The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 332 - Urban Meyer To Jacksonville, Justin Jefferson, Darius Slay, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: January 14, 2021

On today's show, Pat and the boys react to the news broken by friend of the program Michael Lombardi that Urban Meyer to Jacksonville is essentially a done deal, who he might bring in to fill out his coaching staff, if Shad Khan is going to retain roster control, if Trevor Lawrence will be his QB, and everything else going on in the league as we approach the Divisional Round of the playoffs. Joining the show is a man who broke the rookie receiving record, Pro Bowler, All-Pro, potential Rookie of the Year and friend of the program, Justin Jefferson. Pat and Justin chat about his first season in the NFL, what he's working on this offseason, if he trains with other top WR's, his relationship with Kirk Cousins, how he was so successful this year, and whose Griddy is worse, Kirk or Adam Thielen (21:36-45:09). Next, 3x Pro Bowler, All-Pro, CB for the Philadelphia Eagles, Darius Slay joins the show to chat with Pat and AJ about his time in Detroit, what it was like coming to Philadelphia, if the locker room was aware of everything going on behind the scenes, who the toughest WR in the league to defend is, playing against Aaron Rodgers for 7 years, and much more (48:25-1:06:20). Lastly, Pat and AJ chat about a declassified document that brings to light some new alien news, who the Eagles next Head Coach might be, and look ahead to this weekend's games (1:20:39-1:37:03). Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow and listen every day on Mad Dog Radio, Sirius XM Channel 82. We appreciate you all for listening, come and laugh with us, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello, it is Thursday, January 14th. Good show today. Let's get to it. Urban Meyer has been hired by the Jacksonville Jaguars. They have come to an agreement. Our guy, Michael Lombardi, dropped a Lombo Bombo this morning saying that you can go ahead and lock that one in. Now, all the insiders are trying to get this scoop, but now Urban Meyer will be headed down to Jacksonville. There's allegedly a couple names popping up for the GM position. They've been meeting for a month or so, I guess, so we've only heard about a couple meetings.

I assume they're on that yacht more than once together. What was Urban talking to Shad Khan about? Was it about the control factor? Was it about who gets to make the roster cuts? Is it about how the operation is run? Or is it a mutual agreement on the money? Is it a money thing? Nobody will ever ever know i assume that won't come out hopefully this works out for duval because they have the number one overall pick they got like 75 million dollars in cap space they got a new head coach they got two pools in their stadium is this gonna be the biggest and

best times of the jacksonville Jaguars organization's existence. They get 11 draft picks in a 2021 draft, including number one and seven in the first four rounds, north of $75 million in the 2021 cap space. And they have a guy who everybody is thinking is recruiting a lot of very well-known NFL coaches to join him down there, as he doesn't have much experience at all in the NFL. A lot of college football coaches have come into the men's league and completely failed. Some have had a lot of success. What will Urban Meyer be? Will he be able to remain healthy enough to coach Jacksonville to a Super Bowl?

TBD, we shall see. Also, the Detroit Lions hired a general manager. None of us have ever fucking heard of him. How's he going to do? Nobody knows. Chris Spielman makes his first move as the advisor of the Lions. The Steelers have fired Randy Fickner. Not fired, sorry.

Did not extend Randy Fickner's contract, which has expired in March or will expire in March to be the offensive coordinator for the Pittsburgh Steelers. Also, offensive line coach was let go. And Tom Bradley, formerly of Penn State for a long, long time, the DB's coach on the defensive side of the ball, he will was let go. And Tom Bradley, formerly of Penn State for a long, long time, the DB's coach on the defensive side of the ball, he will be let go. Keith Butler, defensive coordinator, he's going to rework his contract to be a year-to-year contract. What will this do for the offensive side of the ball with the Steelers

with Randy Fichtner moving on? Will they hire from within and Ben Roethlisberger sticks around? Or will a new offense come in and you can go ahead and bank on Ben Roethlisberger sticks around or will a new offense come in and you can go ahead and bank on Ben Roethlisberger not coming back high implications in Pittsburgh but moves are being made speaking of moves being made James Harden was traded yesterday to the Brooklyn Nets now that move came hours after our guy Toneiggs, announced that this trade was going to happen. Now, when he announced it, it came from a fake troll account, Mr. Barry McCaulkner. But maybe Barry and Tone knew something that we all didn't.

And although Tone apologized in the end, he had to feel pretty redeemed. At Tone Diggs, big breaking news day for you yesterday. The COVID cowboy seems to have hopped right apologized in the end, he had to feel pretty redeemed. At Tone Diggs, big break in Newsday for you yesterday. The COVID cowboy seems to have hopped right back in the saddle. You hung that hat up yesterday because you thought you got got, but instead you were ahead of the times. It wasn't a Lombo bomb. It was a COVID cowboy riding to the promised land. Now, granted, they did not trade Kyrie Irving,

and it was much, much, much different than what you explained, but inevitably James Harden goes to Brooklyn. You're taking a victory lap on your horse, I'd assume. 1,000% correct. When you're in this news-breaking world, as I've been for some time now, you realize when there's smoke, there's fire. And sometimes you have to trust sources that aren't the normal sources. And WeedKiller 69 was a source that i in fact trusted and even though it wasn't a standard source that people normally get their

information from i decided to run with and it turned out being correct now i will say you do dive deep into the weeds for the sources okay yesterday ultra weed hater was one of your sources and although got a couple aspects of the trade wrong completely wrong still got the overall move hardened to brooklyn now did not add in you know the pacers getting involved in cleveland getting involved and everything like that so you missed a couple key elements but you guys saw the foundation of what was being built in the possibilities ahead so look i don't think you had to apologize. I mean, you definitely did at the time, but I do like that you took a victory lap afterwards. Now,

other deep dives into sources. Somebody rubbed your hand. I was warming up my hands. Is there smoke? It sounded like you literally went right into it. No, no, no worries. I think you're pretty excited about this. This show, okay, this show, a lot of people, you know, this show is by far the worst sports show there is.

We know that. The show stinks. All right? The show does stink. We don't have, you know, like, block time for pre-show meetings. Okay? It's not like we sit around a table and we graph out what's going to happen. Like, that does

not happen with this show it's very different than a lot of other shows okay and now we're seeing other shows that are coming into our world in the way they operate we are much different than a lot of shows we are lowering slowly now i got a chance to experience somebody espn obviously whenever i got to go on get up with the legend mike greenberg the way they operate their show and college game day i've gotten a chance to kind of see how they go. Those shows are, you know, like institutional-like shows. Our show is nothing like those shows. Nothing like them. Thank God.

I got a chance to go to WWE, do the way WWE does stuff. Our show, nothing like WWE shows. Okay? But I do believe this show, okay, I feel like we know if it's on the Internet, I am on my phone all day every day as are the boys i feel like we have the deepest dive of rolodex of shit that we look into to go ahead and form our thoughts and opinions because we don't want to speak out of our ass right right yeah and i feel like we we have a real passion for that because it's our jobs like hey now granted

connor says some very dumb things that are nowhere near true on a very regular basis. Sure. But he also says some things that are very, very accurate. You know, you kind of got to count all of his hacks into his batting average. But he seems to potentially have the lowest batting average, but he's going home runs. A lot of us very focused on staying within the know. Now, granted, I don't watch a lot of, you know, like TV stuff. But if it's on the Internet, I feel like I know a good bit about it.

Diggs takes a lot of pride in this as well. People don't know this. Diggs comes in in the morning. He has his like little coffee. He has his computer. He's going through everything. He's a different worker than I am. He likes to write things out and everything like that.

Diggs yesterday deep dive into the Pittsburgh fucking Post-Gazette, okay? Our hometown newspaper, so it was something he's probably read for a long time. And he reads an article that is intriguing to all of us about future moves for the Steelers because we talk about the Steelers on the show. By the way, Steelers were one of the big storylines, and we got numerous people from Pittsburgh in the studio, obviously. We have friends in the Steelers organization, both in all aspects of that. So we talk about Steelers a little bit.

So that was an article that Diggs felt needed to be read. Oh, yeah. For us to do our job. Absolutely. Diggs then sends that article into the group. We see the quote. We all read it. And we're like, okay, here we go.

Jerry fucking Dulac. Yep. Okay, a guy in Pittsburgh who works for the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, he wrote an incredible article, and he said that sources have told him that Juju is looking to go to a bigger market. That is what his sources said. So we said yesterday, we had it covered. Like, hey, Juju is a free agent. Juju is one of the—there's Jerry Dulac, by the way.

Shout out to Jerry coming back. That's Jerry Dulac right there. Sorry. That's Jerry Dulac right there. Right there. That guy. And listen, Jerry, I don't know much about him. Okay.

I didn't read newspapers growing up. I do know Ed Bouchette's a legend there next to him. Okay. But Jerry Dulac wrote this article. So whenever it comes up in conversation about Juju's future we go oh we are well researched okay fun fact about Juju's

future it is being alleged per sources of sources that Juju's looking to build his brand Juju I don't know if he I think he did listen to the entire video and he said this is 100% wrong and I think he put it out there to kind of let everybody know that that was wrong but the juju bees

okay who i respect all right you got you got that loyal of a fan base you can do uh tick tocks on like he does good business off the field but his fan base is an awesome one. They start coming after me for making up fake news. Hey, stupid, dumb, young motherfuckers. Okay? I didn't make that up. We said allegedly in there as well, by the way, which kind of gets us off the hook of everything. Yeah, pretty much.

It's literally in the first place. With all due respect. But we were just reporting what we know because that's what we do. We're deep reporters. So all the people that started coming after me, they're like, oh, I got a lot of tweets comparing me to people that legitimately just lie whenever they get on television. I'm like, no, no, no. Complete opposite, pal. Actually, well-researched know this.

Listen to what we say before we get... So we would like to clear this up. Jerry fucking Dulac said Juju from his sources that he heard. Jerry Dulac said that Juju's looking to move to a bigger market, okay? And maybe whenever we tweeted it out,

we should have expected people not to potentially listen to the entire thing, but the word allegedly is sitting right there. We got Bleacher Report tweeting that I said that Juju wants to go to a bigger market. Hey, Bleacher, that is not what I, that's not me, okay? Actually, in the video, if you say what you say, we read sources say, and now we're getting just

buried. Now we're just getting buried. Oh, shut the fuck up. A lot of those tweets coming out from my account to other people this morning. Bleach Report, huge. I'm putting like six to eight emojis after tweets, so probably big jujubes. I assume they're a big jujubee group. But yeah, I mean, you get that nest a-humming. Don't worry, they're not going to sting.

I mean, they're just going to fly around and make a lot of noise. They're not going to sting or do anything that will hurt you. Now, granted, you did go after. Now, what I'm saying is, y'all stop coming after me. Now, if you watch that video and you decide to go after the COVID cowboy for what he said, hey, that's his bed. That is the COVID cowboy's saddle that he put right onto the horse. You do what you've got to do.

But Bleacher Report saying that I created that, it's like, no, that is not true at all. How about you guys do a little bit of fucking research? Yeah. Okay? Because that's what we do around here. Because our listeners and watchers deserve it. Yes. How about Jerry Dulac just sitting back and letting everyone take shrapnel, just grinning from his ivory tower?

