The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 379 - The Slowest Day Of The Year, Ike Taylor, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: March 23, 2021

On today's show, Pat and the boys navigate through everything happening in the NFL right now and all the other pertinent things in the sports world on arguably one of the slowest information days of t...he year post the first two rounds of March Madness. Joining the program is friend of the show, 2x Super Bowl Champion, legendary Pittsburgh Steeler, 11 year NFL veteran, Ike Taylor joins the show to chat about what he's been up to, young cornerbacks playing in the NFL early, combine workouts, speed vs. competitive speed, his thoughts on JuJu coming back, and much more (28:03-51:11). Later, Pat and AJ Hawk chat about the different news stories percolating around the NFL, and swap a few stories (53:29-1:27:54). Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow and listen every day on Mad Dog Radio, Sirius XM Channel 82. We appreciate you all for listening, come and laugh with us, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello, it is Tuesday, March 23rd. Can't thank you enough for choosing to listen to this show. Good show today, hey. Great show today. Not a lot happening in the world of sports, but we tried so hard. It's still an entertaining listen. I think so. And if you enjoy the show by the end of it, we definitely appreciate you.
Starting point is 00:00:17 Please be a friend, tell a friend. If not, just act like this never happened. Yeah, this is one of those ones you might just, you know. See you tomorrow. Yeah, exactly. This is a pretty self-aware show. We understand what's going on here. Ridiculous day today on the show.
Starting point is 00:00:31 Cannot thank you enough for choosing to listen. Let's get to it. The world of sports is absolutely thriving. You might look around the internet and see not much popping off in the NFL. Maybe somebody will get signed somewhere. Congrats to Kevin King. Corner for the Packers. They signed a one-year $6 million deal.
Starting point is 00:00:51 Not 100% sure if all $6 million are guaranteed. Probably a $1.5 to $2 million cap it. That big move, bring them back. Add some depth to the secondary. But aside from that, there ain't shit going on. There is not much going on masker week happened it carried into brinks week brinks week happened
Starting point is 00:01:12 it is drizzled into this week a little bit we got march madness but sweet 16 doesn't start for a few days so right now we're having a phone bonanza yeah how about that a phone bonanza yeah how about that a phone bonanza yeah uh you you can call in and uh
Starting point is 00:01:32 one eight eight mad dog no oh one eight eight mad dog six yeah i think so yeah was it one eight six no one eight eight eight one eight eight eight six two three three six four six one eight eight mad dog get on the lines let's break the records that we have i cannot wait to hear your thoughts 1-888-623-3646. 1-888-MADDOGS. Get on the lines. Let's break the records that we have. I cannot wait to hear your thoughts, what you're thinking, your questions, what you're talking about. We do have a guest in the second hour. What's going on?
Starting point is 00:01:59 Mitt texted the group and goes, that's not good. The phone just locked. Restarting. Oh, jeez. Oh, no. The show stinks. Dude, jeez. Oh, no. The show stinks. Buckle up. This Tuesday, March 23rd, is going to be three hours of live action.
Starting point is 00:02:16 It's going to be wide open here today. We'll talk about some NFL teams. We'll give out some future bets that are available right now that Tone Diggs likes in a brand new segment called Tone's Future Fortunes. right now that tone digs likes in a brand new segment called tones future fortunes i think we're even making a graphic potentially for that so it has its entire thing digs will give out some locks coming into next nfl football season on what he feels like he was going to win the division where some good money uh sweet 16 we'll have a little bit of conversation about that a lot of teams you never fucking heard of her in there okay and that's what Madness is all about. And we made a graphic. Zito made a graphic.
Starting point is 00:02:48 Zito is very proud of this one. Hello, baby Z. Thank you, guys. Zito screenshotted somebody else's graphic and then put two little side cards on that thing to make it appear as if it was ours. Not a bad move, Z. Z did spend 10 to 15 minutes attempting to make our own graphic,
Starting point is 00:03:03 realized that it was going to be a bit difficult. So now we've just stole March Madness's NCAA. You guys got enough money. You don't pay the kids anyway. So we'll talk about what's going on in the tourney, obviously. We'll talk about there's something coming on in this NFL owners committee stuff where they're starting to vote on stuff. And I don't know when this meeting is.
Starting point is 00:03:22 It might be happening in a month from now. It might be happening sooner than that. End of March. End of March. So a couple weeks from now or maybe this week. There's a vote happening. 17 game season is either going to pop off this week or not
Starting point is 00:03:35 next season. Also Sky Judge is being talked about. This is something where the previous meeting I believe they pitch rules ideas and they're asked to be very creative with these rules ideas because maybe your incredibly obnoxious idea could lead to another thing that could make our game better. And there's an entire committee that is committed to changing the game,
Starting point is 00:03:56 evolving the game. We've seen the rules change a lot over the last 10 years, whether it's technology or fantasy football, whether it's safety. You've seen a lot of things happen. The kickoff, the extra point, the way people are allowed to hit, a strike zone, everything. There is even reviewing. Remember, that wasn't even something that was happening 10 years ago or even maybe a little bit more than that. But there's always things evolving. So in the previous meeting, I do believe the teams are tasked all year to show up at that meeting with these ideas.
Starting point is 00:04:24 Like, hey, this is how we make the game better. Some of them are ridiculous. Then I believe there's a group of people that kind of sort through those. And then this particular meeting, I believe, is when they enact something. I think this is when they start enacting some things. The 17-game season potentially comes to be. I would assume it's already been voted upon behind closed doors without an official vote because 11 year 110 billion dollar
Starting point is 00:04:45 media deal i would assume revolves around a potential 17th game plus an extra wild card weekend game on on each day or whatever so i'd assume that's already in there but the sky judge potentially becoming something is very good for football and i'm not just saying that is somebody who you know isn't scared to let a referee know, like, hey, you're a pretty big part of this. You need to stop fucking up. Like, I'm not, I'm okay. But also, if there's a good call, I'm also like, hey, ref, that's a good call.
Starting point is 00:05:14 Like, I feel like I'm very balanced with that whole thing. I always have been. Even whenever I played soccer as a child, always very communicative with the refs. They didn't always love it. They didn't wonder why a 10-year-old, 11-year-old was giving them like a, hey, good call, or hey, can't have it. You know what I mean? So there's always that type of thing. But as I got into college, you do, as a kicker, you always are talking to a ref whenever you go out to get the ball to kick off. So I naturally already have conversations. And then when you punt in college, you're like, which foot? You know, like, well,
Starting point is 00:05:40 watch some film. Okay. It's a big one. It's my right. But that conversation used to happen. Then in the NFL, the ref standing right behind me, the head ref is standing right behind me. And if they have any personality at all, they're going to give me like a little good luck. And then I am obviously, if somebody talks to me, I'm going to say something back. And in turn, I feel like I have a, a pretty, I think I have above average relationship with referees. Then I don't want to say anybody's ever played before, because I think quarterbacks have that relationship with themes than I don't want to say anybody that's ever played before because I think quarterbacks have that relationship with them but I talked to refs on a very regular basis whenever I was playing because I always had a lot of respect for referees I understand it is a
Starting point is 00:06:12 terrible position to be in nobody's showing up at the stadium or the arena going go stripes nobody nobody they have no fans nobody's pulling for them the only people that are pulling for them is whenever they fuck over the other team so I understand that it's very difficult being a ref. And with the advancement of technology, the entire world gets to see something that the people that are literally in the middle of the arena aren't allowed to see or don't have the privy to see. So that causes, especially with social media, with the group thing and how things can trend like that. Some of these refs look like the dumbest fucking humans on earth. And they don't even know it until they put the whistle down. They get in that locker room. They open their phone up and it's bling text messages from all
Starting point is 00:06:49 their old friends do not look on the internet right now also probably get a cop to escort you out of this game it is not a good position it's not an easy position so the nfl helping those refs out with somebody above that has access to all the replays and just like in the xfl uh before the you know covet came in they had the xbox controller they had the video they had the camera on the person they had the transparency of the conversation happening between the review xbox person and the ref on the field so literally as you're watching you're watching what replay they're seeing you're hearing the person go well we could see how you saw that as two feet in but really that toe took so that's not a that's not a completion and go ahead and just you don't have to run 100
Starting point is 00:07:34 yards to go look into a tiny little thing we don't have to act like there's anything else you can actually by the time you go to set the ball i'll already have that thing done for you and just say after review actually, actually, incomplete, go back. Everybody watching at home understands. The entire stadium understands, too, because on the Jumbotron, you can put that information up there. It'll expedite the game. It'll expedite the review process, and ultimately
Starting point is 00:07:56 in the end, it'll make the game a much more fair game where you don't have to rely on a potential back judge getting yips and throwing a pass interference, and then all of a sudden the game's different or a holding call that happens on every single thing but that kills a drive in the third fourth quarter and you're giving the ball back to an incredibly offensive team it's just like there's some calls in there that we can't review currently or maybe a ref
Starting point is 00:08:19 messes up and we all see that if we could get that thing fixed quickly, man, why don't we do it? Especially with the billions of dollars that are being gambled upon on these sports now. Let's not let some zebra, okay, who is either good or bad at their job that was potentially put in a bad position that can't see something, but the rest of the world can. So we're all fucked because of it. Let's go ahead and try to change it if we can. nfl can vote on that at the end of this week i hope they do at tone digs your thoughts on that even though it would be awesome there's no way they allow the audio of the sky judge talking to the to the ref on the field right could you imagine like hey i don't know because if there's any if there's any lack of confidence if there's any in the review person going oh if there's any
Starting point is 00:09:06 of that sound if there's if you hear if you even hear a oh or like maybe a like any of those sounds happen it's going to immediately call for an uprise so I would assume they won't let the audio happen now everybody will say
Starting point is 00:09:22 that's because well that's of course because Roger Goodell's got them on the line and going to change the audio happen now everybody will say that's because well that's of course because roger goodell's got them on the line and go and change the rules or whatever people will say that conspiracy you know fodder will begin off of that but i do believe it's because there is a chance that the human that's doing it could go oh man that on the internet that audio clip that would kill so the the immediate thought is it would be dope if they were able to do it exactly how the xfl did it which is what i was laying out but to your point probably not going to be able to have the audio everybody's going to say that's because they want to be able to tell the refs what to do but i assume it's because maybe hey listen listen
Starting point is 00:09:58 i'm not going to be the one that says no i don't believe that theory but if you want to run with that and you firmly believe it, who the fuck am I to tell you that's not what's happening? But the thought of one of those review people being a little bit not certain about what they're calling and then that game ending and then something happening and somebody getting fired and no playoff. There's just so much dependent upon all that. I would assume that's what they're thinking about,
Starting point is 00:10:23 but as long as they're even thinking about making this happen, I'm pumped about it. At Boston Conner, I would assume that's what they're thinking about. But as long as they're even thinking about making this happen, I'm pumped about it. At Boston Conner, I would assume everybody's going to assume Bill Belichick's going to hack right into that Sky Judge talking to the ref on the field, and it'll become conspiracy conversation for all time up there in Foxborough. Well, is the Sky Judge going to have the Alberto Riveron standard of what a penalty is, or are we all going to be on the same page here?
Starting point is 00:10:43 No, Zito, you're making a sound there because fellow Cuban brethren, Alberto Riveron, was put directly into our sights because he became the person that was in charge of overruling or overturning pass interference challenges, which I have been for
Starting point is 00:10:59 forever. That's a 55-yard penalty potentially. And they're like, well, it's too close to call, that's a 55-yard penalty potentially. And they're like, well, it's too close to call. It's like, well, it's a 55 fucking yard penalty. Can we not potentially figure out whether or not it's right or wrong? So then they put that into review
Starting point is 00:11:16 after the Los Angeles Rams Saints game and playoffs. We all saw that whole thing. And then Alberto Riveron was now the Dean Blandino. He was now the Mike Pereira he was the guy that ultimately was overturning these calls in his primetime games that we saw now I'm not saying he overturns every call in every game I do believe there's probably a flock of people in a room and I think I've seen a shot of it it's just basically people with chairs like
Starting point is 00:11:42 an office with just TVs everywhere yeah it's pretty crazy people with chairs like an office with just tvs everywhere yeah it's pretty crazy but i just automatically assumed in a primetime games like okay this is alberto riveron doing this and there would be blatantly obvious pass interference happening and they wouldn't overturn it because they didn't want to basically in my eyes alberto riveron didn't want to make the on-field refs look bad because the on-field refs were not happy about the potential chance of a chance of a challenge of a pass interference because that's a judgment call so now you're taking away my judgment like you're stripping me of my judgment i am a referee that's what i am so alberto riveron i
Starting point is 00:12:15 thought he was sticking up for them all the time turns out alberto riveron sent us a message via one of the previous ones to tell us he was told to be on a completely it had to be clear and obvious or blatant or whatever so even though the entire internet might have agreed on something alberta river on had to hold the ruling to a different standard that's just stupid like let's get x players in there okay and obviously they're gonna be like well maybe there'll be a conflict of interest okay get a bunch of them that just can go on different games get an x player in there now you're helping out retired players tell them exactly what you're looking for let them be the judge and by the way if they get it wrong have them fucking speak have them come out and speak
Starting point is 00:12:52 about why they made the decision i think it'll make everybody happier but holding calls as well that's a 10-yard drive killer yeah pass interference is a killer it's just there's a couple rules in there i think we could expedite and i'm happy they're voting on it this weekend because at least they're thinking about it this week. So the 17th game probably going through. Hopefully Sky Judge does too. But I believe the 4th and 15th, seven onside, was 16-16 last year. I assume they're voting on that again too.
