The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 324 - OVERREACTION MONDAY, Week 17 NFL Recap, Justin Tucker, Darius Butler, Field Yates, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: January 4, 2021

On today's show, Pat and the boys overreact to everything that happened during an eventful week 17 of the NFL season including the Eagles handing the NFC East to the Football Team, the Browns getting into the playoffs for the first time since 2002, the Bills beating the hell out of the Dolphins, the Packers locking up the 1 seed, and much more. Joining the show is Super Bowl Champion, 5x All-Pro, 4x Pro Bowler, member of the 2010's NFL All Decade team, and fresh off a game winning field goal a couple of weeks ago, Justin Tucker to chat about the Ravens getting hot at the right time, his mental approach to kicking, some of his favorite fields to kick on, if Texas will ever be good again, and much more (19:21-37:33). Next, 9 Year NFL veteran, co-host of The Man-To-Man Pod, Everything DB, friend of the program Darius Butler joins the show to chat about everything from week 17, his big takeaways, who he likes in the playoffs, and why he wouldn't hire Urban Meyer (54:31-1:13:16). Next, ESPN NFL Insider and friend of the show, Field Yates joins the program to chat about all the different coaching changes, GM openings, and what he's hearing about the futures of Carson Wentz and Matt Stafford (1:13:18-1:35:36). Later, Pat and AJ Hawk chat about the week 17 slate, who is looking good going into the playoffs, and how the Oculus has changed everything (1:58:54-2:14:09). Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow and listen every day on Mad Dog Radio, Sirius XM Channel 82. We appreciate you all for listening, come and laugh with us, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello! It is Overreaction Monday, January 4th, 2021. Yeah! Happy New Year! Happy New Year! The NFL got through an entire season. We overreact to all of it today. All of it. We can't thank you enough for choosing to listen to us. We understand that there's a lot of other things that can penetrate your ear holes. The fact you allow us to do so, we are incredibly thankful.

If you like this show, by the end of it, feel free to be a friend, tell a friend. If not, fuck off. Yeah, piss off. Just act like it never happened. Mm-hmm.

Just act like it never happened. Not that hard. Don't tell anybody? Nope. Like two ships passing in the night. Mm-hmm. We'll see you down the road, maybe. Maybe.

But if you like the show, go ahead and tell everybody about it. Yeah. Obviously, big show tomorrow, Aaron Rodgers Tuesday, plus other guests. Today's show, I think you're going to enjoy. Let's get to it. Happy New Year to you. I hope you had an incredible weekend.

I hope your thoughts with yourself on the time the ball dropped were positive. I hope you're going into 2021 with an incredibly positive attitude. Now it's going to be tough because I do believe that 2021 for the first couple of months might look a lot like 2020, but know that there's better roads ahead and let's kick the living shit out of the year 2021, which will go down as the greatest year in the history of years. Congrats. Congrats to 2021 on already being the greatest year in the history of years can't wait to experience you also can't wait to experience super wild card weekend coming up just

a few days from now three games of importance on the nfl on saturday three games of importance for the nfl on sunday all weekend long we're building towards the super bowl got some great guests today field yates will be joining us darius butler great guests today. Field Yates will be joining us. Darius Butler will be joining us. A.J. Hawk will be joining us. And hopefully some of your phone calls. 1-888-MADDOG6. We have overreactions from all over Twitter.

We have coaches being fired. GM's positions being filled. College coaches potentially getting hired. There's a lot of shit to pop off, and we can't wait to do it alongside you all damn day. Here on SiriusXM Channel 82 Mad Dog Spirits we're here for the first time in what seems to be maybe two months Tone Diggs is back. Big congrats to Tone Diggs on being a COVID survivor. Happy New Year and you are officially now a... An immunicorn. An immunicorn.

Wow. You can go kiss the men and the women. I can do whatever I want right now, Pat. I can do whatever I want right now. It has to feel like a little bit of a weight is off your chest, literally and figuratively because of what that is, but also because now you literally, you're immune to this thing. I'm immune to this thing. I can't infect anybody else.

I can do whatever I want, Pat. Good for you. Congrats on that. How it how was it was it flu like what was it like for those of us who've never had to experience it was flu like uh you just lay in bed you're like fuck like you're just tired all the time and you have flu like symptoms it was it was it was a tougher opponent than i thought it was going to be but you know one in the end 10 round fight for you um it didn't come out of the attic in the cellar for you. They're like some flus, right? None of that. No, no.

Just exhaustion. Exhaustion, sore throat, headache. Headache was the worst part, but yeah. Hey, sometimes you're going to get punched in the face. Sometimes. Sometimes you're going to get slapped in the mouth, whether it's the flu or COVID or anything else. Sorry, show just...

If I did that, but happy you're back, happy you're okay. Happy to be back. Pittsburgh Steelers allow the Cleveland Browns into the playoffs for the first time in 18 years. Congrats. The Cleveland Browns had to earn it. I'm not talking about all season. They obviously play great football, but this last game, obviously, the Steelers rested for their captains, their main players. Everybody else kind of got in there.

Mason Rudolph looked a lot better than he did last year, but not enough to beat the Cleveland Browns, who secure a playoff spot for the first time in a long time. There's a long list of quarterbacks on the back of those jerseys for the last couple decades for the Cleveland Browns to go play quarterback for the Dog Pound, and they all sucked. They all stink.

Same old Browns, same old Browns. Decade later, same old fucking Browns. The Dog Pound was passionate. The Dog Pound was loyal. The Dog Pound wasn't allowed to drink Bud Light for one particular season until they won a game. By the way, they're one of the only teams in the history to actually not win a game in a season. The Cleveland Browns have been

a cycle of shit for the last couple decades. And there's one man that came to town to save the day. Baker Mayfield. Now, they have a great run game, and Kevin Stefanski seems to have it figured out, but the Pittsburgh Steelers basically allow the Cleveland Browns in.

Now, I'm not saying the Browns didn't deserve it, but they allow them in. Now they play one week from now. As a diehard Pittsburgh Steelers fan, would be karma kicking you right in the dick if the Cleveland Browns were to win, but I was in this situation actually. We allowed the New York Jets in whenever we chose to lose Week 15. Then we went on to play the Jets later. And in the locker room, we knew all the conversation about the karma

that would happen if we were to lose to the team that we let in, basically. And we went out there and won the game. I would assume, as a Steelers fan, you guys were very comfortable and confident in what's going to happen this weekend. It's unique because the last time the Browns were in the playoffs, they lost to the Steelers. And the time that they were in the playoffs, they lost to the Steelers. And the time that they were in before that, they lost to the Steelers. And I thought yesterday went about –

That was going to be your mic drop. That was your mic drop. Yeah, and then you realized that. Yesterday went about as good as possible because I don't know if it puts a seed of doubt in the Browns' head not being able to win by just a two-point conversion versus the Steelers' team that wasn't trying. You've been in that situation before. Chief.

What? That is whenever you paint it that way, but it's the NFL. Any given Sunday, anybody can win. And the Browns didn't have, what, offensive line coaches or anything else like that. They had a lot of people out with COVID. I was trying to think what they do during the game, but there is different conversations that happen,

especially if you're a running team, which they are. Kareem Hunt, Chubb is a stud. Baker Mayfield seems to be playing well for the last seven, eight weeks or whatever. Jarvis, that could be a problem. If the Browns get their first playoff win in forever against the Pittsburgh Steelers, boy, I cannot wait for next Monday with diehard Steelers fans, Tone Diggs, Nick Morado and Evan Fox

congrats on making a playoffs your first year as a fan of the Steelers Foxy no I'm done with that team I don't like that team anymore the fans weren't good to me so I'm not going to be good to them who's your team for the playoffs I've been thinking about it and I think I'm going to let actually the fans of this show decide

and maybe open up a poll you must really think people give a And I think I'm going to let actually the fans of this show decide and maybe open up a poll and see who I'm going to root for. Wow, you must really think people give a fuck. That is very, very – I respect it. How do you? Good for you. I can't wait to see what the people think for you to cheer for. Detroit Lions might be hiring a guy that coached as an interim head coach

for the Dolphins and ran Oklahoma Drills first day of practice. Dan Campbell, who's the assistant head coach for the Saints currently, who only has that job because he was back with the Cowboys when Sean Payton was back with the Cowboys. They're good friends, but also won a couple games for the Dolphins as a head coach. I assume Chris Spielman and that Ford family will make

the right decision. I love it. They also got Salah potentially on deck. Who knows how that's going to go. A lot of coaches potentially getting fired today. Already Anthony Lindbreak, 41 on air, fired as the Chargers head coach, coming off a four-game win streak. Now, granted, the entire season for the Chargers was one that was ugly, a lot of bad situational football, but they got a guy in Justin Herbert.

That next selection of who comes in and coaches is going to be massive. This is basically framing a guy who potentially has a chance to be a Hall of Famer. That's very early to be saying that, but if you watch Herbert play, you watch the throws he makes, the way he seems to lead his team, and the way it goes, that next coach is going to have to be a quarterback developer,

which everybody's saying Buffalo Bills offensive coordinator Dabble who went to high school with Tom Telesco, who is the general manager of the Chargers. They've been friends since high school, and he's a good quarterback developer. You see what he did with Josh Allen. Let's assume that song bitch is going to Los Angeles after this Buffalo Bills playoff run,

which, by the way, congrats to the Buffalo Bills for putting an exclamation point on an incredible season by beating the fuck out of the Dolphins. Oh, jeez. Congratulations. Josh Allen looks unconscious right now. Looks like he's just having fun. That Dolphins defense is a good defense, by the way. And Josh Allen was just toying with them.

Gumpy, Dolphins don't make the playoffs. There was a chance that the Colts were going to collapse in the second half against Mike Glenn and the Skycam and the Jacksonville Jaguars, and the Dolphins were going to potentially get in there. Jonathan Taylor starts getting the ball again. He's a fucking problem, by the way. He's very good at football but the dolphins now out of the playoffs so much hope is two of your guy gumpy what's the future look like jane gailey's probably out the dolphins are in disarray whenever it seems like this is the first time that they've had a

chance to potentially have success in the near future it took until week 17 pat but it looks like we finally got exposed on the final day there you have to make a decision you have that number three pick if you're going to take somebody else do it but if you're going to keep tua get changeli the fuck oh wow oc from college who's going to be there on the field with tua and get him some weapons all right well that's a lot of conversation we can are you going to do with Fitzmagic, right? Fitzmagic's there. Maybe Changeli keeps the old guy around. Miami's out. Obviously they were the team that got out of the chairs. The, what's that game called?

Musical chairs. Musical chairs. Anybody ever play that in real life? Great school, yeah. Great school. Did we? Yeah. I mean, and then We played a 7-up game oh thumbs up heads down thumbs up that game was a hit

physical chairs had to end because you know you would pull the chair out when some kid went to sit down and then he'd fall and smack his head and the skull and by the way

the person that won the game is the bad guy there yeah exactly not the loser that fucking didn't see the chair get slid out from underneath him

grab it dude we're the bad guy the people that are thank you that's the purpose of the game right get a fucking chair We're the bad guy. The people that are Thank you. That's the purpose of the game, right? Get a fucking chair? I'm the bad guy. He's bleeding out on the floor for a reason. Yeah. I'm sitting down. Isn't that the whole purpose of the game?

It's called musical floor or musical chair. Because I'm in a goddamn chair right now. Anyways, Boston Connor, the AFC East, Buffalo Bills, number two seed in the AFC. How you doing? Keep it moving. That team looks very good right now. Yeah, very quickly the standard turn East Buffalo Bills number two seed in the AFC how you doing keep it moving that team looks very good right now yeah very quickly the standard turn to Buffalo and with Belichick

you know bringing in Adam Gase I assume we're bringing in Anthony Lynn for a little motivation maybe bring Bill O'Brien in to be an assistant GM and honestly you might as well get Tom Segura to play fullback you know at this point bring everybody in and let's just try and beat Bill all right so we

have to address what you just talked about i came in this morning okay we do our standard thing the toxicity twins of nick ty and then connor slides in there they're laughing at their phones then i over here i've watched this 2 000 times and i go what's that and nick goes uh you won't want to watch it it's not tom segura though and i go oh i've been keeping up i heard he had surgery or whatever and he's like have you seen the video yet i'm like no no i have not seen a video nick turns around shoves it in my face i watched tom segura's entire leg blow out while trying to dunk and then his left arm committed suicide treason almost behind his back and he slaughters his arm and his leg blows into shatters into pieces

boom one of the most grotesque injuries i've ever seen it was gruesome we're talking in a matter of a half a second his entire body seemed to break i'm big tom segura fan yeah okay so i'm forced to see this i don't want to see this video okay but i laugh very hard watching a human body do that i text tom segura i let him know like hey man happy you survived that yes basically is what i said and uh then we facetime him obviously i'm laughing in his face as he answers i feel like a terrible person okay i just seen it and i go man i hope everything's good he goes yeah everything's great man i spent the last 30 days in the hospital he had a glove on his head and he said what i think needs to be remembered about this entire story about him

and his body quitting whenever he went to try to jump in his fucking turncoat treasonous left arm that just went underneath his entire body he dunked on a nine foot rim right before that what he is the dunk champion burt kreischer did not dunk he did now that is going to be a casualty to this story as we move forward because the next jump was so terrible. That is going to be the topic of conversation, but it does have to be remembered. I feel like I'd be doing Tom a disservice here if I didn't say he did successfully attempt some athletic feet moments before,

maybe the worst athletic feet I've ever seen in my entire life. T's and P's on Tom's recovery. I thought he slipped. I didn't know he blew his knee out until this morning. Oh, yeah. Well, it could go, Tom. I thought he slipped. I didn't know he blew his knee out until this morning. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Well, it could have been both. Slip slash blow.

Yeah, the slip could lead to an eventual. The explosion. Yeah. For instance, Mike Evans, slip. Oh, jeez. That looked bad. That looked very bad. And by the way, that grass just came up like an entire thing.

That sod, I guess, just went there. That Buccaneers team, tease and peace to the fullback for the Patriots, Tom Segura. Yeah, bring him in. By the way, with with his rehab what he's probably going through right now he's gonna be a robotic man by the end of this thing or your spirit he's gonna be doing stand-up it's gonna be like imagine him going through the hole blowing somebody up come on if you haven't seen it yet listen i'm not somebody that enjoys watching people get hurt. That's not something I'm into. I feel sick. I feel uncomfortable.

When somebody gets hit in the shins, I feel it. I don't like watching those things. That video is hysterical, though, to see a human body do what it did there. Well worth a watch. And thank you for your sacrifice, Tom Segura's body, for all of our entertainment. I don't know if his brain knew the body was going to do that, but we appreciate his body sacrificing itself for entertainment purposes. Mike Evans, he probably tweaked some ligaments, right? I'd assume there's a little bit of a tweak, which means you stretch it,

which means it's probably bruised. Not sure he's going to play this week, to be honest. That looked pretty bad. And then him walking off with the stumble there. But that Buccaneers team, if you go back to halftime against Atlanta two weeks ago, all the way through here, they've been pretty dominant. They've been a very good football team. Are they getting incredibly hot at the right time,

which is all that matters in the playoffs? And do you have a quarterback that can lead you to it? Yes. They ran a screen play to Gronk yesterday, the same exact play they ran maybe six, seven weeks ago. Gronk looked like he was running in slow motion. Yesterday he got this screenplay And he looked fast, he was looking to run somebody over

It looked like Antonio Brown Them just doing little shovel passes To get him his bonus that he needed For a certain amount of receptions By the way, congrats to the Bucs for doing that Russell Wilson also did that Instead of taking a knee Because back in the day, you'd always hear coaches

They'd be like, hey, get your money You need to do a pick six Even if it's not the right move got it because back in the day you'd always hear coaches they'd be like hey get your money you know you need to do a pick six like even if it's not the right move like get your money and then it'll come to game time and somebody would need like 85 of the snaps uh to get a bonus and that person would mysteriously get benched around 84 it was like i thought we're getting our money i thought we were i thought we're all in on this thing. So a lot of coaches, right? It's not their decision. It's obviously ownership in front of somebody else's money, telling them what to do. But the coaches always put up a front, like, Hey, I'm here. You

get your money, right? You get your money. We're in this, you get your bread. Like that is always something that happens, right? Always said, then very rarely do you see it actually unfold for whatever reason, maybe there was a chance it couldn't happen or whatever. The Buccaneers, what I've been told, okay, I did a little digging. Now, this is not directly from, everybody knows. I know like a hundred people in that building. But from what I've been told is BA.A. and Byron Lefkowitz were very open with like, hey, if you got something, tell us. Let's go get it, basically. So, like, it was almost a plan going into the weekend.

