The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 209 - State Of The Show Followed By Incredible Conversations With Trevor Bauer & Dan Mullen, Florida Gators Head Football Coach. Let's Have A Thursday

Episode Date: June 4, 2020

On today's show, Pat addresses everything going on in our country and why PMI decided to observe the #BlackoutTuesday movement and not release any type of content on social media. Pat also welcomes All-Star Pitcher and current Pitcher for the Cincinnati Reds, Trevor Bauer. Pat and Trevor discuss his point of view on whether or not there will be a baseball season and his answer might surprise you. They also chat about his Live AB's series on Youtube, his thoughts on the Astros cheating scandal, why he decided to speak out against Scott Boras, and he gets into his philosophy when it comes to pitching with Pat and the boys (12:03-51:50). Next, 2x National Champion and Head Football Coach of the Florida Gators, Dan Mullen joins the program. Pat and Dan discuss everything currently going on across the United States and the world and what Dan's message has been to his players. They also discuss what he has heard in regards to college football coming back on time this year, how difficult all the social distancing has been when trying to put together a football team and what he's been doing to try and get his players to stay prepared for the upcoming season. Pat and Dan also discuss how Covid19 has changed recruiting tactics, and what he looks for when he is signing a player, plus much more in an incredible conversation (53:46-1:23:17). Don't forget to send in the hashtag #ThisIsWhereImAtPat with a picture of where you're listening to the show for the chance to win some free merch. We appreciate you rocking with us, we're all in this together. Come and laugh with us, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello, it is Thursday, June 4th. Had to keep it real for a moment. Then a great conversation follows that, and another, and another. And I can't thank you enough for choosing to listen today. If you like this show, please tell a friend. If you don't like this show, just act like it never happened. Let's do this.

We're gonna come away from this thing together as one. I honestly believe that. Here's why. We are back after a one day hiatus yesterday we participated in the blackout tuesday a pause on social media to raise more awareness for social justice now that was obviously met with mixed reviews from both sides of the line but when i woke up yesterday and i put a black image up on my Instagram and on my Twitter, and the rest of the boys did as well,

I saw that not only it was me, but it was a lot of people that I respect in the African-American culture. It was a lot of people stating that, hey, although you might not be protesting with us, it might not be walking on the streets and you believe in our mission, here's a way for you to take a stand and say,

hey, listen, I value the lives of everybody in America. I value African Americans. I value what they could potentially bring to the table in our world in the future. I value a world where everybody is treated the same. The ideals of America are met. And I said, that is definitely what this office stands for. We've been on the side of justice in this particular office for this entire time. When George Floyd passed the next day, although I am very much known as a person that's just supposed to dance monkey dance and give you a mental vacation, we had to take a stand and say, hey, listen, here's the deal. We know that in the past officers have murdered black people in fashions and ways that we could never really understand.

Unarmed black men and unarmed black women were passing away from cops in the past. And there was never a time, aside from the George Floyd situation, and I think it was because of the quarantine and the lockdown and the coronavirus, where the entire country came together and said that can't happen that was a week ago the entire world was like hey listen what happened to george floyd can't happen again the year 2020 was potentially going to be the time where although a lot of terrible things have happened with the coronavirus and a potential world war that popped off in 2020 was this absolute cluster truck of a year when George Floyd was killed on camera for eight minutes and 40 some seconds. The entire country said, you know what? Now we are in a place where we won't let that fly any longer. Protests happened

across the country. Messages were being stated. Words were being said that a lot of white people had probably never heard before. Hey, it isn't just cops killing black people, although that is something that happens. And the white person's answer is normally, well, black people kill black people as well. Well, that's not the point. The point is people are put in a position of power to protect and serve a community. And in the end, too often or not, those particular people are killing black people in their community and their culture. So the conversation is, well, is that all cops? No, it's obviously not all cops.

And I hope that everybody understands that as well. Just because you post a black image yesterday for Blackout Tuesday doesn't mean you're against cops. But you are against bad cops. And I've heard a lot of good cops say that nobody hates a bad cop more than a good cop. And I believe this weekend's protests and this weekend's message and the George Floyd legacy could have been one where everybody took a stand and say, hey, there's no more bad cops. And while we're at it, we need a little bit more self-awareness. And I saw just two nights ago, protesters in Indianapolis marching towards

the governor's house, which is a little bit outside of the city. The governor had his state police outside of his mansion because it had been said that they were coming towards his house. Those state police, I would assume are pretty high up in the state police. They're the ones that are protecting the governor. And when the protesters got there, there was a standoff. The cops had their shields on. They had their batons. They were ready for the riot. And the protesters were absolutely peaceful.

Now, granted, some of them had high-lie things. Some of them had tennis rackets. And I don't know if that was for potential catch and throwback of tear gas bombs or things of that nature. I don't know what they were expecting. But while they got close to each other, there was a yell-. Protesters are yelling at the cops for being bad cops. And I assume some of the cops were like, hey, we hate the bad cops just as much as you do. Then all of a sudden, in a beautiful moment, the cops and the protesters started to embrace each other. They hugged each other. Then the cops took their riot gear off. The cops then marched with the protesters

down the middle of a street in a city that was supposed to be open, marching alongside of them, trying to hear each other out, trying to talk. I thought it was a beautiful step in the moments that we could potentially have officers of the law understand the black community a little bit more. I posted this. Immediately upon posting it, there was backlash from both sides. The super anti-Black Lives Matter group started tweeting, well, the cops should arrest all of them. They're stopping the streets. They're the ones that burn the things down. And then the Black Lives Matter people were upset about it because they were like, no, as soon as this camera goes off, they're going to tear gas and they're going to shoot

rubber bullets at all those protesters again. It's like, well, damn, is there anything that can happen that'll make everybody happy? And the only thing I can think about is one week ago, we were at a standpoint where everybody was on the same page. Now, granted, that narrative got distracted and moved whenever looters and rioters and opportunists took advantage of a protest that was something for good, and they started burning down our cities. It happened here in Indianapolis, happened in Minneapolis, happened in Pittsburgh,

happened in Madison, Wisconsin, happened in New York, happened in LA, happened in Boston, all these places. The only thing that was being shown late at night was these cities getting burnt down. And the conversation moved from, hey, we're all in this together. It's no longer just Minneapolis being upset about George Floyd's passing. It's no longer just Baltimore.

It's no longer just New York. It is the entire country marching. And what happened on the back end of that was riots, protests, or riots, looters, assaults, violence. In Indianapolis, we had a guy that was protesting, a big member of our downtown community, Chris Beattie, former IU football player, an African-American man. He was shot and killed by somebody who was trying to loot and steal and just take advantage of the situation. Absolutely sad scenario scenario but i do believe if we can all understand that we are all on the same side here this isn't white versus black this isn't race versus race this is

one race the human race versus racists and i believe 2020 is the year that we could potentially all take a stand yesterday i saw some black people tweeting me saying we need help and only thing white people are doing is tweeting a black box. It's like well when I woke up yesterday I was under the impression that if I was to do that it would be me stating hey we're all in this thing together no matter where you're from or what color you are. Then I saw white people tweeting to me saying you think that's to stop racism doing that? I hope it is a chance for people who maybe follow me, who never interact with black people, just to understand like, hey, I value, as should you, and realize that there are some things of our system and some things in our country.

And there's some things that we can change and we can directly affect and make things better just by coming together and I think that is what is gonna ultimately happen last night in cities across the country in New Orleans there was a hug between a cop and a protester when just a couple days ago they were all lined up ready to go Indianapolis the same thing I assume it's happening in cities where I haven't seen the video and everybody's on the same page. The message is one that needs to get heard. The riots, the looting, the vandalism, the fighting, which nobody understands who's directing it, who's involved there, why it's happening. That is people that we, none of us like. Everybody hates those people. black lives matter folks hate

them because they're distracting the message that hey we can change some things laws that have been in place for so long that directly target a community are things that should be changed then there's acts in there that protect police whenever they have misconduct that it doesn't have to become public information so then whenever something comes out that they kill somebody like dave schofield who had 18 police misconducts on his record and then finally his last act as a police officer is murdering somebody on camera and causing now granted george floyd's passing is very sad his murder is very sad but maybe this is a time whenever you see cops and protesters hugging and then us all come together that we we can make our country, one that was founded on opportunity, one that was founded on freedom, truly be for everybody that lives within our borders. And that's where we stand.

And that's why we took the day off yesterday completely. I didn't love that it was on Election Day, especially in Indiana. I didn't love that people couldn't promote other people to go vote i didn't love that espn and fox sports won and everybody else was still doing their shows but i felt a great sense of pride that everybody in this office was like hey although we haven't been a part of the protest and we have used our platform to promote this message of togetherness and getting things right for our next generation of humans whether it's my children Whether it's african-american children Latino children Maybe we all can live in a world where it's good

but we took that stand together here and we will forever believe that and I hope and I think that everybody who has a Sane mind feels the exact same way. Our country's been in battle. There's been a lot going on. But on the opposite side of this thing, I think we'll be a better place for everybody. I hope so.

