The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 359 - Chris Godwin, Josh Norman, and AJ Hawk

Episode Date: February 23, 2021

On today’s show Pat and the boys dive deep into conversation about off-season NFL rummors and end with discussing the latest in Tiger Woods news. Pat and the boys are joined by two amazing guests. First being All-Pro, Pro-Bowler, and super bowl champion Chris Godwin. They chatted about the previous season, addition of Tom Brady and other offensive weapons, and his upcoming free agency. Next Pat dives deep into the NFL quarterback carausel with the playing destination of Deshaun Watson, Russel Wilson and many more being up in the air. Former All-Pro Corner and current corner for the Buffalo Bills Josh Norman joins Pat and AJ. They talk Norman finding his life calling outside of football, which receivers are the hardest to guard, and what to expect from him going forward. Pat explains the latest collecting craze that is NBA top Shot. Lastly Pat, AJ, and the boys all discuss the latest in Tiger Woods car accident. Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow and listen every day on Mad Dog Radio, Sirius XM Channel 82. We appreciate you all for listening, come and laugh with us, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello, how you doing? Tuesday, February 23rd. Can't thank you enough for giving us an opportunity to chat into your ear holes. Good conversations today. Hey, good combos today. Obviously, Tiger Woods news happened, so we had to talk about that as it was happening in real time. Chris Godwin, Josh Norman, everything else going on in the world. If you like the show, by the end of it, please be a friend, tell a friend. If not, just act like it never happened. Let's get to it. Shout out Mitt editing this thing. Money Mitt is it never happened. Let's get to it. Shout out Mitt editing this thing. Money Mitt is editing this thing.

Let's get to it. There is some news popping off in the sports world. Allegedly, Deshaun Watson has okayed three different spots for him to be traded to if he was to be traded to, but the Houston Texans have stated over and over again, we are not trading the player. We're not even answering calls. So if Deshaun Watson has reportedly gave the okay to three different locations,

who's he giving the okay to, the media? Or is he giving the okay to Cesario, who now has a gig with the Houston Texans as general manager, as the whole place is burning down. Now, we do understand that Deshaun Watson does have a lot of control on this whole thing. If he just wants to sit out the entire season, the Houston Texans won't have a quarterback, and they'll

be in a tough situation yet again next year. But the Houston Texans can also say, we ain't trading you. Sorry, pal. You're too fucking good at the football. We ain't trading you, which is what they've said. I have a feeling, though, that this guy that I'm wearing right on my chest, old Jack Easterman, he's going to have something to say to this. Him and Deshaun potentially going to pray their way back into

the good graces of each other. Maybe they will get the Houston Texans into a good position, but it seems like the more and more we talk about it, the more and more the days go by, the more and more information that gets handed out that Deshaun Watson's okay going to the Jets, the Dolphins, or the Panthers, the more and more it feels like the Houston Texans might be forced to trade this guy or not have a quarterback for the entire season. Deshaun will miss out on a lot of money, but he can make that money up other places. He has a burger place, if you do recall, or a sandwich place

that actually caused a COVID violation this year whenever his teammates went down there. The guy's got business ventures. He's got money. He's going to be an incredible football player. Maybe a year off, taking a little time to himself. Maybe go and do a little business ventures and maybe, you know, rest the body a little bit. Maybe he'll be even better next year, but he will still have to be Houston Texan until they say you can leave.

Who knows what Jack Eastbury is going to do, but if I know anything about one fish, two fish, red fish, blue fish, Jack Eastbury, he'll do the right thing in the end. That's what Jack Eastbury does. Speaking of doing the right thing in the end, fresh off a vacation, fresh off a blown tire in his new pickup truck fresh

with a brand new tan joining us uh back in studio covet cowboy welcome back tone how was the vacation how was the trip awesome you know just drink some booze and get some sun a lot of booze i seen yeahed out. Yeah, I was keeping up with you on the internet. I forgot to eat. See? That can happen. By the way, I was going to say you look good. And I don't know if it's because if you can't tone it, tan it, you know, because you do have a little bit of color. I have gained a lot.

It also does seem... Oh, you have. So you did eat and drink late night. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I did see you pass out on a pizza box. I was wondering who was eating a pizza because I had a bunch of those, by the way. What? What happened? I forgot to eat and I drank a lot. Then he passed out on what he was supposed to eat.

Get off the guy. Eat it. He's an adult. That was Friday. My wife's birthday was Saturday. I knew Saturday was going to be her day, so Friday's my day.

Heroes. Kobe Cowboy. Tony Friday. Speaking of sports, though, let's get back to sports. Yes. You went into your COVID cave for, what, two, three weeks

or whatever, lost some weight, became one of the best gamblers in history because you were just diving into the stats and analytics and everything um whenever you hear mike tomlin has covet right now he got it last week he said thanks everybody for the prayers and the positive energies and everything like that he feels good he's going to keep it moving feels like there's a good chance a lot of the n NFL players are in staff who have been on COVID lockdown all season. By the way, a couple head coaches got it, right? A couple head coaches in the NFL got it.

Oh, yeah. If I do recall. Yes. There was like the voice of God thing happened. A couple college coaches got it as well. I believe the Detroit Lions interim head coach, maybe. Yeah. Sean Payton.

Stefanski got it, right? Oh, yeah. Stefanski got it. Yeah. Sean Payton. Sean Payton Stefanski got it right yeah oh yeah Stefanski got it uh yeah what who Sean Payton got it but if you're a head coach and you see the way it looks whenever players get it or whenever other coaches get the way everybody talks like oh what they do wrong what they do wrong the head coaches in the NFL they knew they could not head coaches are normally locked down all season I would assume this season even more so for coaches and quarterbacks and big time positions. I bet the message was being sent loud and clear.

If y'all motherfuckers get it, we're in deep shit. Tomlin, all these other head coaches, they probably hadn't seen public or air since the beginning of the season. I would assume 80. That's a lot. That's a high number.

75, 80% of people that were in that COVID protocol this season, though, right now at this point are okay with just go ahead and give me the goddamn COVID at this point. They're not worried about a damn thing. We hope Mike Tomlin's okay, but I assume if they're going to report every person that is in the NFL that gets

COVID this offseason, that's going to be a busy time. I think it's probably going to be a lot because I've been watching a lot of videos on Instagram and these guys in their offseason that they're having, guys are living because all season they couldn't do a damn thing. Let's assume a lot of people are going to get it. We hope everybody survives.

That is obviously what we hope, but you were a COVID cowboy. You went through it. It is not a desirable thing to get, but I do believe a lot of guys are probably going to get it. Tomlin has it. Let's hope he remembers. No, it's not desirable, but Tomlin does not live in his fears. He is a strong, strong human being. He will be okay it. Tomlin has it. Let's hope he remembers. No, it's not desirable, but Tomlin does not live in his fears. He is a strong, strong human being. He will be okay. Mike Tomlin.

We don't care. He doesn't care. But he did care during the season. And all the players did care. And they realize it takes all of us. But I would love to see that 75-80% that you mentioned. I would love if they brought in the players now, and the coaches now, a few weeks after testing them all. To see well kenny moore was here yesterday right yeah

kenny moore was here yesterday he said he either got his first test or second test he probably has to get more three or whatever to get back into the building to do workouts and everything like that he just landed uh two days ago or whatever he came in the office we were socially distant but it'll be interesting to think if these players are going to live up to the same standards that they were living during the season so they can remain in the same protocol to get in the building. How will that affect the growth of players

going forward? You know, the new CBA already doesn't allow for players to practice. I mean, it's veteran based. The vets don't want to practice because they don't have the time. Okay, the young guys need it, but there's no guys. I would assume that are going to sign up to stay in the protocol all off-season and work out in the building. There's going to be a lot of at-home. That could affect some things going forward. That really could be a potential issue. Last year, it was like,

kind of happened out of nowhere. We're doing Zoom workouts now. How you doing? This off-season, though, now you're starting about people starting a trend. For instance, I always worked out at the facility. I stayed in Indianapolis. A lot of people left they have their own trainers people go to arizona people go down to florida there's a lot of place i would assume those numbers are going to go up for all those places and if guys see success doing that look for the off season next year year going forward if it's hey if it's even handled now yeah i know there's variants coming out okay but the next year going forward a lot more guys are going to be away from the facility and i think that's just going to be something that's going to out. But in the next year going forward, a lot more guys are going to be away from the facility.

And I think that's just going to be something that's going to linger along here for the next 10, 15 years. And we talked to Taylor LeJuan during the season while he was going through his rehab. No way. He's like, no, I'll do it on my own. I assume all these players and all these private workout places are getting increased, huge increased numbers of athletes coming through there. I wonder if they are testing everybody in their area. I doubt it. I would doubt it as well. No way.

That guy's got COVID, we think, but he's got to get better today. You're getting better or getting worse. It's one or the other. That's all it is. At Boston Corner, how you doing? Keep it moving. Fantastic, Pat. You know, yesterday, two legends in the music community, Daft Punk retired,

and today I figured, you know, now that I've accepted it, I put on these shades and just say, you know, thank you, Daft Punk. Thank you, Daft. That's a tough one, isn't it? Thank you shades and just say, thank you, Daft Punk. Thank you, Daft. That's a tough one, isn't it? Thank you, Daft Punk. Thank you, Daft Punk. DP would be easier, probably. Yeah, well, DP is actually pretty difficult from what I've been told.

Daft Punk had a hell of a run. Daft Punk innovated. You're in the back there, guy that controls the microphones? Of course, Jay. One of the biggest Daft Punk fans going, actually. Yeah, I assume Jay had a little moment here where his heart was shook whenever uh daft punk retired i haven't listened to him for 20 years but i was a big fan back in the day they've been that's all you said yesterday and also by the way i don't think anybody has listened to daft punk

within the last 15 years a lot of people would assume they retired decades ago but shout out to them for 28 years it's impressive yeah it's a long time making music and there was a what's that nick you're a big daft punk guy no i i think jay is because they did. 28 years. It's impressive. Yeah, it's a long time making music. What's that, Nick? You're a big Daft Punk guy? No, I think Jay is because they never talked. So I think that's why he enjoyed it so much. Did they start it? That was my favorite part. The marshmallow, they did have the helmets.

Oh, yeah. The whole thing, yeah. Darude was the starter. Darude, yeah. Sandstorm. Of course. I'll tell you what. Flip Cup game, that song came on in the house undefeated.

I don't think I've ever had two flips with that song. That song comes on, it's here we go, how you doing, keep moving. Darude though, Sandstorm, obviously electric there. What Daft Punk did though is they would take old songs and then they would mix it obviously and create. Somebody tweeted out yesterday, some super musical person was like what daft punk did with this particular beat was insane and it's a it's an old old song like maybe a 50 60 song and then they would clip like three different parts and then they would repeat and put

it back in the whole thing and the way they made their beats it was just like holy their work with kanye was obviously uh definitely memorable and everything like that they were innovators in the music world, and I couldn't fucking tell you what they look like. No, no. You might be a Daft Punk member. I wish, but I mean, you know, that is what you strive for, just to be able to put on a helmet.

You don't even know who I am, how we doing. That DJ situation, we were going to make a documentary last year, I think. Yeah, last year I think it was. I was going to create a helmet that had lights on it. What was that going to be? DJ Light Up Head? What was it? DJ Light Up?

DJ Light Up Helmet? DJ Light Head? DJ Light Head. I think it was DJ Light Head. And I was going to buy a bunch of followers. Of course. I was going to buy a bunch of followers. And I had a bunch of DJ friends here in town.

And they were just going to create me a list or whatever. Because there was a point where all these notables were doing all this DJing shit. Now listen, there are some celebrities that are great DJs, okay? I'm not knocking that, but it became the thing where people, what's that, go ahead? Shaq. Exactly, like Shaq Diesel is a good DJ and everything. Vin Diesel.

You know, the whole thing, but there for a while there was just celebrities just basically stealing money from DJs. They would have a playlist, they would act like they were doing. So we were going to make an entire documentary about it and expose how big a bullshit it was.

We were going to say that I just got off tour in Europe or whatever. We probably would have got booked at 15 to 20 bars if we wanted to. And it was just going to be somebody else's thing

I was going to hit play for or whatever. And just fucking bob the head. You know what I mean? That's all you need. That's all you got to do. Daft Punk did a lot more than that. They'll have a little fucking...

