The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 381 - Big Bag Thursday, TY Hilton, Kyle Rudolph, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: March 25, 2021

On today's show, Pat and the boys chat about the reports that Russell Wilson is back on the trade market, and what teams potentially have enough capital to get the deal done. Joining the program is 4x Pro Bowler, a man who just signed a new contract with the Indianapolis Colts, friend of the show, TY Hilton, to chat about his decision to stay with the Colts, what other team offered him, his relationship with Andrew Luck, how he came to his decision, and why he's excited to play with Carson Wentz (25:20-49:02). Next, 2x Pro Bowler, and new New York Giants TE, Kyle Rudolph joins the show to chat about his decision to go to the Giants, how the foot is doing, if he's had a chance to meet or talk to any of his new teammates yet, what he thinks of Joe Judge, and much more (49:11-1:14:25). Later, Pat and AJ Hawk shoot the breeze about the Russell Wilson seemingly not being resolved in Seattle, and everything else going on in free agency across the NFL (1:16:37-1:41:21). Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow and listen every day on Mad Dog Radio, Sirius XM Channel 82. We appreciate you all for listening, come and laugh with us, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

hello it is thursday march 25th nailed it 2021 okay here we go um hope you enjoyed today's show some great conversations we broke some news shout out to ty shout out to rudolph shout out to aj shout out to boys shout out to you for listening if by the end of this thing you enjoy it you know just maybe tell somebody yeah or two people no no no no no maybe we don't need to get that big okay hey just want just tell one just tell yourself to one yeah but if that person is a podcast listener that would be better you know because you'll tell somebody maybe that isn't a podcast listener and then you really told nobody. Right. Maybe just go into their phone and you need to gift. It's a gift.

You're saying, but also if you don't like this show, don't do that. No, no, no, no. You just piss off. Yeah.

Don't, don't tell anybody how you felt. It'd be like, you know, we just, we kind of made each other and didn't like each other and just,

see you later. It is what it is. There's a lot more shit to do in the world. Yeah. Yeah, don't tell anybody. But if you do like the show, we do need you.

Let's get to it, shall we, Ty? Sounds good. Today's show is loaded. Kyle Rudolph, who just got paid from the Giants, potentially going in

for surgery on his foot at some point in the very near future, will be joining us in about 22 minutes. T.Y. Hilton, fresh off a bag, one-year $10 million deal. He'll be joining us in about an hour and two minutes. And in the third hour, alongside A.J. Hawk, joining us in about two hours and 23 minutes, Justin Simmons, who just became the highest highest paid safety of the Denver Broncos.

It's very fresh bag Thursday here on the Pat Pack. Shouts to all these guys getting paid and figuring it all out. Kyle Rudolph is shown in a tuxedo with a bow tie. T.Y. and Justin Simmons in their football uniforms. Interesting

decisions by Zito here. I don't know why Zito chose to do that. I couldn't get a jersey swap yet, so I just threw in the old. Respect to the game. Hey, respect to the game, Zito. Also, Zito will be running the board today like he did last week. My brother is at home. His dog got hit by a car, got some surgery, will be fine.

It is a lion somebody needs to check on that car but he's at home with him he'll be back tomorrow AZ big day today Z I don't want to make any excuses but I did cut my finger today

as you see in that bandaid right there and it does control the sound so don't hold it against me no excuses no excuses obviously last week while Zito ran the board control the sound, so don't hold it against me. No excuses. No excuses, obviously. Last week, while Zito ran the board while my brother was away, we had a hot mic situation

a couple times. We had sound go off in the middle of sentences a couple different times. There were some very cold mic situations. I don't remember that. There was a death of a beat drop that happened out of note, like right on time almost.

But once he got through those little obstacles, Zito became a great audio person. But if this show stinks audio-wise, it is at Viva La Zito you need to talk to. Mansuri, Foxy, Nick are all back there as well, alongside Billy Tubes. At Ty Schmidt is here. Boston Stooge is here.

Tone Diggs is here. And Gumpy is joining us in the room because Zito is doing the audio. I At Ty Schmidt is here. Boston Stooge is here. Tone Diggs is here. And Gumpy is joining us in the room because Zito is doing the audio. I appreciate all you boys here. 1888-MADDOG6 is the number if you want to call in. We'd love to chat with you. It's going to be tough with three guests, so you might be sitting on hold.

But everybody knows that post-show hangout sesh, happy hour sesh that happens on youtube.com forward slash dpapmagfyshow. If you're on hold for three plus hours we do appreciate normally we answer then if not try to get some in the middle of the show today this russell wilson situation is very fascinating to me this whole thing popped off a few weeks ago um maybe a couple months ago at this point it may be maybe a month and a half ago at this point, where Team 3, which is Russell Wilson's team, they make their first official public statement.

We knew Team 3 existed. We knew. We had heard about the million dollars a year in keeping Russell Wilson, Russell Wilson. We knew. We had heard of this team. We knew that it was somewhere lurking, groundskeepers and chefs and massage therapists

and leg cardio doctors and leg doctors arm doctors head doctors like we know that we knew it existed just strictly because with the interviews about him talking about him caring about his body and in investing in his body and then watching him play. It's like, okay, this guy seems to be fully committed to two things. His family. Right. Three things. His family, the Lord, and football. Now, granted, Yankees.

Yankees baseball. Yankees baseball as well. So four things. And then maybe also hosting things. Maybe five things this guy is really focusing. We had heard of Team 3, though, existence. Then just a little over a month ago, we should have done the research on when the exact date was that's on us our show does suck though and that's you're listening to it but a little over a month ago a team three put

out a statement that they were not happy with what the seattle seahawks were doing with three of team three now this wasn't coming from russell wilson russell wilson was not saying this they had a meeting without without the three the team had a meeting without the three. The team had a meeting, and they decided that they are not thrilled with what the Seattle Seahawks are doing with their guy that they do the team around. Then the next day, or maybe even the same day, he goes on to the Dan Patrick show. Now, he didn't say anything that was damning of the Seahawks, but he also didn't come out and say, hey, what team three said just hours ago is not true.

So then that led to an entire cycle of Russell Wilson isn't happy. Then the offensive line of Seattle got buried. And that led me to think from team three, I was like, how is Russell in that offensive line going to get back together whenever he's just publicly burying them? Then more and more continued to happen. His agent comes out and speaks. We have not demanded a trade, but here's four teams we would get traded to. Then Russell Wilson and Sierra talk about how much they love Chicago,

and there's this whole thing happening. Then anonymous sources are coming out saying, Russell Wilson fucking stinks. It's a Pete Carroll run team. There's just a lot of slanderous things going on. Then in a meeting in Fargo, North Dakota, the Seattle Seahawks and Chicago Bears met, allegedly. Who knows if that was at a bison diner or where the hell they were at for that entire meeting

or if it was at the actual pro day. They said, we don't want to do this over Zoom. Let's go and meet somewhere that doesn't have any COVID protocols, really. We'll go to North Dakota. I assume North Dakota doesn't have a lot of the COVID, Uncle COVID over there. They've done a great job, I'd assume, strictly because they do social distance over there on a very regular basis. But they go there and try to get a deal done. The Chicago Bears offer a lot. Two starters, a third rounder, three first rounders. They're like, hey, we want to get them over there. They turn that down. They sign Andy Dalton. The Chicago Bears fans thought

they had Russell Wilson. Now they have Andy Dalton. All hell's breaking loose in Chicago. Now this morning, and we assume that the Russell Wilson saga was over there because publicly, Now this morning, and we assumed that the Russell Wilson saga was over there because publicly they turned down a great offer. Three ones, a third, two starters, which we all believe now are two very fuller. Hakeem Hicks. Hakeem Hicks, two great players. That's who everybody's assuming were the two starters. So if the Seattle Seahawks looked at that,

that means they're definitely thinking about trading Russell Wilson, but they turned down a great offer. So everybody automatically assumed, oh, the Russell Wilson trade saga is over. No, no, no. Listen, Shefty reported shortly after the Andy Dalton signing, maybe the next day and said, hey, do not think that this rules out the Russell Wilson situation. It almost felt as if Chicago had to get a quarterback because they weren't 100% sure whether or not they're going to be able to get Russell Wilson. And they're like, all right, we'll go back to the drawing board. Okay, so they go back.

Hey, we appreciate you, Schneider. Schneider? John Schneider. Schneider, yeah. We appreciate you, Schneider. We're going to go back to the drawing board, but we need a fucking quarterback if this doesn't work out. Andy Dalton's here.

We'll get him, whatever it is. So Schefter kind of alluded to the fact that until draft day happens and we see what the Seattle Seahawks do, there's no real closure on Russell Wilson potentially being traded even to the Chicago Bears again. Like even maybe to the Chicago Bears going to be able to offer, especially if we know that Nagy and Pace are potentially on their last year? Is the owner just going to let them give four first, four years into the future, you're allowed to do whatever you want, even though you might not even be the quarterback for you or the coaches of four years in the future.

So it was all kind of like, you know, convoluted. You know what I mean? It was all kind of convoluted. And then this morning, Diana Rossini goes on GetUp and she's like, listen, everything you heard is still real. Russell Wilson's team, from her sources on GetUp, she said,

Russell Wilson's team, not happy with what the Seattle Seahawks did this free agency. 75-80% of that offensive line that he doesn't like are coming back. All these things are still being said. Still wants traded. And even though his agent, and he gave permission to his agent to allow four teams to be announced as possible trade locations, Diana Rossini said he's opened other teams as well. And then allegedly Russell Wilson's been lobbying for Antonio Brown.

That's not going to happen. It feels like everything we thought was happening behind closed doors in this real housewives of Seattle situation with russell wilson pete carroll in the seahawks and everything it feels like it's all the way back if in diana rossini by the way has been very accurate through this entire thing now i assume she has missed a couple times with some maybe narrative pushing leaks from people to diana rossini but she had the jj watt shit early. She had masculine shit. Like she has had a lot of stuff.

She's basically sounded as if she had direct source to people that are saying this shit ain't over. He wants to get out of there. It's not just those four teams. It's anybody else. Very, very fascinating. Cause whenever we'd talked to Rossini before the band from ESPN,

now the band from me on ESPN people, she was like, Hey, there are calls being, and by the way, that came true with the bears, now the ban from me on ESPN people. She was like, hey, there are calls being, and by the way, that came true with the Bears with the whole thing. So I'm fascinated to see how this thing is going. I think Rossini has potential sources on both sides,

Seattle and Russell Wilson. I believe there's, now that's me just, she has not told me that. I banned all ESPN people from my life. Orlovsky texted me the other night. I did answer, it was a nice text, but then I told him no more of this. Can't do it. Can't do it.

Until it's lifted, we can't do this whole thing. But the Russell Wilson, maybe to Miami, who has four picks within the first 50 picks, because she said maybe another team that has a lot of picks is able to do it. This is very fast. And if Russell Wilson gets traded, I am so happy this is back in the conversation. Because that would be a boom for this show, especially because there really hasn't been jack shit to talk about.

And we just went from, what was it, yesterday, when we saw the Go Hawks video or a couple days ago, and it was like, okay, well, this is dead now. But then in this report, it says that he said he wants to be in Seattle, but if they're still shopping him, I would assume that this relationship is, like Carson said, just fractured beyond repair. He wants to get the hell out of there.

This is just like whenever Team 3 made the statement, and then his agent said Russell has never done it. It's always like Russell's like, hey, he wants to be on the team. He's cheering for Chris Carson. Go Hawks enthusiastically, which made me think like, okay, he's saying go Hawks. He's back. Very pumped after all this thing. He's welcoming Chris Carson.

