The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 205 - Jordy Freakin' Nelson, Charles Robinson, & Legend, AJ Hawk Stop By. Let's Have A Tuesday.

Episode Date: May 26, 2020

Today’s show features an exclusive interview from McAfee & Hawk Sports Talk with Super Bowl Champion, Pro Bowler, and All-Pro, Jordy Nelson. Pat and AJ chat with Jordy about leaving Green Bay to go play for the Raiders and how difficult that was, his thoughts on Derek Carr and why he gets a bad wrap from the media, whether or not he would come out of retirement to play for the Packers, his relationship with both Aaron Rodgers and AJ, what his life is like now on the farm, and how he can hit a softball a country mile (3:28-45:36). Also included is another installment of McAfee & Hawk Sports Talk where Pat and AJ discuss The Match 2 and how they both loved it, how their Memorial Day Weekend’s were, a likely landing spot for Jadeveon Clowney, Mike Tyson coming out of retirement and looking for a potential fight, and they discuss everything going on with the NHL as they come closer and closer to potentially finishing the season (45:38-2:01:58). To close out the show, Yahoo Senior NFL writer and friend of the show, Charles Robinson, joins the program. Pat and Charles discuss all the rumors circulating around the Dallas Cowboys making a push for Jets S Jamal Adams and what that price could potentially look like. Charles also gives his thoughts on whether or not a deal for Dak Prescott is going to get done this year or if he’s going to go the Kirk Cousins route, he breaks down where he thinks Jadeveon Clowney will wind up and who is interested, and gives a couple more interesting tidbits about things going around the NFL (2:03:53-2:20:26). Don’t forget to send in the hashtag #ThisIsWhereImAtPat with a picture of where you’re listening to the show for the chance to win some free merch. We hope everyone had a safe and fulfilling Memorial Day Weekend. Come and laugh with us. Cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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How you guys doing? Jordy, how's that closet there with old AJ? I heard you're living in your sister's house at the moment, building a mansion out there. Good for you, Jordy. Yes, we're reaping some of the benefits from the last 10 years. In the process of getting the house built, this closet's beautiful. I feel like there's a heat lamp or a couple of them in here,

so a little sauna going on. Jordy, why did you pick the Hawk family to come help out? Is his wife just the greatest interior designer of all time? Is that how this goes? That's what I've been told. Oh, you've got to prove it here. Greatest interior designer of all time. Is that how this goes? That's what I've been told. So, um... Oh, you've got to prove it here. I'll let you know in a couple months when the house is complete.

Congratulations on a new house out there in Kansas. There's a lot of people from Kansas tweeting that you were coming on the show today. You don't normally do interviews. I don't think I see a lot of Jordy Nelson, which I don't love, by the way. I wish I saw more of you. The question I want to ask you before, A.J. some questions over there and the boys i think the boys are loaded with questions for jordy nelson um that story about his nephew being named after you is 100 true by the way yeah the whole schmidt family has some questions i want to know what it was like for you

when you show up at new teams in new locker rooms in the first workout when it's conditioning and running and we've all been in professional locker rooms when a white dude has jets it is not a normal thing but jordy you were this guy who you're on a field burning past folks deceptive speed means white dude who can run fast what were the conversations what were the conversations like whenever you got to a new team maybe it was the raiders or maybe it was a new person at the Packers. Was there always an element of surprise? And have you always just been an incredibly fast dude, like even in high school?

I didn't have any conversations about that. Our DB coach, Joe Witt in Green Bay, would give a little heads up to the new DBs coming in. Like, yes, he's white, as you're saying, obviously, but he can run. So they'd give him a little scouting report before we'd go hit OTAs or minicamp or training camp. So that was a conversation with them. I tried to stay out of it, and as long as people thought I was slow,

it worked into my benefit come game day, and so it worked out well. That DB coach being like, hey like hey listen do not get got here okay this is not a normal caucasian here okay you need to backpedal and flip those hips quickly do not get got by this he has gotten a lot by the way do not get that is a hilarious thought pat hey last night so jordy lives here he's a legit farmer his brother is a farmer slash cowboy what so last night about 8 30 he said hey you want to go over we're gonna do some roping and when he says we not me his brother and everybody so last night until about midnight i was at his brother's property in the arena he built letting little calves go out through the

the chute i guess and they're chasing them down and one of them's roping the horns one of them's roping the the heels and then jordy gets out there after he's roping and trying to basically break a wild horse i watched him do jordy gets out there and as they call it he's bulldogging calves grabbing them behind the horn show me your little your little cut he's got a little cut on his arm already if you can see oh you got bulldog by cow downer yeah so jordy's been bulldogging calves all all night and got home about 12 30 and still able to come do this it was pretty impressive so you're like in you're in the farm world right now as we speak was that always going to be like hey whatever happens with this football

thing at the end of the day we're going to come back home we're going to farm are you from a family of farmers is that how it's been yeah i grew up on a family farm my grandpa started it started years ago um then my dad stayed on the farm after he got done with high school. And then so I grew up on the farm doing chores and working through the summer. And it was the plan at the end of football, whenever it was, or even if I wouldn't have made it, it was to probably do farming or help farm and do some coaching or whatnot. So I think it's a great way to raise kids. I need to get my kids on the farm because they're spoiled and I need to learn how to work. and do some coaching or whatnot. So I think it's a great way to raise kids.

I need to get my kids on the farm because they're spoiled and I need to learn how to work. And when we go outside to do stuff and they complain it's hot and it's only 80 degrees and I warn them it's going to get 20 degrees warmer, I give them a little warning there. So, no, it's just I like being out in the rural country, rural Kansas, working with my brother on the farm, helping him out with his family. He's got four girls that are all about the same age as our kids. So it's a good time.

It's a movie there. There's some sort of strength that comes from the farm, by the way. I will never have because I grew up in a non-farm world. By the way, maybe grow up on a farm, run a 4-2 if you need to. Probably. That's probably what happens. You start tackling calves, run 4-2. That Caucasian's a little bit different.

This guy's been running with the wild animals his entire life. You got a question, Ty? Yeah, I just, I mean, it was tough when the Packers let you go. How hard was it adjusting when you went to the Raiders after you had your storybook career with the Packers let you go, how hard was it adjusting when you went to the Raiders after you had your storybook career with the Packers? It was different, for sure, especially for myself, who's not very outgoing, very kind of a shy guy until I'm around someone for a while. So it was different being out there.

We enjoyed our year in Californiaifornia and especially not thinking coming from kansas not thinking i would enjoy living a california life but where we were able to live and be it was fun we enjoyed our year out there some of the people we met on the team were great but it was definitely a little bit of a transition especially for only being there a year by the time you got kind of settled in the season was over and thought you could you know keep picking it up but it was different i definitely missed the guys tried to stay in contact with davante and randall and aaron and those guys that were still on the team and but yeah it was definitely different than oakland's different than green bay we'll leave it at that the town is a little bit different than

the village but the um the uh um do you text with Aaron Rodgers still? It's a one-way text. You send, he doesn't answer? I'm currently in the middle of that right now. We are in a three-day stare down on text messages. I just asked him, how you doing, pal? And I have not got an answer for 72 hours at this point. I'm not sure how long I'm supposed to wait

before either deleting the messaging, deleting his number, or just kind of act like it's a normal thing. Yeah, no, we should just keep resending, resending, resending, resending. Hey, bringing this back to the top of your text message chain, wondering if you missed this. I know you're busy over there. Did you sign back with the Packers and retire as a Packer? Did you do that, I assume?

Yeah, I retired as a Packer. Yeah, I went back there, did a press conference, was able to just end it where I began, which was great. Mark Murphy gave me a call a couple days after I announced that I was going to retire and gave me that option to come back and do that. And so it was fun to go back and do that and just finalize everything and be done and be able to move on. Wasn't there a thought that you were going to come back to do that and so it was fun to go back and do that and just finalize everything and be done and be able to move on wasn't there a thought that you were going to come back to the Packers after you left was there ever and then I think there was a conversation I don't know if

you were having it probably not but other people were having it like I guess not for them my guess is um it wasn't ever there was never a conversation about going back up there um you know if they would have called it would have been very intriguing to go back but there was never a conversation about going back up there. You know, if they would have called, it would have been very intriguing to go back, but there was never any conversation between me or my agent and them to do that. Is John Gruden a cartoon character all the time or just when the camera's on? All the time.

I mean, what you see on TV or on interviews, it might even be a little bit more extreme in meetings. He says some pretty random stuff. He does keep it entertaining. It's a little harder to fall asleep in those meetings, I think, for some people than others because he's running the meeting, he's up talking, he has some unbelievable lines that he somehow creates. So he did a good job job especially for the year that we had there was kind of a struggle and obviously everyone's uh mindset change not changed but

the season was different once they got rid of Khalil and then we traded Amari and you know it could have been a long long year but he kept it upbeat and you know kept kept everything positive and moving forward which was greatly appreciated 90 million is a lot of money, man. Knock on wood if you're with me. That's what he said about Khalil Mack after he signed a $100 million deal. Very interesting. But the thought, why did you end up retiring? Were you just done with it? Was it injuries?

What was it at the end of the year? Did you think you didn't have it anymore? I think a lot of it was family. I went up and visited Seattle and had a great visit there. John Snyder contacted me when I got released by Green Bay and I never made it out there for a visit. I went to Oakland and just signed. And so they, you know, contacted me again after I was released. So I went up there and talked to him and my body feels great. And that was one reason why I wanted to retire. Honestly, I didn't want to push it another year or another year and then not feel great. And that was one reason why I wanted to retire. Honestly, I didn't want to push it another year or another year and then not feel great. And then the other, my family hadn't even been

in California for a year and we were going to have to box everything up and move to Seattle. And then once, to me, once you start doing that, you know, Seattle could have been one year and then it would have been to Tennessee for one year, then Denver for, you know, whatever. And I mean, my oldest is just finished fourth grade so I didn't want to start bouncing him around everywhere it's like let's go home get settled down I've had my fun I got 10 plus years in so let's get home settle down it's time to focus on the kids and let them you know get into sports back home Pat I got I want I'll ask the question you want to ask Pat because I know thank you I I know how your weird brain works.

Let's say right now, obviously you look great. Jordy worked out right before this. Can you tell? High expectations coming on this show. Hey, Jordy, me too, pal. Hey, here we go. The one thing Jordy didn't do, he didn't have to sit in his office naked for 30

minutes to cool down before he came in the closet for his interview. There's a couple other things I think we might have some differences as well, but that is one noted difference from today, our days today. That is true. That is one difference, but I wanted to ask Jordy something that Pat would definitely want to know. So it looks great, feels great, whatever.

What if the Packers give you – Ty Schmidt and Angry Mel Kiper both know – They need a weapon. They did not draft a wide receiver this year in the draft. It was kind of shocking. What happens is – what's his name? What's the GM's name, Pat? Hey, break the news here, Jordy.

This is big for a Friday. Friday news dump. You just want to say it. I mean, we can definitely – are you going back to the Packers if they give you a call? You still got it? You're out there tackling bulls right now. I mean, what are we doing, Jordy?

Are we coming back to the game? Let's go, Jordy. Let's go, Jordy. Jordy. Jordys right now. Come on. What are we doing, Jordy? We coming back to the game? Let's go, Jordy. Let's go, Jordy. Jordy. Jordy. Jordy. Jordy. Jordy.

Jordy. Jordy feels good. Family loves Green Bay. You know Aaron very well. He trusts you. They need a weapon. Jordy Nelson's coming back to the Packers. Is that what's happening?

Yeah. You don't have a house anyways? Yeah, I think Chris Sims is going to report that. Oh, no. Jordy! That was going to be our moment. That was going to be our Chris Sims moment. Damn it. Damn it.

I was so pumped there, Jordy. I felt like we could have bullied you into coming out of retirement. I think we all thought we could have potentially peer pressured you into coming out of retirement there while you're sitting in the closet of your house in Kansas there your sister's house. It definitely is warm in here though. You still throw a ball around?

Yeah, with the kids? You said you were going to get into coaching? Is that something you will do? Stick in the game? Oh, here's a question I did have actually. I'm sorry, Pivot. Don't care if you're playing catch with the kids. I assume you are. You're a good guy. Let's tell them. The offenses that you're in aaron mike mccarthy then you go and be a part of the gruden's offense was it hard to pick up gruden's offense because

they say that thing's insane there's another thing from chris simms they talk about how that offense is insane to recap like the noun of words and everything like that was it similar to what you had in green bay or is there very obvious differences in the verbiage and everything like that between the two it was very similar the some of the verbiage was different so that was the one of the hard parts of trying to delete everything that we had in green bay instead of saying just so you could skip a step to begin with there's like you know if they called dragon but it was actually whatever lizard you know instead of going okay lizard dragon so that means i have this you know you had to delete that step but i think one thing with gruden he adds so much week to week in a game plan that um is completely

different than like the normal set of offense so he has his normal install that you would do during minicamp or whatnot but then every week there there's a whole other downloaded system pretty much of we're going to run this versus the Broncos. And then next week against the Chiefs we're going to run all of these. So week to week there's a lot of information that comes in. And I was able to handle it fine. It is difficult on some younger guys that just can't, I guess, comprehend as much or are overwhelmed by so much more to

be able to grasp it all. But sometimes there is a little bit of system overload. Derek Carr gets a lot of heat. Gets a lot of heat. Is it warranted or not? No, it's not. Guy's extremely smart, very talented, works extremely hard, can make the throws, does it all.

I think he's been in a tough situation, I think similar to what Alex Smith dealt with with the 49ers. I'm just constantly rotating through coaches and offensive coordinators and which is that means a whole new scheme and yeah, he's smart enough to pick it all up and be able to run it. But it's getting all the offensive linemen on the same page, getting all the running backs, the receivers, the tight ends. And then, I mean, not to know too much about the Raiders,

but, I mean, it hardly seems like they keep a lot of guys for long term. Yeah, it feels like that. I mean, they're very short, so he's constantly dealing with new receivers. I mean, I went in, when I went there, I think there was one, well, they ended up getting rid of Amari, so there was only one other receiver that he had like played a game with. And then he had me and a couple other guys. And then the following year, all of us were gone and he had a whole new group.

So, I mean, then you compare that to Aaron and Green Bay, where he was in the same offense for 10 plus years. The same receivers that were there for like six, eight years at a time that slowly developed and figured out the system and got that chemistry going. So it makes a difference when you're not able to keep that chemistry from year one to year eight to ten. Every two years you're constantly swapping guys in and out to get any sort of rhythm.

Aaron said all the right things in his press conference. Do you think they're trying to run him out of town? I mean, it seems like they're being prepared for it. What's that? I feel like they're being prepared for it. I guess that? I feel like they're being prepared for it. I guess that is a smart move for the general manager to think about the future. You're a game away from the Super Bowl. That's not normal.

Like, it's not normal to get to the NFC Championship. That's not something that happens all the time. Yeah, I think just the way it all played out. I mean, like you said, they're one game away from the Super Bowl, trading up to get the quarterback. I think a lot of people compared it to Aaron's situation, but to me it's completely different. Aaron was debated to be the number one overall pick.

