The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 385 - The Return Of Dan Orlovsky, Justin Simmons, Tom Pelissero, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: March 31, 2021

On today's show, Pat and the boys chat about last night's Elite 8 games and look ahead to the Final Four and wonder if anyone has a chance to beat Gonzaga, plus they follow all the storylines from Florida's Pro Day, and what we learned yesterday about Mac Jones and Justin Fields. Joining the show for a first time in a long time is 12 year NFL veteran at QB, ESPN NFL Analyst, and friend of the program, Dan Orlovsky. Pat and Dan catch up a little bit and chat about the ban, plus Dan makes some waves with what he's heard from certain coaches about Justin Fields, and why he thinks Mac Jones is probably going to end up in San Francisco (24:27-50:08). Next, Pro Bowler, All-Pro, the highest paid safety in the NFL, Justin Simmons joins Pat and AJ Hawk to chat about what he thinks Denver needs to do to get over the hump, his thoughts on Drew Lock, how he prepares for games, doing incredible things in the community, and if he was close to playing Quarterback during the season for the Broncos when their QB's were out with Covid (50:10-1:11:36). Later, NFL Network Insider Tom Pelissero joins the program to chat about the league meetings, the 17 game season, what he's hearing from all the different Pro Days, and why he thinks Justin Fields draft stock dropped after the season ended (1:13:54-1:31:24). To close out the show, Pat and AJ also react to all the different things being said about Justin Fields, Mac Jones, and how some players adjust to live in the NFL being a job and not a game (1:31:26-1:52:38). Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow and listen every day on Mad Dog Radio, Sirius XM Channel 82. We appreciate you all for listening, come and laugh with us, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello, it is Wednesday, March 31st, 2021 years after the year that was deemed zero. That is correct. We did the math six years before zero. Allegedly, Jesus was born. I don't know. I'm pretty sure that is correct. So 1,995 or 6 years. Right. One of the two.

Post Jesus' death is currently where we're at right now. Bingo. He's coming out of the cave this weekend. Hope you enjoy yourselves there. We got a great show for you today. It really is a great show. Hey, today's show. I mean, whenever we were recording it, I said, this is going to cause some.

You're going to ruffle some feathers. Turns out it did. Now, we could have never expected it to go the way it did. But, man, we have some good conversations for you today. A lot of chitter-chatter about everything going on in the world. Can't thank you enough for allowing us to penetrate your ear holes. If you enjoy this show, by the end of it, please be a friend, tell a friend. If not, just act like it never, ever happened.

Ain't that right? Yeah, just piss off. Yeah. Just piss off. I think so. All right, let's get to it. I'm just telling you, somebody who had Jesus saves in their Twitter bio tweeted at me and said, Sir, it is not 2021 years after he was born.

It was after he died. Nah, that doesn't make any sense. But you have been acting as if you're this Irish. Still am. Irish Catholic. I still am. A guy that knows the entire Bible. Why would it be B.C. and then it goes to zero?

Doesn't that make any, it wouldn't be before Christ. Oh, because he was born and then it was like, oh, after death. any... It wouldn't be before Christ. Oh, because he was born and then it was like after death. Exactly. It wouldn't be before Christ. It is after death. Which is what we're in right now. We're researching back here. So apparently Jesus was born between the years 6 and 4 BC. Because you count

down going BC and then AD's up. He didn't die at age 6, so we know. We know he was born at 0. So 27 minus 2021. If we could potentially do some of those. Holy shit, is it 1997? 1,990, yeah.

That's years after Jesus had died. Yes. Welcome to the show. Here we are on Sirius XM, Channel 82, Mad Dog Sports Radio, and YouTube.com forward slash the Pat McAfee Show. Big day today. Let me tell you why. Obviously, the Elite Eight has concluded,

and now we have our final four college basketball teams competing for a national championship within a bubble of Indianapolis. And this would be a much more difficult win than any of the years in the past. These people have been locked down in a hotel in Indiana. I'm sure they've gotten a chance to go see the zoo. They were here at the zoo. They went over to the museums, and they went to a baseball field, and they did some other stuff.

But these guys have had to commit their lives to this particular game at this point, just like everybody else. So anybody that can get through the mental grueling test of not only the bubble but March Madness of itself to get to this point, I think we should be relatively impressed. Oh, yeah, big time. With that being said, there's only one fucking team that has a chance to win this thing,

and they are the greatest college basketball team to ever exist. Now, I did not watch a lot of college basketball. So a lot of people can immediately attack me for that. But if you're telling me that there's people that said the UNLV team from back in the day. I guess there was a Kentucky team from back in the day. These are a lot of the tweets that I was getting. I guess there has been great teams in the past. But have they literally cakewalked through an entire fucking season?

And I think they had zero COVID cases as well, so they all just kind of committed to this entire thing. Has any of those teams been able to do it? These dudes, immediately upon the game starting, it's over. It is immediately over. They run the most, it seems like, efficient offensive sets in the history of basketball. They have wide-open layups whenever they're playing against some of the best athletes of all time. Somehow, someway, the ball movement, that point guard Suggs or whatever, he's unbelievable.

I guess he's a freshman, they're saying. That guy's a freshman. Then you've got Big Timmy in there turning around, fadeaways making. It is a team that is unbelievable to watch. Their other stud, the shooting guard, the white guy, what's his name? He said the only thing he's bad at is video games. So this dude has been committed to the game and to athletics. It feels like they just have a team over there that is wildly mature.

They run a sophisticated offense. On defense, they hustle. The coach seems to be the most chill guy of all time. And they win every game by 20. Their closest game all season was by five. Shout out to West Virginia. Shout out West Virginia. I mean, that team, they had a chance.

Buddy fucking Boeheim. But anyways, this team is unbelievable. Greatest college basketball team of all time. I believe we're going to have a pretty good boost on FanDuel to kind of get behind this thing. But I enjoyed watching them play. I enjoy watching this Gonzaga team. And I'm not a big college

basketball fan. March Madness, I'm in. It captivates your life. You can gamble on it. You kind of, you know, you do this whole thing. And I watch every single year. But last night, I told my wife, we were sitting there, we started getting on our phones because it was like a, you know, 15 to 20 to 24 point lead. Sure. Basically

that entire game. And I was like, I actually put the phone down at one point and I was like, babe, we should watch this. It's the greatest fucking team of all time. Ever. You know what I mean? They only have a chance for two more games for us to watch them play. We should watch and enjoy this team. They are running basketball like

it's 1944. They are bounce passing. They are weaving. They are laying up. They are finger rolling. There it is. It makes it's fascinating to watch. They're going to win it all, but congrats to UCLA from the play-in game to the Final Four. First time

ever. And the fascinating thing about the UCLA team making it all the way is everybody knows we're having a $100,000 bracket bonanza. Of course. Okay, and a lot of people fell out quickly because the madness was at another level this March or whatever, and there was upsets galore. Evan Fox actually had UCLA slash Michigan State going all the way to the national championship

in his bracket the first time he filled it out. Then when UCLA beats Michigan State in January, February, Izzo gets officially retired. He doesn't even make it into the tournament. This UCLA team does out of nowhere. He changes his bracket.

Changes his bracket, getscla out of there losing first round or whatever if he would have just kept ucla slash michigan state in his bracket he's probably in the top 10 right now because of the upset points and everything like that so not only is this fantastic to watch a team that nobody had or given a chance to kind of come together and play and get some big wins and make to the final four congrats to the broods for doing all that but it's also pretty fantastic for the close friends of a guy in here because it is very apparent he potentially lost out on a hundred thousand fucking dollars because he was so sold on tom iso making a run so michigan state and tom iso not only provided Foxy with zero happiness,

zero team to root for in March Madness, but also now is potentially the reason why he lost out on $100,000. And I love everything about that. Yeah. Hell yeah. Thank you, Woods. I try to get cute. You can't get cute with the gambling gods.

Everyone knows that. He changed his bracket. Yeah. He submitted a bracket, went in, changed bracket, goes back out. I thought I was a genius, and you guys called me a scumbag for that move. Yeah, we did.

This is karma, pal. This is what happens. And me taking that $100,000 check from you would have been the greatest day of my life right there. Yeah, but instead, you won't. Not even close. You're not even close. You're like 30,000th or something like that. But I will say, very, very happy that Michigan lost

last night. Yeah, Michigan, Big Ten, not good for the Big Ten. Big Ten has had a team I think in the Final Four for a certain amount of years or whatever. The last team to do it was Michigan State, baby. But the thing about the Big Ten was going into the tournament, big hype. Hey, there might be seven of the eight. Elite eight team might be from the Big Ten was going into the tournament, big hype. Hey, there might be seven of the eight.

Yeah. Elite eight team might be from the Big Ten. The Big Ten was beating shit out of each other this year. Every team's good. Then it was just like, Don goes Ohio State. Don goes Iowa. Don goes, everybody just boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. Started getting slaughtered.

And they're like, we still got Michigan though. Let's fucking relax here. And the Pac-12 was like, nobody gave us a shot, and we're making runs right now. And then Michigan loses. It's almost like the entire Big Ten loses. It was nice to kind of see you guys rally around Michigan, because that's not really a normal move by the Big Ten folks over there in Iowa at Ty Schmidt. Yeah, I couldn't really give two shits if Michigan won last night, though.

I was pretty jacked up to see UCLA win. I mean, underdog going to the Final Four. I mean, we talked about it. Hey, listen, the Big Ten, they had to spend two weeks in Indy before everyone else even got here. Oh, yeah. So even that much more of a mental grind and all that kind of stuff. So it stinks, but what are you going to do?

Yeah, there's nothing you can do. At Boston Connor, that Gonzaga team, dude, there's people coming after me saying anytime I talk about anything other than football, it's cringe or whatever. It's like, okay, all right, enough with that because I have eyeballs and I watched the game last night. Exactly. Okay, I watched the game last night. I watch every other game that has happened, and I go, wow,

this team seems to be playing varsity basketball and everybody else is playing JV basketball. They said they haven't played anybody, though, and even this run, since the upsets happened, they've played higher-seeded people and all season they didn't play anybody. It's like, I don't think it would have mattered. I don't think it would have mattered at all. It's just like that Loyola Chicago squad.

I assume they don't play fucking anybody. Exactly. That's not their fault, by the way. There's much bigger pockets that are making those decisions amongst the schools. But that Gonzaga team is awesome to watch. It's a clinic. Yeah, it's unbelievable. It's not like they're squeezing by teams either.

They've won by like 43, 16, 17, 19. I think Gumby was there last night. Gumby, you went to that Gonzaga game last night. How was it? The USC never had a chance. They got dog walked from start to finish, started the game on a 7-0 run, never came back.

They just get bunnies literally inside the free throw line. It's absurd. Nobody wide open bunnies inside the free throw line, layups all night long. It was a waste of money. I mean, ridiculous. To be fair. But you supported something. Yeah, I mean, I obviously know me. I mean, ridiculous. Well, hey. To be fair. But you supported something.

Yeah, I mean, I obviously know me. I had to go. But should have went to Michigan, UCLA, hindsight. Yeah, that game was pretty late. I'm pretty pumped up that they did that whole thing. But the Gonzaga squad, whenever they – Timmy was flexing like three minutes into the game or something like that. And it was 23 to 8 at one point.

I mean, it was, it's going to be fun to watch. It seems like a very good bet, although you can't get any good money on that. I mean, even that ref was like, oh, shit. Oh, okay. Yeah, let's talk about it. Because of how good they were. What was his, Oscar? Burt Smith.

Burt Smith. Burt Smith. Was that his name? He took a horrendous fall. We should not be laughing like this no no no we should also do more research I guess that was

that was almost maybe I mean that was tough to watch they re-ran it brutal in slow motion and I just I happened to

yes it's Burt Smith I changed rooms so I went from one room to another I turned on it was on another channel okay TBS please why are Okay, TBS, please. Why are we at TBS? This is fucking Elite Eight. Let's at least get on the CBS.

Okay, but I'll go to TBS or whatever. I go over, and all of a sudden it was a quiet sound, and they're like, we'll be back on the other side while whoever's getting checked. And I sent a group text. I was like, what happened? Or whatever. Then Gumpy says, dude fell, passed out cold or whatever.

