The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 206 - "The Sanchize" Mark Sanchez, "Big Hockey Guy" Pierre McGuire, "Smart Italian Football Guy" Michael Lombardi, & Legend, AJ Hawk Stop By For A GREAT Conversation. Let's Go.

Episode Date: May 28, 2020

On today’s show, Pat is joined by NBC Sports NHL analyst, a guy who knows just about everything about every hockey player on earth, Pierre McGuire. Pat and Pierre chat about the path to hockey coming back, what he has heard about the playoff format, what road blocks still stand in the way, his thoughts on what the two potential hub cities could be, and who the greatest hockey player of all-time is (4:05-15:15). Next is another installment of McAfee & Hawk Sports Talk where Pat and AJ discuss the NHL coming back, the MLB season looking less likely with each passing day, the allure of certain sports having no fans in the stands, and everything else that is going on in the sports world (15:17-1:35:35). Later, former General Manager of the Cleveland Browns and front office associate of the New England Patriots, 3x Super Bowl Champion, Michael Lombardi. Pat and Michael chat about the proposed 4th and 15 rule getting rid of the onside kick and why Lombardi is not a fan of it, he gives some more insight on what GM’s do when they learn that a player may be available, Michael retells the story of trading Trent Richardson to the Colts and how the deal was completed, and gives his take on everything else that is happening around the NFL (1:38:20-1:57:30). Lastly, former USC Quarterback, 5th overall pick of the New York Jets in the 2009 NFL Draft, and friend of the show, Mark Sanchez joins the program. Pat and Mark discuss the NCAA name and likeness rule changing and how he thinks that will play out in a city like Los Angeles with players at USC, what it takes for a rookie Quarterback to be successful in the NFL, where Mark thinks Cam Newton will end up and why he doesn’t have a job already, the development of Josh Allen and why he thinks it is a huge year for him, and what Mark has been doing to survive quarantine (1:59:42-2:17:10). Don’t forget to send in the hashtag #ThisIsWhereImAtPat with a picture of where you’re listening to the show for the chance to win some free merch. We appreciate you listening. Come and laugh with us, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Well, hello. It is Thursday, May 28th. This month is flying. I feel like just yesterday I was turning 33. Well, big news. The NHL laid out a roadmap to getting back in the game. We talked to Pierre Maguire about it. Yes, that Pierre Maguire, you probably, you might not like him if you're a hockey fan. And if you don't know hockey get ready the guy was a great conversation and i'm a big fan of him the sanchez mark sanchez joins us aj hawk joins us yet again absolute legend of a man and his jawline by the way is something that not a lot of humans have he kind of has the look his face looks like it's a shovel. That's how distinct his jawline is. One of the most handsome dudes walking this earth, also hilarious.

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Yep, that's accurate. Ladies and gentlemen, on NBC, former coach and scout. Now a man who knows everything about everybody that puts on skates. Ladies and gentlemen, Pierre Maguire. Yeah, Pierre! Yeah, Pierre! Yeah, boy, Pierre! Hey, Pat, really nice to visit with you.

Nice to talk to a Pittsburgh guy that went to West Virginia and kicked a few balls. It's good. See, that's the thing about you, though, is you know everything about everybody, and I think that is something that is very, very important

in your profession especially, but I do believe you're put in a position where it's like a no-win situation because you build up a lot of players that a lot of people say, oh, he hates my team, he doesn't like my team. It feels like you have an interesting relationship with the NHL fan base. Am I accurate in saying that? I think that's probably fair.

My biggest thing is I want to support the players that play in the game. The venues are unbelievably difficult to play in. Obviously, as you know, you've been at the highest level. But I think the biggest thing is celebrate the journey of every player that gets there. They don't get there by themselves. More times than not, they got a lot of people to push them and help them and try to celebrate where they came from, how they got to where they are, and how they stayed where they are. Well, I think you do a great job. Now, granted, out here in Indianapolis, we only get like one game a year every once in a while. It's a Blackhawks game. I wish the NHL would kind of expand a little bit. Did we lose Pierre?

Not at all. Okay. Well, you just dropped off screen. So sorry about that. Great Wi-Fi on you, Pierre. You're picture perfect at the moment. Speaking of picture perfect, it feels like the NHL has put together a roadmap that I think is the best out of all the leagues it put together.

This 24-team tournament with two hub cities, it feels like this is what the NBA should be doing. together a roadmap that I think is the best out of all the leagues to put together this 24 team tournament with two hub cities. It feels like this is what the NBA should be doing. This feels like it's a really good idea to the NHL. What are you hearing about the likelihood of this happening? And how long should we expect this to take until we roll this out? Great question, Pat. Number one, it is a roadmap. It is an idea. I wouldn't say that it's a perfect plan. Because we don't have a start plan because we don't have a start date, we don't have a finish date, and we don't have the pods yet. But the truth of the matter is I think it does work out really well

when you look at it. The fact of the matter is if you look at the top four teams on each side, with Boston, Tampa, Washington, and Philly, they've merited those opportunities. And on the other side, the defending Stanley Cup champions, St. Louis, Colorado is an up-and-coming team, Dallas, those teams, Vegas, those top teams really belong where they are. But I think the biggest thing, Pat, when you look at it,

this is more of a plan that has to have some finish to it, if you know what I mean. We need to have a starting date. We need to have a finishing date. We need to have the cities in play. And there are a lot of collective bargaining agreements, Pat, that still have to be answered to in terms of compensation for players, in terms of how many people can actually attend from their teams. I mean, there's a lot that goes into this.

The MLB and the MLBPA are nowhere near an agreement, and it revolves strictly around the cash. And then you listen to the NBA players talk about it. And the NBA players are are not about it's not about the money the revenue that they're going to generate because they see this as an opportunity I assume to not only steal the show because everybody will be watching this but also as a brand builder and it's good for the NBA it's good for the league when LeBron and Russell Westbrook and Chris Paul and the stars of the league come out and say hey we want to do this let's make this happen it's a much different world than when blake snell's on his twitch saying we ain't gonna do this and bryce harmer says i agree with him what have the leaders of the nhl the players let's say sydney crosby greatest player to ever play hockey in the history of hockey in the history of everything like that ovechkin you know you go

through it what are the start marshall i guess what are the stars playing because we haven't heard much from hockey players which by the way is normal they don't talk much but What are the stars playing? Because we haven't heard much from hockey players, which by the way is normal. They don't talk much. But what are the players thinking behind closed doors? Do you know? I do, actually. Some are thinking that they really want this to work and they want to come back. Others aren't so sure. I would tell you this. The guys that are probably in the

most tenuous position are the guys that are potential unrestricted free agents. And there are about 25 of those that are big, big names that you've got to wonder. And I haven't heard one way or the other from them, but you have to wonder if their representatives are saying, whoa, let's slow down a little bit on this. Because you rush players back into conditioning shape.

You rush players back into high-profile games with a lot of intensity. Maybe those potential unrestricted free agents get hurt, and maybe they're not as valuable as they once were. The one thing I can say in defensive commissioner betman and deputy commissioner daily their first priority number one priority is the well-being of the players and i mean that sincerely i saw that on his plan yesterday the first bullet point was player safety and health is uh paramount i believe was his actual words which i think is the right answer but he's also the first commissioner to come out and say hey this, this is what we're trying to do. The NBA, Adam Silver has been very hands off. He's like, we'll make this decision later. We'll make this decision

later. Not a lot of commissioners have come out and said, hey, this is what we're trying to do. Was this a leverage play by Bettman for the NHL and the NHLPA to kind of negotiate a deal, do you think? or is this something that he really feels as if it is going to be able to counter fruition well some people speculate that Pat there's no question so I think you're on to something there but I think quite frankly Commissioner Bettman really sees this as an opportunity for the league to take another step remember the NHL's big television partner is NBC NBC doesn't have the summer Olympics so what's the perfect way of having

a programming situation that works well for NBC that still has another year left on their contract to put hockey into that Olympic time slot and you'd have three or four games a day from all these different venues or the two venues, I should say, and that maybe fills a void programming-wise a little bit, at least forbc so the one thing i'd say is the nhl and nbc and the nhl have been amazing partners over the last 15 years phenomenal partners pat but again i can't stress this enough gary betman is an amazing problem solver he's not a little bit good pat he's really really good when it comes to problem solving okay so you just answered my next question because i said whenever i'm not even a college basketball fan, but when March Madness happens and I'm engulfed by college basketball, I'll watch because I can gamble on it

because I kind of see stories start to build and things like that. You guys in the NHL and NHL and NBC and everybody are seeing this as like a morning game, afternoon game, night game until we get to how many days rest in between games? What is the thought or projection you think? Not that this is obviously you're not abiding by law here, if you say this law abiding statements. But what is the projections of how that tournament will look? From what I was told, there'd be three games a day in each venue.

And so there are only two venues. And so that would make a lot of sense. And I think they'd probably like to have it all wrapped up in a two-month period. So let's say we start in July. You may be finished in September. And then you could open up the league again in November to start the 2021 season. And it's critical that we have a full 2021 season with fans back in the building. Our sport, unlike football, use football example.

You're an expert on that. You guys, even though gates are important, you have a lot of television money. We don't have nearly the television money. We need gate receipts. And if we don't have people in the building, that's a problem for hockey. Well, that's going to be solved by, I assume, government officials. I don't know if Gary Bettman is going to be able to figure that one out, even though he is a problem solver and probably will be talking to the government

and part of that commissioner committee and things of that nature for the two hub cities that are being chosen we learned earlier from rumors on the internet nhl rumors daily nrd the guy's pretty good but the two hub cities let's say pittsburgh gets it because it's hockey time and let's say las vegas gets it because las vegas has already said that they would host the nba a casino or two has already said we'll shut down everything you can do this whole thing feels like las vegas is a home run, but let's say Pittsburgh is the other one. Will they have the Eastern Conference play in Vegas and the Western Conference play in Pittsburgh because they don't want any type of advantage for who had to travel more and less?

That's something that they are talking about right now because, remember, Toronto is one of those sub-cities too, potentially. So is Columbus. So is Dallas. So it would be very interesting. I think one thing they have to look at is time zones really important so vegas matches off in the pacific time zone obviously in the mountain time zone for for game watching uh columbus pittsburgh toronto

they match up really well in the eastern time zone so that's a positive so i think everything's still fluid but that's why i said when you started out the show i thought really poignantly by saying hey you know what this is more of a roadmap and an idea than it is an actual finish plan because we don't even know the hub cities yet pat we really don't i think it's a good idea though if the nhl is the first real sport i don't say real sport i apologize to all the other sports that are currently happening but if they're a team sport the nhl can get eyes on their product from a lot of places that don't say real sport. I apologize to all the other sports that are currently happening. But if they're a team sport, the NHL can get eyes on their product from a lot of places that don't normally see it. And I would assume Bettman, NBC, and all the people with big brains are like,

hey, let's do this. Last question before I let you go, and I can't thank you enough. Why is Sidney Crosby the greatest hockey player of all time? Well, he's not the greatest player of all time. No. Wait a second. Mario Lanier could be that guy. Bobby Orr could be. Wait a second. Mario Lanier could be that guy. Bobby Orr could be that guy.

Wayne Gretzky could be that guy. But he's in the discussion. He's in the discussion, Pat. Okay, so Ovi's the best goal scorer on earth right now. Maybe ever, buddy. For sure, he is the best goal scorer. Maybe ever. Yes, absolutely.

But Sidney's the best player on earth right now? I can't do that. See, when I was fortunate enough to be part of the Penguins, we won two Stanley Cups. We had a guy that wore 66. He was really good. He was really good. He was, and so was Jarmer Yager and Tommy Barrasso and Francis.

One of your guys would have been Ulf Samuelsson, I know, just because of the way he played. Oh, I loved Ulf. Loved Ulf, pal. Hey, Pierre, big fan of your work. Loved the sport. Can't thank you enough. Hey, Pierre, big fan of your work. Love the sport. Can't thank you enough. Nick, do you have a question for Pierre Maguire?

Yeah, Pierre. In terms of best players on the ice, we just talked about that, but why is Mario Lemieux possibly the best human of all time? There we go. Just a gamer. Gives back to society. Cares so much about people. He's a cancer survivor.

He's just an amazing man. It's a privilege to call him a friend. I just love hanging with the guy. He's a pretty good golfer, too, but more than anything else, he just cares about humankind. He really does. He's an awesome human being. All the players and coaches, you guys have a genuine... You have a real respect with everybody, huh? I do, yeah.

I really respect everybody that does it. I respect everybody that coaches, too. You don't always get along with everybody, but at the end of the day, you've got to measure up and talk to people. You really do. Do you have any beef with anybody? Is there any noted beefs between Pierre Maguire and any players or anything like that?

Not that I know of. That's good. How about that puck that almost got you right in the face? I don't know how that does it. I'll tell you this one, Pat. My vision was saved by Dan Girardi, who just retired this year. He's the guy that yelled, look out, look out, duck. And he wasn't talking to just me.

He was talking to the whole Columbus bench as well. He was a great display of sportsmanship because he's a great defenseman that saw that puck coming. I was watching Columbus stretch out the zone against Tampa, so I wasn't even watching the play. But as soon as he said that, I just stepped back a little bit. And because of that, I got saved. Well, Pierre, we appreciate you putting your face in a line of

duty out there for the sport of hockey we can't wait to see it get back can't wait to see you work ladies and gentlemen pierre mcguire thank you thank you very much hello we're live there's a thing like that circles on my screen tells me when we're live or not. It says going live, going live, circling, circling, going live, going live. And it says you're live. And it just so happened to be at the exact same time as the man sitting on my left. AJ Hawk wanted to say something. What's going on? Welcome to Sports Talk Tuesday, May 26. How you feeling, Aaron? I'm feeling great. Good to be here. I appreciate you letting me know when you're going live.

Well, I was trying to I say, hey, we're going live live and then you to be honest i never know how long we're going sometimes this thing will sit here for like a minute it'll be like buffering buffering buffering but you're live it just comes out of nowhere you gotta be ready at all times that's what the computer's doing to me whenever i'm trying to go live every single day hey do you think YouTube is, are they worried that Rogan's going to Spotify? Are they worried that other people are going to be poached and get out of there? I think right now it's a big time arms race, okay, in the content game.

It is a time where you need to load up on things. I think not only Spotify, but you think about Apple's going to want to get into this game too. They already got Toon Chie in there. They're trying to get into the content game right now. Then you look at um uh google obviously youtube and then you just go through the whole entire you start looking through the gamut there's a lot of people looking to acquire content and audio in the world right now it's a great time to be a human that's in the

content game uh because the world is looking for it it's a great time to be in this game. And I think every single day that I get a chance to talk to AJ Hawk in front of his books every Monday, Tuesday, Thursday, Friday. How are you feeling today, brother? I'm feeling pretty good. How much do you think the Rogan deal was really for? How much do you think he actually gets? Everybody's saying that there was a lot more than just the $100 million. The $100 million amount. Probably $100 million cash and then a bunch of money in stock options don't you think i'm not sure if it was stock options or if there was more money in cash with stock options on top i think there was a lot of money i mean i think i'm sure there's

stipulations to like hey if you drive or like subscribership up this much you get you get a big chunk like he has bonuses built in because it's a huge deal for him to go exclusive to spotify i do believe there's incentives and he's not exclusive exclusive he's actually just licensing the show he can still post clips on youtube which even when it goes fully exclusive like in september of 2021 or whatever i do believe that i don't know if it's there i think it's i don't think it's going to be on youtube anymore i think he's allowed to put clips up though i think from my understanding of reading whatever he's allowed to put some clips up i don't know i'm not 100 sure but that deal is a great deal for every other content maker that's on the internet just like whenever barstool sold the pen at a 450 million dollar valuation that's a good

deal for every other human that talks about sports on the internet there's there's a couple trailblazers of the internet that make deals happen that has a trickle-down effect that helps out everybody else. Barstool, Rogan, things of that nature, those are people that do that type of stuff. So it's obviously something, as soon as it happens, you start snooping around a little bit. You're like, excuse me, how much money? $100 million? Damn. Then you start digging deeper, and they're like, much more than $100 million.

