The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 351 - Tampa Bay's Super Bowl Parade, Patrick Queen, Kurt Angle, & AJ Hawk
Episode Date: February 10, 2021On today's show, Pat and the boys chat more about Russell Wilson potentially wanting out of town, Tampa Bay's Super Bowl boat parade, and everything else happening in the sports world currently. Joi...ning the show is the 28th overall pick of the 2020 NFL Draft, a man who just finished 3rd in the Defensive Rookie of the Year voting, Ravens LB, Patrick Queen to chat about this past season, when he knew he could be great, what he'll do this offseason, and his relationship with Ray Lewis (18:18-29:25). Next, Olympic Gold medalist, 4x WWF/WWE Champion, one of the most accomplished wrestlers of all-time, Kurt Angle joins Pat and AJ Hawk to chat about his career as an Olympic Gold medalist, his career in the WWE, how he manages he stay in shape the way he does, and his new podcast that will unearth a lot of stories from his incredible career (29:27-49:51). Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow and listen every day on Mad Dog Radio, Sirius XM Channel 82. We appreciate you all for listening, come and laugh with us, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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hello it is wednesday february 10th 2021 already time is flying hey big show huge show today let's
get to it shall we yeah yeah let's do it there are some things cooking in the sports headlines
we do have some guests patrick queen who came in third in defensive rookie of the year voting
will be joining us in about 20 minutes or so. He was not happy about being voted third.
I got a lot of respect for that, somebody that wants to win Rookie of the Year.
He was somebody who would have been available for the Green Bay Packers
if they wanted to trade up and maybe help lift something they would have needed
to get past the NFC Championship game.
Instead, they get Jordan Love.
We'll see how that pick fares.
But there was a lot of other people that could have passed
or picked Patrick Queen and decided to pass he was a monster at LSU he came
into Baltimore made plays early cannot wait to chat with him about the culture in there there's
a lot of conversation revolving around the Ravens today as well as their offensive lineman is looking
to get traded because he wants to play left tackle instead of going back to right tackle
Orlando Brown who moved over to left tackle from right tackle
about eight weeks into the season as Ronnie Stanley got hurt.
Orlando Brown played great at left tackle.
Now he is saying, hey, listen, I want to continue to play left tackle.
You need to get me out of here.
They're like, no, no, no, we're moving you right back to right tackle.
We got Ronnie Stanley here who's great.
We got you at right tackle. We got a couple here, who's great. We got you at right tackle.
We got a couple other guys.
We got to make up for Yonda leaving, which is a bigger problem
than a lot of people thought it was going to be.
Can't have it.
He's like, no, no, no.
The difference between what left tackles get paid
and the difference between what right tackles get paid
is vastly different to the tune of $5 million a year difference
between the highest paid left tackle
and the highest paid right tackle.
Bakhtiari just set the entire thing
at $23 million a year.
He is getting paid for left tackle
for the MVP, Aaron Rodgers.
And at right tackle,
the highest is like $18 million
or something like that.
That is a $5 million difference,
which is why Orlando Brown
tackle for the Ravens says,
it's nothing about you,
Baltimore. Hey, this is not personal at all. This is strictly business to the tune of like $25
million over five years of a little bit of a difference. And I'm good over here. I'm never
going to get to play over here with Ronnie here because Ronnie's good here. Seems like you've got
a plethora of talent at this one position. Go ahead and let me go. Let me spread my wings and
let me go ahead and fly my ass
right into a much bigger bank account i respect this move who knows how that's going to pan out
orlando brown is just the most recent person to want traded from their team allegedly russell
wilson's team not russell wilson the people around russell okay the chef yes yep the chef the manager the agent the body guru the strength staff
spirituality coach the the chaplain yep the team sierra right she's part of the team i'd assume
future the babies the kids everything well he's part of the old team too but the team around
russell wilson russell wil Wilson has not said that he wants
out he has come out and said he's sick of getting hit or something like that which a lot of people
would I'd assume if you've been sacked the most amount of times in a nine-year span in NFL history
or something like that to start your career but then people go back to you know the way he plays
everything like that but his team wants him out of Seattle it seems like which is interesting
because now the narrative is,
will Russell Wilson get traded?
Because will Deshaun Watson getting traded
is something that's kind of old news now
that's still potentially happening.
But as these players continue to allegedly
want out of positions, it's great for us.
The drama is great for us to talk about.
But also, it's hard not to talk about
the reality of these situations
and will it ever be able to change.
The NFL contract situation is much different than the NBA one.
The NBA one favors the players a lot because the NBA is 1,000% a players-driven league.
Now, granted, the NFL is as well.
You all saw that when XFL you watch and the AAFL and all that stuff.
You need great players, but it is not set up the same way CBA-wise
for the players to be able to control their narrative,
control their outcome, control that.
And it hasn't been for a long time.
Are we seeing the transition of that?
And Russell Wilson, who's, what, the nicest guy?
Literally just won the best human in the NFL award
with the Walter Payton Man of the Year.
He is potentially going to be trying to get out of his situation.
And a lot of people say it's very interesting because, you know, to keep Russell
Wilson in Seattle, they had to pay him a bunch of money. And anytime you pay somebody a bunch of
money, sometimes you have to get rid of other good players because you're not able to afford them
because of what Russell Wilson was demanding in cash in the contract negotiation where he was
potentially going to leave Seattle. They get rid of the Legion of Boom. They get rid of a lot of things. They go with
Russell Wilson moving forward. Now, I do not believe that just because you pay a quarterback,
you can't find good players or pay good players to surround him. A lot of people have been able
to do that. There are some GMs that are great at salary cap manipulation or whatever, but Russell
Wilson's team saying, you guys aren't doing great at protecting me.
The team isn't good enough, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Russell Wilson hasn't officially said that.
His team has.
How will the Seattle Seahawks team feel about Russell's team?
There's just so much bullshit popping off, and guess what?
We're going to be here to talk about it.
Hell yeah.
There's a lot of things going on.
Dak Prescott wasn't in.
Here's some more bullshit.
Dak Prescott wasn't in the hype video for the 2021 season that's about to come up. Yeah, they had everybody else in their
special teams plays. They had everybody else making plays. It's gonna be on team Dak Prescott,
who is not officially under contract for the 2021 season with the Dallas Cowboys just yet was left
out of the hype video and social media team down here in Dallas is getting called into question by the NBC Sports in Washington, D.C.
They're the ones that notice it.
They're like, funny, funny, you see?
And they just stirred the pot.
And by the way, because it's the Dallas Cowboys
and because it's Dak Prescott, the rest of the world just was like,
oh my, oh my, oh, they don't even want him down there.
I think they do want him down there.
But will they want him enough to pay him long-term or will he be another franchise tag
because you don't know what he's going to be like coming off of a broken leg?
And does the social media team not want to be able to not be put into a jeopardizing position
with Jerry Jones either by putting him in there?
And now Jerry's like, oh, now we have to sign him, huh?
Oh, because you thought that would get a good retweet or two?
Is that what you thought?
He is not on contract as a Dallas Cowboy next season.
You only put players that are under contract with the Dallas Cowboys
in that goddamn video.
That's the alternate.
So this social media person, video editor, probably 23, 24 years old,
making, ah, dogecoin or two an hour.
You know, probably not making much, but you're in the NFL.
This will go on your resume.
This will be able to do this whole thing.
So now they have to make the decision, okay, do we put Dak in there
because that's what we want and what everybody thinks is going to happen,
or do we leave him out there because he's not under contract?
And here we are talking about it, so I guess they made the right decision.
Dallas Cowboys hype video was rather lit, just did not have Dak.
All the boys are here, Atone Diggs, COVID Cowboy. People are calling for COVID Cowboy's hype video was rather lit, just did not have that. All the boys are here at Tongue Dig's COVID Cowboy.
People are calling for COVID Cowboy merch.
How do we feel about this character that you will probably get sick of at some point,
but has endeared a lot of people with you and that cowboy hat?
I love the character.
I think it will carry on longer than my other characters, but you're right.
It won't go that much farther, I assume.
As far as merch, I don't think that should happen.
I saw a child yeah yeah
yeah there was a child tweeting videos well a mother of a child tweeting a video to us saying
the little kid wants covid cowboy merch and basically the way the video was constructed
it was almost like we're bad people if we don't give the kid COVID cowboy merch. And I immediately went to the group text and I said,
hey, COVID cowboy merch.
We're doing COVID cowboy merch,
which is potentially why I'll be a bad dad.
You know what I mean?
Great uncle, bad dad, you know?
Sure.
Great like friend of family.
Godfather.
Anything like that.
Good stuff like that.
Bad actual dad,
because I don't believe that's how you should parent.
I would assume that. But that's the type of thing. If I see a little kid doing something, I'm't believe that's how you should parent. I would assume that.
But that's the type of thing.
If I see a little kid doing something, I'm like, yeah, I've got to do it.
All right, just make this thing happy.
Let's just keep it moving or whatever.
The COVID Cowboy merch, the thing about it is if we invest time into that merch,
that character has to exist for a little bit of time.
How many seasons of Yellowstone are there, and how many have you watched?
Well, there's three, and I've watched all three three so that's that's what we're saying here so
the covet cowboy merch there might be like a tiger king digs next week right and i'm not saying
exactly tiger king i'm just saying there might be something new that comes along and captivates
stone digs and we might have cove cowboy rest in peace merch might be the next thing we see the uh
the kid and the two other people that would buy that merch,
maybe I'll just throw a pizza party at Chuck E. Cheese for all four of us,
and then we'll just move on with ourselves.
Don't do that.
That'd be awesome.
Are you going in with Spurs?
Yeah.
You got to get on that horse like that dude in Montana.
Oh, yeah.
What was his name?
Chris.
Yeah.
He might as well have called in and said, COVID Cowboy, fuck you.
Yeah, pretty much did. That's what he said. He said, get him on a horse out here. He wants as well have called in and said, COVID cowboy, fuck you. Yeah, pretty much did.
That's what he said.
He said, get him on a horse out here.
He wants to play cosplay.
He wants to play cowboy.
Get him on a horse.
Let's get you out there, Diggs.
I mean, put me on a horse, and I got to wheel in here every day.
We will make it accessible.
That's okay.
By the way, our office already is accessible.
It has to be due to regulations and code in here.
We already have that ready for you, dude.
You can sit here. Not up on this platform just roll right in right here right we're at ty schmidt and at
boston connor maybe add you to the toxic table forever i mean that's well might be a good idea
let's see how connor goes with aj dillon because it can't be too many of us yeah that's true
at boston connor the new england patriots aren't really in any conversations right now nothing's
happening and the conversation before we got on
air was if tom brady's the quarterback for the new england patriots this past season because there
was a tweet that got on the internet last night i forget who did it but it was a good conversation
starter which is by the way a good tweet okay he said something about people are comparing bill and
tom right now with the outcome of the 2020 nfl season and if Bill would have just been able to go choose where he wanted to coach,
like Tom was like,
let's say he wanted to go be the coach of the Packers or the chiefs.
He would have had the same amount of success.
This was a perfect destination for Tom to choose or whatever.
Okay.
And although that is a good conversation to be had,
and it makes sense.
As soon as you start to think about it,
just a little bit,
you're like,
no,
that's,
that is nowhere
near similar at all because the team that the buccaneers were were seven and nine okay that
team was not a winning culture down there it was not a winning organization down there Antonio
Brown was not down there Gronk was not down there Leonard Fournette was not down there you know why
they went there because Tom Brady went there all those players could have went to New England
because Bill Belichick was there they didn't because Bill Belichick was there. They didn't because Bill Belichick was there.
So that would definitely add to the case
that it's Tom more than it's Bill.
I'm not saying that,
but I'm saying the way New Englanders,
the Bill Belichick backers,
are trying to sell this to yourselves
is very interesting to me.
Now, I do know there's a lot of people in New England
that are happy for Tom.
And we're almost like Buccaneers fans now at this point. It feels like there's a lot of people in New England that are happy for Tom. And we're almost like Buccaneers fans now at this point.
It feels like there's a lot of you guys up there that are doing that.
But the people that are backing Bill,
it's very interesting the way the excuses are being crafted at this particular point.
Well, I mean, I'm happy for Brady again.
And they were 7-9 last year, but they lost, what, seven games by one score
because their quarterback threw 30 picks?
Which, by the way, is a difference that the quarterback made.
It's a direct difference that Tom Brady makes, making it more Tom than Bill.
But I understand the excuse you were trying to make there,
that the team was better than their record indicated,
but their record indicated the way the quarterback played.
So Tom coming in there is Tom more than Bill then at that particular point.
Yeah, absolutely perfect.
But even with Brady on the Patriots like he was throwing to nobody we went eight and oh two years ago started out you
know finished four and four because there was no offense no matter what and the only reason we won
half our games this year is because we ran the ball for 250 yards a game i mean brady wasn't
helping the patriots that much this year he had to get out but i mean there was one thing coming
out of new england yesterday and that's that the Patriots
are not serious suitors for Carson Wentz
because he is destined for the Indianapolis
Cup.
That's right.
Don't you try to divert this thing into...
That was big news. Huge news for the
Pats. Not serious
suitors.
Okay.
You know anything about this right here?
I know all about that.
Listen, if Carson Wentz comes to town, pump handle.
Okay, bolt action.
Whatever.
Whatever we want to do.
That's what this Colts team will become.
We will go to the goddamn saloon with Carson Wentz if we have to.
