The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 249 - OVERREACTION Monday With Ian Rapoport, Roman Harper, Coach Geoff Collins & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: September 14, 2020

We have a LOADED overreaction Monday to the first weekend of NFL football, Pat and the boys chat about the biggest surprises and biggest disappointments from week one. NFL Network Insider Ian Rapopor...t joins the show to discuss injuries from week one, and has some BREAKING news (20:00-38:10). Next, Super Bowl Champion, 2x Pro Bowler, and friend of the program, Roman Harper joins the show. He breaks down how the New Orleans Saints defensive effort stopped Tom Brady and the Buccaneers, why he thought there was sloppy football this weekend, and how Jamal Adams changes Seattle's defense (40:00-55:25). Lastly, Georgia Tech coach Geoff Collins joins for another installment of McAfee & Hawk Sports Talk to discuss their MASSIVE win over Florida State, how that helps their recruiting efforts immediately, the time when Coach Collins traveled to Centerville, OH to try and recruit AJ, and where the emphasis has been in rebuilding their roster (55:40-1:00:09). Don't forget to subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow.com as we approach one million subscribers and our biggest giveaway ever, and listen to the show from Noon-3 every day on Mad Dog Radio, SiriusXM Channel 82. We appreciate you all for listening, come and laugh with us. Cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello, it is Monday, September 14th. We got a show over reactions, birthday wishes, holy shit, great guests. Let's get to it. And today is my beautiful mother's birthday. So I'd like to start with saying happy birthday, Sally McAfee. I appreciate you for everything that you've ever done for me. Not, not including including birthing me i hope you have a fantastic day you're the absolute best now yesterday we got to watch nfl football for 11 hours 11 hours of the best thing on earth and today we'll overreact on this overreaction monday to everything we saw everything we heard including the including the fake fans, the this, the that, the that, the that, and everything we thought from week one. Now, and before we get to overreacting
Starting point is 00:00:52 about week one, I'd like to take a moment to chat about the one thing that stuck out to me that I'm not sure anybody else was talking about. The conversation early in the offseason was the plethora of quarterbacks that are going to be finding new homes. Those quarterbacks were rather unsuccessful yesterday, believe it or not. Was it because of the lack of OTAs or the lack of the ability to get together in large groups due to a worldwide pandemic? Or was it because it just naturally takes some time to build up a rapport in a new setting?
Starting point is 00:01:23 Tom Brady, who will forever be judged on how he does in tampa without old billy belichick takes an l yesterday throws two picks in the process one of which was a pick six and bruce arian's head coach said both were his fault and it was apparently he and his team weren't on the same page yet joey burrow new home back home in cincy loses but was incredibly impressive in the process phil rivers 25 million a year with the colts throws two picks yesterday in a loss to a team that everybody on earth thought was tanking they're bad picks too i would assume both his fault but they're not on rapport yet teddy bridgewater new home in carolina takes an l a lot of folks are
Starting point is 00:02:03 saying they should have given the ball to christian m McCaffrey on that fourth in like a half yard. But I'd like to take a moment to think about whether or not their previous QB would have picked that up. Speaking of that previous QB, he was the only one who had a new home who got a win yesterday. He was also with the team that he got a win with for the shortest amount of time. He was also the one who had less than 20 pass attempts. And he was the only one who was turned down by all of those other teams. All of them. Could have had Cam Newton.
Starting point is 00:02:36 They decided not to. Bill Belichick proves yet again that he's the best coach to ever coach football. All those other QBs are great. They all got paid much more than Cam, and we assume they'll all get it figured out with their respective teams and their respective offenses. But if we were to ask before the weekend, if only one quarterback that has a new home was to win this weekend, which one would it be? I'm not sure how many people would have said Cam Newton, but that man was unemployed for 86 nights, and he ended up in the only place that knows how to win games
Starting point is 00:03:05 no matter what cam looked unbelievable now every other team that paid their new quarterback much more money than cam has to sit in a meeting today and go damn bill belichick did it again cam newton is one of the five quarterbacks that have a new home that got a win yesterday the other four lost and a lot of people are saying it's their fault it's going to take a while to build up a rapport we all understand that but it's our time now to overreact to everything that happened yesterday including cam newton to the patriots on whether or not they're going to be stoppable or the tampa bay buccaneers a team that just stinks is the carolina panthers ever going to make the right decision? This is Overreaction Monday, and all the boys are here. At Tone Diggs
Starting point is 00:03:48 is here rocking a Steelers hoodie because tonight on Monday Night Football, traveling into New York Giants, Danny Dimes is home. They're a five and a half point favorite. How you feeling, Diggs, after week one's weekend has concluded? I like Danny Dimes. I like Saquon. You know, I like Joe Judge, but they are running to an
Starting point is 00:04:04 absolute fucking buzzsaw tonight, and that's Steelers defense. Well, that's Steelers defense, and also an offense as Ben Roethlisberger, who's no longer focusing on anything outside of football, just football and his family. The Steelers, I think, are who I'm hammering tonight, but I could be convinced by callers who might be diehard Giants fans. Also here at Boston, Connor, who for a couple days after Tom Brady decided to leave the Patriots
Starting point is 00:04:26 and Kyle Van Noy and the offensive line coach and the special teams coordinator, there was a couple days there where this kid, who's 25 years old, who has only celebrated the Patriots, has never seen them not be great. There was a couple days of doubt from this guy on what was going to happen to the Patriots. He was thinking about becoming a Tampa Bay Buccaneers fan. Actually bought the jersey because Sean Brady went there. Not true. Then after 86 nights of unemployment, Bill Belichick pulls a rabbit out of the hat,
Starting point is 00:04:57 signs Cam Newton for less money than everybody else, and now they're sitting at 1-0. And although everybody on the internet is like, well, it was the Dolphins. It was the Dolphins at Boston Conner. Patriots fans have to be loud right now, knowing that Josh McDaniels, Bill Belichick, that old-ass man Ernie in the sky, and Cam Newton are going to be able to figure it out. Plus, on the defensive side of the ball, still Bill Belichick's big brain
Starting point is 00:05:18 and Gilly Lock will not be letting anything happen at Boston Conner. You've got to feel good. I feel good. I'm not going to blow my load after the first week. We only beat the Dolphins, but it's clear we're going to the Super Bowl. I mean, it's going to be tough to stop us. And, of course, we control the ball. Time of possession, we had 34-12. I mean, it was a great day to be a Patriots fan.
Starting point is 00:05:34 And I put out a tweet yesterday that Cam Newton scored another touchdown for that team that everybody hates after being unemployed for 86 days and signing for less than everybody else. And I got a lot of tweets that were like, of course he has he has of course he has but then scattered in there on a pretty regular occasion was like no no we actually like the patriots now we we want cam newton to succeed which is a very weird thing because i found myself yesterday watching that game and i'm a ryan fitz magic guy oh yeah brian flores uh the head coach for the miami dolphins he chewed out a ref last year he's a he's a guy I like. But when I saw Cam Newton succeeding after everything that had happened this past offseason,
Starting point is 00:06:09 and maybe it's because I jumped on his side immediately upon seeing the first iconic Saga production, which was a video of him saying, like, basically, I've never been in this position before, and somebody is going to get him coming at your neck or at your throat, he was saying. I was like, oh, this guy's going to dominate. Watching him succeed yesterday was a lot of fun for me, and I am not a Patriot fan, and I think a lot of people were thinking that yesterday. How does that feel as a mass hole,
Starting point is 00:06:30 knowing that it feels like there's some people actually pulling for you guys? Honestly, I hate it. Anybody who's pulling for the Patriots now, if you weren't with us five years ago, you can fuck right off. But I do appreciate the love that Cam Newton and New England and Bill Belichick specifically are getting, because now that Timmy Tom, whatever the hell his name is, is in Tampa, it feels much better.
Starting point is 00:06:49 Okay. We'll talk about old Tommy Foxborough down there in Tampa. New Orleans Saints, by the way, whenever they jogged on that field and the place was empty, it was like, that'd be pretty cool just to run out the Superdome and be like, all right, I'll bring my team, you bring your team, let's play. That's kind of what it was because, by the way, Drew Brees and Tom probably set for four divisional games
Starting point is 00:07:08 here that will be talked about for a long, long time. Last night was the first one. Drew obviously beats the hell out of Tom Brady and the Buccaneers. But what's that Buccaneer team going to look like in five, six weeks? That is a real question. That is a very good question that people should ask. But at the current moment, Tom has
Starting point is 00:07:24 no idea what's going on. This isreaction Monday the Buccaneers stink Bruce Arians hates him they're never going to figure it out Bill Belichick 1-0 Tom Brady 0-1 he will never be remembered as being the greatest quarterback of all time because without Bill Belichick he hasn't been able to do it that's what overreaction Monday is all about at Ty Schmidt speaking of overreacting uh Aaron Rodgers MVP, it sure feels like that's inevitable. Yeah, I mean, he looks like he did during his MVP years. Still a couple drops here and there. I mean, like the Packers, the score doesn't indicate how much of a blowout it was. Like Rodgers should have thrown two more touchdowns.
Starting point is 00:07:57 The defense is still Swiss cheese. I mean, we kind of knew that, but they were opportunistic. But, yeah, Rodgers, some of those throws he was making yesterday, I mean, you could tell. He has. He's just absorbed all the bullshit people have said all offseason. And, I mean, I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility that he throws 60 touchdowns. Primetime Kirk, is he dead?
Starting point is 00:08:14 That's what overreaction Monday is all about. Vikings stink. Season's over. I don't know. They've got a big get-back game next week against the – Colts, I believe. Yeah. Oh, is that right?
Starting point is 00:08:25 Colts. We'll have a react to that, too. I mean, Joe Dirt had an interception. Okay. That put Phillip Rivers and the Indianapolis Colts to bed. Now, granted, there was a drop for a first down. I understand that by T.Y., who's normally very shorthanded. But that defense, gardner minchu had
Starting point is 00:08:45 one incompletion he went 19 of 20 yesterday he becomes the first quarterback in the history of the nfl to have above 95 percent passive rating or passive complete it was unbelievable that team with no i didn't know a single person on the fucking team miles jack i guess i knew him gardner minchu we knew him everybody else i had no idea who they were. Josh Lambeau, I saw you with the golf swing after you hit a 50-yard field goal. That was probably to shove it down my throat about everything I've been saying about the Jaguars. He's an incredible kicker. Logan Cook, great punter. But aside from that, I knew nobody, and they get a win over the Colts.
