The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 334 - OVERREACTION MONDAY, NFL Divisional Playoffs Recap, Allen Lazard, Ian Rapoport, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: January 18, 2021

On today's show, Pat and the boys overreact to everything that happened during the Divisional Round of the playoffs including Patrick Mahomes potentially being injured for their showdown against the Bills, the Packers taking care of the Rams and looking very good in the process, Tom Brady and the Bucs eliminating the Saints and potentially ending Drew Brees' career as they look ahead at the NFC and AFC Championships. Joining the show after catching 4 passes for 96 yards and a touchdown, is WR for the Green Bay Packers, Allen Lazard. Pat and Allen chat about this Packers team that seems to be peaking at the right time, how good Davante Adams is, what it's like catching passes from Aaron Rodgers, his juice preferences, being nick named the Lizard King, and much more (21:50-38:11). Next, NFL Network Insider and friend of the program Ian Rapoport joins the show to chat about the different coaching hires, who could still potentially end up where, if the DeShaun Watson news is accurate, and everything else we need to know heading into Conference Championship weekend (41:27-1:03:04). Later, Pat and AJ Hawk chat about Urban Meyer's first hire in Jacksonville, the games this weekend and give an early indication of who they like in the Conference Championships, chat about Jack Easterby's meteoric rise throughout the NFL and the expose written about him in SI, and have a lengthy discussion about team chaplains, pastors, and priests (1:24:58-2:06:13). Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow and listen every day on Mad Dog Radio, Sirius XM Channel 82. We appreciate you all for listening, come and laugh with us, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello! Overreaction Monday, January 18th. A lot of things to talk about. Let's get to it. Today, we get a chance to talk about the Final Four in this 2020 NFL season. We get a chance to talk about the NFC Championship being set up with two old goats. The old guards of goats are taking each other on in the most old and iconic stadium in our sport. Tom Brady and the Buccaneers travel to Aaron Rodgers, the MVP of the NFL 2020 season in the Green Bay Packers. Both teams seem to be playing their absolute best at the right time. The only negative on both teams seems to potentially be their special teams.

That cancels each other out. How is Tom Brady going to do against that Green Bay Packers defense that got hot just this weekend? How's Aaron Rodgers going to do against that Green Bay Packers defense that got hot just this weekend? How's Aaron Rodgers going to do against the Tampa Bay Buccaneer defense that did give him problems earlier in the year, but they are both much different teams now than they were in week six. That Tampa Bay Buccaneers defense last night sent Drew Brees off into alleged retirement.

Jay Glazer broke that story. Not me. Stop fucking tweeting me about it. Jay Glazer broke that story. Sent Drew Brees into retirement with like three interceptions, four turnovers altogether. That team's flying around just like they were at one point in the season when we said, hey, listen, although the offense of the Buccaneers is absolutely loaded, the defense is also playing great. That kind of disappeared for a while. Is that team all the way back with Vontae David looking like he runs a 4-2 with a maybe

north of 250 pounds it looks like. Leonard Fournette started playing great. The Tampa Bay Buccaneers and Tom Brady go into Green Bay and are going to have a legendary game against an offense that looks to be unguardable. At one point in that Packers-Rams

game, it became down to like within seven. It was getting close. Then all the Packers did is exactly what the Chiefs have been known for doing, which is just step on the gas pedal and go ahead and pull away. That Packers offense is something to watch. The defense played great. How are they going to fare in the NFC? Who's going to represent the NFC in the Super Bowl?

That's going to be a great game. I have no idea which way I'm leaning, but tomorrow we'll talk to one of the quarterbacks, Aaron Rodgers, for another incredible edition of Aaron Rodgers Tuesday. Then, in the AFC, you kind of got the young guard of goats. Okay? Josh Allen, Patrick Mahomes. The next two,

probably. And in this championship weekend, three quarterbacks have pretty much cemented their enshrinement into Canton. Obviously, Tom and Aaron have, but I think Patrick Mahomesomes at this point probably already going to be a Hall of Famer. And that fourth quarterback, Josh Allen, he'll probably go on to earn that honor as well.

The way Josh Allen and the Buffalo Bills have been playing is awesome to watch. The Buffalo Bills have a tag team on the offensive side of the ball. Now, no offense, Cole Beasley, who gave us a very terrible interview last week, not because of what he was saying, but because of the sounds around there.

But Josh Allen and Stephon Diggs are awesome. Stephon Diggs can go whenever he has to go, and that Buffalo Bills team has been a culture that has been built under Sean McDermott for some time now. But who are you playing? The big bad wolf. Who's the big bad wolf? The team that lost their stud quarterback,

half a billion dollar quarterback in the third quarter, and Chad fucking Henney came in and got them to win Andy Reid walked around with massive balls whenever he calls a fourth and one basically to send your team to the AFC championship with Chad Henney as your quarterback on your own side of the field what a play call what a play by Chad Henney in that Chiefs team just like they have all year whenever they need to win they go ahead and do it it makes no sense i have no clue who's going to win this weekend that's why this week your conversation is going to be fantastic big

guest today ian rapoport will be joining us all the inside information happening not only with the teams playing this upcoming championship weekend but also all the bullshit cooking around the nfl you got coaches being hired news that could have been broken on this show and kind of was but news that could have officially been broken on this show didn't break on the show broke over the weekend schlegel anthony schlegel one of the buckeye heroes you see that's aj hawk up there in the front that's general bob carpenter on the Buckeye Heroes. You see, that's A.J. Hawk up there in the front. That's General Bob Carpenter on the one side of the Buckeye Heroes box.

And then here's Anthony Schlegel. Anthony Schlegel, also the man, that rock-bottomed, old, drunk white that was storming the field at Ohio State. He is now the strength coach for Urban Meyer and the Jacksonville Jaguars. Excited to see what's being built down there. Who's getting hired where? Is Deshaun Watson going to end up at the Jets now? Is he going to end up at Miami? Is Deshaun Watson on the move or is he going to end

up having to reconcile? Reconcile. Thank you. Is another word as well. Reconciliation. That was tough there. The brain was rolling. Are they going to be able to reconcile that Because reconcil – is another word as well. Reconciliation. Okay. That was tough there.

Brain was rolling. But anyways, are they going to be able to reconcile that situation down there in Houston with Deshaun Watson and Casario and Cal McNair? Everybody's saying no. So he's going to be on the move. He says, I was on two, then I took it to ten. Wild stuff. Ian Rappaport will break that all down. Then we got the Lizard King, Alan Lazard, 125 125 eastern standard joining us wide receiver for the green bay packers had a hail of a tud over down the middle uh this

past weekend at tone digs all afc north teams have been eliminated once there was three now there was none your team was the first the other two got knocked out uh how do you feel about the way the playoffs are sitting tone digs uh i think they could wrap it up now um over the last month the packers have given up 16 14 16 and now 18 they figured out on the defensive side and with rogers on the offensive side packers are your super bowl champion it feels like you're not the only one saying that by the way the tide has certainly turned behind the green and yellow green and yellow shout out toon chi by the way with the remix to green and yellow this weekend he put out by the way it reminded me that black and yellow beat is insane. I don't know who made it for Wiz back in the day, but if you get a Toon green and yellow come out and then the team starts

playing the way they're playing, the only potential problem could lie in your special teams. This particular weekend seems like that might be a little bit of a chess match there between who can't make the worst play basically between the two but they everybody likes the Packers now feels like everybody likes the Packers at Boston Connor wearing your New England Patriot gear proudly there's a lot of stats that go into the conversation when talking about the Patriots with and without Tom Brady and Belichick with or without Tom Brady but as a man who is a fan for the Patriots for so long has to feel good to get a chance to watch your guy who led you to so much happiness over your time, the guy that ended up walking out amicably, obviously,

and having success. That had to feel good for a New England Patriot fan like yourself. Well, I'm just so happy that Tom can finally be Tom. You know, Rob Gronk can just finally be Gronk on that field. Oh, yeah, yeah. By the way, that was something said last night during the game. Gronk said they let you be your real self. And then Bruce Arians came out either after the game or something and said,

yeah, something that I guess they didn't let him do. Sometimes I'll just sit back. Fuck, I'll just go ahead and tell him. I'll just go ahead and let Tom coach. And I don't know if they did that in New England. Gronk's saying he could be himself. What the fuck is going on up there, dude? Are they ever going to be able to get another player up there in New England?

What's going to happen? The Death Star runs a tight ship, okay? If you're not going to let everyone be themselves, at least you've got to win and that's what was happening. But no, everything's crumbling. I am, in fact, rooting for Brady, even though he did break my heart. I'm at the point now where it's like, this is greatness. If he goes on to

win a seventh Super Bowl, we'll probably never see that again. It's unbelievable. He's very good at the football. Yeah. And the ball was coming out of his hand last night. It was popping. Whenever he threw that touchdown to Mike Evans on Lattimore, where he kind of just like boxed them out or whatever and taunted,

and then he put the replay on it, and it was in slow motion. There wasn't even a thought of that ball breaking up no okay you saw a lot of drew's balls right breaking up which is what we listen he had a great run all right he played for a long time you know what i mean had a hell of a career through the ball very well congrats to him on everything ty probably not echoing those sentiments but hell of a football career well i mean but you see sometimes the his ball would break up you know and you see some other quarterbacks who whenever they throw the ball breaks up but it still gets there Peyton said I threw a lot of

wobbly touchdowns or something like that like it's okay Tom's ball is still Aaron's ball by the way if you look at it it just absolutely snapping off laser bottom like that thing is coming out much differently than it is on the other side and that's because avocado ice cream oh yeah this guy's gonna be able to play forever jogging off the field Alex Guerrero's there dapping him differently than it is on the other side and that's because avocado ice cream oh yeah you guys gonna be able to play forever jogging off the field alex guerrero's there dapping him up in new orleans how you doing big hugs i'll wait for you let's go in the locker room tom you know what i mean oh yeah remember somewhere else he wasn't even allowed in the building oh build another building see you guerrero's in there high five and hey boys try this scoop of ice cream it's good

keep this going it was nice it was a hell of a game. But, I mean, big Jim Winston starts. Are we talking about the New Orleans Saints and the NFC Championship? It's a copycat league, they say. If something works, you're going to see it again. Bucs defense coordinator Todd Bowles saw that play. The Bears tried to run it against the Saints almost successfully, except for old Buddy dropping it. And Todd Bowles said, they ain't going to fucking do that to us.

They did. Hey, the Saints said, bring it back, bring it back. We'll do that shit next week. Because they're probably looking at it on film, and if you watch it, dude's wide open. And normally whenever everybody's kind of running away from a thing and you run a reverse, right, you're trying to get everybody away, you throw it back to where the first person came from.

So everybody kind of just naturally favors going to that field. He was coming the complete opposite way, looking over the opposite shoulder, by the way. I assume that when the Saints saw that play design, now granted, they had it covered okay. If the dude doesn't fall and whims, yes, whims, doesn't drop it. I mean, it's a touchdown. They had a pretty good cover.

But I would assume they watched film of it, and they said, oh, shit, this is going to be tough. This is going to be very tough. And then he's busting out. It worksames winston by the way fresh off the bench yawning potentially on the sideline fresh off the bench in there watching his film he goes through every i guess his work ethic they said has gone through the roof i would assume whenever his people were coming out and saying that he's going to new orleans to go to the harvard of quarterbacks i would assume he's used this year to get even better.

His warm-ups are still wild, but I guess there's a lot of weird warm-ups that quarterbacks do. He dropped that thing in a bucket, and then Drew Brees goes on to struggle the next couple of series. The internet got loud for Joe. The internet got very loud. Then, obviously, there's that moment where Drew Brees says, hey, this is your team now or whatever.

That was obviously very sentimental that they caught it on camera too. That's wild. Because think about how quick that conversation is that they caught that on camera i wonder how long they were next to each other uh yeah old jamis winston probably potentially leader of the saints for the next 10 years the good news is they're only like 90 million over the cap yeah they don't have a lot of draft picks you know what i mean who knows what's gonna happen there i mean that's that's Jameis' squad now, though. I got a good chuckle because after the touchdown, they showed Jameis on the sideline with the Microsoft Surface Pro looking at what the defense was doing.

The receiver was open by 30 yards. He shook his head, too. Just checking. He was probably looking at what other plays were, not just that one. A little respect for Jameis. At Ty Schmidt, owner of the Green Bay Packers. I saw you put out a little bit of a desperation tweet last night. But I put a satellite on that thing.

Yeah, you did. I'm going to make it big as possible because I do believe it's great for all of us in a selfish way, but even better for you if you were in Lambeau there for NFC Championship weekend. Hell, yeah. Did you get any responses? Are you going to have tickets? And how pumped are you that Tom Brady and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers

have to come to Lambeau and beat your red-hot Packers? Very, very excited about that. Probably would have rather played the Saints, obviously, with Breeze's noodle arm outside in Lambeau. It's supposed to be really cold and snowy on Sunday. But, yeah, I mean, I think Rodgers and Brady is the matchup that we all wanted. I mean, I haven't got to see it. I mean, in the playoffs at least, you know, I've never seen it.

I have gotten quite a few responses from people. It sounds like it's going to be very hard to get tickets, but I do think I have a lead, and I think I will be there. Everybody says so many bad things about social media, man. You know? And a lot of idiots out there abuse social media. Sure. You know what I mean?

Make it a bad place. But if it wasn't for social media, there's no way old Ty Schmitz and goddamn Lambeau. No. No way at all. No way at all. Only like 6,500 tickets are going on sale, too. I mean, it's all season ticket holders. I am not a season ticket holder.

So I really needed the stars to align a miracle to happen. Orion's Belt, bro. Yeah, exactly. Orion's Belt. It's not a done deal yet, but I am very confident that I will be there on Sunday.

All right. I have a couple recommendations. Have you been to a game there before? Oh, never mind. Well, how long ago? A long time ago. I've never seen Rodgers play there. Okay.

So there's a bar there. They're going to tell you Mason Crosby owns it. He does not. Okay. Whoa. But they got good food. Then across the street, there's a little kitchen looking fucking place, right?

Looks like you're walking into somebody's living room. It's a full sports bar, and there are people blacked out there 11 a.m. Okay. Okay. I'm excited for that. Right across. That's where the Butter Burger is, and then the Cheese Curds. Yeah, yeah. Right there. Okay. So you got to do that. the uh butter butter burger butter burger is and then the cheese uh cheese curds yeah yeah right

there okay so you got to do that then right across from lambo there's this big like uh uh tubing hill gotta do it gotta do it done i mean it's a good time they have a whole touchdown or title town or whatever it is because a lot of people travel in for those games yep so a lot of green bay packers fans don't live in green bay yeah especially during the winter i'd assume a lot of them potentially have houses elsewhere they'll fly in for the games. Yep. So a lot of Green Bay Packers fans don't live in Green Bay. Yeah. Especially during the winter. I'd assume a lot of them potentially have houses elsewhere. They'll fly in for the games and then it's just like shit to do. Like they are expecting visitors and they're expecting green. The Green Bay Packers like Hall of Famer Museum is fucking huge.

