The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 178 - Feel Good Friday with Patriots Insider Tom Curran.. Plus An Incredible Conversation With AJ Hawk & Rich Eisen

Episode Date: March 20, 2020

On today's show, Pat welcomes in Patriots insider from NBC Sports Boston, Tom Curran. They chat about New England's reaction to Tom Brady choosing Tampa Bay and whether or not everything is burning down, if he thinks the Patriots have a legitimate chance to win the division next year, if Stidham is the guy, and who one guy the Patriots might go after at Quarterback (2:13-13:25). Also, it's day 4 of McAfee & Hawk Sports Talk, as AJ Hawk and Pat break down everything that is happening in the NFL, what moves surprised them, what they think of the Darius Slay trade, and they also go live on Rich Eisen Show as a tandem to cover other news stories happening around the league. Pat and AJ also share some stories from the locker room from their time in the league and much more (13:27-2:04:09). Stay safe this weekend and make sure to check out youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow as we will continue to go live and give away cash. Come and laugh with us, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hey, how's it going? Happy Friday. We're battling in this damn thing together. We got another great show for you today. A lot of bullshitting, a lot of conversation, so many guests. And I thank you so much for allowing us to penetrate your ears during this time. Presenting sponsor SeatGeek, obviously no live events. Our T's and P's are with all the people over there. And shout out to Lisa Mattress, who's coming in with a massive sale for this weekend. Let me tell you about Lisa. Okay. Lisa has transformed the mattress buying business. You no longer have to go to a despicable, disgusting mattress store and lay in other people's shit. Not that you could do that right now anyways, by the way, you couldn't do that right now, but when you know, things get

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We all sleep on Lisa mattresses here in the office. It's a beautiful thing. It's very convenient. Shout out to Lisa for stepping up and doing this. And also, hey, the world might be burning down around us, but there has to be some time to escape a little bit. I hope this will provide

as a nice mental vacation for you. Joining us now is a man who came on our show last week and was electrifying. From NBC Sports Boston, Mr. Tom E. Curran. That a boy, Tom! That a boy, Tom!

Hey! Hey! How you doing, bud? Tom, how's it going up there with Tom Brady going to Tampa instead of coming back to the Patriots? Oh, we have about 48 degrees and an outright downpour, gray rain, cold, miserable week. Everybody's quarantined, pandemic, Brady gone,

and Jared Stidham starting. There's nothing to look forward to anymore. Really? Tom, Mike Silver has come out and said that the Patriots' plan moving forward is Stidham will be the guy. Now, to the Patriots' credit, Bill Belichick's big brain or Josh McDaniel's coaching, some good quarterbacks have come from that organization who aren't named Tom Brady.

Jimmy G, great quarterback, obviously, for the Niners, led them to a Super Bowl. The Niners ultimately selected Jimmy G over Tom Brady is what everybody is saying. Jacoby Brissett, before he got hurt last year, played great football. Who says that Belichick's big old brain and Josh McDaniel's great coaching didn't find the next guy in line in Jared Stidham?

Or are we all living in a reality that this guy's going to stink and the Patriots are going back to the years of doom and gloom? No, you're closer to the first than the second. And that's why when i started talking to folks within the organization a couple weeks ago about okay well if tom goes then what um and i was told probably about three weeks ago don't expect a veteran don't expect them to go out and get someone um to just kind of put their hands at 10 and 2 and make sure the car stays between the white lines stidham really obviously is as anyone knows who watched a little bit of college football,

he's got a lot of arm talent, which is a catchphrase for he throws it good. But what's cool about last year is he was horrendous at the beginning of training camp, embarrassingly bad, couldn't process anything. Within about 10 days, he made a marked improvement and i think that that ability to to improve quickly is something the team looks at as as something that they can work with last thing i'll say on on stint and pat is that whether it's tom brady or any player the key time in your nfl career as well probably was when you came back after your rookie year.

Oh, yeah. And now it's March, and you're like, oh, I know how this stuff works. I can deal with this. I'm going to make a huge jump. So that's what they're looking for Stidham to make. And he got to be in the room with Tom for at least a year, right? Now, it wasn't the best year, so he got a chance to kind of go through some adversity with Tom.

But it is something you get a chance to learn from the greatest all the time you're going to pick some stuff up but you all are living in or or maybe not i'm not 100 sure you guys are expecting up there that tom brady's gonna have a really good year next year and you guys might not be or is that wrong that's my read on it and i think so too you know i think it's again there are the segmented parts of this population up here in New England. I am of a mind that Brady is going to go to a team that lost seven games by seven points or fewer.

He's not going to turn it over 38 times single-handedly, and they're probably going to win 11 or 12 games. Meanwhile, Brady was the band-aid here in New England to make sure that things never really went off the rails. So while people are saying, eh, it's not having a good year, it doesn't look that good, they still went 12-4 in part because he took care of the ball so well

and got them in and out of bad plays. This team could be a 500 or below team in 2020. Oh, man. Sorry, Connor. I mean, he's in a bad spot back there. I mean, the head just went immediately down to the table there whenever you started busting out these numbers. I had no idea that Tampa Bay lost seven games to seven fewer points.

Tom Brady is worth at least that, let alone if they bring in Antonio Brown on that offense. That Tampa Bay team, Bowles took that defense from number 32 in the league to number five in the league in one year. You have to fathom that that Tampa Bay Buccaneer team and granted I understand that people are saying people said just about the Browns last year when they got Odell Beckham this is a much different situation than the Browns situation this is one that could actually come real there's a lot of hype all of a sudden around this Tampa Bay Buccaneer team and I don't know if it's if it's right or not but I'm all in that

boat I mean I'm like this team could be the truth next year yeah what what's going to be interesting is how quickly brady can come in and tamp it down too and say what are you guys out of your minds do you think that we just in new england said wow look at our roster let's go this is the work ethic i talked to rick straub from the tampa bay times about this look at anytime i'm talking to an ex-player, I always want to defer to their experience because you've done it. But the mindset of you have to be the hardest working team in the NFL to get to the point that Tampa Bay and every other team wants to get to has to seep in. And I don't know if they've been that with Bruce Arians. Can Brady get there and everyone's like, ah, Super Bowl? And he goes, no, no Super Bowl. We're just

worried about the first preseason game. Everybody start on the line. Everybody on the line. So we'll see if that can sink in because it's a mindset, isn't it, Pat? Well, yeah, I think it is a mindset that you have to... There's some cultures that you just know aren't going to win. Like, for instance, the places that

continuously make poor decisions. Continuous. Just one after another. Like, for instance, the places that continuously make poor decisions, continuous, just one after another. Like, for instance, the Detroit Lions. Like, that is a culture that you know that they're just probably not going to win a lot of games no matter what happens. You can bring in anybody. You can have one of the greatest wide receivers to ever play football in Calvin Johnson.

You refuse to pay him, but you have a guy that you could have one of the best of all time. Matt Stafford, if he goes anywhere else, potentially one of the best talented quarterbacks of all time. They just can't do it because they're always making bad decisions like this Darius Slade trade for a third and a fifth, making him now the highest paid cornerback in the game is going to lock up Amari Cooper, which is what the Eagles want. But there are some franchises that you know the culture is right. And that's why i thought everybody would want tom brady to come in there because he immediately ups everybody's game everybody athletic trainers

equipment managers and that's not a deflator comment that's like a real thing it everybody gets better when tom brady's in the building and there's those stories coming out that tom brady has been quoted in the locker room of screaming i I'm the baddest mother on the planet. Like that human coming into your office is just somebody that's like immediately elevating everybody. And I think he'll be good for the Buccaneers. Just like Peyton was for the Colts. Peyton made me a better ball kicker

and he had nothing to do with me. It was just how he attacked every single day, basically. It's funny. Two things I'll observe, too. If Brady can walk in and call himself the baddest MF on the planet and then fix his hair behind his ears, walk the way that he does, and talk as gently as he does,

you know that he really is the baddest MF on the planet. Yeah, he is. He is. Yeah, yeah. That shows how bad he is. Everybody in the locker room looking at him like his face paint is just perfect. You know, he's eating avocado ice cream. I'm the baddest.

Everybody's like, hey, he's not wrong. Yeah, he's not wrong. There was a game in 2010. He flipped out on the sidelines against Pittsburgh. It was a Sunday night game. They had lost a week before to Cleveland. And that was during long hair, Tommy. And he flipped out and he spiked his Gatorade and he's

screaming at everybody. And then at the end of it, he just stops and he takes his hair and he puts it behind his ears. It just doesn't add up. But the other thing is, too, that is what the folks around Brady expected to have happen, Patrick. He's going to go wherever he goes

and it's a full-on culture change the same way Peyton Manning was able to author that and the folks with the Patriots who I've spoken to a like look he doesn't know how dysfunctional some teams are one of the folks that I spoke to said look a player from a team former Patriot had gone to another team, showed the coach a picture. And the picture was of the snacks on the tables for the players to dine on in between meetings. M&Ms, Cheez-Its, you know, Ho-Hos, everything else. And that's the kind of thing that you don't see in New England. They come out with personalized shakes for every single player based upon their nutritional needs that they've had specifically cataloged by the –

these are the things that have to change. Yeah, I would assume the TB12 – that might be a text from the person telling you more information, but I would assume that the TB12 mindset is going to take over in Tampa Bay, at Tampa Bay Buccaneers. I would assume that Guerrero is probably going to be down there with their athletic trainers, I would assume, instituting some new things.

I assume that the nutritionist from TB12 is going to be in there as well. I think this is going to be very much a joint effort between Tom Brady and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers to kind of like reform that place for the last couple years. And I was in the time, man, the world changed in that nutritionist department whenever i was a rookie we used to have wings the night before the game pizza ice cream and that was

a part of like peyton's team now granted peyton would never eat that stuff you're talking about like the people that were very good and high level like dwight freeney always had his own personal chef and they all had their own food but the spreader there was beer there like the night before games it was almost like the old days and then i watched it rapidly change with the new nutritionist and everything like here's your uh cardboard tasting shake for you to have i'm like man last year i was just housing cookies and cream ice cream and they're like uh well this will make you better i'm like it did by the way it absolutely did uh but you're right there are places where travel isn't as great.

Hotels aren't as great. I think with the Kraft family, everything was top of the line. I would assume that he's going to expect that from Tampa. But there are definitely some places in the NFL that don't even have an indoor practice facility. Look, the Patriots have sleep pods all over the place. They have the flotation tanks. They have this stuff on site. the flotation tanks.

They have this stuff on site. And if you listen to Brady sometimes, when they break down after a win, he'd say, you know, make sure you get your rest. I mean, he's maniacal about those little things that give you a preparatory advantage. It's going to be fascinating to watch because that's the biggest thing that has to change,

I would think, Pat, is culture and the tiny little things that go into it. All right. Well, Tom tom we appreciate you uh for joining us you think okay buddy you think stidham's gonna be worth a damn or not i kind of do i kind of do i think that uh he's worth giving a good shot to you know who i'd go get josh rosen talk about a distressed asset what says he's gonna be good at football though i don't know he's taking 10th overall i mean at some point i would he's at the

end of the driveway with a free sign on him or losky said the same thing this morning about did he really yeah what are you stealing or losky's take don't be taking i've said it i said it i said it i'll see you guys i love him i love him. I love him. Welcome to episode four of McAfee and Hawk Sports Talk. The man wearing the athletic arm sleeve on your screen right now and currently speaking is the McAfee part of McAfee and Hawk Sports Talk. The Hawk part is sitting to my left. The handsome.

I guess that is me. My turn to speak, Pat, right? I'm AJ Hawk. You like to give intros and then you let your guest, I guess co-host, announce their name to the people. So yeah, I'm glad. I'm glad to be here. Episode four already, Pat. It's gone quick.

Yes, your name is in the show. Yeah, I know. I don't see this the thing, though, Pat. You're very, everything name is in the show. Yeah, I know. See, this is the thing though, Pat. Everything you do is very organic. When the light comes on, Pat comes alive. So a lot of times if there's a hard pause or something, I don't know if you're going to somebody off camera or you're

coming to me. Will you roll the open, please? Look good, feel good. Feel good, play good. Play good, pay good. pay good, live good, live good, die good. Look, that's you. You're in the open. That's us. Yeah, you guys cut that nice.

That's from the game that we did, right? Baylor-Texas Tech. Oh, yeah. Yeah, the kid had an arm sleeve on, actually, and that's what we were referring to in that particular situation. You ever see an arm sleeve like this, AJ? You ever wear arm sleeves? You wear any accessories on the field? I mean, I i take my wrist i wore wristbands for a while uh you know

you're trying to make your arms look bigger and better and then i took those off maybe year six or seven wow that had to be a big decision though there to take those off like because that probably became like a you don't put my left shoe on before my right i'm kissing my lucky rabbit's foot that whole time that probably became a real situation for you i didn't give it a whole lot of thought because i didn't have a whole lot of those superstitions stitions that a lot of people have i guess um but yeah i i love this thing you love to laugh if somebody fumbles through a word a little bit me i guess i did there yeah which i believe me i fully own it if i'm calling a game or something, I like to own it if I do that. I was laughing at the fact that I said that you had any superstitions in your life

when you clearly are a human who would not have a superstition. Like, that is why I laugh, because you... I don't know. Why do I sound like a guy that wouldn't have any superstitions? Well, because whenever you see videos like this...

Tim Tebow. Roll Tim Tebow. Roll Tim Tebow. When you see videos like this, Tim Tebow, roll Tim Tebow, roll Tim Tebow. When you see videos like this. What's up guys? Just here at the facility walking into practice this morning. Just wanted to make this video to hopefully encourage you wherever you're at, whatever you're going through, just keep fighting, keep believing,

believe in your mission, whatever there is for you to accomplish today. Go after it with all your heart. Yeah, I hope today's a great day. God bless you guys. Go get it. God bless you, Tim Tebow. Whenever you see videos like that, though, like it doesn't work for AJ Hawk. Like I'm ready to run with this arm sleeve through this wall right behind me when Tim Tebow speaks like that.

