The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 203 - Andrew Brandt, Brandon McManus, Trai Turner, & Legend, AJ Hawk Stop By For A Chit Chat About Everythang. Let's Have A Thursday.

Episode Date: May 21, 2020

On today’s show, Pat is joined by former Packers VP of Finance, Executive VP at Vayner Sports, and host of the Business of Sports Podcast, Andrew Brandt. Pat and Andrew discuss how a potential salary cap reduction of 30-$80 million dollars would change the NFL, what the situations are like for the MLB and NBA to come back, and Andrew also breaks down the debt ceiling being raised as well what he thinks will need to be done between the NFL and NFLPA to get everyone on the same page (1:22-18:18). Next is another installment of McAfee & Hawk Sports Talk where Pat and AJ discuss everything going on in the sports well and chat some more about The Last Dance and how unusual it is for players’ personal trainers and staff to travel with the team, a future plan is cooked up to hold PMI yacht week in Tampa Bay for the Super Bowl, Gilbert Arenas winning $300,000 in the lottery, and Pat’s new weight lifting regimen (20:04-1:52:34). Also joining the show is 5x Pro Bowler and new member of the LA Chargers by way of the Carolina Panthers, Trai Turner. Pat and Trai chat about what he’s been doing during quarantine to get ready for the season with a new team, if he had any contact with Matt Rhule or any members of the Panthers coaching staff before he was traded, why he’s excited to be playing in LA, if he needs to force weight on himself to stay in playing shape, and how difficult it is to learn a new offense as an offensive lineman (1:52:36-2:00:59). Lastly, Super Bowl Champion and current kicker for the Denver Broncos, Brandon McManus joins the program. Pat and Brandon chat about the many changes he’s seen at coordinator, long snapper, and holder while being a member of the Broncos, Brandon helping Pat move into his second home when they were teammates together in Indianapolis, why Pat believes he will break the longest field goal record, what he’s been doing to stay in shape for the season, a couple of television show ideas he has, and what his relationship with Special Teams Coach Tom McMahon is like (2:01:01-2:11:35). Don’t forget to send in the hashtag #ThisIsWhereImAtPat with a picture of where you’re listening to the show for a chance to win some free merch. Come and laugh with us, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

hello it is thursday may 21st i can't thank you enough for allowing this show to penetrate your ears i know you got a lot of other options the fact that you chose this makes you honestly a fantastic fucking person i'm currently watching game six bulls jazz the movie shot by the people that did the last Dance I'm going to tell you I just watched what's this guy's name Normacek I don't know

him and Stockton on Utah look like two dads that should be running to YMCA instead they're in the finals of the NBA it's insane to watch basketball is a lot different now I think the world is very thankful that it got a lot better but talk about two savages underneath Dennis Rodman just put a board back after a pip and miss got sick watching it if anybody else watched it they shot it in a weird fashion it was not enjoyable it hasn't been enjoyable but I've been watching just because I feel like I want to learn

a little bit anyways got a good show for. Can't thank you enough for watching or listening. Remember, hashtag this is where I'm at. Pat, take a picture where you're at. We're putting something together pretty sweet for the end of this whole quarantine thing. I feel like we've gotten through together. If you like this show, please tell a friend. If you don't, just act like it never happened. All right, here we go.

The New York governor has said, hey hey pro sports should be looking to proceed without fans in our state california said the same thing florida said the same thing texas georgia nevada you name it there are places saying sports are good to go here let's just figure out how to do it without fans what will be the economic damage to the teams if there's no fans in the stands who should we talk to about that the man who hosts the business of sports podcast formerly an executive for the green bay packers formerly an agent alongside michael jordan's agent the man's been there, done that with everything. He just doesn't follow me on Twitter, Andrew Brand. Yeah, Andrew! Yeah!

Hey, Pat, I thought I'd change that. No, I just checked because I thought maybe you'd change it today. I wanted to check it out to see if you did it. And now I still have to hate you a little bit. I mean, it's just how it has to be. I guess I just follow the show, not you. You may have two Twitters, unlike me. No, I only got one.

But listen, now is not the time nor the place for me to hate you. I want to talk to you because your big brain is very, very knowledgeable in this particular world. Okay, so Schefter said that if the NFL was to go off without fans, the expectation for the loss would be $30 to $80 million hit to the salary cap. What the hell does that mean? Would they prorate everybody's contract so they have to renegotiate with the nfl pa how do you think the economic future of the nfl with no fans in a stance for a season would affect everything and everybody yeah we're getting a little bit of a preview of this pat with baseball because right now they're talking about all the testing and tracing and all the treatment that has to happen in baseball. That's the easy part. The hard part

is getting the player concessions they're trying to do with the MLB and the MLBPA. And as you've been reading, that's a problem right now. We don't even know if we're going to have baseball, not because of health issues, because of the money. And we've seen the comments from players about that. We're going to see some of that in the NFL. Now the NFL and NFLPA just did this 11-year CBA and I'm sure they all thought, okay, we wanted to deal with these people for a long time, probably like 10 years. But here we are. They got to get back to it because here's the problem. We're going to see a diminution of revenues coming up. It's going to be due to no fans in the seats. It's going to be the lack of sponsor activation for game day, no parking, no concessions, merchandise. People don't realize

how many revenues are wrapped up in game day. And without fans, you're not going to have any of that, including suite sales and premium seating and everything else. Your question, how much of total revenues is that for the NFL? Before I answer, I think it's a lot less percentage than baseball, basketball, hockey, because NFL has such media contracts that dwarf ticket sales, and the NFL has revenue sharing that dwarfs all the other leagues. My best guess is lack of fans, overall revenues is going to be anywhere from 15% to 25 percent of total revenues so if we're looking at a gross revenue situation for the nfl in a normal year of 15 billion dollars you know take that down 25 percent now you're talking about $12 billion. The players will feel that.

Cap is set in 2020. This cap is set at $198.2 million per team. Player contracts are set, but you and I know there's no magic to that. Teams may look to go under this year because one of my criticisms of the CBA, there's not enough threshold minimum spending to keep teams accountable. They can spend less and they're only judged over a four year period in terms of what they spend on players. is we know the 2021 cap is going to be a problem because they're going to look back on revenues from 2020. I'm just thinking and sensing NFL owners are going to go to NFL players before 2020 and say, hey, we got a problem coming. Let's try to address it now so we don't have the specter of having a lesser cap in 2021 than we've had in 2020 something that's never happened in the history of sports okay so a lot of things are going to have to be adjusted here so if the nfl and its gms and owners go to the players before 2020 and say hey we have to readjust the 2021 contract right now because we think the salary cap is going to go down but we also might

not have the money to pay you let's push out to 2022 instead let's readjust salary cap is going to go down, but we also might not have the money to pay you. Let's push that to 2022 instead. Let's readjust this. That's going to be a lot of renegotiation for everybody's contracts that they're going to have to do. And I would assume that the veteran players are going to take the biggest hit for this, obviously. Yeah, they are. And even in a normal year, you know that.

You know teams are taking younger players on those rookie contracts that are fixed, that are reasonable, that are easy to swallow, and cutting older players. That happens before the pandemic, and it'll happen after the pandemic. But I think veterans are going to be squeezed even more this year and next year because, as I said, there are minimum salary requirements, but they're not strong. Accountability is low. So we may see teams just offload veterans with non-guaranteed contracts to go light this year, know the cap is less next year, and we'll see all this happen. The reason I think it's going to happen before 2020 and not just wait till 2021,

because the effect of perception on the union, on players saying, you're taking a cap lower in 2021 than 2020 is not a good one. So this idea is smoothing. That's the word we use. It's usually used when there's a big spike and they want to smooth it along the way. That's what happened with the NBA. But now you're using it on a decrease and you're saying, let's get ahead of this decrease. And I think 2020 will be affected. That's so interesting to me. Can we talk about the debt limit being raised $150 million? Where is that coming from? Does the NFL have its own bank that you're allowed to go into? What is that money used for? And I didn't know that $350 million in debt money was available

to every single NFL team. Now it's been raised to 500 million. What does that mean? What is it used for? And how do people people how do teams get that money? The background is the NFL is the only major sports league that doesn't allow corporate ownership. You have corporate ownership all over other sports, you have private equity groups, you have hedge funds, you have all this corporate ownership, private equity in a lot in the NBA. NFL doesn't allow it because NFL has this kind of ancient tradition sitting around the table that I sat at for many years, even though I wasn't a billionaire. We didn't have an owner in Green Bay. So everybody's got a person.

Everybody's its family owner, a lot of family ownership. Having that one person that represents the team. This is the problem in Tennessee the past couple of years, finding that one person on the Titans ownership group and in Denver with the Broncos. So they haven't allowed that. So they have a debt limit because these aren't corporately owned teams. Their assets were $2 billion, but their own profit,

their own holdings besides a top level of owners really don't match that. So they've allowed teams to dip don't match that so they've allowed teams to dip into this bank debt program they've had now with future problems ahead and trying to cost saver the cost of safe cost of operations going forward they're allowing teams to extend that debt limit which they've never allowed previously I think the big thing, Pat, is, is this a one-timer for this pandemic? Are we going to continue to allow raised debt limits? Because listen, any business does not want all its principles being totally leveraged.

And that's why they've had this limit. So they want people coming in with money. You know, they got David Teppert on own the the carolina panthers he's a multi-billionaire this is what they want i think the big picture is down the road they're going to have to allow corporate entities to own these two billion dollar franchises how like so do they all have the same bank that they use how are they transparent like who's transparent with those numbers to say yeah you only took 350 million they didn't take 400 like who are they just have access to your bank account is that how that works like how does that how's it monitored in some ways there's this whole office inside 345 park avenue that people don't know about it's

called nfl finance and these are people dedicated to the financial pictures of all these franchises and they're working with the teams on their debt. And usually it's not the owner directly. It's the owner's finance people, how they're, you know, when you come into the league, you have to prepare this book about where your money's coming from, how much you have, what's it going to, how leveraged are you. And yes, if you're applying to be an NFL owner, the first thing they're going to look at is what's your liquidity? Because you don't have to dive into these huge debt limits. So you come in like Tepper worth billions, Stan Kroppi's worth billions, you know, all these owners.

The Rams are allegedly out of money is what they're saying. I thought the debt limit was raised specifically for the Rams who are building that $7 billion monstrosity in the middle of LA, which by the way, it's going to be beautiful, but it was expected to be $2 billion. Now it's triple. What is that? It's 350% of what they thought it was going to be. I mean, that is quite a swipe. Let's talk about transparency a little bit more though, because you mentioned the MLB talking about how the players are not going to be pumped up about this. And we always thought whenever we went into a CBA negotiation is we can never get a good guess on a revenue split because they don't have their books open. The Packers were the only team that opened their books

and they're publicly owned, so they kind of had to happen. Hey, were you there for that whenever the Packers opened up the bookstore and the CBA? I'll tell you, Pat, every year around June 15th, June 20th, I got a call from all the agents I was dealing with saying, hey, I know how to spend your profit. We got our own vision of how we're going to spend that. Yeah, we were the only team and every year I was involved in preparing those books a little bit and showing what we did. And the NFLPA has latched on to the Packers saying, hey, look, this tiny little team in northern Wisconsin is putting out, in my day, 20, 30, 40 million.

In today's day, 50, 60, 70 million. Oh, never mind. Imagine what the New Yorks and Dallas's and New England's are doing, to which the NFL would say, oh, no, no, Green Bay is unique. You know, they have a fan base that's international. They're unique. They're not like every other team, to which nflpa would say naturally okay show us everyone else and of course the nfl says no yeah they're not gonna do that well and now the mlb is starting to get into this

problem right because they're saying it's going to be a 50 50 revenue split and trevor bauer came out and was like well how do we know if it's a 50-50 revenue split unless the MLB teams are allowing us to see the books no professional sports team aside from the Packers has openly flaunted how much money they make that's the last thing they want to do how will the MLB get over that if the NFL has to do this it's salary cap has to go down how will that all happen I don't think I see that happening to be honest with you I don't either you know I covered both these negotiations and even even was involved before that with the NFL. That request has always drawn a stalemate. Owners are never going to do it. We can all debate why, but owners aren't doing it in football and they're not doing it in baseball. The baseball thing is front and center

right now, Pat. Here's what the problem is. Players thought, okay, you want an 81-game season instead of 162-game season? We'll take half. You know, if I'm supposed to make $5 million, I'll make $2.5 million. If I'm supposed to make $10 million, I'll make $5 million. Good. We're good. And owners have said, no, no, no. It's not that simple. We're not going to a straight prorated here. We're like you said, we're doing a share of revenues. And you know what that means? That means the MLB who has never, ever, ever been able to get what other leagues have, a salary cap, is using this pandemic to get what they couldn't get in bargaining. Them scumbags!

It's strategic. in bargaining. Them scumbags! It's strategic. So, we have a cap. And the players will get their share of the cap, and it probably won't come out to prorated half your salary. It definitely won't. It'll be less. But they know, besides those names you

see out in the media, the silent majority of MLB players, and I say NFL players, and I say hockey, and I say basketball too, just want to play. They want to play. They want to play. So this is where owners have leveraged once again. These are not CBA negotiations, but really, in fact, they are. They're doing a CBA based on the pandemic. And this is where owners can leverage players because of the short careers,

because they want to play, and because a lot of them feel invincible to the disease. Andrew, I don't know how much you can confirm this or not, but I saw somewhere where you were talking about the MLB players when they thought if they're making $10 million, $5 million, and just straight down 50-50. I read somewhere that if they do that, the MLB would actually lose more money doing that than not playing any games at all. Is that the situation with other sports leagues, too? Not that I know of.

The MLB is disadvantaged here because of their media. Primary baseball media, as you know, is local. Local. Primary NFL media and NBA media is national. NFL media and NBA media is national. So the problem with baseball is when you have all your revenues from media localized, you have this disparity. So I think what you referenced there is probably not New York, LA, but a lot of MLB teams are better off not playing than playing if they have to prorate salaries because their income from revenue from media they're not going to get ticket sales and now they're going to get media which is so much lower than the other teams

because it's all localized it's a problem i think baseball will come to a deal but i think it's going to extract a lot of pain from the players okay and i think the owners are saying that they're going to end up going in debt and losing the team and everything like that. It could be all PR spin for a negotiation to get it going. My question for you is, should baseball think about, since they're going to do a prorated salary and half a season, should they shorten the games too? Should we make them like three, four innings maybe? Let them take steroids too?