There's always going to be idiots, though. Every single profession, there's going to be a chance that there's a bad apple in there. That's just something that could potentially happen. I just hope that our togetherness, our unity, our unified voices will be stronger than one hole of an ass who can drive a wedge into us. And I pray for that day to happen. I hope for that day to happen. And yesterday, that's why we took the day off

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It's a good deal. It'll make you better in a sec. GetRoman.com forward slash Pat. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now is a man who is an mlb all-star pitcher for the cincinnati reds trevor what's up guys i can't thank you like the intro yeah well you deserve it man you're awesome the reason why this happened is because you took to the internet about a week ago uh and we're talking about how there's potentially some narratives and agendas being worked into this potential collective bargaining

to get back into the mlb season after this quarantine thing kind of lets up a little bit and i tweeted you and i said hey i'm all about a good burial of somebody that's being a selfish stooge let's talk about it so i thank you so much for joining us today. This is very, very, very, very cool of you. Let's talk about it though. The MLB and the MLBPA are currently in a situation, it seems like a standoff. The MLBPA made their offer back the other day. Where do you sit on this entire thing and what are your feelings about a potential season coming back? I think the first the first thing that we got to talk about is, you know, I'm very confident that a season will be back. Like 95 to 100%. Okay. So that's yeah, news. Yeah, yeah, for sure. I think that we have a long history of

obviously, you know, negotiating with each other as the MLB PA and MLB. But there's been a long history of labor peace i think we're 26 years now 20 since 94 depending on how you count that that year so 20 26 ish years now of labor peace and i gotta imagine there's gonna be uh it'll be the same thing this time we'll get a deal worked out no no doubt in my mind about that there's no way there won't be baseball this year in my opinion so and the comment about scott boris now that's that's an agent by the way who has he signed a billion dollars worth of guaranteed contracts this offseason i didn't know he existed until you tweeted about him and then i kind of did

some research about him were you referring to the potential people inside the mlbpa that are pushing the narrative like hey we need this money to get figured out we need money to get figured we need money to get figured out were you thinking like hey get figured out. We need money to get figured out. Were you thinking like, hey, we're in the middle of 38 million people being unemployed, a completely different world. Should we have a little bit more brains instead of just business side? Is that why you went after Scott Boras or what was your full motive there? Yeah, so there's been a lot of rumors in the industry.

Obviously, anytime you're involved in an industry, you hear a lot of different things from a lot of different people. Some of them are true. Some of them aren't true. There's a lot of stuff that swirls around and people have their own motives and all this different stuff. But anytime someone comes out and is trying to, I guess the way I interpreted it was he was trying to tell players, not just his players, but doing media interviews and stuff like this, exactly how they should be negotiating this, how they should be viewing it. And that's not really his job. His job is to do that for his players for sure. But like for me personally, I don't want to be represented by Scott Boris. I haven't asked Scott Boris to represent me and I don't want his opinions and the way he goes about negotiating for his clients to necessarily be the way I go about it and the way my representation

goes about representing me and my representation being the agent that I've chosen to be represented by the agency and also the PA so I think it's good that everyone has opinions but I think they need to be kept to their opinions and to their clients and you can you can share your opinion about what's going on and breaking it down and giving fans some insight into this is what the deal means or you know just trying to educate people but the opinions on what should be happening and how players should be negotiating and like you know all this stuff saying players should not take another pay cut regardless if i believe it or not you know this is stuff that needs to go on behind closed doors because as you brought up there's a lot of people that are unemployed right now and there's a lot of other risks too

it's not just the financial aspect of it. Look, there's a global pandemic going on and players are going to be the ones out there in close contact with each other playing sports. So we need to address the health concerns. And it's not just the players. As much as the players want to get back out there, and generally athletes are more risk takers than not risk takers as a whole, it's not just us. It's the coaches, It's the medical staff. It's the front office staff and everybody's families that may be in that at-risk category, may have health concerns, may not be in as good a shape as athletes are. So all these things are going to have to be going on behind closed doors anyway. The MLBPA and MLB are going to have to sit down and talk and come to an

agreement at some point, and they're going to do that behind closed doors so why we're having someone out saying this is how the players you know should uh should feel or should negotiate it just does no good i think yeah because the big narrative right now is that okay the mlb and the mlbpa might not have a season you're saying 95 they will but the narrative is they can't figure out the money the money the money and when scott boris comes out and says well players should do this they shouldn't accept this all of a sudden the fans are like well it's obviously the players that are not going to be able to do the money side of this thing so the players look bad where i assume there's a lot of players in the mlb that are like hey we want to play just as bad as everybody like we want to play as well and that's i think you're 100 right for saying like these are conversations that should

be happening behind closed doors and if you look at the nfl by the way the nfl has all these conversations behind closed doors you rarely see any of this shit leak out to the public you know and that's you're 100 right in that i think yeah two things on that one i haven't spoken to a single player yet that does not want to play baseball this season everyone is like okay i want to play i want to get out there and play i like we this is what we're supposed to be doing we all love to play like yes it's tied to the financial ability to like take care of our families i think you know 60 of mlb players or something make under a million dollars a year i could be wrong on those percentages but there's a lot a large portion of people that are on the league minimum that don't make even close to a

million dollars a year and they're looking at pay cuts and then you know they have a family and a house and payments and all that different stuff so there's the financial side of it but there's also the understanding that this is good for the country you know we want to be out there entertaining people that's at the end of the day we're entertainers yeah we play a game we want to win a world series but we're entertainers we entertain millions of people on a nightly basis but we want to be out there doing that we want to have some sense of normalcy at the same time like we recognize that there's added risk and in anything you don't want to be taken advantage of for no reason so this is why we have our union to negotiate in the best interest of the

players uh but then my other point on that is you know nob has come out and made a lot of this about the financial side of things you know it was the you the, you know, partially, I have to explain this part. So partially in the in the original agreement, there are these things that are laid out of like, okay, if x, y, and z are met, we can restart a season. If they're not, we'll discuss the financial feasibility and the health concerns of potentially starting a season. So because the original things have not yet been met, this is why we're having these negotiations and we're discussing the potential start of a season. So that's good. And then we just drive a wedge home right in between the fans and the players by making it all about the money and not about the other stuff. And so for a long term strategy as MLB, I don't know any other company that would intentionally sit there and

drive a wedge between their customer and their product. It doesn't make sense that you would try to have your customers hate your product and think that that's good for a long-term strategy. So when all these details about, you know, oh, it's going to be a 50-50 revenue split gets leaked to the media originally, there was not even a financial proposal that was ever made to the union that reflected a 50-50 financial split. They're lying, Trevor? These people are lying to spin their

narrative no that would never happen i'm not accusing i'm not accusing anyone of lying but when you leak it and you say okay we're going to put this out there in the public as a negotiation strategy we're going to put it out there in the public we're going to see how people react to it we're going to see how players react to it we're going to judge you know that the if they're unified or not if there's argumentation between the players or not like then the fans look at the players and say oh mlb thinks we can be back but the players are greedy and they don't want the money and so now you have a wedge between the fans and the players it just makes no sense long term so it's the it's the let me try to get the best deal of this year and sacrifice the the

long-term health of everybody in the industry. It doesn't make any, this happens anytime there's a collective bargaining conversation. The NFL sees it. The NFL will leak all the good things from their side of the negotiations. And then all of a sudden the PR war is already won by the NFL before the players can even get out and start speaking. And it's always going to be the fans are on the side of the owners because the owners

are there before the players and they'll be there after the players but i think once fans start to realize that hey some of this is just some bs that's getting spun on one side and some of this is just like hey we're trying to figure this out it's very interesting how the pr can win a negotiation before you even get in there i'm very happy to hear though that you're saying 95 like you're the only person i've heard, I think, that knows the baseball world that's like, hey, good chance baseball's coming back. Because I thought there was a chance, Trevor, that you guys were going to potentially strike.