Let's go, baby. Let's do this whole thing. It it's like okay russell wilson they must have been able to solve whatever potential issues could be happening behind closed doors because you know there's more stories he stormed out of a meeting in the middle of the season last year he's not doing this he's not doing that that relationship you know it's kind of like uh you know and i keep saying real housewives of of seattle and i describe all you know, it's kind of like, you know, and I keep saying Real Housewives of Seattle, and I describe all, you know, potentially overdramatic situations as that way. Like, okay, feelings are getting pissed off, and then that's obviously real and a fight happens. That's just like a thing to do. But this is like a reality relationship, though. Oh, yeah.

You know, every couple that gets into reality TV, aside from, I think, the Duck Dynasties, they all end up in a bad spot. OK, it's because the reality show shows like, oh, here's them together. Here's them happy. And then what you don't see behind closed doors, whatever the you know, in the camera, man and lady walk out there and they turn off the audio like Zito does. And the NHL guys do not do. But you turn on the what happens then. I think that's what we're learning now about this Russell-Pete thing. It's interesting to me. It's just fascinating to me that a relationship

that seems so tied at the hip. They said Pete and Russell are basically the same person. Complete every day. Super positive. How you doing? They're the same people. It's like, whoa, whoa, whoa. I don't think they are. If you're Miami though if you're miami though and you you you're a dolphins fan nothing has told you that the miami dolphins would do this at this particular time nothing says it okay in four picks within the first 50 you could probably

get two really good players out of there yeah most teams i would assume if they bat 50 in the draft they're pumped up about that but if you get two pillars going forward in all your other picks, maybe it's just like a rebuild with B-Flow. Let's go and do it. That's why you cut Kyle Van Noy. That's why you make other moves. But, man, that seems like a place that has the picks to potentially go and get a guy.

Deshaun Watson's situation seems like that is not something that other teams are like, no, let's go ahead and let the law figure this whole thing out here, especially with the situation going on with Jack Easterby and Cal McNair, too. It feels like Russell Wilson is potentially target number one through four for anybody who has anything. And Connor is sitting up very, very straight in his chair there. You're not saying the Patriots, no. No, no way.

But, I mean, like you said, the Finns, they can give him a second-year quarterback in Tua and that third pick so you can get another quarterback if you're not completely sold on him. Well, and they just signed Jacoby, too. Yeah. Yeah. All right, we'll give you Jacoby Brissett, Tua, Tonga, the top five pick just last year. Yeah. We'll give you four picks in the top 50 this year right now.

There's the deal. It's way better than the Bears. Like the Bears had a back 15 pick, and if Russell goes there, those future picks you assume aren't going to be top 15 picks. What else? So you're not getting those for another two, three years. Pete Carroll might be done by then. Exactly.

Yeah, yeah. Because just like we said with Chicago, they didn't have enough. Chicago didn't have enough draft capital to make a move, and they had to go into the future to find it. Miami has something right now. And if you're somebody, anybody really, now I guess there are those chess players who love talking about being chess players. I'm playing a long game or whatever.

We get it. Okay, are you? Well, let me king you real quick like it's checkers. How about that? I'm going to stop playing, by the way, by the time you got that closer ceiling at the end of the day. I'm already fucking done with the game. See you later. But if you're any, and you get four picks right now, you can sell your fans like, hey, although we lost, we can make this up for this right now.

And it feels like Seattle Seahawks fans that have called this show, and i guess i've tried to tap in a little bit into seahawks twitter anytime something like this happens fans normally are are with the player with the player with the player and then they get to a point where they're sick of it and they're like all right if this is going to happen just just fucking do it then it feels like this i don't know it's crazy to think that russell wilson is still potentially going to be traded though but it seems messy behind the scenes it's almost like inevitable at this and if pete wants someone to hand the ball off and protect the football, I mean, Tua can do that. You don't need Russ.

Hey, Tua won some games last year. I mean, it is the second time Russ has done this, though. He's not as bad, but he did the same thing before he re-signed his new contract. There was rumors of him going to the Giants as well. Oh, yeah, and that's why that bed video was so big and it was like 1 a.m or 2 a.m or whatever in our time no was it 1 a.m 2 a.m his time yeah it was west coast time okay see you're over there because i remember watching it i i completely forgot if it was 1 a.m my time or 1 a.m his time because if it's 1 a.m my time and he was doing that whole

song and dance at 10 p.m. He's in bed early. Which, by the way, got hot. He's got the sleepologist over there. You know what I mean? Part of team three. That's part of team three. I got a new bed coming in, by the way. I need it.

Recommended by Russ? Huh? Recommended by Russ? I would assume me and Russ will have a similar bed whenever this thing comes. Yeah, I've been waiting two and a half months for this thing. Still got two and a half to go? Probably. This morning I woke up in my ass.

So the bed, the whole bed has completely quit. You got a canyon. Yeah, so I woke up sitting like I was in a lazy, almost on a tube going down a river. Oh, nice. Yeah, so the lower back is just, you know, getting contorted or whatever. I would assume Russell Wilson and I are going to have a similar bed, but the sleepologist on Russell Wilson I do believe is probably a real job for somebody. Russell Wilson would have to pick up his whole team

and move to the new play center. Is that what he does? Is that his house now that we see him throwing in? Is that in Seattle? Because it seems like there's a lot of sun. Yeah. It feels like that's an awfully, you know, like sunshine. It looks like a Los Angeles type of home.

And then that would be his home. Upstate Washington, maybe? Oh, you think maybe up there? Maybe. I mean, it looks like a pretty big property. He's got a whole goddamn football field out there. He does have a lot of money, though. That's why he did that selfie video.

Yeah, true. And he got a Sierra, by the way. A lot of money. True. They probably have a nice spread down there in Los Angeles, if I had to guess. He is hosting the ESPYs now and stuff. Again? True. I hope so. I thought he kind of stunk last year.

What? Yeah, I was super excited for it. What about he hosted the NFL Honors, too. Did he? Well, he spoke to everybody on the NFL Honors, including Steve Harvey's open monologue. Yeah, he might as well have. Aaron Rodgers, hey, you got 35 seconds. You just won an MVP.

Tell everybody. Wrap it up. Russell Wilson has a full halftime dance routine, walking. Imagine if, like, Team 3 would have came in behind him and did, like, a full. With, like, trumpets and stuff, like Bruno Mars' voice. Yeah, like a full on. And that's why I'm so incredibly grateful to have won this incredible, prestigious award to the Welterweight Man of the Year Award.

Thank you so much. Sierra, you got something? She comes sliding in. Whoa! Oh, man. He's so good at football, so he can do whatever he wants. You know what I mean? If he wasn't as good at football, none of this would even be a conversation,

which, by the way, I guess is why it all started, because Russell Wilson feels as if he's much better than people are giving him credit for because he's on a team that doesn't want to win the way Russell Wilson would have to win if he wanted to be respected as a top three guy of all time, which is allegedly his motives behind all of this. It's insane. Miami has all the draft capital, but don't the Seahawks want, like, are they going to be able to get guys comparable to Fuller and Akeem Hicks in return if they do trade?

Wasn't that a big part of it is they wanted, like, two guys who could make their defense or offense better right away? To a tongue below, please have a little respect. But the YouTube commenters just said made something. There's like a $40 million dead cat bit, right? Yeah. That's the biggest. Prior to June 1st, right? And after doing some research, his house is in Seattle.

That's a beautiful area. Wow. It gets nice out there, man, as long as it's the only issue is the rain. It rains a lot. Well, that's what I'm saying. Like all those videos I see, it looks like this. Offly sunny. Yeah, it's beautiful.

Clear skies. So he gets to work out there, what, four or five days a year up there in Seattle on that field? It can get beautiful. In the summer, it doesn't rain much. It's just every other time it's usually pretty wet. Underrated, incredibly rainy city, Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. Really? The most, actually.

Yeah, we had more than Seattle there for a while. Yeah. Everybody's like, oh, Seattle's a rainy city. And I walk outside in Pittsburgh and I snort some of that steel in the air. And I see it's raining everywhere. I'm like, well, I don't know if it can rain more than this fucking place. Go ahead and just go ahead and let's get a little muddy out here. Russ might have a bubble, too.

You know, who knows? He might have better facilities than the Cincinnati Bengals. I would assume Team 3 has a better facility than the Cincinnati Bengals, especially after seeing their warm-up area we looked at yesterday with the A.J. Hawk. Pittsburgh's in fifth, Seattle-Washington sixth. Wow. Who's one? Rochester is one,

New York and Buffalo, New York is two. Oh, so it'll all rain up there. Portland, Oregon, Cleveland, Ohio, Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, Seattle, Washington, and then every other city in Ohio. Cleveland, not enough respect for how fucking windy it is over there. Yeah. You know? Speaking of windy, it's supposed to be like 60 to 70 mile an hour winds here in Indiana.

Look for a few trees around my house to definitely fall and fuck some things up. Oh, yeah. Definitely. At least you don't have DirecTV anymore. At least I'll be able to watch TV, I guess. Yeah. The interesting thing about DirecTV is, you know, you get you know you get all those like warnings like before phones had them all you would people would have satellite and the warnings for the storms would come on a channel but with satellite

the channels don't come whenever there's a storm yeah so people are just sitting there and there was an entire like get to your fucking basement now thing in the satellite was this you know i mean they never know isn't on the screen people that's a shame hey tonight indiana get to your basements from what i've been told be careful by the way there ain't nothing you can do about it i've been a part of a couple of those those tornado situations from pittsburgh pennsylvania where there's no tornado possibility because how the hills are aligned you know it's going to rain hey and by the way i think it rains because of all the hills the clods hit them the rain happens i think that is like a scientific thing or whatever but we don't have the tornadoes come out here to indiana and people

are like hey listen when that sign goes anybody can get it it is a nightmare oh yeah it is a scary thing whenever my wife and i were sitting outside we heard that train coming through the trees, I was like oh no. And I was like please don't hit us. Right? I didn't point at any neighbors. You know what I mean? I didn't say like do that. But you do hope like it feels like this is going to hit somebody. Maybe the wind

blows it that way. Yeah. What's the poll for today? Russ Boss? Oh, I thought I... That's on me. I don't know how I stole my job when I'm back here. All last week I didn't do it.

But, hey, today's poll, is Russell Wilson's time to say all that? Don't want to hear it, Z. Don't want to hear it. Don't want to hear it. Just do the audio, Z. Don't talk. Don't do anything, Z.

Mic's off. No excuses, Z. Is Russell, can you turn the music up though, yeah? Thanks, sir. Hey, you're doing a good job back there. How you doing, Z? How you doing, Z? Don't you tell me to turn my mic off.

Oh, Z. Is Russell Wilson's time in Seattle dead? Dead, 56%. Go Hawks, 44%. That's interesting. Hey, where's he gonna go? That's a $40 million cap hit to the Seattle Seahawks saying, yeah, we want him out of here. By the way, four

picks in the top 50, cheapest guys you can possibly get if you were to have to take a $40 billion cap hit on a guy that's not there. People go through many changes as we get older, isn't that right? Oh, yeah. For men, one of the less fortunate changes

is that testosterone production begins to naturally decrease in the body. Did you know this, AJ? I am aware. For most men, it begins around the age of 30, and testosterone production declines by roughly 1% per year. My God.

So if you live to 130, you ain't got shit left. No. Minus 30. Well, if it starts around 30, this is one of those questions on a test where, you know, begins around 30 and the testosterone production declines by roughly 1% per year. So does it start at zero or does it start at 30? That's the thing. This is where they can get you.

