The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 165 - Feels Great To Be Back. Kyle “Juice” Juszczyk & Kyle “Legend” Williams Stop By For Fantastic Conversations. Let’s Go.

Episode Date: February 20, 2020

Pat is back from Hawaii and today’s show is a good one. Pat and the boys break down Drew Brees announcing that he’ll be coming back for a 20th season, and what that means for Taysom Hill and Teddy Bridgewater. They also speculate on where some of the other free agent Quarterbacks may end up going this offseason. Also joining the show is 4x Pro Bowler, the first Harvard man to score a touchdown in the Super Bowl, 49ers Fullback Kyle Juszczyk. Pat and Kyle chat about the Super Bowl and what Coach Shanahan’s message was going into the offseason, what it’s like having Jimmy G in the huddle and how he responds to the criticism, how his game differs at FB, what it was like going to Harvard, and they chat about his apparel line Juice 44 (14:46-30:29). Next, 6x Pro Bowler, All-Pro, former Buffalo Bills defensive tackle and friend of the show, Kyle Williams joins Pat and the guys. They talk about whether a guy like Chris Jones is going to resign with the Chiefs, or go and get a massive amount of money elsewhere now that he has a ring. Kyle describes what it was like playing for a Nick Saban coached team and how he has used a lot of those lessons throughout his career and how they’ve impacted who he is as a person, they discuss Joe Burrow talking about his leverage in the NFL Draft, and Kyle and Pat reminisce on the first time they met (32:58-51:57). Also included is Pat’s distaste for arguably the biggest stooge in America right now, Rob Manfred. Pat reacts to the current situation going on in the MLB, and he and the guys figure out a way to fix baseball. Today’s a good one, come laugh with us. Cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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but i was on a goddamn island the same island that had a coronavirus i'll talk about it yeah while i was there i got a heads up that hey you know what no big deal this particular illness okay that has captivated the world like the fucking black plague used to back in the day they built a hospital in 10 days to quarantine the humans that got this virus. The doctor that found the virus, dead. 20-some thousand people, dead. Don't worry, though. We got them all quarantined. Don't even worry about it.

Then I head to Hawaii after a long fall. Head over to Hawaii. I like going to Hawaii. I do. It's a very spiritual place. I kind of unwind. I used to, whenever I vacationed, I used to go to pool bars. I used to get hammered all day,

pass out, go to clubs, 3, 4 a.m., go to bed, wake up, do it all over again for six days. And then afterwards, I'd be able to come back and operate as perfectly fine. But now I'm 32 years old. Got hemorrhoids and stuff. Like when I go on a vacation,

I need to just go ahead and shut her down, pal. Never can. Had to negotiate like 45 deals while I was out there. i got a chance to stare at the pacific ocean which to zito's credit there wasn't salt when you're not when you're staring at the ocean you can't see the salt in the water but when you get in there there is salt in there so had took a cup of that brought it back for zito you know because of the the egregious statement that he said that the pacific ocean had no salt in it while we're in san francisco which was a wild scene but i got away had a great time with my fiancee did the

whole thing excited to be back got a lot of tweets asking me if the show was dead i i appreciate the fact that we're a part of your life i mean nine days can i take off nine days just nine days i just wanted to off nine days? Just nine days. I just want to stare. Ty Schmidt needed some time off too. I mean, maybe Ty could sleep a little bit. We are so sorry we took time off. We're hoping to come back with some great stuff.

Ty Schmidt's back better than ever though. Ty looks rested for the first time, I think, since I've ever met him. Yeah, it's been great. It's been great. I mean, I think we put a show out at least so far this year since football season started every Tuesday, Thursday, Friday, for like, what, 25 weeks in a row or something like that,

all while traveling on six planes. Six planes a week? Yeah. Six planes a week. I am very – I mean, by the way, and that's our business, and we're very lucky to do it, and I'm very thankful that people choose to listen to this. But man, I had some people saying some mean stuff to me

whenever I was out there. Now granted, I did not care. Like I was very comfortable staring at the ocean. You know, there's a line. That's a real thing. Like when you're staring out at the ocean and you just realize how tiny you are in the grand scheme of things,

it's a very humbling relaxing feeling where you because so why like if you open up your google maps and just do one little pinch of your finger it's gone don't even fucking you're just it's a blue dot in the middle of the fucking ocean that's where you're and it's like you know what the people were nice food was good and just so happen to have two people with the coronavirus. And at the same fucking week I was there, I actually thought to myself, this is it. I'm going to die from a virus. It's the modern day black plague in the did, everything it did. But now we're back, and today is a good one. And thankful that you all waited. Thankful that you're choosing to listen. And if you haven't, The Pod, which is another podcast that is being released from our office, just debuted yesterday, formerly of Heartland Radio.

Todd has gone on to do stand-up comedy and also do crime docs podcasts, kind of do his own thing. So we had to rename it because that was kind of his show. So we renamed it The Pod, and our first episode was yesterday, and Gary Brackett was our guest host. I guess he joined. I don't know. Diggs is the host of the thing. Yeah, I mean, don't look at me.

Don't look at Pat. Diggs is the host of that show. Diggs is the host of that show, so it's his thing. But we had a great fucking time, just like we did today, and we're very thankful. We'll continue to hopefully be able to give you another what 40 weeks straight of content we hope to do so and uh we absolutely love you just as much as we love c geek first ever sponsor uh presenting sponsor of this particular podcast and the greatest ticket buying platform on planet earth and

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Is that right? Sooty? Sooty, yeah. It was the sootiest city. It was the sootiest city in the world. So I didn't see a lot of stars. I'd see the moon. Me and the moon had a lot of conversations growing up.

I was like, hey, pal, when you're looking up at the sky trying to figure things out when you're a child just look at the moon it's like so and then you realize as you grow older like no matter where you go that moon's always going to be there like there's one constant it's that damn moon right yep it was kind of like a cool thing but when you get out to like those places that are out in the middle of nowhere like hawaii which is out in the middle of nowhere the stars are phenomenal i mean i think i saw a motherfucking or Orion's belt. Like, I think I saw Orion's belt. I heard about it. I seen it on Men in Black.

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I think the biggest news of today, which all shows led off with, and for us it was only a matter of time before this decision was made. This guy had to make this decision before the offseason started for the New Orleans Saints to make their decision. Because if you know, the New Orleans Saints have a problem that's a good problem to have. A problem that a lot of teams wish they could just have one piece of. to have, a problem that a lot of teams wish they could just have one piece of, but they have three potential viable NFL quarterbacks that they had to make a decision for coming up this offseason. You have potentially the greatest quarterback of all time.

