The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 357 - Carson Wentz Is Officially A Colt, Adam Thielen, Marcus Peters, Ty Dillion, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: February 18, 2021

On today's show, AJ Hawk guest hosts in studio, but Pat FaceTimes in to react to the news that Carson Wentz is officially coming to the Colts for a 3rd round pick and a 2nd round pick that conditionally could become a 1st. Joining Pat and AJ on the show is 2x Pro Bowler, All-Pro, one of the best WR's in the NFL, and friend of the program, Adam Thielen to chat about his season, his new gym, and much more (23:06-37:11). Next, joining AJ is 2015 NFL DROY, 3x Pro Bowler, 4x All-Pro, CB for the Baltimore Ravens, Marcus Peters joins the show to chat about his season, style of play, how he likes to talk shit, dancing on the Titans logo, and almost burning down Marshawn Lynch's house (38:43-1:05:47). Later, Pat and AJ welcome in NASCAR Cup series driver Ty Dillon to chat about everything going on in NASCAR and tries to educate everyone about the sport as things start to heat up in their season (1:07:10-1:37:07). Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow and listen every day on Mad Dog Radio, Sirius XM Channel 82. We appreciate you all for listening, come and laugh with us, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello, it is Thursday, February 18th. This is the Pat McAfee show. Obviously, Pat is not here. He is on a beach somewhere right now, but AJ Hawk guest hosts the show today, but Pat joins us right away to talk about the biggest news. Carson Wentz is coming to the Colts, plus a couple of great guests.

It's a fun show today. Let's get to it. There's been some absolutely blockbuster news that has just come in, just hit the wire. Man, sorry, I'm not sure if we have Pat yet, but I know he will be joining us from wherever location he is. But I think most people should know this by now. Carson Wentz, he's being traded right here to the indianapolis coast

so pat's been he's been dreaming this he's been fantasizing about this for so long so i think we got pat down pat what do you think man your guy is coming unfortunately you're out of town you missed it but he is here he is coming to indy to save the day how do you feel well carson wentz and aj hawker in indianapolis at the same damn time that's a crazy time to be alive i appreciate what you're doing for the show today you look fantastic behind the desk don't ruin anything i got on there it is in pristine order there my friend now okay caution wentz okay when you dive deep into the Okay. Carson Wentz. Okay. When you dive deep into the annals of things that have come out of my mouth, Carson Wentz to the Indianapolis Colts was never something that I talked positively about. Okay.

It was on the wall, basically, no matter where you looked in Indy, that Carson Wentz was probably going to end up in Indianapolis Colt last year while the year was unfolding after Jalen Hurts gets drafted in the second round Carson Wentz's you know feelings get hurt he gets on a football field completely forgets how to play football made people think like is this guy going to retire then you start hearing rumors come out that no no Carson Wentz isn't going to retire. Phil Rivers might, though, after this year. So then you start putting the pieces together. You're like, oh, no.

Phil Rivers sails off into the sunset. The easy choice here with the relationship that they say is beyond repair with the Carson Wentz and the Philadelphia Eagles, it seems like his ass is probably bringing his 12-gauge shotgun right out to Indianapolis to shoot some ducks. This was something that was, it was, I'm sorry, it's very breezy now. It's a cold chill down here. It's a cold chill down here, okay?

But this is something that everybody had been talking about for a long time, and for me, with the way Chris Ballard has manipulated the salary cap in such brilliant fashion for all these years where he had patience, where he said, I want to build my culture first. He said, just we want to build a culture. He had a hundred and some million a couple of years ago, chose not to spend any of it. You bring in Quentin Nelson, you bring in Darius Leonard, you have a young core that's going to build a culture in there. He said that's what he wanted to do first. And the team just so happened to get incredible at football.

The offensive line mauls people. The defense flies around. The only missing piece for the 2021 Colts team looked to be a quarterback. And with the way the money was set up for the Colts, if we could spend some money, I don't know, Matthew Stafford, I was like, that sounds nice. Hey, that sounds nice, Matthew Stafford. That guy's been dead in Detroit for 12 years.

He's an absolute baller. He has never been mentally broke. He's never had a bad season. It didn't matter who got drafted, how the franchise was run. Let's get him down here. Well, he goes to Los Angeles for 65 first-round picks, and they move on. All right, so what else is available? Well, Russell Wilson's team doesn't like the way the Seattle Seahawks

have been dealing with Russell Wilson. Maybe we get Russell Wilson in Indianapolis. Hey, go Hawks. Go Colts. This guy hates Seattle. Come to India. You'll love it here, pal. A lot of God.

A lot of good time. Let's get Russell Wilson. Then you hear Deshaun Watson's potential. Let's get his ass in the division. It's going to be impossible. So Carson Wentz was never my first, I want that guy, okay? Because there was a lot of other quarterbacks on the market that I thought, hey, you drop them on this Colts team, we're going to win the goddamn Super Bowl.

But now that we're here, Russell Wilson isn't on the move. Aaron Rodgers isn't on the move. Nashawn Watson, who knows what's going to happen with that. They're saying he's not on the move. Getting Carson Wentz for a third-round draft pick. This is brilliant by Chris Ballard. Everything I said sounds terrible, especially if he comes out and learns how to play football again. But I like that it's only for a third-round pick.

Conditional first with a second next year if he plays over 75% of the snaps. That goes from a second to a first next year. If he only plays 70% and they make the playoffs, that goes from a second to a first next year. If he only plays 70% and they make the playoffs, that goes from a second to a first. But a third round and a second with his contract, that is massive. But Chris Ballard has handled the cap so well. This is a win, obviously, but it wasn't my first choice, and I don't think it was anybody's.

So do you think, though, this was the best offer that Carson Wentz had, obviously, or Philly had for his services? Yeah, it feels like everything that they were saying was a bunch of bullshit, doesn't it? was the best offer that Carson Wentz had, obviously, or Philly had for his services? Yeah, it feels like everything that they were saying was a bunch of bullshit, doesn't it? It seems like, well, there's a lot of teams interested. We're going to be trading them in the next couple of days. They said that last week. Then they said that ended last week.

Then they said at the beginning of this week. And here we are. I'm on a goddamn beach. They finally do make the deal happen. But it sounds like the Bears, they would have had to have offered something better than a third rounder and then a second rounder next year. That's next to nothing. Everybody realized that they had the Philadelphia Eagles by the cojones. You have a massive contract, a terrible situation,

a quarterback that could be broken. Could be broken. We're not 100% sure. I hope everybody's all right back there. I just heard something pop. could be broken. Yeah, could be broken. We're not 100% sure. I hope everybody's all right back there. I just heard something pop. Could be broken. And they wanted to move on. As soon as they hired Jalen Hurtson's friend to be the quarterback coach,

everybody knows they want to move on. So all that BS about having good offers and everybody's interested, that was all bullshit. But now we know Chris Ballard was making a play. The Colts-Philadelphia Eagles conversation probably have been happening for a while here. Chris Ballard never blinks, and I'm only giving you this in this because I'm getting that big contract and a player that we're not 100% certain whether or not he's the player he was a couple years ago. It does feel like that was a bunch of bullshit, though, AJ.

It feels like Chris Ballard never blinked, though, you know, just stared right down the barrel of the gun, didn't call off one time. Yeah, but what if you were on the Indianapolis Colts right now currently? How would you feel about the fact that, hey, this is what – yeah, we didn't have to give up a whole lot, but Carson Wentz is our guy. We're resting everything on him. We kind of have the pieces around him already. DeForest Buckner told us last week or two weeks ago.

He said he loves him. He said, hey, if he wants to come in here and work and be everything, that's what we want. He was an MVP player just a couple years ago. So DeForest Buckner, I think the boys know what's going on. They obviously know the conversations and the storylines that are happening outside the locker room. And I think that locker room, especially with – I think DeForest Buckner got baptized with Frank Reich.

Did he not? Yeah, he did. Yes, he did. He got baptized with Frank Reich in the same pool. They were running around the same pool together getting baptized. And he said he had that moment and experience with Frank Reich. And I assume that's similar to what Carson and Frank Reich had. And he said he would love him. Frank would be able to fix him. I'll be excited to see if that's the case, if Frank Reich has that ability or that power. And if he does, more power

to him because the Colts do become an instant contender in the AFC. Now, obviously, the Chiefs are going to be great. Steelers might not even have a quarterback by the time this conversation ends. But the AFC is going to be difficult no matter what for the next 10 years. I think everybody understands that. Carson Wentz, if he can learn how to play football again, it's good. But there was other guys that we know know how to play football still that were available when I was making the remarks that I was making, so I would like people to not attack me for them as much.

Yeah, okay. So how long does Carson Wentz have to figure it out, to figure out how to play football again, as you like to say? Did you watch him play football this past season, AJ? Yes, I have watched. I'm just wondering how long is his leash? Why do you say, as I like to say, that you forgot how to play fucking football? Because this is the Pat McAfee show.

You've been talking about him. I'm sitting at your desk, so I'm trying to bring you into the conversation. Yeah, but you were acting like you didn't say that. Like, everybody said that. I've always said great things about him. I think he's going to be amazing. Come on. Hey, dude, the guy couldn't complete a two-yard pass.

Okay, listen, I only have one completion in the NFL, rolling out against the Steelers, safety over the top, absolutely dropped it into a keyhole. Okay, that's not – but, like, whenever you're talking about the throws he was missing and the decisions he was making – good bat, by the way. Last year, you would think to yourself, if you had any, you know, a little bit of football knowledge, you'd be like, this guy forgot how to play football all of a sudden.

Good glasses, by the way. You're doing great. But whenever you talk about Phil Rivers, when he came over to the Indianapolis Colts, which we learned from Jim Irsay saying, Jim Irsay said, like, you know, Tom was interested or whatever, but Frank said he wanted Phil. It's like Jim Irsay before this season, before this Carson Wentz decision was made.

Jim Irsay is on record saying like, yeah, Frank Wright said we should have Phil Rivers. All right. So I think that was setting the table almost for like, just so we all understand here. Like this is how this went. Now, Phil Rivers took a look. They lost to the Jaguars. Okay. And Joe Dirk picked off Phil Rivers in the first game to fucking seal that thing.

So I think it might take a little bit. I don't know how OTAs are going to be this year. It might be a little bit different than the COVID protocol OTAs last year. But I think it might take a little bit of time or whatever. But maybe you'll be able to figure it out. And if not, I assume the 70% playing time is Chris Ballard with the potential second rounder going to a first rounder next year. That's Chris Ballard saying, I'm not even 100% sure we're going to play this guy so I'm I'm intrigued to see how

it all plays out I hope he figures it out because that Colts team could be great oh absolutely a lot of it depends on Carson Wentz but I got here a little bit before this news broke I got here to the studio absolute rejoicing from all the boys here by the way when we saw the news on the tv when we saw a break that carson wentz is coming to the colts but one of your guys we know boston connor had an exceptionally excited argument or i guess you'd say celebration and he said he cannot wait he's already setting his tree stand up so connor how do you feel yeah i mean i am through the roof about it obviously if anyone can fix carson it's frank right but pat have you started to look for 12 gauges to buy for carson when he comes out here to hunt hey listen uh i see you've got the camo on you were wearing that for two weeks too oh yeah so i'm happy it came

for you i came together for you pal yeah oh cam o'connor one of my favorites for sure especially with that mustache it's really coming together beautifully. 12 gauges. I think that is a good gift. You know, like when somebody comes to the community, you bring them like a loaf of bread or something. I've never done that thing in my neighborhood, but it's in the movies or whatever. You take them like a cake or something.

