The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 235 - The Future Of Golf, PGA Champion Collin Morikawa, Plus Legends AJ Hawk & Darius Butler Stop By For Some Great Conversation

Episode Date: August 13, 2020

On today's show, Pat is joined by NFL Legends AJ Hawk and Darius Butler live from Florida. They discuss the fallout from the Big Ten and Pac-12 postponing their fall football seasons, and what that means for players in those conferences, why we probably won't be getting a super conference after all, and whether or not they think that teams in these conferences will actually try and play a spring season. They also recap the wild 5 Overtime hockey game between the Tampa Bay Lightning and Columbus Blue Jackets and if there should be changes made to the NHL overtime format so that games don't need to be pushed back, whether that game is good or bad for the sport of hockey, and Darius could possibly become the NHL's new biggest fan. The guys also cover the premiere of Hard Knocks and why they think this season with the Chargers and the Rams will be much better than last years lackluster version with the Raiders. They cover Jalen Ramsey and why he's so good, whether or not Jared Goff has the it factor to lead the Rams to the Super Bowl, how each team is handling coronavirus in training camp, and why they're excited for the upcoming weeks (1:12-34:38). Also joining the show is the future of golf, becoming just the 4th golfer to win a PGA Championship before the age of 24 (alongside Tiger, Jack, and Rory) in just his 2nd major, newly crowned PGA Champion, Collin Morikawa. Pat and Collin chat about his incredible weekend at TPC Harding Park in San Francisco, whether or not he can feel when he's in the zone on the golf course, if he had any idea where anybody else on the leaderboard was at on Sunday, his thoughts on Brooks Koepka's comments going into the final round, if he has any superstitions while playing, what his favorite courses to play so far have been, how heavy the Wanamaker trophy actually is, and what is next for him (37:16-54:11). Don't forget to subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow as we will be doing a MASSIVE giveaway when we reach 1 million subscribers, and send in a picture of where you're listening to the show with the hashtag #ThisIsWhereImAtPat for the chance to win some free merch. We appreciate you all. Come and laugh with us, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Good morning. It is August 13th, 2020, and we have a great show for you today. Pat is still down in Florida getting physicals, doing blood work, doing all the necessary things he needs to do to get into the ring on August 22nd and punt that scumbag Adam Cole's head into the stratosphere again. But we still have a great show for you today. NFL legends A.J. Hawk and Darius Butler joined Pat down in Florida to cover everything going on with college football, the premiere of hard knocks, a little bit of life chatter, and everything else that's going on in the sports world.

And then later, we have the future of golf, newly crowned PGA champion Colin Morikawa joining the show to discuss a whirlwind weekend for him at TPC Harding Park in San Francisco. If you like this show, don't be afraid to tell a friend. And if you don't like this show, just act like it never fucking happened. Let's get to it. Darius Butler sat through three NHL games

last night. Loved hockey. Wow. Loved every second of it. You came in, I think it was the third or fourth overtime. Second overtime. Second overtime. Then I left. Then I came back and it was the third or fourth overtime. Second overtime. Second overtime. Then I left. Then I came back, and it was the fourth or fifth overtime. And then you saw the end of it. Yeah.

Congratulations to Tampa Bay Lightning beating the hell out of the Columbus Blue Jackets and Connors' bet, which was awesome to watch because he doubled down after each. Tripled down. Tripled down. After each and every single overtime. What a night for hockey at Nick Morado. I don't know if it was bad for hockey or good for hockey what happened last night.

The fourth longest game in NHL history was basically the leadoff game for the playoffs in the bubble between Tampa Bay and Columbus last night. Five overtimes, Tampa Bay gets to win. Dudes look dead. Was it good for hockey what happened last night? I think so.

A lot of mixed emotions. I think it's good because anytime like that, it's an anomaly, right? It only happens every so often. So it's in the Twitterverse. It's in the news cycle. Everyone's paying attention to it, whether it's talking about how to change it, how to fix it, or, hey, this is awesome. These guys

played two games last night. Why don't we do a damn shootout? Hockey shootout. It's not hockey. It's just a part of the game. Now, I said, we talked about this last night, maybe after two periods, you drop a four-on-four, maybe after three overtimes you go to three-on-three, and you try and keep the game,

at least the same aspects of the actual game. The shootout's just, it's just a guy, just one-on-one with a goalie. Yeah, that's everything, by the way. Everything is a game of one. But the NHL last night, I don't even know how those dudes, they almost played three games last night. Okay. They almost played three games last night.

They almost played three games last night. They have to be so tired. And then what? They're back when? Tomorrow? Yeah. They scored five points total. Oh, that's why you hate it.

Yeah. Yeah. A little soccer on. Hey, shout out to the goalies, though. 85 saves for Jonas Corposalo. That's a lot. That's a record, too, right? Playoff record.

Yeah, see? Ah! You got it over here. for Jonas Corposalo. That's a lot. That was a record too, right? Yeah. Playoff record. See? Ah. By the way, Darius Butler, massive NHL fan. If the NHL is watching, Darius. Huge. Yesterday, obviously, the big story was coming out of the president's meeting that happened with the Big Ten. And the Wetzel Pretzel that joined us yesterday, Dan Wetzel of Yahoo Sports,

who's been writing for a long time. Pretzel. Pretzel. Mr. Pretzel. He seemed a bit negative on the show yesterday because we thought that there was a chance that maybe the president's, the meeting they had at 10.30 a.m. Eastern Standard Time yesterday

was going to get changed because of the reaction from coaches and players and athletic directors. And it felt like a lot of people in big-name coaches were coming out and talking about this. And then the Michigan Harbaugh diatribe about how safe it's been. But then the presidents came out of the meeting exactly how I think we all thought was going to happen. Wetzel's negativity came out.

Big Ten postpones the season to the spring, okay? So they are going, the Big Ten is going to the spring. The Big Ten and the Pac-12, I learned this from a Lou Holtz rant yesterday. Okay, that went viral. Hey, Lou won ham yesterday. The real Lou Holtz. Lou Holtz won ham.

Not Ty Schmidt being Lou Holtz. Lou Holtz won ham yesterday. I did not know that the Big Ten and the Pac-12 had been linked together since 1946, whenever they made the Rose Bowl game happen. Is that something? You played in a lot of Rose Bowls, I'd assume, over there at Ohio State. Is that something you knew, that the Big Ten and Pac-12 were basically tied at the hip since 1946? I didn't know that.

