The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 275 - MNF Recap, Aaron Rodgers, Ike Taylor, Tom Pelissero, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: October 20, 2020

On today's show, Pat and the boys react to both of last night's Monday Night Football games, wonder what the hell is going on in Dallas, chat about Tua getting the starting nod in Miami, and everything else going on in the NFL. Joining Pat and AJ on today's show like he does every Tuesday is Super Bowl Champion/MVP, 2x MVP, perennial Pro Bowler and All-Pro, the Quarterback for the Green Bay Packers, Aaron Rodgers. Pat, AJ, and Aaron chat about this weekend's game against the Bucs, how they're going to bounce back, why he thinks a reality check was good for the Packers, his thoughts on a potential acting career, the last episode of Game of Thrones, and much much more (32:09-1:16:41). Also joining the show is 2x Super Bowl Champion, long time Pittsburgh Steelers legend, and friend of the program, Ike Taylor. Pat and Ike chat about this years Steelers team and why Ike is confident about them going forward, he reminisces about his time going out in Pittsburgh after winning a Super Bowl, what he thinks is going on with the Cowboys defense, and his thoughts on players asking to be traded (1:16:43-1:40:08). Later, NFL Network Insider and friend of the program, Tom Pelissero joins the show. Pat and Tom chat about Tua being named the starter going forward in Miami, what he's hearing about potential trade rumors including John Ross and David Njoku, the punishments that the Titans await for their Covid-19 outbreak, and everything else happening in the NFL (1:40:10-2:02:56). Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow as we have reached 1 million subscribers and are giving away $100,000, and listen every day on Mad Dog Radio, Sirius XM Channel 82. We appreciate you all for listening, come and laugh with us, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

hello it is aaron rogers tuesday october 20th 2020 october 20th uh is a date that is near and dear to my heart obviously you can go back 10 years from now and listen to an alleged story from the officers of the law uh got arrested obviously public intoxication changed my life forever went from an anonymous kid buying shots for everybody in indianapolis that is probably using his dad's card why does he have money to oh your mug shot is being shown around indianapolis 400 times a day because we're on a bi-week and there's nothing else to talk about you can't go outside anymore everybody knows who you are i mean not just indianapolis either i remember being iowa and then them talking about it on like the dan patrick show and etc etc like i mean it was on every morning radio show i believe jimmy fallon uh had a jimmy

kimmel had a joke about it there was a couple others that had a joke about it yeah when i got out uh you know when i got out tim mcpee drove out to see me, obviously. And if you ever heard me tell the story about it, Tim was my only call. You get one call from jail, and you've heard about it, but you never expect to actually have to do it. And I only had one phone number saved, and it was Tim's. So I called Tim, and the whole conversation is like, hey, Dad, I fucked up. He goes, oh, we know. He did conversation is like, Hey dad, I fucked up. He goes, Oh, we know, like, you know, he did the entire thing and then it abruptly hung up. Okay. So just abruptly hung up. So I have to hang up my side. And then I tell the two guards that

were with me and just to walk me back to my cell or whatever. Like my dad didn't want to talk to me at this moment. So I get out, I go to the facility, I get sent home, obviously suspended the whole thing. I go back to my house. I don't have a phone. I don't the facility. I get sent home, obviously suspended the whole thing. I go back to my house. I don't have a phone. I don't have anything. And I opened my laptop that I probably hadn't used in like two, three years at that point. I was going to send a message to my mom on Facebook to like apologize or whatever. As I'm doing that knock on the door, you know, and it's Tim McAfee.

I'm like, what the fuck are you doing here? I only had one call. You hung up on me. He was like, no, dude. They asked me if I wanted to buy minutes to talk to you. It was like, what the fuck are you doing here? I only had one call. You hung up on me. He was like, no, dude. They asked me if I wanted to buy minutes to talk to you. It was like 40 bucks a minute. Your mom and I talked about it and we just

at the time, we just figured we'll talk to him later, I guess. They didn't tell you. They told me they were going to tell you that I chose not to do that. Can't trust anybody these days. That's quite a scene. Life has changed drastically since then. For the better, obviously.

And life is good. But October 20th, also the day I tackled Trinden Holiday, I believe. Pretty sweet moment. Pretty big day. Sunday Night Football, Peyton Manning came back to town. His first trip back to Indianapolis as a member of the Broncos. The loudest Lucas Oil Stadium has ever been. Awesome.

It was an awesome environment. And I think Sunday Night Football said it was their, at the time, the highest viewed regular season game of all time or something like that. It was awesome. Everybody talks about the tackle. I think I had six punts inside the 20 that night, too. No big deal, Peyton. You're going a long way, pal.

You want to score against us. I was getting lucky, obviously. So, october 20th big day in my life and today i think we're gonna have one of the coolest conversations we've ever had we knew uh and by we i mean us in the office we knew there was a very good chance that the green bay packers were not going to go undefeated correct it just wasn't going to happen only one team in 101 years of existence of the NFL has gone undefeated. 72 Dolphins. They'll celebrate like they do every single year whenever whoever finally loses and becomes no more undefeated teams or whatever. So I'm intrigued for how this conversation is going to go. Me too. Once again, if you like this show, be a friend, tell a friend at the end of it. If you don't like the show, just act like it never, ever happened. I am on a heater, by the way.

Yeah. Wish I could grab some of that via osmosis. I'm getting my fucking teeth kicked in. Me and the Hammer right now are swinging on the Hammer Don podcast, which is hosted by Tone Diggs. I'm on it with Gumpy and Michael Lombardi. I am 24 and 11 on the season right now. That is very good.

It feels good. I'm going to be honest. It feels good. And the Cardinals winning by two scores. I never had something hit me like that. Like it was a wave. In the middle of the conversation, I just had this, the universe just like dumped on me. They were like, excuse me, this is going to be a double digit.

I was like, oh my God. it literally just hit me out of nowhere and one of those things whenever you you you realize it you feel it you just gotta hammer it and by the way that would be the story of my life i'm too dumb to second guess anything that my gut says or the universe says i just run with it and it's been hit it's been hitting us worked out well so far hey it do be like that sometimes so if i get one of those again i will tell you i mean i said it aloud brought the hammer out and everything but hammer don h-a-m-m-e-r-d-a-h-n is our gambling podcast and we are we are giving out winners oh yeah oh yeah people don't like talking about whenever they're on a heater or whatever once again again, I'm on a heater right now. Gotta ride the wave. Will it

turn? Probably. Potentially. They say that's what sports gambling does, but I don't see it happening in the near future. If you don't feel like it's gonna happen, then you're good. Oh, I feel good. Last night, I couldn't have been more certain of what was gonna happen. Both those games, I was just, eh, here we go. This is gonna happen. It's

kind of a fun way to watch games, by the way, when you just know you're going to win a bunch of money from Vandal. Yeah, I would imagine so. It's pretty cool. It's pretty, pretty cool. That first half of that game, they're up, what, 21-3 or something like that? And I got a couple of texts from some people and a lot of tweets that were like, I don't know how you knew this was going to be a blowout. I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. This is is the nfl in 2020 okay 21-3 is nothing then i got in the third quarter i quickly realized like oh this is just going to keep going and it did it just kept on going it felt really good and if you're gambling at home alongside us which i would recommend if you can you have to be gambling at fandle sportsbook

fandle is a mobile sportsbook obviously obviously, that goes on your app. They also have one brick and mortar over there in Jersey. It's beautiful. I've never been, but I've heard it's beautiful. But their mobile sportsbook app from Fandle is the most user-friendly app I think I've ever encountered, actually. I agree, especially for this kind of stuff. The amount of things that are on there, the amount of sports you can gamble on, the odds are the best that they could possibly be. But it's so easy to use. What do you like?

Boom, I like this. Boom, I like that. Bang, you're off and running. Oh, the odds change real quick. Okay, boom, I still like that. Oh, live betting. Let me see. I think this team's going to get hot.

Let me go. Is that right? Yep, boom. Let me hit that. It's just so easy to use. It's so user-friendly. And they refund bets on a regular basis. Not normal, by the way.

Probably more than they should, to be honest. They are a dumb business with the amount of money they give away, the amount of odds that they boost. They give you better odds than anywhere else. It's just, I don't know how they're making money, but we don't care. They're a big partner of ours, and we appreciate the hell out of them, but our job is to bankrupt them, and we can't thank FanDuel enough. If we're coming to Tennessee, I do believe.

Okay. That might be breaking news. I'm not a Harmsen sure. Really? I think we're coming to Tennessee, yeah. And when we come to your state, just know that you can do whatever. You want to try other ones? Cool, cool, cool.

You will quickly realize, like, okay, this is the best one. Well, and if I'm not mistaken, the first kind of kind of like bet you offer is basically always a guaranteed winner you know if they're still if they're boosting those uh those lines up big time whether it's the titans or the tennessee vols or whoever like it's going to be an automatic winner yeah and i will push very very hard for a spread the love maybe down there in tennessee so we're going to be a team betting thing so you can get the line all the way up So it is an automatic win or whatever Yeah, so we're coming to your state If we're not there yet, get ready It is a good time

It makes watching sports, I don't know 4,000 times better And if we're in your state already, let's go Come join us, let's have a good time Let's get to the show here Big day, Ike Taylor, Tom Pelissaro And Aaron Rodgers let's have a tuesday back to back monday late afternoon and night football games the fox broadcasts of troy joe

ea and christina had the chiefs travel to the buffalo bills in a torrential downpour with 49 degree weather in the Kansas City Chiefs. Broke multiple Andy Reid era records last night. 46 rush attempts, 245 yards rushing, the most in the Andy Reid era. Absolutely smothered the Buffalo Bills in Buffalo. Once again, showcasing that if they have to win a game on the ground, they can do so, like they did the opening night when they fed Clyde Edwards-Elair,

or as Jim Nance and Tony Romo named him, C-E-H, the Rock, on a regular basis. The offensive line for the Kansas City Chiefs showed up in beautiful fashion last night, and Patrick Mahomes made plays when he had to. And on the flip side, the Buffalo Bills never really seemed to get much going. Josh Allen ran the rock, I think, eight times for 40-some yards, looked like he was taking some monster shots that he was just eating for lunch,

and I was very impressed with it. A couple of his passes off the mark, he only threw for 122 yards, two touchdowns, one interception. But I think the stats don't really showcase how terrible the weather was for Josh Allen and for the Kansas City Chiefs. That's why the rushing attempts for the Kansas City Chiefs were up more than they had ever been before. So I don't think we can judge Josh Allen, the passer, in this particular game.

But I do believe we can judge the Buffalo Bills as a team at this point. Early in the season, Bills mafia was riding high as they should, by the way. Josh Allen was having his first 300-yard game, second 300-yard game, third 300-yard game. We're winning. We're winning. The New England Patriots don't have Tom Brady anymore. The Miami Dolphins, big news coming here in a couple minutes, by the way. And the New York Jets are the New York Jets. They thought now was their time, especially after last year's playoff run. Now here we are. Titans, one of the top AFC teams, just absolutely ate them for lunch. Kansas City Chiefs in a game that you would think would favor the Buffalo Bills with the ground and pound style. Kansas City Chiefs handed them dinner. I mean,

it was a rough afternoon and night if you look at it in that particular fashion for the Buffalo Bills, but that team's still going to have to get better. Kansas City Chiefs has proved that Kansas City Chiefs are still the most dynamic offense out there. If they need to pass, they can do it. If they need to run, they can do it. And they still have another player that's currently in quarantine named Le'Veon Bell who'll be joining that roster. Kansas City Chiefs look absolutely stupid. And in the late game, the Red Rocket, Andy Dalton, led the Dallas Cowboys at home against Kyler Murray in the Arizona Cardinals. Early in the game, he didn't know what was going to happen.

Punt, punt, this isn't what we thought. Is this just going to be an ugly evening? Then Zeke gets a fumble. Then Kyler Murray misses some passes, and they don't really take advantage of it. What's going on here? Then the Dallas Cowboys did exactly what the Dallas Cowboys have done and just give up a bunch of points. They're on pace to set another record on the defensive side of the ball to give up the most points in an NFL season. In this particular time, Kyler Murray was nowhere near his best. Nowhere near. He was missing passes that he

doesn't normally miss. He was missing reads, I guess, that some people say he doesn't normally miss. But on the ground, he just ran all over. all over i mean it was next level he was untouchable by that dallas cowboys defense they pop one late to somebody to deandre hopkins larry fitzgerald got a couple catches but everything about that dallas cowboys team from the defensive side of the ball looks like they're a sieve like they're just going to give up points even if they make some big plays and they're rallying to the ball and it looks like energy is high for whatever reason the Dallas Cowboys defensors can't stop shit that's just what they can't do and we as gamblers will note that going forward for everybody they play until they prove differently by the way we thought there was

a chance that this was a team that they could maybe rally behind because Kyler Murray's been kind of hot and cold this particular season maybe this is when the Dallas Cowboys step up, but no, they didn't. I thought that the Cardinals were going to win by two scores yesterday. I hammered it, and it was coming to fruition very, very early. And on the flip side, Andy Dalton and that Dallas Cowboys offense got a lot to figure out. Everybody was like, they're going to have to feed Zeke. They're going to have to feed Zeke because McCarthy maybe doesn't have the passer. Not maybe. Definitely doesn't have the passer that he had in Dak and Andy Dalton.