I think Carson Wentz moved to town. Everybody in Indy understands that you show up with AKs, ARs, shotguns, and maybe even a deer stand or two, and let's go ahead and try to win the Super Bowl here, pal, and let's remember how to play football again like you did a couple years ago when you were playing great football,

then that season ended with another guy getting a Super Bowl MVP and a statue outside of it. Let's go ahead and finish the deal this time here for the shoe, pal, for the shoe. Hey, but what about Philly? Are they telling us that, hey, Jalen Hurts is our guy moving forward? I don't know because a lot of people are saying they're going to take quarterback.

So, like, do they – because they hired that quarterback coach for the Philadelphia Eagles, and everybody's like, oh, he's not in Jalen since Jalen was a teenager or whatever. I was like, okay. And, you know, none of this, AJ, none of this, AJ. And, by the way, there are miserable olds all around. Because of what's going on here. Yeah, moments before we go live on air here. Carson Wentz gets traded. Okay.

My umbrella here that keeps me from turning into a lobster. The wind is so cold and strong Blue this umbrella Me in the head Sprinted down the beach. Somebody had to grab it almost killed somebody. So that was Carson wants to show you the Colts I almost get decapitated and somebody almost dies by getting speared from a runaway umbrella off of my head broke my broke my head I might have seen to you to be honest with that. I mean, I haven't got it checked out But it was a full pound there, you know full powder back to the point you're saying about Jalen hurts

No, none of it makes sense. Now that makes sense the Doug Peterson story is that he wanted to move on from Carson Wentz wanted Jalen hurts and then when Jalen answers and he said get On the bench with us saidts was in, he said, get on the bench. We got Sudfeld coming in here, right? So it was Doug Peterson saying anybody but Carson Wentz. And then whenever the stories came out that Doug Peterson and Phil Duffy Eagles mutually agreed to depart or whatever, the story was Doug Peterson wanted Carson and they didn't want Carson.

And then why'd you draft Jalen then? They didn't want Carson. And then why'd you draft Jalen then? There's just the mixed signals have just been all over the place with who wants what and where. And then whenever you hire the quarterback coach that knows Jalen, it's almost like I don't think anybody has a clue what they want to do over there. And that sounds – I've never been inside that building, okay? I don't know how it all works out.

We talked to Shady yesterday a little bit about the Philadelphia situation. He didn't say them. He said, but in his experiences, whenever everybody seems to be on the same page is when an organization does well. It feels like the Philadelphia Eagles have potentially been on maybe in two different fucking books for the last year or so on what's going on as opposed to even the same pages. I don't think anybody knows what's going on over there, including them.

Yeah, it does. But, okay, so I'm going to move on to Ben Roethlisberger. That's a big story, I think. It feels like, to me, the Steelers are almost – if Ben decides to come out and say, hey, I'm going to retire, I'm done playing football, I think they'd be okay with it. That's what it feels like to me right now. Yeah, you and I had this chat a little bit before we went live.

And with what Colbert said, them has been there for like 20 years nick how many years at colbert been there 20 years or so yeah a long time yeah maybe 20 yeah he's been there a long time he's basically like the stealer way right the stealer way is higher from within it's like a high school you know we talked to brett kiesel out there in the middle of his uh fucking cabin out in the middle of the woods where carson went's probably gonna swing by there on his way over to india or whatever on the north side of pittsburgh he talked about how it's like a family like a college family atmosphere everybody goes there colbert's a big reason that is the case so when his name was up for potentially the detroit lions job i think i was

very surprised i was like hi colbert's leaving the Pittsburgh Steelers. That makes no sense at all. He is the Steelers, basically. You would assume he would retire with the Steelers. So he is a guy that I think Pittsburgh Steelers fans trust. They trust the organization is going to make the right decision. Now, you're always going to hear like mark madden's of the world say what they should do and will do two different things but the steelers have been good

for so damn long it's almost like you just have faith that the steelers even if they don't make the perceived right decision it's going to be the right decision in the long run because they're a successful organization that's just what the steelers are when the season ended ben roethlisberger is crying on the bench right next to pouncey he He said, hey, this is why I want to come back more for you than for me even. And then the conversation was like, well, will Ben and Pounce retire at the same time? Pounce and Pounce retired at the same time, his twin brother. But Ben Roethlisberger did not announce that. Ben Roethlisberger said, I'll come back if they want me.

It was like, ooh, ooh, a little bit of drama. You know what I mean? If they want me. You know, like Ben Roethlisberger's been around a long time. He's given up a lot of things, you know. No more baloney bopping for the guy. But the thing about it is Ben Roethlisberger might want to come back. And the Steelers, with the way things are sounding,

they might not want him to come back, especially at the $40-some million dead cap hit it would take to them, especially with the way their salary cap is set up. Now, the salary cap is going up $5 million instead of down, which is great news for everybody. But they are in cap trouble. They're going to try to renegotiate with him is what everybody says. But what if they want to move on from him?

And if they cut him before some date, they save $15 million off the $19 million dead cap hit. It's an interesting time to be alive whenever Roethlisberger says, I'll come back if they want me. And then the Steelers, initially the old reports were, hey, we're going to bring him back even though we brought in a new offense coordinator, new offensive system. Now it's like, wait, there's Steelers,

but that you want to kick old Ben Roethlisberger out of town. And that sounds like that might be the case. Retire now, old man. We don't want to have this moment to your point i think that is potentially what they're thinking so you mentioned that the salary cap in the nfl just recently a memo came out it's going to be 180 million at the floor is this year so it's not going to go lower we know it's going to at least raise by 5 million from last year at 175 does that change anything with ben's contract though if he says hey I can restructure I can find a way to give you guys the help you need Andrew Brandt uh yeah Ian Rappaport reported that there's a new floor

of 180 million dollars which means teams I believe can that's the lowest it'll be for next year even though I guess it fluctuates a little bit I don't know how they figured it out I'd assume they counted just the hundred100 billion TV rights they just suggested. I mean, unbelievable. Good for the NFL doing their thing, but I think that amount, only being $5 million,

I'm not sure that saves anybody that was in deep shit. You know what I mean? I think they're still potentially in deep shit. I guess the Saints are potentially in deep shit. There's a couple other teams that I think have to make some plays that we thought could get pretty big naming if they had to. Now I guess it won't be as much of a casualty situation for some of the big names because it went up

as opposed to the thought that it might stay the same or go down. But I still think we're going to see some moves made. We're definitely going to see moves made. I think places where you could find some value are these guys that are veterans that do have a big cap number they still can play but teams know like hey we just we all need to change the scenery we need to get this number off our books and a guy like that sounds like von miller could be one of those guys they they made we're getting reports that they may decline to pick up his eight million 18 million dollar option coming up here i don't know, in a few weeks maybe,

maybe when the league year starts, March 17th, I believe. Like a guy like him, if they don't pick his new option up or this option, where does he go? Obviously, it's like anyone else, like J.J. Watt. Oh, hey, he's going to go to, guess what? He wants to go to a good team with a good quarterback that has a chance to win. Well, that is breaking news to me, bud.

I cannot imagine that these superstars that have been dominating the NFL want to go play for someone that can win the Super Bowl. Send me to a place that has – I'm not doing it to him. He doesn't deserve it. Send me to a place that has Jordan Lobsdorff as quarterback. Ain't nobody saying that. There's nobody at this point. Von Miller, J.J. Watt.

What about Ben Roethlisberger? Now, I will get to Von Miller and J.J. Watt, but interesting point that you just talked about there. What if Ben Roethlisberger was tradable, AJ? I want this answer from you. If Ben Roethlisberger was tradable right now, would you rather Ben Roethlisberger or Carson Wentz? Man, for just one season?

For next year? One year only. Let's go. One year. How you doing? Keep it moving. We got a team already built, okay? We know that you're not going to be able to move your statue.

Phil Rivers, same damn way. He's got to make a couple more plays. Would you rather Ben Roethlisberger or Carson Wentz for a one-year rental? Right now, I'm still taking ben you need to aj but you're gonna take some shit for saying what you just said right there but let's move on to von miller von miller he seems like the guy that's probably gonna end up where indianapolis colts maybe yeah justin houston's a free agent why not bring von miller on that turf too coming off the edge man those guys on that turf you saw dwight freeney mathis those guys can turn the corner.

And you've got DeForest Buckner eating two to three guys every single play, so it's not like they can't just shift to go ahead and do what you've got to do. And Vaughn Miller's still a good football player. He's hurt. There's been a lot of drama, controversy, who knows with all that stuff. Hopefully that comes back all clean or whatever. But he's still a great football player, right? There's only a couple of Vaughn Millers in the world.

That's a guy that everybody would like to have play football for. Look for, obviously, Tampa, depending upon how much money Vaughn Miller's made, what he's looking to make. I mean, there's going to be Buffalo, I guess, is in the J.J. Watt suite. I guess that one's very close, and it's like, why not? That makes a lot of sense up there with old McDermott.

That guy loves the football, dude. J.J. loves the football. Go from Houston to Buffalo, automatically be in contention in the AFC because that AFC East is potentially dead. And, yeah, I just – there's a lot of good – it's a good time to be a free agent and be very good at football. Yeah, I saw someone say that Buffalo could be a good option for J.J. strictly because – or an added bonus would be, oh, Buffalo and the Bills Mafia,

they do such a good job getting behind people, you know, and they donated money to Andy Dalton's charity. And J.J. has been such a guy to – he's raised so much money that, hey, it's a perfect fit with him. And Buffalo is like, you know, he can raise money from anywhere. It's the internet. Like he can – he doesn't have to live in the city. Yeah, I mean, he raised $37 million or whatever.

I assume a lot of those millions didn't come strictly from Houston. I mean, maybe. Maybe they were, but I think there was billionaires that lived in A.J. Hawk's neighborhood in Ohio that were donating. I think the Epsteins got involved too, which is also A.J.'s neighbor. They were donating. I think J.J. Watt is at a level where he's hosted Saturday Night Live, right?