They talked about that. They show him getting stretched off. Game continues. I'm like, okay. Then them going back to it, coming out of the commercial break. Slow-mo, circle, watch this body hit the floor, basically. That thing comes back on and they're like,

zoom it, see what you're looking at here. That guy just completely stumbled and then his whole body goes them his head hit that wooden floor man so hard it was i was watching i'm like god damn like yeah that was in there like obviously we hope he's okay and i'm like i don't know like because the quarterback gets hit that's always what you're worried about whenever you hear about concussions it's always the head hitting the ground is almost like worse than the initial shot almost. Now, granted, I'm not saying head-to-head shots aren't the big deal, but players hitting the ground, especially with that old AstroTurf

that used to be there in the cement and all the thing, him hitting, you saw his head bounce and then go back up. I'm like, oh, my fuck, did that guy, his brain just moved inside of his head. Oh, yeah, oh my fuck. Did that guy his brain just moved inside of his head. His brain just moved. No, see Joe Burrow's entire head. I actually think his brain on that shot stayed

intact because his entire body. Joe Burrow's a tough son of a bitch. So is this guy, by the way. What's his name? Bert Smith. Bert Smith. His head hit the ground. So now you're trying to watch the game, but all you're thinking to yourself is, that guy might be in real trouble.

So then Gene Steratore comes in, gives an update. By the way, Gene Steratore is the man. He was the man, whatever he was, an NFL ref too. He came around the training camp. He's a Western Pennsylvania guy, Pittsburgh guy. He and I would talk to each other every single time I went on the field, whenever he was reffing the game, anytime we were around each other. I love Gene Sterritore. The game misses Gene Sterritore more than any of the other refs that you see

that have left. The game misses Gene Sterritore. Hockeyly, maybe hockeyly as well, but Gene Sterritore, outright dude. He gives an update like, he's okay they're checking on him then he said like the the waiting ref from the second game will also be the waiting ref now and there's a replacement so he broke down the entire process which was interesting to hear because i think there's a lot of refs that will never ref a game that are currently being bubbled for like four weeks and they're probably zooming with their friends and family yeah i might get a chance to ref tomorrow if what happens well if a guy passes out completely i'll go in after the next guy that

goes in so they had like people happening people on deck for this which is good now obviously there's more games earlier but then after the game um you know the the n NBA live crew. Is that the show? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Inside the NBA. TNT, yeah. TNT NBA show. The fucking great show. Yeah. The Charles, you know, Kenny the Jet. And then they got Andy Katz to replace Shaq on that show. Oh, okay.

Okay, for the college basketball one. So, you know, he's there with Ernie, who's one of the greatest hosts to ever exist. Kenny the Jet and Shaq, those three, those guys have been working together for like 25, 30 years. Long time. Then they got Katz just dropped in there for Shaq. He's kind of put into an interesting situation. I think the internet, by the way, was not very nice.

I think to Katz early, but I think Katz is maybe potentially finding his groove. He gives an update after the game. He's like, update. They have talked to Burt Smith. He's okay. He's like, update. They have talked to Bert Smith. He's okay. He's recovering. And he's not going to the hospital. He's going back to the hotel. And this was Kat's announcement. Charles Barkley immediately goes, he needs to go to the hospital. Charles Barkley said he needs to go to the hospital. Okay, so Ernie was like, I'm sure the doctors

were saying he was like, I'm sure the doctors, you know, were saying he was like, and Charles Barkley goes, yeah, sure, the guy just fainted, passed out, take him back to the hotel. Then they go into a commercial break. Back out the other side. Charles is not on set. Okay, so I mean, he was like, Charles just

get him out. No, he was in the fucking, the Capital One Charles lounger or whatever on the other side just continue to talk i mean it was just like that guy charles barkley such a fucking gem whenever it comes to just human beings oh yeah yeah take him back to the hotel just pass out on national television hit his fucking skull off the wood bounce up there just take him back to the hotel no big deal that was very because as soon as he, just take him back to the hotel, no big deal. That was very, because as soon as he said

he's going back to the hotel and not the hospital, my first thought was like, anytime somebody has a concussion, their first thought is, like, keep people around. Yeah. You need to have people around you.

Can't fall asleep. Yeah, like, keep people around them because you don't know what's going to happen because their brain just kind of moved in there. So I'm happy as soon as he said that, Chuck was like, he needs to go to the hospital. Yeah.

I don't know who's telling you this information. I don't know what doctors are talking in there. Get his fucking ass to the hospital, though. I hope he's okay, but that was a horrific scene last night. And when he was getting stretched out, you could tell that he was not going to the hospital because of how pissed off he was. He had arms crossed. He was fucking shaking his head like, son of a bitch.

Was he calling a good game? I don't remember. I don't think so. Yeah, I mean, at this point, Kim Zyder was already up 20. So I don't think it really mattered who was calling the game. Zito, what is the poll for today? Yep, today we have, we're down to the final four. Who's winning?

Okay. Last place right now, Houston, 7%. Hey, they run. Oh, yeah, and play good defense. Houston is a very, very, very athletic squad. Yep, and then we have Baylor 12%, UCLA 18%, and Gonzaga running away at 63%. Everybody else seen what we seen.

Everybody seen what we seen. They got eyes. I know. There's a couple people that have come on Twitter, you know, and tried to downplay how good Gonzaga is. Let me tell you, you just might as well not do it. They got high socks. They got Fu Manchus.

They got full sets. The team... That was real, though. Like, hey, we should watch this because I think this is potentially the greatest college basketball team of all time. I think I should have respected that earlier, but I don't think anybody thought they were potentially for real

until last game, Sweet 16 or whatever. Now it just seems like they're going to be able to toy with whoever the fuck they want. We want all in, okay, on the big wig in Loyola. Of course. All right, just because an icon, you know, showed up in March Madness in Loyola. I mean, just an absolute icon. A man who is, you know, as quick as a hiccup. You know what I mean?

He's got feet like a shorebird. That's right. Okay. And he has a mustache, and he just, you know, he was playing great defense. Had this little left. I mean, there's no way we're not going to immediately. You're drawn to it. Yeah.

But I guess this Gonzaga team is what we should have been hyping this entire time. The Fu Manchu, he's a guy, by the way. Oh, yes. Timmy's like a guy. Oh, yeah. He's also a very soft touch around the rim. But he's a fucking guy guy, too. And he wears a fucking headband.

They got it all. They have entertainment. And they've had no COVID cases. I mean, that's unbelievable in itself. The coach said that these guys really like each other. He has a much different vibe, that coach, than Mick Cronin. Oh, yeah. You bet.

I think I hate that guy. Mick Cronin. I think so. I like Mick Cronin. Oh, yeah. You bet. I think I hate that guy. Mick Cronin. Cronin. I think so. I like his dad. His dad's a 79-year-old guy. He's in the stands. Yeah. Punching.

Double hands up when they won. That was sweet. After they won the Elite Eight, you know, the line he said will always make me. Now, I don't think I hate him, okay? He's obviously taking this UCLA school from a play-in game to the Final Four. I don't know anything about him. But whenever he said, yeah, we got guys playing much bigger than they are or whatever, I'm like,

you could have easily said, like, the guys are playing what I always thought they could play. Reaching their full potential. Yeah, like I thought, instead of saying, you know, they're playing bigger than they are or whatever, I thought that was quite like a, you know, to your own players who just fucking had a massive win yeah and i don't know if you know this mick but your your dad's going crazy up there you should

think about a pretty good little moment here you know so i just i felt like that but he might be just like a hard that might be like his he might be like hey we're not no nonsense yeah so maybe i just maybe i don't understand that what What's going on, Gump? He's also setting himself up if they lose that we really overachieved and I did a great job coaching. Yeah, but the interesting thing about that, and I can respect always hustling and always CYA, every single thing you do.

Just like the NFL, whenever they announced or whenever they sent out their lobbying letter to the voters, basically, for the 17-game season, the first sentence is, as always, main thing is player health and safety. Of course. You know, it's just like a cover-your-ass situation right there early. Maybe that is what he's doing, but I think everybody on earth understands that if you're in a playing game and you make it this far,

you probably outperformed what anybody thought you should. Yeah, good call. But McCrudden's like, I've got to continue to cover this asterisk in case anybody wants to come after me. Almost kind of smart. Now that we've kind of talked about it, I'm almost coming around on the guy. I don't like that. Well, see, the only reason why I would potentially enjoy,

if he's always like that. Yeah. Like, you know, like if he's always just a dick. Like if he's just like a hard nose. He kind of is. Is that his style of coaching? Yeah, I mean, I think he, you know, his teams at like Cincinnati and everything, same deal, very rough-nosed and like kind of took after him. I think he is kind of just a prick.

Well, hey, that has been a coaching style for a long time. Yeah, exactly. I just want to say it's not necessarily the most enjoyable whenever you're a player on said team, but it gets the same results. There's lessons that are learned through the whole process, and there's different ways to do things. There's much different ways to do things. If that is his style, then it makes a lot of sense for him immediately after winning an Elite Eight game to go,

these kids stink, but today they played pretty good. Yeah, that Cincinnati team, I'm pretty sure, got in a fight with Xavier, and after the game, he sawed down everybody on his own team. I wonder if Mick is ever happy. Probably not, huh? Just a miserable basketball coach. Just won the Elite Eight.

You know, they were in the play-in game. This is awesome for UCLA. The whole thing's coming back, you know what I mean? He's like, no, fuck yeah. We ain't happy. Bullshit. Like, if they lose this, if they lose in the Final Four, is he going to be like, should have fucking won the whole thing.

I don't even know what we're doing. Probably, yeah. Is he ever happy? I often wonder that. Like, are you ever just like, woo? Like, is there ever a, look what we did. You know, I wonder that was, because like with Rich Rodriguez, for instance, he was a hard-nosed coach.

I think anybody who has ever played for Rich Rodriguez would say, yep, he was a no-nonsense. To the point of like, oh, this is not enjoyable in a lot of situations. This is a – there is a mission here. This is what we're going to do. But granted, most of the time it ends up happening, you know, but it's a much different thing. But I ever wondered, like, after, you know,

because he would give, after a game, we'd do a fight song, you know, and we'd do a whole thing, and he would give, like, hey, this is fun, right? There it is. This is fun, right? Yeah, yeah. You know what's fun?

Kicking somebody's ass. It was always immediately following the happiness it immediately got right back to like okay tomorrow by the way we're fucking i often wonder do those guys or girl and girls i'd assume there's a lot of female coaches that do the same thing i wonder if they ever have a moment where they're just like full-on like fucking look at us you know what i mean happy are they like that all the time or they are they like that all the time? Are they like that all the time? And boy, that must be a joy to be around on a regular basis. I mean, I would imagine he's going to have a nice little bonus waiting for him

or extension. I'm sure he'll be happy for that moment in time. But I think, I mean, it's probably right back to it. They've got to start recruiting, you know, right after the season's done. It never stops. UCLA making it back to the Final Four. What a great recruiting. Oh, yeah. Hey, we're in Los Angeles.

Go watch the admission scandal documentary and then let us know what you think about us allowing you to come to UCLA for a full scholarship to play basketball. You know what I mean? It's like USC should be doing the same exact thing by the way. Look at the admissions scandal.

There are people paying millions and millions of dollars just so their kids can show up in this particular university. Now you get a chance to play basketball here, and we're going to be good. But your life's going to be miserable because that's the way I coach. Pretty good little recruiting tool. Not a bad trade. Oh, yeah. We got a big-time guest.

What? Yeah. Right now? Come on. There's been something that has happened, okay, in this world that we are in. Oh, yeah? A show that started in a basement, okay, then in an office. You know, no rights, just need the internet, a couple microphones, here's the show.

Show started doing okay, we started doing some things, we started having a good time. Friends of the show would come on, have a good time, things would be good. Then there was a decision that was made, I think, I think hindsight, a regrettable decision was made. A mandate was created where people were told that they have known me for maybe 10 years, not allowed to have recorded conversations with us anymore. That was a mandate. Can't do it. Interesting.

Then, obviously, with the backlash because the people that listen and watch this show are the greatest humans of all time, that mandate got changed. Hey, we need to work on some stuff. We apologize, blah, blah, blah. We apologize, you apologize. So I decided in return to, okay, you want to ban. I ban you.