To me, Jordan Love was not. And I said this somewhere else. We'll find out if it's a good pick in four or five years. If he pans out. If they have another transition like they did with Rhett to Aaron and it's Aaron to Jordan, then, I mean, hats off to them. But, you know, everyone's going to question it until – because they questioned Aaron's move too until it panned out.

A.J. Hawk's entire family's there. How's that going? It's great. The kids are having a blast. The noise level has increased, not just his kids, my kids as well. Luckily, we've had some good weather, so we shove them outside, find a trampoline, ride some bikes and scooters. So it's been good.

Hey, K-State, who did they beat last? Oklahoma? Yeah. Are you the most notable Kansas State human of all time? I think you probably are, right? No. Darren Sproles. Darren Sproles.

Sproles is from Kansas State? When Sproles and I believe it's L. Roberson was the quarterback-running back combo in NCAA, that was the team to play with. Dangerous. Damn. I didn't know that. And then they had that coach that was there for like 95 years. What was his name?

Coach Snyder. Bill Snyder. Good guy, right? Yeah. Everybody says good guy. He recruited you, I assume. Yes. He was there.

Yes. He was the head coach when I first went there. Were you recruited by anybody else or were you just this farm kid from Kansas that nobody else could really find? The only scholarships I had were two Division II schools here in Kansas. And I walked on at K-State. Wow! Wow! Look at this guy, AJ. Are you kidding me?

All right, Jordy, so you're not going to play for the Packers again? Yes, I am. Let's go. Let's go. I got to cut the show. We got to cut that. We got to send that out somewhere. Clip it.

We got to clip that somewhere. Clip it. Say that. Jesus, is Gunta Kunz going to sign him? We don't know. We honestly don't know. It's going to be a tough negotiation. we gotta send that out somewhere clip it we gotta clip that clip it say that Jesus is Gunta Kunz gonna sign him we don't know we honestly don't know

it's gonna be a tough negotiation but Jordy said he's ready in the closet that he's in his sister's house Jordy we talk a lot on the show

about how we're Rust Belt kind of guys we're from the Rust Belt area do you think AJ or us we could survive on a farm or is that just

a different kind of guy I think you guys AJ he came back a few summers ago survive on a farm or is that just a different kind of guy? I think you guys could. AJ, he came back a few summers ago, about five years ago, to help with our benefit playing the golf tournament and whatnot. So we had him out there farming, put some mud boots on him. He was in the pen slopping through some cow crap and sorting some cattle and whatnot. AJ had some shit kickers on out there in Kansas.

Oh, no. Oh, in Kansas. Oh no. Oh no. I wish I was. Hold on AJ you guys froze there. We missed you there. It's not my thing. AJ we didn't know you were a cowboy too. You're a Rust Belt kind of guy. Didn't know you were getting in the fucking mud out there with the cows and the pigs.

Wow. I mean I'm just kind of staying there. The good thing is I'm really good at opening gates and when these guys are on horses they need a gate opened. I'm really good at opening gates. And when these guys are on horses, they need a gate opened. I'm pretty good at that. Are you like a very skilled horse rider, equestrian? Me? Yeah. No.

What? He says that because it's like there's levels of everything, I think, because his brother's a legit cowboy. Jordy had a horse last night that the guy, the old horse, J.D., wasn't really listening and kept sidestepping him. So what do you have to do? Is it punishing him? What do you got to do? He got tired of him. Jordy rode this dude

around the arena like 10 laps at a time. The thing is going full clip as fast as he possibly can at an angle sideways and Jordy's, I was scared for Jordy watching this happen. It happened every single time he stepped up to the plate to go run down a calf. It was pretty cool. So what are you going to do? You got to punish the horse like in football, like run sprints. Like, listen, you want to be an ass? Go ahead and we're going to hit the circles,

pal. Go ahead and get that energy out of you. Is that an everyday thing in the life of Jordy Nelson at this point? No, not an everyday thing, but it's just something that my brother does a lot of it. He'll do some what they call ranch rodeos and stuff in Kansas. And so since we've been back and I go out and help him use his horses quite a bit on the farm, moving cattle, sorting cattle. So I just try to get more and more comfortable on him, learning to rope. That way, if we need to go get one that got out or one that we can't catch. We can go rope it and then load it up on the trailer. So just trying to be more handy. You ever ride a bull?

No. You never did that? No. I thought that's what cowboys did. I see the Wranglers sponsor it all the time. The cowboys just hop on the bull and then they kick the shit out of them. Yeah, those guys are kind of crazy if you ask me. So you've never been on the bull and then they kick the shit out of them yeah those guys are that's kind of crazy if you ask me so you've never been on bull no is there any bulls in the area to get on

um no not like those i think i want to ride a bull at some point i don't know about the horse thing and the calf thing but i think i do want to strap myself on top of a bull and see how it goes the horse thing would be a lot easier than bull riding. But aren't the horses, like, they're legitimately, we had a girl in our school who, I'm more scared of horses, I think, than bulls, to be honest. We had a girl in our school ride on a horse. Somebody drove by, hit a horn.

Horse says, yeah, whatever it does. She ends up getting paralyzed. That was like whenever we were children so my first story about a horse somebody hopping on the back of a horse from where we're from not normal somebody got paralyzed i'm like well never hopping on the back of that son of a bitch i'll tell you that never gonna do that but the bull i feel like is completely okay what does a bull do when they open the gate when you're on their back well if you don't kick them too hard they kind of just walk around that is false i don't know what rodeo you've been watching on tv but you ever see one

of the miniature bulls jordy like the little miniature bucking bulls you ever see those things no i might be more of a cowboy than jordy at this point what type of farm do you have is it like bean corn yeah we got wheat uh soybeans corn silage alfalfa a little bit everything and then my brother runs about a thousand head of cattle or more now i've heard from my farm sources that we're potentially in a boom where we have too much too much product there's too many farms too much meat too much this which means in a boom where we have too much product, there's too many farms, too much meat, too much this, which means in a couple years, we're probably gonna see where people fall out, because businesses fall out in a couple years,

we're gonna be short on stuff. Am I right in thinking that? I honestly don't know. I think there's plenty of people to eat stuff. I think we just need to keep eating food from America. Hey! We just need to keep eating food from America. Hey. Jordy! Jordy!

Jordy! Jordy! Jordy! Hey, let's keep eating food from America, AJ. AJ, I know you've been eating food from other places. Let's keep our food domestic, pal. You hear me? Yeah, he was speaking to me.

That's what he was doing. He was taking a shot at me. Yeah. Well, you get that Kobe beef from over in Japan. Nice job, AJ. Wagyu. That's all you've been eating over there, AJ. Yeah, that's me. Who makes your PMI merchandise?

Is that made in America? Yes. Yes. Yes. Check the tag, AJ. Check the tag. We also, to be honest. It's probably printed.

It's printed in America. Where's that shirt made? No, no. Somebody showed it in new york i think or ohio but the problem is we're having a bit of a delay oklahoma on oklahoma oklahoma but the issue that we're actually having with the store is because we are an american operation you know quarantine came choked out all the jobs so we have a little bit of a delay in the delivery and the creation so we might have to push our Memorial Day sale back, which you are not happy about,

because we're such an American-made operation. Son of a bitch. All right, well, I get it. Yeah, then I should stop eating international, right? Just all domestic. Now, I have a question, Jordy. Does Taco Bell count? Or, like, am I allowed to eat Taco Bell, Jordy?

Is that okay? I don't know. I think I've had Taco Bell once in my life. Oh, so you eat like super healthy. I would assume that's why you're the fastest white dude around because you eat super healthy. You do the whole nutrition thing. Is that accurate?

No. Really? I mean, I don't eat bad, but I don't necessarily have a certain diet that I follow. I think just growing up, we always ate steak and potatoes on the farm. Hey, protein and carbs. Let's go. Let's get it.

Potatoes kind of guy. Yeah, you're damn right. Steak and potatoes guy. Hey, lunch trail guy right here. Yeah, exactly. This is the guy you want on your squad. The nearest Taco Bell is probably what? Like eight states away?

Probably. At least go over to, I don't even know. I'm not familiar with it. New York, Kansas. I have no idea. I know there's a Manhattan. Topeka is probably topeka if i guess it'd be manhattan it'd be 20 minutes all your 20 minutes from manhattan kansas yes left up right we are slightly northwest pretty much straight north of manhattan upper left all right got it jordy uh aj is a guy that's given us a lot of motivational speeches

on this show. Was he just the greatest teammate of all time or what? Yeah, especially in the locker room. Is that his thing? Was he the guy that spoke to the team before the games and stuff? Yes. AJ would ask Coach McCarthy to speak before a majority of the games in the locker room. Bring everyone up.

Pretty much just flip everyone off and say, let's go. Were you a vocal guy out there? Did you chirp or you were very quiet? Very quiet, very quiet. I actually speak louder than words. Did any corners try to chirp you a little bit? Oh, no.

Uh-uh. There he is. You're back. Hey, did any corners ever try to, like, what corner was the most, I wouldn't say chirpy but was there any corners that were trying to get you a little bit no not really um i never had one corner that really tried to talk trash or get in my head or mess with me at all um don't know why but uh i always assumed it was because it wasn't very enjoyable to have a one-way conversation because i wouldn't

say anything back so they'd just be talking to themselves so I assume it's more enjoyable with someone reacts and talks back a little bit. What was the uh what was a corner that you were surprised that gave you problems? A lot of the ones that gave me problems were the longer ones taller and longer arms um like Richard Sherman or uh I think it's Jimmy Smith I think that played for the Ravens a little bit so those guys um were a little bit more of an issue than obviously the small the shorter quicker ones weren't a big deal but the taller longer stronger ones gave me a little problem was that when you and Aaron created that back shoulder that back shoulder throw which everybody does now I feel like you guys didn't create it but I think you guys took advantage of it the most there it really

started rolling out whenever they were hitting I mean it was awesome it changed the game completely was that something that you guys knew you were going to do we're doing in practice what was the concept the idea there that's probably the biggest misunderstanding is that people think that's like an actual play like 200 jet back shoulder no such thing. It kind of just evolved. So when we, after we won the Super Bowl, we had a good run through the playoffs, and then the following year we went 15-1. We were extremely explosive on offense.

We were hitting a bunch of deep balls, winning over top, winning on the go ball. So then the adjustment for the DB is to play on the top shoulder. They would give us everything underneath, but they wouldn't get beat deep. So then the adjustment was to still run to win, try to win over top, and then Aaron would just read it. If the DB was on top, he would throw it at his helmet, and then by the time the ball got there, it would be to our back shoulder.

So for us, it was just timing-wise, knowing if it was a three-step or a five-step or seven-step of when we need to have our head around to see where the ball was coming from. But every time you'd go, you'd run to win and then just react to the ball. That changed the game there. Those things were beautiful, too. Not every quarterback can do it.

No, it's a lot of thinking within it because, like I said, as he's doing his drop, he's got to read the DB and where he's at and then be able to put the ball in a spot and throw it, you know, with good enough touch that you can still have time to react to. Because it can be thrown too fast where by the time you turn around, the ball is behind your head and everyone obviously blames the receiver for that. Bingo. So there's definitely timing with it, like I said,

both on the quarterback and receiver to know, like, the play clock in your head and everything of when the ball is going to be out favorite routes to go ball I think my favorite route that we ran and connected on was our uh corner post that we ran with big boot full protection nod to the corner and then hit the post and we connected probably five to ten times for touchdowns on those how How many against the Lions, you think? Oh, come on. Probably a handful. Some called for it.

Biggest Lions fan on earth is in this room right here. Nobody understands what he's doing. You're a nightmare, Jordy. Hey, Pat, I got one question before Jordy has to man the 7 to 12 kids out there while we finish the show up. A follow-up we didn't get to get to. I always wanted – I've asked you this, I think, on the show. Jordy, why do people – why does, I guess, mainstream media try to say that

Derek Carr is not a Gruden guy? They're like they don't have a good match. Why do you think that is? I don't know. My guess is for as animated and i mean you see gruden on the sideline where i assume if it was mic'd up there'd be a lot of beeping going on and you wouldn't really understand what he's saying and derrick's more of a calmer um obviously christian dude that is not gonna cuss anyone out or do anything like that so i

think their two demeanors and personalities might clash, but they honestly get along great. I mean, it's a good balance. There's a couple times when I was there, they got a little fiery at each other, but, you know, that happens with everyone, especially when you're coming right off the field after, you know, if you made a check or did something and it didn't work or didn't make a check or whatever, you know,

everyone overreacts within the first two seconds of the play. And, you know, by the time they watched the watched film on Monday everyone was back to square one but the one thing I think that works great with those two like I said earlier Derek is extremely smart and puts in so much time and work that he can handle everything Gruden's throwing at him so that's one thing I think coach Gruden had to adjust to like if he would see something on film he'd tell Derek hey like if we get this look let's go to this well derrick would remember that come game time he'd get that look he'd go to it what are you doing obviously if it worked it was great and if it didn't work gruden would flip out and be like what'd you do

that for he's like well you told me on wednesday that if they went to his luck to do this so he did it that's beautiful hey jordy i hope to be on your farm someday pal you guys are welcome to come out to kansas whenever well we're gonna wait till your house is finished we want to see the mansion obviously okay perfect that'll work it's a great place for quarantine out here in middle of nowhere where not very many people are around so i was about to ask you got 12 kids out there there probably isn't a coronavirus uh victim where within,000 miles of where you're at right now, I'd assume. There's some in Manhattan, but we've had, I think they said the other day, there were 60 cases in our county, and they're pretty much all in Manhattan.

So there hasn't been any out where we live. Well, stay safe because, you know, week eight, week nine, you know, the Packers need a weapon. A little playoff push. Playoff push. The farm boys out there tackling calves and racing horses still let's get them back into green and yellow sounds like a plan favorite musician garth brooks okay what about uh chris chris gaines chris gaines you ever heard of chris gaines no am i oh we just ruined garth bro for you. Ladies and gentlemen, Jordy Nelson.

Yeah, Jordy! Tell him to look up Chris Gaines, AJ. Tell him to look up Chris Gaines immediately after exiting that closet right there. Here, Jordy's got to find a way out of here. Oh, it's frozen anyway. There you go. Hey, you're a good guy, Jordy. Hey, he's a good guy, Jordy. Hey, he's a good dude.

Great guy. He's going to Google Chris Gaines right now, and it's going to be tough for him. It's going to break his heart. It really is. I feel bad that we did that because we had such a good conversation with him, and on the way out, we just ruined Santa Claus. He might break that door down coming back in. Did you see him?

I don't know if you saw it. When you mentioned Chris Gaines, Jordy, that he dropped the mic a little bit and he kind of looked at me like really worried. He wasn't really sure. I'm like, well, you're going to be even more upset and distraught than Chris Gaines was. He's a good guy. He didn't tell me cool glasses, but he's a really – I liked him a lot.