It's one of them damn word problems. This is one of those ones where you're like, well, wait a minute. Which, can I ask a follow-up? Anyways, I was good at those tests because I always viewed it as me versus the fucking teacher. That's right. I don't know what's going on,

but this is me versus you. Fuck you. That's how I view it. That's why friends at Roman have a new supplement designed to support testosterone production. I did not know this. They formulated their own supplements with transparent and scientifically-backed ingredients. You hear this, AJ? Roman's testosterone supplement is for anyone who wants to support their own body's natural function.

They formulated their own blend with transparent and scientifically backed ingredients. Getting started is simple. Just go to GetRoman.com slash USA. Their supplement contains vitamin D3, zinc, magnesium, maca, and ashwagandha

in a unique blend designed by healthcare professionals that you can't get anywhere else to learn more about these incredible ingredients visit get roman.com slash usa roman is offering 15 off your first order and will deliver your supplements right to your door with free two-day shipping when you go to get roman.com forward slash usa get 15 off your first order plus free two-day shipping that's get roman g-e-t-R-O-M-A-N dot com forward slash USA. That's good news. Let's try that stuff.

I've been looking for that type of stuff. That's good news. That's what I want. Now we know. Hey, Roman. Thank you, Roman. Thank you, Roman. Thank you, Roman. We got to transition back to what we know more about, which is

the NFL announced yesterday on this show, per a source, this man turned down a lot of money elsewhere to remain with the team that he said he loved, to remain in the city that has said, hey, I love this player, to be an Indianapolis Colt for at least another year. Ladies and gentlemen, pro bowler, stud,

wide receiver, T.Y. Hilton. Yeah! T.Y., what's going on, man? What's good, pal? How you doing? Hey, congratulations. Yeah! Congratulations on a contract. Thank you, thank you.

Hey, the wide receiver market this year was very interesting because New England made some plays, and then you and Fuller and there was who? Juju. Juju. There was a couple big-name players in the wider senior market where that weren't signing. That first wave didn't happen. What was free agency like for you? What was the plan going in?

And did you guys and the Katz brothers, who are your representatives, who are good people, I've known them for a very long time, did you guys plan on kind of waiting back, letting other other people do things or is that just kind of how it's shaped up you think ty um you know i'm a big believer in god so you know i pray a lot so you know my main thing was just be patient you know we ain't chasing no teams they know what i bring to the uh to the team so you know they know what i could do. My main thing would just be patient and whatever happens, happens. I'm not going to chase no team. I played against everybody.

They pretty much know what I can do. If they want me, they can come get me. Let's talk about teams that have played against you because the media doesn't know. The media, I don't think the national media, because whenever I came out and talked about you, there was a lot of people on Twitter or on YouTube that follow our show that I think almost didn't even remember that you were in the NFL for whatever reason.

And it was it was almost like your name is not one that has been talked about since Luck's retirement. Right. You and Luck took over the NFL and the AFC South for a long time. It was beautiful to watch. I got a chance to see that thing grow. Last year, you have a down year, but nobody understands stats-wise, not everything else like that. What people don't understand is you're a player that other teams respect so much. When you started getting

coverages rolled to you, and whenever you started getting... Was that like a cool day for you? Now, granted, it sucks, I assume, but when that starts to happen, is that like a pretty cool thing, a massive compliment from the other teams when that starts to happen to you? Absolutely. I mean, it's a respect thing, you know.

If they take me out of the game, then they got a better chance at winning. But what they don't know is we got playmakers on the field. So if they go take me away, I'm cool with that. Other guys got to step up and make plays. And that's what we've been doing. So I know my numbers are down, but just watch the film and look how teams are playing me um and and it shows that they respect me a lot by rolling coverage towards me putting two or three guys on me it's just i mean what more you want me to do yeah well that by the way whenever there was a tweet put out by

somebody that was like there's no real market for TY or whatever. That was yesterday. Somebody put that out. And I read that, and I was like, there's no way. Because the respect that you say that you talk about, the respect the teams are showing you, I got a chance to witness that. It happened. Whenever Reggie, towards the end of Reggie there, it started like, okay, the same coverages that Reggie was getting, and I assume before Reggie, Marvin was getting,

it started becoming like, okay, it's going to TY now. I think think Belichick I think whenever Belichick did it for the first time for me and Vinatieri was a big thing like damn even hey Bill Belichick is even saying like this is a big deal and I think that's why when I saw that tweet that there was no market I thought it was complete bullshit and then hours later announcement comes out you're going back to the Colts and then you text me you're like hey I turned down a lot of money I was like that that seems to make a lot of sense with that whole thing why did you decide to turn down a lot of you're going back to the Colts, and then you text me, you're like, hey, I turned down a lot of money. I was like, that seems to make a lot of sense with that whole thing. Why did you decide to turn down a lot of money to come back to Indianapolis for the year?

And I don't want you to say the team or out the team, but I assume there was numerous teams involved in this entire thing? Oh, yeah, there was some teams. There was a couple teams, actually. But, you know, some teams, you know, it's free agency, so some teams get their guy and some teams don't. And when they miss on their guy, then they want the next guy. So, you know, I fell in a lot of those categories for some teams.

And other teams are just like, hold on, wait, you know, we're going to get back to you. But, you know, I mean, for me, I just was very patient, you know, through the whole thing. But the one person that I got to give a lot of credit to is Reggie Wayne. I call him 87. And, you know, he helped me out a lot, man. He answered the phone when I needed him. He was a big help all the way through this whole thing. And, you know, I'd give anything for him, man.

And he's a really big brother to me. And I love him to death, man. And just for him to be there every step of the way with me all the way until I signed, it was incredible. incredible but um yeah i actually turned out i actually would have made more money the day i signed than my whole contract with indy so how do you now listen loyalty is awesome okay loyalty listen i won't let you know that's fantastic that's awesome all right that's fantastic. That's awesome. All right? That's way to go.

Hey, that doesn't happen a lot. But the NFL is a business. That's literally what the NFL is. This is a profession. You've made a good bank. But, hey, I understand your family, your circumstances. It's like one of those situations. Whenever that comes across the table, I assume it's not just you. I assume Reggie's within this conversation. I assume the cats, I assume the family's involved in this thing.

How do you make that decision to go with, you know what? I like Indy. I know Indy. And, uh, we got a chance to do something with Carson here that maybe, maybe we can reset it or, or how do you make that decision there? Because more money on the day that you signed than you've ever made an Indy sounds very, that sounds very nice. I don't know. How'd you get through that process of picking indie over that? I was tough, man.

It was, it was very tough. Um, just, just prayer, man, you know, and I asked God to show me signs of what I should do.

No, no, not this bullshit again. You know what he was supposed to go to West Virginia. He was supposed to go to West Virginia. This dude was supposed to be a mountaineer, okay? And he does this whole I believe in science thing is very real with him. His kid picked up a fucking hat to FIU, and that's why he went there instead of going to WVU.

And by the way, it worked out. It worked out, all this thing. But is that real? Like, you just. Listen, listen. I'm going to tell you. True story. No bull.

So I prayed about it. I prayed about it about 12 o'clock. I signed, what, three? So I prayed about it about 12 o'clock. I've been texting Chris Ballard the whole time. So by 2.30, I'm like, man, by 3 o'clock, I'm signing somewhere. Wherever it's at, I'm signing. And then 2.55, I got off the phone

with Chris, and I'm like, are we going to get this done? How can we get this done? And he came up with a number, and I'm like, man, all right, it's all right. It's time for me to go to this next scene. As soon as I

closed his message, Erse texted me. I said, there goes my sign right there. When he texted me, that's when we got it done. When he texted me, we got it done. Was his text like one of his tweets? Was it awesome? What was the text like from Jim Ursae?

It was awesome, man. It was just hoping that we could get it done. I told them the number that I i wanted and they got to it right then and there and the deal got done ah jim ursae is just like brothers i'm trying to what do you need what do you need okay chris just give the guy the that's awesome that ursae gets involved in that entire thing 255 i'm making it i'm making a decision by three j that Ursae gets involved in that entire thing. 255. I'm making a decision by three. Jim Ursae comes in from the clouds with a blue text, I'd assume.

Blue text? Absolutely. Okay. All right. Him and Chris did it, man. I'm very appreciative of them. Okay. What do you know about Carson Wentz?

What are your thoughts on Carson? Have you talked to him? Because this is a big deal. Now, I had Carson on my show. Did you see it? No, I didn't. Oh, this is a joke. I mean, you're in the middle of free agency.

I mean, you got business going on. It's free agency, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You got conversations with God, too, that have to happen. But when he came in here, he was much different than I ever imagined. It feels like he's, you know what I mean? It feels like he lives under a rock, I do believe. I don't think he knows any shit going on outside of football or whatever.

But he loves football, it seems like. And I talked to LeGarrette Blount yesterday, and he was like, Carson's a cool dude. I think there's a chance for something very special if this offense can go. Now, I do believe you guys are going to need another weapon. That's not your decision. I think that would help you out immensely if that was the case. But what do you know about Carson? Have you talked

to him? And how do you feel this year is potentially going to go with him? I've been talking to Carson since the day he signed. He texted me yesterday too. We texted each other yesterday. It was like, are we close? How are we looking? You know,

he wants to play football with me and I want to play with him. So, I mean, it just, you know, he wants to play football with me, and I want to play with him. So, I mean, it's been incredible for him to just continue to reach out to me as I'm a free agent. And, you know, I respect him a lot, and I can't wait to get to work with him. And, you know, I told him, like, you need me, I'm going to be there. I'll go through the fire with you.

And he said, I'll do the same for you. So, you know, we look forward to it. And, you know, there's going to be some big things happening in the end. And I've said this one other time earlier today. And so it might get a little bit played out. And when he walked in, when I saw him, hey, he's got lux. Hey, he's a pretty big son of a bitch. Hey, he's a big son of a bitch.

I did not expect that. Like, when he came in, it was like a real. And I'm wearing my H hey he's a you know i did not expect that like when he came in it was like a real and i'm wearing my hoka ones you know so i got i got so i got a little he's a big dude and it's like as i was watching him walk i was like now he doesn't talk or act or anything like luck or whatever i'm like because you and andrew you guys were awesome it made no sense what you guys were doing it was i believe there was a play call for the nine other people on the field, and then there was just you and Luck there for a while. Whenever you have to change quarterbacks after his retirement,

and you go to Jacoby, then you go to Phillip Rivers, now you're going to Carson. How does that not get, I don't want to say too much, to continue to build chemistry with these people? You know what I mean? Because that's a real big deal with the wide receiver and the quarterback. You and Andrew had a lot of love for each other, not just on the field, but off the field.

Is building that chemistry, like, something that's a priority for you? And how do you do it, especially in the COVID world that we're in right now? You know, COVID makes everything tough, but you just got to do it virtual right now. And whenever you get together, you start building that chemistry, start learning the playbook, learning what what what Carson like what he doesn't like you know what spots he wants you at um you know how you like to call the plays you know what he like this check to you know what routes I like to run so you know once we get once we get those things down um the rest the rest will be easy okay so what was some differences between like Andrew Jacoby,

and Phil that you realized? Whenever, like, different spots you just said, is there, like, ways you break, you make breaks that some quarterbacks like it and they're more comfortable with? And does that change what you have to do? Or are they adjusting to what you do? How does that whole thing kind of come together? It's give and take.