Starting point is 00:13:15 I would think. So I'm intrigued by that because if you're a defensive-minded coach, I assume you're going, no way in hell are we doing 5th and 15th. No. Because what we just said, pass interference now extends the game. If there's a hold or a grab first down, automatic first down, there's so many things that can happen in that. And the onside kicks, not surprise onside kicks,
Starting point is 00:13:36 but onside kicks continued to fail miserably this year. I mean, Youngho Koo, shout out. Shout out. And, oh, my God. He was on the show. Sanders. Jason. Jason Sanders. Jason Sanders down in Miami.
Starting point is 00:13:49 He also very good at it. But there's only a couple. I don't know, man. The fourth and 15 would be electrifying. Oh, yeah. If I had money on that game. What if a pick six happens? Or if pass interference that has to go to the review booth on the onside kick play.
Starting point is 00:14:04 Then you got the Xbox controller up there like, I don't know. It wasn't egregious. Well, it's first and 15. There's four seconds left. They had to go for a Hail Mary instead of the onside kick, right? So then if there's a defensive penalty on, if they run a hook and lateral or whatever it is,
Starting point is 00:14:22 that extends the game another play. Yeah, on time down. So then that onside kick becomes, you know, fourth and 15 that then becomes a first and 10. It would get pretty electrifying, but there's a chance you could get royally fucked out of something, which I assume is also a thought happening in these votes. Is there any chance you think that they do change?
Starting point is 00:14:42 You mentioned the holding call for the offense. Do you think they'll change that to a five-yard penalty so it doesn't destroy the drive? I've been pitching that for a long time, too. I don't know why I don't know why that... Defense would be pissed. I don't know if they would. I think defense would even be like, yeah, when we hold, it's five. When they do, it's ten.
Starting point is 00:14:58 It's still, five yards is still in the game of we need to get ten. Five yards is still good, but the 10 yard holding penalty is just so devastating to a drive it is it is just fuck you're done basically okay so now it's second and 20 or something like that it's like you got no shot you might as well just punt and possessions are so important a five yard loss that's like a sack. So that happens. The 10-yard loss, though, is a massive sack.
Starting point is 00:15:28 That's quarterback sprinting back. I think the holding penalty should change. I think the sky judge should change. And as somebody who has, I believe, the record for the most amount of successful onside kicks in one season, I'm tied with somebody, I think. Yeah, go ahead and get rid of it. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:47 It's tragic. It is the most selfish. Yeah, if I had to vote, I'd say get it out. Nobody ever kick him ever again. That'd be nice. No. I think there's an art to kicking on sides. And I think you saw Young Ho Koo was good at it. He was a talented ball striker.
Starting point is 00:16:02 But I think with the rules, it has then led to people saying, like, all right, I'm not going to waste my time potentially ripping my groin, breaking my toe, which is what you have to do whenever you're kicking a high hop onside kick. You have to just jam your toe straight into the top of the ball. It does not feel good. It hurts. Your hip flexor hurts. Your groin hurts. And to get good at it, you have to work. I used to have to work two, three times a week in the offseason on these things to get good because I wasn't great at the beginning of my career.
Starting point is 00:16:30 And I was like, I should be. I could do anything with a soccer ball. I can do anything with a football. I should be good at these. And I had to go to work. And I remembered why I wasn't good immediately upon starting to practice. Because as soon as you start, it's like, oh, my God, god my fucking toe just got your obviously your toenail turns black and blue you have that entire thing but then also your shoes your cleats are you know fine leather now so you're starting to
Starting point is 00:16:55 like rip a little bit at the scene i mean it is you got to really commit to it so that's why i appreciate whenever somebody hits a good onside kick because i'm like okay that person has worked on that but i think a lot of guys are like I'm choosing uh no pain with the way the rules are kind of set up it's gonna be hard to see I'm gonna turn that thing on the side I'm gonna spin it you know that worked that one time because uh Cowboys special teams are just absolutely stooges out there but to get a good onside you got to really work at that and guys used to do it but I can understand why guys won't anymore because it's like we've got no chance of getting this.
Starting point is 00:17:27 We've got five on one side. We can't even overload. We can't even run up. They have to be at a standstill, so we can't run any stacks, which could potentially – because you're running like sets over there. You have one guy going, and then somebody's looping around so that person can get it. You're running like actual routes on those guys
Starting point is 00:17:43 if you get good at kicking that thing. And it's just like now there's no chance because there's no running starts no overload anything like that so they killed the onside kick but they killed it because cte which by the way i'm happy they did it for the good of the get for the good again was there someone that like told you hey this is how you have to do it for to be good or was it always known this is how i just it's trial and error there's a couple guys that used to be able to do it with the inside of their foot, and I tried that a couple times. I'm not flexible. Yeah, so we got a little camera on it there.
Starting point is 00:18:12 Shout out to the hammer. Oh, gosh. Is this one easier? Yeah, yeah, that one would be easier there. So whenever you kick an onside kick, you're basically legitimately going straight down on the ball with your toe, hitting the peak of it, and then trying to clear your foot out of the way so that it can bounce behind you, basically. So to do that, your hip flexor has to open that thing up. Your groin is pulling, and you're just going straight down on the ball.
Starting point is 00:18:37 Bang! And then it's going up into the air behind your leg, basically. There's a couple guys that were able to do it with the inside of their foot. Janikowski was very good at it. Mason Crosby was very good at it. He used to be able able to do with the inside of their foot janikowski was very good at it mason crosby was very good at it he used to be able to do with the inside of his foot i don't know how the hell he did it where they would just drive the inside of their foot into it and they were able to i was never able to do that but it used to be an art janikowski used to be able to fucking just pop it like it would seem like he was doing nothing and i think that was why a lot of people were talking about how good of a soccer ball striker he was and i was
Starting point is 00:19:04 always like i'm pretty fucking good, too. And he was, like, so good at it. It, like, made me better. And Crosby was another one. But now you can see how you wouldn't want to spend 40 minutes of your time jamming your toe into the top of a football whenever there's a chance that you're going to have no shot of getting it. That's why I have mad respect to young Hoku and Jason Sanders making it happen. Yeah, to your point, like, I feel like six or seven years ago when a team would line up for an onside kick there was like a legitimate like 15 chance like hey we actually might get this now it is virtually zero so like it's unfortunate because
Starting point is 00:19:34 i do still love the onside kick it i mean it you love the thought of it exactly that's the thing like i love the thought of the onside kick and i think because they change the rules now a lot of people would say that the rules are changed because of what we were doing in Indianapolis, which that is quite an honor, that whole thing. But with the way the rules have changed, I talked about the first year when the rules changed. I'm like, these guys just got to get better at onside kicks. And then we saw it again the next year, and I was like, these guys got to get better at onside kicks. And then I asked somebody, I'm like, why aren't you guys fucking working on it?
Starting point is 00:20:04 And he was like, man, there's like's like i mean we watch film nobody's open like because you can watch film of those onside kicks and you can see like oh if we would have hit it a little bit further there was a guy that would have had a chance to get it or if we would have hit it a little bit more inside towards the number there was a guy now it's like they're all met five yards there's just no chance really you got to get real creative i'm like oh that makes sense so i think we all love the idea of the onside kick i love the idea of the onside kick i enjoyed the hell out of the onside kick but i think with what the rules have become due to health and safety uh of the future i think it's damn near impossible to get great at those again i don't think it's gonna be possible and the one thing i do wonder too is like and we'll see if they actually do it
Starting point is 00:20:43 but if you have like a just a juggerut offense, like if they would be able to like use this to their advantage and get up to the point where it's like there's no way they could come back. Yeah, well, the 4th and 15 thing, you think to yourself, like what you just said. If Patrick Mahomes and the boys are rolling in the first quarter after they score, okay, let's go 4th and 15. Okay, let's do that again. I think they're only allowed to do it two times.
Starting point is 00:21:04 I assume you'd have to save one. I don't know. There's going to be rules, I think, behind it go fourth and 15. Okay, let's do that again. I think they're only allowed to do it two times. I assume you'd have to save one. I don't know. There's going to be rules, I think, behind it, that whole thing. Maybe they'll be only within like two minutes. I would assume if it made sense it would be a fourth quarter or two, like that type of thing. Like within two minutes, either half or you're allowed to do it. Because if you're the Chiefs and you have a drive where it appears as if
Starting point is 00:21:24 the other team can't do a damn thing, like, let's run that thing back. Let's go. Hey, let's run that thing back. Let's go. And then all of a sudden you got, it's like in a track race, four by one, when you got some blazer running anchor or whatever, but race is already done, pal.
Starting point is 00:21:43 Like the offense doesn't, they're going to have to figure that out. So I would assume it would be a time restriction and that whole thing. But I think I'd be pumped for the fourth and 15. I think I would be the last person that people would expect to be all in on this, but it just feels as if you're, you're left with no shot as a kicker to really make something happen. Now I don't want to change the subject. Jay, did you just answer a fucking phone call in the middle of it?
Starting point is 00:22:02 Did you see that? Oh yeah. Ty was talking and Jay's on the phone in the back yeah we get random like uh bad there's four last week key bank calls us like once a week from across the street yeah i think so i hate him what the hell i hate him just wanted to check in see how you're doing hey jay just literally while you were talking jay just picked up a phone maker i'm like who the fuck is jay talking last week we had two car warranty ones. It was kind of weird.
Starting point is 00:22:27 I'm getting a lot of those lately. That's spam. That's what I'm saying. So what happens? My unsubscribe thing expires? It must. Believe so. Because I'm getting shit in the emails again that I've unsubscribed to a year ago, I think.
Starting point is 00:22:41 And they just put that back out there? Oh, yeah. Have you gotten the calls yet where they say there's a warrant that's been issued for your arrest unless you can resolve it? Oh, my God. I've got to pee in my life.
Starting point is 00:22:51 Holy shit. Someone finished business back in New York, I guess. We did do a background check, but goddamn. I mean, hey, you slipped through the cracks there. So what's going on now? You're getting called, and then you've got to give them your social? Yeah, it's like an automated message.
Starting point is 00:23:04 So it's like Stephen Hawking's speak and spell hello there is a warrant out for your arrest please call that number to resolve this issue immediately
Starting point is 00:23:12 also if you could what do they do they get your social security number and then what does that do they can get into your accounts
Starting point is 00:23:19 with your social security right open up credit cards in your name buy houses under your yeah that's unbelievable.
Starting point is 00:23:25 Oh, yeah. Hey, those super smart folks, whenever they decide to go that way, I mean, they know it too now. They absolutely know it. I guess there's an entire documentary about these super smart people that just, you know, 8chan, 4chan, whatever the hell that is, on the QAnon thing. You've got these super smart folks that are just like,
Starting point is 00:23:44 I've decided I would like to ruin your life. Gotcha. It's unbelievable. Didn't that almost happen to Connor? Sure, it did. Wait, you got your social stolen? No, no, identity in Rhode Island. Some guy stole my stimulus.
Starting point is 00:24:01 So you're so scared. That is definitely part of the package. Hopefully I'm in the bundle. I definitely part of the package. If you're right. Hopefully. I was talking about the hackers coming at you. Oh, yeah. The hackers did come at me.
Starting point is 00:24:11 We will not speak on them anymore. Oh, because you said you were talking about UFC. Not me. Not anymore. Yeah, you were. Scratch from the record.
Starting point is 00:24:21 Yeah. Dump it. Dump it. Let's go to Wolfie and Charlotte. What's going on? Wolfie. What's going on, Wolfie? Hey, Wolf. What's going on, boys?
Starting point is 00:24:28 Hey, just hanging out here on a Tuesday. We basically hammered home all the things there is to talk about in the first 20 minutes, and now we got two hours and 40 minutes. What do you want to talk about, Wolfie? I know there's a little talk about Gronkowski leaving Tampa to go somewhere else for some money. Do you think he would have given up the opportunity to play against Belichick next year since
Starting point is 00:24:50 the NFC South plays the AFC East? Oh, I didn't even think about that. I'm not 100% sure that went directly into his motives or thoughts, but I do find that fascinating if that's true. Is that true? The NFC South plays the AFC East? His other offer, though, was the Bills where he would have played twice.
Starting point is 00:25:07 Twice a year. And he would have went home. But I do like the thought of Gronkowski thinking like me and Tom taking on Bill next year for sure. We got to do that one more again. If that Gronk house are like, I was going to do a reenactment of a Gronk family gathering. I'm not sure I can get to that level.
Starting point is 00:25:27 Oh, the draft one? Dude, not just the draft one. You see them on Shark Day? Yeah. Anywhere the Gronks go, it is turn to 2000. It is fantastic. Just wrecking balls everywhere. I just tried to potentially get there.
Starting point is 00:25:39 Yeah, but the thought of the Gronk wrecking ball family, they're all yoked. Oh, yeah. Absolutely yoked. Freak athletes love family, they're all yoked. Oh, yeah. Absolutely yoked. Freak athletes. Love protein, love work, or whatever. Like, hey, here we go. The thought of them saying, me and Tom get to fucking beat up Bill.
Starting point is 00:25:54 Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! In New England, it'll be as well. Oh, yeah. Fans will hopefully be back. I'm sure that's going to be a prime time one.
Starting point is 00:26:03 Not sure how the Texas Rangers stadium guinea pig social test is going to go, but hopefully that goes well so we can get some fans in the stands for when Tom and Gronk come back to town. Hell yeah. That'd be great. Who else is potentially going to be down there? Oh, no, Kyle Van Nooye's back
Starting point is 00:26:19 with the Patriots. Try and bring him back with the Patriots. You know, when Peyton came back to Indy and played, Robert Mathis, there was a – now, at that time, obviously, I didn't know much about player props and betting and anything like that. I knew that it existed. I grew up in Pittsburgh, a lot of Italians. Obviously, you know that it exists.