Yeah, I had no idea, and I played in zero Rose Bowls, but I don't expect you to know that. That's not a thing that you should know. But I know the Pac-12 plays the Big Ten every year out there. I didn't know why. How did the connection even come about? Do we know? Were the two guys buddies in both conferences? Hey, let's do this. Let's share info.

What was going on in the world in 1946? Pretty crazy stuff, right? Yeah, right after World War II. Just got out of Germany. A lot of babies being made. A lot of babies being made. So then the Pac-12 and maybe the Big Ten commissioner took a trip to California. Took a little vacation. He was like, hey, what's going on?

She, by the way, very sexist to me right there. Well, 1946. So it's okay. Pretty sexist town. Very sexist. We don't know for sure. It wasn't us. We weren't there.

No, I was 87. I came in 41 years later. What do you want from me? But anyways, could have been a female commissioner or male commissioner travels to California and they just have a drink

maybe over there and they say, hey, let's do this thing. Let's bring these middle-of-the-country and West Coast together. 1946, they're tied at the hip because everything that the Big Ten did this offseason, talking about schedule, we're going to inter-conference play. We're no longer going to pay the smaller schools. We're going to do this. Pac-12 right behind them.

Pac-12 is doing exactly what the Big Ten is doing. And then it seemed like any time the Big Ten was going to do something, the Pac-12 was going to do it. And they always seemed tied to hip, and then Lou Holtz broke news that they've been together since 1946. So now Pac-12's dead this fall. Big Ten dead this fall. But there's some Big Ten coaches who are like, excuse me,

Michigan said we're still practicing. We're practicing right now. We're allowed 20 hours a week of practice, and conditioning meetings we're allowed to do whatever and i don't know if this is because they are trying to keep their team in shape to potentially make a move but scott frost of nebraska has come out and said hey listen we are going to do everything we can to play and kevin warren who has been the commissioner of the big 10 since january comes out and says hey hey he said something about if you want to husk your corn somewhere else or so like he made i don't know if that was part of his quote foxy did but foxy did i sent uh to the group

did you see that uh we are very disappointed and this is scott frost we are very disappointed in the decision by the big 10 conference to post Poe into football season as we have been and continue to be ready to play. Safety comes first. Based on the conversations with our medical experts, we continue to strongly believe the absolute safest place for our student-athletes is within rigorous safety protocols, testing procedures, and the structure and support provided by Husker Athletics. We will continue to consult with medical experts and evaluate the situation as it emerges. We hope it may be possible for our student athletes to have the opportunity to compete kevin warren came out immediately after scott frost said that and i don't know if we were the driving force behind the potential super

conference i don't know because we don't have a lot of journalistic integrity here so we can just start saying things like that and other people are like well you know the idiots on the internet were saying it so we can act as if it's a report And other people are like, well, you know, the idiots on the internet were saying it. So we can act as if it's a report. And I don't know if we were the driving force behind that or if this was something else. But everybody started talking about like, okay, the SEC is going to start taking schools now. The ACC, they're going to start taking schools now. Big 12 is allegedly forging ahead with a season.

Nobody knows if they're going to be able to play a season. But the Big 12, SEC, and the ACC have not come out and said we're not doing a season. And the thought was, hey, let's go and get justin fields at ohio state team let's get them down here to uh the sec okay penn state you guys want to play james franklin said we're going to exhaust every option you go down the acc for this fall and then kevin warren commissioner big 10 said oh you guys can all get the hell out if you want we'll take our 52 million back that the big 10 network pays everybody and we will never see you again. So there's a lot of stuff going on,

but it does feel as if that super conference that we all dreamed up is probably not going to happen. Don't you think yesterday we had a lot of hope that, hey, Big Ten cancels, the big-time schools, Nebraska, Ohio State, Michigan, everybody's going to go find a place to play, but then the athletic director for Ohio State, Gene Smith, comes out and says, no, we will not be going anywhere else. You think Kevin Warren told him, like, is there any way you can set aside

the thing that you're thinking about going and sleeping with another woman? Gene, please. Gene, help us out, Gene. My first year as a commissioner, Gene. I COVID, and then now they're talking about you guys going down to the SEC. Is there any way you can promise me that you'll keep your penis in your pants and not go down to the SEC, is there any way you can promise me that you'll keep your penis in your pants and not go down to the SEC while we make this decision?

Because if the Ohio State says it, by the way, that sets the tone for the entire Big Ten, right? Yeah, I think that's – and for Gene Smith to come out first, basically, and say, hey, we're going to attempt to play in the spring as well. And these tweets and when you say what college football is going to do when they said, oh, we're going to attempt to play in the spring, I'm like, oh, so you're not confident at all in this spring football deal. But it got me thinking earlier this morning,

obviously these teams are probably going to have a tough time going to join and making this super conference, but what about the players? What if Justin Fields wants to transfer? Does he get an exemption? What's the NCAA going to do? Are they going to make a ruin here soon? Because some players might try to take off and go somewhere they're just going to be playing this fall.

Paul Feinbaum, big brain, obviously. He was on Get Up, knows a lot about the college football world. He said that the NCAA lately has been very progressive with transfers because it used to be, what, your fifth year. If you were a graduate, you could transfer and play. If you didn't transfer down. If you transferred down, you could play automatically. But if you stayed the same or went up,

you had to sit out at least a year. And that was always, in my eyes, stupid because it was like coaches are allowed to get up and leave and make more money at a place and coach the exact same year. But if that coach who recruited you, brought you in, liked you, he goes and makes $8 million the next year, I can't transfer out of there to where he is, where maybe he's the guy who came into my family,

came into my parents' home and said, hey, I'm going to take care of you. I'm getting this opportunity. But I have to sit out a year. I couldn't do that. So it was always a very interesting thing. But the exemption rule, I think if you're the NCAA now, okay, and we've all talked about how the NCAA is just a,

I'm trying to think of a, they're a beta operation. You know what I mean? They are a full cuck situation over there. Second class. They're just sitting back watching everybody else kind of do everything, kind of in the corner. You know what I mean? That's what the NCAA is doing. Really enjoying themselves too. I don't think so. Not at this moment, they're not. No, no, but normally they're sitting in that corner and they are really

getting off on it. What's your deal? What's your deal? Anyways, you're going to talk about, you're going to talk, go ahead and say it. What? Go ahead and say it. What's your deal? What's your deal? Anyways, go ahead and say it. What? Go ahead and say it. Say what? Go ahead and say it. I don't know what you're talking about. You were going to say Will Smith did that whenever Jada... That's what you were going to say. It was in your eyes. It was in your heart.

