The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 231 - BIG ASS SHOW. It's My Wedding Week.. Let's Have Convos With Triple H, Jeff Passan, Mark Schlereth, David P. Samson, & Legend, AJ Hawk. Cheers.

Episode Date: July 28, 2020

Today's show is absolutely LOADED. First, ESPN MLB Insider Jeff Passan joins the show to discuss almost half of the Marlins roster testing positive for covid-19, what that means for the MLB going forward, if they have their farm teams close and ready to add players, what Rob Manfred might do, and how the handling of this will have impacts across the American sports landscape (:42-11:07). Next is another installment of McAfee and Hawk Sports Talk where Pat and AJ welcome former President of the Marlins and host of the Nothing Personal podcast, David P. Samson. Pat, AJ, and David discuss where baseball goes from here, if the Marlins were doing the same practices with social distancing and staying safe as other MLB teams, how he would've handled this situation publicly if he were still Team President, and why he doesn't suspect this hiccup will be the end for the MLB season (15:45-31:45). Pat and AJ also react to the Jamal Adams trade, Pat's sick dangles, and everything else currently going on in the sports world (13:14-1:07:57). Later, 3x Super Bowl Champion, 2x Pro Bowler, member of the Denver Broncos 50th Anniversary Team and friend of the program, Mark Schlereth joins the show. Pat and Mark discuss how they think Roger Goodell will take what is happening in the MLB and use it for this upcoming football season, his thoughts on everything that is happening with the Washington football team, a franchise he knows very well, his thoughts on the Jamal Adams trade and the reasons behind it, and how he still has 25" biceps (1:10:11-1:27:47). Lastly, Executive Vice President of Global Talent Strategy and Development for the WWE, and founder and senior producer of NXT, Triple H. Pat and Triple H clear the air in the wake of last week's Adam Cole debacle, and how Triple H thinks it was an honest mistake that was blown out of proportion, and extends an offer for Pat and Adam Cole to meet with no cameras present to hash out their differences (1:27:50-1:41:36). Don't forget to send in a picture of where you're listening to the show with the hashtag #ThisIsWhereImAtPat for the chance to win some free merch. Come and laugh with us, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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You're the greatest. Let's get to it. Perfect timing for this guy. Ladies and gentlemen, he and i had a beef for a while because he goes to me it was too big time for me but here we are monday july 27th as best friends again espn's mlb insider jet passing love you jet thank you for coming on the show i'm assuming it's a very busy day for you so we'll try to make this as quick and brief as possible. What could go wrong has gone wrong for the MLB. Originally, it was going to be a biodome in Arizona or Florida. You told us that the local

markets are so important to the business of things, so that would never happen. Now they're doing the local markets. They're traveling stadium to stadium, and over half of the Marlins roster has COVID-19. What do they do here? How is Rob Manfred going to handle this? It's a disaster. It's a complete disaster. And how they handle this, I don't know at this point. I wish I had a good answer for you. I wish I understood what they were going to do.

But honestly, right now, I'm not going to say Major League Baseball is screwed. But they're in a really bad position where there is no good answer adam can continue you can continue to play and if you continue to play then well the optics of that are a mess you can cancel the season if you cancel the season well that's a complete mess or you could go halfway and you could pause the season and i I do wonder if that's what Major League Baseball is going to do. If they're going to say, hey, we need to step back and see if we can actually do this and make it happen. And I don't know if the answer is yes. I don't know if that pause then turns into something else where the season is altogether canceled.

But going out and playing games tonight anywhere, let alone down in Miami where the Marlins were supposed to play, would look just completely tone deaf. Okay, so I apologize for I'm a step in the middle of that. You said a lot of good stuff there at the end, but let me ask you about this. Adam Silver, whenever they're going into the biodome down in Orlando, he was very open in saying, hey, if we go down there, we have to be able to operate when positive tests come. You know the baseball world a lot more than i do i've only watched rob manford put his foot in his mouth on numerous occasions i would assume that there was some sort of plan in place for if there was positive tests or are they flying by the seat of

their pants right now you think well remember on opening day pat juan soto who's the best player on the washington nationals tested positive for covet 19 and and he was out. And that was one positive test. And the plan that's in place there is you contact Trace and you rapid test the people who he has been around for more than 15 minutes at a time in close contact with. You can't contact Trace for 12 people when they're testing positive. Everyone at that point is in peril in terms of potentially being a covid 19 case and you saw the way that this thing spread it started out with one player testing positive about 72 hours ago three more guys tested positive yesterday and then they did tests after the game and the results came back on those tests and eight more players had tested positive. At this point, we don't know the true extent in nature of the outbreak with the Marlins.

And so how you can sit here and say that this protocol that we have in place, as robust as it is, as much testing as there is, is working or is going to work. You simply can't do that. And so that's why the question comes up. Is this season actually viable? And the answer at this point is definitely not a yes, like it is with the NBA, for example, because they're like the players, for instance, the NHL, I believe they told their players like, hey, we're doing our training camps in our own facilities, but you go home and

you come to the facility, you go home and you come to the facility. You go home, you come to the facility. Does the MLB have those rules in place where it's like, hey, you're at the stadium or you're at home? And is there those types of guidelines, or were they just expecting guys to be smart? And how do they think this spread so rapidly? Was it one or two people potentially going to Magic City?

What was it, you think? Yeah, those lemon pepper wings, man. You know, they, they do not know at this point where the outbreak started their question. Anto, when they were playing the Atlanta Braves in exhibition games before the regular season began, but, but the exact sort of point of contact, they're just not sure of at this point. But, but in terms of how major league baseball is handling what their players do, But the exact sort of point of contact, they're just not sure of at this point. But in terms of how Major League Baseball is handling what their players do, there are guidelines, Chief Page Protocol, that say, you know,

you probably shouldn't be going to the club. Like, you shouldn't be spending time outside of – it's not a bubble that we want to create. We realize that you're going to be be going home to family we realize that there are going to be things that you have to do but don't be stupid about it and here's the thing the players may not have been stupid they this may not have come from a party this may have been something as simple hypothetically as a flight attendant tests positive and they come into contact with him or her like it's like what we know about the transmissibility of this disease is that it is a contagion in the truest sense of the word it can go anywhere at any time and in the fact that players came down with it and that it spread as quickly as it did inside of a clubhouse a contained area where players tend to congregate can't surprise anyone i wonder why everybody

didn't get it there you know oh you're getting a text right now is that from rob manfred just get a text from rob manfred right there i did not someone's trying to call me right now and i probably should pick it up but i'm not going to do that no pick it up pick it up you can pick it up and if anything now i can't pick it up and talk with the guy when i'm on with you like i don't want to give away i don't want to give away who i'm talking to that's not my style okay last question then here before we go if they were to pause the season suspend the season or cancel the season from this point going forward if they were forced to do that because they didn't see any other option business wise would this cost the mlb more money

than playing the season or less money if they were to play the entire season i mean it would cost them more you know the whole business falls apart at this point like it's not just the lack of ticket revenue it's the lack of postseason money it's the lack of of money from local television contracts i mean this is potentially the worst case scenario for major league baseball which is why you wonder how far they are going to go to try and play at this point why couldn't you're the one that told us about the local markets tv markets radio markets being a massive amount of cash into the mlb each season because it's old school it's traditional a lot of the local markets watch their team. How come they couldn't do a bubble and send those streams to the local markets?

What was the exact reason for that? Tech-wise? Money-wise? What was it? They could have. I mean, the truth is they could have. But here's the thing, Pat. Here's the thing. Son of a bitch! This is going to hurt the NFL, Jet. This is going to hurt the NFL bad.

The NFL is going to have to reevaluate everything. Here's the thing. It's not just the teams, though. The players wanted no business of going inside of a bubble because they were worried they were going to have to be away from their families for potentially five months. I get that. You don't want to be away from your kids.

You don't want to be away from your wife. Some guys don't. Like, it's one of those things where the prospect of spending that much time outside of what they are comfortable with or used to just was not going to fly with the players jen if we find out it's just these 12 players and two coaches and they have to sit out for 10 days or whatever what does the reserve roster look like for these mlb teams do they have enough players where the marlins can maybe play in like three days and resume their schedule again? Yeah, theoretically so.

I mean, it's certainly possible that the Marlins who have, I don't know exactly how many players it is, but they have training camp in Jupiter about 90 miles or so north of Miami. It is certainly a possibility that they can bring people down. I know for a fact that they've already been calling some free agents out there, former big league players, trying to bring them in potentially. So the idea that the season's going to be going away right now, not exactly the case. So they need replacement players?

Listen, I know a left-hander who likes tank tops and who can throw a football over a building into a trash can who might, just might, be a possibility. Here's the thing. Here's the thing. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. He's got a job that he's good at already.

Does he really want to give up the life? Would he do that to his boys? Jet, listen. The boys would understand. Don't worry about us if i can make a run at the covet piece of metal i mean we would do that in a heartbeat just have to stay safe go take your calls gonna be a busy day for you we'll be following along at jeff passin on twitter to see what's next we can't thank you enough great backdrop by the way you look very professional

now with the nintendo behind you jet. On air. Look at that. I mean, I just got a tweet from a verified account that Yankees-Phillies is canceled Monday. Have you heard that yet? Come on, Jet. That's the stuff we need to hear. That might have been the call, actually. Ladies and gentlemen, he just missed the scoop, Jet. Boy, Jeff.

Thank you, Jeff. Thanks, boys. I mean, I don't know if it's accurate but it's from a verified account yeah but they were handing out those

blue check marks to just about anybody back in the day it's true Jeff Basson looks like he is in panic mode now granted he was

in panic mode before the deal got done a couple times because he thought his sport that he loves and covers was going to be gone but this

is panic mode at this point one team has 14 how many other places have? Now verified by Ken Rosenthal, who is a verified baseball guy. Two minutes ago that the Yankees Phillies game was canceled. That probably is the call that Jet So, by the way, he would have got the scoop on it.

So they all have a call, and as soon as Jet doesn't answer, they go, well, we'll go to this guy next. Did I just ruin Jet Passon's career? Eye for an eye. He's going to have a big day. He's going to have a big day. By the way, Jet Passon's career? Eye for an eye. He's going to have a big day. He's going to have a big day. By the way, Jet Passon's on it. He's probably not going to sleep.

