The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 238 - #FightWeek Rolls On With Super Bowl Champ Trent Dilfer, Georgia Tech Head Football Coach Geoff Collins, NHL Insider Pierre McGuire & WWE HOFer/World's Strongest Man, Mark Henry. LETS GO.
Episode Date: August 20, 2020Today’s show is anchored by a couple of great interviews. First, Super Bowl Champion, Pro Bowler, and current Head Football Coach at Lipscomb Academy, 14 year NFL QB, Trent Dilfer joins the show. Pa...t and Trent discuss the relationship between Cam Newton and Bill Belichick and how he thinks that will all play out, how Tom Brady will adapt to playing in Tampa and Bruce Arians offense, if Phillip Rivers still has enough in the tank to lead the Colts to a deep playoff run, why college and high school kids need to play football if they can do it safely, his thoughts on the whole Alex Smith situation and what makes him tick, and he looks ahead to Lipscomb’s first game of the season coming up soon (:38-30:57). Next, Head Football Coach of the Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets, Geoff Collins joins the program. Pat and Geoff chat about the current landscape of college football and how Georgia Tech is preparing for their season, whether he thinks the ACC will wind up playing football this year, how they’re trying to manage everything to avoid a situation that will cause them to go on hold, why Georgia Tech is so attractive to incoming recruits, and how often he is in contact with the people ultimately making the decision if they will play (32:02-47:50). Later, NBC NHL Insider Pierre McGuire joins the show live from the bubble in Edmonton. Pat and Pierre chat about what the whole experience has been like so far, and how exhausting the whole process of getting to the arena is, why Pierre has been really pleased with the level of play thus far and the ice conditions, and who he thinks is ultimately going to be able to win the Covid Cup (48:09-1:01:46). To close out the show, 2x Olympian, WWE Hall of Famer, winner of the 2002 Arnold Classic, The World’s Strongest Man, Sexual Chocolate, Mark Henry joins the program. Pat and Mark discuss Pat’s match this Saturday against Adam Cole at NXT Takeover, and what tips Mark has for Pat if he wants to be victorious. They also chat about Mark’s career arc and how it was difficult to coming into the WWE as an outsider, the most weight that he has ever lifted, what he’s doing now that really brings him joy, and why Pat and Mark bonded so quickly (1:02:48-1:32:54). Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafee show for more #FightWeek content and send in a picture of where you're listening to the show with the hashtag #ThisIsWhereImAtPat for the chance to win some free merch. We appreciate you all for listening. Come and laugh with us, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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well hello it is thursday august 20th two days until fight day speaking of i am recording this
on my way to the nxt arena right now i have no idea what's going to happen tonight i'm recording
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I think you are going to enjoy the hell out of these conversations we have for you today.
It's obviously a wild time to be alive, and I can't thank you enough for choosing to listen to this show.
Let's get to it.
There's a lot of football news to be talking about.
Ladies and gentlemen, high school football head coach super bowl champion
and qb guru he loves that qb guru that got to a tongue of a lower drafted strictly off of what he
taught to a tongue of a lower ladies and gentlemen trent dilfer wow look at that beard dredge. I want to be now referred as Ragnar Lofberg.
Respect it.
Congrats, by the way.
I don't think I got a chance to chat with you since 201 number five to the Dolphins.
And I know you won't say take the congratulations,
but there was a lot of conversation about him potentially tanking there.
And you guys just stayed the course.
He's now going to be the quarterback of the future for the Miami Dolphins.
Congratulations on that. Let's talk about nfl quarterbacks and let's talk
about the afc east there's been a lot of chatter about cam newton and bill belichick and i would
assume that you have a take on this bill belichick greatest coach of all time i think everybody
agrees with that cam newton is like a brand new cam newton but there's videos of him dancing in
practice yesterday you have never seen come out of Patriots camp. Do you think this is potentially a new Bill Belichick,
and how do you feel like this relationship's going to go?
I do.
Number one, you just never count Bill out and his staff.
I mean, it's not just Bill.
It's that entire staff and organization he's built, the program.
I think it'll stimulate them.
I think all coaches at every level after a period of time grow weary.
I don't want to say bored, but weary.
And they need to be stimulated.
And I think losing Tom Brady, that's never a good thing,
but it can stimulate your staff.
It can get their creative juices going again.
I think Cam, especially as he's rebuilt his body,
it gives your staff, your offensive staff, a lot of creative juices.
There's a lot of things you can do.
There's a lot of young players that can go prove themselves.
There's schemes you can implement that they haven't been able to implement before.
It's kind of more Saturday football on Sunday.
It wouldn't surprise me if during this COVID, these COVID challenges,
that that staff has been taking a deep dive into Saturday football.
The quarterback-driven runs, the zone reads, the triple options.
I mean, these are all real things that the NFL community mocked five, six, seven years ago.
But you could see the trends going from actually Friday night to Saturdays and now to Sunday.
So I would never count that staff out.
Now, do I think they're a Super Bowl champion type caliber team?
No, I wouldn't go that far.
But I think they're a team that can make a deep run as they usually do.
Okay, let's stay with New England Patriots as a talking point.
Tom Brady's exit, obviously, from the New England Patriots
captivated headlines everywhere because it's greatest player of all time,
greatest coach of all time separating.
And for a lot of people thought it was drama reasons.
Now they both put out their statements,
obviously talking about how they have a lot of respect for each other and
blah,
blah,
blah.
But after six Superbowls,
20 years,
I think they're both excited for a fresh new start somewhere.
And if you listen to Joe Montana,
talk about how Tom Brady and he had a conversation,
which I would assume Tom's not happy that Montana just went ahead ahead and just talked about their private conversation i don't know your quarterback
world but i'd assume that is one that is not going to be loved there but now tom and he said this
yesterday he said this is the first time in my 30-year football career even going back to peewee
high school and everything that i had a offensive minded coach what does that mean with bruce arians
and tom like what does that mean for tom's career what does that mean with Bruce Arians and Tom? What does that mean for Tom's career?
What does that mean for Tom's play?
And how much does that help a quarterback if the head coach is on the same page?
Did you see last year, it was talked about a lot with Tom's play.
He still played really well, but there seemed to be a burden at times.
There wasn't quite the same body language at times.
There was more discouragement.
He seemed more frustrated, especially early in the season I think a lot of that now goes away I think excitement youthful exuberance
that aggressive gene that all quarterbacks have could kind of flourish I'm not saying it's a match
made in heaven but it definitely from an standpoint, can take 10 years off.
Rewind the clock 10 years.
I think he's going to have fun.
Look, it's this simple.
He's read things up his whole career.
So low to high.
That's just the way that system is built.
It's a really good way of playing.
It's how Joe Montana played.
It's how Steve Young played.
They read everything up, low to high.
Now they're going to read everything high to low.
So his eyes are going to be aggressive.
He's going to have more of an assassin's mentality at the line of scrimmage.
Now there's risk involved in that.
You may see a more turnover-prone Tom Brady because he's going to take more chances,
but you're going to see more explosives too.
And I think that can rewind the clock 10 years,
let him have a little more fun playing the position.
What else more can he accomplish?
I know he's enjoying the leadership role there.
I've talked to some people that have been down there
and kind of watched the operation,
and he's taken on kind of the coach's hat as well,
so he's coaching all the young guys, becoming a mentor.
I think all this stuff for Tom Brady is really, really exciting,
and I think you're going to see a more youthful Tom Bradyady is that why the quarterbacks in that system tend to get killed
because you're waiting for the play to develop almost and then you got to read back is that
something that tom with his years of experience and understanding defenses will that help him in
that case or should we expect to see tom get killed a little bit. No, no, I think it will. Tom's not dumb. We all know that.
So I think discretion will win out over aggression. I think he'll have these opportunities.
Like every play in this system has a vertical home run opportunity. Every play. There's not
one where everybody's going to run in a hitch at six yards. There's always some kind of matchup.
There's always a vertical. There's always a, hey, if you see this, they make the mistake, take a shot. I think Tom's pre-snap game and even the
first second after the ball snapped, his eyes will be looking for that. But about a second and a half
into the play, he's going to realize, hey, now's not the time. Let's use discretion. And now his
full field reading ability, his feel for the game you'll
still you'll still see him get the ball a lot uh check the ball down off a lot throw the intermediate
stuff the piercing throws i just think you'll see more big chunk type plays over the course of 16
weeks so when he had randy randy yeah oh i mean it was awesome obviously they broke a lot of records
but it was cool to watch tom kind of throw the deep ball.
And, like, when he got Randy, I mean,
getting mossed is still something that is used to this day
because of, you know, who Randy is.
And he's even on ESPN Monday Night Football countdown
in a full suit and a punt goes up, and he's ready.
I mean, Randy is always tracking the ball.
But now he's got a guy in Mike Evans who can go and get it, right?
And Godwin that can go and get it. And the reports out training camper that he's throwing 60 yard dimes the conversation whenever he was going to the bruce aaron's offense wasn't
only like hey he's going to get killed he's going to get hit but tom's too old to throw the ball
that far i talked to clyde christiansen i believe a man that you know rather what do you know clyde
pretty well i talked to clyde you're my best friend friend Clyde is the man so when when I had Clyde on the show quarterback coach he was Peyton's
coach he was Lux coach he's been a incredible quarterback coach he broke in with me so he
learned all the wrong literally he'll tell you this I learned all the mistakes not to make with
Peyton because he left me as my quarterback coach and went and coached Peyton okay so he's got Trent
Dilfer he's got Peyton Manning. He's got Andrew Luck.
He's got Hasselbeck a little bit, but he is tied to a lot of great quarterbacks.
And I asked him on the show, I was like, hey, people are saying that Tom's arm isn't what it used to be.
And he goes, right, right, right.
Well, when watching film, right, we saw nothing that would say that.
If you watch.
That's good.
Thank you.