Like, hey, if you got something, let us know. We'll go get it. But there's a lot of coaches that talk about that. Very few make it happen like they did for A.B. yesterday. Mike Evans, I believe. There was a couple other ones that they were just kind of drawn in the sand. I saw that with the Colts team whenever we were undefeated and we chose to lose.

A couple plays getting drawn up into sand. I believe Reggie Wayne was playing running back for a little bit, and there was like two screen passes thrown to him. And I love whenever teams come together. And it's a lot bigger than just that person getting his money. That's something you can pitch to free agents in the offseason. Like, hey, these bonuses we're putting in here, even though they're not guaranteed money, somebody else might offer you more guaranteed money or whatever these bonuses it's not like we're gonna fuck you like if if you're close we'll go and get

it for you you want to play here and that's why people ring chase by the way to tom it feels like the buccaneers are trying to do it all right but and it feels like that team is really hot right now they got to play a team that I assume they don't want to play, which is a great defensive line, the Washington football team. But if they can block that D line with the Washington football team, the Buccaneers could potentially make us all a lot of money because we all bet on them going to the Super Bowl as soon as we saw Tom Brady get signed to the Tomp and Bake You Gronkineers. And I think it's a good time to be hot for them.

And I also like that move of them letting people get money. Ty Schmidt. In the NFC, though, it's going to be tough. Because there is a quarterback that won the MVP last week on this show. Congrats to him. First drive by the Bears, eight minutes long or something like that. They're just sitting on a sideline. I don't know how.

They just have the mental toughness. Just like nothing matters. We'll go out and we'll just right down the field. It's a great defense, by the way. That Packers team is unbelievable right now. Yeah, they really are. And, I mean, to your point about starting to – I mean, the Bucs are – that's like the one team who I would kind of be a little bit worried about

because that's probably who the Packers would end up playing after the bye. But the Packers are playing their best ball right now as well. Like the defense is actually starting to play good. They played very well yesterday. They got put in some bad spots, but, I mean, the offense, you know, they had a little bit of a lull there. MVS dropped that touchdown and kind of swung the momentum a little bit, but when they decide they need to go, they can just go and score.

And everybody has to go through Lambeau. Right, which is huge. Never happened in Rodgers' career before. And Aaron, by the way, what does he say? I just embrace the suck or something like that. It sucks less for me than it does for them. What an incredible mind. However you get through it. Yeah. However you

get through it does not matter. Good for him, man. Alright, we gotta get to a break. What a hell of a start here on the Self Reaction Monday. We're at 20 minutes into this thing. What's going on? Don't worry about that Bucs team. They are playing late game primetime on Saturday, I believe, which is not good for Tommy and the boys.

Well, you know, as Tom had this sleep schedule his entire career. I don't know. Or is it just Reese from Guerrero? Yeah, but Guerrero won them a lot of Super Bowls. They won a lot of Super Bowls together. Those games were played at 640, though. Yeah,rero. Yeah, but Guerrero won them a lot of Super Bowls. They won a lot of Super Bowls together.

Yeah, those games were played at 640, though. Yeah, Super Bowls are, but the fucking games to get there, Connor. Jesus Christ. We had a lot of 3 o'clock AFC championships. Primetime is tough for them. Now that I think about it, I remember Tom just throwing a lot of legendary touchdowns with the sun still in the sky. Yep, exactly.

Remember, that's all you really think of. Yeah. Jesus. You're so stupid. What is it, though? Is it the team? Is it Tom? Remember, a couple weeks ago, they were practicing at night, trying to get used to it. Didn't work.

No, it didn't. Almost no one works. They're a team. Welcome back to the Pat McAfee Show. A lot of Oculus talk during a break there, AJ. A lot of Oculus. The one thing I'm interested in is the, I just want to play the ping pong and the boxing.

Other games don't really, I don't know. There's a drunken bar fight game too. Okay. It's pretty good. Nowhere near as tough as the boxing, your opponents, but you're still punching a bunch of people in the mouth. They get a time. Can't wait. Sounds awesome awesome it's a good time everybody i talked to about the boxing game i'm like listen i don't think i'm like a combative person at all but there's something

too just like giving somebody a body and watching their ribs like that garcia like that what not having to do in real life or the threat of getting punched in the actual face or anything, but also still getting the feeling of, you know, I just outwitted this fucking fake human. I mean, it's a good time. I've been getting knocked down, though, in a lot of my fights now because I'm up at the top. It's tough. You've got tougher competitions, like when you're going through, what, Mike Tyson punch-out back in the day? That's exactly what it is, by the way, but then you move up your levels or whatever. Eight guys or nine guys.

I forget if it's eight or nine guys. And then there's different levels, so you've got to fight the same guys. Kind of a little bit of a flaw, but it's still fun to fight them. Plus, you've got the strap. I'm going to go, yeah, well, at one level. I'm up at the next one. I'm going to have to beat fucking Edward Price again. Oh, shit.

Yeah, yeah. I switched to southpaw every once in a while. I can't hold my arms up anymore, AJ. It's fucking wild, dude. Anyways, let's get to this segment. We're supposed to potentially have Justin Tucker on the show. I guess he was going to potentially come on the show, but I don't know if we have him yet,

so let's do this segment. Then if Justin Tucker pops in, we'll chit-chat with the field goal legend from the Baltimore Ravens. I think he just had a game winner like last week or whatever. This past weekend he was just bombing balls. He's so good at football. We'll talk to him about life.

But let's get to hashtag Pat, I don't want to overreact, but. Pat, I don't want to overreact, but. Here we go, overreaction Monday. Let's get to him, Foxy. Please bring the first one up onto at tampa big red says so um hashtag pat i don't want to overreact oh my god the browns are in the playoffs and i woke up feeling dangerous congrats to the browns you're in ohio aj cleveland browns are in the playoffs nobody thought this day would ever come yeah i guess they didn't uh i don't know i i felt weird

watching like the the mass celebration when they just barely squeaked by the Steelers when they didn't have any starters playing. AJ, how come you can't have respect for decades of failure getting flipped on its head? How come you can't appreciate the fact that the Dog Pond has been a loyal fan base through terrible, god-awful, ridiculously bad, embarrassing, hilarious football

that the Cleveland Browns have put on the field for the last 18 years. Now Baker Mayfield, Stefanski, get them to the playoffs, turn of a tide for the entire dog pound. They go from little terrible kennel to fucking big-ass dog house for the dog pound just in one clean swoop of the Pittsburgh Steelers with Mason Rudolph at the helm, who is an NFL quarterback. Oh, yeah. People forget.

He is. I mean, I have a lot of respect for what the Browns did. I guess I just hold them to a higher standard. My expectations for the Browns aren't just like, oh, hey, we're happy to get into the playoffs. I didn't grow up a Browns fan. I am a fan of – I loved Bernie Kosar back in the day when he was a quarterback.

But, yeah, I just feel like, hey, Stefanski, I'm sure, wasn't like – Don't get hurt. I'm sure he's happy. Yeah, we broke the streak. We're in the playoffs. But he's like, hey, this is just – we're just scratching the surface of where we're going. I like that Stefanski's saying that because Stefanski was at Minnesota

when they had the Minneapolis miracle, right? That was a moment of happiness, you know? And I like Baker saying that, but Baker had success at Oklahoma, right? Oh, yeah. Yeah, so I like the players saying that And saying, hey, this isn't what we're trying to do But you've got to remember The entire fan base is like

Yeah, this is awesome This is not what we have experienced In any time in the recent history So we are very thankful I'm pumped for them Big game against the Pittsburgh Steelers The AFC North, three out of the four teams were represented Last year, the team that had the MVP And the number one. The AFC North, three out of the four teams were represented. Last year, the team that had

the MVP and the number one, the AFC North, got in the playoffs, also had the greatest kicker in the game. This year, Baltimore Ravens now one of the hottest teams in all of football going to be taking on the Tennessee Titans. Robert Griffin III told me they're going to go get their bike back. Still have the greatest

kicker in football, ladies and gentlemen, Justin Tucker. What's going on, dude? What's up, Pat? Thanks for having me, bud. Hey, you hit a 50-some yard game. When was that? Last week? A couple weeks ago, yeah. Playing Cleveland on Monday Night Football. That was a big one for us. We needed that big time. Oh, yeah.

It was 55 yard. Lamar Jackson, right? That was the one where he went and pooped. Came back out. big-time game. Then you hit an absolute slaughtered ball to win that thing at the end. I'll borrow one of your phrases, allegedly. Yeah, yeah. Smart, smart. How are you feeling?

Hey, your team. Now, I need you to talk to me in a serious fashion here, okay? Trust me, I don't need any bullshit. Your team going through that COVID thing. Your team looked uninspired, right? You guys did. It looked like a completely different Baltimore Ravens team. Last year, watching the Ravens, it was like electric.

And then there was a little bit of a time period this year where it looked like the juice was potentially lost. You guys were going through COVID. You weren't even allowed in the same room. Then something happened, and you guys are all the way back. What was it? What made you guys flip the switch to become the team that's very hot again? And what made, what was it? Was there a determining factor? Was there something that happened that we missed from a national standpoint? You know, it's hard to say if

there's any one particular moment. I think there were several, you know, there were several things that we had to face as a team. Obviously, our COVID situation was incredibly tough to navigate. And I think in a way, as much as we physically had to separate, we came together as a team in a way that was, you know, I mean, it's incredibly unique. And very much in 2020 fashion, we had to find a way to, you know, just get a game played at Pittsburgh with, you know, just a handful of our roster available. And that's what it felt like. And then to go out there and, I mean, we didn't get the result that we wanted but we like left it all out there we had a

bunch of guys that had never even you know that that were frankly probably never even thinking I'm going to be starting on the offensive line this week I'm going to be starting for the Baltimore Ravens playing the Pittsburgh Steelers this week and they did and they stepped up in a really big way and I think that in a way way that experience in its entirety galvanized our team in a way that, like I said, only 2020 could offer that sort of adverse situation that we had to navigate. Justin, what's one of the toughest surfaces, I guess, in the league to kick off? I watch different kickers and I always see

Chicago. They have that long Notre Dame grass. I'm like, man, that must be tough as a kicker. Are there places that are easier than others? There's definitely... I mean, anywhere inside is typically easier. I would say no kick is ever easy.

It's about making it look that way consistently over and over and over again, and that's why you have the Adam Vinatieris and the Robbie Golds, the guys who make kicks over and over and over again. Phil Dawson comes to mind, a guy who played many, many years in one of the toughest places to play, Cleveland, with Lake Erie right on the other side of the stadium. But the toughest places to kick, in my opinion,

I think our stadium is incredibly tough to kick. Just given that we play on a natural grass surface. Our guys do a great job of taking care of it throughout the year. But it's just incredibly tough with the way the wind swirls around in there. And then Heinz Field is obviously one that sticks out. I played at Chicago one time, and we happened to play in the middle of, I think, like a tornado. So the field was brutal.

But anywhere where the grass is long and it gets cold and windy, it's just tougher to kick hey tuck i want to get inside your brain a little bit here okay because what you just referred to there with vinitary and robbie gold and phil dawson and you can even go with the hansen who played forever but none of his games mattered ever so you have to question every single kick whether he made it or missed it didn't matter because they were lions so i still think to be that great at something for that long, there's a lot of people that have big legs. There's a lot of people that can kick balls far.

From a mental aspect, how often do you work on that? Is that like an everyday thing? Do you do like meditation in the morning? Because mental is everything. It's golf, pitching, kicking, punting. It's all in between the years everything now granted you have to have the explosivity to be able to bomb a ball which you do and anybody in the nfl does but the in-between years thing how often do you work on that i mean honestly i don't know i don't

really know if i do to be perfectly honest i think i just uh you know i i mean i don't want to get all kumbaya on you, but I think I just take every moment for what it's worth and I enjoy it. And I just try to focus. At the end of the day, what's going on in between your ears when you're lining up a kick? For those 1.3 seconds between the snap, the hold, and when the time the ball leaves my foot,

what's going on in between my ears doesn't really matter. What matters is making the kick, seeing the ball come off my foot, what's going on in between my ears doesn't really matter. What matters is making the kick, seeing the ball come off my foot, making sure my plant is wide and I'm exploding off of my plant down the field toward my small target line. And, I mean, as I'm talking about it, that's like, you know. That's a lot of shit. That's a bunch of stuff, and there's a lot of detail that goes into each one of those things, as you well know, Pat.

I'm not going to go down as one of those things, as you well know, Pat. But, you know. I'm not going to go down as one of the greatest kickers of all time. So hearing you say it is a real thing. It makes me kind of feel good about when I kick. I was like, I had some of those same thoughts as Justin Tucker. Like, you know what I mean? Because Vinny. Straight up.

Straight up. Every time I go and take the field, whether it's the first practice in OTAs, and I'm just trying to put through that first PAT of field goal period in the middle of May. Well, not this year, but every other year in the middle of May. And or whether it's that or game winning field goal on Monday night football in December, there's all the feelings. It's just to what degree are you feeling them? I mean, I'll have a combination of fear and excitement and confidence, anxiety. And then when the ball leaves my foot, exhilaration. And then when I see it go through the post, relief.

All of those things happen in a really short period of time. But if I've learned anything, it's that none of those feelings actually determine whether or not you make the kit. The only thing that matters is executing. And once I once I really bought into that wholeheartedly, I mean, I, I like this last week, yesterday, I, yeah, today's Monday, yesterday in Cincinnati, you know, we're playing a game that we need to win to get in. We don't want to rely on anybody else's results to get into the post season. And before the game, I'm,

I'm sitting in the locker room and I'm just, I'm really nervous. You know, I can't help it. Like if you're not nervous, then you're not're not you know like it's almost like you don't care and like I think that's like one of the greatest sins in professional sports is not caring enough to be like a little nervous a little scared but then when you go out onto the field and you know you've done it a million times in practice it's you know there's a lot of stuff that comes kind of second nature. And then there's a lot of stuff that you got to kind of adapt in that moment. So if the wind is blowing hard in your face, right to left, you got to put the ball in the right quarter of the uprights to start off the flight path. You know, all of those things come together in a kind of serendipitous, like beautiful way. And that's to me, one of the like sickest things about playing professional sports is like,

just taking all that in and then putting it into something that helps your team win. AJ has a great question for you. I can't wait for it, but let me tell you what it looks like when you go on the field. Oh, there's a guy that's going to slaughter a fucking football. I mean, every single time you go out there, you just – and it's – the spin, the rotation is so good. It's one of the most true things and pure things in sports,

to be honest with you. So congrats on that. Not easy to do. Doesn't get talked about. Congrats on another Pro Bowl. Well deserved, my friend. AJ, what do you got? Yeah, Justin, I just want to know with this year,

how different is it without the big crowds there? I know from being on the other side when guys would yell the stupidest things to kickers to try to get them to miss. I'm just wondering now, like you have to be able to hear everything. Does that change anything? You definitely hear more on the field. I've heard more from the sidelines. I think guys on the field are more or less just concerned with executing their assignment

and less concerned with trash-talking the kicker who's probably going to make the kick anyways. I hear more from the sideline than I do from what's actually happening on the field. But, I mean, again, it doesn't really matter. And I feel like I'm uniquely prepared for exactly that because I had Terrell Suggs as my teammate for like seven years. So anything anybody else has to say pales in comparison to whatever Sizz could come up with on a given Wednesday or Thursday during field goal period. Hey, ball's so hard at university, bro.