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I guess there's a lot happening right now. It's happened over the last like 12, 24 hours, huh? Yeah. Last Thursday, we did a watch along for the MLB's debut premier game for their 60-game sprint that is going to be the COVID season here in 2020. Everything seemed to be going well this weekend. I was out by the pool with my future bride, you know, got a good tan, was watching some baseball, watching some MLS,

watching some training at the NBA. I mean, everything was feeling good. Then this week, or you wake up this morning, 14 people in the Miami Marlins organization test positive for COVID-19. They cancel the Miami Marlins and Baltimore Orioles game, and they also cancel the Phillies and Yankees game. Oh my God, is the MLB going to be able to pull this off?

Who knows, AJ? It seems like the internet is a bit gloomy and doomy with America's pastime baseball uh continuing this entire season yeah i guess this is what this is their first test to see how they're going to handle but i i mean that's why it's good david samson will be on here any minute because this is going to happen to other teams and so what do we do i think the next what three to five days we're really going to see what happens. Adam Silver said that whenever we go into the damn diner, I don't know if that's how he delivered it.

But he said, if we do continue this season, we have to be prepared for a positive COVID test. We have to be able to continue to go with a positive COVID test. Now, the bubbles, Orlando for the NBA and the MLS, and now the NHL up in Edmonton and Toronto have been relatively successful, I think, when it comes to positive tests. The NBA has not had any.

The MLS has not had any in five weeks. And the NHL have not rolled out any revelations of anybody tested positive going into Edmonton and Toronto. Zero positive tests of COVID in that world. But the MLB was the one that was closest to what the NFL was planning on doing. Traveling city to city, kind of doing your own facility, going home. Now that one team has 14 people testing positive, games already being canceled. The big question is, will Rob Manfred, known Stooge, which we've all seen, be able to navigate these waters? Will be be tough but joining us now as a man who is a president for the said organization

that currently has 14 positive COVID-19 cases for 18 years ladies and gentlemen a fresh-faced non scumbag looking son of a bitch David Sampson You are exactly my target demographic, so I'm thankful that you appreciate the shave. I said this to you whenever I saw it on the internet, which, by the way, you shaved your beard because baseball was playing again. You were growing it out during the hiatus, during

the hibernation of baseball through COVID-19. Thursday night, Yankees Nationals opening pitch is a terrible one, but it happens. You shave that beard, and I'm going to be honest, you don't look like a scumbag at all anymore. It's going to be hard to call you a scumbag at this point until you tell me some more things that you've done in the past, obviously. Oh, I bet you'll find a way. Let's talk about what's going to happen with the MLB right now.

David, you're around the MLB at its highest level, former Marlins president for 18 years. Do you assume, like I do, that there was some sort of plan in place for if there was positive cases, but 14 in one clubhouse is probably a bit of a tall task? How will the MLB manage this situation? So I think what happened is Major League Baseball said that we want to play games and we understand that players are going to test positive, but we're going to keep going. And there's going to be a point after which we'll have to stop, but we don't know where that is. We're going to take it game by game, moment by moment. In their worst nightmare, they didn't think the moment of inflection would happen after three games. And what's happened is the Marlins have an outbreak. Now they've got to

see if the Phillies have an outbreak because the Marlins were playing in Philadelphia. So if two teams all of a sudden have a problem, then they're going to have to make some hard decisions like suspending the season. But for now, they want to play and here's why. Look at the Yankees last season. Tons of injuries, not COVID, just regular injuries, but the games continue. It was their team B they were called who did so well last season. Tons of injuries, not COVID, just regular injuries, but the games continue. It was their Team B, they were called, who did so well last season. So baseball's always been good at having depth and overcoming injuries. This just feels a little bit different to me. David, has Derek Jeter, has he reached out to you? You think he's trying to bring you back

to try to handle some of this mess? Come on back. Derek Cheater wouldn't reach out to me for a glass of water if he had been stuck in the desert for 40 years. Is that because you're a scumbag? No. Listen, you can call me anything you want, and I love when you do, but I didn't wire the money to the owner of the Marlins. He could have not bought the team. He could have said this is $500 million too much.

He could have said, I don't want to bother with this. He could have said this is not worth it. By the way, he didn't. I kept hitting refresh like Jesse Eisenberg in the social network, waiting for the money to hit the owner's account. Wait, wait, wait, wait. Oh my God, they did it.

That's not my fault. All right, well, we'll ask Jeter at one point whenever we get to talk to him let's let's talk about tomorrow i'm sure that jeter will be right on your show right quickly no chance of that that's why we're thankful for you uh david let's talk about the miami marlins organization is it because they were operating under different rules than everybody else in the mlb or are they doing the same thing? It just so happens that they just so happen to be around somebody that had COVID-19. Are the protocols the MLB have installed here for the teams because they're at their own facilities and they're traveling? Have they been locked down when they're traveling or is it just kind of like a trust thing that got broken obviously with the

Marlins? It's the circle of trust. We're in the circle of trust, aren't we? It's the circle. So here's what actually happens, and we've talked about it maybe on your show and on Nothing Personal, my show. You're expecting 25-year-old kids with money and fame to go to a hotel and sit there and not move except to go to the ballpark. You expect them to social distance at the ballpark and be disciplined about it. And I've been saying it's not going to happen. Look at the games this weekend. There were coaches and managers wearing masks below their nose.

You might as well wear it as your jockstrap if you're going to wear it like that. Then on top of that, you've got no social distancing in the clubhouse. You've got an organization like the Marlins where Don Mattingly, the great Don Mattingly, the great Don Mattingly, questioned what was going on in Atlanta when there was a problem during their exhibition games and they had a hard time distancing and look what happens. So the protocols are in place for a reason and if they're not being followed, that has to be investigated right now. So if I'm Rob Manfordford i am getting to the bottom

of this outbreak and i'm praying that no other teams have it and that everyone's more like soto of washington one and done or even the braves two and done or the reds two and done not like the marlins because two players were good four players, uh-oh, postponement. So when you say, you mentioned earlier, like, of course, Major League Baseball, they want to continue playing. They don't want to have to suspend the season. Let's say a couple more teams this happens to and they have an outbreak like that and they suspend it.

Will they just say, we're going to suspend indefinitely? Do you think they'll give a time period? Like, what would that look like? Well, we all know that there's no way to give a really good time period with COVID-19, but here's a scenario that I could see happening. They could suspend the regular season and go into some sort of bubble situation for a playoffs. And instead of having 20 teams in the playoffs, maybe you have, or 16, which is the new expanded, maybe you have 30 teams in the playoffs and do some sort of tournament in October, because that's where the money is. They've got to play October baseball.

And what the NBA and NHL are now showing and MLS, maybe the bubble can work. I mean, apps and strip club visits and all things like that, but maybe it can work. So maybe what MLB would be forced to do is curtail all travel and go into an October situation it's a pretty big wait to see right now I cannot believe you were a president of a team for 18 years I I the way you speak I very much enjoy I just never expected it from an executive at the level you were at I I very much appreciate you I'm completely unshackled unbridled and and I got in so much trouble as a president over the years because I said more than I should have because I was always available to the media. I was always in front when things were bad, when things were tragic, or when things were good.

I would always speak my mind and tell the truth in the way I wanted to manipulate the truth. But now that I'm in the media with you, I can actually say the truth. Okay, let's talk about the truth. They were planning on doing a bubble early. The MLB was the first league that came out and said, hey, we're going to do a bubble. It's going to be in Arizona. It's going to be in Florida.

Then the Arizona governor said professional sports are allowed to come back here, and the Florida governor said professional sports are allowed to come back here. In a way to lure almost the MLB is what it looked like from an outsider's perspective. Then it came out. No, could never do that because the local TV and local radio revenue is so big. That's why they have to do their local markets. So then governors and mayors from all around the country had to okay it and now they're doing that. Was that the reason why they didn't want to do the bubble? And what

did the bubble have been possible for baseball with how many people there are and how many fields are needed and how long games are so it's a problem at the time you remember florida arizona were doing great with covet 19 and it was the northeast that was such a disaster of course it's totally switched now arizona and florida are a nightmare the problem with the bubble is not so much local tv revenue because as long as the tv games are at night and you're seeing that with the schedule here that all games are at night the local TV revenue because as long as the TV games are at night, and you're seeing that with the schedule here that all games are at night, the local broadcast revenue will continue to flow. Radio revenue is not as big a deal for teams as it used to be 15, 20 years ago. It's really all about TV. And so what's interesting for me is that if they do go into a bubble for longer, they'd have to get permission from the players. The players did not want to go into a bubble for

three months. They felt that was too long. There was a problem with getting families into the bubble. There's a problem in getting friends into the bubble. There's a problem in getting your burner phone into the bubble. And so it would have to be some sort of discussion with the players. And that's something they've been talking about for sure, even before this outbreak. Wow. David, we know the NFL is watching everything, trying to figure out what's going on. Guys are going to start tomorrow, I guess. They're going to go in and start getting tested. You have to show two negative tests before they let you in the building, I guess.

Now, when you mention a bubble, do you think it would be a possibility if something happens early on in training camp with the NFL where there's outbreaks, could they postpone and somehow set up a couple bubbles or whatever they're doing and actually make the season happen in the NFL? Is that a possibility? I just don't know how you do NFL in a bubble. What I do think is possible, you'd have to go to a place with a lot of football fields, and you'd have to wire them

because it's all about TV money. And in football, as you know, it's only a few days a week, and they're really all at the same times, 1 or 4 o'clock. You get the occasional eight o'clock game three nights a week. But what I think you may see is a change in the travel protocols with the NFL, if they can even get to that, where you're going to try to avoid hotels completely. And there will be day of game travel where you go to the city you're playing, you go right to the field, you play the game, you get right back on the plane and you get home. And I know as a football player, you may say you can't do that, but in and out of hotels is a real issue. It's not going to happen. I mean,

that's just not going to get okayed. I think it is a smart thing to make it happen, but just like all these guidelines are like, hey hey let's make it best possible situation just like the mask that they were planning on putting in the football helmets like it's going to be difficult i think to get players a majority of them which are older and the stars of the league to be like okay yeah we we will travel day of game fatigue sets in potential muscle strains everything like that and then the i don't know i hope I hope so. Is that what the MLB is doing? No, they're staying in hotels, right? Because it's extended series at each place.

Yeah, so that's, I had called for them to do eight-game series so you can get into a hotel, get it cleaned, and stay. But they're doing two- and three-game series where teams are flying back and forth all the time. And they did it by geographic region, which to me never made sense. Once you're on a plane, whether the flying time is an hour or three hours, what's the real difference? The fact is you're on and off planes.

