The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 372 - Massacre Week Comes To An End, Budda Baker, Ian Rapoport, Tom E. Curran, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: March 12, 2021

On today's show, Pat and the boys react to a few more restructured contracts and cuts, and put a bow on Massacre Week in the NFL as we approach the start of free agency. Joining the show is NFL Networ...k Insider Ian Rapoport to chat about some of the things he expects to see in the coming days, what these voidable years at the end of contracts mean, and why he never has his light turned on when he's on the show (23:23-37:34). Next, NBC Sports Boston Insider, writer, and friend of the program, Tom E. Curran joins the show to chat about Cam Newton resigning with the Pats, his relationship with Bill Belichick, if he thinks the Pats are going to be a popular landing spot for free agents, and what he thinks they're going to do in the draft (39:06-54:51). Later, Joining Pat and AJ Hawk is 2x All-Pro, 3x Pro Bowler, Arizona Cardinals Safety and friend of the show, Budda Baker to chat about his offseason plans, whether or not he was shocked about JJ Watt coming to the Cardinals, his mentality on the football field, if he likes watching old tape of people, what he thinks is going to get the Cardinals over the edge, and much more (59:11-1:13:05). Later, Pat and AJ chop it up and chat about some of the things making waves on the internet as they send you into the weekend on this Feel Good Friday (1:14:29-1:31:47). Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow and listen every day on Mad Dog Radio, Sirius XM Channel 82. We appreciate you all for listening, come and laugh with us, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello! Feel Good Friday, March 12th. You're gonna like today's show, I think. It is a perfect vibe setter going into a weekend, don't you think, Ty? Yeah, I mean, it's literally the definition of a Feel Good Friday. The end of Massacre Week, and I do believe Massacre Week is gonna have a little bit of a hangover into Monday and Tuesday, because teams are still gonna be able to make moves before the league year starts on Wednesday. We did break some, you know, show news today. Yeah, unfortunate, really. The ESPN, you should stick around for that. I think you'll enjoy the announcement.
Starting point is 00:00:30 It is ultimately big picture. Good news for... This particular office. This particular office. Yeah, yeah. I will miss our friends over there, though. Oh, yeah, without question. We kind of just gave away what the announcement is.
Starting point is 00:00:44 Nope, nope, you have to listen to hear it all right let's get to the show there are some news happenings coming out of the nfl world there's cam newton has signed back with the new england patriots on a deal that's up to about 14 million dollars they are saying one more year for cam newton as a new england patriot we'll talk about that a lot today, I'd assume at some point. Tom E. Curran of NBC Sports Boston will be joining us to hear what New Englanders think about this Cam Newton signing because we have a Boston stooge in the studio, and I'm not sure his opinions reflect that of everybody else up there, but this seems like a good move and seems like all Patriots fans are relatively thrilled with this decision because they didn't think Cam Newton had a chance to even win last year got there late team had nobody bunch of ops opt-outs now we got Cam Newton back will they build that team with the free
Starting point is 00:01:35 agency money that they have that starts next week I'll be excited to see but if New England Patriots start to win again you know what that means for all of us. Patriot fans are back. And when Patriot fans are back, everybody in the sports world seems to be a little bit frustrated with it. We'll talk to Tom E. Kern in about 21 minutes about that whole happening. Tom Brady has restructured his contract, saving $19 million for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, who just signed Devin White to a deal. And also they are making deals happen on a daily basis. I guess the cap guy down in Tampa Bay is an actual wizard. I talked to some people that have worked down there and have some thoughts down
Starting point is 00:02:10 there and they're like, wait till you see what this guy does. He's going to save 19 million with Tom. He's able to sign back Chris Godwin on the franchise. He'll do this with White and wait until you see what he's going to keep everybody down there, including Shaq Barrett somehow. Leonard Fournette probably going to make money somewhere. Good luck to him. He deserves it. Hell of a run. Maybe he goes back and we get a chance to really watch him continue to build in that Bruce Arians offense with Tom Brady. But it feels like a large majority of this Tampa Bay Buccaneers team is going to be back
Starting point is 00:02:35 and they're even going to be able to make some more moves. They were just over the cap a day ago. Now they're very much under the cap. Speaking of the cap, this week, $182.5 million was the salary cap. That led to what some people had predicted was going to happen and something that we have really much not enjoyed but have had to happen here. And hopefully today will be the last day of this, but we should look back on the week that was in the nfl for us masker week oh no
Starting point is 00:03:07 it all started with a tweet by an espn nope sorry an employee that works at a worldwide leader who happens to have the name of diana russ. It all starts with a tweet from her that said she was talking to a coach and he described next week as going to be a massacre with the salary cap, with players getting cut. And that was no lie. Cal Van Noy was released just hours after that tweet was put out. Then that continued in onslaught. The Saints started cutting everybody.
Starting point is 00:03:44 Just this morning they cut somebody to save money because these teams who had spent and spent and spent finally ran into their makers. Whenever you kick the can down the road and make deals bigger on the back end of contracts because you're expecting the salary cap to grow so you're expecting your team to be in a much better place. And Uncle COVID comes through and drops an elbow like Macho Man Randy Savage.
Starting point is 00:04:13 Oh, yeah. Great impression. They start firing people, cutting people, have to get under the salary cap. Names that we had never projected to be released from their teams this early were cut. We're hoping today is the last one, but it wasn't just football where players or people were cut. Jobs were ended. Careers potentially over.
Starting point is 00:04:34 And it wasn't just because the salary cap. There was a couple other things that died this week too, huh? Oh, yeah. We're talking the internet made them. I'm not dead! Burger King took a little trip in Massacre Week. Oh, no. Headline reads,
Starting point is 00:04:50 Burger King apologizes for women belong in the kitchen tweet. Oh, no. Never want your company associated with that Burger King. Potential victim of Massacre Week as well. When negativity starts to happen in the NFL, it oozes into other places.
Starting point is 00:05:11 That's right. Papa John's died again. Oh, no. Again? Man. This guy's a cat, might have nine lives. He died again this week. Headline reads,
Starting point is 00:05:23 Papa John's former CEO says he's been working to get rid of this N-word in my vocabulary for 20 months. Jeez. Bad guy. Oh, no. Dead again. That might be the dumbest thing I've ever heard in my entire life. And listen, I vetted it. We were thinking, hey, maybe he's talking about the association with his name.
Starting point is 00:05:49 No, no, no. He's been trying for 20 months. Did he have family members come out and say, you should have seen him nine months ago? Nine months ago, we would have never thought we'd be where we are right now. You should have seen him 10 months ago. Wow. You think we would allow him to do an interview No way
Starting point is 00:06:07 That thing was coming Too hot There was too much hate coming out I've worked 20 months now 20 months There's been some ups There's been some downs There's been some relapses
Starting point is 00:06:16 But here I am 20 months after that thing Bad week for Papa John again When we didn't even know that was possible for him No Thought he was just kind of Thought he was dead Thought he was done. Dead.
Starting point is 00:06:26 Did it again? He wasn't the only one, though, by the way. No. The Royals. The Royal Family. Oh, jeez. Yeah, this happened.
Starting point is 00:06:35 I don't know if you... Headline reads, Megan reveals concerns within Royal Family about her baby's skin color. Never, never thought that headline would exist. That happened this week. Now, William, who is the brother-in-law of the person who told the story
Starting point is 00:06:53 about her baby's skin color potentially being questioned, he came out and said, hey, listen, know what has been said out there? We are very much not racist. Not racist at all. Not racist at all. Cleared all cleared it up don't ask any questions they're potentially dead which nobody could have expected nope wait to hear this one lenny myers what's myers myers this guy's dead oh man lenny here's the headline he big myers leonard uses anti-semitic slur during live stream can't do it nope can't have it massacre week did a lot of things it exposed some
Starting point is 00:07:38 terrible exposed some terrible things oh yeah it got a lot of people that are just hardworking dudes trying to live their dream fired. Massacre week also exposed us to a terrible loss by West Virginia that potentially cost me $10,000. Right in the middle of an interview with Jordan Poyer. So what I'm saying is this is the last day of that week. So let's remember that as we go into the weekend. That when we go into next week, hey, it's money time.
Starting point is 00:08:10 Things are going good. Free agency is happening. Money is getting paid to people. People are getting hired. Stadiums are going to be filled, I guess. How's that going to go? We don't know. We're all going to win every single bet in March.
Starting point is 00:08:24 I mean, it's just, hey, this is the last day of Massacre Week. Let's go? We don't know. We're all going to win every single bet in March. I mean, it's just, hey, this is the last day of Massacre Week. Let's go ahead and get through this. There will be more names released, I believe, during today's show. I feel like the Grim Reaper is going to come and go every once in a while because this is really the last work week, even though they'll work into the weekend,
Starting point is 00:08:39 before the legal tampering period into free agency frenzy. There's a lot of salary cap situations that have to happen before the league year starts next Wednesday. So look for things to happen today. Look for some conversations. And hopefully we'll have some of your phone calls. 1-888-MADDOG6.
Starting point is 00:08:57 Ian Rapoport will join us. And Buda Baker, who was supposed to join us a couple days ago, will join us in the third hour. Nice. If he's not working out. If he's not working out. Buda Baker, who was supposed to join us a couple days ago, will join us in the third hour. Nice. Ha! Maybe. If he's not working out. If he's not working out. If he's not earning that highest paid safety paycheck that he does every single, we will
Starting point is 00:09:12 hopefully talk to Buda Baker. Now, I haven't really been able to look this direction, okay, because while I was speaking about Master Week, doing my thing there, we have something absurd in this particular studio, okay? So Ty's here. What's up, Ty? Doing good. How you doing? Hey, I'm about ready for Massacre Week to be over. Me too. I mean, I'm trying to figure out
Starting point is 00:09:32 what the Packers are going to do here. The Saints are all of a sudden under the cap. Packers still need to restructure a few things. I want to know how much money we have going into free agency. But as Massacre Week comes to the end, I'm starting to divert my attention towards the Hawks, who are flying high tonight at 9 p.m. Lucas Oil baby Lucas Oil Iowa Hawkeyes do you remember how much money I lost on this Hawkeye team whenever time would come in to what
Starting point is 00:09:57 the first 10 games of the season thousand hey come on listen. Tonight, Hawks don't lose, baby. That's what you used to say. Tonight, Hawks flying high, baby. I lost so much money on this thing. No, you didn't. I lost so much money. We all did. We all did.
Starting point is 00:10:14 We paid attention to Hawkeye basketball for the first time ever because you were doing it. Guess what was happening? Money was just flushing out of the account. Well, if you've been listening to me lately, I believe the Hawks have won seven of eight so yeah exactly so they're hot at the right time they're the three seed in the big 10 the best conference in in the nation i mean i'll tell you what i don't know what i believe i got the hawks at plus 1800 to go to the final four or the national championship i mean i'm sure that's much lower now because they have been looking so damn good and soaring so high. But, hey, maybe sprinkle that with West Virginia, you know, kind of choking.