Yep. It is like an actual, they do it in a very smart way. If you're out of town going there. It was very impressive to me. I'm like, this is a very good idea. I was shocked at how many people tweeted at me and said they were flying into Green Bay from somewhere else without tickets. I don't know with COVID what is allowed still. I know you can't tailgate or anything like that, so I'll be excited to see what the atmosphere is.

It will be good. That was the place, I think, I forget if it was some hardware store. Ace, maybe? Might have been Ace Hardware. We were turning turning in there because you're driving through just neighborhoods because it just pops up in the middle of the neighborhood and we turn there's an ace hardware and it was fucking lit people standing in the place baby standing in there like uh they had like uh overalls on there like car hard overalls super cold over just fucking, or actually they were shirtless because when we played them it was hot out.

But Carhartt's on, stand and have a good time. I'm like, that is the best hardware store I've ever seen in my entire life. It's like Green Bay is special. It's a very special place if you go there. I think if you're a Packers fan, it's obviously great. If you're not a Packers fan, you probably won't enjoy it because everything is curtailed to a Packers fan. It's traveling into town.

And if I remember correctly, I may have to make my way up to the Oneida Casino because it is very giving. It is a giving tribe. The Oneidas are a giving tribe, and I'm very thankful for them. Just stay at that Radisson and make it easy on yourself. Good place to stay.

You're by the airport, and the casino's right there. Yeah, because if you have to travel now, traveling from, like, I don't want to say village, but like town to town, you're driving through, and the weather obviously gets a bit sketchy. I was in a minivan Uber. I'm very thankful that the driver was comfortable because I was not. I mean, it was great, but there is a little bit of a haul out to the Oneida Casino. Man, I'm pumped for you going to that game.

Team looks very good. Aaron just looks so comfortable. No long-jaw underwear on, by the way. He didn't even think it was that cold. Exactly. When I saw that, I was like, oh, it's not even that cold or whatever. That Rams team, I think we all kind of knew what was going to happen against that Packers squad.

What are they going to do going forward? What's McVay going to do? Is Goff's contract is worse than Wentz, I guess? That was a tweet yesterday. Like, you think Wentz's deal is bad for a trade wait till you see what Goff's is I guess it's like 60 some million 62 point something million owed or whatever I mean that that whole team's gonna be interesting to watch too and he really didn't play that I mean he was terrible on third down but like if you look at his numbers like he he put I mean I think that was about as good as he could have played against

them and still it just like that at no point did it feel like the Packers were in danger of losing that game or not being in control. They were only down seven, but then Rodgers missed that. It would have been like a 92-yard touchdown. Lazard had a big drop. It never really felt like they were in danger of losing any momentum or actually losing the game. That's the last couple games, it feels like.

Yeah. And by the way, they're covered. Yes, they did. Shout out to them. I mean, they're covered. Yes, they did. They should have probably won by 30. Kudos to you. Thank you. I feel like I had a pretty good read on that. I get a lot of tweets from people about my rough gambling weekend.

I don't think so. I went 3-2 if you count my Travis Kelsey over bet as soon as I saw him dancing in a Showtime cam. What about the Pens? I saw him dancing in a Showtime. Oh, yeah, I won 2-1. No, thank you. Even though the Pens lost, I still won.

And they beat the Capitals, too. So I actually got that one right. So I'm actually 3-1 now in my hockey bets. Nice. Fuck you. Pretty good. People are coming after me as if I'm cold. Yeah, I get it.

Pat's pick did not play out because I've got to get that in like three days ahead of the game, okay? So it is great the boosts are great okay the boosts are unbelievable and I still would have played it by the way I didn't think the Ravens are going to do what the Ravens did two missed kicks and 101 yard pick six oh and by the way two missed kicks and that wind by the way Justin Tucker don't you worry about it pal all right and there's no way Tucker's still thinking about it because the professional is you have to move on or whatever but I from what the way they were talking and then you saw

the pants of the refs going at one point that looked like an absolute nightmare to kick in but anyways two kicks in a 101 yard pick six raven still covered there is what we're looking for uh but aside from that i feel like i got a pretty good read on some things now granted granted the chiefs didn't cover okay Okay. Thought the Chiefs were going to cover. How about the bronze, dude? It was there. Hey, it was there. Hey, it was there. Great year. Hey, Dog Pound, great year. Dog Pound, a hell of a year, man. What a run, dude. What a run. First time in, what, 24 years you get a win or whatever? This is it. Let's go.

This is a good time. Dog pound's going, you know? Oh, yeah. Celebrations everywhere. Jarvis comes on our show. He said, I love to practice. Our building loves to practice. We were mad we couldn't practice from COVID.

We love practice. They got the culture in there. Get your head coach back. Patrick Mahomes gets tapped out with a nerve thing, I guess. I guess it wasn't a concussion they're saying or something like that. It was a nerve that kind of put his body out. Who knows? Whatever it is, happy he's okay. He was tweeting afterward, looks scary when a half a billion dollar guy, face of the franchise, kind of stumbles off there. Whoever this is, Carrington

Harrison, who does have a checkmark, sources told me Patrick passed all of his tests last night. He didn't actually hit his head. There was a nerve in his neck that got tweaked that made him out of it. He's getting testing done on his neck nerve today, but did clear all tests last night. We do not know, once again, we do not have a clue who the fuck Carrington Harrison is. We appreciate Carrington Harrison's work.

So Carrington Harrison's going to clip this, and the part that's going to make his people upset is me saying, we don't have a clue who the fuck Carrington Harrison is. Carrington Harrison, I appreciate you. I want to let you know that. But I'm just saying that I don't know who you are. I'm assuming you're a solid source. We're assuming you are.

We're not 100% sure. Allegedly at this point. Yeah, this is us saying like, yo, okay, if this is not accurate, Carrington's the guy. Right. Anytime you're coming out and you're posting things like this about, you know, the league's biggest player basically at this point, I mean, and the future and everything like that, and it's a big deal because he comes out of a divisional round game,

which they could have very easily lost in saying, you know, it was actually a nerve neck thing. Okay, that's great. Carrington, if that's right, which we assume it is easily lost in saying, you know, it was actually a nerve neck. Okay, that's great. Carrington, if that's right, which we assume it is, by the way, that's good news for the Chiefs. But, man, that thing for the Browns was right there. Oh, my God, it was right there. Now the fourth and one, nobody, including Tony Romo,

obviously thought that they were going to go for it, which, by the way, I believe Warren Sharp would say loves that play because he said to us at the end of the quarter when everybody thinks you're just going to let the quarter run out, you're kind of relaxed, that's a good time to take advantage of people. What if Chad Henney, 35 years old, he's on a sharp analysis, and he's like, you know what, actually fucking check, check. He's got a point. Let's go. He's got a point.

That's unbelievable on that play call. That is unbelievable. And Tyreek Hill obviously opened. Chad Henney rolls to his right, throws a seed, by the way. Absolute perfect ball. He slides in. Game over. But, man, if you're a Browns fan, what a hell of a run.

It's going to be great next year. But it was there. Like, this game was there for you. Yeah, I feel terrible for the Browns fans. Because if you lose the patch from your homes and the Chiefs, it's like, hey, we gave it our best effort. But then Chad Henney comes in and you can't pull that one off. That's going to hurt all season long.

Yeah, but it was a red hot Chad Henney. It was. How about whenever he got out to the left and he started running? And I thought he was going to potentially Elway that thing. I thought he was going, yeet, dolphin. Yeet, yeet. And he's going to get twisted. Instead, he says, no, I'm low on his shoulder.

Too low, though. Too low. He goes and pivots off the elbow right off the ground. Now, I still think that was a lot closer. Like, on the review, they were basically saying, like, hey, by the way, shout out to us. Yeah. Great ad. But they were saying, like, basically whenever they reviewed it, they said, no, he didn't make it or whatever.

I thought that was potentially at a little bit of an angle there. You know, those angles, if it's not exactly... It's interesting. I don't know. And the pylon cam was just a smidge in front of the actual... It was because the stick. What are we doing? I don't know. But Chad Henne gave his all. Probably just earned himself, what, 20 to 30

years on television being an expert. He might get $20 million a year next year. He deserves it. What a play. Saved the Chiefs season this year. Fourth deserves it. What a play. Saved the Chiefs season this year. Fourth and one. What a call. Good for them. Joining us now is a man who had a massive touchdown.

Long ball. Grabbed it with his fingertips. Secured it. Scored a touchdown. Celebrated with his friends. Ladies and gentlemen, a man who was undrafted out of Iowa State, spent some time at Jacksonville. Then he went on to the Green Bay Packers.

This year, had a massive start to the season. Got hurt. Had surgery. Was out. Came back. Making plays. And I do believe I just watched a video that he put out where they called him the Lizard King.

Ladies and gentlemen, Alan Lazar. What's going on, it's good thanks for having me hey thank you lizard king is that your is that the nickname the lizard king yep yep i've kind of been uh going with that whole thing now you know my whole life my last name lazard obviously spelled just like lizard, just replacing the I with an A. So growing up, a lot of people have mispronounced my last name several times, calling me lizard. So I've always kind of had that name kind of hovering around me growing up and everything. And I think as I've obviously grown up and been born in the spotlight, a lot more people have kind of embraced that. But obviously, Robert California with the famous, famous life in the office kind of just put the, put the punch right where it needed to be.

You know, it's like Geico Gecko, you know, that's the same type of thing. Have you seen True Detective with the Lizard King? Um, I haven't. No, I haven't. Oh, yeah. Good. Don't, don't watch it.

Don't watch it. You good? I'm great. You look good over there, man. Are we in your room right now? Where are we at? We're in my little loft area. Just hanging out upstairs.

Got a nice little spot in Green Bay. You know, being in Green Bay, people obviously complain, saying it's not the big city and all that, but rent is very cheap here in a lot of states, which I love. So I'm loving living here in Green Bay. I got a nice little lot of my basement set up for me to go out there and chill out and hang out with the boys when I need to and just be in my space to be the best me. We saw MVS's house, I believe, was massive as well.

You guys seem to be having a great time right now. This offense seems to be almost unstoppable at this point. Whenever you guys need to turn it on, you can turn it on. When you scored your touchdown, obviously, massive moment. But in the offense itself, do you guys feel, and yourself included, like every single play feels like we can make a big play? It feels like every single play could be a massive play, especially with the guy that's throwing the ball.

Yeah, definitely having Aaron Rodgers back there kind of run the show helps tremendously. But, you know, really it's the other 10, 9 guys on the field as well. You know, I think we have very talented top to bottom through our entire roster. Offensively, you know, we have a great O-line, great running backs, and obviously Devontae leading our receiving room as well. We feel like we have weapons top down to the board and everything.

So, yeah, like you said, it doesn't matter what play they call, we go out there with the confidence and the belief in ourselves that we're going to score every play. Top two, not two with Devontae. Are you pretty pumped that he is now a part of that national conversation? Absolutely. I think it's really something that's been long overdue. If you really watch his tape and you study receiver technique,

the intricacies of the game and everything, that's something that he does at an elite level. No one on this planet can stay with him. I think I've said before his feet should be registered weapons just like some boxers mma people have their hands registered weapons you know what he does in the football field that's he is unbelievable that's why he's not too but he's in the home category of himself so interesting to me because i don't know much about davante i don't think i've been a fan obviously here and hearing his name in the conversation the best wide receiver in the NFL has been very cool

I think for a lot of Packers fans who've gotten a chance to watch this and obviously for Devontae but then they said before the game he went up to uh Jalen Ramsey and said hey let's give these people what they want or something like that like I love that is that what Devontae is like all the time is that the type? Is he a guy that will talk or chirp a little bit or is he just super competitive or whatever? I love that even more if that's the case. Yeah, I think that's

a really big part of who he is and really a lot of players on our team. You look at Aaron as well, super competitive. Devontae goes out there every single day and works his butt off. In practice, it could be routes on air, we're just getting warmed up. You know, he's going out there working as hard as he can

trying to be better, trying to improve his game because, you know, you only get so many limited opportunities to capitalize in the league and NFL, so he knows that. I think with his work ethic, he's really instilled that within our wide receiver as well,

of knowing that you have to go out there and be your best self every single day, put yourself to the metal limit so that you can go out there and give the fans what he wants. And he for sure has been doing that all year and saw that on Saturday as well. That's a fucking awesome quote. Hey, they want it. Why don't you just give it to them? Why don't you cover me? That is such a, you know what I mean?

You're not really taking a shot but you're definitely there's quite a joust happening right there ty what do you got alan i don't want to say you came out of nowhere because i've been watching you for years but at what point did things really click for you in the nfl when you knew like you you could be a guy and uh how often did you wish that you would have went to iowa instead of iowa state great question that's a good follow-up um never um i didn't know when you guys had me in the queue waiting to get on the show you guys um have my graphic right next to the uh hawkeye helmet that you have there on your desk so i didn't know nice um trying to take some jabs there iowa state obviously they're doing a lot better this year and will continue to do so.

What's that, Cam? What the hell? He's going to get poached. He's going to get poached. Which kind of ties into the beginning part of the question. When I really knew that I could play in the NFL and be a great player was when Matt Campbell showed up at Iowa State. And he held me to these really high expectations and standards

that, for me, I couldn't see myself reaching those levels at that time because I didn't have anyone else to compare to, to reflect to. But once I got here to Green Bay, I had guys like Devontae, Aaron Rodgers, David Bocchiardi, Mercedes Lewis, just to kind of name a few guys, to hold themselves at a high standard every single day. It was easy to attach myself to them and follow their lead and role. So it was only, you know, it's been in the works for a long time.

I've always believed in myself. I've always had the utmost confidence. But just having guys to validate that, to push me, and to hold me to a high standard has been in the works for a couple years now. Had to feel pretty good the day that it all kind of worked for you in Green Bay and say, man, thank God the Jaguars cut me. Now, granted, there's no state tax and it's warm down there and obviously Urban's going to and all that stuff,

but it has to feel pretty good to be a part of the offense and the team that you're a part of up there in Lambeau. This weekend you're playing in the most iconic stadium at home against Tom Brady and you're going to be most iconic stadium at home against Tom Brady, and you're going to be a massive part of the offense. It has to be pretty fucking cool. Now, let's talk about something a little bit more serious here. You do a juice review. Is that right? I saw a couple. I believe it's on TikTok. I do not do the TikTok, but if something makes its way from TikTok into my Twitter timeline, I know that, okay, it is being talked about.

