The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 370 - NFL's Massacre Week Continues, Kyle Brandt, Charles Davis, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: March 10, 2021

On today's show, Pat and the boys react to all the releases and restructuring of contracts as Massacre Week really kicks off now that the salary cap has been set at $182.5 million, and what they expec...t to see as the week continues. Joining the show is co-host of Good Morning Football, host of the 10 Questions Podcast, former actor, Real World cast member, Princeton RB and friend of the program, Kyle Brandt, to chat about Pat being the newest guest on 10 Questions, his career arc and if sports were always where he was going to end up, if he's ever going to be on the Real World/Road Rules Challenge,  and how they approach something like Massacre Week positively on GMFB (29:32-1:03:38). Next, a voice for the NFL on CBS, color commentator for the Madden franchise, friend of the program, Charles Davis joins Pat and AJ Hawk to chat about what he's been up to, his preparation for the NFL Draft coverage on NFL Network and what he thinks of a few of the Quarterback prospects, and if his conversations with teams throughout the season gave indication that they knew what the salary cap situation was going to be like (1:05:10-1:24:05). Later, Pat and AJ discuss and react to all the different players getting cut during massacre week and what is going to end up happening with the Russell Wilson situation (1:24:07-1:45:40). Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow and listen every day on Mad Dog Radio, Sirius XM Channel 82. We appreciate you all for listening, come and laugh with us, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello! Wednesday, March 10th. Let's have a day! Woo! Good guest, good conversation. I can't thank you enough for joining us. If by the end of the show you like it, please be a friend, tell a friend. If not, just act like it never happened. Ty, let's get to it, shall we? Yep, sounds good. There's a lot of things to talk about. There's college basketball games happening all damn day. We've been gambling since this morning. I mean, it is a great time to be a sports fan. With that being said,
Starting point is 00:00:27 Massacre Week does continue. Now that the official salary cap has been put into place at $182.5 million, at $182.5 million, down roughly $15.75 million from what last year's salary cap was. It is expected now that the teams know the number they have to get to. More players will be cut this week than anybody could expect.
Starting point is 00:00:58 Diana Rossini said that last week, said it was going to be a massacre. Jay Glazer said that this morning. Now, what happened last night after hours? Malcolm Butler was officially released from the Tennessee Titans in Massacre Week. Everybody's going to be trying to get below the salary cap. They're going to have to make big moves. There's going to be big names that are getting cut from teams that we could have never expected
Starting point is 00:01:19 because money is the root of all decisions being made. Malcolm Butler gone. Quan Alexander traded from the San Francisco 49ers who play in Santa Clara and Phoenix, Arizona. Traded Quan Alexander, middle linebacker, to the New Orleans Saints. He got hurt a little bit, but he played well for them. $13 million against the salary cap is gone. No dead money. He is cut.
Starting point is 00:01:43 The New Orleans Saints are making as many moves as they possibly can. Last week, they cut Thomas Morstead. They're all pro, pro bowl punter. They renegotiated their kicker's contract who's one of the best kickers to ever kick in the NFL. And after the Quan Alexander release comes, Emmanuel Sanders has been released
Starting point is 00:02:01 from the New Orleans Saints. That is the moves that have been made thus far last night into today. We assume there will be more this afternoon as the salary cap is now put into place and solidified. Franchise tag day has passed. Now it's time to figure out teams. COVID cowboy Atone Diggs is here, although you're gambling on a lot of college basketball games.
Starting point is 00:02:20 We've got to keep our eye on the wire today. Anybody can get it on this particular day, Diggs. Listen,s listen while this is march madness there's still only one true king and the nfl news outweighs the march madness always and forever especially this year when these really really good players are going to be on the market just changing the landscape of the nfl yeah there's going to be a seismic shift uh the Arizona Cardinals owner said, immediately getting off his own plane that he flew J.J. Watt to the team to sign for $32 million. He said there's going to be a seismic shift with the names that are going to be open. Now, there's a lot of cap space remaining for a lot of teams. A lot of teams are in a great spot right now, especially with rollover cap space from last year
Starting point is 00:03:01 and the ability to save money maybe and not blow it anywhere. But there's a lot of teams that are in trouble. A lot of teams in trouble right now. At Ty Schmitt, Green Bay Packers are not necessarily in the most comfortable position. They're going to have to make some moves. Not necessarily going to be buyers in this whole thing, but NFC Championship team, Green Bay Packers, back-to-back years, might look a little different next year.
Starting point is 00:03:22 Yeah, they are cash-strapped for sure. I can do the whole song and dance about these guys who i think i it would be awesome if you know the packers would end up signing them they're not going to be able to do that with anybody and chances are they're probably going to have to get rid of one or two guys who maybe a lot of people didn't expect them to to get rid of so one of the smiths i believe uh defensive end or linebacker smith is one of them uh yeah zadarius smith who the the one who's been to you know two straight pro bowls he said he wants to restructure wants to be a packer for life so they might do something there and then preston smith on
Starting point is 00:03:55 the other guys uh he's who they're talking about either trading or cutting uh shout out to zadarius doing that renegotiating restructuring but let's not be so sure that gunter kunz is gonna do the right thing with the money you're giving back so think about that whenever you're renegotiating, restructuring, but let's not be so sure that Goon to Goon is going to do the right thing with the money you're giving back. So think about that whenever you're renegotiating your deals. You have to think about that when you're like, okay, listen, I'll give you guys some money back. All right, cool.
Starting point is 00:04:16 Then you go and just shit it out. It's like, all right, so we both got fucked here. You're wasting money. I lost money. How are you doing that? But I like the fact that he wants to stick around. I assume there's going to be some contract announcement with Aaron too. That seems to be what everybody's saying. I'm intrigued to watch how that team turns out.
Starting point is 00:04:32 A team that is sitting with a lot of money. Cleveland Browns got a bunch of money. The Indianapolis Colts have a bunch of money. I believe the Cardinals still somehow have moved a lot of JJ's money into future years. He's only making like 4.9 or 5 million dollars. They have a lot of JJ's money into future years. He's only making like $4.9 or $5 million. They have a lot of money.
Starting point is 00:04:47 The New England Patriots have a lot of money. Hey, the team that disappeared that we all thought were potentially dead, they have a lot of money. And, Connor, you have been talking a lot of shit about players that are potentially going back to New England. Do you feel that the Patriots are going to come back, or do you think these teams that maybe if you listen to the seismic shift report from the Arizona Cardinals owner,
Starting point is 00:05:06 do you think there's a chance for teams to come out of nowhere? In particular, a team that everybody has ruled dead, the New England Patriots? And more so, Pat, absolutely. They do have a chance to come out of nowhere. But even if – wouldn't it just make sense that the guy who never pays anybody, Bill Belichick, flips the script this year and starts paying people because no one else can. We went all in the last five years. That's true.
Starting point is 00:05:30 We sold out. We did what we could. Went to five AFC championships, three Super Bowls, yada, yada, yada. Four Super Bowls, won three of them. There it is. Sorry. Sometimes I forget. There's so many.
Starting point is 00:05:41 But Hunter Henry, Emmanuel Sanders is going to be able to get him on the cheap, maybe. I mean, there's so many options out there now. With the defense coming back that all held out. Yeah, bring in Hightower, and there's still time to move some guys around to get even more cap. So, I mean, things are looking up for New England. You get Bud Dupree up there in New England. Oh, man, if we do that, see you in the bowl, boys. Kenny Galladay.
Starting point is 00:06:03 Oh, bring in Kenny. Why not? Really good quarterback. Yeah. Jimmy G potentially with Cam Newton going out to Sam Fran maybe. Jimmy's been paid. There's so much that could potentially happen. And I do know that, you know, whenever we played in the Fiesta Bowl,
Starting point is 00:06:19 when we played in the Fiesta Bowl, Bill Stewart, rest in peace, legend, was our interim head coach because Rich Rod had just accepted a job at Michigan or whatever. So that means you can't coach in a game that you worked all year for because you accepted a job somewhere else. That's just kind of how the business goes. Didn't make sense to me then, really. Still doesn't at this point. I guess it would help recruiting, but everybody knows you're gone, so it doesn't really matter. It wasn't Rich's decision.
Starting point is 00:06:40 This is like what coaches do or whatever. But Bill Stewart gave us this one speech. I think we were practicing at a junior college outside of phoenix a little bit then we moved in later in the week to kind of do our stuff in uh the mountains out there you know he looks he goes you see those mountains and we all look and obviously we fucking see them you know it's real flat he goes those are superstitious mountains men used to go into those mountains thinking they were going to get gold and they died in those mountains they were told a false story they were told a false narrative they thought they were going to get broken off whenever they go into those mountains what happened they died let me tell you another thing about a little false
Starting point is 00:07:17 narrative oklahoma told us that we ain't never going to be able to whatever that whole thing i feel like all these conversations we have are potential false narratives you know because massacre week up until maybe what today has been a bit of a dud it has been but now that jay glazer's like it's going to go down i mean maybe it will go down but could you imagine if bud dupree goes and signs with new england emmanuel sanders maybe goes back to pittsburgh where he got this whole thing started kenny doll or kenny galladay goes to the Colts. There's going to be a lot of that potentially. This is what everybody's saying.
Starting point is 00:07:49 Everybody's saying like, hey, look for one-year rentals are potentially going to happen. Look for a lot of teams coming together, kind of super team-like. That has never happened in the NFL really, aside from, I guess, Tampa now, Kansas City. There's always been ring chasing. But at the magnitude that everybody's talking about, including us because we are just reading reports, we're observing and reporting,
Starting point is 00:08:07 it would be insane if some of these teams got one-year cheap deals out of players just to come try to get a ring and then go somewhere else. And if New England is one of those teams, it would be absolutely wild for everybody. Free agent market's wild. But even, I mean, Watson, Wilson, Derek Carr, there might be other quarterbacks moving too. By the way, it feels like that's another superstition mountain where we're going in there thinking they're not going to get moved. In Russell Wilson, exactly. A superstition quarterback mountain.
Starting point is 00:08:35 Here's the Mount Rushmore. All right, right up there. But Russell Wilson going back into Seattle is going to be uncomfortable. Yeah. Okay, with his teammates. Deshaun Watson having to go back into Houston, Texas. It's not uncomfortable with his teammates or his coachesun Watson having to go back into Houston Texans, it's not uncomfortable with his teammates or his coaches,
Starting point is 00:08:49 but it's very uncomfortable in the entire building. I would almost say at this point it's more uncomfortable early, not that Russell Wilson couldn't get past it and his teammates wouldn't get past it because we're professionals and we've had a lot of success, blah, blah, blah. We've got to do what we've got to do if you're them. But I feel like Russell Wilson going back in that locker room is much more uncomfortable than Deshaun Watson. Russell Wilson allegedly and Pete Carroll don't get along now he's buried his teammate well
Starting point is 00:09:08 he has and his team has buried his teammates basically he said four teams he'd rather play for okay so that's that's a little bit tougher conversation walking in the locker room I think than Deshaun Watson who's like I hate this fucking guy everybody's like, yeah, we kind of do too. We're with you. You know what I mean? You're the lineman under the bus too. Exactly. That's what I'm saying. So will any of these moves happen that we think are going to happen? I'm thinking maybe not.
Starting point is 00:09:32 All right? I'm thinking maybe not. I'm hopeful. I'm wishful. Please. You know, for our show, for the sake of our show, not for the teams. Like, hey, Seattle Seahawks fans, I get a lot of tweets from Seattle Seahawks fans saying that, you know, we're mean to the Seahawks or whatever.
Starting point is 00:09:46 And listen, I don't think we are at all. I think we're pretty fair on this entire thing. And we apologize for this, but if Russell Wilson was to move in the next couple weeks and that thing was deferred past June, that would be huge. The cuts that we might have today over the next three hours might be huge. I mean, there might be some really big things. Or we might just sit here and twiddle our fucking thumbs for the next week. That's what it feels like. Now that the cap's set, NASCAR week starts.
Starting point is 00:10:12 Teams are about to chop some people off the block. The interesting thing about the cap being set, and sometimes behind the ears it hurts, the glasses. You have to double the wires. But you still want to have the blue ray protection. Looking at screens still. All day, every day. Smart.
Starting point is 00:10:34 Man, that definitely distracted me there, but I'll put him back. Half rays even. No, so the salary cap going down or whatever, and then everybody's saying it's going to be big, and Jay Glazer reporting it's going to be big. Now we've got people reporting what the salary caps are for each team, and we've got conflicting reports from people. I don't think anybody knows exactly how many dollars and cents everybody has,
Starting point is 00:10:55 but it's been pretty apparent who's fucked and who's not. So the Saints are a massive part of Massacre Week because they've got to get under quickly. Other teams that are over the cap via Doovey Kleiman at NFL underscore Doovey. The Rams are 29 million over. Eagles are 25 million over. Allegedly now.
Starting point is 00:11:13 We don't know whose numbers Doovey's coming from because Andrew Brandt and Spotrack, the company, they disagreed on one particular team's number. So if they disagreed on one, do they disagree on more? And how many different fucking numbers do we got? I'm not 100% sure,
Starting point is 00:11:26 but Rams, 29 million. Eagles, 25. Bears, 20. Chiefs, 18. Falcons, 11. Packers are $5 million over. Manageable. Giants are $5 million over.