Starting point is 00:26:40 But that game, you could have bet everything that you had that Robert Mathis was going to get a sack on fake man like that was very he stripped actually i think we got a either a safety or a touchdown out of it actually like it but that game it was just like there is a two thousand percent chance that robert mathis is going to get a sack here and lo and behold big time play happens it i assume there's chance okay no because kyle van noy's already been maybe kyle van noy's like i gotta get i'm gonna going to get Tom. Robert said, I saw this guy in practice every
Starting point is 00:27:08 day and was not allowed to touch him. He hates quarterbacks. He hates quarterbacks. He'd get in there and he had to do a full on, like whatever. It was just like a guarantee that whenever that, like, that was an awesome little field. I wonder if Kyle Van Noy would do the same thing. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:27:23 Well, for those guys, right? Just like having a sack on a quarterback like Brady or Manning is something that you throw up there. Yeah. Put it on the mantle. Yeah, because Robert had like probably 15 to 16 against Tom Brady over the years, if I had to guess. He's like, I got Tom. I got Aaron. I got Brett. I got him.
Starting point is 00:27:39 Who the hell? Fucking Peyton. Wow. Oh, and I wasn't. Huh. Hmm. Strip sack tonight.. Oh, and I wasn't. Huh. Hmm. Strip set. Touchdown.
Starting point is 00:27:48 He's a fucking. That dude was unbelievable to watch play football. He was on the kickoff coverage team for the first year or two that he was in the NFL. Yeah. Robert Mathis. No thanks. Right down the middle. Oh, it would have been fucking awesome.
Starting point is 00:28:00 Hey, I'm going to lay this one up short, all right? Joining us right now, fresh out of an exercise, a workout, I believe, multiple-time Super Bowl champ and founder of One of a Kind Cigars, ladies and gentlemen, Ike Taylor. Thank you, Ike. Okay, right to the nip. Hey, what's going on, dude? How you doing, pal?
Starting point is 00:28:18 Good angle here. Man, I'm fresh. I'm fresh out of the shower, bro. I told you I did my 10886-6440s. I had a lot of time in my neighborhood. You heard me? Who's timing that? You got a neighbor kid with a stopwatch out there?
Starting point is 00:28:36 Nah, they're supposed to be in school. I hope they ain't timing. Or he need to be in school virtually. I know I probably did it around lunchtime, so he need to be eating school virtually So I know I probably did it around lunch time So he need to be eating some Some vegetables Or some fruit Hell yeah
Starting point is 00:28:51 Is he a vegan? Who me? No the kid Vegetables fruit Nah I'm just trying to keep the kids healthy P-Max Need your vitamins Let's talk Let's talk hey did
Starting point is 00:29:06 you see um let's talk about pro day real quick talk about running and timing rondale moore purdue i don't know if you saw this he ran a 429 i'm not sure if it's laser time or hand time though is that as a person that's very into physical fitness and much faster than i would ever be is that a big deal you think or are humans getting naturally faster? Yeah, you got to transfer that to the field. I think he ran a 4.29. The cornerback from Georgia ran a 4.26. And I think another corner ran a 4.27.
Starting point is 00:29:36 So you got a lot of these guys running 4.2s, but you know them hand times. And I was able to run a 4.2 hand time. I think it was like a 4.27. I ran hand time for my pro day. But you still got to transfer that over to the field. You know that, P-Mac. You've seen a lot of guys who can run with no equipment on. Then when they get to the field, it's like, dang, bro, where that 4.2 at?
Starting point is 00:29:56 Well, Bill Belichick actually came out and did an entire thing about how competitive speed is what he described it as. I believe that was his term. And he was talking about how I'll get some guys on the team that are on the kickoff team who run 4-4s, and they're the fourth person down there, and they're behind somebody that ran a 4-7, a 4-8, or whatever. We judge competitive speed versus straight-line speed. 4-2-something says that you're an explosive individual, right?
Starting point is 00:30:22 You have the ability to go. What do you think the big difference is transferring and actually playing football and applying this underwear gym Olympics that's happening in pro days to actual football man this you know I don't know if you ever heard of coach Brooke Johnson so coach Brooke Johnson is an Olympic coach he's been coaching coach been coaching at least 60 years he's been coaching at least 60 years. He's been coaching Olympians for 60 years, and he's always talking about running fast and relaxed. And it's only a few guys in the league who run fast and relax. And one of them is Tyreek Hill.
Starting point is 00:30:56 That's why Tyreek Hill is able to pull the weight early and often because during crunch moments, which we might call them pressure moments, you know, Tyreek, like, man, I'm about to hit the burners. But he's not tensing his body up. You know, once you tense your body up, you tend to run like a robot. So he's still running fast and relaxed like he's having fun. So only a few of them guys can transfer what they ran in the 40s to what they actually do on the field.
Starting point is 00:31:22 So you think we should watch how they're running during these 40s and be like that seems like that is a bit robotic that might not transfer you think that's a real thing yeah nah so if you slow motion all the 40s or if you just put them slow in general look how look how relaxed they face up they face is and the face tells you everything on how fast somebody is running if you look at Usain Bolt and you see how relaxed he is, even though he doesn't have a quick start, he's still running fast and relaxed. And if you look at other guys around him that tend to tense up, they tend to decrease their speed because their body is getting into a robotic form.
Starting point is 00:31:58 That's interesting because on football, if you're just running outright and you're tense, you're not even thinking about a potential ball that's coming or a human that's going to kill you it's who's that it's like a natural confidence and you know because these people come out of nowhere during these combines and pro days there's they're now granted Kyle Pitts ran a 4-4-6 unofficial and he is a freak athlete but there's always and I'm not saying Rondell Moore came out of nowhere he had a good freshman season or whatever and could but there's always these guys that come out of nowhere and they turn heads and everybody's like, well, are they going to make it in the NFL?
Starting point is 00:32:28 I think Kyle Pitts is going to make it in the NFL. Let's not put him into that category. But I'm just saying there's some people that get real fast and it's like, will they be able to transfer it? I'm not sure. I mean, Randy Moss. If you look at Randy Moss, you saw how smooth and relaxed he always ran. He outran everybody.
Starting point is 00:32:44 It's crazy. People talk, Randy Moss has got to how smooth and relaxed he always ran. He outran everybody. It's crazy. People talk, Randy Moss got to be one of the best Hall of Fame receivers. You already knew what Randy Moss was going to run. He was going to run three routes. He was going to run the go route. He was going to run the post. Or he was going to run the wide receiver screen. And you still couldn't stop him.
Starting point is 00:33:04 You still couldn't stop him. Once Randy can be in front of you and throw his hands up about three yards, in the next six yards, he's running behind you. Hey, did he do that to you? Huh? Did he do that to you? No, not at all. Okay. It sounded like that was potential.
Starting point is 00:33:21 You saw him put his hand up, and you're like, no! Because that had happened. He was right next to guys or even in front of guys, and literally his hand is just going up to the quarterback. That corner has to be sitting at all this mother fuck. I got no shot here. That's a tough spot to be in. Hey, PMAC, I'll tell you what he did.
Starting point is 00:33:40 He almost took my hamstring off the bone trying to keep up with me. You were doing the. No, I stayed calm and what he did. He almost took my hamstring off the bone trying to keep up with me. Yeah. You were doing the. No, I stay calm and I stay relaxed. You know, what I mean by tearing the hamstring off the bone, you know when it's some good chicken that's been baked overnight and that thing slide off the bone? That's what my hamstring almost did. That thing damn, there it go like you playing the violin.
Starting point is 00:34:03 Yeah. My meat damn just slid off the bone on my hamstring trying to keep up with Randy. Okay, so there's always the conversation, and I'm not going to make you pick here because I think situations are situational, right, depending upon what offense you're in, who's the quarterback, blah, blah, blah. But in your years, you played against Randy. Did you play against Jerry ever? And also, did you get a
Starting point is 00:34:25 chance to play against tyreek or is that too late man i had the old jerry i had the jerry when he had the braids in his head so when he was with the raiders so i had the old jerry but i played against jerry i played against randy um i didn't have a chance to play against tyreek i just retired when obj was getting into the league under I remember me and OBJ were texting. He was like, dang, OG, I wanted some. I wanted some. I wanted some. And I was like, look, man, you know, my days are done. Like, man, you're going to start smoking all the rest of these corners, but I'm not just going to let you smoke me. But yeah, man, I left just in time because nowadays these guys, they moving.
Starting point is 00:35:06 Bro, you got to keep your 4-2. You can't run no less than a 4-4 keeping over these top-notch receivers. That's competitive speed or actual speed? We're talking about competitive speed. We're talking about let me put the equipment on and y'all running 40. Were you always fast guy on your team? I didn't know you ran 4-2 something. I literally asked that question without...
Starting point is 00:35:27 R.I.P. my dad, Ivan Taylor. But everybody who talks about my dad said my dad never lost a race. And my dad was like 5'8". And they said my dad used to work in teams and beat people in races. Hold on. So I assume you had to race a lot of people in practice as well. That is something that does happen, especially
Starting point is 00:35:43 in college. Somebody comes in, it's like oh, you're a fast guy. Okay, we're going to have a race. people at practice as well that is something that does happen especially in college you know somebody comes in it's like oh you're a fast guy okay we're gonna have a race in the nfl it happens oh you're a fat oh okay here we go we're gonna have a race i never competed in those i always i always opted just to watch those particular things but i assume you have some great legendary races under your belt yeah oh that's joey porter troy palomaro that's all it was me and chad scott i don't know if y'all remember the corner chad scott who used to play for pittsburgh i think i remember so we used to we used to uh we used to race to the 10 10 yards who can get to the 10 yard line the fastest and uh yeah he had to get some of young they called they used to call me young buck he had to get some of the young buck back in the day yeah so you were the guy that showed up and all of a sudden it was i've seen a couple of those two works like uh you used to call me Young Buck. He had to get some of the Young Buck back in the day. Yeah, so you were the guy that showed up, and all of a sudden it was –
Starting point is 00:36:26 I've seen a couple of those too where it's like you used to be the fastest guy. I just want to let you know they brought me in here now, and I've never not been the fastest guy on every team I've been. So we're going to have to handle this. That is awesome to see. It would have been cool to be a part of those sometimes, but that's just not a real thing. Diggs, what do you have?
Starting point is 00:36:42 I remember Ike when he got drafted because of that speed came in and he was returning kicks, which didn't last that long, but Ike came in and his kick returned. Ike, why? He couldn't catch the ball? No. It's crazy. Oh, wait, you couldn't catch the ball. Only caught picks
Starting point is 00:36:59 in the playoffs. I think I have the most picks in the playoffs and it's still in history. Go check it out. I only caught picks in the playoffs. That's the only time. I think I have the most picks in the playoffs in still the history. Go check it out. I only caught picks in the playoffs. I was like, dang, IQ really can't catch in the regular season, but why you catch all the picks in the playoffs? Okay, I guess we got to pay him. So I ain't even tripping on that.
Starting point is 00:37:19 But, yeah, I was a hell of a returner. I was a hell of a returner, bro. Punt or kickoff? Kickoff. At that point, you got to be different to play punt, bro. You got to be different to play punt, bro. You got to be a little bit
Starting point is 00:37:32 different to play punt, man. Before I got to smell another man's breath before he hit you and know what he ate and try to catch a ball from a kick or punt to you, you got to be a little bit different. Connor, what do you think? Yeah, Ike, we were talking about the possibility of a fourth and 15 play
Starting point is 00:37:52 instead of the onside kick. Is that something you think that should be implemented into the game? A lot of corners going to get targeted in this thing. I mean, they're getting paid, so you can talk to me how you want to talk to me. Yeah, I would agree. Why not? You know, you can take the one size off. You know, the game is changing, man.
Starting point is 00:38:11 I agree. And you got to be willing to adapt and change. Like, you can't think Flintstones all your life. You got to hit the Jackson sometime. So, yeah, I would agree, man. They come up with a good plan for it. Hey, you're a fucking fool, dude. You're a agree, man. They come up with a good plan for it. Hey, you're a fucking fool, dude. You're a fool, man.
Starting point is 00:38:29 Absolute fool. What a metaphor there. Just so smooth, too. He's used it before. Oh, yeah. That is a, I would assume regular. I'm cold with the wordplay in PMAC. I'm cold with the wordplay.
Starting point is 00:38:41 Hey, they don't give you enough respect on it. My homeboys, if they try to holler at somebody, holler at a little chicken on with them, they're like, hey, text him. Because, boy, your text game is something serious. Ty, what do you have? Ike, you were just talking about how everything's changing so much. Do you think young cornerbacks coming in the league now struggle more than they did when you came in?
Starting point is 00:39:04 Because it seems like a lot of these higher picks, these guys are struggling big time in their first year or so in the league now struggle more than they did like when you came in because it seems like a lot of these higher picks these guys are struggling big time in their first year or so in the league man they got a lot to do with coaching bro like i was very fortunate to have you know um a dick laboe who was my dc or ray horton Who played in the league? Darren, Coach Darren. Who played in the league? Coach, God, I'm drawing a blank. Yeah, you hate him. I didn't have four coaches that played in the league that coached me. It's hard to find good coaches.
Starting point is 00:39:40 It's more for the offseason. Look at it. The punch to punch and step. It's more for the offseason. Well, you're looking like a robot, P-Mac. Well, that's because I'm stressed. I'm not relaxed. I'm not used to doing this, all right?