You're with different people handling your luggage, the keys to your room, people delivering your room service food. You're in more cities. It looks like Canada was pretty smart to not let the Blue Jays play in Toronto, weren't they? Pittsburgh Blue Jays would have been cool. Diggs got a hat on right now. Diggs became a Pittsburgh Blue Jays fan

for a day and a half, but they fucking just bounced out of town quicker than good baseball did. Yeah, I really screwed that one up. Now you got to get a Buffalo hat. Is that where they're playing? They're playing in Buffalo. I've heard that they're going to start

August 11th, which will be interesting because there's going to be games by August 11th, which will be interesting because – Is that breaking news? – there's going to be games by August 11th. Is that breaking news? No, it's just you not paying attention. Fuck you, David. I expect at least dinner and drinks.

Where do they go from here? There we go. Yeah, where do they go from here now, David? What they're doing now, it's the greatest question, right? What is baseball doing? So they have the Marlins in Philadelphia still. They tested them last night. That's when they got these additional positive tests.

Now they're testing the team again today before letting them travel. They're supposed to play the Orioles today and tomorrow. The game today has been officially postponed. But here's a little nugget for you. The Orioles apparently are getting the hell out of Miami. Can you blame them? They're sitting in a Miami hotel right now with no games to play in the middle of a petri dish. So rumor is that the Orioles are getting on their team charter this afternoon and getting out of Miami back to Baltimore, which means tomorrow's game

is not going to happen. Therefore, the Marlins have no reason to come back to Florida at all because they were only coming back for these two games against the Orioles and then turning around and going to Baltimore. So in theory, in theory, they could just go straight to Baltimore and maybe even play four games in two days if they can have nobody else test positive and if the Phillies can stay negative etc because you've got to get these games played because hey the Marlins and Orioles today was a first place game with two teams in first place yeah I mean we're three games in fucking relax but the uh I like that we have broken news here tomorrow's game is canceled in Miami between

the Marlins and the Orioles, as is tonight's game, which has already been reported. So never reported. And we're using the word postpone, not cancel, because they want to try to get all 60 games in. So there's 60 games in 66 days. There's six off days. But the question will be, do they decide to just not have the Marlins come back to Florida right now, which is another disadvantage to the team to have them be nomadic and being on the road, especially with the outbreak. David, we can't thank you enough. Your wealth of knowledge and incredible delivery is second to none. Thank you, man. Hey, have a great day, guys.

Thank you. Any other breaking news? No, I'm just about to do a few more shows. And nothing personal was pretty interesting but when i'm with you that's breaking news enough anytime you can drop an f-bomb on me you're doing it on behalf of millions of people who all say thank you i'm doing it for a lot of ex-baseball players i assume they were down there in the marlins potentially the do you think manfred's going to speak today some point he has to right to, right? Well, they released a statement, and Jeter released a statement,

and Manfred released a statement. It took them quite a while to do a statement, which we would have had prepared within five minutes because all it said is we're testing the players and we care about the safety. But what happened while we were on the show just now, David Price sent a tweet saying that he's now going to test whether Rob Manfred really cares about the health of the players the way he said. And that's why David Price apparently opted out.

Of course, he has $64 million due to him over two years following, so he can do it. But I think Rob has to take the podium and show leadership right now and explain his decision-making, why he's doing what he's doing. I think it's critical. And Roger Goodell is paying attention. I promise you that. For sure. making why he's doing what he's doing i think it's critical and roger goodell is paying attention i promise you that that for sure roger goodell is potentially calling manfred saying hey pal let's let's do a little bit better than you have done in press conference situations because this is going to affect us and roger goodell is saying i'm going to have to answer a lot of questions

to whatever you do here and however you're running these things so let's go ahead and tighten up david price to your point now we really get to see if MLB is going to put players' health first. Remember when Manfred said players' health was paramount? Part of the reason I'm at home right now is because players' health wasn't being put first. I can see that hasn't changed. David Price saw that news this morning and did a fucking, I knew it.

I knew this was going to happen. And it feels like if we really did take a second to think about how the MLB was operating, that there was a chance that this was going to happen. And you would think that Manfred or somebody would have planned for that, but that'd be asking a lot. I also want to point out that David Price, what a great guy and a great pitcher, but it's easier to opt out when you know you have two years left on your deal and you're still going to make $64 million, even with declining performance. When you've got players like an Aaron Judge, who doesn't have long-term security, he has no choice in that he can opt out.

You had a pitcher for the Reds, Anthony Descalfani, who used to be with the Marlins, who said, I can't opt out even with a pregnant wife because I'm going to be a free agent next year and I've got to play. So it's pretty easy to say that, but that's why you need leadership from your union and from the commissioner, because you don't want to put players in a position where they're choosing money over safety and health, because at the end of the day, many people would choose that. Business always wins, ladies and gentlemen, David P. Sampson. Thank you, sir. Yeah. Have a good day. You too.

That guy, he's the best. Hey, AJ, imagine having to go in and negotiate your deal and that fucking guy sitting across the table. Man. And he's just leaking stuff to the media all the time to make you look bad, make you sound like you don't work hard, you don't care about the team, your ego is out of control. He may not believe any of it, but he's just doing it to drive your price down.

He said in his answer, I was always out in front of it to manipulate the truth that they had. He said that. The other MLB presidents and owners and everybody had to be like, yes, we got to get him away from our product as quick as possible and on the flip side i enjoy listening it is refreshing to hear how honest that guy is about everything that he's done either terribly or how they work the system oh very much especially a guy that was the president of a team that sold like how many what did it sell for again i know he said it was like 500 million too much so did he negotiate that deal then he was the one that

negotiated that with jeter's people and that's why Jeter hates him so bad because he feels like he got fleeced by him? Wouldn't that be the owner, though? Yeah, but he's the president of company. Who's negotiating the sale of company? Probably president, right? Or your lead counsel, whoever your lead counsel is. Jeter paid $1.2 billion for the Marlins.

You paid $500 million too much, he said. I mean, that's Jeter's fault. That's credit to Samson and the owner of the Marlins you paid 500 million too much i mean that's not that's jeter's fault that's not that's credit to samson and the owner of the marlins well it also depends on how things were laid out right anytime you're purchasing something the way things are displayed potentially versus how they actually are is but hey you got hey that's business baby you do you got to look into all that stuff because they'll get you it feels feels like they're going to have to postpone this thing. If now we have breaking news, three games are being postponed. The Marlins and Orioles tonight, the Yankees and Phillies tonight, and the Marlins and Orioles in Baltimore tomorrow.

It feels like they are in Miami tomorrow. It feels like we have at least three games being postponed right now. Who knows what's happening with every other COVID-19 test? I mean, it's over. I hate to say it, but. You need to be a bit more positive. Goodbye, baseball. I'd love to be.

It's been nice. Hope you find your paradise. I'll be a little bit more positive. You too. You mostly, AJ. No, I mean, I'm not saying baseball's over. I'm not saying they're done. David said, oh, this was their worst case scenario,

like their worst nightmare that had happened three games in. Maybe it's not. Maybe it's good that it happened right now and not right before the postseason starts or right in the middle of the season. Maybe now they can find a way to get a hold of it. I mean, I guess part of it too is that we just haven't heard anything, so I feel like they just weren't prepared for this at all,

didn't even think it was a possibility when it should have been one of the first things they had checked on returning to play. It was like what they were going to do if something like this happened. So I don't know. But it feels like if they've already started to cancel these games, what's stopping them from just being like, all right, fuck it, let's just postpone the rest of money. Money, yeah, for sure.

That's the end-all, be-all in every conversation. Adam Silver, though, and I said this to David Sampson, and I still have yet to get an answer. They had to. Somebody in that MLB front office had to have at some point said, we should probably have a plan for if COVID-19 comes knocking on the door somewhere. I would assume that that happened somewhere. But with the lack of answer and the lack of response here from,

and I guess they have responded, but the urgency, they didn't just have a plan to just roll out. Like, okay, this is what we're going to do. Postpone the game. Test everybody. Here's our statement. Keep them locked down. Let's see if we can get this thing in a control situation.

It feels like they're potentially flying by the seat of their pants almost, and I might be wrong in thinking that in the feeling of it all, but it does feel like that is potentially what's happening, and that's not good news. And to your mention, to further your point, that Goodell is watching this just like one day before training camp is supposed to pop off, and we kind of have a similar roadmap blueprint as you. We're not going into a bubble.

We need you not to fuck us up, Manfred. God, we need to figure this out. Yeah, not only are we not going into a bubble in the NFL, you can't really go into a bubble. You're going to get every team in one location and quarantine them for, what, six weeks before you start the season and then say, all right, cool, guys, the next four months, this is it. This is home. Don't go anywhere. Do you think that's going to happen?

You know what they're thinking, by the way? What? Replacement players. Here we go. Yep. They said it. John Heyman, is that who put it out? John Heyman, who's an MLB insider.

You don't have a bat. Big baseball shoe. I just don't want to take my earphones out. Oh, so you're not prepared. It's okay. Don't worry about it. John Heyman, MLB insider, said that the Marlins are currently seeking MLB quality players so that they can basically field a team at this point if they have to

in case of a potential long hold on the players being quarantined. And we all know, we knew this was fucking coming. I've been preparing. I've been taking hacks in this studio for, what, two months now. Look at that. I even got the hip flip, and I know I'm a lefty. I could be a real player out there now. Oh, yeah.

Yeah, I believe it. I mean, I think you should do it. Get the first. You see that drag bun I just did? You get a drag bun? I'm looking a lot faster now, too. I don't know if I actually am, but I'm looking faster. So for me, that has to mean something.

Pittsburgh Penguins, they're going to win it all, by the way. They just want to cross the top. The NHL has checked into their bubbles, by the way, in Toronto and Edmonton after having training camps at their own individual facilities. I believe scrimmages begin Saturday. They're playing exhibition games. No, no, those are real live games on Saturday.

Saturday's coming up already? Yep. What time do the Pens play on Saturday, August 1st? 8 p.m. Prime time. Really? Really? Really? Yep.

Just a little gathering we're going to have, though, to celebrate the love of your life and the unity coming together. Sanctity of marriage. And then Sidney Crosby in the background on a big screen filling in that with pucks, baby. Doesn't NBA start that day, too? Oh, yeah. 30th.

They start Thursday. Oh, yeah. I'll get that. Don't worry. I don't need to see it. I know what's going to happen. Sidursday oh yeah i'll get that don't worry i don't need to see i know what's gonna happen season's gonna score i don't need to see it i do i do i you know i don't need to see it don't need to see it august 1st doesn't matter but pens are 1 and 0 officially as of saturday night in the 24 team covid cup that's running in toronto and edmonton they had zero positive covid cases after having training camps in their own facilities where guys could go home and come back.