Starting point is 00:11:36 Vikings, $1 million. And the Bucs are $400,000 over, but they're already in conversations with Tom Brady, they said, to restructure a contract, which I assume they will do and defer to later years in this entire thing, because they did take away the differential and payment from one year to the next in the contract. It used to be a rule where you couldn't
Starting point is 00:11:54 change a certain amount, a percentage of the contract, I think 25% or something like that. Now they said, hey, you can go ahead and change because of the world that we're in. If you can make it all work down the line, look for a lot of restructuring, smaller can go ahead and change because of the world that we're in if you can make it all work down the line. Look for a lot of restructuring, smaller numbers, cutting, and all that shit. But here we are just waiting. Saints are down to 30, so they're now below or in a better situation than the Rams and Eagles. 30 over?
Starting point is 00:12:16 30 over, yes. Yeah, see, that's still. I mean, that is so much money. Last year at 198, this year 182.5. Everybody shapes their contracts as if it's going up because, by the way, it is going up in every other asset except for the ticketing and concessions and everything like that. So all these contracts by these GMs and these salary cap managers that teams have
Starting point is 00:12:39 and lead counsel negotiations, it's all being set with a predictor model that's basically saying this shit's going up and up and up. so all the players hate back-end deals because you want to get your money up front you want to get paid later because you don't know what's going to happen later and everything like that normally the back-end deals can have a little bit more of a jump because they're predicting that the salary cap is going to go up they're going to have more room to dance with and when that salary cap doesn't do that you got a lot of people who are they're playing ahead people they're like whoa whoa, we could not have. It's like, hey, force majeure, bro.
Starting point is 00:13:09 Uncle COVID came through, and you are done-zo with everything you've got going on. Arizona Cardinals, can you put that list back up of the overall cap from Spotrak? Buda Baker will be joining us. Oh, here we go. The rollover? Yeah, yeah, This is total cap with rollover. Cleveland Browns, $212 million.
Starting point is 00:13:29 Dallas Cowboys, $210 million still. What? No, because they haven't done the deal yet. So this is on franchise tag, which they have more money than probably. Because franchise tag was $37 million. He's only like $31 or something next year against the Caps. They're saving like $6 million. What's up, Diggs? So while Dallas Cowboys do have $210 million for their cap,
Starting point is 00:13:48 they have already spent $208 million of it, so they only have $2 million left. Okay, so these aren't updated numbers. No, they are. That's what their cap number is. That's not how much cap space they have left. Oh, okay, okay. This is how much money they can spend next year
Starting point is 00:14:03 with the rollover from previous years not spending the cap money. So if you save money from last year, for instance, Cleveland Browns, you do some quick math, they saved like $30 million from last year, so they were able to roll it into this year to $212 million altogether. Yes. And the Browns
Starting point is 00:14:20 have $25 million left in cap space. Jeez, there's some teams that can get real good real quick. Yeah, and the Patriots have $55 million, I believe, left, but they're only listed at $205 left in cap space. Jeez, there's some teams that can get real good real quick. Yeah, and the Patriots have 55, I believe, left, but they're only listed at 205 on that list. So 205 is your cap. You have 55 still left. So although you get to play with an extra, what,
Starting point is 00:14:36 23 million or something like that, you're 2 million under the cap at the current moment. Yeah, like the Patriots right now have only spent 135 million. They have 70 million left in cap space to get to that $205 million. Including the Trent Brown? Yes. Do you know anything about your fucking team? Well, it said 66 yesterday.
Starting point is 00:14:54 Then we did Trent Brown, so that you minus 11 from that 66. So I assumed it was 55. Yeah, that's good math, by the way. Thank you. I thought so, too. By the way, welcome home, Trent Brown, huh? Welcome home. It's good to have him back, man. That tattoo he has. Uh-huh thought so, too. By the way, welcome home, Trent Brown, huh? Welcome home. It's good to have him back, man.
Starting point is 00:15:06 That tattoo he has. Uh-huh. Oh, yeah. The best. He's meant to be up there. I mean, come on. Yeah, I guess. All right.
Starting point is 00:15:15 We'll answer some phones. 1-888-MADDOG6. Gumpy's answering the lines. Normally, Mitt and Gumpy, they answer the phones before the show starts. I feel like it's the same group of people calling at the same time. And I appreciate those people trying to get in there. But I get a lot of tweets from people telling me that they call in for hours on time and they can't get in. So I tried today to adjust the time of Gumpy answering the phones.
Starting point is 00:15:39 Maybe it's a different batch of people. No offense to the people that call in on a regular basis. We appreciate you. I am just tired of getting the tweets from people that are like, hey, I could never get through. I just want to be a community. I just want to be a community around here. Now, we did learn yesterday that the phones
Starting point is 00:15:54 stink. Yes, that's right. Well, but then we had that one caller that said it was perfect. That was a delightful experience. And then Mitt said he was going to speak honestly. He had no idea that nobody knew about the full. He's having a vacation right now. I mean, he is.
Starting point is 00:16:11 Did anybody enjoy their week off or will enjoy their week off more than what Mitt is doing right now? Not a chance. No way. Central time, right? Yeah, 11-19. So it's 11-19. He's probably already had eight IPAs on the slopes. Probably on his second gallon of mimosas.
Starting point is 00:16:25 Yeah, if he's still standing up, I'd be shocked. I'd be very surprised. I'd be very surprised if he does well. So yesterday, Dak Prescott got paid. Today, some players are getting cut. There's college basketball all day. When's the draft? 55 days.
Starting point is 00:16:40 50 days. 50 days until the NFL draft. 55 days. 50 days. 50 days until the NFL draft. I got a chance to, you know, reminisce about the 2019 Nashville draft with Kyle Brandt on this 10 questions thing. I did not, now, this 10 questions show,
Starting point is 00:16:55 I should have listened to more episodes. I listened to the clips. I didn't listen to full episodes. So the clips don't tell you the questions that are being asked to get to those clips. And I think I had a pretty poor show. They are trivia questions. They're tough questions, yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:11 Trivia questions I got asked. Okay, who was the president? Ty, I told you the answer. I think I told everybody the answer. I can't believe it. Oh, yeah, that's right. Yeah, yeah, I told everybody. All right, I'll ask Diggs.
Starting point is 00:17:22 I'll make him feel bad. C.T. Diggs, who was the president after Tricky Dick Nixon got caught up in Watergate? Who was the president that became president whenever he got stepped down or whatever? Eisenhower. Great guess. Bingo. Eisenhower.
Starting point is 00:17:36 Fucking Gerald Ford, dude. I said Warren G. Harding. That's a great answer. Good guess. I would have said Lyndon B. Johnson. The fact that you knew that was a president, I mean, just pulling that out, that's a good answer. I would have said Lyndon B. Johnson. The fact that you knew that was a president, I mean, just pulling that out, that's a good answer. Man, there was a couple questions.
Starting point is 00:17:49 A lot of pop culture questions in there. You know what I mean? Like, bro, I have. I have no idea. So the way we got to it, and this is not too much of a spoiler. I would appreciate it if you went and downloaded this podcast, though. People at Spotify have no idea we exist. This is a Spotify exclusive.
Starting point is 00:18:08 I think it's a good show. Kyle Brand, I'm a big fan of kyle brand i think we had a good one it'd be nice if they saw that thing potentially yodel a little bit because it is a good show but uh he he asked me to finish a lyric and it was i'm mr brightside and then it stopped and he went on this whole thing about how that was the killer's big breakout song like the killers had been around they kind of been a thing and then mr brightside kind of took him over the moon then he talked about how the draft he thought was that for me and i was like oh it's really cool and got a chance to talk about that story they need to continue to do the draft in entertaining fashion they need to continue to i'm not just saying because i had a blast up there reggie talking shit i mean you know the David Akers moment where he's talking. Like, they have to continue to do that.
Starting point is 00:18:48 I understand there are draft people that love the draft. Diggs is a guy that loves the draft. He will sit there and watch the draft day three, day four, however many days it is, he'll do it. I like that they're trying to make that thing as entertaining as possible. But if I'm a player, there's no chance in hell I'm going to that draft. Well, and they set it up perfectly for years where it's like Tennessee, Colts are a rival.
Starting point is 00:19:06 If they're doing it in Cleveland this year, why not wheel Joey Porter out there and have him talk shit to the crowd? Brett Kiesel. Yes, exactly. Get his ass out of the log cabin in the woods. Get the bus down here. Jerome Betts. Hines Ward.
Starting point is 00:19:19 Oh, perfect. Cleveland will throw stuff, though. Nashville's like a feel good party thing You know what I mean If they start getting real heat up there And people start throwing stuff Now we're talking You throw stuff at Peasy
Starting point is 00:19:34 You dig your own grave I'm just saying I think that's what he'll be attempting to try to do there I think that's what he would be trying to do The thought of that draft having 250,000 people. Do you remember that was the number they were saying? Oh, yeah. They were saying there was 250,000 people.
Starting point is 00:19:52 And me and Fox were looking around like, how the fuck do you count that? You know, like, how did they? And they said, well, and some, like, mathematicians came in my Twitter mentions. It was like, well, they take the space and then they have a max capacity for if a human was in every single spot, and then they graphed it out for the amount of graphs, everything like that. I'm like, okay, did your math say 250,000? Because I feel like while I was speaking in front of those people, it wasn't night one, so I was not there night one or whatever.
Starting point is 00:20:19 I mean, probably should have been, but I was, you know, that's Roger Goodell's time. I was night two, I think. Was that night two or night three? I think it was two. Night two. So I was night two., that's Roger Goodell's time. I was, night two, I think, was that night two or night three? I think it was two. Night two. So I was night two. It was definitely a large crowd.
Starting point is 00:20:29 It was huge. But 250,000 people would be, did I perform a bigger audience than fucking DMX on that one video? Where he comes out and it's like, and it seems like an entire country is out there. It's bigger than Bono, dude. It is bigger than Bono. Way bigger than Bono.
Starting point is 00:20:49 By the way, we got some stats on who has the largest live performance. You know, McCartney's up there at like 175,000 or something like that. 275. No, 275? It could be 175. That's all right. Live Aid? I mean, I feel like it was 175.
Starting point is 00:21:04 You might have been right. I'm not. No, no That's all right. Live aid? I mean, I feel like it was 175. You might have been right. I'm not. No, no, you're right. But then Bono was at like four there, five, at like 100 and some thousand. And I'm thinking to myself, like Roger Goodell did a 250,000 person set for four or five hours. This guy deserves a little bit more respect. Now, I will say, it did not feel like it was 250,000 people. Maybe 100,000, which is still a fucking enormous amount of people.
Starting point is 00:21:27 That is such a better way to do the draft than what they used to do. Oh, my God. In New York every year. No offense to New Yorkers. Love New Yorkers, obviously. Big part of our country. But it got a little old whenever, okay, this Giants fan's going to do this. This Jets fan's going to do this.
Starting point is 00:21:43 Sleeping in the theater. You still get that stuff at the other places, so it's fine. It was a good idea, though. I wonder what took so long. Why didn't they start touring that thing before, I wonder? I assume once they did that Nashville one, they're like, well, we've got to do this every single year. Keep it going. Did they do it before there?
Starting point is 00:22:00 Philadelphia, right? They moved it to Philly. There was a Dallas one. There was a Philly one. Chicago, right, was one of them. I think it's because before the draft was just for dudes who loved the draft like me. But the draft has grown now to a spectacle. It's part of the season.
Starting point is 00:22:13 Yeah, but you have to grow it to a spectacle, right? It's like one of those. I wonder when the NFL was like, oh, we can make money off of this. Oh, we can make this. Oh, we can have a 250,000-person live crowd. Let's go. Just us announcing college kids. Especially on day two and three where the analysts, they still talk,
Starting point is 00:22:30 but the picks are going in much quicker. You need to have something that is electrifying. Bro, reminiscent about that night with Roger. I didn't know Roger was there. Roger's there all the nights, by the way. He's in the little side. There's a little side gimmick there. Some M&Ms? Yeah, and that's where they give you the nights, by the way. He's in the little side. There's like a little side gimmick there. Some M&Ms.
Starting point is 00:22:45 Yeah, and that's where they give you the card, right? And they tell you who was drafted. Now, what I forgot to talk about on that 10 questions thing, and it literally just came back to me, Chris Ballard texted me 10 minutes before their pick. He was like, we're trading the pick. I was like, you motherfucker. We were so defeated.
Starting point is 00:23:02 Oh, you motherfucker, you and then uh then like a minute before he was like we got a good one don't worry about it or something i'm like okay so i'm back in the game all right so i was just sitting back here for five hours yeah did not know if they're gonna trade the pick or not okay so then i i go out there and it's like showtime or whatever i'm like all right this is gonna be a blast and the first person you see when you get in this little side gimmick is roger goodell he's just like sitting there and i'm like roger what's up dude dap up full dap up full embrace as if it's a thing he mocks what i'm wearing you know which is becoming a staple of my life here at this point i had jeans on that were cuffed up i had a cowboy button down that we
Starting point is 00:23:39 bought day of in broadway because i had a t-shirt i was going to wear originally and then i i kind of got the feel of the room that i probably shouldn't have done that b as is yeah b as if yeah b as if b as if you're unquote you fucked that thing up so so when i go in there he dabs me up he like kind of does his thing he's like have fun out there i'm like you got it walking out there after i get the card by the way okariki oh yeah i was you know the lady that was working back there i think she's one of the head of NFL content or whatever. She's the one that gives me the card. And on the top of it, it has it like, you know, phonetics.
