The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 330 - College Football Playoff National Championship Recap, Aaron Rodgers, Jarvis Landry, Darius Butler, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: January 12, 2021

On today's show, Pat and the boys recap the National Championship and wonder if anyone will be able to challenge Alabama for the next 10 years if Nick Saban is around, Devonta Smith being an absolute stud, Mac Jones' pro prospects and much more. Joining the show for a shorter version due to a work day is Green Bay Packers QB Aaron Rodgers to chat about this weekend's game against the Rams, Aaron announces he'll be guest hosting Jeopardy!, Jalen Ramsey's trash talk ability, alien's being real, his donation to the Barstool Fund, and much more (20:32-37:58). Next, 5x Pro Bowler, friend of the program, coming off a huge game in a win against the Steelers in the playoffs, Jarvis Landry joins the show to chat about getting a playoff win for Cleveland, his mindset going into the game, the team's reaction to the Browns is the Browns comment, what has changed in Cleveland, AVP calling the plays, the celebration in the locker room, and much more (38:00-59:20). Later, 9 Year NFL veteran, co-host of the Man-To-Man Pod, Everything DB, Darius Butler joins the program to chat about Deshaun Watson, this weekend's playoff matchups, where he thinks certain coaches might wind up, the QB situation in LA, and more (1:02:35-1:28:35). Lastly, Pat and AJ chat a little bit more about the National Championship and check the pulse of the Buckeye Nation (1:30:55-1:47:01). Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow and listen every day on Mad Dog Radio, Sirius XM Channel 82. We appreciate you all for listening, come and laugh with us, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

hello it is aaron rogers tuesday january 12th 2021 quick convo with aaron still drop some nuggets and some breaking news i think you'll enjoy it also conversations with numerous other folks uh we can't thank you enough for choosing to listen to the show if you like the show by the end of it please be a friend tell a friend if you don't like the show just go ahead and fuck off man you know what i mean yeah just piss off all right let's get to it. Last night, we, just like you, watched the national championship where Nick Saban cemented his legacy as the greatest college football coach of all time in the hardest year to do college football. And I said this earlier in the season on college game day.

Do you believe, Pat, that there will be an asterisk next to whoever wins this college football national championship? And my answer was, because it was on ESPN, who cares if there's an asterisk next to it? And that was the same exact day that I learned that it's asterisk and not asterisk, but who gives a fuck? The asterisk means you have to look down at the bottom of the page where they say, hey, we got to explain this particular thing to you. If they could explain in there what the year 2020 was and what was happening and what these players and coaches and athletic trainers and equipment managers and commissioners and refs and everybody had to do to get a season off the ground, basically,

in the world environment that we're living in. If somebody was to look at that asterisk and look down and read that in like 20 to 30 years from now they go that had to be the hardest fucking year of college football in history these kids weren't allowed to even go to dorm parties that were right next to them these kids weren't allowed to go downstairs these kids weren't allowed to do anything let alone the kids how about the coaches not allowed to go get dinner with their family because they could potentially test positive which means contact tracing. Everybody's out. I mean, the fact that these dudes got to last night, won the national championship, I think it was an absolutely beautiful thing. Did I fall asleep in the fourth quarter? Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah. Did not make it all the way through, but I think we all understood what was going to happen very early in that game. I did pick Ohio State to cover last night, but then when they rolled out some big news of players not being in and not being out, I quickly publicly backed off of that bet. I would like to let that be known. I did do that. But watching Mack Jones and that Sarkeesian offense operate, with Devontae Smith being like a Tyreek Hill for them,

he might have ran seven miles in that first half, and a lot of them were for touchdowns. The dude is unbelievable. You have to worry a little bit about his size, as you do in every single situation with an undersized player going into the NFL, but a Heisman winner that isn't a quarterback

came into a national championship game with all eyes on him, basically, and showed up and showed out in a massive way it was almost like sarkisian said like hey you won the heisman a lot of people probably learning about you right now for the first time i want to let you know our entire game plan is let the whole world know why you won the fucking heisman we're gonna run you four times in the backfield and then you're gonna go out there we going to put you on this little white linebacker who was the

representative of Ohio State for the captains. And whenever he waddled out there and then Alabama had the guy that was just looking down at him. I thought Ohio State was potentially in trouble. Early, good fight. Good fight. But they had too many dudes in Alabama. What a win. Congrats

to Najee Harris. Devontae Smith, Mack Jones, old Dickerson getting on the field in the last play there. The big question mark around Saban's conversation about being the greatest of all time will be, you know, he went to the NFL, didn't

succeed. Does that matter? No. Greatest coach of all time. Last night, though, a lot of people weren't happy with the way Waddle was being used. Waddle looked like he couldn't even walk, and then he'd get on a field, ran that drag route, looked like he was running a 4-2, 4-3, then as soon as he gets off, it's like, oh my god, that guy should have a walking boot on almost. He continued to play, the internet erupted, obviously. That's the only downside to anything that happened last night, was Waddle playing through an obvious, very serious injury. As soon as he gets that one catch, they should have said, hey,

all right, you got a catch. You showed the world that you're incredibly tough. Now we need you to just sit down. Need you to do it for your sake. You're going to get a lot of money coming forward. Love last night. Love the game. Congrats, Alabama.

Congrats to Ohio State. We'll talk to Ohio State legend in the third hour, A.J. Hawk, about last night. We'll talk to Darius Butler in about 19 minutes or so about what's going on in his world. Aaron Rodgers Tuesday, normally scheduled for 2 p.m. Eastern Standard Time, 1 p.m. Eastern Standard Time. Okay. That is a little update for your calendars. Be a friend.

Tell a friend because Aaron has to work today. Sure. Bump it up an hour. Of course. He's got press conference, 225, practice, the whole thing. It is playoff Aaron Rodgers. He'll be on from 1 o'clock Eastern Standard to about

120-ish. We'll go to a break. We'll all take a pee. Ty won't eat anything terrible, so he'll be able to be here for this particular Aaron Rodgers tour. Then at 125, Jarvis Landry. Oh, the juice? Yeah, we got a big show today.

Today's going to be a big show. Let's get to it. Atone Diggs is here. A lot of rumors cooking up in the NFL. How are you feeling? What are you thinking about? Let me be the first to send my condolences to you. I feel bad.

I feel terrible. You had this grand plan next year of being able to go out to dinner every weekend with Carson Wentz, but now that Doug Peterson's gone, it seems like he's going to be staying in Philly. So I apologize to you. That is tough because I was getting my hopes up. Yeah. That Carson Wentz was potentially going to be the Indianapolis Colts

quarterback next year. I mean, I don't know what's going to happen with old Phil Rivers. Coach Reich already got a little emotional speaking about it. He only sees Phil playing quarterback for the Colts next year. But Phil said, maybe, or I'll be wearing a ball cap on the side of the football field coaching that team down in Alabama. And everybody at ESPN, NBC, and everybody's like, not so fast. Fuck them kids.

We can give you a lot of money to come in here and do this whole thing. So Phil's got a lot of options, obviously. Carson Wentz coming to Indy does seem like one that has settled down a little bit. But if the front office that wanted Jalen Hurts also wanted Carson Wentz, interesting. Are they still going to want to move Carson regardless? Carson said he would have wanted out if Doug Peterson stayed. Allegedly, these are all coming out of the woods. You know what I mean? These rumors are coming out of the woods because Carson Wentz is deep in a tree stand. He is deep in the woods right now. There's just a lot of drama going on over there. Now there's a thought that Doug

Peterson was trying to get fired. He wanted to get fired. He walked into that meeting and was like, hey, how about this? I ain't doing a fucking thing that you want me to do. What's up? What's up? Oh, you want me to still coach here? What else do I got to do? Let me pick this up and break it. You still want me to coach here? This is when you're looking for a fight to get out of a potential friendship or relationship. I think that's what Doug Peterson did whenever he walked into old buddy's office yesterday.

He was like, I don't like the way you're looking at me. He's like, well, I'm the owner of the team. Yeah, stop fucking looking at me. Give me that pen, too. I want to hire whatever coach I want to hire. You need to shut the fuck up no i'm not it's my team my own dog calm down no shit fuck you i took my visor off he did the whole thing and they were like all right you're fired he's like that's what i thought

and walked out and now he's going to be the jets head coach and now the philadelphia eagles are once again just in complete shit storm of what the hell's going on over there you think uh nate sudfeld sitting in his room and he sees that doug was just using him as a pawn in his end game and turns up hello darkness my old friend a little bit i'll tell you what nate sudfeld is the real victim of this entire thing in the philadelphia eagles organization his name is synonymous with eagles tanking like you think they were trying to win they put nate sudfeld in the game nate sudfeld did not deserve that what if nate goes out there by the way and taylor Heineke is all over the place? By the way, he didn't.

But what if he did? Instead, the conversation is Nate Sudfeld, incredible Hoosier, Indiana University Hoosier football player. He's been on Eagles for a long time. He has played meaningful snaps before, but now he's known for as the guy that Doug Peterson was either trying to lose a game with or inevitably a team started fighting their coach for putting him in the game at Boston-Connor. How do you feel about that?

Sudfeld's going to be fine. He's going to be a VP at J.P. Morgan in no time. But I'm looking forward to the draft right now. And honestly, I don't get the whole Mac Jones thing. I mean, especially because he's got the Heisman wide receiver, all those massive linemen who are walking out to coin tosses. I just don't want the Patriots to take Mac Jones thing. I mean, especially because he's got the Heisman wide receiver, all those massive linemen who are walking out to coin tosses, I just don't want the Patriots to take Mac Jones. That's my biggest worry right

now. So you just put your evaluation cap on and you said Mac Jones is not a quarterback for your team. You're a quarterback this year through six touchdowns. That's right, exactly. So I know a Mac Jones quarterback. Mac Jones almost threw that in the first half yesterday. Yeah, to Devontae Smith. So if we can get Devontae Smith, Mac Jones,

and the entire Alabama offensive line, maybe even Sark comes up too, then maybe, but you can't do that. I will say it is interesting. I haven't watched enough film like you obviously. Oh, yeah, a ton. Yeah, I'm sure you have. Mitt was letting me know he gave me this whole rundown. He put together an Excel sheet for me.

Nice. Okay, I don't know how that has anything to do with what we're talking about right now. I'm Matt Jones. You're trying to slip in something else. No, I'm not trying to slip anything in. That's what you're doing. Now I just remember what you guys are talking about. I am not trying to slip anything in. Why would you even bring up Mitt? Because Mitt's

watched basically every single Bama game, college football game that's been played this year. Why is that? Yeah, but nobody knows that, so why would you say that publicly? Nobody thinks that Mitt is the authority on fucking film watching of alabama so why would you bring that up you haven't seen mitt's film room oh anyways well you were yeah exactly that's what you were trying to do anyways um michael lombardi former general manager for the browns and coaching assistant and all that shit for uh belichick he said basically whenever you talk about mac j Jones and other quarterbacks,

that you have to look at every single throw in two different fashions. Was that a scheme completion or was that a quarterback completion? So in college football, everybody's wide-ass open, it seems. If you have great athletes, your guys are wide-ass open. And I've said this on record numerous times. I think I could win a Heisman right now if I was to go back and play quarterback strictly because if you put me on a team where I could stand there and guys are going to be wide open I can make every throw okay so I can make every up in there the thing that Mac Jones does have though is because of Sarkeesian's offense with

the motion he has been able to dissect defenses and now granted college defense are very elementary compared to NFL defenses and normally you can just look at the safety to tell very quickly what's going on but he was able to do that at a very high rate this year okay make decisions quickly but it does feel like a lot of the passes that were completed yesterday were mostly scheme completions which isn't Mac Jones fault but Mac Jones is going to have to prove I believe over the long haul here that he can put a ball in a keyhole if he has to. Because in the NFL, we've seen some quarterbacks get in the NFL.