You got to adjust to each other. With Andrew, it's's like night and day. I can just go out there and close my eyes and run an hour out and just know he's just gonna throw the ball regardless of who's standing there. Jacoby, he likes to see the rock and then he likes to throw it. Phillip, he's more a timing guy as well. So he's like you in the spot and then he's going to hit you at it. They're all different in their own ways, but

the one thing that they all have together is they love football, man. They study a lot. From the time they walk in to the time they're leaving, they're always studying. Always in their playbook, always watching film. I give them credit. That's

one thing they all do. Have you talked to andrew all the time we just we just finished texting before i got on he's got to be pumped for you i'd assume oh absolutely uh he's very happy you know he takes me man i'm so proud of you and i told him when i turned down he said wow deuce that's awesome of course andrew yeah he's probably on his bike drinking some super healthy thing. Just like, yeah, the money, it's not about that. Andrew is one of the most interesting humans to ever exist, I think. I do believe that. How is he?

Is he happy yet? Is he? Yeah, he made me want to retire. Connor, what do you have? Yeah, TY, the day before you re-signed with the Colts, the hashtag Bring T.Y. Home was trending for almost 24 hours. Is that

something you see, and does that play any sort of factor into your decisions? Oh, absolutely. That played a big factor, man. I mean, just seeing the songs, seeing the tweets, I mean, it was awesome. I listened to every last one of them, man. It just was incredible, the love that this city has for me, man.

It definitely touched me in a major way. Well, Jim Irsay tweeted after the season, other than T.Y. Hilton, who should be on the other three banners? And I was like, okay, so this is Irsay basically saying, like, this guy's not going anywhere. And then there a press conference where ursae was like if ty can get back we hope he gets back and i'm like oh wait a minute now i'm here and ursae was like chris ballard probably went to gym and was like hey we're just not there you know we and ursae's like let me talk to him let me talk what do you need? Got it. Let me sell this Beatles drum kit real quick.

He is the man. Hey, Chris Ballard has been really cool, I assume, building that culture. It's almost like, because you had to rebuild again. I mean, you had to rebuild the culture. He said before he brought in any free agents, he wanted to build that. What have you seen from the team that Chris Ballard has kind of built? And what are your thoughts on how Chris Ballard has led as a GM now that you've experienced a couple now at this point? Oh, Chris has done an amazing job, man. The guys he has he has bought in has has been all pro players, man. Even the ones that haven't there, they're making a huge impact on the game and they're changing the game.

And the coaches is is family, man, and we all sacrifice something for one another. There's no selfishness, man. We all do it for the team. It's team, team, team. It's never a me. And, you know, when you got that and guys that buy in, man, the team go a long way, and Chris has done a great job, him and Frank.

And, you know, we trust in those guys. You know, it starts from the top, man. And once the guys continue to buy in, man, it's going to be special. I heard you were getting your ass beat in Cornhole. You could. What? That's what people were saying. They were saying, T.Y., because of his record

and what was happening in the locker room in Cornhole, they were thinking maybe you were going to have to go to another locker room to kind of play a little bit different somewhere else that's what i heard the people also said i have i have no teams interested so you know what the people say did you see any of that i mean did you you couldn't i i were you invested in what was going on in the market like that day one when the patriots by the way just spent like a hundred crazy crazy so you have to pay attention to that right i assume you saw absolutely yeah market like that day one when the Patriots, by the way, just spent like a hundred. I went crazy. Crazy. So you have to pay attention to that, right?

I assume you saw. Oh, absolutely. Yeah. What are you like in a war zone, like in a room watching like all the things that what you got going on? I was watching NFL free agent frenzy. You know, I'm a football player, man. You know, it's free agency.

I love watching that. Everybody's getting, Hey, it seems like people are figuring out ways to get paid. I love watching that. Everybody's getting, Hey, it seems like people are figuring out ways to get paid. You should have tried to negotiate one of those 10 year, nine voidable years for $600 million or whatever.

You know what I mean? It's Hey, this you're going to be a free agent again next year. And we assume with the 11 year, $110 billion media rights that just got signed or whatever for the NFL, we assume free agency next year is going to be insane. But have you and the Katz brothers talked about how some of these deals around the NFL are being structured right now? Did that ever come into conversation with the voidable years

and we'll pay this and maybe negotiate this? Was that even a conversation piece about the business of the whole thing? No, not yet. I basically was just looking for a one or two year deal. Okay, so you did want a shorter deal, yeah? Yeah, yeah. Oh, so you can, yeah. Hey.

I'm a business man. By the way, hope you never leave Indianapolis. The fact that you already did this one time, turned down a lot of money, and the fact that it's a number that Andrew goes, wow, that's awesome. The fact that you already did this one time, turned down a lot of money, and the fact that it's a number that Andrew goes, wow, that's awesome. The fact that you did that, I don't want you... Did you see my eyes

tweet yesterday? Yeah, is that when you got the text from Merce? No, that was the text that I was almost gone. Yeah, it was close. It was that close, huh? Oh, my God. Five seconds away, man. God. I wondered where.

Yeah, where were you going to go? Hey. Baltimore. It was Baltimore. Hey, listen. You don't have to tell us, obviously, but I do believe Baltimore was in on something. Yeah. And then also the quarterback.

That's what it was. That's what it was. Was it? Yeah. Okay, so the quarterback. That's what it was. That's what it was. Was it? Yeah. Okay. So we did get that out of you. And we do feel bad, but it's good for us too.

I mean, so we don't know how we feel. But did they come in late there? Is that what you mean? They came in late, huh? Yeah. Well, I've been talking to them the whole time, but, you know, they came in and made a great push at the end and they wanted to get it done hey south florida boy down there playing quarterback you know i mean i assume that was i assume that was something that you know you had to think about at least ty what do you have

ty you mentioned trying to build you know that chemistry with carson have you maybe considered going duck hunting with him is that something you might pick up now that he's your quarterback? Get out there on the pond. Oh, I'll mess with these animals, man. They're kind of crazy. TY, I'm so happy for you. Thank you for saying what you just said, by the way. That's a big deal.

By the way, you know you and carson could become like a hell of a tag team here in india this could be something really special here for the next five four or five years or whatever oh absolutely and i look forward to it man he's he seems like a great guy you know i talked to tory smith today about carson and you know he had a number of great things to say about him and said man y'all got a chance to be real dangerous. So, you know, I just can't, I can't wait. I can't wait to get a chance to work with him. People are now going to be talking about, you know, Hey,

the South Florida boys down there. I mean, the whole thing, that's going to be the whole conversation now is what it would have been like. Interesting stuff. I'm happy you stayed in Indy. The Colts are lucky for that. Thank you for stopping by and chatting with us, brother. Oh, thanks for having me. Hey, how long are we going?

Are you going to let that thing go? Until I retire. Nice. Hey, have you gotten a full as somebody? Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. It hurts like hell, huh? Do it.

Ladies and gentlemen, T.Y. Houghton. He's the best. Oh, my. Okay. Okay, Diggs, way to go. Way to dive in there. Well, I'm just happy he didn't go to the Ravens. Yeah, I think that is a good idea.

And I do believe the public narrative on T.Y. and maybe potential media narrative is much different than teams narratives because you know whenever him and andrew were going it was unbelievable andrew it seemed like would like i said to him like nine nine other guys had a different play going on but he would set go or whatever and he would just close his eyes it looked like in the middle of almost death certain death and just throw it. And then all of a sudden, T.Y. would come flying out of, literally out of the frame. He would come flying into the frame and just crash it with like three people there. And it was like, who is that?

And he stands up and does this whole thing. And it was like, oh, that happened like one time. It was like, that was cool. And then it just started like, it became like in every other game occurrence. Like, hey, this guy and Andrew, they just have this chemistry. They got brought in together. It was unbelievable.

And then as the offense continued to grow, it was, he started getting smarter. Reggie was like with him every single day. It was just like his football IQ and learning how to do things. And he gets down without getting hit. It's, I assume the teams had a lot more respect for him just because

firsthand we were watching teams do what they would normally do to reggie to ty you know it was like a almost like a passing of the baton almost to him and it's hard in football and like he said i think we talked to him last year a little bit i don't know if i texted with him or it was on the show uh but he was like hey if they need me to run just a go so the three people just kind of open things up i'll do it or what and he was doing that without making a big fucking like without being like to the media you know like well my jobs are dead i'm doing this now and he watched those games those colts came it was literally that was happening he was running just like posts and like three people were opening up then the tight end was able to get open which philip rivers loved to throw to. I assume that the other teams

were going to give him a lot more respect than the public and the media was, but I'm thankful he's back in Indy. One year, though, he's going to hit free agency again after a year with Carson. I'll be excited to see how that goes if Jim Ursa gets into the text box again. Well, if he has a good year, too, with Carson, which it seems all signs are pointing to it, he might

be able to get that same Ravens-type money from the Colts next year. Hey, well, they're going to pay Darius Leonard. He's going to be up. They're going to have to pay Quentin Nelson. He's going to be up. They're going to have to pay another offensive lineman, I believe. Kelly?

Yeah, Ryan Kelly's up for another two. One of the highest-paid centers, I think. He's a really good player. He came in when I was still there. Super quiet dude at the beginning. And then I was like, oh, this guy's awesome. He started playing good. Ryan Kelly, good dude.

Really, he's like a guy you'd love having. I've never done it, but like in the locker room, I think I was with him for like a year or two or whatever. Guy you would like to go have a beer with. Like he's a good guy, cool guy. That whole offensive line is awesome. Carson Wentz is going to love it. Like you said yesterday, he had a rugby player blocking for him at right tackle

for a large part of the season. The Colts offensive line, they need another weapon though. They need another weapon. Sammy Watkins, he's perfect. It would be awesome if Sammy... Did we get any update on whether or not he left the building? Because he went to the Ravens, then came to Indy. He has not left the building. By the way,

Juju allegedly got a Baltimore offer, then went back to Pittsburgh. T.Y allegedly got a Baltimore offer, then went back to Pittsburgh. TY got an offer from Baltimore, went back to Indianapolis. I wonder what's going on over there. What's the pitch? Well, probably, you know, everybody saw Harbaugh almost get his ass beat by Mike Vrabel and said, you know what?

I'm going to stay away. I'm going to choose someone else. All right, okay. You saw it last year, even when teams don't completely zero in on TY, that first half against the Raiders, he just went off. Yeah, crazy. If you have another actual weapon with him.

Yeah, that they have to respect. That's the missing piece. And I didn't ask T.Y. this. I'll do this the next time on. But he understands. Like, hey, if you give me somebody else that could potentially take this triple, the safety over top, the jam from somebody dropping in his own, then even another corner coming over.

If we could potentially take care of that, especially with his ability to run routes and he's quick. It's just, he's a stud. The Colts got a very good one. I'd assume in a year from now. I do like the fact that he said I was only going to do a one-year, two-year deal wherever. And he said I'm a businessman. Joining us right now is a man who just signed,

I mean, after a little bit of a, you know, storyline about whether or not it was going to happen. Newest member of the New York Giants, ladies and gentlemen, tight end, Kyle Rudolph. Kyle, how's it going, pal? I'm doing well. Thanks for having me. Hey, where are you right now hanging out?

I see you're in a room that has zero light. I'm up in Minnesota at home. So we got back home from New York yesterday. How was the trip to New York? It was pretty eventful from what I heard on the other side of the Twitterverse here. It was certainly more eventful than I thought it was going to be. year? It was certainly more inventive than I thought it was going to be. You know, you sign contracts and you have your routine like physical that, you know, nothing really ever comes about from. And, you know, I had the foot injury during the season that caused me to miss the last four

games. And, you know, I didn't need surgery at the time. It was something that was going to heal on its own and you know here I was the last two weeks three weeks uh running and training and doing everything completely normal um you know my foot didn't feel any different uh but you know after some pictures in that physical that they realize that it's gonna gonna need to get cleaned up a little bit. But, you know, it's a blessing in disguise because had I not signed with a new team and had a physical in March, you know, we don't have our physicals usually until you go back for training camp.