He's on Jimmy Fallon. He does all that. Has he been on Ellen? Has he been on Ellen? Probably. Is Ellen still on Ellen? Oh, yeah. She said sorry. J., listen. Very interesting you said that because I was watching her game show

or whatever the hell it was it looked really good i was like is this a new episode you know and uh my wife was like yeah new episode i was like does she have her daily show too and my wife was like yep still doing the episodes i'm like oh so none of that matters then right like nope you know what i mean like the uh if you're ellen you're Ellen Ellen's like up there Oprah Ellen the amount of money she has made on television being everybody's friend is so high

when some things come out backstage it's like she's still she's still Ellen but I did just like you I thought she was I thought it was over I thought it was over for Ellen there and she's not she's still crushing out there. But JJ's been on Ellen.

What I'm saying is I think he would love the Buffalo Bills mafia being on his side. I think any player would. But when it comes to a fundraising effort and $99 at a time, I think he has those friends that potentially do like $99,000 at a time. And I think those people are scattered scattered amongst America if I had to guess absolutely a Pat hey we're gonna we're gonna get to our first guest of the day I didn't get to intro him earlier because the the uh the Carson Wentz news was just taking everyone by storm but hey join us now we have unbelievable wide receiver seven year vet 14 touchdowns this last this last

season I think a scratch or below better than scratch golfer ladies and gentlemen adam theelin yeah what's up adam what's up so hey i'm i'm in pat's studio today i don't know if you knew this pat is somewhere on a beach doing god knows what so i'm sitting in for him but he's joined us because he wants to be with you how you doing man i'm doing great yeah even better now being with you guys and seeing Pat on the beach. That just made my day. Well, Adam, the last time I was at a beach, I was with you. We were not on the beach together, but we were down in the Bahamas golfing,

having the time of our lives. The world has changed immensely since then. But I would like to reiterate a point that A.J. Hawk just made. Ty Schmidt, myself, Nick Moroto, Evan Foxey, while rather intoxicated, watched Adam Thielen hit a three-wood, 375 yards. Isn't that right, Foxey? Is that not how far he hit that?

He drove it over the green on a par four with a three-wood. With a three-wood, yeah, with a three wood. Adam Thielen is a monster. If he wasn't playing football and by his way in that regional combine, the son of a bitch would be in the PGA. I wish. I tell my wife all the time I picked the wrong profession. I love the game of golf, and I've been in the simulator.

I got the simulator in the house, so my son and I are down there every single day. So it's been kind of fun. It's been a good offseason. Yeah, speaking of that offseason, I guess, do you have any kind of feeling of what this next offseason may look like? Like if you're going to be in the facility, do your coaches reach out? Or what do they say? Hey, we don't know.

We take it day by day? Yeah, the coaches are kind of saying they don't really know what's going to happen. You know, I've tried to, you know, figure it out other ways. And it sounds like, you know, it's still up for debate. But I'm kind of hoping, honestly, that I can just train, you know, where I spent, you know, six months last year here at ETS. And being able to just be able to take care of myself and my body and train to try to, you know, become the best football player I could be. You know, last year was the best I've ever felt in my life. So it was nice to have six straight months of training with, you know,

the right person, and that's here at ETS with Ryan. Who's Ryan? What's that? What the hell is ETS and who's Ryan? So Ryan Engelbert, he is my business partner here at ets he started ets and i've been training with him since i came out um we're actually opening up uh ets green bay with john cool oh wow okay okay so uh uh which we're excited about march 1st that opens up i I'm actually heading to Green Bay next week to kind of start things off there. Clifford.

So, is this like a TB12? It is, yeah, essentially. Yeah, same type of deal. But, yeah, you know, it's like I said, it's a place where I started training when I was coming out for the league. And obviously passionate about that. It's helped me get to where I am. And like I said, being able to help me feel the best I've ever felt in my life last year. So I've got a ton of faith in Ryan and what he does,

and then we want to take it to the next level and bring it to as many athletes as possible. So just trying to get to as many youth as we possibly can and help them reach their full potential. Hey, Adam, I know Bruce Arians came out recently and said something about offseason programs and how vets obviously they don't really need it. They don't like it.

Young guys may need sub-development. How do you feel? How do you think the rest of your team feels? Do you have to be in the facility there every day in the offseason to get the work you need? Yeah, so I think there's two sides of it because at the end of the day, I wouldn't be where I am without OTAs, because that was my opportunity to show what I could do to prove that I belong to, you know, basically, that was really my only opportunity when it got to preseason, when it got of it of, you know, it does kind of, you know, there's some pieces of it that kind of hurt me as a veteran that I can't just train specifically for the

season for six months straight. I have to, you know, train for OTAs and then, you know, you're doing OTAs for 12 weeks or whatever it is, and then you get a month to train again for the season. So I think there's some benefits of it, obviously, and there's some negatives, uh trying to find that happy medium i think is what what we need to do okay so what is the difference whenever you're training for the season year round as opposed to just training for otas and everything like that is it is it different exercise different workouts or do you think the otas going over shit that you already know is taking away from potential opportunity for you to train other things like why is now for instance my position i'm showing up and i'm putting the ball okay and if it's to be honest ota's is nice because i don't have to go pick it at high school and have a bunch of bums running around on the field around me it's actually pretty good you

know but for you guys i know a lot of guys who take their body super serious because their body is their weapon in this whole thing. In the OTAs, in some of their minds, I'm not saying everybody, obviously, because everybody likes it. But some people think like this is taking away from me being able to work on my body to get my body to where I want it to be for the season. And really like kind of taking time away. Do you think the best way would be to have like younger guys do something and then have the vets be allowed to do whatever because they say it's voluntary but it's not we all know it's not if you want to be respected on your team or be a captain you have to be there i mean that's just the way it is but some of those guys might need that time for their body especially after this covid protocol where they kind of let everybody do that and some of

the older guys have their best seasons yet like how do how do you think, how do you go, how do you fix it going forward, do you think, Adam? Yeah, I don't really know what the best solution is. I will say that, like you said, you know, when you have to, you don't want to overtrain, right? So you can't just, you can't be training for, you know, the season and trying to make strides of becoming a better athlete, becoming quicker, faster, stronger, at the same time as doing, like, full practices.

Like, your body can't handle that. So I do feel there is a part of that when you have that many practices and that you can't do both. So you kind of take a step back as far as becoming a better athlete, taking care of your body, being as strong and as sturdy and as, I guess, your core is being as strong and as sturdy and as, I guess, your core is being as strong as it possibly can going into a season. So I think there's some of that.

But, again, you've got to have that opportunity for these young guys to grow and to get better and to have opportunities to show what they can do. Adam, you know, all anybody says, though, is that the vets are just lazy and everything. They don't want to do the OTAs and blah, blah, blah. But I think there's – like what you just said there, I think people will be like, oh, actually, it's the complete opposite. Like these guys actually want their bodies to be in the best shape

that they could possibly be in for the season. It's just – it's a very interesting thing because I think a lot of OGs kind of get labeled as lazy when really it's not the case. It's just they know their bodies so much better at this point. Yeah, I mean, I think're you know lazy per se uh you're not a guy that's playing eight nine ten eleven years uh those guys they take it serious i mean i i i tell the story a lot but my first pro bowl was like shocking to me uh because you get there and you show up and you kind of think like okay these guys are just you know freak athletes uh whatever you know up and you kind of think like, okay, these guys are just, you know, freak athletes, whatever, you know, and you get there and you see why they're Pro Bowlers, because they

take this game serious. They take care of their bodies. There's training. During Pro Bowl, the Pro Bowl week, there's guys that are training and getting ready for the next season and talking about the game. You know, what helps them get open, what helps them be successful at what they do. And it really was an eye opener of, you know know why the greats are great because they take it serious and they take um every opportunity to get better yeah i don't think there's stumbled out of the i stumbled out of

the bar one morning alongside aq shipley who was not a pro bowler we were just having a good time there and uh jj watt walked by with his cleats and his headphones on. And literally, that was the moment where I realized, like, yeah, I'm not supposed to be here. This is not how this whole thing is supposed to go. And there's a reason. Y'all motherfuckers are y'all motherfuckers. And I just hung over, stumbled out of brunch right here. So you're 100% right with that, my friend.

I appreciate that. But I ain't never missed an OTA. You know what I mean, Adam? That's true. You're not lazy yeah there's not a whole lot of uh like dumb lazy guys that are in their eighth ninth tenth year in the league normally there's something to it like there's not a whole lot of uh you got to be somewhat intelligent and love the game and actually care to work but big news that happened today adam right before we came on the show carson wentz he's coming here to be with pat's indianapolis colts like what do you what i guess what do you think of not only carson wentz changing

teams and all this stuff happening whatever philly's gonna do now but especially just like the quarterback market now how many stud quarterbacks there are everywhere and we're gonna see a lot of activity here over the next couple months and kirk was gone just a couple weeks ago by the way kirk was potentially gone. I think he was getting traded a week ago. Kirk Cousins' name got popped up. Yeah. I don't watch any of the NFL news in the offseason because I know most of it is fake news. But I do want to say, though, I do want to say that I'm happy for Carson Wentz.

Carson Wentz. And, you know, obviously all he's been through and getting a fresh start, I think he's going to absolutely kill it there and have a great year. And I got a lot of respect for him. And obviously him being close to where I am from, close to North Dakota. So, you know, got a lot of respect for him and excited to see what he can do and have a fresh start. You're close to North Dakota?

I thought you were from Minnesota. I'm from Minnesota, but I'm right on the border. My hometown is like 40 minutes from the North Dakota border. So I grew up not too far from him. You got 12 gauge? You go out there and burn that, dude? You go out there and kill a sheep? I actually did grow up doing that, but it's not my favorite thing to do.

I'd rather be on the golf course Hey are you boys with Josh Duhamel? He's from North Dakota isn't he? Yeah he's actually got a place Close to my hometown So I've got to know him over the years And a big Vikings fan So he's come out to practices and things like that

But yeah he actually has a little lake place Not too far from my hometown So I actually got to get out there and check it out sometime. Hold on. So you guys are like, don't you know, just everybody out there? And it's like we're neighbors. We know each other. If you're in North Dakota, South Dakota, or Minnesota,

now that I'm – that's kind of a lump there? That's right. Yeah, I mean, shoot, if you're from northern Minnesota, you got some type of connection. And, you know, a lot of people from North Dakota, they come to, to actually my hometown or around my hometown. Cause we got a ton of lakes and it's a great summer place.

So a lot of people in North Dakota have summer places in, in my hometown. So I get to know a lot of those people. Connor, what do you got? Yeah. Adam, you mentioned opening up one of the ETS centers with John Coon and green

Bay. Will you restrict Aaron Rogers from going there? Because if he gets on your routine, he might throw over 70 touchdowns or is everyone welcome? That's a good point. I heard, you know, via this show that he's, you know, all about squatting and getting these, you know, big legs all strong. So, I mean, he's welcome to come to ETS and get strong if he wants.

What do you guys do at ETS? We running? We lifting? We got any pliability going on? We got some sups? We doing sups? What's your sups? What do we got going on at ETS?