You don't ban me. No, I ban you. You like that? So I've been banning friends of mine, dear friends of mine. Oh, yeah. People I enjoy talking to. I told them, I don't want to fucking talk to you

No way But at some point I had to relinquish that ban And I think now is the perfect time to do it Ladies and gentlemen Back on the show For the first time in a long time To give us innovative knowledge

On the quarterback position, Dan Oshlovsky. Whoa! Oh, shit! It's Bowser! Dan, are you anonymous? What's up, boys? Oh, yeah!

Great to have you back. Yeah! Great to have you back. Man, I sent you DMs To try to get back on I sent you NDMs Non-direct messages

I sent you SM Subliminal messages I'm finally back Well I want to let you know Dane We

Are thankful to have you back I did miss you out there Yeah I thought The anonymous Bowser Would have been nice there Yeah Shout out Mario Kart By the way.

Dan, it's great to have you back, man. We have missed you over here. We have missed you. Great to be back. Great to be back, bud. We have missed you. Great to be back. The arms look great.

Thank you. The gut, though, you know, I still got. You'll get it. You'll get it. You'll get rid of it. Yeah, we need some work done. I'm fasting. It's terrible.

It's great to see you again, Dan. How's life, man? How's it been? I saw NFL Live's ratings went down since you haven't been on the show, but we'll bring those right back up and your Twitter's crushing. How have you been over there, Dan? Well, good to be back. Joking, I'm joking.

I've been great, bud. I've been great. Very much so enjoying the weather change here in Connecticut and kids' sports have picked up. I've been great, bud. I've been great. You know, very much so enjoying the weather change here in Connecticut and kids' sports have picked up. You know, I've got 100 of them. I saw a very large American Express expense came across mine for the brand. So I'm excited to see when that comes in. Hey, thanks for the support, by the way.

Thank you, Dan. Thank you, Dan. And, by the way, I want to let you know, NFL Lives ratings only go up because you're on there. And the reason why I finally, and I'm a very stubborn person, one of the most stubborn people of all time. The reason why I had to get rid of the ban, and I'm thanking you for coming on the show today after, you know, what had happened was, you see, the videos that you did on Matt Jones and Justin Fields were fantastic work I think honestly it was unbelievable and I want to talk to you about it with the quarterback kind of prospect situation going on right now right with names coming out of nowhere this might be your Super Bowl like is this your Super Bowl right now and do you even

realize that this is your Super Bowl right now yeah Yeah, I mean, I think I have like I was talking to someone about it today. Like I had two really moments, I guess, during the kind of calendar year or at least the football calendar year that really are huge for me. And that's kind of the as we enter into the playoffs time frame of like what teams are actually going to are equipped to go do something. frame of like what teams are actually going to are equipped to go do something and then the the nfl draft when it comes to these quarterbacks because i have been very outspoken like because everyone calls the nfl draft a crap shoot so to speak when it comes to quarterbacks and i completely disagree with that i just think people don't know what they're looking for when they're drafting quarterbacks and so um i try to stand out in that aspect we have a graphic actually on this on the first round quarterbacks. We were going to break this down because people do say that it is a crap shoot.

And I think that's because the alarming amount of first round quarterbacks that end up not making it. So it's like since 2010, OK, there's been 18 quarterbacks out of 34 drafted that were traded up for. Twelve of the 18 are already off of the team they've been cut or whatever then if you go to the next slide or whatever like that's how many people are still in the there is a lot of misses and we're going to break this down at some point whenever there's absolutely no news which is kind of today probably tomorrow if i had to guess but the names on there that were supposed to be franchise changers the the draft hey we got our quarterback in the first round we got a guy we got a guy there's a lot more fails than there is like

success stories there's a lot of bad fucking football that gets drafted a quarterback in the first round or whatever what's that three reasons why in my opinion okay why that first of all great graphic three reasons why i think great team dirty oh boy look at quarterbacks the same way they look at every other position i mean you know this like if i'm taking a wide receiver with the second pick his physical attributes have to be the number one importance to me like he's got to be a certain size and speed and strength if i'm taking a defensive end he's got to be a certain size, speed, and strength. That has to be the physical has to be the most important thing.

That's not the case for quarterbacks. The physical matters, but it's the second most important attribute. The most important attribute is the mental, is the emotional, is the leadership. That will always be the most important attribute at quarterback. I think so many teams just look at quarterback the same way they look at every other position. The second thing is teams are constantly looking at things that guys can do. Listen, most franchise quarterbacks don't not make it because they don't have the talent to. Like every guy that got drafted had the had the talent

to go do it most guys fail because they have a flaw or two flaws that teams like never pay attention to and never coach out of them like that's the reality of it and they don't ever teams don't do enough of a good a good enough job of being like, okay, his issue is this. Can we get past that? And then the reality is that I don't think there's a lot of great quarterback coaching in the NFL and development in the NFL. And that's why kind of the flaw and the development make guys failures. Okay, so you said a lot there, and I think those were very fascinating answers. Let's hit on each of them there as we go

on. The leadership thing though is the biggest for me because you said that that's a big deal because if you're a quarterback, you're immediately the leader of the team. It does not matter how old you are. You're touching the ball every single play. You're going to get paid the most amount of money. You're going to be answering the most amount of questions. By the way, you are immediately the leader of the team do you think that's why the Mac Jones Devante Smith thing happened at the pro day the other day where Mac Jones talked Devante Smith into running routes uh for and play football with him and that's why you think it was such a big deal because yesterday if we watched some of the Mac Jones balls they were terrible

then we watched some of them they were very good and then we talked to Ian Rappaport, who was down there, and he was like the big thing he was hearing was that Mac Jones talked Devontae Smith into running routes when he wasn't going to do anything. That's kind of how he interacted with the equipment managers. Is that what's going on down there? And is that a big deal? Is that why you love Mac Jones too? Is that one of the reasons why you love him?

Well, I think the reality is that you've got to be the CEO of a billion-dollar company. I'm not asking you to just be my franchise quarterback for this year. I'm drafting you to be – I just saw my name is actually Dan Orsoffi. I'm not just drafting you to be my quarterback this year. You've got to be the CEO of of the billion dollar company and ceo's got to be really good when things are really good and ceo's got to be better when things are bad and things are difficult and things are challenging that's the life of the nfl you're going to go through stretches where you stink your team stink your coach gets fired or

your defense gives up 35 a game like and the ability to handle that is, like, such an underrated value. I've always said this about, like, listen, Eli Manning, right? Eli Manning was never, like, the physical talent that was going to wow you. But what he did better than any quarterback maybe in the history of New York City was, like, he just did not care. Like, he cared enough about his role that he didn't care what anybody else said and um he looked at his job playing quarterback like the president like he's 24 7 365 man and that's a something that mac jones is is that's a strength no doubt okay so whenever

you're ranking these quarterbacks and you see like for instance tom pelissero to your point of what you're talking about there with the leadership tom pelissero i asked him why justin fields was that and you saw i assume you saw my tweet last night he was the definitive number two in this draft class for a long time i asked tom pelissero about that he said once he transferred from georgia ohio state there was reports that he didn't want to be friends with his teammates he just wanted to win the starting job didn't go to his birthday party that's what it sounded like with tom is that why justin fields has dropped down or why do you think zach and mac and trey i think even on some people's list is going above justin fields especially after he looked yesterday like he was he was yoked up yesterday i think yeah i mean so i saw the the whole thing like they want to know

if he could read defenses right people who say he can't get off number one don't once they say that stop listening to them um i think that the justin fields thing and because i've made a couple calls about this like why justin fields why is he falling this and that and i can just share these are not my opinions these are the things that have shared been shared with me okay um one i have heard that he is a last guy in first guy out type of quarterback like not the maniacal work ethic i've even heard it compared to justin herbert where it was like dude when justin herbert showed up it was like a psychopath when it came to working to get ready for the draft or or even at school like give me more i want to work non-stop and i've heard that there are some questions with justin

field's work ethic okay and then the second thing is like um how how like how do i phrase this the right way like how where is his desire to go be a great quarterback um i think that there's a desire to be a big time athlete um from what is expressed in you where is his desire to go be a great quarterback and to be great you've got to be willing to find the things that you're not not good at and just freaking grind on who's telling you this stuff pretty high up people yeah yeah people that are going to be at least um associated with decision making that's fat because they who they're getting that information from somebody within ohio state right who's telling that and it's like okay who's who's leaking that information how's that whole thing go because i mean it's that is if he's the last one in, first one out, I mean, now, granted, there's been research about how you utilize your time better and maybe paralysis by analysis.

But in the NFL, that's not a real thing, especially at the quarterback position, because there's always more. There's always, like in the quarterback position, there's another situation you can learn. There's another route concept. There's always, and I think that's what you're referring to there. To be a quarterback in the NFL, it is a full-time commitment. Yeah, it's the president, man. It's 24-7, 365. And you mentioned Trey Lance.

Everything I've heard about Trey Lance, everyone says the complete opposite. Like, this kid lives, eats, sleeps, breathes, drinks, whatever it is. Like, it's football all the time. Like, he's got, like, whatever that it is when it comes to that character, he's got it. And teams love that. You know what's interesting is because next to nobody actually sees Trey Lance. Yeah.

You know what I mean? A lot of people see Justin Fields. So I think somebody called into the show. Trainer. A trainer. An equipment manager. Yeah, yeah. It was either an equipment manager or a trainer from North Dakota State

who called into the show and was like, I just need to say that Trey Lance is the hardest-working, nicest guy of all time or whatever. You know, like that's very important stuff. But can he play football? Fields is a ball. You know what I mean? It's like you hope you get that whole thing.

What's going to happen in this draft, Dan? You think there's going to be more trades? You think people are going to move? How do you think this plays out? Yeah, I mean, dude, I think this. I think Trevor's obviously locked in at one. I think the Jets take Zach. Well, I think Sam Darnold will get traded sometime soon.

I mean, the next two weeks. Dan, they lost all their leverage with Sam Darnold. If they had the number two overall pick, they didn't know that they were going to take a quarterback at that time? Because don't you try to trade him earlier whenever that market was like a robust one as opposed to now everybody knows they're kind of out on Darnold?

Well, I think that they were still in the decision-making process. I've said this about the Jets. Robert Sala had the opportunity to go anywhere he wanted when it came to NFL head coaching opportunities, right and he chose the jets and the i believe one of the reasons he chose the jets was because of sam donald because those coaches and that coaching staff had not done their work on the college quarterbacks they weren't sitting there going the jets got the second pick and there's going to be zach wilson like let's be Zach Wilson. Let's go there because we're going to take him. I think that they were still

trying to figure out where they were as an organization. Were they going to keep Sam? Were they going to trade the pick? I do think that they're going to take Zach Wilson and I think that Sam gets traded in the next two weeks because, dude, Pat, there's still so many needy teams though because the reality is Denver wants a guy

but can they go up high enough the reality is denver wants a guy but they're but can they go up high enough to get them um carolina wants the guy are they going to be able to go high enough and get them chicago needs a guy are they going to be able to go high enough and get them pittsburgh probably needs somebody tampa bay might be interested because they don't need anybody um and so i i think that that that that happen, and that'll have a ripple effect. I could see Atlanta taking a quarterback. I could see, because three's going to take a quarterback, obviously. I could see the Bengals trading out in Carolina, Denver.

Hold on. Hey, let's talk about that. You said three's going to take a quarterback, obviously. The 49ers traded up there. Everybody assumed you only trade up there and give up all that they gave up to get a quarterback. That's why they're're doing it then Jimmy G is still in their plans or not trade him away it might be a redshirt year for whoever they draft blah blah blah then Kyle Shanahan came out this morning and said Chris Sims I don't talk to Chris Sims Chris Sims Chris

Sims said they had already made up their decision or whatever uh and what they're going to do who they're going to put out there and I think those two are like really tight friends or whatever so who knows how that whole thing goes. But who do you think they take? Do you think that is Mac Jones' gig to lose there at three? I do. You do, yeah. Yeah, I think it's Mac Jones or Trey Lance.

