The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 299 - OVERREACTION MONDAY, Week 11 NFL Recap, Rodrigo Blankenship, Ian Rapoport, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: November 23, 2020

On today's show, Pat and the boys overreact to everything that happened in the NFL over the weekend including the big tilt between the Packers and Colts, if the Steelers are undefeated, which teams ar...e now DEAD, how good the Chiefs are, and how the Raiders might be a tough out in the playoffs. Joining the show is NFL Network Insider and host of the RapSheet and Friends Podcast, Ian Rapoport to discuss everything that happened in the NFL this weekend including the potential fight between Mike Vrabel and John Harbaugh, Taysom Hill's ascendance in New Orleans, whether or not the Packers are going to get rid of Mike Pettine or not, and much more (23:29-44:18). Next, Lou Groza Award winner, and current Kicker for the Indianapolis Colts fresh off a game winner against the Packers, Rodrigo "Hot Rod" Blankenship joins the program to chat about his big day against the Packers, what happened on that 50 yard missed field goal, his merch company, what he's thought of Indianapolis so far, and what his mindset is before those big kicks (46:44-1:00:39). To close out the show, on another edition of McAfee & Hawk Sports Talk, Pat and AJ give their thoughts on everything that happened over the weekend, dive through all the overreactions with #PatIDontWantToOverreactBUT, and they each give their picks for tonight's Monday Night Football game between the Bucs and the Rams. Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow and listen every day on Mad Dog Radio, Sirius XM Channel 82. We appreciate you all for listening, come and laugh with us, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello! It is Overreaction Monday, November 23rd. Joining us today, Hot Rod, Rodrigo Blankenship, fresh off of a game-winning kick yesterday against the Packers for the Indianapolis Colts. We have a great conversation with him about his life, his specs, his kick. Everything you can think of. The kid is awesome. You're going to enjoy that. Also, Ian Rapoport of NFL Network says, one of the dumbest things we've ever had on our show, plus a great conversation with a lot of information. We can't thank you enough for choosing to listen to this dumb ass show. Now, by the end of it, if you enjoy it, please be a friend and tell a friend. If you don't, just act like it never, ever happened.
Starting point is 00:00:37 Just be like, you know what? Charge it to the game. I just got whatever hour and whatever in my life. I'll never get back. Listen to stupid people. I allowed them to penetrate my heroes, but I'm not going to tell anybody. That's what we would like if you didn't enjoy the show. But if you did enjoy the show, please be a friend and tell a friend. A little guerrilla warfare tactics trying to grow this thing. We can't thank you enough. We have no idea why you listen, but we're thankful you do.
Starting point is 00:01:00 Let's get to the show. A lot of things happened yesterday in another NFL Sunday week 11 edition. The Colts beat the Packers in an overtime thriller. The Chiefs beat the Raiders in a close game, but one that didn't seem like it was out of touch for the Chiefs the entire night. They did not cover, which sucks for everybody, but they did get the win in Las Vegas. The Titans beat the Ravens. The Steelers remained undefeated, but what did we learn from yesterday?
Starting point is 00:01:30 We'll talk about that for the next three hours or so right here on Sirius XM Channel 82, Mad Dog Sports Radio. We got overreactions from all around the globe via Twitter. We were trending in the United States at number six. Just moments after announcing, we wanted to have overreactions from all around the globe via Twitter. We were trending in the United States at number six. Just moments after announcing, we wanted to have overreactions from people. So we appreciate the hell out of you. We'll get to all of that. Plus, we have Ian Rapoport of the NFL Network.
Starting point is 00:01:54 And respect, respects the man who hit the 39-yard game winner in overtime yesterday, Hot Rod, Rodrigo Blankenship. Georgia Bulldog will be joining us in about an hour or so plus your phone calls 1-888-MADDOG6 let's have a great monday at tone digs the pittsburgh steelers remain undefeated blowing out the jacksonville jaguars yesterday the defense showed up the offense showed up but ben and the boys aren't happy with the big dub that they had yesterday well i mean the disrespect of the ten0 team is unbelievable in this league. All anyone's talking about is how bad they are
Starting point is 00:02:29 and that the Chiefs are going to blow them out by 45 points. But, you know, we'll see when that time comes. Mike Tomlin said nothing's perfect about us except for our record. We'll carry on, basically, is what he said, just trying to get a win. And whenever you talk to anybody in the organization, it does feel like they are hey next meeting next game whatever and i think ben roethlisberger said like we are not looking to go perfect here that is a very difficult thing to do only one team has been able to do it and win the super bowl at the end of the
Starting point is 00:02:54 day we just want to get better and keep getting better they put a bad team away yesterday which isn't normal for the pittsburgh steelers and at the beginning it looked like they were going to have to battle against that team but that team's so bad that the steelers just went ahead and put them away mink if it's patrick gets a couple picks although jake the snake didn't look terrible it seemed like that defense potentially at halftime mike tomlin said to the boys like hey hey remember what i said about the mac you know this is a below the mac quarterback and it seems like they woke up now no offense to jake the snake lute on you're playing against the uh greatest defense in the nfl right now and i guess the steelers are 24 and six or 26 and four since 2004 going against rookie quarterbacks jake had no chance yesterday but it
Starting point is 00:03:35 had to be nice to see the steelers put a team away when they don't normally do that now immediately afterwards though the steelers uh whether it's ben or other people talking about how they needed to score more points. And I guess Ebron mentioned something about the Kansas City Chiefs. Are the Pittsburgh Steelers, are they losing focus on the next practice, next meeting, next lift mentality because they're the only team that's 10-0 and continuing to be a dominant team? Are they worried about the long term as opposed to the short term? And that's getting the next win and securing home field advantage in the AFC, which is going to be tough, especially after the Chiefs get a win last night that they could have definitely lost.
Starting point is 00:04:11 They can worry about – they are worrying about the long term because they've talked about – Ben's talked about they don't care about going undefeated. They care about winning the Super Bowl is what they said. And if they want to worry about the long term after Thursday, that's fine. Let's wrap up the division on Thursday, and then we can worry about the long term. Because if they don't worry about Thursday, the Ravens will dog walk them if they don't. I'm not 100% sure about that.
Starting point is 00:04:31 That Ravens team looks absolutely lost. They look like a very different team. Ryan Clark was screaming it this morning, and I know Ryan Clark is a Pittsburgh Steelers guy, so that might be a little bit of a spin zone coming from him anti-Baltimore. Because Pittsburgh and Baltimore, obviously, for a long time were a big rival. They still are. Thursday is a massive game in the AFC North, especially after Baltimore has owned the AFC North and also
Starting point is 00:04:52 has the MVP playing quarterback for them. But that Ravens team, there's something going on. Hey, there's something going on. It seemed like they loved being Ravens last year. There was big trust. Woo seems like there's something going on over there now now i'm not saying that the titans weren't a great team and aren't a great team i think they are and i think that was going to be a tall task and aj hawk said hey titans don't need the points going in this weekend because of how much he liked that team but whenever you talk about lamar speaking
Starting point is 00:05:21 out about the offense being predictable and then Marquise Brown saying things, and then now he's dropping balls every once in a while. It feels like there's something going on in that locker room and in that culture that they're not the same Ravens they were last year. I think everybody's saying that. But Thursday night, they get a win over the Steelers. Everybody will change their tune very quickly and say, hey, the Ravens might have hit a little bit of a drive spell,
Starting point is 00:05:41 but it seems like they found it. Big game on Thursday night for the Pittsburgh Steelers. Yeah, and normally it doesn't matter how either team is playing coming into that game. It's just completely different. So that's why Thursday I have no reflection of how the Ravens have played these last couple weeks. We'll have an impact on Thursday.
Starting point is 00:05:56 And because you've got to think, the Ravens could be without a head coach. You know what I mean? There was a chance yesterday that another NFL head coach was potentially just going to kill another head coach and that'd be the big dog Mike Vrabel down there in Tennessee and we talked to Taylor LeJuan about Vrabel coach Vrabel and about how he acts it's like he's in the locker room but he's the head guy he's making this hey we're all in this together I'm the one making decisions here setting the schedule and everything like that. And he's really captivated something within that Tennessee Titans locker room that they've never had before.
Starting point is 00:06:29 I mean, now granted, Jeff Fisher was a great coach there for a long time. They had a little bit of a run a long way, way back. But for the most recent history for a lot of people, the Tennessee Titans were a team that maybe could be good, but everybody knew the Colts were just going to dominate them, so they're not even in it. Much like the Bills, maybe. Much like the Raiders are right now, who are a much better team, I think,
Starting point is 00:06:47 than anybody's given them credit for. Last night, they looked very, very good. But the Titans, whenever Vrabel got there, he kind of brought that team to life. He changed the entire identity. They took the culture of Vrabel, which is like a tough guy. It feels like he's just a tough guy, which is how he played, how people describe him off the field. And it's been a great great match uh between
Starting point is 00:07:05 he and the titans organization but last night yesterday or not last night but yesterday when the titans won out stood on the ravens thing logo in the middle of the field now i didn't know exactly what they were doing out there did it it seemed like there was a lot of players so that was a conversation that that had taken place by somebody i'm'm not saying Vrabel was a part of it, but I'm just saying somebody in that organization in the locker room said, before a game, by the way, we're all going to go ahead and jump on that thing. Now, unless they were praying to their Lord, then, by the way, we should have a completely different stance.
Starting point is 00:07:36 Maybe they were blessing the field or whatever. I don't know if they do that every single game. I feel like if they did, this would have potentially happened beforehand, not just in Baltimore. There had to have been a big statement like, that's our team prayer. So I'm not 100% sure it's a team prayer. But that was a message sent. Harbaugh has to go out and defend the field himself, right?
Starting point is 00:07:52 Yeah. Which, by the way, shout out to Harbaugh for doing that. Good for him. But whenever you see Malcolm Butler basically saying, go fuck you to another head coach and telling him to get the fuck out, basically, I'm like, oh oh my god this titans team is hilarious this team is awesome but then vrabel comes out and vrabel's basically like oh shut up hardball like if your players want to come out here and mix it up maybe we can do that but you
Starting point is 00:08:15 should not be talking here basically then after the game everybody knows hardball shooed off vrabel vrabel gets the win with the titans and looked like they were pretty dominant yesterday although it went to overtime and derrick henry off like a 40-yarder to win it or a 36-yarder to win it or whatever. That Ravens team looks different. It feels different. I think if you're from the outside looking in, you say, ooh, that team doesn't look to be anywhere near what they were last year,
Starting point is 00:08:37 but they still have a head coach who didn't get knocked out yesterday by another head coach, so they should look on the bright side. And if they get a win on Thanksgiving, nobody will talk about any of the shit that has happened before that thanksgiving game because that's all that matters in the afc north even though the steelers have a three-game lead or whatever in the afc north or a two-game lead whatever it is at this point that win would be one that would change the conversation about the ravens 2020 season that's why you can't judge them too bad even though it looks like they are potentially dead at Ty Schmidt. A team that isn't dead still has
Starting point is 00:09:07 a two-game lead in the NFC North. The Green Bay Packers yesterday put on an absolute show offensively over 300 yards, three touchdowns for Aaron Rodgers. He did throw a pick to a guy that chased him down. I think that was a whole shot thought where it was a different coverage than what it was. Rock Yassin, I think, makes an incredible
Starting point is 00:09:24 play right there. But the offense looked good yesterday for the Packers. When the offense had to score, go down the field and tie it up, they were able to do it in like four or five plays. Deep ball out of the end zone. Another one, Devontae. Another one real quick. It felt like they were able to move against a very good
Starting point is 00:09:40 Colts defense. That Colts defense gives everybody problems. They obviously caused the fumble in overtime. That defense is very good. If you're a Packers fan, how do you feel this morning? Two game lead in the NFC North. Vikings lose to the Cowboys. They were potentially getting hot. Lions just got shot out to the Carolina
Starting point is 00:09:55 Panthers. They stink. Chicago Bears are Chicago Bears. You have to feel very comfortable in the NFC North, but whenever you think about that playoff picture, which is what we were talking about since the draft, how last year you make it to the NFC Championship game whenever you think about that playoff picture which is what we were talking about since the draft how last year make to the NFC championship game you lose you do nothing really to change that outcome of that game for this year and it seems like there's a a constant that's if a team can run and move against their team Aaron can do all he can do to keep up but will that carry into the playoffs and end up kicking them right in the sack yeah i mean it's
Starting point is 00:10:25 very very disappointing because like you said i mean i think that's like the realization that you come to after the game yesterday is like oh this basically is last year's team you know i mean like yeah there's a couple different pieces but that's why it's tough is because i mean you're not i'm not thinking like oh they're gonna like hopefully they win the division like you know you put them with like the steelers and the chiefs, or at least I do. It's Super Bowl or bust. Granted, you have four turnovers yesterday. It's going to be tough to beat a team like the Colts.
Starting point is 00:10:51 They had so many opportunities. I mean, the difference between the first half and the second half, at halftime I'm thinking, oh, okay, they're going to end up dog-walking them out of the building. And then it's just like, I don't know, it's pathetic in the second half. Have to give a lot of credit to that Colts team, though, man. Phillip Rivers and that offense have been able to move now. First half, not so much.
Starting point is 00:11:11 Second half, they looked very good. Looked like they could do whatever. Phil's battling a lower right leg injury. Sounded like we were watching a hockey game, the way they kept talking about the way he was. It's a lower body injury on his right side, I think, or whatever. It's interesting to see what ends up happening with him also he wears no cleats at all he wears just flats basically on the field
Starting point is 00:11:29 interesting not even a thought of running weapon if i get tackled i want my feet to be able to slide too so i don't get folded up on you do whatever you got to do he's been in that colts team what a massive win at home there i mean massive win the defense in the first half was kind of like oh my god my God, here we go. Did we think the Packers were going to be able to do whatever? They were able to get very meaningful stops, a massive turnover, forced fumble and an interception, and the special teams played well. Colts teams playing very good football right now.