They had great schemes in college, but they're not used to guys not being wide-ass open, and then maybe they don't pull the trigger. A la Tua Tonga Valoa down in Miami. There was even a beautiful mic'd up moment between Ryan Fitzmagic in Tua, I believe it was in the Denver game, where Ryan

Fitzmagic actually looked at two and he said, hey, some days it's just going to have to be one-two and you're just going to have to basically throw it. And Fitzmagic was basically saying, like, and if it's a pick, you're going to have to just start throwing the ball because you get scared to kind of start double-clutching a little bit because when college guys are wide open, the NFL, if somebody has a half a yard, like that's open,

you've got to put that ball right there. That's why Joey Burrow has been so impressive because he can put it in there. Herbert's throwing the spots. And I think that's why you hear all these people complimenting these young quarterbacks because they're doing things that four-year, five-year vets in the NFL do where normally a lot of young guys are a little bit hesitant, scared to throw guys open. Now, will Mac Jones let that thing sling? I mean, I looked at his body yesterday after we're talking.

He has a good time, it feels like. I'll be intrigued to see most quarterbacks, by the way, bad body. Yeah. There's like shooters in basketball. There's no reason. Now, Andrew Luck yoked, okay? There's been quarterbacks that have been absolutely yoked,

but normally they want to be rather loose with the whole thing. Now, they have to be tough, durable, because they're taking a lot of shots, but you're not seeing a lot of normally yoked-up quarterbacks for a reason because it's just like a basketball shooter. You don't need to be all tight like that. Matt Jones, I'll be excited to see how he is in the NFL, and Fields, by the way. I'll be pumped to see how he does in the NFL

as well. I don't know if last night is anywhere near enough to jump Trevor Lawrence. He made a couple great throws, led a couple great drives and everything like that, but I feel like Trevor Lawrence is pretty much locked into one. Fields is probably number two. Zach Wilson, everybody's saying, is probably number three. And then Mac Jones, is Mac Jones number four in there?

This morning ESPN had a mock draft of the Colts actually taking Mac Jones in the first round. Uh-huh. Oh, wow. Which is weird. What's up, man? He does feel destined for the Bears, but I guess Frank loves him. Nobody knows.

Whose mock was it? It might have been Maziano's. I'm not positive. Fucking Maziano's out here doing mock drafts? It might have been. Early mock drafts. It might have been. I do not remember who it was accredited to.

Hey, if it ain't Todd or Mel, I don't want to fucking hear it. That's fair. That's fair. That's fair. Man, could you imagine? Because Zach Wilson would probably be sitting there, I guess. Or they have Zach already taken. Yeah, I think Todd is going to. Todd and Zach Wilson go number two overall as quarterback,

number four to the Falcons. Yeah. By the way, Zach, great athlete, I think. He'll test well, I think, whenever people – I think he'll test very well. And he has some film this year that makes you think, like, Zach, great athlete, I think. He'll test well, I think. I think he'll test very well. And he has some film this year that makes you think, okay, guy's a stud potentially. But boy, we're not in the evaluation game. Mack to Indy.

No, we're not. Mack to Indy. A little bit. All roads should not lead to Indy. I'm sick of that. Why? It's the perfect place for a QB. Every basic-ass white quarterback, send him to Indy. I'm sick of that. Okay? Why? It's the perfect place for a QB. Every basic ass white quarterback, send him

to Indy. Yeah! Come on! Perfect! Come on! Let's not be scared to go get a basic ass white dude up in Detroit that can sling the ball all over the yard. And we know he will not be scared to throw it into double, triple coverage if he has to, because he can make every single

throw. And let's save that guy, okay? Let's save him from Detroit. That guy has sacrificed his back, his neck, both of his hands, ankles, knees, and his entire happiness to that goddamn city. Now, they have paid him handsomely, but it is maybe a time for Chris Ballard and Jim Irsay to extend a hand for a guy that's been drowning in money and sorrows up there in Detroit and say, hey, pal, come on down to an actual football team.

Come on. That would be awesome. Pat, no disrespect to Phil Rivers at all, of course, but we all watched that game on Saturday and we said, if Matthew Stafford's the quarterback of the Colts, they win this game for sure. By the way, we have said that. Not everybody has said that, though, by the way. Really?

I've learned from the internet that not everybody has the same narrative about Matthew Stafford that I do because, by the way, I don't think you watch any Detroit Lions games. Right. Matt Stafford is a video game quarterback. He's nuts. It is un-fucking-believable watching him just pick apart. And there's no respect for him because his team sucks. Yeah.

And they're not even going to be able to hire the guy from the fucking 15 minutes down the road who might actually like the Lions organization, Bob Salah. They're going to be fucked for a long time. Pat. Chris Spielman's going to be running the show. Oklahoma Drill's in the front office. Let's go. What's up, dude?

I had this thought last night. If Ben retires, Stafford would be awesome. But then I realized that with Stafford comes Evan Fox's fandom be careful what you wish for yeah you're right exactly you're right i actually do think the more and more i think about it stafford's just gonna stay in detroit couldn't you see that happening yeah well it's one of those things just like deshaun watson where it's like you've been looking for a quarterback you're not gonna come into a job and say you know what got a quarterback let's get rid of him first move i don't see stafford being like yeah trade, trade me.

He could, but. That's the thing. Stafford would have to raise hell. Yes. And at this point, you know, I mean, I feel like he's such a laid back, like good guy, he won't do it. But why doesn't he just go in there and be like, fuck you guys. I'm not playing for you next year.

Get rid of me. Get me out of here. Wouldn't that be awesome? One morning, he just wakes up. Somebody pissed him off somehow. Yeah. Maybe somebody, maybe a Lions fan won license plate. Cuts him off the end of the morning. He just wakes up. Somebody pissed him off somehow. Maybe somebody maybe a Lions fan won license plate. Cuts him off

the end of the morning. He's like, yes, motherfucker. I'm done. And he goes in and he sleeps and maybe his bed breaks and the Detroit water isn't working. He can't even shower. Oh, jeez. And his internet's obviously not working. Terrible. And he just says, you know what? Too fucking long.

And he goes right in and says, I'm out of here. Trade me now or I'm not retired. Terrible. And he just says, you know what? Too fucking long. And he goes right in and says, I'm out of here. Trade me now or I'm retiring. He pulls the Carson Palmer. You either trade me or I'm retiring. He should do it. He should call Doug Peterson and be like, hey, man, how do I get released? What am I supposed to say to my owner to get his ass to just cut me?

Doug's going to say, just walk in there and basically say everything he says is stupid. You want to hire that coach? That's stupid. You want to hire that coach? That's stupid. You want to do that? That's stupid. Matt, what about, you know, why don't we go and get some offensive linemen for you? That's stupid. Okay. What about a running back?

Yeah, that would be awesome. He would never do it. No. No chance. He should. And by the way, we'll never get talked about because he doesn't do media, doesn't do anything. It's just like, I'm just going to go do my job and kind of just disappear into irrelevance because the franchise that drafted me and that number one overall pick because they were so bad the year before they drafted me and i'm

just a loyal team guy gotta respect it yeah selfishly i want him to stay so bad but he has every right to say give me the hell out of here and he won't no he won't. No, he won't. And we're going to have Dan Campbell running the show here pretty soon. If you're lucky. I can't wait. If you're lucky. Just think about all the shit storms that Stafford has been through. Let alone the fans, okay, but Stafford's been through some. Schwartz? Okay, there was Schwartz almost fought.

I mean, almost fought at one point. Then, I mean, Jim Caldwell comes in. He's a steady hand. He's doing good. So the franchise is like, get him out of here. Finally like somebody. Can't have this. No. Too many winning here. Too many opportunities.

Nine wins? Calvin Johnson said, see you later, pal. Matt's like, god damn, I had the best wide receiver of all time. And you guys forced him out and made him pay you back. Then you fire him. Matt Patricia comes in. We don't know how that ended up working out. Slay.

Didn't have any fun for three years. No. And now you got us doing Oklahoma drills in a goddamn locker room. Dan Campbell and Chris Spielman. Player, coach, he lines up on tight end and goal line. Jesus. That'd be awesome. Your defense in the league last year.

Bro. Oh, yeah. What's new? Should he not say, get me out of here, dude? He should. I just don't think he will. He's just a quarterback that we're going to push for to get out of there. He'll be joining us today.

About 40 minutes or so. Don't have to push it if the front office is pushing it. Hey, listen, the Packers could this offseason say, we apologize for everything. Here's a seven-year deal. Screw it up. They could and they should. Here's $30 million a year for the rest of your career. Is that enough?

And then once you retire, you can take over ownership of the team. Sell you 51% from the fans. Exactly. Sign Godwin. Godwin, CG, is what we call him, on Mic'd Ups with Tom Brady. Best hands Tom's ever seen. Oh, yeah. First round of playoffs,

if you're not. Oh. Not good. He's unbelievable, though. Yeah. I used a little more juice. Tom had a little more juice in the first round of playoffs.

True. Oh, yeah. A little bit more dialed in. Ball's coming in a little too hot. I ain't got fucking time for anything, okay? It's playoffs. Who's hitting dummies on the run? We've got time for that shit.

At Viva La Zita, before we get to this break, because Darius Butler will be joining us on the other side, what is your poll of the day? I feel like this one's going to get large. Oh, yeah. Who's the best quarterback left in the playoffs? Great question.

Last place, Tom Brady at 5%. Josh Allen, 12.2%. Patrick Mahomes, 19.9%. And Aaron Rodgers, 62.9%. Yep. A lot of people said LaMarche lived down there. Baker. We didn't put himgers 62.9% Yep A lot of people said Lamar should have been on there Baker

We didn't put him on there No one said Baker should have been on there A lot of A lot of bronze fans did Yeah They beat the shit out of the Steelers They did They did

Baker Mayfield beat the Living piss No no He retired big bad He retired And hell Holy shit And passed

Wow You watch that game. He still stinks. Whoa. Jarvis Landry had like 100-some yards. Jarvis had to. You should have seen him. Okay, you Steelers fans still just can't get over it.

Some people were saying Bama could have beat the Steelers. Whoa. I didn't say it. We didn't say it. Some people. Whoa. Listen, anybody that's saying a college team is beating an NFL team, normally not taken very seriously.

Here we go. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, the 2020 NFL MVP, officially named first-team All-Pro. The team he plays quarterback for is number one in the NFC, so all roads to the Super Bowl have to go through his home turf. Ladies and gentlemen, Aaron Rodgers. What's up, dude? Hey, buddy.

Work edition. Yeah, are you at work right now? Where are you at? Are you in the locker room? Are you in the back room? What's going on? Yeah, I'm in the back room. I see you got press in like an hour and 25 as well. I assume a lot of the things we talk about here, you're going to get questioned about again. So let's get to it. Congrats on the $500,000 donation to the Barstool Fund. It's absolutely awesome.

Absolutely awesome. What made you do that? How'd you get into it? How did it all work out? That was really cool to see unfold, brother. Yeah, thanks, buddy. I've been following El Presidente on social media for a while, and I've enjoyed his takes on many different things. And when he got kind of challenged, I was wondering how he would respond. Initially, it was, hey, here's $500,000. You take it. You figure out how to go with the money. That changed pretty quickly into him and his folks there figuring out how to get the money out. It's just an amazing deal what they're doing. I mean, to be able to not only change people's lives and livelihoods, but to do it in such a timely fashion. I mean, the money is going out 24 to 72 hours. And I think there was just such a need.

If you look around our environment today, it's not like the government is really helping anybody out in a timely fashion. I mean, it took forever to figure out how to give $600 checks away. And then, you know, may or may not get to 2000 at this point. That's not life-changing money. What Dave and his folks are doing with the Barstool Fund is life-changing money.