Now, Tom Brady's best football player of all time, GOAT. He's absolutely GOAT. Aaron Rodgers' most talented quarterback of all time. Drew Brees has every single quarterback record that you could possibly have, and he was facing for the first time in a long time, a decision on whether or not he was going to continue to play. He's 41 years old. He told us at the Super Bowl that he had been playing football since the age of 11. 30 years, three quarters of his life, three decades of this organization of your life just being on a schedule. Okay, here's when two a day start. Here's when training camp starts. Here's when this starts. here's when this starts here's when this happens he told us every single decision that he ever made

about his body revolved around being a good person that can throw footballs that's all it is for 30 years of his life so whenever the conversation started about him potentially retiring we assumed it was because the Minneapolis miracle broke his little Texas heart i mean that had to absolutely be a heart that team if people everybody forgets that new orleans saints team that won in there was a hot team now granted the vikings won it at home and the saints didn't have home field advantage obviously like that but they were hot like that was a team that i thought was potentially going to go win that thing and then stefan diggs who we will talk about today, has unfollowed the Minnesota Vikings.

Welcome to 2020. Welcome to Inside Sources. Our Inside Sources, our eyes and scrolls, says Stefan Diggs hates the Minnesota Vikings. Stefan Diggs was trending yesterday because he deleted everything off of his Twitter and his Instagram from the Minnesota Vikings. And on the flip side, Adam Thielen has been tweeting. Kirk Cousins every single day. Good morning.

So Kirk Cousins and Adam Thielen's relationship is growing. Stephon Diggs and the Vikings relationship seems to be disappearing. I don't know if we can dive into all that or whatever. We will. We don't have any inside information. I said when Stephon Diggs threw his helmet in the middle of a playoff game against the Saints while in the lead that that was a little bit of a questionable move. Vikings fans came after after me said I was misjudging him because in the mic'd up thing he told Kirk Cousins don't you have to throw me the ball you don't have to throw me the ball it sounded like he was saying start throwing me the damn ball but anyway so that all happens but in the world that we live in decisions had to be made so Drew Brees said on our show that this was

going to be an entire process to figure this out. And after the Minneapolis miracle broke his heart with Stephon Diggs, and then after the Phantom pass interference call that made the NFL change a rule, which the NFL doesn't normally do, but in another heartbreaking loss in the LA Rams, missed pass interference game to end their season. Then now you've got the Kyle Rudolph thing, which any human outside of New Orleans says is not a a pass interference but if you're in new orleans you

can say hey that that was pass interference i would if i was a fan of the saints and if i was a punter for the saints i'd be like oh kyle rudolph just basically shoved our guy through the ground to catch what was the same thing that kiddo did in the super exactly and they call that so these are three heartbreaking endings two seasons where everybody's like hey this saints team is going to make a run this saints team is going to make a run and Drew Brees self-admittedly only knows ball like absolutely no varsity blues I feel like is Drew Brees like Drew Brees is a Texas high school football quarterback that's what Drew Brees is loves football so for 30 years he's had this and at the end of his like his run here there's been three really good chances to win Super Bowl. You've kind of in his eyes. You could say like

We kind of got screwed here and then he's not voted on the NFL's top 100 team Which by the way, I wasn't voted on either. I I'm very upset about it. I don't know that you might have it by the way I was asked to be on the show I never responded to the email if I responded that email in my on the team I have no idea by the way if i'm on the team and drew breeze is on the team anyways drew breeze just yesterday decided he will be coming back for his 20th season i'm very happy for drew breeze i mean i am absolutely pumped for drew breeze he did it in a fashion that by the way my my comment is but he did it in a fashion

that he might have been in hawaii i have idea. It looks like some maybe Central America, maybe somewhere along those lines. Yeah, something along those lines. He's standing atop a mountain that looks very high, dangerously high. And he says, my feelings about the 2020 season. I look forward to the grind and the journey for the reward at the end will be worth it with three exclamation points love you who dat nation let's make another run at it so him and his wife i saw them posting photos went on a vacation with somebody else somewhere obviously they do vacations a little bit differently

than me they're hiking this mountain i i am uh i am just inhaling every vitamin on the island i am doing everything that i can but he goes on vacation, and I bet you he had conversations late night with either his wife or his friends or his family, and they go, we can do one more year. I mean, we could do one more year, because that's a family decision, by the way. He said he wanted to see his kids more, he wanted to see his wife more, he wanted to do this type of thing. It's a family decision. He ultimately

makes a decision that he wants to come back and play football. Good for the NFL, good for the New Orleans Saints. Terrible for old Taysom Hill who was potentially going to be a franchise quarterback is what Sean Payton said remember Sean Payton last year before they had to actually you know when push came to shove and put Teddy Bridgewater and he said he viewed him as Steve I think Steve Young he viewed him as a Steve Young as the heir apparent then Drew Brees gets hurt they put uh Teddy Bridgewater and everybody's like well if you thought this guy

was your Steve Young why won't you put him in then Teddy Bridgewater in. Everybody's like, well, if you thought this guy was your Steve Young, why wouldn't you put him in? Then Teddy Bridgewater goes undefeated. So now Teddy Bridgewater is a free agent. Taysom Hill is a restricted free agent. Drew Brees, hi, I'm coming back. Pay me $25 or $30 million, whatever we've already decided you're going to pay me. Taysom Hill, who said that he wants to be a franchise quarterback and all this stuff,

as soon as he learns of Drew Brees coming back, he says this. He says that, at the end of the day, I look at Drew coming back, and maybe I'm not playing quarterback, which is ultimately where I want to have an opportunity to play in the NFL. Just a few weeks ago, by the way, Taysom Hill was saying he was going to be a quarterback somewhere, and everybody who's ever seen him throw a football in the NFL was like, yep, that probably makes sense. Like, this is probably a guy you would want to be a quarterback.

He said, I want to have an opportunity. There are still going to be opportunities for me to make plays. I can tell you a unique experience for me that most backup quarterbacks don't get is I'm in the huddle with Drew on game day. That, to me, is invaluable. So, obviously, Taysom Hill is excited Drew is back. Cameron Jordan is excited he's back. But now we know Teddy Bridgewater is definitely out of New Orleans. Taysom Hill is now the backup quarterback there.