They're fresh. Did you know that? Well, I didn't know that. His name is Guy and the other guy's name you need. That's all you got to do. Daft Punk did a lot more than that, though. I have a little fucking... They're fresh. Did you know that? Well, I didn't know that. His name is Guy, and the other guy's name is Thomas. Don't call me Guy, pal. That's what you think. That's what it says. Connor, they're not Canadian.

I'm sorry, Gumpy, they're not Canadian, but you are. How are we doing in gambling? What are we betting on tonight? Anything sweet? We got a boatload of college basketball, English Premier League, and Champions League today, Pat. That's a lot of money to be made if you bet on the right things. Mitt had a completely ice-cold night, but he said you either win or you either lose or you're due or something like that.

He did solve sports gambling last week as well. Well, yeah, he just got to double down every single time. Yeah, he just keep doubling. We'll talk about some of the gambling things today because there's really not that much to talk about aside from Deshaun Watts and NBA Top Shots taking over the world. to talk about aside from Deshaun Watts. And NBA Top Shot's taking over the world. $208,000 gift was sold in this NBA Top Shot,

which is a 3D digital playing card, which is going to take over for all the card stock playing cards that are currently running up yodely, yodely the prices. NBA Top Shot is a pretty fascinating thing. Our poll is actually, is NBA Top Shot a real thing? Ain't that right so you know yep and what are the answers right now if we if we could get an early results quick yep with over 21 21 000 votes right now last place yes eight percent no ten percent and then what is nba top shot 82 percent yeah so the poll was is nba top shot a real thing or not? So we're entering this time where people are fascinated

by investing in making money off their money and everything like that. You know, like it's an interesting time, which, by the way, is good for the future. All right. Young entrepreneurial mindset. Jay, just vote. Yes. There we go. OK,, just young entrepreneurial mindsets are taking over everywhere. We saw it in the meme stocks. We see it with Bitcoin, Dogecoin, now with NBA Top Shot. It's a revolution of the old school with the modern look on it, with a lot of the power that we now have as a people due to social media being able to, you know, unite folks, basically.

people due to social media being able to, you know, unite folks, basically. Okay, so NBA Top Shot is this new way of looking at playing cards, which, by the way, I never got into, but goddamn, Lefkoe, Gary Vee. Yeah. Okay, the playing card community is one where they're making a lot of money. It's a good idea. I see it from afar. I never got into it.

It looks like it. This NBA Top Shot thing, though, seems very interesting to me. I tried to look into it a little bit. It's a digital card. It looks like a GIF, but you get to own it. For instance, Nick Moroto last night spent $82 on a GIF, a video of Jimmy Butler knocking down a big-time shot. I bought a Zion Williamson dunk for $500. Okay. No idea. No idea what I'm buying or why I'm buying it. But it feels like if enough people get behind it

as a people, it's going to only continue to go. Now, this morning, Bitcoin was taking quite a hit. Okay. It's taking quite a hit. But that's going to happen over the long... It feels like the NBA top shots, the Bitcoin, the Doge coins, the AMCs, the GameStops, all these things where people can kind of

come together and realize, like, oh, if we start putting money into something, we can all make money. It's not just going to be the same old hags just raking in all the money. Oh, no.

I love it. So I got in on the game. Okay, I got a Top Shot thing. I have no idea if it's real or not. I have no idea where it's headed. I spent $500 for a gift that I could probably just find. And we also released a Top Shot card out of the office. Me hitting a step-back jumper to win with Connor on the commentary.

I mean, that thing's going to sell for $1.50. I want to let you know, it says it's one of one. But if you screen record, you can just try it. That's right. You can just rip that thing yet again, which is the interesting thing about the Top Shot. I don't fully understand how that's going to work, but I know that I'm in on it. I can't wait for it to continue to go.

And the fact that something sold for $208,000 feels like it's potentially money laundering. Okay. Might be people hiding drug money or whatever, but I don't care if they're going to hide drug money with that Zion dunk that I got, I'm cool with it. I will take it. No big deal. Did you get a sweet dunk?

Yeah, it was a good dunk. There was actually a layup in Rebound. Yeah. Top shot cards put together. It was a bunch of gifts of Zion doing layups. Oh. And that was the first one Bailey was trying to sell me. Yeah.

And I said, find a dunk. We found a dunk. 500 or something bucks. You're up 10% now. 600 or something bucks now. Oh, yeah. That's what I'm talking about. Nobody knows how or why.

Nobody knows how or why. But that's on bitches going up. Bitcoin's currently going down. That'll come back up by the dips. OK, let's go ahead and go for it. But the top shot thing I really think is taking. No one knows what it is or what it means or anything about it, Pat. But those poll results are promising because the less people know, the more money there is to be made.

I just couldn't risk you losing out on, you lost out on Dogecoin, you lost out on Bitcoin, you lost out on the Argon nuts. I couldn't see you lose out on this trend as well. You need to cash in on Topshop. A lot of people think that, you know, I've missed out on a lot of things.

Which, those people would be right. You know what I mean? Those people would be right. The Argon oil in nuts, the Moroccan oil. The original. That should have been me. That should have been me.

I should have been making hair, skin, everything look younger, better. It's in every single product at this point. It does not matter. It could be a face wash. It could be a shampoo. It could be a goddamn exfoliating thing. There's Argon nuts in there. I had the plug. The connection could have been the handshake. Hey, I'm not actually part of the business. I'm just introducing the people. Got drunk on a boat, lost the guy's number. He probably has a bazillion dollars. Now I'd assume he has new phone who dis at this point. If I was to find that number, Bitcoin very early in the game game i was asked if i wanted to buy bitcoin i said that's fake money

get the fuck out of here i ain't doing it now it's 47 000 and falling per bitcoin but i could have got that thing whenever it was just a couple hundred bucks few of them probably said no don't want it esports there was a game a team that was offered for me to invest in like five ten years ago i said i don't play video games i'm not the right guy that thing has gone up to like 30 40 million dollars at this point Dogecoin did not get at the beginning of the dog run okay but then as soon as I saw Elon Musk I get in guess what she goes down okay so maybe it was me being a mush there for the Doge when it comes to Bitcoin though I have gotten into the game. All right? I have gotten into the game.

A little bit late. My new rule is if Elon Musk, our alien, is doing it, I'm following. So Elon Musk is from another planet. He is our alien. If he's investing in something, I'm going. So if he buys a Topshop, by the way, look out. I'm getting those Zion rebounds fucking tomorrow, Conor. Oh, and it makes no sense because that $208,000 card was like a random LeBron dunk that he has a thousand of in a game they lost. Like once they release the ones of like him winning game winners and blocking shots and all that, those might go for what? $1.5 million?

Yeah, well, the goal is that Zion's dunk, you know, in like 10 years. Oh, yeah. Now, the quality of that's probably going to be 8K 10 years from now. So, well, the fact that it's only a basic beat-ass 4K camera, make it better like the cards, it would be in mint condition for the time still. You know, I'm excited to see how this all plays out. I have invested in something I know nothing about numerous times. This is just another one of those situations.

But let's hope Zion goes and continues to yodel on the top shot thing, which I would assume he would. I would assume Zion is going to go on and be the guy on there, right? Yeah, you got in, like, stage one. So, like, that card you have is going to be, like, it's like that baseball card that sold for, like, $5 million, not many of. That's what you're going to have. Well, aren't all those motherfuckers just hiding money?

Isn't that what? We talking laundering? It's like art. Yeah, like art yeah like art i believe art is just those super high up people owe other people money and they're like how can we give you this money for the side bet we made oh i get it sneeze onto a fucking piece of paper and then i'll give you 1.25 million for that thing you know like i don't understand how like those sports cards. I respect the sports cards collectors or whatever. It makes no sense to me that little card stock is worth millions of dollars or whatever. I respect it.

I appreciate it. And everything is worth exactly what somebody's willing to pay for it. Let's just hope the Top Shot does do the same trajectory as all the other bullshit. Plus, you don't have to deal with art thieves or people like O.J simpson busting in your hotel room trying to get their sports memorabilia back oh the hackers will have my fucking cops like this you don't have to worry about accused murderers breaking in and stealing your shit you got to worry about 12 year olds that are smarter than you'll ever be going zions rebounds and dunks are now mine then they get an email like you can get it back for 2X of what you paid for. I'm like, thank you, hacker.

Okay, you know what? Make it two and a half. Here you go. Can I please get my digital cards back? That's what I'm going to have to deal with forever, and that's why you got to get a good firewall out there. You got a top shot wallet? What's that? You got a top shot wallet?

No, that's only for Bitcoins. Don't be a stooge, dude. Come on, Tony. When the NFL top play shot cards, whatever the hell they're going to be called, come out. You got to make sure you get yours because those are your plays. Those should be your cards. Yeah, that onside kick to myself, I'd like that for free. You're welcome.

Holiday hit? Please. I'd like that for free. Bring it in. The NBA is making money off of this, though. Oh, yeah. Which is a good idea because as the ratings are going down, they're going to have to figure out ways to profit off of their clips

because that is literally how the NBA is consumed is via clips. A lot of people can come out and say the NBA's ratings are terrible, the NBA's doing terrible or whatever. I watch more NBA now than I ever have in my entire life, and it's strictly on social media. It's via the clips. They have to figure out how to make money off those clips. This seems to be the way to be doing it.

They got people paying $208,000 for their star player doing a dunk lebron seen any of that money yes yeah they're getting well i would assume it goes into the revenue split right which would then go into the players so he's getting like 2.5 or something like that of nba top shot yeah what's his free throw going terrible deal is mark cuban needs to get out fucking shark tanking into the nba negotiation deal they're working terrible deals. Mark Cuban needs to get out fucking Shark Tank and into the NBA negotiation deal. They're only getting 2.5% on their clips with their players in their thing for shit that's going for 80 bucks for Jimmy Butler jumper is happening. They're getting 2.5% of that. Maybe the NBA is in deep shit.

I got it with $1. Really? Oh, yeah. What'd you get? January 2nd, I got a Colby White. It's worth $50 now. Wow. How about that? Are you fucking. What'd you get? January 2nd, I got a Colby White. It's worth $50 now. Wow. How about that?

Are you fucking Warren Buffett, dude? I think so. That's 50x? Yeah. 50x in a couple months, this dude. And NBA players are getting in. In front of the show, Spencer Dinwiddie, he posted on Twitter saying like, Hey, you guys want to send me some top shots?

Go ahead. I'm accepting right now. Yeah, hold on. There's a football player that just opened a card store in Los Angeles. Marsh. Cassius Marsh. He inked his whole body. He don't give a mother.

Uh-uh. Joining us here in about a minute or so will be Chris Godwin. Shout out to him. Winner of the Super Bowl. Pro Bowl, All-Pro. Going to be a free agent, too, potentially. I don't know if I heard Bruce Arians during the Super Bowl boat parade talk about how your ass ain't going anywhere. I do

know that open negotiations had begun for Bruce and for Light down there trying to keep the boys together. If you're Godwin, though, you got to think you can go make some money. There are some free agents out there, though, in the wide receiver market that is going to be very interesting to see where they end up. Do you pick a great

quarterback or do you say, hey, I got to go get paid? Julian Edelman now, Dan Mazziano of ESPN is reporting that he's potentially going to be a cap casualty for a $6 million roster bonus he's owed next year, potentially getting cut. And Dan Mazziano said, you'll see him go back

down there to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers like it's nothing. I don't know how many spots that they have down there where people can just go, you know, I'm going to go here, I'm going to go here, because there are – it's not Julian Edelman will be able to do whatever he wants, especially because Tom Brady or whatever. But all these wide receivers that are out there. T.Y. Hilton is going to be out there on the market.

He's a great player. Chris Godwin, the guy who's about to join, he's an incredible player. He's going to be on the market. I mean, he probably hasn't even gotten into the business thought of the whole thing because he's still celebrating. But we might as well just go right to the horse's mouth. Ladies and gentlemen, join us now, Super Bowl champ, all-pro, wide receiver, Chris Godwin.

Chris, how you doing, dude? I am doing great, man. Appreciate you having me. Hey, you're about to get paid, dude. Paid, paid, paid. Yeah. Hey, that's the damn goal, you know what I mean, is to get paid and, you know, be able to take care of my family, you know?