All right?
Especially at this point.
No Matthew Stafford.
He's gone. You know what I mean? He's out of there. Aaron Rod to, all right? Especially at this point. No Matthew Stafford. He's gone.
You know what I mean?
He's out of there.
Aaron Rodgers, I guess he's not tradable.
Shoot that dream out of the sky as well.
Dak Prescott, he's probably going to get franchise tag.
Russell Wilson's team wants him out of there,
but you think Pete Carroll wants him?
No way.
So who's left now, you start thinking?
Well, it does seem like that John Deere having duck hunting son of a bitch
who used to play good football is probably going to end up in Indianapolis.
And if Chris Ballard makes the decision, I trust Chris Ballard, okay?
Of course.
Chris Ballard makes decisions where when those ducks fly, they don't get shot.
You know what I mean?
They just continue to go.
That team, if they get one quarterback,
and if Carson Wentz can resemble a little bit of Andrew Luck,
and maybe even a little bit of what Carson Wentz used to look like,
the team will have success.
Will it be enough to go win a fucking Super Bowl?
I don't think so.
Probably not.
But if Carson Wentz comes back and does Frank Reich,
the entire baptized thing,
and Frank Reich bringing the whole team together
like DeForest Buckner was talking about,
I do believe Carson Wentz is inevitably going to be a Colt.
Now, at this point, it is something, a realization I have,
you know, just faced right in the mirror numerous times this week.
But I do believe right now Chris Ballard is telling them,
you are not going to take down the rest of our team.
Okay, we're already taking on a massive salary cap hit with this guy.
We're not giving you ones.
Okay, we're not doing that whole thing.
He is Goff, not Stafford.
And hopefully that's how this whole thing will pan out.
Well, and the best part about Carl Wentz is that no matter what,
he's going to one of the two teams in this room.
Nope.
He's either going to be a cold or he's going to be a bear.
So we'll have fodder for him all year.
All live.
At Viva Lozito sitting on the incredible couch,
the bears allegedly did not make any offers, says a bears blogger.
But who's giving the bears blogger that information?
Is it the same person that's giving everybody else the information?
Because everybody's painting bullshit out there at Ty Schmidt?
It does seem like Aaron Rodgers will be the Packers quarterback
for the time being for at least maybe forever.
Big Dog was quoted in TMZ as saying,
Aaron's never getting traded.
He is Green Bay.
Is that how you feel about this whole thing?
Yeah, absolutely.
I mean, well.
What about Russell Wilson if he's available?
Is that why you wore the Yankees hat?
No.
I didn't even think about that, COVID cowboy.
You're 100% right.
Baseball season is right around the corner.
That's why I put on the Yankees hat.
We talked about it.
If Russell Wilson is actually a man of God, he lets everyone know that he is.
He's a great guy and everything.
If that's the case, he needs to go down to Houston.
You see what's happening in Houston. it is just exploding at the scenes and i mean you know him and jack easterby it just seems
like that is a match made in heaven so that's what i think about russell roger isn't going anywhere
he's not going anywhere i just hope that now this offseason we actually do some stuff to help him
out which we we seem like we didn't do last year and by the way don't want to bury the offense for
the green bay packers because the offense for the Green Bay Packers
because the offense is unbelievable.
And defense made massive plays in moments,
but there's nothing wrong with adding, okay?
Look at the Chiefs.
Look at the Bucs.
Look at these teams that are at the top.
They add great players.
Hey, the more great players we can get in here, the better.
And by the way, there's enough balls to go around,
and we have enough plays to be made on defense
if we have to rotate this whole thing.
It's very obvious the teams that are trying to really make a run and who aren't especially in a modern day with the way everything works i'm also excited to
see uh which like which guys become cap casualties who are maybe like a little bit bigger names but
are going to command a cheaper contract because they really don't have that much money but i think
there are a couple guys out there that may, you know,
end up flocking to Green Bay, hopefully.
Oh, really?
You think this is potentially a ring-chasing situation in Green Bay with Aaron?
Why not?
The only issue is, will your front office make the plays to go get those guys
that are potentially ring-chasing because there are numerous teams
that are currently in the ring-chasing world?
Okay, add the Rams in there as well because I think they're potentially going to be looking for people to play cheap.
That's Los Angeles.
Very nice weather.
Tampa Bay, also going to be in this for the next couple.
Very nice weather, very warm.
You've got Tom Brady.
Kansas City Chiefs, they've got a guy they won.
I assume people are going to try to go there.
Aaron Rodgers has won, is a guy.
But in that entire pecking order of recruiting,
whenever it comes to front offices,
I'll be intrigued to hear a BA of Matt Light compete against McVay,
who allegedly is down in Mexico with Matthew Stafford,
as that whole thing was going on.
Andy Reid, Patrick Mahomes.
Basically what?
You've got Aaron Rodgers calling people saying,
hey, is there any way you want to come play?
That's what it seems like it would have to be at this point.
Yeah, ultimately it's tough.
I mean, we talked about it the other day.
If you're a free agent guy and you've been in the league for a
long time i don't think going to green bay and that weather and everything is something that's
necessarily desirable but i mean we'll see who knows i hey by the way let's say i'm i'm a wide
receiver it's really good at football i've already been paid give me aaron fucking rogers throw him yeah for sure plus they
got that defense coordinator that's ring chasing apparently got hit the nail on the head with that
hire yeah that's the thing is whenever you get a coach that's also ring chasing who's been at the
very bottom of his profession once he gets a chance to see the top that's gonna be a moment
watching him be happy yeah i'm excited for that don't know if we'll ever get it. I think he may get shitcanned
before that happens, but
if that doesn't happen, again, I don't
know anything about the guy. We'll see. I mean, his
resume indicates that he stinks,
but we'll see. I'm excited.
Joining us now, a man who got third
in defensive rookie of the year voting.
Absolute bullshit. Bullshit, yeah.
Absolute bullshit, and we don't like it. From the Baltimore Raven Ravens out of LSU, ladies and gentlemen, Patrick Quinton.
We don't like it.
We don't like it.
Not one bit.
What's up, guys?
Hey, defensive rookie of the year voting.
I like the fact.
Let me tell you what I like.
I like the fact that you were upset.
I like the fact that you voiced that you were upset.
Put it out into the world, letting people know,
like, okay, I'm going to remember this.
What are we doing this offseason
so that this type of thing never happens again?
For instance, Darius Leonard, his rookie year,
didn't even get voted into the Pro Bowl or anything like that.
He was an All-Pro.
He took it.
He literally put it on his shoulder.
Offseason, he came back All-Pro yet again, Pro Bowl, that whole thing. What are we doing this offseason he came back all pro yet again pro bowl that whole
thing what are we doing this offseason Patrick what are we changing is there any new workouts
we're gonna do any new film study are we just gonna come back and kill people next year Patrick
we're gonna kill people man it's our business this year everything I took personal this year so
um it's a lot of work to be done uh people took my tweet to offense and ran with it and stuff, you know.
And it was nothing against Chase.
Chase is a great player.
Chase earned it.
But I feel like, you know, my work wasn't showcased.
When I put in all the work, all the highlights and stuff that I put out,
you know, it wasn't showcased.
So everything is personal now.
I'm going to go down to Florida where my guy Mo at the House Athletes
and, you know
just get to work and go earn what i want i cannot wait to see the instagram footage if you put it
out on what you guys are doing down there at house of athlete that's amazing and everybody's running
their own race you know so like the interesting thing is everybody always thinks that somebody's
taking a shot somebody else it's like no i'm listen i respect what they're doing i just think
that maybe in my particular lane,
somebody should have been looking.
You had some highlights early.
Like week one, I think you forced a fumble or something.
Like you came out of the gate strong.
Was there any worry at all in the transition?
I've asked this to a lot of the rookies we've got to talk to,
and you guys are much more mature, I think, than previous rookie classes.
And I don't know why it is football-wise or whatever,
but was there any transition thought or hesitation
at all in your head, or did you always just
know you were going to be able to do well against
grown men?
I look at it as
another day to play football.
When I first came in,
they want to count. I was a little
timid and stuff, but once we
went through individual drills and all that, I kind of got the butterflies out in first play and team. I made a play.
So from that point on, I knew I could always be great in this league. And no, I started
off strong and I didn't finish strong. So that's stuff that I got to work on. I got
to come out like I did this year, come out strong, and then next year come out even stronger
and finish.
They called you Baby Ray. I assume you took that as a massive compliment,
especially in Baltimore.
And have you got a chance to talk to Ray Lewis?
Hell yeah.
Hell yeah.
That's a great compliment.
Ray is the greatest to do it.
So to be able to be called Baby Ray,
that means a lot of people have confidence in me
and that's stuff I need to uphold.
And I talked to Ray.
Ray gave me some pointers and stuff.
I got to get with him to get this film down
so I can match his tempo and match his level of intensity
that he sent to Baltimore Ravens.
Did you get introduced this year?
There's no fans.
Did you guys get introduced?
No, it was just over a phone call.
That was it.
No, no, I'm talking about onto the field.
There was no fans.
Not at all.
Oh, see.
Are you going to?
Hey, now Ray's intro into the field is like one of the greatest things
in the history of the NFL.
I saw the last ever one, actually.
I felt the heat from the flames 75 yards away during his.
He had pyro during his entrance.
Music, smoke.
They brought in grass because there was all the turf.
Will you be one of those?
Is that the type of intro we're going to have
whenever fans come back?
Yeah, I'm still thinking about what I'm going to do, but
I need to come with some heat. He had
a great one that people still do to this day
and Terrell Suggs had some nice
stuff too, so I got to
come with some heat this year. I'm going to have to
probably ask Justin Jefferson on some intros
I'm coming in with.
That LSU squad you guys had was pretty fucking good, huh?
Hell yeah.
You guys knew going into the season?
You guys knew going into the season
you guys were going to win it,
for sure?
We knew in the springtime
because one day defensive
dominate, the next day
the offense kill us.
So we already knew
we had a squad.
Fights broke out every day.
That's just how bad we was competing.
So we knew in the springtime we was going to be great.
Now we're the best that ever do it.
By the way, I was at that game.
I thought early, hey, first half,
thought we were potentially going to lose that thing.
Then Joey Burrow gets a broken rib, right?
Then he goes in at halftime and comes out on the other side.
Massive performance in that whole thing. Now you're playing against Joey Burrow twice a year or whatever you know what what
do you what what do you take away from practicing against him every single day that'll help you in
the NFL like such a stupid question but what is it like getting a chance to see him but not only
transfer into LSU do his thing become the player is now. He almost died this year like four times from different shots
that he took this year.
But what is it like to kind of be in the same division?
And you two will see each other as you go here,
and that's going to be a pretty cool little correlation going forward.
Yeah, Joe's my guy.
Joe, day one came in.
This was when D.Y. was still there, obviously.
You know, sprints was a big thing at LSU in the morning at 7 o'clock.
So we all always raced during sprints.
And Joe came out there day one, like, lighting us up,
like running step for step with us, sometimes beating us.
So we knew the type of guy Joe came in to be.
Obviously, everybody knows what he is now.
Just to be able to play him in the future.
You know, Joe's a great competitor and a great guy.
And like I did this year,
I'm going to try to get out for him,
hit him early, hit him often.
Keep coming at him.
That's the best way to take Joe off his game.
So, you know, I'm going to try to get at him
as much as I can.
He was running one time this year this way.
I think it was against Philadelphia.
And somebody hit him,
and his body stopped going.
And then his brain, his helmet,
and his head continued to go. It looked like, and his body stopped going. And then his brain, his helmet, and his head continued to go.
It looked like it left his body and then came back.
And then he was on the sideline, came back in like the next play
and let a touchdown score.
It was like, this dude is an idiot.
And I absolutely love everything about it.
Connor, what do you have?
Yeah, Pat, we had Patrick Ricard on the show a few weeks ago. Have you ever had to
take him on in practice?
Is he the biggest fullback you've ever
gone up against?
I actually haven't had to take
him on. Being on the strong side,
he usually blocks to the weak side.
Oh, he's scared of you over there?
Hey, he's scared of you?
I know Pat ain't scared
of me. Pat's got his body packed, so I know Pat ain't scared of me. Pat's body passed, so
I know he ain't scared at all.
I actually thought he was coming to block me
and my body just like froze, but I was like,
man, this is it.
Then we
whiffed each other and I ended up going into
the backfield or whatever, so
I haven't had to take him on yet, but I'm pretty sure
he's coming one day. This year, anybody
get you that you did not expect?
Because, you know, they talk about, like, the welcome to the NFL, whatever.
But was there any moments that you, maybe an offensive lineman
or tight end or something, somebody got you?
Or was this year you didn't have any of that?
Nick Boyle, I remember just trying to, like, run through him
on, like, a little gap scheme and whatever.
He just got a hold of me and just drove me and drove me and drove me.
And I'm sitting there trying to run, rip off everything.
Couldn't do it.
So that was probably my welcome to the NFL moment for sure.
He was holding?
He was holding, I assume.
Yeah, he was holding you?
He was holding me.
That's why he couldn't get off.
Next time it won't be a problem at all.
Diggs, what do you have?
Patrick, you just mentioned running sprints with
Devin White. I looked for the combine. You guys
both ran 4-4 at 240
pounds. What the fuck is in the water at LSU?
How's that happen, dude?
How has everybody gotten faster?
How has this happened?
Let me just show you what we do at
LSU, bro. It's a constant grind.