But you're like the anti-motivational superstition. You're like the anti-professional athlete, I think, in my eyes. And that's a good thing, by the way, not a bad thing. Well, I don't know if I don't look at it that way. I'm very motivated by different people. I mean, have you ever watched Will Smith's clips on YouTube? I know now he's kind of became bigger and doing different things. Back in the day, Will Smith has some serious,

like some legit motivational videos out there. And same with Jim Carrey. Those dudes who take like DMT, I think, they take DMT and they like reach the bottom of their soul and then they like float out. And like, I think they see the world from a bigger picture. They normally become the best motivational speakers afterwards. Like these people are coming from a different place than regular. Yeah, Jim Carrey is one of those guys. He, you talk about that dude is, I don't know. I know

he's an artist now and he's painting, but he is one of those guys. I don't know how, what he, how much he's dabbled into the psychedelics. Like if he's going over to the jungles of Peru and do an ayahuasca or not, I know that's become a thing, not as much anymore with the coronavirus right now, but yeah, Will Smith, man, he's a motivating dude. You can call him whatever you want. I think he's fun. Is that what you do in Peru? You go and you find a shaman and they do ayahuasca and you may puke for a couple hours and then you

remove your ego is gone for a little bit and then you got to find a way to tap back into it once you get back to the States. Is that why people go to Peru? I don't know if Peru specifically does it. I don't know i'm not sure there's different there's ibogaine ayahuasca there's all these different jungle rituals that people will go do we have some friends that went to peru just a week ago and

it was kind of an interesting scene we didn't know why they're going over there maybe it's because they're trying to dive deep into their spiritual soul being is that it better not be are they back are they back from peru we're not 100 sure to, to be honest. We don't know them that well. We only hear from other people about them. Well, I just watched part of Trump's press conference, and one of the questions asked was about Americans being stuck somewhere. I think there's some Americans stuck in Morocco. I think Trump may have mentioned a group of 300 Americans trapped in Peru

that they're going to try their best to get them back here. I got pickpocketed in Morocco. What were you doing in Morocco? Seeing the world, trying to go broke. It was directly after my rookie year. I had too much money, and all my friends were in school and working, so I couldn't hang out with them all the time. So I went on a world cruise, went over to Spain, Morocco,

played some soccer on the streets of Morocco, chugged an entire thing of tea in the basement of a Moroccan rug place I went down into the basement and everybody that we were with was like Pat, you should stay with the group a little bit more and I was like, nah, these people fucking love me over here so I go into this basement of this Moroccan rug company it's just me

they have this tea over in the corner it's like hot tea and I grab it and I just chugged it and I'll tell you what, I made friends forever I think think in that town, I went out and played soccer on the street with their kids. And then one of the little bastards came up and pickpocketed me and he got a few hundred Euro. And I think I could have caught him. I just want to let him know if he's watching this, I could have caught him, but I'll let him go. I said, Hey, you get it, pal. Have a good one. And now I went over and saw the castle. And then we got back on a boat and I, uh, I puked

up everything that I ate that day. So did you know, you felt him pickpocket you yeah i was i was playing soccer right so there was like it was a good time to get me because there is a little bit of contact if you're like playing defense and i think they set up this entire game to pickpocket me now that i'm like really thinking absolutely yeah yeah and i pretty good by the way pretty good with my feedback in soccer wise so i felt like i was really gonna you know slice and dice these moroccan kids that were basically living on the streets and now they think a pretty arrogant move by me i was gonna try to shred them and then all of a sudden i feel like a little a bump on my hip and then two kids like kind of making noise that they should have made and then all of a sudden the whole game was sprinting

the opposite way in the street i was just standing there with the ball so i got a ball i guess but yeah they got all my money yeah jokes on them, you stole their soccer ball and then they're just waiting. And then four hours later, when the next ship comes in from the other cruise line, they're going to do the same thing. As if that day couldn't get worse. You know, Argon nuts. Have you heard about Argon nuts? I don't think so. So Argon oil is in everything. It's in absolutely everything. It comes from Morocco. They call it Moroccan oil. It's from the argon nuts which is argon oil i went over there right before the big argon oil boost in the american economy and i got the number of the guy who had like the largest argon uh nut farm over there i was going to get into mcafee's magic nuts these things make you

look younger they make your hair better it's like cbd basically but from morocco and i was going to get into McAfee's magic nuts. These things make you look younger. They make your hair better. It's like CBD basically, but from Morocco. And I was going to be the guy and I got drunk and lost this phone number. That could have been me. This show would have never happened. I would have retired probably after a year or two. I would be all, I would, I would have been Neutrogena's biggest salesman of Argon nuts. This would be a whole different world. We would have all because of that one day in Morocco where I got pickpocketed then i became friends with them i thought then i get a number for the argon farm and then i get drunk on the boat and lose the number and then a year later i open up a magazine it's like moroccan oil the new craze everything and i'm like that's my guy's nuts that's my guy's nuts that i met and he's happy for him by the way he's probably got a bazillion dollars now but

old mcfee could have had those magic nuts at one point. Hopefully that guy's sitting in his mansion somewhere under self-isolation, and he's watching this, and he sees it, and he reaches out to you, Pat, and you get your piece of the pie. I made him laugh. I made him laugh. They say they'll pay the jesters. I made the guy laugh.

That's why he gave me the numbers. Why are you wearing a G Fuel armband right now? Why aren't you? I didn't get one in the mail. No one sent it to me. Zito, sleeve up. Sleeve up. Sleeve up.

Sleeve up. Oh, I'm sorry. Oh. I like the logo. I don't see Zito. Oh, that's on me, AJ. Here you go. Oh, okay.

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For some GMs Whenever they're trading away Important pieces of their team The Detroit Lions Have a history of stinking in football Okay They just It seems like it's buy one, get one for some GMs whenever they're trading away important pieces of their team. The Detroit Lions have a history of stinking at football. It's a long, deep-rooted history of stinking at football. And I don't think anybody can turn around. I like Matt Patricia as a guy.

I like him as a human. Probably a brilliant football mind. I'm not sure he's going to do it. Jim Caldwell, by the way. I like Jim Caldwell. Love Jim Caldwell. He got them some wins. He ultimately got fired. he's gonna do it jim caldwell by the way i like jim caldwell love jim caldwell he got them some wins wins he ultimately got fired he couldn't do it calvin johnson one of the best wide receivers all the time he couldn't do it maddie stafford one of the best receivers all the time and now just to you know say hey billy o'brien hold my beer they trade away darius slay

for a third in a fifth round pick making the deandre hopkins trade look almost like a good trade all of a sudden how do you feel about this with the eagles gaining the highest paid corner back now in darius slay and the lions seem to be just unloading pieces of that team that seem to be maybe good pieces of that team and there's not a lot of those well first off i think it's a huge pickup for the philadelphia eagles i mean darius slay is an absolute stud. He's still young, too. He's very young. I think he has plenty of great years ahead of him. But I guess he's been wanting a long-term extension in Detroit for a couple years now, hasn't he?

He's kind of been open about that. And they just, I guess, whatever they feel like with their plans moving forward, they don't want to pay him what he's deserved. So guess what? You get traded to Philly, and they come to the table right away and they give you a big old contract and you shore up a side of one of the corner positions on that defense for philly which has been one of the biggest issues their whole season like they just they gave up a ton of balls over the top all year everybody talks about how when you have a shut down corner the entire defense is better as a person who obviously played at a very high level playing defense, Super Bowl

champion, legend at Ohio State. I mean, legend at Ohio State. The Cruz, he's maybe the biggest legend in Ohio State history. Might be the captain of the Legends Cruz. Ezekiel at who? Hello, captain. That's what they say to him when they're walking on the

boat. Oh my God, is that A.J. Hawk? That's the legend, A.J. Hawk. He's capping in this Legends cruise. Should I ask him for his autograph? Oh my God. He grew up on Ohio State Legends Street. The further down the road you lived, the more of a legend you were. He lived at the end of the road, pal. Yeah, that son of a bitch lived all the way to the end. Anyways, whenever you're playing with a guy like

Darius Slay, who is a man-to-man guy, that is so much pressure, not only on Darius Slay but also the your defensive coordinator and your team just banking on one human showing up every single week there's only been a few people that really do it right there isn't a lot of people that do it even revis was coming after richard sherman this year for not doing it even though richard sherman is in man-to-man in some cases and he's an incredible corner i feel like there's just that's a different level of db the ones that go man-to-man all the time tyron matthew came out and tweeted he's like there's only one percent of dudes that go man-to-man on a daily basis in every game basis

and slays that guy what does it take to be that dude and is as a defense are you just banking on him showing up every single week and shutting out their best player on the other team yeah when you have a guy like that and he has established himself as that shutdown corner that you can can lock up their best receiver it's almost like when you have one of those kind of guys you take them for granted because best case scenario you don't hear his name they don't they barely even attempt to throw to his guy and he has an unbelievable game that nobody knows about until you watch the film the next day. And the general public, they may mention it a few times on the air, but let's say he shuts the number one receiver down for 65 plays,

and then the last play that he's in on defense, he gives up a bomb over the top. That's all you remember. Man, this dude had banked one of the greatest games ever. Didn't let this receiver breathe all day long long the quarterback didn't even look in this direction but you have one split second where you hesitate or you take a step off your whole game is shot so yeah you take those guys for granted because if you can lock lock down their best receiver you can do a lot of different things on the other side and combination coverages you can

take away tight ends if they're giving you issues, but when you can take away a number one receiver, there's not a whole lot of guys, not only that can physically do it, but that are up to the task. I mean, that's a ton of pressure too. Think about every single play. And then if you do get a ball caught on you, you got to find a way to stay and have that same level of,

of swagger and confidence to, to shut them down the rest of the game. You have to put a high value on that type of player, don't you? I mean, you would have to put a high value on that type of player don't you i mean you would have to put a high value on that type of player giant what do you think yesterday pat i said you pay your outside rushers and you pay your lockdown corners so whenever you're a team and you just trade them away for a a washer machine and a bag of balls a third rounder and a fifth rounder you have to really question a fan's motive of being a fan of a team that would do that don't you yeah you do but i guess we don't know what's going on behind the scenes i mean i know darius slay's teammates love him the coaches seem to like him but i don't know how he fits into their future

plans what's what's detroit's plan moving forward are they in like a rebuilding question plan they've been rebuilding for 35 years barry 35 years. Barry Sanders retired because of it. So did Calvin Johnson. I mean, they've been in just a – their fans, by the way, we love their fans. I mean, we have a diehard fan in the room. He's not sleeved up like us, like me and Zito. He's not sleeved up like me and Zito. What up?

Sleeve up. Sleeve up. Fox is not. But he's a diehard fan, and I don't know how you would do that. I honestly don't know how you would do that. AJ, I have a question for you. Yeah. You played against the Lions for a lot of years.

In your opinion, why do they stink so bad? Well, they're always able to put up a bunch of yards, and they can get a lot of points, too. I mean, Matt Stafford is legit. He can play. I hope his back injury figures itself out coming into this season. I don't want to cut you off, but think about this. Matt Stafford wants to finally win football games.

He's already accrued $250 million in his career. Trade me to New England. I'll take veteran minimum. You think that's going to be the next step? That's what we're going to hear next? I just threw it out there this morning. Nobody really caught on. So I'm going to try to push that thing as hard as I can because that is a possibility.

Oh, for sure. That is a possibility. How much for sure. That is a possibility. How much is he owed, though? Are the Patriots willing to pick up his salary? Restructure. He said, hey, listen, just get me the hell out of here. Oh, yeah. I've been on this Titanic for far too long, pal.

I've been on this Titanic for far too long. Let me go up to New England with this broken back that I got in Detroit while that ship was sinking for 20 years. Let me get up here. I'll take veteran men. Just let's win some games. Because, by the way, the Patriots don't have very much salary cap at all to pay anybody that could potentially be worth a fuck.

That's why Tom Brady's not there anymore. They just felt, I think, a lot of times it comes down to the numbers. And with Tom Brady, they try to take their emotions out of their decisions. And they do a great job of that. And it seems cold at times. But for Tom, they're like, Hey, if Tom wants all these other pieces around him,

he wants some other weapons. How do we give Tom $30 million a year, but then we also have enough money to spread around to bring him some weapons. We can't do it. We have to make a choice. Nobody can do it. By the way, you pay Jared Goff team stinks.

Todd Gurley. They're trying to trade right now. Supposedly. I wonder if someone's going to pick up his contract, especially now, whoever signs Tom Gurley, don't you think they're now, supposedly. I wonder if someone's going to pick up his contract, especially now. Whoever signs Todd Gurley, don't you think they're going to want to get their own people in there to get MRIs on his knee to see if that knee is really degenerating like they think?

How's he going to go? How many years can we count on him? All that. It's been so interesting because Todd Gurley wanted to play, it sounded like. By Todd Gurley's PR, he wanted to play. And then McVay and the Rams were like, ah, we're resting him for whenever the games matter or whatever. And then when they started playing him towards the end of the year, Todd Gurley was back to being Todd Gurley.

He was running very well. They were winning games. It was just too little too late. So now you have to assume that there's some friction within the room between Todd and the Rams with how they're handling things. And they are strapped for cash with this Jared Goff contract and a Todd Gurley contract. If Todd Gurley can run like he's been saying he can, like him and his team, I think it

very much said like we are, we are ready to go. We understand there's a knee injury that people are calling degenerative. We're ready to go. But if he gets on the market and still has some good games left in him, I mean, look for him to potentially end up at Tampa Bay Buccaneers. That's a real option. They got plenty of cap space. They can make it happen.

Tampa Bay Buccaneers. That's a real option. They've got plenty of cap space. They can make it happen. Tampa Bay Buccaneers getting Todd Gurley. So now you've got Godwin Evans, Antonio Brown, Tom Brady at quarterback, Todd Gurley at running back, a defense that went from 32-5 in Todd Bowles' first year, and a bunch of players that are just trying to ring chase by going to Tampa right now who would

take a lot less money to get to Tampa and potentially win another Super Bowl. That Buccaneers team all of a sudden seems like a destination for a lot of people that you would have never in the past said, you know what, they're going to end up in Tampa. That would never have happened until, what, two days ago, whenever Tom Brady has become Tampa Bay Buccaneers quarterback. It really shows you the power that Tom Brady has, I guess. I mean, that dude goes down there, instantly ticket sales start rising.