You've got to learn to – On period. Hey, ball's so hard at university, bro. You've got to learn. Oh, God. Yeah. Oh, God. Before we let you go, can't thank you enough. Another incredible year by you. Ravens-Titans playoff matchup. Robert Griffin III told us one team's excited to go get their bike back,

which is what happened last year when the Titans came in, stole your bike. What is the thoughts going into this week? And have you played in Nashville? Are you excited to get into that stadium? I'll answer the second part first. Like, played in Nashville two times. And it's a fun stadium. It's a great city. We're obviously not going to be able to, like, explore or go and grab a, you know, bite to eat or something. I mean, like my favorite, my favorite Tex-Mex place that I grew up with in Austin, you know, kind of smaller chain,

Chewy's. Chewy's. Yeah. We got one here in Indy. Oh yeah. Sick dude. All right. So on my deathbed last meal,

swear to God would be Chewy's, Chicka Chicka Boom Boom enchiladas with the dinner, the beef dinner taco on the side and the guac. Wash it all down with a giant Dr. Pepper and finish the whole thing off with some tres leches. Chef's kiss. That's your deathbed order right there? Chicka chicka boom boom?

Yes, Pat. Did I stutter? No, you didn't. That was kind of the problem I had. Sorry about that. Shout out to Chewy's. It is good. I mean, I'm a little biased because I lived basically next door to the original Chewy's for a couple years while we were in college.

And I was basically a regular at the spot. So I'm a little biased, a little homegrown kind of feel there. But as far as getting our bike bike, our proverbial bike back, I personally am less concerned with that, and I'm just thinking more about making kicks, man. Smart. Like this matchup has kind of evolved into a really fun, unique rivalry that is reminiscent of the Shannon Sharp AFC Central days.

And that's, I think in a way, like the league kind of coming full circle like that over a period of time. I think that's really cool. But, you know, as far as this matchup being any different to me personally, no, not really. I'm just trying to do my job, bro. You're hilarious, dude. Hey, before we let you go,

University of Texas is all upside down. Oh, yeah. Firing coach after coach. Okay, cool, hook them. Okay, cool, get the hell out, pal. Now we got Sarkeesian in there. And we're back, baby. Oh, okay.

That was a softball. Oh, okay. All right. That was a softball. I appreciate it. What is the deal? What is the deal with Texas? What is this region sport of council that you hear about? Because all the higher end people in college football, they go, well, if you get the Texas job, you got to be able to handle the region sport of governors or something like this, and they make decisions. Why is it so hard to win in Texas?

Do you guys make it impossible down there? Because it's awesome in Austin. The school has great tradition. Is it impossible to win there, or what is it? I certainly don't think so. Myself, personally, I was a part of some great Texas teams, a team that went and won a Fiesta Bowl, a team that went to a national championship. And we – I mean, we lost that one, but that's another story there.

Hey, got to the dance. Got to the dance. A lot of teams don't make it. We were there. We were shuffling. But, I mean, you mentioned the Board of Regents and all that stuff, and, like, that's way beyond me. That's, like, some Hunger Games level.

and that stuff. And like, that's, that's way beyond me. That's like some hunger games level. I don't, I have no, I have no comment on the board of regents. Plus I don't want them like showing up at my house or something.

You know, I'm smart. I'm scared. Straight up. Well, they need you this weekend. Good luck this weekend. Thank you for your time.

Keep crushing it. Ladies and gentlemen, Justin Tucker. Thank you. Thanks for having me guys. Hey, no problem. He's really good at his job. Oh yeah, brother. Thanks for having me, guys. Hey, no problem. He's really good at his job. Oh, yeah.

He's probably an incredible golfer, too, if I had to guess, right? Because it's just like repeat, set, and repeat. Unbelievable. Yeah. AJ, do we want to get back to your overreactions? Is that what we need? Was there any breaking news while we were on there? Not that I know of.

Hey, big thanks to Tuck for joining us, by the way. Yeah, he looks good. Him and Ty, I thought were doppelgangers. I thought they were family. What do you got there, Nick? The Chan Gailey being fired is hotly disputed right now on the internet. ESPN wrote a story about it, but Schefter has still not tweeted about it. There was a fake Schefter tweet that went around earlier.

Oh, no. Diggs got got by a fake Schefter. A darn Schefter. A darn Schefter? A darn Schefter got you, Dave? No, it literally says on ESPN.com it has an article that says reported by Adam Schefter. Okay.

Why hasn't he tweeted it? That's a good question. Hey, maybe the ESPN.com digital team got had by the fake Schefter. That's what people think because the fake tweet is about 20 minutes before the ESPN article. Oh, my God.

A darn Schefter got him? Oh, no. Can't have it. Because then you've got people dancing on his grave in Indianapolis, Indiana, who are Dolphins fans out of nowhere. And then when they extend him, think of how he's going to feel. How's Gumby? You're never going to get those words back, don't you?

Never going to be able to... They're already out there. I don't care if he's there or not. He stinks. Oh, wow! See, that didn't have to happen. Heads are rolling at ESPN right now. I doubt it, but somebody should do something.

I mean, granted, they're not the only ones who misreport things. No. I mean, we've they're not the only ones who misreport things. No. I mean, we've done that. It happens. What? Well, we reported somebody's misreporting of somebody passing. You remember that? No.

And we got attacked. Let's get back to the overreaction, shall we? Hell yeah. And then we'll take some phone calls. This one's from Randy Fraley here. Hashtag Pat, I don't want to overreact, but is the Bengals' Zach Taylor getting one more year just because Joe Burrow has one more good knee? This was the tweet i was referring to why why do you think the bangles are so bullish on the foundation that zach taylor has put together and joey burrow has put out a

tweet saying he can't wait to get back out there and everything like that what is zach taylor and i'm not around cincinnati enough what has he done to make people believe you know what this guy's a guy this guy can get us some wins. Does he have good press conferences? What happens over there? I don't know. I mean, press conferences are so terrible now, too, because they're all through Zoom. I have a hard time watching them.

But, I mean, Zach Taylor, he's there because he's still under contract. The Bengals don't want to fire a coach and still pay him and then have to pay the new staff to come in. So there's a lot of money involved, I feel like, when they want to fire a coach. And the Bengals are not one of those teams that is cool just firing a guy with, what does he probably have, two years after this, three years left, and having

to pay all that money? See, everybody's upset about what Peterson did yesterday. Well, how come more people aren't mad about the Bengals and how they run their operation? You know? That's how they've always run the operation. That's why. That's what I'm talking about, though. For however long it's just been able to be, yeah, yeah, yeah, do whatever. We're just here for the cash.

Everybody knows it. We're just here for the cash, okay? You boys got there and play. The Brown family's going to rake in cash. We're going to be the president of the team, general manager of the team. We're going to do this. We're going to give ourselves million-dollar contracts. We're just going to go ahead.

And by the way, if the team stinks, eh, team stinks yeah team's not happy you need a scouting department we ain't got one like shouldn't that be talked about a little bit more maybe don't you think that is something that's more disrespectful to the nfl than anything that could have happened on sunday night football last night it does get talked about a little bit but it's more like the old term inside baseball when they want to talk about like the front office of the bangles and how like people get i think when you when you get too deep into it, especially when you're talking about front office, scouting departments, all this stuff inside an indoor practice facility, which you mentioned daily,

people just – I think they tune out. They don't really care. Well, I just know that there was times at midnight, 12.45 a.m., where I wanted to get extra work in, and I went to the Colts indoor practice facility, turned on the lights, grabbed the aux cord. I went to work hour, hour and a half to learn how to fucking punt. You think any Cincinnati Bengals doing that? Probably not.

No way in hell. And that's just one little indicator. That's just one little indicator of the way everything else is being run. And the fact that you are so certain that the reason why they're not moving on from Zach Taylor, and it's not because of success or promise or anything, it is strictly just because of the dollar amount. I mean, when you take heart out of the sport and you only think about the bottom line,

I mean, that needs to be discussed in a fashion that Doug Peterson putting fucking Nate Sudfeld on the field is discussed. Bengals fans should be storming the castles. Yes, right now, as we speak, to get that place built. But they won't. We'll go on another year. We'll take another trip around the sun. We'll buy a starship, some spaceship that Elon made that's only $5 million.

We'll go up into space. We'll come back. We'll go to Mars. Three years there, three years back. Bengals will still be doing the same old bullshit. Their fans don't deserve it. The players don't deserve it. And most certainly, the beautiful game of football doesn't deserve it.

They didn't let Marvin Lewis go until all of his guaranteed money was gone because they don't like paying coaches to not work. You were trying to get him fired for a long time. It turns out he was maybe a godsend over there. Why the fuck would you hire this guy to like a six-year contract if you have no idea what he can do, if you're just going to let him stay the entire time? I mean, then it doesn't matter at all.

They'll probably sign the next person to a 15-year contract so they can lock it in at the prices that it's in right now for the next 15 years and just like, yeah. Are you going to win? Don't care. What's the deal you're willing to take? All right, $1 million a year? Let's lock you in for the next 100 years.

Till death, pal. Till death. You got the job. Way to go. Get Burrow out of there. No, Joe's pumped. Yeah, can't wait to play again. Joe's put out a tweet, said he's pumped to go there.

Until his left knee explodes next year. Whoa, whoa, whoa. I hope it doesn't happen. That didn't sound like it with the way you said that. No, I love Joe Burrow, but Jesus Christ, protect the guy. I think the Oculus maybe did something inside my ear hole here. There we go. Well, no, it's just a little, there's something going on.

Is the eardrum again? Is it acting up? I don't know. I can't feel it. Is that L1, L2, or L4, L5? What is it? T. Yeah, thank God.

T1, T2, L4, L5. By the way, those are okay. We did get the scans back. Thanks for asking, Aaron. Let's go to the next one, please. This is from C. Shandbrum, Chris Shandbrum. Hashtag Pat, I don't want to overreact, but hearing Ron Rivera say, hey, thanks, at the handshake made me want to punch my television.

Thankfully, I value my hand. Says New York Giants fan right there. Ron Rivera, by the way, going to Doug Peterson and saying, thanks for what you did there, man. Is a hilarious little right into the Giants fans. But Giants Rivera, by the way, going to Doug Peterson and saying, thanks for what you did there, man. He's a hilarious little right into the Giants fans. But Giants fans, you guys won six games. Everybody doesn't even... The rest of the NFL

was worried that the NFC East even got an opportunity to be in the playoffs. I can see how Doug Peterson directly affected you, but the whole season, too. The whole season. Yeah, I mean, I can understand in the moment if you're a Giants fan or you're a Giants player and you're watching that game, I can see you being frustrated and being upset. And then as soon as the game is over, you have a second to think about it.

Like, well, I can't be too upset. Like, we won six games. We stink. Yeah, we fucking suck. We needed help everywhere. Like, this was not like all that mattered to us. And we wouldn't have had that moment with Chase Young sitting on the middle of the field after the game. Yes.

You know what I mean? Which is – Go ahead. ESPN says that Changeli has not been fired and the error has been corrected and the story has been removed from ESPN.com. A darn... A darn Schefter got somebody at ESPN. Wow.

Oh, no. Hey, big congrats to Changeli, by the way. Yeah. That was it. Changeli's still got a gig down there in Miami. Congrats to all the Dolphins fans everywhere getting somebody who's been around the game for so long who's a steadfast and a constant

to that Dolphins team that is currently on the rise. To speak for Dolphins fans, our resident Dolphins fan, Bubba Gumpino. It's only a matter of time. Enjoy it while you can, Shane. Seems like Gumpy enjoyed the first news break as opposed to the correction

A little bit You want to go to some phone calls AJ? Yeah let's do it Let's go to Vaughn in Indianapolis What's going on Vaughn? Hey Pat, Vaughn Lylas here How's it going today? Oh this guy chopped the shit out of me

This guy's a wrestler OVW wrestler First person I trained with with Rip Rogers And it would end every single time with chops This guy might a wrestler. Okay, OVW wrestler. First person I trained with with Rip Rogers, and it would end every single time with chops. This guy might be 6'9", with the wingspan of a fucking maybe Avatar bird. Whoa. And his chops would be bruised for weeks.

Jeez. Good guy, though. Used to be a teacher. Go ahead, Vaughn. He's calling in to save the show today. Oh, okay. Thank you, Vaughn. Appreciate that.

What do you want to talk about, brother? I got cut in front of Justin Tucker, but that's alright. I want to slow down a little bit on the Doug Peterson thing. I thought it was great. I thought it was one of the greatest things I've ever seen. I thought his interview was awesome. He's been with us for four years. He hasn't

got a play yet at all. I just thought it was time to get a chance. I thought that was great. Why, if we're going to go after him, why are we not going after Tomlin? I mean, he played Mason Rudolph in a meaningful game. We're not going after Frank Reich. He tried to throw a game yesterday. I mean, come on.

Nate Sudfeld, I believe, is an Indiana guy, right? Yeah. Yeah. A lot of Indiana people tweeting about me tweeting about Nate Sudfeld. It was kind of a predicament I was in because I didn't know he was an IU guy. There was a lot of people happy to see him get his shot.feld. It was kind of a predicament I was in because I didn't know he was an IU guy. There was a lot of people happy to see him get his shot, and then that shot kind of withered away, but nothing to say.

That long ball he threw was pretty nice. Pretty nice. Yeah, it looked good coming out of his hand. Yeah, tight spiral. The punt? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. It did spin. It was sort of like Wolford.

Yeah. Wolford got a dub. His defense got him a safety uh pick six and then there was a field goal obviously why didn't the uh why didn't all made sudfell's boys do that i mean they tried they got like seven turns last night oh man i don't think there's i don't think there's any way that doug peterson made this decision on his own like do you think he like was the rest of the team shocked when they saw this happen i don't know that's That's interesting because Jason Kelsey gives that entire speech, you know, like a week ago about culture of winning and everything, and then this happens.

It's like maybe Kelsey knew it was coming, and maybe Kelsey just did that whole speech to kind of stir the pot. You know what I mean? I'd love that. Maybe. But Doug's staying, right? They announced that he's going to be there? I think him and Howie did a joint Zoom today, I believe.

I don't know how it went. I saw that it was happening. So Carson Wentz, they're going to try to unload him. Is Jalen Hurts the guy? Are they going to go somewhere else at 6? What are they going to do? Let Sudfeld get a whole week of preparation. Is that what they were trying to find out?

Whether or not Sudfeld was a starter or not? I think so. He's started before, hasn't he? I have no clue. I don't know. Let's go to Aaron in Oregon. What's going on, Aaron? A lot of Oregon calls. Aaron, what's going go to Aaron in Oregon. What's going on, Aaron? A lot of Oregon calls.

Aaron, what's going on? Hey, Pat, what's going on? First, I want to say cheese and peas to Zito with the COVID and gout combo. Quite a deal there. That is. It's like hawking animal. And second, calling in to say that the Chiefs stink and they're not going to win the Super Bowl.

Not even close. Not even close, huh? They already won one playoff game without even playing one. Why do you think they're not even close to winning the Super Bowl? Because Josh fucking Allen is coming for that ass. I like that. Josh Allen fans are loud right now for a good reason. He looks unbelievable, AJ.