Starting point is 00:10:50 West Virginia yesterday, that was tough. By the way, shout out to Jordan Boyer, handing himself like a professional while I was watching $10,000 slip away after two pump fakes. Only one. Just fucking shoot the thing, kid. You're a great shooter. And hopefully this moment will carry McNeil into the big dance.
Starting point is 00:11:10 Yep. Where we're still probably a two seed, okay, because of how damn good we were all season. And hopefully that kid will just start letting them fly. And hopefully when he starts letting them fly, they start going in. Because if they're not going in, Huggins pulls his ass out and we don't get to see the kid shoot at all. And we need a three-point shooter on that squad.
Starting point is 00:11:25 Bad. Culver's unbelievable. He had to get fucking IVs yesterday. Yeah, what was going on? What's going on? Huh? Huh? We're not going to pee the light over there for the day?
Starting point is 00:11:33 No kidding. Can we do something? They'll be back. Okay, and I'm betting on Iowa tonight again, okay? That's what I'm talking about. How much are they favored by? I believe as of right now, they are minus four against Wisconsin. Okay, that's no problem.
Starting point is 00:11:44 I'll get into that. I just got into a minus nine thing with Michigan because Connor told me it was a goddamn luck. Michigan currently down nine right now. We're down 18 on this thing. And you got no problem with this at all, huh? You just feel good. This is the thing about March Madness. We talked about this earlier in the week.
Starting point is 00:12:00 It was scattered amongst Master Week conversation. March Madness is classic bet on people you didn't even know exist then. That's right. I hammered Georgia last night. Live bet plus 11.5, hammered them. You know why? Because I remember they got Tom Crean down. Tom Crean, he's coach at the Hoosiers here.
Starting point is 00:12:20 I had never seen Georgia play basketball. Not a one time. The fact that they were getting 11. a half points that early into the game means they probably stink as a team. And the first thing I remember, oh, Tom Crean there. I'm betting on him. If I see USC playing, I'm like, oh, Reggie Bush, he was so good. I'm betting on him.
Starting point is 00:12:36 You have no idea. It is fantastic right now. It is a great time to be a sports fan. It is a great time to be alive. And that leads to this. There is the most ridiculous thing i've ever seen okay rape for show starts moon man walks in here alleged dresser and ladies and gentlemen welcome to the new uh covid cowboy tone did what is that, dude?
Starting point is 00:13:06 I'm sad, Pat. Why are you sad? So, like, I always got the Jujubees defending Juju. He's always been great on the field. He danced on some logos, which bothered me and stuff like that, and danced during the cadence of a playoff game when we were losing to a team that we've never lost to before. I get that.
Starting point is 00:13:31 You defend the guy you like, the guy. Yesterday, I said something along the lines that Juju doesn't respect the blue-collar workers of Pittsburgh and the steel workers that built that city. You did say that. Now, as soon as you said that we all said whoa whoa whoa and i just don't get it i mean those same jujubes love going to their brunches on mount washington and then taking the incline down to chauncey's in the strip a lot of of inside Pittsburgh jokes here. This will do well in Pittsburgh. Having themselves a good time. You know, walk across a Clemente to a nice Buccos
Starting point is 00:14:09 game. Who do you think built that bridge? The steel workers. You're damn right. And now those jujubes are disparaging steel workers that built that great city. Are you kidding me? That built this great country. What? I never in my 33 years on this planet, of those years being in pittsburgh
Starting point is 00:14:29 thought that i would have to defend the steel workers of pittsburgh but here you are the blue collar workers of pittsburgh is the cowboy dead but here we are bro that thing as you were talking it was sliding the entire time oh the accent comes back it's just a sad
Starting point is 00:14:55 day that we've been we've been divided between the jujubes and the blue collar of Pittsburgh and we can't... It's just unbelievable. It is, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:15:10 That will come to an end soon when he leaves. Oh, okay. One final dagger. We'll go back. So that's a bee suit there? Is that what you have on there? Yeah, it's a beekeeper suit.
Starting point is 00:15:27 Is that a real one? Yeah, yeah it's real i walk outside right now fuck with a bunch of bees if i wanted to fucking whole mess of bees so wouldn't bother me right this has been in a war on the internet okay and this is not his first battle with this particular uh army that he is going against the juju bees the juju smith schuster fans because digs even though i'm not sure that everybody that is his size shape age and build would fall on the old school fans like team in this entire thing about juju but digs has become the mouthpiece basically one of the mouthpieces now listen we know mark bad is definitely in there as well. He does it in a different way. Now, Diggs feels as if he is actually one of the mouthpieces, though,
Starting point is 00:16:11 of those steelworkers. Not just them, by the way. I'm not saying, believe me, Diggs might say it right now, but Diggs did not start this as a voice for the steelworkers. Yeah, you did. My father, blue collar, water authority, municipal worker. Okay? Your father, blue collar, truck driver. Damn right.
Starting point is 00:16:33 I mean, 95% of that city is blue collar. Okay? And that's who you were speaking for. And then there's the hospitals, which blue collar in my book. Blue collar city. Hey, front line. I just don't understand what's happened. Anyways, so he
Starting point is 00:16:47 represented those people that hated Juju's antics. And Juju has his fans, followers, obviously he has a massive brand, and he's a good football player who puts up good numbers for the Steelers. There's been a war, a real war. And this is not Diggs' first time, but this is the first time that he decided to bring
Starting point is 00:17:03 in a prop. And I want to let you know, Diggs, I appreciate what you did. I just wanted, I felt there was no way, because people thought I was kidding on the internet. And I thought this beekeeper suit would, hey, I'm real. Like this is a real battle. You're right. Okay. Hey, you're right.
Starting point is 00:17:22 You are real. You are real. Serious as serious can be. Yeah, dude. That beekeeper suit, you know, helps you in this thing. It does. Okay. Hey, you're right. You are real. Hey, you are real. Serious as serious can be. Yeah, dude. That beekeeper suit helps you in this thing. It does? Yeah, yeah, for sure. All right.
Starting point is 00:17:30 Well, good luck. Are you wearing that all day or just until the battle ends? We'll see. Are you currently in a battle right now? Yeah. What is it? Just tweets back and forth? Do you ever do research on the jujubes?
Starting point is 00:17:41 Do you go into their profile, try to look through previous posts of them, find photos of them? A lot of filters. You do that? of them a lot of filters you do that yeah a lot of filters so you're saying so you're saying they're fake actually because they're questioning your authenticity and your first things like a lot of filters over there a lot of filters pat what is it just gamers that mostly hate you i don't know i don't get it i just don't get it. I just don't get it. Trying to protect the city. Bro, there was a Steelers blog this morning that just quotation marks, wrote out a quote, and then put dash, basically, this guy. And it was basically Diggs says Juju's the worst human on earth.
Starting point is 00:18:18 And it has become quite a day for Diggs on the internet. Have you guys seen his internet? Oh, yeah. He needs that, too. I ordered a frame of that tweet. It's going to be hanging in my fucking office. Oh, you should sell it, NFT. Yes.
Starting point is 00:18:32 Yeah, you should think about it. People are selling tweets now. Something about it. Feel good Friday here. Let's go to Brian in North Carolina. What's going on, Brian? How's it going, Pat and the boys? Happy Feel Good Friday. Hey, feel good friday to you as well
Starting point is 00:18:46 brian um where are you in north carolina i'm i'm from uh newport north carolina on the east coast down by the the beautiful atlantic ocean oh okay out there by the atlantic ocean there's sharks out there right you got a lot of sharks out there yeah there is you gotta be gotta be careful gotta be on your toes i was on i was at a beach once in carolina for a wedding and uh of sharks out there? Yeah, there is. You got to be careful. You got to be on your toes. I was at a beach once in Carolina for a wedding, and I was out there, you know, feeling the waves. Probably just pissing, to be honest with you. And there was people yelling on the shore to get in, you know? So we go running in. Shocks just swimming along.
Starting point is 00:19:20 Like actual good-sized shocks just swimming around. No thanks. Can't fuck with the real oceans over there. No, no way. Can't do it. They got real things in there that will really kill you in there. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:30 Hey, watch yourself. Don't go, don't go out in the shark week. Brian, what do you want to talk about? Oh, all whites.
Starting point is 00:19:36 By the way, I got a quick question for you. Why, when you're watching an NFL game, why does, why do they always talk about the defense being tired and not the offense? They're running the same amount of plays. Substitutions. Why, why do they always talk about the defense being tired and not the offense? They're running the same amount of plays. Substitutions. Why is the offense not tired?
Starting point is 00:19:56 So Brian, it's substitution reasons. So obviously once the offense subs, the defense is allowed to sub as well. And that's why they stand over the ball and everything like that for that entire thing. But a lot of your key positions, corner, safety, linebacker, those guys you add a corner in, drop out one linebacker, but a lot of the guys, core guys, are in all your packages strictly because you don't have a lot of guys that are at that athletic ability that can keep up with wide receivers. So whenever they talk about people getting tired, and I might not be the perfect person to ask, we'll follow up with A.J. Hawk in the third hour who has actually lived it.
Starting point is 00:20:23 But I think the thing is the key guys you can't take out. So while the offense is – now offensive linemen, you talk about offensive linemen being dead-ass tired. There is that conversation to be had. But at skill positions, aside from quarterback, normally they're kind of come-and-go type situation. You learn about wide receivers who have like 98% of the reps or something like that, and that is always, by the way, highly appraised.
Starting point is 00:20:46 Like, look at this. They did 98%. That's insane because they're running goes and all that shit. And then if you look at most of the corners in the league who are running alongside of them and then they have to get back up, they're up there as well. So it's very impressive. I could never do it, obviously. Wide receivers, every single practice is a track meet, though.
Starting point is 00:21:04 So they get it day-to-day worse than the corners, I think. But in the games, those corners, safeties, they just got to run all day. And you got to react. And if you get beat one time, it's potentially game over and you're the worst. And still have to come up and play the run, too, and, you know, mix it up a little bit. And then people go after corners who don't tackle that call. He won't tackle or whatever. It's like, man, if I had to run five miles a game and this guy is, what,
Starting point is 00:21:27 70 pounds heavier than me, maybe I will just – this is my guy. Okay, he's not doing anything. I'm not doing anything. You see, they call it, you know, like brother-in-law. Hey, don't brother-in-law out there or whatever. It would be very hard not to. Like there's been a couple guys after I've made a few tackles where they run up to me and you see them like on kickoff returns
Starting point is 00:21:45 where they're looking at me and you can see they're like are we blocking or are we we're good we're good we're good are you trying yeah we're good we're good we're good yeah yeah yeah we're good we're good we're good we're good we're good we're good that's why you know I believe I forget his name the guy from Denver he's a good dude hilarious dude I've had interactions with him on the internet since then. The guy who was supposed to block me on that trip. Jacob Tamme. No, it wasn't Jacob Tamme. It's another guy, but new Jacob Tamme.
Starting point is 00:22:09 He was a tight end. Oh, I should know his name. I am a bad person for this. He's a really good dude. Anyways, at the end of my tackle against Trinden Holliday, you see him on film go like this, because I do believe I broke a very much unwritten rule where I think I set up potentially that we are,
Starting point is 00:22:24 we're good, we're good, we're good. And then I hit a spin move on. Got him. It was maybe the most athletic thing I've ever done, which is kind of fucked up now, you know, hindsight. And I think that is what his and I interactions have been since then. So I kind of broke that code, I think. Yeah, but you got to do what you got to do.