And I've been watching the live at-bats from your momentum company on YouTube. Absolutely, these live at-bats bats concept i want to let you know is brilliant it's genius i wish that they had a camera from the same angle that you're shooting basically for the people that are listening or watching that haven't seen these yet trevor and a couple guys in the mlb went out in the middle of the fucking desert it looked is that an accurate assessment out in the middle of the desert and they set up a uh pitcher's mound and net in a batter and they were able to social distance they kept this whole thing and they were doing live reps i had never seen a pitcher

practice before it was like a practice it was awesome to watch it was a brilliant idea by you yeah it's so much fun uh again just going back to the players wanting to play baseball this is what we want to do so like even in my i guess now off time you know if you want to consider it that like i'm trying to get out there and face hitters because that's i love doing that i love the competition it's like hey you and me we're going to go at each other we're going to see who wins we're going to talk a little trash along the way and i think that's the the concept of having the players mic'd up so the fans can hear like what's going on and see the personalities of the players is so intriguing i watch the nfl you know they do the mic'd up postseason and the NFL films and stuff. It's awesome. And so we're trying to incorporate

some of that stuff into baseball and just showing that, hey, guys are out here being responsible, getting our work in, we're ready to go, but we're also having fun and trying to play the game that we love. We're live at bats, right? If you just search live at bats, Trevor Bauer momentum, you find it, right? I hope. Yeah, absolutely. But what i was saying is i was watching that because i thought there was potentially gonna have to be scab baseball players and i was ready what would you do if i got into a batter's box because i want to come out there but is there any way i can come out to where you pitch out absolutely let's get you out here come on where is it it looks like you're out in the middle of literally like area 51 where are you you're pitching into a bush it seems like yeah arizona uh is a lot of

desert so we get out a little bit from the city in phoenix we get out on the outskirts a little bit and uh there's plenty of places out there you gotta watch out for rattlesnakes uh that's part of it gotta dodge those guys but i want to let you know i played baseball one time in my life okay one time i played for the Washington Wild Things Frontier League We recorded it You can watch it now Pat McAfee professional baseball player It was my only time ever on a diamond

I play hockey right handed I golf right handed I assume I would bat right handed But once we got done with the game By the way three at bats Made contact three times Guy was pitching 90 plus miles an hour No big deal Trevor No big deal By the way, three at-bats, make contact three times. Guy was pitching 90-plus miles an hour.

No big deal, Trevor. No big deal, okay? But I think it wasn't until after we did that that we learned, I think I'm a lefty. So I think I need to, whenever I come out to live at-bats, I'm going to go lefty because I think I'm supposed to be a more natural lefty. Let me know what you think of this hack here, Trevor. Let's just make sure we don't watch out for that watch out for that tv that sign in the back get off my ass okay i almost broke that tv last week with a pretty big hack i don't know if you

saw that or not i almost i did i did we had to move it before this because we knew i was probably going to have to swing this bat again. All right. Horn, ready? I don't like it. Bad pitch. Bad pitch. Good eye. Good eye. Good eye.

Good eye. Good eye. Good eye. Come on, kid. Come on, kid. Hold. Hold. Hold on now, pitcher.

Hold on. Still waiting. It's going to shut. No, that's me pointing at Trevor go pitch that ball what Trevor you scared him maybe I don't come to the desert huh do you think maybe I don't come no I'm not I ain't scared of anything let's get it going who's about we'll put some side bets on it we'll get that out there oh we'll get antsy out there who are some batters though that when they step into the box you know like okay if i miss just a little bit this could be

a real problem is that what's going through your head before you're pitching man yeah manny machado just because he hits like 700 off me with i think he has over a 2000 slugging percentage which means he averages more than a double per at bat. So when he steps into the batter's box, you're like, all right. I'm just like, ah, come on. Just walk. Just go to first. Don't hit a homer, please. They say that – I forget what movie that was,

where the guy says lock in, he's a pitcher, and it kind of blurs out. Yeah. Do you know what that's called? Clear the mechanism, yeah, for love of the game. Yes, for love of the – they show that in a lot of lot of kicking camps right because kicking and punting the same exact mindset now granted you're doing a lot more a lot more reps and things like that but they try to teach you to clear the mechanism like hey it's just you and the ball and stuff like that is that what it's like for you when you're pitching you get in the zone you have no idea what's going on let's say

you're having a perfect game or something if somebody mentions it is all that stuff that you hear about from outside the baseball world true yeah it is uh but for me anyway how i experience it it's all retroactive so in the moment i don't i don't realize that i'm like in the zone or anything like that and then after the game someone would be like oh did you see this guy like streak across the field in the fifth inning like i had no idea i had no recollection of that are you kidding now show me the video I'm like I don't know where I was I don't I didn't see that at all uh so yeah or like did you hear this guy yelling at you in the stands did you see this sign over the dugout no I didn't see any of that uh because I was you know locked in and there's other times where I'm like sitting there with

teammates I'm talking about I'm like oh yeah did you see this like there's this guy in the stands above the dugout like when I'm pitching and I think in my head, I'm like, Oh, that ain't good. Today's probably not the day coach. All right. We're not mentally here. We got some people, uh, those conversations when they come out to talk to you, what's going on here. They just trying to slow you down, give you a breath. Like what are those conversations normally like? I've never been a part of one, obviously. Yeah. Yeah. So it's, uh, a lot of it is not technical.

I think most people think that they're coming out there to give you advice, mechanical advice, you know, obviously. Yeah. Yeah. So it's a lot of it is not technical. I think most people think that they're coming out there to give you advice, mechanical advice, you know, whatever like that. It's not that it's a, Hey, go ahead and take a breath. We're going to try to get ahead of this guy. You know, what do you want to do right here? Let's just get on the same page with the catcher. Most of it is just to break the rhythm just to get some sort of like, you know, cause things are kind of spiraling. And so you just stop it and try to break things and see if it gets back on a better track. I got a great story of one of these things. Here we go. Hey, here we go. We like great stories.

So a pitching coach that I'm close with, I won't, I won't name his name just to keep him out of it, but he's got a rookie pitcher on the mound. Who's like spiraling, you know, bases loaded one out, just walked like four guys in a row he walked in a run so the guy you know pitching coach like man i don't i don't know this guy at all it's his first start first time i met him i don't know what to tell the guy like the manager's like hey go talk to him and he's like man what do i do so he walks out to the, whole time thinking about what am I going to say? And he goes, hey, kid, I really got to do a number two right now. And I can't leave the dugout until you get out of this,

so I don't really want to crap my pants. So I need you to get a double play right here and get out of this. And he turns around, like, pinches his butt together and, like, waddles back in the dugout. And, like, two pitches later, theaddle back and like two pitches later the guy rolls over and double play and guy gets out of it and manager's like hey what'd you say to him he's like hey you don't you don't want to know but that's the type of stuff that goes on out there just something to like break the the rhythm and yeah because the pitchers out there just spinning

he's in his own head he's thinking you know so you make him laugh a little bit and it just resets everything those double plays and things like that you can throw for those i've been learning i didn't even know that that is that is an actual strategy if you throw it at this particular place good chance it's going to roll into a double play and that is your your favorite you i watched on the live at bats whenever uh khali was just um he was murdering you at the beginning of that thing you said uh you said all right I'm gonna go to my curveball normally I go to my curveball when everything's kind of falling apart and then you got him a couple times do you have that pitch that's sitting in the back like

all right it seems to be going out of control here let's go to our bread and butter and let's feed it and do batters know that that's coming and does that kind of set you into an interesting standpoint there yeah for sure um for me to lefties for sure it's my curveball i've been throwing my curveball since i was 10 years old so i have you know 18 or 19 i guess 19 years now of throwing it so it's my most trusted off-speed pitch uh and so when i get into a jam it's like all right this is my best off-speed pitch my most trusted one and i'm just gonna throw it and if you beat me on my best pitch like that's fine because that's all i got right now and i can tell the hitter hey he probably knows all curve balls are coming. Uh, and it's just a matter of like,

you know, is my curve ball better in this situation than your ability to hit it? Uh, and so at the end of the day, that just becomes like a last stand mentality. Like, okay, I'm, I'm gassed. I got nothing left. Like I'm going with this and you're going to, you're going to go with that, what you got, and we're going to see who wins type of thing so yeah i definitely i definitely fall into those categories sometimes when i um when i played that baseball for the washington wild things that pitcher obviously knew that i had never played baseball before it was a little bit of a marketing ploy there was people all over the place for it and i was told by every baseball player it was like he's only gonna throw you the fastball because if he throws you anything else everybody in the baseball community will mock him

if his fastball can't beat a guy that's never played baseball before you should not be on the mound is that an accurate assessment and why did he throw me a fucking curveball just to be a dick i think yeah yeah um no i think i think it's true but the fastball is definitely the easiest pitch to hit uh for the for theated, for the people who haven't played a ton. I mean, for the vast majority of big leaguers, all you see is a fastball. You don't see things that are moving coming at you because any time someone throws something at you, it has a fastball trajectory.

Every time you play baseball as a kid, you play catch. So you just see this flat fastball trajectory the entire time. It's the fastest pitch, so it beats bat speed a lot. But it's also, in my opinion, the easiest one to line up and to hit. So there's different ways of looking at it. I mean, if I faced you in live A-Bs, I'll probably just throw you all fastballs, and we'll see what happens. I'm batting from the wrong side of the plate this entire time against this guy.