That's what I think. I think Kyle loves Mac Jones. I think that when I was with Kyle, Kyle used to say two things stood out for him when it came to the physical aspect of quarterback play. One, natural throwing motion. And then two, like he wanted you to have this upper body torque as a thrower because your feet are always so much in chaos and you can't get them set. Like, and he was just this big believer in that. I don't know if you've ever seen him do that drill where like, remember those, those bags that football that football players like the you put them next to each other and that's the lane you could run through for a tackling drill like he's always got guys working on it you've probably seen rogers

do it um i i and just that's mac jones and i think that he loves mac jones i do think that the the organization is probably intrigued by the physical talent of Trey Lance. And so my guess is that they feel really good about both of them. Who wins out in that kind of power struggle with the 49ers, we'll find out. Man, Jimmy G's a shittner. All right. Tom Brady. But I think if they take Mac Jones, Jimmy G is gone. Gone.

If they take Trey Lance I can see Jimmy G Staying there for a little bit Even if it's like a mid-season Trade type of thing Connor what do you have? Yeah Dan because of those first three picks being locks For quarterbacks and then a few other teams Needing them

Aside from Detroit and Denver Do you see like New England jumping up into the top 10 You mentioned the Buccaneers Do you see them trading up into the top 10 Or You mentioned the Buccaneers. Do you see them trading up into the top 10, or will they try and wait and let the draft come to them? No, I can see New England being aggressive. Tampa, I don't think, has the necessity to. I don't think they need to.

But I think New England was abnormally aggressive in free agency. We all know that, right? Normally, New England falls back in the draft. Normally, they're willing to fall back. And they're probably looking at it, and Bill's probably looking at it going, I'm never going to be at 15 again. Or certainly, I don't want to be at 15 for a long time ever again. I'm usually picking at, like, 27, 28, 29, 30. Like, maybe they'll be willing to jump up and go get a guy.

Now, the caveat is this. Oh, caveat. I don't see them being super aggressive for Justin Fields. I don't. I see them being aggressive if a freelance fell. Did you do what people are saying

there? You said that you heard from people. Now, I guess that the information you're getting from people that are decision-makers in the NFL is probably shaping your opinion as well because if multiple people are telling you things, that's probably how you're getting it. The Justin Fields, you're out on Justin Fields, huh, from what you've heard?

No, I'm not. But you think the NFL is. You think a lot of people in the NFL are. I think that there's people, you know, concerned about that stuff. You know, like I think there's people that are concerned about it. I'm excited because I know RC, Ryan Clark, you know, loves him. And I'm excited to have that conversation on TV about him, about that, because he knows him way more than I do.

I know this. I called this game against Michigan State this year, dude, and they were decimated by COVID. The whole football team had COVID. And I just remember going to the game and being like, all right, Fields, if you're as good as people say you are, like figure out a way, you know, like you got to be special. And he was freaking unbelievable.

And I was, I walked away being like, yo, this dude's good. So I'm not out on Fields at all. I think that I'd say the two things about Justin Fields that teams have to ask themselves, the flaw, The issue is he's deliberate. He's deliberate with his decision-making and kind of where he's going to go with the football. And his throwing motion I don't love. It's unnatural.

Really? Yeah. So, like, when you see my throw, you think just a natural throwing motion. All right. Here, perfect, perfect. Throw and go a little bit of a slow-mo, and I'm going to show you the difference. Let me see it here, Bob. Let me see it.

This is a big moment for you here. No, it's not. I got fucking film, dude. Okay. Just because you got film doesn't mean it's good film, you know? Oh, it is. Thanksgiving. Perfect passer rating on Thanksgiving.

I don't know if you've ever seen it. Just throw the – Against Pittsburgh Steelers, dude. Legendary defense. Great defense. They were in punt safe, by the way. Safety over top. Threw it to a spot.

Swope goes and gets it. How about that, Dave? On the run, by the way. My feet were not set. There was a lot of torque. You know what I mean? There was a lot of torque. See that torque?

See that torque? You might be the third pick. What? What? All right, give me your throwing motion. All right. Do you want me to do one, like, slow? Just somewhat slow.

Somewhat slow. And I'll tell you to freeze. Okay, So I'm going bang. Okay. Freeze. All right. So see where the ball in your elbow are ball on top of elbow. That's natural. That's like relatively natural. Now flip those positions. Fucking knew it, dude. What's that? Flip those positions. Flip those positions. Nope. What's that? Flip those positions. Flip those positions. Nope. You were here. Now flip this. That's unnatural.

And that's long. And that's deliberate. Oh, so... Yeah. I'm from Pittsburgh, though. My dad graduated. Dan Marina. You know I'm going to have a fucking quick release. Let's not play any of these games, Dan. What are you talking about, dude?

Come on. Is that real? Is that real? That's how – so that's what people do, I guess. Because you also – Andrew Luck had like a – he had like a – almost like a bold action. Like he had a – Andrew had a big C, right? Like he made a big C. That's okay. You don't want to make that.

Tebow. Vic, I feel like. Vic used to – I mean, Vic would be like – Yeah. Do you remember when he had that? What was that? The – The Nerf shot.

The Nerf ball. He threw the Nerf ball out of the – Oh, yeah. The vortex. Yeah, the vortex. There it is. Ty, what do you have? Dan, you mentioned I think last week on Get Up that you thought the Eagles

might be in play now moving up to the number six pick to get Russell Wilson. Do you think he's potentially going to get moved on draft night still? I think there's a chance for it, man. Like, here's the thing with my thoughts on Philly. They sniffed around Deshaun Watson, right? So, if you're sniffing around Deshaun Watson, you're certainly going to sniff around Russell Wilson, right? And everyone continues to not close it.

And my thing with Russell is I don't think it's that much tied to football. Like I think it's I want to go to a bigger market, and I want to go be the Magic Johnson of the NFL, and I want to go build this big brand, and I'm tired of being out in the Pacific Northwest. And so I've been adamant, like, if that's how he feels, one more season in Seattle is not going to change kind of those feelings. And I think Seattle's just trying to figure out if they love one of these

young quarterbacks and go, okay, then we're ready. They just paid Tyler Lockett $69.2 million. That should make Russell happy. I'll be excited to see. But also there's allegedly, you know, him storming out of offensive meetings and, you know, let Russ cook, philosophical differences. So not only maybe is he thinking, like, I would like to go to a bigger market, this would be cool, and maybe everything like that.

It seems like also football-wise there's potential, a little bit of beef, but they could get over that. And Trent Dilford told us that if the quarterback and head coach get along, he's almost more freaked out. Like if they're too chummy, it's almost more freaked out because he thinks that quarterback and head coach, you have to have two real alphas who potentially have a little bit of an energy with each other.

He always thought, I think what he said was he always thought Pete Carroll and Russ was always kind of a little, he didn't really make a lot of sense to him. Do you believe that? Yeah, I kind of agree with that. I think that, listen, the relationship is of paramount importance. Like you can't be successful and not at least get along. But at the end of the day, like, do you guys share the same vision? Are you willing to do whatever it takes to go accomplish that vision?

I think is a big deal, you know? And so there's got to be that common respect and that common kind of belief of the process, the way to go things. But I don't think you need to be boys. No, I actually think it's a negative. You're my coach. Like, at the end of the day, I need you to coach me. I've got enough friends. I don't need you to be boys. No, I actually think it's negative. You're my coach. At the end of the day, I need you to coach me. I've got enough friends. I don't need you to be my boy. Yeah, and if you fuck up, I would like to go in the

locker room and say, yeah, this guy is fucking up. I don't want to be a part of potential people saying, that is a real thing, though, too. There has to be some sort of... Now, it was interesting in Indy because Chuck loved Luck. And Luck, I think Luck loved Chuck as well.

But that's defensive coach. I don't know, but Pete Carroll's the same kind of way. I don't know. It's kind of weird. Carson and Frank now. Hey, Carson and Frank love each other. You did see Carson's interview. We didn't get a chance to chat with you about it. That was your guy. That was your guy. Yeah, I thought the interview was fantastic.

I texted you. I thought you kind of showed him a side of his personality that kind of hadn't been seen before. Even my wife had said that. Wow. No, it was great, man. Let's go. I thought it was really good. I thought he opened up.

You got him to be kind of a little bit different part, but you got to – it was telling to kind of hear him talk about, you know, some of the things that he felt weren't great in Philly and how excited he was to kind of get some of those missing pieces in Indy. He's starting to post on social now. Yeah. He's, like, becoming active. Like, okay, Carson's back.

He might be MVP. What are you talking about on NFL Live today? Anything good? I don't know. I've got to go to my production meeting right now, actually. So we'll probably talk Kyle Pitts, a little Jamar Chase. 4'4", 6'6", 250. Jeez. Jeez.

Yeah. He's good. Yeah. I got three white sons. What do you think I'm going to tell them about that one? Hey, boys, you're never going to be 6'5", 250, running 4'4". I don't think it's just because they're white. I think it's because you're their dad.

Ladies and gentlemen, Dan Orlowski. Thank you, Dan. i don't think it's just because they're white i think it's because you're their dad thank you dad didn't fix it did i you look good you look good perfect you look good i'm not even on here today yeah right now you're in it man that looks good. It'll take a couple seconds. You got to get the thing up in the corner up there. MP4. It'll go away in a couple seconds. It'll go away. Yeah, that's good.

Hey, maybe we should go to 60 frames, huh? All right. Turn your head to the side. Can you turn your head to the side? Oh, yeah. Oh, my God. I hear you guys laughing in the back. It's all right.

We'll be okay. Yeah, you're okay. Joining us now is a man who might be able to fix this laughing in the back. It's all right. We'll be okay. Yeah, you're okay. Joining us now is a man who might be able to fix this, by the way. He seems like maybe one of the most giving and caring humans that has ever graced the NFL or the earth. He just became the highest paid safety in the NFL's history. Congratulations on the bag. NFL's history. Congratulations on the bag. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, 2016 third round pick for the Denver Broncos out of Boston College, Justin Simmons. How are you, man?

Oh, no. Something's going on today, man. See, I messed my camera up. Oh, it's not us. It's not us. Are you muted right now, Justin? I'm muted. It wasn't us. It wasn't us.

I'm still trying to figure this thing out. But I was saying, thank you so much for the introduction, man. I appreciate you just having me on. Hey, no problem. Thank you for joining us. As I was doing some research after you signed this mega a mega deal congratulations you deserve it we did some research on you the only thing we could find is that you're just like such a giving dude and a charitable dude so congratulations on

that i think karma is a real thing it seems like it's paying off over there. That nice house behind you, it looks like. Yeah, my daughter is causing havoc inside the house right now. So unless we wanted to get interrupted every, you know, two or three minutes, it was just best to come outside and just have a chat. Well, it's good masonry there. I mean, it really looks like it has been put together well. In a house that's made of brick and stone, a home that's made of love alone. It seems like you guys got it all over there at the Simmons household. Justin, let's talk about it.

Go back to Denver here. You sign a deal. The Broncos have been an interesting conversation piece this offseason because Drew Locke quarterback, team seems to be good. Vaughn Miller's coming back. What is the thought? You guys think you're like one, two pieces away from really making a run. Is it the thought that you have a team to go right now?

Where are you guys at mentally, you think, in the whole process of this thing? Yeah, honestly, right now it's thinking we have the team right now ready to go. And whoever we add, a couple pieces here and there in the draft, getting ready for those guys to come in and contribute right off rip. We feel like we have a really good chance here to make something special happen. Like you said, having all the guys coming back and Drew entering, really it's going to be, I know it's his third season, but really it would be like his second,

finally having a full season under his belt and things like that um man i'm just i'm just excited what's it like practice against drew a lot we we see him on tv when he's playing well he's having fun he's dancing like we're big fans like i think he's a guy it's easy to root for you want him to play well it's good for the nfl what is it like going against him every day yeah well pat was pat i thought pat was doing a great job you know simulating some of the dance yeah those are was pat i thought pat was doing a great job you know simulating some of the dance moves yeah those are pretty solid i think drew would be proud thank you i'm trying to remember the gift of him but it's great it's great you know i'm so outspoken about drew because i've seen it you know going up against it in practice and you know seeing the swagger

seeing the confidence that he plays with and um everyone knows man there's a big learning curve that you know, that comes with the position, especially at the quarterback position of playing in the NFL. And so I've always been a Drew fan since day one. And I'm just really looking forward to seeing, you know, what he does. I know there's been talks about competition coming in, you know, a veteran quarterback, this, that, and the other.