Only school.
The only school doing that.
Nah, well, me and D. White, every day we had
sprints we was racing.
At first, I came in
a little out of shape, and he always
took me under his wing and told me to get better and kept
pushing me. So from that point on,
it was always a competition.
Every day I went in, I tried to be better than him.
Obviously, he said he's Mark Ellis' shoot, so that's, I tried to be better than him. Obviously, he set his mark at LSU,
so that's what I tried to do.
I feel like I set a pretty good standard.
I feel like I could have done more,
but everything worked out.
Now I'm here, and now I'm trying to still compete
with Devin and still trying to outdo him and outdo what he do.
Rightfully so, had a great game in the Super Bowl,
and that's the type of stuff I'm trying to outdo.
He flies around, as do you.
You talked about coming in a little bit out of shape, basically,
and then turning around.
What do you think is the difference between the people that make it,
you know, and don't?
We've all, anybody that's ever been around football, college football,
NFL football, you see and meet people that are like, oh, my God,
that is one of the best athletes I've ever seen in my entire life.
And then for whatever reason, just don't make it.
It's like a shame.
Why do you think you made that switch from being out of shape?
Was it because Devin White or is it because you saw something, heard something?
Like, why do you think some people are able to make that switch and make it?
And then some people just can't ever get right almost.
You just got to have a competitor.
You just got to, if you don't want to wake up and be great every day and just go to work and do what you love,
you don't need to be doing what you're doing.
You need to find something else.
It's so simple.
It's just wake up, work, be better, and that's it.
I feel like, for the most part, that was always my mindset was to be better, to be great,
to do what I wanted to do and do what I love at a high standard.
I feel like Devin was a part of that.
Devin always took me under his wing, like I
said, and always wanted me to compete with
him. I feel like he was a part of it,
but for the most part, I know that in the back of
my mind, I want to be better than everybody.
When you woke up this morning, you
woke up and you said, I'm going to get better today. What are we doing
today? We running sprints today? Hey, we
lifting today? What are we doing today? We
running our head into a wall maybe a couple
times at practice? What are we doing today? We watching film today. a wall maybe a couple times at practice. What are we doing today?
We're watching film today. We're watching film.
In about two weeks, I'm about to hit these
weights hard, get out there,
try to come in stronger,
faster, just better, a better
all-around player. So today
is just film, but from now on,
these next two weeks, it's on.
Man, good luck out there.
Are we in your office right now? What is behind you
there? That thing seems to be pretty magnificent
there. Some kind of
mirror my mom bought.
I'm not
a house designer guy.
I don't need all that stuff in my house. She put that there.
Are you in your office right now?
It's like a little mini
thing right there by the door.
Ain't nothing special, man.
All right, I can't wait to see your next contract, man.
It's been awesome watching you this past year make the transition from college to the NFL.
Keep it going, brother.
Thanks for visiting.
Will do.
Appreciate y'all for having me.
Ladies and gentlemen, Patrick Quinn.
Hell yeah!
Let's watch it.
There it was.
Here we go.
Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, Super Bowl champion A.J.
What's going on, A.J.?
How you doing, pal?
Not much, man.
I'm excited for Kurt Angle.
Is he here yet?
See, you can't do that every single time.
Jesus.
Okay, that can't be a thing.
You know what I mean?
Can't.
Just ruin it.
I'm excited for the guest.
See, but we might have to stall a little bit longer.
You know, like, for instance, right now we are currently calling. So, you know, as soon as you go, you know, I'm pumped for insert name of guest that's supposed to be on immediately.
We are currently fidgeting around in the back.
So there's a potential chance for stall
so i was going to potentially use that as like a hey quick thoughts on big story of daytime but
every time you come in and go where's kurt that is that's an interesting start to the hour you
know what i mean i got it very interesting hey how about that bucks boat parade oh it looks lit
okay the gronkowski boat is gonna have a lot of content coming out of it.
There's a lot of phones on there.
Ain't that right, Cito?
Yeah, it's official.
Gronk has his shirt off now.
Gronk has taken it.
And by the way, better put on sunscreen down there.
Oh, yeah.
Okay, that boat party will have you fried if you are a white.
That is something.
Congrats to all of them down there.
I'll tell you what, that party, from looking at it from the outside,
made me want to go see if I could still turn a pun over or two for the next year
for the Buccaneers.
Boat party is something they need to continue to do.
Let's pivot away from the NFL and turn to, AJ,
a man who is an Olympic gold medalist,
won that with a broken freaking neck.
Multiple time WWF WWE champion.
A wrestling legend, both amateur wrestling and professional wrestling.
Ladies and gentlemen, from Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, Kurt Angle.
Thanks, guys.
Thanks for the introduction.
I appreciate it.
Hey, no problem at all. Congrats on the launch of the Kurt Angle Show, which can be followed at The Angle Pod.
When did you decide to launch a podcast? How's the show? Have you been enjoying it thus far?
Yeah, I've been enjoying it. I wanted to do a show that would tell my story about succeeding, overcoming adversity.
I mean, we're going through a rough time right now. This past year has been ridiculously horrible.
And I wanted to send a positive message to listeners
that they can overcome adversity.
They just have to hang in there and never give up.
Were the four I's a real part of you?
Like, to become an Olympic gold medalist, okay,
especially in wrestling.
We were talking about hockey earlier.
You grew up in Pittsburgh, go hockey time. You know
what I mean? You know Pittsburgh Penguins. Hockey
is one of those, what's that?
Oh, three eyes. That's on me.
Fourth one, impossible to be duplicated.
Kurt Angle, have a little bit of respect.
But whenever you're talking about hockey,
hockey's one of those sports like 5
a.m., they got to be on the ice skating,
okay? So you got to put your body through absolute torture to become a professional hockey player.
Wrestling, I think, is what the ultimate.
You got to put your body through torture to become the best, whether it's weight cutting,
conditioning, cardiovascular.
For you, you had broken your process of becoming the Olympic gold medalist.
Now, the professional wrestling thing also awesome.
But I would assume you talk a lot about the process of your amateur wrestling, uh, success
as well on that thing, Kurt. Yeah. So yeah, we, we are going to cover that as well. We started
with WrestleMania 19, but we're going to go back and review Olympics. Um, we, we just did a podcast
about my return, the WWE for my retirement.
We're going to continue to do different podcasts. But I am going to talk about my wrestling career, especially in the Olympics, because that was what defined me.
That was the moment in my life that defined who Kurt Angle was.
And, you know, I turned out to be an Olympic gold medalist.
And that's a huge
deal that's something i've been striving for since i was seven years old do you ever look back at the
the time that you were in amateur wrestling when you were winning your gold medal and everything
like i feel like you were surrounded by savages everywhere like what a golden era for amateur
wrestling people that are just iconic all around you is that like do you
ever look at that now and realize like well that was a pretty uh solid crew i would had around me
oh yeah yeah our team was incredible we we we actually um if they would have had team score
at the olympics we would have won uh we had i believe six medals three gold and two silver and a bronze and uh that that's huge out of 10 weight classes
that's that's ridiculously huge so uh you know being a part of that team bruce bomb gardner and
kenny monday and uh geez uh less gotchas uh there's so many great talent uh townsend sanders uh kendall cross the brands brothers it was
it was a great crew we had we had an all-star cast it was uh it was our our dream team for
wrestling you know amateur wrestling the interesting thing about it is it's the most
commitment whenever you think about the high school wrestling team and i remember just watching
them in sweats just
jogging down the street every single it just it never ended i'm like those dudes like hey i respect
what you i respect what you guys are doing it's the biggest commitment but then the only real
professional right is you go olympics so you hope you get sponsors but there's no real league that
happens so it was
professional wrestling and now MMA and mixed martial arts has kind of become the thing.
Was there ever that conversation whenever you were coming through the Olympics to potentially
get into fighting or was it always going to be professional wrestling at the time?
No, no. Uh, UFC approached me in 1997, I believe. And, you know, they offered me a 10-fight deal.
And the money wasn't that great back then.
I was going to get the highest deal, and it was $15,000 a fight.
And that, you know, $150,000 for 10 fights, that's, you know,
I mean, it's still good money, but it's not great money for, you know,
for putting your body on the line like that i mean
you're risking you know concussions and injuries and it's just just too much so um i i declined
the offer this is before dana white purchased the company uh so i got into the ufc didn't explode until after I got in WWE.
And that was around 2000, 2001 is when the UFC exploded.
I came to WWE in 99.
And being in there, I had a great rookie year, incredible rookie year, one of the best ever.
And I just felt like, you know, I didn't want to start over again.
I just got into a new career and you know i even talked to dana white when i left the wwe in 2006 and i asked him uh you know would he be
interested he flew me to las vegas uh he's a great guy he he treated me very well and uh very
respectful and he you know he told me that he wanted me to do one fight.
And he also wanted me to show up at every pay-per-view and kind of wave in the crowd and be there.
And it was a lucrative deal.
But I just signed with another company, a wrestling company, TNA, Impact Wrestling.
And when I asked Dana if I could do both,
because Impact Wrestling was part-time,
he said, you can't do both.
You have to do both.
And I said, oh, man, well, I'm going to have to pass this time.
So it never happened, and I'm glad it didn't,
because breaking my neck five times total total i don't mean to laugh
it's insane it's insane a lot of damage yeah and i didn't have any upper body strength i mean
you know if someone would have got me in a arm bar i there's no way i could fight it it's you
know they ripped my arm off i i literally couldn't do five push-ups at one time. It was that bad.
And so I
decided that wouldn't be the best option
for me. I better stick with the
entertainment stuff.
Hey, so how do you feel now?
You're barely 50 years old. You look
great. How do you feel after this life?
52.
You look amazing.
I'm guessing most 52-year-olds that you hang out with don't look anything what you look like.
So it's got to feel good.
But how do you feel physically day to day?
Well, I'm in the best shape of my life right now.
But I've been dieting very hard and trying to take care of myself.
My body's banged up.
I couldn't wrestle again.
If,
if anybody asked me to do it,
there's just no way I,
my body's so beat up right now.
And all I'm trying to do is rehabilitate it so that I'm healthy enough to
live a normal life.
And it's,
it's,
it's a little bit depressing.
I mean,
you know,
you get into a,
you know,
amateur wrestling, then you go pro wrestling and you wrestle a total of 40 depressing. I mean, you know, you, you get into a, uh, you know, amateur wrestling,
then you go pro wrestling and you wrestle a total of 40 years. Uh, you know,
you're going to do some damage on your body. And, you know,
sometimes I regret what I did, but I can't regret it.
I can't look back because I had wonderful careers.
Kurt in the professional wrestling business though,
you're known as being the guy who every single night was WrestleMania. You know like every time you went into the ring it was like hey this is main event
this is main event this is this is every single match it didn't matter if it was a house show
it didn't matter if it was a tv tape it didn't matter anything everybody says the reason why
you're the greatest technical wrestler of all time in professional wrestling it's because every
single match you were trying to up yourself.
It seemed like,
was there ever somebody that told you like,
Hey,
let's go ahead and slow it down.
Maybe we don't need to do this sprinting front flip for 20 yards on a
Wednesday night with,
you know,
a couple hundred thousand people watching.
Let's save it for maybe millions of people watching with it.
Was there ever that conversation throughout your professional wrestling career?
Because it was awesome to watch as a fan.
But I would assume for the people that were around you,
and it's like, hey, man, you are going to kill yourself in here
if you don't slow it down a little bit.
Did that ever come into play?
Yeah.
You know, Vince McMahon talked to me about it,
told me I need to slow down the house shows, the un-televised shows,
you know know kind of
pour it on for the pay-per-views and tvs but try to take it easy i don't i don't have any i i can't
do anything half-assed so i i everything has to be a completely 120 intense uh that that's just
the way i you know the way i am and you know you know, even Undertaker and Stone Cold Steve Austin and The Rock, Triple H, they told me, you need to slow down.
And I just, I couldn't, I couldn't do it.
I had to continue to be intense, technical.
I wanted to be the best wrestler, including pro wrestler on the planet.
Well, job well done.
I think it's what everybody says about your career there. So
congratulations on that. Now, I do believe I see you eating ostrich jerky. I think I follow along.
And also you're a big cereal advocate as well, which I also cereal advocate. This is maybe my
favorite photo that has graced the internet in some time here, Kurt. I really enjoy what you're
becoming here in retirement, boss.
Yeah, I'm taking it easy. I try not to have too many cheat days, but I gained a lot of weight
and I had to lose it. This pandemic has really annihilated my body. So I had to start taking
care of myself and eating better. And I've got on a good diet, high protein, low carb diet.
You spoke about your intensity and, you know, you just only know one way. Now, I know you've
been on a lot of movie sets, TV sets. How does that intensity transfer over there? And how do
the actors, how do they respond? I'm guessing that you may spook a few people.
Well, you know, when I'm when I'm shooting, yes. You know yes. But the movie thing and TV shows, there's a lot of sitting around.
So it's really hard to stay intense the whole time.
You're shooting a 12-hour day, and you're probably only going to shoot for 30 minutes total.
So the other 11 and a half is getting ready, getting prepared, studying the scripts and rehearsing and doing all that stuff.
So it's hard to be intense the whole time.
I mean, I don't want to look like an a-hole
and have myself fired up the whole 12 hours.
That would not fare well.
I probably wouldn't get another movie part.
Hey, your favorite memory from your time professional wrestling.