Well, the purpose of going to college is to find out what your profession is okay so anytime somebody leaves early I always get so intrigued by people who are like he shouldn't leave early it was like well the purpose of college was to find a job you just got a job now and then when you get your job the purpose of your job now is to get paid you're in an interesting moment now you're about to be a free agent but you're coming from a team Tampa Baneers, that just may be about to really start to take off. How much of that conversation has to weigh into the fact that obviously your job is to take care of your family. That's why you are in the NFL. It is a business. It is your profession, but also how much of it is like, hey, Tampa's got something very special going. There has to be some sort of,

have you even started thinking about strategy or what you're going to think of going forward yet? Just stare at each other. What if he doesn't answer? Is there a delay? There should be a delay. Chris, can you hear me? Oh, this is awesome. I'm not going to talk about it.

Is that what's going on right now? Delayed? This is amazing. It's still going through? Can you hear me? Yep. Can you hear me? Duh!

Chris, can you hear me? Yeah, in and out. Oh, my God! I thought you just had one of the best moments in history. I asked you about your free agent strategy and you were just sitting there completely quiet. I was like, did he decide not to answer? That was amazing. I was so happy

if that was the case. Turns out you can hear me. So let me run this back. Tampa Bay, the team, obviously Bruce Arians is publicly negotiating right now with some people. Your ass ain't going nowhere. Your ass ain't going nowhere. You got Tom Brady as a quarterback. Your job is to make as much money as possible that's why you're in the nfl how interesting is that situation now that the bucks are about to heat up it seems like

just won a super bowl you're about to hit free agency how much of that conversation has happened between you your representation the bucks and everything like that maybe even you with yourself yeah man uh that's very, very interesting, right? Because like you said, like, the team is heading in the right direction. And, like, this is something that I saw kind of happen over the last couple of years. You know, like me and Mike would have conversations, like even like going back to last year, about how we felt like we were, like, right there.

We had, like, the right, you know, core group of guys to really make a run. We just needed, you know, a couple more pieces. And then, you know, you get Tom Tom and then it takes off in year one. You know, I know a lot of people didn't really expect it to end how it did, but that was a goal for us. And so for me, like going, like looking at free agency, I'm like, that's definitely something that I'm really considering is like, like one, like I want to be here, you know, like I love the guys on the team.

I think we got something special, you know, but at the same time, you got to consider, you know, all the possibilities out there and consider doing what's best for you and, you know, and your family. Long time you've worked for this moment, you know, like this is a lot of years in the making free agency. This is a massive ordeal for you and your family. So congrats, by the way. Yeah. No problem. Not a lot of people get to this point where there's potentially a massive bank just sitting on the other side of a signature on a piece of paper.

You know what I mean? Like that is a very, very cool thing. Let's talk about that core that you talked about over the last couple years growing and then Tom coming in there. When Tom showed up, what did you learn specifically from watching him? Or what did he do to the building you think that really rallied the troops to take it to the next level? Or what did he do to the building you think that really rallied the troops to take it to the next level? I think the biggest thing that he brought was just the mentality of expecting to win over kind of hoping to win.

We've had a bunch of talented guys for years, but could never really put it together. And so just the history of the team kind of creeps into your mind. You go into games like, as a competitor, you're like, yeah, we can win this. But you're really just kind of creeps into your mind. You go into games like, you know, as a competitor, you're like, yeah, we can win this. But, like, you know, you're really just kind of hoping to win. But this year, you know, we approached every single game like, we damn sure can win this game. You know, like there's no reason why we couldn't.

You know, especially as the season progressed, even when we hit, like, our, you know, our little slump in November, we didn't really, like, we didn't really waver. You know, we knew that we were taking our grunt pains as the season was going because we didn't have any OTAs or anything like that to really learn each other. You know what I mean? And then we had, like, once the playoffs hit,

there was no doubt in our mind that we were going to win. You know, it was just a matter of showing everybody else. You and Mike Evans were a massive part of the conversation for why Tom Brady chose Tampa, potentially. Now, there's a bunch of bullshit out there that some teams weren't interested in Tom and blah, blah, blah. But I think we all know,

anybody that's ever played in the NFL is like, if a team could have got Tom Brady, there's a couple teams, obviously, that have their quarterback or whatever. But Tom Brady coming in their building makes everybody better. But whenever he signed there, we kind of sat back and we're like,

okay, so he's got the best group of weapons he's ever had. Mike, Chris, I mean, that was before we even knew about Scoot Scoot, Scotty Miller. sat back and we're like okay so he's got the best group of weapons he's ever had mike chris i mean that was before we even knew about scoot scoot scotty miller i mean that was ronald jones the entire squad it was a big part of why everybody thought tom potentially wanted to go to tampa with you and mike being just weapons now if you were to think about going on the market anywhere do you think about who else is potentially on the offensive side with you? Because obviously you and Mike benefited from each other, right,

for a while now. Add in there Gronk, AB comes in there. It definitely helps. Not saying you would need it, but it's definitely one of those things where you have to think about it. I would assume quarterback and other offensive weapons is something you're going to have to consider whenever you're thinking about where you're going, not just money-wise.

Yeah, yeah, that's 100% correct. The goal, obviously, is to get paid, right? But at the same time, I'm not stupid. I'm not going to put myself in a situation where I'm going to be miserable for some years to come just for a couple extra dollars. I think my happiness is paramount in all of this. And part of that happiness is winning. happiness is paramount in all of this, you know,

and part of that happiness is winning, you know, and like you said, just having extra, you know, a bunch of different guys on the offensive side that can make your job a little bit easier, but also give you the best chance to win. It's something that I'm, that I'm strongly considering, you know, it's a big reason why, you know, I want to be here. You know, I know I can trust my dogs when, when, when it's time to go to battle. Bruce Arians and you have a great relationship or no, have got to know each other well he is electric yeah man hey BA he's he's a great guy man like beyond the football stuff you know I got a lot of respect for BA the way he

conducts his business you know the way he carries himself like he's not going to sugarcoat anything to you you know what I mean like if if you if you're playing bad he's gonna let you know straight up like yo you're playing like shit you know but but if you, if you're playing bad, he's going to let you know straight up, like, yo, you're playing like shit, you know? But if you're not and you're playing good, you know, he's right there behind you. And he's not going to throw you under the bus. You know, I got a lot of respect for PA. Whenever you think about this free agency market,

have you thought about teams or places that could be interested? Have you and your people had full-on meetings? Are we celebrating and enjoying the Super Bowl still? Really, really just stopping, celebrating from the super bowl like that uh it took me a little while to recover from the yeah free do you ever get your phone do you ever get a new phone did verizon show up with a phone they should have they should have had a boat fucking come right out to you listen the the next day like less than 24 hours verizon came through for your boy got me with a new phone man they looked out i should tell i appreciate that you that video is hilarious hey is this live yeah i know you're gonna see this verizon i got my that was an

amazing you were not happy you're the only person on the boat that seemed to not be having the time of their life because there was a real moment that was like, look at all these cameras out. I can't do it because 4-2 Scotty Miller threw my shit in the goddamn river. I mean, it's unbelievable. I'm telling you. I'm telling you. That's exactly what it was. I'm sitting here with my phone, and mind you, I'm not even the type to really be on my phone

and stuff like that, especially in that moment. But I was about to go live. I'm like, man, let me try something a little bit different. Yeah. See that's the last time I'm doing that shit. I ain't going live no more. Now my phone's at the bottom of the Tampa river. You know what I mean? But it worked out in the end, but it had me sick for a moment. What happened? What happened? You try to hold it. He batted it out of your hands. What happened?

So I put it in my pocket. Right. And I'm just holding it. About to go live or whatever. And like, him stumble i'm like yo i can't let my boy go take a dive in the teffa river you know what i mean like i can get a new phone okay i don't know if we can get a new scotty i try to stop him and it's like the back of his like shoulder or something just hit my phone right on my head and it was a it was a wrap from there scotty doesn't even remember that happening i bet he has no idea that that happened um your offensive weapons i just listed through them but when gronk ab leonard fernette get added into that you know kind of attitude and then i think whenever gronk was signing one of the tight ends said they wanted to be traded or whatever.

I forget who it was, but. O.J. Howard. O.J. Howard said, I want to be traded or whatever. And that obviously ended up working out. He did not get traded and everything bought in there. But was there ever a moment of like, how are we all going to gel? Like whenever you guys, there was helicopters flying over and Tom was throwing balls and then A.B. gets added

and then everybody still, Leonard Frenette gets added into that thing. Was there a thought of like, is there enough balls to go around? How will we gel? How is it, was there ever a doubt or did you just assume that it will all get figured out? I mean, I think at different times, there's like, you know, jokes thrown around about how the ball is going to be spread around. But like, I think the only serious question

was really just how we were going to gel. Because like, you know, football is so unique, uh you know in terms of like being a team game and like it's not just like you you know you throw the best players together and it's going to work it's not it don't work like that so like the fact that we didn't have otas and stuff but we're kind of like throwing together this makeshift like workouts and stuff and trying to get the to know each other it's like man like we got to make this shake like with the live bullets. You know what I mean? And like I said, like that's how – that's what happened in like in November.

You know, you start seeing us kind of, you know, losing to some of the tougher teams just because they had been together for a little while, a couple years, and they put it together and we were still figuring it out. But like I said, as the season progressed, we did – there was no doubt in our mind that we were going to figure it out because we knew that through all those tough moments We were battle-tested and like whereas previous teams I would have folded You know, we can't we fought back and we and we came together and then you know playoffs hit and now we hit the ground running

Second half of Atlanta I think is when everybody kind of looks back and they're like, okay This is when the team really offensively started coming together Was there anything that happened then? Was it like a backs-against-the-wall moment? Was there a halftime speech? Or did it just so happen to click in that second half? There wasn't really like a halftime speech or anything. But for damn sure it was a back-against-the-wall moment, you know?

Like we're 7-5 playing Atlanta, you know, fresh off a bye. And we're down 17 at halftime. And it's like, man, we're fighting for our playoff lives now. So, like, every game from that point on was a playoff game and we treated it like such. You'd be surprised at what happens when your back's against the wall. I'm happy you guys won a Super Bowl, man.

You and me both. I was thinking to myself right there, imagine you guys don't even make the playoffs down there. There was a time in the middle of the year where it was like Tampa a lot of Tampa is all hype Bill Belichick obviously won in this entire thing Tom can't even get his due because the as soon as Tom goes down there I think the odds change you guys went to Super Bowl like 500 maybe 600 points it changed or whatever and then through the year the thought of the no OTAs or preseason games or even being able

to sit at the same table uh at the facility those types of things really started coming in light it was like this team doesn't really had a chance to be around each other that's why towards the end of the season Clyde Christensen was like if we had eight more weeks I think we'd only get better and better and better which is why it's all so interesting what happens going forward Connor what do you got yeah Chris up until last, you wore 12 for your entire playing career. Was there ever a thought to, like, make Brady give you, like, some stock in TB12? Or did you just realize, like, hey, this is the guy throwing me the ball,

I'll give him his number? No, it was just out of respect, man. I should have got some damn stock in TB12, though. Especially with him winning seven. That stock's got to be going up. Oh, yeah. But, no, it was really just out of respect for the game, man. You know, Tom's been, you know, obviously so dominant his whole career.

And, like, you know, I think the way I looked at it was, like, hoping that something like that would come full circle. That, like, late in my career, if I won a number 12 and it was going to a new team and it's a young guy would show me that same respect, you know. Are you going to wear 12 team and a young guy showed me that same respect. You're going to wear 12 if you go to another team, huh? That would

shit. That's what I'll be going for. We'll cross that bridge if it ever gets here. Wait until you hear us be like Tom Brady forced Chris Godwin out of the number 12. He wins the Super Bowl.

