The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 169 - Joe Burrow….’s QB Coach, Jordan Palmer & Comedy Legend Frank Caliendo Join Us For A FEEL GOOD FRIDAY

Episode Date: February 28, 2020

On today’s show, Pat and the boys are joined by seven year NFL veteran and now Quarterbacking Guru for QB Summit in which he gets college players ready for the NFL Draft, and aids in current NFL quarterback’s progression in the league, Jordan Palmer in studio. He chats about his process with Joe Burrow this year, and how they build a plan of attack in order to get him ready for his rookie season in the NFL, and not on being drafted by a specific team. He gives his idea for a new combine drill that will help dispel the small hands narrative, and talks about some of the other QB prospects in this year’s draft who he’s coached or watched film of (4:59-24:14). Next, all-time legend of a comedian, the best impressionist to ever walk this earth, friend of the show, Frank Caliendo joins Jordan Palmer on the couch. Pat and Frank have a heartfelt conversation on Frank coming along with his social media game to reintroduce himself to fans, Frank shares a hilarious story about performing at a corporate event for Tony Robbins, and of course Frank crushes impression after impression (26:30-01:11:43). Also included is Pat reacting to more from the CBA negotiations that now has some very elite players publicly voicing why they voted no, and a lot of the middling players on the roster voting yes, and where that leaves us now moving forward. Today’s show is a good time. Come and laugh with us, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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me i didn't want them to waste it the first time coming in because i knew we were doing it again smart uh jordan where are you from, first of all? Where do you live right now? I live in Southern California, South Orange County, Dana Point, little beach community. Kind of grew up there. Went and played college football, bounced around from team to team, stole money from owners while they hired me to be the fifth quarterback. Hey, respect. And learned a bunch of stuff along the way and settled back home in my hometown.

Okay, so is that where you run this quarterback guru, quarterback magician, quarterback coach camp you got going on? Quarterback summit. Yeah, what is it? What exactly is it? So really what happened is I had been around quarterback development my whole life. Like when I was in high school, my high school coach prepped guys for the draft. So I was catching balls in high school. I was skipping photo in sixth period and catching balls from Joey Harrington whenton and he was getting ready for the draft so i've literally been around it

got a lion's fan big lion's fan jordan what happened he was in high school i was so good at catching the ball he was he got he got to the league he had charles rogers and he goes man this isn't gonna work so uh so i've been around qb development forever elite 11 if you're not familiar with elite 11 it's been around 23 years It's the top high school quarterbacks in the country. You say, well, what does that have to do anything? Well, it's like 90% of the quarterbacks in the league went through it. Okay. I'm the only guy that's been to every single one. I've been going since seventh grade. I've been running it with a couple other guys and coaching. And so I was a college counselor for it when Stafford and Tebow were the high school kids in it, let alone when these guys now are going through it.

Trevor Lawrence and Justin Fields was the MVP of it. So it's pretty relevant. I've been around quarterback development forever. That's like a fraternity, by the way. There's a lot of guys doing these college football games on Thursday night. There's a couple guys that were in that Elite 11 or whatever. And when they would see each other before the game, they would full embrace. It's where they become friends.

So they meet there or they meet at QB Summit. So I run camps, middle school and high school kids, but I have college guys as my counselors. So for example, I heard about this thing in Wyoming, Josh Allen. And so invite him to a summit. We hit it off. He judges me. I judge him.

We end up, we're still working together. Throw tomorrow. You judge him as a quarterback he judges you as a human as a coach and then so when it comes draft training time and the same thing with joe burrow he wanted to try me out spend spend a weekend together i'm evaluating him he was kind of completely under the radar when i met him in june um and i went on a couple things in media and said i think this kid has a chance to win a national championship a heisman would be the number one pick okay so by so, by the way, love that.

Can't wait. You should get one of these for what you just did. I want the hammer of Thor under your desk. By the way, that'll come out with a couple of these phone calls, potentially. That's for me to hit myself in the head. Joe Burrow, when he goes down to LSU, his junior year, 16 touchdowns or something like that. Senior year, 35.

And you started working with him the summer before that senior year? 35. 40. 60. And you started working with him the summer before that senior year? 35. 40. 60. That's on me. That's on you. I'm not college football analyst. If you were off by two,

I would have let it slide. You were off by half. Yeah, 50%. That's not good. Can't be off by 50%. What are these guys, a stat guy? No. No.

Look at the group. No, no, no. This guy had the wrong date on the piece of paper. We're lucky to even get on air. But you started working with him before his senior year there. What was the biggest jump you found for Joe Burrow from that junior year to that senior year to get him going? Well, it was the writing on the wall really more.

So LSU in 2018, I'm pretty sure of this stat. I wouldn't leave it to this group to correct me if I'm wrong. I think they led the NCAA in drops. Okay, so there's like okay there's a piece of story can you confirm it's not like joe learned how to throw in july you know what i mean yeah and so um led the ncaa and drop so whatever the changes they made in the off season and the work they put in and got sweaty and got extra catches and all the stuff right um and then they add in joe brady who's didn't run some crazy NFL system. They just added another level of answers, really.

You play with Peyton. It's all about creating answers for yourself. And so you also look around, and there's some horses in that huddle. He's sitting here going, listen, nobody knows about this guy Jefferson. Nobody knows about this Chase dude. Where do you see this running back, man? This guy got Randy's kid at tight end. You start seeing the pieces come together.

And LSU's always got dudes. They just haven't had a quarterback since I came out. Well, that's just like Alabama, right? Whenever Tua got there, it was a whole different animal. Whenever Tua got there. Now Joe and Tua are being talked about right now as, you know, the top two guys in the entire league. Do you guys worry about anything with Tua,

or are you just focused 100% on getting Joe as good as he possibly can? Big misconception. So two years ago, I trained Sam Darnold and Josh Allen and Kyle Allen. That was my draft class. And I know Baker went to Cleveland, but that didn't happen until a day or two before. It was always who's going to be won, Josh or Sam, at least in the general public and our thinking for sure.

And it can't be a competition. This is a team picking a player. Now, you can compete in throwing. I can try and throw it better than you, or I can try and learn more than you, or I can try and be cooler than you if I'm competing, but to try and get drafted higher than someone is kind of a fool's errand.

Is that why Joe said that he didn't want to presume that he's the number one overall pick, even though everybody else is? Joe Burrow is at the point where he's like, I'm just trying to be the best quarterback I can i have no idea if i'm gonna be the number one pick or not or is that a conversation that you guys have to have where it's like hey you're probably going to be the number one pick but we can't assume anything because moves could be made is that something you have to well either way what i do is i don't prepare guys for the combine i get

guys ready for their rookie year so the thing that if i look back at the guys that i've worked with there's a bunch of guys that i've worked with where had i never met them, they would be in the exact same spot they're in, right? It's not like I'm sitting here, like I worked with Deshaun Watson for a long time. It's not like- Hey, he's really good at football. Yeah. Had we never met, he'd be in the exact same position, right? And so this isn't, you know what I mean? I'm not a guru or any of those things. I'm just kind of the older vet helping guide these guys. You know, I think if you interviewed a bunch of NFL quarterbacks, right, and you said, who'd you learn the most ball from,

and they were being honest, they'd probably name a vet before they'd name a coach. I've asked guys, and they all do. My brother would say John Kitna. I'd say my brother or Mark Brunel when I was in Washington. The guy behind you, Aaron, would, if he's being honest, probably say Brett. Yeah, he actually did say that to us. Right?

And so that's pretty common. And maybe it's the same thing with you. Yeah. I learned everything from Vinatieri. There you go. You don't have three punters on the team, but you know what I mean? But another guy who's older and goes,

hey, listen, this is how you ought to think about this. Well, for him, for kicking and punting, it's all mental. So getting a chance to be with the greatest mental Olympian, basically, in the history of anything, it was a massive part of it. Yeah. So you're like the OG in the room.

You just teach them whatever. Joe said, now, everybody knows that not everybody works out the combine. Patrick Mahomes did work out the combine because he came out of nowhere. Russell Wilson worked out of the combine.

There is elites that have worked out the combine, but now as of late, it's not really something a lot of the high profile guys do. Joe said he wasn't able to be prepared for the, he didn't have enough time or he had a shorter off season. Part of it is why and part of it is he's literally a month behind.

The first time we threw together was in Miami at the Super Bowl. So, because he had, there's a parade and there's stuff and there's me saying, dude, your pro day is April. Like, enjoy this for a minute now. Go see your family. You haven't seen them in a while? You're not going to see them for a while. Just won a national championship.

That does not happen. Let's not go do power cleans tomorrow morning. Go have a beer. You know what I mean? No, but so for Joe, it was that. It was a lot of that stuff. So I wanted two full months. Great.