Hockey players said, all we need is ice in bed. We play good. And it seems like they actually live by that. Will the MLB be able to do that, TBD? Don't you think right now we're getting to the point where we're seeing all these games postponed already that they're just going to have to take a like in three or four days they could say hey all right season's on hold we'll be back soon enough we just don't know when we got to get a handle on this yeah i i don't know what's gonna happen you don't need a hockey

stick either you don't need but what's that dude once you get up there and take a few cuts with that hockey stick put the bat down have you ever seen my next door neighbor clap on bro let's see it no i haven't oh oh oh bro so you see i got dangles obviously yeah yeah Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,

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Do you want triple? Oh, no. Oh, the triple D! Oh! Bro, big fucking hockey show, dude. I don't think hockey's going to need any replacement players, though, so that's why I put the stick down about the bat app, because there's a chance that baseball does need replacement players.

I think hockey, they're going to lock it up up there. They're going to be locked down. I got a question, though. I got a question for Ty especially. Okay. Baseball, let's say they find a way through this and make it happen. Football, for some reason, this is just all hypothetical. Football can't happen. If something happens, Football gets shut down.

Does Russ Wilson go play for the Yankees this season? Is he allowed to in his contract? Great question. Bingo. Yeah, he brings him in, and then Aaron Boone probably gives the opposing starting pitcher like $100 to hit him in the head. Come on. Get him out of the lineup.

Why? Why would you want him out of the lineup? Because he's so good? How do you know? He stinks. He's a Yankee. He's a leader. No, he goes good? How do you know? He stinks. He's a Yankee. A leader. No, he goes up and plays grab ass at fucking spring training.

I mean, you know. Well, he can't play grab ass now. He can't touch anybody's ass warm up. I'd love to go put on a uniform and go to spring training. Don't you think that'd be fun, Pat? Yeah, I mean, I've done it before. But yeah, it would be. Well, of course it's fun.

It's a distraction to the team. That's what I'm saying. Guy hasn't earned his goddamn pinstripes. That's why he won't be taking the field. He can go have fun at spring training all he wants. That's fine. Yeah, but they might need him, by the way. He might be in their reserve list of like, hey, we don't have any other players.

Like the Mets, they got Tebow sitting somewhere locked down in his house or whatever with his dog and his gym. They're like, hey, listen, if our entire starting lineup gets COVID, we're going to call you out of that house. Thanks for being on keto. You look like a mountain. Now we need to see if you can hit a curveball up here. I assume Russell Wilson is in that same department

for the Yankees for sure. If Russell Wilson can hit a curveball on the screws out of the yard, then you know what? Bring him to town. Let's see him do it. But I mean, that son of a butt, he's going to be wearing a sombrero every week. He's going to be going 0 for 4, 4Ks.

He's just going to embarrass himself. We don't need that. He doesn't need that. He's got a baby. By the way, I bet you he does have a baby named Wynn. Yeah, which. You know what? Because all he does is Wynn, Wynn, Wynn, Wynn, Wynn, Wynn.

No matter what. Guy's insufferable. I bet you he could hit a curveball, though. I bet you that son of a bitch could hit a curveball. Out of the park. You don't get into spring training without being able to hit that curveball, don't you think? No, especially for the Yankees.

Yeah. Maybe the Pirates. The tradition that goes with that team. What do you say? And he talks like he is a baseball player on a football field, which would be very weird to be a teammate of. I wish I could experience that one time. What do you mean, though?

Could you give an example? I guess when he was mic'd up, they showed some of it and he was like legitimately saying movie quotes like in the huddle like hey clear eyes clear heart here boys let's go ahead and let's go get like that type of stuff i've never heard somebody so genuinely positive around a huddle on the sideline in warm-ups interacting with people i think that's just who he is ty hates it but i think he is like legitimately just like ultimate hype guy all the time seems like a nice guy like when i show andrew luck being miked up and guys annihilating okay good hit buddy like he's just so nice is that what russell is yeah but i i think it's like different i don't think andrew was like the

cheerleader guy on the sideline you know what does that make sense like yeah it felt like Russell was like here we go baby attaboy attaboy attaboy here we go here we go like little baseball dugout huh it's all from baseball comes from his baseball background he's used to oh come on blue you know talking to the arms that's just that's part of the baseball chatter so he's still mentally in the baseball world so if he was to just get dropped right into the pinstripes in the middle of this season, especially with the way he's mentally tough and had to deal with adversity and how many problems there would be,

he probably bet, I don't know, four or 500, if I had to guess. At least. I don't know about four or 500. I bet he would. It's probably almost a guarantee if he decided to play for the Yankees in

the big leagues, he'd probably hit three for 350. And if it was a full season, he may have 54 or 55 home runs. I think so, too. That's why they signed him is such a big deal because they knew that MLB could at any moment come in and compete price-wise for him,

especially the fucking Yankees. So maybe this is the year we see Russell Wilson and his pinstripes in meaningful games. Yes. Or maybe this is the year we don't see baseball again after having a hot start. Thursday night, their highest rated regular season game since 2011. Four million average viewers.

I would sure hope it was the highest rated in a long time. It was. I know. That wasn't like shocking news, was it to you? No. It would have been shocking if it wasn't. If they're like, hey 400 000 people tuned into the first live baseball we've had in 30 years like do you really think that would have been news to

me i guess yeah you're right you're right though i i would but they said throughout so i i think a lot of people turned on the game to see sports back let's see how weird this is with the empty stadium let's see fouch throw one into the fucking dirt let's see this whole thing but they said throughout the six innings which by the way maybe food for thought for changing the game make it six innings instead of nine they said throughout the six innings though it averaged four million which hasn't happened in a long time i enjoyed it i mean it got a little bit boring in there but the fact we could bet on literally every single pitch made it a lot better at vandal but it is it is something that's very intriguing to see if they can carry if they can carry views and by the way maybe this covet

scandal is just like you know something to cook up a little like maybe they felt like they were losing a little bit of buzz after the weekend let's go cook up a covet story we're still playing baseball bang we're back on tonight although one game's being postponed we still got others ready to go so is anyone playing on espn is there a primetime baseball game tonight the mets were on last night it was a fucking sad state of affairs i mean it was 14-1 at home in front of those cardboard cutouts while the team's being talked about being sold to a massive yankee i mean it is just bad bad night for the mets night. I would assume that there is a game on tonight on ESPN Digs. Tonight we have the Mets at the Red Sox, 7.30 p.m.

Mets at the Red Sox up there in Boston? Going to get rolled on. If you guys lose to the Mets, you should think about maybe postponing the rest of your games as well after what I saw last night. Don't worry, we won't. And also, we do have the worst pitching staff in the MLB, so we might lose.

There's also a primetime game at 4. Well, maybe not primetime. There is a game, national game on ESPN today, the Diamondbacks at Padres, 4 p.m. Eastern. Brandon Stahl in a YouTube comment, he said, empty stadium is just a normal baseball game. Touche. That is a lot of baseball games.

Got him. But there also is some baseball teams that pack the haasot and all those teams are normally the teams that have been on prime time did you see fox put into fake fans the animated fans and then they were leaving actually while the team was losing and they reacted and i thought that was pretty clever that's going to get old obviously but i like that the production team at Fox and the production team is like, all right, we can adjust and make this kind of cool as well.

We can do something. We'll spend, I don't know, 4,000 hours animating all these humans that'll look like a video game crowd. I like it. I mean, I think we're just seeing the very beginnings of what it's going to be. They're going to figure this out to make it, I guess, the best possible viewing experience for us with no fans

because it doesn't look like fans are coming back to stadiums anytime soon. I like the cutouts. I think when you have a couple rows of cardboard cutouts and you zoom in, it makes you feel like a normal game almost. You zoom out, you mean. But when you zoom in, it's good content, good conversation. No, no. I mean when you zoom in and you only see the rows of cardboard cutouts

and you don't see all the empty seats above them. Oh, okay. I thought you meant, but not too far so you know it's cardboard cutouts and you don't see all the empty seats above them oh okay i thought you meant but not too far so you know it's cardboard cutouts it's that happy it's that happy medium area there where like when you play like when uh say you're calling a football game and there's not a whole lot of people they're just the lower bowl is full guess what those cameramen and camera woman they are trained to not zoom out too much if you don't have to try to keep it tight and keep the fans in the shot why are you mentioning that here well me and you worked on a game once before it was a big stadium though there's still a lot of fans there was a large

stadium a lot of people dress like seats here tonight they are often running and i got somebody in my ear what a minute and a half later need you not comment about the amount of people that are in the stands. Yikes. See, I think that was a mistake by them trying to tell you, trying to censor yourself a little bit. Like, no, people obviously would think that's funny. They could see that there's not a whole lot of people in the stands, but we can't mention it.

Like, I thought it was perfect by you. So let's talk about that. That was for Fox. I've done work for ESPN. ESPN and Fox have chose two very different routes to cover games. Fox is doing a lot more fake crowd noise. They're doing the animation. ESPN is choosing just run it as it is.

It's been very kind of interesting to see the reaction of people. I don't mind the fake crowd noise as long as it's smart like it has to be cleverly done like you have to have somebody paying attention to when who's saying what if it's just a lazy old crowd fake crowd where it's yeah like it doesn't make any sense i think it's bad but i think fox has actually been doing an okay job of kind of finding the balance and they're obviously still working through it. But I don't mind the fake crowd noise for the telecast because it makes me feel as if I'm not just watching practice the entire time.

Yeah, I don't mind it. I don't mind having some even a little ambient noise in the background. I mean, my kids sleep with a sound machine, and I sleep great. Like, if I can hear their sound machine, it makes me sleep great. Now, I'm not saying I want to be put to sleep watching a game, but I do like having a little bit of background noise. There's a little noise, you know. By the way, I don't mind hearing their mics too.

Yeah. I don't mind hearing the mics as well. I think there's a way you can kind of find it all in there if you've got the right person doing it. What up, Diggs? I thought this was interesting news. It just came through the group. Vikings head trainer and the team's infection control officer,

so I believe he's in charge of the team infection control stuff. Has tested positive for COVID-19. The fuck? Well, the infection control doctor is a local doctor in Minnesota that is chosen by the Vikings to be their specialist. Okay, that's normally how this works. He doesn't work full time with the Vikings. He also runs his own practice, and he is also the Vikings doctor.