That'd be awesome. Diggs, what do you got? Chris, Pat always tells a story about him getting franchised and he saw the money. He was like, that's awesome. But I know a lot of players are potentially against getting franchised. There's rumors that Bucs may do that for you if something doesn't get worked out long term. What would your thoughts be if you get franchised yeah I mean I think I'm in the same boat as like a lot

of players you know like you want to get you know some long-term security you know you you want the team to commit to you as well um and so like I I think an extension would be ideal but at the end of the day you know if the franchise is what happens then like that's what i gotta do you know what i mean and then and then we'll revisit later but um bro you know i want to i want to be in tampa but at the end of the day i want to get paid too you're gonna make so much money if you hit the market i mean yeah it is it is insane to think about like i see you're in a very nice place there obviously but has that been something that is fully registered with you yet we let off with like congrats basically you're about to get paid but it is a real life changer for instance i i got money that was nowhere near what you're gonna

get but as soon as i saw it i was like holy shit like okay i'm a different person now than i was just a day ago like i can go do whatever i want to do. Has it settled in, like, with friends, family, and everything like that? It's like, okay, we did what we had to do, all right? It was basically all one big job interview for this entire college, high school, college, even in the NFL. Now we're about to hit that point. Have you had that moment yet? I hope you get a chance to have that with your family and friends

and be like, hey, we fucking did it. Like, hey, it's hey it's about to happen you know what i mean like that's a big deal not a lot of people get that type of money to do something they work at you're about to do it and you earned it like that's something you should think about going in there and have that cool conversation oh yeah uh so i i haven't actually like had that moment yet um like i hadn't really like sunk in quite yet like i'm aware of what what's going on, but I don't think that moment would truly come until we actually like signed something. You know, like you said, it's been one long interview for,

I don't know what, 10, 15 plus years, you know, like your entire life. And I'm very much a guy that I don't like to count money that I don't have in my pocket. You know what I mean? And so you just, you never know what happens. Smart. That's very smart.

Well, you should invest in, you should invest in Top Shot, NBA Top Shots. Yeah, I've been hearing a lot about that, but I'm not quite sure what it is. Oh, man, we can turn that contract you're about to get into something real special. I would love that. By the way, your contract is going to be special regardless. You don't need Top Shot or Bitcoin to talk to you about that. But it is such a neat, because for instance, whenever I went into it, I got offered a contract while I was hopping on a plane to go to Niagara Falls, Canada with my friend's little brother

who just turned 19. So we're taking him to Canada to drink or whatever I get a call with a contract offer for you know over five years multiple million dollars but it was a terrible offer right it was a terrible offer like what my agent that was at the time doing a conversation was like they offered you this they want the answer in 30 minutes I was getting on a plane that did not have internet okay so I'm hopping on this plane to go to Canada to celebrate Nick's little brother's 19th birthday and I'm getting offered like this eight million dollar. Okay, so I'm hopping on this plane to go to Canada to celebrate Nick's little brother's 19th birthday. And I'm getting offered like this $8 million offer or whatever.

And I'm like, oh my God, that is so much money. They're like, we need an answer right now though. And I'm like, I should be making more, right? They're like, yeah. I'm like, whoa, that is $8 million. And you got like a flight attendant coming by like, phone down, please. I'm like, lady, lady. Hold on.

I got like, I got it. So I was like, tell them no or whatever. And then by the time i landed and got into canada i was franchise tagged the next morning i was like all right i'm a fucking millionaire still let me sign this thing i guess it is yeah i guess i'll sign it i guess i'll sign this thing but it's going to be a very interesting process because if and i don't know anybody unless you come from i guess that world and your family is just ridiculously wealthy. Whenever those numbers start getting put in front of you where you're like, I can actually do this.

It is a really cool feeling. But also it's like, holy shit, too. There's a lot of that going on. Yeah. And I can imagine that, too. You know, but I think the great thing is that, like, you know, I got some great agents and I'm allowed to allow them to go to work and go to bat for me. You know what I mean? And trust the fact that, you know, that we know where my value is and that we're going to continue to push towards that because, you know, don't want to sell yourself short.

You know what I mean? As hard as it may be to turn down some of the most of the money I've ever seen in my lifetime, like, beyond, like, what I've ever thought about seeing. You know, but you got to trust the people that you hire to do their job. Anything you think about you're going to be your first purchase? Anything cool? You going to buy anything sweet? Man, you know, I haven't thought about anything like that crazy. Like I said, I don't like to count money that's not in my pocket yet.

You know, that's where you get some trouble. You know what I mean? And then things start getting delayed. You're like, man, but my pocket is kind of itching. I bought a Cadillac Escalade the day after I was drafted in the seventh round

because I thought the signing bonus just comes right into your bank account. Turns out that thing was delayed by three months. I almost got that in the repo. I had no money. I had to go into the bank with a news clip basically and say hey this is what they're gonna pay me or whatever if you could defer the payment until then i ended up paying like 27 percent interest or something it was unbelievable like a two hundred thousand dollar escalator turns out you actually have to

sign the contract to get the signing uh chris you're awesome man you had a hell of a run enjoy the off season are you you down in Florida still? I'd assume that's where you are. Is that home forever, even if you end up going somewhere else? Yeah, it's home right now. You know what I mean? And I spend most of my offseason here just because, like, who wants to go somewhere cold in the offseason?

Yeah, I was just in Florida. I mean, enjoy it. Stay there. I was just down in Florida. I flew back into Indiana. It was, like, negative 20. Where are you from originally,. I flew back into Indiana. It was like negative 20. Where are you from originally, Chris? I'm from Delaware.

Where'd you go to school? Penn State. Oh, geez. Yeah. I've been in the cold, you know, and I'm not, I won't be too thrilled to go back up there in February and March. They stink, though, huh? For the reason of coming down to Florida.

Hey, Penn State stinks. Why does Penn State stink? Is Penn State ever going stink, though, huh? They stink for the reason of coming out of Florida. Hey, Penn State stinks. Why does Penn State stink? Is Penn State ever going to come back, Chris? They stink right now. The biggest moment is James Franklin almost fighting a fan a couple years ago. I mean, are they ever going to come back? Penn State is an institution. I mean, some bad things happen, but it's a big time thing.

They have nothing in relevance anymore. What's going on, Chris? Yeah, no, I think they'll bounce back. They had a rough year. I don't know what was going on, man. But it was tough to watch at times. You know what I mean? It's tough to watch your boys start off 0-5.

But they flipped their run in the second half. I think they won like four straight or something like that. But that's unacceptable at Penn State. And I got faith that they're going to bring it back. How hard was this season with the COVID stuff? Was it much more difficult from, like, outside looking in? Obviously, it seems weird. Can't eat lunch.

Zoom calls. Go home. Don't do this. Don't even change. You've got plexiglass next to each other. But was it something you guys got used to? Or was all year just, like, this sucks the entire time, basically? I think we got used to it to a certain degree.

But then, like, once you get to the playoffs, they cranked it up even more. So, so like we're getting tested twice a day like you can't see no you can't see any of your family like at all like nobody visiting like it was just weird the entire year and then you add on to the fact that like half the stadiums didn't have any fans like i don't know if there's been anything in football that i've experienced that was more weird than playing in new orleans week one and it's just like silent dome and it basically just feels like a high school like scrimmage like i can hear all the things that the other teams coaches are saying i'm like yo like this is this is the strangest thing i've ever seen in my life i just uh we talked to vita vea yesterday who

might be one of the coolest you along by the way it seems like your old locker room is maybe just an incredible place you have something connor Connor? Yeah, Chris, speaking of Vita Veya, did you ever call Sue big girl? Or was that kind of a D-line? Did you hear about this? So I've heard, I might have heard it once or twice. Like, just like in passing. But, you know, like me being a receiver, I'm going to stay out of those big guys. I'm going to stay out of their lane.

I was messing with Vita one time, man. Like, I walked up behind him and, like, put him in, like, a bear hug. And, like, literally, like, in seconds, like, my hands were, like, ripping apart. And I'm like, yo, this is the strongest human I've ever hit around in my lifetime. So from that moment on, I was like, I got to leave him alone. Well, he trapped me in the call in Indomitian Sioux big girl yesterday. That is going to be something I think in Duncan Sue is not going to just let that slide by Chris.

Can't thank you enough for joining us, man. You're awesome. Yeah. I appreciate y'all for having me, man. I love the show. Well, I mean, you're about to be like filthy rich. So our show is going to be a bit below you for a while, but you, you deserve it, pal.

Enjoy the Superbowl. Enjoy this whole free agency process. It can get a bit hectic from what I've been told from other people. I've never been in your world, obviously. But enjoy this. You deserve it. Congrats on everything, Chris. Yeah.

Appreciate y'all, fellas. Y'all be safe, man. Hey, happy you can talk, too. The beginning of this thing, you know, you're just fucking sitting there like a mute. Just sitting there. Yo, it's crazy. Look, I think the first purchase, I got to get me some new internet or something. Hey, Verizon, I know you're listening.

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Dion, what's going on? What's up, Pat? Oh! Dion, thanks for the hello. Very nice. Now, you did say fuck you to the boys, basically.

Yeah, what's going on? Which is kind of unbelievable. No, no, you cut me off. You cut me off. I said that and the boys. Okay, sorry. I apologize, Dion. We appreciate it.

Down there in Dayton, by the way, the last two weeks, two Super Bowls down there in Dayton. Two people I did not know existed won the two Dayton races.

I'm assuming that's not what you want to talk about because now there's nothing really to talk about in that particular field. What do you want to talk about, Dion? I want to talk about my goddamn Jets for a moment. I was over the Deshaun Watson stuff, but now my Jets are back into it. How do you feel about them actually having a chance of doing it? The Jets have been in the same position with Deshaun Watson since the beginning, which is, I think Deshaun, thanks for the call, Dion.

Thanks for the hello, by the way. That was very nice of you. Deshaun Watson, ESPN Upstate, which is an ESPN local affiliate in Carolina somewhere, right? And I forgot about the ties to Carolina that Deshaun has, obviously. You know what I mean? I was always wondering, like, why are the Carolina Panthers even involved? All college, home, everything is basically there.

They're like, hey, let's bring the Michael Jordan of football back home here. Okay, it makes a lot more sense now that I started thinking that. But the initial thing was the Jets. Remember, he was in New York for a couple of them. He was wearing a green hat. Remember, he chose to wear green in public. He obviously wanted to go to the Jets. But now with the Jets, Dolphins, and panthers allegedly being approved by deshaun watson

that means deshaun watson's people are telling people that this is where he would want to go trying to control the narrative even more so the panthers getting into that list is a good news uh for the carolina panthers organization who has allegedly been very interested in potentially getting deshaun watson or another quarterback in there because David Tepper, the new owner of the Carolina Panthers, seems to be an owner who's not scared to go all in. Dabbled in ownership with the Pittsburgh Steelers, gets the Carolina Panthers, immediately says,

okay, let's go ahead and stir some shit here. Ron Rivera out like week four, week five. Go ahead and have a good one. It's not going to be our thing. Goes to Baylor, pays Matt Rule a bunch of money, brings in Joe Brady, gets Teddy Bridgewater, breaks off Christian McCaffrey. Carolina Panthers are getting active in this whole game.

They see Teddy Bridgewater for one year. Seems like they're not 100% sold on Teddy Bridgewater. They've been in conversations elsewhere. But it does feel like the Carolina Panthers have been the most recent team to get into the Deshaun Watson conversation. But the Jets have been around since day one. Same situation remains.

If the Texans don't want to trade him, he's not going anywhere. Deshaun wants to go somewhere. He's going to control that narrative. The Jets, Miami, and Panthers are the three teams he's thinking about going to. I would assume there's others on the list if it ever became potentially available. But it's good news for the Panthers. Jets, you guys are still in the same spot.

You should not feel that bad at all, by the way, about maybe Bob Sala making Sam Darnold a franchise player out of nowhere. Dan Orlovsky's big thing now on Twitter has been how good Sam Darnold is. Yep. And whenever he starts listing off the stats of what's – three head coaches, two head coaches, three coordinators or something within his first three years.

And Orlovsky even put in the parentheses, like, one horrible head coach. I mean – Wow. And he was talking about Adam in the parentheses, like, one horrible head coach. I mean, and he was talking about Adam Gase. I assume he was talking about Adam Gase. I assume he was talking about Adam Gase. But Sam Darnold, if you're a Jets fan, are you completely out on? It sounds like because Deion down in Dayton heard Deshaun Watson was potentially coming back again, like he has been since the beginning.

And he's like, well, that's much better than Sam Darnold. Orlovsky's out there like, no, no, no. Darnold still has a chance to be a guy. He's only 22 or 23 years old but he might have to start somewhere else it's very interesting a lot of these situations the jets may out may be out on darnold but it seems like a lot of other fan bases are still have hope in darnold and would definitely take darnold seems like miami's potentially one of them no steelers sam darnold to pittsburgh yeah but what about him home. Yeah, but what about Dewey? Bring him home. What about Dewey Haskins? Bring him home? What?