Starting point is 00:39:49 I'm running a 4-2-9, but it's every little piece of me that I got. Hey, P-Mac, you remember we played 2-on-2 back in the day, me, you, and MJD? So tired. Do you remember how tiring? You remember that? Hey, look. Hey, Ike was all decent, huh? That boy was decent, decent.
Starting point is 00:40:06 You weren't bad. I mean, you were in much better shape than the rest of us. I feel like I knocked down some shots, though. I felt pretty good about where I was. No, no, you got a wet. I said you got a wet jumper. Now, don't get it twisted. P-Mac got a nice little jumper.
Starting point is 00:40:17 Hey, now, that was a game where we were filming something here in town at Hinkle Fieldhouse. It was Damshack, Ike, and MJD. And it was me and Damshack, right? I think we were a team against you and MJD or whatever. And it was a game to 11, I think, which, by the way, if you're not playing basketball on a regular basis, a game to 11 might as well be a 26.2-mile marathon.
Starting point is 00:40:39 So it was filming for content or whatever. And I knew we were not going to get out of there until we got to 11 so i was like all right i just gotta start fucking pulling everything i started shooting from everywhere they started following but i mean ike hey i can play with feisty or is a good player out and in great shape obviously you know what i mean that whole thing hey i got a question for you talk to me these wide receivers are coming out of college. And, like, the content they're making. Can we lower that thing off of it? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:10 We're losing half his face there. There we go. Hey, look what you like. There he is. Wide receivers now for content are going and working on their feet. They're coming out of breaks, I think, faster than they have ever. And not just because they're working on it, because it's like fun for them to do. So I forget who was talking to the Man to Man podcast with Darius and Antoine Bethea.
Starting point is 00:41:32 It was, I think it was Xavier Rhodes or maybe an older guy. But he was like, hey, these young guys, they're coming out of their breaks faster than the guys used to be able to do it before. And I don't medically assume it's because they have been working on that since high school like cutting on dimes do you think there's a potential transition here in power in the wide receiver world as these young guys come in and immediately or maybe more set up for the NFL game than they have been in the past especially with the past heavy colleges and everything like that man that 707 have changed the whole generation. You know what I'm saying? We talking about flag football at a competitive high level is what you call 7-on-7. And they do it now like baseball.
Starting point is 00:42:14 They do it year-round. You know, after the regular season, if you're in high school, man, you're going straight to 7-on-7. And y'all traveling. Like people really are across the United States. So they traveling, they being very competitive, whether it's locally or nationwide, and it's a muscle memory for these kids, for these wide receivers. So, you know, it's good for a corner, like the 7-on-7,
Starting point is 00:42:39 for the secondary guys, because you really have to hone in on your fundamentals, and that's what's not getting taught. You know, fundamentals on the defensive side is really not getting taught. If you're playing corners basketball on grass, just look at the wide receiver being a point guard, and you got to make sure he don't get to the basket. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:42:56 Hey, you see that Loyola? Yeah, you see that Loyola Chicago defense? Man. Hey. Man. Hey, them boys remind me of Arkansas. Remember Arkansas back in the day, 90 feet of hell? Mm-hm. Remember Arkansas basketball? No, I remember West Virginia, Press Virginia.
Starting point is 00:43:14 Yeah, yeah. I remember West Virginia doing it for a long time. With Scotty Thurman, hey, go back to Arkansas Razorbacks basketball back in the day, Lord have mercy. It was really 90 feet of hell, bro. It was really 90 feet of hell, bro. It was really like, it was really 90 feet of hell, P-Mac. Hey, let's talk about those seven-on-sevens real quick. We saw, I think Cam has one, right, that he's had for a long time.
Starting point is 00:43:36 Russell Wilson, I think, just got into the game. Go Hawks. He just got his own team. It's becoming like, it feels, I don't want to say like the cool thing, but a cool way for guys to give back to either their community or their position or football is to create one of these seven-on-seven. Are they academies? It's like an AAU team.
Starting point is 00:43:55 Is that kind of how it goes? Do people get recruited? I don't think I understand the seven-on-seven world enough, especially with you saying that. It makes a lot more sense because every weekend in the summer, you see guys just getting mossed every single – andreek hill got it from one seven on seven guy that one time is that is that how it goes there's just different teams in different places they're all all-star teams how's it work man you gotta look at the and i think we're around the same age you
Starting point is 00:44:19 gotta look at the the seven on seven teams now as in the basketball in new york to pick up games what what was what what was the event in new york ruckers park the major huh rucker park is that what you're talking about that's that's what seven on seven is today okay that's what seven on is today think about all the even col went to Rutgers. It's a lot of professional guys wanting to go to Rutgers. I'm talking about sometimes before the season, two days, three days before the season. It's a magnified camp that people can catch a name off of.
Starting point is 00:45:04 You know what I'm saying when you went to rock cuz you like oh snap when you had a cam seven or seven you're on this team you like oh snap when you're on a Russell Wilson football team seven or seven you like oh snap and it just it's a domino effect because you never know who the man might have or Scout Russell Wilson might have a head coach dog Scout just not not even not even to come and see who's out there just to man Cam might have a head coach or a scout Russell Wilson might have a head coach or a scout just not even to come and see
Starting point is 00:45:27 who's out there just to come and hang with Russell somebody and if Russell's there or Cam's there just like at Rucker Park whenever Kevin Durant
Starting point is 00:45:35 I think put like 35 up in a game there's cameras everywhere so if you're a kid who maybe you know nobody knows you come from
Starting point is 00:45:42 a small school it takes one highlight at one of these camps all of a sudden. Maybe you're in a conversation for a potential life-changing opportunity with a scholarship and everything like that. I'm happy there's more opportunities like that. Diggs, what do you have? I was going to ask you a question about the Steelers.
Starting point is 00:45:56 Obviously, they keep Juju, Juju signs, but let Mike Hilton walk. Steven Nelson may have to get traded or walk. Do you agree with keeping Juju maybe over those two corners? I mean, if you Wow. Don't say it. Personality of Juju,
Starting point is 00:46:15 he's a skillet. You know what I'm saying? He's very, very, very physical. He's the upgraded version of Hines Ward. He's a very physical receiver. He doesn't mind getting hit. He can block. He can go over the middle.
Starting point is 00:46:31 And he's a Pittsburgh kid. Like, the man been dealing with Snoop and his AAU team since he was a baby. And his favorite team always been the Pittsburgh Steelers. And the Pittsburgh Steelers wind up drafting him. He's like, I'm not going to leave. And Pittsburgh will offer me eight. Y'all going to offer me eight, y'all are going to offer me nine, but y'all need me to get these incentives to get more. I got a Hall of Fame quarterback.
Starting point is 00:46:50 I know the offense. Nah, I'd rather stay in Pittsburgh and try my luck and get more money next year. So that's how I look at it with Juju. Juju just, he's a Pittsburgh still a kid in his heart. You know what I'm saying? I'm upset that Mike Hilton left. Like, I love Mike Hilton. And I knew it was going to be hard to keep Mike
Starting point is 00:47:09 because he has the Pittsburgh Steeler personality. Like, he's a Steeler. You know what I'm saying? But Juju, Juju being a Pittsburgh Steeler before he was even drafted his whole life. Okay, so I respect your, obviously obviously og in the steelers world you saying that juju is an upgraded version of heinz ward that is going to cause some conversation like i'm just telling you that's going to cause some conversation as far as athleticism you know as
Starting point is 00:47:39 far as speed it's juju didn't did a 70 yard he didn't did an 80 yard juju didn't did a 70-yard. He didn't did an 80-yard. Juju didn't did a 65-yard. Juju got some long-ass touchdowns. Hey. And, by the way, plays physical as shit. Like, plays very physical out there. Everybody comes after him for dancing and everything. But on the field, he's a physical fucking guy on the field as well.
Starting point is 00:48:03 You got to understand, Juju been dancing since college, bro. Hey, they're all dancing, by the way. I think the entire generation has been dancing, I think. I'm 100% sure. You got the waggle waggle. Hey, you saw that? I'll come out of that thing.
Starting point is 00:48:18 With the waggle waggle. That's your new dance. Just call that thing the waggle waggle. We've been waggle waggling since college now. Let's not get crazy. Let's that thing the waggle waggle. Hey, listen. We've been waggle waggling since college now. Let's not get crazy. You know what I mean? Let's not. Let's be waggle waggle, dude. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:30 We just made that up, man. Make sure you give me a piece if you go out on LLC, that thing, the waggle waggle. You got to make a song. All you got to do is make one song, get it to Juju, Corvette, Corvette, waggle waggle, that thing, right to the top. I'm not talented enough to do that i assume you are though like man you got i seem to do that what's that you got a nice team for you to do that none of us can create a song in there none of us called griff we should call
Starting point is 00:48:57 dj griff yeah all right we'll figure that out ike what do you got for the rest of the day anything cool you're gonna smoke some of those cigars. By the way, great logo on the cigars. Congratulations. Yeah, so I got my one-of-a-kind cigars. They're Sumatra cigars. Sumatra? What are they? Sumatra?
Starting point is 00:49:15 Sumatra from Lancashire to back home talking. Another 40% from Connecticut, and it's wrapped in Nicaragua. So I've been working on this for like a year and a half. International business. Yeah, now I finally came out and I just wanted to smoke my own cigar. Like I got tired of buying other people's cigars. I said, heck man, let me work on my own. So I wind up, people wind up finding about the cigar.
Starting point is 00:49:41 They said, hold on, this is a hell of a smoke. You know what I'm saying? I'm like, for real? They're like, nah on this is a hell of a smoke you know what i'm saying i'm like for real they're like nah this is a hell of a smoke oh okay so now i gotta go through a whole another ten thousand cigars because people just waiting on them like i did ten the first time gotta go through another ten and i'm like man in my wildest dreams i never thought people would actually like a itinerant cigar so there. Supply and demand is a beautiful thing. Thank you, bro. Keep that thing going.
Starting point is 00:50:08 International business, especially in the time where the world shuts down, is quite impressive. I hope you continue to get that thing going. The boys in the office have purchased some. I don't think they've smoked any yet. They purchased some. Can't wait to talk about it. Congrats on that. Thank you for the convo.
Starting point is 00:50:21 You're the man. Appreciate you, Pete Mack. Hey, fellas. Appreciate y'all. Thanks for having me on the show, bro. Hey, listen. Appreciate you, P-Mac. Hey, fellas, appreciate y'all. Thanks for having me on the show, bro. Hey, listen, if you do the waggle waggle, though, get me in the music video. Oh, yeah. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:50:31 I do the waggle waggle. All you got to say is, I do the waggle waggle. I do the waggle waggle. I do the waggle waggle. I do the waggle waggle. I do the waggle waggle. I do the waggle waggle. I do the waggle waggle. I do the waggle waggle.
Starting point is 00:50:42 I do the waggle waggle. I do the waggle waggle. I do the waggle waggle. I do the waggle waggle. I do the waggle waggle. They say, do the waggle waggle. What you do? Do the waggle waggle. Yeah. Do the waggle waggle. At a wedding. Do the waggle waggle. At the birthday party. Do the waggle waggle.
Starting point is 00:50:49 At school. Do the waggle waggle. At work. Do the waggle waggle. We be doing. Do the waggle waggle. Oh, do the waggle waggle. What they say.
Starting point is 00:50:56 Do the waggle waggle. Now you hear. Do the waggle waggle. And we there. Do the waggle waggle. And we there. Do the waggle waggle. Hey, hey, hey.
Starting point is 00:51:01 Do the waggle waggle. All right. Ladies and gentlemen, Ike Taylor. I feel like we did it. Thank you Ike Taylor. Thank you, Ike. Thank you, Ike. Hey, when we patent that, we'll give you a piece. All right. All right.
Starting point is 00:51:13 People go through many changes as we get older, isn't that right? Oh, yeah. Hell yeah. For men, one of the less fortunate changes is that testosterone production begins to naturally decrease in the body. Did you know
Starting point is 00:51:25 this aj i am aware for most men it begins around the age of 30 and testosterone production declines by roughly one percent per year my god so if you live to 130 you ain't got shit left no minus 30 well if it starts around 30 this is one of those questions on a test where you know begins around 30 in the testosterone production declines by roughly one percent per year so does it start at zero or does it start at 30 that's the thing this is where they can get you it's one of them damn word problems this is one of those rounds where you're like well wait a minute uh which can i ask a follow-up? Anyways, I was good at those tests because I always viewed it as me versus the fucking teacher.
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Starting point is 00:53:23 Hey, Roman. Thank you, Roman. Thank you, Roman. Thank you, Roman. stuff that's good that's what i want now we know hey roman thank you thank you uh joining us is a man who's a college football national champion and super bowl champion ladies and gentlemen aj hawk not sure if your kids seen it yet but it's a new craze you gotta do the waggle pal great to have you on here hey good to good to be here. I did see a clip of this. And yes, it does make me laugh out loud when you start doing the dance at the end with your feet and your legs just splaying everywhere. I will tell you what, I do believe it is not going to be an easy replica. Watch your knee.
Starting point is 00:53:59 You got to watch your knee, man. My knees hurt watching you do that. Yeah, the knees. You got to really get some dexterity. I mean, when you start tossing those things out there, you know what I mean? That move, that ta, ta, pa. See, just knock that back. You got to have good space.
Starting point is 00:54:12 You got to have, hopefully, you got to have enough flexibility in the knees to be able to move there, let alone to catch the beat because the boys with the do the wagga wagga. Do the wagga wagga. Do the wagga wagga. Do the wagga wagga. You got to start to feel it Do the waggle waggle. Do the waggle waggle. Do the waggle waggle. Do the waggle waggle. You start to feel it.