Their reporting $100 million was not accurate. It's much more than $100 million. I'm $100 million was not accurate. It's much more than $100 million. I'm like, well, good for Joe Rogan. I read an entire article on him. Basically, I forget what old school journalism platform it was, but they said that Joe Rogan and those types are the new mainstream media. And the quote that I took out of the whole thing is, why would you, when you can't

get canceled you have a lot more freedom to do stuff and joe rogan talked about how in the middle of this pandemic with 38 million people going on unemployment it feels he feels bad almost that this deal happened but he's unusually or weirdly wealthy at this point he said something of that nature about how like this is all very mind-blowing to him as well and the amount is massive but this is a guy who's worked for this what 18 years 20 years almost he's been building for this thing i mean it's a it's a great deal for spotify too because if you're a rogan listener you're gonna find where you can listen to joe rogan at and i think uh good deal for rogan good deal for spotify and in the article i read they already made their money back with the stock bump so the amount of stock went up they already made their money back with the stock bump. So the amount of stock went up.

They already made their money back for what they paid him initially, what was reported. So maybe they haven't made the actual amount of money. But yeah, they already made a bunch of money back in the stock and everything like that. And that's what Joe Rogan does. He moves the needle either for you or if you smoke weed on a show against you. Shout out Elon Musk. Elon went on again. Did you see any of his second appearance on Rogan?

I did not. It was pretty good. I mean see any of his second appearance on Rogan? I did not. It was pretty good. I mean, Elon is such a weird, smart guy. Joe could ask him a question and Elon sometimes will pause for like 15 seconds to like think about what he's going to say to answer. Everything I say here is going to be calculated completely because the last time I was on this fucking show, my stock crashed.

Changing my kid's name to Roman numerals. That's what happened on the last time, right? That was the last big change. All the boys are here, by the way. Diggs, Nick, Ty, Zito, Foxy, and Boston Connor, also known as Coach Campbell on the internet. He's not currently Coach Campbell, though, right? This is not Coach Campbell?

No, it's not. I got the glasses on. I could be yelling, but I'm not going to. What is that? Is that your coach speak? No, that's not Coach Campbell. This is Coach Whisper. I don't want to yell on the show right now.

So I'm whispering. So are you Coach Campbell right now? Oh, yeah. This is Coach Campbell? Oh, yeah. In my workout gear, yeah. Coach Campbell's getting after it right now? Oh, yeah, he was.

Oh, yeah. Have you seen this Coach Campbell video yet, video yet aj no i saw it actually without volume i scrolled through it we have to run it this is thanks for scrolling past it aj i appreciate that this might be the best thing that connor's ever pieced together and i feel like this series is going to become something that we are going to get a chance and an opportunity to watch grow it is next level obviously you know mitt mitt was all hung over yesterday a bag of alcohol he's basically a box of wine yesterday i mean a guy so hung over after a memorial day weekend at the age of 21 uh coach campbell because he's a wide receiver at a university did you know that depaul university

he's a wide receiver yeah he can't have his coaching staff know that he's been hung over all weekend. Well, it's funny you say that because this is actually what happened yesterday with Coach Campbell in the series that's about to take over the internet, I think. Welcome to Coach Campbell's hungover hell. This son of a bitch was out all weekend with the floozies and his buddies drinking beers. So you know what we're gonna do? Practice! Chug your fucking feet!

You're gonna throw the ball, throw it like a quarterback dammit! Jesus! Chug it away Nick! Look at the reason you fumbled 15 times last season! Mix! Chug your Your! Feet! Eyes up! Eyes up! Goal! And you're lucky son! If you drop the ball and it hits your hand, you will run until you die!

Watch it! Nice catch, man! Just kidding, it was terrible! Never had anything worth half a shit on a football field! It's alright. Oh! Oh, you son of a bitch. Are you kidding me? Give me a thousand push-ups right now. One, two.

Why'd you cut off the... There we go. This is the best part. Think about Connor editing this together and how good he felt putting this thing at the end. Look at the Earth. It looks so good. Oh, man.

He was hitting him with a broomstick. The problem is the Earth is round in that, though. The Earth can't be round in your graphic. Are you a flat earther? I thought Connor might have been a flat earther. You think I'm a flat earther? Connor is not a flat earther. Come on. I'm not a flat earther. The think I'm a flat earther? Connor is not a flat earther. Come on.

I'm not a flat earther. The earth is round, just like all the other planets. Okay. That is interesting. What do the flat earthers think about the other planets? Do they ever get asked about that? I've never thought about that. That's a good question.

Like, okay, earth is flat, so the rest of them are. No, they probably think the other planets don't exist, like it's all a hologram or something. Speaking of holograms somebody tweeted me this and told me i could take their idea which is very nice of them since there's no crowds going to potentially be available for some things you're seeing it in bundesliga right now and other things he said and i quote why don't we have the nerds create holograms of fans in the stands for these things and boom we have an actual fan base now all of a sudden i will say

this i will say this boondisliga on fox is piping in crowd noise and i like it a lot more than i thought it would i thought it would sound terrible because it's like well there's nobody in the crowd i can see that but they shoot it in a way that they're not getting everybody that you can see empty seats they put some tarps over some things because if the sound is there and you don't see anybody then it can be weird but they pumped in crowd noise in this one game i was watching this weekend i loved it and i think that was exactly what joe buck was referring to whenever he said the fox is going to try to do some things for the broadcast maybe pump in some noise and it felt like the Bundesliga uh production had somebody who was like controlling the cheers and the boos and like hey we need this to be accurately timed here when a good thing

happens needs to go crazy when something bad happens let's boo ref makes a bad call fuck you like that whole thing was happening I liked it a lot more than I thought it would I don't want that to be the new normal for sports going forward but I think it's helped me kind of carry through uh watching places with zero fans in the stands do you agree with that whole thing i do agree that if it's done right like you said if the audio guy is always like if he's riding the controls up and down throughout the game like oh it's a big play here we go we're getting louder it's almost like can you like do you sleep in complete silence pat or do you have some kind of fan or sound going i got

a fan going next to me can't sleep without it by the way need not because like that yeah don't you think it's that like you when you if you try to sleep say you turn it like you're watching tv you turn the tv up okay let's tuck in let's just hit the hay let's go to bed your room is so dead quiet i feel like it's impossible to sleep that's why kids like all my kids have sound machines and it puts me to sleep like it's so nice so maybe it's something like that to where our brains just it registers we're okay there should be noise here if done right it can help out it's not as good as actually having the fans in the stands but it can do a little bit have we gotten away from the potential big screen tv surrounding the football field yet have we gotten away has that idea officially been ruled out with people zooming in as if it's roger goodell

watching the game live there? I guess it would be difficult because the Zoom cam would have to be right in front of it. Well, they would have to have somebody controlling the Zoom cam to kind of catch the action. But has that been completely ruled out yet? Steven Ross, Miami Dolphins owner guy, he came out on CNBC and said, we're definitely going to have a season. It's just whether or not fans will be in the stands which is kind of expected at this point but i feel like

we're on the road back and i might be completely wrong new jersey opened up for professional sports new york opened up for professional sports california it's just how will we be able to roll back into 70 000 people being right next to each other 100 000 people being right next to each other 15 000 people being right next to each other 100,000 people being right next to each other 15,000 people being right next to each other i don't know how that all plays out but i'm pumped to see the people that get creative with it and i think the fox with the bundesliga coverage got creative with it with the sound it made it much better than i thought it could i need to go back and watch some of that to see what it actually sounds like and looks like but also like what

does training camp look like i know new jersey opened up and said like okay the teams can have training camp here at their normal facilities normally training camp is the only time of the year where it's open to the public we know that's most likely not going to be the case but are they going to try to limit other people that come around like okay you know we've talked about it refs come around and they'll spend like three days with the team and they'll ref practices and they get yelled at all day by the guys on the field and then they come into your team meeting and they explain the new rules like are things like that gonna happen well mark cuban said it's gonna be like uh welcome to the hotel california such a lovely fan. Such a lovely fan. Such a lovely fan. Plenty of room at the Hotel California.

What a nice surprise. What a nice surprise. When you're out to buy. You know who sings that, Pat? Eagles. You can check in, but you can never leave. Eat it. They're saying that, by the way, I'm a jukebox, and people have realized that by watching these shows, but you can check in, but you can never leave. They're saying that, by the way, I'm a jukebox, and people have realized that by watching these shows.

But you can check in, but you can never leave. So I would assume training camp would be just like that, where once you get in, you get tested on the way in, or whatever test they're doing, whether it's a temperature test or something of that nature. But then if you want to get out, the only way you're getting out is if you get cut. Other than that, you're stuck in there for the entire time.

I would assume that's going to be the way it is for a lot of things. They're already talking about that with how UFC was doing it. They're talking about how I would assume that the MLB was thinking about doing it, the NBA, the NHL. There's a lot of that conversation happening where it's like you get tested in, you stay, and then you just hope that if you're around a bunch of people that don't have it, nobody will have it, and then you move forward. I would assume that's the first step. Yeah, it makes me think of everyone. Okay, so a team has an away game.

Are all the flight attendants, are all they getting tested? The pilots, like anyone around the team? Is everyone going to be somewhat quarantined together? I don't want my pilot having coronavirus. No, by the way. Oh, thanks. What's he doing? Breaker, breaker, one, nine.

I'm puking. having uh what did uh they say some people have said that when they had it they had like um trips like acid trips hallucinations yeah cuomo said that yeah damn imagine your pilot up there just like i mean is he all of a sudden gonna hit him while he's in the air? Like he's not going to know beforehand? You don't know? Hey, you don't know? We had a musician in our office, what, two weeks ago? Yeah.

And all of a sudden he's got it. He said that somebody came in his house and that's how it happened. It came out of nowhere. Hey, where was I? I was supposed to be there. We were having a show and he said a guy was going to be playing music. Was I there? Yeah, he ended up playing for our first show.

For our first show. Because that's where he striked us on. So we had to get a version of the song which struggle bus is he's he's on the struggle bus now clayton anderson because with the coronavirus but struggle bus is an absolute banger but he's got the coronavirus now out of nowhere this is the first person i know that has gotten the coronavirus by the way i wait so he was there two weeks ago and then when did you find out he had it he last week last week he found out. What did he do, call to let you know or text you? No, no, no.

A Facebook video is how we found out. It wasn't even a call or a text. It was a Facebook video. I was watching. I was like, wait a fucking minute, pal. Tim McAfee's here. He's an old. What are we doing here?

And then so I reached out to him. I gave him a tease and peas, hope everything's all right. Obvious question here. here it's like you know you kind of did come in raw dog here you got any uh and he said he told me the whole story i feel terrible for him he said he feels bad bad bad bad it's not good not good but struggle bus is a good song but he he currently has it he's the first person i know that has had it but i don't know how easy it is to transmit remember six it was supposed to be six foot distancing, and then there's studies saying they don't. I know nothing about this virus. All I do is I like to read the room.

The room feels as if we're ready to open up back up, and that could be completely wrong with what the coasts are feeling. But here in America, boy, it is wide open out here. Time to go. It is wide open. Memorial Day weekend was a... We're fucking done with this, pal pal let's go ahead and hit the boats we're over is it like out in ohio i'd assume so yeah it is i haven't been out and about too much

but we're already getting emails about like my seven-year-old son's baseball team gonna start up practice soon they say they want to have games starting in early june already in a week or two. I thought about, I thought about like younger kids. Like, let's say you're in school, a teenager, and you live out in the country a little bit. Like this has probably been a really hard time, right? You're kind of away from all your friends. You probably haven't been allowed to travel. Now, granted, if you live out in a farm,

I assume you have a lot of brothers and sisters because it's a bunch of that stuff. But I assume there's a lot of kids. What's that? A bunch of that stuff. Well, they work. You're literally creating workers that's what you're yeah yeah no i get it i just the way you word it was sex the parents having sex a lot of sex a lot of sex see i thought you were inferring uh the brothers what about amish people no no has it affected them much amish people have lived in social distancing in quarantine this entire time

they've had it right all along. They're like Howie Mandel. They're fist bumping, too. They're not talking to many of us. But I thought about, like, imagine you're in seventh or eighth grade or whatever. Your leagues shut down. Not allowed to play spring sports. In school, sometimes the only place you get to eat or hang out with anything.

Like, this is, I think it's going to change a lot of things. Now, granted, I don't have a child, so I don't know how you're going to have to handle that for them going forward. I'm not 100% sure how your kids have handled the quarantine or if they have good neighborhood and stuff like that. But there's a lot of insane backlash and ripple effect, I think, that's going to come from this entire thing. Well, it's just become super political now, too.

Like, mask, no mask. It's ridiculous. I don't know. I think you're right. None of us know. None of us really's ridiculous we're i don't know i i think you're right none of us know none of us really have an answer we we don't know what's happening i don't know we're all just waiting to hear what we're supposed to do guy driving in a honda accord next to me all by himself had a mask on this morning he ain't fucking around i've seen a lot of that lately i really have but then i go into the grocery store and maybe half the people have masks on but then i see i mean maybe% of people driving are wearing the mask.

The driver, the guy next to me this morning while I was driving in, by the way, wide open roads again. Oh, yeah. Nice. Beautiful. It was beautiful. You guys cruising? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

A lot of people having that mitt hangover today. I don't think they're out and about. It was wide open. But the person in the car all by themselves with the mask on. Very intriguing to me. It's like, okay, do you think something's coming through the air conditioner? Is it just floating down the highway? That guy's a fool.

Talk about flat earther. That guy believes in the flat earth right there. You don't know. He's probably just told, like, hey, you never know how this coronavirus is going to come. Maybe he's got asthma or something. Maybe he does have asthma. Maybe it's a short trip and it's a tie mask. Yeah, maybe. Maybe he's a fool. Maybe he's got asthma or something. Yeah, maybe he does have asthma. Maybe it's a short trip and it's a tie mask. Yeah, maybe.

Tie and untie. Maybe he's a fool. Maybe he's an idiot. I have asthma. If you're wearing a mask driving, that is detrimental to your health. The mask is interesting, man, because I have such a big nose. I have such a large nose. It is a wild scene to go in there.