Starting point is 00:24:11 Sounded out. Okariki. I'm like, Okariki? They're like, yeah. I'm like, Okariki. Oh, my fucking God. Biggest day of this kid's life. Because I remember back to my draft day,
Starting point is 00:24:22 Mel Kiper just shit on me on television while I got drafted, you know what I mean? This guy's going to be washing Vinatieri's shoes for two days. He's going to be carrying bags. I'm like, this is my dream come true. Like, I thought I was going back to school here, pal, right? So, like, we have a moment. So the last thing I want to do is fuck this guy's name. So I literally, as I'm standing there,
Starting point is 00:24:41 it's like a minute, two minutes. I'm like, Okariki. Oh, my God. Fuck it. Oh, Ricky. Don't do it. And then I get on a stage in the picture of my face because you know, 250,000 people, it's deep. It's literally like a 20 yard by 30 yard picture of my face up there. And I look at it. I'm just like, Oh my fuck. I should not be that large. Like my face should never be that big. And then Shefty on the other side, I'm just like, oh, my fuck. I should not be that large. Like, my face should never be that big. And then Shefty on the other side. Shefty, like, looks through.
Starting point is 00:25:09 He, like, looks through the ESPN set and does, like, a full one of these. I'm like, thank you. And the only reason he was able to do that, because ESPN went to break, by the way. Oh. The story that doesn't get talked about is ESPN actually went to break for my pick. I'm on during their commercial. NFL Network was the only people that ran me, right? Rich Eisen, Charles Davis is going to be on here.
Starting point is 00:25:28 They put me over. They're laughing for the whole thing. ESPN decided not to. They're like, we're going to a break here for this one. It's like, you sons of bitches. But the NFL Network got us obviously, and that's all she wrote. But that's why everybody wonders why he went, Okariki! It is because that was the
Starting point is 00:25:44 That was the phonetic spell. That was the end of the thing, you know, the end of the entire little moment there. And I was so pumped. And I was like, now let's just get the motherfucker's name. Okay, let's just do it. And as soon as I hit it, I'm like, let's bring it back one more time. Little victory lap here. And let's get out. I had an absolute blast. I hope now I know there's been people that have made it into something every time they've done it but if you get a chance to do that like man you should at least have a good i was so lucky they asked by the way people thought cal brandt said the colts asked you to do it nope the nfl did the colts actually had joe writes robert matheson and orangutan that's right and then the nfl asked me to do it i was so thankful for that thing it was really cool talking with cal brandt though 10 questions we went through it all i mean it was awesome i remember being in the green room for that and the green was really cool talking with Kyle Brandt. 10 questions. We went through it all. I mean, it was awesome. I remember being in the green room for that. And the green room was dead.
Starting point is 00:26:28 That's where all the players are and stuff. Because it's a long day. Just drinking beers back there. Exactly. And then once you went up there, everyone lost it. That place got so loud. A little energy back there. It was so funny.
Starting point is 00:26:38 Shane Leckler, he was supposed to be there to do that. I think the Texans did trade his pick. They did, yeah. They traded his pick. So he was just fucking hanging out. He's like, oh, bro, just wasting a fucking day. He's awesome. Do you remember that bus ride over, though?
Starting point is 00:26:52 I remember that was all those legends on there. I think T.O. was on there. Dante Hall might have been on there. That one was awesome. Damn. It was everybody that made an announcement that night was basically on the bus. And we're just sitting in there. And it's just like, why am I on this bus?
Starting point is 00:27:04 Why am I on there? Well, I had's just like, why am I on this bus? Why am I on there? Well, I had that question immediately following why I was on there. Why am I on this? Foxy's on this bus. What's that all about? That was awesome, and those player things are awesome, and I'm glad they're coming back, but what I will miss is Raj in his 1987 basement eating M&M's.
Starting point is 00:27:21 Yeah, I'll tell you what. That maybe stole the show. It's where I watch NFL football. Wouldn't even say the sport of football. Yeah, I'll tell you what, that maybe stole the show. It's where I watch NFL football. Wouldn't even say the sport of football. No, no. NFL football right here on this chair. Okay, we're moving it for the cameras and everything. It'll be over here. And these are my
Starting point is 00:27:36 peanut M&M's that I eat every single Sunday, Monday, Thursday, and Saturdays if they call us for it during a worldwide pandemic. They are delicious. And next time, by the way, he had the forethought, we need to eliminate some M&Ms. We need to eliminate some M&Ms. He went through three of those fucking bins last year.
Starting point is 00:27:52 Alpha change. He was unbelievable. He got more comfy as the night went on. That's my, hey, that's my commission. Hell yeah. You think Roger ever sees clips from this show? Yeah, sure. After I did that draft announcement,
Starting point is 00:28:06 I did not hear from Roger Goodell, by the way. At least maybe like a, hey, pretty good out there. Hey, man, appreciate it. But also he didn't send like a, hey, don't ever fucking say the NFL's name again. Which could have happened there. True.
Starting point is 00:28:19 I wonder if he ever gets like a clip from our show that shows up on his, you know, because he's the boss at NFL Network. He runs NFL Network. He is the boss at NFL Network. I believe NFL Network. He is the boss at NFL Network. I believe he's a part of all the media conversations. And then there's this show that happens, and then that thing. I wonder how Roger Goodell feels about us. I love you.
Starting point is 00:28:34 Yeah. I mean, with the exception of a couple of things you may have said about Al River on which you have retracted since. I have retracted. Those need to be redacted from the minutes, please. Exactly. Outside of that, I mean, you're a pretty good spokesman for the league. I think so.
Starting point is 00:28:50 I think so. Is it possible, Raj texted Ballard, like, hey, I just saw what your guy was wearing. You guys better trade that pick in the next, you know, ten minutes or else we're not walking him out there. He didn't see it. This thing was huge. Huge. It was like two piers big. People were just sitting in these tents.
Starting point is 00:29:09 You had to walk a quarter mile to get to the stage. Wasn't it Drew Locke with like 30 of his boys there? I think he was supposed to go in the first round. He ends up going the next night. All his boys, they were at the hotel we were at afterwards. They were having a good time. Great time. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:23 Great time. I don't know if Drew Locke was with them. I don't think he was probably doing stuff if i had to guess this now is the host of 10 questions which is a podcast uh on spotify i believe he's a host on good morning football every single morning very very thankful for this guy's existence in the sports world. He was on Real World at one point in his life. He was producing for Jim Rome for a long time. Now he's finally dominating the airwaves by himself in the sports world.
Starting point is 00:29:55 We're lucky to have him, ladies and gentlemen, Calibre. It's so great to be here on the Warren G. Harding Show. Thank you, Mr. President, for having me. Okay, so somebody just tweeted me, actually, because we talked about that in the last hour, because nobody in here got it right either, by the way, just for future reference.
Starting point is 00:30:11 So I have a Harvard guy. I got accepted to Harvard guy here, Ty. Anytime I feel like I potentially have looked stupid, I call him immediately and I go, hey, should I have known this? And he goes, no, nobody would have known that. I'm like, okay, good news. But one of your questions was,
Starting point is 00:30:26 who became president when Tricky Dick got the Watergate thing and stepped down? Obviously, I said Warren G. Harding. It was Gerald Ford. Somebody just tweeted me, he wasn't even vice president at the time. What? No, I was out of left field.
Starting point is 00:30:39 How was I supposed to know that, Kyle? I mean, it wasn't like I went to the 1830s, Pat. We didn't do Calvin Coolidge and all that stuff. This was like the 60s, all right? This is not that long ago. Kyle, the show is awesome, by the way. Thank you. The show is awesome.
Starting point is 00:30:53 It's a great concept, great idea. You're a great host for it. It's awesome. I'm happy you're getting a chance to do it. But he says, you lead off, right? And they're like, hey, Brett Favre got a seven, all right? Alex Smith got a seven all right alex smith got a nine like these things so i get fucking question one and i'm like oh no like i i was actually
Starting point is 00:31:12 thinking is somebody am i gonna goose egg this thing kyle helped me a little bit richie helped me a little bit which is the producer but that show is awesome kyle it's a great great can we talk about what question one was because here's the deal. When I make the questions, it's like you script your first ten plays. First and ten, the first play of the game, I want just a nice, easy completion in the flat. You know, a little six, seven-yard gain. Let's get the confidence up. So, guys, I'm going to read the question, all right? Bear in mind that the point of it is always to get to some connective tissue to something about Pat.
Starting point is 00:31:42 Here's the question. The category is nursery rhymes. Pat knew nothing of this here we go well little jack horner sat in a corner and pulled what out of a pie anybody know with his thumb you're supposed to add in there you fucked up your own question no i helped you with the thumb, Pat. I was cheating the attorneys. I wasn't even supposed to say thumb. Stuck in a thumb and pulled out what? You guys don't know this? No, they know because I told them this
Starting point is 00:32:12 answer, but my answer to you makes sense because it does tie to me. I said an apple. Okay, Jack. This Jack Horner son of a bitch, he went in there and pulled out an entire apple because there's a clip from Thanksgiving a couple years ago where I say like, apple pie, years ago where i say like apple pie by the way i like apple pie and i thought you were going to get into that entire thing so i think i
Starting point is 00:32:29 was kind of in my own head too with what you were potentially asking about now it was not easy i'm not a trivia guy you came out and hit me i mean i would know nothing about what nursery rhymes that is all right do you know anything about beer pat because the beer category you're trying to talk to pat mcafee about what things are going on in the world with society what we're all dealing with look at this question guys listen to this word pat whiffed on this it was a pick six going the other way here we go in 2020 okay what mexican beer brand took a $170 million loss in China. She got 2020 Mexican beer loss in China.
Starting point is 00:33:10 What do you think I'm trying to talk to him about? Okay, so... Modelo. Modelo's been getting in the advertising game. Tecate. Tecate beer. I thought Corona, okay, I was like, I don't know how it does internationally.
Starting point is 00:33:28 So I even said, I was like, hey, you get a Corona, you actually put some limone in there. It actually tastes like fruity pebbles. And then I just, I threw it away. Like, as soon as I said it, I just threw it away. And Kyle comes back and he's like, Pat, 2020, which Mexican? Corona. Thank you. Basically, you gave me a point there.
Starting point is 00:33:50 Richie gave me one earlier. I did. Pat, you're running through. You're like, well, Dos Equis, Tecate, Modelo. You're saying every Mexican beer on the market. And then I'm like, of course, it's Corona. What do you think about COVID, dude? Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:34:04 You cared so much, which is why you were such a good contestant. Well, I thank you for having me on. We watch Good Morning Football every single day. You help us out a lot. That show's incredible. Right now, during something like Massacre Week, which is being projected by the insiders, Diana Rossini said that last week.
Starting point is 00:34:22 Rap Report has said that for the last couple weeks. Today, Jay Glazer confirmed it. There are a lot of cuts coming. With your positivity of your show, how will you guys cover this type of thing on the NFL's channel? How will you cover it, you think? That's a great question. See, I would love to come out every five minutes and have a little Grim Reaper guy with a scythe and a hood. That's fun.
Starting point is 00:34:43 I like that stuff. Yes! I love that. reaper guy with a scythe and a hood that's fun i like that stuff yes we um our my guy who sits across the table from me p shrags peter schrager he tried to call it even worse than matt i don't know if this is worse you tell me which is worse massacre week or bloodbath week because he was calling it bloodbath i think bloodbath youtube would let you have that in your title we could not title a video met life massacre oh no oh no the bloodbath continues oh no here we go wide receiver john brown announced on instagram that he's been released saving buffalo nearly $8 million against a cap.
Starting point is 00:35:26 Dealt with some injuries this past season, but still a productive player. Became expendable in Buffalo. That's via MySportsUpdate. John Brown now follows Emmanuel Sanders, Quan Alexander, Malcolm Butler, Thomas Morstead. Kyle, how is this going to play out? Are teams going to make massive moves? Are players going to all go to one place? How do how is this going to play out? Our team's going to make massive moves.
Starting point is 00:35:45 Our players are going to all go to one place. How do you see this all panning out? It's terrible. John Brown's a perfect example. John Brown is the middle class. Stephon Diggs, those guys aren't going anywhere. The entry-level guys making $900,000 are going anywhere. It's that middle-class guy who's carving out an awesome living.
Starting point is 00:36:04 He's sort of a veteran. Makes $5 million 6 mil, 11 mil, poof, gone. And especially with the Bills, look, they got champagne problems now. They're a title team now, Pat. They got to go to a Super Bowl next year. It's a complete disappointment. So sorry, Smokey Brown, poof, you joined the club, middle class. It's interesting because you start looking at these contracts. A lot of these names were projected by other outlets last week
Starting point is 00:36:26 because you just look directly at the contracts, and it's like, okay, who's a big number that maybe didn't have their greatest season they've ever had last season? They're probably going to be gone. Now that it's at $182.5 million, the salary cap, do you guys at NFL Network get that information before everybody else?
Starting point is 00:36:43 Because you should. Isn't that something that Good Morning Football, you guys should have that information before everybody else? Because you should. Isn't that something that good morning football, you guys should have that information before everybody else. Is that something that happens over there? Are you guys tipped off to anything that could potentially happen? Well, the czar of the information, as far as we're concerned, is the rap sheet. It's your boy rap sheet. He lives up the street from me here up in New York, and he's the guy.
Starting point is 00:36:59 So we'll like, it's like, Pat, we'll be in the middle of, you know, some nonsense off-season segment that we just made up about what Stranger Things character would Baker Mayfield be. Just nonsense. Okay, hold on, hold on, hold on. Before you get to that, why do those happen? And whose ideas are those? How do those come to be? Because we actually have a segment on this show called
Starting point is 00:37:20 Questions from Other Sports Shows. And a couple of your guys, these lower thirds, did make an appearance. And the incredible ability to tie something to the football world is almost a talent that you guys have at this point. How do you do it? Whose ideas are those? And are those the ones you guys get really pumped up on because you can really expand the thoughts on? Yeah, it's so fun.