Hey, Josh Allen looks unbelievable right now. Looks great. He's playing with a ton of confidence. He's justinging that thing i agree the bills they do look great but you know what i don't i think out of the first round matchups they have a tough one with the colts i think the colts are a scary team i think so too that opportunistic defense okay against josh allen and way they play they could get a couple turnovers right now granted on the complete opposite side josh allen could get hot and they could go but that defense could create a couple turnovers the colts getting seven seems like a lot of points but you do have to recall philip river's in the playoffs i think that's probably what the books

are going right now i don't know it's an interesting with jonathan taylor they're a different team that colts team they found like a uh i don't want to say an identity but it feels like they found an identity here late in the season now this is back-to-back second halves where they have gone to complete shit basically and then they uh jonathan taylor kind of saved them out this past weekend against the jaguars but i don't know the colts are a scary team but josh allen's playing like aaron right now by the way he's playing like aaron like confident slinging it aaron just has been doing it the entire season and for his entire career have you ever seen your guy a rod just as

confident as comfortable and as just everything that he is he looks so fucking comfortable out there 19 completions yesterday four of them for touchdown should have been five i mean it's just unbelievable football out of that guy well time might know that the stats better than me i'm sure he does i believe that coming out of the lockout, I remember Aaron played well in the preseason, and he just rolled it into the regular season. We went 15-1. I don't know. Did he win MVP that year, Ty?

It was probably 2011? Yeah, he did. He had 45 touchdowns and six picks last year. Yeah, that's what, like, you know, watching him for a long time, this is the best statistical year of his career, which is kind of crazy. Yeah. I mean, I just hope that, yeah, I hope the rest of the team is able to handle this bye week.

Like I know Aaron will be fine, but it's weird, man. When you have that week before the playoffs and all the other teams kind of have some momentum, there's a weird thing because you fight for the bye and then you're never really sure how your team's going to play once you come off that bye. Aaron, what's your message to your team going into the bye week? I think you said don't get fucking COVID. Yeah.

you come off that bye. Aaron, what's your message to your team going into bye week? I think you said, don't get fucking COVID. That 10-day mandatory jail sentence, if you come up with a positive, is the NFL saying, don't get fucking COVID. We are in the playoffs. Lock it down. A darn Schefter might not say

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Ladies and gentlemen, Darius Butler. Darius Butler! Darius Butler, fellas. No Miami Dolphins hat on today, huh? That's weird. We were taking bets on whether or not we thought you were going to be wearing a Dolphins hat today. That was a big question we had around here. Nah, man.

Nah, they're out of game right now. Okay, well, we talked about the Dolphins sucking and not knowing who their quarterback is and what they're going to do from the offensive coordinator. I mean, we talked about the team being good but having a lot of questions still earlier. So I don't want to kind of bore you and your time with the Miami Dolphins because there's a lot bigger things to talk about. If you're playing for the Eagles, Doug Peterson, and you've witnessed all this drama all year, that's all it's been.

Now that things are starting to linger out,on's gonna ask for a trade his relationship with doug peterson is fractured beyond repair they said it's like okay i don't know who's leaking that information but it's somebody who knows what's going on it sounds like now granted they had to walk those back a little bit but it's all bush the drama if you're in that locker room behind then jason kelsey a couple weeks ago goes on a speech about how your culture has to be about winning. And then last night they pulled Jalen in a primetime divisional game to knock out a playoff team. They don't want to see what he's like in the fourth quarter of that game. They want to see Nate Sudfeld get meaningful reps to see if he's the guy.

If you're for the Eagles, what is your mindset right now on the Eagles going forward? I mean, if you're a player, it's tough, man. Like you said, you saw Kelsey come out, pour his heart out in that media interview, the mullet out. And you know what players go through, especially week 17, put your body through shit all year. And you get out there and you see them pulling hurts

and basically tanking in front of the whole NFL world. And for that to be the last game of the 2020 season that we all see on primetime, I think that's why you're getting, you know, the big overreaction. But, you know, that comes from the top. They're trying to secure their draft spot. Obviously weren't going to win the division. Damn sure don't care about the Giants and how they feel. So they did what's best, I guess, from the front office standpoint,

but from the players from that locker room, the respect that you have for the coach, I think that drastically drops in my opinion. Hey, I think so too, honestly. Unless they were told, you know? And if they were told, then that would have already came out, I assume. You know what I mean? If they were told like, hey, boys, this is what we're going to do.

Fourth quarter, we're going to get some young guys in. I know it's not going to make everybody happy. It's not going to make everybody happy. But we have to do this looking ahead from a franchise. And if Doug Peterson did that to the team, I think the team would be like, okay, we hate it, obviously. Because we would like film. But at least he told us the truth. Whenever it happened, I would

assume there was a lot of, oh, what the fuck? This is how we're going to go out on this terrible year. I guess it puts a good cap on it. The hilarious thing to me was those Giants fans not happy. Not happy. They win six games on a year. You know what I mean? They get a big win against Andy Dawn and the Cowboys last week of the season, and they're like, we deserve a shot.

And goddamn Doug Peterson's fucking us over right now. Yeah, them boys are hot, man. But like I said, the Phillies Yeah, them boys are hot, man. But like I said, the Phillies, they could give a shit, man. I mean, you pull hurts. Maybe you pull them to get Nate in there, but also if that's going to be your guy going forward, why risk

him getting hurt, I guess. He wasn't playing great, obviously. Still gave him two touchdowns on the ground. Wasn't really slinging it right through the air. But it's a decision that they made. We all going to move on and live with it. We got no choice. You know, down with the Giants.

Saw Eli Manning and I think it was Fletcher Cox or somebody going back and forth on Twitter. That was funny. But, you know, it is what it is, man. Yeah, I agree. Get over it. Dan Orlovsky's entrenched in battle right now on Twitter. And he's entrenched. I mean, this is like a every other week thing for Orlovsky's entrenched in battle right now on Twitter. And he's entrenched. I mean, this is like a every other week thing for Orlovsky.

But anytime you get a tweet that has 5,000, 6,000 tweets, you're going to find the enemy of what you're saying. Oh, absolutely. Whenever I was, you know, a smaller Twitter account, oh, my God, I had so much more fun. I was just sawing things down. But then you get to a point where all of a sudden that group has a fan club and then you have to make a decision on whether or not you want your mentions to just be uh do i want to deal with this you start weighing you know the the

pros and cons of every tweet so anytime you get a tweet that gets 5 000 6 000 retweets like dan's note did which by the way he did not decide to crop that down at all. He said, I'm going to let you know how the fuck I did this. That was an emotional tweet, man. That was fresh off the presses. Look how much service I have. Look how much battery percentage I have. Okay. Look at when this was typed up. I'm sending this whole goddamn thing, just to let you know. And by the way, when you get that many retweets, that means a lot of people feel the same way you do. But a retweet isn't as loud as the tweets that you're getting.

So I feel like Dan potentially has been entrenched in battle. For me, the big takeaway is the Giants fans being pissed off was my favorite part of the whole thing. I don't think I care enough about the Eagles to be upset about them doing that in the fourth quarter. But if you're an Eagles fan or something like that, you see how you can be mad but you're gonna forget about it tomorrow you're like whenever your draft pick happens it's gonna be like oh I got a good draft pick all right who cares what happened this last year that's just the way the world is let's keep moving the Tampa Bay Buccaneers look like a good football team Darius did you get a chance to see them

yesterday AB got his money by the way a lot of coaches talk about it they actually did it loved it loved that uh but they seem to be getting hot at the right time D but yeah they're getting hot AB got his money, by the way. A lot of coaches talk about it. They actually did it. Loved it. Loved that. But they seem to be getting hot at the right time, D-Butt. Yeah, they're getting hot, man. You saw Mike Evans go down. You know, we'll see how serious that injury is. Obviously, he's a big weapon for them. But, you know, Godwin went off.

You get Ronald Jones playing the ball right. Godwin's really fucking good, by the way. Hey, he's a baller. We know he's nice, but, you know, getting healthy, getting on the same page with Brady down the stretch. A.B. getting on the same page with Brady down the stretch, getting him his money. And even if, you know, Mike Evans isn't able to play in this first game, you know, you still got two, you know, legit certified number one receivers out there. And you can't count out 87 either. Gronk is still Gronk, especially with 12. So the boys got hot at the right time, man.

You know it's all about getting hot going into the playoffs. And, you know, he played some shitty teams down the stretch, so I won't get too carried away. Why is everybody going to do that? Why is everybody going to do that? Everybody does that. I'll say something that compliments somebody, and I'll get, obviously, 13 D-butts on it.

Well, that team fucking stinks. Of course he played well. That team is terrible. That feels like that is something that happens. But you never really know until you know. That's like the comment about the Packers, how they've beaten the same amount of above 500 teams. Like, it can't schedule it.

That's not on them. It's just them getting good at football. But they're playing a team. They do what they're supposed to do. The Washington football team, okay, obviously a hell of a story. You got exposés coming out. You got no goddamn name. Your head coach has cancer. Your quarterback

doesn't have a shin. I mean, there is just unbelievable that they win. I mean, he doesn't. It's a hamstring for a shin. They had to tighten it up. The guy, 17 surgeries. Alex Smith, congratulations. Come back player of the year for sure. This is not who the Tampa tighten it up. The guy, 17 surgeries. Alex Smith, congratulations.

Comeback player of the year for sure. This is not who the Tampa Bay Buccaneers wanted to play, right? With that defensive line? This is not the squad that they wanted to play, I don't think. Man, that D line is nasty, man. Chase Young, Sweat coming off those edges. Obviously, that's how you beat

this team. You affect the quarterback. You affect Brady. Chase Young coming out with the comments. Me and A.B. talked about it this morning. We love it. You know, you coming out. You saying you want Brady. You going to get him. But you got to know what's on the other side of that.

12 is an assassin. So I've been his teammates. And he hears, he sees all of that shit. And, you know, I've been on both sides of up 35, down 35 against him. And he's cheering and fist pumping like, you know, he just made a go-ahead touchdown in overtime. So it'll be a good game to watch, man. But I'm excited about it.

I'm excited about their front, how they respond. But it's going to be about that Tampa Bay run game. If they get that run game going, it's going to be an ugly matchup. That's kind of my sleeper on the NFC side as a fifth seed to make a run. Tampa. The Bucs, the Bucs. Yeah, it's crazy to say Tom Brady's a sleeper, but. Yeah, I got a lot of money on him making the Super Bowl,

but I feel like I bet it early. As soon as he went down there, he was meeting with Bill Gates and all them. Was that before Aaron Rodgers Tuesday? Yeah, it actually was. It actually was, yeah. I bet on that as soon as Aaron Rodgers Tuesday got locked in, by the way. I like that. They're looking good.

Hey, unbelievable right now. I mean, if it's not for the MVS drop, there's no momentum swing in that game at all. It knows the doors are just blown up. Now, MVS also had a touchdown, by the way. I'm not saying, like, he fucked it. You get it. But that game against a good defense chuck's defense i guess some the internet experts that do the film study said that chuck made a couple suspect calls but i feel like when you're playing aaron rogers there's really not

much you can do at this point yeah you i mean you you just hope somebody gets home you can make whatever call you want but um if he's on the same page with his guys out there he can he's one of those guys that could put the ball wherever the hell he wants. And it's going to be tough to go through Lambeau and beat 12 with the season he's having, man. They better draft another quarterback in the first or second round next year. Hey, D-Butt. His playoff run, though.

D-Butt, you do numbers, dude. There's currently 38,000 people watching on YouTube. We'd like to let you know there has to be something better for you to be doing, but we're thankful that you're not. Thankful that you're not. This is big for an overreaction Monday. We're not overreacting, by the way. These are facts, everything we're saying.

All facts. Indianapolis Colts, Buffalo Bills. Josh Allen looks damn near arrogant at this point with the way he's playing football. That Miami Dolphins defense, by all counts, pretty good defense. He looked unbelievable. The Bills seem to, under McDermott's patience, right, and old Mr. Bean up there, they've grown. I mean, that is a team up there.

Now, listen, the Colts have great defense, okay. Jonathan Taylor is a dude. This is going to be a good game. But the Bills have to be very comfortable with where they're at. Scary, scary, scary team. I would probably – the hottest team going into the playoffs, I would say, especially on the AFC side, you got Josh Allen. Obviously, we played week 17.

You look at the Steelers, they rested, which I don't think they should have. The Chiefs, they rested right before bye week. We'll see how that goes. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Stop, stop. Why don't you think they should have rested? The Steelers? Yeah.

I mean, they played like shit down the stretch, man. They had a good second half against the Colts. I think they should have at least built on that, played the first half at least, get your guys going, get some momentum going, and then maybe rest once the game is in hand. Hey, I thought so too, by the way. Yeah, they didn't play well enough to – they didn't have the luxury of resting their guys.

But you got an old guy quarterback who, you know, you want to protect. I mean, you lost some obviously very talented pieces of defense already, but the pre-Devin Bush. So, you know, you don't want to get Watt hurt. So, I get it from that standpoint. But we'll see. We'll see. D-Bot, we have to remember, week four by week.

You know what I mean? Like, it was –, week four bye week. You know what I mean? Like, it was. It's not like a, you know what I mean? That's a very early. Not a real bye week. And it wasn't really. They didn't even know until Friday or Saturday. Not that there was any real bye weeks this year anyways.

But they didn't even know they were in a bye week until they were in a bye week. I felt like you, though. They learned how to play football again in the second half against the Indianapolis Colts. Now, the Colts might have collapsed there completely, which they almost did yesterday. Did a jacks, which unbelievable. But give the ball to Jonathan Taylor. Let's pawn that thing. I mean, he is a great player at this point.

But the thought of, yeah, I don't know. I don't know. That's got to be the recipe for the Colts, too. They learned how to play football again. And why wouldn't you just go out and get them? Now, they let the guys stay home. But my first thought was, let them go and just do like two, three more drives and we're all on the same page and then kind of move on.

But then everybody was like, it was a week four bye week, though. And it's really, it's a tough situation. I trust Tomlin. I trust Tomlin. Like, I think Tomlin has a pretty good feel of his team. But that's going to be something that people are going to talk about if the Browns make this a real, real game, which they definitely can, by the way.

Diggs, what do you got? I was just going to say, if Ben gets hurt, you might as well not even play the game. The Browns are going to blow out the Steelers in the playoffs. But I think Tomlin's smart enough to know that the Dolphins were going to get blown out by the Bills, so there was no chance to get up to the two seed. And you get to play the worst team in the AFC playoffs in the Browns next week

when you would have had to play the Colts. How about that shot at the Bills? Big shot. Big shot. I mean, they barely beat old Mason yesterday, so I guess it's not a terrible shot. But if they get that run game going, that two-headed monster in the backfield and play some good defense,

they got a chance. But we'll see. We'll see. We'll see. That should be a good game, though. It should be a good game. Hey, Derrick Henry, and last one here before we let you go. Can't thank you enough, by the way, D.

All year, by the way, thank you for what you did for this show. Thank you, guys, man. I loved it. No, no. We appreciate you so much. You made our show a lot better this year. Ravens okay Baltimore Ravens playing the Tennessee Titans and Robert Griffin the third tweeted me last night okay and he said I don't know if you saw this did you you if you saw it you can't wait for me to say it and if you didn't I didn't say it okay so I asked I asked one

question whenever I put up the AFC playoffs picture. I said, who's happiest? Okay, who's happiest out of everybody in the AFC playoff with the way it was all set up? Obviously, Kansas City with a bye. Bills, Colts, Ravens, Titans. You get it. Cleveland, Pittsburgh. I said, who's happiest?

Robert Griffin III answered and said, one team's pumped to get their bike back or something like that. And I was like, so I looked at it, and I was like, have me and Robert Griffin III ever talked before? No. Okay. Was that an inside joke to something? No. And then we all came to a conclusion, obviously.

Bike. Somebody stole my bike. It's the Debo bike. That's what he's referring to with the Titans beating them last year whenever they were so hot. Then the Titans become this team out of nowhere, travel to Baltimore, get a win, get a lead on the Chiefs, and inevitably lose it. That's what Baltimore's trying to do this year.