Starting point is 00:22:40 Yeah, but that's what everybody says. But then you're kind of ruining the brother-in-law thing where there is some agreements that are made on field by people. So, like, for instance, the next two years after that, there was people coming to try to kill me. So there's a lot of, oh, my God. Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Okay, so we're not.
Starting point is 00:22:54 We're not. And then, like, a backwards run, you know. Like, okay, we're – You got me. Okay. Because you see linebackers take blocks on and then just shed them. I tried that a couple times. How'd it go?
Starting point is 00:23:05 It just – it doesn't work out like it looks like it should. You know what I mean? Because you've got to punch and then move. It's a violent thing. I tried to do it one time. I thought I broke my fingernail. I just went down his whole jersey. Didn't move anywhere.
Starting point is 00:23:20 But I broke that rule. Joining us now is a man that's in the game with the NFL. But I broke that rule. thousand dollars in West Virginia lost live while talking to Jordan Poyer. Now I bet nowhere near that amount of money on Michigan because I knew beforehand that Foxy was betting alongside of us. That game might end at some point here. I might have a reaction. I am listening to what you're saying because I have a lot going on in your world that I need to know. So I might be distracted is what I'm saying. Yeah. I mean, this sounds like when I'm talking to my wife and she suddenly looks down and she's going, uh-huh, uh-huh. And I'm like, what do you think? And she goes, yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:07 I'm like, you have no idea what I said, right? She goes, I'm sorry, what's up? Hey, that's a moment on the other side, though, by the way, with your wife. If you look down at your phone. Whoa, whoa. No, no, no. I've never done that. Well, I'm saying, look, I have, okay, obviously, with my wife.
Starting point is 00:24:22 And I'll look down at my phone for something, something will happen, and she'll be speaking. We're in a conversation when she gives the, what was that? And then if you don't get it right, like, I feel like that is like a real, I feel like that's a real test. You know, like that's a real moment there where your brain like, okay, okay. If we don't get this right, like can't do this because you are disrespecting your wife then at this point. So then it's like, get this right. Can also maintain potential things that have to happen right now. Let's go ahead and really think about this. And it's like, I agree with what you're thinking about, insert name of object you're talking, tell me more.
Starting point is 00:24:54 And then just go in there. It's like, that's a big deal. That's not happening here, though, Ian, okay? I'm dialed in. We're in the middle, at the end, I'm sorry, we're at the end of Massacre Week here. A lot of players getting cut, restructuring of contracts, everything. Have we missed anything today?
Starting point is 00:25:09 What do you think is potential moves that we should look for here? Seems like a lot's getting done on this Business Week Friday. Yeah, I mean, it seems like this is sort of the, I hate the word, calm before the storm because it's actually pretty busy, but it's everyone's getting their house in order, right? So you're seeing a couple players cut, a couple teams are redoing contracts to get some cap space, like Tom Brady signed a new contract this morning in his seven jersey and then said he wants to win eight.
Starting point is 00:25:35 He said he would have to get a new sweatshirt, but whatever. So he got his thing done. Patriots get Cam Newton done. It's everyone just kind of setting themselves up for free agency and making sure that their house is in order. There's a couple more things that will probably be happening later today. But I think we got the most of it. Who?
Starting point is 00:25:55 Oh, just, you know, it's not a big deal. How long are you guys on until? Three. It could happen before then. Oh, yeah. Come on But you'll be like Oh okay that's a thing
Starting point is 00:26:09 Well I'll tell you what there's been a couple things That you have done that too That's not a thing But then there's been some where you've gone And we're like oh that's a thing Do you think What are the reactions you think Do you think it'll be above our massive disappointment we've had for you before?
Starting point is 00:26:27 Or it will be above that? No, it's a real thing. It's a real thing. I don't think you'll be disappointed in my reporting. I think you'll be like, okay, he mentioned something and this is something. There's going to be a lot of somethings the next week or so. This will be one of those somethings. Okay, at what point do they have to have all the somethings done?
Starting point is 00:26:46 At what point do they have to be below the salary cap? Because there's all these accounts that have an active total on what the salary cap is and what it could be. We know $182.5 million, but with other teams and everything like that, when do they have to be under, and how do we know? Can we get a victory trophy maybe for some of these teams whenever they get under there? Like, congratulations on figuring it out, even though you had to cut half your roster.
Starting point is 00:27:12 I mean, when the Saints do it, I think everyone will be like, all right, like, great job. That will be a moment. That will be a moment. They got to be under by the start of the league year. No one's ever over because everyone does it. They got to be under by the start of the league year. No one's ever over because everyone does it. And I, you know, every year I kind of wonder how much to actually care about this because it always gets done.
Starting point is 00:27:36 But restructures do matter because it gives you less space in the future. And it means you can't do as much in, you know, this year and maybe next year in free agency. So, like, it does matter. It's not like the salary cap is fake because at some point the credit card bill becomes due. So I do pay attention to it, but there's a lot of inside baseball stuff that's going on now that I think most fans are kind of like, all right, can you just tell me who I'm signing? Bingo. The inside baseball things, I think, are what we're seeing happen with these voidable years and everything like that.
Starting point is 00:28:03 I was in the league. I've been franchised to act, voidable years and everything like that. I was in the league. I've been franchise tagged, signed a deal, everything like that. I feel like I was pretty relatively in on what contracts could look like with escalators and all that shit. I have no idea what these voidable years are. What is this and how does this go again? Is this just them kicking it down the road? Are they inevitably going to have to fix it?
Starting point is 00:28:20 For instance, Tom Brady has like three voidable years at the end, but his salary cap number drops $19 million because they just move it to then. How does that whole thing work, and has this always been around? It's been around. It hasn't been necessary for most teams. Like the Saints have always done it, but it's basically you sort of kick the can down the road for a couple years. So here's what the Bucs did in my simplest way I could possibly explain it.
Starting point is 00:28:43 They extended Tom Brady one year, so that means he's under contract for two years now total. They added three voidable years at the end, which are five years, but the three years are literally fake. They don't exist. He will never play under that contract for those three years. Then they gave him a signing bonus. So he spread the signing bonus out over the five years, even though the three years are fake, you can still count it for salary cap purposes so you spread the salary cap over and you lower his cap drastically wow this year i think they saved almost 20 million dollars against the cap eventually they're going to have to settle that up essentially and it's like running a bar tab like i'm sure you did in college
Starting point is 00:29:21 um and probably right now when, whenever people go to bars, at some point you got to pay. And at some point the bucks will, but it's not going to be right now. So voidable years, those last three on the end, there's a lot of people doing that right now. If Tom was to, I'm not saying he's going to, okay, I hope he plays for another 10 years, but let's just say for the sake of this conversation, if Tom was to retire after these two years, would those three voidable years that are against the salary cap still maintain? Would they still have to pay that are against the salary cap still maintained with, would they still have to pay that money against the set?
Starting point is 00:29:47 Would that be dead money then? Yeah, they would, that would be dead money, but the bucks are smart and teams are sort of really getting into this. So what they would do is they would reach a deal with Brady, kind of like the saints did with drew breeze, where you reduce your salary,
Starting point is 00:30:00 you add years to the contract and then you spread the cap it over several years. So they would do something contract-wise with a player who's retiring to make sure that the cap hit doesn't all come at once. That's salary cap people diving deep into the rules, huh? That's what they're doing there? Yeah. I mean, these are the
Starting point is 00:30:17 kind of things that when I try to explain it, I always mess it up, but I think I may have gotten it right. All right, got a point! Ian did ask for a round of applause there, which we do appreciate because that made me understand it, and I had no idea what was going on with these
Starting point is 00:30:33 avoidable years, so hey, good job, Ian. Way to go. That was awesome. That was really... Diggs. Hi, Ian. I'm looking at your Twitter right now. What is happening right now? I'm sorry to interrupt.
Starting point is 00:30:47 Why do you look like that? Well, it's a beekeeper suit, Ian, because the fans of Juju Smith-Schuster are the Juju bees, and they were attacking me, so I had to buy a beekeeper suit. Makes pretty much a lot of sense if you think about it. Yeah, I'm with you. I think it's – I'm a little disappointed that you didn't just have one, but I guess the fact that you got one means now you do.
Starting point is 00:31:09 Yeah, good call. I mean, it got here relatively quick, though, I think, after hearing the stories. We do have a beehive on the next property we are moving to, so this will be used on more than one occasion. And this is not his first battle with the juju bees. He has been here before, which I believe is going to lead to this question yes i saw what do we got on your twitter yesterday not likely but possible in the reference to juju smith schuster coming back to the pittsburgh steelers when you say possible that's like what one two percent right it's not yeah i mean i would
Starting point is 00:31:42 say like 10 so they could do, but they would have to do some cap gymnastics. I imagine he will have a better opportunity somewhere. It doesn't feel likely. They're talking. The Steelers are trying. It's just when a player
Starting point is 00:32:00 is going to have such a good market somewhere else, the team doesn't feel like they can resign. Juju's actually really interesting because, you know, obviously he's very talented. He's one of the top receivers. But he's kind of been like up and down the last couple years. I wonder if he takes like a really strong one-year deal and says, you know what, I'm not going to lock myself in on three for 33.
Starting point is 00:32:20 Let's just say that's a fake number. But let's just say three for 33. I'm not going to lock myself in. I'll take one for 10 and then go make 16 a year the following year yeah prove it i could see a one-year deal coming that'd be interesting and by the way juju is a good businessman he knows that if he has his best year at a new place if he wants to go to a new place he will get paid much more than potentially right now coming off the season that was for him even though he had a great year it's not the numbers that, you know,
Starting point is 00:32:45 I think some teams would give if he was to have a great year next year. Connor, go ahead. Yeah, Rap Sheet, for the Patriots signing Cam Newton, is that going to attract guys like Galladay and Hunter Henry and Will Fuller, like the top-tier free agents? And also, quick follow-up, on NFL Network, you always have your light on, but when you come on this show, for some reason, you don't have your light on and you need night vision goggles to see you.
Starting point is 00:33:08 What's the deal? Is that because you want to turn our lights off? You want to make our lights go out of business? You want us to have to pay electricity bills and kind of turn our lights off? I was actually annoyed when they first put these lights in and they're on all the time
Starting point is 00:33:24 and I'm like, oh, this is going to kill my electricity bills. And I actually look, and it affects it almost zero. Really? No. So, yeah, it's kind of interesting. So usually when I'm on TV, the lights are on. Okay? And in order to turn them on when I'm not on TV, like today I'm not on TV.
Starting point is 00:33:40 I'm just making phone calls. I have to call our control room and say, hey, can you turn my lights on? I've got to turn my lights on today. How is that even possible? That's not real. That is on me. People would say, hey,
Starting point is 00:33:56 you didn't get a reminder from the McAfee show, or Andrew Howard didn't let you know. I'm not going to blame anyone else. I would say this is on me. Get a light switch. You sure sound like you're blaming a lot of people there. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:34:11 No, this one's definitely on me. This is what we're going to do. We're going to send a socialite over there. Oh, there we go. Perfect. And by the way, we'll get you one that you can turn on yourself. It's just one of those. You just hit a little button.