Now, I don't know if that's 100% of the time, but that is basically every situation I've ever seen. They also run their own practices and on the weekends they act as the Colts or the NFL's head doctor. There's a brain guy, there's an ortho guy, there's an infection guy, there's an entire series of doctors that run their own practices, but then they are also the expert for the NFL teams. They come in during training camp. They come in during games. During the week, they'll be in there once a week

where you have to set up a timing and everything. And if this guy's an infection doctor, I would assume that he's potentially been exposed to more COVID-19 than most people in Minneapolis or Minnesota because that's who you would be going to if you have COVID-19. So I think he probably has a higher or she has a higher chance of getting it than anybody else. This says that he's actually the head trainer of the team as well.

Is it Sugarman? Yes. Yeah. He's the one that walked, I think, Peter King through the whole. I talked about it last week, I believe, when they wrote a story on everything that that guy is doing to try to make sure everything is as clean as possible, this is all the protocols we have.

Now he tested positive, I guess. The question is, where did he get it? That guy doesn't have his own practice? He's a trainer. Vikings head trainer and the team's infection control officer. The fuck? How tough is that for a team? How irreplaceable is the head trainer?

Well, it's fucking terrible, but he's the infection control doctor, and he has it. That seems to be more alarming than the head trainer. Head trainer, obviously a problem. He sets up everybody's rehab plans. He's the one that people are running everything through. But they have a team of very talented people there, I would assume, in Minnesota.

The fact that he's the head infection control officer. I assume every team had him. That seems like a made up title they just had to give to somebody and they gave to him. Yeah, but every team had to have one. Right, but you were right on with your point earlier where usually you bring in a doctor who works in a local healthcare facility and pay them to be the part-time employee

not just take your athletic trainer and be like yep, that's your job. And by the way, that probably has to be in the protocol. You have to have at least one infection control officer. But the fact that he doesn't work anywhere but that building. So if he was to work somewhere else, maybe somewhere else he would have got it. But the fact that he only works at the Vikings building, and I would assume since he knows the protocol, he's only supposed to go home and go to the building.

How many people have, because then you've got to trace how many people he's been around, and if he's been in the building for the last couple of months with the Vikings coaches, oh, no. It says in the release, along with members of his family have tested positive. Oh, no. Fuck it. You got that kid that's out on Lake Minnetonka. You got your kid out on Lake Minnetonka out there.

Hey, you brought up a good point, though, Pat. When you mentioned, like, just say the team orthopedic surgeon, for example. So every team has an orthopedic guy that does a lot of your surgeries. And at least in Green Bay, I remember, like, McKenzie, the orthopedic doctor, he would be there two, three days a week early in the morning. If you had to see him, you'd see him before meetings started, and he'd come by wearing his suit, and then he finishes up there at 730 in the morning, and he goes over to his private practice.

And he's either in surgery or he's seeing patients all day. What does he do now? Is he still able to come? Like, it doesn't seem like you obviously have to have an orthopedic guy there. You can't quarantine him away and say, hey, sorry, even though a lot of the teams don't pay these doctors to be their team doctor, it's an added benefit. They go to every game.

But now that guy, is he going to be able to see patients and still come in and see the players? Or do you have to have a guy that's strictly just there at the stadium for them? Yeah, because if the test results aren't coming back for 72 hours and he's going and seeing other patients and people, how do you know that if he tested 72 hours that it's still clean right now? Oh, no. We're fucked, aren't we? This ain't happening.

We need the testing that is instant, like five-minute testing. That's what we really need. I guess there is a test coming from across the water that is a couple-hour, maybe instantaneous response test that's coming over that will be purchasable. From what I've been told in my internet deep dives, that there will be a test that is much quicker. But how many of those do they have?

Because they're going to need what every rich person on earth is going to want one of those. Their corporations are going to want one of those. Every NFL team is going to want one of those. Every MLB team is going to want that. Every NBA team is going to want that. Every human on earth is going to want that. How many can they make?

Well, hey, you should, maybe we should sometime this week get my brother-in-law, Brady Quinn, on. When I did that serious show with him last week, he mentioned multiple times on air, he knows a guy, a doctor down in Florida that has a test that's like a seven-minute test. He's like, it's there. It's available. It's ready to roll. I'm like, okay, then what's the issue? And he said, I don't know. I've reached out to a lot of different people in the nfl and different people and i've got nothing back and i was like well if this dude truly has a test that works and it's like a seven minute results test you would think they would use it but i i cannot imagine the red tape you got to go through to try to get something like that brought in a guy named six texas boy said we have 15 minute tests in

oregon so you're not texas boy then you're Oregon boy. If you're talking about that, but I, those are not prevalent. I do not think those are very normal. Those types of tests. Cause everybody who has talked about getting tested always talks about how long the results take. They're always talking at least a day or something like that is the biggest.

Everybody thinks the vaccine folks are going to make a lot of money and they are obviously, obviously they're going to make a lot of money and they are obviously obviously they're gonna make a lot of money who knows when that's like what is there is there a specific individual that you think will make a lot of money up from the vaccine the vaccine people obviously the now that's too broad who who are the vaccine people I don't know who that is me neither how about that how's that feel big pharmaceutical random like random rich people around the world or what yeah probably the richest people around the world if i had to guess but aside from that the people that create the test now they that business is going to become one that is needed right now like

we keep talking about vaccine vaccine vaccine and i agree like vaccine is obviously big especially people put people's mind at ease and kind of move forward and everything like that but the testing is that the quicker that gets turned around to get quicker results, the better for everything, I think. Because then if you test positive, boom, lock it down. Boom, you test, lock it down. But now you test and then you're around other people for, what, 48, 72 hours. You have no idea if you're still negative at that point.

And you're potentially high-fiving folks who are maybe playing dominoes or cards with 10 other teammates of yours i mean there's a lot that the testing needs to be something that we look at a little bit more well and those tests either aren't readily available or they aren't that accurate because otherwise these sports leagues would have been using them because like the mlb was waiting yeah like three days to get tests back if you could get it back in 15 minutes and it was accurate, then why wouldn't you do that? That's why the Marlins, isn't that why the Marlins are still, they're still, what, are they in Philly? Is that right? Yeah. Because they're waiting on the results of their tests before they get out of town. If they would have known, they could have done it right in the clubhouse there. And if it's a five to 10 minute test,

you would have known, okay, you guys stay back. We're taking these guys back. You could figure it all out. Yeah. And there's a lot of people popping off in the comment section a about who who's going to benefit from these vaccines but also that there are like 15 minute tests and stuff all over the place i i haven't heard of any of a lot of 30 accurate yeah the 50 i think all the quick ones are a lot of false negative false positives and by the way there's a lot of numbers coming out as positive tests and cases that I guess the more and more you look into them, you can't fucking trust anything these days.

All right. Jamal Adams. We said it last week. There was no way he was able to walk back into that locker room or team meeting room and Adam Gase think that he's 100% confident in his position and that the team was listening to what he was saying after Jamal Adams did an interview saying, this guy stinks, we won't win the big one with him.

He gets traded after months of drama and controversy. He's pumped. The Jets get a couple first-round picks, and Bradley McDougald, another safety. He ends up in the Seattle Seahawks uniform. Everybody's assuming that an extension will be coming at some point for him. Jamal Adams just laid it out perfectly. If you want to get traded, you can go public if you want.

First ask him directly, privately, then get public, then take out an AK and saw Don, the head coach of the place, and see if you can get out of there. Within a couple days, I'd assume it will work out. He heads to Seattle Seahawks. Yeah, it worked out for Jamal Adams. He's going to the Seahawks, another great football team, with

a chance to win it all when you have Russell Wilson and the rest of the supporting cast, but the reason Jamal Adams was able to do this is because he's a great player. If he wasn't a great player, you don't have any leverage. You can't go out there and badmouth the head coach publicly. They'll say, oh, cool, and they just cut you, and you hope somebody else signs you.

But the fact that the Seahawks gave up so much, a first and a third in 2021 and then another first in 2022, that's a giant, giant package that they gave up to get him. So I think the Jets, I mean, yeah, everybody's a winner here, and I think the Jets are absolute winners. Like, of course, Jamalel adams great player very young gonna have a huge career could possibly be a hall of famer someday but you get that you get two first rounders and a third rounder for him getting rid of a guy that doesn't want to be there it's

pretty good deal by the jets gm joe douglas i think i agree old joey douglas got a lot in return and now he has to draft right with him right and that? And that's the big roll of the dice. Because to be honest, GMs get judged very hardly, firmly, very sternly. Harsh. Keep going. Harshly. GMs get judged by their draft picks, right? That is how it goes. And there are some GMs that for whatever reason just get unlucky in drafting

or they see something that they think is a incredible quality and then the player doesn't work out so you can trade for two first rounders for jamal adams but jamal adams is a proven good player in the nfl on the field if those two draft picks turn out to be shit i mean obviously you're gonna look very stupid at the end of this whole thing so it it all, I mean, situations are situational, but in this particular situation, we have to see what the situation unfolds into here in the next couple of years with who those picks are.

Because I think if you're a Jets fan, you see Quinton Williams, who's a stud on the line. You got Jamal Adams, who's young, and he's in the back end, a perennial all pro now at this point. You got Sam Darnold. If Le'Veon Bell has motivation on that side, you might potentially think like,

hey, we have a young team here that can really maybe do some work as long as our quarterback doesn't get mono. And then now it's like, boom, gone. Now we're playing it for the future yet again. It's like, how often and how many times do we have to fucking think about the future around here? I would like to think about the now at some point.

You can see how those people could be upset, but business-wise, feels like good things are in return if they take advantage of it. Now with the Seattle Seahawks and Jamal Adams, I mean, that team was winning games, and they were not built to win as many games as they have. The Yankee, Russell Wilson, just puts that team on his back, it feels like, in certain situations and wins for them. They think now, a lot of people on the internet were like,

okay, with Jamal Adams there and then building a good team maybe that's enough to lure jadavion clowney back at a cheaper price so really shore up some things over there seahawks are putting together quite a squad but this reminds me of his reaction of earl thomas who we all know was once a seahawk and then he got carted off the field with a middle finger flying to Pete Carroll. Yeah, he did, but I was surprised just how much Seattle gave up because I feel like Seattle had the leverage here. Let's say when they initially reached out to the Jets, hey, all right, we want Jamal.