I couldn't even fathom what I'm going to do from the left side. You saw what I did to a TV. I'll tell you what's coming. We'll line it up. My fastball has a good track record of finding the barrel. So you have a pretty good chance here, I think. How many years

have you been playing in the big leagues? I made my debut in 2012. I've been up since the middle of 2014 consistently. Congratulations. Not easy, especially in the baseball world. What was it like coming up, like through the minors and everything like that? Because they say the big thing for hitters is you can do well in the minors, but once you get to the majors, if you can't hit a curveball, you're done for. For a pitcher, what was it like in the minors, like kind of finding your way,

and how long were you down there before you got called up? in the minors like kind of finding your way and how long were you down there before you got called up so i was down in 2000 got drafted in 2011 i spent two months down in the minor leagues and i spent two months in the beginning of 2012 so i was four months before i made my debut uh which is super fast i was the first yeah i was the first person from my draft class to to make it to the big leagues um and then i sucked stick taps for the guys stick taps for the that's hockey uh big hockey fan over here so i'm aware okay um but yeah i made it i made my debut i was up for 20 days and i sucked there we go hey you got any bauer sticks nah ccm only cuz okay Is that your family? No.

Same name, so. But yeah, when I went back down, the biggest thing is in the minor leagues, I can get guys to swing at my curveball out of the zone, high fastballs. They swing a lot more of their undisciplined hitters. When I get to the big leagues, guys just – they realize I didn't throw a lot of strikes, so they just took, and I walked a lot of people. And then when I would have to throw a strike, they'd hit it, and i didn't throw a lot of strikes so they just took and i walked a lot of people and then when i would have to throw a strike they'd hit it and i'd give up a lot of runs so for me it was the consistency of like how do i get guys out in in

the zone instead of getting guys to chase and something i couldn't really learn in the minor leagues because guys were chasing uh so that was the dominant strategy but it flips completely when you get to the big leagues yeah trevor so you you were in the al for most of your career and then when you come to the no and you have to Trevor, so you were in the AL for most of your career, and then when you come to the NL and you have to bat for the first time, are pitchers just throwing you fastballs? What's your mentality being a hitter for the first time in your career? Yeah, so something that everyone should know, I used to joke with my dad when I was eight years old

and I was still hitting that I was in an eight-year slump. And, yeah, I couldn't hit little league pitching. I was made a defensive replacement my freshman year in high school and then by my sophomore year i was a pitcher only so my time in the box has not been very productive for me and i generally don't like doing things i'm not good at so i hate hitting i absolutely loathe it um how come you guys suck at it how can how why do pitchers suck at it for in in my eyes, it would be something like, for instance, and it's much different scenario here, but like, I feel I could catch a punt better than most partners. Cause I know what the ball is going to do.

Does that not carry over for you? Like, does that not help? I got apparently not. No, it does. It does. I know exactly what the ball is going to do. And I know exactly what the pitcher is going to try to do to me. I can follow along with the sequence. I understand what's coming. It's just, I haven't spent nearly enough time actually doing the reps to be able to

hit it. Like I know a fastball is coming and I'm just swinging a fastball and I'm just going to like miss it or break my bat, probably my hands, you know, I don't know. Uh, probably just haven't spent enough time in the box and also my swing is terrible my swing mechanics are just worse or better than mine is it worse or better than mine probably worse yeah i think so homer homer homer that one's gone maybe you should think about walking through the box what you're a righty i'd assume yeah maybe do like that beer league softball start in the back and then just kind of walk up to it. You know what I mean? Happy Gilmore

I'm just trying to help you out here. I'm a big-time hitter. You know, I mean, yeah I need I need all the advice I can get so is it because of the lack of reps though That is a hundred percent what it is that's why pitchers normally suck at hitting because why because that That's a wasted rep on your arm or your body when he could potentially be resting? Or what is it? I just think that it's the time investment. Over the course of 20 years when you're growing up, you throw a lot.

And so pitchers, they start specializing. They throw bullpens. They pitch. They don't spend as much time in the box or getting those at-bats in the game. And it's really hard to specialize in two things. I imagine specializing as a quarterback and as a punter. They're two very different skills. So if you want to be elite at being a punter,

you can't be spending half your time trying to be elite being a quarterback. There's some people that can do it. Michael Lorenzen is one that jumps to mind. But he didn't start pitching until in college. he spent his entire life you know being a hitter and then because he was really athletic and he was really strong he threw really hard and so then he adapted that to the mound i think it's a lot easier to go from being a hitter to being a pitcher than it is from being a pitcher to being a hitter that's awesome that's great insight i feel like i just learned a lot

because I didn't grow up in a baseball community. So I was always confused. I'm like, these pitchers, you know what's coming. What happens? Well, it takes a lot of work to get there. I saw a video, I think, of you standing on a mound and then turning around and throwing the baseball out of the stadium.

We need to see more of that. Hey, I've talked to a lot of pitchers over my time in the league and in baseball in general, and everybody at some point in their career has wanted to do that. Everyone's been there. They've been super frustrated about everything that's going on in the game. It's a day where I'm not feeling good at all, and nothing goes my way, and you're just stranded out there. Everyone's looking at you, and you're like, I got, it's a day where I'm not feeling good at all and nothing goes my way. And you're just stranded out there.

Everyone's looking at you and you're like, I got nothing. And this sucks. And everyone's been there. That's just, I, I actually did it. So I'll be the one that goes down as the immature one. But, uh, yeah, I've been, I've been there multiple times where I've wanted to, and finally just snapped and did it. Did you get drafted out of high school or did you go to college?

No. So I actually, I graduated high school half a year early, so I didn't even play my senior season. I played my freshman year of college in what would have been my senior season of high school. Oh, my God. So you had to be just phenom. If you were the fastest up and you seemed to be the youngest in the draft class, you were phenom coming out, I assume.

Where from? Valencia, California, Los Angeles area, the youngest in the draft class you were phenom coming out i assume where from uh valencia california um los angeles area and then out of ucla jeez man so yeah i uh how fast i got throwing a ball what do you get to what did you get did you lose speed as you get older or do you gain speed as you become like a man all right the vast majority of people in the big leagues lose velocity as their career goes along. And I think it's because they just stopped trying to throw hard. I've actually gained velocity or at least. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. It was ticking up until last year. I was hurt a good amount of last year. And so my velocity dropped like 0.3 miles an hour or something for the first time in four years that's probably the gun probably the gun if i had to guess it's not you have you had the tommy on already nope trying to avoid that one yeah it sounds like one you should think about but doesn't your arm get faster stronger like henry rowan gardner on the other side of that thing hey there's actually you know i don't want to minimize what what guys go through in tommy

john so it's important to say first the recovery sucks and it's never fun to be hurt. And like mentally, it's extremely draining just being going in and doing the same thing over and over for nine months, 12 months, sometimes as long as 15 or 18 months. So that sucks. Theoretically speaking, though, from a physics standpoint yeah you can throw harder if you have a stronger ligament if you organize your body in such a way to make use of that so some guys come back and throw harder

some guys come back and throw slower some guys never get back it's just kind of a mixed bag but yeah there's not the Henry Rowan Gardner thing is not not completely far fetched I guess there's there's some argument to be made that that could be a thing well i was about to say please do not ruin that please do not ruin rowing guard ben roethlisberger got that surgery uh quarterback for the steelers

he got tommy john not normal for our sport nobody knows what's going to happen on the other side of this thing yeah is he going through that right now yeah he's on the other side he's been throwing though so they're thinking he's back but the tommy john thing just like all surgeries by the way rehab is a pain in the ass but with tommy john especially at his age nobody had a clue what was going to happen other than so once he started throwing footballs again a lot of pittsburgers started breathing a sigh of relief but nobody knows what's going to happen on the other side of it yeah Yeah, it's tough, especially when you get older too. When you have surgery when you're young and you're still growing, I mean the hormone levels are still up, you're still becoming a man,

you heal better, you heal faster, you heal stronger, stuff like that. When you get on the other end of it, which is I'm starting to get towards that downhill slope myself, but you don't heal nearly as fast, you don't recover nearly as fast. You don't recover nearly as fast. The tissue you rebuild in surgery and stuff may not be the highest quality. So there's a lot of concerns outside of just the normal, like, hey, it's a surgery. It's unknown regardless of how effective it is overall. You just don't know. When you get put under anesthesia, when you get cut open, you have no idea how your body's going to respond. So

lots of concerns there for sure. All right. So before we get out of here, uh, I might pitch in my next game. I've decided I've never pitched before. It is the curve ball. We just sit up here on this one right here. Don't we? Huh? That's what we do. Yeah. So think about, uh, I'll give you a quick little tip. If you think about throwing a football and, uh, your hands on the side of the ball right yeah so you want to keep this whole line very stiff a lot of people think that you want to curl your wrist or like snap your wrist or something like that yeah no no you keep this very very stiff and you just drive that hand forward and at some point your fingers get in front of the ball yep and then that's how the curveball spins okay so when I'm about to throw a curveball,

if I'm playing against a team, let's assume it's in, I don't know, AAA probably is where I'll end up next. Oh, yeah. Playing the Frontier League. Maybe the Majors. He can't rule it out. He said 5% chance that they don't play. They might need replacement players.