So we put a schedule together and he's been throwing for three weeks. So why jump out there and throw right now? He's going to throw a pro day and everyone's going to be there and it'll be great. So we put a schedule together and he's been throwing for three weeks. So why jump out there and throw right now? He's going to throw it pro day and anybody, everyone's going to be there and it'll be great. I thought he was taking a shot at your coaching, by the way. No, that was it. You just, yeah, I didn't, didn't feel prepared because I didn't teach him how to throw spiral. Cause he only had 35 touchdowns through eight games. I will let you know at one point yeah he had 35 touches totally just that's where i was true yeah you're talking about week nine yeah i was watching highlights yeah yeah

that's where i was um his workout his pro day for joe burrow a guy that by all accounts is going to be the number one pick people are are wondering if teams are going to hemorrhage picks to get to the number one pick to potentially get joe burrow right conversation happened with the panthers because the joe brady tie in there's other teams where people are like they go get joe burrow the picks to get to the number one pick to potentially get Joe Burrow, right? Conversation happened with the Panthers because of Joe Brady tie-in. There's other teams where people are like, they can go get Joe Burrow. The Redskins, I guess, are potentially getting into the running for another young quarterback. That's what was being reported this morning.

I don't think anybody from the Redskins said that, but there's a lot of conversation about Joe Burrow's definitely going one. The workout that he'll do at LSU, what will that be? Is it just like the same thing that we've seen from other players? We're going to do something we've never been done before. We're basically going to get everybody lined up, and we're going to say, everybody go deep on hike. It's going to be sick.

About 40 of them. All right, so we're going to do 30 Hail Marys. Hail Marys. This guy's the best Hail Mary thrower. Wait until you see LSU run this hook and ladder on air. It's perfect. No, but what is the purpose of that? Just for teams to see him?

Well, what I want teams to do, Joe's a little different because he is the purpose of that just for teams to see them like well what i want teams to do joe's a little different because he's the is the presumed number one pick so sam darnold josh allen deshaun watson these guys were like we're not really sure where this guy's gonna go there's multiple teams that could take this guy what i want to show or and what any guy wants to show and i don't i think this is probably what every guy who's helping guys for the draft does is i want teams to be able to say, I could see that guy running my system. So at LSU, from week four on, they basically only had five-man protections.

And he had a million answers, and it worked, right? Very well. Defenses, the coordinators get paid to watch tape too, and so they dialed stuff up against five-man protections, and they just had answers. They wanted five guys out on the route, and it worked. And so six-man protection, protection seven man heavy play action the you know Peyton whipping sunglasses off his head on waggle five getting his eyes back side like of course that stuff um

they didn't do that at LSU so that's a big thing waggle five waggle five yeah well who are you there's six kids listening right now who totally got this. Go back to class, boys. So that's the stuff they didn't run. Certainly doesn't mean he can't. Pat Mahomes looks great doing things he'd never done until he got to Kansas City. And so part of it is if we're going to throw a bang eight or a skinny post, we're not going to take three steps from gun.

He did that a ton on tape. We're going to get underneath center and we're going to go ride 435 bob pass, flip our hips, and get our eyes downfield. So we're just going to show the growth in terms of the footwork and getting lined up. But again, I'm not getting him ready for his pro day. I'm getting him ready for his rookie year. These are things he has to do to play well. And the thing that I'm proud of looking back on the guys that I worked with,

what I was saying earlier is, had these guys never met me, they would have been in the exact same spot. But what I want to do, but when I look back on it, all my guys have had really good first years. Whether that's Deshaun, lit the league on fire until they got hurt, or Jarrett Stidham, who backed up Brady but had statistically the best preseason in football last year. Whatever that means. People are still talking about his preseason to say, well, if Tom leaves, they do have Stidham on the roster. If they can figure it out. It's like, well, preseason is a very different animal, but it is a step above. It's a step above.

And the interesting thing is you guys talk about Brady too is, and I have zero inside information. No one does at that place. But New England's one of the few franchises that does not have to sell their decision at quarterback to their fan base. Yeah. They do not have to justify their decision. No. Anything Belichick does. So anything's on the justify their decision. No, anything Belichick does. So anything's on the table with them.

Even riding with a fourth round pick. Well, legit, because they've already done it with a... Were they going to not sell tickets because we want Brady back? No, I think they're going to trust Bill. Well, whenever Bill cuts anybody too, it's always like, yep, he knows what he's doing. Totally. Got rid of Josh Gordon. That guy's probably terrible.

He knows what he's doing. Yep, no big deal at all. You talked about Joe getting under center in his workout, and I don't know if you know Herbert or not, but he's never taken a snap from under center. Does that mean anything to you? Do you think that's a huge stepping stone going into the NFL? I think anything.

It's about repetition, right? Whether that's punting, quarterback, fatherhood, marriage. It's a repetition thing. I'm just a big believer in repetition. And so he just has to make, those guys that haven't been under center just need to make up the ground on those repetitions. They need to fall.

They need to step in the bucket and move behind their guard and then fix it. You know what I mean? They just have to get enough reps at it. You're saying it's like you're the big believer in the 10,000 hour rule or whatever it is. Yeah'm give or take i i don't count count the hours but i agree but that's the thing is talent but i'm not going to sit here and go justin herbert's got a really strong arm he'll be fine under center that's not why he'll be fine under center the

solve is is repetition and that's again we got he's he's with the guy john back and tom house who do an amazing job at developing quarterbacks John and I came out the same year oh that's your competition there's too many quarterbacks and too few great people who know what they're talking about it's not

that's why I'm dapping them up right now so you're saying they know what they're talking about they know what they're talking about so Herbert will be fine he'll be ready to go there's a kid

that's being talked about love he threw 17 interceptions in college in one year yeah against college defenses in the mountain west yeah i heard that stat this morning and i was like well that guy is probably going to be playing in the arena league if i had to guess is that an a fair accusation by me if you're a quarterback in college you throw 17 interceptions you probably either miss

or you make a very aggressive decisions and in a mountain west conference is a little bit different than what an nfl defense is going to be yeah is that something you can fix yeah absolutely so i've spent a lot of time with with jordan this offseason um oh okay so he's one of your guys uh spent a lot of time with him yeah 17 inter 17 interceptions? No, totally. And so part of this is you have to look at the why, right? So for anything, you want to get to the bottom of something, get to the root of the issue. And this is stuff that he's not going to say to teams,

but this isn't me saying here's what he told me. This is me looking at the situation, talking to teammates, and understanding what happened at Utah State. And I think what happens is it happened the same thing at Wyoming for Josh Allen a lot of these mid mid school I was at UTEP you know what I mean yeah so I was always top in the country in touchdowns top in the country in picks but the reason for it and with Jordan Love's particular is you got a first round talent quarterback not a single draftable person on that offense playing against a bunch of other guys where some you know weren't you guys gonna get drafted maybe they played against um and so a lot of times what happens is is if one's open

throw it to him if he's not make a play son i'm not saying that's what his coach said but that's the situation you get put in and so it's not i've seen every pick i've seen every play that he had this year um a lot of it is he's forcing it and he's trying to make a play yeah they're at lsu they're down 28 and he's thrown to a guy this is his only offer like so what's he should just take sacks and so that is a habit you can get out of patrick mahomes forced a ton of balls at texas tech yeah because they were lost games when they scored 46. Nobody on his defense tackled in college. So quarterbacks, I say this, quarterbacks get really good at things that they have to do to survive. I think great quarterbacks are survivalists.

By the way, completely changed everything. Because he's potentially, his name has been linked to the Colts a lot, right? Because we're potentially in the market for a quarterback. Nobody knows what Ballard or Ursae or anything. Jordan Love's a top 10 pick. In your eyes. In my eyes. You've worked with a lot of quarterbacks.

He's a top 10 pick in this class. He's a top 10 pick. All right, we got to get to a break. Hey, will you stick around until the end of the hour? Let's do it. I appreciate you, man. I just learned a lot.

Tiny little hands on Joe Burrow. Tiny hands. Are you going to train him for that? Like we stretch out the hands, man? I actually have a thing. I guess it didn't work. Diggs has a big question for quarterback guru Jordan Ballmer. So Lamar Jackson came out and said that he had a hard time

transitioning from the college ball to the NFL ball. Does that happen to a lot of college kids or is that abnormal? No, it's pretty normal. So once you go to the Duke, to the NFL ball, like when I do kids camps, I can't throw a high school ball. Hey, me neither. I can't throw these balls when I'm here. I look like an amateur.

I go to demonstrate, and I'm like, I'm setting a bad example. I'm like, well, I paid to come see this guy throw. Look at that duck. So it's hard to go back. But guys often have a difficult time transitioning. So Nike makes two kinds of balls. They make a large girth and a small girth. So what I tell guys to do is switch to large girth towards the end.

That's what Joe did because it's closer. Adidas Under Armour, there's different balls out there. But none of them are exactly like the NFL ball. And so, yeah, it's a little bit of a transition for guys. Some guys do change their grip a little bit. I had a vet this offseason change his grip a little bit, even though he's a vet. And so it takes a second to get used to,

but once guys do, they kind of never go back. So Joe played with a large girth ball this year? Yeah. So his... Insert joke there. His nine-inch hands. What I'm talking about is nine-inch hands. Is this such a joke? is this such a joke is this

such a joke whenever it comes to the actual quarterback started when i was playing is when this started to become a thing i was hearing guys talk about hand size and um there's no way to tell the problem is it's like anything like what do you want a guy to have giant hands and play quarterback sure but as soon as you have guys with nine inch hands like patrick mahomes and jared goff he's got millions of dollars and played a super bowl and been to pro bowls then it's just As soon as you have guys with nine-inch hands like Patrick Mahomes and Jared Goff, who's got millions of dollars and played in the Super Bowl and been to Pro Bowls, then it just kind of bucks the belief. You know what I mean?