Maybe make this thing a little bit more electric so we can up the national audience and get a better deal yeah i mean i think we're going to see creative creativity throughout this throughout the next three months we're going to see maybe shorter baseball games maybe defined uh over what do they call extra names yeah uh you know maybe uh basketballs plates in sequentially and in their in their biosphere locations. I've heard about baseball. Maybe it's Arizona, and maybe in the Phoenix Stadium, they play triple headers every day.

Everything's up for grabs here. I mean, I don't think there is no normal here. Your business of sports podcasts is one that I listen to on a regular basis. Where can people find it? Stitcher, iTunes, Apple Podcasts, wherever you hear it. You know, the Michael Jordan thing was a revelation to me because, as you mentioned, I worked six years, started my career for David Falk. And just seeing the Michael that I saw the beginnings of back in the day when David was working with him. Yeah, that's him.

And that was a revelation to see because, you know, you can call it harsh, you can call it intense, but Jordan was just like, hey, I'm just not going to take any crap from these guys. I want them to be like me, and i don't care what people think uh and that was certainly revealed on the on the doc david falk is the man he's referring to his agent he's guided jordan's career to be worth billions and millions which is where you got your start at a tennis agency now uh executive vice president of vayner sports former packers vice president ran a world league team andrew hell of a run hell of a career and we can't thank you enough for stopping Executive Vice President of VaynerSports Former Packers Vice President Ran a World League team

Andrew, hell of a run, hell of a career And we can't thank you enough for stopping by to chat with us Always a pleasure, Pat Look forward to being on soon And I'll follow you I thought I did It's unbelievable Maybe it's the pandemic happening

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ones that you don't smoke and you put them in a box and send them to us in the box by the way it was beat up more than Ace Ventura Pet Detective beat up his UPS box when it got here. But we are thankful. We are thankful. I meant to put a note inside the box, but I got to the UPS or FedEx store, wherever I was, and I felt it was going to be awkward to write the note to you guys in front of the person that was trying to ring me up and do everything so yeah i'm glad you realized it was from me from the return address but you know i i smoked those cigars that are in there but there's some like bigger ones in there i know i wanted to send a zito and then some small guys like who cares you smoke a giant cigar

this little one like this little guy here look at our little guys there's an occasion for any kind of cigar like you'll hear some guys like oh it's a great like Like this little guy here There's an occasion for any kind of cigar like you'll hear some guys like oh, it's a great like cigar to have if you're mowing The yard that's a good one to have when you're watering the lawn like people have different like cigars for different situations They are in I heard some of these fat boys some of these hog cigars get you a little lockjaw situation So you like a little thinner one is that accurate? Yeah, I like those the gordo they're called like the the thick ones i'm not really into this my jaw like killing me guy loves a gordo well you were just doing a serious show what were you guys talking about who was it with was it with brady quinn have you ever met brady quinn what's he like he's my brother-in-law and i'm yet to meet him even though i've been married to a sister for 14 years now um seems like that's about right for him for him what is it a

shot you taking a shot at him i'm just saying meet his brother if you're eating me his brother-in-law 14 years that seems like that's a problem yeah that would be a problem if i really haven't met him no it was a i did a it was a zoom call set up from one of my former teammates, a guy named Ben Hartsock, was a tight end at Ohio State and in the league for a while. He had about five of us on from my freshman year. We won the national championship at Ohio State. Woo! Away!

Away! Away! Away! Away! Congrats on that. I mean, I know I walked right into that. I knew where it was going. But either way, I played along.

Is that the biggest crowd you've ever done that in front of? We're proud of you. Right there? No, I've done it in front of Game Day. I had a couple hundred. Oh! Hey, that's nothing. That's nothing.

I know a guy that did that in front of the whole stadium. Huh. What? What? Were you that guy? That was not me. No, I wish I was honored enough that did that in front of the whole stadium. Huh. What? Were you that guy? That was not me. No, I wish I was honored enough to do that. There's only the guy that did it that big-timed you, obviously.

When you play for the Buckeyes, just the way that came out of my mouth was interesting. You make a big tackle, okay? You got them shoulder pads on. Did you ever, like, as your celebration, go, O-H, like, as your celebration, go, OH! You know what I mean? Maybe a big sack or a tackle or something.

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Oh, my God. If you were mic'd up to the whole stadium, maybe. No, no, no. Maybe take the helmet off on the field. OH! So they could see it, you know? Everyone's looking like, what does he say? What?

They can't figure it out. And then what if only half the... The thing that I liked about the Ohio State fans when we were in that stadium, student section had a microphone, had a thing to start the chance and things of that nature they gave me a shout out a little bit of love i thought that was really taking the fanhood to the next level it's like okay we're all going to get organized

somebody bring a goddamn uh walkie talkie in this thing and they had a whole speaker system the guy was running it he had a suit on it was a real thing yes block o is where the student section is in the one end zone like the opened open part of the uh the stadium i guess it's not really open but yeah is that where i came in at yeah that's probably where i came down that big long ramp yeah yeah you probably came in through the visitors like down the visitors ramp it was the visitors side they were warming up on because that's where the visitors ramp and where the gate you probably came in was closer to where game day was set up yeah because we just walked straight from game day right over yeah with uh eddie george yep legend by the way he's a buckeye

got same license plate as you then um who else herbreet was already down there. It was us. It was insane, though. That place is insane. Ohio State, great fan base. Very rabid. And they will show up old and white in your Twitter if you get into a beef with a Buckeye. Will they?

Well, yeah, you know. But you and Urban, you've smoothed things over. You're good. We haven't talked, but he allegedly reached out to talk, and that's enough for me. I don't want to actually talk to you, but I get it. You tried. How did he allegedly reach out to talk, and that's enough for me. I don't want to actually talk to you, but I get it. You tried. How did he allegedly reach out to talk? Through a guy that knows him and knows me. And you said, nah, I'm good, pal.

Kind of, yeah. So now we have re-energized the beef. No, it's not a beef anymore. It's like he wanted to talk. You're telling me he's not offended if he reached out? He's like, you know what? I don't know if I've ever done this in my life, but but i'm gonna kind of have a peace offering to reach out to this guy and try to smooth things over and you said oh no i'm good bud hang out down there pa yeah yeah but

it's like all right it's cool with me man so now he has a right to be upset with you no he does not it's like i stopped i'm a fan of his again i we've stopped. Him attempting to smooth things over is enough for me. It's like, all right, he made an attempt. I don't want to have a conversation with the guy, but he's made an attempt. I'm done with it. I've moved on. See you later. You did the bigger thing by saying, hey, look, you don't have to apologize.

Don't even worry about it. The fact that you even reached out is enough for me. I get it. Yeah. What if he was reaching out to tell me, like, yeah, I meant what I said about you. Say that shit again. What if that's what it was for and I missed it? Or never know.

Never know. Damn it. What if Urban Meyer... Communication is always key. Any relationship, Pat, you know that. Communication, both ways. You need it. What if Urban Meyer was going to bury me in that text and I chose not to answer?

Damn it. Would you have wanted him to bury you? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. It would have been incredible. Well, for content. Everything's content with you. You think of that beef a little differently than Urban thinks bury you? Oh, yeah. It would have been incredible. Well, for content. Everything's content with you. You think of that beef a little differently than Urban thinks of it.

Yeah, yeah. I'm going to use it in a stand-up set. I don't know if Urban's going to do that. I think he could, by the way. I'm not 100%. I think he could. But I think Urban and I, we have, I think we've mutually agreed, hey, I'm a fan of yours.

You might be a fan of mine. I'm not sure. But let's just move. We're like two ships moving in a night going past each other. Starboard. Sucking. Honestly, though, Pat, next time I do see Urban, I see him a decent amount. Obviously, now not with COVID.

I am going to ask him about you. I want to get his. I can see him really loving you. He took a shot at me, man. It was a blatant shot at me, obviously. All right. I'm warranted. It did.

It was. It was out of nowhere. It was nowhere. I was just hanging out, not even getting paid to be on the show that he was talking about. That was his competition. He just takes a shot at me. It's like, whoa, buddy. I'm not even going to be here next year.

I'm not even going to be here next year. Wait, you didn't get paid by game day? No, I had an appearance thing, guess so you got paid no i actually lost 960 000 dollars working that's because you're flying private everywhere wouldn't have made it if we didn't literally would not i get it i get it man like new york on monday for get up then thursday night football on on Wednesday wherever that was and then game day Saturday and then New York we wouldn't have made it if we had to if we had to rely on Delta oh oh oh no way ah disgusting American ah United oh we would have been delayed on the runway still. Game day would have been starting.

We would have been sitting in a whole other town. You probably would have made it, though, because you said at game day you would get there. You'd sit in the back for two hours and 50 minutes, and then you'd come on and do your quick three minutes. No, they'd have me on early, so I'd have to say hello early. And then I'd sit for two hours, 45 minutes, and I'd come out, do my shtick, gimmick, get out. I can't wait to watch you on there this year with an expanded role. It's going to be fun. Do not put that out there because I'm not sure

that is happening. And I believe that is a real conversation that's happening behind the scenes right now. And we're just not fucking sure if that's going to happen because of the words that I just said right there, I believe. If I had to... Wow! You got tricks. You got any cigar tricks, pal? had to go. Oh, wow.

You got tricks. You got any cigar tricks, pal? You do like the. No, I don't, man. I wish I could. I could blow the, you know, the. Oh, oh, you can do it. You can blow this, pal. No, I tried it.

I tried every once in a while. And then I just stopped. Like, what am I doing? I blows like an Audi. Get it? No, I didn't even hear you. Someone was puckering their mouth, making an O sound in the background. It cut your voice off to me.

Everybody's saying it's you, Tony. It was me. It has come out that the guy who owned the Pizza Hut chain that delivered the pizza to michael jordan the night before said flu game which turned into food poisoning game he came out and said that it was one thousand percent not poisoned and he didn't even have five employees to deliver the food to begin with it was him and one other employee two employees delivered pizza hut which by the way i'm off of i'm not about hey i i, whoa, whoa. I still like Pizza Hut. I still think their wings

deserve a lot more credit than they actually get. They're a bit inconsistent because there is a chance it's a potentially poison, but said guy over there said the one that Michael Jordan got in the story that was told

on The Last Dance was not accurate. And I would like to say nobody knew it was this guy's fucking Pizza Hut. Nobody knew that this guy was involved in it. Michael Jordan and the boys were telling the story as, as they recalled it. And this guy decided to throw his name out there to be the guy. I am the person that delivered the pizza that got Michael Jordan sick. And I want to let you know that it was not

on purpose. We did not poison it. And because I would assume that he's gone around to his friends and his family. And he said, hey, deliver the pizza to Michael Jordan last night. Hey, I remember me and blah, blah, blah. We delivered a pizza to Michael Jordan. It was him and his boys. They were having a lot of fun. Michael actually spit on the pizza so nobody else could eat it because he thought it was so good.

That guy's been telling that story for so long that when The Last Dance came out on Sunday night, nobody had a worse Sunday night than that guy. Nobody had a worse Sunday night than that guy. Nobody had a worse Sunday night than that guy. All his friends, all his family, who he's been telling his story to for years, sending texts like, oh, you tried to kill him. You tried to kill him. And he had to come out. He's like, I did not.

I did not. What do you believe? Do you think Michael Jordan was poisoned by this pizza? Do you think that was a lie? Or do you think this guy coming out was just trying to save his ass for a lie that he told long ago? So you got to break it down for me why would the guy how would the guy know he was delivering pizza to michael jordan's room

so i asked that question immediately upon watching the last dance i would assume that maybe his name he used his name which wouldn't make sense because they check in he didn't call it in though his train he had like four guys in the room with him his trainers everyone was there they ordered the pizza for him may uh i don't know i have no idea how that's why i don't think it was intentionally poisoned did he get food or did he get what sick because of something that may have been like an old ingredient on there possibly i don't think it was like directly poisoned for him to try to make him sick for that game this might sound egregious But were you able to take

A credit card over phone in the late 90s I was going to say in 98 I don't think so I think it was probably cash Probably a cash deal So unless they knew who his trainer was And his trainer's name that would be a hell of a In depth thing because I didn't even know that son of a bitch existed Even if there was a credit card

Over the phone back then I guarantee you well first off they weren't using jordan's credit card you think tim grover his workout guy is like uh it's uh j o r uh d a n first initial m and then he reads off the let like the numbers to the card that's not happening yeah it's interesting i i that was the first question then we got past it And just acted like it was normal And then my follow up question now is Do you think this guy Who's told this story

For all these years Got his reputation Fucking ruined On the last dance On ESPN And didn't even Didn't even see it coming That guy had his jaw

Sitting on like this And he was just like Oh I can't wait to watch What they do for the flu game I saw Michael Less than 24 hours before that We were good friends He spit on the pizza

He said it looked so good Blah blah blah And then wham, they poisoned me. They tried to kill me. What a scene. Yeah, did Jordan always have like his little core group of guys around him? Like his couple security guys, his workout dude. Were they just in his hotel rooms at all times?

And in the locker room. It's not like he had his own area with his people around him. That'd be kind of interesting. I mean, it's Michael Jordan, obviously. Michael Jordan can do whatever he wants. But I've never seen anything like it like even with peyton who was obviously one of the most famous people of all time he might have had his own office somewhere in the building that none of us knew about but there was no like obvious separation michael

jordan was living in his own world with his own people you didn't hear a lot of teammates talk about hanging out with him was a lot of his people talk about hanging out very very interesting life that he had to live because of i assume everybody on earth knew who the hell he was so he had to change immediately but that was interesting in the locker room in his own area in his hotel room right after they win it's a bunch of media him on a piano this is that zambudism shit you know what i mean he's gonna enjoy the moment i was looking around i was like i didn't see any of his teammates in there it was kind of a i just didn't fully understand i don't think i don't think he's yeah i think people that's not normal like jordan obviously he's on a different planet than everybody else

but he like i came in brett farve was there he'd been there for 14 years in green bay or something at the time people always said brett had like his own locker room no he didn't has he had a normal locker in the in the locker room like everybody else but then he could go back and in the little, there was like an auxiliary coach's room for some assistant coaches. He could change there if he needed to get away from the media or whatever, but he didn't have his own people there. He didn't have his own security there. Like the team has security and all that, but not many people have their own guys that are with them that are separate from the team.