And, you know, we would have had no idea that my foot even had an issue. And I could have just trained all offseason or gone to training camp and potentially made it a lot worse. So I'm glad I'm just able to get it fixed now in March, and I'll be ready to go when it's time to play football. Well, a couple things.

Congratulations on the contract. Yeah! Thank you. Very awesome. Okay, very happy for you. I think what the Giants are doing right now seems like they're going all in. I enjoy that a lot. Giants fans have to love it.

You don't know this yet. You haven't got to experience it. But that division stinks, Kyle. You might have 70,000 yards next year. Can't wait to watch it. But you're right about that blessing in disguise thing because I assume at this age, right, in the NFL, there are things that are sore on you,

but you've had conversation with people like you can't hurt it worse it's going to hurt you just keep it moving there now was there an actual conversation or a thought because publicly it was like whoa whoa whoa this deal because of the physical might fall through did it ever feel like that through the entire thing after the pictures were done or were the Giants basically like let's look at this a little bit more but we're still we feel pretty good about everything. No, the, the conversations were never is the deal on and off the table. It was, you know, do you have to have your foot fixed now or not? And you know,

that was really the uncertainty because you know a joint in your foot is not like an ACL. You know, if you throw an ACL MRI up there on, on the screen and the ACL is torn, you have to fix it. You know, there are certain things ACL MRI up there on on the screen and the ACL is torn, you have to fix it. You know, there are certain things that some people would say, yeah, I think you should fix that or no, I think it'll be fine. You know, you'll be OK. So so it was more just the predictability of do we fix this or not? And if so, like we need to move forward and make that happen. this or not and if so like we need to move forward and make that happen so that was more the discussions you know like i went out to dinner with with some of the giants people on tuesday

night and you know never was i like oh man like i'm not gonna have a contract anymore okay um so yeah we just pretty much spent all day tuesday calling doctors and getting opinions uh trying to figure out what to do okay because outside looking in there was it felt as if there was a chance now it didn't if there was a chance. Now, it didn't feel like a big chance, but it was like, oh, hold on, this Kyle Rudolph Giants thing might not happen. It's nice to know that the Giants never felt like that. Have you gotten a chance?

I assume you said you went to dinner. Was Joe Judge involved in that? I've only seen Joe Judge recover a fumble in training camp in the mud. And then now with the way that whole thing is going, what was the pitch basically for the Giants? Because a lot of free agents are signing there. They're re-signing their own guys. What was the conversation about what the Giants' future is going to look like?

And why are you excited, aside from the cash? Hey. Hey. Aside from the cash, though, what is the thought of what the Giants are going to be and what are they telling people whenever they get in the building? Well, so I talked to Coach Joe Judds on the phone you know really like right in the middle of the free agent process and you know I probably spent 25-30 minutes just chatting

with him you know getting to know one another all the way back to you know his high school sport days in Philly where I grew up you know his path, and what are his beliefs? How does he want to build this thing? Once I hung up the phone with him, I knew that this was the place that I needed to go to. Yes, I'm an older guy in the league, but at the same time, I don't foresee the end of my career here in the near future. I'd love to play for another five, six, seven years.

And when I see the way that he's building this organization in New York and like you said, the pieces that are being brought in this year, keeping their own guys there, building around the young quarterback that's extremely talented. I just I see this as a great opportunity for me for, for the next, however many years. And obviously then you take coach Joe judge and his culture and the way that he's building things. And you add an offensive coordinator like Jason Garrett, the success that he had in Dallas with, with a pretty good tight end that played well into his thirties as well. So, um, he knows, knows how. He knows how to use a tight end that's old and slow like myself,

so I'm looking forward to being in that system. Hey, how about Jason Witten? People forgetting how damn good he was at football because of that one-year run in Monday Night Football. People forgot. He had to get back out there. The Witten team was like, hey, man, we got to get – listen. Before I forgot how good you were.

He's unbelievable at football, and that offense was beautiful to watch, both with Tony and Dak, and then obviously when he went out to the Raiders there. Five, six, seven more years, I think, is possible, especially now that he doesn't have that busted-ass foot. You know what I mean? That's why I got to fix it.

Have you talked to the young quarterback that has a lot of, it seems like his upside is there. I mean, he reminds me a lot of, and this is going to sound so stupid because I think a lot of people have said it and it's not very original or whatever, but when you see him start to run. Now, I'm not going to say he's the same player as Andrew Luck. Andrew Luck, his rookie year was an NFL vet already.

It was this whole different thing. But his body, his size size it feels like his will his arm it's all there it's just can they keep him alive long enough to make the plays have you talked to him what has been your experience with him what are your first thoughts on him and also Saquon have you got a chance because there's some superstars on that Giants team that you just got added to as well absolutely I got to talk to Daniel over the weekend and um first of all I didn't realize how young he was. He's only 23 years old. And, you know, I just assumed he was a four or five year guy at Duke.

And then obviously he's been in the league now going on his third year. We went up two years ago and played against the Giants. And I remember watching him in that game and some of the throws that he made. I remember talking to some of our defensive guys like Everson Griffin, Harrison Smith. You know, they were like, dude, this quarterback's got some juice to him. You know, he's a stud. And then you watch him kind of over the last two years, and you said it, he's got all the intangibles to be an Andrew Luck-type quarterback.

You know, hopefully we put a bunch of pieces around him and we can take some of the pressure off of him. Let him just go out there and play with confidence and let all those attributes and abilities take over. And then you mentioned Saquon. I haven't talked to Saquon yet, but I would like to think now, this will be my 11th year and, you know, I'm probably blocked for three Hall of Fame running backs in a row.

I mean, going Adrian Dalvin, certainly off to a hot start in his career. And you look at what Saquon's done throughout his first couple years. So as a pretty average blocker, it's always good to have unbelievable running backs running behind you. Hold on. I heard the quote. I heard that the Vikings, the change of the system was another like blessing in disguise for you because you were forced to almost get better at blocking. Look at you. You got to get out there and set your feet, huh? I had to get down and dirty for a couple of years. I'm used to just

running around and catching balls. And that wasn't the case the last couple of years in Minnesota. I don't know Garrett's offense well enough. And I do remember Witten having success. And I don't know if it's the exact same offense that he's running over there but your plan is to get back to catching balls huh? Absolutely you know that certainly played a big part into why I wanted to go to New York as well you know I feel like I have a lot left to offer in that aspect of the game but at the same time now over the last two years I've figured out this blocking thing a little bit and you know i can certainly help on first and second down be out there you know just like i said when you block for a guy like saquon barkley it doesn't take much uh and he's gonna hit a home run every time yeah he's gone he is explosive the giants missed him mightily last year i assume

in the locker room and also on the field you had that that tiptoe, nimble, big guy catch in the back of the end zone, if I do recall right. You still got a little bit in there, huh? I like to think I still got a little bit, but, you know, that was the only ball that came to me in the end zone last year, so I had to make sure I caught it. Oh, my God, oh, my God. This might never happen again.

Let me go ahead and figure this out. Who cares where it's at? I got to grab it. How long is the recovery for that foot? Just a couple months. Like I said, we're just cleaning something up, and I shouldn't miss any football stuff. I'm looking forward to getting back out on the field there

when we start going training camp into the regular season. Okay, you said training camp going into regular season. I won't miss any football stuff. I guess there's a big conversation right now. You're an OG in the league now at this point in year 11. You're probably a part of this conversation. NFL, PA, NFL having conversations about the offseason, remaining what it was last year.

Like, hey, a lot of guys are like, okay, yeah, I tried it one time without it. It was like the lockout year was the best. Like I remember wanting a lockout every year. Now, granted, going to a new team, a new offense, I would assume reps are in meetings and everything like that's going to help your thoughts on what the i don't want you to say like i think this is the right way or this way do you think there's a chance though that off seasons going forward are going to be much more like what we saw last year from the conversations you're hearing amongst the nfl

pa or do you think the nfl is going to win that and say we need you back in the building? Well, I'm not in any of the PA conversations, but, you know, I understand the young player side, and obviously I see the perspective as an 11-year vet side. The thing that I would say if we were to have last year's offseason, hopefully we can at least have some preseason games. season um hopefully we can at least have some preseason games uh those preseason games are are far more important to younger guys who that's their resume you know what you put on tape in those two three preseason games that you get to play in that's not only your resume for for the team you're currently on but for the other 31 teams as well to evaluate you but i will say for young guys the the setup that we had last year with kind of the the virtual meetings for a few weeks and then a couple weeks leading into

training camp was like all right they called them you know like um they were almost phase one and phase two of the old off- program, OTAs type stuff. Yeah. In my opinion, it helped bring young guys along so much quicker than, hey, we're going to bring you in for rookie minicamp. We're going to give you an hour install. We're going to throw you on the field with a bunch of Tommy try-hards that are trying to prove to the NFL scouts that they need to be out there when 50 out of the 60 guys aren't going

to be on the roster the next week. And then the next thing that they happen is they get thrown on the roster with a bunch of vets and then they're on the vets at practice. And I just think the setup last year where by the time we hit the field in late July, these rookies had gone through an install three, four times and they hit the ground running. And I think a lot of our young players were able to contribute this year, most notably Justin Jefferson, who was a phenomenal rookie, just went out and made plays from day one. And I'm not saying that Justin wouldn't have had a great year. I just think when we showed up in July, he was ready to roll.

And it almost allowed his natural ability to take over because he wasn't grinding through all these installs and thinking about, you know, the nuances of an offense. He had already been through it three or four times. So I think there are good things from both a young player and an old player's perspective with last year's offseason. I would like to see preseason games, especially for the young guys because that's their resume. That's their only opportunity to show what they got.

What a hero. Let's go. It's bigger than him, Kyle. It's bigger than me. It's bigger than me, Kyle. Well, trust me, I love the offseason too. I don't have to show up until mid-July. Well, not this year.

My golf game just got destroyed for the next couple months, but normally I'd play a lot of golf. I was going to say, you went to Notre Dame, so I assume you're now granted. I watched that admission scandal. That means nothing, I guess, at this point. It doesn't matter where you went. Did you see that talk?

I haven't seen it, but I know what you're talking about. Let's be honest. The only reason I went to Notre Dame was because of football. Well, there's a lot of people that have gone to a lot of schools for sports that they had no idea even existed before they got a scholarship for said sport. It just seems one of those things. Learning a new offense, though, anything for you? I assume you already have the iPad.

You're already looking into it. Is there anything? You know, playing for a defensive coach for 10 years, you know, my first three coach for 10 years you know my first three years I played for Leslie Frazier and then uh the last seven coach Zimmer this is my sixth offensive coordinator in six years so it's just kind of like this is what we do in the offseason you learn a new offense so uh you know now I'll have quite quite a few more new teammates than I've had the last few years but uh in terms of learning a new offense, learning a new system,

it's just the sixth year in a row that I'm going through it. You know, some people are saying that Kyle is potentially a big, dumb dipshit. Turns out that's not the case at all. This guy has six offenses already in 10 years. Unbelievable. Hey, your statement there about playing for a defensive coach, having different coordinators is so interesting and fascinating. And while you were saying it, I was like, oh, yeah, that probably is a kid.