Starting point is 00:54:27 You know what I mean? It's going to get a little bit aggressive. I feel like it has a chance that there's going to be some bad ones. You know what I mean? There's a chance there's going to be a bad one. But, boy, somebody's going to come through and slaughter it, and it's going to look much different than what I was doing there. And I'm going to say, hey, shout out that person doing it much better than me there.
Starting point is 00:54:44 Easter bee might be doing the waggle waggle tomorrow. Oh, my God. People are saying that Billy Bontz is very close to it. Oh, we got to change it then. Billy Bontz? Billy seems like he's an athlete, though. Tubes, what are you doing? Oh, it's exactly like Billy Bontz.
Starting point is 00:54:59 Yeah, that's probably where I saw it. Yeah, Billy Bontz is true. We got to make a new song. Got to make a new dance. Hey, shout out Billy Bontz. Shout. Billy Bounce is true. We got to make a new song. Got to make a new dance. Hey, shout out Billy Bounce. Shout out Billy Bounce. And by the way, exactly what I said, you know, much better than me. So it ended quickly.
Starting point is 00:55:14 The birthday of the Waggle Waggle and also the passing of the Waggle Waggle, Tuesday, March 23rd. Let's have a moment of silence. Couldn't do it in the hokos no way sorry dude you fall over you would fall over if you try to do that in your hoka could you imagine me falling off the side of their platform shoes those things but they are so comfortable i got on a stepper last night didn't even want to wear them because i don't want to wear down the the tread probably when i'm supposed to wear them got an extra nine inches there to wear down.
Starting point is 00:55:46 You're okay. But I don't want to ruin the look. The look of those things is as if you're on top of the world there. I'm going to have to get some grass-cutting pairs of the hokas. They have the showcase cocaine hokas that I wear in public. You know what I mean, AJ? I've heard there's bad news.
Starting point is 00:56:02 What? Oh, no? Who's? Oh, no! Oh, no! Oh, come on! Jed! Ladies and gentlemen, yet again, somebody has lost a job. Who is it this time?
Starting point is 00:56:13 The Pittsburgh Steelers have tweeted out from their own account, we have terminated the contract of cornerback Stephen Nelson. Now, he played opposite Joe Hayden, right, Diggs? Yes. Good player two years ago. Good player two years ago. Great player two years ago. Last year. Great player last year.
Starting point is 00:56:28 Above average. Okay, so this guy's going to have a market. What's his contract? Do we know what his contract is? He was due $14 million as a cap hit this year. Yeah. Sorry, $6 million. It saves him $8 million.
Starting point is 00:56:41 Thank you. Yeah. Why did they wait until now to do this? I'm flustered. I'm flustered flustered why are you flustered because there's been a lot more people that are leaving that defense that was pretty damn good last year corner was a position of depth and now with mike hilton gone and him gone it's it's very thin there well and it not just thin there by the way i believe the relationship
Starting point is 00:56:59 potentially pretty there was a tweet i guess sent out by out by Steven Nelson, at Nelson underscore Island, population two normally. Okay, making a public announcement is a little out of my character, but you guys made your decision. Please don't hold me hostage. Hashtag don't hold me back. Interesting from Steve. The plot thickens, AJ. What's going on over there?
Starting point is 00:57:23 I was going to ask before I saw that tweet, the wording of the Steelers tweet to say we have terminated his contract. Normally you would say we've released him or we let him go. We've come to terms with a release. Terminated is usually what happens when there's a falling out or the person gets in trouble or something like that. But I guess it's just they didn't appreciate his tweet, so right after that they terminated him.
Starting point is 00:57:45 Okay, so he tweeted that before he got cut? Yeah. Oh, my! Holy shit. Oh, my Lord! Not normally one for a public announcement, he said, but Yinz asked me to renegotiate my contract, it sounds like, and I ain't doing it.
Starting point is 00:58:00 Don't hold me hostage. Come on. They're like, you're right. Terminated. Oh, my God. It's getting heated in Pittsburgh. What's going down in the Three River City? This goes back to last week.
Starting point is 00:58:10 There was rumors that he wanted, this was his last year of his contract, he wanted an extension. They weren't going to give it to him before the season. So then they granted him, obviously, the right to go seek a trade. Once that happens, that's never going to happen. They're just going to wait for him. Oh, so that happened? Yeah, they did give him permission to seek a trade last week.
Starting point is 00:58:25 Hey, isn't that interesting? I always find that interesting. Hey, you know what? If you find somewhere else that wants you, you fucking go get it. That's a very interesting. Anytime they're like, we have allowed blah, blah, blah to seek a trade. Normally, that's somebody covering up some PR or something going on, by the way, there. I don't know how.
Starting point is 00:58:43 I don't know. It's just like the Russell Wilson, Pete Carroll stuff. I feel like, for me, I always appreciated the locker room so much that that type of shit, business shit, always stays out of it. But when business shit starts mixing in with that, and then it starts becoming public, I don't know. I think it's
Starting point is 00:58:58 going to start happening much more often because the amount of insiders and things that go out on the internet, we know everything now at this day. But I don't know how that affects the locker room. You know, AJ? Yeah, I think maybe as time goes on in the NFL, they just get over things easier. Maybe they don't hold grudges like the old school guys,
Starting point is 00:59:14 like you and I may do. Yeah, I remember what you fucking said about it. Oh, yeah. Oh, let me guess. Late to a meeting or something, too? Oh, yeah. I remember you didn't want to be here. I remember that.
Starting point is 00:59:23 You hated our team just like three months ago. Now, granted, welcome back. Great to have you. But now you're here. I remember that. You hated our team just like three months ago. Now granted, welcome back. Great to have you. But it's, now you're right. I guess that is kind of a grudge hold thing
Starting point is 00:59:29 and the guys nowadays are like, hey, we ain't got time for that. You got to do what you got to do. I got to do what I got to do. Let's go ahead and make this as good as possible.
Starting point is 00:59:35 And by the way, everybody has different motivations to play and whatever makes you play the best, who cares? And I think it is a much different generation
Starting point is 00:59:42 especially within the locker room but that's what they got to do, man let me hey you motherfuckers hold me hostage get me out of here i mean he has a point he has a little bit of a point if he knew they weren't going to work it out and they he was they were nowhere close to restructure or whatever yeah he should he's like i want to be a free agent when teams are looking to sign free agents not now when a lot of guys are already signed. Yeah, they already passed that wave, and hopefully, I assume he'll get signed somewhere. It'll probably be a one-year deal, maybe.
Starting point is 01:00:08 I don't know. Maybe he'll get big money. For him, if he wants a bigger contract, he's thinking, hey, the team's already, they've already spent their money. They've already spent most of their free agent money. Yeah, this is a tough time right now to become a free agent, but he's a great player. He comes from a great defense.
Starting point is 01:00:22 Somebody will sign him, I assume, but it's also a similar situation to what's going on with Stephon Gilmore, right? Stephon Gilmore has one year left on his contract. Defense of, like, MVP potential every single year. He's going to be paid a lot of money. This year he's not getting paid anywhere near what other guys anywhere near his level are getting paid. So the Patriots have always said that he's potentially a trade option. They've leaked it through the information. Let people know that Stephon Gilmore is available if anybody wants him. Let the media go ahead and kind of stir that up there. This guy,
Starting point is 01:00:55 one year left on his contract, probably going to get paid a lot of money. Steelers not going to pay him that. And I assume that this is a, hey, I need to get out of here to get somewhere to renegotiate now, extension, or do that. Give me one more year of a heads up. Much like the Stephon Gilmore situation, which I don't know how that whole thing plays either because he's a fucking game changer. He's like Revis. Oh, yeah. Gilmore is like Revis.
Starting point is 01:01:15 And Warren Sharp here tweets out, free agent cornerback signed for more than $10 million a year from 2015 to 2019. Here's an interesting stat. $15 million for josh norman in washington coming out of carolina he was lake norman in carolina for whatever reason they cut him say 15 14 and a half million tremaine johnson to the jets cut durell revis to the jets now when it wasn't he just signing like one year deals though wasn't that yeah 2014 he was in new england oh so let me see what the 13.5 million aj.5 million, A.J. Abouye, Stephon Gilmore, Janoris Jenkins. Basically, every corner that gets paid, they're saying,
Starting point is 01:01:52 either gets cut or traded. And I wonder why. Is that because a team automatically, they feel as if that is a super need that they have to have, and then they get like a couple years into the deal, and they're like, okay, we've got to start doing salary cap adjustments. Where can we trim from? Oh, here's somebody we think we can get rid of because they're not a quarterback or whatever. Is that the thought? Because if you have a lockdown shutdown guy, that helps everybody.
Starting point is 01:02:14 AJ, you can speak to this more than me probably. But when Revis was playing, the other 10 guys played a completely different defense. It was like two different defenses, right? It was Revis and a guy, and then the rest of the defense was doing their own thing. Am I wrong in saying that? No, you're absolutely right. And a lot of times when you have that shutdown corner, a lot of the best ones, they're going to travel too. So whoever the number one receiver is for the other team, they're going to follow that guy. And so the defensive coordinator can almost say, all right, you're in your own world over there, man. Us 10, like we can do so many other things. If we have, say our other corner isn't as good, or they have a good
Starting point is 01:02:45 number two receiver, we can give them some help with our safety over the top just because we don't have to worry about this guy. So yeah, it's huge, but I guess I don't know. I need to watch Gilmore play. Did his play slip a lot? What did he look like? I don't think so. He got injured. He had the quad. And him and Julian Edelman were
Starting point is 01:03:02 out for the same amount of time, right? I think 10 games. I don't know if Gilmore was out for 10 games games but i know edelman only played six i think gilmore might have played 10 actually oh gotcha see it was interesting because they were all the opt-outs and then you know then there was like guys well julian edelman's not playing for like the rest of the season that came out of nowhere gilmore was the same thing i was like whoa that's out of nowhere but i think the trade that they are seeking potentially is strictly because business they want to kind of that's kind of the patriot way but they i mean bill belichick whenever bill belichick legitimizes a a idea in football i think it should take notice revis okay was a guy bill
Starting point is 01:03:37 belichick was like i'll pay whatever the fuck it is this guy if i can if i can run a 10 person defense and a majority of the time this person is just out of the picture and the other team by the way doesn't even plan for that player to be in the game like that is just like hey we're just kind of we're just going to mail it in with our best player our best weapon by the way we're just going to mail it in and then I guess that is what you are going to have to play like then out of nowhere and I assume that's not an easy thing to do and as soon as salary cap gets tight assume that's not an easy thing to do and as soon as salary cap gets tight guys are probably like oh we got to do this away we can do this with
Starting point is 01:04:08 a zone or something like that that's interesting because there's only a couple of those dudes out there that can really fucking do it do you think with steven nelson he saw what adori jackson got yesterday and was like all right if we're gonna get me the fuck out of here like i could get that money they did you did you see the stats that michael lombardi tweeted yeah i didn't see lombardi's tweet i i knew he'd be upset with lombardi was not exactly thrilled yeah he he said it didn't make sense not that he wasn't thrilled i assume that he holds zero happiness or anything like that but he said the move from uh just a perspective of judgment didn't make a lot of sense to him but the giants said hey if he fits in our in our locker room this is the culture we want to build.
Starting point is 01:04:46 Let's go. Let's make this thing happen. The Giants making plays has been really cool to see. Now, will it work out? TBD. But I like them getting in the game a little bit. Yeah, and I think Joe Judge, he's probably a big part of that. He seems to be a great fit for what New York is,
Starting point is 01:05:01 and they want to see that they're making some progress, I think. Who knows? Let's see. There's a lot of pressure on Danny Dimes. He has more weapons now, yes, and a better team around him, but that just adds to the pressure. He needs to become the man. Oh, yeah, you know, because once you start getting players and spending money, by the way, expectations get high. And when
Starting point is 01:05:17 expectations aren't met, guess what comes? Disappointment! Disappointment comes when expectations aren't met. That's a little bit of trouble. I believe we have some more news happening right now. Is that right, Gern? We have something going on. Is it good or is it bad? Oh!
Starting point is 01:05:32 Good news! Good news! Great cash, homie. What if this was Stephen Nelson? I'm joking. Somebody got paid in the NFL. Ian Rappaport, or Rappsheet, is reporting the Broncos declined the option for Kareem Jackson,
Starting point is 01:05:45 but stayed in contact with him. Now they get him back to help their secondary in a very busy and productive offseason. The Broncos have a deal to bring back Kareem Jackson. Congrats to Kareem. Going back to Denver, which has a lot of question marks surrounding it. Is Drew Locke their guy? Are they trading for a quarterback? Is Vaughn Miller gone?
Starting point is 01:06:05 Is Vaughn Miller gone? Is Vaughn Miller back? Ian Rappaport followed up with this offseason, the first for GM George Patton, who after John Elway gave a promotion to himself and then was no longer the general manager, George Patton came in and said, Denver has added Kyle Fuller and Ronald Darby, signed Justin Simmons long-term,
Starting point is 01:06:24 and now brought back Vaughn Miller and now Kareem Jackson. That has a lot of important things. A lot of people point out Phillip Lindsey, though, did end up elsewhere. Who's the quarterback going to be? Is it going to be Drew Locke? Showed a lot of potential. But look at George Patton. Is that his name?
Starting point is 01:06:37 Yeah. George fucking Patton. Work out. All right. Look at him making moves over there in Denver, pal. I like him bringing in Fuller. Fuller is young. You bring him in on a one-year deal, he's a stud.
Starting point is 01:06:47 He can help their defense a lot. But can they score points? Yeah, that's like, hey, when Drew is playing and doing, when he's playing, when he's doing the whole thing, call that bitch my bodyguard. Yeah, that's my bodyguard. When he's playing,, he is very talented. I mean, it is cool to watch.