Once it's happened once, it can happen again. I thoroughly believe. There's also a long list of guys with 10-and-a-half-inch hands who never did anything in the league, right? And so what I've been trying to do is dispel this. So every quarterback that's been on the field with me, I have this thing you squeeze in. It tells you the pounds per pressure. And I just have a little spreadsheet.

And I'm not sharing it with anybody. But it is pretty interesting. I'm starting to kind of sort the nine-inch guys who have strong hands and going, well, this guy goes to the Pro Bowl over here. And then guys who have big hands and they're not strong. It's like, hmm. That's going to be the new thing. I don't know.

I've just always. You have to combine them and start doing the pressure. I've been paying attention to it. You have to combine there and start doing the pressure. I've just been paying attention to it. You're such a creative human, by the way, after talking to you even more. Not only run P, but then the rubber. Is this public? Yeah, we started Kalo about seven years ago. Silicon wedding rings.

We sold the business to a private equity firm this year. No big deal. And I've been entrepreneurial and like starting stuff. It came out of necessity because I was always like good enough to be in the league but not really good enough to make the team at the end of camp and i kept getting cut got a little bit of money years zero starts like i don't know if it'll happen again it wasn't good enough to get in there but i was like cool enough to have around which by the way is what you're doing right now for every player coming into the NFL

and some players still in the NFL. Josh Allen made a massive jump from year one to year two. I think all of Bill's mafia is excited to see what you do with him this offseason and get him to the next level. Sam Darnold, how's he get mono? Nobody knows. We got to get to a break.

That's tough. How does he get mono? No comment. Yeah, I don't know. But it was a great rep at him having to deal with a really adverse situation, and he finished the year really strong. By the way, mental toughness, real thing that a quarterback needs to have.

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I will. Ladies and gentlemen frank caliendo yeah yeah yeah yeah you know you're right you're right jordan stay seated jeez frank i see you have the easies on you're all dressed up the last time you came in here at basketball had basketball shorts on, no underwear. How do you know? Well, I saw it. Yeah, I'm glad for you.

You didn't bring that up too much while I was on. Yeah, my son actually is dressing me now. Here's the thing. This is the deal. My son said, he goes, when's the next time? He didn't know I was coming out here. He's like, when's the next time you're going on the Pat McAfee show? I go, wait a second. Do you listen?

He goes, oh, all the time. I was like, really? Tell me more about this. Because he's like, yeah, I'm getting into podcasts now. And he's the best one. And I was like, OK, OK, OK. My guy. So it's starting to, like, I'm starting to listen to my son.

He's giving me some social media advice. Some of it seems good. Some of it seems a little off. But he's like, he's selling shoes now. He's a little off. Sneakerhead. He he's selling shoes now he's a little sneakerhead 15 year old kid in school sometimes he pays attention to the school stuff but he's in calculus as a 15 year old he's he's okay but yeah so he's buying and selling shoes and he's talking about you and talking about uh he's a he loves the nba and everything that goes on with that he used to be an nfl guy but now he's totally into this. But I made a realization,

and you'll find this too. Have you been on here before? No. It's my first time. Yeah, use the microphone. So, no. Such a jerk. It's been 30 years.

I've only been here for six minutes. Yeah, he's quick. He's good. But, and every time people say the tiny hand Joe Brown, I don't mean to be political. I'm not political at all, but I do impressions of people who have tunnel trials. I just think, tiny hand, big brain Joe Burrow.

The only cop for him is Joe Montana. That's how good he is. He's incredible. He's as big as a large state in our union. So I went to different places. Last time I was here, I went to- Am I the most basic human, by the way? If you do an impression, I went to different places. Last time I was here, I went to... Am I the most basic human, by the way? If you do an impression, I'm laughing.

It's just, I think I might be one of the most basic humans of all time. I will watch all of his videos he puts out and laugh every single time. I feel like it is one of the... It's like having a puppet. It's kind of like having a puppet. It's very similar right brain, left brain to a ventriloquist. So, you talk to the puppet. If I go into a voice, it's almost like like having a puppet. It's very similar right brain, left brain to a ventriloquist. So you talk to the puppet. If I go into a voice, it's almost like talking to the dummy.

You watch Jeff Dunham in Peanut. You watch Walter. What the hell? That kind of thing. So I do impressions of ventriloquist dummies. There's levels here. I'll tell you what, man. I've been sitting on your uh your lap for a little

while time to break free man hey coach gruden yeah man uh jordan palmer probably knows a little bit about derrick car you guys going forward with him or what's the listen man i got a lot of different ideas we're not actively trying to move derrick car but i'll tell you what man there's a lot of good guys out there. I'm not saying we would ever. I love Derek Carr, man. You've got to love a quarterback who only puts sleeves on once every two weeks. This kind of guy.

I went to see Aerosmith with Gruden. Did you see that? Oh, yeah. Legendary. I mentioned this on my podcast. I haven't really brought it out nationally yet, but here's the shirt that john gruden bought me so gruden gruden leaves to go to uh he's like i gotta go to the bathroom man i'll be right back are you and him boys uh i think i've even said this to him i go i feel like sometimes it's keep your friends close keep

your enemies closer yeah okay he's like no we love you here man and i didn't have him define who we was because that's one of those things where he's like we love you man i'm like all right let's just keep it i think i told you about this before he he texted me at three in the morning one time which i think is lunchtime for him i was like uh i just got done shooting a commercial where i did an impersonation of you and i didn't i think it's the one where he's talking to the tire and my only guess because i'm scared of him my only guess is that they said he was doing he's like okay man you're gonna be good right they're like no no do it more like Caliendo. He's like, oh, dude, you're going to get out there and you're going to drive down this man. I tell you what,

man. Is that good, Caliendo? Oh, I got a thing I'm going to put up in a little bit, too. So when we go to Aerosmith, Gruden and I Can't Lift My Leg. What is Aerosmith? What is Aerosmith? Dream On. Sweet Emotion. That's interesting. No, no, I know

the song. Walk this way. Talk this way. Oh, Stephen Tyler. Yeah. No, no. I know the song. Walk this way. Talk this way. Oh, Steven Tyler. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, got it. He's a pretty lady, man. He does appear. Just comma for a second.

You just did an impersonation of a guy doing an impersonation of you doing a guy. Those are the dots, right? You're a dude playing a dude disguised as another dude. Continue. Okay, now I'm going to do Robert Downey Jr. bringing it back. Do me a favor. Enjoy me.

You're doing great. You and your brother, you guys stand across from each other and put a hammock across, frankly down on it, okay? By the way, I was with Carson on a plane, and you two, and I'm 5'6

And I'm lying a little bit with that You're 5'4? No I'm 5'6 I'm not Kevin Hart size If I were Kevin Hart size That'd be awesome 5'7 with Yeezys Listen it hurts but it's truthful

I don't mind Yeah there's a reality But tremendously large hands See he's going back and forth Doesn't matter I'll tell you what man Yeah, there's a reality. But tremendously large hands. See, he's going back and forth. Doesn't matter. I'll tell you what, man. We wouldn't have Caliendo play quarterback.

He wouldn't even be waterboy on our team, man. How many voices do you have in your head at any given time? Six. No, I mean, I just go in and out of them. I think it's more, it's fun. It's what I was getting away from. And you were one of the people who said, don't do that. Don't do that. Just keep what I was getting away from. And you were one of the people who said, don't do that. Don't do that. Just keep doing your, be part of you.

And I'm like, comedians are, for the most part, and I've never wanted to be this, but I wanted to be something other than what I am. And I think there's always a piece of that in all of us. I don't know if when you were in the NFL, did you just want to be an NFL player? It seems like there was a lot more. Yep. Do you want to be a holder? Nope.

Grass is always greener though. That's everybody's mindset. Comedians a lot of times want to be rock stars. Rock stars want to be comedians. There's lots of jokes about that kind of stuff. But for me, I was trying to get away from the voices. But as I started doing more podcasting and being able to talk as myself

and work the impressions in and go in and out, that became more of going, okay, so this is my thing and I can own this and go with it. So to go back a little bit- Mad Fientist Best in the world edit, by the way. Jay Haynes Top five. Jay Haynes Top five. So last time I was here, I was in Cleveland, all right?

So I go to Cleveland and Pat had told me too, I was going, I was in Cleveland, all right? So I go to Cleveland. And Pat had told me, too. I was going back and forth to Cleveland because my wife was there. Oh, okay. So Pat, the last time I was in, I was in a bad way. I mean, I just wasn't happy. And Pat sensed it. And Pat knew it.

And I didn't know this until after the show. He's like, first time you're on, I don't know. I didn't love you as a person. I liked you as a comedian. I thought you were a i don't know i didn't love you as a person i liked you as a comedian thought you're a good comedian but i didn't love you as a person and my world went down like i was like what did i do and i realized i go into a lot of rooms and i act like a real jerk i'd like to be funny but it's especially and you're from pittsburgh right oh yeah there's something in that region where you go into a room where there's somebody

who's not who's who you don't know and you start acting like you know them and they go, well, I don't know. I don't know anything about you. You don't know me, man. You are speaking out of pocket right now. Yes. Take a step back. And I found that it's happened to me a few times. And you were the one that clicked with me.