Well, I'd love to have you come get a workout in. That could be some good content. I don't work out anymore. Is it a workout plan? Like, what do we got? You got a whole system? Is it HIIT training? Is it high-intensity training? Is it Olympic? what do we got you got a whole system is it is it hit training oh is it high intensity training is it olympic what type of what do we got going on in

ets yeah i think that's probably why i am am so passionate about it and and you know why i got involved in the business side of things is because um you know it really is the only the only um what we're really all about here is becoming the best athlete as possible uh so so uh ryan he's done a great job of of creating systems to make that happen um it's not just you don't come in here for a workout you come in here to train and to become a better athlete and uh you know when i started to feel that and see that and and you know really get get the most out of these uh you know training sessions and and really buying into it and then seeing what my progression was from season to OTAs and see how much different I felt and was

able to move more efficiently and break down and change direction so much better is when I really bought in. So our big thing is being strong in the right areas, not being strong to look good, but being able to move efficiently and being able to change direction is huge. So strengthening the muscles to do that and then also having the right process to become the best athlete. But you do want to look good though, right? That's still part of it.

Why are we even working out? I'm still doing a Friday pump workout, but that has nothing to do with actually becoming a better athlete. Awesome. Hey, Adam, really, really appreciate your workout, but that has nothing to do with actually becoming a better athlete. Awesome. Hey, Adam, really, really appreciate your time, man. Thank you so much for joining us. Good luck with this upcoming season. Good luck in Tahoe next year.

I think you can win it. I think I placed a bet on you to win it all last year. This year I will place the same bet most likely, but ladies and gentlemen, Adam Thielen. Hold on, hold on. Hold on, I've got to get something out of this. Hey, I want to golf in your simulator. I see you posting videos in there.

The thing looks like it's the nicest simulator I've ever seen in my entire life. Hey, you're welcome to come anytime. Anytime you're in Minnesota, come on over. Lunch is on me. Dinner is on me. Let's do it. All right. You're the best, Adam.

Thank you. Sorry about that. I cut off your applause there. You got a pretty good pop from the boys, too. That's on me. I apologize for you, Adam. Thank you for your time, dude. Thank you, got a pretty good pop from the boys, too. That's on me. I apologize for you, Adam. Thank you for your time, dude.

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please welcome Marcus Peters to the show. Marcus, what's up, man? How you doing? I'm doing cool, man. Chilling at the house right now. I can't complain. How you doing, big dog? I'm doing great.

Sorry. I'm sitting in for Pat today. I'm looking at the wrong camera multiple times, so I'm going to try to make sure I look at you, Marcus. You looking good? What are you wearing? It's all good. Is that a hoodie?

Is that a Snuggie? What is that? You know, I got my little tight hoodie? Is that a Snuggie? What is that? You know, I got my little tight-eyed little hoodie, Snuggie. Yeah. Doing something. You look very, very, very comfortable. I'm jealous a little bit. Pat keeps his studio about 22 degrees Fahrenheit,

so it's pretty chilly in here for all of us. You should be used to it, though, man. You live in Green Bay. You should be used to it, big dog. Okay, that's a question I have for you. I know you haven't always played in cold places, but in Baltimore, I know it gets cold. I know, at least for myself,

personally, people always said, hey, man, did you just thrive and love the cold? I felt like as I got older, maybe I just knew what to expect, but the cold was worse for me. I think I knew what to expect. I didn't handle it as well as I did when I was young. How do you handle it? I think we all hate that shit, man.

Let's just be honest. We hate that shit. But it got cold as shit when I was at KC, man. We played some freezing cold games. And when that ground froze in, big dog, that shit ain't nothing nice. How do you feel? Do you feel like when it's cold like that, do you as a DB have an advantage any more than you normally would if it was warm?

Oh, you got to expect tips and overthrows, man. That's going to happen. Fingertips is out there frozen. Quarterbacks is going to try to get it in regardless. So they got to be ready, and we got to be ready for them tips and overthrows. At that jam, finger hit for me, come across in that freezing cold. There's a lot of picks we can get. Hey, does play calling ever change defensively

with the weather? You say tips and overthrows. I instantly think like, hey, I want to be playing more zone then because I want to be able to, my eyes on the QB, I want to see that ball so I can go after it if it does get tipped.

I mean, for the biggest part, you know, it kind of does change the game plan a little bit because we're expecting a lot more runs and a lot more play action, deep shots, because that's pretty much going to be the only time that they can really attack. Because, you know, quick games are going to be happening. But like I say, that's where them tips and overthrows come.

If we play a tight man, tight zone coverage, we can try to get them tips and overthrows with quarterbacks trying to hit them gaps. That's right. Something that everybody on this show loved, Marcus, was you get a pick, you seal the game, Tennessee, you run out there to the middle of the field and all your defense, all your boys come join you. I guess, was that something you thought

about beforehand? I know some of your teammates said, hey, I just kind of went along for it and they all had your back. I loved watching it. Is that something you seem to plan a little bit or just like you envision yourself getting a pick to end the game? No, not really. For me, I plan on getting a pick that game for sure uh my opportunities was was a little short i thought i could have got one play he uh ran ran a double move on me with

brown and he kind of threw it back shoulder and so i had my opportunities to give me some picks that game but to be honest man that that that whole little incident happened just just just how it occurred you feel me we all felt that they was being disrespectful as fuck towards the first time when they played at the house so we took that shit personal and we knew what type of game was going to be going into it and like i say man it just so happened it had to be me to do it you feel me i feel like my dogs was ready to to rob me any time any moment that for that for me what was going on that day. So they had to get it, man. When you do it to us, you got to get it done with you.

Do you guys thrive on that? In Baltimore, do you thrive on that kind of having some personal stuff going back and forth? We know with the head coaches and everything, it seems like you guys are energized by that. I mean, that's the real beauty of the game. You feel me? I think all football, real football players kind of accept me, kind of love that little, that shit-talking aspect

of the game, as we will call it. But it adds that flavor to it, man. And I think it fit Baltimore perfect. You got a comment? Yeah, Marcus,

I read that you were actually a kicker in high school as well as a plethora of other positions. Have you tried to kick an extra point in the NFL a la Ocho Cinco, or have you put those days behind?

I couldn't do that shit. I ain't going to even lie to you. I'm old school heel-toe. You feel me? I'm going to go straight with it. The way them league balls is right now, you feel me? I ain't got it with the big toe no more. Did you do pump, pass, and kick ever as a kid?

No, I couldn't throw for shit, so I kind of stayed out of it. Do you think most DBs can or cannot throw the ball? You know, it's a few of them that can probably throw the rock for sure. Unfortunately, I got a little-ass hand, so I can't really grip the ball as well as people with bigger hands. So I'm going to throw ducks regardless. Hey, so you played for Wade Phillips at the Rams, right? really grip the ball as well as people with bigger hands than me. So I'm going to throw ducks regardless. Yeah. Hey, so you played for Wade Phillips at the Rams, right? What is he like?

He seems like such an interesting guy. OG, man. He a Hall of Fame coach regardless in my book, man. The way he know the game, the way he studied the game, the way he had us prepared every week, and just the flavor that he bring, you feel me? That's OG Wade, you feel me? He come to practice and all he wants you to do is bust your ass and work

and everything else will be taken care of by him like he was safe. I mean, all mistakes, you can put them on me. And I just want y'all to go out there and play free and fast. Gumpy, you got something? Yeah, Marcus, you played with Jared Goff with the Rams. How do you think he'll fare in Detroit? I think Jared's going to be fine, man. I think all Jared's got to do is just continue to get better like we all do.

You know, take the good for the good, the bad for the bad, man. The situation, it was unfortunate, you know, that it had to happen like that. But, like, if you miss the business, man, you can't take nothing personal. You just got to go your butt to work and just be willing to get better, man, take on new challenges. And, you know, he's going to be an awesome leader for that team, though. So we hear that a lot. Like, yeah, it's new challenges. And, you know, he's going to be an awesome leader for that team, though. And so we hear that a lot.

Like, yeah, it's a business. Don't take things personal. But how do you not take it personal? I know it is a business. So you do take that shit personal, but only when you play them. Okay. So you use it. You get asked that. They ask what they want to feel.

You play to that high standard that you're supposed to play at or that they felt you couldn't play at. And you hold that to be personal. But other than that, you handle your business, man, because we know how it is. People got their opinions about you, and it's going to change every day. If you're doing good, they're going to love you. If you're doing bad, they're going to hate you.

So how good does it feel to actually play those guys and use that and make plays on them? That shit feel real good. and use that and make plays on them. That shit feel real good. So what's the rest of your offseason look like? Obviously a little different. You don't really know what the schedule looks like.

Do you have contact with your coaches? Like what do they say the next thing for you guys is going to be? Pretty much right now we got a little group chat going on, and we just get information sent from Coach every now and then and just keeping contact from that way. But for me, man, I'm about to just get back into the normal routine, get my body right, doing some yoga, some stretching, and just getting back into the routine. How you kind of handle yourself physically and mentally, I guess, in the offseason, has that changed much since you entered the league?

I ain't going to lie. I low-key had a little cheat code for me coming into the league for taking care of my body. You know, I lived with Marshawn my last year at UW. So, you feel me, going through that process of watching him take care of his body, of him going out there, getting 15, 16 carries, and then, you feel me, coming home and then watching this whole routine of how you get his body back, you know, into condition.

But Sunday, you know, I just kept on the routine when I first got into it. You know, keep my mind and my body right and we'll be fine. Marcus, are there any players or teams where

you are like, all right, I got to turn up the shit talk today or are you always just barking at the other guys? Nah, to be honest, I'm talking shit to everybody, man. Don't nobody get no special treatment. Hey, Marcus, what's the most frustrating thing if you are talking to somebody? Is it more frustrating when someone just is silent and doesn't say anything back?

Or, like, what do you dislike? It's the nice guy, man. It's the one who's just going to shoot it to you in the most nicest way. And it's like, man, just say something back. Just talk the shit. Who's nice? It just don't happen. You have an example of a couple guys like that?

Ooh, see. Julian Edelman is like that, but then Jules is going to talk his shit, though. He's going to throw his little one-two punches in on the under, but Jules is like that a little bit. Not too many, man. I kind of come across some real good dogs. You can talk your shit back. I'm sure it seems like there's mutual respect back and forth during the game.

You definitely, I mentioned, you have 31 career interceptions, which is unbelievable already, and you seem to score on a lot of those. And you're not scared to take chances and jump routes. And I was trying to explain earlier to guys, like, I'm sure when you do take chances, it's because you've watched those plays a thousand times on film. You know the situations. They like to do this and do that.

So you're like, okay, this is my opportunity where I can step out and take a chance like is that something you've always had and and how do you do that going forward because people know hey this is a guy you got to be worried about him because he's gonna he's gonna go up and snatch the ball and he's probably gonna take it for six man to be honest man it started with me young man pop just always told us not to play scared man we're going out there to play football, and it's a game, man. And once we're done with that football game, whatever you did on that field, it's left on the field. It ain't going to – you're not supposed to take the shit personally.

