The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 207 - Legendary Boxer, Evander Holyfield, Deep MLB Talk With Jeff Passan, And Super Bowl Champion Chatter with James Jones & AJ Hawk.. Stacked Friday. Let's Go.

Episode Date: May 29, 2020

On today's show, Pat is joined by a slew of great guests. First, the only man to be a 4x World Heavyweight Champion, bronze medalist at the 1984 Olympic Games, one of the greatest boxers of all-time, Evander "The Real Deal" Holyfield joins the show. Pat and Evander talk about him coming out of retirement for an exhibition fight for his charity Unite4OurFight.org, and what all of that entails. They also discuss who some potential opponents could be, whether or not him and Mike Tyson decided to come back at the same time, and Evander walks us through Mike Tyson biting his ear off, and everything that went into that (1:02-19:08). Next is another installment of McAfee & Hawk Sports Talk where Pat and AJ welcome in ESPN MLB Insider, Jeff Passan to discuss whether or not there is going to be an MLB season this year, what Jeff is hearing from the players and why they're pissed at the MLB's proposal, how much power super agent Scott Boras wields in negotiations, and gives a peek behind the curtain when he explains his ESPN backdrop (47:05-1:11:45). Pat and AJ chat about the repercussions of no MLB season, whether or not they buy the report that Jadeveon Clowney turned down a lucrative offer from the Browns, and everything else happening around the world of sports (21:22-1:49:03). To close out the show, Super Bowl Champion with the Green Bay Packers, 2012's receiving TD's leader in the NFL, and friend of the program, James Jones joins the show. Pat and James chat about why he thinks Aaron Rodgers is going to win the MVP this year, his thoughts on the Packers' draft, why he thinks Mike McCarthy is going to be successful in Dallas, his thoughts on the Dak Prescott situation, and why Derek Carr is a special QB that doesn't get the recognition that he deserves (1:52:12-2:03:20). Don't forget to send in the hashtag #ThisIsWhereImAtPat with a picture of where you're listening to the show for the chance to win some free merch. Have the greatest weekend of all-time. Come and laugh with us, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Hey, Val, take it easy on the bowl, huh? Okay, geez. Joining us now, a man who has joined our show, boxing legend. He's here for UniteForOurFight.org, which is an incredible campaign raising money and attention for youth education and emotional support. He's the only four-time champion in the history of boxing. Ladies and gentlemen, Evander Holyfield. Yeah! Evander!

Woo! How do you feel about it I look good there good Evander I have a question for you look incredible as well we've seen some videos on the internet surfacing of you being in great shape you've come out and you said hey I'm at 215 which is my fighting weight and everything of that nature uh did you and tyson have a conversation a few months ago and say hey let's get back in shape and give this thing a run again or is it just a coincidence that you two are in incredible shape in your mid-50s at about the same time well i'm coincident because the fact of the matter i always stay in shape oh i like that my mama told me she said hey look if you don't if you

if you don't if you don't make the mistakes then you don't have to fix that oh you know so i pretty much you know pretty much it's the same type of things i try to uh tell the kids you know take care of yourself while you're young you're like this you'll be all right when you get over i haven't done that evander to be honest i have beaten the hell out of my body with different drugs and eating habits but seeing you in the shape that you're in in the video of you punching and seeing tyson and now roy jones jr i guess is getting back in the shape it makes me inspired to get after and go for it how long have you been boxing? Have you continued boxing routines throughout this entire time for the last 20 years? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, what I mean is it's a part of exercise. I do I shout about

too loud. And, you know, move around and all that. When you do that, then you don't you don't stiffen up and all that everything's everything works okay so tyson has come out and said he wants some exhibition fights anderson silva now has come out and said that he wouldn't mind fighting conor mcgregor you're coming out and saying i'll do some exhibition fights roy jones jr is coming out and saying he'll do some exhibition fights what is it about this time is it because you're feeling like you're in good shape you're seeing other people potentially get back in the game what is it about the time period now where you're seeing a lot of legends come back and say hey i think i can give it a go a couple

times if i had to well i was i was doing that anyway so somebody somebody told me and said look hey man why don't you do a little free exhibition and because a lot of people have seen you, and a lot of countries I didn't go to, and said, you can make a lot of money. You just go and do an exhibition and showing people at your age, you can still do it. I'll be 58 in October. But I can shadow box real well. I don't know if I can box real well. I talked to Matt Serra yesterday on UFC Unfiltered, which is a podcast the UFC has he and Jim Norton doing.

And I was talking to him about how seeing you and seeing Tyson work out Tyson work out it's like the bags look good the shadow boxing looks good how big of a difference is it from a shadow box and having the technique to having to react and having to get hit in the face and everything like that do you think it's a big difference big difference that you know I'm because you know what you know I'm not just like anybody mimicking what a person do but you know what? You know, that's just like anybody mimicking what a person do. But, you know, in boxing, you know two things. Either you're going to hit this guy or you're going to move. And whichever one you're on, you're going to get hit. So, you know, that's a whole big part of the game.

You know, if I don't move quick enough, I get hit. If I don't hit that guy, I get hit. So, you know, it's an art to it that even when you're facing somebody, you got to know who got the longer arm, who hit the hardest, what shot that you can take that you don't want to take. And, you know, so Tyson, that type of person who who who who love to hit you to the body and they slip the uppercut off like that so those two is two biggest devastating punches that he knocked people out with okay so whenever you see tyson doing these

things because every once in a while in the last like year or so since he's gotten really back into shape videos will pop up of him either teaching fighters like a little sidestep hit thing like that and me as a amateur or as a fan i'm like damn he looks like he's still throwing refrigerators and that type of thing whenever you watch his workout videos or something of that nature do you think like hey if i was to get in that ring again i would be able to beat him for a third time now at this point do you think that whenever you watch those things or is it it like, hey, I have no idea how he'll react. I have no idea how I'll react when we're actually getting hit in the face.

Well, you know, see, the art of the game, the art of the game, you know, the bag don't punch back. You ain't never seen a bag knock nobody out. But you're working on techniques, but that's the whole big thing of working on technique.

And you do these things while people are not watching. But you're doing that because instinctively you do this enough, when you're bopped, you're moving, and you'll be able to hit this guy with that if the guy missed you. But he got to miss you before you get into that short range. And so, you know, tyson that's where he got shorter arms than the joy to all the heavyweight so he had to either get you get you get in or get you the bag back so so he kind of like that cobra if you bat back even though he's short he he make

up the distance quick. He's very quick. So he get there. And so when people lean back, they lean right into his shot. Everybody want him. How did the guy with the lip in the arm catch him? Because he very good if you go backwards. Okay, so you have come out and said, I'm not going to challenge Mike Tyson.

And I believe your quotes were, if I came out and challenged Mike Tyson, I've already beat him twice. People would be like, well, you're challenging somebody you already beat. Which, by the way, in of itself was already a challenge, basically, the way you worded that. But what are you thinking about who these exhibition fights could potentially be about? And when are these potentially going to take place?

Well, the thing is, you know, they got you know, they got governor on the state when things open up. All I know, things ain't open up now. So ain't no sense in saying what you're going to do because you don't know when it's going to open up. And, you know, you know, I have people who have called us and said, well, we'll be open up at a certain time, but all these places out of the country. And so, you know, they tend to have it together a little bit more than what we have it together. We don't know what we're going to do right now. But a lot of other countries already know what they're going to do and what time they're going to be open. Who would you be fighting over there?

Would it be a shadowboxing exhibition? Or would you actually be fighting people at 57 turning 58 in October? I believe you just said who would you wait? Yeah, I'm somebody that's not gonna be that young I ain't I don't mention a man team and 20 and Twitter to Like somebody like reddit boat. I talked to somebody that Somebody that that you know that that people already know and can fight and all this we're doing an exhibition you know this is not a knockout drag thing you like to i i don't want to get into that what is an exhibition fight what does that look like is there different rules obviously than if it was a knockdown dragon what would an exhibition look like exhibition is somebody exhibition is like a three round a three round and this is you know you get head gears and you

you make the rules to what it's gonna be going to go two minutes round, then we go two minutes round. It's an exhibition. Ain't nobody, don't nobody win enough. Oh, so you, so it's just like, hey, we're getting in here to display our skills at this. People who maybe never got a chance to see a Vander Holyfield or a Riddick Bowe fight before they get a chance to see them live. For instance, I was too young

whenever you were just cleaning up. 28 and 0 or something like that at one point. I was too young whenever you were just cleaning up 28 and 0 or something like that it's one point i was too i was too young for that i remember the fights with tyson because of the legacies that kind of have built out from that but i think that is a good marketing uh ploy but not ploy but a marketing stunt no not a stunt either like a marketing angle though it's like i never got a chance to see evander holyfield in a fight a live fight that is a good idea the the interesting thing is there's no winner that that how does that how does that even work you just both say yeah we did it the thing is the thing is is for people to be that

be at that age and be able to even perform a little bit it's showing that this is the reason what that's a whole big point uh for the foundation is telling the young people if you start young taking care of yourself you don't wait till you get older start taking care you said you start young you you get the good habits where you you don't have to put nothing down and so this is you know that i wouldn't be who i am as my mama would my mother wouldn't continue to tell me, say, look, pay attention. Pay attention.

Stop all that stuff. Because my mama used to tell me, I care what type of man you're going to be, more so than a kid. So, you know, after 16 years old, they want to throw you in jail. Then you're a grown man. And so your whole life may be in jail if you get in trouble early. And because once you get once you get once you get 16 they throw you in prison unite for our fight is taking care of

underprivileged youth uh both financially education wise and support emotionally and physically how long have you been doing that evander how long have you been tied into that well you know i've been tied in ever since 1990 in 1990 i became the heavyweight champ of the world once i became the heavyweight champion of the world i knew that i never would have been who i am if it wasn't for the boys boys and girls club because that's where my say hey the woods i lived in the ghetto but i was at the boys club all the time, seven days, about six days a week. And so this allowed me to get, you know, I had my behaviors was different because I'm around different people. Somehow, if you round just people in your neighborhood, people want to be like the same people they round.

But since I was in, I was at the boys club, they had rules and regulations to have to follow. And so I didn't get into trouble that people who was just standing together around people who did bad stuff. I went around people who did a lot of bad things. Giving back whenever you get to the top of your profession is incredible. So UniteForOurFight.org is an incredible operation. I'm happy you're going to potentially put together a series of exhibition fights to raise money and attention for that. That's good news.

Let's talk, though, about a massive moment that has to be talked about. And I'm sure you've talked about it probably 7,000 times in your life, and I'm sure you do not want to talk about it, but it's still getting memed on the internet at the current time when tyson bit your ear off on live pay-per-view in front of millions and millions of people it immediately became something that nobody truly understood how is the ear now and when that happened did you have any concept of like i cannot is that man eating my ear like is that what the initial thought was in your head whenever you started feeling something there well i wouldn't know when he didn't know my first thought was to bite him back

i was gonna fight it back i was gonna bite it back if if if my my corner guy my corner guy back if if if my my corner guy my corner guy at that time got named tim hallmark now his prophet had told us now prophet had told us he said something bad gonna happen in this fight because this is the only way this guy can win and i said and he said he said it gonna happen in your face area he said you know and i just thought maybe'd get hit with an elbow, a hip butt. Because these are things that happen, you know. Never, ever in my life thought I would ever get bit. And like that, so when he bit me on the ear, I jumped up. And, man, I was so mad.

First thing, like I told Tyson, I told him this stuff. I said, you know what big old cheats you got? I said, I'm going to bite you right there. I don't want everybody to know. In our neighborhoods and stuff, anybody do anything to you, you got to do it worse. That's what I'm going to do

because that's the instinct that came in me. But when this prophet told us this, Duke up that's the instinct that came in but when I was taught when I went when his proper told us this I told I told my corner guy on Tim Hallmark I said like remind me if this happened you know like and I was hoping that it didn't happen and but I remember I remember he kept hollering out when I'm out and I was thinking of the plan because I was like, now I see Tyson looking at me and so I realized

if you act like you're scared, then people think they got you. But I was only going to act that way where he can get close to me where I can grab him because I was going to trip him up and bite him. But my corner guy kept shouting.