And I go, wait a second. I am that jerk that walks into a room and does a lot of the stuff so that beside the point we had a great talk and great talk yeah and i i was scared i was only rivaled by gruden scariness like because you have an intensity that happens that shows in super positive guy which is what's part of the infectiousness is this positiveness that you convey that not everybody has that some people can be really negative and win like that you win by this having this just you go for it everything's go for it i was the pessimist kind of person and i see that in my son i'm trying to fix that in him too now trying to do but i went to uh i

went back to cleveland i rented a car i go to rent the car the guy at the rental place heard john mcafee okay then i then i'm at the airport actually the airport first i heard john mcafee i go to the car rental place the kids there he's like oh yeah yeah i can't live without pat and i'm going wait a second i'm glad i fixed this with this guy because and not just in terms of people because I just, I would hate to go somewhere and somebody go, he's a jerk. Caliendo's a jerk. And I found out that there are some places I've gone.

No, yeah, no, it's fine. Other than here. Let me tell you, this is what happened. You walked in to, the first time I talked to you, I think you were talking as Gruden. Yeah. And you talked to me as if I was a punter, right? Which, by the way, anybody who's played in the NFL

could talk to me as a punter being an unathletic human because they're in the NFL. You were a human, 5'4", self-admitted, talking to me as if I was some slappy. On stilts. I was like, man, I'm a massive fan of this guy. Massive fan. Been a huge fan of yours for a long time.

And you were just talking down to me like I was a child. And I was like, all right. I am a fan of yours, but I'm obviously not going to be a friend of yours. Then you came back in, and I was like, I told you about it. And I was like, hey, I just need to let you know because I'm such a big fan. I thought you were like a very terrible person whenever you talked to me. So deflated. You should have seen.

He wanted to stop because he was starting to look like I was a sad puppy. And he wanted to get away because he wanted to buy me. He was like, oh, I can't do this. I can't afford this right now. He had a great family in mind for you. Oh, yeah. Absolutely. Sent him over to the pub.

I heard something. My driver on the way over here goes, is this the Pat McAfee? I go, yeah. He goes, oh, that guy's a control freak. I go, what are you talking about? He goes, well, I'm a driver. And he got in one time and told me if this was true.

He goes, he wanted to drive my car. He drove my car. Yeah, that happened. Lawrence, he's outside. He's the man. Yeah, that happened. By the way, the guy, he was driving so slow. He drove my Suburban like it was a Porsche.

He was driving so slow. He was driving so slow, I had to get to, I think it was the airport. I had to get to an airport. And the way he was driving, I was like, man like man i'm never gonna make it if this guy's doing this so i i started a conversation with him i was like what's my angle to get in the driver's seat here yeah and i literally started a conversation with him and i was like anybody ever asked you to drive this thing and he was like no i was like can i drive this thing and he was like i don't think i'm allowed to do that he was like uh oh yeah you can man just hop over there

we'll drive together or whatever he's like all right gets out think I'm allowed to do that. He was like, oh, yeah, you can, man. Just hop over there. We'll drive together or whatever. He's like, all right. Gets out. Lets me drive. Bang. We got to the airport. He's the man. He's hanging out outside.

He told him 10 minutes. 40 minutes later. He's going to be so mad at me. This guy. First he takes my car. Then he takes the person I'm driving. He's going to think of you the first time what you thought of him. I know.

Terrible guy. By the way, I don't know if there's any other driver that would ever let me do that. Florence is the man. I miss that guy i tell that story still you do all the time i'm like i've driven somebody else's car before in an uber i'm a driver i'm kind of drove myself uh but no yeah i love florence and by the way i'm happy he feels that way about me that i'm a control freak because in my eyes i, I'm like, that guy's a legend. Just let me just take his car. Didn't even check if I had a license or anything. Could have been any part of it. He was down and he was in. I'm a big fan of his.

But Frank, since that moment, you've gone all in on the internet? Yeah, he has. And man, you are slaughtering on the internet. My favorite follower right now. Really? I appreciate it. I've been working very hard. There's certain things I still can't get over. Some of the hang-ups i have in terms of like things that work people on the internet then just keep putting more of them out like i'll put i put out that morgan

freeman breaking down grandma sandy uh who's like ah mentos and she puts with some coca-cola it blew up and that's when Grandma Sandy knew what it was like to work in the adult film industry. And it blew up pretty well and Rex Chapman saw it and he's like, oh, this is great. I was like, charge.

And it might have been you, like a bunch of people. I think it was when I came out with Summer All Madden breaking Down the Pat Mahomes play. You messaged me like, this is it. This is what you do. And so I found that I have kind of a sick Twitter feed. So I've been trying to figure it out.

I had Twitter. I have 350,000 followers. I had 350,000 followers seven to 10 years ago. And then I stopped really doing it. I wasn't on it. And in that time, it became pretty dormant. I was also following 18,000 people. Wild move.

Which had happened over the years. Follow back, you said. I would do follow backs. And I would just follow people. And I wasn't... It was really that follow back kind of thing people and I wasn't I don't you know it was really that follow back kind of thing

it was like I'll follow you follow me just trying to get some type of engagement because I didn't understand really how to engage people in a different way

I'm starting to figure it out now and it's actually fun and you get to know your Twitter followers oh yeah you become a family totally totally different

than anything I'd expected to happen but the other day I looked at my Twitter feed. I go, I'm getting killed on algorithms here because I will go out and I will have a video start out and in the first two or three minutes,

it'll have 6,000 views. Good. Maybe. But then it'll end at 12,000. And I go, something's happening here and I don't understand it. Yeah, but what you need to know is you can't control that.

Didn't you say your son does calculus? Don't have better lines than the legendary impressionist. No, he's trying to help me too, but he's actually been giving me theories on stuff. But I went, I said 18,000 followers of which I can't see any of them. I don't know what's happening

on my Twitter feed. I went by hand and deleted 17,000 people over the last three, I started out like this. I'm going to follow people, keep following people that I see are active

on my Twitter feed. That happened for about 100 people. And I was like, I can't, I just can't pay attention. So I just started taking just about everybody off. Gotta do it. I looked at yours. You're around 2,500 people following you. I wish I was less, by the way. It takes a long time

to get out of there. Yeah. And I was worried about people getting mad at me. I did something else that I probably I'm not going to mention here. I'll tell you after, but it allowed people to talk to me more. You opened up your DMs? There you go. That's the thing I didn't want to say.

Are they currently still open? Thanks for getting me back for two times ago. Are they still open? They're still open. Oh, bad decision. Worst decision to tell you. Right now, send Frank a DM and let him know he should shut his DMs. Stat.

Yeah. No, see, I'm trying to. But a lot of people are coming to me saying, why didn't you follow me? I go, they say they're a huge fan. I go, I just looked at your timeline. Anybody who said that to me would say they're a huge fan. I go, I just looked at your timeline. You haven't retweeted anything or liked anything of mine.

He's not on Team Frank. In two weeks. I go, you do that. You've got a chance I'll follow you back. But you're just saying that because you got a chance i'll follow you back but if you you're just saying that because you want the blue check mark follow back and i don't have a problem following some people and i don't have a problem that people only like the blue check mark yeah that's what you are no i don't care i'll be a stat i don't i don't mind not everybody has huge hands

but it was one of those things where i uh i just i knew i had to do it i knew i had to clear that out i couldn't see anybody and people would say oh it's just so cool to be followed by you and i go but i didn't see anything yeah i didn't really follow you you were just a number but even that 18 000 followers twitter wasn't putting them all on there no i can't that they're deciding what goes on your timeline and all so i'm trying to fix that are you like you i feel like you got like uh big twitter's coming after you type uh concept right now in your head the algorithm's burying you they're not putting all 18 000 people on there i just here's what happens i want to let you know it's real yeah

you should not even worry here's what happens to me though if i get something that i think is uh pretty good or i've spent some time on, I want to feel like it at least had a chance. If I feel like mentally that there's something coming at me and if I don't do everything I can to try and fix that. Hold on, Jordan. Tell him. Tell him what you told Sam Darnold about his mono.

Tell him. Frank, listen. You need to hear this right now. There's two inevitabilities let's get deep here for a second yeah all right speaking do we have any like nice soft background music would you like to write it down and i'll say it all because the truth is i can make anything you're about to say about 5 000 times better uh the inevitability of success and adversity.

We all go through it. I'm a young dad. A lot of adversity right now. Very little sleep and all that. So Sam Darnley has mono, has a Monday night debacle, and the whole deal. For a guy whose life has been pretty awesome, had a low point that was inevitably coming. But when I work with quarterbacks,

I always say when you have adversity and success, those are things you need to get reps at you need to get really good at handling adversity right so you can be emotional and think about how terrible this is and how everyone everything's screwing you and it's the worst or you can go here's what's happening be neutral here's what's happening i do a lot of stuff with sports psychology where you're either positive thinking negative thinking or you're neutral taking things in as facts what's actually happening how am i going to put a plan together and respond instead of just riding the emotional roller coaster? So when success comes, how do I just get good at handling success? How do I get good at handling adversity? So Tom Brady is a perfect example, right? He wins a Super Bowl.