They fed Zeke. And for whatever reason, Zeke was wearing a sweatshirt underneath, and he gives up two fumbles. The first one he caught, it was kind of like in the middle of the field. It wasn't exactly like a running back fumble. But the second one, it was just a clear fumble. He squeezed. Ball came out.

And a lot of people would say maybe it was the sleeves, maybe it was the thing. But also, Zeke could potentially be in his own head right now. They say fumbles come in bunches, and they also say once a fumbler, always a fumbler. So will Zeke be able to get rid of this in this season that is obviously going to be very daunting for the Dallas Cowboys without Dak Prescott? Or is he going to continue to be a fumbler, be on the sidelines, and Andy Dalton and Tony Pollard are going to have to take over this offense, and then that defense, it looks like they're not going to be able to stop shit.

Is this just going to be a nightmare year for the Dallas Cowboys, but potentially a $500 million year for Dak Prescott? I think last night everybody on earth was thinking it. I didn't want to say it because Andy Dalton, this is his first game as a starter there. But if it looks like that for, what, the next four or five games, Jerry Jones might try to cut that franchise tag off in the middle of the season because he's on IR and negotiate a 45-year deal. Because that Dallas Cowboys offense was breaking all types of passing records.

They were breaking a lot of records. They weren't winning games, but they were breaking offensive efficiency records all over the place. Last night, they couldn't do a damn thing. Not a damn thing. They scored a touchdown at the end, and everybody's pissed. Like, yeah, just get me out of here. Let's end this game as much as we possibly can. They showed Stephen and Jerry Jones up in the thing. They got problems,

but if I had a guess, I would say that Dak Prescott, T's and P's, by the way, for your rehab and recovery after that gruesome injury, I would assume he was laid up somewhere. He probably had by the way for your rehab and recovery After that gruesome injury I would assume he was laid up somewhere Probably had his leg up like you under here He was watching that game And he was probably pulling for the Cowboys

Biggest fan right Has a lot of friends on that team You're obviously going to pull for your friends And then whenever it started to struggle There was somebody in the proximity of Dak Prescott That said these sorry motherfuckers O you $600 million, maybe $700 million. And I would assume Dak being the gentleman, he's, hey, don't say that probably. You know, like, hey, don't say that.

But that whole conversation started leaking into the internet and then into everybody's minds because what that offense looked like last night versus what it has looked like with Dak, even though they haven't been winning games for whatever reason, was just night and day. And maybe they don't be able to turn it around. Maybe they won't. But it sure looks like that Cowboys team is dead. It really does feel that way. All the boys

are here. There's some breaking news that we have to talk about here. At Tone Diggs, not a bad night for us gambling last night. I think we made a lot of money last night. I felt very good about that. Was it too predictable, almost, of what was going to happen? Sometimes, like, when it is too predictable, you go the other way, kind of like with the Rams and Niners on Sunday night.

But then sometimes you've got to wade through the weeds in the high grass. And you've got to, hey, this predictable one's actually predictable because the Cowboys fucking stink. Cowboys very much stink. And there's a guy that comes on our show every single day. He'll be here in the third hour, Monday through Thursday. A.J. Hawk is here. He picked the Dallas Cowboys to go to the Super Bowl.

That's right. And he is not backed off. And there was a lot of people, by the way, that were like, this could be the Cowboys' year. Because when you look at them on paper, you're like, okay, this team, talented, whatever it is. Just for some reason down there. So I'll go Jason Garrett. Okay. Blame the clapper. Clap, clap. Clap, clap, whatever it is, just for some reason down there, saw what Jason Garrett, okay, blame the clapper.

Clap, clap, clap. Here you go, boys. Come on, boys. Hey, guys, we're losing. Hey, guys, we're losing really bad. Big smile. We could fucking win a game or two. That would be cool.

All right, guys. We suck again, but Jason Garrett, that's what he was known for. Oh, yeah. Being the smiling, clapping guy. And he can't win a game. Can't do this. Can't do that. Then you bring in Mike McCarthy, and it just seems like, all right,

is it the coaches or is it the X, the common denominator? Oh, got to look at the denominator. Got to look at the common denominator. And it feels like, are the Cowboys just an organization that can't win? Are they becoming an organization that's like the Detroit Lions, but a little bit better? You know, like a little bit better. But shiniere.

But cursed. Yeah, a little bit shinier. Similar color scheme. Are they cursed in Thanksgiving? Are they cursed? Yeah. Is it the Thanksgiving curse? Thanksgiving curse.

Oh, jeez. Oh, my God. Here we go. Oh, my God. Wow. Anyways, we'll cover that later. But it does feel like the Cowboys just can't win. And if you're Dak Prescott, you watch that game last night,

you're like, all right, they're going to owe me a lot of fucking money. That's what that sounds like. And who knows who's going to want to go there. But that was a bad, bad showing for the Cowboys. And I don't think it's going to get any better. I don't think it's going to get any better. I think it's going to get worse, potentially. Or Andy Dalton just starts lighting it up,

starts slinging it all over the place, and they can figure figure it out but that defense is going to put up a record and it's not the record that you want to be known for if you're on the dallas couple and with all this being said they're still in first place in the division yeah the field yates uh super intelligent man who grew up uh like one town over from boston connor who looks incredible today oh thank you you look fantastic as well pinky Pinky ring, I see. Whoa. Wow, look at that thing. Yeah, I got a new pinky ring.

You know, I've always wanted a pinky ring. Yeah. You know, just want to let her. Growing up in Pittsburgh, you were around a lot of Italians. Of course. A lot of Italians. I'm sorry, by the way. Whoa.

Don't laugh at that. You can't. No. I mean, what are we doing here? No, that wasn't funny. No, I was just, you know, know because you were the only irish kid i apologize that you were alone in that i was normally good heritage i was normally the only irish human in the area okay that was just kind of and i don't think all of pittsburgh's like that obviously just every single part that

i've ever been around it feels like that is how it goes yikes and i always saw you know pinky rings on pretty awesome human beings like pretty entertaining humans well established and i was well yeah just entertaining like the life that they live is just an entertaining one like high-ranking individual yes that human is a very entertaining human right there nobody knows how or why he is doing the things that he's doing but this human's hilarious and always very nice to me by the way i've always been treated very nicely by the Italians. Always. Literally always. At Nick Marotto.

Have the Italians, I feel like you guys have always been very welcoming to my Irish ass and to the Italian community. We have, but you're walking a fine line these past couple years. No, no, no. No, no, no. I did 23 and me, dude.

I'm.99% Italian. Don't you take anything I've ever said and hold it against me, by the way. Because I was speaking as an Italian man. So, partially. I think you're at 1% now of the amount of pizza you've eaten throughout the last couple years. Thank you. I appreciate it.

A lot of New York pizza. The ring and chain moving up a little bit. What does that make you, Z? Oh, I'm 100% Italian. Yeah. Hell yeah. But anyways, I always saw a hilarious just yelling into a microphone right there. For no reason.

It was awesome. But I always saw like a pinky ring and i was like those things are awesome high school i wanted one did not have the pedigree to be wearing one now i'm at the point where i have a ring on i was never so now i'm wearing a ring it's like i feel like i'm i'm in i'm okay with rings on my fingers we never was before i'm okay with it now so i had a conversation with me i like think pinky i think it's time for a pinky ring and here we are day one my wife got this for me on amazon prime day oh six seven bucks probably very nice of her thanks buzzers but now shout out the that's some bitch i think he made like 40 billion just on prime day or whatever

the uh he sold a lot of these rings i would assume he probably has one yeah i don't mind it this is the first morning with it We'll see how it goes I'm not 100% sure Has your daily routine changed with that ring on? So I was a house of cards I was a house of cards watcher, you know? Oh, yeah, yeah

And Frank Underwood used to do the double knock on the thing Oh, that's great I found myself doing that, I don't know, 13 to 14 times this morning already Might as well I was about to leave the house this morning Had a fruit smoothie there sitting there. And I grabbed it and I go to Sam. She was sitting at the dining room table or whatever and I was in the kitchen.

And I go, have a great day this morning. And she goes, what the fuck was that? I was like, presidential shit. You know what I mean? Everyone had to do it. So I think that is really what I've liked about it. It's not too big. I think we could go a little bit more aggressive with it.

Get some diamonds on there. It's a status symbol. And this could potentially change my gambling. I'm very hot right now. We have a show called Hammer Don that comes out of our office, and it is a gambling podcast, obviously. Tony Diggs hosts it. Myself, Bubba Gumpino, our Canadian friend,

and Michael L lombardi former general manager in the nfl uh just a genius when it comes to football we're all on it and it's monday thursday friday and i'm 24 and 11 what i don't know i don't know if there's anybody else that speaks into microphones on a regular basis that is anywhere near that and i'm not saying that it's like a skill by any means i mean yesterday the cardinals double digit win yeah i had a feeling that just slapped me in the face and i was like well here we go and i also talked to ty about this earlier i have this thing where if my gut says to do something like i'm not smart enough to like say like oh let's think about the other side of it

and it's kind of it's helped and it has hurt yesterday when that feeling just hit me that the car in the middle of nowhere you can actually see it hit me in the middle of the show when it hit me that the cardinals were going to win by double digits i was like yep here we go it's going to happen so i'm riding a heater right now for whatever reason and it is going to turn but at 24 and 11 i'm feeling damn good and if this pinky ring makes me even better somehow now we're talking and i think that is what a pinky ring does it makes you better at sports gambling immediately upon happening well the nice thing about you is you're a confident human being so when your gut tells you to do something like oh my gut's right like when my gut tells me to do something like oh you're a fucking idiot that's never gonna happen

oh so you're fading your gut yeah normally throughout your entire life that's why you are a gut gambler and i'm more of a numbers gambler because i don't trust myself at all that is very true i've learned that in this gambling world because there's a lot more because sports gambling is becoming much more prevalent in the sports world, whether people like it or not. Like back in the day, it was something, you know, wasn't a lot to be talked about on TV. But now it's becoming legalized and a lot of people are doing it for fun. And although there is some downside and there are people just like anything on earth can take it to an extreme and maybe potentially ruin the image of the entire. Sports gambling is a lot of fun.

Like it just makes sports so much better and i think everybody's realizing that including states as more and more become legalized and the business is obviously good for everybody but i think like whenever you talk about sports gambling everybody has these algorithms and these these theories and they like do the math and i would assume that's what the sports books are doing because it makes no sense how accurate they are and a lot of different shit. It's like, how did they do that? And if they're not time traveling, how'd they do it? I don't even want to hear those things.

And that is problematic from what I've been told. I've been told that by the people that are professional gamblers that have these algorithms, that the feel thing is only good for so long. Well, I'm going to tell you, don't give a fuck. I'm in the middle of it right now. And I feel very good.

At Boston Conner, the Patriots potentially dead. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Slow down. I mean, you know, it is what it is. We can't get lost in every week. We've got to move on to the Niners. But if we go two and four, it's going to be very difficult to be happy every single day. Well, here's the thing about the Patriots is now you have a new quarterback in the division.

It is officially two a time down in Miami. That news broke moments before we came live. The people, the fine folks at Sirius said that Adam Schefter broke that news first. Not 100% sure. I want to make sure I credit everybody that I saw talk about it. Every insider that talks about football had this news on their Twitter account. I don't know who had it one minute faster than anybody else. And I apologize for not having the utmost

respect for the fucking insider game, but I want to thank all the insiders for getting this information because teams won't have released this probably until next week. So shout out to all the insiders, and I don't know which one to thank. I think it's Schefter, but not 100% sure. It is two a time. Going into a bye week, coming off of two big wins, coming off Ryan Fitzmagic

looking better than he's ever looked after dominating the New York Jets. They have a bye week. It it is to a time he had two passes in the fourth quarter late last weekend one man back at the end zone where he rolled out of the pocket hit somebody on and out then another one over the middle Tua is a guy that everybody's wondering is he gonna be a dude in the NFL those two passes look magical but they were playing against the Jets third and fourth string, and the Jets are already a second, third string team. So you do the math, that's fourth, fifth string human beings, or football

players, probably first class human beings, but fourth or fifth string football players over there in New York. Will he be able to carry that on to become a guy? We all thought that there was a chance, like week 11-ish, that he would come on, because that's when he hit a series of teams that aren't that great. Instead, I would assume in the building, I would assume Ryan Fitzmagic knew this as well. The thought was bye week, which is in the middle of the season,

damn near. Ryan, you get them here and then Tua will take over. And maybe Ryan didn't know that and maybe Tua didn't know that. But this feels like since they're going into the bye week, that every checkbox that needed to be checked in their eyes, either in practice, in the building, and then maybe those two reps that he got in the game last week against the dying Jets, every single checkbox was like, okay, if he checks all these boxes, if he's attentive in a meeting room, if he's doing well in practice,

if he works his ass off behind closed doors, that we've all heard that he does, but if he does that, if he looks like he's still mobile and can move after a devastating hip injury just a year ago, if he can do all these things, we think bye week is the time. This was obviously a plan. So a lot of people are saying, you're coming off two wins for Ryan Fitzmagic.

Why would you do that? The AFC East is still open. The Dolphins could make a play for her. And I would assume the Dolphins say, well, we had this plan all along. It didn't matter what we were. Kind of like Kevin Costner on draft day, no matter what, do this. I wonder if that's what they're doing.

It sucks for Ryan Fitzmagic, which they could probably trade, by the way, right now to maybe a team we saw last night in the Dallas Cowboys. Maybe, people are saying this, I'm not saying this, maybe to the Cleveland Browns. Imagine if he goes to that team. Imagine if he went there. I think Diggs was the one that said that.