And so I'm just excited, man, for Drew. I really feel like this is going to be a really good season for him. This isn't your world to talk about or give opinions, but I'll tie it back to Drew Locke. So right now there's allegedly what's happening with Justin Fields coming out of Ohio State is there's a rumor or some people have said in decision-making places that he's not like the first one in, last one out. He's not like this whole narrative potentially about his leadership

is being questioned or whatever by front offices. Allegedly, it's not us saying it. This is allegedly what's happening. At the quarterback position, and A.J. has said this, and I've said this, and I think anybody in the NFL, it is imperative that your quarterback is like one of your best guys don't you agree oh yeah 100 especially especially at that level you know coming in as a rookie um you know with guys like Aqib and Chris Harris and TJ and Darian Stewart you know Robe you know the whole no-fly

zone um that was when Peyton had just retired and just getting an insight from them about like what it takes to be great. Right. Like what, what is, what is needed, what is demanded of your team to be great. And they were kind of going over the type of leader that Peyton was and what it looks like. And, um, just everything that you, that you were mentioning. And, um, you know, obviously, like you said, I know you weren't asking for my opinion. I know that, um, you know, things like that looked way different for every organization, right. Not just Denver, um, I know you weren't asking for my opinion. I know that, you know, things like that looked way different for every organization, right? Not just Denver, you know, last year with the pandemic and cutting back hours in the facility and things in that nature and all that stuff. So, like I said,

I heard from, you know, a bunch of guys, Cortland, Tim Patrick, you know, Jerry, a bunch of guys that have been working with Drew that they've loved his dedication focus and and his work ethic this offseason so far I didn't even think about that by the way with COVID like first last one in first maybe that's what maybe he wasn't allowed to go wow whoa whoa sorry about that that was a great point AJ what do you have hey I know you guys got uh you brought in uh Kyle Fuller and Ronald Darby there for that defense Like what are they going to allow you to do more of you think? Oh, man, i'm so excited to play with those guys. I've just been big fans from afar

I think you know just looking at kyle fuller, right a guy that's already been in big fan geo system You know, it was first team all pro pro bowl selection Uh, I mean a guy that just and and just in general his career has just been amazing to watch and so getting to work with him i think it's just going to elevate my knowledge of the defense right he's he's obviously played with you know eddie jackson adrian amos you know a couple other really good safeties and so i'm going to be able to pick his brain like you know what was successful what wasn't successful you know what are some things i could do better communication wise on field wise um those are the conversations i'm looking forward to to having with him and then you know darby's

just a a beast i know he's had some injuries but i mean you look at the production that he had last year with the redskins and what they were able to do in their passing justin they're passing justin the washington football team oh i, I said. Yeah. Geez. They're trying to sell merch. Cover your ears. Cover your ears. I still say the.

Oakland. Instead of Las Vegas, I still say Oakland. I still say San Diego. So, y'all, you have to forgive me. By the way, us too. That's why I stopped you because you were going to get killed on the internet. So I had to do it before everybody else did. They come after me all the time for that. Hey, Pat, you're a real one looking out for me.

Hey, I'm trying to get this. I just wanted to get you clear there. I just wanted to get you clear. Hey, you're a real one. But, no, I mean, seeing what Darby did with the Washington football team was just, I mean, watching him play, going up against number one receivers. I don't know the stats exactly. I know he was up there and passed breakups, you know, individually for him.

And so getting ready to work with him, man, I'm just excited. I think, you know, and then Bryce Callahan at the nickel position. We obviously got Kareem back. I'm just excited. Really high expectations. You're a big film guy. You watch other people's film, watch yourself, watch schemes. What do you do? Is it just a combination of all of it how do you know about the like

it seems like you've watched maybe film on these guys is that throughout the year do you watch other people to kind of better your game do you watch yourself what's your process yeah um it's it's all encompassing i would say most of the time during the season i don't spend too much time varying off of the film that you that we watch in terms of who we're playing. But there will be times where I'll see a team that may play what I consider a great passing offensive team. And I'll just be like, well, I want to see what they did in order to hold what I think is a dynamic offense to maybe so few passing yards or so few points. And I'll check out film here and there from guys like that. And obviously, you know, Vic Fangio's defense, you know,

the year right before he became the head coach at Denver was, I mean, I watched that defense religiously, especially when, you know, Vic Fangio was, you know, selected as our head coach, went back, watched all that Bears film. That's how, you know, kind of got in the field for Kyle Fuller. But Darby last year, you know, watching the Washington football team, just watching them play and watching them compete. And obviously, you know, they fought for that playoff spot

and just watched a bunch of films. So it's all encompassing. You know, you kind of learn from the vets that you've been around. And so, you know, Aqib, TJ, Darian, I mean, especially Chris, like those guys were film junkies. And so learning from them was a blessing. Yeah, that's a part of that whole, you know, last one in, first one out thing. It's like I think at every position, every single position, no matter what,

even at long snapper, if they're not passionate about getting better or committed to getting better, there's a good chance they're going to get left behind in the NFL. It's just like you have the best athletes in the world right here. He just broke down seven different pieces of film he dissected and watched religiously, and then you've got some guys that are like, well, I can just come out here and make it on here. It's like, you can't. And you won't. And that's just not how the men's league is.

What do you have, Connor? Yeah, Justin, the Broncos had the COVID car wash airport security type thing that you would walk through and you'd get sprayed with. Are you guys going to have that next season? And after you walk through that thing, are you guys ready to go and feel safer to play? Are you guys hugging after that? Is it a big hug? What's going on? Yeah, right.

You think you feel safe. Honestly, I don't. That's a great question. I actually don't know. I heard. I saw a bunch of like, you know, everyone sees something on social media and they go, everyone has an opinion about what's going on. But I saw a bunch of opinions saying how it wasn't necessarily the safest thing.

And after maybe the first couple of days at training camp, we never saw that. We never saw it again. It'd be interesting to see if that's something that we bring back. I mean, who knows what's going on, right? Vaccines or what's going on there. That's a really good question. I honestly forgot all about that. I love the fact that you just go,

you know, there's people saying, people react to stuff, that that necessarily wasn't a good thing that we were doing. Were you guys getting drenched by these things? Was it uncomfortable for thing that we were doing? Were you guys getting drenched by these things? Was it uncomfortable for the first two days? No, it honestly wasn't that bad, which is why I didn't think twice about it.

You just walk. You're walking out of your locker room onto the field, and when you do, it's like the – I know everyone's probably seen them now, but I think it's, those I think it's like the electrical, you know, sprays wipe down seats with and stuff. Yeah. Yeah. It almost was like that. Kind of just like a light, just like a light layover of, you know, all the germs and disinfectant of what's going on. And then you just go out to the field. What did last year suck? Huh? Did it did it with the Zooms and the COVID potentials and everything like that. Now, granted, you seem like maybe the most upbeat human of all time and everything like that.

But last year was definitely a challenge, right? You don't think like last year, you think teams are going to look vastly different than how they looked last year? Do you think there were some teams that handled it much, much better than other teams? And that was just kind of like the way the game was last year? Oh, for sure. Yeah, last year, I mean, to answer your question, like last year was awful.

I mean, just being first four years in the league, you know, experiencing the NFL for what it is. And then having, you know, my fifth season, you know, no fans fans limited fans if there were any um i mean the traveling you know rules and and all these you know all things to keep us safe right but just like nagging and it's just so much stuff you got to pay attention to and i can only imagine like that was my that was my fifth season i can only imagine coming in as a second year guy a rookie and you know you're just your head's already cut off like you know shaking with your head cut off running around trying to figure this thing out and then all of a sudden you know you're being asked to do x y and z for covid protocols and go above and be

oh it's just last year was a last year was just it was tough but once again thankful that we were able to play that was the biggest thing that's what i was about to say we appreciate you guys you know i mean we got to kind of talk about that whole thing who's uh you have obviously That was the biggest thing. That's what I was about to say. We appreciate you guys. Thank you. You know what I mean? We got to kind of talk about that whole thing. You have, obviously, Patrick Mahomes in your division. What is that? The evolution of that, because you're four years, fifth year, you've kind of got a chance to kind of see this entire thing.

And I believe his first game he played when Alex Smith was the quarterback was against the Broncos in Denver. It was a week 17, 16th game. And I think that was when they potentially made the decision like okay we can get this guy who's played the best football he's ever played the hell out of here let's send him to the Washington football team okay we'll send him we'll send him to the Washington football team and then this is going to be the guy that seemed like a wild decision at the time but how has it been kind of watching what the Chiefs have done especially as a defensive guy who has to face them they're loaded I'm not saying you guys aren't obviously but that team in the division a big bad wolf at the moment in the entire AFC they they are loaded

Patrick Wilhelm seems to be able to do everything what has it been like to kind of watch that over the last few years? Oh, man, it's been tough, you know, as a as a as like in division rival, you know, going up against those guys. It's been tough, but it's it's also been, you know, just as a fan of the sport, it's been cool to see, you know, just to see him maximize each and every year. And so just as competitors, right, like that's what you want to go up. You want to go up against the best, you know, at all times, because that's how you solidify greatness, you know, while you're able to play. And so I think, you know, obviously bias because we play him twice a year. I think Patrick Mahomes is obviously one of the best in the league. And then, you know, not to mention the surrounding weapons, you know,

that they do have. I mean, they just drafted the Clyde guy out of LSU. He's a great running back, tough to bring down. You know, no words need to be said for Travis Kelsey and Tyreek Hill. I mean, those guys, you know, do week in and week out, always in the game plan, always still find ways to make things happen. But, I mean, the quarterback of the offense, offense you know who is it is it tyreek is it tyreek then because if you shift coverage towards tyreek travis kelsey's gonna eat and if it's like how what do you how do you guys

approach that oh it's tough yeah i think you know i really think there was uh you know we had that one game uh i think it was a monday night where, you know, we did we did pretty good. Obviously, we didn't win. So not good enough. But, you know, the thing that's so hard, right, is like you try and mix up your coverages and make, you know, Mahomes do his do his absolute best to guess after the snap what you're in and where you're rolling to and who you're doubling and you know what's going on if you're you know for all out blitz if you're only rushing three dropping coverage and so you know ty and then not to mention you know mahomes has to know all that but uh hill and kelsey have to know that as well so they're on the same page with their quarterback and they just do such a good job man and andy reed's a great play caller um they just do a great job overall so it's really a challenge but one that is great as a competitor to go up against nice ty we have justin you mentioned the raiders earlier and how you you

know still sometimes call you know mistake that they're in oakland uh you obviously didn't get to experience it this year but how jacked are you and some of the teammates so you get to go to vegas now to play these guys instead of oakland yeah that's next level oh that stadium is unbelievable like it you know it looks i wasn't a fan just from the outside you know just looking at the overall stadium i just wasn't a fan looking at it what'd you think it was boring hold on what'd you think it was boring or what'd you think from the outside not i wouldn't even say boring but it just like i i don't know like you looked at and i was like i i don't really know what to think here i know you saw the memes of like the what what they call like the stuff they like compared it to star wars and some type of like battleship like it just looked it just looked it just looked different

from what you're used to seeing not saying it was necessarily bad they just look different and then when you're when you're inside though oh unbelievable i mean the the the grass that like they bring in and they like maintenance, they like roll it in and they – oh, man, it felt great to play on. I can't wait for – even though it's in Away Stadium, I can't wait for fans to be able to experience that whole thing. That's going to be home games for the Away teams, I think. Yeah, yeah.