He just kept, don't do it. Don't eat. He banned it. Keep your mind on the Lord. So he kept saying that over and over and over, and I was getting mad with him because he kept saying that. I wanted to do what I wanted to do. But because he kept saying that, then all of a sudden,

my mind thought about what my grandmama would tell me. My grandmama used to always tell me, she said, revenge is the Lord's. Now, they always catch the second person. They never say nothing about the first person, but the person who will do it second. I remember the time when I used to get all these whooping. They would always catch me chasing behind somebody. I was the second person because somebody always do something to me. And every time I try to get them, I get caught.

And so my brother-in-law used to tell me, he said, all right, now, revenge is the Lord. You sitting in there with your ear missing and bleeding and thinking about biting him in his cheek and then your corner person being like, hey, hey, and you thinking of your grandma. In the middle of a fight with Mike Tyson, you thinking of your grandma saying, hey, the retaliator is going to get here. You're like, all right, I guess I just, I want it. All right, all right, okay.

All right, all right. And then you end up getting a win. What an incredible story of discipline right there i mean because everything in you i'd assume wanted to retaliate and get revenge you being able to hold off you get the win obviously they caught the first guy by the way it was telling evidence by tyson that he did do something there uh and i can't wait to see your exhibition fights evander i can't thank you enough for joining us. Well, thank you. Hey, do you guys hate Foreman for that grill?

No. You know what? You know, if you really think about it, he got that after he lost that fight against me. And after that fight, after that fight, after that fight, he was so nice about the situation. He looked at me and said, you wanted to fight, man. He said, wow.

Because I was wondering why they would even let me fight George because he was older. And my manager at the time said, you know why they want you to fight George? Because they believe George is going to knock you out. I said, man, this guy old, which he was 42, and I was 29. He said, Evander, they would not be giving you $21 million for nothing. They know that people don't give money away. Because, you know, at that time, I wanted to fight Mike Tyson because everybody was telling me,

you're not a champion. You ain't beat Mike Tyson. And so, you know what? I said, I want to fight him. But they were giving me $30 million to fight.. But they were giving me $30 million to fight. They were going to give me $30 million to fight Tyson, but they were going to give me $20 to fight Foreman. And I told him, I said, yeah, I want to fight Tyson.

He said, no, we need $50 million. We need both of these fighters. I'm the manager, and I just wanted to tell you what it is. They only pay you $20 because they think if he hits you one time, you're gone. I said, okay, all right. It's got to sound better than $30. I went that route. Well, great business, man.

I wish they would have had the Holyfield grill because the thing was immaculate good for George good for you excited to see you get back in there and I hope somebody pays you another 30 million to fight Mike Tyson again because I think the whole world will want to see it or Riddick Bowe or Roy Jones Jr. ladies and gentlemen boxing legend the only four time champ

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Hello! Welcome to McAfee and Hawk Sports Talk. I am Patrick McAfee. Sitting to my left is the handsome former Super Bowl champion linebacker for the Green Bay Packers and the Ohio State where he was a national champion. Ladies and gentlemen, his jawline looks like

a shovel. His eyes are blue steel. A.J. Hawk! Hawk, Hawk, Hawk, Hawk, Hawk. Let's go, A.J. shovel his eyes are blue steel aj what'd you print out pat uh it's an ad read but we should wait until we have a new ad by the way it's a big hey we got a new ad and i think a lot of our listeners are going to enjoy this but i gotta wait until there's some more people in in the in the show you know what i mean i gotta wait till still filing in we got jeff passin joining us in about 23 minutes aj he's an mlb insider on espn he is awesome to talk to also i didn't know much about him thought he was a big old fucking nerd on television and then he came on our show he was amazing baseball is in an interesting spot right now aj yes they are i mean the players seem to be trying to take some control back of the

situation like they're not just gonna bow down and do whatever the owners tell them to do so i think it's going to be an interesting next what three four or five days to see how they get this worked out i don't think there's going to be an mlb season and if there is it's not going to be with the major league players they're going to potentially see guys like us playing i honestly believe that hey do one of these again this is going to be a MLB season. And if there is, it's not going to be with the major league players. They're going to potentially see guys like us playing. I honestly believe that. Hey, do one of these again. This is going to be a magic trick for people watching at home.

Woo! Oh, wait, one more. Ooh! Oh! Might need one more. Do a John Cena. You can't see me. You can't see me.

You can't see me. I'm okay. I don't need to do that. But yeah, why did my camera turn yellow? Are you using a webcam, right? Yeah. After this, we'll fix that. Oh, Zito Production.

He said he got you. Happens to me all the time. Who are you webcamming with? Twitch. I thought you were on a fans only thing. Basically, Zito's showing a couple balls out there, getting some bits out there. He can make some money, right, can't he?

Oh, he's making money? Oh, yeah, the bits come rolling in whenever Zito gets a headshot on the Shot Gang and all that stuff. But on his fans-only, I believe he is also making some money, especially with the weight that he's losing. Right now, you can find him at fansonly.com forward slash Viva La Zito. Yep, it works. It works, right?

Oh, yeah. What do they have to do? People that are on the, is it fans only or only fans? People pay money to watch you do what? Take off your clothes. It matters. Get creative. Use your imagination.

I didn't know this was happening until the boys explained to me that all these strippers, basically, that are in a problem because of the pandemic because, you know, you can't really go to a strip club right now. They've taken the pole to the house, and then they go on this fans only, and then people are just shelling out money, and then they have a conversation. Nice little hustle on there.

I mean, it feels like it's a pretty good move. And I told Zito, hey, maybe get the big maybe get the big bucks over fans only show them some titties over there show some zito boobies over there maybe get the thing popping off be an entrepreneur for yourself i'll pop a titty yeah yeah i'll pop a titty please do zito zito is there any way for you to research quickly during the show like what kind of money people can make on that on that? I only know this because former WWE diva Sunny is in the news because

she has a porn site. She said she made $90,000 in five weeks. Average income? What is she doing on the site? Does she have to engage with another individual? She's inhaling porn. That's what she's doing. I didn't know.

Average income From an average person $1,500 To $8,000 per month Zeta you'd be up in that $8,000 Oh for sure You know that Zeta You'd be up there

What an interesting world We're living in though Huh No stripper poles available No lap dance available I'll take this thing online You just send me some money And then buy me some gifts

And this is going to be The entire purpose of this app What a wild time to be alive With no lap dance available, I'll take this thing online. You just send me some money and then buy me some gifts. And this is going to be the entire purpose of this app. What a wild time to be alive. Oh, no. What a wild time. I think he just quit the job. He's going on a fans only. That's amazing.

I think he's mad because it was yellow. Yeah. You know what I mean? You know what it is? It's those webcams, the setting comes up, it's automatic, and the bookshelf behind that's real, and then him, it's trying to figure out what a white balance. He probably sits down late, by the way, so they probably white balance on the books.

Then he sits down all of a sudden. A lot of contrasting colors on that real bookshelf. Yeah, it's a real bookshelf, too. What's going on, AJ? Good to see you again, man. I couldn't hear it. Everything went mute on me for some reason we were telling you we were talking about how awesome the bookcase is behind

you and zito thinks that that's potentially the white balancing issue that you're currently having is that the webcam webcam is white balancing off the real bookshelf you have behind you and your face is just kind of one of the books they think that that makes sense i guess it could happen but why would it happen now? And I've had this bookcase up for... I'm going to be honest with you. Those webcams have a mind of their own, and sometimes it literally just puts an automatic setting on.

It's so dumb. Am I being hacked currently? Well, maybe. People want to see them biddies, bro. People want to see them biddies. Let's talk about the NBA. They have come out with an entire proposal or roadmap. They'll be down in Orlando because that's the home of Disney, which is one of their biggest sponsors, ABC. Let's talk about the NBA. They have come out with an entire proposal or roadmap.

They'll be down in Orlando because that's the home of Disney, which is one of their biggest sponsors, ABC, ESPN. It'll be a 16-team tournament, bracket style, 1 through 16 seating, no Eastern, no Western conferences through it. But the four teams at the bottom of the Western Conference will be competing for the 16th seed, which I like. Get a chance to see Zion. Get a chance to see Zion. Get a chance to see some other young superstars. I think this is going to be must-watch television, and I like this move by the NBA.

It had come out that they were potentially thinking about finishing their regular season, and I was like, hey, nobody gives a fuck about the regular season anymore. Anything that happened before the quarantine, nobody even remembers. You know how long ago that was? That might have only been two and a half months, but it has felt like potentially two and a half years at this point this tournament the COVID championship the quarantine champion of the NBA just like the COVID cup in the NHL I like what the NBA is doing and we get a chance to see what how Zion has handled the quarantine he potentially could have transformed his body in the last two and a half, three months

if he really wanted to. He could have transformed his body. And what if he's just at this level of specimen where he carries the Pelicans from the play-in games to the 16 seed all the way through to number, all the way through the win. What if Zion wins? What if Zion wins a world championship

in his first year in the NBA when he puts the team on his back, though, coming out of a quarantine with a revenge body because people were body shaming him before the quarantine started? Wow. So would you feel if you were a player and you had no championships and your one championship came during the COVID Cup, say you're in the NHL or NBA,

would you feel slighted that you won a championship and you didn't get to do the victory parade? You didn't have your home crowd there like would you be upset when Heinz Ward won dancing with the stars in Pittsburgh they gave him a parade you can set up a parade anytime hey you remember when we won that fucking championship during a quarantine let's do a parade a year from now do you ever see when the OGs come back and they're honoring them at the game 10-year anniversary of the Super Bowl champion. 20-year anniversary. They're celebrated. It's like a spectacle the whole weekend.

We can do the parade later. We can do the parade. Hey, we'll all party this thing together. New Orleans, Don Erica Zion came out of quarantine ready to go. He's the champion of COVID-19 NBA finals. Let's do this parade later. We'll pop it off. Hey, don't worry about it.

Who cares? We're the fucking champs. Go win it. Yeah, I don't think you'd feel slighted. And by the way, I think in the NHL and the NBA, if you win this one, you should be more proud, I think, than ever because you were able to handle the biggest adversity that has ever slapped the leagues right in the face.

Plus, if you have the parade right after you're officially allowed to have parades, so it's a celebration for the championship and a celebration for being allowed to have parades again. That's going to be an electric situation. If I'm not even a fan of the team, if I know we're having a parade in here, I'm probably going to go just celebrate the fact that, just like you said, we're even having a parade. Oh, shit. We're celebrating who?

Also the Pelicans? Okay. Okay. It might be the best parade of all time, AJ. I guess, but when does that parade happen? Whenever. First off, those players are going to, a lot of the players are gonna be on other teams you know a year the team never looks the same basketball is a little different than football obviously in hockey but with not as many players to move around i don't know i mean yeah of course you want to win i was

talking to somebody yesterday he was very excited for the fact that when hockey comes back when basketball comes back possibly baseball which you don't think is going the fact that when hockey comes back, when basketball comes back, possibly baseball, which you don't think is going to happen, that when all of this kind of hits, it'll be a fun kind of tournament to watch, like a March Madness type thing with multiple sports. I think that's the positive coming out of it. Pierre Maguire told us that they don't know where the hub cities are going to

be for the NHL for this whole thing, but they want to have three games a day at each city. So that's six nhl games happening every single day with this basketball thing if it's a best of five series in the bracket or best of seven or whatever it is i assume there's going to be multiple games in a day there too so i the only thing i'm concerned about the only thing i am genuinely concerned about maybe too much like maybe too much good excuse me too much good what if sydney crosby's getting loose on the ice over there in vegas because he's got the dangles because all quarantine all he was doing

was flipping shit with his stick and then all of a sudden zion's taking on somebody to get in again at the same time what do i do aj that is all i'm worried about but aside from that if we can figure out how to watch all of these sports that are about to happen, we are about to catch a machine of awesome to us on the other side of this, which we did predict whenever we went into this quarantine. Hey, on the other side of this thing, with all this shit getting delayed, it is going to be a magical time. I'm just worried that my eyeballs aren't going to be able to digest all the greatness, and that could be a problem, and we should start preparing ourselves accordingly.