Obviously, we had Stone Cold on a couple weeks ago,
and we watched all his YouTube highlights, okay?
And in a lot of those highlights is a hilarious Kurt Angle, okay?
Like a very, very hilarious Kurt Angle.
And a hilarious Stone Cold.
Yeah, exactly.
It was incredible content though and i think watching a couple docs about you on the wwe network and
everything the thought of you being healed right as this olympic gold medalist face of america like
hey i just want to champion or a title for us and instead it's like you became this oh i'm better
than everybody type thing because you did
it was a brilliant character decision but through that character did you have any moments that you
you look back upon and you're like that was my favorite thing we did my first year was my favorite
year and it had a lot to do with uh working you know with the rock and Stone Cold, Undertaker. But our skits with Stone Cold were just priceless.
We had great chemistry, and I'm not afraid to make an ass out of myself.
So I was kind of like the idiot, following Stone Cold around.
And it worked out really well.
I don't think even Vince McMahon thought we'd have that kind of chemistry.
And the crazy thing is when we'd be shooting the pre-tapes, Vince would say, hey, if anybody laughs while we do this, you're fired.
Because people were laughing before the pre-tape was finished.
So, you know, he was like, no more laughing.
You can laugh afterward.
And we would do the pre-tape and everybody keep a straight face.
And afterward, everybody would be on the floor laughing.
It was just hilarious.
Some of the stuff that came out of Austin's mouth and my mouth, it wasn't scripted.
There was an idea of what we wanted to do.
And Vince just told us, explained to us what we wanted to do and Vince you know just told us explained to us what you know
what we wanted to talk about uh there wasn't any real scripts it was just back and forth content
and uh I just had incredible chemistry with Austin and McMahon yeah what I mean
that's irritating my promos and the fans would scream,
what, every time I'd pause.
That brings back bad memories.
What? No.
I would never do that again to you, Mr. Engel.
Ty, what do you have?
Kurt, you mentioned how much you enjoyed your first year.
How long did it take you to really adjust
from amateur wrestling to professional wrestling and like the
entertainment aspect uh of all of it well you know amazingly i picked it up very quickly i i only
trained i started in late 98 and uh i trained for about you, eight months and, you know, it wasn't a lot of intense training.
It was actually, you know, some sometimes it was.
Oh, boy.
Hold on, guys.
What the hell is this?
A photo of me up there.
Oh, boy.
Sorry about that, guys. i had a text coming it was
blocking my view all good please it was great it was being cold the words i say you were talking
about uh training but your first eight months you trained before your first match and it wasn't
always physically training i think you're gonna lead into maybe like the psychology or something
well you know what i still didn't learn the psychology. When I started on TV,
it was about a year after I started training. So I actually, yeah, it was about a year. So
I actually still didn't know how to work in the ring. I knew how to bump. I knew how to sell,
but I didn't know how to tell a story, the psychology of wrestling. So every time I'd wrestle, my opponent would lead me through the match. I'm not sure why
Vince McMahon rushed me through. I think there were a lot of injuries and he saw a lot of talent
in me. And so he decided to, you know, he told me, you know, we're going to put you out there.
You're either going to sink or swim.
And, you know, thank God I swam.
And, you know, so I didn't pick it up until after I won my first world title against The Rock.
He had no mercy in 2000. So about two years afterward, I started coming into my own and coming up with my own psychology and my own structure, my matches and stuff.
So it took a little while, but I learned on the job, which is crazy.
But, you know, sometimes you have to do that when you're called up.
Ronda Rousey is another example.
She had to do that as well.
And?
And?
Pat McPhee. I mean, mean i'm joking i was nowhere near i made a debut i made a debut in the ring kurt and i literally thought to myself if i'm in anywhere near the
conversation of kurt and ronda i feel good about it and if they're talking about me like some of
the others not good about it so i found somewhere in the middle there was good news connor
what do you have kurt were you always telling people you suck and that's why i just landed on
uh and worked so well in the wwe or when and how did you come up with that actually i didn't say
you suck a wrestler a superstar wwe superstar his name's, you know, whenever I would come out, my entrance music, you know,
it sounds like da-da, da-da.
You suck.
You suck.
Yeah.
The fans were, hold on, don't say that.
It's not right.
The fans were chanting Angle.
And then Edge came out one night when I was in the ring,
when I was a heel.
He said, they shouldn't chant Angle.
They should chant, you suck.
And that's when it started.
And the crazy thing is, the more mad I acted, the louder they got.
Oh, yeah.
It was awesome.
It was great, great storytelling.
My wife got into wrestling whenever we started,
we got together or whatever,
and you were coming out during that time for, like,
it was like a retirement run and then one last thing,
and you would always come out, and the entire crowd,
obviously, Channing, you sucked to you,
and you like
doing the whole thing i think it was like the perfect introduction to wrestling to my wife it
was like yeah they like this guy well why are they saying you suck well it's just like a thing
that's just kind of what wrestling is you know so kurt i doesn't make sense it doesn't make sense
i appreciate all of your sacrifices for our entertainment the kurt angle show a new podcast
you just launched can Can't wait to
download it and listen to it. I hope the rest of the world
does. We appreciate the hell out of you, Kurt.
Thanks, guys. Thanks for having
me on. I appreciate it. No problem.
Ladies and gentlemen, Kurt Angle.
Yeah!
Angle.
Angle.
Angle.
Angle. Yeahle. Angle.
Yeah, you suck much better.
Much, much, much better than that old thing.
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A lot of things happening in the sports world.
Where is Russell Wilson going?
Does he want out of Seattle, or is that just noise surrounding Russell Wilson?
Adrian Peterson allegedly wants to go down and play for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers,
celebrating with his Tom Brady jersey, saying,
Hey, listen, I still got it.
They rode me in Detroit.
Now, we didn't win a lot of games, but I had a lot of yards
and made a lot of plays alongside Matthew Stafford.
I still got it. Don't you worry about it. Just like everybody else down there, I've taken care of my body. I'm ready to get a ring. Go on and bring me in there,
which is interesting because Leonard Fournette is a free agent. Will he go get paid somewhere else,
or will he negotiate a deal to come back to the Buccaneers after what he did in the playoff,
and then what he did in the Super Bowl, and what he did for my parlay specifically on Sunday might warrant a massive contract from
somebody or a big contract from somebody. Will the Tampa Bay Buccaneers do that knowing that a lot of
people want to get to town like Adrian Peterson for instance. Now is Adrian Peterson the same guy
that was at the Minnesota Vikings MVP
rushing for 2,000 yards?
I don't think he is the exact same guy,
but is he still a very good running back in the NFL?
I think so.
And if he knows that he's potentially running for a ring,
look out APAD all day.
That sounds like something I could really get behind.
But will that happen?
Who knows?
There's a lot of other shit going on.
Dak Prescott was
kept out of the 2021 Cowboys hype video that they released on social media was that on purpose was
that negotiation was that leverage or was that a sign of things to come in Dallas he's not under
contract so I would assume social media video editor uh paid to get views and do things for the team.
Did not put him in there because he's not officially under contract.
And instead of getting the internet backlash that editor would have got,
instead they would have got backlash from Jerry Jones because Jerry Jones would have said,
is he under contract for next season?
And he would have said, no.
He said, well, why is he in the damn, what is it, hot video?
Is it lit? Is it turned up? And he would have said, no. He said, well, why is he in the damn, what is it, hot video?
Is it lit?
Is it turned up?
I don't get cramps in my hands writing checks,
but I do when I slap motherfuckers that put me in a bad position.
There was a no-win situation, but I do like the fact that NBC Sports Washington, D.C.,
home of the Washington football team,
was the ones that noticed that and stirred the pot a bit.
Deshaun Watson situation still happening.
Speaking of the Washington football team,
Taylor Heineke signs a two-year,
eight-point-some-million-dollar deal
with incentives on top of it
after a wild playoff performance
as the trigger man for the Washington football team.
There you go, Heineke.
Heineke played incredible football in a playoff game with all eyes on him.
Dwayne Haskins was cut.
Alex Smith was hurt.
Taylor Heineke stepped in and made plays.
He looked like Shane Falco on there, making throws, running around.
He seemed like he had his teammates playing inspired football.
Chase Young actually was mic'd up saying,
this dude makes big plays, that's what this guy does or something.
Heineke said, that's what I do or whatever.
Is this the perfect situation for Ron Rivera?
He has a quarterback that he's paying $4 million to
over the next couple years.
Is he going to be their starter in Washington?
Or will Washington be in the market for one of the other quarterbacks
with a potential Alex Smith still coming back to play for Washington?
The interesting thing between Taylor Heineke and his situation, though,
is nine years ago today, Jeremy Lin had one good half.
Okay?
He had one good half where he was electrifying.
He was getting the ball passed to him by teammates who didn't even know his name before the game started.
An injury got him into the lineup.
And what he did with it was go absolutely ham.
For the next month or so, he did it with the Knicks.
Then he automatically gets signed somewhere else to a big contract.
Houston, I believe he goes down to Houston. Then he's in
LA. Then he goes to, I think
overseas in place. Makes all this
money because of this one little
run that went crazy.
Congrats to Jeremy Lin and Linsanity.
I was a part of the
Linsane
fan posse.
The Linsane
fan posse. Instead of the The Linsane fan posse.
Yeah.
Instead of the, you get it.
But anyways, Taylor Heineke, same thing.
This guy had one game.
Now he gets eight point some million dollars.
It's like whenever you're practicing and you think to yourself,
okay, I make this shot, I get $8 million.
Okay, in practice, I make this throw, they're going to pay me $8 million.
That literally happened to Heineke and Jeremy Lin.
And now their lives are potentially changed forever.
That's why you always got to be ready so you don't have to get ready.
So when the moment comes, you're ready.
And that's what Taylor Heineke and Jeremy Lin taught us.
Nine years apart from each other.
Crazy.
Wow.
Jeremy Lin's still doing it.
Where at?
He's in the G League.
He's on the Santa Cruz Warriors.
He was on right before we came in here, actually.
NBA champion.
Yeah.
With the Toronto Raptors.
Yeah.
He had some time in Atlanta as well.
Yeah.
Okay.
Playing?
Journeyman.
Is he playing?
Yeah.
He's starting.
Yeah, he's a big locker room guy, too.
In the G League?
Uh-huh.
Okay, yeah, yeah.
Okay, in the G League he started.
Correct.
Okay, let's go back to all the other teams we talked about.
Jeremy Lin playing in the NBA?
Toronto, he got some minutes.
You know, here and there.
Yeah, he was gaining shots up.
He was a big, come on, boys.
I think he was at the end of every line.
No, listen, hey, I'm all about the glue guy.
You need a glue guy, a team guy.
But what I'm saying is when he had his opportunity,
when he had his moment, he had his moment he took
advantage of it he was on the cover of time magazine i mean he got his whole thing that's
what you got taylor heineke same story when he had his moment took advantage of it all eyes were on
a playoff football played probably the best football he's ever played in his life now he's
getting paid for it a few not as much as you know the starting top tier quarterbacks but eight point
some million dollars i would assume taylor heineke had no idea that was potentially in the very near future in football.
What, week 13, week 14 of the NFL season this past year?
And all of a sudden, he's a multi-million dollar guy.
Yeah, a little bit better than his backup XFL contract, I would assume.
He's probably making like $45K not too long ago.
No, hold on.
They had slotted contracts
in that xfl didn't they because the quarterbacks the starting quarterbacks were slotted above
everyone they had something in every other position heineke though would have been in
there potentially with like starting punter with the way the xfl's contract really i think if
you're back up quarter unless they paid they paid some people right they paid uh cardale
a million i thought and who else they paid uh andre jones there it is yeah for the dallas squad stoops stoops got
paid he's actually an investor i think right then they give a percentage of the of the league or
whatever still looking well i believe he is owed money that percentage unfortunately is the rock
pay it no so whenever you buy a t uh operation organization that debt you assume the debt yeah
so duane johnson's paying mike stoops right now so terry mana is paying mike stoops right now
but did they file bankruptcy because once you file bankruptcy those people are owed but if you're
bought in the bankruptcy process do you pick up the i think it went to auction before true bankruptcy
right was that the deal yeah it like, do you assume the debt?
I would assume that you assume the company and the debt.
I'm not 100% certain, but The Rock works harder than anybody,
so he knew that was going to happen.
Yeah, I mean, he's got Stoops' share just sitting in one of his bedrooms.
You can just hand to him.
The Rock?
Yeah.
At this point, I think so.
In just one of his gyms that he has in what seems to be every country in the world,
he has more money than what is probably owed to Stoops through that XFL debt.
Assumed all debt aside from Oliver Luck's contract.
Yeah, that was being handled in litigation somewhere else.
That's, what, $25 million or something?
Dwayne Johnson's like, I ain't smelling what that's.
There ain't none of that going on.
That's all you, Vince.
There was a lot of overreaction, obviously, after the Super Bowl.
Normally, we get a chance to get to it.
I put a hashtag out there.
Please overreact and use hashtag Pat.
I don't want to overreact, but.
And we want to hear it from everybody.
We got some great ones.
Evan Fox, he picked them out.
Let's go through the Twitterverse overreacting to what happened on Sunday, Evan Fox.
Pat, I don't want to overreact, but.
Okay, that's interesting because I forgot that it was want to.
I thought it was wanna.
You know, hashtag, Pat, I don't wanna overreact, but...
