The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 387 - Feel Good Good Friday, Xavier Rhodes, & Ariel Helwani
Episode Date: April 2, 2021On today's show, Pat and the boys slog through this Feel Good, Good Friday chatting about Jeff Bezos potentially buying the Chargers and why the richest man in the world getting into the NFL would be ...a good thing, what's going on around the NFL, and much more. Next, 3x Pro Bowl, All-Pro, former Minnesota Vikings CB and current Indianapolis Colts CB, Xavier Rhodes joins the program to chat about what it has been in Indianapolis that has gotten him back to his dominant play, what he loves about playing for Frank Reich, what WR's have given him the most trouble during his time in the league, if he likes being able to do the offseason virtually, and much more (32:40-51:19). Later, ESPN MMA Insider, former friend of the program (before the ban), Ariel Helwani joins the program to chat about his time away from the show, a certain April Fools prank that had us all confused, and ultimately, if he thinks Jon Jones and Francis Ngannou are going to fight each other in the Octagon (1:02:23-1:35:03). Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow and listen every day on Mad Dog Radio, Sirius XM Channel 82. We appreciate you all for listening, come and laugh with us, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Hello! Good Friday, feel good Friday, April 2nd.
I think today has a pretty good listen for you.
Yeah, I think so. Good show going into the weekend.
A stooge returns.
Mm-hmm.
A new friend potentially emerges.
Mm-hmm.
And we send, I think, into Final Four weekend in a beautiful fashion.
Absolutely.
Can't thank you enough for choosing to listen to this show.
If you enjoy it, by the end of it, please be a friend and tell a friend. If not, just act like it never happened. Ty, let's get to it.
Pretty big show today. I got Xavier Rhodes joining us in the third hours. Cannot wait to chat with him. And then we might have a surprise guest in the first couple hours. you know when you were a kid and maybe your neighbors
like it was early
or late at night and you go over
and you'd say to the parents
is blah blah allowed to play?
Yeah, of course. And then the parent would
have to say
I got homework.
Or not today. Or yeah
absolutely. And I think that's kind of
what's going on right now so i might have big time guests got to make sure their parents say
it's okay though uh to come on that'll make more sense i think whatever the person comes on i'm not
talking to a child by the way i mean kids do not get along that well but the um they like me i
don't like them you know it 1888 Mad Dog 6.
We're going to take a lot of phone calls today, wrapping up the week here.
Easter's on Sunday.
Hope you enjoy that.
Good Friday today, I guess,
is when Jesus died.
Rest in peace.
No more silence.
Okay, he died.
Then Sunday,
I'm back. It's a's like a it's a birthday
with me with me with me out of the cave and that's what easter is all about so we have eggs
of course because the eggs uh come from an animal that isn't a rabbit but also the whole thing uh
is it because of it's i hop he went to IHOP after.
Well, no, is it a full rebirth?
Is that why the eggs are happening?
Because it's another birth?
You know what?
I've never thought of it like that, but that actually would make a little sense.
That'd be a good way to spin it.
You could do that.
You know, Santa Claus doesn't fully understand.
It doesn't make a lot of sense, right?
I don't know how the jolly old fat man came to be, but I...
The elves make the toys.
What's that?
The elves make the toys.
I agree.
Okay.
I agree with what you're saying.
Two for two here early.
I do appreciate that.
But Santa Claus is really nothing that kind of relates to Jesus being born.
I guess coming down the chimney out of the fire pit or fireplace, that could potentially
be Jesus coming out of the virgin.
You know what I mean?
Like the birthday. So I guess that's how you tie it virgin. You know what I mean? Like the birthday.
So I guess that's how you tie it together.
The eggs, I think, is the birth, right?
It's like a new birth, a rebirth.
I'm back.
How you doing?
But the bunny, I never fully understood how the bunny got involved,
but I'm sure it's a great time for all the kids out there.
I mean, the bunny's Hallmark.
You know, those greedy corporate fat cats over at Hallmark said,
hey, listen, we got all these Catholics,
all these people that celebrate Easter,
and we're not cashing in on it.
We got to figure something out.
Boom, Easter Bunny.
Yeah, we already did Valentine's Day.
Remember whenever we basically made
every husband, boyfriend, significant other
feel terrible about themselves,
forced to buy our cards.
We'll do the same damn thing.
With Jesus coming out of a cave, we'll make it a rabbit. They'll have to get a basket. It'll do the same damn thing with Jesus coming out of a cave.
We'll make it a rabbit.
They'll have to get a basket.
It'll have to be an entire thing.
They're smart over there.
Oh yeah.
Hey, that's smart business.
It is.
It's like Apple, you know, creating the phone, but then the only way to charge the phone
is if you get our charger.
And then by the way, our charger, we're going to change that.
You got to pay for that.
Then this and that.
It's like they generate, you know, people have to oh yeah to keep it in there hallmark has done that
they create holidays exactly and you're thinking you're saying that ty schmidt you are you 100
sure hallmark created the bunny i would guess they were a big proponent of it oh here we go
1700s was the first time the easter bunny arrived America. The German immigrants who settled in Pennsylvania and
transported their tradition of an egg-laying
hare called
Osterhase.
Okay, 1700s right there.
Walmart.
It was the German hallmark that created that.
But I'll do,
you know, my lady will do
an Easter
egg hunt.