If it's hopped out of that platform into another platform and then into my timeline, I know it's doing well. I believe you are a very accomplished juice reviewer at this point. Congrats on that. How did we fall into this past time? So it kind of all started when I went through my injury. You know, I went through surgery. I was on IR.

So my schedule was a lot more wide open. I had a lot more free time. And, you know, one thing with the Green Bay Packers, I think they do an outstanding job with the food and nutrition that they bring for us and provide for us at the stadium. And they put out a juice every single day. So I've been drinking those juices all year. This is when they kind of have some fun with it.

Started, you know, making some stories, giving my opinion on the juices and everything. And then recently just kind of got put on the TikTok gang and started putting my videos on there. And just kind of been running with it since. Okay. Do the people that make the juices know that you're judging it? And have you ever said, this juice stinks? Yes. Yes, I have.

There's been a few juices with cayenne in it. And that's like my little favorite. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's just not for me. Too hot, too spicy. But I appreciate all those juices. You know, my guy, Big Smooth, what's up with smoothies every single day?

I got my smoothie right here. So he what's up with smoothies and juices. And Adam does a great job of just top to bottom, juices, food, nutrition, all that. Yeah, except for the bullshit cayenne pepper ones he puts out there. Save those in the back, Smooth. What do you got, Connor?

Yeah, Lizard King, I see you got the Bucs jersey on. Are you a big basketball guy? And also, are you going to try and become a part owner similar to Aaron? Yeah, yeah, I got to represent Giannis and the Bucs here. I am a big basketball fan. Basketball is really my first love. One of my favorite coaches of all time was my high school basketball coach,

Brad Bjorken. So, yeah, I've always loved basketball, and I've always dreamed about playing in the NBA. Fortunately for me, I just ended up in the NFL. Hopefully once this COVID stuff gets out of the way, I'll be able to attend some games this year or hopefully in the near future to be out there. I just love sports.

I love competition. I think being on the court side of the basketball game, especially in the playoff atmosphere, it doesn't really get much better than that as a fan. Yeah. I've been there. It is wild. But you're a part of the show now too, whenever you're down there courtside. You know what I mean? A lot of eyes I've been there. It is wild. But you're a part of the show now, too,

whenever you're down there courtside. You know what I mean? A lot of eyes are on you there. No drinks can be spilled. You know what I mean? You're on TV. Can't get up to piss only at certain times because if not, you're blocking to something.

A lot of pressure down there courtside. I hope you perform well down there. You said your first love was basketball. Did you get any offers to play basketball did you were you were you pretty good yeah I was decent um I couldn't really shoot very well um when I was younger my my jumpers improved vastly um especially since I'm sitting in green bay we got we have a hoop in our team room actually so oh on our team so we shoot all the time but um in high school,

you know, I was just really just, I like to call myself a more athletic Russell Westbrook. I couldn't really shoot, but I was just running up and down

the floor just dunking it. Yeah, I think I had like 46 dunks my junior year. Where are you from originally? Des Moines, Iowa.

I went to Urbandale High School. So you're just running around Iowa dunking on all the little white kids all through high school? All throughout the Midwest, yes, Iowa. I went to Urbandale High School. So you're just running around Iowa dunking on all the little white kids all through high school? All throughout the Midwest, yes, sir. Probably dunked on this guy.

There's a lot of Hawkeye fans I dunked on. I love that. You play video games? Honestly, this is probably the first year I've stopped playing video games. Scoring touchdowns, divisional round. Hey! That's funny how that works. Yeah. Yeah, I'm trying to figure out this whole life thing, becoming an adult and everything. So I've sat down the Xbox controller for now.

My friends are really pissed. I'm really big into FIFA and Call of Duty. Those have been my main two games. But as soon as the season's over, I'm taking that controller up and I'm about to lock myself in our room for probably 48 hours straight. Hey, well, good luck in there, Lizard King. Good luck this weekend, pal. We're all incredibly happy and proud to watch you play, dude.

Undrafted guy making big-time plays. It's awesome. Thanks for your time today. Yeah, thanks for having me. Appreciate that. Hey, that catch was a hell of a catch too, by the way. It wasn't just like it was handed to you.

I mean, normally, Aaron will just drop it right into your hands for you, but you had to make a hell of a play at probably 20 miles an hour.

That's a big-time play. Yeah, yeah. About the time I kind of paid the dude back to him. Oh, because of the...

Just amazing passes every time. You know, one time I had to go make a play, and I did. That's very nice of you to do that for him, isn't it? Yeah, he's a great guy. It feels like your team really likes each other.

You talked about the hoop in the team room. Is it a very chill atmosphere over there? It feels like if you watch you guys, not just now, obviously, you're in the Final Four, so there's a lot of good things to talk about now whenever you're in the Champions. But for the last, I mean, maybe even the entire season, it felt like you guys were a very tight group. Why is that, you think?

I really just think it's the people inside the entire organization, top to bottom. You know, I think Coach LaFleur and the staff that he's brought in there as well. I mean, we're really close with our coaches. You know, I think the communication level, the relationship level that we have, and just the type of conversations that we have in our locker room with our coaches,

with our teammates, and just really everyone inside the whole organization brings us really closer, and we're able to obviously share this unique bond and this journey together. We've just really been piggybacking off the great year that we've been having. Man, that's awesome. Enjoy the hell out of it. I don't think that happens all the time. Could you tell us what scary ninja means? Scary ninja? I can't.

Come on! You almost had it. Because I know you're going to ask the guy tomorrow about it. Yeah, he wouldn't tell us, so I try to ask everybody else. Yeah, don't try to get me in trouble. Look, I'm just finally having success. And now you're trying to put me in the dog pile. That is not.

That is not. I would have blamed it on somebody else. I would have said I was talking to somebody. I already dropped that one pass, man. I already have it. You're going to be on my ass all week. Come on. Hey, big game this weekend.

Good luck, man. Ladies and gentlemen, Alan Lazard. Thank you. Let's go, let's go. Hey, picking up that FIFA controller day this season over. 48 hours. I like what he's doing over there. Put the game down. Dalt. What's that, dude?

What do you mean, dude? Diggs is still, by the way, Diggs is proud of the fact that he has been entrenched in battle with the Jujubees since last week's situation with Jerry Dullek breaking news digs has because at the end of that video where we said you know it is being reported that juju

wants to leave for a bigger market or whatever at the end of that video i asked like do steelers fans want juju to still be there and digs cuts a promo against younger steelers fans and in that promo he he by the way i was taking shrapnel because of his promo, I think, at one point. And also because Bleach Report, what they were saying to me. So I was taking the shrapnel, even though I just did my due diligence, as did Diggs. But Diggs took a personal shot at the Juju Bees, the actual fan base of Juju.

And Diggs, you've been entrenched in battle with them literally for days now at this point. So when Lazard says, I want to focus on football, I put the games down. For you, that was just like, here's a clip. I'm going to do this on Twitter when I'm back into the beehive, pal. Is that right? It's just the easiest group. At this point, it's really

fun. It's because they're just an easy group to rile up and then they send their shots at you, but not really land ever. Oh! Shots fired! Drunk bees. They're not landing. That's interesting.

Big Ben wants them back. Big Ben said, yeah, I'll come back. Juju does too. Buzz them all right back into the... Big Benedict. Whoa. Dude, that's your quarterback. It's unbelievable.

Don't do that. What did Ben Roethlisberger do to you? That guy gave up everything he loved to be better at football. You know I don't say anything bad about Ben. You just did. He's called a big Benedict. Boy, switch sides. Big shout out to Alan Lazard, by the way.

I'm happy he doesn't know who the Lizard King was, by the way. Yeah, thank God. Just keep it going, man. Good nickname. He was a cool dude. Oh, yeah. Very cool. Very cool guy.

Think he's good at FIFA? Everybody loves FIFA that loves video games. Why is it? Why is it? Good game? Easy game? If you're really good at it, it's real fun. Yeah. But if you suck at it, it's not fun. Are you really good or really terrible? I love that game. I'm a big defense guy. Oh, so you're

good at the game. I parked the bus. Well, that's like Ocho, right? Ocho says he'll beat everybody. I've seen him lose like five times. Okay. How many games has he played? Probably ten. We need the denominator. We need to talk about denominators. We need a denominator.

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This man has broken news so he could leave our show. The news that he broke after leaving our show, much bigger than the news that he broke after leaving our show much bigger than the news that he chose to leave our show and break that news was just small itty bitty not really news that he broke but ladies and gentlemen this man breaks all the news that you need to know and some that you don't really care for ladies and gentlemen from nfo network ian what's going on, Rapshi? How are you? What's happening?

Hey, just hanging. Just hanging. Got championship weekend coming up. You people at the NFL got to be pumped. All the big names are in there. You got the olds in the NFC taking on the youngs in the AFC. Here we go, Rapoport. Big weekend.

I mean, it's probably about as good as I possibly could have. Oh. Let me check this out. Can you hear me? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I thought it was broken. Screw that good as I possibly could have. Oh. Let me turn this down. Can you hear me? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I thought it was broken. Screw that up. You got me now?

Yeah. There you go. It's probably as good as we possibly could have imagined as far as just the quarterback position and the big-time matchups. I mean, Tom Brady in the NFC title game, which is weird, against Rodgers. And Brady, who did not want to play in the cold now has to go to the cold to play to get to the super bowl forgot about that's like the 65th best storyline there but also interesting is he going to be breaking out his scuba suit i also have questions

about that um plus you got is the patrick mahomes going to play hopefully josh allen coming out party we got i mean it's going to be awesome. I have a question for you. We just got some news from Carrington Harrison, who is on Twitter. And we did say we don't know who Carrington Harrison is either. It seems like you do not. No, I know who that is. He's a radio something. He's a radio producer in Kansas City, right?

Here we go. Carrington Harrison. A source has told him Patrick passed all of his tests last night. He didn't actually hit his head. There was a nerve in his neck that got tweaked that made him out of it. He's getting testing done on his neck nerve today, but did clear all tests last night. That was a scary situation.

Leg gave out. You saw him a little bit dazed, it looked like. There's your superstar. The Browns about to go take on the Bills. Holy hell, that was a big moment. Now they're saying it was a concussion. What do you know about this, Ian? Well, Andy Reid said after the game he passed all of his tests,

which I was like, okay, but I don't know what that means because it's not like he cleared the concussion protocol unless they do end up deciding that he was not actually in the concussion protocol, in which case Carrington Harrison would be on the money, and I will be happily retweeting his solid scoop right there, which I will be checking as soon as I get off the phone with you. Oh, did we just... We just broke news to you. Hey, you can't win them all, right?

You've got to be a competitor, but you can't win them all. You've got to be honest with yourself. But that would be, I mean, look, you've got to be. Who did you steal that from? No, Ernest. Ernest. Aaron Rodgers, dude. Me and Aaron won a golf tournament against the NBA. Undefeated in that thing.

That's right. And also news-breaking today to the newsbreakers. How do you say that? Yeah, broke news to the newsbreakers. That's how it is. But so he should be no problem then. Then we have Patrick Mahomes, Josh Allen, the future big-time AFC rivalry, hopefully. That game's going to be electric, Ian.

I mean, it is going to be electric. I like Josh Allen, and I like what the Bills are building. And to see what happened to them last year, which is basically the moment was kind of like too big for them, was honestly frustrating because I thought Josh Allen was going in the right direction. And last year, you know, kind of freaked out in the playoffs, and you're like, what's going to be the response, right? And all we've seen is him play great. And the Bills, I mean, this time it was defensively,

but really in all areas they played really, really well. I think he deserves his national coming out party and i don't know if it's going to come against my homes but like it's amazing how many people media people fans just like bills mafia i mean think about what the bills did yesterday lamar jackson goes out with a concussion their fans donate more than 150 000 to lamar jack Jackson's charity just because. That's amazing. How could you not like the Bills Mafia?

And if they get to the Super Bowl, I mean, that would be a lot of fun. It really would be a lot of fun. We all agree there. We are also the big proponents of Bills Mafia. Love everything about them. When it comes to the Chiefs, everybody's talking, you know, if you're in Cleveland, about getting screwed, you know what I mean, with the touchdown into a touchback. I assume that this conversation

has happened in league circles, whether it's the rules committee or anything like that. Has there ever been a time where they almost changed that rule? Do you think that'll ever happen, or do you think that's just the way it is? Don't reach out to football when you're that close if you don't want this to happen. I think it's the way it is don't reach out the football when you're that close if you don't want this to happen i think it's the way it is it has been discussed at length rich eyes and my esteemed colleague hates this rule um maybe more than he hates anything else um well he hates ohio state a lot too but he definitely hates this rule and uh it has been discussed i don't believe the league has a better answer. Maybe it'll be discussed again and I'm going to be asking, but I think their main point is what's the alternative,

right? I mean, to me, it seems just personally, opinion-wise, it seems way too punitive. You fumble on the, you know, going into the end zone, the other team gets it just without recovering. It seems wild to me. On the the other hand don't fumble would be the response to that um i i don't know i personally don't get it and i hope they do take a look at it but you got to know the rules and you got to know that you cannot be reaching out for the goal line i mean every person who's been schooled by bill belichick knows that i covered them for three years i know that very well you just can't do it yeah i saw a couple of those tweets last night from players that played within the patriots organization it's interesting because they

tell you to strain for every yard but whenever the yard is the most important don't strain put that sum of bitch right back inside and just let's live to see another day here uh last night obviously buck saints i mean everybody enjoyed watching two greats kind of go at it drew breeze obviously uh did not have his best game. Moments before that game on the Fox NFL kickoff show, Jay Glazer said, amongst other things, he said that Drew Brees is going to retire. It was kind of in like a, I don't want to say a throwaway comment,

but it was kind of like just in this series of events, things that he said. And maybe they were cutting short on time or whatever. But as soon as I heard it, I was like, holy shit, that's the first time I've heard anybody confirm it. series of events uh things that he said and maybe they were cutting short on time or whatever but as soon as i heard i was like holy shit that's the first time i've heard anybody confirm it i think everybody kind of thought it was is that been confirmed has everybody kind of knew this was potentially going to happen or how did the whole dream breeze retiring story think you come i mean to me like you know this is i think most people sort of have just kind of known i mean he's never

acknowledged it but no one has denied it either. I think it's something that's been talked about for the last couple weeks. And I have not heard one person tell me he's going to be back. I believe the Saints are planning for him to be gone. I don't mean that in a bad way. I'm just saying they're planning for whoever's going to be next. When I was told they want to bring back Jameis Winston, part of that was like they're going to need someone to replace Drew Brees so I think everyone knows he's gone I mean yeah

you know I heard the comments too but it was sort of like he's going to be playing his last game and I'm like well yeah that makes sense because if they win they're going to be in Lambeau so I thought he actually presented it in the right way because I think it's someone most people something most people know. I would also say that it sucks for Breeze that he goes out this way, but it's impossible to get the fairytale ending. I mean, there's been so few of them. You know, you had a fairytale ending, but most people don't get that. I mean, your career ended with a tweet from me.