Starting point is 00:37:41 I love those ones, Pat, because people always ask me, they'll be like, hey, good morning football, I watch you guys. Hey, I always wonder, what do you do when the season's over? What do you guys do? And we're like, dude, we have a show for six months. We're doing OTAs and workouts. We'll do an entire hour on quarterback hand size. We are in the desert
Starting point is 00:37:59 looking for the oasis. If something pops, like Stranger Things or it's freaking Meghan Markle or something, we will make a segment out of it and compare it to the NFL. And I love that stuff. So we have a great staff. As you do, young, creative people are always throwing out those ideas.
Starting point is 00:38:18 And then Peter's great with ideas. I try to come up with a bunch of stuff. And we just party, dude. It's in the offseason. The stakes are low. We didn't exactly play the divisional round last night, so you just let it rip, and that's what we do. Are you guys allowed to talk about if you don't tie it to the NFL?
Starting point is 00:38:33 Is there something said about that? Because it's interesting because you guys do have this ability to tie everything to football and the NFL. For us, obviously, we are an NFL show, but no hey we'll talk about the world sports soccer that's right okay we'll get into that hockey a little bit oh yeah we got baseball insiders all the time we're on the corner aliens aliens exactly aliens I mean we we put an
Starting point is 00:38:57 11 on 11 team with aliens at one point yeah what do you do you guys have like is there people that come and tell you what you can, what you can't talk about? And who would that person be? It would be anybody from, like, Brian Rolop at the NFL to Roger Goodell to the guy who runs the network. But, Pat, we're over 1,000 episodes in of letting us be us. And that's what they decided to do in 2016. We could easily bring in your insider, your expert, your ex-player, and your anchor,
Starting point is 00:39:25 and we can talk about, you know, what is Kenny Galladay going to get in free agency? And that stuff's all great. But in 2016, the NFL, God bless them, said, you know what? Screw it. Let's try something different. Let's bring in an outside producer and do a show in New York and have me. Like, I went on the show. I'm in the same.
Starting point is 00:39:40 I played running back in college. I'm in the same network with Marshall Falk and LaDainian Thomas, like legends. They heard me to do that stuff. So, Pat, they don't have us on a short leash. They let us do what we want. And believe me, we went big on aliens, too. Baker Mayfield tweets about aliens. There's six hours of content for us.
Starting point is 00:39:59 I'm coming up. Oh, no! Oh, no! It's a bloodbath out here, Shreds! Coming up. Oh, no. No. Oh, no. Oh, what? That's a bloodbath out here, strange Kyle. We go to the internet. Doovie Kleiman at NFL underscore Doovie Kleiman is reporting, in addition to speedy wide receiver John Brown,
Starting point is 00:40:20 the Bills also cut defensive lineman Quentin Jefferson. Oh, no. What in the street? Champagne problems, Kyle. Champagne problems. Got to make moves. You got to get under the cap. You probably got other people you need to re-sign.
Starting point is 00:40:35 When you win, they say there's enough to go around. And they're talking about money. That doesn't always mean from your organization. That means potentially from 31 other ones. Diggs, what do you have? Looks about like $6.5 million in cap savings on that one. That's big. Middle class every time. Five to 12.
Starting point is 00:40:50 That is the number. It is the middle class just getting beheaded. We're at the French Revolution again, and now we've got bills. Dove Kleinman's tweeting about it. They're falling out of the woodwork now. That Grim Reaper pad is going to get a workout. It's its own combine today. Well, Doovey, by the way. And the Grim Reaper is...
Starting point is 00:41:07 Dovee? He tweeted me and said that's my name. His name is Dovee. Oh, I didn't know that. All right. I didn't either, by the way, Kyle. And he actually spelled it D-O-V. And I was like, is that Dovee?
Starting point is 00:41:18 And then he had to correct it. No, Dovee. Okay. So I think it's Dovee. Because I follow him, too. D-O-Dovee? All right. Dovee Kleinie. So I think it's Doovie. Because I follow him too. D-O-Doovie? All right. Doovie. Sorry, Doovie.
Starting point is 00:41:31 Whoa. Middle class, this guy. Going to bat for the middle class. Hey, Doovie, get out. Wow. No, but I had the same exact situation you had, and I followed him for a while before I learned that entire thing.
Starting point is 00:41:48 Man, sorry about that, Quentin, man. Yeah, yeah. Great run up there. That's electric. I mean, he is running like, he's running wind sprints right now. Oh, yeah. That Grim Reaper. Yeah, three cone dream.
Starting point is 00:42:03 Hey, Pat. Can I ask you something? You haven't put a baker on the show today? Well, he's supposed to be on. He blew us Reaper. Yeah, three-coned. Hey, Pat, can I ask you something? You haven't booted Baker on the show today? Well, he's supposed to be on Eve. Oh, he flaked? Ha! He flaked? He's not there? He was working out. He was trying to make more money. He was working out. He'll be back on tomorrow, the next day. But yeah, we did not
Starting point is 00:42:17 have him on. Why? What do you got? You got something about Boots? Well, I was just interested. I love your approach. Were you going to sit here? Would you ask him to rehash the DK Metcalf story again? Or would you have your own spin on it? No, I did that one time, though. And the way I got to it, the way I got to it was I got to ask. That was it.
Starting point is 00:42:35 And then it was a quiet. And then he kind of started laughing and got right into it. And then he talked about the whole thing. So I would talk about it. It's just whatever pops in my head. For instance, for you, what was just about the bottom of my head was you worked for rome for a long time whenever the show was ty's favorite show oh yeah that he would listen to or watch so i've gotten a chance to learn a lot about rome as i'm in this world now the daily grind
Starting point is 00:42:58 radio tv you're in it now again you're at the real world were you just you did you always know sports was going to be your thing did Did you want to be an actor? Like, how did, because you've had a lot of success in daily sports. Rome was awesome. Still is. But when you were there, incredible. Good morning football is great. But you did, like, were you ever going to be an actor and then you just got into sports?
Starting point is 00:43:17 Or was that always the end game? And how did you get here? Yeah, I always wanted to be an actor. Like, when I was in high school and college, like, Pat, when I was was a guy who was playing football and then I was also doing plays and that was like that was what was that umbrella one celebrated what was that umbrella raincoat one there's a raincoat did you sing it in the rain no there's uh Larry Poppins Charlie in the yellow raincoat or so our high school Joseph in the amazing Technicolor dreamcoat there it is yeah our high school did that yeah I had a friend that was in that.
Starting point is 00:43:46 You were doing that type of thing? Donny Osmond. Yeah, it wasn't musical theater. It was like, I wanted to be Pat. If you look at all those guys, like Chris Evans, Chris Pine, Chris Hemsworth, all these Captain America, Thor types, I was sure that was going to be me. As soon as I knew I didn't have the ability to play pro football, I was like, I'm going to be an actor.
Starting point is 00:44:04 And then the real world fell into my lap, and I'm doing that nonsense when I got out of college, and then I'm on Days of Our Lives. So, like, I wanted to do all that. And then, like, a lot of, like, failed soap actors, I didn't become Matt Damon or Denzel. And thank God I had sports. I fell back. It was like my plan B. This is what this is. Well, I think you should have been Captain America at some point.
Starting point is 00:44:22 I know they rotate them out. Don't, hey, you look maybe better than you've ever looked right now, though, right? I mean, you're all – you're all – Pat, I'm doing the stuff that everybody hates. I'm doing the front squats. I'm lunging. Oh, wow. All in.
Starting point is 00:44:36 You're doing a problem. Yes. All up in the front. Go horizontal. Look up. For 20 years, I did push-ups and bicep curls. Now I'm doing the terrible stuff. And you know when it works.
Starting point is 00:44:47 Doesn't that feel good right now, Pat? No, no. It hurts. I'm really tired. I went boxing last night through 751 punches in one fight last night. What? I saw you swing in the six iron, too. That looks good.
Starting point is 00:44:58 Thank you. The swing is getting there. But you just decided to amplify the working out. You're not dieting differently. Football season, we all put on 30 pounds. I mean, in you through football season, you went the opposite direction. You're not dieting, doing anything differently. No, I'm totally dieting differently.
Starting point is 00:45:14 You know what it was, Pat? I saw it coming. Every football season, like if you see me at Super Bowl, I'm so heavy. Like I put on the 30 pounds because it's just too much stress. This year in September, I was like, enough of that, man. I'm getting winded walking up the stairs with my kids. I'm going to do these things differently. I started eating crazy
Starting point is 00:45:31 tons of fish and all protein powder left and right. I dropped 30 pounds, man. I looked great at the time. Hey, you do look great. Thanks. It comes back. Hey, look at you, big, handsome. Look at this handsome man. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:45:47 Got a great shirt on. It's a great shirt. I wore my shirt for you, Pat. This is, I had this made for the NFC title game, and I wore it on Good Morning Football. This is these two guys who faced off Bucks versus Packers. This guy looks like Jim from The Office, and this guy looks like Ron Jeremy.
Starting point is 00:46:03 So I wore this shirt on TV. By the way, potential similar numbers for that mustache this guy looks like Ron Jeremy. By the way, potential similar numbers for that mustache man over there is Ron Jeremy. But the fact that those two guys, by the way, are both incredible on social media and the two goats, I mean, it's
Starting point is 00:46:17 good for the league. That's a great shirt there, Kyle. We talked about him the other night, Pat. I thought he was cool. You said about Rodgers, because I know we were going to talk about Rodgers, but I asked you straight up like who was the most surprising interview that you've had in the show and you said Rodgers why did you say him well I said Rodgers uh like I told you because every week had no idea what the conversation was going to go to and it just went to different places it felt like every single week I mean we're talking aliens we're talking documentaries we're talking him dissecting plays for me that was just the most and it's obviously
Starting point is 00:46:49 because you know of how many conversations we had but that was always a surprising one and also kyle i would assume after thousands of episodes at this point with good morning football you forget a lot of episodes like whenever you ask me that question i was like man who is somebody and the first person that came to my mind i was like well it's aaron i guess me that question i was like man who is somebody and the first person that came to my mind i was like well it's aaron i guess so it is i feel like i left a couple people out in that answer but it's real whenever you have so many cool conversations with people it's hard to like kind of judge them but aaron was just fucking awesome ty what do you have kyle speaking of uh you're you know transforming your body and kind of turning things around i
Starting point is 00:47:23 think the last time you came on i I asked if you were ever going to do the real world challenge. Now that you are yoked up, is there a chance that we're going to see you beat either CT or Johnny Banana's ass at some point? How about it? Let's fucking go, dude. What are we doing? That's a fair question, man.
Starting point is 00:47:40 I'll tell you why. My no answer to that for the last 20 years has always been like, I see these shows, it's these bros in bandanas just peeking on HGH, sucker punching each other, and triple kissing on night vision cams. That's not for me. But now if I were to go in there and wreck shop and backpack somebody like CT did, that might be a cool moment for me, right?
Starting point is 00:48:01 It's good for the league. Hey, that's good for the NFL. That's good for football. That's good for everybody league hey that's good for the NFL yeah that's good for football it's good for everybody if you get in there especially got kids now okay you're going in there backpacking tackling folks running people over they do like Oklahoma drills every night oh yeah oh yeah people just like hey listen we did reality television and we will continue to do reality television no matter what you do to us okay so if we line you up directly across from each other and just have you run into each other, you'll do that?
Starting point is 00:48:28 Absolutely. Sounds good. That is an incredible recipe for success. You need to get in there. We need you. Oh, geez. What did you do? You need to move your mic.
Starting point is 00:48:39 Your mic. Oh, damn it. This is an amateur hour. Is that any better? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Thanks, Pat. Thank you. Oh! There it is. Does that make it better? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Thanks, Pat. Thank you, dude.
Starting point is 00:48:48 Did our podcast ever get uploaded? Yes. Finally. They took their sweet time, didn't they? But yeah, it's uploaded. It's on Spotify. It's on YouTube. It's everywhere.
Starting point is 00:48:55 People are making fun of your score a little bit, Pat. But, I mean, you got a five out of ten. Like, you rallied. And you got the wrestling entrance music one, like, really fast. Knew that wasn't going to happen. Happy I didn't get with the heart he had owen hart's entrance music during one run that he had as the hard option i did not i picked the medium option knew it immediately upon the first sound i think that was a much what was the easy one i didn't hear what the easy one was the easy
Starting point is 00:49:17 one was gonna be mr perfect like that because i knew you would know mr perfect love so i said easy medium or hard and then hard was our own heart. You went medium, and it was your boy Val Venus. You were all over it. And as soon as it started, I mean, as soon as that horn hits. Hello, ladies. Yeah, yeah. I actually did the hello, ladies in the thing. I stood up.
Starting point is 00:49:37 I mean, it's hard not to just immediately go to it. Val Venus doesn't get enough credit for influencing kids to do a lot of things back then. I mean, the full-on... Oh, yeah, with the towel on. He was not the first to do it, obviously. There were others before him, but... Ravishing Rick Rude. Yeah, that whole towel.
Starting point is 00:49:52 I mean, what a run for him. So good. And honestly, Pat, I didn't know a ton about Val Venis. I had to research it because I wanted to include that one. My expertise is all, like, 1990, 91, like that Rick Rude era, Ultimate Warrior and all that. So they were doing a full-on porn character during the Attitude Era. Oh yeah. Anybody could get it too.
Starting point is 00:50:11 John Wayne Bobbitt was involved in a storyline with him. It was pretty deep shit. And Jaden Jameson, I think, appeared on camera too. God, man, that was awesome. It was, wasn't it? I mean, that was those days. We're teenagers watching that stuff. This is the greatest of all time.