It would be an upgrade, yeah. And Diggs, by the way, wouldn't want that, by the way, because he's in the Pittsburgh Steelers, AFC North, but he does potentially hate Baker Mayfield, because he is a Steelers fan. So there's a lot of places Ryan Fitzmagic could potentially move to because he was playing great football, by the way, inspired football. And I think he's 37 years old or something like that,

and he has a bunch of accolades that people have gone through. He's a legend, obviously. Still has a lot of football left. Still feels like he wants to play. I just think the time to move to Tua is going to be an interesting one. Because if he goes out there and shits the bed for the next four, five games, because he's a young guy, he's a rookie. You saw it happen with Joey Burrow.

You saw it happen with Herbert here. It doesn't matter. When you're a rookie, he's a rookie you saw it happening with joey burrow you saw it happen with herbert here it doesn't matter when you're a rookie there's a chance you could struggle if you're a dolphin kyle van noy anybody else that are veteran that are winning these games and still in it and then you guys are like okay now we have to go through the rookie stuff i would be intrigued by that i would be very intrigued to see how they'll handle it and be like no we're playing for the future with our guy even though we're potentially still in it right now but on the flip side in a positive fashion if he comes out and dominates who gives a fuck it's to his team keep it moving gumpy is from north left canada diehard dolphins fan are you pumped by this decision or not as a dolphins fan for 35 years pat i can't say this very often i am fucking excited okay so you're pumped about this. Their schedule did change, though.

Their bye week was supposed to be week 11. So this just pushed things up a bit. Okay, in week 11, they were going bye week and then into some bad teams. Now, because they had to change the schedule because of COVID, which I completely forgot about, they got bye week, and then they got Aaron Donald next week. Yikes. So, I mean, we are going to learn quickly about Tua here

when he's going against this Rams defense. Jalen Ramsey's over there as well, by the way. Aaron Donald's in there. They've got some other big-time players on that defense. This is going to be quite a test. This is going to be much different than the Jets team. They obviously know that. Now he has two weeks to prepare for him, and let's see how he does. But boy, if you're on that team and you have a chance, it would be a tough pill to swallow to be like, okay, now we're going to roll the dice to see if he's got it or not. But if not now, then when? I guess is the question.

Well, that's what I was wondering. I mean, you just kind of alluded to it. But how do those players think, especially when Van Noy came on and he's singing Fitz Magic and all those guys talk about how much they love and respect him, they wouldn't be privy to this decision, would they? No. They wouldn't know that. Well, maybe they would, though.

I don't know. It may be because he came on, what, after week three or whatever? Yeah. He came on after week three and he he was like, it was cool. But right now it's all about Fitzmagic or whatever. So maybe, I don't know. I would assume that the coaching staff and the organization, they all had this idea and this plan of the bye week.

Bye week gets moved up, two-game win streak. Did he do enough in those two plays and in practice to be like, yeah, let's pull the hot hand and let's put to it it's not like he was playing like mitchell trubisky right yeah exactly you know what i mean when they when they benched mitchell trubisky he was an undefeated quarterback it wasn't like he was playing great football and i'm not saying ryan fitzmagic is playing great football but he's playing good football oh yeah very good football and it's like now we got to keep it moving dog all right we got to get to a break.

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Ladies and gentlemen, A.J. Hawk. Aaron James Hawk, how's it going, pal? Feels good to be on the other side of your Dallas Cowboys at this particular moment, pal. You know what? It always feels good to wake up in first place, and that's what I'm about. But there was a moment last night, Pat. There was a moment in the game where I had to sit there and think to myself, I might have to start to begin to be worried about my Dallas Cowboys victory. But then all of a sudden I went online, I checked the standings, make sure I'm still – I confirm it.

Okay, hey, good to go. We're still in first place, guys. Let's keep it moving. And before we get to Aaron here, which is I assume everybody on earth is excited to hear how this goes. There's people saying he wouldn't show up for this call. There's people saying he would be short, everything like that. There is now messaging coming out of the locker room from the players

through Jane Slater, who works at the NFL Network, that the players do not trust Michael McCarthy with their success, basically. We'll talk about that later. Now, joining us is a man who is a Super Bowl champion. A man who's been at the top of the NFL for 13 years. A man who's won an MVP, a guy who's been playing football better than he's ever played football in the two-time MVP winner. A man who has been playing football

better than he's ever played before. Like a fine wine, this handsome man is getting better and better and better. 4,000 touchdowns on the season. Handful of interceptions, just less than three. Ladies and gentlemen, Aaron Rodgers! Yeah!

Aaron, how's it going? I didn't think it was going to go like that. What did you think it was going to be like, pal? You thought I was just going to dump on you? The internet's been doing that already. I don't need to do that to you. I expected from AJ, but maybe not from you.

Let's talk about the game, shall we? Is there any situation, because this is what happened to me. You have a bad game out of nowhere. Can't explain why. For you, for the Green Bay Packers team, did you go into that game with a feeling that there could be problematic or wasn't until everything started to unravel in the game that you were like oh we're in one of these games that happens during an nfl season yeah i mean i think you don't really go in thinking it's going to be a rough one i think it was more uh you know, they played good on defense. Our first two drives, I think, were an anomaly compared to the entire game.

You know, we scored on both those drives, but it wasn't very efficient, I don't think. You know, as opposed to the first four games, we had a lot of off-schedule plays. There were not a lot of, you know, on-time throw opportunities. And I think that was due to a lot of the coverages and pressures they played and also the pass rush you know which was which was formidable so they deserve credit for that good plan by uh by Todd and their defense they executed really well and we obviously had a rough one on offense yeah I guess it's up to sorry Pat I'm zoomed in again I can't see everything Aaron are you uh when I watch you and Indomitian Sioux play each other,

it reminds me of the old throwback days when Brett Favre would be jawing back and forth with Warren Sapp. Is it a similar situation there? I'm not exactly sure what Favre and Sapp were talking about, but it hasn't been cordial over the years between me and Sioux. You know, we've had some battles over the years. He, I think I mentioned it, he got, you know, frozen feet and didn't realize he was stepping on my calf.

He also stomped on one of my teammates at one point. He's been, you know, in my time, one of the most dominant three techniques in the game for so many years. He's also played his own way. You know, it's been his style that he's played since he got in the league. You know, and that leads to some interesting conversations throughout the years. Yeah, let's talk about those interesting conversations because I am no master lip reader, but they were zoomed in on your face the entire game. I don't know if you got a chance to watch back the TV copy. You need to know that every facial expression you make throughout the game is being documented

at about this particular closeness right and they were trying to catch what you and sue were saying to each other does it start out as like hey good to see you again and then as the game went on it got worse and worse or is that immediate like hey oh it's great it's you again is that the entire conversation with old and dominican sue well i mean look it's i't think it's a, it doesn't start off as super cordial and goes the other way. I think most of the time it maybe goes the other way. It starts a little hostile

and then might ease up as the game goes on. Not always the case. I mean, there's been some, I remember, you know, 2014 we were playing them. That's when the last game of the year was who was going to be the two seed was who was going to be the two seed and who was going to be the five seed i think it was we're playing them at home i messed my

calf up in the second quarter came back and we beat him at the two minute warning there was some back and forth that was some of the all-time trash talk i mean it was some of the craziest maybe scariest uh most interesting uh you know, two-minute warning conversation that I've been privy to. And that's just kind of how it's been over the years. I mean, you know, we've had obviously great rivalries with the Chicago Bears, Vikings, and the Lions during my time. I would say compared to the other two, it's been maybe a little more hostile against the Lions, and Sue was part of many of those teams.

Hey, if you're thinking of the scariest player to face, I think you may be thinking the same guy I am. Is Kyle Vanenbosch the scariest guy you could ever face? When you look across that line, and is there any good stories you have from maybe him threatening to kill some of our old teammates bro those red contacts i went out on

the captain thing against him and uh shake the hands oh my god i completely forgot about that human's existence did you shit your pants to vandenbosch on a regular basis with endomic ensued down in the three technique as well no i, I didn't have any brown spots on the pants. That's why you're you. You know, just starting off with Kyle, I was always amazed that him and Chad Clifton had some sort of good relationship. I don't know what Cliffy did to get in as good graces. Maybe they both had some sort of Nashville-Tennessee connection.

But for whatever reason, they were always friendly. And Cliffy would always kind of play the game, trying to be nice, nice, buddy-buddy with, you know, some of the rushers. But him and Kyle, for some reason, had like this, you know, really good thing going on. I do remember we were running a Fox protection, which is just like a basic seven-man protection. We were sliding the line, I believe it was to the

right on this play. And I think it was Corey Hall, our fullback at the time, was coming through, and Vanderbosch was on a T-E stun. He looped around from outside his end to the A-gap where Corey was, and he never saw Corey, and Corey

had kind of a same-foot, same-shoulder and knocked him down. And I remember watching the playback, and Kyle, after that happened, didn't care about what was going on in the play. He literally chased down Corey to tell him, I'll kill you. And it was pretty amazing. I remember him getting mad at an offsides we had in like probably 2009 or 10. You've got him offsides. And I remember him yelling that it wasn't him.

It was Sue, actually, that, you know, you know, the penalty shouldn't have been on him. He had that, you know, really interesting game voice that was kind of like Christian Bale's Batman. I'm not wearing hockey bags. Yes. And then the red, the red contacts. contacts and you know to his credit he made a living in league being that extra effort hustle guy you would see him i remember watching film and you'd see him 30 hours down the field chasing guys out you know he's looking like kind of like larson in in happy gilmore at times with his running style but he was you know it was he was

super athletic guy and a tough rusher for a long time. And also, you know, definitely, definitely a guy like Tom Crabtree. If there was a zombie apocalypse, you could choose like some current or former players you played with or against. He's probably one of those guys you'd want, you know, on your side. Hey man, Tom Crabtree, by the way, his Scott Stapp impersonations at this point are next level i would recommend following him on the internet um you always have a good relationship with people it feels like and whether it's people respecting you and i think i realized that most whenever you gave your ultimate sucky quote a couple weeks ago on this show you had people from the nba the basketball world that were like aaron rodgers

is that dude like i think you have been a guy that have captivated a lot of athletes. Like, Hey, that's the dude up there. Like that's a guy we appreciate. So now that the younger generation is in the NFL, you see a lot of cordial interactions between you and players. And I would assume a lot of players are like, Hey man, big fan. I'm assuming that people would say that's you on the field and you laugh or whatever. So seeing you and Ndamukong Su still get into it in 2020, I think was a big storyline on the air. It's like, yo, this guy gets along with everybody. Have you guys ever seen each other off the field? Is it just strictly on the field where there's an awkwardness amongst each other?

And have you ever run into each other off the field? I haven't run into each other off the field. You know, I know that he's done a bunch of investing with Warren Buffett, I believe. Yeah, who eats McDonald's every morning, by the way. Warren Buffett. Warren Buffett. The same sandwich every morning. McDonald's?

Yeah. Yeah. It's a sausage McMuffin, I believe, is his go-to. He's doing business now in 2020 America. Jeez. Which is a whole other conversation. Could get into it if you'd like. You know, to be honest, I'll give you this little tidbit.

After that back and forth, right, you know, the end of the first half, there was a little conversation in the third quarter. And this is where I say sometimes it goes to more, slightly more cordial after a toss-out. I was under the impression that we were going to have a conversation after the game. It was one of those, hey, you're old, I'm old, let's, you know, let's talk some things out

i don't know if he ran off the field after the game or what i didn't see him after the game that you know through mutual friends i've heard that uh you know there's been talk about uh you know talking business at some point obviously he has some acumen based on his relationship with warren i mean he must um But we haven't had those conversations. On the field, I would say it's still a little contentious. So what was the conversation there? Were you setting up a date after the game to see each other? Yeah, I mean, I'm not sure if – there might have been some loss in translation

whether or not he was talking about the see you at the bus conversation. I thought it seemed more like hey uh let's have a little you know come to jesus moment i'm not sure maybe it was maybe he was thinking i see at the bus or maybe he was thinking uh come to jesus maybe i was thinking see at the bus and that's what he thought or maybe i was thinking oh this is awesome. It was a lost in translation for sure. I was looking forward to that conversation. I didn't know how it was going to go. I didn't think it was going to, you know, like, look, I'm not going to fight in number two.

For me, I'm fully aware of that. But after all these years playing together, I just, you know, we've never had that conversation. I think it'd be interesting. I think he's an interesting guy on the field, I can't say I'm a huge fan. Man, scumbag on the field. That's just because we've battled for so many years and there's been some interesting moments. Wait, so what – okay, can you walk me through that?

What does that sound like when you talk during a game? Like, hey, man, let's hash this thing out. Let's have a little therapy session together, which it seems like he took as, okay, I'm going to be waiting outside your locker room to fight, but they must have pulled him away due to COVID protocols. Have you ever done that with any other player before? That's where it's like a text message sometimes.