Do you guys think if the ratings and stuff are great for the NHL playing games during the day and the NBA playing games during the day, that when everything's back to normal, they'll stay with that format or they'll do the nightly games? AJ, this is a question I have for you. When the World Cup is on, people at work just have it playing on their computer.

People that don't even like soccer, it's just something to do. Whenever the WWE does these pay-per-views in Saudi Arabia, people just have it on because there's something going on. Whenever March Madness happens, now granted people are trying to get out of work, but they have it on even if they're not. Why don't more sports try to take advantage?

And this goes against everything you've probably ever been taught about primetime and when's the right time to be on. But I think with the way the world consumes content now i think the weekday during the day is not that terrible of a time if it's a c or a b or c game just toss that thing on there you might end up with more ratings than you could ever imagine of course i mean it's especially coming off the whole copit thing whenever maybe the first month of action, we'll just get astronomical ratings. I just wonder how long they can sustain.

And if you're hockey, you want to get as much as you can. You want to finish before football starts, obviously, don't they? Like when, with the proposed hockey plan, when does the Stanley Cup, when does that happen? So they're thinking end of July, early August, from what I've been told. And then they want to start. Wait, just before they start it? Yeah.

Mid-July is what everybody's thinking it's going to be, but they want to start the next season and have a full season in november right is that right yeah like uh november december january somewhere in that time so this shit they have to get the covet cup done and then they have to get the next season started by november december because they said pierre mcguire said we have to have a full 2021 season have to do it so they have to get it all in there. The golf tournaments are obviously tossed in there. So we got football. We got NBA.

We got NHL. We got golf tournaments happening. Derby. AFL. Kentucky Derby. We got the AFL. Aussie Rules football happening in the early, early mornings. Korean baseball.

No, it's over. It's over. We're fucking done with Korean football. Wait, is it done? No, we're just kind of done with it. Passed. I mean, I enjoyed it. I think the dino's still cool. I appreciate everything that they've done in trying to provide highlights.

But, you know, it just got to a point where we couldn't fucking do it anymore. So aside from that, MLB's not going to happen either, except for maybe replacement players or maybe a sideshow circus where the biggest stars just run out of stadiums and go do home run derbies while they're eating all the steroids that's something they could potentially do i don't think they're gonna negotiate a deal we'll talk to jeff passanat in 12 minutes but there's going to be a lot going on here this is going to become something that is very very interesting and it all has to get done in such a short time period and uh that's why i think the

logistics of this whole thing the real meat and potatoes behind the scheduling and all this stuff, that is the stuff that all still has to be worked out. And I think those conversations are going to be long ones. I think those are going to be tough to figure out. So, like, hockey goes back. Aren't players allowed to go back to facilities next week, I think, in small groups? Skates on ice. Skates on ice. But they're going to have, like, a six-week training camp, it seems like, if we're not starting until the end of july for them they have to though i think that was a big part of it because remember

gary bettman said players safety and health is paramount and cardiovascularly they're not going to be ready to get back on the ice aj they need i understand that most of them have not been able to skate right now because you can't get into a rink and skate during covid it's not like basketball where you can put a hoop up in your driveway and still work on your game. So it's different in that sense. But they don't need six weeks to get in shape. I need probably six months at this point. I'm not harming.

What are you talking about? You explained your pool workout sounded very grueling, and you've been handling that fine. That's what I'm saying. I've been going harder than I've gone in probably, what, over a decade, I'd assume, in beating the hell out of my body at the moment. And I think I'm probably good three, four months away from doing anything truly stressful. Let's assume the hockey players are in much better shape than me,

maybe not Phil Kessel and the boys, but there's Carly's. I think it is going to have to take a little bit to get the legs back because I feel like hockey is a sport where if you're not fully good, the chance of injury has to be rather high. Soft tissue injuries? Oh, you're fucking knee just got hurt. And it may not take a full six weeks, but it's better to say that, okay, give ourselves more time.

Then they can always move it up. It always sucks when you have to move it back. Then you just look back. They won't be able to move anything, by the way. Once they get the date set, they have so many other shit they've got to figure out that that date is going to be set. That's like the goal. That's the landmark. That's how the goal. That's the landmark.

That's how everything goes. You agree with that? Yeah. Sure. But I saw Columbus is on the short list of possible destinations for one of the hub cities. Columbus is probably going to get it, too. We started doing the math. Pittsburgh, which obviously is hockey time, which everybody hopes Pittsburgh gets it so we can display the bridge City and display the Iron City and display the

Steel City and Hockey Town in beautiful fashion but I'm not sure the setup is what they're going to be looking for Columbus's arena is right across the street from their practice facility right it's it's connected yeah so that seems like that's probably gonna be is there enough hotels and shit in Columbus Ohio 105,000 people come for Ohio state games i'd assume that they can house a lot of people yeah and i i think for sure because the arnold classic is here every year i think like 400 000 people come in for that something crazy so i would imagine that they can handle it in the hotels would be more than happy to accommodate are we wearing hazmat suits down to the down to the rink every single day you and me over there in col in Columbus we might have to

can we work out a press pass you know there will be some press at these games I don't think there is some they will allow UFC has a couple they have some press there you don't even have to travel you guys are easily getting in UFC though is such a smaller amount of people that's what I'm saying what if hockey says okay

we're going to have 10 press passes for this game, and they're going to be scattered throughout the arena? Oh, so I get my own section? Yeah. We each get our own box. You know what I've been saying, AJ? And I think everybody in this room, at least, and maybe...

What's that? A loge? Yeah, I don't know. A lounge, I think, is what he's saying. I don't know. I know some guys that work at the arena, A loge? Yeah, I don't know. A lounge, I think is what he's saying. I don't know. I know some guys that work at the arena and they say, oh, I sell loges. I'm like, all right, is that a suite? Is that a box? Is that like a special seat where you get food delivered?

Like what is it? And I still haven't figured it out. I've seen that. I thought it was loges. Like a lodge? Like a house? Is there a house? They call it a loge.

Oh, it's like a chaise, not a chaise. Like a loge. Target. Target. Private box or enclosure in a theater. Potato a loge. Target. Private box or enclosure in a theater. Do you still laugh at people when they like Lincoln? If someone tells you they're going to Target, do you laugh? Oh, that's so funny.

Well, if it's a 30-year-old lady on a motorized wheelchair, and she's having a talk about it, I think it's very funny. Oh, my God. Do you know what we're speaking about right now? No. No, no chance. Well, I'm not going to talk about it. Jennifer ate a fire. A fire fucking, what is that called?

A fire extinguisher. A fire. She ate a fire extinguisher. Jennifer, she's only 30, by the way. Everybody thought she was potentially an elderly lady. She's got a knife. She had a long night in Minneapolis in front of her favorite Target last night. lady she's got a knife she had a long night in minneapolis in front of her favorite target last night i just would like that jennifer had a long night and jennifer by the way despicable human i just if i had to guess but

she had a long night wait did this come was this part of like the rioting and stuff that's going on yeah so there was a looting happening in minneapolis because people rightfully so very now i don't think looting and rioting is the right move but people are very pissed off about the passing of George Floyd in the fashion and then the in the way that it happened obviously murdered the guy that the cop that did it by the way the asshole that looks at the camera and is on he's gotten written up a dozen times for police misconduct this guy so it's not like this is the first time that this guy has done things that are just asinine. So I hope they all go to jail.

Do it. It's absolutely terrible. But the riots happen. Looting happens. It looks like a war zone over there because people are obviously pissed. And Jennifer, who is on a motorized wheelchair, saw her target getting looted. And she rolled her ass down there and i'll tell you what she had a knife she was trying to protect this house with a knife at

the target and she was rolling around trying to stab people and uh uh jennifer is only 30 by the way she's not and she got an entire fire extinguisher to her face while she was sitting down on this it was it was for the top five trending topics when i woke up this morning on twitter for she's 30 was one uh uh jennifer was another one she can walk was another trend because there's another video of jennifer later in the night getting out of her wheelchair going up trying to smack somebody and then get back in her wheelchair and wait hold on a second though what she was just did she feel like a special connection to this target that she was protecting it i would assume some white women feel a very special connection to their target and whenever that thing starts getting attacked

she rolled her ass down there but the video of her getting fire it's bro it is i've seen fire extinguishers happening like wwe and i'm never sure if there are actual fire extinguishers or gimmick fire extinguishers or whatever but this one in real life in the wild to a lady named jennifer who had a knife in her hand and was trying to stab people uh it was she was riding around like one of them knights like with the knife by the way like you know how they're on horses yeah she's like riding around like like this it was. How does she think that's going to end? I mean, she's one person going against the whole story. I think Jennifer probably has numerous mental issues, if I had to guess.

And last night probably added a few on there. But boy, she was the talk of the internet. That's a great, like, instead of hitting somebody and getting sued and possibly going to jail, if I spray him with a fire extinguisher, can I get in you should he unloaded i think the entire thing by the way and there was a fires around that he could have chose to use that but he said the real danger to society at this particular moment it's not the fire it's this it's jennifer on her mother's wheelchair um i was to say something. It was awesome.

Vigilante justice. The internet, though, is undefeated. The internet is undefeated. If you get bored after this show, obviously, go onto the Twitter and just search Jennifer and just have yourself. Scroll. Probably 15, 20, 30 scrolls of just like savagery on the internet. Jennifer's an idiot, so she would never choose to do the right thing trying to transition that's true no that's not we should talk about something else this is their first time being an ad that should not i don't think that's the right move but yeah it yeah, it's worth a watch.

Columbus, though, being a host city, we should try to get in there. We should try to get a press pass. If I get a chance to sit in there, and what I've been saying this entire time, if they're giving out 10 press passes or whatever it is per area, what AJ, myself, and all the boys here have been saying is, Gary Bettman, best commissioner to ever commission a sport. Yeah, of course. His delivery in that press conference 430 the other day about the layout

was so beautifully done, and he's so handsome, and he's just a guy that seems so cool. Smart. Just smart guy. Are you putting him above our commissioner, Roger Goodell? Well, for the current moment, because it seems as if we can get immediate benefit from this whole thing. And that is something we should definitely think about.

Gary Bettman's the best, man. He's the absolute best. He is so good. Good. At his job. Yeah. We would love a press pass or eight. He's a problem solver.

That's what they say. We're just promoting the sport. I don't know why we wouldn't be let in. Probably because there's media members that have followed that sport since whenever they had zero fans. Now they have a little bit more than zero fans. What would we report on? What would be our beat?

How are we going to talk about what happened? My big thing would be Sidney Crosby being the greatest hockey player to ever put on skates. Is he the greatest ever? Yeah. But when you look at the numbers, I understand the game evolves, and I don't know enough about hockey. The amount of points Gretzky scored, no one's ever going to catch that,

are they? Yeah, but he was playing. He had a goon on his side, so there was nobody really. There's no goons now, though. I watched Sidney. Yeah, you know what? That's not good. That's not good that's not good no i'm i feel i i watched a playoff game and i watched sydney crossey get

harassed the whole game and i was like wait why doesn't pittsburgh have somebody kill this dude well you can't they never did it the rules the rules say you can't basically anymore they outlawed it and then gretzky and mario and back in the day they had like seven yards around them to skate because everybody was scared about losing their fucking jaw from the goon if they touched him. Sidney has been getting booed out of arenas, getting slashed on his wrist, doing everything he's had his entire career. And what has he done? He's missed a couple games because he gets banged up because he's not scared to get in there and rough it up a little bit.

He missed a year for a concussion, didn't he? Well, we don't know if that was a concussion or a back injury. Nobody really knows. Why would you fake it? Why would you not want to admit to a back injury? Because the NHL lies about everything. Oh, you think the NHL did? You don't think it was Sidney?

Yeah, the NHL says upper body injury, lower body injury. That's it. Mike McCarthy, he's got an upper body. All right, we've got to pivot to baseball talk. Jeff Passan is going to join us here on the other side. As soon as you – we've got to hang up on you to FaceTime with him. But I'm pumped for this baseball talk here. Jeff Passan knows his stuff.