Come on, Jerry. Once he saw what was going on, you can't blame him. If Jerry just sees us eating it over here, he's like, well, I'm actually going to retract mine. He's wearing his beehive suit. I'm going to get out of here. The honey thing. I mean, this is a live daily show.

We're going to talk about things that are reported. People are like, well, why didn't you follow up on the report and check with your source? We don't fucking have sources, bro. What do you think this is? That's not our source. That's not our job. Our source is the people who have the source. That's correct. I would like a little bit more respect for the amount of time

that I put on my phone every single day. It's not like I'm just popping things up. I dedicate a lot of fucking hours on my phone. Now, my wife doesn't love it. Okay. My dog, Valerie doesn't love it. She'll come up with a goddamn paw and hit it out of there. But I'd like to know what's going on just to have a little bit of a, you know, a feel of grasp what's going on. So whenever you see somebody who's in the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette who writes that their sources are saying this, it's like, okay, here we go. Like, that seems like that's something. And by the way, it would make sense if that was the case on all sides.

And I think that's potentially why the source might have said it to Jerry, because Jerry's like, of course, that's what he's looking to do. And then he kind of go. So I'm not saying Jerry is lying either. I think Jerry did get that information. But you can't. I'm tired of being fucking buried for me knowing what's going on and people saying, didn't we do the right thing?

I should be getting complimented. Don't shoot the messenger here. Oh, yeah. I would like compliments from everybody. Jujubees. No, they set out to make you the fall guy.

Yeah, like I'm the guy. I didn't make it up. And then Bleach Report fucking puts it. Like, hey, Bleach Report. That was pretty delicious. Those guys fucking take a hike. Yeah.

Didn't you do the right thing, though? You tagged Juju in there. Yeah, we tagged Juju in it. And he told his story. Yeah. He went right to the source. That's what I'm saying. I think Bleach Report should have maybe said,

Hero Pat McAfee brings to light a potential wrong narrative about Juju. Juju's response was, this is 100% not true. But instead, it was completely opposite. They had to picture me at the XFL when I was 270. With a bad look, like a bad look on my face. Side profile. These motherfuckers. Well, if you're going to bury somebody,

you fucking just go all out. That's what Bleach Report does. Oh, they fucking did. Yeah, for sure. Fat Pat. Go after Jared Ducklock, not fucking you. I mean, Juju's been on the show, too.

Yeah, it's, well, I don't know if he'll ever come back on the show after what fucking Dave has said numerous times, but for the good of the show i don't tell anybody their thoughts what they're allowed to say what they're not allowed to say i will often follow up with the opinions of covid cowboy do not reflect that of his employer or his peers you know because i feel like but you have to have a show with differing opinions. Like, you have to have it.

And I just, I did not like the way that was operating last night. I was just like, yo, fuck you. Hey, fuck all of you, actually. That's, I should be getting like,

hey, hey, Pat, thanks for you and the boys for doing the deep dive into a paper that probably doesn't get read that much by somebody that is doing something and bringing this to light

so Juju can clear his name. That's what I thought should have happened, but instead it was the complete opposite. I was being called Skip Bayless. Oh, jeez. Come on. Skip? So I'm watching the NHL season end last night, okay?

I'm watching the NHL season end. By the way, rest in peace to the NHL 2021 season. Good season. Good run. Good season. Come on. Come on. What are you doing?

Pens fucking stink, dude. What are you doing? Pens fucking stink, dude. What are they doing? They got the worst penalty kill in the history of hockey. What are they doing out there? And then the goalie, what's his name? Tristan Jari. That guy? All right.

He left 17 goals in three minutes, that guy. He was just rolling around on the ice at one point. Like, yo, get up, dude. Get up! So dramatic. It's the first game. It's a long season. Get up, I said! Then I got trolled by fucking Gritty.

Gritty comes after me. That googly-eyed stooge. I would like to let it know that I did start that. Because when we were up 1-0, I went straight for the fucking jug. How you doing, Gritty? You know, so I had to eat this one. Didn't you punch a kid? That was the old Gritty. Same costume, different. You know, so I had to eat this one. Didn't you punch a kid? That was the old Gritty. Same costume, different.

But anyway, so Gritty, and I just have to eat this because I did start this. And a lot of Philadelphia Johns were coming after me on the internet. And I just had to eat that because of how loud I was, okay, yesterday about the pens. And the fact that, by the way, I went 2-1 on the betting. Pretty good. Not bad. Overhit.

Easy. Knew that was going to happen. Sid scored plus 210. Knew that was going to happen. The only thing that didn't happen was the Pens money line, which should have happened. And since it didn't, I think we all agree that the NHL season is probably dead at this point.

Good year. But I was getting just attacked by mascots, Johns, everybody. And then all of a sudden, one tweet squeaks in there where they're like, oh, you think you're the new Skip Bayless making up stories about Juju and I almost fuck it

I put the phone down oh you did put the oculus on nice and I ran through an entire class just one run tried to knock out

every single person in under a minute got them in under 50 seconds and then went to bed hell yeah that was so rude I'm like yo I put in a lot of work

I'm on my phone a lot we in a lot of work for this. I'm on my phone a lot. We're not just making shit up. Now, if we say people are saying, that's normally not a factual thing. It is just an opinion. There is a chance that that is being pawned off on somebody. That does not exist.

But we don't know them, but we assume somebody potentially thinks that. Right. Also, who's to say that Jerry Dulac's not right? I mean, is this all correct if Juju ends up going to the Jets or something? I mean, who's to say he's not going to leave time? Yeah, there was a lot of tweets that weren't allowed to have replies on Juju's Twitter account. Interesting.

This one did have the reply. Interesting. We should have buried Jerry whenever we initially reported. Should have. Yeah. We'll learn. Hindsight 2020. But we will always put in work.

I would like people to learn that. Just like everybody assumes I was a very loud NFL guy. No, no. I didn't start talking until I knew I was good. That's like with this show. I'm not going to be talking the way I talk unless I know kind of what I'm fucking talking about. You're not going to see me just go out there and talk about something I don't know about. Hockey? It's in my blood.

I know everything about it. Yesterday, went on an entire rant. That was beautiful. Should have happened instead. We got a fucking goalie that's rolling around on the goddamn ice like he's fucking, who's the fat one from Mighty Ducks? Goldberg. Whenever he first got put in the ice. The first trip down there.

We need the cat to get back in. You also should have known when you went on that run that they were destined to lose. Yeah, yeah. I have been quite a mush for the Pittsburgh Penguins over the years. That's not your fault. It is, yeah. Was that a playoff game we went to when we sat down?

Yep. We went to a playoff game where we sat on the ice, basically. Seat Geek, rest in peace. Rest in peace, SeatGeek. Hell of a run. Good run. Thank you, SeatGeek. Good SeatGeek.

Thank you, SeatGeek. Thank you, SeatGeek. What a run they had, dude. Yeah. It was the best. All time, huh? It was the greatest ticket-buying platform the world has ever seen. And the moon.

And then all of a sudden, and the moon. And then all of a sudden, tickets were no longer needed for anything. Yeah. What do you know? Their business is just over there in a deep end, fucking. And the moon. And then all of a sudden, tickets were no longer needed for anything. Yeah. What do you know? Their business is just over there in a deep end fucking. They should invest in Oculus and just get seats in every single stadium. Well, the Oculus Arena is going to be one that needs to get filled.

Uh-huh. It's getting real. But we went to a playoff game, shout out to SeatGeek, and we were sitting on the extended bench of the visitor's team. So me and Nick were literally right on the ice. it felt like we were in the game basically and i was like i was pumped for nick obviously nick lives and dies with the pens but it was a really cool experience to be there we're sitting there doing this thing and uh the ref skates by and i got a little crack in the glass behind me i'm like hey ref right and i give him a little something like that and then i show him some money or whatever i'm like let's get this win you know Right, and I give him a little something like that. And then I show him some money or whatever. I'm like, let's get this win.

You know what I mean? He eyeballs me, stares me down. I was at 15 seconds later, maybe 20 seconds later. I'm not even sure. Calls a penalty against the Penguins. Soft call, too. Real soft. Like, calls a penalty against the Penguins.

Looks at me while I'm making the call. Then they fucking score 15 seconds into the power play. Jeez. And then just kind of just skated off. And Nick was like, we got to get you out of this building. We got to get you out of here. I went to another game. The other team scored seven goals in the first period.

Jesus. A 7-0 first period, second period. Yeah, I'm not great whenever I'm really loud for the pens. But, hey, I'm a fucking fan. Yeah. And if Sidney Crosby is going to keep scoring goals the way he's scoring goals, maybe they'll have a chance. But I can't believe they lost to the worst fucking team in the NHL last night,

the Philadelphia Flyers. I mean, I tried to tell you the Flyers are actually a pretty good team. I hate them, but they're good. They did look pretty good. They were flying around. That Flyers team appeared to have a different gear than the Pens did, but that doesn't matter. They still stink.

All right, we've got to get to a break. Ty Schmidt, Boston Connor. Zito's here with a poll. Zito, we need a big poll today. Can you please tell the people what your poll is of the day? Oh, yeah, massive poll today. Which divisional round game this weekend will be the closest? Right now, last place, Rams versus Packers, 8%.

Bronze versus Chiefs, 10.4%. Buccaneers versus Saints, 35.2%. And Ravens versus Billss 10.4 percent buccaneers versus saints 35.2 and ravens versus bills 46.4 percent wow yeah you know what i mean that's a that's an interesting little question because whenever you start look i immediately thought bills ravens but then i was like wait bronze chief still because the chiefs have played a lot of close games this year, and the Browns are rolling right now. Then you think about the Buccaneers and Saints. It's like they know a lot about each other. And then whenever you look at the Packers-Rams, you're like,

okay, Packers probably win by 40 there. Hopefully. That's pretty much what I did about the Pens. I know, exactly. And the more you say it, the more I'm getting worried about it because it seems like everybody thinks the Packers are going to win by 40. My shoes are on the other foot now. Still fading the pole or what?

The Packers don't stink, though. The Steelers do. No, because the pole got one. They went one for two, right, last time? The pole was an over and a team pick or whatever. The closest game is interesting because I think we're all betting. I would like to see the number on the Browns because that's 10.5 points, I think.

Browns are getting 10 or 10.5 against the Chiefs. That's 10 and a half points I think Browns are getting 10 or 10 and a half against the Chiefs that's a lot of points for a playoff game especially for this Chiefs team that has not played like blowout football that is not the style of play that they have been playing what's that digs for that 10 10 10 10 and a half line 54 percent of the bets and 50 percent of the money the money split 5050 on Chiefs and Browns. Really? Wow. That makes me feel a lot better on the Browns plus 10. There's a lot of every single game this weekend is in the 50s as far as money is concerned.

A lot of split bets this weekend. All right. Yeah, this ain't working. This thing is just. How's that guy that called in and hacked it? That's a juju. Oh, Jesus. Once again, go to Jerry Dulek's computer.