You know they're going to be sold out. You know they are absolutely banking on Tom staying healthy. Man, how brutal would it be, not only for the Bucs, but for the NFL, if Tom Brady goes down there and he gets hurt in the first four games of the year? You hear that mass hole back there? It would be devastating to see Tom Brady go down in the first game maybe. You're turning on Tom personally now, Connor? Yes!

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. AJ, no, not at all, i just i i don't want to see him go down i think it'd be sad that's what i'm saying yeah this is it listen to this you hear that that's massachusetts by the way that is new england right there tom kern all the way that's my what are you gonna do connor what are you gonna do when tom comes back to go in the ring of honor and hall of fame and he's he's out there at foxborough waving to the crowd are you gonna boo him no i'm gonna cheer, but if he comes back to play New England, I'm going to boo the shit out of him. You can book that.

Well, yeah, that's understandable. You should do that. Yeah, we're on the same page. Yeah. I like rompous atmospheres, by the way. I assume you do, too. Absolutely. Me, too. I love them. I hate whenever fans call other fans rude and stuff like that. I'm like,

that's what it's supposed to be here. I mean, let's just go ahead and escape rules. Nobody should be beating each other up and stuff like that. But let's assume that moral standards for what you're allowed to say to people and how you're allowed to act in public kind of get thrown out the window whenever you're at a sporting event. I love the places that were just filled with these savages. Like just absolutely Baltimore, underappreciated place.

New England, insane place. I mean, I love those types of atmospheres. Oh, it's great. I think it's awesome when there is always a little bit of animosity between the home crowd and then whoever came to support the visiting team. I know, like, my dad told me a story in Oakland when he almost felt like he was having to get in a fight to protect my mom because someone kept bumping her in the back.

My dad had to sit there and try to make a decision. I think my mom's still upset with him that he didn't turn around and really try to impose his will on this dude. What's your dad's name? Pistol. Oh my gosh. Pistol Hawk? Pistol almost took down somebody else's fan. They don't even

know about it. Fucking Pistol Hawk is sitting right in front. You can't do it. You're going gonna make pistol like so popular with his friends they're gonna find this clip and he's gonna send it to his little buddies and they're all gonna watch it on quarantine in their house and be so excited by the way if you're friends with a guy named pistol hawk you're a bunch of legends too that entire group i bet is just a savage group of individuals oh my god i couldn't even imagine Chet that hangs out with that group. Chet Hayes? Chet Hayes, Tom Hanks' kid?

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I don't know what that means. That third eye staring right at us. That was the most Caucasian I've ever heard that guy speak, though, whenever he really suited and booted that thing up thanks for all the t's and p's bro appreciate that parents aren't even tripping bro they ain't tripping that guy what a life being born to tom hanks fucking wilson i mean what a life dude i'm getting a call right now this is supposed to be rich eisen i We're going to be on the Rich Eisen show Is that alright?

Yeah Hello Hey this is Adam from the Rich Eisen show How you doing Pat? Adam hey I sent a number to Rich Is that number not working? Oh I didn't

You never gave it to me I just had your old number From previous appearances Do you want me to call you On a different number? Why don't you say that number On air for us Is this your cell phone right now?

Is this your cell phone? I'll text it to you. No, this is my personal landline, actually. We'll call him. We'll call him. Can you tell us, is this the number we should call? Is this the number of Rich Eisen Studio that just showed up on my phone? Yeah, just give us the number and call back.

Okay, perfect. Thank you. We were caught in a very interesting situation there, by the way. There were so many numbers that were potentially about to get to this. And I like the fact that you were egging that on, AJ. I mean, that is outrageous. All right, let me copy and paste here. They're three minutes late, by the way.

It's nice to know that other shows are very late with their calls. We are sometimes seven to ten minutes late whenever we're supposed to call people. Maybe even 20 sometimes. You know, time just comes and time just goes. There's nothing to do. Tampa Bay is winning the Super Bowl next year, aren't they? It seems like it right now. They're not the favorite, are they?

I know the odds have changed drastically, but they're not the favorite right now, are they? I don't know. I believe KC is. I mean, like it really matters right now who the favorite is to win the Super Bowl next year, but you've got to take Tampa Bay serious now. Well, and obviously, if Patrick Mahomes doesn't sign that massive extension,

which is kind of – did you get that number? I just sent it to Zito. I'm sorry. All right. I thought he was doing a call. Yeah, this is an interesting prop bet that's currently on FanDuel right now. I'm taking, by the way, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers plus 130 here to have more wins than the New England Patriots next year. The New England Patriots have no cap space. They lost

their offensive captain, their defensive captain. They lost their offensive line coach, their special teams coordinator. They've lost absolutely everybody and they have no money. I just don't know how that team is going to have more wins than Tampa Bay Buccaneers, but I guess, by the way, that's why Bill Belichick is Bill Belichick is what everybody's thinking. I'm not 100% sure how you could think that the Patriots are going to win more than the Bucs next year, especially with all the weapons that are potentially coming to town for a cheaper price. Well, if you had to pick, and I know your hot take shows, Pat, they like to say, who has a better chance of who is set up for success next year, Bill Belichick and the Patriots or Tom Brady? Who has a better chance for success?

You would think Tom Brady. For sure. I don't even think that's really a question. But I guess the power of Belichick is why these odds are the way they are. I have no idea. Do the expectations of the Patriots instantly fall down from what we've had, we've held for the last 15, 20 years for the Patriots? Yeah, has to, right?

Has to. I mean, you can ask Connornor i don't think it is in in boston i don't think the new england patriots fans feel like they should win any less connor knows they're gonna suck i mean connor knows they're gonna suck connor you know they're gonna suck don't you oh he's muted back there because we're calling rich eisen show right now because they couldn't figure out the number to call us but he's saying no he thinks they they're going to be great. Rich Eisen Show. He's one of my favorite guys that I've gotten to meet. I'll say that. And his show is phenomenal. His podcast is phenomenal.

He's got a great sense about what works in this day and age as content and how to communicate it. And also, he's on brand because he's a punter from back in the day. And he's two for the price of one today. Pat McAfee back here on the Rich Eisen Show from the Pat McAfeefee show and uh pat who do you have you want to introduce our guest together rich it is an absolute honor to be on your show once again the voice of the nfl on a day-to-day basis on youtube and radio stations everywhere it's an honor to chat with you sir i can't wait to see what you do with the nfl draft joining you and i today for our standard conversation is the other half of the mcafee and hawk sports talk show which is currently live on youtube right now alongside currently live on youtube alongside rich eisen show that is currently live on youtube mr aj hawk rich what's happening man sorry i don't have a huge long intro monologue

for you but it's good to be with you so you you're live on YouTube, we're live on YouTube, and we're live on the radio. I mean, they can't contain us right now, is what you're saying, Pat, right? Well, I'm very intrigued on how this tech is working, to be honest, because some days you can't even connect a phone call. The fact that we're live on two different platforms and then also a radio station is beautiful, and I don't think there's anybody doing it like this right now, Rich, especially with how handsome A.J. Hawk is. Have you seen this guy's face, Rich?

No, well, not lately. A.J., do you want to describe your face for me? No, I don't, Rich. But you know what? Pat gave me the idea. He said, hey, I'm supposed to go on Rich Eisen at 120. What do you think if we call into Rich's show and we're on there with him? And I said, yeah, why would you not?

The great Rich Eisen. I grew up watching you on TV. I still watch you and listen to everything you do. So like I said before, it's a pleasure to be with you. Dude, you're a good man. All right, let's get into some content. Let's get into some content. Pat and you and AJ could bat it around.

I'll just hop in a little bit, too. We're directing traffic a little bit here. And again, we're on the radio as well as YouTube.com slash Rich Eisen Show. What do you think of Tom Brady, Tampa Bay Buccaneer? Patrick, what do you think of that idea? You know what, Rich? I've been watching

you since I was like four or five years old. And ever since I've watched you cover the NFL, I know that there's always a couple different ways to look at things and perspective. And I think the way to look at this particular move is it's not the sexiest pick. I don't think Tampa Bay is the sexiest pick.

Nobody thought Tampa Tommy was going to be the move, and nobody thought a city like Tampa Bay would be the one that would land the greatest of all time for his first time in free agency in 20 years. But if you start looking at the pieces of the puzzle down there, the picture starts coming a lot more clear because Bruce Arians is not only handing over roster control and he's an OG surrounded by a bunch of old coaches who've been there, done that with everything,

but you've got Godwin, you've got Mike Evans, everybody's saying Antonio Brown is tied at the hip with Tom Brady. You bring him down to Tampa and that Todd Bowles defense that went from 32 to 5 last year, all of a sudden you're talking about a real contender. Now, I think the Patriots will be a good football team because Belichick won't allow them to completely suck, but I think they're much more in a rebuilding phase than the Tampa Bay Buccaneers who are in a potential win-it-now phase.

And that's why you bring in the handsome-ass Tom Brady. And I'm not sure how A.J. Hawk feels, but that's how I feel about the whole thing. So, Rich, I have a question for you. It seems like it was between Tampa Bay and the L.A. Chargers for Tom Brady. That's what it seemed like, the two likely candidates. Why do you think he chose

Tampa, aside from the massive weapons he has on offense, and potentially bringing in Antonio Brown? Well, I mean, if I had a ballpark other than the geographic soundness of being on the East Coast based on his family situation, I think the big answer would be, you know, you look at Los Angeles, and if they are geographically unsound, that's number one. But then number two, with all due respect, and we say that around here,

fully well aware that what's about to come next is somewhat disrespectful, but we feel that we have immunized ourselves to sounding disrespectful. Bruce Arians is the difference. I mean, B.A. is one of the best humans I've ever come across. Anthony Lynn is a great human as well. But Bruce Arians has all that experience in talking to quarterbacks and has all that experience with Tom Moore, who Brady knows from Peyton Manning, is such a resource. And then you plug Evans and Godwin into it. You tack on no state tax and you got yourself a winner. I think, Rich, I think you're

100% accurate in that statement. The no state tax is going to yourself a winner. I think, Rich, I think you're 100% accurate in that statement. The no state tax is going to go a long way, too, in every single decision between Florida and California. But I think when Peyton and Tom Brady, you know, their friendship has really started to blossom on Peyton's places. They were golfing in Jim Nance's backyard. I mean, I think Peyton told Tom what life was like for Peyton in the NFL. You know, like, hey hey if I wanted a guy cut

I could get a guy cut if I wanted to do this I could do this and Tom Brady realized that 20 years into this thing he had literally no control over a lot of things that a lot of other great and iconic quarterbacks have had control over and I think Peyton probably said like hey BA is a good guy to be around especially at this stage he understands that you guys are going to work together Clyde Christensen the quarterback coach is one of Peyton's favorite humans I mean I think Peyton Manning might have had a little bit more say in this entire decision than people could imagine but I think whenever you start looking at it it feels like it's the right decision and I'm not 100% sure the media people love it because Tampa isn't like you know I mean it's Tampa it's

not like Miami or or Boston or York or LA, but I feel like they're going to really do some damage down there. And I think, and when the stories come out, I think Peyton is potentially going to be a part of the conversation piece for Tom Brady. Well, I got to jump in here, Pat, and pull on that string a little bit. You got a good story of Peyton getting somebody cut? So I don't know if I ever saw him actually cut somebody, but there was a couple of times where in training camp a player would zig when they were clearly supposed to zag, and there would be some frustration from the sheriff,

and then all of a sudden that guy just wasn't on the team the next day. And I don't know if that was Peyton, or if I didn't know if that was Bill Pullian or the offensive people, but if Peyton wanted a guy on the field for something, that person was on the field for something. That's why you see him and his wide receivers have such great relationships because for Peyton, he had to work very, very hard. So those reps in practice, they had to go very, very hard. And if Peyton wanted a curfew during the Super Bowl week, there was a curfew

during the Super Bowl week. If Peyton wanted the practice to go longer, the practice would go longer. If Peyton wanted to do something in the weight room, that would happen. Is that what it was like in Green Bay with Aaron and them? AJ, did Aaron have that type of power? Well, I don't think anyone really had the power that Peyton had. I don't know. It may be back in the day, but no, in Green Bay, I think it was

Aaron has plenty of power, but I don't think he ever chose to really use it like that if he wanted. If he wasn't, like you said, if someone zigged and they should have zagged, he's going to definitely coach his guys up, but it wasn't like he's going to get someone cut. I don't know if he had the power or not. If he really wanted to and he wanted to go into the GM's office and tell them,

yeah, maybe it would happen. But I think Peyton, what you witnessed with Peyton Manning in Indianapolis, was like an unprecedented level of power that a quarterback had that we're not really going to see moving forward. Maybe we will. And Pat McAfee, A.J. Hawk here together on the Rich Eisen Show, and we're here together on each other's YouTube pages. It's pretty crazy.

Go ahead and subscribe to theirs. Subscribe to mine as well, and we'll all be all better off for it. And you've got a front row seat too, Patrick, on what Bruce Arians could do with a quarterback, right? And his attitude is, and what he did taking over for Chuck Pagano back in what turned out to be a coach of the year campaign for him in 2012. You got a good story on that front? Yeah, I think B.A. is just so authentic, you know? And I think that's what players resonate with. He's very consistent. Bruce Arians is always going to be Bruce Arians.

He's very competitive. And it feels as if he is also playing in the game with you. I don't know if that makes sense to a lot of people, but he's the first offensive coordinator and last offensive coordinator where it felt as if he was in the game with you. Before the game, him going to talk to guys, it was as if a teammate was talking. It felt like Bruce Arians was just as competitive and just as wanting to win as everybody else.

And I told this story, I think, yesterday or the day before, either on my show or McAfee and Hawk or the Office Olympics, which are at 3 o'clock every single day at youtube.com forward slash the Pat McAfee show. I told this story about how in the first OTAs that Bruce Arians was there with the offense, he always had his signature look. You know, the Kangol hat in the shorts, and he would wear shoes, and you know, obviously, the standard Bruce Arians

look that we've all come to know. One OTA practice, he showed up in the next morning wearing all black. He had a black Kangol hat on, he had a black shirt on, black everything, and I mentioned it, you know. I was like, oh, new look today, Bruce. And he goes, yeah, it's a funeral. We murdered them defensive boys yesterday. And then the whole defense was there. They heard him say it. And they're like, oh, no.