Starting point is 01:07:06 There's been bursts of just absolute awesome. Now, I assume that the situation around him is not ideal. I mean, Phillip Lindsay's a stud. Jerry Judy. Jerry Judy's out there. No offense. So it's like, at what point is it, how's the offensive line? There's always something you can ask about, right, for the situation.
Starting point is 01:07:24 I don't know if I watch the Broncos close enough. But if he can make a jump like Josh Allen, you know what I mean? If he can become like, now the game has slowed down, now I got a chance to do something. They could be like a real deal out there. Now they got to play Kansas City a couple times, which is tough. But they could be a real deal contender if Drew Locke can get it going. And if Drew Locke, the best thing about him, like, you know,
Starting point is 01:07:47 all that he does in dancing on the sidelines, whatever, if he has a great year, then, yeah, he's going to be the biggest star there is because he's going to cross over. But if he, his first couple bad games, okay, buddy, how about you? How about you quit dancing and get your head in the playbook? Like the stupid things that usually tend to happen if someone has a bad game and they have somewhat of a personality. Now, I do agree with that narrative that that does happen and that happened
Starting point is 01:08:07 to me a couple of times through my career but i don't think you dance whenever you're playing bad if you're drew lock right no you don't but even in times when he's young and he's not gonna be you say he's he hasn't obviously hit like what he's going to be as a quarterback he still has that that moxie that that swagger still in there. It's going to come out. Moxie. Good word, moxie. Moxie's a good word.
Starting point is 01:08:30 It's a good thing to have. Bad thing not to have. Broncos are loaded at the skill position. Yeah. I assume that's a pretty ideal quarterback chance, like where you'd want to go to. You know what I mean? Denver, pretty cool city.
Starting point is 01:08:43 Yeah. Great laws. Their whole line isn't very Denver, pretty cool city. Great laws. Their whole line isn't very good, though. Schlereth is always going off about it. And Lombardi always talks about the left tackle. I believe right there. Just hold. Hold!
Starting point is 01:08:54 Hold! Hold! Let's go to some phone calls, shall we? Hey, Steve Nelson, Pittsburgh. I'm becoming a... Look out. What happened? What happened?
Starting point is 01:09:03 The Steelers, the Browns now? How about them say, we terminated the contract. Just want to let you know, we saw that tweet. We raise you one. No, it worked. Steven won.
Starting point is 01:09:13 Think about it. He said, stop holding me hostage. And they said, all right, here you go. Granted. So he's like, yeah, good. He was already getting cut anyways.
Starting point is 01:09:19 I would have done this a week ago. But in Savage tweets world, I do feel the Steelers did answer. You know what I mean? Because that wording had to be passed by people yeah you know i mean there had to be a just like just like we talked before the pre-conversation is what i'm about like how did we get to this particular point i used to think about like rap songs you know i listen to a lot of rap songs you know it's motivating you know like hey let's go and get it basically even though most rappers have now turned to you know being like in love and all that i respect it hey i
Starting point is 01:09:48 respect but i still like the thought of like hey we need to absolutely crush everybody but there's some lyrics that go into some rap songs where i think do you think walked out of the booth where they fucking killed it they're like crushed nailed it. Pussy, money, weed. Pussy, money, weed. Pussy, money, weed. Run that back. We dunk. Yeah, we fucking killed it. Yeah. Crush.
Starting point is 01:10:10 Run that back. I like to think about the thoughts that take place before things happen. Like the, we terminated this dude. That was a conversation that happened. And that was a direct rebuttal to said tweet from him. And that's something that's fascinating. If it started with, hey, we let go of Steve and Nelson. No, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 01:10:30 We terminated his ass. We have agreed to a release and blah, blah, blah. No. We didn't agree. No. Get to the chopper. We terminated. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:38 He was on a whiteboard, and they just kept crossing the word out. Well, seems he did tweet. Read that tweet one more time. What was the hashtag? Ha! Get his ass. Terminated. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:51 Fucking do it. Run it. Let it out there. How do people feel about it? Good. Job well done. Let's move on. Let's put out a jingle about our defensive backs.
Starting point is 01:11:03 I'm intrigued. I'm intrigued. I'm intrigued. What are they doing over there? Because they don't have a lot of cap, right? Steelers are kind of in a. With that, they'll have about $10 million-ish probably, I think, last time I checked. Okay.
Starting point is 01:11:13 Maybe give Juju a little bit more money, huh? Yeah. Sweet. Maybe renegotiate the Juju deal. Don't they have to address for life without Ben after this year? Not yet. Mason Rudolph is still there. And Doogie Askins.
Starting point is 01:11:25 Doogie. Are they both still on the roster? I do believe, yeah. Steelers, for whatever reason, refuse to move on from Mason Rudolph. They see something. They're like, let's do it. Let's keep it going.
Starting point is 01:11:37 This might be the year it happens. They move on? Hopefully. Doogie comes in. Dude, Doc Hodges came in there. It was just a whole new team that year when he got in there. I'm not saying anything. I mean, Mason Rudolph did do something.
Starting point is 01:11:50 We don't know what it was. Something had happened where he got his helmet ripped off of his head and batted in the head with his own helmet. So I don't know what he's like, you know, as a friend or whatever. I wanted to say, like, I'm sure he's a nice guy, but I'm not, I'm not a hundred percent sure. I do not know Mason Rudolph at all. I have seen him get hit in the head with his own helmet before on primetime television,
Starting point is 01:12:10 but it appears as a football player, maybe not an NFL guy yet. Maybe he'll do a big jump, but they do have to address that issue in Pittsburgh, AJ. That's what I'm saying. Like, do they do it in the draft?
Starting point is 01:12:21 I doubt they want to draft a quarterback in the first round. They'll draft next year. Yeah. But Mike Tomlin has a hilarious quote where he looked at Chase Young and he said, I don't ever want to lose enough games to be able to draft somebody like you. And then Chase Young laughed. Oh, thank you, Coach. He's like, no, no, no.
Starting point is 01:12:37 I'm being serious. I don't ever want to have the opportunity to draft somebody that's built like you because that means I've got to lose a lot of games. The Steelers are going to win games. The Steelers win games. That's what they do. So they'll always be in that spot draft-wise where it's like, okay, maybe not getting – but who knows who's a lock anymore
Starting point is 01:12:54 at the quarterback position, you know? Who knows who's a lock? Maybe they'll just – they re-sign Ben. Maybe they'll become a free agent team. It just looks for a free agent quarterback now that it seems like this is potentially going to become a carousel here as the years move on. As of right now, they have a top five in cap space next season. So, you know, if some quarterback becomes available,
Starting point is 01:13:10 you go get him there or draft him in the draft. Wow. Who's it going to be, AJ? Who do you think? Aaron Rodgers. Could you imagine Aaron Rodgers in that mustache walking into Pittsburgh? Oh, my God. He loves Pittsburgh, too.
Starting point is 01:13:24 He loves the city. Oh, my God. Oh my God. He loves Pittsburgh too. He loves the city. Oh my God. Imagine Bret Michaels. Here we go. Steelers, here we go. You did the correct cadence. Here we go.
Starting point is 01:13:39 Steelers, here we go. Yeah, he did do it wrong. I forgot about that. He put his whole hat on. He just puts that hat on. You thankfully did the correct one. Brett has really fucked that up. Bro, he's got that helmet he just pulls out. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:54 Ready to go. Fucking puts it on. Dude, he's a legend. I hate that man. That fucking terrible towel is just batting the thing that's recording, too. It's like he's casting a fishing line where he hits that fucking thing. Gorgeous. It is unbelievable.
Starting point is 01:14:08 Happy to have him on our side, you know? Yes. He's passionate. What, you've been mad at a passionate fan? No, no, because every Rose has a thorn, dude. And listen, having him on our side is nothing but fantastic, I think. You know who else?
Starting point is 01:14:23 Who's that guy? Who's that guy? Who's that guy? Former super yinzer guy. Billy Gardell. Billy Gardell. He's got a new commercial. You see him? He's on commercial.
Starting point is 01:14:31 Really? He's a superstar. He's like a spokesperson for Billy. Hey, Pittsburgh's starting to really grow now here. How did we get to that? How did we get to Billy Gardell being in a commercial? A dire Swiss fail. I did not expect to hear a yinzer accent on the
Starting point is 01:14:45 commercial that it's on. I was like, okay, here we fucking go. We're coming out of here. Our Brent Michaels. Snoop's obviously not from Pittsburgh. Big Steeler fan though. Pittsburgh's getting a little bit of love here as we're growing up. If Aaron puts on the black and gold, I request Pat for you to come out of retirement, punt the ball
Starting point is 01:15:01 for the Steelers, and AJ as well could have you line back up in the middle of the 3-4, put your helmet down, run through the hole, and knock people out. Think of the pre-show me and A.J. could do while everybody else is warm enough to play. He makes too much sense. Bob Spokane is basically a carbon copy of A.J. He could be his protege out there.
Starting point is 01:15:23 You're right. You're right. Hey, Bob's head and jaw are much harder than mine. Ah! Got it. You don't mean that. He does have a neck, though,
Starting point is 01:15:31 that rivals your neck from back in the day. His teeth have never turned into dust, though. That was a fun little fact we learned about you yesterday. AJ Hawk, for those that are listening
Starting point is 01:15:41 and didn't hear this yesterday because it is a three-hour show now, although we have learned that people watch on an average for 42 minutes at a glimpse thank you obviously we don't know why you're doing what you're doing but we do appreciate
Starting point is 01:15:54 you thank you but yeah that's an insane stat that's an insane stat but I mean I forgot where I was headed, actually. AJ's teeth grinding into dust. God damn.
Starting point is 01:16:07 If you missed it yesterday, think about that. As I was saying it, because we just learned it yesterday into this morning, as I was saying it, I was like, I've never watched anything for 42 minutes straight. I could not fucking fathom somebody doing that. So we appreciate the hell out of you. But yesterday, maybe after hours, after we went off serious or whatever, AJ talked about hitting somebody so hard that he went to pick up his tooth on the field, and it was dust, his tooth.
Starting point is 01:16:32 And he had four root canals. He's had four root canals because he throws his gigantic jaw and face into other people, refused to wear a mouthpiece. I don't know if Bob Spokane's doing that. To Gumpy's point, I'm not 100% sure if bob spokane's doing that to gumpy's point i'm not 100 sure bob spokane is just shredding teeth which is would need four root canals with how hard he's hitting people but he also says like hey science a mouthpiece isn't that bad of a thing well i mean first off bob's much smarter than i am so yeah i he should wear a mouthpiece but
Starting point is 01:17:01 by the way i didn't do i didn't my it was just one tooth that got kind of disintegrated. But it wasn't because I hit somebody so hard. It was actually one of the worst ones. It was like a stalemate with me and the dude. A stalemate hurt the worst. You see those guys that just slap each other on the other side of tables? I don't – I cannot comprehend how they take those. Me neither.
Starting point is 01:17:22 And that little tatted guy, what was he doing? I love watching animal i love that guy okay catch him in the ear sometimes i feel like and it's a it's actually like just a it's like a palm punch where you're trying to do the thing but that little tatted guy what a fucking icon that guy is yeah all right there's a 350 pound slap world champion and i'm gonna sign up to just go ahead and get smacked right in the mouth by this guy. And he smacked him first, and it was a very weak. He was there strictly to get knocked out, and I appreciate that.
Starting point is 01:17:54 I think it was a non-conference once. Still eating out of a straw. You said it was a non-conference? It's like the non-conference bracket. Oh, okay. It's the open? Yeah, I've started to watch those. I've watched a whole three-hour one, and they start's like the open. It's the open. Yeah, I've started to watch those. I've watched a whole like three-hour one,
Starting point is 01:18:05 and they start off with like the easy ones, the kids that get knocked out, and they make it to the highlight film. So if you watch the documentary, the three-hour one, and I appreciate the people that do make it to the highlight film, and all those that just fell short on the editor's floor, we apologize for your jaws getting smacked out of your fucking faces for that, not even getting to see it.
Starting point is 01:18:24 But there's always a crew of people catching them. If they get knocked out, that's how they lose. Because I've seen people get knocked out and get right back up. It's like, how do you determine a winner in that scene after watching that? I'm going to be honest with you. I don't understand it still. Okay. Three hours.
Starting point is 01:18:37 Three hours of a talk from Cito. In one of those highlight films, too, the dude who knocked out the guy with the tats all over his body, he went up against the guy, and they went at least 10 rounds. Yeah. Just banging it, banging it, banging it, and they were both just eating. The video ended. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:52 Remember? The video ended without telling us who won. No idea. It was like, you decide who won. It was like, that's how they're doing it? Just so people can watch and decide who wins? Shout out to these smack artists. I don't know what they are, but when that makes it into my timeline, I'm always like, who are these people?
Starting point is 01:19:07 I mean, it's kind of awesome. I don't have that trait. AJ, I think you'd do well in there. No, I watch those, and I get scared when I see those guys, especially when they're sitting there and they know the guys. The guys kind of line them up, getting ready to hit them. I'm like, how do you just stand there and you know he may catch part of my ear? He's definitely getting my temple.
Starting point is 01:19:24 Best case scenario, I get knocked out and they catch me. And I don't fall and hit my head and die. Well, how about the pump fakes that come? Yeah. Yeah. They line them up, you know, and then they take it back. And then they'll even do like a. Ooh.