Please stay out of my computer, dude. All I'm doing is just telling you what we're seeing. Observe, report. Joining us now is a man who basically broke every single rookie record that you could possibly break at the position that you play. He was drafted out of LSU. There's actually a video of the team that drafted him seeing another team right before them draft another wide receiver and them laughing in that team's face because they

knew that they got it wrong by not drafting this man. Wide receiver for the Minnesota Vikings. All pro, pro bowler in one season. He's only going to get better somehow. Ladies and gentlemen, Justin Jefferson. What's up, dude? What's good? How was the season, man? Long season? Was your body ready for it? Was it longer than you thought?

How do you feel right now? It definitely was longer than I thought. You know, those 17 weeks definitely catch up to you. But, you know, a lot of guys in the locker room have told me different ways to really, you know, relax my body and make sure my body is right for every week. Okay, so now that you're about to have off time for the first time in your life, people forget about this. Whenever you're a rookie in the NFL and your season ends,

first of all, that's the longest season because you're going from your junior or senior year in college straight through for combine prep, right into right into otas right into training camp right into the longest season you've ever had in your life so that's the longest year of all time then as soon as your rookie season's over it's the first time in your entire life basically that your life hasn't been scripted for you for the first couple months now granted the world is not what it normally is what are you thinking about doing here, Justin? How are you going to enjoy your downtime?

Are you going to be playing video games? Are you going to be going out? Are you going to be gritty and all over the world? Are you going to take some trips? What are you going to do, Justin? All of the above. I'm going to be in some sunshine, just relaxing. Just like you said, this is the first time I really get to relax my body and really enjoy life for a little bit.

So, you know, definitely looking forward to really, you know, getting some off time and getting some vacation. Justin, why'd you have so much success this year? And not just you, by the way. You obviously were the standout in the wide receivers, but rookie wide receivers this year had a hell of a year. standout in the wide receivers, but rookie wide receivers this year had a hell of a year. Now, there's a whole new class coming into the NFL, including Devontae and Jamar Chase, which you know very well. Do you think that's going to be a trend moving forward?

Do you think that you were more prepared for the NFL with the way college football is now than maybe in years past? I mean, just me just coming from Joe joe brady's offense bringing that that sanks full-style offense uh it kind of gave me a head start uh to the league you know just going in to the league and and knowing the concepts uh it kind of was a little bit easier to to really you know grasp so um i i definitely i definitely feel like those guys are definitely going to come in and make a big uh mark uh depending on what team they get drafted to. So hopefully they get drafted to a good organization that uses them right. And let's talk about that.

You told Kirk Cousins to go fuck himself on that. That was wild. Did you hear him say that? Yeah. You said that. You said it right in the middle of a game. Right in the middle of a game. Fuck you, Kirk.

You didn't get a ball, and you stood there, and you grabbed a microphone. Do you remember? Yeah. It was wild. You grabbed a microphone. You were like, Kirk Cousins, I hate you, basically. Go fuck yourself. Do you remember when you did that?

I don't remember that one. No, I loved that whole situation, though, how it blew up, right? Because my initial take on it was, oh, I feel like Justin Jefferson and Kirk Cousins have a very good relationship as opposed to what people thought the other way I thought like no this happens on much regular basis and people think there's normally crowd noise we got a chance it sounded like one of them satellite things was literally right into your helmet whenever you said it but uh how was your relationship with Kirk Cousins and do you think that is a big reason obviously on why you had so much success this year our relationship was was very good you know at practice and stuff

we definitely connect well um you know just just trying to win games trying to trying to make big plays so uh you know at practice we're we're getting extra reps in we're doing we're doing things to help the uh offense up so um you know that that just really was just a frustration play um you know i felt like open on that play and you know i didn't get the ball so uh kind of just like a frustration one just you know just pouring out my emotions but just like you said there's there's no crowd noise so you hear everything on the field hey i will say this you being emotional you know everybody talks about how you want your players to be passionate. You want people on your team to have emotion,

not just play for the check, but also play for everything like that. And then as soon as you do that, you hear a lot of the old whites go, did you hear what he said? It's like you can't have it both ways. You can't have people that are invested and emotional. And then whenever you see moments in the height of competition, by the way, at the highest level where there's some sort of conversation, that's a very interesting thing.

We enjoyed it a lot over here. We loved it. We ran it probably 20 times in the morning. Because the flexing, too. There was like no way where anybody could say it wasn't you. It was like an entire – it was awesome. Diggs, what do you got? Justin, after you broke all of his rookie records, did Randy Moss call you?

Do you guys have a relationship? Does he talk to you at all about since you guys were within the same organization and had great success as rookies? We made this little – we did this video or like this Zoom call of all the receivers from the Vikings organization to get the Rookie of the Year award. So I kind of talked to all of those guys at the same time, just giving me the insight of how to take on my NFL season and the things that I have been doing all year.

So hopefully I can get this Rookie of the Year. We hope you get Rookie of the Year as well because the year that you had is one that's probably i mean it's gonna be tough whenever you're talking about being in the conversation with randy i mean that's just that's gonna it's what it's once every generation probably so you i mean that's like a i assume that's a high compliment i know there's some players that kind of don't enjoy being compared to past players or past greats. I would assume, even though you and Randy don't have the same style of play, whenever you're in the same conversation as guys like that, especially in the like, you have to feel pretty good about that, right? Oh, 100%. You know, he's a Hall of Famer. He's classified as one of the best receivers ever to play the game. So to be in the same sentence as him being compared to him,

you know, of course, I don't mind that at all. You know, my goal is to be a Hall of Famer one day and be one of the best receivers of all time. So I'm definitely not scared of that comparison. So there's definitely more work that I need to do and things that I need to fix to become, you know, a Hall of Famer. Will you train with anybody this off season? Will you train with like, cause there's always, you know,

the internet shows like groups of guys that are working out, you know, and back in the day, I think it maybe wasn't as known by people that people from different teams trained together. I mean, there's stories coming out about Peyton and Tom Brady in the off season, getting together and training together that I think if it would have came out at the time people would have lost their minds about but we kind of hear about now now we kind of get a chance to see it whether it's the

offensive line that gets put together a defensive uh ends gonna have a group together it feels like everybody's kind of trying to help each other out will you train with anybody this offseason or you do your work alone I mean train I mean you train with the best the best train with the best so uh of course i want to train with the top guys of the league you know i talked to davante adams talked to stefan digg so uh you know odell so talking to those different guys uh you know definitely wanted to train with them to see uh all the information that they can give to me to help my game out what were were you doing those? We guys run routes. Will there be, like, what, did they give you different drills to do?

Like, what would those training sessions look like for a wide receiver? Really just giving me information to help anything that I have a problem with. You know, if it's releases, if it's running different routes, if it's, you know, how to get open during this coverage or how the cornerback is playing you. So there's definitely different ways to help my game and to improve. And guys like Stephon Diggs, Devontae Adams, and those different guys definitely have some tricks up their sleeve.

You had the most receiving yards by a rookie in the Super Bowl era. That's a hilarious stat to have. I would have that as my twitter bio immediately if i had but what do do you did you do a self scout i assume at the end of the year already have you done that type of thing yet and be like okay this is something that i feel like i gotta work out where's that was that happening during the year were you taking notes during the year? Like, when do you realize, like, okay, I want to get better at, whether it's my breaks to the right side or to, like, when do you decide what you think you have to get better at? I kind of look at it, you know, throughout the season. And, you know, especially you can definitely look at it after the season

when, you know, you start playing. But, yeah, throughout the the season just different things that uh i felt that i needed to work on um you know definitely uh having to work on that that press man coverage you know just working on different releases um especially you know this upcoming season we have a lot of top corners that we're going to begin so i definitely have to you know reach in my bag and find those new tricks to get over. I was always a hand guy. You know what I mean?

I was always a Devonta uses no hands. But I was always a, you know, I'm a ninja. I'm a ninja chop you down. That was always my move. If you need me to come down and do anything, you let me know. I'll kind of give you some of the insights. What do you got, Connor? Justin, you mentioned Devonta and Diggs as guys you'll train with. Will you watch the games this weekend to just see how they go up against their matchups?

Oh, 100%. I'm definitely looking forward to that Green Bay and Rams game with Devontae Adams and Jalen Ramsey. So definitely going to be looking at that to see how that matchup goes. I'm a big Devontae Adams fan. So definitely going to be rooting for that to see how that matchup goes. I'm a big Devontae Adams fan, so definitely going to be rooting for him and see how good he does. What have you noticed about the difference between the NFL corners and college corners? Because obviously the SEC, it's different down here.

You play against a lot of NFL talent down there. But once you get in the NFL, there's NFL IQ, there's NFL defenses, everything. What is the difference between NFL corners? Like, for instance, Jalen, whenever you watch him play, it looks like he's floating sometimes whenever he's making a play. And there's not a lot of Jalen's out there in any level or anything like that. But what has been the biggest difference? Is it the overall athleticism? Is it the schemes? What has it been? You think the difference between NFL and college DBs?

Well, one, you know, of course, you know, being LSU, being a big program, you know, we don't play, you know, top teams every single week. So having to play a top corner or a top team every single week in the NFL, it definitely gets tough. It gets, you know, a toll on your body. You get tired. And two, they're smarter um they're definitely patient um you know they're they're looking at their techniques um they're studying

a whole bunch of film on you so uh those moves that that those moves that you did last week definitely uh are not going to be able to work um going up against you know that corner the the next week so you definitely gotta you know change some some stuff up, you know, that corner the next week. So you definitely got to, you know, change some stuff up and, you know, change the way you move. You, your routes were so sick. Yeah. Hey, your routes were nasty this year. They were running them as highlights.

They were running fucking routes as highlights. You know, they were like, look at this. And it was just you in the middle of the up and field. And then the guy just leaving or whatever. Normally it would be a big catch or whatever. Look at this man run on a football field. It was absolutely – has that been like – when did you realize that that was going to have to be one of the main focuses?

Because I feel like whenever they say somebody's a great route runner, nobody really understands what that means. It's like, oh, no, they put in a lot of work to be able to cut very quickly. Have you always been a great route runner? Is that always something you've been able to take advantage of defenses with? Like, how did that become your thing? Because it's like your thing is how you shake the shit out of people at the top of your routes. Well, I mean, of course not.

Me, I started playing receiver, you know, in high school. So I didn't really get, you know, that much experience at receiver. So me going into LSU, I have my favorite coach, Coach Jerry Sullivan. He coaches for the Cardinals now. You know, he came in, I came in and he helped me tremendously with different ways to get open with releases, ways to break down and get quicker on my breaks. So he definitely helped me and made me into a better route runner and better receiver. Yeah.

That'd be pretty cool. Did you play basketball growing up as well? Yes, yes. Were you good? You couldn't shoot, huh? Shoot the lights out. I didn't know. Normally, because if you can just shake everybody, Were you good? You couldn't shoot, huh? Shoot the lights out. I didn't know.

I didn't know. I was just – normally because if you can just shake everybody, you know, you get a bit greedy. You just go into the rack every time. For those of us that can't just wiggle our way through every L.A. fitness pickup game, you have to be able to have range. You know what I mean? I have to be able to pop off from way back. Ty, what do you got?

Justin, after everything you've seen this year, who's gritty is worse, Kirk Cousins or Adam Thielen? Yeah, great question. I'm going to have to go with Kirk. I'm going to have to. But, I mean, Kirk, that was the first time I ever seen Kirk do it the whole season. So, you know, at least I got to picture how he does it, how he do it, so I can work with him a little bit.