Hard to imagine a better way to go out. Most people aren't that lucky. Actually, I was thinking about that with Drew Brees last night. My last punt got blocked. Just shoved it right down my face. It was like with a couple minutes left. Who got it? I don't remember.

It was from the left side. That's all I remember. And it was, by the way, I'm jogging on the field knowing this is my last punt. So I'm going out there trying to fucking absolutely slam. That ball was slaughtered. That thing was still going. And instead, when Ray Endo guys – he was so close. Like, he went scot-free.

And as I came to the sideline, Vinatieri – I think Vinatieri was like, that's how you're going to go out? And I was like, yeah. I ain't going back out for another one. Let's talk about some coaching hires here. Let's talk about some coaching hires here. Let's talk about some coaching hires in this whole world. Dan Campbell, Motor City Dan Campbell is now the guy up in Detroit. He's not an offense coordinator.

He's not a defense coordinator. He's just a culture standard setter. Is that what he is? He's coming in there, big-ass neck. He's not scared of nothing. He's going to be tough. He's going to be tough. He's going to have one of the largest chaws in whenever he's talking, and he's going to change the entire culture in there.

Is that the thought with Chris Spielman hiring Campbell to come out to Detroit? Yeah, I mean, he's got a really big chin, a really substantial chin. Yeah, he'll eat some, too. Right, I mean, he can take a punch, can deliver a punch, has been there as a player. I saw a clip of him wearing a black jersey, which I don't even remember the Lions wore black jerseys. I mean, it seems weird to me, but whatever. It is an interesting hire.

So what I have thought throughout this whole process is the Lions three years ago, it's like ancient history but they interviewed mike vrabel and then hired matt patricia and i think they wish that they had hired mike vrabel obviously vrabel would have been a good hire right patricia worked out like he did so maybe this is what they think there's their new mike vrabel just kind of a a guy to stand up in the middle of the room and you know front of the room and get everyone's attention and set the tone. And he gave a speech. I mean, the Saints obviously lost, but he gave a speech to the Saints this past week

that I heard was outstanding as far as just like inspirational and motivational about what the playoffs mean. You know, that's who they wanted to hire as their head coach. Ian, we have a Lions fan kind of in the room, all right? And as you were talking there, he was literally sitting there just bobbing his head like, yeah, can't wait for this guy. I imagine the press conference is going to be awesome. Yeah, I hope so.

He also said he didn't want to announce the hiring because he wanted to finish it out with his guys over there in New Orleans. I respect that. That never happens anymore. Motor City Dan is coming in there to change some shit around in Detroit. Let's get to big stories behind the scenes here. Obviously, Deshaun Watson was at a 2. Now he's at a 10. He wants out of there.

Everybody's reporting that we might have seen his last days as the as a member of the Texans then there was ideas tossed around uh that the New York Jets have not only the ability to potentially make a trade with the vast amount of number one overall picks they have they have the number two this year then next year they have two number ones and then I think another two number ones the next year uh first of all do you think deshaun watson's going to be moved out of houston how does that happen from a financial standpoint or like an organizational standpoint and where does he go do you do is this is this a real thing because if you think about all you're trying to do in the nfl is find a franchise quarterback and rex ryan said this uh this morning he said this

this franchise all you're trying to do is find a franchise quarterback and they have to move on from them that is that how it is right now are they talking like this team is just going to have to part ways with Deshaun they don't have to um they don't have to they could fix it and you know we've seen a couple of these in the past where players frustrated player wants out and everyone kind of knows it, and we all talk about it, and then sometimes they get traded, sometimes they don't. We've done this with Odell, where we all thought he was going to get traded. He didn't. Signed an extension with the Giants and then got traded.

Same thing with Stephon Diggs in Minnesota. There was at least two other dust-ups, sort of media things in Minnesota about Stefan Diggs. Didn't get traded, and then he did get traded. So I don't know if it's a thing. No one in Houston has told me. No reputable Texan source has told me we are open to trading Deshaun Watson. Deshaun Watson has not asked for a trade. However, what happens, as you would imagine, is teams can read. So they see

on the internet when I, you know, let's say I tweet like I did a couple weeks ago, Deshaun Watson is very angry with the organization. They go, oh wow, I could get Deshaun Watson and they start calling. Did you use any emojis? Did you use any emojis with that one, like the steam head? No, I didn't.

I thought about the devil one, like the angry kind of devil ear. But then I didn't know if people would think I would mean the Texans or Deshaun. So I'm a big emoji guy. Like when I break a big contract, I like to do the money bags emoji. That's fun. That's a good emoji. I didn't do any emojis here because I don't want people to take my emojis out of context.

Smart. Hey, because emojis can get taken out of context. So what you're saying is nobody knows what the hell is going to happen. Who would be a reputable source within an organization that would talk to you? Just be somebody that has to know what's going on? And how do you deem whether or not that person knows what the hell is going on? To me, like, okay, let's say the Texans, right? So the people who decide that the Texans are trading Deshaun Watson are

Cal McNair, the owner, Nick Casario, the GM, the head coach who we don't know yet. So that's really it. I mean, as far as reputable sources who would tell me we are open to this, that is it. Because when you talk about something this high level in an organization, the circle closes. Right?

So, like, let's say the Texans had a coach and they had an offensive coordinator and I was really close with them. Even that would not be a reputable source. Because when you're talking something that's so high stakes, the OC wouldn't know if Deshaun's getting traded. These are things handled at the ownership level and the head coach and GM level. Now, I will say this. Teams that have started calling, there's not that many teams that could do it because they'd have to have a draft pick

high enough where the Texans would want it. Miami and the Jets. Be the Dolphins, the Jets, the Panthers. It's not a lot of teams. The Panthers? Are the Panthers only in there because of the pick selection

or because there's actual interest, you think? Oh, you're breaking news. Who is it? Who is it? Is somebody trading for Deshaun? Who was it? Not right now. Not right now.

Oh, hey, hey, hey. Breaking news. Actually, somebody texted me that my friend James Palmer, he posted a video of Brady and Breeze, and it's got 10 million views, which is more than anything I've ever tweeted, so I'm really jealous of that. Yeah, but you're not a views getter.

You're a newsbreaker. I would assume you have as much impressions, if not more, than James Palmer, but that video was awesome. I mean, that thing was absolutely awesome. The only thing I'm worried about is, I mean, they were do-si-do and there were no masks. Oh, man.

Hey, I was thinking about that. I hate to say it, but I was really, I was like, alright, Breeze, like, I hope you don't get COVID, but you're not playing next week. Like, everyone stay away from Tom Brady. You know, please. Wow, that's going to be impossible, but that was a really wholesome moment. It's like, okay, these two aliens aren't actual aliens. You know what please. Wow, that's going to be impossible. But that was a really wholesome moment. It's like, okay, these two aliens aren't actual aliens.

You know what I mean? There's a whole situation popping off. That was really cool in my eyes. You guys got anything? Yeah. Yeah, go ahead, Connor. Ravshi, because of the drama between Michael Thomas and the Saints this year and because of their cab number, do you see him getting traded

or is he going to be on the Saints next year? I would not rule anything out. I don't think anything is imminent or anything. He goes! I'm thinking about it right now. He goes! Look, it's not. It was a tough year, I think, for all parties.

Now, they came to a point where they were fine by the end. And, I mean, he is an awesome player, but he is intense. I mean, he is a different dude. He is intense. He is competitive. He is a perfectionist. He is. W player, but he is intense. I mean, he is a different dude. He is intense. He is competitive. He is a perfectionist. He is, like most freakazoid amazing athletes, he is a different dude. So I don't know.

I would say they probably will not trade him. But, again, similar to Deshaun, I would imagine teams will go, okay, maybe they weren't that happy. Let me call and see what's going on. That's what happens a lot. Ty. Ian, what's the deal with Eric Biennemi? Is he a bad interview?

Does he really not do that much in Kansas City? Because it was like a foregone conclusion that he's going to get a job, and now he's going to get passed over again. What's going on there? First of all, I'm not sure he's going to get a job and now he's going to get passed over again like what's what's going on there uh first of all i'm not sure he's going to get passed over he's interviewing with the texans today and you know like he might not get it but it's a legit interview and there's legit interest so i'm not going to declare this dead until it's actually dead you know as far as his interviews i've heard a lot of different things some people thought it was great you know he's interviewed with a lot of teams. Some people thought

he was great. Some people were not as impressed, just like all candidates. I know he's gotten a lot of media attention, as he should. He does do a lot in Kansas City. He is intricately involved in the play calling, in the game planning, in everything. Not that I care if someone's a

play caller or not. It doesn't matter. But, I mean, Joe Judge didn't call plays. That's probably going to work out pretty well for the Giants. John Harbaugh didn't call plays. He's doing alright for the Ravens. I don't care about that. They did call plays for special teams, though. Yes, but that special teams

don't really. What we're saying is if you're hiring an offensive guru and they don't call plays, I think that is interesting. It's like Joe Judge gets a job. You know what, Joe Judge? We think you're an offensive guru because of your work you've done in special teams. What do you mean? What are you talking about?

No, no. I see what you're saying. But they would not be hiring him as an offensive guru. They'd be hiring him as a leader. Got it. And I think there's more of that this year than I can ever remember. Like Dan Campbell is a great example. Teams want to find leaders, not like, who's the next Adam Gase,

who's the best play caller slash offensive line I can get. Urban Meyer also, that's very valid. You're right, there's a lot of people that are potentially, because they want to run. Urban Meyer's not calling plays. That was very interesting to me. Yeah, but the thought of, there was that run there where we have to get the offensive guru where we have to get the offensive

guru we have to get the offensive wizard have you ever sat down and watched film alongside sean mcveigh yep fucking sign them up like that happened very quickly there was a couple successes not not everybody was now organizations are kind of you're seeing the reaction to that where it's like okay we don't give a damn if they know anything let's get somebody that knows how to build a team that's good for football by the way i think the culture team building people a lot more so than anything else that kind of gets forgotten about whenever you start judging teams because it's not a madden rating it's something very different well i was going to say like you probably i don't know how many special teams coaches you've had but like

how many have you do you have did you have a bunch when you were? Three, I think four, three, three, I think. One of my main hills to die on is the same as Bill Belichick. So in a way we're very similar is I don't understand why more people don't interview special teams coaches just because of the leadership ability to connect on all levels. Like I don't get it. And maybe teams are figuring that out. I don't know. It's I just think you have to be able to build the team, the camaraderie of the team.

Like, there's been some teams I've been on that have been very good that if you were to put them on paper and write down everybody's Madden rating against everybody else, not so much. But whenever you have, like, a we must do this type of thing, it's just a very different world. What do you got there? Ian, speaking with the leadership,

is that why the Chargers go with Brandon Staley of the Rams rams versus like dayball the bills who orlovsky said would come in with a young quarterback and do the same thing josh allen orlovsky said that he was hired by the way dayball was through the chargers dan orlovsky said that see i i had never heard that he was that dayball was going to the charge but to me all their focus was on staley like the whole time they just i think they just knew that they needed to keep it quiet because other teams were interested like that was their deal was to get him in a second time and make sure he didn't he didn't fly to florida to go interview with the eagles so that's why there was like all this secrecy because they're like you know if you let you let a guy go, he might not come back.

Right. I think for them, he's a great defensive coordinator, but they like how he relates to players more than anything. Synthesize information relates to players like you get guys like Jalen Ramsey being like, this guy is a genius. I swear by him. That is meaningful. And then offensively, like, you know, they were good on offense last year. Like, they honestly could keep the same offensive staff and be fine. And I think that's one option. All right. Ian, we appreciate you, man.

Do the Eagles do their interviews in Florida? They do. Yeah, obviously. Yeah, you kind of slipped that one in there. All right. He's going up there. I can't thank you enough for joining us, Ian. You're the best, pal. All right. Always a going up there. I can't thank you enough for joining us, Ian. You're the best, pal.

All right. Always a, I guess a pleasure. Always a pleasure. It isn't always for us. I mean, I mean, it's not either for me either.

Yeah. This was all right. Yeah. Like sometimes it's okay. Sometimes not so much. Today was a good day. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Today was a good one. I give it. All right. Bye guys. All right. See you. Hour one. We have, bye, guys. All right, see you. Hour one, we had Rapaphor on.

No breaking news for him. No. Great conversation, though. Talked about how he doesn't believe the enemy is going to get passed by in this particular round of coaching hires, because he hasn't been hired in the first couple jobs that have been opened. Obviously, you've got Bob Salah going to the New York Jets. You've got Urban Meyer going

to Jacksonville. You've got Motor City Dan Campbell going up to the Detroit Lions. You also have Philadelphia Eagles with an opening. Houston Texans with an opening. You also have the Chargers who have just hired Brandon Staley, former defensive coordinator

for the Los Angeles Rams. And the Falcons got Artie Smith. Offense coordinator of Tennessee Titans. I guess his now, it was on Fox. I think it was Michael Strahan said it. Look into Arthur Smith's family. I think his dad might have founded FedEx. He's the CEO of FedEx.

And then something else. His family is uber successful. Michael Strahan basically gave an entire promo about how... I forget if it was Strahan. He said, this guy... I forget how he said it, but basically he said, this guy could have opted not to work for... He has earned his way through this entire...

Comes from money, not motivated by it, is what I heard. Yeah, yeah. So that's the entire thing. So Artie Smith, yeah, it was a good, straight in, laid it out very well. And I did not know that because I'll tell you what, if my dad founded FedEx, I don't think I'd be a fucking football coach. I don't think I would.

So shout out to, hey, Atlanta, you got a good one. You got a guy who loves football. Give some of that money to Matt Ryan. Well, yeah, they better ask FedEx for a bigger sponsorship because they are going to have to fund a salary cap that is going to Matt Ryan. Well, yeah, they better ask FedEx for a bigger sponsorship because they are going to have to fund a salary cap that is going to be problematic. In the first hour, we also talked about

some other breaking news and potential breaking news and our guy Carrington Harrison, who we did not know who it was whenever we read his tweet stating that Patrick Mahomes did not have a concussion. There was no hit to his head.