Darnold from Pittsburgh? Well, Pittsburgh, this country was built on steel. It's everyone's home. That's true. That's why there's a Steelers bar in every single city in America. But there's nothing wrong with a healthy quarterback competition to see who's the future quarterback, Dewey or Sam Darnold. So now, like, I would assume the Dan Orlovskis of the world

would be very frustrated with what you just said, saying Sam Darnold and Dewey Orlovski, or Dewey Orlovski. Dewey Haskins are in competition. This is what Orlovski said. So many folks are surprised that a young QB, Darnold, in his first three years with two head coaches, one very bad. So he didn't say horrible. He said one very bad.

Three offense coordinators, two GMs. He had mono as an adult. We got to remember that. He had shoulder injury, bottom five offensive line, bottom five run game, bottom five skill players, bottom ten defense. Are you surprised that he struggled? Every quarterback would struggle in that. It's nonsense.

He can't play. Okay? So Dan Orlovsky has now cemented himself into the Sam Darnold camp. What will happen with Sam Darnold? And when you do look at that, you realize, like, that would be a tough place to fare as a quarterback, I do believe. I don't know if the Pittsburgh Steelers are necessarily in the market, but Denver's looking for a quarterback.

Sam Darnold, Drew Locke potentially better. New England's looking for a quarterback. Now, I'm not harming – he's seen ghosts, I think, right, playing against New England or wherever, wasn't he? And that we found out from Herbert was that's actually pass rushers. That's not in the secondary. I thought it was secondary. You see one coverage.

Then all of a sudden it's actually a different coverage. Instead, it's like when you get antsy in the pocket, when you think you're getting beat up. That's because he's had a bottom five offensive line his entire time. I think Sam Darnold could be an intriguing piece of a lot of teams going forward. And we always talk about getting out of that Gase umbrella and guys skyrocket, become a whole new player. It could easily happen with Darnold.

What's he, 23, and he's already got three years of experience under his belt? Why not? Tannehill looked like he had no hope. That guy should have stayed at wide receiver, people were saying about Tannehill looked like he had no hope. That guy should have stayed at wide receiver, people were saying about Tannehill. Then he leaves. Marcus Mariota gets benched. Nobody really talks about it. Nope.

Like that was a – is he a Heisman winner? He skipped over. Just because of the success that Tannehill had, by the way. Titans fans maybe earlier were like, Marcus is our guy. And then like two weeks later, they're like, let's fucking get rid of Marcus. Let's move on. And then Marcus Mariota now obviously comes in. We thought devastating

groin injury. Derek Carr has a great game. He's potentially getting traded right now. But the Adam Gase gone, and three offensive coordinators in however many years he's been in the league, three years or whatever, it would be tough to see that anybody succeed there. But if you're a guy at quarterback, do you have numerous head coaches?

Do you have three offensive coordinators? Do you have all that shit? It's the chicken or the egg type thing here. You know what I mean? Like Andrew Luck, for instance. When Andrew Luck came in, it didn't really matter, okay, who was going to be wherever. He was going to have success because he was a guy.

okay who was going to be wherever he was going to have success because he was a guy now sam darnold has he had the prime opportunity to succeed in the nfl absolutely not i think jets fans are the first to tell you like yeah this organization fucking stinks people are talking about trevor lawrence staying in school if the jets didn't fuck up the tank chopper where that's how bad the jets are but if you get a generational guy does does it matter? Does anything matter like that? That's the bigger conversation about Sam Darnold. Joe Burrow with the Bengals. He had nothing. Nothing.

How good was he before he got hurt? Nothing. He's a guy. He's a guy. That's going to get wasted in Cincinnati because they stink. Bengals fans, Houdet Nation are an awesome group of people. Oh, yeah. Amazing people.

That organization stinks. Absolutely stinks. No arguments here. who day nation are an awesome group of people oh yeah amazing people that organization sticks absolutely now listen as a steelers fan you feel that way i'm talking about for the players that are there though too like you're giving them no chance basically the coaches over there you're giving them no chance little to no resource it's a job okay you get to work in the nfl way to go yeah but guys that go and coach other places and then come there and they're like we ain't even got a fucking shower in this place I mean that is you know what I mean there just should be a little bit higher of an expectation amongst the shield for how Cincinnati operates over there but Joe Burrow does seem to be a guy at what point will he potentially say I need out of here and how will Sam Darnold potentially exit where will he go

what's that Zito sent a graphic in to the group yesterday, and it was because the Bears had the most Hall of Famers on their team at 30. But the Bengals have been around since the 60s. They only have one Hall of Famer. Like 30 for the Bears, one for the Bengals. How long have they been around? I think the 60s. So they have the same facilities still.

Yeah. That Hall of Famer showered in that shower. Still got the same weights. He walked these hallways. You know, that's what they say to the young players. Joe Burrow, our Hall of Famer, he took a shit in that toilet. Right there. That you will be taking a shit in with that single-ply toilet paper right next to you.

He practiced in the mud. We got your turf. Think about that. You want to be a Hall of Famer around here, that's what you got to do. What do you think about McCaffrey's name being tossed around in the trade rumors for Watson? We talked about that yesterday. It's like he is a, would you give up a top, I said 10 player in the NFL. I forget who we were talking about.

They said top five. We were talking to somebody about it. They said, AJ said top five player. Maybe. I mean, you watch that Amazon thing. He had like a 4% chance of scoring on one play. Yeah. He went through the air to do it.

I mean, he's next. Why would you do that if you are trying to go all in? You would want to keep a top ten player on your team if you're trying to add another one to that whole thing. And it's just – that seemed like an interesting thing. Maybe it was just people on the internet cooking up ways for them to potentially entice the texans to make a move but if you're trying to make a move for deshaun watson you don't think teddy bridgewater is good enough why would you unload your fucking best player if you're trying to

become that team that didn't make much sense to me but i could be wrong there's a lot of dumb things that happen their backup mike davis had some pretty good success when mcafree wasn't there and you can hold on to bob Anderson and DJ Moore on the outside. It might make sense to move McCaffrey especially if you only have to give up one first round pick. Bingo. But I could also give up that guy. Yeah. Who had a great year.

Mikey Davis. Yeah, he might have the hottest trade value right now. Now, is Christian McCaffrey going to come back and be a singer? He's a little bit of a model now too, isn't he? Oh, yeah. Hey, Christian McCaffrey's out there modeling. GQ. We did a full breakdown of McCaffrey going to come back and be a singer? He's a little bit of a model now, too, isn't he? Oh, yeah. Hey, Christian McCaffrey's out there modeling. GQ. We did a full breakdown of McCaffrey's family, like a year and a half ago. You haven't?

We did a full breakdown. His grandpa on his mom's side is like, his mom is an Olympian. His grandpa or grandma on his mom's side is an Olympian. His dad, obviously, NFL legend. His old brother. I mean, there's like, he was created to be a professional athlete, basically. And he is unbelievable. But that is so much for the, what have you done for me lately, Leak?

You know, he was hurt last year, so I was like, fucking trade him. Get him a year worth of money. It's like, whoa, whoa, whoa. Can we relax for one second? That guy was a player. He's actually the reason Cam Newton didn't have a job for 86 days. Because when Christian McCaffrey, when Cam Newton was hurt, Christian McCaffrey became 90% of that offense.

And he was just going off. And he became his team all of a sudden. Whoopi Deshaun Watson. It's a quarterback-driven league. Let's go to Tommy down in Charlotte. What's going on, Tommy? The Charlotte spelling. Pat, what's going on, man?

How are you today? Thank you, Tommy. That was very nice of you. You did say fuck you to the boys there, though, and that is kind of rude. But, Tommy, what's going on, man? How are you today? Thank you, Tommy. That was very nice of you. Did say fuck you to the boys there, though, and that is kind of rude. But, Tommy, what do you want to talk about in C-H-A-R-O-L-L-E-T-T-E Charlotte, North Carolina, I'd assume. What do you want to talk about, Tommy?

Yeah, I'm over here in Uptown. Oh, you... Hey, I said that yesterday, right? The Jewel City or whatever, Queen City, and you guys don't say... What's that? Because our Uptown is Downtown. Yeah, your Downtown is actually titled Uptown because you want to be a little bit fancier than everybody else.

Correct, correct. And Buddy Don, Dayton, I gotta say, I think Deshaun's probably coming here. Half the city would love it. All the Clemson fans here, South Carolina fans probably would hate it, but my call is more about the Patriots. I see they have a ton of cap space, and I'm a Bill fan.

So it's a little bit concerning, not just for us, but for the entire AFC. If they can find someone like J.J. Watt, for instance, we see in the Super Bowl, if you get to Mahomes, he goes into a panic and can't really win the game. So, I mean, what do you think? He did not go into a panic. The guy was actually making plays. He threw three touchdowns that were dropped.

Patrick Mahomes did. Now, not a bad question there from old Tommy Donner Sherlett. But the thought of New England, they have to get a quarterback. Exactly. They have to build an entire roster. You get JJ. That's super. Yeah.

JJ plays tight end. Yeah. JJ does play tight end. Can he throw it? I assume he can. You remember? He plays tag. That's super. Yeah. JJ plays tight end. JJ does play tight end. Can you throw it? He, I assume he can. You remember? He plays tag. Oh, yeah.

I've seen him throw the ball to the top fucking level of a stadium. Okay. In real life. So, it's not like video. I've seen the entire thing. When he started doing that play catch with everybody thing, I assume everybody thought, there's no way you're going to be able to fucking do this and i

think that's why he continued to do it because it was like spite of all his teammates saying there's no way you're gonna be that takes up too much time he would be there it would be 35 40 minutes of him doing the full and it's in the pre pre warm-up when kickers and punters out there so i kind of i feel like i might have been one of the first people to really see it and i know this guy there's no fucking way. He did every single person that was in the stadium at the time he played catch with. And I go around, I'm like, does this guy even care about football? He's fucking, seriously.

Then he had a touchdown, I think two touchdowns, like four sacks or something like that. And he did that every single game. It got to a point, though, where some of those hucks were very fucking impressive. We're talking about people in the security guards up in the top, kicking that thing. He probably could play quarterback and tight end for the Patriots if he wanted to. But remember, it takes him an hour to go through DoorDash up here in Wisconsin. Who knows how many options.

He's got to kind of sift through some things. Is Bill Belichick on the horn to that log cabin in Wisconsin for J.J. Watt? Who knows? But it has been said that the Patriots are going to be very active in free agency. If he can play quarterback, let's give him number nine. We'll run the power option right and left every play and then we'll mix in a couple passes because, you know,

we don't have any receivers or tight ends at the moment. Well, he would be the tight end. He'd be throwing it. It'd be like the video where he throws it straight up in the air. Jamal Charles. Yeah. Remember those videos back in the day where the guy, who was it? Tony Gonzalez punched his hands through? Fantasy football commercials. This is why you should draft me.

Yeah. I think New Gen or Crosby had some kicks in there. Yeah. Andre Johnson catching two balls and then catching another. That was beautiful editing. Steven Jackson. Yeah, someone like jumps through a moving car window to window. Yeah.

And by the way, that was back whenever, I don't think the editing was as anywhere near or the effects were what they were now. Those edits were unbelievable. I thought they were all real. Of course. That's what I'm talking about. No way.

That's what I'm talking about. I remember having an argument with my friends. I'm like, this stuff's impossible, guys. CGI wasn't around yet. I think that was real. Well, you know, Mason Crosby did turn the clock to midnight, I think, with a... Yeah, he did. Oh, yeah.

Hitting the bells. Yeah. No, and then he actually turned the... Oh, yeah. I think he actually turned... Yeah, that one was probably real, if I had to guess. The other ones were just ridiculous, though. There were some that were absolutely ridiculous.

What's that, Gunnar? Well, you know, I think I believe in Zito. I believe that all that stuff happened. You're telling me Tony Gonzalez couldn't punch a hole in a wall and catch a ball? Yeah, he probably could. You're right. You're 100% right. Do you think they just had like 7,000 pieces of drywall for all the takes that it would take?

I'm telling you. I went to Home Depot to look at drywall. It's actually not that expensive. Hey, just a quick update, by the way. This is going to change. By the way, drywall is very cheap. Yeah, that is why it's drywall. Imagine wet drywall.

The wet wall. The wetwall. The wetwall? The cement. Nick tried to talk about my Ace Hardware going out of business. It's not. They're prepping for spring right now. Yeah! I didn't try to talk.

How dare you talk shit about Ace Hardware? He was so sad. I was genuinely upset about that. Nick was grinning like the butcher's dog when he told you. You should have heard my wife, though. My wife was not happy either. She goes to that Ace all the time. I mean, there was some... Oh, shit.