So I just go out there and play fast, play free. You feel me? If I didn't do my homework and study, then why shouldn't I not take this risk? Because if I take this risk and we get a high reward, everybody's going to be cheering. But, you feel me, if I take the risk and I get beat or something like that, I'm not the one to come back and just point fingers at nobody. I'm going to own up for my motherfucking mistakes, and then we're going to make the steps properly to advance further in doing the game.

You feel me? And then later on, if I see the next thing, if I see that same example again, y'all running it again, I got you. Hey, what's the most frustrating thing for you? Say you're watching a college game or an NFL game on TV. You see a DB get beat deep. You see like a blown coverage. Would you – one thing I've always – the old fake hamstring pull is always good.

Guy gets beat, you got to pull up fake hammy. Or the guys who palms up and look around. Like I know coaches, I don't want to see palms up like this looking around like, oh, what's going on here, bud? When usually it's the guy that got beat doing it. What's the most frustrating for you to see? And it will be that because at the end of the day, we out there as a group.

We got five to six dudes who out there trying to provide for their family. We out there. Sometimes people are going to mess up. We're not going to be perfect. At least we're trying to sometimes people going to mess up. We not going to be perfect. At least we trying to work to be perfect, but every play we can't be perfect because we plan to get some professionals on the other side too, so we got to respect that also. You feel me?

So just take the ownership, man. We come back in because when we sit down in the meetings together, we going to see everybody fuck up. You feel me? We ain't going to just see yours. We going to see everybody's. And we want everybody to take the same amount of accountability towards they they they messing up hey is john hardball what you thought uh he was gonna be when you got there yeah everything

you feel me me i remember meeting hardball coming out for the draft and i remember the whole little little trip there and hardball was just just rowdy and feisty dude, but also understood the family aspects of being so in tune for a football family, but then also the other side of it. The way he treats his family with his daughter and stuff like that, that shit is intriguing because he comes to work and he instills that back into us to see the relationship that he has with the guys that's in our locker room. It's 100, you feel me?

Is that something that is common around the league, I guess? Like you said, you see it and it inspires you to see how he treats his family, how he can still be a great coach and a great leader. I think people would be surprised that it's not as common as they would think. To be honest, it's really not. You feel me? Because some coaches, they don't really own up for their mess-ups. You feel me?

They sometimes are pointed at the players. You feel me? And we see certain situations happen in this league as trades start happening and the player gets blamed first before the coach end up taking some ownership for himself, you feel me? Because the coaches sometimes can help that player if they step out a little bit further. And on the other side for us, as players, we looking for that, you feel me?

We're not saying that we want somebody that's going to baby us and do things like that, but we looking for somebody who's willing to take that extra time to sit down and talk to them with me about if I'm messing up in the same zone. Or if I'm having a hard time off the field, you can take a little five minutes. It don't got to be a whole field, but just check up on me and do those small things because I'm coming to work every day, busting my tail for six or seven months away from my family. And you're doing the same. You feel me? Everybody go through things. The life ain't perfect. So we don't we all need those people to talk to, you feel me?

And then you look at it on the field. You see the teams who play like that because they playing together. You feel me? You see the whole unity, the thing working. You feel me? It's the team flow. It ain't just a team full of athletic guys who can be superstars one week and then fall off the next.

Connor? Marcus, there's a story online about you almost burning down Marshawn Lynch's house. What happened there? All right, so that shit is true. I was coming home from my baby shower for my first son, and I was going back to school in Seattle, and I came home with some lumpias,

and I had just been on some chilling show on the weekend on Sunday matter of fact I just got back and I'm just chilling but I end up turning on a little movie went up in there and I fell asleep because I got back probably like near day I fell asleep and the grease was on and shit by the end there's black smoke flowing through the house I ran downstairs to get my Uncle Lee and we started trying to put that thing out. That shit ain't nothing to play with though, bro.

For real, fire is scary as fuck, bro. Yeah, I'd say so. So how did it end? Was there a lot of damage? How did it end? It ended up with our kitchen. Everything in our kitchen was damaged.

We ended up having to get a new stove, a new oven,, new counter to all that little shit. Wow. The shit was black. The whole kitchen was black. How did Marshawn respond? Damn, dude. They was coming back from, I want to say they played Washington that week or something like that.

And they was coming back home. And they had just got off the bus like late that night. Like, bruh, the house was black. The house was on fire, bruh. I'm like, what? I'm like, the house was on fire. He like, quit playing,

bruh. I'm like, nah, for real, bruh. The house was on fire. He had to put that thing out. By the time he got to the house, he's seeing the whole aftermath. Me and my uncle, we all blacked up, smoked up. The fire department leaving as he's coming back. It was bad. The shit was crazy.

You guys are still friends though, right? Oh, yeah. We're family, man. Family comes first, man. Shit like that. That's just material stuff, man. We living and breathing. Man, you good. That's everything that can matter to me. that, man. That's just material stuff, man. We living and breathing. Man, you good.

That's everything that can matter to me. I love it. That's awesome. Hey, Marcus, really, really appreciate your time, man. Love watching you play. Continued success, and good luck this next year, man. Man, thank you. Appreciate that, big dog.

All right, Marcus Peters, everybody. Thank you. Thank you, Marcus. Woo-hoo! Man, awesome. Yeah. Awesome. I didn't know about the burning Marsie marchand's house no idea way down

yeah when like so what year would that have been you think um probably seven years ago maybe senior he said right yeah he's been he's been in the league six years doesn't really matter this is 2017 so okay well okay a couple years not six not seven ago as my math goes it's not seven years ago wow okay man i just guys that are ball hawks like him they intrigue me like i told you i play with charles woodson that guy but marcus like 31 picks is he only played six seasons so far 25 and he got traded to the ravens his first game he had a pick six on ross like he played the rams after he got traded they beat them 45 six he had a pick remember he got into it with Ramsey at the end of the game.

Yeah, in the tunnel. Remember, they were trying to meet up in the tunnel, weren't they? I love that. He's so good, man. He is. And he's not – I mean, that's the thing, though. If you're playing corner, you're putting on an island every single play. If you're not crazy confident in yourself, like, good luck.

Good luck stopping number one receivers every single week. I'd say all the time quarterback position is the number one spot where, hey, confidence is huge. You have to have confidence. I think number two behind that, corner. Safety, you can hide to other places a little bit, but you can't hide if you're a corner man. Connor, what did you play in high school?

You know, I spent some time at corner, but I mostly played linebacker. Jumping routes? Jumping those routes up there in New England? Yeah, you know, you just read the quarterback's eyes. All that film study, right? All your film study. I was, you know, eating dinner, watching film on my iPad. You know how it is.

Just like quarterbacks in the NFL. Just grinding. You're just grinding away. What was your high school called? Buckingham, Brown, and Nichols. And didn't you play in some, like, highfalutin, like, all-boys school league? Well, I don't know what falutin means, but yes, we did play in the independent school league. It wasn't all boys.

There were some public school, private schools, if you will. Gumpy, what about you in Canada? No football in our high schools till after I graduated. So what did you play? Hockey? Soccer. Massive soccer. Soccer's huge back home. What part are you from again? Victoria, British Columbia. Yeah, I know exactly

where that is. Ray by Seattle. You can take a ferry from downtown where I live to downtown Seattle. It's like two hours and 45 minutes. It's like Detroit and Windsor, Canada. Exactly. Different Canada though. You're from a very warmer

town. It's like beaches and sun. Does everyone speak English up there? Yeah. Yeah. What? What do you think they speak? French Canadians. The French Canadians.

Close to Quebec over there. Quebec, yeah. I know. I assume it's English where he's at. Connor. Sorry, you know everything about it. You're a geography master, too. That's right.

No, but it's mostly soccer and baseball were huge back home. Yeah. Canada's a good spot. I don't know if I've ever been to your hometown, but I've been around there. You like Canada? Love Canada. Spent some time in Windsor when I was 19.

Of course. Before you're 21, you've got to go to Windsor and, oh, watch these beers that are high alcohol content and emulsions. Yeah. Triple that. As I'm trying to find a $1.50 blackjack table to play because you can't, you know, I was in college. You're trying to go figure it out, man.

It was fun. In Calgary, it's 18, too. It's even younger. I like it. Hey, you know what? We're going to try to get to some calls here because I know we had a lot of people that have been waiting. You know what?

Man, sorry. Let's check out Rob in the Bay Area. Bob in the Bay. What's up, Rob? Hey, how's it going? Oh, great, buddy. check out Rob in the Bay Area. Bob in the Bay. What's up, Rob? Hey, how's it going? Oh, great, buddy. What do you got going on? Man, you know, I'm just enjoying this beautiful day.

I feel very blessed, of course, to be in California. Shout out to everybody dealing with the weather out in Texas and the east and the north. You guys are facing off with some crazy winter storm, so I'm keeping you guys in my prayers and thoughts. Hey. Thank you. I wanted to say I'd like to apologize

and shout out Gump, Evan, and CFO Phil. I had shouted out the whole gang a few months back, and I didn't mention their name. That was wrong of me. You guys are very important to the brand, so shout out to you guys. Thanks, man. Appreciate that. I remember you talking about that yeah yeah yeah it's all good man sorry about that um it's all good my question was for you aj uh shout out i had a question uh what's the most adversity you

faced in life on or off the field and how did you thank you documentary dude i appreciate the call i did not read what he had on the docket when i said his name the most advice i mean come on now there's people that have had crazy crazy adversity deaths in their family all kinds of situations trying to people i just listened to francis and ghanu mma fighter talk about growing up and working the sand mines and coming over i didn't have to deal with anything like that. I don't know, man. I've been very lucky off the field. On the field my senior year, my first game my senior year in high school,

I was a punter too. I was faking a punt, playing on my foot at the first down marker, and a dude chopped my knee, blasted my PCL out of there. I came, tried to play the next game, didn't go too well. Fucking booby miles. Ended up getting some surgery after that and then didn't know if Ohio State was going to pull my scholarship. So in the moment, yeah,

that was adversity for me. I felt like, oh, I don't know. And then I came back and played the last two games my senior year in high school and was able to still go to Ohio State. But I thought that was some huge adversity at the time. It was good, though. Ultimately, it helped me learn how to take care of my body and take care of my knee. Did I see Penn State was looking at you for a little bit?

For a second, yeah. Who did you meet with? Oh, man, who did I meet? Jay Paterno was there at the time. Joe Paterno, I saw him. I don't know if he knew he was recruiting me at all, but he was there. Jay was there. Nebraska.

I'm saying I don't know if he knew I was even on the trip. Joe was a legend at the time. I think that's pretty much all that I had met with over there. Ohio State, Penn State tonight. Here we go. Oh, really? Big matchup. Basketball.