He would chirp in practice against the defensive players. I just think that Bruce Arians and Tom Brady, and we've seen Tom Brady, how he's very emotional. He will get loud. He is the type of guy who's like that. I think he and Bruce will feed off each other in a very good fashion, and I'm kind of excited to see those two kind of hook up, to be honest with you. A.J. Hawk, Pat McAfee together. A.J., what's going on with the Houston Texans players right now in the locker room based on what happened with DeAndre Hopkins being sent away? What do

you think's happening between the temples of anybody that plays for the Houston Texans right now? Well, I think they're all texting each other right now, seeing if any of them had, like, hey, man, did you ever have any interactions like this? Like DeAndre, like Michael Irvin claimed that DeAndre had. But first off, I give DeAndre a lot of credit for coming out and kind of downplaying it and trying to make it less of a story

and say it kind of got taken out of context. It's not what it seems. But, I mean, they're probably looking at each other and thinking, what's our plan moving forward? We just traded away our best receivers, one of the best receivers in the NFL, and we didn't get a whole lot back. Yeah, we got a good running back coming over. We know that he can definitely revive his career here in David Johnson.

But I just – I don't know. I think they're all a bit confused. I really do. Pat? Well, I think they're looking at that trade Detroit made today, and they're saying, you know what? At least we got a second rounder for DeAndre instead of a third rounder for the new highest paid corner in the league

who's a man-to-man. You know what I mean? I think there's a couple of bitters. There's been a couple of decisions this week of free agency that make you go, what the hell is going on? But if you're down there with Houston, you've got to remember, they had a hell of a run this year. They were up, what, 20 on the Super Bowl champs at one point in the playoffs,

and then obviously they give that up. Deshaun Watson was making magic happen. That team, it seemed like they were potentially close to almost making it, like almost becoming a real squad. And now you trade away, and now there's always going to be conversations of who the best wide receiver in the game is. There's always going to be that conversation, and there's situational things that come up,

and you can't outright say who the best wide receiver in the game is. There's probably five people, though, that are in that conversation, four people that are in that conversation for every single year who the best wide receiver is. And DeAndre Hopkins is in that conversation for almost everybody year who the best wide receiver is and deandre hopkins is in that conversation for almost everybody the guy makes insane catches it seems as if the story that came out about his mom and his teammates and now they're saying there's a struggle of power in the locker room okay so his teammates like him a lot if there's a struggle of power at all i just it doesn't make a lot of sense to us and i think arizona got a good one over there and i'd assume

the rest of the team is questioning what the hell the motive is. I got Pat McAfee and A.J. Hawk here together on their show that's on their YouTube page. We're on our YouTube page. I'm on my radio station, McAfee and Hawk, a sports show. Go and check their show out and subscribe there and also subscribe here at youtube.com slash richisonshow. We're also on our radio affiliates. We're kind of Ghostbusters-like crossing streams together.

You're taking a look at what they're doing right there. Yeah, yeah. So we're watching your guys' feed on your page, guys. And, AJ, did I notice, are you ripping a cigar right now? Yeah, absolutely. It's in our show open. There's a cigar on the thing. Yeah.

Yeah. That's the show. This is the times we're living in now. We's a cigar on the set. Yeah. Yeah. That's the show. This is the times we're living in now. We're all stuck in the house. Okay. And everybody in the house doesn't mind you smoking a cigar in the house right now? Well, I do have four young kids. Luckily, I'm up like in an attic that is quarantined off and the smoke does not travel throughout

the house. I have multiple ways to get the smoke out of the house. Yeah. Properly ventilated, I hope. Yeah. Yes. Yes. Okay, guys ventilated, I hope. Yes, yes. Okay, guys, so we do this bit here. The last couple of weeks, Rich has one of the worst Uber ratings we've ever seen.

He's a 4.54, which is virtually unheard of. So just curious, do you guys know what your Uber ratings are? I asked A.J. Hawk to look up his, his too because when Rich asked me to look this up. And by the way, I think I was with Rich when he realized that his Uber rating was so terrible. You're right. I was with you. Yeah, we saw that reaction. I was with you in Indy.

I hit the Uber button and I'm like, damn, this is still in the tank. That's right. It was a real moment over here. I mean, Brock, it was a real moment. Everybody started questioning Rich. I mean, there was a lot of conversation that happened. And, Pat, honestly, have you ever heard of someone with that low of a rating that's unheard of? You know, I don't use the Uber that much, okay?

So I wanted to look up mine before judging Rich. I have a 4.81 rating and i was okay i was told that's not that good either but i have this move where if i if i request an xl suv and you come with some trash toyota highlander that is not an issue it's not highlander that is not an issue it's not an extra i i will cancel my trip and i've been told oh yeah i will cancel my trip i've been told that that probably knocked me down so a few points yeah yeah canceling no good oh uh-huh and all well they're lying to me i don't care i'll cancel right in their faces uh you're lying to me this is not and then um i, I think what really brought my rating down was I once drove an Uber that I got because the guy was driving too slow. So I asked him to get out of the car.

He sat shotgun. I drove his car. That's 100% true story. It's 100% true story. That has to be, break every liability clause in any contract that might be in the fine print, Pat. So you said, get out, I'm driving. Is that right? Well, I had to figure out how to address it, right? I had to because I was sitting in the back seat and I knew I was not going to make my flight if this guy continued to drive in the fashion that he was driving. And I was kind of locked into the spot.

So I had to figure out how you address getting the Uber driver out of his own car seat. So I told him like, you know, like, is this your last run of the day? And he was like, no, it's my first. So I was going to try to be like, oh, if it's your last one, like take it off. So I had to attack him in like four different ways. And basically the way I got him out of there

is I told him that I would pay him $150 cash if he just let me drive his car. And he got out, sat in a shotgun and said, do your thing. He tried to fall asleep during the ride. Thankfully. We made it I made the flight and we'd move forward but I assume that gave me a good three three star rating in that case. So What about you AJ what's your what's your rating so my rating was four point nine two and I didn't know if that was good or not Is that good or not? Is it Is it? Yeah, it's good, I think.

Is that good or not? Is it good? Oh, Aaron Hawk. That's legit right there. Aaron, yeah. That's a legit screenshot of my. See, I've had to cancel rides, too. I don't cancel them like Pat. I don't all of a sudden see the guy's face pop up, and it shows me his car, and I'm like,

oh, that's not good enough for me. I've never done that. I do. I'm not that high class like Pat is. No, I do. I've canceled them if they're five minutes away and I see another one that's two minutes away. I've done that.

That makes me worry about my rating. I want to stretch my knees out. I can't do that in your Highlander. I know it. You know it. What do you need? What do you need, a Sprinter van? No, I need at least a Silverado, though.

I need at least a Silverado back there. I need a little bit of space. I need a Denali. I need something that has Suburbans good. Something that gives me a little bit of space. I need a Denali. I need something that has Suburbans good. Something that gives me a little bit of space. I can't do it. Well, there goes the Toyota sponsorship for AJ and for Pat McAfee and AJ Hawk, a sports show. But you've got at least a lot more to deep end of the pool.

I cannot understand it. I've had people telling me that they vomited in cars with better ratings. Now I've got a guy saying, you're driving too slow. Get the hell out of my drive. He's got a better rating than me. Now I'm driving. All right. Pat, AJ, this is a blast.

Let's do this more often. This is fun. This is good. We should figure out the tech because we were trying to stream your show on our stream, but it's a couple seconds behind, so it's kind of weird. All right, we'll figure it out yeah we'll figure it out uh all right pat uh aj good chatting with you guys uh let's stay in touch appreciate it rich hey rich right back be well fellas that is pat mcafee and aj hawk see you later man they have their own

sports show on their own youtube feed what's it called he called it mack fiend hawk sports show he didn't he doesn't keep up with the product do you think he saw the day one open is that why yeah he saw it he saw what we were doing he wanted to support it but then he didn't he hasn't followed it day to day because he's got his own shit going on and i can respect that yeah by the way we'll never get a toyota sponsorship by the way because i ruined that not because of that Uber story, but because I actually told them, no, I only drive American. And then they spammed me with letters basically telling me that they're the most American car on the road right now. So what happens? I've done it where I order an XL and they bring like a minivan.

I'm cool with a minivan. Like a Plymouth Caravan, which I'm like, this is great. Sliding doors. I got plenty of space in here. I am cool with a minivan. You know what I'm talking about. They have those ones. They say they're XLs, and they great. Sliding doors. I got plenty of space in here. I am cool with a minivan. You know what I'm talking about. They have those ones. They say they're XLs, and they are clearly not an XL.

They have scammed the system so they can get that higher rate. And I'm getting the XL strictly so my legs can be stretched out because the only time I'm in it is a 45-minute ride from a city to an airport. That's the only time I'm in it. So with my knees and legs, I'd like to stretch it out, be a little comfortable, and I get in the back of these hustle vans and i'm like get me the fuck there should only be two xls there should be a tahoe oh three right suburban and the cadillac right well and then uh denali too if it's only five seats it should not be an excel that's what

they're lying and by the way i should give them i give them five stars because i hey i want to knock your hustle i respect what you're doing you're not going to get me i'm going to cancel your shit but i mean it's just one of those're not going to get me. I'm going to cancel your shit. But, I mean, it's just one of those things where if they write me low for that, like, what is that? Is that my fault? I don't know. When was the last time you were driving through a storm and thought, you know what? I fucking love not being able to see what I drive.

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This guy's, what, 6'6", I think. Joe Flacco was just released earlier today by the Denver Broncos. Another veteran quarterback hits the market. New England Patriots are going to sign Joe Flacco. Please no. What? Please no. Please no.

Dude, footsteps Flacco. What are you talking about? What are you talking about? I understand that he's surgical in the playoffs, guys. I really do. But we have Jarrett Stidham in our system already. Just think about old Joey Flacco. Okay?

Old Joey Flacco. Super Bowl champion. $100 million. Friend of the show. Friend of the show. Was on the Pat McAfee Show podcast. No big deal. Made an appearance.

Okay? Actually won a game, I think, after being on the podcast. Yeah. Wasn't normal at the time. Then he became a real leader for Actually won a game, I think, after being on the podcast. Wasn't normal at the time. Then he became a real leader for the first time ever, I think, in my eyes. He spoke up for the first time ever. Like, represented the locker room. It's like, hey, this is happening.

This is happening. This can't happen. Got benched. Got shipped out of town immediately the next day. Joe Flacco, like Joe Cool, never reacted to anything, right? He always felt like he was kind of laissez-faire. He wasn't kind of there. He didn't really care.

Then he finally got that starting job in Denver. I think he actually acted like a leader, said some things that he didn't appreciate and stuff like that. Then he gets benched the next day because of an injury, and now he's gone. He's gone and potentially going to be another quarterback on the market that's going to have to find a new home. Yeah, that kind of sucks for Joe because I'm sure he has heard that

throughout his time playing in college and the pros. They're like, oh, he's not like a to find a new home. Yeah, that kind of sucks for Joe because I'm sure he has heard that throughout his time playing in college and the pros are like, oh, he's not like a real emotional, fiery guy. We love having everyone. They love cutting to clips of Tom Brady going crazy on the sideline, whether he's excited or he's frustrated or mad. They like to see that somebody truly cares. And when someone isn't as outward with their emotions, people think they don't care.

Go back to Jay Cutler, and they always talk about his body language and his facial expressions. Well, Joe Flacco seemed like Joe Cool, like they called him. But then all of a sudden, he decides to start speaking a little bit, and they ship him out of town. They bench him and sit him out, and he hurt his neck. I know that. But, yeah, I really came back to bite him, I guess.

I know that's not the only reason he's not in Denver anymore. But he got cut with a designated failed physical i guess is what it is so we'll have to pass the physical wherever he goes which seems to be tougher and tougher to do right now in these times i like drew lock i like him a lot you like him because he's he was rapping on the sidelines yeah is he a good quarterback call that shit my body god yeah drew lock i'm a big fan of that uh do i think he's good i have no idea they gave somebody problem who they beat houston denver beat houston i think at one point this year is that accurate houston was on like a little bit of run and then denver beat him in houston i think

if my brain is right it could be wrong they got a couple wins there late in the season with drew lock where everybody's thinking like this guy has the chance to really be good and joe flacco now is on the street i mean this is a very this is an interesting time to be a quarterback in the nfl jamis winston's gonna who knows what's gonna happen with him cam newton who he's probably gonna end up getting cut by the way i don't know where he's gonna get signed to i mean this is a very interesting time to be that middle tier quarterback right now there's a bunch of them out there like is there ever been another time where we have this many veteran quarterbacks that have started and guys that have won Super Bowls and played in Super Bowls on the market?

I can't think of another time. No, no way. And by the way, with the way the world has been shut down, I mean, is there a better time in the history of the NFL to have all these key names have the chance to move around? Did you hear about Davion Clowney allegedly asking for $20 million? No. To who? I don't know these are this

is what was rumored on the internet this morning that now remember everybody's trying to leak information about everybody else that's why i think the chargers said by the way that they're moving forward tyrod taylor because i think they want the carolina panthers to think that they could trade them away for a bag of balls with cam newton i think that's what they're trying to do i'm not 100 sure but it was some rumor which is probably bullshit that jdavion clown is looking for like 20 million or something like that that seems like a lot of money in jdavion clowny i don't think is i don't know nothing in me makes me think like jdavion clown is going to be demanding quarterback money i i don't know i might be wrong i think puma paid him 100 million

before he even played in the nfl at some point he's injury prone too i mean like he's missed a lot of games due to injury. So that's. So just put a, put a lot of, put a lot of his money in your in-game bonus. You know, like there's, everyone has, especially veterans. You have these bonuses that for each game that you are active and then you're on the roster, you get put 250 K a game in there for Jadavion. If you want. I think I'm losing feeling in my hand.

Yeah, I definitely did already. Yeah. You took yours off or no? No, no. Because you're what? You're just, you're too jacked. Yeah, you took yours off or no? No, no, sleeves off. Because you're too jacked and that sleeve is cutting off your circulation? You said it. Not me, pal.