Starting point is 01:19:38 And then you see. Yeah, shit. All right. And then. No, no, we're not doing. And then all of a sudden that one's coming in. It's full palm right to the jaw with a smack of the ear hole so maybe we blow out your eardrum and then goes right
Starting point is 01:19:51 through that and some of you oh and then they're right back up are you good yeah yeah yeah and then and then on the other side it's just that seems like a very aggressive sport but i like to see that it is thriving and surviving still, I think. Yeah, so to answer your question, the slam champ is still vastly Kamast Sky. He's a Russian slam. He's the one that won it. He's the big guy? Yeah, he's the one that wins it all.
Starting point is 01:20:14 The bearded guy? The famous guy. Yeah, his name is Vasily, V-A-S-I-L-Y, K-A-M-O-T-S-K-I-Y. And he is, I'd assume he's... Vasily, right? Nah. That's Russian. Who knows?
Starting point is 01:20:30 Like the Vasily guy, the streaker kid. Oh, there you go. Good tie-in. Is that Italian or Russian? Russian. He says Russian, but... Russian Vasily? It could be Polish.
Starting point is 01:20:39 Those Russians, though, they're training those hockey kids to fight when they're like four or five. They drink vodka for breakfast, right? That's right. Hey, the Russians are fucking – they're out there slapping each other for fun in these things. Do we know what happened to the tattooed guy? Because I swear I saw one where they had him just weekend at Bernie's up there, and the guy basically got a free smack. Yeah, he's dead.
Starting point is 01:20:59 Unfortunately, he's not. His eyeballs are. No, let's – okay, we don't know. That's one of the – He just propped over his shoulder. His eyeballs went fully black. Yeah, I did see them holding – okay, we don't know. That's one of the – He just propped over his shoulder. His eyeballs went fully black. Yeah, I did see them holding him up, propping him up there. His eyes are tattooed.
Starting point is 01:21:09 That's why. Do they prop him up and let him get hit? Oh, yeah. They let him up to get hit. Oh, yeah. You got to slap back, obviously, and normally whenever you're being propped up, your smack, I guess, is not as powerful.
Starting point is 01:21:20 So they prop you back up there, and then you hold that thing, and then you give your smack, and they're like, all right, it's coming back again. Here we go. Get ready for round two here, pal. And then boom, out again. And then I think they prop him back up again. And he's like, all right, are we still doing this?
Starting point is 01:21:36 Maybe put his arms over two guys' shoulders and kind of just let him sit there and get ready for it. And that guy signed up for it. He did. And I appreciate him for doing that. He knew he was going to get knocked out three, four times in a matter of ten minutes. And he guy signed up for it. He did. And I appreciate him for doing that. He knew he was going to get knocked out three, four times in a matter of 10 minutes. And he was like, give it to me.
Starting point is 01:21:49 I want it all. And we appreciate his service, for sure, especially on the internet, because that six-second clip is worth it. Thank you, guy. Thank you, pal. Thank you, Tattoo Eyes. If those guys don't have CTE in the future,
Starting point is 01:22:03 then we know it's not real. CTE? Well, you got to look at the dom. AJ, that guy's dead. He passed several years ago. Study his brain. See what it looked like. Actually disintegrated.
Starting point is 01:22:13 I'm one of the smashers. They tried to get his teeth. Yeah, couldn't do it. Let's go to Peyton in Minneapolis. What's going on, Peyton? Hey, Pat. Can you hear me? Yeah, good.
Starting point is 01:22:25 How are we doing today? Not too sh? Yeah, good. How are we doing today? Not too shabby, man. How are you? Pretty good, pretty good. So, like a year ago, I applied for the U.S. bobsled team just kind of as a joke, and I was thinking about that today and wanted to ask you, since you already conquered baseball, football, and wrestling, and obviously, like, I chose boxing,
Starting point is 01:22:45 what are the odds you'd have to, like, try out for that? Because, like, the only requirement is pretty much to have, like, refrigerator thighs. I think you got that covered. Thank you, Peyton. What are the odds you bring gold? Peyton's talking about me becoming an Olympian. Yeah, huh?
Starting point is 01:22:59 Yep. I appreciate that, Peyton. I do think all you've got to have is big thighs. That's all they kind of look for. The former teammate of mine, Sam Giger, okay, Appreciate that, Peyton. I do think all you've got to have is big thighs. That's all they kind of look for. The former teammate of mine, Sam Giguere, okay, was a wide receiver that played for us. He played in the CFL as well.
Starting point is 01:23:15 He ended up on the Canadian bobsled team, I think, after he played for us. That's specimen of a man. We're talking like 4'3", runner, sprinter, massive, very, you know, he's just – I think he might have had 0% body fat somehow. It was very impressive. I think it's very difficult to get one of those positions. I think Walter Payton maybe did it. Yeah, he did it for a little bit. I don't know if he made the Olympic team, but the track runner, the girl,
Starting point is 01:23:36 is currently doing that right now. Lolo Jones. Yeah, it's not easy. I think that is a very difficult thing, and I appreciate the compliment, Payton, but I'll tell you what, my competitive speed, not too shabby. You know, get me in a flag football game or backyard football. In that, they need straight line speed. You've got to be as fast and as powerful as you possibly can be.
Starting point is 01:23:53 You've got to be shredded, too, because you are in Spanx your entire thing. Any extra weight, not good. You're tight in there. I don't think that's the – maybe A.J., though. I think it should be you, Saquon, AJ, Dylan, and Najee Harris with you driving the sled. Well, Najee's driving because he drove nine and a half hours to get to his
Starting point is 01:24:11 pro day, which is very nice of him to do that. That's what we'll transition right into. Najee Harris could not fly back for the pro day happening in Alabama because of a big storm. He got in a car, drove nine and a half hours, said I'm going to be there for my teammates.
Starting point is 01:24:26 And also potentially chat with some scouts. But also I know that no stupid storm is going to hold me back. I'm going to drive. I'm a big Najee Harris fan. I like that kid a lot. Well, you had him on the show, right? Yeah. He was fun.
Starting point is 01:24:38 I thought he had – I had no idea what to expect, and I watched it, and I thought he was a lot of fun. Didn't you say he caught some – what did he get some backlash for? Was he making fun of the fans? Yeah, because he said, you know, being an absolute stud for Alabama, I'd assume around time down there, probably pretty recognized people, I'd assume you'd talk to. Yeah, and he used to just fuck with people and say War Eagle
Starting point is 01:25:02 and then walk out right past them. And now in Alabama, you you know roll tide war eagle that is so you see somebody that's a roll tide hero saying something about auburn and there was a lot of fans that came out and said not a good look just bashing your own fans or whatever so i mean that could drop them in draft i guess it's a joke he was i wasn't isn't a california kid he he came he was talking about the difference with like fandom yeah yeah we can't we can't talk about those stupid people though that think that that's potentially going to drop him in the draft because he did that somebody really thought that oh those were the tweets that was the tweets we're getting after he came on the show i think
Starting point is 01:25:38 if i was a gm and i watched that his stock would go higher not because of what he said about the fans but because he showed like personality like this like this dude would be great in any locker room. He seemed like a very fun, positive dude. Yeah. And I don't think that gets talked about a lot on these interviews. It always feels like people are looking for the gotcha statements, but I think it's not a bad idea to look like, Oh, well, that guy fit in with our culture. Like, is that a guy we want in the locker room? And I think there's a couple of people we've talked to on this show that my entire thoughts of them changed completely in a positive way, I think, after seeing them. And I do believe that I would assume there's some scouts in the NFL that watch, like, interactions that people have with the media. And they're like, all right, are they going to give away our entire playbook?
Starting point is 01:26:20 And are they going to be absolutely insufferable to be around in person? That is a big deal, you know? Yeah, and also, like, if we do end up giving this guy a second contract, what's he going to be like? Like, yeah, how does he fit in? Can you imagine talking to some guy? I'm sure you get, like, if you're a GM or you're a scout, you can know right away if this guy would fit in or not
Starting point is 01:26:39 because some guys think if a guy's just super quiet and, like, standoffish and doesn't, I don't know, just acts like he's a bigger deal than the GM or scout he's talking to. Yeah. I think you and I, though, you know, just like you said earlier, we might hold a little bit more of a grudge. Yeah, that motherfucker thinks he's better than me, huh? You're right. You know what I mean? You could probably tell, like, I'm sure by the handshake and how greedy you're like,
Starting point is 01:27:02 yeah, definitely not picking this dude. Motor City Dan Campbell's like, hey, what's going on? All right, never mind. Nice talk, bud. Not going to be a lion. I hope Dan Campbell has success. Yes. But that's a guy, after your interview, everyone was like,
Starting point is 01:27:18 man, how can you not root for this guy to your point? Yeah, and very early, I guess, in Motor City Dan Campbell's introduction to the everyday lexicon, it was not as positive. No, no very early, I guess, in Motor City, Dan Campbell's introduction to the everyday lexicon. It was not as positive. No, no, no. I don't think so. Fucking Dan Campbell. Nobody wanted to be the coach.
Starting point is 01:27:33 What if he would have came out and said, nobody wanted to be the coach here? People were talking about me getting this job over here, but I was the only one that would take it. Get off my fucking ass. Now we're eating kneecaps. I love him. I do too, too man how can you not i'm big fan all you all you have to do is win and you can do whatever you want as the head coach winning
Starting point is 01:27:51 cures everything everything i'm so sorry for interrupting this incredible listen that we have provided today yeah it's a good one. If you're still listening, just know we appreciate you. Good people. We understand. We understand what's going on. But I just want to let you know this tournament season,
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Starting point is 01:31:06 Fortune. That's future. Town's future. Fortune. That's right. It's time for our Italian friend who gambles a lot to tell us some futures bets that he likes. And he's been eyeing on FanDuel Sportsbook. Diggs, what do you have, pal? All right. So we were fucking around this morning. Hey, good jingle.
Starting point is 01:31:20 Good jingle. Great jingle. Wow. Good jingle, boy. Just looking around on FanDuel. And I started getting the division, looking at divisions for NFL next year. And I found some value. I think that I found some value.
Starting point is 01:31:34 Number one being Browns plus 200 to win the AFC North. Okay, plus 200 for those that don't gamble. Double your money there. No big deal. How you doing? Keep it moving. The Browns just loaded up. I assume that's what you're thinking, even though you're a diehard Pittsburgh Steelers fan. Diehard Steelers fans, they lost some of their key contributors.
Starting point is 01:31:46 We'll worry about them later. The Ravens, I don't know. I'm still not. But the Browns, second year in Stefanski's offense. So you think they're going to do a little bit better there. They get Odell back. So they even have to go to free agency to get a wide receiver. They added John Johnson, Troy Hill, Malik Jackson, Anthony Walker, I believe, from the Colts on the defense side of the
Starting point is 01:32:05 ball. Greedy Williams and Grant Delpit are coming back from injury. I like the Browns next year in the AFC North. Plus 200, good value. Okay, somebody should clip him saying, I like the Browns next year in the AFC North and just leave that out there. That'll be shoved right down the Cowboys-Steeler fan base's throat there. But with that being said, Andrew Barry over there.
Starting point is 01:32:23 There you go. Andrew Barry is our GM. He has come from the Indianapolis Colts. Now he's their general manager. He was a quarterback at Harvard. He came up through the Bill Polian system in Indianapolis. I was hoping whenever he was like 26 or something,
Starting point is 01:32:37 I don't know if that was actually his age, I think so, whenever the Colts general manager was up for Bill Polian, I was actually, after getting a chance to know Andrew Barry as, you know, he was a mid-20s guy, much different than I am. But we did have conversations, you know, about the whole thing. I was hoping we would hire him as a GM. He has basically been a general manager, I think, since the day I met him.
Starting point is 01:32:58 I would assume since he came out of college. Incredibly intelligent, incredibly calm, cool, been there, done that, doesn't get too worked up, and he knows, like, we got to go get it here. Like, I'm a big Andrew Barry fan. I think the Cleveland Browns have been the same old Browns. The Browns is the Browns for a long time. This could be, for real, playoff, get a win. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:33:20 This could be the time where this dog pond who's been sitting in the outhouse with no roof on that thing, shitting in the mud, they could potentially experience a little bit of the high life with Andrew Barry and his Cleveland Browns squad. Now, Baker Mayfield, is he going to be there for the next five, ten years? Nobody knows. But you bring back Odell Beckham with what Baker did last year, which was unbelievable.
Starting point is 01:33:42 Hunt and Chubb. Then you've got Jarvis Landry and also Austin Hooper. And then they've got Myles Garrett on the D-line. They try to add J.J. Hey, plus two huns, double your mun. Towns future
Starting point is 01:33:57 Towns future fortunes. Howdy, boys. We'll revisit that tomorrow because I think that is something we should stick with. I would like to say I separate my fandom from gambling. No suffice out of you, dude. Yeah, because you know what?
Starting point is 01:34:20 What? Like a prefix and a suffix. Got it. There it is. It's the after. Okay. Junior. Deuce.
Starting point is 01:34:29 Yeah. The third. Exactly. No deuces. No deuces. So no suffixes on you. Especially not on our fan dual counts. No, no, no.
Starting point is 01:34:36 Don't need any of those. Come on, computer. Remind me tomorrow. Let's go to Rich in Chicago. Rich, what's going on rich hey boys how you doing hey just hanging out man me and this computer uh have quite a love-hate relationship need it for sure but uh who knows how much longer it'll be lasting what do you want to talk about pal uh so i want to get to andy dalton the bears from chicago i feel like
Starting point is 01:35:03 zito could help us out with this but I've been told by my intern who tweets that tone through our company page that thank you for making him a lot of money last night
Starting point is 01:35:12 and he looks forward to Hammer Don tomorrow or whenever it is towards June 16th get to Andy my intern yeah
Starting point is 01:35:19 man he's making money off that but that's not what we're saying so you wanted to call into this show, Rich? Andy Dolan, $10 million. Is it worth it?