I'll be Shane Falco out there. You know what I'm talking about. So if I'm going to go throw the curveball and I hear the other team banging on drums to signify that i'm about to throw a curveball what should my immediate reaction be there uh you should throw it anyway uh and you just make it good enough that they can't hit it i think i think with this tip here you know i think they're gonna be in trouble anyway what was your thoughts on that entire thing that was wild that was why it's forgotten about at this point, because we've had Tiger King.

We've had we've had the last dance. We've had Armstrong jet passing. We've had Lance. I mean, we've we have had a lot of things happen since then. But the Astros, that was a big deal, especially for pitchers. I'd assume like, hey, did you feel like after that and you found out about that, did you think, oh, that was possible teams were doing that type of thing? Or was that kind of blown out of proportion?

Or were you pissed about that thing, which I would assume you'd be completely okay to be? I knew about it from like 2017 on. Baseball is a small circle of people. People talk. I heard things. I knew things that were going on. So it didn't surprise me at all. I was happy that it finally came to light because a lot of the things that I'd been talking about in regards to that situation, I'd been ridiculed for.

And so when it finally became public, everyone was like, oh, shoot, maybe Bauer's not this crazy guy after all. Maybe he knew what he was talking about. Oh, they thought you were like conspiracy theory guy. They thought you were like conspiracy theorist what were you saying yeah for sure i just i accused them of cheating um in like 2018 i believe um and then in the after the 2018 postseason uh you know they had it we played them in 2018 in the postseason they had someone in our camera while like with a camera phone filming our dugout and i was like in my head i was like if they're if they're that out in the open with that you know what do they actually care

about hiding uh and you know this is the the stuff with the cameras the computer vision algorithms the the code breaker system the potential of buzzers the banging on the trash can like all this different stuff that i've heard i was like okay well that's that's you know what they're doing so every time we went and faced the Astros, going into 2018, we had an hour meeting before the series about how we were going to relay signs from the catcher to the pitcher. And after that hour meeting, we still did not have a good system that we thought could beat what they were doing.

And then after that series, guys like Clevenger got a lot of heat for it. He came out and said he wanted to say everything that we knew, but knew that he couldn't say it right then because it would just be looked at as being like bitter so he says you know he kind of bites his tongue in the interview and says that oh you know we were outclassed analytically um and great words yeah and so then he got a lot of heat internally from the cleveland staff like why are you throwing under throwing us under the bus we were super prepared he's like no i wasn't talking about that at all. I was talking about the fact that they're cheating. They're going over the line.

And we chose not to do that. We chose to play by the rules. And then so we were outclassed in the data analytics space because they have these algorithms and stuff. But he couldn't say any of that stuff. And so when it finally came out, it was like two or three years of just built up frustration about not being able to say

something and then finally just unleash like all right they're gonna get what they what they deserve they'll be known as cheaters and i'll make sure that they're not going to be forgotten or that that fact is not going to be forgotten were you guys thinking about throwing at them a lot of the thought was the pitchers are just going to throw and peg them and everything like that like that's the sanctity of baseball like hey you screw us over don't worry we got an answer for you as well was that a thought for you guys yeah absolutely i mean i think it's justified to have that be a thought for certain pitchers that's not my thought personally i think nothing that happens on a baseball field is serious enough to risk life or death and at 90 miles an hour 95 miles an hour you

hit someone in the head there's i mean you watch pitchers get hit in the head and some guys you know on the brink of dying don don't ever come back, career ending. It's not worth that. So I wasn't going to do it. I'm just going to make sure that the public ridicule doesn't go away. It's now part of pop culture. And so just casually reminding people that Houston cheated in 2017 and that the World Series is an illegitimate title, I think is fair play now.

Just like when Cleveland blew a 3-1 lead in the World Series, everyone jumped on board with, oh, you blew a 3-1 lead. It's part of pop culture. So that'll be part of baseball lore for a long time, and I think it's well-deserved. But the physical side of things and hitting people, personally, I'm not about that. I mean, what would you do with it?

Would you take away their piece of metal? Yeah, just a piece of – the funniest part about that comment is it literally is the commissioner's trophy. That's what it's called. It's your award, pal. It's named after you, buddy. Have a little respect. I don't know. I don't know how you can not take that away at least,

or at least, you know, strip them of it. Maybe you don't take the physical piece back, but you just at least strip them of it in the record book or something. And it's, it's been, it's proven that they cheated that entire year.

Like, I don't understand. If I knew, if I knew what pitch was coming and I had technique, I had figured out the technique of getting my hip, how big of an advantage that's massive advantage, huh? That's just huge. getting my hip. How big of an advantage? That's a massive advantage, huh? That's just huge. It's huge. Yeah. I mean, if you look in spring training, the biggest indicator of this is every spring training pitchers come out and they throw live

batting practice to their hitters before games start. Right. And if you look at all those fields, there's a net in front of the pitchers because the hitters know what's coming and the pitchers are signaling, they're throwing a bullpen and hitters are just standing there swinging to like see some pitches coming because i haven't seen pitches in three or four months it's dangerous so they put a net in front of the pitchers so the pitchers don't take line drives and get hit and yet now in the in the game you have hitters at the highest level of competition that know what's coming and the pitchers don't know that they know what's coming you you know? So it's like. They're just taking BP in the World Series. They're just taking BP in the World Series, basically.

Yeah, basically. They're cheaters. They're cheaters. Houston Astros, cheaters, 2017, a bunch of BS. Take that piece of metal back. Yeah, I'm on board with that. All right, big guy. You got anything for him, Diggs?

Yeah, I was going to ask about the. Hold on, hold on, Diggs. Ty, this guy, we have a guy. His name is ty schmidt here got accepted into harvard okay said nah didn't go to harvard because he wanted to play baseball at iowa okay this guy's name's ty ty go ahead just guys yeah go hawks baby uh just curious what's your uh what's your favorite park to pitch in favorite park to pitch in man i love seattle to pitch in? Favorite park to pitch in? Man, I love Seattle, partially because it's one of my top three ballparks just visually. I think it's a fantastic ballpark, but it's also, the air is

really dense and it plays really big, so it's hard to hit homers out of there. So it's a good pitchers park. I haven't played in Petco yet. I know that's a beautiful one. I've been there multiple times, but I would probably have to say Seattle is my favorite park to pitch in The Braves Park and Pittsburgh Are gorgeous as well Pittsburgh State I mean, I'm from Pittsburgh The Pirates just stink so bad

Does everybody in baseball know Like, hey, they're not going to spend Any money on anybody Don't go there It's a wasteland Yeah, pretty much Hey, Tucker Barnhart's our guy Love that man I love Tuck It's a wasteland. Yeah, pretty much. Hey, Tucker Barnhart's our guy.

Love that man. I love Tuck. I love Tuck. Yeah, I'm looking forward to getting back around to everybody so we can hang out. We've got some good conversations to go on. I love that guy. When are things starting back up for you guys? This weekend, just hang out? I don't know about workouts and stuff like that.

When do you guys expect? I mean, it all depends on this deal, I guess. But do you guys have something laid out? Like, hey, we'll start getting back into it a little bit here and there. Yeah. So, uh, the facilities have slowly been opening back up, uh, which is good. So I think, um, I think great American is open. I saw some pictures coming from guys that are in great American ballpark and since the, I know the facility out here in good years been open in a limited capacity. So right now everyone's kind of scattered. They're back home with their families.

And so guys are figuring out, okay, are we going to go to sensi we're going to be there you know when are we going to do that are we going to go back out to the arizona is that where you know spring training version two is going to take place everyone's starting to kind of get this machine churning and figure out the logistics of where we need to be and when because we anticipate over the next couple weeks that we'll have an agreement in place and that you know it'll be time to start getting ready for a season trevor i can't thank you enough for joining us brother you stayed here way too long you didn't have to do that the fact that you did i appreciate it am i getting my leg all the way up here how high am i going with my leg when i'm pitching here hey you know it's just

as high as you want some guys know when ryan kicks himself in the face every time he does it some guys just slide step so it's all stylistic I like that, that looks good Yeah, I think I'm going to have to do a lot of distracting Before the ball is pitched if I have a chance So I'm going to do a lot of that shit, you know what I mean? I love it Hey, we'll get you out here in the desert

I'll face you in the box And you can get on the mound And I'll face you as a header We'll see who comes out on top When I go out there, Trevor issue as a header. We'll see who comes out on top. When I go out there, Trevor, and I put these sons of bitches on, the BGs I've learned is what they're called.