It's sustainability for these people. And I think that's the thing that you gravitate towards the most, is just not having a reliance on the government to help you out, because obviously they've shown that's not going to be the way they're going to do it. I mean, they've put these rules in place place they're not even following their own rules i mean don't you know how many people have gotten caught don't travel don't leave the state oh here's so and so on a vacation oh here's so and so at a salon don't don't eat out at a restaurant you know unless you're wearing a mask and separate oh here's a picture of the governor of california

violating those rules. Oh, public schools are closed, but I can send my kids to a private school in person. Schooling is like, I mean, for us to count on the government to help us out is becoming a joke at this point. So what's happening is guys like Dave and his staff and all the amazing people who donate money, this is people helping people. This is money going directly to save businesses a lot of these have been in business for 10 20 30 50 95 years one of them and you watch these videos how can you not be moved by by the work they're doing i mean you're putting a face to all these names and where the money's going and it's it's just so exciting

so like i said on on the instagram with dave you know, it's really a call to action. But those of us who can donate, let's donate. Let's help. Let's help our our brothers and our sisters out because we these are our people. We're all we got. If you if you can't donate, if you're as affected as so many people are, let's spread the word. You know, in our age group, Pat, you know, you and I in our mid and late 30s, like so many of our friends at this age are starting to own businesses. You know, they're small business owners. And this is the pandemic has obviously killed business. And, you know, I've talked on this show and in my locker about kind of the part that doesn't get talked about a lot with the pandemic is the mental part. And, you know, the suicide network having, you know, 400,000, 400,000 percent

increase in the amount of calls they're getting. You know, people are hurting not just financially, but mentally. And I think this is such a great message of hope that there is people, there is good Samaritans out there who are going to come step up and help out. So spread the word. There's a lot of opportunity. There's more money coming in every single day. Elon Musk got on board with it. You know, a big shout out and an alert to my people in Northern California who've been so affected by the fires, the three huge fires in the last few years, you know, the fire in Santa Rosa area, the fire in Redding, 70 miles from where I grew up, and then the fire in Paradise, really 15 minutes from where I grew up.

Like, there's a lot of people hurting. So if you're in that area and you've got a long-term business and you're trying to just make ends meet, like, reach out. There's going to be some good opportunities, not just with the Barstool Fund, but with some other stuff that we're going to be doing in the area to get some help, you know, that probably the government at this point is not going to give you. We've seen, you know, they drop a 500-page bill and millions and in some cases billions of dollars go on to other countries. Like, it's not like they're keeping this money back on the home front for us. Trillions, I think, at this point.

I think it's trillions at this point. And by the way, Aaron, I also donated as well. Whenever I saw you do it, I thought it was beautiful because you getting involved with it will bring others into it the fact elon's in it it's people helping people private citizens helping private citizens and it's a beautiful thing we appreciate that good on you and the boys hey not surprised hey you should run for president maybe i mean i'm sure people have told you that very well spoken. Handsome man. Accomplished man. Very intelligent. Hey, dude, let me be the press secretary, though, if that happens.

Can I be the press secretary? Come out every single day? Yeah. You know, first, I'm going to drop some knowledge on you. I don't know if this is out yet, but, you know, one of my idols growing up was Alex Trebek. You know, and being able to be on Jeopardy! years ago, even though my wardrobe outfit wasn't the greatest choice. No, no, it doesn't matter. Everybody's dress is very bad on that show.

They're doing some guest hosting spots, and it's going to be released here pretty soon, but I have the opportunity to do one of those. Let's go! Did you watch Ken last night? Did you watch Ken? No, I didn't see Ken last night. Did you watch Ken last night? Did you watch Ken? No, I didn't see Ken last night.

I was watching some film and checked in on the college football championship as well for a little bit. But I'm excited about that opportunity with Jeopardy. You're going to crush it. Ken Jennings did everything that he could last night. Good show. Show must go on. Jeopardy's too good.

I also am a watcher. Would never want to go on the show because I get one right maybe every 30 minutes. So not really my thing. But I can't wait to watch your episode. Pumped about it. Let's talk about the game this weekend that you were watching film on. Everybody's talking about, obviously, Devontae and Jalen. And then you talk about Aaron Donald, who's an absolute monster.

And that Rams defense. And who knows what's going to happen on the other side of the ball. You don't have to worry about that. What are your thoughts about this Rams team coming into Lambeau? I mean, they seem to be pretty stacked on that defensive side yeah well you know they hit a rough stretch late in the season um you know where they lost a few games in a row and came down to week 17 with a win or potentially go home scenario and they came out and played a really good football game uh and beat uh beat arizona to get in. And then obviously they played really well against an opponent they know

and played against twice a year. It's a really talented team on both sides of the ball. On defense, you have a generational type player in Aaron Donald and pretty much the same for Jalen as well. I remember playing against him as a rookie in Jacksonville years ago, and he was playing nickel most of that game. But you could just tell with that body type and that wingspan, his ball skills, he was going to be really special,

and he's obviously turned into one of the top guys in the league. He's, as opposed to some guys on the show I've teased about not being great trash talkers, I think he's probably a pretty good trash talker. He's gotten some folks. You know, playing with him or playing against some Colts, Jags or whatever, getting a chance to listen. That's why I always enjoy it. I'm like, this

dude is a showman out here, too. Like, this guy, uber competitive, but also a showman. I enjoy it a lot. Are you growing a playoff beard? Yeah, I'm letting it go a little bit. I'll do the same. I'll do the same. Are we doing playoff beards? Yeah, why not? I can't

really tell if yours is coming in a whole lot, but if the mustache grows better, maybe just stick with the mustache. The mustache is bad. If I could grow... One guy on your staff would grow a killer mustache. I almost came in with it. I did.

What do you got? Aaron, obviously everyone always talks about Lambeau, how cool it's going to be and everything. Can you remember what it was like being a NorCal guy the first time you played? They're like, how tough is that going to be for Goff or some of those other guys? Because there's really no way they can replicate what it's going to be like, right? Yeah, it's tough just because there's so many different factors, I think, that you have to deal with, not just the footing, but the humidity and how the ball feels on your hand,

how the ball comes off, if there's any type of precipitation, which in this case, based on the weather, would be snow. That changes how the ball comes off as well. So there's a lot of things that you've got to try and figure out in a short amount of time. The ball definitely feels differently as it gets below 30 30 which we're expecting on saturday afternoon evening so it's definitely a change i remember we didn't have a lot of late games in 05 and 06 but in seven we had a couple uh that i would say miserable games i was on the sidelines for both but we

played in chicago which is one of the coldest environments ever. I mean, we always talk about the frozen tundra, but the frozen lake effect of Chicago is tough. Underrated. In 07, late in the year, we played in Chicago, and it was gusting to 50 miles an hour. And I remember walking on the field in pregame before, and the field was so crunchy and long, you could make an indent.

And it was like a four- or five-inch indent in the surface. I was thinking, man, are we going to actually play on this field? And I was so damn cold on the sideline the entire time. And then, you know, we made a run with the NFC Championship and played in minus 24 wind chill against the Giants that year. That was brutal as well. I didn't play in either of those two games, so I didn't know what it was like necessarily to play

in that type of environment, but it was really, really cold. In 2008, my first real cold game, we played in Chicago on a night game later in the season, and the night before it was minus 40, and I was thinking, how the hell are we going to play minus 40? And it warmed up to the winter of minus 16 that night. That's definitely a shock to the California. Did you get hypnotized? Did you get hypnotized?

Because you said you, last week we asked about it, because of how big of an advantage it is for everybody to have to go through Lambeau. In the way you played in that blizzard the other week, you almost played better. And you said that you embrace the suck basically you think it sucks less than other people do did was there like a real thing you had to go through to get to that or did it just naturally come whenever you started competing well yeah it wasn't any uh hypnotism uh i heard it works mental gymnastics for sure a lot of it is

in your mind it's uh the know saying mind over matter i think uh definitely does apply when it gets really really cold because there's some things you can do that don't help and one is stand by the heater because you're making that extreme from the warmth you feel standing next to that warm heater spew it out and you know 100 degree heat to going back on the field when it's in the negative wind chill temperatures, that extreme actually makes you colder. So you have to be smart about how much your body temperature fluctuates, and that's just something I've learned over the years.

My move, because I didn't have to go out on the field much, was I would get one of those big Berka-like things. What are those things? Yeah, big thing. And I'd turn it backwards, sit on the heated bench. So then that thing's locking me in there. And then whenever it was like second and long, it looked like it was about time, I would take that thing off,

just sprint down to where I had to be, go punt. Then we're heading right back into the igloo, my friend. Heading right back in there. But I didn't have to actually play. So there's a couple different worlds there. I know we have to let you go. You're in the middle of a massive time. Good luck this weekend.

Did you also hear that every piece of alien information that our government has has been released today? Today? Yeah, yeah. CIA released over like 10,000 documents about it. Yeah. Give me the cliff notes because that's... Literally just got released. So you're learning. We know as much as you do. about it yeah we had give me the cliff notes because that's that's uh literally literally just got released so you're learning we know as much as you do connor did do a quick scan

there was one particular page that was downloaded like 1.4 million times so there seems to be a couple pages that have really caught some attention out there and what are they saying they're they're among us i'm assuming or you'd be one of them actually disclose another 180 day thing that was put into this 500 plus page stimulus package that is not an addendum that they have to like release some sort of information. There's been a lot of talk about disclosure over the last many years. I'd be surprised if there's any mass disclosure at this point but as you know pat as we've talked about they're out there i talked about your own ball going through the sky with the fighter jets how i wish that would happen to me one evening because i'm so in now elon your guy you're probably going to meet him now with this whole thing popping off. Elon, he's pumping out starships every three days, $5 million per. It can hold like 100 and some tons of whatever, LEO.

It's cheap to be made. And if you can't afford it, no big deal. Hop in. Send yourself to Mars. You can earn it back by planting some seeds on fucking Mars out there. I mean, we are in a wild time, Aaron. What a great time to be alive. Good luck this weekend. Ladies and gentlemen, Aaron Rodgers.

What a guy, dude. So we're doing playoff beards. Can't wait. Okay, good. So that helps me a lot. You know what I mean? So I just don't have to act like I even want to do anything right now. I might come in with a stache tomorrow. Have to. You have to do a playoff stache. Have to do a playoff stash. Have to do it.

I think probably so. I thought he had to get hypnotized, by the way. Because if those first two games you're walking on the field like, are we even able to play here? And then all of a sudden you become the guy in the cold. That's amazing that he has that type of mental control where he's like, nah, not that cold, no big deal. It sucks more for them than it does for me.

Let's go ahead and dominate and play better than I even play whenever it isn't this cold. There really is no way they can replicate that though right because they're not going to be going to green bay early uh to like you know get a practice in or anything so like how like for a couple of those guys that'll be the first i mean i know last week it was kind of cold in seattle but i feel like it's a completely different ball game you know the thought of them turn on the air conditioner you know what i mean yeah? Maybe that'll get you out there in L.A. You know what I mean?

Open up the window so you get a breeze off the ocean, then turn the air conditioner on the other side, create a little thing. Yeah, you can't replicate it. Just like you can't replicate the Miami humidity either whenever you're potentially traveling south from a northern team as well. Patriots tried to do that.

They would practice indoors, turn the heat all the way up to like 80, and start's what i'm talking about you're gonna appreciate you're gonna thank you be thankful for this whenever you're dying on sunday aaron's playing on saturday that's why tuesday big work day because every day gets moved up today is wednesday which is heavy workload day i'm excited for their game oh and it's crazy because uh and we were talking before we got in here um back when the chargers had philip rivers and they were going to go on a tear remember they didn't have home field advantage they had to travel on the road they get a win in wild card weekend then they were supposed to go to new england and dominate new england because people hadn't watched new

england play for like a week and they had had seen what Phillip Rivers and the Chargers got, which was very hot. And it's almost we live in such a what-have-you-done-for-me-lately society that you completely forget even one week to the next because somebody steals the show. It feels like that's potentially a thought. I mean, a lot of people think the Packers are going to win here, but I guess it's getting fake Rams hot in the gambling world. I guess there's people thinking that the Rams have a legitimate shot.