By the way, that's a good way to keep other teams away from a guy is to leak that he's potentially thinking about $20 million a year. Jadavion Clowney would have you. Excuse me. I mean, i'm not saying exactly what i'm looking for but that'd be a good way that's why you like the combine season and draft season like the cbs sports is reporting that miami harold miami harold is reporting cbs sports is reporting that miami harold is reporting that the miami dolphins are thinking

about trading up to go for joe burrow and that's been something that people have talked about whether it was two or anything else like that. But if the Cincinnati Bengals trade away that number one pick, I don't know how you as a Bengals fan can be like, yep, I'm going to stay a Bengals fan. I don't know what you do. What could they potentially get that's better than the face of your franchise for the next 10 years?

I don't know. I'm not 100% sure. Especially when it seems like it's such a lock for Joe Burrow to be that guy. He's from Ohio. He hit the ground. What he did at LSU changed everything, I feel like. Think of Coach O's life now that Joe Burrow comes in, makes that run, wins the national title.

Coach O gets an extension. LSU's just going to continue to rebuild and reload with huge five-star talent. You've got to replace Joe Burrow, though. That's the number one thing you've got to figure out. I think it's a no-brainer that the Bengals hopefully take him number one overall. Go Tigers. Go Tigers. I mean, I think that's kind of condescending towards Coach O, how you're doing that.

Go Tigers. Go Tigers. He doesn't have, like, his mouth, he didn't have a stroke where the side of his mouth is dead. No, close your eyes and just listen. I'm looking at you. Part of the impression is how you look doing it. You know Frank Caliendo. Isn't he a friend of the show?

He is a friend of the show. Yeah. Got the clip? Joey Molinar, too. I understand looking is a part of impressions, but I can't get to where he is without the thing. Okay. Then it's fair. That's fair. You is without the thing. Okay. Then it's fair. That's fair.

You try one, AJ. Yeah. I'm good. Come on. You do impressions. When we're off air, you do impressions all the time. Okay, cool. Who do I do impressions of then?

Tell me. The list is endless, really. Laundry list. What was our favorite one the other day? Morgan Freeman. Oh, yeah. That was a good one. That was a real good one.

That was our favorite. Your motivational speech really reminded me of Tebow. Yeah, it was Tebow. You did Tebow the other day morgan freeman that was a real that was our favorite your motivational speech really reminded me of tebow yeah it was tebow you did tebow the other day your chet hanks is really good chet hanks is really good earlier yeah that's four man chet hanks can we get him to call in the show what's he doing rude boy i ain't got time like haze he didn't even use hanks well i think i think if business doesn't go, he'll turn that son of a bitch right over to Hanks, I think. Well, Tom's other son is a legit actor. I don't know his name, but he's a good actor.

Here's my question. Is it hard to be an actor? Yeah, really hard. If you're the son of a star, though, is it hard? No, but I'm saying is that guy's going to get jobs no matter what? Tom Hanks' kid's going to get jobs no matter what. Yeah. I don't know. What? Tom Hanks is... You think jobs no matter what? Tom Hanks' kid's going to get jobs no matter what? Yeah. I don't know.

What? Tom Hanks is – You think it works that way? Tom Hanks is Hollywood. Yes. Only if there's some, like, fanboy casting director that hopes that Tom comes by set and he gets to meet him or maybe pop him in a scene or two. Maybe I don't know the movie business well enough, but I thought it was like you just

got to know people. Having your own production company certainly helps, because you can just make sure your kid is you know. That's what I'm saying. Hey, we're financing it, guess what? Colin's gonna be the star. But that doesn't mean that that doesn't mean it translates to where the fans are gonna love it, and they're gonna come out and buy tickets

for the shows. It's like, Pat, your work with the WWE, there's no telling who the fans are going to take to. If you want to create a star, sometimes the fans just don't take to that person. I will say, that's why Emilio changed his last name and his name. Emilio Estevez, right? Yeah, he's a Sheen. Oh, yeah.

Yeah, he's a Sheen. He didn't want his father's name to get him a job. Well, it turns out he also didn't want Charlie's name. Yeah, very true. Yeah, because you know what happened with old... Tiger Blood. Tiger Blood. When I know. By the way, anyways, that's what we're going to do. We're just going to make movies and cast ourselves in them because nobody else will do it.

I think that's what Tom Hanks did with this kid and he was like, hey, it's pretty good. Let's keep it going. Then you can see how easy acting is. We're going to try to cast you too, by the way. You had a pretty big role in the movie we're going to make in July.

Congratulations. Are you a good actor? No, I'm not a good actor. We have the perfect role for you. You're going to be a good actor. We're going to sit there in silence, read a book or something? No, no, no. You have lines.

I know. You have a lot of lines. Big speaker. Okay. I cannot wait to see it. It's going to be fun. You're a cop. Oh, perfect.

I'm a criminology major. That's easy. We knew that. That's why we casted you. We knew that. That's why we cast you. You are an officer of the law in the movie that we created. It's going to be a good movie, by the way. We're filming it in July. All right. knew that that's why we cast you are uh an officer of the law in the movie that we created it's all

it's gonna be a good movie by the way we're filming it in july all right let's hope the production goes hopefully we can start on time then hold on mls came out and said that may 10th is when they're scheduling their season to begin and that is because of the message that they got from the recent cdc recommendation they said So if that is any tell of anything, should we trust the MLS to be making good decisions? Absolutely not. Their business has not grown, I don't think, one iota other than whenever they bring in a big player,

he has a good couple weeks and then nothing else happens. And then when they leave, it's a big couple weeks and then that's it. But I understand in some cities the MLS is huge. But overall, the MLS, I don't think they would say, has been a smashing success. I wish it would because whenever Zlatan Ibrahimovic was playing for L.A. and it was late night, those games were a lot of fun to watch. But I know what's going on in soccer.

I don't know if you're going to get Americans to understand what's going on in soccer. Neither here nor there. I'm not 100% sure the MLS is going to be right about something. But them coming out with an official date following a CDC recommendation at least clarifies some things in my eyes. I think that May 10th, the CDC is thinking that there's a chance that this is when this is all going to get back to normal, which is good because some people have said three months, a year and things like that. It's nice to hear a little bit of a date in my eyes.

I don't know. I think it gives it gives us some hope, doesn't it? I hope it's not false hope. I mean, the fact that they say anything in May as as far as sports could be happening, gives you some hope. You just have to, I don't know. What's the old saying, Pat? Your mom says, take it with a grain of salt, as our parents' generation will say.

Yeah. Could be a bunch of bullshit. Yep, exactly. My mom said that. Did she? Did Pistol's wife say that, your mom? Pistol's wife, Judy, she did not say that, no. But, yeah, you know, May's wife, Judy, she did not say that, no.

But, yeah, you know, May 10th, man, I hope. But what it seems like is going to happen, whenever sports do end up coming back, doesn't it seem like at least the beginning will be played in empty arenas, empty stadiums? I think I even talked about this yesterday. How are they going to roll that out? I don't know, because how do you get started again? Like, do you have started again like do you

have like a quick 10-day camp for for some of these like if you're the nba and say plans are to go to the playoffs like like nhl hockey i know they're playing they've had they floated out there well maybe we'll start the playoffs whenever we'll just go straight to the playoffs whenever we get back going again i know there's some logistics to work out but okay so this is from um per tsn sports pierre lebrun yep frank cerevalli darren drager the nhl players and some of the board of governors are in favor of this plan to some extent very interesting situation is obviously very fluid was tweeted by a guy named jason uh, Mertitis murder Mertitis. Uh,

it says the training camp would be an early July for the NHL. Uh, the 2019, 2020 finishes in late July. The playoffs are August to September draft free agency is October. And then 2021 begins in November. So the season would end and then, uh,

continue like the next month. The next season would begin the next month later. The NHL guys are going to be dead going into the next season. But at least there's another plan that people are putting together for potential opportunities to play. I don't know how this is all going to work out, man. And how do they roll people back into the stadiums? Like, hey, you know that ban on everything that you just had yeah come on back and gather up with 65 000 people i mean it's all good

come on back in everything's okay let's i think there's going to be some restraint i hope not obviously i hope we can get back to some normalcy but i feel like this is going to be an interesting rollout too that i assume they're trying to figure out now as we go on well yeah don't you think it's going to have to be some kind of gradual rollout to getting people back in public, getting people in large gatherings again. I just, yeah, I don't know how it's going to go. But with think how quickly it's changed to where this is, where we're at right now. Like this is, this is our way of life.

Like how quickly did it change to where this is our normal one week? Like you watch, don't you get kind of, don't you think it's weird when you watch stuff on TV and you see clips of people dapping each other up, giving hugs, just people in a room together. You're like, man, even though that was only seven days ago, 10 days ago or whatever it may be, I, I, where I was at that point in my life. Now I feel like, wow, it's amazing how quickly your brain just switches to a different mode. Dude, it is so hilarious that you say that. I was thinking about that last night.

Anytime somebody goes to embrace each other on television, I'm like, oh, man, that's weird. And then I think about myself. It's hard for me to not. So, like, I'll watch somebody else do it on TV, and I'm like, oh, don't be doing that, you sicko. You have no idea what that person has. But then whenever I see the guys here in the morning,

I'm like, I want to, like, and I'm like, oh, don't do it. Now you're the guy on the TV. It's a very, it's all happening very quickly. And afterwards, Howie Mandela's are going to be the new normal i think there's going to be a lot of hand sanitizer fist bump uh get off me pig i think there's going to be a lot of that i think there's going to be a lot of that in our society i might be like that moving forward by the way i have no idea this thing has just come out of nowhere on people i guess bill gates called it what like five years ago that a pandemic microbes are coming but aside from that i had no idea that this was possible what's going on right now well yeah and there's in there i don't know her name some psychic

lady wrote in a book in 1981 that the year 2020 she somewhat kind of predicted this and then yeah then she said like it's going to disappear and then 10 years later it's going to come back or something like that so i mean you can't put a whole lot into that. Let's see all the predictions she had that weren't true. Oh, so you're like a let me see your numbers type thing? No, I'm just saying everybody guesses right every once in a while. Hey, I'm with you. Listen, I am with you.

I don't think psychic's feet are held to the fire enough. Listen, I am with you. I don't think psychics' feet are held to the fire enough. I would like to see percentages before I come in here and pay you $750 to tell me what my future looks like. I would like to know how accurate we are. Has anybody that you said was going to become rich, go on to become rich and come back and tell you thanks for that? I just would like to. These are little pieces of information.

Sorry to cut you off. How many dead bodies have you found? You know at times cops have brought in psychics to try to find where a dead body is. That's pretty impressive when that actually happens, whether they stumble on it out of dumb luck or whatever. But I want to see, OK, if you have figured out three or four murders that the cops couldn't figure out and you found dead bodies and you figured out the suspects, then I may give a little more credence to what your predictions may be. And by the way, I think you should charge more than the son of a bitch that's on the side of the street. If you found a body and you're a psychic, I think your price should go up accordingly. I would be willing to pay. Yeah.

I think that's very fair. Yeah. You tell me, Pat, if you had something happen in your family where you needed to find a family member or something and you've gone through everything, would you reach out to a psychic and say, hey, man, it's probably not going to work, but it's worth a shot. It's my family member. I've got to find him. I'm in. I'm in on the potential mediums and psychics and stuff like that.

I think there's a lot of fugazis out there that are hustling. You've got to really find a good one. But I think there are some people that can do that type of stuff. Now, granted, I smoke a lot of vitamins too, so that's probably. What do you think if we dialed up a psychic right now, say the lady that predicted this coronavirus back in 81, I don't know if she's alive or not. Saliva Brown.

Yeah, will you call her? I'm calling her up right now. Give her a call. Let's ask her, okay, where is Jameis Winston going to be playing next year? Where is Andy Dalton going to be playing? And how many wins do the Tampa Bay Bucs get with Tom Brady and do they win the Super Bowl? That's the questions we need to ask. And if she's right, by the way, awesome.

I'm happy we could do that for your business. Now everybody's going to want it to come to you. If she was right all the time, don't you think one of these gambling websites would have scooped her up and used her full time? I think the sports books do. I think they do. I think they have a time traveler or something.

Matt Groening of the Simpsons is a time traveler. We have confirmed that. Everybody has confirmed that. Every day that passes, a new thing is predicted by the Simpsons to ridiculous accuracy. There's too many coincidences for me not to think that Matt Groening or Groening or however the hell you pronounce his

name is a time traveler. I think one of his buddies is in the sportsbook world too. There's things. Now, Groening or Groening or however the hell you pronounce his name is a time traveler I think one of his buddies is in the sports book world too they there's things now granted I know they miss sometimes but I think they have to miss sometimes because if not it wouldn't be legit there's stuff that those people in the desert do and predict that should not be being predicted I mean it's it's absurd and I'm only realizing that more and more as I call games right because a big part of me calling games is knowing exactly who's betting on what and how much they're betting. And there's been some moments this year

where I'm like, how do these motherfuckers know? How did they know that Navy was going to forget how to play defense in the second half of this game? How did Vegas know that? There are just too many things that I think are too coincidenci for me not to think that they're using some sort of super force.

Yeah, I guess, especially with the fact that they're so crazy back and forth games and they're so close. It's so difficult, I feel like, to handicap any sport. Let alone football. How do you handicap a football game? You talk to the players and the coaches that are in the game. They don't know what's going to happen. Like, well, hopefully we play well today.

We have a good chance of winning. If we don't play great, we're going to get killed. And both teams probably feel that way. And literally, if you were to ask me in a lot of games, how are you going to do this weekend? I'm like, I hope good. I'm not 100% sure. And these people in Vegas are like, well,

McAfee's going to Shanklin this week. There's going to be a short field. They're going to score. That's going to hit the over. Let's bump that up a little bit. It's like, how the fuck did you know that I was going to suck? How did you know I was going to suck this week? I would like to know that.

And that's why it's so much fun. Because when you win, you're beating people with superpowers. And that's why going to suck. How did you know I was going to suck this week? I would like to know that. And that's why it's so much fun, because when you win, you're beating people with superpowers. And that's why it feels good. Pat, I know you tried to make a comeback to the punting-kicking game, what, a year or two ago? And I know you have some knee issues. Have you started working out again and getting some treatment on that knee, thinking about joining the Tampa Bay Bucs and Tom Brady.