So he said, if we watch film, none of the film that we watch indicated that
tom has lost any but there wasn't as many opportunities which i think people would
judge him for do you think tom at that age i mean he's a little bit older obviously now tb12
treatment i think yeah kind of younger it makes you younger and it makes you immune and everything
like that makes you attractive i think and all that stuff whatever it does but you must be doing
it yeah he is yeah but do you who me say it did you say me yeah yeah
thank you hey i got a big cheat day coming on sunday don't you worry about that i will be fat
again but the um do you think the age and the arm strength is something that they should worry about
or tom's worried about because last year there was a couple chances for him to thread a needle
at like 20 30 yards and they were on an absolute rope Is that just a false narrative that people are putting out there
just because they want to believe that Tom's going to stink?
Total false narrative.
His mechanics are so tight.
He maximizes every bit of juice in his body.
He still has a top 10, 12 arm in the NFL.
The biggest thing, too, the analogy I'd give is Phil Mickelson as a golfer.
He's 51, I think, and he's added 10 miles per hour
to his club headspace.
Hitting bombs.
Bombs.
I mean, that's all he cares about.
He doesn't even care about shooting 65 anymore.
He just wants to hit it further than everybody else.
But through proper mechanics,
there's been so much science over the past 10 years on how to get the body
to move better and more efficiently.
Just imagine how much further you would have punted it.
If you know all this stuff,
it's,
it's amazing how these old guys are hitting bombs on the golf course.
It's the same thing with quarterback play.
If you can maximize everything in your body,
you're not going to lose
any velocity whatsoever or power in terms of distance it would not surprise me at all
if he's throwing multiple 55 yard passes in the in the era game okay so let's talk about another
older quarterback it was it came out that the coach chose philip rivers over tom brady now
chris ballard wouldn't confirm that to me when I talked to him on draft night,
but I said, there's reports that Tom Brady was interested in playing for the Colts,
and you guys obviously want Phil Rivers, so you picked Phil Rivers over Tom Brady.
And he said, I will not confirm nor deny that report, is what Chris Ballard said.
So that seems like a potential.
We heard that there was potential interest, but we went with our guy because he knows the system.
Phillip Rivers, though, is going to an Indianapolis Colts team in a loaded afc i mean we just talked
about the patriots are always going to be good and then obviously the kansas city chiefs i don't
know how they're getting this money in the salary cap they're keeping all the horses together somehow
and they got patrick bones is an unbelievable but the colts last year before jacoby got hurt
we're a team that was ready to go the defense is great the offensive line is good i think they need
to still bring in another weapon to help T.Y. Hilton,
but they've got a loaded backfield.
Phillip Rivers, is his arm going to be able to last for an entire season
if they're going to make a Super Bowl run here?
And is he a guy that, just like you said about Tom,
almost has gotten better with age?
Well, I was a skeptic, actually,
and I've been Phillip's biggest fan his whole career.
But I was a skeptic. actually. And I've been Phillip's biggest fan his whole career. But I was a skeptic.
And I was talking to Frank Wright, and he challenged me to go back
and watch big boy throws through last season.
Because the narrative around Phillip Rivers is that his arm has gone down.
He can't push the ball down the field.
He looks old and decrepit.
And Frank just challenged me.
He said, watch the tape.
Here's some clips to go watch.
Here's some games.
Here's some cut-ups.
And I went and watched them.
And he had as many deep ball completions as anybody in the National Football League.
I mean, he's still pushing the ball down the field.
It looks different, and I can see why people say it.
But, yep, he still has the ability to push the ball down the field.
And I think this is a great example, too, of kind of an organization,
how they built the offense, how they built the offensive line.
They know that they can support an older quarterback with that offensive line, with the loaded backfield,
with all those different things that can really maximize what he has left in the tank.
And again, if you're getting stops because you have a good defense and you're controlling the clock because you have a big offensive line
and you have multiple runners,
the quarterback then capitalizes on the few opportunities he has downfield.
He doesn't have to throw it 40 times a game.
He doesn't have to take 12 hits a game.
And then you know Phillip Rivers, and you get in a jam,
you're down seven points, you're down 10 points,
you know he has the ability to put the pedal to the metal and get you points and get you back in the game.
You're going to say foot on the throat and get back into it.
I would not thank you.
Yeah.
Oh, I think maybe.
I have to be very, very careful these days.
Yeah, I was about to say, I think a kid maybe walked into your office in the middle of that.
Are you?
You know what?
An old kid did.
This is a surprise for you.
Phil Dawson.
Legend!
Texas legend!
Phil, what's going on?
He could probably still kick a kickoff out of the back of the end zone
if I had to guess.
Is that accurate, Trent?
No doubt.
With a good wind at my back.
Oh, Phil, you are the man.
Living legend Phil Dawson, by the way.
Kick for the Browns, kick for the Niners, kick for the Cardinals.
And was somehow at the age of 70 still kicking off.
That guy, unbelievable to watch.
He's the same with our kickers.
He's out there every night kicking balls,
even with his broken hip and all that stuff.
He still thinks he's got it.
You've got a big game this weekend.
Is he on your coaching staff?
He is.
Special teams coordinator, doing an incredible job with the kids,
doing an incredible job with the team.
Let me tell you the first time we met as teammates,
opening drive of what season was it
oh five move your head into the camera phil there we go it's all out on offense trent's all upset
he's coming off the field i'm running on for a field goal he's like you better make this kid
if you'd done your job i wouldn't be out here
that's literally what he walked on the field.
Phil only played, I think, 37 years of the NFL.
Absolute legend of a man.
Don't cut him out for still playing.
He might be the only dual high school football coach, NFL kicker.
Be careful.
How's the team?
Are you enjoying this coaching?
I mean, we're obviously in a COVID world right now.
There has to be a lot of stuff you've got going on.
A lot of challenges. I don't know where to start i want to eat up your whole show it's been a real lifetime uh i feel like i was called to do it
um i have these two signs on my wall one says do hard things one says at the edge of
uncomfortable is where you find greatness oh and uh boy I'm having to live that because I'm having to do hard things and I'm very uncomfortable.
You really have to.
It's almost like a parent.
Every decision you make really doesn't have to do with you.
It has to do with the kids.
And now you have 100 plus of them.
And then you add COVID into the mix.
And who do you trust?
Right.
What are you listening to? Obviously, player, parent, grandparent, safety, community safety is number one, but mental
health is a big part of it too.
Oh, yeah.
And you have to balance, you know, I really trusted the governor.
I trusted our headmaster.
I trusted our AD.
I trusted the data we've been able to capture from a lot of different areas.
But just being around them, like just taking the parent hat on and saying, what are these kids need the most? And they really need an outlet.
They really need something bigger than themselves. They need community. I've hated this term since
day one. I hated this social distancing term, physical distancing. Yes, absolutely. If that's
what the experts are telling us to do, let's physically distance. But socially, these kids
need social interaction.
They need connection.
They need tribe.
They need community, whatever you want to package it as.
And football gives them that.
There's also something that hasn't been talked a lot about.
We have a lot of really good football players that are going to get their secondary education
paid for if they play football.
You don't play football in a lot of distressed communities around the country
and even affluent communities, and these kids are not going to have the chance to get their
secondary education paid for. So we probably have 11 scholarship players on our team right now,
maybe more if you count our sophomore class. These kids need the opportunity to get their
college paid for, their mental health is at stake, and we have done everything.
And it's been an honor doing it, but it's been exhausting.
The amount of money we put in for safety protocols, the thought leadership in our institution
around safety protocols, the kids have really taken upon themselves to own it.
They don't, you know, they're kids, so you kind of have to be on them all the time, but
they get it. They get that protecting the you kind of have to be on them all the time, but they get it.
They get that protecting the tribe, protecting their school, protecting their families.
There's some sacrifice there in what they're doing when they're not with us.
And here's the other thing. When they're not with us, they're probably doing something more dangerous
than when they are with us. And that's the number one conversation here when it comes to football in general.
We can protect them more
than when they're not under our care.
And that goes for high school,
that goes for college,
that goes for the NFL.
They are going to be safer in our environment
and their families will be safer in our environment
than if we just let them go scatter.
How many, by the way,
that was,
I felt like I was just in a team meeting right there you said this is your your calling i think it's potentially
your best asset that was an incredible speech right there but you're obviously watching
incredible by the way that was really awesome to hear you say that but you're watching this
college football conversation happen right now i would assume and you're now in the high school
football world you have a game this weekend is this your first game this weekend
first game friday night yeah is there good luck obviously we're pulling for 11 scholarship kids
i mean you guys are ready to go but the uh not counting the sophomore class there's probably
five more in there let alone if phil dawson's with the kickers there's probably two more on there
but let's uh yeah let's keep it going up there but have you watched the college football thing
unfold at all,
or have you been so busy?
It seems like now Herb Street was on yesterday,
and Herbie, he's in the same city as you right now.
Herbie knows everybody, right?
So when Herbie's saying something, and he said something on our show yesterday,
I understand that Herbie's opinion is coming from all the information
that he has from everybody.
And he's saying it feels like this is just a delay, delay, delay,
an inevitability, a cancellation is going to come for everybody,
even though the SEC, the ACC, and the Big 12 says they're going to keep going.
You're doing this high school football thing with 107 kids,
which is the same size as a lot of college rosters.
Would it be possible, you think, to do the college football?
Or do you think that with the way things are going in the college world
that you also, there's no chance of it popping off?
You know, Pat, I made this mistake when I was was on tv that's probably why you hated me so much
there were times i would talk about things i didn't know oh like kicking and punting is still
still in there yeah well he gave me all those things bad things to say about yeah yeah yeah
i'm just kidding um i don't know they have challenges that are so far greater than mine. And mainly it comes
with crossing state borders. Mainly it, that's, that's the big element that we don't have to deal
with in the high school space. They also have institutions where they're, they're going back
into classrooms or on campuses with 20, 30, 40, 50,000 kids. It's a different age group, right? They can drink,
they can go out and they can go to bars. They can have social lives. They're a little more dynamic
than a dorky little 16 year old boy, right? That's playing when he leaves us, he's playing.
What's the video game they all play? Call of Duty. Thank you. Dungeons and Dragons. So that's
about as much trouble as our kids are going to get into staying up too late playing call of duty so um there's just different challenges and i don't want to pretend to know
what's going on in those athletic director meetings and board meetings and president
meetings and all that stuff i do know this though that if they lose it um there's going to be a
tremendous fall with the mental health capacity there's going to be a issue there's going to be a tremendous fallout with the mental health capacity. There's going to be an issue. There's going to be a major fallout with home issues.
