The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 354 - Daytona 500 Recap, Adam "Pacman" Jones, Kyle Long, Pierre McGuire, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: February 15, 2021

On today's show, Pat and the boys chat about everything happening in the sports world and give a full recap of the Daytone 500 which captured everyone's attention yesterday, and they chat about the different QB scenarios in the NFL and where guys might be going. Joining the program is 3x Pro Bowler, All-Pro, one of the 100 Greatest Bears of All-Time, former Bears Guard, Kyle Long joins the program to chat about what he's been doing since he retired, his career path to the NFL, what he's weighing right now, his new TV gig, and much more (26:19-46:39). Next, Pro Bowler, All-Pro, #6 pick of the 2005 NFL Draft, friend of the program, Adam "Pacman" Jones joins Pat and AJ Hawk to tell his side of the story after he was arrested for an altercation last night which was first reported this morning by TMZ (48:28-1:05:10). Later, NBC NHL analyst and Insider, friend of the show, Pierre McGuire joins the program to catch up everyone on what we need to know about the NHL this year, who's looking good, who isn't, how Covid is impacting everything, and who's going to win the Stanley Cup (1:05:12-1:23:03). Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow and listen every day on Mad Dog Radio, Sirius XM Channel 82. We appreciate you all for listening, come and laugh with us, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello, it is Monday, February 15th. I hope you had a fantastic Valentine's Day. The snow is coming down in abundance here in Indiana. Are you good? Yeah. Hello. Hello. It is Monday, February 15th. Hope you had a fantastic Valentine's Day. The snow is falling in abundance here in Indianapolis. We apologize that this is potentially going out a little bit later. Ty had to drive home. By the way, Ty, thanks for your commitment to the show pal you bet thank you all so much for choosing to listen to this show um i know there's plenty of other things you can listen to the fact you listen to us we are eternally grateful for um if you like the show by the end of it please be a friend tell a friend if you don't just act like it never happened big time guest today oh yeah

huge guest today big conversations can't thank you enough. Can't thank them enough. Let's go ahead and get to it. What's going on in sports, you might ask yourself on this Monday, February 15th. And we'll tell you, it's a lot of drama, a lot of controversy.

Is LeBron James ruining the NBA with his flopping? That is our poll today. You can find that at youtube.com forward slash the Pat McAfee show in the community tab. It seems as if LeBron's flopping has gone way too far.

He's flopping all over the place. The NBA has given him warnings. Now he's potentially going to get fined while winning the MVP. Is this what NBA MVP basketball is? I believe it is. It's very smart. You're taking advantage of the rules, helping your team out, maybe putting the other team into a little bit of trouble,

making free throws, moving forward. If you can do it and it helps your team, why not do it? It seems like this is more of a basketball problem as opposed to a LeBron James NBA problem. Just like in soccer with the floppers being rewarded for their teams, you can't blame the player who just so happens to be taking advantage of the rules in the game better than everybody else. Now, if they want to go ahead and get rid of it completely and say, hey, you get caught flopping, you're suspended

four or five games. If they want to take a stern stance, then go ahead and do it, Adam. Go ahead and do it, NBA. But what I'm saying is you can't blame this guy for being the best player to ever play basketball and taking advantage of the rules that basketball has made him. Hate the game. Don't hate the player. That's right. Well said. Thank you, Foxy.

Well said. Now, in there I did say the best player of all time, which automatically leads to an incredible conversation that we could do like every other sports show at least three times a week if we wanted to get into that. But the thing about it is they play two different sports. He and Michael Jordan play two different sports. Michael Jordan revolutionized the game, changed the game,

but LeBron's playing now is much different than the basketball vote. We found that out on the last dance. And everybody's going to say Michael Jordan ain't ever flopping. Well, that's because they were throwing literal clotheslines at people back then. Much different game. LeBron couldn't have played back then. You're telling me the guy that's taller than the people that were doing the bullying has a bigger body than the people that were doing the bullying?

That LeBron James is faster than the people that were doing the bullying? You're telling me he couldn't have adjusted his big-ass body to take a clothesline or two? You are wrong. Imagine this man with a clothesline from hell like he's JBL in WWE back in the day. So I'm tired of that whole conversation. I think Michael Jordan would crush it today just like he did crush it back then. I think LeBron would do the exact same if he went back there. That just never gets talked about.

This guy's taking advantage of all the rules, playing how he's got to play, and he's going to win the MVP. And if Anthony Davis' Achilles can stop being his Achilles... Yes. Yes. That was pretty good sports talk stuff right there. Look for the Lakers to run it back.

Speaking of running it back, Dak Prescott said on his Instagram, after a post from his tight end named... Blake Jarwin. Would have never guessed Blake. I knew Jarwin would have never, ever guessed. Blake Jarwin, tight end for the Cowboys, puts a post on Instagram and says, at Dak underscore four, how about we run it back?

Then Dak puts on his Instagram story because Instagram makes it damn near impossible to really be able to spread anybody else's accounts or messages a lot what Twitter can do with retweet which helps your you know your platform grow and everything like that Instagram although they brought in the Instagram story sharing posts not that easy okay they used to have an app that would screenshot things and copy and paste for you that's something they got to figure out but I like the Instagram story, which is what Dak did and said, that's the only way I see it to our pal. Blake.

Blake Jarlin. But it's interesting. He says, that's the only way I see it. Who else is in that conversation? Is that, that's the only way Jerry and I see it? Or that's the only way the Cowboys and I see it? Or is that just, that's the only way I see it? And by the way, Tad Prescott, Dad's brother,

is probably going to come out and have a little something, something, a little explanation on this. Everybody's wondering, is Dak going to get extended finally with the Dallas Cowboys? A man who got drafted late, took over a starting job from Tony Romo, retired him, had him make $17 million a year calling games, forget how to call games in an entertaining way. All that has happened, and Dak still has not been paid yet. Tony Romo was paid by the Cowboys and by CBS

in the exact same time that Dak has not been. He got franchise tagged, made a lot of money. Will he get franchise tagged again after one of the most gruesome injuries of all time? That is going to be TBD. It seems like Dak wants to be a cowboy, but does Jerry want Dak to be a cowboy? Always said that he was.

Always said that he sees him as the future of the franchise. Always says that his hands don't get cramps writing checks. He paid everybody on that team, but Dak Prescott, the long-term deal, will he be in the free agency market? How will that look for Dak alongside Deshaun Watson, Russell Wilson, Carson Wentz Jacoby Brissett Derek Carr potentially Marcus Mariota there's a lot of quarterbacks out there

with Dak the Adam that's not the way he sees it with a cowboy seat the same way there's a bunch of other drama as well including a Raiders uh fan account blog account coming after us this show all weekend excuse me this show what was attacked by i believe cody oh from the raiders okay cody now they write blogs they use names of dead people as the people that signed it classic serial killer but i've been watching a lot of detective work we've been snooping around it's potentially j JT the Brick, too. Potentially JT the Brick. But we've been snooping around, and the Raiders fans are coming in. By the way, for good reason. If I was a Raiders fan, I would want Derek Carr to be thought of

as a very good quarterback by everybody as well. I mean, you got a chance to ride the wave when the Raiders were in Oakland. Derek Carr was on his come up. Here we go. Then I watched his leg get broken on Christmas Eve in MVP season. And it was a bummer because Derek Carr, really cool guy, becoming a great player. And the Raiders were becoming relevant again. Holy shit.

Here we go. Since then, team has moved out of town. Now they're in Las Vegas. And it seems like Derek Carr is not going to be the guy for John Gruden long term. And what we had to do after he hurts himself, where it looks like his groin got ripped out of his body. You remember that? He was strolling and scrolling the field to the right there. Running, running, running.

Primetime game against the Los Angeles Chargers. And all of a sudden sudden it looked like there was a potential, because there's no fans in there, it looked like there was a sniper up on top of the thing and instead of shooting him in the hamstring, which is normally, ah, you know, they got him right in the groin. Instead,

boom, pow, he pulls up, actually does this, throws it away, jogs into the sideline, then he does an entire Jared Leto from the Little Things walk. Shout out Big Weekend of Watching stuff. He walks all the way back. Marcus Mariota comes in. Great game.

Marcus Mariota comes in. They end up losing by three in overtime. Insane game. The next day, that game was on December 17th. On December 18th, we had to have a conversation about Derek Carr. We don't talk about Derek Carr that much. Okay, that's not really something we do. I have a lot of respect

for what Derek Carr was. But on December 17th, we see a guy who's already been paid a hundred some million dollars with no money guaranteed left on his contract. And it seems like a sniper shot him right in his groin somehow.

Missed the ball, hit the groin, maybe a hip flexor, pop. We had to have a conversation. And this is how the conversation went the day after that game. Derek Carr, by the way, you're never going to see him in a Raiders jersey again. Probably not. Hell of a run. Hell of a run. Good career.

Good career. Well, you know, he's going to be a backup for a long, long time. He's going to be a journeyman in the NFL. So his starting career was fantastic. He is going to be a journeyman in the NFL. So his starting career was fantastic. He is going to be a backup for at least the next year or two, I'd assume, after everything that's going on. Okay, so everything that had gone, Connor took a lot of shots.

I am Connor. Connor is literally a Boston stooge, okay? He ended up playing the next week, which none of us could have expected. Okay, none of us could have known that whenever we were having that conversation. Marcus Mariota had just had the biggest game of all time. We thought potentially Marcus Mariota

who got Tannenhild, Tannenhild, Tannenhild, Derek Carr whenever he got a chance to play. Instead, something happened with God, the groin, and the hip flexor. What made him come out of a very close divisional game on prime time was healed in about a

week and a half. He's playing again the next week. Then things go forward. So we're getting the clip from the day after it looks like his season is ending. He's potentially going in for surgery. And they're saying this is how they were talking about Derek Carr. Hey, Raiders beat. Okay, I get it. Okay, I get what you did there.

And then me acknowledging that Derek Carr is potentially going to be an Indianapolis Colts quarterback. And by the way, that would make the guy who said that he's going to be a career journeyman, Boston Connor, very happy. Actually, if that was to happen, would that not make you thrilled? Absolutely. Yeah, let's go and let the Colts stink is basically how he's thinking. And I'm not saying that, by the way. I'm not saying that. But now that you know that the dead cap space for Derek Carr for the Raiders

is only like $2 million if they trade him or cut him, he's probably not going to be a Raider anymore, if I had to guess. If he is going to get traded like people are saying Marcus Mariota, we are a team that's in the market. If we end up with Derek Carr as quarterback here, will I be pumped about it? Not as pumped as I would be about like four other fucking guys, but I would be excited about Derek Carr.

You can't compare the day after we were talking about a guy potentially dying and his leg falling off, made him out of a primetime game against the visual to what we were saying last week after Matthew Stafford's already gone, Russell Wilson's potentially on there. I mean, there's a lot of shit popping off. So what I would like to tell Raiders beat, I think it's either Cody or anybody else over there, you fucking suck, okay?

I fucking hate you. You're the worst part of the internet. And we will continue to give the Raiders zero coverage because y'all motherfuckers don't matter. Now, with that being said, love Darren Waller. Okay, wish he would come to the Colts. I wish that would be a package deal that I'm hearing maybe quarterback tight end coming to a team.

Wish that would happen out of Oakland. Save Darren Waller from this shitty fan base that has Cody from the Raiders involved in it. And then get him over here. That's how I feel. But I was getting tweets all weekend from these motherfuckers. All weekend. I'm like, yo, I'm trying to learn about Elisa Lair. Okay, over there at the Cecil Hotel. I'm trying to learn about theisa Laird, okay, over there at the Cecil Hotel.

I'm trying to learn about the little things with Denzel Washington and Jared Leto and that guy that played that guy that sang really good. Yeah, Freddie. Freddie. I'm trying to learn about Britney Spears. Jesus, by the way. Come on. That was alarming.