Is that me? Yeah, you're going to alert that dog a little bit? We've got to get a new one of these things, I think, somehow. That's what you get for telling lies. I didn't. You did. You told me Ace Hardware was going out of business. They got everything.

When I get an email that says 80% off, everything must go, I'm a little concerned. Well, they're worried about you. It's quarantine. Everybody's been busy. Take care of you. There's no stimulus checks coming. Hey, we got 80% off, all right? Whatever you can afford.

How do you get that email? Wait, do you go to A-Support? Oh, yeah. You VIP? Oh, yeah. You said Home Depot. You ain't. You're all, you always go to Home Depot.

You're from the big box store, dude. By the way, we will go to Home Depot if we have to, but. Oh, yeah. Just saying, oh, I won't not go to Home Depot You're fucking big box store dude By the way we will go to Home Depot if we have to Oh yeah Just saying I won't not go to Home Depot Good pain at Home Depot Don't forget about Lowe's Menards too Well Menards Don't

Save big money at Menards Some questionable paint mixing going on in that place Menards Come on Whoa What are they doing? Don't bring your Canadian painting hoity-toity bullshit down here to Menards. You can ask Nick about it.

I never question anything Menards. Thank you. Yeah, is that why you went so hard at Ace saying they're going out of business? Everything must go over there? 11% rebate. Jesus Christ. Why doesn't Home Depot have a jingle? Because they don't need it.

They had Smudge Stewart for a while, and that's all you needed. We talked about him. I don't know if you heard about that. I was there. I was here. Okay. Ty was here, too. Ty was here too much for that one.

Let's go to Cameron. By the way, hope everything's all right, Ty. Thank you, Ty. Thank you, Ty. Take care of yourself, Ty. He got a colonoscopy. All right, so you said it, not me. So people do know that this is-

Yeah, he's been tweeting about it. Okay. He got a colonoscopy, which, by so you said it, not me. So people do know that this is a colonoscopy. Okay, he got a colonoscopy, which, by the way, is a smart thing to do. You should go get your colon strapped. Similar to a colonoscopy. Yeah, it's very similar to that thing. I have not got one, but I should, I think, after reading about it a little bit. They go in to butthole, right? Yes, sir.

What kind of camera? 8K? It has to be. Especially now because it gets a little shitty. Uncut gems. He's got a camera in Montana. What's going on, Cameron? what's going on dude hey pat how you doing hey boys how you doing that camera that's great work i like what we're doing here in one time somebody got it right yeah bingo camera what do you want to talk about pal um let's talk about i saw on the herd this morning 28 teams apparently have called about russell wilson

i don't know if it's 28 i heard more than half though or something like third third yeah third okay so that's a 10.3 no 10 point probably six five 10.65 right uh yeah i think it checks out to me 10 10 10 is 30.65 6565 would be 95 so we'd have to add a little bit more there. So 10.66 teams. Divide by five. 10-2-3. 10-2-3 team, which is actually one-third of the NFL,

has reached out to see if Russell Wilson is available for trades. Allegedly, says DuVie Kleiman. A report says, per Mike Silver, that the asking price starts at three first-round draft picks. Now, that means that the Seattle Seahawks are thinking about it. Yeah. Okay? So the Houston Texans have not answered phone calls. The Houston Texans said, no, no, we ain't trading the player.

Now a report via Mike Silver, via Doovey Kleinman, says that the asking price starts at three first-round draft picks. So who's giving that information? Is that the Seattle Seahawks? Well, if somebody wants to fucking call, it's going to be three first-rounders. What if it's one player and two first-rounders? What if it's Carson Wentz and two future first-rounders? What are we thinking?

Is Russell Wilson coming to Indianapolis? No, no, no. I'm happy with Carson Wentz being the Indianapolis quote, okay? I am happy with that situation. I'm just saying hypothetically-wise, if it's a player in two other firsts, because if that player is a first-round draft pick, does that count as three firsts? So is it a player in two firsts potentially that Seattle's looking for? And if Russell Wilson ends up on the move because the chef on Team 3

is not happy with the way the Seattle Seahawks are operating, this is going to be electrifying to talk about because Russell Wilson is a dude. Wherever he goes, that team automatically becomes a team that is potentially going to win this whole thing. And will he have to change the end of interviews where he says, go Hawks? He most certainly will. That'll be something we talk about. Now, the Bears, can Nagy mess that one up? Could Nagy mess up Russell Wilson?

He could, a lot of people would say. But Russell Wilson's a fucking player now. That guy, no matter what you think of his hosting abilities. Pretty good. Exactly. Exactly what I was thinking. That's why I even said it. No matter what you think of him as a person.

Pretty good. Exactly. Incredible. Very good, yeah. As a football player, he is a guy. He is a guy guy. It's intriguing three firsts. Does that count as a player and two firsts,

or do they want three picks alongside that entire thing? What if the Cowboys didn't sign and trade with Dak? Ooh. So Jerry Jones decides he wants to pay Russell Wilson and not Dak, even though he's paid everybody else on that goddamn team. That would be the classic sports talk show, though. There's a chance Jerry Jones from his yacht down there in Miami makes a sign-and-trade. Dak

Prescott, franchise tag, traded to the Seattle Seahawks alongside two other picks for Russell Wilson, who's now your quarterback for America's team, the Dallas Cowboys. That would be a wild day. The internet would blow up if that was the case. Sports talk shows would be climaxing all over the screen for three to four days about that.

That doesn't seem likely. But three firsts nowadays with the way the world is, with the way the NFL is, that doesn't seem like that's out of touch for a lot of teams that need a quarterback, especially Russell Wilson-like quarterback. We got first-round draft picks who are quitting after one year. Yeah, Tennessee Titans guys. I mean, let's not worry about drafting first-round picks anymore. Let's trade those things away.

What's his name, Isaiah Wilson? Yeah. Isaiah Wilson tweets out that, I'm done with my football career as a Titan. No further comments. Great tweet. One of my favorite tweets I've ever heard in my entire life. GG with a blue checkmark.

He's a rookie offensive lineman. His at, which is very interesting, is Lazy. Like lazy, I think. Isaiah Lazy with an underscore. I'm done with football as a Titan. No further comments. Okay, he deletes that tweet. I'd assume somebody reached out to him.

I don't know. I guess his rookie year did not go as planned, but that's an electrifying tweet. It gets better and better every time I read it. You know what I mean? Just like the full-on no further comments. Like, here's the tweet. Don't fucking follow up. I'm actually

turning off all responses from anybody. I got no further comments. Don't even ask any questions. He inevitably has to delete it. But this goes to what you were pointing out. You have no idea if a guy from college is going to be able to make it in the NFL. It is a roll of the dice. There's going to be two different styles of building a team going forward. It's already kind of happening. Teams that draft and build and teams that just go and get free agents. If I was a general manager or I was any, which I would never be because I would never, never get that job.

But if I was ever a general manager or want that job, I don't want to be in a film cave all day, every day. I would be somebody that, get me somebody who's already proven that they're going to work against adults. Give me people that have transitioned to the men's league already. We know what to expect from them. They might be a little bit more high maintenance because they already have routines and shit. But the reason why they are where they are is because they've been successful. Let's do that. Because when you're drafting people, I mean, Bill Belichick has missed on numerous draft picks.

And that's like, what, our best guy, right? Him and Ernie are our best football minds, allegedly. You have no idea if somebody's going to be able to make the jump. And we're not saying that Laze is a failed NFL guy. He might go on to make it but you have no fucking idea what you're getting three first round draft picks is three potential superstars but potential get your ass fired that is literally how it is if i'm a gm and i can get fucking team three to come down and make plays now granted he's coming with a big salary cap

hit he's already signed and all that thing but if you have money, I would pull the trigger on that in a heartbeat, just like I would have for Matthew Stafford, by the way. The guy's a player. We already know he's going to make it in the men's league. How much is Russell? He's a 32 in 2021, 37 the year after that, and 40 the year after that. So a lot of money. You're getting a lot of money, but it's Russell Wilson at that particular point.

Yeah, like you just mentioned how hard it is to hit on guys. How hard is it to get a quarterback of that caliber? Like why aren't the Seahawks just saying, you know what, all right, fine. Bend the knee to Russ, get him a lineman or something, and let's see what we can do. I'll get him a lineman, let him be a part of more conversations. Remember in that interview with Dan Patrick, he was like, at the end of the day, it's your legacy, it's your team's legacy, blah, blah, blah.

But the fact that it's already getting out that three firsts is going to be the beginning of it, it's like, okay, so the Seahawks are thinking about it. If the Seahawks are thinking about it. If the Seahawks are thinking about it, in team three, the chef, the body guru, the landscaper, the villa keeper, the entire team marketing, hosting coach, all of the team three is, all right, we're getting them out of here.

Seattle's thinking we're getting out of here. Russell hasn't come out and said it or not, but you have to think that there's a chance Russell Wilson's on a goddamn move. What if he's a Miami Dolphin? Well, the Seahawks also keep saying they want to establish the run. Their running backs can't stay healthy. Marshawn came out of retirement to play in the playoffs. He was serving tequila in the Oakland Raiders parking lot 10 days before he played in a playoff game for the Seahawks

and scored a touchdown. You're 100% right. Now, that revolves around the offensive line and blah blah blah there's a whole thing but it's if russell wilson gets added to this incredibly crowded quarterback frenzy that we have once again we're gonna have somebody that isn't gonna have a job right now the question on one of the i think it was first take this morning uh would you rather have jamis or cam newton at this? And it's like both of them, it might not fucking matter with all the quarterbacks that are potentially moving.

And now Devontae Smith, Heisman winner from Alabama, he was asked. By the way, bullshit, what happened here? Very tough. This is much like the Ben Roethlisberger baloney beating situation that we hate that we had to cover because there's no reason that that should have gone out. Had to, though. Both are sticky situations.

Oh, come on. Well, one of them much more sticky than the other. The situation with Devontae, you think, that's, I'd assume, actually, Big Ben, they say, but the Devontae situation is one of these ones where he was asked by, you just got it. Nice. He was asked by an NFL team if he would rather have Tua or Mac Jones and I don't know how this information is getting out Albert Breer must heard it from somebody this is an incredibly difficult spot for Devante to get put into to talk about two guys I

assume are his friends in this whole thing uh but whenever he was asked Albert Breer was reporting that Devante Smith didn't hesitate, and he said, Matt Jones, immediately upon saying that. So I would assume Tua is reading this report and going, well, what the fuck, Devontae? And then Devontae's saying, like, hey, I was talking to an NFL team that might be drafting me. What am I supposed to do? The fact that that information got out, I think, is absolute bullshit. Albert Breer's doing his job.

Whoever told Albert Breer this, I'm not a big fan of it, but is Matt Jones potentially now a guy that people are talking about? This is Mitt's guy, by the way. Mitt's been talking about this. But with the Heisman winner coming out and saying, this guy by far over this, now you've got people allegedly, which we called this was going to happen, is Zach Wilson better than Trevor Lawrence?

Some teams have Zach Wilson of BYU ahead of Trevor Lawrence, who's been the number one pick since he was in high school. So you add in these rookies that are potentially getting drafted and all these vets that are potentially moving, it's inevitable that somebody's going to end up without a seat, and it's going to be the full conversation of, is there 32 guys better than that guy? The answer is no, but the situations we know are situational.

Of course he's going to say Mac Jones. You're trying to raise your buddy's draft stock. Tua's already on a team. Mac's been at 15, and some people have him at five. Why wouldn't you say Mac Jones just to help him out a little bit? I don't think Devontae's just going to say a guy's name just to help him out in that particular situation. I mean, yeah, winning the Heisman with him probably

also kind of helps a little. That NFL team putting him in that position, wild. And that NFL team being like, you should fucking hurt with Devontae right to Albert Breer. It's like, whoa, whoa, whoa. Maybe it's the Dolphins. Whoa. What? You think the Dolphins. Whoa. What?

You think the Dolphins talked to Devontae and they're like, all right, tell us. You play with Tua. We saw what he did this year. Okay? Play with Mack. What do you think? He was like, Mack, by far, what a stud.

And they're like, shout out you, dude. Okay. Albert, even his old teammates say he stinks. What if that is what happened, by the way? That would be how the game works, too. It's kind of fucked up. We shouldn't even cover it. Dump everything we just dealt with. Dump it. It's unbelievable Devontae was put in that position though. Like I do not like that much

that it was leaked out in that entire thing. It's just like because in that interview Devontae's just giving answers right trying to be the best representation of himself. This is a job interview i'm going to get to the nfl to put him in that position to pick between two guys that are friends and then

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It was called Lake Dorn. Ladies and gentlemen, Josh Nolte. What's going on, Josh? How you doing, pal? What's up, Pat? How you doing, bro? I'm fantastic. You and I are home here.