Cleverly batting gloves. When these go on, the game's stopped, Trevor. You might think I'm Mr. Friendly Guy. Wait until I'm out there. Wait until I'm out there I'm good natured in interviews but I step on the mound it's a completely different piece so we'll match each other

I'd be a first for me live at bats go watch it on youtube it is awesome it's fascinating it is they got great angles i've never seen pitchers go full go not in a game it was awesome you're in shorts and a t-shirt the batter's trying to i mean it was it's a very very very good idea i appreciate you doing that you can learn a lot about the baseball too yeah no it's a lot of fun highly encourage people to check it out just guys out there having fun playing the game and being themselves and at a future date when everything's slowed down here with the whole you know virus i'm hitting dingers out there yeah i can't wait for that that's gonna be that be a riot. Ladies and gentlemen, at Bauer Outage, legend Trevor Bauer. Yeah!

Trevor! Hey, thanks, man. I appreciate the hell out of you. Yeah, thanks for having me on. It's been great. Thanks for staying so long. How long has it been? It seems like only five minutes.

Yeah, I see it. That's good. That's a great compliment. You know, that's a great compliment. You know, that's a great compliment. That's what we're trying to do, you know, make you comfortable, make you happy. But that was good stuff. That was really good baseball talk.

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I bet you the swag is next level for the Florida Gator football team. Well, it is. i have uh i have a pretty good i have a pretty strong shoe game to be honest with you the uh i got all kinds of jordan's i got the custom gator jordan we got we got a bunch and uh hey you got to take advantage of it when you can get it right uh i think you've accomplished a lot so you deserve it you're helping out jordan as well selling down there with the Gator football team let's talk about the current state of events that we're in whenever I talked about the passing of George Floyd or any race relations issues in the past I always said that coming from Plumboro where I was from which is a lower middle class majority white community

and then I go into the locker room at West Virginia University I got a chance to meet guys from Compton I got a chance to meet guys from all over the world. And once you get a chance to kind of meet these people and put a face to causes and come together and go for one, I always said that a football locker room is a place, a melting pot that I wish could venture into the real world. I wish that somehow the locker room could go into America. Now, you are in a very important time here in talking to your team, messaging to your team in the world that we're in.

How have you been handling that with your squad? And what has your message been to your team? Well, I think one thing, I think with a lot of the things for our guys, as you said, I think it is a unique deal because our guys have a feel. I think when you're in that locker room, when you're around all the different guys, it is different. I wish some of that would – more of that would get out into society, you know, that feeling, that togetherness, that teamness. But I know for our guys, I think one big challenge is when you look at respecting the respect of people, challenge is when you look at respecting the respect of people, where you don't always, you know, you can't put yourselves in other people's shoes and know how they feel, know how they think,

know how it is. But I think it's important to respect other people in that way. You know, it's important to respect what it must be like to go through that and have that respect for other people. Don't try to assume I know what's best for you or you know what's best for me. And I know what it must be like to walk in your shoes. One of the things we talked about the other day was that it's just is having the respect of the communicate and respect other people's thoughts, ideas. You know, their're religious backgrounds when you get in a team when you when you get in that that locker room guys come from different racial backgrounds socio-economic backgrounds religious backgrounds you know and but

everybody kind of respects us respects each other respects the work that they do respects the work that they put in, respects their contribution to the team. And as we get in this society, that we can respect other people. I think that is such an important thing. Don't try to assume something from somebody else. Just respect their background, respect who they are, and really try to bring love and caring into the community. I think that is it. When you can have that respect to people and that love for other people, it's going to go a long way. It's a special place, that locker room. And I think the reason why the bonding happens is because you go through

things together. You're going through workouts at 6 a.m. together. You're going through conditioning that's miserable. You're going through training camp. You're going through the highs, the lows of a football season together. And I think America went through something together in the coronavirus quarantine. That's why I think the response to the George Floyd murder was everybody was on the same side because we were kind of like all in this thing together. And then obviously the riots and violence took a different direction. But I think we're in a better place than we've been. And I think we're closer to real change for real equality for everybody than we've ever been now let's talk about you speaking of the coronavirus in the quarantine and now protests and riots and the world being upside down this is not an easy time

to be a football coach this is not an easy time to build a team i'd assume how have you guys been handling has been zoom calls what has been the thought process going through this all well you know we we've done a lot. As a coach, you're trying to mix things up, keeping everybody engaged, keeping everybody focused on our goal of trying to become a better football team. We've done it. We've had a lot

of it. We've done all the Zoom meetings that have been out there. When you come in and you do a Zoom team meeting, we've had a lot of different guest speakers come from different walks of life to try to, you know, I mean, mix it up and give some different advice, give some different things of how guys have succeeded in their career, how to manage your career, how to manage life beyond football.

Motivational speakers, all kinds of different things, and then a lot of football meetings. You know, we're pretty fortunate. Our guys, starting on Monday on we're pretty fortunate our guys on starting on monday on june 8th our guys can come back for voluntary workouts here we go here we go i like that you know and and hey we don't have everybody coming back and i'm great with that you know i mean guys are kind of in a routine at home they're in it in it they feel comfortable with their settings they feel they're going to be able to take care of themselves there. You know, even though we can come back and have

voluntary workouts, we're still going to be in virtual meetings and Zoom meetings that we're using. And so for us, you know, hopefully it continues to progress in that direction. I think anytime, you know, one of the things is there is so much change going on and change is very uncomfortable for people, you know, and then, you know that that's one thing that is hard is change is uncomfortable for a lot of people and when you know we're changing that and not not the the social aspect of everything trying to change this football right now you know we we didn't have spring practice we're not back as a team going through summer conditioning as a whole team together right now so it is going to be a great deal of change for us football-wise getting back together.

And, you know, ours is, you know, when you handle this, everything that's going on with the coronavirus right now is a work. It's an adversity you're dealing with. And it's an adversity, hopefully, that we attack head on and we get better. And, you know, anytime you handle your face with adversity, you have an opportunity to get better. Yeah. And hopefully we're a team that has handled adversity as well or better than any other team out there.

And if that's the case, when we do kick off, you know, hopefully in the fall, that foot hits the ball. We've dealt with adversities as a team. We've found a way to get strong. We've found a way to continue to get better. And we handle adversity in a better way. And we come out ready to go play football when we get get on the field what have you been hearing about the return to football there's always the ohio state guy came out and he said we think we can have 25 and then

the saints came out and said 13 000 and in texas was like you can have 25 capacity in the stadiums i don't think anybody has a clue so i think there's been a lot of things thrown at the wall what have you been hearing what are the realistic expectations you think for when the football games will start back up on time or not? Well, I certainly hope that we're going to start up on time. I think the one thing we have to do is look and say, OK, you know, as it pertains to the football scheduling and where we're at, we're three months away from kickoff. OK, the beginning of june so if you go back to the beginning of march um you know as far as where we are with this pandemic the world we were in a much different place here in the united states march 1st than we are today uh so for me to say this

is where we're going to be september 1st i think it's really irresponsible you know i i think um you know one of the things we can do, and I think people are going to come out of this. I think, you know, the first month, everyone, yeah, didn't handle it the right way. Then we get into learning how to grow, learning how to social distance, learning how to, you know, I mean, to wear my gator mask walking around. Oh, that's a good master.

Oh. Smart. But I think we're a lot more responsible about things and how to deal with this and how to deal with the change that's going on. So, you know, to sit there and say, hey, September 1st, we're going to have this percentage of people in the stands. We're going to start the season on this day exactly right now. That's so far off into the future.

I think what we have to do is continue our responsibility to continue to progress in the right direction. Here in Florida, our governor did a great job. The state reopened. I think people have reopened in a very responsible manner. You're seeing people outside a lot more kind of getting back to the new normal of life, if you will. And you haven't seen a huge spike spiky cases so i think our governor our university president administration have done a good job and we continue to take these small steps forward and if we can continue to take the small steps forward continue to grow

continue to get back to life as normal well i i'm interested to see where we're going to be a month from now i'm interested you know we're at a different place today than we were a month ago i think we all hey by the way i want to see where we're going to keep going and as long as we're going to be a month from now i'm interested you know we're at a different place today than we were a month ago i think we all hey by the way i want to see where we're going to keep going and as long as we're responsible and i don't see why we can't start football on time and hopefully have fans in the stands yeah i think that's a very smart way to look at it adam silver the nba he was the first commissioner to come out and say i'm not giving any real timetable until at least june because there was a lot of predictions being made at certain times and they were both gloom doom and like yeah we'll be able to do it and then two days later we

get a whole new thing and we live in a very i don't know question mark future world right now nobody knows that's the right way to look at it but as a football coach you've had a lot of success with a lot of quarterbacks alex smith dac prescott tim tebow whenever you're by like shout out tim tebow shout out tim tebow we're a big tim tebow show around here dan but the um what has it been like working with your players you can't really change much i'd assume in this zoom meeting right it's just got to be like kind of driving home the things that they already know hopefully is that have you changed any tactics tactics and changed anything in the offseason here? You know, I mean, what you work on is, you know,

one of the big things when this all started, we talked to our guys, is don't worry about what you can't worry. You know, don't spend all this time worrying about what we can't do. Let's worry about what we can do and how to get better in those things. You know, I mean, everything you said there, and I know, hey, it's hard. It's human nature. I mean, as a coach, you know, I'm frustrated because, I mean, everything you said there, and I know, hey, it's hard. It's human nature. I mean, as a coach, you know, I'm frustrated. We're very detailed.