Yeah. Everybody needs to take it. And I'm trying to learn about the silversmith's daughter who somehow feels like Tom Brady owes fucking her an apology. So I'm trying to figure that out. I got these Raiders people attacking me all weekend. It's like, hey, we're all friends here until we're not. We're not anymore.

Okay? I hope you all eat shit. That's how I feel about it. Anyways, Adam Cole's a scumbag. Knew it all along. Let's have a hell of a Monday. At Tone Diggs, how you doing, pal? It sucks to be you because

if you go back, which no one would ever do to us, I have been saying just terrible things about the play of Dewey Haskins for years, but now that he's a Pittsburgh Steelers, he's going to be the next best thing. But that happens to you, and that stinks. I didn't say that. That was Connor saying he's going to be

a compliment. That's what I'm saying. These fucking scumbags. The amount of clown, this fucking conned punter he can't do. Fuck you. By the way, Shane Leckler, Ray Guy. These are some of the greatest punters of all time. Are you just saying

Shane Leckler, just a punter? Fuck you. Okay. And I think it's cody i do believe it's cody maybe it's jt the brick i'm not 100 never liked him he never liked us uh he has a show on at 1 a.m here on this channel so it's you know there's just an interesting there's an interesting thing going on with that entire operation over there by the way you you said it that was week after a week 14 game and it looked like he may never play a game ever again in the NFL the way that he reacted to that groin. No, I'm not going to bury him.

But they were in a playoff hunt. Yeah. 7-7. Primetime game. Division. He's out, I assume, because I have respect for Derek Carr, which I still do, by the way, still have respect for him. But in the moment, thought he was dead.

I thought Derek Carr was dead. I thought he was done for done for and I said to be a backup for a year or two who's gonna pay a guy Derek Carr to be a starter whenever they just saw his leg potentially get popped off in the middle of a game in week 14 that just seems to be in the natural trend I still feel good about what I said and I I responded to their tweets, by the way, with just the... Taking notes. Yeah, like, hey, I will... Marking you down. This is for me to go back through my Twitter account.

What did I tweet about? That's what I watched this weekend. Who did I respond to? That's who I hate. Okay, that's what I... I did that strictly for me. So, I mean, I don't hate them. I do kind of, though.

That is a bad part of the internet there. You know what I mean? Now, granted, people would say we are as well. So it's kind of a balance issue. At Boston Conner, it seemed like nobody was really attacking you in that entire video, but it seems like you were the one really taking shots at Derek Carr more than anybody else. I wish I saw this before. What did I say?

He's had a hell of a starting career, and he's going to be a journeyman in the NFL? Is that a bad thing all of a sudden? Fitz Magic's a journeyman. He's one of the best quarterbacks of all time. You said his starting career's over though. Fitz is still starting at this with 37 years of age. Well, Fitz was he had to back up last year and you know Derek Carr might have to back up

for a little too. What's wrong with that? Now, I agree with what you said. Secondly, that's why I did the little write down thing. So whenever this does potentially happen, let's go ahead and talk about it. But them talking about us changing our narrative, I feel like you've had your same narrative. I've had my same narrative. And if he ends up as an Indianapolis Colt, okay, we need a goddamn quarterback.

I would want Derek, by the way, more than Carson. Just strictly because of the money. I believe the money owed is much different between those two. But it seems like anybody could potentially be the Colts quarterback, including Russell Wilson at Ty Schmidt. different between those two uh but it seems like anybody could potentially be the colts quarterback including russell wilson at ty schmidt russell wilson potentially moving up near you in indiana uh maybe your next door neighbor sierra russell future the other baby yep ty caitlin have a hell of a time together up there i would love that i said hey if russell wilson actually orchestrates his way out of seattle i will turn the corner on Russell Wilson because he's not a robot anymore. He's saying, hey, listen, you know what?

My O-line fucking stinks. It has the entire time I've been here, and I'm sick of it. I don't want to say Go Hawks anymore. Maybe it's Go Horse or Go Colts or whatever the hell they say. Go Colts. Go Colts. Go Horse. Go Colts.

Go Horse. That was a hashtag. Go Shoe. Go Shoe. Go Shoe. Go Shoe. There it was. There it was. For the Shoe. Go coals. Go horse. That was a hashtag. Go shoe. Go shoe. Go shoe. Go shoe. There it was. There it was.

For the shoe. Let's go. I'll be excited to see where these quarterbacks go. Russell Wilson potentially being on the market is insane. I would assume a lot of people are calling up there to see how they could get him to their team. That's the type of guy where you would give absurd amount of things. If you think he's the missing piece, let's go ahead and get him in here. No matter what, you're kind of selling out the future,

but you can figure out the draft picks later if you have to get it. Russell Wilson's a game changer. Imagine him with that Colts offensive line. Imagine him, by the way, going to New York. What if he was a Jet? Russell Wilson in New York would be... Now, he's not going to a better team there.

He's not going... Any team that's looking for a quarterback, by the way, probably not a better team except for the Colts. It's the only position that Russell Wilson could potentially be. If he actually is available, do you think he supersedes Deshaun Watson? Teams will definitely go after him

more so than they would Deshaun Watson. I think so. I do too. I think so because he's already won it. I think that is why. Now, what is the money guaranteed? That's what you have to look at immediately following that statement is. They're both going to be a king's ransom to get.

Right. It's going to take a lot. Now, granted, allegedly the Eagles, allegedly, we talked about this last week, Ron George Jaworski, who I have met and is a very nice guy. He was very nice to me and Foxy whenever we met him down at the draft last year in Tennessee, like very nice, like incredibly nice. He came out and said that his sources are saying that the Eagles have been offered a couple seconds and maybe a third or another third down the road.

Then it came out that potentially Ertz is also in the trade package. So you get Carson, Ertz, and then in return you get a couple picks or whatever. The Eagles are allegedly waiting for at least a first-round pick. I would assume Deshaun Watson and Russell Wilson would go for more than Matthew Stafford went for, which is two firsts and a future third or whatever. So let's go ahead and go at least three firsts are probably going to be needed. And then you have to start looking at teams that have all their firsts to give up in this whole thing. It's going to be very interesting to see how any of it plays out.

But I think quarterbacks are moving. Now, that might be just me thinking optimistically, strictly because when we woke up this morning, there's really nothing to talk about. So a quarterback move would be incredible for us very, very selfishly. It would be. But now you've got Marcus Mariota potentially on trade. Here we go.

What's he going to go for? What does Derek Carr go for? No money really owed, I don't think, to Derek Carr. You could potentially cut that guy, I guess, if you trade him. Oh, yeah. I think it's only $2 million or something like that. Dead cap. So that would be wild.

Not that anybody would. Not that anybody would. I'm just saying, everything that comes alongside all these players is what you have to look at. Gruden would. Gruden's the one that's been shopping them. I don't know why we're taking all the heat. Well, Gruden also has paid a hundred and some million dollars

to rebuild that team. Do you think a 10-year deal with three years not going to the playoffs with one particular quarterback, you think Gruden's going to take the heat or the quarterback's going to take the heat? I'm not saying it. I'm just telling you about the world that we currently live in. And I like the fact that Raiders fans are diehard behind Derek Carr, by the way. I do like that fact.

I do. But just know there's probably going to be another quarterback playing for you guys next year. Just like he paid who? Peterman? Oh, yeah. Which makes sense. A million bucks. Throws the most catchable football in the NFL.

What are you, four picks in one half? By the way, that was a rough start. Okay, I think pretty bad go of it there that first game. But he'll be able to turn back around. Zito, how's the poll looking for the day? We have to get to a break. First time guest coming on the other side. Really?

Yeah. Okay. Is LeBron ruining the NBA with flopping? No, 33%. Yes, 67%. Come on. 67% of the 56,000 votes is saying that LeBron is ruining the NBA with his flopping. I want to let you know, Zito might have voted yes, but the show account voted no.

Thank you. Fade Fox. No problem. Thank you, Fox. LeBron also set another record this past weekend. All-time leader in turnovers. Turnovers? Yeah.

Do they count playoff turnovers as well? I don't know. Because the guy had, like, I don't know, 49 more games than anybody else every single year for 11 years. Would make sense if they counted that because Carl Malone was the one who he passed who also played a couple seasons. Yeah. I mean, any stack can kind of paint a picture, but then you can also start prodding at it

and kind of paint a different one if you'd like to. If you want to go ahead and take a happy accent with Bob Ross, you just got to go over that thing. That's what happens when you play for a long time, and you have the ball in your hands 43 minutes a game. You're going to turn it over a couple times. And what? He made the finals, what, every year for like eight years straight or something like that?

Eight straight finals. He's so good. Not saying Jordan isn't. Couldn't capitalize that. I'm not sure LeBron's NASCAR team will be able to compete like Jordan's NASCAR team is currently competing. No way. But maybe down

the road. We'll see. By the way, congrats to Mitch McConnell winning the Daytona 500. That may be Mitch or Mitch. Daytona 500. I bet on Kyle Busch. Kyle Busch plus 1,500 odds. Tasty. I would have won 3,500 if Kyle Busch wins that thing.

He gets crashed out by some stooge in the last lap there. He survived the first battering ram that came through and took out 16 cars, I think, or 15 cars. Then there was an eight-hour delay because of weather in Florida. And then all of a sudden, Kyle Busch was back. Denny Hamlin was running a hell of a race. He was.

Denny Hamlin was running a hell of a race. They had that thing fast. Oh my god, it was a quick car. They said they actually... Now listen, because he's won the past two years in a row, he would have been the first ever to win three straight. That's right. Wow. Do you know Denny Hamlin potentially could have made Daytona 500 history yesterday if

he would have won for three straight times. Do you know that? No. Denny Hamlin says whenever they show up down there at Daytona, first race of the year, it's the biggest race. Mm-hmm. They're very comfortable in the car from what they did last year, the year before that. They just put that bitch to Daytona setting

and it comes all the way back. Might not be the fastest car, but it's the most durable, steady, consistent vehicle on the road. That's what it's all about. Until fucking Mitch McConnell hits that thing. Slingshot after an absolute catastrophe of a last lap at about 1.30am.

Last night, if you watched the Dayton, it was late night. A dude's car was on fire. Okay? He drives into pit lane. Fire people are trying to put it out. This fire is fucking durable.

Good job. Just keeps coming back. They said it was potentially a wheel bearing was on fire or whatever. They put it out for like half a second. The Santa Claus, when the turkey's in there and the fire goes out, they put the fire out for like half a second or whatever. He tells his pit crew person, I won't go back out. Goes back out, fire starts.

Car's back on fire. He hits the brakes. Shit goes through the floor. He has no brakes. Car's on fire. Driving around Daytona 500. About 10, 30, 11 o'clock at night. What a life.

Maniacs, all of them. Why the hell is he hitting the brakes, too? Why is anybody telling him to go back out there when your car is still on fire? There was a fire person that was blowing it, and they pulled off. I was like, well, you're going to be right back here. I hope. I hope. I hope you make it back here, pal.

That's what I saw on video this morning of like six cars going up in flames. I was like, that's weird. I didn't hear that six guys died yesterday at Daytona, but apparently they did not. Mitch McConnell, the guy that did win years ago, 2007, 2008, he had a horrific. Those crashes. A horrific crash. Bad news. He now becomes a Daytona 500 winner before Kyle Busch, you know.

I'd like to, because we recorded Hammer Down earlier, and I did say Mitch McConnell was the winner. It wasn't. It was Michael McDowell. Mitch McConnell happens to be a U.S. Senator, I believe. What? I apologize for putting that name in your head. You fucking grew up on Dayton.

Yeah, you did. I can tell you. Yeah, I grew up on the Rainbow Warrior. He's calling racist now. Him and Clint Boyer right now. Yeah, and Earnhardt, okay? Not Mitch McDowell. Listen, I will let you know that Mitch McDowell's story is an incredible one.