Starting point is 00:09:18 But Minnesota Vikings have a pretty good bounce-back game against the Colts next week. Will primetime Kirk be officially dead, or will the Colts be dead? That's what we're going to be overreacting to next week. Can't wait for that conversation. But Aaron Rodgers, the whole first half even, whenever they weren't blowing him out yet, he just looked like a maestro. He was like in control. He was doing this.
Starting point is 00:09:38 He was doing that. There was no real big mistakes. He looked very comfortable the entire time. He was laughing at more than numerous occasions, even after failed downs. Him and Harrison Smith had a moment wherever he was about to run and do i run do i not run do i run and then afterwards him and harrison smith laughing back and forth we'll have him on the show by the way aaron rogers tomorrow i don't know how long we'll be talking i hope long there's a lot happening in aaron rogers life right now and one of them is being absolutely dominant at football he looks unbelievable and that vikings, by the way, good defense.
Starting point is 00:10:06 Yeah, definitely. And Aaron Rodgers was very comfortable yesterday. They're young. I mean, he did. A couple of the throws that they converted yesterday were the kind of throws they were missing last year. There was the one right before halftime where he throws the 50-yard bomb for a touchdown.
Starting point is 00:10:20 Those plays, for whatever reason, weren't connecting last year. They were yesterday yesterday so i'm very confident going forward uh at jason mcafee 412 is here he was at a wedding all weekend oh yeah not his not his somebody else's congrats to jerry uh at evan foxy is here sitting next to at evan foxy is nobody whoa nobody what the? What? Did the Chicago Bears win a game? MVP Mitch come back in the fourth quarter and Zito decide to quit? No, no, no, no, no. No, no.
Starting point is 00:10:51 No, no, no, no, no. No, no. The Lions stink, by the way. Oh, boy. Oh, my God. The Lions stink. The Lions stink. The Lions stink.
Starting point is 00:10:59 Lions, Pat. I mean, it is. That is a tough. Before we even dive into that, Matt Patricia gave one of the most savage answers I've ever heard an NFL coach give. But on the flip side of that, MVP Mitch, fourth quarter Mitch, comeback Mitch. I mean, Mitchell Trubisky seems to be all the way back in a person who has never dotted Mitchell Trubisky, who has been celebrating and dancing on Foxy's grave all morning, has been moved out of the engine room into the big room at Viva Lazzito. You've got to be feeling damn good about the Bears. Bear died. All day, baby. Let's go.
Starting point is 00:11:32 Mitchell Trubisky, first three quarters, looked like a junior high quarterback. Fourth quarter, he was unstoppable. By the way, same Mitchell Trubisky story. Two years ago, number three overall QBR for the entire season. Field goal gets blocked. They don't get to extend in the NFC playoffs. Last year,
Starting point is 00:11:48 bad football player. Just very bad at football. Couldn't throw, couldn't hit anybody. For the first three quarters, it looked like last year was the Mitchell Trubisky. Then the fourth quarter
Starting point is 00:11:56 comes around and he just pulls his pants down and OBJs on the Detroit Lions like it was no big deal. Is Mitchell Trubisky back? And a lot of people are tweeting he was never here, but boy, what a fourth quarter for the Chicago Bears. Yeah, that's what happens if you have no preseason games.
Starting point is 00:12:11 He treats the first three quarters as preseason games. Yeah, that's very, very smart, by the way. Very smart. Zito will be the voice of the internet. He'll be reading through the YouTube comments section and the tweets that will utilize the hashtag Pat McAfee Show live to tweet alongside the show your questions your thoughts your polls that zito has a poll going on right now poll what's what's the poll you have right now uh
Starting point is 00:12:34 best quarterback that played yesterday and who was it uh it was mr unlimited obviously lamar jackson aaron rogers and of course mitchell trub Okay, because it's not – let's not have in there Kyler Murray who – No, no. No, no. Let's not have him. Let's have Mitchell Trubisky in there as the number four overall. He had the greatest QBR for fourth quarter, no big deal. Yeah, one quarter, four-quarter game, but I like – it's your poll.
Starting point is 00:12:57 It's not our poll. Thank you. You will keep us updated on that on the internet, and I'm thankful to have you in the big room, by the way. Thank you so much. Great to see you back. You know, because, you know, sometimes it gets boggedged down with things back there and we don't get a chance to hear that beautiful brain too much mr mansuri back there gumpy back there nick maraldo back
Starting point is 00:13:12 there billy tubes back there and it's a beautiful absolutely beautiful september 14th ian rapidport will join us in about nine minutes a lot of injury updates i would assume uh it is alleged that troy vincent sent a strongly worded memo to every nfl team about coaches mask um usage during games and if you're watching yesterday it's very obvious that when coaches were on tv whenever you first got on tv no mask was on okay i'm talking they can't hear what i'm saying It's hard to breathe in this thing. What are we doing? Everybody's been tested here. There's a lot of that going on. And then somehow, someway, they would relay a message to the coach.
Starting point is 00:13:52 Hey, you're on TV. And they'd pull that son of a bitch up so fast. Sean Payton actually got snot all over his thing because he had to pull it up so fast. So you could tell that the NFL had told the coaches, you have to have the mask on. And I think a lot of coaches were trying. But all coaches inevitably at the end of the day care about is winning football games. You know what helps winning football games?
Starting point is 00:14:09 Having easy communication to whoever you got to talk to. You know what hurts that? Just having your mouth completely covered because 80% of communication is nonverbal. Doesn't fucking matter anymore. Listen to the words that I'm saying, not the movement of my lips. It was quite a moment.
Starting point is 00:14:23 I guess Troy Vinson has told everybody that he keeps their mask on. I'll see how that gets dealt with next week i would assume andy reed's uh face windshield is probably going to be the thing that people start using even though i don't know how that would block anything yeah by the way at all anything at all i get it that i guess they're wearing a shield in front of their face but But if it's really to trap everything in, and remember, the athletic one that's all cotton, not a good enough mask. That mask is not good enough. Then the masks that have little breathing things so you don't die, not good enough.
Starting point is 00:14:55 The ones, though, that are N95 masks that Bill Belichick wore, by the way, with zero anything on them. Most Bill Belichick movies of all time, those are the only acceptable ones. So then whenever you see the windshield on people, it's like, well, is that acceptable? anything glorious most bill belichick move of all time those are the only acceptable ones so then whenever you see the the windshield on people it's like well is that that that's acceptable well well it's better than nothing which and then there's all you get into the conversation of well which mass are good which mass aren't good which mass work can this thing even spread from the who knows we don't even know what if somebody touches that windshield of andy reed like what happens do they get it ah what a clusterfuck but nfo weekend was awesome i'm so
Starting point is 00:15:30 pumped up about it digs your big oh let's get to the sidebar please we got a lot of things to talk about let's please put that big day overreaction monday that's our day tommy foxborough let's talk about tom brady before we have to get to a break because Ian Rapoport will be joining us in about seven minutes, six minutes. Tommy Brady, okay? Tommy Brady came out. I thought he looked pretty good. Dropped a couple balls in a bucket, threw some deep balls. It was like, okay, Tom likes what's going on there.
Starting point is 00:15:57 Ronald Jones, by the way, absolute monster. Leonard Fournette did not look good. Ronald Jones looked incredible. O.J. Howard had a catch in the end zone. O.J. Howard at one point wanted a trade, by the way, because he heard Gronk was potentially coming. Speaking of Gronk, not his best appearance. He's been out of the game for a little bit.
Starting point is 00:16:13 Let's see what happens. I think preseason games would have helped him. But, boy, Tom Brady's pick whenever he thought Mike Evans was going to zig, Mike Evans zags. Bruce Arians comes out afterwards and said, yeah, Mike Evans saw the right coverage. Tom didn't. So Tom's going to learn on that mike evans has been in this offense for longer than tom brady then the other pick he was late janoris jenkins jumped that thing there was
Starting point is 00:16:33 a lot of things i would assume to improve on but i think everybody says that's what tom brady does tom brady's a worker he'll get in there but it feels like that saints team didn't miss a fucking beat they are back and they are still a buzzsaw. A lot of people on ESPN this morning, Dan Orlovsky, who will be joining us probably in the next couple days, said Drew Brees' arm looked like a fucking noodle roll. He's not going to be able to do it. But I still think that team in New Orleans is great.
Starting point is 00:16:59 I think Tampa Bay Buccaneers figure it out, and I think ultimately in the end they'll be the team that goes the longest in the playoffs out of the NFC South. It hard it's hard to tell because like the Saints defense was incredible last year so is it the Saints defense or or is it the Bucs offense not looking great but because of it's because it's overreaction Monday Tommy stinks all right yeah overreaction Monday a lot of Tom Brady stinks a lot of Tom Brady can't win without Belichick a lot of Tom Brady a lot of Tom Brady is not going to have any success outside of being Tommy Foxborough.
Starting point is 00:17:29 But I would like to say, and have a little cooler heads prevail here, let's wait just a few fucking weeks, can we? Saints are very good at this. Let's just wait a few weeks, okay? The Saints have everybody back. Sean Payton actually said, we're not doing any Zoom calls, all right? I'll just see you guys at training camp. We already know each other, right?
Starting point is 00:17:44 Yeah. We know Kyle Rudolph pushed off last year yeah okay we know the year before that something terrible happened the past interference we know that right yep we know the year before that was the minneapolis miracle we all know that right okay everybody get in fucking shape i'll see you training that's what sean payton said well everybody else was trying to zoom calls and tom bready was trying to jump into parks i mean there's a lot of potential overreaction against the buccaneers and i assume that's what today is all about but that saints team is that saints team is very tight yeah just like we saw the chiefs the chiefs have a lot of uh continuity from last year you see the saints have a lot of continuity from last year a team that does have a lot of continuity from last year that ended up losing the 49ers are
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Starting point is 00:19:51 Cut water is pretty awesome. Let's get back to the show, and we appreciate them for being a sponsor. Joining us now is a man who's an insider for NFL Network and NFL.com, hosts a podcast called Rap Sheet and Friends, and was also a part of my retirement from the NFL skit whenever I joined Barstool Sports. Ladies and gentlemen, Ian Rapoport. Rapoport.