No, I agree. I just am so excited, man. I remember playing in there, looking around at that, just like how – just how beautiful it was, the, I agree. I just am so excited, man. I remember playing in there, you know, looking around at that, just like how, you know, just how beautiful it was, the stadium in general. So I'm excited. No, I'm not saying Raiders fans won't show up, but I do believe that is going to be a massive,

let's take a trip to Vegas, watch our team. And I think all the sports books, they bought up all the licenses and all the casinos bought up all the licenses for the seats. They're going to be having deals for people. You get tickets the game people are going to be that's going to be a lot of i think and especially the broncos fans the broncos fans are very passionate very loyal that might feel like a home game in there even though you did say it looked terrible for me outside terrible i wasn't the biggest fan hey a lot of us i think because it looks like a soccer stadium almost overseas,

kind of had a different Olympic-like stadium look. And then you get inside of that thing. It's awesome. L.A. also for you guys is going to be dope. Before we let you go, I have to ask you about your foundation. Literally, whenever we were doing research on you, it was like, is Gandhi in the NFL here? It feels like you – by the way, I'm thankful that you got a lot of money,

the highest paid deal, because it feels like a lot of this is going to go back into communities and everything like that. Big thank you for what you do off the field. I just want to let you know that. Oh, man, I can't thank you enough just for that acknowledgement. It's been a heck of a journey, and I'm just so thankful for the lessons and the people that have helped along the way. And I just can't wait. I'm really excited. And you talked about my foundation, the Justin Simmons Foundation. And both my wife and I, our hearts are just to be there and just to pour into our youth. I mean, that's really all it is, you know, whether that's through education, whether that's through finances, especially through sports, obviously, you know,

being an athlete myself, just thinking sports is just the best avenue to navigate all the, you know, different things that you just go through and experience in life. And just sports are such a great avenue to walk down for that. And just really looking forward to it. You know, all the things that are going on in our world with, you know, social injustices, you know, pouring into that,

developing our communities, you know, um, adding things into our communities that will help, you know, the maybe not so, uh, you know,

not so wealthy part of neighborhoods and things like that. So those are, those are just like some of the things that, you know, through our foundation and just through talking and meeting people throughout our short nfl career um really looking forward to pouring into and being a part of good dude justin good guy we appreciate hearing that um last question i have to ask about you guys played a game this year uh with a wide receiver quarterback that none of you even know his name was there ever a thought that you were going to play quarterback

in that game against the Saints? I was like, hey, coach, listen, I played quarterback back in my Pop Warner days. I could sling it a little bit now. If you ever need to run some type of option, you might need me. But other than that, other than me and maybe like 30 other players saying that, there was probably no shot that that was even a thought that crossed minds. But, yeah, that game was, I mean, yeah, that game was crazy. Yeah, it was insane to hear about from the outside looking. All the quarterbacks I heard had to sprint off the field on Saturday

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17-game season. It's happening. Not great. Players probably don't love it, but as fans and media people, we absolutely enjoy it. There's other things happening with the leagueigros, the Sky Judge thing maybe. Is that happening? What's going on in other aspects of the world?

There's a combine potentially happening. Yeah, I don't know. There's a lot of crazy shit to break it all down, ladies and gentlemen. A voice from the NFL, ladies and gentlemen, Tom Pellister. Tom, how you doing? What's up? Tom, how are you? We saw you on Good Morning Football. You did a great job. You looked great as well. I appreciate it.

The hoodie was kind of polarizing. I think it was about two-thirds were very positive on it, and then I got about one-third of, you look like you're an unprofessional hack, put the shirt and tie back on. So, a mixed bag, but I liked it. I felt comfortable. It was relatable.

Was Tom just taking a shot at me right there? Yeah, it felt like it. No, not a bit. Yeah, it sounded like you were because I'm literally sitting right next to you in a hoodie, actually a sleeveless one. Come on. You know what I'm saying? I like it, but there are people who are just uncomfortable.

If you wore, all right, if you were dressed like this every day and then for one week you just put on a shirt and tie, you'd probably get a lot of responses about it yeah yeah i would and by the way i did attempt to because i thought i had to have a formal pad at some point here in the upcoming future i tried to put on a shirt and tie we got a fast okay okay listen the shirt and tie game i mean it exposes whether or not you're in shape because you've got to tuck that thing in there. So it's a much harder world, I think, in the shirt and tie game. So after quarantine and we were off the road, not traveling for like six months there, and I had gotten a couple of suits made like last maybe October, November, December, somewhere in there, right?

And so I attempted to put them on for the first time going into week one and i was like it's a full-on fat guy in a little coat thing where i wasn't quite closing the button it looked like there was a lot of stress happening everywhere in this general region yeah uh got by i got a peloton i'm working on it but uh yeah it definitely it exposes if you spend you know six months or so doing nothing and eating a lot yeah i agree completely i only have a few for a time there i only had one suit it was my uh wedding funeral court suit one suit it was just kind of my go-to. Now I have like four or five different jackets. No pants.

I don't have any more pants. I still have just one pair basically with some khakis, but they'll all fit great beginning of football season. By the end of football season, that thing is a halter top basically. That thing's out here. And then I got to go redo the whole thing. How many suits do you have,

Tom? I assume you TV people just have thousands of suits. There's probably like maybe a half dozen that are in regular rotation at this point. I try to freshen it up every year, but let's be honest. No one notices what I'm wearing.

Blue, black, gray, white, right? That's all you really need? A lot of blue. A lot of blue. Yeah, it makes you look better. You like the blue for the eyes. I've got a couple of the windowpane ones and whatever, but it's like that you notice. Then they're like, oh, he's wearing that purple and pink checked jacket

again. You can't wear that more than once a month or it just peacocks too much. Yeah, you're right because it's noticeable. You just want to be suit stooge. It just fits in. Yeah, a lot of shirts, a lot of ties, plain suits. I think I've learned my lesson on that. All right, let's talk about what you're talking about now in suits all over television, I would assume.

The world, the NFL. Do you want to talk pro day shit or do you want to talk league rules stuff? Up to you. I mean, the league rules stuff is a ways out because we're probably, it's going to be several weeks until we get votes on that. Sky Judge, any Sky Judge have a chance chance the sky judge had some support last year if you remember they were going to experiment with it wasn't a true sky judge it was a increased communication between the booth and the officials on the field and of course there's already conspiracy theorists who believe that for years now there have been people from new york or in the booth who are communicating

with the officials on the field, but they were going to regulate some of that on objective types of calls, allow more communication, but they wanted to test that out in the preseason last year. And then potentially if it went well, implemented in the regular season.

Well, there was no preseason because of COVID. And so the expectation seems to be there will be that experimentation again is it going to be enhanced are they going to go with exactly what they did last year uh the competition committee's sorting through some of those things and we should have more answers on that in the next couple of weeks tom why don't you tell them why don't you why don't you just walk in there okay maybe you got to call the rock first before you do this get some footage of the xbox controller sky judge replay ref from the xfl

last year and just say hey let's do this but instead let's not allow the audio out let's not allow that whole thing out because if one of the review people even makes a sound there people are not going to be happy you know like i know a lot of conspiracy theorists will be like well if we don't hear the audio, then they're probably telling them to change a rule that benefits something like that. But really, I don't think you can hear the audio because if the reviewer or anybody

sounds like they're not confident in some sort of decision, that's going to spark even more shit. But I think that person right in the stadium with the direct ear to the ref on the field would be just, I mean, it would just expedite everything, Tom. It would make the league so much better. Now that we have 17 games, let's make these as good as possible.

The 17-game thing always was going to happen, Tom. And did it happen quicker because of COVID? Was this expected by the NFL a couple years from now and then COVID kind of forced their hand? Or what are your thoughts on that, Tom? It was always going to happen. The question was, was it going to happen in 22, 23? Was that your doubt? Was that your doubt?

Was that your doubt? Was that your doubt? Right on cue. Was it going to happen in 22, 23? Or was it going to happen in 2021? Well, the moment that you knew you were going to have a multi-billion dollar revenue shortfall in 2020 that was going to impact, you know, the team's revenues as well as the salary cap and everything else, it made a lot of sense to speed things up.

And so we reported back in December that this was the plan. The reason they couldn't announce it, even though they'd already made the decision months ago, was because in the CBA they're required to negotiate at least one new media contract the tv deal prior to triggering the 17th game and that's related to how the players get their share of revenue by doing a new tv deal which they did all of them uh but if they've even done one and then done the 17th game that triggers this media kicker in which players percentage of revenue actually goes up a little bit it goes to 48 point something percent based on a variety of different factors that are difficult even for me to explain. But they do get a little larger share of a much larger pie going forward. And so once you get out of this cycle that we're in right now

of trying to make up the revenue shortfall from 2020, and I'm talking out into 23, 24, by then the salary cap should spike in a huge way now it doesn't help the players right now a lot of them who are getting jammed up by a smaller salary cap but once you get out there and that new revenue hits it's going to lead to a lot more money for everybody including the players yeah they're saying like a 250 million dollar salary cap in a few years that's hilarious cannot wait to see how much money the quarterbacks get from that whole thing but let's it wouldn't be a surprise i mean that that number would not would not be a shock to me and that's one of the things that i think people overlook here was you know five years ago aaron rogers was the highest

paid quarterback in the nfl and he was making 22 million a year this guy's literally making double that now so the pie has already expanded a ton you know is just, it's a math issue at this point. You know, you had a $4 billion revenue shortfall last year. That means players got $2 billion more than they should have under the revenue sharing agreement. So now owners have to get that money back. Once that's all resolved, which is still two or three years away, and then that new TV money hits in a big way starting in 2023, that's when you're going to see the cap begin to accelerate.

And you saw that reflected in some of the free agent deals that were done this year, too. It is not an accident that a lot of, not just teams, but agents push for one- and two-year deals because they want to get back to the market when the cap begins to go up. Yeah, and hopefully this will continue the carousel of big-name players in free agency

that we've seen over the last couple of years because it's good for us. I assume it's good for you as well. Going back in the pool. Yeah, yeah. It'd be great for us. Oh, my God. Tom Brady's a free agent. Oh, let's talk about pro days and everything happening around the NFL. Justin Fields was being talked about as the definitive number two quarterback of this draft class maybe even since high school at this point I guess it's always been like one of those things and I had a chance to chat with some people who uh like may be involved with the the elite 11s and like the quarterback people and they're all like hey Justin Fields is the dude everybody loves Trevor Lawrence

Justin Fields is the guy then last season he he has an off game against IU, and I think Northwestern as well, who have great defenses. And then this off season, all of a sudden, Mack Jones was getting talked about more than Justin Fields after his one year of greatness. Then Zach Wilson was being talked about above Justin Fields. And then it was like, is Trey Lance better than Justin Fields? It was like, what the hell is happening to Justin Fields? And then yesterday, incredible sip of the mug there by Tom Palacero.

Yesterday, he looked yoked. He made some plays. What is it about Justin Fields? Is this all bullshit, you think, like the narrative that he's falling down the draft? Or do you think he's still the guy? Or what's going on with Justin Fields, and why is this happening? I don't understand why it happened. It's really two factors with justin fields based

on the conversations i've had with scouts and executives within the league one is on tape you see how the coaches really limit at ohio state what their quarterbacks have to read in terms of you know the traditional reads where you know based on the defenses you're expecting the quarterback's eyes to go here to here sometimes Sometimes with fields, he's passing up that five-yard under route and taking off running. And coaches and scouts want to know why. That's a big part of it. Can he read the defense? It's not a question of aptitude.

It's just a question of he hasn't really done it. There are a variety of issues with Dwayne Haskins that had nothing to do with football, which is why he washed out of Washington. But you had some of the same questions on him coming out was he would see things late. He would just jam it in there because his arm was so big. Or sometimes, you know, he seemed to make a lot of plays off schedule. With Fields, you see some of the same things, which is he needs to, at times, he seems to want to create things rather than playing within the rhythm of the offense.

I talked to John Beck, who's training him, as well as Zach Wilson and others, about Fields. And he said, you know, when I was watching the tape with him, I thought some of the same things. Like, why aren't you throwing the ball here? Like, it should go here. And Fields would explain to him, no, I'm being coached to do this. So as Beck said, it's not a matter of him being inefficient. He's doing what he's coached to do. So that's something that people have had to process through without being able to get in person to do film sessions

because private visits, workouts, dinners, all that stuff you're not allowed to do this year and even at pro days it's totally up to the school on whether or not you're able to have actual interaction between team officials and the players so there's that with fields and there's also the personality question the leadership question in 2019 the word that uh people got from the school in the nfl was that you know fields didn't really try to get to know his teammates after he transferred from georgia he just kind of came in wanted to win the job um you know there were just a lot of questions about that leadership style that improved in 2020 they named him a captain in part to try to draw that leadership out of justin fields

it seemed like he did a lot better with it. Teammates vouched for him. So some of that stuff has also been abated. But again, tough to judge that when you can't get a lot of in-person time with a guy. So ultimately, where does he go? Does he slide in this draft? It's still difficult to say in part because the normal conversations I'd be having with scouts right now aren't happening yet because every GM is still at these pro days. It's the first opportunity they've had to see guys.