Teddy Bridgewater alongside Tom Brady, alongside potentially Cam Newton, alongside Phillip Rivers. I mean, this just goes on and on about there is an incredible amount of great quarterbacks that are currently on the market. And I think the NFL and Commissioner Roger Goodell, who, by the way, looks like a Nobel Peace Prize winner compared to Rob Manfred. Right. This guy, it's not it's night and day. It looks like a varsity commissioner versus a freshman class president and Rob Manfred. And by the way, I don't think Goodell makes all the right decisions,

but if you look at it as commissioners, like Silver is the guy. Everybody loves him because he hasn't had to piss off an entire fan base yet with a decision, which is ultimately going to happen. But I think the way he handles things is very well. Goodell, by the way, has to handle terrible things, sometimes does dumb things. But at the end of the day, it's the highest grossing company. He does very well this manfred guy is just an absolute absolute he's an ass clown that's he's the

when he's speaking when he's speaking to the he look he's talking down he just doesn't look like somebody that should be even giving a presentation in front of a class let alone a guy that should be a commissioner of a dying sport we'll talk about that in a little bit, but this is good for the NFL. That Teddy Bridgewater, who was recently undefeated, is out there. Tom Brady is saying, hey, I'll beat with any team you want. Just fly to my house here in LA. Okay? Not a big deal.

Chargers, you're already here. We can chat. I heard you guys are potentially. By the way, I think GM of the Chargers is on our show next week. Oh, let's go. I think Tom Telesco, who was originally with the Colts, is coming back for the combine. I think we're going to have a pretty good guest list next week here at the combine. It's a plan. But he's coming on.

I'm not going to say I'm going to ask him if he's going to sign Tom Brady because I don't want that to leak to him and him cancel on us. But I'm going to ask that question. And these are things that are going to have to happen. Guy joining us didn't get a chance to win a piece of metal, but he was up for it. Fullback for the san francisco 49ers a man who was a four-time pro bowler a harvard guy handsome as hell had no idea you

were that attractive kyle youscheck how's it going what's going on man how you doing i was just i was just steamrolling that manfred guy the mlb commissioner have you kept up with any of this and how terrible it is you know what i haven't uh I've never been a big baseball guy, so I'm not really even sure what's going on. Oh, me neither. The only time I pay attention is when they do something dumb. Love the steroid arrow whenever the big buffoons were hitting balls all over the place, and then that obviously came crashing down. And then now they got buzzers and signs telling them. Anyways, it's a nightmare situation let's pivot against that um kyle what are you doing this off season you're a harvard grad i assume you're just starting a

bunch of companies investing in money and all that stuff yeah a few startups uh you know been on wall street all week no i uh you know what my wife and i've uh got a new house out in new york so we've been moving out here and uh just kind of getting settled in are you from new y York is that why you moved back there no I'm not her family is oh you're a gentleman that's very nice yeah hell of a season for you this year uh thank you the 49ers at the beginning the defense was the big thing and then obviously the offense came into play I think that New Orleans Saints game was the coming out party after the Baltimore Ravens loss. If you had to look back on the season, what was your overall takeaway from it? And how did Shanahan address it the day after the Super Bowl loss in the wrap up meetings?

Man, looking back, I think you can't not think it was a great season. I mean, we came we were a four and 12 team last year. And to go 13 and three win the NFC Championship and unfortunately lose it and unfortunately lose it in the last six minutes there in the Super Bowl, definitely puts a huge damper on it. But Kyle did a good job in addressing the team a few days after when we had our exit interviews and really made me feel a lot better, put a lot of things to rest. And he just kind of went around the room. He had some of the veterans speak about what was different about this team than teams they've been a part of before. And the common theme was just that, man, the camaraderie in this group was just different. There just never seemed to be a task that was too tall for us. We always had each other's back. We genuinely enjoyed working with one another every single day. And everything

that we did that year, like there was a huge accomplishment. So that made me feel a lot better. You know, after that tough loss. It's the x factor that doesn't get talked about enough. I've been a part of a team that was very, very good. And they 100% revolved around the type of guys that they bring into the locker room right Bill Polian Peyton and them they had their set crew it was Peyton it was Saturday it was Gary Brackett it was Reggie Wayne it was these guys Dallas Clark uh Joseph Adai you

name it it was that crew and then you bring people into the culture right and they're like we gotta then I was on a team where they were just looking at who was the fastest who's the strongest who is this and you miss out on that camaraderie level that really takes your team to the next level and i don't think it ever gets talked about enough honestly no i i totally agree with you i i don't and it's it's hard because how do you calculate that you know it's easy to look at somebody's 40 time okay he's better than the other guy because he's faster well i mean there's no there's no way to the calculator put into numbers what kind of camaraderie what kind of um attitude you bring to a locker room you know people you know when we traded for Emmanuel Sanders, for example, people very easily could have said, oh, this guy's 32 years old.

You know, he hasn't had like a great year in Denver. What is this guy going to add to, you know, an offense that needs some good receivers? But, man, he brought more than just the talent that he brings. He's a tremendous talent. He's our man to man beater. He's our go to guy when it comes to those kind of things but the camaraderie and like the attitude and the leadership that he brought to the locker room i don't think you could ever calculate that or people truly understand uh what he did for our team and for our offense and for that wide

receiver room so i feel like he's a great example of um you know it's not always about the numbers you see on the sheet, but there's a lot more intangibles that come into play. Let's talk about some of those numbers that did show up on the sheet. You guys rushed for 186 yards before contact, before contact in the NFC Championship game against the Green Bay Packers. Was that a game, at what point as a full back for a team that's doing that do you go man we can do whatever the hell we want today is that like mid first quarter is that first play when do you guys start realizing like hey jimmy we

appreciate how handsome you are we appreciate all the routes that you could throw but we are just going to run this down their throats. And as a fullback, that has to feel damn good. Yeah, oh my gosh. I think there was a drive where we had eight plays, and all eight of them were run plays, and we finished in the end zone. So once you do that, you really do have that mentality. You're all looking at each other like we can do whatever we want.

And I think that's the competitor in you, and I think that's what really um I don't know that's what motivated our offense like once we start running the ball on people you just get this confidence about you this this energy and and it's it's from top out to the bottom like our wide receivers are feeling it they get a good block their chest bumping each other after the play and I feel like that's really what drove our offense this year is running the ball getting that confidence and that feeling that man we can really do whatever we want i feel like you're not that large of a guy is it leverage what is it is it everything no you're absolutely right i really i'm not i'm not your stereotypical fullback. I don't weigh 260 pounds. I played this season really at 230 pounds, and it really is. It's leverage.

It's using speed. It's angles. Using a defender's rules against them. I know when an inside linebacker, whether he has to have inside or outside leverage, and I can use that to my advantage. If I know he needs outside leverage, well, why don't I just keep taking a little bit wider, a little bit wider. He's got to match me because he has a rule.