I used to go bandana on my motorcycle, though. I used to go bandana on my face, You know I used to go bandana on my face Sunglasses Is that just to keep bugs out of your mouth? Why would you do that? No mostly because it makes me look like a bandito You know what I mean? How many Harleys do you have?

Currently? Or just like over my entire life frame? I guess right now How many do you own? Two There's two of them Two of them right now The one I saw you on

Was kind of like a weekend. You'd put your lady on the back, and you'd go across the country, and it has saddlebags and area to store luggage on. Oh, you're talking about my street glide that's got a little bit of an air ride. And then do you have a legit Harley then, like a one-seater that you can just cruise? Legit Harley. My street glide would blow by all of my other bikes. I'm not talking about speed.

I'm talking about do you have one that's more cut down, doesn't have the big old compartments to carry a bunch of stuff? Yeah, I had a chopper at one point, and then I had a fat boy, I believe, at one point. I've gone through a lot of bikes, but this one's my favorite one. This one is my absolute favorite. It looks like the Batmobile, this fucking bike. You're saying it's a weekender.

I mean, this guy. How many wrecks have you got? This guy. He's never seen it in person. Yeah, he has. He has seen it in person. I pulled up to him whenever he was walking around. He was calling an Adidas high school game for seven hours straight with no commercials.

And I saw him during the day, this guy. He was probably hanging out with men. He was probably hammered. Yeah, he probably probably was well driving that three-wheeler he has yeah oh the geyser glider you got the old geyser glider over there pal trike oh what was that called no it was the you wanted to rent it to us during uh december to february slingshot i see you the slingshot that thing was fast and low to the ground it was fun that thing sucked the people that created that they're like hey we got one out there for promotional uh aj's got it till january we're thinking you maybe get this thing

with no roof and three wheels january to february in the middle of indianapolis sounds like a good fucking deal take a hike hope you're hope you never sell another one guess what pat i had it from december to january so how much do you think i was able to use it well you said you loved it right there you said it was awesome. I did, for about four minutes at a time, and then my face froze off and I had to go back to the garage. Those things were pretty awesome, though. Because that's just like, that's a donut heaven, right?

That thing? You just put that thing sideways and just feather the gas a little bit. I think it's technically considered a motorcycle, but yeah, it was cool. You put a plow on that thing, probably I'd be able to plow your driveway pretty easily what was that other thing uh pan am maybe might have been a pan am two wheels in the front one wheel in the back it kind of changed the way uh it was considered a motorcycle it's called like a t-rex or something like some dinosaur that's a slingshot i think the uh i think it's pan am can am pan am can am has like the side by sides and like polaris's, stuff like that.

Are you talking about you go through trails in the woods? Can-Am has the two in the front. Can you pull that up? There's two wheels in the front, one in the back. It's like a motorcycle more, but it's automatically balanced or whatever. It's for old people to ride motorcycles. That's what it is. But whenever it first came out, they were trying to market it as the new cool thing or whatever.

And I went and took a look at it. And I was like, I don't know if I can get on this one. This seems like something I should not do. I almost bought my dad one. I tried to buy my dad one. My mom's out. Yeah, that thing right there. That thing's sweet. See, I thought that people were going to get on board.

That's like when cops cruise around on the beach. Yeah, I thought people were going to get on board with that because the donuts would be majestic on it. How many wrecks have because the donuts would be majestic how many wrecks have you gotten in what motorcycle wrecks none bro i got great it's not you it's the people around you you gotta be it's all everyone driving by you texting i agree people say that and i'll get in an accident at some point and this will come back to haunt me but you have to drive for the other people when you're on a motorcycle like you literally have to drive for the other people like

i'm watching the driver while i'm riding my bike, if that makes sense. So like you'll see their arm move before their car will move or you'll see their head glance at least a little bit. I'm doing that while I'm riding or I'm getting the hell out of the spot that I'm in. And that might be called, I don't know if that's super defensive or offensive driving, but I am a mover and a shaker on there. I don't have time to fuck around for somebody else who's a terrible driver to take me out. I got shit to do, so I'm going to get out of the way. And in Indiana, I'm on a lot of wide open roads. But yeah, you never have a conversation with anybody

who's been on a motorcycle that's like, yep, never got an accident in my entire life. Most people have gotten into something, I would assume. And I'm just hoping that I'm one of the anomalies that never happens. I hope the same as well. I know Chopper has a Harley here, my father-in-law. He got in a wreck First week he had it

He was coming up over a hill and like it was a thing where you go up and like you're coming up a hill and right Over the top of the little hill somebody stopped completely in the road It's like 55 and so I was like what you do is like I had to dump that thing and ride it into the woods Like he had to go down sideways and everything we didn't even know about it Until he was walking around our house a couple days later in these little short shorts and he just had nasty road rash all over like his ass down his quad it was amazing i'm a casual rider mostly though like i'll just casually ride casually cruise with the lady then if it's wide open let's go for it a little bit the first time i got a bike i got a bike my rookie year

because my mom said, you will never be allowed to have a motorcycle when you're under my roof. So in college, I got a scooter, just kind of warm it up. Let's see how I do here. That thing was incredible. Had an electric start and everything like that. Then when I became a rookie and I got a paycheck and I was under my own roof, I was driving down the street and this guy had this chopper on the side of it.

He was almost basically telling me to buy it. So I drove by it like probably 15 times. I had no idea how to ride a motorcycle at the time. I finally stopped. It was after one of those poker games. I think I had a shit ton of money on me at the point. And he was like, how can I help you or whatever? I was like, I'd like to buy the bike out there.

He told me a price. I offered him an extra $500 on top of it to ride it back to my house because I didn't know how to ride it, right? So I gave the guy the asking price plus 500 bucks. He takes it back to my apartment I was living in at the time. I parked my car at the time, and I'm just looking at it basically for like three, four hours. Literally like, all right, I'm not going to ride it until I learn how to ride a motorcycle. That would be very stupid of me to get on this motorcycle without knowing and it was a titan which had like I think 1600 cc and it was a big boy so I tell a couple of my friends that ride bikes like like well why the fuck did you buy the ferrari of motorcycles for your first one I was like I didn't know that I knew it looked cool I didn't know it

was so big so I looked at it for like three four hours whatever and then finally I couldn't take it anymore i got on top of that thing stalled out like four or five times and then i got going got into the town there was a red light did a couple laps around a parking lot until it turned green again and then i kind of just figured it out from there got my permit then my license moved on i feel pretty good about my riding ability it's been over a decade at this point but boy those first couple years there was some sketchy times when i was on that fucking titan i mean it was that thing was way too powerful for me it had no back tiny little seat and i used to just you know get a little bit aggressive with the old little bit of that thing did you ride it into the facility for the

colts never not a single time would i have ever done that ever but jeff saturday and them did a whole motorcycle ride for charity. So it was like, I felt like whenever I saw that they were doing that, I was like, oh, I can have a motorcycle then. Then I learned that if I was to get hurt, they would not have covered that insurance. I would have been on that for myself there. Yeah, that's what you can't do.

People always think in a contract that says like, oh, no skydiving, no motorcycle riding. It doesn't specifically say that stuff, at least on contracts I've seen. But it does say if you get hurt anything outside of football we can take your money we are not paying for it pal it's all that's why you you got to limp in and act like you did at the facility this yeah absolutely i would get through at least one or two plays of the first period when we're punting and then oh my god did i just i did i fractured my hip and then all of a sudden like they're like wait why is your

whole back like your whole backside is just raw you got full volume road rash everywhere yeah they came through and blocked it they got me and you know that turf was hot that day it was pretty burn me up yeah just gonna probably need an entire thing here probably needed six seven weeks too it was not a good decision to do that obviously a bad decision at the time but it's got me to this point where i'm very comfortable on a bike. And I enjoy the hell out of it. It's probably my favorite hobby. Because you can't pull your phone out.

Literally cannot pull your phone out. It's just music. That's probably the only time in your life where you don't pull your phone out, isn't it? Bingo. Yep, that is it. You got the lady on the back of the steel pony. We're going to cruise around. It's really nice.

It's really good. I understand, man man i see that like where i live you can get out to some nice little roads that don't have a whole lot of traffic on them pretty close to me when the weather is warm and i hear chopper pulling up in our driveway and it's like man it would be nice every once in a while to cruise around on a motorcycle my son of a bitch is loud too that thing is too loud like when I got this this one. I got two years ago It is too loud like I don't like being that biker You know that's coming through and like like very very loud But then I got this one and it's got some special pipes on it I forget what it is anytime. I'm going under an overpass that son of a bitch clutch is coming in as well

Wow through that entire thing and you see just cars And then we're off what the hell is that jesus is that an airplane take it off they're a train in the middle of the road that son of a bitch jesus that's what happens hey how was mike lombardi he was great this morning he talked about how the fourth and 15 alternate option to an onside kick there at the end of the game you can only do two of them he hates the thought of it because you shouldn't link special teams and offense together if they're kicking onside kick at the end of the game there's probably a reason they've been down this entire time why would you give a team a chance for whether a ref wants to

call a pass interference which is an automatic first down maybe a roughing the passer maybe a a grab or something of that nature that's an automatic first down it's like you're giving a lot of different people a lot of responsibility when they shouldn't deserve it he's very against the idea and once you started opening up and chatting about the refs potentially calling a pass interference or anything of that nature i mean once you start thinking about that you're like damn and now you can't review the pass interference too it's like all you need is one ref to get a little flag happy or whistle happy and it's like bang a team that does not deserve to be in this thing is all of a sudden back in the game and it's like that's a lot of pressure

on the refs all of a sudden and i assume they're going to do this because they want a little bit more of a success rate they want teams that know that they still have a chance at the end of a game. They want fans to know that they're team. They want fans to know that they still have a chance. That's the main thing, to keep them tuned in. And gamblers, too. But, boy, I see this becoming quite a conspiracy haven. If a call is made for the Cowboys or for the Patriots or something of that nature,

people are going to lose their mind. They're like, oh, on his fucking earpiece, he was told to give him the ball so they can get back in the thing. I mean, they're just waiting for that moment to happen i mean just adding another thing to the ref's plate when they already have too much to handle already and think about if you're fourth and 15 and you're gonna that's your like your onside kick of course what are you gonna tell the quarterback number one thing don't take a sack idiot whatever happens throw the ball put it up in the air hopefully we get a pass interference

spot foul first down and we're moving and we got a chance to win this thing so it will be i guess it's a fun thing to add some entertainment to the end of the game i i don't mind it i i don't know once he started talking about the refs potentially get involved i'm like you know that's good for thought that's something i would have never thought i would have thought you know fourth and 15 if a team gets it good on them if a defense can't stop them, that's on them. But then you start thinking about the human factor, and you're like, wait a minute. How tired are those defensive players going to be too? Because the drive just happened, right?

They just got scored on. That's why this whole thing's happening. And Michael Lombardi talked about how the defense was doing their job. They were running out the clock. They were keeping everybody in. Maybe they had a seven-minute drive, but they're going to be dead, right? And all they were trying to do is, yeah, they gave up dead right and all they were trying to do is yeah they gave up points but all they were trying to do was kill the clock that was the objective of that drive for the defense was to let this clock keep

ticking even though they gave up points they're still in the field for a long it's just like now you got to i don't know it's going to change a lot i think it's going to change a lot gambling wise too it's going to change a lot which i think lombardi was also passionately talking about because he's a pretty big voice in the gambling world where does the fourth and 15 where do you attempt it from what yard line you're 25 okay still have a ways to go well pick six if you get 50 if you get 16 you still got a ways to hold on though pick six though i mean you're talking about a lot of things that can happen gambling wise here oh gambling wise yeah it's going to change a lot oh a lot of now granted you could return an onside kick to the house those things still remain with the onside kick but it's not i don't know it's it's going to

cause quite a clusterfuck if it happens yeah and i hope our kickers upset like our kickers mad that they're not going to be able to attempt as many onsides i would be i'm not 100 sure how many kickers take a lot of pride in their onside kicks, though, right? Because you're not getting paid for onside kicks. It's not like, hey, you know what? You're a really good onside kicker. You're going to make this team.

Like, that is... You're right. That's never been brought up, has it? Like, when you're evaluating, oh, should this team sign this kicker? They're never like, hey, he's 0 for 30 on onsided kick attempts. Eh, who cares? Maybe we'll try the punter to do it. But it is...

Once you get into it, it's something you could potentially take a lot of pride in. But that's not what you're making the team on. That's not what you're take a lot of pride in but that's not what you're making the team on that's not what you're staying on the team for and that's not what you're making your money off of so whenever you're putting work in onside kicks you're technically taking away from potential work that could be directly benefiting your bank account and your team so it's just one of those things you have to do on the side which i did because i was you know kind of upset that i wasn't great at them and then i went to work on them i'm like you know what pretty fucking good here all of a sudden. And now they're going to be forgotten about forever because they're getting taken out of the game.

Son of a bitch. It's all for the safety of the game, right? Hey, player safety, player self. For the Shield. Represent the Shield. It's not a privilege. Nope, it is a privilege. Not a right to play in the NFL.

What's the news? The hosts of the ESPYs have been announced. Who are they? Megan Rapinoe, Sue Bird, and Seattle Seahawks quarterback and Yankees shortstop slash Hall of Famer Russell Wilson. Okay, here we go. Yes! Thank you, God!

You know, that's who I always want. I want, you know, Megan Rapinoe, incredible soccer player, great activist. Wait, is it going to be a Zoom? Sue Bird. You love Sue Bird. I'm not 100% sure I know who Sue Bird is. Former point guard for the Seattle WNBA franchise. Okay, okay.

Wait, what is the setup, though? Is it all virtual? No idea. No idea. It sounds like it's going to be electrifying wait did ty campaign enough to get russell on there how did this happen well the thing russell wilson just gave up 300 000 meals on sunday russell wilson is a two-sport athlete that are being represented at the espies potentially one of the greatest athletes of all time deon sanders bo, Rob Gronkowski, multi-sport athletes, Russell Wilson's one of them,

and he's incredible on the microphone. I'm thankful that he, Sue Bird, and Megan Rapinoe are on the mic for this ESPYs. This is gonna be one that we'll never, ever, ever forget. Yeah, no thanks. I think, you know, I mean, I can see why they have Russell Wilson, but who wants to watch a guy just go up there

and kiss everyone's ass and squeeze butts for three hours and talk about how great everyone is? It seems like this show is going to suck. Yeah. I believe. Isn't Sue Bird and Rapinoe, aren't they together too? They are. Is that why?

They are. They will be in the same house. No, we need Norm MacDonald back. You ever watch Norm MacDonald's monologue from the SBC? He killed everybody. Huh. Is that a Norm MacDonald impression? I don't really have a little bit.

Ty, Ty. Bring it out, Ty. You've seen this guy, Russell Wilson. This guy's a kiss-ass. Nobody likes him. Annoying as shit. Jeez. I think everybody likes him, Ty.

I do. I like Russell Wilson. I like him. Donate 300,000 meals. Good on him for that, too. Would have been 400,000, too. Representing the Yankees and the Seahawks in such a good fashion. Why do you always put the Yankees in there for us?