There's going to be a lot of auxiliary or shrapnel, let's call it.
There's going to be a lot of shrapnel that happens if there's not football.
The goodness of football is the topic that I think has been lost here.
And I think you get it.
I think the football community gets it.
Anybody that's played it gets it.
Unfortunately, a lot of the decision makers don you get it. I think the football community gets it. Anybody that's played it gets it. Unfortunately, a lot of the decision makers don't get it.
They don't get that there's football, the game we play, the game we love,
the economic impact that it has.
And unfortunately, that becomes the focus.
When really the greatest thing about football,
and every high school player that's watching your show,
and I know there's millions, is going to go,
yes, is the goodness of football. The goodness of football does more for a young football player's
life than maybe any other influence in their academic track. And it doesn't have, it sometimes
has nothing to do with what happens between the lines. They learn lessons that they wouldn't learn
in other arenas. They learn lessons they don't learn in the classroom. They learn figure it outness.
They learn critical thinking.
They learn grit.
They learn all these things that, you know what makes them?
Makes them super, uber successful like you,
and CEOs, and fire chiefs, and lawyers, and whatever it is.
That's why ex-football players go and dominate the world.
Because they've learned these lessons, hard things, being
uncomfortable, overcoming adversity, learning to love and be part of something bigger than yourself,
learning to integrate with people that grew up different than you. What a novel thought.
That's a big one.
There's a sport that could bring people from different social, economic, ethnic, whatever, backgrounds together and say, we are exactly the same.
And we have the exact same purpose in mind,
and we're all trying to do this together.
I mean, I really think our world needs a dose of a week of football.
Like the whole world just needs a dose of Bill Belichick coaching you.
If Bill got to coach the world in one week,
I bet you the world would be a better place.
So that's the topic that hurts me here is that that global conversation,
the goodness of football hasn't been at the forefront,
and we're trying to keep it at the forefront here.
Trent, these are two – you're in this head coach role right now.
He has two speeches that got people ready to run through a wall here.
I do believe, like I was a soccer player growing up,
which it's its own culture, its own environment.
I played other sports.
But once I got in that football locker room, it was just a different world.
It really was just a completely different place because you got humans of all
builds, all makes, all sizes, all with one goal coming together.
And then those workouts are a nightmare.
And everybody gets through it.
Brutal.
And everybody gets through it together.
I mean, that type of thing, by the way,
and when you said it's people that haven't played football
that are making these decisions, it's also sometimes,
and I don't want to ever generalize here,
there was a war on football like four or five years ago, right?
Yeah.
And the people that were having that war on football were a lot of the academic people a lot of super science doctor
people because there's obviously inherent risk when it comes to football i mean there's something
that happens but good outweighs the bad in a lot of cases especially in football by uh by a large
mean but those people are now making the decision on whether or not football happens it's like
well they kind of got us by the gut set.
You got it.
Diggs, what do you got?
You got it.
Oh, yeah, go ahead.
I just have one question for you, Pat, before we end.
And I can go as long as you want.
I just want to hijack your show, but go ahead.
No, Trent, by the way, Tuesday, there's not really much to talk about.
We let off with a guy getting yelled at for hitting a grand slam last night.
I mean, there's not much. That's why you have me on on Tuesday.
Let me be your Tuesday filler guy.
Hey, Tuesday, Trent, here we go.
What do you got, Diggs?
What do you got?
Trent, I wanted to ask you if you've stayed in contact with Tua after the draft,
and what kind of situation is he going into with Ryan Fitzpatrick
in his quarterback room to lead him?
Yeah, I really don't.
I've always made it a point with my relationship with a lead 11 guy,
a college guy, because I hated it when i was playing when all like the people from your past
were talking to you all the time and checking in on you checking in on you so we've texted a few
times we dm every once in a while i talked to his parents off and on um every sign has been good
he's been excited oh i went black no you're. No, you're good over here. You're good over here. Yeah, my screen went black.
All signs are good. He's been excited.
He's been excited about the opportunity.
Ryan is the ultimate pro.
I like Ryan. I think
Ryan's the ultimate guy to have in the locker room. And I tried
to be this at the end, especially with Alex
Smith, where you're helping.
You're giving him all the information
you have from your years of experience.
But you're not handing it over on a silver platter and saying,
oh, it's yours to have.
Take my job.
It's no, I'm going to help you be the best you can be, but come get me.
I'm going to go out to practice every single day.
I'm going to attack every meeting.
I'm going to attack every weight session.
I'm going to attack every team leadership opportunity as if I'm the dude.
And if you can see how that's done and you have your own way of doing it, great.
Do it.
We don't need to be competitive with the leadership thing,
but let's compete every day on who can be the best guy on the field,
the best guy in the locker room, the best guy in the weight room.
And I think Ryan will give to that.
And he'll need that push because he pretty quickly won the
job at alabama um although jaylen was a great player and i think jaylen's gonna be a pretty
good pro um to a kind of became the dude pretty soon he may not be the dude in the locker room
right away and that's gonna be good for him i think that'll be a really healthy experience for
ryan fitzpatrick has been there done that with every organization too. So every tip, hey, at this place
this happened, that'd be awesome. And by
the way, Fitzpatrick, great golfer.
We saw him at the golf event. We went to a golf
event with him down in Atlanta. He hits the hell
out of the golf ball, let alone his
mind of a Harvard man and his heart of
a plumber. That guy would run his
face into anything if he had to do it. Not a bad guy
to learn from. And a great beard. Not quite
the Ragnar Lofbrook that I
got going on, but a great beard. You're proud of that
thing, huh? Yeah, you are. This has been,
this has really been my project.
You should be proud.
I can grow it on my face and my back.
Nowhere else. So I gotta choose one
to groom, and I'm not gonna groom the back.
I'm sure the back looks
fantastic. You brought up Alex Smith right there.
Before we let you go, and we can't thank you enough for all the time you spent here,
this is a long time that you've taken out of your day here,
especially with the big game this weekend.
I appreciate you doing this.
Alex Smith.
Now, we all watched a video of him coming out of his house and in practice and everything,
and then we've heard the story.
Damn near dead, this guy.
17 surgeries, damn near dead.
He came out and said that if I wasn't to make my return or come back and do that
how can i look my kids in the eye and tell them that they should stick to something this has been
an incredible story for those that know alex smith what are your thoughts on this because i've never
met the guy i've just seen it from afar but what an absolute legend alex smith is for this mental
toughness to get back here i'm not sure he'll ever be back on a football field ever again but
the fact that he ever got cleared is just absolutely insane
because we've all been through rehab, and it's a pain in the ass.
I couldn't even fathom what he's had to go through.
Have you read Angela Duckworth's book on grit?
Just quick.
I've never read a book before in my life.
I should, though.
Get it on audio.
Okay.
Do it while you're on your Stairmaster because I know you're a big Stairmaster guy.
Hey, you see these quads?
You see these quads?
That's all Stairmaster. I'm more of a big Stairmaster guy. Hey, you see these quads? You see these quads? That's all Stairmaster.
I'm more of a Peloton guy.
Oh, you and Hasselbeck on that thing.
But I know you're a big Stairmaster guy.
And by the way, before I answer Alex Smith's question,
really, honestly, good luck this weekend on the wrestling thing.
Thank you.
Thank you.
That's cool.
Thank you.
I couldn't get over the ropes.
I wouldn't know how to get in the ring.
Literally, I would not be able
to get it they'd have to like, forklift me in the arena. If she
ever does a what do they call that when they do another cycle
of the book, reprint or whatever, he should be the
cover. I mean, because you start studying grit. And really,
she's the one
that made it a mainstream conversation
it's the combination of passion
and perseverance for a long term goal
and it drives you in a way
that most people can't understand
it's really the number one
differentiator in high
performers and Alex
when I even with his I was with him
his second and third years in the NFL
you could see it then there was just he's made differently.
There's something inside of him. It's like the Brady. It's like the Manning.
It's like the breeze or just something that was birthed into them that's different than everybody else.
I I tried to be a tough guy in the NFL and I had a lot of tough experiences.
And then I realized really quick, no, this is a real tough guy. Like this is a real, real tough guy. This is a guy that has
something that drives him that maybe I can't put my finger on. And so this really doesn't surprise
me. And, but I think that long-term goal for him isn't necessarily the football. It's what you
touched on. He's adamant about being a great husband. He's adamant about being a great
father. He's adamant about changing the world. Like he has a real global perspective. And I
think his long-term goal that he's passionate about is being an example for others. And I think
he didn't have a choice. He didn't have a choice when he was going through each one of those
surgeries because he would wake up each morning and say, I got to get through this because people
are watching this unfold. And if I quit at any point, that's going to each one of those surgeries because he would wake up each morning and say, I got to get through this because people are watching this unfold.
And if I quit at any point,
that's going to give somebody else the excuse to quit.
So I'm super proud of Alex, as everybody else should be.
But honestly, it doesn't surprise me after spending two years with him.
Man, that's three speeches now you gave.
Ladies and gentlemen, head coach of a high school football team.
What's the name of the high school?
It's called Lipscomb Academy, and it's in Nashville.
All right.
Well, good luck to Lipscomb Academy.
What's the mascot?
We're the Mustangs, baby.
Hey, we're all Mustangs here.
All Mustangs.
Hey, I'll tell you what.
We're going to send you off some swag stuff, okay?
If you'll wear it on the show, we'll send you some cool shorts and hoodies.
You got it.
And they're purple.
Do you want a tank top?
I know you're bad.
We're going to have tank top Tuesdays here,
so do you want me to kind of order some tanks?
Please, tank tops, sleeveless hoodies, anything.
Oh, I got sleeveless hoodies with the Mustang.
I'm going muscle shirts now.
I hired Grant Williams.
Remember Grant played for the Patriots, Seahawks, Rams, right tackle?
I know the name, yeah.
Played nine years.
He's my offensive line coach.