Starting point is 00:34:21 We'll do that for you. Because you do a lot for our show. You do a lot for our show. We do enjoy it a lot. Now, you don't give us the breaks that you have. You just hit a little button. We'll do that for you. Because you do a lot for our show. You do a lot for our show. We do enjoy it a lot. Now, you don't give us the breaks that you have, you know what I mean? Because, obviously, the NFL and NFL Network. I got it saved in my phone right here, though. I have a question.
Starting point is 00:34:35 How long are you holding on to this? Do you not think somebody else is potentially going to break it? Or is there only a certain time you're allowed to break it? How does this go? Whatever it is has to be completed before it is reported so in my phone they're like oh you know i have like 15 things that are pending that i may never break or i may or whatever just you want to be ready you don't want to like misspell like tom blady or something when his contract breaks. Yeah, you don't want to do that.
Starting point is 00:35:07 And then everyone's like, L, wrong. And then the responses are bad. You don't want that. Anyway, the Cam Newton question. Yeah, true. It's interesting. It's definitely something. It's a relatively low deal for Cam Newton. It's more like $5 or $6 million.
Starting point is 00:35:22 And then the upside is a lot. Heavy on incentives. It doesn't like $5 or $6 million, and the upside is a lot. Heavy on incentives. It doesn't preclude them from doing anything. So what it does to me is it says, all right, they're probably not going to trade for Jimmy G. They're probably not going to sign Marcus Mariota, but could they draft someone? Absolutely. I think drafting someone is very possible. It basically sets them up for free agency and says, we now have a quarterback. Is it going to attract top-tier free agents?
Starting point is 00:35:49 I don't know because obviously last year was not great for Cam, especially after COVID, but at least it gives him the quarterback. COVID was very early in the season too. I mean, that was very, very early. I think another year in the system, maybe some more players, you know, with free agency, potential opt-outs coming back in after COVID season. Maybe
Starting point is 00:36:12 New England will be able to do their thing. Good luck with the big news break. We appreciate your time, Ian. Hi. Good hanging with you guys. Pray for me this week. Oh, hey, hey. Yeah, pretty negative week, huh? I mean, let's just hope for some wins, okay? Let's hope for some wins.
Starting point is 00:36:26 No, hold on. So, like, for instance, there was a screenshot of your tweet and then Insider's tweets, and you're at the bottom of that screenshot. That's, like, for you, that's a goal. That's a touchdown? Yeah, you want to be first. You want to be first in the timeline. Those screenshots are touchdowns, basically, though.
Starting point is 00:36:43 Like, that's, that's the thing? Yeah, yeah. Now, when you're, you know, when you're seven seconds behind, that's the opposite touchdown. Whatever, you know, it's a pick six, whatever. By the way, it shows that in those screenshots, too. It's like 13 seconds ago, 47 seconds ago. It's like, oh, It is a matter of seconds
Starting point is 00:37:06 in this. You turn your back and then you receive the text and you're like, I didn't see this text. It happens. And then you put it out and you're seven seconds behind and now you just lost the fucking game right there. Oh, no. Hey, go out there and get some wins.
Starting point is 00:37:21 There's going to be a lot of at-bats, okay? There's going to be a lot of at-bats next week. There's going to be a lot of at-bats next week. Let's go ahead and swing that thing. You being a lefty is still so weird to me. Bye, guys. See you, dude. Thank you, Ian. Most guys have tried
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Starting point is 00:37:53 Maybe you start doing the alphabet backwards. Whatever you end up doing, you need to not do it anymore. Not at all. None of it's going to work. Uh-uh. Okay? Before the time you get to the shortstop, it's already happened. All right?
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Starting point is 00:39:00 Shout out to you. Shout out to GetRoman.com forward slash Pat McAfee. Joining us now is a man who I assume has broken many a rule in his particular field. An outlaw, a maverick, a rebel amongst average. Ladies and gentlemen, NBC Sports Boston's own Tom Eker. Yeah! That's what I call him! Bit of a renegade I like that as you have family right across your head
Starting point is 00:39:30 Right there Yeah you're a loyal renegade Appreciate you joining us Tom We love whenever you come on pal Thanks man how's it going I've been enjoying all your content This off season too I think you guys are doing an unbelievable job
Starting point is 00:39:44 I especially liked your recitation of facts on why the internet hit you at the right time, and you hit the internet at the right time. I thought that was fascinating, because there's been a few little nooks and crannies to fit into over the last 20 years into the internet, but you're exactly right. This is one that people of your particular age group, which I'm not in, you hit it at the right spot. I think it was smart. Well, Tom, I appreciate that. He's referring to the 10 questions episode I did with Kyle Brandt, where I elaborated a little bit about the decision on retiring and how I viewed the Internet as like a modern day gold rush at the time. And right now it is.
Starting point is 00:40:22 I think a couple of years ago was. And that definitely factored into my decision. And then obviously whenever you learn from Dave and Erica and everybody over there about what's going on, it's quite helpful. Yeah, I appreciate you. I mean, I'm a dumbass. I am a dumbass. But if something starts looking like the universe is telling me something, I will listen, which also makes me a dumbass, but it has worked out thus far. Tom, let's talk about the universe. Let's talk about Bill Belichick. Let's talk about Cam Newton.
Starting point is 00:40:48 Let's talk about your work. I heard you were calling for Bill Belichick to come talk to the media. Is that right? You were like, hey, we need to talk to Bill. Was that what you do? You go outside and go, hey, we need Bill out here? The contention was this, okay? Pretending that this is business as usual after a 7-9 season the first year without Tom Brady here and pretending that I can give everybody the high hat
Starting point is 00:41:06 and I don't have to go show up and talk to anybody, that is whistling past the graveyard. If you're Robert Kraft and you have a $4 billion company, you probably want to be able to give the advertisers and the fans and the season ticket holders a little bit of an idea that you have a plan in place. Now, if Bill doesn't want to do that, you can say, the only reason, Robert, you have a $4 billion company is because of me.
Starting point is 00:41:25 So thank you very much. You want to stand up and talk to these nitwits, you can. But the general take that I was putting out there was if we could just have an open forum and dialogue on this, and you could say, yeah, I screwed up, maybe I should have kept Brady. I didn't think he was going to be this good. Then we're fine. There's no way that'll happen, right? Even if he comes out.
Starting point is 00:41:45 Now, I think the world only gets to see his post-game press conferences, right? You guys now that have Patriots access, media access, I would assume you've got access to the building every day, right? Daily you're in there. How often do you guys actually interact with Bill Belichick, and does he give you guys locally anything more than he gives the national audience post games well over 20 years it's changed pretty drastically um you know he and i had a tremendous relationship and it would be you know if i wanted to buttonhole him and ask him further questions after a press conference
Starting point is 00:42:20 as to help me understand things he would absolutely do that that. But I still don't think that, you know, I don't think he, we haven't been in the building. I think my general coverage tenor in terms of saying that it's a mistake to move on from Brady and Belichick kind of pushed him out the door, he's not immune to hearing about those things. And at some point, he just puts a line to the name. And I think there's a line to the name and i think there's a line to the name so but i've had a good relationship with him over the years um bro and i'm lucky to have covered him you know think of bill belichick in that we know his office right because from this tom brady sit downs we know what his office looks like he has all that shit right there's a
Starting point is 00:42:59 think of the wall that just has like who is on the do not give them shit. Yeah. That is awesome to think about. But the funny thing is, Tupac, is when you do have an opportunity to talk to him, I mean, basically, he shoots you exactly the way you would expect him to. What am I supposed to do? What do you think I'm going to do? I asked him one time about a player who was kind of threatening a holdout. What's he going to do, open a garage? That kind of thing.
Starting point is 00:43:34 So he, because all the stories behind the scenes are like, you would love him. Everybody that's ever been around him told me like, hey, you would love Bill Belichick. Has good personality. I wonder why, and I'd assume he views it as a competitive advantage to give the media absolutely nothing. But I wonder why, because when he's on that NFL Top 100 show with Rich Eisen,
Starting point is 00:43:53 listening to him, like, the appreciation of the game and the history and the moments and everything like that, it's incredible. And Nick Saban interview, and then the two Bills thing. Like, anytime you see him behind the scenes, he's awesome. And then in those press conferences, he just trolls at all times. interview and then the two bills thing like anytime you see him behind the scenes he's awesome and then in those press conferences he just trolls at all times and i i respect it i assume it sucks though to be a media person that has to cover it it sucks you understand the dance it becomes you know negligible returns um i think a lot of it is that he takes it as
Starting point is 00:44:25 you know whatever I say you're going to contort anyway so why would I give you people anything hey now that we're in the business he's right over the course of the year Friday press conferences Monday you know postscripts things like that
Starting point is 00:44:41 I would say that he is probably 60% better than most people think that he is. He was good this year, generally speaking. Now, why do you think that was? Because he was always very complimentary of Cam Newton. Now they're bringing back Cam Newton. He was raving about Cam Newton. Do you think that's because he understood how the team
Starting point is 00:44:58 was going to be last year? Do you think with this money he has now, Cam Newton coming back, he's at the point where he did not enjoy last year? Where do you think he is with everything right now? Yeah, coming back he's at the point where he did not enjoy last like what do you where do you think he is yeah with everything right now yeah let's let's flip straight to the cam stuff and talk about that it's to me when you look at it he needed to resign cam so that when wednesday comes along and curtis samuel or cory davis or jesse james name whatever receiver says who do you guys have playing quarterback?
Starting point is 00:45:25 They're not just looking at an empty chair. He can say, well, we've got Cam Newton coming back. He's on a reasonable contract. We're not done there yet, but we have Cam Newton. And you know Cam when he's at his best. Last year he wasn't at his best for a variety of reasons, but you're part of the solution. And that's why we want you here.
Starting point is 00:45:41 So I think that's the jumping off point. The second point is they do have an understanding that the guys that surrounded Brady in 2019 and that surrounded Cam in 2020 were not good. And they were even worse in 2020 because Edelman was hurt. So all of that entered into the Patriots saying, look, if he's going to come back on a modest contract, we need to have somebody sitting in that chair. Why not just bring him back and get some momentum? Andy said Bill Belichick was dope as shit a couple weeks ago on the I Am Athlete podcast, which I'm a big fan of.
Starting point is 00:46:12 Connor, Uncle Tommy Curran here, do you have anything to say? Absolutely, Tommy, you look great. Guns look amazing. You just listed some unbelievable free agents, but do you see anybody like Hunter henry kenny galladay will fuller any of those guys possibly coming to new england see this is how the whole the whole conversation changes a little bit i'm just wrapping up a court i don't know why i couldn't wait till the end of the show but uh i uh it changes the conversation you know five days ago
Starting point is 00:46:42 albert breer said you know no way kenny Galladay is going to go to the Patriots, was what he was having intimated to him. Maybe that changes. Look, he gets to New England. Cam gives him a goofy nickname. They start having fun together. The next thing you know, you know, they're winning a couple of games. At least it changes the conversation.