It does feel like it's a complete role reversal in that game. Yeah, Ravens hot. I was probably the second hottest team in the AFC coming into it, man. Lamar's playing well down the stretch. Defense is playing well. Titans not so much. Outside of Derrick Henry, obviously, who cracked 2K. You know, big congrats to him.

That was a big accomplishment. But, yeah, I think they get that bike back going into the playoffs. I don't know if I necessarily like hearing it from a guy who won't be out there. No shot at RG3. But, you know, I like if you're going to talk to shit, I want you to be at least out there to back it up. That's not RG3's fault. Like my guy Chase Young out there in Chocolate City.

Hey, that's not RG3's fault. Listen. It's not his fault. Not his fault. But, you know, this is my thing. If you're going to put some bulletin board material out there, I got to be out there to back it up. That's just my opinion.

And that's why, by the way, once you become a kicker punter, you can no longer talk shit. OK, it's kind of frustrating. That's why Twitter became awesome, because some scrub would talk shit to me. And I'm like, oh, I don't get to do this in my job, but I can definitely talk shit to this fucking guy. So then I you know, so that was kind of fun for me. RG3 said, I know who is excited for the chance to get their bike back. That's Baltimore Ravens.

But I'll tell you what, they're trying to go get their bike from a guy that has rushed for 710 yards in the last four weeks set derrick henry has rushed for 710 yards in the last four weeks right that's yep he's on he's rolling right now that's the offensive line tannahill's taking shots that's going to be a great matchup between those two. Damn, Texas, man. Like, how do you – come on, man. These end-of-the-game situations with these defensive coordinators, I mean, come – Explain.

What do you mean? The dude's getting the ball back. You saw the Dolphins-Raiders game, the Ravens. I mean, it used to be back in the day, the team gets the ball back with 25 seconds left, you know, down, whatever. That was pretty much game over going into overtime. Now it's like 50-50. Like, let me turn the TV up and see who's going to mess it up this week.

So, for them to make that quarters call, get beat, and let A.J. Brown get behind you to set up for a go-ahead field goal, that was terrible. 15 seconds? What the heck, 15 seconds? Yeah, if that. I'm like, okay, this game's going into overtime. Come out. That's crazy, man. this game's going to overtime. Come out.

That's crazy, man. It's getting egregious at this point. A lot of stupid calls, huh? Terrible. Terrible. I mean, I don't know, man. I might have to throw my hat. You coaching?

You getting into coaching? I might have to get out of here, man. I hate watching the bad ball from the couch, man. Okay, so because you would like to potentially change what's going on out there because there's a lot of great football players potentially getting wasted by stupid play callers. Is that what you're saying? Yeah, there's some very, very bad play callers out there for damn sure.

Maybe in the front office. Yeah, I'll take front office. Yeah, you don't have to day-to-day. Yeah, front office, Jacksonville. Let me reach out out to some guys put a suit on you know urban urban knows me i don't know if we've ever met but i could put in a way do not i don't know about your relationship but i would not hire hire urban meyer i just wouldn't do it not the nfl okay hell no hey that was your that was big right there what you just said. Nine-year NFL vet, man who is very well respected amongst his peers,

host of the Man to Man podcast, Darius Butler says, do not hire Urban Meyer into the NFL. Is that real? Do not do it. I wouldn't do it if I'm making that shot. You know, he's left the last couple places that he's been a mess. He wins at college programs. When you're recruiting some guys, you can build programs and win, but

coming and dealing with professionals, I just don't know how that transition will work out with old Herb. He's doing a good job on TV, though. I would suggest he stays there. Yeah, because it's hard. Some other stuff.

There's some college coaches that, I mean, I've heard stories about some college coaches in previous stops in the NFL where they're like telling grown men, oh, you can't talk on the bus, can't talk at meal, can't talk during travel. And these grown men being like, why don't you put your little fucking headphones on, right? You won't even hear us. All right, pal.

Get your ass back up there. Ladies and gentlemen, host of the Man to Man pod, Darius Butler. Thank you, D-Bud. Thank you, D-Bud. We got a guy joining us. Ooh. There it is. There it is.

He's joining us. Okay. By the way, going to be an interesting pool to jump right into, by the way. Not a bad show we've had thus far. We've covered damn near everything, but a man who's definitely going to add to it, probably has some inside information, probably has a bigger brain than any of us and all of us combined. Ladies and gentlemen, probably not Ty, but ladies and gentlemen, Field Gates.

Yes! Not sure my brain is that big, but I appreciate the kind words as always. Well, you always come on this show and say smart things. So for that, I thank you, obviously. Field, a lot of job openings. Okay. We're getting our tips from people on who's going

where. You're getting your tips from people on who's going where. The internet has theories. What is a head coaching location and a guy you think or woman by the way who is locked in you think urban meyer to jacksonville is it dabble to uh the chargers because tom and him went to high school together who do you think is a basically virtual lock at this point field yeah i'm not totally sold that anybody is a virtual lock as of yet i think what you're

saying is both sensible like both those things make a lot of sense based off of the connections you laid out i think what ends up happening with the coaching search is that more frequently than not there's one domino that kickstarts the rest of the process and it allows the other pieces to fit in some ways it feels like jacksonville is the first domino this year, only because not only is it a head coach and a general manager vacancy, but there's a lure for this job that maybe it doesn't otherwise normally have. Number one pick in the draft. They have a ton of needs, obviously, on that roster.

But you have the potential to draft Trevor Lawrence. You've got tons of money in free agency. You've got extra draft capital going forward. Jacksonville feels like it could be kind of the first domino to fall. But because none of the dominoes have fallen yet, I'm not prepared to make any sort of virtual locks. I do like your two hypothetical matches there, both Urban Meyer in Jacksonville and also Brian Dayball in Los Angeles,

which I think there's a case to be made that the Chargers job is the most attractive right now, the six openings. Is that because of air bear and how incredible he looked and also the team that's around there, that D line is obviously stout. And they just came off four wins. And if you look back earlier in the year, if they handled situational football, they brought, they might have seven more wins. They might be like an 11 win 10

win team at this point excited to see who gets where let's go back to the jags with urban meyer because it's so intriguing how did his name come about because remember he was with washington what a year ago in a suite sitting next to alex smith and everybody's like oh here he goes duane askins is here how you doing keep it moving now it's coming out that urban meyer's thinking about asking for 12 million a year to coach in the NFL. And if he was to go to Jacksonville, do you think Justin Fields is drafted over Trevor Lawrence to Jacksonville because of the obvious Ohio State ties there? Yeah, I think I'll start with the second part of that question, Pat. I think that it's going to be Trevor Lawrence, no matter who is the head coach or the GM in Jacksonville.

And I feel like that's actually kind of a cold take, right? Like nothing about that is going out on that much of a limb. You've got so much momentum for Trevor Lawrence over three great years at Clemson, lost a total of two games in which he started for them. And it wasn't like they lost games that were totally out of nowhere, right? I mean, losing to Ohio State was surprising last Friday night. But as we know, Ohio State's a very, very good team. I think Trevor Lawrence is going to wind up as the Jaguars quarterback, no matter who they hire.

As far as why Urban's name is popping up right now. So first of all, he's entered, left, and re-entered the coaching market before, right? He has retired from coaching and then re-emerged at Ohio State. Health, health. And what we don't see, at least not frequently, guys who master the pro game and decide to then want to try the college game on for size, we do see this frequently. There's been some level of success for some guys and then others not so much. Seems like Matt Rule is on the right track in Carolina despite not a ton of wins this year.

Then we've seen the glaring failures at the pro level from the Bobby Petrino's to the Chip Kelly's to the Steve Spurrier's of the world. And Urban's got a ton of leverage right now. He kind of reminds me of John Gruden in this regard, that no matter what year it is, no matter what jobs are open, until Urban Meyer takes one of these jobs, he's going to be one of the most frequently speculated upon coaching candidates. And because of the most frequently speculated upon coaching candidates and because of the respect he has at the college level at the pro level as well he's not going to take some middling job if there are six jobs open like there are this year and you were to stack them and it was clear that you know one or two of them is at the bottom of the pile in terms of desirability

urban meyer's not going there he's going to take the crown jewel jobs. And if you believe enough in Trevor Lawrence and you believe enough in, frankly, yourself, then you think this Jacksonville job is pretty enticing. You have the first pick. You're in a division that's got really, really good quarterbacks right now, but you don't have Patrick Mahomes, which is probably the biggest, I would say, wart on the Los Angeles Chargers gig is the idea that you're going to have to compete with Patrick Mahomes

probably the next 12 to 15 seasons. Yeah, you got Derrick Henry, obviously, for the next couple years. And Deshaun Watson always showcases his incredible ability. And thank or hope to God, not Carson Wentz. And instead, Matty Stafford in Indianapolis. But if Urban was to go to Jacksonville, I'd be intrigued to see how that plays out. Because the way Urban coaches, from what I've been told, I don't know how well that would translate into

the NFL, a la the previous college coaches who have had failures. But if he's a good coach, he can coach anybody. Now, I do have to correct you on one point. John Gruden and Urban Meyer, their names were always up for coaching jobs, you know? You know who the original was? Bill Carr. Bill Carr.

That's right. Yeah. He was loyal to who the original was? Bill Carr. Bill Carr. That's right. Yeah, but he was loyal to Pittsburgh forever, right? Bill Carr. Yeah, he was going to be the coach of the Panthers at one point. He was going to be the coach of the Bills at one point. He was on like 10 different jobs at one point. And his name was just floating out for the Jets here recently. Old Bill Carr, good for him.

Field, who and where is Josh McDaniels going? Is he going to be a head coach who are some people you think whose names have not been talked about because this year it's obviously dabble obviously urban's name is up there now the enemy's name is hot in the streets dan campbell is out there there's a lot of names out there is josh mcdaniel's on the block is he going somewhere you think he remains in New England and they figure out how to win football games again next year and rebuild an entire place

yeah I'd be surprised if he's a head coach this year and we actually had this conversation on your show before not about McDaniels but about a different guy who I never understood how Matt Eberflus two years ago was the top candidate for head coaching jobs. And then last year, during a year where, as you know incredibly well, it wasn't Eberflus' woes that held the Colts back. It was that they dealt with the surprise retirement of Andrew Luck three weeks before the season, and they had a quarterback issue in 2019. Eberflus falls off the radar last year. Now he's back on it this year. And I'm thinking to myself, like the guy was a good coach two years ago. He was a good coach a year ago. He's still a

great coach now, which by the way, I think he'd be a really, really smart hire for somebody. I'm sure Colts fans don't want to hear that. Anybody but Carson Wentz to hear. Stop that. Yeah. Yeah. I hear you. And I think there's some thoughts there about stafford and wentz in a moment but um so i think josh mcdaniel has not changed dramatically as a head coach i think that we on the outside put a disproportionate amount of uh weight each year on things like top scoring offense top scoring defense hot play callers which it's interesting only because we have seen this now for decades. The NFL is constantly turning over jobs. Rarely, not rarely, but it is certainly not that uncommon where a guy is the hot head coach candidate and a year or two or three years later, he's fired.

So I think if you believe in a guy, one year, one down year shouldn't dissuade you from being interested in that person a year later or two years later, a la Ibra Floos, a la Josh McDaniels. Michael Lombardi, former GM, says that you don't get hired, you get like elected almost. Because there's always like, you know, campaigns it feels like on the internet. And then you got these third party councils are making decisions for billionaires because billionaires don't know enough about their own product to make decisions for themselves it feels like there's always those interesting things let's move to the carson wentz conversation now yesterday i think it was you guys that reported and by you guys i mean the espn insider crew which by the way great work this season we appreciate all that you've done that's jeff

dean mort right there carrying the carrying the heavyweights this season as they always do. All right, good team guy there. Good team guy there. But anyways, the relationship with Carson and Doug Peterson is fractured beyond repair, allegedly. He's going to ask for a trade.

Then Tannenbaum, peer of yours at ESPN, says Carson Wentz might be willing to negotiate $20 million so that he can get traded. Is his hate for the Eagles worth $20 million a year from Carson Wentz? Is that real? What's going on over there? I think what Mike was suggesting is that Carson Wentz could essentially have a trade in place with a different team. could essentially have a trade in place with a different team. Prior to that trade being executed, he would agree to reduce his salary or pay back $20 million that he has been previously paid from the Eagles, which from their standpoint makes the trade much more palatable on the salary cap.

But part of the trade would also include that whoever it is that's acquiring Carson Wentz would immediately sign him or give him a $20 million signing bonus. So I don't believe that Carson's really coughing up any money here. It just makes the trade a lot more executable, if that's a word, for the Eagles. Because as we know right now, it's one thing to want to trade him. It's another thing to want to trade him and have a massive, historically large dead cap hit on their salary cap if they do so. I think it's an interesting conversation. Carson Wentz last December, as in 2019, was unbelievable. I mean, he was the guy that kept Philly afloat when they had injuries all

over the roster. A year later, he, despite not playing the final four games this year, still was tied for the NFL lead in interceptions, led the NFL in turnovers, took the most sacks in the NFL with 50. He was a broken player this year. But GMs and coaches, by nature, I think are sort of appropriately confident confident maybe not arrogant but a confident that they can believe like a gm or a coach is acquiring carson wentz is going to basically rewind past 2020 and look all the way back to 2019 and say i can make this guy what he was again last year why two years ago i should say now why i can make him that player going forward are those the gs that get fired?

Or are those like the good GMs that say that? Yeah, there's a reason Why there's so much turnover I was thinking about this though Because I know part of the reason why You don't want them to pursue Carson Wentz I'm assuming your preference A Would be Phillip Rivers to return for another year

I'm cool with Phil coming back And then door B would be Matthew Stafford return for another year. I'm cool with Phil coming back. Yeah, I like Phil. And then door B would be Matthew Stafford. Bingo. Give me Matthew Stafford. I don't think his contract is anything what Carson Wentz is demanding. He hasn't really had a team. We got a team.

We're right down the road. I mean, come on. You still got family or friends in Michigan. It's right there. Let's go. Yeah, I mean, I haven't heard, and I apologize if you discussed it already earlier, about what you thought about how the Eagles handled last night.

But the player that I was thinking about last night, when the Eagles are trotting out Nate Sudfeld for an evaluation, which is funny in and of itself, beyond the fact that he's their third-string quarterback, I believe at the beginning of this year, he took a pay cut from them. Smart. They made him restructure his contract. So, like, how much did you evaluate? Like, didn't you already evaluate him?

Like, you decided you needed to have him reduce his money. Anyways, I digress. What do you think Matthew Stafford's thinking? Matthew Stafford's playing with, like, you know, his limbs are hanging on by a thread. And he's like, not a single person, not a single person would have held it against Matthew Stafford. If he was like, you know what, guys? He woke up on Sunday morning, week 17, was like, I'm good. I love you guys. I'm good.

Good luck, Chase Daniel. Instead, the dude played, and he played as he has all year, lights out. He didn't win, but I tend to think that if I'm a team this offseason looking for a quarterback that's not in the draft, not in free agency. I don't know how Matthew Stafford's not the top of the list. Bingo! Bingo! Hey, Field, listen.

You had cookies and milk every single day in high school. I did not. That big brain of yours is right on with mine. That makes me feel very, very smart. And the thing about Matty Stafford is, a lot what you just mentioned, it feels like he is a mentally tough dude. Like there's no picking up the pieces, right? Like Carson Wentz, you could be pissed off all you want that they drafted

in the second round, you just got paid, whatever. That's cool. Like Carson Wentz, I think he's a good quarterback. Are we just willing to bet what his salary is going to be that he's just not going to get broken again if something else happens? You know, it's like a very interesting. And Matty Stafford, his body's broken, and he'll go out there and sling that thing for 350.