I like my schedule. I like to know, okay, tell me what I'm going to do in July and August. I'm going to have it detailed and exact. But you can't worry about that right now. You have to worry about the things you can control and get better. So, you know, we had a meeting this morning with our staff and said, okay, hey, we've gone through the installation. We've gone through cut-ups.

We've watched the video. You know, now it's our guys are teaching each other. Now, hey, I want to hear you as a player teach me. How are we building the knowledge within the game? How are you building your knowledge as a player right now? Because it's hard. I can't get out there and technically teach you. I'm not worried about, well, you know, it's hard i can't get out there and technically teach you i'm not you know i'm not worried about well you know it's hard for me to get out there show you weight transition and

technically do a lot of fundamentals and technique but we certainly can work the brain and the knowledge and processing of information and um you know so we're finding different ways to try to do that have our guys process information learn faster learn quicker uh see it and recognize it and train the brain as best we can because that's one of the things we certainly can work on in meetings right now in between the years is the most important place on earth literally you're either going to make it or you're not you're a specialist so there's only so many times i can go through you know i mean kick the ball between the uprights on the video right you know what i'm saying i mean

the scheme for place kickers isn't quite as huge. I mean, those guys, I'm like, you know, I have them making stupid videos of each other and kind of trying to keep themselves abused because there's only so much I can do with those guys. But, you know, the quarterbacks, it's a different deal. You know, I mean, I'd tell our long snapper, you know, you've got about four or five different punt schemes.

I mean, catch the, our long snapper, you know, you've got about four or five different punt schemes. I mean, catch the punter. We're punting right. We're punting middle. We're punting left. Take it easy. Hey, that is hard. That is hard to understand, Coach. I mean, that is difficult stuff to pick up.

I've always said punters and kickers don't get enough respect for the playbook diligence. We know our plays inside and out better than anybody else on the roster i mean those guys if they make them a i look at the guys sometimes you know shake my stress i'm like i'm like i got i got guys in special teams meeting that actually have to play another position maybe play multiple positions and then come into the special teams meeting and need to know the scheme. You know, I'm not asking you, you know, as a long snapper, hey, snap and set left and

then cover and you're, you know, your nose up or you're a five-yard landmark. That's not that complicated, you know, sometimes, checking protections and reading coverage. I didn't know you hated specialist, coach. I didn't know. I would have started this conversation a lot different. I didn't know you hated specialist coach. I would have started this conversation a lot different. I didn't know that, Dan. I'm a specialist lover. I spend my time with those guys, but

life's pretty good to be a specialist, isn't it? It's great, until you miss. I will say that. There is nobody that you sit there as the quarterback, you miss. It's great. I will say that. Hey, there is nobody that you – I mean, you sit there as the quarterbacks. Hey, you miss a block. You come back and play the next play. They kind of forget about the interception you threw in the first quarter

if you leave us down the drive on a two-minute trip, right? But I'm going to tell you what. You walk out there and you kick that game-winning field goal against Florida State or Georgia or Tennessee this year that's kind of a major impact on your social life for the next couple years either good either good or the complete worst way possible coach uh I assume you guys are going to go undefeated this year yeah undefeated you know what i look at it i don't i don't i when i look at our schedule every year i assume we are i don't know i mean i guess it is like i mean if i looked at it that way and said hey boy i don't see us winning that game i guess i'd tell the coaches hey why don't

you guys go home i mean we're not gonna win this one anyway so if, this time of year, you assume you're going undefeated every year. I plan on winning every game we play. You're the best. We've got to get out of here for radio. We'll see you on the other side. Hold on one second, Dan. We'll see you tomorrow, radio. You're the best humans on earth.

Thanks for listening. All right, now we're on YouTube, Dan. All right, you could swear, by the way. I don't know if you're holding back any swears now. We're not FCC regulated. That is something to think about, though. Like, Joe Flacco will get asked, do you think you're holding back any uh any swears now we're not fcc regulated that is something to think about though like joe flacco will get asked do you think you're an elite quarterback and at that point joe flacco is the starting quarterback for the baltimore ravens what is he supposed to say no i am not an elite quarterback and people are like oh joe has no

confidence can't be a quarterback and then somebody will say do you think you're going to win this weekend and you're on a team that is busting your ass. And they go, yeah, I think it's your win. Well, he's guaranteeing a win. What are you supposed to think? Well, you know what? Hey, if we don't say stuff like that, nobody has anything to talk about all day. True. Yeah, we appreciate that.

But it is. You know, I want our guys. You know, I think people have to understand there's a big difference between confidence and cockiness. You know, I think when you sit there and you say, hey, you know, hey, I mean, we expect to win the game this weekend. That's not cockiness. That's your confidence in, hey, I'm going to work hard.

I'm going to prepare the right way. You know, when you say there's big differences, hey, coach, you know, I expect us to go undefeated this year. I'm not guaranteeing it because I'll be honest with you. I have two national championship, you know, ranks. And we didn't go undefeated in either of those two seasons, you know, and we still won national championship. So, you know, your expectations, you know, are very different maybe than being cocky. And when guys come out, they say, I certainly don't want a quarterback that doesn't think he's an elite quarterback. I don't want a quarterback that doesn't think he doesn't expect he's going to win the game.

Those are the guys that you want on your team. You know, I mean, we all saw, you know, I'm sure everybody watched the Jordan special. And it was either episode six or seven. That last two minutes. Don't play that way. I think there's probably a lot of people maybe that were even offended by that. When he said, hey, there's a price for winning as a competitor and somebody involved in sports at an extremely high level.

I mean, that defines who we are and what we do and there and people that are you know that are offended by it hey that's you i i feel you but that's probably why you're not that a high-end competitive athlete you know because i didn't i thought that was one of the greatest things i've ever heard you know did you hear jordan did you hear jordan say well that's you you're probably a loser basically that's what he said like it was a real statement though it's like hey there is a sacrifice that you have to make and there is a mindset you have to make to be great at anything and i think if you look around at all the greats the one trait that they all have in common is they

work their asses off that is a people that can work their asses off is a high part of that trait. And I think Jordan was an exceptional worker. It was a special show. And one of the things I respect, and I talked about our coaching staff about it, I can't come with that approach every day because I'm responsible for everybody on our team, if that makes sense to a point. You know, I can't come at a win at all costs. I'm responsible for the development of young people in their lives, right?

And if you look at one of the things that works so well between, you know, I think the Phil Jackson and the Jordan is, Phil Jackson, you want, I want Jordans on my team. You know, I want those guys, you know? But then as a coach, your job is to manage the team and make sure and balance everybody within that organization. I want that guy that is going to go out there and I mean, is it wants to win Savage. And then my job as a coach is to make sure, hey, that we're balancing everybody to do it the right way.

You know, and I think that's what that that's what was so great. But I mean, tell me, you know, I saw that and I'm like, hey, I want guys. I want a guy to sit in my office when I'm getting ready to recruit him. I want him to say what Jordan was saying then to me, and I'm saying, hey, we want you to be a Gator. That's who I want. I want a team of those guys, those ultimate competitors. How has this affected recruiting?

I'd assume this has been quite a wild time in recruiting, a lot more FaceTimes, I'd assume, and stuff of that nature. Is that accurate? I think it is. I think it's gone a little bit crazy in recruiting. One of our guys said, I think there are over double the number of commitments now than there were this time last year.

And I don't know that that's a healthy thing, because guys can't get to campus. They can't have this exposure. Guys, people are, you know, I think there's, you know, everybody's worried about all the different things and how this is going to play out. And that nervousness, instead of going through recruiting and said, Hey, I got to know the coaches, built the relationship, came to campus. I have a great feel. I'm comfortable with that environment. I want to play for this coach. We're now doing virtual tours. We're flying around

campus on virtual Google Maps and other stuff. Hey, let's go over to this building and virtually talk to these people. I think it's kind of... Who's got the best drone game? Who's got the best drone game in the recruiting?