Starting point is 00:46:58 Maybe a Kenny Galladay is somewhat enamored of it. But I still think if you're a player who wants to win a Super Bowl, I don't think this is the place to come. I think if you want to maybe be around the greatest coach that's ever done it and see how it works so that you can tell your kids, yeah, I know what this legend of the game of professional sports was like and was in it, then you can do that. But I think the Patriots, to go 7-9 last year with the players they had
Starting point is 00:47:21 and the players that opted out. Even if they improve, their talent is still kind of low. The ceiling is you beat the hell of them. I know, I'm sorry. Here's the thing. They're going to beat the hell out of the teams that they're on a level playing field with. They're going to probably put a scare
Starting point is 00:47:40 into and beat some of the teams that are a little bit more talented than them. But when they get up against the Ravens or who else? The Tennessees or teams like that. How about the Chiefs? The Kansas City Chiefs should be mentioned in this, yes.
Starting point is 00:47:58 They're going to be overmatched. By the way, you said that, I think, coming out of training camp this past season. I think it was this past season coming out of training camp. Connor was like, we're still going to be okay. We got Bill Belichick. We're going to win 10 games. We're going to get in the playoffs and blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 00:48:12 It sounded like Foxy with the Detroit Lions. And then, Tom, you literally said, I ain't having it, Connor. This team stinks. Calvary's not coming around to better over the hill. So, I mean, yeah, Connor. I mean, look, the best thing you can do right now is just start looking at the draft. I don't know if you want to – look, do whatever you can to get Kyle Pitts. Kyle Pitts and Cam Newton, that thing can work together.
Starting point is 00:48:36 That's your tight end out of Florida. For those of you who are not draft Knicks at this point, and I'm going to wait a month before you start paying attention, you bring him aboard. Forget Trey Lance, 20 years old from Division II. Go get Kyle Pitts. He's going to be an all-pro for about the next eight years straight. That's what I'm selling.
Starting point is 00:48:52 Hey, you watch Kyle Pitts play and you go, is that his name? Kyle Pitts. Yeah. Kyle Trask was the quarterback as well? Interesting. You watch that dude play, though, and you're like hey that's a guy that's an nfl guy right there okay that that guy right there is an nfl guy that's playing against college kids right now he was hitting seam balls that he was just going he was he has
Starting point is 00:49:13 an incredible catch radius and it's like wow perfect time to be a great tight end as well because the entire nfl is set up for the tight end even the baltimore ravens that don't do the offense that everybody else does they kind of change their entire offense, you know, one, three tight ends. They use a tight end. It's like everybody uses a tight end now. Great time to be that guy. He's going to be incredibly wealthy because he's an incredible tight end, I think. Ty, what do you have?
Starting point is 00:49:36 Tom, so you kind of just covered it right there, but do you think there's any way that the Patriots do potentially go after a quarterback in the first round? Maybe not even necessarily the first round, but it's pretty clear that Stidham isn't the guy. So what are they going to do? Are they looking post-cam at all or no?
Starting point is 00:49:52 You've got to talk to Jordan Palmer. Do you ever talk to him? Oh, yeah. Hey, by the way, Jordan Palmer owes us a Carson Palmer bobblehead. That's right. All right, because I talked to Jordan Palmer yesterday. Talk to him again. Tell him he owes us a Carson Palmer bobblehead. That's right. All right, because I talked to Jordan Palmer yesterday. Talk to him again. Tell him he owes us a Carson Palmer bobblehead.
Starting point is 00:50:07 Jordan Palmer has given us an incredible breakdown on quarterbacks. But, yeah, write that down, please. Thank you. Yeah, thank you. But he was great on Stidham. Yeah, I think we're all kind of out on his performance where it said, you know, don't call us, we'll call you. But Jordan Palmer is basically saying he will pick up the phone,
Starting point is 00:50:24 Jared Stidham and say don't forget about me so you're right about that I'm not predicting greatness for Jared Stidham because it's been so uneven but what would they do the hard thing is to be where they are I mean do you want to take Mac Jones with a first round pick and pass on a linebacker, a front seven player. The Patriots' front seven doesn't have anybody in it who scares you, aside from Dante Hightower. They have free agents who are going to walk out the door. John Simon, perhaps. Adam Butler.
Starting point is 00:50:55 Lawrence Guy. Dietrich Wise. These are not household names to begin with, but there's... Lawrence Guy? No! We know Lawrence Guy. What? What just happened there? Back friend of the show.
Starting point is 00:51:07 Yeah. Do not want to lose Larry. Oh, yeah. Well, who's Larry? Lawrence Guy. Yeah. Oh, Larry Guy. Yeah, Larry Guy.
Starting point is 00:51:16 Yeah. No, Larry Guy's great. But he's a free agent. Somebody's going to pay him. Oh, I didn't know. He's very good for him. He's going to get paid. Do you have a follow-up to that? Well, to the Kyle Pittss point tom uh how are we going to move up into the top 10 if
Starting point is 00:51:28 we do are we going to trade gilmore or another one of the young players you might have yeah why is gilmore always on the block what's that all about because he's making seven million dollars in salary in this coming year it's the last year of his deal good corners like xavian howard and byron jones and darius slayer making close to 18 million dollars in salary gilmore has been a defensive player of the year he's only 31 so he's basically we're not we're not gonna pay him well a million dollars yeah they're saying we're not gonna pay him right and they want to get something back for him in the last year of his deal so but to answer that question how do you get up i just don't And they want to get something back for him in the last year of his deal. But to answer that question, how do you get up? I just don't think you
Starting point is 00:52:07 want to get up. You have too many holes to be auctioning off first and second round picks so that you can go up and get Trey Lance. That's my contention. You just have nobody at outside wide receiver. You have no tight ends. And that includes the guys drafted last year. It's just...
Starting point is 00:52:24 I don't know. Give me a break! and that includes the guys drafted last year. It's just... Geez, at least I got a Virginia Tech. Don Key, give me a break. Oh, my God. You did stop talking about him very quickly. Do you remember what he was saying about that guy? He only dressed for about two games. Tom, this is... I look like a corpse.
Starting point is 00:52:36 Do you know that? I shouldn't have put this light on. You said you look like a corpse? Yeah, watch. Holy shit. Oh, my God Yeah, watch. Holy shit. Oh my god, you do. Hold on. Can you do that one more time?
Starting point is 00:52:50 I mean, it was... Well, that's a dead man. He looks so natural. Tom, we appreciate you, man. Alright, boys. That's great. I love this friendship we've developed over the last few months. Yeah, it's been pretty good. I mean, every time you, man. All right, boys. That's great. I love this friendship we've developed over the last few months. Yeah, it's been pretty good.
Starting point is 00:53:08 I mean, every time you come on here, you make us all laugh relatively. You're a hilarious human. All right. And you are, too. I want to see some of the stand-up. I really did enjoy that stuff about the Internet. I'm going to put it on my glass. See you guys later.
Starting point is 00:53:23 All right, man. Hey, you know what, Tom? We'll see you later, too, pal. It would be great to have you. Good luck All right, man. Hey, you know what, Tom? We'll see you later, too, pal. It would be great to have you. Good luck to the Patriots. It seems like you're saying doomsday. Your nephew here, Connor, is like, no, it's going to be all bells and whistles, pal. Playoffs.
Starting point is 00:53:34 When are you getting up here? You know, I was last week, Tom. I actually knocked on your front door, but you didn't. He's on the pontoon. Where are you from? Worcester. Yeah, there you go. He's out of the pontoon. Where are you from? Worcester. Yeah, there you go. He's out of the Big Woo.
Starting point is 00:53:48 Is everybody in New England the same person? Kind of funny, yeah. There is a strand of DNA that you can absolutely sense from somebody within a few words. And you can almost pinpoint what part of the state they're from. Say it. Say it. Say it. The area. Winchester?
Starting point is 00:54:08 The Revolution Region is something that is. Connor said this the other day. Because we started talking about people from New England or whatever, you know. And we got in this conversation and you actually came up in the conversation. And then Connor just out of his mouth goes like, it's the Revolution Region, man. It was like, oh my my God, that is. Is that how it's referred? I was like, is that how it's referred to?
Starting point is 00:54:27 No, but I think there is something about that area where it's like, you know, there is. It's like, hey, we're a pretty badass group of people here. Very argumentative group. Very, very, very argumentative. Yeah, we're going to blame everybody else. Hey, we are going to deflect here pretty good now. This is going to get pretty good. Yep.
Starting point is 00:54:43 It's the other guy. Exactly. Tommy Curran. You're the man. This is going to get pretty good. Yep. It's the other guy. Exactly. Tommy Curran. You're the man. Thank you, Tom. The responses to the beekeeper suit on the internet are next level. Obviously, we have a man in a full beekeeper suit in tone Diggs because he is entrenched
Starting point is 00:55:07 in battle with the juju bees over things that he said about juju Smith-Schuster not respecting the steel workers that made Pittsburgh. Way to go, Diggs. Proud of you, bud. Another man that would be very proud of what you're standing up for. The blue collar people of Pittsburgh, Diggs.
Starting point is 00:55:23 A blue collar man himself who has had a chance to taste the finer things in life because he has been paid, I think, $300 million, $400 million in his entire career. Ladies and gentlemen, A.J. Hawks. How you doing, man? How you doing, Diggs? You look good. Thank you, Paul. Did you see him ask Ian Rappaport of the NFL Network and employed by the NFL a question?
Starting point is 00:55:47 I mean, it is, you know, there's a lot of dumb shit that pops off on this show. Diggs in a bee suit talking to Ian Rappaport about free agency news breakings. Maybe my favorite thing we've done thus far. It was the reveal. So I watched the Rappaport. I didn't know that was the first time Diggs introduced himself as the beekeeper like today. I didn't realize it was the first time. No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:56:10 What? It's been a whole show. It's been a whole show, AJ. I know, but I'm saying, I guess, to Ian. Oh, yeah. Okay. Yeah, yeah. All right.
Starting point is 00:56:19 Obviously, Ian. But, okay, so you kicked off the show. I didn't see the beginning. You came out in that. Hey, just know this. There was no ESPN people on the show today, AJ. No way. Why is that?
Starting point is 00:56:30 New mandate. Mm-hmm. New mandate. They're not allowed on the show. Memo around the office. They're not allowed on the show. They're not allowed on the show. Does Ariel count in that?
Starting point is 00:56:40 See, I don't know. They don't really care about UFC. I don't know. That's an interesting thing. But yeah, there's some good times with some of those. Wait, were they sent to you? Teammates, friends, people that I've
Starting point is 00:56:53 known for years. Not allowed anymore. Don't come. Can't do it? How'd you find out? I got a text and then a follow-up call from somebody in some other field to allow me the information or whatever. So, RIP to Orszlowski on this show? Well, that is quite a bummer.