He has a job to do, and that's to keep that outside leverage. So let's make that even wider, and that just makes the hole bigger for the back behind me. That's a big brain of yours. Do you love or hate the fact that any time anybody talks about you, they go, this guy went to Harvard. Do you enjoy that or hate that? It's definitely a double-edged sword. There hasn't been a day that I've been in the NFL that it hasn't come up. Like I said, it's double-edged. It can be used for me. It can be used against me. So if I'm going to speak up in a meeting room,

I better have the right answer. Otherwise, it's going to be used against me. Yeah. By the way, if you were ever around us and there was a question asked and you answered, you'd be like, all right, well, that guy went to Harvard. There's a lot of pressure. What was it like to go to harvard and play football was it uh was it as like similar to other people's experiences i would assume was very

different than mine i was drunk six days a week and i would assume you were not yeah it's tough to say because i didn't get to experience you know those those big schools but from what i've heard uh there actually are a lot more similarities than you might think. Harvard does like to party. We like to let loose on the weekends and enjoy ourselves. There's a lot of tension during the week, a lot of stress that needs to be blown off. So we have fun.

But honestly, it was different in that we're at the highest level of academics and we're a division one football program so it's not like we spent any less time doing football than the ohio states the georgias the uscs any of that the time was still there so you had to still be able to find time for academics for a social life um which was honestly the toughest part. And the biggest tool I learned from going there was time management. What did you major in? Economics.

What are we going to do? Are you going to do Wall Street? Is that what you're going to do? Are you going to be a Fortune 500? No. Yeah, honestly, I have zero interest in economics whatsoever. Post-football, I'll probably get involved in real estate because it's something i already do now but um i don't know how much that economics degree is really gonna come into play your harvard degree

would do hey kyle your your harvard degree would do just fine i think uh super bowl ring would help too but i think you guys are setting yourselves up to do that is the core of your team coming back next year and how do you feel about going into next year with the Niners yeah it sure seems like it that was another one of the uh the main themes of Kyle's um exit interview or exit speech to us and him and John Lynch was that he wants to keep this group together obviously we know in the NFL it's pretty much impossible to keep this group together. Obviously, we know in the NFL it's pretty much impossible to keep everyone, but they definitely want that core because we feel like we have the recipe for success. We have a dominant defensive front that makes it tough for any offense to score a lot of points.

And then we feel like we have an offense that can really – we can give it to you however you want. We've won games throwing the ball.'ve won run one games just running the ball and then i know you'll appreciate this we feel like we have a phenomenal special teams i mean uh our rookie punter was phenomenal this year and you know robbie has a long career of you know um great kicking stats so we feel good about that but no i think we really feel good about the crew that we've put together and what we have going forward and i think really john and kyle just going to add to it in the draft and free agency and i don't see why we can't be an even better

team we're a nationally syndicated uh sports talk show so we had to talk about the potential of tom brady becoming a niner and jim Jimmy G being traded to the Patriots. That was quickly snuffed out as completely false. We had to talk about it. It was something. Yeah, I don't see that happening. No, but can you tell us about Jimmy G as a quarterback, whether it's in the huddle or the locker room,

or what is he like, you know? Because he seemed like this guy who's just like Tom, like very calm very calm very cool and if he hits that one deep ball to emmanuel by the way we have all forgotten about the deep ball he hit the george kittle that got screwed over in the first half but he hit if he hits that one deep ball to emmanuel sanders in the second half of the super fourth quarter super bowl it's a completely different conversation happening about jimmy g right now than it is everywhere else but what is j Jimmy G like as a quarterback, as a leader, as your guy? Yeah, completely different. Like you said, he's probably leaving there as the Super Bowl MVP,

Super Bowl champs. He's the next Tom Brady. It's going to change that narrative completely. But that's football. I mean, it really does come down to a couple plays, and we're judged by those plays and critical moments. But the great thing about Jimmy is that I know all the criticism that he's getting right now. It really doesn't affect him.

If anything, it just motivates him. He does such a phenomenal job of just blocking out that noise and really just keeping it to what matters to us, to what his teammates think of him, what his coaches think of him, and just how he's able to run this offense. Jimmy has just been, since the first day he got there, there's something about him that just commands respect. He has this aura to him, just the way he carries himself. He's just a guy that really puts in the work and someone that we all follow Really just because of the way he leads

By example So Jimmy really doesn't have anything to prove To anyone in our facility I know people outside of it still You know question things about him But we have 100% Commitment and belief in Jimmy Most handsome guy you've ever seen?

Definitely Top three Whoa in belief in jimmy most handsome guy you've ever seen i definitely top top three oh does he know that you don't does he know you think he's just top three i'd hope he'd still take that as a compliment uh what is the off-season workout for you what is an off-season workout for you do you do you take a couple months do you take like a month off here let the body recover, and then get back into it? Or do you kind of have to do your thing? Yeah, you know what?

This is a new experience for me. I haven't played into February before. So I'm kind of taking it as we're going. Right now, for the month of February, I'm just – I'm actually – I'm outside my gym right now. As soon as we're done talking, I'm going to go in there. I'm just doing like two or three weeks, two or three days a week right now. Nothing too intense, just still trying to keep the body moving. Um, I can't just sit on the couch for too long. I really just start

to feel terrible about myself. So I like to keep it moving. But, uh, beginning of March is when we'll really start to ramp it back up again. I'll start going on three and four days a week and really start throwing the weight on starts, you know know my sprints and all that kind of stuff hey well kyle i appreciate the hell out of you man you're a great player dude you're a lot of fun to watch thanks man you're not really a fullback but you're like a running back that they put at fullback so i respect the fact that you're keeping the fullback name alive and that you're an absolute stud and you're willing to put your nose out there but your athleticism you've really transcended the position of fullback i think thanks man yeah i really appreciate that uh again the the fullback term is kind of it kind of gets used as a double

edged sword for me as well yeah you know if i don't run a good route oh he's just a fullback but if i have a crushing block oh he's a fullback you know hey it's not a bad thing to use a difficult term yeah it's not a bad who do you run with do you run with the uh speed group or do you run with like linebackers mix it up uh mix it up usually i would say most of the time with the linebackers and tight ends smart i used to run with the offensive lineman there you go ladies and gentlemen four-time pro bowler fullback absolute stud and a man who uh graduated from harvard kyle you check thank you man thanks for having me guys appreciate it hey you gotta come back you're really cool yeah absolutely i'd love to that 100% juice? Is that a company you own or no?