Kirk probably worked at the house, huh? Wait until I boss this out. It's like kids doing it with him. It's like a pair of shoes. Wait until they see this. That's what Kirk did at the house. How are you guys feeling?

Vikings, Final meeting? What was the message? You know, of course, we didn't want to go one and five at the beginning of the season. I mean, that hurt us tremendously with, you know, not being able to get to the playoffs and everything. But that second part of the season, you know, that's when we really became alive. That's when we really started to play Vikings football. And that's when we really started to buy into what was going on. We wasn't used to not having any fans in the stadium.

The energy was dead. It definitely was a different feel. But we just really just got to that winning stage a little too late. Well, it was fun to watch you guys down the stretch there. Thought you were potentially going to make an entrance, a backdoor entrance into the playoffs. Hope you enjoy the hell out of your offseason, Justin. You deserve it.

Can't wait to see what you do and how you come back even better, bub. Yes, sir. Appreciate it. Hey, let me know if you need anything. You know. I'm going to need some booze, man. Okay, I got you. Ladies and gentlemen, Justin Jefferson. Hold on, sir. Appreciate it. Hey, let me know if you need anything. I'm going to need some booze, man. Okay, I got you. Ladies and gentlemen, Justin Jefferson. Hold on, Justin. Hold on, Justin.

What's that? Chad Johnson just tweeted that he heard you'll be at House of Athlete, which is Brandon Marshall's training facility, and he said he will personally lock you up on 101. Ocho going to lock you down. By the way, talk about good route runner. Talk about good route runner. Ocho said he's going to lock you down. By the way, talk about good route runner. Talk about good route runner. Ocho said he's going to lock you down.

And give you a PowerPoint tutorial. He's reading a tweet right now. I heard he will be at House of Athlete at Brandon Marshall's facility training this offseason in Weston. I will personally lock him up in one-on-ones and give a PowerPoint tutorial on route running, says Chad Johnson to Justin Jefferson. I got something for him. him up in one-on-ones and give a powerpoint tutorial on route running says chad johnson to justin jefferson i got something for him ladies and gentlemen justin jefferson

oh that's awesome i thought you had breaking news i didn't know it kind of was yeah kind of was ocho was always known as the guy who his feet were just so damn impressive what's that we have breaking news was it the real chad johnson getting off a plane in jacksonville Yeah, it was. Ochoa was always known as the guy who his feet were just so damn impressive. What's that? We have breaking news? Was it the real Ochoa Johnson? Getting off a plane in Jacksonville, Florida. Oh, Urban Meyer?

Yeah. He's getting the gig, huh? He's flying on a, let's start judging the plane. That is a Citation, it looks like. It looks like it's a little thin. I would prefer a Hawker, which is a little bit of a fatter plane. It's more like an SUV flying through the sky. The Citation is a little bit quicker. For those that don't know, a Citation, and by the way, I'm not 100% certain that is a Citation plane.

I'm just, if it is a Citation plane, it was the original, like, Wall Street plane. Like, that was, like, the old school Wall Street plane. You know, like, got money, let's go ahead and travel. Probably a lot of cocaña and other things that have been done on Citation planes. So I am a Hawker fan myself. Unless it's the Citation 10, the Citation X, which is the fastest plane in the sky. It flies, how fast is it? 750 miles an hour?

Yeah. It's moving. It takes an hour off of your flights if you need them. But if anything goes wrong, it is over. That's basically with every plane. So I respect that they flew the plane up to get old Urban. He has landed in Duval County. Some info on what Urban Meyer is getting with the Jaguars.

Most cap space in the league. 11 draft picks. First overall pick. Talent on roster includes. Yeah, I got that. Big congrats to Urbanyer getting a head coaching gig yeah wow i think he i think he has always wondered if it would work in the nfl i talked to uh yesterday we talked to rich rod by the way which um that was a fun time it was a very fun

time but i think rich rod when i talked to him whenever he played old or when old miss played mississippi state i got the chance to talk to him for the first time. I asked him about coaching in the NFL, you know, because his offense is now in the NFL. And he said, he basically told me he never had a vision to do it, but he always wondered if he would be able to work up there, right? And I don't think Rich Rod would ever want to go up there, but he did have that answer. He's like, I always thought to myself, I wonder how many times Urban Meyer has thought to himself, like, I could probably go do the NFL if I had to. I wonder if he sees that Saban's the greatest college football

coach of all time, and he goes, you know what? Saban couldn't do. He couldn't coach in the NFL. Let's go ahead and do that. Or if this is just to, you know, one final thing off the bucket list to do is go have a successful NFL run as a coach. We'll see. Hopefully he'll be able to stay healthy enough, Okay?

Last two stops have ended in health situations. A lot of success. I guess Utah he had success. Florida he had success. Ohio State he had success. Those are a very different sport than the NFL. We'll see how it goes down there in Duval County. Good for Jacksonville, though.

They make a splash hire. Seems like that's what Sean Conn wanted. Now, granted, splash hires don't mean a goddamn thing if they don't work out. It's just a good headline. You win a day in the offseason. Will he be able to win some games? We shall see. He's going to surround himself with NFL coaches, he said. Well, the report said. Who knows if he said that or if the Jacksonville Jaguar people said

hey, also we need this to get out there. Anybody that's attacking us for hiring a guy that doesn't know anything about the NFL, let's go ahead and get this out here as well. We're going to hire very, very super NFL knowledgeable coaches, basically was the report. A lot of NFL big brains coming in here with Urban Meyer as well. It's like, well, we'll see. I can't wait to see how it goes. What were you going to say, Diggs?

I was going to say something dumb, like maybe he'll bring Alex Smith in as a backup to Tudor Trevor Lawrence since they were together at Utah. The interesting thing there is, what if Fields, Ohio State guy, right? He's up there, what, the second quarterback in most mock drafts? Is Trevor Lawrence a lock to go to Jacksonville? And by the way, we told you just one week ago that when this hire happens, this will be the exact conversation that will happen on sports shows everywhere. Is Urban Meyer in his Ohio State allegiances?

So much so that when he's on the sideline of ohio state games he looks like he's still coaching ohio state and ohio state's games whenever he's doing the halftime show or the pregame show for ohio state he is talking as if he is still the ohio state coach he is loved in ohio absolutely loved over there. Before the season started, he did say he would take Lawrence over fields this year. We'll see. We'll see. Well, who does Shad Khan stay? Bury him if he doesn't take field

number one or whatever. No, but also, yeah, what you're about to say, Shad Khan said he's calling shots around here. So who does he want? That's what we need to find out. How many trips on that yacht do you think Urban Meyer had to – which trip onto the yacht? Because they said they've been meeting for a month now at this point. Which trip do you think Urban Meyer was finally like,

all right, fuck it, you can make the decisions? Because I assume the first couple conversations were like shotgun being like, I'd like to still have my hands on things. And Urban Meyer going, yeah, yeah, all right, and leave. Then coming back, hey, this is what we're thinking, money-wise. And the control. Because everybody assumes that that's what is going to ultimately be the issue. Is Urban Meyer in college?

You control every single moment of your players' lives. Whenever you don't have that control, is it still going to be able to work? We'll see how it goes. A.J. Hawk, who knows Urban pretty well, said he thinks Urban's going to do well up there. He's a good communicator, good leader. We'll see. He's not going to be the offensive guy or the defensive guy he's just the head coach who's a rallier which is what you need by the way i think not always but i feel like that has been a pretty

good system in the nfl's history yeah to your point i believe i saw one of the tweets this morning that like after the first meeting and stuff like that those meetings were about facility upgrades and stuff like that that urban wanted before he took the job by the way love that all these other coaches are taking these Zoom calls hoping and praying for a goddamn gig. Urban, since he had success in college, he's able to go down to ShotKhan's yacht and go, that practice facility ain't gonna

fucking cut it. Are we the Bengals, dude? Put a roof on that thing. Connect those pools. Please. Immediately. The Cabanas, too? Family's gonna need two of those. 50,000 to 60, going to need two of those. Uh-huh. All right? And then I would like, I don't know, 50,000 to 60,000 more people in the stadium.

Go ahead and build on top of that. Add an upper bowl. Shotgun's like, I guess, man. All right. Jesus. Let's do it. I mean, we could have hired goddamn Joe Brady. He was just begging for a gig.

God damn it. But we'll do it, I guess. Let's go. I feel like Urban Meyer, I feel like he has successful operations. You know, there's a lot of question marks around every single one. Every single exit, there's a lot of question marks. People are like, what happened here? But I feel like he always has.

I think he's going to do okay. He's won everywhere. He's literally won everywhere. But with the NFL, college, whenever you can pick your players, whenever you can be a good salesman and get a family to allow their son to come to your school, for whatever reason, however you're doing it, better than everybody else. That is a real weapon in college football that not everybody has.

In the NFL, you can't do it. So I don't know how maybe it will be big free agency build team. Okay, we want this guy, we want this guy, we want this guy. I assume that is potentially going to happen. Maybe that's another conversation he was having with Sean. Like, hey, we're going to have to spend money on free agency. Or maybe Urban Meyer will adapt his entire ability, use his big football brain,

and be able to direct it in an NFL style and have success. I'm intrigued to see how it plays out. This doesn't move the needle at all for guys potentially going to Jacksonville like players, does it? The Ohio State guys. Yeah. Well, outside of Ohio State guys. Look for Ezekiel Elliott to get traded for the Cowboys.

Michael Thomas. Michael Thomas getting out of Saints. We know he hates everything going on over there, allegedly. Why draft Trevor Lawrence when you get Dewey Haskins down there? Oh, man. Bring in Dwayne. Bosa. Bosas.

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a guy who is potentially going to be coaching us. Hour three kicks off with Mr. A.J. Hawk. Whoa! A.J. Urban Meyer gets a job down in Jacksonville. His first call is to his favorite Buckeye hero,

A.J. Hawk, and he says, come coach linebackers, come do something with our staff because it is being reported that Urban Meyer would like to surround himself with people who know a lot about the NFL. I don't know anybody who knows more than A.J. Hawk. Will you be working for the Jacksonville Jaguars, A.J. Hawk? I don't know, but I think if he brings me in, I'm looking to be the assistant head coach slash D coordinator because I have so much extensive –

I have such a big resume of a coaching career that I think I should get that job right away. Oh, so you're like the classic college kids nowadays who come out of college and they just learn from somebody who couldn't accomplish what they're teaching, so that's why they're teaching, and they feel like they deserve to be the president of the fucking company as soon as they get it.

That's what you're doing right now? I guess so, yes. Congrats, dude. Let's go. Do you want to break any news? I wish I had any news for you. Come on. You're alluding to the fact that you had news.

Just say it. Hey, Urban doesn't even have the job yet, does he? Yeah, he does. He does have the job. He does have the job. He does have the job. Don't play this game. You're sitting there trying to say, what did you say? I saw the clip. A Buckeye hero

might get a job down there. Okay, the only one that is coached, obviously, it's myself, Bobby Carpenter, and Schlage. We were talking about that cereal box. Schlage actually worked with Urban. He was the strength coach on the staff and everything. Oh.