Just to piss me off and goad me. That's factual. I couldn't tell. Go Yankees. And Russell. That's what I'm doing in Thai every time I talk about it. No one worth a shit Playing baseball

Has ever been number 73 And that was Russell Wilson Spring training jersey They're talking about Bringing him back for the MLB On this short off season Because they know He'll be ready

And not everybody else Will be ready Russell Wilson You don't have to get ready If you stay ready And when it comes to baseball They drop Russell Wilson In spring training

He looks like a fucking Perennial all-star Yankees are dropping like flies too They need Russ In the clubhouse right now. Exactly. Especially the governor of Cuomo saying, hey, Russell, come on back, pal. Come on back. Wait, what's going on with the Yankees, Connor?

Put the Pitch Strike song. Judge is hurt. Sanchez is hurt. I think another guy, Severino, got hurt again. I mean, it's really a train wreck for the Yankees. Wait, did they get surgery once the whole COVID thing started or something? I think so. They all might be out for the season.

But Russell Wilson is sitting over there in Washington with 300,000 meals on deck for people saying, hey, you want to put the bat in my hands, pal? The pinstripes are in good hands. That's what that means. He's ready. He's ready. Credit to Connor for turning his light on today.

Thank God. You know what, AJ? It's Coach Campbell. Thanks. He's coachable. Most he's coachable most coachable coach around he told me that yesterday he said i'm the most coachable coach you'll ever see what does that mean i don't know but you know what i just realized as you stood up like this bat is it's getting out of control like the amount of time the amount of minutes that you hold on to

this bat during the show is starting to anger me. Why? Why? It's a big baseball show. What's wrong, AJ? I don't know if it's clips I've seen or something, like where you're just sitting there and we're having a conversation, and I don't realize it in the moment,

but you're just sitting there just kind of wiggling the bat and having a normal convo. And I'm like, wait, what? Why? Me and Michael Jordan. Me and Michael Jordan. We just have conversations with our bat waiting for our next time to get at bat in the double a for the

birmingham barons pal i think i'm i think you are like get that back elbow down how do you not know you're 33 years old i've only played once dude you play golf righty so i would imagine right hand should feel more comfortable Yeah, but it doesn't For some reason Unless I hold it Like, is that That's how I hold it

Nah, don't interlock Nah, nah, nah Golf, he's fucking comparing it to golf You're a lefty Definitely interlock There it is Elbow's too high Jordy's gonna kill you

Why is the elbow supposed to be low? I was told that the elbow's supposed to be high Keep it tight It's gotta drop anyways When you swing. Torque. Yeah. You're wasting time when it's up.

Yep. You keep it that high, you're going to be popping out to the infield quite a bit. I just hope it can get off the fucking ground. I just hit three grounders last time with my weak hand. I'm learning. With my weak hand, pal. By the way, I might be able to see the ball better from this side because holding, I'm on this side for a righty.

Oh. So it might be actually. That's why you're feeling more comfortable then. Yeah, what eye? Are you right eye dominant? So I think I'm left eye dominant actually, which would mean I'm a righty baseball bat then, right? Because that's the near eye there.

You still have dominant eyes when you get LASIK? Oh. Yeah, I think so. How about you just close them one at a time and see which one you see better out of? All right, here we go. What are you doing? I'm a lefty. I'm a left eye.

Yep. Have you ever done that before? I know my right eye has been better than my left my whole life. Whichever one of the triangle moves. So whenever you put that thing in there, right, whatever you see in there with both eyes, then close your eyes. Oh, they're both the same. Yeah, whichever. Then you're.

Which one stays the same? What are you talking about? You're like a fighter pilot, Benzie. Yeah, do your Tom Cruise and fucking Top Gun. How about I just do this? I can do this. Okay, right eye. I see that.

Left eye. Okay, my right eye sees better. Yeah, but you don't know. You don't know, AJ. You don't get it. It's not my fault. You don't get it. It's not my fault you don't get it. It's not your fault either. I apologize.

You're right. How old are you, 35? 36. Oh! Happy birthday! Wow! Happy birthday! Good going!

Happy birthday to you! Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday, dear Hannah. Happy birthday to you. Click, click, click, click. Sorry we missed 35 of them, but we're happy we could hit the 36 one, honestly. Yeah, just a few months after I turned 36. I appreciate it, guys.

All right, let's talk about Ram safety. Taylor Rapp being a fucking superhuman. He burned 10,000 calories in one day. He biked 125 miles. He swam 1.25 miles, ran three miles, and hiked four miles from 4.30 a.m. to 9 p.m. This is a factual statement. This thing actually happened. It seems like a bunch of bullshit whenever I first heard it.

Then he's got it all tracked, obviously. This is an insane workout the Murph is you run one mile you do like a hundred push-ups 200 200 push-ups 300 sit-ups 100 pull-ups and then you run another mile this guy went above and beyond have you ever been in the shape that Taylor Rapp is currently in 125 mile bike ride 1.25 mile swim and then a three mile run hiked four miles that is absurd i don't think i could accomplish one of these one of these feats he took on all four of them this is next level stuff and this guy's in much better shape than i'll ever be in my entire life i could eat the 10 calories 10 000 calories that a boy z that a boy that a boy how about you i mean the 1.25

miles swimming that right there is very difficult like I assume he's been training for this a little bit. Yeah, I think he would have to. Is he trying to be an Iron Man? Is this football training? I don't know. Hey, is he a good football player? Does anybody know? He's a good player, man.

He's a good player, yeah? I remember him in college. He was very good, and he had a good rookie year, too. He's their starting nickel corner on defense. Did that guy next to him do that entire workout i would expect your body to look a little different if you did all that stuff but i'm happy that uh probably had to drag him a little bit to be honest he's not heart mired up so i don't think so true taylor what a stud of a human i didn't know we had humans that could do this type of stuff i this is next level this lance armstrong

stuff that we're learning about on Sunday night here, this documentary, whenever they were talking about what he would do, insanity, absolute insanity. Now we got a guy in the NFL being able to pull off a lot of stuff. Good for the sport, good for the league, good for Taylor. I would never be able to accomplish that, and I am bummed about it, to be honest with you. Well, you don't know the Diaz brothers that fight in our MMA fighters? Oh, yeah.

They both do Ironmans all the time. They swim it back and forth to Alcatraz. They do all of this. What? What about the Sharks? What about the Sharks? The Diaz brothers swim back and forth to Alcatraz. The water that they thought was, they deemed unswimmable.

The Diaz brothers do that? Diaz, is it? Diaz. Yeah, it's part of the race. Nate, the older brother. Or Nick, the older brother, and then Nate, the younger one. You want 31 flavors that is oh it checks out fantastic i did not know of course it checks out i know what do you mean

it's like a known thing yeah it is not a known thing that is something if i was the diaz brothers like the ufc should have whenever he was fighting connor the only thing i knew about him is okay this guy seems to be about that life. He seems to be a tough dude. He beat him, by the way, and then he was throwing water bottles. I wish somebody would have said, oh, yeah, this guy does Iron Man in his sleep, and he swims back and forth to Alcatraz just for fun. It's like, damn, a whole new level of respect. Not that I didn't before.

I mean, they're badass individuals, but that is next-level stuff. I can't swim across my pool. Well, it made me think of that because you said oh i imagine this one guy you were body shaming him saying he body wouldn't look like that if he was able to do all this the diaz brothers like they're not the most shredded guys on the planet but they're built for like they can they have the mental makeup to do those races and they also their body somehow physically lends itself to that so that's just mental warrior stuff right like i know heinz ward did a half iron man jeez like 70 70 miles uh 1.2 mile swim 56 mile bike ride and a 13 mile run

oh my gosh i am such a fat ass there's no way i could even think about doing it it would take me probably five ten years to get in shape to do that i'd rather watch on tv i i mean i i would not i would not want to watch that that sounds incredibly boring doing all that stuff he did yesterday isn't it like deathly unhealthy yeah marathon doing all that in one day well we knew a guy who tried to do a marathon and he trained for nine ten months for this thing and he got to mile 21 he died they brought him back to life still has yet to finish that marathon really now he's the cfo of this company it's wild he died but he just passed out at mile marker 21 yeah it was like a really scary situation because we're getting updates out here because he had been training for this thing for real for like 10 months hard training he's getting back into it by the way you can see he's getting he is oh yeah he the way. You can see he's getting into it. Oh, yeah. He's getting back into it.

He's been a guy who's been in incredible shape here my entire life knowing him, but he wanted to do this Pittsburgh Marathon. He trained, trained, trained his ass off. Then Marathon Day came, and I'm getting updates from people, and then I send him a text. I'm like, hey, how are we doing? And I got cut off completely, and then you go to track him on the Internet, and he just kind of fell off the race.

It's like, what the fuck happened to this guy? He was in a hospital. Something happened to him. I forget what happened. The rhabdo. The rhabdo. What is that? Rhabdo.

He got rhabdo in the middle of a marathon? Middle of the marathon, like mile 23. Still hasn't got the medal for finishing. They took him to the hospital. Yeah, it was a real situation. Very, very scary. We make fun of him a lot for it. But that guy trained for 10 months for it and couldn't do that.

That is crazy to me. Now he's trying to get back into the game. If you can accomplish 125 miles on a bike, over a mile swimming, three-mile run, hiking four miles, your body's just got to be built different. That just has to be a different body than I have. Is that an accurate statement? Yeah. Different body, different brain, I think.

Oh, you're saying I'm soft. That's accurate. I'm saying I am too. I don't have the mental makeup to do those super long endurance races. Hey, did you see Phil tweeted you asking you for a motivational speech? Oh, is this CFO Phil? Yeah, that's CFO Phil right there, yeah. What is this time? Is this a half marathon?

14 miles. He needs to get to 26 or whatever. He did 17 last night, I think. He's almost there. He's getting there. He's almost there. He's got this big old mustache, too. I think he's a little bummed because the Pittsburgh Marathon,

due to the quarantine, is being moved. And I think he was gearing up to do it this year without telling us, by the way. I think he was just going to do it, get the medal, tell us all each shit, get the shirt that's finished and all that stuff. But then the quarantine happened, so now he has to. does he have to stay in shape for another year there's no way you'll be able to do this dude runs until he gets blisters on his feet just casually like on a wednesday he's just running and i facetime with him afterwards he's got blisters on his feet his

legs and i'm like what are what what are you why why are you some people that's what they do man they just like that that's their time like you on your motorcycle without your phone, that's them running. That runner's eye thing I've always thought was a bunch of bullshit. That's not real. Yeah. It's not real. You know, I think the problem is you, us, all of us here, running was always punishment.

So I did something. Still is. Still is. I do something wrong, go run. And it wasn't in a tone like, hey, let's go for a run. It was like, go fucking run, okay? You want to show up and do that type of stuff? And it was, hey, go run, and you're going to run until we tell you you're done.

Like, you don't know. There's no end in sight. That's another mental warfare that you have. Okay, I'm running full gassers down, back, down, back across the field, and Coach just keeps blowing his whistle. It looks like he's not stopping anytime soon. We can be here all night oh turn the lights on we got a long one run it's just a nightmare soccer was terrible too because soccer you're expected to run

a long time and i always knew tuesday thursday nights whenever i would go to my cup soccer practices it's like okay save some energy for the end of this thing. So I'm giving like half effort through all practice. And then all of a sudden that makes me have to run more because I'm not going full. And then I ended up dying. I never was able to balance it in six, seven years of cup soccer of how much effort to give at the beginning of practice. Cause I know I'm going to die at the end of practice.

I'm heavier than everybody here. Can we look out for the big fella? No, no, no run, run, run. And I think that's why of practice. I'm heavier than everybody here. Can we look out for the big fella? No, no, no. Run, run, run. And I think that's why it's hard for me to get over that, you know, I want to go for a run. Because it's like I remember puking. I remember getting chewed out. I remember being like this is the worst thing of all time. I would like to quit doing everything and just become my 400-pound life in my house.

Like that is a tough thing to get over as an adult. But my friend Phil, he said he used to feel the way we felt. And then he started running and he was like i love it now i don't know if he still does or not but i hope to one day be able to achieve that hey that's something i give mike mccarthy a lot of credit for so we didn't run after practice in green bay he always said like our conditioning is built into practice it's built into the schedule our team periods we're gonna be running hard we're gonna be chasing the ball like everything is fast paced like you don't need to run at the end so because if you know you're going to run at the end it's true like just human

nature you're going to have that in the back of your mind you it's going to always be there and you're not going to be able to go 100 during practice so jim caldwell never did any running after practice his thing was we're going to be the freshest fastest team on the field that had to be the most like the greatest thing to hear a head coach say oh he said it every every single team meeting too he's like if any coach says like we want to be fresh the whole team's like yeah yeah we do for this guy yeah hey but we never want you to be fired we want to be as fresh as forever with you we want to be the most prepared we want to be the freshest and fastest team or whatever and everybody's like you got it he was like with that though like practice whenever we're practicing you got to go and then when we're done i'll take care of you or whatever it's like okay and we had a very veteran

team at the time so everybody kind of understood the whole deal you know and then chuck showed up when chuck got there we had a younger team or whatever and i i think it was a ota mandatory ota they had us run sprints after practice i hadn't done that since college i hadn't done that since college so whenever i had my shoes untied or whatever, I was ready to break it down or whatever. Here we go. And they're like, everybody on the line. I'm like, what are they even talking about right now? Does that mean the same thing that I think it means?

On the line. And then I see AQ. AQ Shipley is like dying. So I'm tying my shoes back up. And AQ's like, oh, you piece of shit. I'm like, well, I thought practice was over too, AQ. What do you want from me? And then we just start running and they don't tell you the time.

And that's kind of normal in the NFL, by the way. There are some teams that actually do that on a very regular basis. I had no idea that was the NFL. Chuck only did it a few times. He didn't do it on a regular basis. But as soon as they did, I was like, oh, my God, I did not know this happens. And then you start hearing stories from other people. They're like, oh, yeah, we used to have to do 15 of them after Wednesday practice if we lost or something I'm like what I what and you're losing I couldn't

fathom being punished by running and losing in the same time period that would be a nightmare that's one of the first things I asked when I when I got to Cincinnati and I saw some players I was like hey do you guys uh do you run after practice like at the end of practice and also what is your conditioning test like those are the two things i wanted to know what was their conditioning test it was great it was 40s i don't know how many 40s we ran but i can run i can run like i could do it jody drills all day i could run sprints all day but if it gets up if it gets up to 100 yards or more that's just the death of me i can't pace myself i need to just be doing quick faster those 150s or whatever that got introduced into my life it was a shuttle six times or whatever yeah cut 300s no 25 and back six times it was

150 yard shuttle those were that was the conditioning test with chalk and everybody you're cutting at 25 that's what kills you your legs are shut you can't burst anymore i i used to you know depending on how fat i was coming into camp, which group I tried to politic the run with. You know what I mean? Like if I came in in bad shape and I knew this was going to not be a good look, I'm like, Vinny, I think we're running with the offensive lineman today, right? Aren't we? That's what we all agreed on.