Yeah. He's been around a long time. I mean, if Mark Martin was out there, I wouldn't have got his name wrong. Well, I just want to let you know, Clint Boyer, electric on the microphone. Yeah? Electric.

They're doing it right over there. Now, they had to fill like three hours of dead time, and then they had to come back. I don't know how, they must have all

gotten naps or did an energy drink or cocaine. We've got to get to a break. I saw one guy went to the drive-thru to get food.

In his car? Probably that same fucking guy that drove on fire. That dude has no care at all for his body. This dude was just fucking wanting to run right back out there. It's like they did not fix that. There wasn't even like a hurt, hurt, hurt, hurt. Nothing.

Just fucking right back out there. What a weapon. Just wants to win. Sorry to the Daytona 500 winner named... Michael McTown. Michael. It's not even Mitch. Jesus Christ. to the Dayton 500 winner named... Michael McDonnell. Michael. It's not even Mitch.

Jesus Christ. I didn't even know that guy was in the race. Nobody did. Okay, that thing finished at 1.30 a.m. How was I supposed to know? I got a guy who says he lives and dies with Dayton. Diggs. Diggs, Coach Diggs. Mama Diggs.

You should just sit down in the basement and watch Dayton and NASCAR. He's supposed to be our NASCAR expert when he comes flying in with Mitch McConnell. How am I supposed to know any different? That's on me. I've got to do better research. You didn't think it was odd that the winner of the Daytona 500 happened to have the same name as the former Speaker of the House? First of all, did not know what you just said.

Former Speaker of the House? He doesn't speak anymore at the house? Majority, minority, I don't know. I don't know all that. He just doesn't know that. Did not know what you just said. Former Speaker of the House? He doesn't speak anymore at the House? Majority, minority, I don't know. I don't know all that. He just doesn't speak anymore. He should raise those people. I mean, to be clear, though, I have said numerous times, Mitchell McConnell, Mitchell McDowell, Mike McDonald,

you might as well just put them all into a hat. I don't know much about that word. I think my life is much better for it. On the other side, joining us two minutes ago, we have to get to a break. Kyle Long of the Chicago Bears, a man who I have spent time with, hung out with before, partook in off-field activities alongside,

but he has never been on the show. Cannot wait to chat with him. I think he's also a NASCAR tie-in. We'll ask him about Mitch McDowell winning the Daytona. They're putting dirt on Bristol. They're putting dirt down on Bristol. Bristol's becoming a dirt track. And I'm not talking about sprint car racing,

because I know a lot of people are thinking I don't know much about racing. Child, please, I live in Indianapolis. Hell yeah. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now, former Chicago Bear All-Pro Pro Bowler, stud, offensive lineman, Kyle Long. What are you doing, bud? What's going on, boys?

Hey, you're cold. You're in a cold place. I didn't know you were going to be in a cold place. I thought you would be in Cali. It's snowy out there. I'm in central Virginia. I just got home from the dentist. I can only feel half my face anyway. The cold is not helping. Did you have cavities? Dude, I had all kinds of stuff. You know how the NFL is.

You show up to the dentist that they provide in the training room. They're kind of like, all your teeth are there. You clearly dip. Come see me next year. Come see me next year. And then when I got out of the league, my dad was like, first thing you need to do, you're on TV now. Go see a dentist. You need to take care of your

teeth. That's huge for TV. And your dad basically just buried your grill set there that's kind of rude i'm happy you're you know what i said i got my genetics from you asshole uh what have you been doing we saw you on cbs crushed it by the way i think you're very good on television i wish you would do it more were you guaranteed to get into TV because your dad and brother and everybody? Or is it a decision? Nepotism plays a massive role in my success across all fields of competition. So, you know, got into the NFL based on a last name, obviously. The media gig, you know, I just grew up on a studio.

I grew up in a studio. In all seriousness, Pat, I appreciate it, and I reciprocate those comments. I love watching you. You are in your honey hole here doing the media gig. You and all your boys have so much fun, I've got to say. CBS Sports offered me a gig to do a pregame before their big pregame. It's Tops, that other pregame show, and Adam Shine is the host. He's great, and I realize more and more as I do it how much

respect I have for folks who have made a life long career media so much studying so much being on top of your game which is why I'm like on the fence about it like you can look stupid real quick I got attacked by Raiders fans this weekend because we gave a take on Derek Carr's starting career potentially being over after that Thursday night game where it looked like his hip flexor groin got sniped out from the middle of that thing thought he was potentially done Mariota comes in now he's potentially a Colt let's talk about the quarterback carousel that's potentially happening here Kyle now whenever you left Chicago I don't remember all the ins and outs, but it was your decision, right? Definitely still could have played or no?

I ended as a terrible, salty, injured guy who actually, coincidence or not, I had the hip flexor groin that we're talking about with Carr. So when Carr had that, I had the same thoughts that you did. Like, this stuff is tough. You can't get outside the pocket, which in today's

game, you know, they tore the statues down in 2020. They're going to do it in the NFL in the quarterback pocket pretty soon. No more standing still. And if you have a hip flexor or a groin, as you know, that's awful. It's debilitating. And I thought, obviously, Mariota was doing well. He was balling, making the most of it.

And I played for Marcus at Oregon, so I'd love to see him have an opportunity somewhere. Maybe Chicago. Who knows? Derek Carr. I think you've talked about this at length. He's less expensive than Carson Wentz. I just don't know if I'm ready to pull the trigger on Carson Wentz yet. What do you think about, how do you feel about these guys? Carson Wentz' situation is a little bit different. He is kind of asking to be released or whatever after the head coach was fired, but they went their separate ways because of philosophy differences. But they're the ones that drafted Jalen Hurts, and they hire Jalen Hurts' friend as a quarterback coach basically.

They're kind of forcing Carson. It's very interesting, but put Carson aside. Let's go Deshaun. Let's go potentially Russell. Let's go Deshaun. Let's go potentially Russell. Let's go with these, you know, Matthew Stafford. Massive names, quarterbacks are like, you know what? I'm going to go try to get to a place that wants to win. How do you feel about that, Kyle?

How do you feel about that whole mindset? Well, let's just run down the list then. I'll start with Matt Stafford because that's the one you finished on. I'm so happy for Matt Stafford. Me too. I can't imagine being a guy with his skill set being in Detroit for all that time, not having the cavalry show up. The reinforcements never arrived.

Ever. He's been through multiple regimes, multiple injuries, played through multiple injuries. He'll get an opportunity to go to a tremendous market with a team that's ready to win now, as you know. A lot of tough guys to block on that defense um a lot of tough guys to block on that defense a lot of tough guys to cover on that offense the offensive line is predicated on the running game matt stafford will have every opportunity to shine there um let's talk about

let's talk about russell russell's a guy that is you know he could set your clock to the russell wilson led seahawks over the last decade oh. He's a guy that you forget about because he's so damn good, and he overcomes so many obstacles that we're unaware of because of his skill sets. You look at his ability to get outside the rush, continue plays with his feet, and then make the throw with his arms. Reminds me a lot of a guy number 15 in Kansas City, if we're going to be honest.

Him having an opportunity to go somewhere is franchise changing. If he wants out and he wants a fresh start, as an NFL fan, I say, God, dog, let him out of there. Go let him go where he wants to go, man. Russell Wilson's great for the NFL. You think Patrick Mahomes is great for the NFL? He is. Russell Wilson has been great for the NFL.

Give him what he wants. So you're on the side of if guys want to go to a place, because now the NBA was like this for a long time. You have teams that, hey, this team is trying to win right now. And it kind of built, you know, I think LeBron going to Miami obviously expedited the whole process, but it kind of became this thing where teams like super teams are almost being made. In the NFL now, the Rams gave it a go whenever Goff was on his rookie contract. They're bringing people in. Now you see what the Bucs are doing. I assume that this is potentially going to be the way of the future here

with guys choosing where they want to go, don't you think? There's absolutely going to be two trains of thought as an upstairs-type guy, Pat. We're big upstairs guys. The one way is absolutely what you're saying. Let's load up. Let's make it a sexy place to play. Let's dump money into our free agency and all that stuff and get all the right guys here.

Or you can take a page out of the Brian Flores book, and this book may change next year because they went and they tanked for Tua. They got Tua. Fitzpatrick balled out. Now there's question marks even in that locker room. My thought is you can still build your franchise from the ground up and that may be a more

sustainable option. The question marks revolving around the Rams roster, etc. If they don't win now, are they going to hit the Mount Everest slope downward? That's no good. We watched St. Louis for a very long time, and they were in that boat,

and it could be there with the LA Rams. Intriguing whenever you go all in and then it doesn't work. That'll be something that we'll obviously see more of as more teams choose to go all in. We're talking to Kyle Long, legendary. Hey, legendary offensive lineman for the Chicago Bears for a long time. Now, your story, you were a baseball player, right? Much better baseball player than you were offensive lineman?

Well, I started playing O-line because my younger brother took the varsity quarterback job at the high school. So I started playing in my 10th grade year, and we won state that year. It was a lot of fun. Played both sides of the ball. Didn't play – I wasn't a core teams guy. I apologize. That's a shame.

I couldn't do kickoff, kickoff, return. Just couldn't do it. We didn't punt much, though. We didn't punt much, though. You wouldn't have had much action. So played baseball, too. Loved baseball from a very young age. It's what separated me from Chris, who, as you know, was, you know,

number two pick. Everybody's All-American, looks like G.I. Joe. I was like, I'm going to do my own thing. Smart. Went and played baseball, went to Florida State. That was a damn good time, by the way. I was there for summer semester, summer bridge, and fall. There you go, lefty.

Open up the stands. See that thing coming in hot. I'm like Ichiro in there. You know what I mean? That's what they say. I went to Florida State, Pat, and let me just say, it probably was a lot like West Virginia in that it's just a damn good time. People are great folks.

They love it. They got a little bit of an elbow problem, but it's not a problem. Okay. Got you. And how'd that fail? Miserably, how'd you end up in Oregon? You just transferred over there? Well, it didn't fail.

You know, you fail upwards sometimes. Your boy. I had to switch states, coasts, sports, lives, essentially. Went to junior college in Saddleback College in Orange County I was working at a jack surfboards building sector nines and the football coach was like why are you here who are you I was like you don't want to know why I'm here he got me out there to the school played two years got a scholarship to Oregon and started four or five games and ended up uh playing for the bears had a had a damn good time of it now we five games and ended up playing for the Bears.

Had a damn good time of it. Now we're here chatting it up. I remember sitting on the lawn at the Pro Bowl waiting for people to show up with you and we were just shooting the shit. My rookie year, it seems like yesterday. Yeah, well, that's the thing. You made the Pro Bowl as a rookie. It was like, okay, this guy, Quentin Nelson, basically, I guess is the newest form of Kyle Long, but you made it like your first three. It was just like, Oh my God, this guy arrived,

played baseball, had the time of his life, plays at Oregon for a little bit, gets all the Nike swag. I had to assume all the Nike swag at Oregon, I guess. Good for you, by the way.

I got some right now. Oh, my brother always gives me shit. He's like, dude, you were there for six weeks. Drop the gig. Is he a Ditas or is he a Nike as well? I don't know. I think he's a... I'm not really sure.

I think he's like a Merrill guy. He likes, you know, he's a big hiker guy. He does. He loves Waterboys. They climb that fucking mountain every year, dude. Every year. Unbelievable, dude. Have year. Unbelievable, dude. Have you ever done it?