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Are you in a doctor's office? What are you doing? No, this is the house I built. Thanks for judging me. You're a jerk. Well, I'm happy we can get a piece inside of your home. I figured the last time we were together, I was like in the wild blue yonder. So it's kind of like, where's Waldo? We talked to Kyle where he may be, where he may not be.

So I'm kind of playing a game with you. Yeah, you were in a couple haulers down yonder there the last time we talked. I think you were out there killing some birds. Great place to be. Yeah, it is. I can't thank you enough for joining us. I love our conversations every single time. Man, I'm so glad to be here because every time I turn on the TV,

you're jumping in a lake. You're running over here. You're putting a mascot head on a seal next at fail, talking to coaches. You know, you keep getting me on the show. I'm going to have to ask for a piece of the next nest egg. You got,

Hey, that could be something we could potentially do. Work out, work out a little deal. I'm all about your deal. Okay. Let's talk about deals that uh d lineman is up right chris jones who everybody says is the second best d tackle

in the nfl behind aaron donald who's the guy everybody knows that he likes his pizza without sauce which is very interesting i tried it it's actually not that bad character flaw anyways aaron donald i would never say anything bad about him because he's an animal. He's great at football. But Chris Jones is the number two guy, right? He's up right now. If you look at D tackles or defensive linemen who could potentially go get paid

somewhere else, like Indomitian Sioux took $100 million from the Dolphins, very much understood they were never going to win a game with that. Do you think Chris Jones does something like that? Do you think he does a team-friendly deal to stick around? Because they've got to pay Patrick Mahomes. They've got a lot of people there. What do you think chris jones does something like that do you think he does a team friendly deal to stick around because they got to pay patrick mahomes they got a lot of people there what do you think happens with chris jones you know i don't know i mean it's hard to say what his decision will be without really knowing the guy yeah um but great player you you hit that on the head you know i i would i would probably put those two the same exact way that you did. Now, one thing to keep in mind, he just won his Super Bowl, right?

So he's got the ring. So what do people want? They've already got the ring. They don't have the bag. What do they want? They're going to get that bag. I mean, the guy's a great player. Somebody's going to pay him.

He deserves it. You know, and I'm sure that just judging by how he plays, his teammates matter to him. His team matters to him. So there'll be some heart involved there. But at the end of the day, you got to strike while the iron's hot in this league because it's not always running hot for you. Yeah, I think he's got to go take the bag wherever it is. He said on numerous occasions that he loves being a chief. He loves his teammates, which, by the way, I respect and appreciate. You want a guy that obviously loves and appreciates your teammates but if you're a d tackle and somebody's going to give you bank you have to go get that right am i i am 100 do you agree yeah you better gobble that up because you go first play of

preseason it could be a game it could be a practice a it could be a practice, a 320-pound offensive lineman falls on your leg, you know, maybe that burst isn't quite what it used to be. Maybe, you know, there's a lot of factors in. There's a lot of bodies flying around down in there. There's a lot of people that get hurt in there. There's a lot of different things that can happen. But that's really not just defensive tackles. That's everybody in the league.

You have to strike while the iron's hot. How do you feel about team-friendly deals and the league how do you know how do you you have to strike wild irons hot how do you feel about team friendly deals and the thought that you know what tom brady did it for like 10 years but he was getting front end signing bonuses and other things like that but he was still taking team friendly deals for a long time anytime somebody's contract is up now anytime and if you look at the history of success for quarterbacks the usually now aside from tom brady who has debunked almost every single theory a lot of these younger quarterbacks the usually now aside from Tom Brady who has debunked almost every single theory a lot of these younger quarterbacks on smaller contracts seem to be the teams that keep it moving now how do you feel about players potentially taking team-friendly deals or do you think everybody should get it while they can depends on where they are in their career if you got a guy

like Tom Brady who's been around and and he sees an opportunity to have a championship football team where he's been most of his career, by all means stay. Or you get an older player that says, hey, you know what, is it really worth it for me to leave a place that I've been for a long time, that my family knows, to move across the country for an extra million or two? So I don't know. There's different scenarios. But when you're young, so i don't know there's different scenarios but when you're young when you don't have the long-term security that maybe an older player has i think number one you need to take care of your family and yourself and have an opportunity to to do something generational for i guess your people i i'm so torn on it too because generational wealth is a whole different ball game as opposed to just you know accruing because generational wealth is a whole different ballgame as opposed

to just accruing $20 million, which is a lot of money, but a lot of guys have to stretch that $20 million like 60 years now, which, by the way, still good living. By the way, not saying that that is bad at all. If you're talking about the course of a career making $50 plus million, you're talking about quite a lick and something that no matter what your heart feels, there's also common sense of like, hey, this needs to happen. I need to get this done. Okay, you're down in Louisiana.

Drew Brees just announced yesterday that he is coming back for the 20th season. How do you feel about Drew Brees coming back? I'm happy for him. Do you think that affects a lot of things in his free agent quarterback market? How do you see it all turning out? Well, that's the first domino to fall right so in which i think you could have seen that coming you know drew still playing at a really high level you know he he'll get an opportunity this year to throw for 200 bazillion yards whatever i think you know whatever it is yeah he's just going to keep adding on to that. But obviously for the Saints, great player,

really great for the community down here because I'm so close I get to see it. So that's just the first domino that falls. I mean, I can't remember, I don't think there's ever been a year like what we're looking at coming up here in the next month. You know, potentially, you know, probably the greatest of all time, he may go to a new team. Phillip Rivers, you know, Hall of Fame type quarterback, he's leaving. Drew decided to stay. There's so much going on that

I tell you, the league's got to be smiling ear to ear right now, sitting up in the ivory tower in New York like, man, we can do whatever we want right now because everybody's paying attention to this. Going to dominate the headlines for the next two months. everybody's paying attention to this gonna dominate the headlines for the next two months gonna absolutely sure every shirt let alone now lsu guy joe burrow he's starting to creep in the headlines now training with carson palmer's brother jordan right he just had this fantastic run with joe brady who's now at the carolina panthers heisman winner national champion ohio kid and everybody's talking now the conversations are

swinging towards if Cincinnati was to give up that pick or if Joe Burrow was to say excuse me I don't want to play here I want to go somewhere else a la Eli Manning or John Elway did in the past it wouldn't be unprecedented we're in a very different time in the NFL that these conversations are all very real and very possible I think sure you know I think uh there's so much choice out there at this point you know between you know contracts and quarterbacks going here and there and do I want to get drafted by this team that team you're a little known fact I did that I turned down the first overall pick because I wanted to play in Buffalo so you know I had an opportunity to talk with Mario Williams. I said, listen, I'll barter the first overall pick for being the first overall

pick of the fifth round. I don't know. I'm probably, honestly, the wrong guy to ask about it because I still believe that guys in the NFL, you have an opportunity to make a king's ransom play in a kid's game. It's a privilege to play. Now, listen, I also understand there's business aspects of all of it. But if you had gone back three years ago and asked Burrow or myself or whoever,

hey, we're going to draft you first overall. You know, who do you want it to be? I don't care. You know, I don't care. A hundred percent. But I do understand there's a business part of it and you know it'll be interesting to see how his side of things handle it how uh how all the quarterback things fall does that affect anything you know i just don't know i think that's what's

great about it you never see this many marquee guys at the marquee position potentially playing musical chairs the the thought though that that Joe Burrow is playing, Joe Burrow is playing into this, too, by the way. In his answer, I forget what it was, in the Fort Worth Telegram or something like that. Fort Worth Star Telegram. Fort Worth Star Telegram. What's its name?