Starting point is 00:20:17 What's up? Ian, what's going on? I must say, that retirement was one of the great moments of my career. You know what? You walked in, obviously, punked me, said you were looking for Goodell as you walked out. But you sat on that news for like 11 hours or whatever. And I thank you for that. But I also think it was because you didn't think it was that big of a news.
Starting point is 00:20:37 It was kind of a slap in my face. So I don't really know. Well, I would say the main thing about it, I had to time it when the show was actually airing and, you know, to take people a little behind the curtain, not everything we do is live. I mean, this is live,
Starting point is 00:20:49 but that skit was not live. So I had to time it right when it aired on TV. Um, and I was at a party. I had, you know, had a drink to be social, nothing more.
Starting point is 00:21:04 And I literally almost forgot about it set an alarm for myself and was like what in the world could i have possibly set an alarm for like 11 32 p.m oh wait pat's retiring great uh well i appreciate you for being a part of that you've always been very cool to us except for whenever you dunked on conor the other day. Oh, yeah. Thanks a lot, Rappaport. Is he here? He made it? No, he had a rough weekend. He had a rough weekend. He hit himself in there.
Starting point is 00:21:29 Oh, yeah. All right, rap sheet. All right, forget that. I got to be honest. So, you know, I'm buddies with Tom Palacero and Mike Garofalo, another one of my – part of our reporter team. Great guys, great reporters. part of our reporter team, great guys, great reporters.
Starting point is 00:21:51 We shared a moment of solidarity when Tom absolutely destroyed you last week. And I would say, no offense or anything, but I would say, we didn't hear from Garofalo, but I know silently he was fist pumping as well. Look, I'm just glad. You have a lot of pride to be able to show up today. Yeah, all right, you geek. Just get to the goddamn interview. Jesus. All right, Ian.
Starting point is 00:22:12 Thank you for everything you just did right there. That was very, very awesome. We'll talk about that for days to come, especially on Wednesday when we don't have shit to talk about. But let's start there. Boston Connor. He was bummed until he saw the New England Patriots play the way they played.
Starting point is 00:22:26 Cam Newton goes 15 of 19 with one drop from Julian Edelman. Then there's a little bit of an exchange. Cam Newton, after the game, says that they were trying to yank his chain, break his chain. Then he goes and does his interview. You hear Bill Belichick do a classic pro game press conference about what the game's reminding him to practice,
Starting point is 00:22:42 and then he moved on. What are you hearing about New England? Because today everybody's like well it's not sustainable it's not sustainable what's the word out of that building today i would assume they've got to be thrilled and i assume they haven't even we haven't even kind of tasted what they're going to do with cam newton for the rest of the year yeah i mean i think we saw a little bit of a glimpse of it and you know it's weird like i have felt i mean look tom brady's the greatest of all time so i don't mean to say the patriots were looking to move away from brady they were certainly not but i have always kind of felt in my gut that the patriots wanted to embrace some of the newer concepts of the nfl basically what college has been doing with running
Starting point is 00:23:20 quarterbacks with creating favorable matchups fun with, all the sorts of things you get to do if you can have a quarterback who can really run and kind of be smart doing it. You know, the kind of ball handling things that Cam does, you know, making the defender read, taking the ball out. Dak does a great job in Dallas too. I mean, these are the kinds of things that I really feel like the Patriots have wanted to do for some time, but because they have the greatest quarterback ever, they have not been able to. That was a really fun and interesting thing to see.
Starting point is 00:23:51 I don't know why it's not sustainable. I mean, aren't we past that where we say like, oh, this running quarterback is going to get hit eventually? There's like 10 of them who are dominating the NFL right now. Like at some point you got to say, all all right, this is probably here to stay. Yeah, and the people that say that are stupid. Dan Orlovsky and other people like that. I mean, they've been saying it for a long time, and it's true. Every quarterback
Starting point is 00:24:14 is one bad hit away, I guess, from being done, but those quarterbacks that just go ahead and park it in the pocket, they also get their knees run up on as well. Cam Newton is just a different level human at this point, and he's playing great. But I think the Patriots, to your point,
Starting point is 00:24:28 saw what Lamar Jackson was able to do with them last year against them, and they kind of went into that whole thing. Let's talk about that Ravens-Browns game. The Ravens look better than ever. Lamar Jackson looks better than he looked last year. His throwing, I mean, he almost missed a guy wide open in the end zone. But aside from that, he was dropping the ball on a dime. He looked just as fast. And on the flip side, the Browns looked horrendous. I mean, they looked like a very, very, very bad football team. Baker Mayfield
Starting point is 00:24:53 did not look great. Is there a conversation, like we've been saying it, but we know nothing about anything. Like Baker Mayfield has to play good football this year. He's no longer an NFL quarterback, right? And how long is the leash you think the new GM, new head coach, and everybody has on Baker in this overreaction Monday that we're having here week one? Yeah, I mean, overreaction is right, because it is just one game. But it was not a good game. I mean, and I think the problem is, you know, for Baker, number one pick, all the talent in the world, the kind of guy with enough swag and confidence you'd like him to be the face of your franchise. Great actor.
Starting point is 00:25:31 He played great last year. And I know that Kevin Stefanski coming in, one of the things he wanted was for Baker to be in better shape and be more ready to play football. And then you get to the first game, and he wasn't accurate. He didn't play well. And I think the team as a whole didn't play well um i don't know how troubling it is but if it keeps happening it will be troubling because
Starting point is 00:25:52 you know what you said is right it's a new gm it's a new coach you know you're you love the quarterback that you inherited especially when they got taken number one but at some point not now but at some point if they don't perform, you've got to think about some things because, you know, it's professional and jobs are on the line and you just need, I mean, you need a quarterback to come in and play well. I don't know what's next. I just know it needs to improve.
Starting point is 00:26:20 There's no way the Browns are this bad. I think it's possible the Ravens are really good. But we're going to get a real good glimpse of them on Thursday. Funny you said that because I actually put up a poll yesterday that has over like 33,000 votes on my Twitter. I said, so are the Ravens unbelievable or the Browns just not good? 71.4% of the experts on Twitter, which, by the way, there are a plenty, over 33,000 votes say the browns just not good ravens are
Starting point is 00:26:45 unbelievable but i think the ravens looked like unstoppable i mean they look better than they looked last year now granted the titans game in the playoffs kind of a buzzkill but everything else was great lamar didn't even skip a step now let's talk about some injuries that happened yesterday because you are an insider and you know more shit than anybody else i'll say because i feel like you do have a direct tap which i can respect michael thomas last night that late roll up and i saw i saw there was a little bit of like a dance by him anytime somebody rolls on your ankles and i'm not sure if he had his ankles taped or anything like that which is even more insane for how good he's been if he hasn't had his ankle tape he jogs over to this side then there's like kind of a report michael thomas
Starting point is 00:27:24 one of the best runners he was in the nfl potentially hurt his ankle taped. He jogs over to this side. Then there's kind of a report Michael Thomas, one of the best wide receivers in the NFL, potentially hurt his ankle yesterday. What are you hearing on that situation? And what are some other injuries that we should definitely keep our eyes open as we go into gamble into week two? Yeah, I mean, I don't know about gambling, but just recreationally and for fantasy only, not for money. Although I guess gambling is legal now.
Starting point is 00:27:40 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Enough with the shit, Ian. You're sued. All right, yeah, you're sued. Anyway. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Enough with the shit, Ian. You're sued. All right. You're sued. Anyway. Yeah, all right. So, yes.
Starting point is 00:27:50 I don't know what the extent of Michael Thomas' injury is. I saw it. I'm checking on it. I do not know a definitive word. I mean, it didn't look too serious, but then again, it's not my ankle. So, I think that's one that hopefully we'll find out more kind of throughout today um Marlon Mack is going to be out for the season the starting running back for the Colts not good you know he is not a big name player but he is really productive when he's right yeah I mean I'm
Starting point is 00:28:15 sure yeah he is I mean maybe if you haven't been fantasy you care but I'm sure a lot of people didn't care about that news today he is a very good play yeah he's very important to a team that lost to a team that was trying to lose yeah i agree yeah i saw that what happened all right any other injuries levy on bell maybe huh you want to talk about that yeah so maybe on bell he had a hamstring that he it did not look great he's going to have an mri later this afternoon what's interesting now is you know if he's going to be out for two or three weeks he could end up on ir because everyone could end up on IR this year. It's just a different deal, the short-term IR.
Starting point is 00:28:49 Two other big ones that happened last night, Blake Jarwin, tight end for the Dallas Cowboys, likely tore his ACL. He's got an MRI later today. And then Leighton Van Der Esch, one of the best young linebackers in the NFL, broke his collarbone probably out about six weeks damn how about uh Kenny Clark Kenny Clark for the Packers Kenny Clark had a groin injury that's another one we're checking I believe he's got some tests and MRI today uh no word yet on the severity there's a couple not a couple there is a lot of groin and hamstring injuries today that
Starting point is 00:29:21 you're checking on and you know I mean there's nothing like checking another man's groin so obviously we're going to keep you updated on that one well you'll keep your nose to the resources obviously and that's why we appreciate everything you do ian i just got a text message to remind me there's some real eagles drama right there's some real eagles drama with zach ertz and then dallas goddard being the backup having a big day and then he and howie roseman allegedly got into an animated conversation because he has been a great tight end for the Eagles for a while now, won a Super Bowl for them. And now he's seeing all these other tight ends.
Starting point is 00:29:52 Kittle got paid. Kelsey got extended. A lot of quarter. Austin Hooper just got paid, although he didn't get extended with the Falcons. He ends up on the Browns. What is that? Is that real? And I would assume after giving up a massive lead in the first half
Starting point is 00:30:04 and losing in the second half to the Washington football team, that does not help things get eased over even more. No, and, you know, the business side of things is always almost like a different animal than the actual playing. I mean, Zach Ertz is great. The Eagles, I think, are going to be okay. Offensive line was not good. Carson got hit a lot, but I think they're going to be okay.
Starting point is 00:30:25 But, yeah, I mean, so from my understanding, Zach Ertz and general manager Howie Roseman were involved in a very animated conversation. There was some frustration. They hugged it out in the end, got some, you know, sort of got on the same page, I would say. But yeah, I mean, his contract, his future, whether or not they're going to extend him certainly seems unlikely now. That's going to continue to be a storyline this season. And part of the problem is, you know, they drafted maybe his replacement in Dallas Goddard, who had a big game yesterday. If you're the Eagles and it's, you know, are you going to give Zach Ertz a third contract? Are you going to trade him?