What do you want for him? What are you going to do? Whenever they threw this out there, this offer, okay, we need a couple first-rounders and third-rounders as well this year. They'd be like, no, what are you talking about? You obviously need this guy off your team. You have to trade him or cut him right now

with what he has said about your head coach. You kind of have to take a stand, I guess. You're not going to get rid of Gase because of something a player says this year, maybe next year or something. I feel like they had a lot of leverage, and they gave up a lot to get them. Somebody else must have been in the game then.

Yeah, most likely. Or the Jets made the Seahawks think somebody else was in play. Well, the Jets. Hey, Joe Douglas. What do you think David Sampson would have done if he was the Jets there? How many offers would he have been fielding? Listen, 10 teams have already said they're going to give us seven first rounders you gotta at least come into something there what's up i heard a report this morning or this weekend that it was seattle thought that um dallas and san francisco was also

in play so there was a lot of people trying to make moves for him i would assume that because we talked to uh bean billy bean brandon brand Bean, Buffalo Bills general manager, because he traded for Stephon Diggs this offseason. I asked him, I said, hey, whenever you see somebody's having a little conflict or maybe doesn't seem happy, is that something where you're like, oh, we could potentially trade for that? And he said, absolutely. If a guy looks like there's a potential salary cap issue coming up or his contract's up or there is a little bit of a personal beef,

that is something that GMs are very like, okay, let's give a call. Let's see if there's anything interested here, any interest here. So I assume more than a few teams reach out for Jamal Adams because that got very public, very ugly, very quickly. And then him quote tweeting that article of him saying that this guy stinks. I mean, it just, there was no way that he was going to be a Jet this year. And we all kind of knew it.

So they wouldn't have given him that up if they didn't know or think that somebody else was potentially giving him a bunch of shit as well. Well, don't you think this looks like, for Gase, it looks like a power move, like he won the deal, even though he probably didn't negotiate any of it? Oh. That was a good play. You've got to shoot your eyes all over the room though i mean what was he doing was he just trying to find focus there you're just trying to get back and get the clicker in his hand because he's just the only natural with the clicker watching film it was too bright out

there he wants to get back in the film room where it's a little dark you know he's like coming out of the casino like 3 4 a.m over in vegas oh shit what's going on i don't want to change the subject here but aj was being very facetious earlier when you were showing off your sick mitts. The NHL just tweeted at you. Said how good you looked. The NHL? Yeah, the entire league.

Uh-oh. That's how you fucking play hockey, AJ. Look at that. Look at these thighs, too. I can't skate, but you put me on flats out there, I'll be able to keep up. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. Hey, Deacon, why don't you get a puck? Get a puck or a ball, man.

Let's see what you can really do. What's that, Puck? Get a puck or a ball and show us if you can really do this. Get a puck or a ball and show us if you can really do this. Men, have three or four of the boys come in and try to knock you into the wall and make it kind of realistic. What's that, Bob? I'm not going to repeat myself again. Don't mind the dangles.

Don't mind the dangles. Shoot it. Oh. Oh, fucking no. Are you kidding me, dude? Are you kidding me dude are you kidding me i take it back maybe maybe you do have the skill to go to the nhl tomorrow i'm a deck hockey player i can't skate for shit we used to have friday night open ice or whatever and i think three out of the four weeks i went me or one of my friends ended up in the emergency room i'm a land animal not an

ice animal and we learned that lake minnetonka can you rollerblade i used to be able to but now this muscle locks up are you oh wow are you on a string. Not even looking, by the way. All right, now what? Now what do you do with it? I don't know what you want me to do, dude. Oh! Fucking goal. Make a play, man. Cool.

I mean, I don't know what else I'm supposed to do. Got the NHL tweeting at me? How about it? Hopefully Rob Manfred in Major League Baseball tweets at you next. He should just let me speak for him, I think. Kid's got a future at NHL. Who is running that account? Somebody with a big brain, pal.

Probably Gary Bettman, if I had to guess. You're probably right. Hey, did you hear we got an apology this morning, too? It's been a good day here monday july 27th we got an apology from who the guy that punked you in your studio okay okay all right okay who else then who who apologized that his name is adam cole but that's not the guy you're that's never happened what you're talking about oh my bad i I'm misremembering the clip that I watched. That's a show, dude.

The show's over. Fuck you. Come on. Get out of here. Why are you such a baby? I'm not being a baby. I was an adult in this situation, okay? And now I'm getting attacked, not only by you.

Hold on. Not only by you. I've had 15 ex-teammates and coaches come after me for looking like a little. They called me a little bitch in my studio. Yeah, just like him. Just like he just did right there. I was an adult. I did not know that was going to happen.

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traveling stadium to stadium unlike the bubble sports what are your initial thoughts on how this could potentially affect roger goodell and the nfl's decision making when training camps start tomorrow mark well i i think ultimately probably oh no a real serious for the nfl and i think one of the things you're going to look at here, Pat, is you're going to sit down with your players and say, okay, here's how serious this actually is. The fact that if we're going to have this thing go on and we're going to actually play an NFL season,

our ability to sacrifice for one another is of the utmost importance. Because I can see you going 22, 23 years old. You feel indestructible. I mean, we've all been there, right? And you roll into your summer camp in Miami where, you know, in Florida, cases are spiking all over the place. And you and a couple of your boys go out and have a few drinks. You know, it's the Lou Williams rule, right? You know, you can't swing out and go to the strip club real quick and get yourself a steak. That's not going to cut it. And ultimately,

ultimately, you look from the old school perspective, you know, back in our day, we'd have just whipped your ass. You know, you've got a coat red. Like, you can't do this, right? You're costing all of us, our professions, and you're costing and putting all of our families at risk. And so the ultimate in unselfishness is what has to be practiced here when it comes to the NFL. So this is a great learning curve, a great learning experience as they go through all the contact tracing in Miami to use this as a learning curve lesson. I will tell you something happened to me. You're going to love this story. Oh, yeah.

They asked me, back when I was playing for the Skins, they asked me to come down. They had their rookie symposium, right? And they asked me to come down and be a part of that and speak at this rookie symposium. And I was like, great. It's going to be awesome. So, literally, we're in the lobby getting ready for this rookie symposium. And there are three beautiful young ladies at this symposium hanging out in the lobby. And they are dressed to the nines.

They are absolutely gorgeous. And you see guys spitting out their A-games toward these girls, right? Getting phone numbers. They're doing the whole nine yards. And this is great, right? You see everybody over there just congregate. Everybody getting phone numbers. So anyhow, we get about 20 minutes into the symposium and they say, hey, we want to introduce you

to three wonderful people who happen to all be HIV positive. And these three young ladies walk down there and you watch guys taking numbers out of their pockets and throwing them on the ground, right? Like you want to have an eye-opening experience. By the way, that chick you were just macking to, the one that you tried to get to come up to your room after the symposium was over,

yeah, she's HIV positive. So, guys, be careful about the company that you keep and make sure that you do things the right way. That's the learning curve here for the NFL to impress upon their players. By the way, what an their players by the way what an incredible strategy by the nfl that's maybe the smartest thing they've ever done at a rookie symposium because said ladies in hotel lobbies i think was much bigger back in the old school than it is now because it's a lot more locked down but my first couple years in the nfl walking through

those lobbies and just now they thought i was like an agent or equipment manager so i got out but looking around and being like oh all my teammates are targets right now potentially that is a learning curve and what you're saying though that this brings down the severity to the players because you heard patrick mahomes talk about how he was a little bit nervous he was a little bit uh he didn't understand how this was happening and then also you hear about dr laurent duvernay tardiff of the kansas city chiefs he's backing out because he said he's seen the effects of coven 19 he wants to get on the front line do you think more players are going to opt out because of this or do you think it's just going to be heightened awareness for all the players that are currently in there

i think mostly heightened awareness and you know how our league is built. I mean, 60% of the guys are on minimum wage contracts and 60% of the guys need those paychecks. So I think you understand that there's very few guys that can just opt out and say, hey man, I'm fine. I've made enough money. I'm good right now. Most guys in our league, the way the league is constructed, I always call it the 80-20 rule. 80% of the guys make 20% of the money. 20% of the guys make 80% of the money. So the majority of the guys that will show up because they need those paychecks. They need to play. And guys want to play. I mean, make no bones about it. Guys want to play. But I think the majority of guys will continue to show up and continue to go out there and play. And I think ultimately, again, this is one of those kind of eye-opening experiences.

And it really comes down to this. You're always going to have five or six guys on your team that are idiots. Right? I mean, those guys are what the rules were made for and the guys that we have to babysit. But this actually puts more onus on the guys who are professionals to do the babysitting, to make sure that they monitor those guys and say,

hey, dumbass, make sure you're at home tonight. Hey, I'm calling you. I'm going to make sure that I have my teams back by making sure that I babysit you. So there's always – every team has five or six of those guys. That's why we create rules. By the way, I was one of those idiots my first couple years, and I would assume that if this was the if this was my first couple years and we were going into

the season i'd probably get four to five phone calls a night from teammates of mine which would be expected by the way can we i don't want to sidetrack at all but i don't think i've seen vascularity on a bicep like i'm seeing on your right arm Did you just get out of a workout right there, or is that just how you always are? This is just me. I am surprised that I wasn't cast in Roadhouse. I think I came down second to Pat Lacey. I should have been. I had a beautiful mullet, and as a young guy, I was fairly ripped.

But no, this is just my arms in general. So you wake up with that thing just sticking out of your arm right there? You just wake up like that? That's like a little roadmap, you know. I go, hey, where am I going? Let me check my bicep. Oh, there I am. All right, let's talk about something that is very new school in the game

you're an old school guy but you have a lot of modern thoughts which is why i appreciate talking to you i assume you understand that the game has changed a bit from a player's perspective players have a lot more control in what they want to do we saw a lot of things happen levy on bell just a couple years ago sat out an entire season he ends up with the jets anets. Antonio Brown forced himself out of Pittsburgh, out of Oakland, ended up with the Patriots. Who knows what's going to happen there? You're seeing it a lot, a lot more often now in professional sports. Jamal Adams, superstar stud safety for the New York Jets, which a lot of people said the Jets would be able to build an entire defense around this guy because he's a perennial pro bowler and destined to be a Hall of famer he wanted out of the jets organization because he felt disrespected by joe douglas

now the first couple attempts to get traded didn't work then he came out in an interview and said hey this head coach isn't worth a damn we won't win with him bingo bango two days later he's traded to the seattle seahawks do you think this was all planned by jamal adams he said what do i got to do to get the hell out of here i guess i'll just say that our coach stinks. Do you think this was all planned by Jamal Adams? He said, what do I got to do to get the hell out of here? I guess I'll just say that our coach stinks. Or do you think that's truly how he feels? And how happy is he to be the hell out of there, you think? Well, I think he's really happy to be out.