That kind of wraps up toward the end of this week. There's more pro days coming. It'll be fascinating to see. What's that? There's more pro days coming, though, because of the pro days on the same day now. GMs are requesting and head coaches are requesting more pro days. And now this 150-person combine medical thing that's happening, it feels like this talent evaluation due to a COVID restriction on the combine

has become maybe more beneficial for teams, even though they have to travel. I mean, they probably don't love to travel, but they're requesting multiple pro days. Now there's an entire medical visit that's happening all by itself. Is this going to change how it goes going forward forward is there going to be multiple pro days are they going to are they going to limit the combine more do you think this is what it's going to be like in the future or will they try to get back to what it used to be i think there's gonna be a lot of lessons learned from everything that was altered by covid that's going to be applied going forward in terms of you know just the virtual meetings and the amount of work that you can do when you're not

on the road or you're not physically in the setting. You know, the challenge, though, and I wouldn't say this is beneficial to teams, is they can't work with somebody one-on-one. Every, you have 32 teams, they all have 32 different interview styles, 32 different ways of reviewing film with guys. You know, if you want to get your coach in front of a guy for an hour, you're allowed to do it on Zoom a handful of times, but you're not actually allowed to do it in person. So even these additional pro days, and this is, I don't want to call it controversial, but it's something that people definitely are discussing within the league. Technically, you're only allowed to have pro days. You can't have private workouts. So when Justin Fields or the 49ers say, well,

Fields is going to do an extra pro day for the 49ers, he can't actually do that. Ohio State, hypothetically, can schedule an additional pro day, which it sounds like they'll do closer to the draft. But then everybody is allowed to be invited, and that, for some teams, is going to have less use. So it's definitely a different process. In terms of that medical at the Combine, that's something they were always planning on doing. But even that is much more limited.

Normally you have about 330 guys at the the combine who go through the full medical. There's four different rooms, 18 docs in each room. You go through, you run the gamut. Everybody makes their evaluations. You get every possible test done. And every year, there's like three, four, five guys who have some undiagnosed condition, whether it's a broken bone or a heart condition or whatever, they get flagged. Well, this year, they did Teladoc appointments, like virtual visits with all these guys.

And so there were guys who were flagged, but they're only going to have 150 guys total, so less than half the normal number will actually come in to be physically examined. It's expected to be the top. Everybody was projected as a top three-round pick, as well as anybody who was flagged. But I've talked to teams who are like, there's always that concern that we're going to draft a guy whatever in the fourth round and find out he's got afib or he's got some heart condition he can never play for us and because we're not allowed to bring him in for a medical visit at our facility either there's a roll of the dice there's no question about it with some of these things as you get to day three of the draft and by the way

those physicals can help the players a lot as well so you, you know, it's good news that those are happening. Last question here, Tom. We appreciate you so much for your time. Talking to Tom Pellicero from NFL Network. Connor, please. Yeah, Tom, our commissioner, your boss, Roger Goodell, announced yesterday that there will be full stadiums. Yeah!

So, my question is centered around mostly there being full stadiums. Yeah! Is that every team? Is that in certain states? I mean, what's the deal here, Tom? I will say this. It is not an accident, Connor, that Roger Goodell brought that up on his own.

This wasn't a response to a question on the media call. This was Goodell in his opening statement saying, we expect to have full stadium. Yeah! Woo! Woo! Stadium. Now, here's the thing.

You're still going to have to work with the state and local and public health authorities. In a state like California, you've got several teams that play there, and it's one of the more restrictive states. If the state says you're not allowed to do this, there's only so much that the NFL can do. What they are able to point to is the data from last season. When they worked with the public health authorities, they had 1.2 million or so fans at 119 games last year it felt like a lot of empty

stadiums i was definitely in a lot of empty stadiums but close to half the games had some fans there they worked with mit they did statistical modeling they worked with the public health authorities and they didn't find any case clusters that were related to games now that was all people in pods they're wearing masks they're social distancing all that stuff if you're talking full stadiums some of that stuff like goes out kind of stuck that one by goes out the window but you know they believe that based upon the rate of vaccinations ramping up the way that things are being handled from a league level as well as from a national and a local level. They're optimistic, and certainly they are approaching this as if they are going to have full stadiums.

Yeah! All right. Tom, you're the best, man. Thanks for that, Rod. You just took us on there with that knowledge. You're the absolute fantastic man covering the NFL from the NFL's point of view, ladies and gentlemen. Tom Hensley.

Yeah, Hensley! Had Orszawski on last hour. His comments about what he's hearing from people about Justin Fields have sparked some conversation. I'm not sure if he said that on his show, NFL Live, every single day on

ESPN, which we watch, and the last couple days has been Dan Orszawski's Super Bowl, actually, breaking down film on Justin Fields and Mac Jones and Zach Wilson. It's been fascinating to hear him break down why each player will potentially succeed at the next level because of what they can do on the field. And at this point, Dan Orlovsky has, I would assume,

through his media relationships and getting a chance to meet people but also when you're in the football in football as long as he was a backup quarterback too for like 12 13 years or whatever you you make friends with a lot of people who move up the ranks in the NFL he said that what he's hearing from NFL teams on Justin Fields is that he's a last one in, first one out type guy, which is basically point A, B, C, D, E, and F for a lot of people on what they want in their franchise quarterback, especially that high. Now, is Dan Orlovsky potentially being lied to by teams that want to drop Justin Fields' draft stock

so that they can potentially swoop up and get him? This happens. This is something that happens in sports. We think it's disgusting. We do not like like that it happens but it has happened before where teams have lied about somebody hoping that that'll drop him in the draft so that they can potentially steal and make that happen is that what's going on or is that real people are actually saying that about justin fields joining us now is an ohio state legend a man who could probably speak a little bit more about this aj A.J. Hawk.

What's going on, dude? How's my camera look? Terrible? Yeah, horrible. Yeah, you look brutal. You have a filter on right now, it looks like. No, something happened. When I turned my camera on earlier, it said something was down converting. Something might be messed up.

I have no clue what to do. Well, it kind of looks like you are like a painting. Yeah, it's a cool purple shirt. It's pretty cool. It seems like you're like a painting. Yeah, it's a cool purple shirt. It's pretty cool. It seems like you're in canvas mode on. Yeah, you should just maybe screenshot this, by the way, and print it out. It looks pretty.

It looks like you. Yeah, like kind of like a little brush. It looks like a Picasso. Yeah, it does. It does look like a Picasso. But you look fantastic. It's not going to hurt the show. I understand you're probably hating every second of this. If it's not perfect audio and video,

AJ is not happy with it. He will hang it up, but we appreciate that even though your internet is normally trash. Let's talk about Justin Fields, AJ. Justin Fields, Dan Orlovsky said he is hearing. Now, we have to make sure that people don't think this is what Dan Orlovsky said about Justin Fields. Dan Orlovsky said this is what he's hearing from people that are decision makers in the NFL

that Justin Fields is potentially last one in said this is what he's hearing from people that are decision makers in the NFL, that Justin Fields is potentially last one in, first one out type guy, which is why the narrative of his draft stock is going down. You're an Ohio State guy. You've been around Ohio State. Tom Palacero said when he transferred from Georgia, he didn't make any friends in the locker room. He just wanted to do this whole thing. So I think there's

a lot of thought about how he'll be as the, you know, basically CEO of a quarterback team how would at ohio state is that something that's talked about because somebody would have had to tell the nfl team that was the case is that a narrative about him that's accurate in your eyes how do you think this whole thing has has happened this way i honestly don't know what to think and i heard your interview with with dane and it's definitely something if you're a coach or a gm or a scout you would worry about if any of it is true because that's the one thing

when you're trying to get your franchise QB that should never be a question. Like, does he love the game? Does he have that attention to detail and that crazy competitiveness that you have to have? And then all of a sudden you need all the physical tools and the mental tools. I haven't heard it. I mean, I'm not dialed in to the Buckeyes like maybe General Bob is. Oh, wait.

He talks to more people. No, not to you. I know. Yeah. I don't know. It's just that would scare me, too, if I was a scout. But I have no idea if any of it is true or not. Yeah.

If that would make a lot of sense because I've been very befuddled about how this guy goes from an absolute stud. This guy, most talented guy. Here we go. This is the locked in two guy. And then it just came out. I know he had a couple bad games, but I think everybody did. I mean, Matt Jones might not have that. They seem to just be an absolute buzzsaw every single week.

But you're going to have bad games. And the fact that a two-year, three-year narrative almost got changed because of it there had to be something would make sense if numerous media people are being told by numerous decision makers that uh we we're not 100 sold on his passion or whatever that's why the media people are like oh there's no way they're taking so it's it could be all bullshit though ages could all be lies it absolutely all of it could be smoke screens thrown out from a million different teams. Yeah, I don't know.

Also, though, if that is the case, like, say, you may be worried about a guy not having that attention to detail, not being that person, first one in, last one to leave, whatever it is. You can somewhat, I think, gain that with maturity and with age and with time. Like, you don't have much time when you're in the league to try to find it. But you could find it, I think, guys have in the past. Perspective, I think. Your perspective, when you change your perspective, and this is going to sound bad, I think,

but once you view it as like, hey, this is a job. Like, this is a job. Yeah. Like, if, okay, so back at Ohio State, this is all acting as if what is being allegedly told from decision makers is true. This is just allegedly true. We're going to act as if this is true and why this conversation has happened.

We do not feel this way. We are just observing and reporting what we've been told. But in college, maybe Justin Fields wasn't told or shown or didn't have to potentially dial it in. When you get to the NFL, you got to hope that there's a veteran quarterback there that could potentially show you like, no, this is what you should be doing. There's also this you could get better at at this time. This is where you could do this.

Here's where you can grow. This is where we, this is when we get in the building. You know why? Because we're the quarterback and this is when we get in the building. Like I do believe you're right. And that's when your perspective changes on what this whole thing is like, Hey, this is a job. Now you want to make fucking money.

Like, this is what you do. This is what everybody who is successful does. It changes. Is that what I think you and I, I think I'm, I agree with you on that whole thing. Yeah, it can change. But I think also sometimes you have to be, something has to scare you and say like in football either gets taken away or you get benched or something happens i feel like that can get people kind of going like

oh wait what does my life look like if i'm not in the league like if i if i'm not on this team this is what i thought i was going to do for the next 10 15 years now that whole thing could change i think some people get scared and that kind of gets them going too that happened to me you know when you're sitting in solitary confinement about 7 8 a.m and you are nowhere near good enough to be in the position you are currently in that kind of changes your perspective on everything it's like okay let's stop fucking around here but not everybody can do it too you know what i mean there's a lot of people that kind of you know i've always been the best athlete i've always been able to get away with doing this then they get to the nfl and it doesn't work out that's why there's a lot of first round draft picks that

don't work out. If you're drafted in first round, you're good at football. If you don't work out in the NFL, like everybody thought you were going to work out, maybe it's because physical limitations, maybe because it's unhealthy or unlucky with the situations you go in, but also potentially because you weren't as committed as the people that are at the top of had to be like you, you don't get, you like being in the NFL. Okay. You like being in the NFL, but like to dominate and remain in the NFL, there are other things you have to do. Not everybody can do that. It's a, it's a, it's quite a dial in a commitment that you have to have as well.

Right. The old saying, what don't a lot of people say, like, do you, do you love football or do you love what football brings you like all the money everything going on outside and you when you put it in that when you i had someone tell me that talking about somebody else they said well you know i'm kind of scared that he loves what it brings him doesn't love football and i was like that's a good a good way to look at i start to look at different people and you could probably think of a couple guys off the top of your head where you're like yeah oh yeah they're in it like they do this because they can get these sweet cars they can talk to girls like things are easier yeah and what's the old quote oh it's on a poster

right above brant boyer's head everybody wants to be a lot brant boyer special teams coordinator for the jets he survived the firing i believe wow yeah i think he's been on a couple. He's a good dude. He was a special teams player in the NFL for like 13 years, and that was back when they had no rules. So that tells you everything you need to know about this guy. He is awesome. But he has a he had a poster that said, everybody wants

to be a lion until it comes time to do what lions have to do or whatever. It's like everybody wants to be king of the jungle until it comes time, like, okay, you've got to go get it. Everybody wants to be in the NFL until it comes time, like, okay, this is what you've got to do if you have to do or whatever. It's like everybody wants to be king of the jungle until it comes time. Like, okay, you've got to go get it. Everybody wants to be in the NFL until it comes time. Like, okay, this is what you've got to do if you want to do this whole thing. It is – that's in everything, though. You know?