And that is not what this show is about. We're in front of Mickey Mouse right here. But the NCAA now, for the good of the NCAA, if the SEC, the Big 12, and the ACC were going to play, and Justin Fields, that dude last year, if you talk to the people who are like the super quarterback people, like the Elite 11 quarterback people and all that,

they're like, Justin Fields is the guy. Everybody's talking about Trevor Lawrence. Everybody's talking about Joe Burrow. In like two years, Justin Fields is the guy. And then he 50 touchdowns or something like that, one interception or whatever the hell his stats were. Does he transfer, you think? Or does he immediately go and start training?

If I'm him. Gotta go start training. He's top five pick one year in college football. That's all he is. Gotta go start training. Has to. Gotta go start training. He's special, though. He's special.

He can do it all. We only got one year of him, thanks to Kirby Smart. But he's a special cat, man. He's real special. Well, transferring to Ohio State, I guess a lot of Ohio State people didn't know what the hell they were getting with Justin Fields, right? And there was a lot of hype around him. This guy's going to win a Heisman.

This guy's going to do this. And, AJ, you said right before we came on air here a lot of things, but the one thing you did say was that if it wasn't for Joe Burrow's best season of all time, Justin Fields probably wins a Heisman last year. And right now we're going into a season where the Heisman winner isn't even able to play. I mean, that would be a much larger story if that was the case. But Justin Fields has got to start training.

Yeah, I mean, it would be cool if he did go transfer someone else. West Virginia maybe if the Big 12 is going to play. Why not? Country roads, dude. Take you home, pal. I doubt he wants to transfer someone else. West Virginia, maybe, if the Big 12 is going to play. Why not? Country roads, dude. Take you home, pal. I doubt he wants to have a second transfer in his college career. But I said before the show, Justin Fields absolutely exceeded all expectations. I live in Ohio.

I did a lot of different radio things leading up to the season last year. And everyone just assumed, oh, this guy's amazing. He was one of the top guys coming out of high school. He's going to go in. He's going to win the Heisman. And I'm like, well, damn, this guy almost did that. Like he went out, and if it wasn't for Joe Burrow, he probably would have won the Heisman.

And so I think people, especially Ohio State fans, were super excited to see what he could do in year two with his Ryan Day system and everything. So maybe if Justin Fields would want to, you get a chance to see him do it, possibly at West Virginia. Was this Burrow at Ohio State at one point? Oh, yeah. Yeah, Ohio State. They had some stuff guys out i guess that quarterback room was like

haskins um borough borough field and then there was uh who's the guy before haskins cardell jones yeah i think there was like there's a quarterback room yeah that they had in there that was just like you oh oh they claim everything in the life i mean you guys were claiming everything at this point the dnd yeah here's a little that's what everyone says i mean they should bosa brothers now chase young oh let's okay bosa brothers watching joe uh sign his contract last night there with the chargers on hard knocks was kind of cool i mean that's the type of stuff i enjoyed watching hard knocks last night because we all have these questions on how the hell is the nfl going to make this happen okay if the nhl uh is only able to do this in a bubble if the nba is

only able to do this in a bubble the mls everything is only happening in a bubble in the mlb has been you know a bit of a a COVID disaster early here. We'll see how they finish. They're thinking about going to a bubble, though. College football, it seems like very much on the rocks at this point. How is the NFL going to be able to operate? In a large part of the show last night on Hard Knocks on HBO was obviously Tom Telesco wearing a For the Brand shirt. And then shout out Tom.

Shout out Tom. Tom's reason I got drafted to the Colts. And he puts on for the... And he knew that, by the way. Oh, he knew. This was his only appearance on the show. Okay? This was his only appearance on the show last night, basically.

And he knew that this happened. And I wonder if he was thinking about texting me or not. And then he was like, I'll just sit back and relax. Because as soon as I texted him, I said, I'm like, thanks or whatever. And he gave me like a point back, like, you got it, pal. Well, you know what was interesting to me was that was not the first day of filming, right? That was the day they cut somebody. So they were a couple days into filming there.

So was he wearing that shirt every single day off camp? See, a good sports show host would ask him to come on the show today. I did not. Because the guy's busy right now. And if you know what he's busy with, it's all these protocols that they have in place. The nose testing wasn't as bad as I think the players thought it was going to be whenever they sat down, and I thought it was going to be. It was the swab thing.

But how about the Rams just building an outdoor music venue? Smart. Genius. I didn't even think about that move. That was a very good move. Very big brain. If you're going in there, though, that's what they all say. I put out a tweet last night that was like,

the Rams just built an outdoor facility. That's genius or whatever. I go to a lot of people like, everything McVay does, people say he's so smart. Ask about that Super Bowl one against Bill Belichick. I'm like, I don't know if it was McVay's idea or whatever it was, but that was an idea I didn't think of. I was like, the NFL teams have enough money.

Just build at some bitch a tent out there well cincinnati well they don't have any have we seen anything did the bangles build an outside situation no they only have they only have actually that's all they have for their outdoor but you're going into that training camp though let's say you elect to play granted i do think a lot of players that maybe chose to sat out are probably watching a lot of their teammates and teams post on socials and watching hard knocks and potentially maybe thinking uh it seems like they're trying to do everything keep it safe but i i think that's going to be a situation we kind of have to watch unfold if you're a guy that elected to go though d but after watching hard knocks last night

how much do you think that changes your day-to-day because i feel like there's a lot happening and routines are such a big deal especially training camp training camps like boom boom boom boom boom it seems like it'd be a little bit of a different schedule you gotta be mentally tough out there to handle that thing yeah you got a debt man that's that's the name of the game but um you know i hated that guy by the way that was in the crappy locker room oh dion uh he's been caught what 45 times 45 times or something like that? And then he goes over to Jalen. He's like, wow, this is the stuff. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. All right, dude. All right.