And I'm just now seeing in the graphic that we had made,
because this is our only segment, it is want to.
And that's very interesting that Twitter made both available to me,
the person that created the hashtag, and I chose the wrong one.
I feel like that is a potential flaw in the Twitterverse that does happen.
That is interesting.
Yeah.
It happened yesterday with the PMS Gaming Show.
PMS Big Gaming Show.
Yeah, we had to change it, though, remember?
Because we are a big gaming show.
By the way, we're giving away so many chairs.
Congrats to everybody that won.
I can't wait to get them out of here.
Let's get to a couple, Foxy. Yes, please. Hashtag Pat, I can't wait to get them out of here let's get to a couple
foxy yes please um hashtag pat i don't want to overreact but any qualified qb rogers mahomes
stafford mayfield could have won or came close to a super bowl with the team the bucks built says
alex olsen at ao rainmaker now this is classic sports talk question here. If any good quarterback played
quarterback for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, would the Tampa Bay Buccaneers win a Super Bowl? That's
what they would have asked on the bottom. That would have been the lower third of everything
like that. And the interesting thing about that is, so you're saying Jameis Winston is not a good
quarterback then. You're saying he's bad quarterback because Jameis Winston was there
just a year beforehand and put up similar numbers, everything except for the interceptions,
and they did not win at all.
Now, with the team that they assembled,
was it because Tom Brady was there that the team was assembled?
And then do you just plug and place anybody else and have the same outcome?
I don't think so, especially with gronk and antonio
brown who are two of the game's best who had a falling out or were out of the league for a little
bit so i i think you have to give tom brady the credit where the credit is due not only for how
he performed this year which by the way 40 touchdowns 12 interceptions yeah whoa incredible
fucking stats this year had more deep balls i think he's ever thrown in his entire life.
There was a narrative that he couldn't throw the deep ball anymore.
It was his first year in a new offense,
and they weren't allowed to eat lunch together.
I mean, he had a hell of a fucking year.
I think it's time to give the guy flowers.
Even if you hate him, you have to give him flowers.
And if you say it's for the team, like a lot of people said,
he helped create the team.
He was the team.
So it's like, how can you not give him credit for all of those things?
If you're going to give Bill Belichick the credit for being head coach and gm
only when it fits the right narrative right so it only whenever the team is winning and it's good
it's they remember this guy's a head coach and the gm then when they're bad it's like well they have
a bad roster or whatever it's like well are we not going to continue to talk about how there's one
person that is the head coach and the general manager you have to do this for tom he's a great player but also he was a big
factor in why great players came to tampa so you also have to add that in as a benefit for tom
over anybody else in my particular opinion digs yeah in that list of quarterbacks he listed
obviously aaron and patrick mahomes are going gonna have similar if not more success with that team stafford maybe the same but bake putting
baker mayfield in that list of four quarterbacks is a fucking wild move i don't mind that move
i liked it a lot actually because he was strictly for you uh we're getting video here out of tampa
bay who is currently holding a boat parade in the river downtown they're all on
boats nice we're supposed to have Scotty Miller on the show today actually but it was scheduled
during the boat and although that would have been a great call I want Scoot to enjoy the shit out of
himself yeah there's no reason to be worrying about doing phone calls or conversations or
holding words while you're out there I guess everybody's in a boat and Tom Brady just arrived
in his new two million million Super Bowl boat.
Wow. So imagine that moment, by the way.
You got AQ probably on a pontoon.
AQ's probably out there on a pontoon.
And Tom Brady showed up in a $2 million boat with police escorting him down.
Jeez.
I mean, this is.
Hey, AQ, get your little fucking pontoon out of the way.
Okay?
Go ahead.
Maybe strap yours onto the back of this thing, AQ.
Ride the rip of our wave here.
That's awesome.
This is what Tampa should do, though.
Tampa can do this.
Nobody else can do this.
Now, granted, what's going to happen?
People are just going to line the river?
Or are they expecting everybody to be in the buildings kind of looking down out there?
It looks like they're lining it right there.
Apparently the Gronk boat is crazy right now.
Very lit.
Oh, I would assume so.
That Gronkowski family,
I do not believe
they're fake either.
I think they do act
like that all the time.
Yes, for sure.
I do believe that is
an all the time thing.
You know,
Ronald Jones said
Gronk was up there
doing his thing.
Yep.
So, you know.
And you just know
what that means.
Yeah, right.
Anytime that is a
Boston Connor was up there doing
his thing it's like okay what he's sawing somebody down like what is he screaming at somebody screaming
what's he doing is he being a scumbag up there i hope not by the way i don't i hope people don't
think like that i don't think like that but i'm just saying whenever somebody says oh uh gronk
was up there doing his thing everybody's like oh we kind of know what that is yeah like he was just
dancing drunk and screaming and having the time of his life up there.
We saw it at the 2019 Super Bowl party.
He had his own.
He had Rick Ross.
He was on stage.
He was twerking.
He was doing everything.
We know what that is.
I know he's not allowed to hold the trophy anymore, but imagine if he hadn't just sunk
to the bottom of whatever water that is.
Oh, yeah, because they just left the dent in the one Lombardi, right, that he hit the
baseball for a medal minute.
Well, they didn't just leave it.
They couldn't get it out.
There's nothing they could do.
You got to get it down the road.
You got to plunge it on that thing.
You got to get that thing out there.
It's different with the Lombardi.
No, no, you just put a plunger out there and just pull it out.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's easy.
That's easy.
I've pulled out dents bigger than that before.
Much bigger than that before.
What was that, Nick?
You were going to say something?
I was just very curious to see what body of water Zito thought that was.
The boats in?
Golf of Mexico.
Okay.
That is near Tampa, but that is not what they're in.
I don't think the Gulf of Mexico runs through the city.
I do believe it's a river.
It's a canal.
A canal is what?
Just a smaller river?
A man-made river
A smaller river
I was allegedly found in a canal
Allegedly
It is pretty nasty
But it led to a river
It led to a river
Allegedly
You know what I'm talking about
This river though
What is the river they're on?
I saw it in the announcement
I did too
Hillsborough River
It's the Hillsborough River
Oh, Pittsburgh
No, not Pittsburgh.
That one runs from Hillsborough County over there in Tampa,
right down to the Gulf, actually.
It feeds into the Gulf, actually.
Shout out to Bucs for doing their parade in Pittsburgh.
It's pretty warm over there.
Hey, by the way, the Buccos in Pittsburgh ain't never going to have a fucking parade
because that family that owns the team stinks.
What's their name?
The Nuttings?
Mm-hmm.
They stink.
Stink. Pittsburgh Pirates suck. Stink. name? The Nuttings? Mm-hmm. They stink. Stink.
Pittsburgh Pirates suck.
Stink.
They'll come around.
Huh?
They'll come around.
They need a Tom Brady to fly into town and redraft their entire squad.
Exactly.
Bring in Trout.
No, you know what?
We need Barry Bonds back.
Ooh.
That's right.
Get Mark McGuire out of that hitting coach fucking position he has.
Come on back.
Let's just get the old school bombers.
Bring in Giambi.
No testing.
Let our team play.
Let the boys play.
Let them play.
Let them take PEDs.
Let's go to Robin in New York City.
What's going on, Robin?
Traffic's crazy.
Where are we, you think?
It's a helicopter.
This is New York City there.
Hey, New York, by the way, 10% of stadiums and sports venues are allowed to let capacity.
Jesus.
Saw that with restaurants, too, over there.
What's that?
I think 25% in restaurants as well.
I mean, Robin, what's going on, Robin?
Robin!
Yo, what's good, Pat?
Hey, how you doing, man?
What do you want to talk about, Bo?
Hey, you know, as a Jets fan, life sucks, you know?
So you know what would make me happy?
If you put Nick Casseri on one of those old big-ass chokeholds,
I'd tell him to trade Deshaun right now.
Oh, you want me to?
Oh!
I didn't lock it in, by the way.
I didn't cinch it in.
I kind of got lazy on the reach there.
That's on me.
He didn't get put out.
Deshaun to the Jets would be fantastic.
I mean, that would be absolutely fantastic for Jets fans.
But right now, the interesting story is the Texans aren't trading him.
They say he is not available for trade.
Nick Casario came out in Coach Dave's press conference on a Zoom call
and said, we are not interested in trading the player.
We are not interested in trading the player.
Now, it's alleged Josh McCown is the head coach coach in waiting i guess that's what people just understand so coach dave is kind of just uh
mentoring josh mccown into becoming the head coach down there we've had josh mccown on this show
great hair great dude great conversation oh yeah i don't even know if he knows what he's signing up
for down there at the houston texas organization as does anybody but their president just resigned
today after 20 some years in the building.
He doesn't like what's going on.
He wanted to resign earlier in the year,
but they asked him to maintain so that it didn't look as bad for the Houston Texans.
They look bad down there.
Ain't nobody going to want to play down there.
They're dead.
Sell the team.
Sell the team.
Sell the team.
Sell them.
Sell the team.
Why don't Jets fans realize that now that Gase is gone,
Darnold is going to be Joe Montana?
That is something to think about whenever you think about Sam Darnold
potentially becoming an Indianapolis Colt or a Chicago Bear
or a Las Vegas Raider or any Broncos,
any team that is potentially in the quarterback market at this point.
The thing about Darnold is if you look hey the direct comparison direct comparison
Ryan Tannehill had Adam Gase he stunk bad terrible not good at football no got a contract
won some games not top tier quarterback nowhere near it this guy is gonna fizzle out this was not the
right move for a dog he goes to Tennessee Mariota gets benched Ryan Tannehill comes in he out from
underneath the Adam Gase umbrella gets in there with Vrabel you know one of the guys they have a
good offense uh that that Arthur Smith is running down there and and he just goes. He becomes stud, $100 million quarterback.
Talking about this guy is maybe the most efficient quarterback in the NFL
when you start looking at the stats,
and obviously Derrick Henry helps that entire thing.
The Dolphins didn't have that.
But the direct comparison to Ryan Tannehill,
getting out from underneath the Adam Gase umbrella
and really playing great football, why not Sam Darnold?
Why not Sam Darnold? umbrella in really playing great football why not sam darnold why not sam darnold so people
were asking you know hypotheticals for a lot of different teams would you rather sam darnold or
carson wentz i think for the colts i i do believe you potentially see with that contract that sam
darnold has which is still a rookie contract let's see if this guy's got it or not and we we save his life out of uh new york he
hated it there you know get him something new out here in indy he's slinging it got a good offensive
line you can redo his deal now it's like a whole new thing but carson wentz that money's already
coming that was a deal that was already done beforehand so that's why i think you have to
think about maybe sam darnold over carson wentz i'm not gm but maybe maybe that's the right decision with the contract in tow that you're thinking
about yeah so he's due to make nine million his fourth year in the league but he was a first round
pick so if you trade for a player can you pick up his fifth year option if he wasn't if you didn't
draft him do you have any idea about and when do you have to pick the fifth year option in his
fourth year i believe or is it before the fourth year it's before the fourth year i think you have to pick the fifth year option because the player has to know whether
or not they're going into their free agency year mitch that's what happened yeah yeah it was after
the third week or something third week if i remember correctly whatever the case we should
be able to do it because we just assume as if we we had him from jump street whenever you trade him
or whatever and gaze got rid of you knowarnold's only weapon, Bobby Anderson.
You know, he let him go.
Hey, that Gase guy.
He's wild.
It's wild that he's had a gig or three.
You know what I mean?
At this point, it is not making much sense to me.
His teams stink.
Always.
Always stink.
I mean, and he's going to get another job.
He's going to get probably a pretty good job next, which is just wild.
But that's the way it goes.
What's that, Gumpy?
There's just no time off in between his jobs either.
Like, lots of coaches, they're dog shit.
You'll see him disappear for a year or two.
He just went straight from the Dolphins to the Jets,
and now he's going to go somewhere else.
Where's he going to go?
Is there any rumors of where he's going to end up at?
Patriots quarterback coach for a long time.
That was a rumor.
So that's not that big of a gig, though, I guess.
Isn't Bill O'Brien
doing Bama? Yeah, he's going to
Bama. Bill O'Brien and
Doug Marone are currently at Bama. Yes.
Bill O'Brien
moves out of Houston,
goes right down there in Alabama.
Roll Tide, let's go, boys.
Let's go ahead and get a win, huh?
We were calling him Billy O'Stooges.
We might be wrong.
Billy O'Blue, it seems like. Still.
No, no, no.
We don't know.
We were.
I mean, we do not know.
We were wrong.
I would like to let it be known that I was yelled at whenever I continued to go after
Alberto Riveron.
Whenever I continued to go after Alberto Riveron, okay,
I was informed through a medium from Alberto Riveron in our friend.
Mike Pereira.
Mike Pereira.
I almost called it Carrera.
That would have been very rude because Pereira is an electric factory.
But anyways, he told me like, hey,
they're only allowed to overturn calls that are like egregious they're living by a different code so whenever i was going after our alberto river on
this entire time about the reversal of uh pass interference and ruining the rule basically which
i thought was a good rule i thought you should be able to challenge pass interference because it's
so damn big and i was attacking alberto river i'm like hey it's not the concept it was the execution
okay we need somebody else to be in there let's get the xbox controller in there like the xfl has
let's talk about it and i was like alberto river on is an absolute stooge then perera comes in and
goes like hey alberto river on is playing by a different set of rules than everybody so like
maybe you need to pipe down on the guy i'm like okay as I've learned new information, I would like to potentially maybe take the foot off the gas pedal on Alberto Rivero.