Ohio State, minus four and a half. Good team this year. They are a good team. Very good. The coach, Holtman, right? Sure. Big time booster. He's actually a very good coach.

I know that much. Zeke, what are you alluding to? What do you mean? No, I was just wondering. I was looking at your Wikipedia right now. Oh, gosh. What about the national championship when you were down, AJ? Maurice Claret.

Were we down? Did Maurice Claret make that tackle? Remember Maurice Claret? That was fucking good. Sean Taylor gets a pick. Sean Taylor's returned the pick. Maurice says, nope, that's mine, and rips it from him in one of the biggest plays ever, I would imagine,

in the national championship game. People get so mad and say we didn't deserve to win and whatever. It's a questionable call then. The only thing is I don't care about arguing about it, but we shouldn't have been there. We were supposed to get blown out. I was only a freshman. I didn't do anything really.

Special teams and a couple plays on defense. We had some absolute monsters that were upperclassmen. And Maurice Claret, that was a true freshman at that time. But we shouldn't have been in the game. It should never have been that close was my question. If you want to say, hey, it was a bad call, all right, well, then you guys should have beat us by 30. Well, you had to come in and play, right?

Didn't the guy ahead of you get hurt or something? Not in that game. No, not in that game. Mangold. That happened to Nick. Mangold's played the whole national championship as a true freshman. Did you ever deal with the guy who suspended Claret? Did you ever have any run-ins with him?

What do you mean? Well, there was like the head DA or whatever. Oh, Andy Geiger was the AD at the time. He was gone shortly after that. Yeah, I mean, I saw him, talked to him. I wasn't in any trouble at the time. But, yeah, it was a weird time because Maurice and I came in the same class. Maurice was, like, player of the year in the country, I think, out of high school.

Was already a stud. His first game ever. The whole place, 110,000 people chanting his name. I was like, man, this is pretty sweet. This is pretty amazing. And, yeah, he had a. I was like, man, this is pretty sweet. This is pretty amazing. And, yeah, he had a heck of a year, year and a half about. And then I don't know what happened. Honestly, it's crazy to think about.

Troy Smith was in that class too. Troy redshirted. A lot of great players. Santonio Holmes, whatever. How tight are you with Craig Crensel still? Pretty good. Craig actually lives like a minute from me. I was just curious.

He's got some kids that are stud baseball and basketball players. Really? Smart. My one son, Craig, might coach him soon. Really? Craig coaches everything. Craig's like a – he's like you. He's like a whiz kid, super genius.

Former Bears quarterback. Yeah. Got a win. Was it a Monday night game? Craig got a win back in the day? I was a huge Craig Cranston fan. Oh, yeah. So was I.

Craig's two years older than me. So my freshman year, he was a junior. We won the national championship. My second year, we had a chance to get back. We got beat by Michigan last game of the regular season. They were really good. But Craig, man, talk about like I was 18 years old. I'm coming in.

I knew of Craig, and I see him dealing with him. I'm like, this guy, he doesn't think or speak or do anything like anyone I've ever met. Like, he was that, like, he was so weirdly intellectual and, like, just real smart. And I don't know. He ran things. He was a good leader, man. I appreciate it, Craig. Do you still hate Michigan with all your soul?

Sure. I mean. I mean. I can say. So, people in Ohio don't say Michigan. People don't say Michigan. Michigan. Yeah.

Well. I can't believe you said Michigan a second ago. I'm grandfathered in. Coach Trestle said Michigan. He was my coach. And Urban, I love Urban, too. But Urban started that whole thing. And they crossed off the M's.

I'm like, I'm sorry. It happens all the time in Ohio. People are like, oh, my God. Oh, you said Michigan. Oh, my God. It's like a Voldemort. Give General Bob a heart attack. Luckily, Bob says Michigan because Bob's grandfathered in, too.

I understand what Urban was doing with that and why it happens because Bob's grandfathered in too. I understand what Urban was doing with that and why it happens. It's cool how it works. Sometimes I just think you're showing them too much respect by doing all that. It's not a rivalry anymore. It was a rivalry when I was there. That was 15 years ago.

Did you guys have the clock in the weight room when you were there too? I think we did have the Michigan clock. Count down to the next time because? I think we did have the Michigan clock, yeah. Count down to the next time. Because it was still a big deal with Coach Trestle. We did all kinds of stuff for it. It just wasn't, I guess the whole saying their name wasn't involved back then. That's something Urban brought.

Now Urban's down in Jacksonville. How do you think he's going to do? Unbelievable. Really? Why is that? I mean, I don't know. He's got schlags. Schlags is a strength coach.

If they get Trevor Lawrence, I mean mean we're talking about trevor lawrence as being the next guy i mean if he turns out to be half of what everyone expects him i'm worried about trevor lawrence just the expectations placed on him like okay justin herbert he comes in tears it up rookie of the year offensive right what were people didn't have crazy expectations for him he gets what tyrod taylor gets stabbed in the lung he gets thrust in the lineup plays great and then continues to play great which is very impressive but their expectations weren't there with herbert i guess it's kind of like a joe burrow type thing he had high expectations and joe still played very well for a team that wasn't that great and jacksonville they may be you know we'll see how they do i don't know like okay oh where's uh old buddy

old mullet boy he's you yeah minchu he's still there yeah so he's i mean i don't know. Like, oh, where's old buddy, old mullet boy? Minshew? Yeah, Minshew. He's still there. Yeah. So, I mean, I don't know. Is Minshew going to take the majority of the reps in camp if Trevor's still coming back from that non-throwing shoulder injury? Like, what are we going to do? No, I mean, Minshew is an afterthought.

He had a great run down there. Someone should pick him up then, though. Mustaches. Wouldn't a team that needs a transition guy, like, wouldn't he be a good guy? Like a stopgap manager for a year? For a year, this guy can. Yeah, he would be perfect. I mean, I would love New England to have Minshew.

That would put some – Sell some tickets, you know. You know what? We know Bill really vibed with Cam's, like, personality, and people didn't think that could happen with Minshew and everything he has. I think Bill would vibe with that. Absolutely. Hey, he beat the Colts in week one.

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I mean, maybe. How you doing? Keep it moving. Vitamins down here where I'm at is potentially legal. I mean, maybe we have a good time a little bit, AJ. Great to be here, though. Cannot wait to talk to our next guest, AJ. We're talking.

I've been looking forward to this for a long time, pal. I know. Well, he's not on the line just yet, Pat, but we are going to be speaking with Ty dill you see what that's like you see what that's like by the way yeah i do i see exactly what it's like i just told the boys first off your clutter on this desk i've been i don't mean to but your gun just fell over i've been knocking stuff i'm about to knock everything off of this desk. There's so much on here. Clutter? No, no, no. Clutter implies that it's randomly placed. Those things are all put right

where they need to be. Do you know which batteries work and which don't? I don't think you do. Yeah, I do, actually. In the cartridge. Alright. Alright, we got a guest on. He's on the line. Our guy's on the line. We need to go to our guest. But if the plus, if the bump is up, it's good. Bumps are done.

Like when you open it, you just flat bottom batteries, you know? Bad. They're already been gone. Bump is up brand new, pal. I got a system. There's no clutter and shit. That thing has been pieced together as if Picasso was doing it, pal. Hey, Pat, you know you've been talking.

Do you want to introduce our guest, our next one who's coming on? No, no, you're the host, man. You closed out that first hour in such a good tease for this intro that I'm here for. You're right. So, hey, join us now. We have NASCAR Xfinity Cup Series. He's in the second place right now, having a hell of a year. Mr. Ty Dillon, welcome to the show.

Let's go, Ty Dillon! I follow you guys. Big fan of the show, so glad to be on. Know you guys are a big NASCAR show, so I reached out to Pat. He said, hey, if you guys need any advice, I can do a little Q&A for you guys. We'll get you guys tuned up. Hey, Ty. We appreciate that, obviously.

Hold on one second, Pat. He can't hear me. He can't hear a word I'm saying. No, he can't hear anything. Nobody can hear you, Pat. There's no way anyone can hear you. He's a NASCAR driver. Please let me talk to my friend who's a NASCAR driver, AJ.

This is not your friend. Okay, this guy's my friend. He's a NASCAR driver. Please. Take it, Pat. It's all you. Ty. I want to let you know know i have driven the pace car

okay for a you found the gun good way to go ty he's been fucking in the shit over here i don't know if you know this ty he's been messing with all my stuff he's broke everything thus far let's get to all right no baseball bats needed back there okay we're talking to a race car driver ty thank you for your time even though

aj is trying to just make it a mockery race car driver. Ty, thank you for your time. Even though AJ's trying to just make it a mockery, I want to let you know, thank you for your time, especially here in between two day 10 races. So, last week, we had the 500. His name is not Mitch McConnell. It's not Mitch McDowell. It's Mike McDowell wins that thing.

Now, this upcoming week, it's a road course. Are you going to win it? How much should I bet on that? And what is the big difference between what we saw last week coming up this upcoming week? For those of us that maybe don't know NASCAR as well as we should. Yeah, man. So Mitch McDowell, Michael McDowell, he's actually a close friend of mine. So that was a cool moment. I would have personally been in that race.

We had a race-in race on Thursday night that I missed qualifying for the race by about three feet. A guy beat me at the line on the last lap. They call it the duels. So it was the first one I've missed in seven years. So it was a little bit of a heartbreaker weekend for us, but I ran the race on Tuesday, which is actually on the track that we're going to be running this weekend in the Cup Series. And a little niche thing that I might be on trivia for. I ran the first race for Michael Jordan and his team last Tuesday night on this racetrack. So I'm with a different team now this weekend. And you got a question?

You're on team Jordan. I didn't know you were a Jordan athlete. When you became a Jordan athlete and were you, Bubba Wallace I knew was on Team Jordan. Who else? What's the squad look like? Denny Hamlin's got the Jordan thing right there on his belt. Is he a Team Jordan guy as well? So I was for one race.

So I qualified for this race. It was like an all-star race, kind of a pre-race to the season. I qualified. Bubba didn't. I won a stage in the middle of a race last year, which qualified me for this race. So they needed somebody to fill in. And I was the guy they chose. My career, I've been in the Cup Series full time for the past four years.

And our team shut down right at the end of the year. So it's been tough getting back on my feet and just putting together one race at a time to try to get back into the full time gig. So this is one of my opportunities this weekend. And they were able to help me out getting that first first ride for michael jordan which is a big moment for for my career and uh it went well i was running eight and uh or ninth and we had two loose lugs and if you don't come in and tighten those up it's ten uh ten thousand dollars a lug on the wheel that's

loose and crew chief gets suspended hey ty on that note a little bit i've i've heard an ugly rumor from some people that that seem to know nascar they say hey if we win a race you know you see people do they're gonna go do you know do donuts in the in the uh infield and they're gonna crash their car maybe into the wall and they do that so when the post-race inspection comes it doesn't see that they have been cheating have you heard anything about this well there has been some alleged attempts at things like that i'd say over the years um you know nascar is it's a really tight box as far as what you do on the race car and manipulating um you know the rules and that's kind of the game we live in just as you you might do it with kicking footballs or um there was a you know a guy who just won a Super Bowl who had some issues with some of his footballs back in the day. Everybody pushes the limits in everything they do.