I think. That's a bad name. Maybe that's why the newspaper business is dying. That's a bad name. It's a mouthful. It is. Anyways, in the Fort Worth Star Telegram, if that's the name of it, Joe Burrow said that he has leverage.

He said, I have leverage right now. This is a guy who, now granted, I'm a Joe Burrow fan. His Heisman Trophy speech was absolutely incredible. I think you could see that he was a real guy. But this is a guy who's never played in the NFL telling 32 teams in the NFL, like, I have leverage right now. He very much understands where he's at now you got to his family coming out and saying we don't want to go to Detroit like hey there's no way we want to go to Detroit we see what's happening with Matt Patricia he's probably getting fired after this year we don't want our

kid in that situation and we'd rather live in Miami now that's not the exact quote but that's basically like the gist of everything they said We are in an insane time for professional athletics, Kyle. Well, I think, too, so you're looking at that, and it's this big, big, I have leverage, or it's the illusion that you have choice. And I'm with you. Joe Burrow probably had the greatest season a quarterback's ever had. But at the end of the day, a team can always play the trump card

and go, hey, we're going to draft you and we're going to hold your rights. So I'm always of the motto of less is more. Like, hey, I'm going to show up and play and I'm going to give my best effort. And then, hey, if we need to talk about something behind closed doors, you know, we can talk about it there. But like you said, it's definitely an interesting scenario for all involved and more than anything for all the NFL fans this year because it's going to be for no lack of fireworks this offseason.

Thirteen years with the Bills, is that right? We're trying to do the math on Wikipedia. Thirteen years? Well, I have 13 fingers and toes being fromisiana so it's easy for me to count by the way love the louisiana people they could put on quite a spotlight with the national championship run what a crew of humans you guys got down there oh yeah big time everything's a party my friend that's real that baton rouge that baton rouge song afterwards, whenever it was in the— Calling Baton Rouge.

Yeah, Baton Rouge, the whole place, and then the dancing, and then the cigars in the lock. I mean, it was just an awesome— Louisiana got put in a great spotlight whenever LSU won the national championship. Yeah, absolutely. You know, and I tell everybody there's no greater place to play college football and be a part of that. I mean, it really is.

It's so much fun just to be in the atmosphere and feel the energy and just really year-round what people get fired up about here. We're inventing holidays so we can have a party and enjoy life. Okay, well, let me get back to what I was asking. Another group of humans that loved to party, Bill's Mafia. You were there for 13 years. You got 13 fingers. The thought of you only played one playoff game in those 13 years.

If you were to one playoff game and obviously it didn't end up well, but you got a chance to at least taste the dance a little bit. Joe Thomas, whenever we talked to him, he was arguably one of the best offensive linemen to ever play the game. Zero playoff games, like not even a thought of a playoff game. I think he protected maybe 700 different quarterbacks. If you could go back, what would you tell your younger self about the run you're about to have in Buffalo? And I would

assume you wouldn't change any of it, just like Joe Thomas said he wouldn't change anything in Cleveland. Yeah, I wouldn't change any of it. And honestly, I think my mindset is what pushed me through what ended up being some lean years. And what I mean by that is I'm here to work. I'm here to be the best that I can be for my team. I think if you spend so much time around team sports, and I had great coaches growing up. I played for Nick Saban and Les Miles in college. So I think a lot of the kind of the coach speak about team and about us eventually sinks in and becomes a part of you through osmosis when you hear it enough.

So for me, it really, like the place that drafted me, the guys that were there, the people, the community, it really meant a lot to me to be there. So I think my mindset, I wouldn't have changed anything about my mindset of just doing the best I can today and worry about tomorrow when it gets here. And the only easy day was yesterday. Obviously, I would have loved to have them pick the greatest quarterback ever before I got there and fallen into that, but that just wasn't the card I was dealt.

But I gave my teammates and that place and and all the coaches that i ever had there all that i could possibly give them oh what a human man what an absolute beast they should have given you the ball more at fullback yeah i think so i agree i agree hey listen when that happened i mean some some are saying greatest touchdown run in history and it fell. All I can end up telling you, one for one, baby. I touched it, handed it to me, touchdown. You show me another percentage like that, then we can argue.

Until then, it's a moot point. I'm the man. Hey, those are Hall of Fame stats. I'm just saying. I'm just saying. I'll take a gold jacket as a fullback. I didn't know you played for Nick Saban down there at LSU. That was before he went to the Dolphins?

Yeah, right before he went to the Dolphins. Had three years with him. He recruited me. I played three years down there, and then my last year was with Les. What's he like? He's such a mysterious figure to me because every time I watch him in these things, like him in that Belichick thing I watch, he showed a little personality.

But in the press conferences, you see nothing. I assume he's like a terror to work play for. I might be completely wrong, though. It seems like he's like a good dude. He's tough now. I mean, he demands a lot out of you. And when you don't give it to him every second of every day, he's going to call you out. He's a great football coach.

And one thing that I appreciated about him is he was intense and he was the same in february on a wednesday as he was on friday in october and you know and you know as well as i do you can live under those circumstances in a competitive environment and on a team is consistency i could i hated riding the roller coaster with anybody. Up one day, down the next. You never knew what expectations were from one day to the next. He was very, very clear. Great football coach.

Probably while I was in the middle of it, much like everybody else that was there, they were like, this is every day and it's relentless. But as I got into the NFL and now that I've moved on, I've got a whole lot more of that in me than I do a lackadaisical, just kind of happy-go-lucky attitude. So he instilled a lot in me that I carried with me all the way through my career and still carry with me today. Rich Rodriguez was the same way. I mean, he was a lunatic, a maniac of a man.