Starting point is 00:30:59 That's, I know for fans, I mean, Zach Ertz is a fan favorite and has been one of the faces of that franchise. But that's actually a really difficult decision how to proceed. All right, we have a diehard Eagles fan in here. Your thoughts on this entire thing, Lou? We played a rugby player at right tackle for the game. I mean, that's all I got. Let's just wait until next week. I mean, we played a rugby player at right tackle.
Starting point is 00:31:18 How does the Eagles always end up hurt? It does feel like they always end up hurt. The entire left side of the line out. They had a rugby player playing right tackle for the second half. They got Zach Ertz and Howie Roseman fighting each other. And Carson Wentz is a very good quarterback. And he still somehow manages to keep them in games. Now, yesterday he didn't have a great second half.
Starting point is 00:31:37 Obviously, he had a pretty bad second half. But what is it with that Eagles team that just feels like they are just cursed? They win a Super Bowl and then they're just cursed and cursed and cursed. Yeah, I mean, Snake bit a little bit on the offensive line. It's going to be interesting to see how Carson adapts here. I mean, he's obviously great. He's not going to have a lot of time. We saw, like, Patrick Mahomes, great player, was an MVP,
Starting point is 00:32:00 probably doesn't need to improve on a ton. He got the ball out in two and a half seconds constantly on Thursday night. I wonder if we see the Eagles kind of do that and adapt to that. I don't know because at some point he can't drop back like he has been and keep getting hit, especially if this offensive line is going to continue. Oh, what's happening? What's the update? Tell us what the update is.
Starting point is 00:32:29 Let's go. Live on air right here. Let's do it. Say it. Say it. Do it. So, no. Say it.
Starting point is 00:32:38 Say it. I have to tweet before I say it. No, you don't. That's not true at all. That's not true at all. No, no, no. I mean, it's. Hold on. Here's not true at all.
Starting point is 00:32:47 Here's the deal. I'm going to tweet it now. I'll tell you. It's nothing major. It's Leighton Van Der Esch, clean break, out six to eight weeks, which we knew he was going to have a surgery. Pat, I'm going to embarrass you right now. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:03 I'm going to tweet while you tell a story. Is that okay? Yeah, yeah. You got to do what you got to do. So the thing about that Dallas Cowboys team is just like every other year, they're being hyped up as if they are this great football team. Mike McCarthy comes in. He's a guy who's been there, done that.
Starting point is 00:33:17 He has won games before. And now they got the clapper out. He's back in the Giants. Who knows how that's going to go tonight. But the Dallas Cowboys seem to be the same old story, the same old song and dance. Dak Prescott, quarterback who played his best year of his life last year, should have got broken off completely, everybody thought.
Starting point is 00:33:36 Now we go into this game. Ezekiel Elliott's fashion he's ever been seems to be bigger than he's ever been and has a tattoo on his stomach that says, feed me. He juked four people on one particular play. Al Michaels and Chris Collinsworth, who are normally unbelievable, didn't say anything about it. And the reason they didn't say anything about it is because the Los Angeles Rams seem to be dunking on the Cowboys all night.
Starting point is 00:33:58 Jared Goff looked better than he's ever looked. The offense that Sean McVay was drawing up made it look very, very simple. There was a player that I didn't even know exists in their backfield running around who had black shoes on when everybody else was wearing anything with the brand new uniform. Out of last night's game,
Starting point is 00:34:16 Van Der Esch out six to eight weeks. We just learned via your tweet. Hey, Pat, I want to ask you a story. I said I was going to embarrass you. I'm going to embarrass you now. Okay, ready? Yeah, I'm ready to ask you a story I said I was going to embarrass you, I'm going to embarrass you now I heard a story And you need to confirm this Tom Telesco
Starting point is 00:34:32 Was In San Diego He was interviewing for the Chargers job He had his second interview He missed His son's career day Can you take us from there? there yeah so he had to go uh it wasn't career day he had to read a book to the classroom so it was like he had to read to his
Starting point is 00:34:53 kid's classroom uh each parent was assigned a different week throughout the school year tom telesco who is the man who i've learned now was the reason why i got drafted he's obviously the general manager for the Los Angeles Chargers. He watched me at the Meineke Car Care Bowl, which was my last senior game. I had like an hour warm-up where I was just kicking and kind of, you know, fucking around a little bit because it was my last game. And he was supposed to watch, I think, Akeem Hicks there, and I think he was supposed to watch Pat White, Steve Slayton.
Starting point is 00:35:20 He reports back to Bill Pullian, yeah, those guys are all good, but I think we found a guy who can punt. He just has a big leg, and he kicked for like two hours during the game or whatever. So he gets me in there. He's the first person I meet in Indianapolis whenever I come out on a visit. I shake hands. Thank you. How's it going, Tom?
Starting point is 00:35:35 Then whenever Tom gets the gig for the Chargers, obviously I'm happy for him. Everybody's happy for him. So I send him like a congratulatory text, like, hey, congrats. Have a good time out there. See you later. He goes, oh, thank you, Pat. I can't wait. It should be fun, buh-buh. Great getting to know you. Then like four hours congrats. Have a good time out there. See you later. He goes, Oh, thank you, Pat. Uh, I can't wait to, it should be fun, buh, buh. Great getting to know you. Then like four hours later, I get a text back. He's like, Hey, uh, by the way, is there any way
Starting point is 00:35:51 you could go read to my kid's class tomorrow? Because that's supposed to be me. If you could just act like you're like uncle Pat or whatever, that'd be great. So I go in there and I've never read a book in my life. So I go in there, I'm reading to them. I leave. I take off. Uncle Pat just meets his nephews for the first time. I had no idea who the kid was. And we kind of get out there. Yeah. Not embarrassing, by the way.
Starting point is 00:36:13 Big hero move out of me. Because I don't really like kids. I don't really like kids that much. And it was a big day. Let's talk about the Chargers. Chargers beat the Bengals yesterday. Kicker misses kick for the Bengals. Obviously it was tough. He allegedly has a calf strain. Is he
Starting point is 00:36:30 healthy? Is he okay for the Bengals? Are the Bengals currently looking for a kicker? I mean, they are not looking for a kicker from what I understand. Oh, it was the lie. That's tough. Can't have it. Sorry, Pat. I know you were looking to come out of retirement there. No, no, no. It's a cramp, not's tough. Can't have it. Sorry, Pat. I know you were looking to come out of retirement there. No, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:36:47 It's a cramp, not a strain. I think he's okay. Look, I don't know what happened. It didn't seem great. I know there's some frustration there. And the problem is, look, I get it. Kickers are what they are. What the hell is that?
Starting point is 00:37:03 Your friends are kickers. Yeah, insiders are. Kickers are what they are. What the hell is that? Your good friends are kickers. Yeah, insiders are. Kickers are what they are. Yeah, insiders are. I'm just saying, like, when the number one pick leads you down to tie the game and sets you up for a chip shot,
Starting point is 00:37:12 that's tough. Not good. And I think he threw a touchdown right before that. Yeah, he's agreeing. And then there was OPI to get backed up. So Joe Burrow
Starting point is 00:37:19 has a game-winning drive, by the way, in his first game. He is everything we thought he was. He's clutch. He's cool. thought he was. He's clutch. He's cool. He's confident. He's making passes.
Starting point is 00:37:27 He's leading a team that doesn't have an indoor practice facility, and they're getting a big win opening week, and then all of a sudden, kicker blows the opportunity. Sambo song and dance. But when you have a cramp in your leg, think about it. When you get a cramp, you can't even walk. How is that guy supposed to make a kick when his entire body is cramping? That is what I want Ian Rappaport to find out.
Starting point is 00:37:46 We will follow him on Twitter for that. Ladies and gentlemen, the insider for NFL Network, host of Rap Sheet and Friends. Thank you so much for joining us, Ian. Good stuff, man. I always enjoy it. Sorry I had to take a time out to tweet. No, no, no. Thanks for breaking the news kind of on our show immediately.
Starting point is 00:38:00 Kind of. There you go. That's a great tweet right there. Look at that. As reported on Pat McEwen. Beautiful. Hey, 206 retweets already. Not too shabby, pal. Ladies and gentlemen, Ian Rapoport. Thank you, Ian.
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Starting point is 00:39:53 be doing might not be helping whoop will tell you it's the greatest let's get back to the show now ladies and gentlemen is a super bowl, a two-time Pro Bowler, and spent 11 years in the NFL, nine of them, with the 1-0 New Orleans Saints. Ladies and gentlemen, Roman Harper. Hey, Roman. Hey, Roman. Yo, yo, yo. What's good, guys?
Starting point is 00:40:18 Sorry about that. Hey, no problem. It's good to see that your neck is still as massive as we saw it the last time. How have you been, pal? Good, man. How about you guys? I can't really complain, man. I'm trying to hit the gym here in a little bit before I go to work.
Starting point is 00:40:33 So it's good. Well, I think you have to feel great about what the Saints did yesterday. Drew Brees and Tom Brady kick off their four-game series, divisional series that we expect over the next couple years. Tom Brady and the Buccaneers did not look great couple picks couple this and the Saints look like the Saints they always look like defense was flying around Alvin Kamara was scoring Drew Brees was doing his thing what is some of your takeaways after yesterday's prime time key matchup well I thought if Tampa Bay was
Starting point is 00:41:01 going to get the game it would have to be that one without the fans it was just very new for everybody but I I wasn't surprised by a lot of things that I saw yesterday I thought if Tampa Bay was going to get the game, it would have to be that one without the fans. It was just very new for everybody. But I wasn't surprised by a lot of things that I saw yesterday. I thought Tampa Bay's defense played a lot better than what people anticipated them to do. I thought the Saints' defense played lights out. They had the turnovers, the big plays. I thought offensively the Saints, they still were a little bit methodical, but they got Alvin Kamara going.
Starting point is 00:41:21 I think they have to figure out the whole one-two punch between the running back situation. I think they're starting to do a better job with that. Sean Payton gettingvin Kamara going. I think they have to figure out the whole one-two punch between the running back situation. I think they're starting to do a better job with that. Sean Payton getting the play calling going. And it was just a big kiss my rear end when Sean Payton hit with the last second, like the play in the fourth quarter that takes him. He'll throw a back throw to Alvin Kamara. I think that's going to pay dividends going forward.