I find the biggest hill in Call of Duty and I just sprint up. Hey, by the way, Pat, I know you're a big gamer now and I know you're into the VR stuff. Thank you. Thank you. Thanks for following along. I think another thing that you should give a shot because NASCAR season Daytona 500 just happened is the iRacing thing it's a simulation it's a great gig you can wear your little vr goggles you can sweat it up uh but if you want to get a feel for what those daytona drivers are going through last night put the vr goggles on

hit up one of your buddies with iRacing and get in the cockpit i i believe we have one coming to the office from what i've been told we potentially have one on the way it's expensive like 35 grand or something for like a really good one or whatever i'm getting in there you you have a nascar deal right you were doing a show with nascar you did the racing has that always been something you've enjoyed or i've enjoyed nascar a lot i got hurt in 2015 season ending ankle injury and a buddy i needed something to immerse myself in because as you said football was everything for me it was like like success, success, success. And then it was a massive injury. I needed something.

So my buddy said, let's watch NASCAR. I got into it. My buddy JR was like, hey, we play this game. It's more of a sim. It's really serious. If you like NASCAR, you should get into this. So I did it. And four years later, I mean, I had a TV show last year with NASCAR.

My buddy JR owns Mode Motorsports. They're in the eNASCAR iRacing series. And, yeah, we enjoy it. It's a lot of fun. Did you watch last night? Big Mitch McDowell? Mitch McDowell? Dude, you know what?

He hit the Pat McAfee punt on Brad Keselowski on that last lap. It was, you know, it was all Fords at the front, sprinkling a couple Chevys and Toyotas behind, and then all of a sudden all hell breaks loose. Daytona, man, it's great. Daytona is something that you have to wait around all day for. The weather comes through, and they ain't canceling it. And then when the cars get back on the track, they say,

hey, we're going to have a winner tonight, regardless of what happens. That thing ended like 12.31 a.m. I did not. I was asleep for sure. I woke up this morning, saw old Mitch won for the first time in 370 races. He's been grinding in the cockpit there for a long time. I did not know Keselowski was the guy that he passed. I had money on Kyle Busch, KY, my guy.

That's who I was betting. Yep. Kyle Busch is my favorite driver, man. He's what the sport needs more of. There's a lot of great guys, Chase Elliott, Brad Keselowski, Joey Logano. These are all big names, but Kyle Busch, I mean, everybody needs a heel, bro.

Everybody needs a heel. And to share a name with one of the greatest wheel men in the history of NASCAR is pretty cool. Gets rude for the old Candyman. He and I had Candyman. Oh, because the M&Ms. By the way, his pit grew all different colors as if they

are. Yeah, it is. The color suits, you know what I mean? The whole thing. KY and I, that's his name whenever he gets going, by the way, KY. he and i had a steak and shake i think like 3 4 a.m here in indianapolis when the super bowl was in town that's where i met him i met him at a party incredible time ky is a good time and i know nothing about racing so i started following and he's in fights with everybody okay this is not the same guy he is the perfect

heel at all times i love you're right i think nascar needs a lot more of that from from a fan's perspective i got to spend time with uh kyle bush i met him at the track one time and we've we've texted a little bit um i'm a big fan of his but he reminds me of a great buddy of mine uh from a competitive standpoint and that is number six jay cutler and when i met kyle bush, I said, bro, even that, I was like, I had to like pull him aside. You know when you're like with a couple people and you got to pull him aside and be like, hey, I just want to tell you,

you kind of remind me of this guy, Jay Cutler. Have you heard of him? He's like, oh, I love that. I love Jay Cutler. By the way, everybody does. It's been nice to kind of see. By the way, you've been on team j cut for a long long time now the whole world is kind of coming around on uh j color via reality tv and

his instagram and everything like that what a legend huh is he like that every single day is that just what j cutler is is him out there on the ranch with his goddamn chickens well it's like when people ask me like oh you've met pat mcaf. Is he really like that? And I'd be like, dude, you'd have to hang out with him to believe it. That's who he is. He's a funny guy. He's a great guy, great energy. And the same can be said for Jay in regard to his personality. I mean, it rolls off the tongue so easy for him when he's being a smartass,

and it rolls off the tongue so easy when he's being a dickhead. He is a great guy. And, you know, as many people said when he's being a dickhead. He is a great guy. And, you know, as many people said, he wasn't a great teammate. I just think they gave up on trying to approach him. I bothered him so much my rookie year. I was like, this guy's going to buy me free shit. He's so rich. He's going to give me, like, everything I need.

So rich. And you know what? I bothered him until he did, Pat. And to this day, you know, he took me hunting one time. I've never been hunting before. He took me hunting in a helicopter, this guy. Whoa. You guys are sawing down hogs.

All because I was like, hey, I'm here to protect you. You might as well be friends with me, pal. Hey, not a bad. That's a good American success story. You and Jay Cutler being good friends, pal. A true love story. So you really had just like 10 cavities in half your face i'm starting to see it a little bit it's on this side i'm

starting to see it i couldn't even put a lipper in on the way home routine i'm pretty regular i'm usually on the john by one uh what do you have, Ty? Kyle, we had Chris on not too long ago, and we asked him about you guys going head-to-head, and obviously he said, I think that you're really tough, but that he has the upper hand. I mean, is that true at all?

Or would you, like if you guys really went into an Oklahoma drill, would you bury his ass? Well, Chris and all his D lin linemen they take a lot of plays off so he'd probably be fresh i will say i mean i'm 315 shot and we can line i live right up the street see you hey can you still move you know what chris is in much better shape than i am because he's just like, he climbs mountains. And he's also the guy that's like, if you're going to beat me,

you're like, you're going to have to kill me. That's how Chris, there's guys you've played with that are like that. That's how Chris is. And it's, it's no fun to play against him. You seemed, you're 315. Is that, was that your playing weight? Cause you always, I mean, and this is, you always carried it very well, though.

Like, you always looked very athletic. I don't think you ever looked like a big, fat slob. Well, yeah, I appreciate it. 315, 320 is about where I played at. The heaviest I got to was 352 in the wild card game. I was playing Fletcher Cox, and I said, well, he's big and strong. I might as well just eat everything in sight. I was so tired, bro.

I never looked that heavy eat everything in sight. I was so tired, bro. I never looked at that again. Game 20. The thought of you eating protein, bananas, peanut butter, just all the way. No, no, no, no. Pizza, ranch, burritos, anything, bro. How quickly did you lose that? Pretty quickly afterwards? When I was done playing, I got down to 250 like asap i think it was mostly because like remember in uh where that was

it where the red fern grows the one dog died the other dog couldn't eat that's kind of like when you're done playing football you're not really depressed but there's something missing and you're trying to figure it out i lost so much weight pat it was terrible well rest in peace of that dog by the way and Spoiler alert. Great dog. I never read the barbed wire. Spoiler alert, man. Check the barbed wire there. A lot of offensive linemen go down. Super down.

You see Yonda. Yonda looks like a child at this point. I mean, it's unbelievable how young he looks. You said that he got to the point where you couldn't eat. Is that why you think a lot of guys lose weight? Or has that just become their main focus? They take everything that they had towards football and they're like all right now i'm gonna put it towards health and eating right because some of those transformations alan fanica unbelievable to watch nick hardwick like the list goes on and on

and on but i think honestly it's our body's understanding of what they're we're dealing with on a daily basis and when you're pounding each other and you're just going to pound town on the d- line every single day, your body's like, please give me more fuel. Like I need to repair myself. I need to. And when you're done playing,

you get an opportunity to sleep. You get an opportunity to hang out and your body's kind of like, well, we can repair ourselves now. We don't really have to build all the time, man. You get back to three 50 ever. You trying to get to three 50, bro a 260 right now i'm a 260 right

now i gotta turn back come and see me at the peak can you still do did your has your body healed can you move and play i saw you golfing hey your golf swing really fucking good i thought you should have stuck with that a little bit more seems like you quit on that on social media i'm not sure in real life if you did or not you got a lot of flack for that uh as a matter of fact jay was like hey if you're not in tournaments and winning money you cannot be posting videos every day what are you a fucking professional golf he was like you're a fraud or you're a pro and he was like and if you're if you're not a pro then you need to just post pictures of yourself doing not golf uh kyle we got to get out of here yeah get out of here guys you know i'm almost late for my uh commode so you do have an eight minute time here you don't have a lipper in though so it might

slow if i can run fast well you can. You still got it. You're only 315, 320. You can get it going. You can move it a little bit. We will. We will. You know what? I wish we could do this more often. I love talking to you guys. Big fan of everybody on the show. You guys make it all special over there. Zito.

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We are waiting. What if he, oh, what if somebody got a hold of him? It was like, hey, do not go on the air raid. Come on. By the way, I would be very understanding if that was the case. Yeah. Who would that person be? Who would come after him and say, don't do this?

That's interesting. I assume, what's that? A lawyer, maybe? I would assume a lawyer. Maybe we shouldn't have announced it. You know, because this could potentially make him look better. As soon as I got in trouble, by the way, I got driven home by the same guy that represented Mike Tyson

when he got into a rather serious case here in Indiana. He was the guy that came into the Colts my rookie season and says, if you ever see me again, it's not good. I get escorted out after a public intoxication situation. And I see him standing at the end of the hallway and I go hmm not good obviously we go into the court within the jail there

I'm sitting there next to him he said we're going to get you out of this you know and I go what is this dude like I thought I mean just 12 hours ago I would assume that they would have drove me home and this everything instead I was shackled I was in solitary confinement what the hell did they find on did I have yeah did I have a bunch of drugs what what did they and he goes uh he goes oh you're gonna be okay or whatever and then the judge reads off like hey public intoxication uh and then reads

the could be punished up to I think it was like jail time maybe and i was like what like i actually excuse me and he's like please be quiet we get in the car we're driving he remember has me go out that back door but the media had already learned that i was going out the back door you see because the media was out front he said let's go out the back seems like somebody told the media hey he's going out the back because they were turning the corner as i was going out there i get in his car he hands me a card right and reintroduces himself basically you know we saw i saw you last year at the rookie whatever blah blah blah and on the back of it it says don't say anything so i believe that is probably the person that potentially reached out to adam jones somebody said don't say anything was that printed on his business card or was that something he wrote on the back of it for you it was on his business card it was on his business card he

handed it to me and he was like don't say anything and then he told me your tweets already making grounds and it was uh bye week bye week i said can't wait to enjoy the hell out of you and the local media was like did he enjoy it a little bit too much and he's like you just need to stop talking completely joining us now ladies gentlemen, a man who will hopefully clarify some things that are being said about him. Former Tennessee Titan, Dallas Cowboy, Cincinnati Bengal,

All-American at West Virginia. Top 10 pick, ladies and gentlemen, Adam Pac-Man Jones. What's up, dude? What's up, dude? What's up, brothers? How y'all doing? Okay, so first things first. Last night, well, this morning, we woke up,

and all we see is a headline about Adam Pac-Man Jones. Obviously, salacious headline. Punched a guy, kicked a guy, damn near killed a guy, a lot of people saying. I was getting a lot of tweets, obviously, because you've been on the show. People know that we know each other. And I reach out directly to you. I say, Adam, you all right? You respond, I'm Gucci.

And then I say, will you come on the show? Here you are, Adam. Are you okay? Are you good? You don't look like a guy who seems to be coming out of a massive hangover or anything like that. You seem to be okay. What happened last night? All right. of a massive hangover or anything like that you seem to be okay what happened last night all right

so back on the records you know um the reason why i'm not drinking out in public or doing nothing because of situations like this because normally it's all pack was dead ass drunk or you know i mean so yeah we was at a place a place called clutch and we went in we was having a great time so I go up to the DJ booth to talk to the DJ booth the DJ dude so this one particular bouncer all right so last week we was at another club and this same guy was a drunk, so the security guard put him out. Now, remind you, he's a bouncer at a competitive club, which is Clutch. Okay. All right.

