The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 251 - THE BIG TEN IS BACK. General Bob Carpenter, Ike Taylor, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: September 16, 2020

On today's show, Pat and the boys break down the big news that the Big Ten is officially back and in doing so bring in the General of the Big Ten Army, former Ohio State All-American, 2006 1st round draft pick of the Dallas Cowboys, and friend of the program, General Bob Carpenter. Pat and Bob chat about the Big Ten coming back from the dead, whether players who declared for the draft will be able to come back to school and play, why he doesn't want any of the credit, and what he's going to do as a victory lap (6:01-19:49). Next, 2x Super Bowl Champion, 12 year NFL veteran, one of the most electric human beings on the planet and friend of the show, Ike Taylor. Pat and Ike chat about his thoughts on the Steelers after their Monday night victory over the Giants, his thoughts on the defense, Big Ben's play, how defenses today are going to stop the Chiefs, and much more (19:52-35:40). Last is another installment of McAfee & Hawk Sports Talk where AJ and Pat discuss their weirdest pregame eating rituals, what it takes to become an NFL Player of the Week, Vic Fangio walking back his statement about his timeout usage on Monday night, they take some listener calls, chat about Floyd Mayweather and Logan Paul potentially boxing each other, and everything else going on around the NFL (35:42-1:21:09). Don't forget to subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow, and listen to the show every day from Noon-3 EST on Mad Dog Radio SiriusXM Channel 82. We appreciate you all for listening. Come and laugh with us, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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from the players, their families, their coaches, and the Big Ten cult-like fans. I could talk about how this is another example of the ruling class being completely out of touch with those who they are supposed to be serving. This is a tale as old as time. I could say that. I could say you can't learn self-awareness and feel for situations in a classroom or from a book. And there's no PhD in common sense. But that is not the way this situation should be talked about. This Big Ten story should be talked about in a positive fashion

because for the first time in what feels like forever, a group of humans who were put into a position of power set their incredibly paramount, massive, large egos aside and adjusted their response due to the change in circumstance. For far too long, those in power have refused to do such a thing, even when it's painfully obvious painfully obvious that their decision is not necessarily the best one they will sit on it until death because conviction is one of the best traits of a leader can have

the ability to make the tough decisions that might be unliked by the masses but it was a decision that had to be made to benefit the greater good is always the talking point given to those in charge when a very disliked decision is made now kevin warren in his first year as the big 10 commissioner and the 11 other presidents that voted against the football season in the fall have listened to the masses and the world and probably the money and changed course this should be commended and accepted and shown to the masses and the world and probably the money and changed course this should be commended and accepted and shown to the next generation as a completely great way to lead the ability to adapt and not let your ego or pride get in the way of making something happen that

everybody else seems to be able to make And welcome back, college football in a much more complete fashion. All the boys are here. At-Tone Diggs is here. At-Boston Connor is here. Ty Schmidt is here. Jason's here. Mr. Mansouri. Evan Foxy.

Nick. Gumpy Billy. Zito's over here on the casting couch with a poll that says what? Who should get the most credit for the big 10 returning is it kevin warren general bob carpenter sir yacht and the picketing parents that went to chicago and picketed outside of the big 10 offices whenever this decision was made but one of those options on that poll is joining us right now ladies and gentlemen out of columbus ohio a man who is a general for the big 10 army which consisted of players players families coaches some athletic directors three

presidents which were iowa nebraska and the ohio state to hopefully get this ruling overturned general bobby carpenter uh bob how's it going it's going good patrick thanks for having me on man i uh appreciate the support i want to show you the boys who are at attention here giving a full salute to their general general bob carpenter we've been watching you on the internet uh go go very loud Be very loud for the last 36 days. You were at one point redlining statements that were being released by the commissioner of the Big Ten, pointing out hypocrisies and things that didn't make any sense. Then you were giving out emails and phone numbers to presidents at universities

for people to reach out to them and tell them what's going on. You were actually teaming up with Michigan fans at one point because Michigan fans had to be heard because the Michigan president had a massive pull in this whole thing. You have been a driving force behind the comeback. I don't think you've been saying that it's going to come back, it's going to come back, it's going to come back. But I feel like on the Internet streets, General Bob Carpenter,

who was obviously an All-American, I believe, at Ohio State, and was drafted to the Dallas Cowboys, a great football player. But on the internet, you've been leading a charge of people to let their voices be heard here in the Big Ten. And here we are, Wednesday, September 16th, and Big Ten football is no longer postponed to the spring. This has to be a victory lap morning for General Bob Carpenter. You know, I don't want to call it a victory lap morning, Pat.

I'm really excited. I'm happy that it happened. It don't want to call it a victory lap morning, Pat. I'm really excited. I'm happy that it happened. It feels really good. But it's not about me, man. Like, this was always about the players. It was about their opportunity to get out there. You know, playing at West Virginia, man, you just want to play football. The coaches want to coach football.

The parents want to watch their kids play football. And so all that stuff that happened, like, yeah, it's great. It feels good. But, dude, it's not for me. I love that stuff, man. It's great. It's entertaining. But the victory wasn't for me.

It was for the players. I'm just so happy for those guys to be able to finally have some clarity and have a start date to which they'll be able to start preparing and training and having a shot to go play for something this fall. I'll tell you what. Humility is a great sign of leadership there, General. You saying it's not about you, it's about the players. And not only the players, by the way, the players' families, the coaches, the athletic directors, the fans.

I mean, it was a big army you were leading of people that were happy. Now, they came out this morning, General Bob, and said that they would not be accepting, which I find awesome, just to make this statement. We will not accept the test from the president, okay, because we don't want politics to come in, but we'll get tests from somebody else. Does it matter where they get the test from just as long as they get the test and make this whole thing happen? I think that should be the entire message, but I like that they had to come out and officially say, we ain't taking any tests from the president, by the way, but we're getting tests from somewhere else. Was that the big hurdle they had to come out and officially say, we ain't taking any tests from the president, by the way, but we're getting tests from somewhere else.

Was that the big hurdle they had to get over was the testing efficiency? And is that ultimately what pushed us over the goal line? Oh, touchdown. I like that. Thank you. I'll say this, man. This wasn't meant to be political in any way. The only thing that we're caring about here, right there, USA,

General Bob. Excited for the Big Ten to be back. Man, like, I didn't care if these tests would come from President Obama, President Trump, FDR, Abraham Lincoln. I mean, if Joseph Stalin had tests, Pat, I would have taken them for the conference to be able to

have those kids play without the players the entire time. And that's what I'm hoping that everybody understands. And these guys are getting back out there. They're getting a shot to do their thing. And it was about finding the test. So the fact that the presidents came out and said, we don't appreciate the criticism. It's not going to help. Pat, everybody that played sports everyone's in

the public eye they always say they don't read the papers and by saying you don't read the papers that basically means that you watch the media you read the papers you know all of what's going on and you're saying that trying to brush off everything as if you don't it doesn't matter okay bob let's say you and your army are quiet let's say sir yacht isn't breaking news every other day about it coming back let's say that the your army are quiet. Let's say Sir Yacht isn't breaking news every other day about it coming back. Let's say that the parents aren't picketing. And everybody just reacts how I think they thought everybody was going to act. Because remember, it has come out in a Sports Illustrated article

that the Big Ten presidents thought that they were going to be heralded as heroes because they're looking out for safety as opposed to money. And instead, the complete opposite happened. And I think they were expecting everybody just to hear the decision made. They were expecting the ACC the next day to make the same decision. And everybody's going to be like, you know what? Hey, they're the presidents. They know what they're talking about.

Let's just go ahead and go. They expected that without the massive pushback. And if you weren't in, like, we live in Indianapolis and we have a lot of friends in the area. So I got a chance to watch the amount of pushback, the picket, everything that potentially. in the area so i got a chance to watch the amount of pushback the picket everything that potentially if you think none of that happened without your leadership of the army on the internet without the picketing without the calls about the you think there's any chance we're in this position now or do you think they would have kept up with the medicals to see if they could uh no stone left unturned to get the season back in this thing or do you think it's a large pr potential problem as

well for them um you know when i look at, I think that they may have paid attention to it. Listen, nobody likes to get criticized. Pat, you and I played in the NFL, man. You're having some bad games. People criticize you. You develop thicker skin. These presidents had largely never been criticized probably in their entire lives. They're academics.

People pat them on the back. They tell them how great they're doing, how these great little papers they write, all the memorandums, all these wonderful things that they do. And finally, they saw a little bit of pushback. And some of it came with parents. Some of it came with media people. Some of it was players. Some of it was coaches. I don't think we are where we are today without the groundswell and them misreading the situation. And the fact that your school, Pat, West Virginia, and our guy Gordon Gee, who was the former president of Ohio State, they helped keep the Big 12 alive because he was such an advocate. Notre Dame helped keep the ACC alive because they were such a big advocate to get it going. So between those two schools saving two other conferences, the SEC was always going to go.

And those three schools said, we're not going, we're not folding. And now the Big Ten was left on an island with their buddies, the Pac-12, and no one was really caring about what happened on the West Coast. It does seem like it's been pretty quiet out of the Pac-12.

I have seen some players, both alumni and current, who have been tweeting like, hey, Pac-12, now everybody else is doing it. Can we get going? And there just hasn't really been that groundswell. So I would like to say that the Big Ten pushback from whoever was the only reason this happened because the Pac-12 would have the same access

to the test that the Big Ten would have. Now, granted, California and Oregon are currently dealing with some things, but also the rules they have. I'm not sure they can have stadiums at all filled or campuses open, so it might be a little bit different than Big Ten. But boy, that pushback was loud. And that point that you had about presidents never getting critiqued for anything is hilarious. They do a lot of critiquing themselves.