Okay, now that I've learned more.
With Billy O'Brien, I think we kind of have to do the same thing.
You know what I mean?
Like, what if the J.J. Watt fight, that practice, allegedly, which who knows if we'll ever get the real answer out of.
I assume at some point as people are leaving, they will talk about what happened there.
But what if the fight was actually with Bill O'Brien
about what was going on at the organization,
and J.J. Watt was like, I can't talk about it
because it wasn't about Bill O'Brien.
It was actually about the fucking owner of the team.
What if there was that situation,
and we were just blaming Billy O. Stooge for this entire thing?
What if the DeAndre Hopkins fourth-round pick, because Billy O. Stooge for this entire thing? What if the DeAndre Hopkins fourth-round pick,
because Billy O. Stooge was also the GM and everything,
is like, this guy's an absolute idiot.
What if it wasn't him, though?
What if it was, and they're forcing him to do that,
and we're attacking this guy, like this guy,
and he's probably watching it, and he's like,
well, somebody fucking tell McAfee that this is not how this is going,
much like Alberto Riveron did.
Maybe we were wrong about Bill Bryant, and I would like to, how this is going, much like Alberto Riveron did. Maybe we were wrong about Bill Brunt, and I would like to,
at this particular point, now that more information has been
continuing to come out about how big of a clusterfuck
the Texans organization is, maybe we don't call him Billy O'Stugan.
I agree.
I agree.
You know?
Maybe he got railroaded in this particular situation.
It certainly sounds that way.
Maybe this chaplain he knew in New England came down to Houston houston all of a sudden start bossing him around he's like
this fucking guy we've seen him handle business before like he's got he used to be coming and
doing things maybe bill o'brien has been misrepresented in this entire situation now
that we're learning that the houston texans organization seems to be one massive dumpster fire at the case that I'm not
sure at the current situation I'm not sure Casario can get in there with a big enough fire hose
and put everything out I don't know if coach Dave with all his years of experience are going to be
able to turn that thing around it seems like that is a massive problem will it be able to be fixed
maybe it's the NFL some great players will come through maybe they'll be able to get a good team and they'll be able to get going and come through. Maybe they'll be able to get a good team,
and they'll be able to get going and everything like that.
Maybe they'll be able to do that.
But at the time, I think we have to potentially think about
not judging Bill O'Brien as harshly,
now that we know that that entire place was potentially
just completely fucked up from the beginning.
Especially when he's going to have a national championship ring on his finger
this time next year.
We're never going to know.
We're never going to know.
I think we will.
He'll come out.
I think people will start coming out more and more.
He should have already done it then.
Well, I think.
No trade clause.
No competitor.
Or non-disclosure.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
There's a lot of nons in there whenever you decide to leave somewhere.
Force majeure.
Oh, that's a problem.
Force majeure has changed mightily because of Uncle COVID.
Which, by the way, I think is just done, right?
Is COVID done?
Well, if New York's opening back up.
Texas Tech was rocking last night.
Oh, by the way, let's go, West Virginia.
Go, Mountaineers.
Mountaineers are a good team this year.
Playing much different basketball than normally.
Normally, it's Press Virginia. Coach Huggins
has his team do four-court press
all the time. And whenever he was
recruiting players and everything like that, he was looking like,
hey, what players can play defense for the
entire court? Who has good position?
I actually heard him speak at
we had a fall something.
It was whenever he first got the head coaching
job. And we had just had Beeline,
right? So we just had Beeline.
I guess maybe Dockage was potentially a head coach for a second or two.
And then Huggins came in, or maybe that was even beforehand.
But I was there whenever Huggins spoke, basically,
to a lot of the boosters that were there for the football banquet
that we were at or whatever.
And he basically made fun of everybody on the team's defensive positioning.
Like, he doesn't really know how on the team's defensive positioning.
He doesn't really know how to get into a defensive stance.
He's not a bad player.
He also does not know how to get into a defensive stance.
So it was almost like he came in and his big thing was like,
hey, we are going to lock this thing down, smack the court,
full court, press Virginia, here we go.
And whenever he got into March Madness in a tournament, by the way,
it had a lot of success because teams, if you're not used to playing against it, you don't have big, it's, it gets after you. So hugs was always an animal in the tournament. Like West Virginia was always going to have a presence.
It felt like as a West Virginia, you know, basketball fan, it was like, okay, we are going
to have a team in March. So we would lose games during the regular season. It was like, who cares?
We get in a tournament, hugs team. team will be able to do some things.
Much different basketball this year out of this team.
And I don't know if this has been the last couple years.
Maybe I missed it.
He's got athletes playing right now. And Huggs, and they play their dogs on defense.
And they get going.
West Virginia might have a sleeper.
Now, Baylor is very fucking good, obviously.
And Gonzaga is very good.
But that West Virginia team, if Huggs just drops that press in every once in a while, too,
whenever he gets into the tourney, I mean, they could be a problem.
And I'm pumped to ride that wave and act as if, you know,
I'm like the biggest West Virginia basketball fan of all time.
I'm not, but I like seeing them win.
You love watching games.
Beating Texas Tech last night was awesome.
And their coach having an epic kick out
where in the middle of yelling and ranting
at referees, while crowd
is cheering him on, he takes a
flop basically on the court.
Then he goes and gives coach Huggs a fist
bump and then he leaves and exits
stage left. It was awesome,
Coach Beard. But I'm excited
for West Virginia basketball team. Big win last night.
That was a lock, by the way.
Everybody knew what was going to happen.
Six and a half point dogs.
They led from start to finish.
They got shooters, too.
Yeah, we got a guy.
Our guy got hurt.
Culver or whatever.
Not hurt.
Foul trouble.
Foul trouble, yeah.
Yeah, he was out.
Didn't even phase him.
They kept rolling.
Damn.
Hey, let's go.
Boys look good.
They do look good out there.
That is the next thing, too.
March Madness.
Cool. Here we go. It's here. It's here, dude. Yeah, we won't be able to see it. They do look good out there. That is the next thing, too. March Madness. Cool.
Here we go.
It's here, dude.
Yeah, we won't be able to see it.
This chair's fucking with me.
You know why?
Because all these other chairs came in.
Yeah.
It's like Carson Wentz's chairs.
Yeah.
It's the Carson Wentz's chairs right here.
Losing its confidence.
A couple of Jalens out there, and all of a sudden, this thing just doesn't even know
how to sit anymore.
Love God.
Let's go to Jonah in Ohio.
What's going on, Jonah?
What's up? What's up?
Hey, second time caller. I called
last week and my server's cut out.
How are we on this beautiful Wednesday?
Jonah, Bible name.
Remember? Had the full conversation. You never answered.
Great to chat with you, Jonah. How you doing?
Good, man. Hey, actually
my name, it is in the Bible
but my parents got it from the famous
movie Sleepless in seattle
you got mail different movie yeah a couple different movies really yeah but yeah they
were screaming around for the boy jonah jonah and my mom was hot to sleep and she sprouted up and
she was like that's the name and i was in her belly and i was like oh shit all right sounds
good okay well hey pumped to hear about that great movie movie, by the way. It was a great movie.
I've never seen it, neither has Zito, obviously.
I get those reviews. What do you want to talk
about, Jonah? Hey, I just
wanted to see if you got the chance to watch
the Tiger documentary on HBO.
Great question, Jonah. Appreciate that.
I assume you have at this point.
I have as well. I didn't want to watch
the Tiger Woods documentary because I heard
Tiger Woods' people did not like it.
Okay?
So if Tiger Woods was like, I'm very against this.
And then the previews you were seeing just like scandalous.
The opening scene is him walking in handcuffed, barefoot after the whole situation.
So I thought it was going to be an expose.
I didn't really want to watch it because like, you know, I just, I don't want to want to like okay if we're just going to show all
the bad we also need to talk about how this guy completely transformed the sport of golf and just
oh you know he got people interested in golf that would never in a million years be interested in
golf and i don't want to say this and sound like it's a smack in the mouth to anybody in golf but
i think viewing as somebody from a working class, I think John Daly and Tiger Woods were probably the two, I think,
that reached the most amount of people to come into the sport of golf.
And there will probably be others that I assume,
younger people that have done that and everything like that.
But back in the day, John Daly, whenever he showed up,
everybody was like, oh, we got a drunk playing for us.
Like, this is our guy.
You know what I mean?
A blue-collar golfer from a blue- blue collar town doesn't know what he's lost doesn't know what he's found but i thought
there was a chance that that entire thing was just going to be a hit piece on tiger so i didn't want
to watch it i'm like i'm not doing it i just like to i'll just bebop through that and just kind of
keep it moving i know he fucked up okay they're him golf again, so it couldn't have been too,
I mean, it's definitely terrible,
but it couldn't have been, you know,
cancellation terrible,
so I don't want to just see a documentary series
burying a guy for everything he's ever done bad.
I just don't want to do that.
Then Nick watch it,
because that is something I think Nick would be intrigued
to kind of see or whatever.
I love the truth.
Champion for the truth.
Got to get it out there and let everyone know.
Yeah, and the issue with the truth is people that pick and choose to tell which truths to tell
that is the narrative thing but you're 100 right you are a no stone left unturned type guy and i
hear both sides as soon as you watched it i don't know if you texted me or called me or told me in
the office i forget exactly what it was but it was the next time we communicated, you said, you got to watch it. And I said, uh, I said, I'm not watching that bullshit or whatever.
And you said, no tigers. People should have wanted people to watch this. Like tigers people. By the
end of it, I watched it. I like, Oh, I tears in my eyes. My, my wife, right. Who should probably
hate everything that he did or whatever. By the end, whenever he was talking about his dad and
the whole thing, she was like, had tears in her eyes it is an incredible documentary it is a very
good documentary on tiger woods i know he necessarily couldn't come out and promote it
because it does dabble into the things that he fucked up which he did fuck up but then whenever
you watch the story you're like probably inevitable that he was gonna fuck up if you really think
about it at some point but i liked it i i really did enjoy it and i'm a massive tiger woods fan i'm a big like
hey the greats are great like i you know steve jobs terrible dad terrible but if he was a good
dad would we have what we have because would anybody else been able to been a big enough
asshole to force everybody to do what they had to do to create this it's like all those good and
bad things that come with the people that are way the fuck up there and the tiger woods one was very
interesting to watch i think it was a very fair acknowledgement of his fuck-ups but it wasn't so
much a burial it was like okay this guy uh brought some things upon himself but then he went and dug
himself back out the interesting thing the interesting thing about that doc they chose to promote it as it was going to be
an expose yeah which is a sorry telling of the times that we currently live yeah hey this will
get people to watch not this incredible story about this kid who was literally golfing since
he was an infant like this dude was watching golf shots and hitting go he was on tv as like a two-year-old or something like that
and i had no idea about any of that you're wiping the ball hammering hammering the ball whenever he
it was like oh so everybody knew but the golf community was such like a niche community
that nobody really heard about it's like sydney crosby in the hockey whenever sydney crosby was
in high school they were talking like oh this guy is the next leBron James. I actually watched a video they made for the internet
where he was walking around Los Angeles,
and there was somebody asking, do you know who Sidney Crosby is,
who's supposed to be the next greatest hockey player of all time?
And people said no, and Sidney was standing right next to them.
They had no fucking idea because hockey was its own little thing.
Golf was kind of its own little thing for a long time.
And then whenever he came in,
I didn't
know that i should have known since he was like three years old that he was going to be the
greatest of all time kind of reliving his entire life for those of us that didn't see it i thought
was pretty it was a good fucking documentary and you mentioned how you know tiger woods and john
daly and there'll be young guys who will probably do that too it's going to be tiger woods's son
charlie and john daly's son john why little john and charlie yeah charlie's
fucking unbelievable so good and he stole the show there that weekend because of the shots he was
shaping and making it was he was shooting better than his father in a lot of different holes or
whatever and his dad did have to get surgery after that all right so his dad was literally
probably in agonizing pain while just toughing it out because i can't take this moment away from
charlie here charlie imagine how no but i'm just saying imagine if he would have dropped out of that tournament yeah
which he would have done by the way if it was any other tournament like he has in the past
instead he was like all right i gotta go rip my back to shreds tomorrow because charlie is
balling out right now and there were some moments that came out of that thing where you're like oh
that's going to be the next one.
It kind of covered up.
Lil Jon, he hits the ball like 300 yards.
He bombs the ball.
He's potentially going to go in there.
Dustin Johnson, obviously very good.
Whenever you're talking about that person or entity that can bring in the most amount of people to be be you know intrigued by what they're doing
maybe charlie is the next one and you got the whole internet right all the heroes on the internet
going stop tweeting about how good he is the amount of pressure this kid is gonna have you're
gonna ruin it it's like he's golfing on television with his fucking father named tiger woods okay he
knows there's pressure we all know there's pressure okay this is gonna be going to be something that's going to just going to happen by the way.
Congrats to him. He doesn't have the pressure of having to get his family out of a bad situation
or debt or something like that. He has the pressure of having to live up to how great his
father was, but nobody with a real brain thinks about like, Oh, he's going to be better than his
dad. But we all do think like, there's a chance this kid could be better than his dad.
And that's a good thing to talk about.
But those people on the internet were like, you're putting pressure on him.
This is unfair.
What type of fucking world do you live in?
There's pressure on everybody, dude.