So I'm just giving you a little history of why the hate is going on. Got it. So I go up and talk to the DJ. I got my little brother and one of his friends there and my wife. So as I'm talking to the DJ, I have my back turned. You know what I mean? So like how the club is, you got to step up a step. If I'm talking to the DJ right here,

the club is back here. You get what I'm saying? Yep. Alright, so I'm talking to the DJ asking him to play a couple songs. Now, remind you, I don't get to see what's going on behind me. What songs? Young Thug. TheBaby, Lil Baby, Jacquees. I was trying to get a little Jacquees in there. You know what I'm saying? Valentine's Day. Yeah, gotta do what you gotta do. Love, romance.

Yeah, I'm trying to end the night right. So, I don't get, like, this is my little brother right here what's up man so i can't really see exactly what was going on in back behind me because i was talking to the dj now the the bouncer dude came in like everybody gotta get the out here now remind you my dude just put him out of the spot that we was in last week before that yeah it was almost like a revenge thing but at the time i don't even hear to do what he's saying the because i'm talking to the dj all right so they got whatever going on he he told my my little brother and when i turn around they already on the float so i i i separate them and he said hey y'all want to fight before you say my y'all want to fight

that's when punches and chairs whatever they was throwing and personally i'm done fighting bro like unless somebody want to pay me i'm cool with it i'll fight any celebrity 169 170. but man i got kids i got so much other that i'm working on besides beating the motherfucker up in the club. Okay, so let's talk about this a little bit more because as soon as your name pops up, it seems like the easiest thing to do is here's Pac-Man putting himself in a terrible position. I assume everybody thought you were incredibly drunk as well,

but in this particular... You know for sure, I know, if I was drunk, they would have charged me with what public intoxication which i want to jail for every time i've been drunk they've charged me every freaking time i've never had a time where i haven't been drunk that they didn't charge me for public intoxication okay do you think your reputation precedes you here whenever this whole thing happens like for instance after the fight happens you're the only one that got into any trouble i assume there was numerous people in the fight as you see i'm the only one um they basically i don't know what they called and told the police but i was in my

rose rose head um about to pull out and box in so and i'm the only one got charged with anything So, and I'm the only one that got charged with anything. You were driving the Rolls Royce? Yeah. So you would have got a DUI if you were drunk there. So you didn't get a DUI. Didn't get a DUI. They call, basically probably the club calls, more specifically bouncer calls,

says, hey, this is what happens. You get kind of locked up. The headlines are Adam Pac-Man Jones punches and kicks guy until he's unconscious. But what you're saying is chairs are flying. Fight was already happening. You got dragged into it after separating the two. Yeah. That's a pretty good case.

The bad part about it, like, a lot of people are always cool, Pat. Like, I don't have a problem with going to nowhere in Cincinnati. AJ can amend that for me. But, like, I don't have a problem going nowhere. Like, I don't have a problem with nobody. Like, that's why home is Cincinnati. You get what I'm saying? It's not like I'm running around trying to be something that I ain't.

I'm not on that. You get what I'm saying? Hey, Pat, with all this going on, it sounds like it was obviously very noticeable for the rest of the people. Have you found any footage that would help you out? I'm quite sure it was footage. And it's just show one of me up when it first started and when it ends. Now, I'm going to tell you, I did what I needed to do.

And I ain't boosting the bragging because that ain't where I'm at right now. But, yeah, you should be able to see all of that. Hey, Pac, it shouldn't be my favorite moment, okay? You're electrifying, obviously, on a football field, defense, punt return, offense, and everything like that. But in that article, you know, they go back to previous situations that happened. You in that Popeye's chicken bag in that Atlanta airport. Hey, bro, this is literally like almost like verbatim the same situation, but a different scenario.

Like almost like 100%. What happened in that Atlanta airport? Because it was very obvious on the video that old buddy came, started a fight with you, and then all of a sudden you ended the fight or whatever. And obviously, if you didn't see the video, the headline would be, Adam Pac-Man Jones knocks out Atlanta Airport employee in Atlanta Airport. But really, the video showed you were innocent. The guy came up, started a fight with you.

You did end it. You're saying that's why it's the same situation? Because he came up to start a fight with you, basically, and you ended it. Now you're the bad guy. And what I'm saying is the fight had already started, Pat. Oh, okay. Do you get what I'm saying the bad guy okay yeah yeah yeah when I turn around they on the ground how many chairs they were throwing chairs now you know them bouncing strong as hell I had kind of pick up no chair I might try to grab one of them but I got hit by one do you eat it you just ate

the chair huh i ate it i ate it you know it's the light switch but i do not like to get to those those situations pack you think now this is just this is probably not great to be joking about but you did say you would fight anybody 169 170 uh is that something you think about getting into because it it sounds now media is reporting and obviously their sensation it sounds like you have lightning in your hands it does sound like that is the case now i'm not 100 sure and you also incredible athlete great work ethic have you ever thought about getting into maybe the boxing game or anything like that as many as all the people are kind of starting to get into it well i've been

probably sparring just to make sure my hands was right for at least four or five years now. That was one of my key things. AJ Noah, he's seen me in the gym. Like boxing was one of my key things to keep my hands quick when I'm jamming and stuff like that. But for the right number, yeah, I'll take it. Let's go. Line it up. I'm ready.

Who do you want to fight? Who would be your first choice? I'll be ready. You can beat the shit out up. I'm ready. Who do you want to fight? Who would be your first choice? I'll be ready. You can beat the shit out of Jose Canseco from what I've seen. You can just beat the hell out of Jose Canseco from what I've seen. Pac, I appreciate it. I'll fight Jake Paul. If Jake Paul wants to get down to 165, I'll beat Jake Paul.

Hey, he's been training like three years a day. He's a big boy, too. I don't give a fuck. I don't even train. I don't knock his ass up. You might have to go up. He's big. He's like two.

No, he got to get down. I can't go up. Oh, so you would have to come down. I walk around at 175. All right. Hey, will you? I hope you get out of this, obviously. I hope the truth comes to light.

I hope. It will. Okay, good news. And I can't thank you enough for joining us man stay safe over there love you pat love you aj hey we appreciate and love you too man happy to hear you're okay even after eating a goddamn chair to the head it happens sometimes you know that's a problem hey figure it out yep Yep. Ladies and gentlemen, Adam Packman. Thank you, guys. I mean, that really is a thing, too. With his, you know, resume at a club, Bouncer got kicked out, he said,

a week ago from his place. I mean, it felt like he potentially had a target on him as soon as he gets into a lot of different places. That Atlanta airport one, man, I don't know if you can find the video or not. He's walking with chicken, with his family. Yeah. With his family walking through the airport, and then all of a sudden you see like a worker walk by,

and I think he has headphones. I think Pac even has headphones on, and he does like, what was that? And then the guy like, whoa, whoa, whoa, and just knocks the guy out, like on sight knocked the guy out. It was just like out of nowhere. Just probably was passed out on a plane. Just walks out. All of a sudden, boom, good night.

I hope he gets acquitted in this entire thing. Sounds like a bunch of bullshit if you ask me. Hey, if there's ever an athlete or a celebrity that should go into that celebrity boxing, I would imagine it's Pac-Man. That is the guy. I think he should get into real boxing, I'd assume. People forget that's one of the greatest athletes to ever exist.

What he used to do on a football field, absurd, absolutely absurd. We had a Zoom call with a bunch of West Virginia players at the beginning of this quarantine. Just kind of everybody got in there. It felt like there was like 100 people in there. But it was basically Pac-Man holding court, like talking or whatever. And there was this offensive lineman or maybe a linebacker. I guess it would have had to have been a linebacker who said before games,

Pac-Man would go through the program and see somebody that he thought was weak in their photo, just by their photo. And then during warm-ups, Pac would go out and just test the guy to see if he was right or not. And then all game, it was just like Pac-Man in this guy. He's like just baiting this guy. He was a hard-nosed, badass dude who obviously, his stories have been documented and everything he's been a part of obviously comes from a part of town that not many could ever understand. Gets a lot of money, still had, I think, a bad company around him at that

particular point i assume he's admitted to making a lot of terrible decisions but it feels like as he's grown older here he has tried to make it right almost and he still finds himself in some on you know favorable situations like this yeah one thing you mentioned how like how good of an athlete he was and the things that he could do a big reason why why he was able to do this because pack was one of the hardest working dudes like i've ever seen he's you know when they hear you hear stories about like michael irvin would run full speed for three straight hours in practice you hear stories you're like i don't know that that could be true but i got to watch pack firsthand like going every single day like okay i'm gonna cover aj green and i don't want to let him catch a ball if he does catch a ball i'm gonna be super pissed and he made everyone better like he honestly did he

made the rest of the team better because how hard he would go and how he would hold himself to this super high standard and you had to do the same he was awesome to watch when he was returning and then tennessee they had him on offense a bunch he was running end around i mean it was awesome to watch hell of a career more than 10 years yeah But the one I asked him about here, this is the Atlanta airport situation here. He's just walking. Oh, this is the end of it? This is the end of it. Is it?

Yeah, this is the end of it. Oh, no. Bang, bang. That's his wife there, by the way. Just got off the plane. His wife's like, no on we just dropped the chicken we just got the time he's like excuse me but this guy wants look how much bigger he is than pac by the way reach oh oh he's going he's going imagine the whites at the airport by the way what the fuck is on is that adam batman jones oh man it started though you don't see the start of that thing in the video he was walking old buddy comes over and just

starts pushing him it was finger and face the whole time finally not sure that that's the guy you want to start a fight with but i guess if you want to start a fight with somebody and then have it make news that's probably the right guy to deal with big shout out to him coming on i hope he gets i hope the truth comes out you know whatever i out. I hope there has to be video evidence somewhere. Yeah, at least the tape. Has to be somewhere. He didn't seem too worried. He did not at all.

And by the way, he was driving his Rolls Royce, would have gotten a DUI if he was drunk. So there's a potential thought there that maybe that narrative shouldn't be one that's out there. Because I assumed this morning, as soon as I saw it, I was like, all right, he was obviously drunk at a club, things this happened and he's like i wasn't drinking a damn not at all actually i was just i was trying to get a little love making music in the club yeah hey my wife's here you know my brother yeah we're just having a good time and then turn around your

brother's like a room yeah whoa whoa whoa chairs whoa whoa it's his fault that he's the best in there sometimes that's the problem when you have lightning in your hands, you know? No one talks about it until. Some people aren't ready for the storm. That's right. That's right. Joining us now is an absolute legend in the world of stick and puck. Ladies and gentlemen, NBC NHL analyst, former player, former coach,

former scout, friend of the show, ladies and gentlemen, Pierre Maguire. Hey, Patrick, how you doing? Hey, not too shabby. I see you got some books behind you. What have you been reading? Oh, I've had a lot of time to read. How pumped are you to be out of that bubble that you were forced to live in for six months last year? It was good. It was great to be out of that bubble that you were forced to live in for six months last year? It was good. It was great to be there. I'll be honest with you, Pat.

It was great being in the bubble, but I'm glad now we're actually allowed to go to games. So that's been cool. The weirdest thing, though, Pat, I got to tell you, not having fans in the stands. I did a game in Pittsburgh yesterday. That was bizarre in the world. And earlier in the week, Pat, I did a game in Madison Square Garden. I've been going there for a lot of years. No fans.

Very strange. Okay, so let's talk about that because other sports, UFC, no fans, it almost made the product better, right? Because you could hear each punch land and everything like that. Football, they were piping in fan noise. And if you really kind of disappeared in it, unless they showed the empty stadiums, which started happening towards the end of the season, you could tell, but not really from home. But the players, there's a lot of mic'd up situations. J.J. Watt is talking to a teammate. He's like, you can hear the blimp right now.