When the defensive guy's in charge and say, hey, that offense needs to be better. We need to do that whole thing. Probably much more likely than if an offensive guy's in charge. Like, hey, our defense is letting us down. That's kind of like a natural human instinct in this entire thing. Fascinated by it all. What do you have, Connor? Yeah, Kyle, there was a report last year that Joe Judge went up

against the offensive line coach Colombo and that they threw hands. Based on your conversation. That was debunked by most parties that were around, but that was a conversation at one point. Yeah, based on your conversation with him, you know, talking about playing sports back in the day, do you think Joe Judge is someone who would go up against somebody, you know, who has 100 it. I mean, he's a big dude and he's fiery. I just, I love his energy. I love, you know, what he brings to the table, his attitude.

Obviously, Pat, you referenced the video of him diving on the football in the mud in training camp. And I think he's a perfect combination of, you know, he's got the old school mentality. He's an old school coach. You know you're going to go out there and work. But at the same time, he has enough of this new school recovery, let's take care of the guys in his mentality.

It's kind of like the perfect combination. So, again, I'm fired up to get up there. I can't wait to go to work. Did he say anything about that watch that you just flexed on the camera right there? It's fake. Hey, me too. Me too. You know what I i mean me as well pal but you know when nobody asks you if it's fake when you're a professional football player they just assume it's real i've told this story before i had these massive obnoxious earrings i wore in college

soon as i get in the nfl same exact earrings same exact group of friends how much are those it's like these are the same shitty-ass Claire's earrings. This is the same one. And especially when every contract that you have is very public. Like, for instance, we knew exactly how much money you were making when you're making it and everything like that. It's a much different world. Yeah, exactly.

What do you have, Diggs? Kyle, have you talked to Evan Ingram yet and told him that, hey, he's going to have to move to wide receiver? There's a new tight end in town. I talked to Evan a little bit yesterday. I mean, that's what Evan does best. I mean, he does things that I would never imagine doing out there on the field. And he's phenomenally talented at being a pass catcher.

And I just – like I said, I think at one point last year, they even gave him a handoff. You take any handoffs? I've never gotten a handoff. They would put me at fullback maybe and be like, all right, you're the lead blocker, but we are never handing you the football. He has a completely different skill

set than I do. He's a pro bowler. Boated in last year to the pro bowler, so extremely talented last year to the pro bowler. Extremely talented. Just another weapon on this offense. I think our styles can really complement one another because we are completely different. Did you talk to Jason Garrett? I did. Jason went to dinner with us the other night.

He's just... He's as good as they come. Was he doing this? I didn't see any of that. That's great news, by the way. Was he doing this? I didn't see any of that, no. Oh, okay. That's good. That's great news, by the way, because in Dallas, now that we're learning more about what potentially happens behind the scenes, he had to go out there and literally just

kind of, okay, all right, for a long time. And I think he was maybe misjudged for a long time, kind of like what's potentially happening with Bill O'Brien and Houston and everything like that. What is he like as a dude? Seems like a genuine good guy, huh? Yeah, great dude. I really, really enjoyed both my phone call with him before I signed and then dinner the other night.

Just extremely down to earth. Obviously, he's been at it for a long time as a player and as a coach and had all kinds of unbelievable stories of, obviously, Jason Witten, the guy that played my position that we talked about before. But just, you know, all of his years, both as a player and as a coach. And, you know, I really enjoyed just hanging out, having dinner with him and talking football. What did you guys eat?

We went to an Italian place. Oh. Was it in Jersey? It was unbelievable. So it was up actually – it was north of the city in Rye, which is about 40 minutes north of Manhattan. But that's – one of our family friends lives up there. Yeah, like you said, that's –

Yeah. But it was a cool little town, an unbelievable restaurant. The chef, huge Giants fan. So it was a ton of fun. Chicken parm. We go chicken parm. We go a little pasta. We kind of had a little bit of everything.

So we sat down and basically chef asked if we didn't like anything. And my wife is Italian, so she just was in heaven. And he pretty much just brought out like a bunch of different things. And it was one of the best meals I've ever had. Wow. A lot of Italians in Minnesota or no? Not really. We're imported.

We're not really from here. Hey, by the way, Indiana, not a lot of Italians. I grew up in Pittsburgh. Too many Italians. You don't realize what the Italians bring to the city until you go to Indiana where there's no Italians. It's like, can I get some chicken parm from a place? And they're like, yeah, you got a Puccini's or whatever to drive to. It's like, ah, it's still going to be good.

But the Italians over there in Jersey, oh, your wife is going to be thrilled to be back. The energy that ends. Oh my God. The culture, everything. Ty, what do you have? Kyle, you mentioned a couple of your previous coaches. What was your relationship with Kevin Stefanski like like and because you saw guys going all the time

did you know like mid you're like okay this guy's probably not going to be around for much longer yeah totally i mean i i saw kevin climb the ladder as quick as anyone in that industry went from when i got here as a rookie we were both about as low as it gets on the totem pole. You know, I was a rookie and he was the head coach's assistant. And then a couple of years later, he thinks that job stinks. Head coach's assistant.

Yeah. You know, you're making coffees and get making coffees and getting coffees for everybody. That's, that's pretty much your job full time. And then, you you know he works his way up he becomes the assistant quarterback coach um and then so after after coach frazier

got fired they hired uh coach zimmer coach zimmer made him the tight end coach so i had him in my room for two years oh and then it was uh straight you know he went from tight end room to running back room so unbelievable upgrade he got to coach Adrian Peterson. Obviously that made him look good. And then he went from Adrian in the running back room to the quarterback room. And he was only in the quarterback room for one year. And then he's offensive coordinator. And at that point, you know, he's on the fast track.

And I'm not surprised by his success. You know, when he took over our room as a coordinator and he was in charge of the room running meetings, you could just see a calm, cool demeanor about him. Like, he just, you know, he was a high school player in Philly, played at Penn. His dad's unbelievably successful as a GM in the NBA. Like, you could just tell nothing was too big for him.

He was calm, cool. He knew how to run a room. You knew he was going to be a head coach really quickly. The dog pound has to be so thrilled. Freddie Kitchen was running draws on 4th and 15. Then Stefanski comes. He's coach.

Oh, shit. I just saw Freddy yesterday good guy good dude good dude Michael that's on me Freddy

hey listen there's probably things that I didn't know love you Freddy love you love you listen

good luck this was going very well that's on me I forgot about that move. I love Freddie. Hey, listen, I'm a big fan. Hey, we can pimp it.

Four years ago to the day, we were partying in Vegas together. So we'll change the subject real quick. Hey, great time in Vegas, by the way. March Madness, absolutely. Hey, March Madness. Notre Dame stinks, huh? Oh, yeah. They're terrible.

What's that all about, dude? It was a rough year. Notre Dame basketball. Obviously, I follow they're terrible. What's that all about, dude? It was a rough year. Notre Dame basketball, obviously I follow Notre Dame basketball. That's where I went to school. But then my family all has season tickets down in Lexington. My mom is one of 11 born and raised in Kentucky. Oh, they stink. They stink.

I mean, that was terrible. Not good at all. Not good at all. Not good at all. So it was a rough year. I joked around. I'm like, if I filled out a bracket right now, I might as well fill out the European Cricket League bracket. Like, I have no idea what's going on in college basketball.

I know nothing. You're not the only one. We all lost massive amounts of money. I mean, massive amounts of money over here. Because a little piece of Vegas has moved to Indiana into sports gambling. And this college college march madness thing has been just you know befuddling but the good thing about the kentucky squad in big blue nation calipari didn't come out early when he knew their team was going to stink and say let's not have a season yeah coach

k did do that yeah k was like we don't even want to let's not have a season because our team's going to stink calipari took it right in the chop. So I kind of respect that out of him. Yeah, no, they certainly did not have a good year. But, you know, he does it. Most of the time they have a ton of talent and they put the pieces together. But you look at those teams almost every year, they take it on the chops early in the year.

But most of the time they figure it out. And this year there was no figuring it out. It was a tough year for Big Blue Nation and the Cats the cats that was they're already looking forward to next year the calvary was not coming over the hill no no who's that lady the famous actress lady she's actually judd actually judd yeah she always has that much madness moment where inevitable heartbreak comes or whatever no anyways i can't wait to do it to kyle rudolph now that i know he's big big Kentucky Wildcats fan. Good luck in New York.

Good luck with recovery. We appreciate you joining us, and congrats on everything, man. Thanks, guys. I appreciate it. It's always fun chatting with you. You're going to get a big old house in Jersey, so you have some trees like you got back there in Minnesota? What are you going to do? No, you can have a lot more room up here in Minnesota.

In Jersey, we ain't getting no trees. Hey, Zillow in Jersey and New York is no fun. Indiana, Minnesota, Zillow is a great time. What do you have, Z? You can buy Tony Soprano's Haas. It's for sale right now. That'd be awesome. Go ahead and make that happen, Kyle.

Become the best player in the NFL overnight. Ladies and gentlemen, Kyle. So sorry to interrupt, but with the NCAA tournament in full swing, it's safe to say most of you are going to be hard at work this weekend on your bets and maybe trying to save your bracket. You're darn right. Whether you're going to be backing favorites or trying to get cute with some underdogs, our good friends at CBDMD have the perfect topical product

to keep you cool and comfortable while you're hunched forward screaming at 20-year-olds on the television for the next few weeks. That's what I'm talking about. CBD Freeze with menthol is an award-winning product that offers temporer instant cooling relief for sore muscles and joints in a convenient and easy to use roller or shareable squeeze tube. Love this stuff.

And it's, by the way, it's not like, you know what by the way it's not like you know no no it's very convenient it's very easy and the superior cbd that you're getting makes your body just feel so good so good so good and make it even easier to try freeze and all their other incredible products they're offering you 25 off your next order when you use the promo code mcafee at checkout now we're talking you go to cbdmd.com use promo code mcafee 25 off your purchase of superior cbd products from cbd m d shout out to cbd md shout out cbd pm by the way another thing that i use it puts you to sleep and you feel so good in the morning yeah also a big fan of that they have them in um tablets i believe and a tincture dropper little

gels yeah they have bath bombs and bath salts that you can go into to make your body feel better and relaxed and everything. CBDMD has been a really, really great addition to my life. Yeah, I used to think this stuff was foogazy. It's not. I mean, it legitimately does work. Yeah, it did seem like at the beginning of the CBD run, there was a lot of snake oil. Yeah. Okay.

Well, this isn't going to help. But CBDMD has the actual tested superior CBD. Right. And it does actually. All the science that they say about CBD, it's real. Yeah, it packs a punch. And CBDMD is fantastic. We appreciate them.

Back to the show. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, AJ Hawk. Yeah! AJ. AJ representing the Arnold Classic over there in Columbus, Ohio, where the people who lift more weights than you go gather around and see who lifts more weights than who. I love the thought of potentially going to the Arnold Classic one day

whenever I'm yoked up enough. AJ, there's next to nothing to talk about today whenever it talks about things going on. But the Russell, and I'm getting attacked right now by Seattle Seahawks fans. I want to let you know I ain't worried about nothing with you little bum-ass boys coming after me from Seattle. I want to let you know, I ain't worried about nothing. I observe and report here, Diana Rossini this morning basically reiterated

the fact that the Russell Wilson situation, she even said, like, he's not an epi with what they did in the offseason free agency-wise with the offensive line. It's like, okay, so bury the offensive line again line again like it feels like this thing is still potentially working over there i'm the bad guy for reporting that it is being reported but the conversation seems to be very much alive still aj that would be insane if that was to happen again yeah i mean it's still alive and let's see if we get to the draft like what happens if seattle uses its first two picks on defensive players,

people that aren't going to really help bolster what Russ has been complaining about? Then we're really going to have an issue. Can you imagine the day after Russ just posts a video of him just tapping his foot? Like Team 3 posts a video of them all just like with the super white guy gif where, you know, the, excuse me, that thing, what if that's what Team 3 does?