Yeah, me and AJ. Can't thank you enough for joining us. You're joining us to talk about what you're doing with the Boys and Girls Club in your hometown. Absolutely incredible. Stars 24 Teen Center. Can you talk about that a little bit, by the way? Giving back to the community. Let's go.

That's what it's all about. Let's talk about that a little bit here, Josh, before we dive into some things. Yeah, man. This has been, what, 10 years in common. Started back in 2012. Hometown, Greenwood, South Carolina. I went out there, I said move, and I moved in this space. And it was to get kids excited for something that was coming because they closed down the rec center,

so the kids got into a little bit of gang-related activity and violence. And back then we rose to the number one murder rate in the state of South Carolina, which is unheard of. Something that I never thought that could ever happen in my hometown. And so we started putting on activities. And there we found Stars 24, the Stars being the kids

and backed by me. And so we went out there and started creating these events for them each and every year. But we looked up five years later and was like, hey, look, man, we need some brick and mortar. We need something on the ground for these kids to go to. Events is great, but what can we have to have a center? And so probably like 2017, I ended up running into a couple of people with the Boys and Girls Club that was on the board of that center. Girls Club that was on the board of that team's center.

And so I ended up going in, having communications with them, and met with them and told them my idea and what I wanted to do, my hometown. And so we ended up having a great partnership. And so we ended up breaking ground on 2019. Let's go. Let's go let's go and and uh and so um 2000 will help now 21 coming up on friday 26 we will be cutting the ribbon for the stars 2014 congratulations doing good things changing the world that's awesome man congratulations on doing that happy i just learned that about you by the way did not know you've been doing that for years.

Thank you for taking care of your community. Let's talk about football now, shall we? Hey, bro, I like how you spent that. I like how you just went through that and just, shoot, let's go right into it. Yeah, well, I think it's an awesome thing, and we'll get to it at the end, by the way, because whenever you're with, no, we'll get back to it, because I think whenever you see somebody who has taken, you know world by storm in their profession giving back to the community gives a

lot of people hope but let's talk about this when you're with carolina it feels like you were a much different player than you are now in buffalo i i feel like back whenever you're with carolina a lot of noise was coming around josh norman maybe it was shit talking or whatever you've gotten to buffalo now have you completely transformed into this quiet assassin up there? Has there been a transition or has it just been not as much coverage on Josh Norman? Well, Pat, I think you know, like, when you get to a certain place in life, things change and you start to see what life really is

and what it's all about. I think coming into the league in Carolina, before I say that, I think it's a fine line between confident and being cocky. And back in those days, for sure in Carolina, man, I had so much cockiness about me and my moxie was through the roof. And I really wanted to take out everybody I saw. And that was something that within me, I wanted that bad, really bad. And so as I developed into the person I wanted to be,

because I've always wanted to be the number one cornerback in the world, not just on a team, just all time. That's what I wanted. And my mindset was going to get there. And I wanted to be the highest paid. Mindset always wanted to do that. Being an all-pro bowler, being a championship

winner of the game, the Super Bowl, I've always wanted those things. And I've accomplished all those except one. And now, when I got paid, when I went to Washington, and those things happened,

I guess a couple years after that, I started to really look. When I got to my 30s, man, like, yo, what is this life really about? I'm passionate for football. I found like I thought it was going to be my purpose, but actually I quickly found that this is a passion of mine. Like I love to do it, but, like, what is life? If I go through this life and you remember me as just a football player on my tombstone, that's what you put, then I failed you all.

That's awesome. Like, so what if I'm really doing, what if I'm giving back to people to get them to where I'm at in this life? So I've looked at what's my purpose purpose and I've been doing it all along. It's been giving back to people and helping people, you know, get to that next level within their life because somebody helped me. And now I'm trying to just pay that back for it and, and give them grace where fathers have shown me.

And that's where all this is coming from. Truly. I'm just finding that personal relationship with him and developing myself through that hey speaking of that moxie that you're talking about to play cornering to be an elite corner at any level don't you have to have a crazy amount of confidence in yourself yeah it may look like cockiness but you're on the island like there's there's not a whole lot of help for you if If you lose that, I can imagine it would be a very difficult position. Yeah, for sure, for sure. That is to be on the island, you have to have that. But also, those guys who are masters at their craft, who are masters at the game, they got to have a little craziness.

They got to have a little something to them that sets them apart from the rest. And you can probably look on your hand and count like how many of those are because like they have to go a little bit deeper than others. And for myself, I knew that I had to outwork and work harder than anybody else. that I had to outwork and work harder than anybody else. And I still stay out to practice and get it because my mindset is I don't want to be outworked by anybody. How old are you? How old are you, Josh? 33.

I think she was age 33. Hey, 33 playing corner in the NFL is, I mean, that is the most difficult position athletically for people to stay at. Were you, are you going to move? You think, well, you will, will Sean McDermott have you move around in there? Are you, are you open to that? Has that conversation happened? Anything like that? Or what, what is. No, man, listen, man, I felt so good. Like last year,

like to the point where, you know, my moving, my ability, like nothing that's like in a part of shut off or change in that aspect. It's just now there's ops that we get, the opportunities that present themselves. Of course, that position is different. It's difficult. But when you're in the position as long as we've been in, it has to be now. So of I've been here before. I have the knowledge. I have the capabilities of how to stop somebody who's extra fast, how to stop somebody who's quick, my technique and what I use and how my hand placement on a guy. I'm more so well equipped in my knowledge of what I've been given because I've seen so many guys

that I can stop that because of being in the league so long and seeing how many routes and what the route combinations are. Who's somebody that's incredible? Obviously, there's a lot of studs that play wide receiver, but throughout your years, have you, as you've changed the way you play now at this point, who's the hardest type of wide receiver to defend? Obviously, Tyreek Hill, who kill who runs what a 4-1 or whatever that's going to be difficult but what is the receiver now in today's nfl that is the

most difficult kind of is it with the rules and the way everything is i think yourself mentally hey that's some deep shit josh that that is some very very deep shit right there that is that is very very real i'm being real like if you very, very deep. No, it's real. I'm being real. Like, if you're going to tell yourself, oh, this guy's fast. Like, I don't know. I may – my hands sweat, and I don't know if I missed a jam. Like, I may have been quick.

Like, no. I'm fast. Like, I'm going to do – I'm going to whoop his, you know what, on his line so he don't get off. Like, and if I do slip him, this is how I got to recover. You know? You got to outthink that receiver before he outthinks you. Because he already knows.

When you get up to the line, I see it split. It's quarter half inside. So how am I going to split this? How am I going to get around him? All right. Guess what? Right before the ball snap, guess what I'm going to do? I don't want him to go outside. So I'm inside. I'm quarter split. I let him know that. All right. Cool. Right before the ball snapped, guess what I'm going to do? I don't want him to go outside. So I'm inside. I'm quarter split.

I let him know that. All right, cool. Right before the ball snapped, he already looking at me. He's got to look back at the ball because he's got to see a snap so he can take off. Guess what I'm going to do? I'm going to change it up. Ooh!

Outside. So right now he's like, oh, shoot, I'm flustered. So how do I get away from that? The very good ones, like, where I receive is that the top of the league can do that. They can get away from that. They can switch it up because how you switch it up, it's just like playing chess. It's not chess. It's chess.

You can switch it up real quick. Diggs, oh, my gosh, that guy, he is – he switches it up. I mean, you can see what he does. Like, he stutter steps. His stop is slow. Like, he never runs the route the same and if you notice that he's one of those guys that catch you off beat man you have to be in the game with him and it's real chess playing that guy so um yeah it's it's all about how you

perceive you know that wide receiver did you have all that when you came in the league or do you have like was there an older guy that kind of taught you the way or showed you the way? No. I didn't have that when I came in the league. I had to develop it. You know it's almost like having a tool belt. An arsenal of tools. Like I didn't develop my punch out until after 2015-16 being able to see it and believe in what I can do. I saw Peanut do it. He came and he was playing with us that year and then

I saw how I wanted to be better at him. I wanted to be better at the punch out than he was because that's all I heard. My coach Steve Wilson was telling me all I heard. Peanut, you can punch out. I just saw it and I'm like, I'm tired of hearing this crap.

I'm about to steal this man move and i put it in my tube belt and i just used it as i couldn't get nothing in the air so i get it on the ground like it's got to be a mindset um is that the mindset that you know puts you in an interesting i, this year you got put in an interesting. I mean, it was the internet, you know. You know, they got to. What? So, I got to ask you a question. Why is that so hard to say? What is running this? Because I don't want, you know, I don't want you to think like, hey,

I'm disrespecting because all the great things. That's no disrespect. You already know the game. But you play for how long? Okay, good. You got got there by Derek. You know the game. Yeah, you got got there. It good. You got got there by Derek. You know the game. Yeah, you got got there.

It's going to happen, right? That's your mindset? Come on, man. Everybody knows I'm going to go for the football. That's the first and foremost thing, regardless of if I get put out there or not. There's many people that get put on those type of posters and memes or just trying to go for the ball. I don't care nothing about that.

If I can get the ball back for my team, I can be put on a thousand memes. Hell yeah. I don't even have freaking football games. That's all I care about, man. But guess what? If it happens again, I'm going to come back and do the same thing. Like, I don't care. Like, it's the game.

This is what we play. People use it as, oh, shoot, it's the social world. That's what happened, man. People get caught up in this social media crap. They take it and they use it. But they didn't show the next three plays we came back and we got off the field, made three plays in a row. But no,

I'm not trying to show that. That's going to sell. By the way, that's why when I bring it up, I'm like, you know, you did a lot of great things. Have to talk about this because I live in the internet, you know, so I have to it's who we are, though. They always have to be something towards

us. And I get it. Like we built that. We make that for ourselves so people still have that, you know, whatever they feel about me on that. And I get it. It is what it is. But for me, I'm always going to take that that pressure road. I'm always going to take it as, all right, this is who I am inside these lines.

And I'm going to bring it. So you better bring it. And if you're going to bring it, I'm going to bring it even more. And so he did. And it's cool. It happened. I tried to get at the ball. He threw me down.

I got back up, got in his face like, we're going to be here all day. It didn't even count. all day. It didn't even count. But, you know, that's just what this social world is. Well, to be honest, we live in that social world, and it's a toxic place. I do

apologize, but I am very thankful that you did something amazing in your hometown with the Boys and Girls Club. I know you've got some conversations to promote that. I hope more people talk about that instead of, you know, the moment where you're trying to get the ball back for your damn team and the actual avatar cutout gave you a stiff arm. I mean, that's not going to happen.

We appreciate you so much, Josh. Good luck with everything, man. Thank you, man. Ladies and gentlemen, Josh Norman. Shout out, Josh Norman, man. Shout out. I had to ask. Had to.

Had to ask about it. Didn't want to, though, because he has done so many good things. But whenever something happens like that, you got to, I mean, you got to, especially MVP year potentially for a running back. Do you remember this? And, by the way, I love the fact that he got up and he said, hey, we're going to do this again. Don't you worry about it.

That takes a certain mental toughness to your point asking him, AJ, to be able to get got like that and then just get right back up and be like, I don't give a single damn about it. Good for Josh Norman. That dude's been through a lot in his career. Yeah, he has. And he's also like, does he still work for Fox? Like he's still playing. He's still doing studio shows for them.

We talked about that yesterday whenever we heard he was coming on the show him and Ryan Clark at the same time were kind of doing like ESPN while playing but uh kind of setting up for and then that kind of stopped I think right yeah that's what I meant by the way with like Josh Norman there was a lot of noise around Josh Norman when he was at Carolina then he goes to Washington a lot of noise around now he's up in Buffalo and that team's doing well, and it's almost like when he was talking about different – when you get different ages or whatever. I did – that was a great conversation. Very deep.

I did not expect that. That was awesome. Is there many teammates that, like, earlier in their career, they were cocky and louder, that they did mature then and become like Josh is now, who's just – I'm sure it's happened before. I'm not – I don't know, though. Nobody was really – with our locker room, I mean, I guess towards the end there,

it kind of, you know, you could see the world changing, society changing as the locker room got younger there towards the end. But it's hard to walk in there and be arrogant, you know, when, like, Peyton's quarterbacking. You know what I mean? Like, Andrew Luck's there and Reggie's there. It's kind of hard to be like, yeah, I'm the motherfucking guy here. It's like, no, no, there actually is.