Just get us Matty Stafford in Indianapolis. Let's go. We need another weapon. TY's going to be on the market. Michael Pittman Jr.'s getting hot. Jonathan Taylor's playing good football, but we're off and running. Buffalo Bills look to be incredibly hot. 6,700. Oh. Oh, no. It was a poor connection, not a call. good football but we're off and running uh buffalo bills look to be incredibly hot 6700 oh oh no oh

it's a poor connection not a call yeah so it's not like he's gonna break news yeah i thought maybe that would have been maybe he just found out where stafford's going what if stafford's people were like uh keep pushing that yeah keep pushing that field another team i kind of just popped in my head we lost him we hope he's all right by the. We hope he's all right, by the way. Hope he's all right. What about Sam Fran for Stafford? Oh, that'd be too good. Obviously, you want him here, but.

Imagine Stafford and the Saints. Oh, jeez. Can they afford it with their negative $50 million cap? Well, Drew Brees is going to be good. Let's go to the right field. I'm back. I hate the internet. I love it.

It's where we work. I understand that tech can be a little bit of an issue, but we're happy you're back. Drew Brees his last year he's done after this he's going to nbc who takes over tasem hill be the only one he's maddie stafford going down to the saints was sean payton getting to that world yeah i just heard the very astute note about how the saints are like 50 million dollars in the red in terms of salary cap space next year um i think probably the saints are going to be, if not Taysom Hill, they're going to have to be sort of bargain hunters in the quarterback market

next offseason. And we saw last year that there were bargains to be had. Now, it's not that Jameis Winston played a lot. It's not that Andy Dalton was incredible. It's not like Cam Newton had an all-pro season. But those were three guys that were starters the year before who each signed for very modest money. And I know the Saints are always going to be willing to sort of kick the can further down the road on the salary cap. They are not concerned about being cap flush this year or next year or the next year. They've got a really good roster as well, so you kind of understand it. But if you just look at the amount of money they'd have to account for

on their salary cap for Drew Brees to not play next year, it seems like their best course of action to create competition at quarterback is probably just to take a flyer on someone, maybe a repeat with Jameis Winston. I don't know what his market's going to be this offseason, but I can't imagine if he couldn't find a job last year, he's not going to find a multi-year deal that's worth top starter money this offseason. That thing was flying. Oh, yeah.

He's dodging it. Connor, what do you got? Vanderfield, now that the Jets have fired Adam Gase, is Sam Darnold going to go back as quarterback, or is he also going to be on the market? Yeah, I think Sam – actually, I really believe this because it's been a very popular topic of conversation for the past few weeks here. Is that now the season's over, fans and us and the media are already like making the decision about what we would do. I believe the Jets haven't made a decision about what their future is with Sam Darnold.

I think that it's going to be dependent upon a few things. Who they hire as head coach and what the draft evaluation looks like for the next quarterback besides Trevor Lawrence. Whether that's Justin Fields, whether that's Zach Wilson. If they're enamored by one of those players. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Is Zach Wilson potentially higher than Justin Fields in some people? Oh, I think so for sure. I mean, and part of that was because up until Friday night,

Justin Fields had not – Hey, there's a long time away from April 29th, but I think some people felt prior to Friday night that Justin Fields had consistently been below standard in big games, right? He hadn't been his normal self in the biggest games of Ohio State's seasons, whether it was Indiana, Northwestern this year. You go back to the Clemson game in the semifinal last year. Well, he showed everybody that he's got some big game mentality to him

this past Friday night. So I think Zach Wilson's going to find his way into the conversation. It may not get where he ends up, but the conversation. The thing about Zach is he had his best game against Coastal Carolina there on Saturday night. Everybody was watching. He didn't, though. He lost.

I know. That was a – but I will say this. By the way, I'm a Zach Wilson fan. I would like that to be known. And it was – and you're right. It wasn't his best game, but it wasn't like – A full drop-off. Exactly. I don't feel like it like a full drop off. Exactly.

I don't feel like it was a total abomination, right? It was, you could also add some circumstances. They put the game plan together like 24 hours before the game began. Yeah. Flying out the night before, like there were mitigating factors could talk themselves into Zach Wilson, not being great that day. Hey, he is incredibly athletic, has good personality.

It seems like he's going to be able to learn things. Butin fields if you talk to all the quarterback people they say he's the guy gumpy what do you got yeah field if justin fields had the game that trevor lawrence had where do you think people would have trevor law or at justin fields out today yeah i i really i think that as a matter of fact you know you know he's he's much more informed than i am on this but todd mcshay had a recent uh mock draft i believe the first one and uh he had him at ninth ninth overall and it might have been so you know there are people that was before the clemson game so this is not i don't think it's a if he had played like trevor lawrence played then i think he would have been talked about as like you know a borderline top 10 pick I think because of the way he played, that at least until this next Monday when they play

Alabama, the conversation is going to once again be, can this guy be the number two pick in the draft? Is it because he's vegan? It's because he's vegan. It's because he's vegan. What do you got, Tex? Field. I got a question. So the NFL goes... Hey, by the way, Field, this guy beat COVID. Yeah!

Yeah! Thank you. It's actually a COVID question. It this guy beat COVID. Yeah. Yeah. Congratulations. Thank you. It's actually a COVID question. It's in my brain. Well, legit. Hopefully not. It actually is. The NFL, you know, they went the entire year, got every weekend.

And then, like, what was it, this week or last week? They decided now that if you get COVID, you're out for 10 days. When did that change, and why did that change? Yeah, the protocol has been updated all the time in the NFL. There was a time during the season where you could be on the COVID list for one day as a close contact. If I'm not mistaken, Chiefs defensive tackle Chris Jones is a really, really good player, obviously. Got placed on the list on like a Wednesday and was off by Thursday. And that has nothing to do with him. I'm just using the example of how the protocol has changed. Now when you go on the COVID list, the minimum number of days

you're on there is five days. So I think the NFL is, as probably everybody is, we're learning more about COVID every day. We're finding better ways to contain it. and the NFL has made it very clear from the get-go we're going to update our protocols as much as we need to no matter what anybody thinks like it's just how it's going to be if that's what it takes for us to get through this safely that's what it takes are we I mean a lot of questions in the room whenever you said we're learning new stuff every day I think that's accurate but are we actually maintaining our learning do you know what i mean because it feels like everything changes every other week and tovin 19's got this twin brother we didn't fucking know about it's coming around everywhere but i think i think why they're doing the 10-day minimum thing this is like um it's like

if you go to a country that if you spit, you get like your hand cut off. It's basically like, hey, this is a harsh punishment. We need you all to lock it. This is like a bubble without actually being a bubble. This is like, hey, you got 10 days if you fuck up at all. Everybody needs to just go right to their bedrooms. Don't even look at your kids until the Super Bowl is over. I think it's more of a fear thing so they can continue to lock it down.

But I think it's been an incredible job by the players, the NFL, getting to this point. And Super Wild Card Weekend is about to be awesome. It has been incredible. It's been incredible. You guys have a full thing going on in ESPN, don't you? Yeah, we're going to have, like, seven different broadcasts, ESPN, ESPN2, ABC, the app.

We've got Freeform. We've got Nickelodeon. You involved in any of those? Yes. That Nickelodeon one, dude. It's going to be crazy. SpongeBob's going to be out there. Googly eyes.

Come on. Yeah. Which one are you on, Field? I was, you know, the honorable mention, like just missed the cut. There's 45 different broadcasts. How did you not get into any of those, Field? Yeah, you know, every once in a while you've got to take a little status check of where you stand on the totem pole.

Hey, listen. Apparently I figured out where I stand. Field, this is what's going to happen. We'll FaceTime you on Saturday. Ooh, yeah. Okay, we'll record it. We'll put it out. Somebody will see you watching these games, Field, because that's what they've got going on over there. I love it. We appreciate you, man. You, we'll record it. We'll put it out. Somebody will see you watching these games, Field,

because that's what they got going on over there. I love it. We appreciate you, man. You're very, very intelligent. We appreciate your insight. You guys are the best. Ladies and gentlemen, Field Yates. Thank you.

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also there's fantasy on there daily fantasy and free to play games where you can win money shout out to vandal shout to you let's get back to the show there's firings happening there's positions open there's interviews taking place and there's a massive super wild card weekend coming up with three games on saturday and three games on sunday our first hour callers uh not bad not great hoping that the callers this hour are much better 1-888-MADDOG6. Cannot wait to chat with you. Also, we'll go through hashtag Pat. I don't want to overreact, but from all around the Twitter, we got up to the number four trending topic in the United States at one point. Thank you all so much for being a part of that.

The fact that you guys watch, listen, whatever you do to this show, we are eternally grateful because we're just a small little regional operation trying to make it in this big world with a bunch of sharks. That's right. Atone Diggs, fresh out of his COVID cave. Congrats on surviving. How are you feeling? And in the first hour, we talked about the Steelers.

Was there any doubt that was dropped into your mind about this weekend's game against the Browns when Darius Butler said that he thought resting the boys was a bad decision? Darius Butler played for nine years. He played in a lot of playoff games. He believes that resting the players after them just figuring out how to play football again against Colts in the second half of the Pittsburgh Steelers was a bad idea.

How do you feel about that? I feel good. Thank you. In regards to this weekend's game. Oh, you're talking about COVID. Yeah. Okay. Well, you started off.

Yeah, yeah. You had to address both. And, by the way, thank you for doing that because there's a lot of people listening who might not know anybody that had COVID. And you're the first person that I've really encountered. I'm the face of COVID. You are the face of COVID. By the way, in my life. The face of COVID survivor.

You are the face of COVID surviving. You are the immune-icorn that I think of. Thank you. That's it. Hold on, Tony. Did you lose any weight? Was there any positives? I got none of the positives.

Was there any? Does COVID not have none of the positives. Was there any? Does COVID not have any of the positives? Like mono, for instance. You're tired for a month, but you lose 40 to 50 pounds. It's terrible. It's not good. Flu, going to come out of the attic and the cellar, but you're going to lose 10 to 15 pounds.

COVID sounds like you were just tired and miserable, headache all the time, and no pounds lost. No pounds lost. That's fucking rude. I didn't lose taste or smell, so I didn't have like the loss of appetite thing or whatever. Oh, so you probably gained weight. No, I stayed the exact same.

I'm at my peak right now. Oh, your body's peak. Yeah, where I cannot physically gain any more weight. Got it. Which is not, I'm not in a good spot. Today, I thought I was going to wake up this morning and New Year knew me. Oh, yeah.

New Year, same Pat in the morning, I learned. Oh, geez. A couple snooze buttons. Well, up this morning and New Year knew me. Oh, yeah. New Year, same Pat in the morning, I learned. Oh, jeez. A couple snooze buttons. Well, you forgot it was New Year knew me. No, no, I knew it. Going to bed last night. I even labeled the alarm like New Year knew me. Nice.

Did you change the sound? Yeah. New sound, new song. Ooh. Yeah. There's a little bit more upbeat song. I mean, there was a lot of opportunity and potential for me to change the way I live my life and change my lifestyle today because it is 2021.

And maybe this is the trip around the sun that I'll be my most healthy. And I put out a tweet yesterday. It said, our diets all start tomorrow, right? So, and everybody agreed. Yeah, they do. And this morning I woke up, I'm going to be honest, not strong enough.

I don't think 2021 is the year that I'm going to be able to do this. Maybe 2022. Monday's hard. It's so daggum dark in the morning. You get up and it's just like, ah, fuck it, I'm going to go back to bed. My wife got me two new pillows for Christmas,

and they're the right pillows. I mean, it is pillows that my head liked. We got fresh. I mean, how am I supposed to wake up, golf nine holes, pray, read the Bible, fucking meditate and do everything that Mark Wahlberg and The Rock do. How am I supposed to do it? They must not have the pillows that I'm sure they can afford.

The pillows that I have, why don't they do it? What happens? Why can't I just be that person in the morning that's up there meditating, woo-ha-ing the shit out of my life? That's what this whole New Year, New Me thing is supposed to be about. I just can't do it. It'd be rude if you didn't use those pillows, though. You know, if you got out of bed and just decided to get right out.

I mean, honestly, you're slapping your wife's face. And we're in the honeymoon phase. Exactly. What if I started waking up earlier with her new pillows? Oh, you don't like my pillows? Oh, yeah. I can't fucking sleep. How about that?

Oh, you don't like them? Is that what I'm saying to her right there? You're right. A lot of excuses, though, by the way. This is kind of what everybody does. This is what I do a lot. No. Yeah. This is real. No, no, no. by the way, this is kind of what everybody does. This is what I do a lot. No. Yeah No, they're by the way excuses are real things. They're just reasons for why you didn't get something done really good reason

Okay, so that's exactly what they are So, you know excuses have kind of been painted in a negative light for a long time Shouldn't be right because it's just reasons why something hasn't happened But all these reasons are things that I think about every single day. They're legitimate. But they just continue to win. And if you want to be like Mark Wahlberg in that fucking magazine or The Rock in those interviews, you got to start getting up at 4, meditate, pray, golf, workout, what?

Business meeting? That's what you got to do before 6 a.m. I just don't think I can do it. Well, Wahlberg, The Rock, Cam Newton, all these people that get up very early, they all have those windows installed that when your alarm goes off, the fake sun comes through. Oh. So it's like it's later in the day, and it's easier to get up at those times.

Your room is a fortress for sunlight, too. You need that to get up. By the way, always have been. My life, my entire life, had a very small room that the house grew up in, just the way it was. That thing, I put a comforter over the window. I would put things underneath the thing. It would be pitch black.

I would be completely okay if my windows in my house were never open. My wife, very different. She wants the window, the sun in there. I would want blackout blinds every single window if possible. Just go ahead and bury me. I'll go live underground if I have to. And it is hard to wake up whenever there's no light out there. My wife does it. She's a morning.

She'll get up. She goes and gets coffee. She has a whole routine. She has a full thing and then comes back in. And I'm still laying there going through my phone and doing the whole thing. That's wild. It is wild. You should get her some pillows.

Good call. Her pillows probably aren't good enough. What time does she go to sleep? She goes to sleep like 8.30? Very early, yeah. She falls asleep early. Oh, okay. Yeah.

That's a little different. I mean, you were up watching the Washington football team dominate the Eagles. Doug Peterson shut down all of New York. Uh-oh. The metro area. I don't know where Giants fans live. I think they're in New Jersey, if I'm not mistaken.

I think it's a New Jersey team and a Long Island team, I believe. Oh, my God. I know. No. We have a Giants fan in the office and he's kind of griping

back there right now over for the... Where are Giants fans from? Well, the face started when you first said New Jersey. Well, that's where... Right? That's where they play.

That's where they happen to play. Okay. But that's where a lot of Giants fans are too, right? I think Jersey is Giants. Northern Jersey. In the shadows of New York City. WrestleMania.

That's right. WrestleMania in the shadows of New York City. That was a great marketing campaign. Northern Jersey Giants fans. Once you go south, it's all Philly. Okay, so then Jets fans, those are more in the city, aren't they? Jets fans are more like Queens, Long Island. Okay. Stooges. And where more like Queens, Long Island. Okay.

Stooges. And where are you from? Long Island. And you're a Giants fan? I grew up in the city. I'm a Giants fan. Oh, well, that's weird, though. Because in the shadows of New York City, where they play.