Oh, yeah. He's he's awesome man of course but i'm telling you last night it was an eye-opener to see them roping these it's just a different world man i have so much respect for horses and animals and all that and i just i don't know how they do it i really don't it's amazing i have a friend one of my roommates in college is currently on a farm in west virginia and he's got i don't know how many cattle head of cattle he does the corn he's got chicken houses I mean the whole thing you know I watch his Instagram stories I'm like so much tougher than I am just so much tougher than 6 a.m those cows need some water or something he's out there yeah I mean it's just the farm life is not one that I think I could keep up with and

that makes sense by the way that Jordy is a farmer I mean that just that makes a hundred percent I did not know that and I feel dumb for not but what a football player that dude was yeah he's a stud I got a picture somewhere I'll send you when I find it uh when I came here like five years ago I was on a horse and Jordy was leading me around because I wasn't even good enough to lead the horse myself so Jordy had it on a little rope in front of me and he was leading me around the house. The house? Outside the house. Oh, jeez. I was about to say,

what type of farm we got here? We got a farm going on. They got a couple. I bottle fed a little cow last night that was getting bottle fed because I guess his mother disowned it or whatever, however that works. Rejected it.

Sometimes they reject it. You get outside to herd. You can't always get back. That's why we're worried about the baby raccoon getting back in with Bandit. Cow life is ruthless. Ruth Friday, AJ. Jordy, I think Jordy can still play, huh?

You saw him with those horses last night. Jordy can still play if he had to. Oh, he could definitely still play, yeah. But that lifestyle, the NFL lifestyle, is one that I had to think about. Do I want to go back and kick balls? And it's not just can I kick balls well.'s like okay do i want to get into the lifestyle of 17 weeks being groundhog's day just every day being groundhog's day and uh you know just your

happiness depends on whether or not everybody else does their job right it's like i don't know if i want to do that i don't know if that's what i want to get into you know well and jordy is one of the few professional athletes, too, to where his whole identity was never wrapped up in football. It was what he did. It wasn't who he was. He always loved it. He's going to work harder than anybody and do everything right.

But he wasn't. You could tell it was never like, oh, man, I need the attention. I need people to look at me. I need to be scoring touchdowns. No, he's fine doing whatever. He's secured himself. So it's cool to see, see actually a guy that good that doesn't like have to have that attention um somebody sent me a tweet of jordy nelson just hitting a softball maybe seven miles so is he just a great he's i bet you he's good at everything huh basketball i'd assume he's

really good at basketball i'd assume he's just an incredible athlete all around he's a lefty he told me actually before we came on unfortunately don't have enough room here he's like if pat needs me to show him how to really swing left-handed open that closet door get his ass back in here i would like to see watching jordy jordy jordy jordy! Jordy! Jordy! Jordy! Jordy! Jordy! Jordy!

Jordy! Jordy! Jordy! Jordy! Come here! I don't know. Oh, shucks. I gotta get back home.

You really are in a closet, huh? That house has to be so big, by the way. What is there, 12 kids in there? That's a farmhouse out in Kansas? That thing has to be enormous. This isn't his new house. We went and walked through his new house that's being built it won't be ready for probably i don't know three four months five months so what will your wife do now she'll get the blueprint and then she'll do what uh chip and joanna gaines do kind of map it

out get a 3d layout and then do the whole thing no they're she already did all that i mean they're there's stone up on the outside they haven't put the drywall up yet she's already done that from before they broke ground. She's worked with the architects and all that. Now they're picking out rooms and walls. There's a million things to do for a house. I have no idea how they do it. You should check the walls for raccoons.

I mean, where his new house is is on hundreds of acres, and it's really cool sitting up. You can look over. I was like, man, it would be nice. Do you ever just sit up here and shoot predators like coyotes or something? This is on a ton of hundreds of acres, and it's really cool sitting up. You can look over. I was like, man, it would be nice. Like, do you ever just sit up here and shoot predators? Hundreds of acres. Does he have a lake?

He doesn't even have a pond. He's got a fucking lake out there. There's a pond. Uh-oh. Jordy! That's Kansas. Jordy! He must have had to go outside to find the neighbor's trampoline.

Hundreds of acres? Oh. Uh-oh. Here he is. is thank you Jordy oh look my chair is messing up no you're good we'd sit Jordy your back elbows too high. My back elbow is too high? Yeah. Okay. Here we go. Can you see him? Wow, great stance. I saw a video of you taking a softball maybe a quarter mile. Yeah, I love playing softball. That's what we do in the summertime.

You just played on one of the thousand acres you have out there in Kansas? That and the different tournaments around in small town Kansas. He took over the charity softball game in Green Bay and Appleton, Wisconsin that Brett Favre had and Donald Driver, and then Jordy was the host. Oh, so you're like a beer league softball guy. We get into softball real competitive, yeah? Yeah. Now, there's guys that can throw knucklers and stuff, isn't there?

We had a beer league softball team that was at the Local bar that we would always run into dogs big dogs house of big dogs And they had this one pitcher that was sit at the end of bar Everybody would send him drinks because he was so good at the beer league softball He said he could make it like knuckle and move and stuff like that is that accurate? Yeah, there's pitchers that can throw knuckle balls. I mean slow pitch style. Are you ASA or you trip? balls. I mean, slow pitch style. Are you ASA or U-Trip?

I think we usually played U-Trip. Oh, wow. Oh, this is like deep. What position in the field are you? Are you pitcher? What do you do? Left field or left center. In U-Trip, they can pump fake. Yes. It's very insane. So is there a height? You can't go too high, right? No, they have

a smaller arc in U-Trip. So it's coming in, like, super fast. Oh, so they're just throwing you BP with a big, fat ball in there. Yeah, there's, like, a minimum height and maximum height that the ball has to arc when it pitches in. Competitive? This is competitive softball, yeah? Yeah.

AJ saw my championship T-shirt I was wearing. Oh! Got the T-shirt! When's our next game? I might be putting one on in Manhattan, a celebrity one next year. What's your favorite gap to hit it into? Are you a dragger? No.

Pull it right center field. Yep. Dead red. Sitting dead red or what? Yeah. Hit it and run. Is there a limit on how many home runs you're allowed to hit? It varies on where you play. Some of them

like you can play in some leagues that there's no home runs. Some will be like five home runs and then they become doubles. Some are five home runs and then they become outs. Is that a metal bat or a wooden bat? Metal. Oh, I only use wooden bat. Sorry, George. Hey, I do want to put that a metal bat or a wooden bat? Metal. Oh, I only use wooden bat. Sorry, George.

Hey, I do want to put on a wood bat softball tournament, though. I think that'd be fun. That hurts. Wouldn't that make it much, much worse? It'd make it harder. You'd actually have to know how to play softball. Now the bats and balls are so juiced up that anyone can hit them out. I struck out once every softball game.

No big deal. It was my last at-bat in a softball game. Ooh. That's rough. It was. I had to walk it off, go into the dugout, and then I got kicked out of the game the next inning by Fightin' the Ump. It was a celebrity. It was a charity game. I got kicked out. It was the front page of the newspaper

the next day. It was me in the face of the umpire, and I got kicked out in the middle of the charity game. It was actually a smart move. I would recommend it to everybody that's forced to play in a charity celebrity game you get out there before the autographs allegedly right allegedly sorry i didn't do it on purpose i didn't do it on purpose thank you jordy thank you man i think i'm a lefty by the way i think i'm a lefty i think it looks natural you gotta get your hands up but not your elbow so high. How the? You can come down.

I'm teaching my boys, they're in baseball and tee ball this summer, so. Is this it, Jordy? Not straight legged. Is that it? Watch Ken Griffey Jr. That's the swing. That's who I do!

That's what my swing is! Jordy! He's trying to swing for you. Look at this. Boo! Let's see the swing. No. That's Griffey. Take a full cut. We need to see it.

I can't. I broke the TV last time. Don't matter. You have tons of money. Just do it. All right. Here you go. Hey.

Looks like you're trying to find an animal to hit with that bat. Somebody pitch me the ball. Here you go. Stop ball, stop ball, stop ball. Stop ball. Oh! It's gone! Did you see that?

Are you kidding me, Jordy? Luno Moss. But if you want to swing like Griffey, though, it's about to follow. Here we go. Pitch coming in. Oh! Gone. Gone.

Walk off. See ya. You got a bat flip, though. Oh, yeah, yeah. You're right. Had to do it. All right. Can't wait to beat your game, Jordy.

Appreciate you, buddy. Yep. Take care. Will you have a home run rule, or will I be able to just hit 10 of them? No. In celebrity games, there's no home run rules. Okay. So I can just hit 10 home runs if I need to?

Yeah. The fans come to watch home runs. Okay. I mean, that's what I'm there for. Are we doing a home run derby beforehand, maybe? Possibly. Ooh. Okay.

All right. I'm going to take all the steroids before this thing, are you testing or no no I'm gonna get on to the same stuff that some of your horses are on from what I've heard oh yeah I'm gonna get going really out there start banging it what a show dude oh this might be the dumbest show i texted you at one point i was like where are you and you're like an hour and a half away from home and i was like damn you really did just power straight through from kansas all the way back to columbus and we're thankful for that obviously for this memorial day edition but i'm thankful you went out to kansas and stayed at jordy nelson's sister's house because we're getting asked all all over the place now if they can use

the interview on there calling cowherd asked to use the jordy nelson clips other people have been asking there's been blogs written there's been a lot of talk about is jordy nelson coming back into the nfl for the green bay packers he said no to us right i mean he gave us a yes as a joke after the conversation though did you press him at all at his house did you tell him hey hey before the kids get back in here and before your wife uh hears about this maybe get back in there did you do any of that? Did you do any prodding of Jordy Nelson? Hey, pal, give me a fucking answer.

I did not. See, Jordy's the guy that I think it's a guarantee how he is, how his mindset is. Jordy doesn't need football. He doesn't care. I saw my parents yesterday, and they know Jordy decently well. I mean, they've been around him. It's been some time.

But they're like, so is he like – I'm like,'m like no he's like a farmer it's what he does his brother was a farmer runs a thousand head of cattle like jordy will be over there pretty much every day most likely he's going to do that his kids are involved and she's like oh well what is he going to get into like broadcasting or coaching i was like no it's what he does that's his life like that's where he's from so i don't think there's uh jordy if he wanted to he could strap the pads on right now and still score 12 touchdowns if the right quarterback is throwing to him. But I just don't see it happening.

12-tunners? That's how good he looked in person because I see him on the farm running down a loose calf or whatever because he didn't have time to hop on his horse and do the whole thing. He's just running it down. He's skipping cow patties too, and he stacks the cow. He gets in front of the cow and then slows the cow down he's like you know what maybe we give one more go over there in

green bay maybe i go suit it up one more time with old aaron rogers maybe we get back into the game because they're looking for a weapon that'd be awesome but it's a shame you said you saw nothing that would lead you to think that no but, but the thing that maybe we could plant, you guys planted the seed in Jordy's head. You said, hey, you never know, man. Week eight, week nine, Green Bay wants to make a run. So I guess all that Jordy needs to do, let's just keep that alive. Let's just keep that rumor out there that Jordy is going to be ready

to make the final push if the Packers want him back. And all Jordy, I guess, needs to do, he's not active really on social media, is just say every 10 days just post a video of him doing some box jumps or some bicep curls or something everyone was like oh he's still in shape he looks good you don't have to get ready if you stay ready and that's what farmer jordy nelson does he's staying ready we never know what could happen but boy i would love for that that'd be great for this show that'd be great that'd be great for us if that happened you think oh especially if you like you know what if then after like let's say jordy comes Joe. That'd be great. That'd be great for us if that happened. You think? What if then after, let's say Jordy comes back

week nine. They make a run. They win the Super Bowl. Jordy's on the field after the game. We're probably down there with press passes because we're going to have our yacht party thing going on for the week. I forgot about that. And we're asking. If you're on a yacht, say yeah! Yeah! Yeah. And we're asking him. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey.

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That's where you were at. Hey! I know Mitt does the minutes. Is there anybody that transcribes this show word for word? because we have press passes because it comes with the yacht that's where you're at hey is there i know mitt does the minutes is there anybody that transcribes this show word for word because i think that would be a fun read to see you in the interludes when you just break out in a song or some kind of chant i've told you i think i've told you this plan india's getting into podcasts, the country of India, and rather large population. Yeah. Rather large.

And I don't know how many of them love the NFL or anything like that, but let's hope we can catch them. I wanted to hire an Indian guy or somebody that spoke whatever they speak over there. What is that? I will not throw it. I wanted to throw it out there but punjabi punjabi follow me around for like a week or two so they could pick up my mannerisms and my inflection and such and then every podcast would get a transcription for them and they would just read it in the native tongue as if it was me and then all of a sudden we got a podcast in India.

Hindi. Hindi. A person that speaks Hindi rather well. Follow me around. Pick up the potential inflection and drop. All of a sudden we have a podcast in India. And that's where we want to be international with this. Good news.

There are other official languages besides Hindi. English. Okay. Ty, why are we not releasing these podcasts to india i think we are i think they're available yeah if it's on itunes it's available well this is an announcement to india we would we wouldn't mind being your sports podcast we don't talk about cricket now listen you should probably talk to somebody who knows about the sports over there but if you want something from america we'd love to do that for india come on home india what made you choose india population it's a huge

it's a billion people how about china let's go china there's a lot of people there sounds good i'm not 100 sure you like just drop audio files for people to listen to in china though i think they have a little bit more of a tighter grip on the things that are allowed to hurt over there well aren't you don't i thought you were starting in north korea and kind of working your way over no i'm actually not like the north korea i know that that's some that's a place we will never have a podcast is north korea not but by the way proud of it don't want it huh we don't want it we don't want it in north korea do no put your foot down on that no i put my foot down i said i don't like you jim colin it in north korea do no put your foot down on that one no i put my foot down i said i don't like you jim colin i don't like you i don't like the way you operate but if he was the offer now if he was

to invite me over like i was dennis robin at this point it'd strictly be for me to eat a aircraft carrier missile because of my rap song about him so you you would you would turn it down what if he made it sound like hey don't worry pat you're Pat, you're safe. I promise I won't kill you. No, I know. I know I'm not, though, because that song. I know it's because of that song that I made about him. It wasn't me, though. It was the Raptivists, which was a group that I was a part of.

I made the beats and things like that. But guilty by association. Nonetheless, whenever we're on the sideline, Super Bowl coming off of our yacht, and we are on the sideline talking to Aaron and Jordy, do you think LaFleur and Gintikens come and thank us for making this happen? And is that something you would see Gintikens potentially doing? I mean, yeah, he's a good guy, so I think it would be tough, though, because he's got to get over Ty Schmidt, Angry Mel Kiper,

and some of the disparaging comments that have been made towards him. Who did that? I don't know. Have you said something about Gunter Kuntz? Not really. I heard Ty start to chirp in when I called Gunter Kuntz a good guy. Yeah, I mean, you can't just flip-flop now. Guy's a piece of shit.

We need him out of town, jousted out of town, before the end of the season. That's a great camera shot there. Where's that coming from? I zoomed in. Okay. Look at you, Ty. All right. All right, Ty.