Let me put this vitamin away now that I think about that. I know a lot of those coaches down there, too. I just talked about it on Get Up this morning about old players ring chasing, taking good deals down there to be a part of the Buccaneers organization to get a Super Bowl ring. Might be time. You know, I didn't give myself enough preparation time that last time. It was only like a three-week time before I could get in there,

and I hadn't done anything for two and a half, three years. So the knees really got a clear moment on them, and they were like, no, dog, this ain't it. They probably knew, by the way, what was going to happen in Chicago this year. Pat, do you think what I started thinking about was some of these, all sports that are off right now do you think any of them are like alright this is the time let's juice it up get me on

a nice cycle of some juice because I doubt they're sending testers to people's houses and having them pee in a cup in front of their children and their family to test for performance enhancing drugs yeah because you can't the way you collect piss is by going to the person's house going into their house going into a bathroom with them, watching them pee out of their baby maker, sealing that up, shaking hands with each other, saying goodbye to the family, walking out of the house, put that on repeat.

That is literally what their job is. And I respect those people, by the way. I've ran into a lot of them. I got tested eight times a month for 27 months, okay? But that is something that I assume they're not allowing. You can't just let randoms in your house especially to stare at your penis i mean that can't be happening in times like this i would be intrigued to see how many guys come back after this thing in much better shape you're looking at guys that used to be six foot two head got so big another six four it's like what the hell happened to you what were you doing

for the covet-19 pal? Look at your quarantine gains. Yeah. I mean, I'm telling, I wonder if guys are thinking about that and maybe it's a lot more difficult to get their hands on some stuff right now with doctors and stuff are a little, they have some things that are much more important to tend to, I guess, but it got me thinking, I'm like, there's no way they're testing. I think so. I think the Olympics said they're still testing right now. Like they have have a you gotta be in the testing pool they're still trying to test people it has to be way reduced from what it normally is the amount of tests they're actually giving out it seems pretty dangerous if you're gonna go test these people seems like it's not top priority right now in the world but yeah i started thinking that instantly with with nhl nba nfl guys i'm like man i don't know maybe they'll

get on a quick cycle for a month and hopefully they have some residual effects once they get off. Have we heard of anybody failing for HGH in the NFL testing since they started testing it? They never have. The only people that have ever been busted for HGH, I think, was when whoever sold it to them snitched on them. Yeah, because I think they say that they test for it

just to say that they test for it. There's no baseline. That's the thing. They test, what, one guy a week, I think, from each team for HGH where they take blood or something like that. But there's no – like everyone's natural HGH levels are way different, so I think they're still trying to come up with like a baseline of what would be excessive for amount of human growth hormone in your body,

I guess, or maybe they can tell if it's from an outside source. I don't know, but no one's getting popped for it. I didn't really know what it was until the NFL and the NFLPA made this big deal that they were testing for it. Now you're going to have to give blood, and they're trying to figure out how to test for it. I didn't really know what it was. But you hear the way it's talked about in locker rooms.

It is hysterical. You hear people like, oh, that guy's on that HGH. You can recover from an acl in three days with hgh like the way people talk about it it was like this glorious thing i'm like when i retire i'll tell you what i don't know exactly what i'm gonna do but i'm gonna get me some fucking hgh from what i've heard about this stuff they they talk it was being talked about as if it was a little fountain of youth coming out of the earth it was like if you get a sip of this stuff your skin's gonna get everything's just gonna get

better and i'm like well all right as soon as i retire i am getting on that immediate and then when i retired at uh 29 turns out very hard to find it's not it's not easy to get is what i was told where you can say supposedly one who uh mr cushing in front of the show he failed for hgh or is it was it a failed ped and hgh test it does say performance enhancing drug test but see i don't know but it says hgh next to i don't know if yeah because i think for a little bit they were lumping them together as a brand is that they were testing for both because i think i don't know it was a major conversation piece in the locker room though i i remember it being because you could see some people who hindsight might have potentially been on it explaining why they can't test for it and i was like oh that's that's an awfully descriptive

fucking reason he got there pal i mean that's an interesting thing but uh as you move it turns out it's i guess it's not that easy to find but if you're alex rodriguez and those boys from screwball i mean that did you watch screwball oh yeah uh Billy Corbin, who directed that and did the whole thing. It's amazing. Dude, that guy hated Manny Ramirez. I mean, he absolutely... Was that him, Manny, he hated, right? Yeah, Man Ram, yeah. Manny wouldn't be able to sleep unless I told him a bedtime story.

Is that needed in this documentary? Do you need to just bury Manny Ramirez out of nowhere, pal? I don't think that was deserved. Did you like how he had little kids play the characters of the of the people like a rod and all the other guys one of the children is a big fan of this show so he's probably watching right now i don't know one of those actors is watching right now the there's all the kids did a great job i didn't love the concept but i think the kids put in the position did did a good job it was definitely a he took a risk there billy

corbin did doing it but who if it wasn't little kids you would just hire actors that they're going that guy kind of looks like alex rodriguez i i don't mind the drunk history idea or the you know what i mean like i don't mind the reenactment stuff i think i've been so because documentaries do it now all the time i mean i watched so many reenactments i think i don't know the kids wasn't it was a good move i mean we talked it literally the next day after watching it. I was like, the kids, I think it was a good tactic. Billy Corbin, also Cocaine Cowboys, great documentary. I mean, I'm...

The U. The U. I think the guy does good work. It was an aggressive decision. Yeah, Cocaine Cowboys, I think, is my favorite documentary out there. Bingo. Me too. By the way, I think that was my first documentary where I realized that the world was a very wild place.

And Florida is a very wild place and was much wilder back then. You should see. They just got Tom Brady down there. He's about to get it. Those Tampa Bay Buccaneers tailgate parties are about to get a lot better. A lot better. I hope Tom buys a gigantic house on the water down there somewhere. Him and Bill Gates are building an entire town down there. Oh was a meeting did you hear about that bill gates i know they had

dinner right bill gates the owner of the lightning uh jeter jeter derrick jeter and tom brady were meeting and that happened on sunday night or something like that sunday night and bill gates i guess is looking to build real estate down there in tampa i would assume if tom's at that meeting he and derrick j are also involved with that. So not only is Tom going to a new city to revive, hopefully, its football legacy, but now they're also potentially building Tomtown in the middle of Tampa. And I like that move. That's a good business move for Tom Brady.

Yeah, anytime you can be affiliated with Bill Gates. I mean, what's next? Is Elon Musk going to partner up with TV12? Is he stepping down every ceo is like we're hot we're hot see you later no elon just tweeted something that he would be willing to shift uh what he's doing in his manufacturing plants and start making ventilators if uh if the u.s needs him he needs to make a jet pack uh but i ventilators too let's uh they have jet packs already now the zapadas the zapatas over there

in france they've been shut down by every government agency even though they go across the bay and everything like that they're they're not letting it for uh public consumption yet or commercial use but i'm gonna buy the first one i'm gonna land on this building every day they shouldn't be they shouldn't be out there for just regular joes like you or me to use why not what the fuck why are you lumping me in with you okay what kind of training program are we going to put you through before we let you just fly around above us and all of a sudden oh yeah well pat's dead and he killed three people with him when he when he crashed in the middle of the section aj why are you why are you putting so

much negativity trying to protect other people around pat if you want to hurt yourself that's on you but if you do that in public? Trying to protect other people around, Pat. If you want to hurt yourself, that's on you. But if you do that in public, you're going to hurt other people. Have a little faith. You don't think I'm going to go through an entire... No, I definitely don't think you're going to go through an entire... Pilot course? If they told you you had to sit through a two-hour meeting on how to strap it in, you'd be like, all right, guys, just give me the short version.

That is very valid very valid but we're talking about space age futuristic stuff that i would want to learn about anyways i would want to know about my new vehicle that's better than everybody else's i would listen i would dive head first if elon musk was up there teaching me with his little alien brain about how i don't die or kill kill other people and I get to work with zero traffic in like a minute and a half. I mean, I'm the right guy to pick. But with that being said, Elon Musk is also an alien. Oh, yes. I believe that.

Yeah. Is he a shapeshifter? Yeah. I don't know how it works. Depends what kind of alien he is, really. Yeah. I don't fully understand how. By the way, I also think there's like a white trash planet out there with dumb aliens that can't make it to us and we can't make to them i i don't think every other alien out there

is smarter than us i think there are other planets that are dumb aliens too they just can't get to us you know because they're stupid so i do think that happens but elon comes from a smart one and i think he brings their technology to our planet makes a billion dollars off of it, gives it away. Then he hops in his own SpaceX, goes back to his planet, comes back with a new idea, makes a billion dollars, gives it away, hops back in his little spaceship. And then put that on repeat for the next, what, 200, 300 years. Wow. So have you thought about this before? Or did you just come up with that right off the top of your head? Oh, no.

Oh, no. I was in Los Angeles, California, walking on Santa Monica's pier there. I saw people tripping out on a lot of drugs. I was watching a lot of things. And up in the sky was a UFO. It was a clear as day UFO. I went live on Twitter. I went live on Twitter.

That's how sold I was that it was a UFO. I never go on my Periscope live all by myself. I'm like, well, if somebody's going to capture this fucking UFO, it's going to be me. So I live and it's this big the colors were massive and then it just it left this and i'm like this is a ufo and everybody's like no dude that's spacex that's a spacex uh launch and i'm like what's spacex they're like oh that's elon musk's rocket ship i'm like is it not has it not been painted any clearer than this? Elon Musk built his own rocket ship to take his ass back to his own planet and come back. And everybody's like, yeah, that's just our guy, Elon. Like, yeah, that's just fucking Elon taking off into the universe.

It's insane. The guy's an alien. Yeah. Were you outraged when he took a little hit on Joe Rogan's podcast and then the stock stock plummeted for a day, and then it jumped back up. I'll tell you what. My aliens don't smoke that terrible, disgusting, despicable devil lettuce. Devil's dandruff is a different drug, and that is bad.

But the devil's lettuce. I am disgusted that he did that. I love that he did that, by the way. Made me think he was a human, but the way he smoked, alien. As soon as you watched it, you're like, guy's an alien. Yeah. He was just trying to be relatable a little bit. Maybe, I know there's people out there that thought Joe kind of bullied him into taking a hit.

I didn't feel that way. By the way, Joe can do whatever he wants, I think. Joe Rogan's allowed to do whatever he wants. Oh, absolutely. He's untouchable. He created his own thing. He's like you. It's pretty much you. No, no, no, no, no if if i'm like joe one day that'll be awesome you know he has five navy seals that

just flank him at all times elon no joe no he does oh he does have security i know at his warehouse yeah oh oh have you been there no i haven't been there oh well let me drop a piece of information for you from a guy who's been there, Burt Kreischer. Five Navy SEALs flank him at all times. Can't even see him. Can't even see him. He's like, they're like Secret Service. Burt, trust me, Burt actually just pumped you up

on Fighter and the Kid yesterday. They talked you up for like 20 minutes, first off. I heard it. By the way, big shout out to Brendan. Big shout out to Brendan and Burt for the love. That was way too nice of them. I appreciate them immensely. That was very, too nice of them. I appreciate them immensely. That was very, very nice of them.

I'm thankful for that. Oh, they love you. And they have Bill Burr's in on, in on you as well. But I know, I know Bert, I've had him on my podcast before, back in the day with, with Tom Segura, both of them at the same time. And there's one thing we know about Bert is he is not scared to inflate stories and make them bigger and better. What? Okay. not scared to inflate stories and make them bigger and better what okay so this does make sense that

you just said what you just said because burke kreischer was wondering if you hate him or not because i guess yeah i guess you questioned one time to uh somebody how they could be possibly friends with burke kreischer burke kreischer thinks that you hate him i want to let you know that i mean this is a joke right you trolling me or something? No. No, no, no. He was serious. Then name names because I don't believe that's true. But obviously, I'm a fan of Bert.

If I heard him talk you up yesterday. Well, I just want to let you know we said no. Yeah. No. He's the best. No, no. That's why AJ meant that as a joke. Very nice.

He meant that as a joke. Yeah. Bert's got a new special on Netflix. Birdie Boy, did you watch it yet? Or no, Hey Big Boy. I've watched like the first 20 minutes so far. Literally, as soon as I get home, I've been passing out these last couple days because I'm speaking into a microphone too much.

It's way too much me. But this weekend, I can't wait to spend some time with old Burt Kreischer in Hey Big Boy. Yeah, he takes his shirt off right when he walks on stage. I know. It'll be good. It was good. He started out strong, first 15 or 20. AJ, you hate Bert Kreischer, huh?

Why do you hate Bert Kreischer? Why would you say I hate Bert Kreischer? I would never talk about somebody this much if I hated him. He said you hated him. No, he didn't. Bert, first off, doesn't know. He doesn't remember coming on much. He doesn't remember anything about me, so there's no way he... He did remember. He did remember. Take it easy, man easy man he actually said i did his show a couple times i enjoyed him

and then whenever i thought he hated me he wasn't happy about it we were like bert everybody loves you bert stop we have the clip yeah pulling up oh no there's no way it just crashed oh man it crashed you guys the tech wizards that can do everything and turn things around in 30 seconds somehow can't find this made-up clip that you guys are talking about. It's not made up. It's not made up. It crashed. It's not us.

It's the Wi-Fi. Get off the Wi-Fi. It's the satellites. It's Elon. Elon, the aliens. They're spaceships in front of the satellite dish. Calm down, AJ. Have you come around to the thought that Elon is an alien, by the way?

Are you in on it? If he is an alien, it doesn't change how I feel about him. It doesn't change how I go about my life. Aliens lives matter, dude. Sure. Of course they do. And Elon's done a lot of great stuff. And my wife drives a Tesla right now.

So, yeah, of course. I respect Elon and what he has done. Is he an alien? Who knows? What is an alien? I don't know. Well, an alien would be somebody from another planet extraterrestrial yeah yeah but there's also like hybrids there's hybrid aliens that are half human

half alien no how do you know i don't think so okay how do they how do they all of a sudden look like a human then if you're elon musk you think he was born looking like that on a different planet he just came here you know i i often wonder that i think he's in one of those little chairs inside of Elon's head. I think he's in one of those chairs. They met in black. He built Elon. He built Elon's body. He drinks sugar water. I think he is...

I think he's in there. That's what I think's happening. I see him sometimes whenever he's talking. I actually see a little guy inside like blank, blank, blank, blank, blank, blank, blank. You know what I mean? Yeah. Do you believe in the simulation theory?