Is that what we did last year? Yeah, that was what we did last year. Vinny was like, no, we didn't. We ran with the middle or whatever. I was like, no, no, we're running with the big boys. Have to, by the way, or I'm not going to be on this team. You got it. So we just start the first one. We just run with the

offensive lineman because they get sent first and we just go. And then while the bickering is going on, they have to send somebody else. So by the time it's over, it's like, hey, I thought you ran with the middle group. I was like, oh, we didn't know we ran with the that's on us. So sorry. And then like one year, pretty good shape or whatever. Middle group goes, it's like, all right, here we go. I'm going to look like I'm a real athlete. Set the tone for the entire thing being Vinatieri. It was pretty cool. How many of those 25s did you have to do? I think it was eight or ten, six.

Couldn't tell you. Over 1,000 yards. Try to remove those from my mind immediately after they happen. Guys, I mean, you get guys show up and they pull hamstrings, but everybody on the team knows like hey you're gonna have to do this so get your ass in shape or at least be hydrated for it there was a guy that had to run it every single morning for like the first 10 days because it was a high draft pick and they couldn't cut them they couldn't just get rid of them and he couldn't pass the physical

or pass the test and they were like if you don't pass the test you can't practice and then we all saw one son of a bitch not pass it was like well are you gonna stick by it or not what are we gonna do here and they made him run it 10 times i was so i felt so bad for the guy it was awful especially offensive lineman i think the smarter strength coaches will shorten the run like say you're doing half gassers down and back across the field a little over 100 yards like for an offensive lineman or defensive lineman they're never running that far anyway i watched a d lineman in college we run our conditioning test which was 20 half gass anyway. I watched a D lineman in college. We were running our conditioning test, which was 20 half gassers, just brutal.

And a 30-second rest in between. And if your leg, if your foot wasn't fully across the line, like whatever. They were absolute sticklers for it. And this dude, his big guys, their backs would lock up a lot when you're running conditioning tests. His back locked up. He had no shirt on and just had white skibbies on.

He's running, his back docked up. Boom, just dumped his and just had white skivvies on. He's running. His back locked up. Boom. Just dumped his pants right there in the middle of the gym. And we're all there like, hey, we're like on 13 of 20. We can barely breathe. We're dying. Like, oh, man, that sucks. And then he didn't really sink in until later on.

Like, oh, well, not only is he got to clean himself up right now, he's got to come back and run this test tomorrow morning. He's got to clean himself up right now. He's got to come back and run this test tomorrow morning. Man, I wish I was in that locker room. That's a place. That's a locker room where I would have done well right there. What's all out there? When he would have came in that locker room afterwards,

boy, I would have been ready to greet him. Come on, buddy. You've had a rough day. Now, we're going to have to do a lap around the locker room. There's a lot of people that got some shit. No offense to Zadie right now. We got to hit this thing head on here. This is going to be a lingering thing for the rest of your life.

Or is he smart, though? Was it a smart way to get out of the test and not look like he was quitting? That's the way I'd be PR spinning that thing. Crisis Management 101. did it on purpose. Get off me. Again, jokes on you guys. I knew I wasn't going to finish. I knew I was going to have to come back tomorrow anyway,

so I stopped at 13. I didn't have to run all 20. Oh, my God. I wish I just saw a guy just shit his pants. I would have died. We had a guy that at West Virginia, we wore yellow pants in practice, you know? And we had a guy who on a couple of different occasions, you knowed and a little bit too much came out the old shark yeah and he refused

to wear underwear so that guy was always something you know especially in the piles you had people really losing their minds and stuff like that but i've never seen a full shit did you see jj watt tweeted mc hammer last night mc hammer did a google search allegedly it is actually more healthy for you when incredibly tired to bend over and have your hands on your knees a study came out and said it is more healthy for you more beneficial it is a better for recovery to bend over put your hands on your knees in spite or despite nope in opposite of what every single strength coach in the history of strength coaches has ever said to you, there ain't no air down there. Get your hands off your knees.

Stand up and breathe. Let your lungs expand. It's like, well, why is my body telling me to bend over then? I feel like my body understands itself a little bit better than you do. Every strength coach was like, no, no, no, no, no. Can't do that. You're not gonna be able to breathe whenever you're bent over turns out studies say we were right all along strength coaches were wrong kind of a shame that we don't

get to reap the benefits of this but the next generation of sports guys will definitely pull this out while in the middle of conditioning this yeah but can you imagine though every especially old school strength coaches just debunking this left and right. They know whenever they get off this quarantine, their guys come back in the facility. They're going to have 15 studies to show this was garbage. MC Hammer doesn't know what he's talking about. Whoever did this study.

It is. We talked about this a couple weeks ago on the show, didn't we? Oh, yeah. They want you to put your hands in the air. All this stuff. It's true. I don't know what it is. It's a mental thing, but you do feel like you get more air if you can just at least bend over a tiny bit why is my body's first reaction is to just do this like why is my first why is it want to do this what you tell me why my body since the beginning of time has been looking out for my body wants to do this yeah listen to your body let us know if things get too hot. Let us know listen to

your body, except when you're dead fucking tired. Your body says bend over. Don't listen to your body. Listen to us and waste your energy. A steady like this resting your hand on your head stumbling around and then 10 Oh my god. Oh my god. Ah, fuck. You get to the other end is I know. Those hands. Oh my god. Ha! Oh my god. Ah, fuck! Then he gets to the other end. He's like, no, no, no. Hands on the head.

Those hands up. Hands up. Breathe. Stretching out those lungs there. Awesome. You're tied. Walk around. Ain't no air down there. What are you, a fish?

Expand the lungs, son. Hey, don't you guys know? I know Diggs is a big CrossFit guy. If you watch any of these CrossFit things on TV when they get done with one of their exercises or whatever they're doing they lay down

flat on the ground they're so exhausted how come the CrossFitters got it all fucking figured out it's because their organs are failing so that's just the best way to get blood back

to the rest of the body I guess CrossFit is a killer yep it is yep how so people's organs fail

I guess is what Ds his big motivation. I've never tracked it. You wish you were mentally tough enough to go that hard to where your organs would fail, huh? I do. I actually do wish I was like that. A little on your back and your knees and your joints. I think the creator, like his organs failed. Well, I'm just saying this.

We don't know if what Diggs is saying is accurate or not. Mr. Crossword. I've been doing some workouts here lately that have been making me feel like exhausted. And I've enjoyed the feeling, actually. Oh, it's actually actually a rap though. It like feel, you know, they get rabdo. You run a marathon, you get rabdo. You do crossfit, you get rabdo. You're kind of a dead man. But I've been enjoying these workouts that have been leading me to exhaustion to be a hundred percent candid. A hundred percent. You need that. I think all of our bodies need that. Like you need to push your body. So you do feel totally totally exhausted it helps you the rest of your day but i'll tell you what i am laid down on that ground

in between different sets of things i am completely spread out oh my god i can't like for instance my boobies have been cramping up because there's been a lot of chest building and i'll get to the point where i can't even hold my phone to move the song. Okay. Can't like change the song on my phone. I can't even move my thing. So I'll just lay down with my T-Rex fucking arms like this on the ground and then I'll get like two minute break. And then I got a boxing timer that yells at me to get back into it. But I've been enjoying the exhaustion again. I've actually said that I miss the feeling of my legs being dead. And that is such a very weird thing to miss and i never thought you would ever hear me any strength coach that's ever been around me or human that's been

around me during conditioning would never think that i would say this but at the age of 33 whenever my legs are just completely blown up and dead i was like oh this feels good actually and then i can't get up off the shitter and there's other things that happen but it's been feeling good to kind of abuse the body a little bit here lately. What is the reason for it? Like, why are you on this kick? Because I got fat shamed on the internet. By who?

You fat shamed yourself. Well, maybe. I mean, I got to sit down, okay, on camera every single day. And when I'm built like a spark plug, when this gut starts to grow, I mean, mean it's just a real problem and then the internet starts calling me fat they're like oh once was thick now he's fat and it's like wait a minute i gotta get going and i had to have a talk with the mirror you know like hey are you gonna be a fat ass forever is this what's gonna happen and i've never been like a totally yoked guy that makes sense like never been jacked because i like to eat things i think i would like to see myself do that at least once.

And I think that time is now, by the way. Yeah. I'm 11 days into a new workout plan. I don't know if that's long enough to call it a habit or not, but I am currently looking forward to the workout I have coming whenever I go home this afternoon. Hell yeah. Hell yeah.

Hell yeah. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. I'm tired. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. I'm tired. Hell yeah. Hell yeah.

Hell yeah. Hell yeah. Hey, Finn Balor, Damian Priest, NXT TakeOver, June 7th. Day one battle. Breaking news on the show this morning, AJ. Oh, okay, good. You have any idea who any of those people are? Yep.

We broke news for WWE. I think I've heard of Finn Balor. Balor? Balor, yeah. The Balor Club. Not Chris Balor. No, not Chris Balor. He's the GM of the Colts.

Allegedly, he was trying to make some trades this offseason, from what I heard from the insides. Sam Roberts took a shot at you for no reason. What? No. Just undeserved. Sam Roberts? Do you like Sam Roberts?

AJ, you like Sam Roberts? Yeah, I know his stuff. What did he say to me? He said your chain was stupid. What? Oh, my. He's talking to me? Yeah.

I did have a chain on earlier today. What happened? I don't know, actually. To be honest with you, I got two Italian there for a second. Were you serious with that? I saw a little clip. Were you serious with that chain? I mean, serious.

What are you talking about, serious? Yeah, I was serious. It was matching my watch. I was Italian for the morning. You got any problems with that? No, I was just trying to see what's going on. You know, Stunt Cold Steve Austin wore a gold chain. You got anything problem with that?

What? What? What? He's a great human. Bingo. Have you ever talked to him on your show? No, I would love to. I've listened to some of his podcasts he has.

I know. I've watched the Broken Skull thing on WWE Network. It's great conversations, great insight, because I'm a big wrestling fan from back in the day and currently, but I've never had him on the show either. That'd be a cool conversation. I saw a little bit of Lil Wayne's show for the first time. With Stephen A.?

Who'd you see it with? Stephen A. Yeah, Stephen A. Smith was a guest on lil wayne show you're talking about uh young money live or whatever right yeah he's sitting like in a little studio in his house it looks like he had amigos on oh oh how'd that conversation go pretty good oh it was awesome he was talking to the one of one of me ghosts that just graduated high school it was awesome like they were just complimenting each other back and forth low wheezy uh people forget wheezy was on masked singer and somehow the three guests did not know it was low wayne when it literally sounded exactly like low

wayne the entire time and his voice is very distinct i watched the mass singer there for a little bit okay seen a white tiger gronk i enjoy guessing and getting things right but i don't know a lot of the there's some celebrities that get on there that i would never know who the hell the voices are or old old singers i wouldn't know who it is but as soon as little wayne came on i was like that's little wayne right there got it and no the the who are the judges uh robin thick the guy that did that thing with miley cyrus um mr uh the. The dude from the hangover. The dude from the hangover. Ken Jeong. Ken Jeong. There it is. Wait, you know Robin Thicke as the guy that did that thing with Miley Cyrus? Yeah, that's what he did. She bent over in front of him whenever

she was in that. Oh, like the MTV Music Awards. Yeah, Wrecking Ball. She was in that time of her life where she was really living. She has a mullet now, apparently, my lady told me. So I like that. She's all the way back. But that's how I know Robin Thicke. And then the lady from the Pussycat Dolls. Yeah, the lead one. Scherzinger. Wait, are they still around? The Pussycat Dolls? Nah, they broke up. It's a real shame.

But Scherzinger is on The Masked Singer right now. She's still there. She's crushing it. I can't get into The Masked Singer, man. I don't know why. It's not bad. The first couple episodes are not bad. It's just too long and drawn out. I want to see more people on a more quickly turnover rate but the fact that they didn't know who little wayne was i almost said change channel like you idiots should not be on television they must be paying well how'd they get little wayne to go on there oh yeah i think they are they got all the big names on there that show is massive but anytime

it's on there's like probably six out of the top ten trending topics are either guessing who's potentially the banana or the turtle or the time are those promoted from by the show or is that an organic thing that's trendy i think it's a lot i think a lot of people watch it i honestly do believe that a lot of people watch it it's a good show it's not a bad show nick cannon doing his thing whatever nick cannon does it's weird who knows like who no one has any clue what's going to hit like what's's gonna be a hit show I guess that show was big in Korea All those game shows come from overseas and then they come over here and Simon Cowell probably buys them up and then just launches

Oh Simon Cowell brilliant businessman just had a baby to at the age of like 94 weapon weapon of a man just a weather's a guy that wears a chain any unbutton thing old Simon cow Hack stars he does he? Yeah. Indoors. Oh, yeah. He wears very, very baggy denim. Yeah. Simon Cowell.

There's a guy that knows his brand. He's a beast. He's a beast. He was almost bankrupt a couple times. That's a beast move. Yeah. And then now he's obviously Simon fucking Cowell. 50 cent.

Is this show done? You've had this bat the whole show, I feel like. There it is right there hey do you see joe thomas on titan games closest win i've ever seen in the history of anything i think i mean he lost that thing to the fireman who he fell like at the very end when he didn't it wasn't where he kind of fell coming off that last kind of padding well when you land in a crash pad by the way it can be a little bit awkward on your legs he said he was feeling a bit woobly two or three the entire thing he's a big dude now to be going

through that entire thing i was very impressed by joe thomas's performance but boy it sure looked like he was going to lose it at fireman now he beat the fireman and took the fireman's dream and everything like that which i don't know how i don't know joe thomas loves that aspect of the whole thing but he he looked damn good in that poise at the end to put the little key into the hole and turn it while the fireman was kind of bouncing it around was next level. He said that on Twitter, I was following along with him a little bit, he said he didn't drag the ball far enough for him to really swing the ax because it's obviously attached to

ball and chain to the thing. But I thought Joe Thomas put on a hell of a performance, performance thought he was losing and then a great turn there at the end to get a win that was awesome is he on all year now i have no idea when did they film that i mean they're not going to be able to film anytime soon i would imagine if he's going back for like the semifinals i'm not sure did you somebody in this studio somebody in here watched that show last you did zito titan games yeah oh yeah yeah were you the one that asked me this morning did you watch titan games last night i was like i saw joe thomas but you watched the entire thing yeah there was a lady on there who was not a titan who was an absolute savage on that uh whatever former jess olympus mountain or whatever

what do you mean she wasn't a titan so there's a titan a team that the rock puts together the the lady was a professional boxer, I think he had. Joe Thomas was on there, other people. That's like his Titans. Victor Cruz was on there, too. Oh, and they challenge other people, like the Gladiators? Then two civilians, whatever they do, they compete to take on one of the Titans in Mount Olympus

or whatever the hell it is. And then if you win, you go on. If you lose, you have to do something else. It's a cool concept. Yeah, she beat the boxer, beat the boxer though she was amazing yes the boxer is the titan this she wasn't even i don't think halfway through this farmer lady was done i mean it was that's my apology that was the other lady the first lady i'm getting her name right now okay perfect it was next level i was very impressed and joe thomas he put himself out there by the way that is putting yourself out there to potentially be embarrassed.

I mean, you are 10-time Pro Bowler Joe Thomas. A lot of people say the greatest to ever do it at your position. In shape. He's in great shape. You potentially lose. Now, not that a fireman is not. But you're this elite electric athlete. The fact that he put himself out there and then got the win, I think, is a big deal.