You can't really learn that type of stuff whenever you're, what, valedictorian and the smartest person ever. And every answer you give, everybody's like, well, I'm going with what that person says. I have a friend that I do. I don't know what that person says. I'm going. Well, Pat, I'm going with what that person says. I have a friend and I do that. Well, if that person says I'm going, I can't. Well, Pat, think about this. You think those presidents have ever been in a Monday morning call-out meeting?

I mean, that is arguably the most uncomfortable setting in the entire world. No one wants to be in there. You crawl in that thing and want to hide under your desk sometimes as the coaches sit there and you know the play is coming and you know how bad it's going to be. And so you there and you know the play is coming and you know how bad it's going to be and so you hide and you do the very best you can and you sit there and get scathed and you walk out of it a better person oh and by the way a laser pointer is circling you just so they know like hey this is who we are talking about this is the person we are talking

about and then they'll even turn and the guy second row from the back right there is who we're talking about who by the way only watched an hour and a half of film last week we have it all on film this is what this person knew there's a lot of that and i have to and i said this in the open i think it's a great display of leadership to be able to adjust your answer set your ego aside set your pride aside and be like okay we're in a new circumstance let's get back to it speaking of getting back to it, they released a date. October 24th, I believe, is whenever they're getting back into it, the Big Ten. They're going to run eight straight weeks until the Big Ten championship.

So hopefully one of their teams could get into the college football playoff or multiple teams or whatever. They can compete in that. Why is October 24th the date? Could they not move that up a little bit? Or were they always set on giving a full month in a week here to get back into it? I feel like three weeks got a lot of teams have been practicing they could have got back earlier why did they delay it to october 24th

from what you've been hearing well the question is pat why did they delay in making the decision until now if they make the decision last week it's not near the issue and so you have the time to ramp up and be able to play on the 17th. That gives you that weak buffer. I don't understand why they would be trying to jam all this together so quickly and not give yourself any leeway. It's almost as if they kind of don't want it to succeed,

which almost wouldn't be a surprise to me as well. Exactly. I know. I know. But, you know, they've drugged this thing out and this is what they're left with. You have to sprint this thing through now for the next eight weeks. We'll see how it works. Hopefully it does.

They've got plenty of time to ramp up. And I hope everything goes smoothly for the players' sake. Do you guys think, you talked about getting new facts and then readjusting your opinion and stuff like that, that the first-round talents that already opted out way back when the Big Ten postponed their season, Rondell Moore, Micah Parsons, Sean Wade, they'll rethink and maybe potentially come back and play this season?

I could see that happening. It just depends. What are you really playing for? At Purdue, I don't know if you're going to have a chance to really play for a national championship. Micah Parsons at Penn State, they're a really good team. And so I guess it comes down to the fact that the guy take any cash. You know, if they took cash from an agent, they did different things.

Now they're going to be eliminated from that opportunity unless they want to pay it back, which they probably don't have the money to do it anyway. And so those guys will be out. I think the two guys, Sean Wade and Wyatt Davis from Ohio State, they could come back if they want to. That will remain to be seen how they feel about it. Bateman up in Minnesota, should he choose to come back? Minnesota, I think, is a viable Big Ten championship team.

Can they beat Ohio State? I don't know. But that's an opportunity there. I see some, but I don't think all these guys are coming back. I think some have been gone for too long, and they're just probably ready to move on. You know, it's been very interesting watching that first weekend of college football because this year doesn't count so you got like freshmen's coming into the game and

playing and the coaches are like well normally you can only play them in four games so they can so redshirt but this year if we're up like west virginia had this freshman quarterback play and they're like yeah it doesn't matter he'll be able to be a freshman next year anyway so i wonder if they're going to keep that maintain that now i mean it's there's a lot be figured out, and they only have eight weeks to do an eight-week schedule, which is very aggressive to think about. Connor, what do you got? General, now that you've won the war in the middle of the country, will you turn your sights west and try and help the Pac-12 get back?

And thank you for your service. Oh, goodness. I would love to help the Pac-12. My problem is I know a lot of coaches. I know a lot of administrators and people within the Big Ten. I feel like that's probably where my footprint is. A lot of it's self-awareness. Know what you're good at. Know what you're not.

Help those guys a little bit. I don't think I would be an advocate out there. If there's someone from the Pac-12 that wants me to help them, I would do all I could to help assist and drive the Army out there, but my Army's more regionally based, and I think the secret

to success, fight a one-front war. Know what you're good at, stay there, and stay within your own guardrails. You'll do some consulting in the war world, though, if you have to. If you need to get called in, you'll do some consulting. Captain Sanchez? That's what I got. Captain Sanchez and General Bob

Carpenter fighting against a legisl Carpenter. Oh, man. Fighting against a legislator over there. Why can't you stop him? Oh, my God. I don't know if anybody else cares, though. What's going on? No, yeah. I was just curious if you, General, if you had heard anything in regards to, like, if

players had signed with agents, if they will be able to make the decision now that they can come back and play. You know, old buddy Michael Turk, the punter last year, I think he left early. don't know if his name is michael turk or he was a punter for arizona state last year decided to leave early to go to the draft went to the combine and everything he did not get drafted they allowed him to go back to college so i wonder if he signed with an agent or if he took any money or if he was just like i'm gonna go see this out and he was like the first one that they let back and basketball you can do that all the time oh i'm going to go see this out. And he was like the first one that they let back. And basketball, you can do that all the time. Oh, I'm going, I'm leaving. I didn't get drafted. Shit, I'm coming back.

I'm coming back. That happens all the time. In football, they never let that happen. I wonder if they're loosening that up now, especially for those guys that are, you know, premier players. I wonder if they're loosening that rule up at all. I would think they would, Pat. I mean, as long as you didn't take money. Like, that's the big thing. It's signing with an agent. What does

that do? Not a whole lot. It's the fact that. It's signing with an agent. What does that do? Not a whole lot. It's the fact that you sign with the agent, and then those guys usually give you some cash to help out with the draft process. They have training or different things like that. Those are usually the bigger issues. So as long as nobody took any impermissible benefits, I think everybody would be okay,

and the NCAA would make an exemption based upon how poorly this was handled. You couldn't give these guys any guidance because no one knew anything. Yeah, there was a lot of miscommunication, no communication. There was a lot of confusion. I mean, but you led your army through tough, tough waters. And here we are on the other side, screaming victory as if we're, what's his face? Drama from Antoine.

Yeah, congratulations, Johnny Drama, General Bob Carpenter. Appreciate you, Bob. Thanks, Patrick, man. Yeah. Congratulations, Johnny drama, general Bob Carpenter. Thanks Patrick, man. Anytime you got it. Now speaking of feeling great, I would assume there's some people wearing bird dogs right now down in our next guest garage, who was having workouts during the quarantine pandemic,

trying to make his community a healthier one, a more fit one, a two time, two time Superbowl champion, ladies and gentlemen, the Ike Taylor. pandemic trying to make his community a healthier one a more fit one a two-time two-time super bowl champion ladies and gentlemen the ike taylor yeah yeah what's going on man hey feedback what's going on i need a pair of bird dogs bro hey if you do need a pair of these bird dogs they are the bird dogs will take care of everything you got going on down there. What are you doing right now?

I see you're in your car. Are you traveling? Are you about to put some people through a workout? What's going on in Ike Taylor's life? Nah, you know, with the workout, we get that around 9, 30, 10 o'clock every morning. So now, I came to the mall, went to Catholic Grill, got me some Austin Hope. That's a good red wine if you want to talk about advertisement. So, yeah, man man just come on down whenever you back down or land i saw you was down for the wrestling which i enjoyed thank you but whenever you back down man we'll get a we'll get a glass

of these red grapes okay we will come through for some red grapes i'm not normally a wine guy but if you're drinking it i'll drink it as well i will take it down i believe there is something you could put on the top of a bottle as well and drink that thing as if it's a beer bong. It's called Coravin. Well, it's called Coravin. So for the wine, it's called Coravin. And what you do, you stick it at the top of the tube, you put it in a tube, and you stick it at the top of the cork in the wine, and it preserves your wine. And you only do that with good wine. So it preserves your wine between 10 and 15 days. What are you a wine? You're a wino, huh? That's what it sounds like. It sounds like you're like a wino. I mean, it's 1.33 right now, and you're making trips just for red wine.

I mean, you're a wine guy. Well, you know, if you're not on the golf course where they do business deals, you've got to go to like Capital Grill, Ocean Prime, and all these, Del Frisco's, Morton's. You've got to go to all these places where you want to meet up and do business. Well, hey, business is good right now for the Pittsburgh Steelers. I assume you got a chance to watch that. Big Ben Roethlisberger is back.

You were a teammate of his for a little bit there whenever he was younger. How do you feel about Ben getting back into the game and how the Steelers look? People are saying that defense potentially better than the defense of the past. Yeah, I mean, it sounds good, but we all know what time it was. I mean, they're a pretty good defense, but mean, it sounds good, but we all know what time it was. I mean, they're a pretty good defense, but to be a good defense, you got to be consistent. So they're going on their second year of trying to be consistent. Last year, they balled out.

This year, it's a good start. They left off on what they did last year, and they was having a heck of a season, you know, on the defensive side. So they did a heck of a job on Monday. You know, they got the ball in the red zone, and it's like the old defensive coordinator, Coach DeBoer, always say, defend every blade of grass. Like, we're not in control on where we at in the field, but we can control teams not scoring.