Getting a shot there. Foxy with the edit on the go. Yeah, Guntekun's probably, guys, never going to come around for us. Probably LaFleur as well. But, hey, we were looking out for the betterment of the team. As were they. We'll see who was right. We'll just see who was right, them or us. Did you get a chance to watch the match too yesterday it was fantastic

yes i did i was curious uh your thoughts i'm glad charles barkley was involved i think justin thomas did a very good job too current professional golfer he's like what 24 years old 20 he's super young dude like that's not an easy gig i thought he did pretty well all of our people that are in their early 20s were blacked out all weekend so the fact that justin thomas looking at you mitt 27 huh 27 oh so he's not in his early 20s he's damn near 30 at this point but neither here nor there justin thomas had an incredible performance him calling charles barkley a fat ass i think there was a couple other times didn't love the t-dub and the bk and uh because the bk the only thing is bk by the way is the bk lounge you gotta have coops okay gotta have your coops but brooks kept his bk golf in the clubhouse i guess

it's a lot of first letter of your first name first letter of your last name put them together these are our nicknames now this is how you go by phil mickelson peyton manning who's he talking to we don't know what if i was there nobody knows but i think peyton manning who's he talking to we don't know what if i was there nobody knows but i think peyton manning is pfm but i think justin thomas was maybe the guy who rose up the ranks of likeliness um the fastest yesterday because if you do recall justin thomas once had a spectator kicked out of a golf tournament for heckling him which at this particular show was not received well we buried him we told him that it was uh you're a professional athlete pal that person's paid to be there just handle your business and keep it moving can't take the heat get out of the kitchen you soft ass

but now that i know justin thomas a little bit better i hope that that person was kicked out is banned for life from pga events obviously didn't deserve to be there i like justin thomas a lot i like peyton obviously a lot i like tom brady more so than i could ever fathom because he looked like a human out there then he obviously holds one out from 150 tiger was great charles was great ernie johnson's kickoff thing was i mean it was beautifully executed from beginning to end and uh i was there for the whole time. Is this going to set up other matches? I know they're talking about other football players, baseball players want to team up with other golfers

and have these two-on-two matches. Do you think this is something that can continue? Steph Curry said he wants in. Adam Thielen was trying to get in with Ricky. I'd assume Aaron Rodgers and Max Homa are going to get their names thrown out there. But I think the people have spoken. They want me and John Daly to take on the championship.

People have spoken, AJ. What's your handicap? Don't have one. I know everybody's lying about their handicaps after fucking watching Tom yesterday. Why? Why would you lie that way? I know Tom said he's an eight. Maybe he is. I mean, this could be the second round of the year. I mean, you catch me my first

month playing versus the last month playing it's a completely different golf if you don't golf all year round what you are at the beginning of the golf season at the end of the golf season are two very different golfers and if you don't golf a lot tom said he's just trying to win a suit i'm strong with super bowl then he holds it out from 150 i mean i think tom probably is an eight or even lower than that if he was to focus on it but peyton's been golfing probably three four times a week this is all he's had to focus on for the last month and a half he looked like a very good golfer peyton looked like a very good golfer tiger's hot he's gonna win every major this year and phil mickelson was calling out his shots it was some of the most impressive shit i've ever seen in my life correct

me if you're wrong if you're an eight handicap it means you average eight over par so you shoot around 80 ish around i mean people who shoot 80s can duff shots and do what tom did plenty yeah terrible condition i'm saying it's it's very well that he is at eight they they gave out a list i forget what website it was somebody gave out a list of all the professional athletes handicaps our guy aq shipley was on there with a 7.2 yeah 7.2 handicap i ain't gonna sneeze that that's pretty good yeah i mean obviously they had to be all of them had to be nervous they didn't really look like it maybe early on they did i think peyton we talked about it before before the the thing happened like peyton's gonna gonna carry this thing and i think he did like peyton was so calm so relaxed like his his swing is nice and smooth like he looked like he played

solid pretty consistent golf the majority of the day I think that's what made I like Peyton's little jabs I like when he was going back and forth with the earpiece in about not wearing red and black for George didn't want a picture Georgia to get a picture of him in that I got thinking he's good I thought Peyton's's a great personality for this kind of thing. Peyton obviously hits a duck hook off of the opening tee box, gets a little quiet. But then once he started showcasing the incredible swing that he's been working on, I'd assume here in retirement, then he started getting relaxed, started getting loose, which by the way, Peyton then loosens up Tiger Woods, who's already playing well. Phil Mickelson's Phil Mickelson.

I think there was a couple moments where Phil got upset. I think he was a little bit upset a couple different times. But listening to them talk, and Tom, for how bad he was playing, he was nothing compared to what I think a lot of people would have acted. I mean, there would have been a couple clubs into the fairway, I'd assume. J.J. Watt was 100% right with, like, hey, the club throw has got to be coming any second now i would assume that would happen with a lot of people he just bounced back said hey this is

probably my second round of golf i played all year i loved it man i'm painting electric stories throughout the entire thing he carried it filled i mean it was just awesome i didn't tigers did you like uh tiger shorts those calves are tiny bro. Hey, there's the tweet right there. Tiger had tiny little calves. That's the first time you've seen his calves? First time I've ever seen Tiger Woods' calves. By the way, those calves have done a lot of great things athletically. So I guess I am not knocking the tiny little calves,

but I did not expect him to have those tiny ass little calves. It made me think about whenever you look at Foxy for the first time. you look at foxy and he's got those tiny little calves it's like have you ever walked anywhere like have you ever seen a hill have you ever done anything like that and here's foxy dunking basketballs and tiger woods being the greatest basketball player of all time with no calves yeah no chance i ever do leg day again after seeing tiger's calves i mean well calves pat you know calves are highly genetic like the 98.5 percent genetics like it's tough to make your calves grow. I did not know that I That's a theory that I have obviously that's not science It's a theory that I have like the cabs that you like

There's such a genetic thing that you can't really Craft them and change them like you can't other body part the boys here are saying that Foxy's dad such a fall-down drunk And his cabin is so big from trying to steady himself yeah that's right i mean it does run it does run into family is that an unwarranted shot yeah the boys i mean this is one boy that was very rude of me but that's nick's theory by the way that right there is nick's theory i will tell you if you want good calves for a whole year walk on your toes that's what Zito did Zito's calves are incredible it Zito just weighed 280 pounds oh come on it was like geez geez it's Memorial Day shoes though you know those shoes that they said would make you dunk or whatever strength shoes i had them yeah that's basically what did you really what i had a pair of strange

shoes yeah i think that's i'm i'm waiting to tear my achilles every day because of those things those things were hot in the streets there for a while i i never ever tried them on because my legs were obviously gigantic from jump but Zito did that literally for an entire year without the shoe itself, though. He just walked on his tippy toes. Oh, yeah. Paid off. Some people naturally just walk super tall

on their tippy toes at all times. Hard to take those people serious, though, right? Very difficult. You're right, man. Do it. You got to show us. Excuse me. It's tough. These it. You got to show us. Excuse me. It's tough.

These people are always tough. They got balance in their stuff. No, they're wasting energy and everything. It's hard to get some massive calves out of it, though. Maybe. I don't know. It's hard. You better have something to show if you walk around every day like that.

Yeah, because it's not a good life if you walk around like that. No offense to anybody that does it. It's not your fault, obviously. I mean, I'm sure you can change it. Would you say it's not a good life if you walk around like that. No offense to anybody that does it. It's not your fault, obviously. I mean, I'm sure you can change it. Would you say it's tough to take them serious? Yes. As soon as I see somebody walking like that towards me, I'm like, well,

I'm going to let somebody else handle the fucking talking here because I should not start speaking because I'm sure what this person has to say is very important and all that stuff, but I am not going to talk about that. I got questions. When did we start with the calves probably from birth no not birth probably from maybe 11 12

months when they start walking my calves are always like it feels like it may be three seconds away from cramping up completely oh yeah they're always just rock solid my calves always rock solid it's a problem because i get on thank your dad thank thank your dad for that it is tim tim has cramping up completely. Oh, yeah. They're always just rock solid. My calf's always rock solid. It's a problem. Because I get on... Thank your dad. Thank your dad for that. It is. Tim has the same thing

and Jason has the same thing too. So your theory does seem to be accurate. But I get on... I put on like... Let's say I put on rollerblades because I'm hanging out with the Diggs family.

Okay? Okay. My calf... What was that all about? I mean, it's a normal activity that most 33-year-old men just naturally do daily. Well, I haven't done it, and let me tell you why. Are you playing roller hockey? My calves lock up.

I can't do it. Is this roller hockey on a tennis court, or are you just going around the neighborhood? Well, I haven't been able to do it for like 10 years because my calves just lock up as soon as that thing. And then the muscle on the front outside part of my shin locks up too. It's like.'s what my entire area feels like is that's getting rear naked choke so i don't get to enjoy those types of things so but little baby calved foxy and tiger woods and emmet they get the roller blade all they want i bet you could i bet you could overcome this you you absolutely could i don't think i can i've tried plenty of occasions occasions. What's worse, the calf cramp, foot cramp, or the cramp under your chin? Hamstring cramp is the worst cramp.

I mean, yes. What happens under your chin? That might be because of fat, but I don't know. Like your esophagus? Yeah, it just cramps. It's a charley horse under your jaw. That's because you've got to chew your food. Is it lockjaw? Tigs. No, you're joking. Just another shot. with charley horse under your jaw so you gotta chew your food uh

no you're joking just another shot i believe lockjaw is the jaw here i think what you're referring to is the journey you yawn too much and when your body yawn it just cramps up we need to talk about your hydration you hear me what do you mean i can't drinking cramps from yawns. I literally drink Gatorade every day. I'm good. I'm in the game. This dude's getting cramps yawning. I haven't really heard of the under neck cramp, under chin cramp. Jugular. The hamstring cramp's the worst, though. Middle of the night.

You're going to straighten that whole thing out? How about, Pat, you're on an airplane and not a nice private flight like you get to do. You're on a commercial flight stuck in the window and one of your hammies cramps, and you've got to find a way to straighten that out. You ever had a rib cramp? A rib cramp will get you to a lot of... Well, this chair gives me a lot of back cramps. This chair...

You'll see me start... That's why I've been sitting sideways on this thing, because it can give me a a little bit of a stretch this chair is not good for me to be sitting for four hours i don't think cramps so i guess are all hydration and i drink a lot of water and i still cramp so i think that's a bunch of bullshit you remember whenever they told us to eat bananas as kids that'll go that's a bunch of bullshit too everything we've ever been told is a lie and i don't like it if you sit for eight hours a day, it's definitely better than smoking. Come on. See?

That sounds like a bunch of bullshit to me. I don't know how inhaling cancer wouldn't be worse than just sitting down for eight hours a day. But it depends what scientists are doing to study. I'm going to go buy them both, though. Are you trying to... Is Nick trying to say if you sit down for eight hours a day and you don't do anything else, that your obesity will eventually get you? Oh, come on. Call everybody fat, Nick?

That's bad for circulation. They got posters all over cubicle offices all over the world. Yeah, but then you have to ask for permission to go to the bathroom, don't you? No.

Some places. Some places. They do. Or elementary school. I almost pooped my pants at school one time because they wouldn't let me go to the bathroom.

Why wouldn't they let you go? They said I had already used my bathroom. I was pretty antsy in school, obviously. I'd like to get up and go around and see things. Was this in high school? That was funny. Elementary school, AJ. Okay.

Jesus. But high school was antsy as well. That's why all the teachers hated me. Who donated a gym to that high school Was antsy as well That's why all the Teachers hated me Who donated The gym to that High school You shouldn't have Done it

Never got used to it You can't just Throw money at Everything that you've Messed up It's not going to Fix everything I didn't mess it up

They fucking did What'd they mess up Everything Everything Everything You name it No I'm joking School's good

There's just a couple Teachers that are Having sex with students And stuff like that What Were you mad you weren't on the list no no but we knew what was happening though that's why we felt the beef from said teachers i i mean it was it's just like dudes with a girl male teacher male teachers with high school students yeah yeah i thought it's highly highly illegal isn't it yeah Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah, they went to jail. Oh, yeah. They're in jail currently right now. Oh, okay. But all these teachers always had a beef with me.

You know, like noted beef. It made no sense to me. It honestly made no sense. Turns out, they're probably all trying to have sex with the same women we're trying to have sex with. They knew there was a cock in the hen house. Didn't know. I had no idea.

It made no sense. It made so much sense years later here as it started to roll out. Like, and another one. And another one. And another one. And another one. And another one. And another one. And another one. And another one. And another one. And another one. And another one. And another one. And another one. And another one. And another one. And another one. And another one. And another one. And another one later here as i started to roll out like and another one i was like that makes a lot more sense now that's why i wasn't voted male athlete of the year that's voted on by students though no teachers at our high school because the teachers weren't all in control that fucking teacher would have voted for himself. If he could have. That's why he didn't want to meet with one.

Wait, so was there male teachers getting with students as well as female teachers getting with students? Just male. The female teachers have not been caught yet. Oh. Do you want to put any names out there? No, I don't know if that's true, because I would not have been the one that they would have tried to fornicate with anyways. So you really do have it. There's at least one teacher from your high school that had to serve jail time for that?

Two, allegedly three. Serving. A lot, dude. This is a real thing. We're not joking about this. This is a very real thing. And the teachers that did get caught up into this hated me, which makes me feel good. By the way, put this on my tombstone. Pedophiles hate me.

Yeah. So. Hey, look at you feel good. I by the way put this on my tombstone pedophiles hate me Jared from subway had me in his VIP. He doesn't like you now though. Yeah hated you hated me immediately upon exit. Yeah Now Jared's gonna be one of your biggest fans when he gets out of prison. Wait a minute. No, too late. I'll punch him right in the mouth. Right in the mouth. Ruined Subway for me. I can't even eat Subway. I used to enjoy the hell out of Subway. Can't do it.

Yeah, stinks. Just can't do it. What does a guy like that do once he does get out of prison? Probably just buries himself in his basement. What did he say? Quiznos. Still open. There's a couple of those open.

Yeah, the Sprint guy. Can you hear me now guy switched from what? Sprint to Brian? Yeah, he's a piece of those open yeah the sprint guy or that real good hear me now guy switched from what sprint yeah he's a piece of shit traitor what why are you hating on a guy picking up another deal whenever another company dropped him hey you know that he's a paycheck loyalty pandemic loyalty he did it well before these times yeah look at him now he's safe his family's taken care of yeah he should have been have been loyal to Sprint. And he's got great service. Are they? How are you not loyal to a carrier network for cell phones? Hey, what's up with this 5G stuff? They're marketing 5G right now. Oh, yeah?

Isn't that just killing things up there? Killing people. A lot of people. Yeah, killing animals. It's very nice. 5G is? Fast internet, though. Bro, it's going to be so fast, though, that internet.

So 4G doesn't kill things, but 5G does? Yeah. There's a line. And what are we? Habitual line crossers. Just can't help it. They set a standard. And we said,

excuse me, we're going to sneak in LTE here. Right after the 4G. They're like, here's LTE. And then somebody was like, it's like that baseball bat game. Oh,

4G. No. LTE. No. 5G Oh no God I think that's what's going on I mean I don't know the science behind it

But I think there's some real shit Popping off in the sky It's all the nodes they put out Because like LTE Is just the big towers Lift nodes But then the nodes Are like the ones they put on

Light fixtures And there's like a hundred of them In like a block radius So like you'll see on buildings They'll put nodes on it And that's why it's like 100 of them in a block radius. You'll see on buildings they'll put nodes on it. That's why it's a lot more concentration of the data stuff. Do you guys have 5G yet?

Does it show up on your phone? I can't even upload a photo on my Twitter at my house. I have no idea. Indy was one of the test cities, but you can't find it anywhere. I got it. Are you currently on 5G right now? Yeah, I just turned it off for all of us.