The closest I can think of is when Tom Brady had his Guerrero dude when he was in the facility and he was going to away games when i heard he was on the team flight i was like geez i've never seen that i've never been anywhere where a player can bring someone from outside of the team with them on all their trips well and the nfl is so hard-headed too it's like no our people are the best you don't need your people our trainers we pay our trainers we have our physical therapists we have our nutritionists we don't need yours so the fact that Guerrero got in there and then people were talking about how it was contentious between Belichick and Guerrero I was like well I could see that I mean I don't I don't know if because I know that some of the TB12 people would come to Indianapolis and work on some of the players in Indianapolis at their homes or whatever and there was always a

conversation like can they just do this at the facility after practice or whatever and a conversation would always end with the answer no they cannot be in here they cannot do whatever and then whenever tb12 bought their own thing up there in massachusetts and then they got linked up with the patriots that's when guys stopped traveling and stuff like that but it was always you're 100 right dwight freeney before uh the superbowl my rookie year he was coming off either a sprained ankle or a broken ankle or something. Nobody was expecting him to play. He had his, and they wore geese. Geese.

Like karate. Like karate geese. They were like these body guru type guys. And they wore geese. They were in the training room and in the hotel trying to work on him all systems were go to try to get Dwight Freeney back for the Super Bowl and it was becoming a story about how he hadn't practiced and how will Dwight Freeney play and all this stuff he couldn't even walk like the day before the game goes out gets a sack in the Super Bowl he hits a spin move on

somebody next level but they had guys in geese there was like my third or fourth time seeing them because these were dwight freeney's like dudes i saw him get on a plane one time i was in front of him full gee behind me full gee behind me by the way i was i wasn't first class flying in front of them but they were body gurus and they like figuring out exercises they were the only people i remember of my entire time and it was because it was a crazy circumstance where dwight freeney was trying to get back for the super bowl that was the only time i ever saw somebody outside the colts organization inside the colts building working on people because that is something that is very

very tight and that last dance thing i was i was very intrigued by all that as well were these uh body gurus were they wearing black belts with their geese no blue i think they're blue belts what do you have to do like well they definitely were elevated to black belt after they got freeney healthy enough to play in the super bowl well i think to get a black belt though you got to get like uh beat in right like i've seen uh when people get black belt you gotta walk by and everybody in the uh dojo hits you with the belt you know what i mean so i don't think you just i think you just float with a sprained ankle healing right to black belt but they had blue belts on i think the question is why are they wearing geese that was something i asked too but it's the white rolling is it are they laying mats out and they're doing some jiu jitsu in between i saw zero jiu jitsu but i did see geese

and i still to this day don't know and dwight freeney has been on our show before and he'll be on our show again that'll be one that I hope his brain remembers to ask about or somebody in the room, because I feel like they were doing something really special. I almost wanted to get geed up myself. You know what I mean? I was like, is there any way I could potentially get a gee? Maybe I get into the room here where all the people are

that seem to be very important to this operation. But he got back. I'm going to order you one. I sent you that box of cigars. Next thing coming, I might send you a gee. Well, I am an orange belt. What? Are you serious?

That's right. That's right. Okay. In what? The arts. What? Marshall. Oh.

Oh, my. Ever heard of it? Oh, no. With a cigar. With a cigar. With, my. Ever heard of it? Oh, no. With a cigar. With a cigar. With a cigar. People are saying my rear naked choke is one of the best, and I have clothes on.

Not naked. You get it. All right. Let's. I wanted to talk to you, but you were live on your serious show talking about the national championship, which, by the way, congratulations on winning a national championship and a Super Bowl.

I'm sure there isn't a lot of humans that can say that. You can, which is why you're awesome. That's a real moment there that we don't normally have. Devontae Parker and Michael Thomas got into it on Instagram. I was hoping that I could read like Devontae or Michael Thomas or Devontae Parker's, and then you could read the other one. Do you know what I'm talking about? Can you put it up for me?

Oh, yeah. Yeah, I then you could read the other one. Do you know what I'm talking about? Can you put it up for me? Oh, yeah. Yeah, I think we could probably do that. The check down, I believe, or Fox Sports or CBS, somebody put up there. It said, which is tougher? A, make a catch while guarded by Stephon Gillilock Gilmore, or B, break up a pass while guarding Michael Thomas. And Devontae Parker comes in off the top rope and says a then Michael Thomas says

are you Michael Thomas or my Michael Thomas well I said a as if I was Devante Parker so you're Michael Thomas you go you go you want me to be Michael Thomas? I thought you were Michael Thomas. I thought you wanted me to be Parker. A little bigger for you. Okay, he says, for you, yes. Go run some numbers up. Then you can talk. I lapped you and you've been in the league longer than me, first rounder. Ha, ha, ha.

Got some hard feelings there, brother? Question mark? Let me get targeted 300 times a game. Oh, in other words, you weak. They don't even put your name in the same sentence as me. Remember that? You're still not going to do nothing. It took you six years

and 17 weeks to have a good game. Quit crying, bro. Blame your parents, not no QB. Oh, I didn't see that. Quit crying, bruh. Well, we switched roles there. That's on me. That's 100% on me.

I'm Michael Thomas now. Who? You heard what I said, period. I didn't hear shit, playboy. You can't even get a seat at the table. Oh! Shit! Oh, shit! playboy you can't even get a seat at the table oh shit so that was the end yeah yeah yeah it's hard in the comment section because you know they kind of get jumbled up there i wish they would have done it on twitter so we could see the thread but i do like the fact that these two are going

after it you know too much lovey-dovey in today's sport I always said back in my day guys would fist fight instead of dap each other up afterwards, and that's the type of football I want. I'm sick of people being happy for other success. I'm sick of athletes being happy whenever they see somebody they haven't seen in years after a game, and they smile after losing a game. What are we here for? Is this not competition? Are we not trying to

kill the enemy? Why is everybody so nice to each other, AJ? You tell me. I don't know, Pat. As those guys, the voice that you just used, like back in my day, if we got beat by another team, I'd go out there and threaten he and his family's life afterwards. I might have taken pictures with him and trading jerseys with this guy. That's real, though. Back in the day, people used to really hate each other. Now everybody knows more about stuff and they're happy, genuinely happy for each other. And you know, they might have been roommates with a player and they haven't seen them in two years so

they dap each other up the jersey exchange thing is hitting the level that i don't think it should i mean come on we're kind of ruining it now you know what i mean i would would you feel comfortable pat if say you lost the game and you're out there like smiling like i always felt weird if you lost the game too like i want to see the guys i, but I'm not like over the top going crazy. I do not want to be caught smiling. You know the confidence? I feel like you are the delusion, delusional thoughts you'd have to have to be able to say you lose a game, you trade jerseys,

you take pictures with a dude, and then you walk in the locker room carrying a star player on the other team's jersey. You don't have your jersey, and you're like shirtless, and the coach is sitting there ready to kill the whole team because you just lost the game and you're like and you're holding odell beckham jr's jersey there's been a couple times where we've been losing or something in the fourth quarter and that's whenever they're scanning the sideline right to try to get players and i'm always worried that i'm gonna say something smart ass to somebody about our team because the season isn't over right for many fans many fans, like when you lose a game, it is your happiness is gone for a week.

At least you're mad. It's not your control. You spent money to either go to this game or something of that nature. So you're emotionally invested a lot for players though. If you lose week four, it's like, okay, we could have lost four straight here. We can't just be pissed off about this, but in the moment, you never want to be the person who looks like they're happy in the state of loss right because then it's a you get judged by your teammates you get judged by the fans you get judged by everybody so there's been a couple times where something will slip out of my mouth in the fourth quarter of like early in the season or whatever you know and uh obviously i'll get a response back from a teammate

that's like, shut the fuck up. And I'll start like cackling or something like that. And one of my biggest fears, as soon as those like smile leaves my, I'm like, oh no, please don't catch me on TV doing it. Like immediately afterwards, I'm like, cause you almost want to be like, that was not about this.

That was about like, almost if you're on camera, you got to explain the whole thing. You do not want to be the person that's caught smiling. Like ever, even if you're joking about something else that cannot happen it cannot happen and it does feel as if the being okay after a loss has become much more popular optically amongst players which back in the day i don't think that was something that was real like nobody want to be like okay i don't want to make maybe i am pissed off right i am not happy that we didn't but if if guys if it's early it's easy you can't just kill yourself because of a loss but boy i do not want to be the one that's

out there looking happy for this because i gotta go right into a locker room where i probably shouldn't be anyways i'm not athletic enough and then everybody's pissed you're 100 right but now it's a whole different world you know it's a bad look too and mike mccarthy put a an end to it uh early in my time in green bay is when so a team travels to play an away game usually they get there we in green bay we would always leave on saturday around noon and we're playing the nfc north a lot so the flight's 40 minutes and you have a big chunk of time where guys can go out to dinner a lot of guys go shopping especially if you're in chicago and you live in green bay obviously you don't have as many shopping options and then guys you could lose a game and guys will walk on the plane and they're carrying four like burberry bags

of like of all this the stuff that they bought in town they now they may have bought this for their wife and their mom and all these people may not be for them but that was happening a little bit i remember mccarthy shut that down real quick in a team meeting. It's saying, like, I don't want to see you walking on a plane with any of those damn grocery bags. I don't think he said – he might have actually said grocery bags just because he was so mad at seeing guys with huge – like they went on a shopping spree to go play these teams

and we lose a game or something. And I always told guys, I'm like, first off, I wouldn't want to have to carry that stuff around. Oh, by the way, they got to carry it from the team bus, from the hotel, into the stadium too. In the locker room, which isn't big. Locker room's not big. I was like, hey, you know, first off,

I know you're spending tons of money at these places because they're overcharging you for everything. Just ship it back to your house. Like, you can ship it directly from that store. Like, you don't have to carry this stuff everywhere with you. No, are you kidding me, man? They charged me $30 for that. I'm like, well, how much did you spend?

$14,000. Oh, cool. You don't want to pay $30 to ship it? Hey, you're not going to get got there at the end. You can't get got. Man, Coach McCarthy's hating. We don't got one of these. I couldn't even imagine the reaction whenever Mike McCarthy wasn't allowing

them to bring it on. Oh, he's a fucking hater out there. What does he want from me? He didn't even imagine the reaction whenever Mike McCarthy wasn't allowing them to bring it on. Oh, he's a fucking hater out there, man. What does he want from me? He didn't even care. Honestly, I think he even said, like, ship it back or have someone, like, don't bring that on the plane and on the team bus. There was a player we had. I won't say his name just because he doesn't. I mean, he kind of does, actually, with the story I'm going to tell, but it's not my my job to do that but we had just lost and got knocked out of the playoffs or whatever which by the way genuine

piss off from everybody should be right i mean that's your season's basically over now you got a couple weeks left where they mean nothing there's no playoff checks coming so whatever your motive is if your motive is money okay we're not making more money this year if your motive is love of the game and legacy and wins, okay, we're not doing that. Every single style of motivated a player should be pissed off whenever you're out. Came on the plane. He was on one phone, on the phone, while holding another phone. Had his bags that were just dragging across people.

And then he started shit-talking people for dice debts that were owed, gambling debts that were owed, while he walked all the way to the front and then sat down, talked on his phone loud, hung up his phone, and then put a pillow on and thought he was going to sleep. And I was like, this guy, bad guy. Oh, geez, the locker room came up. Quite a conversation happened with that man, and he was no longer on our team after that trip.

But it was a pretty quick little out. But those types of moments, you learn a lot about people real quick. We're talking on speakerphone on the team bus after a big loss. That's the worst. Like, it's so loud, too. Yeah, man, you didn't see me? You didn't see me on that third play, the fourth drive, man? I almost had a TFL there.

I had to do what I had to do. You know, business decision. Had to do what I had to do. Did you see Carl Malone go on the bus after they lost their game six, I believe it was? What was he doing? Carl Malone got on the Bulls bus afterwards and dapped him up or whatever and said congrats

and we'll see you next. Did you ever go to the other team's buses? Never. I don't know where the other team's buses were. Me neither. One time I think I got a beer from the Cardinals because their Cardinals, remember, the Phoenix, that University of Phoenix Stadium, their parking lot is right outside where you are.

So when B.A. was there, he was having like tailgates afterwards. So I got like a beer there. Leckler used to give me beers after every single game, but they were always just show up at my locker. Me and Vinatieri's locker was very nice of him. But other than that, like Carl Malonga, there's stories of like Larry Bird going to Michael Jordan

and stuff like this. I would assume Peyton and other people probably had back, but I don't know if anybody else really had that access to go over to the other locker room. Kansas City, when Vrabel was in Kansas City and he was still playing, we played them in the preseason. And Braves, after games, would sit in his car and have like a little tailgate. And he brought a cooler and he would have beers

and wait for the traffic to die down before he could go home. And I remember he – I stood out there for a little bit with him, but it was the most awkward situation. First off, I was somewhat young, maybe in my career. And our team buses are lined up. There are players lots right next to our buses. Braves is sitting right here having beers, and I'm like, can I have a beer? My coaches are right behind me on the bus.

Everybody's right here, the whole team. There was maybe one other player on my team with me and Braves and a couple of the Chiefs guys, and it was only preseason. I remember how awkward I felt that they were all – I just felt like mccarthy and the rest of my coaches are staring daggers through me because i'm standing here with brave well they were because the buses all faced the kansas city uh team lot because you walk out of the stadium team lots to the left buses or buses are to the left the team was to

the right there colquitt used to bring me beers now that i think about it because that's literally i in my head i see him walking out of his little tailgate he was having and he had like 45 kids or whatever and then he'd bring like a local brewery ipa to me or whatever and he was like here you go hey for the bus ride to the airport here you go well thanks man appreciate that good person we had a couple coaches uh that would stand after we would win an away game they'd stand and smoke cigars out by the team buses we had people that did that out by the airplane who oh geez on the team really yeah so while they're loading the plane and all that which takes an hour and a half almost oh nobody talks about that you are sitting there forever and it's like no offense equipment managers are the backbone of a team as are athletic trainers but they've had a day where they had to set up an entire sideline

at like 6 a.m., then they had to go through the entire game where they're packing everybody's shit, then they have to pack it all up, then you get to the airport, now they've got to unpack these trucks. There's three trucks worth of shit they've got to put in there. And then whenever they're done, then we can leave. You're sitting there for like an hour, hour and 20, and those equipment managers just fuck from what, 4 a.m. basically until the plane.

And then afterwards, they have to take it all off. To the stadium. To the facility or to the stadium, yeah. And then they got to wake up the next morning and our shit better be clean or get the fuck out. Is it like pads and jerseys and everything? Or like, what are they carrying? All your huge bags that you pack up after the game.

There is massive, massive amounts of equipment they take on a way game. Just for the training room alone. Think of all their equipment and the huge. It's like a traveling tour. It's like Pearl Jam's on tour with the amount of cases and things that they have to bring with you just for the training room, let alone all of the other stuff. Backup cleats for everybody. Backup pads for everybody. Backup helmets, balls.