Starting point is 00:41:43 So I want to see how this whole thing, this rivalry is going to continue to ratchet up as we've got the two best quarterbacks in the NFL that are still playing in the same division. And we have to see this over and over. But I think both of these teams, we'll see them definitely in the playoffs. And as we saw yesterday, it's a lot of bad ball out there, Pat. It's a lot of bad ball in the NFL. And these two teams were not two of the teams that we say played bad ball yesterday. Okay, so Roman Harper, 11 years in the NFL, Super Bowl champion, pro bowler multiple times.
Starting point is 00:42:10 I was thinking that as well. There was a lot of bad football yesterday. A lot of people were like, no, the game is good. The game has been good. But I saw a lot of decisions being made that weren't great. I saw a lot of things that were kind of off. How long do you expect the feeling out period be for a couple of these teams that look like absolute dog shit yesterday uh you know i'm thinking two to three weeks but a lot of these teams can't dodge the dog shit if you live in it you live in it and a lot of these teams are not
Starting point is 00:42:36 able to get out of their own way we saw cincinnati find a way to lose the game we saw detroit live find a way to lose the game we saw carolina panthers on fourth and one you just paid a running back 16 million dollars a year give it to your fullback that's a question mark that you you ask hey joe brady you're the man you're a great play caller carolina was in that game yesterday and we give it to christian mccaffrey find a way to lose a game um it's it's it's so hard to win games in the nfl and we still see week after week teams finding ways to lose the game. The Jets did not look good. Cleveland was another team that looked really dysfunctional.
Starting point is 00:43:11 They looked bad. They needed a preseason more than anybody, I feel like, looking back on it. A lot of these teams, they needed this practice time to at least, hey, this is how we're going to line up when we're warming up. This is how we're going to do stretch. Not alone, not even talking about play calling and things like that, but just the little fundamentals that goes into winning a football game. Everybody thinks about the offensive side, how quarterback and a wide receiver might not be on the same page
Starting point is 00:43:34 for the first couple weeks, but on the defensive side of the ball, it's a big deal too. If you've never actually been in live bullets, I would assume that that's a pretty monster ordeal. That's why whenever you see the Saints eat up Tommy, I mean, they were eating him and there was a couple yeah they were there was a couple balls that were dropped into a bucket from tom brady that i think if you're a buccaneer stand you're like okay whenever he figures out
Starting point is 00:43:52 this offense where he's supposed to go it's going to be good news but that saints defense seemed to be better than they've ever been potentially at this point no i really like what they have secondary wise their secondary is what really stands out to me that right now you can bring malcolm jekins in and play him alongside uh demario davis and then you can bring in uh gardner johnson or he uh he goes by some other name now um and then you have you have dj swearinger and then you have the two corners that it really lights out and you got williams in the marcus williams you have the two corners that are really lights out and you got Williams in the Marcus Williams you had the interception but anytime you can hold their best receiver Michael
Starting point is 00:44:29 Evans told one catch and that was on Demario Davis in the red zone that's a hell of a day and I applaud the Saints for being able to go out there and do what they did yesterday it was a great effort defensively and that allowed for them the defensive line to eventually start to impact Tom Brady because we all know he does not like to get hit. And he's a statue sitting in the pocket. So if you can disrupt him timing-wise, and next you know he throws one bad ball, Janoris Jenkins picks six, that's all you need as a defense to try and help your team win that game and kind of swing the momentum, steal possessions.
Starting point is 00:44:59 And you look up, that's how the Saints won that game yesterday. Whenever you were playing a long time, very successful, there's a lot of statues standing in that pocket. A lot of statues. The game is changing. If you look at that Niners team, the defense led them for most of the year last year. Yesterday, they had problems with Kyler Murray. I mean, absolute problems with Kyler Murray.
Starting point is 00:45:18 Then you look at what the Patriots did with the Dolphins, and you look at what Lamar Jackson was able to do. And Patrick Mahomes can extend plays. It feels like the game is changing right in front of our eyes, and NFL defenses are going to have to figure the fuck out very, very quickly because Kyler Murray was a problem yesterday for that 49ers defense, which has been heralded
Starting point is 00:45:35 as maybe the greatest defense since the 85 Bears coming out of this whole thing. Yeah, but then you see what Kyler Murray can do in this type of offense where it's so spread out. He has a legit number one wide receiver. Oh, yeah. With all due respect to Larry Fitzgerald, but Larry's older now. DeHop is a boss.
Starting point is 00:45:51 And the fact that you can implement him into this offense, you see the benefits of it immediately, which just shows us more and more of what in the world is Houston doing. But we're not even going to switch subjects like that. Let's stay focused here. And I love the Cardinals going forward i i think this is just going to give them so much confidence because this is a game they weren't supposed to win these you bring you bring great players around kyle and murray and you actually know you say
Starting point is 00:46:14 hey this guy can execute you just give him the ball he's going to make things happen and i listened to what mike vick said about him last year that hey he's going to figure out a way to where hey i don't have to just run the ball here because it's designed to run. I don't have to just hold on to the ball to try and show that, hey, I can throw the ball to be a thrower. But effectively using the timing of when in which you use your legs to break the pocket, which is going to make people start to come up against the run. And now you'll be able to get more guys open down the field. And that is how you're going to figure out that balance of when he's going to be able to do it and using his athleticism. He's going to be a real, real threat because of his elite speed when he's on the field and that is how you're going to figure out that balance of when he's going to be able to do it and using his athleticism he's going to be a real real threat because of his elite speed
Starting point is 00:46:48 when he's on the field he has a hose too there was a couple yeah there was a couple where he just went like this and that ball was I mean an absolute hose and yesterday saw him slide in the pocket a couple of times whenever he was about to get killed now there's always the awkward Peyton Manning fall in the Eli Manning fall and the Tom Brady fall. And Kyler Murray yesterday was sliding like in the pocket even, not even outside of like, all right, I can't get killed. I understand that. But Kyler Murray has to see what Lamar Jackson has done
Starting point is 00:47:15 and Patrick Mahomes has been able to do and think to himself, that could be me. But in the Cardinals, on the defensive side of the ball, they paid Buda Baker. And a lot of people were very confused by it. Like, why'd you pay? Buda Baker is a game changer. Then you got Chandler Jones over there.
Starting point is 00:47:30 Just like what you said, you're a believer in the Cardinals. Me too. Like, I think the world is becoming a believer in the Cardinals because they're completely well-rounded. Zane Gonzalez is not going to have a job for a long time kicking, but they seem to be very well-rounded over there. They seem to be a full team. Hey, look, I like the Cardinals.
Starting point is 00:47:45 It's a really tough division. I'm still going to take Seattle to win the West because of Russell Wilson and just his ability to just will his team over and over. I don't know how. He has continued to rise his game. He throws the best deep ball in the NFL, in my opinion. And I just, I still like Seattle. But Arizona is a team on the rise.
Starting point is 00:48:01 It's still going to come down to can this coach get them going? All right. I still don't know about our trusted coach as much. It is week one. It is the biggest overreaction week, like you just said. And now all these teams are in a race to improve, to get better by week two, week three, week four. You got to get out of this first quarter at least above 500
Starting point is 00:48:20 to give yourself a chance mentally as a team. Hey, we need to get it going. And I think that was a swift kick in the butt yesterday. The 49ers, a little bit of a Super Bowl hangover. We've all been there. If you've actually been to a Super Bowl, you know what it's like. So it's just going to happen. But I do like Arizona going forward.
Starting point is 00:48:36 Can we not give all these kickers a break all the time? I saw a lot of bad kicking games yesterday, over the weekend, from college to the NFL. Texas Bates kicker. I mean, I wouldn't even let yesterday over the weekend from college to the NFL. Texas State's kicker. I mean, I wouldn't even let him on the bus with me. Hey! Whoa! Whoa!
Starting point is 00:48:52 That was bad. That was a bad performance. I mean, that is a tough. And by the way, Randy Bullock with the Bengals, your number one overall pick. He has a game-winning drive at home. First game, like just didn't walk down. And then that happens. That is a tough, tough go. But, hey, first game, like just didn't walk down, and then that happens. That is a tough, tough go.
Starting point is 00:49:07 But, hey, first week, got to get the jitters out. Hey, got to get the jitters out. We'll be back next week better than ever. But Guy's going to start making kicks. Guy's going to start making kicks. Right now. I am sick of it. What do you have, Connor?
Starting point is 00:49:17 Roman, you just mentioned the Seahawks. How big is it for them to get a guy like Jamal Adams in there, and how does he change a defense? So, I think he changed a difference because the defenses are going out of what you see in basketball a lot more positionless football on defense so now we want to have more guys that are just athletic that have big enough size to where i can put them in the box and i'm not scared for them if a guard pulls they'll be able to fit in the run right they're smart because they can play you know i was always taught the further away from the ball you are,
Starting point is 00:49:45 the smarter you have to be. So DBs were extremely smart. Of course. So he's smart enough to figure out the run game fits. He's also can play in the pass game. He can play man to man. He can blitz. So now we're able to put him all over the field,
Starting point is 00:49:57 and you don't really know what we're doing or what we're bringing. And it's not just like we've got a lot of big guys out there. So more positionless football defensively when we're drawing up schemes. We just want a whole bunch of safeties and DBs and like smaller linebackers that can just run. And then you can put them all over the place, and now we can maybe drop them in the middle of the field. We can also blitz them from a hash.
Starting point is 00:50:17 You can do a lot of different things like that. I think that's what Jamal Adams really is. He almost reminds me, and I don't want to toot my own horn, but he reminds me a lot of myself. Oh! Tintin! Tintin! You can play him all over the place. He can play some man-to-man
Starting point is 00:50:34 coverage on tight ends and wide receivers in the slot. You can blitz him off the edge. He can do a lot of things, and he's also very viable in the run game. I'm just saying. He reminds me a lot of myself. That's what I thought whenever I watched him was, you know what, Roman Harper, this guy, very similar. The defense, though, the defense having to keep up with the offense, though.