He is a muscle shirt
no shoes coach every day at practice Pat McAfee muscle shirt big old nasty 45 year old sagging
guns size 15 feet no shoes all nasty toes and grass stains and all that stuff that's how we
roll around here so we'll get you some swag if you'll wear it we'll send it off i can't wait i can't wait to watch the lipscomb academy mustangs take
over nashville and tennessee football ladies and gentlemen their head coach super bowl champion
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The turnaround from being a triple option to a pro style offense in the acc bringing in all of
atlanta the man that was tasked with that the head coach of the georgia tech football squad
ladies and gentlemen jeff callen what's up guys thanks for having me on hey i tried to say i
tried to do it for the brand baby i like the sleeveless. You look amazing.
Right now, incredibly crazy times.
You've been a coach for a long time.
Obviously, we're in the middle of a very different world right now.
The conversation about college football is obviously a lot of question marks.
How have you been keeping all that distraction out of your locker room?
How have you been keeping that out of your mission?
What has it been like talking to your team
with the time that we're in right now?
Yeah, well, I don't think you keep it out of it.
I think we talk about it every single day
over and over and over,
different ways, different layers,
different messaging, different groups,
team meetings, Zoom meetings, position meetings,
our cohorts that we are divided up into,
the coaches that run that,
keeping that conversation alive
and our guys have done a great job with our coaching staff has done an amazing job with it
and just keeping that going keeping the narrative understanding uh the situation that we're in the
protocols that our medical professionals and our health uh staff has put together for us and the
guys have done a great job with it okay whenever i talk to your players they
love the environment that you built down there absolutely loved it i i mean every single player
to a man was like hey whenever coach got here this entire building changed music blasting throughout
the entire place i mean it's just like they feel like they come in there and have a good time
i assume some of that has to change now right because there's groups that come in have you
have you been able to keep up with your culture that you're trying to build while having
to maintain with all these medical guidelines? Well, I think the biggest part of the culture
is the love, trust, and the relationships. That piece is never going to change. Those
have even gotten stronger even when we were away from each other. The relationship piece,
the communication piece, that's even gotten stronger.
Now, a typical Georgia Tech practice is completely different now.
We're usually two spots, and there's 60 guys going at once,
and there's mayhem and chaos and music and all kinds of insanity.
We're not doing that now.
We've got safety loops painted all over the sidelines.
There's like 220 safety loops painted six feet apart. And if they're not in a safety loop,
that's when the chaos ensues because we got to keep these guys apart while we're doing the
practices, while we're doing our work. The music, because we're having to train them how a game is
going to work. Typically, you just play music all the time
because in between the plays there's going to be crowd noise.
Now we're doing it exactly how we'll do it during games
where when the play ends, we crank the music up.
Then right when the quarterback gets his hands ready,
we kill the music and it's dead silence until the play's over.
So we're training our guys how a game day environment's going to be
in this day and time.
Yeah, because you've got to keep them hyped because music does a big –
music not only helps people deal with sound and things like that,
it's also a little boost of energy whenever some heater comes on,
a throwback heater comes on.
It's like a lift to the entire team.
But it's going to probably be pretty empty stadiums that you're playing in,
so it's like kind of a fine balance there. Let's talk about what you're hearing about the season though coach
shall we because we we are all hearing the conversations that are happening everywhere
coaches in the big 10 and the pack 12 are obviously up in arms because they weren't able to
talk or say anything but their medical experts are making decisions down there in the acc have you
guys just have you just been focusing on football and you let the athletic director and
everybody else figure it out?
Or have you been a part of those conversations as well?
Well, the conversations are had,
we've met as an SEC head coaches group every single week since the,
since the start of the pandemic and the quarantining.
So there's constant communication.
Our athletic director, Todd Stansberry does a great job.
The communication piece.
I literally talked to him right after I got off the practice field today,
walk him back over here so that there is constant communication.
And just the big thing with us.
And one of the core philosophies in our program is control what we can
control. So every day I come in,
what's the situation that we're allowed to function in?
What are the best
health and safety practices?
What are the protocols?
What can we improve on?
That is the daily focus.
If they're allowing us to progress,
then we're going to progress safely,
healthy,
and make sure our guys
are following the proper protocol
so we do this thing the right way.
And then back to music, Pat,
real quick.
So we have Techno Tuesdays oh that's a techno tuesdays and then we have atl wednesdays okay it's every single
artist has to be from the atl from the 404 and we keep that rolling on wednesdays thursdays i won't
get into that it's really good music and then then Fridays, we'll play a little soul, some blues.
That's our Friday playlist.
And then game day, put the ball down, and it is on.
Hey, you guys got White Boy Thursday.
That's awesome.
That's what I just heard.
Okay, no biggie.
You don't have to say it.
I'll say it.
The team down there with you guys, you're a young team.
You were a young team last year because you were transitioning out of the triple option you're into the pro style which by the way
not an easy thing to do in the in college football because you have to change every position you had
i think your biggest offensive lineman was like 260 or something because in triple option they
got to move d lineman were tiny you're basically tasked with overhauling that entire thing
to become a more explosive, exciting offense and recruit everything.
And you're going to rely on a lot of patience from the athletic director
to be like, hey, once I get my guys in there,
how do you feel about your young group?
How do you feel about the squad that you have?
And does it feel like, hey, Georgia Tech,
we're getting to a place where you're pretty excited about it?
Yeah, I'm excited.
Every day I come to work with these guys, the culture is really, really good.
I think there's some stat that we've got the most returning production
in the country, and that goes back to we had to play a lot of young guys
last year.
They did a really good job.
The leadership piece, the culture piece, the foundation piece is really good.
We signed one of the top two recruiting classes in Georgia Tech football
history. The defensive line
that we signed goes 6-6-6-6-6-5
6-4-1-1.
Our offensive line that we signed goes 6-7-6-6-6-6-5
6-4.
We've gained on average
18 pounds per man
across the offensive line.
We've gained 17 pounds per man across the offensive line. We've gained 17 pounds per man across the defensive line.
Those kind of things are huge in the development, but the attitude,
the mindset, the work ethic, even though we have a ton of fun
and you've been around us, work really, really, really hard.
And they give great effort.
We're a culture built on effort.
And the guys understand when we get out on that field,
we're going 1,000 miles an hour. We're going a thousand miles an hour we're going to do it safely we're going to follow protocols
once we're done we're done we're going to recover we're going to regen and then we're going to
handle ourselves the right way in the community at one of the top four academic schools in the
country i love that you have a group that works hard and play hard right and last year i got a
chance to see the team
put on i mean it was a great game and maybe i should call every game that you guys have down
there but what i would but i learned i learned that all of atlanta's buying in on georgia tech
and atlanta is one of obviously the most influential cities in the country for everything
anytime atlanta gets involved everybody knows like hey big voices are being talked about here atlanta's buying into georgia tech now everybody
knows it's normally a bulldog state but you got waffle house down there you got coke down there
yep there's a cup waffle coffee got it you got turner down there you got a lot of companies that
are based down there in this name image likeness thing that's coming to fruition atlanta is a obviously already popular city plus you have a lot of companies that want atlanta's
georgia tech to do well and i've been talking about this for a couple months after talking to
you i was like hey what they got going on in georgia tech in the setup in georgia tech with
his name image likeness and the offense that they're doing in the recruiting ability and
knowledge of jeff collins has georgia tech's going to be a monster in a few years.
And that is basically what you told it.
Can you break that down a little bit on why I,
people have called me an idiot when I said,
I'm like,
no,
I believe it.
1000%.
I really do.
And so do I,
I've had a dream.
I've had a vision of what this place can be,
what this place is supposed to be.
Pat,
you've sat in my office right here.
When you literally look right outside the office,
that was a nice little flex right there, Pat.
I don't know if you caught that.
Yeah, good flex.
Right outside the office, the world headquarters of Coca-Cola
is literally right there.
And then you've got AT&T, you've got Georgia Pacific,
you've got Southern Company, you've got Accenture,
you've got all of these companies.
Chick-fil-A is right here in our backyard.
The internship piece is huge for our guys.
The amount of guys that do internships in the offseason, the amount of guys that did internships during a global pandemic where all of us were quarantined.
They were still able to do their internships. Those kind of things add real value to what we're able to sell.
add real value to what we're able to sell and the guys that we're able to attract.
The education piece, the academic piece
is unparalleled in major college football.
And then you also embody the culture
that is Atlanta, that is our locker room.
I mean, there are more movies filmed
in the state of Georgia than in Hollywood last year.
So the entertainment piece, the music piece,
all of those things intertwine at a junction that's right here
in downtown Atlanta.
We embrace it.
We take pride in it.
And we coach our guys.
We love our guys.
And we're going to maximize every single thing that they can do
for their exposure, for their brand, for their life after football.
All of those things are rolled up into one,
and that's the reason why Georgia Tech is going to be back
to the top of college football where we belong.
You're a Georgia boy, aren't you?
I am.
I'm born eight miles east of here.
So this is a big – you can feel the passion
because I assume whenever you're coaching at other places,
you're looking at Georgia Tech, which is your hometown, basically,
and you're like, that school should be.
That school should be.
Then you get the gig, and now you're getting a chance to experience it.
That has to be pretty cool.
I mean, that's a pretty cool thing to happen.
Yeah, 100%.
I still remember being a young guy.
They used to play a Georgia Tech versus a school that's 72 miles outside of Atlanta
that we play.
That's our in-state rival.
That game used to be played right here on Thanksgiving Day, the JV game,
and I would sit right up in those stands and watch the game.
Then we would go home to my grandma's house, have Thanksgiving dinner.
We'd play the Turkey Bowl, and I'd win it,
a little plaque with a little wisp going on it,
and just dream of what this place can be, what this place should be, what this place will be.
And I take a lot of pride in it.
Hell yeah.
I tell you, I talked, I didn't, I said it.
I said, hey man, this guy has a real passion for the school.
He understands the weapons it has, and he is an incredible recruiter.
I mean, at Temple, have you seen the athletes that come out of Temple here lately?
He was there with Matt Rule, with everybody up there.
Diggs, what do you got?
Coach, you were just talking about that school that's also in Georgia.
And I was looking at your schedule,
and I believe every ACC team is playing their conference schedule
and then one non-conference.