Like five clothing options for each coach. Damn. the coaches yeah they gotta think if it's a cold game we have a cold game they would give all of our coaches these huge snow boots giant coats like just massive amounts of things that these guys have to do and they gotta move that entire village out of a truck put it on a conveyor belt to go into the plane and And then when that doesn't work, they got to run up conveyor belt and throw it in. And now the team is either miserable sitting on that little fart bucket or they're wide open. And when the equipment managers walk in, it's like, here we go. But you're there for an hour. Those late night games, you don't get home to like 4 a.m., 5 a.m.

Sometimes it's very wild. Do you guys pack your own travel bags oh yeah so like if someone forgets they could actually forget their helmet well they all get checked i'd assume by the equipment managers but i i packed everybody at our place had to pack their bags on uh saturday morning uh before walkthrough had to have your bag finished so i'd go through it my shit was very easy but hey maybe i won't bring out some new cleats. I had a pair of cleats that sat in my travel bag for two years. I never busted out. I was always thinking one morning I'd wake up and be like,

yeah, I'm going to put those sons of bitches on. They were bright whites. They were very loud. And I never had the confidence going into the game that I was going to hit the ball well. So I'm like, eh, not today, pal. I'm probably going to shank one. Don't want to fuck it up.

Let's go back to here. What about college? Was college the same deal? Yeah, you packed your own probably going to shank one. I don't want to fuck it up. Let's go back to here. What about college? Was college the same deal? Yeah, you packed your own bag in college, I believe. Yeah, I always wanted to pack my own bag, but we would leave it unzipped on Saturday morning, and they would kind of double check to make sure you had your helmet, your big stuff.

You could easily forget cleats or something, and hopefully they had a backup somewhere for you. That's like whenever I travel now. My lady a couple times has tried to pack for me and i'm always like don't like just don't do it because if something is forgotten i would like to be mad at myself and not blame somebody else i feel like that's the same thing for the football it's like if you forget your pads that's on you for not bringing your own fucking pad now granted the equipment managers guess i guess they should have looked

through everybody's bag it's not their job job, though. That is not their job. You're a grown-up. You're a professional. You're getting paid to do this. It's your job to pack your own stuff. I always pack my own stuff, AJ. Don't worry about that. I would never want anyone packing my stuff for me.

Same, like you said, if I'm going on vacation or something, I would never ask my wife to do that. I wouldn't want her to do that. She doesn't know all the stuff I want. Sam was just trying to be nice, I i think it was back whenever we were doing those six planes a week this fall it cost me 960 000 i'd like i'd be coming out of a coma like i don't know probably had two hours of sleep in the last three days i'm like all right gotta go get on a fucking plane here and she's like i got your bag ready i'm like i'll pack it please do you feel better physically pat now that you haven't been

flying all over the country oh my god i feel like a human yeah i mean it was an awesome ride and we while we're in the middle of it we were talking very much about like this is insane have no idea how we're doing this it was just like every day was like all right how do we get enough energy to get through today oh and you're on for four hours five hours it's like all right here we go here we go here we go and then get on a plane it's like all right i can't sleep on planes so i'm up get home pass out wake up do it again but yeah in the middle of it we realize probably never going to be able to accomplish what we're accomplishing right now body feels like it's going to quit and i think i had the rona yeah i think i had the rona and that is we were in new york

every week oh yeah i think you did i think i had the rona go get an antibody test then okay i mean i will but it'll tell you if you had it if you have the antibodies then you had it everybody was just telling me like oh this is this is what football season's like whenever you're doing this but there was a time there for wait no wait hold on nobody was doing the schedule you had though so who how could someone say that to you well adam amin was close i mean i mean play-by-play guys when they're doing multiple sports yeah like they'll be doing they'll do three basketball games during the week and then do a football game on sunday yeah the only he didn't have the daily show which is the only difference but he had to prepare for like four so he was a good person for me to lean on to be

honest with you because i was like there was a couple weeks like going into a game i'm like adam i am fucking dead right now, dude. He's like, yeah, your body's going to want to shut down and stuff like that. He's like, I'm tired basically every day. You just kind of got to power through it. But there was like a 10-day experience

there in the middle of that thing where I was sleeping on the planes, which I never did. I bet you I had the old Rona there for a little bit now that I think back on it. Because we were literally brazos flopping into the middle of where this coronavirus was at. World Trade Center in New York City once a week.

Just like, excuse me, can we get as much of the Rona as possible? And I was licking walls and handles and stuff. I might as well have just been way out there. And everybody knows I'm good. I'll dap up anybody out there. So I think I might have had the Rony there for a little bit. Probably have some antibodies. That's good news.

And that hotel we were staying in, a lot of international people were staying in that one, too, every week. Yeah, so we probably had the roni. Probably. Did you have any tornado situations yesterday? No, but it was fucking coming down. It was like a flood out here in Indiana. Did you guys have a... Well, we have flood warnings right now in Ohio.

And yesterday, my neighbors have a pool., we have flood warnings right now in Ohio. And yesterday, my neighbors have a pool. Luckily, they heat it nice too. My kids, three of my kids, I was over there watching them swim. And the tornado sirens went off big time. Everything got dark, boom. We got back to the house and we saw tornado warnings close to the area. We didn't see anything or whatever, but it's been terrible weather.

Did the house shake? No, it wasn't that bad. I've only experienced that one time. It's insane. That was what a couple weeks ago when was house was shaking. That was the first time I was like, Oh, shit, this is it. Like this is actually everything I've seen on the weather channel. And I've seen in the movies. Shout out twister. Shout out Jim Cantore. Anytime I've seen those things on TV. I'm always I guess that that's crazy that that's happening

i'm thankful it hasn't happened to me in indiana the tornadoes come and go around here not as much as tornado alley out there to the west but just a couple weeks ago you know it it sounded like a train choo-choo was coming through my damn woods and my house started shaking there's nothing you could do but just sit up there and look and just hope that it doesn't take your house it takes somebody else there's nothing you can do with that well you can go to a safe room in the basement it doesn't have any windows well yeah of course i did that with all the animals too i saved them mom of the year did you actually go down there like it got bad enough where you actually went down into your basement oh yeah it was bad bad i mean we're talking house was rattling i actually did a video

before we are because teddy our 10 toad cat the big one looks like Garfield lives like Garfield is Garfield basically how many toes should it should they have he has thumbs I guess thumbs aren't normal he's a Hemingway thumbs on his front so I guess it's only supposed to be four up there I don't know what cat's paws even I don't know okay well he has thumbs it's not normal his hands are like yes but he's the oldest and. And he was not about it with that tornado. As soon as that shit started coming, he went under a bed and he was hiding. So we got all the other animals downstairs, locked them in a room together. And then we had to get Teddy out from underneath the bed.

And Sam was doing mom of the year shit. She gets this cat out. It's a fool. Teddy's not happy. He's got thumbs latching on. She grabs him, takes him downstairs. I'm right behind her. You know what I mean?

And I did an actual video of the house it was like uh it was like me going like well it's been a good fucking run house like i even gave like uh like an emotional i've really enjoyed what we've done together i mean i haven't been upstairs in probably a year or two but i appreciate you guys and then i ended in sprint downstairs i thought it was gone it was the house was moving i mean it. It was an insane time to be alive. We asked the question the other day, would you rather be around where tornadoes are? Would you rather be around where hurricanes are? And the overwhelming answer has been, you'd rather deal with tornadoes than hurricanes. I guess hurricanes are just a complete different

animal. Come out of nowhere and they just destroy everything but tornadoes You don't know when they're gonna pop off either You get a little warmth get a little chill you get a little front hitting each other all of a sudden they start tango and Dancing a train comes through the woods and you gotta get a cat out from underneath a fucking bed But a hurricane I guess it just takes everything out Hurricane would be I think scarier. It seems like it does so much damage for people that are on the coast around it yeah tornadoes i mean growing up in ohio i've been around tornadoes i've been lucky and haven't had any come like touchdown near me but was it a year or two ago in ohio right where i grew up big tornado tore through there and damaged so much stuff just like north of where

my parents live and took out whole chunks of things like all the buildings down everything they come out of nowhere too yeah they i mean they can kind of warn you right but it's like you said though what are you gonna do go sit in the basement you don't know if your house can get ripped up you know it's really interesting before phones how did anybody know about the tornado warning because they're dumb little transistor radio or whatever okay because they do it on tv but the tv is out obviously because the wind yeah there's no the sirens that's the really only the two and you have no idea where it's at if you hear the sirens i just thought and you got don't be fooled either because the sirens a lot of times get tested like the first monday of the month wednesday i think

really yeah jeez i mean at what point did the boy cry wolf that the fucking wolf showed up huh pal but you should have an idea after like three or four mondays you got to feel like oh wait it's perfectly sunny everything looks great there's not even any wind and these sirens are going off wonder what it is oh man this tornado might come out of nowhere and hit me all right i have a question for you you played played football in high school in Ohio at about the same time LeBron James would have played football in high school in Ohio. Two years, 23 touchdowns. His freshman year, he started in a playoff game, broke a bunch of records. He has now come out on his uninterrupted YouTube show and said that during the 2011 lockout of the NBA, Jerry Jones made him an offer to be a Dallas

Cowboy and him and his trainer were training to get back into football. Some haters have come out of the woods and said that he's only saying this because of the last dance saying that Michael Jordan would have been a great MLB player. So LeBron is coming out saying he could have been a multi-sport athlete. Those haters are wrong. I think LeBron was just letting us all in on a little piece of information that in 2011 he was thinking about going and playing for the Cowboys. And I, for one, think, although he is a master of flopping, that guy will flop all over the place to the benefit of his team. I think if he would have got his body right,

I think he would have been a good wide receiver in the NFL. And I think old Tony Romo, old uncle tony backyard football tony romo commentator would have hit the 280 pound six foot eight guy streaking down the sideline just like he did to these gentlemen in ohio high schools well i i don't know i'm torn on what i think what kind of nfl player lebron would have been. So to get his body right for football, what does that mean? He has to put on 20 pounds or so? I think he's probably got to put on a little bit more.

At that time, remember, everybody's thinking about skinny LeBron right now. LeBron wasn't always this skinny. He did a complete body transformation whenever he was deciding that he was no longer going to take games off, I think, right? Because he used to rest. He used to to rest it happened in Indiana all the time and now he's come out against it because he's gotten his body into a different shape I think where he can go the long haul but I think back then whenever he was that big what do you do just add some probably a little bit of a little bit of padding here for any of these rib shots that could potentially

happen with safeties flying over the top he was was biggest in 2011, too, when he was with the Heat. He was massive then. He said he just did a little more bench. Would he have been a wide out or a tight end? A little bit more what? He said he added a little bit more bench, and then he would do a little bit more sled pulls. Well, that's the thing.

You've got to get a big old chest. You know what I mean? That's why Antonio Brown does so much chest. If you're going to be a wide receiver, did a couple more sled pulls. By the way, in the red zone, there's a touchdown every single time. It should be.

I want to know how he reacts when he's getting not only jammed at the line of scrimmage, how does he catch the ball in traffic? That's the toughest thing to simulate to try to see. When you have a defender underneath you and you know the safety's coming over the top, are you going to be able to extend yourself and catch that ball when you're going to get blasted in the ribs?

Are they going to take your knee out? Well, Jerry Jones knows that you put him in motion so he doesn't have to worry about the jam at the line. Okay, we'll put him in motion. And then, obviously, they're just going to run his ass on deep balls, I'd assume, right? But red zone, I guess you can't do that as much. But I would assume, and this is just me maybe being a bit ignorant. That's a wild football threat. That's classic high school, by the way.

That kid holds the ball up here whenever he's dropping back, by the way. Fundamentals on that quarterback are probably off the charts. What's St. Vincent, St. Mary High School, all-state wide? That's his high school. What is that, single A? Well, in Ohio it goes Division I, II, 3, 4, 5, and 1 is the biggest. I think they were Division 3, maybe? What was Centerville?

1. It is a difference. It's definitely different from 1 to 4, 1 to 5, but I mean, regardless of wherever LeBron is playing high school football, it's completely unfair how gifted this dude, how big and strong and fast he is. No matter what division he's

playing in i mean he's gonna be a stud i think he would have been able to figure it out i just for some reason i think he would have been able to figure it out now contract wise they wouldn't have been able to figure it out he said he still has the cowboys contract in his office framed from old jerry jones because he's a big cowboys fan but i think he would have been able to figure it out and uncle tony romo would have loved him he should have i mean yeah i think he would have figured it out as well. But just because someone's fast, just because someone's big doesn't necessarily mean it's going to relate into NFL success. Look at Brock Lesnar tried to make the Minnesota Vikings.

He didn't make the team. And he played football in high school. I know he was coming back from a long layoff from football. He was also trying to play D-line. No, I think it's a different world. I think there's a lot of leverage issues with brock right like what like isn't there a lot of games that get played on defense like i think in the hand-to-hand combat their offensive line defensive line i think that's potentially the hardest one to get dropped into because of the

leverage and the games that could get played and things of that nature and i think brock if he would have understood that stuff a little bit more through reps and experience, he would have been able to make it. But a wide receiver, I think it's see ball, get ball, isn't it? And by the way, I saw him play flag football against Kevin Durant's team, and he had six interceptions. He was a ball hawk out there. Yeah, I mean, he probably would have been a stud if he would have stuck with football the whole time.

Yeah, but I mean, it would have been fun to see, and why not? Jerry Jones is smart. Send him a contract. Try to get him to come out there and just build the aura of the Dallas Cowboys even that much more. Jerry should send him another contract. Like, hey, LeBron, once this basketball season's over, do you want to come play for us this year?

Mike McCarthy will get you the ball. How would that have to work? Because you know he's selling jerseys. You know he's selling merch. You can't pay him that much, though, because he hasn't proven because of your salary cap and you haven't paid. Jerry just has it. You've got to have an under-the-table deal.

Like, hey, man, your salary is going to be like $3 million a year. Don't worry. That's nothing. Once all this is done, you're done in the NBA, whatever, we can't do it now because of the salary cap and how it works. I'm going to give you a little piece of the Cowboys. Give you some equity. My hands don't get cramps when I'm writing equity to a 6'8", 280-pound wide receiver

that can sell jerseys and sell out a stadium. Or let him use a yacht for two weeks. That's worth $800,000. That yacht is so nice. Fucking Jerry Worth. Actually, it's probably worth more than $800,000. To lease that yacht for a week is probably $500,000.