Oh, yeah. And the Scherzer tweet that basically said, there's no reason for us to renegotiate with this MLB team. This current proposal is a bunch of malarkey. And then you got Blake Snell, obviously. We talked to him about that. Bryce Harper said, I agree with them. Trevor Bauer has come out and said that there's union.

Now there's agents trying to push their own agenda. I mean, there is so much drama around this MLB, MLBPA thing about whether or not they're going to come back. I can't wait to learn all about it with our friend Jeff Passan here. Good guy, by the way. Not a nerd, as he portrays on the television. There's no chance that the MLB budges on the money, right? If the money doesn't change, there's no way they can make it happen.

Well, they said that if they budge on the money, then they'll end up losing more money than if they were to play on a lower pay scale. It seems like there's no way a deal is going to be done. It just feels as if there's no way a deal is going to be done. Are we calling Jeff back? Yeah, he did not answer right there. We have AJ on, though, so let me try again. Yeah, I'm here to pass this.

Son of a bitch, Jeff Pattinson. We might have to hang up on you again, AJ. Sorry about that. Oh, you don't deserve that, AJ. Sorry, AJ. Sorry. Hey, we're calling you. Hey, we're...

He just called us, like, before that, so, like... We're calling you. Oh, phone tag. He is there. Yeah, but the thing is, know yeah now we wait now we wait maybe the yeah but if i read that going into him disney potentially pissed off you know because our new sponsor is canna dips cbd pouches for the replacement for tobacco the boys got a chance to try this the last couple of days pouches are great tobacco replacements they feel

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You don't even need a spitter because you can just swallow it. See that? Don't be a quitter either. Be a swallower. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now espn mlb insider he's not a nerd as you would think if you were just to see him on television he's an incredibly insightful man with all the baseball news that we could possibly need ladies and gentlemen jeff pass I'm a total nerd.

I mean, you're not, though. On TV, whenever you see you as a person. Wait, wait, wait. Hold on a sec. What the hell is going on, Hawk? You're smoking a cigar in the middle. You are living your best life right now. This is unbelievably impressive.

I need to do this on ESPN. Rip out a Montecristo. Big one. You should one time. Just is unbelievably impressive. I need to do this on ESPN. Rip out a Montecristo. Big one. You should one time. Just see what happens. Don't give them any heads up. Just do it. I see you on TV all day, especially now with what's going on in baseball. I think you should do it next time you do a little hit.

Here's the question. Do you think cigars are going to make a comeback now because Michael Jordan made them look so amazingly cool in the last dance. They have to. And not only Michael Jordan, by the way, a lot of professional athletes that I've met, I did not know the cigar world was this big. And now you're seeing everybody that is the closet cigar smoker or a legendary cigar smoker, they're coming out. Cigars are about to make a big play. You know why? Because you get the

tobacco buzz without burning out your lungs. You still get a chance for cancer, but you're not going to kill your lungs. You know what I mean? That's a big deal. Jeff, let's get right into it. Like AJ said, you're on TV right now all day. Thank you for making time for us. I appreciate the hell out of you for this. All right.

I mean, it's the Pat McAfee show. How would I miss it? Well, this is McAfee and Hawk, but you're 100% right. Listen, I was just looking in the background. It the Pat McAfee show. How would I miss it? Well, this is McAfee and Hawk, but you're 100% right. Listen, I was just looking in the background. It said Pat McAfee and Hawk, Drew. Listen, it's an ongoing thing with your network and other networks that quote this show. AJ gets no credit, but he doesn't want it. He's a selfless guy.

Let's talk about selfless guys and maybe potentially perceived as selfish guys. It feels as if the NBA on the road to coming back in Orlando, they're going to do a 16-team tournament, seeding 1-16, no Eastern Conference, no West. The NHL, two hub cities, 24-team. And now everybody's like, what's going to happen with the MLB? I think the difference between the NBA and the NHL and the MLB is their season started already.

So they already made some money. They already generated some revenue. Now they have to figure out how to finish. The MLB didnB is their season started already. So they already made some money. They already generated some revenue. Now they have to figure out how to finish. The MLB didn't have their season start. They didn't generate any revenue from this year. So I think that is why the business is so off. But it feels like the players are nowhere near saying yes to a deal with the MLB. And we don't have much time, right?

There's not a lot of time if you want to get back to spring training on June 10th. And if you want to have a season start on the 4th of July. But the players are entrenched here right now. They're pissed. They are pissed at the offer that Major League Baseball made a couple of days ago. And this was an offer that, you know, like you have to understand when you're dealing with a union, a lot of the players in this union, I think 65% in Major League Baseball make a million or fewer dollars. And so the appeal in this proposal from Major League Baseball was

supposed to be to those lower paid guys saying, hey, we're going to give you a majority of your prorated salary, you know, 90% if you're at the Major League minimum, like 82%, 83% if you're at a million bucks. Then you get down to someone like Mike Trout. And Mike Trout, who in a normal season would make $37.7 million, in a prorated season would make $19 million, was being offered $5.7 million. And that $5.7 million, million boys that is a lot of money we understand that but it's almost like Major League Baseball recognizes that there's a group of people who are going to hear 5.7 million dollars how dare he

turn that down well not recognizing the fact that Mike Trapp is one of one he's the best in the world at what he does he might be the best ever at what he does and if might be the best ever at what he does. And if he wants a fair cut of compensation for doing that, his fair shake for bringing what he brings to this game that he loves, I don't think anybody should be angry at him for that idea. All the players are trying to do is get what's theirs in this situation. I understand it looks gosh because we're in the middle of this unemployment crisis because COVID sucks because of all of these things.

But if the players are trying to get theirs and the owners are trying to get theirs, what's the difference between the two? Like seriously, what's the difference? Because the owners are businessmen, they suddenly get a pass on wanting to keep their money as opposed to players who also are every bit the same

amount of business. Come on, Jeff! Let's go, Jeff! By the way, I would love to say that you would be a businessman, Pat McAfee, if you were a baseball player, but you sucked. At baseball? Oh, no, Jeff. Jeff. I was batting from the wrong side of the plate, Jeff. I'm just saying. Did you watch the comedic sports documentary of the century,

Pat McAffee professional baseball player i i will admit i was going through like 15 seconds at a time and i was and i was a little i hold on a second why are you giving me that look you missed greatness in those 15 seconds there's setups and callbacks you're disrespecting the art you know what i mean i yeah i understand that i you know what the uh let's let's see the swing wow here's the thing i can't i broke the television last time there's a chance about them but i can buy oh aj what do you got for jeff jeff wealth of knowledge here jeff i love what you're saying too it makes a lot of sense yeah jeff you are a wealth of knowledge we appreciate you being on here but the players But the players seem like they have a unified front, at least publicly.

They seem like they're all kind of on the same page. What handful of players do you think have the most influence on the rest of them? I mean, Max Scherzer's voice is really loud and really strong, and it's for a couple of reasons. Number one, he's on the executive subcommittee. There are eight players who meet with the top union officials every day and talk about this. And, you know, Andrew Miller is a veteran who's on there. Chris Iannetta, a guy who's been around for a long time.

People have been involved in the union. But Scherzer is the star there. He's a guy who makes $35 million a year. He's a guy who just won a world championship. He's a guy who just won a world championship. He's a guy who's incredibly intelligent. And so when you have all three of those things combined and he comes out and says something like he said last night, it really illustrates the power of having that big voice. In the NBA, you see all the time the players who are speaking out the most about collective bargaining issues

chris paul lebron james superstars i think when you have somebody of that ilk who can take your point distill it down and spread it out to the masses you have a much better chance of it catching on than you do if they're just some random like middle relievers who are smart and talk about it. This was a problem with the NFLPA. The NFLPA never got their message out. The only message that came out was this is a bad deal. And then when the big players came out and spoke about it, they never really laid out until the NFL had already won the PR battle.

At that point, the NFL had already won the PR battle. And just like you said about the MLB and the players, about how the MLB guys are businessmen, so they're on their side. That always happens in every collective bargaining. Yeah. Like Pat, I would love to say that the PR battle is winnable. I don't think it is. I was talking with a friend yesterday and he said for the last 120 years, every 50-50 ball in sports, when it comes to labor relations relations has gone to the owners. It's a fact. It's a reality.

And the fact that unions have throughout this country been minimized as much as they have, that union busting tactics have worked all over the place, and that labor is for some reason looked down upon because of some flaws that there may have been. But listen, labor came into existence for a reason, and that was to protect the worker. And I understand that football player, basketball player, baseball player, they're not your average worker. They're not slaving away. They're not looking for better working conditions or for safety or for some of these things that people who work in meatpacking plants or other places that really need it want. But what they are looking for is for the collective of their power to get them what they desire. They recognize that 1,200 together are stronger than 1,200 individuals preaching the same thing.

Okay. So the reason why owners always win the PR battle is because they're before the players get there and they'll be there long after the players get there in the community's eyes. So that's kind of the way it always works. But I do believe the players should get their stories out a little bit more, especially in this woke culture that we're in. My question for you is, Max Scherzer comes out. Trevor Barr last night came out pitcher for the

reds he said that there's potentially some agents trying to get in there and push their narrative what do you know about that and that is not a guy i'd want to piss off it seems like he even added the guy directly afterwards because he found out he had a twitter handle he's like oh i'm sorry i didn't know if you were here or not since you are are, I want you to read this. I am tired of you pushing your agenda. What is Boris's agenda? And what is Trevor Bauer referring to here? Well, guess who's a Scott Boris client? It's Max Scherzer and half of the executive,

uh-huh, half of the executive board, executive subcommittees, Scott Boris clients as well. I mean, Scott Boris is a guy who, because of what he's done in the sport, wields an incredible amount of influence. If you go and look just this offseason alone, Garrett Cole, $324 million. Scott Boris. Anthony Rendon, $245 million.

Scott Boris. Steven Strasburg, $245 million. Scott Boris. Scott did quite well this year. Is that a million? He booked over a billion dollars in guarantees this offseason alone. And what's he making off that? 3%?

5%? What's baseball percentage for agents? 5%. So. Why is it 5%? What should it be? Well, I mean, NFL, isn't it three is max or three and a half? Yeah, three is the max.

Yeah, it's because you guys, maybe you're better businessmen than baseball players. No, we're not. Those are guaranteed contracts. I mean, we are not better businessmen. But that is interesting, 5%. That guy had quite an offseason, but now he's got big power, Bauer coming after his ass. And how do you think that is going to all play out do you think what trevor bauer is saying is like there's some guys in the league right now who are saying yeah let's play let's

be a distraction maybe he's a guy and boris and his agent's like hey listen money's money now we got to talk about the business side of this do you think that is what bauer is referring to you know it's unclear at this point what he's saying exactly i mean there there are certainly people behind the scenes who believe that scott boris wields too much influence with the union in that uh the what he wants to impress upon people which is stay you know stay the line uh we we can't give in all here, is maybe not the best path forward. Now, listen, I don't know what is going to get back to owners and how they're going to respond because the union is going to give a proposal.

It's not even a counterproposal. It's like they're going to essentially ignore what Major League Baseball offered on Tuesday. Like, they're going to say, it's like Scott Van Pelt said this last night, I have a million-dollar house. You offered me $200,000 for it. I'm not going to even act like this offer existed because it was so bad. And so they're going to go back to them.

They're going to propose more games. They're going to propose a full prorated salary. And we're going to see how the owners take it. And it's going to be really interesting to see how the owners take it because it could be one of two ways. You know that the best way to get after a bully is to punch them in the face. This is the players trying to punch billionaires in the face right now. And if you are someone in business who for the longest time has been told everything that you're doing is right because you're this rich because you've been this successful somebody coming back at you and saying not gonna happen maybe that's something that engenders respect it's also something that

could make them say forget this we're not getting anywhere with them we're not going to deal with this we're going to lose money if we play games this year let's just cancel the 2020 season which i i worry about that because i think over the long haul that is the absolute worst thing that can happen to baseball with the nba coming back with the nhl coming back with the nfl coming back college football coming back baseball needs to stake its claim to the summer months jeff i got a two-part question. First, I know the players want the owners to open up the books and see the financials.