And I saw yours is UCF.
So how did you guys decide, or how was it decided,
that UCF was going to be your non-conference game
versus a school like the other school in Georgia?
And how did that go? Well, I think that was a decision made outside of our conference,
so we didn't have any control over that. The 10 plus one, I believe, was set so that those games
could be played. For whatever reason, they were deemed they weren't going to play those,
so then we look at our schedule, and competition is king in our program.
We want to compete.
And UCF has had a great run.
I've coached there in the past with Coach O'Leary,
who just got inducted into the Georgia Tech Hall of Fame.
But UCF, really good team, have done really well. We want to make sure we're playing the best teams that we can possibly play.
And so our athletic director, our administration,
was able to keep that game on our schedule.
Great players, great coaches.
And then along with the other 10 games that we'll play in the ACC,
we're really excited about it.
Our guys are fired up to compete.
And we just got to continue to follow the protocols,
take it phase by phase, step by step, do it the right way to give us a chance.
How the hell is that going to happen?
Coach, let's have a real-life conversation about college kids
because the pictures have hit the internet from Tuscaloosa, from North Georgia.
You're hearing in Notre Dame 149 positive cases.
They're locking kids back into their houses, doing online tuition.
I believe North Carolina is doing the same. Mack Brown actually came out and said well if everybody's gonna be inside that's
actually good for us because we can keep the bubble thing how are you like setting forth like
hey we need to be very accountable here we need to be very loyal to each other because it's not
just the players by the way it's gas it's athletic trainers it's equipment managers that it's an
entire building buying in how how is that going to happen because a lot of people are like college football can't happen but if you look at campuses in general it doesn't look
like that's going to be a positive experience how does the football team do it how is it going to
work and the guys have done a great job so far just controlling we can control using the messaging
using lessons learned from other places to make sure our guys understand what we have to do when
we get out into the classroom setting,
whether it be in setting, a hybrid or in virtual world.
When we're out on campus, how we have to maintain our bubble, our personal bubble,
protect our team's bubble, and then also the marketing piece,
making sure that we're out there on social media, talking about wearing a mask,
talk about maintaining social distance.
If you came out to the plaza, I don't know if you remember, Pat,
there's a huge jumbotron outside of our stadium,
and it faces down the Yellow Jacket alley where some of the fraternities
and sororities are.
We had them put up a, however big that thing is,
billboard of me wearing a mask saying,
wear your mask at Coach Collins.
If you drive down 7585, there's a huge Georgia Tech digital billboard.
Again, it's my face up there covered up.
And maybe the mask has been good for me because I get to cover this thing up.
It's out there.
So the messaging, so whenever the young people, the students that are on campus,
at least they're seeing the message as well.
Wear masks. Our president, Dr. Cabrera, has set up places where they can get PPEs all over campus.
They can get testing all over campus. So those steps are being implemented.
And it's going to take all of us to be able to have success with this. It's going to take a collective, and hopefully we can use our influence
for the greater good for our campus, for our community, and even for the city.
It'll be awesome if it happens, man.
I cannot wait to watch.
I am happy that you joined us.
I loved talking to you the day before the game.
I've enjoyed talking to you today.
You're electric.
Can't wait to see what you do with Georgia Tech.
And can't wait to see how these guidelines,
protocols are implemented throughout this entire semester
so we can have football season.
It's going to be tough,
but I'm excited to see you guys pull it off.
I appreciate you, Coach.
Thanks, guys.
When the sun's out, the guns are out.
Let's go.
Hell yeah.
Have it, Coach.
Good luck down there.
Ladies and gentlemen, head coach of Georgia Tech,
Jeff Collins. Yeah. gentlemen, head coach of Georgia Tech, Jeff Collins.
Yeah, Jeff.
He seems very positive that football is going to happen. That guy is a guy that's in conversation every single day, he said, with the ACC.
Now, granted, whatever happens on campus is definitely going to dictate what happens in the football world.
But he's, I told you, by the way, the passion that he had for Atlanta was so real when he was talking to us.
Joining us now is a man who's in the Edmonton bubble for the NHL.
We should let the beat drop, I guess.
This is for Pierre right here.
Pierre Maguire.
What's up, Pierre? Yeah pat could you hear that beat drop right there that
sounds like that's something right out of your playlist am i accurate thinking that oh yeah
especially when i'm at the rink absolutely 100 hey beard looks good i haven't got a chance to
see a lot of western conference playoff games how have you been performing you feel like you've been
on top of your game feel like the words are coming out good i hope so i
think so um i think i've done 30 games in whatever the amount of days we've been here so uh last
friday i did three this saturday i did two sunday i did three and yesterday i did two and i have two
more today so i've been pretty busy okay so let's talk about that has it been a bit tiring in this bubble and i mean obviously
for production and television it's a little bit different than the players but what has life been
like in there everybody's just kind of busy doing their work going home is that kind of the narrative
for everybody in there a great question and the answer is yes i think the professionalism of the
players and the coaches and the trainers have been phenomenal. We've got a small production crew out here right now, Pat,
so everybody's kind of just hunkering down together.
But it's pretty amazing when you think about it.
There's only three hotels in the Edmonton pod.
They're all connected through a chain-linked fence walkway
where nobody can get in or nobody can get out
unless they're part of the NHL pod system or bubble.
And you get to know everybody pretty quick.
The other day I was just walking in the building.
I see Max Pacioretty of the Vegas Golden Knights,
Paul Stassi of the Vegas Golden Knights.
Right after that, I see Marc-Andre Fleury.
And everybody's kind of just become a small family, believe it or not,
just discussing different things, discussing the hockey,
discussing their families, discussing friends.
So it's been kind of neat that way. But I would tell tell you i think fatigue will sit in as we go along here i had a chance to
talk to a coaching staff yesterday and their biggest concern is the everyday uh testing and
the amount of fatigue that can sit in just from being in the same place for such a long period
of time yeah and let alone the games a lot of games gone to overtime there's been a lot of free hot free hockey free hockey there's been a lot of free hockey out there so the testing
is it every single day every morning is there a time that people have to go in because i assume
the time the amount of hours it takes to return a result is a little bit longer than expected
you can't leave your hotel until you have a temperature test, excuse me.
So they have these computerized situations that are set up in the lobby of all
three hotels and also in the lobby of the rink.
So, and you can only, it only lasts for 12 hours.
So you got to get your temperature checked every 12 hours before you leave
your building, whether it's the rink, whether it's your hotel,
you have to be checked. So that's the first part of the process.
The second part is once you get to the rink the league set this up unbelievably well uh they do
it in alphabetical order and so i'm mcguire so i go l through p that's the line i go through
and they have a piece of paper there set up with your name on it you pick one of the eight lanes
that's available you go in and there's a nurse practitioner there that tests you for COVID.
One day it's a nasal swab.
One day it's a throat swab.
And then you have to go through security at the arena,
and then you're allowed into the arena.
Is this weird?
You mentioned, by the way,
I don't want to say that you ever look anything less than fantastic
because you do look fantastic at all times,
but you do look as if this has been
quite a process what has been the reaction what was the expectation you think by the players and
even you going into the bubble versus reality in the bubble uh i knew it was going to be a process
i think everybody else did too but i think you you as you prepare for it it's like anything else
there's always going to be uh hiccups there's always going to be changes that you have to go through and i think the biggest thing is just every day
of going through it i think not for me because i i'm not playing i'm not getting beat up every day
but i think the fatigue factor does sit in that's it in for the players i really do and
um you know the hardest thing for me is just to prepare for two or three games a day so that's
more cerebral than it is physical um for for those So that's more cerebral than it is physical.
For those guys, it's more physical than it is cerebral.
And then I think it starts to affect your psyche.
You've got loved ones that aren't even close to being here.
And so I think for the players, that's going to be the issue as we go deeper and deeper into this.
Who does that benefit?
Because when I was watching that five-overtime game,
there was a couple guys on the ice who still had juice in the fifth overtime.
You could tell, like, oh, those are the guys who, in football,
no matter what we were doing, they always had energy.
When everybody else was dead tired,
who does it benefit this kind of long, drawn-out situation?
Well, I think the guys are obviously unbelievably well-fit professionally.
I'm talking about their cardiovascular system, their leg strength,
everything else, but also the guys that did a lot of work during the pause.
Some guys didn't work as hard as others just because they didn't have the
facilities available or they weren't able to skate, whereas some of the guys
that went back here.
Is that why the Penguins lost?
Is that why the Penguins lost?
What the hell?
No, the Penguins lost because of exactly what I told you before we went into the pause,
or into the tournament, I should say.
Carey Price and Shea Weber affected the outcome of that series unbelievably,
and the Penguins just weren't deep enough to overcome that.
All right.
Who's going to win the Stanley Cup?
I don't do that, but I will tell you this.
I saw a team yesterday from Colorado that is really good,
and Nathan McKinnon is as good as any player in the National Hockey League right now.
And he's surrounded with an amazing supporting cast that's got a lot of grit
and a lot of intestinal fortitude.
I'd also tell you that the Vegas Golden Knights are really good from out west.
They're outstandingly good.
They're amazingly well coached.
And in the east, I think anybody could win.
I mean, Tampa's good.
Boston's good.
Even though Washington's down 3-0, they could push back to one of the biggest surprises are the new york islanders
and what they're doing it's been an amazing tournament so far pat it really has been nhl
is looking at this as a massive success i'd assume because there's been what zero i've heard
zero covid uh any covid diagnosis is out of the hubs the games have been on television the games
have been good the games have been competitive television. The games have been good.
The games have been competitive. It feels like this is a massive smashing success for the
NHL. Is that how it is from the inside? Absolutely. I told you, I think two or three
weeks ago that I thought this was a shining moment for the National Hockey League and
Commissioner Bedman and Deputy Commissioner Daly and also for the National Hockey League
Players Association. I really believe that.
But the thing I'm most proud of is the way the players have handled this, Pat.
They've been amazingly professional and no complaining at all, Pat.
They're just out here busting their tails every single day.
The caliber of the play has been phenomenal and the competitive nature of these games.