That motherfucking guy is here, actually. So,, yeah, I'm the motherfucking guy here. It's like, no, no, there actually is. That motherfucking guy is here, actually. So, I mean, I'm the punter. You're definitely above me, but you are nowhere. Okay, so we got to figure that out. That's kind of like an NFL locker room, though. Josh Norman was a dude. Like, he was the dude, though, for a long time, you know? So it's just in that position, you got to be able to have it.

I was excited to chat with him there. That's a good thing he's got going on. I think he has a healthy outlook on like yeah like becoming a gift getting you know derrick henry i don't think anyone can blame him for getting stiff arm but yeah he's going for the ball and i wanted to ask him i wonder if players i know what happens with coaches i know coaches feel pressure from the outside from the media and everything and social media is big but you think players play any differently like subconsciously because they are worried about what it may look like online a lot of people don't take chances anymore in life

i don't know about players but i'm just talking about in life people don't take chances anymore you don't you don't see a lot of people and that was a part of that social dilemma thing by the way with like how everybody's starting to look the exact same basically everybody's starting to act the exact same you don't really see any as many people. You still see people that are outliers or whatever, but because of the conformity of everything, if you do this, you're going to get got, people are less likely to take risks, I guess, which is probably smarter in the long haul for things,

but it's also a shame because you're not getting to see some special abilities potentially because they're scared they're going to get mocked or ridiculed. I would assume NFL guys are at the point where they don't care but i would assume college guys there's a lot of potential decisions being made because of social media and things like that yeah i think it's definitely possible you have to take risk we wouldn't have tesla or spacex elon never took a chance right yeah or top shot i mean fucking a starling starling and i'm not in indiana yet it can get to the fucking moon this guy let's get to a break so you can buy gifts yeah i'm buying 580 bucks is i on duncan

dude three four years from now we crashed the site but i was still disabled we potentially crashed the site today we're a part of the the site crashing which is cool because top shots the next wave bet oh yeah but, yeah. But you can sell that. You're going to buy it, and then you're going to sell it to some other stooge that wants to buy a gift? Whoa. Nah, stooge, I'm going to sell it to who hasn't been born yet. 13, 14 years, there'll be some 15-year-old using his dad's credit card. I'm going to sell that thing.

Okay. All right. Maybe I'll have to get on there. Is there a site I can go to? Well, it's crashed right now, yeah. Not right now. Can't do anything. Any info on Tiger? Well, that's what I was, yeah. Not right now. Can't do anything. Any info on Tiger?

Well, that's what I was just... Here's TMZ. He's reporting that this is the audio from the crash. That's TMZ. Obviously. I thought they were commercialed. It's the quietest helicopter I've ever heard. So that's a nothing.

Oh, dispatch audio. Here we go. That's DMZ. Hey, let me hear you. It's going to be on the southbound traffic running between B-D-R North, Silversburg. Can I get a unit to go ahead and start blocking off southbound traffic

from B-D-R North? B-D-R North, sorry. You got him, okay, sir. One, sorry, see you, bye. locking off southbound traffic from TV Drive North. Acer, what's going through your automobile card? 133, bye. Okay, go ahead. Acer, those cars, the last ones, you have all southbound traffic locked off from Hawthorne and North. Copy, thank you. Okay, ma'am, do we have an ETA for fire?

We have a rollover with someone trapped. Yes, I'll have to phone with them. Let me call them back. Very calm. Is there a Levitian in not testing? Yes, we have a one copy. Okay, I'm going to need a unit to accompany the ambulance transporting HGH, please. Is it HGH? Yeah, I'm on to need a tune-in to a company that ambulance transports an HGH, please. Is it HGH? Yeah, they're on the way.

Is it the General Hospital? Not much there. There's another tweet saying that his injuries range from moderate to critical. He had surgery, though, so it had to be something. What are you saying, Connor? I'm just saying that's a wide range. Oh, yeah. I didn't think.

Critical's bad. Moderate's not that bad. There's a, there's a, there's a, oh, my God. Come on, brain. Do it. Do it. Do it. I watched this documentary, and it was just like.

There is an actual group of humans in L.A. where they are not the fire they're maybe a part of the fire department but their job is to get people that have fallen off the roads they were looking for like a new new truck or something like that this happens i think out in la on a i think it happens more often yeah than we think because of this whole thing but it's always scary obviously in time we have tiger but there's an entire crew, I think, that actually goes and pulls people out of that whole thing. You're Googling it right now, Zito?

Yeah, it's very... My Google search is a group of people in L.A. that help people on the side. I forgot road. Or cliff. Car rescue? California car rescue or something like that? I'll stick with that. No, it is... The one video actually didn't look like it was Cliff. He went across. car rescue California car rescue or something like that

no it is the one video actually didn't look like it was a cliff he like went across the road yeah from the outside angle it's just a street and then like 20 yards to the side and then there's houses so it's not a cliff so how'd it roll

that much he must have went in and then rolled that so he must have something in the road, hit the dirt, and then started rolling that way. Yeah, where the tracks were, it looked like he might have hit a patch of dirt, yeah, sand. But there's not a lot of room there. The photo they show from the top part looks way more than you actually look at the video. I wonder how he got. Yeah.

Why is my phone beeping? Sometimes when I talk to my phone, it beeps. No, I don't have. Siri? Yeah, I don't have Siri turned on. Never have, never will. Don't listen, bitch. You'll see.

There's a video in the group chat that shows his path. Yeah. She does listen, by the way. Oh, yeah. No matter what. Those are the cookies of what I've learned. The East Coast. What?

So a few hours now, since this has happened, so 10-12 on the East Coast. There's a median. Yeah, probably. So a few hours now, since this has happened, and clearly investigators are still trying to figure out uh what exactly went on i know andy blankstein a moment ago was talking about another car but again

from the aerials that we have seen and again this is all happening as we are as we are speaking so bear with us but from the aerials that we've seen, I so far have not seen... Hey, so he goes across road, median, cross road. Looks like there's some trees and shit, too. Gets on the other side of those. I mean, I think, obviously, at this point, anytime you need jaws of life, lucky to be alive. But that whole thing, that

was insane to think about. How'd this happen? It's very close to house. Like, there's houses, like... Yeah, here's the MSNBC video. Hey, so when he crossed the median, was he going into oncoming traffic then i think so yeah so if he was turning right scary scary audio when they say we have a rollover with one trapped yeah but then he ends up on the other side of all those trees there look there's cops looking through he's over there how do you thread the needle through those that's what i'm saying how the fuck did he we probably hit one of them judging by the front of that car.

Yeah. Yeah, but he still made it all that way. Was he going 100 miles an hour? I mean, how do you even? Maybe he was swerving to avoid somebody coming at him. There are no skid marks, though, so it doesn't look like he ever, like, reacted to anything. Oh, jeez. So the median seemed like it might have popped up on him real quick, sent him into a.

Something. I don't know. When you start hitting your brakes. You'd think. Tiger Woods. And he never did. You hit sand, too you hit sand too it's tough to yeah you can really roll but it seems like he stayed on can we run that video back shout out msmbc by the way he's going like go back right okay so is this all one way no idea so that's where he went through the median right there yeah he goes through the median then he gets back on the road and there's what no skid marks oh i said no

that's a tree shadow there it didn't hit that telephone pole somehow oh those are what the how the fuck did this happen? Yeah. Someone's going to have some dash cam footage or something, like eventually. If this was Russia, they would. Russia's got everything. What are you saying about Russia? They got the... They got the cameras on all the hoods. That's when you just see humans just getting erased.

They got pigeons saluting Putin. I mean, they're watching everything. This is the car? Yeah, it's from the opposite angle. God. Jeez. Darn. Have you ever been in a big wreck like that?

Can they show the... I've... I crashed my Shelby in my driveway. Is that the one you crashed with Sam in the car and you told her, okay, we got to break up now? Yeah, it was early in our relationship. She told me that story. Unbelievable.

You crashed the car, you were embarrassed, and so you said, all right, we're done. You got to go. Yeah. The plan was just never have to see her again or talk about that ever again. She said, I'm not leaving. Good for her.

We got to get this car towed because it is still beeping. The alarm is broken right now. Did you make up a story to the tow truck? I don't know. My crazy old cousin took it while I was sleeping. I don't know what happened. No. And also, I needed to get towed from my driveway to my barn,

which is just down one little road. The tow truck guy had quite a chuckle. You know what I mean? It is a first. He said, what happened? Well, I was trying to drift it. You see, and the pothole just got here yesterday. I used to be pretty good drifting that thing, and then it turned.

It'll turn on you. You know what I then it it turned it'll turn on you you know what i mean i guess it will turn on you dk you hit a pothole in the driveway so i mean i did that pothole was not there maybe the hundred times i've done that before by the way i was drifting that thing out of my house basically oh really i mean it's 600 and some horsepower rear wheel drive stick got to go so anytime you hit that thing a of my house basically oh really i mean it's 600 some horsepower rear wheel drive stick gotcha man so anytime you hit that thing a little bit it goes it's like oh wait a second and i gotta obviously circle it from my house because i'm very wealthy now the i hit that thing around the circle and it just starts spinning i'm like okay okay we can do this every day basically

and it just became like natural habit and then all of a sudden that fucking bottle came out of nowhere and that into a tree took tree nowhere Into a tree Took the tree out I'd take the tree completely out I think it's unbelievable that Sam wasn't Mad at you I would have been mad at you If you were trying to drift with me in the car She'd probably been in there before

With a successful drift out of the driveway Each time she probably said This is fun until it's not Until you smash a tree Sam isn't soft though Drift king dude DK Each time she probably said, like, this is fun until it's not, until you smash a tree. Say it wasn't soft, though. You know what I mean? Drift king, dude.

Which is not. DK? Is that what you meant, DK? Tokyo Drift? What? I used to really be able to float that thing. I don't do it anymore at all. I'm scared to death of it. I'm surprised you don't have some kind of tractor or something in the barn that you could have towed it yourself.

I do have a zero turn lawnmower that probably could have pulled that thing if I had to get it. That thing's nice. You put that thing in the rabbit hole, that thing will probably pull that son of a bitch right out of there if I had to get it. I'm going to have to test that. Man, I hope Tiger's all right, dude. Apparently. Oh, no. Uh-oh.

Come on. Apparently, Daily County Sheriff's Department told CBS News Los Angeles Woods' injuries are non-life-threatening. That's a plus. That's a broken leg. So he's not going to die. Hopefully. Will he go off again? Tiger Woods will go off again well tiger woods golf again how bad this is gonna be let's hope it's gonna be a

huge thing for the next couple weeks don't you think like whenever when's he gonna make his first on-camera remarks we're gonna get a video of him in a gun oh yeah he's gonna be putting yeah you know what i mean and they're gonna be, we have not seen the end of this story. I hope so bad. I was reading something else. I know this week he was supposed to have like an MRI for his back.

So like, maybe that itself fixes the back. Oh, come on. It just feels like with all the injuries he's had. Don't say it.

Don't say it, dude. Don't say it. I'm not saying it. Don't be a piece of shit. Oh, you mother fucker. Someone's got to be a realist. I'm just saying. Don't be a piece of shit. Someone's got to be a realist. I'm just saying. That sucks.

All the rehab, all the stuff that he has to do. Yeah, we're talking about Tiger. Yeah, it's another great comeback story, dude. He was already rehabbing his back, Connor. Now he just rehabs his legs and his back. Oh, yeah. That's easy. I hope so, dude. All right.

Let's get out of here. By tomorrow, I assume there will be some sort of update on Eldrick Woods and his condition. Hope he's okay. Can't thank you enough for choosing to listen to the show. The fact that you allow us to penetrate your ear holes, I am eternally grateful for. We'll be back tomorrow with another massive show. Mitt, Money Mitt, please play some independent music

and propel these people into a beautiful Tuesday night. We got a massive show coming for you tomorrow. Probably updates on the tiger situation, everything else popping off. Be a friend, tell a friend. If you enjoyed the show, if not,

fuck off. Ta or Mitt, please play some independent music. Hope you have an incredible Tuesday. See you tomorrow. Thank you. សូវាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប� Thank you. សូវាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប� Thank you.