Starting point is 00:50:26 John Wayne Bobbitt saved Val Venus from getting his member cut off. Do you remember that? Imagine if that guy would have lost a penis. He would have lost his whole entire thing. Yeah. He stuck it in a machine or something, right? No, a samurai sword. Yeah, they were going to cut it off.
Starting point is 00:50:37 They were going to cut it off with a samurai sword. Screw the intercontinental title. Actually, what you're talking about with the machine, actually, was just classic old school penis penis cut-off sword. Connor, what do you have? Yeah, Kyle, you work for the NFL. Can you just tell us straight up, is Drew Brees coming back or what? I can't tell you, but I think no.
Starting point is 00:50:58 Listen, Drew Brees and I are like five days apart. Literally, he was born in January of 1979. How could you come back? I feel as washed up as he is. Like, I identify completely. I got to do a whole back routine before I swing a golf club. No, not a chance. And I think the fact that like Cam Jordan was out there being like,
Starting point is 00:51:16 we want Russell. We want Russell. Like, I think he knows. I think he knows what time it is. So I don't think he is. And I hope he doesn't. It's enough. Now, I don't know if Cam Jordan was like, we want Russellsell i think that's potentially a headline you read from not doovie
Starting point is 00:51:28 because doovie gets things right but he did indicate that it would be nice to have russell i think he came on our show shortly after that and i think he was tired of having to explain what he actually said but but not just cameron jordan by the way you got the mayor of new orleans spinning the umbrella spinning the umbrella dancing saying, Russ Sierra, come on down. The Drew Brees situation is a very interesting one because every day he waits, even though he restructured his contract down to a million dollars, that's them potentially missing out on something that could potentially happen,
Starting point is 00:51:57 whether it's scouting another quarterback or going to a pro day. I assume they're doing all this stuff, but it could get a lot easier, I'd assume, if Drew would be like, you know what, I'm done. Or I'm coming back. Hey, get those checkdowns in order. Start running slams. So what's the point then, Pat? Why? Is this grandstanding
Starting point is 00:52:17 or he's actually really vacillating? Does he know? It depends on who you ask. I do believe he's not 100% sure. This is a guy that I think is addicted to football. His entire life has been based around football. I think he loves football. So I think hanging it up could potentially be a little bit difficult, which has happened to many guys in the past in all sports that are at the top
Starting point is 00:52:36 that kind of hang on and don't want to give it up. I think that is it. I do feel that way. I was talking to him last year whenever it was potentially, you know, going to happen at Super Bowl Radio Row. He said a lot of that. Like, I don't – it seemed like he was genuine. But then there's also people like Ty who just think this is –
Starting point is 00:52:53 Yeah, I mean, Drew's not going to miss the opportunity to make this about himself one last time. Yeah, that's what – there's a lot of people that think that. You know what I mean? Or get, like, a credit card commercial out of it or something or, like, a Snickers commercial. Not going anywhere for a while? It could be.
Starting point is 00:53:06 That would work for him. You know, the other guy, Pat, who's not going anywhere. Is that a segment tomorrow on Good Morning Football right there? You know what? Let's do it. Which commercial would Drew Brees do to best set up his situation? Nate will say something funny, and then Peter. You're right.
Starting point is 00:53:20 We would do it. That's exactly what we would do, Pat. We probably will. Yeah. I should text the producers right now. Yeah, say, hey, got an idea. This exactly what we would do we probably will yeah i should text the producers right now yeah say hey got an idea this is what we're thinking we're just spitballing over here because that is that is a good reference though that's a good tie-in because when he retires it's going to be massive how's he going to retire if he does retire if he comes back how's he going to announce he comes back how will the reception be i mean there's a lot that goes just like the
Starting point is 00:53:41 russell wilson situation kyle you've been in the locker room. Princeton, obviously all-time lead in Russia. Let's go. Yeah. Give the guy the rock. Come on. The running back. I hate to do this, but I was all-time lead in Russia at my high school, not the esteemed Princeton University.
Starting point is 00:53:57 I wish I was. That would be Keith. That's not true. Oh, no. Oh, no. Oh, no. Oh, no. No. Princeton football has been Oh, no. No.
Starting point is 00:54:06 Princeton football has been around for like 200 years. Princeton invented football. I am not the leading rusher in Princeton football. Yeah, and I did watch a lot of old throwback videos of when Princeton did invent football. There's a lot of running in those games, you know what I mean? The first game was Princeton-Rutgers. That ball was not in the sky
Starting point is 00:54:22 a lot, so there's a lot of running. Anyways, you've been in a locker room. You get it. This Russell Wilson situation, I think going back into that locker room might be more awkward than the Deshaun Watson situation in Houston. Now, strictly the locker room.
Starting point is 00:54:36 I'm not talking about the building. I'm talking about the locker room. This Russell Wilson situation is weird, Kyle. I mean, this is not Russell Wilson-like at all. We hear they hate each other now, allegedly him and Pete Carroll. We thought they were boys. It is interesting what's going on in Seattle and in Houston, but Seattle more so, I think, for me,
Starting point is 00:54:51 is the toughest one to go back and be fully reunited at the end of this thing. I think so, too. And, Pat, like, it's never happened before. And what I mean is never happened is you have never seen an in-their-prime Hall of Fame quarterback traded. And there's no heir apparent like Rodgers and Favre. It's not like he's coming off a bunch of injuries like Montana when he got traded. It's nothing.
Starting point is 00:55:16 He's just happy, healthy, fine, and they're going to trade him? I still don't even see – I don't think they're going to. And then I saw the take that said if he's that unhappy and he's not down with pete carroll anymore you fire pete carroll yeah that's kind of the inbend then by the way that's team pete carroll started coming out in anonymous sources saying this thing and then there's that's what but that's awkward now that's immediately awkward that has been built up i assume pete car Carroll, Russell Wilson, the team can get past it, but if I'm judging awkwardness going back in the locker room, that one is at the top of the
Starting point is 00:55:49 entire NFL right now. Deshaun Watson, they're saying Cal McNair and them and Jack Easterby. What are your thoughts on Jack Easterby? NFL employee. Not good. Not good. I haven't seen Deshaun. Plead the fifth there. By the way, we're all in the same boat.
Starting point is 00:56:06 But it sounds like they're not going to move him at all. Do you see that happening? What are your thoughts on that? So if we get to the point where Deshaun is, and everything I hear is that they're like, no, he's never putting on that uniform again. It's serious. And we might say, okay, sure, sure. Wait until the checks not start showing up.
Starting point is 00:56:22 If he actually does it and he goes into the season and he's like, game check, game check. First of all, holy crap, I would never do it. I couldn't. But I think he would become like an icon for player empowerment and he would become a hero and he would change the entire game. I really mean that. If he sits out this whole damn thing, I just, it's a long way from there. Le'Veon Bell did that a couple of years.
Starting point is 00:56:44 He's the last real full-season holdout, and then he ended up getting paid on the other side. The thought that Deshaun Watson would hold out actual games, though, as a daily show host, you know, that is... Oh, man. You're talking. It's the best. I mean, think about that.
Starting point is 00:56:59 What was that? What was that? Was that a little human I heard? Yeah, I think that was 7-year-old Calvin upstairs. He was supposed to be doing his homeschooling. Hey, come on. Get back to... Oh, no. Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:57:11 Oh, no. Calvin. What? Calvin leads to another. Ian Rapoport, the rap sheet, is reporting that the Titans are... Titans. The Titans are expected to release starting safety. Kenny Vaccaro, as a cap casualty source, said he was due to have
Starting point is 00:57:26 $6.9 million next year after 83 tackles and 6 tackles for loss last year. Kenny Vaccaro's career with the Titans. What is it going to end? Dead! In the middle of his... 6.9. Bye. Hey, that's your 5-12.
Starting point is 00:57:42 5-12, man. That's the range. And you can probably drop that down a little bit for kickers, by the way. You could probably go like 3.5-12 because there's going to be a lot of kickers that get restructured, cut, and everything like that. Matt Rule is reporting that Christian McCaffrey and... Shaq Thompson. Shaq Thompson are renegotiating or restructuring their deal
Starting point is 00:58:01 to give them some more money. Christian McCaffrey, who just got paid a year ago ago restructuring now to help out the carolina panthers who have allegedly been in talks with everybody about every quarterback never would have expected that after teddy bridgewater situation masker week continues kyle by the way pat you mentioned the panthers if we were going to do a little game where we say all right who's going to make the crazy batshit insane move for a quarterback i'm putting the panthers squarely in it. I think their owner is like, screw it. I came here to make empire moves. I tell you, no, give me one of these massive, massive stars. I put the Panthers in the top two or three teams to do it. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:58:38 You think Mogul moves is popping off down in Carolina? He hopped on a plane, flew over to Baylor, Texas, said, Matt, what will it take? $70 million. Let's go. We'll go ahead and do this. Ron Rivera, see you. You're out. I'm going to do this whole thing. He wants Carolina to be a conversation piece for relevancy in the NFC South, which, by the way, is going to be very difficult with that squad there. The thought, though,
Starting point is 00:58:58 that Carolina could become an epicenter for, you know, if Deshaun goes there, Russell goes there, any of these quarterbacks go there, good for Charlotte. That city would be awesome to watch kind of blossom. But that's all it takes, by the way. That's the seismic shift that the owner from Arizona was talking about
Starting point is 00:59:13 just a week ago. He's like, hey, I think we're going to see a seismic shift. You get a couple players to go to one place. That can kind of change the entire culture, Kyle. Yeah, well, we saw the same pitch from Urban Meyer about Jacksonville. And I kind of smiled when I read it because he does this whole quote about, we got the weather and the taxes and we're going to turn this into a destination.
Starting point is 00:59:33 It was like, it was just a college recruiting pitch. It's like when you bring the guy and say, listen, we got a barbershop in the locker room. We got a popper shot. And here's these cheerleaders. He was doing a full college recruiting thing. You know what it reminded me of pop remember when um as 10 years ago mikhail prokhorov owned the brooklyn nets giant ass seven foot russian guy oh yeah and he's like we are going to turn the nets into a power and he brings in you know old ass garnett and paul pierce and it didn't work but they're
Starting point is 01:00:04 like we're gonna make to make Brooklyn cool. It's going to be a nightclub setting, and Jay-Z's an owner. It didn't work. And when I hear Urban Meyer's going to do it in Jacksonville, I'm like, I don't know, I've heard this pitch before, and I know you guys got a pool in the stadium, but we got to win some games first, man. They got two pools in the stadium.
Starting point is 01:00:18 Have a little bit of respect. They also got Trevor Lawrence coming, who could be a guy, you know, and if he is like a guy, like he's been talked about like Andrew Luck was talked about all the way through college. Andrew Luck was a guy who turned a bad team into a good team very quickly. Trevor Lawrence could do that. Now you throw in the taxes, the warm weather,
Starting point is 01:00:36 and the two pools. Come on! And by the way, we're not elite. We're on the edge. People are throwing the word elite around too much. We're on the edge, you know what I mean the word elite around too much they're edging we're on the edge you know what i mean and that's day four day five of practice urban is selling down there kyle what do you have connor yeah speaking of trevor lawrence kyle uh there's a graphic about him on the good morning football that said he's good with babies uh why was that on there and also how is he good with babies yeah what was going on i see you know
Starting point is 01:01:02 how pat's like i don't remember contestants and guests to come on. There's too many. I'm trying to think of the graphic about Trevor Lawrence with babies. I don't remember this. Remind me of it. I think it was right underneath your face, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:14 I actually have a photo of it. I'll send it to Fox. Cause I remember Pat, I asked you the other night, I go, Pat, who's the funniest guest you've ever had on? And your answer floored
Starting point is 01:01:25 me do you remember what you said you said ariel helwani which i'm sure he's a very funny guy but i picture him more of like this intrepid reporter yeah and that's what i told you he stinks on espn he's really good that's exactly what i told you is when he's on espn he stinks when he's on this show always makes me laugh don't even mention his name because he probably call in yeah now he's gonna call in and do his whole thing. He probably will be. Here is the graphic. Connor just sent it into the group. He had it on deck.
Starting point is 01:01:52 Trevor Lawrence, good morning football, two-a-days measured in 6-5-5-8s a pro day. 34-2 record in college 2018 national champion. Broke Deshaun Watson's Clemson record for wins and he's weirdly good with babies. That was a graphic that was on Good Morning Football. Right underneath Kyle Brandt's face.
Starting point is 01:02:08 Kyle, now on the show. What is going on here? See, we always try to do something different. Yeah. We try to have some sort of spinoff that breaks all this statistical minutia. I guess they found a factoid about it because I remember we did someone, I think it was his teammate, Travis Etienne Jr. And the factoid at the bottom was that when he was being recruited uh jim harbaugh told him that he should he's very good looking and should go on to be an actor so like that's
Starting point is 01:02:34 just your fun kicker so i guess lawrence is good with babies see see that's what a show that does research does there you hear that yeah we run a much, you openly said that you're not a research guy. You show up and we chat and you cut it up. Yeah, life is research. You know what I mean? Life is research. My Twitter scroll, that is a research. It's all night.
Starting point is 01:02:56 My life walking through, you know, stores and airports, that is research for me. But I wish I had the capability to do what you did. Thank you so much for having me on 10 Questions. Thank you for stopping by. We appreciate you every single morning, ladies and gentlemen. The all-time leading rusher at a high school in Chicago? North Suburbs, Chicago. Stevenson High School.