By lunatic, I mean like super intense human being and there was a lot of conversations that me and my teammates had but we're like this is terrible we're all are we all done with this are we like in the middle of like a very good run like very good teams we're like this is this is a nightmare like we're waking up at 4 a.m for this call or tour of duty off-season workout and everybody's like looking at each other like why are we doing like this is and then it was every single day but then now that i'm getting older like i look back and i'm like i needed like i needed that has helped me so much as i get older and it's one of those things where you don't appreciate what you have until you're out outside of it well i tell

everybody you know when i went to school we had freshman camp uh so when you got to college i think we were actually i had the pleasure of being the last freshman camp ever which is total hey but you know you went in and you had full-fledged practices with 25 guys i can remember running down on kickoff coverage turn around grabbing a bag and doing a kick return you know, in a freshman camp in Baton Rouge, Louisiana in August and getting full body cramps during the day, taking IV bags. They're like, hey, you need to get off the table after your sixth bag of IV flu. We got practice this afternoon, going back and laying in a dorm room that I'm pretty sure had asbestos while we were in there sleeping, you

know, and you're sweating. It's 87 degrees in the room because it's 107 outside you've got a circulating fan rolling around and you're laying there and you're staring at the ceiling and go this is what you wanted to do this is what you wanted you chose to do this this is what you picked and you're laying there at night and you're staring at the ceiling you're like you start breathing deep and then all of a sudden you're staring at the ceiling, you're like, oh, you start breathing deep, and then all of a sudden you're like. Hey, by the way, that 87 degrees in an air-conditioned dorm room is what made you survive having one playoff game in 13 years, Kyle. That's what it was. Yeah, that's true.

And I totally agree with that. I'll be the first one to tell you that so much was built into me, you know, really in high school because we had great coaches here at my high school. And then as I got in there, it just really kind of doubled down on all of that and really built who I am. Well, Kyle, we appreciate the hell out of you, man, every time you come on. You're awesome, dude. I am so glad to be here with you.

Let me know when you're ready for me to hit another golf ball over your head. I completely forgot about that. Kyle Williams. How could you forget about me? I'm never coming on this show. I completely forgot about that. Kyle Williams. How could you forget about? I'm never coming on this show. No, no, no. Literally. Like, literally our bonding moment, and you don't even remember it?

I feel so cheap. I mean, we had a good time. The guy you call and talk to. Kyle, we had a good time. Our group had a lot better time than you were having, I think, at that golf outing. I agree. I agree.

You guys lived it to the fullest down there. Kyle Williams, by the way, incredible defensive lineman, incredible speaker, great opinionator of the football world. He's a house builder, I guess. He builds a house. Scratch golfer. Not just a joke scratch golfer. Scratch golfer.

Soft hand. Soft chip this thing over my head. I was standing five feet in front of him he told me right before he swings he's like last time i did this i hit the guy right in the mouth and he chipped it right over my head it was amazing why why why did you change your voice just now because you're from louisiana that's what i got bat and rouge wow yeah that's all next time i see you i'm punching you in the kitchen. Ladies and gentlemen, Kyle Williams. Appreciate you, man.

Hey, I'll see you. Good to see you, pal. He's the best. Hey, very good golfer. He had the best score on the last day of that tournament in the Bahamas. It was against Steph Curry's dad. I think it was one under. Yeah, he shot one under.

But you didn't see that on television. No, no. CBS showed none of that by the way if we ever got the rights to that golf tournament it'd be great entertainment thank you kyle uh he's the best yeah absolute best can't believe i forgot about him flopping a golf ball over my head from like five feet away very impressive you see like phil mickelson do it on see like Phil Mickelson do it on the internet. You see other people do it on the internet. We'll,

we'll post it today. Kyle, check out the Twitter at Pat McAfee show at the pod PMI at Ty Schmidt at Nick Moraldo at tone digs at Viva Lizito at Boston Connor at Nick Moraldo. I think that's it. Nailed it. Yep. We'll post the video.

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which, by the way, I mean, a lot of movement, a lot of activity, a lot of athletes, but that's a boring sport to watch as well. So that's how much Tim hated baseball. So growing up, I wasn't around baseball much. I don't know the inner workings of baseball. I don't know like the, the cool things, like the, the inside baseball stuff. I don't know what those are like the banging of the drums, the stuff like that, where people are the banging of the trash cans, which was originally completely acceptable, by by the way like the little intricacies of baseball that separated from other sports that make it the true pastime of america i don't know those things because i didn't grow up and i could just tell you what i grew up in pittsburgh the pittsburgh pirates stink every other sport was really good the pittsburgh pirates stunk they for 20 years they didn't have a winning season so i

hated the sport then i played professionally uh one night for the Washington Wild Things, runner-up in the Frontier League last year, no big deal. And I had a whole new respect for it, right? I had a whole new respect for baseball. I enjoyed playing it and everything like that. But still, as a spectator of the sport, can't stand it. I don't know how people watch MLB games. I have no idea how you do it.

The only reason that I found is to go to a baseball game is in Pittsburgh when you go to PNC Park and you just go just get hammered in the parking lot. You're just going to get hammered in the parking lot and then you're strolling into the stadium and then you're like, oh, watching another team win that isn't the Pirates. You're hopefully taking a fishing net in there, catching a baseball. You're yelling at the little ball boy working on a third baseline if he gets a foul ball to throw you a ball.

Like there's everything but baseball going on. Then we went to the Yankees game for the playoffs it was awesome to watch it was very cool i mean it was a cool environment but overall in my eyes baseball is still very very difficult to watch it's a difficult sport to watch i like the playoffs other than that i think the sport stinks i i think it's just there's a lot of things they could do differently i think the season's too long blah blah blah you name it but now that i know who the commissioner is i have never felt more right about something in my life. The fact that the sport of baseball

picked this Manfred guy to be their head guy is the most damning thing that could happen to a sport that has a lot of damning things. I mean, they have 25 people watching their games in a lot of cities, and the guy that they chose to run it is an uttering buffoon in this Rob Manfred guy. This Manfred guy, whenever he speaks to the public

he called his own trophy the commissioner's trophy a piece of metal he basically diminished every single thing that has ever happened in baseball all the while not being able to make contact with the people he's talking to people don't like roger goodell right for obvious reasons because the nfl has passionate fans loyal fans it's the best league in the world so whenever you're the commissioner you're gonna have to make hard decisions he's made some bad ones I think I think he's made some bad decisions but every decision he makes is in the middle of a fishbowl it is going to be magnified to the tenth this Manfred guy I didn't even know existed that's how irrelevant baseball is I didn't even know this guy existed until this week and he's 0 for 10 in

one week in my eyes and he still has a job He's still going to be the face of baseball. And this guy is the worst commissioner of anything. I've seen fantasy football leagues commissioned better than this Manfred guy who called his own World Series trophy a piece of metal this week. He's the one who gave immunity to these people that all these other players are like, no, you don't give immunity to what they're doing. He's just a complete scumbag, it feels like, and just get another black eye on baseball is the person that you've chosen to lead it

is the dumbest human on earth. Ty, you're a baseball purist. You love the baseball. I assume that this has been a bad week for the state of baseball, especially letting the world find out who the hell Rob Manfred is. Yeah, at first it was kind of awesome because like you mentioned, baseball doesn't get talked about at this point. You know, it's like, okay, it's back in the news.