So that sometimes happens in NASCAR, and no one's ever really been busted for doing that. But you hear rumors. So people are doing that to get actual ponies, a little hidden pony power under the hood? What are the things you guys, for instance, kickers, we're trying to get the ball beat up as much as possible. The alleged incident that you referred to that I will now have to talk about, although I did not legitimize it, the deflation of footballs for Tom Brady back in the day whenever they beat us by 50, that was so that he could get a better grip on it. The beat up balls for kickers so it they travel further normally like five to seven yards further

with a beat-up ball what are the cheaters in nascar trying to do add a little pony power to the car and what are the regulations on that thing yeah so so there's there's massive regulations and nascar has done a good job of as far as officiating it but uh the big thing in our sport is downforce so downforce is the grip to our football, which is our tires pretty much that allow us to race the car harder, go faster. So we spend millions and millions of dollars on wind tunnels. And just to find a count of downforce is, you know, we'll spend whatever it takes to find that. So there's been a lot of attempts to do things outside the box to gain that little bit

of grip that can account to a tenth of a second on the track and if you gain a tenth of a second over 500 laps over the field you're going to have that advantage so that's our big our big goal there and so you know when when our teams are put together our score isn't ran off of just this sanctioning body like so NFL pays out all the teams after the year as far as what their revenue is nascar doesn't do that each individual team has to gather their sponsorship dollars to be able to provide the funding to to make their cars better so you guys putting salt bags in the trunk so you get a little bit more don force what is that is that what you guys are trying to do out there that's crazy crazy. That's a good idea, I guess.

Sorry, AJ. Go ahead, pal. No, I was actually throwing to Connor. Connor had something good he wanted to say. Yeah, Ty, we saw some guys driving with fire starting in their cars. Has that ever happened to you? I had one last year that started up inside the car. It's kind of one of those moments where I knew where it was coming from.

I kind of knew the amount of time I had, and I was hoping it was going to go out. Luckily it did. I stayed in, kept the race going. Um, and, uh, it was actually, I think it was at Daytona or Talladega where, where it happened. And I stayed in the race. It was with about 30 laps to go. The fire luckily went out. It started underneath the dash, um, is electrical fire.

So I kind of knew what it was and I was hoping it went out and it, and it did. And, uh, I kept going in the race and, um, you know, it, it helps I kind of knew what it was, and I was hoping it went out, and it did, and I kept going in the race. And, you know, it helps to kind of know where the fires are coming from. Yeah, I would assume that you were hoping the fire would go out while you were racing. How fast did you guys go? How fast did the NASCAR go? It depends on what track.

Like Daytona, I think the fastest lap ran was an average of 200 miles per hour, so we're getting up to 205, 207. Yeah, it's been higher. My hardest impact was that Michigan Speedway. I think I hit the wall around 215. Somebody had a battery fall out of their car, and it went through the radiator of my car. It's on YouTube.

You can find it. That one left an impact for sure. How do we have all these professional car builders and batteries are just dropping out of the goddamn thing that's a question for a whole nother day okay we'll dive into that you crashing at 215 miles an hour i watched the doc me uh with mcgee okay mcgee uh from espn's marty and mcgee i watched mcgee's intimidator e60 thing about Dale Earnhardt. That was fascinating. Okay, so I didn't know much about NASCAR.

Okay, I grew up in Pittsburgh, not a lot of racing. I come to Indianapolis. IndyCar is the thing. My wife loves IndyCar, so I learned a lot about IndyCar. Didn't know much about NASCAR. I think we did something with you, actually, when you came to the Colts. I think I got a chance to meet you then, which was awesome. But as I started to learn here about NASCAR,

the Hans thing that you guys wear over your shoulders that connects to the helmet, that wasn't always something that existed. There was like nine guys that died in 10 years, and Dale Earnhardt was one of them or whatever, and now this Hans thing's in place. The safety of those cars, you guys are getting in rockets and driving around.

The safety right now is that an all-time high i assume but you still have to go in there what just piss and shit your pants out of fear every single time you walk in yeah no it's um it's definitely still still very dangerous but the safety has come a long ways and and that's kind of where my my background in racing comes from actually my grandfather owned dalyard hearts race team. So when that happened, that was a big impact to our family, obviously. And the sport really took a jump as far as getting a lot safer. Now, luckily, mostly things you hear about is concussions and stuff like that, like any other sport is dealing with.

But the advancements in technology, NASCAR puts a lot of time and resource into that too for our safety, which we all really appreciate. But the Hans device was a big one just to keep your neck from not going past a a critical length when you hit the wall and some of the slow motion testing that we see that mimics kind of some of our impacts and some of the in-car camera footage is quite scary when you when you see it in our sport but you know we get paid paid to do a dangerous sport. We get paid well to do it, and so that's part of the risk, and that's kind of what makes us the special few that are 43

that get to do what we do. Ty, what kind of driver are you in the snow? And I only ask this because I drove here from Ohio today to Indianapolis, and probably 10 minutes from my house in Ohio, I came to a four-way stop. There's like six cars already there, two in front of me. I started sliding, couldn't recover, realized I'm going to blast these people right in the back. So I, my grandpa taught me, he was a little drift car driver, pump the brakes a little bit and steer out of it and don't panic. So I just maneuvered around all of these cars. Luckily they were all paying attention and they didn't hit me.

They could have easily driven through and hit me, but made it i felt good about it and it made me think of you like hey do you have any extra tricks or what are you doing the snow yeah i mean it's nice to be talking to a real life lifesaver here today a big big moment for you so that's that's awesome um no i i think if you ask my wife she'd say i'm a terrible driver in the snow and in the ice we're in montana she's she's from Seattle, so she's got probably better experience than me. We were in Montana going on a ski trip, and I almost drove us both off into a ditch one day. Similar situation. I was stopping.

With racing and driving on ice, if you start to lock up the brakes and you're on the brake pedal, you get that ABS. We don't have ABS, but you get that locked up, and can't really do anything the more you can kind of release the brake it actually helps slow you down better so that was uh what your i guess your grandfather said was exactly right it's good to know okay i'm happy hey by the way you're making a mockery out of me potentially breaking my neck okay it's a slap in the face to everybody that's ever stepped foot into a steel cage wrestling room. Okay, AJ? Swallow your night out.

Look out for Hulk Hogan. I wrestled last night. The disrespectful shit you just did right there. Young Rock would have slapped you in the mouth. Andre the Giant smacked you in the mouth right now. I wouldn't have said the F word. I would not have said the F word to Andre the Giant. Yeah, by the way, you did watch. Okay, shout out to you.

Great show. Young Rock. Can't wait to see it. Tuesday's on NBC., you did watch. Okay, shout out to you. Great show. Young Rock. Can't wait to see it. Tuesday's on NBC. 91% fresh. It's on Peacock. It's on Peacock. Really not really.

The show stinks. It was universally loved. Universally. The show stinks. Speaking of driving in snow, they're putting dirt down on Bristol, aren't they? It's going to be a dirt track race down in Bristol. What's that change? Are you guys racing your NASCARs on there? Is it Spr they? It's going to be a dirt track race down in Bristol. What's that change? Are you guys racing your NASCARs on there?

Is it Sprint car that's going to be in there? What type of dirt track racing should we be looking for? And does that mean everybody's going to crash like everything? Is that what that means? It's going to happen in Bristol? Yeah, pretty much. It's going to be a unique deal. NASCARs ran on dirt with cars before.

It was actually trucks. I ran in dirt with with cars before is actually trucks i ran in that that was dirt racing is actually my background going around local tracks all around the northeast and southeast and that's where i grew up racing so i'm pumped that we're putting dirt on a racetrack and we're going to actually drive our cup cars on that track so it's going to be exciting nobody really knows what to expect we used to back in the day be able to go test at these tracks before we raced on it but we get zero practice at all we pretty much now with with covid we show up and race um and hope all the parts and pieces stay on and go out and put on a show so it's going to be quite the experience and um you know i'm looking forward to that race thing it's going to be a big one down there in

tennessee time wouldn't racing wouldn't racing be a sport that COVID couldn't affect? I mean, aren't you, like, quarantined in the middle of fucking nowhere? How come they don't let you guys do any practices? Yeah, I think just contact with the guys on our team. We travel with about 12 to 15 people per team each week. So a lot of the travel and being in the garage is together. If we were to practice, I'm working with all those guys getting in and out of the race car. So contact is tough.

But we were one of the first sports to come back, and pretty much our rules are that we show up three or four hours before the race and sit in the motorhome or sit in the car and wait. And 10 minutes before the race, we hop out with our suits on, get in the race car, do our job, and fly back home to wherever we're heading. Legendary. Ty, one of my favorite NASCAR clips of all time is KY socking Joey Logano in the moth. Have you ever gotten any dust-ups? Is there anyone you'd consider a rival that you race against?

Man, there's been a couple over the years. You can look them up. I'm sure there's a there's a hit list on on youtube of some of my younger days of getting in it with some people um probably the biggest one was uh last year's champion chase elliott when he was his first ever truck race i believe i was leading the points in that series and just for those fans who were part of the show that are you know big nascar fans the truck series would be a lot like our AA series in baseball, maybe close to college football,

but the Xfinity series is more like college football to us. So when I was in the truck series, I was leading the points at a race, and he came in on the last corner, and he crashed me, ended up beating me. And we had words afterwards, and there's been a couple other situations like that. And there's allegedly a hammer thrown at another driver in one of the races that i was in there's been some uh there's been some dust-ups on my part when in my younger days so can i also you're the one that threw the hammer okay so let's uh you just kind of shout out the hammer down by the way hammer is much smarter than you know it's like football guys aj aj's fingers look like

they're bananas going in different directions because he had to grab jerseys and throw jerseys and then he would get upset you know quick fuse he got so he threw a punch right at a helmet you know and only the stooges in football do that they throw punches at helmets but i see a nascar you guys are all about throwing punches right to the helmet, punching windows. Is there ever any strategy talk like, hey, we need body blows if we get into a real fight with another NASCAR driver instead of the headhunt? Or let's throw more hammers or wrenches or things like that. Is there ever any conversations for strategy in apres race race fights and stuff like that i think the same rules apply i think you're not real intelligent if you're if you're throwing blows at helmets for

sure you got an uppercut if you are and then uh you know you got to wait till that helmet comes off and then go for it if that's going to be the case so you know a few years ago nascar kind of opened it back up and said have at it boys, boys. We want to see some excitement. So our sport is coming alive, and we're having a lot of fun. I'm sorry, AJ. Maybe my last question here. I don't know how much time you have. My AirPods are going to die. It's going to be my exit from this is my AirPods are just going to die.