And I think that's all part of the plan to get himself moved. Like, I'm going to do whatever it takes. And we saw this with Patrick Ramsey a year ago getting out of Jacksonville. Jalen, Jalen, Jalen. Yeah, got you. Jalen Ramsey getting out of Jacksonville. Jalen, Jalen, Jalen, yeah. Got you. Jalen. Jalen Ramsey getting out of Jacksonville. When you feel like the organization isn't going in the right direction,

and here's the other thing. You know, we've negotiated this rookie wage scale. We negotiate on behalf of ourselves as players for guys who haven't come in the league, and we screwed first-rounders. I mean, we literally put the screws to first-rounders because you know how this league works. Hey, listen, we'll sign you to a five-year deal. If we don't like it after year one, we'll come to you and say, you can take a pay cut or we're going to cut your ass,

and you're not getting any of that money, right? And so we've negotiated that, but the player who comes in as a rookie on a five-year scale, he's got no options. Like, if you don't deal with him from an integrity standpoint as an organization, we saw what the Kansas City Chiefs did with Patrick Mahomes, right, two years early. Like, there is a situation here where you understand, if I've outperformed my contract, man, you damn well better pay me. And for Jamal Adams, I mean, this guy is trending toward a Hall of Fame safety.

And you're looking at yourself going, wait a minute, I'm already going to be five years on a rookie deal. I'm going to five years on a rookie deal where I should get paid and I can't get paid. And so now instead of getting three contracts, I'm going to get two contracts at best. Like you look at you. We have put guys, we have put these rookies in a really shitty position that get drafted in the first round because we're not negotiating in the best interest of those guys because you and I both know there's a lot of guys that come into this league that aren't worth a shit.

Yeah. And so, like, when I'm on the negotiating council or if I'm a player right now negotiating on our behalf, I'm trying to make sure that the players who are there are getting taken care of. I don't care about the guys who haven't put a squirt of piss in the bucket yet. That guy doesn't matter to me.

Okay, you guys want to work the rookie weight shows? We'll give it to you. Sure. We don't care about those guys anyhow. To me, when people sit there and say, well, Jamal Adams is a bad leader. He's a bad guy. No, he's not. He basically has been put in a position between a rock and a hard place.

And he said, if I'm going to get a new deal, it's going to have to be somewhere else. And if this organization isn't going to do right by me, then I don't want to be here anymore. I don't blame him at all for that. We talked to Calais Campbell last week or the week before that. And I had no idea that he was traded from the jacksonville jaguars to the baltimore ravens here recently because he signed a two-year deal worth 25 million dollars or something as soon as he got to the ravens and he said the trade wherever you went was contingent upon an extension happening wherever you went do you assume that jamal adams also has that in there and the seattle seahawks do not have

a lot of money this year to potentially pay him long-term. And next year, they're saying the salary cap could potentially drop to $175 million with the losses of the 2020 season being spread out over the next four years as opposed to the 11 or the next year in general. Do you think it's contingent upon a renegotiation or an extension for him? As of right now, what I've read, it hasn't been contingent upon a renegotiation or an extension for him? As of right now, what I've read, it hasn't been contingent upon a renegotiation,

but I'm sure there's a handshake deal between John Schneider, the GM, and obviously Pete Carroll, the head coach, that, hey, we're going to get a deal done with you. He is such a great fit. Well, he's a great fit anywhere because he's so damn good, but you watch him. He can play free.

He can play strong. He plays in the box as a linebacker I mean he does everything blitz the guy is a phenomenal football player and he gives you so many options and you think about how Pete Carroll has constructed that defense over the years with the uh you know with the legion of boom and all that he's just such a perfect fit you're gonna go in there in a situation in Seattle, which is so good for you. I just can't imagine them not finding a way to get a deal done. And the thing about the salary cap to me is it's a soft cap. You know, if teams want to pay you, they'll find the money and they'll find a way to get you paid. If they don't, they won't.

I just don't buy the whole, well, we're restricted by the cap. You know, i heard that all year with the dallas cowboys hey we really can't you know pay back because we're restricted and then all of a sudden zeke elliott gets a contract and you know and amari cooper gets a guy you get a contract defensive guy contract the whole cap thing's a bunch of crap to me i agree it's all about how you can handle your business and whether or not you want to keep somebody around let's stay in that division for the last question because you mentioned it earlier. You were a

member of the formerly known Skins football team, now Washington football team named TBD at a later point, potentially. Watching that all unfold, obviously, a lot got exposed there. The toxic culture, the names gotten changed. Ron Rivera seems to be

the guy, the perfect person to be in Rivera seems to be the guy the perfect person to be in this opportunity to kind of lead them into a new direction Dwayne Haskins showed a lot of promise last year at the end of the season he's putting a lot of work this offseason they got young studs and they brought in Thomas Davis and Kyle Allen but this weekend news broke about a veteran player over there who whenever he was with the Chiefs was having an MVP run. He gets kicked out of town by Andy Reid because they want to go with Patrick Mahomes. He starts being a stud for the Washington football team, which we now know was literally a house on fire at all times that he was having success there. He has a nasty, disgusting injury that requires like what, 13 surgeries. He almost died. Alex Smith is cleared for football return somehow. This is a magical story in the sports world, sports medicine world, rehabilitation world.

What do you think happens with Alex Smith? What do you think happens with your former team, the Washington football team? And how do you see this all playing out this year? Yeah, obviously, you know, the culture thing is interesting to me because I always equate culture to irrigation. Water follows the path of least resistance. If you're not working on your culture every day, it's going to follow the path of least resistance just like water does. You have to be working on a culture on a day-to-day basis within your organization. And if you're not, it will set itself and it will always tend to, like I said, follow that path of least resistance, just like water does.

And, you know, I always think when you look at your lawn, there's always a dry spot or two that get yellow. And you're like, well, it's not being irrigated properly. Why is that? So the water just kind of walks around that because it's a high spot or whatever the case may be. So culture is very much like that. So the disappointment for me being a former member there of that franchise to see how bad that culture is, because when I think of the Washington, you know, football team and the mascot means nothing to me, like I give a rip. What you name it doesn't matter to me

because I think about the great people that made that organization awesome. When I got drafted into that organization, it did Joe Gibbs and the Art Monks and the Daryl Greens and the Monty Coleman's and Charles Mann's and Jeff Bostic and Joe Jacoby and Russ Grimm and the guys who taught me not only about how to be a football player, but how to be a man, how to be a husband, how to be a father. Like those are the those. That's what matters to me about that organization. And to see it get to this point is is incredibly upsetting. And that's why Alex Smith is so important. important. Like if you talk to anybody who worked in Kansas City with Alex Smith and you talk to them about the maturation process of Patrick Mahomes, they'll tell you that Patrick, that,

excuse me, Alex Smith was pivotal in Patrick Mahomes ascension to where he is now. And knowing, I mean, what does this say about a man when you know somebody's been drafted to take your spot and yet you invest in that man to help him become the best that he can be even when you know that you're going to get ousted like that says so much about alex smith as a person so whether he can play it's amazing that he's been cleared to play that's amazing unbelievable whether he plays or not i want him on my roster i don't care i don't care who i am that is important and especially in washington when you're talking about trying to read revamp and change the culture of that organization why would you want want that guy to be a part of of that organization i would

yeah i agree and i think he's going to be great for duane haskins he's going to be great for the building especially if there's going to be a new culture. Because, by the way, there's a guy who went there, probably could have helped out that entire facility a little bit more. He's gone rehabbing because he's damn near dead. Now he's back. Ron Rivera's back. Thomas Davis is there. And it feels like they're kind of trending in a new direction.

One direction I'll never go is away from this man that we just talked to, ladies and gentlemen. Absolute stud, Super Bowl champ, and yoked from morning to night, ladies and gentlemen, should have been in Roadhouse, Mark Stink-Schlereth. Yeah, Mark. My boy, Mark. Thank you. Appreciate you, Pat.

Take care, buddy. Hey, thank you so much. That guy, when he talks, he says good stuff. He went on quite a run there. Irrigation, huh? Be like water. It follows the path of least resistance. If you don't water the yard up in the high spots, the water's not going to go there by huh be like water the follows the path of least resistance if you don't water the yard up in the high spots the water's not going to go there by

itself you got to take care of that early and they're often what he said about jamal adams also big business move by jamal adams a lot of people think it was a personal reason probably started as that then he started thinking business-wise he got himself out of there this will be forgotten if he makes a couple big plays for the seattle seahawks but for that to happen they have to have a leak and they have to have a season joining us a man who is I believe the EVP at WWE but for all intensive purposes he is the man who created NXT which also is the company that houses Adam Cole, baby. A place that I have done pre-shows for in the past and also had Adam Cole on the show on Thursday.

He comes in here, breaks our microphone, breaks our headset, says F you to me, pushes Ty, storms out. This man said, let's talk about it. I said, let's do it live. Ladies and gentlemen, the head of NXT, big brained man, handsome man, and it's his birthday. let's talk about it i said let's do it live ladies and gentlemen the head of nxt big brain demand handsome man and it's his birthday happy birthday to mr h triple h

happy birthday i i know you intended to stand up to salute me but it was basically just crotch shot it's your birthday it's your birthday all right let's talk about this you reach out to me this weekend i said let's do this conversation live because i think people should uh at least hear it did you get a chance to see what adam cole did on this show on thursday what are your initial thoughts i assume you're calling to say hey sorry about how that all unfolded i did get a chance to see it um you know forgive me here there's a bit of an echo on my end video wise but that's our fault

I will uh I will deal with it but uh look here's the thing Pat I like both you guys and um you're both good guys you're both very passionate about what you do and to me this is all a misunderstanding.

Look, you guys have had a relationship for a while, positively, partially, and then becoming negative. And I think it started from a place of you participating in shows back in Indianapolis when you first came to a show, I believe. Yep. And you guys had interaction from the showbiz side of this. And you guys had interaction from the showbiz side of this. And I believe sometimes those lines get blurred and you guys had a relationship much as it was a fun irritation that was interesting for people. And then you get to this point where, you know, Adam calls me last week,

says, I'm going to be in town. McAfee invited me on the show. Hey, is it cool if I do it? I say, yes, a little bit in my mind thought,

I hope that goes well, not knowing it would become what it becomes. And I think everybody's hypersensitive um in today's world a little bit especially but you know i apologize for adam coming on your show he is the nicest guy in the world on a lot of levels um comes on your show there's a interaction between the two of you that i believe is Adam being a little bit overly sensitive. Kinker. And you, honestly, Pat, being Pat McAfee, which is your professional needle pusher.