And that kid obviously has pressure on him.
His dad is Tiger fucking Woods, dude.
That's just the way it goes.
He wakes up and sees like a world championship golf training set up in his backyard.
He knows what's going on.
He knows what's at stake here.
Also, I think his dad still, if
we were almost
going to make content with Tiger Woods,
I should almost
talk about that, I guess.
We were almost going to make content
with Tiger Woods.
I don't do full briefings.
Okay.
That's not like the way I operate with anybody or anything strictly because, I mean, Peyton
came on the show, he was doing the middle of the thing.
I got a chance to like hang out with some people who are very, not that I should have
been there.
I'm not saying I should have been invited to positions I was, but whenever you see like
the way Peyton operates in me being around him and things like that, it's hard for me to take many people serious when they're like oh here's what you can't ask or
can't ask it's like okay how about won't ask anything don't come on the show like that you
know what i mean like that's a but there's a couple people like like tiger's people wanted
to have like a briefing with us or whatever you know and it was like all right tiger woods i'll
have a okay for tiger i'll have a fucking briefing here there's people that i will do a briefing for or whatever and when we went through it in a way they talked
about what he's still doing at this age every single day waking up at like 5 a.m then he hits
like the sauna he hits the gym he putts he chips he does this and then by this time he'll have like
45 minutes you can potentially get in some this and then at this time he has his first nine.
And then this time, like his regimented schedule, it just didn't work out for us.
Like the briefing, actually, it didn't end up working out just strictly because of scheduling
conflicts and everything like that.
But getting a chance to hear what he is still doing.
And by the way, Charlie is seeing, right?
Like Charlie is seeing like, like oh this is how you make
it and that's why like you see kids of nfl nba players and we're talking about the nhl the nhl
players and people talk about oh their dad's been in it they understand it they get it that's real
and what they get is how to handle yourself obviously in a locker room how to handle you
know the world that it is with money and potential being in a uh a fishbowl
everybody looking at but also the work like hey this is what you're going to have to do to get
here like this is what you're going to have to do to get there here's the blueprint basically if you
want to do that and i think that is why charlie woods has so much like hey you have the hardest
working guy basically who happens to be the best ever as a dad that you get to see on a regular basis.
That's something that you kind of lock it in or whatever.
Dad's his hero.
He wants to be like him.
What's wrong with that, huh?
You know?
Well, I'll tell you what.
He wants to be like him on the golf course.
That's what I'm saying.
I mean, we're not talking about the extracurricular stuff.
The Winnebago.
If Chuck finds himself down that path, then so be it.
It's his life.
Yeah, it's his life.
If Chuck wants to go be great like Tiger, let him go be great.
Let's talk about an entire generational thing.
It was a very deep convo I had with CFO Phil just last night,
and we had it this morning.
Charlie Woods, him seeing his dad do what he has to do to make it.
I have great faith that Charlie Woods is going to go on to be something in golf. I think in the world that we live in, there are some sports that we will not
be seeing a lot more professionals come from. For instance, the NHL, the NHL to become a NHL player,
the amount of work and torture that you have to put your body through basically to become an elite hockey
player is one that I'm not 100% sure that a lot of kids are going to choose to do if they have
other options, right? For instance, a lot of hockey players come out of Russia, I'd assume,
and I might be mistaken here, but I just in my head, I think, okay, they have a shanty over
there. There's a lean-to over there that has a frozen pond outside that these kids are just sprinting on the ice all day, every day,
and they're doing their thing.
I feel like the people that play hockey in America,
it's a little bit more of an expensive sport.
There's a lot of other options.
So unless your dad is in the NHL and you see and know
and kind of get the chance to kind of go for it and see how to get there,
I don't think you're going to see a lot of professional NHL players coming out of a lot
more situations moving forward because of the internet financial capabilities, the content
business, e-gaming, video games make a lot of money for kids these days.
I think it's going to be hard for kids to want to wake up 5 a.m. and fucking do sprints
blue line to blue line and that whole
thing whenever there's a lot of other options out there with that being said cfo phil's kid
very good at hockey and also celebrating like going for it yeah so i was talking to phil i was
like hey he seems like he's potentially like is does he have that like edge you know where he'll
like is he going to go shoot 200 300 shots
like at night or in the morning in the basement is he going to go skate like everything like that
and feels like well he's a bit young but i guess we'll see and i'm like how do you get that into
your kid or do you even want your kid to do that knowing that he could potentially play a video
game and make a hundred thousand dollars in like a week and a half at his age that he's at right
now i think it'll be very the future of sports is something i'm pretty intrigued to kind of watch and make $100,000 in like a week and a half at his age that he's at right now.
I think the future of sports is something I'm pretty intrigued to kind of watch unfold.
I think there will always be professional athletes. There will always be.
But I think the numbers of people that are going to be attempting to make it
are going to go down drastically as financial opportunities continue to grow
in every other field that is much more attainable.
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I'm getting texted videos from the Tampa Bay Super Bowl boat parade.
AQ sending us videos.
The internet has videos.
It is popping off down there right now, AJ.
The boat parade is something I hope stays anytime a warm team wins the Super Bowl.
This thing seems to be electric.
Welcome back to the show.
AJ Hawk joining us.
What a legend.
Yeah.
Wow. AJ, you won a Lombardi. You guys went back to the show. AJ Hawk joining us. What a legend. Yeah. Wow.
AJ, you won a Lombardi.
You guys went back to Green Bay, Wisconsin,
walked around the stadium, right?
Is that what you guys did?
Yep.
Not quite as luxurious as what the Tampa Bay has going on right now. But when you see these videos,
hopefully, Zeke, maybe we can pop a few up during the show
and see some of the latest ones.
But doesn't it look like every single boat is going to knock into each other?
Do they have the best boat captains alive down there?
Yeah, I don't know how they're all kind of mingling around in different areas.
Because they're all just in a group, and then they're kind of just bouncing around to different boats to talk to and drink with.
You're right.
I'm surprised there hasn't been many bumper boat situations.
There has been a beer that was tossed from one boat to Tom Brady's boat,
which is a $2 million boat, and that thing exploded inside the boat when it was not caught.
But the big story so far, I think, of the Super Bowl boat parade in Tampa,
Tom Brady, after winning his seventh Lombardi,
we've seen Gronkowski, who now has four of them or whatever,
play baseball with a Lombardi trophy.
These New England guys are just so spoiled with Lombardis.
They are reckless at this point.
Tom Brady threw the Lombardi from one boat, okay,
grabbed it, chucked it to another boat, which gets caught.
I believe it's the Gronkowski wide receivers skill player boat.
Another completion, by the way, for Tom.
Hell yeah.
Thank you, Tom.
But Tom has seven of these things at this point.
He's like, yeah, fuck it.
Here you go.
You got it.
This is awesome coming out of Tampa Bay.
I love what they're doing today.
Hey, how many people do you think would have instantly jumped off of every boat,
every ledge near there if that thing went in the water?
Well, I guess they do not have gators there, but they do have manatees.
I believe they have friendly manatees that would have probably brought old Lombardi
back up to the shore like it was Guardian at the end there.
You know what I mean?
The end of Guardian with the sea monster doing the thing.
But what a good time they are having down there.
Chris Godwin has lost his phone.
He has made an official proclamation to Verizon via Mike Evans' IG story,
which was IG Live.
Mike Evans goes live at the very end of this thing.
If you can press play on this.
Okay, so Mike Evans flexing on the boat. Everybody's flexing on the boat right now. this? Big boat, happy boat. Mike Evans said, I'll see you later through his Instagram crowd. Ooh, Verizon.
Then at the very end of this thing, Chris Godwin grabbed it.
Give me the phone.
Hey, Verizon, I know somebody's going to get this to you.
My boy Scotty dropped my phone in the water at Super Parade.
I need a new phone.
That's one of the best receivers in the league right there.
Oh, that's hilarious.
So there is a lot of things happening in this boat parade,
and I think Chris Godwin, what a magical moment right there.
I know somebody's going to see this at Verizon.
Give me a fucking phone.
I'm in a bad spot.
He might be the only person with his phone not out, by the way,
because Scotty Miller went ahead and dunked that thing into the river.
What a moment there.
Hopefully Verizon sends somebody to the boat parade.
It should be a great marketing ploy.
A little Verizon boat, slap a sticker on the side,
have a little dude hand deliver it right to his boat.
If they get that done by the end of this parade,
Verizon, don't drop the ball.
Hey, Verizon.
Step on up.
You lied about the 5G being available everywhere or whatever.
This is something you can step up and make a play.
Godwin, he's the only one without a phone at this point.
You know, this is going to sound rude or whatever.
Everybody wants to film people having fun.
But when you are potentially the people
that are supposed to be being filmed having fun,
if you're doing the filming, what do we have here?
We have a little bit of a situation here, right?
Is there any chance that, you know,
all those boats would put the phones down,
let everybody else film them,
and just fucking black out like the old days?
Or is everybody going to document
every single thing that happens?
Probably the latter.
And I respect it, to be honest with you.
I'd probably be doing the same damn thing.
Party?
What are you talking about?
You went 7-9 last
year. Put your damn phone down
and drink, you know, 18 Michelob
Ultras, man. Maybe that's what Scotty Miller was doing.
Scotty Miller was like, oh, you need to start having more fun.
Yeah. Pow! Give me your phone.
Ping! Pow! That's what Scotty Miller's
doing. Good for them, man. Do whatever they gotta do.
It seems like they're gonna try to run that back.
AJ, if your knees let you
play football still
would you be going out of retirement in joining the green bay packers if that was not available
the tampa bay buccaneers i think there's adrian peterson's like yo get me down there after
watching his boat party more guys are going to be like get us down there let's go and do that thing
yeah i mean there's there's plenty of guys that will want to do that but how many spots are there
like it's going to be hard to hold on to Godwin, right?
So maybe a receiver.
Adrian Peterson seems like a decent choice,
even though LaShawn McCoy just won another ring when he was on the squad
but didn't play in the game.
I just don't know how many spots they have available.
It's not like they have a bunch of weaknesses that they have to fill.
Leonard Fournette is a free agent,
so nobody knows what's going to happen there.
If he goes out and you have Ronald Jones and Adrian Peterson,
I mean, that's not a bad backfield, I guess,
depending upon what Adrian Peterson has left.
It seemed to prove that he has a lot left in the tank this year
whenever he was playing for that team up in Detroit that stunk it.
Fournette does seem like he's having a good time at the parade.
He did tweet out, it's so hot out here, the sun got me seeing things.
I thought JPP had all his fingers just now.
Hey, they're having a good time yeah they are having a good this is a top tier tweet by the way this is a high level tweet a celebratory tweet a good witty tweet i mean
everything that you could expect and this will have nowhere near a hundred thousand retweets
like that drafting ceo thought like that is a grade A tweet right there.
That thing might get 5,000 retweets, 10,000 retweets.
Massive.
That would be a massive.
That would not get 100,000 retweets on that.
And it should, by the way.
It deserves it.
Just like $100 site credit deserves it as well.
Do you think there's going to be people upset that he's finger shaming him for not having them all?
Well, if JPP's upset, then we're really having a conversation, aren't we?
What if JPP goes, is that funny?
Give me your phone.
Thank you, Cousin Juan.
I saw that.
Oh, yeah.
We did.
Look at the weird claw grab.
He could, though.
He makes pics with that thing.
He has not slowed down at all. He actually taught me to stop doing what I was doing with fireworks. He could, though. He makes picks with that thing. He has not slowed down at all.
He actually taught me to stop doing what I was doing with fireworks.
Shout out to him.
Never lost a playoff game.
Shout out to him.
Won another Super Bowl.
Shout out to him.
Catches football better than most people have all their fingers.
Shout out to him.
It's a big shout out to him.
Did you notice Tom was wearing a sleeve on his left knee?
Should there be some worries?
It's something to think about going into the offseason.
Is the old man banged up?
It was this his last season. our injury is going to wear down
the tb12 method that is something we should think about although he threw that lombardi
pretty effortlessly that might have been some liquid courage we do not know at the time we
will follow this story as the offseason unravels aj dac prescott wasn't in the hype video unbelievable
the way they treat their players down there.
What are they doing?
I like the fact that Washington D.C.'s NBC Sports,
the home of Washington football team, the Washington football team.
By the way, that was an accurate sentence there.
Oh, yeah.
With the backup in there.
They're the ones that noticed it, stirred the pot out there.
Does Dak Prescott ever get any respect in Dallas, or will he ever?
This is unbelievable, AJ.
Yeah, it's very unbelievable, isn't it?
But, okay, it could be either they did this on purpose,
they didn't put it in, or most likely what usually is the case,
I think, in these situations, just ignorance.
Someone either, whoever put it together, I don't know if they forgot because Dak didn't play a whole lot this year, this year whatever's going on and they didn't run it by i doubt they ran it by jerry jones do
you think they did i think what happened was okay if i know hold on i i saw a little bit earlier
when you pulled this thing out and actually i was laughing by myself watching so yeah well i wasn't
gonna shoot anything i was just jerry you know what I mean? Yep. Because Jerry is the guy down there.
I believe what happened is Dak Prescott is not on contract for the 2021 NFL season for the Dallas Cowboys.
Okay?
So let's say that editor, whoever did it, puts Dak Prescott in the hype video.
You think Jerry walks down and goes, was that cute?
Did you enjoy what you just did right there?