Do you think that's a possibility? And if so, what are we going to see? And my second part of that question is, does ESPN allow you to pick out the fake books and fake album covers on your fake bookcase background? I'll answer the second one first um in fact i'll i'll turn around and show you the books the books here are just they're they're terrible hold on wait did they so espn made this for you correct they did can you read this are gmos safe

a little princess this is this is my favorite one right here deconstructing the elements in adobe photoshop oh no i'm sorry this is my favorite production grids in asia in asia what is this so they sent you that just said tape this to your wall you look sophisticated no no they uh it's actually pretty cool if you look at it it's like a projector yeah no it's like a uh it's like one of those maps back in high school like check it out check the way it looks your screen you look do you have multiple backgrounds or is that your only one uh this right now is the only one i think i think

i'm getting like an updated one i may actually real-life things. But to answer your question about the records, these, like, I listen to music when I write. So I will listen to Radiohead, Pink Floyd, Weezer, Rage Against the Machine, and Wu-Tang Clan. So you do jokes. Did you pick it out? Wait, did they ask you what kind of music you like? Yeah, they asked me.

You know, like, I picked out, like, the Nintendo. My son, who's 12 years old, is, is like an avid Rubik's Cuber. He's one of those kids who can solve a Rubik's Cube. How old are you, Jeff? Jeff, you look like you're 12. I'm turning 40 this year, actually. 40? Happy birthday!

Happy birthday! It's not until September, but that's okay. I'll take it. To answer your first question. It's not until September, but that's okay. I'll take it. To answer your first question. Oh, no. Every year.

Get your hand off the speaker. Get your hand off the speaker. Oh, was I messing? Yeah. If the iPad had just worked, none of this would be screwed up. Technology's a pain in the ass. That's what it is. Every year, Major League Baseball teams do audits,

and they send the audited financials over to the Players Association. That's not good enough for the players right now. They're not buying what teams are saying about how much money they're going to lose under these circumstances. So they're looking for national television contracts. They're looking for local TV deals. They're looking for local TV deals. They're looking for sponsorship agreements. They're looking for information that allows them to not just sit here and say, when MLB says, hey, trust us with this stuff, they don't trust them. And that's part of the

problem, right? Part of the problem is that this relationship historically has been so broken that there is a giant amount of distrust, especially for the players going toward the owners. Is there going to be replacement players potentially? I hope it's not you. What? Jeff. Jeff. What's going on?

Listen, can one of us keep it real here I will say this you're looking more swole now than you then you were. You look good, man. Thank you. You would fill the uniform out well. Do you mean swole or just overall big? You look strong. Is he accusing you of PEDs? Are you saying I'm on juice? Because by the way, I think that is something they should think about.

If this season gets canceled, have all the big stars take all the steroids that they want, do a home run derby in a bunch of stadiums bingo bango we got money back what will they do will they cancel the season though potentially yeah absolutely i think it's a possibility i don't think it's going to happen i think it would be catastrophically stupid of them to do that but yeah i mean it's it is absolutely within their rights to do that and uh it would be so major league baseball of them to say in the

middle of a pandemic when 40 million people have lost their jobs we couldn't figure out how to split up billions of dollars jeff what's the uh timeline as far as the uh mlbpa sending back their proposal and then when it needs to get approved and when everything's going to then start drop dead time yeah that's gonna that's gonna happen either today or tomorrow like by the end of the week the PA is gonna have its proposal back in baseball's hands and MLB is going to reject this like we we already see how this whole thing is playing out right like we know that the players are going to be as far and as extreme as the owners were in their proposal i think what happens after that is going to be interesting because the

ball is back in the owner's court at that point and and they're the ones who get to say okay it's time to try and play ball here or now we're just gonna sit around waste time and and let the days go by as these other sports get back onto the field and onto the ice and onto their courts. The ball's in their dugout, by the way. Nice. Yes, it is. Jeff, final thing for me, I guess. Like we said, everything's going to happen quickly, I guess.

But what happens? Let's say they cancel the baseball season. What does it do? What kind of damage does that do in the future for baseball? That's such a good question because you can't just look. Pat, you asked good questions too. Don't worry, buddy. You had a sad face on there.

Just fucking get on with it. I mean, I've been insulting your baseball ability. It's all right. Just showcase your brain, please. See, did you pick up baseball lingo when you were there? What's that about? Yeah, I get good wood. I'll tell you, you hang it, I bang it.

I'll tell you that right now. Did you ever hear somebody say that you've got the ass? Do you know what the ass is? I would assume it's in football. If you've got an ass, you're explosive and you're an athletic guy and you're incredibly handsome. No, no. The ass is like short for red ass. And a red ass is someone who gets pissed off

and is easily tilted. And it looked like when I was talking about your baseball playing ability that you got a little bit of the ass. So I didn't mean to give that to you. Back to your question, AJ, which I totally forgot. And so if you can just remind me one more time.

If baseball is canceled this year, what kind of damage does this do to the future? Yeah, yeah, yeah. 2021 is already problematic. Like 2021 is already scary. Because let's say that we are still in this very weird state of affairs where we're not going to be in close contact with one another, where there's no vaccine and where social distancing or some form of it is still in effect. How filled their stadium is going to be at that point? How many fans are you going to be able to pack in? I mean, we're looking at like at SEC games this year. What are they going to put?

20,000 people in? What's I mean, how many people are going to be at the horseshoe this year? 30,000 to 50,000 they said they could fit in there. Who knows? Yeah. I mean, maybe at a baseball game. And who gets the tickets, too? Jeff, who gets these tickets? On baseball?

Nobody. Who gets the tickets? What's the price? How do you, like, is it a lottery? Do you end up, do rich people only end up getting these tickets? Yes. Like, do you sit apart from your family? I mean, there are all these questions about 2021.

And if they come back, the players are not going to want to take pay cuts for playing 162 games. No way. Especially after last year. Especially after a free agent market, guys. That's going to be a disaster. Because there's just not going to be that appetite for teams to take on the revenue so and so at that point and and against the backdrop to aj of a collective bargaining agreement that is done after the 2021 season so you have that hanging over it

too like it is a gnarly next year and a half that we're looking at in baseball. So the players are pissed about that 50 50 revenue split because that's setting up for a potential salary cap in the next CBA, which makes a lot of sense. My last question for you before we get out of here, I heard the players and it might've been from you. I assume it was from you. You're the only person that gives me any baseball information these days. What I, the players want a longer season and then they want it prorated. Is that accurate?

And what is the deal with wanting a longer season that for for stats and things of that nature is that strictly money driven it's both i mean the the argument in favor of a longer season is is to is to get you know you get more game checks essentially every day you play you know every day mike trout plays um he's gonna make 210 or so thousand dollars and the more of those yeah000 or so. And the more of those, yeah, it's good living. And the more of those $210,000 games you can get, or even for a player who's making the minimum, he's doing all right too. The more of those days you can get, the better off you are financially.

And the more stats you can get, the more value you potentially add to yourself going forward. But it's also paddle leverage. If MLB wants 82 games, we're going to go higher than that because we feel like there's a point at which we can meet somewhere. And that allows MLB to go back and say, Hey, we'll do more than 82. We're going to do less than the 110.

In your hands, Jeff. Jeff. Jeff. Pretty bad. that's not must not be it where are you how are you holding the phone how are you holding yourself i have i'm holding it oh there you go there it is there it is jeff your big mitts get on the uh the the speaker there for a week oh is that oh were you not hearing any of that no no we did not hear much of that it looked good that looked like you were spitting the facts and we got to the point where each game check they get for each game and i think it made a lot of sense but for me i always thought that i thought the season i thought the season was too long to begin with but turns out the players actually like how long it is.

And what will this do for records going forward? I assume that is what a lot of players are thinking about, legacy stuff and potential contracts of the future. I assume there's a lot that has to be digested here by the players' side. Yeah. I mean, listen, this is not an easy thing to get done if you have a few months. When you have a ticking clock that's like a week away, that is what puts the season in the most peril. It's the combination of what they need to get done with the timeline to get it done. Jeff, I want to let you know this.

You are incredible for the game of baseball. We appreciate you every single time you speak, especially on this show. You're the best. Sit by. Let us know what happens with that MLBPA proposal for the MLB. I'm assuming it'll be thrown in the dumpster. Ladies happens With that MLB PA proposal For the MLB I'm assuming It'll be thrown In the dumpster

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You did great there I don't know if you're gonna get better You hello the park See See what i did nice that was baseball stuff good conversation a lot it doesn't feel like that deal is gonna get done and i would like scott boris didn't know that guy existed before the tweet last night called him a stooge he's negotiated over a billion dollars worth of guarantees in the last couple months not a stooge but you could see how some people who aren't repped by him are like hey you are not speaking for all of us here bauer is quite a powerful name in the baseball world as well and i'd assume bauer and there's a probably a lot of other people

that are like hey we are in the middle of a pandemic with 38 million people on unemployment let's play baseball like i bet you there's some i don't want to say a majority but i bet you there's a lot of baseball players that are like hey let's get this done we are let's play baseball let's play baseball like I bet you there's some I don't want to say a majority but I bet you there's a lot of baseball players that are like hey let's get this done we are let's play baseball let's make some money let's be a distraction we can grow the game in this particular time and then you got the there's probably a lot of other people that are like hey listen yeah Chipper Jones said the same damn thing I assume Chipper Jones and in the bar power probably on the same page but it's it's got to the point where the business side of it but it's it's got to the point where the business side of it I feel like it's going to hold it up which by the way is always what happens

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once basketball, hockey, all these other sports are opening up and playing, and all of a sudden baseball's like, no, we couldn't come to an agreement on how much we're going to pay our guys, so our season's canceled. All right, think about this. Jerry Springer, chaos. Drew Ratings. on how much we're going to pay our guys so our season's canceled all right think about this jerry springer chaos drew ratings wwe chaos draws ratings sign stealing garbage can batting that was the most the mlb had been talked about more than the Astros winning the World Series it was talked about how they cheated to win the World Series if they go into a strike or not have a season

I think people will talk about the MLB potentially more than ever especially if the NBA and the NHL and the NFL are playing at the same exact time of the MLB because normally there's that time period where the MLB is the only show in town we actually it used to be like a gloom and doom time now that i know more about baseball it's not but it used to be a time when you're like oh there's only baseball on or whatever now it's like there's a chance the afl is going to be on aussie rules football is going to be on zion williamson's potentially going to be dunking at 10 a.m somewhere then you got sydney crosby playing in the afternoon then you got Sidney Crosby playing in the afternoon. Then you got, there's so many options happening. It would be, I think, a lot of conversation about the MLB would happen if they were to strike.

I don't know. They might get buried in there. The 94, was it 94 strike? That did not go well after that. So would this be considered a strike? Yeah, right? Because a lockout. Yeah, they're not getting locked out.

The owners, I guess it just couldn't come to an agreement and the players are saying no we won't play under that so yeah i guess it's a strike it would be a strike because they're not agreeing to the collective bargaining that's being proposed by the league so they're saying what are most people like when you if you hear people or just casual fans are people picking a side like are they sticking with the owners of the players i don't know any fans of baseball other than Ty, but I do believe that in the world of 2020, there feels as if there's a little bit more of a momentum on the player side than there has been in the past, like Jeff Bassett was talking about. It feels like people are a little bit more understanding of the baseball player,

but any time the numbers start getting floated out, I think all of that momentum towards the player is like, man, play the fucking games. You guys are making how much money? I think that i think that is ultimately at the end of the day how everybody feels but i don't know a lot of baseball yeah i'm like twitter and everything when you look at like the responses to these tweets and stuff like that that's predominantly what it is it's like these guys like just need to shut up and play pretty much yeah and that's always going to be the reaction same thing that was happening during the cba for the nfl same

exact thing that was happening it's like oh billions of dollars are doing this stuff and i don't i think it's because the owners have the team and have given the community since before whatever players in there and they'll be there after the players there so it's more like they're representing the community as opposed to the players that are just representing themselves but the players are much more relatable than the owners i mean the players come from where everybody else comes from, and they happen to make it to the top. And in the business negotiations, you think that would be enough to sell them, but it turns out that's never the case

because whenever you see that giant number next to them, you're like, just take the fucking deal. What are we even doing here? Well, everyone assumes that every player is Mike Trout, making $37 million a year when Mike Trout's one guy doing that. So those are the numbers people see. And like Jeff said, what, 65% of Major League Baseball makes a million dollars or under.