That's how quiet it was in the stadiums at home. We didn't know that because the fans are getting piped in through the crowd noise or whatever. In hockey, do you think it's been changing the game at all? Have players had less juice than expected? Because a lot of NFL guys said on the defensive side of the ball without the fans it was kind of hard to get hyped up to go run your face into somebody over and over has hockey seen anything like that or did the bubble kind of prepare them for this type of experience oh that's a good point I think the bubble helped prepare a lot of the players for this that being said it's not normal not that

fan noise and the intimidation factor going into somebody else's building as a visitor. So I would say that's a real good point that the truth of the matter is the fans are missed. The noise level in a lot of these buildings is unbelievably off the charts and not having the fans I think does hurt a little bit

of the enthusiasm, no question. Let's talk about some storylines in the NHL. Pierre, you're the best guy to talk about. You know about everything going on. The Pittsburgh Penguins are still going to win the Stanley Cup. How's that going to happen? They actually have a new management team now with Brian Burke as a president and Ronnie Hextall.

How are you dealing with Ronnie Hextall coming into Pittsburgh? I know, flyers and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. He's won a cup before, but anything about that now. He's on the good side of the state here with the Pittsburgh Penguins, and it felt like we needed him. Get the old ones out. We need a new thing, and it feels like the team is playing inspired hockey, trying to impress the new leadership.

Is that the same feeling you got yesterday? Absolutely. In all seriousness, Pat, I think that Ronnie and Brian are going to do an outstanding job there. They're going to bring a certain dynamic to that team that they need. It's kind of like the 92 team when Craig Patrick went out and got Shel Samuelson and Rick Tockett. That changed the identity of the Pittsburgh Penguins. You brought in some hardcore physical guys with a whole lot of nasty to them. And I think you're going to see Brian Burke and Ron Hextall do a little of that in Pittsburgh. And I think that will be positive

for the program. I thought it was two good hires for the organization, and I do think they'll make a difference. Okay, let's talk about old-school hockey and the current state of hockey right now. A lot of talent on the ice everywhere, okay? I mean, there's a guy named Mick Jesus. I don't know if you guys are allowed to say that on the air, but the Internet says that. Nowadays, with the way hockey is, though, there's no real goons, okay?

It feels like the superstars don't get protected as much as they did in the past. says that. Nowadays with the way hockey is though, there's no real goons. Okay. There's no, it feels like the superstars don't get protected as much as they did in the past. I mean, now I might be completely wrong here, but if you look up footage of the great one or even Mario, there's some space around them because there's people on their team, like protecting them. Basically the game has sped up. The physicality has kind of dissipated a little bit but do you feel like it's fair to judge current players mick jesus maybe if he gets going sydney crosby against the older school of hockey or do you believe that that's kind of a tough comparison with the two different style of play the biggest difference is not having the red line pat without the red line we had the stretch

passes now so there's more flow through the neutral zone so it's really hard to compare from era to era you talk about having the policeman or the guys that used to protect the superstars the officials actually now protect the star players more than ever which is probably a good thing not a bad thing so we don't have as much vigilante justice going on on the ice oh batman one thing i would say is there's still room for old-time hockey if you watch the broons and the new york rangers this past friday night that was a whole lot of nasty pat i mean there were fights there were hits there was dirty plays there was the unbelievable skill there was great goal there was everything you want in a

hockey game but it was old school um who's gonna win the staley cup is obviously the penguins seriously there are a ton of teams that can vegas is good colorado is good uh boston bruins are good philadelphia flyers are good washington capitals if they can get their goaltending situation sorted out they're good tampa bay the defending champs they're good don't forget your pittsburgh penguins i think they've still got an opportunity here they're gonna have to work some things out defensively uh with bodies and also in goal i think but i think they're still in the discussion as well is letang broken did you talk to him what's going on with the hashtag trade letang

was trending in pittsburgh he's a guy who's been around the penguins for a long time has won cups with the penguins very handsome by the way he is beloved in pittsburgh strictly because his hair is great and his hockey but he seems like he's's broken. And our goalie, Jari, somebody just needs to play catch with that guy. It feels like he has a little bit of an issue with the glove side. Is that ever going to get fixed in Pittsburgh, do you think? I think Mike Buckley, the goalie coach, can fix Tristan Jari. I think Christian Jari will get fixed. In terms of Christopher Letang, Pat, the big thing is nobody talks about it.

This is a man that's had devastating injuries. When he was 25 years of age, he had a stroke, Pat. I mean, you know, we're not talking about run-of-the-mill type injuries, you know, so it's not easy. Is he as good as he used to be? No, he's not. Is he still a serviceable player? Yeah, he is.

What's been the biggest moment of the year thus far, are you thinking? How deep are we in and how much further do we have shortened season this year right yeah 56 games biggest problem so far and the biggest storyline is guys getting into rhythm because of covid it's been a big problem yeah the dallas stars missed like the first month of the season right that whole thing it's not really being talked about much but will they make up those games or will they just kind of do what the mlb did and just be like, okay, we have enough games to judge who should be in the playoffs. Are they planning on making up every single game?

They are planning on making up every single game. How's that going to happen? They're just going to extend the season longer? They're going to play a lot of games. There's about a two-week window where they give themselves a little bit of leeway where they can make it up. How do the coaches and players feel about this year traveling around? Are they a little bit tired?

Do they have the same rules as the NBA guys where at the away hotels you're not even allowed to eat at the diner basically, don't go to the lobby? You can't have your teammates up to your room. You can't do anything. I can tell you just from when we travel, we travel, we're not allowed to ride in the same car, can't ride in the same car to the rink. Got to go back to your room. If you stand in the lobby, you got to social distance 68 feet.

Go after hours stuff. So, no, it's really strict for everybody. I really commend the players and the coaches and the organizations around the league. They're doing everything they can to make this safe. But it's not easy. It's really, really tough, especially when you're traveling all over North America. Host of That's Hockey Talk, Nick Moroto. Pierre, are we going to get the Tahoe games on schedule?

I saw you guys highlighting them building the rink out there on yesterday's game, but there were some questions about the team's COVID-related issues. Might not be able to make it. Yeah, that's a good question, Nick. I don't know. I was traveling today, so I don't know what the final outcome is, but it sure sounds like everything's a go from what I heard yesterday. You guys just putting that rink right on the fairway.

That's what it looked like yesterday watching that game. Yeah, they're putting it right up on the fairway, exactly. What a view that's going to be. It's going to be spectacular. By the way, brilliant being like, hey, listen, we're probably not going to have fans, so instead of sitting in front of an empty stadium that would be grand, let's go ahead and put this in the most pristine view

that we could potentially find. We're going to put it in Lake Tahoe right on a fairway where there's just mountains and everything. That's going to be gorgeous. Two games, right, back-to-back? Yeah, you've got Colorado and Vegas, and you've got Boston and Philly. Teams that don't like each other. Boston doesn't like Philly either. Pittsburgh hates them.

Philly stinks. No, they don't like them. Hey, Bruins are unbelievable. How do you feel about the new align, the divisions here that's happening? The Canadian squad and then we're linked up with the Bruins now at some point. And then there's teams getting easy way out, getting put in another division.

How do you feel about the realignment that had to happen due to COVID? I think it's good for one year, Pat, but I don't think it's something we want to go to long term, obviously. I think for this year, it's an imperfect solution to an imperfect problem. It really is. They're doing the best they can, but I can't see this lasting for more than this year. What would your message be to your team if you were coaching right now for the boys to kind of, you know, keep their eyes on the prize here and not kind of get distracted

while traveling around the entire thing? You know, that's a fair question, too. And I think the biggest thing is trying to get your players into rhythm. And so your practices have to be fast and hard, but not really long. You've got to make sure your guys really feel like they're part of something special. I would try to create that, Pat. But to me, the biggest thing is trying to generate enthusiasm because there are no fans in the stands. You've got to try as a coaching staff and as players to try to generate as much

enthusiasm as possible for your group. Are you still in between the glass? Yeah, but you know what? We are in a glass bubble. So it's a lot different. It really is, Pat. So everybody's kind of in between the glass, I guess. But you're actually north, south, east, and west inside.

Have you seen some teams be better at the self-generated fake hype than others? And has that benefited their team? Absolutely. I would say one team that's really good at it, Boston Bruins. They're a really comfortable young team. I'll tell you another team that's real good at it, Tampa Bay. They won the championship last year. They're very good at generating enthusiasm.

And your Pittsburgh Penguins, the last two games have been outstanding generating enthusiasm. You heard it. What do you got, Diggs? Pierre, how do we work the Zibanejad and Marshawn not leaving the ice, rock, paper, scissors into the game more? Yeah, what was that, too? Is that something that always

happens? I see this in baseball when the starting lineup's like that one person will stand on the thing until the other person does. Does this happen every game? And I'm a hockey aficionado, so obviously I know, but the people have questions. Yeah, no, it happens from time to time and team to team. I think the interesting thing is guys like to shoot pucks into the empty net of the opposition. So sometimes players will stay out longer so the guys can't shoot it into the empty net.

And that's where you get some issues, Pat. So I like the fact that time-honored tradition, who's going to be the last one off the ice there, that's after warm-ups before the game starts, I assume? Yeah, exactly. But even they know rock, paper, scissors is end all, be all. You know what I mean? Like I have respect for the fact that they had respect for

amongst the respect thing that they were in. That rock, paper, scissors is the end all be all here. Congrats to whoever won that, by the way. That's a big time game. I mean, a lot of eyes

on that rock, paper, scissors contest right there. Who won? Did the team win that won the rock, paper, scissors as well? The New York Rangers lost to the Boston Bruins. So who won the, New York Rangers won the Rock, Paper, Scissors as well? The New York Rangers lost to the Boston Bruins.

So who won the New York Rangers won the? Rangers did. So maybe that tradition doesn't matter. Connor, what do you have? Yeah, Pierre, you alluded to the old school type of game, the Bruins-Rangers game was. And one of the fights that they had was just right off the face off. Do you hear those conversations?

And what do they say to each other? Just like, hey, fuck you, let's fight right now? I don't hear that language sometimes, yeah. More times than not, what you hear from guys, you want to go? Let's go. Sometimes it's a carryover from a game before, but a lot of times it's guys that have had some animosity over the course of time, but more times than not,

they just say, hey, let's go. You ready to go? Let's go. So they probably know going into the game that they're probably going to fight the person? That's interesting. Yes. Okay, so they're sitting there waiting for a face-off normally, like you said, Derek, in that particular fight. And the two that are lined up next to each other, going into the game,

they both had the mindset that we're probably going to end up fighting each other here? Probably, yeah. It's called setting the table, yeah had the mindset that we're probably gonna end up fighting each other here probably yeah it's called setting the table yeah oh that's awesome imagine going into a game all right i'm fighting a guy you're gonna score no idea but i know i'm fighting a guy as soon as we can get to the face off and then you just sit there and such an honorable conversation you know like hey you want to go yeah you do all right let's let everybody know this doesn't matter we are about to brawl as soon as that puck because everything stops you know i think that's my You know, like, hey, you want to go? Yeah, you do? All right, let's let everybody know. This doesn't matter. We are about to brawl as soon as that puck, because everything stops, you know? I think that's my favorite.

Now, it kind of left the game a little bit. It felt like fighting was trying to get pushed out of the game. It became a five-minute major with this, and you have to do this and do this. They tried to break it down as much as possible. But at the heart of hockey, I do believe there is a chance to set the table or fighting will always live on. I like the fact that there's still a little bit of, you know, hey, stick taps, we'll sit around and watch these two guys just throw hands at each other.

I think it was that the Rangers room, there was a couple big connections. Guy went down, by the way. Normally it's over, gets back up, eats another one, then goes back. I mean, there's some good scraps popping off right now in hockey. Oh, yeah, no question about it. Again, I think the one thing the Rangers are trying to establish is an identity with a very young team, and I think they're doing a good job of that.

Their refill is well on track, and I think for Boston, they're one of the marquee teams in the league, and those guys understand what it takes to compete at a high level. So that's why you get that kind of stuff too. Diggs? Pierre, have you seen – has it been a little more chippy because I've seen like a couple times because of rescheduling and COVID, the teams were playing four or five times in a row.