I would hire Schlegs. If I was head coach in the NFL, I would want to bring him in. I have no idea what Urban's going to do, but I would do it. At what position? I would make him the head strength coach. So let's say you put on your Urban Meyer cap and you're Urban Meyer. You said if you were Urban Meyer, you would hire Schlegs as the head strength coach for the Jacksonville Jaguars?

Of course, yeah. You think Urban Meyer makes good decisions? He makes good decisions for sure. I have no idea what he's thinking about with any staff hirings, though. Oh, okay. So no breaking news? No, sorry. This thing.

Get it out. If Slakes doesn't get the job and he's got time on his hands, you think he'd write us up a plan? Yeah, can he get us in shape? Maybe he becomes our strength and conditioning coach. Is that possible? He would be amazing at that. Awesome. Awesome.

Okay. So congrats to Slakes. He will have numerous job offers. Joining us now is a three-time Pro Bowler, a man who just got broken off a little bit ago. He was traded for a third-rounder and a fifth-rounder out of Detroit. Get him the fuck out of here, okay? He seems to be good at football.

Ladies and gentlemen, corner for the Philadelphia Eagles, Darius Slick. What's up, what's up? Hey, thanks for joining us, man. How are you? I'm good. How are you doing? Hey, not too shabby. let's dive right into it i saw something on sports center yesterday where you went to a kid's graduation party you're like super duper incredible dude i had no idea until i saw that whole thing how did that whole thing happen are you normally very interactive with the fans how have you enjoyed philadelphia let's go ahead

and keep it moving here yeah man um you. You know, kids be inboxing me. And back in Detroit, I used to go to a lot of high school games and stuff like that. And, you know, I just used to tweet out what games I want to go to or what games good to go to. And I just pull up. And a kid asked me to come to his graduation. And so I did it and I surprised him. I didn't even answer to it. I just jumped up there and surprised him.

And you guys, it looked like I haven't been to a graduation party in a while you guys were playing like uh beer pong but with water how's your game did you lose did you win i think you had one cup in front of you what the hell was going on man i'm lost man because i don't drink so i'm not good all right let's talk about by the way that's awesome that you did that and do that great for the community it's always good to see NFL players kind of get invested in the cities that they're playing for I assume whenever you found out you were going to be traded that was a little bit of alarming did you know that was potentially going to happen did it come out of nowhere whenever you got traded for a third and a fifth oh no no we kind of knew it was going to happen.

You know, me and Matt Patricia made a little, you know, we talked for a while. And, you know, we couldn't get it to where we needed to get it at. So we knew it was going to happen. So you say you talked to Matt Patricia, who was the head coach of the Lions at the time. You talked to him directly? You go through agents? Like, how does that work? We had, you know, we was talking during the season and directly.

So, you know, we was grown enough to talk to each other. And me, him, and Bob, you know, we couldn't come up with something. And so we did what's best for myself. Okay, so whenever you find out you're going to Philadelphia, were you happy about that, thrilled about that? Obviously, just a few years ago, Super Bowl champs. Whenever you find out you're going to Philadelphia, were you happy about that, thrilled about that? Obviously, just a few years ago, Super Bowl champs. Whenever you find out you're going to Philly, you were excited, I assume, to get out there? Of course. Of course I was excited.

A new start, a new beginning. I know a lot of guys that was on the team already. It's a new, fresh start for me, and I was ready for it. The thing we enjoyed about it is we learned about you whenever you got traded. And that's no offense to you. Most offense to the Detroit Lions and their fans. Detroit Lions, not a lot

of conversations happening about the Lions over the last 30, 40, 50 years. And the issue is because they made Calvin Johnson pay the money back and Barry Sanders pay the money back. It is a curse that is a lot deeper than anybody could fathom. So whenever we see you get traded for a bag of balls, basically, in Philadelphia, and then the ratings come out,

he's like, oh, this is like best corner in the league. And then contract comes. It's like it was awesome for us just to bury the Lions fan that we have in here that that was happening. But when you go to Philadelphia, was there any big environment change? Were you asked to become a leader in there? Like, what was the transition into the Philadelphia Eagles organization like? It wasn't much like a difference, you know.

You know, I just came in there, played my role as a person. You know, I was new there, so I was trying to fill everybody out. You know, and I was the leader. I was one of the leaders in my DB room, so that's my thing about me is I try to lead the DBs in the right direction. But as a team leader, you know, I was working to that, just trying to figure everybody out. Carson, Fletcher, Kels, you know, all them guys, Ertz,

them guys are doing a great job at what they was already doing. You know, so I just try to fill in and try to help out. Darius, whenever you, you know, see what's happening to a team that you're on, I was on a team that went 2-14, and we went 0-13. We won two out of the last three. We kind of almost lost Andrew Luck while winning those games. But it was an interesting time because you start hearing people talk off in the locker room about what's going on.

Coaches start thinking they're going to get fired, so they start turning them whenever things start going bad. Whenever the world seemed to think that the Eagles organization was burning from within this year, what was it like in there? Were you guys trying to keep the noise out? Because the amount of noise about the team that you were a part of was deafening outside of it. I mean, it was very, very loud. What was it like in there? Did you guys try to avoid the noise or did it creep in and you guys had to address the whole thing?

I mean, we tried to avoid it. You know, like I said, we had great guys on the team that were great leaders that, you know, just kept focused on football. We was all worried about the week. So we had another thing that just when we got a time and focused on the game, you know, we know this is a business you know can happen in this business anything can possibly happen so uh we're just trying to look forward and win games you know that's the most important thing is about winning games so we felt as if we if we win games the noise will stop so uh that was our goal there's what's your what was your your coordinator jim schwartz there and philly and i assume you were there there in Detroit with him as well,

your previous relationship with him. He seems like one of those genius maniacs on the defensive side of the ball. What's he like? Oh, man, he's awesome, man. He's a great guy, man. He's great energy, and he holds you to high standards, man. That's what I love about him. And he's going to keep you there. No matter what type of player you

is, how many Pro Bowls you got, where you've been, where you come from, how much money you got, he holds you to a high standard. He expects you to do your job at a high level. I appreciate him the most because he drafted me and showed me the game and taught me to be a pro early. Were you there when he almost fought? Who did he almost fight?

Harbaugh. Were you there when he almost fought? Harbaugh. Were you there for that almost fought? Were you there for that? No, that was the year right before me. Oh, man. That was electric. I couldn't see it. That was awesome. Anytime you have a little coach's beef, it always, the boys buzz in the locker room. Hey, our guy's

about to fucking, about to go for this thing. I hear a dog. What type of dog do you have? I got Cane Corso's and Blue Pit. Those are massive dogs, right? Oh, yeah, they big. But mine's still

a pup right now, so I'm worried to see how big he get. What are the names? You got any cool names over there? Yeah, I got Deuce and Kobe. What do you got, Darius? How much did it help you early in your career that you come in

and you immediately are going up against Calvin Johnson every day in practice? It was good, man. Shoot, my rookie year, I ain't knock a ball down from him.

He was destroying me every day. So he made my confidence more high than what it was already. So just because of the fact that it was hard to already stop him, but getting caught on every day in practice was pretty bad.

He just bombed on you. At least every single day you lined up against him, though. That's something. That's a big deal because not everybody does that. I would assume that that only made you better through the whole process. And also, corners, how do you – okay, yeah. So when you do get bombed on everybody talks about you gotta have short memory short how how do you guys just forget about that and just go back out

you have to have that confidence the confidence is the way you carry through the whole thing you got to have the confidence man um you know some people built in it uh but uh like i was built for you know so uh but it just it's just rough out there you know you gonna have one of them days man trying to figure out, where they're trying to go at and trying to stop them, and you got to guess for most of the part of the time, you know, plays like that are going to happen, but, you know, you got to keep fighting and keep playing.

Sorry about the nameless gray face that's, blurry face that is on the side of the screen over there. His internet is absolutely despicable. It is maybe the most disgusting internet of all time. That's joke. That guy over there, that's A.J. Hawk, by the way.

I mean, Darius, if a guy like me or A.J. gets a catch on you, is that when you retire, you think? Is that retirement time? Oh, no, I ain't going to get no catch on me. I'm not coming down. Coach Doug Peterson was fired. All right uh the whole world knew that were you guys sent an email were you guys did anybody like how did you find out about it was it just through social like everything else basically is and has there been any further conversation because you're one of

their staples have you heard anything from the organization since the firing? Not firing, sorry. Separation. The mutualism. The parting of ways. I'm so sorry. The parting of ways. Sorry about that.

Yeah, you know, they sent out a letter. You know, I was surprised, you know, but shoot. Definitely got the guy to get the pad out. You know, one of my first Super Bowl. So a lot of guys were surprised, but I thought I at least had a year left. But how the business is, I don't know how it happened or what happened. Maybe some type of agreements or something they wanted to do different. I don't know.

But best of luck to him wherever he ends up at. I know he'll be a good coach wherever he goes at. And I'm looking forward to see what he becomes. I think that's such an interesting thing because a lot of people think if you're on the team, you know a lot more. Yeah, you don't know none. Nothing. I think it was my rookie year where I was at practice, and then I came home, and then I opened Twitter,

and I learned something about my teammate that happened at the same practice that I was at from Adam Schefter. I'm like, how did I not know that? I was literally standing there, and this son of a bitch does. And it's like, I think you were talking about the Troy Aikman conversation this morning about, Troy Aikman said on Michael Irving's podcast that he talked to Doug Peterson because they're friends and everything like that. And he said there was a difference of an idea between Jalen Hurts

and Carson Wentz on who should be the franchise's quarterback. And I am not ever going to put a player in a position to have to answer a question that will potentially jeopardize any conversation you could have in the locker room going forward. So I would not do that to you. But the question I do have is, did you guys realize what was going on in the locker room while it was happening? When Jalen gets put in for the first time as a starter, Carson gets down. And how did you guys keep that not awkward?

Or did the defense just say, like, hey, we got to take – because defense, offense, two different teams within an organization. Did you guys just kind of – were you guys on your own side? Or did you guys get involved? Like, how did that whole thing unfold behind closed doors? Really, man, we just don't – we focus on the defensive part because, you know, we just try to get the ball back for the offense so the offense can put up more points. And, you know, we, try to get the ball back for the offense so the offense can put up more points.

And, you know, we, as a defense, I don't think we knew that even Jalen was going to start until he brought it out into the media. So we were just like, hey, whoever ups, we up. We just trying to do our best to help the team win. So it wasn't like a whole team meeting of who going to be starting or not. So it was more like, hey, whoever's out there, you go try to get in the best foot four

and try to get in the ball the most we can. I guess, yeah, go ahead, AJ. I'm just wondering about this, the current playoff picture and what's going on. Are you going to be watching? Like, do you think there's going to be any upsets? Like, how do you think a team like the Browns is going to do? I think they're going to do good, man.