Back to Wi-Fi. I'll get off Wi-Fi. What do you want me to do? Which one? He's sneaking into 5G in here. I love 5G. He's sneaking. Zito, right here.

AJ, did you watch Lance Armstrong? Yes, I did see a good chunk of that. I really enjoyed it. How many are there? I'm looking forward to it. Two. There's only two? One more next week, yeah, so four total hours.

I think he's a guy who's just got to the point where he does not care if you absolutely hate him because it feels as if that is the way this is all being portrayed he's like hey this is a guy who was set in his ways was obviously a savage when it came athletically but he had a lot of things about him that make you go oh i hate that guy and i think that's been his entire life basically and i think they've done they dug into that a little bit, obviously, about his, what's that called? Your actual dad, the biological dad, Gunther Sinner, whatever his name was. And then his stepfather, the Armstrong guy. He even in there was like, maybe I pushed him too hard to win at all costs.

It just feels like Lance Armstrong was this human that was created just to be a savage competitor. And he did not give a single damn about anybody else or anything stopping him got a lot accomplished obviously those epos which i did not know exactly what lance armstrong did wrong back in the day i just knew that he did wrong it sounds like the epos were something he was definitely going to do and then whatever else he got into as well whatever would put him up on top and it felt like there was a lot of a lot of bodies kind of all around people that got left into dust because of his ability to say i'll do absolutely anything to be great well i thought it was interesting too when they they go back and

they play clips of interviews he did when he was like 21 23 years old like lance is the same dude now than he was when he was like 23 they show he seems like kind of like a young arrogant cocky dude well that what is he 52 53 i don't know whatever he seems very very similar to what he was like he doesn't make any apologies like he basically feels justified in what he did and the whole doping situation i understand cycling it seems like everybody's doing it so you're just doing it to try to try to stay even with the field and then lance is just such a monster he's able to win so much but the thing that i think people hate him for is like he he tore a lot of people down he got a lot of people a lot of families and husband wives teammates he really threw him under the bus and and lied till he possibly couldn't lie anymore i guess and he eventually admitted it to oprah

didn't he when he said he finally doped yeah i think the oprah got him i i think you're 100% right though about him being the same exact person as old. At 15, they were lying about his age so he could go compete in triathlons, and he was just beating the shit out of everybody. And then his first trip to the United States Olympic team or whatever, they were training, and the people that were already on the Olympic team, they were like, we had heard of this legend of Lance, this guy from Texas that was a complete different ballgame.

And they talk about those five-minute sprints where you go five minutes with the wind and then you turn and go five minutes against the wind. And the guy was like, yeah, we're doing the sprints like with the wind or whatever. I was like, what is this? And then we turned around. We're going against the wind.

And he was just a machine. And then when that five minutes was up, he called the guy a fucking pussy for not going harder with him. It's just like, damn. I don't know how but think it was mentioned in the thing whenever you become a cycler right like natural instinct is to do a team sport maybe another sport to do something cross-country people have to do this cycling

does this you have to be a mental warrior where you're a loner by nature right you're all by yourself it's you and your thoughts it was interesting to hear him talk about what he would think about during his races, planning plans and things of that nature. It was just, I don't know that the Lance Armstrong saga is an interesting one because he was so good. And because he was so good, so much good come from it, right? With the live strong thing strong thing and then his just stubbornness to admit guilt on anything burned it all down and i think without that stubbornness by the way he never becomes the guy that he was to begin with so it's like a live by the sword die by the sword type thing lance armstrong story is like a stubborn savage guy who just went down fighting all the way

to the end and could not be like yeah yeah, I fucked up and ruined everything. Yeah, and he's not going to stop fighting anytime soon. I don't think he'll ever stop fighting against people saying – the start of the docu-series or documentary or whatever is him explaining the story in a restaurant where a group of five or six dudes are flicking him off, yelling at him. He wanted to deal with me, would have punched that guy in the face. But I bought their meal, and I said, make sure you tell him that, yelling at him. He wanted to deal with me would have punched that guy in the face. But I bought their meal and I said,

make sure you tell him that Lance sends his love. Where'd it go, Lance? Where'd it go? They talked about how brutal it was to be around him when he was younger too because he was so damn competitive. Every single thing they did, he would make it a competition. What are we learning here?

Lance Armstrong, Michael Jordan, Tiger, Peyton, learning here lance armstrong michael jordan tiger peyton tom to a certain extent just the most competitive humans seem to be the ones that go to the top but there seems to be a lot of things that have to fall by the wayside if your competitive juices continue now peyton right i don't has a family everything worked out so i don't think a lot of i don't know i to me it was great team If your competitive juices continue. Now, Peyton, right, has a family. Everything worked out. So I don't think a lot of, I don't know. To me, he was a great teammate, good friend.

I don't think you hear. What about Tom, too? Tom almost had a divorce, right? He talked about that on Howard Stern. He almost lost his family, but he was able to change. So I guess maybe not Tom or Peyton, but Michael, Lance, Tiger. It seems like those guys that are up in that – by the way, Serena's another one.

You say Phelps. Serena's one that's way up. Phelps is another one. Serena, though, has built a family, and so she's in there with Peyton and Tom. She married the founder of Reddit, didn't she? Yeah, he follows me on Twitter. I have not sent my one DM that I could send yet.

I haven't pulled the trigger yet. You should say congratulations to the marriage. That would be a good one. They've been married for a long time. Have a kid, too. That would be a little bit late. Second kid, though. Second kid comes, I'll say.

Anniversary, I think I already missed a couple. So don't want to just show up at the third birthday. But I think Phelps falls in there. It's like whenever you have that super competitive drive, there's some other things that obviously have to lack, I believe. Well, there's certain things that some are willing to sacrifice and some aren't, I guess. And those ultra, like the best of the best,

there's something in their brain that just makes them different than everybody else. Like when you watch the Lance stuff, like, geez, from the jump the jump from a young age this dude was a brash confident guy that was just willing to take anybody on he's not he's not scared to talk about it either you know every time i start getting into fitness a little bit i'm like i'm gonna do a triathlon i'm gonna do a mini marathon i'm gonna do something of that nature and then you watch that thing for Lance last night You're like well I'm nowhere near that level of fitness

There's no way I could do that There's a big difference between a triathlon And a mini marathon I don't know if there's mini marathons There's half marathons Well there's half triathlons too I've looked into this Yeah they call it like sprint triathlon

You should do one Drop my bat I think everybody knows that Not everybody They call it like sprint track. You should do one. Drop my bat. I think everybody knows that. Not everybody. I mean, there could be somebody watching there and said, wow, that was a lot of loud noises. What was that? Someone on the roof again?

Who is that? By the way, no, there's nobody on the roof today either. Memorial Day, but also. We'll move on. I went swimming this weekend. I think I'm a fish again for pleasure or for a workout? workout I did it for workout

I'm trying to find a cardio what did you do? show me what you did a little bit well obviously I did when I would shoot my basketball and it would rebound into the deep end I would have to swim down okay I'd swim

head above water because i don't want to do the whole thing i want to do that head above water kick every once in a while okay let's do this then i would get the ball and in my head i'm like okay lifeguard here now i would swim sideways with the one with the one you know what i mean because you can't because the ball was so big so there's a lot of that you know what i mean almost took the tv out again so there's a lot of that a lot of that was your that was your workout was retrieving the the rebounds yeah because i have a uh my filter thing the uh what's that called the water shoots out of uh the jets they all filter down to towards the deep end.

I wish we could change that so they would come there. So if you lose anything in the pool, it's going to end up in the deep end. And I'll tell you what, when you get down there, it's you in the water. That's it, pal. It's deep. It's like 12 feet, I think. I think I'm like 12 feet down there. You have a diving board?

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Mm-hmm. Did you do anything off the diving board? Nah, because I don't want to blow up my eardrum With the pressure hitting the water off the diving board Because I got to go big or go home And I'm going to go big, obviously Don't need to hit my face off the water

Alright, that makes sense, man I hope you're not sore today Thank you, that means a lot Jadavion Clowney Is going to the Browns or the Titans From what I've been told By Charles Robinson of Yahoo Charles Robinson of Yahoo. Charles Robinson of Yahoo

lives in Houston. Jadavion Clowney works out in Houston. Charles Robinson seems to be in the Jadavion Clowney camp at this point. He's saying he's going to go to the Browns or the Titans. If he does that, do the Browns automatically become contenders there in the AFC

North with him, helmet swinger, that entire defense with a loaded offense and a new coaching staff? And how about if he goes down to the Titans? Which team do you think it immediately helps more if Jadavion Clown has to go on him? I think he would help the Titans more right away. I think the Browns may not need his services as much as the Titans might. But the Browns, first off,

how does anyone have any kind of opinion on the Browns? What are they going to be? Kevin Stefanski seems to be saying and doing all the right things. They have a ton of players. They've got talent. The roster looks great. But who knows what they're going to be this year? Do you have any idea?

Somebody said they're going to Super Bowl. Whoa. Yeah, okay. That happened a lot last year. Last offseason, the Browns were about to win the Super Bowl. Whoa. Yeah, okay. That happened a lot last year. Last offseason, the Browns were about to win the Super Bowl. And I think before that, though, no other offseason did anybody say the Browns were going to win the Super Bowl. That's true, and they missed the playoffs. So I don't know.

I guess maybe it'll be good for the Browns. Maybe it's going to be really good for the Browns to not have all this offseason hype and not all of this pressure placed on their team from everyone outside of their facility. And now maybe Stefanski is the answer. I mean, they're going through coaches so quickly. Maybe Stefanski is the guy. It's not an easy job, but you have a ton of talent. They definitely have a much more talented roster than plenty of other teams in the league.

Is this fair for Baker Mayfield? What is this, his third head coach? Yeah. Will we ever get a fair assessment on baker mayfield he's in his third head coach already third offensive system will baker mayfield ever get a chance to just have a little contingency to make sure he can really reach the ceiling that he's been reaching for yeah baker mayfield might have been a little bit out of shape last year and made some bad decisions but has he ever been really given a shot here now we got three new head coaches

three new offensive systems will we ever know if baker mayfield is a good quarterback in the nfl will you ever get a fair shot at this entire thing well if kevin stefanski is able to stay around so let's say four years from now five years from now, Stefanski's still the head coach of the Browns. That obviously means Baker is playing well, unless for some reason after a year or two they trade him away or he gets hurt and someone ends up coming in and taking his job. But if he can keep Stefanski around, which is something that is very difficult to do as a head coach in Cleveland,

is to stay there for more than a couple years, then hey, yeah, then it proves that Baker can play. But it is tough. It wouldn't be easy to have three different head coaches in your first three years, and now this offseason, too, when you're learning a new scheme. For anybody. You're doing it all through Zoom. Oh, please.

That wouldn't be easy for anybody. You don't hear Alex Smith crying about it. He went through the same thing. Plus, Baker. We don't hear Baker crying about it either, though. We hear Pat crying about it. Baker's not crying. I'm crying about it for Baker.

He handpicked Freddie Kitchens. Good pick. In hindsight,picked Freddie Kitchens. Good pick. In hindsight, that was a bad decision. That was a bad decision. You kind of think Stefanski will be good, though. Look at how they did in the playoffs against the Niners and stuff like that. The Packers this year. How about the Saints?

How about the fucking Saints in the playoffs? Can we give the Harvard guys or Yale, wherever the hell he went to, a little bit of a chance here?ez louise yeah digs what's what's your problem it's cleveland aj it's cleveland big rivalry i know you stay true to your rivalry games yeah who do you have a rivalry with michigan that team up north you hate them michigan that team up north. Yeah, Michigan-Ohio State is an above-average rivalry game, I'd say. Do you wear the dark blue ever? I have blue clothing, yeah. What? Peyton wouldn't even wear red and black

because he didn't want people to think it was potentially Georgia colors. Yeah, I guess I don't wear, like, I don't have a lot of things, I guess, that are full-blown, like, maize and blue, what Michigan is. So this is, like, in Ohio, born and raised, out the womb, there's a town that is a state up north that we hate forever and ever. Amen. That's kind of how it is for people from Ohio. Obviously, there's extremes.

Some people take it to the far extreme on their hatred towards Michigan. They won't say the word Michigan. They won't wear anything blue. Yeah, I get it, but I'm okay wearing blue and saying Michigan. I think when you do that, you put them on a pedestal, and it's like, wow, man. If you're not saying their name, if you're not wearing blue, Michigan's taking up a lot of space in your brain, man. For me, I don't like it that way.

I think that's showing too much respect. Oh, so you think they don't deserve any respect, Michigan people? Oh, no, they deserve respect. They have great players and coaches. But I think if someone was doing that to me, if I was at Michigan right now, obviously they haven't fared well against Ohio State as of late. But if I knew all the things that were happening

because of how their hatred towards our team is, I'd be like, man, okay, well, good. At least they really care about us. We really take up a lot of space in their life. So you think that the Ohio State hatred of Michigan is much stronger than the Michigan hate of Ohio State? Yeah, it's been weird, though, now because the last 15 years, Ohio State has just dominated.

It wasn't like that. Let them know, AJ. Talk that shit, AJ. Yeah. Talk that shit. Okay. Got the Buckeye red on right now. Yeah.

You're right. Would you let any of your kids go to Michigan? That's a good question. If they got a scholarship. If you get a scholarship, my kids can go anywhere they want they get a scholarship to michigan and ohio state the only two schools that offer scholarships and the kid chooses to go to michigan how fast are you denouncing his relationship with you should i make him change his last name? Yes. Your last name's Quinn now.

Michigan-Notre Dame rivalry is pretty big, too. Is it? When they play. I thought Notre Dame was with Stanford. I thought USC. They have them with everybody. Notre Dame's going with everybody. Because Notre Dame doesn't have a conference.

Oh, yeah. Who's trying to get that gig? I think Urban's trying to get Notre Dame job, right? And everybody says he's trying to get that job? I don't think so. I don't think he wants to live in South Bend. I think he wants to keep doing what he's doing. South Bend, Indiana.

We apologize for that shot. Jeez. It's not a shot. No, I'm saying he spent time there before, but I just... Diggs lives in South Bend? Hey, here's a guy that lives in South Bend. Anthony DeGiglia lives up in South Bend. What's your problem with South Bend? You're a resident of that place. Anthony DeGiglia lives up in South Bend.

What's your problem with South Bend? You're a resident of that place. He's more well-known than Mayor Pete there. There's not a lot to do there. Yeah, what happened to Mayor Pete? I haven't heard from him lately. Well, you know, Bernie and Joe kind of started going off, and then Pete kind of fell by the wayside, and then you heard a couple people say,

he's just a fucking mayor. What are we even thinking about here? And then he kind of fell off. And then the quarantine hit. And it was like, well, he had to take care of his town and move forward. Whenever I saw his signs, I thought they were construction signs, like for a new house. So maybe his sign game was bad, too. That's why he lost to Bernie. I mean, we're not 100% sure what happened to him.

We were looking to get him on the show, though, whenever he was about to make that run. I had some real questions for him. Like what? What would you like to ask him? You're a mayor. How are the potholes in your city? That's question one. Then off that answer we go.