Now that's great money, obviously, but they're not, those guys, they want those checks bigger than Mike. Mike Trout needs that 37 mil. So we had a stat that said 40%. Then he dropped that 65%. And then I heard a $2.5 billion stat. And then I heard a $7.5 billion stat. And then I heard a $7.5 billion stat.

I don't know what stats about baseball are accurate, but I do know it feels like the son of a bitches aren't playing. That's just what it feels like. And, I mean, he laughed me out of the room or whatever, but that's why Jeff Paston isn't a scout. The scouts know that I've got a potential swing. The scouts know that I can potentially go after him. He's not a talent evaluator.

He doesn't know what he's talking about. Hey, he's very good for baseball, by the way. The way he speaks, he has a personality, he seems to know a lot of stuff. I like Jeff a lot there, and he championed the players pretty hard there, which doesn't normally happen, by the way, because normally the leagues are in, I don't want to say in the ears of the people speaking, but I think that is normally the case. And he came out and was like, no, the players deserve theirs too.

What up, Dick? For you guys, and in reference to Scott Boris, who is like the Rosenhouse of baseball, but with much more power, when you guys go through a CBA, do your agents talk to you about what to do as far as voting and stuff like that? We didn't vote last time. When I was in the league, we didn't have

that league-wide email vote thing. It was just like, I was skydiving and stuff, and I was like, yeah, I'll let the people figure it out. What's going on? I'm not a rep for a reason speaking of i just got out i just got a reprieve from the substance of abuse policy here uh let's go ahead and have a great time here i'll let i'll let the people who know what they're doing know what they're doing but the difference with this is with scherzer talking he's the star of the game 35 million in the nba lebron james and chris paul they're talking

they're the stars of the game in the nhl I would assume the stars of the game are talking. In the NFL, it's not. Aaron Rodgers wasn't even an executive committee member. He was just a rep or whatever. And when he came out and spoke, people were like, okay, Aaron Rodgers is speaking about it. But Aaron didn't really have the control to do anything. So that's the difference between the NFLPA, I think,

than all the other leagues is that the superstar players are not the ones that are the executive committee members. They're not the ones that are in there pitching things because it is a pain in the ass to be a part of. And a lot of the decisions aren't great decisions that you would want to be associated with. It's just a whole different world in the NFLPA for us. You agree with that, AJ? I do. There's definitely some stars that are on the executive committee, but you're right. There's not a whole lot of them. And I think Aaron even told us on the show, didn't he talk about how he went and wanted, when they were talking with the owners, he went to one of the meetings in New York, I think. And then he got there and he's like, wait, this is not what I thought at all.

And he kind of pulled himself back, it seems like, on taking whatever, such a public stance on what was going on. Yeah. And by the way, whenever you're a star and you're making those decisions, now you're getting judged by the decisions that you're making. It's a difficult thing to do. I would not want to be a person that's making a decision in this whole thing. Like Max Scherzer is obviously going to be a guy that's making a decision

because that last CBA, you and I both know, AJ, when that CBA in 2010 or whatever it was came out, the months following it was a lot of buyer's remorse by the players. The amount of things that were getting picked apart about it, and then every question you had, you'd go to the player rep, and you'd be like, so we agreed to insert terrible deal here, comment to the player. Yeah, we did that because blah, blah.

It's like, okay. There was never like a, hey, good negotiation on that one. It was always like a doctor. You only show up at a doctor when something's wrong that's kind of what a player rep is like hey this is bullshit why'd you guys agree to this well we had to it's like okay then another person comes in hey this is bullshit why'd you go well and if you're a big-time player you're like i'm not dealing with that i will let other people figure that out it's just but the bottom half of the roster is very much more represented in the NFL PA as opposed to these other sports, I'd assume. Yeah, you're right. But also I feel like the owners are just kind of playing with the union when they did that too. Like, oh, hey,

guess what guys, your union rep can tell you. We used to come back for off season workouts, like March 15th. Now we don't have to come back till April 15th. So we've got an extra four weeks at home. Now, was that awesome? Yes. I think it was great being able to work out at home for an extra month but you give up big chunks of money to have that extra four weeks and Also not have some kind of rules Throughout training camp where you can't have two days and pads and all kind of stuff like that Stuff that the owners don't care about like okay cool stay home an extra four weeks. I don't to feed you I don't have to you don't to use the water in our facilities to to shower and stuff

I'm gonna make more money by paying you guys You don't have to use the water in our facilities to shower and stuff. I'm going to make more money by paying you guys a smaller chunk of the pie, and you're here less. Yeah, there's a lot of convenience things that get passed as opposed to business things in those negotiations, and it's always like that doesn't feel like we're negotiating at the same level as the owners here, but they're billionaires for a good reason. We have some breaking news here in the NFL. owners here but they're billionaires for a good reason we have some breaking news here in the nfl that onside kick proposal of the uh first and 15 in lieu of the onside kick did not pass by the nfl

rules committee the nfl rules committee that has tried their best to make the game as good as possible last year they enacted a pass interference review that Alberto Riveron absolutely shit on. The rules committee said that first and 15, we ain't doing that Bushley garbage up here in the NFL. We might have to make some adjustments to the onside kick so teams can stay in it and fans can believe they're still in it and gambling can believe they're still in it. We agree, but this ain't our sport. We're not turning this into a sideshow. We're not doing the first and 15. It's not going to cater to the offense when the defense was just on the field. We're not going to let refs potentially make the entire decision of the game and the outcome of the game. That's what the rules committee voted on today. And by the way, I think it was a smart

decision. Once you start diving deep into the first and 15 concept at first, it sounds brilliant. And then you're like, wait a minute. The refs can control everything. You have a little bit of forethought. Good decision by the rules committee, in my eyes, not to eliminate the onside kick. But we do have to adjust it to make it a little bit more exciting later. I think eventually the fourth and 15 thing might pass or a version of that. Just because you're right. It would add a lot of excitement to the game.

It would keep people tuned in, gamblers and people that are fans of the team because you're like hey you never know man you're never really out of it a couple of these fourth and 15 conversions we're right back in this thing so i think it could pass someday i i don't know man you don't remember that rules committee is there to save the same onside kicks are useless now though it seems like well i think you can change them though i think you can make the onside let him run again let him get a running start you declare that you're going to kick an onside kick the ref makes an announcement just like when an offensive lineman declares himself eligible for as a wide receiver or whatever you make the announcement hey this team is doing an onside kick okay we'll go back three years to the previous rules you can have six on one side it

can't have seven but you can have six on one side so you can have an overload you back them up five yards so they can have a little bit of run now let's build up back the success percentage that we had just a few years ago even though there might be a chance of a collision happening at least there's still the chance of receiving the ball to extending the game to give a team that's down a chance because with the no running start with the no overload the odds are stacked so hard against the kickers in the kicking team that I don't even think kickers work on it anymore. Because it's like, why would I waste my time doing something that is so impossible to accomplish? And I mean, I want to blame them for it, because if you're a good onside kicker, it's a weapon for your team. But whenever you see the success percentage and the way the rules are set up, it's like, damn, there's no chance we're going to be able to really do this in a beneficial fashion. There are going to be collisions

either way, too. If there's a fourth and 15 and some guy got earholed across the middle, that's a collision either way. Yeah, I don't know. What it's going to take, Pat, it's going to take a nice, beautiful two-hop onside kick receiving team of receivers in the second line. He goes up to get it.

Somebody takes it, like two guys coming down on the kickoff coverage team, flip him in the air. He goes up to get it. Somebody takes it, like two guys coming down on the kickoff coverage team, flip him in the air. He breaks his neck. It's terrible. It's a Monday night or Sunday night game. That's when the rule changes. Well, you know what? If that happens, I think their hands

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They did not expect it to look that way. But it feels as if Elon Musk has made space travel relatively easy. Now, granted, there was a little bit of rain, so they had to cancel it eventually, which anybody that looked at a Doppler earlier in the day would have known they wouldn't have been able to get off the fucking ground. But I think this was a rollout plan for the SpaceX-NASA thing, and those astronauts looked so comfortable,

maybe because they knew they weren't going to take off. But the seats, everything I've ever heard about space travel is like it's hellacious it's chaos it's this these two were relaxed and calm while the ninjas watched their back and set everything up so that picture you posted it it's a it's like a spooky picture it reminded me of the video was the guy's name jihadi john who sawed a few people's heads off an isis guy it looked he looked like i'm standing behind him in the full ninja gear it was scary it was scary jihadi john i heard a jihadi john he was a brit i think wasn't jihadi john i think he was a british fellow i think he was the executioner that's what you thought about america finally sending american astronauts

back to space a monumental paramount moment for our country and for our space travel and you thought a jihadi john from that picture that you put you just put up earlier and you won't put down that's what it means you're 100 right the ninja no you're not 100 right but you're the ninjas were obviously a little bit of a distraction to the show and when you're watching something for four hours and you just got two saturday night live voices talking over it and you're showing different clips, it's hard not to get lost in the things that are happening around the astronauts as opposed to the actual astronauts. For instance, when the astronaut dropped something out of its pocket and one of the ninjas picked it up, that was a highlight moment. When Elon Musk came in and speak, that was a highlight moment.

But it was a lot of nothing. I mean, elevator doors were closing on these astronauts at one point they had to touch each other to tell them give a thumbs up to the crowd they waved to their fans the helmet looks like a motocross helmet and it wasn't a takeoff but it feels like america's getting back into the space race and we got a space force and ufos are being released from the pentagon it seems like connor's going to be able to go to space if he wants to just by saying, I do. Can't wait! I think this is great. It's setting up what space travel may be like.

And I know Richard Branson, Elon Musk, they want to send just regular old people into space. Now, you can't really say regular people when you're probably going to have to pay $400,000 for one ticket to go up into orbit for 30 minutes and come back down. $250,000 I was offered. You were offered? What do you mean? 400k for one ticket to go up into orbit for 30 minutes and come back down 250 000 i was i was offered you were offered what do you mean yeah like a couple years ago i got an email asking if

i want to go to space for 250 000 and if they would have caught me at the right time i would have responded yes and i think they would have hustled me out 250 000 because i didn't even think that existed yet but i guess that is something that's coming well you'd be on the list yeah you wouldn't have to pay it until you actually went to space i would imagine well i don't think i want to go to space anymore anyways. I get car sick in the back of an Uber. I don't know if I should be going to fucking space. You know what I mean?

I just don't know if that's the right case. But I like it. Elon's rockets might not have any turbulence. You never know. It literally looked like they were hopping in a car. Now, first of all, they hopped out of a Tesla that had the butterfly does. Have you ever seen a Tesla with the butterfly does? Son, son, here's a habit.

Get like me. They opened that thing up, and these, you know, spacemen walked out with their costumes. I mean, it was fresh out of a movie, but then when they got in the space shuttle, I guess my recollection of these things were all from movies and from failed attempts and things. They looked like they were just sitting in a Tesla

that was just about to take. Comfortable. You know, the guy had regular glasses on, didn't even have rec specs on. Looked like you could have just flipped down the motocross helmet. It looked like a shield that people were wearing to shield themselves from coronavirus.

Touchscreens. I mean, touchscreens. It just looked like it was such a potentially comfortable operation going to space. And I'm like, this motherfucker Elon Musk is definitely an alien. Like, you think about where we were to where we're at now.

It's just light years ahead. And I say that because light years is a space thing. I'm on one today, man. I'm hot. I'm batting a thousand.