Kyle Trask has his pro day right now. This fucking guy looks good. Yeah, he's spinning. Like, how are we going to judge this guy? Is this guy potentially going to climb up the charts, by the way? He looks really good. It's the same thing with Mac Jones. It's like, well, he's throwing to Kyle Pitts and, you know,

another first-round wide receiver. So who knows if these balls are even good or if these guys are just going and getting them. All right. Let's get some phone calls. Hey, we got a big-time guest coming up about 14 minutes, AJ. Justin Simmons, right? Yeah.

Do you know anything about him? Yeah, I know he's a stud, and I know he seems to take care and help out everybody in the country already. He seems like a great dude. Everybody. I was trying to do a little research. The only thing that's coming up is, obviously, he's a great football player,

but, yeah, he just helps everybody on earth. Oh, yeah. We got Gandhi playing safety. Yeah, that's right. For the Broncos joining us in about 14, 13 minutes or so. I'd say that's a pretty good draft. Is that a John Elway draft pick? We should give him credit, you know,

because there's a lot of heat that John Elway gets because, you know, he fired and promoted himself at the same time. And Peyton came in there and they turned that whole place around. And John won as a quarterback. John won as an executive. Okay, not a lot of people have done that.

He also won as a car dealer. That's right. I believe he has sold next to 6 to 7 million cars at dealerships. So John has won at life, but a lot of people think his talent evaluation wasn't always fantastic. Well, does he have any talent evaluation in his new title, whatever that title may be? No, no. He got moved out of that. He moved to my football ops, but he moved up in the ladder.

Much higher position. Yeah, but a much higher, better position. It's good. It's good that when you can do that, when you can grant yourself that next gig. Well, he's John Elway, dude. This one is for John. Yeah. You know what I mean?

So they said, you do whatever the fuck you want, dude. After we won a Super Bowl, we actually said, this one's for you, dude. This is for you. And then you returned a favor and said, this one's for Pat. Let's go, Wade. I used that a lot in my life. I clipped that and there was a lot of... I would ask somebody to do something

and send that immediately afterwards. Hey, this one's for Pat. Hey, can you go grab me a... No? It was really nice. Shout out to John Elway for that. What do you want to talk about Wade? Hey Pat thanks for taking the call today man Hey no problem at all

Kyle Trask is under center No center Takes a play action Drop back Seven step Two hitch Deep ball Wide receivers tired

Wasn't running an actual route Who knows if the timing was right or not He seemed to throw it a long distance though That seemed to be setting him up for failure. Wade, what do you want to talk about? Hey, man, I just wanted to get a pro's pro perspective on this. I feel like the NFL missed a real opportunity to schedule, like, same city, same state games every year that are cross-conferences.

You've got two teams in L.A., two teams in New York, two teams in Texas. These teams only play one every four years. But adding the 17th game, I feel like you could get this little rivalry going year over year to really kind of build up more fandom throughout the NFL. We like it, Wade. We like the idea. And I thought there was a chance. Is Josh Rosen leading the workout for Kyle Trask?

Was that the Rosen one? I'm not sure. The showcase game, though, that 17th game, are they locked into doing what they're doing now for the foreseeable future, or will they potentially make that one of those spectacle-like

game, like all-star game? I wonder how they're going to set that whole thing up, AJ. I think it depends on how it goes. They'll pivot once they see how it happens. But was the caller, Wade, I believe, was he saying, if you want to add those in-state rivalry games, do you tell me the Bengals and Browns are going to play each other three times a year now if you do that? Well, I guess the Bengals and Browns would be different

because they're in the same division. I think he's talking about people that are in the same division. I said Ohio. I was wrong in that. But also, Kyle Trask was throwing a half-team drop. He said the same state, I think, not division. Yeah, but I think what he meant was the people that aren't in the same division that are in the same state, you can get the state rivalries to go off.

And then you can just get geographic ones, too, if you had to, to kind of link it up. Carolina, Atlanta, I assume there's some cross in there, that whole thing. In that release, that's the division. It would be like the Eagles and the Steelers, right? That would be awesome. And I guess the Rams and the Chargers. Jets and

Giants. What would they do? Just split stadiums? Dolphins, Bucs. Jets, Giants. Same stadium. Play against each other. They've played against each other before they have. And one team's deemed the home team, so their season ticket holders get

in and the other people don't? Yeah, I believe so. How do you feel about same stadium, two teams? Well, isn't it called Giant Stadium? No. MetLife. MetLife, yeah. Jesus Christ. See, the old one.

But the old one was Giant Stadium, and they both played there. That's like 35 years ago. How about Chargers-Rams, too? They're in the same out there, right? That's a nice facility. I can understand why they're sharing it. When Oakland's saying, well, Oakland's not there anymore. Dean's fan is his cheapskate.

Whoa, whoa, whoa, dude. He put in like 1 15th of that whole place. Yeah. He is a cheapskate. Whoa, whoa, whoa, dude. He put in like one-fifteenth of that whole place. Yeah. He did. It was expected to be a certain amount, and then all of a sudden it got doubled, then tripled. Cronky. Cronky said, ah, fuck it. I'll just do it. Spanos, you get

no concerts in here. No. You get your home games, and that's it. We get concerts every single day. Let's go to another phone call. Let's go to Jordan, Michigan. Jordan, what's going on, dude? Oh, come on, Jordan. This is unbelievable. Fucking sleeping on the job.

Michigan, man. It's probably in Detroit. No Wi-Fi. It's a phone call, though. I know. This guy stinks. Come on. There's Tom Pelissero just put a tweet out about the 17th game bonus check here.

The Jared Goff payday that's coming, if he is on the roster at that time. You have to be on the roster, I believe, at that date is how it is specified. Lions quarterback Jared Goff will get an extra game check, a bonus, for the 17th game worth $1.5 million. At the end, the largest bonus among dozens of NFL players who will cash in on a CBA provision regarding contracts signed prior to February 26, 2020. Tom Pellicero, by the way, voice of the NFL, saying, look at this. This is a big-time win.

Jared Goff gets an extra $1.5 million. That 17th game with a 117th check being given to you the day the game kind of goes off, I think that was obviously the smart way to do this so it doesn't affect the salary cap, but $1.5 million more for Jared Goff, and then there's more tweets from Tom Pellis that are other players in line to earn at least an extra million, an extra

117th large base salaries. Jimmy Garoppolo, Matt Ryan, Aaron Donald, Derek Carr, Russell Wilson, Frank Clark, Von Miller, Khalil Mack, and Demarcus Lawrence. So it's another game check for people. We're learning exactly what everybody's game checks are right now via these tweets. Hey, Pat, but also, okay, so what about players like all these people

that we convert their salary to bonuses to restructure? Now if your salary is minimum but you get a $15 million roster bonus, you're getting one-seventeenth of minimum when you get this. So you want to put all your money now in your salary? Oh, because the signing bonus, instead of the salary cap, to make the salary cap lower, guys are fucking themselves in the end, but getting the money up front. They are legitimately screwing themselves this year.

Now, I assume the negotiations will go, that's a great point you just made. I assume the CBA and the NFL and the NFLPA will figure out how to write that moving forward because you're going to have to. But yeah, all these I will absolutely transfer some of my salary

into a signing bonus so they can pay me now so we can utilize and open up some more salary cap space. And then that 17th game comes along and you're like oh these motherfuckers oh no i got a i got all of a sudden i got a playoff check coming to me when i'm supposed to get you you know game checks are a big deal and anytime you hear somebody say put a game check on it it is almost like uh that's like triple stamp double stamp yeah yeah It's like a triple dog dare there. It is a big deal. Put a game check on it. No, you won't put a game check on it.

No, you're right. Nobody will. There's only a few of those coming all year round. Big money for golf, though. Good for Detroit. Congrats, Jared. He deserves it. He deserves it.

So the Lions are paying that, right? Yeah, that's from the Lions. Oh, yeah. You think they thought about it? Nope. When they signed him, did they think about that? That's an extra $1.5 million. Did we fucking know?

We'll take the draft pick, though. I guess the only team to vote no on the 17-game season, Chicago Bears said, we ain't doing it. Health and safety of the players is the most important thing. Big shot to the Bears. Thank you, George. 30-1 votes. 17-game season.

The one, the Chicago Bears. Thank you. We like this 16-game season. We've never really figured it out, so we don't want to change. They got into the playoffs at 8-8. They don't want to change anything. What if they don't make it next year? Yeah, Tom, I think it's for player safety.

Please have a look. Sure, sure. More information coming from Tom Pelissero. To qualify, players must make more than a minimum on contracts signed prior to February 26, 2020 when the CBA was essentially finalized and not substantially renegotiated since, i.e., more significant than simple conversions for salary cap purposes. In 2021, those extra game checks will be funded from the performance-based

pay pool up to $48 million in rookie redistribution. All right. Jesus, Tom. Benefits, not salary, and thus don't count against the cap. This guy. Tom. Tom is the NFL, by the way. I think it's maybe the NFL's Twitter account.

No, it's Roger Goodell, the NFL's Twitter account, Tom Pelissero. That's right. If you want to know what the NFL is thinking, this is exactly what it is. He is dialed all the way in there. Hey, so if it's coming out of that pool for player performance bonuses, are those gone now? Because now we just have the 17th? No, because the player performance should go up shouldn't it should but

it's if they're taking the money to pay these extra salaries technically yeah player performance for those that don't know is a bonus that is given uh at the end of a year if you are deemed to outperform your contract so for instance as a rookie seventh round draft pick for me, I was rookie men salary. My signing bonus was like $52,000. And then I punted, kicked, or kicked off and held or whatever. So the amount of plays that I was in was calculated against the amount of projected plays for what I was being paid. And then you get a bonus for whatever's on top of that. So let's say you're a rookie

offensive lineman who is getting rookie man or whatever and then you get thrusted into a starting role and then you play the entire season you way outperform your contract you're having 60 50 plays a game or whatever uh you get six figures bonuses that come in march or something like that like i know guys have gotten like 400 500 000 dollars, $500,000 in these bonuses. From the performance bonuses, I've gotten $15,000 to $25,000. So it's like an algorithm almost to kind of try to make up for it, although it's not actually what they're worth. It's like here's a little bit more money if you outperformed it.

If they take that away, there will be a lot of guys pissed off, I think. Oh, absolutely. Yeah, it's there for guys like, say, you're drafted sixth, seventh round, like you said, but say a guy gets thrust into the lineup week two. Like, you know, if that dude stays healthy, it's just strictly off of, like, snaps played. It's not performance or anything. It's just if you're in there, if you're competing.

So you know that dude's getting 200-plus probably, right? Yeah, they're making money. A.Q. Shipley was raking in money in these performance bonuses. And he would always call me, you know, like, hey, what you get? I got $7,000, dude. Oh, let me tell you what. Watch this. I was like, damn it, A.Q.

That's good for you. But he deserved it. And that's how that whole thing goes. If they take that away, I mean, you're going to piss off, what, the bottom three-quarters of the roster. If they don't take it away, will they raise you're going to piss off, what, the bottom three-quarters of the roster. If they don't take it away, will they raise it? Because it's another game, another place. The algorithm will get shifted.

They'll project how many plays in a 17-game season. Can't thank you enough for choosing to listen to this show. The fact that you allow us to be a part of your every day, Monday through Friday, we can't say thank you enough. Tomorrow's show is a big one. Loaded show tomorrow. Listen, today's show was obviously massive. Huge.

Newsmaking. Tomorrow's show is big, though. Bands being lifted. It's a big deal. Yeah. Both in life and on this show. All right. Be a friend, though. For entire, please play some independent music and repel these people into a It's a big deal. Yeah. Both in life and on this show. Mm-hmm. All right.

Be a friend, though. And Ty, please play some independent music and propel these people into a beautiful Wednesday night. We'll be back tomorrow. Cheers. And thank you all so, so much. අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි សូវាប់ពីបានប់ពីបានប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពី Thank you. សូវាប់បានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបាូវាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប� Thank you. Bye.