Whoa, hey. Your professional button pusher. That's what you do. You needle people for a living. You do it very well. It's how you made a name for yourself. Well, I will take that as an apology. But so I do so i

didn't know that you knew he was coming on the show to be honest i had no idea so i am just now learning that you knew he was coming on the show whenever that thing blows up like it does and i mean i saw the reaction that i got on the twitter by the way by humans was next level through the entire thing and to be honest i was shook by it because that is not what my show is i think i think you know that i'm a button pusher but normally it's like ingest and fun let's have a good time here let's try to you know try to make people as relatable relatable as possible i think a lot of people were very confused about how up like how i mean he fucking flipped out i mean that was just next level is that did you have a conversation with

him immediately afterwards or how Or how has that gone? Because he has gone out this morning and put out an apology. We saw that about an hour ago. Have you talked to him since then? And how does this all go? We spoke. I didn't ask him to put out an apology. I didn't ask him to do anything.

I felt like, to me, this was him being on your show. He asked me if it was cool. I said, yes, he did the show. He's a grown man responsible for his own actions in a way and how he responded to it. But I think, Pat, I'm sure you've been in situations before where somebody, you're already on edge going into something. And I think that knowing your relationship in the past, Adam came on the show. Look,

Pat, I'll be honest with you. You know, when, when you come in our world from the outside, people are leery from the outside media, people, everything else.

And you've done stuff on our show and people have had fun with it. And, and you like to have fun, but in to some of those talent, you're picking fun at something you're not really a part of. And you like to have fun. But to some of those talent, you're picking fun at something you're not really a part of. And you're attacking people that they see you as a guy that, and you said it on your own show, bought a ring one time, trained with Rip Rogers for a few days because he needed the money. And then interacts with them sometimes like, you know, he's one of them. And I think they're hypersensitive to it.

And I think it's been a while because of everything that's going on in the world. It's been a while since you've been around in a bigger way. So I think those things stew in people's mind. Adam comes on the show thinking, this will be cool. Pat and I, we'll get along great. And then you do what you do, which I agree is probably in jest and probably at any other time he would have taken it in that manner. And it just struck him wrong.

And he's a human being. He's a man. He had a bad day, right? And it struck him wrong. And he snapped. But I also think, too, there were moments in there, and this is me talking to you, man to man. I think there were moments in there where he started to clearly get agitated, and you kept your foot on the gas.

I mean, I watched it back. I watched it back. I feel like I'm talking to my kids right now. I know you were irritating your sister, and you know she was about to snap, and they're like, no, I wasn't. I did. Obviously, I had to watch it back. sister and you know she was about to snap and they're like no i wasn't i did obviously i had to watch it back now i didn't just watch the two minutes that was clipped for social media i watched the entire interview back and there was obviously some times where you know i felt like he i mean if

i watch it back and i'm watching me right and i'm seeing my demeanor there was obviously a lot more i think of me poking the bear than I originally thought as soon as it ended. Right. There was a lot of that. But still, because it was you because you were having fun and it was in jest. And I get that. Look, I am the same way with people. Right. And and you do it because you like them and you do it because they react. And the more they react, the more fun it becomes. they react. And the more they react, the more fun it becomes. And when you're needle pushing somebody or your button pushing somebody like that, it's very easy for it to go to a line and

then go over that line for them. But it becomes more fun for you because the more they sell, the better it is to work for that reaction. Did you find them? Well, if I did, that would be between he and I. So that's not something I would discuss. And all due respect, it's not something I would discuss on here. Right. So whatever he and I discussed for us business wise is he and I in business. But as far as him coming on here to me, this is him as a man now coming to you and saying, I overreacted and I'm sorry. Right.

He put out an apology today. I didn't ask him to do it. I didn't ask him to do it. I didn't tell him to do it. I didn't talk to him about, you know, his, his reaction. He hit our interaction between he and I, from a professional standpoint, our business, how he handles it with you is different. And I think he's reaching out to you as a man to say, I apologize to you. So how do we get past this? Cause I do enjoy working with your brand nxt i i do i literally enjoy it but i mean i think it's going to be a bit difficult at the current i mean that's why i'm on the show you enjoy it i enjoy you working with the show i enjoy your interaction i feel like

you're refreshingly honest but with refreshing honesty sometimes comes great power. No, because, you know, it can hit people wrong. And I think that's what works in this situation. Look, to me, this is two guys. I'm sure you've had this on your teams before as you've played throughout your, I mean, you've had various sports and everything else. You're an athlete at the highest of levels in locker room situations. The guy you don't get along with and the guy that you almost come to blows with on your team ends up becoming the guy you're closest to sometimes

and the guy that you have the most relatable relationship in common with. That's what guys do. We get to the edge of fighting, and then we look at each other and go, oh, that's cool, man, and shake hands. And now you're close to that guy. I think that's what this is. I think there's a moment right now he realizes he made a mistake. He's reaching out to you to apologize.

I feel like if it's reciprocated, we move past this. I do feel like that probably at some point you guys sooner than later so that this doesn't fester. I think it should be in person if at all possible. I think that you guys get together, sit down, sit in the same room, be honest with each other, have the conversation, because I do think that you guys

would genuinely like each other. And I think you did in the beginning, and I think it just got to a point where it became something else. All right. I can believe that. I think that's true. Now, granted, he's apologize to ty who has colitis he almost broke this guy's back right here ty was just trying to de-escalate the situation almost broke his entire spinal cord i

mean there's no reason for all that yeah still kind of tender actually too yeah his neck hurts too yeah his neck or you but you were doing this is it your neck or your all right it's fine it's fine the spine you are let me just ask and i don't you know i want to be honest if we're calling an ambulance i want to call the right all right well let's do this it's your birthday enjoy your birthday let's figure out a time for he and i to talk because i did not mean to obviously make him get pissed off you're saying that he overreacted he didn't mean to react the way he reacted this does seem like a miscommunication. That's all I think it is. I think most things in life that you can look at on a grand scope and in the day-to-day comes to bad communication. If you miscommunicate with each other,

it leads to situations like this. I just think that that's all this is. And if you guys actually sat in the same room for a little bit, you'd be on the same page. Look, Pat, I'll open it up to you. And I don't know if Florida's on your plans anytime soon. I know you come down there sometimes. So anytime you're around, come on the show. I'll promote your show. I'll promote you just like we've done before.

But, you know, for you guys, and if you don't want to do it that way, if you just want to you and him sit in a room with nothing else around it and no promotion, not the show, anything like that, I'm fine with that too. This is you and him, man to man, but if you want to do that separately and because you're in Florida, whatever that is, jump on the show, whatever, cool with that too. If he wants to come up and be on your show, we can do it however we want. But I do think the two of you should sit

in a room. Alright, let's figure it out. Because I am getting married on Saturday and there's a chance I'll be in Florida. Now granted that for the honeymoon but I don't want my wife which by the way, sounds pretty cool to say right? Congratulations. Thank you. Congratulations, Pat. I forgot that was very soon, right?

Yeah, forever's a long time too. It's happening Saturday, Bob. Look at this. This is going to be, this is going to have a ring on it right here. Closed up, closed up shop. No more clothes for business, man. Well, you know, Adam Cole did a lot of that to me the other day. And I just want to know this one. I won't forget that. Okay. So let's talk. Let's figure it out. We'll figure it out. I appreciate you joining on your birthday and uh yeah i i mean i don't know

if it's gonna work but i would like to talk to him as a man i i think we should and just resume resolve this thing because i enjoy the hell out of talking massive amounts of shit on that pre-show over there yeah look it's and it's a blast you should you should continue to work with the brand and us and i love that the fact that you're a part of it and a big fan, but I also don't want one moment and one relationship and one little blip on this to affect that. So I know he's wide open to it. He's a good guy. You'll like him.

So are you. You guys will get along just fine. You just got to get in the same room and talk it out, man. All right. Ladies and gentlemen, we'll figure that out. Thank you for joining us. I can't thank you enough. Enjoy the hell out, your birthday,

the big 35, the big 35. Again, I think for like the 10th, 15th or so time, but yeah, it's, it's,

yeah, it's, it's, it's getting up there, but enjoy. I hope you have a great wedding. I hope that, that all goes well,

especially in this crazy time in the world. I hope that that is everything you want it to be. Good luck with the future and everything else. And I look forward to putting this whole other thing behind us and moving forward. And when things open back up, having Pat McAfee stir the pot on all our shows. Yeah!

Let's go! By the way, one more for the ride. One more for the ride. Ladies and gentlemen, Triple H. Thank you, sir. Thank you, sir. Thank you, sir. He did give me a text this weekend that was like a, I don't want to say like an SOS text,

but I don't get texts from him just randomly in my life. And then all of a sudden, I was waiting. I was waiting. I was waiting. And then it comes this weekend. He's like, I assume they had a lot of shit that popped off with their PR team, I'd assume. I'd assume there's a lot of things going on.

That was a good conversation. He thinks we'll get along. I'm not 100% sure, but that's probably the right move. It's probably the right move. I'm an adult. Is he? I don't know. We'll find out, but that is probably a good conversation to have.

Well, that's the show. Can't thank everybody enough for stopping by for a chitter chatter situation We'll be back Thursday Wedding week is pretty cool I mean this only happens one time in your life This is pretty cool I'm getting like the mushy gushy feeling

You know I'm looking at my lady in a fashion As if you know Forever is about to happen with this person. It's pretty cool. It's pretty, pretty cool. She's made a hilarious face. And, I mean, maybe that should be considered, but I love you, lady.

And I'm grateful for all of you. Listening to this show helps us all live out a very, very ridiculous life. Talking sports, talking life, and enjoying the hell out of each day that comes. Let's keep doing that. We'll be back on Thursday. Be a friend, tell a friend. Ty Schmidt, please play some independent music. សូវាប់បានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបាូវាប់ពីបានប់ពីបានប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្វាប់បានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបាូវាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់��រស្រូវតែរស្រូវតែរស្រូវតែរស្រូវតែរស្រូវតែរស្រូវតែរស្រូវតែរស្រូវតែរស្រូវតែរស្រូវតែរស្រូវតែរស្រូវតែរស្រូវ