Oh, another baseball reference. But it's just one of those things where I think we're going to get to space, but yesterday, five hours of fucking nothing. When everybody who looked at a Doppler knew

that there's no chance that thing was taking off stunk so are you going to tune in on saturday when they try to do it again one thousand percent can't wait we'll check the doppler so i kind of know the ending of the story already before it gets started you know i'll still watch maybe think hey maybe we'll uh take off in between the clouds maybe we'll get going like when you're on a motorcycle and you're traveling and it rains and you have to go underneath a bridge and then you got to become fucking jim cantore all of a sudden and you're traveling and it rains and you have to go underneath a bridge. And then you've got to become fucking Jim Cantore all of a sudden. And you've got to start reading the clouds. You're like, I think we'll get a break right there.

And you take it. Maybe they'll do that with the rocket to get up to the space station because they're already, what, three days behind on the mission. So I'm pumped to see if this works, by the way. This feels like it's a potentially very dangerous thing. And yesterday was such a casual roll out of it. They are now getting into the elevators. Look at them sitting down, saying hello to each other. Ninja 12 just tied his shoe.

Okay. Elon will be joining us in four to five minutes. The elevator door just shut on their face. No big deal. You need to get that job. You need to get that voiceover gig. They're going to spoof it on Saturday Night Live, I think. They have to. Somebody's spoofing that

right now. Isn't Saturday Night Live still all remote? I assume. I don't know. It doesn't work for that, though. I don't know. Hey, do you think Clowney really turned down a big offer from the Browns? Okay. Okay. I'm happy you brought that up. I'm happy we're talking about this. I don't think he turned down a multi-year big contract from the Browns. Okay. Okay. I'm happy you brought that up. I'm happy

we're talking about this. I don't think he turned down a multi-year big, big contract from the Browns. And I could be completely wrong here. I could be completely off base, but this feels like if this was maybe a one-year deal, maybe it was a one-year offer and it had some good money and a big deal. What's a big deal, by the way? Is that over 10 million? Over 10 million is a big deal. When you're asking for 20 million to begin with, I mean, what's a, he, J the way? Is that over $10 million? Over $10 million is a big deal. 17. When you're asking for $20 million to begin with, I mean, Jadavion Clowney is going to make big money anyways. I don't think he turned down a multi-year deal for Cleveland. Now, people are saying, well, he didn't want to go to Cleveland,

and I assume a lot of people in Pittsburgh are celebrating this, that somebody turned down a deal strictly because they didn't want to go to Cleveland or something of that nature. But if you're Jadavion Clowney and a team that is spending money and rebuilding a culture they're trying to over there, and it seems like they've got a weapon, and you don't have a multi-year big offer from anybody else, I don't know how you turn that down.

I do not know Jadeveon Clowney, but I'm assuming he did not turn down a multi-year big deal. In my – I just don't know if that's accurate. It's all relative. Like what is – a big deal to us may not be a big deal to him. So I'm sure – I would – does he want to go to Cleveland? I don't know. It would be a nice situation to have Myles Garrett on the other side.

If you're a clown, you're like, hey, this can only help me as an individual player, having a guy like Garrett on the other side, and the roster does look good. I would imagine that the numbers aren't where he thought they should be. That's all it is. But they're saying big offer, making it sound as if. A big offer to them, but maybe not a big offer in his eyes of what he feels his value is. We need Charles Robinson from Yahoo.

Yes. Do we have his number? Want to call him? Yeah, call him right now. AJ, we're going to have to hang up on you. Charles Robinson, Yahoo reporter, senior NFL writer. He lives in Houston. He was like Jadeveon Clowney's mouthpiece just a little bit ago.

Let's give him a call, see if he'll answer. By the way, we have no idea if our relationship with Charles Robinson is like this or not. I don't know if we can just – We're about to find out. We're about to find out a lot about our relationship with Charles Robinson here whenever we give him a call. He could be in the middle of something.

I just don't see how Jadeveon Clowney, businessman, football player, looking – I don't know how you turn down a multi-year big contract offer from the Cleveland Browns. I just don't think he does that. Unless he thinks a bigger one's coming or possibly a better situation. But what would tell you that's happening whenever we're this far into free agency? There's no situation better than having another all-pro defensive end on the other side, too.

Yeah, I don't know. This feels like this could potentially be from his agents talking about how, hey, we want to let people know that we are getting big offers. We're picking and choosing where we want to go and that type of stuff. I don't know. If it's strictly because he doesn't want to go to Cleveland, he turned down a massive contract. Would it attract other offers if they see that?

No, I don't think so. I think it's doing the opposite. So who would start these rumors? Would it be Jadeveon Clowney because he wants people to know and his people want to know, like, people are interested in me? Is that what he's trying to do? Or is this story potentially going to tell people, like, what, you turned down a big contract, multi-year,

so what we're going to offer you, then there's no chance you're – Maybe Seattle wants him back because they've already floated out an offer to him. I don't know. I have no idea what could potentially. He didn't answer? He did not. This motherfucker. Chuckie.

Should we text him and tell him the situation or just try to call him again? No, no. I mean, we're kind of blindsiding him here. That's probably not good journalistic integrity. But he's probably writing an article. Did you just hang up on AJ? Oh, AJ. AJ.

Sorry, AJ. What's that? Is that four times? Well, he hung up the first time. Oh, AJ. AJ. Sorry, AJ. What's that? Is that four times? Well, he hung up the first time. Oh, true. You guys are getting a little finger happy back here on hanging up on a guy. So we had good baseball talk today. Oh, yeah. We had good football talk today. We had good

business talk today. Space talk. Space talk. Talked NBA, too. Talked NBA. This is a show. Look at us with a daily show, me and AJ. Mac Fee and Hawk, sports talk how about jeff passing giving him no credit early for his show that was tough that was tough for aj what was what was that dude what was tough for me oh nothing no no oh you're back white by the way it's you not yellow okay good for you proud of you here pal i was talking about when jeff said

this was the pat mcfee show not not McAfee and Hawk, and then since he said that, he tried to make up for it by coming after me the whole time. It was just an interesting... I understand the confusion. It does say the Pat McAfee show over your shoulder. Yeah, but it also shows A.J. Hawk taking a shit over my shoulder, too. Top left corner, it says McAfee and Hawk Sports Talk, too.

Yeah, and right up there. You know what I mean? See that? I don't see anything that you see. How about now? i do why doesn't he just have the uh the what do you see you just see me most of the time i just see you yeah now i see split screen i guess what it looks like on the for people watching we should probably have that for would you rather see what everybody's yeah you would rather see what everybody's seeing right yeah obviously because you'll pop tweets up and be reading them and stuff or pictures that i can't see oh don't put me on the bus i put i give you those he does i'm not trying to say i'm not trying to put any more work on you know he threw hey

didn't he toss them oh my god shoved them down just picked them up he's like hey you know i didn't know you were gonna be this light by the. And then he just threw you right out of the fucking bus. The reason why I always go single shot out, because we had Josh sit in on once, and he refused to look at his phone the whole time. He refused to look at himself. Yeah, because the split screen or whatever. Oh, that's a Libin thing. Yeah, but we should do this.

We should do the program feed to them every single time. Is that something you can do every time? No, yeah. I just do it for convenience, because they can time. Is that something you can do every time? No, yeah. I just do it for convenience because they can't see the fools when you're doing stuff. How about a Zoom? A Zoom can't do the program feed to them, right? Yeah, okay. Hey, by the way, we're getting into the Zoom game.

We've been late to it. I mean, it already turned on. How are we getting into it? I think we're going to start using the Zoom for these conversations because I don't like that we have to hang up on you and then bring you back we could just create a room and i think they could join us in the room and then leave it feels like as long as it can be good quality well we had to pay 20 bucks a month and you're gonna have to do by the way so that's something you're gonna have to do as well send my card info over no i think you're gonna have to do

it at the house at your house i think i think I'm going to have to pay for the Zoom account. Yeah, yeah, yeah. For your account, yeah. Okay. Sounds good. Just write it off. Write it off, yeah. Telegovernment.

A lot of those write-offs got taken away. What? Did they? I didn't know that. Yeah. When you were in the NFL, were you writing off a bunch of shit? I had guys that were like, oh, that's 60-inch television. Watching film on it, aren't you?

Write it off. Because that's a big that's 60-inch television. Watching film on it, aren't you? Write it off. Because that's a big player's love to do that. I had a guy lease a Lamborghini and tell me he did. Oh, I did it through my LLC, so it's a write-off. Oh, cool, cool. Still 25 grand a month or whatever it is. Oh, you know what? You're going to get back probably, I don't know, maybe 20 cents on your dollar there.

Way to go, dude. Way to, maybe 20 cents on your dollar there. Way to go, dude. Way to, maybe 15. Whatever the percentage is, it's still a wasted amount of cash. Just like almost the rocket launch yesterday that never happened. Because I saw the Doppler wasn't going to happen. Anyways, AJ, I can't thank you enough, buddy. You're the best. Every single time I get a chance to chat with you, I enjoy it.

Thanks, guys. Appreciate it. Jeff was a great guest as well. So good job booking him. Hey, thank you. Can of dips, by the way. Remember this remember this Canada dips promo code Canada dips promo code lip boomers LIP b o o m e r s all capital letters 10% off they go Canada CBD right there just say it's good tobacco replacement do your thing get some CBD in your life.

All right. That feels like the show. You have anything else to say, AJ? You got anything you want to tell people? No, I think I'm okay. I think I'm more and more impressed by your ability to string together like a three-minute monologue that continues. You have no filler words. It's just impressive how your brain works.

I continue to learn every day how unique your brain is. Thank you, AJ. Thank you. And you remember I told you from day one how this works. I'm sprinting down a grocery store aisle just grabbing things that I've learned. And that's why if you got a rat in the house that leaves me bad information, that thing's going to be on the shelf. And if i run down

and grab it and everybody's like that was not accurate it's like son of a bitch we have learned to double and triple check everything we say pre-meeting because it will be said it will be said pre-meeting conversation whenever oh if they if they throw if the boys spitball something at you like it sticks like they could say anything and, and it's going to pop into your brain during the show. Parallel universe. You're going to act like it's fact. I have one of these memories that pretty much can recall everything

about a conversation if I'd like to. Like Rain Man. Yeah. Yeah, I need to read that 21 book, by the way. But the... You know what I mean? I need to do that. But that is...

So easy. So easy to do. Is it really? Yeah. You just got to get a team, like a team of like four or five geniuses together. You got that. You be in one of them. And then you guys can count the cards.

And, ooh, this is a hot deck. Yep. Now it's in our favor. This is when we start betting big. That's what the whole thing was. Plus one. Plus three. I saw the movie.

I've seen 21. But I just want to learn it because I'll do the hand signal behind there. And then Genius Diggs will come in. Then Genius Nick will come in. Then Genius Zito will learn it because i'll do the hand signal behind there and then genius digs will come in then genius nick will come in then genius zito will sit down and all of a sudden we're taking over the pittsburgh casino rivers casino that has just raped us for all of our cash now we're doing the raking yeah this means hot deck how many more months you think you're gonna carry that bat with you until baseball is irrelevant this is the first time in a long time baseball has been hot topic conversation. And this bat right here has played professional baseball before.

So a lot of people talk about me being a professional baseball player. I wasn't alone. I was with my horse right here. What's weird, though, is if something drastic doesn't happen, some big changes from either the players or the owner's side, there's not going to be a baseball season. No chance, by the way. It has to happen so quick, too.

You're so far apart right now. How do you bridge that gap in the next week? Well, the players are also so far apart. That's just naturally going to happen. Think about the NFL-CBA negotiations. There was months and months, almost years of potential. Now they're trying to make that all happen. I don't

want to be you know gloom and doom bad news bears here but it feels like there's no shot of that thing happening every day that passes leads me to believe it even stronger what are you gonna say at the very least i think they'd have to give them the prorated salaries where they basically just cut it in half for the games because the players have already said that like they were pretty much okay with that but it doesn't seem like that's going to happen. But aren't the owners seeing this too? Do you think the owners could be like okay, if we give them pro-rated

we don't take a big chunk off of the pro-rated share that they get. We're going to be entering, we're going to be starting baseball, win basketball. All these people are having these tournaments that everyone's watching. Are the owners at the same time like wait, people aren't going to turn in. Baseball might be last on the list of what people want to watch if all these sports come back at the same time plus this is the only sport that cannot go

into the winter like they can't play baseball past november yeah kind of soft if you're in a host if you have a couple host cities maybe arizona right good yeah they're kind of soft though you can't have host cities though because the local money is so big. So they can't do it. That's why all these governors are opening up their states strictly for baseball, basically. I mean, it's all because the baseball people are like, hey, we need the local radio, local TV money. That's about it.