That's all you need is a great icebreaker. Well, if he says, well, we have a pothole problem, I'm like, well, how are you going to be president? Can't even take care of the goddamn cement in your town. Let's talk about it. Or if he said, we got great potholes, I'm like, all right. This guy knows how to water his grass This is a guy

Maybe that deserves To be a president Of the United States Of America But then he kind of Disappeared quarantine And we haven't heard From him yet

Diggs goes up there Literally every other day Though Diggs Do you see Mayor Pete Around town I don't know Who Mayor Pete is

Oh Jesus Is he serious Yes he's serious PDB. Diggs lives in his own little Diggs world. He's got quite the rivalry going with him for the love of the town, so he obviously doesn't want to give him the respect, AJ,

like you just talked about. Oh, so you're just not talking about it because you don't want to. You know me, big politics guy, so I definitely know who you're talking about. It's a mayor. So that's politics, right? Yeah, and he wasn't for president there.

He was a legit, a mayor from Indiana was in a real conversation for potential president. That was a wild time to be alive. Oh, yeah. Lightning rod. That was a wild time to be alive there with Pete Buttigieg. I want Sleepy Joe to be a president. What's that? I want Sleepy Joe.

Joe Donnelly. Joe Donnelly. We're in on Joe Donnelly. I'll tell you what. Indiana's been a hotbed for politics. So obviously, vice president is currently from Indiana sleepy Joe Donnelly though had no shot in the last election he did not even know it I don't think and we were we were trying to let his campaign know that he was getting slaughtered in the campaigning absolutely the only messaging

that was getting sent to us was how bad this guy was at his job like we're talking about 20 30 commercials a night about him being bad so he obviously loses it's the big upset of uh election night like something we did not see coming incumbent incumbent incumbent incumbent joe donnelly loses to blah blah it's like joe no my joe we tried to tell you i run into joe on a plane on a plane i run into him and i sit and i go joe i try to get a message to your people you you had no shot in that fucking election he goes ran into a 70 million dollar campaign pat that's what he said to me now he's uh he's at notre dame i think he's a professor at notre dame in south bend oh wow look at you just cozying up to all these politicians. No, I was in first

class. He was in coach. Well, because even if he if you're a politician, you got to fly in coach just for the optics. Like you don't want the optics of flying first. Yeah, I'm probably not going to do that, by the way, if I ever get elected in something and I'll just screenshot me paying for the ticket because there's no way I'm sitting back there with all the Corona

either. There's no, especially now in this chance. My knees have too many surgeries. I can't be sitting in nine E if I need, I, I need to be up front with the legs up on the wall. Preferably, you know what I mean? So first, the first seat of first class. Yeah. I'll be the greeter too.

I'm like a Walmart greeter onto the plane. Hey, welcome. We'll go into Orlando. The airport is a shithole. So get ready for that on your flight. They'll get you water. They'll get you waters. They'll get you water. Thanks for coming on. Do you want peanuts or Cheez-Its? What do you want? Well, we don't do peanuts anymore

because there's an allergy. Good luck. We don't do anything. They don't do anything on planes right now. I don't think there's any water, any snacks, nothing. I forget who. Somebody had just flown, like the other day I talked to. And they said, yeah, there's no water. They get a water.

You get a water when you walk in, basically. It's like you can snag one, and then you sit down, and nobody talks to you, and then you land, and then you're out. Oh, that's amazing. Not too shabby there. Not too shabby. Yeah, they won't wake me up to see if I'm thirsty. That's great. I do.

I'm over that. I'm over it a little. You want anything? To go back to fucking sleep? Ever heard of it? Ever heard of it, lady? The harder it was to get to sleep. Pat, do you like to chat up the seatmate next to you on the plane if you don't know him?

Nah. Do you like if they try to talk with you? Yeah, I don't mind a good conversation. I don't mind a good conversation, but I'm not going to interrupt. Now, granted, this is going to sound... I fly so much now at this point. It's almost like it's I flying is just another thing. So it's like if a conversation is to be had, I'll have one.

If I'm intrigued by what they're doing on the plane, I will certainly be curious about it. But if it's just a standard stooge sitting there, we are not talking. Let's go. We just so happen to be next to each other. You know what I mean? Yeah, I get it. I saw a guy picking his toenails one of the last times I flew. What?

Had his feet up with his fingers getting his toenails. Oh, yeah. That guy was trying to get slapped. Trying his best. I didn't say anything. I just kept my headphones in, my Raycons in, and just kept going about my thing. You did keep your Raycons in, Pat. That's amazing that you even mentioned that. Really? Yeah yeah do you know why raycon is awesome do you have

any idea well i do know and i don't know which reason you want to hear first i would like to tell you why i think they're awesome i mean think i hit it i hit it i hit it i hit it i hit it first you guys sound just just like him exactly i thought i was listening to it hey so good job you know snoop dogg cardi b melissa etheridge she's not the lady from the dog videos that i messed up last week i think yeah she does what She does. What song does she sing, Pat? It's a whole nother song. It's been a long day without you, my friend. And I'll tell you all about it when I see you again.

Etheridge. Okay. Well, guess what? I don't know if that's her, Pat. Yeah, she covered it. It is. She's dead water. Oh, she didn't cover it? Mm-hmm. Okay. well, guess what? I don't know if that's her, Pat. Yeah, she covered it. It is. She's dead water. Should I cover it? Mm-hmm. Okay, well, guess what? You know your Raycon earbuds,

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Yeah! Great read, AJ! AJ, that was an incredible ad read right there for them. Thank you. It's not really an ad read at this point because when you're having fun, it's not working. You know? And an ad read would be working. It's just so much fun to talk about the Raycons E25 earbuds.

Ain't that right, AJ? That is right. I bet Ray J is a big fan of the show. AJ, AJ. I would assume Ray J likes the show. Actually, I have no idea if that's the case. I know nothing about the man. A little bit, I guess.

I do know a little bit about him. It's a pretty large bit, I have no idea if that's the case. I know nothing about the man. A little bit, I guess. I do know a little bit about him. It's a pretty large bit, I guess. More than average. Get it? Russ Wilson, Russell Wilson, he's an American hero. He gave away 300,000 meals yesterday because of a closest to the pin shot. Tiger Woods was the only one who did not get another 100 000 from meals from russell wilson but also russell wilson standout yankee and seahawk said that he wouldn't mind seeing antonio brown become a seattle seahawk

and from jeremy fowler of espn there's an entire report coming out that nobody in the NFL has a clue what suspension Antonio Brown faces coming back. Nobody knows. Could he be suspended an entire season because there's a lot of allegations against him? Could he potentially only have to be suspended a couple games? Nobody knows because the NFL hasn't even started looking into it yet because the NFL won't start looking into it, actually, until a team shows real desire to sign him he had a workout with the Saints he got sent home after that he made it

I just got home from the NL made a banger after that trip but I'm not sure there was enough interest from the Saints for the NFL to do its investigation to see how long the suspension is but if Russell Wilson lands Antonio brown up there and for some reason he can play this season i mean that's immediately a massive benefactor for the seahawks he is such a good football player which is why it's so sad all the shit that's happened off the field he is immediately target number one whatever field he goes to and not only in the receiving game but in the return game and with what defenses will have to do with him every every single person that's ever been around him says he

works his ass off not a single person has ever questioned his work ethic on whether or not he'd be ready to be back or not it's everything else and i think seattle is an environment and a culture that could potentially handle the antonio brown coming into their locker room you would think that they definitely can. And what makes me wonder, though, is the league really, like, what is it going to take for them to figure out what his suspension, what his punishment may be? Like, so say the Seahawks, can't they make a call to the league office

and say, hey, obviously we're not going to sign the guy right now, but to even consider signing him, we need to know what his future may look like this coming season. So can you please give us some kind of idea of what you're going to do with them like can't they ask that i would assume that a team would have to do that and does that automatically start the investigation then or is there like a list of those types of investigations that are like yeah we'll put it in the line i wonder if pete carroll who i think would love antonio brown i think his big thing is like we compete every day here be yourself do your thing they don't have a lot

of weapons other than lock it right meccaf too okay meccaf lock it in antonio brown automatically makes russell wilson happier i was a great olsen that would be that would be a hell of an offense so pete carroll's just got to call in i don't know how that works aj honestly like because when sean payton worked him out did he call the nfl first and say hey if we were to sign him how many games would we have to miss him and then did the nfl just say and we're not looking into that right now i don't know how that whole process goes i don't know if there's ever been a situation like this before where it's a guy who, by all accounts, number one or top three wide receiver in the NFL, top three at their position in the NFL, has a waiting suspension that nobody knows about what it is. And who decides that? Do they project what they think it would be?

Like, how do they get an accurate projection if it doesn't do the full investigation? I don't know how it works out but i know that the seahawks immediately become a much better team if they get old a b on that squad no he'd be huge for the seahawks but i think for antonio brown like does he have an agent now didn't rosenhouse leave him during the everything yeah i i would assume that that friend he told he said that a b has to get mental help for him to go back to help him or something like that. I think Rosenhaus set out a thing like, hey, you need to do this before we continue to work together. And I believe that was in the middle of AB's real interesting part of his life there. And AB came out against Rosenhaus and said he's the biggest scammer and all this stuff. I would assume that there's a way for that relationship to get back together, but it feels like, and I know it's

only been a little bit of time and you can't judge somebody just off of one or two weeks or three weeks or a month of action. It feels like Antonio Brown has quieted down all the off the field noise that he was in chaos that was following him there for a little bit. I mean, when he came out of the court in those cowboy boots with the ankle bracelet on and sprinted and then the rap song. I mean, it was a wild time to be alive there for AB. He did hire a new agent as well. Who's the new agent? Ed Wasilowski of EMG Sports.

You know EMG at all? I don't think I know anybody from EMG. I don't know Ed, but I would hope Ed and any lawyers working for Antonio Brown should be pushing the league and be like, hey, you're hindering my ability to work next year with this hanging over my head. Sure, I messed up. Of course, I own it. But you've got to let me know.

Is it four games? Is it eight games? Am I no games? What am I doing? What do I need to do to get back on track so a team will sign me? Because with that hanging out there and all the uncertainty, why would you bring him in? Well, and then what will the NFL say?

Well, we've got to see about all these allegations that you have because they're pretty large. If these allegations come to fruition in the courtroom, then whatever we decide to suspend you now is going to be subject to change from that. I just assume. Is he awaiting some kind of – he's not awaiting like a trial though, is he? But what's going on with his legal –

I think he's awaiting a couple. Oh. You got to remember the bag of dicks at the truck, right? And there was an alleged. He needs to plea those down and get that situated. Well, then he has the. The moving. The moving.

Yeah. Allegedly threw a rock at a guy in a moving truck. And then he didn't pay him. So they said it was robbery and battery or something like that. But I feel like that one could get settled. Because that sounds like the truck driver was, I'm not saying anything, I don't know the situation, but that one seemed like that one got blown up a bit more than it actually was.

But you see the videos that were coming out of Antonio Brown at that time, his IG Lives, were absolute chaos. So it was good that it happened because it got him in jail and hopefully gave him a chance to hit rock bottom. But the one I would assume is the sexual assault allegation that is out there. I assume that's the one where the NFL is like, we have no idea what's going to happen with this. We can't accurately tell you how many games you're suspended

if you're ever allowed back in the league, by the way. I guess there's multiple situations. I almost forgot about it because there was such a moment in time when it seemed like every month or every three weeks something new was happening. So I guess I never – because he has been quiet the last, what, two months, three months? I don't know. Well, the question is, let's say he did have some sort of mental health thing

going on, which we cannot rule out with the way everything was rolling. He didn't seem like a man who was making good decisions, right? If you see a doctor and they figure out how to level out your chemicals, like it very much is like a, I don't want to say like an overnight thing, but it is like a, oh, this person becomes a sane person and a healthy person. I'll be interested to see how much the NFL looks into that. Like, okay, whenever he was doing all these, you know, not only alleged terrible things,

but actual terrible things on his ig live and stuff with his kids and his wife who's back with his lady and he's back with his kids it feels like he's really trying to get back into that whole thing i wonder how much good dell in the nfl is like we don't know enough but if you're the agent you're 100 right you're calling you're like hey we need to know what it's going to be so whenever we talk to the seahawks or when we talk to another team yeah we get that we'll be out for whatever, eight games, whatever it is, 10 games, however many it is. But whenever that happens, we've got to have some sort of goal

because if not, we've got no shot in this whole thing. It's similar, too, to Josh Gordon kind of because, I mean, he got suspended for what, marijuana again? And now that's off the new or it's not a suspension anymore? Yeah. Correct? So what do they do with him? But we don't know if it was just marijuana because whenever it came out that he was being suspended, it said PED and substance of abuse.

So I don't know if they did that just as a, like, that's what we do. That's how we announce it. Or if it was a PED and I don't know. None of us know anything because all that is what? Client, doctor, or patient doctor privilege. But the NFL can also know. Yeah, the NFL

if someone tests positive, the NFL doesn't ever come out publicly and say what they tested positive for. That's up to the player if they want to try to say what they tested positive for and guess what? Oh, somehow all the players test positive for oh, it's a tainted supplement. My protein powder must have had some juice in there that adderall i tried adderall that was the new one you know the new one was oh i tried adderall because i was

studying the playbook or something and then the nfl by the way never comes out and says well that's full of shit or not because the nfl does to the nfl's credit they do very much not say anything they let everybody else kind of control the narrative on what the test is. You think they want to publicize positive tests more than the attention it's getting? We had a guy on our team bail a test for PED

and he said it was because he was taking Xtends. That can trigger a positive test. That's what he said. And it felt like he not only lost games, but a lot more, too, whenever he had to tell the room that he was trying to make his dick big. Wait, he told the whole room? Well, I think he might have told somebody in the training room.

And if you say something in the training room, you might as well just go ahead and get on a megaphone and be like, Everybody, you're trying to get a 10-inch hog. Sorry about that. Spent it four games. Jon Jones used that defense when he got popped one time. He said he was taking, I think, the gas station version of Cialis or whatever. But who knows if that's true, though?