Starting point is 01:03:17 Same high school as Rex Ryan and the late Ron Goldman. Rest in peace, Ron. Rest in peace, Ron. Why didn't we give Rex the ball more? That's my only question. Or Rob. Kyle was pretty good. Yeah, or Rob. Kyle was pretty good. Obviously, he wouldn't play at Princeton, but Rex, I think you give him the ball a little bit more. Maybe there's a little bit more competition.
Starting point is 01:03:34 Anyways, host of Good Morning Football, Kyle Brandt. Thank you, guys. Most guys have tried a lot of different ways to, you know, try to last a little bit longer when making love. Think about your baseball team. That's a boring sport. That'll turn me off, right?
Starting point is 01:03:52 Yeah, absolutely. Maybe you start listing off cities and states. Maybe you start doing the alphabet backwards. Whatever you end up doing, you need to not do it anymore. Knock it off. None of it's going to work. Uh-uh. Okay? Before the time you get to the the short stop it's already happened all right that's right what you need is
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Starting point is 01:05:23 How you doing, man? Man, I am doing great, and I am so excited. AJ, good to see you again. Look at you in front of the books right there, making sure everybody knows that Ohio State, you're not just a football player. Wow. There's a lot going on there. Pat, I'm loving what you're talking about with the wines
Starting point is 01:05:44 and how our friends graduate. Don't forget our friends graduated from boxes to bottles. Yeah, you're right. Smack the bag to now what am I pairing with. You're right. That was big. That was big. And I'm a little worried about who delivered your meats and cheeses the second time.
Starting point is 01:06:04 Yeah, yeah. Because it almost makes – what was was the remember the trilogy that kevin smith did of movies with chasing amy and which mccall um mall rats was the first one okay and at mall rats you remember that jason lee wanted to get back at the girlfriend's father. Of course. And so he reached his hand down his pants first before he gave it and then touched the cookies, and the guy gets sick. I'm a little worried about who delivered that.
Starting point is 01:06:37 If there was any stinky handshakes going on with the meat that I ate, I got a problem with it. Billy Tubes. So last but not least, though, I heard you talking about the draft with the orangutan in Indianapolis. That's right. Whose name was Rocky, by the way. Which gave me one of my all-time moments of the NFL draft. I'm sitting there with Mike Mayock, who at the time was the draft analyst for NFL Network. And one great thing about Mike is he took it very seriously
Starting point is 01:07:07 in terms of each kid having his moment. Yeah. And I think the first time they went to Rocky the Orangutan, or maybe it's the sack, I can't remember, but Mike was not happy. And he said something to the effect of, if you show that chimp one more time, I'm walking out of here. So as you guys know in our business now, right,
Starting point is 01:07:32 if you challenge a producer and a director, you know they're going to come at you, right? Yeah, yeah. So immediately they showed Rocky again. I'm on the set, and I'm dying, right? I've got sweat coming off me like Albert Brooks in broadcast news. I needed a John Thompson towel at that point to pop it up because I'm crying. I'm laughing so hard.
Starting point is 01:07:53 And I'm laughing because I know how mad Mike is. And Grover Stewart, who's still playing with Indianapolis and doing a nice job defensive tackle out of Albany State, was being picked when we went back to Rocky, and Rocky does that again. And I think with my big mouth, with all my love for Mike, after he said if they show that chimp one more time, I think I opened up my big trap and said,
Starting point is 01:08:17 Mike, I think it's actually an orangutan. No. That's not what he was looking for. So anyway, I remember that time frame well, Pat. I will say this, Charles, and by the way, you put over my announcement with laughing. So I appreciate you doing what you've done. I always appreciate everything you do. You're incredible to watch along with something.
Starting point is 01:08:39 That orangutan and I have history, by the way. I had to read some ad reads about the rocky coming to town. He's a famous orangutan and I have history. By the way, that orangutan, I had to read some ad reads about the rocky coming to town. He's a famous orangutan. This thing's been in movies. Yes, really. Rocky's been in movies before. I believe he was in a music video with Fergie at one point.
Starting point is 01:08:55 Wow. Rocky. Rocky's not kind of a big deal. Rocky is. It is a big deal. Yeah. So, I mean, if you're going to get replaced by a zoo animal, it is that zoo animal, which happened.
Starting point is 01:09:06 But, Charles, as we're getting into this draft time, okay, you now commentating for CBS, not really in the draft coverage. I don't think so. I might be wrong. But are you still keeping up with it, or are you just turning your attention to next year and what's going on with all these rosters and everything like that? No, I'm keeping up with it in a big way.
Starting point is 01:09:24 So that part's not a problem for me because I work for NFL Network for the draft. So I am preparing, and it's funny that you bring it up. And you guys know this, and A.J., when he was going through the draft process, Pat, when you were going through that time, how many times did you have some draft nick say something to the effect of you know aj i've watched every play that you've you've had at ohio state pat i've watched every ball that you punted and uh most of the time we're lying yeah okay oh yeah yeah most of the time because to go back over all those plays and all that and to do it for everybody that's hard to do some people
Starting point is 01:10:07 actually get that done and they're some of the prominent preeminent people i'm not going to call out and say hey you're absolutely lying but if you analyze the amount of time and say to yourself okay if you're telling me that you watched every play of aj hawks and all other 15 top linebackers in that draft i'm gonna be like hold on i said what else do you do the play of aj hawks and all other 15 top linebackers in that draft i'm gonna be like hold on i said what else do you do the rest of your life because because that's hard to do but do you do but do you do the job thoroughly i think most people do and and we and it's all an opinion-based thing and that's what i'm working on i was watching tape today right before you guys called i was actually just watching mac jones the quarterback at alabama again
Starting point is 01:10:44 so got it hey what do you think what do you think of mac like where's he gonna go how's he gonna be Right before you guys called, I was actually just watching Mack Jones, the quarterback at Alabama, again. Hey, what do you think? What do you think of Mack? Where's he going to go? How's he going to be? You know, it's funny. I wrote down a few things, AJ, and what I saw was a lot of people want to ding him because Alabama's so good. And I'm like, okay, I get all that, but a lot of guys that play for really
Starting point is 01:11:03 good teams doesn't make them a great quarterback. But I'm watching this kid process go through reads feel pressure and he's not going to run away from a lot of stuff he's going to move from it so those quarterbacks with that good pocket presence and feeling things i watched him move from pressure and one of the things i really liked about him his feet didn't have to be perfectly set to deliver an accurately thrown football downfield. If you watch a number of games that he played, his feet aren't totally set all the time. It's not like the pocket is totally clean and he steps up
Starting point is 01:11:35 and he makes that beautiful goal-looking throw. I mean, there's plenty of times when he steps up, feet aren't perfect, and the ball comes out, and boy, it's on target downfield. I'm liking him more and more in my immediate comparison with him was matt ryan coming out of boston college because he wins in the pocket most of the time but you remember matt's mvp year guys what did he add to his game movement skills kyle shanahan demanded that he become you know a more fluid quarterback matt had to do a lot of stretching
Starting point is 01:12:06 and the whole deal right but you remember those stretch plays and AJ off the stretch here they come out and they bootleg it out I think Mac Jones can run that type of an offense and run it really well so my immediate thought is God Almighty him and Kyle Shanahan who trained Matt Ryan that year in Atlanta that'd be a pretty dynamic duo. I like this kid better now that I've seen him on tape than maybe what I'm hearing people say out there. And what everybody says about Kyle Shanahan is he feels like he can make any quarterback
Starting point is 01:12:34 like, I guess. Any quarterback. Kyle, look, let's just put it this way. Kyle doesn't lack for confidence. Well, that's good. And by the way, it's proven. It's had success everywhere he's gone basically. Listen, all of a nick mullins became a commodity cj bethard after a rough start to his career came back around and played fairly well in short spurts for him we saw what he did with matt ryan turned him to an mvp candidate in atlanta uh kirk cousins became the starter in
Starting point is 01:13:01 washington you know you know ultimately under his tutelage before Jay Gruden. So, yeah, I'd say that he's got a pretty proven track record. Jimmy Garoppolo went to the Super Bowl. Hey, Charles, which, by the way, we're talking to Charles Davis. He works for CBS and NFL Network for draft coverage, by the way. Cannot wait to see him display the amount of work he did in the film room on NFL Network talking about these drafts. Mack Jones' name has been rising quickly,
Starting point is 01:13:28 and you just got done watching film of him. Now, did you watch Trevor Lawrence as well? And do you think the fact that Mack Jones in Alabama was running an NFL offense? Sarkeesian had motion. He was reading, and everybody at the Reese's Senior Bowl was like, he picked up the offense. It was the same offense.
Starting point is 01:13:45 He was running Alabama. I think that gives him a monster head start on a lot of people, and I assume that's why a lot of the NFL guru people that are looking are like, this kid has a chance to be great because of the mental head start but also the physical contributions, right? Yeah, I think you nailed it, Pat. You mash it together because one without the other, you can't play in the NFL. You have to have both. People look at it all the times and we've seen and you guys have both known it and
Starting point is 01:14:10 you're not gonna probably name names now but guys in your locker rooms who had everything on one side but didn't have it on the other they probably didn't last very long people keep trying to get it together to me this kid has it all and it would be interesting to see what the rise is because I will tell you prior to the draft season beginning, you probably would have thought of Mac Jones somewhere near the end of the first round from 20 to 32. And you know who had a rise like that a few years ago? It was Ryan Tannehill coming out of Texas A&M. The evaluation process was like between 20 and 32 and he ended up going eight
Starting point is 01:14:46 and it turned out to be you know ultimately now we look at it go hey that's pretty darn good right this kid this kid can flat out play and he had some bumps in miami but he doesn't have them now i think mac's going to be in a very similar situation with quarterback needy teams and if we see some people jump up early in the draft, make a play at two with the Jets, if Atlanta wants to jump up to try and get their guy, what does Carolina do at eight? Mack might rise even higher.
Starting point is 01:15:15 Charles, going into the guys that are currently playing right now, a guy named Russell Wilson we all know. Team three, his crew around him has been putting some stuff out. And he and Pete, it seems like their relationship is strained. Do you think, like, I guess what are the chances that Russ is in Seattle next year? And how long has this all been brewing? It's awkward out there, Charles. It is awkward, isn't it?
Starting point is 01:15:36 And frankly, I don't know how you guys feel. I never would have thought it would get awkward between he and Pete in Seattle. They just seem too much of a match set in terms of how they viewed things went about things the enthusiasm they brought to the table every day i would say it probably started brewing you remember a few years ago when seattle missed the playoffs at nine and seven and that was the year that that was your if you go back russell wilson played through about three big time injuries never missed a snap played through about three big-time injuries. Never missed a snap. Played through. Led the team in touchdown passes.
Starting point is 01:16:08 Duh, he's the quarterback. But he also led them in rushing. And I believe had the only rushing touchdown or touchdowns on the season for Seattle. Their run game was bereft. That's when Russ started cooking. And I think once you open the door that way, it's hard for a quarterback to to go back the other way and that may be kind of the start of all of that if you look back on it but look 39 million dollar cap hit how are you gonna make that all work who's gonna be able to do that i'm not that good with numbers truthfully but i'll leave it at this i'm not as much worried
Starting point is 01:16:43 about pete carroll and rus and Russell Wilson as I am about Russell walking in and telling the offensive line, hey, you remember the show I did? Don't worry about it. That's what I was going to say there is there's a lot of shit flying that is potentially going to have some shrapnel that's going to hit some things. Now, professional locker room, okay, and a football locker room, no matter what the difference is, is guys come together. You know what I mean? Like that's going to hit some things. Now, professional locker room, okay, and a football locker room, no matter what the difference is, guys come together.
Starting point is 01:17:07 You know what I mean? That's going to happen. But I think it's much more awkward right now if Russell goes back to Seattle than Deshaun goes into the locker room in Houston. The locker room, I assume, is still rallying around Deshaun. It's the owner. In Seattle, it seems like it has gotten almost personal with his coaches too. It just seems like an interesting situation.
Starting point is 01:17:25 Ty, what do you have? Charles, have you watched any of Lance's tape? And where do you see him going? I mean, he obviously had the showcase game, but last year they were talking about him being a top five pick. And then now he's kind of dropped, but maybe moving back up. Where do you see him going? He's a big old horse, isn't he?
Starting point is 01:17:42 And I saw that Iowa stuff you had in front of you. He was supposed to play against them and the season went kaput and that would have been an interesting deal because we're always looking for the one double a guys and the first tape you pop on is how did they play against a 1a team in his career he ended up not playing against any 1a's but when you look at him in the size the frame the mechanics are off the charts. I mean, his mechanics are as good as there are in the draft. And I'm putting him up there with Trevor Lawrence or anyone else. His mechanics are beautiful.
Starting point is 01:18:15 He's a good-looking kid at throwing the football. Footwork, excellent. His ability to run the football both with power and elusiveness and speed, he'll run away from people. I like him a lot. But I have a cardinal rule, guys, and right now I'm sticking with it. My cardinal rule is if we're taking these quarterbacks in the top half of the draft and a team says to all of us, well, we're going to have them sit behind the veteran,
Starting point is 01:18:39 redshirt him a year and see how it goes, they're lying to us. And those guys are going to play by games three or four and then i always end up good you guys just wasted three or four games you might as well started it from the beginning true with this kid and only one full season and one double a and one game beyond that it wouldn't shock me at all if he could go to a team and truly sit behind a veteran for one season and then go from there. I'm not saying he couldn't handle it. But that would be the spot for me.
Starting point is 01:19:10 And Carolina, I know the owner there, David Tepper, keeps screaming franchise quarterback. You've got Teddy Bridgewater. You bring this kid in and give it a year, and then you turn him loose. To me, that would be kind of ideal. He goes to Atlanta, sits behind Matt Ryan for a year, and then you turn him loose, to me that would be kind of ideal. He goes to Atlanta, sits behind Matt Ryan for a year. To me that's ideal just because he's only played 16, 17 games.