It was actually a nerve in his neck, and he passed all tests, and he should be fine or something like that. Carrington Harrison's inside sources have told him that. Carrington Harrison then immediately following that, shout out to Carrington Harrison, by the way. Thank you, Carrington. We do not know who Carrington Harrison is, but we have met him kind of through this process.

I think there's a chance we will get to know i followed carrington harrison okay i want to learn more about carrington here we go okay but whenever he broke that news and we still don't really know so if we are wrong do not toss us back into the juju beast we are reporting what other people are saying this is a part of our duty to do our research so we know all the buzz that is potentially happening around the hive. We need to know the sizzle around the steak. That's why you follow a lot of local people and get what the rumors are inside. We did that last year with Jerry fucking Dulac, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, and we ended up in a goddamn war because Bleacher Report basically grabbed a goddamn microphone and said,

Hey, Pat McAfee reported this. So, no, no, we just tried to do our research here, whatever, by saying. Since then, by the way, Bleacher Reporter and I, we have shaken hands and moved past it. Oh, okay, nice. Bleacher Reporter said they apologized for what had happened, was, you see. They fixed their post? A little late. They did. Oh, really? Let's go. Yeah, because I sent a follow-up.

I said, well, thanks for the apology. I appreciate that. I appreciate what you guys do. This is good, whatever, you know, because I do follow them. They do get a lot of news but they hadn't deleted the post whenever they sent me that thing so then I had to send a follow up like hey I appreciate what you guys are doing but are we gonna maybe change here because

social media you can edit on this particular platform and they did by the way follow up so shout out to BR Gridiron I appreciate you but anyways you put us in the middle of a goddamn war couldn't have Carrington Harrison do the same thing to us. But Carrington Harrison, I believe he's in Kansas City. I do believe.

So, hey, he might have some real inside scoop there. But then Lindsey Jones is reporting Andy Reid confirms that Patrick Mahomes is in the protocol. Says he otherwise doesn't have injury updates. So, if he's in the protocol, is that the concussion protocol? Which protocol are we talking about? Is Patrick Mahomes playing this weekend? Is it a concussion? Because a concussion protocol, right? Sometimes that takes some people some things.

He was woobly. He was a bit woobly. Couldn't even get back to his corner there. Very scary sight. Okay, we're happy to hear he's okay. But if it's a neck nerve thing, or if it's a concussion thing, I think those are two different estimates on whether or not he's going concussion thing i think those are two different uh estimate estimates on whether or not he's going to be playing in orchard park this weekend against

josh allen andy reed confirms that patrick mahomes is in the protocol says he otherwise doesn't have injury updates tweets at by lindsey h jones lindsey jones uh senior writer for the athletic andy reed with a mike tomlin ask filibuster to start his Monday media session. Impressive, really. Andy Reid is asked by Adam Tyker, when did fourth and one become a throwing down? Reid, I want to BYU every down as a throwing down. Hell yeah. A lot of Hail

Marys over there, they said. What's their funny dicks? I didn't know if that's how it worked. Yeah. You're talking about. Anyways, awesome by him. Who knows what's going to happen with Patrick Mahomes. Patrick Mahomes, Josh Allen, Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady.

Let's have a weekend. There was a lot of things to overreact to in the divisional round, and the country did on Twitter this morning. Hashtag Pat, I don't want to overreact, but was trending in the United States. We appreciate you. Let's get to our favorite segment every single monday i don't want to overreact but by the way you should have seen the project manager put that one together you know what i mean it was aressive. I can't believe it got done. That's what I'm saying.

Let's get some overreactions. This is from... How is Zito's Paul doing? Do you want to go back to it? How is Zito's... Hey, Packers are still in the lead. Hey, there we go. Let's get some overreaction. This is from RaRa underscore GoHawks.

Is Aaron Donner really a human? He got emotional. Hashtag Pat, I don't overreaction. This is from Rara underscore Go Hawks. Is Aaron Donald really a human? He got emotional. Hashtag Pat, I don't overreact. But that was awesome to see. Yeah. That was very awesome to see. I mean, he almost got a fight there early. Grabbed the face mask, said, hey, listen, it's going to be a long day for you.

And the guy said, no, it's going to be a long day for you, actually. The three interior linemen for the Green Bay Packers, the strength of their offensive line, they held Aaron Donald in check. It felt like Aaron Rodgers had all the time in the world that he wanted. Aaron Donald is an absolute specimen of a football player. By a lot of people's accounts, I have not watched enough film or give out this award. Best football player on the field whenever he plays football. Going to be a Hall of Famer.

Legendary guy. Probably top one D lineman in the conversation whenever he's all said and done. He's unbelievable. The fucking Packers, because of the cartilage, I'd assume that that held him back a good bit. And Jay Glazer laid out a shoulder pad he was wearing to protect it a little bit. I would assume that does affect the explosivity, though, with a rib problem. But watching him get emotional at the end,

like that's the type of dude you want on your team, right? You want somebody that cares. Jarvis Landry last week was like, I want to practice. That's what I want to do here. And somebody that gets emotional whenever it's a professional sport, what an absolute legendary of a career thus far. And what a human, dude. He's been just eating weights in his basement in Penn Hills,

which is the east hills of Pittsburgh, since he's probably 40 years old. Give me that. Give me that. He crushes people. And then now, by the way, the Rams offseason. Hell of a season, by the way. Rams, another one. Now it's Instagram Aaron Donald time.

Oh, here we go. Break out the knots. Get ready. One of the greatest humans ever created athletically is now going to put on a show on Instagram. Get a chance for that. I did appreciate that he pulled that dude's face mask as close as he possibly could to him to make sure he heard him, what he was going to try to say. Let me fucking talk to you.

I want to give you COVID if I got it. That's how fucking close I want to get to you right now. He did not let it go, by the way. Oh, no. Knew there was going to be a penalty, and it was just like, I do not care at this particular time. Let's get to the next one.

This is from Rick Without The. No, Rick Without The E. So Rice. one uh this is from uh rick without the no rick without the e so rice oh is this guy rice i think so at ric without the e so this is rice rice this guy's name's rice what up rice hashtag pat i don't want to overreact but alan versus my homes is going to be a matchup we look forward to every single year the afc you know back in the day when Peyton and Tom I remember beginning of my career I got on the tail end of the winningest decade in NFL history with the Indianapolis Colts which was Peyton Manning and the boys we went up to New England or New England came to us every single year the NFL was like here we go this game's gonna happen this game's gonna happen I can't wait to see these guys go after it I mean two very talented young guys that look like their peak is nowhere near.

Do you think, I mean, with what we saw from Lamar and Baker, is there really any other teams that can push this? Like, it really does feel like these guys are going to go to the AFC championship for the next, like, 10, 15 years. You need to watch your mouth. What do you mean? You need to watch your mouth. What you just said about the Pittsburgh Steelers right there.

What you just said about the New York Jets with Deshaun Watson. Uh-oh. I think the first shot was at Lamar and Baker for what we saw this weekend. Yeah, you did kind of say there's no chance they're going to win one. There's a lot of people tweeting that type of stuff. Kind of. I mean. But what if they do?

Then you don't know. Yeah, but what if the Colts get Stafford? Then look out. Then hold the phone. Hold the phone. What if Stafford... This is what the AFC will have. Stafford, Deshaun Watson, Patrick Mahomes, Josh Allen,

Lamar Jackson, Baker Mayfield, Trevor Lawrence, Joey Burrow. Wentz in Pittsburgh. All right. I don't know what the fuck's going to happen with Carson Wentz. He's going somewhere. The NFC is going to have a lot of those, by the way. In the NFC, I don't know if the younger quarterbacks have hit as hard. In Miami, who knows who's going to be down in Miami.

I mean, the AFC is going to have a pretty stacked bunch of quarterbacks for a good bit here. But I do like Josh Allen and Patrick Mahomes getting after it. Let's get to the next one here. That's from digs a guy on the internet he's a cameraman it looks like hashtag fat i don't overreact but browns and ravens got zero percent chance of winning a super bowl if baker and lamar are their quarterbacks what were you just referring to there i believe that was the first shot that you took i mean i'm just using my eyes just what it looks like they were like oh well what's the stealer's chance with Big Ben? Yeah, we've always got one year left.

The Browns and Ravens are going to give these guys contracts for the next five years, so good luck with that. The interesting thing is Baker took that team to the playoffs for the first time in, what, 18 years, 19 years? Stefanski did good, yeah. A long time. Oh, you're saying Stefanski, but then Alex Van Pelt took the boys into Pittsburgh and got a win over the Pittsburgh Steelers

who at one point were undefeated in the playoffs. It's very interesting because Baker, at the beginning beginning of the year we said this is a proof of year for Baker Baker's gonna have to play very well or the new general manager Andrew Barry and the new coach are going to be forced to be like okay is this what we want to attach our buggy to here for the next time or do we want to move on at the beginning of the season was like oh probably move on but how the Browns have played here at the end, and now they get on a run. And they could have beat the Chiefs last night.

I mean, Chad, any fucking nightmare, whatever, you can start a football field. But, I mean, they're probably going to stick with Baker. You're probably 100% right. What will Baker become in this Stefanski offense? How will they continue to grow? Remember, they get OBJ back next year again. I mean, maybe he'll be a problem for you guys.

And with Lamar, it's just you're banking on the more balling out you know like and by the way lamar get hot i mean everybody's seen it and maybe he goes on an entire run through the super bowl but you need a guy that can sit back and have a if you're having a completely off day the offensive coordinator can drop some shit to make you be great. For instance, if Lamar is having an off day, it's not like old Roman over there can draw up a play that's like, okay, this is going to make Lamar be good. There's like screens and outs and throws and designs. That's why whenever you see Andy Reid with that offense,

guys are wide open in that offense, the way they draw things up. It's like there's a lot of things you need a guy, I think, that can be an assassin throwing the ball. Can Lamar Jackson make the jump that Josh Allen made throwing the ball from year after year over the last couple years in the pocket being a passer? I mean, that's still TBD.

If he can, and by the way, become that elite passer like he is, I think he's still a good passer, by the way, but become like an elite passer, that probably takes him to the next step. But everybody's assuming he won't be able to do that or won't do that. I wonder why everybody's assuming that. I just assume because they haven't seen it yet. But I do think Baker for sure has earned getting the fifth year picked up for the Browns.

What about Lamar? Well, they were talking about contract extension this weekend. I saw a report. Oh, so they're going big on Lamar? Seems like it. Okay. The word they used was, it was interesting, they used the words like this, fair for both sides. the fuck you know what this could be fair for both sides

not half by the way that's the team setting the standard yeah of like hey when you hear this number it's not going to be what everybody else is but we think it's fair yeah so can you report that does it have anything to do with greg roman too i mean like lamar is is better than colin kaepernick but like after three years you know like in his offense they just never adapted it was just the same thing and eventually defense has caught up to it I have no idea what's going to happen over there it's so interesting because I mean this morning Greeny said that the difference between Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen is Stephon Diggs so if So if you switch Hollywood Brown and Stephon Diggs on those teams,

which team probably wins there, you think? That would be the way you would question that whole thing. I still think Josh Allen has taken a step in the pass game that people should have to respect at this point. He can sling at it. So can Lamar, though. But I think if Lamar takes that jump where he becomes like an elite passer, then it's going to be a problem for everybody.

But will he? I don't know. I don't know what drills you do, by the way. I have no idea. Josh Allen got attached to what? A bunch of Houston Astros fucking sensor things. And then they timed him up like he was a golf club, and then he timed everything up.

He's gotten immensely better in that whole process. Everybody does, though, by the way. If they add, like, an Allen Robinson or a Chris Godwin, does that, like, I guess switch in Diggs and Brown. T.Y. Hilton's out there, too. There's going to be a lot of players that potentially make plays. I don't know where T.Y. is going to go. Hopefully he stays at the Colts because the Colts, I mean,

Pittman Jr., I guess, is here, and Jack Doyle. Oh, yeah. He's fucking going to do that. Paschal. But it is interesting. The wide receiver market's good this offseason. Quarterbacks are going to be on the move. Hey, maybe the offseason won't be too bad.

Feels like there's going to be a lot of drama. We're going to be able to cook up. Now we do know that he likes going to all that bullshit. Let's get to the next one, Foxy. This is from Nick Miraldo. A lot of folks complain about what's fair and what's deserved. I'll tell you what's not fair and what's not deserved. If the Bills and Bills Mafia finally make it back to the Super Bowl again

and Tom Brady's there waiting for them, the big bad wolf of Foxborough goes and meets them at his home now, Tampa Bay, that would be a damn shame. But I don't think Bills Mafia's worried about that. They're a team now that they weren't back then. Judging from the responses to that tweet, no, it sounds like they want another crack at Tom. Oh, really?

Oh, yeah. Shot at the champ. Oh, yeah? Is that what they're saying? And break the curse. Yeah. Is that what they're saying? I think so.

You think Tom Brady, after he played catch with Drew's kid and everything? Oh, best ball he's ever seen. Hey, by the way, good ball. Great ball. A lot of pressure on that ball. You know, because it's a small football So it's not as easy to throw Yeah

Obviously Tom Brady Though figured it out Naturally I mean he He dropped an Imagine that thing's A little bit of a Doc or kind of a mess

Might be his last year That's Tom Brady Hey I just No I'm not saying that Say it say it say it Hey I just retired your dad Go to You're welcome See you later nerd Dad's gonna be around A lot more You're welcome No, I'm not saying that. Say it, say it, say it. I just retired your dad. You're welcome.

See you later, nerd. Dad's going to be around a lot more. You're welcome. Uncle Tom. See you later. Was that dumb baby from Super Bowl that caught that ball? I would assume, yeah. The daughter seems to be the most athletic.

She was beating the shit out of somebody in that video. I remember the WWE. That was an awesome video. She was walking on her hands. That was absolutely awesome to see that. That was really, really cool to watch. I hope everybody didn't get COVID, though. True. Stay safe. What's the next one?

This is from Scotty Doesn't K. Scotty Sainville from the 514. What's the 514 area code? Anybody know it off the top of their head? Nope. Nope. Okay. Hashtag Pat, I don't overreact, but the Bucs linebacker squad are bringing back old-school linebackers. Big-ass fridges with hands.

Hashtag let's go. That Buccaneer linebacker squad last night was boom. Same with Leonard Fournette, by the way. I feel like that. Ronald Jones. I mean, I feel like that team is taking it up the next level. I talked about this, and somebody had mentioned it to me while we were back there, but I've always talked about my rookie year.

I played college at West Virginia. We were good. We were very good. We were a very fast team. We won a lot of games. And then you get to the NFL and it's preseason football. You're like, wow, seems like everybody's really fast here. Because you're taking like mostly the fastest guys from every team in college.