Starting point is 00:11:58 Is it enough to go the long haul in the AFC with the likes of the Steelers and the Chiefs? And if this Titans team can continue to get moving I mean there's there's a lot of shit that has to happen but the Colts team's got to be very pumped about how they played the Packers yesterday yeah I mean and they basically that's exactly how you beat the Packers I think it was that when there was eight minutes and 52 seconds left in the fourth quarter the Colts had run 36 plays on offense and the Packers had run six so it's just like you know they the Packers shouldn't have to score on every single possession.
Starting point is 00:12:29 But, I mean, Mike Pettin stinks at his job. So, like, they pretty much. Almost. Is that overreaction Monday? That is not an overreaction at all. Like, if you just. I mean, the guy fucking stinks at his job. He should have fired him after last year.
Starting point is 00:12:41 He was trending yesterday very high, by the way. Mike Pettin was trending very, very high in the trends. I saw it. I took a little look-see in there, and there was some flames coming from the Packers fans. I text Ty, go, hey, fans are starting to turn on Mike, and he's like, not starting, pal. They've been had, Dad.
Starting point is 00:12:59 And I guess he just signed an extension, too, so it's a lot of interesting shit going on over there in Green Bay. I mean, you would think that they'll shit can him after this year. I mean, they should have done it at, like, four different points of this season already. But I don't know. Maybe it doesn't matter. But, like, I like when you look at the sideline.
Starting point is 00:13:14 Like, LaFleur, he's fired up. Like, he shows emotion. He'll get pissed out. By the way, him and Big Bob, anytime they show petting, it's just like he's got his fucking eyes closed. It's like, dude, your defense just like he's got his fucking eyes closed. It's like, dude, your defense just gave up 98 yards in four plays. Show some emotion.
Starting point is 00:13:31 I don't know. It's very, very frustrating. Well, if they're successful, the no emotion is good because it's like this guy's been here before. Whenever they're bad, the no emotion makes fans think that you're complacent with what's going on. This was kind of Jim Caldwell's gift and curse. You know what I mean? Sure. Whenever we were doing well and Jim showed no emotion, it was like, you see that guy?
Starting point is 00:13:49 He expects to win. He's just always a businessman. Then whenever the Lions were doing bad and Jim wasn't throwing headsets, they were like, this guy doesn't even care. Does he even have a soul on the sideline? He hates football. This guy doesn't even care if the Lions stink or whatever.
Starting point is 00:14:04 It's like, well, I think he did care that the Lions stink, probably more so than anybody in the history of the Lions. I mean, the Lions fucking stink, dude. 20-zip. 20-zip against Carolina Panthers, who had nobody playing for them, basically, and just shut it all down. Now, granted, the Lions had a lot of people out, too. So let's not talk about that.
Starting point is 00:14:23 Let's talk about that. Stafford had a broken thumb or whatever. Carolina Panthers' future, though, is very bright. I think that's what everybody's noticing. And congrats to P.J. Walker on his first NFL start getting a dub. Another team that's completely dead. You guys stink, dude. It is not fun.
Starting point is 00:14:39 You are right. And our defense stinks. Everyone's talking about Cam Newton and the offense. They blow. The defense is pathetic. And there was a couple. Our defense stinks. Everyone's talking about Cam Newton and the offense. They blow. The defense is pathetic. And there was a couple. Now, Cam ended up throwing for like 365 or something again.
Starting point is 00:14:53 Insane numbers he put up against that Houston Texans defense, which, I mean, it's kind of hit or miss, I guess, that defense. You never know what's going to happen. J.J. Watt made some plays yesterday. But there were a couple passes by Cam Newton where something happens. I don't know if it's his shoulder or something slips. He throws it right into the dirt, and it's a very ugly looking ball it's like a couple short passes it's it's almost like when a pitcher has to throw the ball to first base you know and they don't really know what to do it's like uh it's one of those things a couple of his passes yesterday look like that like he couldn't but then there was a couple that he just dropped into buckets i mean
Starting point is 00:15:23 it's real hit or miss. I'm intrigued. By the way, the way he dressed yesterday. Let's have a look. Hey. 10 out of 10. Hey. Yodel-ee, yodel-ee, yodel-ee, yodel-ee, yodel-ee. He really did look like the yodel guy on The Price is Right going up and then going down.
Starting point is 00:15:37 And if you don't respect fashion, obviously, you have no idea what you're looking at. Exactly. Get out of town. Okay, get out of town. This is a big high big high fashion show huge would any of us ever wear no no no because we know that we aren't fashionable enough to wear something like that but when you wear something like that you know that you're very comfortable in your abilities okay you know that you're a very confident person because you know
Starting point is 00:15:58 the internet's going to do exactly what it did i mean two different color laces uh none of it matches each other so this i, it is super high fashion. The lace colors, those two, aren't even in the shorts or in the boots. I mean, it's just, there's no matching of any of it. And I think that's why I love it so much. Because Cam goes, give me one of these. Give me one of these. Bow tie on this thing.
Starting point is 00:16:18 Top hat on this thing. Couple boots like the Yodel guy. High socks. Suspenders. Let me get a, I love this out of cam newton me too and i like that there are some great there is some greatness left in cam newton you see it whenever he's playing there's some greatness level but then there's some things he does that just like well what happened there cam maybe a new system or whatever maybe just something happens
Starting point is 00:16:39 but the defense i mean deshaun watson ran some people over flexeded on them, threw some touchdowns, made some plays. I'm intrigued with what the hell is going to happen down in Houston, but also what's going to happen with Cam Newton after this season. Somebody's going to sign him after this year, hopefully. I mean, you want 86 nights with nobody signing him? I don't think it's going to be the Patriots. Patriots are going to go younger, obviously. Maybe.
Starting point is 00:17:00 Who knows? But he's an interesting watch. He's a very interesting watch because you know he still has it mentally because the way he dresses like you know he still feels good about himself there's some plays he makes where you're like guys still got it that guy still got it but then there's this record thing and this losing thing that is just coming in to bite you all in the ass and patriots fans by the way are almost like colts fans the year that we learned that peyton uh had to get his entire uh spine read done or whatever it was and we are losing games showing up with bags on their heads after having the winningest decade in nfl history that's what the internet looked like for
Starting point is 00:17:34 patriots fans last night it is it is oh my god we suck what the hell is going to happen right now full panic up there in new england huh yeah well it stinks to be four and six in the full season two and one in the new season but the silver lining is, we're first in fashion, so that feels good. Definitely first in fashion. Hands down. But you say we're going to go younger. At 4-6... True. Travis Kelsey
Starting point is 00:17:56 is maybe the best dressed guy to ever play a sport. Yeah, he's also the best tight end in the game. He's unbelievable. When we're talking fashion-wise, I think Travis Kelsey deserves best tight end in the game. He's unbelievable. When we're talking fashion-wise. Yes. Fashion-wise, I think Travis Kelsey deserves a little bit more. We're right up there with Travis Kelsey, which feels good. But how are we going to go younger at quarterback if we're four and six
Starting point is 00:18:14 and we're going to have a middle-of-the-road pick? Yeah, but Bill can make a play. Trade up. By the way, yeah, Darnold. There's going to be Drew Locke. Matt Stafford's probably going to be available. Drew Locke's on the block all of a sudden? I do believe Drew Locke is probably on the block over there.
Starting point is 00:18:29 Yeah, I would assume. Now, listen, I'm not saying Drew's done with football or whatever, but there's no way the Broncos are going to go another season with him as their guy, right? I don't think so. I mean, maybe. I've not talked to anybody over there. I haven't watched enough football.
Starting point is 00:18:40 I know he threw four picks last week, and three of them were bad. I know there was another one this week. Now, granted, they did beat the Dolphins. That's the best he's looked all year was yesterday. He didn't get benched. He looked very good yesterday. Oh, you're saying Tua is potentially dead in Miami? Yeah, geez.
Starting point is 00:18:56 And by the way, what if Drew Locke just continues to play like this? Then who knows? Maybe they build around Drew Locke and do that whole thing. Probably going to have a new coach, by the way. the way probably gonna have new everything so it'll be another offensive coordinator another restart but the miami dolphins a team that we thought were gonna be a squad over there in the afc east well they're benching to them 76 of the public money was on the dolphins to cover three and a half i mean everybody, everybody on earth thought this hot Dolphins team with their quarterback saying, hey, the NFL, I thought it would be much harder than it is,
Starting point is 00:19:28 and them winning games and rolling. They go over to Mile High City, Gumpy, and your team lays an egg over there, and then they bench Tua, bring in Fitz Magic, who almost makes magical things happen, gets picked off in the end zone. I'm excited to see what the fuck happens if he leads them on a 99-yard touchdown drive
Starting point is 00:19:44 to get it to overtime, and then they win that thing what do you do next week uh brian flores they said that tua will be starting next week although he got uh bench this particular week is this what you expected as a dolphins fan like hey if tua struggles we do got the magic on the sideline he can maybe bring us back in a game we'll pull him back in put two in he throws a pick all right you're out again and what's the what's the future looking like with Tua? I mean, everything that could have went wrong yesterday did go wrong. They named Tua the starter because they played the Jets this weekend. I mean, it doesn't fucking matter.
Starting point is 00:20:15 I don't know. Flacco's been slinging it. Flacco threw a handoff pick six. He did. It was a handoff. It was maybe the worst pick six I've ever seen. Flacco had – hey, Flacco has won a Super Bowl, okay? Flacco has made $100.
Starting point is 00:20:33 So I don't want to even act as if we are a team that dumps on Flacco. But when Flacco does some things, obviously you've got to talk about it. His pick six yesterday out of his end zone, it's like he told the corner that it was happening i don't even think he looked anywhere else the entire look right at the guy and then he like threw like a lollipop almost in a corner are you kidding me dude what are we even doing here uh the jets are such an interesting team who knows what's gonna happen maybe two will get to win they get back uh the afc east patriots are dead whoa you guys are dead no we just entered the must win season listen you'll win games we're not saying that you're not
Starting point is 00:21:13 going to win another game this season what we're saying though is y'all motherfuckers are out of the conversation now and that's by the way not normal at all it's not we're not happy about it either whenever you see great things die it's tough for all of us but it feels like the Patriots are nowhere near the conversation I mean yesterday was a game if they win everybody go see this what the Patriots are gonna do they're gonna win games and everything like that now it's like probably out of the conversation especially in the AFC which is loaded right very good uh before we get to a break and Ian Rappaport joins us on the other side at Viva Lazzito what is your overreaction Monday poll, pal? Yeah, you got what bet are we hammering tonight? It's actually a very close race here, but Rams plus 4.5 is 24.9%.
Starting point is 00:21:51 Bucks minus 4.5, 27.2. Over, 24.8%. Under, 23.6. So we're all sitting on the under right now. Now listen, bad weekend of gambling for everybody, us included. Got a lot of tweets about how we lost people money. Well, guess what that means? We lost a lot of money too.
Starting point is 00:22:11 Come on. So did the rest of the world. The world, the world. Sportsbook's right this weekend. Who says we can't turn it around tonight? A lot of things. Mostly the trend that we're all happy. And I'm not happy about it And I'm not happy about it.
Starting point is 00:22:25 I'm not happy about it. But this thing's going to get hot. Why not us? Why not us? Well, there's a lot of reasons. It feels like it was because none of us can hit a bat. It feels like nobody. It feels like we're shooting a lot of shots.
Starting point is 00:22:39 And somehow, someway, the rim's moving. Randy Bullock is leaving seven points on the board. The Cincinnati Bengals refuse to block for their franchise guy. Okay, that rim's moving. Randy Bullock is leaving seven points on the board. The Cincinnati Bengals refuse to block for their franchise guy. Okay, that shot's in, and then the hoop just goes see you later. Keep swinging, my friends. Keep swinging.
Starting point is 00:22:56 Fucking unbelievable. We will keep swinging. We will. Have to. We will not give up. Never. We will not quit. We will continue to throw fists with these sportsbooks And their algorithms And their big ass chandeliers And their big bank accounts that are only growing
Starting point is 00:23:12 It feels like every fucking Sunday We will walk Right on to the sportsbooks Emblem right in the middle of their field Come on, they walk out We'll look them right in the face and say Fuck you Fuck you Woo middle of their field yeah they walk out we'll look them right in the face and say fuck you joining us now is a man who has all the inside goods
Starting point is 00:23:33 works for the nfl network he's an insider i think on nfl.com or something like that wow he also does uh stuff on the daily n Show. Ladies and gentlemen, Ian Rappaport. What's up, you rap sheet and friends? Son of a bitch. I knew I was missing something. Host of the Rap Sheet and Friends podcast, which is a great show we all listen to. That's on me. That's on me.
Starting point is 00:23:56 Sorry, you should just write it down. It's easier to remember. I don't do that. I'm like Nick Cannon in Drumline, pal. Can't read the music. Can only duplicate it. Now, let's talk about something, though, here. Ian, did you learn anything about the Vrabel-Hardball incident?
Starting point is 00:24:08 What happened? Were the Titans praying on the emblem? Is that what Hardball broke up? Was one big prayer? Or was that something you think that was premeditated over there? Yeah, I don't know if it was exactly what you would call a pregame prayer. I will say this. exactly what you'd call a pregame prayer.
Starting point is 00:24:23 I will say this. I do really get a kick out of two coaches kind of getting all at each other before the game and chirping and trash talking and all that because then I get to think about the kind of things that I really want to think about, which, all right, if those guys got into a fight, how would it be? I know everyone says that Vrabel is kind of like the odds-on favorite for coaches. If there was like a Royal Rumble, Vrabel would be the one standing in the ring with his arms raised.