Speaking of local, nope. We'll be back tomorrow, though. Only AJ. Where were you going to go with that? Speaking of local, we'll see you Monday? Is that what you're going to say? Normally I say something and then the brain just figures out a way to transition in there, but it's got nothing,

bro. Got nothing. That time it just kind of went out there and then I was like, nah, there's literally nothing local about what will be local. That thought stayed local. Yeah, it did.

It stayed right here. Yeah. Stay right here tomorrow. That will be worldwide again, right here on youtube.com forward slash the Pat McAfee show one o'clock McAfee and Hawk sports talk.clock, McAfee and Hawk. Sports talk. Be a friend.

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Huh? Oh, yeah. Hey, I was proud of what we were talking. Yeah, great stuff. I mean, you're not going to hear that anywhere else. I was like, you know what? Those guys right there, the way they're talking, good. You know?

I hear you. Really good. With the ever-increasing number of makes of cars, you know? Mm-hmm. Yeah, Fiat. Sure. Kia. Yeah. Hyundai. Yep. Honda? Mm-hmm. You got Fiat. Sure. Kia. Yeah.

Hyundai. Yep. Honda. Mm-hmm. Jeep. Yeah. GM. Yeah.

Yukon. No, I missed it. Chevrolet. Chevy. Ford. Yeah. Cadillac. The list goes on and on.

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nine. Well, let me get there right here. This is on me. Eight, nine Jones, N T a F ladies and gentlemen,'9 Jones, NTAF. Ladies and gentlemen, Super Bowl champion, James Jones.

What's going on, fellas? What's on that hat there? Oh, that's San Jose State all day, man. Spartans. Okay, let's go. Those are my Spartans, by the way. I thought that was potentially a Michigan State hat, and we were going to have quite a conversation there.

No, sir. Better Spartans right here. SJSU all day. How's life? How is the NFL network? How is talking about football when we have no idea what the NFL season is going to look like, James? Man, shoot. Life is good, man.

I'm PE teacher over here right now, man, with the kids. So life is good, man. I mean, shoot, I'm dying for some football, man. I'm dying for some stuff to talk about as well, man, with the kids. So life is good, man. I mean, shoot, I'm dying for some football, man. I'm dying for some stuff to talk about as well, man. Just waiting for all this to be over and it'll be over soon, but ready to get back to some football, man. I mean, the draft went on. A lot of teams made some moves. I mean, free agency went on. A lot of teams made some moves. A lot of teams got better. So I'm ready for this thing to unfold, man, so we can see what's going to happen. All right. Let's talk about those in order that you mentioned them the draft the team that you played for and

had a lot of success with had an interesting round one the green bay packers pick up jordan love the quarterback allegedly of the future at least three to four years down the road how do you feel about that whole thing and how do you feel about how aaron rogers has handled it in which he said like listen this isn't jordan love's fault i'm gonna be nice to to him obviously the GM is looking ahead and everything like that how do you think this is going to potentially motivate Aaron or what do you think this is going to do to the locker room man I wouldn't be surprised if Aaron Rodgers wins MVP this year man he's a guy who he's a guy who's all who's always gonna accept the challenge man he's gonna always rise to the occasion man and now you have a guy in the first round who

eventually is gonna have to play we don't know if it's gonna be four years we don't know if it's gonna be two years we don't know it's gonna be 10 we don't know but we know when you take a guy in the first round they are gonna want to see him play before his contract is up and Aaron Rodgers knows that he was one of those guys that was drafted in the first round and had those opportunities so he knows for that to push that back you have to play at a high level. And I believe Aaron Rodgers is going to come out. He will win MVP this year. He's going to have a chip on his shoulder, and he already has.

He's a perfectionist. I've been around the guy for a very long time, man. He is a competitor. He's going to want to show the world that this is my team. This is my job for a very long time, man. But speaking of the draft, I was surprised, just like everybody else was surprised. You take Jordan Love. You're in the NFC Championship game.

We're all watching the NFC Championship game like, man, if they could get another guy on the other side of Devontae Adams, if they could maybe add another pass rusher or something on defense, you know, dang, they could be right there. And then you're waiting in the draft. Oh, yeah, here go the receiver. Here comes. And then you see quarterback and you're like, my goodness, you were in the NFC championship. Aaron Rodgers first year in your system.

He's going into a second year. So I was surprised. But then I sat back and thought about it. Aaron Rodgers, 36 years old. You know, whenever Aaron Rodgers did get hurt or did go down, we come up, the backup quarterback didn't do that well, and our season is gone. You know what I mean?

Because we lost our best player on our team. So you want to prepare for situations like that. I don't think Jordan Love is going to get in the game for about three or four years because I think Aaron has a lot of football left in him. But I understand why they did it. Hey, the FBI, the Football Power Index, which is a computer, says that the Green Bay Packers are the 15th best team in the NFL from NFC Championship to 15 overall, and the Cowboys are at number five somehow.

What do you think about stupid computers making decisions like this? You know what, man? I mean, putting the Packers at 15, I mean, you're looking at all the moves that all the teams have made, and you're saying basically the Packers have not gotten better. And to me, I think that's what a lot of people are saying. Did the Packers get better? And I think that's going to be a question that's going to be answered

in training camp because the draft picks that they did draft, you know, the running back out of Boston College, how big of an impact that's going to be answered in training camp because the draft picks that they did draft, you know, the running back out of Boston College, how big of an impact is he going to be? But when you look at teams like the Niners and the Cowboys, you instantly say, dang, they got better with their draft pick, with their offseason. I mean, you add a C.D. Lamb over there to the Cowboys with already a Mari Cooper and Ezekiel Elliott with a big-time O-line and a Michael Gallup.

I mean, that's – yes. You know what I mean? It's hard to argue that. And speaking on top of that is I'm a big fan of Mike McCarthy. You are going in, Coach, Mike McCarthy's system, which is a receiver-friendly system. Like these guys are going to get a lot of one-on-ones, a lot of opportunities to make plays, man.

I'm telling you, the Dallas Cowboys are scary. I'm going on record saying Aaron Rodgers will win MVP, and I'm going on record saying the Dallas Cowboys will have the best record in the NFC. Okay, I'm going to write that down. James Jones, NFL Network. Mike McCarthy back in the coaching game. I was kind of surprised that the world had forgotten about Mike McCarthy as a head coach until Tom Pellisaro put out like the McCarthy Project

or something like that where he was in his basement, set up a full football facility, was putting a coaching staff together, was watching films, staying ready. His name had kind of drifted away in the football world. And then all of a sudden Jerry Jones brings him in. They stay the night together, have a good time. Now he's the head coach of the Dallas Cowboys. You think good fit.

You think Mike McCarthy's going to lead them to the promised land, huh? Man, I think great fit, man. I know a lot of people want to, you know, kind of, you know, slap Mike in the back of the head for the last season he had with the Green Bay Packers and put all the blame on him for everything that went on. But when you really look at Coach Mike McCarthy, man, Coach Mike McCarthy won the Super Bowl. He has a street named after him in Green Bay.

I mean, he has nine straight playoff appearances. I mean, Coach Mike is a big-time football coach. And me playing with Coach Mike for eight years, I'm going to tell you this, he is special at getting the best out of his players. He's special at taking care of his players. And that's going to get his players. He's special at taking care of his players and that's going to get his players to fight harder for him. His schedule during this during the week you come into that game and you are going to feel lovely. You're going to feel fresh and that is

going to get his team to fight for him day in and day out and on the offensive side of the ball. I can't speak for the defensive side of the ball but for the offensive side of the ball he is going to put his receivers and Dak Prescott in the best situation. And I think Dak Prescott is going to have a huge year in Coach Mike's offense. It's so free. It's so receiver-friendly and quarterback-friendly. It's going to give him a lot of chances to check out of plays. He hasn't signed a contract.

What do you think is going to happen with the drama off the field, though, Jake? That literally has to be addressed at this point. I mean, that is something that has to be addressed for real. Absolutely. I mean, shoot, they're going to have to get them done. I mean, if you want to get to where you're trying to go, you've got to get Dak Prescott done. I mean, period.

You know, I was saying the same thing about Zeke. I believe Dak Prescott and Zeke go hand in hand. If you want to get to the Super Bowl and you want to get where you're trying to go, you have to get Dak done. Is it going to take a lot of money? Yes. Whose fault is it? It's the Cowboys' fault because they waited so long to get Dak done. So everybody's like, Dak's not worth this much. He's not worth that much. Yes, he is because it's his time. And this is the money that they are paying the quarterback. Whether you think he's worth it or not, this is the value of the quarterbacks right

now. It's a lot of quarterbacks making a lot of money that Dak Prescott has did more than. You know what I mean? So it's his time to get paid. So if they want to get to where they're trying to get, and that is obviously the Tampa to the Super Bowl, they have to get Dak Prescott signed. So interesting because there are stories coming out about how he turned down this, he turned down that.

July 15th, massive day for the Cowboys. If Andy Dalton's the quarterback with Mike McCarthy's offense, do they win? See, I say they do win because I'm one of those dudes who's a fan of Andy Dalton. I feel like Andy Dalton can make every single throw. You know, I feel like, I'm telling you, man, Coach Mike's offense is quarterback-receiver friendly, so I feel like he'll be able to get on the same page with these receivers very soon. You know what I mean?

Because the offense is not super complicated. It just allows you to play fast. And when you have the type of playmakers the Cowboys have and the type of playmakers we had, that's why we put that offense in. We had Jordy Nelson, Greg Jennings, Donald Driver, myself, Randall Cobb. So you line up, you play, and everybody plays free. Aaron can check in to certain stuff, check out of certain stuff, get you in the right place, just change one route,

and you're just off and running. And that's what the Cowboys have. So I can see Andy Dalton having a lot of success in that system. I hope Dak gets all the money, bud. I hope everybody gets a billion dollars. That's what I hope. You and me both, man. I'm all for the players, man.

That's what I'm saying. Hey, if you have the upper hand right now and it's your time,. That's what I hope. You and me both, man. I'm all for the players, man. That's what I'm saying. Hey, if you have the upper hand right now in the show time, hey, get your money. Get your chickens, dude. James, I saw you tweet that the Raiders were building that Ferrari. Is Derek Carr going to be driving that Ferrari all season long, or does Mariota have a chance of taking over? Mariota has zero chance.

Hey, they're paying him though they are paying him yeah that's derrick carr team man let me tell you something all right i had a chance man to bounce around this league man and play with a couple teams and some quarterbacks man and let me tell you something derrick carr is special man he's a special thrower of the football you know and a lot of people think like oh man he ain't did this and he ain't did that look at what he's had he's had he hasn't had a big time defense to help him out like a lot of these quarterbacks had all the all the pressure and to win games has been on his shoulders and he hasn't really had a lot of the talent and when he did have a lot of the talent

he was in the MVP conversation and he got hurt before the playoffs and messed the whole Raiders season up so I believe Derek Carr is a special quarterback the keys to the cars is his Marcus Mariota is not even up there in the type of caliber quarterbacks that Derek Carr is in my humble opinion Jordy Nelson said the same damn thing and once you start thinking about the turnover of offensive coordinators and players and things of that nature makes a lot of sense i think before we let you go i think we got a uh maybe a pe student in the room there just got you there my little man just woke up man he always come in here messing with daddy he don't never sleep he wake up well good morning buddy have a great day today your dad just absolutely crushed it you can see him on nfl network and follow him at 89 jones ntaf what does

ntaf mean never think about failure you got it man you got it let's go get to success james jones we have to get to it guys man you too j. It was awesome. Never think about failure. That's all I think about. See, that's the difference between you and James Jones. There's some others as well, but that is one that I think we can pinpoint and say that guy is James Jones and that guy is Anthony DiGilio.

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