Oh, I know. That one's been freaking me out a little bit. I've been reading about it. The Matrix? Yeah, that one freaks me out a little bit. It made me think about simulation theory when you're saying like Elon's got a little guy controlling him. Like is there somebody up there controlling everything? Well, shout out to my person or alien that's controlling me.

I appreciate what they've done. They put me through some hell that reaper pepper yesterday and the arrest and everything like that but i appreciate what they've done for me so far i mean don't act like first off the arrest in the moment yes i'm sure it was very stressful a lot of anxiety for you but you took lemons and you made lemonade i agree i agree that's what life's all about have you ever been in solitary confinement? No. With you and your thoughts? No. In a broken toilet? Smells like shit?

How long were you there? Long enough. Too long. But did it help or hurt the fact that you were severely inebriated? Well, I mean, you know, the worst times are coming out of that inebriation and realizing you're in solitary confinement. You know, that's really are coming out of that inebriation and realizing you're in solitary confinement. You know, that's, that's really the times that get you. And then they throw in a sandwich and you ask what it is and they say, it's supposed to be baloney. Like how is something

supposed to be a fake meat? I don't know how that happened. So I asked that question. They tell me not to eat it. And then he threw in a couple of vanilla wafers. And I was like, thanks for that. I'm going to eat the desserts here to get me through the day. And if I am here long enough then i'll eat that fake bologna stuff but i'm gonna kind of just sit with my thoughts in this shit smelling uh solitary confinement cell this is a fun sports show it's the worst sports show i think our show probably the worst sports show no you always say that every show i'm on is normally the worst show. Why? Well, because I ruin things. We had an update from Diggs right here. Diggs, Diggsy updates.

What's going on, pal? I have a TV clip from Ian Rapoport. Rapoport from NFL Network Insider says. Well, there definitely was some sense that Tom Brady would want to bring Antonio Brown with him. This from some of the other teams that were potentially in the mix here. It really wasn't a secret. Brady and AB have remained close. My understanding is this is not something that Bruce Arians is in favor of. He's had Antonio Brown before. He had him a couple years in Pittsburgh. It does not sound like it went well. This does not

seem to be like the direction that the Bucs would be going. By the way, Brady's still getting that physical, from what I understand. And I know we're all enjoying the suspense. It actually may stretch into tomorrow. Okay. All right. Thank you, Diggs. That's a massive piece of information right there. When did that just pop up out of nowhere?

Are they just trying to fill time out there? Yeah, but what are they doing? Are they just bouncing around in Rapport, just kicking around ideas, or like breaking news type thing? How was that thing delivered right there? I wasn't watching NFL Network. I just saw it come across the timeline on Twitter. Got it.

I just tweeted it out. I respect it. Because everybody right now is just trying to figure shit out. What up, dude? So you know B.A. You played when Bruce Arians was on staff. Let's say Tom Brady really wants – he's really pushing for AB to come in. And Bruce Arians is completely against it.

Who wins that battle? I think Tom Brady would win it at this time, wouldn't you? Yeah, you would. The most powerful person in Tampa Bay right now, in the state of Florida most likely, is Tom Brady. Well, the leaked information was that Tampa Bay was willing to give roster control. What does that mean exactly? What all falls under that?

I think this is a thing that falls under that. I feel like this is something that would fall into that situation, right? I mean, who knows what roster control means? And who knows what one player's opinion could have mean for a lot of people? Because that player could just be on the same page as other people that are thinking the same thing whenever it comes to cutting people but i think this would be a situation where roster control would be the thought like hey the reason why they even mentioned it is because if tom brady wants a guy let's assume he's going to have the ability to get him but bruce arians i mean he's the guy who is going to be working i would assume hand in hand with tom

brady in this situation if he doesn't want him back that's going to have to be working, I would assume, hand-in-hand with Tom Brady in this situation. If he doesn't want him back, that's going to have to be a conversation they're going to have to have and handle. But everybody on earth knows that if Antonio Brown is acting in a fashion that he was acting before this colossal collapse happened over the last year and a half or year or so, Antonio Brown on that offense with Mike Evans, Godwin, Tom Brady, and that offensive guru coaching staff, they're going to be unstoppable. And that sounds outrageous, but it's not because Mike Evans can go and get it. Godwin's got speed, and Antonio Brown can run every single route.

I mean, it's just they become immediately better, and not just a little bit, a lot better if Antonio Brown's on a team. But this is going to be a power struggle situation early. If Tom wants him and Bruce doesn't, how do they handle this first little skirmish in this two-year relationship with two football icons at this point, Bruce Arians and Tom Brady? This is going to be fun to watch. I wonder if this is what's holding up the contract,

that Tom hasn't worked out the final details. They're saying that the deal was basically agreed to but they're working on like little things here they're the wording the language of it i wonder if some of the language is tom wanting to make sure that they don't say yeah you're gonna have you got plenty of of control and don't worry we're gonna do whatever it takes to get the team that you want out there he maybe he just wants to make sure that's in writing or something instead of just a shaking hand thing yeah i know because they're saying it's a physical because he can't travel and then jeff darlington said oh he can get uh the physical in new york and the doctors trust each other and then when they originally announced it it said barring any unforeseen circumstances

this deal is all but done what if an unforeseenseen circumstance is the Tampa Bay Buccaneers that was released and leaked that they would give Tom Brady roster control are actually saying, no, you can't accept Antonio Brown. And then Tom Brady's, well, if it's except Antonio Brown, what if it's another player that I want? What if that is happening right now? The whole world thinks this deal is completely done. And then behind the scenes, there's like this real conversation happening

about like, what if in a day or two, Tom Brady's like uh it turns out i'm not going to the buccaneers shout out to the chargers we're back in this day and antonio brown's coming with me it's a this is a crazy crazy thing to potentially evolve into something that could be big i don't know why you say shout out to the chargers what doesn't that bring the patriots back in play too if something happens and tampa bay backs out too much money They're not going to sign Antonio Brown. No, no, no. Not New England. What if Tom Brady goes back to New England without

Antonio Brown? He's not going to go to New England and say that, but what if the door is opened up again to New England and Tom's like, you know what? I flirted with it. I thought about it. I put myself mentally in Tampa. I couldn't do it. I want to stay with the Patriots. And he signs a one-year deal worth $13.5 million.

Is that possible? Could happen. Could happen. Doubt it. I don't think it will, but we're just saying, I mean, right now with everything going on, you never know. If you're Tom Brady, would you take a $16.5 million pay cut for the next two years

because you couldn't have Antonio Brown on your team? No. I don't think he would hinge that on any one player in the league. With two receivers who already had 1,000 yards receiving losses. That's the question, Connor, too. And, Pat, you said we may be having a power struggle right now with Bruce Arians and Tom Brady in the front office in Tampa Bay. What about the power struggle?

Is Antonio Brown humbled enough? Is he okay if he's possibly the third receiver on that team? Nick Moraldo said this too. He said Antonio Brown is not the third option on any field that he's on. I just, I don't. But what if the numbers play out that way? I don't think they will. Do you remember what happened when Antonio Brown got on the field

for the Patriots against the Dolphins? He scored. He had three catches on the first three plays yeah he threw him the ball every single time it's because antonio brown is always open that's what antonio brown he's always open that's why through all of it he still was getting job opportunities with the new england patriots because you can be who you can afford to be antonio brown is so good at football it's just that's why this last year and a half has been so sad to watch because it's like yo this is one of our greats here if he can get it back together though and gets on that Tampa Bay team I mean it's gonna be insane will he play somewhere without Tom

Brady that's the next question if he continues on this like sorry a sorrow tour or whatever does he end up on a team that has already has a good culture and they're a good team and they're like, we think he can come in and blend in and be good on our team? What if he ends up on the Chiefs or something? Yeah, that wouldn't. I mean, don't you think Andy Reid kind of has the personality that would be okay with Antonio Brown? And imagine having Antonio Brown, Tyreek Hill, Nicole Hardman.

Kelsey. Travis Kelsey. Damian Williams. Oh, my God. Mahomes would throw for 8,000 yards. It seems like Antonio Brown's best path back to the NFL is attaching himself to Tom Brady. I think a lot of guys' best path in the NFL for the next couple years

is going to be attaching themselves to Tom Brady. There's a lot of people, I guess, reporting interested in going to sign with the Buccaneers right now for less money than other places just so they can potentially latch on and win that thing. That's where we started this whole show. Yeah, and one of them might be Pat McAfee. Whoa.

All right. This has been a good show. We've got to get the hell out of here. Who's their punter? I wouldn't come back to punt. Oh, who's their kicker? You want to do kickoffs? No, I don't want to do kickoffs.

I'd rather... Oh, you... I want to do field goals. What play? Safety? Well, if they're going to sign me at safety, I play safety too but get you on that tb12 you just want to do field goals yeah if i don't want to do anything by the way right i do not want to do anything i am very content with where i'm at happy with how things worked out but if i was to ever go

back to the nfl it would be to kick field goals because nobody's really ever been able to do both successfully for the long haul. Okay. So there's still hope. You never say never. I mean, I'd say never. I mean, unless this comes. The good thing about me retiring at 29 and still having an absolute cannon attached to my hip is if this all comes crashing down, my leg strength is still probably, you know, top third of the NFL for the next couple years if I had to think. Do you have to do anything or is that something you were born with?

It would take me a couple months. I would have to. Because last time I tried to rush back and my knee just was like, nobody. Kicker, Matt Gay. Matt Gay is the kicker? Yeah. How old was he last year? Was he good?

I don't know. I don't know. Look at the wheels turning in your head right now. You're like, okay. What's the date today? March 19th. You're thinking, all right, give me three or four. Okay. You say you want 27 to 35?

Yeah. 27 for center. That's not great for the NFL. I don't know if I'd be able to do better. Yeah, but if you're up there in 2012. I wouldn't want to go back as a kicker. You want to go kick 35-yard extra points? Yeah, man.

Yeah. Especially after last year. Everybody stunk last year. It felt like kicking was. If I just hop out of this studio with hop out of vitamins right onto a field and do pretty good, I mean, that's a hilarious story. Oh, actually, yeah. The rules are changing, too.

You're good. Yeah, I know. Yeah, pretty good spot. The Pat McAfee rule. I think that's how they wrote it up in the new CVS. I have a couple rules in there. I have a couple rules in there. What's another one?

The new kickoff return is basically a Pat McAfee rule. Should be. What, that they don't get running starts? Well, that's the XFL. NFL doesn't get running starts either. Oh, yeah. That's the kickoff team. The kickoff return team, though, they have basically nine guys within 20 yards of the kickoff line.

It's like the hands team at all times yeah so whatever our my last year with the colts last couple years with the colts because we kicked so many surprise onside kicks we faced the hands team of other teams the entire game right so everybody had like eight people up nine people up right so eliminated their return immediately if i kicked it in the end zone it was an automatic touchback because they couldn't set up a block, but they wouldn't give up a surprise onside kick. It is alleged that they studied our film from those two years and saw that the injuries went down whenever the hands team were in for the entire thing, and then that became the new rule. Wow, that's good. You're doing good things. I think it's nice how they've taken away those long, you know, when you're

running 50 yards, running into people, and the wedge got taken away those long you know when you're running 50 yards running into people and the wedge got taken away a while ago but yeah i think it's good it keeps the kickoff in play keeps an exciting play there but it does make it somewhat safer well they're trying to get rid of the onside kick now people are pitching i think i think kickers aren't working hard enough on getting good at onside kicks there's been a lot of trash onside kicks that don't get recovered they're like oh you can't recover because of the way the rules are it's like i don't know we recovered you think it's the kickers not spending the time yeah i think because it hurts it's not easy to work on like you got to like pop your you like coming down on a ball if you want to kick a good one so it hurts your groin it hurts your toe it's

not fun to work on but i sucked at them and then i worked very hard on them and it hurt and then i got good at them and then we used it as a weapon but it's not a fun thing to work on like it's you like pull your groin basically every time you're doing it well most things that aren't fun are you know once you're once you do it it's it's worth doing though like nothing nothing's easy that's worth doing young hoku down there in atlanta he recovered a bunch he was good at him like there's people that are good at him but because there's the overwhelming amount of bad guys who just roll it on the ground like some trash like that's not going to work and they're like oh this is boring got to get out now they're going to do a fourth and 15 or something like that that's being pitched for an onside kick is a fourth and 15 what if the chiefs just do that

every single they score fourth and 15 score for entire half. They just decide to do that to somebody. That would be electric television. They should do it like that dude. Was he a Division III college coach or high school coach that never punts? Relax. You hate that guy. I mean, his numbers. If they took the kickoff play out of the NFL, would it just be horrendous for the league?

I think it's weird ceremoniously. Like, how do you start a game? Yeah, it would feel like a JV game or something. That's what I'm saying. Like, as little as that sounds and how, like, petty that might sound, I think that is a real thing with football optically that would be weird. Like, I think when they moved it back to 33-yard extra point, like, I think optically that was weird for a bit.

I still think it is. I don't know why they don't put a spot back there. I don't know. I just think there's some ceremonious stuff that would be weird if there wasn't a kickoff, but it feels like they've been trying to trend in that direction. I think the new rules and stuff have made it a little bit better, but that XFL kickoff rule was getting high, high remarks on the Internet,

so I assume that's going to get intro'd potentially in a preseason game or two. Oh, it definitely will. Another guy that popped into my head just now josh gordon what if josh gordon and antonio brown go to tampa bay and play with tom brady josh gordon put out a tweet i guess that said he would look good in uh he likes the light green unis i think the quote's right on there that sheet yeah josh gordon said um comes back he wants to stay in Seattle via his Twitter. I like those bright green unis is what Josh Gordon said. Flash, who everybody thinks was suspended and repeat suspended because of a marijuana fail, which is now becoming something of the past. If he still got it and it was only marijuana that he failed for, people are saying it was more than marijuana.

I don't see how they keep him out of the league, especially with Ann Martavis Bryant. I think there's a couple people that marijuana kind of got the best of them. If they still got game left, are they going to get back into the sport, you think? Maybe, but with the new testing, they're not going to suspend guys for positive marijuana tests moving forward. Is that all street drugs? Do they continue to test for all street drugs? What if you get popped for coke?