Are you trying to out-leverage me with Dak Prescott in my own goddamn building? My hands don't get
crammed right in checks unless those checks are for
Dak fucking Prescott, okay?
He is not on Franchise Tag. He is not
on Contract. You keep him out of your little
lit video you got going on down there.
I think that's potentially what the editor was thinking
about on the other side of that whole thing.
But, I mean, it's a weird time to put
out a hype video anyways.
So it's kind of a loss on all ends there.
Yeah, you know what?
I think you might be right.
I don't think Jerry had to say anything.
I think the person putting it together said,
like, hey, if this person's not under contract,
this could look bad on me.
But then the question is, why the hype video right now?
And if I was putting it together, I'd be like, hey,
I'd talk to everybody.
Should I put Dak in here?
Like, what's the deal, man?
What's the contract's like?
What's the likelihood? Like, what should I do? What's the deal, man? What's the contracts like? What's the likelihood?
What should I do?
What's the content you're putting out?
A hype video.
Why are you putting out a hype video right now?
A week after the Super Bowl?
Well, I think it's a good time to get the fan base hyped or whatever.
Get them all jacked up.
Season's around the corner.
Hype video, right?
I don't know.
Is anybody else?
Are other teams putting out hype videos right now?
Isn't there a Super Bowl boat parade happening this weekend for another team?
Yeah, but we've got to get people ready for it now.
Only contracted players, right?
Yeah, only contracted players.
That means Dak's not going to be in it.
So be it.
So be it.
It is what it is, dude.
What a fucking dump.
Hey, who was it where there was the quarterback on the team
that was the presumed starter?
He was at a draft party and
then they drafted was it Mitchell Trubisky they drafted like four over number four overall I think
oh yeah yeah they come to the sponsor event for us come to the sponsor event for us while
you're signing autographs for us we're going to draft your replacement that I assume that has
happened numerous times there where there has been a miscommunication from the scouting department to
the sponsorship part department to the sponsorship
department of an NFL building. You can see
how that plays out. We had a quarterback on
the show. Yeah. You know,
on our draft show.
Oh, yeah. Sure did.
What happened there?
He won the MVP.
That guy won the MVP. That sure did.
Sure did.
Hey, Russell Wilson, his team wants him out of Seattle, dude.
He gets hit too much, don't you think?
His team as in his personal team around him and not the Seahawks?
Yeah, that's what we're saying.
His team as opposed to the Seahawks team.
He's not happy about how the Seahawks team has been treating the person
that his team makes money off of and with alongside of.
His chef, not happy.
We've had to increase the amount of protein that we do
because his muscle fibers have been bruised so often
by the way that the offensive line has been blocking.
His marketing team says, yeah, he'll get a Walter Payton,
but what about an MVP or a Lombardi?
I mean, we could get a better team.
The strength and conditioning coaches,
we have to train for survival, not thriving, survival.
The team had a meeting, a council meeting,
and they all voted that they aren't happy
with what the Seattle Seahawks team is doing with their team's guy.
So I think they are all going to have to come to an understanding
and maybe bring those teams together because there's potential parts of the Seahawks team that probably doesn't want to have
to hear about what the fucking Russell Wilson team has to say namely the offensive linemen that are
on the Seahawks team listening to Russell Wilson's team disparage their particular part of the team
and that's a big part of the Walter Payton man of the year thing it must be but okay how does russell wilson feel about any of this he's frustrated he's sick of
getting hit oh yeah he's sick of getting hit he loves being a seahawk hey jesus loves you
love a seahawk the whole thing he actually says that go hawks but does hey is this this is the
we've never seen russell wilson have any kind of comments like this before, have we,
in his career?
Ty would know.
What, patting like this? No, I mean...
Slapper patting. He's patting
a little bit, it seems like. I don't know.
Sees everybody else.
It sounds like he possibly
may want out. Doesn't he have comments
saying, like, I think I should be more
involved in who we bring
in i want to be involved at the end this is great timing by the way foxy at the end of the day it's
your legacy your team's legacy it helps me involve more that dialogue should happen more often russell
wilson says that players should have more input because they get a sense of who loves the game
and is good that's andrew perloff of the dan patrick show
uh his nickname is mick lovin mick lovin mick lovin he big time me one time at a restaurant
i'm a big fan but he did big time he had a restaurant one time i'm a big fan of his but he
did the um that is the russell wilson interview by dan patrick is happening at the same time, basically, as the news was being released that his team wasn't happy with what the Seahawks were doing.
So it was interesting to hear Russell Wilson address the narrative or rumors that are coming out as the world is learning about the rumors it was it was very interesting timing for how the Russell Wilson
team had something out while he was doing a rather large show with Dan Patrick he also said I'm not
sure if I'm available or not that's a Seahawks question I mean all this drama is going to get
stirred up all offseason or whatever but the Seahawks have invested mightily in Russell Wilson
I mean they chose to go Russell Wilson instead of everybody else they had on their team.
I would assume Russell Wilson's team is like,
maybe we can think about doing something
different. But then when Pete Carroll says,
we have philosophical differences with
the offensive coordinator, we are trying to protect
you a little bit. Maybe run the ball and do different
things. Did Russell Wilson take that as
a shot? Because the offensive coordinator was
all about Russell Wilson. So, what a weird
fucking situation that we have no idea what's going to happen with well especially for russell to start
asking to have more dialogue into like the players that are on the team what the roster looks like i
don't know payton may have had some influence i don't know tom brady with bruce they even talk
about it he when tom brady's being courted there's okay's like, hey, I think Gronk wants to come back.
And B.A. says, hey, let's just figure it out.
Let's get you here, and then we can worry about everyone else
so we want to get in here.
But for Russell to say there should be more back and forth,
there should be more dialogue, I feel like the only dialogue
that happens between a front office or a GM and players is like,
hey, did you play with this dude?
Yeah, I played with him.
Oh, he's a good guy?
Yeah, he's a good dude.
Okay, cool.
That's the most amount of dialogue I feel like you get
when GMs ask players for things.
Yeah, that is interesting to think.
Like, is Russell Wilson at the –
Like, are you going to go –
In a war room?
A player.
It's a player that doesn't really understand your cap situation.
Always like, hey, here we go, guys.
Here's my list of top 27 free agents we should go after.
And by the way, ifsell wilson becomes jackie moon
gm coach and quarterback yeah and if sierra's doing halftime entertainment you know what i
mean and pre-show entertainment i mean if that's becoming an entire thing more power to them i hope
they go on and win that way but it is going to be interesting to see how that whole thing pans out
just like the deshaun watson shit in houston it's like we talked about this earlier aj and you might
know better than us because your connections and everything because you're
up in that top level of people yeah that upper tier that upper tier the bourgeoisie you know
he's kind of up in the in the bourgeoisie up there the um the thought that bill o'brien was
miscasted as a stooge did we were, were we, should we take a few steps back
on how bad Bill O'Brien was at Houston
and maybe reevaluate
how dumb he actually is
with the thought of the things
that we have learned now
with that Houston Texans organization?
I mean, president resigns today
after 20 plus years of service,
wanted to resign earlier
whenever his ideas
got basically thrown in the trash can by
cal mcnerrin easterby or whatever for the gm they said can you give us a couple more weeks so it
doesn't look as bad is bill o'brien leaving potentially the reason why all these problems
are coming to light was bill o'brien basically doing red panda or this new talent that i found
on the internet today who's standing on a balancing act with a wooden board
flipping bowls and spoons onto her head or whatever.
Is that what Bill O'Brien was for the Houston Texans?
Has he been miscasted as Billy O'Stoogin this entire thing?
As you went through that, it did make me reconsider it.
When you first started talking, I was thinking,
no, you did not.
You guys were spot on calling him Billy O'Stooginge but then when you lay it out yeah i guess but when how far back do all how far back do some
of these big mistakes go like or i don't even want to call them mistakes but the the hopkins trade
everything like the weird relationship he seems to have with some players like not not as good
a relationship as you should oh yeah did it all start with easterby or when was it trade
well i i forgot about the
well the Tunsil trade made their team better right he was trying to make it better but they
got rid of all the draft picks players don't give a fuck about that like players don't care about
future draft picks because that's actually good for them okay you're not going to be able to draft
my replacement let's go ahead and figure this whole thing out but the DeAndre Hopkins thing
that was the big that was big right and if now it's coming out that that wasn't bill who
wanted to do that it was actually somebody above him the rumor michael remember michael irvin went
on either get up or first take and was like bill o'brien doesn't like deandre hopkins kids around
the facility or whatever this whole thing and deandre hopkins came out and was like i i did
not say any of that or whatever that whole whole thing. So you did start hearing those rumors about Bill O'Brien
specifically being the problem.
And maybe I have to do a little bit,
re-dive back into what all Bill O'Brien was directly associated with.
But now that we're learning more and more and more about it,
maybe Bill O'Brien was,
maybe that fight that J.J. Watt and the defense coordinator
and everybody had against Bill O'Brien,
maybe that was not with Bill O'Brien. Maybe that was with the higher ups and the reason why they couldn't talk
about it's like well it's the fucking owner of the team we actually fought with it wasn't the head
coach i'm intrigued by all this and these stories will start to leak out as the years go by here
that place is one of the most interesting businesses in america at this time well and
if michael irvin said you know this was bill o O'Brien who was saying this, and then DeAndre says no,
maybe DeAndre told him in a conversation
it was an executive in the front office,
and Irvin just assumed it was Billy O. Glue,
but instead it was actually Easterby.
What if Jack Easterby was like,
listen, I do a kid sermon.
I don't know if you heard about my fish joke,
but this is not it, okay?
Keep the kids out of my services.
By the way, when's my service? All day, every day in this it, okay? Keep the kids out of my services. By the way, when's my service?
All day, every day in this building, okay?
One fish, two fish.
Redfish, new fish,
if you want to keep doing what you're doing, okay?
It'll be a fourth-round draft pick
is what we're getting in return, pal.
Didn't even think about that.
Hey, when did Easterby show up in Houston?
Do we know?
2019.
2019, but when he got there,
he was just a chaplain.
I believe he...
Slithers way up. All the way up. I believe he slithers way up.
All the way up.
I believe he just went up in there.
One good prayer, I assume.
You think there was an exact prayer,
words that he put together in confidence alongside Cal McNair
that made Cal McNair go, this guy, running the team now.
You think there was ever a moment?
Probably.
He might have saved him, too.
Is this like your Jeremy Lin moment?
Did he have one prayer that catapulted him like jeremy lynn by the way
easterby had been preparing for that prayer his entire life and then when he got his chance one
on one with a billionaire who runs a team they had the greatest prayer session of all time
propelled him into running an nfl organization from being a chaplain just a year before that
just like jeremy lynn got propelled into the spotlight,
he'd been preparing for it his entire life, took advantage of it,
got a shoe line, Time Magazine, big money.
Now he's in the G League.
Just like Taylor Heineke had his big moment in the playoffs,
he gets a two-year, multimillion-dollar deal because he had one good game.
I mean, these are things that we have to talk about in the annals of history
of somebody being prepared for a moment and taking advantage of it. one good game i mean these are things that we have to talk about in the annals of history of
somebody being prepared for a moment and taking advantage of it when jack easterby closed his eyes
to pray alongside cal mcnair that first time he knew this was the fucking world series of goddamn
prayers he knew that this prayer had to bring down the holy spirit himself into the room because if i
knock this out of the park
with the Father, the Son, the Holy Spirit,
the entire thing,
I'm running one of 32 franchises in the NFL.
And when he grabbed Cal McNair's hands,
Cal McNair,
he might have put that little electric thing in there.
Cal McNair felt Jesus Christ himself going through him.
And he said, give this guy the team.
And that's when it happened.
I wonder if Jack Easterby had been preparing his entire chaplain life
for that moment.
And when he got in there, he obviously hit a fucking home run.
Congrats to him.
Congrats.
Good job, Jack.
That's something you think about all the time, pray about.
You know what I mean, AJ?
What electric thing did he put that little buzzer that little kids get
at Chuck E. Cheese?
Yeah.
Maybe when they shook hands, he didn't do it, but he had it in there.
And then whenever he said, Jesus, give us a sign if we're in the right place.
You know what I mean?
I felt it.
Oh, my God.
I felt him.
You felt it?
Me too, I think.
Hold on.
Let's see if the other.
Do the other hand then, Lord.
Oh, my God.
I feel him.
Oh, my God.
The Holy Spirit.
And then he says one more.
He burned both of them and counted Spirit. And then he says one more. He burned both of them in Cal McNair.
Yeah.
And then he fucking hot.
The Holy Spirit had captivated Cal McNair.
And he knew at that moment, we have a voice of God in this building.
And he might have been one fish, two fish, red fish, blue fishing up there for the New England Patriots.
But down here, he's going to be calling the shots because Jesus told me to tell him to do so. Amen.
Amen. Amen. Amen.
Someone better call Mad Dog and let him know he's
going to have to change a block around because he's going to want to
pick up right where this conversation left off.
Can't thank you enough for choosing
to listen to this show. The fact that you're still
listening, I am eternally grateful for.
We're going to have a great offseason with a lot of guests,
a lot of conversations, a lot of storylines, a lot of bullshit,
and we can't wait, you know, to kind of navigate through this time together.
Football season's a little bit away.
Yeah, it is, unfortunately.
But there's a lot of stuff to talk about.
A lot of stuff.
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We will see you tomorrow for a big show Thursday.
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