Starting point is 00:50:52 That's why, like, Isaiah Simmons was such a big deal coming out of Clemson because that guy can move. What is he, a DN? No. Is he a linebacker? Is he a safety? Nah, he's everything. And what you just said there about positionless defense is very interesting
Starting point is 00:51:03 because the Patriots were going to pay Aqib Tlaib I guess like six million dollars just to guard the tight end and I thought to myself well that means if the Patriots are doing copycat league everybody else will be doing the exact same thing but you see it going in a different direction where it's like hey we just got 11 athletes out here our best athletes are either going to be rushing the passer or guarding the wide receivers and everybody else just kind of fill in there because if you look at the linebackers they've all gotten smaller they've all gotten faster and they're all trying to keep up with the offenses that are led by kyler murray mahomes lamar jackson and others joey burrow by the way can scoot scoot people forget about yeah you can that so that's the future of defenses you think on the nfl i think
Starting point is 00:51:40 the more you see offenses starting to open it up and go to a college-looking scheme, you've got to be able to keep up. So you're going to have to continue to recruit and get bigger guys that can run and play in space. They have to be comfortable. You're not going to see the big Mike linebacker that's a thumper on second and third down because most teams are playing more spread out, more three wide receiver personnel. They're not playing as much fullbacks, things like that. So you have to try and adjust and stay ahead of the times. And then it also allows you, hey, when people get up in motion,
Starting point is 00:52:11 all right, how are we going to handle that? Because now if my guy just goes over there with him, you automatically tell yourself that we're playing man-to-man coverage. So allowing it to be able to, when he motions, to let it eat on defense, that, hey, we're just going to communicate across the board what's going on, but we all feel comfortable in playing against these guys or covering against these guys in space. That is where it's going, and so it's more positionless where you see now in basketball, guys can guard from the one to the five or from the four all the way down to the one just because
Starting point is 00:52:37 it allows us all to play more. We can create more space, and that's what everybody's going to. I think that is where it's going. A little caveat, I taught you something today. I always feel good, Pat, but I can come on your show and teach you a little something. No, no, yeah, but while you were talking about that, I was like, well, what teams are going to benefit from a defense that's getting smaller? And I just can't help but think about the team
Starting point is 00:52:55 that had seven offensive linemen on the field, two tight ends, and a fullback with a 260-pound quarterback that was running powers all over everybody. That seems like the patriots are about to just take advantage of that is a nightmare while you were that's all i could think about like lamar jackson obviously that they have three tight end sets and everything like that so they'll take advantage of that but with the patriots they had like maybe seven tons of human on the field at
Starting point is 00:53:21 one point and they're all just running at like two people they'll take advantage and that's why football is cyclical it'll all come back around to the run game at some point yes it will and you look at and also when you're counting in the run game against quarterbacks that we never count quarterbacks in the run game because it's 10 on 10 and then you always got a back a safety that's deep that accounts for the 11th man in the run game so it really makes it tough that's why those plays are so designed so well and set up for Cam yesterday. When he would go around the edges, they create a short edge, put everybody away from him, and then run around the end
Starting point is 00:53:51 because nobody accounts for the quarterback in the run game. We just don't do that defensively. So now I know a lot of teams are trying to schematically try and change that as they play the Patriots. But the question mark still remains for the Patriots. I love what Cam did. But my boy Rob Ninkervis told me who is he throwing the ball to?
Starting point is 00:54:07 That would be the question mark for the Patriots going forward. Who is he going to throw the ball to? Who is he throwing it to? Who is he throwing the ball to? Who is he throwing it to in Carolina? Steve Smith. Greg Olsen. Ever heard of him?
Starting point is 00:54:22 Look, you got Julian Edelman who's 34 years old who's on one knee. So that's your number one guy. I know it's good for a whole bunch of slant routes and things like that, but if you ever get down, we got to have somebody to take it over the top. We need somebody to be able to open this thing up. And not only that, but our defense in Carolina was pretty freaking good in 2015. I'm just saying.
Starting point is 00:54:41 Yeah, have a little respect. Is this as good as the Panthers secondary in 2015? Get'm just saying. Yeah, have a little respect. Have a little respect. Is this as good as the Panthers' secondary in 2015? Get out of here. All right, Roman, we can't wait to have you back on. You're incredible.
Starting point is 00:54:52 You look like you're in better shape than you've ever been. I assume somebody's going to call you. Ladies and gentlemen, Super Bowl champion, Pro Bowler, 11 years in the NFL, Roman Harper.
Starting point is 00:55:00 Appreciate you. Thanks, Pat. Appreciate it, man. Thanks, guys. No, we appreciate you. Boy, am I thankful that football is happening everywhere except for in the Big Ten. Well, you never know.
Starting point is 00:55:12 Today's the day, right? Aren't they going to? How long can they continue to play this out, though? It seems like when's the vote happening? What are we doing? Who knows? The vote was supposed to be yesterday. I guess it's supposed to be today.
Starting point is 00:55:23 General Bob Carpenter's getting mixed messages. Everybody's getting mixed messages. But I'm very thankful that conferences like the ACC played this weekend, and there was a barn burner down in Florida. The Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets, who I said on college game day, was one of my three locks of the week. They were at plus 11.5. They moved to plus 13.5, going down to play Florida State.
Starting point is 00:55:49 I love what's happening down there in Georgia Tech. The head coach of that team joining us right now, ladies and gentlemen, Jeff Collin. Yeah! Atta boy, Jeff! Woo! Coach, I love the wreck everyone and leave a la Roman Reigns, who is an alumni of Georgia Tech.
Starting point is 00:56:07 Hell yeah. Hell yeah. You've got to be feeling great this Monday after a hell of a kickoff to your season down there at Florida State. Yeah, absolutely. The guys played really hard under ridiculously hard circumstances. We had two weather delays. The game started at 3.30, and i don't think we got out
Starting point is 00:56:26 of the locker room singing the fight song until like 10 o'clock at night uh but it was a great experience the guys played really hard really proud of you have a young team so whenever there's two rain delays and you're down early we had a guy in this office who actually picked you guys to win outright as a part of his parlay his parlay was a a 14 parlay. It was at plus 42,000. He had won the first two games of the parlay. Then your game happens. You're down 10. He decides to cash out of the bet as opposed to letting it ride in bet on the Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets, which I said was the wrong decision. How do you keep your team, your young team, kind of engaged throughout all the distractions and a tough start early, coach?
Starting point is 00:57:04 of engaged throughout all the distractions and a tough start early coach yeah well one of the cool things is our whole offseason uh we started club 10 10 uh with a house party with the dj and strobe lights back in january and had a ridiculous workout club 10 10 everything that we've talked about this offseason uh gaining 10 pounds on average across the board as a team finding 10 feet or 10 inches which we lost three games by last year that kept us out of going to a bowl. Everything we talked about is gaining 10 the entire time. And we got to halftime and we were down 10. We were like, fellas, this is the whole offseason.
Starting point is 00:57:37 What we've been working for, let's go. And they did a great job listening to the coaches' adjustments and just going out there and attacking. and just, you know, no quit, no – you know, they didn't stop fighting until it was over. Coach, going down to Florida State and obviously getting a win like that, what does it do for what you can do to market your club, to recruit players? Like how does that – how valuable is it, especially week one on the road, big-time, high-profile opponent?
Starting point is 00:58:04 What does that do for you? Well, I think one of the coolest things is our brand has been elevated the way we market, the way we promote our program, and then have to have a signature win on ABC national television when everybody's been starving for college football. And there we are getting to show out on a national stage and look good doing it. The way the guys play, the way they battle, their energy, their fight, all of those things just aligns with our culture and what we're about. And the second the game is over, I can't talk about specific recruits, but our phones are blowing up from the top kids in the country,
Starting point is 00:58:42 just making sure that they're interested and see what's happening here in Atlanta in the 404 and making sure the brand aligns with the culture, which aligns with recruiting, and all those things are at a really high level right now. Your freshman quarterback has to be an easy person to pitch recruits around. That guy didn't even look rattled at all, and he started feeling a little bit more confident as the game went on. What did you see out of him?
Starting point is 00:59:07 And what makes you think like this guy is going to be our centerpiece here going forward for the next couple of years? Yeah, he's done a great job since he got here in January. We won a late recruiting battle to get him to come in, him and Tucker Gleason. They got here in January, so they got to go through our offseason. All of our culture building workouts. They got to get a sense of they got to go through our offseason, all of our culture-building workouts. They got to get a sense of who we are as an organization. They got six practices in.
Starting point is 00:59:30 Then we had to go away for quarantine and all those things. They stayed engaged, stayed involved, and he just had a really good preseason. My favorite thing, though, about Jeff is even though he played really well, the offensive line protected him. The other line did a great job. Our receivers played ridiculously hard and we've got a great group of running backs that surrounded
Starting point is 00:59:54 him. He knew he didn't have to force things. He could just play, let the game come to him. He did a great job with that. My favorite thing though, he's blowing up on social media after we get the win. He's winning honors and awards and all those things, but we had practice yesterday.
Starting point is 01:00:10 Our process is Sunday practice. He was the first one in the building. He was the first one out to the practice field after we blew the horn to release meetings and those kind of things. That matters more to me than all the other things with his arm talent, his greatism his poise his composure and him understanding the moment
Starting point is 01:00:30 and understanding that he needs to be first he needs to not act entitled he needs to just put the ball down and go to work i thought that was a pretty cool moment last night damn coach do you think the best teams when you look at any level, are run through the quarterback to where the quarterback is far and away? He is the leader of that team, and he kind of sets the tone. Obviously, it all comes down from the head coach and all the assistants, but that quarterback is in charge, and everyone listens to him. It seems like Sims, obviously, is very young, but he's already taken on that leadership role.
Starting point is 01:01:00 How valuable is it? I don't disagree with you, AJ. I remember coming to Centerville, Ohio, when i was a young assistant to georgia today trying to recruit you i did not win that recruiting battle oh bullshit aj feelings right now and answer your question hold on hold on coach i'll wait a second. Hey, did we see him at Plum High School? No. No. He didn't recruit you?
Starting point is 01:01:28 No, I didn't. He wasn't there. Wow. Really? Wow. That's wild. Yeah. The way we've tried to build this thing, AJ, is with the big guys.
Starting point is 01:01:38 We've made a huge emphasis and a huge premium on getting size across the front, both offensively and defensively. We struggled at times running the ball, pass protection last year. We struggled at times stopping the run, getting any kind of pass rush. And we saw both of those things on both sides of the ball, both lines, vast improvement. We were running the ball. We were protecting at a high level, getting pressure on the quarterback,
Starting point is 01:02:04 getting sacks, stopping the ball. We were protecting at a high level, getting pressure on the quarterback, getting sacked, stopping the run. And in our locker room, it is the big guys that set the tone. It is the big guys that set the culture of this program. It's good that Jeff had a lot of success. We've got some other really good skilled players on our roster that do a great job with leadership. But when your team, your organization is run by the big guys, that means a lot.