You're going in the NFL. And this is preseason. I was watching everybody. Then we got to a regular season and it was happening at such a pace where i was like holy shit people were flying around trying to kill each other like it was the speed level then the playoffs it got picked up then the super bowl got picked up even more because guys are playing as if like hey i got like two three months afterwards i'm probably going to be on a beach anyways if we lose i can go ahead and almost pop my hammy like ronald jones did as i while he was running out there guys just whenever they say you know do or die i'm not everybody obviously and we've seen guys maybe

not give max effort but a large majority of guys are turning it all in the speed that the bucks were playing at last night was awesome to watch i mean it was very cool. And that, what was he coming out of college? 260? Ran a 4.7? 4.6? What was he? Vontae? He was 260 pounds or something like that. Him and White together. 4.4 he ran.

He ran a 4.4, I think. I think he ran a 4.4 or something like that. They are flying down there. It was awesome to see, dude. And by the way, that was the story with the Bucs playing the Saints is Bucs turn the ball over. Go ahead and flip that thing completely. New Orleans turns the ball over. You lose the game.

It's easy as that. Tom Brady just put out a site video. Picked a 50-cent song that goes like, Feels like my flow's been hot for so long. People think I fell off. You're so wrong. Patiently waiting. Yeah, such a cryptic little savage line there.

Tom Brady picked it. Good for him. Going into Lambeau. Going to be cold. Get your long jaunts. Is there anything to combat that other than just experience? Like when they always talk about, well, Rodgers, the game's so slow for him now. Is that all it is?

It's just the more you've played, the slower things get. Yeah, you just kind of get used to everything, right? Like, for instance, in the Oculus Arena, I'm playing ping pong. Okay. And I've gotten to a score, I think, where I've potentially caught in the eye of the other people that are up in a high score thing. And I'll tell you what, the game has not slowed down for me but at some point hopefully the game will slow down up there first trip to the playoffs i think

it's going to take some years to get there because god damn it i've run into some buzz i have i and then by the way i'll play somebody because you can just you see you'll be in like a lobby almost you see somebody's name their score which isn't as easy to figure out where they're at, and then you can send them a challenge or whatever. You just send them a challenge, and then they okay it, then it connects it, and you're playing against each other. You have no idea what's on the other side of it. You have no fucking idea.

It's a cat head, all right? It's a paddle, and then it's an Oculus handle. That's all you see. And then you look to the left, there's the Alps there. It's very nice. Or you're in an arena where you're playing, depending upon who it is. And then all of a sudden, you have to the left, there's the Alps there. Okay, it's very nice. Or you're in an arena where you're playing, depending upon who it is. And then all of a sudden you have to judge off, like, the first serve,

what you're fucking in for. And every once in a while you have, like, the idiots. Okay, this is going to be a waste of time here. Even though you're trying to learn, I appreciate this, everything like that. And then every once in a while you'll get a goddamn guy that isn't talking much. He already has it set to ranked as soon as you get in there, which means we're playing for real. This isn't an unranked game. This is a real one.

And then the serve, he throws that thing up, and then you're just waiting for that thing to fall. You're like, what's coming? What's coming? And then all of a sudden, it's just whoo-hoo, and it's like, oh, fuck. He's already by me, you know? But I would assume as time goes on here,

those serves will start to slow down. I'll be sitting on those things. And whenever I see that score, I have to realize that, you know, when you watch the videos of the very high, high-end ping pong players, they're off the table. That's what I need to do whenever I see that. I need to get Val off the couch. I need to move the couch.

I need a bigger guardian area here. I'm playing against fucking Sunsea this weekend. S-U-N-S-Y-I. I'll tell you what, I should not have accepted that game. Good to know. I hit it and Sam, you know, sitting at the table or whatever and the amount of

ranked wins they had was like a thousand or like maybe thirteen hundred. Good God. Okay, so they've been around a long time. In the name and the proximity was low, so it meant they were somewhere. I was like, all right, here we go. We clicked in there. I go, I should not have accepted this game.

And as soon as the thing started, they gave a wave, and that serve came. I was just like, I got to remember not to fucking do this. Middle of the game, they're up 6-0. I'm like, Sam, this is not. And obviously, she starts talking shit to me now. Oh, jeez. Right? So this person not even talking.

And probably, I don't know, who knows? Maybe Japan beating the fuck out of me. Then a verbal assault from my wife is happening. Then I just take the fucking thing off, put the paddles down, and just fucking walk it off. Good day. That's the Oculus. I need to stay out of there because I've been enjoying this thing.

It is not fun up there at the top. I played against a couple of the boys this weekend. Gumpy got into the Oculus Arena. Oh, how'd it go? I heard he's pretty good. Tough match, tough match. Get warmed up. Gumpy's not bad.

He almost broke a wall that he painted at Nick's house. I mean, it was one of those things. Going hard, at least. Feels like that Packers team is at a place that everybody has to be pumped about if you're associated with that Packers organization. Joining us now is a man who could have broke some news, chose not to. Instead, this morning put out a tweet of confirmation about the hiring that Urban Meyer made as the strength coach for the Jacksonville Jaguars. Also a man who watched diligently this past weekend during the divisional round so that he could have great, astute conversation about football.

Ladies and gentlemen, college football champion and Super Bowl champion, A.J. Huff. How's it going, A.J.? It's going pretty well. How are you? You know, not too shabby. Lazard was a good conversation I was pumped about. Ian Rappaport didn't really break much news, but he was a good conversation. And the divisional round was awesome. I thought we had a lot of really good football.

How are you doing, A.J.? I'm doing well. I heard most And the divisional round was awesome. I thought we had a lot of really good football. How are you doing, AJ? I'm doing well. I heard most of the Rappaport interview. It was good. A lot of interesting stuff, especially with the coaching hires. Yeah, and then also he kind of said that he's getting direct information from owners and GMs, right? Because I asked him, I said, who would be getting that information?

He said, well, in that situation, it's the owner and GM or whatever. Because I also asked, in other situations like this, who would be giving you information that you would say is good getting that information? He said, well, that situation is the owner and GM or whatever. And I'm like, cause I also asked in other situations like this, who would be giving you information that you would say is good, reliable information. And then when he said that, I was like, did he hear me say in other situations like this, or is that who's talking to these guys? Do these guys just have billionaires texting them about what's breaking in their whole entire organization? That's very fascinating to me. And they'll never give up their sources. But I would like to know, like, the range of who the fuck is it. Can I – owners? Or is it, like, assistant coaches?

You know what I mean, AJ? I want to know who it is all the time. Well, I mean, there's definitely assistant coaches that talk to the media a lot. And there's people in front offices that aren't the GM that are below them. There's a lot of people that work for a team. So there's so many different people that can be sources. But he's right. Like, assistant coaches aren't going to know if if they're gonna try to trade deshaun watson or

like they may they probably know what we know like they don't really tell them because we know how paranoid owners gms coaches everybody they don't want to tell anybody what they're gonna do how'd you find out about schlegel to the uh strength coach position in jacksonville uh after he flew down there and i think interviewed or got his contract dialed in, that's when I found out about it. When was that? Was it yesterday, I think? Oh, yeah.

Sure, dude. Yeah. I saw rumblings. You could have dipped your toes into the news-breaking pond. You could have been the guy. That's not really my thing. I know, but it's kind of, you know, every once in a while you just fucking see the pool, and you're like, you know what, fuck it.

Wah! Wah! And then you kind of like get to shore, and you're like, all right, I'm cool with that. You know what I mean? Just thought you were going to jump on in. Thought it was going to happen. How pumped are you, though, for him? Is this something he wanted to do? Was he a strength coach somewhere else?

I know he had the incredible show alongside General Bob Carpenter in the mornings in Columbus, which we do listen to over here. But what was he doing and how pumped are you? Is he going to be perfect for this job? Yeah, he's going to be awesome, man. Anyone that's been around Schlage, he's the most positive, upbeat, hardcore,

savage guy there is. He wasn't looking for this job, no. I think Urban reached out to him when it looked like he was going to make the jump, and I think he told Schlage, like, hey, I want you to be my guy. And Schlage, he was a strength coach at Ohio State. He was an assistant strength coach in that picture they show of him jacking that dude. He was an assistant under Urban then.

Then he got out and just left on his own and started his own thing. He's selling this thing called The Difference. He's making it. He's hustling all over the country. And then this got out and just left on his own and started his own thing. He's selling this thing called The Difference. He's making it. He's hustling all over the country. And then this opportunity came up. I think he thought about it for a while. And, bam, he's going down there. What is The Difference?

Is that a pre-workout, dude? No, it's like this striking tool that he sells to weight rooms all around, high school, college, and the NFL. A lot of places have it. What is it? It's like a little mini sled. Like, you know the sleds out there that you hit for like... Hit!

It's like a mini one that you put up in weight rooms. He has them all over weight rooms all over the country. He's become like a bazillionaire with the entrepreneur. I'll just create a thing. Now I'll go down to Jacksonville and become a strength coach in the NFL. Maybe win a Super Bowl or something like that and just have... Good for Coach Slides.

Yes! Buckeye hero. Yeah now let's see who else Urban hires. Has he hired anybody else on that staff? It's interesting because Urban Meyer was asked about it in his press conference and he talked about how he doesn't want to take a lot of people from Ohio State. He said he didn't know if he ended it with some humility. He said to be honest I'm not sure if anybody would want to come anyways. It is Ohio State. But then he talks about how sound the structure of Ohio State coaching is and how maybe one guy will come or something like that.

I mean, there's been a lot of names that have been floated out there. I'm intrigued by it all. Like, for instance, Schlegel was never an NFL strength coach before, right? I mean, Urban Meyer was never an NFL head coach. This guy was never an NFL strength coach. It's like urban meyer was never an nfl head coach this guy was never an nfl strength coach it's like we can figure it out right he's just trying to find i think like the best people he's encountered potentially and be like we can figure this out now i kind of like it by the way because there's a lot of new names in the hiring circles that doesn't normally happen

oh yeah and like when you think about urban knows like my offensive coordinator and my defensive coordinator are very, very important. I'm jumping into this NFL thing with no experience. So that's going to be the most interesting, who those coordinators become and then what's Urban's responsibilities on game day. What's he going to do? Is he going to try to call plays? I doubt it.

But, yeah, it's going to be cool to see how it plays out. I'll tell you what, being a head coach that doesn't call plays would be pretty cool. Yeah. Come on. No heads. Come on. Let's go. We fucking run.

It's like Nagy that one game that he passed it on. He was just on the sideline. Come on. Come on. Step it up. That would be awesome. What do you got, Nick? Schefter said they're interviewing Raheem Morris for the D.C.

Okay. He was just a head coach down there. I would assume his defense started playing got, Nick? Schefter said they're interviewing Raheem Morris for the D.C. Okay, he was just a head coach down there. I would assume his defense started playing better, right? Whenever he got in there, they started winning some games? Yeah. I'll be intrigued to see how all these coaching staffs kind of fold up. Dan Orlovsky is saying that he loves the crew that Bob Sala is putting together up there in New York.

Jeremy Fowler has tweeted out that multiple sources connected to Eagles coaching search believe Patriots offense coordinator Josh McDaniels is a prime candidate for the head coaching job. They're up there in New York. Jeremy Fowler has tweeted out that multiple sources connected to Eagles coaching search believe Patriots offense coordinator Josh McDaniels is a prime candidate for the head coaching job. Bucs defensive coordinator Todd Bowles interviews this afternoon and has some internal support. Chiefs offense coordinator Eric Bien-Ami does not have interview planned. Stay tuned. Okay, so the last tweet was just to, you know, you know, just go ahead and

throw it out. Last tweet was just to, you know, just go ahead and – Stir it up. By the way, if you were wondering. So Josh McDaniel was allegedly met for like four hours or something like that or six hours or something. Those head coaching interviews I've been told in GM interviews, I've been told those things go 10, 12 hours. I mean, Coach McCarthy, what, he spent the night at Jerry's house or whatever.

I mean, I've heard they go a long, long time, which by the way, they should, right? When you're handing over a billion dollar operation or a billion dollar product, you should know everything about him. But I would assume over the Zooms, things are a little bit different. If Josh McDaniels leaves Bill Belichick, and now if what Rob Gronkowski told the commentators about how he's allowed to be his real self in Tampa and Bruce Arians, what he said about Tom Brady, you know, maybe in New England, they didn't let him do what I'm letting him do. Or sometimes I'll just sit back and say, fuck it, you coach, Tom.

If Josh McDaniels wants out of there, why didn't he take the Indianapolis Colts head coaching job, right? And if he wanted to go anywhere, I'm sure he could go wherever. Why would he go to Philadelphia where all the rumors are that you're just going to be told what to do by Howie and Jeff Lurie? How is that going to work out? I wonder if all we're hearing about the hands-on with Peterson is just a specific-to-Peterson type case, or I don't know. It's very interesting how this is all going to kind of unfold well it could be especially with McDaniels like he we know he's not scared what you always

say he turned the jet around he fucking dandy when he had and the press conference was already scheduled somebody somebody earlier said that the deal wasn't done or whatever deal was done dude I was I was dressed I was getting dressed up for the fucking press conference Ballard said the rivalry's back on after it because of that. Yeah. Turner playing around. But don't you think he knows like the leverage he has? So I would imagine if he's interviewing for that long with Philly,

he's probably interviewing them as much as they're interviewing him. Like, all right, is this the gig that I want to take the leap and leave the Patriots for? And I don't know, man. It looks like an uphill battle right now. But, hey, if you can win in Philly, it's a heck of a place to be. And you keep Urban. You know, if you keep Urban in mind with Khan, right?

Allegedly, they were talking for hours on boats, and there's been a long conversation where everybody's talking about Urban was basically talking to Schott about how things, you know, if he was to come, what it would go like or expectations and all that. And Urban was obviously incredibly impressed. If you heard him speak at his press conference, it was pretty impressive. I wonder if Josh McDaniels is doing the same thing with them. Like, I'm reading it. Howie, I heard you were an accountant.

Now you're – like, I wonder if Josh McDaniels is doing all of that. That Texans gig, I think it's going to be tough to find a head coach. Eagles, I guess they found their person, Josh McDaniels is doing all of that. That Texans gig, I think it's going to be tough to find a head coach. Eagles, I guess they found their person, Josh McDaniels. I think there's a couple NFL places where somebody will be the head coach because you get to be a head coach in the NFL. That's a pretty fucking big deal. But I think it's going to be hard to kind of get people in there. What, are you talking Houston?

Is that the toughest spot you think to get a coach in there? I think Houston or Philly. I think those two are – and it's quarterback. It's all around the quarterback. I know you don't like to read, but there is a long Sports Illustrated piece on Easterby and the owner in Houston. Did you read any of that?