Just, I don't even, come on. You're like the backup center that got COVID nobody knew. Just go get your ass in that locker. They always have that one character doing hard knocks. Who was the dude last year that could not hit people in practice? Jonathan Abrams. Oh, yeah. I hated that guy.

I liked him. He was just spearing people in walkthroughs. We had a teammate like that. Oh, we did. We did. Good old Landry walkthroughs. We had a teammate like that. Oh, we did. We did. Good old Landry. We did. We got to have Landry on the show at some point.

LeBron Landry, one of the greatest humans to ever exist. Absolutely. I think he gets a bad rap because of a couple of failed tests and everything that happened. That's going to happen. Which, by the way, potentially will with some people. Not with everybody, but yes, I guess. He was incredibly cool. Hilarious.

Oh, yeah. And I don't know if anybody knows that about LaRon Landry, but let's get back to this point here. What would your mindset be going into every single day? Because Sean McVay had to remind them, like, hey, we need you socially distant. That's like day three, that's going to stop, I'd assume. Day four, I assume, that's going to get forgotten i believe i mean i would

be concerned for i mean it depends on the locker room yeah because i wouldn't be concerned if i'm in a kind of a veteran locker room where guys i know going home doing the right thing but if i'm in a room with a bunch of young guys who you know you know how it's gonna go it can start out one way especially in training camp then you get into week two three of the season and guys especially in big city bigger cities or maybe it's more um you know more cases i would definitely be concerned with um you know a couple guys catching and then obviously i'm exposed because we're in the same locker room same feel so um it'll be it'll be it'll be it's tough it's tough that spanos family i'd never seen them in real life dean and john they were on the show last night obviously and they were talking to chris harris yep and they were like uh basically like pleading with

him to please like uh hey listen i know it's your life and your money on the line but it's literally our business and uh if you and the guys could just figure out how uh to just not do anything with your life here for the next six months we would very much appreciate it and that's kind of what the mlb is in the middle of right now as well the indians uh pitcher the the clevenger and uh the other guy got suspended one of the other pitchers came out was like these people are supposed to be grown-ass men and they're actually they can explain why they did what they did so people are getting very angry i wonder if the nfl locker room will be the same way i think so too because it's not just the, hey,

we're potentially losing one of our guys for 10 to 14 days in the middle of a season and it's hurting our team a lot. There's also a lot of like, hey, that my health is now being jeopardized by your lack of discipline over there. My family. Don't need it. My money. It's not just, you know, it's really, I mean, it's going to really be a team thing.

And you've got to be responsible for not only your health and wellness, but the guys around you, your teammates, your family. So, I mean, it's going to take some mature guys, man. Really, the locker room is going to be a big deal. Think about you guys. When you were on the Colts, think if Peyton or Robert Mathis came. It's like, hey, guys, like for real. I know you want to have fun or whatever,

but if you have vets like that that can set the tone early on, I think that can be huge. But every team doesn't have that guy. Every team doesn't have a Peyton Manning or Robert Mathis that everyone kind of looks up to and respects, and they've done things for many, many years in the league. By the way, look for those teams to succeed. Which, by the way, without the offseason, we probably already expected.

But those teams who have on both sides of the ball, by the way, because sometimes the quarterback is not going to have any say over anybody in the defensive room so you need somebody on the defensive side you need somebody on the offensive side and if you have a coach that empowers your players too i think that's a big deal today's show is brought to you by roman obviously everybody knows roman is the men's health brand that's trying to help you be the best you. Whether it's hair products, skin products, you name it, they have it to make you the ultimate you. The thing that we are currently selling you and informing you about is quarantine sex is a real thing, okay?

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Yeah, I think last year was the Raiders. The quarterbacks, you had Derek Carr, Mike Glennon. They both just seem like really good people. Like real nice guys. They're not like super out-there dynamic personalities. They may be, but at least they just seem like, hey, it's a good dude. It's like when you watch fighters or boxers, guys that are just good, solid humans,

they don't always sell the most tickets. It's the wild cards that sell the tickets. Conor McGregor, people like that. They had Antonio Brown. That was the only... That saga for one or two episodes, right? But yeah, that was great drama early on. Who set up the balloon thing?

You think A.B. set up the balloon thing? For the entrance? Yeah You think A.B. set up the balloon thing? You think somebody set it? For the entrance? Yeah. The hot air balloon? Yeah, he set it up. No, I think somebody else set it up. I told him it would be a good idea.

I don't think A.B. A.B. He was always coming to Sealer's camp in flashy ways like that. Helicopter, he came in one year, right? Yeah, he came in a helicopter. He showed up in a black and gold Bentley, I believe, one time. Oh. Old cars.

Pretty nice. Did you like when Ramsey came in the Brinks truck? Was that Ramsey one year? Oh, oh. That was last year, yeah. Let's talk about Ramsey. Yeah, he was in the back, though. Right?sey came in the Brinks truck? Was that Ramsey one of you? Oh, let's talk about Ramsey. Yeah, he was in the back, though. He was in the back. They opened it.

He comes out. Yeah, the guy came out. Yeah, it was great. That took the tone really good, I think, for his relationship with Jacksonville that year. You know what I mean? I think that really set the tone well. And Jalen Ramsey, hey, that highlight reel they showed of him

and how much he talks. Like, obviously, I love that type of player. But what he did to the media last night, I almost paused it, rewound it, and watched again. I'm like, this is exactly right. Because the majority of media are good people, okay? Let's get that out there. The majority of media people are very good people.

majority of media are good people okay let's let's get that majority of media people are very good people all you need is one bad person to kind of shade an entire group of people we do a lot of broad brush painting in our society it happens everywhere so i don't want to do that with media but there are some media who feel as if the press conference is their press conference okay they feel as if like the person that's up there speaking and i did zero press conferences this is just as a spectator they just act as if okay that person i want you to give me the quote that i need for the story that i've already wrote okay so what this person was asking you and maybe it's because they're so comfortable in their house you know what i mean like if i'm in my living room talking jaylen ramsey hey jaylen why don't you you know what i mean like there is a lot of that happening

but jaylen going uh that's for my agent in the front office to handle it. Yeah, but you, you know, you got to. Yeah, I'm just. That's not something I worry about. They'll be able to figure it out. Yeah, but you. And he's like, hey, listen, man. Because, by the way, Jalen is thinking about his contract.