That's where. In the shadows. That's where. Anyways, Giants fans, to get off of the geography issue, Giants fans were not happy last night. Okay, Giants players also not happy. Although I think a lot of things were in jest. But that Doug Peterson pulling Jalen Hurts thing

will be talked about for a day or two. And then everybody will just move on. In the combine, whenever Doug Peterson's getting interviewed during the combine, it'll come up about is Jalen Hurts. And then all of a sudden a conversation that we'll have probably, you can probably clip this right now and put it at the time. Remember when at the end of a game against the new york giants he said he wanted to get meaningful reps for nate sudfeld does that mean that he doesn't believe in jaylen hurts is the future is doug

peterson looking at a quarterback here during the combat that'll be the entire conversation and then it will move on again it'll be talked about until we figure out what's going to go on with the eagles which i think is a complete rebuild i think they're re-changing that entire team out how are you going to trade our trade carson wentz nobody has a clue i just hope he doesn't come to the colts but i would assume that whole team's going to be brand new gumpy you got something yeah if you put the cardinals rams is that sunday night or we're not even talking about this pat yeah i agree it's during the day nobody really cares except for people in philly and new york it would garner a little bit of a conversation,

but it wouldn't be the main talking point because it's Sunday Night Football. Last game of the NFL's 2020 regular season, the primetime game, with, by the way, Collinsworth and Michaels going, what the f— during the game. You know what I mean? There's a lot of eyes on it, and that decision was made, but it will be talked about until they figure it out. But it feels like the Eagles are doing a reboot.

It's not just Gi fans are mad uh espn sao paul antonio oh went on the dan patrick show and said that roger goodell and the nfl need to open an investigation on the eagles decision to pull jalen hurts so so would they pull audio how do you do an investigation on this yeah probably right there's no way that's recorded figure out what they're talking about should they launch an investigation of the bills for pulling Josh Allen? Well, I guess he would be un-mic'd up. Doug Peterson would have a mic on.

Imagine if he's under his little score thing. This game's getting a bit too close, boys, huh? I mean, I think fourth and goal going for what play won't fucking work. What if he's on a mic underneath the thing with that? You know what I mean? And then what do you get Jalen the fuck out of? What's Zedfeld doing?

Zedfeld. I said I was going to play him earlier, right? Yep. That's what I said, right, boys? Yep. Well, fucking put that guy out there. How many completions does he have? None?

All right. What's he going to do? Oh, he's going to throw a pick first play and then he's going to fumble it too? That's exactly what we want. Put him fucking out there. No, you're in. Yeah.

Jalen, sit the fuck down. Change your mask too. That one doesn't match. He went from cheap mask to good mask there because he was going to be on the sideline there. And then Carson Wentz is sitting there on the sideline like, I fucking told everybody this guy's trying to lose. He was setting me up for failure, but I'm out $700 million. You're not going to be able to change that.

Four to one, jump off sides. Is that how they're going to invest? How is Sal Powell, who's been around a long time? Where did he say this at? On ESPN? No, it was on uh uh dan uh dan patrick show hey congrats dan patrick og by the way you know dan we're big dan patrick show fans around here uh whenever i used to go on that show i used to consider like

uh like a big morning like if i was ever asked going i'm like gets going on dp show here here we go he also helped us out a lot that's great sal palatoni i know never met the guy never talked to the guy he wants a full investigation he's philly isn Palantonio, though, never met the guy. Never talked to the guy. He wants a full investigation. He's Philly, isn't he? He's a Philly guy? Yeah. He bet, probably, I would assume. He probably wants Peterson out. Oh.

Got to assume clean house over there. Sal Palantonio is the Bezos of Philly. Yeah, basically. Bezos trying to get Snyder out. The Jimmy Bezos. Sal Pal's like, listen, I'm hiring all my investigative journalists and I'm hiring all my investigative journalists, and I'm sending them right into NFL Films over there in Philadelphia to hear. Because that's where NFL Films is, by the way, right there.

You can probably get all those clips. Full investigation. How the hell are they going to get rid of Carson Wentz? Is he going to give back $20 million? Some people are saying that. Who said that? Tannenbaum said that or something, right? Oh, he's a genius.

Tannenbaum. Whoa, take it easy. Tony. He's only ruined like three franchises. That guy splits the atom every day. All right. Okay, so it seems like the opinions of the boys here are not very high on old Tannenbaum. I don't know.

I don't know Tannenbaum that well. I have got a text message from him after I talked about him stating that if he was a Miami Dolphins GM, you could never draft Tua after allegedly hanging out with the Dolphins. I don't know, whatever. He seems like a nice guy to me, but you guys not happy at all with him. Well, he started spinning a narrative that if the Eagles and Wentz both wanted out of the situation, that Wentz would be willing to give up or basically write a $20 million check back to the Eagles

to help alleviate the cap concerns to get out of it. Who in their right mind is going to pay $20 million back to the team to get out? And this is what we were talking about with Matt Ryan. Matt Ryan's owed legitimately $90 million over the next three years guaranteed. And if the Atlanta Falcons were to move on and try to go a different direction, trading Matt Ryan might be a bit difficult. Not because Matt Ryan isn't worthy of starting in the NFL, which, by the way, I'm not having that conversation right now.

He is, obviously. He does good, but probably not a team that's going to win it all at this point. But who knows? Maybe in the right system. But the things that are coming with it, you see the baggage. You know what I mean? Like the baggage that's coming alongside. And the baggage isn't anything off the field, negative or distraction.

It's just a shit ton of your salary cap has to go to this person. So the rest of your team is kind of fucked. The same thing with Carson Wentz. His baggage that's coming alongside of him is a lot of money. A lot of people coming after me yesterday for saying, can we please stop the Carson Wentz to the Colts talk. A lot of people coming at Philadelphia Eagles fans, it's a perfect situation for both sides.

Shut the fuck up. Don't talk from my side, okay? It's a perfect situation for your side. You get Carson Wentz out of there and that contract out of there and no more drama and the colts are a good team so if you like carson wentz it's like oh he's going to a good team we're happy for him as well maybe that's a but for us do the coaches want to pick up that massive contract because he and frank reich had success in the years past i don't think now granted i'm not making these decisions for a reason chris ballard

has made a lot of great decisions who knows how this team's going to do, the Colts, by the way, because with that run game, if they can continue to run like that, they can beat anybody. That's kind of the way playoffs are. Buffalo Bills are a hot team. Excited to watch the game. But the Colts could go on run. Phil Rivers could go on run.

He's maybe the next Tony Romo, they're saying. Executives, old whites that have made a lot of great decisions on television in the past and currently making good decisions. They say Phil Rivers is potentially the next Tony Romo. and he's already a head coach at a high school in alabama hoover alabama or something like that so so the thought that phil rivers might move on is very real i think we all very much understand that and are okay with that i think colts fans though myself included are like if we're gonna pay a shit ton of money for somebody like elite level money for somebody

we might as well go and try to get you know maybe somebody that has proven in the last i don't know 13 14 15 months that they're an elite quarterback because i mean we're just banking on him being not broken anymore whenever he comes out to indianapolis i think this is what a lot of teams are thinking by the way whenever you hear oh there's several teams interested in trading for carson wentz is that from carson wentz's people that are also saying that his relationship with Doug Peterson is fractured beyond repair? Or is that actual teams and maybe low-level people that say, we'd be interested in it because that money, unless he was to give up that type of money, which I don't know why you would, okay? Just like Carson or just like Matt Ryan, I don't

know why he would change out of that $100 million contract. That's the only way I could see a team really wanting Carson Wentz. And aside from the Colts who have Frank Reich, I don't think there's any team that would even consider doing that with that deal. I might be completely wrong here, but I just don't see that whole thing working out like everybody's expecting it. Oh, they'll just trade Carson. He'll go start somewhere else. It's like, where?

I don't know if that's going to happen. No, especially for that money. I mean, if you're looking for a quarterback that last time he was good was 2018, you might as well just get Dewey Haskins. He's a lot cheaper. That's a good idea. True. If Carson's preacher, Frank Reich, tells him, hey, write that check,

20 mil, we'll come pick you up, then is there a thought? You got to pay tithes, dude. You got to pay tithes. You got to pay tithes. And also, last I checked, John Deere equipment has not gotten any cheaper. I mean, he's got a lot of new toys he wants to buy for his farm. So, I mean, combines, et cetera, et cetera. 12 gauges.

Those prices are only going up. You and old Carson's Instagram have quite a relationship. I mean, I've just never seen anything like it. I mean, the guy plays like shit on Sunday. You can bet your ass on Monday he's pitching some new Z-turn mower that him and his brother, you know, got on the farm, and they're loving it, and the pups love it. By the way, Philadelphia people added that in.

That's why Indiana would be great for him. It's like, that's not the quarterback I would like on my team. Ballard has been saving that cap space for years, waiting for the right fit, the right cultural fit in the locker room. Who? Ballard has been saving that cap space for years, waiting for the right fit, the right cultural fit in the locker room. Who? Ballard. Oh, I thought you said some other team has been doing that. No, no, no, no, no.

There's no reason. Let's get Matty Stafford in here. Go get Stafford. Get Matty Stafford in here, okay? And everybody, I got a lot of tweets earlier. Matty Stafford was surrounded by a lot more talent than Carson Wentz was ever surrounded by. It's like, okay, fucking relax. Maybe Matty Stafford made talent. You lot more talent than Carson Wentz was ever surrounded by. It's like, okay, fucking relax.

Maybe Matty Stafford made talent. You ever think about that because of how talented he was? I mean, you talk to any Lions fan. Now, Grant, they're stooges. But not all of them. Not all of them. Most of them. Not all of them.

The one we got. The one we got. The Lions fan that we got is a complete stooges. But if you listen to them, they're like, Matty Stafford deserves to go to a good team. It's kind of how Philly fans feel about Carson Wentz. But if you turn on the film, Maddie Stafford is slinging it.

He's not mentally broken like Carson seems to be right now. I promise you the Lions would have went 0-16 if Stafford wasn't the quarterback. That Lions defense let up more points this year than the 0-16 team did. Fucking go get Maddie Stafford. Bring him home. He doesn't know Frank. He doesn't know Frank.

He doesn't know Chris. Nope. He doesn't really know anybody. But man, if he could play the football league. I can't imagine him

with a run game and a defense. That's never happened in his 11 years or whatever. And by the way, that Colts defense, they're going to give

up some yards, okay? You're going to watch that Colts defense. You're going to see them give up some yards and you're not going to know why, but they are going

to make a big play. They are opportunistic bunch. Now, that's just like an NBA a big play. They are an opportunistic bunch. Now, that's just like an NBA team or a basketball team that only shoots threes. Whenever you live by the opportunity popping up or the opportunistic-style defense, every once in a while there's a chance that's not going to show up and you're in trouble.

Yeah, you're going to get run out of the building. But the Colts' defense has been, more often than not, very opportunistic at prime times. Now, granted, a couple collapses there against the Steelers and then Mike Lennon. Ooh. Jeez. What happens?

Mike Lennon. What happens? Yeah, the Sky Cam will get you. I mean, that's his last game he'll ever play in the NFL. Yeah, do not say that. You cannot kill Mike Lennon. That's what you think. You can't kill Mike Glennon.

I thought so, but Nathan Peterman didn't play a snap this year. Hey, by the way, Nathan Peterman, I will say, it seemed like he was trying to kill his career faster than Glennon was. Glennon, I met him whenever I was calling a Thursday night game down at NC State. He was drinking a beer. Super good guy, by the way. So I want to make sure that is understood. Whenever we talk about people, we're not talking about them as humans.

Unless we specifically say scumbag. We're talking about strictly football play. And the Colts almost lost to fucking Mike Lennon yesterday in the second half. That can't happen. No. That can't happen. Alright, boys, we gotta tighten it up. We gotta tighten it up. Joe Dirt.

What was his name? Wagner. Wagner. Ragnar. What's his name? Might as well be. Joe Dirt for me. Bro, this dude is a baller.

Okay. I've only seen him play two times, and it's against Colts first game and against Colts last game. This guy is a fucking pro. This might be the next Troy Paul Mullins. Andrew Wingard. Who? Andrew Wingard.

Andrew Wingard. Andrew Wingard. There it is. This guy is a force on the defensive side. Yeah. I've never heard anybody else talk about him. Joe Dirt put us to sleep in the first game, okay? Lost me a lot of money. Yeah.

That was my first Super Boost of the year, by the way. Kind of set us on a path of kind of potential hit or miss. This guy put Phillip Rivers to sleep week one when we all thought they were tanking. Now, they did earn the number one overall pick and successfully tanked. But they started with a fucking off-speed pitch with the win against the Colts, and it was because of this guy. And in the last game, this guy's all over the place.

I don't know who's going to be the head coach, whether it's Urban Meyer or whatever they got going on down there in Duval. Pay this guy $200 million. Put him at QB. Hey, put Ragnar at QB. Jags did hell of a job flying under the radar this season because the Jets took all the credit for the worst team in the league.

Oh, yeah. I mean, I think the Jags are probably much worse. And by the way, and then the compliment is how good Trevor Lawrence looked in their uniform. So, like, they sucked all year. Nobody talked about it because they beat the Colts early. They're not tanking. They beat the Colts. And They're not tanking. They beat the Colts.

And then they immediately go into the suck. And then they stay under the radar. And then the next thing that pops out is the Jets are stupid. The Jags are smarter than they are. And look how good Trevor looks in a Jaguars jersey. I mean, it was incredible work by Sean Conn. And whenever there was rumors of Urban Meyer becoming a head coach, Doug Brown, who's from the Bronx, so he's got some callous.

You know, he's been around. Don't be fooled by the teams that he coached. He's still Doug from the Bronx. Remix him and J-Lo from the Bronx. He's a tough guy or whatever. But he asked Sean Conney, he said, hey, there's rumors out there that you're going to hire Urban Meyer. And Sean Conney goes, news to me.

I don't know about that. Jaguars are awesome. There's no way they hire Urban, right? Probably, huh? I think so. I'd listen to Darius. And if they got Ragnar running around and Trevor Lawrence, who has had one game where you think probably not the guy.

You're going to shave the stash. What are you saying? Is somebody saying more than one game? Is that you, Gumpy? He loves fields. Well, by the way, he's not the stash. What are you saying? Is somebody saying more than one game? Is that you, Gumpy? He loves fields. Well, by the way, he's not the only one. All the quarterback people that I remember last year, whenever I was traveling around calling games,

you meet a lot of college coaches, whether it's like elite 11 coaches or scouts or anything like that, and you talk to them about it. And it was probably four or five games last year where I said, listen, when you talk to the people that and it was probably four or five games last year where i said listen when you talk to the people that say they know quarterbacks that dude in ohio state is the guy or whatever and then you saw him in a big 10 game not great he didn't have any of his weapons i guess but not great and then you watch him in the fucking uh fiesta ball sugar bar whichever he was unbelievable he was absolutely unbelievable i'll be intrigued to see how those two pan out

because if you look at air bear right now, okay, he's balling. Joe Burrow, he's got Zach Taylor back for another year. There's an overreaction tweet that is, we'll save it, Foxy. We'll save it for whenever we get in there. It's from a Cincinnati fan, and it is. It is tough there. But maybe Justin Fields and Trevor are the two next guys to go here. Maybe they go-go.

You know what I mean? And maybe, what if Justin Fields, because Urban Meyer's tied to Ohio State, goes to Jacksonville down there if Urban Meyer takes over? Hey, and if Urban gets hired in Jacksonville, it's only an hour away from Gainesville. You automatically fill seats if you're shotgun with all the Gator fans that love Urban Meyer.

Do they? Yeah. I know Ohio State fans love him. I mean, he won national championships there. I assume they love him. I think they do. What year is it to him? Yeah, but he only reps Ohio State. He doesn't rep Florida ever. You him. I mean, he won national championships there. I assume they love him. I think they do. What year is it to him? Yeah, but he only reps Ohio State.

He doesn't rep Florida ever. You know what I mean? He's still on the sideline with a whistle at Ohio State games. I don't know if he's. Joining us is a college football national champion and a Super Bowl champion and one of the greatest jawlines in the history of human existence, ladies and gentlemen, A.J. Hall. Hey, boy, AJ.