You know what he did the next year? Won another one, right? So got really good at handling success. And then there was a year where, you know, Wes Welker's gone and Gronk's injured and Hernandez is, you know, in prison. And then they like barely lost in the AFC championship game, just handled adversity really well. So when people talk about how good Tom Brady is or how, you know, I look at it and go, he's awesome at handling both of the two things that strike you. And there's levels, right? Success could be three good throws in practice or Joe Burrow's season. And adversity could be a tough afternoon at practice

or didn't finish the back nine the way I wanted to or a catastrophic, horrible life thing. Either way, you've got to get awesome at handling both those things. He asked me to say that. So the Twitter algorithm is catastrophic. Let's see how you handle those. I try to get it out of my mind so I can control everything I can control, and now I feel like I'm getting to that point.

So for me, I watch Russell Wilson. Russell Wilson does exactly what you're saying. When Russell Wilson throws an interception, he's like, let's go back and get him. You ever see this face the quarterbacks make? I'm sure you have. As soon as that face happens, game's over. There are certain guys you can click on the TV, put it on mute,

not look at the score, and I can tell you if they're up or down. Yeah. That's one guys, you can click on the TV, put it on mute, not look at the score. I could tell you if they're up or down. One of the things I look for is demeanor. Body language is a big deal. Body language, demeanor, the face. Bly Cutler had a hard time always. Everybody hated Cutler's body language. But they also only chose to show him. Honestly, the Mannings. The Mannings.

Do you think bad body language? Oh, yeah. Hand palms up and what's going on and all that. Now, did it affect them? They're both going to the Hall fame but but lock that down he said how i think so too but i'm saying we have you officially on for sure um so when i when i look at that it's it's really like it comes from confidence but it's also just that that demeanor of being able to handle those two things really well so it's one of the things i saw in burrow this year is just kind of was flatlined the whole time so when you talk about russell wilson we have the same sports psychologist i work with a guy named trevor moad he's got an amazing book this is coming out right now unbelievable it takes what it takes he'd be a great guest for this by the way

i'm very intrigued by he's changed my life he works with zaben zaben too nick zaben right he did for a long time he's in georgia now he went with Kirby to Georgia. But a ton of pro teams, a ton of top individuals. New book out, too, by the way. Yeah, it takes what it takes. It takes what it takes. Oh, fantastic read. Is it out now? It's out right now, yeah.

There's no way I read it, but other people who read. Let me do it on tape for you, son. What about me reading It Takes What It Takes? You went into your Grouden face right there, and it was kind of like a spasm. People do that, right? They listen to you talk, and they start listening like this. Okay.

People do that. Spider 2, why banana? It was pretty good, man. He leaned over to me during Aerosmith. He goes, you know, Gunther's doing me now, man. He does it better than you. Who's Gunther? DC?

Yeah, defense. Paul Gunther. Yeah. Paul EG. than you. Who's Gunther? DC? Yeah, defense. Paul Gunther. Have you seen my daughter do Gruden? The Gruden impression? Yeah, I think you posted, right? Yeah, she's... My son does it even better. My son looked at me one day. I go, do the Gruden face. He started making the Gruden face in his Yeezys.

He started making the Gruden face. I go, do the voice. He goes, I'll tell you what, man. Where'd that voice come from? It's got to be higher. You haven't done it for years. Okay. Sorry to cut you off. No, we have to get to a break. That was incredibly deep.

Are you leaving Florence waiting for another break? Lawrence, he's outside. He's good. He's Lawrence. Yeah, stay here. I love the insight. And I get to be, it's almost like we're doing play by play in color.

I love it. By the way, epic day, me hopping in the driver's seat of the Uber. Oh, it's so good. Think about that. The fact that he let it happen. Oh, he's super cool. He's super cool.

Coolest guy of all time. I think he had a Bluetooth phone in it. Probably. Oh, that's nice. Let's do that next time. You drive. I'm in the passenger seat narrating as we go. And Uber driver's in the back.

Ah, yes. That's when Pat forgot to signal, sonny. Combine Week. Got two studs in the room with us. Jordan Palmer, quarterback guru, currently coaching Joe Burrow and Mr. Love. Working with Love. Got Cole McDonald from Hawaii. Interesting prospect.

And Steven Montez from Colorado. Got about 15 pass catchers, too, which is kind of a new thing. There's some wide outs, tight ends. Then I'm helping these guys transition. Are you an all-encompassing guy? Like you teach them the 40 and you have like a – No, I've got a strength staff, speed staff, and then I brought in TJ Huchmanzada.

Oh, nice. Great teacher. Great hair. Yeah, great hair. Does he still have that whole – Oh, yeah, I had a haircut. I don't know if he's ever worn a hat either. No, because he's on TV and he's still rocking it. he's crushing it on tv too he's great he's a great

story and a great person that's frank caliendo comedy legend yeah he's uh he's one of those guys that i when i first started seeing tj husman dot zot on tv i watched him i was like i don't know and then i started to watch him more and more i'm go very thoughtful very smart and brings you in and he's one of those he's one of the people i'll listen to for information you've been on football tv for a long time you were on fox from i mean that's like our childhood i think oh yeah right like i think like you were thanks yeah grandpa frankie my dad said whenever my grandpa used to watch that's jokes we used to do about bradshaw but i tell

you what he's calling me old right now that's what he's doing somebody get my toop you ever hear that story about uh he had a to be he had a toupee um uh advertising what do you call it sponsorship he was sponsoring toupees or whatever that is and he was golfing and he put the toupee in his pocket and he wasn't sponsoring them anymore he wasn't sponsored by them anymore that's how he ended the deal i guess yeah terry branch had one of the greatest pieces of advice to me similar to jordan um with that uh no really algorithm yeah yeah it was algorithmic which i believe was a song in 1974. Terry's talking about doing an event, like speaking.

I do a lot of corporate stuff. He does a lot of corporate stuff. And he's like, I went there. I was talking for one of these drug companies or something like that. And I was just sweating up there, Frank. I didn't know anything. I didn't feel it. None of the magic that normally happens was going through my veins i wasn't i wasn't feeling i'm thinking halfway through i'm gonna i'm gonna

give them back the money i'm gonna offer them the money back because this is so bad i got off stage i was about to apologize and they said terry that was the best event we've ever had you're the most amazing speaker in the world and you know what i I realized, Frank? What was that, Terry? You never want to give them back the money. Don't even think about it, Frank. Just take it. Take the money. Run. And there's truth to that.

People, when you go do, I'll do corporate events. Hold on. By the way, incredible story about Terry Bradshaw. You worked at Fox, you worked at ESPN. Now you're kind of taking over the world. In your process of taking By the way, incredible story about Terry Bradshaw. You worked at Fox. You worked at ESPN. Now you're kind of taking over the world. In your process of taking over the world, you speak at the world's elites of private events.

There was rumors around Indianapolis. We're not 100% sure if this happened. You spoke at Jim Irsay's birthday party at his house. You did it. You heard that? Who could have said that? Yeah, some guy leaked it out. But then also just a couple weeks ago,

you were at Tony Robbins' house doing stand-up there. You are the world's elites entertainment. You texted me or I texted you? But then also just a couple weeks ago, you were at Tony Robbins' house doing stand-up there. You are the world's elite's entertainment. You texted me or I texted you and you texted me back, Frank Caliendo. I'm doing it as Gruden. Frank Caliendo entertains the world's elite. That's real though. That's 100% real.

How does that happen? Tony Robbins, did you know who the hell he was before? Oh yeah, yeah i absolutely knew who he was but i'm saying like friendly on a friendly basis i didn't i hadn't met him before and i actually brought you up to him which i know you don't like me to do but i was like you gotta uh some people tony robbins bring me up to tony robbins okay that's very very i done ed my let who's friends with him he and i linked up by the way oh you did okay great because that's he's a fantastic he's one those guys, you go into the room. He does a podcast. He's huge on Instagram. But he's one of those motivational guys that lives the life and believes it.

And you feel it when you go in the room. But I... Where was I going with this? The world's elite's Tony Robbins. Yeah, Tony Robbins. Just move the microphone into my face. And that's when they realized Caliendo was a bigger idiot than they never thought it could be

but you've been around for like 60 years that's the worst thing I've done close you look very young but anyways Tony Robbins Tony Robbins brings you in so I go do their event and I've never done anything like this so they're the happiest people I've ever met

in my entire and it's positivity they create I believe it can happen so they're they're the happiest people I've ever met in my entire yes so I started and it's positivity they create I believe it can happen you might go in there skeptical

but you go in so I go up and Tony's like did you have to do the entire seminar before you no no no I just went in

I flew in and did a quick thing it was like Batman did you impersonate Tony Robbins I was I'm working on it he's got this kind of a voice

he's somewhere in there but he's got his vocal cords are almost nothing. He's willing himself to talk apparently. He told me he should not be able to talk. He's talking about this. Power of positive energy. So I go up on stage and I'm worried because corporate events can be very difficult sometimes.