It just, it feels like Team 3 is talking to her potentially. And also, she definitely had inside information that Seattle was doing stuff. It feels like she's pretty plugged in in this situation. If she's reporting it, I think we are okay to chat about it, that it must be a real thing. Nobody expected that Chicago Bears offer to come uh public that it was especially with the meeting in North Dakota him him on a lot of teams though and we had this discussion a couple

weeks ago so we might as well revisit it now him on a lot of teams immediately makes it very exciting like he is a player you know like that is why this is such a a big conversation and also probably why the Seahawks fans are getting so upset about me talking about things that are being talked about already. So they're upset at you because you're reporting on what Rossini has said. But they're mad because they think that everything's all patched up and that Russ is going to be there and going to be happy. They think that it's Russ is going to be a Seahawk. There's nothing that is because he did say go Hawks in that other video and everything.

His contract, isn't it his contract that's going to keep him from being able to get out of there? and everything like that. It's his contract. Isn't it his contract that's going to keep him from being able to get out of there? $39 million next year, $26 million the following year, which would be a dead cap hit whether he was on the team or not on the team, traded. So if Seattle was to, let's say, get the Miami Dolphins four picks in the first 50 picks they have this year for Russell Wilson

and then maybe get two or something else, they could potentially rebuild that. Because how young the team would be, I guess they're just saying we'd be able to eat that 39 million dollars and if you have to eat 39 million dollars next year and 20 60 year after that i would assume three ones over the span of the next three years a fourth or a third rounder and two starters would be nowhere near enough if you had to eat that with the salary cap the way it is which is what the chicago bears offered so maybe the bears just didn't make an enticing enough offer given the circumstance.

I guess with the dead cap numbers, are they able to use the creative void years once it's on the books? Is there a way to get away from that? Yeah, I wonder if he could restructure the contract before he gets traded so that they can make the voidable years. I wonder. No, because if it's – I don't know, because then if he restructures the contract, then the dead cap would have to change.

Oh, man, I don't know. But if he restructures his contract and gives the next team more money than he was giving the Seahawks, didn't he not set them up for not having enough success to maybe bring in an offensive line or something? Like, oh, it's just a never-ending circle right now that could potentially become a big old boom if he does get traded what's up dude so i wanted to clarify um the 39 million in dead cap is if he's traded this year pre pre 6-1 all 39 is this year post 6-1 it's 13 million this year

and 26 million next year oh if he's traded next year say he plays this season with seattle seahawks it's 26 million total pre-6-1 26 million next year oh so it's not it's not 39 it's a combination of 39 or a combination of 36 oh so it's much different now now okay they're 39 if he's traded this season or 26 million if he's traded next year yeah yeah spread out though yeah it would be designated post-tune one yeah you could eat 13 million in dead cap and then i guess what you could try okay million if he's traded next year yeah yeah spread out though yeah it would be designated post june one yeah and you could eat 13 million in dead cap and then i guess what you could try okay we're gonna eat the 13 this year we're gonna figure out what to do with the 26 next how do you do that yeah we're gonna make it a voidable thing and then we'll get some comp and uh some comp picks

they'll figure out how to do that that's a lot different than 39 and 26 which i thought i was that was my understanding that's much different if it If it's only 39, it still stinks. Like, hey, let's not get – it stinks to not have $26 million, but allegedly the salary cap next year, which is when the $26 million would hit them because the 13 would hit them this year, the salary cap's supposed to be going up, and they're supposed to have a lot of money.

So maybe it's – maybe the three firsts wasn't timely enough. Maybe the Dolphins of we have the picks now is better. I don't know. What do you think it's going to three first wasn't timely enough maybe the dolphins of we have the picks now is better i don't know what do you think it's going to take to get them i i don't know but who do you who is going to replace russell wilson if he's not in seattle they have to have that plan well that's maybe why they met up there in fargo north dakota and that's why i think chef he said wait until we see the draft on who they pick and what they got going on if they make any moves wouldn't you want to have those picks going into the draft though yeah you'd think that's why I think Shefty said, wait until we see the draft on who they pick and what they got going on, if they make any moves. Wouldn't you want to have those picks going into the draft, though? Yeah, you'd think.

That's why the Dolphins are so enticing, because they can get a quarterback in the future. Right now. Immediately. By the way, they can go up to two. Yeah. They could potentially go up to two with what they have and get whoever they want if they get to four within the 50. Now, Jacksonville, I believe they're all in on Trevor Lawrence. You're not going to be able to get to one.

But much like the Washington football team did to the St. Louis Rams after Andrew Luck got drafted they can move up to two and make their play and they got Robert Griffin the third obviously who would be the number two overall now that's the question for everybody another reason why the Dolphins would be so intriguing Nick just texted the group the Seahawks only have three picks in this year's draft they have a round they rounder, a fourth rounder, and a seventh rounder. That's Gumpy, obviously, pretty thrilled about the situation the Dolphins are potentially in. And Rossini said this morning that although four teams were mentioned

by his agent when possible trade, he would be open to other places too. So it's very fascinating. And the Seahawks fans hate hearing it and I can understand that whatever but like this is something that's happening dude it's happening right in your face the Seahawks fans are a fickle bunch unfortunately are they the 12s only came around when they actually got good at football oh so you're saying it's kind of a Johnny come late someone who lived on the west coast I know how Seahawks fans are. Now, see, I'm going to propose a question that could debunk what you just said.

Yes, sir. Portland Timbers play soccer? Yep. Loudest fans? Yep. Okay, loudest, loudest fans. Any other sport happens in the Pacific Northwest? Loudest fans, loudest fans.

The Seattle Seahawks fans weren't the most dedicated, loudest fans all the time. That is just very recent, you're saying? Seattle Mariners, loudest fans when they were good. Seattle Mariners, stink. Empty stadium, always. Well, there's nothing to cheer for. Don't forget about the Sounders, either.

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. And Drew Carey. He's out there. What? What? Cleveland, dude. No, Drew Carey, like, I saw something.

He was like a photographer for the Seattle soccer team. Listen to this guy. You just made that up. Drew Carey. No, he... The Price is Right, dude. He ruined that show. Yeah.

He ruined it? Yeah. Isn't he still on it? Bro, we need the Drew Carey show or whatever the hell the name of that show was back. Need him off of Price is Right. Need that show back who's lying yeah no no no no the drew carey show yeah we need that one back okay and who's lying any is it anyways awesome show wayne brady showcased his brain on that show it was just unbelievable now i do wonder i did i do wonder if there was you was any setups for those.

I know. No, if there wasn't, which I don't think there is, incredibly talented. But now that I'm getting older, I'm a little bit more, you know, that seems like bullshit. I have to think about that. But that show was good. Bryce is right. He's done, I mean, massive damage. Checks out.

What's that? Checks out. Photographer checks out. 2006? Yep. 2006. Pull it up. I'm sure there's some footage, footage too of him out there aj was a police officer 15 oh we found some footage of you too bell but you just you just referenced we're talking about the seahawks fans we're talking about the seahawks

fans and the mariners fans everything like that what's the police officer i can hear the guys cackling in the room. Yeah, they're pouring. But you took that conversation 15 years out of the way for Drew. Do you understand? Drew Carey, you took that conversation. I'm trying to tie it all together, man. You're all over the place. I'm just trying to tie things together. Oh, I appreciate you.

Hey, thank you, AJ. Also, thank you for your service for the community because... Yes. I do not remember doing that. Oh, yeah. I believe this was 2006 as well when Drew Perry was a photographer in Seattle.

But, AJ, we appreciate your service to our community, pal. Really. Thank you, AJ. Thank you, Mr. Hawk. Somebody call the police. Is that what you were... I'm trying to figure out what this was

and why I did this. Well, I would like to hear Mrs. Hawk's thoughts on this as well. She has no idea. She did not know this happened. Yeah, right. This is your idea. Don't act like you don't remember doing this. I remember the big coverage of you was A.J. Hawk puts in state-of-the-art green room in his house

to shoot things that only movie studios can shoot. This is one of them. Now, obviously, nowadays, this type of technology is readily available, but when A.J. was putting green screens in his fucking room to make videos like this, nobody was able to pull it off. Seems to have a lot of memory issues for a guy

who claims to never have had a concussion. Yeah, well, he also has, what, four blown teeth, nine root canals? Disintegrated one as well. Yeah, they were picked up, it's just straight dust. That was unbelievable. What the hell was that? Was that like a click it or ticket thing you had going on?

It had to be at the stadium because I was wearing like the Packers team issued beanie and we were not allowed to take anything home so I would never have

anything like that on when I was at my house. Team beanies? Everything. We can't take you don't take anything home from there. That's unbelievable.

What, you're not allowed to have a Packers hoodie? Bro, hold on though. If you buy it from somewhere. Hey, to your point though, AJ like I got like a couple Chargers hoodies you know yeah from the chargers and everything like that i was like this is so nice to them because it's not normal i think i think a lot of people

just assume that the players have like everything you know and it's like we do and we're at the facility you know like okay put it in the bag do everything like that but all the the gear and the merch and stuff like that that's not just like a gift to everybody okay congratulations you play for our team here's our all our field day game day shit or whatever that's not how it goes so once the Chargers started sending me stuff and by the way their color against my Irish uh you know complexion it was pretty good little mix and I was starting to really enjoy the hoodie the Colts found out I've gotten more Colts stuff now that I'm that I'm not a Colt than I ever did as a Colt you're 100% right with that thing I got 10 I got 10 hoodies over here that they're like listen the Chargers I we saw what the Chargers were trying to

do the equipment room said listen we saw what the Chargers were trying to do that is no more they've sent me one item from the Colts equipment room a day for the last two weeks. And it's just – they're showing up at my house too. It's just like with little cards from my like dear friends in the equipment room, like we still got more. And then there's like they had an all-white hoodie, and it said all-white-er thing. Right. And that was in the thing.

It's just like there's more coming, pal. So I'm getting more now than I ever got as a player. It's nice to hear that the Packers are also the same way. I assume that it was an anomaly what we had going on. No, you just don't like anything because they sew in your number and your shorts and shirts and everything. So they keep track of you. You couldn't just snake stuff and take it home. You could get as much as you want while you were there at the facility, but yeah, you just don't take it home. That's like the jersey swap. Whenever that became something, that was wow to me. There used to be pretty harsh penalties financially

if you wanted to swap jerseys at the end of a game. They're like, yeah, you can go ahead and swap jerseys. It's going to cost a couple thousand, but, you know, yeah, do whatever you want to do, man. You just want to give away jerseys and make us have to sew your name onto another jersey and have three more extras for you. It's going to cost you a little bit. And then guys just started doing it all the time.

I think it's just like almost an understood thing at this point. What's that Z? So what do you get penalized by? You just get to buy it? Yeah, they charge you for the jersey that you just gave away. So not only for that, like for gear that's in the actual locker room. Each place is different. Every team is different.