That Airbnb is probably north of a mill if you want to get in there. North of a mill. Yeah, but doesn't Magic Johnson always go and charter one of those giant super yachts and takes like Steve Harvey and they go on a trip around the Mediterranean? I think it's like $300,000 a week or something crazy. Really? And if you've watched Below Deck, you've got to give them an envelope of $50,000 cash tip on top of it when you get off the boat.

So it's $350,000 for a week in a super yacht? You can go look it up. There's sites online where you can look up what it would cost to lease certain yachts. Now we're talking. Boys, we might have super yacht week. They got good Wi-Fi on those things or what?

Yeah, you pay for it but yeah you can get it let me know i want to i want a helicopter into one of the ports and come see you oh okay we can get the chopper sponsor coming in on the on the chopper brought to you by safe auto is uh aj hawk coming in on the chopper? Just like your show, Game Day. Wheels Up comes in and brings the guest picker in, right? Yep. I can't wait to watch you this year. Expanded role.

I just don't know if that's going to happen, A.J., and I feel like we're potentially setting people up for a letdown. Okay, to be fair to people listening and watching, I don't have any inside info. I'm just throwing this out. What I think should happen. Me neither, which I think needs to be stated. Pat, would you like to... Everything's in a state of flux right now. Nobody really knows what their crews are going to be,

what their shows are going to look like come fall. They're just trying to figure it out as we go. Hey, we know, don't we? Oh, yeah. We know what this show's going to look like and these shows are going to look like. You're fucking looking at it, pal.

Hell yeah. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. Maybe a super yacht week. Ever heard of it? Hell yeah. And some other stuff, too. We don't have to mention it

because we don't know what we're going to do, but we got some other live things that we may do throughout the season. Hey. Hey. That was a good idea, by the way.

My lady thought of that for the one that we put in the group text there. Nice. Oh, yeah. About the watch. Yeah, yeah. I appreciate you guys adding me into that group text. Do you want to be added in that group text? Please do not do it.

Absolutely don't. I despise group text. Too late. You would hate our audience. It's a loud group text, too. There's a lot going on. You're going to be upset when it says, AJ has left the group text.

Oh, we'll call you back. We'll save you. Yeah, we'll bring you back. Yeah. All right, you can add me if you want. We'll fucking bring you right on back. I've got a fine one for you, Pat. Fish on!

There's cheap ones for like... Oh, fish on! Fish! Fish! Fish! Fish! Fish! Fucking lost it.

There's cheap ones for like $200,000 a week, And then they obviously go up to like a million dollars a week. I found the one you want, though. It's called Legend. Can you put it up there? Oh, yeah. Holy shit. We get that boat right there? That looks like the one that Leo was taking over to Switzerland or whatever.

It's approximately $5,000 or $3,000 for the summer. The whole summer? The whole summer. For a week. No, that's a week. It says a week right there. Can you go through some photos there? Can we scroll through some photos up here?

Where are we going to go on this yacht? Fucking Alaska, it looks like, pal. There's your chopper. That's like an explorer yacht. Like, they're going out to look for the Titanic. Oh, look at us. Wow. Oh, look at the chopper.

The little pad. What? Oh, yeah. It says legends. Oh, a piano? A piano. We'll bring Michael Jordan in No sex in the hot tub No sex in any of the hot tubs

By anybody Have a little respect for the super yacht What You can't have sex in a bar if you need to I've decided You can if you have sex there You can't have sex Get our little cruise line here how much is it uh 500 000 yeah 500 000 a week that's a lot of money man we could do it

man get it get a bunch of sponsors to help out we're gonna have to get a bunch of sponsors oh my god oh there's a is that my room my room? That's a massage room. Massage room. Oh. Yeah, it comes with masseuses. Oh, my God. Zito, how many does it sleep? A hundred, it looks like. 26 guests. Jesus.

Let's divide that by 500,000. How many crew? Well, we got to pay the crew, huh? Well, you're supposed to tip them at the end. Probably 550. I tip everybody, by the way. It's everybody. It might be a fault.

It says right here, not for charters to U.S. residents while in U.S. waters. So we would have to take it international. What was that? That was just one big thing. I did see it right there. So you can't dock in the U.S.? It seems like we're going to have to get Jerry's. Even better than international waters, anything goes.

Does Ursa have a yacht? Can we not try to rent Ursa's yacht? He's got to have a yacht. Shad Khan. Let to have to get Jerry's. Even better than International Waters and anything goes. Does Ursa have a yacht? Can we not try to rent Ursa's yacht? He's got to have a yacht. Shad Khan. Let's get Shad Khan's. He'll give us a deal. Hey, that yacht, he's got his full spa in there. That's just when you got too much money, right?

Too much money. You're like, you know what? I want to build a building on the water that I can take my helicopter to. And if I want to get cute on little jet skis, I can go out the bottom of it like i'm a little bird coming out of a nest you know what i mean is that what you're doing you have to have too much money to have one of those giant yachts because some of them will be like 200 million to build but then the upkeep like you have some of those big ones have a crew of 20 25 people that are on there year round you're paying all the upkeep all year long oh hey we had to fill it up with gas write us a check for 400K.

So it's just strictly so you can lose money. It has to be a tax reason that they're doing it. Has to be. How can you spend $250 million on something like that? Because you got it. You got it like that. You ever go down? Remember when you took those cruises when you're trying to elude the drug testers?

When you pulled into port, did you ever see some of those super yachts parked out there that was crazy atlantis always has a bunch of when we played in the super bowl down in miami oh because super bowl weekend just like this last week down in miami super bowl week oh my god i think i saw one of bill gates's and like maybe the the second and commanded microsoft the guy that owns the clippers now i think he was balmer steve ball jimmy johns you should see fucking jimmy johns yacht that guy sells sandwiches he's what about papa john does he have one pop john i assume has one down there in louisville probably patrolling the river down there excuse me you eating 40 pizzas a month don't think so get the fuck out a couple islands in

the caribbean aj probably like to check out. Which one? Virgin Islands, maybe. There's one that I'm very intrigued by. Oh, yeah? What's that? It's being held up, though, with the estate and whatever. What are you talking about? Little St. Jeff's. Is that what they call it?

St. John? St. Jeff's? Yeah. I think it's St. James. No. Little St. Jeff, I think he called it. I don't think he was a saint at all. Who's he?

Are we talking about the same? We know we could probably get a good deal on that island, can't we? That is Little St. Jeff. I don't think we can buy that. That's not a place we want to be associated with. You're right.

There's bad karma there. A lot of bad there, yeah, from what I've been told. What are they going to do with that island, though? For real, that's a very desirable island, I would guess. Are YouTube's about to get dropped out because of that, by the way?

Yep. Error. Hope you feel good about it. What did I say? Stream ended. You can't bring up a guy's name? You know what you said. What did you say, Z?

No, the YouTube people were just saying stream ended. Error. Let's go to 20,000 bucks a person for the 26 people, obviously. That's pretty nice, though. That's not bad. You're going to find 26 people that are willing to pay 20K for a week? Yeah. Great week.

Are you telling the week? Bigger week. I should only need 25 because you're one of them. Listen, Tim McAfee. Tim McAfee, you know. Hey, why don't you take everything you've ever earned

and just put it into this week. Everything you have saved, let's just dump it right into this week on a yacht out in the middle of the ocean. Yeah, and if any of the boys want to bring some floozy, she's got to pay too. You can't pay for her. True. You boys are bringing floozies onto this yacht? I don't think so.

If they're paying $20,000. No floozies. It's a work trip. They're not bringing floozies on this damn it if there's 26 people on this yacht pat's lasting one day one day one day we gotta get a 13 person i will be staying on a boat next to yes pat's buying another yacht that giant yacht's gonna feel real small after about the first three hours. Those cruise lines, on those cruises, I would go on to get away from the piss tester, man.

You knew everybody by what? I don't know, a quarter of the way into day one, you knew everybody on the boat? They knew me too, quickly. Yeah, the super yacht would be different. I think that's out there. Not right now, but in the future, that may be something we could do. We should definitely do super yacht week. Yeah. I feel like that's not right now but in the future that may be something we could we should definitely do super yacht week yeah i feel like that's something and by the way what happens is you put in okay so you have some type of groats so one fan per day can join us

what what's a groat greatest raffle of all time we did it before it was the greatest raffle of all time you bought uh the pat mcafee professional baseball player comedic sports documentary which people have heralded as the greatest comedic sports documentary of all time and you're automatically entered into the groat in the groat we gave away super bowl tickets we gave away world series tickets we gave away stanley cup tickets we gave away a lisa mattress we gave away a couple thousand bucks we gave away wrestlemania tickets so it was the groat the greatest raffle of all time. You buy the documentary,

you're automatically enrolled in the groat. We can make this another groat situation where you could win a spot on the Super Yacht Week and then do one for each day or whatever. I got it. I got the idea, Pat. So let's plan out when all the next five Super Bowls

are. The next one that is on the water. Well, Tampa Bay is coming up. We don't even have to get a super yacht. We get just a normal yacht, and we dock it right there for Super Bowl week, and that's where we do all of our stuff. Wow. Hey, do you want to come to Radio Row where there's 5 billion people, or do you want to come onto the yacht and have a chat?

Oh, and by the way, we're going to have a floating balls with a floating hole out in the water somewhere in the bay hitting off the top of said super yacht. You hit closest to the pin. You win a certain amount of money. Yeah, that's what we do. We do super yacht at Tampa Bay Super Bowl. It's going to be tough, though, with a regular yacht

when a super yacht pulls in next to you. I think we get a pirate ship. Bingo. Buccaneers are going to be in the Super Bowl, too. Against who? Probably the Chiefs. He already knows the Lions stink, this guy. Chiefs are just a good team.

Didn't the Lions win the draft? Yeah. Well, the guy that's currently talking for the Lions didn't know Woodward the other day. We're past that, Pat. That was part of the Friday news dump. No one remembered it. Gilbert Arenas won the lottery with the help of a homeless man. Have you seen this story?

No. I'm curious as to what it is. Okay. So Gilbert Arenas had $10 on him. He forgot his wallet. He was in his car. He was heading to a gas station to pick up his Powerball lottery tickets from his gas station. Okay?

From his people. He gets there. For some reason, he encounters a homeless man. He station, okay, from his people. He gets there. For some reason, he encounters a homeless man. He says, hey, I'm going to use $5. He has $10. He said, I'll give you $5. I got to go somewhere. The homeless man said, no, no, keep the money.

I don't need the money. Just give me a part of the winnings whenever you go buy the lottery tickets from wherever you go. He continues on his journey. The place closed up where he normally buys his lottery tickets goes back home. Next morning, he wakes up with a text message from a number he doesn't know. It says, congrats, you won the Powerball for $300,000. He has no idea what it means. Goes into the gas station.

The gas station person says, hey, since I shut down the store early yesterday, I played your numbers for you. So Gilbert Arenas is playing the lottery so much that the person who works at the gas station knows his number electric that he's this all in on the Powerball. I hope to get to that point in my life one time. Those numbers hit. He wins $300,000. He says thank you to the gas station. I assume he tips him out handsomely, goes and tips out the homeless person handsomely, and then goes about his day as a man who won a Powerball and won $300,000 when he didn't even buy a ticket. What an amazing story. Gas station attendant deserves all the credit in the world

for being potentially the best human on earth because Gilbert Arenas did not know that that ticket existed. He could have pocketed that, chose not to, and then homeless person saying, yeah, I need it, but you need it more. Good luck in the Powerball. Ends up winning. Gilbert Arenas, this is an awesome story.

Happy for him. I hope that happens to me one day, that I am a regular at a gas station for Powerball so much that they know my numbers and even when I don't buy a ticket I still win good for Gilbert arenas well good for that the gas station attendant are you kidding me you realize you have a winner that you played for somebody a famous guy that would never know if you didn't tell him ever you could pocket that 300 000. it's just like um in the movie american gangster when uh who's the cop and that's uh crow russell crow finds the million dollars and doesn't keep it he reports it or whatever that's exactly this gas station he had three hundred thousand dollars in his hand nobody knew

that this three hundred thousand dollars existed except for him in Gilbert arenas this is a personal relationship that Gilbert arenas comes in every day with him and picks the same numbers Gilbert arenas would have never known the guy could have taken 300 grand decided not to and that my friends is why you should believe that the world is much better than it is worse and why happiness will always win over negativity because of people like that restoring faith in fucking humanity yeah yeah you're right now what is the proper amount that gilbert should have given to this gas station attendant as well as the homeless person because if he won 300k you could say he's safely getting a pocket 140 so he's gonna lose half because of the lottery tax and then the prize tax and then the state tax.

So he's maybe less than 140 he'll take home. Yeah, it's probably like 110 maybe. And I'm sure there's options of, hey, we can pay you like three grand a month for a certain amount of time, or you can take a lump sum for less than the 300. By the way, everybody always says take the lump sum. I think if I ever win one of those big ones, I'd like to make it a game of

spending the money every month. Yeah, I mean, I guess they say take the lump sum because I want to be making money on my money. I don't want you making interest on my money. Yeah, and I get that. But if it's $700 million, it'd be pretty cool just to show up once a month.

It's like the deferred contracts, like what Bobby Bonilla gets paid at 1.5 or 3 mil like every March or something. Like, that'd be kind of nice, man, if they deferred your contract and I knew I had this big check coming every year. Well, that's why every scratcher I play is one that's for life. Every scratcher I play is one that wins you for life because I just would like a happy little show up at the front door each week. But they say, well, you take the upfront money. Well well when you take upfront money they cut it down even more because

they know that they got you because you're getting upfront cash as opposed to the long haul now obviously if you die there has to be some transfer of money and stuff like that but i'm taking a long haul and i'm making it a game on how i could spend every single dollar every single month in an interesting fashion so i think think he gives $10,000 to $15,000 to gas station person. Same amount of money to homeless person. And then he kind of rides off into sunset with another $70,000. It's a good story. And he'll be back next week

to play those same numbers. Bingo. I think that's a good amount, right? He's giving 10%, 15% probably give to the gas station guy, maybe 20%? Of his net, someone would probably argue, no, you need to give 10% of the gross. I've had teammates argue when they tithe, tithing, giving 10% of your income to a church. And I've had heated arguments I've seen of teammates say, no, you tithe off your gross.

You don't tithe off your net. What would you do? So maybe 10, 15 grand is a little light probably give them 25 30 yeah i don't know i don't know but also did i win 300 or did i actually win 400 grand and it's a cops found you know what i mean because like changes again 180 200 bucks of mine went missing from when i was arrested to the next morning when i could reclaim my money. Well, you give that homeless guy five bucks because he's got no clue you want water. You tell him to go kick rocks. You just take care of the clerk at the gas station.