Starting point is 01:19:32 There's a lot of quarterbacks, by the way. Mack, Zach, Justin, Trey, Trevor, and they're all allegedly going to be good. I'm excited to see which ones are, which ones aren't. Somebody's going to get it right. Somebody's going to get it massively wrong. That's just what odds say. Hopefully everybody's going to be great. I'm pumped to kind which ones are, which ones aren't. Somebody's going to get it right. Somebody's going to get it massively wrong. That is just what odds say. Hopefully everybody's going to be great.
Starting point is 01:19:48 I'm pumped to kind of watch it unfold. Connor, what do you have? Charles, can you please tell us with full confidence that Madden 22 is not going to stink? What do you think? I will. Listen, my confidence is always in the Madden people. But you know that I just yak and the smart people take care of all the rest of that.
Starting point is 01:20:07 All right? Look, I'd love to tell you that I came from MIT. But I played in Tennessee. Our view was not as much on the Madden and all the projections and all the things, the
Starting point is 01:20:23 algorithms and things like that. We wanted to know if we could line up and beat Alabama. That's where our focus was. You didn't get a scholarship to go to school, I believe. They don't pay us to school or something. Cardale Jones, hey, listen, I don't play school. I play football. I didn't get a scholarship to play school.
Starting point is 01:20:43 Oh, yeah, that's right, AJ. He went to Ohio state. Yeah. That's earlier, earlier when you said that, but you're like, AJ proving my first thought was like, he was a great dude.
Starting point is 01:20:52 He's awesome. Listen, he probably, listen, he said what a good number of us thought when we were in school, everybody, he just kind of, he just said it,
Starting point is 01:21:00 you know, you, you know, better than to actually say it. And it just got out there. And we're all sitting in those classrooms wondering about practice that day. Look, I did all the same things. I'm not Mr. Holier-Than-Dow like I didn't do it either.
Starting point is 01:21:14 Well, I appreciate the fact you sat in the classrooms. I opted out of doing that as well. Charles, the salary cap was just set, okay? $182.5 million. During your year of traveling, whenever you're calling games, you get interviews with people. Now it's Zoom calls or anything like that. I would assume those interviews aren't always just robotic interviews.
Starting point is 01:21:33 I'd assume the conversation opens up a little bit. Did you get the sense, like we're in the middle of something that Diana Rossini was texted by a coach at its masquer week. Did you get a sense that everybody kind of knew that this season with their roster they were potentially like was there any talk of like who knows what the roster is going to be next year with this entire thing did they know this was going to happen or is this kind of getting dropped on teams uh over the last month or so no no the teams were were well aware going into it because you know they project their way out they understand that and everyone knew that once we got our footing to even begin last year okay that's great now what's it going to be beyond that
Starting point is 01:22:10 and so they were already projecting out there so no i don't think it was a major surprise to the teams i think maybe for some players yes and only for this reason we're in the here and now okay we are training for tomorrow to be better that day and then the next day and the next day to make the roster to keep our spot then all of a sudden we're looking up guess what am i being tagged am i going to be released am i going to be on this team next year those things start to kick in later on so from the players that was never a discussion during the season off off off off target you know off of Zooms, other places where I talk with GMs and people, yeah, they were already projecting for that.
Starting point is 01:22:50 Yeah, it's going to get crazy, they say. Charles, every time you come on our show, you make it better. I'm very thankful for your time. You're awfully kind. No, you do. You're unbelievable. Now, I assume Madden players are hoping you do the same thing over there. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:23:04 We're all hoping everything goes well and gets better and all that. And truthfully, a lot of those things, as I said, they are over my head. But that doesn't mean I don't care and I don't want them to be great as well. I'm part of the franchise. And I want it to be great. And if it's not, myself and my brandon godden probably hear about it more than anyone else because we're the easy ones so i went off social media last august so i always tell brandon hey just let me know just how bad it is yeah it's not bad we're turning that around because
Starting point is 01:23:37 you care you're a person that you want to have we want it to be great yes we absolutely do and to put listen the people who play this game, they deserve it. They absolutely deserve it. They play this game like mad. They deserve our best efforts, and they deserve the game to be great. And I know the people really want it to be great as well. It's great for the game. It's great for the Shield, as are you.
Starting point is 01:24:00 Ladies and gentlemen, Charles Davis. Thanks, guys. Thank you, CD. Joining us now is a college football national champion and a Super Bowl champion. Wow. And a man that if you hold your nose when you jump into a pool, will smack you right in the mouth. Ladies and gentlemen, A.J. Hall. How you doing, A.J.?
Starting point is 01:24:23 I'm doing great. I will not slap anybody in the mouth anywhere, even if they hold their nose. No, because you would not want to be associated with somebody that does that. If you hit somebody, making contact with somebody that holds their nose, which you said yesterday, is your biggest pet peeve on earth, basically. It's not my biggest. It's up there. It's not my biggest, but it's definitely up there.
Starting point is 01:24:42 There was a moment you told your kids in this life that you have lived, in your child's life where you live, don't ever do what you just did ever again or I will ground you for the rest of your life. You said that because he did that. I didn't say that I would ground them, but I said we don't need to do that. We Hawks. We Hawks have the ability to be athletic.
Starting point is 01:25:02 Okay? And just turn our noses off. We Hawks have the ability to do that. Not? And just turn our noses off. We hawks have the ability to do that. Not wingtip nose footed. I did see that you, no cheeks. I did see that you, no kicks.
Starting point is 01:25:13 No kicks. I did. Yeah, no cheeks. You, you, on Twitter, were surprised to see how many people agreed with you though.
Starting point is 01:25:22 It felt like there was a revolution happening on Twitter where everybody was like, yeah, let's end this whole hold your nose when you jump into water thing. There was a lot of people backing you, AJ. I did not expect that. I thought there was potential nose holders were going to come out and be like, oh, AJ.
Starting point is 01:25:37 Instead, it was the complete opposite. It was like, yeah, we do potentially need to get rid of those people. I did not expect that. I did not expect it. Well, don't you think potential nose holders may be scared to step out there and claim to be a nose holder? So you're a bully. You're a part of the problem.
Starting point is 01:25:52 No, no, no. Someone brought up a good point. Somebody on Twitter said that person is likely to wait the full hour between their last meal and when they jump in the pool. Well, you don't want to get cramps. Smart. How did that start? to wait like the full hour between their last meal and when they jump in the pool. Well, you don't want to get cramps. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:26:05 Smart. That's real. That's a real problem. How did that start? Some dumb parent wanted their kid to wait so they could sit in the pool and drink 12 more Keystone Lights before their kid got in, maybe. Hey, Keystone, is he still around? Keystone is still hustling beer.
Starting point is 01:26:19 Yeah, legends never die. Exactly. You're right. In our legends, what they do on Earth are how you remember them after they die. And is Keith Stone ever going to die? Well said. I think Keith Stone is dead, though. I haven't seen him in some time. I mean, he came in denim, denim, denim. You remember? Oh, yeah. But you're right. I assume one. But that carried on. That was nationwide. I think that was something that really caught on pretty well. I wonder why those things happen. I assume a lot of it does revolve around the fact that parents want to make it easier to teach their kids something. If we all agree on something. That's why some people say the Bible potentially a parental starting. Like, hey, this is so we can get our kids right. You do this, guess what?
Starting point is 01:27:01 Burn forever. Like an outline. Okay. You do this, though, everything's good. Yeah, like an outline. Which, this though everything's good yeah like an outline which by the way i think is why religion is a as big as it is if i had to guess bless you maybe there's a lot of things like that man like don't touch the uh don't touch a bird if it falls out of its nest because the mom won't come back or the egg or whatever that's supposed i guess
Starting point is 01:27:19 that's a wife's tale too cross your eyes the eyes, pat you in the back, it'll stay that way. Oh, yeah. That's a bunch of bullshit, right? Let's try it. Let's try it. Somebody do it? No, don't do it, because if it happens... Oh, yeah. I'm not 100%.
Starting point is 01:27:32 I've been taught that so much that I'm not 100% sure I would have been willing to do that. I'm like, I'll let somebody else figure it out. I think I've tried it before. How'd it go? Well, I don't want to try it again,
Starting point is 01:27:42 but, I mean, I was fine. Okay. Happy to hear it. I just assume you're a parent of seven. At this point, you guys got to make up a bunch of lies, I'd assume, to keep your kids in line. Parent of four, but it's a tough thing now, though. They can figure out lies much easier than I could when I was a kid. Okay, so AJ, Massacre Week is happening. Malcolm Butler gone.
Starting point is 01:28:03 Emmanuel Sanders gone. Quan Alexander gone. Malcolm Butler gone. Emmanuel Sanders gone. Quan Alexander gone. Johnny Brown gone. Quentin Richardson? Basketball player. Jefferson. Quentin Jefferson, who, by the way, is the number eight overall ranked nose tackle or D tackle on PFF,
Starting point is 01:28:23 pass rusher or whatever, from the Buffalo Bills gone. People are clearing out cap space now that they know 182 and a half is the number for some teams. There is some rollover for others, but there's some teams in some bad spots right now, AJ. Massacre week is upon us. It was delayed a few days and I'm not sure it's going to be a week, but it has come upon us at this moment, AJ. Yeah, it has. And I guess there was a slow start to it now we're Wednesday March 10th right now so you think Thursday Friday we just can is this going to continue to happen is the Grim Reaper going to continue to come out on the show and a follow-up the Grim Reaper has made a couple great performances here is it going to continue the this means they
Starting point is 01:28:58 know the TV deals in right hmm I mean I would assume oh so that just kind of hit me there so since they set a hard salary cap that would mean that they know what the revenue split is going to be for the next year that means they would know what the TV deals are going to be so when are those numbers going to get officially released or will they ever get officially released because the numbers we did hear of
Starting point is 01:29:18 was like ESPN is paying like 2 point something billion a year somebody else is that's supposed to be a hundred billion dollar deal or I think a hundred billion dollar deal that information is going to start rolling out now that they got the hard salary cap, you would assume, unless they just
Starting point is 01:29:33 said, here's going to be the salary cap we think, and they're still figuring some things out but that's also rather large news here in the middle of Massacre Week. They have to have some kind of idea of what the range is going to be for the TV money, you would think, to be able to do this.
Starting point is 01:29:47 Are these platforms going to be able to work whenever I go over? I try to watch these UFC fights and they freeze up every time. If that happens, okay, when there's a primetime game on, I don't get to see my team, I'm going to be pissed.
Starting point is 01:29:58 Can't have it. Won't have it. That's going to happen over the next couple of years, by the way. Oh, yeah. As other platforms start getting games, there are going to be some pissed off olds that maybe don't understand technology or some platforms that fail people potentially because you know that has happened in the past as well and there is going to be pr on the backside from the nfl we are working to
Starting point is 01:30:18 blah blah blah that is going to happen as everything not everything but i'd assume there's going to be a transition into digital with these games for the next 10 years, a rather large transition into digital. So it's going to be interesting to see the NFL kind of maneuver through these times because, boy, once the UFC thing freezes on ESPN+, that trends in about a half a second. That's what, one million people probably? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:30:43 One million? They're talking 40-some million people watching games and shit like that. Imagine these platforms if that happens. There is going to be a situation, let's just assume, Jeff Bezos and the boys won't have that happen. But let's, I mean, that's something that we have to watch. Another thing you have to think about, how are they going, there's going to be so many more people trying to watch the streams illegally,
Starting point is 01:31:03 aren't they, that don't have subscriptions to these, like ESn plus like billy tubes and his buds that open pokemon cards that's all they do is stream illegal stream by the way you sound like an amateur it's discord okay where a lot of this is going on at all right i don't know it's discord for is it a place where they can get together and watch the illegal streams of sites and stuff i do believe it is that place yeah and they do it as a group almost. It's like they get to sit in like a – from what I've – my research over the last couple months of this very young upstart that is taking and captivating a lot of people, obviously. It goes in there. It streams in there.
Starting point is 01:31:37 And then there's even like comment section and stuff, I think. Team stream. Yeah, it's like a team stream where you can watch it together. So it's like, hey, I got a guy that actually gets the illegal stream. I don't even have to be the guy. You don't even have to have the boat. You got to have the guy or the lady that has the boat as a friend. That's kind of what this Discord thing is, and the NFL will handle that.
Starting point is 01:31:55 I assume Roger Goodell will shut down the internet. And for a lot of people who are not living in the city where they grew up for teams that they root for, they do that right now. If you don't want to pay for a Sunday ticket, a lot of money and stuff like that. I don't know. There's a lot of illegal streaming going on right now for the NFL. For NFL? Lots.
Starting point is 01:32:14 Yeah. Oh, yeah. Really? Probably like 95% of this office, if I'd say so. Whoa, you guys. No, no. Listen, I didn't say shit. Now you're fucking with the government, I think.
Starting point is 01:32:24 I don't do that. Team Sunday Ticket. And let's not talk about the streams. Let's just wipe that off the table. Yeah, because Connor almost got eliminated from the internet the other day. And I will never speak of it again. The hacker said, you've been warned, and I will heed his warning. I won't talk about it, dude.
Starting point is 01:32:40 Ricky Diggs kind of took it on. The COVID cowboy said, I'll go in the saloon if you want me to, talking about this whole thing. The stream saloon. I'll do this whole thing. But the thought, though, that... Ricky Gervais said this. Ricky Gervais said, I'm not out of touch, right?