At least if you took it, in Green Bay they wouldn't charge you, but they would ask you where it is. If you had a couple things that you took from the facility, you could ask them and eventually get stuff. Like you said, Pat, I've gotten a lot more from Green Bay since once I left there. I'm always still tight with the equipment guys. I get boxes of stuff and things like that. Cincinnati,

though, I got a big old bag of Cincinnati hoodies. That's where all the money's going. It's starting to make sense that's why they don't have an indoor that's why they don't have an indoor facility do you think maybe i don't know and they gave it every kind of option of hoodie long sleeve three-quarter cut like everything you could ever think about practicing in but when i signed there yeah their equipment guys gave me a big box of stuff and i'm like yeah this is perfect i grew up a fan of this team. That's probably why they did it, by the way. Welcome back to 08, they probably said.

To them, I would have absolutely responded, yeah. Okay. They did do that, though? No. You know, we get an Oklahoma Sooner here. I say Boomer. The word Sooner is coming out before it even happens. Are they a more passionate fan base

than... I would like to wrap up this conversation, though, Drew Carey. The Colts equipment room. Did you hear Billy Gardell got a commercial? Yeah. What was it, by the way? Pittsburgh guy. Ozempa. Ozempa.

Shout out to Billy Gardell, by the way. He's running through cones on a commercial. But whenever you're talking about the Colts equipment room, I have to make sure this is clear because I'm very tight friends with all of them as well. It wasn't as like you get nothing like the Packers, but it's not like what everybody thinks it is where you can just go in and say, I need an XL. Okay, I'm out of here.

I'm going to go ahead and go home with this thing. It's not like that at all. And to be honest, I don't think guys really ask for stuff like that. Like, you know what I mean? One guy, whenever he got cut uh he took everything and it was like big conversation was like yo he he stole everything that he the guy just stole everything and he was potentially going to come back on the team later in the year i think practice squad and uh i do believe everybody's like that guy like stole from us right so it is

one of those things where it's not expected for you to get a bunch of it's like kind of an understanding thing but whenever you do get a little you know a hoodie or something it is nice to be like okay all right i got a fucking hoodie here i don't have to buy this this is very nice is that kind of like at hard knocks when they give you that bag you have to give it back at the end yeah it's like because when you come in it's either people either have a loop system or a bag system depending upon what it is and you throw it into a a big ass uh mobile uh like cart thing yeah it's very it's very and then did you have lockers i assume you guys had lockers in the morning yeah we had lockers up top you know no did they what sorry yeah lockers oh like where

you got your uh your loop or your bag from no in green bay and cincy uh they just they hang your bag back in your your locker oh wow oh, oh, oh. Wow. Also, hey, you said I'd frog. I never said you don't get anything in Green Bay. You could get a lot of stuff, but you have to communicate. You have to let them know. They don't want you just walking off in their stuff, and then they think, like, okay, where's number 50's long sleeve

that he works out in every day? Oh, it's not here. The idiot took it home the last four days. Yeah, yeah. Hey, do you want that long sleeve? Why don't you bring it back in? I mean, we can give you another one for sure, but what, are you stealing from the team? Is that what you want that long sleeve yeah why don't you bring it back in i mean we can give you another one for sure but not what are you stealing from the team is that what you

want more laundry detergent when you were wearing that charger sweatshirt herbert was on the show and he was like i haven't even i haven't got one of those why don't i have yeah it's not a that's not a normal thing that is not a very normal thing especially with the amount of guys that are in like each week you know guys come in weekly and i'd assume they're potentially the ones that are like can i get like uh two hoodies maybe sweats or whatever hey you can fuck off all right all right absolutely we appreciate what you're about to do here and then you do your thing it's like a work uniform almost you know yeah of course what did you wear to work you wore gym shorts you mean like on the way in or once i was there? On the way in. I don't know.

The same pants all week. Sweats? What? Do you wear sweats? Yeah, of course. I didn't wear jeans one time into an NFL locker room. I see. Hard hat.

That's the difference between me and AJ. I put the jeans on and go to work. Wow. You know what I mean? There has to be a separator. Like, okay, home. Okay. Is it because then you get to work?

Once you get to work, then you put your sweatpants on and you just lounge all day. Maybe. Team sweatpants. Maybe. By the way, tights. I was a big long tights guy. I wore those every single day. Tights, shorts over top, long sleeve, or triple XL, long sleeve, cut the sleeve off, tight on underneath.

I had good swag around the building, I think. I think my swag in the building was pretty above average. As my weight got bigger and smaller, though, it did change the look a little bit. I had to go to a hoodie a couple times when I was a big boy. But I always put my jeans on to go to work.

This isn't a fucking living room. You know what I mean? I just drove. Tim McAfee would never allow that to happen. Actually, he wore sweats to work the other day. He did? Tim?

Yeah, Tim did. You didn't see him? No. I must have just assumed he had jeans on. Casual Friday. Casual Friday. Wow.

Full sweats. Looked good. He did look very good. I gave him a, what's going on here? Sweats, huh? I'm at work. What are we doing?

Tim goes, you want me to smack you in the mouth? I'm joking. I was on a card talk show yesterday. How did that go? 440, I know you went on. Yeah, 441, 442. It was tough to get into the yard there. So they...

The gate was locked. The gate was locked in the yard. We had to knock on the door. We got in there. I believe it was our fault, not theirs. I did not know I was going on to... It We had to knock on the door. We got in there. I believe it was our fault, not theirs. I did not know I was going on to – it was a Gary Vee run show. I did not know it was in the Gary Vee universe.

I had no idea. VaynerMedia, right? I did not know it was in that umbrella, though, at all. And then as soon as I sit down, you know, there's three guys, hilarious dudes. Okay, there's Ryan, Tyler, and Lou. Lou. Our guy Lou. Yeah, Lou. Lou down in the bottom.

And I know nothing about sports cards. That is very well known by almost everybody that's ever listened to me speak. They know that that is something I would never really get into. But as of late, it's starting to pique my interest, you know, like because the NFTs have become something where I'm like, okay. And the NFT community, cards community, kind of the same. Anyways, I go on this show. They mention Gary early, and I'm like, all right, I'm going to tell a Gary story here.

We got a chance to chat about loving Card Talk Live here, one of Gary Vee's show here about sports cards. He did text me like a year and a half ago, two years ago. He's like, you see what's going on in the sports card community? And then Lefkoe hit on top, like, you see what I'm doing here or whatever. I'm like, love what you guys are doing doing they were ahead of the curve for sure um but it led us to talk and get a chance to chat about um the basketball play that Gary Vee made and I I said I have no idea how he did not get smacked right in the mouth after he fouled that guy and I think it's because

everybody on the internet's like okay uh it's like Uncle Gary up there. Like, Gary has been around a long time. Everybody on the internet is at a – it's like respect, respect. But he fouled the shit out of that guy. I thought he was going to get fought. He did not. He had a card talk show yesterday. I think they did well, AJ. You should have joined us for that thing.

At some point in the show, can Zeke pull that up? I would just like to see what Gary Vee did on the foul. Oh, dude. I just said it. Broke this dude's arm. Now listen, I assume we're going to get a strike. I assume Gary has this thing already purchased. No. The video? No, content. He would want it to be shared.

That's one of the 101. That's right. That's a left jab for sure. Yeah. He shoots a ball. Three point shot. Gets blocked. Guy goes down the Yeah, he shoots a ball. Three-point shot. Gets blocked. Guy goes down the other side. Gary V.

Hustle play. Grinding. Hey, in the dirt. It never stops. Okay, in the dirt. Runs down. This guy's going for a layup. Here's a...

Okay, here it is. I don't know how this wasn't a fight. Good jump. Guy blocks him. Look at him. Run him. Pow! Wow.

You see that? And the dude, like, hugged him and thought it was all right well because he's gary v i don't know if there's a lot of people that could do that in a pickup game and by the way he was oh that was going in that was going in bang hey you know what though hey i give him a ton of credit because nothing is more frustrating than when a guy has a breakaway and somebody fouls him and lets him make it like If you're going to foul him, kill him. If you're not going to foul him, just run away and don't foul him at all. Yeah, if you're going to foul in a pickup game,

it's probably going to lead to an argument anyway, so might as well not let them score. Plus, that guy blocked him before that, so you have to get retaliation. You can't do that in pickup. You just cannot do that. That is the number one rule in pickup. You do not do that. This looks like maybe one of the 16 days that Gary Vee didn't want to get up and get it this year.

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. No, you see him huffing. He's getting after it. That guy sprinted more than anybody in this room has in the last year and a half in that one, you know, let me get back on defense here. Now, I do wish that we would have potentially seen some more footage of gary v and his squad doing the loyola chicago give the crud wig underneath hey careful man you're gonna roll both your ankles on stop all stop all Give it to crud wig underneath Hey careful man, you're gonna roll both your ankles on stop off stop off by the way the hookah Oh, no, no, no, do make me a little bit taller for my vertical

See that I'm a member of the SWAT team. Okay, you come in to paint Expect for the kitchen to get hot pal with the verticality. Okay, especially with these Hoka Onan owners. Let's get to a break. This show sucks. Justin Simmons will be rescheduling. Nice. Hey, was that in New York? Was that New York City where Gary Vee was playing? I don't know.

How are they doing that? Are places even open in New York at all to play, especially guys playing basketball? Or is that a couple years ago, maybe? Ooh. Because I didn't see any, right? Yeah. By the way, are we potentially...

I bet it's old. It doesn't go on the courts. It's old. I bet it's old. It doesn't go in the football field. I bet it's old, yeah. Because there was no... There was a lot of...

Yeah. A lot of those are getting lifted, though. April 6th in Indiana. Yeah. How about that? Why? I heard by the 4th of July may be small gatherings April 6th here in Indiana go ahead couple months ahead of time here in Indiana

are you saying for when I go to Easter Mass excuse me when I go to Easter Mass I could potentially potentially you guys can thank you Jesus for

being what everybody thought was a dead son of a bitch because an Italian killed you and then moving a moving a boulder which Alex Honnold could climb

if he had to moving it walking out of the cave and saying I'm back bitches and saying to everybody amen happy easter

because during covid no peace be with you and that's my favorite part yeah and also with you and also with you because people were saying that and it was just in an empty building and it was a zoom

and there was a tech glitch they're stepping on each other with the pieces yep peace be with you not this easter though we're back here in indiana easter yeah hey easter's april 4th though didn't you say that damn it what april 6th see We're stepping on each other with the pieces. Yep. Peace be with you. Not this Easter, though. We're back here in Indiana.

Hey, Easter's April 4th, though. Didn't you say that goes on April 6th? See, what a swore that Jesus came out of that cave late April. That's why it needs to be the same date every year. It varies. It varies. Yeah, it changes. I thought it was late April. Might have been a few years ago.

It could go anywhere from late March to late April. March? Oh, yeah. It's been getting earlier and earlier every year, it seems. Oh, because we need them earlier. You know what I mean? Yeah, exactly. Especially this year.

Hey, we're only a couple months in, but we need the... Help us out. I know you saw me once, but now I'm back, bitches. Can't thank you enough for choosing to listen to this shit You know You know We'll be back tomorrow with a feel good Friday Big guest tomorrow

Ain't that right Tyler? Oh huge guest tomorrow Kyle Rudolph great conversation Great conversation That really was Yeah T.Y. Hilton great conversation Unbelievable

The boys had a great day today Pretty good day Bugle boys had a good day today. Pretty good day. Bugle boys had a good day today. Can't thank you enough for listening to the show. Be a friend, tell a friend. We'll be back tomorrow with a feel-good Friday and big guests. Ty, please play some independent music and propel these people into a beautiful Thursday. Cheers. Thank you. សូវាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប� Thank you. Thank you. សូវាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប� Thank you.