In my eyes, I don't know how Green Bay doesn't win by 14 to 20 here. Honestly, I have no idea how they don't. What's that? Tony. Tony's all in on the Rams. I'm the only one, though. Yeah, but that's why Tony's in on the Rams. Because all of us are on the Packers.

And Tony's very hot, though. Tony's very, very hot. Why are you in on the Rams? What do you think? I just think that their defense matches up well strictly because if Jalen could take away Devontae, I would like to see what the other weapons that we talked about in the offseason, that they need more weapons, see how they do. And then the Packers' one weakness has always been defending the run,

and Cam Akers went off for like 170 last week. That is interesting. That is very interesting because it doesn't really matter who's playing quarterback than if they're just going to run the rock the entire time. I would like to clarify, I don't think the Rams will win. Six and a half,

they're too much. But then we talked about the cold weather and I just pulled this up. Since entering the league, Goff has played twice in weather under 30 degrees. He has a 34.5 passer rating, 47% completion percentage,

zero touchdowns, five interceptions. On the other hand, Rodgers has played in six of these games since 2016, throwing 10 touchdowns, one interception, 108 passer rating, and 65.8 completion rate. Yeah, so that's what we were talking about. Yeah.

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Browns the culture shift seemed to be There and I asked you obviously About how you felt about being one of the pillars of that culture changing. We all saw that on Hard Knocks, and then now here we are. You said it was kind of an entire building type thing. You go into Pittsburgh without your head coach, without numerous other people, against division rival, longtime rival. Obviously, the Browns is the Brown comment.

Get a win on the road. I mean, that had to be one of the best trips back to Cleveland after that game in the history of traveling with the NFL, or could you guys not really celebrate because of COVID protocols? Yeah, we couldn't really celebrate because of COVID, man, but I think that was one of the best locker room experiences that I've had after a win since I've been in the league. It was a big win. It was a huge one for the city, for us as players,

and obviously with all the things that's going on, circulating from the COVID to losing guys and things like that, you know, it was a big win for us. How involved was Stefanski last week? Was it like a voice of God-like thing? Did they have him on a little robot? Because I see that tied Peyton Manning on the segue, basically, where they're saying, like, drop your –

was Stefanski on a segue that you guys were just rolling around? How did that work last week with the head coach being out? Man, pretty much everything was pretty much the same. I mean, we only practiced one time last week, and I think that was for, like, maybe an hour. So that was the only time we could get in the building. So everything we did was virtual. And obviously, being that it was virtual, he was able to be on to be on all the calls obviously he took a step back and let coaches

that were going to be a part of the game you know coach but you know he still put his input in and things like that and um you know we knew what we were playing for we knew what we had to go do at this point of the season how nice was the all virtual week i mean granted not great can't get into building circumstances but as as pretty obvious, earlier in the year, when the Titans lost to the Bills, I forget, it was a Tuesday night game or something. The Titans couldn't practice for like nine days straight or whatever

and then they played and they won. And that was when the Bills were hot. I remember a lot of former players and current players coming out and saying, we've been saying this whole time, practice is bullshit. We've been saying this whole time, we don't need to be practicing or whatever. You guys, this late into the season, I would assume that a week off with – I mean, granted, mentally you guys had to be dialed in to the Zoom calls

and everything like that. Had to feel pretty good for the body and recovery. Is that something you guys are going to repeat this week? You're like, all right, we're not practicing for the rest of the year. Let's go ahead and run this thing? Yeah. See, I don't know how it's going to work. I think it just worked out that way.

And, again, you know, which caused you to be on the details even more um when you just on those zooms calls and you're not getting those live reps you know and and at the same time i think for us going into this week you know we want to be able to practice we want to be able to get out there and get some of the soreness out and things like that so you know that's that's part of it you know i'm a guy who I love to practice. So I love to be out there. I love to practice. But, you know, if the week came down to being a similar week like last week, I'll take it.

Man, you just said like everything that every fan would hope that a player on their team would say. Like, you know, I assume you know that, right? Like, I love to practice, which, by the way, for me, if I didn't't practice i felt like i was going to be shit on sunday i think there's a lot of guys that feel that way and there's some guys that can just take g days and take days off and everything like that if i had a bad game i wouldn't be able to do that but hearing your star player say like i love the practice i want to get out there cleveland is so lucky to obviously have you over there uh avp can you is that what you guys call him because it was right there on

his mask he had a hell of a night what can you talk about him being a part of the game the game the the sideline conversation the halftime conversation the adjustments uh did you guys expect that from him just knowing the type of guy because aaron rogers who had it was with him in green bay was like oh avp is going to crush it basically did you guys know that you guys had a weapon in him and did you think he was going to be able to do what he did on Sunday night? Yeah, I mean, I think he wouldn't be a part of this staff. I mean, just like knowing Kevin and how he put together this staff, I think that, like, the chemistry between those two guys are extremely important,

and it's been a part of our success, obviously. You know, obviously Kevin's been calling the plays, but I think the good changeup of having AVP, a guy who knows the offense, And it's been a part of our success, obviously. You know, obviously Kevin's been calling the plays. But I think the good changeup of having AVP, a guy who knows the offense, a guy who knows, you know, what to expect out of a defense that the Steelers are playing, being that he had been in division, you know, between the Bengals and here and stuff like that. So he knew what to expect and he could put his own twist on things. So, you know, I don't think they could have get a good beat on what we were doing offensively. And, you know, that definitely was to our benefit.

Hey, are there times when you line up and you're looking at it? Because wide receiver, obviously, you're dependent upon the quarterback seeing the same thing you're seeing and knowing that you're open and throwing you the ball and accurately and everything like that. But is there times where you look at a potential defense in a way it's set up and you go, oh, this ball is coming to me and I'm about to make a big play? Yeah, that's like every time I line up,

I think that. Oh, God. No cap. So, when you saw Bob Spokane lined up over top of you, you knew that there was a potential problem for old Spillane? Like, hey, Spillane, good player. Huge neck, hits very hard.

But you are in some deep shit right now. That's immediately upon lining up. You think that all the time? Yeah. I mean, yeah, I think that was just one of the things, again, I mean, AVP being in this division, knowing, you know, predicting coverages and things like that, and then trying to formulate these mismatches.

And, you know, we got an opportunity to make a play, and we did. How did you guys react to the Browns as the Browns? Obviously, we saw that it was a storyline. When was the first time? Was it on a Zoom call? I guess it had to be on a Zoom call where maybe before a – like, oh, okay, here's a question. These Zoom calls, are they like team meetings? Like everybody's in there, and then you're waiting for the coach to get there,

so there's some side chatter? Or as soon as you get in there, is it directly quiet? Yeah, usually coach is on there. Everything's quiet. And, you know, we just wait for him to speak and then we break off into our, you know, individual meetings. And in those individual meetings, you guys saw the Browns as the Browns and that was when everybody talked about it?

Yeah, Liz, again, I don't think it was something that everybody talked about, but I know that everybody saw and felt some type of way about it. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. And, you know, you didn't have to say on game day, like, hey, you know, they talking shit over there, or he saying shit. You know what I mean? It was just, like, one of those things that was understood,

and we knew what we had to do, like I said. The Browns, by the way, the way that, I don't know if he directly meant it, but the way, like, Steelers fans talk, and a lot of people talk about the Browns being the Browns, by the way, the way that, I don't know if he directly meant it, but the way like Steelers fans talk, and a lot of people talk about the Browns being the Browns, is like, hey, this team is going to have potentially a good roster, but they're inevitably going to stink. You guys have completely flipped that. I mean, the football team that you guys have become this year has been awesome to watch. I mean, it's just absolutely awesome to watch. If other programs or franchises are trying to do that, what is the most important thing? You just got to get a bunch of guys to buy in. You got to have a guy who's a leader of your team, who's not scared to yell at his

position group if they suck in the middle of training camp. And then he also loves practice. Like, what do you need to kind of flip around a program? Because you were there before, and then you're there now. What do you think is vital to the whole process? Now, what do you think is vital to the whole process? First of all, I think it's leadership, top down, you know, and making sure that I think the biggest thing, like for me, being here, you know, just the lines of communication. You know, I think that, you know, you've been in a prestigious organization, a historic organization where, you know, some things when you're a younger player

you don't even pay attention to things don't go on and as you get older you start to be more aware and tied into you know things that's happening around the building so I think that for for me recognizing this year I think the leadership is obviously there the experience is there we had a younger younger younger side of younger team when I first got here you know so I think the experience is there we had a younger younger younger side of younger team when i first got here you know so i think the experience is there the leadership is there and you know i said this yesterday on twitter like i've been always one of those guys that have always believed in like wanting to see people reach like the best that they can be you know what i mean and then from there being able to give them that mentality or help them create the mentality or whatever they need to have the confidence to do that consistently and what i mean by that is just like being able to like hey like

if it's a guy who likes to be quiet then all right i need to figure out a way to get him in that zone if there's a guy who likes to talk shit i need to figure out a way for him to be able to be able to talk his shit whenever you want to talk his shit and if there's a guy that loves money let's figure out a way to motivate this guy if he's in it for the money. If this guy's in it for the game, it's all types of that type of stuff. Exactly. And you know this. Again, you've been in that type of organization, you know, and around these type of guys. Every guy is different. You know, you can't do the same thing with every guy, you know. And I believe that when that becomes contagious and when, you know, your tight ends, now they think that way your your running backs think that way now your dbs think that way now you know that's the standard you know and we've

able we've been able to create a standard here with the leadership that we have that's that's turned things around for us i always enjoyed that whenever somebody i had like a coach uh assistant coach who was like that guy's only in it for the money it's like who gives a fuck yeah like if he's only in it for the money let's figure out, who gives a fuck? Like, if he's only in it for the money, let's figure out how to make him feel like, okay. He's here. Yeah, like, hey, you're in it for the money. Okay, you make more tackles, dude. Listen, you're going to get more money.

More money. Hey, you're going to get more money, dude. Let's go. I don't care why you're here. Let's figure out how to make the best. Jarvis, man, you know, you sound like Mos Def a little bit. People tell you that? No, nobody's never said that.

The first time I was talking to you, I heard most deaf the entire time we were talking, and I was like, I don't know if this is a shot or not. This time you started talking again, I'm like, I can't. My mouth is just like, has to fucking say it. So you sound exactly like most deaf. Compliment, by the way. Thank you, brother. Yeah, no problem.

Connor, what do you got? Yeah, Jarvis, there was a report about Baker Mayfield saying that he had to actually introduce himself to a couple guys on game day. Was there any time you were on the sideline cheering and you didn't even know who you were cheering for, and then you had to introduce yourself to them on the sideline? Man, I would say, and I don't want to get my man name wrong, so I'm going to say his number is 62, Hance. Hance, I think his last name is. I saw him in the locker room before the game and had no idea, like, who he was.

I'm not going to lie. And then he actually came into the game, and I'm like, oh, shit. Like, I'm playing. But, I mean, listen, man, he came in, and immediately J.C. Tretter, again, a guy who's a leader. I think he played with A-Rod a little bit in Green Bay. You know, so he knows what it's like. And, you know, he took them immediately and talked to them through protection and things like that.