And he said, wait until the rest of the season. He said he puts on quite a show on his Twitter. So I assume he's on out there and then got the win i think is a big deal and he said wait until the rest of the season he said he puts on quite a show on his twitter so i assume he's on there more and more i don't fully understand how it all works out though yeah i don't either how's the rock do as the host it's kind of interesting because he kind of walks around it's more like a candid casual just kind of like he was like doing voiceover as they're running through the thing it's a casual rock you know it's a casual rock it's got to be a casual rock he has 300 000 jobs right now like he's flying too it seems i don't know about now during covet but that dude he keeps a pretty tight schedule he did the murph the other day with uh uh good news guy

krasinski john krasinski oh really they did together yeah i think so from what i've been told because the murph people were promoting people to do it and i really wanted to do it but then i realized there ain't no fucking chance i'm doing 100 pull-ups yeah i saw the crossfitters they uh they jumped the fence of the local high school and they're out there doing the murph yesterday oh geez well listen good for them if you don't stand up for something you're gonna fall for anything yeah that lady's name was shantae mcmillan orlovsky did the murph he's like 145 pounds at this point, Orlovsky. It's like 6'6", 145. He really is.

He legit is very tall and very thin. That's a great body to have for the pull-up thing. Now, granted, those are long levers for him to get there. I could not do 100 pull-ups right now if you asked me to, let alone in the middle of a push-up, sit-up. Wait, is it 100 pull-ups? No, thanks. It is 100, but you have to wear a 20-pound weight vest, too.

10 sets of 10. Phil, our CFO, did the Murph. He did it in 38 minutes or something like that. I was FaceTiming him right before he was about to do it, and I was like, what's the Murph? And he told me about it, and I was like, you're going to do 100 pull-ups? He was like, 10 sets of 10, it's nothing.

I'm like, one set of 10 is a problem over here. Two sets of 10 is a nightmare. He's got tiny little feet though so there's not a lot oh you know he's just doesn't it start and end with a one mile run yeah that alone right there i'm done aj if it wasn't for the knees do you think you'd be an avid fitness guy i mean i'm an avid fitness guy but a non-impact like i can't run 10 feet like jog 10 feet my leg will fall off and go courses through my whole body, I feel like, if I try to run

distance. But no, I mean, obviously my knee and ankles and feet and Achilles and stuff get absolutely shredded if I try to run 200 yards. But I don't think I was built for long distance because I used to have to run the mile in high school, starting my freshman year, and I got worse and worse

as it went. And I didn't tear my PCL. I didn't have any issues the mile in high school starting like my freshman year. And I got worse and worse as it went. And I didn't tear my PCL. I didn't have any issues in my knee until my senior year of high school. And then I just got all the cartilage taken out over the next five years. But I still was terrible at distance before that. I think it's a genetics thing too. Because I played soccer, which is a distance running thing. And I was not good at it.

Like ever. My body just would never. I often sort of wonder if I had asthma. Can we get tested me for asthma maybe? Because asthma kids used to be able to sit out some shit whenever they were running i was like maybe i have that have we ever thought about that but we had to do the two miles in 12 minute test and it was always a race to the finish for me and then an immediate puke afterwards every single time and i was in i think some of the best shape i've ever been in my entire life and it was just like i don't know if I'm built for it. I never puked actually from

working out or running. I never was able to puke. Oh, so I could push myself. Oh, I could push myself, but I always, I would have moments when your mouth starts to keep watering. You don't like it and then you don't puke. You can't push yourself. You can't do it. You ever been punching a degenerate?

What? Huh? Have you? What'd you say? You ever been punching a your journey what huh what'd you say you ever been punching the journal i don't know what that means jackie man he never puked in a workout either until mox oh oh old uh eddie mark yeah moxley yeah eddie moxley john john moxon john moxon there it is no no no that's uh monics monics thereix. Monix punched him in the degenerate, and then he puked all over him. What is that from? Semi-pro. Semi-pro, dude.

Come on. Oh, it was. Okay, I've seen this. See, I don't have to recall like you do. No one called you a jive turkey. I didn't say you were a jive turkey. You didn't say you were a jive turkey. No one called anyone a JT.

Call you a cocksucker. You can call you a JT. That movie is next level. What about the other show we talked about? The tag show with the Watt brothers. Good show. Stop aligning yourself and looking at yourself in the monitor with the bat. I'm looking for you to pitch a ball, dude.

Take a big cut. You got to pitch it. You can't because you haven't pitched. Throw him the heat, AJ. Come on, AJ. Throw him the stinky cheat. Oh! He's going to the – he's safe!

He's safe! Oh, the pitcher. Suck it! AJ. Perfect drag bunt. Thank you. Oh, that's another thing that – like, when you're a lefty, you can drag that. You'll be halfway down the line as you're bunting.

Yep. I almost outrun an infield dribbler. Yeah. I legit was very close to outrunning one. I pulled my hamstring in the process, but I was very close to getting it. I feel like all of them were very close, but I feel like I almost did it in that game. Well, what about the tag show? Is it still going?

That has to be a series, right? You know, not 100% sure. Didn't come on the show to promote it went on everybody else's show oh yeah i forgot you're upset i am what network carries it fox i think fox yeah i'm gonna have to tune in i want to see the the three guys just chopping it up together me too i i am very happy that nfl players are hosting shows now at this point i'm pumped for jj and tj and derrick and the watt family nobody talked about the show though after it aired which is a problem in the world that we live in you know you start covering things

that get a little bit of buzz on the internet there was no buzz on tag let's assume episode two will be a little bit more buzz let's hope so because i hope jj and the watt family have success they need one of the ultimate taggers like blow a knee out or something like that from what i've seen, the whole time I'm like, these guys are going to have compound fractures. They're going to have some crazy injuries. That's what we need to see.

I have not watched. I have no idea. I honestly have no clue what the show is about. I've seen a little bit of a highlight or whatever, but I watch those parkour videos all the time. So I'm not 100% sure I'm that impressed with what I'm seeing because I see dudes doing what they're doing

on that little thing up like 70, 50 stories up in the sky. Top of a building. They should have got those guys. Ipso facso, parkour, parkour. There's a house in California that they should have got those guys to be professional taggers. They're fucking doing triple, quadruple McFlips off their houses. Can you make a living doing parkour and putting it on the internet?

I would like to put together a parkour team, potentially. You should sponsor a parkour team. I would love to. I spend 20 to 30 minutes of my day every day watching these little Spider-Men do their flips on the internet. Wait, what were you about to call them? You stopped yourself. I don't know what was coming out there.

I forgot. Start with an F. Yeah, well, it's probably an F word flying but i didn't want to say i didn't want to disparage them because it is a very dangerous game i think a lot of them have potentially lost more oh yeah than others have but they i very much appreciate them for their entertainment value it is amazing to watch these little things there are superheroes these i don't know how tall they are maybe four foot five i'm not 100, and I don't really care. But I saw a guy do like seven flips on a trampoline yesterday.

He got double bounced like you do with your kids. And he did like seven flips, and then he crashes into a crash pad right with his face. It's just unbelievable. They're like ninjas. They really are. They are like ninjas. They're little ninjas out there that we have just roaming amongst us. And we have no idea.

They look like a little pissant nerd. And then they take their shirt off they have a 40 pack and then they'll go right off your kitchen with their hands and do a front flip right in front of you it's unbelievable it's unbelievable stuff well there's all kind of facilities now built for like the american ninja warrior type stuff parkour like it's all it's a big industry right now jim connor used to be a place you could go as a kid if you want to. What's it called? Jim Conner. They used to have the springboard floor. I always wanted to go. My parents would never take me. Wait, like that old

MTV show, Singled Out, where you got to hit the right spot and it has a piston that shoots you out? You remember that? No, I do remember Singled Out. I don't remember the piston shootout. Singled Out was what Chris Hardwick and Jenny McCarthy, I think, hosted. They'd be on a beach doing these obstacle course things. I always wanted to see it where you got to run

and place your foot in the right spot, and it would shoot you up over top some water or whatever. And if you didn't hit it in the right spot, it would just dump you in the water. So it's like you're transporting whenever you hit this thing? It's like hopping into a pipe on Mario? It's spring-loaded with a piston or something. Bam, it would just shoot you whatever direction so now they have these little runners

that are little padded runners they're like the little blue thing i tried to get zito to buy one for the office but then he sent it over to phil to buy and phil said i'm not buying that on the company's card which is wow because the company's named after me but the the um these things are all over the internet. They made them slip and slides. Show me. I want to see one. Can you pull up that?

Do you remember what it was? I don't know what it's called. I don't know the name anymore. I'll find it. Look up blue gymnastic runny thingy. Is it just a pad? Yeah, but it's an inflated one, and it's a long one. And I think you just run down it, and it's like a trampoline, basically.

What? It's awesome. It is. I tried to get one for the office. you what it's awesome it is I try to get one for the office believe me believe you me I try to get one for the office chief of phil said no I can't do it pal why don't you just use your personal account oh maybe but then I'll just keep it at the house is phil doing this because pmi could also be phil mains inc is that why he's doing this potentially look at that thing right there get another shot of that thing that that thing is like a long runner and it's just i know what that is yeah it's awesome i saw somebody put it as a slip and slide the other day i was like brilliant idea there's running flipping slipping dipping diving i'm gonna have to look those up how much are they uh it was pretty expensive it's pretty pricey pretty pricey for know for phil to go no chance that normally

means that he thinks it's a bit astronomically priced we've been trying to pick up stuff like that for the office probably good that we don't got it you could dunk probably i don't know maybe that would work for your office olympics you guys still doing that nah i mean we did there for a while the numbers weren't generating enough for how much money we're giving away just wasn't one of those things that unfortunately just is not going to survive quarantine just wasn't you had to weigh pros and cons here on the internet you know like hey what are the pros okay it's fine it's something for us to do what are the cons well it's not getting a lot of views uh we're dying and we're giving away a lot of money so So this seems like a pretty easy decision.

Look at that thing. Look at that thing. Wow. AJ. Jeez. Wow. Yeah, it's awesome. What is that noise?

It's like a slip and slide trampoline. What's it called, Zito? Well, I can see how they get you, Pat. I see the blue thing, and it looks awesome, but you see that guy in mid-flip, and you're like, okay, that's me. That's me, because I see these little superhumans doing this off the ground. I'm like, well, I'm obviously never going to be able to do it off the grass, but you give me this air track thing.

I'm going to be able to potentially keep up with these guys. It's a great landscape to sell that thing to. You've got the well-manicured law in the ocean out there. We've got a discrepancy here. Dick's looking at the price. It's showing $500, which seems extremely doable. Phil's saying he never saw it. Oh.

Classic. Phil. Phil. Do they sell them on Amazon? This one, I can't look on Amazon. That would be a big hit at the Hawk House. Yeah, it's awesome. It's something that I've been wanting here for a couple months now, to be honest.

Get the long one, though. Yeah, there's two sizes. There's like a short little one that I for a couple months now to be honest. Get the long one though. Yeah, there's two sizes. There's like a short little one that I think you're just supposed to do one flip on. And then there's an extendo clip that you can really get after it on. Amazon, yeah. Because you can do the run. There. Whoa, four flips.

How much is the long one? Are you talking to me? Yeah. Well, let me do some research here. Shouldn't be that much research. You're literally just getting right there in front of you. 33 feet is 1,500. See, that might be. 10 feet, 500.

Come on. I wish the big one was 500. That's what I'm saying. I think this is potentially what Phil's song was like. 33 feet, though. 1,500 pounds. Let 33 feet though 1500 Actually getting What are you getting You're getting a good

A good deal Because if 10 feet's 500 You know Here we go Keep going I'm gonna hear this Well You're getting 3 extra feet

Well 30 feet should be 1500 Yeah you're getting 300 feet You're getting 3 extra feet Wow Getting an extra yard on that thing How can you not do that It's such a deal 3 extra feet You gotta do it Buy in bulk on that thing. How can you not do that? It's such a deal. Three extra feet.

You got to do it. Buy in bulk. I don't know. It sure feels like they're trying to rip people off over there on their track, but they got a good product. 20 feet is $9.50. I mean. That's the deal.

That's the deal. So we need two 20-footers there. That's the way you operate this thing. Is Phil listening? Phil's definitely listening. Hey, yesterday on the show, we brought up Mayor Pete, and Diggs said he didn't know him. Was that true? You really never even heard of Mayor Pete? No. Let me do some research here.

Did you see the construction site? I'm from Pittsburgh. I don't know. People are faced... What are you trying to say? Like, isn't he a mayor of some town in Indiana? South Bend. You're practically the mayor of South Bend. You live there, I thought. I mean, I go there like six times a year, so yeah, basically the mayor... Six times a month. What's in South Bend.

That's not even possible. Notre Dame. This shows over, shows over. That is it. Everybody. Thank you so much for watching. Jesus.

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Lombardi! How we doing? I got a little problem with my phone here, but I'll figure it out. I'm in my office, but I got it. No, you can't be like that. People are going to roast you on the internet. We got to get that thing down a little bit. There we go.

Hey, Hugh Jackson held it this close to his face the entire interview on the internet. The internet was so rude about it for lunch it was not it was not good uh mr lombardi thank you so much for taking time to join us every time we get to speak anytime how's our campaign going we haven't lost yet well we haven't lost yet but i'm not sure if you're not in the race you can lose you know what i mean yeah some people so far out of the race actually think they're in the lead so i don't know we'll see what happens huh uh we we listened to you this morning on visa and talk about how the fourth and 15 option is not one that you love for the alternate for an onside kick at

the end of the game because onside kick percentages success percentages have gone down so much without the rolling start without the the overload, with everybody up. You said that you hated the fourth and 15 concept, and I didn't get a chance to hear the entire reasoning why it was clipped and sent to our group text. But I wanted to talk to you about it because if you're all about keeping the onside kick in the kicker's foot, I'm all about it as well. And I want to hear from one of the smartest men I've ever heard talk about football. First of all, I don't think we should take a special team's play and then put it, attach it to an offensive play. Like if you want to change the onside kick, okay, I'm all for doing that. If you want to give the team a chance, you know,

call it 30% chance to get the ball back, great. But most of the time during a game, when the team has the onside kick, the other team's been in control of the game, right? They've been in control. The clock's been their opponent. It hasn't, you know, and so they're letting it go. And so the odds should not go up any favorably. And if you convert a fourth and 15 because some guy calls pass interference or somebody roughs the quarterback,

now all of a sudden the game is being taken out of control. I think if we want to change it, I think we should change it so that we change the onside kick rule. And give guys who have talent like you did to do the onside kick. Thank you. Give them a chance to be successful and not have it so that, you know, it doesn't work the other way. I mean, I'm not a big fan of changing the game for the offensive sake i just don't want to do that i think it's so interesting what you're talking about right there because i didn't even think about how the refs will have their hands all over this and all over the amount

the amount of conspiracy theories that'll be out there if an onside kick or a fourth and 15 is converted because of a pass interference and it goes favorably to let's say belichick squad against the saints for the cowboys against the cow with something of that nature the amount of because of a pass interference and it goes favorably to let's say belichick squad against the saints for the cowboys against the cow with something of that nature the amount of conversation that will spark from that will be next level and you're right roughing the passer to these little glance of the helmet all of a sudden now you're putting a ref in a position like okay do i call that because by the book it is the rule but if i do call it now we're completely extending the game and potentially changing the outcome of a game that matters very very much for the maybe the success of the entire

city going forward that is an interesting thing that i haven't even thought about is the penalty factor of it yeah and then and then add the fact that look say you have the ball and you're up by 10 points say you're the opponent has the ball and you're up by 10 and there's eight minutes to go in the game they drive it all the way down the field and you're up by 10 and there's eight minutes to go in the game. They drive it all the way down the field, but they use up almost seven minutes. They get it below the two minute to score. Now you're going to reward them by giving them a chance to convert when the defense has been tired for seven minutes. Because the reason the defense is tired is because the opponent has been the clock, not the team on the field.