That's a good idea. Jesus. Just keep the good, friendly cycle going, right? He's a terrible guy. He's a terrible guy. Right there. That guy probably doesn't even know what day of the week it is. You just let him get his malt liquor from the grocery store.

Oh, man. He's such a terrible person. I can't co-sign on that. Me neither. I hope you give that guy. You should see my relationship with homeless people. Okay? It is a good one.

How do you mean? I took one homeless guy out for St. Patrick's Day with us one day really started at like 7am with me and I just said you just want to come with us he said yeah got him a couple jackets from some places I mean he was with us all day that guy probably

I don't know I probably gave him 3-4 thousand bucks that day he just hung out with me all day you sent me down to station scare. No, no, no. We were hanging out with this homeless guy all day. Nick hopped in a cab. He should not have hopped in. It was very obvious that we were not following wherever this cab was going to.

We come out. There's a couple people we didn't know, and I didn't want to be around them. So we're like, all right, we'll just let them get in that cab. We'll tell them we'll meet up with them soon. And Nick hops in the cab, and we're all like, don't do that, and nick hops in there it's like well don't save him he don't want to be saved to gone see you in about four hours and it was me a couple of my other buddies that nick wanted to hang out with most and then uh homeless guy yeah nick was replaced by the homeless guy that we found right there on the side of the street you have a name kind of time of his life

i don't know he had a sign though it said why lie it's for beer and i was like you just want to come have all the beer? He's like, yeah. He fucking threw a sign down. It was like a movie. He just joined us. He got kicked out of one place because they said he wasn't properly dressed and he was doing something else.

But he had a good run with us. And I gave him a lot of money. Another homeless guy in Pittsburgh, like 2, 3 a.m. on the south side walking down the street. I saw him. He had great Timbs on, so I respected it, and we had a good conversation. I gave him like 500 bucks, and I said, I'm going to be back next week. If I see you here, I'm going to be upset. I want you to go get a job at McDonald's. I want you, 500 bucks is

enough to put a down payment on an apartment complex, get you some new clothes. If I'm here next week, I want a refund or whatever, and he's like, oh, you got it, man. Clean tap. We leave. Next week, about 3, 4 a.m i see him again sitting there hand out i'm like what the fuck happened pal gave you 500 bucks last week he was like i want to get a job mcdonald's i had no home address i couldn't fill out the thing i couldn't apply for a job i was like oh that makes sense gave him another 500 bucks and walked away so i mean me and homeless people have a good relationship i mean a smart business move would be to dress up as a homeless person

and hang out outside of your little funhouse warehouse. Where I'm at? Try to get some cash. Yes. It is a smart idea. It is a good idea. And I get yelled at by people that normally own the places that have the homeless people outside of it.

They're like, why are you rewarding bad behavior? And I'm like, well, what the fuck do you want me to do? You want me to just look at this? And then I know that I've been grossly overpaid and I'm just supposed to walk by this person that obviously just wants to buy drugs or booze and say, hey, you're not fit to get that? I'm like, here you go, pal.

Fucking let's live a little. That's the thing I don't understand when people are like, well, why are you giving them any money? They're just going to go buy alcohol. I'm like, okay, cool. What do you mean? It doesn't change what me going to give him money.

You know what I was probably going to do with this money? Ounce of vitamins, bro. It's crazy. His went to liquid. Mine would have went to smoke. Basically, the moral of that story is you'd rather hang out with random homeless people than people that you actually know. Yeah.

No. Yeah. Nick should not have gotten in that cab. Well, Diggs was down at Station Square. I tell you what what for our Super Bowl Super Yacht experience Maybe we have a raffle and we bring on 25 random homeless people on the boat

So I gave away 5,000 tickets when the Pacers made the playoffs Back against when they made that run Against the Heat So the Pacers were worried that the home playoff game wasn't going to sell out Because they had just come back Into resurgence after falling off A little bit after some PR issues. So I said, some conversation, sorry.

I don't know if they started a conversation or I started the conversation. I was like, can I just buy 5,000 tickets and give them away or whatever? And they were like, yeah, we'll give you for a deal. I think they charged me two bucks a ticket maybe or something like that. So I put 10,000 bucks down. Then I had to give away the 5,000 tickets. You know how hard it is to give away 5 000 how do you even do that so what we did was we set up something down at the uh at the time i think it was kinseiko field house now it's bonkers like field house they put a hoop down in the lobby and if you showed up

and you made a free throw you got two tickets tickets. Because it's Indiana. You know how many homeless motherfuckers showed up? They were their busted ass job. I mean, we had a line of thousands. Hey! Thousands of people. But there was probably 15, 20% of them were homeless people. They're like, oh, I get to fucking watch a playoff NBA game. I'll come get this shot loose.

And they're like throwing things off the back, taking food out of there. I mean, it was one of those situations. But yeah, it was not easy to give away the tickets. It was much harder than I thought, and I would never do it again. But it was a cool moment to watch a homeless get wet and get a chance to go hang out for a night.

I mean, 5,000 is a lot. I would imagine if you just had the tickets there and said, hey, show up and we'll give you two tickets, you still may not be able to give them all away. No, there was a lot of people there that were shooting the free. That's why we had to do the free throw thing because we thought 5,000 homeless people could potentially show up.

So there had to be a little bit of a challenge to get in. I would have went down there. If I was living in the area and I wouldn't take my kid to a game, I may have gone and tried to make a few. Good team, too. That was back when Paul George, George Hill, Roy Hibbert, Frank Vogel, Lance Stevenson. That was a good team. Those teams were fun to watch.

Reggie Miller. Reggie Miller was not. He was talking on the sideline at that time. He looked good in the last dance. I feel like he came across well. Yeah, because he had a good jumper. They showed highlights of him playing good basketball. You know, I learned a lot about the NBA. i mean they highlighted the celtics they highlighted the

lakers they highlighted the pistons they highlighted the knicks they highlighted the jazz they highlighted the pacers i mean it was a pretty good little history lesson throughout entire last dance and it was nice to learn about indiana and its fan base and that lady kathy uh kathy martin i believe was her name she's been doing a little local uh uh um interviews because of her screaming she said Jordan won't give her anything but her and Rodman had a good giving tech I love you or Rodman was saying to that lady hey I just saw a thing pop up when I I know Tom Brady was down in Tampa working out with teammates right on some high school field prep school the best the best was I see all of his teammates are wearing helmets.

Obviously, Tom's got the shoulder pads on because he always wears shoulder in, like the left knee sleeve. I don't think it was Tommy Copper, though. So Brett's way a bit upset. Hopefully Brett sends him a few. Make him better. Yeah, when he's younger. I like that people work out in their full pads.

I always say I'm going to do it, and then it gets the offseason, and I just didn't want to put a helmet on. I would never. I get it. If you to do it, and then it gets the offseason, and I just didn't want to put a helmet on. I would never. I get it. If you're a quarterback, especially, he definitely feels different throwing the ball with shoulder pads on. But I just don't know. I can't imagine strapping it up and going out there and doing footwork drills.

For me, the helmet changed the view a little bit, you know, for me, for punting. And I would always be like, you know what? I'm going to put the helmet on this offseason. It's going to take me to that next step. and then every time i go to call the equipment staff for my helmet they would be like do you really need this nah you're right there's no way people in green bay would let me take my helmet out of the locker room there's no chance no chance i would have to i would have to call and tell ask them for the helmet and they would be like well what do you want it for i'm like well i want to work out, well, I want to work out in it. Like, you want to work out in it?

Why? Tom Brady's doing it. Maybe I do it. Maybe it makes me punt balls better because Tom Brady's doing it. Also, avocado ice cream in my locker, please. Or you show up and they got a helmet from the pro shop that has the thing in there,

the flat thing so you can't put it all around your head. Somebody grab that helmet. We got a helmet sent here. Battle Custom custom battle custom helmets is that what it's called battle custom helmets is this kid who's making helmets he's like creating these helmets it's going to alleviate concussions right uh i'm not 100 new helmets i'm not sure what his mission is i think he just makes custom helmets for people i believe you've like for instance you ever seen dockery on the internet he has that all black helmet that he works out in like i think there's custom helmets this guy sent this helmet to us it's kind of it would not fit my head at all but it's awesome

look at this you think it's a colt's helmet right huh the number one there boom flip it over it's west virginia It's West Virginia. Every mountain here. Was that the same model that you wore too? Same setup? I believe this is the last helmet that I wore in the NFL. Same setup. It's just two sizes too small.

You got a big head. That's for sure. Big brain. But it's a beautiful helmet. Shout out to Battle Custom Helmets, I believe. He's like one of the shoe guys that does custom cleats and custom yeah here he is battle customs right here this guy he sent me this helmet it's a very nice helmet it can't fit on my head i wish it could because i'd like to go spear some people there's mine right there in the middle but uh i appreciate this a lot we're gonna have to find a spot for this in the uh

in the office in the studio. We should be able to build like a Lazy Susan for it, right? So it spins because, you know, you want to make sure people know that it's both. You see. Just build one singular thing, like how they present Super Bowl trophies but have a little turntable that it sits on

so it's always rotating. That's smart. Oh, well, you put on a record. Alright, is this your show? I think it's your show. That's smart. Oh, well, you put on a record. All right. Is this your show? I think it's your show, huh? Yeah. Did you want to wear number 40? Nah, gave it to me my first year.

And I just kind of, you know, I had to stick with it. Yeah, Nugent was 85. I don't think that was his first choice. 85 is a better number than 40. 40 is a tough number. The number numbers whatever you make it is though like when i heard when they gave me 47 i was like all right sweet john lynch like i liked i was a fan of john lynch he was playing at the time he wore number 47 i was like all right cool for me i was like sweet i love 40s you know what i mean you play edward 40 hands yeah i mean i played a Ultimately, I ended up pissing my pants.

But, I mean, it charges the game. I could see you being very good at that. Yeah, I was. I could chug very well. But sometimes it ended up on it. And you never play that game sober, right? So you're already pretty deep into it. Wait, so you would just piss your pants?

You wouldn't untape one of your hands? No. You'd have a buddy undo your pants for you or something? No. Charge it to the game. Respect the game, dude. What are pants for you or something? No. Charge into the game. Respect the game, dude. What are you talking about over there? I would not be pissing my pants.

I'd find a way to go without going on myself. Oh, man. You don't have the active bladder that I got, pal. Sometimes you just got to take the L whenever you're playing 40 hands. You would have lost the game, AJ. You're right. That's why I didn't play that game. Sometimes you got to break the glass pal push hey how did tom put this workout together was it and he's like people aren't all up in arms that they were out

there working out close to each other so it's a private high school prep school so i assume they have their own is open i guess right pretty much so it had to be florida yeah the governor said professional sports are good to go back so he's like professional athletes are allowed to do their thing could not have done this at the park would not have worked at the park old peter park ranger would have came in and kicked his ass out of there again i don't care if you're with mike evans or god would get the hell out or yeah you get it get the hell out of here he said fine we'll just go to a nicer place with a private school that lets us do our things this is is, I think, needed, by the way, for the Buccaneers, this offense. Tom's learning a new offense.

They're learning about Tom. There's a time where there's a chance where they could stumble out the gates a little bit because they're not going to learn a lot about each other. But I think by week five, week six, they'll be off and running. Right now, though, these workouts are a necessity to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, and it's nice to see that they're able to get that done. Yeah, normally when teams say a team has guys have played together for a long time receivers have played with the same quarterback or whatever like I think a lot of it's overblown but this actually makes sense

because there's so many little nuanced things that I'm sure Tom is used to his guys how they run routes so he could tell them like hey no I need you I need you to come back a half a step sooner on this route this is what I'm thinking here. This is when you're going to be open. So for the receivers, I'm sure they learned a ton. I'm sure Tom actually learned a lot about his receivers and how they run routes. And they got to see, like, what it felt like to catch the ball, like what it looks like coming out of Tom's hand.

And they also got to flex on Instagram that they played catch with Tom Brady. Pretty good. Ultimately, yeah, that's the most important thing. Pretty good. Yeah. Look at me, Mom. I most important thing. Pretty good. Yeah. Look at me, Mom. I made it. I've arrived.

Look at me. Jameis Winston does not deserve this, by the way. Deserve what? Just like us automatically assuming everything is so much better now that Tom Brady's there instead of Jameis Winston. Well, we're not knocking Jameis Winston. It's more just elevating Tom Brady. He's kind of taking ricochet shots.

And he said it's a compliment that the GOAT took his position. I think this year at New Orleans is going to be big for him, especially now that he got LASIK. He can do things. These workouts are big, obviously. All right. Is anyone else doing it? Yeah.

Ben Roethlisberger has been thrown with James Conner, Ryan Switzer, and Juju Smith-Schuster. James Conner and Juju both on contract years. Ben Roethlisberger coming back like Henry Rowan Gardner. Ryan Switzer's coming back being healthy. That is a field that has a bunch of vengeance on them. Roethlisberger's cutting the beard, cutting the hair. He's back in the game.

He's potentially coming back better than ever. Steelers are going to be nothing to fuck with next year. Yeah, the funniest thing was we did the show yesterday. We played some screenshots from Ben's video, cutting his hair, all this stuff. It was very confusing in how we showed the video. We didn't know when he was on a private plane, but, oh, this is before surgery, whatever surgery whatever and then i asked the boys like oh you guys you're all in on ben and the steelers now like absolutely i'm my whole life has changed because of this short video ben put out i like read on espn like big ben is back looking better than ever or something i'm like wow this is really

a thing you put out one hype video on yourself and everyone says you're back bro cole beasley changed his number we had to talk about it for 15 minutes ben roethlisberger one of the greatest quarterbacks of all time i'll say it he's one of the greatest quarterbacks of all time never gets talked about because of the things that happen off the field but he's coming back that team last year almost made the playoffs with almost no quarterback play they had a quarterback almost get decapitated on national television bring in minka fitzpatrick the defense does their thing tj watt who i guess is the dumb watt by the way i've been watching some some tag previews it feels like tj watts the dumb one which by the way completely okay at defensive end he's a damn good dumb defensive end dj watt is that show also looks very good

can't wait to watch it have no clue when it debuts it's on fox hosted by all the watts but that defense almost carried them to a playoff last year. Now you get Ben Roethlisberger back with his offensive coordinator, some driven guys on contract years. I think this is real big news. I think it's really big news, especially in that AFC North. It's going to be tough, already contentious. Or is it a knock on Ben because they almost did make the playoffs without him?