Starting point is 01:32:56 Because tabloids over in England were talking about whether or not he was going to be able to remain the same comedian he's always been, which is like this relatable... They were saying he's out of touch. In his entire bit, relatable, you know, they were saying he's out of touch, and his entire bit basically was about whether or not he was out of touch or not, right? He's like, I'm not out of touch.
Starting point is 01:33:09 I'm spoiled, though. Like, you know, and it happens quick. He does this entire bit about it, and it was rather hilarious, and I related to it. It's like, I don't know if I'm not like a hard worker or out of touch with where I grew up or anything like that, but I get spoiled. I just assume Sunday Ticket everybody had
Starting point is 01:33:23 because the numbers they always pump out for that shit is so high i didn't even assume that the streaming and that's me being out of touch like a like a stooge i don't have it i don't have sunday ticket because i don't have direct tv i don't want to get a dish okay so that's me being completely out of touch with everything i assume because the way it's marketed right the way it's marketed is it's massive everybody has it i just assume sund Ticket was a very normal thing, and it was much more easily accessible. It's probably rather expensive. You probably got to be able to buy it.
Starting point is 01:33:50 It's probably difficult. That's why if Sunday Ticket was to go to a digital platform, everybody would be much happier. Yeah, that's what I was going to ask you. I wonder if part of these TV deals is like one of Amazon's big push is like, hey, we can replace Sunday Ticket so you don't just have to have DirecTV to watch all these games. Because if you, I mean, a lot of places too, like you're living it, like you won't be able to get a dish put up anyway.
Starting point is 01:34:12 Shaw, my house, listen. That goddamn dish. Yeah. But that's all that DirecTV has. If DirecTV doesn't have Sunday Ticket, they don't have a business, I feel like. Listen, we had a deal with DirecTV for like a month or so. They did pay me money. That thing stinks.
Starting point is 01:34:32 I have never suffered more, you know, fanhood pain than with that goddamn dish. It was the Super Bowl, the College Football National Championship, and I think I had like a Stanley Cup game that froze up in the middle. Just back to back to back, and I think I had a Stanley Cup game that froze up in the middle. Just back to back to back and I'd call and they're like, oh, sorry. Try cleaning it off. I'm like, who has the fucking ladder? Do I need to do it right now?
Starting point is 01:34:56 That whole thing. If Sunday Ticket moves to digital, a digital platform, man, that'd be awesome for everybody currently living. Game changer. You can watch it anywhere, especially now with smart TVs. Bezos can afford it. Fucking just do it. Hey, Bezos, for the good of all of us, man. Get it done. Come on.
Starting point is 01:35:12 And by the way, Google people. I mean, we do business together. We don't know you. You don't know us. But I want you to get in the goddamn game. Why don't you guys go get it? Put this on YouTube. Imagine if Sunday Ticket was on YouTube. Oh, man. Man. Man.
Starting point is 01:35:27 Do the right thing. And it's probably one contract away. It's probably the next contract, huh? Yeah. This last-ditch effort probably from all the old school, you know what I mean? Oh, yeah. They're like, hey, listen,
Starting point is 01:35:36 we're going to take all of our chips from the next 10, 30, 100 years we have and just go ahead and just see if we can save this. And then 10 years from now, it would all be digitalized soon. Oh, yeah. Wow. Can those get renegotiated, do you think? Yeah, I'm actually looking at it now.
Starting point is 01:35:50 The Sunday ticket rights are up soon, and it's expected they're going to go completely digital. Let's go. Yes. Go, dude. So Amazon's going to get the Thursday night package. Could they get that one as well? Sure.
Starting point is 01:36:02 They said it's not just Thursday night package, by the way. It said like a multitude of games or something was the report it wasn't just like the one game thing the way the report was written it was pretty obvious that they were saying that amazon not just one game a week they're gonna get a a few games hopefully they get sunday ticket let's go hey why not jeff jeff wouldn't even notice the thing wouldn't even notice now question for you drop in the pond. So there's other channels. Like a lake, though. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:36:26 Like maybe even an ocean. A ship. A black sea. There's other networks that have a channel that go to teams that are about to score and stuff like that. Say Amazon. And some of those guys are on their high horse and stuff like that. You're talking about the Red Zone channel? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:36:41 Say Amazon got those rights. What'd you say about that channel host red zone red zone's great would you be interested in hosting a cooler red zone uh yeah i mean it's pretty cool i don't think i've ever watched red zone channel though so i i had it on one tv i don't know what the host does what does he do he just throws around two different games uh they're happening and then like every every once in a while interject like some of his thoughts that are never good um jesus what is it it's like the live pd of football yeah real shows you all the relevant plays though it shows you all
Starting point is 01:37:17 the relevant plays around the league because you can't watch every game sitting in your basin with 36 tv yeah but you the way you're just continuing to talk about how, like, relevant plays. Okay? Like, we get it, dude. All right? Oh, I forgot. No special teams. That's why you have a hard grudge against red zone.
Starting point is 01:37:33 Okay, my bad. Bingo. And also, I appreciate football. Okay? I have a high football IQ. I'd like to see the game. You know, feel the game. I want to know what's going on.
Starting point is 01:37:43 Don't just drop in out of nowhere when there's a highlight happening and potential, you know, feel the game. I want to know what's going on. Don't just drop in out of nowhere when there's a highlight happening and potential, you know, money to be made, fantasy points to be changed. The only thing you really want to see from that game, because the rest of the game is very boring. Listen, I understand the appeal, okay, but I'm an old school guy. I want to watch the entire game. That's right. And all the games.
Starting point is 01:38:01 And maybe I do get caught up a lot, and it gets difficult to follow. But I have taken a stand against the Red Zone channel. You have to. Is that a part of Sunday Ticket? So would that go with you? No, because I have it on YouTube TV. It is with DirecTV. But if you don't have DirecTV, you can buy Sunday.
Starting point is 01:38:24 Or, I mean mean red zone on your own okay so let's let's let's brainstorm here shall we i mean it's not a great show for people but let's go ahead and brainstorm until the next until the next massacre week so let's say amazon gets rights okay amazon could then create their own red zone channel right exactly you'd be able to create your own one let's say uh the google does they could probably create their own Red Zone channel. You'd be able to create your own one. Let's say the Google does. They could probably create their own then, right? Anybody that has rights to the games could create their own. Absolutely. You just need to find a host for it. That's interesting.
Starting point is 01:38:52 It's a long day. Long day. Because there's already two Red Zone channels. Who's the guy I was talking about? Scott Hanson. Scott Hanson. I'm a Scott Hanson fan. You buried him a little bit. Yeah, you did big time. Or were you talking about Siciliano? No, no, I like Siciliano.
Starting point is 01:39:07 I mean, he put Wad on the interesting. He did. I used to love Hanson. It's just he interjects a lot now, and it's kind of Mickey Mouse. Jeez, dude. This show stinks. I don't even notice him. I watch Road to the Moon.
Starting point is 01:39:21 I mean, a lot of times I don't have the sound, but I don't notice him. I have it on mute, too, by the way. So it's like I don't listen. It's on one of the TVs. I don't have it on sound. I always have Tony Romo on sound because I'm learning football. That's right. That's why I always have Tony Romo on.
Starting point is 01:39:36 If it's not Romo, it's Daryl Moose Johnson. Goddamn right. I learned a lot this past season with Daryl Moose Johnson on the call. Yeah. What about Charles Davis? You keep him up too. He's coming. Listen, I am pumped to talk to Charles Davis.
Starting point is 01:39:51 Charles Davis always has this energy about him. Yeah. Always. AJ always has this energy about him. I'm excited to hear what he has to say. He was on the call that draft night when I came out and did my announcement. He put me over and laughed. I'm very thankful for Charles. He does a good job
Starting point is 01:40:07 calling games. He's awesome. Man, there's some bad ones out there though, AJ. Yeah, a lot of times you don't see it. You realize some games, some NFL games are only played to 2 or 3% of the country. Like the regional games that you get in your area on the local channels.
Starting point is 01:40:24 Yeah, but then there were some decisions made for some people to be a part of some games that were being seen by a lot of people. And it was like, what are we doing here? That's how it works, man. Do we not like the NFL? Are we trying to ruin the game? What are we... Who's making this decision?
Starting point is 01:40:40 What are we doing? Am I muting my fucking television right now? Am I just going to play background now? What am I doing? Am I just going to play background music? What am I going to do right now? I want to watch a game. I want to feel the game. Yeah. So then you just go to like a playlist or something that is just crowd noise and it
Starting point is 01:40:54 feels like you're at the stadium. You know what I mean? It is awesome. Yeah. You just kind of put your blinders on and just kind of put the crowd noise in there. An Oculus for your ears. Yeah. That's nice. 751 An Oculus for your ears. Yeah. That's nice.
Starting point is 01:41:07 751 punches last night, AJ. Jeez. One fight. Did you get knocked out at all? Come on, bro. What are we? There was a moment in the fourth round, though, where I had both arms down and I was playing all defense,
Starting point is 01:41:22 which I had never done because I couldn't lift up my arms, which this morning, by the way, tough time getting up, difficult time getting up. But, yeah, there was like 20, 30 seconds where it was getting a little bit sketchy. I was doing the head bob thing and then the screen went black and white and I had to throw my hand at it. And then the way I knocked him out was a throw from the ass. Like a windmill.
Starting point is 01:41:44 Like a boom, you know what I mean? He was dead tired too, I learned. So that was a good little thing.. Like a windmill. Like a boom. He was dead tired too, I learned. That was a good little thing, but I'm back in the game, AJ. I haven't seen Carl 12-11 in his Oculus ever. It's unbelievable at this point. It's been a while. I'll be back someday. It's because you've got seven kids. Let's go to Mike in Michigan.
Starting point is 01:42:00 What's going on, Mike? Hey, how's it going, fellas? Hey, not too shabby. How are you? Not too bad. Just doing a little daddy duty today, listening to the great Pat McAfee show this morning. With the boys, obviously, and AJ. And we appreciate you subjecting your kid to this show as well.
Starting point is 01:42:17 Not sure that'll win you any awards, but we do appreciate it. What do you want to talk about, Mike? First off, I'd like to give a shout-out to Mancuri and his new podcast, Real Banger of a Listen. Oh, yeah, Wrestling with Sports Entertainment, the second-ever episode. Now, Wrestling with Sports Entertainment was a wrestling podcast we put out of this show June of 2019, okay? There's a story behind this because Wrestling is now a podcast that has been created
Starting point is 01:42:41 with Brandon Walker, who I am a fan of, and I'm a fan of that podcast. So we released said show today, Wrestling with Sports Entertainment. We've had for a couple years, we already had all the pipelines built in to upload the podcast and everything. Since then, Wrestling has been created. So maybe we didn't think deep enough into that. Might have to change the name. But still, because I like Brandon Walker and them so I'm not starting there's I'm a
Starting point is 01:43:07 fan of that show I like wrestling podcast but with that being said wrestling with sports entertainment currently the name of the show great fucking show Mark Madden Mancini if you're a wrestling fan I think you should listen to this show it is a very very good show
Starting point is 01:43:23 they recorded it the other day, and the entire office just basically sat out there and listened to the entire thing, even guys that aren't wrestling fans. It's a good show. Probably going to have a name change, if I had to guess, in this entire thing, because there's no reason to do that,
Starting point is 01:43:35 even though we had the pipeline set up, and it made our jobs much easier and able to get this show up much quicker. But it's a great show. Thank you for shouting it out, Mike. I appreciate you listening to that. Yeah, absolutely. And I figured I'd keep the Green Bay team going with the calls.
Starting point is 01:43:50 And I know... No, hey, you're going to get us in shit because we get tweets that we're just a Green Bay Packers show. Yeah, what are you going to do? Well, then I have nothing. But thanks for the call. That was a good call. AJ? AJ?
Starting point is 01:44:04 What's up? Yeah. Have you seen the amount of money that some teams are allowed to spend and other teams That was a good call. AJ? AJ? Yeah. Have you seen the amount of money that some teams are allowed to spend and other teams aren't allowed to spend because of rollover cap? Did you even know this existed? I had no idea this existed until today. I also didn't know what the floor of the salary cap meant. I had to text Lombardi. He said normally it's at like 75% of what the salary cap is,
Starting point is 01:44:21 but now guys have to spend or teams have to spend 89 percent of the salary cap uh rollover cap gives a lot of people a lot more room than everybody else there's some teams in bad shape so this is a very interesting salary contract like lesson for everybody about what's going on in the nfl behind the scenes when everybody says it's a business it's a business it's a business this is what the players meant all along this is all about numbers right now moves are being made strictly because of capital it's fascinating right now aj oh it is yeah the rollover cap like i knew it was a thing i just never really understood how they work it out how how it happens but think about when you think about how these teams try to get creative you're under the cap it's crazy like the
Starting point is 01:45:03 avoidable years they can put on the end of a deal so they can spread everything out. Yeah, you have to be a math wizard, I feel like, if you want to be a cap guy for one of these teams. Yeah, and the cap guys, by the way, they probably are math wizards. And then Uncle COVID comes through and they're all like, hey, we've got to win it this year because every contract we set up going forward was meant for a you know the curve
Starting point is 01:45:26 that we were talking about with kobe we we thought that curve was going to continue to go we are in trouble if that curve goes away and they're like well took a lot less than two weeks they halted that curve quickly with these finances yeah can't thank you enough for choosing to listen to the show the fact that you do we are eternally grateful tomorrow more massacre week more news more conversation more hopefully above average podcast for you to listen to the fact that you commit time out of your day to listen to us we are eternally grateful for if you're a friend of the show and you like the show please tell a friend about the show say the pat mcgree Show 2.0, not too shabby.
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