Starting point is 00:57:12 I want to let you know that I am not happy about that at all, but he'll go on to do great things over there, and we'll continue to probably, you know, just charge along. Absolutely. It was a good era, you know what I mean? Wait, what happened, though? Did an employee say something wrong? No. Just charge along. Absolutely. It was a good era. You know what I mean? Every once in a while. Wait, what happened, though? What did it do?
Starting point is 00:57:26 Did an employee say something wrong? No. No. I mean, I can tell you. Oh, no. Rex? Not Rex. Jeez.
Starting point is 00:57:39 Backroom's missing it. Yeah. Could have had the Grim Reaper come out. Could have been Master Week. Could have been the endim Reaper come out. Could have been Massacre Week. Could have been the end of the Rex Ryan era on the show. Nope, nope, nope.
Starting point is 00:57:49 We've come too far. But yeah, Rex is out, I guess. What about Greenberg? I know. Greedy. I assume that means you're not going on.
Starting point is 00:58:00 Well, now, yeah, do I have to? I guess I would because I spent a million dollars traveling around the country working for that company, so I guess I would because, I mean, I spent a million dollars traveling around the country working for that company. So I guess I would have to. I guess I would have to just kind of maybe not ever go on their thing again, too.
Starting point is 00:58:13 For lack of a better word. Time to dig the trenches. Is that what I got to do, AJ? Oh, Jet. No! Oh, no! Oh, shit! Joe, no!
Starting point is 00:58:23 Oh, no! Who are we going to talk about baseball? Oh, no. You missed it again. Could have done it again. Sean Casey. Could have done it again right there. Still got him.
Starting point is 00:58:32 I don't want to throw you off. Oh, feel good Friday. Feel good Friday. Anyways. Oh, Jet. AJ, it was a tough morning with Jet passing. Dude. Fuck.
Starting point is 00:58:42 I need to know what happened. Thank you, Jet Polly. You know what happened, dude jeb pine you know what happened dude this what happens but no like espn they at least in the past like they were their employees like aren't didn't do a whole lot outside of the espn platform whether it be one of their radio shows or whatever so they've been doing more i just wonder what is it just your show or do they not want espn people i do believe this particular show was Singleton. I do believe.
Starting point is 00:59:07 It was a good run. Can't imagine why. I will say that when this guest was originally scheduled to be on the show and then he missed it, he could have been a guest alongside an ESPN that just came down this morning. But now he's
Starting point is 00:59:23 back in the game. He's back in the game. He's back on the show. We assume he was working out getting better and better at football the other day when he missed his appearance here and made us look like absolute fucking stooges. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, absolute monster for the Arizona Cardinals, Buda Baker. What's going on, Buda? It's good.
Starting point is 00:59:45 Man, my bad. First and foremost, my bad, man. Like you said, I was working out. Yeah! You know, I was in the backyard, and next thing you know, I get this weird FaceTime. And you know me, I don't really answer numbers that I don't know. So I saw, and I'm like, yeah, I don't know who that is.
Starting point is 01:00:05 Man, if we would have got you in the middle of a workout, by the way, like if we would have called back, because the first time you didn't answer, we didn't know, we're like, oh, he's probably working out. If we were to call back and you were to answer, and he's sweating and breathing hard, it's like, we knew it. That's all. What are you doing right now? Is life just training, eating, hanging out?
Starting point is 01:00:21 How are you taking up your time? Your house looks beautiful, by the way. Congratulations. Congrats. Appreciate it. Appreciate it. Yeah, like you said, you know, I went to Miami with the lady, chilled with her, you know.
Starting point is 01:00:33 After that, kind of just got right back into the weight room and started lifting, you know. So, just been training and chilling at the house. Buddha, we know the whole J.J. Watt situation happened. Were you as surprised, I guess, as the rest rest of us were that he was signing with your team yeah i was very surprised i was i was very surprised but very happy you know especially with chandler jones one of the best pass rushers as well so for me i was very excited you know make my life a lot easier. For sure. Are you working on maybe long-term speed a little bit? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:11 That's so fucked up. I should not have said that, Buddha. I'm working on everything. My long-term speed, I'm a fast guy. I know. If you want to race me, just let me know. No! Have you seen the shoes I've been wearing, Duke?
Starting point is 01:01:26 You don't want any pieces of that, pal. What are those? Skechers? Buddha. I can't see. It's blurry. Oh, yeah. You can see very well. You can see great.
Starting point is 01:01:42 Buddha, whenever you look at your team, adding J.J. Watt and the owner said it's going to be a seismic shift of teams, and I think there's still some money to be used, what do you think it's going to be to get over there? Now, J.J. is obviously going to help. That is another weapon on the defensive line. The defense has, you know, great upside, especially with you flying around on every single play, killing somebody. How do you think Arizona Cardinals takes that next step? Do you think you need another piece? What do you think it is?
Starting point is 01:02:09 Oh, man. For me, we had a great team last year. And I know this year with the organization we have, the team is going to be even greater. And my whole thing to last year is paying attention to that detail. We didn't pay attention to detail as good as we could have been, and that is why we had the record we had. But, you know, when it came to talent and players, we had the players. It was just a matter of paying attention to detail and taking it week by week
Starting point is 01:02:38 and not focusing on the next week and focusing on the week ahead because, you know, like each day isn't promised, right? So each day you know like each day isn't promised right so each day you're on that field isn't promised as well so you want to make sure that you're thinking about that certain day or that certain game and not going ahead so that's that's the thing that i feel like we're definitely going to work on and uh definitely be a lot better this year is that something that you can figure out in the moment or do you have to, like once the season's over, you've had some, some rough losses. You look back and say like, Oh, these are the things I overlooked.
Starting point is 01:03:11 I didn't even realize it. Exactly. Once the season's over, you're like, man, you, you know, you watch film, you know, that next week, but you got to worry about the next week. Right. So after the season, you go back back you watch all the film you watch you know you know all the stuff that you could have done better as a whole team and you're just like dang man like we deserve we deserve to be at this position um so you know we're just gonna put the work in that's what i want to make sure our guys know we're gonna put the work in we're gonna
Starting point is 01:03:42 compete and we're it's gonna be a competition each and every day. And for me, being the leader that I am, one of the leaders on the team, I'm going to definitely emphasize we're going to be competing, paying attention to detail, taking it day by day, and sky's the limit for us. Are you a vocal leader day to day, or is it more like a show the way? Are you a vocal leader day to day or is it more like a show the way? Exactly. I'm more like a show the way guy. Don't really talk much. You know, when I talk, guys usually listen. But for me, I'm kind of lead by example type of guy.
Starting point is 01:04:18 I've always been like that growing up. And, you know, always growing up, the coaches would always tell me to talk. You know, you talk, your words speak volume. And for for me i was just never i'm never much about talking you know i'm kind of really about that action like about that action boss now leadership is an interesting thing though you know especially as you become uh by the way earn the contract that you got and then obviously the name starts the recognition so immediately upon anybody getting to the cardinals they know buda baker you're in a position of leadership is it natural do you have to do you have to think about that like hey if i show up a little bit late
Starting point is 01:04:56 to something or if i'm not the earliest person like people will notice like is that something that you actually have to think about day to day or is it just like a natural thing you understand that it comes with the territory for me i i feel like it's always natural came with the territory even though even ever since i was a freshman or you know a rookie you know i've always had that mentality to to be in there first and be out of there last and to put the work in because you know like my um my trainer back home would say um the grind he always talks about grind and your mentality and you're only going to get out what you put in so each and every day i try to get out what i put in and put in the very best that i can each and every day and i know that's going to make me better for sure. Man, what was that quote?
Starting point is 01:05:47 That was a good quote. What was the quote going to be? The grind? Do we remember what the quote could be? It was going to be a good quote. You know, I don't really. We understand what you're talking about. The grind, you know.
Starting point is 01:06:03 The grind. The grind never stops, baby. That's right. Hey, Buddha, speaking of that grind, you ever watch film or any kind of old footage from like the 70s, 80s, 90s, even early 2000s and are jealous of what the DBs could do and how they could just decapitate people? Oh, man, for sure.
Starting point is 01:06:22 That was definitely a crazy time for me. I used to grow up watching LT on YouTube. Of course, I probably wasn't born yet, but not LaDainian Thompson, but Lawrence Taylor. His whole mentality was crazy. He was crazy, dude. highlights on YouTube and just getting that mentality to not fear nobody. And to, you know, I love the way he played the game because he was always angry out there. And that's kind of how I am. I'm kind of a cool type of chill person off the football field. But on the football field, that flip switches and I turn into a little Tasmanian devil. I know your mic'd ups are awesome. I believe last year you actually were screaming,
Starting point is 01:07:10 I ain't scared of nobody or something after you did that thing. It's a magical moment there. Do you still have to watch highlights before the game? Do you listen to music? How do you get yourself from, you know, the dude before the phone booth and then superman post phone booth like what is that moment there to get you into the uh psycho mindset shall we say yeah i mean believe it or not um i like to walk listen to r&b music on the way to the game you know listen to some nice r&b
Starting point is 01:07:39 yeah some maybe some nice smooth jazz get my get. Get my head all straight. Make it nice and mellow. Next thing you know, when we start getting ready to work out, that's when I start listening to my rap music. Start doing push-ups, tricep stuff. We're getting in the trap now. Getting ready, getting hype, getting ready. Then once game time starts, all my my r&b music chilled me down and now i'm about to rise again and it's game day baby it's time to go and that is how how i play
Starting point is 01:08:15 was the i'm sure we asked you this the last time you were on but i don't remember your answer how excited are you for potential crowds back in stadiums? Did that affect the defense a lot more, you think, than the offense, obviously? I mean, yeah, you could say that. But then again, having no fans really showed kind of the skill, you know. It showed guys talking, showed guys, you know, being able to talk on defense, especially at home games, being in Arizona, in the indoor, it's so loud. especially at home games, being in Arizona, in the indoor, it's so loud. But being quiet for the defense at home, I mean,
Starting point is 01:08:51 it was definitely one of those situations. We kind of heard the offensive cadence better. We heard what they were audibly into and all that type of stuff. So that was definitely okay. But, you know, having fans is always what takes it up a notch. You can only have so much juice. Bring your own energy. That's what we always talk about, bring your own energy, especially with no fans on the field.
Starting point is 01:09:16 They had good music, but I just can't wait until the fans are back. There are some stadiums that have terrible music, by the way. And then you go to some stadium and it's like, oh, this is a good music. I hope they recognize that they got a good atmosphere in here. There are some bad DJs in some of them. There are some bad DJs. What do you have, Kong?
Starting point is 01:09:35 Yeah, Buddha, with the draft next month, are you going to tell your GM, like, hey, let's go get another pass rusher. Let's get another corner to help me out a little bit. Or are you just going to let them do their job? Yeah, maybe write a letter yeah write a letter to them maybe you know i'm gonna let them do their job you know i can't say that's above my pay grade but for them you know i'm just letting them do their job i trust in all the you know steve kine and michael bidwell and cliff kingsbury you know they brought it brought in a guy like J.J. Watt. The sky's the limit for us, and I can't wait till this draft to see what young bucks we can bring in
Starting point is 01:10:08 because, you know, even the young bucks from last year, that whole D-line crew, they're going to be some killers. So I'm definitely excited. Hey, how do you think J.J. Watt and Chandler are going to complement each other on that D-line? Oh, man, it's going to be so fun. Just, you know, being on a team with Chandler for at least four years and seeing his opposite, you know, outside pass rusher, it's always someone different.