I saw the headline. I did not dive into it. But, boy, I guess Easterby. What's going on down there? What's going on with Easterby down there? This guy's got to come on the horn somewhere and get his side. Easterby's got to get his side out somewhere.

This is like fucking Mexico Joe. Joe Donnelly. Joe Donnelly here in Indiana was running for Congress, I think. One of them. Not a politician. This guy was running for something.

He was the incumbent. He had no running for something, and he was the incumbent, and he had no idea what was coming. He was getting attacked every other commercial. Every single other commercial was an attack ad on this guy. I didn't even know this guy existed until I was watching TV, and every commercial was like, listen to what fucking sleepy Joe Donnelly. And they would read off a stat from something he did, and then the next one is, how about Mexico Joe?

On vacation in Acapulco when you're working. This whole thing. And I was like, hey, somebody needs to get on Joe's side here and say, hey, I need to fight back against this a little bit. It feels like Easterby needs to figure out a way to get his story kind of out there. Yeah, he's suing SI for defamation, I believe. Oh, from this story? I thought so. Oh, that's awesome. That's how you get your side out yeah that's exactly how you would you read it i guess it's uh it's it's slander lawsuit worthy i guess what was in there was it pretty deep

yeah it was long my brother sent it to me and it took me a while before i could even respond back because i i did read it in segments throughout the day. But, yeah, Easterby is such a polarizing thing to do. Segments throughout the day? Diesel. It's long, yeah. I mean, reading on your phone, yeah, throughout the day. I mean, I could have sat there and read it all in one time, but I didn't. How many scrolls are we talking?

A lot. You know, when you start scrolling, you look to the right to see how much longer, and you see, like, well, this isn't ending anytime soon. That's when you take a break and come back later. Man, there's no chance I would have read that.'m thankful that you did what was in there yeah like a lot of stuff like easterby's not quoted really but he's like his lawyer is quoted and they they claim that easterby has called certain players in the team to try to say good things about him if if asked publicly like all of these things then easterby's lawyer kind of denies that in the article like it's so weird man like Easterby absolutely has to sit down and do like a long-form interview I think

yeah I would say I read it Pat the guy's snake oil through and through he's gonna sue us he's gonna sue us allegedly allegedly he's gonna sue us yeah allegedly allegedly please Nick Nick You read it? When did you read it? I thought you were painting all weekend. No, you sent it to me like a week ago, and you're like, hey, read this. So I did, and he. Hell, you. I knew about this story.

Yeah, that's how I knew about it, because I probably opened it, by the way. Did a scroll, saw what you saw on the side, was like, fuck that. It was a long one. Okay, thank you, by the way. But it was all about his come up in New England, how he was the team chaplain, and how he parlayed that to get to Houston, and then he parlayed that into somehow having a say in personnel. It's a wild ride.

God bless you, and give me a fucking raise. I like that. Good for him, man. It's weird. They talk about he and Cal McNair like praying in his office. Oh, so it's a. Oh, my God, it is. Wow.

I didn't know that. That's probably why lawsuits are coming, because people are probably saying there's a chance that he's potentially brain. Brain. Really? Allegedly. I mean, if he's his pastor, he's become his pastor. In his ear. Yeah.

You see stories like this happen. Personal chaplain. Uh-huh. Especially if you're waking up praying. What? Receiving the word during the day. What? Before you eat dinner.

What? Before you go to bed. What? While you're taking a shit. What? Taking a moment to yourself. What? Praying to who? What? How? What? Why? What? When? What? Before you go to bed. What? While you're taking a shit. What? Taking a moment to yourself. What? Praying to who?

What? How? What? Why? What? When? What? This guy.

What? From New England. What? Comes into my house. What? Gets on his knees in front of me. What? Says pray with me.

What? You got it, pal. What? Who should we cut? What? DeAndre Hopkins? What? Get him the fuck out of here.

What? Deshaun Watson? What? He stinks. What? Who should we talk to? What? The Lord. What? God. What? The son of here. Deshaun Watson? He stinks. Who should we talk to? The Lord. God.

The son of Jesus. Who is Tim Tebow. Enough. That went too far. We are not trying to slander here at all. But what we're saying is that's a wild thing to hear about, and I guess I should have read it so I could have an accurate take on the entire situation. I mean, is there any way we can make the information a little more concise?

Because I like reading. I don't want to read a 55-page report. Nick, how many scrolls on this thing, if you had to guess? Maybe 20. Holy shit. Laptop scrolls or phone scrolls? Laptop scrolls. Holy shit.

Oh, my God. That's like 50 to 60. Like Dead Sea Scrolls scrolls like we're talking way in there really good god oh my god that's a lot of time who wrote that somebody wanted it someone at si man it's crazy listen guys if i ever hire a pastor make sure we're breaking up the conversation oh yeah so it's not all's not all day, every day. I think we'd be all right. Easterby is the pastor, though. What's that?

Oh, fuck. What if we're getting sued? According to three sources, Easterby told multiple people inside the building that he had sued or planned to sue SI for defamation and had therefore been provided with a list of identifying all sources for that story. That is untrue. SI has not been notified of any lawsuit nor disclosed the identity of any of its sources. Multiple people who have worked with Easterby also say that he has told people in both Houston and New England, including the McNairs, that the Kraft family, which owns the Patriots,

is behind the negative press about him. Some of these people also say he has spread a story that the Krafts are investors in SI or had directly funded Sports Illustrated's's reporting that is also untrue si has no financial relationship with the crafts or any of their business ventures including the patriots the crafts declined si's interview requests for the story easter bee denies telling colleagues that the craft family has an ownership stake in si and mcnair says he does not believe si is funded by the Kraft family. Okay. Easter. Everybody's got something that they've been told by somebody somewhere somehow that isn't true at all.

I mean, that's a wild take right there. That guy spawned a hell of a web, though. Wow. How can we interview Easter Bee, AJ? How do we get Easter Bee on this one? I mean, if he wants, like, an open platform where he can actually speak and have as much time as he wants, this is the place to be. I got questions about some other shit, too. A lot of questions. We can start from father, son, Holy Spirit, whole thing.

Chaplain into where you're at now. Let's tell the story, Easterby. Let's tell the story. Because if not, all the stories that are being told, not good. No, not great. Not good. They hate him, the honor.

Yeah. Jesus. Need to ask him what God thought about Billy O. I got a question. What was that? Because I assume

a lot of people have this question, just not me who's listening to this conversation. In the hierarchy of the religion, so you got Pope,

probably God and Jesus probably above the Pope. Where does the chaplain fall? Oh, cha below priest right and pastor uh believe so chaplains like your friend yeah your pal like a sponsor do you speak through a window to him no no no it's priest right yeah it's priest confessions i'm not harpsichord although i would guess that some team chaplains are pastors yeah or priests. No, I don't think so. Well, they're there the whole time, aren't they? I think...

We had a chaplain. He's a pastor, I think. I'm not sure there's any priests that are chaplains. Chaplains are normally, what, representatives of God in your particular friend group? I think pastors can fornicate. Yeah. That would make sense. In reverence.

That's why the hierarchy there is the rules about what you can do. First, you can't do because you are a representative of the Lord. Some of them have got to be wrong, I'd assume. But the chaplain, was he a pastor? He was probably a pastor before. Probably a pastor, yeah, I would assume. Who is your chaplain? It is traditionally a cleric or a lay representative of a religious

tradition attached to a secular institution such as a hospital prison military unit intelligence agency embassy school labor union business police department fire department university sports club or private chapel so we could technically potentially have a chaplain for this office oh yeah we need one of them you guys need jesus bad bring easter bean yeah let's get him in here i think it'd be cool to have a chaplain here how is the chaplain at green bay well it's good when uh you know big mike is a catholic guy so we had a catholic priest as well as like a chaplain slash pastor yeah i always have we had a uh i believe we had chaplain pastor and priest three representatives of the lord damn three amigos yeah i had questions the one guy's name was eric he was very nice he was the uh chaplain i believe he's a pastor at a church

and he was so cool he was so boy i peppered him with questions though i mean it was always a good time when i had questions about what was going on i understand that there's things that have happened here but i got questions on how always incredibly patient had great answers he was very good at what he did for a living if we would ever hire a pastor would have to be like that because i would assume that person is going to take question bombs all day from this particular toxic group of people here what do the mormons say on the cults that we're listening to these people? Well, see, that's the interesting thing is because, you know, I'm not getting into it.

I'm not getting into it. I'm not getting into it. I'm not getting into it. AJ, God bless you, dude. Peace be with you. God bless you. I'm kind of technically a pastor. I've officiated a few weddings, so.

Oh. I'm a minister. A minister, right? It's a minister. I've officiated a few weddings, so. I'm a minister. A minister, right? It's a minister. I don't know. I don't know what it is. I donated, and then I got it. You may be a chaplain. I got an email. I got an email that says I can do it. You're an ordained minister. Yeah, I'm a minister. That's

low, low, right? Minister's the lowest. What was that institution again that ordained you? What's that? Fuck, I can find it. Do you remember? Was it something like Universal Life Church? Universal Life Ministries.

Yeah, yeah. There it is. Oh, I'll fill alumni. You and I are brother in Universal Life Church. I have a card. I'm a card-carrying member. Yeah, me too. Let's go.

Yeah, me too. Me and you both, man. Me and you both. May the Lord be with, me too. Me and you both, man. Me and you both. May the Lord be with you, Paul. God bless you, Paul. No, God bless you. God bless you. Hey, listen, when I pray every morning, every night,

I pray that I can say God bless you to people that deserve it. And God damn it, you deserve it over there, AJ. God bless you, Paul. Amen. Hell yeah. God bless you. Do I need to send money in now so you can buy a private jet we are collecting we are collecting so sorry to interrupt but i want to let you know that if

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If you haven't used it yet, use it now. Also, there's fantasy on there, daily fantasy and free to play games where you can win money. Shout to FanDuel, shout to you. Let's get back to the show. AJ Hawk, let's talk about that Cleveland Browns touchdown touchback, shall we? Get your idea on it. I understand why people are angry, but it's just one of those things where I've always like, yeah, the rules is the rules. Like the rules have always been that way. Now I have never been anywhere near scoring a touchdown, okay,

and had it completely ruined and yanked out of my hands and my team's hands half an inch away and completely changing the entire game there. I mean, just completely changing a red zone turnover, like the 101 yard touchdown return that happened. It's just, those are big time plays. And I think people are fed up with this particular situation happening, but I believe the NFL is going to steadfast with, Hey,

this is just the way the rules are. Don't do it. AJ, how do you feel about this entire thing? I mean, the rule does seem to, I guess, penalize offensive guys for going for the touchdown, which I don't know. Does that help even out some of the rules that, you know, the defense isn't allowed to touch the offense really much anymore? But I do think this rule is dumb.

I do think it should change. But I don't know what it should change to. Like, what should the penalty be? Well, everybody just says you should there's no no penalty you just get it back to the the spot obviously of where you fumbled or in there's been people they're like well you should have to recover it or whatever well that's just a fumble then that's just a natural fumble it's not the same situation that happens over and over and over again i don't know i I just, for me, for instance, I could see how a sports book could potentially refund people that this happened to them because it is just like a, nobody really likes it.

Right? Like for me, I'm not even like a big proponent of we need to change the rule. Like I'm not coming out and saying that. I just, every time it happens, it's like, oh, that's one of those rules that is just like not the most fun one. But there's other things that happen in football, you know, that I just think are much more prevalent than that rule. But whenever it happens, boy, everybody hates it.

You know what I mean? And it happens, what, like almost quarterly of the season, it feels like, at this point? I believe I saw it. It happened three times last year, three times the year before. But eight times this year I thought I saw it. Could be wrong. Man, guys are getting faster.

You're going to see a lot of that. And also, high contact right down there near the end zone. It's not easy to get in, dude. You think the Browns got screwed? A.J, guys are getting faster. You're going to see a lot of that. And also, high contact right down there near the end zone. It's not easy to get in, dude. You think the Browns got screwed? AJ, if that rule didn't exist, which everybody hates, the Browns would probably win that game. Yeah, they'd have a better chance to win. But how about Sorensen?

Nobody's talking about the play Sorensen made. That was a hell of a play. They're saying, oh, it was helmet-to-helmet. You should have got a helmet-to-helmet penalty. First off, I don't think there should be targeting or helmet-to helmet to helmet calls when you're on the goal line like i think those are impossible to avoid ct doesn't exist down here okay it doesn't and that was an unbelievable play by sorenson that nobody's talking about because they're just talking about the rule and by the way the helmet to helmet it wasn't like the most clear helmet to helmet it was a hell of a fucking

play it was a big time shot they're both crouching down obviously that's how it goes so it's gonna be hard to get your head into a position where it's not what especially whenever you're down that low but what a fucking play you know and normally when this i would assume there would be a lot more than eight this year if the ball you know because normally the ball crosses the plane and then it happens and it's like well across the plane that one's so heartbreaking, I bet, for the Browns fans. But a hell of a play on defense side. How about Tyron Matthew?

He could have had two last night, had one pick. That defense last year in the playoffs started making plays for him. Did that happen last night? Did that start again? Is this the same Chiefs squad that we saw last year in the playoffs that knew when they had to make a play? Chad fucking Henney made it, and their defense could be opportunistic out there.

Yeah, their defense definitely, they're going to be tested against Josh Allen and the Bills, but have you got any kind of follow-up? I know you guys read off about a tweet about a nerve situation with Patrick Mahomes. I read on somewhere that they said he was in the concussion protocol this morning they said that. Do we know anything?

Andy Reid gave it to Carrington Harrison, our guy, got an inside source, told him that. It wasn't actually a head at all. It was a nerve thing, which scary nonetheless, but that would mean if it wasn't a concussion, then you would think he wouldn't have to go into the concussion protocol. But then Andy Reid had his Zoom call today, and he talked about how Patrick is in the protocol, basically.

And now the protocol calls for an independent party to decide whether or not the person's good or not I mean there's a lot of drama around it right now but I will be intrigued to see what happened to him like was it because it looked weird you know what I mean it looked very weird and then whenever he got up it looked ugly it was very sad so I'll be excited to hear what kind of happened out there and who was the guy tackling him Mack Wilson Mack Wilson came out and was like whoa whoa people calling me saying it's a dirty hit that ain't me at all that ain't like me at all well i remember when i was watching the replay i'm trying to see like where he took like where the concussion could happen to the

mac wilson's arm like chopped at his neck kind of bringing him down so i could understand if there was a nerve thing but then the front of his head as you see here his forehead hit the grass i guess that could have caused it because those are brutal when your head, whether the back or the front, hits any kind of hard surface like that. It sucks. I'll tell you what. I caught somebody in a guillotine in college. You know what I mean?