I can fathom. And I go up there and I start out with the first joke I don't remember I don't even know what I did but all of a sudden I said some trigger word and then music started to play people started to dance and then there was clapping I didn't know there was a DJ somewhere I didn't know where the music was coming from and I'm like I started using that to be the show I was like all right let's find some of these words so I'm doing Trump doing that. Freedom is a way to make it all happen. Let's go with it.

Come on, guys. Let me be clear about this. It was such an amazing thing. And I don't think they thought I was making fun of them because I wasn't. I'm like, this is the greatest audience I've ever been in front of. They would break out into songs cheering my jokes. You know what applause break?

This was 10 times that. This was a Broadway show. People come out in costume on a fake horse. I didn't know where this stuff was coming from. So you're just standing on stage, okay, doing an impression, doing a joke, and then you hit the punchline, they start to laugh, and then somebody's like, horse routine,

and they all start clapping. And there's a button, and people start dancing to a song. It's like somebody in the back hit the circus button all of a sudden. Yes! Oh, that's awesome. And the energy lifted me up even further. I was like, this is incredible. And I told them, every corporate event does this.

They go, we're a great audience. We are a fantastic audience. They're going to love you. And then you go up, and it's kind of like, I don't know. And then afterward, they're like, you say, like I did with the Terry Bradshaw story. I was like, yeah, it was OK. It was all right. They're like, oh, no, you were the best we've ever had. I'm like, but they weren't responding at was all right they're like oh no you were the best we've

ever had I'm like but they weren't replied you know they weren't responding at all they're like oh they never do I go you told me that they're a great audience we didn't want to scare you I'm like no scare me let me know what the actual situation is because if I go in front of an audience that I think is usually amazing and I'm getting nothing I think I'm failing at that point but if I go in front of an audience and get a little laugh out of somebody who never laughs, I'm like, okay, I'm starting to break them. I have to know my situation. It's a game plan.

There's a big difference when somebody isn't giving you energy that you're expecting energy from or if you know there's not gonna be energy and they're not giving it to you, you're like, okay, this is the way it's gonna be. I had to speak at the Sports Radio Summit by- Tony Bruno.

The Tony Bruno Award. That's beautiful. That is what he sounds like. Beautiful. That's exactly what he sounds like. Oh, yeah. He yelled at me at the bathroom of Radio Row. I'd never met him before.

I guess we're peeing next to each other, and I didn't look or whatever, and I go and wash my hands, and as I'm walking out, he does that voice and say, you're not even going to say hello to me. You're not even going to say hello to me you're not even going to say hello to me

without me there's no you Bruno and it like in the bathroom like you know how like there's such good acoustics in the bathroom

it like bounced off it sounded like a real voice of God in there and I'm like oh my and I turned and I saw the names I was like Tony Bruno how's it going

thank you for the award sir that's very very nice of you he's a good guy deep voice he's a great guy but I had to speak in front of a bunch of program directors radio program directors great audience really no no i knew you had me for a second no i was like what they were very serious but they also they enjoyed

it and i was like boy did not feel as if you had a good time there by the way don't care that was a big thing for me is uh not caring how important is that in life mass you go in and you don't care. That was a big thing for me is not caring. How important is that in life? Massive. You go in and you don't care and you just do what you believe in and things happen. Yeah. That's the move. Yeah. The guy.

It's quarterback. It's quarterback. Well, so I'm preparing guys for the combine for these meetings and you can't be meeting with this giant famous coach that you've been dying to play for forever this has to be what it's like chips at a casino by the fake by the way all reports from yesterday joe burrow killed it with the bangles so good job on your part well killed it with all of them because he's just like listen my tape speak for itself and here's our map you guys want to take me and take me but that's a mentality that you got to get in not okay what am i going to

say okay this was the one thing that i was going to remember and i make sure that i make this point what are the questions they ask you like whenever we interview people my big question was if you were a kitchen appliance which kitchen appliance would you be the people that said fork knife or spoon immediately off the list don't want those people here that's not an appliance that is a utensil yeah the microwave good answer uh young mantis who's now over at uh at barstool full time. He said he's the bring a psychologist in, you know, whether they're full-time on staff or whether they're bringing them in, an interview specialist. Colts had a Navy SEAL guy.

Yeah, they're bringing people all the time. I would. Especially if you're talking about picking a quarterback high. I want to know more than how many touchdowns you threw in college, right? And so I want to know how you tick and how you deal with things. And so what I prepare guys for, which is kind of the blanket preparation, is there's a line on a whiteboard. here is person over here is player. Okay. You're going to get questions about your childhood and your upbringing and all that. So what I do is I go, go through the

five key points that make you, you. Okay. So I'll use Josh Allen for an example. Okay. So he's third generation farmer, fireball, California. His dad's his idol idol he's got three siblings he's the leader of the house when you grow up on a farm and the pipe breaks and you're plumbing you don't call a plumber you wake the boys up at 430 get up we got to fix this and I'm gonna teach you how to do it because the next time it breaks you fix it so he's a problem solver he's work ethic he's loyal he's from tiny little town and they're really tight-knit and all that. So you take these key truths.

So no matter what I ask you, I say, you got any siblings? You better get to one of those or two or three of those key truths. So you are talking about what you are prepared to talk about, and you're not rehearsing an answer. So psychologically, on the person side,

we do that. On the player side, have a couple third down plays memorized and exactly what it looks like, and have a couple drive starters, have a couple third down plays memorized and exactly what it looks like and have a couple drive starters have a couple red zone plays so somebody could sit down and say all right um let's say it's a super bowl and uh you know you're down 24 and this is the situation's third and sixth cut through all the stuff just put drop your third and sixth play that you've already got dialed you already got money so you also just basically what i tell guys is you're just having a conversation kind of make it like you're

interviewing them ask them questions control the conversation because confidence gets emoted when that happens as opposed to somebody sitting here waiting for your next question the story about peyton manning showing up with a briefcase or whatever to bill polly and interviewing him is like a folklore i have no idea if it's true or not. But such a hilarious thing if Peyton did do that. Like, actually, I would like to learn if I want to come here because you don't know this yet, but when my brother gets drafted by the team, we are going to say no.

I don't think so. It's an intriguing process, though, because it's hundreds. It's a thing you can get good at. And hundreds. Of millions of dollars on the line, especially with a quarterback. That's a big deal. Yeah, it's a thing you can get good at, right? Owning your story.

People go, I know my story. Okay, but can you get to it really quickly? Or did you just waste four minutes talking about something that's irrelevant and I learned nothing about? How much time do you spend on that type of stuff versus on-field stuff or speed stuff? Depends on the need.

So some guys need a lot of that. Some guys don't need as much as that. Man, you stink at talking. Let's get you in. Get me out of here. No, that's what you say to a quarterback when he comes in like all right you could throw everything but every time i have a conversation with you i want to punch you in the face let's get you in here with this psychologist over here to get you speaking like that's a real thing you

have to do as a coach so right is pick out or bring the right people in to help right i have a baseball gm who works with my guys because when baseball gms when they're picking talent they have to see you for four five six, six years down the road. They have to really think long-term quarterbacks. It's like, I don't know. Rosen got traded after one year. He's the 10th pick in the draft. It's a little shorter window in football, right? I need you to play now. Getting shorter as you're getting shorter. So in baseball, um, it's not right. They got to go through the whole system and I'll see you in the pros in a couple of years. And so just the way that they're're looking at it it was just a really interesting juxtaposition so i started bringing in a baseball gym to work with my guys so smart what were you gonna say mental versus physical

can you give it a percentage because do you think somebody with only a certain amount of tools can overcome that by be in the nfl because it's different at each tier in the nfl can somebody overcome having just you know a good arm for NFL standards by being smarter than everybody else yeah absolutely so basically it's it's more about like the sum of it needs to be a hundred so you might be 70 percent I would look at a guy like uh like Kurt Cousins like Kurt Warner like uh these guys who didn't you know even even uh Mark Bolger Was balling in the league Throwing change ups You know what I mean

Chad Pennington And winning a ton of games Chad Pennington By the way Peyton Did not have a fastball At the end of his career It was all If they called touchdowns

Back from not spinning He would have had like four What'd you say What'd you say Frank Ephus You remember the Ephus pitch Oh yeah It was a softball

Slow pitch It was Dice K right It's what happens When you're 60 years old You remember the guys When they were actually playing. No, Wakefield too. So it just has to equate that. So there's guys who can get away

with just being really physically talented, and there's guys who can get away without smarting everybody, and then there's guys that do both. Ladies and gentlemen, we interrupt this show to have a conversation with Evan Fox, who has managed to find a way to make the pub a worse place than it already was.

Foxy, please explain to the people how the electricity was turned off by the city at the pub this past week. I mean, classic mix-up. Everyone does auto-pay with everything these days. I thought I had it on auto-pay. Apparently, I didn't. Zito just got out of the bathroom telling me,

yep, just took a dump, and there was a handicapped person. I was in the handicapped stall. We had to get on a flight, five minutes. And then Connor calls me. Yeah, power's out at the pub. What's going on? And then the power place actually closed in five minutes, too.