You know, guys like, them guys, them two running backs they got, man, they running the ball. And when you can run the ball and control the clock, it's tough. But a team like Kansas City, though, that could put up 30 points in, like, 10 minutes. And so you ain't going to have too much time to run the ball. So I feel like if Cleveland defense do slow that guy down a little bit, they'll be good. Being in the NFC, there's a lot of great wide receivers, right? And Devontae's name just kind of got brought into the conversation this year

for whatever reason as being one of the best wide receivers in the NFL. What makes one of those elite guys those elite guys? Is it just ball skill? What makes it whenever you're going against a guy like that, do you know like, okay, this is potentially going to be a long fucking day here? Oh, yeah, man. Anything with, like me, I've been playing this davante for a long time seven years so um like i said right now he for sure is the best receiver in the league

and um you know with aaron throwing him the ball you know it's making him tougher so uh what is it though what does he do what does he do that's different than i mean he he could just do it all man he could do it all he could really you, he's not one of the fastest guys, you know, but as on film, he looked fast, you know. So, good release guy, man. Like I said, he's one of the best releasers in the league. So, we got him, Keenan Allen, Amari Cooper, are like the best three I've seen release off the ball.

But nobody does it better than Devontae. And Devontae a dog, man. He got a dog mentality. Big boy, taking contact, light contact. I'm dang sure looking forward to him and Jalen Ramsey going against each other this week. You talk shit?

No, man. I'm a humble guy, man. I appreciate everybody's work, but don't talk to me and I won't talk to you. I ain't a killer, but do not push me. Do you't talk to you i ain't a killer but do you guys know i was gonna ask about jaylen and davante yeah it's just a very interesting it's a jaylen and davante oh ramsay oh jaylen ramsay yeah i got it okay i thought you're talking hurts i'm like a lot of jaylen's uh darius who's a who's a qb that you just don't

like going against who gives you trouble i mean a just don't like going against? Who gives you trouble? I mean, Aaron. That's the one who gives me a lot of trouble, man. Like I said, I've been seeing him since I've been in the league. And, man, he's just a smart dude, man. Like I said, he's the MVP of the league this year for sure. Mm-hmm. Yep.

And, man, like I said, man, he may throw his deaths. I don't know. It's hard to even explain. So, like I said, he's one of the toughest guys I went against, and he's steady, consistent, and smart, read coverage as well, and very cocky. I love that. Is there a confident, he'll say.

And we'll say, I think, a very confident man. I mean, he is so calm out there, isn't he? He's very calm. He undoes that fucking thing, straps it up there, has a quick little conversation, a smile, and then he walks back into the huddle. I mean, he's just on a different planet out there. Yeah, man.

One time we was playing him this year, man. He just walked up to us casually and just picked up a piece of grass and just, like, threw it. Like, threw it in the wind. We're like, what is he doing? You know what I'm saying? It's just that he does stuff like that. You be like man the dude's so good man she's crazy hey uh we appreciate you so much for joining us man have an incredible off season

hope you enjoy deuce and kobe a little bit hope that puppy grows up to be you know 10 foot dog that'll be good good news for you where do you spend the off season oh man i'm right now i'm in New Jersey. Right now I'm waiting on my house to be finished. So until that's done, I'm going to be right here in Jersey. Oh, wait, you're building a house. Let's go. Oh, yeah.

Yeah. Congratulations. Appreciate it. Are you an architect? Did you design that thing? Oh, no, I ain't doing all that now. I got somebody to do the job. Florida?

Where at? Not in Houston. Texas. Oh, hey, there's a lot going on. Are you a Rockets fan? Not now. Going to the Nets? I'm going to the Nets.

Ladies and gentlemen, Darius Slade. He was awesome. He was really awesome. We didn't get to the accountant question. Oh, shit. Which will be disappointing for some people, but I enjoyed that convo, AJ. Did you know anything about him? I didn't know much about him before the trade happened,

and then you kind of learned thus, just strictly because we make fun of Foxy for the trade happening. He's a player, huh? Oh, yeah, he can play. And, yeah, he didn't really get the recognition he deserved until he got traded, I feel like. And people are like, wait, what? People recognize it strictly so they could kill the Lions.

Like, what are you doing? Why would you get rid of this guy? Yeah, it's about to happen to Stafford, too. The exact same situation. You think Stafford's out of town? They just hired a GM? I don't think he's out of town. But if he does go out of town, everyone's going to be like,

and sees him in a new uniform and he's good, they're going to be like, wow, this guy's awesome. Hey, let's do some assuming real quick. Let's do some assuming. Lions just hired a director of college scouting from the Rams to their general manager position. Do I know the guy's name? Absolutely not.

Neither do you. Doesn't matter until we see how his team does. But when you think about the Rams, you don't think like, oh, college scouting is their thing because I guess they drafted Aaron Donald and got the boys in there. I guess it could get going there. But if you're a director of college scouting, you would think they potentially want to maybe a younger squad, maybe build through the draft. And are you going to ship Stafford out of town?

You think they ship Stafford out of town? I hope they do. Bring him to Indy. Somebody did some edits of him in a Colts uniform. He looks good in a Colts uniform. I hope that happens. Would you if you were up there? Absolutely. If I was any team that is

fighting to get into the playoffs every year, can you imagine Stafford on a good team? I have. With a lot of defense and weapons around him? The Colts, dude. If he comes to the Colts, it would be awesome. Gotta get him some weapons, I guess. If you get Matt Stafford, I assume you could sign weapons easier as well.

Phil Rivers, Chris Ballard, the general manager for the Colts, had his press conference today. He went for a while. And Chris Ballard, by the way, he is one of the most transparent GMs, I think, that we've ever seen maybe in the league. He will talk. Like, he'll sit up there. He's not scared of any question. He's very confident in all the decisions he made and will maybe in the league. He will talk. Like, he'll sit up there. He's not scared of any question.

He's very confident in all the decisions he made and will make in the future. I don't think he lies much. He talked about Phil Rivers. He was asked about Phil Rivers, and he said, you know, Phil will go back and think about it for some time. We'll think about it for some time. Kind of gave himself a little both an out if he needed it in the future without, like, hammering home, like, oh, I love Phil.

He's coming back or whatever. It just seems like there's a chance there's a new quarterback coming in then he was asked if he'll draft the quarterback and his actual answer was if i draft one it'll get you guys off of my ass okay but if it doesn't work out i'll be the first one out the door yeah like it was like it was a very so i think the colts quarterback position is one that will be a storyline this offseason and if they do get maddie staff, I will be fired up about it. I don't think Carson Wentz is on the trading block anymore if what Troy Aikman said on the Michael Irving podcast is accurate

and that Jeff Lurie wanted Carson Wentz to be the guy. Doug Peterson wanted to go to Jalen strictly because of the contract. So, Jesus, there's a lot of shit going on. I had just a tough pill to swallow. All that stuff. Well, so if that, okay, let's say that Carson is the guy, whoever they bring in to be the next head coach has to be on board with Carson being the guy.

And whoever you bring in to interview, that's going to be one of your first questions. Like, how are you, hey, like Carson, you would think the owner is in there saying, hey, Carson's our guy. Are you going to be able to win with him? Yeah, and a lot of people have told us that they would go in there with two ideas, basically.

If you're're do you want to keep Carson here's how I would do it if you don't this is how I would do it I guess that's kind of how it goes but it's very interesting because now that Jalen Hurts is here we gotta trade Jalen then because Jalen probably has is worth something right now yeah and if you trade him that gets rid of the Carson Wentz mental potential hurdle that he couldn't get over this year it's very interesting watching all this shit play out. What's up, Diggs? Does that make that job unattractive because you're already coming in

and already being told which quarterback you have to start? Interesting you say that because I think the narrative around Doug Peterson's hiring with the Eagles was when he was hired, he was young and they could tell him what to do. And then it got to the point now where he's like kind of not about it. So it's like, do you want a head coaching job to have a head coaching job and lead your group, but you're not going to be able to make every decision that other head coaches can make just because you're young.

Maybe this is a first opportunity to get a head coaching gig. That's kind of, I would assume, who you look like. They interviewed Joe Brady, didn't they? I think they interviewed Joe Brady. I don't know. I think they did. They did request Kellen Moore. No, I think they interviewed. They did request Kellen Moore. They did request Kellen Moore, but they also – I think Joe Brady is interviewed don't know. I think they did. Kellen Moore. I think they did request

Kellen Moore. They did request Kellen Moore, but they also I think Joe Brady is interviewed with everybody at this point. I believe was the tweet that I read. The young offensive coordinator for the Carolina Panthers. I'll be intrigued. Eric Biennemi, he's potentially not going to get hired in a lot of offensive

minded owners, I would assume. Who's the – Kafka? Yeah, Mike Kafka. Hold on. We have the graphic. Don't we have the graphic for who's potentially going to be the Philadelphia Eagles head coach? Because that is a situation you're walking into where, holy shit, we've got to settle a lot of problems here.

There's deep issues. Just like the Houston-Texas, we don't have the FanDuel graphic. I thought we had it. Gumpy will get it. The odds are on – the odds on favorite is Bob Salah. He's at like plus 300, plus 240 or something like that. Kafka, who's the director of passing offense or something like that, or coordinator of passing offense for the Chiefs,

he's on there at pretty good odds. If he gets hired over Biennium, that'll be interesting to see how that whole thing plays out there's some other byron left which is on the list there's a couple other they they allegedly want to make a splash hire who knows how that goes would you want that gig over houston's man either one is tough when you think about it yeah i guess you'd have to interview both and see like what their plan is like are they are they going to jam carson and you say hey carson's our guy no matter what you got to make it work and same thing and if i Houston, I'm like, well, what's the roster look like next year?

Who's my quarterback when you're interviewing for that gig? Well, and also, Deshaun was at a Rockets game, James Harden's last Rockets game, against the L.A. Lakers, sitting courtside alongside a man that I didn't know who it was. But then we saw pictures in suites or something like that. He was with Andre Johnson, and that was after Andre Johnson put out the tweet or before? After. After? That was after he put out the tweet?

Yeah. So I wonder if Andre Johnson, I wonder how that whole thing works out, but that's only a situation that's only getting uglier. And if you're the coach, you have to deal with that, by the way. The coach directly has to deal with that. If the player hates the GM, or not GM, the owner, the GM has to deal with that, obviously, whatever. But the coach has to deal with that on a day-to-day basis with players that are getting brought in and cut and everything like that. You have to deal with that, especially if it's a quarterback. It's hard to mend fractured relationships like that, especially if it's gone

that deep with that much support and that loud. But either job is going to be very difficult. Do we have the graphic? Here's the graphic here for the Eagles next head coach. Bob Salaz at plus two hunch. Way to go, Bob. He went to the Jets a couple times as well. The Lions, no way to land them, even though he grew up in Detroit. Will he be a good head coach? Everybody says yes. Calm, cool during the week. Game days, flips the switch. Let's go ahead and have a good time out here. Deuce Staley, running back coach, I do believe for the Eagles currently, plus 700. Brandon Staley, don't know who that is. Jim Caldwell, legend.

He's in there. But Mike Kafka at plus 450, the second favorite to win the Eagles or earn the Eagles head coaching gig, followed by Kellen Moore, Brian Dayball, Eric Biennemi. Very, very interesting there. Lincoln Riley's on the list. These are all odds, so they've done the research on who they think is potentially going to get hired. How about this one?