Yeah, nobody knows. I know. Nobody knows. Nobody knows. Mike Tyson, 53 years old, says by the end of this week, he will have a contract to get back in to boxing this man made an appearance Appearance this weekend on AEW double or nothing took his shirt off looked amazing looked with it there's video surfacing of him with his shirt off at 53 with a

six-pack and biceps and the knuckles flying in Resetting and capturing and bang it up, bang it up, bang it up, bang it up. It feels like Iron Mike is all the way back. I have no idea what he looked like in training videos back in the day because I've not seen that. I've only seen the highlights of him swinging refrigerators at other humans' heads and knocking them out to a rompous arena who was there to see him kill another individual Mike Tyson has obviously been a man who's been there done that with everything highs very high lows very low now at 53 he was offered 20 million

already by a bare-knuckle fighting championship I would assume there's other places offering up a lot of money because if you get Mike Tyson in a pay-per-view setting with the videos that he's putting out currently not a single human on earth is going to say nah i don't want to watch that i'm here for it i assume you're here for it and the person i want to see him fight not evander holyfield no offensive andrew holyfield i i understand that holyfield is a massively successful boxer i want to see him fight tyson fury's dad i want to see him fight Tyson Fury's dad. I want to see Tyson Fury's dad and Mike Tyson go at it,

and I can't wait to see Mike Tyson potentially knock out the Gypsy King's dad because the Gypsy King's dad cutting promos with Tyson with his workout videos going up to that thing, it'll be the hottest fight on planet Earth, and I am here for it. Yeah, I'm here for it yeah I'm here for it too but I I would imagine if they want to make that these fights happen they want to make Mike Tyson fight happen don't you think the Evander Hollyfield is number one on their list of priorities no they already said no I think why um Evander said he wants it yeah but somebody came

out and said that he will not be who Tysonyson's fighting i forget exactly who said it but mike tyson uh it came out and said evander holyfield will not be the person he's fighting i wonder who said it somebody said i read it this morning i hope he does the bare knuckle yeah i read signs with them well then i mean we're potentially gonna see somebody die in there i mean that's you ever watched any of the bare knuckle like the bare knuckle fighting it's it's good man tyson like whoever is going to step in and fight tyson let alone fight him bare knuckle is absolutely crazy we had a guy uh friend of the show chris lytle used to do bare knuckle boxing he went down to mexico to take on somebody i forget where at and he every day would come back with a new black eye it's just like it's incredible and you're only

allowed to your feet you have to stay within reach of the other person basically so they are telling you to hit each other mike tyson looks dangerous again and uh he on that smoke what's he call it what's that show mike tyson's uh up and smoke i think no no it's not is it up in smoke no he has a show it's a very good show on youtube he interviews people and he had a clip come out just a couple months ago where he's always fighting against the inner killer, basically. And it, like, scares him to think that that person's still under there and could come back at any moment. And it was, like, a very, it was a real moment there for Tyson. You could see, like, he's always inside. He still has that, like, he wants to go fight people.

Now he's putting these videos out. Now he's getting back into it. It's like, what going to happen to mike tyson here for the next 10 years is he just going to go around knocking out people hot box are we hot box artists are we back into the mike tyson kills a man potentially world and i'm here for it he had a pretty infamous quote years back that was like uh that's why they keep me on the zoloft, so I don't kill y'all. Mike was on Young Money Radio, and he said, no, it's not going to be Evander. Yeah, so ESPN and Mike Tyson said it's not going to be Evander Holyfield. So now who it'll be, we don't know.

Tyson Fury's dad has come out with his incredible accent and speaking ability, saying he's a king of a champion, so he would fight him. And and he said take on the big the big i don't want to say the word because i guess i'm not allowed to say because i was not a gypsy but you get it that that's something i would like to watch right there if it's not that either of those two guys who else is out there for mike to fight butterbean still swinging his fist i think somebody i think butterbean still swinging him around a little bit little butterbean action i still think it should be tyson fury yeah digs wants actually tyson fury yeah i mean i don't know maybe it's a little too soon for that tyson fury fury is the current champ right yep he's so good too tyson fury is so so good can you imagine with his length like tyson's

gonna work do whatever he can to get inside of those arms. By the way, they were saying that his gloves were potentially a little bit... They're floppy. Harder? A little floppy. Tyson Fury? Yeah, it was some hater, I assume, trying to knock him down a pedestal. But I was bummed.

Just like I'm bummed I wasn't around for the Mike Tyson prime era. You know, when those fights had to be, just the buildup had to be so awesome. And then 15 seconds of dead. And then let's do this another month from now or so. I missed it. I'm very mad at myself that I have not known enough about Tyson Fury because he is so entertaining at boxing.

It's got to be Butterbean. You nailed it. It's got to be Butterbean. Are you it. It's got to be Butterbean. Are you sure Butterbean's still out there? Is he still active? Still fighting? He was on the Dark Side of Wrestling. The Brawl for All episode.

The Brawl for All episode. And he didn't look like, obviously, he was in his best shape, but... He had a cane. Did he? I think he was walking with a cane. No. Maybe it won't be Butterbean.

Get him in the gym. I don't know. I don't remember him with a cane. That's not good. I said this, what with a cane. No. Maybe it won't be Butterbeer. Get him in the gym. I don't know. I don't even remember him with a cane. That's not good. I said this, what, a couple weeks ago. Maybe just have Mike Tyson stand in there and then just have a line of Stooges come in. You know what I mean? Just Sandusky gets in there.

Jerry Sandusky. Boom, boom, bang, dead. Drag his carcass out. Jared Fogle comes in. Boom, boom, bang, dead. Drag his bag of bones out. Jared Fogle comes in, boom, boom, bang, dead, drag his bag of bones out. And it's just Mike Tyson's punch out, but with terrible people and people who potentially pay to get in there.

Yeah, Larry Nassar we can throw in there, the Michigan State doctor. Larry Nassar for sure, Michigan State for sure, should be represented in this. Mitt, will you give me that picture right over there? On the double, Mitt, hurry up. People in the, you're me that uh picture right over there she's on the double man hurry up people in the you're okay you're okay people in the uh comments are saying Fedor would potentially be oh yeah I was thinking of like an MMA guy he could fight in a boxing match ever heard of one of these AJ oh yeah where'd you get down to eBay nah guy owns a butcher shop a

butcher gave us to me he's a good man man. Good man. Old Dougie Dale. Couldn't find a place on the wall for it, which is a real shame. But if Mike Tyson gets in a fight, no, this son of a bitch is going right back up on the wall. If Tyson does fight, don't you think it needs to happen in the next three months? Yeah, he's training, obviously, for the next couple. He's in very good shape right now. Yeah. He needs to do it before like all these sports try to

scramble to get back together like by the end of the summer like i think mike needs to do it right before that i would watch if the nhl had their 24 covet team covet cup and golf had their four majors or whatever and the nfl was happening and the nba was happening and then there was a tyson fight at night i would still watch the Tyson fight, I think. I would absolutely watch the Tyson fight. But going back to the – you mentioned the hockey thing. So they're talking about having, what, a 24-team, like, playoff thing where some teams that maybe wouldn't have been in the playoffs are going to have a chance now.

And isn't there some series that are played to see what seed you're going to be? Yeah, so the top four in the Eastern and Western conferences will play for seeding seating and then there'll be a play-in round for how everybody else why does seating matter though if you're all gonna be playing at the same facility there's no fans there there's no like real home ice didn't they play some season already yeah yeah this would be finishing the season that they already played i know i'm saying but these games where you're gonna be playing for the seat why if your team is playing for the seat why would you be going as hard?

Why would you be finishing checks? Why would you be playing as hard as possible if it's just to get a different seed when the seeds don't matter? If I'm an eight, I'm playing a one, there's no home ice advantage. You're all playing in the same arena. There's no fans anyway. What advantage are you getting? Well, the humans on the other team.

Yeah, I mean, if you want to, for matchup reasons, I guess. But the seedings don't, like, there's no home ice. AJ, the seeding isn't all about home ice. It's about who you have to play against. Like, you don't want to have to run into a buzzsaw until later. You don't have to run into them first. Okay. And it hasn't been completely ruled out.

What do you mean, okay? That is literally what seeding is for, so you don't have to play the good team. But, yeah, you're right. No, or if you want a top seed because you want to, like, say you're in football, you want a home game. There's no home games here. We don't know that yet. What do we know?

Nothing. Well, there's 20 pages. There's going to be, like, a West Coast arena area that they're going to play. There's going to be, like, a Midwest-type area. It could be two. It could be four. It could be everybody at their home stadium, depending on the local state. Nobody knows.

The NHLPA just voted to have more conversations about it, which means they haven't shot this idea down, but there's a lot that still has to be figured out. Don't rule out the local media, local TV, local radio, just like an MLB that want this thing to be done in local arenas. The thought was originally two biodomes, one in Edmonton and then one probably in Florida somewhere, I'd assume. But then as you really dive in, you start to realize

how many people got their hands in the cookie jar, potentially, that are going to try to figure it out. You have, I mean, you know the hockey world pretty well, I'd assume, right? Because it's literally in your family at this point? I mean, I don't know. I don't pretend to understand what's happening. Well, yeah, you just said the only reason why you seed is so you get home ice, not so you don't have to play

against the hardest team in round one. I'm saying in that first round, those seeding series, it doesn't matter nearly as much. Well, I've always said, if you're a winner, you're going to have to beat everybody anyways. Well, what it's going to do, they're bringing in, what, maybe Chicago and Montreal,

and they wouldn't have probably made the playoffs. Is that right? Yeah, and then we've got to face Montreal, who just so happens to have a goalie that could get hot and really screw us out a number five seed there. So, I mean, it's not great. It's not a great setup for the Pittsburgh Penguins, but Hockey Town will survive.

Will survive. Hey! Hockey town will survive. Will survive. Hey. Do you think Indy could support a hockey team? Indianapolis? Yeah. Do they want one? We have one called The Fuel. Pretty good little crowd.

Pretty good little pop whenever you go out there. I think Indiana would like an NHL team if they had one. It would have to be good. If they're not good, I'll tell you what, it's going to be tough to move some tickets. But if they're good, this city would buy in completely. How are you not a bigger hockey guy coming from Pittsburgh? What are you talking about? He's a big hockey guy. I'm a big hockey guy.

You ever see my next door neighbor clap on? Bro, I don't fucking clap on. I got dangles sticking in my face. A hockey guy would know what he was talking about. Top Chad, bro. Are you kidding me? Come on, man. I'm a big hockey guy. I apologize.

I didn't realize the vast knowledge you have of the game. Yeah, dude. You want me to explain offsides for you and everything? Offsides and icing, both of them. Can't figure it out. He'll get there. Columbus Blue Jackets aren't a bad team. I mean, nowhere near as good as the Pittsburgh Penguins,

but Columbus Blue Jackets aren't a bad team over there in Columbus. They'll be in, right? They're going to make the playoffs. Yeah, Columbus is a good hockey town, too. That place loves their Blue Jackets. We went to a game over there. It was awesome. When did you go to a game?

A couple years back. Three, four years ago. Because they were playing the Pens. Playoffs. Three-hour drive. Here I come. Oh, the playoff. I might have been at that game.

Well, we won. In your face Mitt will you go grab my stick You're lefty too In hockey Well I use a flat stick because I might be lefty or righty I'm not 100% sure but my next door neighbor clap bombs from the right side I do know that

Thank you Mitt This guy's a world deck hockey champion What's that mean Champion What's the deck have to do with. Champion. Don't worry about it. Deck? What's the deck have to do with it? Ball.

Well, it's like the white trash hockey. Yep. You know? It's ice hockey, not like roller hockey. No, no, it's ball hockey. No, it's worse than that. It's on feet. It's on your feet.

You just run around in a little. That sounds terrible. It's a great sport. It's a great sport. Wait, do you play like on an indoor soccer field or something? On a hockey rink. With no ice? Yeah, it's on pavement.

Yeah, it's like an indoor hockey or indoor soccer field. Yeah, but it's outside normally. Indoor as well, but normally it's on the outside. If you want to get real white trash, and there's at least three fights a period. It's awesome. In a crowd and on the deck. Anybody could get it. There's a guy named Haddlebags.

He's world ball hockey player number one, I believe, at one time. He was pretty good. He had a hell of a clap bomb. He actually hit a guy in the head with a hockey stick in the middle of a game and was almost sent to jail for it. That's not alleged. I seen it. Wow.

It's great. White trash hockey is awesome. Yeah, I used to play roller hockey on tennis courts before the cops would come kick us off. It was fun. Oh, you used rollerblades? Yeah. When I was, I'd say when I was 9, 10, 11 years old. How were your handles?

Pretty good. I bent my stick, though. What took you so long? Made your shotgun and beers out there? This is one of the key points to in the memo, the proposal to return to play no sharing of sticks. I'll see if someone

so say the D man loses a stick, the offensive man cannot give a stick to the D man. Well, it's only to return for informal skates.

But yeah, you can't just be picking up all the guys' sticks. Good juggle. They're going back. Aren't hockey players going back to the facilities next week?

They will be permitted to. Sticks on ice. Sticks on ice. He's open. Give him the back. Give him the back. By the way, when you're deflecting in front of the net, AJ. Ooh.

Tap. Clap on. Oh, whoa. There it was. Big hockey show. Big hockey show. There it was. Big hockey show. Big hockey show. There it is. Oh, good juggle.

Look at those mitts. See those mitts, Mitt? Oh! Are you kidding me? Are you kidding me? Never seen Crosby do that. Yeah, I have. With a battery?

No. Yeah, I have. Never seen Marshawn do that. When we saw him lick people's faces. Rat. It bites him. Hey, what makes Sidney Crosby so good? He's better than everybody.

He skates faster than everybody. He's got better vision than everybody, and he's a fucking savage. Legs. Yeah, doesn't he have super powerful lower body? Yeah, he skates better than everybody. And his handles are better than everybody too, right? Yeah. I don't know. There's probably some people, like for instance, Ovi's got a better better than everybody. And his handles are better than everybody too, right? Yeah. I don't know.

There's probably some people, like for instance, Ovi's got a better shot than him. This is just what I'm knowing. This is what I've been told from other people who know hockey. Ovi's got a better shot than him. Other people might have better dangles than him. But he skates better than everybody. He's got better vision than everybody.

He's a facilitator. And he can shoot in the upper echelon of people and dangle in the upper echelon. It's the competitiveness. It's like the Michael Jordan thing. They call him the greatest grinder of all time because he just doesn't allow himself to lose. He's a fucking lunch pail guy. Is he viewed as a lunch pail guy like that?

I feel like he's so good, people outside of Pittsburgh don't view him that way. Well, yeah, people think he's a baby in a winery. But if you watch him hide in night out. But why do they think that? Because he's Sidney Crosby. He's the best on earth. Because he scores so many goals.

I guess, do they think the same thing about Gretzky? Well, and also, there is plenty of film of Sidney potentially being a little bit... He's had some moments. Radish when he hits people's gloves away from them and does some illegal things. He's punched a guy in the nuts he's not as bad as malcolm that's what i don't care he'll talk to the refs you know he'll yell about dress he gets treated much differently than everybody else because he's the greatest of all time so i mean it's just it's tough to hang obviously what what's wrong with uh what's his name um malcolm

i heard connor jump in yeah he doesn't know what he's talking as a bruins fan i always thought malcolm was the one that whined more compared to crosby. He doesn't know what he's talking about. As a Bruins fan, I always thought Malcolm was the one that whined more compared to Crosby. Malcolm doesn't even speak English. Who's he whining to? Exactly. It's my point. Well, Mitt, what are the minutes, pal? He had a terrible morning. This dude's been hung over

so bad. He came stumbling in, threw three footballs at the basketball backboard. I mean, it was just... It's been a rough morning, but he's 21. Mitt, what'd you do last night? Last night, I just hung out by myself. That's a lie. Detoxed? No, it was my friend's birthday. I actually didn't

drink at all last night, though. First time since what? Why are they slandering you this way? Mitt did not get better this weekend. I had a long weekend. 21 years old. Memorial Day weekend. He walked in here looking like literally a sack of shit. 21 years old.

You don't get hung over yet, Mitt. That's what I was trying to say. That's a lie. Definitely get hung over. That's because he's already abused his liver so much at this point. His liver's 55. Talk to Foxy's dad. It sounds like he's dead.

AJ, no, you too. Sorry, you too. I hate the show. Sorry, man. You too, AJ. I hate the show. Happy Memorial Day to everybody. Sorry to find you.