If you cut off a car, that can knock you out, like a light or whatever. I don't know if it makes you wooble, though, afterwards. You know what I mean? But I did think there was a chance because his hand was under his helmet above his pads. By the way, it probably should have been a 15-yarder. Nobody's talking about them not getting that call. But it felt like that was – not on purpose.

I'm not saying he did it on purpose, but that's a tackle above the header. I mean, that's a pretty – I thought maybe he choked him out or something, but a nerve would make sense because every time they showed the replay, But a nerve would make sense because every time they showed the replay, Reid is asked by Nate Taylor. Shout out Nate Taylor for the question here being reported by Lindsay Jones of The Athletic about Mahomes' toe. Said he thinks Mahomes will be all right on that front. By the way, I've broken a toe here in the last year.

It is a pain in the ass. It is very annoying. I would assume they have certain things that you can go ahead and make that disappear for a bit, but it's going to hurt like hell on the other side. And then Reed sidestepped a question on if Mahomes is formally diagnosed with a concussion. Said that because Mahomes is staggering, he is required to go into the concussion protocols. So if he didn't get an actual concussion, though,

then he'll be able to pass all those tests like he did last night. He'll be out of the concussion protocol soon. So we should know probably tomorrow if he was in the concussion though then he'll be able to pass all those tests like he did last night he'll be out of the concussion protocol soon so we should know probably tomorrow if he was in the concussion protocol when we were checking back here also apparently a spinal cord concussion is a real thing spike that nick was that what you were talking about whenever you're talking about sydney crosby yeah so similar thing happened to sydney crosby a couple years ago just real quick before you go any further greatest hockey player to ever play hockey. Go ahead. People say. And he had to miss the season half, and they determined that it was actually swelling from the C1 and C2 joint

in the neck, soft tissue neck injury that causes concussion-like symptoms. I don't know what any of that means. Sounds scary. So it's not a concussion, but it gives you the same symptoms of a concussion? Similar symptoms and neurological issues as well. So that would explain why he was a little bit wobbly. So it is a concussion. And if he has the same neurological thing, will that affect the test moving forward,

the baseline test and everything like that? That's why it's so hard to tell. That's why people, they couldn't find out what was wrong with Sid. He was out for a season and a half because they thought it was a concussion, kept trying to treat it like it was a concussion. Turns out it was a neck injury. So he won't say two. Also, Sidney Crosby potentially saved Patrick Mahomes

because they're going to be like, oh, this happened to the greatest hockey player of all time. You should check this out. It'll be fine. Good spin. No, that makes it much more scary, I think, because as you said, or as Nick said, Sidney Crosby missed a season and a half with this. People don't want Patrick Mahomes to miss one week.

They didn't know what it was. It was brand new in the medical world. They mistreated it. They said, hey, if we would have known, I would have been back on the ice 18 months ago. Yeah, six days later, maybe. Let's hope. Oh, man, that's a tough look for AJ there.

Frozen. Jeez, look at him. Penn's almost got sold to Kansas City, so Kansas City's aware of the situation. What's that, pal? Penn's almost got sold to Kansas City. Kansas City's aware of the situation. What's that, pal? The Penns and Kansas City have ties, so they know what happened to Crosby.

That was a very scary thing to see Patrick Mahomes like that because you saw his guy try to hold him, and then whenever he wobbled like that, you saw him look around like, oh, no, like our guy. Like, where am I? Good thing. Hey, that's why you pay a good backup quarterback. That's right.

That's why you got to have a good backup quarterback, AJ. I know, and I thought on Henny's long run, I thought can they challenge the spot, whatever it looks. I know his elbow was down, but I felt like that was pretty close. Me and you both, by the way. And I know that the – was it Jim and Tony? Yeah. Yeah.

Jim and Tony – it was, by the way, because he was very fooled by Chad Henney. Yeah, man. Who could forget? We're down. Good for shout-out to Tony getting surprised out there. Didn't think that was possible. No. But it was a good piece of television there.

They were talking as if the spot was right. I thought after they showed the replay, I had even more questions. They're like, well, you see his arms down there. It's like, yeah, but, I mean, what are we looking at here? That was the game. You know what I mean? I think we should have potentially taken a look at that. A lot of interesting stuff last night.

Let's go to Bill's Ravens game. What were your thoughts on that? Terrible kicking conditions. Bass misses one. Tuck missed two somehow. That never happens. People are asking if it was our fault for asking them questions about why he never misses. I'm going to let you know.

That is not our fault. Okay. that was god himself all over that stadium what are you expecting out of them also 101 yard pick six i mean that game was rather interesting there the buck or the bills seem to be hot at the right time though yeah they do like we've talked about on the show for a month like the bills have something going on they have something special they've created there and hey they're gonna have a hell of a test with the chiefs it'd be a lot easier without pat mahomes we'll see what what his status is like but yeah that you can't you have 101 yard pick six like that's a tough hurdle to overcome i'd be so tired by the way man if i'm on i thought about this i'd get tackled at the one so that the offense had to go out there, defense had to go out there.

I can go to the sideline and at least get a – you know what I mean? Then there's a timeout, there's an extra point, there's a timeout, there's a kickoff, then we're back out there. Because whenever you do that, okay, extra point, kickoff, you're right back out there. You know what I mean? That is – I mean, maybe we should be playing a little bit more chess as opposed to just checkers at the moment.

But 101-yard pick six in a divisional round is something you probably want on the mantle there for a little bit. Yeah, grab a bonus too. I can understand that. Probably. He deserves it. In fact, he survived that thing. It's awesome.

Buck Saints, your thoughts on that entire game? Drew Brees allegedly retiring, says Jay Glazer. What did Jay Glazer say? Listen, Drew is going to retire after this game, I think. But I don't know. But I think he... Drew Thun. That was good. He adds new people to his arsenal daily.

Jay Glazer's been around. He doesn't get brought out much. Because we are Jay Glazer fans or whatever. But he did just drop that. He said, today will be the last game or whatever because if they won, they had to go to Lambeau. But then he followed up with it on back end of it and was like, oh, next week's going to be his last game or whatever.

He's going to retire basically. He confirmed it. So what are your thoughts on that whole thing? Tom Brady playing catch with Drew Brees' kids, all that. What are your thoughts on the entire game? Yeah, that was a cool video to see, obviously, watching Tom throw a nice touchdown to one of Drew's kids. But, yeah, the game, I guess the good thing is at least I picked all the winners,

I know. I think the only thing I missed on was the over. The Chiefs, who knew Pat Mahomes would get hurt. If he didn't get hurt, they would have hit the 10-point spread, and I would have been undefeated on all my picks. Oh, what'd you go, 3-1? I mean, if you take the spread, yeah, but I picked all the winners. Well, that's what we do.

Come on. It's betting is what we do. So you went 3-1? I guess. Yeah, he did. He had the bills outright, too. Oh, yeah. Good job.

I went 3-2 on the weekend. I went 3-2. So you're – you know, I lose more money for people. It's all right. It's a good game. It was fun. I guess 3-3, really, if you had the Pats picks. Yeah.

The Guinos. I had a much better game. It depends who the Capitals are. How do you think the Bucs beat us yesterday? 7-3. 7-3? Holy shit. That was a weekend.

Nobody's talking about that. Man. Anyway, sorry about that. 3-1 is very fucking impressive, though. What do you think is going to happen this weekend? Early thoughts on the game. You think Tampa Bay Q Gronkineers travel into Lambeau and do the unthinkable? Topple the incredibly hot offense of the Green Bay Packers?

Or do you think maybe the Buffalo Bills can knock off the Kansas City Chiefs over there in Arrowhead Stadium? What are your thoughts? Well, when you talk about Packers-Bucks, I mean, obviously this is going to be an awesome game. Everyone's excited for it. And there's no easy way, obviously, to beat the Packers. If Aaron's rolling like he is, if they're running the ball,

they almost rush for 200 yards on the league's best defense, supposedly. How do you stop them? You've got to hope they have some kind of weird off day. You have to force a few turnovers. And if you're Tampa Bay, you have to be perfect on offense by just you can't commit turnovers, can't fumble, can't throw a pick. And then if you're on defense for the Bucs, find a way to get off the field on third down

because Aaron and the Packers' offense is unbelievable on third down. And it seems like every time they just make it look too easy too. That's what makes them look like they're so difficult to beat did you see him not wear his long johns that's what i knew i was like oh this dude doesn't even think it's cold outside right now there's gloves and full body suits on the other side he doesn't i mean it was it was unbelievable but for the the bills chiefs you think chiefs lose i mean it all depends on my homes i think my homes is in i think there's a good do you think Chiefs lose? I mean, it all depends on Mahomes. I think if Mahomes is in, I think there's a good chance. You think Chad Henney stinks?

No, I actually like Chad Henney. I feel much more confident with Chad Henney there compared to like a two- or three-year guy that we've never really seen play. So I think Chad Henney can definitely be successful. I just don't know if you can keep up with the Bills offense. How can they afford Chad Henney at backup quarterback with everybody else that they've paid? You know what I mean?

Makes no sense. Normally the backup quarterback is where they sacrifice some cash at because they have to pay somebody else. You got 35-year-old Chad Henney out there balling, just absolutely crushing. And by the way, that's one of those things that if the Browns beat them last night, everybody's like happy for the Browns, but that was without Patrick Mahomes and all that. But still,

the Chiefs have this thing where they're going to go win the game, and it trickles all the way through the backup quarterback is a 35-year-old man who I didn't even know was still in the NFL. That was awesome to watch. He was a buzzsaw, dude. He was slinging that thing and just getting dropped into the game that late, too, when it's that cold.

That's not an easy thing to do. Rolling out to his right, throwing a dime on fourth and one to go to the Super Bowl or go to the championship. I mean, that's a big-time play on Chad Henney. That's a gigantic – I mean, I don't know. The biggest play of his NFL career for sure. Keeps the Chiefs' Super Bowl hopes alive. But it was a funny sequence listening to Tony talk.

Look at their body language. They're not running a play. There's nothing going on. And I was like – I'm watching like, I don't know, man. I didn't know either way. I't gonna declare like i knew but then you see tyree kill with his little little inside jab and i'm like oh there it is it's over and hen like henny though to his credit he made it looks easy but in the think about yourself in those circumstances how tough that throw actually is yeah because you're throwing to an actual cheetah

too it's like one time me and Zito, we had a completion on a plane that was going 890 miles an hour. People thought it couldn't be done. We had it. That's what's happening in real life with Chad Henney on fourth and one. Basically, your entire season on the line makes it play. I thought Chad Henney retired long ago. Oh, yeah.

Long ago. Actually, while I was doing a video, I was thinking about posting it. I thought it was a different Henney retired long ago. Oh, yeah. Long ago. Actually, while I was doing a video, I was thinking about posting it. I thought it was a different Henney. There's no way this is Chad fucking Henney. Younger brother. This was before he made that big play. Yeah, I thought it was a cousin. Chucky Henney.

I thought it was a different fucking Henney. Yeah. Chad Henney. Same guy. 35 years old. Fucking getting the Chiefs at a Super Bowl, potentially. Beast. That's unbelievable, dude.

What's up with the Bills? They're donating money to Lamar? Yeah. Yeah. Like $150,000, I think, was mentioned earlier. Okay, big shout out. You know, you guys at Pick 6 got us another round. Appreciate it.

We've been waiting for this for a long time, dude. There were some people at the airport, too, asking for autographs. Ravens and Bills fans for Lamar. Similar to when they donated to Dalton when he got him in the playoffs or whatever. Oh, that's very nice of the Bills mafia, dude. Good people. They deserve it, man. What is there, 6,700 of them? How many of them were in the stands? Something like that. Yeah, something like that. Same as

Packers. Hold on, there was, Kansas City had a bunch, right? Yeah, Kansas City was packed. They were packed. They were packed packed. That was like $75,000. That's awesome. That's real humphrey. By the way, Aaron with the crowd was even doing a little like, hey, it has to feel so good for some of those teams, like a little boost.

Okay, we've got some actual fans in here. Wait until the Super Bowl when they got, you know, the front line first responders vaccinated crowd. Those motherfuckers are going to be going ham in there. Ham in there. All those Packers players said that like $ 000 felt like 90 000 so imagine in kansas city you know 35 i'm sure feels like 500 000 let's go dude dan campbell head coach of detroit lions look out you know what i mean motor city dan aj, they don't have a GM yet, right?

Yeah, they do. Brad Holmes or whatever. Got him from the Rams. Yeah, he's the director of college scouting from the Rams. By the way, Rams is the director of college scouting, defense coordinator. Sean McVay wants quarterback out of there. Uh-oh.

Oh, no. Bringing the wolf. Is McVay going to go do Monday Night Football? Whoa. That was a rumor last year, wasn't it? Oh, yeah. They wanted him. They legit wanted him.

I mean, still, if you're McVay, it's nice to know that's there. Hey, it's there. And by the way, you can do that for how many? Five, ten years and go get another head coaching job that has a much better salary cap situation. Yeah. Whatever you could possibly need. Let me just go be loved by the fans of football for a couple you know years

or whatever. I'm going to talk really fast right? He's the perfect guy for television. Super knowledgeable super successful obviously very handsome dude

and he's entertaining. I mean he's perfect and he has to know it though. He's Groot. He is Groot. He sounds like Groot. He's like an attractive Groot. Good for him dude. He'd fucking crush in. He's like an attractive Gruden. Good for him, dude.

He'd fucking crush in there. How? What? They got to go get him. No, no, no. They're going to let, obviously. They'll be fine. Is Louis Riddick getting any GM jobs?

No. Not that he's gotten yet. When do they make those hirings? GMs just happen randomly? They kind of go quietly in the night? A lot of them are filled, right? Yeah, just the last two. Eagles and Texans are the only two, right? GMs, Texans? They kind of go quietly in the night? A lot of them are filled, right? Yeah, just the last two. Eagles and Texans are the only two, right?

GMs, Texans. Casario. Have the Panthers hired one? Yeah. Let me make sure. That's a whole list of I don't know who the fuck you are. Yeah, no clue. Probably be pretty good.

Yeah, Scott Fitterers. Are you going to go coach down in Jacksonville, dude? Nope. I would not. That's not my thing, and I did not get offered any kind of position either from Urban. Wow. That's breaking news right there.

Shame, yeah. I thought for sure he'd probably try to give me my first NFL experience, maybe D coordinator. That'd be sweet. I mean, Schlage's in the weight room. Yeah. Come get all the Buckeye heroes. General Bob Team Chaplain.

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