Yeah, how about Arizona and St. Louis? I think it's seven times in a row. It's just crazy. It's like a playoff series. So the answer is yes, and this is building up to some deep-seated animosity between a lot of teams um you know it's just otto is going into toronto they're going to play three times this week you know it's just crazy pierre mbc sports network rest in peace how to help yeah thank you you did a lot of great work in there pierre i want to let you know that

a lot of great work with mb Network and NBC's NHL coverage. That's potentially going to move away from NBC. Are you a package deal with the NHL? No, I have a year left on my deal. So we'll see what happens. We'll see what happens. Oh, you're going to get traded. Pierre's going to get traded.

What do you want if Pierre gets traded? You should say right now that the offensive line for NBC has not protected you, and you want to get the hell out of town, and you're looking to be traded. What would you take away in the Super Bowl, Pat? Tom Brady, just for whatever reason. I was getting messages during the week from people down there in Tampa that I'm good friends with that I've been around. They're like, you should just see this guy. Just lock it.

Like, I guess the week of the Super Bowl, I've told this story before, I held for Adam Vinatieri for a long time, and there'd be, you know, kicks in our relationship, and how we would go about going onto the field, it'd be a jokey, light, because you're kind of like the caddy, and then when it came to a game winning kick, the first time I was there for a game winning kick, I looked back at Adam, and normally I say, hey, you ready, old man? And he'd give me like uh yeah buddy or whatever I say like you ready old man and there isn't a sound back there so I turn around and I look and it was like this ice man almost was like he was just like completely locked in I was like oh okay all right this is oh this is why you're Adam Vinatieri let's hope I don't mess this up because I do not have that same mood and I got something to do here I guess Tom Brady playoffs in the Super Bowl week it was just like a completely different person and the Patriot

way you know for a long time was nothing you know the season doesn't really start till the playoffs and I guess what everybody has said down in Tampa is like when the playoffs started the Tom Brady effect really started taking everybody Everybody's expectations were raised. Accountability was raised. Let's go ahead and do this and this. So I think that was my biggest takeaway, plus the fact that the paparazzi parlay, Antonio Brown, Rob Gronkowski, Leonard Fournette scoring touchdowns, hit for me and I won $25,000.

So if the tails doesn't come, thank you, Pierre. If tails doesn't come, if tails comes and i hit that parlay i have a 55 000 super bowl that's my biggest takeaway is that the coin toss was rigged but tom brady's the greatest how about you my biggest takeaway was the start of the third quarter ali marpet running to his right the left guard what. What a great block. Leonard Fournette going for the touchdown. Hobart College, the earliest rated Division III player ever drafted in the NFL draft. That's my takeaway. Did you go to that school? I did.

I played football there, too. What'd you play, quarterback? I died in high school. I did defensive back in college. Athlete. What'd you play, quarterback? I died in high school. I did defensive back in college. Athlete. When I saw Ali Marpet throw that block, I was like, man, look at that guy move. That's a big guy running real fast. Yeah, and I do like the fact that you kind of shoehorned this conversation in

so you could shout out the school you went to. I do like that a lot, Pierre. I appreciate you. Pierre, I can't thank you enough for the time that you spend with us. We obviously don't cover hockey for our entire show. Every time you come on, I can't thank you enough for the time that you spend with us. We obviously don't cover hockey for our entire show. Every time you come on, I feel like I get caught up with everything and I feel like I'm even more excited for the NHL

season because of you. So I hope you stick with the NHL wherever the hell it goes. Thanks a lot, Patrick. I appreciate it. Take care of yourself. Really good visiting with you. Ladies and gentlemen, Pierre Maguire. Yeah! So sorry to interrupt, but I want to let you know that if you're not gambling with Fandle, Pierre Maguire. There we are. So sorry to interrupt, but I want to let you know that if you're not gambling with Fandle, you're wrong.

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Thank you. And also with you, Connor. You too. Big happy President's Day to the guy that's about to join us from Ohio. Ladies and gentlemen, former Buckeye, won a national championship with them. Former Packer and Bengal and Falcon. from Ohio, ladies and gentlemen, former Buckeye, won a national championship with them, former Packer and Bengal and Falcon, ladies and gentlemen, AJ Hawk. What's going on, AJ?

What's going on, man? Have you calmed down? I saw the beginning of the show. I was getting attacked. I like it, man. I think it's good. You're showing a little passion. Well, it's not a little passion.

I was having a great fucking weekend, though, and all of a sudden I got this shit popping off where they're just taking clips out of context and trying to bury me. It's like, all right, I don't normally go into things like this, but I was having a great Valentine's Day. I was having a great day. Made heart-shaped pizzas, heart-shaped steaks. Okay, we made a hand mold. I was having the day of my life with my wife,

and then all of a sudden I just started getting attacked by these people because of the way clips were edited and placed in a fashion to paint a narrative. That's completely bullshit. And I normally don't like to do this because it's a little bit negative or whatever. But I finally, this morning, as we're going live on air, I said, fuck it. I'm not, I'm not happy about this. I'm going to take a stand for myself. And which normally I'm just like, ah,, bygones be bygones. But fuck that entire Twitter account, to be honest. I guess I need to go look to see what this person was saying to you. Are you really that upset that they think your take on the Raiders is bad?

No, no, no. But, I mean, I did have a great day on Twitter yesterday, and then littered in between there would be some Raiders stooge coming in. Like, blah, blah, blah. It's like, all right, that's not even an actress. I don't really care that much. I mean, a little bit. I mean, it got a lot out of me, I guess.

I mean, I got a lot out of me. But Valentine's Day, I get two random calls from local stooges wanting me to do something. Then I got Raiders people coming after me. It's like, hey, I'm trying to have a goddamn day with my wife, okay? Can we think about romance for one second, AJ? You know what I mean? I guess.

I mean, you could also say like, hey, you could think about romance if you just put your phone on the charger and didn't look at it. That's another way you could handle it. Yeah, but how will people know what I'm watching? Good point. Great point. We'll give and take. I guess that's your life, man.

What we have to remember is if i don't tweet about it there's a good chance that i won't remember it whenever this show comes to be so the boys foxy digs i kind of send out tweets and they're foxy's like okay gotta find pictures for this mitt starts putting together graphics for the show it's kind of like it's almost like that's our pre-show it's like hey this what's going on. Elisa Lam, rest in peace. Okay, no spoilers, but kind of could have only been one episode. You know, I got to put out a tweet about the Cecil Hotel. So it's like, okay, this is what I was doing this week. Brittany was alarmed.

That Brittany doc was alarming. Okay, so now the boys know, okay, probably should know about this. It's kind of like research throughout the day. And then as I get on my phone, I start going through, you know, some people will tweet me interesting things. I got all these raiders people coming after me i'm like what the fuck is this all of a sudden normally my internet is a pretty positive place and then you know on the day of love and romance and you know something that's supposed to be positive you know a made-up holiday that is turned into this incredible day was ruined by this one Twitter account.

And that's why I had to do what I had to do. And that's why I have to tweet. It's for the good of the show, the same one that you appear on every day. So maybe a little bit more respect for the show, AJ Hawk. I saw where you were going with that. And you know what? It makes sense that that's how it works.

It helps you out in multiple ways. You can tweet. You give this great information out to people, all your followers, and then all of the boys can say, all right, this is what his brain is going over. We know it's going to be erased from his brain in six seconds from now, so let's document this.

It makes a lot of sense, but where did you – I didn't see where – did you tweet about Mitch McConnell shoving his 75-year-old body climbing into the side of a NASCAR door? Who did that one? It's funny you say that. I did not watch the end of it. I didn't even know Mitch McConnell was a race car driver until this morning. We had to do him.

What's that? He's not. Yeah, funny. He's kind of built like a turtle, to be honest, which is the complete opposite of NASCAR. You think real slow, real fast. You know what I mean? It's two different things, settings on my lawnmower that I have. That is commercial Z-turn.

It's like turtle at the beginning, and then they have NASCAR at the top. It's two polar opposites. I was confused as well. I did not know that Mitch McConnell was a NASCAR driver until Diggs told me this morning when we recorded Hammered Down before the show instead of after the show because we have to get home immediately following this show because it is coming down out there. Tease and peace, by the way, to all the boys getting home because we are leaving immediately following this show

because it's supposed to just keep dumping. So he said it on Hammer Down. I don't want to point fingers, but there was one person that said that, and Diggs knows that if you put something in there, I mean, it's going to stick around. That's just the way it goes. So what is the guy's name that actually won the race? Mitch McDowell.

Michael McDowell. Okay. I didn't know it was actually that that close to mitch mcconnell so but yeah i don't know i i heard it was great when i saw the part where dig said oh uh no finding out he was the uh well i i knew that i i knew that i was incorrect when we recorded hammer town i didn't know Pat was going to take that information, which I should have known, should have known, and then say it on his show. So I had to then quickly look,

because I thought it was originally from Wedding Crashers. Mitch McDonald, Mitch whatever it is, is not from Wedding Crashers. Mitch McConnell? I don't know. Which was which? Now, Mitch Loschletter is, I believe. Mitch Comstein is what it was.

Excuse me? He was night putting. Okay. Anyways, we have a couple rules that we live by here in this show, okay? And this is kind of, and by the way, Diggs gave his best effort. Hey, that's the best answer I heard all morning. Nobody else is telling fucking Mitch McDowell's name around, okay? If Kozlowski would have just finished it out, we would have been fine.

No kidding. Kozlowski dropped a great joke during the pre-show, the pre-race show or whatever. He was talking about how Fox is incredibly innovative. You know, they had the puck low thing and everything like that. Today, they had a glass window up that separated him from the interviewer, and he said that was innovative, and then he went along. And immediately following that interview, I think Clint Boyer buried him. I think it clint boyer was like oh i see keselowski's trying out new jokes

or whatever it was it was very i enjoyed watching yesterday okay and keselowski i immediately became a fan of every other driver as soon as he said that the comment he said or whatever but it's nice to know that he was in it towards the end i would have known him this mcdowell character 370 races guys never won he's winning daytona all of a sudden what a fucking american dream good for mitch hey didn't they what happened like two teammates who whose fault was it that wrecked somebody else at the very end so logano and uh there was like what 1 a.m when this was happening so it was hard i kind of caught up.

Two teammates crashed each other, caused a big one. Mitch McConnell snuck in through the middle, got a big win. He wins the Daytona. Kyle Busch probably going to go on and win that thing if that doesn't happen. The Candyman, you know, in 18 or whatever, he probably goes on to win that. The only race he hasn't won, by the way, is the Daytona. I thought it was the right time for him to come in there and do that. But, yeah, crash has gotten away, which, by by the way to ty's point in the group text yesterday those crashes

that look very terrible is a big reason why a large majority of people this is why we watch you know i mean you hate to see it hey everyone was okay though but it did i mean there was at one point one of those crashes it looked like six or seven of those cars exploded it's just like there's no way these guys bodies aren't just charred and then they just pop out like nothing happened and they're good i was watching nascar yesterday and i was actually watching it like actually watching it and kind of intrigued my wife who's a die-hard indycar fan because she's from indianapolis normally shits on nascar you know because they're much slower cars are going like 40 to 50 mile an hour slower than indy cars are in the indy car rockets that people get in it's just i mean nascar

drivers also insane but if you have never seen indy car it's two different styles of racing in indy car the indy 500 here in indianapolis where 300 400 000 people flock to indiana watch this thing they are actually strapping themselves to rockets and then they're just driving and those things explode to fucking they go to the nascar race yesterday i was watching my wife also watching i was like thoroughly intrigued by it i was enjoying it i was having a blast watching it and i was like you know why i'm actually giving this like any time of day because the quarantine i think set us up to be like hey anything is better than nothing. And I was, like, actually digesting that NASCAR race yesterday,

and I'm like, you know what? Maybe I'll watch another one this year. Maybe I will give this thing a go. If they race at 10 o'clock at night when nothing else is really on, except for Lakers-Denver or whatever, like, that's a good idea too. Maybe they get the midnight train going, you know what I mean? Do that whole thing. But I will watch NASCAR, I think, this year,

and I think it's because of the quarantine, where we didn't have shit to watch for so long i mean that i feel like maybe early on remember when they what did the espn start to air early on the quarantine everyone was so pumped baseball from some korea the dinosaurs by the way they don't fuck around you do not bet against the dinosaurs in the korean baseball organization but how long did the excitement last for that like a day and a half maybe? No, it was two weeks. It was two weeks. And the reason why the excitement completely wore off for that one is they all stunk at baseball.