It's a natural thing. He's trying to handle it like a vet, though, because things that Jalen Ramsey has done in the past has probably been viewed as childish or something like that. So he's trying to be a veteran on team. He even said that. Like, hey, I'm trying to be a leader on this team. I'm giving the answer that literally I feel is the perfect answer here,

and you guys are just trying to pry and pry and pry. Get off my ass. Like, I love that part. And I don't know if they were trying to make him look good or bad. In my eyes, I'm like, give me a Jalen Ramsey jersey stat. And he went back. And after that whole thing happened, like, the people, I don't know if they were trying to make him look good or bad. In my eyes, I'm like, give me a Jalen Ramsey jersey stacked. And he went back. And after that whole thing happened, the people, I don't know, the PR people for the Rams or whatever, they went and got him,

and he went back. DB, he's stud, huh? Yeah, he's top notch. Top three? He's top notch. What does he do best you think that separates him? Well, you saw his competitors. So a lot of playing D-back is – a lot of playing football of a lot of playing D-back is a lot of playing football period, but especially D-back is confidence, right? Because you need you're going to get beat.

You're going to get beat. Everybody gets beat. But you got to have that short term memory. Come back. And obviously you saw his confidence. You saw him talking. You could talk some guys out of the game like that. But he competes, man. He competes. He's a freak athlete. He's long. He can move kind of long, kind of long. The same Julio Julio jones like he's big but he can still move like a little guy so he can do a lot of things man is he like richard ball skills who's no way more athletic than richard sherman sherman i think is a uh more cerebral player and he's been playing the same system for a long time ball skills a little better

than uh jaylen but jaylen still has uh elite ball skills that's separate that whole jaguar situation everybody knew it was going to be ugly yeah i mean i didn't know that he was going to trade away two first rounders okay that's a lot hey for a corner and by the way immediate effect on the team too yeah and uh who got sent to baltimore and that whole thing marcus peters he had immediate effect on ball it was like it felt like everybody kind of won in that thing. But Jalen referenced last night. He said they knew the deal before they traded me about the contract.

He even referenced like, hey, there was already a conversation. And he's worth two first rounders. So I'd assume the Rams know that they're going to have to pay him. That's a big deal. How do they pay him, though? They can't. The Rams literally can't. That's why it's getting delayed, I'd assume,

is because they have to figure out how to do that. That's why they ship Gurley out and they ship cooks out you know what they could do they could do a patrick holmes type deal for him because patrick holmes not even in the top 50 salary cap hits of players next year for the next two years yeah but see you can get away with that with a quarterback corner you don't know it was a 10-year deal wasn't it yeah corner you're not playing you're not giving jaylen a 10-year deal no but you give him a five-year deal right you can spread out as much as you can but i mean they just put themselves they gotta you got to restructure with multiple players to make some room problems they could just push that song bitch to the back as much as they possibly

can and i assume by the way that's why they're in the problem that they're in right now is because there was a lot of that going on in the highest paid running back high spade quarterback highest paid d tackle high spade blah blah blah and that you know a lot of players kind of get painted in a bad light sometimes you're like oh look at the there's they're too much money they're so expensive blah blah it's like yo who put the contract together that's their job hey player's job is to play and get the money that they can get that's a profession very very short window to get as much as you can the gm and whoever's putting the contracts yeah like that's their job to handle so whenever i i feel like sometimes players get a bad knock on it

like well too much you're getting paid too much it's like who put the contract yeah what are they gonna do oh 80 million is too much for me actually you know what why don't you take 20 million off it just give me 60 which by the way they do ask they ask that gets asked a lot of very regular basis oh yeah yeah not after big after the contract is oh yeah and then plus we know a lot of guys get these four or five, six-year deals, even the Todd Gurley deal. Then they're shipped out of town after two if they don't take a pay cut. So the Rams aren't going anywhere.

They'll be around for a long, long time. I don't know personally. I wish somebody did. I want to know what the hell was up with last year. Did his knee hurt? Did McVay not want to play him? Orlovsky said the other day about how, like, Jared Goff, well, his O-line sucked.

So, also, was it the O-line? Like, because Gurley had a pretty good – he had, what, 70 touchdowns receiving and catching throughout those three years? I mean – I don't know. Goff, low personality last night. Goff, low personality last night. I don't know.

How did you feel about Jared Goff last night? I like Jared Goff. Do you? I do. Yeah, why? Let's go through some other people. Am I not allowed to think of – like Jared Goff, are you down on him for some reason?

What about McVay, though? I don't know. This is my thing. I like to look at people in their eyes and just see if I think they got it or not. You know what I mean? I want to know if a guy- You don't think he has it. I don't know if he's got it.

Maybe. I think he's really talented. But he feels like, and this is going to sound like I'm judging now, like, cool, laid back people. But I feel like a quarterback position, and I think we've had this conversation off the air i think a quarterback position you have to have like a like i think there's a type a like i'm gonna win every single thing i'm a part of so and i think a little bit you gotta be a little bit crazy and i think golf's cool like that like i like golf i think he's talented but i think to be that guy

like you gotta be i think you gotta got to have. How about Justin Herbert? That's exactly. They made him look real good. Hey, Pep Hamilton's over there, by the way. Love Pep Hamilton over there. Tom Telesco, Pep Hamilton over there. I might become a big-time Chargers fan throughout this entire thing. That was the nicest thing I think I've ever.

Jim Irsay gave me his plane last year. But after that, this guy, Tom Teleslesko getting me in the nfl basically and then wearing for the brand on hbo awesome move for a big time but herbert i did not know he was that talented right that and pep by the way poking him and probably oh yeah he's like well i mean i guess we can count that or we can just get out of here maybe after you hit it and then next one he hits the thing it's like maybe herbert does have that kind of killer instinct i think he's got it he's one of those guys that kind of got to pick it. He needs that edge.

I think so, too. He needs that edge. How do you get it? Well, Herbert, that was a knock on him before the draft. He was like this quiet, laid-back kind of guy. Small town. Oh, he's not like crazy type A personality like a lot of these stars in the NFL that play quarterback position.

It's a completely different world. But I think you can't get it, but I think you can try to – you can manifest it through. Let's say if you don't think golf has that. I don't know. Hold on. I'm not saying you – I don't think he has.