Starting point is 01:10:35 And to have a guy like J.J. Watt, a guy who has done it at a very high level, a guy who, you know, they're battling in sacks if you really want to, like, talk about it. So they're battling in sacks if you really want to like talk about it so they're just gonna be competing it's gonna be a whole lot of fun jj he's he's he's a live talent i can't wait he he's a vocal leader as well and i'm just very excited for them both to be on the field together how's the locker room culture very good in there like jj who is a vocal person like he comes in there he'll be very comfortable in there huh it's as long as you work obviously which i would assume jj what will do but like the culture there is is a good one how you guys feel like you
Starting point is 01:11:14 got a like a winning culture in that locker room that's been built up over the last few years i mean it's definitely uh built up for sure this culture um the guys on the team last year were all great guys guys that you can talk to. I could talk to the O-line and I could talk to the long snappers. I could talk to the punters. Everybody had a very, you know, cool personality. We just want to see each other win. So I'm just excited to bring in that competition and to just compete, you know, because I feel like last year we didn't really compete as good as we could have. So this year is definitely focusing on competing and just attention to detail. Yeah, and if you guys do that, everybody will have one of your houses.
Starting point is 01:11:55 Where are we right now? Is this an outside patio? Oh, no, man. We're just in my living room, family room. Oh, wow. Hey, good for you, room. Oh, wow. Oh. Hey, good for you, man. You made it.
Starting point is 01:12:09 Yeah. You know. That's awesome. Still working on getting the furniture in, but, you know, COVID, all this stuff, it takes a while. So I'm just chilling. Hey, congratulations on all the success. You earned it all. I hope the Cardinals go on to, you know, win a lot of games.
Starting point is 01:12:25 I hope you get to enjoy the hell out of this run. We appreciate you every time you come on. Yes, sir. Appreciate you guys. Thanks for having me. And my bad, I missed last. No, no, no, no, no. No, you were working.
Starting point is 01:12:35 Hey, we're a working show. Yeah, we are. Okay, we are all about that work out here. We're a working show. We're pro working. So we knew you were out there getting it, dude. Yes, sir. Appreciate y'all.
Starting point is 01:12:47 Are you putting a field out there? Are you putting a field in the backyard? Oh, man. You know, it's not big enough for a field, but, you know, I got a nice little 15 yards in me, and that's good, you know. Ladies and gentlemen, Buda Baker. Yeah!
Starting point is 01:13:03 So sorry to interrupt, but I want to let you know that if you're not gambling with FanDuel, you're Baker. Yeah, Buda! So sorry to interrupt, but I want to let you know that if you're not gambling with FanDuel, you're wrong. Okay? FanDuel Sportsbook is available in seven states, I believe, at this point. Six, seven, eight. You get it. If you're not gambling with FanDuel Sportsbook, though, you're completely wrong. And if we're not in your state yet, we are coming to your state. We have better odds.
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Starting point is 01:13:53 We worked that out. That's kind of how things operate whenever you're in a business relationship with each other. But even if we weren't in a business relationship with FanDuel, it'd be hard to say that we wouldn't use the FanDuel Sportsbook app. There are so many different ways to win. There's more things to bet on. Their boosts seem to always hit, which is just fucking themselves over time and time again. We love the hell out of FanDuel Sportsbook, and you will too. If you haven't used it yet, use it now. Also, there's fantasy on there, daily fantasy, and free-to-play games where you can win money. Shout-out to FanDuel.
Starting point is 01:14:25 Shout-out to you. Let's get back to the show. Last night, by the way, we're getting a new bed. Ooh. Yeah, we're getting a new bed. Nice. Yeah, it's coming in like 74 days. Mattress, a whole thing, frame.
Starting point is 01:14:38 Six to eight months. Yeah, six to eight months. Here we go. I mean, you heard Buddha. They are, I ordered a couch in November. Still not here. Yeah, logistics right now is potentially in are. I ordered a couch in November. Still not here. Yeah. Logistics right now is potentially in some trouble with the state of the world.
Starting point is 01:14:49 But from what I've been told, 4th of July, logistics will be able to gather in a small group. Yeah. Celebrate independence. AJ, how you doing, pal? I'm doing great. It's tough to not have reaction every time the camera cuts to dicks. What do you mean? I know.
Starting point is 01:15:03 We've kind of just. Are you warm? You can't be comfortable. That's actually very breathable. I don't know if that's a good thing. He's outrageous. And it did almost get to a point where we were just okay with it. We just look at him and like, oh, yeah, that's Diggs now.
Starting point is 01:15:19 But we should let it be known that we understand this is a rather large sports show. And one of the people on it who is normally a part of the breaking news part of our show is in a full fucking beekeeper for the entire show. I'm not sure he's ever taken it off. When are you planning on leaving that beekeeper? Probably at least all weekend until the bees die off. I believe there's a cold front coming in. Okay, so this is like your uniform.
Starting point is 01:15:44 Are you going to come back with maybe a badge or a patch? believe there's a cold front coming in okay so so this is this is like your uniform like are you gonna come back with like maybe uh like a badge or a patch like you just want to battle like some sort of metal on your beekeeper suit i wasn't thinking about that but oh yeah i think you should probably know when did you make this? Oh, man. The bees are buzzing. Looks like Juju's TikTok dance.
Starting point is 01:16:13 Let's get some phone calls. Hey, a lot of people are reacting to the ESPN news. I feel like this is just business. Like, I think we had a chance to be at Barstool when a similar thing happened with Barstool and ESPN, where ESPN employees were no longer allowed to do any barstool shows and uh so this had happened before we i assumed it would happen now granted i think we do i don't know man i feel like i did a lot for espn there for a hilarious amount of cash that they thought was okay to pay me for what i was doing for them so like i feel like we had a great relationship.
Starting point is 01:16:45 I like a lot of people over there. I feel like we potentially, I'm not sure Dane Orszawski is viewed in the same manner he was before he started coming on this show or anything like that. But we kind of expected this to happen, understand it's business or whatever, and we'll just keep chugging along. And I'll text him, though, ESPN. I will text my friends. Gotcha.
Starting point is 01:17:04 Know that that's gonna happen I just want to know like what would happen if you FaceTime one of them during the show and it just happened to be on the show like you do with Ariel on your phone let's test it out here we go you think he got the memo well that's what
Starting point is 01:17:23 we don't know Dan just put out a nice gif that he says he misses you already. Dan knows. Dan knows the deal. Hey, listen, Dan Orszalowski knows. He gets it. You're not allowed to be on here. You're not allowed to be on here. Why'd you answer?
Starting point is 01:17:39 Oh. Is this? Are we on air? Yes! I set you up. That's on me. I apologize. So you get the answer.
Starting point is 01:17:50 And then immediately stopped talking when he found out that he was on the air. So that's officially the last ESPN appearance right there. Okay. All right. Thank you for your warning. Thank you. We set him up for massive failure there, and I like him. But, hey, charge us a game, hey, charge the game, baby.
Starting point is 01:18:05 It's business, baby. Gotcha. He just texted me two times. He's probably not thrilled with what just happened there. What are you doing? You just caught me fired. He said, not cool. Come on.
Starting point is 01:18:16 Why are you doing that? I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. I didn't think you would answer. All right. Let's do Dane now, too. All right. I'll call you.
Starting point is 01:18:24 Let's get him. All right. Let's go. Do it. Let's go to James and Teddy. That was kind of fucked up, I guess, huh? You kind of wanted me to do that, though. No, I didn't. I just, I mean, come on. You pushed him to do it, AJ.
Starting point is 01:18:42 Ariel can't get in any kind of trouble for that happening. Well. Maybe. If he does, it's absolutely ridiculous. So you'll pay his year's salary next year if he does. Zero chance. He's not getting in any trouble. He said there is zero winning for what you just did to me. Now I either look like a wuss or I defied the rules.
Starting point is 01:18:55 You fucked me over here, basically. Well, he found a situation he couldn't weasel his way out of, huh? Oh, jeez, thanks, bud. Does he know you're reading his text live on air, too? Oh, wow, you're right. I don't know if he Does he know you're reading his text live on air, too? Oh, well, you're right. I don't know if he knows that. Are you allowed to read their words on there? No.
Starting point is 01:19:09 Oh, yeah. I'm quoting you now. I'll stop. I'm quoting the show now. I will stop. I apologize. So how did you find out? How did you find out about this?
Starting point is 01:19:18 Were you not supposed to find out? No, yeah, I got calls from people. I said, hey. You mean like people from ESPN have said, hey, we're not having anybody on your show No, no, no, representatives of people Hey, this was information You know what I mean? Yeah, okay
Starting point is 01:19:32 Confusing, don't know why It's business related I knew Ariel wasn't He's not going to get in trouble for that Ariel, come on It wasn't your fault So
Starting point is 01:19:45 You're right It was AJ And clearly we have Video evidence of this Yes Hey I guess I count that As a point AJ right 10-7
Starting point is 01:19:52 Yeah Yeah Atta boy AJ Over Ariel I think It's true Let's go to James in Texas What's going on James
Starting point is 01:19:59 Hey how you doing Hey not too shabby How are you Still doing that Hey I had a quick Theory about Jack Easterby Man Oh Probably there Hey, not too shabby. How are you? Doing good, man. Hey, I had a quick theory about Jack Easterby, man. Oh. You think Bob McNair came down and talked to his son, Kyle, and said,
Starting point is 01:20:17 man, now that I'm gone, we need a warden around here. And they went and got Jack Easterby out of the Patriots to be the Patriots of the South. Makes sense. That might be it right there. And if he's coming down, God probably told him. Yeah. There's a chosen one right there. Right there. Thanks for that call there.
Starting point is 01:20:30 I like that theory there. Let's go to Mark in Kansas City. What's going on over there, Mark? We have breaking news. Hey, boys, what's up? How's this feel-good Friday, man? Hey, not too shabby. We appreciate you, bud.
Starting point is 01:20:41 How are you doing over there? Appreciate you. I'm phenomenal, man, making this the best Friday in the history of Fridays. Oh, yeah. Let's go, dude. Hey, I got a question, man. I need you to answer it. Tampa Bay's been talking all this shit post-Super Bowl.