I think it was his first day, dude. I don't even think he was even in a meeting this week. Any conversation about it being a playoff game? And, like, did you feel any difference in the team's mentality or is it, you know, the cliche that everybody won their division, they got the one not done with the WON and everybody's talking about how this isn't enough, but you guys get in the playoffs for the first time in a long time. You have a chance to win the first playoff game in 24 years. Was it a different mentality going into the game or did it feel as if it was regular season game? Like,

do you feel as if your Browns team is incredibly comfortable with success at this point? It's like, hey, we got work to do. Does it feel like that? Yeah, a lot of it does feel like that. You know, a lot of it does feel like, hey, like, you know, the game's over. Celebrate for an hour, you know, and then it's like everybody got that look in their eyes again. You know, and that never satisfied type of attitude is something that is going to take. I mean, because you look, you think about teams that, you know, go on their runs and,

you know, get excited and think that they're going to win the Super Bowl and, you know, they go one in five to finish the season. You know what I'm saying? So I think for us, we got to continue to be never satisfied. And that's something that I see in every guy's eyes after the season. You know what I'm saying? So I think for us, we got to continue to be never satisfied. And that's something that I see in every guy's eyes after the game. Um, and I think that that's something to be excited for. What do you stream on Twitch?

You stream on Twitch. What do you do? Twitch, YouTube. What do you play? Call of Duty, man. Call of Duty and 2K.

Oh, you just kill people. You're just sniping people. Yeah. Yeah. You're good, huh? Yeah. Card 90 juice. That Yeah. Yeah. Taking it out on them. You're good, huh? Yeah, car 90 juice.

That's what they call me, headshot. Ooh. Yeah. Do you talk shit the entire time, too, or is it quiet? Yeah, a little bit. A little bit. A little bit. Hey.

Nobody know who I am on here, so now they do, but nobody know who I am on here, so. Hey, if you ever get in the Oculus Arena, just want to let you know that's where I battle. That's where I do battle at, in the Oculus. Huh? UFC? No, the Oculus. Virtual reality. Oh, bro. I was never a gamer. I stink. I can't control my life with two thumbs. I get car

sick in there, and I get killed immediately upon entering into any little world that you have to enter. It's a fucking terrible time. Always has been, always will be. This Oculus thing, though, I'm all in, Jarvis. You play ping pong against people from all over the world, and it feels like actual ping pong. Man, I never did it before.

I was tempted to buy one of those things, but I never did it before. Maybe I'll do it now. I gave them too much free advertising. You should fucking do it. It's unbelievable. Ty, what do you got? Jarvis, how much do you guys relish being the underdogs because it seemed like last week you know i mean you guys were obviously confident

but with all the people being out due to covid and everything no one was giving you a shot against the steelers and now it seems like it's the same thing it's like oh you know you guys are going against the defending champions and the chiefs like no one's giving you a shot how much do you guys relish uh taking that on yeah you guys are gonna get smacked or what yeah listen man listen again that's been part of the the outside perspective of the browns since i got here you know what i mean i mean obviously maybe it's been you know the thing around the browns i mean nobody really wants to play for the browns in a sense you know what i'm saying so i think when i when i got here i mean i always understood that we were going to always be the underdog. We was going to always be the team that everybody expected to, you know, lose the game or whatever it was.

So I think now that guys just don't pay attention to it, we know what we got. We know who we are and we've been ignoring the noise. And that's part of, you know, any great team. You got to ignore the noise, success or failures. Have you talked to OBJ at all? Has he been in contact? Is he in the Zoom? Does he have any contact still with the team or anything like that? Yeah, me and him talk.

Me and him talk. I'm sure he talks to other guys as well. He snipes too, right? I've seen highlights of him just killing people out there too. Yeah, he that boy. Oh, you guys are good, huh? Is he better than you? You guys battle? Yeah. Listen, man. Listen, we be are good, huh? Is he better than you? You guys battle?

Yeah. Listen, man, listen, we be on the same team. You know what I'm saying? You can't compare that. Smart. LSU. Just put the – No, Cleveland.

Smart. All you see is the wins, baby. Jarvis, we appreciate your time, man. Good luck this weekend. Thank you, brother. We really do appreciate your time when you come on here. I know you don't do a lot of interviews or whatever, so I appreciate you. No, man, I appreciate you having me on, man.

Thank you, guys, man. Keep going at it, too. I love y'all. Hey, we appreciate that. See you in the Oculus Arena, dude. I'm fucking unbeatable at ping pong on there. We don't see you, man. Hey, once again, nflauction.nfl.com

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That's awesome, Jarvis. Appreciate you, man. Jarvis Landry, ladies and gentlemen. He's really good at the football. Oh, yeah. He's an intense guy, too, I think. Yeah. Like whenever he plays or whatever. He's got to be.

I love practice, he said. And I always thought if I didn't practice, I would just like whenever he plays or whatever. He's got to be. I love practice, he said. And I always thought if I didn't practice, I would just suck. It was almost to a point where I had to dial it back as opposed to do it just because I didn't have a lot of confidence in my ability to do my job because I had just learned how to do it when I got drafted into the NFL.

There's other players. Robert Mathis, he was a guy that practiced literally every single day. I think he felt as if he had to. It was awesome to see him. And then there were some players that, like, took days off or whatever, and they still balled on Sunday. It's interesting how you've got to, like, hey, however you perform the best in games, let's go ahead and do it. Now, granted, if you do no practice and do your thing and you suck,

like, that's not going to last long. But if you show up and do your job, who cares? Hey, who cares if you're out there on Wednesday or Thursday or not? but then there's a lot of guys that feel oh the same way he does it's like need to be out there on the grass i like what he said too like you always talk about it like managing like 53 different guys like having different motivations and like everyone's got an ego everyone needs like uh you know a different way to like actually be their best and like you really don't hear that too often. Well, it's real.

Because people always, well, he's only in it for the money. It's like, well, who gives a fuck? At least he's in it. Hey, he's in it, right? Okay, hey, pal, you play better. We play better. We win. Guess what?

More money. More money. I've had a lot of those conversations with guys that played special teams around the NFL because they're getting cut from a team each week. So it's not like they're invested in the team that they're currently at. They're just like, hey, I'm just trying to make some money here. I'm like, all right, this is what we're going to do then. Hey, I just need you to just beeline right for this dude right here.

We'll take care of everything else, and let's keep you around. Sounds good. And let's get you rich, by the way. Let's get you all the fucking money. You got it. Hey, you might be all pro by the end of this whole goddamn thing. And you know how much money you're going to make doing that? A lot.

Millions, we're talking about. All right, I'll see you. And then you go to somebody else and go, that guy doesn't even know what team he's currently on, but he's going to get a lot of fucking money. And that's currently the other. Like, who cares? You know, it's kind of like an interesting thing. That Browns team, though, incredible turnaround from being a complete laughingstock of everything.

Laughingstock. Yeah. On hard knocks. Getting mocked every single Monday immediately after the hard knocks or whatever. I mean, it was very interesting. Very interesting turnaround. What's up, Diggs? You didn't ask any questions, Jarvis.

Yeah. That was weird. You asked the question that I was going to ask. What was the question? What was the question? About the Browns as the Browns. Oh, yeah. We heard it.

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I'm not on TikTok. Juju's theme song. By the way, that made its way off of TikTok. Into where we are. Music stinks. Corvette. Into where we are. Music stinks.

Corvette. Interesting that they chose Corvette Corvette to be the name of that song because there's like, what, seven to eight different titles potentially because it's just random sentences getting thrown in. Exactly. That's music, though. Great dance song, though. Unbelievable. Oh, my God.

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Ladies and gentlemen, nine-year NFL vet, drafted by the New England Patriots, played for the Colts and the Panthers. Ladies and gentlemen, host of the Man to Man podcast, Darius Buck. Hey, Bitcoin's crashing. Fellas, fellas, fellas. Bitcoin's crashing, dude. Little pullback, minor pullback. Hey. Minor pullback, Minor pullback. Hey. Minor pullback.

Still very bullish. You'll still be up, what, double? 150% since that show? Well, I mean, I do believe that would be the cash. No big deal. I watched a black card. Hey, by the way, by current, shout out to the black card from current. You pull a black card, by the way.

You look. Bang, bang. Pow. Pow. Let's talk about football. Deshaun watson okay when you and i played and i'm not saying like uh we walked up hills both ways but it feels like there has been quite a change of the tide of the way things go in the nfl the nfl has always looked at other professional sports leagues the nba mlb and notice how much the players have more say in what the hell they want to do.

And the NFL has never been like that, okay? Now it feels like the players are getting a lot more power. In Houston, we've seen a couple different situations just this year. Allegedly, J.J. Watt, in the middle of practice, told Bill O'Brien he was sick of his shit, got fired a couple days later. And now Deshaun Watson was told by Cal McNair that he would be a part of the process of the hiring and he had a couple ideas and basically he was kind of shoved out of there and then Casario was hired he he's upset about it he wants his way out this feels like a very different NFL

right now and I think this is only going to the beginning of this whole thing too for the NFL do you agree very very different NFL don't forget about about Russell Coon getting half his salary in Bitcoin as well so very very different by the way since that since that day his contract he's just playing for free yeah a couple times every other game basically free for that guy no man but yeah man players exercising their power man obviously um Deshaun Watson um you know he has he has power he has leverage um quarterback in his prime 25 years old um he is locked up got that no trade clause but he's i mean if they told him that he's going to be a part of the process i don't understand uh why not follow through with that with that guy in the position that he's in you kind of bring nick

your new gm into a rough situation. You know, he's got to smooth over, you know, with his franchise quarterback out the gate. I think he'll handle it. I think at the end of the day, he doesn't move. But if he does move, I know me and Gump will be excited about him coming down here to Miami. I forgot about your Dolphins fanhood. Diehard Dolphins fan, D-Butt.

And by the way, the Dolphins have the picks to make the move if they had to. Yeah. They have three picks within the first 35 picks of this draft already, one of them already being Houston's. If they wanted to send over two and three good picks, that would be equivalent to four number ones in about a year or whatever. And then Houston gets a lot of draft capital. They get money off their books.

They're probably going to have to cut J.J. Watt too. J.J. is probably going to be a free agent. That saves them $17 million. That, in the grand scheme of making your life easier, would be the thing. But then you immediately have to find a quarterback that is worth a single fuck because that's all you're looking for. And Deshaun Watson is that guy. I mean, that's a tough spot for Casario to get dropped into.

Yeah, because obviously we all know it's tough to find a real franchise quarterback. They have one. So it would be hell on him if he moves him. Obviously, the case is still out on Tua if he's going to be that guy or not. What do you think? What do you think? Tua? Yeah.

Honestly, I'm off the Tua train, man. I jumped off. Because Deshaun is potentially a Dolphins quarterback. Even before that, man, even before that, I said, you know, if Fields is on the board at three or one of these other quarterbacks is on the board at three. You know, part of it for me is the lefty thing. It's been a while since we've seen a dominant left-handed quarterback

in the league. You have to go all the way back to freaking, you know, Steve Young outside of, you know of Got Brunel. Brunel, dude! Vic ran it down. Mike Vic! Tim Tebow? He ran a 4-2, man. And Tua had

Chan Gailey, old Chan, calling the plays. He didn't have the greatest personnel around him. But yeah, you got to think long and hard about taking the quarterback at three because when's the next time you're going to be at three with that team that you had out there in Miami? But if we can get Deshaun, man, I know the NFL fans would love to see Deshaun and Josh Allen going at it twice a year for two years.

That would be awesome. That would be awesome. Why – and Bill Belichick. Just go ahead and mix him into the mix there. Why is the lefty quarterback thing such a thing? What is it? Is it because offenses are all tailored to right handed guys? I mean, if I'm a play caller, you know, majority of my most of my life, you know, you've been

calling plays for right handed quarterbacks. You know, you've been blocking for right handed quarterbacks of your alignment. It's just a lot of things that go into it. Two is obviously very talented. We saw him at Alabama. We just saw Alabama last night, you know, shred Ohio State. They're in the national championship every year. You know, got talent up and down that roster.

But it's a different NFL. You know, his guys were, you know, wide open. Every play at Bama. In the NFL, you know, this is wide open. So it's a different game. Moves faster. He just wasn't, it didn't seem like he was seeing it and not believing it. But that left-hand thing, I don't know, man. It's got to be something to it.