Starting point is 00:24:52 It might be true, but do not sleep on Harbaugh. First of all, those Harbaughs are feisty. Oh, yeah. Yeah, they are. I would imagine those two NFL linebacker feisty. Yeah, NFL linebacker feisty. Yeah. NFL linebacker feisty. You know, like fist fight.
Starting point is 00:25:07 Like every single day of your life feisty. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I think it would be a better matchup than people realize. I don't. But I would probably pay to see it. Yeah, I think Vrabel would end that thing very quickly. And that's no disrespect to Harbaugh. That's just an NFL linebacker.
Starting point is 00:25:22 I mean, that's an NFL linebacker, Rappaport. This isn't like, oh, you know, Harbaugh's a tough guy like at the YMCA. I get that. Like this is Vrabel who I think still does linebacker drills in practice to this moment. Yeah, that's – Just jumps right in. Yeah, so I think even if Harbaugh – let's say Harbaugh is feisty
Starting point is 00:25:41 and has good movement, you know, which we can assume he would have good movement. Scrappy, I would say. I think Vrabel would just eat him. Like, I think Vrabel would just eat that. Like, I don't even. Laugh. Yeah, I think he would. You don't think so?
Starting point is 00:25:51 I don't know about that. I mean, I don't think it would be fast. Maybe Vrabel would win. I'm sure he would. But I just don't think it would be fast. Like, I don't think it would be like, you know, Derek Henry running over a corner where it's just like, I don't think it would be that.
Starting point is 00:26:03 I think Vrabel tackles him pretty quick now that I think about it. I think that's a pretty quick tackle. And I think full mount there. And unless Harbaugh's been practicing on jujitsu, which I'm not 100% sure he is, and unless he can get it, I think Vrabel is potentially playing drums with Harbaugh's face very quickly in that game.
Starting point is 00:26:21 I cannot believe the disrespect. Yeah, I think it's... Wow. He might even... Now. Yeah, I think it's... He might even, now listen, he might even take one of Harbaugh's hands with both of his hands, put it under his knee, and then take the other one and put that under his knee. And I think he's potentially even Johnny Bones
Starting point is 00:26:36 Jones' elbow. I think that thing's over very quickly. I can't believe it. You really need to have Harbaugh on to just to say it to his face. I think it would be the only fair thing. No, listen. Hey, that would happen to me, too. Or other Harbaugh.
Starting point is 00:26:49 Hey, if I'm fighting Vrabel, that's happening to me, too. What I think you are disrespecting is Vrabel here. Yeah. I think you're disrespecting Vrabel in this entire thing. Don't turn it around on me. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's you, Rappaport. I see what you did there.
Starting point is 00:27:01 Yeah, you just spit on Vrabel's athleticism and toughness. That's unbelievable. Yeah, that was you. I don't you did there. Yeah, you just spit on Vrabel's athleticism and toughness. That's unbelievable. Yeah, that was you. I don't know about that. But anyway, I think the most interesting thing that happened yesterday, besides those two guys almost fighting at the 50-yard line before the game, is what played out at the end. I mean, I know the Titans are kind of bullies a little bit.
Starting point is 00:27:23 I mean, watching Derek Henry just wear down a defense is, I mean, obviously noteworthy in something. I mean, that's why they have him, so he could basically do what he did yesterday, which is just overwhelm them in overtime and physicality. But it's been fascinating how quickly the questions about the Ravens have arose. I mean, Lamar's kind of getting some questions. Can they play from behind? Can they lead a comeback?
Starting point is 00:27:48 Didn't yesterday, obviously. Got a short week, so it's not going to be like a whole week of questions, but the Ravens are in a kind of precarious spot, I would say, right now. Yeah, what are you hearing out of that locker room? Because a couple weeks ago there was a tweet from Hollywood Brown about not using soldiers. And then last week, Lamar Jackson was on Rich Eisen's show. By the way, I got a chance to chat with Rich this weekend a little bit.
Starting point is 00:28:12 How's he doing? Nice to chat with Rich. I love Rich. Yeah, I'm big Rich Eisen. We're all big Rich Eisen except for Zito. He kind of dunked on Zito one day. But that's going to happen. So I'm going to charge it to the game.
Starting point is 00:28:24 But I got a chance to chat with him a little bit at last week on his show. Lamar Jackson said that we're getting predictable or people are starting to know we're saying, and it feels like this is nowhere near the same big trust. It feels like there's big distrust over there in Baltimore right now. Are you hearing anything out of the locker room? What is it? Is it just because they're not winning as much or not as dominant? And I think, you know, they obviously injuries to losing Ronnie Stanley, one of the best left tackles in football is I mean, everyone has injuries.
Starting point is 00:28:51 They just depends what parts of the team and hits. But I think I do think that's affected them. And Mark Ingram is a year older. J.K. Dobbins is kind of emerged a little bit there in that backfield. But, you know, I think what does happen, you know, this, too, is is everyone catches emerged a little bit there in that backfield. But, you know, I think what does happen, and you know this too, is everyone catches up a little bit, right? Like it is, you take the league by storm, you got something no one's seen before,
Starting point is 00:29:14 you kind of overwhelm everyone with a running quarterback who can also be really, really accurate and, you know, always has the threat of running. So I think that kind of makes the defense pause a little bit. And then everyone goes to school. Everyone spends a lot of season making sure that the MVP doesn't beat them. And that's why it's hard to have sustained success. I mean, and that's why, you know, Patrick Mahomes was, you know, obviously great.
Starting point is 00:29:42 Well, he's been great all the time. But it really, last year there was a point where i feel like not everybody caught up but he almost had to kind of him and andy reed had to kind of reinvent themselves a little bit and that evolution has taken them to the next level like now it's on greg roman and lamar jackson and the ravens to be like all right so people know like okay they've they say they figured it out They can call it our stuff at the line. Like, okay, we can figure stuff out too. How are we going to adapt?
Starting point is 00:30:09 And that's kind of the next place for the Ravens to go. That involves putting your ego aside a lot and kind of moving forward, which is amazing what the Chiefs have been able to do. It's kind of a natural transition there. That's why you're the host of Rap Sheet and Friends. Thanks for getting us to that point. The whole victory lap thing with the uh the raiders bust now granted for us obviously whenever you talk daily about football whenever
Starting point is 00:30:32 something like that pops off it is glorious because it just gives us something to overreact to and be ridiculous about but the fact that andy reed was talking about it okay then gruden obviously got talked about it that was was that an actual sentiment around the chiefs because patrick mahomes was asked about it uh yesterday after the game and he was like uh basically he's wanting to show him that the afc west runs through kansas city but he like he even took like a little bit of uh and when he was asked about the bus he was like yeah it was good to get a win let's move on but i think andy reed actually used that as real motivation within the
Starting point is 00:31:05 building and man what a good win for them to get on the road that raiders team is a lot better i think than anybody's giving them credit for yeah i mean first of all i do think they were kind of pissed i mean i i remember hearing this stuff early in the week and andy reed was kind of like yeah we you know we we noticed that and like i i do think they used it as kind of bullshit board material i honestly didn't even remember it i had to look it up and just like ask some questions about it because i'm like what is everybody so angry about but basically what happened was um the raiders were were leaving arrowhead and they had a local bus driver someone just you know whose job it is to drive their bus
Starting point is 00:31:42 normal and that guy was and that guy was talking trash. And he basically told the Raiders bus, enjoy this now. This is not going to happen next time. And so the Raiders brass told him to drive around again and do a victory lap. Because the bus driver was talking trash. And so...
Starting point is 00:32:02 John Grun, I'll tell you what, man. Hey, take another fucking lap man all right you want to keep running your little fat mouth over there okay go ahead and do another lap i assume that's basically exactly what it was oh i didn't i didn't know this because like i mean this is whatever but i will say all this as you know football coaches will take the smallest slightest thing and use it to their advantage and i'm here for all of it every sort of manufactured bulletin board material i are i am fully supportive of so if that is what led patrick mahomes to lead them down the field like they were just rolling along and get the game-winning touchdown like i'm i'm okay with that travis kelsey an absolutely
Starting point is 00:32:43 unbelievable football player andy reed by the way, what we were talking about with Lamar Jackson, Andy Reid is a wizard. And the ego aside thing that I was talking about with the Baltimore Ravens, which isn't just Lamar to reinvent himself or reinvent that offense, it's also going to have to be the coaches who normally think they're smarter than everybody else and our plan, our system works. We just have to execute, execute, execute. It feels like andy reed
Starting point is 00:33:05 is a guy who is completely okay with changing to whatever works last night lev bell started getting a little bit more involved i'm excited to see what they pull off as we go down another afc team that is currently undefeated the pittsburgh steelers just uh absolutely dog walk the jacksonville jaguars which is not normal for the Pittsburgh Steelers, by the way. Pittsburgh Steelers, that is a game that throughout their history would play it close. Like they would win, but all Steelers fans would be like, come on, we're better than this, we're better than this. But also, they're 26-4 or something like that since 2004
Starting point is 00:33:37 against rookie quarterbacks, so you knew they were okay. Now conversation is we have to score more points, we have to do this. It seems like they're potentially thinking ahead, like, hey, we're going to have to keep up with the Chiefs if we want to score more points we have to do this it seems like they're potentially thinking ahead like hey we're gonna have to keep up with the chiefs if we want to go for this thing and nfc we're gonna have to keep it going is mike tomlin and steelers trying to find anything to keep them motivated at this point knowing that the perfect season is inevitably going to come to an end at some point maybe on thursday against the ravens yeah i mean first of
Starting point is 00:34:02 all if the ravens do that on thursday I think that would probably answer a lot of those questions. It's weird with the Steelers because they are awesome. They are complete. Their defense is very good. Ben is probably the last two or maybe three games, I guess two games really, throwing it as well as he's thrown it. I mean, in a long time, right? Like I guess it sounded like the elbow surgery is probably something
Starting point is 00:34:24 that might even let him prolong his career just because he's, he's probably in as little pain as he's been and he really is throwing it very well. They are a great team
Starting point is 00:34:35 and I don't hear people talk about them enough as being a great team. I just hear people like you say, oh, they're probably going to lose. They're not going to be perfect. Oh, you don't listen to this show.
Starting point is 00:34:44 You listen to stupid shows on NFL Network. We've been talking about the Steelers this whole time. We won. We've been talking Steelers this whole time. People say, hey, he's down there big time. Steelers are homers almost. Let's talk
Starting point is 00:35:00 about another team that's on the up and up here and a record that should be chatted about with Sean Payton. New Orleans Saints under Sean Payton here in the last couple years, I guess 6-0 with new quarterbacks, or 6-1⁄2-0 now, if you count the half that Jameis Winston was in a week ago. Five games with Teddy last year, half a game there with Jameis last week. Taysom Hill yesterday, who in the first half,
Starting point is 00:35:22 I think a lot of people were wondering what the hell did Sean Payton see in him? Then second half, making great plays and added dimension to that offense. What is Sean Payton and what are you hearing about the New Orleans Saints with Taysom Hill's debut yesterday? Because I thought he looked damn good. Michael Thomas had to love him being in there. He has a big game as well. And that defense is ridiculous in New Orleans.
Starting point is 00:35:44 That defense is ridiculous. They Orleans. That defense is ridiculous. They are. I mean, and, like, Sean Payton's great. And the fact that he went with his gut and put Taysom out there when I'm sure everybody in the world thought he was crazy and he was great, like, that's all fun. That defense is a championship defense. And, I mean, the focus is on the offense,
Starting point is 00:36:03 but, like, what they have done the past several weeks has been just awesome. But, you know, my day on Sunday is basically like everyone else. Like I sit around and watch games. What happens is when people aren't in games, like teams or agents or whatever, they'll text me just random thoughts on the game because obviously they know I'm watching. And everybody thought it was real funny that Sean Payton chose Taysom Hill in the first half and then the second half it was
Starting point is 00:36:29 not so funny because what happened was you kind of put some stuff together and you realize that he's running the offense fine and then they're productive and then he scores a couple touchdowns and then they win by 20 right I mean it was just so kind of slow, methodical, efficient, like just a good quarterback. And so I don't know what the future holds for Taysom Hill, but if we all wanted to find out, like, could this guy be the starting quarterback for the Saints for the next three years or four years or whatever, I think we found out that he can.
Starting point is 00:37:02 And that's from a guy they literally just claimed off waivers. That is astounding. It really is. Hey, Taysom Hill's got donkey legs now. He had four, what, season-ending injuries to his legs in college or whatever whenever he was playing at BYU. His legs are massive. And he's incredibly quick and fast.
Starting point is 00:37:23 And in the second half, he was throwing balls where they had to be. He was leading receivers. There was a couple times where he backed out of pressure and moved. It was like the first half, everybody was judging him very hard on the internet for whatever reason, obviously, because Jameis was sitting there, who threw for 5,000 yards. But in the second half, you saw a lot of people go like, is Taysom Hill for real the next Steve Young?
Starting point is 00:37:44 Like, is Taysom Hill? There was somebody tweeting this morning in our Pat I Don't Want to Overreact But hashtag where they were saying, Taysom Hill will be better than Lamar Jackson within one year or whatever. I'm like, holy, that guy wasn't the MVP! Big trust is all lost, dude.
Starting point is 00:38:00 Distrust down there, dude. Gotta do what you gotta do. Joey Burrow. Okay, sad situation number one overall pick a man who's been playing great football for a franchise that didn't want to keep him around it felt like ever since the beginning i mean you go back to week three against philadelphia eagles where joe burrow's head almost gets dislodged from his body and you're like oh that's the nfl that's gonna happen it's like i don't think it should like i just don't think it should last year when they were trying to win games, they only won one.