No, no, no, no, no. Oh, you think? I don't think that. I'm just presenting what someone I'm sure could say. You think just like the Bulls, whenever Jordan retired, they made it to the Eastern Conference Finals or whatever. Are you saying that? That was Phil's best coaching job, if you've heard.

Well, Coach T's. Or maybe his team was just so good. Coach Tomlin coached his ass off last year. Nobody talks about it. Mason was thrown. We talk about it. Yeah, if anything, AJ, you would cite the opportunistic turnovers on the defense

and how will they be able to replicate that again. We don't know. We don't know. They come in bunches, right, Pat? Turnovers. Turnovers come in bunches. Munches and bunches. Lunches and functions.

So should we release a hype video for you guys? For Steelers or for us? For you guys. For me? And AJ, we're back. Oh, like we're a show oh i guess you do that too but i'll say actually football football back yeah i put a couple no not football for the show maybe i put a couple five out bombs out in the backyard that was enough hey a while ago you were in the middle of uh like a a big diet and a workout plan you said you were gonna be on the middle of a big diet and a workout plan, you said you were going to be on the cover of some muscle and fitness type magazine.

Did this ever happen? Never said that. Yeah, you did. Putting words in his mouth. Never said that. I remember you sent me clips of you deadlifting. I'm like, what are you doing in the middle of a pretty big ad campaign, pal? We're going to cover a big magazine.

There's no magazine ever happening, but we were in a pretty big uh ad campaign pal we're gonna cover a big magazine we were there's no magazine ever happening but we were in a big of a pretty big ad campaign pal for of you working out yeah what are you gonna be sponsored by like rogue or one of these crossfit companies i don't do crossfit okay i'm not athletic enough you had me fooled i thought you did it's bad for your i just fucking move weight dude okay i just weight. It's about that business. I am. About the work. Hey, I had to go to a workout in yesterday. I have not had that type of workout in a long time.

In the pool? I got a bodybuilder to send me a workout because I'm tired of being fat shamed on the internet. Okay? So this bodybuilder sent me this workout. So is it working? Is the fat shaming working on you is what you're saying? Yeah. I fucking got after it last night night i was in the shower afterwards last

night couldn't get my hand to the back of my head because my arms were so blown up couldn't even like i had to i had to move my shoulder completely to get the back of my head i had like something i was so blown up what kind of workout did you do it's a fucking bodybuilder upper body workout and wait till today today's legs i'm kind of dreading you do? It was a fucking bodybuilder upper body workout. And wait till today. Today's legs. I'm kind of dreading it, to be honest with you. Do you do this at home? Yeah, my home gym in the garage. Why? Are you on another campaign?

Are you trying to get on the cover again? No, I just got... I've never tried to be on the cover of any magazine. I don't even know what that means. But I... I mean, we all know that your brain forgets things a lot. No, it doesn't, actually. Not the cover of magazines.

No way. you would know i mean depending on the depending on the day i'm tired of being fat shamed aj and i'm tired okay i'm tired of looking at working on you is what you're saying it's working on you but i'm saying i would i would hope you would admit pat that talking to you like day to day the amount of ideas and different possibilities that you may that may be happening for this show for your other show for everything else you're doing yeah it's possible that you throw out 37 different scenarios of what's coming in the future and by the way that's why you have to answer your phone when i call you because i don't know if this idea is ever

coming back okay i don't know if it's ever coming back. Somebody needs to hear this and say, yeah, I like it, don't like it, let's move forward. Because people take ideas all the time. People take my ideas all the time. The good thing for me is there's going to be more coming, so that's completely okay. But when I call you, it is fucking, I need you to answer right now. No, you don't. That's the thing. I do.

I need you to answer. You FaceTimed me don't. That's the thing. I do. I need you to answer. You FaceTimed me. Yesterday. And then I instantly get the text. Oh, okay. Or you sometimes leave that nasty comment that you text me when I don't answer it. I normally send a wow, too,

because that is my brain forgetting the idea of what I was going to tell you, and it's just fucking disappearing. Wow. Unbelievable. Write it down. Why don't you write it down? I have a notes section that's filled with a bunch of shit,

but it's normally, it's written so poorly, I don't remember what the fuck it means most of the time. You know what I mean? I'll just give myself a voice memo. I'll never listen to him. I think you should. We'll make voice memos because then we could compile them over like the course of a year

and then Zito or somebody can put them together and put it together nicely, and we can listen to you and your voice in different stages of possible, hey, a lot of vitamins right now, oh, a little sleepy right now, no vitamins, and you could hear the different inflections in your voice and the excitement for these crazy ideas and possibilities that may be happening, and we'll put them in a little three-minute clip. None of them are crazy. Three minutes. minutes you're gonna need a lot more than that pal but the i need you to answer trust me i know better than i need you to answer whenever i

fucking call though i've had a couple really good ones in the last couple days and you have been no showing because your kid's birthday and then the blue angels and then all this other stuff it's like yo we're trying to compile something special here for fall and you're a no answer guy it's like, yo, we're trying to compile something special here for fall, and you're a no-answer guy. It's like, yo, I got things cooking right now, AJ. Need. And by the way, they come in waves, too. It's kind of frustrating. I'll never understand it. There's some days where I'm like, you know what?

I think I can write a rap song today. All right, I'm going to do that. Then I'm going to record it. You don't need to call me, though, to tell me that you want to write a rap song. I only call you whenever things are associated with potential Aaron Hawk. I get you. Hey? I only call you whenever things are associated with potential Aaron Hawk. I get you. I'm with you. And it's no fault of your own,

but you do tend to call at high traffic times, like 8.15 in the morning when, obviously you don't have kids, but it's different. When you have kids, there's times like getting them ready in the morning, getting everything situated. It's a bit of chaos.

And then at night, when they're trying to get together to go to bed at bath time, all this stuff. That's usually when I'd see the FaceTime coming through. Just wait until the call tonight about this super yacht. I am going to have no less than 75 ideas for this super yacht at Superbowl. 70, maybe 80 of them.

So tonight when those kids are cleaning off, you know, whatever the day that they had on them, just expect a couple FaceTimes coming through. And if you don't answer, there's going to be a long text message following it. Just want to let you know that. When I text back, what's up? Sorry, couldn't get it.

What's up, man? Then either nothing from you. And I'm like, oh, either he's like mad and offended, or he's probably upset himself because he already forgot the idea of the FaceTime talk 30 seconds ago bingo zito wants us to do a calendar i think right what is that your idea uh probably not but no somebody wants us to do a calendar maybe billy what do you mean like a like firemen do for sell to charity yeah there's this other idea that it's currently being cooked up that i think is a smash we might break a guinness world record idea that it's currently being cooked up that I think is a smash.

We might break a Guinness World Record with it. It's currently cooked up behind the scenes right now. There's so many ideas cooked up behind the scenes and inside your brain that I can't keep them straight. Nah, not right now. There's only a couple right now. The one breaking a Guinness World Record is potentially the best idea that we've had in a long time.

What record? The record. Can't talk about it no it's just just know it's a great idea Thank You Ty Thank You Ty if you answer your phone you would have known it exactly fucking exactly Zito that is the perfect like for instance what if this idea came to me last night and it was involving you? I FaceTime you. You don't answer per use. Then I wake up this morning.

You call me back. You go, what's up? I go, I don't remember now. He's gone. I don't remember. There's ways to document your ideas, right? Yeah, it's you, AJ. Yeah, but I'm a naturalist, dude.

What makes you so sure that I'm going to remember your crazy idea? Because if you remember it and I remember it, probably a good idea. Plus, if if you only remember a sentence of it you'll probably then you say that to pat pat remember the whole damn thing bingo great man you know what you've turned me you've presented you presented like evidence that i need to change there you go just if i call there's a reason behind it is what i'm thinking but that's not true though you think i'm just calling to talk i don't want to fucking talk to you. You hear me? Oh, okay. Now I'm hurt. Now I'm hurt. That's what you just said to me!

That's what you just said to me! Oh, I'm hurt. No, I know there's always some kind of idea brewing when you call and I, believe me, if I am able to and I see the FaceTime, I do answer. I've FaceTimed with you, Pat, in the last year more than i have facetimed

in my whole life probably you're welcome i wouldn't what i was going for but yeah do you use facetime a little bit more now because i kind of brought it into your life forced you into it you did kind of like open me up a little bit because i remember you telling me a couple years ago like no facetime is great because like facial expressions and everything is a big part of communicating and it is true i'm like well you know what as much as i pushed against it early on and i still do continue to push against it maybe it's with the whole covet situation zoom in with former teammates and friends and stuff you're like you know what actually sometimes it is good to see people well that's a lot of what i say too if you don't see how i'm

delivering you probably think i'm quite an asshole well and then you get your fucking shit on blah blah blah blah blah you know like people would be like oh a little bit harsh here but then whenever you see me say it it's like oh he's a stooge he's just joking right now you know so that's a lot of stuff yeah what is my stuff doesn't come through well over text bingo and also as soon as i say something i'd like to see the way the face is so i can see the immediate reaction to see if it's good idea or not so i say something in their face is like i'm like well probably not good all right i'll talk to you and if the first one's like oh good idea i'm like oh see got him bingo here we go let's start selling a little bit all right that is the best you have an uncanny i know we're wrapping up you

have an uncanny ability to go like you'll be in the middle of this super passionate like monologue oh this is my idea this is what i'm doing here we go okay cool talk to you about and you hang up i'm like that was it okay so we're done all right yeah so that reaction wasn't one that i thought was you know what i mean i was building up the bitch the reaction wasn't where i thought it was like all right we've got to take that one back to the shop and work on it a little bit let's get out of here you can see i'm kind of distracted like that's the problem about facetime you can see i'm like oh i'm like walking around trying to like fiddle with things i'm like aj i think i just thought of literally a 20 million dollar idea

and here you are just fucking fixing your kids hair okay let's can we find a little bit of focus on what matters here please jesus christ you're right you know what you're right pat all right i've been i've been wrong i'm not gonna facetime you anymore 2 31 uh eastern standard time tuesday may 19th it is now 2 32. what a day not a bad show shout out battle customs helmet here big thanks to add concepts what's that he's in the second in the comments what's he saying uh shout out you're a legend oh oh thanks man two sizes bigger next i know he he does a lot of work on these this took a long time to weld this together and then get the padding inside i've seen this thing will just never ever fit my way he didn't just paint one he didn't like buy a colt's helmet and then paint the

west virginia side no he welded it for sure dude come on have a little respect he welded that plastic that's a heck of a job he did did not. He just painted it, actually. Obviously. Did you really think that he welded two helmets together? Battle Customs. The guy will go to the extra yard. We found a video of AJ when he was on CMT Cribs. Excuse me?

I don't know if we were able to play it at all. You were on CMT Cribs? My dog was in there and everything, biting people. He was a rookie. I have a little clip right here. I don't know if you want to play it at all. You've seen how they play. I had a sweet outfit on, I think. You want to play it?

I don't want to get a strike or anything. Would you get a strike? Yes, we're going to strike. We can't fucking play this. Go without audio. I'll skim across here. Go away real quick. I'm just like, go.

Show my one dog in there, biting the dude. Your dog bit? It actually broke. Well, we had the guy wear the big bite suit that trained my dog came and kind of showed off what the dog could do. Didn't you throw him off your deck? Oh, yeah. We cannot play that. Oh, that was an ad I did my rookie year for AT&T where I threw a guy off my deck.

Click clack, bro. Click clack. Fuck out. They had to bring a dummy and everything. I had to take the guy to the ledge and act like I'm throwing him off Fuck out. They had to bring a dummy and everything. I had to take the guy to the ledge and act like I'm throwing him off, and then they had to bring the dummy in, then they had to splice together. What did he say? Did he say the Packers were stupid?

No, you know what it was? It was a part of the whole thing where they would play this clip during my rookie year in the theaters in Green Bay when I would smack a dude in the back of the head and tell him, stop. Oh, that's Deion Sanders in the background of that. It was when Deion came, we did a video. But I would smack a dude in the back of the head and tell him to turn his phone off

and they would play it in the local theaters in Green Bay to get people to turn their phones off, I guess. Oh, so you're that guy at AMC Theater at the beginning telling me to turn my phone off and enjoy the show. Yeah, 15 years ago I was. Back when people used to This poor fucking guy, that's a dummy that does not look like a dummy if that doesn't either maybe they had a crash pad down there for him

you don't remember if you threw an actual person or not i mean that looks like the actual guy i knew there was a dummy is that your house right now? No, that was in Green Bay. Look at that thing. You just killed a man. Click clack, bro. Click clack.

There was a dummy involved, but looking at that still shot, man, maybe I did hear a dumb laugh. I wonder what the dummy was for now. It looks like the dummy there. All right. What a show. Thank you, AJ, for all that. You're amazing.

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Amanda was on the move a couple months ago. He is now a member of the Los Angeles Chargers. Five-time pro bowler, formerly of the Carolina Panthers. Ladies and gentlemen, Trey Turner. Hey, boy, Trey. Hey, boy, Trey. Good morning. What's going on?

Trey, did you have to go to the bathroom there? That's why you needed two minutes? Yeah, I needed a couple minutes for that. Are you in Los Angeles right now? Have you moved, completed the move over to be a Charger full-time now? Yeah, I'm in Cali. I'm in Orange County, so it's kind of early over here, man. Well, I appreciate you waking up with us. A great conversation to be had here.

Trey, you were a five-time Pro Bowler. Not normally does a five-time Pro Bowler get traded, especially coming off of a Pro Bowl. Matt Rule has come in, kind of a new offensive philosophy, kind of a new scheme. Did you talk to him before you were traded, and how did those conversations go? Did you sense that you were potentially on the block i was short conversations everything positive from

you know the first time i had a conversation with him when he got hired to you know when uh when i got traded um you know nothing too much in detail didn't know too much about the new personnel going on didn't know too much about the new coaches coming in and uh you know it's crazy times in the world, man. So I think that that same thing relates to the NFL at this point in time. So a lot of change over right now. Okay, so Tyrod Taylor is currently the starting quarterback over there in everybody's eyes.

Tom Telesco has come out and said that on this show. Anthony Lynn has said that. Justin Herbert obviously was drafted over there, a great athlete. Nobody knows what's going to happen. You were blocking, obviously, whenever Cam Newton was at his prime. Cam Newton was the MVP. You guys made it to the Super Bowl. What

was it like being an offensive lineman for Cam Newton? Do you see Cam Newton getting back in the league and being a starter since he's healthy? Cam Newton is a straight dog, man. He's just a competitor. You can't measure his heart. You can't compare too many people to him, if any.