See, I was always intrigued by this because I got tested a lot obviously in the substance of abuse thing you were in the yeah you were in the program for a couple years right yeah i was in a program for 27 months but i never knew what they were testing for like every time they said street drug test i was like oh that's marijuana but they never just said it was the marijuana test what other drug because cocaine counts as a performance enhancer right i think it counts as a performance does it well just like adderall adderall is a performance enhancer because it's it's uh what is that called a uh uh like a focus no there's a word for that it's uh yeah amphetamine amphetamine there it is it's an amphetamine so i think that's considered a performance enhancing drug so i never under really stood what the street drug was other than

marijuana and i don't know i wonder what the other ones are if than marijuana. Yeah, I don't know. I wonder what the other ones are. If they even run it. I would imagine the street drug test runs through all of them though. Weed, coke, meth, all of it. Yeah. They don't test for spice though which is basically meth. They should

test for spice. That was a run. That is scary and dangerous. Man, you hear people calling the cops on themselves doing all kinds of stuff oh yeah it feeds into the fact that i think i might be one of the most mentally tough humans of all time i had to run with spice there for a little bit yeah how was it different than normal vitamins just terrible it was just terrible it was bad but i had to stop everything immediately i mean i was i was going very very hard, partying a lot. Is this before the arrest? Yeah, partying a lot, smoking a lot.

I mean, we were doing it really hard. Maybe harder than, I'm not going to say it. I'm not going to say it because I assume there's some party animals out there. But I was going very hard with a lot of money going very hard with a lot of people. And then all of a sudden it had to stop completely because I didn't want to fail a test because I thought if I failed a test, then I would be in the program for two years. And I was like, I'm not doing that, right?

I'm not doing that. So I stopped everything completely and I went completely sober for like two months. But the spice was the thing that carried me through the first like two weeks of the sobriety. One of the guys on my team was like, they got you? I was like, yeah. He was like, I got you, man. Come down to the the store he gave me the spice and he was like they don't test

for this it's just like weed i was like no it is not is this a killing headache i have right now what is going on here and then i had to back away and then i just you know hunkered down in the house for like two years just did nothing it was a wild time tweet that's all i did was tweet for two years well it seems like it's died down like the spice uh was the bath salts when guys were eating people's faces off like where did that go my favorite thing about bath salts is even the most terrible people on earth decided like this isn't good for us right like everybody was like even the drug dealers were like all right gotta take the bath salts off the market we got people eating cops we got people eating bullets.

And then there was a bust like three months later right here in Muncie, Indiana, where they found all of the bath salts basically like right up the road. They found basically all of the bath salts left in America right up in Muncie. I was like, shout out to Muncie. You know, even the terrible people on Earth were like, we can't sell this shit anymore. And Muncie's like, we'll take it. We'll be the Costco of bath bath salts muncie good people by the way did a show up there lady shit her pants in the middle of it i will have that story forever i love that lady so sorry to interrupt um we hope you're enjoying today's show honestly

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Zito's playing Mario Kart. You think he's going to win a circuit? That's four straight. Yes. I think he's going to do great. Oh, wow. Will you potentially give him a little Piece of information that you have

Like kind of picked up throughout your years of being A professional athlete to kind of guide Him during this time when people are going to be watching Him perform and make sure he stays At a high level Cuban Zeke I'm sorry my bad I call you by your name Are you going to be playing in those shades

Yes Alright if you remember Ludacris The rapper was a part of My bad. I call you by your name. Are you going to be playing in those shades? Yes. Yeah, yeah. All right. If you remember, Ludacris, the rapper, was a part of – he was on the dais for a roast of somebody back in the day, and he kept his shades on. He didn't laugh at everybody. He didn't make any – he didn't like when people made fun of him.

So I'm just curious if that – where is your mindset going into this game? I will not throw any shade on Mario Party or on Mario Kart. Are you playing against people? No, just me versus the computers. Okay, I think you're going to be awesome. I'm not going to be baited into a motivational speech here to end the show like you guys always want to do. No.

AJ, this is the giveaway money. That's good. You guys are doing a good thing for the people. But Cuban Z, you look good. And you know what? Don't be scared to branch off and start your own thing, though. You're back. You're behind the screens. Youan z you look good and you know what don't be scared to branch off here we go start your own thing though like you're you're back you're behind the screens you're running the show here you know what why don't you get in front of the mic in front of the camera and stop being a behind the camera guy and get some of your shine that you deserve

i actually have a twitch stream yeah he's live yeah he's live for like five hours a night aj thanks for following the product really appreciate that no i'm old i don't follow twitch streams like that but i understand you can make a lot of money doing that, so I wish I did. Well, I mean, Zito has a show every night, five hours. You want to support the guy? Why don't you watch it? Five hours straight? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Maybe ten hours sometimes. He'll get really stinky up there.

What are you playing? What games? Every big game out there. Right now, we're on Call of Duty Warzone. And people donate money to watch you play these games oh yeah bits those biddies come flying in when zito's head on twitch is an interesting thing all of it's interesting especially with young kids growing up my kids all want a youtube page they want to put stuff out there they love tiktok right now they don't have phones but we let them use an old one to

make their little creative TikTok videos. They're pretty impressive. Is TikTok in your house right now? Why? Oh, God. AJ. AJ. Uh-oh.

What happened? Why? Are they not a sponsor of the show? They're a sponsor of China. Yeah, China actually sponsors that. Well, China pretty much runs everything. Check your clothing, Pat. Where do you think your shirts are made? Don tell me it's local vietnam there you go well

that isn't the vietnam government creating an app to get all these kids uh controlling your data yeah they don't do that do they that's what tiktok trust me they have all your info already mine oh yeah of course i don't even have all my own info. I've been in that studio, Pat. You have, in that studio alone, at least seven cameras that run $10,000 to $20,000 a piece. They can hack into those cameras anytime they want. No, we put a firewall up.

We got power tubes. Your firewalls are nothing compared to their firewalls. Oh, you don't know our fucking firewalls, AJ. AJ. Oh, this show was a lot of fun. You don't know our firewalls aj jay well this show was a lot of fun you don't know our firewalls and i'm just saying don't be paranoid about that it's already out there well it's not just us by the way there's a lot of people that ban their employees from getting on tiktok it just it wasn't us that started this is it due to productivity or is it due to the fact that they feel like there's

nefarious creatures behind it? Yes. Security risk. Deep state, dude. Deep fakes. Oh, my God. You're done for. So you better delete your Instagram, Facebook, Twitter. No, no, no.

Zuckerberg owns those. Don't worry about that. Zuckerberg's coding all the time. Oh, yeah. They're doing all good things for the good of society, right? They're not selling your info to all these companies. No, no, no. We're not saying that.

We're not saying they're good people. Drop the duh. But I'm just saying, like, with the no, no. We're not saying that. We're not saying they're good people. Drop the duh. But I'm just saying, like, with the TikTok, they're saying it's not good. I just want to let you know, whenever other people that are smarter are saying it, I just say, you know what? I'm going to parrot that one.

I'm on that side. All right, cool. My kids will continue to try to make little fun videos for themselves. I mean, it's not for really anybody else. Well, that's what you think. That's the problem, though. So it is. I guess all the people in China that are what?

They're uploading my nine-year-old daughter's info? Yeah. Creating a profile. Creating a profile for a deep fake, yeah. Good. Maybe they'll give her a good job someday. That's a very optimistic way to look at that. I respect it.

I need to get on TikTok. A lot of money over there. The NBA found that out earlier this year whenever they stopped watching. LeBron? Whenever LeBron didn't want to talk about it? Yeah, yeah. I'm going to...

I've decided... Taco Tuesday! I would have got out of that conversation quick. Alright, man. We've got to go. See you. Sounds good. Thanks, guys. Are you still homeschooling? Yeah. It doesn't stop, man.

What do you mean? It's Thursday today. What did you guys learn today? Was it third down day? It happened. Well, my wife does obviously all of the bulk of it and a couple other moms help out. But yeah, a lot of different. Learned about the state of Illinois today.

Oh, what'd you learn? It's crooked, corrupt, done for. I don't know. I came up here before they really got into it too much. I printed out all the sheets this morning. Go back downstairs and say roll birds and say that they give degrees to illiterate kids and that's good for society.

Roll birds. Illinois State University, shout out. Shout out. They'll be happy to hear that. All the little kids will write on their sheets tomorrow. Roll birds? Yeah. Do you quiz them, like trivia stuff? that it'll be something all the little kids will write on their sheets tomorrow roll birds yeah do you true do you like quiz them like trivia stuff uh i mean yeah at times why do you make them answer their questions in a form of question no it's not jeopardy over here i didn't know if

you're getting fun with it i don't know i didn't know if you're a boy yeah you definitely have to get creative with it bingo maybe you sound like a boring teacher. You should play sevens up, seven up. Oh, yeah. Heads up, seven up. There it is. You know what that is? You remember that? Oh, that's a fun game.

I'm a terrible teacher. That's why I'm not doing it. What do you mean? I help out where I can, but that's like I tell you before. That's why I'm not a coach. I'm not great at explaining things to people, and my patience level is not the greatest. I think you're selling yourself short. I think you're really good at explaining things to people, and my patience level is not the greatest. I think you're selling yourself short.

I think you're really good at explaining stuff. Depends what I'm explaining, Pat. Will you explain to me how I'm not supposed to run through a wall every time I talk to you? I just feel like I'm ready to just go and take on this. You're such a sarcastic just turd at all times. What? Me? No. No, you're not you're honestly you are so pat i tell you all the time though people ask me about you a lot you have a ton of followers young kids i sent you pictures the other day of these young kids that were

watching the show then they sent me a video when they saw you a game day you gave them a high five you made their whole life they made they made signs for you and they just happened to be watching the show on Monday or Tuesday, and I ran into their mom. But yeah, everywhere I go, people ask me about, well, when are you going to do something with Pat? How's Pat? What's he like?

Good guy. And I never have anything bad to say. I only have good things to say. Kirk Herbstreet pumping you up hard on the cruise this year, by the way. Kirk Herbstreet was saying good things about me? Oh, God, yeah. He didn't stop about you for five, seven minutes. Did he go talk to Urban to the Kirk and Urban talk?

Urban was on the boat, but we didn't speak about you. I should have asked Urban about you. Honestly, that was a missed opportunity by me. That's why I texted you while you're on the boat. I was like, is Urban Meyer on that boat? I would like to hear. And then obviously you must not have had service. I didn't get a response.

But like the service. She's legend, bro. No, we really didn't get a response. But like the – I had service. Jeez. Legend, bro. No, we really didn't, no. We were kind of isolated out there. I just wanted to say that to you. Yeah, I – I think Urban probably really likes you and respects what you're doing, honestly.

I like Urban, by the way. I think he's a good coach. He's done a lot of – Urban – no, you're talking about explaining stuff? Urban got on TV and he breaks down what's going on, the quarterback play. I don't know if you've seen any clips that he does. Urban does a really good job of explaining. He's a good coach, good teacher.

That's why he's good on TV right now. Yeah. I mean, he acted like he was still coaching in the games when he wasn't, but I think he is a very, very good coach. I think he is. I respect it. The semantics on the sideline a little bit too much. Oh, my heart. No, no, not that. I'm not talking about that. I think

he did potentially get sick, but I'm talking about at games that he was covering as a TV person with the whistle on the sideline during the game. I found that interesting, but it's probably hard for him to separate from that because those are his guys. Wait, was he wearing a whistle

when he was on the sideline of games? mean pretty much i mean it was he was he was in the games and by the way if i recruited all of them and those were my guys it'd be hard to turn it off but i mean they showed it like 45 times a game it was like all right all right come on here we get it urban meyer was their coach for a long time had a lot of success now he's on tv we get it we get it he just he made fun of me publicly a week ago now i gotta hate him forever that's just the way it gotta go yeah you really took that one hard i didn't i had to answer i had to there's no way i couldn't answer he didn't mention you he said even worse you know it was like uh subtweet alluded it was a subtweet it was a subtweet and it was like what do you want me to do? Like, I liked you, Urban.

Do you think he was that calculated? There's no way. No, he didn't know. And by the way, the guy that he was talking to, I don't think he had any idea what he was saying was going to go the way it did either. But things get tweeted to me very quickly. I find out about stuff rather quickly.

And if I didn't respond, I would have been viewed as a little punk-ass bitch. And I couldn't do that. I wouldn't have viewed you that way if you didn't respond. I think you would have. No, I mean you think I'd really look at someone that way if I felt like they got

slighted on social media and they didn't respond on social media? Yeah, because that's kind of like my thing is to respond. Your thing is whatever you want. It doesn't have to be your thing. Yeah, but if I didn't respond, it kind of like my thing is to respond your thing is whatever you want it doesn't have to be your thing yeah but if i didn't respond it kind of ruins my thing i don't think so yeah kind of ruins my thing i agree to disagree anyways i like urban now we're over it we've moved past it good and it was good for both shows good for his show good for your show game day everything you do that's not my show by the way that was my biggest problem was i this is not my show i am not a i

stand around for 245 minutes i'm on tv for three minutes and 25 seconds on the show it's not my show, by the way. That was my biggest problem. This is not my show. I stand around for 2 hours and 45 minutes. I'm on TV for 3 minutes and 25 seconds on the show. This is not my show. Why are you coming after me? I am not even on the show. I'm not even on the show. It's a compliment, though. You know it's a compliment, the fact that it's mentioned

and it was on his mind. That sticks out from you being on the show. Sticks out to him. So it's a great compliment to you. You're right. I was wrong. Thank you for that shout out, Urban. I appreciate you. Next time, just say his name. But by the way, if I have a

telestrator, I can do the same thing. But I don't get a telestrator. I get the boats to jump off of. Just want to let everybody know that. Alright. We're out of here. Can we roll that open one more again? Look good, feel good, feel good, play good. Play good, pay again? Look good, feel good, feel good, play good. Play good, pay good, pay good, live good, live good, die good. Thank you to everybody that stopped by this week,

listened this week, watched on YouTube this week. Thanks for allowing us to dance, monkey dance, through this entire time period. I can't thank you all enough. dance through this entire time period. I can't thank you all enough. I have no idea how long all this shit is supposed to last. Depending on which doctor you listen to, you have no idea. But we'll be doing this and we'll get through it together. That's what we do. Ty Schmidt, please play some independent music. Down, down, down We ain't never coming down Down, down, down

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