You can't necessarily always infer tone and body language and everything. So basically he said, don't be scared. And I said something back to him. And then I said something to the effect of, you and I need to have a conversation or something. And then he said something like, all right, see you after the game. And I said, all right. And he said, and, but the tone and the inference, we don't know, quite tell if I was thinking, Hey, let's just, I didn't have to dap it up necessarily, but let's

say, let's just have a three minute conversation. You say your piece, I'm going to say my piece. And then you just fucking move on, you know? I i didn't and i don't think he realistically thought i was saying hey let's uh let's throw down oh man could you imagine if you look at him go i'll see you after the game and he's like really really ask your calf how that's gonna end up for your face i'm like i wish he would have said that uh let's talk about the game a little bit, though. The first pick you had to Devontae there, pick six, the first one you've had in maybe 45 years of being a

starting quarterback in the NFL. As soon as that leaves your hand, do you know? That thing was, you're off by this much, pick six. If not, reception, first down. Completely different game at that point. As soon as that leaves your hand, do you know? Yeah. I've been about halfway there i was realizing that i missed my spot by about a foot and i was hoping he would he would drop it um it says poor connection you guys still got me yeah you look amazing still i mean it's probably on our side if I had to guess. But you look great. I got all the bars here. We're good to go.

Well, Wisconsin. Yeah, but I've had three of those pick sixes in my life, two in Tampa. Huh. What is it? I don't know. Probably that turf. Oh, yeah. Let's blame the turf.

I like that. The grass is bad, so the ball is a little foot behind. Like, that's just the way it goes. That's awesome. No, I just, so the ball is a little foot behind. Like, that's just the way it goes. That's awesome. No, I just, you know, it's unfortunate, one of those unfortunate coincidences. But, hey, look, you know, the kid after the game said, Devontae motioned from the field to the boundary. He runs outbreakers all game.

So, you know, that's something we just obviously got to do a better job of self-scouting. Obviously, that third and – it was third and ten, third and nine in that situation. You know, sometimes there's better things. There's a lot worse things than letting, you know, the Pat McAfees and the understudies of the legend that you are come out and punt the ball away. Oh, yeah, thank you.

You know, and with a kick, right? Yeah, and with a kick. I always want to have an extra point, field goal, or punt. That's smart football, and that's how you make it in the NFL. Yep, thanks, Pat. Hey, Aaron, how weird is it that every DB you play against, I mean, everyone is going to be younger now, you've been doing it for so long, that it legit makes their whole life if they get a pick off you,

let alone a pick six? Frame it. It's a compliment, obviously. Yeah, I mean, look, I've been playing a long time. There hasn't been, you know, a ton of those opportunities. I understand, you know, it's a little different picking off of, you know, Brady or Breeze or Roethlisberger, you know, some of the guys have been doing it for a long, long time.

Roethlisberger, you know, some of the guys have been doing it for a long, long time. I haven't thrown a lot of, you know, clean ones, you know, where it's just a guy makes a good play and picks the ball off over the last few years. You know, there's been a lot of deflections, stuff like that. So that was the first one in a while that was just like, you know, a really good play by him, a good break on the ball, and the ball was obviously, you know, really good play by him, good break on the ball, and the ball was obviously, you know, inside about a foot of where it needed to be. Two feet would have been for sure probably an incompletion. A foot would have been a 50-50 catch.

And that's the beauty and the frustration sometimes in the league is it all comes down to a matter of a few inches sometimes. The next one was a deflection, which is what you just alluded to, by the way, with a clean pick. You don't have a lot of a few inches sometimes the next one was a deflection uh which is what you just alluded to by the way with a clean pick you don't have a lot of those davante got broken up great play by the way people are saying potentially pass interference but that's not talked about but it was a great play it gets picked off then i heard the commentators i forget was it joe and troy i forget who it was joe and troy said when you're a quarterback and that happens you can be off a little bit and then like maybe you're kind ofshy or trying to force it a little bit.

Does that happen naturally for anybody that's quarterback? Or do you think that it was just the pressure and everything else that potentially changed the way you were throwing the rest of the game? No, no, I don't think it had anything to do with that. I mean, I've been around a long time and played a lot of football. That kind of stuff doesn't affect you. We were definitely more affected by the pressure and the rush and the fact that we just didn't uh you know we didn't throw and catch

it well and get open and move the sticks uh consistently enough with the next drive you know had a chance to mercedes down the middle and missed him by about you know four inches on about a 30 yard play and we're just that's the thing. I was off. We were just a little bit off, you know, the entire day. Credit, you know, is due to them kind of disrupting some of the stuff that we want to do. But we talk about it a lot. You know, our biggest opponent often is ourselves. And just doing the little things, we had a lot of correctable mistakes

in the game. But that's the difference between, you know, a blowout and a tight game against a good opponent. You know, I spotted him 14 points after being ahead 10-0, and then we did nothing. The next drive, we had a chance for a big play to get back in the game, missed it. Next thing you know, they scored a couple touchdowns,

and you're down by, you know, two scores, three scores, and then obviously four scores when you don't really put anything together. And that was kind of our day on Sunday. But I truly believe it was more of an anomaly than some sort of trend. I mean, we've been so consistent on offense the first four weeks. And still, you look at where we're at after five games, we're 4-1. We've only turned the ball over twice in five games. Woo!

Let them know! Let them know, Aaron! No, I mean, I'm just, you know, Pat, my trend on this show is just spitting the facts. Yes. That's right. Do you think, okay, and I did question this on the internet, do you think the football gods potentially, okay,

and I'm not saying definitely, I'm just saying potentially here, do you think it was the three pumps that potentially got you into deep shit with the football gods aaron did you think about hingel mccringleberry potentially coming back and bite me in the ass whenever you're stroking it you know you ever think about that i think that's the wrong way to go pat i think you cannot associate that those two things together when you start doing that, you question every single celebration in your life. You, of all people, a man who has celebrated as much as anybody at your position, you must realize whether necessary or unnecessary.

The celebrations have no correlation in that sense. Now, there has been a couple of guys. I'm just saying what people were saying this people saying it wasn't me yeah i think when you mock somebody else celebration all celebration laws and rules are off because there's been guys who have mocked celebrations and gotten hurt in the process i think it's you know that's something you maybe don't want to do. I was definitely not mocking McRingleberry at all. It was an ode of love. And the sad part about it

is addressing that rule, which makes no sense to me. Like, I understand the giving yourself up part in the field of play. But as I'm going to the end zone, 0% of me is giving myself up. Now, if that is the case case then am i not a protected player at that point again not a penalty that i want i do not want a protected penalty

like i'm not an advocate for that rule but you can't have it both ways right you can't have it i'm giving myself up but then also uh i'm a non-protected player at that point yeah you took a big shot you took a big shot in that yeah you know who that was from right who winfield jr oh wow i had a fun conversation with him i mean he's a he seems like a really great kid and i enjoy watching him play and uh i went over and tapped him on the helmet and said, like your dad, definitely in my hands, played the game the right way. He was a little dude who packed a punch, and he was athletic enough to play as an outside corner and an incredible nickel. And, yeah, that's who kind of gave me that rib shot,

which is still a little sore today, but I was pretty bummed out when they, we had to go back on the field. I'm happy for Jonesy and all fantasy owners who had Aaron Jones. Smart. That's very nice of you to think like that. A lot of people would say you'd be too selfish to think like that. Sidebar. What, um, what glass of, uh, great question for plastic. Yeah. I don't care about the oceans, but what, what, um, Bro, I'm not using a straw, bro. Keep the fucking turtles out of my life, dude. What's that?

What number green tea is that for you? So this is number two, but I'm happy you mentioned it because I got a scotch glass here. I saw your interview. What's that? Who went out and got that for you? That's the real question. Oh, it gets delivered here.

Come on, it's 2020, bro. Have a little respect for fucking DoorDash. Anyways, no free ads. That day saved my life. You said in the interview that you would add an extra finger to your scotch drink or whatever and i'm not privy to the scotch drinkers a finger is just what just one finger this way or this way yeah like this bro or this so what do you normally do three yeah i mean like two or three is is pretty good so did you do four on sunday you did a full fucking glass?

Bro, we got home way too late, man. It was a long night. We didn't get home. I didn't get home until like 1140. By that time, I was ready for bed. Look at how much scotch that is. Is that what you did? Jeez.

It's not that much. That's four fingers, dude. You said you normally do three. That's four right there. But you have those fat sausages. Oh, yeah. I am Irish, by the way. I do have fat fingers.

Hey, Aaron, so are you telling us here on the show that you did the three-pump celebration to shed light on a rule that you feel like should be changed? No, I didn't obviously know about the rule change when i was doing it i'd say that the most uh the biggest crisis of conscience that i had during the game was after i ran it in i didn't realize that a couple of my teammates felt like the shot was unnecessary from from winfield and so i looked over and i was ready to do the the three pumps and nobody was around me but then i looked to my left and my brother tim boyle my backup was running down there to play the referee and so i said i'm gonna go for it even

though no one else is around me i'm just gonna go for it tim Even though no one else is around me, I'm just going to go for it. Tim's here. So I just battled through, you know, the pain in my ribs just to give some joy to the world. Hey, I noticed Boyle coming down there. I realized later he was coming down to be the referee. Shouldn't that have been a penalty? You can't leave the bench to come down and celebrate with you. It was happening last night, by the way. Patrick Peterson ran 65 yards into the end zone to celebrate. If this is something the NFL is letting up on, I'm a big fan of, by the way.

Because as a punter, I would have been sprinting down the sideline with people celebrating touchdowns. Well, look, I believe that the rule is if you're in uniform, you can. If you're not in uniform, you're not supposed to. uniform you can if you're not in uniform you're not supposed to because there was some video that league sent out about the celebration rule that we talked to the referees about before the year and i believe that was a point of emphasis who knows there was also a point of emphasis about illegal contact and if you watch the game last night the the Cowboy game, I'm not sure how that interception by Dre is not illegal contact. It seemed like that's kind of the rule.

The whole world is talking about you saying that your team needed a kick in the ass. I mean, that is the big hot-button topic of your press conference. The world is talking about that. The world is talking about it. I mean, it was literally Aaron Rodgers said that the team needed a kick in the ass. Does Aaron Rodgers not think he should look in the mirror and maybe kick his own ass? A lot of people were saying out there, obviously, the people were waiting for you to have a bad game.

And you know who the people were. The people that you have addressed on this show, they were waiting for you to have a bad game. But the team needed a kick in the ass. Do you just think everybody was getting kind of too comfortable and had to bye week and had a chance to soak it in? Hey, we're very, very good good is that what you meant by that i mean i think we all need that a little bit when the complacency starts starts to sink in

and you start kind of feeling yourself a little bit it's always good to kind of get knocked down a little bit and look it happens i mean i like to to deny that it happens is is to deny the reality of uh dealing with success i mean we all deal with it from some level. Yourself, too. You've got to be careful, you and the boys. When you start climbing too high, you've got to remember what it took to get to that point. And I feel like we just, you know, we came into the season, not an unknown, but not many people talking about us, even though we were 13-3 in an NFC championship. Then we went four games games pretty convincingly,

and people are like, they're the best team in the NFL. Well, you got to play like it every week if you want to be the best team in the NFL. Myself and our squad didn't, and I think it can be a good thing. I'm not saying, look, nobody wants to lose to know figure things out but you also can find ways to positively move forward from uh difficult situations we got our butts kicked you know i think it's it's something that we can learn from people want to you know take anything you say and you know then those people can make a win-win out just about just about anything that can fit a narrative. That's fine.

But, look, I stand by the things that I say, and I feel like that we can use this as a positive and a reminder when we start climbing that hill again that, you know, consistency is the most important thing. And great teams have consistent habits. And so we've got to keep doing the things that got us to 4-0 uh in order to get back to where we want to be here here huh yeah here here oh boy what's going on man yeah ty what do you got uh aaron bakhtiari went down on sunday i'm not sure if you've heard anything about his condition but if he does end up missing an extended period of time is there any way to replace him on the line um yeah you'd replace him with somebody else there

ty next man up figure it. Figure it out, Ty. We got our butts kicked. That was such a media question from you. I want you protected, pal. I'm tired of seeing you take in the shins. I was worried, you know, and Dominick and Sue was going to step on your neck on Sunday. No, you know, I was proud of Rick. You know, Rick has played a number of positions for us now.

Obviously, both tackles. He's worked at times at guard. He's a guy who's been a pro for a long time. Obviously, it was tough. You never want to see your all-pro let tackle go down. But a lot of people, nobody's feeling sorry for it. I mean, look at around the league. There's a ton of injuries.

Various teams are really dealing with it, maybe even more than other teams. But that's kind of been one of the trends from this season so far is a lot of major guys have gone down with injuries. And you just got to find a way to keep competing. And there's not going to be any excuses or people feeling bad for you if you're not winning. So we're going to have to, you know, find a way to still be efficient. We've done it in years past. You know, we've played a game with a center and four guards before on the offensive line, two of those guards obviously playing tackle.

So we've been able to find a way over the years. And if Dave can't go, then, you know then we'll make sure Rick feels as comfortable as possible and find a way to get it done. Takatari went out of the game with what was listed as an upper body. That's all they told us. What's his name? What's his name, AJ? Justin Takatari.

It goes back a long way. Just upper body, right, Aaron? I wanted you to comment on injury. I figured you were going to say he's got an upper body. I did laugh when I saw chest or upper body. You know, it is interesting how injuries are

talked about and reported. I laugh from time to time when the nfl talks about you know gambling policies obviously there's some sort of association with many of the sites but the whole reason for um you know an injury report i would assume is so lines can be set i mean pat you'd probably be able to tell me if that was not the not the case or not no it's definitely it yeah you know there's been different coaches over the years who've handled the injury reports, you know, with maybe more detail or less detail, depending on what team they've been on. I'm not sure what Dave's status is.