You know, if you don't want to be here, you'll find out because you won't be here long because you just won't be good enough or intense enough to compete. But all these teams are just competing
at another level, which I never expected that to be after four and a half months away from the
rink. I'm so proud of the players and the way they've carried themselves. So you would say
that the standard of the play has been definitely upheld, which a lot of people were worried about.
A lot of people were like, well, there'll be no fans to get them motivated. They'll be in an interesting setting.
There'll be a lot of ground.
You think the standard for people that haven't watched the NHL playoffs,
you would say that the standard of play, the rate of play,
is one that the NHL is very, very thrilled with?
Oh, absolutely.
I would say the level of play has been just as good as any level of play
we've had in a Stanley Cup playoff run before.
And especially when you consider you're in the middle of the summer,
a lot of people are concerned about the ice quality.
Well, I can tell you, I can't speak for Toronto because I'm not there,
but I can tell you the ice quality in Edmonton is as good or better
than any ice quality we have at any other time of the season
in the National Hockey League.
So that's something they should be really proud of as well,
and that allows the players to play at a higher level.
But you watch some of the skill plays of a Jonathan Taser or Patrick Kane or, you know,
you watch Jonathan Marcheseau of Vegas or you watch Riley Smith of Vegas
or before he got eliminated, Connor McDavid of Edmonton
or Nathan McKinnon or Mikko Rantanen.
You watch some of these players play and you're like,
whoa, these guys are really good.
I heard Edmonton's a dump.
Happy to hear that that's not the case.
You should have been a punter out here for the Edmonton's a dump. Happy to hear that that's not the case. You should have been a punt right here for the Edmonton football team.
They always won a lot of great cups.
Well, I'll tell you what.
Sadly, unfortunately, I do believe the CFL is something that I don't know
if it's made it not going to survive the quarantine.
I enjoyed CFL immensely,
but they said they're going to have their biggest year coming back next year.
Let's talk a little bit more about the coverage.
That five overtime game that they had, or you covering three games in one day or anything,
are you just housing Red Bulls back there?
What are you doing?
Is Adderall cracked into the Pierre Maguire?
How are you staying alive?
That's a long time, especially whenever you're going throughout the process
that you're going in every day.
A lot of people talk about the players.
Let's put the players aside for just a moment here.
Let's talk about Pierre Maguire and the production staff here.
That seems like a long-ass day for you.
It is a long day.
You know, I start radio in Ottawa, Ontario, Canada,
which I've been doing for 22 years now.
I start that show at 6 a.m. here.
So usually I leave the hotel around 10, 30, or 11 in the morning,
mountain time, and I get back around midnight,
and then I'm up around 5, 30 in the day.
I'll get about another hour's sleep.
I'll go to the gym.
You know what's the cool part about the pod is the referees are all staying
in our hotel.
You should see how fit these guys are.
So you get a chance to go in the gym and work out with them,
which is a lot of fun.
And then I head right to the rink and spend the rest of the day at the rink.
But Wayne Gretzky owns a restaurant here in the arena,
and it's open for all of us in the pod.
And the food's been great.
So that's where we go between games and just stock up on food
and then just keep working.
Well, Pierre, I'll tell you what.
That would never get talked about on the broadcast or on Twitter
whenever people are tweeting about Pierre Maguire.
I want to let you know, the fact that you're running on like three,
four hours of sleep every single day calling two, three games,
that is why, Pierre Maguire, you are a living legend in this show's book.
I want to let you know that, Pierre.
You keep powering through, brother.
We appreciate the hell out of you.
Thanks a lot, Pat.
I appreciate being on with you.
Thanks so much for your passion for our sport because it really does matter.
It really does.
Thank you very much.
Well, the Penguins lost.
I lost my passion pretty quickly.
But I do enjoy watching nightly.
I don't have a horse in the race anymore, Pierre.
I told you, best player to ever play hockey, Sidney Crosby,
who's going to guide us through this COVID Cup,
and a complete opposite happens.
So now I have to realign and refocus my entire hockey life.
Well, I don't know.
There were a lot of injuries, too, I think, that your team was dealing with.
I don't think this is all on Sidney.
I think you've got to give some credit to the other team,
and Cary Price was phenomenal.
So there you go.
They said the goalie stood on his head.
We'd be in problems.
Nick, host of That's Hockey Talk, has a question for you, Pierre.
Pierre, goaltending standing on their head,
that's been kind of a theme of the playoffs so far,
Jonas Corpusalo and Columbus.
And then you look at what Jake Allen was able to do for St. Louis
and then Halak coming in to back up Tuka Rasku,
who opts out in Boston.
Both of those teams go on to win two straight games.
Can you talk about where is that switch?
How do they find to flip that switch when the backup comes in
and you're down against the ropes and you come back
and win two straight games with backup goalies?
I think that's a great question.
I think part of that is because of how hard these guys practice,
the backup goalies, number one.
Number two, the players rally around them,
so they get a little bit bigger, they get a little bit faster,
and they get a little bit more fearless when it comes to blocking shots
because they want to help the guy do well.
Usually those backup goalies are pretty popular guys because they stay out later in practice and help the players you know
in terms of the shooting and stuff like that so there's a team bond there but I think the biggest
thing is you talk about Halak he's got amazing experience go back to 2010 and look what he did
with the Montreal Canadiens getting to the Stanley Cup uh Eastern Conference final uh which was
amazing they should they had no right even being there, but he got them there.
Alex got a lot of experience, so he's one example.
But the performance I saw the other day from Corey Crawford
of the Chicago Blackhawks, which is forcing a game five tonight
against Vegas was unbelievable.
That was as well as I've seen Corey play since Chicago
won the Stanley Cup in 2015.
He was off the charts good against Vegas in Game 4.
We just missed the hard out for the radio there,
so we got nothing but time now.
That's not your fault, by the way.
You answered that incredibly.
Probably more our fault, which, by the way,
we're in a quarantine as well, by the way.
It looks very different than yours.
We are in like a 20,000-square-foot mansion down here in Orlando.
But we want to let you know you're the man.
Stay positive through this thing.
Try to somehow maintain your energy
because you are a gift to hockey, my friend,
and a gift to the show.
Thanks a lot, Pat.
I appreciate it.
Take care and stay safe down there.
Lots of sunscreen for you.
Well, you know, I'm very pale, as are you.
We're both, you know, our names start with M-C.
I mean, we are glow.
I have a good base going, though, even though it might not look like it.
I have a pretty good base, so I think I can go out there and rotisserie myself.
Excellent.
Well done.
Talk to you soon.
What's a word we can get you to say in the middle of a game out there?
When you're bored, like maybe it'll give you a little something like to spice up the energy.
You tell me.
You tell me, and I'll try to put it in.
I would like to go next door neighbor clap bomb. I'd like you to sneak that in there. That would like to go next door neighbor clap bomb.
I'd like you to sneak that in there.
That's my shot.
Next door neighbor clap bomb.
That's my shot.
I don't know if I can do that, but I might get clap bomb.
Okay.
All right.
When Pierre gets clap bomb in there,
if somebody could please clip that and send that to us,
we'd be very grateful.
Ladies and gentlemen, living legend, Pierre Maguire.
Well, that sounds like a schedule that i would not be able to fucking keep that is that that sounds that's like our uh our fall there yeah but we
weren't being hassled with things being shoved in our face i couldn't even fathom being tired
miserable going from one thing to another then having to sit there like all right we're gonna
shove this down your throat now it's like like, all right, here we go.
Go ahead and do it, I guess.
Let's go ahead and enjoy this life.
That it sounds.
Now, the players, obviously, same thing,
because they're fucking skating, sleeping, ice and skating,
sleeping ice and doing that.
That's terrible.
But when I watch that five overtime game,
I was thinking, how are these fucking broadcasters have any energy?
Seriously.
I have no idea how you.
Midnight every day.
He's going.
Pierre Maguire's a legend.
He gets clap on, man.
I would like some motherfuckers to clip that for us.
That would be better.
Yeah.
By the way, him saying clap-bomb,
I think other people will clip as well.
Just Pierre Maguire loosening and letting a clap-bomb fly.
All right.
I'm going to run to the bathroom.
I guess we had a guy clean the pool back here
in the middle of the show a little bit,
or I didn't see it,
but the whole world saw it, I guess.
I got a lot of tweets saying,
Hey, there's a guy in the back there.
There's a guy back there back there's a guy back here he's cleaning the pool
three days away from me stepping into a wwe ring for the first time when i attempt to boot
adam cole's face off of his head into the moon in a 10-second match a man who knows how i feel he was once an outsider to the wwe
then he became a dominant force in the wwe hall of famer world strongest man host of busted open
radio on serious xm ladies and gentlemen sexual chocolate mark henry yeah come on
what's going on man you? You know what, man?
I'm just checking you out.
I'm looking at this.
I forgot that you jumped off into that little dirty pond.
It was a river.
It was a river.
And there was not even a single thought of potentially getting impaled by a log down there.
Not even a thought, Mark.
Can you not hear me?
Can you hear me? can you hear me can you hear me oh jamming oh did we lose Mark Henry no did we lose Mark Henry hey by the way incredible dance moves right yeah you see he not just hit
that I mean he hit that thing can you hear me Mark I can hear you great i'm just looking at chairs and i don't know what i'm looking at
no no is this a theater no we're looking we're currently in the middle of a oh you're in the
he's in the theater right now he's on the computer okay so i am in another room you look fantastic
you look fantastic to me right now you uh their dance moves were fantastic we're in a drug lord's
house basically down here in orlando and we're currently running it out for fight week
because, you know, got to get ready for this Saturday.
Had to get locked in.
We're going full keto, no carbs in here,
trying to get attractive as if I'm Mark Henry doing the show.
There he is.
Can you see me?
I got you.
Oh, man.
Yeah.
It would be so awkward if I was just talking to an empty theater head.
Billy Buttcheeks and Evan Fox in there.
This Saturday, I'm stepping into a ring for the first time, Mark, okay?
And I'm an outsider.
Wrestling fans hate me.
What would be your tip to me for my mindset going into this weekend?
Well, you got to own who you are.