I'm hypothetically. So Darius Butler loves NHL. I don't think he has it either. He's talented. It's hard to tell. But you can – I think there could be defining moments in a career that would really help you

grasp that and become that guy. You might have to win a Super Bowl and be the MVP. Some kind of game, a comeback that you just, it kind of flips your brain a little bit and you're like, okay, well this is me. Like Mahomes, for instance. Super cool dude. Likes ketchup. He's got it, though. Do you see him

whenever they come back? He's got it. Running down the field. People hate some people that are like uh emotional and stuff whenever they succeed normally the reason why they are so emotional is because they're so passionate about what they're doing and they are legitimately excited i think a lot of people think like celebrations because some of them look choreographed and like forced and stuff like that but i love whenever people lose their mind and that is one of my indicators on if the person is like a like it looks like that person's a killer right there. And that is, that's the type of guy.

I think it's that West Coast vibe too, especially with Herbert and Goff being out there. He's just a little more relaxed, naturally, a little more laid back. Like, not necessarily in the game, but everything else. Hey, Rod, you got Brady. I'm playing with Brady.

Aaron's calm, cool, collected otherwise, but when it comes game time, then he turns it on. He's real intense, right? Like, hold on, Morikawa there, super there super cool super chill but that dude's a killer like that dude is a killer right there about to go uh get these birdies on 12 13 14 i wish maybe an eagle too by the way that that's like the worst thing i would assume you could do in golf is start to act like you're going to be good for the next couple holes because golf i guess is a uh it

will humbly very humbling game but there's only some people that have like for instance i don't know i know that i would not have been a good nfl quarterback just i know that i would not have been a good one because i don't think what it takes to do that like i you have to have but so you you it's you got to have your own like so patrick mahomes i think is completely different yes brady obviously like you you saw him mic'd up and they were down like 24 in the playoffs. He's like, come on, you feel it as a player because you got to know it. It got to be real.

It got to be genuine because you see some guys try to fake it, and that's just, you know, but you got to have that ish to you where – and I think Goff, where he does have an advantage, like McVay is kind of young enough where he's like a great mind, but he's kind of – he can relate to the players, so he can almost be another add-on to Goff where it's like a great mind, but he can relate to the players, so he can almost be another add-on to golf where it's like, come on, and maybe golf can pick up a little bit from him,

but I think that's what they need to kind of get them over the hump. See, here's a guy, Matt Ryan. I was just going to say, he feels like Matt Ryan. Loses the Super Bowl, and will he ever come back? Honestly. I like Matt Ryan, okay?

You don't like Matt Ryan. I do. I think he's a funny guy. You just don't want him to play quarterback for your team. He's MVP of the league. MVP of the league? Yeah, with the best receiver in the NFL. But yeah, MVP of the league.

It doesn't matter. Yeah, it doesn't matter. By the way. What are you saying? You could go out there and throw to Julio and be the MVP? Oh, absolutely not. I couldn't even sniff the NFL. I couldn't even sniff college football.

But. Bingo. With that being said. Matt Ryan, in my eyes. Goff is Ryan 2.0 potentially but matt ryan i don't know if he has the like the killer and they call him maddie ice though right so he does it he's down he's up 25 in a soup bowl that's the other guy on the other side of the ball yeah

but i think you need that a quarterback you need it so like that's what i'm intrigued to I haven't made it, but the other guy on the other side of the ball, he's got it. That guy is got it. Yeah, he's got it. But I think you need that at quarterback. You need it. So, like, that's what I'm intrigued to watch at Hard Knocks. And not that Jared Goff has proved anything to me. The guy, I've seen his house on video. He is incredible.

He's – Number one pick. Yeah. Jared Goff is a superstar. But I wonder, like, okay, maybe Russell Wilson got it. I mean, Russell Wilson'sson's got even though he speaks in cliches got it but a different a different yeah it comes across differently than others everyone in one way what do you mean what are you talking about this may seem a little corny

to some people a little mr unlimited you can't argue with that right it's awesome oh pat was telling me about the other day he sent me the videos This is one of my favorite things I've ever seen. I was like, oh, yeah, this is pretty cool stuff by Russ. His Mr. Unlimited video. Oh, yeah. You like that? Of course I did. What are you talking about?

He sent it to me. This is the best thing I've seen since my dad told me he saw Chuck Berry in person. I was like, jeez, how does that even work? Chuck A. Yo, that was horrible. I mean, even when I hear him like the Mr. Unlimited. The Wilson? Yo, that was horrible. I mean, even when I hear Mike Duck. We got to get to a break. The Wilson.

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Back to the show. Let's talk about great. Let's talk about a human that took over the sports world. I will say on Sunday when there was a a 16th hole and i listened to his celebration uh interview afterwards and he said the shot looked good in his eye which i don't know what the hell that means but i love that it happened and i hope it happens on a more regular basis because this dude is needed in golf he took a drive to seven feet put it home and he go to basically walk home his first major win at the age of 23 ladies and

gentlemen joining us now superstar golfer a guy who's about to take over the entire planet can't wait until one of the companies that he was wearing on his chest and hat decide to dump an entire brink's truck into this guy ladies and gentlemen colin morikawa. Yeah! That might be the best introduction I have ever had. That got me hyped. That made me awake now. Well, believe it or not, I watch golf every once in a while, but it's a napper for me, okay? It's a napper for me.

I'll turn it on, then I'll watch some, then I'm up like 16, 17, 18 holes. It's kind of how I think a lot of people enjoy golf to be honest with you but whenever you are golfing my friend it is something like back in the day I would imagine people felt with tiger golfing you are must watch and then I learn about you and you've been golfing since five you had a swing coach at the age of eight and then whenever you were answering afterwards whenever you you won, you were like,

oh, this is just the beginning. It's like you are built for this, Colin. And you are a godsend to the sport of golf and to people like me that enjoy watching on Sundays. Well, thank you so much. And I mean, I love every part of it. You know, you hope to work and do what you love. I love playing golf.

I love every aspect that it brings, not just playing golf, but meeting a bunch of people, traveling the world. It's been so much fun for me because my girlfriend has been able to travel. We'll go eat literally the best food, whatever city we're in, and just enjoy the week. How could you not have fun? Obviously, last week was just crazy.