I haven't seen him since the plane. He was definitely dealing with some discomfort. But if I know Dave, he's going to do everything he can to get out there and play we've joked with him about times but not having the best pop-up game in the business you know where you kind of get popped and maybe hang on the ground for a little bit i'm not saying i have the best pop-up game either i feel like at times it's really good at times you know i kind of take a little break on the ground um it reminds me of a great story of uh one of my all-time favorite team is johnny jolly who during a drive one time was was kind of on the ground and and you know his injury time out and the guys went out there and the trainers go man what's going on you okay he's like

i'm just tired but i think uh i think dave i think dave will be uh he'll do everything he can to try and play this week uh the floor i feel like you and the floor have a much different relationship than you and uh big mike had and i don't know if you got a chance to watch the games last night big mike is entrenched in battle right now with everybody there's quotes coming out from the locker room that he's not prepared and they don't trust him and blah blah blah all this stuff would it be difficult to go from the floorleur to Mike McCarthy? Like the Dallas Cowboys are going from Jason Garrett,

who seems to be the clapper, upbeat all the time, to Mike McCarthy. If you had to talk, not that you want to speak on their situation because you're not in the locker room, but if you had to go from LaFleur to McCarthy, do you think that would have been a difficult transition or no? Look, I don't know. I mean, every coach has their personality. I think at the core, there's a lot of similarities between, you know, between coaches. I think

you never want to, to, to hear the inside sources or if somebody from the inside or somebody going on, not, not going on the record, these anonymous quotes or whatever, you don't ever want any of those things uh as far as i know what the facts are today they're in first place in the division first place in any division regardless of your record assures you a home playoff game yeah we won a division in 2013 at eight seven and one had to win our last one to get a home playoff game. So, you know, that division obviously has been a little down this year with I think Philly's won four and one, and the other two teams are one and five. You know, but they still have a lot of games against each other.

The long season, obviously losing Dak doesn't help because he was off to one of the greatest starts in history as far as like the amount of yards he was passing for and the efficiency, you know, that tragic injury. But Mike, he knows how to deal with any type of adversity. You know, we went through ups and downs at the time, mostly ups in Green Bay. But I know Mike knows how to steer those difficult situations. But it doesn't matter who you are, whether it's somebody talking about a player

or a coach, you never want those unnamed sources to come out, that anonymous stuff. I think that's some chicken shit. Yeah, it is rat. Hey, don't be a rat, okay? Just keep these things internally. And in the report, Jane Slater said, initially the players thought they would keep it internally,

but now things are starting to seep out. It's like, Oh, very nice of them for six weeks to decide not to bury their coach publicly. That's a very interesting world to have all those anonymous. You can get away with saying whatever, whenever, however, nowadays it's wild. It's a wild time to be alive. It's a wild time to be alive. Six weeks. I mean, that's just, that's, it's a culture we've talked about on this show, about overreactions.

You know, you're six games in, and you're just one game without your starting quarterback. So, you know, it takes time to find your identity in any season. You're not going to necessarily find it in six games, whether you're 6-0 or 1-5 or 2-4 like they are. And you've got to, on some level, you've got to trust the process and give it time to work itself out. Now, last year, we had to trust the process. Our first six, we were 5-1, but it was different.

Things are different. Schedules are different. Messaging is different. And you just have to embrace the changes and be comfortable in things that make you feel uncomfortable based on your past. And a lot of, look, the other part is half the locker room, maybe more than the locker room, it's the first time doing it. So, you know, they don't know anything different. This is just the NFL to them. They haven't been around other coaches or styles. They have in college but I think you just have to embrace the culture and and that's where the leadership on the on

every team you know has the opportunity to to to lead from the front and you know I would guess that this week there'll be comments from the leaders that you know that clearly talk about the feel of the team just like for us you know coming back from a difficult loss you know it's it's important for us to messaging to uh like mike used to always say listen to your language you know how are you talking about yourself your team your situation your culture because that that's going to talk about the character of the football team. And I look forward to hearing from our guys and staying positive and realistic about where we're at and where we're going.

Golly, that's a good answer there. Hey, that was a really good answer. And by the way, you keep up with everything. You know everybody's fucking record at this point. That's wild. Okay. I didn't even know who we were playing normally whenever weeks like wednesday or thursday i didn't even know who we were playing i'm like i'm just got to kick the ball i don't know what's pat i don't know what you would do on normal day i know you

don't have meetings and stuff for the most part i'm not saying i'm with all due respect um but that's all you know you're also a very cultured you know man of the people you got your chain going on you thank you uh frequent v-neck where i'm sure you had you know what are you what is that you're married now yeah no that's this one here aaron see when you get married it's on the left ring finger the this is a pinky ring aaron because yeah yeah but you know you had other things going going on. I'm sure you had important things, games you were playing, video games probably at times. Cornhole.

Cornhole, yeah. I'm a sniper. Like you, no, like Patrick Mouth. Hold on. Before AJ's question, I have this question. Why don't you think you've done enough for State Farm that they could give you a fucking Rogers rate at this point? Don't you think that you deserve some sort of Rogers rate

at this point for everything you've done for State Farm? That would be nice. It's a mutually beneficial relationship. I have a lot of love for that company and I'm just glad I haven't been completely phased out.

It does feel like that's potentially happened and done that. Do you mind if you take a phone call real quick before we let you go? Yeah, sure, man. Hey, thank you for hanging out today, by the way. People on the internet were tweeting me. By the way, I feel like I got a chance to experience life as Aaron Rodgers on the internet because whenever you

do what Sunday happens, the amount of tweets I got as if I was Aaron Rodgers was just unbelievable. They're like, how do you feel now, fucking McAfee, about Aaron Rodgers Tuesday? It's like, well, I'm actually excited to talk to him because I think this is going to be a cool conversation to have

about how exactly you said sometimes you lose. You just got to move on. Let's go to Frank in Virginia Beach. Frank, what's going on? Hey, Pat. Thanks for having me. Hey, Aaron. How you doing? Hey, Frank. That was nice. Hey, so I have a non-football

related question. So, I know you were an extra in Game of Thrones Season 8. I wanted to get your opinion on how you think the show ended, and if you read the Game of Thrones books or not. Great question. This show will never talk about this again, so let's give a good answer here. the show ended and if you read the game of thrones books or not great question this show

will never talk about this again so let's give a good answer here uh i haven't read the books which i think in some people's uh minds you know cancels me from my ability to freely uh speak my opinion on the subject but being a big fan of the show uh and and a lover of it for many seasons i think many of us were disappointed and confused by the ending yeah how spoiler alert you know we got to the end and someone who never wanted to be called bran he was a three-eyed raven now not only takes his namesake but his control of the world now it's weird uh and then other characters that you really love and appreciate and pull for either die in the you know last few episodes snow like jorah or have like weird endings like the red woman

what is her role in the entire thing i'm sure maybe it spells it out in the books or not but what happened to john snow as well kind of kicked in the dick non-stop you know doesn't get a chance to do anything and then he you know in essence saves somehow the realm from the mad queen and now he gets banished without his lover and real life wife uh you know he's back with the wildings and then you know the unsullied you know are gonna just let somebody kill their queen and just sail off on their own that won't happen that's not that's not their character so many storylines to me just didn't make a lot of sense i i've said it i said it earlier i would have loved if it would have just been hey you know uh xerxes wins okay cool that's the most thrown things ever you know or tyrian gets the throne i mean that would have been super ironically apropos i think but wow jesus the

way it ended i just feel like it left a lot to be desired which one were you do you know which one you were yet a highly unathletic one running ducking i've talked about this way too many times what you still have yet to give us an answer though which one were you because it was one the dragon right the big fucking dragon was blowing all the guy running the guy running duck footed heel first with his arms yeah no cakes weak jaw turned into the alley was that you i think that guy's uh related to aj somehow oh hey i didn't i didn't i don't watch the show but i know when you were on there the clip started going viral it was. It was on the internet. I remember I texted you right away.

This is unbelievable. This isn't me. You've got to be kidding me. You really didn't think that was me, did you? I'm like, yeah. That's you, man. That's your character. Kid does look like you.

Where were you? What did you do? I was in a scene in King's Landing where Arya comes down the stairs. She's leaving after the Hound tells her to get out of town. You don't need all that. And it doesn't make any sense when it's within a sword length of Cersei damn near. They let Cersei have a death with Jaime and all that. I mean, the whole thing is strange.

And what changes when she can have the whole world and she just loses it. Now, everyone's like, oh, well, if you read the book, she's gone crazy earlier. Aaron, it's hard to say that I care. I mean, just tell us where you were in the fucking episode. Will you please? I told you, I'm in the tunnels when Arya is coming down there.

And you have no light? I have a partial face shot. That's about it. This is the last question i have because we have got to this um you do great acting in those state farm commercials i mean you really legitimately do you do great acting will you be an actor one day will you be in movies like peyton by the way can get any commercial he wants right now he could probably get in any movie he wants and i believe you and he are at the top whenever it comes to quarterback chops whenever that whole thing

will you get into acting one day or producing movies or anything like that well i thought about that a lot you know there's there's so many uh you know kind of second career actors who i'd love to model my you know my acting career after um jesse ventura comes to mind you know he's a predator um really really good role in that and you know then he was you know governor as well so there's you know there's guys like that who really you know really kind of figured it out uh you know later in life just they had this gift that they just got to share with the you know with the entire world i'd love to be if there's an Expendables 4. I feel like that's something I could get started in to get my

first acting chops. When you're working alongside guys like Sly and Chuck Norris and Dolph Lundgren, what better actors to learn from? You can't keep up with those guys. I'm sure that's great on those sets.

Bruce Willis, Chet Lee, Jean-Claude Van Damme, actors to learn from. You can't keep up with those guys. I'm sure it's great on those sets. Bruce Willis, Chet Lee, Jean-Claude Van Damme. Rampage Jackson. Rampage. I believe Antonio Banderas was in it. Yeah. You're talking about

the nostalgia of three decades of action movies coming together. i think that could be a good start for me i can't wait for the headlines tomorrow to be that aaron rogers after losing to the tempe buccaneers is able to have a conversation about game of thrones and fucking whatever movie you just talked about right there expendable this is going to be the takeaway i appreciate you expect i mean what'd you expect pat what you expect? Me or from the media people? Yeah.

You put on your media hat. What did you expect? Well, Aaron Rodgers, is he going to make an appearance on the Pat McAfee show on Tuesday? Normally a jovial conversation about football and life with Aaron. And after having struggles on Sunday against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, will he be as open with conversation with Pat and the boys? That is TBD. Then he comes on the show, has a good conversation. Aaron Rodgers doesn't care about losing on Sunday to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. In my head, I would assume that is what a lot of people...

And that's what I'm saying about the win-win, bro. That's why you don't need to fight it, man. Just keep speaking your mind, man. All right, well, win this weekend, will you? Okay. All right, good, win this weekend, will you? Okay. All right, good luck. I appreciate you. Ladies and gentlemen, the man.

And by the way, I don't know if you know this. Last year, you guys lost after the bye week. I believe it was like 28-7 or something. And then you just went on an absolute terror. I would assume you remember that because you know everybody's record at this point in the entire NFL. So I'm excited to watch you kind of. I'm excited to watch the absolute firestorm that's coming from Aaron Rodgers here. I think it was like 38 to 8 or something like that. Might have

been 28 to 7, but yes. It was a rough one, ladies and gentlemen, Aaron Rodgers. Thank you, buddy. Love you, Aaron. Appreciate you, man. Appreciate you, man. Joining us now is a man who is a two-time, two-time Super Bowl champion and one of the greatest fitness coaches in the history of G-Rodges, ladies and gentlemen, Ike Taylor. You're sideways, Ike. Hey, how are you? How's life?

The Pittsburgh Steelers look damn dominant right now. That's got to feel pretty good. Yeah, Pittsburgh looking good right now, bro. Their defense is playing like the defense of old. Their offense, if I'm Big Ben, man, I got so many cars in my garage from Ford trucks to Bugattis to Ferraris. I got everything at my disposal. So, yeah, man, Pittsburgh looking good as 18 right now.

You know, once that weather get cold, that's when the dogs really come out. So, Pittsburgh guys, they built for that cold weather. So, this one, football really starts in my mind. Let's talk about one of the dogs that has shown up who is definitely built for cold weather because he comes from Siberiaberia basically up there in canada mapletron chase claypool this dude the comparisons to calvin johnson you thought would never ever come again because calvin johnson was like an anomaly mapletron seems like he is

potentially the next calvin johnson he's got wiggle too he can go and get it he's got swag he's got wiggle i'm a big chase claypool guy not only because he said he loved coming on the show but because watching him play football is electrifying at this point and he's only a rookie he doesn't even know what he doesn't know yet so you play football so you already know um you already know who's good coming into training camp and when i saw a statement by Joe Hayden in training camp, when he said Chase Claypool is going to be hell for a lot of other teams, I'm like, man, I'm talking, this is coming from a veteran corner who shuts pretty much everybody down he lines up against, who has the understanding and know a dog in the alpha when he sees it.

So as soon as Joe said something,e says something joe hayden said some i said man let me let me get out on this dog so i went back i looked at his his highlights at notre dame i said man he he enjoys blocking what receiver enjoys blocking so when you when you got a receiver not only his height size and speed but a guy who doesn't mind getting dirty man that's just telling you his personality. He's a damn dog, P-Mac. He could have got drafted to a team that needs weapons still to this point, but instead he fell all the way down.