Starting point is 01:20:58 Oh, yeah. You know, we make moves. Tampa Bay talks about it first thing on Twitter. Are we just going to dog walk the NFL next year and my Chiefs go 17-0? Okay, great question there. There is some breaking news out of Kansas City. Tom Pelissero, the Arrow, is reporting that Chiefs quarterback Patrick Mahomes' contract, like many, has automatic conversion language that allows the team to convert salary or bonuses
Starting point is 01:21:24 to a signing bonus at any time to create cap space. It's anticipated Kansas City will do that in the coming days, as almost every team is doing right now. This voidable years thing that is being used by every single salary cap person that is in any bit of trouble right now is genius. I'd assume at some point there's going to be a rule change about this in the future. But whenever you're Patrick Mahomes and you have a 10-year deal, there's a lot of maneuvering of signing bonuses and money
Starting point is 01:21:52 that you can move in there for the next decade. That deal is locked in through the next CBA. So, I mean, there is a lot of potential movement for that thing. He's saving them some money. They'll continue to be able to build, I'd assume, and continue to keep players good for kansas city good for patrick mahomes who inevitably is going to get a half a billion dollars but when's he going to get that money how's he going to get that money that's being figured out right now by the people with big old fucking brains in kansas city this isn't going to be the last time that he has to restart like and it's now he's not taking
Starting point is 01:22:23 any money away from just moving it around to try to play with the cap like i don't know the cap feels it's unbelievable because no one's going to come in over the cap on march 17th when the official start of the league year happens but everyone's got to find a way to get there i don't know it just doesn't feel real it doesn't feel like it's a thing yeah it's just fake money it's play money well especially with this voidable years thing this voidable years thing is awesome we talked to ian rapaport about i guess these teams will have to pay this off eventually but if the league goes on forever can't you just continue to get your hand down the road and then inevitably at some point you're going to run into it which is i guess what the saints are running into right now where they've had to cut five people and they go from 90 million over to under
Starting point is 01:23:01 because they could have never expected for the salary cap to drop $15.5 million from last year to this year. It's very interesting kind of watching the way people are getting under the salary cap. And Ian Rappaport said that they all have to be under by Wednesday. So he thinks these next stretch of days, and Jake Glazer reported this as well, things are going to start happening here whenever they have to figure out the house. Yeah, unfortunately a lot of teams are very, very high over the salary cap, so they are going to have to be
Starting point is 01:23:29 cutting players to get under the cap when the new league year starts on Wednesday. That was despicable. What do you mean? He tweeted that. What you just did right there is probably going to end our relationship with any Fox people. That was an unbelievable impression. That was a great impression.
Starting point is 01:23:48 How is that disrespectful? No, listen. There was a couple little additives, I believe. Like what? There was just a couple things you slipped in there to add that thing to maybe emphasize some things that you have noticed about our friend Jay Glazer with the three-piece suit on. And it felt like you were really hammering those home is what I'm saying. No, yeah, he tweeted that verbatim. What did he say?
Starting point is 01:24:08 Listen, I don't know if you guys are aware of this, but teams are going to have to cut several players to get under the salary cap number come Wednesday of the new league year. He did it again. I know it's shocking. I know it's a bloodbath. God be with them. What's so funny, AJ? You all right? The God be with them What's so funny AJ
Starting point is 01:24:25 You alright God be with him I hope that was in the tweet Jack Easterby you know It's still a part of everything we're a part of here Let's go to Michael in Newport What's going on Michael Hey what's going on man Well just fucking burning bridges one by one
Starting point is 01:24:39 Honestly what do you want to talk about pal Is Lou Holtz a cap guy No Hold on Michael I'm sorry we're going to get. Honestly, what do you want to talk about, pal? Is Lou Holtz a cap guy? No! No, no, no, no, no. Hold on, Michael. I'm sorry. AJ. AJ. Can't have it. He's a genius. I thought he may be a consult for some teams. He does know.
Starting point is 01:24:54 If you need to know how much money we have in the cap space for Pampers, I could tell you, or it depends, but outside of that, I'm not really sure. That's not my jersey. Michael, I am sorry, okay? I am so sorry that you had to be on the call when that happened.
Starting point is 01:25:09 You got the legend tie, come on. You will be. Thank you, AJ. One of my favorite coaches of all time. Stop. He is. You say, I'm not genuine with the OH. He can rip up a newspaper and put it back together.
Starting point is 01:25:20 And the bumblebee story is a real one, okay? There's no reason a bumblebee should be able to fly, but it can. And tonight, you're going to fly like a bumblebee. Its body is way too big for its wings. But what I'm saying is enough with what you're doing. That's not how it sounded when you told me that story the first time. I didn't tell that story ever in any other fashion to you. Please.
Starting point is 01:25:38 I would never. Must have been somebody else. Listen, me and Lou, we're boys. We attend the same Christmas parties together. Great guy. What's the newspaper story? He ripped that thing apart and did the magic trick, and by the end of it, he folded it and put it all back together because the headlines were a bunch of bullshit or something like that.
Starting point is 01:25:55 But in his roundabout way, yeah. This was head coach Lou giving a motivational speech, which he used to do like once or twice a week on that network. Yeah. Oh, yeah, that's right. That place. Dr. Lou. No, this is different.
Starting point is 01:26:09 I think Dr. Lou was a different segment. He had numerous segments. He did have multiple. The motivational speech was my favorite. It was a pregame speech, Lou. Those were my favorite. Do you remember that segment? That was a good segment.
Starting point is 01:26:19 Yeah, I'm sure you enjoyed it. I did. I loved it. Yeah, I'm sure. Everyone in America did. Yeah, I'm sure you enjoyed it. I did. I loved it. Yeah, I'm sure. Everyone in America did. Yeah, I'm sure you enjoyed it. That probably added to this distasteful bullshit that's going on
Starting point is 01:26:29 on this Friday out of that table over there. And you too, AJ. You too, AJ. What you've been doing. Unbelievable. Thank you, Beekeeper. You're welcome. Michael in Newport, what do you want to talk about? Yeah, man. So I trained some of the top NFL players and MMA fighters out here,
Starting point is 01:26:48 and we're talking about actually putting it in all the NFL training camps. And I wanted to see what you thought about that and if you're ready to jump on board and, you know, be the guru for it. AJ, your thoughts? What's he putting in every camp? I didn't hear I didn't listen cage I think
Starting point is 01:27:06 UFC cage sounded like an MMA gym which I like that good luck getting past Jay Glazer doing that cause that's his forte
Starting point is 01:27:15 has this guy reached out to him yet I have actually seen a lot of NFL guys training with Jay Glazer me too and Chuck Liddell yeah yeah
Starting point is 01:27:24 let's say I have fucking heavy hands guys training with Jay Glazer. Me too. And Chuck Liddell. Yeah. Listen, I have fucking heavy hands. Lightning in your fist, what'd you say? And thunder. What? What's wrong, Pat? Jay Glazer's a good guy.
Starting point is 01:27:54 Everything that is being said about Jay Glazer in here right now is bullshit. The opinions and impressions of the toxic table that have been called upon them by an Ohioan do not reflect that of the employer or their peers. I've done nothing wrong. Oh, shit. Don't even. I do not know why I'm being included. Let's go to Dustin in Canada. Save us, Canada.
Starting point is 01:28:14 What's going on? Hey, how are you, Todd, boys? How are we? Not too shabby. Just, I mean, might as well just mock all of sports at this point with what we're doing here. Jesus.
Starting point is 01:28:25 Dustin, what do you want to talk about, pal? About Mel Kiper. It's actually Dylan, but it's okay. I'm just happy to be on the show. You know, we're pumped to have you on, Dustin, and maybe pivot us away from something that is incredibly disrespectful. What do you want to talk about, old Dusty? I just want to talk about how you guys don't give Austin Matthews enough credit.
Starting point is 01:28:45 Like, did anybody see the goal he scored last night? Oh, it's filthy, wasn't it? Hey, he scored a hell of a goal there, Austin Matthews. Had a hell of a celebration there on the way after as well. I did see the Toronto Maple Leafs put out a collab with the Biebs. His Hold On song, they made a highlight video too and said, I thought the Biebs maybe made a Maple Leafs song. It was not the case. It was his song.
Starting point is 01:29:07 He just released this with Maple Leafs highlights. Okay. Yeah. He should do one, though. I guess he's a big Maple Leafs fan. Huge. He's not a Canadiens fan. Well, I think he's in Kings. Oh, yeah. Oh, he's got a couple teams. Well, he's Justin fucking Bieber. He's LA. He can't even know where he's from.
Starting point is 01:29:24 Yeah. Very fair. There's two towns. East and West Conference. Totally different. fucking Bieber. He's an LA team and where he's from. Yeah, very fair. There's two towns. East and West Conference. Totally different. Hold on. What's his song? Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. We need hold on. And then they got that
Starting point is 01:29:40 goal scoring on that video. Goal. Biebs has some incredible lyrics in that song, though. Real thought-provoking. I'm being serious when I say that. Some thought-provoking shit. He's also sick on the ice. Who, Biebs? He's got mitts, dude?
Starting point is 01:29:54 Yeah, I think him and Putin are going to play soon in their Summit series. What's the score going to be? That's going to be one of those situations where Elvis wants to see the president and my people need to talk to your people, your people need to talk to my people about the rules here. Putin-Beebs people will talk to each other. I wonder who will score more there. Beebs will beat the shit out of Putin. Oh yeah, you think Beebs
Starting point is 01:30:11 wants any part of fucking Putin's sticky mitts? I don't think so. Listen, Beebs dominated that all-star basketball game for a long time. If he's going to take down Vladimir Putin to be the best celebrity hockey player, I think Beebs will do it. He'll be sniping top ched, cuz. Easy.
Starting point is 01:30:28 You think James Kong will be there? I think James isn't a big hockey guy, but he is in the basketball game, and the hoop that he shoots at seems to be larger than the other side of the court. But you gotta play the game as it lies, dude. Isn't he getting ready for the James Kong Pro-Am Celebrity
Starting point is 01:30:43 Tour? I do believe Jimmy Kong's Celebrity Pro-Am Tour is happening because he does have the documented best score in the history of 18 holes of golf. That's right. James Kong Un, the first, he shot an 18 in a full round of golf over there. It's going to be tough to beat him there. Well, I don't think Biebs is trying the golf thing. I don't think Biebs, but Biebs could get Putin in hockey. I bet you he could swing a stick.
Starting point is 01:31:06 Biebs, if he wants to, if he needs to go take on James over there, I mean, he will do that next. But right now it's hockey time, pal. Ohio State's up 14. Let's go. AJ, as we head into this weekend here. OH, Pat. I know that we have a lot of things to talk about, you know, next week with the frantic free agency that is upon us.
Starting point is 01:31:30 It's not really Massacre Week because it goes until the 17th. So it's Massacre Week. Yeah, well, we're potentially lied to. You know, legal tampering. Yeah, we got until Wednesday. There's going to be a lot of shit that's going to pop off and we'll be here to keep up with it every single day. Can't thank you enough for choosing to listen to this show the fact that you guys allow us to spend time with you throughout your days nights mornings whatever it may be we are incredibly grateful another week down here okay next week is going to get frantic
Starting point is 01:32:01 free agency frenzy popping off. Teams cutting players, paying players, tampering popping off, new faces, new places, new teams, new steams, new everything going on. Start of March madness. Let's go, dude. If it doesn't get canceled by COVID. Yeah, COVID seems to be making some moves.
Starting point is 01:32:24 Yeah. By the way, also a moment of silence for our ESPN friends that cannot come on the show anymore. Yeah. Moment passed. We'll move along. All right, have a great weekend. From all of us to all of you, thank you so much. To all of our guests this week, thank you for your time.
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