Darius played corner and safety in the NFL and nickel in the NFL. Freak athlete there. We're talking to Darius Butler, host of the Man to Man podcast. So, last night you watched Mac Jones. Do you think this guy is going to stink in the NFL? No. I wouldn't say he's going to stink, but I wouldn't be that high. I wouldn't take him in the top half of the first round.

It's hard to judge, right? You've got Devontae, who's Tyreek Hill. You've got Tyreek Hill running around, basically. You have offensive linemen that are all 6'6", bigger than everybody. Now, granted, Ohio State also has dudes, too, but I'm just talking about Alabama. Different dudes. Completely different dudes completely different dudes why is that i think we see that every year i mean it's just i mean i feel like they got it

they got to do something about them i don't know about y'all but i'm tired of seeing bam and the damn thanks every year you know saban's crown as the greatest coach of all time i mean yes guys anybody anybody on this call right now can go in there and coach that team and win 11, 12 games. I obviously called it great, but, I mean, they got to put a cap on damn five-star recruits that can get in there, man. Somebody else open up a damn checkbook. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Okay?

We can't recruit those five stars to it. I mean, I think that's a large part of it. They kind of recruit themselves at this point. Well, and also they're on national TV every single week, and there's a behind-the-scenes of Nick Saban taking his boys out on the boat. You know what I mean? And he's in the movie Blindside showing how he recruits. That's awesome.

There's a lot of inherited risk or recruiting that is happening with Saban or whatever, but you think he's done? I think he's potentially done. Saban? Yeah. Why? Why would you think that? I don't know, to be honest.

I don't know. Just for whatever reason, last night it felt like it was a different Saban situation. You know what I mean? It just feels like it. It feels like if you were Saban, too, and you ever thought about retiring, and I think we had heard rumors that he was potentially thinking about retiring or whatever. I think you win it this year. You've had this dominant run for so long.

Why not just go out on top of the world? Go out on top? I mean, yeah, he had a little fake modesty there. You know, keep talking about the two losses he had, you know, in the post-game interviews. Fake modesty. He won seven. I mean, why not go for eight, man?

He just broke Bear Bryant's record. Why not go for eight? I don't think he's done, man. It's a sweet gig. You're going to get the best recruit class for the next however many years you're there. You're going to be in the playoffs every year. Shout out to Natty every year. I mean, why leave that?

And it's different down there in the SEC. He's a god amongst a lot of people. I mean, that's a pretty good time, I'd assume, for him. Let's move back to the NFL. Doug Peterson walked into the owner's office and told him he was stupid, got fired yesterday. Now he's going to be the head coach of the Jets. That entire organization is in complete disarray right now, Deepwood.

Yeah, I thought, you know, with them, I thought he got the word from the top to pretty much tank it that last week, which would make me think he was safe going forward. So to see him get fired yesterday was surprising to me. It kind of feels like, you know, Laurie kind of chose, I guess, Wentz's and Wentz's potential, once again, going back to the power

that that quarterback has, over, you know, Peterson's potential in fixing the team. So now with Peterson out of the picture, obviously a lot of people are talking about now, you know, it's much more likely Wint stays in there. Maybe it's a quarterback competition. You know, maybe he just gets a fresh start

with a new head coach. We'll see. But yeah, it's wild over here in Philly. There's a lot of jobs right now. I would say, what, two or three of them are going to get really good coaches, and then four of them are going to have bum-ass head coaches, I'd assume.

We'll see. I mean, it's a get really good coaches, and then four of them are going to have bum-ass head coaches, I'd assume. We'll see. I mean, it's a lot of good coaches out there. It depends on who they give a real shot to. I saw Saleh was flying out. Was he flying out to New York? Yeah. Yeah, he's been there twice. He's been to the Jets twice.

Philly's looking to interview him today. He's obviously interviewed with the Lions already, but there's no way they're going to land him. No chance. Yeah. I really like Dable. Yeah, so like you said, I mean, it's a lot of good jobs out there. And, like, I think somebody said it's like five of these seven places

have, like, good, you know, quarterbacks who have experience and have shown they can play in the league. So, I mean, that's obviously the number one priority when you go into a team. In my opinion, I think that Chargers job is probably the best one with the talent that they have on that roster, with the talent they have with Herbert, that quarterback. If you can get that job, that would be the one.

And it's always sunny out there. It's beautiful out there. You know what I mean? I mean, you got to watch out for the taxes, the earthquakes. Sun tax. You got to watch out for those earthquakes, though. Mud slides. A couple fires, too.

Peas and peas everybody in california but aside from that it's awesome it is awesome out there what do you got db talking about good coaching you highlighted so eloquently on twitter this week how keith butler over and over and over decides to cover the slot receiver the number three with a linebacker keith butler steelers defensive coordinator uncle keith man yeah man they got they got to switch that up and i saw a warren sharp he went back years and years they've been doing the same thing um it's gonna happen at some point in the game whenever you call a zone defense uh nine times out of ten that middle linebacker is gonna have to you know relate

or cover that uh number whoever lined up at a number three. Typically in the old NFL for years and years and years, the number three person is usually a running back or a tight end. But now, as we all know, guys move around more than ever. So they put Landry at three. So it's going to happen. First, second down, I can see it. But third and two, game on the line, you need a stop.

You need a chance to get the ball back and score some points. You can't in no situation call that play. Like as a defensive coordinator, the only information you have is is a field position. You got the offensive personnel. You got the down the distance. So, you know, it's 13 personnel is one wide receiver on the field. So I got to make a man to man call to get one of my cover guys on Jarvis Landry in that situation. But that was that was that was egregious. Bro, Bob Spokane did not deserve that. Come on.

30 years. My question, DB, is like as a leader on the defense, like if you were at safety, could you be like, hey, this isn't going to work. Like look at Bob. Look at Landry. We got no chance here. Last night, 0-32 on Devonta. Is there any thoughts? Oh, my God. chance here. Last night, 0-32 on Devontae. Is there any thoughts?

Oh, my God. Poor guy. That poor guy. How about two times that guy got interneted last night. They walk out for the coin toss where a giant was on the other side, and then he's next to Devontae Smith just running to go right by him, and he's supposed to chase him and not give up, by the way, because if he gives up,

and then you see him mentally give up in the middle of that. Yeah. That was tough. But isn't there some decisions that should be made by, I guess it's hard just to look at your coach, though, who has been around a long time and be like, no, we're not going to run that. Yeah, I mean, that's tough. And on that video, Tyron Matthew, he commented on, like, you know,

he was like, or you can have the safety who can kind of unwind that for you. But it's tough when you send in a zone call, you know, he was like, or you can have the safety who can kind of unwind that for you. But it's tough when you send in a zone call, you know, you know, you see how quick it comes in. Guys got to get lined up. So if it's a zone call, it's hard to change those zone rules and get some type of man alignment, especially when he's lined up at that number three position, which is closer to the quarterback. So if it was some type of man call and maybe it would be easy for that safety to say, hey, you switch, but you can't put Spillane back in the post either. So it's a tough situation to adjust if you're a safety on that field in that situation.

They just need to put Spokane's hand in the dirt. Put him down in the dirt. He's got that neck. Just go ahead and let him eat. You know what I mean? They've been putting backers on slot receivers for 30 years. Yeah, slot receivers get a lot faster these days. A lot faster these days.

Like Wes Welker was an absolute animal. I agree. Wes Welker, absolute animal. Wes Welker ain't running a 4-3, though. That's where a lot of those slot receivers, by the way, had to be a little bit bigger back in the day. Not bigger, but stockier because they're going to take big shots. Now there's no rules.

Like, you guys, the little guys can really eat in the slot nowadays. Yeah, I mean, it's just bad ball, man. You got to know your personnel. Landry has been one of the best since he's come to the league at moving the sticks, at beating, you know, guys on those type of routes. Cornerbacks, nickelbacks, everybody. So if you put poor Spillane out there, he damn sure don't have a chance. So that's just bad ball all around, man.

I understand the frustration from the Steelers fans. Well, there's a lot of it. But we'll talk to Jarvis. Right, Foxy? Yeah, Foxy, big-time Steelers fan. We will talk to Jarvis at 125 about his thoughts when he saw Bob Spokane line up against him. You got Connor?

Darius. The Cowboys just hired Dan Quinn. Do you think he's the guy to go into Dallas and fix that defense, or are they just going down the tubes in these next few years? I mean, he's got a good resume when it comes to calling defenses. So it should look better. They've got to get some better personnel, and they're starting up front in that interior. It'll be better than what nolan had out there this year i'll tell you that

much i don't i don't know i don't know look dan quinn's defenses ranking from 2020 back okay so we'll go from most recent when he got fired all the way back 2020 they were ranked 29th 2019 this one is he was a dc or head coach i mean he's the head coach but he probably has his hands on defense right don't you think or no yeah i mean we had chuck chuck was a d you know he but he didn't have much you know monuski was calling the play so it's kind of a okay unless he's calling the plays with that sheet in his hand glasses tilted i can't really put it on him but i would i would definitely like to hear these stats though no no because i mean if he's not I assumed he had his hands in it.

But if you're saying – because I thought Chuck had his hands in it a little bit, too, and then you're saying, like, no, not really. Yeah, no, not really. So, like, when I played in New England, like, it was times where Belichick would take over play calling. It's times when certain coaches would take over play calling. Sometimes it's full time. Sometimes they split it. But unless the guy... Sometimes

you give that whole right to the defensive coordinator in the play calling. Let him call it. Alright, Tua. Get the fuck off. Fitz Magic's coming. Here we go. Could you imagine I own a team? Two minute drill. Give me the fucking headset. Getting rid of a timeout. I got

their sheet. Deep. Bring the magic of timeout, I got the sheet. Deep. Bring the magic. It's absolutely deep. That would be wild. So Belichick would just flip over sometimes and be like, all right, go ahead and take a fucking seat real quick. Matt, Patricia, go ahead and put that number two pencil right in your mouth.

All right, here's what we're going to do. That's wild. It makes sense, by the way, because he's Bill Belichick. But then, I don't know, it's an interesting situation. What do you have, Connor? I was also going to ask Darius what you thought about Sala being the Jets' head coach this year. I like it. I like it, man. If you're going to keep Darnold, you've got to get a good offensive play caller.

But Sala is a great defensive mind. I would assume he would keep the play-calling duties on defense. And sometimes that's the best situation. You saw I have worked so well with New England for so long. You know, obviously Belichick been a head coach, been a defensive guy. He just kept good offensive coordinators coming in and out of that organization. So something like that could happen in New York. They finally got Gase out of there.

And maybe the same thing could happen in L.A. You know, you allow a good play caller to call the plays for Justin Herbert. Keep old Pep Hamilton as his QB coach. And just take care, full care of that defense and make sure that defense is firing on all cylinders. And, you know, let the offensive play callers do what they do. Whenever you talk about good play callers, McVay, right? McVay kind of set the tone for these young offensive wizards. McVay got a lot of people jobs.

I don't know how many Christmas gifts they're sending McVay, but a lot of people should be sending shit to McVay's house over there with that pool and that dog and everything we saw during hard knocks or whatever. He benched Goff. Nobody else is going to say it. Go ahead and say it. He benched Goff. Nobody else is going to say it. Yeah, go ahead and say it. He benched Goff on Sunday in lieu of Wolford.

And the Wolf was getting loose, obviously. He ended up in an ambulance, T's and P's. We hope everything recovers well for the Wolford. But then Goff goes out, does everything that you would need to do to be a starting quarterback. McVay didn't dial back any plays. He was still throwing the ball down the field. And then this week they're saying, you know, we're not announcing a starter or whatever.