Green Bay, why do you think, after watching his highlights, because I didn't, by the way, Notre Dame is here in the state of Indiana. There's a lot of Notre Dame fans. Obviously, it's on NBC every Saturday night, but I didn't know much about the guy. And then I started watching him when he was with the Steelers. I'm like, this guy's unbelievable. When you watch the highlights from Notre Dame fans. Obviously, it's on NBC every Saturday night, but I didn't know much about the guy. And then I started watching him when he was with the Steelers. I'm like, this guy's unbelievable. When you watch the highlights from Notre Dame, and obviously

now he was overlooked, but why do you think he slid down? Because there was like 45 wide receivers that were basically picked at one point, and I didn't remember his name being in the conversation. Was it because you think of how deep the class was, or is there people just idiots, and Colbert came in and was like, this is the guy right here?

Because he's from Canada. Hockey. It's a hockey town. That's just my personal opinion. Like, if he was from the States, I think they would have gave the man a chance. But I think because he was from Canada, it's like he's not born American bred. But little do they know, man, like the playoff teams, guys, guys who play in the playoffs,

usually I can just go back to the Pittsburgh Steelers and how they drive. Indiana, Antoine Randall, you know, cold weather. Plexico Burris, Michigan State, cold weather. Santonio Holmes out of Ohio State, cold weather. Even an A.B. out of Central State, cold weather. Even an A.B. out of Central Michigan, cold weather. You might get a Mike Wallace from Ole Miss, a Hans Ward from Georgia, a Emmanuel Sanders from SMU. But other than that, man, you're trying to draft guys who know how to play in the cold.

And going to Notre Dame and coming from down to Alaska, this guy Chase Claypool, he knows exactly how to play in the cold. He's more of a dog in the cold than what it is right now. So one thing about Pittsburgh, bro, and one thing I do, when it comes down to wide receivers,

linebackers, offense, and defensive linemen, they don't miss, dog. They do not miss. And I just gave you a few wide receivers. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. So if you're a wide receiver and you want to act up and think you all that in Pittsburgh,

Kevin Coleman and Coach T, like, man, don't even trip, man. I got Deontay. I got Deontay Johnson. I got a James Washington. I got a Juju. Now we got this youngster in the chase. So y'all can act up if y'all want to, but I know what I'm good at.

And that's drafting receivers. But Chase just on a whole nother level, dog. Let's talk about Mike Tomlin because he was asked about, I forget, he was asked something today. I forget exactly what it was about. Going out and getting someone for Devin Bush. Oh yeah, to trade for an inside linebacker because Devin Bush towards ACL, which is terrible.

T's and P's to Devin Bush to the recovery rehab is going to be a pain in the ass. But Mike Tomlin said, I can't see past lunch right now. So Mike Tomlin is very much like Bill Belichick. The way he handles press conferences, same exact way as Bill Belichick, different but same narrative. He's not giving the media a damn thing ever,

and I love it. He never gets talked about in the fashion though of other incredibly successful coaches mike tomlin's that dude and every time he gives an answer that is just a non-answer at all i love it even more because he can do it he wins the guy wins he never gets talked about man coach t has a cage in the facility, meaning he has a small meeting room where all he does is watch tape 24-7. I can't tell you the time Coach T come in the building. I can't tell you the time Coach T leaves the building. I can tell you I have sat in his so-called cage and learned and watched plenty of tape.

so-called cage and learn and watch plenty of tape. I'm talking about from his IQ to the way he breaks it down or makes a person who never even watched football understand less than five minutes. Like, Coach T is locked in. And that's all he know, PMAC. All Coach T know is football. That's all he want to know. That's all he cares about. And just from him coming to the Pittsburgh Steelers and the tradition and trying to hoist Lombardis and all that good stuff, that's all that man want to do. So when he say he can't see past 12 o'clock and it's 11.59,

he really can't see past 12 o'clock. What was he – obviously you got to play some years there with Tom when he was a coach, right? I'm not mistaken there. I can do the math. Whenever he became the head coach, I remember thinking, wow, this came out of nowhere because he was with Minnesota Vikings. I think he was a defensive coordinator. Did not expect it. He gets hired. And then with immediate success or whatever, what was the first, has he changed in

your eyes? Now you're outside the building looking in, but when you were in there, whenever he got in there, has he changed at all? Or has he been this coach since the beginning? He just has known what he is, how he is, and how he operates. I mean, for me personally, Coach T always been like, so Joey Porter was Coach Cowher's guy, you know? Yeah. Ike Taylor was Coach Tomlin's guy. Okay, here we go.

I like that. Coach T was the big brother to me. Like, big bro. Like, hey, Coach. Coach. We can go on for days with these stories. But anyway, Coach T's just always been a player's coach. Coach Cowher was always a player's coach. But he was hard on his coaches.

Coach T was a little bit – Coach T, he's a little bit different. He's a player's coach and he gives his coaches room to coach. If you know what I'm saying. If you don't like what you're doing, he's going to tell you straight up, I don't like it and this is what we're going to do. But for the most part, you get the best of both worlds

with Coach T. Coach T wants, like PMAC, I keep telling you this, you would have loved to be in that locker room. I know. You could have drafted me, too. You could have done it. Bro, we would have embraced the hell out of you in that locker room. I appreciate that.

Because Coach was just going to let you be you. He was going to let P-Mac. It wasn't no restrictions. All Coach T would have told you was, don't make me look bad. That's all he would have told you. But other than that, be yourself. I think he gave a speech one time at the Rookie Symposium whenever I was down there, and he was like,

we have a thing, just don't be that guy. Everybody knows who that guy is. Just don't be that guy. I was that guy, by the way, October 20th, 10 years ago, in this particular day. But I've heard great stories in that locker room, and I owe Mike Tomlin a lot for getting in the league. What do you got, Diggs?

For the Steelers' secondary, is Derrick Henry, for this weekend, is Derrick Henry the last running back that you want to see break through the line of scrimmage and then have to deal with? I mean, I'll tell you this. We, as a defense and as a secondary when I play, we love to play the Derrick Henrys. Don't forget, man. I had the Corey Dillons.

I had the Jamal Lewis's like, like I've seen two 50 that run four, four, four, three all the time. Like we, we, I had them coming out of the AFC.

So I got brainwashed. We got brainwashed as a secondary from our linebackers. The bigger the heart, the harder you hit them. So there was no O-laying. If that bull is coming down that one way, you make sure you meet that bull in that one way head up. So, yeah, that's how we played, though. And I think that tradition to this day is the same, especially in that secondary. You only as good when it comes to tackling.

You're only as good as your secondary that guys that want to tackle on the back end when you have a stout secondary a stout secondary in the run game when it comes statistically that means your secondary is making tackles and they're willing to hit is that why ryan clark you think talked about minka fitzpatrick not being like a physical force it's because the Steelers secondary has always been, took a lot of pride in like being like, hey, we are going to, we are not scared to hit anybody type thing. We rather you throw for 400 than you have a 100-yard game.

That was our, and we used to call it what we're doing right now, FaceTime. Man, FaceTime this mother in the alley all day. So I got more praise from my teammates, not off of interception, not off of PBU, but coming downhill and smacking somebody face to face.

Me too. Ike, you see these guys asking for trades allegedly that didn't happen much back in the day it really didn't i feel like that's become like a modern thing if you're one of these guys and i'm not gonna say ryan fitzpatrick has requested a trade and but david nojoku from the browns allegedly requested a trade he come out and said he didn't say that to whatever and then now john ross is requesting a trade and we've seen it a lot throughout modern a lot more guys are kind of controlling their narrative and story more than it ever has in the past do you like that i i kind of enjoy the thought of guys being able to take their career into their own hands but it always comes off as you look like a little bit of a

bitch whenever you do that you know what i mean like it always has like a little bit of a negative connotation to it not that it's, but I'm just saying it always does for some reason. I mean, for Ryan Fitzpatrick, you know, he's an eight-game quarterback. He's going to do good for eight games.

So the Dallas Cowboys, they'd win the NFC East. He goes down there and wins eight games. That's just his resume. That's just who he is. Once you give a defensive coordinator four games to adjust on fits and company, then the next four, man, it's going to be kind of hard.

Then after them eight, it's like it's all downhill. We didn't max out at eight games. That's Ryan. Don't get me wrong. Statistically, he got nice stats, but he's an eight-game quarterback. He'll give you a chance for eight games. David Njoku, and I love David Njoku coming from Miami.

I thought he was a stud coming out of Miami. But David got to stay healthy. That's been his issue. The same way with John Ross. I love John Ross coming from Washington, the Huskies. Yeah, he won an island running a 40 at the Ross. I love John Ross coming from, what he came from, Washington, the Huskies? Yeah, he won an island running a 40 at the combine. I was there. I was there.

And I couldn't blink because as soon as I blinked, he was gone. I said, God damn. That's how fast he was. But he's been injury prone. So you want to leave and get traded? The best ability is availability. And so far, the two guys between John and David Njoku, they haven't been available because of injury. So why would I want you to get traded?

And you're a high-round draft pick. And you really don't have any tape. And I don't know what I would get as an organization from you, but you know what? Since you do, I'll test the water. And if it's something they want to do, if I can get two fourth round draft

picks for a third and a fourth for two first rounders, I might take that chance, but guys wanting to get traded, they in their feelings and I get that. They in their feelings and not get that. They want to play and not get that, but you control your career. And the only way you can control your career is by staying healthy. And the two guys out of the three you just named between, you know,

Fitz and Joku and Ross, between them two, man, them guys haven't stayed healthy. And that's just how it is. I don't know why they want to get traded. I have to re-clarify. Fitz has not come out and said anything about being traded but there is conversation that he may be but those other two allegedly have come out and say i just it's always very interesting because the amount of gut sack that that takes to be like yeah i want out of here it's you still got to walk into that locker room the next day like you still it's a very it

just it wasn't something that always happened back in the day Now it feels like It happens on a regular basis And I've never been In a locker room Where somebody's been like Get me the fuck out of here I'm like alright Because the next day Coming in the locker room

Like I'm going to have To address that Whenever you walk in Like I'm going to Hey bro What's going on Go to the Hey we'll find you a place

You know what I mean We'll find you Like I don't even know How that works You know in the locker room Like that just As a teammate I wouldn't trip

If a dude wanted to get traded i would never trip that that's a beef between the coaching staff and the front office you know what i'm saying they ain't got nothing to do between teammates that's like that's like somebody talking about somebody else's money and it's not even your time for your contract that's just like a man of a golden rule in that locker room you never talk about another man money, you know, especially you don't know what's going on in his household. You don't know what he's going through financially.

And I would do the same thing as trades. Like I would never talk to somebody. If one of my partners came in the locker room, they was like, man, I'm trying to get traded. Like, man, go for it. You know what I'm saying? Like I'm always for the player because it's hard anyway. Playing in the NFL, as you know, Pete Mackin, just going against the front office

and that coaching staff, you just really never know what's going on. Yeah, you're 100% right with the business side of it. Whenever somebody signs a deal, everybody let me hold something. But other than that, everybody's happy. Everybody wants everybody to make a billion dollars. And I assume I've never been in a locker room where a guy requested a trade, but if he thought he could make a billion dollars somewhere else, I guess I'd be like, yeah, just go get it, buddy, whatever you got to do.

But it's a wild scene. I mean, it is a wild scene, though. It's happening a lot more. I won't ask why. Like, if somebody came up to me, like, man, I want to get traded. But in our locker room, we were so honest. I'm talking about PMAC. Brutally honest.

So if somebody would have said, man, I want to get traded, we would have said either why or for what? Because you ain't playing anyway. You're going to CFL? You're going to CFL? What you want to get traded for? And do what? Go to another team and stay hurt?

Then a couple more years and say you want to get traded again? Like, man, you need to stop that. What you need to do is get your butt in all season, stay in shape, stay your ass on the field, so maybe you can have some kind of production in the resume that's on tape. Yeah, I thought for sure that's how you would act. That's why it kind of is different than your original answer. Yeah, because I think you and I are pretty similar people

when it comes to that type of thing. What do you got, Connor? Ike, the Dallas Cowboys are a historically bad defense. Is there any silver lining you see, or do they have absolutely no hope for the rest of the season? They ain't got no hope. Jeez. Bro, they ain't.

I mean, I thought the Mike McCarthy hire was very questionable. Oh. And the reason why I thought it was questionable, I remember Mike said he got a staff, you know, when he was out to. He's got a what? He's got a what? He had a staff when he wasn't coaching.

Staff. He created his staff. You know, that new order stuff, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. He created a staff of guys who watch certain games and formations and all this. And I'm like, man, your ass got to get out of the house. The Bill Belichick's down in Florida. He down in Alabama.

So he's in tune with what the college kid is doing. He's in tune to the new formations. He's getting ahead of the generation. The Mike Tomlins, he's down in Florida, Alabama, Texas, USC, Ohio State. He's getting in tune with what these offensive coordinators are doing, what these defensive coordinators are doing in college, how these kids are acting in college, what are what these defensive coordinators doing in college. How these kids acting in college. What are they doing in the offseason in college?