Nick Saban plus 5,000. Anthony Lynn getting another head coaching gig. Hamilton, the D.C. Defenders head coach. Yep. He's potentially getting a gig. Graham Harrell. Graham Harrell, your guy, AJ. Which one?

Who? Oh, this is a very interesting pool because who wants to take that job knowing that allegedly they're not going to have a lot of power and a lot of the decisions being made, but you are a head coach in the NFL. Who do you think here, AJ? Well, if you're not going to have the power that you would want, if you want to be a head coach, I would think like Mike Kafka or Kellen Moore, like a young guy that you can kind of craft him in and give him his role when he's going to go.

But a guy like old Bob Salad, do you think he's going to sit back and let somebody else make all the decisions for him? Well, and Bob has a lot of opportunities right now, right? So him being the favorite, I guess that's just because he's the next coach up, everybody thinks. But if you're Bob, why are you picking that gig over? Joe Douglas is literally in New York telling you everything that's wrong with the Eagles organization, recruiting him to go coach up there. And it's all kind of playing out publicly. I don't know if they'll be able to get old Bob.

I don't know if they'll be able to get Bob. I'm sure that's something they're worrying about too. Like they're thinking, all right, hey, the top prospects that we want, they may not want to come here if we extend an offer to this guy that's exactly like um that's like the recruiting stories you know because joe douglas knows every single flaw of the eagles organization yeah he he literally like the ins and outs let me tell you what i fucking left okay howie roseman's running g do you want to go head coach john listen even if you don't pick us, I'm just telling you,

that is not the place you want to go. Not Philly. Okay, that's a very tall task that the Eagles organization is up against because every person that interviews with the Jets, if Douglas wants that person, I would assume if it's down to the Eagles or the Jets, Douglas is going to have some things. But now, granted, maybe the Eagles do too, even though it seems like all of the stories coming out are the opposite direction.

That's going to be tough for them to get a hire. Urban Meyer is down in Jacksonville too. You're not going to bring him out of there. Jim Caldwell deserves a gig. I hope he gets it. Wouldn't Dayball make sense with what he's done with Josh Allen? I mean, if there was a guy who could maybe fix Carson Wentz, he might be the guy who could do it.

But if you're Dayball, here's another thing. If you have another successful year at Buffalo, you're going to get more head coaching offers. Do you want to go to a place where you can't do it? I think that is something where, like, Kellen Moore, for instance. Like, he might love that opportunity, right? Like, here we go. I'm a head coach.

Nobody expected me to get this. I've done good with the Dallas Cowboys. You know, Dak had his best year whenever I was calling plays or whatever here we go let me run this thing and then i don't have to worry about all the other bullshit either yet even if i don't want to because you're kind of young and coaching and that whole thing maybe that's the thought you're 100 right probably somebody young i didn't even know kafka existed until today northwestern great yeah i remember when he was at northwestern playing quarterback yeah was that your age my age? I think he's a couple years younger than me. 2010 draft.

Yeah, he's around your age. He would have been at Northwestern while you were at West Virginia. Northwestern sent me a letter to recruitment. Oh, yeah? Really? You had it up there? Well, they checked the grades. Oh.

I didn't get a single letter. Oh, shit. Letter loss. Me and Greenberg, dude. Could have been repping for the Wildcats. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Woo!

Woo! Go, Cats! I didn't know Greeny was a Northwestern guy. Oh, purple all day, dude. What, dude? You didn't know that? No. Broke him out of the huddle.

Makes sense that a lot of the big-time broadcasters did go to Northwestern. No, most Syracuse. But the thing about Greeny with Northwestern is he's been like an honorary captain for them. Oh, yeah. I think he's taken them out of the tunnel. He's let them out of the tunnel. He ran, sprinted out of the tunnel, held the thing while they were just beating the shit out of him. He almost broke his arm.

Yeah. Oh, yeah. You know that? You know that. I do now, yes. Thank you for enlightening me. How did you not know before that, though? That was pretty big.

You definitely knew. You knew. Iening me. How did you not know before that, though? That was pretty big news. I usually don't know some of my favorite broadcasters. I don't know which college most of them went to, but I would always guess Syracuse or Northwestern. Safe guess. Did you ever guess for Greeny?

Nope. I'd have no reason to ever guess a college of any broadcaster. Well, you just said some of your favorite broadcasters. Unprompted. If I was unprompted, I would never expect, hey, man, where in the world did Gary Danielson

go to college? That's never crossed my mind. You're putting Gary Danielson and Mike Greenberg in the same level? What's your deal this week, dude? Mike Greenberg, two Hall of Fames. Bro. Just two Hall of Fames. Do you know who Gary Danielson is? Couldn't even guess. I don't even know if that's a person.

He's probably in a few Hall of Fames, too. Gary Danielson? See the guy that did Happy Gilmore? Vern Lundquist. That guy's a legend. That guy's awesome. I don't know Gary Danielson. Is he the color commentator?

If you heard his voice, you would. No clue. Yeah. Well, shout out to him. Greeny in my eyes. I don't know. I don't know that guy existed. Gary went to Purdue, by the way.

Good to know. So you would have been wrong with your assumptions. You're right. I would have been wrong. Do you have any breaking news yet now that we're 33 minutes into this hour? Come on. Have you gotten any text messages? Is that why your internet crashes because you're getting so much information?

Do we have any breaking news? Yeah, that's what I like to do. I like to really stay in the mix, and I send out like 500 cold texts every day trying to get some info so I can come on here and tell you something. We never said that. We just said in this particular situation, maybe old breaking news came jogging down your incredibly long driveway out there and just showed up in your lobby of your house.

Just showed up, and it just came in. We're not saying that you reached out. We're saying people know you. They reach out to you. Do you have any breaking news that just showed up in your phone or your life? I do not, no. Do you think that Urban Meyer started sprinting down the street and ran up to my front door and told me,

hey, good news, just signed the deal? You guys are doing shows on Wednesdays at his bar. I just assumed that was potential. Dude's on the ground, AJ. That's what we're talking about. What is the purpose here? You were on his boat. You're on his boat.

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, I was. What kind of plane was he on, AJ? It was a Citation. I thought it was a Citation. Have they been tracking him? Have they been doing the whole plane thing or whatever? Yeah, he already landed.

Somebody within the airport took a photo. Kind of creepy, but it is out there. Got him. They're calling it a Learjet. A Lear? I can't tell you what that is. That's a good one, too. It flies.

Ursa would probably send a G7? Five? G5, yeah. I think it's nice. He has three of them. Oh, yeah. So that's probably what you would have got if you came to Indianapolis Urban. But, I mean, you're within a division.

So that's good. Sports show. Big sports show. Sports show. Big sports show. Sports show. A couple things to cover very quickly. I've learned that Mitt has been getting bullied by our callers, basically.

What the hell? Yeah, Mitt said that he's been lied to a couple times. Oh, really? Yeah, because I asked him out there around the water pipe out there, the CBD thing. I said, what the hell is going on back there, pal? Because the P is nowhere near the S on the keyboard. So I didn't even know how we got spam out of Sam. And he said, that guy lied.

And I said, you think people are just kind of bullying you right now? And he said, yeah. So I do have to take that into account that maybe Mitt is getting outwitted and bullied by our callers. And I want to let you know, Mitt, I'm on your side, pal. I'm on your side, Mitt. Good luck, Mitt. He's saying something.

Also, AJ, do you have any breaking news? I do not. Coach Hall. Damn you. No news about the Jacksonville Jaguars at all, about anything going on down there? You and Urban Meyer do shows weekly. He just got hired.

Is there any other hires that we should know about? No, I do not do shows weekly with Urban Meyer, and I have no information. Yeah, you do. You have done one in a week. Anyways, we have breaking news. So just the other day, shows weekly with urban meyer and i have no information you have done one okay anyways we have breaking news uh so just the other day like 10 000 pages were released of declassified alien information and uh i guess the fish that people were fishing for in these documents and whenever

you have a 10 000 page thing you know it's kind of hard to get through i guess and there's professional readers that this is their job to go through this whole thing uh there was allegedly something found in these documents that we should talk about go ahead and make that full screen there foxy if you no just go ahead and take over the full screen with that photo there full screen go ahead and take over that thing this is a reprint from the newspaper Chernobyl Vicherny Cosmic Revenge. First paragraph published in boldface. Text in parenthesize inside of other parenthesize. Oh, yeah.

The fuck is that? After Mikhail Gorbachev dissolved in 1991, the KGB, top secret intelligence administration, a lot of material from that department found their way abroad, in particular to the CIA. As reported by the authoritative magazine Canadian Weekly World News, U.S. intelligence obtained a 250-page file

on the attack by a UFO on a military unit in Siberia. The file contains not only many documentary photographs and drawings, but also testimonies by actual participants in the events. One of the CIA representatives referred to this case as a horrific picture of revenge on the part of extraterrestrial

creatures, a picture that makes one's blood freeze. Jeez. Oh, freeze. Okay. Jeez. Oh, freeze. Okay. I thought it was free. I thought it was really drawing that out. One's blood freeze.

You got to know that it is very, exactly, this is not easy to read. I was like, according to the KGB materials, a quite low-flying spaceship in the shape of a saucer

appeared above a military unit that was the shape of a saucer, nope, conducting routine training maneuvers. For unknown, it's blurry dude for unknown reason somebody unexpectedly launched a surface to air missile and hit the ufo it fell to earth not far away in five short humanoids with large heads and large black eyes emerged from it let's go it is stated in testimonies by the two soldiers who remained alive that after freeing themselves from the debris, the aliens came close together and then merged into a single object that

acquired a spherical shape. That object began to buzz and hiss sharply and then became brilliant white. In a few seconds, the spheres grew much bigger and exploded by flaring up with an extremely bright light. At that very instant, 23 soldiers who had watched the phenomenon turned into stone poles. This is fake.

No way. I don't know. How are we just not hearing about this? Motherfuckers are turning into stone poles? Yeah. My question. Get me out. Get it out.

You should keep going. It gets more absurd. The aliens left survivors to tell this. So you saw the stone poles and you didn't become a stone pole so they have a radius on them?

What are they, like a regional show? They only have a certain bandwidth? There's people outside the bandwidth of three humans becoming one,

shooting up and only certain stone poles happen? It's bullshit. Guys, guys, guys. We learned nothing. Check your sources. We learned nothing. Check your sources. We learned nothing from Jerry Dulac. This is from Russian propaganda

filtered through the CIA. Funneled through Canadian news. I did find it very interesting that we were able to shoot their shit down. You know what I mean? They might have had their shields up on the UFO. Yeah, but I would just assume that they always have the shields up.

If you're flying through Russian airspace, you're going to have your shields up. This UFO. Yeah, but I would just assume that they always have the shields up on the UFO. If you're flying through Russian airspace, you're going to have your shields up. This is the first time. They allegedly hopped. Three of them just went, just walked into each other. They have their shields up at all fucking times. We got dolphins swimming around ships out at sea to protect. You don't think that the aliens in their UFO

always have just something around it? When you're flying around Earth and you're never getting shot down until now, what it seems like're probably not we can't trust the kids you be I think I turn to limestone. That's like the worst out Limestone oh yeah pretty good marble though is one you'd wish for a better one Yeah, hey isn't there is there a follow-up to this though like I cannot imagine we shot down an alien spacecraft There's five humanoids walk out. We take them to a secret facility and then that's it. They don't come back. They lost.