And I think that is potentially a little bit troubling. And baseball is a tough sport to watch and begin with, let alone when they stink. Right, Todd? Yeah, I mean, every single one of the guys was basically throwing, you know, like 87, 88 miles miles an hour and it's like every once in a while they're being american in there that guy's always really good but he kind of washed out from the majors so it wore out when you don't know who any of the guys are it's tough to care that's why kyle bush needs to start winning because i know who kyle is and i'll stay invested now if these mitch mcconnell likes keep winning i'll probably have to turn it off but i maybe Mitch McConnell becomes the guy this year.

Yeah, he could be. Maybe we're witnessing the birth of a brand-new driver, McDowell. What an amazing second career for McConnell there, huh? I did see who Mitch McConnell was via Zetographic. He looks like a NASCAR driver, doesn't he? That was not the guy that won the Daytona 500 yesterday. We were wrong on that one. But the brain, by the way, if something's said,

it is a sponge. So I have to pick and choose who I listen to talk, what I see, you know, because if it gets in there, it's going to be in there. When's it going to come out? Nobody knows, but it's going to come out at some point, which is, I'm like a child that's learning words, you know? Can't really say things around me. I'm going to repeat them.

That's just how it is. Always been this way. It's how I got through school. I'd listen to people talk about something. Okay, I'm going to remember that exactly, word for word. Let's hope that they don't fuck me over. It got me through school and everything like that. It also is potentially a downfall

of this show. If it gets in there, it's coming out. That's why there's a lot of discipline by the boys i appreciate the boys uh before the show when we're walking in here you got there's probably a couple jokes that potentially want to be made or you know ridiculous statements but they know if that goes out it's probably gonna come out again you know what i mean in the hey what did you say no no no that wasn't we avoid those things that's why you gotta watch who you let in aj you gotta watch who you let in aj

you gotta watch who you let in for instance i got all the faith in the world and digs digs does so much research okay literally digs does so much research he knows a lot of what's going on so whenever he drops a mitch mcconnell out there i'm like fucking lock it in i didn't expect that to be the guy's name either and you can see how our show potentially stinks and sucks sometimes, like today. I'm normally very careful. You have to be. The snow's got me all giddy. COVID cowboy about to take the pony out in there.

This must be seven to eight inches right now out here. Yeah, I guess they're in Ohio. There was a little bit last night, and then it's supposed to start. I think it's about to start now in snow all night. You got to keep them windshield wipers up, by the way. Last night I had to go out to the truck, lift the windshield wipers up. I did put windshield wiper fluid in the truck last week. Nice.

Yeah, it doesn't work. Something must have happened from a tub of shit to actual windshield. Can't get there. I just held that thing in there. I'm like, what? Do you have a clog? You think? I thought it was potentially frozen and broke. can't get there i'll just hold that thing in here i'm like what do you got clogged just dumped in you think i thought potentially frozen and broke you may have poured it you may have poured the

fluid into the wrong tank man it wasn't me it was tim i was gonna say i saw tim doing it he won't make no he wouldn't make that no no no tim would never do that no no did you ever is your truck too big to pull in the garage? Yeah, yeah. The Bentley sits outside. Right now, Bentley's just collecting ice. What's in the garage? Stairmaster, obviously. Tesla. Motors.

A dirt bike I've never been able to turn on. Golf cart. Motorcycle. Golf cart. But not the Bentley or the truck or the Audi that the wife drives. Or the Shelby. Or the Shelby. Shelby's sitting outside too. Oh, shit.

Shelby's in trouble. That thing's probably not going to be able to start. Does your dad come? What's that? Does Tim come over and make sure everything's all right and start the cars every once in a while and get all your stuff running? No, no, no. Tim doesn't touch the cars.

He would, by the way. If I was to give him a car,'d be like let me rebuild this thing he loves doing that i just let him sit you know i rest them i rest them through the winter they hibernate in the in the driveway and then we just move along you know what i mean there's there's great people cars just come do the whole thing with that the shelby i haven't been in in years i have not driven that thing in years i should put that away because the meekum auctions i've been watching that now because you know now that there isn't. I should put that away because the Mecham auctions, I've been watching that now because now that there isn't live sports on as much

and by the way, Hulu doesn't have live sports. I was on Hulu the other day. Couldn't find a fucking thing. I know they don't just have live sports. It's a lifestyle. Shout out to Dame. By the way, Dame time last night over Dallas. He's a great rapper. That's a good thing. I didn't have my cable this weekend. I went

to Hulu. They have live sports. I couldn't find a fucking thing over there. So shout out to Hulu doing that entire thing. I have no idea where we're headed. No idea. Liars, huh? Mecham Auction. Oh, yeah.

I've been watching a lot of that. I've been watching a lot of Mecham Auctions. There was a car that went for maybe $1.4 million the other day. Damn. Some Ferrari or Lambo. I forget what it was. It's probably Enzo Ferrari. It was a 2017.

It was souped up. It looked like a Batmobile. As soon as I stroll across, I'm like, happy I'm not there with a paddle. That thing's coming home. Could never drive it in Indiana. Potholes here are very bad, but it would have been nice. AJ, you collect cars?

I do not. No, It's not really my thing. You just have one car and it's a lease from that Ohio State Legend dealership? Oh, yeah. Right now, it's a rotating... I got a backup cam now. I didn't have a backup cam on my last vehicle. I love cars. He has the slingshot

that he fucking just rips around in the summertime. He wanted to give to us during the winter. AJ Hawk will have it for the three months of summer and then we're wondering as soon as winter came if you would like to take it. And by the way, it's for free. You're welcome. It has no roof and it has rear wheel drive. Only

one rear wheel and you will be on ice. But it's free. Just give us a little bit of love. AJ loves it. AJ tweets about it all the time little bit of love aj loves it aj tweets about it all the time what was that all about i tweeted about it once i did what was required to have that thing for a couple months it was fun i mean i wouldn't i have no need to have one but it was cool to have how about in the winter is that a good car for the winter it's not it's not a good car if it's below like 60 degrees buying in your your six inches off the ground too oh yeah because you are riding

real low i'll never buy one just strictly because they wanted us to have it in the middle of winter and acting like they were doing us a favor yeah come on hey thanks dude appreciate that actually the other one i like the uh the inverted one um there's a bike that's kind of built like the uh oh yeah what's it called it's called something i. I was going to buy it. Two in the front? Yeah. T-Rex? No, I forget what its name is. Isn't that what 70-year-olds throw a lady to the back and go around the country?

So the trikes, like the geezer glider is what they call them. Two in the back, one in the front, right? And back in the day, I used to have a neighbor that had one of those that would ride it in his backyard. Them sons of bitches flip, okay? If you really want to get those going, the two in the back, you used to have a neighbor that had one of those that would ride it in his backyard. Them sons of bitches flip. If you really want to get those going, the two in the back, you can kind of get it. You can do that whole thing. But then Pan. Can-Am.

Can-Am came around and flipped the game out. I wanted to buy one of those because it looked like that donut's on that thing. With two in the front, you could probably, you know what I mean? Yeah. Some good ones. Let's do that thing. What about that dirt bike? You don't want to get someone over there to check it well you know at this point the battery's been dead since day one of owning it and i do not have the battery jumper for that thing and to be honest i don't know how to get to it i think it's it's

pretty deep down inside of the bike which is is, as you probably guessed it, problematic. That thing has not, it is brand new. That thing has 0.0 miles on it. It was an incredible gift. Because all I wanted to do was, I wanted to come down through downtown Indianapolis, Rough Riders Anthem. You know, with a wheelie going down the middle of downtown Indianapolis. My wife bought it for me for Christmas, was like, here you go. This is fun.

And I have not been able to start it one time, probably for the betterment of everybody in here, if I had to guess. What's that, Nick? Remember when AJ had that slingshot and he was going to let us borrow it in like December? Oh, no. Oh, no, Nick. I was sending a tweet.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Nick was working. Nick was working. Hey, baby, Nick. Sorry, I just didn't want to miss my chance to get a dig in. Yeah, yeah. You did, though, by the way. You did miss.

We were all kind of. And I'm bummed that you missed that, to be honest, because that is a real shining time for you every single day. Yeah. You're lucky this time, Hawk. Someone in the back room should help Jack. Speaking of people that didn't deserve a shot, Ariel Helwani, friend of the show.

Listen, we're okay with Ariel coming on here and smacking him in the mouth a little bit. Oh, yeah. You know what I mean? When he comes in here and starts, you know, he got a shot taken at him out of nowhere. He was just kind of, I assume he was just hanging out or whatever. For whatever reason, he's not on ESPN's UFCc coverage which he's like the biggest mma guy out there and he works at espn ufc so he's not on there a couple other guys were i mean i'm sure they do their job great but it would have been nice as i was watching the prelims on saturday night before uzman ends that

fight in the third round and i make four thousand dollars off it because i'm an mma sharp at this point but as i'm watching they cut to like a studio show and Ariel's not there, I'm like, this makes no sense. Why would you not have Ariel on there? And then as I'm learning about this thing, he and Dana, I guess that is a very deep, deep, deep dislike. I don't think Ariel deserved that shot. I feel like ESPN should have potentially been like, Hey, this is our guy. I understand UFC is our guy. Maybe, maybe we can, can you know maybe we can get this thing back together but i don't like it ariel's just taking those ricochet shots out of nowhere he's our guy aj if i want to bury ariel i feel like that you know that's okay but i'm low man stooge okay whenever like he starts taking

shots i didn't like that you know especially Ariel. I think he didn't want to talk about the Gina situation. I watched that whole video because I mean, there was people sending out tweets like we're on team Ariel and everything like that. I'm like, what the fuck happened? I actually, I actually called Ariel and I was like, well, are you okay? I thought he was potentially like, you know, going through like COVID or something like, I'm like, are you okay? Like, what is everybody? And he gave me the whole rundown and then I went back and watched it. I was like, oh, okay. So this is just kind of a shot out of nowhere

for a guy, Ariel. Well, that's Dana. That's how Dana's brain works, don't you think? They ask him a question and he's like, oh, how about Ariel? Making it all about himself. Caught him a douche. Their rift goes back sometime. Dana's gone at him many times.

Like, it just always seems to happen, especially when Ariel would, like, grab the mic and ask a question in a press conference back in the day. Well, I just want to let everybody know, I'm on Ariel's side. And I believe that particular situation is, like, everything Ariel has to talk about. It was a fighter.

It involved the Holocaust. It involved a fighter. It involved the Holocaust. It involved a lady that he had done work. I feel like as a Jewish MMA journalist, he probably had to talk about that. Now, the way he went about talking about it, maybe people are like, shouldn't have done it. But like, yo, that feels like, I don't know. I hope they get along there someday.

Let's put our swords down, huh? We can help each other out. Seriously. Seriously. Seriously. I mean, seriously. Thanks for listening. Hey, thank you for listening.

I will say thank you to the people that take time out of their day to listen to our shit every single day for the rest of time. I know that you don't have to listen to us. The fact that you allow us into your daily rotation, I am eternally grateful for. Ty, please be safe today. Can't wait to get back tomorrow. Big thank you to all the boys, all of our guests, all of you. Be safe tonight. Enjoy a little snowed-in Monday wherever

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