Is Goff's time done? And if you're playing against Goff, does he scare you at all other than the fact that he can make every throw? He doesn't scare me. He doesn't scare me. But Sean McVay does a great job of putting him in good situations where his reads are there. And he's made throws. He did get his team to the Super Bowl. He's made throws.

But like you said, in my opinion, I agree with you. He was benched because we know everybody's playing through some shit when it comes to the playoffs. And if he can get out there and come in and relief duty, he can come out there and start. So he doesn't scare me necessarily as a defense. He will be, you know, as a team, I would say, their defense is the scariest thing about their team. But he does have good weapons around him, great yak guys with Cup and Woods.

And he does a great job of dialing it up, man. He doesn't scare me, though. How about Jalen? Doesn't scare me. Jalen Ramsey at about 20 miles an hour. Man. Jumping up, floating, and just batting balls around people. Not touching them. No pass interference somehow.

He's number one right now, huh? Incredible athlete. X-Hour had to be number one for me this year just because his ball production and his cover skills this year, which we'll have him on the man-to-man pod today. Hey! Here we go. Here we go. But Jalen Ramsey, man, he's right up there too.

Not only what he does on the outside, but he has the ability to move on the inside and play a high, high level of football. Very talented athlete. Came in college playing safety. He brought a whole different – and a lot of times you see a guy get that paycheck and kind of take a year, maybe a year and a half off. He got that 20-a-year, set the bar, and he's raised his level of play all over the field, raised the level of play of that defense.

So that whole secondary, that whole defense has been balling from wire to wire, man. So I'm excited to see them go out this weekend. It's nice to have a D-line that has Aaron Donald on it too. I'd assume he's in the secondary. But I saw Jalen. I saw the house he was looking at in L.A. during hard knocks. He's going to need another contract. I mean, that thing is gorgeous.

And he's going to get it, by the way. Oh, yeah. He's unbelievable to watch. Him and Devontae should be a hell of a battle this weekend. What do you got to say? Yeah, D-butt, that's what I wanted to ask about. Obviously, Jalen kind of – I mean, DK Metcalf had the touchdown, but outside of that, Jalen kind of handled him. How do you see the matchup with him and Devontae Adams going on Saturday?

Man, it's going to be good on good, man, great on great. They're both at the top of the game. When you've got a quarterback like A-Rod, though, you've got to give – especially with the rules, you've got to give the edge to that matchup. If they're one-on-one, I would give the edge to the offensive guys almost every time. But Jalen, I think, is going to make his fair share of plays. I think, honestly, those bigger receivers like DK are a better matchup for Jalen. I saw Jalen struggle a little bit, like TY early on in his career got him a couple times.

But you have those shifty guys like Devontae Adams. He's a bigger body, but, got him a couple times. When you have those shifty guys like a Devontae Adams, he's a bigger body, but he moves like a small guy. His catch radius is crazy, like a big guy. And then you've got a guy like Rodgers who can put the ball literally anywhere. So if they leave him, you know, one-on-one and trust him to just, you know, be good on good, I think stat sheet-wise, Devontae will win that battle. But if we're watching the game, you know, Jalen will have –

he'll make his fair share of plays. And if he gets – he picks one off, takes one to the crib, you know, will win that battle. But if we're watching the game, Jalen, he'll make his fair share of plays. And if he picks one off, takes one to the crib, he wins the battle. So we'll see. I'm excited about that, though. Hey, D-Butt, can't wait to listen to you and Xavier and Howard. That will be on the Man to Man podcast with Antoine Bethea tomorrow. Thank you for joining us, boss man. You're the best.

Appreciate you, fellas. Ladies and gentlemen, Terry Clark. Some breaking news happened while D-Bot was talking to us. The Oakland Raiders have hired a defensive coordinator. That defensive coordinator's name is Gus Bradley. They put up a photo from their Twitter account of Kevin Wisenhunt. Which is not Gus Bradley. Shout out to the Las Vegas Raiders.

We all get yelled at for calling them the Oakland Raiders every once in a while. We're not the Oakland Raiders. We're the Las Vegas Raiders. Well, that's not Gus Bradley. That's Wizenhunt. So it's an awesome moment to be a Raiders fan, I'd assume. Gus Bradley is a guy that is beloved by all the players that have ever played for him. I got a chance to play against him whenever he was the head coach of the Jags.

He always came over and said what's up to me. He was always very nice. Seemed to have a lot of respect. Good for the Raiders. Who knows how their season's going to go, but their social media and their internet needs to figure it the fuck out. You can't slap Gus Bradley in the mouth on day one if you're coming in there, but hey,

that's the Raider way, baby. Let's keep it moving. Winston Hunt was the OC for the Chargers while Gus Bradley was the DC. They're like, ah, we hired one of them coordinators down there. Got one of them white guys. Yeah, it's the coordinator for Chargers. What did the person just Google? Chargers coordinator?

Exactly. First one to pop up, Winston Hunt. Social media coordinator probably had quite a night at Caesars Palace last night. Allegedly, Marquise Ponce is going to plan to retire. Anthony Costanzoo left tackle of the Indianapolis Colts has retired after a 10-year career I got a chance to be teammates with him he is an awesome dude incredibly intelligent he and I went on a USO tour the name of the show is right over his face right now he and I went on a USO tour to Japan together alongside Chuck Pagano

DeQual Jackson Mike Adams and Matt and Matt Conte, the Colts PR guy. We had an incredible time, got to learn a lot about him. He's a guy who's incredibly intelligent, caring, has a great personality, and whenever he gets into football, becomes an absolute lunatic. I'm excited to see what he does going forward. I assume there's a lot of stress leaving his life because of how serious he took football. He was awesome, and he only got better as he got older. He ended the year with an injury or whatever. I'm very happy to say I was teammates with him. I knew him.

And the Paizon from Chicago who has a restaurant in Chicago. Really? Yeah, his family has a restaurant up there. I hope that's doing okay in this whole thing. Congratulations on a job well done. Big Godzilla Anthony Costanza. There's a couple videos I had that I had to get rid of.

We went on a trip to USO, or to Japan for the USO tour or whatever. And at night, we just went out. We had a good time. Over there, he was actually getting called Godzilla. And it was awesome because he was three times the size about everybody over there. There was cars over there that were tiny. Him obviously sneaking into them. It was amazing. He size of about everybody over there. There was cars over there that were tiny. Him obviously sneaking into them. It was amazing.

He was so cool about it all. Congrats on a hell of a career. And he's made a lot of money, so good for him. I can't wait to see what he does next. Scored the elusive lineman touchdown, too, during that career. And had been calling for more. Really? Yeah, because of how athletic he was.

Tight end. He's a great athlete. I forget what it was. I think he's a great athlete he only i forget what it was i think he wanted he wanted to run a play i forget what it was exactly where they just threw it at the uprights because he's six foot seven massive dude and he could jump like he was a great athlete it's like you're you're a tackle there so if we do that we have to move you out of tackle we have to make you eligible uh or whatever we have to do a whole thing so he didn't get as many opportunities but when he did get his chance caught the ball did a celebration i assume you nerds know what is it uh i don't know exactly

it was a pokemon or something like that okay he did some sort of anime dance i believe oh it is circulated around the internet today because he got one chance to score and he absolutely crushed it i will say that i was also lobbying for more touchdowns from Costanzo when I was on the team. Congrats to him. Happy he is. Hopefully he's happy with his decision. I'd assume he is. He did the Pokemon slide.

That's what you're thinking of, I believe. I don't know. Fun fact. You want to know his middle name? Pison. Salvatore. Same thing. Sally.

Pretty close. Literally just. Was that Sao Palantano? Yeah. It's a crab Pokemon. He did. It was a crab Pokemon back and forth. See, the internet's telling me it was a Street Fighter dance. Whoa.

Maybe it was Street Fighter, by the way. Maybe I got it wrong. Street Fighter is the Heidi Dukin? Mm-hmm. Apparently, according to NFL.com, it was the Dhalsim dance from Street Fighter 2. Okay. Is that this thing? Is that one of these things?

Yep. I guess. Oh, yeah. Nailed it. See, I know all Fighter 2. Okay. Is that this thing? Is that one of these things? I guess. Oh, yeah. Nailed it. See, I know all those things. Yeah, you play. Dance with me. Dance with me. Yeah!

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and win a Super Bowl with the Green Bay Packers. Oh, shit. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now, Mr. A.J. Hawk. A to the J. A to the J. What's going on? Did you see there was some breaking news an hour ago when Aaron joined the show? He will be guest hosting an episode of Jeopardy.

Are you kidding me? An episode of Jeopardy. That's awesome. That's huge news. The internet is a buzzing about it, AJ. Are they really? Is it truly big news? Oh, yeah.

Biggest news out of the conversation by far. Talked about the CIA releasing some alien stuff. That's doing okay. But him announcing, and by the way, we're very thankful that he did this, announcing that he will be guest hosting an episode of Jeopardy. Crushing on you. The Jeopardy people were all pumped about it. Sports

people were pumped about it because we don't look like stooges anymore. Like, hey, in the Nerd Super Bowl that we all watch every single night and don't get any questions right, we got one of us going in there who's been good and hosts. Big shout out to that. And also, in honor of one of his idols

and guys he looked up, Alex Trebek. I just think it's a really good story. People are loving it, AJ. Loving it. I mean, it will be interesting. I'm sure he'll love it because he loves Jeopardy, but can you really, I don't know, like, can you really show your personality or do anything when you're the host talked about this off air ken jennings i watched last night he did a great job but that show is has a formula where unless you're incredibly quick and um what's that called

whenever you get to the point quickly uh so direct yeah yeah if unless you're a succinct and and very quick-witted i think trebek why he was so good is because he could bury somebody within what a 15th of a second and it would be with three words and then he would just move the show right along so or he'd compliment or something like that like i think that is why trebek was so, I think, beloved by everybody because it always seemed so effortless. It seemed so genuine, and it was always so quick. And I think Ken Jennings last night did a good job hosting. He led off with an emotional thing.

But there's only a few moments in the show where you can really, I think, take it and we'll see. I think Aaron's going to crush it. I think Aaron's going to absolutely. Even in the way you say the answer was right or wrong, you could see like trebek the way he goes no like you know like that type of thing like there's aaron there's a lot of little things that big jeopardy fans will be expecting i assume uh in their judgment of how he does i think he's going to crush it absolutely slaughter it he'll do great i i'm just curious i can't wait to see when he they ask the question

or he puts it out there and they don't nobody knows and nobody buzzes in but he knows the answer and he just cannot believe that people don't realize like are you kidding are you guys idiots like i want to know how he holds himself back ken jennings had a couple no's last night where it was come on there there is a couple uh well it's amateur hours it almost felt like that it was uh i i'm a wheel of fortune guy myself but it's i appreciate aaron breaking that news uh let's talk about something that's very near and dear to you uh not a lot of humans have had the opportunity to participate in the national championship game not a lot of humans have had a opportunity to participate in a national championship game as an ohio Buckeye. You've done both.

You've won in that situation. Ohio State fans realized they were going to lose that game last night, or was there real optimism after what happened against Clemson, you think, in your eyes, as somebody that lives in the Columbus area still to this day? I think there was a ton of optimism after the Clemson game. There really was. That's a heartbreaker. Yeah, it is.

It's tough. You can tell it was back and forth early on and Trey Sermon going out right off the bat on his first carry was tough, but Master Teague looked good. He came in and ran the ball hard. He's a good player, but then they weren't able to stop Alabama, but guess what? Nobody has stopped

Alabama's offense all year long. The fewest points they scored was 31 against Notre Dame in the semifinals. Alabama, they're just on a different level right now and I think Ohio State should be pumped with what they accomplished by the way they were one of the leading voices alongside some uh prestigious alumni in bringing Big Ten football back obviously we're talking about the since retired general Bob Carpenter who kind of put his sword down after getting Big Ten football back and didn't really fight for much else. You know what I mean?