They did not get taken. They repaired the craft and got out of there after they killed everyone. They hopped into a three-person starship that they created themselves and just dipped out. Fixing jet. Let's get back to sports. It's bullshit. Those dudes, imagine

them covering a kick though. Three of them fucking shooting's get back to sports. It's bullshit. Those dudes, imagine them covering a kick, though. Oh, man. Three of them, burp, burp, fucking shooting. Everybody turns to stone. Fucking dead. Everybody. Let's get them on to special teams. What's up, Diggs?

If we are getting back to sports, breaking news. John Wolford is out for the Packers game. Yeah, COVID? No. Oh, because the neck. Broke his neck. Okay, John Wolford, T's and P's to your recovery for the shot that you took on your head,

which led to what we think is a neck injury, which led to a photo of you getting into an ambulance that was one of the most scary things I saw on the internet over the weekend. Happy to hear he's okay. He's out. That means it's golf time. Now, you would think that it would be golf time

because it's a divisional round playoff game and he's your quarterback that you paid $100 million to, but instead that was still a question for a little bit for whatever reason. Goff versus Rodgers in Lambeau officially now that Wolford's been ruled out. Tees and peas to the neck, pal. We enjoyed watching you play the football. Blake Bortles officially the backup for that game.

Blake Bortles,aron rogers might happen this weekend in lambeau let's keep our eyes peeled what were you gonna say aj that's i was just gonna ask about bortles so yeah now bortles is in play like he easily could be in a duel with aaron rogers in the playoffs what's blake bortles been up to i i i hanging i suppose he's to get out there and ball out, by the way. Let's not forget, Blake Bortles took that Jacksonville Jaguars team. Think about that. The same ones that just hired Urban Meyer, have the number one overall pick, everything like that. He took that team just a few years ago.

AFC Championship game. And if they didn't take a damn knee before half and they let Blake cook, they'd probably win that AFC Championship game. Represent in the Super Bowl. Now, that has been some time. That has been some time and those are very different teams all of a sudden. But Blake Bortles will go out there and cook some shit.

Don't get it twisted about Blake Bortles. I watched him score a touchdown against us in London then punt the ball into the stands. Very good punt. Bombed that thing. No penalty. No penalty at all. A lot of questions were asked to the ref.

Called a fucking false start on me for a hard count on an extra point. Vinny had to kick a fucking damn near 40-yard extra point in London. Was not thrilled about that. But it was a Walt Anderson bullshit call. Blake Bortles can ball, AJ, can't he? Yeah, Blake can play. There's something about it. Like, guys that get thrown in there with nothing to lose, I feel like.

Yeah, it could go the other way, too. Yeah. Hadn't played in a while. Bet on that one. He's also got acclimated to the cold weather being in Denver and the snow and whatnot. That does worry me a little bit. Oh, that Blake's been there, done that. My high, actually.

He's been fucking snowboarding while playing football. Blake's awesome. Anytime Blake's in the NFL, it's good for everybody. Boats don't sail in Green Bay. That's funny. All right. The thought of, man, they're going to win by 50. I've got to stop saying it.

I've got to stop saying it. You really do need to stop saying it. Because Ty is not happy about it. How does Green Bay not win this by 100? Oh, no. What happened? Foxy just. Hey.

There's no such thing as curse as Foxy said. Well, there isn't. It's all a joke. I think the only thing that could really make Packer fans worry is if they fall behind early. Like, we know if the Packers jump out, let's say they look like they do a lot this year, and Aaron just systematically moves down the field, boom, 7-0.

Defense gets a stop. They go up 10 or 14-0 early, and Aaron just systematically moves down the field. Boom, 7-0. Defense gets a stop. They go up 10 or 14-0 early in the – maybe early in the second quarter. That's when you've got to worry because I don't know if the Rams are built to come from behind like that. I agree. We don't know what that Rams team looks like with Blake Bortles. That's true. We do not know what that looks like.

Let's get to the phones, shall we? Hey, you're making all your picks tomorrow, right? All of them, yeah. Sure. Let's go. Are you comfortable shall we? Hey, you're making all your picks tomorrow, right? All of them. Yeah. Sure. Let's go. Are you comfortable and confident in the picks you're going to make? Absolutely.

How do you feel about our guy Lombo Bombo this morning? Fucking Lombardi breaking the news about Urban Meyer. Yeah. How did he become the guy to break it? I don't know. He's got people. He does. He knows everybody.

You're right. He does. Did I saw Schefter tweeted shortly afterwards and kind of had his version of this. now he's got people he does he knows everybody you're right he does did uh i saw shepard tweeted shortly afterwards and kind of had his version of this well it wasn't just i mean every insider had a quick follow-up about because i would assume every insider knew that something was probably about to happen but they were being told that it hasn't officially happened yet so they're waiting on it they're waiting on it but they i think they all i don't they probably didn't know that the rest of the world didn't know that that was definitely happening you know so i think olombo got the bombo and said hey here we go that's what i'm

being told if you guys want to know he dipped his toes into the breaking news pond this morning and there's a couple places that have given him credit. There's some that have not. But it feels like every piece of information everybody has at some point. Well, yeah, the fact that Lombardi said there's a press conference later today, have we seen anything? Have the Jacksonville said anything about scheduling any kind of media availability? That's a great question. Maybe Lombo did.

Maybe this is a Diggs-like thing. That is what Schefter later said, is that no press conference today as of yet. He got the most important part. But Urban Meyer did land in Jacksonville. Came off a Learjet, we learned, by the way. He got the most important part correct. That's all that matters. Just like you, Tony.

Just like you. Can't be caught up in all the minutia surrounding it. You've got to let the sun shine through. That's right. Amen, COVID Cowboy. New t-shirt. Hey, pink sky at night? Sailor's delight.

Pink sky in the morning? That's the sailor's warning, Pat. Go to Heath in Iowa. Thank you, Cowboy. How's it going? I'd like to congratulate AJ on a potential new job in Jacksonville. Hey, AJ, congrats. Getting breaking news, dude.

Thank you. If I get offered, I will accept. I'll let you know right now. Breaking news. All right. I'd like to know the potential landing spots for JJ Watt. What do you think? Him going to the Packers and giving that hometown discount.

That would be interesting, him going to the Packers. They love him up in Wisconsin, I would assume. Add him to the rotation there, into the pressure room, defensive end, outside linebackers. Steelers, you know, why not the Steelers? They're losing Bud Dupree. Bud Dupree is going to go to the market. He's going to be elsewhere.

A couple watts off the edge. Derek playing fullback special teams. I would assume there's a couple different landing spots. How about the Chargers? You look at teams that care deeply about their defensive line. Look for them to bring him in to be like, okay, here we go. I have a question because Bud just posted on his Instagram that he was in the Steelers facility rehabbing he's a free agent how long do you still rehab with the team that

you're with before you become a free agent is like is that the new year is that march one or something like that is that what it is aj do you know yeah probably it's probably march 1st or march 15th like whatever the first day of the league year is then i guess you're officially a free agent he's officially still on the team until that day. Where do you think JJ's going, dude? Steelers. Don't you think that would be number one on his list if he enjoys being around his brothers? Yeah, go play for the Steelers, a team that can win

and you get to play with both your brothers. How often does that happen? Yeah, it would be pretty cool, I'd assume, for them. Better take a hell of a haircut. Yeah. It's kind of a cowboy from Pittsburghittsburgh jesus dude i mean unbelievable i would assume he would by the way as digs got as digs gotten to speak to whatever weed boy 420 or whatever that broke the news that's a better name i like their name a lot hey we had a zoom call last night to congratulate each other we're sipping cognac. A sip of

cognac. Let's go to Greg in Texas. What's going on, Greg? Hey, what's going on, guys? How y'all doing? Cool. Hook'em, bro. Hey, that accent is awesome, Greg. Hey, man. Natural. Just born with it, baby. I agree. Canway, what do you want to talk about?

Man, I want to talk about I was pissed off in the offseason when the Cowboys didn't go ahead and give an odd old Kellen Moore to be the head coach there. Instead, we're stuck with this stooge McCarthy. And I don't know. It's very uncharacteristic of Jerry Jones. But how long until next season do you think before they fire him and go ahead and make him?

Greg's got no fucking hope in that Cowboys team. How many losses we got to go through before they fire this guy? I wonder if that's how all of Dallas feels about your guy, AJ. I don't know. I mean, I guess they're going to – man, he better come out of the gates hot next year. It sounds like he – They need to come out and go 6-0 to shut people up. It sounds like that is the case.

I mean, you got Dan Quinn over there calling that defense. Bring it back. You know what I mean? Bring him back. Mike McCarthy on the offensive side. Dan Quinn on the defensive side. Let's go. Let's go win this thing in 2015.

Bring in Freddie Kitchens. Say that I'm 14. Let's go get it, dude. It's pretty amazing how quickly, like, you can come in. Oh, this is a great hire. You and Jerry get along. You're playing well. Oh, go get it, dude. It's pretty amazing how quickly you can come in. Oh, this is a great hire. You and Jerry get along. You're playing well. Oh, my starting quarterback goes out.

I should be fired after my first season here in the middle of, what, a five-year deal? You're saying people look quick to judge. Is that what you're saying? Yeah, and who knows if it's going to work out or not. None of us know. But I'm like, man, if I'm going to hire a head coach, I guess you've got to give him at least two seasons, but if it if it is one thing though if an owner or

gm decides to move on from a player or a coach early and they're like you know what hey my mistake i messed up this shouldn't happen this person shouldn't be here push them let's let them go like that's better than trying to hold on to somebody just because it's one of your guys and by the way i mean you can even win a super bowl and be fired early you know what i mean shout out doug peterson statue let's go to craig in alabama and a statue yeah let's go to craig in alabama And, by the way, I mean, you can even win a Super Bowl and be fired early. You know what I mean? Shout out to Doug Peterson. He's got a statue. He's got a Craig in Alabama and a statue. He's got a Craig in Alabama.

What's going on, Craig? What's up, guys? Huge fan of the show. My wife's actually making fun of me because I was excited for getting through. Huge fan. A.J., huge fan. Yeah. A.J., something to watch out for when you send in your resume to Jacksonville.

You could possibly be working for Luke Bickle as the defensive coordinator down there because I don't see why they wouldn't bring him in with the pass he's got with Ohio State. And also, when are we going to start bringing context back into football conversations? I called Tua being a bust. If you look at the context of what was around him in Alabama, it was right there for eyes to see.

Right there for the eyes to see. Right there for the eyes to see. I love that guy. I fucking love that guy. Just make a statement and be like, what's your excuse? It's right there. We all fucking saw it. Craig, appreciate you, buddy.

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You know, let's make it a little bit of an agreement here. We'll come together. We don't like each other. We'll go separate ways, but we won't tell anybody about it. We'll just keep it moving. Keep your mouth shut. You don't tell anybody about it. You know, let's make it a little bit of an agreement here. We'll come together. We don't like each other. We'll go separate ways, but we won't tell anybody about it. We'll just keep it moving. Keep your math shut.

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