Starting point is 01:02:28 And then, too, Pat, we got arguably the biggest punter in college football. Hell, yeah. That locker room, too, now. Hey, he had a big punt there at the end of the game. Big fair catch after a penalty. He took you guys back. He kicked one out of bounds. Then he hit a bomb for a fair catch.
Starting point is 01:02:43 Presley is one of my favorite humans in college football at the moment. Yeah, absolutely. He's one out of bounds. Then he hit a bomb for a fair catch. Presley is one of my favorite humans in college football at the moment. Yeah, absolutely. He's a great kid, great personality and just a huge leg. But he's also very unselfish. When we need a directional punt, when we need a situational punt, he does a really good job
Starting point is 01:03:00 with that as well. But when he needs to get a hold of one and boom it, just like he did to seal the victory, he did it. He made two huge tackles on Saturday, too. I don't know if anybody on the broadcast noticed, but we had three kicks blocked. I don't think that was a big storyline. But Presley Hartman was the one that made the tackles,
Starting point is 01:03:22 and he will not shut up to me about it. He needs to play defense. He needs to play linebacker. And I'm like, Press, you need to play D-tackle, bro. Let's talk about those block kicks. Rookie kicker. Okay, that's fine. Let's do it.
Starting point is 01:03:37 Yeah, it wasn't a big storyline, but you showed a lot of confidence in a guy. A big kick needed to be made. Three very unsuccessful attempts, whether you want to call it low or you're lying or whatever it is. As a freshman kicker, national television, ABC, your team is about to upset a team, and you're just not holding up your end of the bargain.
Starting point is 01:03:56 As a mental war that was happening between that kid's ears, for him to come in and hit that one to put the team up when it really mattered, absolute insanity. Also, the trust that you showed in him was awesome. I assume this is going to kind of catapult him into a much better run as opposed to what he's probably thinking after three quarters on Saturday.
Starting point is 01:04:14 He's a big-time kicker. We've seen it ever since he got here. He can drill it. He can hit the long ones. He's very accurate. Obviously, first game, hostile environment, global pandemic. You know, there's a lot of factors that went into all the things that happened. But first and foremost, I want to give credit to Florida State's defensive line.
Starting point is 01:04:33 Oh, yeah. You look around college football or even in the NFL, when you go PAT or field goal block, for a lot of people, those are plays off. So hats off to Florida State's defensive line. They did not take the play off. It's got to be one of the top defensive lines in the country and they did a great job. So give credit where credit's due.
Starting point is 01:04:53 One was low, had some penetration on the other two, but just stuck with the kid. We know what he can be and Ryan Horton, our director of applied science at 11 minutes in the game on the TV copy, you can see Ryan and Jude on the sideline talking. And he said, you know what, Jude?
Starting point is 01:05:11 You've had three blocks, but guess what? That's not going to matter when you drill the game winner here in this fourth quarter. And right there at the eight-minute mark, Jude drilled it. So that just goes back to the love, the trust that we have in this organization. Everybody positively affecting other members of the team, coaches, players, players, coaches, players to players. It's a really cool vibe. Pat, you've seen it in person. It's real. The love that we have in this organization, the hard work that we do, and the love that we have for each other,
Starting point is 01:05:42 you can't fake it. And when you see a team play like they played in the second half in adverse situations uh it's really cool to see now the question is how can we build on that how can we capitalize on this momentum as aj said in recruiting how can we capitalize on it put the ball down and go to work tomorrow um and we'll see what happens you said you have a guy, a director of applied science. What exactly is his role and how involved is he? So, Pat, you're going to have to extend this time. I need another 45 minutes.
Starting point is 01:06:16 We are all about data and science around here in every single way, shape, or form. Every one of our kids wears a catapult system, GPS monitor every single day. We're one of the few college football programs that has every kid monitoring their daily activity 365 days a year. We invest in it. We make adjustments. You'll see this right here.
Starting point is 01:06:39 This is my wedding ring. This is my aura ring. That made big news in the NBA. 50 of our players the atl guys have these rings so we go sleep science we track the data uh catapult practice games we make decisions based on all of those things all of those metrics um even the time that we eat pre-game meal we altered that this year in the midst of a global pandemic a lot of that was due to ryan horton um and what we do we do a no sweat thursdays practice we do the fastest fridays in football practice so we're all in on data and science and making
Starting point is 01:07:18 sure our guys are at their utmost highest abilities when they play the game and then even going into the fourth quarter they're the freshest they're the most conditioned and based on science to get them there wow well obviously everything is happening in much more expedited time period than you would have thought i would assume whenever you're building your program massive staple win against florida state on saturday congratulations coach we appreciate you for joining us hey thanks for having me on guys hey what's the what's the chant down there? Like, go Jackets.
Starting point is 01:07:47 Yeah, go Jackets. There's a lot more, but I can't tell them on the air. Go Jackets, ladies and gentlemen. Head Coach Jeff Collins. Thank you, guys. Woo! That was a big win. That was a big win.
Starting point is 01:07:59 It's building something. It is. I really do believe they are. I said it on College Game Day. I said it months ago and he was right though whenever you get down there and you kind of see the way the team is by because i've always said this aj and i think you've agreed with me and i've it at this point it's ad nauseum but if a team likes each other like i just believe in that team like if a team
Starting point is 01:08:18 likes each other i'm like this team is going to be good that team whenever i went into their building everybody was just wrote like i don't want to take pj flexing but it felt like everybody was rowing that song bitch in the same exact way. Same answers by everybody. Everybody looked happy and enthused and everything like that. I think they're building something special. He's a cool guy. He didn't recruit me for shit, though. That fucked up.
Starting point is 01:08:35 AJ, do you remember that? So if he said he came to my high school, I am almost 100% sure that Georgia Tech never offered me. Oh! I doubt that was his call. I'm sure he wasn't that Georgia Tech never offered me. Oh! I thought that was his call. I'm sure he wasn't pulling the trigger on that one. Hey, by the way, great academic institution. I'm not 100% sure how you were in high school, but I'm not 100%, 1,000% sure you would have been able to get in.
Starting point is 01:08:56 Yeah, I don't know. My test scores might. I don't know. My test scores may have been okay. Oh. The Jacksonville Jaguars, number one in the afc south yeah texans lost colts lost titans haven't played yet the only team with a win jacksonville jaguars the same team that got rid of every single player that was good at football somehow and still beat the philip
Starting point is 01:09:17 rivers led colts yesterday into oblivion and it wasn't even that close in the second half after looking fucking good in the first half garter minchu very good oh yeah very good he'll make some plays baby garter minchu is the new ryan fitzpatrick if you're trying to tank if you're a team that's trying to tank a franchise that's trying to tank the dolphins last year were allegedly trying to in the front office if you look at the moves they were making trying to get rid of every good player they were they didn't account for ryan fitzpatrick playing quarterback and r And Ryan Fitzpatrick is a man who will run his face through a wall if he has to, to get a win, which makes no sense because he's Harvard educated. He's probably the smartest guy in the NFL currently, but he will play like a dumb ass if it means his team will win. That's why he's played
Starting point is 01:09:57 for all 47 teams in the NFL at one point. Now you look at the Jacksonville Jaguars front office, trying to tank it appears, literally cutting every human that's good at football, get them out of here. Joe Dirt was starting for their defense. He got a pick against Phillip Rivers in the fourth quarter that kind of put the Colts to sleep. It made no sense. Gardner Minshew, though, just like Ryan Fitzpatrick, is going
Starting point is 01:10:18 to win games for you. Yesterday, he went 19 of 20 or something like that. He was scrambling, making good decisions, and his leadership style is one that I would love. He looks like he is having a great time all the time. Doug Marone, a coach who quit his job at the Bills and has kind of bounced around, has been very average with the Jaguars
Starting point is 01:10:34 since making the AFC Championship four years ago. They all of a sudden have a team that nobody knows who's on the team. I'm not sure they're spending any money at all this year, which makes no sense. And they looked really good at the football against a Colts team that was supposed to be the most complete team supposed to have a great defense supposed to have a great offense special teams was good hot rod missed one a lot of people missed yesterday first game get the jitters out preseason
Starting point is 01:10:56 kind of do that let's judge them next week not this week even though a lot of teams probably pissed about their kickers missing let's save it for another week because you know that's something you kind of got to get it out of you get it out of you a little bit i would assume but boy that jaguars team looked very good nowhere near would nowhere near be able to keep up with the good teams in the nfl right which is why it's so frustrating to be a colts fan because you watch that game you're like what would the chiefs do against this team oh probably buzzsaw what would the Chiefs do against this team? Oh, probably buzzsaw. What would the Baltimore Ravens do against this team? Oh, probably win by 40. What would the Patriots do with Cam Newton?
Starting point is 01:11:30 Oh, they probably wouldn't let Gardner have the ball for more than 10 minutes because what Cam Newton would be able to do. Then you look at the Colts. You're like, what did the Colts do? Oh, they had to lead early. Then they threw a pick. Then they go ahead and just lose the whole fucking game after throwing another pick and another pick,
Starting point is 01:11:43 and their defense was just getting run through. That is why, as a Colts fan, it was so upsetting because you thought about what other teams will be able to do to the Jaguars, which we might be wrong, but this is overreaction Monday. I'm not sure the Jaguars are going to win a lot of games, and maybe the Colts did that on purpose because they didn't want them to get the number one overall pick because they didn't want to lose to Trevor Lawrence for the next 10 years.
Starting point is 01:12:01 Maybe this is big brain football the Colts are doing as opposed to just playing checkers. They're playing chess with this whole thing. Colts might not be the only team this year to not punt against the Jaguars, but they're probably going to be the only team to lose to the Jaguars after not punting the entire time. They didn't punt one time.
Starting point is 01:12:15 And I've always said, you've got to punt to win. You've got to punt to win. That's just the way it goes. Shout out to us, though. Friday we called that the Jags and the Washington football team were going to be leading the division after this week. Yeah, we did. These are things that don't get checked enough,
Starting point is 01:12:30 but whenever we say things like go back and go ahead. Kind of shakes out that way a lot. Go ahead and fact check. Diggs, you have some updates here. Yeah, a couple updates. Austin Siebert, who missed an extra point in a field goal in Cleveland on Sunday, they're bringing in Cody Parkey. He's gone.