Starting point is 01:35:35 Great question, Rich. Thank you, sir. Hell yeah. I thought we were going to what him off the mic. He didn't really. I appreciate the fact that he came in and established himself. I got people that work for me. All right, they tweet from our company account.
Starting point is 01:35:48 All right? Know that we got shit popping off of her. I do appreciate that. Led off with Andy Dalton and said, hey, Tony Diggs has been making him a lot of money. Shout out to the intern. Not sure what the company is, but wait for that intern to keep making his money. He's going to buy that company. It's going to be his account.
Starting point is 01:36:02 Uh-oh. You better watch your back. That's what he's going to say. Andy Dalton, $10 million. Is it worth it? Absolutely. Come on. It's Andy Dalton. Now, I have heard that you guys are not out of the running for Russell Wilson just because one massive offer that was negotiated in Fargo, North Dakota was turned down. Allegedly, that doesn't mean that this thing is completely over. Wait until draft night to see what Seattle does, they say, which is at least you guys get an expiration date in Chicago
Starting point is 01:36:29 to find out whether or not Andy Dalton is going to be your guy going forward. If you don't know Andy Dalton, though, he's going to go out there and win you some games. That's right. Hey, I'm not saying Chicago Bears automatically become Super Bowl contenders. No. Playoff potential. Maybe. I'm not saying, Super Bowl contenders. No. Sure. Playoff potential.
Starting point is 01:36:46 You know, I'm not saying that. Maybe. Maybe. Maybe. Andy Dalton, though, the way he's being perceived is strictly because they thought Russ Wilson was coming. Yeah. Then Andy Dalton comes hours later and it's like, we thought we got Sierra's husband. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:37:00 We got Andy Dalton now all of a sudden. Kind of put Andy Dalton in a terrible position because everything is in relation to. Okay, so I think A.J. Hawk has said this before, and it's a very true statement. Like, for those people that you think are rich, they'll get around a group of people, and they shit out the amount of money that that person has. Everything's in relation to. If somebody is super athletic, and then you put them around in your town you put them around people around the country like every are they still everything's in
Starting point is 01:37:32 relation to so andy dalton was compared not next to mitchell trubisky or nick foals who were the previous quarterbacks of the chicago bears that led them to a very abysmal offensive maybe you do. I don't know. But instead, Andy Dalton was compared to, by Chicago Bears fans, to a quarterback that was never a Chicago Bear that was potentially allegedly going to be a Chicago Bear. So whenever you start comparing Andy Dalton to Mitchell Trubisky or Nick Foles,
Starting point is 01:37:58 I think there's a much easier conversation for Bears fans to have. But in relation to Russell Wilson, that is a tough thing for people people to buy and I think Andy Dalton would even be like oh come though I was coming in here because Mitchell stunk yeah full stunk maybe Nagy stinks or whatever but instead Bears fans because they heard some rumors they're like no our comparison is what this offense would look like with Russell Wilson now we got you in here son of a bitch so kind of stinks for Andy Dalton but if you're a Bears fan especially one that has an intern that's tweeting from your company that's gambling on digs his picks i think you should potentially be a little bit pissed off because you thought it was russ but in comparison to mitchell and nick it's a much different conversation taking russ out of the equation
Starting point is 01:38:36 fitzpatrick got 10 million dalton got 10 million brissette got 5 million Which one of those three? I would take Fitzmagic. Yeah, of course. But Jacoby, I love Jacoby. Weapon. I would put Jacoby at $10 million as well. Now, granted, that's what Miami offered him, and Miami's been doing incredible things down there, obviously, with salary cap and everything.
Starting point is 01:38:59 Of course. And building and then tearing it down and building. Oh, yeah. Tear down that wall is what the Miami Dolphins said to that defensive line. With Larry Guy. Well, listen, you bring in a workhorse like Lawrence
Starting point is 01:39:14 Guy. I mean, he's all decade team for the Patriots. I mean, that is a guy you do bring in there. They did kind of swap Kyle Van Noy with Lawrence Guy, which Dolphins are paying. Pretty good move there when you think about it. I mean, if you can get Larry Guy, you get Larry Guy. I agree.
Starting point is 01:39:28 But you could have had Larry Guy and Kyle Van Noy, so you would have been doing a lot of things. You cut him, obviously, and now you're still paying him. He's playing within the division a couple times. It's just a little too smart for the Dolphins to do that. Jacoby Brissett deserves more respect. But it's also, he got hurt, and then obviously Phillip Rivers comes in, and then the Colts kind of let him go.
Starting point is 01:39:46 I think Frank Reich said to Albert Breer in that Monday morning quarterback thing with Sports Illustrated, which is run by Peter King. I think Albert Breer runs it now. Really? I believe so. I think Pete King handed it off to him, if I'm not mistaken. Is Peter King not associated with it? I think he does something else now.
Starting point is 01:40:06 Football Morning in America, I believe it's called. They're competitors. Pete's with NBC now. So Pete said, Albert Breer, you do your thing here? I'm out of here? Or did Albert Breer say, get on out? Did Albert Breer say, get on out? I don't think so. I think Pete
Starting point is 01:40:21 grabbed the cash bag from NBC, and I believe, I could be wrong here, but I believe Albert Breer was just next man up. Well, congrats to Peter King getting paid. Come on, Pete. Pete will never come on this show again. No. I like Pete's work, but, I mean, he basically just set me up for failure numerous times and just acted like it was okay.
Starting point is 01:40:41 Basically said, hey, Pat, do you even know how to write? Yeah. Oh, yeah, he did say that. That's right. He wanted me to write, what, a thousand-word thing three weeks ahead of time? Three thousand.
Starting point is 01:40:50 Three thousand-word thing three weeks ahead of time so he could walk through it or whatever? All right, Pete. Okay, I'm not doing that. When's it due by? Believe it or not, Pete, I got other things I do.
Starting point is 01:41:03 Okay, and I am incredibly honored to be doing this because i guess he does these guest writers or whatever and i was asked to do it i was pumped because nobody's seen me write really before i enjoy writing a lot like it is something i do to pass time and especially in the world that we were in there i thought i could potentially put something together yeah he wanted it like four weeks and this was after he set up an appointment at my house and canceled on the show and didn't come on. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:41:28 There is a tweet where he passed the torch over to Alvin Breer. Yeah. Like a baton? Did he do, like, the handshake thing? Well, it starts off well. Alvin Breer is Monday morning quarterback now. Well, Alvin Breer's been doing a hell of a job. Now, Peter King, obviously, we are fans of. But he did, I mean, he did call me a stooge numerous times right to my face.
Starting point is 01:41:44 Pretty tough. Pretty much. Son of a bitch. He did sell to NBC, though, so. Yeah. fans up, but he did call me a stooge numerous times right to my face. He did sell to NBC, though. He's been around a long time. Guy's done a lot for football. They're just saying he won't be on this show. No, no, no. Well, Albert Breer is Monday morning quarterback and holding it down superbly. Time marches on.
Starting point is 01:42:00 Thanks for reading. Wow. Is that lyrics from 335 in the morning? He's up, by the way. That's's why it's not like he's still up by the he's getting up at that point that's right mark walberg style tweets golfs bibles prayers pass the torch interviews uh albert breer interviewed frank reich and frank reich said like we had jacoby we didn't know if he was our guy though so we kind of moved on, Phil Rivers, he was a short term replacement, they were talking about drafting
Starting point is 01:42:30 the long term answer quarterback which by the way I would assume was in every team's plans if they didn't have a quarterback but after the Andrew Luck situation that seems like it really now Ballard had this entire plan of how he was going to build offensive line we're going to have a great defense.
Starting point is 01:42:45 We're going to do this whole thing. And then Andrew got an injury again right before the season. Who knows what was going to happen? He decides to retire eight days before the season. Now they're scrambling. Let me trade in for Jacoby here. Let me do this. That really set that entire organization back.
Starting point is 01:43:00 Now, Jacoby came in with eight days preparation or whatever. Did well that first year they did not win a lot of games then obviously uh whenever phil comes in and plays they play good they didn't they played they win uh they go into the playoffs they do good okay and dallas clark said that was a superb gig which i agree dropping in in the covet year and getting a win and getting to the playoffs and all that. But, you know, with that core, that nucleus of the Colts, you think like, hey, this team could win a Super Bowl. Now, they don't have a lot of offensive weapons and T.Y.
Starting point is 01:43:31 Hilton's not there anymore. But you would think they're one great quarterback away, like one Andrew Luck away, potentially. You know, so I assume Chris Ballard maybe has a drink or two some nights and goes, if that motherfucking guy didn't retire. Oh, yeah. maybe has a drink or two some nights and goes if that motherfucking guy didn't retire oh yeah if somebody would have just not had him die the first five years of his career if he didn't you know like when we would have we would be we would be in the conversation every single year the way they play so now they're like how do we do this long term what do we do they hope carson wentz
Starting point is 01:43:59 is going to be the long-term answer and frank reich said it felt like it was the universe was speaking to them almost because there was a chance for Carson to come back. It just seemed like it was everything, all the dots were lining up. And, I mean, we'll see. I hope so. When he sat here, it changed my opinion of him. He's a lot more of a human than I thought he was. I mean, they spent all their money around protecting Andrew Luck.
Starting point is 01:44:21 You know, and then it's like – Draft capital, too. Yeah, exactly. And then he leaves, and it would be just like, oh, shit. What are we going to do? But don't you think Jacoby will get. He'll start some games in Miami this year. And he'll show out too.
Starting point is 01:44:33 Jacoby will show out. I would think he's going to get an actual opportunity down there. I hope so. We don't know what the fuck the Miami Dolphins are doing. I mean, is Tua the guy? Is he not the guy? It seems like if Tua plays dog shit the first week, they might yank him.
Starting point is 01:44:47 Tua's been working out, though. Yeah, he's got to do it. Bicep curls every day. He's ready. Here we go. We do have to remember, he was coming off a pretty bad injury last week. Massive injury. Hip injury.
Starting point is 01:44:55 He's a rookie. Yeah, there you go. Gump's coming around on it. Went six and three as a rookie. You hear Gump coming around on it? Gump loves him. Here we go. Gump does not love him.
Starting point is 01:45:02 I mean, I'm just learning this now. He loves him. Gump loves him? Yeah. Always we go. Gump does not love him. I mean, I'm just learning this now. He loves him. Gump loves him? Yeah. Always loved him. Gump got his jersey. I love anybody who wears the Dolphins jersey. We all know that. You throw that Dolphins tarp on, you're good with me. How about that coach
Starting point is 01:45:18 that was snorting? The O-line coach. Oh, yeah. The answers in the middle of the day dreaming of you let's go boys meeting in the bathroom 20 minutes that was awesome when i came out i mean obviously not an awesome situation i hope he's okay everybody battles their demons that one i never understood because you're literally just sending that right to the brain and i never i get accused of that a lot by people because i'm a high energy person by the way has been happening to me my entire life complete opposite but i need to other
Starting point is 01:45:48 i i go the other way yeah i need not do that but that video that guy that thing might have made it around all the nfl locker rooms within a minute and a half maybe you see what this fucking guy's doing it and then you get like some friend friend down in Miami who sends a message. You should have seen him at meetings. He just starts going around or whatever. And then the story starts coming out. It's like, them Dolphins down there just living their best life, that guy. Do you think he got another gig?
Starting point is 01:46:17 He's probably working for a team right now, isn't he? You know, I didn't know the guy existed beforehand. And I still couldn't tell you the guy's name right now. Dolphins line coach Coke is what I searched. I found him right away. Well, that's what I'm saying, though. If that guy got another job, I'm not sure the team that's hiring him is saying, hey, you remember that guy that was just taking rails in the middle of the afternoon
Starting point is 01:46:41 in his office? We just, oh, see, we didn't need to do that. If he turned it around, though, he might be a character coach for a team. We didn't have to do that. O-line coach for the Niners. There you go. That's what I'm saying. They've been up and going.
Starting point is 01:46:52 I got a good offensive line, too. They run the ball. They run the ball. They're never stopping over there. And they got Trent Williams back. That guy was in. That guy was in love, love. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:47:03 Wasn't he? Oh, yeah. I mean, like, love, love. Love will make you do some things, man. Yeah. Wasn't he? Oh, yeah. I mean, like, love, love. Love will make you do some things, man. Yeah. We've all been there. I've not been there. Not quite.
Starting point is 01:47:13 He had the Dolphins polo on in the thing, too. I wish he would have went, like, through the building while he was doing it. Yeah. Here's a cold tub. I wish we were in there, you know, recovering from our great time. Then we get in the hot tub, just like we did that one time. Dolphins are awesome. I don't really know them a fan.
Starting point is 01:47:32 Yeah, of course. But they don't have a clue what the fuck they're doing down there right now, I don't think. Two is quarterback until he isn't. You know what I mean? If Jacoby Brissett gets an opportunity, he's going to do well. Then they'll have to make a decision on where we're going to go with Jacoby because he's still young enough to be the guy? It'll be an interesting little cycle down there.
Starting point is 01:47:49 The machine will keep going. You know what I mean? Down in Miami. If they don't like him, I mean, they have the number three pick. They could take somebody else if they really wanted to. Well, and, I mean, not just the number three overall pick. They have four picks in the top 50 picks this year. It's going to be a very new looking
Starting point is 01:48:06 Dolphins squad. And maybe Tua, one year removed from having to come back from a terrible hip injury, becomes a guy. Are the Dolphins back? What's the future on them, Tone? Can't believe you listened to this show.
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