So they've let that clock milk down. They're doing their job. Now you're going to reward them for a fourth and 15 when the defense is tired and that you can't play zone against it because it's too easy. If you play man and get your hands on a fourth and 15, they'll be able to call you. I mean, you're really limited. You play zone and you illegal contact the receiver eight yards down the field.

Oh, flag. Okay, try it again. Oh, no, flag. Try it again. I mean, how many of that bats do you want to get? Why? So we can take the worst team, the team that's been behind all game, and give them a competitive chance.

You know, I'm not for it. Hey, if you don't want us dancing, don't let us score. If you don't want to lose because you can't convert an onside kick, don't be down at the end of a game. That is kind of the thought of everything. And it's interesting because they are overturning the reviewing of pass interference

because Alberto Riveron botched it so much last year. And when the report came out that Troy Vinson has said, we failed on the pass interference review, it's like, I don't think that's accurate, Troy. I think the rest of the world got it right, actually. There was just one person who was choosing whether or not to overturn it that got it wrong and now you're talking about fourth and 15s extending games and pass interference and you

can't review it this is very interesting you're 100 right this puts even more pressure on the humans on the field who already have enough pressure on them to potentially not get hated by everybody in the building at all times no doubt i mean look mean, look, we know Riveron was sleeping for nine months. I mean, I don't know what Troy's talking about. Ripon Riveron was sleeping. I mean, how many calls did he miss? And they're telling me the system was broken. Had Riveron made calls that should have gone the right way,

we wouldn't be complaining about it. But he was asleep at the wheel. I mean, and Troy's coming in late and talking about it like, oh, we did a bad job. Well, Troy, your job is to fix the problem when it happens, not after a reflection. I mean, that's not what we do. I really think, and just another thing,

holding on offense should only be five yards, not ten yards. It makes no sense that that's a ten-yard penalty. Garrett Bowles supports that completely. Well, I believe that because if you get one holding, which happens on every single play it drives over it's over gary poles you got to take him off the field because he kills more drives than anybody for the denver broncos the left tackle i mean that's why he supports five yards he's written the petition he's got it up before congress he's clearly he holds all day

long so every once in a while you'll come on here and there's just some buddy that i don't even know is in the league that's just going to get buried from michael lingard this guy well i mean you know it's he's the starting left tackle for the denver broncos and if you talk to anybody who watches bronco games he's a drive killer he's a drive killer he just he holds he leaves the league in holding the last three years and it by the way holding king you're called on every single play you ask any offensive lineman they'll say that you ask any defensive lineman they'll say that it's just the egregious ones that get called but if they're called or accidentally called it's like yeah well there's 10 yards your entire drive is over let's talk about the football power index

did you see this thing come out computers uh dictated what's going to happen next season no i haven't seen it i can't wait to see this okay what's the what's the what's what do we have what do you have up your sleeve first four makes sense kansas city chiefs baltimore ravens niners saints okay and then at five they have the dallas cowboys you don't even know who's gonna play quarterback why is that could you fathom why a computer thinks the dallas cowboys are gonna be number five well i i think that probably because jerry owns the computer and he's programming so that he knows it that was literally what i said. I actually said that that computer must live on Jerry Jones' yacht. Jerry's got stock in that computer company running the thing.

There's no doubt. I mean, what does Jerry not have stock in? Like, you know, seriously. You know, all the masks we bought, I'm sure Jerry was buying, had that stock in there, you know? So I think the Cowboys will be pretty good. I really do. I think McCarthy gets a beating for being a bad coach.

I think McCarthy's a solid coach. He's a solid coach. And I think they need solid. Look, they were 31st in the National Football League last year in close games. They were 1-7 in close games. They couldn't win one. They had the worst special teams in football. They hired one of the best special teams coaches in John Fossil. i'm surprised the eagles are that high frankly i think the eagles

my inclination with the eagles are it's going to be a hard schedule for them can you see this list yeah you can see this list right now yeah i do and i love seattle look i love seattle i think tampa is way overrated i i look i really do how about new england be a nine though we don't know if it's jared stidham nobody England be a nine, though, with Jared Stidham? How about that? We don't know if it's Jared Stidham. Nobody has come out and said it's Jared Stidham. Do you think it is definitely Jared Stidham being a starting quarterback week one?

I think it's – look, no one's going to be given a job in New England, right? So it's going to be his job to lose, but, I mean, he's going to have to earn it all the way. There's no doubt about that. He's going to have to earn that job. You've come on here and said before that you don't see the Cam Newton factor for New England at all. He's still a free agent right now. Do you think he lands anywhere? And do you think any of these teams that are in, let's say the top 14 would pick him up to your backup quarterback? Oh, I mean, look, if you're smart, if you're Pittsburgh, I mean, I love the Duxter. You love

the Duxter, but we wouldn't want but we wouldn't want his name going out there. The Rams don't have a backup. They don't have cap room. Buffalo, I think Buffalo's got a Super Bowl team, but it comes down to Josh. You put Cam Newton on the Buffalo Bills, you would give them the East right now. You would give them the East.

Brandon Bean, general manager of the Buffalo Bills, said he will not bring in Cam Newton because he is empowering Josh Allen. They're putting the pieces around Josh Allen. They want Josh Allen to know this is his team. They think that Josh Allen made a massive jump last year, which I would say he did. And they're expecting that same type of thing going into next year. But it will be interesting because if he doesn't and the Bills Mafia does not do because it's the first time the door has been open in the AFCs. and the Bills Mafia does not do, because it's the first time the door's been opened in the AFCs,

if they don't have success, will Bills Mafia or people around the league and people that speak into microphones say, you know, if they had Cam Newton, probably a much better squad. That's going to happen in a lot of places, by the way. The places, that's going to happen everywhere. I mean, Brandon can say all he wants, and I respect him. I really do. But Josh Allen's 7 for 54 on throws over 30 yards. You know, he's 21 for 76 on throws over 20 yards. I mean, if he went to the county fair,

he ain't bringing back a stuffed animal. I'm just telling you. You know, it's hard for him, okay? It's hard for him. He's not bringing back. I mean, so look, you can have Stephon Diggs wide right open. And if you can't hit him, you're not getting a stuffed animal. You're not getting a touchdown. Brandon Bean would say that he hadn't had a deep threat like Stephon Diggs. That's why his numbers haven't been great. I don't know if John Brown gets down the field. I think they've got guys who get down the field.

But anyway, we can debate that later. Jacksonville Jaguars are ranked number 32 out of 32 teams on this FBI. How do you feel about that? Well, you know, my nickname for the general manager is David Blaine Caldwell because he's a magician. He's truly a magician. He's been remarkable. Since 2013, they've only picked outside the top ten once.

He still has his job. He has more players outside the top five that are playing somewhere else than on his team. So I think they're definitely tanking. I mean, when you sign Mike Lennon, and God love Mike Lennon, right? I mean, but Mike Lennon as the backup quarterback instead of Cam Newton, seriously, are you really trying to win? Are you trying to win? I don't think you are. I mean, like, Cam Newton's better than Gardner Minshew. He's better than, he's better. I mean, Cam's got to be sitting in Charlotte saying, like, seriously, they would rather have Gardner

Minshew and Mike Lennon? If you and I were to make a trade and Cam Newton, and we could trade Gardner Minshew and Mike Lennon for Cam Newton, with that, there's no way that you would get turned down that trade every time. So it makes no sense. So clearly, Jacksonville's tanking. They want Trevor Lawrence. Let's talk about trades a little bit because you were general manager for the Browns

and you were in the front office there for a while with the Patriots. When trades happen, we talked to Brandon Bean who said last year whenever he heard there was maybe a potential rift between Diggs and the Vikings, he was like, hey, we're in the market for a wide receiver. Do you guys look to trade? And they said, no, we're not looking to trade. I think he alluded to the fact that he was potentially in the market for Emmanuel Sanders and somebody else. They were in the market for a wide receiver but it was it none of them

came to fruition that's why he got digs this off season when he could but whenever you're a general manager are you all year like looking around snooping around like hey is there a chance this guy's on the market and what would you take for him like for instance people are saying jamal adams of the jets is potentially going to get traded to the Cowboys because Jerry wants to bring him back to Dallas. Jamal Adams isn't happy with the Jets because the GM answered a call on a potential trade after telling him he's not going to get traded. Like, is there other teams other than the Cowboys calling the Jets right now? Like, hey, we heard Jamal Adams is potentially on the block.

Is that happening? Do those conversations happen on a frequent basis? Yeah, I think they do. And I mean, a lot of it is because you can follow the, you know, connect the dots, right? So Jamal Adams, does Joe Douglas, the GM of the Jets, does he want to pay Jamal Adams huge money in his sixth year? Does he want to extend his deal? And if you say probably he doesn't, let's just say he doesn't, then you know he's available. Then you know he's available because you know he doesn't want to pay him for a long-term deal. So now you've got to get into the market and you've got to decide, do I pay him a huge sum of money to get an extension, plus satisfy the Jets on the trade? Those are hard things to do. Those are hard things to do.

He's available, but you've got to have an appetite to pay the player and then pay the ransom. Those are hard things to do. That's what happened with Jalen Ramsey last year getting out of Jacksonville. Everybody saw there was a beef, and he was owed a big contract at some point. For instance, though, like Malik Hooker's fifth-year option was declined by the team. If you're the GM of another team, does that make you think like, okay, the Colts are potentially good to part ways with Malik

if we come with the right setup to get him? I'm not saying that the Colts will trade Malik Hooker. This is just a situation that just happened in Indianapolis. Is there GMs calling Bauer like, hey, what's the deal with Malik? You don't want him to do it. Can we potentially get in play with him because we look to pay for him later? Yeah, no, I think he's definitely in play. And I think there's teams that are having dialogue. And I think what Chris Ballard has to decide to do, do I take this pick or do I wait for the compensatory pick? Would I rather have the player than the pick? I mean, I'm not going to have the player after next year anyway,

so it doesn't really matter. But do I want him this year for this team or would I rather have the pick for next year's team? And that's the debate. And clearly, based on the offers he's gotten, he'd rather have the player than the pick. He's available. It's just going to come down to whether you want to pay the price that chris wants for him so you guys like jamal adams is mad at joe

douglas for taking the call from the cowboys to potentially trade for him whenever he told joe douglas told jamal adams that he wasn't going to trade him are general managers on the phone a lot talking about trades like a lot more than i could ever imagine oh absolutely i mean and you're going to call the guy up and say hey look you know I know you don't want to sign Jamal, you know, and the reason teams will say, you know, they're not trading the guys because it helps their stock. They have to improve their position. You know, they're negotiating leverage when it gets out

that Stefan Diggs is unhappy, it tends to go down. So what do you do to increase your negotiating leverage? You say, no, you say, I'm not trading them. That gives you strength in a negotiation. It doesn't mean you're not going to do it. There's all different variances of no. If you called the Bengals to trade for Joe Burrow, that would be a no. If you called the Bengals to trade for Ryan Finley, they might say no, but that's really not a no. That's a different kind of no. So you've got to figure out what no's mean anything like this. DeAndre Hopkins was available all last year, all last year, all summer.

He was available before the season began. It's just they couldn't find the price that made sense for them. Shinzu, Art of War, look strong when weak, look weak when strong. I like to hear that most GMs are doing that. You traded Trent Richardson for a number one overall pick to the Indianapolis Colts was there other teams that were calling for Trent and how did we know that Trent was potentially being traded well because remember when go back to the time when you were on that team you wouldn't you needed a running back you didn't have a you didn't have a bell cow and we had just come into Cleveland and

basically I knew the longer we played Trent Richardson the worse it was going to get like either we traded him now or we were going to get a fifth or a sixth round pick for him so we had to make take while the shine was on him we had to make it so Joe Banner the the the president of the team he and Ryan Grigson go back to the Philadelphia days and he floated it out there hey look we'll trade guys but we're not giving guys away and he took the bait he took the bait and then we were negotiating with nobody else really was that that hot after him especially for who trades a first round pick for a running back but you guys were chasing a super bowl we were and and that was going to get the guy over the top my son worked for the 49ers and everybody at the niners, you played the Niners the next week.

Right? And everybody on that staff was like, why'd your dad trade him to the Colts? That's dumb. Your dad's going to get fired. Hey, they were right. Your dad did get fired. But that wasn't a bad trade. Well, we had Ahmad Bradshaw too at that time and he had a neck issue

but he was healthy for that Niners game. Ahmad, I think, had two touchdowns, maybe three touchdowns. Trent, I think, got a touchdown. That was out in Candlestick. at that time and he had a neck issue but he was healthy for that niners game ahmad i think had two touchdowns maybe three touchdowns trent i think got a touchdown that was out in candlestick from the one yard line somebody oh oh oh my god were you watching that game after you traded i was watching that game i studied every play are you kidding me i knew i was right but i wanted to make sure i was right golly That's an interesting little piece of information. Like right now, there's a conversation happening between two GMs about a potential trade, do you think?

Yeah, no doubt. And sometimes it goes like this. When Ron Wolfe traded for, you know, Ron Wolfe got, remember the running back, Ahmad Green? Oh, yeah. Okay, so Ron Wolfe calls up, I forget who the GM was at Seattle at the time. It might have been Randy Mueller. He calls up Randy Mueller and says, hey, Randy, I got, you know, Fred Vincent, I think as a corner,

who's going into his fourth year, I'm not going to probably sign him. You got anybody who you don't want to sign going into their fourth year. Let's just trade those two guys. And he traded them on green for Fred Vincent. And that's how the deal happened. You think anybody ever called the trade for me? Uh, you know you know i i would probably think there would have been you know because you changed field you did kickoffs punts i mean you know nobody wears shorts like that i mean come on seriously who can pull that off you see them i mean that thigh is worth i mean that thigh is worth a lot of money let's face it that thigh is worth a lot of money this one ain't it. This guy is worth a lot of money. This one ain't worth a single damn, but this one here is really good. Hey, Mr. Lombardi, as are you. Great conversation. I feel

like I learned a lot and I appreciate the hell out of you, buddy. Thanks, buddy. I appreciate it. Sorry for the phone. I got to get my office fixed here. I'll get it worked out. What happened? What's going on over there? Well, I got, I'm in my office here. So this is like, it looks like a detective agency in here. I, I got Jerry Rice over here I got my man Randy over here MVP a tailgating. I got my man Randy. I got the Sopranos over And then I got Valley Forge military Academy over here where they set me off to so I didn't know I got a little Browns member base But this is where I kind of work sometimes I come down here

But I gotta get a better gig or I have a I have a computer ins memorabilia. But this is where I kind of work. Sometimes I come down here, but I got to get a better dig. Or I have a computer in here with a video screen. I just got to hook it up with your guys. We'll send you a thing that will hold it up there and even put some good lighting on there. We'll get that pies on. I got a video camera. Your video guy's got to call me. We'll work it out.