Starting point is 00:38:26 This year they've only won two or three or something like that. You get your franchise guy hurt. What is the messaging around there? Is Zach Taylor safe for the time being as the coach for the Bengals? Or do you think that's going to be a job that's open? And what are you hearing about Joe Burrow? Yeah, I mean, first of all, on Zach Taylor, I have not gotten the sense that that's a job that's in jeopardy.
Starting point is 00:38:46 I have not gotten that sense at all. It seems like, and believe me, I mean, there's plenty that are in jeopardy. I have not gotten the sense that that one is in jeopardy at all. And I think for a young offensive mind who has a quarterback who believes in him, I mean, they're clearly not perfect. I think personnel, they've got a ways to go. Could use a couple, many players on defense. They tried to sign some.
Starting point is 00:39:10 One hadn't played all year. DJ Reader got hurt. I mean, they've had a lot of injuries. Ship Carlos Dunlap. I have not gotten the sense that Zach Taylor's in trouble at all, in part because of the work he's done with Joe Burrow. Okay. As for Burrow, you know, he's going to end up being out for the season. Init done with Joe Burrow. As for Burrow,
Starting point is 00:39:26 he's going to end up being out for the season. Initial diagnosis was an ACL. I think everyone knew as soon as the card came out, this is going to be bad. Look at that. You can always tell what a guy means to the league when the opponents come over and they're like,
Starting point is 00:39:41 man, I'm just going to respect this guy. Burrow is a rock, I'm just going to respect this guy. Burrow is a rock star. He is going to be fine, but he is in for a very long rehab here. Yeah, this is going to, I mean, he's a tough dude. Obviously, Rust Belt guy. He's going to be able to get through it, but we always talk about this. Like, oh, he's got rehab.
Starting point is 00:39:58 He'll be back, and everybody just takes that for granted. Rehab sucks. Can't say that enough. Rehab. And this is going to suck, especially. Yeah, absolutely. Connor, what do you got? Raf, speaking of jobs in jeopardy,
Starting point is 00:40:07 is this the last year that Peterson and Wentz are in Philly? And if so, when are they going to go with Jalen Hurts just to see what they got? I don't believe that teams really do the see what you got thing, right? I don't see it. I think coaches want to win, and usually they, whatever they see in practice is what they think it is. There's not a lot of examples where a guy gets out on the game field
Starting point is 00:40:33 and they're like, all right, wow, I didn't realize this guy was this good. I think with the Cowboys and Dak, he was a much better game player than he was practice player, so maybe that's one example. But I don't think they're just going to put Jalen Hurts out there to see what he's got. I think they're going to ride Carson Wentz and Doug Peterson until they just cannot anymore. I mean, Doug won a Super Bowl. Carson is their franchise guy who they pay a lot of money.
Starting point is 00:40:56 They need this to work. They need it to work. And I believe they're going to be committed to making it work until they have absolutely zero chance of it ever happening they stink what do you got yeah rap sheet big dolphins fan here i'm just curious what you think about what they did with two yesterday bringing in fitzpatrick yeah is he on the hot seat is he the future for sure still is two of the future still i believe two is the future i liked it i mean to me like you want accountability in the locker room, you want credibility. You want to get your players to know that you will treat them all the same regardless of when they were drafted. Bench the quarterback of the future for performance. Like it's okay. It's no crime to not play well enough. We've all had bad days. We've all played bad. It just means
Starting point is 00:41:41 that you hold everyone accountable. And then for Flores standing up in the locker room and saying it basically like, yeah, I benched him for a performance, like kudos to him. Truth. Truth will help. Truth will let your players know that you mean business. They're not down on Tua at all. I mean, he's been great the last several games. Just wasn't yesterday, so they went to Fitzpatrick.
Starting point is 00:42:01 And they're going to go back to Tua for the next game. But it does send the message, like, if you're not doing your job, you could also get benched. So that's basically what Eagles fans want to do with Wentz and Hurts, right? Yeah, but it is not happening. I get the sense Tua is still learning. Carson is way past that. If you bench Carson Wentz, you are going very, very, very quickly in the complete opposite direction, and everything changes.
Starting point is 00:42:33 Ty. Rapsheet. Are the Packers going to get rid of Mike Pettin at the end of the year? Are they going to, like, extend him for another five, six years? That's a big Packers fan right there, by the way. I would say that is is a i don't think anything's happening imminently but if the defensive struggles continue that'll obviously be one to let's say check on at the end of the year now for the packers i mean they're going in the
Starting point is 00:42:55 playoffs they're probably going to go deep in the playoffs um it is hard to play defense in general this year um true but i do think that'll be an area where i will last year at the end of the year i will probably ask some questions uh cutting job status rap sheet we appreciate you taking time you know you've been here for a while i assume you have some news to break at ian rapapar on uh the twitter machine a lot of people that's not your thing what is your twitter handle rap sheet that's on me that on me. Probably should have wrote that down, but drumline. You know what I mean? From the beginning.
Starting point is 00:43:27 Yeah, I hear you. A lot of people on the internet saying you're an absolute stooge for thinking that Harbaugh could even come close to holding himself together in a fight against Frabel. Just want to let you know. A lot of people on the internet saying it. They're all wrong. I can't believe what you're saying. You people are crazy.
Starting point is 00:43:45 Ladies and gentlemen, at Rap Sheet, host of Rap Sheet and Friends, Ian Rappaport. Thank you, Rappaport. He's awesome. Yeah, and he is also very wrong. Yeah, dude. Come on. Listen, I understand he's feisty, okay? He probably is a tough guy.
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Starting point is 00:46:42 joining us now is a man that is a kicker for a team That has made a hell of a play And a hell of a run in the AFC South Yesterday, he put a 39-yard dagger Into the Green Bay Packers faithful Ladies and gentlemen, from the University of Georgia Goes by the rat name Blanco Ladies and gentlemen, Hot Rod,
Starting point is 00:47:05 respect the specs, Rodrigo Blankenship. What up, Dom? What's up? Thanks for having me. Hey, no problem. How do you feel on this beautiful victory Monday after going 4-5? We'll talk about the 50-yarder. That can't happen. I know you're like stronger than that. Something
Starting point is 00:47:23 might have happened, but the way you bounced back after that and hit the ball so pure, there wasn't even a question on any of the kicks yesterday. What was the mindset like going into that game, winner? And how do you feel this morning, brother? I mean, it's great. I'm blessed to be here, blessed to be a part of this incredible organization that you've been a part of as well.
Starting point is 00:47:43 I mean, we got a real good thing going, and, you know, I'm really just blessed to be here. What's the mindset going out for that kick, Rod? I mean, the mindset's, you know, the same as every other kick. You know, that's how you have success, I think, that you know as well as anybody. You know, you have to be consistent with your approach and with your process and preparation for every single opportunity, regardless of, you know, whether it's a 50-yarder in the middle of the game
Starting point is 00:48:06 or, you know, a game winner there in overtime. You have to have the same process and the same mentality that you're going out to do your job and execute at a high level. Whenever you stroke the ball, you're a great ball hitter, man. It's one of the things that I look at whenever I'm looking at younger kickers, because there's a lot of kickers, by the way, rookie kickers that are great in college, okay? That's why you get in the NFL, you get get a chance and then they fade out and then they hit
Starting point is 00:48:28 the kicker carousel where they're on the workouts and maybe they'll get hot but normally more often than not guys kind of fade out and the easiest way to look at that and view that on who's going to make it is what their ball rotation is right like what's the ball rotation if it's a little fat if it if there's a there's a good chance that kicker is probably going to miss more kicks than not because the ball is going to move in the air because of science you hit the ball so damn pure every single time it's been awesome to watch you become an nfl kicker because you're getting very you're good you're damn good and it's not easy for a rookie kicker to come in here especially following adam venetieri and do what you've done it's been fun to watch you work, brother.
Starting point is 00:49:05 Thank you so much. You know, it's an awesome opportunity. You know, like I said, you know, it's just a blessing to be here. And, yeah, you know, I'm just trying to be true to myself, be true to my technique because it's allowed me to have a lot of success up to this point. You know, I'm just trying to trust it and, you know, just go out there, be smooth, and hit my ball and trust that it's going to start straight and end straight.
Starting point is 00:49:25 What the hell happened on that 50-yarder? That can't happen. I saw a ball in college. You hit like a 55-yarder in a massive game. I think it was a game winner or something like that. You have the leg strength. What happened on that one? Did you hit a little low?
Starting point is 00:49:38 Did you duff a little? Did you not swing full? What do you think happened? Yeah, I chucked the ground a little bit. You know, we actually just got out of our meeting earlier going over all the game tape. And, yeah, you know, I chunked the ground and felt it immediately. I've been really trying to focus on, you know, getting elevation and getting ball high at the line of scrimmage to make sure that we're not risking any, you know, any tips or deflections at the line of scrimmage.
Starting point is 00:50:02 It's something I've been working on for a long time. And, you know, I've tried to make contact a little bit lower on the ball than usual. And I think on that particular rep, you know, just kind of overthink it a little bit, you know, which is any specialist's worst, you know, worst enemy is overthinking it and just ended up swinging, you know, really too low. My swing path was just really too low and chunked the ground right before contact. And that, you know, cut off my swing. You know, I was watching it. OK okay and it hits and it goes back and my first thought was this kid's a fucking human dude this is because the moment the nfl yeah that's that's literally
Starting point is 00:50:35 what i thought the nfl with money on the line now listen you played big time sec football i was at the sec championship game last year against i. I mean, I've seen you in those big moments. Those are big moments mentally, right? And a lot of people are like, you know, what's the difference between, because some guys can't make it in the NFL out of college for whatever reason. And I think the money, the whole thing, I just think there's a lot involved in it. And your transition has been so smooth. And I think it's because you've been just this pop sensation for the last three four years I mean you are a guy that everybody on earth was rooting for coming out of college not just Georgia
Starting point is 00:51:10 Bulldogs because of the specs and because of the big kick for those that don't know your story maybe the rec specs not only do they look awesome and not only do you you probably help out a lot of kids that potentially have to wear them and say like hey that's one that's somebody who looks like me who's up there but why are the specs a thing and uh do you think they give you an added advantage because you kind of have blinders on at all times you know what i mean you're only focused on one thing yeah i mean uh i probably i i had to wear i had to wear glasses for a long time i've been wearing glasses since like seventh or eighth grade and uh and you know started wearing specs actually to play basketball in high school and just carried them over into soccer and into football um you know ever since then so you know i've had the specs for a real long time and
Starting point is 00:51:57 uh you know they just become part of me and part of my identity and um you know i think it just speaks to you know anybody that you know that looks up to me or or you know, I think it just speaks to, you know, anybody that, you know, that looks up to me or, you know, can take it after me and being comfortable in their own skin. You know, it's just something that I've always liked and I've always thought it's made me unique. You know, I see a lot of stuff on Twitter and Instagram, you know, of people, you know, with like posting Iron Man, you know, type memes and pictures and edits of like what's really going on in Rod's spec. And that's always pretty cool. You know, it's like the little targeting system, stuff like that. I've seen some, you know, some funny edits and memes like that. But yeah, you know, I just rock them and you know, they just go with, go with me everywhere.
Starting point is 00:52:36 You got to respect the specs. Also you launch a clothing line and your people reach out to me to give me stuff. Yeah. I want to let you know, we, we wanted to buy it to support the biz we understand the biz so we've bought a bunch of stuff hey no problem go ahead and get a plug for this right now we uh i'm pumped for you building your own business brother what is i appreciate it yeah um we uh we launched the merchandise line after um after our thursday night game last week um and for anybody that wants to you know that wants to support wants to get some
Starting point is 00:53:05 respect the specs merch i'm wearing one of them right now it's a good shirt yeah um you can go to uh rodrigo blankenship.shop and um all the stuff that we have available right now uh is on there um we've got this design we've got uh an eye exam type design that i really like with walk-on mentality and respect the specs. And we've got the, the Ironman design as well. That's been really popular from a lot of people that I've seen posting their purchases on Instagram and Twitter.
Starting point is 00:53:32 That's been a really popular design as well. So if anyone wants to go support, I would greatly appreciate it. We bought two of each by the way, cause I really, I respect your business, man. I do.
Starting point is 00:53:42 I respect it. I like that you're doing it. But also, just a few days after launching a store, by the way, if you have a bad game, everybody's going to shit on you. Instead, you go four or five, hit a game winner. How you doing? Keep it moving. I can do more than one thing.
Starting point is 00:53:57 Good, good. Way to go. That's an awesome thing. The walk-on mentality. I see you pitching that a lot. So I would assume, I mean, let's not do big brain stuff here, but you walked on it, George, I would assume. You obviously end up earning the starting role in a scholarship.