I'm still living off adrenaline right now. They told you you couldn't kiss her, uh crazy i'm still you know living off adrenaline right now what they told you you couldn't kiss her by the way when you're walking off that yeah like i got i got yelled at by like three people that i couldn't touch my girlfriend who i've been living with now so it's like okay you know i'm safe she's most likely very safe she has not gone anywhere um but you know i said screw it like i'll give her a hug you know yeah i gave her a kiss later on um but yeah hey that's a cool moment you're gonna get a lot of heat on you by the way i assume from your families uh relatively soon especially with that operation i just went through it good luck pulling for you i don't want to

hey thank you thank you appreciate that colin Colin. The interesting thing I heard, especially as a person that was a punter, kicker, and I think pitchers are this way and golfers are certainly this way. I've always said that mentally, kicking and punting is much more like golf than it is football, right? Football is a reactionary sport. You kind of got to do your thing. When you're kicking and punting, it's you versus you, okay? And there's a lot of people that can do it. And there's a story floating around that at the age of eight, you got a mental, like a sports psychologist. At the age of eight, I was throwing temper tantrums.

I think I was potentially storming off. How does that work, and is that an accurate story? It's somewhat accurate. So the coach I've been with for 15 years now, since I've been a Rick Sessinghouse, he's been my swing and mental coach. So I didn't go to him at eight to find a mental coach because my my eight year old mental process of my brain was just all messed up. It's just it happened to be, you know, that's what he is also really good at.

And he loves the mental side. You know, he is all in about researching, learning more. the mental side you know he is all in about researching learning more um so yeah it you know that's been able to implement into my you know lessons into just how i've grown up um being a golfer and it's you know obviously helped me um literally transition from junior golf excuse me junior golf to amateur golf you should have hugged your girlfriend you should have hugged your girlfriend that's because you hugged your girlfriend right there. That's what people are going to say. Yeah, exactly. But, yeah, no, it's helped me literally go through every level of, you know,

until professional golf now. Let's obviously talk about that drive on hole 16 there. And you said in your interview it looked good in your eye. What does that mean? Like you just saw it and you're like, oh, I got this is is perfect is that like when a shooter gets in like a zone like when i yeah it's 100 it's like you know when it's it's not a feeling you can describe but it's it's in the you're in you're literally in the zone and when you hit it or when yeah when you know someone's shooting a three-point shot and they know it's in, when Steph Curry pulls up from half court and it's like he doesn't have to look

because he knows it's good, that's the type of feeling I had. I just needed a very good bounce. Imagine that. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Your first major, okay, in your first major championship here, you're in content, and not that you ever aren't. That's your career. You always are, which is so fascinating. Ment fascinating mentally i don't know how you do it but there it is 16 you see the leader

board i'm sure you know do you know what's going on around you at that point oh yeah yeah there's a huge i i knew at 16 i knew at 12 i was kind of paying attention all day but on 12 there was a party of us at seven or seven guys at 10 under. And I said, you know, screw it. Someone's got to take, you know, take themselves out of this. Someone's going to start birding. So, you know, let's make something happen. Yes. Do you say that out loud?

Like for real? Or do you just say that inside? Oh, I wish you would. I definitely shouldn't. Oh, no, I wish you should call. And I feel like you're the guy that actually. Hey guys, this is Colin Moriarty. I'm going to make birdie're the guy that live mics. Hey, guys, this is Colin Morikawa.

I'm going to make birdie on the next couple of live bets. I'm planning on making birdie. Absolutely not. You know, it all just kind of goes in your head. And it's not like I literally told myself that. But but it was it was a feeling of, OK, someone has to do something. You know, it wasn't going to be given to anyone. There's too many guys there at the top of the leaderboard

where someone had to do something. And I think that's how they set up the pin, set up the back nine for someone to make a birdie, someone to make an eagle possibly on 16. And fortunately, that was me. Have you heard about the cash-out king, a man in Illinois who won $1.3 million gambling on you a couple weeks ago and then another $400 million. I did see the tweet about the guy that won at Workday, I think, when I won back then.

He won more than I did. But in the long run, he won't. I tell you that. I can't wait to watch him. What's up, AJ? Hey, Colin. AJ Hawk here. I had a question leading into your final round.

I know Brooks Koepka had some comments about who was in contention and how much of a chance they had. Is that something that you even – does that even enter your brain? Does it change your game plan going in, or is that stuff you don't pay attention to? You know, it didn't change my game plan. I did hear what he said. And, you know, I think that's just one way for him to hype himself up

and to, you know, get himself focused. one way for him to hype himself up and and you know get himself focused i don't know him that well you know i've talked to him a few times i've played a couple rounds with him um but you know you i i just finished the last dance and it's crazy because i love sports and i finished it a few weeks ago literally i think right before work day um and you know the things you know jordan did to make things personal and to like get it in his head i think that's just kind of who brooks is too so you know that's kind of what he did and you know yeah he was taking shots and maybe they weren't really necessary but you know i'm sure that got him hyped up for this for the sunday round but what did it affect me

no i i could care less what he says really who uh the natural person for everybody to expect you to look up to would be Tiger but it feels like you have a mamba mentality which I guess Tiger does as well but who is the is Tiger the guy that you've always looked up I assume that's every golfer at this point but yeah I mean if you're if we're talking golf Tiger was a huge influence I mean how could it not be? You know, you can only remember Tiger's shots, Tiger, what he did, because he changed the game, and he still is changing the game. And I think it's awesome what he does for the sport of golf and sports in general.

But, yeah, you know, growing up, I grew up in L.A. I'm a huge Lakers fan. I'm a huge Dodgers fan. So we were carrying a Giants bag, literally, that looked like a Giants outfit the entire week so it was absolutely disgusting um and it's not even with me anymore I gave it to my caddy it is out of my house it's not sitting here um first major don't care get it out of here the mama mentality it runs it runs you know I definitely have understood um what that means you know to have that so you know it's there and I fully understand it.