More people are talking about it. But then as this has dragged on and the Astros have looked worse and worse, and then you couple it with the biggest buffoon in the United States, Rob Manfred. So a little interesting tidbit. He was the general counsel for the MLB, and he investigated the Biogenesis scandal. Oh, great. We love general counsel. So he's familiar with that.

He said when he became commissioner, his primary goals were youth outreach. Hasn't done that. I mean, like the average age of the viewer for baseball is probably like 65 years old. Maybe 70. Embracing technology. Well, congrats, you buffoon.

You know, we went a little bit too far with that. Quickening the pace of play. That hasn't happened. Slowed down somehow. And strengthening player relations, which he basically just nuked, you know, this entire week. I've never seen an entire league of players come out and say, hey, our commissioner's an idiot. I know. The entire league.

Now, when we first had Tucker Barnhart on, immediately upon, by the way, gold glove winner, friend of the show. I don't hate baseball players, just the sport of stuff to watch tucker barnard came on and was like you know it wasn't technically against the rules for the garbage can banging he is a catcher like almost felt as if it was the catcher's faults for not listening to that and catching on but then the more and more he wrote on he's like oh this is disgusting like this is not something like every baseball player has been like this is not some you don't earn this is not earning a championship is what everybody said. The one, Giancarlo Stanton or whatever said, I would hit 80 home runs if I knew what was coming.

He would have. And people have told me that are in baseball where they're like, Pat, you, if you knew what was coming, you'd be able to hit home runs. I was like, I stepped in a plate against a guy I knew was throwing a fastball and I could barely get it out of the infield. So I don't know if that's accurate. But they say that the information the Astros were getting was like the most deceiving thing potentially in the history of the sport like

that's how disgusting it was in the GM or the commissioner of the league was like all right you guys tell us what you did no punishment at all and they're like uh well that's what we did we had buzzers on our chest we were uh we had a robot breaking down the algorithm uh we basically knew what everybody was gonna do he's like that's, that's it? Yeah. Okay, good. We'll just bury this. Hope nobody ever finds out about it. And now everybody's finding out about it. He's like, well, I'm an idiot. Yeah, that's basically what's happening. And I know some people were saying the players were being dramatic in terms of this altering guys' careers, but it's true. A pitcher comes up and gets absolutely shelled by these guys are cheating, goes back down to the minors. Guess what?

Never comes up again. There's a very, very simple solution to fix the MLB. What is it? Very simple. A, don't punish the guys who are taking steroids for an entire season. A guy on the Astros just got pinched again. He's out 162 games. They've basically already said, hey, this cheating stuff, much worse than steroids. So why is there no punishment for this?

And then guys who – because steroids doesn't guarantee that you're going to go out and hit 80 home runs. I mean, if it's a competitive advantage, give that competitive advantage to everyone. Let everyone do it if they want to. Two, let people rip videos online. That is why I hate them, I think, because I am an internet human. Yeah, the MLB is like the Gestapo when it comes to trying to put anything about your league out there. The good news for them, though,

is there's really nothing we'd want to put out there. Exactly. I mean, sometimes there'll be big bombs, cool fights, that kind of stuff. There was one time there was a bird flying around the stadium. He wrecked into the thing. That was funny. And then they have the Falcon during the national anthem. Yeah, lands on the person's arm.

Third thing, let the pitchers nail these guys from the Astros. Absolutely. This is baseball, right? This is like the intricacies of baseball. Like, hey, you do our guy wrong, we're going to do you wrong. Exactly. Especially Bregman said on a podcast that one of his favorite parts about baseball is that when guys do something wrong, that they get hit.

Like, it's an unwritten rule. So let pitchers nail these guys, hit them in the – I mean, obviously not try to hurt them or anything like that, but these guys deserve – they deserve their comeuppance. And then lastly, cut 40 to 45 games off the season so that we're not starting when snow is on the ground in March and it's cold as hell in October. You're playing in the summer months.

You're done by the time the NFL rolls back around, and maybe more people will watch baseball. Hear, hear, Ty Schmidt. How do I do it, Ty? Ty, you'd be a better commissioner than that idiot I've seen on the internet the last couple of days. By the way, I haven't seen him on TV. I've only seen him on the internet, which is weird because the MLB hates him.

Sorry for interrupting this fabulous conversation. I mean, we were really talking good. Huh? Oh, yeah. Hey, I was proud of what we were talking. Yeah, great stuff. I mean, you're not going to hear that anywhere else. I was like, you know what? Those guys right there, the way they're talking talking good. Huh? Oh, yeah. Hey, I was proud of what we were talking. Yeah, great stuff. I mean, you're not going to hear that anywhere else. I was like, you know what?

Those guys right there, the way they're talking, good. You know? I hear you. Really good. People are even saying about the conversation that they just listened to, they're like, hey, happy that one of those guys didn't die from coronavirus in Hawaii. Absolutely. And I'm thankful for those people that are saying that because I think that guy that

you're saying that about is thinking the same thing. I'll take all the Coronas. Hold the virus. Hold the virus. With the ever increasing number of makes of cars, you know? Mm-hmm. Yeah. Fiat.

Sure. Kia. Yeah. Hyundai. Yep. Honda. Mm-hmm. Jeep.

Yeah. GM. Yeah. Yukon. No, I missed it. Chevrolet. Chevy. Ford.

Yeah. Cadillac. The list goes on and on. Yeah. No, I missed it. Chevrolet. Chevy. Ford. Yeah. Cadillac. The list goes on and on. Genesis. Eagle. Lincoln. Saturn. Ferrari.

Tesla. Lamborghini. Audi. Volvo. Beamer. Mercedes. Did you already use that? No. but i was just in germany though that's like in my head i couldn't maserati go to italy ferrari lambo anyways there is a never-ending number of car makes these days and models now let's go pacifica civic

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