Starting point is 00:54:12 And then for the Colts, this is such a perfect thing for your story because you and I were supposed to do an ESPN NFL Instagram live chat, day of draft, third day of the draft, or Sunday of the draft or whatever and we're supposed to talk about our draft days and I was supposed to ask you how you were feeling and everything like that where I live now that you know Indianapolis a little bit better there isn't great wi-fi like there isn't great wi-fi where I live couldn't connect but we did get a chance to chat aside from that on the draft day and I think the thing i told you was like there was teams that told me they were going to draft me and they didn't so um no matter how today ends up you're going to get a
Starting point is 00:54:50 shot just go make the most of it then you end up that exact thing happening you get overlooked by every single team even after hitting 55 yarders in the rose bowl even after playing in all these massive games have these big moments and all this they look over you and you get a chance to come to the Colts. Why? I assume there was options. Why did you come to the Colts? And whenever that draft day ends and you don't get your name heard, what was the feeling there? Yeah, you know, I think it was, you know, just the feeling was like, you know, I've got a little bit of a chip on my shoulder now. You know, like you said, I'd walked on at Georgia and, you know, it kind of felt like that all over again. It kind of felt like being a walk on all over again. And, you know, you kind of have to have
Starting point is 00:55:32 that chip on your shoulder that, you know, you're going to be out to have something to prove every single day for the rest of your life, for the rest of your career. You know, why the Colts? I just developed a really great relationship with coach Bubba and with coach Frankie, our awesome special teams coordinators that we've got. You know, they had, they had always, you know, been very honest and very, you know, upfront and forthcoming with me throughout the entire process that they were very interested in me. And, you know, I just, you know, developed a really great relationship with them that I felt, you know,
Starting point is 00:56:01 surpassed the relationships I had built with all the other coaches from the other organizations that had shown interest. And, you know, so when the draft started to dwindle down there at the end and the last few picks were rolling in, you know, they were, you know, making their voices heard, you know, to be very clear that they were very interested. And, you know, I felt like it would be a great organization to come to. Obviously, you know, Colts have established a precedent for having some top of the line specialists. Obviously, most recently with Vinny and with yourself and Luke and Rego now, you know, are doing a dang good job and have been for the last, you know, four years or so. And so I just felt like there had been a precedent established for,
Starting point is 00:56:39 you know, high end performance at the specialist position. And, you know, I felt like it would be a really great place for me to wind up. It's great. By the way, Rigoberto Sanchez gets nowhere near the amount of credit he deserves, too. That dude is incredibly talented. He plays much different than I do, but we basically have the same strategy. He is unbelievable. And Tarzan, your long snapper, is the most yoked dude I've seen in my entire life.
Starting point is 00:57:01 Especially you guys are incredible to watch, man. It's a lot of fun. Connor, what do you got? Hot Rod, you mentioned going online and, like, seeing the funny memes of you locked in. But do you ever go on there and see kind of negative stuff? And does that affect you or does it more motivate you to kind of get better at kicking?
Starting point is 00:57:15 I mean, it comes with the territory. You know, I think that the specialist positions have increased in visibility among fans over the years. You know, I think, you know, kickers now are some of the more popular players on the team where if you think specialist positions have increased in visibility among fans over the years. You know, I think, you know, kickers now are some of the more popular players on the team where if you think back however many years, you know, 30, 40 years, they were probably some of the least visible. But now, you know, some of the most popular players across the league,
Starting point is 00:57:37 at least I think, you know, are some team specialists. You know, I think guys like Justin Tucker and Harrison Butker are names that everybody knows across the league. And it's because they're dang good at their jobs and make big kicks. And now the positions are becoming more and more visible. And so I think that that just kind of comes with the territory, having a lot of interaction and a lot of feedback from the fans, both positive and negative. It's just something you have to deal with and, you know, just have a plan for it. You know, I've started a new part of my routine this year with my social media where, you know,
Starting point is 00:58:11 I'll make my traditional pregame post the night before the game and just kind of let it ride. And, you know, when I wake up the next morning, I turn off the comments. And that way, regardless of whatever happens in the game, good or bad, you know, you're not getting a ton of stuff from the fans after the game good or bad uh you know you're not getting a ton of stuff from the fans uh after the game coming in and flooding your system and i think that that's really helped me to you know be able to maintain a good headspace after the game and just be able to go about the rest of my business in a good way after the game that's a smart idea that's really and good for you for not even looking at it yeah you don't do the twitter
Starting point is 00:58:43 probably smart twitter's yeah i mean i i get on twitter and you know i i check it out i like to And good for you for not even looking at it. You don't do the Twitter? Probably smart. Twitter's good. Yeah, I mean, I get on Twitter and, you know, I check it out. I like to obviously support the Colts, support the Dogs in every way I can. So if we're watching the UGA games on Saturdays, then I'll go on and tweet a little while. But, yeah, you know, try and stay away from Twitter in the immediate aftermath of the game just to avoid any of that stuff. Your time at Georgia was awesome.
Starting point is 00:59:05 I mean, you have a rap song. It's very good, too. Like, you go. Like, you go in the rap song. Blanco, there's pictures of you, I think, at Quavo. I'm not 100% sure, I believe. And then at the University of Georgia, you're beloved by everybody down there. What a run down there as a Georgia Bulldog.
Starting point is 00:59:21 There's no way you could have expected any of that to happen. Or maybe you did. I don't know. Maybe I'm wrong. There's no way you could have expected any of that to happen. Or maybe you did. I don't know. Maybe I'm wrong. No, no. I think, you know, I think my experience at UGA was beyond my wildest dreams. You know, I never could have imagined, you know, having your name called in the starting lineup on the video boards before games
Starting point is 00:59:39 and the whole stadium, you know, going crazy for you. It was, you know, beyond my wildest dreams, everything that happened, you know, we had such an incredible run there and I was so blessed to have, you know, so many opportunities to play in big games, go to the playoffs, play in the SEC championship game, national championship game. Um, yeah, it was just unreal. Yeah, I think so. It's only going to get better, brother. It seems like the team you're on is a young group. Seems like they're ready to go. Now granted, Phillip's like going to get better, brother. It seems like the team you're on is a young group. It seems like they're ready to go. Now, granted, Phillip's like 77 years old and can still sling it or whatever, but it feels like there's a young culture there in Indianapolis
Starting point is 01:00:12 that I believe you're going to be a part of for a long time. In with Rigoberto kicking off for you. I mean, let's go. Let's keep it going. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, that is a good thing. I think we've got a real good thing going. Really talented guys in a lot of positions across the board.
Starting point is 01:00:27 We've got a lot of young talent, and we're only getting better. Hey, congrats on the game winner yesterday. Congrats on a hell of a start to your career here. Can't wait to watch you. Ladies and gentlemen, Hot Rod, Rodrigo Blanket. Joining us is a man who's a national champion in college football, a Super Bowl champion in the NFL. He lives in the Columbus, Ohio.
Starting point is 01:00:51 Ladies and gentlemen, A.J. Hawk. Let's go! What's going on, dude? What's happening? How are you guys doing so far? Not too bad. We've had a great day. Just want to let you know we've been on one today. There seems to be a special. I think because Week 11 is about finished
Starting point is 01:01:05 in six weeks basically until the end of the season and the playoffs are in there. We've been on what we like to call a run here and it seems like there is light at the end of the tunnel and that's been great for everybody. Also, Thanksgiving is a few days away. Turkey, stuffing, apple pie, everything that goes on
Starting point is 01:01:22 with that. So we feel good. How do you feel? I want to get your take on something, though, AJ, real quick. I hope you feel good, by the way. You didn't give me a chance to answer that question. It's on me. It happens a lot on this show. Mike Vrabel, friend of yours? Would you say friend of yours?
Starting point is 01:01:37 Yeah. Okay. Ian Rapoport of the NFL Network came on here earlier today, and I talked about it. I said, hey, how did this come about? What are you hearing from both sides? And he said, you know, a lot of people are discounting Harbaugh. I think Harbaugh is feisty or whatever.
Starting point is 01:01:51 I said, I said, Rabel would speed bag Harbaugh. And he was like, the Harbaugh family, blah, blah. I'm like, nope, nope, nope. He didn't play middle linebacker in the NFL or whatever. He would die. And he was like, he's tough, though. I'm like, hey, listen, maybe it's the YMCA. He's a tough guy.
Starting point is 01:02:07 Okay, I understand that. And I assume Harbaugh could beat me up. Okay, I'm not even saying that. But when you're comparing somebody who looks like he could drink a 30-pack and smoke two packs of cigarettes in one hour and is still doing middle linebacker drills as a grown-ass man, you've got to put him up there as probably a guy who could eat a hardball punch or two and speed bag him and rap was like oh you're disrespecting our boss like i think you're
Starting point is 01:02:31 disrespecting vrabel so that's now that you're caught up with the entire conversation it led us to this graphic right here because we have to break this thing down you knowing vrabel aside from just the obvious numbers six four two sixty one to 6'1 200 he's he's uh you know 13 years younger than Harbaugh he's won more Super Bowls he has 13 years of NFL experience and Harbaugh did not participate what do you think aside from this would tell you that that Vrabel is probably the head coach in the NFL you would not want to fight if you're anybody let alone John Harbaugh it's not even a question and you can anybody let alone John Harbaugh it's not even a question and you can call me biased or whatever I used to work out with Vrabel when he
Starting point is 01:03:09 was still playing in the league before he got into coaching and he is he's one of those guys that's an absolute physical freak he can do he could stay he could legit stay up for three days straight and come in and run 20 gassers in the conditioning test and beat every single college player there like that's that's great that's who he is like he's he's tough as nails he doesn't care he doesn't know he's not going to apologize and he's very professional he's crazy smart too so you package that together no there's no chance and this is taking nothing away from hardball i wouldn't mess with him he's a tough dude like i would not want to mess with him but also vrabel i think he would subscribe to you know the thought that hey if it's a fight like there's no rules like zero rules so people always think oh I've seen someone go up to an MMA
Starting point is 01:03:51 guy like a legit fighter but hey so if I was getting a street fight what do I do he said kick him in the dick first thing I would do the guy's like what do you mean he's like it's a street fight there's no rules that's what I do kick him in the dick then I can do whatever I want with I think Vrabel may he would do whatever it took to win. The thing about Vrabel is, I think he tackles hardball within the first second. Like, even while tackling, he might eat two punches. But maybe, hey, give hardball, if he's got hands like Ali, 50 punches. If he lands while he's tackling him, you know, maybe 10, whatever it is.
Starting point is 01:04:23 I think Vrabel eats those for dinner and then tackles them, and he's on the ground. And that's all she wrote for Harbaugh. They would have to – defense alignment and offense alignment would have to come get him off because Vrabel, probably still stronger than a lot of players in the NFL still trains. It was wild to me. That was a very interesting situation.
Starting point is 01:04:40 I like it, by the way, if coaches are kind of smart. Like, I'm a big fan of that. So, although we're saying Harbaugh would have lost that fight, which I don't think Harbaugh should take any offense to, I would like to let him know I like it whenever coaches are mixing it up. I'm a fan of that move. Both teams love it, too, that both their head coaches are kind of standing up. It started, it sounds like, Harbaugh got upset that they were doing something
Starting point is 01:05:03 around their logo, right? At the 50? Yes. And so Harbaugh felt like, oh, I need to go out there and protect the field or whatever, whatever that means. And so his players probably think, hey, it's cool. We understand our coach is feisty. He's not scared. And, of course, Vrabel is game for whatever you want to do. So, yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:18 And then they ended it when Vrabel just tries to give him the old handshake and gets blown off. And you could see Vrabel run away just so like, all right, cool. This isn't over. that's for sure. Were you too surprised that no Ravens players went out there? That's what I'm saying. That should have been the players, I think, that do that. That's why I think Vrabel – I think that was potentially what Vrabel was saying too, by the way.
Starting point is 01:05:37 Was like – Was probably saying, don't talk to my players. I know I've seen coaches over time, they get really, really upset if an opposing coach tries to talk to your players. Coach. Tell them what they should do. Like coach or teach them. Like this is how you should act or something.
Starting point is 01:05:53 Anything but like, hey, man, how you doing? How's the fam? Like that's especially pregame. Like that's the most you want out of an opposing coach. Man, opposing coaches were always so nice to me, but you could see how a coach would be like hey listen don't fucking coach my boys okay don't coach my boys pal you have your position position group too haven't you seen that pat we're like uh say a uh db coach wants to say
Starting point is 01:06:18 something to a d lineman during practice that d line coach is gonna try to fight that db coach on the spot that's well i don't know about that i'm happy to hear that that happens though because there's a little bit of competitive fire everywhere but it's um it's an interesting thing because rabel was probably thinking to himself why don't you coach your guys up on how to protect your field like that was probably while harbaugh's telling his guys like uh like oh don't do that you shouldn't that's not how the game is played rabel is probably oh, also, game not played with the coach having to come out and talk to the other team for doing something. So what an interesting moment.
Starting point is 01:06:52 By the way, great game. Great game. Great game. There could be a lot of distress over there in Baltimore. We have some breaking news and update, though, here while I try to – it was kind of like uh one of those finger trap games when you get your hands like that's kind of what my headphones were like there as the battery died mid-sentence from aj hawk uh adam shepard is reporting that an mri has
Starting point is 01:07:16 revealed more damage than anticipated for bangles quarterback joe burrow he tore his acl mcl and suffered other structural issues in his knee as well, per at Ben underscore baby and me. So Ben Baby and Adam Schefter are breaking the news. We don't mean to laugh, but I did not know Ben Baby was in the insider game. Shout out to him. That's a massive injury. A couple quick thoughts here before we get to A.J. Hawk's thoughts. His face going off the field.
Starting point is 01:07:49 I don't think he was crying. I don't think he was anything beat up. Is Joe Burrow the toughest son of a bitch maybe to ever walk? Might be. Because just a few weeks ago, his head almost got dislodged from his body during a hit with the Philadelphia Eagles, if you do recall. Came back in the game, led them to a tie. But still, came back in and played the game with everybody.
Starting point is 01:08:09 He takes massive shots. He tore his ACL, MCL, and had structural issues, which probably means bones of some sort happened. And he just ate that. Guy's tough. This sucks. This is a very sad day for the NFL, for the Cincinnati Bengals. I think they should have protected him a lot more. This was almost, I don't want to say obvious,
Starting point is 01:08:28 that this was something like this was potentially going to happen. We can't wait to see him back. Let's hope when he comes back he doesn't get beat up as much as a quarterback in the NFL. I mean, yeah, it's awful. And I think he's going to be fine. And I know you talk about rehab and how tough it is. Yeah, it's brutal.
Starting point is 01:08:42 It's going to be a brutal first six months probably, and it's going to be a brutal first six months probably, and it's going to be tough because he wants to get back out there with his guys. I just wonder, does he stay in the protocol? Does he do everything at the stadium, or is he going to be removed? I'm sure he doesn't even know that yet, but that's another interesting situation when it comes to COVID. We talked to Taylor LeJuan. Taylor LeJuan opted out of staying in the protocol,
Starting point is 01:09:01 and he's getting his rehab at a place which I would assume has a very tight relationship with the Titans. the doctors have to know each other rather well i don't think that's something that is just okayed everywhere but i would if joe burrow has to stay in that protocol yeah that's been a rough first year but hey gonna earn your stride let him do whatever he wants yeah i agree that's a bad bad injury what's up digs i've seen a tweet here that it's a multi-igament injury, just like Carson Wentz had a couple years ago, and he got hurt on December 10th, so two weeks later,
Starting point is 01:09:30 and he missed the first two games of the season. Oh, yeah, I remember that. I remember whenever that happened. That's sad, man. He was balling. He took some massive shots, though, dude. A minute before two minutes before he did that he took a massive shot an unbelievable play by chase young his old
Starting point is 01:09:50 buddy like that shot alone could have put should have put it would have put most guys out i think people were just running through some i mean the internet now because we put out we talked about this in the first hour i believe and basically said like at some point an adult in the first hour, I believe, and basically said, like, at some point, an adult in the room had to be like, we should run the ball, maybe, or do something. Like, somebody, an adult in the room should have said, this dude has the most head shots, body shots, and leg shots as a quarterback in the NFL. This guy has now the most pass attempts in the NFL. At some point, I think somebody should have tried to protect Joe Burrow from himself, but people try to do that, I guess, with luck. Sometimes that's just how guys play or whatever,
Starting point is 01:10:29 but it felt like the Bengals really mismanaged this entire thing, and we're almost trying to get him killed. After the writing was on the wall the first couple weeks, he's going to take some... It's a bummer all the way around. It's an absolute bummer. It's like, who will be his head coach next year? Will it still be Zach? I guess that's obvious, everybody said. Probably probably you would think it'd still be Zach
Starting point is 01:10:47 Taylor I guess I mean who really knows what they're thinking but if you're Zach Taylor though that's kind of a tough position to be put in like okay I gotta find a way to win games I gotta find a way to hold on to my job yeah I can see this this young guy who's going to be a stud is taking way too much too many shots but how do I still got to find that fine balance, though, of still trying to attack, still trying to push the ball down the field. You can't have everything be super quick, three-step drop game, like everything quick game. But I guess the only thing you could try to do is limit the amount Joe
Starting point is 01:11:15 gets outside the pocket and takes unnecessary risks. I think you could quick game it, couldn't you? I mean, it felt like – For a little bit. I mean, that's not going to work all game most likely. Works for a lot of people, right? Isn't that kind of what Peyton did? It's what Drew does. I mean, it felt like a little bit for a little. I mean, that's not going to work all game. Most likely works for a lot of people, right? And that kind of what Peyton did. It's what Drew does.
Starting point is 01:11:27 I mean, it's Peyton could still push it down the field of Marvin Harrison. That's for sure. Yeah, they were awesome. But that was a lot of timing routes because he was throwing it so quickly. And those balls were coming out so early in those routes. You look at some of those old highlights of Peyton throwing to people. And Ben Roethlisberger had one this weekend to Johnson, by the way, who's a hell of a player. Deontay Johnson is a hell of a player for them he had some real bursts he was looking straight down
Starting point is 01:11:49 the field still and ben was in the back throwing it and the ball was already out of his hands and then as soon as deontay cut he like had to lay out for it the ball was there it was like that type of shit is so much work behind the scenes like people have have, that is so much, so much work. So much trust between the quarterback and the receiver. That's the number one thing right there. And that's what Peyton lived off of. That's why those off-season reps and everything were so, him and Austin Cawley, I mean, that was such a quick turnaround
Starting point is 01:12:17 and everybody was like, oh, Austin and Peyton have great chemistry here early. It was like, well, also Austin ran probably 700 routes a day to get all those things you know austin was living in the ice tub because he was running so many routes to get on the same page because that's all reps and everything like that i think joe burrow could be that type of quarterback couldn't get it out quicker now granted you can still use him for the the extending play weapon that he is you know like that was something that was a big part of his game but i feel like him herbert these guys who have been incredibly intelligent quarterbacks while being young and that he is, you know? Like, that was something that was a big part of his game. But I feel like him, Herbert,
Starting point is 01:12:47 these guys who have been incredibly intelligent quarterbacks while being young and being able to figure things out, I feel like he could get to that somehow. It's just whether or not you have the pieces for it and everything like that, I guess. They kind of do, though. You could block with seven, and you've got to assume that A.J. Green, Tyler Boyd, or T. Higgins, at least one of them is going to get open.
Starting point is 01:13:02 Somebody will be able to get open. Yeah. I don't know. Are we the coaches of the Bengals now? I think so. People are wondering at this, Bert. That sounds pretty simple, sitting here in our chairs, talking
Starting point is 01:13:13 to the microphones, like how to scheme up a defense. Hey, we are available for consulting, by the way. Absolutely. Everybody's doing shit by Zoom anyways. I heard the Raiders were doing practice via laptops with people yelling. Were you surprised at I heard the Raiders were doing practice via laptops with people yelling. Were you surprised at how good that Raiders defense played with the incredible lack of practice?
Starting point is 01:13:30 I mean, I think the way John Gruden described it last night, Michelle Tafoya said that Tiger Woods is coming to town, and Tiger Woods got to practice all week, and we haven't been able to do so. Basically talking about his Raiders defense with the COVID not being out. The Raiders are a good team. That's what I took away from last night like a legit real good team who are potentially going to win a game in the playoffs I think and maybe do so like they are a really good team but ultimately Patrick gets the win I mean yeah I understand what you're saying their defense definitely played well I mean that's a big lapse at the end that that wide
Starting point is 01:14:04 open touchdown to Kelsey I know that's kind of been dissected on the internet um that play plenty of times already but yeah i don't know like i don't think it has as as big of a as an impact as people think like if you can't like say a defense the majority of our defense can't practice together all week yeah you don't want to string that together multiple weeks but if it's for one week i don't think it has a it's a huge deal like people think it is uh i love that out of you by the way that's for you that's former player telling you that's former player telling you i always thought this practice was bullshit i always thought it i always thought it because there's a lot of those guys too it's like man come on like what even in practice you need to practice you
Starting point is 01:14:44 absolutely need to practice you need to practice you absolutely need to practice you need to have walkthroughs like those i knew i know mentally for myself like i needed those walkthroughs because every rep like every call that we would have in your mind in on paper i'm putting it to every single formation every look that i could get from that offense and then i can take it into a walkthrough i'm like okay this is what it actually looks like doing it and then i'm later that day i'm going to take that to practice and i'll see it live with pads on so practice is gigantic but this far into the season and everything you should know your scheme you should be pretty good with where you are how hilarious did you guys go full pads late into
Starting point is 01:15:17 the year in practice yeah until we full pads we get a super bowl what that's such a different mentality now i would assume that there's no there's one team maybe going full pads right now and we're in week 11 week 12 at this point back in the day that wasn't even a question and it was always the same reaction it was fantastic in the locker room now this sounds like such an asshole comment coming from somebody who has nothing like it doesn't matter if we're going full pads or not for me so i can understand that but the reaction was always legendary i mean every single full pads today with a full like throw the pads down onto the ground putting the practice jersey on top of it putting it on somebody coming over and hitting yeah like fake full enthusiasm i mean it was always when it got past like probably week seven week eight maybe even in some years it was always a
Starting point is 01:16:13 scene man it was and now i don't think they do it at all but boy it was awesome aren't don't you think one of uh one of the funny things when you think back is how quickly word travels and it's also fake rumors like hey man i'm talking my buddies on the jags they haven't worn pads yet this year and they're like yeah that's why they're owing 11 bud there is a lot of that then i think um we had a conditioning we didn't have a conditioning test for a long time okay the first crew didn't have a conditioning test it was just like expecting everybody like hey hey, we're expecting you to be here. And if you're not in shape, it's going to show. So, like, we're not even going to do it.
Starting point is 01:16:49 Which, by the way, I respect that a lot. Okay. I'm a big fan of that as somebody, you know, who I think most of the time, I mean, after the lockout, I was not in good shape. But most of the time, I showed up in great shape, ready to go, because I didn't want to suck or whatever. But the one year we had a conditioning test, it wasn't bad. I think it was like, I don't know, maybe 200s or something, but it was what are you, 50 back? The worst
Starting point is 01:17:12 ones, 250s, 150, whatever the hell it is. You get it. You know what I'm talking about? About 300s? Yeah, there it is. Those ones. The 300s, yeah, six of them. Yeah, yeah, that's what it was. Those suck. Those aren't fun. Yeah, maybe it was half of that. Maybe it might have been one or whatever it was. You get it.
Starting point is 01:17:26 We get done with it. One person failed. They made him run it every single morning. It was tough for that guy. He was a draft pick too, so they couldn't just cut him. They had to have him pass at some point, but they couldn't just pass him because they made such a big stink about it. If you don't pass, you can't practice.
Starting point is 01:17:40 But it was one of their drafted guys, so they had to kind of sit on that. You've got to pass it. We would like to just you know put you in it would be a lot better for all of us if you were just in the practice learning things but we can't have your practice because they had to sit on it or whatever immediately after that we got i got like two people like the giants like full everybody was like the giants i guess the washington football team i guess their conditioning test was very, very difficult from what I heard. And, like, kickers and punters had to do it. That's the same thing, those stories that travel through there. Like, they're not using pads today, down in blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 01:18:14 Real. They're not having for two weeks. Real. We're on every fucking week. What's this all about? And then some of the coaches even, you know, some of the coaches try to play, like, on the player's side. They're like, I said we should be resting.
Starting point is 01:18:26 I said we should be resting. It's like, God damn. How about you bring it up in the staff meeting, Coach? Yeah, yeah. Are you really going to bat for us when it matters, dude, or is it just right now? Man, I couldn't imagine being a linebacker. Which, by the way, back to the Vrabel point, okay?
Starting point is 01:18:43 That was back when three days were happening and showed or full padded practice every day. Vrabel did actual hand to hand combat with other humans wearing full pads every single day, basically for like six and a half years. Cause it's half the year, right? He's played 13 years.
Starting point is 01:19:00 So for six and a half years straight, six months, normally what the season is, he just fought other grown-ass men just every day of his life so i think you're in trouble there like i just think you're in trouble those practices with the full pads your mindset now granted i'm laughing at it because the legendary reaction that had to suck that just had to suck for you back in the day i mean it started uh back in second grade when you're like okay are we wearing the thing is? The thing is, until you get into high school, every practice I ever had was in pads.
Starting point is 01:19:28 And in high school, you pretty much wear pads every day except for the day before the game. We would just wear our shoulder pads. That was our off day. Thursday before the game, wear shoulder pads and just bang a little bit. Oh, man. You know what Braves would like to do? I wouldn't be shocked. You might have to make another side-by-side or add somebody.
Starting point is 01:19:44 Don't you think Vrabel would love it if you put the Hardball brothers up there? He's like, hey, two-one-one. Hey, I'll do one, then we'll do the other. Would it make sense to do a tag team of Vrabel and Judge versus Colombo and Hardball? No, see, that's what I'm talking about, though. Like, when people, like Rappaport probably would have said, Joe Judge can hold his own against Colombo. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:20:05 That's what I'm talking about, where it's like, no, he couldn't. Not because he's 6'4", 8'3", 30, but because he was an offensive lineman and he did hand-to-hand combat every single day. That's just, you're going to be naturally better at fighting people when you do combat every single day. And also potentially can just eat punches because you had to do it for a long time. Like Harbaugh might get some shots on Vrabel I think he just eats them AJ I think he just eats it and laughs potentially I mean you never know maybe we will see it play out one day you think uh the
Starting point is 01:20:36 Cowboys are all the way back huh NFC he's gonna go on a run obviously the Rockets back in looking great you beat COVID beat a nasty concussion. The Rocket is on fire. I think he's going to go on a run. Whoa. Hey, they can. They might. At NFC East. Zeke had over 100 yards rushing, and the Cowboys are back, man.
Starting point is 01:20:56 Hey, can I read to you their opponents for the rest of the season? You got some time here. Yeah. I got plenty of time. Yeah, we're waiting. Here we go. Washington, then Ravens, Bengals, Niners, Eagles, Giants. That's the remaining schedule for the Dallas Cowboys.
Starting point is 01:21:10 You're saying they're about to take control of that NFC East, and once you get into the dance and you have a home playoff game, anything can happen? That's what you're saying? I'm saying the rest of the season is set up nice for the Dallas Cowboys to make a run. Isn't it crazy to think, though, that that Dallas Cowboys team, whenever we're like week 15, week 16, it's like,
Starting point is 01:21:28 now who's going to be playing the Cowboys? You know, like in the NFC East, they want it. They have a... If this happens, by the way, this is a big if. The Giants could get hot. They got a new offensive line coach. Don't know if you heard about it. They made a pretty big move. They also have a shitty schedule as well.
Starting point is 01:21:43 Oh, yeah. Giants close out the season with the Bengals, so that would be okay. Then you've got the Seahawks in Seattle, Cardinals coming to Jersey, the Browns, and then closing it off with the Ravens. So they're screwed. Yeah, so they're screwed. So your Dallas Cowboys, week 15, week 16, week 17, who are they hosting for a playoff game? Just a couple weeks ago, the whole place was burning.
Starting point is 01:22:03 Don, Mike McCarthy had no idea how to coach, should have stayed retired. Their players are saying, how can we give effort for the entire game? These coaches can't coach. Now they really, because they steal a win against the Vikings. By the way, steal a win. Nobody would have thought they would, especially with our guy Thielen balling the way he was balling and Kirk balling.
Starting point is 01:22:23 Nobody thought the Cowboys would. They steal a win there, and now it's like, like yeah that team's having a home playoff game whether you like it or not people will be uh yeah they'll feel one way or the other either they're Dallas fans or they're not but I wanted to know how do you how'd you feel watching that Packers Colts game oh yeah it was interesting it's very interesting man wasn't it I was texting you a little bit during it I mean it was an interesting game. I mean, they had some dudes defensively for the Colts that stepped up huge. Hey, who'd you say? Julian Blackman, number 32.
Starting point is 01:22:51 He's a rookie, by the way. The Colts are pushing for him to be defensive rookie of the year conversation. The play he made in overtime, and I think you texted it to me, splits two people, punches ball out, game changer, game changer game ender game winner what a play by that guy yeah obviously the offense had to go and i know you had him on the show earlier he had old buddy had to make a kick old rex specs uh rodrigo right yeah yeah yeah yeah respect rodrigo had to make a great kick which he did um but yeah that play i had to text i was like jeez like these guys are so good and then i learned i'm I'm like, that's Blackman, the rookie?
Starting point is 01:23:25 Are you serious? You shouldn't make a play like that in that moment. I mean, that's just a gigantic play. It's so difficult to do. If he splits the blockers, that's his main job. Hey, split the blockers, send it back inside. Oh, no, I'm going to split the blockers after I got on my horse, as they used to say when I was a kid.
Starting point is 01:23:41 When you're trying to chase a fly ball, get on your horse. He gets out there, splits the defenders, gets his hand in there, calls the fumble. Oh, we recover. We end up winning the game. Like what a gigantic play, not only for him, but for the Colts organization, I feel like. That was a big win. I mean, I think this team around Indy, everybody knows they're good. They're winning games, but everybody was wondering what type of team it is. The defense, obviously very highly ranked and rated by all parties talking about the defense. Darius Leonard stud, Walker stud, DeForest Buckner has been very much worth everything that Chris Ballard traded and paid the guy. I mean, it is that defense. What would they be able
Starting point is 01:24:15 to do against Aaron? And in the first half, Aaron was moving. Aaron was doing whatever he wanted. Aaron was able to make whatever play he wanted to make. Then in the second half, old Eberflus makes a change or two. And that defense was a whole day. They were humming. Then the offense started moving. It was a great game, I think, watching. If I had zero horse in the race, which I happen to have two, by the way, which is very interesting, the team that grossly overpaid me, and then obviously best friend Aaron Rodgers Tuesday on the other side playing quarterback, which by the way, you know, I realized last night is you're very much just playing for your quarterback with the way it's covered.
Starting point is 01:24:50 Like the way the games are covered, yeah, LaFleur's the coach or whatever, but everybody out there, if they drop a ball or something like that, they feel as if they let down Aaron, I think. You know what I mean? Like you're playing for your quarterback. So whenever I was in, by the way, I think that's very true whenever you start thinking of that. If you don't play defense, by the way, defense play for the team, but everybody else, like you're playing for your quarterback. By the way, I think that's very true whenever you start thinking of that. If you don't play defense, by the way, defense is playing for the team, but everybody else
Starting point is 01:25:07 is like, you're playing for your quarterback. He's the leader. He's everything like that. He touches the ball every single time you want to win him over, but you get it. Watching him and his squad take on a team that grossly overpaid me and has been very nice to me for a long time, it was a little tough. I was just
Starting point is 01:25:24 hoping for a good game. Guess what a little tough. I was just hoping for a good game. Guess what? Good game. Healthy game. Phillip Rivers had something happen on his leg on a block, I guess. We'll see what happens there. But it was an incredible game. And I think a lot of people are telling the same old story.
Starting point is 01:25:43 Seems like the Packers team might end up running into a problem in the playoffs. And that's all anybody took away from that game. Still a two-game lead in the NFC North. And that's all anybody took away from that game. Still a two-game lead in the NFC North, but that's all anybody took away from it. If you listen to Packers fans talk this morning. Yeah, I don't know. I guess it would make you worry a little bit about the Packers, especially their defense. Will they be able to come up with those plays like the Colts were able to?
Starting point is 01:26:00 They had a big fourth-and-one stop late in the game, too. The Colts' defense. He tried to float over top. They were coming. They were getting after him. It's a tough throw, I bet. I bet that's a tough throw. Yeah, when you've got multiple guys bearing down on you, you've got to somehow lob it up
Starting point is 01:26:17 there. The back probably wasn't even looking yet, and you've got to find a way to find the right spot to put it in. Now, by the way, he makes a lot of hard throws, and he's an nfl quarterback and he should be judged as an nfl quarterback but i feel like that throw after watching it because you see it it's a miss or whatever and then they show the replay the amount that'd be tough to do i think it'd be very tough to do it's like payton and ben that you were talking about they throw it so early and you just hope that the timing lines up like it's almost impossible yeah it's wild it's crazy but the packers tie tie welcome back by the way thank you is everything all right
Starting point is 01:26:49 down there well i'll tell you what i'm struggling right now what happened seems lost the scrambler this morning backfired on me big time but i got the worst case of bubble guts right now wow everything okay just took a pill mean, when you go in there and you're expecting to just butt piss for a little bit and it's just like a massive fart,
Starting point is 01:27:09 it's kind of a huge letdown. All right. All right. Happy, you're okay? Yeah, I'm doing all right. Sports and human anatomy. Shit states. Die.
Starting point is 01:27:21 I'd kill for some shit states. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We get it. Sports show. Tease and p's by the way thank you send up a prayer it's going to be a little bit though make it quick it is a big one minor all right one problem let's get to it with him but we talked about how the packers fans this morning after watching that game yesterday yeah i think you agree colts team good team defense great team that offense was able to figure it out but as a packers fan it's like what does this mean for the future going down the road yeah I'm just I'm just tired of
Starting point is 01:27:48 seeing them lose games like they were up you know 28 14 at half like that's just not with Rodgers especially like that's just not a game they should lose and I mean the defense obviously that makes you worry about when they play a really good team in the playoffs if they can actually hold on and beat anybody I don't know I mean like you said they're they're gonna win the division still they should still make a deep playoff run but it's just a it's a very very frustrating loss um you want to get to a phone or two a phone call or two aj yeah let's do it you want to go to rochester new york that sounds great you know i played against the team whenever I was a kid called Rochester Rhinos. They always had great uniforms.
Starting point is 01:28:28 They had, like, the full Nike. They had, like, the full outfit, you know. Gritty team? I don't know. They had very nice outfits. I just remember the uniform being very nice. And their suits, you know, because you have them in full. Yeah, they looked.
Starting point is 01:28:43 I remember Rochester Rhinos being a problem. Dan in Rochester, what's going on? Hey, guys. First of all, shout out to my guy Ty there. I've got Crohn's disease, so I understand what you're going through. Not far. Is that colitis? Similar. Same umbrella.
Starting point is 01:28:57 Pretty similar. Got it. Rough. Yeah. Sorry about that. Listen, I got a hot take for you here. Super Bowl. It's going to be my team, the Dallas Cowboys,
Starting point is 01:29:08 versus the Buffalo Bills. All right. How are we doing? I hope not. Okay, so I like Dan. Dan seems to be a great picture of the next segment we're going to have. It feels like Dan overreacted a little bit to the Cowboys getting a win. Earlier today I put out on Twitter, hey, we want to hear from you.
Starting point is 01:29:27 What are some things that your thoughts are after this NFL Sunday, week 11? Hashtag Pat, I don't want to overreact, but, and we got some good ones from NFL fans across the country. Pat, I don't want to overreact, but. Nailed it. I don't know who recorded that, but that sounded really, really great. That was good. We got within, I think, five minutes or ten minutes or something like that.
Starting point is 01:29:50 We were trending, so we appreciate everybody for participating in a segment on our show that does have an open. Let's get to some Foxy, shall we? This one's from ToneKnee17. Hashtag Pat, I don't want to overreact, but if Claypool had the same stats on any other team he'd be in the discussion of offensive rookie of the year you can take the t out but since these stealers are 10 and 0 everyone wants to hate very interesting here because i would think that a guy
Starting point is 01:30:18 on an undefeated team that is doing things that no rookie really has ever done and is leading in a lot of statistical categories would also have a lot more yards if it wasn't for a couple pass interference calls on him chase claypool is my offensive rookie of the year thus far even though herbert has been unbelievable at football okay herbert's been very very very very good he's going to be unbelievable they get a win he cuts his hair i get it joey burrow unbelievable i get this dude's on an undefeated team and he's catching touchdowns in damn near every single game for said undefeated team he's making big plays and he's not even in the discussion and maybe that's why i like him so much because he's not in the discussion i think he deserves it but he should be in a conversation
Starting point is 01:30:58 what do you think aj what but what discussion are you paying attention to like i feel like any discussion i've seen how could you not have Claypool in the discussion as offensive rookie? He wasn't even in top 10. ESPN did rankings of rookies. That's what we're saying. That's what that tweet was, too. I think you listen to our show, and I think Ian Rappaport doesn't listen to our show.
Starting point is 01:31:20 I guess there isn't a lot of Steelers discussion anywhere, and I guess we're the only place that really does it because we've got a lot of really cool guests from Pittsburgh on the show. And also we have diehard Pittsburgh fans in the studio. They're winning, winning, winning. And there's not a lot of talk about it. Ben, comeback player of the year. It's going to be tough, obviously, with Alex Smith.
Starting point is 01:31:39 But how about in the MVP conversation? He's not even in it, I don't think. Chase Claypool's not in an offensiveensive Rookie of the Year conversation. I don't think there's any conversations happening about any of them. So I would feel like if a rookie is making that big of an impact on an undefeated team, it should help him. It shouldn't hurt him when it comes to postseason awards. So that doesn't make any sense.
Starting point is 01:31:59 It does sound like people are sleeping on Claypool a little bit. But if he continues the pace that he has now, he absolutely better be in that discussion within a week or two. I agree. Let's get to the next one. By the way, remember – all right, Ty. Good luck. Get that pulling out, Ty.
Starting point is 01:32:16 Get those wet wipes. Bloop, bloop, bloop, bloop. I feel bad for him, though, man. I feel really bad. He really battles. I don't know what that is. He's got something. He does battle the toilet.
Starting point is 01:32:24 He does go to war with the John. I mean, the wet wipes had to be brought in. Those are the heavy hitters. Are you going to the bullpen? No. By the way, you should do them every time. I would recommend highly 10 times out of 10. Tony Romo went shit on the Mapletron thing.
Starting point is 01:32:41 Yeah. You know what I mean? Mm-hmm. Tony and Jim, I think, had their best game yesterday. Really? Yeah. Are they back? I think so.
Starting point is 01:32:47 I think so. Thank God. There's some that's still real bad. They just needed a week off from each other. Yeah, they had a good game. Wait, what game was Tony on? It was Ravens. Baltimore, yeah.
Starting point is 01:32:56 It was the Baltimore one. Oh, okay. Yeah. I don't know. I haven't really paid attention to Tony's – to him doing games. I know you said, oh, some people are pumping the brakes a little bit on him. I don't know. I haven't seen – I watch a lot of Red Sox.
Starting point is 01:33:12 Did you not watch the game you bet on, AJ? Why don't you – yeah, you called that game. You said Titans straight up, plus 125. Yeah, I saw – if you saw how I watch games, you – yeah. In and out, walking through a room, then this way, that way, then watch the prognosticator. Because you've got a lot of kids, so you don't even know what you're talking about. That's why you – We've got basketball.
Starting point is 01:33:34 We've got everything happening still. Basketball. Dad of the year, dude. Hey, I don't care if you don't watch any of the games or just catch up afterwards. As long as you keep getting all your bets right, we need it over here. You do watch that. I watch Red Zone. Red Zone, first off,
Starting point is 01:33:48 you have to watch Red Zone if you want to figure out, like, if you want to be able to watch a million games at a time and you don't have a billion dollars like you, you have 37 screens, Pat. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Seven. It's tough, too, by the way. I get caught and captivated. I lose some things. Oh, my God, what's going on up here? Ah, no DVR. Can't go
Starting point is 01:34:03 back. Fuck me. Still? Yeah, no DVR, can't go back. Fuck me. Yeah, no DVR. Sunday Ticket now also lets you put on four games at once so you don't just have to put on Red Zone. You know, you can put on
Starting point is 01:34:10 the four main games, AJ, to your point. And how do they do the audio? Four different screens. Well, you got to put it on the big screen that's connected. You got to put it
Starting point is 01:34:17 on the projector. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, you guys got fucking projectors? Duh. Yeah, Z got one. Yeah, I do. What's the next overreaction, Fosse?
Starting point is 01:34:26 Goodbye, Patricia. This is from Xander Stuyvesant. Hashtag Pat, I don't want to overreact, but Matt Patricia may be the worst head coach in the entire league after putting up a goose egg against a first-year head coach, first-year offense coordinator, and might we add, Xander, a first start in the NFL for P.J. Walker. I mean, that was a tough day yesterday for the Detroit Lions.
Starting point is 01:34:48 I mean, did you watch the game at all on your red zone? What are your initial thoughts? Foxy is completely done with them, and I think he does represent a majority of the Detroit Lions fans. Yeah, not a great outing for the Lions. Zero points, especially with Matt Stafford as your quarterback. Unacceptable, I would say. That's what's really difficult.
Starting point is 01:35:09 Against the Carolina Panthers, which I didn't think the Panthers would win, especially this easy. Hey, John. But still, to jump. So, Foxy's off the bandwagon, right? He's done. Dead. Way off.
Starting point is 01:35:20 It's Thanksgiving. The Thanksgiving game, he doesn't even want to watch. He'll be forced to. Let's go for the Steelers. What if we rewind this six days, though, and you're juiced and saying how awesome their schedules line up, we're going to make a run, this is it. Like, how do you jump week to week?
Starting point is 01:35:33 How do you have such highs and lows? Because I'm a Lions fan, AJ. I actually woke up yesterday morning and I said, we win today, we win Thursday. Within five days, we have a winning record and we're going to make the playoffs. And then, lo and behold, they just literally shit the bed.
Starting point is 01:35:48 Yeah, I was back. They stink. They stink. I got a stat for you too about what the Lions did with our previous head coach since 1957. We've had 16 head coaches. Guess who has the best winning percentage out of all those coaches under the Lions
Starting point is 01:36:04 organization? Well, he just told us. He said previous coach. So Jim called on them and fired him for Patricia. Yeah, so what you're saying is sell the goddamn team because it's the owner's fault, not the coach. It's the decisions up there in the front office, Fox. This is one of those things where I didn't want to name names whenever I went after commentators last week
Starting point is 01:36:23 because I finally had had enough of it with how how bad somewhere because it's not always the commentators felt like the people putting them in the positions they they're the people who like you knew that this wasn't you knew you put them in right so I I was trying to attack them more so than the commentators themselves because if you end up in a spot you you've got to do however you've got to do. For instance, I've been put in some spots I'm not supposed to be in, and a lot of people get mad. It's like, I didn't, hey, sorry. It's not supposed to be me or whatever.
Starting point is 01:36:53 So whenever you think about the Lions, I mean, were they trying to lose? They finally get a coach that wins, and they're like, not good enough. Get the hell out of here. Are you trying to lose up there? And if that's the case, if you keep the team within the same family, is it going to be a tradition of trying to lose? And if that's the case, hey, San Antonio wants a football game. Give it to Benzo.
Starting point is 01:37:15 Give it to Benzo. Stamford's a Texas guy. Bro, how about Portland? Would you imagine? Yes. Dude, those Pacific Northwest places, those fan bases go insane. Do the right thing. Protect the shield, dude.
Starting point is 01:37:31 Sell the team. Keep them in Detroit. You can sell the team all you want. It is the ownership's fault. Everyone knows it. Oh, shit. Everyone knows it. There it is.
Starting point is 01:37:40 But you got to keep them in Detroit. So, Foxy just turned on the Ford family. Foxy, if it's the ownership's fault, are you saying they should retain Matt and Patricia at the end of the season? He's got to go. Wow. You said it was the ownership. Yeah, he's got to go.
Starting point is 01:37:55 They are the ones that hired him. They fired Caldwell for him. Yeah, Jim Caldwell has just been chilling too, right? I think you guys probably have to pay him for that. Hire him back, baby. We need him back. Oh, you think he wants to come back? He ain't coming back.
Starting point is 01:38:05 You think he wants to? Now, granted, Jim coming back. You think he wants to come back? Now, granted, Jim Caldwell was a much nicer man than I. I got a chance to play for him. He was awesome. I'm a big Jim Caldwell fan. I thought the way the Lions fans judged him for being the same all the time is also the same reason why you would celebrate him if it's a big win and he's kind of chill.
Starting point is 01:38:22 So I thought he got it. But there's no way. Now, he's never told me this. He and don't talk much believe it or not but he um there's no way he's like let me go back to detroit there's no way he would want to do that you know there's no way and i don't know who they should hire because they're definitely going to fire patricia at this point but i have no clue who's next yeah what's another overreaction stafford's out of town too so that's another huh uh-oh. This is from Nathan Stone, at Big Dog Saints fan.
Starting point is 01:38:49 What up, Big Dog Nate Stone? Hashtag Pat, I don't want to overreact, but is Taysom Hill going to take the Saints to the promised land? Also, is he better than Lamar Jackson? I referred to this tweet earlier. Hilarious. Lamar Jackson won the MVP as the most valuable player just a year ago. Now, because the Ravens have had their struggles,
Starting point is 01:39:07 even though they still have a winning record, things seem to be lost on the offensive side of the ball in Baltimore. People are wondering if Taysom Hill, who had his first ever start yesterday, is better than him. I love the internet. I love the society we have created. What have you done for me lately? If it is nothing, and I'm talking about just yesterday, I will ruin every single thing you've ever fucking done. I like our society being like that. High accountability. Taysom Hill was a much better quarterback than a lot of people
Starting point is 01:39:34 thought he was going to be yesterday. First half wasn't great. Get a half a football under your belt. He's like a rookie basically at that position, even though he's done gadget plays in the past. Second half, he and Sean Payton went went to work he's explosive whenever he's on the ground he can make the throws it seemed like he was getting through his progressions and I think his team likes him and he has a defense down there that is unbelievable that Saints team with Taysom Hill is going to be just as good as they were with Drew Brees I fear and that sucks for everybody in the NFC. Now Sean Payton is 6-1-0 with other quarterbacks other than Drew Brees in the last two years. Incredible work down there.
Starting point is 01:40:11 I mean, I'm a fan of Taysom, absolutely. Me too. And if you're going to face the Saints and you're a defense, you're thinking, all right, let's say three or four weeks from now they're going to have to make a decision. Like if Taysom continues and they keep winning, are they going to make a decision? If you're facing them, you're like, all right, this is a different offense if Taysom continues and they keep winning are they going to make a decision if you're facing them you're like all right this is a different
Starting point is 01:40:26 offense with Taysom Hill compared to Drew Brees he may run some of the similar things but you have so much more to worry about with Taysom Hill in there I'm curious to see what happens if he can continue to get better and better over these next like three weeks first half I saw I was watching and I didn't want to publicly what's that that? Everyone wanted Jameis in, didn't they? Yeah, yeah, the internet wanted Jameis, but I was watching, and I didn't want to tweet it or anything like that because I wanted to see a full game because I thought there was a chance that maybe looking through a progression in a coverage
Starting point is 01:40:57 could be a little bit more confusing than it was at, what, BYU or whatever. So I thought there was a chance that he could look rough early, and he did. I saw a lot of my former teammates that were good athletes that could throw. It felt like I was watching them play quarterback. You know what I mean? They can make every single throw, but maybe being a quarterback where you have to know what everybody's doing
Starting point is 01:41:16 and you have to be able to read and guess what a coverage is before anybody else in that whole thing and being commanding in the huddle and everything like that, I thought there was a chance that, you know, it's not an easy thing to do at an NFL level, okay? That's not easy at all for anybody, even if you're a great athlete.
Starting point is 01:41:32 But in the second half, watching him kind of go through a couple progressions, and then throw the ball on the money. Now, he was short on a couple balls, deep balls, which I assume they'll keep flexing to showcase that he has a better arm than those two that potentially got out a little bit early from his grip, it looked like. He looked like a real quarterback there at times. Even dropping back in the pocket, he was
Starting point is 01:41:52 running backwards at one time. He looked like a real NFL quarterback in the second half, and if you're a Saints fan, you got to be pumped about that. I mean, he's quick, too. Those legs are massive, and he's very quick. That run around the edge there was awesome to watch. Don't you feel like if he's able to become the next franchise quarterback for the New Orleans Saints, there's never really been a quarterback like Taysom Hill. If he's your full-time starter, we have plenty of guys that are dual threat that can run.
Starting point is 01:42:19 We know Lamar, how dynamic he is. But Taysom Hill is a guy, I don't know if he can last but how he runs like he runs like a bruising running back almost so we don't have it we've never really seen a guy let me know if i'm missing somebody luck getting who well i think andrew luck was like this he was not nearly the threat to run that tasem hill is agreed completely agree but that was kind of what andrew was like whenever he ran you know he was like a like a lumbering – oh, what are you talking about? Lorenzen right there. Oh, you're talking about the hefty lefty.
Starting point is 01:42:48 Yeah, I mean, that guy was running through. Our guy, Jared Lorenzen. Rest in peace, pal. He was awesome, man. That's a legend gone too soon right there. But, yeah, if he got rumbling, I mean, people would look at him. Right through him. Look at him.
Starting point is 01:43:03 Do we have another overreaction, Foxy? Last one here. This is from Tom's Petty at Thought81788094. This guy does a lot on Twitter apparently. Just took any fucking name they gave him. Hashtag Pat. I don't want to overreact, but Tua saying the NFL is easier than he thought last week
Starting point is 01:43:19 and then getting benched this week is something you cannot recover from. Hilarious Tom's Petty. Not a bad thought there. That was interesting whenever Tua said it's a lot easier than he thought it was going to be. He's not saying it's difficult, but they were on a little bit of a winning streak yesterday. Had a bad day. They bring in Fitz Magic.
Starting point is 01:43:37 Conversation immediately begins. Is Tua not the future? Who's starting next week? They don't come back after a 99-yard drive that Fitz Magic almost put together, which if that goes into overtime and then Fitz ends up winning, what do you do? What's the conversation today? Since he gets picked and the end zone doesn't happen or whatever, now it's Tua's back next week.
Starting point is 01:43:53 That was an interesting decision, I think. I wonder if B-Flow always had that in his mind, even the last two games where Tua's played great. If he starts to stumble at all, we're out. What's up? Pretty big breaking news. What is it? Well, not pretty big, but the Ravens, two starting running backs,
Starting point is 01:44:08 are out for Thursday night because of COVID. J.K. Dobbins and Mark Ingram. J.K. Dobbins was not happy early in the game yesterday that he was on rotation getting the ball. Mark Ingram and J.K. Dobbins, two players to test positive out of Baltimore per Mike Garofalo. They are out for Thursday night versus Pittsburgh. Yikes.
Starting point is 01:44:27 So now a Baltimore Ravens offense that hasn't been able to really get going as much as they did last year are out two very good players. J.K. Dobbins started coming into his own this week, catching the ball in the backfield, running, finding holes, wanted more playing time, was not happy about it, felt like he was in a groove. Now he's out for a massive game in the AFC North on Thursday night alongside Mark Ingram. I wonder who got it who and how did it happen and who else? Is there going to be contact tracing then too, right, if he's running backs?
Starting point is 01:44:54 Oh, yeah. Absolutely. Oh, no. Dude, are they fading now? Are the Ravens one of those teams who are in the middle of a pack who are saying, fuck all these protocols. I'm done with it. I'm going out.
Starting point is 01:45:04 I don't know. Did they go to Jimmy's Seafood, Don? Are they forgetting? They lost to the Titans. They're like, you know what I need? I need the most delicious crab cakes that the world has. I'm going to stop down at Jimmy's Seafood. Now, Jimmy's is in an interesting location.
Starting point is 01:45:20 I think whenever we went there, the place is awesome. Their food is incredible. They ship to us and all that shit. Maybe the boys went down to Jimmy's, and Jimmy's famous seafood will get you. You can't be down there, boys. It's tempting, though, that food. Can't blame them. It is good.
Starting point is 01:45:33 It is good. You just can't do it, boys. Now the contact tracing, who else is going to be out? Wow. Steelers are looking at this thankful that this isn't happening to them right now for sure. Yeah, and i would be worried like you said about the contact tracing i talked to one of my old coaches that i know and he he's coaching in the league and he's like i had to sit in a hotel in self-isolation for five days
Starting point is 01:45:55 because they felt like i was like some kind of contact tracing twice removed they made me sit down for five days and he said he's tested negative for three weeks ever and he never tested positive. But, yeah, things like that happen. So I would be worried if I was Ravens. Like, who else is this going to impact? Oh, no. Thursday night matchup, Steelers-Ravens.
Starting point is 01:46:12 It's going to be awesome. Everybody's a little frustrated. You know what I mean? Who's going to do what here? Steelers potentially. Is their perfection going to be imperfected by the Baltimore Ravens on Thanksgiving Day? Now, who will the Ravens even have?
Starting point is 01:46:26 Also, with this COVID, the vid, as Kevin Hart called it, which I would recommend watching it, hope everybody survives. We hope J.K. Dobbins, Mark Ingram survive, obviously. T's and P's, we hope you survive, obviously. We hope nobody else gets sick or whatever. You know what I mean? The vid could get into the Steelers too at any time.
Starting point is 01:46:42 That's the thing about the vid. Nobody knows anything about it. Nobody knows. We just got to get to the games here. You know what I mean? It's just another lose-lose for Steelers too at any time. That's the thing about the vid. Nobody knows anything about it. Nobody knows. We just got to get to the games here. You know what I mean? It's just another lose-lose for Steelers. If they lose against the Ravens, oh, you lost against the Ravens with no one. If you beat them, you won against the Ravens against no one.
Starting point is 01:46:54 Fucking tired of it. Oh, lose-lose, huh? Yeah. Can't thank you enough for choosing to listen to this show. At the beginning, I told you, be a friend. Tell a friend if you enjoyed it. If you got this far, you had to have liked it a little bit, I think. I mean, unless you hate listening, and if you did, all due respect, my friend,
Starting point is 01:47:11 you are awesome. Okay? You deserve it. If you hate listening to this entire thing, more power to you. Very impressive. Just don't tell anybody about it. If you like the show, please be a friend, tell a friend. We'll be back tomorrow with Aaron Rodgers Tuesday. Tough loss in overtime yesterday for Aaron Rodgersgers what's he gonna say about it we will find out tomorrow uh we'll see you then ty schmidt who has been in the bathroom for this entire recording here he's currently battling something uh he at the moment he's currently uh winning two rounds losing one round in a three-round battle with whatever's going on in his guts right now. So let's hope he can close this out in the championship rounds,
Starting point is 01:47:48 four and five, but we're pulling for him. Ty, whenever you hear this, I want to let you know, everybody has tweeted you and said, hey, we hope you're doing good there. I know your war with the bathroom and war with the toilet that's going on right now is going to be a tough one. We're pulling for you, dude. Could you please play some independent music to propel these people into the greatest Monday of all time? Then back for tomorrow's
Starting point is 01:48:08 Aaron Rodgers Tuesday. Cheers. Thank you. សូវាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប� Thank you.

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