And so I had to really scramble. Don't try to deflect, by the way. With Zito shitting in a handicapped stall and somebody in a wheelchair rolling up to his stall and expecting him to get out zito sitting for two and a half more minutes that's and making sure he gets it all out don't deflect with his bad deed with the fact that you go to miami and now there's no lights on at the pub miami has nothing to do with this i was definitely deflecting though because i want to make zito look bad yeah not me look bad well that's why the pub's dead by the way because you guys throw each other under the bus. I mean, but we also stick together. That's why the pub's the greatest.

You have no power. I mean, it's back on now. You know, my house almost went up into foreclosure, my first ever house. Really? I thought it was on auto pay. I went to Europe, went to some other places, came back. There was a big sign on my door.

It basically said, don't go into foreclosure. We can help you. And I was like, foreclosure? So I called the bank. They're like, sir, you have not made one payment in in like three months or whatever i was like well i've been out of town they're like where have you been i was like out of town what do you want from me like we've sent you mail i'm like well nobody checks mail really i'm so sorry so i just i walked in

there with cash and gave them cash for like the next six months i was like i'm done with this by the way that's why i'm bad with money that's why i'm bad with money but i almost got a house foreclosed on so i understand what you're saying. I was technically out of town, but I think it's a different situation. Every off-season for you, though, were you just gone for like four months? Early was, yeah. Sounds like it. Yeah, it was good. I almost got my house foreclosed on.

The neighbors moved. Right, I moved into a neighborhood. My lawn hasn't been cut in three months. Oh, God. I mean, it's just, I was a terrible neighbor. I had a neighborhood community. They hate it. I think they were having meetings about me. I i think that's kind of what happened to us too though yeah absolutely it actually did happen in the chat yeah i didn't get to see it you guys actually got to see the chats that were happening about you in that neighborhood that

thing that's sad they they were very excited when the foreclosure thing was tapped on my door though i'm sure the neighborhood was like finally fucking banks can get them out of here yeah and i came back i'm just getting started just getting started we got flare fights coming in about a week from you know you gotta do it we used to have flare wars you know like uh fourth of july there's the roman candle roman candles yeah yeah roman candle war sorry about that no flare wars but you get it, we used to have those. There would be like 10 dudes at my house just sprinting around the house. And I used to have like the super big one, like 100 shots or whatever. It was like, and we're just sprinting around the house. Like shots are going over the roof.

I mean, I couldn't even fathom these neighbors with my weeds growing all over everything. I mean, I was a terrible neighbor. They had to hate me, man. But I moved. I grew up. mean, I was a terrible neighbor. They had to hate me, man. But I moved. I grew up. Yeah, we're working on it. And maybe the pub should think about keeping the fucking lights on so your neighbor's entire price in their real estate

doesn't just go to the dumps completely. It really is all nice houses except the pub. It's funny. It's bad. They want you out of there, too. So bad. Everybody wants them out of there except for the neighbors. Yeah. The direct neighbors. The actual been. They want you out of there too. So bad. Everybody wants them out of there except for the neighbors. Yeah.

The direct neighbors. The actual neighbors. Yeah, because. My girlfriend lives there. The pub was good for one thing and one thing alone. I agree. It's pretty neat two together. I 100% agree.

And there's a chance that because you guys stayed in the pub that you're building up enough of a tolerance for bad things. Like the coronavirus could potentially have nothing on what's in that pub. Exactly. I mean, people are getting fishnetted in their faces and people are getting quarantined. And I still think there's probably something worse inside of that pub somewhere if it was to be found. Yeah, they're looking for it. Yep.

Hey, your credit card probably gives you 1% cash back. Yep. But what does your bank account give you? Nothing. Well. cashback yep but what does your bank account give you nothing well do you guys at the pub use banks or is it cash only cash only at the pub most banks give you 0.1 apy interest on your savings but you should be earning more than that foxy with the wealth front cash account you earn more interest on your savings imagine you're trying to achieve something. Imagine this. Just imagine you're trying to achieve something.

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me and uh john holmberg i don't know you had only seen a little bit of clips but holmberg does a ton of impressions oh maybe even more than me he's been on the radio for 20 years and he we bounce stuff back and forth and uh he's actually another guy who's gotten me to to work harder as well he's one of those guys i'll start quoting him on twitter but he will go we'll break into an impression and we'll then both start doing it so it's one of those guys i'll start doing adam schefter and then he'll do a schefter and then we're doing double scheftering and it's one of the things and then maybe go to a jake i've been watching george ball some of the stuff he's been doing it's incredible stuff he's working with incredible people i actually work out on workout on my way to work out. Can you do that?

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The NFL CBA negotiation is one that we on this show if you're new to this show we've picked up a couple new stations if you're new to this show i've been talking about this being a massive deal for a few months now i was talking about it being a massive deal and we probably as especially a heisman of radio show we should have been talking about other things right no other shows were talking about the CBA negotiations really because I would assume the CBA negotiations don't move the needle as well as other things, especially during the season. But in my eyes, especially since I went through the last lockout

and the last CBA negotiation, from the inside looking out, for us it was a massive deal. Like this was a massive ordeal, very emotionally charged, which we're all learning. So whenever I saw that these deals were coming up, I was like, oh, this is going to be a pretty big deal. And I'm very happy it has been, by the way, because aside from the XFL and the NBA, there isn't really much to talk about. But this CBA thing is going to cause, I think, some problems in the locker room potentially. There's a lot of people now questioning their reps for voting whichever way that they voted.

now questioning their reps for voting whichever way that they voted there's a lot of people now that weren't in the voting for the reps or the executive committee that are speaking out about said deal that is getting offered to the players to vote on currently which is going to happen now the cba proposal that the nfl put together and the nflpa put together want to a vote from the player reps 17 said yes 14 said no one person said nah not voting either i don't want to be a part of this so that'll go to a league-wide vote and now what that has done has caused some emotionally charged reactions and we can probably assume that marquise pouncey center for the steelers is out on the new potential CBA. Man, this is crazy, man. I vote no.

F*** that. Our NFLPA, the dudes at the top, the leaders, man, that's all f***ing bulls. F*** that. They ain't looking out for the best of the players. If y'all want my vote, the Pouncey Twins vote no. And if any player on any one of our teams, if y'all hurt for rent money or anything

while we go through this lockout, call us. Man, we got way more money than what they had back in the days. We ain't got to worry about that. All the vets on each team stand the f*** up. Stand up. Show these guys that we care about them. Man, I care about all you young players. And I love you guys to death.

I ain't going to let y'all down. Trust and believe. They trying to sign a bulls*** ass deal just so these motherf***ers sitting at president can go around and smile and say, I got something done. You ain't getting s*** done. You didn't get shit done. Okay, so he's a no. Marquise Pouncey will be voting no. And I can understand where Marquise Pouncey is potentially coming from, by the way, because whenever you're sitting and you're being represented by people. Okay, so when you're sitting back and you're being represented by people, instead people were around for last CBA,

and there was a lot of flaws that were talked about in the locker room about the last CBA, right? Marquise Pouncey's been around for a lot of those conversations that happened. He's been around a long time. So now whenever the same people are doing the negotiation and the same people are potentially coming out with an outcome you don't like, at some point you're going to explode. I think that's what Marquise Pouncey did.

Now, it looked like he was in a beautiful weather climate. I think he's down in Florida somewhere. Had his shirt off, chain hanging, great music playing, sunroof open, windows down. Seems like it should be a good day for Marquise Pouncey. He said, no, no, passionately, this deal is trash, and the people that were representing us up there should not be proud of anything that they did.

And that is a direct line from Marquise Pouncey to the rest of the NFL, telling them, hey, just because these people that we hired to negotiate this deal, just because we hired them doesn't mean they're right. We want more people to look at it. Marquise Pouncey's voice, I assume, and this is just from the reaction that happened after the miles garrett mason rudolph situation from the rest of the league and all the uh media members i would assume marquise pouncey's voice carries a lot of weight you don't see him do a lot of these types of things the fact

that he's this upset and in that emotional i think it will draw not only attention from us where fcc we had to beep out the entire thing but attention from the rest of the players too going hey why is marququis so angry about this? And then you flip on the other side of it. Now you've got the player rep from the Detroit Lions. His name is? Devon Kennard. Devon Kennard said, my vote was yes.

Okay, so now we're automatically learning who voted what and players are questioning players why they voted that. Devon Kennard said, is that right? Yeah. I feel like I did good there. My vote was yes. When the 17th game was originally brought up by the owners and negotiations, our executive committee and player reps had to ask ourselves,

what would the deal have to include to accept a 17th game? I went back to my locker room and received feedback from as many guys as I could. All of the other reps did the same, and the overwhelming consensus that most reps brought back were this. One 17th game check for all players, a significant bump in minimum salaries, an increased percentage of the cap, a significant increase in benefits,

and better quality of life. Parenthesize, camp slash off-season schedule, parenthesize. This deal is not perfect by any means, and there are things that, he spelled there wrong. Can't do that. Can't do it. You know, any means, and there are things that, he spelled there wrong. Can't do that. Can't do it.

You know, they're there and there. They're tough. You know what I mean? But every once in a while, you got to get that right, especially when you're making a statement. There are things that I most certainly, but by the way, that slips through the cracks.