You know, I don't know what a situation is going to leave for him, but I know he's going to fall on his feet. I'm just excited to see where he's going to go, man. It's going to be interesting, man, because, you know, a guy like that who's been tested and kind of got his back against the wall, if you will, say, with other people right now, man. I know he's going to come out guns blazing, so wherever he ends up, I'm excited for him.

It does feel like revenge body is coming out. You know what I mean? It feels like there's a revenge body coming out of this whole thing. Yeah, man. He's a warrior, man. I think it's just being seen at this point in time. You know, a lot of the things that are going on behind the scenes and you don't really get to see it. I mean, you know, I think it's just being seen at this point in time. You know, a lot of the things that are going on are behind the scenes and you don't really get to see it.

I mean, you know what it is. So I think it's just on the forefront at this point in time. A lot of people will say that he won't fit at certain places because of his personality or his charisma or whatever. In the locker room, is there any drawbacks to Cam Newton being in the locker room? No, he's definitely a great, great teammate. I mean, he's a quarterback. You know what I'm saying? So that's more so your focal point of the team. So you can't not be that kind of guy

in the locker room and stories get out about you, man. Everything is leaked these days. So he's a great teammate, man, a great person, man. And like I said, man, he's a great competitor somebody that's gonna get you ready to go let's talk about your future out there with the chargers a lot of people have said one of their problems is they haven't had a great offensive line tom telesco brings in a five-time pro bowler he's like hey let's solidify this thing let's get this going what have your conversations been with anthony lynn with tom telesco and what the future of the Chargers are going to be, aside from incredible uniforms. Yeah.

Man. Uniform's super dope, right? Yeah, super. Yeah. And by the way, they look like they have a color scheme that even big guys are going to look fit. Hey, man, I can't wait, man. I got that for sure.

What were the comments? But, you know, Coach Link, man, he's a great coach, man. He's been done it, been able to put his hand in the dirt and, you know, take the licks in, and he knows what it feels like. He's just somebody that has just come to me and told me, man, he's going to put it on our back. You know, as the offensive line, I feel like we're the engine of the team, you know.

We get everybody going. We get the offense going, and, you know, we get the defense something to chill for. So, you know, the a defense on the chill for so You know the offensive line. We just got to come together man. We got some great pieces some new additions And it just wrote Trey. I see the hat says diet starts Monday. We're big diet starts Monday guys over here Hey diet starts Monday guys Are you gonna be one of the linemen when your careers over that lose a bunch of weight or?

Just gonna is this is this the body that you want for the rest of your life? that lose a bunch of weight or just gonna is this is this the body that you want for the rest of your life no i think i gotta i gotta uh go to marsha yonder i just read his article hey he was on our show he showed up on our show like this facetime here because i don't see before you get on the screen in the studio i don't see the people because zito does the call and yonda popped up on i thought i was getting trolled he looked he looked smaller younger than anybody on earth and a lot of offensive linemen can do that do you force like weight onto your body i feel like that's something that a lot of offensive linemen have to do you definitely you definitely have to keep it up man uh the older you get in your career i

mean like i said you've been there you've done it your diet starts to change a little bit your regimen starts to change you you know what I'm saying? You're trying to stay healthy as long as you can. And naturally, when you do that, healthier causes you to, you know, burn more and lose more. So it is, it is somewhat of a, I wouldn't call it a struggle, but you have to keep, maintain your calories and keep it, bro. Because, let me see it, let me see it.

What are we on? What are we on? We in third down right now. Come on. Third down. It's 37, bro. And it's the last play of the game, man. We got to win it. Also.

We got to get a first down, touchdown, and kick a field goal. Who am I going against? Who's the end? Oh. We're going to go Melvin Ingram. Oh, great. Okay. Just great.

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Definitely, definitely. But if it's third and seven and if we get a first down and kick a field goal to win this game man they're going to the best move and if it's melvin ain't wrong i'm betting spin move for sure who's who's who's somebody that you've had more trouble with than you expected uh probably uh my guy Grady Jarrett. Small, quick, just flipping hips, getting inside of you and trying to work back outside to the gaps. He's just a real shifty player.

He has some small defensive linemen that, you know, being a 6'5", 350-pound personal position at 6'1", 280. So it's different. Golly. That's what Yonda said, too. He'd rather go against the bigger guys. He wants a lanky guy because he can get good leverage on him. The little guys, it's kind of hard to get in there.

Definitely. How hard will it be to learn a new offense? It's different. It's different, especially with the circumstances that we're facing right now. But it's cool, man. I take everything in stride, man. This is what they pay me to do. So, man, I'm in it.

I'm going to pick it up. Hey, Trey, go dominate out there. I can't wait to watch the Chargers. I can't wait to watch you. And I hopefully have you back on the show. You were excellent. Definitely, man. I appreciate it, Pat.

Hey, go Tigers. Ladies and gentlemen, Trey. Yeah, Trey. Oh, man. I appreciate it, Pat. Hey, go Tigers. Ladies and gentlemen, Trent. That's right. Oh, man. Hey, the offensive linemen are playing like six games at one time. The offensive linemen do not get enough credit, I think. Aside from punters and kickers

who get no credit, offensive linemen get no credit as well, and they deserve basically all of it. What Anthony Lynn told him, like, hey, it's on your back, that's basically how every team is. hey offensive lineman we might not have invested any money or draft picks in this just won't let you know we go as you go this week it's like oh could have thought about that maybe in free agency or in the draft but it's not easy to move people and then if you let up one time a game you're kind of cut joining us right now is a man who's a super bowl champion he's a man who has the biggest leg I've ever seen in person.

Ladies and gentlemen, the handsome, the talented from Temple. He's Temple Tough, Brandon McManus. What's up, dude? Thank you, Pat. Your arms are looking beautiful. Hey, thank you. I've been doing a optically pleasing workout circuit, and it's just, I? Thank you, Pat. Your arms are looking beautiful. Hey, thank you. I've been doing an optically pleasing workout circuit, and I think it's paying off. If we can get a good shadow here.

I see that. The lighting's perfect. Thank you so much. Normally, you have just a delicious mustache on your face. What are we doing? Quarantine got the best of you here? The mustache is a little longer than the beard, but I'm getting a little lazy. You know what I'm saying? it gets to the best of us.

How's the family? How is everything? How's fatherhood? I haven't got a chance to talk to you since you've become a man of the house. No, it's great. We've got the 16-month-old twin boys and another boy on the way. So I'm just building my 3v3 basketball team for the future right now. Hey, you stud athlete.

People forget there's some athletic genes coming through there congrats on uh another kid on its way uh let's get right to it denver broncos last year drew lock towards the end of the season became a guy i liked him personally because he was uh lip-syncing rap-syncing young jeezy on the sideline in the middle of a game so that made me feel as if he's a guy that enjoys the moment and stuff like that. How do you feel about Drew Locke being your guy going forward as a Denver Bronco? Yeah, I think you kind of hit a nail on the head right there with him. So he's very energetic, outgoing, almost childish.

He's still young. I mean, he's super young, immature kind of, but on the field, he's got young i mean he's super young immature kind of but on the field like he's got that commanding um you know presence with him so he's fun you know he's light-hearted so um you know i think the guys really enjoy being around him and we said we have a super young team now obviously uh winning the super bowl just five four years four or five years ago and um now that the roster has turned upside down. It's really just Vaughn Miller, me, and Todd Davis left on the whole Super Bowl roster.

So I'm super excited for Drew. I think he came along a lot. But like I said, he's a lot of fun to be around, and he's goofy, and that's just who he is. Only three of you being left is insane to think about, but that's the NFL, literally. You have no clue what's going to happen next year. I mean, John Elway's been in charge the entire time,

but the amount of turnover with coaches and everything like that can never be expected. Von Miller broke major headlines this quarantine whenever he found out that Jay Glazer reported that a fifth-string center for the Rams had COVID-19. And then, by the way, tough night that Jay Glazer reported that a fifth string center for the Rams had COVID-19. And then, by the way, tough night for Jay Glazer. I'm still not sure he has. Unfortunately, Jay Glazer might be something that doesn't survive the quarantine.

But we love Jay Glazer. But the next day, it comes out that Von Miller had coronavirus. You were very tight with Von Miller. Was that a sketchy situation in there? Like, have you talked to him about the whole thing yeah I was well I was fortunate I was actually working out at his house um and you know I had stopped just because uh yeah I think he kind of built up more and more serious and you know the governor here has put on more and more restrictions so uh I stopped going over to his house so i was fortunate that i stopped a week

early and didn't end up contracting it but um yeah i talked to him a bunch throughout it uh i think he was just obviously nervous because he had asthma and you know he kind of had some type of underlying condition but um he was in great spirits the whole time just had you know pretty much a sore throat and sickness um and you know just obviously everyone's happy to have, you know, one of the superstars of the league back and healthy. And, you know, he's kind of a good, how do I say this, a good person to speak about it because, like I said, he, you know, he takes everything, you know, lightly and very serious at the same time.

So I think, you know, I was just happy for Vaughn to, you know, kind of get over it. Have you been able to kick any balls out there during this quarantine? Will you just go out on the field all by yourself, get away from the whole family, say, hey, you know what, dad needs a little time to hit some dingers? I like to shut it down. Oh, yeah. Dad.

No, I usually wait until pretty much we usually report April 20th and stuff like that. So, you know, I've probably been out once or twice so far. I'm waiting for my kids to get a little older so they can fetch the balls from me. Smart. So you probably kick probably more than me. I've seen, you know, out there on that patch of grass out there. So you've never seen that house. You helped me move into my last house and i talked

about how you're this dude who everybody loves everybody enjoys you've come into your own and i think within the next two years you're gonna break the uh nfl longest field goal record i'm saying that right now what is it may 20th 2020 when brandon mcmahonis breaks the record within the next two years i would like to be credited as like the oh he's a simpsons guy you know what i mean you uh you paid me in bud lights back then so i'll make sure i send you a bunch of cases of that please do how do you feel though as you're getting older is your leg getting slow is it slowing down do you feel just as strong as you were whenever you were younger what is what is the state of the cannon that is the Brandon McManus' right leg?

Yeah, I think at the end of the day, it's all about ball contact, as you know, just the consistency of that. And I'd say, you know, my eating habits, I need to change probably more. Like, you know, it's harder for me. It's harder for my body to eat the same things that I used to and stay in shape. But, you know, my leg strength really hasn't dwindled much at all. You know, one of the things that I love to do still is kick off. You know, I think it's one of the funnest things for me just to kind of get creative.

Yeah, but you're stupid. You do like a three-step approach. You're just trying to rip everything in your leg and i enjoy watching it i just want to let you know i but your leg is so strong you can do that it is it makes no sense to me why you that you do it and why you do it i you know janikowski's inspired me you know i loved watching his you know his unorthodox he doesn't even take his steps on field goals you know he just walks on an angle. Oh, this looks good. So, you know, so I wanted to do something like that,

a little more free-flowing with kickoffs and stuff like that. And it makes it easier. It's kind of back to, you know, when you played soccer, just, you know, kind of get to the right depth that you feel is comfortable to, you know, just, you know, the amount of speed and the shortness to the ball. You're going to get the best ball contact. You know, Emmitt McMahon is working for us now? Do you know that, Tom's kid?

Yes. For you on the show. Yeah, he's here right now. He has a mullet. He's sitting right here. Yeah, there he is. He's an intern over here right now. What has it been like with Midge, man?

How is life with Tom McMahon on a regular basis? That's good. To me, he seems a little much different than when i was a rookie there in indianapolis uh maybe because i was um you know a young guy tried to you know shut up and just you know listen to him much more but uh no he's he's been good to deal with he one thing about tom is he wants to be the best in everything and he's going to work harder than anybody to try to do it you know he'll go if i miss a kick in practice or something like he'll go and watch my my kicks from temple freaking 13 years ago to see oh you know you did this back then you know what it's it's so mind-blowing how

much he'll go into do it so um he's all about winning which is you know an awesome quality to have in a coach and um you know hopefully uh we can get a Super Bowl ring for him here soon. You just got Sam Martin in there. Sam Martin, good dude. I think he's one of us. You know what I mean? I think you're going to enjoy that tag team with him. Yeah, I'm excited for Sam.

It's amazing. This will be my seventh year in Denver. I've had four coordinators. This will be five holders and three snappers. And somehow they keep fucking keeping me so i'm excited to have sam in there and uh you know my buddy prater who you know i'm good friends with you know obviously says a lot of great things about sam too so prater's the best brandon since joe flacco was in town have you been asked if you

were him when you go out to the grocery store at all because your haircut and facial hair you look a lot like joe right now elite thank you yeah elite joe i remember when i got him on the call you got him on the show he's on joe flacco has been on the pat mcfee show 2.0 podcast i mean that is not a lie that is 100 true what do. What did he do? He just screamed in the background, right? You guys were in the locker room. Yeah, we were in the locker room. I don't know who else is timing you. But I don't think I've been much for Joe Flacco.

When Paxton Lynch was drafted here a couple times, he looked similar to me, kind of just a tall, dark, mustache-y type look. He was more like a Zorro-type looking guy. But, you know, I'm playing here long enough. I don't have the Pat McAfee face in that repertoire here. Oh, geez. You know, the people at Home Depot, Lowe's, the grocery stores, they love me.

Hey, that's all that matters, especially now that you're at Daddy Daycare. Hey, I can't thank you enough. Were you doing anything off the field? He was doing this food review thing in Denver there. You were doing all those hipster food spots and then judging them. I did a food blog a couple years ago. I really want to do a TV show. What are we doing?

Let's pitch it. Here we go. What are we doing? I originally was going to bring out local celebrities here to restaurants, but now I think I want to travel to other players' cities, bring their favorite food out the night before the game or something like that. Nice. Get the restaurants out there, other players out there,

and get to eat some food. You know what you can do at the end? You can have a playoff with the chefs, too. You go visit them. You seed them. Then they can compete against each other with judges. Put them under the pressure cooker like us. Yeah, look at this. this hey look what we just did right here maybe that's what it's called by the way pressure cooker yeah maybe hey there we go hey all right you're gonna be like lebron

you're gonna have like 45 shows on tv look at you ladies and gentlemen a man who does well in the pressure cooker super bowl champ massive, massive leg-having, handsome, Zorro-looking son of a bitch, Brandon McManus. Thank you, Brandon. Have a great day. Have a good one, Brandon. Stay safe, will you?

Yes, appreciate it. Cheers, man. Good to see you. All right, all right. We're back tomorrow with Mark Cuban. A billionaire's on the show. Feel Good Friday. Going gonna be in full force we'll see you then ty schmidt please play some independent music Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.