And then you go into the school, and then you talk to the professor. The ability to adapt there, that all had to happen rather quickly, I'd assume, Coach, huh? It has been very different. I say that. It has been very, very different. And, you know, for the guys. So it's just a different experience.

It's been a little bit crazy. And then, you know, I mean, you're, you're on the phone a lot more probably because guys have more time on their hands, but you know, that's just the reality of it right now within recruiting. Last question before I let you go and you're staying overtime. So I think you probably have stuff going on here. Transfer portal. You've been around college football a long time, national champion twice. You've been in and out this transfer portal has really changed the game there's some schools that are almost like banking on the transfer portal they're like hey this is what we'll do we'll save scholarships for some older players that were very talented might want to some big schools like florida didn't get playing time okay we'll pull them over here smu i think had 33 transfers or something of that

nature university of houston's going to be using a transfer portal on the regular these are just schools that i got to talk to personally i assume there's more out there what are your thoughts on the entire transfer portal and how do you handle that well you know what i think this it is what it is so our job as a coach is to adapt to it you And so one of the things is, hey, how do we use it to our advantage? And we've had guys come in and transfer in that have made major impacts on our program. And so I think that's just the way it is. I'm not a big quit guy. You know what I mean?

quit guy you know what i mean so you know i i don't want it to become a crutch for guys saying oh you know boy well i'm not starting right away and this is hard and coach wants me to work hard to earn it here so i just want to transfer over here i don't like that aspect of it um you know and so there's always going to be unintended consequences to something that's good okay i mean somebody that sits here and says hey i earned my degree from this school i'm gonna be a backup i got the opportunity to go start somewhere else i want to go play somewhere else hey this wasn't the fit i thought i have these extenuating circumstances i need to go back home um that's what it's for and when it's used properly i like it i think one of the things we have to be really cautious with with the transfer portal as we look moving forward with the exec is some that numbers don't add up as you say hey i want to save a scholarship or two for transfer portal guys

well you know you're under different sets of numbers and if you look last year there were more people in the transfer portal than there were scholarships. And that's not including our incoming freshmen that we already signed. So these guys are going into the portal and it's actually hurting a lot of people. And I think one of the things you've got to look at, you know, is there a way is, you know, do you count numbers as far as recruiting restrictions different for transfers, right? If a one for one, if I have a guy leave Florida to go in the transfer portal, I can sign a guy out of the transfer portal. Scholarships are all equal. Opportunities are met for different opportunities for kids that are out there. Instead of, hey, you know, we signed

25 in this year's recruiting class. We don't have any spots available. We had three kids leave for the transfer portal. We can't replace them because I've already filled my signee number for the year. You know, so I think there's some balance of things that we're going to have to get to moving forward in the future. Coach, that should be like a club. You know, when a club's at capacity and somebody leaves the club, somebody's allowed in the club. There's actually somebody in there counting. That feels like that's exact. I mean, how have nightclubs figured this out but the ncaa can't figure it out if a guy leaves our school you

know what that means all of a sudden the club has one capacity okay let's go or one i mean hey if you're on the wait list i mean he's trying to get t times out there you're on the waitlist trying to join the club you know get him you're more of a nightclub guy i'm more of a golfing guy probably by the way i did go golf this past weekend i bought out 70 times because i wanted to kind of casually drift around with the boys here it did not get yeah it did not get respected there was somebody on our ass in front of us as soon as we teed off what'd you shoot what did you shoot it was bad it was a bad bad right up here in indiana we don't have the florida weather where you can golf all year round so the first couple first couple hacking sessions is bad for me

because i gotta loosen up i'm tight i'm a big ball hitter i don't know where it's going i'll get good about a month or two from now and then it'll get cold and we won't be able to golf anymore yeah that's what hey that like a hand they should they should for people like you know like in different areas your handicap index should certainly be based on time of year as a football coach. Because, you know, my handicap in July is certainly not my handicap in February. You know what I mean? Yeah. It goes down, but don't apply my July handicap to my February golf round.

That's not a fair thing to do. Look at you, Coach. You're changing the transfer portal. You're changing golf's handicap system. I mean coach you're changing the transfer portal you're changing golf's handicap system i mean we're changing recruiting coach you're an innovator trailblazer two-time national champion head coach of the florida gators damn moan i appreciate you man great to see y'all thanks for having me on go gators what shoes do you have on right now you said you have a good shoe game collection you have good shoes i just have regular nike? You said you have a good shoe game collection. You have good shoes on? I just have regular Nike on. I got these.

We got these. These are these called Nike Cruisers. Those are his workout shoes. I'm going to tell you what. These are, I was talking to Mr. Knight about it. I think if I got it right, we got these. Just texting Mr. Hold on.

Hold on. Stop. Slow running shoes. Stop. Stop. You just have random conversations with Phil Mike? You're just like, hey, I was talking. He does a coaching trip for us to go on,

and I was fortunate enough to sit and spend some time talking to him. Oh! Oh! Oh! Unbelievable deal. But as the Nike presentation, as they were saying, is they don't walk. They're just slow running shoes I'm telling you what no this I mean and you know this in my shoe game

I mean you have running shoes, but on a daily basis man. You want something that is super comfy This is a this this this cruiser is an unbelievable comfortable shoe. This is why you get these meetings with Phil Knight. Yeah, listen to this. This is unbelievable. I might even get sent another pair if I keep showing them right here. I got Nikes on as well. I haven't said a single word to Phil Knight. But if you let them know, these sons of bitches are nice too.

You know what I mean? Hey, was Florida a dream job for you? You know what? It really isn't in that. You know, I don't know growing up. I grew up in New Hampshire. I played small college football. Hey, that's live free or die, right?

Live free or die. You know it. You know it. You know it. But I played small college football at Ursinus College so it wasn't like I grew up and said hey this is my team you know what I mean this is this is what it is you know but but for me when you look at it one of the things I haven't been here as an assistant coach and you come back I always share this with people like I'm at a school right now when I go meet with family and parents

in each of the last two seasons we're the only school in the country that was a top 10 public And you come back. I always share this with people. I'm at a school right now where I go meet with family and parents. In each of the last two seasons, we're the only school in the country that was a top ten public university academically and top ten in football. I don't have to put spins on things. It's a great point. I mean, we don't get the credit academically out there. We're the seventh-ranked public university in the United States. Florida? Very good.

Yeah. Big-time academic school. In the Gainesville that I was in that had 25 cent pitchers. I think I was in there like 10 years ago. They had like 25 cent pitchers. Great time, too. Gainesville's also a good time. Great fan base.

Number seven public school in America. I did not know that. Oh, yeah. Top academic school. Top public university in the SEC. I mean, you're up there. Go look at that. Go to U.S. Oh, yeah. Top academic school, top public university in the SEC. I mean, you're up there. Go look at that. Go to U.S. News & World Report, top ten public universities.

I'm on the president because we did finish sixth in football, and they were seventh academically. He's got to pick it up a little bit. Dr. Fox has got to get us going a little bit. But you know what? When you have that, and then you know the other thing. Hey, I know you're up there like in Indiana. It's a little bit chilly.

Everybody's trying to get down here to Florida. You're working hard on this show so that you can go retire, get a beautiful place here in Florida and work on your golf game. I live here. I got palm tree sunshine. I'm good to go. So, I mean, it is pretty much a dream job when you look at the ability to win national championships, be at a premier academic school

great recruiting base everything you need uh and i got palm trees and sunshine on top of that it's pretty good deal good for you man good for you and you you got phil knight on speed dial i mean this is just dan mullen living good for new hampshire isn't that chip kelly isn't he from new hampshire where's he from he's rhode island right hey manchester new hampshire me chip kelly ryan day the hotbed of coaching manchester new hampshire hey ryan day good dude up there in cincinnati as well he could get a job anywhere he wants and he's staying in cincinnati he's still at cincinnati no ohio state oh yeah but they're gonna luke fickle luke fickle that's he's from oh Ohio. He's a Midwesterner. Ryan Day at Ohio State. Man, it's the New Hampshire connection.

Golly. Live free or die. Look, gotta love it. I did not know New Hampshire's a hotbed. I thought it was not Western Pennsylvania. This is the place. West Virginia, you got Jimbo, you got Saban. That's the place.

Now, tiny little New Hampshire, live free or die, is just pumping out top 10 coaches. Are you kidding me? Good for you, coach. Ladies and gentlemen, Dan Muller. Yeah, Dan! I appreciate you, Dan. Great to be with you guys. Have a great day. Hey, go Gators. Have a good one.

Alright, that's the show. Got a little real. Had some great conversation. Learned a little bit. And I learned how to throw a goddamn curveball. I think we're going to come out of this on the other side stronger, unified and hopefully with a country even better.

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