I'm not going to be able to do anything. So whenever that happens. You said that they said, open it up, have at it, boys, if you've got to do what you've got to do. Back in the day while watching The Intimidator E60 thing And learning about it He was a heel

He was trying to be a wrestling heel He was okay with it You guys kind of have to get along Don't you? Because if you have a real asshole in there That kind of ruins everybody's life Potentially at any given moment Don't you guys all kind of have to have Because that's a sport where you the respect level has to be all

time high because there's a chance you can fucking end it right now for somebody in both life and race how do you balance that in those are there people that are very difficult to get along with in the series in there and everybody knows it when when you see their car coming you're like i ain't rubbing with that guy. I ain't failing that guy. Is there some of that in there as well? Yeah, definitely. There's some unique dynamics across the board. We all have to travel and see each other so often.

It's not like we're individual teams playing in individual stadiums. That's one of the aspects. You kind of have to live with seeing the guy the next week every time. It does happen and and there are certainly guys that are like you you know who you're racing against and um you know some guys i might give a chance going in the corner or two corners but there's a couple guys out there that i don't give them more than one chance and and uh you just know the the attitude of the people you're racing against there's unique dynamics like i said and um but we're all going out there

trying to to make a living and and win races and and at the end we all have that respect of hey you got to do what you got to do to to to be number one in our sport so everybody knows the risk that goes with it if you want to block me or you know you're you're going to run a chance of of uh getting her crashed and and uh you know it's part of it. Hey, Ty, we really, really appreciate you coming on, appreciate everything that you do. I'm going to try to tune in and watch some more NASCAR because of you, and especially if you're going to be throwing hammers and wrenches at other drivers.

The possibility is there. I will be watching. But, Ty, thank you very much. Really appreciate your time. Ladies and gentlemen, Ty Dillon. Thank you. He's a good guy, Pat. Hey, good NASCAR talk.

Yeah. You obviously you're really deep into NASCAR. Hey, that Intimidator E60 thing was an eye opener, dude. He was out there cutting promos. You know, he had these big sunglasses

on. Country ass. Country ass. These big old sunglasses on. People were just scared to death whenever he was trying. He was a full heel. He's doing what he's not supposed to do around here and around. That whole thing. And then he went out protecting for his kid.

It's just like, I really got into it after watching that ty dylan and i did something uh they did a they started doing a nascar race at the indianapolis 500 the brickyard they started doing the brickyard and it's right at the beginning of our season so they asked us to do a little marketing thing with them it was me matt overton and ty dylan all i remember from that shoot is they gave me a cowboy hat and i said yeehaw twice that's all i know but i don't think anybody went to the race and that's a shame because i'm really starting to love watching nascar at this

point did you ever have anyone tell you that you should uh be one of the the pit crew i've had guys tell me hey the pit crew is like big jacked up dudes they just work out together all day and slide across the hood and change tires like does anyone try to push you to that funny you say that aj um there are a lot of ex-college football players, actually. You don't make the league. You get recruited in to be the pick crew. Evan Fox and I went down to Charlotte, North Carolina. I forget which team.

Do you remember what team that was, Foxy? This might be wrong. It wasn't Hendricks, was it? I'm pretty sure it was. It was Hendricks Motorsport. Back whenever we were with Barstool, I went down there. There was a deal made. And the night before, we stopped by Dale Earnhardt Jr, I went down there, there was a deal made and the night before

we stopped by Dale Earnhardt Jr.'s bar. Oh yeah. And we shut down Dale Earnhardt Jr.'s bar that night as well. And then 7.30 a.m. came and it was like, hey, we got to go shoot and be a member of this pit crew team. And that practice

was no joke, AJ. I almost puked on a NASCAR four or five times this sprinting we lifted weights we ran sprints they have strength and conditioning coaches they live in a facility there they have an entire gym they have a practice station practice car that is something that they all really try to take advantage of and the more and more you watch racing like if you get a picture that saves you two seconds you might as well have just moved up four or four spots. It's a real deal thing.

They're paying real money to the guys, too. They are. So, Pat, I know your AirPods are going to die, and we know you're going to get back to your semi-short vacation that you're taking down there. You will be back Monday, right? Yeah, I'll be back Monday. What the fuck do you think this is?

Okay, come on. All right, whatever. So, I had to get your opinion before you got off the show before your AirPods die. You know, Pat, after five years of professional baseball, Timmy Tebow, he's done. He's retiring now. What do you think? Do you think it's time?

Should he have hung him up or should he have stuck around? You know, Tim Tebow is going to make the right decision. When Tim Tebow makes a decision, I trust Tebow's decision. Tebow, though, for a long time has wanted to chase this dream of being a professional baseball player. We talked to him down at the Super Bowl two years ago in Atlanta.

He was an incredible human, came in there, shook everybody's hand. There was no ounce of bullshit from Tim Tebow at all. We have never been more surprised meeting a human being. Now, I wish Ty would learn from that experience and how he addresses Russell Wilson going forward, but Tim Tebow was nice to everybody. He lived up to every single expectation and standard that you would ever think of,

the potential son of Jesus Christ, Tim Tebow. Whenever we talked to him, he said, like, he's not going to let numbers or failure or anybody else tell him what his dreams and visions are. He was all in on baseball because the way we asked him the question was like, you could go be

a model anywhere right now. He could go be the face of any product on earth right now Tim Tebow could get. He could be on ESPN all day if he wanted to. He can make all this money. I said said but you're focusing on his baseball thing while you're riding in buses sleeping in like days ins maybe motel sixes like what are you doing he's like it's my dream it's my dream it's my dream so i wish he would have made it to the big leagues i wish he would have

hit a home run a donger i wish he would have got a chance to live out that absolute childhood dream but now it's time for tim tebow to come back into the entertainment world save more lives with the introduction of jesus christ and uh probably take over every potential job that i was almost up for well but technically isn't russell wilson still a professional baseball player no he's not a professional baseball player. He only does spring training. Ty, tell him, please. You know what? A lot of people were saying to me, like, oh, Ty's going to be so excited that Tebow

retired. You know what? I'm not. I mean, hats off to the guy. He did what he had to do, but someone finally told him, like, hey, Tim, this takes a lot of time and effort and energy, and even if you give it all that, you're still probably going to fucking stink. So, like, you're not going to make the big leagues. Go make a lot of time and effort and energy. And even if you give it all that, you're still probably going to fucking stink. So, like, you're not going to make it to the big leagues.

Go make a bunch of money at ESPN. Go talk about SEC football. You're great at it. Everyone loves it. You can't hit a goddamn curveball, dude. It's been five years. Now, also, to be fair, him and his wife are probably going to have a reality TV show that's going to make them. I mean, that's why we thought this.

What network would that be on, though? What's that? What network would that be on? Would he put it out himself? Put it out himself. He goes, Tim Tebow's the platform. What are you talking about? Tim Tebow's the network.

KDSPN rents the Tebow network every once in a while. That's what happens. It's a whole thing that goes around. But I think that is why we have all been so surprised that he continued to play baseball because i guess once every other week or so maybe once a month we'd see him at a home run and we're like okay tim he's doing good and then we'd never see him in real baseball you know you'd be selling out all these tiny little towns and it's like tim if you're not gonna make it up there man you can you can literally do 15 other things and be the best in the world at them.

And I think that is what I'm excited about. Like, okay, let's see Tim focusing on other things that we think he's going to be great at. But I'm happy he got to live out his dream. And he got a chance to play. He was a professional baseball player for numerous years. Hit some home runs, did his thing, and just never made it to the top, which needed Michael Jordan. Needed Michael Jordan.

Hey, he made it a lot farther than most everybody else in professional baseball. But, hey, Pat, I know your time is coming to an end. I'm shocked that your phone actually still has battery left. I know your AirPods are dying. Anything you want to get off your chest before we let you roll? You're doing a great job, AJ. Fantastic job. I thought you were going to stink. You did a fantastic job, honestly honestly i appreciate your hospitality to me while i'm phoning in here for a much warmer climate and

i think you've done a magnificent job the end of the first hour not your best but everything else was so damn good we don't need to stop now uh the boys incredible performance today boys was what you were able to do and accomplish the The graphics, the punchlines, the barking to the serious that some channelers do not know about. The added to the conversations. You boys had a great day today. Hey, boys, great day today. You know that?

Thank you. Great day. Thank you. Enjoy those claws. But for me, it's time for me to digest some things. It's time for me to inhale some things. Hell, yeah. And it's time for me to digest some things. It's time for me to inhale some things. Hell yeah. And it's time for me to have a little three-day weekend.

I will be back Monday. AJ, I do believe you'll be enjoying or joining us then. I'm about to go ahead and stare out at the ocean here, think about some things, come back with a whole new game plan. And when I know and realize that Carson Wentz is going to be our quarterback next year, I'm going to have to come up with a pretty deep explanation why I completely turned on thinking that that guy fucking stunk at football to why I think he's good.

And that's what these next three days are for. And I can't wait for it. I appreciate you all back there. Enjoy the ice and the snow. I'll bring some sand. This wind, though, I would never wish this wind upon anybody that we have down here. But I hope you guys have a great weekend. And viewers, listeners, you're the best humans on planet Earth.

AJ, you're the best. Safe travels back to Ohio. Thank you. One second, Pat. Nick has something for you. Pat, real quick, I just want to say thank you so much for somehow being miles away on a beach and still having a better internet connection than AJ Hawkins out home. Why would I throw it to you, Nick?

I had control of that. Why would I throw it to you if I knew that was what you were going to say? Well, that's the thing about that back room behind the glass. You never know what narrative they're going to just burn to the ground at any given moment because they like to see fire and flames and people in bad situations. With that being said, a lot of people have been saying around here, just at this beach that I'm at currently,

that it's amazing that here I am on a tiny little island. I don't see a tower in sight. There is 40,000 people on this beach, too, because everybody came to where I am at right now. Hasn't broken apart one time. AJ's up there smoking, what, 62 1⁄2 to 80 1⁄2 puffs a day in his house, which is built like a goddamn mansion, mega mansion villa. He's got no internet. That's because AJ doesn't care about the show until he's in the studio. It has been very nice to see you crush this, AJ.

I appreciate it. Hey, you know what? I have been very surprised by your connection there on the beach, but you're one of those Illuminati. You got 5G. You had 5G like four years ago, so you fine you think i'm illuminati i'm the person the illuminati didn't want to get rich now that is who i am all right that is pat mcafee from the pat mcafee show thanks pat appreciate it man hey i'll see you dude have a good one I am about to get real high Hey, real

Hey, Pat, why don't you Hey, if you want to Maybe check back in like at 248 And we'll just see how it's going Alright, that sounds good I'll do that if I remember My wife just told you all to go fuck yourself I will see you guys

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