That gets the best of people. I don't know if anybody saw the way my lady was trying to spell prestigious yesterday, but grammar and things like that get in the way. I mess up all the time, but it's tough whenever you're reading this anyways there are things that i most certainly wish were different and or better but when i took a step back majority of the things we wanted is included in this deal every player will get a 17th game check a 117th game check minimum salaries have made a significant increase we

now get 48 with the opportunity to reach 48 and a half percent uh 17 game schedule implemented blah blah player benefits have improved immensely including former players and lastly work roles around camp schedules specifically are much improved overall this is a deal that is going to lead to nfl players getting paid more than we ever have in the past and i capital letters love that okay so you heard jj watt russell wilson marquise pouncey uh and others we'll show james harrison og uh what he said in a second say no this is the first player you've heard say yes and explain why right so now we are legitimately seeing a difference rg3 tweeted out to somebody who voted yes who are the people that voted yes i want to hear from them and then they were like

explain yourself so that's what happens if you're a player rep i just learned that i had no idea that this happens like you're getting held accountable for everything you do but there's a real divide in the nfl right now and who did what james harrison said that this is the same crappy deal from 2011 basically this deal shouldn't have been even on the table and basically took a shot to maury smith who's the nflpa president he said do what's best for the players or go work for the nfl to demoree smith basically so that's a guy that was around for the conversations by the way after the last cba they're like this guy did this this guy did this this did this this is this demoree smith not in a good position either but if he doesn't get a deal done and it's a good deal he's gonna

look terrible by all the players players hate him and last but not least Aaron Rodgers typed up a quite a diatribe which I appreciated by the way he was the first player to come out and explain exactly why he voted no and why he didn't appreciate where the deal was at Aaron Rodgers says I voted no last night my thoughts was how it was captioned with a hashtag I voted no last night. My thoughts was how it was captioned with a hashtag. I voted no last night. My decision to vote no is based off of the conversations I've had with men in my locker room that I'm tasked to represent. Okay, by the way, respect that. Okay, that's what government's supposed to be.

That's what NFL player reps are supposed to do. You're supposed to represent the people that voted you in because there is a vote. So look at these guys, Devon Kennard, all the boys going back to the locker room. It's the off season. So I don't know if you have a team text. I don't know how that works. Or you're just talking to the people that are in the building. And he says, hey guys, what are we thinking? And they go, Aaron, 17 games. No, no. And this is the overwhelming response, he says. This deal will affect every player that ever plays this game. And we have made this decision with only an abbreviated version of the deal and that isn't good enough although i do see that there are many things in the proposal that improve the lives and care for the past present and future nfl players

there are issues with other things 16 games to me was never something to be negotiated the owners made it clear that the 17th game is about paying for the added benefits and had nothing to do with positive feedback received about any extra risks involved with the added regular season game. Also, an extra game for every two seed moving forward on wildcard weekend, i.e. the Green Bay Packers this past season

would have no buy. There are also many issues raised about the workplace, the workload, and the offseason program. Some have been addressed while others have not. With an extra game added to the schedule, added risk in longer stretches before and after the bye week, we felt it was, ooh, he said is was. Sometimes when you're typing emotionally, though,

that type of stuff's going to happen. We felt it was important to address adding more offseason recovery time. The ideas discussed would not add cost for teams. In fact, if anything, it would lessen some of them. My involvement has been for less than the negotiating team, the executive committee, and the owners in these conversations, and I'm sensitive to that and appreciative of the time and sacrifices made. My involvement as a player rep and a 15 year player in this great game though allows me this platform to share my opinion and at the same time requires me to speak on behalf of the sentiment

that i hear from my teammates so he went on and said listen basically the value of our players and the strength of the nflpa can only be realized if we ourselves know and believe in our worth oh that was some deep i respect the democratic nature of this process and have been and will continue to talk with my teammates on the Packers and my colleagues across the league. So that's the first real diatribe or explanation on why somebody voted no.

He said the extra game, by the way, it's a bunch of malarkey, basically. That's what he said, extra game. He talked about the off-season rest schedule and everything like that being good. But I feel like that 17th game for a lot of people is like, hey, if they want an extra week of football, that's an extra. We did the math. The extra one and a half percent of the of the revenue share was five billion dollars over 10 years.

So an extra 17th game and extra playoff, two extra playoff card or two weekend playoff games is going to be a lot more money for the NFL a lot more money in the OGs know that and now you're getting to a point Where it's like do you do what the OGs who've been around and are rich? Very rich and are probably gonna be affected the most by this by the way because playoff checks are less their offseason They don't have to do as much I mean the OGs who've been around who are wealthy who, who have been there, done that, are saying no. And everybody's like, well, it's because they're rich and they're only looking out for themselves. It's like, well, maybe it's also because they went through the last CBA and witnessed all the regret that happened directly after signing the new CBA. Maybe that's why. I mean, it could be because

they're rich and they're out of touch and they're only voting for themselves and being selfish. It could be that. Or it also could be the fact that they remember the conversations that were happening in locker rooms immediately after the last CBA was signed, which was like, man, we got absolutely fornicated on this deal. So although this thing is very interesting and there's a lot of numbers at hand, there is so much that goes into this because you you got people making $100,000 that are only playing in three, four games a year. And you got people making potentially $200 million guaranteed

who all have to agree on the same thing. That's never going to happen. That's like the elections in America. We're supposed to vote one person to run this country. We are 50 different countries. You go to Miami and you go to Indiana. You're talking about two very different places. Two different languages are being spoken. And now we're all supposed to come together and vote on one person. It's a system set up for absolute chaos. That's what it is. There's no way that somebody who grew up in California and somebody grew up in Pittsburgh are going to have the same ideas or ideals, but only one person and one set of people are supposed to govern it.

That's what it's like for this CBA. You've got people from all walks of life, all walks of life. I think that's what's great about football, by the way. Anybody can play football. Little fat guy, he can play. Big fat guy, he can play. Guy that's built like DK Metcalf, he can play. Anybody can play the sport of football from anywhere,

and that's why it's beautiful, but that's also why it's so incredibly impossible to make everybody happy, and that's what we're witnessing right now, and this is what the NFL is banking on is a little bit of discourse because as soon as that happens, they ultimately know that they're going to end up with the best deal possible. It's very interesting to see players like Russell Wilson and Aaron Rodgers and J.J. Watt are the ones that are coming out and saying no to the deal

because they don't need the 17th game check and they don't need that additional money really. But then the lower half of the players who are on the committee and on our player reps are saying yes, because they do want that 17th game check. They do want that minimum. Not just them, by the way.

No, no, but the people, there's a lot more of them who are going to be voting in this than there are the players who have made their a hundred million dollars. Yeah. It's just them, by the way. No, no. But the people they're representing. And there's a lot more of them who are going to be voting in this than there are the players who have made their $100 million. Yeah, it's very interesting. But also, it's like you can easily say that it's just because they're selfish and they're only worrying about themselves.

But those guys that have all made that money were around for the last CBA, right? The younger guys who haven't been around as long don't have as much money. Those guys, those conversations of regret of regret i mean they were real almost every plane ride home for like a year was like talking about oh did you learn did you hear about this boom yep we lost this boom we lost this boom we lost this there was never any like hey we got this we got this we got this it was always like we lost this we lost this we lost this so maybe those conversations are ringing a little bit true in those guys' heads. Maybe it is just about their money. I can't judge for them.

The fact that Marquise Pouncey said, yo, young guys, I'll give you a loan if you need it. Hilarious and awesome. Is that sentiment shared, though? Do you think other players were like, exactly. It's like how many guys are actually going to be like showing out cash. How many guys hopped on Miles Garrett after he hit Mason Rudolph in the head with a helmet? He was the only one. P? He was the only one. Pouncey was the only one.

Now Pouncey's like, yo, I will give money to the young guys. Marquise Pouncey is a guy you want to be teammates with. You want to be friends with. I'm not sure enough people will do what he's saying or suggesting, but Marquise Pouncey's the guy you want to be friends with. It's funny because Ramon Foster, who is a Steelers player rep, who is a guard who plays literally right next to Marquise Pouncey who said he's been at every single meeting of these

he hasn't come out and said he's voted yes but it seems like he's voted yes so like is that going to cause something in the locker room? Oh yeah that's what I'm saying as soon as I let off this entire thing I was like locker room controversy is on its way because that's not going to be something that's forgotten about

that's not going to be something that's forgotten about what that's not going to be something watch him like you know in the weight room he's going to do something but that's why you voted yes you know what i mean like and if those guys are locked in like hearing from like rogers or russell wilson like that's not changing their mind is it russell wilson absolutely not that's no offense to russell wilson russell wilson is an incredibly talented football player. But I think the whole split from the Legion of Boom, I think that has caused quite an interesting perception amongst other football players about him.

But Russell Wilson is a smart guy. Guy's a professional baseball player and a professional football player. He's a Yankee. Same team that the great Bambino played for. All these greats. Aaron Judge is about to make $700 million. Alex Rodriguez, Derek Jeter, Steinbrenner family. Rivera.

Don't know who that is. Stop it. Okay. Russell Wilson. Just stop it. Stop what? You're just trying to get my goose right now, all right? And I'm done with it.

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