Like, you can't rely on what the fans always think because the fans they're it's all
based off emotion and you've already uh put them on an emotional roller coaster uh you've
disrespected their favorite guy so it is what it is you can't you can't worry about them you got
to do you whenever you got into wrestling you're the
world's strongest man okay documented in watching your the thing that should be talked about more is
the documentaries that are on wwe network watching your backstory though was so cool it was so awesome
watching you lift every weight on earth and then you get into wrestling and then there's some
moments of you in the locker room and then obviously you go on to take over whenever you got into wrestling did you have that feeling of this is where i was
supposed to be all along or did you feel as if you know like maybe world's strongest man is what i
was supposed to be forever uh i was a fan i was a super fan so that was that was kind of my whole
motivation for being there but unfortunately during that time, pro wrestling wasn't as given and sharing as it is now.
Everybody was resentful of me being there.
Everybody felt disrespected.
People felt like, you don't belong here.
like you don't belong here you know like I mean I have people blatantly tell me it ain't no way you should get the money you get I've been doing this for 20
years and I've never even scratched the signing bonus and I was mad that they
even posted how much I got me how much I paid how much I got paid yeah it's like I didn't tell
them I didn't tell them you know it's like that was that was that was the bad time man like uh
that first three years suck because just like you and your reaction um you're a sharp guy as well as a physically imposing guy.
You said a punter?
A punter?
Oh, okay.
Well, I mean, you're just a little guy, you know,
and you went into your thing.
It was different for me because I grew up fighting.
I did karate.
I boxed. I grew up in a neighborhood where if you didn't
fend for yourself, you got your ass killed or kicked or killed. So for me, I was just
like, well, let's go outside. If you want it that bad, you want my money, come beat
me and I'll give it to you.
Oh, that's awesome. So I was a bit of an asshole.
Well, and but I was a good
guy on TV. Red,
white and blue. America's guy.
But in the locker room, I was
like, man, I hate your guts, man. Like,
you look at me funny. I'm looking at you funny.
What do you want to do? And
it was not
the best course of action because I was giving my body in the ring to people that I didn't think cared about my body.
Okay.
So you and Adam Cole are going to tie it off.
And there is a lack of respect there i think on both sides you know i can't completely
say my man pat which you know we were right away fast friends bang but as much as i see
negatives on his side which i think sensitivity to his size is an issue but also you could have been
the bigger man well and you said no I'm Pat McAfee you're not gonna just talk to
me any kind of way and I respect that you know don't let nobody push your
buttons but I'm just saying from a business standpoint um i just saw you being the
bigger man and saying look adam you can say whatever you want i don't agree but i could have
i could have definitely done that in the neighborhood you're from you know you could
have got your ass kicked or killed in my neighborhood if i would have just let that
guy do that to me i mean i'm gonna get bitched around uh by everybody you
know and i got a lot of text messages by the way that were mad at me friends former teammates
former coaches they were mad at me for not uh snapping him in half in the in the studio so
they actually by the way thought i was rather professional throughout the entire thing which
after watching it back i was not okay i i am that, but I do not take back anything I say.
That's why I'm excited for Saturday in the way this thing has gone.
Let's talk about the wrestling road.
You're a part of a show, Busted Open,
that is one of the main mouthpieces of an entire business right now.
Did you know you were going to get into this?
Is this just something that kind of fell into place?
I love that show.
I listen to it later because we're on at the same time.
I'm a big fan of you, Bully, LaGreca, the whole squad over there.
Tommy, I'm a big fan of everybody over there.
Did you know you were going to be good at that
whenever you were retiring from wrestling?
You know what?
I was a communications major, and I always wanted to do radio.
I thought that in college I was going to be DJ Mark Henry
doing the quiet storm.
But when I met Dave LaGreca in 2003, I had already started in my mind saying, you know, once I get done, I want to do radio. And he was doing, you know, like
two hour shows at midnight
talking wrestling. And I thought that that was the greatest thing ever.
And I was like, I want to do that. And it
was at the WrestleMania in Houston. I can't tell you what year it was. I met him in the
lobby and he said, Mark, like when I have conversation with you about wrestling I learn stuff
he was like you you really should pursue it and a lot of me being in radio and being in the media
probably should be owed to Dave LaGreca giving me a shot he's awesome I'm a big fan of his what
has been the reaction from your show about me and Cole?
You guys think I'm going to win, obviously?
Yeah.
You know what?
I think that you need to watch your back because just like you said,
I'm your smart guy.
You chalk it up to being smart.
It's smart for you to have guys that help you achieve your ultimate goal and roger strong and like these
guys can hurt you so like you while you're focusing on him uh i would be like hey goose check your six you never know
you never know so
any advice if I was going to give you
advice I'd be like
don't stand back and wait on him
you're bigger than him you're stronger than him
overpower and check your
six okay
that's my advice and that's what I'm doing I'm trying to end this thing
quick by the way I think everybody knows that I've been very
very open that I am trying to end this thing quick I by the way. I think everybody knows that I've been very, very open,
that I am trying to end this thing quick.
I'm trying to get this over with as quick as possible because maybe, maybe,
I mean, there's a chance that my cardio might come into question.
My cardio might come into question.
You said maybe?
Maybe.
Maybe, Mark.
Maybe.
I mean, I enjoy life.
Everybody knows that.
But maybe the cardio could come into question if this goes along.
So I believe Mike Tyson, okay, his plan was for that thing to last one round that is it that is what i'm thinking
i want this thing to be over with quick this is the three dominant cocktail of you winning okay
no cocktails okay last time i had a few of those, you carried me home.
That was fantastic.
What's the next one?
The second thing, attack.
Don't wait.
Okay.
And the third thing, the most important thing, check your six.
I think that you can give him all he can handle because, you know,
like you say, size plays dividends.
If you can get him away from a vertical base and you can think about, let me get up faster than him so I can kick him while he's down.
That puts you in the winning, in the winning graces.
You've got to find a way to get him down while you're standing so you can do your thing.
Yeah, we'll do that quick.
We'll definitely make that happen quick.
You got a chance to carry me home in New York City
just one year ago from SummerSlam last year.
And World Strongest Man carried me home.
No big deal.
I mean, that is something that I shouldn't be proud of,
but definitely something I'm like,
yo, World Strongest Man.
You wasn't heavy.
Bucket list.
What a day.
You wasn't heavy.
You my brother
well that's what i'm about to say who is somebody in a match or in real life that you lifted has
anybody ever given you a struggle at all and what's the most amount of weight you've ever
lifted at one time i squatted a thousand six i did lift at 9 24 And the 924 is the more impressive thing because when you see all of these
strong men today, they use straps.
You see them, they're putting the straps on,
they're wrapping it around the bar, they're tucking it in,
and they're pulling, they got other people helping them,
get them as tight as they can, and they do the lift no disrespect i'm just saying i didn't use straps no strap no strap and to be able to do a thousand pound squat
or a thousand pound deadlift is great but i a 1,000-pound deadlift with no straps.
Have you ever done it with straps, or did you just refuse?
You're like, I ain't that type of guy.
Man, anybody that watched my powerlifting career,
the whole term raw, when you hear raw powerlifting,
that term was devised because of me,
because I didn't use equipment.
Hey, man, it's true. mark it's man sir i remember you know telling pat and the boys a couple weeks back there was a
there was a point you'd gotten inducted into the international sports hall of fame
at the arnold classic festival in columbus ohio they do every year and you were part of the first
class i remember walking through that convention hall with you because i was covering your story
for wwe and the amount of respect and listening to people just talk about Mark's accolades, including Arnold himself.
Arnold at one point was talking to Mark about it. He was like, you know, Mark, I remember you
winning the first class of the strongman competition and you were doing this, this, and this.
Like the amount of respect that Mark just receives and the praise in the physical culture world,
I was floored because i mean i knew the
respect he got in the business but to see it in this side of life it was absolutely unheard of
and then i did my research and the numbers are just staggering that documentary is awesome i
mean it is awesome to watch you because you struggled a little bit right at one point then
you had to come back and get it again it's just like you're an animal man by the way incredibly
cool dude which i assume is not normal in that world i assume it's
a lot of meathead super meathead world over there you know what man like some of the most enjoyment
that i've ever had no disrespect to uh to my meathead brothers but uh i've been in conversations
with people where in my mind i'm like don't laugh't laugh. Don't laugh. Just straight face it. And I've almost
peed myself listening to some of the absurd requests as well as stories that I've heard.
And this guy told me about his diet one time. And he said that, you know what, man,
one of the things that I do, you remember Rocky? And I was like, yeah. He said that you know what man one of the things that i do you remember rocky
and i was like yeah he said you remember rocky did the eggs you know meat has more protein in it
i do ground meat and i take ground meat and i grind it again with water and drink it. And I was like, that is not sanitary.
Like you may die from that, sir.
Please don't do that.
I mean, it was like, I would get stuff like that all the time.
I mean, not, what do you do?
What makes you so strong?
And I was like, well, you know what, man?
God gave me an unlimited amount of crazy oh okay
because if i lose or if i miss a lift i can't sleep
dr terry time said that he he thought that in the 15 years that he was around me he saw me miss an attempt 10 times and those 10 times that i missed
i know i didn't sleep for a couple of days until i can get it off my mind what can i do
to make myself better i'm a i'm a i'm a 50 year old man and i've trained three times a week I'm still rocked up my genetics and my will
to not fail is what made me Mark Henry uh if I was a superhero I wouldn't be the Hulk I'd love
to be the Hulk I'm a big fan. But I would be Hal Jordan.
My will is what makes me a superhero.
Okay.
Do you think your will comes from growing up in that neighborhood, obviously,
that you either get your ass kicked or killed, and that's like your opportunity?
Like, hey, I'm going to get out of here.
I'm going to go.
I'm going to work my ass off?
Oh, yeah. I know for a fact that that's what made me.
And the thought of failure.
I saw a lot of failure, not only in my neighborhood and around, but I saw failure in my home.
And I was the kid that learned what not to do by seeing, hey, maybe you shouldn't do that.
Yeah. Yeah. And too many people, they learn by what somebody tells them rather than using their experiences.
And that's why the program that I put together, Mark Henry Strong Kids, is based off experiences.
And I want them to have new experience.