Starting point is 01:12:47 Oh, geez. By the way, that's the kicking life right there. Hey, you miss some kicks, you move on to the next place. The good thing for Austin Siebert is a lot of kickers have been missing kicks and looking like bad kickers, and he's on a rookie contract still, so he's worth less than the veteran men is. I assume he'll find a home because he was good last year towards the end of the year just a rough rough start for the cleveland browns in a
Starting point is 01:13:09 game by the way against a team that looked unbelievable in every point mattered he the internet's trying to expose austin siebert for not focusing i just wanted to make some edits i mean he dyed his hair he had a mullet at one point in cleveland this is all right i'm gonna talk about it okay everybody assumed that i was just by the way we need check marks on all these everybody assumes that me as a punter because now i talk literally for three hours a day live i'm very active on the twitter very active on the instagram and youtube everybody automatically assumed that i was always like this. And I would like to say, en contraire, mon frere.
Starting point is 01:13:48 When I came into the NFL, I just shut the fuck up, okay? I don't know why I'm here. They drafted me to do something that I'm not great at, which was punting. I didn't even really know how to do the NFL style of punting. And the people around me
Starting point is 01:13:58 that I was on that team, I just felt lucky to be here. And I'm like, you know what I'm gonna do? I am just gonna shut up for the first time in my life. I'll be friendly with people in the locker room but if nobody even knows that i exist outside of this locker room i'm 100 cool with it i used to go out i'd buy shots for everybody at the bar in indianapolis nobody even knew i existed they thought i was just some frat kid with uh my
Starting point is 01:14:18 parents credit card that was 100 cool with me to be honest when i got arrested uh for an alleged event a lot of i punted in super bowl nobody even knew i was there when I got arrested uh for an alleged event a lot of I punted in Super Bowl nobody even knew I was there when I got arrested people learned that I was on the team from that moment everybody still thought Hunter Smith Hunter the punter who was on the Colts for like nine years or something like that they still thought he was the punter because when you're playing with Peyton the punter is not a position that is a desirable one which by the way cool with me they're paying me too much money to be doing what I'm doing right now. I am not going to mess this up off the field. So I didn't start being active on the Twitter. I didn't start doing anything off the field until I was good at my job until I
Starting point is 01:14:56 realized, okay, I am good at my job. I'm just going to shut up. And that was something that I think a lot of people could potentially learn from there. I think a lot of people have seen me, and this is me tooting my own horn, I guess, and a lot of people have done it, but my brand and build my brand and be active on Twitter and be active on social media. But I was not like this whenever I was not great at what I did. Because I very much understand, especially at a position like kicker or punter or any position, it could be Juju, who's a good wide receiver. As soon as you make one mistake or as soon as you are bad, if you're loud and vocal and doing a lot of other things, all you're doing is giving a lot of people ammo just to bury you.
Starting point is 01:15:33 That's all you're doing. So there was a couple games where I was bad, I guess, whenever I was loud and I heard it from those people like, oh, if he didn't tweet, he'd potentially be this or this. I didn't start really opening up and being loud. And so I knew that those bad games were not going to happen very much. Like when I walked on the field, I knew what I was going to do. I was going to be good.
Starting point is 01:15:53 And there wasn't a damn thing anybody could say about it. There was this one time I did a four city, 10,000 ticket. I rented out the theater standup comedy tour right before one season. And I knew that if I didn't have the best season I've ever had, that that was going to get mentioned to me, not only by media and by people on the internet, but also the front office that was particularly in charge there did not love my style of comedy. They didn't buy any tickets for my standup show. So I knew that if I wasn't my best, I probably going to get cut and that's something that i think whenever you're like building a brand or trying to build your uh anything especially in the modern world where
Starting point is 01:16:32 everybody is trying to do that like yeah you got to be fucking good because if you're not all you're doing is giving people reasons to hate you cut you fire you and never give you an opportunity again and i think that goes completely across the entire board for everybody at every position. But what do I know? I don't know. I'm not 100% sure. I just watch people do things. And then I watch people dump on them whenever they don't perform to whatever their expected level is. And I don't think it's fair, by the way. I think people should be able to live their life and do whatever the hell you want. And you can't just kick balls for 24 hours a day. But if you're going to become a personality at a position and you're going to start like, you know,
Starting point is 01:17:08 having a good time off the field, everything's great whenever it's going well. But as soon as you start doing a little bit bad, you have to know and understand that people are going to dump on you. That is just what's going to happen. People are going to absolutely don't. People are absolutely going to come down on top of you,
Starting point is 01:17:25 and you're giving people reasons and excuses to either hate you or fire you. And now the internet's trying to expose Austin Siebert for trying to do that this offseason, where he's worried about his Twitter account and his mallet more than he is about making kicks. And it's like, I understand what you're saying, because he took four minutes out of his life when he was probably laying in his bed or a nice tub trying to get better, trying to do something. But that's just the way it is. Optically's the way it goes and i very much understood that
Starting point is 01:17:48 and i i think i even had a conversation with peyton early that's probably you know it's probably on his private plane flying somewhere hell yeah no big deal but i talked to him because he had like seven commercials at the time you know and i was like how did you get to just like the commercials like how how do you become the face of every single company on earth? And he was like, well, I don't really worry about that, Pat. I just worry about being good at my job. And then everything else kind of follows. And he said, that's literally how I view everything. At that point, I was like, okay, that's probably the way to do it. That is probably. So I am just going to go ahead. I'm going to make everybody happy around me. And I'm going to try to be as good at my job as I possibly can. And then hopefully everything else
Starting point is 01:18:24 will come. And by the way, it actually does like that. I think you should get great at something before you start telling everybody that you're doing something. And I think that is, is something a little less than I think a lot of people could potentially learn. Diggs, a different subject. Not you, Diggs. Like, no, no, no. I said that to you to kind of tell because you, I mean, you've been very loud about a lot of things.
Starting point is 01:18:45 Yeah, true. You actually host a gambling show called Hammer Don, which is a great podcast. Great podcast. Incredible. My favorite gambling podcast hosted by you, Diggs, Hammer Don. And this weekend on Saturday, you did something. No, no, no. This weekend on Saturday, you did something that a lot of people started shitting on you for.
Starting point is 01:19:04 Saturday, you did something that a lot of people started shitting on you for, but you knew once you got into the hosting of a gambling show world that any time you make a gambling mistake, people are going to crush you for it. And it just so happened to happen Saturday when you lost out on thousands of dollars because you decided to cash out of a $20 parlay that was at plus 42,000 odds. And it hit, by the way, But you cashed out of it early. And you knew the world was going to shit on you because you have the greatest podcast about gambling right now, Hammered Down.
Starting point is 01:19:30 Yeah, not enough people talking about the 4-0 that had to happen to get there. But the situation was, won the first two games. Yeah, but who cares? Right. Who cares if you... I do. No, I mean, that's a good way to frame it.
Starting point is 01:19:43 Yeah, you're a first place in the race for a little bit. You can't be a gambling show host and go 0-4. Okay, true. I mean, you were there. You have the sizzle, but you just forgot to stay. Need to stay. Because you're supposed to get broken off on that thing. You know me.
Starting point is 01:19:55 I'm a big sizzle, no steak guy. So Diggs took four bets that were all underdogs to win outright on College Saturday. One of them was Georgia Tech over Florida State. That game was delayed twice. Florida State was up early, 10-0. Georgia Tech looked terrible at football. Florida State looked good. So Diggs opted because two other games of his four already hit.
Starting point is 01:20:15 So he had two underdogs hit. He didn't want Florida State, Georgia Tech to potentially ruin his plus 42,000 parlay. So he cashed out and he turned his $20 bet into a $200. All right. That's a 10X return on your investment, baby. But since Tony cashed out early whenever Florida State was up 10-0 on Georgia Tech, what he missed out on was Georgia Tech's massive comeback victory and then Kansas losing late night and hitting for $8,300 or something like that.
Starting point is 01:20:48 So Diggs won $200. Yeah. But in turn lost out on over $8,000 because he valued that $20 parlay so damn much. You know me. You know me. I'm a math guy. Yeah. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:21:04 I was holding out it was 10 nothing i'm like it's 10 nothing i'm gonna stick with this and then georgia tech threw an interception i checked the odds florida state 95 chance to win that game i was like well it's five percent chance they win this game i'm gonna take the cash out 200 i need that 200 for my bank roll for nfl tomorrow smart because that's what my college is i'm funding the bankroll for tomorrow and as soon as i made that bet as soon as i cashed out i got that feeling in my college is. I'm funding the bankroll for tomorrow. And as soon as I made that bet, as soon as I cashed out, I got that feeling in my stomach when your girlfriend or wife or whatever tells you that they're late on their period,
Starting point is 01:21:30 and I knew exactly what was going to happen. And then when Coastal Carolina went up 21-0, I just decided to put the bottle to my head and pull that trigger. Yeah, you was chugged. Yeah. Yeah, smart. I was embarrassed for you. I think we all were.
Starting point is 01:21:42 Yeah, it was tough to swallow. But enough people aren't talking about you going 4-0. We have some updates here. Bruce Arians. Oh, yeah. Talking about Tom Brady. He said he looked like Tom Brady in practice all the time. So it's kind of unusual to see that in a ballgame
Starting point is 01:21:54 because they didn't do things that we didn't get ready for. Everything they did, we thought we were ready for. So that's Bruce Arians saying everything that we prepared for, by the way. This is the classic didn't execute. This is the classic coach speak of, oh, we had way. This is the classic didn't execute. This is the classic coach speak of, we had it all down, we just didn't execute. So that is Bruce Arians saying,
Starting point is 01:22:12 oh, a lot of people are going to think that maybe the Saints confused us and we weren't prepared for everything. That was not the case. We were ready for everything. Tom Brady just didn't look like he looked in practice all week. And we'll change that. He probably said, and we'll change that. We'll move forward here.
Starting point is 01:22:23 But boy, that's tough. Are Tom and Bruce on the outs already is the tompa bay q gronk and nears uh newlywed phase already over because of one loss in new orleans are these two guys that have been around the nfl for a long time won a lot and understand it might take a little bit for us to get on the same page when live bullets are flying baby but don't worry ask us how we're doing week 10, week 11, week 12. Thank you so much for listening. We'll be back manana with another great episode. And by the way, guess who's joining us tomorrow? Aaron fucking Rogers.
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