You got to get in tune. You just can't sit in the house and try to figure out what's going on in the world. You really got to go out in the world and see and actually adjust to some things that you know and try to implement them into what you're doing. So that's why these coaches, the OC with Lamar Jackson, you know and try to implement them into what you're doing so that's why these coach uh the oc with lamar jackson you know he flew in a couple of ocs from college and be like how would you use lamar jackson you know what i'm saying and that's why these guys are so successful because they're adjusted um i think coach mike and he got a good resume but right now i think

his game is just too prehistoric you know what i'm saying it's just all the way back in the day and i think the game had passed him up i mean look at he had you know aaron rogers which they did beat us in the super bowl but you had aaron rogers and you had brett falvey you only get you know as a head coach you only get one one super bowl out of these guys how many coaches can say they coach two Hall of Fame quarterbacks? I'm talking about real good quarterbacks. So it's been said a few times, like, sometimes, man, AR-12 just, if he ain't like what Coach Mike McCarthy say, he'll just draw something in the dirt.

He'll be like, you go over here, you go over here, you go over there. So I think Coach Mike, man, I think they need a drill sergeant. Okay, so for the team or for Mike McCarthy in general? Because I do think about Mike McCarthy coming out of that basement, right? Big Mike comes out, learning about Snapchat and TikTok and that whole thing, and then talking, this is the worm. They said they prepared every single day as if it was a season. I think that man sitting behind the computer on the other side is Mike Nolan right there. That defense is in a terrible, terrible, terrible spot.

At Nick Morata, what do you got, boss? Ike, I got an off-the-field question for you. Pat Diggs and myself are all born and bred Yinzers. We consider you an honorary Yinzer as well. Where did you like to get down at and have a good time at in the city? Station Square. Hey, don't forget, nah. Station Scare?

That was my place. I love Station Scare down there, dude. Man, I don't even want to put my address out there, but, you know, I live two blocks off of Carson Street. Same street as me. I walk to Carson Street every day. Lord forbid I had a good lawyer. But, man, Carson Street every day. Lord forbid, I had a good lawyer. But,

100. But man, Carson Street, you know, Carson Street ain't nothing but like a bourbon. Up North Bourbon Street. Yeah.

So I was on Carson Street 24-8. Can't be, can't be on Bourbon, or you can't be on Carson Street 24-8. Can't do it. I don't know how you survived.

24-8, let's be mad. Hey, those affliction pants and shirts, whenever they got out about 2, 3 a.m. on Carson Street 24-8. Can't do it. I don't know how you survived. I have no idea. Hey, those affliction pants and shirts, whenever they got out about 2, 3 a.m. on Carson Street, you had to keep your head on a swivel down there. I mean, it wasn't. They better kept their head on a swivel washing out for me

because they ain't no telling what I was thinking. Carson Street is a war zone, 2, 3 a.m. You're talking about zombies, yinzers, Italians. You got people just walking i wish wax man i'm talking about i'll tell you this this one we won the superbowl right we won the superbowl we won the superbowl detroit superbowl right when we played Seattle, this was back in the gap, 2005, man. I just tell you, we sat down on Carson Street and rolled up a Mary Jane. No.

With one of the head authorities. Oh. I said, this is life. I don't want to go nowhere. I don't want to go nowhere. I don't want to go nowhere. The things you can do in Pittsburgh when you win Super Bowl. It's just. And Coach Tomlin said it best. He said, man, you win a Super Bowl in Pittsburgh, you're on a scholarship for life.

And Lord knows that man ain't lying. I'm still on a scholarship for life. And Lord knows that man ain't lying. I'm still on a scholarship. Pittsburgh is a football town. I was lucky to be born and raised there. They love it, absolutely love it. What do you got? Ike, we just talked about it a little bit, and not that you've ever been in this situation,

but how frustrating do you think it is for those D-backs, for the Cowboys, where they're getting torched every week, but then they're the only ones that are getting talked about. It's not the defensive coordinator whose schemes are obviously probably dog shit. I think it's too complicated over there right now. I think they just need to have one, maybe five plays on the back end. Give them boys five coverages. Have one set of rules.

When you go into a game and you have too many rules, everybody's thinking on the field. And when you get everybody's thinking on the field, man, you have them 80-yard touchdowns. You have them 57-yard touchdowns. Yeah, it'll be simple. And a quarterback will know exactly what your defense is doing. But at least that'll put your secondary guys in better position. You know, at least they can start to communicate more when you just have one set of rules.

Too many rules ain't going to work, especially in that secondary. I can't thank you enough for joining us, Ike. I love talking to you, brother. I really do. I enjoy the hell out of your conversations. Hey, anytime. Appreciate you, P-Mac. I love talking to you, brother. I really do. I enjoy the hell out of your conversations. Hey, anytime. Appreciate you, P-Mac. We got to get to a break.

Do you have any questions you would ask Aaron Rodgers if you had to talk to him after what happened against Tampa? Man, he got a long stroke, that thing. He can't short stroke when he's in the ball. All right. Ladies and gentlemen, I dare you. That's why I appreciate it. Joining us now is a man that's in the news-breaking world,

and the weight on his shoulders got doubled a couple weeks ago or a week and a half ago. And wrap-up horror got suspended for a trim-the-bushes-the- trim the bushes, the tree will stand taller ad on Instagram. Ladies and gentlemen, from the NFL Network, Mr. Tom Pellisar. Yep, you're smart. Good idea. Keep it locked up. For those that couldn't see, he just zipped his mouth shut there and kept it moving, which I'm assuming he was told to do. But, hey, we appreciate you, Tom. Quick question about that situation, though.

Is there anything you think that Rappaport would have got that have happened in the last seven days that maybe he didn't get a chance? That he was sitting at home watching, just like scratching, itching, maybe sweating through this entire thing? Like the Lev Bell deal with the Chiefs. I just thought of Rappaport sitting at home, pacing back and forth that he wasn't allowed to tweet about anything well you know what happened with the levy on bell deal twitter was down oh so this is the first time that i can remember since probably like 2008 in which a big piece of news like that broke and you're just like, what do I do with it? So we, we had it. If you have the, the NFL app on your phone, we had that pop up, but we were just in like this, you know, the underground there, you know,

where there was no way to actually put out the news, which was very bizarre to me. I mean, I was like refreshing different, you know, websites and things, seeing if anybody had it. It was impossible to tell, but no, to answer your question, the little guy, I think we did all right without him. I can respect that, by the way. I love your answer and your confidence.

Let's talk about the news that broke this morning. It is officially two-a-time in Miami for the Dolphins. Their bye week was originally scheduled for, like, week 11, and they had a little bit of an easier schedule after that. Bye week moves up now. Here we are in week seven or whatever. Was the plan all along to have him start after the bye week so he could get two weeks prep? And is the thought that it's just that's the way it's been all along since drafting him

if he checks some boxes? Or how do you think they came to this decision? Well, I asked that exact question to somebody down there who was familiar with the decision making process. And the answer I got was, it's just time. In other words, no matter what the record was, the fact that they had won a couple of games in a row, they're still in the thick of the AFC East race,

only a game back of Buffalo, Brian Flores has shown that with him and his regime, you expect the unexpected. It's not just going to be results-driven. It's going to be about the process, the culture, what he thinks is going to be the best thing for the team. I mean, you don't draft the quarterback in the top 10 like the Dolphins did with Tua and expect to not play him. You know, Brian Fitzpatrick brings some juice to your team. There's no question. It's amazing that he's still

doing the things that he is at this stage in his career. But this offense is something that they knew was going to be or they felt was going to be perfect for Tua. I remember having conversations with coaches and scouts for other teams, but where would Tua fit? And one of the things I kept hearing was, you know, in a Chan Gailey style offense, that's going to be perfect for him because he's going to be able to see the field, going to be in the shotgun, get the ball out. That's what he is really good at. Once he was able to show that physically he was all the way back, which they felt very confident he was going to be there, even after coming off of that major surgery that he had last fall. Once he was able to show that physically he was all the way back, the mental part of it and the leadership and all those things were never really in question. I mean,

it would be interesting to really know for certain whether this would have happened at the bye if the bye were later, because naturally that's the time you're going to make a transition but in terms of you know the scheme and all those things this is dialed up for two and a half success it was just a matter of when do you do it they felt like this was the time ryan fitzpatrick through six games here sports center tweeted this out 1535 yards passing 12 total touchdowns and the dolphins are currently second place in the afc east this is going to be interesting to see how this plays out you think if he goes in there and struggles the dolphins care at all or is this a hundred percent this is for now and for the future play

like for instance kyle van noyes down there there's some veterans that they've signed on that team who i assume would like to win now and they're in a position in the afc east now where you could potentially win now with where they're at if two comes in and in and struggles, I don't know, three, four weeks, which is probably going to happen with a rookie quarterback, by the way. They're going to have some growing pains. Do you think they'll ever question their decision or is it like, hey, this is it, we're moving forward, thank you Fitzmagic for the magic, but now it's time for Tua to see if this is the guy for the future

and we're going to give him a long, long leash here. Well, I would even go back to last year. Remember, they traded a second round draft pick for Josh Rosen, the guy who had been a top 10 draft pick the previous year for Arizona, became available. And we all looked at that saying, OK, at some point here, it's going to be Josh Rosen time. Well, they never saw what they wanted to from Josh Rosen to feel like they were going to insert him into the lineup. And they stuck it out the way that they did in In this case, again, I think that it's a matter of Tua has shown them enough to put him on the field. In other words, if Tua

were not playing well in practice, if they had questions about him physically, mentally, any of that, it wouldn't give him this opportunity. Now, if he goes out there and stinks it up, I don't think, again, that you put anything past Brian Flores. He's going to do what's best for the team and the organization. In this case case it's putting Tua into the lineup I would certainly not think you're going to get a quick hook and he throws two early picks you're going to bench him on November 1st when he makes his first start against the Rams but they're you know they're certainly going to be evaluating this like everything else they're confident that he's going to be the quarterback of the future but he's going to have to show it to keep himself on the

field he's you know those two passes he had against the Jets were very good. I was very pumped to see it rolling out of the pocket, too, making a play. This could be awesome to watch because Herbert, been balling. Joey Burrow, been balling. Let's assume Tua will as well. Let's talk about the Tennessee Titans getting no punishment at all for the COVID outbreak. They said that they thought there was a couple situations

I guess without masks, but overall they followed the protocols exactly. Are the protocols faulty then, if that's the case? And why did it come out in your eyes that there's no punishment happening? Well, there still could be a punishment organizationally in terms of a fine. It could be a substantial fine, but there's not going to be forfeited games. There's not going to be individual punishment for John Robinson or Mike Vrabel. There's not going to be lost draft picks. What they did find was that there were instances of not wearing masks, which is something we had known for several weeks here.

There were instances where, remember, they collected video. They did interviews. They found that there were times where players and others were gathering in hallways without masks and having conversations, which you would consider to be a high-risk behavior. Can't do it. We can't do it. Tom, can't do it. Can't do it. We can't do it, Tom. Can't do it.

Can't do it. Can't do it. Come on, Ty boy. Also found insufficient communication regarding the players having their own workouts off-site. But none of this rose to the level where they felt like they had to drop the hammer on them. I think that one of the key things here is there have been any evidence that

the GM or the head coach or somebody was pushing guys to violate the protocols that this was an organized type of a scheme the nfl when you look historically at their punishment when they have really come down hard on people it's been when you had some level of influence from the top you know think about the saints and bounty gate and i'm sure every saints fan watching this is going to say there was nothing there well what they found and where why the punishment was issued, whether you believe that the evidence backed it up or not, but why they came down so hard was because they traced it to Greg Williams. They traced it to Sean Payton and the bounty system. That's why they

suspended those guys. They had harsh punishment against a lot of different individual people. If in this case you had found that Mike Brable and John Robinson were telling players get together outside the building, were telling players you don't need to wear your mask, everything is fine, you might end up with a different level of punishment. So the review is concluded. The results are what they are. They handed them over to the Titans. They started to make a disciplinary decision. I would expect a fine. It's probably going to be a fairly big fine, but it's not going to go beyond that because this was not an organized scheme to get around protocols that

other than that, the NFL and the NFLPA found the Titans actually had made adjustments to the building and things to bring them into compliance. That leaked audio of Greg Williams, you know, saying, hit Frank Gore in the fucking head. Kill the head and the body will die.

Now, he's a hard-nosed coach. He's a hard-nosed coach, but I believe those audio clips were probably pretty damning when it came to the entire jury process. So if they had Mike Vrabel on tape going, guys, take off the masks, that probably

would have led to something worse. It was a complacency. That was really what they had found. It's something that, honestly their every other team is looking at this situation i've talked to a lot of people with other teams who were uh thinking and hoping that the league was going to come down hard on the titans just because it had this ripple effect across people's schedules across their uh practice time and other things um but they just they did not have that evidence and so that's why you're going to have the level of punishment that you do. It would be wild to hear an audio clip.

Who was that? Was that Roger Goodell telling you not to talk? Was that Rappaport? Was that Rappaport with a break right there? It was a no-caller ID, so I may never get that call back. Oh, that might be Vinatieri. This is how much I care about you. Well, I appreciate it.

Tom. Hey, Tom. We appreciate you, Tom. What do you got, Tom? Hey, Tom. It was reported that Brownstead and David Njoku was requesting a trade. Is that information accurate, and are there any teams interested? How about John Ross as well over there at Cincy?

There's a lot of trade requests coming from players, allegedly. Do you know anything about him? Well, John Ross definitely has requested a trade from Cincinnati. This is something where he's very talented. I mean, he was a top 10 draft pick. He's had a ton of injuries. Went through a personal situation in camp where there was COVID in his family. He left the team for a while.