Have a great Memorial Day. AJ. From us to you, we'll see you in Minyana. Have a good one. He's dead. I hope he's really not a drug. He's not, AJ.

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Friend of the show Charles Rodman Charles Charles Charles Thank you so much for coming And joining us Ladies and gentlemen, friend of the show, Charles Robinson. Hey, Charles! Come on, Charles! Charles, thank you so much for coming and joining us. Happy Memorial Day to you, sir. And you as well.

Happy Memorial Day to all the veterans out there. We appreciate your service. Amen. Bingo. USA! USA! USA! USA!

Anyways, big shout out to USA. Let's get to America's team. You were the man behind all the information for a potential Jamal Adams to Dallas Cowboys trade, and this allegedly almost took place last season at the trade deadline. Now it's popping back up this offseason. Is there anything to this? Will this ever happen? And why is Jamal Adams so mad about this whole thing?

I mean, there's something to it because Jamal Adams wants to get paid. He wants his extension after year three of his rookie deal. And the Jets are sitting there and going, look, go look at some of the best defensive players from recent classes. You have Khalil Mack, Aaron Donald. These are guys who actually played through year four. Christian McCaffrey is the only guy from that 2017 class to get extended. So the Jets are just sitting there saying, look, if you want that extension, that's fine. But that's a 2020 issue.

That's not a 2021 issue. That's not a 2020 issue. We're not going to get to it now. And, you know, look, I think Jamal, George Adams, his dad was a first round pick, you know pick in the NFL, played for the Giants. I mean, there's some family stuff going on here in terms of the advisement. And, you know, look, Jamal's had a burn in his saddle since the trade deadline last year. I don't think he liked the fact that the Jets picked up the phone when the Cowboys called. And conversely, I think what's interesting in this, and I think this is a little bit of a wrench in this process,

you know, Michael Irvin comes out and he says, oh, it's a first and a third. I don't know, man. For the Cowboys, it might be a little more expensive because I can tell you right now, the way that whole trade deadline stuff went down last year, how much information got out there, and the feeling that it was the Cowboys leaking a lot of the information about the talks with the Jets. I don't think Jets ownership was very happy about how that whole process went down, feeling like they got burned a little bit by the Cowboys in a process that should have been a little more locked down. It might not be a first and a third

from the Cowboys. It might be a little more expensive than that. And I think how many strong safeties, honestly, even a great strong safety, how many strong safeties nowadays in the NFL, our team's going to go, hey, we'll give you a first, a third. And then on top of that, we're going to pay you at least $15 million to make you the highest paid nowadays in the nfl our team's gonna go hey we'll give you a first a third and then on top of that we're gonna pay you at least 15 million dollars to make you the highest paid safety in the game well the game is becoming on defense side of the ball a lot of safeties because how everything's opening up so i mean potentially a much more important position going forward as it was in the past but if what was the things that came out during trade deadline last year that made people a burn in the saddle by By the way, that is an incredible – what does burn in the saddle mean? Burr, like a burr in the saddle.

See, I live in Houston, so whenever somebody's pissed off, you've got to talk about a burr in the saddle. Oh, it's like a snake in the boot. It's like a snake – it's a snake in the boot. Got it. Burr in the – Yeah, it's the guy with the snake in my boot. Okay, a burr in the saddle.

Okay, so the Jets feel as if the information that the Cowboys leaked last trade deadline was offensive and negative. What was the information that was being leased on what they were willing to give the Jets for the trade, or what was the information that kind of pissed off the Jets people? Well, I think it was one of those things where it got out, and there were reporters around the Cowboys where it was sort of like a daily sort of update. Here's where we're at. Here's where we're at.

And there wasn't really much coming from the Jets end of it in terms of, you know, the people around that team. And, look, a lot of NFL teams, I mean, you know this, their names get brought up quite a bit at the trade deadline. You know, teams call on guys. And I think sometimes a team can feel like they get burned just for picking up the phone because the Cowboys call and say, hey, you know, we hear everybody on your roster is available. Is Jamal Adams available? He's a guy we're looking to upgrade his safety. He's a Texas guy. We think he wants to come home. You know, Will McClay, who's, you know, high up in our personnel, is close to Jamal Adams' father, George Adams.

Maybe we know something about where Jamal Adams would like to continue to play his career. You can have those conversations. But then when all of a sudden it all comes out and it seems to be one team's media that really ends up being the people who advance the story, it put the Jets in a situation where all of a sudden Jamal Adams is saying, why would you even pick up the phone? What's going on? Why am I even involved in this? I thought about this because we had learned that Jamal was upset

about the potential being traded. I have no idea what you're supposed to do if you're in that general manager position there. If some team calls you and offers you, I have no idea because it was alleged that Jets ownership and front office had a conversation with Jamal Adams and told him that he's not on the trading block, right? Because they were trying to get rid of, they were trying to unload all the contracts that the previous GM put together. So Joe was trying to do his own thing.

He and Jamal Adams have a conversation and tells Jamal, you are not on the trading block. Don't worry about it. Then it starts coming out that the Cowboys are trying to trade for him. So then Jamal loses trust in the trading block. Don't worry about it. Then it starts coming out that the Cowboys are trying to trade for him. So then Jamal loses trust in the general manager. But if you're that general manager, just like when Jerry Krause had to take calls for Scottie Pippen, it's like, I don't fully know what you're supposed to do there. And I'm normally a person that hates the general manager and loves the player.

I don't know what the GM is supposed to do there. If the Cowboys are calling, it's like, is Jamal Adams on trading block? No. It's like, okay, well, then there was potential. You could that as trade talks about jamal adams if you really wanted to even though it was trade talk and not an answer to i don't know what you're supposed to do there but i like that jamal adams all pissed off at people i like that a lot yeah i mean look i don't i don't think this is necessarily a negative for the jets i mean i i know people are sitting there going well you know this is one of their best players.

Look, the Jets are becoming relevant because of some of the things, as you said, Joe Douglas is willing to do. You know, look, if you're 14-2, 13-3, you don't pick up the phone on guys. But, you know, it's not a good team. And you're talking about, you know, rehashing the entire roster there. There's not many guys you don't pick up the phone on maybe sam darnold that's it oh they just brought in joe flacco so sam darnold needs to have his head on a swivel do you think they brought in joe flacco uh not only because joe was with the ravens in 2014 whenever uh joe the elite joe flacco was

at his highest and they have a little history with him. The GM has history with Joe Flacco. Or do you think they signed Joe over Cam Newton because they know Joe Flacco, definite backup for Sam Darnold. Cam Newton comes in, potential controversy as soon as if Sam gets mono again or if Sam starts incompleting passes, everybody in New York is going to be calling for Cam Newton.

Do you think that is the reason why that move was made? I think they brought in Joe Flacco because he's tall. Mike Lennon's getting gigs. Hey, if you're a tall quarterback, you look like a Sky Cam. You were getting signed in the last week or two. That is 100% the case. Look, you're 100% right. I mean, that's exactly why they brought in Joe Flacco,

because they want functionality in the quarterback room. They want functionality in the media. I think there's a part of that support role where they feel in Joe Flacco because they want functionality in the quarterback room. They want functionality in the media. You know, I think there's a part of that support role where they feel like Joe Flacco having that history with Joe Douglas, going back to the Ravens, feels like he knows his character, can be that guy that can hold the clipboard, support the rookie, knows enough, has started a long time, won a Super Bowl, all these different things. You know, and oh oh by the way if sam darnold god forbid gets mono or some other transmitted disease in this time of transmitted diseases you've got a quarterback who can step in and actually win some football at least they feel

like he's experienced enough to hold the fort for a few games um you know a lot about you know free agents and things of that nature the last time time you were on this show, you said, look for Jadeveon Clowney to go to the Jets, potentially the Titans, but his price has to get down a bit. Now, we don't know if we're at that price being down yet. Maybe you do. Is Jadeveon Clowney, who's still on the market right now, at the point where he's willing to accept a lot less than what he was expecting?

And is there a team out there that you think is going to pull the trigger on him because boy that's a guy that you would like to not only have come off your bus first not only be in the warm-up but he can disrupt games anytime he wants to and chooses to do so i i still think it's the browns i really do i i've i've been on this for a while i still think the cleveland browns are a team that have a ton of cap space. They have Olivier Vernon who, if they cut Olivier Vernon tomorrow, it's a $15 million cap hole. They're going to win the Super Bowl.

Browns are going to win the Super Bowl, dicks. I mean, and remember, there's another thing about Jadeveon Clowney, too, and I think the teams that look at him feel this way about him. You want to put him with a set of guys who can be sort of force multipliers. So you're sitting there at defensive end, you're saying, hey, Miles Garrett on one end, you put Jadavion Clowney on the other. Something's going to happen here. Like one of these guys is going to have to get doubled.

It's going to change sort of the matrix up front for offensive teams. I still think the Browns are a team that are very interested in Jadavion Clowney, but are slow playing this process. Because look, the bottom line is, from what I've been told, Clowney's just not in a hurry. There's nothing going on right now. And I think once facilities start to open again, and you talk about players starting to come back into the fold, he's not worried about this virtual offseason stuff. I live in Houston. Jadavion Clowney's here training like every day.

He looks like Jadavion Clowney. I mean, he's going to be fine. He's going to step in and be ready to play right away. He'll, I think he's waiting until he knows there are no other options out there. This is what's sitting in front of him, a huge pay cut with a team like, say, the Titans. And I honestly feel like it's kind of whittled down to a huge pay cut with the Titans or something with the Browns that is less than the $20 million he wants, but at least closer. Isn't it interesting, though? You're talking about Jadeveon Clowney's patience.

Don't some of these teams, though, they're showing a lot of patience. It's like, hey, if you think Clowney can take you over the hump, go and get him. I don't understand what the entire – we'll just wait it out. Is Clowney telling them like –, so you're saying, like, the Browns have made an offer to him, and Clowney's like, not yet, and the Titans have made an offer to him. He's like, not yet. Or is it that they're all just kind of waiting around?

Because I've always, I don't know, I don't do the fantasy football because I think it takes a lot of time, and there's not enough upside for me. And honestly, I just hate it. But, like, I'll get into it next year. I've decided next year I'm getting into fantasy football. I'm not a general manager of an NFL team, but if I've got a guy sitting there that I'm like, hey, this guy, if he's alongside Miles Garrett

and we have a good defense, who knows if Miles Garrett's going to make it through an entire year without taking somebody's helmet off and killing them. If you have a guy, let's go and get him. Is there any conversation about that happening, you think, behind closed doors? I will say about the Browns. The Browns have expressed interest.

It's not like all of a sudden they've closed the door and said, hey, we're no longer interested. Connolly's camp's known for a while that the Browns have been interested. I don't want to get into the details of what's been talked about. Oh! Oh! Charles! Oh!

Charles! Charles! Tell us, Charles! Charles! Charles! Charles! Charles! Come on!

Tell us, Charles. Listen. In what situation have you expressed interest and not talked in some element of detail okay let's be real here yeah you're 100 i would have got these nunchucks listen i i'm telling you uh in terms of their patience the patience of teams and look you're on clowny's schedule because clowny's sitting here i'll tell you what his thought process is right now here we go Do I do a one-year deal? Okay, because I feel like I just did a one-year deal last year,

essentially finishing out the move to Seattle last year. I did a one-year deal, the prove-it deal. It didn't work out, okay? My sack numbers weren't great. The pressures weren't great. I wasn't always 100% healthy, and teams are all sitting there staring at me going, hey, man, when are you going to have the pop season? When are you going to have the 12, the 14, the 15 sack season? You haven't done that.

We're not going to pay you like you're a 15 sack guy. You want $20 million. That's a 12 to 15 sack guy every single year. So he has that problem. He's still in a situation where he may have to sign a one year prove it deal. But I think the Browns are interested in him longer term than that. And if he's going to sign a reduced deal, I'm telling you right now, that's a one-year deal. He's not going to take some contract where someone's going to pay him, hey, $14 million a year. There's not going to be a five-year, $14 million APY deal that he's going to sign. That's going to be a one-year deal. He's going to go try to prove it again. But I don't think he wants to go through that process again. If he wants to

sign the bigger deal, getting into the upper teens, that's going to be a team like Cleveland, which has the money and has the interest still. B-T-Dub-L-O-L-A-P-I-A-B-Y. Okay, let's pivot. Let's move to another team in the Lone Star State

in which you habit. Tat, habit. You inhabit. Inhabit? Inhabit. Inhabit. I-N, habit. Right there at the end.

Dak Prescott and the Cowboys. Last week it came out via Chris Sims that there was an offer on the table for five years averaging $35 million per year. Dak wants $45 million for that fifth year. It came out from Rappaport that both sides said that is a complete lie. Do we have any legit update on what's going on between Dak and the Dallas Cowboys? And is that deal ever going to get finished, or is this going to be an ugly till the end?

There's nothing going on. This has been the most ridiculous negotiation ever, because I remember when the two sides broke it off last September once the 2019 season started and there was like these monthly updates like every month there's all Dak and here's where the extension is and I remember I talked to a guy like you know it was like in January and he literally said to me listen man we have not spoken to Dak's camp since September the hell are you guys talking about he's like you keep updating things we're not

even speaking to each other and what had happened was the cowboys had a set number on the table dax side had a set number on a table dax went out and played three pretty good games and then guess what dax camp looked at the cowboys and they said his number just went up so that number we gave you before that's not legitimate we are we are in a different time yeah that's pawn stars that's pawn stars well they you know stephen jones did the re gold took the phone smashed it on the wall and that was gonna be the last time they were gonna talk to dax people it was like all right i guess we're just gonna have to look at franchising you that's just what's gonna happen um you know things at the combine changed a little bit i think the cowboys the fight, I've summed this up a million times.

It's about four years versus five years. The Cowboys are sitting there and they're saying, we have to get at least five years on this deal. We want five years of control. Daffside's saying, hey, go look at the Wentz deal. Go look at the Goff deal. All these quarterbacks are signing four-year deals. And the Cowboys are saying, those are tack-ons.

That's not four years of control. Those are tack-ons to deals that are already in place that's five years of control for those teams that's what we want that's what they're arguing about the numbers I'm telling you are going to come in in the mid-30s if he signs a five-year deal it's going to end up landing between 35 and 40 million dollars if he signs a four-year deal, it's going to end up being around $35 million per season. That's where they're at. And if they cannot just squash it, and I think July 15th, we can keep talking about this, but nothing's going to get done until, you know, start at July 8th and run it through July 15th. That's when the rubber is going to hit the road on this thing.

And if it doesn't get done, then I'm telling you right now, Dak's going to play out his franchise tags and he's going to do the Kirk Cirk cousins and really put him up against the wall all right well there's some inside information from senior nfl reporter at yahoo sports charles robinson we appreciate you do you have that backdrop of the city just at your house yeah it's uh it's one of our bedrooms and i get hell all the time about how I've turned an entire bedroom into a little city for a cheesy Houston. The iconic Houston background. We like Houston a lot.

We've been to Houston a couple times. I'm a big fan of the city of Houston. Alright, well come on down, man. We'll go shoot guns. That's what we do in Texas. Hey, shoot some guns. Cheer on J.J. Watt. Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. Charles Roberts. Take care. Alright, thank you You're on JJ Watt. That's what we've got going on. Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. Charles Robinson. Thank you, buddy. Take care, guys.

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