I raise money so that they can have more experiences.
new experience I raise money so that they can have more experiences I've been cussed out at least three times in the last two years by my wife because I just
use my money to do it yeah and she realized it's a good cause and that I'm
doing a noble thing but hey you got two kids of your own like stop using your money and ask these big corporations
for money so uh that's that's kind of where i've gone with it now well experiences are what bring
your maturity and it's really experiences teach you a lot more than anything else i also saw you
were doing some youth sports initiative where you had a stacked card i don't know if that happened
last saturday or this upcoming Saturday or next Saturday.
No, this past Saturday.
This past Saturday.
I saw the flyer for it.
You do.
You feel like a real obligation to give back, I feel like,
and that is something that I think is what makes me such a big Mark Henry fan.
It's like you're a guy who conquered it, been there, done that,
self-admitted as a crazy person,
but you will give back to whoever
whenever however man it's an awesome thing i have seen a lot of people take incredible gifts
to the grave and not share i will not be that guy on my on my tombstone there's a here lies a great man who gave all his shit away before he died
that's a cool tombstone hey that's a cool tombstone and i'm telling you like i feel like
i need to let the world have what i've got because it was given to me it's not my place to keep it it's to keep it moving to push it up push it forward
and you know that's that's like the i feel good when i do it too i don't know if um i don't know
if you've ever had that feeling where everybody's gone and there's nobody there to pat you on the back. And you look in the mirror and you go, yeah, we did that.
And I get a lot of joy out of that.
That's fulfillment, man.
That's like real fulfillment there.
And when I retired from kicking balls,
you know, for the wrestling fans that are watching
and learning about me for the first time,
it was the best in the NFL when I retired.
Okay, Pro Bowl, whatever.
Thank you, thank you thank you
it's a craft okay it's a craft but i retired at top anyone but i was i was starting to fall in
love with that fulfillment feeling that i was getting off the field through the foundation
through making people laugh through that whole thing and that fulfillment feeling is something
you cannot put a price tag on it is real you can't you can't put a price tag on it i've done everything pat
to try to find a joy like i have now and i told you man i i used to do the tour of strip joints
thinking that i'm gonna find my joy in the strip club i used to uh i used to ball a lot i if guys would spend five thousand i'm spending five thousand we're
gonna make it we're gonna do it big i bought three and four thousand dollar liquor tabs and i don't
drink thank you for those by the way so then i said you know what what else makes me feel good
comedy so then i go and i perform at caroline's you know you're supposed to like
start like at mini marks and you know bingo halls ah screw that i'm gonna go straight to
new york city to the biggest comedy club in the country and and killed i try to find my joy where
i want to find it but nothing feels better than when I'm with those kids and they like,
yeah,
all right,
let's go like that.
That feeling.
I just got goosebumps.
Oh,
that's awesome.
That's what gets me.
That's what gets me.
Hey,
I'm happy you found it here.
You got another 50 years,
at least on this earth at the age of 50.
Maybe,
maybe change. Hey, the Henry of 50. Maybe. Maybe.
Hey, the Henry's started checking out around 70, brother.
Hey, the McAfee family tree is not a tall one either, brother.
I mean, that thing goes quick.
It's a lot of women, but all the men, they're like, where is everybody?
I'm going to have you have some joy on Saturday.
I want to let you know that.
There's going to be some real joy on Saturday.
Because the first conversation I had with you,
first conversation I had with you, we talked, good convo.
I don't think you knew who I was, though, at that point.
You go back to your room.
You Googled me, searched me, saw some of my highlights because you're a big football fan.
And the next day, you actually told me, you're like,
hey, this man's supposed to be in our business right here.
This guy is supposed to be in our business.
You've been a guy since the first day i met you who has been a
big fan and like friend of mine like a good friend of mine in the business so i appreciate the hell
out of you also you carried me home when i was pretty intoxicated so i i very much appreciate
you threw up too i was allegedly
allegedly by the way there was a lot in there that night.
I was on a full keto diet, too.
I mean, that thing was, it was a recipe for disaster, but it was free beers.
And I was just chugging beers.
I was just chugging beers at that point.
Pat, you know that there's a, people always say that to be a professional wrestler,
you have to have that genesee choir you
gotta have that that something else that that thing that when people walk in a room and you go
who's that guy who's that girl oh damn who's that girl like you you gotta have something
and when i met you you had that and I wasn't
thinking like, oh this guy's
going to be a wrestler
I'm thinking
this guy's very glib
he's going to be great on the
microphone and
little did I know, you're great on the microphone
Oh, thank you, I appreciate that
but that's kind of been
my M.O.
from the Baron Corbin's of the world, the Daniel Bryan's, the 99 to now that are in the business because I spoke up for them and said, hey, they're supposed to be here.
Like that, if you make him put him in the gym and make him look like a wrestler, he's
going to be good.
You take her and give her a good weave and some makeup.
She's going gonna make it there's a couple of people that needed some makeup but i'm just saying but i know what that
looks like and i'm not batting a thousand but uh the apollo cruz and and the list goes on man like
there's there's people in the business that i can see them and I just know that they're meant for it.
And when I said that, I meant it.
I see what would be really good in our business.
And I think you're going to be good for the business.
I don't want you to think that one win or one loss is going to define you.
Okay.
And when I say that, I want you to go into this match and try to take his head off.
Yes.
Hell yeah.
If you don't, it's not like you're going to be done.
It's not like you're going to get browbeat.
It's not like it's the end of the road.
You take what you learned from that loss,
and you go back and you correct it.
But I don't see you losing.
Me neither.
You are bigger than him.
You have got the three prong game plan
no cocktails
attack watch your six
you good
feel good
and then afterwards
hopefully I'll be there because I'm trying to
finagle my way down there
I'll have a cooler
full of frosty beverages for you.
Oh, that's very nice of you.
I appreciate that.
And I'm going to have about
three or four Cokes in there for me.
Maybe a couple of bottles of water.
You're going to have hydrates.
Yeah, yeah.
Orlando, too.
It's hot.
But that is what you do.
Right now, nothing.
No women.
Women, weak in legs.
Oh, I'm married.
I'm married.
My lady is here with me.
Oh, so you're not having sex anyway.
That's hysterical.
Oh, my God.
But I believe in you.
I think you can get it done.
But I just don't agree about some of the how we got there.
Okay.
Well.
And that's,
that's, you know, some of that can be private conversation. Um,
or we can talk about it, but I just, um,
I look at you as being the bigger man and you know,
like there's a lot of times where I had to swallow my pride and swallow my
tongue because I couldn't say what I was feeling.
If I did it, the best advice I ever got was from Boyd Hart. He said, Mark, you're entertaining. When you get angry, it's the most
scary and the most exciting shit I ever saw in my life. He said, but if you really feel that way,
don't say it where everybody can hear you.
Pull that person aside when the cameras are off and nobody's around and say, hey, man, I ain't really feeling how you talk to me.
The next time there will be no warning.
This is the warning.
There will be no warning.
They will be waking your ass up with smelling salts.
Are we clear?
And when you say, are we clear, your other hand needs to be coming up and this one needs to be coming up first.
Because never let your guard down because some people quit.
Amen. So that's why I'm saying I want you to – my light went out because I turned my computer off.
It's probably because the light, by the way, thought you were talking to it, by the way.
The light was right here.
We are clear.
I'm going to get the hell out of here.
Let me power down.
I don't want to get hurt.
That's kind of what I was saying.
It's not that
i'm saying that you were wrong because i think wholeheartedly you were right to defend yourself
if somebody talks shit to me i'm i'm pretty slick with the tongue i'm gonna talk back i'm gonna talk
back to you i have to do it and if talking don't fix it then there's always the door and it's
usually spins to the right and you can pull on it and go outside, and I'll be right behind you.
So let's go.
Hey, Mark, I can't thank you enough.
I know the boys were excited that you were coming on the chat.
I will see you very, very soon.
This is an awesome time to be alive.
I'm three days away from a fight,
and hopefully I can channel a little Mark Henry
from last summer slam
carrying me home and carry a dub
out of that ring on Saturday night
in the first two minutes because we do
know we do know
that the vitamins could have an effect
on the cardio and we do not want to find
out ladies and gentlemen hall of famer
hall of painter hosted a busted
open legendary human, Mark Henry.
Oh, my God.
I want to be your Ed McMahon.
Oh, you're 100%?
Come on.
We got a chair right here for you, by the way.
Just come on down.
I mean, I would have to go through the drug lord palace
and try to see if there's anything that was left behind.
Not the drugs.
No, no.
Just stuff.
The money.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
There's some things probably hidden in some.
Look under the bottom of the chairs.
That's why I used to always duct tape the extra cash.
Oh, yeah.
And I've seen documentaries and movies.
I mean, we're going to give a thorough search of this place at some point.
Cut the cushions, Arthur.
Ladies and gentlemen, Mark Henry.
Appreciate you, Mark. Appreciate you, Mark.
Thousand pound squat, 962 pound
deadlift, no straps.
He did just kind of swoop me up
on his shoulder. I mean, it was a wild scene.
And then he even put me in the car and he
rolled the window down and was like, alright, put your head
out there. And I was like, Mark. He's done it before.
What a nice guy. Oh yeah. He said I am on a long
list of wrestling people that he's done that to. and i asked him who and he was like well it's
not my job to tell you who ended up like this and i was like and then he said there were some legends
on there though and i'm like well all right that makes me feel good i'm excited for saturday we
all are it is fight week big thank you to mark henry for joining us sexual chocolate hall of
fame hall of fame and uh that busted open show is really good i'm a wrestling fan so i listen to it later it is really really cool to hear them talk about things and that
inside story i mean the wrestling world is its own world and it's it's its own world yeah the
stories are just electric all right can't thank you enough i'm so intrigued to see how tonight goes
to see you know the reaction from you guys.
We've got a podcast coming tomorrow, man.
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I am literally two minutes away from the arena.
Whatever happens tonight, I'm like literally two minutes away from the arena.
This is a wild time to be alive because I feel like there's probably going to be some shit that pops off here.
You know, a good podcast that's probably recorded is later in the night.
So I can give you a reaction tomorrow on the podcast.
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