Hey, you're, you're a stone cold killer, dude. Not a lot of people like you, like Adam Vinatieri, for instance, Adam Vinatieri is this dude that can just lock in like, unlike anything I've ever seen in my life. So I'd hold for him. I was his holder for the Colts. He'd be a regular field goal. He'd come out. I'd be able to joke with him. Like I thought I was a caddy. Like, Hey, I'm just going to like, keep it light out here here let's go ahead and knock this through hey old man let's go ahead name it that fat guy standing right there let's go ahead and do this boom and then a game winner

we go out for and i tried to like joke with him like the most locked in you didn't even acknowledge me so then after he takes a step back standard procedure for holders look back and go like you ready i look back i go you ready just stares a hole right through like didn't even it was like it wasn't even there ball goes through and then immediately after he does his fist bump still doesn't know anybody's there and then he like comes out of it i was like oh my god i wish i could do it i think you have that ability there's not a lot of humans that have that ability it is awesome watching you golf man nick what do you got colin we're talking a lot about your ability to focus and lock in here. And I don't know if you saw, but on the internet over the weekend,

Phil Mickelson put out his routine when he makes a coffee, which was insane. He's mixing 14 different supplements and substances just to get himself ready. He's mixing uppers and downers. It's wild. Do you have any, like, crazy pregame routine or ritual? Are you superstitious at all or anything? How do you prepare before you go out for a round um before round no i you know i i've been i literally just stretched for 45 minutes i mean i'm not lifting huge weights like some of these guys um that's just not who i am you know

i i want to end up working out a little more pre-round but do i have superstitions not really um i think on the course i've always got five T's in my pocket to start the round if that's a superstition. But I like to think of them as routines, you know, like, you know, screw the superstition, you know, name. It's just a routine for us. You know, we have done it every single day for the past however many years. You know, at this point, it can't be a superstition. If it is, then I'm screwed if I don't put five Ts in my pocket. But, yeah, hopefully I've got five Ts every round.

Let's talk about after you win there. Because you were so – now, granted, the want to make her the top of that thing just goes ahead and pops right off. I mean, what a situation. You handled that even good, by the way. And I like, by the way, social distancing. The guy with the interesting hair that was behind you there chose not to even help you pick it up you had to go get it it was perfect you handled that all well was there a moment on site oh look at that reaction lovely hey hilarious great watch too i don't know if they're paying you they should

everybody by the way zurich i assume taylor made adidas i would assume mega i i am actually an omega partner already um i was an omega partner so we got we got a champ the champion gets a watch let's go it's got 2020 uh you can't you probably can't read that yeah and then you've got champion right there hell yeah yeah right there um so yeah how fitting was that when does it when does it set in when is it set in sunday night like did it or has it ever or you just in the middle of it let's keep it going because you you've said on numerous occasions this is just the beginning was there ever a moment you were like okay me jack tiger and rory only 23 year olds to ever win a major here and we're on the same like it was there ever a moment of that or is it like everybody outside trying to talk that into

you i think it's just you know what everyone has to talk about because you know what i've done over the past i think 15 months i guess um but it's very cool to see that i'm in that company but you know being only 23 and being a year removed from college, you know, this is just the start. And the thing is, if I start realizing and start like getting satisfied with what I've done so far, you know, it's not just over. And, uh, you know, I just want to keep pushing that set new goals, set new heights. Um, because who knows what the limit's going to be, but we go back to that trophy drop, you know, screw it. Like I was literally trying to celebrate as much as I could with that trophy. And there you go, it pops off. And, uh, but you know what, thankfully i wasn't the first to do it um and but obviously the memes and videos and uh i'm sure that'll live with me forever oh yeah well

they'll show the 16 they'll show 16 and then immediately after they'll show that heavier than you expected trophy you're way heavier way heavier i mean that thing is ridiculously heavy what's your favorite golf course you've dominated so far? Probably that one, I guess, because you wouldn't major. I think Mirafield Village. Not that I've played really a year, but I still haven't played every course. Mirafield Village, Jack's Place, you know, that we played back-to-back weeks, I think has been one of my favorites.

And I think it will continue to be one of my favorites, not just because I won there, but simply because, like, it is a great track the clubhouse is amazing um and it's just a really good golf course do you is there some courses that you're this probably an ignorant question i assume you talk to people that know a lot more about golf than me on a regular basis so you don't get a chance to hear this stupidity but they're they talk about how some golf courses are set up for some players right like like some player like you dustin johnson like last year two years ago he was hitting the ball not as far as d shambo's been hitting it was unbelievable but there was like some courses where like the long ball hitters here are in a good spot is there any courses that you don't like you're not gonna talk like is there any courses that you don't like you're not going to dock like is there any course that

you have ever been like you know what that type of thing is is not good for me and i assume that's where you try to grow to yeah i mean there's a couple courses out there that you know i've heard about that i've played already um that just not necessarily fit my shot shape you know you talk about you're either a fader or a drawer of the ball which either mean you know you go left to right or right to left um and since i hit a left to right like it fits a shotader or a drawer of the ball, which either means you go left to right or right to left. And since I hit a left to right, it fits a course like Mirafit Village. There's a lot of holes. You can cut the ball and move it to the right.

That's how I hit it, too. Mine goes a little bit stronger than yours. No, you just aim farther left, and we all end up in the same place. You just haven't realized that you need to aim in the parking lot. See, I need a mental coach. That's the mental coach that I need right there. There you go. I'm helping your golf game. My guy.

Appreciate that. That's just part of it. You're going to play courses that sometimes don't fit your eye, and you just got to adjust. It's just part of golf. It's going to help some guys more than others. It kind of all evens itself out towards the end. guys more than others and you know it kind of all evens itself out towards the end well colin you're going to take over the sport of golf for the next 10 to 15 20 years maybe 30 golf 40 years

maybe geez i mean it literally could be the next 40 years and i think you're the perfect person to do it man you're incredibly cool this is all this is it's been really fun to kind of learn about you these last few days here because obviously i am a professional sports show host and i know everything about every sport but you they got the right guy here in you man it's really cool to watch thank you so much no i'm so happy to be on with you guys i mean i think it's so cool like when you put other athletes like you talk about steph curry coming on with us and watching us i think that's so cool because like i've gotten to know other athletes just moving to vegas now and it's so cool because they're so good at what they do and obviously we're good at what we do but like to show like the love and what they put in it's just like it's mind-blowing and that's that's why i love

sports you know well you're gonna be the face of sports for a long time colin i hope you get excited can't wait to see you break more trophies ladies and gentlemen this stud major 23 year old winner um what was your major cal business i went through the business school there yeah you did you graduate or no you graduate no i graduated i got my degree. Hey. Wow. Cal graduate, ladies and gentlemen, Colin Morikawa. Thank you so much, man. Thank you, guys. Whether you're working from home or working on your fitness, you want what you're listening to to be what you're listening to, not what your roommates or family are listening to.

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