There's a couple other things he could have went to war for and he didn't. He won his battle. He won his battle getting football back. But the 28-day thing, I think Bob could have went to battle for. He didn't have the ammunition. The no moving of games until moving games, I think he could have. But Bob was tired after a hard-fought war to get Big Ten football back. But I think Ohio State, what they did this this year that was a hell of a football nobody expected

them to beat Clemson the way they did okay Northwestern gave them some problems Indiana gave them some problems but they were still very young in their season whenever they had those mishaps which happens to some teams we forget they started six weeks after everybody else or whatever that team I think with a full season I think they would have been a very very very good football team they were just learning about Trey Sermon in the last couple weeks basically I mean it was if they had three more weeks four more games I think they become an even better team you know oh absolutely now you got to figure out how to replace uh Justin Fields but didn't you hear like Bill O'Brien is already on his way to become the next offensive coordinator for Alabama yeah I knew that a week ago I think which not a big news breaking show should have probably

just dropped it in you know what I mean like at some point we know O'Brien's going to Alabama or whatever so who's gonna where's Gase gonna go because the conversation was either Bill O'Brien or Gase are going down to be the offense coordinator we had a good source two of them that told us, no, Bill O'Brien's basically got that job down there. So we could have went public with that, chose not to, because if we're wrong, you're gone. You know, you're wrong, you're gone in the insider game.

But him going down there, Alabama's just going to keep the train rolling, bub. I don't know. Is there ever going to be a team, as long as Nick Saban wants to do this thing, is there ever going to be a team, you think, that is going to be able to consistently just dominate Alabama? I'm not sure. Clemson was supposed to be that team. Trevor Lawrence was supposed to be that guy because they win whenever he's young.

Is there ever going to be a team, as long as Nick Saban wants it? Like, do you think Ohio State next year, if they figure out a way to replace Fields, which I assume they will be able to, they get five-star quarterback after five-star quarterback. Joe Burrow was fifth string at one point there. Do you think there's a chance that Ohio State could get to that level of national championship to dethrone Alabama of the world for a consistent basis if Nick Saban stays down there? Well, I mean, I don't know how much longer Nick Saban's going to stay. I think it's safe to say as long as he is there, Alabama's going to be in the mix.

Like, they're going to always be contending for the national championship. Now, I think Ohio State, yeah, they're set up absolutely to continue to challenge them to become the national champion. I don't know, man. Like, Alabama's so deep. They have so many studs, like, at every level. They have so much team speed. Like, their D-line.

Didn't their D-line get defensive players of the game, too? Like, they have some guys that just – they just have guys that aren't even human, it seems like, how they move so well. It's impressive, man. And they have the culture of guys, like, when they get their opportunity, they want to go. Like, I was fourth string or whatever behind blah, blah, blah, and this is a five-star guy who's like, I got a chance to learn.

Like, this year's my year. Now I get a chance to go. It's like there's a lot of pride in that. Like, okay, it's my turn. As opposed to transferring and getting playing time right now. It feels like somehow they've created that culture in that building too where it's like the guys are willing to

compete, willing to stick around. And then when it's their chance to go, they fucking go. And it's never going to end. I don't know how you recreate that if nick's not there the backup running back for alabama came in after naja harrison he was unbelievable he was running guys over and it was like wow they have another all probably uh all-american running back right behind him it's just wild well you remember uh i don't know yeah trent richardson would get like spelled and then derrick henry yeah. And there was pictures of Derek Henry.

Eldon, TJ Helf. And they would come in and it was like a fourth quarter. And they're like, oh yeah, by the way, next year we got this guy. This guy's coming next year. Kenyon Drake. It is just a never ending thing. You're right. I wonder how long Saban's got.

Why not just go ahead and go out on top? Come on. Because he's a coach. What else does he have to sit there and watch the weather channel? Like he doesn't. He's a coach. Like coaches coach. Can you imagine nick saban getting up with no schedule she's like miss terry his wife like hey what are you gonna do today nick i don't know maybe just sip some coffee out on the porch you want to hang out with me maybe read the paper i'm gonna get on the boat yeah what's that if i if i know saban he's gonna announce that

it's his last year before the season, and then he's going to take his bucket. Is that a Saban move? Yeah, for sure. Really? I didn't know that. He'll say he's not leaving, and then he'll quit right before the season. He did do that to the Dolphins.

I think we're all pretty pumped about it. You got B-Flow out of that, by the way, in Alabama. Got like six championships or five championships or whatever. Saban can do consulting, too. Consulting business is just booming. Everybody's going to pay for Saban's brain. He's got tubes on that boat, too. Yeah.

On that speedboat. That's right. I mean. Grandkids, maybe. You forget, dude. What? What do I forget? That there's life after football, but not for coaches.

It feels like those coaches that I want to die blowing the whistle. Yeah. They want to die blowing the whistle. They want to die with the clicker in their hand in their office. They want the head coach to walk in or another coach to walk in, if you are the head coach, and see him dead, clicker in your hand, and the film is actually stopped because this guy, before he died, he stopped the film. This man was found clicker in hand.

And this is at the funeral. Another coach coached until his dying breath. That is what we should all aim to be in this building. And all the coaches would be like, yeah, 15 hour days away. Amen. Amen. Coaches are just a different breed, man. They are a different breed of humans out there. Their life is, yeah, it's just unbelievable.

John Gruden started waking up at 4 a.m. Fired football coaches of America or something. And they're like, John, what are you watching? Everything, man. Just what? Just everything. Every game that's ever happened, I'm watching film. It's like, what?

That is what you're doing right now? Some coaches, I think, try whenever they get fired or they still have contracts. They try to become professional golfers. You know, like, I'll just take the money from this team that's paying me. I got three more years on my contract. I'll just golf for the next three years. I assume they get, what, 27 holes into that? They're like, I ain't fucking doing this.

Where's the stakes? I got to go get free. Like Butch Jones, for instance. Butch Jones, he was our coach at West Virginia. He was a wide receiver coach. We called him Mini Rod because he was like Rich Rod, but younger, same energy, same enthusiasm, everything like that. He was always very nice to me.

He ran the punt team. He was really cool. Guys liked him, but we called him Mini Rod. Then he goes to Central Michigan or something like that. Then he goes to Tennessee. Then he gets fired from Tennessee. Now he's an assistant at Alabama. Last night he was just hanging out on the sideline.

He used to be a head coach in numerous places. He's just chilling on that Alabama sideline like, I'm getting paid from another team in the SEC, and I'm down here just winning national – I got rings now, and I'm just hanging out. And then I'll go get another head coaching job whenever the fuck I want. It's just – it's a wild thing they got cooking down there. Yeah, he's taking the Arkansas State job.

He got a bunch of FaceTime last night. They showed him talking to Ryan Day before the game. And you're like, okay, if you didn't know, Mike Butch Jones doesn't have a headset on. I know he's a consultant. I don't think he might not be allowed to wear one. I don't know. Yeah, he did not have a headset on.

There was a lot of interacting going on. I'm like, all right, Butch, look at you mixing it up out there. And, by the way, that's how I remembered he's a consultant. I don't think he might not be allowed to wear one. I don't know. Yeah, he did not have a headset on it. There was a lot of interacting going on. I'm like, all right, Butch, look at you mixing it up out there. And by the way, that's how I remembered he was there. I completely forgot he was just working, you know, for free down there basically. He said, come on down. We'll kind of rehab you, send you out, get a couple national championships, and we get another head coach. Bill O'Brien, come on in.

There you go. All right, we'll pay you. Same treatment. Win a couple national championships, and we'll send you out. Lane Kiffin, come on in. There you go. All right, we'll pay you. Same treatment. Win a couple national championships, then we'll send you out. Lane Kiffin, come on in. We'll build you back up, then we'll send you out. Dave Hull was there. Hey, come on in.

We'll build you up, send you out. Kirby. Kirby Smart. Yeah, all of them, basically. Come on in, we'll send you out. If you're a coach, you're trying to get to Alabama as much as possible. It's like, yo, I will live in my car, dude. Can I just?

It feels like this is a fast track to a head coaching game. I did not know Butch was going to Arkansas State. Yeah, he's been – they said it last night on the broadcast. Is that the Red Wolves, dude? Oh, yeah. They lost to Coastal Carolina week one, college football. I know that because I bet on the Red Wolves strictly so I could howl on college game day.

That's a good thing. They are normally a covering machine. Arkansas State. I thought he would have got a bigger school. Oh, is the Saban Rub Rubbin' Donald? He's already got the ring. He's already got Saban. Sark just got Texas. Oh, true, true.

Very true. Hook him. He really, like, rehabbed his whole image. I mean, his ouster at USC was weird. Okay. We remember. The way you have to word that he's a great a booze bag he's not anymore no i know but i'm saying he everyone loves a comeback story and

sark was the man last night like everything that he got so much good pub because it's true like he knows how to he knows how to call plays offensively that's for sure everything he called worked all year the the 31 points you said earlier every literally from i think week two when i was watching as much college football as possible, and you started seeing the motions, and as soon as they sent somebody in motion, okay, Mac Jones would just diagnose the defense, and then he understood the offense enough to know what was going to be wide open. They didn't miss on much all year.

I mean, it was immediately from jump almost. That Alabama team was just humming because there's so many weapons there. And if Sarkisian can take that to Texas, you've got to have a quarterback and you've got to have, what, six five-stars at many different positions? Just about. If you can recruit, I don't know, a great quarterback and five

five-stars that are all going to pan out and be studs in one class, you can turn that place right back around. Sark can be hooking them all over the goddamn place. The quarterback that came in that replaced Ellinger in the bowl game was ten times better than Sam Ellinger was. That was a tough out for Sam Ellinger. All those years were bad.

The whole thing that happened out there. Hook him though, dude. Hook him. He loved that. They're coming after their pilfering Luke Fickle's staff. Marcus Freeman, their coordinator, just became Notre Dame's coordinator a couple days ago. Yeah, I saw that. So that means Luke's leaving?

No, Luke's there. But I'm saying, you know, when you win, they come after your staff. That's another hard thing. David's been able to do, like, all the turnover, bringing new coaches in because they're all getting hired away. That's another part of coaching people don't think about. Don't want to hear it, dude. Just go down to your internet and turn it up.

It's not on my site close out of we talked to aaron okay in lambo in the basement it looked like yeah completely clear good internet yeah i'm this issue is not on my side right in the middle of it bro i. Right in the middle of it, bro. I don't know what to tell you, bud. You don't have to say anything. You just got to go down there and turn that fucking thing up. How many devices do you have connected to this router? Jeez Louise, dude. 18.

One. Just this. We'll call you back during the break, dude. But I think it's probably on our side. I mean, we do like three, four a day. Normally the only one is yours that doesn't work. It probably on our side. I mean, we do like three, four a day. Normally, the only one is yours that doesn't work. It's on his side. I'm saying something's going on out there in the universe.

Something's happening to where they're slowing this dream down. Oh, you're talking about the CIA releasing all the documents. You're talking about the aliens just doing this all over the planet Earth and us finding out about it. It's possible. That's awesome. Aaron would be an alien, wouldn't he? Yeah.

If we were to pick human aliens, he would be one that we would say, this guy seems to not be human. Oh, yeah. Yeah, he's a hybrid. Hybrid. Oh. Which, by the way,

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I am very, very grateful for. You can follow along, youtube.com forward slash the Pat McAfee show. Be a friend, tell a friend. Let's go ahead and grow this goddamn thing. Shout out to Ty giving away

the hashtag end of pod squad money. And we'll be back, Mignon, another big show. You're the best. Be a friend. Tell a friend. Have a great Tuesday. Ty,

please play some independent music and propel these people into a gorgeous Tuesday evening. សូវាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្វាប់បានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបាូវាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប� Thank you. សូវាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្វាប់បានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបា Bye.