What's happening, guys? How'd it go with Field Yates? Field Yates, pretty good. He told us a lot without really telling us anything official, but I feel like anytime you're talking to some of those insiders or part of those group text messages, they have a couple leads on some things, but they can't come out and say them, which is why

I can never be an insider, because as soon as something gets in here, that's some bitches coming out. So I feel like whenever you're talking to an insider, you kind of got to bounce through what they're saying to figure out why they're saying what they're saying and who's coming from where, you know? Yeah, I guess. And it's not like if you're Field Yates, he's not, ESPN would be pretty upset with him if he broke news on your show.

Oh, yes. They would be furious. Just like the NFL Network. Every time Rapid Porter or Pellicero come on, we try to, you know, bait peer pressure news on your show oh yes they would be furious just like the NFL network every time rapid border palisaro come on we try to you know bait peer pressure them into breaking news on here they know that it'd be worse than selling a manscaped ad on their ig story if they were to break news on some other platform which we respect and appreciate the fact they come on but he talked about urban meyer in jacksonville and you're a guy that's been on urban's boat before if urban

was to go to Jacksonville Jaguars with your relationship with him how do you think that whole thing will go because there is a pattern of successful college coaches absolutely coaching like shit in the NFL because the communication factor with a different level of human different age of human different generation of human doesn't translate as well do you think Urban will Well, first off, I don't think Urban owns a boat. I have not been on a boat with Urban. I thought I saw you in that. I saw you in that.

You're in the mirror in the background. Oh, you're right. I forgot about that. That was a good time. We had a really good time. I heard it. I slimmed down a little bit now. Ooh, some bubbles.

What? He's been on a cruise. There you are right there. AJ, here's your left shoulder. Yep. That's me. You got me, guys. So because I was there, am I an urban insider?

Like, I have information. Well, and you do shows with him. You golf with him. You hang out with him. You guys are on cruises together. I know nothing about the guy other than the fact he called me out one time in a small thing. We got into a rift. We got over it. We're past it. Great college coach. Has some interesting things in his past. Great on television. Super successful. Will he be able to

make the jump to the NFL? And if you're the Jacksonville Jaguars, are you hiring him with your information, AJ? It seems like Chad Khan, the owner, wants to hire Urban News to me What'd you say? Doug Marone was asked about the Urban Meyer thing And he said, yeah, as soon as I heard about it I called up Shad Khan And Shad Khan told me that was news to me Fucking Shad Shad Khan has to say that

Think about all the rumors out there though, Pat Sitting on his yacht He's fucking sitting on his yacht he's fucking sitting on his yacht dog oh fuck dog do we lose yeah it's urban news to me dog you think about that with shot it was awesome but you think urban would do well or no i do i think uh if it's something he's all in on like if like when he was going to tv i said well if urban really wants to do it if he's all in he will be good. And I think that was the case when it comes to that Fox show.

I think Urban was all in. He enjoyed it. And if he – you know, coach is coach, man. And the guy is – he's only like 54 years old, something like that. If his health is fine and it's a perfect situation, I think he would go and I think he'd be all right. Okay. Okay.

So he's allegedly already piecing together a general manager that he would want, Scott Pio. But, Pat, the first – like none of this stuff has come from anyone in Jacksonville because with the Rooney rule and everything, they can't just hand Urban the job. They have to interview other people. I didn't even think about that, by the way. You're 100% right. They have to go through the proper process.

And there wouldn't be tampering, right, because Urban's not affiliated with any teams. But it's been very interesting, I guess guess since teams are interviewing via zoom now like guys are interviewing right now while they're already in it normally there's like a there was used to be a time that there was now guys are just interviewing like a facetime in the morning oh i like that guy he was good on the zoom you see his backdrop he had a great wonderful he had a dry race board with a lot of stuff on he's gonna work his ass off i wonder how these are big decisions to be made i assume they're going to get him in the building at some point but a lot of these hirings are probably happening before people have even met face to face i assume which is pretty wild to me it's a different time isn't it yeah it would be

weird especially a lot of those interviews can go five six seven hours long so i doubt they're that long on zoom but man it would it would I wouldn't want to be the person that's interviewing all these candidates. AJ, last night you watched what Doug Peterson did to football. Ugh. You watched him pick up the shield of the NFL in his left hand, okay, and in his right hand he kept it open, and then he did the rock, spit on it, slapped the shield right in the mouth last night with his decision to put Nate Sudfeld,

who that poor guy, Field Yates, told us he had to renegotiate his deal going into this year to take less money, and then now he's laughing stock of the NFL. He's the face of tanking. If you want to lose a game, you put Nate Sudfeld in there. How do you feel about Doug Peterson today and what he did in despicable fashion on primetime television last night, AJ?

Well, I want to know, who was he in cahoots with that made him do this? Did the owner call it down? Is there somebody outside of the building? What happened? Nobody knows. It doesn't seem to make any sense. Well, he came out, obviously. So I was obviously saying that in jest for the people on the internet

who were just hearing me talk about this for the first time. We all agree that if that game wasn't the last game of the season on primetime television, that this is talked about, but no way in a big way as it is right now. Doug Peterson came out afterwards, though, and had to answer for whether he was trying to lose the game or not. And he said, well, why would I keep Darius Slay and Kelsey and all them out there?

It's a very intriguing situation. The locker room, I think it's going to be a big turnover. Diggs' eyes just lit up. We potentially have some breaking news. Well, it's news that will make Gumpy very happy. Dolphins will part ways with offense coordinator Jan Gailey. Well, Gumpy was calling for this guy's head. They listened to the show.

You just put a guy out to the pasture. He was already out. Chan Gailey's 70 years old. He threw away his playbooks when they brought him out. Oh, that's a Dolphins fan. Back to the old folks home, pal. Okay, all right. Took him out back.

Chan Gailey, you did not deserve that from a Miami Dolphins fan from Canada there in Gumby, but he did think that Chan Gailey was potentially a problem for Tua's growth and for the offense down there in Gumpy, but he did think that Changeli was potentially a problem for Tua's growth and for the offense down there in Miami. I believe all Dolphins fans agree that they're ahead of schedule, but now they've got a real decision to make with that Houston Texans number three overall pick. Do they go with Tua? Did they learn enough about Tua? Changeli's out, now it's a new offense going in there. What are they going to do? Big breaking news, and Gumpy

was kind of forcing this upon the Dolphins organization just about an hour and a half ago, telling Chan Gailey, get the fuck out of town. Smart, smart move. Great move. We'll see. Okay, Gump, here's my question for Gump, though. Who do you want them to bring in as their new offensive coordinator?

He has an answer. I mentioned it earlier, AJ. A young college OC who will be on the field with Tua. Tua needs help down there. He can't have Fitzy with him for the rest of his life. And that's because Chan's up in the booth. Having a snooze. He's passed out half the game.

I mean, I know he's a head coach, but why not bring in Lane? If Lane has any interest in coming back to the NFL, reunite those two. Draft Devontae Smith. Just rebuild Tua's Bama team. Lane Kiffin, by the way, saving tweets. Okay, saving tweets for weeks to respond after. I love the pettiness where Lane's at. He came on the show, gave us an incredible interview.

I'd wonder, I think he just re-upped. Yeah, he did. Another couple-year extension where he just signed because his name was up for, like, the Auburn job and other jobs. Ole Miss was like, well, we'll re-extend you, give you another signing bonus so at least we can keep you around for another year but uh there's there has to be now are you going with tula are you moving forward with tula to a kind of stinks well see a lot of people think to a kind of stinks fields is there right aj people think to us stinks by the way i don't think he stinks i don't think we know what he's going to be yet. Now, he doesn't look like Herbert, obviously.

I think that's people's expectations of what a rookie quarterback should look like are much different now than they used to be because we've had all these rookies have so much success early on in their career. But, yeah, I don't know. I can't figure two out. I don't know. I'm not saying he stinks. I'm not saying he's going to be the next franchise guy,

going to be a top-tier QB, but I just don't know. I need to see him more. Well, I agree agree but you might not get the opportunity to do that because if they move on that'd be wild by the way oh yeah you have to give him a chance with weapons you have to you saw what he did against the cardinals when they had preston williams devontae parker yeah but he put up numbers whenever needed a play, they bring in the magic. He's a worry. I was in the lab for a couple hours last night watching tape. All 22?

He's not using his legs to throw with power. Here we go. Fucking Ron Jaworski. Shane Gailey telling him to do that? Fucking Ron Jaworski's back. So his hips still fucked up. That's why all those balls are sailing high, because he's not driving with his legs.

You get him one more offseason with Trent Dilfer. Those balls are getting thrown out of the stadium. Down there at Lipscomb Academy. Cure COVID, he can cure too. Who? Trent Dilfer. Yeah, they had that anti-COVID spray. Genius. Why isn't everybody just using that?

I don't know. I really thought there would be more reaction when he mentioned that, and it kind of just got swept under the rug. It was wild. By the way, a lot of alien conversation the last couple days. Oh, man. AJ. AJ, Starship's from Elon, bro. Five million bucks on going to fucking Mars.

150 tons of whatever. Liquid methane. Just going to be a $5 million purchase. He's going to be pumping those things out every 72 hours. Elon's an alien. I'm buying a Starship. Can't wait's going to be pumping those things out every 72 hours. Elon's an alien. I'm buying a starship. Can't wait to go to fucking space. Wow, already in space.

Let's go. It's awesome, dude. Yeah. You would do well on that Mars trip. Isn't it like three years there, three years back or something? You're going to need a glue guy. You're going to need a glue guy in there. I'll tell you.

That's immediately regrettable, by the way. What's that, about four or five days into that thing? I don't even know. Less than that, I think. What did I? Three hours after that thing? A situation where you wake up and you're the only one awake on the ship, and that's bad.

Oh, like Jacob Solley. Yeah. You bring your Oculus. I think you'll be all right. Hey, still undefeated, by the way, in the Oculus boxing. Is it cool? I legit almost got one, but I haven't done it yet. So I feel like the boxing is very awesome.

I got the car sickness thing. Felt like I was twisted 3, 4 a.m. because I went on a roller coaster one. I had to take that thing off, and I was like, it was like you put your foot down to stop the spinning. You know what I mean? It was a little bit bad. So I'm going to stay away from those games. I think those games are potentially my kryptonite. But the ping pong, the boxing, top golf as one.

I was hitting some drives off some bays off top golf, playing a little cornhole on there. I mean, you've got to find your games. But, yeah, there's some downfalls for sure. The old equilibrium, I think, was tossed into a goddamn shitter whenever I was on that roller coaster. I jumped off of something. Just see you later. I did a look around.

Was that like when you'd be at Kennywood all day and then you'd lay down at night? Spence. Or whenever you go to Sandcastle and you go down to things and at night it feels like you're still going down to things. That's what it was like when I was on a roller coaster about to puke. That's the show. I'm just going to wait. I'll wait it was like when I was on a roller coaster about to puke. So that's the show. I'm just going to wait.

I'll wait until you get sick of it, and then I'll try to get you to send – I'll tell your wife to send yours to me because I'm sure you'll be done with it in about two weeks. That's not true. That's not true. This is my entire fitness school. New year, new me, dude. Now, it didn't affect my morning routine, but still new year, new me. Dude, I don't want to give away my tactics if the artificial intelligent

humans I'm fighting are listening to this show, which they potentially are, because it's Facebook and I assume something's logged in on one of these computers by Facebook, so they're

automatically listening. And Duke from Chicago fucking caught these hands last night, but it seems like I got a move that is unbeatable in boxing. You just jab them in the

gut, boom, boom, until they move their hands, and then you crow-hawk into a right-hawk around. You just jab them in the gut. Boom. Boom. Until they move their hands and then you crow-hawk into a right-hawk around. You know what I mean? In real boxing, probably not great. Okay? Probably eating a couple. But in the Oculus boxing, I just dislodge jaws from their fake fucking heads. It is awesome.

Just fucking boom right in the gut. Boom right in the gut. Boom right in the gut. Oh, he opened up. It is awesome, dude. Seems very realistic then the gut oh we opened up it is awesome dude it's very it seems very realistic then pretty much yeah yeah yeah you're knocking people out like that if you're exposing your whole body to try to knock people out like that i've been knocked down a couple times okay my little artificial guy got a good jaw too he gets back up i don't like how quickly he goes down but we are getting back up and we will train but i will say the oculus boxing has

made me incredibly overconfident a truck cut me off this morning thought about pulling them over and fighting every person in the car you know what i mean hey come on come on pow pow pow see that's why you need two oculus's so you can give one to the truck driver and say hey you ready to go you want to do this again i don't know if you guys saw my wife did get her Oculus. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. So there's potential battle Oculus. Here we go.

In the Oculus arena. Might help the ping pong. We got to get to... Fucking ping pong, dude. This guy got me. Guy hit his wife in the face with his hand while I was playing against him. I heard it.

Wait, can you hear the... Are they talking? Oh, yeah. I talked to a German guy the other day. Ochsnik Flugensstein, get your dick out of my potato salad. Yeah. I said it. I've been talking to him.

You know what I mean? I did the whole thing. Guy I was playing with, really good player. And I was hitting the short corner hard. You know what I mean? And he had to reach for it, and his hand went out of his little designated guardian area. But he was so locked in on the ball.

He hit his wife with the thing, and I heard him go, oh, I'm so sorry, babe. And then he had to redo his whole movement thing, and I waited on him, and then I served it to him. I laughed. He hit it with a quick ace. Well, you got to throw six inches.

It's a gentleman's sport in there. That's nice. This lady from Japan fucking killed me. Oh, no. Yeah, she had the inverted, the whole thing. Oh, you do that? Inverted Oculus. Bro, it's real ping pong in there.

I mean, it was a fucking ass beat. Did you play with a smaller paddle, too? I don't know if they changed the paddle size, but that thing was inverted like this right here. Jeez. You just had to walk in there knowing you were screwed. Oh, yeah. As soon as I saw it, I was like, what the fuck is that? Because you see a head choice.

Mine is just the Oculus, by the way. there's tigers and cats and things you can choose i just got the oculus all right i want them to know there's a man back here yeah so and then they this one you you have like the cat head and then you see hand and then you see paddle so that's all you see so you like see them like potentially scratching themselves like you can see them do their whole thing and uh yeah like when that guy hit his wife or whatever like you saw his hand go and then stop and it was like oh no and then both hands went up you know what i mean so it's like a whole time out it's a real thing in there you need to get it aj we need to box we need to play ping pong so i can go i can box against you if i get one i don't think they're there yet but let elon fucking get his hands on this thing we're like probably a month or two out from that at most yeah can't thank you the guests and all the boys enough for everything today thanks for allowing

us to spend time with you thanks for you know giving us a shot yeah there's some stats put out about our youtube and everything that was pretty humbling and you know giving us a shot yeah there's some stats put out about our youtube and everything that was pretty humbling and you know whenever somebody says something is humbling i never really understood what that meant because normally it comes after a massive compliment you know so a massive compliment will go and then the person goes oh that's very humbling you know what i mean and i was like well that's not really they're kind of boosting the ups i don't think it's humbling the humbling thing is like okay now i have to prove that uh we deserve it and that's the humbling thing so know that we are hopefully just getting started here just scratching the

surface of what we could potentially become and do although we've been around for a while and we thank the people that have listened for a long time i think we're heading off into a direction that is both hilarious, hopefully entertaining, and hopefully hilarious, obviously, and an enjoyable ride, I think. We're all excited. We've got some hilarious shit planned. And who knows what's going to pop up. And we can't thank you enough for being alongside us on this pilgrimage to wherever the fuck the end of the road is. I like that.

Cheers. Ty, please play some independent music and propel these people into a beautiful Monday. We'll see you tomorrow for Aaron Rodgers Tuesday. Let's go. Thank you. សូវាប់បានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបាូវាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពាប់បានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបា� Thank you. សូវាប់ពីបានប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្វាប់បានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបាូវាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប