The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 368 - NFL's "Massacre Monday," Bob Huggins, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: March 8, 2021

On today's show, Pat and the boys chat about the impending massacre Monday that was a bit underwhelming but did see some big time players get released, they sift through the weeds of the report that Tom Brady said he was interested in the Buccaneers acquiring Odell Beckham, Pat's incredible weekend gambling on the UFC, Golf, and more, plus everything else that has been going on in the NFL as we approach free agency. Joining the show is current Head Basketball Coach for the West Virginia Mountaineers, one of the greatest college basketball coaches of all-time, a man on the precipice of 900 career wins, Bob Huggins. Pat and Coach Huggins chat about his career up to this point, what he likes about this year's team, coaching and recruiting during the pandemic, and why he's meant to be coaching at West Virginia (55:22-1:21:17). Later, Pat and AJ Hawk chat about the current landscape of the NFL, if it's going to be Russell Wilson or Pete Carroll who is done in Seattle first, Shinigami's fight this weekend, and the people who have to come and speak in front of and NFL locker room (1:22:40-1:50:28). Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow and listen every day on Mad Dog Radio, Sirius XM Channel 82. We appreciate you all for listening, come and laugh with us, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hey, how's it going? I got something going on with the damn vocal cords. I don't know what happened. Woke up Saturday, didn't have a voice. You know, I mean, there's a couple tones and pitches I can't get to, but the conversation today is dynamic. Yeah, it's awesome. I'm actually coming around on the voice too. If you stayed like this, I don't know if that'd be a bad fit. I mean, very gravely, it sounds awesome. Oh yeah, you you know maybe it's like a signature voice yeah i don't know how we got here i would assume some decisions i've made through my life potentially led us to this point with this particular voice here sure but it just came out of nowhere on

saturday sounds good it is textbook radio voice hey welcome all right we got a pretty good show for you today i think if you enjoy it by the end of it, please be a friend, tell a friend. If not, just act like it never happened. Let's get to it. I woke up on Saturday morning, didn't have the full voice. What's going on? Is it the pollen? Because it does feel like Punxsutawney Phil, that lion fucking groundhog is wrong again. It's going to be 70 outside, Phil.

Suck it. Hell yeah. Is it the pollen or is it the new bong that we got in the office that I potentially took to the face Friday that could have incubated in my vocal cords and decided to show up on Saturday morning? I'm not 100% sure. I feel good.

The voice might not sound great. It might drop out every once in a while whenever I try to get to certain tones, but we're going to have a hell of a Monday because there's a lot of shit going on. This is the beginning of Massacre Week in the NFL. Cap casualties are going to be in abundance. Richie Incognito, I guess, is about to be the first one gone from the Raiders. He'll be on the market healthy, ready to play for anybody. Zach Ertz is allegedly going to

get traded. Odell Beckham's wanted in Tampa, says Tom. This is going to be a wild week. All the while, college basketball is heating up. We got tourneys. We got madness on the other side of this. And hopefully we have your phone calls. 1-888-MADDOG6. Yesterday, Tone, you're a man who's a you know, classic degenerate. Classic, yeah. Have reasons for your bets and everything like that. Last week you invited on Hammer Don a man

named Cutmaker Jeff is a guy from Indiana. Looks like he lives on the sun. Loves golf. The guy was amazing whenever you talked to him last Wednesday on Hammered Down, he gave out four different people that could potentially win Arnie's tournament yesterday. One of them was Bryson DeChambeau. I put five huns on that guy.

Riding the wave. The DeChambeau-er coaster yesterday. It was unbelievable. I won $7,000 yesterday. Yes, right. Just on golf. But I'll tell you what, you want to make golf better, you go ahead and gamble on it. Yesterday, watching that Arnie tournament, watching Bryson DeChambeau

slaughter golf balls, make long putts, put a little bit of pressure on Westwood. Jordan Spieth decided to play golf good again, and then he decided not to again. It was an awesome weekend of sports, of golf. And I'll tell you what, Diggs, thank you for having that man on Hammer Don last week

because he made me a quick 7K. Guys won a lot this year. Golf betting carried a lot of us through the pandemic last year because it was one of the first things back, and I've fallen in love with it. I love that you've fallen in love with it because we've got the players coming up, and then we've got Augusta. There's going to be a lot of golf betting

and watching Bryson DeChambeau hit bombs over the next month or so. I will say Max Homo wins two weeks ago. He came on the show immediately afterwards. Colin Morikawa won last week. He came on the show immediately afterwards. Bryson DeChambeau wins. Not only the tourney, but me, a bunch of money.

There's no chance this guy's coming on the show. There's no chance. He's in the lab, boys. He's talking in the lab. You think you can drive the ball 370 yards by sitting, maybe pounds too with the way he's going, sitting in a chair talking to me? No way.

Now, with that being said, Colin Morikawa coming off a week break after winning. Look for him to win the players this weekend. He seems to be a lock. He just learned how to putt. But golf is something, and I posted about this yesterday on my Instagram, at Pat McAfee Show, the smallest, by the way, of all the platforms,

mostly because of the face, if I had to guess. That is why it is the way it is. No big deal. I put a little bit of pressure on myself, though. I said I'm going to commit to the great sport of golf again. Ten years ago, I was playing three, four times a week. I had a 5'6 handicap. I got a couple people in my comments that said they don't believe it.

Fuck you. I haven't played in a year. I'll go beat your ass right now if I have to. I'm going to commit to it this spring. Yesterday, you already started. Welcome back, Boston Conner. Man was on the course yesterday It's great to have you back in here pal

Great to be back Pat And yeah I was actually on the course yesterday With sales guy Brian And I was trying to be like DeChambeau I think I got my club speed up to You know 150, 175 Getting in that area Still hitting it 300 yards left

And those are the ones that were not put on Instagram Right? The one you're talking about right there Because your golf head speed Club head speed 300 yards left. And those are the ones that were not put on Instagram, right? Not at all. The one you're talking about right there, because your golf head speed, club head speed, looked to be around 20 to 25 miles an hour with the one that I watch. It was a warm-up, I would assume. But the way DeChambeau fucking swings, they zoom in on him. And I was a little bit worried, by the way.

And I think the commentators were as well. He was out there practice round 720 at night the night before, on Saturday night or whatever. They're like, he is playing an exhausting style of golf. The amount of numbers that are in his head while he's golfing. And by the way, when you're golfing, the last thing you want in your head is anything. And Bryson DeChambeau has debunked that entire theory with the way he's going.

I thought there was a chance, though, you know, 15, 16, 17, 18 maybe, when it gets really, like when it gets down to those moments, I thought there was a chance he fucking just completely duck hooks that thing to the left or whatever. Instead, he was driving the ball further as he went on. This guy's going to change golf forever. And I'm going to say this, it was awesome to watch him golf. Now, that course, by the way, is set up for that type of action.

If you can drive over all the water. He is so much fun to watch as a golfer. Now, I had a lot of money on him, so I probably made a little bit better. That guy might change fucking golf, Ty Schmick. He is really fun to watch. I mean, what was it, Thursday when he first said he was going over the water and right after he just fucking piped it and just put his arms up, was like, you know, get going,

get going. I usually don't like him, but he was really fun to watch yesterday. That was the most fun I've had watching a golf tournament in a long time. Hey, golf ball whacker guy, by the way. Legit. Burying putts too. So he was burying 20, 25 foot putts, by the way. Theying 20, 25-foot putts, by the way.

The one he rammed home to win it, by the way. Like, if he misses that, we're going to another hole. He probably wins anyways. He put that thing in with some authority. And then he immediately was like, yeah, fuck you. Like, he has really brought. I know. I mean, I think we hated on him for saying that he ate nine protein bars

and all that stuff. I think we bashed him for that. That guy is, I mean, there's going to be a lot of bombers going forward. Now, not that there isn't bombers or whatever, but you look at a lot of professional golfers. We talked to Morikawa. That kid's going to make $700 billion. He's an iron player.

Like, his irons are good. Dustin Johnson was always able to hit the ball far or whatever. But what DeChambeau is coming, he has a long drive approach, okay, which we always have. You always have one person on your scramble team, okay, who just is swinging a fucking telephone pole at these and just absolutely crushed it. Then when the 56 or 53 gets in their hands, the wedge of some sort,

that thing's getting bladed and that thing is gone. They do not care. Get us back on the tee box here. This is a showtime, a scramble. He has this ability now, DeChambeau, and he's probably going to have to keep honing this in. If you kill the ball like he does, boy, those courses get smaller. Everything gets a lot easier.

He's making putts. What if this son of a bitch goes on to be the guy? I mean, there is a chance after watching him yesterday he can do that, but also there's a chance with that much's making putts. What if this son of a bitch goes on to be the guy? I mean, there is a chance after watching him yesterday, he can do that, but also there's a chance with that much thinking in your head, it could all combust in one swing. Just absolutely he bounced back after a couple bad shots,

but I loved watching golf yesterday. I absolutely loved it. I said I'm going to get back into it this year. I think I'm going to. I'd have to golf in the morning. That's an early alarm clock, but man, is there anything better than getting out there and hitting a good shot? Nope. It was kind of a given. He did have that one bad shot off the tee that came up about a foot short of the

water, which after that happened, you knew there was no chance he was losing because Lee Westwood is a notable, known choker for his entire career. And after Spieth fell off, but hey. True. Yeah, but he's back. Lee Westwood, 10 years ago was the last time he was in a world ranking contention. Now he's got his fiancee on the bag. He's back. Lee Westwood, 10 years ago, was the last time he was in a world ranking contention. Now he's got his fiancee on the bag.

He's back. He's a whole different golfing. Give him a break. Jordan Spieth fell apart more than Westwood did. And Jordan has done that the last few years, too. What's that all about, by the way? I don't know. He used to be the guy.

His soul is still at Augusta. He was really a big-time collapse. He was supposed to win. It would have been his second in a row. Yeah, he just collapsed there, and he really hasn't been the same since. If you're watching, there's a chance you'll get to see just a massive amount of liquid fall and drip off the side of my table here. We were interviewing Bob Huggins earlier today,

which you will get a chance to hear in about 14 minutes or so. I spilled an iced tea all over this thing, and it's just my hammer's dripping wet. Just soaking wet. Thank God, though. It is just soaking wet. Literally and figuratively. I got no voice.

We got a wet hammer. I mean, what a day. It would have burned through the case. I mean, the amount of bets you're hitting right now. You had to do that. Hey, I did win a lot of bets, okay? I knew that the style bender wasn't going to be able to beat the pride of Poland, the man who has the piece of rope around his wrist or whatever.

And to say that I knew that was going to happen, complete lie, obviously. There was no way I was going to stay awake until that fight. Those UFC ones are so late or whatever. You can't do it. But as soon as Ariel said he's the best athlete doing anything this weekend, I was like, all right, I'm betting against that guy for sure. You know what I mean? Turns out he goes up a weight class.

He loses. I win there. NBA, everybody knew Steph Curry was going to goddamn win that three-point shooting contest. That was at plus 110 moments before the three-point shooting contest happened last night. You have to bet Steph Curry in a situation like that because if he doesn't win that three-point shooting contest, and the conversation now around all the other basketball players is that he's the greatest shooter in the history of the game. He loses that three-point shooting contest.

That conversation stops. There's no way Steph Curry was going to lose that even if it came down on the last shot congrats Michael Conley there was zero chance Steph Curry was going to lose that that seemed like an easy bet the shambo hit because that guy cut maker Jeff I mean I was that Israel thing strictly because um Ariel said he's the best athlete of all time penguins beat the dog shit out of the Flyers. I mean, it was a great win. Illinois was Foxy's lock. Foxy's back on a good side.

I bet on basically every single sport this weekend, and I won. I'm feeling really fucking good, despite the fact that I can't speak at all. Just a sports sharp at this point. You know, there's the NFL sharps. There's the golf sharps now. Just a sharp. Well-rounded. By the way, this is what?

Second weekend I'm betting on golf, by the way. Jack of all trades. Twice. This could all turn. Well, I don't think so. I understand that this could get very, very chilly. There's a chance that my bets could get cold as Foxy normally is. Foxy's also hot.

People need to remember that. Thank you. A tide might have turned in the Foxy train that I've been riding into the pits of hell over the last couple months or weeks or whatever it's potentially getting hot but when you start betting on things you know nothing about that's when it gets interesting and that's why i did a lot of this weekend there's football on by the way fcs football is happening uh fan craze football still happening josh gordon scored a game winner this was a big sports weekend to be honest with you now it leads into an nfl week that people are going to talk about for years i've been told

dac prescott and the dallas cowboys allegedly nowhere near uh coming together for a long-term deal jerry jones told a local radio station though that dac has all the leverage yeah what does that mean though like if i'm in a negotiation with let's say connor and it's getting public or whatever i'm going to connor has all the leverage publicly i'm saying all he's doing is just painting that you know just like that information last week that he wanted right underneath whatever patrick mahomes that was jerry also pumping that out there let me go ahead and pump this out there yeah he wants fucking patrick mahomes money i don't think he's one right right go ahead and pump this out there. Yeah, he wants fucking Patrick Mahomes money. I don't think he's won, right?

Go ahead and put that out there. Then he's like, hey, listen, he has all the leverage or whatever. But he does, actually, in this particular situation. They've got a team that's completely upside down down there. Now, at the end, they won a couple games, but with a new head coach, new everything going on down there. Dak Prescott gets that gruesome injury. Now, I don't know if anybody will pay him long-term after that injury. I'm not 100% sure. Now, listen, Dak is obviously an incredible quarterback,

but coming back from an injury, although nowadays with science much easier than it was in the past, I'm not 100% sure he's going to be the same goddamn guy. And that is just, if I'm a GM, I'm like, let's wait and see if he can play football again. Dallas is going to franchise tag him, which is going to be 37 million dollars in a cap strapped year dallas cowboys much to orlovsky's point this this morning they're pretty much fucked at this point they should get this deal done two years ago yeah they've handcuffed themselves it's either now you lose dac and you're in a position where you have to hope that you find the the next guy or you're going to overpay him and give him more than what you really can afford to do.

But what about Andy Dalton, though? Well, is Dalton coming back? His head is still laying on the field in Washington. And the thing about his head laying down there, nobody picked it up. Not one line. They just fucking let that red hair with the incredible cut just fucking roll around. Someone like Alex Smith, though.

How many more wins do you think they have with Dak if they're paying 37 mil versus Alex Smith? Maybe two, three mil? If you're Alex Smith, there's no way you want to go to Dallas, right? It feels like Alex Smith is going to go to Jacksonville. Now, it just makes too much sense. There it is. Golly.

What is it? Is it the pollen? It's a mixture. The pollen definitely is playing a part here. Because I don't feel sick at all this has never happened to me just wake up and it's like a little horse or whatever i mean is it because i speak 20 hours a week at this point can't be this fucking week okay if these vocal cords can't handle this fucking schedule they need to hang it up all right we need some new ones in here which i'm assuming is possible so i don't think that's the case the pollen though is something jay So I don't think that's the case.

The pollen though is something Jay used to be the one that's allergic to everything. Okay. Jason is the one that got allergic to everything. All right. We both came out of the same area. Okay. The same parents, the same operation,

polar opposite people. He was the one that was allergic to everything. Not me. Now I'm getting older. I think it's starting to happen to me. And this is bullshit. Jay, I'm sorry you had to deal with this your entire life you know it's uh it sucks a little

bit but you get over it i don't know if i'm going to i think this is the wrong time for me to have to go through i'll get the sniffles now more than anything i get people watching at home say oh the guy sniffling he's got high energy must be a big coke head no that's not the case actually i'm just learning how to deal with these fucking allergens that I have. I mean, pollen counts through the roof, for being honest. Sounds pretty cool. What's that? Your voice.

Does it? Yeah. Maybe get me in a studio. Yeah. Here we go. There's a nice rat. I'm talking sports. Sports, of course.

I'm on a horse. I'm saying, of course. I'm on a horse. I'm saying. Of course. All right, let's get back to it. That thing's going to give out there in the middle of a really good point. And you know that's going to bury me. But that's the life you live whenever you're out here on these streets, you know, especially with allergies. Focus on the point.

Focus on the point. Yeah, you're right. You made a great point. It's not about what I'm saying. No. It's not about how it's the point. Yeah, you're right. You made a great point. It's not about what I'm saying. No. It's not about how it's coming out. It's about what I'm saying. That's right.

Maybe these people should stop judging me, by the way, for my voice. It's true. Take it easy. I thought it was 2021. What's this all about? Come on. Anyways, I forget what I was talking about exactly, but Alex Smith. Yeah, Alex Smith.

Why is it that Alex – He's going to Jacksonville. Alex Smith is going to Jacksonville. Makes sense. Why is he that Alex... He's going to Jacksonville. Alex Smith is going to Jacksonville. Makes sense. Why is he so highly sought after right now? And you're hearing about him being able to get multiple jobs, and then it's coming out that Fitz Magic is just... I mean, who played last year, looked good.

Smith obviously has the gruesome injury. Why is it that Smith is just like... He's going to get a job wherever he wants, pretty much. Has it come out and said that? People have come out and said that Alex Smith has numerous jobs. I did not see that. Well, no. Smith is just like, you know, he's going to get a job wherever he wants. Has it come out and said that? People have come out and said that Alex Smith has numerous jobs? I did not see that. Well, no, but I mean, we're talking about, you know,

like the Bears being interested and, you know, multiple teams being interested. And then now they're reporting that Fitzmagic basically has no offers and he might have to go to retirement. Now, it is interesting. Let's wrap up Alex Smith and we'll go to Fitzmagic. Alex Smith, though, has the GQ article. He's getting released from Washington by his request, allegedly,

is what everybody said. It seems like him and Washington were not that great of a relationship. I wonder if that's post-Ron Rivera coming in there. Because remember, Alex Smith and Urban Meyer were actually in a suite together while he was rehabbing from his injury in Washington. Everybody thought Urban Meyer was going to be the next head coach of the Washington football team because of his love of Alex and they were sitting together in that whole thing. Obviously, Urban ends up in

Jacksonville, but Alex Smith comes back after having a hamstring for a shin, wins a comeback player of the year, asks out of like a $14.9 million contract. So you would assume that there is other options, or maybe it's just Alex Smith doesn't want to be there anymore. He's sick of everything about that place. I'm tired of being here. I'd rather go back up somewhere and help somebody and move forward. If Alex Smith isn't a Jacksonville Jaguar,

I think it'd be more surprising at this point than anything else. Trevor Lawrence is there. Trevor's going to be your guy. Now, aside from that COVID issue this past season, Trevor Lawrence has been a rather healthy individual. He seems like his body will be one that he'll be able to play. Just coming out of surgery offseason, but missed no games because of it. So I'm not sure that Jacksonville would be hiring him to be like, hey, we'll need you to play a lot. But if Alex Smith, who's been there, done that around the NFL with everything at this point,

is there for Trevor Lawrence, that feels like a match made in heaven. Matt Hasselbeck was that for Andrew Luck. Helped out a lot. Now Hasselbeck had to come in and play, get us some wins whenever Andrew got hurt. Trevor and Andrew don't play similar styles. I think Trevor won't be as hurt as Andrew Luck, but that veteran in the quarterback room is a massive ordeal. That's why you see Fitzmagic get these deals. That's why I hope and assume Alex Smith is going to be down in Jacksonville. Urban Meyer's been talking a lot about the atmosphere in the building. We'll talk about that at some point today as well. He's not happy about the way the word elite's thrown around. What?

Listen, elite this, elite that, elite this, elite that. I've been around elite, he said. Okay, you remember Dwayne Haskins, my quarterback. Yeah, that's right. It's a fucking NFL, Urban. This isn't some FCS school, dude. Listen to him talk. I'm just like, all right, we get it, Urban.

It's the NFL, though. Now, there's shitty organizations. I like the fact that it sounds like his organization is not going to be a shitty one. But the way he speaks, as if the Urban Meyer NFL expectation is a lot higher than the rest of the NFL. It's like, all right, dude, fucking chill out. I hope he does well down there. I do hope he does well because, you know, I've enjoyed listening to Urban on TV and obviously we have mutual friends with Ohio and everything like that.

But the way he's speaking as if he's bringing a new standard to the NFL makes me think, shut the fuck up, Urban, okay? This is the men's league at this point. You need to relax. Not that he's doing that, but the fuck up, Urban. Okay, this is the men's league at this point. You need to relax. Not that he's doing that, but just the quotes that I'm reading, he's talking as if, you know, like, the NFL wasn't good enough, and now that I'm here, like, it's... Yeah, like he's going to reinvent.

Yeah, it's level. Yeah, like, edge. We're going to be like, shut the fuck up. I love Urban, too. But anyways, Alex Smith probably going to Ryan Fitzmagic. What is going on with Ryan Fitzmagic? This weekend, John Clayton, who formerly of ESPN, not 100% sure what he does now,

he's a Pittsburgh guy from Forest Hills, where my old man's from. You know, he used to have the rat tail, everybody thought. He has one of the most electric ESPN commercials of all time. Last week or so, he's been reporting a couple things. Last week, he reported J.J. Watt's final four destination did not say Arizona in that whole thing he had to come back and actually say my words are being misconstrued which probably true now he's come out and said Ryan Fitzmagic basically thinking about retiring because there's nobody interested

that's interesting to me because when we talked to him on February 2nd, just one month ago, this is what Ryan Fitzmagic had to say about his future in football. Where's your mindset at? What are you thinking right now? Well, this offseason, and we already saw it with Goff and Stafford, obviously, who knows what's going to happen with Deshaun. There's rumors everywhere in the quarterback market, but there's a lot of teams that are looking for a new quarterback or quarterback.

So for me personally, I have to take every offseason now and just reassess. And I know these last two years have really relit that fire under me, and I still want to play, and I enjoy being out there playing. One month, six days ago, happened what has changed who put out the fire is it because denver allegedly made a and then kind of backed out of it let's not give up yet just fits magic okay we need your pal after that he'd go on to talk about how his oldest is in high school now and there's six other kids so he has to figure out what he wants to do. But the thought of just one month, six days ago, when he was talking to us about a bowling situation,

him saying that he has a fire lit under him to continue to play, now he's potentially out. I hope it's because he hasn't been contacted, because free agency hasn't even started yet. No. Hasn't even started yet, Ryan. Ryan, hold on hope, because we got hope in you pal yeah we don't need him retiring no keep that fire to be watching him next year need fitzmagic still in the nfl yeah

on the patriots thank you for adding that voice well that's not that's not what we said at all what you just said was what you just know you added patriots patriots are going to get Jimmy G, allegedly. According to all reports, Jimmy G is target A for the New England Patriots. This comes after two weeks ago, the report was that the New England Patriots are in on every quarterback option. Then a week ago, the Patriots are not enamored by the free agent quarterback class. Now it's the Patriots' plan A for quarterback is Jimmy fucking Garoppolo let's get him back in the building so now you have to think okay what are the Niners gonna do then it is alleged that they've been trying to potentially move on for Jimmy G since they got Jimmy G it

feels like that's potentially how the Niners operate but if they move Jimmy G back to New England what happens with the Niners now there's another domino that potentially falls, which is what I'm saying to Ryan Fitzmagic. Don't you fucking give up just yet, pal. Need you not give up just yet. And if Jimmy G doesn't end up in New England, the perfect guy to bring in, as we are saying, Ryan Fitzmagic.

He's a closer. He's like Rivera in his prime. He can still play football. Let the guy spin it. Why didn't they ever let Rivera be an ace? Yeah, Ty. I mean, you know, the arm's just not built for it. I mean, if you know a guy's going to spark play. So I would assume that a lot of people are asking, has Fitzmagic

still got it for four quarters? Just because he had it for the fourth quarter. I'm not here to say that. Alex Smith, Ryan Fitzmagic is quarterbacks for the New England Patriots. Every other series, I'm fucking here for. Most guys have tried a lot of different ways to, you know, try to last a little bit longer when making love.

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Shout out to GetRoman.com forward slash Pat McAfee. Massacre week in the NFL has continued. Carlos Dunlap, Seattle Seahawks. How you doing? Keep it moving. He was traded from Cincy to Seattle in an interesting set of events that involved him putting his house up for sale immediately following a game

while he was still playing for the Cincinnati Bengals. One of his teammates saying, let me get that, and then him being traded a week later to Seattle. He immediately goes to Seattle, proves that he can still play at a very high level, has a great season with them in a brand-new scheme and a defense that was trying to find their way. Last week, we did a deep dive into everybody else's analysis in the salary caps,

and Carlos Dunlap was an expected cap casualty for the Seattle Seahawks. He's now a free agent in a free agency frenzy that is riddled with talent. And the more and more names are coming out. Carlos Dunlap joins that crew. $14 million saved for the Seattle Birds out there. Thank you, Carlos. Thank you. Thank you, Carlos. Thank you, Carlos.

Is Massacre Week pushed back at all? Well, obviously not since thank you, Carlos. Thank you. Thank you, Carlos. Thank you, Carlos. Is Massacre Week pushed back at all? Well, obviously not since thank you, Carlos, but because the TV deal hasn't got done and because the cap number's not set yet, they don't know who they should cut yet and stuff like that? Yeah, and that's interesting because a report has now come out by Maziano that the NFL and the NFLPA are currently conversating about what the salary cap is going to be because uh the salary cap is dependent and beholden upon the revenue that is generated and garnered by the nfl right now they're not 100 sure what the revenue is going to be because one massive piece of it the television deals are all being renegotiated right now because the NFL

is about to have a 17-game season instead of the 16-game season that they've had for the last two decades, I think, or a large part of the last two decades. So every TV deal is getting bigger. ESPN, who had the worst deal by far with the NFL before these renegotiations, allegedly added another billion onto it to get into the Super Bowl cycle. Once again, I assume to get more content, but they're up over like $2.6 billion a year, just ESPN. Then you've got to think about NBC pays about a billion dollars. CBS, Fox, Amazon's getting into the game. All these people are now entering.

I hope Google gets into the game. All these people are now entering. I hope Google gets into the game. Hey, Google, let's get into the game. That'd be very fucking cool. We got into the game. Maybe got some NFL rights. Could you imagine? Oh, oh. But anyways, they might.

You never know. Netflix could get. You have no idea. Anybody could get in right now with the most games in the history of the league, with added wild card weekend games, and now another game to this season, it feels like the amount of money that could come in that would be necessary to figure out the split, the 51-49 or 50-1⁄2 to 49-1⁄2 split

owners to players for the salary gap, I assume that's a rather large piece of information they5 to 49.5 split owners to players for the salary cap. I assume that's a rather large piece of information they have to have. I would assume that that is why nobody has a clue what the salary cap is. And if you're the Players Association, allegedly Maziano is reporting that the Players Association wants to delay this. If you're the NFL, you would want to delay it too, right? If you didn't know what the salary cap was going to be. So it sounds like maybe one piece of information was leaked here to Moz to potentially, you know,

just like every other information is put out there. But I don't fully understand how anybody could make any decision if they had no idea how much they're able to spend, especially in the world that we're in now, where the cap is the only thing that really matters. It doesn't fucking matter how good of a football player you are. if you didn't have the greatest year of your career and your cap is high you're gone right now and that's before even though you would think everybody would want to know all the information they'd want to be able to see the picture completely clearly before they start diving in that seems interesting how long do you think they'd have to push it back for because with all the stuff that's come out it seems like these tv

deals are all but done like it seemed like last week we kind of knew like where the numbers were going to be so do you think like pushing it back a week would really do that much well you're talking billions being negotiated and with that happening i mean who knows i'll assume you know every i needs crossed every t needs dotted some englishman's gonna come after me about my mathematician conversation and i'm not here for it but what i'm saying is when there's that much money those contracts have to be pretty lengthy diesel so is that what they're waiting on because to your point we did start hearing these numbers

start rolling out on what's going to be what's expected where it's at and everything where it has been which i'm not sure we've heard before that's very i feel like we're learning a lot more unless it's all bullshit which it might be by the way and it might be the nfl releasing information about what other places are paying trying to leverage maybe another place maybe we got to remember that all information could be coming from a place with a reason but the amount of money that you have to spend on your team is something i feel like the players and the team should want to know before they make pretty important decisions but the nfl is not going to wait on anybody so it's like how long can you delay well and for a guy like carlos dunlap he probably won't be signed if at all till what august like during training camp he's a

veteran there's no point to, you know, rush into camp when you have to do one of those long camps that the vets don't like. By the way, keeping the 17th game in the back pocket until the perfect time, which has been, by the way, this thing's been pushed for years now

and it was okayed in the CBA. But for a year, for the NFL to have a season where they couldn't sell tickets, really, anywhere. So there's no, you know, there's no beers. No. There's no, like, cartoon-sized beers that are $45. Right.

Take-home cup. The big one. Hey, you were there. Hey, I don't remember much of it because, actually, I got two of them. Okay. So, I mean, it's like basically a 30-pack. Then the nachos, the hot dogs, the merch sale at the stadium, by the way. I mean, it was the amount of money that was lost out upon on the NFL.

If the salary cap goes up, that means they made money this past season. Okay, that's what that means. And if the reason is strictly because they kept that 17-game negotiation, they're like, all right, now we're doing this. It's like their Uno card, right? They pulled that thing out. And they're like, yep, bingo, here we go, how you doing? And they say, yeah, we need an extra billion

from everybody, actually, because we got one more game. That's pretty, that's good business, you know? And people are going to talk about that for years from now, that a season was able to happen on schedule with some mishuffling around in some, um, you know, like a show game happening with games being moved because COVID and they

were able to make more fucking money. That is going to be talked about years. The business is impressive that they run over there. There's 31, 30 billionaires, one very rich son of a guy who worked his way up to become an owner and then all the green bay packers ty schmidt yeah me i'm in a good spot what do you want to do delay you want to delay see what you can do well you know i mean whatever is advantageous for the packers

maybe landing a guy like uh odell trading for him or you know something like that i'm gonna push for for that okay so you're talking about odell getting traded to the Green Bay Packers. Odell Beckham is allegedly in conversations. Carlos Dunlap put out a message saying he's still grateful. The Seattle Seahawks got him out of Cincinnati, which I assume at the moment is exactly what he wanted. I'm not saying anything about the relationship prior to the trade or the weeks before the trade. He says he's still grateful. Thank you, Seahawks and the 12s. How since he is officially listed now

and about to lower the price. Okay, so it is a buyer. It is a seller's market as well. He doesn't have to do that. Real estate is booming right now. The fact he's lowering the price. Let's go ahead and move on from all of this. I'm excited to see where he ends up.

With Odell Beckham, with your conversation about maybe the Packers signing Odell Beckham and all these things. And that isn't ty saying that the packers didn't have enough weapons no what ty's saying is if you look at the teams that are winning they are loaded just in case an injury comes or fatigue comes or an off day comes there's there's always reason to have you know more talent on your team and with this free agency i think there's going to be a lot of offers for one-year deals odell though i'm not sure he's going to go to the packers if he gets traded from the browns but allegedly now it is being reported by adam

schaefter who by the chef he might want on vacation for a week i'm not sure he might want on vacation to tampa for all we know adam sch Schefter comes back on get up this morning and says like hey Tom wants Odell down in Tampa basically uh Tom Brady wants Odell on the Bucs it would be challenging for the reigning champs to acquire Beckham due to his contract but they want him down there via ESPN's Adam Schefter on get up so um Tom Brady wanted Antonio Brown now Bruce Aaron said he and Jason Light had to make the call we agree that is the person that has to do it but they got Antonio Brown

Tom Brady wanted Rob Gronkowski now Bruce had to Bruce and Jason Light had to make a deal with Belichick for a fourth rounder or fifth rounder or whatever for a guy to score two touchdowns in a Super Bowl I'm sure you'll be able to draft a guy that can do that up there in New England.

They go and get him. If Tom is, if Adam Schefter is reporting it, there's a reason Adam Schefter has that information. Now Tom is potentially publicly saying to BA and everybody like, Hey, let's go ahead and get that guy up there in Cleveland. I've seen him play. I think he'll fit in just fine here. He gave me that, that goat cleat here. He gave me that goat cleat.

Remember, he gave me that goat cleat after the game. We're pals. We're friends. And if you're Odell Beckham Jr., you've got to be pretty pumped to hear this. Yeah. Now, listen, Cleveland's building something special as well. But anytime Tom Brady or another team is talking about wanting you, that ups your value immediately upon that.

Cleveland, I don't know if they're in the business to trade no dell maybe it'll save them some money i'm not sure they're in money issue right now with the way andrew berry has that thing set up but him down there in tampa would be electric you can definitely uh kiss chris godwin goodbye right if they're going to bring odell with that contract can you really have both of them? So what we heard there was Tom saying it, allegedly. We didn't hear the Tampa Buccaneers saying it. Tom, our fucking guy. We got to pay our, how are we going to pay our guy?

I want to give Odell a ring, okay? I already got Chris one. That's what Tom said. OBJ one, okay? You know what I do? I'm like, consider me Santa Claus. All right, I gift these rings out. I gave Chris one.

Congrats, Chris. Go get your money. Odell, this guy. This guy, I gift these rings out. I gave Chris one. Congrats, Chris. Go get your money. Odell, this guy. This guy misunderstood. He's so good. He got hurt, and they got better somehow. The Browns, he got hurt, and they figured out their offense. They want to move on.

Come on, bring them down here. He's like, I'm supposed to take care of your guys, though. That is an interesting situation if you're building a ring-chasing team is you're supposed to be known as a culture that takes care of your guys. Like, hey, if you play well here, you're going to get paid. And if you do your thing here, you're going to be paid. That is a narrative that a lot of people would like to hear from a franchise if they're looking to go play there.

But in this particular case, if they can bring in Adrian Peterson and they can bring in Antonio Brown, Rob Gronk, and they can bring in these guys that they've been able to do, it's going to be tough to figure out how you pay your own guys while giving these very minimal deals to everybody else that everybody's just going to accept because you're probably going to win a ring. Sometimes to take care of your own guys, you've got to let your own guys go. Hey, Lenny, go get paid.

Sometimes to go forward, you've got to go backwards. Let's get to the phones. Let's go to Mike in Michigan. What's going on, Mike? Hey, how's it going? Not too shabby. Is it 70 in Michigan and beautiful? It is 70 in Indiana right now. Yeah, it's about

65 probably. On that lake? Oh, yeah. So I wanted to call and talk about Mr. March. You got to live on the lake. Tom Izzo. What do you want to talk about with Tom Izzo, Mike?

Guy's got to be the best coach in the country. We got eight Final Fours in 22 years. Name a better coach, Pat. Name one. Thank you, Mike. To be honest, Bob Huggins. One comes to mind. Yeah.

If I had to, I would say Bob Huggins. One comes to mind. Yeah. Bob. If I had to, I would say Bob Huggins. Hey, I'd put them at very similar coaches. And by the way, the little shit show you guys started this season with, Bob ain't never doing that. No. Bob would be dead on the court before his team would be that terrible. It's not where you start.

All right. Everyone knows it's where you finish. March is where it matters. And now we're playing our best ball. They are. By the way, three top five dubs in the last week or something. Damn. But maybe those top five teams are misranked.

Still a team Foxy roots for, too, so they have no chance. Michigan State? Oh, come on. They beat Michigan the other day. Oh, yeah? Yesterday. Yeah, Michigan had the title locked up. They didn't care.

True. Take day off. We already heard about the season, How tiring it is for these boys. It's Michigan State. They stink. We can give them a win. Let them in the tourney, actually. We hope they get in the tourney. I'll see them again. Yeah, and we would like to see this. Let's go ahead and extend. Maybe they extend an olive branch here. We'll let you in,

but that's in hopes of playing you first round. You know what I mean? Yeah, I mean, Michigan State would not do that to Michigan. It's a real rivalry. We would just smash them in the mouth, not let them in the tournament, have fun in the NIT. Now, you guys couldn't do that is what we're saying, though. Yeah, not this year.

Well, I thought he was the best coach of all time. He is, in March. When he has talent. Oh. I will say Tom Izzo, by the way, and it's going to ruffle some feathers. Better coach than Coach K. Whoa. Amen. and it's going to ruffle some feathers. Better coach than Coach K. Whoa.

Amen. Can you imagine if Tom Izzo had Zion and the boys he had a couple years ago? Tom Izzo beat Zion and the boys. Imagine Bob Huggins with Zion and the boys at West Virginia. Now, I will say Michigan State is supposed to have the best recruit since Kevin Durant next year. So we'll actually see how that goes. Where is he from? He's from Michigan. I think Plymouth or Ypsilanti.

So what, all his family and friends just told him if he left Michigan to go play somewhere that mattered, like they would kill him? Why is he going to Michigan State, this kid? I'll be shocked if he actually plays a game in a Michigan State uniform. I'm sure he'll take one of those alternate options and get paid. He's a thousand percent going to flip his commitment to Michigan. No question. No, he's not going to do that. No question.

John Howard's going to give him a call and be like, hey, I don't know if you watched last year. Michigan State fucking stinks. We're good. I got a nice little spot for you. What if he goes to the overtime $100,000 a year thing? See, I think he's going to do something like that. They say he could play in the NBA right now. Is that happening, by the way? Is that overtime $100,000 thing happening? And who's giving them the money for that?

Allegedly, overtime, which is a social media app, I think, for covering high school sports. I follow. I see a lot of great highlights on there. I get a chance to... Actually, I think my high school was featured on there this year. On the wrong side, though.

That kid had that. He ran through 45 people. You remember? Oh, yeah. On that one. That one. Our team won that game, though. Oh, yeah.

But the highlights will never tell that story, which is kind of a problem with this generation, man. Yes. I'm not talking about it. It's real, though. Like, Omar does a great job with SportsCenter, okay?

But he'll put up some sick pass oop or something that happens, like, yo, feeling it or whatever. That team loses by 40, and everybody's like, yeah, yeah, this is all. I don't know. There's just – because it is an incredible play, all right? But do we care even that the team you know that's the bigger question got their ass beat you know hey well it's not also their fault that omar posted either true we'll talk about that overtime though is allegedly launching a high school professional basketball

league where they're going to pay a hundred thousand dollars to every single player and then if you end up not making it into the NBA or whatever, you'll get $100,000 to go to college. So it seems like they're trying to battle both things. Like, hey, if you want to make it to the NBA, here you go. Here's $100,000. I assume they're open. You're allowed to get your own sponsorships, I'd assume, on social media.

And you're allowed to digital market, probably have your own YouTube, everything like that. So it feels like that is gonna cuck the living shit out of ncaa college basketball especially if they get you know five six guys each year to go in there that are the guys and maybe a shoe company will come in immediately after and say hey here's a deal worth uh 10 million dollars so then you're making 10 million 100 000 just from those two things there i think that's going to become a lot more appealing for a lot of players. And in basketball, how many teams they have to have? Five, six? You put the good ones, all the great guys at the top of that thing, and then you just kind of have the

team under there. It feels like that is a significant shift in power of the whole college basketball thing. I'll be excited to find out what Duke does or Calipari does or, you know, Huggins or any of these college coaches do to stop that or the universities to stop that. I don't know how you're going to stop players from making that type of money with the freedom without having to fake go to class or anything. I don't know. That sounds like that's going to be a successful operation. And with social media in the world being much smaller now, it's much more likely this type of thing. This has always been talked about. But with social media kind of bringing everybody together, whether it's messaging, DMs, numbers, hangouts, workouts, everything you see because of social

media, I think it's much more likely it can happen. I mean, it'd be interesting to watch what would happen with football then. Then something would happen with football as well. It's potentially a pretty pivotal moment here in sports history, I think. So I was reading into it. They're going to try to have 30 kids for the first season. They're all going to be in one city. They're going to provide teachers and stuff like that. But Kevin Durant is part of the finance. Carmelo Anthony is part of the finance. David Stern before he passed away.

So probably four teams, right? Yeah. That's what it sounds like. Seven or eight on each. Those are going to get to hard. Yeah. Are they going to be running that Bleacher Report open run court? Yeah, should be.

But the G League is also offering $500,000 contracts too too and a lot of kids have had success from this past year going straight to the g league and then entering the draft the year after so so overtime is going to be the brand building kids okay and g league probably the dudes yeah yeah because you get the nba coach in there too i mean i don't know and by the way i've not done research this is just coming off the information you literally just told me right now. If G League, which is directly associated with the NBA, is paying more, I would assume that's going to be where the dudes go. Now, if you're a good basketball player with a good brand,

but maybe not NBA guy, probably go to overtime, right? Help build your own brand and you get a $100,000 scholarship basically? I mean, there's a built-in safety net with that so like all those kids who go to the g league and eventually don't make it it's not like the g league's paying them a full college scholarship on the back end like all these kids why wouldn't you do it if you're going to get paid and then if you don't make it it's like okay well we'll still pay for you to go to college yeah now you could have these kids put away 30% of their $500,000 salary at the G League to pocket it to pay for school later. That's a good point.

And I assume that the people that expect that grew up in an accountant's house. Yeah. I have no idea. Silver spoon in their mouth. I'd assume that's the case. But it would be a smart move. Yeah, yes, it would. I mean, you couldn't have told me that.

I was on scholarship and got loans out to have a good time. You know what I mean? Why not? That's interesting. That overtime thing is interesting to watch, especially with the G League potentially popping off. Calipari, Coach K, Huggs, all the OGs, Izzo kind of getting older. Maybe they go coach.

If you're overtime, are you trying to get the good coaches into your thing now? Do you think it's location-based? Since the kids are in high school, it'd have to be like they'd all have to be from the same region? Or do you think they'll actually go to like a... This is after high school, right? No, this is 16 to 18-year-olds. Oh, this is

in high school? For the overtime year. Yeah. Oh, shit. I thought this was afterwards. That is awesome. So, oh, my God. Now that has a much larger. They said they're going to have one host city.

So, okay. So, you probably go like a camp. You probably just go for like a month. You'll bubble. I thought it was after. I didn't know they were doing this to high schoolers. 16 to 18-year-olds. That's why.

Oh, my God. Good for the high schoolers. Yeah to 18-year-olds. That's why. Oh, my God. Good for the high schoolers. Yeah. If you can dunk and get a couple good highlights, got a good brand, play pretty good, go get 100,000. Oh, walking around those high school halls after getting paid $100,000 can tell me nothing. I'd assume at this point those kids are already like that,

though, if their highlight makes it on House of Highlights or Overtime or anything like that, I assume that's a pretty big deal. A lot of those kids in that Overtime post, they already got like 500,000 to a million followers on IG and Twitter. So it's like they're already massive names. Throw them a bone with 100 grand? That's genius.

And by the way, what is – okay, I assume going to one of these institutions that is, you know, very, very knowledgeable and very historic. I'm sure that those universities will be able, because these kids, if they play that, they're foregoing their NCAA rights. So if these kids aren't to make it or whatever, I'm sure the universities would be able to teach them how to make more money than they're already making on social media, right? Because that's what college is supposed to be. Yeah. You go to college to learn your profession. Of course. I'm assuming these kids that have 500 to a million followers have already made $100,000

for a couple of years. They've already been able to do branding deals. I'm sure fucking Duke University would know how to teach them how to make more money in their field than what they'd be able to experience just doing themselves, right? Four years at Duke, you can probably quadruple. Oh, yeah, with your knowledge of social media? Exactly. Oh, yeah.

They'll teach you everything. The modern-day gold rush, the internet? Nothing says social media like an 80-year-old person telling you how to run it. Oh, what about a 69-year-old? Well, that might change a little. That's a little different. What do you got, Diggs? This is from an article about the league.

It says, educational offerings will place a special emphasis on developing the life skills necessary to manage and sustain a successful pro sports career. Genius. Focused on financial literacy, media training, and social justice advocacy. So much better. I mean, just so much better than college already. Just that aspect is so much better than college. Every kid's going to want to do this. Why wouldn't you?

Only 30 kids, though. True. Knock them bees, you're not just going to fall into this thing. You're going to have to work for it. But if I get a chance to have a child in little Doobie McAfee, who's got some handles in seventh and eighth grade here we go dupes ninth grade i'm letting him know like hey pal you better go put up some fucking shots yeah you got a chance to become a pro in like a year and a half 100k out there waiting for you you

have to be that tall cuz in this one you're gonna be able to move still you do your thing here doobie all right so fucking don't come back inside until you figure out how to shoot from everywhere on the court you can even get a little caught sleep out there yeah you got a year and a half you're about Fucking don't come back inside until you figure out how to shoot from everywhere on the court. You can even get a little caught sleep out there. You got a year and a half. You're about to be a pro, Doobie. Get it together, pal. That's real, by the way.

Those kids become professional athletes at the age of 16. That's a hell of a goal setter. That's a hell of a goal. Now, there's only 30 of them. That's going to be tough. But, Doobie, get your fucking ass out there and find that jump shot. Especially that kid from Michigan State. But, Doobie, get your fucking ass out there and find that jump shot.

Especially that kid from Michigan State. That was the dude who Terrence Ross said could make a basket in the NBA if he were to just jump in right away. Oh, yeah, he said no. Oh, wait. Then he said that guy. It is interesting because back in the day, Kobe, Garnett, who was that dude they made an entire documentary about out of New York? Sebastian Telfair.

Telfair, the lefty. There was guys that were going. LeBron, obviously. Kendrick Perkins. Yeah, Perkins. Big Perkins. My new favorite TV person. Cary Ong.

Cary Ong. Dwight Howard. Yeah, but I feel like all those guys are massive. Now, Zion probably physically could have made it up there, right? Yeah. Zion could have done it. Yeah, for sure. Now, he missed four dunks last night, his All-Star debut,

and I happen to bet the over 20 and a half points in that whole thing. But I think physically, that's the big thing is like physically, can you make it? I remember coming out of high school, I was kicking like 70-yard field goals, you know? I was like, should I fucking go pro now? Yeah. I'm kicking it over Jeff Reed's head at this camp.

This guy's making how much money? I just go pro. There's no, obviously was available i would have tried never would have made it i would have missed probably five straight kicks in training camp been cut wouldn't have been able to get into college life would have been over so i understand that there's a reason why some of these rules are in there you know kind of save you from you but there should be exceptions to that high school basketball thing because it's like i i almost thought whenever the nba stopped it i'm like oh they must be making a deal with the ncaa like they must be helping the ncaa oh we realized you guys became irrelevant as a

motherfucker because none of the good players were playing there nobody's really paying attention so we'll do this one year deal where they'll act like they're going to school for like what six seven months and then you guys get a good march madness and then you know we get to have the whole thing i think there should be like a uh like hey this guy yeah let's not jeopardize this guy's entire career down here with maybe a blown out shoe you know because you guys got going on down there let's just get this guy right up here that seems like that's probably what's going to be happening yeah to that point for this league it's going to be happening. Yeah, to that point for this league, it's going to be big if the NBA lowers from 19 to 18 for their minimum age because what are these guys going to do after 18? Is the overtime league going to let them play until they're 19

and then go to the NBA draft? Or how's that? Well, then there's the G League. That's right. Overseas. Go play in Europe. Estonia, Lithuania. Yep.

Australia. Australia. Spain. Hey, Ozzy rules football is back, byuania. Yep. Australia. Australia. Spain. Hey, Ozzy Rolls football is back, by the way. Yeah. Thank God. Hey, I guess Mason is starting out very hot. Had three the other day.

Did he? Had three goals or whatever. Okay. Much better start than last year. Last year he was a little bit injured. People forget. And people probably don't even know what we're talking about. Ozzy Rolls football, listen, impossible to watch.

Impossible. It's at like 3 a listen, impossible to watch. Impossible. It's at like 3 a.m., 4 a.m. our time because the world, although potentially flat in some people's eyes, the same time is very different on the other side of the flatness, if that is the case. It is very difficult to watch Osiris football live, but the highlights are fantastic. I got into it during the sports world stoppage that happened,

you know, because Uncle COVID did his thing. Man, that was back whenever, like, they were fishing net people on their heads. Oh, yeah. That was back when that was happening. We were talking about, I think it was like almost a year ago today. You remember the mass hysteria? We were watching the college basketball,

the conference tournaments. Utah Jazz. Yes, the Utah Jazz. And it was just literally the end of the world. Attention, we need everybody in this building to evacuate. The game will be postponed. What? Do not panic.

Everybody needs to leave. Do not panic. look at each other touch each other we don't know anything that's going to happen actually just fucking get out of here do not panic and then everybody screaming out of there it was march 11th yeah jeez wheeze dude mad times now you know there's a couple places that are like, bring them out, bring them out, bring them out. It's hard to yell when you're locked in your house. Get them out of here. Connor said we wouldn't have fans for four to five years. We're going to have fans in the stands next season. There's fans in the stands already, right?

Didn't I see something that had fans in the stands? Oh, yeah. I mean, a lot of things have fans. I'm talking'm talking about full stadium oh you're talking about everybody back let's go jam pack this thing yeah then you got to worry about the reaction to people that don't want to be back in the public by the way i when i was down in florida and i walked into like a restaurant that had a bunch of people i did and i'm i'm pretty much a uh hey act as if you know if you're in a place like just be you're supposed to be here type thing I did have some thoughts I'm like alright

so what am I supposed to am I not supposed to stand near people or we what am I supposed to mask on okay that guy doesn't have a mask on like so that guy what do we how do we do I just go am I just gonna get it then like what happens like there is a lot of questions as we roll back in there.

And I think the way we're all just going to have to handle it is like teach our own. Yeah. Do what's comfortable. Exactly. But there's going to be a lot of people that want to get their ass back in that dancing dance floor. Yeah.

It's tough to walk into a place and see a guy without a mask on and be like, Oh, so we're doing this and everyone's taking them off. You know, be as is you see a guy without a mask no not be as act as if act be as if you do that though act as if all right for instance if you're walking onto a crowd or onto a stage in front of a crowd of 2800 people who are expecting you to be a stand-up comedian like yo, yo, just act as if.

Okay? If you're walking into an NFL game and you've never done two of the things you're supposed to do before, like holding and punting in the cell, yeah, just act as if. You know? If you're a professional wrestling, you know what I mean? And you happen to be in a cage, okay, let's act as if. In this particular case, don't act as if just yet. Be as if. Be as if. Don't be as if in this particular case don't act as if just yet be as if don't be as if

be as if later if they got to figure it out because you are in a area where you know i already got fucking paul and jack knifes god damn vocal cords i don't need uncle covid coming through your mustache to me because you're being as if we got to pivot to college basketball uh ladies and gentlemen joining us now is a man who is going into maybe yeah going into the tournament with maybe his best team he's ever had now i don't want to knock uh deshaun butler and all those guys i i'm a big fan of flowers that whole crew okay but i'm just saying this guy is 899 wins as a college basketball coach, and he might have his best team he's ever had right now, talent-wise. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now, Bob Huggins.

Coach, how you doing? I'm good. How you doing? God damn, you look good. You know that? Yeah. You like the hair? Hey, people were talking about that during the game, you know, because your hair was slick straight back, and it was like, all right, here we go. How far are we going?

How long are you growing that thing out? I don't know. I was going to cut it, and then a couple of players said, man, you can't cut it now. Got to ride it out. How do you feel? Hey, here we go. We're in March. Sorry about the voice, by the way.

I woke up, lost the voice. I feel like a godfather when I'm speaking to you right now. Probably after some of your nights that happens. Amen. You probably know what I'm referring to. Coach, it's March. You got a team this year. Hey, you got a team that not that you don't always okay but this team feels different doesn't it a little bit i feel like you have a lot more

individual talent on the field or on the floor you play in a little different style this year how do you feel going into the the big 12 turning into the big dance how do you feel about what you got going on no we can score i don't think there's any doubt about that. We can score the ball. We just, we've got to guard somebody. We haven't guarded anybody. You know, it's kind of like let them score so we can get the ball back.

You know, we can't do that. You can't win like that. You can't win consistently like that. So we got to fix that. I was there whenever you spoke at the football, I think it was an awards banquet. It might have been the first year you were there or something. I don't recall. But a couple of the players were there, and your first thing you said was,

this guy's a good player, doesn't know how to get into a defensive position. No, we'll work on that. And then this guy, he's here, doesn't have a clue how to play defense. We'll work on that. And then obviously press virginia thing happened where it took the world by storm this year you're not doing that um why did you make the change out of that because that kind of captivated everybody who's like this west virginia team full court press full time why'd you do that just because the team just because of a change up why did you decide to change the way your team looks on the defensive side?

I think personnel had a lot to do with it. When we lost Dexter Miles and Javon Carter, the whole key to that was ball pressure, and those two guys were terrific at ball pressure. Tariq Phillip was terrific. So that was personnel driven. And we got guys who could do different things. So we've done different things.

I'd like to, I would have liked to, you know, sometime in my career, been at a place where I could select, you know what I mean? Like, you know, Duke selects or did select. Carolina, the Blue Bloods, you know, they select who they want. You know, I'm one of those guys who, you know, Dax's high school coach played here and called me and said, Hey, I got a guy you probably ought to look at. We got him that way.

J.C.'s AAU coach said, Huggs, you got to go watch this guy. And I said, when does he play? He said, 8 o'clock. I said, does he play again? No, 8 o'clock's it. So I got up, got a coffee. I'm sitting there watching a guy press full court at 8 o'clock in the morning. He's a one-man press. And so I called his AU guy, Dickie Simpkins.

You probably know Dickie. I said, we'll take him. Coach, I think that's why people love you, you though because you've been in the game so long 899 wins we're gonna get that 900th very soon okay we delayed a little bit but we're gonna get that 900th one soon but from your time at cincinnati and your trips around and now at west virginia the fact that you don't act or have the teams that are just selected, I think is why all of us love you so much because of, you know, the way it feels. You're maybe the most relatable coach in basketball that the world has ever seen.

You know, with the way you dress now, the hair is looking fantastic. Your teams are blue collar teams. I think back to that final four squad that you had with Deshaun and then when he got hurt and everything like that, it was just, it's been awesome watching the Huggy Bears ride at West Virginia. I'd assume you wouldn't want any differently, though. I'd assume you wouldn't love to be the guy who just can go and select anybody, or am I completely wrong in saying that? I'd like to try it once.

Just to see how it feels, you know. I wouldn't mind trying it. You know, I don't know. It's kind of like, I mean, I am who I am, you know, I wouldn't mind trying it. You know, I don't know. It's kind of like, I mean, I am who I am, you know, and I don't pretend to be anybody else. And I started wearing a pullover at Cincinnati when I had a suit on. I was soaked all the way through after the first half. And I'm going to the locker room, and my AD at the time said, you know,

I don't know why you coaches wear a suit. You know, you should just go in there and get a pullover. So I went in and got a pullover, put it on Coach's second half of the pullover and have not worn a suit since. Of course, then he's one of he's he's he was the guy behind firing me, too. and that was one of that was that was one of the one of the complaints about me was like i didn't wear a suit and he's the one told me to put the he must have been planning it for a long time that son of a bitch coming out hey why don't you not wear a suit huh yeah why don't you go ahead and just put on like a t-shirt or something and then yeah so we can fire your ass what has it been like uh obviously you've been in west virginia for a long time now but going back to west virginia i remember

whenever you got back it was a big deal because you know homegrown guy here we go uh watching west virginia kind of transform into what it has become both sports wise with the move to the Big 12 and everything like that. How do you feel about choosing West Virginia? Because I assume there's a lot of other places that wanted Bob Huggins after you left Cincinnati. And how do you feel about where West Virginia basketball and where West Virginia athletics are going in general? Well, I think, you know, certainly West Virginia basketball.

I mean, you know, Pat, what's great is the people in this state. I mean, the people in this state are unbelievable. You know, I came back here and the Coliseum had not changed since I left. And, you know, when I was here, we'd go over there at night and you couldn't even get a basket to shoot on. You know, you had to get in a game with – because that was was the rec center you know now we've built beautiful rec center so you know you don't have you don't have that going on in the coliseum but you do have women's basketball you got volleyball you got gymnastics you got wrestling the the coliseum uh holds everything and you know it's

i'm down there you know waiting for women's volleyball to get off so we can practice. And a lot of times they got games and stuff. We're going over to the rec center, which I guess I found out later supposedly we weren't supposed to do that. I mean, you got to find a goal somewhere, you know. So, yes. So, you know, to make a long long story short so I go around and everybody tells me you can't do it you can't do it there's no way you'll be able to raise the money to do it to build a practice facility and we build a practice facility and it's the best practice

facility in America and you know every time something comes up that we need then you know we we get the money from the people in the state of West Virginia to do it. So, you know, I came to the right place. I'm around the right people. You know, I was born here. I was born in Vincent Pilati Hospital. Vincent Pilati is now, I mean, it's been a lot of things, but I think it's an old folks home now and and you know great story that i i i was born there and then when after i i graduated from here i stayed around i was working on on my master's degree and and i'm getting ready to go to the to the philadelphia 76ers camp so i i figure i'll get a uh 10 speed ride a bike up and down the hills you know that'll really help help get

my legs a little stronger and get me in shape. And so I'm coming down the hill, a lady turns into me. I go through the windshield, tear my knee up, scar my shoulder all up and my arm and all that. And they came out in a wheelchair and just wheeled me right into Vincent Palladio. So I'm thinking, and I'm, you know, I'm in there laying, I'm bleeding and, you know, and everything. And I'm, I'm watching my knee swell.

And I'm, I'm going like, damn, I was born here. I'm going to die here. Well, you might, by the way, in the end, if it's an old folks home, now people are talking about, you know what I mean? People are talking about you and now 67s never looks so damn good i will let it be known especially for somebody that has lived uh but now that we're about to be at 900 wins this team could go on a run especially with your coaching in march and there's been conversations every game i've watched you hear a commentator go like you know bob might win a national championship and retire or whatever it feels like you're a lifer in basketball am I wrong in reading that this is our first real it feels like you're a lifer in this thing and uh as a

West Virginia basketball fan I hope that is the case going forward for at least another 30 years or so I don't know if I'm a lifer you You know, I think my dad quit too soon. You know, he's a Hall of Fame coach in Ohio. And I kind of – but, you know, he had something else. He had a camp that, I mean, he wants to say he built – he really had – he never pounded a nail that we built. And now my brother has it. And, you know, I don't know. i don't know what else i would do i mean andy kennedy wants wants wants to do a i guess a podcast now right he wants to do something with he and i and probably frank martin and and just you know make fun of each other all

day i think i'd get bored with that no i, I don't think you would, by the way, from what I've been told, I don't think you would get bored with making fun of people all day, but watching you coach, it seems like it's just so much fun. Now I do believe you have tampered down a little bit though. Have you turned it down a little bit the last couple of years? Cause a couple of years ago you had a heart attack on the court. And I think, uh, allegedly I'm not, I'm not a doctor, but as you were having the heart attack, maybe my favorite story in the history of sports is you look at the guy and say, you did this to my guy.

Yeah, I did. I said that to the official, and he did do it to me. You know what? I mean, there's nothing better than the story when I had the heart attack I was going from the hotel over to the airport flying back to Cincinnati

I'm on the sidewalk and I go down and when I wake up everybody's around me you know they're pretty attentive. Scoop me up and put me in the ambulance. I'm going in the ambulance. And, you know, I'm in and out of consciousness.

I'm probably out more than I was in. And I kind of come to. And I said to the guy, I said, what's going on? He said, Coach, don't worry. He said, I'm John Calipari's cousin. And I can't let you die till he beats you at least once well you survived thank god um have you changed the way you do anything over the past couple years here it seems like you're much more relaxed on the sideline is that am i wrong in

reading that or practice is still uh pretty are you still get after it or what yeah I don't I mean I'm not what I what like I was but I probably needed to tone down a little bit from from what I was has it changed have you realized like a societal change almost with the the younger age players or do you think it's is that kind of blown out of proportion when people say you can't coach like you used to? You can't coach like you used to. Okay. How come?

I mean, I've, I've done it for a long, long time. You can't do the things that, that you used to do. You know, and Pat, I've been blessed, you know, I mean, we, we go get a guy who nobody else recruits. Well, it came down to us, I think in New Mexico state. And uh and i said i said nick you like grass and he said what do you mean i said well you're from kenosha wisconsin do you like grass and he said what do you mean coach i said oh i mean like a yard you know with grass he said yeah why i said well they don't have that in new mexico it's turf. It's all fake grass.

But, I mean, really, we got him because we played DePaul and Marquette, and he's from Kenosha. The team, whenever you get a team into the tourney, as somebody who's a West Virginia guy, it is always, it's like, hey, this year we have Huggins. Who knows what the team's like? Okay, maybe the team's good enough, maybe not. We have Huggy Bear.

There is a chance. I honestly believe that. I'm not saying this strictly because you're here. I've said this numerous times before. It's like, hey, when Huggy gets an attorney, anything can happen. It's real. What is it about the tournament that makes you succeed? Is it your coaching style?

Is it the way your teams are built? Why do you have success in a tournament where a lot of teams, a lot of coaches kind of can't find shit whenever they get into the big moment? Well, I've been blessed with having pretty good players. I mean, you know, you can't win without good players. You can't win at that level without good players. And guys who are confident. I watched us beat Kentucky in the Elite Eight,

and I'm watching the game, and I keep running it back. I know Deshaun Butler said something. I couldn't make out what he said. So I asked him. I said, hey, Dave, what did you say? He said, nothing, coach. I said, no, man, tell me what he said so you know so i asked him i said hey dave what did you say said nothing coach it wasn't i said no man tell me what you said he said i said to the guy i own college basketball and and you know he did he did until he until he tore his knee up i mean he was he was phenomenal and um you you phenomenal. You can't win without

having good players. I mean, you get to that level. I think they had what, seven or eight first-round picks? Heating the whole first-round picks at Kentucky, Kentucky, Kentucky, Kentucky, Kentucky. And our guys were able to do enough to beat them.

We're talking to Coach Huggins. Obviously, West Virginia, 899 wins. Eli, are you already in the Hall of Fame? I assume you're already in the Hall of Fame. You're in the Hall of Fame already? Which one? I'm not in the National Basketball Hall of Fame. I'm not in the big one.

Which one are you in? I'm in about probably 15 other ones. But not that one. Hey, well, fuck that one. That'll come at some point. Connor, what do you have? Yeah, Coach, with March Madness being canceled last year, is there more of a buzz around the tournament this year?

And also, when the Mountaineers go on to win the whole damn thing, are you going to ask for two trophies since no one got last year's? Smart. Carry over. Well, you know, I'd settle for one. You know, we said this when we first got here. You know, what I would love to do, and I think this would be the greatest thing that could ever happen to me, is win the national championship,

but take the trophy, get a bus, get Tony Creed to set up on the bus and drive around the state and say, hey, you know, we're 15 minutes out of Jane Liu. Anybody who wants to touch the trophy, meet us at the hot dog stand in Jane Liu, you know, and take it around and let people touch it, you know. Just go from town to town and in a bus you know and and just take the trophy and let people let people experience it and touch it and feel it i mean i think that'd be the greatest thing that that could ever happen if they give you two trophies you could do that quicker but one would be enough whenever we played in the sugar bowl my freshman year

it was shortly after a coal disaster that happened down coal mining disaster happened in the Sugar Bowl my freshman year. It was shortly after a coal disaster that happened down, coal mining disaster happened in the southern part of the state. And I remember Rich Rodriguez at the time talking about like how much this means to the state. Like, hey, what you're doing right now, you have no idea about. You being from the state of West Virginia is a very passionate one, no professional teams. I mean, they live and die with the Mountaineers. Now, Marshall exists. I get that. But they live and die with the Mountaineers.

If you were to win a natty and take that thing down to Jane Liu, I couldn't even fathom how electric that would be. Ty, what do you have? Coach, you mentioned wanting to be able to handpick your own players once. How has recruiting changed since you started? Like, are you on TikTok and, TikTok and Twitter a lot more now because that's so popular with the kids? Has COVID impacted how you have to recruit? Well, the COVID thing has pretty much blown up our country. I mean, yeah, absolutely. We can't go out and see kids anymore. They can't come and see

campus, which I think is terrible. Who wants to go to a school that you've never been to? But they're not allowed to go to any of them. So now we're into Zoom meetings and all that kind of stuff. That's way above my pay grade. I'm not into that kind of stuff. I don't really enjoy doing it. I have to do it, I guess, to a degree.

Are you on TikTok dancing? No, don't tell me you're dancing. No, no, no. Thank God. I would have to cancel it. I don't know what TikTok is, to be honest with you they're dancing i don't know they're dancing on there um code they're they're doing a lot of this on there i mean dabbo sweeney is putting out videos of him dancing on there i mean it is i think dabbo calls plays while he All right, let's talk about this team that you have.

You got a white that can shoot. McNeil, hey, when he gets hot, I heard the commentators talking about how you talked to him and you said, hey, I think I'm the easiest coach to play for. You shoot. If you make it, shoot more. If not, probably not going to be on the quarter line. McNeil, he seems to light it up. McBride, he's an absolute stud.

Everybody talks about how he was a football quarterback and everything. Culver underneath. We got a team here, Huggs. Let's go win this fucking thing, huh? Listen, I'm all for it. I'm all for it. We were awful on Saturday. There's no other way to put it.

And so I gave them two days off. We're going to look at some film today. We're going to practice tomorrow. And hopefully we're going to go out and play with all the energy that we saved up from not playing on Saturday. You got them again, by the way. 10.30 a.m. Central Time, I believe, on Thursday or whatever. You guys went on that race.

The Big 12 with the travel, it obviously didn't affect you. You guys had like seven road Big 12 wins in a row or whatever you guys went on that right is the Big 12 with the travel it obviously didn't affect you guys had like seven road Big 12 wins in a row or whatever I mean it was it was massive Baylor ducked you guys there early and then obviously the game came back overtime in Morgantown but has the travel been uh trouble at all because I mean it's a lot of traveling for a team at West Virginia to do Big 12 this is kind of of something, I guess, years ago. But does that affect the team at all, especially in basketball, with the amount of back-to-backs and everything like that? Absolutely it does.

I think so. You know, we're, what, four, four-and-a-half hours by plane from, I mean, a big jet. We fly in a very nice plane. But it's four-and-a- half hours to Lubbock and back, or just to Lubbock, and then coming back, it's a little bit faster because I guess you get up in the airstream or whatever. But, no, it's rough, man. We get back 5, 36 o'clock in the morning, and then, you know, guys got study hall.

They got class. They got all those things. And by the time they come over to the practice facility for practice or film or whatever it is they're dead and i understand i mean it's i've had virtually every coach in the big 12 say to me i don't know how you do it you know just flying to morgantown one time they think it's really rough and that's a two-hour flight as well for you know for texas texas tech it's a four hour flight or four and a half hours whatever but they do it once you know we do it we do it nine times and and yeah it does it takes a lot out of you i mean it's i mean i understand

takes a lot out of me i'm old but i mean these young guys man it's it's it's rough and then what you're supposed to expect them to come in there and then you're going to play in two days. So one day is a wash, you know, you may try to look at some film, throw things at them when they go to sleep in the film room or something. But no, I mean, it's, it's hard, man. It is really, really hard. And, and I don't think, I don't think people get it. I don't, I don't think anybody really in our administration gets it

because they don't do it. You can say, oh, well, that's not all that bad. Okay, do it. Then you do it. You do what we do and then tell me it's not so bad. Well, I want to let you know, looking from the outside in, I appreciate the effort. I think that grit, by the way, that the boys have logged mile high in the sky

is going to pay off. Coach, I appreciate everything you've done for West Virginia. It's an honor to watch your teams play. Well, you know, Pat, I love it, man. I wouldn't want to be anywhere else. The greatest people in the world, you know, they were chomping at the bit to get in there and see us play. And that's what bothers me.

When we lose, I feel really, really bad. But I feel really bad because I feel like we let the people in the state down. And, you know, you were talking about the mine disaster. I was there. I went down. And it was as hard a thing emotionally for me as I think I've ever experienced. as hard a thing emotionally for me as I think I've ever experienced. I,

Joe Manchin was a governor then, and, you know, Joe's really good. I mean, he can really, really talk. And so he goes up there to talk, and there isn't anybody paying attention. They all got their heads down. People are crying. I mean, they're, understandably so. you know, their, their husbands, their sons are trapped in a mine. Don't know whether they're dead or alive. And then actually when we went in, they had just pretty much came in and told them all that there's probably no hope that anybody's

going to come out of there alive. And Joe hands the mic to me and says, talk to him. What am I going to say? You know, I mean, it's the toughest thing I've ever experienced, looking at those people. And so I brought like 200 T-shirts. And I had the guy who was the student body president with me. I said, go get them T-shirts, man, quick. And so I'm kind of stuttering around. And he comes in with T-shirts and i said listen anybody wants a t-shirt come up and get a t-shirt you want me to sign it i'd be more than happy to

sign it for you the first lady come comes up has two sons and a husband trapped in the mind and she said coach is there any way is there any way I could get four of these? Because I want to give them to my husband and my sons when they come out. And, man, I start to cry, you know, and I was there. And, you know, you being here, I know that you understand to a degree, but what those people do on a day-to-day basis is unbelievable. They risk their life every day. Every day they go to work, and we can't say that.

Maybe the way you drive, that makes sense. No, but whenever you put a product out on the floor, I think you're doing everybody a hell of a justice, man. The effort is always high. I mean, granted, you're a little upset about the defense, I think you're doing everybody hell of a justice, man. The effort is always high. I mean, granted, you're a little upset about the defense, I guess, for some people, but the effort's always high. There's always a team that we always think we're going to have a win. Most of the time we do. Cannot wait to see you get your 900th win.

And let's go do this thing in the dance, shall we? I appreciate it, man. We're going to give it a hell of a go. I'm going to celebrate pretty hard for you alright that shocks me ladies and gentlemen Bob Huggins

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shout to you let's get back to the show joining us college football national champion, Super Bowl champion, A.J. Haas. Hey! A.J., I've been battling in this voice all day, man. How are you doing over there, pal? I'm doing well. How do you think this is going to go for the rest of the week? Are you going to be able to have vocal rest tonight? You know, I'm not sure. I'm actually scheduled to do an interview tonight.

That's supposed to be like an hour and a half long, so it's more talking than normal. I sure it's gonna go fantastic i did saturday and sunday try not to speak as much you know but it's hard hey it is hard it is i don't know how anybody could do it especially you know me and my wife have a weekend we're hanging out it's like i feel like a dick here i'm gonna but it's not so it could be a long week i'd assume aj you're i got this medicine ball thing somebody told me this is the right move it's not bad i think it's helped a little bit what's in it is it for people's voice like it's a starbucks drink on the menu yeah i'm not 100 sure whether somebody just tweeted it and said hey i got an idea for you and their twitter didn't look like it was a fake so i assume they wouldn't be lying to me you know

like bleacher Report did. Hey, AJ, I don't know if you saw the predicament we got ourselves in last hour. Bleacher Report put out a graphic that basically said Tom Brady wants Odell on the Bucs via Adam Schefter. Then we read the article, and it's like Tom might want Odell. So we got got a little bit. You know what I mean? We got got. And I think it's because I just see it. I'm'm like bleach report they they would do their and then you do it it's like oh we got to get better over here aj we got to get better i can't be getting got

like that anymore well was adam schefter actually involved or was that just part of it they just said he reported this well that is interesting because the adam schefter part of it is what makes it such a big deal because it's adam schefter you know what i mean like it's it's old a damn schefter out there doing his thing making his news they said he said that on get up this morning uh that was just a social media post and then you go to the actual website there's an entire article about this thing where he says like he might want him or something like that but it's going to be tough with i would assume tom brady has a friendship with Odell Beckham, was asked, like, hey, would you want Odell?

Because trading Odell seems to be the conversation every single offseason. And he's like, yeah, I obviously would love Odell here. It's going to be challenging with Blubb. I assume the way the information was relayed to Schefter was just like, hey, yeah, I would love him, but I don't know if that's possible. And then, bang, it gets spun into boom, to pal, to graphic, hey, yeah, I would love him, but I don't know if that's possible. And then, bang, it gets spun into boom, to pal, to graphic, to this show, to fuck

DMs. I never said that. Okay, it's kind of my life now, you know? Why is it even news, though? Someone could say, hey, you want Hopkins? Yeah, would love to have Hopkins. Name any receiver in the NFL that is one of the superstars. Yeah, I'll take him.

Of course, that'd be great. Can we bring him on? Like, I don't have to worry about it. Hey, Tom Brady, do you want Julio Jones on your team? Oh, yeah, I would love him. It's going to be a little bit difficult within the division. You know, it's going to be a little bit difficult. But if we can get him on the team, I would absolutely love it.

Fitzpatrick's retiring February 2nd. Allegedly, this is John Clayton's reporting. I have to. Big J journalism. retiring. February 2nd, allegedly, this is John Clayton's reporting. I have to... Big J journalism. According to John Clayton, formerly of ESPN, a man who's from Forest Hills, Pennsylvania, which is within Pittsburgh,

he is reporting that Ryan Fitzpatrick, due to the market for free agency, is leaning... Now, though... Oh, here we go. I i did not know that i did not know that either this was quite a set of circumstances to be dropped here for those that are listening only on serious we were just shown the report that was telling us that fitzpatrick was leaning toward retirement and guess who it's from no no son bitch. AJ, your thoughts on how this is potentially completely wrong here?

Wait, so this is the same account that got you on the last one and you assumed this one was real? Yeah, but you don't remember going into today. Although this account had dropped me into a war with Juju Smith Schuster's people by taking a quote that I, with the worst photo of me. The New York Post wrote another article, worst photo of me ever, which I appreciate. It was at Indy 500, okay? I couldn't even tell you what cloud I was on in that photo that they use for everything.

But they took a quote from our show and said I said that Juju stinks. They basically said, Pat Magnuson says Juju stinks, and then all of a sudden I'm in a fucking war for two days. I didn't even know this account existed, by the way, until then. And then all of a sudden I go in a fucking war for two days. I didn't even know this account existed by the way until then. And then all of a sudden I go through their little, their little Instagram and I go, Oh, this is why this is happening. So I comment on there. Fuck you. That is all I, that was my comment. That was it. They sent me a message back. We apologize,

blah, blah, blah. I'm like, Oh, that's very cool of you. I'm like, I'm happy we settled that. No worries. Like Bleacher Report,, we love Bleacher Report. A lot of information from there. So then like two hours pass, I'm still getting killed. I go back to her Instagram. I'm like, they didn't change shit. And I'm like, yo. So I send a DM. I'm like, yo. And they're like, we'll take it down. I'm like, yeah.

I wonder if Shefty had them do the same exact thing, I wonder. And by the way, should we respect the fact that Bleacher Report Gridiron is just like, yeah, fuck them, we'll delete it if we have to. Stir the pot. Stir the pot. But it is interesting because I did not end the, because I believe the Fitzpatrick, this

graphic came out a couple days ago, so I didn't think anything of it at the time. Me neither. I assumed, hey, there's some legitimacy to this. John Clayton wouldn't lie to us. No. Different times. John Clayton was misquoted. And was John Clayton misquoted

last week about J.J. Watt from this account? Is that what this account does? Is this McCaulkin running Bleacher Reports? Wait, so what is this Gridiron account? I know you guys have talked about this before. This is just the football part of Bleacher Reports Twitter?

Well, that's what we thought. But now we're. Are they affiliated with Bleacher Report? Yeah. Oh, yeah. For sure. Do we know that for sure? For sure.

Because the Bleacher Report article about Tom Brady and Odell actually was the thing that led from this. So you know what I mean? Like, it is. Man. That's why you kind of have to respect that they put the full quote on the website. And then like, hey, let's just spin this fucking thing and put it on IG and let's see where it goes. It's classic headlines move needles.

We're doing a little research back here. So there is some validity. This is from CBS out of Boston if you want to start at the top there. Ryan Fitzpatrick looks like he's going to retire, John Clayton wrote. The Broncos did make some contact with him. He's been with eight teams and played a long time, but it looks like he's going to be out of the mix. Of course, free agency does not technically begin until March 17th, with the legal negotiating window opening on March 15th.

So while Fitzmagic and his agent have likely gotten indication from enough teams to get the sense of lack of interest, something could obviously change in the coming week. Okay. I mean, why does that other news have to be implanted before the next paragraph? Yeah, and why not just copy and paste his entire quote as opposed to saying, copying what he wrote, he wrote, and then writing in what you

wrote. You know what I mean? That's interesting. I gave a quote one time to the news here on something and it was a great quote. I thought it out. I literally thought it was via text like, hey, do you have anything to say about this thing or whatever? And I'm like, you know what? I thought it out. Like, I literally thought it was via text, like, hey, do you have anything to say about this thing or whatever? And I'm like, you know what, I don't normally do this, but I will. So I send this long quote, well thought out, had a beginning and an end, like a button up at the end, you know. I send it to him. They put the first sentence,

Pat McAfee responded. Then they put like, they do like eliminate a sentence and then they he went on to and then this other thing and then the final one i'm like that actually i mean it is kind of what i said but that is not what i actually just copy and paste i fucking did your job for you yeah come on couldn't copy and paste it but you always gotta you know get in the angle of the storyteller that's right in the thing i bet there's some people that are absolutely professionals that get paid big money for big corporations or big, I don't know, papers, whatever, media places to where they could take quotes and they can spin them to where,

hey, we're not going to get sued for this, but we're going to get a headline that'll get your attention. And it's definitely out of context. Maybe there is a tiny bit of truth to it so they can protect themselves. Yeah, they got 10 billyes over there working up YouTube titles. Yeah, that's a scary room. That would be a very intelligent room, taking it easy with the shots on Billy Tubes there.

I didn't say anything about his intelligence. Actually, I complimented his intelligence. From being scary? Yeah. I mean, okay, continue. This is not a Billy. I don't want to kill billy i was complimenting him on being a serial killer billy writes the titles for the youtube you know what i mean pat mcfee reacts to and then whatever it is or whatever he got me into a war with carolina

panthers and i had to send him a text i was like did, did I say this? And he was like, kind of. I was like, oh, my God. Billy, I had to go do like a radio tour down there to clear up my say. Because the headline, you know, now, Billy, that is literally the only time. And there has been some hilarious titles to YouTube videos and reaction videos. But that's the only time. If we had an entire team of Billy's, it would be fantastic. And by the way, I think Bleacher Report Gridiron needs a Billy because Billy has the ability to get that grabber

without just throwing somebody in the middle of a fucking war, except for that one time with the Carolina Panthers. What did you say about the Panthers? I said it was Christian McCaffrey. It felt like Christian McCaffrey's team when Cam got hurt. And I forget how we titled it. But what did you have me say? Pat McAfee says that Cam Newton hates Christian McCaffrey.

So you did it to yourself. What's that? So he just did it. He did this to you. Like it was in your own house. So I actually sent him a text because I was starting to get tweets. Again, this was just like the juju thing. I'm getting like, you know, this fucking punter shouldn't even talk, blah.

And I'm like, why are these people? And I click on this thing, and it's like, hashtag Panthers, whatever it is. I'm like, why do all these Panthers fans hate me? And then somebody screenshot it and said, this is absolute garbage. And I'm like, so I screenshot that. I send it to Bill. I go, did I say that? Instead of watching the entire video, I was like, did I actually?

Because I was wondering. I was like, did I come out and say it? Then I would have to go check the tone and everything. And Bill was like, kinda, kinda. And I was like, well, and Bill, by the way, took the compliment like, a lot of people talking about it. Yeah, hey, look what we're doing. A lot of people.

I mean, you had a radio tour in Charlotte. You did your job, Billy. That's the ultimate compliment for him. Hey, it got some traction. Now, Bill, that's the only time that has ever happened, right? I think that's the only time that's ever happened. I think there's been a couple times we've reworked it, but that's the ultimate compliment for him. Hey, it got some traction. Now, Bill, that's the only time that has ever happened, right? I think that's the only time that's ever happened. I think there's been a couple times we've reworked it, but that's the first time, the only time that it's been like an actual reaction from people.

Oh, shit. Yeah. A screenshot. But that is a talent, especially in this world. You have to get people to stop from whatever. So I understand that Bleacher Report Gridiron's got to do their thing, but there has to be a way not to just fucking completely fabricate and lie about stuff.

Checks and balances. Yeah. Shefty's got to be getting in there, too. Hey, look. Go straight to the source. He DM'd you. Hey, I didn't say that. You got to DM BR Gridiron.

He probably didn't even know they exist. He did because the original tweet's gone. I'm assuming he did. They did delete the original tweet. I do believe I did send him a spotlight. I mean, kind of a snitch, I guess. No, he would have sold it either way. What'd you do?

You sent that to him? You said, hey, did you say this? No, he said, I never said that. It was basically his DM was like, hey, I never said that, Pat. Something like that. Because he reacted to our tweet about the reaction to his alleged report that was fabricated by Bleach Report. So then I said, oh, my fault. We were strictly reacting off of this.

I will. We will retract and apologize, which has led to this 25-minute conversation. How are we ever going to do anything in the future like with all this how do you how do you ever believe anything when it can be taken out of context and also the tom cruise deep fakes are what i think are scaring a lot of people are we ever going to be able to trust any video in the future you can't but you literally can't everything's bullshit like um okay so there's dudes almost kissing the rim right now and dunking it which is unbelievable um but everybody's saying it's bullshit okay like that's bullshit that stinks that dunk contest

stink that's because the things that we see on the internet are so ridiculous so death defying so incredible so magnificent and with those videos on the internet you have to think oh this is edited this is fake this is this there's that video of that guy flicking a bottle cap off the wall undoing one bottle that thing popping up flicking another one and hitting off of that one and spinning back onto the bottle okay so obviously absolutely import i can't even put some whenever you hold it obviously but it was perfect perfected the the edit was so good that it was it got everybody everybody's like look at this look at this look at this so i think the tom cruise thing definitely solidifies like oh that's probably not even the person that you think it is but with everything on the internet you have to

look at it from the eyes of that's bullshit and that's just the world that we're at because of the technology and the foxes that are out there that have the ability to just do whatever they want and the i mean these filters now make you whoever you want to be whenever you want to be well the hard thing though is how do you ever like get confirmation that it is real or not you could it's it's easy enough to get confirmation that it was fake but it's hard to get it that it's real. You got to get them to send a picture of them holding a fork, a knife, and a spoon

with a newspaper from today. Ooh. I'll ask for that. That's called the catfish killer, dude. You're welcome. How come Nev never said that the entire time that's a good question just have them send a picture with a fork and knife in one hand and a

spoon in the other with today's newspaper pretty easy just haven't said it they don't want to talk video cool just have them send that photo fucking no problem nobody has that one in the bank will you take a spork that's fine because there's probably a Spork one on the internet that they'll send. Let's get some phones. Let's get some phones, shall we? Let's go to Austin in Wisconsin. What's going on, Austin? Yo, what's good, homies?