He just really hasn't found his way into the rotation. He's looking for a fresh start someplace else. In terms of David Njoku, he had his trade request back last summer. He's changed agents a couple of times. Former first-round draft pick. He'd be an interesting one in terms of what somebody would be willing to give up for him because there's no question that he's very talented.

The issue with Njoku is just he hasn't been a consistent producer in the NFL. Can somebody go back to the college tape or watch what they've seen from the NFL and say, I can still unlock something? Am I willing to give up a mid-round draft pick for the guy we're gonna have a ton of these conversations here uh over the next couple of weeks and we'll see exactly how it shakes out tom there was some rumors i saw this morning on the internet about also around trades that matt ryan and julio jones could be on the trade block for a possible rebuild in atlanta is there any fire to that smoke that's a big contract. Julio Jones would be difficult to trade because they gave him that massive contract back last September,

right before the opener, and so there'd be heavy cap ramifications. With Matt Ryan, off the top of my head, I don't believe he's got nearly as much bonus per ration and things. He would potentially be tradable. Rich McKay, who's running the football operations there right now, has said it's not a fire sale. They're not just giving away all the veterans. You know, to me, if I'm evaluating this, you know, internally, I'm not taking my best two players off the table for whoever the new GM and head coach are. I'm letting, those are big organizational decisions that are going to have ripple effects going forward. I would think that those are potentially attractive pieces

or potentially attractive trade pieces. And so holding on to those guys through the trade deadline, seeing maybe then, okay, where are we in January and February, would seem to make more sense. Not to mention the fact that right now Raheem Morris is 1-0 as the interim coach. He's not going to want those guys getting traded away. They can help him win some games here in Atlanta or someplace else, potentially become a permanent head coach.

Those decisions that were going to come to Rich McKay, he's made clear that a lot of decisions are going to come down to that new GM and head coach. That only makes good business sense. You don't want to just start hemorrhaging assets at a time that you're also trying to attract the best coaching and GM candidates to Atlanta in a year where we could have normal, if not above, type of level of turnover across the league. Well, the Jets do that. They just completely offset everything for the new GM or whatever. Matt Ryan, I believe, has a cap hit of $40 million next year. So not only Julio Jones has a massive contract, Matt Ryan is still owed a lot of money. I don't know if... You would carve that, though, by

trading him away. I mean, yeah, you'd carry dead money for the year, but you could potentially free up assets. I mean, what do you give up for Matt Ryan if you're another team right now?

I mean, what is he worth at this stage in his career? Not worth $40 million. Not worth $40 million. Forget what I'm trading for. What am I getting alongside Matt Ryan? I'm also getting, what,

$20-some, $30 million, or whatever. It's like, I don't know if Matt... Who knows? But he was a different guy without Dan Quinn. I'm starting to wonder, Julio Jones and Matt Ryan, did Dan Quinn hold them back? I mean, people are asking that question, Tom. They had a massive game

against the Vikings. I did not expect that. Around the NFL, Tom, there's a lot of feel like marquee names tearing ACLs, okay? We had Taylor LeJuan, Devin Bush, marquee names tearing ACLs, okay? We had Taylor LeJuan, Devin Bush, and then obviously that first week, Saquon Barkley, you name it, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum. Is there any conversation around that in the NFL, or is it just like,

yeah, it's just football, it does happen? Because it does happen, but it feels like bigger names this year are getting hurt. Well, I know that there's been a push among the Players Association and some of the leadership on the players' side to eliminate artificial turf. That's something that they've been really rattling the cages about the past few weeks, just looking at the higher percentage of injuries that occur on artificial turf relative to natural grass and making the case that even in the indoor stadiums, you could find a way to have turf, or excuse me, natural grass inside. I mean, that's part of the conversation they're

certainly analyzing just the overall soft tissue injuries and things like that remember we didn't have a preseason we didn't have an offseason and if you go back to the last time that that happened at least in terms of losing the offseason it was 2011 coming off the lockout and there was a higher degree of soft tissue injuries everybody knew that that was going to be a risk factor going in which is why you had that push really on medical experts from both the league and the union to have the extended acclimation period at the start of training camp. I mean, there was that one Sunday, whatever that was, week two or week three, where it seemed like every superstar in the league was going down.

That has abated to a certain degree. But, you know, in any given year, this is unfortunately kind of what happens. You're going to lose really good players as the season goes along. And, you know, the teams that are there at the end either got really lucky by not having injuries, or they're the teams that are able to shuffle somebody else in and find a way to do it, even though there's not a lot of Taylor Luans or Devin Bushes walking the face of the earth. Health is very much an X factor in teams that succeed and don't succeed, and especially at what positions. And the grass thing, I think as soon as University of Phoenix, which is a fine school, came along and sponsored that stadium out in Arizona

and everybody realized that the grass can just walk outside for the sun and then just come right back in and it's like beautiful. Everybody else, I think a lot of players were like, well, if, I mean, this is the desert, so I guess it's a little bit different. But is there, are we not, do we not have the technology to take care of that? I'll be excited to see what they do. Because the NFL doesn't want their star players going down either. So players are asking and the NFL doesn't want that type of thing. I mean, Saquon, the Giants stink, but

Saquon would still be all over a lot of things right now. He's a superstar. You can't have him going out. What's up, Todd? Tom, from what you've been hearing and what we've been seeing thus far, do you expect this year's trade deadline to be much more active than it has been in years past? I don't know that it's going to be more active. And I think that part of that is the complication of getting new players into facilities. Because the COVID protocols have gotten extended now. There's a six-day period to actually get someone in. So, you know, is that going to impact, you know, kind of macro moves?

Maybe not. But in terms of some of those other types of moves, it's simply more difficult. We basically have to pull off a trade on Sunday night, which is like what we saw with Steve McClendon getting traded from the Jets to the Bucs, and he just drove over from Miami after that game. If you can't get over there quickly, there's not even a way to practice that following week because you have to go through six days of protocols before you're allowed to join your new team. That's definitely a complicating factor. I think that naturally we've seen in the past few

years more moves. You know, the trade deadline, you remember five, 10 years ago, nobody got traded. There was nothing. It was a non-event. Then you've had an aggressive group of younger general managers, that's part of it, who have come uh more willing to make moves more willing to trade first round draft picks for uh known commodities i think i don't think that that changes uh substantially here but there's definitely something with some of the the lower end trades that we've seen in past years the depth type of guys i think that part of the reason you've seen very little trade action to this point has been the fact that teams know all right i need an injury replacement this week i can't even get it. I have to go to my practice club because there's no way I'm going to be able

to get a new player who's ready to play by Sunday. Yeah, those six days, guys aren't even allowed to work out. They're not allowed to do anything. So I've talked to a couple kickers who have gone free agent workouts, and they're like, I have to sit in a hotel for six days. I can't kick for six days, can't work out, can't really do anything. And then I have a workout where I have to be the best I've ever been in my entire life to potentially get a job.

Yeah, and there's guys who, the same names pop up on the wire every Monday, which means they're spending six days in one city kicking for a day or working out, whatever it is. They get back on a plane and go to another city for another six days. I can tell you this. There's some agents who have flat out told teams now, I'm not having my guy try out anymore.

I know you want to see him. He's done three, flat out told teams now, I'm not having my guy try out anymore. I know you want to see him. He's done three, four of these tryouts. I'm not having him do anymore because it doesn't make any sense. He's going crazy. You're not supposed to leave the hotel. I'm sure some guys do. But you're not supposed to. You're supposed to be isolated, quarantined.

Yeah, how are you in shape? How are you doing the things that you need to do? And then you've got situations like what happened in Cleveland last week. So Dallas loses Dak Prescott. They're starting quarterback on Sunday. They need depth. So they signed Garrett Gilbert off the Browns practice squad on Monday morning. So now the Browns are scrambling, going,

how do we get somebody in here in time to suit up on Sunday? So they call and try to get Kyle Lalletta, who lives down in Atlanta, on Monday, Monday afternoon, Monday evening. His agent goes, I don't even think he can make a plane today. They're like, well, try. Well, it turns out Lalletta, I was told, was going to pick someone up at the airport. His agent goes, just get on this plane. I'm getting you a ticket. Have someone mail you a bag. You're going to be there for a week just just get to cleveland he makes the flight flies up there starts covet testing on tuesday and then the

browns are told a couple days later uh yeah that six days doesn't account the first day because he hadn't tested yet so he if baker mayfield can't go he's not even allowed to suit up on sunday like well can we have him test because it would only be five days till saturday well can we have him test on sunday and drive to Pittsburgh? No, that's against the protocols too. So Baker Mayfield had not played last Sunday. If he hadn't been able to suit up, they would have only had one quarterback, Case Keenum, even in uniform. We would have been like one hit away from Jarvis Landry or Odell Beckham Jr. at quarterback. They since have tweaked the protocols. The Browns did not get grandfathered in, but the NFL tweaked the

protocols where now travel day counts toward your six days. But these are all the situations where They since have tweaked the protocols. The Browns did not get grandfathered in, but the NFL tweaked the protocols. We're now travel day counts toward your six days. But these are all the situations where every contingency is not necessarily fully thought through. Browns did everything right. You lose a guy on Monday, you get another guy in on Monday, and then you're told he can't even play the following Sunday. These are real challenges for pro personnel departments around the league. I haven't talked to Mr. Gilbert, but I think he or or the other guy loretta i think he would say that they'd rather have covid than have to go against that steelers deal yeah i think they would say just give me covid i

don't want to go against cam hayward punching me in the ribs and tj watt picking me up and slamming me and then took some hits oh he got slaughtered out there. Felt bad for the guy. Speaking of getting slaughtered, if you're a Jets fan, this has kind of become a regular thing, but this particular season is just bad. And I know you work for the NFL, so you can't say it, but have you ever seen a team openly try to suck as bad as the Jets seem to be trying to suck right now? And is it potentially because there's a guy down at Clemson who is basically put together as a franchise quarterback? He's fast. He's tall. He's a leader. at Clemson who is basically put together as a franchise quarterback.

He's fast. He's tall. He's a leader. He can throw every ball. He seems to be incredibly smart and intelligent and likable. He's the guy. Is there a thought maybe in the league's eyes that the Jets are potentially trying to suck at this particular moment, Tom?

Well, I would certainly tell you this. Adam Gase and Greg Williams and those guys are not trying to suck. They're trying to win games. They've got substantial challenge. Think about it this way. You don't have your starting quarterback. You don't have your left tackle, who is your first-round draft pick. You don't have your second-round draft pick, Denzel

Minns, who hasn't played. The Jets, for a stretch there, were playing games without the top five receivers they had on their roster entering camp levy on bell strains a hamstring he's immediately out they end up having to uh you know release him based upon the situation there cj mosley who they gave a boatload of money to along with bell the previous cycle under the old gm mike mccagnin ops out so now you're down your best player on defense you're down several of your best players on offense. These are excuses, but they're just, they are really challenged

in what was always going to be kind of a transition type of a year for them. So now they're sitting there at 0-6. I know there's going to be constant speculation about when Adam Gase gets let go, but, you know, if you're the Jets, he's in year two. You still owe Adam Gase a bunch of money. Who are you going to have take over as the interim coach? Do you really want it to be Greg Williams at this stage? There's a lot of factors they have to take into account. This might all lead to them finishing in a place where they end up having the right to draft Trevor Lawrence in very high, if not number one overall, in next

year's draft. I don't think anybody openly tanks coaching-wise or on the field. You know, personnel-wise, they felt like they were going to be in a better position. They did not think that they were going to be terrible. Now that you're in it and you're watching everything that's going on, that reality sets in relatively quickly, which is where you start trading away the likes of Steve McClendon, who was a really good locker room guy, for a swap of future draft picks. You're at that point where, you know, some guys, it's just going to make sense for you to move on

from them. Let Frank Gore get out of there, too. Let that guy. He deserves it. Please let him go somewhere else. And Brant Boyer, special teams coordinator, should be the interim head coach. Tom, every time we talk, I appreciate you so much. Have a great day.

NFL Network reporter. He's also a host on SiriusXM NFL Radio. He's an insider, and I believe people can watch you every single day on NFL Daily? I don't know what that is, but let's go with yes if you were told to say that. No, no, no. I didn't read what I was told to say. I'm trying to throw back. Aren't you on TV

daily, though, on NFL Network? Yeah, NFL Now is our midday show, but here's the thing. NFL Now! If you told me there was a show called NFL Daily, I would absolutely believe you. I don't entirely know what's going on digital-wise and things like that. They tell me to show up, I put on the shirt and tie, and I'm ready. And you crush it, ladies and gentlemen, Tom Poe.

Thank you, Tom. All right, can't thank you enough for joining us. Another Aaron Rodgers Tuesday is in the books. Yes! Big thanks to Ike, Tom, and Aaron, and all of you. From all of us to all of you, we know you can listen to a lot of other things. The fact that you allow us to penetrate your ear holes, we are eternally

grateful. We'll be back tomorrow with a great, great lineup of guests tomorrow. Loaded lineup. Oh, my. Tomorrow's show? You thought today was good. Huh. Wait till tomorrow. Loaded lineup. Oh, my. Tomorrow's show? You thought today was good. Huh. Wait till tomorrow. People are saying October 21st, 2020. What a day for the

Pat McAfee Show 2.0. Arguably, maybe the best day ever. They said that? That's what people are saying. People said that? Yeah. Wow, I'm intrigued. Me too. Alright. You heard it from Ty's mouth itself. From other people's mouths i'm just reporting don't shoot the messenger hey i want to shoot you i'm happy for you sounds good hey i'm

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