So they gave up three instead of seven when it came down to their red zone. So the Pittsburgh defense, don't forget, man, I think they have the most first-rounders, whether it's through draft or free agency. They have the most first-rounders on their defense than any other team. They definitely playing like first-rounders. What do you think about Ben? What was your thoughts on Ben Roethlisberger?

I think early he looked a little rusty or whatever, and then they kind of opened that thing up with the two-minute drill going into the second half. I mean, seven said it best. Seven was i i don't i don't have to play football but the young guys i got at the wide receiver position this nice old line i have the young guys i got in the backfield the tight ends we picked up doing for agency man i feel i feel good about my situation so he's one of the elder guys of that drew brees time uh tom brady realm that has a young core around him so he likes what he sees and he had time due to the fact he was injured last year

he had time to reflect bill off season or off the field relationships and just kind of put paint a picture in his head how he would do things with the young guys and you you can kind of see it starting to take his course you know even with chase claypool the young uh not rookie yeah rookie yeah rookie guy from uh notre dame you know he tiptoed on the sideline with that catch that's that's chemistry juju i think juju is where he needs to be juju is in the slot uh dionce johnson he's very explosive he's a he's a young mixture between Antonio Brown and Emmanuel Sanders. So if he just gains weight, he's going to be even better. But at the same time, Seven just had to knock off the rust.

You saw that, P-Mac. Seven, I thought, was nervous. And I thought that's natural to be nervous because you took a year off and you got to get into the flow. But that second half, man, Seven was doing seven things. I enjoyed listening to his post game press conference because he had a lot of people to thank first and foremost his lord and savior jesus christ jesus christ came down in the second quarter into the third quarter and the

fourth quarter for his man there but he also your face he's laughing so hard he then said he then read off the the young wide receiver group that he likes, and then he said, my offensive line, they love me and I love them. It's like, that is a massive deal, though, because I would assume that sometimes Ben wasn't always the most luck. I mean, there's stories that have leaked out that Ben has gotten into it with teammates and everything like that. I think he's taking a real, like, initiative on having that team come together.

And I think this could be a great swan song here for these last couple years for ben roethlisberger with this group i don't think seven really got into it um i think more of it is just a misunderstanding like at one point in time seven seven thought i didn't like him and i'm i'm like seven there's no reason for me not to like you. Like, bro, you just won me the Super Bowl. So why would I dislike you? So it's just a miscommunication, I think. Seven has more confidence in himself than a lot of people do. And he's not being cocky. He's not being arrogant.

That's just Seven. Like I said earlier before, man, if you want to play Seven at ping pong, he's going to smoke you. If you want to play Seven in a game of horse, he's going to smoke you. If you want to play seven in golf, he's going to smoke you. Seven and I were shuffleboard champions, partners, champions in that locker room. So seven, whatever seven wants to do, he's just good at. And that's not a lot of people can't say that. Like a lot of people can't say I can smoke you in baseball and do it.

Like usually quarterbacks, they're good at two things from what I see right now. They're good at golf, and they're good at playing quarterback in the NFL. Seven can pretty much do it all. You know, he was an All-American, I think, in three sports in the state of Ohio. So, I think it's just much more of a misunderstanding from a lot of people with Seven. I didn't know that because his big lumbering ass, I did not expect but what style of ping pong player is he do you know is he a power guy defensive guys use spins it's it's whatever you want him to be if you want if you want to go power seven going power if you want to finesse it seven can finesse it so it's like damn you got

all these twos in the toolbox and all I got is a hammer. Like, obviously you guys had seven on the Super Bowl runs, but you always had a running back. You always had Jerome or Willie Parker. Mendenhall was, was good back in the day. How big is it?

Like when, when Connor goes out that you have Benny Snell who comes in and then rushes for the yard, especially like after that 19 play drive, the defense gave up last year, they would have been three and out in the defense would have right. Been right back on the field. But this offense took them all the way down the yard, especially like after that 19 play drive the defense gave up. Last year, they would have been three and out, and the defense would have been right back on the field, but this offense took them all the way down the field, gave the Ds some time to rest. How big is that?

So now you see why they kept five running backs, and that's unusual for the Pittsburgh team, which is any team to keep five running backs. So you wind up drafting a young running back from Maryland, you wind up keeping four more other running backs, including James Conner. So they understand that backfield so far has to get in the group,

and it's going to be running back by committee. Now, Coach Thomas said he is going to leave the light on for James Conner, so he has that green light if he wants to play or not to start. But I think for the most part, it will be running back by committee. So this is the first time I've seen Pittsburgh keep five running backs. Benny Snell runs hard. He's an angry runner. No, I've seen Benny at Kentucky.

That's exactly how he ran at Kentucky. Now he just has to get a little bit smarter in the league because you do want to preserve yourself as a player and as a running back. All right, as an esteemed member of one of the greatest defense in the history of the nfl in the secondary um as a guy who i think you're a wider i forget your entire recruiting story in your college story but it's an electric when you're playing running back i was running back then i was a quarterback yeah and you're playing like flag football or something that's how it all started right yeah so it was it was intramural my first

two years because i was knucklehead and i didn't have the grades then my junior then my junior i walked on as a running back wind up balling as a running back but then these coaches these coaches like i was chris johnson before chris johnson like i was skinny as hell like i was 175 i was 6'2 175 feet way bigger than his legs like i was skinny as hell p PMAG I average like 4.5 4.8 yards of carry so it was all you said it was always second to short when you put me in the game It's taking a three second of when you put I can the game and running back But I'm so glad somebody made some sense and knocking it to a Establishment like I care probably gonna sit well that

At corner because you're very aggressive. That story took on itself. They sometimes say that whenever you're a corner, it's because you don't have good hands, but we will not dive into that. We will not dive into that with you. You do not deserve that. It's all good, man. It's a lot of people that can't have jobs, regular jobs for 12 years.

I had a regular job for 12 years. I'm cool. I tell people all the time, man, I went for 12 years. I had a perfect job for 12 years. I'm cool. Like, I tell people all the time, man, I went to high school. I went to education twice. I had to go kindergarten through 12th grade. That's 12. Then I had to play in the league as a rookie for 12 years. So that's 24 years of my life, man.

I've done something consistently. A lot of people can't say that. Hey, let's go! But that defense you guys had was unbelievable secondary notably legendary i mean across the board you ryan clark troy paul malu who's obviously a massive asshole but a really good football player guy that has taken a lot of people's dreams when you look at the teams like the chiefs or i guess you can't really say the buccaneers because they weren't able to figure it out, but when they got all those weapons, like the Chiefs, for instance, if you're in a secondary and you're preparing for that,

what do you do? How does that team get stopped? Because, listen, we are very much an overreaction show, and we're a daily show, so we have to ride the wave. But I find it very difficult to stop that. The more and more you think about it, it's like, okay, you take out Travis Kelsey, okay, no big deal. Take out Travis Kelsey, okay, you take out Tyreek Hill, no big deal.

Now they got a running back who is an absolute superstar. Then they got Sammy. Hey, PMAC, PMAC, we played y'all. Y'all had the same thing. Y'all had Marvin Harrison, y'all had Reggie Wayne, y'all had Dallas Clark, y'all had the same thing. Y'all had Marvin Harrison. Y'all had Reggie Wayne. Y'all had Dallas Clark. Y'all had Jeff Saturday. Y'all had Ezra James.

Y'all had a young... Joseph Adai. Joseph Adai. So, man, we've seen this before. Then that was one of the roads. Then we had to take another road to Rod Smith and Jake Plummer. Then we had to go to Carson Plummer when he had Ocho, R.I.P., Chris Henry, T.J. Huzmazada, Rudy Johnson, Corey Dillon.

Like, we seen this before. Then we had to go with Seattle. We had to beat Seattle. And Seattle was the number one team on offense in the league. So, everything you're saying, I get what you're saying. But history does repeat itself. So, yeah, KC, we done seen KC plenty of times. We done seen KC four times in one playoffs. So how do you stop it?

You just got everybody has to do their job? Is that kind of the thing? It's like, hey, everybody is going to have to tighten up here. The rules was a little bit different, man. It really was knock the soul out of a grown man and make sure his mom and his wife, his sister, his girlfriend, make sure they feel it. That was a little bit different when we play like when we play we really did try to knock the soul out of you

you can't do that now so how do the people how are people who aren't allowed to take the soul out of humans how are you going to be able to stop that chiefs in your eyes more like a schematic is there a scheme to do it or is all just people are going to have to just man up and make it happen? You got to keep them off the field. Don't forget, like, the Sean Washington company was up, was it 24-0, right? Yeah. In the playoffs. They was up 24-0.

They tried to get too cute. They tried to get too fancy. And what you do by keeping that kind of offensive, explosive offense off the field is you run the ball and you run a clock out same way cal shanahan did when he was the oc in atlanta and it could have beat the new england patrons in the super bowl all you had to do was run run the ball could they only get three time outs you run the ball you get two first downs that's damn eight minutes off the clock in each quarter now they're running out they're running out of time man timeouts now you got action but when you get too cute, it makes no sense. So I felt like Bill O'Brien and company just got too cute.

You was killing the KC defense by running the ball. Then you wanted to pass, and that's how their defense is built. Their defense is built to stop the pass. The reason why their defense is built to stop the pass is because they figure on offense, they're going to always be ahead. Same thing with the New Orleans Saints. The New Orleans Saints defense is built to stop the pass because they feel like they're going to always be ahead. Same thing with the New Orleans Saints. The New Orleans Saints defense is built to stop the pass because they feel like they're going to always be ahead of games because of their offense.

So that's how you've got to look at it. But people, they just can't see it. So if you want to beat them, you hold the ball and you run it. Well, that was exactly like the Colts team you mentioned. Now, I didn't get a chance to be teammates with Marvin Harris, and I have met him on occasion, but our team was loaded. But on the defense side of the ball, it was like, okay, here's the deal. Since we're going to have to lead a lot people are gonna have to come back we got Dwight Freeney and Robert Mathis coming off the edge and they are gonna get

rough they're gonna get to the quarterback hopefully and that was the entire build of the team by the way we're gonna spend money here and we're gonna spend money on these two spots right here and then we're just gonna figure it out from there that was the entire strategy but the kryptonite to that strategy is when you run up on a team that likes to run the ball. Like, we go through the regular season and we see what the New Orleans Saints do on offense. When they got to a smash-mouth team against the Minnesota Vikings, what happened? A push-off. It was like, no, we running the ball.

Minnesota, like, we running the ball regardless. So, when you get to a team that just want to play smash mouth football the way your team is built it doesn't help so in the playoffs and you know this you know this p man in the playoffs man games and championships are won off of defense and running game period run the ball stop the run that is number one rules one and two and then defense has to get off the field that is all over everything ladies and gentlemen two-time super bowl champ one of the most entertaining talkers i've ever heard in my life ike baylor yeah hey man you keep taking shots out of my hand man don't you know i know my hands wasn't good i didn't say that no no i'm just

saying what other people are saying i I'm reading the comments down here. It's not me. I'm just a boy. Why do you keep repeating, though, man? Well, because people keep repeating. I feel like you don't like me, bro. No, no, no, no. It's the complete opposite.

It's the complete opposite. I'm just playing, bro. I'm just playing. Hey, by the way, Ike, these hands right here, very good. Very good. But I wish I was half the athlete of you. No, I mean, I mean, Mac, you was one of the most entertaining kickers we knew. Thank you.

Mac, I really do feel like you could have been a part of the Pittsburgh Steelers. How you was aggro, bro. How you was aggro, bro. We always said, like, P-Mac wanted us. Well, Frank Gore. So Frank Gore, when he came to the Colts, he told me the same thing. He was like, Mac, you would have loved the Niners, man. You would have loved the locker room we had over there.

You would have absolutely loved it. 100%. 100%. Well, instead, you know, Indianapolis Colts, great place to be. Hey, great place to be. Ladies and gentlemen, Ike Taylor. Hey, Ike. We appreciate you, Ike. You my boy.

Appreciate you, bro. On this Wednesday, September 16th, Mac Fionnock Sports Talk has taken over Mad Dog. Joining us now is the Crimson Chin, ladies and gentlemen, Ohio State legend, Big Ten football is back. Can't wait to hear his reaction, A.J. Hawk. Hey, boy, A.J. What's up, guys?

Yeah, so you had Bob, General Bob on earlier in the show. I caught a little bit of the interview. Pretty good lap bob's taking but you know what i i respect him deflecting all the praise it's about the kids it's about the parents about everybody that put up the fight bob was just out there doing his little part so i appreciate him and what he did i knew he'd be victorious general bob carpenter was very humble this isn't about me this has been about the players all along. Whenever I was putting out the president's emails and addresses and phone numbers, it wasn't about me or them. It was about the players all along.

Whenever I gave the addresses of people to go picket in front of, that wasn't about me. That wasn't about them. That was about the players all along. And that's why that general led an army into a victorious position that it is right now. I think without all the uprise, without the noise this does not happen i would assume the presidents would have wiped their hands clean of this we have to figure out how we're going to continue to get people to pay full tuition while not taking them to class while having them locked down their dorm they wouldn't even thought about football but the noise that was brought not only in real life with the picketing

but on the internet it had to be deafening at one point for those presidents. And now here we are. They're not taking the test from the president because they don't want to make this political. But they will have rapid testing and testing and everything like that. And Big Ten football is back. Good news for the Big Ten, by the way, because I thought there was a chance they might drift off into irrelevancy, much like the Pac-12 already has. If the ACC, the SEC, the Big 12, the Sun Belt, and the American Conference,

was it going to be able to put off a great football season, which they started just last week? Zeke, is there any way we can pop that Bob's tweet up there again? Yep. It's my favorite part at the bottom. The President Harry Truman quote, it's amazing what you can accomplish when you do not care who gets the credit. Hell yeah.

Well said. Five-star general. Funny that General Bob Carpenter said that because we actually put out a poll on who deserves the credit. And our poll that Zito has run since this morning is currently at, right now, Kevin Warren, 3%. Picketing parents, 14%. 33% goes to General Bob. And then 50%. Sir Yacht. Sir Yacht is the one who the poll that Zito ran this morning

on who deserves the credit for who brought the Big Ten back. Sir Yacht has been saying on like six different occasions that a vote was happening and they were being reinstated, but he was right this particular time. They are back. Shout out to Sir Yacht for keeping the optimism going and the feel on the internet that it was coming back. And shout out to General Bob Carpenter leading an army of humans into full riots almost to get football back but

it once it got to the point where college game day was on location and the sun belt was playing games and a austin p was able to play and high schools all over midwestern big 10 states were packed out in their stadiums it was only a matter matter of time, I think, until the Big Ten had to face the music and say, hey, you know what, we got to about face on this thing. And by the way, I respect it. I respect people in power who normally have large egos because if you're the person making a decision over thousands and thousands of people and millions and millions of dollars lie on your desk and on your shoulder,

I would assume that you have to have some sort of arrogance and some sort of ego whenever you're doing that. For them to swallow that, look at the current circumstance, see everybody else being able to successfully do it, realizing like, well, if they can do it, we could probably do it, and about facing it, I think that's actually a little bit commendable. And shout out to the Big Ten giving themselves only eight weeks to complete an eight-week season. No buffer time

at all. They're doing it like, hey, we're going to do it, but we'll see if it works. We're going to give you eight weeks. Whatever it is, congrats to the Big Ten, I think, AJ. I agree. Congrats. And people they use politicians a lot of times as an example of, hey, you can't be a flip flopper. Like, oh, what do you mean? You voted this way

and then two years later you voted this way. Or did you support this? And then all of a sudden, you don't support it. But I think there's nothing more powerful and nothing more. Sometimes like when you remove your ego completely and you say, you know what? I was presented with new facts. I was presented with more information. And the biggest thing now it sounds like is they're presented with these instant tests that can do it in 15 minutes or whatever. they can get them not from the president cool whatever keep it non-political we're okay with that yeah it's funny to make the decision and admit hey there was a mistake earlier now i'm sure they're not saying this was a mistake they're saying now it was presented with more information we have better science now but either way they could have easily sat there

and be like well nope we made the decision decision's no, I'm glad because of everyone pushing back, they went and they had to get together and they figured it out. And now we'll see if it actually works, but at least they're going to give it a shot. I agree with what you said there. I agree with what you said there. Whenever facts roll out or situations change, you're allowed to change your thoughts and opinions on things as you learn more.

I agree that is very powerful. But if I'm Iowa, Nebraska, and the Ohio State, I'm peacocking all around the Big Ten Conference. I'm like, yeah, we know it. Oh, hey, yep, this is what we've been. By the way, you remember Kevin Warren, when you wanted to be the first one out to make a decision, you were like, yeah, ACC's going to follow us, and they didn't.

We were like, well, this is stupid. We shouldn't even be voting right now. We should just wait until we can learn more. And we've been right all along. It's hard not to peacock, I'd assume, if you're at the top of that bad boy and you were the ones that made the decision early that we're going to play football again. Yeah, most likely.

They should have just waited. Why didn't they just wait until now to make a decision or wait until August 25th? And I said this in the lead-off. AJ, you can't get a common sense in a classroom. You cannot get self-awareness out of a book a professor can't teach you feel in situations those are all things that you have to either have or grow and learn so there's a lot of phds i'd assume making a lot of decisions and i understand they're the most

educated people from what the books have told them to know in the world and i understand it but that can't teach you like the thought of we're going to be heroes tomorrow when we wake up we're after this decision and then the next day actually the entire world is burning around you telling you you're the dumbest human on earth like that is that is something you just can't get in a classroom that a lot of people have and i've always said this whenever you're making a decision you have to have jeopardy smart people around you and you have to have wheel of fortune people smart around you okay tell me what a book told you that told everybody else okay what do you think is potentially going to happen well i think everybody's going to be very pissed off like i think there's going to be a very loud code at you

really because the jeopardy person up here that has a phd said we're going to be heroes because this because we're thinking about blah blah blah blah it's like well that's very nice of you to think like that but i'm just telling you what the real world's going to do people are going to be pissed there wasn't one of those people in that meeting they all thought oh we're gonna be heroic in this thing it completely backfired there was no reason to go out and make that decision earlier than everybody else i think that is the biggest mistake if they could come out and say like hey our biggest mistake was getting out in front of this and being the first people to make a decision we're gonna try to be trailblazers and set the trend on what you're supposed to do now granted the ivy league

was before us but i don't mind them turning if they know that they have tests and everything like that yeah i have a question for you guys so general bob was really harping on the fact that like they did have this abbott testing or the rapid response early and there were still teams that didn't want to do it so now at this point is it political well and are they like was it like those like illinois i'm pretty sure they don't have high school football so and like maryland and ruckers these schools that weren't going to do it no matter what do you think the big 10 came to them and was like hey listen you guys are going to be shit out of luck if you don't come with us so like was there any situation where they potentially still weren't going to play this year are those three teams playing or not playing is everybody

yeah i'm under the assumption that everyone is playing eight games how many games is there normally in the Big Ten Conference? Eight games? Ten, I believe. So maybe a couple teams aren't playing. Maybe there's a couple teams that are like, we can't play because of our state regulations and our guidelines. We can't in our campus.

We can't play. But I don't know if that information has come out yet. I just know that the Big Ten will be honoring a Big Ten champion at the end of this. Am I right in that, AJ? Yeah, as long as there's no hiccups. I mean, like you said, they have eight weeks to play eight games so they can make them eligible for the postseason and college football playoff because that's all that matters.

Like if the Big Ten plays and something happens and they miss two or three games, you're probably not going to be able to put them into the college football playoffs, are you? Are you going to be able to put a Big Ten team through? And by the way, I think this, we talked about this earlier, I think the Big Ten playing, even though it's a month and a half from now, which I guess because you've got to get past the initial massive spike

in positive tests that's going to happen for every team that goes back. There's going to be massive tests. And I assume the media is going to be like, we have 45% of the Ohio State Buckeyes tested positive and aren't even allowed in the building and all that stuff. That's going to happen. I think that happens in a lot of places. They've been working.

They haven't really stopped coming into the facility, though. Haven't most of these teams still been at least working out together? I have no idea. We've heard a couple teams. It hasn't been every team. I don't think that is well known that every team has done that. Let's just assume, though, that the reason why it's not starting until October 24th is there's a COVID

positive test response reaction period, whatever that's going to be, in two weeks probably. So then that takes going to be in two weeks probably so then that takes you to a month before then and then they want a month to ramp back up i'd assume and that's you could probably cut that down to three weeks two weeks or whatever if you want to give yourself a bye week even or maybe a little buffer they decided against it but hey they've changed their decisions before and i'm not mocking them for it i'm just saying there's a chance we maybe get it a week earlier maybe the 17th instead of the 24th. Maybe give yourself a little bit of a wiggle room, I believe is what it's called, just in case old COVID comes running wild on you, brother.

I believe all teams are playing. And from the AD from Purdue said the schedule will come from the original nine-game Big Ten schedule. They're just going to have to drop one of those games. All right. Well, if I'm any other team other than Ohio State, I'm trying to drop Ohio State, and I'm trying to add Rutgers. Rutgers might have 14 games this fall.

Let's go to Big Jake over there in Wisconsin. What's going on, Big Jake? Hey, Pat, not too much. How are you guys doing down there? Hey, not too shabby, don't you know? Hey, I just had a quick question about the Colts. So with Allen Robinson supposedly wanting out now and Odell being on the trading block, what was the strangest pregame eating routine that you guys ever saw in the locker room?

Did you guys do anything strange yourself? Misdirection's back. Yeah, see, that's that. It's misdirection Tuesdays. Hey, hey, look over here. Look over here. What's your favorite meal before the game? Like, hey, Allen Robinson reportedly asked for a trade,

but he did not ask for a trade. And then there was the give A-Rob an extension thing yesterday. There was a lot of drama around Allen Robinson yesterday. But his agent came out and said that they did not request a trade. So who knows how that's going. And then Mike Francesa said yesterday that Odell Beckham Jr. was potentially on the trading blocks. There was a lot of smoke in there.

And I thought that was going to lead to a good conversation from that guy. But instead, misdirection, classic Mad Dog Radio, which I appreciate. Weirdest eating routine. I don't even know how to answer that question. I honestly have no idea. I mean, Dwight Freeney had like a chef that made him food. He had his own thing. And Vontae Davis used to drink this water that had like a pH level of like 27. It came in a glass

bottle. But aside from that, most people, the way they eat is they will put a fork into something. Then they would take the fork to the mouth, chew it up, swallow it. And then they would repeat that until the plate that was in front of them was either close to empty or fully empty. How about you, AJ? Not a whole lot. The only thing that comes to mind, there was a kid who was having these weird issues before the game, like in the locker room pregame. Sometimes you would, I never even really knew what was happening until all of a sudden one game we were on the road and the strength coach came up to me, one of the assistants, he's like, hey, you'll never believe what I just had to do. I was like, what? What do you mean? And he said, well, you know, this guy, he's been having these weird issues, mental issues, anxiety. I don't know what it is. He goes, he wasn't able to eat this it. I was like, what? What do you mean? And he said, well, you know this guy, he's been having these weird issues,

mental issues, anxiety. I don't know what it is. He goes, he wasn't able to eat this morning. He was freaking out. He said, so I had to go find chicken tenders, put them in a blender, mix them up, and make chicken tenders into some weird smoothie for him to drink because that's like the only way that he would be able to take the field. Commitment from the Green Bay Packers organization.

Well, this guy was, I don't think anything like that has ever happened before or after this game because it wasn't like this. Did he play good? He wasn't a 14-year-old pro by any means. He's a good guy. That game, I have no idea. What's his name? I think I was still thinking about how nasty that chicken tender smoothie would have been when i was playing the game i was like what are you doing man like your

breath probably smells terrible who's drinking chicken tender smoothies and a green bay packers organization who was it tells if i even if i told you the kid's name you wouldn't know who you what position i guess can i try to guess the position this sounds like a um corner this sounds like a corner it's not but it doesn't matter. D-line. What position was it? Come on. He played defense. That's all that matters.

But I'm not going to out the guy. Was it you? Oh, so now you're worried that you're going to out him. You won't even know him. You won't even know him, you said. I'm not worried. Who's drinking chicken finger smoothies, pal? Let's go talk to this guy.

That's what I'm saying. I have no idea. It was just weird. Bobby Carpenter. Oh, no. Not the general. He does eggs i know no he was if it would have been if the dude would have played lights out i could just not strength coach may have just resigned right there because he knew he was in for years of chicken tender smoothies the um we had a we had a muslim kid on our college

football team and when they're fasting when he was fasting yeah it was very interesting watching that entire thing because he was like i mean he had to go through everything that we went through and he wasn't able to eat until sun went down and as soon as the sun came up in the morning so he was up like i think like early early eating eating as much as he possibly could and then by the end of the day when we're in meetings and everything he was kind of like i don't want to say like witheringering away. He really was, though. And then as soon as the thing was, that was like the only real interesting eating situation. Any fast foods?

You guys have anybody like before the game who's eaten, you know, Wendy's, McDonald's, any of that? So for us, I would assume we're at the age where everybody had a pregame meal and you had to check into the pregame meal and you. Nutritionist. Everything. No, not nutritionist, but still pregame meal That you have in the In the lobby Or in the One of the conference rooms Of the hotel you're currently in You gotta check in

And everything like that But I would assume Back in the day Back whenever guys were Housing cigarettes at halftime And chugging beers In the locker room They were eating burgers

And whatever Whenever they could But most of the time Eating is all regulated By the team Because you're in the One area there So this is what you're gonna do

Unless you got a strength coach That's gonna go run And get you some spicy nugs and blend that thing up. I don't know. I don't know. It's wild. Football's a lot more strict than other sports.

That's why baseball players or basketball, if they see, like, wait, you guys have, they come knock on your door, you have bed checked the night before a game. Like, how structured it is and how you don't really, you don't have a ton of freedom. Like, baseball is so casual and lax with so many games. Those guys can do whatever they want. They show up to the park basically when they want.

Now, football, like, there's a first bus, there's a second bus, and you better be on them. Hey, which bus were you on, first bus or second bus guy? I was always second bus guy. I didn't need to get there and waste my time. I didn't go out on the field. I didn't do the pre-pre-game to try to get some face time and get on the camera.

Like, I warmed up when my team warmed up. What are you insinuating? Oh, didn't you get your face on the camera all game though didn't you hard to miss so okay well no i'm not insinuating anything if i was like a quarterback sure that's exactly what you're doing to catch some balls or i needed to punt or early to warm up that's those are the guys that need to go out early but linebacker what am i going to go out there and start doing three conecone drill to warm up? I got plenty of time. Ooh, run a 40.

You know what I used to do? I used to put my helmet on. I used to smash it off the upright. You know what I mean? Like in a pad and kind of wake myself up. Here we go. Let's get going. I was always first bus guy.

And by the way, normally first person off the bus. Hell yeah. Specialists have to be. I think McCarthy specialists absolutely had to be first bus because they go right on the field. It's literally the only time I get to kick a ball on the field is the pre-pre. And then once the warm-ups happen, well, of course, of course the defense needs 75 yards here to jog around. And then once kickers and punters warm up,

they have to somehow remain warm while standing on the sideline for 45 minutes. It's a very interesting thing. And then at halftime, let's say you had two punts in the first half. At halftime is your only time you can correct anything. And don't you worry about it, though. The marching band from Who Gives a Fuck University is playing, and they have a 110-yard-wide demonstration they want to give to you. So you have to wait until there's 27 seconds left in halftime

to get out there and hit the ball. And by the way, if you interrupt it, you're ruining their once you're ruining their once in a lifetime moment for them and their family during pre-game would coaches ever change anything or is by then everything's set in stone and you guys are everybody has their own thing like some coaches i see do stretch lines i've never i think we did that maybe one year normally it's come out individual groups and then there's like a little seven on seven and then there's a couple walkthroughs and then there's the classic call up at the end where people are giving motivational speeches and then you go in what was your guys did you guys do a stretch line i always found that weird we didn't do the stretch line no uh and that's one thing that they hated in green bay is

like the old school stretch line that you do in practice every day you know everyone lines up like every five yards and the coaches you know the coaches walk in and walk in and out and they just talk shop and they joke around, act like they're boys with every single player on the team? Yeah. That's something that the strength coach in Green Bay, and I am very happy for it, he told them like day one meetings, he's like, listen, coaches, stay the hell out of our stretch lines. Where we are stretching, we are warming up.

These guys are there to work. They're not there to talk to you, so stay the hell out. So we would do like moving stretch lines really, but they were real quick. We would do it first, and then you break off into your individual, and then you come together as a team. You get some thud reps with one offense, and

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because you have to have your media team has to write together a pitch for you to win it then they got to send it in then that has really oh yeah it's an entire thing yeah because i've had a couple big weeks and my name didn't get offered up because vinatieri would break a record or whatever and it was like uh i respect vinny i love vinny i mean but not a lot of motherfuckers are gonna do what i just did with the ball there they're like well, well, Vinny just broke a record, so let's go ahead and he potentially get him. I'm like, there'll be another. Well, Vinny Terry, by the way, didn't get it that week either. So it's like we kind of wasted our pitch.

You know what I mean? We wasted our pitch. I don't know. What the hell are they doing? Yeah, but it's not easy to get. AJ, I assume you got a few in your day. No, I don't think I did. I think my linebacker coach was pissed one time because we played the Ravens.

I don't know what year it was. I think I had three sacks, a couple pass breakups, whatever. I don't know I did. I think my linebacker coach was pissed one time because we played the Ravens. I don't know what year it was. I think I had three sacks, a couple pass breakups, whatever. I don't know how many tackles. I didn't get it. I remember my coach being all mad. I was like, it'll be all right. Like, who votes on that, coach? Like, who makes that decision?

Like, don't. It'll be okay. I do wonder who picks that because I do know that the media, individual teams, their media person, PR person, has to put together the pitch. And it's like a one-sheeter. Like, did this at this point in the game this happened this happened and then that gets submitted somewhere but i've never followed up with well where does it get submitted i was always just like oh it just gets submitted somewhere so we should find out before next week's

awards who makes a decision by the way saints punter thomas morstead will have the same exact game next week and the same exact game the week after that. Most consistent human potentially to ever kick. I'm very happy for him. Daniel Carlson, I think he made four extra points or four kicks or something like that. Ten points altogether. Congrats to him. Kickers were not great this weekend. I assume

Justin Tucker's not thrilled either because he had some bombs in there. But if you make one or two kicks this year, you could probably win Special Teams Player of the Week with the way things are going right now. Let's go to Roscoe Donner in Louisville. What's going on, Roscoe? Hey, man. What's going on? Hopefully I can redeem all the callers and bring

the juice and not misdirect you on my question. It's nice to talk to you. And AJ, I'm glad you're here to witness this too. So, I'm a big Green Bay Packers fan. Huge fan. I'm glad Rodgers is coming on the show every Tuesday, but a couple weeks ago, he said something, or you asked him a question,

Pat, and he kind of jumped over it, and it's been hurting me for you, so I wanted to call in. So, you were talking about the Kentucky Derby, and I know AJ's gone with him here. I'm a local here, and Derby's huge. Now, before I ask my question, what I want to say is this. I'll have AJ tell you after I hang up what the difference is in the infield

and the grandstands where he stands with Rodgers. But I will cordially invite you and the boys down here, and you could be coronated as king of the infield. I tell you, Pat, you would kill him, and you can make Rodgers jealous if you came down here and paint this fucking town. Imagine me looking up. You need to come to the derby.

Roscoe, imagine me looking up from the infield at all the royals up there. I'm looking up at Aaron. I'm looking up at AJ with their high society stupid hats up there, your mint juleps, and I'm down there in the infield with my throne, shotgunning beers with the white trash folks in the infield. I've been there before.

I'll go back again but it'd be very cool to be up there where they're at because boy it looked a lot nicer and a lot more comfortable air conditioning i think up there the whole thing aj has lived like a king in louisville these past couple years it just depends what you want man like some people only want that infield experience i may have years ago i think i would have thrived in that infield experience now at 36 years old i think it's passed me by in that infield experience now at 36 years old I think it's passed me by you got to know you got to stay in your lane didn't General Bob tell you that earlier like stay in your lane you got to know what your strengths and weaknesses are and

right now my strength would not be in the infield General Bob said he only wants to fight a one front war okay smart that's why he did Big Ten that's why he hasn't taken his army over to the Pac-12 he will be open for some consulting, though, if the general of the Mark Sanchez-led army in PAC-12 want to get after it. But General Bob said that. I was built for that infield years ago. I was. I tell you, I thrived in there.

I've been there a couple different times now. I had a very good time. At this point in my life, I don't think I can handle it. Now, that is not to be said, though, that if I was potentially invited or got my own suite where the rich guys are at and the boys came with, I would assume there's a chance at some point during that weekend where I'd look around and I'd look down the infield and go, I think we should go down there.

I would assume if I know me like I think I know me, at some point I'd look down there and I'd go, we've got to go down there. And we me at some point I'd look down there and I go we got to go down there and we would go down we'd get down there and it's there's a lot of chaos by the way you don't know who has beer there's like different situations going on we wouldn't be able to find something as quick and at that point I go I've made a large mistake you get mobbed we should go I would at this point in my life I would probably get mobbed down there because those are our people down there but boy the air conditioning that I see aj live in and aaron up there it is righteous on that may 2nd humid weekend in louisville and that's that's where i'm at now though i'm an old man plus you

run the risk of running into guy fieri and having him spit in your face again oh come on i mean that just didn't happen fieri fieri fieri guys up top guys up's up top where Aaron is, so you can run into him up there. Maybe your table will be right next to him. Guy Fieri told me he would make me famous. He put his phone on me, and he had his light on. He was videoing me, and he told me he'd make me famous. He told me I like to dance, basically. And I was like, well, I'm not going to do that.

But I appreciate your handle. Donkey sauce? What's that? How do you handle that? What do you do if he's filming you and saying i'm gonna make you famous i said i forget how i handled it i mean that was one of the most interesting situations i've ever been in in my entire life if you punch him in the face you probably would no no he was very nice he was very very nice to me aside from that one very awkward situation we were at the same party it was his party we were invited to go to a party that he was hosting by the people that were paying for him to host the

party so we stopped down there we go to the party the party was not great but we had a good time we had a good time and he was in the back like in a back corner section and i was asked like do you want to go meet guy fieri and i was like yeah of course i'd like to meet guy fieri so i have to get by he's one bouncer good guy very nice guy then there's another security guy and like in his back corner he's back there and we're all having a good time at this point right we're all having a good time and I go guy what's going on man nice to meet you shake his hand pre-covid you know do the whole thing I'm like diners drive-ins and I do the whole you know whatever you would anything that I know that this person does I just spit it out there and say I love it with a fist bump and I was going to walk out and he goes i like your style or something i'm like oh thanks man i like your style too you know

and then he pulls out his phone pulls out his phone and he goes i'll make you famous or whatever and i'm like well i don't need that okay i appreciate it i like did like a i did i think i did like a swim move potentially on it and i gave him a fist bump and then i walked right back out of there right back to the main area where all the boys were and i'm like can't wait to tell you what the fuck just happened back there let's get out of here but he back to the main area where all the boys were. And I'm like, can't wait to tell you what the fuck just happened back there. Let's get out of here. But he was very nice to us. And that party would have been good, I think.

That party would have been very, very good. Where was that party? It was at a bar down there on 4th Street Live. There was just nobody there. It was very interesting. Nobody there. Really? Guy Fieri hosting the party?

No way. Yeah, but Guy Fieri has like three restaurants down there. He does well down there. That particular party, though, had nobody at it. And I don't think it was Guy's fault, by the, had nobody at it. I don't think it was Guy's fault, by the way. I do not believe it was Guy's fault. I think there was other places that were popping off that I assume A.J. Hawk was at, but

I would have been famous then. Were there at least some gangster finger foods for you guys to enjoy? I don't even think there was food at all. I don't think there was food there. I think he just showed up to get his money, and he didn't really have his hands in the planning and the coordinating of the event.

Yeah, he was very nice to me, though, and he was going to make me famous, which I appreciate. Very nice. Let's go to Luke over here in New Jersey. AJ, what a situation. What do you do when somebody pulls out a phone? I do not do well in those situations. If somebody held it, I would, yeah, I would just walk away

and be like, well, can't talk to him again. Well, that is kind of what happened. But I just hit him with like, I forget how I exactly handled it. I think I hit him with like, okay, all right, I'll see you later. I'm going to get out of here for both of us. Luke in New Jersey, what's up, bub? Pat, I am here to redeem myself from my earlier mistake. How did he get through again?

Mitt. Luke, let's get to it. It's all Mitt. It's all Mitt. No, he's blaming Mitt. I like it. We're talking about Pandemic Pete and how horrible he is. Didn't make a shot in the fourth quarter.

If that was LeBron, he'd be crucified. He'd be done. Great. Did you watch the basketball game last night? The Los Angeles Clippers lost to the Denver Nuggets. Denver Nuggets, a lot of fun to watch, by the way. Very fun team to watch. It seems like they got it going on.

Jamal Murray is an electric shooter out there. And this dude, Joker, Djokovic, whatever his name is, people are saying he's going to be an MVP within like three years whenever people get used to the big man with Handel's vision and an ability to shoot. But Paul George last night had a rough one fourth quarter with four minutes left whenever they were losing i took that picture last night said oh he's in a bad spot right now on twitter he shot uh a three in the fourth quarter of game

seven while losing on a game you weren't supposed to lose he shot a three from the side and it hit the backboard and then bounced out uh like very very bad and then obviously the portland trailblazers cj mccollin and damian lillard who got into it with playoff p and with patrick beverly just earlier a couple weeks ago in the bubble they kept receipts they buried them promptly upon them being down 20 in the fourth quarter of a game seven i mean basketball drama is a lot more interesting right now than basketball on the court but that denver nuggets team is awesome and that clippers team is going to implode and i don't know when it's going to happen but everybody's waiting

on it and kawaii leonard will probably end up somewhere else or paul george will end up somewhere else but thus far said experiment of the clippers with paul george and kawaii leonard has been a failure and whenever you list off everything they had to give up to get Paul, a 2021 first-round pick, a 2022 first-round pick, a 2023 first-round pick, a 2024 first-round pick, cute the 2025 one. We'll take the 2026 first-round pick. That is very, very tough. And the stat that Joe Pompliano said here is,

last night Paul George made less field goals for than first round picks that the clippers had to give up to get him and that is a tough stat for a game seven i mean i i'm i'm sure i'm very ignorant on this and basketball fans i'm sure would be upset but i had no idea they gave up five first round picks for paul george me neither by the way i thought they just signed him as a free agent i had no idea that that happened both those players too gallinari and alexander both very good at basketball that's tough paul george be an Indiana Pacer whenever the Pacers were very very good it was a lot of fun to watch those teams I guess since leaving here somehow something has happened the internet has turned on him I did not know that I always got along with Paul I liked

Paul got a chance to do some celebrity stuff with him and when he was on this team they were very good then something happened at the all-star game nobody knows i it potentially involved paul and immediately after that all-star game the team's dynamic completely changed y'all hated each other they lost everybody gets sent out of town george hill gone see you later paul george gone see you later roy hibbert gone see you later coach gone see you later larry bird retire i mean something happened at that all-star game that i don't know lance stevenson gone see you later i, that whole team basically got imploded. And I was like one of their biggest fans. Bought 5,000 tickets so they could have a sellout for a playoff game there.

And ever since then, everything has changed for both the Pacers and for Paul George, it feels. Because the internet were savages on that dude last night. It was tough. Tough night. They're on Kawhi now, too, aren't they, after this one game? Yeah. I mean, he didn't play great, but it's still Kawh night. They're hard on Kawhi now, too, aren't they, after this one game? Yeah. I mean, he didn't play great, but it's still Kawhi. They love him.

So Kawhi and Paul George scored zero points in the fourth quarter. That is tough. The team. The team didn't hit a field goal until there was four minutes left in the fourth quarter. And they were in the other Denver Nuggets in the fourth quarter last night were knocking out. Jamal Murray hit a fadeaway three from, like, the four-point shot in the big three yeah i mean it was it was awesome to watch by the way because game seven those are the shots that you remember and i would assume jamal murray like those are shots he's going to talk about for a long time but what that's an inch and a half away from being a brick

those things falling for him last night it was very obvious early in that fourth quarter like oh this is over if that's going in and that's not on the other side this is over and i hammered the denver nuggets plus seven and a half by the way hammered it just strictly because i don't know a lot about basketball but seven and a half points is a lot of fucking points in the game seven turns out clippers need a lot more than that if they want to keep it in what's that aj now you showed that magic johnson tweet so he said in 2015 the clippers choked and then they choked again last night in the year 2020. Are there any players on the Clippers now that were on the team in 2015? No.

Doc Rivers. Oh, Doc Rivers. He's gone. People are saying they're running him out of town. He'll be a hot commodity, though, on the streets. He's like 14 and 27 in those type of series-ending games. Elimination, yeah. You know, our numbers on YouTube, I don't know about on Sirius,

but on YouTube when we start talking NBA, just see you later. No juice. No juice. Chris Mad Dog Russo, legend in sports talk world, whenever he said, welcome to Mad Dog Sports Radio, he gave me an entire like 12-minute rundown of everything. You see, NBA is not going to give you any juice. Not going to give you any juice.

Maybe LeBron's in the finals. They'll get some juice. But aside from that, you're not going to get any juice. Turns Not going to give you any juice. Maybe LeBron's in the finals. He'll get some juice. But aside from that, you're not going to get any juice. Turns out Clippers losing to the Nuggets in an upset. No juice. People are bailing the fuck out. Let's go to Clayton over there in Pennsylvania. What's going on, Clayton?

What's going on? I'm hearing some music right now. Could I be talking? Can you hear me? Oh, this guy stinks. All right, Clayton. Thanks, bud. Let's go to, Clayton. Thanks, bud. Let's go to Zach in Minnesota.

Hey, how we doing, boys? Hey, not too shabby. A lot better than Clayton in Pennsylvania. I think the guy is delusional right now. Might blow on mushrooms. Don't know what he's hearing. Somebody needs to check on him in Pennsylvania, please. Excited to chat with you in Minnesota, pal.

Yeah. Roll the boat. Ski you, ma. Go Gophers. Hey, don't you know that? Hey, we're all in that boat there. We're paddling, you see, and we're all going the same direction there, don't you know? We went down there to Minnesota, and it's very cold down there in Minneapolis.

That's why they have the entire city connected, so you don't have to go outside when it's negative 28. Yeah, and then you can catch swordfish out of Lake Minnetonka. Oh, yeah, yeah, you're going to Lake Minnetonka with the Arctic wolves out there. You stick your arm down in the hole, and don't you know it here, a swordfish comes out. We're big Minneapolis, Minnesota fans here. Oh, yeah. Well, I was calling in today to talk about that other bubble. Let's see if we can get more juice rolling into the show here.

Oh, let's talk about the MLS. Yeah, this will be great. No, no, no. No, no. NHL, baby. Oh, the NHL bubble. Yeah, that'll bury our ratings for sure there. See you later.

Let's talk about it. I just wanted to hear you guys' thoughts on the Game 5 and the Eastern Conference Finals. Who cares? Who cares? Let's go to Logan Higgins. Oh, well, actually. Who is playing?

Who's left? So the stars, Gumpy's Dallas Stars, are in the finals. Gumpy has a fake team every single day. It's wild. Gumpy has a new fake team every single day. He's got some Western Canada, loves Dallas Stars are in the finals. Gumpy has a fake team every single day. It's wild. Gumpy has a new fake team every single day. Guys from Western Canada loves Dallas Stars. And in Tampa Bay, the New York Islanders are finishing up in the East. The Islanders

are winning? No, they are down 3-2 currently. Oh, no. Everyone's just waiting for Tampa to finish them off. Let's go to Logan Higgins in Green Bay. Don't you know? How you doing, guys? Not too shabby. How are you overins in Green Bay. Don't you know? How you doing, guys? Not too shabby. How are you over there in Green Bay?

I assume AJ knows you pretty well. Small town over there. Everybody knows everybody. Yeah, AJ, you probably do know Chives. You know Chives? Of course. Yeah, I know Chives. Oh, us too.

Yeah, this is Logan from Chives. Logan from Chives. I actually do know Logan. Yeah, absolutely. I saw you. I was there last, Logan. What's up, man? Yeah, absolutely. I saw you when I was there last, Logan. What's up, man? Yeah, dude.

For Aaron's birthday. How are you doing? For Aaron's birthday. He's saying it. Pat says it's a joke, and it's actually you. So, yeah, Pat, I really do know Logan. I know, right? Green Bay is the smallest village of all time.

I'm telling you. It is a tiny little town. I like this. Logan from Chives. What do you want to talk about, brother? Nothing, man. I just want to talk about, well, first, I i am that you got a you got a show back that you got aj out of the off and you got aaron out of the week i mean it's my kind of show i'll be listening every day

oh we appreciate that lucky to be here thankful for aj thankful for aaron and the boys here and have i ever been to chives is that that bar and restaurant in green bay yeah you yeah you did come when you when you called that game, I think it was last season, you came with the Fox crew. Yeah, you were behind the bar, right? You were the guy that was behind the bar? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. I know Logan, too. Oh!

Logan! Hey, Logan, you're kind of hipster looking, right? Like, kind of a hipster looking guy? I don't know about hipster. I mean, I don't... I would say not hipster looking, right? Like kind of a hipster looking guy? I don't know about hipster. I don't direct hipster. I would say not hipster. You can say hipster-ish. You normally have a pretty good memory. That's on me, Logan.

Can't wait to get back to Chives over there. Does he own the place? Yeah, I think I met that guy. I think I met Logan from Chives. Logan, he's taking it over. Yeah. He worked there. I think he owns it now. Yeah, I do know. Yeah, meet Logan. Good for Logan. Meet Logan, AJ, and Aaron. You know, we know each other.

Whenever I called the game out there, the Fox team was like, we're going to go have a production dinner or whatever. And I asked where, and they said, well, you only do it at one place, and it's Tribe's. Very nice restaurant. Cold as balls outside. Very, very nice restaurant, though. Very nice.

Yeah. I know the crews go there because we would eat there a lot on Friday nights. We had Troy Aikman, Joe Buck on a lot of our games, a lot of Fox games. So I would see them strolling there a lot. Where's the after parties over there? Is that at Chives, like after games? You guys all head over to Chives? No.

There's not a whole lot of after parties. I mean, you guys go to each other's houses. I think there's other spots. There was a real good bar called Sports Corner our Super Bowl year that we would go to a lot. And all your families would come. And there's pool tables like a legit bar, not a club. It was awesome and then it eventually shut down but that was

our spot for our Super Bowl year. I was a club guy for a while then I became a bar guy. I love the bar era. The bar era is a good time. Way better. You know when you can hear people and have conversation and see stuff and do stuff. That's really good. And then obviously I got arrested or whatever.

Let's go to john in kansas last call what's you could hear each other in a bar that's the best part club you can't hear yeah i agree in the club you're only on one mission here i'm here to get as ripped as possible in here how can i get as obliterated as possible in here let's go ahead and do it and And by the way, my dance moves are good. So get ready for those. You got to bring skis to the club, too. That's the problem. Once you hit... What's that?

What? Oh, you're talking about all the cocaña? Yeah. See, that wasn't my thing. In most clubs, I'm just saying, it flies around. A lot of people... By the way, new people that hear me or see me, they're like, lay off the cocaine or whatever,

because I have high energy or whatever. I'm the complete opposite human, actually. I need less energy. I don't need something to go into my brain and fucking wake it up anymore. Green tea from Starbucks. Let's go to John in Kansas. Exactly. It's Ray. John's dead. All right. John, John, John.

AJ, Richard Sherman went on IR today. For three weeks, you have to be on IR before you can come back. So obviously, T's and P's of Richard Sherman. Hope IR today. For three weeks, you have to be on IR before you can come back. So obviously, T's and P's, Richard Sherman. Hope it's not serious. I like this three-week you-can-return thing for teams and for rosters and for everybody, even players included in that.

I hope they keep this post-COVID world. I hope this becomes a new norm where guys can go on IR, we can open up a roster spot while keeping this person around, rehab them, get them back whenever they're healthy, go back to the roster, the active roster. Do you agree with that? I hope this continues after COVID season.

I absolutely agree with this because let's say Richard Sherman, let's say it's not a three-week injury. Say it's a six-week thing. He's dealing with a calf, I know. You can bring him back. Like instead, back in the day, they'd have to make the decision, hey, six weeks, we need to open up that roster spot. We might have to put him down for the year.

So I think these new – the rules they're doing right now, they should carry over into the post-COVID years. Rather massive news coming out of the Denver Broncos. Vic Fangio, the head coach, has backpedaled a little bit on his post-game press conference where he said, I didn't do anything wrong. I don't care what you say. The whole world thinks I mismanaged my timeouts in the clock.

I went to sleep tonight after losing a game with two timeouts when I could have used them earlier and maybe got the ball back. He came out and said this yesterday. I did miss calling a timeout after the second down play from the 29-yard line. When Henry got 13 yards down to our 16, I should have called timeout there. That was the one I missed. It was, you know, it was totally my fault there. I had too much thought into what I was going to call next on defense,

and I missed it. And I don't want to say that I told you so about him worrying about defense and being a defensive guy interrupting him, but I did say this, AJ. Is Vic Fangio a defensive guy? Yeah. He was Bears DC before he went over. It makes even more sense because defensive coordinators don't have to handle game situations it's always offensive coaches okay do we punt here uh do we

go for it do we take a knee do we do this the offense is much more so driving the action and the defense is reacting to so i think a lot of defensive coaches that become head coaches have no idea what's going on in situational football or in time management because they've never had to deal with it because they're always reacting to the other you agree with that on age i mean obviously it's right what i just said big fan just came out and said it but i had to run that back just for new listeners and new viewers to know that i do know what i'm talking about a little bit you have to agree i assume i 100 agree with you i think it's a great point that probably does not get talked about enough.

Yeah, defensive guys are always reacting. Okay, so the offense, timeout. Okay, we're going for it. We're doing this. And the defense is just like, oh, they're calling a timeout. Okay, let's go ahead. Let's do this. Let's go ahead and react to it.

And whenever you're doing that and you become a head coach, you become the guy. And they said that there was multiple people trying to tell them what to do. Hey, can't have too many chefs in the kitchen, pal. Food never get done. There should be one voice in there and i assume vick's gonna assign somebody and uh tom mcmahon special teams guy he is somebody who is good with time management because it always affects the special teams by the way well here's some breaking news floyd mayweather jr has signed a contract to fight logan paul in an upcoming exhibition match to

take place before the end of 2020 says source this. This is classic Floyd Mayweather, by the way. This guy, Floyd Mayweather, he signed an exhibition match in Japan on New Year's Eve, and he went in there and just beat a billionaire's son to death. The guy actually cried in the ring. Floyd Mayweather had an actual boxing match against a man who has never had a professional boxing match before. It made over $150 million in doing so. match before it made over 150 million dollars in doing so Floyd Mayweather will now somehow exhibition box against a man who's double his size in Logan Paul who has been working out is in great shape he was a high school wrestler in Ohio but this is going to be the same story I'd assume as

every other fight against Floyd Mayweather you can train all you want your cardio will never be able to keep up with him your hands will never be as fast as him you won't be able to hit him you will lose but i am pumped to watch logan paul in floyd mayweather jr and by the way shout out to logan paul stepping in the ring of floyd mayweather shout out to logan paul doing these professional boxing matches you just got to keep your head on a swivel floyd mayweather's hated by everybody but he's the greatest of all time for a reason and i assume this is a great way to get some more money good for him that's what he is he's a businessman a money team and i will watch this and i think people probably hate me for promoting it but i will fucking watch it for sure y'all watch it i mean i don't think logan paul has

a chance against floyd you mentioned it like no one can hit floyd do we have any idea any more details like how many rounds it is what network is on is it on youtube what are we doing so an exhibition whenever we were talking to uh george no evander when we were talking to vander holyfield the x i think it was george holyfield right yeah he's taking george foreman i was thinking george foreman which by the way the grill incredible grill i mean great it's supposed to be hulk hogan's by the way he said no they give it to george foreman oh hulkster he made enough he made enough hulk hogan's made enough money but it could have been even more. We were talking to him.

The exhibition fight was like three rounds, and there's no winner. Because this was whenever he was thinking about getting back in the game. Mike Tyson was thinking about getting back in the game, and they were talking about having these exhibitions. And he was like, it's three rounds or five rounds, and there's no winner, and they've got to wear a helmet, the whole thing.

So as he was telling us, because we were promoting him getting back into the fight game, and he was like, how he always stays in shape. Hey, you don't have to get ready if you stay ready and all this stuff. It was a cool conversation. We were talking about Mike Tyson. Like, hey, Mike Tyson's going to come throw refrigerators at some old folks and just line them up like we were pumped about it.

And he was like, no, it's going to be an exhibition. So it'll be three, five rounds. We wear headgear and there'll be no winner. And it just completely took the entire soul out of the conversation. Well, that sounds like it's going to suck. I floyd mayweather and logan paul understand good content and that'll it'll be different than normal exhibitions and i would assume they can make their own rules but the exhibitions of the past there's like no winner you have to wear headgear you have to all this i hope they change that yeah i don't think that's going to be the case and right now

the tyson roy jones jr fight is still on, as far as I know. Can't be moved. Can't be moved. Can't be done. We hot when we learn. It's a song, dude. That's Roy Jones Jr. He's a rapper. Oh, really?

I know he has, like, Russian citizenship. The dude, he was awesome. I used to watch him all the time. Oh, that guy's talking back in New York. I thought there was a human just whispering in my brain right there. I was like, am I losing my shit right now? He was Sirius XM back there in the corner. AJ, appreciate you, brother.

We'll see you manana. Tomorrow, we got guests that people are going to be mind blown by. Tomorrow's guests are big, big, big guests. Good tease. Don't let everybody know. Keep them on the hook. Yeah, because we won't let other people know because we know for sure. Oh, yeah.

Couldn't guess. We looked at our guest list and we're like. Jeez, Thursday's going to be huge. Thursday. Everybody's talking Tuesday with Aaron and all that stuff. And NFC Defensive Player of the Week on Wednesday. And it's like, well, wait until you fucking see Thursday. Blown away. Blown away.

Surprised. I can't wait. You teased me. I can't wait. I'll be coming back. We have no idea who's on the show tomorrow, but it'll be a good show. We can't wait to see you. Remember, if you're a McAfee Mafia member, please utilize that discount code,

which basically gives you your money back that you paid to become a McAfee Mafia member. We are building a studio currently that's going to be done next week, I believe, at my house for more content. Cannot wait to give exclusive offers, exclusive content, great emotes, everything you could potentially think for the McAfee Mafia members. We appreciate the hell out of you. From myself, the stogie smoking legend, AJ Hawk, and all the boys, have the best Wednesday you've ever had in your entire life. We'll see you manana.

Cheers. All right, that's the show. Not a bad little Wednesday. We don't normally do shows on Wednesdays, so I'm pumped that you potentially fit us into your listening rotation. I know that you have a lot of other things that you could potentially let penetrate your ears

on this beautiful middle of the weekday, but the fact that you allowed us to do so we are very very very grateful big thanks to general bob carpenter for all the work he did on the front lines for the big 10 conference football coming back this fall shout out to ike taylor and nagi raj with the workout love that man two-time superbowl champ we'll be back manana gumpy please play some independent music. You gave it all up and walked by my side Do you see the road? Do you hear its call? Do you want a bite of me?

Just get me a bone now Just get me a bone She's got me up on fire Thank you. I want to keep going with you. I want to keep going with you. See the sun goes down Driving lights in hearts Counting threes around This is our day to treat My heart, it's cursed with you Do you see the road? Just give me a call Do you see the road?

Just give me a call I don't know. Do you see the road? Do you hear its call?