Zeta, the guy you'll be – is this guy. This guy is the guy that will be calling you right there. The guy that says – Call me. We'll get it straightened out. Hey, you were incredible today. Thank you so much, ladies and gentlemen. This guy is the guy that'll be calling you right there. The guy that says. Call me, we'll get it straightened out. Hey, you were incredible today. Thank you so much. Ladies and gentlemen, Michael Lombardi.

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How is lockdown quarantine in California? The last time we got to see your pool, it was one of the most beautiful views I've ever seen in my life. How is the lockdown in California at the moment? It's a little gray right now, but that's normal. May and June, you get the June gloom and May gray. But burns off around

noon, and then it's high 70s, low 80s, beach weather, pool weather. Waiting for sports to come back, man. It looks like we got some traction on the NBA, so that's nice, but I feel like the NFL is getting the benefit of watching all these other sports go through stuff, and by time it's you know football season they're just going to

roll right through it and make it happen the nfl is going to ford the river for sure they don't know how they're going to go about doing it steven ross has already come out and said we're going to play games we just don't know if they're going to have fans or not which seems to be a government decision then you look at the mlb the negotiation between the players association and the league that is not going to happen there's a potential there's a potential i get to play for the yankees this year because i think they want to have a season but the players aren't going to play but let's talk about your were you born and raised in southern california yes sir okay you played at usc born and raised southern california this name image likeness thing that's coming to be

if you if you were at usc when you were or linert or back whenever usc was relevant how big do you think this name image likeness thing would play in for the usc trojans it's huge i mean the market is so big uh you just feel like well then it's unfair to certain guys you know because they're not you're not the starting quarterback at sc let's say you're uh maybe a tackle or a defensive player that's a solid player but you're not gonna sell as many jerseys so then you don't get the revenue well it works like that in the nfl too it works like that all over sports so i mean it's just kind of a free market system the other thing though is what's frustrating to me and a lot of these players now let's say you play water polo for us usc you play um soccer for usc and you're

on the u.s national team and in the summer you want to have a little clinic you want to do a little soccer clinic in your local neighborhood you want to put on a little water polo uh whatever exhibition game or something and you can't charge kids by using your name image and like this on your instagram you can't put out a an ad saying hey sign up it's 25 bucks i'll teach you how what we do with water polo i'll teach you how to do some drills in soccer and you can't use that and you just want to potentially a gold medal or you meddled in the olympics and you play in college and and you can't advertise that to do a little summer camp. That's crazy. But as soon as you open up that box, it's on. And then it's just a free enterprise, free market. And now, you know, boosters are going to be paying kids to come speak

at their golf club and their tournament for 20 grand. I mean, think about it. You don't think Kyler Murray could have got 20 grand from some guy in Oklahoma that wants him at his golf club. For sure he can. So it's just going to be a totally different landscape. But everything, I feel like everything after this pandemic, you know, you told me six months ago this was going to be going on. You're going to be wearing a mask and gloves to go get gas in your car. I would have said you're crazy. But I just feel like anything's on the table now,

especially after the world went through what it went through. Well, Reggie Bush is currently caught up in a misquote out of context thing and by the way there's a guy that lost his heisman because of an alleged name image likeness receiving cash so his family could have an apartment i don't remember the exact story i'll be intrigued to see how it all plays out and i didn't plan on asking you that question but then as i remember that you have lived this perfect life out in southern california i just thought about reggie bush there. Let's talk about the NFL a little bit. Let's pivot over to the NFL a little bit. There's a quarterback out there in Cam Newton

who just saw Mike Glennon get signed to the Jacksonville Jaguars who, by all accounts, have gone all in with Minshew being their guy. They're bringing Glennon to be a backup. Then you see Joe Flacco get signed to the Jets. He's not even going to be ready by the time season kicks off, if season kicks off at the same time. If you're Cam Newton, what's your mindset? Where do you think he potentially ends up and is there a chance he sits out this year as a guy who's a former quarterback in the nfl at a very high level i don't i don't

think he sits out i think every year um you know and it's unfortunate but especially because of the way this offseason has gone the chance for for injury is so high. And you're not hoping anybody gets hurt. You're not predicting anyone gets hurt. But usually there's anywhere from three to like six on a high year of quarterbacks who go down, just starters, whether it's in training camp, they twist an ankle, they bust their thumb on a helmet. I mean, something always happens, right? So he's going to get a chance.

It's just how long is he willing to wait for that chance? And will he be ready when he gets that opportunity? I think if I'm him, you know, I would have thought the Chargers would have been a good landing spot for him, but they shored up their quarterback room, so they're out. But look at a place that has somebody coming back from injury. Get them in Pittsburgh, man. That's a place that's listen you

got to understand the dynamic of cam too he's not just bringing a player he's a person out he's a big personality guy and that's what fuels him that that is what makes cam cam right a lot a lot like uh you know if people like well you know maybe if he was a little more humble well if floyd mayweather talked a little less smack he's not floyd mayweather so i don't want to hear it that's just who he is and he's a baller he was an mvp so go to pittsburgh he can handle it tomlin can handle him tomlin handled ab and levy on bell for a couple years at the same damn time by the way and roethlisberger so if anybody can handle it and anybody has a strong enough starter, I'd go to Pittsburgh.

Okay, so the alleged stories out of Pittsburgh is that they don't want to bring in another quarterback that Ben Roethlisberger views as potential competition because they want to go all in with Ben here. They want him to feel good and empowered and things of that nature. Whenever you were done, when you decided to retire, were you injured? I don't remember how it ended with old Mark Sanchez. I ended in D.C. and had a couple opportunities in TV and just thought, you know, this is kind of the route I'm going. I feel like I played for a while. I got my son, who was at the time had just turned two.

And for me to go away for six to nine months every year wasn't the ideal situation for me at home. And so I get a chance to be a dad, get to be around sports, and had a good little run. But it was the right decision and the right timing for me. When you went into the NFL, did you expect success? Yeah, I would assume your number five overall pick, you had to expect success. But the success that you had in the New York Jets franchise that they haven't had since, and they didn't have before that for a long time, I think to a lot of people in the NFL world was a bit surprising,

especially whenever you mix in the fact that Rex Ryan was the head coach, which nobody knew what was going to happen. Well, we had such a veteran team, and that's what's difficult, you know, for a guy like Sam Darnold right now. He's going through this like, well well Sanchez went to the AFC championship twice it's like well we drafted at a way different position we had a secure offensive line we weren't building an offensive line like they are we added skill players right away we added like three hall of famers to our team in my first two years that set the mood in the locker room. They handled everything we had.

I mean, coach, coach didn't have to say much to the team other than get us fired up like he did, but everything else was handled. Nobody was late. Everybody took care of their business because we had a veteran team right now. They're still building something for Sam. And if you look at those last couple of games last year, I mean, he was easily one of the best quarterbacks in the division last year. And he's playing his butt off. They just weren't playing for anything yet. So it's it's difficult. And I went a different way with that question. But when I came in, you're in that rookie bubble, right?

You don't know what's what and you're just head down and playing. So when we go back to back AFC championships, sure, we had our ups and downs in those years, but you just don't, that just becomes normal, right? So the third year when we didn't make the playoffs, it was like the end of the world, you know, it was the first time I wasn't playing into December, January with a bowl game in college or deep into the playoffs. And so we're done right after new year's.

It was the weirdest feeling feeling and then we got so much heat from the media it felt like everything was over like you just ruined everyone's life you know so it was uh that was one of the toughest off seasons for me is is trying to handle that adversity and then we started playing the you know the the turnstile door and and and um you know adding a bunch of free agents, changing everything up every year, and it became difficult. Consistency is such a big deal for a team to have success. And that's not just because the players know each other, but it's also the chemistry of the locker room, which is a massive X factor. I'll never forget, we played in the Super Bowl my rookie year. We beat you guys, knocked you guys out of the playoffs.

I didn't do anything, to be honest. I had two tackles. Give your kid his Hulk hands back, all right? Dad of the year. But whenever we lost the Super Bowl, that was the most miserable locker room I'd ever walked into in my life. I've said this before. The most miserable place I've ever walked into before

was that locker room after we lost the Super Bowl. In my mindset as rookie was like god we'll be back next year dude like what are we even worry about it what do we guys cheer up we're gonna be we did not a couple years later we're almost completely defeated because of the structure and organizational change and things like that how important is it for us to withhold judgment of a quarterback if they're in a situation that is obviously not ideal for their success because i believe that if a quarterback is in a bad spot there's a chance that their career no matter how good they are is not going to be worth it damn am i accurate in saying that not just quarterback every player but the organization is such a big deal it's it's every player but especially at that position. Then you've got to add the psychological part of it, the perception part of it.

That perception now, especially because of cell phones and social media, guys get those opinions immediately to their phone in the locker room. That becomes what they think. That becomes like, oh, well, maybe this guy isn't a starter. Maybe he's better as a backup. Maybe we should draft so-and-so. So those things leak in the building. And the best organizations have a good system in place to try and block out all that noise. And it is hard, man.

It's hard. But you look at what's encouraging about some of these young guys. And it's, I mean, when we were texting about the AFC East last night, Josh Allen, you know, Stidham, those kind of guys. The Patriots, they're set up very similar to when Tom came in and played. They got some veteran guys. They got guys who won a bunch of playoff games. I mean, that kind of experience is crazy.

There's nothing that can make up for that. And all those guys have a little chip on their shoulder. You think the Patriots are going to be good next year, huh? Yeah, you do. It's them or the Bills in the East. It's them or the Bills. Brian Flores is not going to be happy to hear that.

Why? Tell me why not. I just think that they have three really good running backs right burkhead michelle and um give me the other one james white yeah white right sweet feet tell me their skill players aren't the best or second best in the division to buffalo okay well let's talk about that buffalo team that you're talking about and we're talking about the tweets and the texts and getting into the building like maybe this guy isn't the starter i think that is why

a lot of people are scared to bring in cam newton as a backup quarterback because it is as soon as somebody struggles let's say it's josh allen because it was linked that they're calling for him they're calling for his head yeah bingo and brandon bean came on our team or came on our show gm for the bills he said we're empowering josh allen to say hey this is your team right but going into his third year now he made a big jump last year going into his third year i feel like bill's mafia is expecting him to be a much better quarterback than he was last year when he was good last year much better than he was his first year i think bill's mafia is going to expect a lot out of him and if they were to bring in a cam newton or something of that nature there's a chance that they're calling for that guy and i think that

stinks for cam newton that he's so good but that's a reality of the situation it's the reality of the situation it's the way the quarterback market was this year it was oversaturated and he's just in a tough spot at a tough time but when you're that good of a player when you have that kind of determination something usually good happens i mean the guy was the mvp of the league he took his team to the super bowl he's got serious talent and serious potential, and he's got something to prove right now. So he's a dangerous player that he could step in and do something pretty serious. But you go to Josh Allen, and I know the bar has been set pretty high.

You know, they get to the playoffs, all this kind of stuff. It's really a couple decisions with the football, especially late in the game against Houston. That ball comes out, squirts out a little bit. He takes a couple hits that you don't want him to take. If he takes a handful less hits, takes care of the ball maybe a handful more times, we're talking 10 total plays, 10 total plays. And this dude's QBR, the perception of him, the way things will just get going.

And look at their – look what they did for him. I mean, they got some good running backs now. They just grabbed the kid from Utah who's a baller, Moss. They got Singletary who kind of took over for LaShawn McCoy's role. So they got a serious catcher out of the backfield, a guy who can catch 40, 50 balls easy. And if he can rely on a guy like that, use his legs when he has to, and stop taking those big hits even though he's a big body, best ability is availability do not get hurt you cannot get hurt right what did

what did um um tom moore say if peyton manning he said why did the backups didn't get any any reps he said because if peyton goes down we're effed we don't practice that so you're not getting any reps backup quarterback peyton stay healthy josh allen stay healthy keep balling but stay healthy take care of that football if 18 goes down work anyway tom moore legend of a man uh good he is josh allen the big problem that he has and michael lombardi comes on our show and he drops his stat all the time he was like one for 700 on deep balls or something last year. How easy is that to adjust as a quarterback?

Can you get better at that? Like, let's say you bring in a Stephon Diggs who is a real deep threat. Can you get better at that type of thing? Is that something you can get better at? Got to practice it a bunch, especially with that kind of guy, and practice all the situations. Like, is this a cover to whole shot deep ball, or is this just

put everything you can in run under it what exactly are you trying to get out of these deep balls and then go back and look some look at some of the stats like around 40 yards and five yards from the sideline is when they're usually caught that's like kind of average and pretty solid look at look at some of the best deep ball throwers. You're not completing more than 25%, 30% of those balls. You're completing all these balls underneath. And then you take your shot. Even if you go one for four on deep balls, as long as you hit your other,

you know, if you go 15 for 20 on the other ones, who cares? Who cares? You might have a big splash play down the field but if you're consistent look at true he's not completing balls 50 60 yards down the field they for 50 or 60 because of who he's throwing to but those balls are getting completed like that he's really good for everybody that's good well i just get you know i get a bit antsy over here as soon as you i got add too so as soon as you say somebody's name not you the first thing that pops into my mind is what happens uh before we let you go here we can't thank you enough for joining us

tom brady incredible golfer obviously showcase that did you watch the match what were your thoughts peyton manning legendary. I saw some of those. Charles Barkley is one of the dudes around. I mean, you and Charles Barkley should do stuff. You should commentate on everything. I would like to let Charles Barkley know I would like to work together at some point if Turner wants to back a Brink's truck up there. Absolutely. Thanks for sending that.

I'm going to need a cut of that. Get your little cowboy ass out there to Southern California. Ladies and gentlemen, Jets quarterback, USC All-American. What a stud. Fifth pick overall in the draft. Fifth. And we beat you my second year. Knocked you out of the playoffs. I forgot to tell you. Get him out of here.

Mark Sanchez. Thank you, Mark. Good guy, by the way. Love Sanchez That's my Mark For Mark Appreciate y'all Thank you guys Thank you Mark Good guy by the way Love Sanchez Yeah Big fan

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Rex Ryan deserves Another head coaching gig I believe And Mark Sanchez Deserves a little, is calling for the spotlight to keep coming, too. Rex Ryan deserves another head coaching gig, I believe. And Mark Sanchez deserves a little bit more credit for the success he had with the New York Jets. Can't thank you enough for choosing to listen to this show. I know you have a lot of other options. The fact that you allow us to penetrate your ears, we are eternally grateful. Thanks to all the guests, obviously, taking time out of their day to chit-chat with us. We'll see you manana for a nice feel-good Friday. Ty Schmidt, please play some independent music. សូវាប់បានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបា I want to

Fall in love I want to Thank you. សូវាប់ពីបានប់ពីបានប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពី Thank you. សូវាប់ពីបានប់ពីបានប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពី Thank you. I'm not a fool