How we doing? Not too shabby. How are you, pal? It's a Monday. It's a Monday. Hi. I got a couple of little bit of conspiracy theories for you involving Russell Wilson, Shindig, and Seattle.

Oh, my God. We know that he's not happy with Pete Carroll and his scheme. We all know that sort of thing. But then we look at Tom Brady and Bill about how Tom wanted to prove that he could win without Bill. Is there a little bit of the same thing going on with Russell in Seattle? And if that is true and he does get shipped out of Seattle, let's say to like Chicago,

are they going to be in the running as well to make a trade for Zach Ertz, Russell Wilson and Zach Ertz up in Chicago? Great question. Does Russell Wilson want to win without Peteete carroll many would say that they haven't won really that much together other than years ago whenever the legion of boom was in the building and marshawn lynch was a prevalent part of the offense so i'm not sure if it's a similar situation i do believe winning in a different style uh is something that russell would like to do it seems like that's the narrative that's being pushed out of there,

even though Pete potentially hates Russ as well. I don't know what all of it is. I'm assuming we'll find out in the days to come, maybe months to come, what was going on behind the doors. But it seems like he's not going to be a Seahawk this year. I don't know how he can at this point. I guess we need to see Pete. We need to see him in any kind of press-related thing or answering questions.

Have we seen Pete? When's the last time he's really made public comments? No, but the thing about Pete Carroll is he's good. He's good at talking. That's what Bob Huggins said about the governor of West Virginia at the time. Whenever he went on, he's real good. He's good at talking. Just such an interesting way to describe a pete carroll we had frank

luntz come talk to us you remember frank luntz yes okay so this guy does focus groups for politicians he came and spoke to indianapolis colts i don't know if the colts hired him or if the nfl had him going to speak to people and he was came to the packers too so the nfl probably hired it and he was supposed to um basically lay out ways to speak that would be more beneficial for fans to like what you're saying or whatever does that make sense so he was trying to and my big question was like you're his method by the way he's in the sociology world a man who was i knew about him coming out of college. I had a sociology class or two. I knew of his focus groups and his studies and everything like that from then.

And then whenever he was speaking to us, you realize, oh, he's a lot shorter than I thought he was going to be. But he had these fresh-ass shoes on or whatever. You know what I mean? But I had known that all of his work was in the political world. So whenever you're trying to tell a politician how to speak versus how an NFL player should speak, and at that point I already had a rather large platform for myself that I was, you know, this guy was basically coming in and telling me not to talk the way I was talking. It felt like that is what he was saying with the words. They showed a video of numerous people doing interviews.

And if it was like a graph live on the screen, like a heart monitor or whatever, you know, and if what he was saying was good, the focus group that he had at the time would press a button and or whatever, you know? And if what he was saying was good, the focus group that he had at the time would press a button and it would go green while he was talking. And then a red would be something that they, like, weren't comfortable with him saying. And then it would go to green. Pete Carroll was, like, the guy that, like, the most green. Like, every time he spoke, it was positive.

It was upbeat. It was blah, blah, blah. And then a couple other guys were like, this is too bang, bang. Like, this is a guy who doesn't want to be on camera at all is speaking or whatever pete carroll much like a politician is a good speaker though and he would be able to navigate these waters with this russell wilson situation very very good but man it would be nice to see him get pressed a little bit on this entire situation behind the scenes oh it would be awesome to see you're right though pete always finds a way to keep it positive but you how you laid out what that frank lunds's presentation was

like you laying it out was much more entertaining than actually i'm just telling you it was a weird it was a weird deal like the whole thing was got awkward i think in green bay that was exactly what it was though right like i'm not but it sounded how you described it i was like oh tell me more this is very interesting i felt like the meeting was good no the meeting was not fun to be it was an hour long it was an hour what i just said there was what 15 20 seconds or whatever this thing was an hour long and it wasn't until about you know probably seven eight minutes in maybe nine minutes and i'm like oh this guy's fuck i'm not running for president i'm fucking ball kicker dude dude. Like, I'm allowed to say, like, hey, go fuck yourself. Okay?

People aren't expecting me, okay, to not say that. Like, it just, it was very, all those speakers, though, have no chance, dude. Middle of training camp. Middle of training camp walking into a team that is probably filled with people that are funnier than you. Have probably damn near same story as you. Like, it is, that is a tough crowd to walk into, I think. Oh, think about it. You probably have, like, the O-linemen are up front all sitting together.

They all have gigantic dips in. They're almost falling asleep. They're freaking out. They're farting the whole time laughing at the guy. Like, the D-linemen are always loud and funny. They're the best, usually. DBs are probably trying to walk out. It's a very, very difficult room to be in, to speak to.

Those fucking poor guys. Now that I'm thinking about Frank Luntz walking in there. He had these American flag shoes on. He's like this world-renowned sociologist or whatever. He's walking into a room. People are like, we just got out of fucking eight hours worth of shit all right i'm gonna go sleep in a bad bed i got a ten thousand dollar bed at my house but i'm forced to sleep in this shitty cot because we're training camp i just ran my face into a man that's 10 years younger than me now i gotta listen to fucking your bullshit it is

i think frank did a relatively good job but he was up against it walking in there i would imagine if those guys are speaking to every team in the NFL, they're getting paid very handsomely to do it, aren't they? I would assume that's a very large fee. Maybe you undercut them and actually tell the players how to speak to fans and you go and do the 32-team tour. You know, I thought about, like, doing something with the NFLPA. Like, is there any way we could do, like, an advising type thing?

Like, hey, this is what we think you should do. I don't know if I ever got a text back. You good? You would, though. They would absolutely benefit from, if teams brought you in when they have those mandatory meetings the NFL makes teams have to educate people on different

things. If they brought you in, talk about media training, or hey, there's all different kinds of media. If you could present to teams first off you'd get giant money and it would actually be beneficial for those guys i've thought about that i i'm i really want to help like x nfl anytime i hear an nfl guy does well i get so pumped you know and not because i think oh you know he and i yeah we play the same sport or anything like that. I just, I just know a lot of like a locker room, although the dynamics might be changing as the years go on and society changes and all that shit. But the amount of sacrifice that guys have to put in to be good at football, to make

the NFL, it could potentially lack in other areas. So whenever you see guys have success afterwards and debunk the stats and theories about like what, 80% go bankrupt or whatever. I fucking love it. So I'm all about it. I don't know if that'll ever happen, but I mean, I should probably make really hilarious money first before I start speaking to anybody else. But it's right around the corner from what I've been told. From what I've been told.

A lot of people think I'm potentially going to sell out. Don't worry. I've been a millionaire since I was 23 years old. I never changed one motherfucking time. Now, if I do get a billion, I might be tough to talk to. That's going to be a long time from now, though. Just know that if that ever happens, I might be tough to reach. Aside from that, let's keep this thing going.

Don't go corporate. It's like, have you fucking... Could you imagine how long that would last? That would be a very quick in and out of this. Not very long. We save the effort too much. Yeah, you're right. Also, to those people, I mean, you're doing this to make money.

Dicks. Dicks are like, hey, if we need to sell out... Dicks are like, hey, if we need to sell out. Dicks are like, hey, if we need to sell out. Having highlights. Listen, the corporate COVID cowboy over there would fucking... Let's go to Brendan. Wants to talk about Shinigami.

What's going on, dude? Yo, what up, Fat and the Boys? How y'all doing? You know, not too shabby. How are you doing? It doesn't say where you're from, so I apologize for that.

We got Gumpy working those phones right now. Hey, Gumpy. What's up, Gumpy? Hey, that a boy, Gump. No, I'm from like 45 minutes away from AJ. I live in Bell Fountain, Ohio. Okay, Ohio. All right.

I probably know a lot about you already. What do you want to talk about? You know what that means. I just wanted to know if you was going to talk shit to Shinigami for butchering your last name. Brendan, thank you for bringing that up. We're going to have to get to a break after this, but this weekend. I don't know about this. I can't wait to hear it.

Our guy, Shinigami, 33-year-old Shinigami, by the way. I saw that in the video. 33-year-old Shinigami. I don't like that. He traveled from the West Coast as the Street Beef's West Coast heavyweight champ. He traveled over to a mud pit in Virginia to fight against the OG East Coast Street Beef's heavyweight champ. Big smile. And at the beginning, you know, instead of a shout out Rachel let's do this he gave a shout out to his sponsors we're one of them just absolutely

positively slaughtered the pronunciation of my name just classic substitute teacher did not graduate comes in, reads that thing McAfee? Is McAfee here? Have a little cooth lady. The big A after the C means Mac. Alright? It's been a country's tradition since the beginning.

It's fucking Scotland. Have a little respect here. Anyways. He died. it's fucking scotland have a little respect here anyways he died i saw it was a draw yeah so it was a draw i didn't i didn't know about him butchering your name you know what i bet he knew he's just messing with you man he's just trolling he knows how to say it i think it's because you were pretty much laughing in his face whenever we were interviewing yeah oh was i was i yeah yeah yeah you were absolutely not i i thought i had some We're pretty much laughing in his face Whenever we were interviewing Was I? Absolutely not I thought I had some hard hitting good questions too You were laughing in his face

Not even close I was laughing at you Because you sit there and just get distracted I was dialed in I hope he didn't feel like you disrespected him Because I do plan on staying in the Shinigami business At least until we find out whether or not he can beat up Big Smile. He almost landed a big kick early.

Oh, man. Oh, my God. He was fighting at 4 a.m. Shinigami time, by the way. They had him tee off at 5, 6 a.m. East Coast time. Trying to screw him over. It was in standard definition I was watching, by the way. I could barely make out the little, what are those things? Pixels.

Okay, that's my guy, Pixels. Now, listen, I'm not saying it. We gotta get to a break. It's almost like if that first kick doesn't land, he does not have Well, here's the thing. Shinigami needs to train. I mean, guess what? When you're getting driven back into a chain link fence and smacking your body against it, that takes

a lot out of you. It was evident. Shinigami was not ready for that kind of grapple game. He'll be back, though. It was still a draw. Yeah. They'll be a rematch. They'll be a two. What? I mean... That's where the money is. The money's in the rematch. You know that. He got TKO'd in the first round, and then they just said, fuck it,

and came back out and fought in the second round. It made no sense. I will say there was a couple different times I thought the fight was over, and we had another round afterwards. And that is why I am a Street Beefs fan. I was watching on my phone, it popped up out of nowhere, like literally nowhere, 1130. The Demon Boys

got notifications on your phone? I think Zito actually sent us in, it was like, and Shinigami's back to fight or whatever. Here we go. And I had my phone down, I might have been in my Oculus actually, and I pick up my phone, I'm like, did I miss it? And I open it, all of a sudden it's you know it picks late i'm like where are we okay here we are it's already started and shinigami's

fucking getting after it and then it didn't look good for shinigami and the round ended and i was like i think he just lost i actually texted the group boys i think shinigami just lost and then they're like one more round i'm like wait a. Hold. They did that like two more times. One more round. They put out another round. And then they were both just dead. And they're like, we'll do this again. So.

So was there judges? I'm not sure exactly how the scorecard works. Because I felt like there was no scorecard. I felt like it was just a crowd. You know? So we should think about that. Maybe load the crowd the next year. Shinogami TKO!

He won! He won! 10-7! 10-7! Big smile is a problem though. Oh yeah. Thick skull. They're going to have a rematch. We will hopefully be in the Shinogami business depending upon how much

it is. I did not know we could have got the middle of the back as well I thought We got the tramp stamp because I was told middle of the back Potentially taken or whatever Tramp stamp looks best too when you got a leg kick RKO you know Yeah I mean that was the marketing We might go outside of the leg next time

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