You know, they'll do an entire hunt where I'll have to do.
Didn't do any of that as a child, but here I am as an adult getting ready for this whole thing.
Pretty pumped up for Easter.
Congrats to Jesus, by the way.
They thought he was dead.
I don't know why it's Good Friday, right?
I guess because he died for sin, so that's a good thing so that everybody could act terribly.
I don't know if that's how Good Friday kind of exists,
but everybody thought he was done after that Italian killed him.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
People forget the Italians were...
That's right.
That might have been one of the first organized crime hits.
Yeah, mob hit.
Of all time.
They kind of paid the Italians to do that whole thing.
And when he comes back, what a moment that had to be.
Oh, yeah.
That son of a bitch.
You see him?
Holy shit, that rock has moved.
That's like every time there's a date line and somebody's trying to hire a killer.
And they end up recording and the hired killer is that.
And they have to do the makeup that they're dead and everything.
And then in court, whenever they're facing, that person gets up on the stand.
I wonder if it's like, I thought that motherfucker was dead.
Do you remember how happy I was when this person that I
paid, was paying somebody to kill
was, I was so happy. Here I am
in court staring at this person. That has to be,
now obviously that's a much different situation
than when Jesus popped back. Right.
But I would assume a lot of people that thought he was
gone. Asked for a refund.
Exactly. The old school, dead and
gone. Remember all that shit
that dude was saying, walking around doing all that?
He is dead.
They were probably so happy.
Well, and then he thought, oh, you thought I was kidding, too.
Look at the stigmata.
Like, yeah, I really did die.
I really did, Jay.
This is not an impersonator.
Yeah, it's in the joke.
No, this is not.
This is not Ty Schmidt, Jay Glazer.
No, no.
This was me.
Look.
Boom.
Pow. See the feet, too. Doom. I was just. This was me. Look. Boom. Pow.
See the feet too.
Boom.
I was just bleeding a few days ago.
Now what am I doing?
Using those same hands, pushing rocks out of the way.
How did he get in the...
Oh, that's where, because the cave.
Yeah.
Exactly.
Imagine the first cave.
Did he army crawl through the earth, through the cave?
Underneath the stone?
Yeah.
No, like how did he get into the cave?
Is that where they buried him? Yeah, they buried him after how did he get into the cave? Is that what they...
Yeah, they buried him after they took him down from the cross.
See, I didn't know that.
The only thing I've seen is the end.
I thought the end was him kind of hanging out
like this. And then they took him
down and went and buried him in the cave.
And then they put rocks in front.
Dead and gone. No one ever to
go in there again. And just like Bruce Wayne
down in the thing, he took the rope off, jumped.
Yep, yep.
Exactly.
Grabbed the thing.
Right.
And that's why we're celebrating Easter.
Yeah.
Bingo.
You nailed it.
Happy Easter, Connor.
Happy Easter, Pat.
Can you imagine the first guy, too, who walked back, you know, three days later,
I'm just going to go check on JC, you know?
And the rocks are all moved.
Yeah.
What's going on here?
Did somebody go in there?
Holy shit.
We didn't tell anybody where this cave was, did we?
No, no, no.
Somebody moved some stuff.
Yeah, like a Dom Batista walking in there.
That's probably what they thought happened.
Some guy that big moving a rock all of a sudden.
No, nobody's in there.
Who did you say?
Dom Batista.
Go on.
You know, someone that size, a guy who's standing over everybody.
Who is Dom Batista?
I don't know. I watched a movie with him in the movie over everybody. Who is Dom Batista? I don't know.
I watched a movie with him in the movie last night.
It's Dave Batista.
There it is.
Dave Batista.
Dave Batista.
I thought it was Dom Toretto you were talking about.
Dom Toretto, too?
A guy that size?
I thought you were saying Vin Diesel walked in there.
Vin Diesel, yeah, sure.
Vin Diesel moved it.
Dave Batista.
I like Don Bautista, by the way.
That was better.
Give me what I want.
Give me what I want.
Dave Bautista.
Zito, happy Easter, by the way.
Thank you.
It means a lot.
Had a couple drop-ins there early that potentially just completely derailed the entire place where I was headed.
But I do, every time you speak, I think to myself.
Was the IHOP?
Because he ate eggs when he got out.
Yeah.
Oh, I thought it was the rabbit's hop.
I thought that was both.
It was a double-layered joke.
As soon as I thought of IHOP, I thought pancakes immediately.
Yeah, those expire.
I don't know how we're going to get to the pancakes, but, Zito, anytime your brain thinks of something,
I would like you to continue to just fire it out there.
But right now, the poll that we put out, I think this one is going to garner some real conversation.
And we'll get to some phone calls here immediately following the poll introduction here.
We'll try to break a record maybe for the amount of phone calls.
This week has been, I'm going to be honest, this week has not been a fun one to be a live sports show host.
A little dry in the sports world.
It really is. Now granted, Final
Four is tomorrow.
Pro days. Pro days are happening.
People are running around and there's a combine
happening now too, I guess, which wasn't supposed
to happen, which is why these pro days are
so big. Now there's a combine happening.
Two pro days for a lot of guys and
a combine for these coaches. Feels like there's
a chance the NFL is potentially, you know,
seeing a situation here and maybe, you know, they get to get us.
They get to allow us to evaluate them to potentially get, what,
two pro, might have three pro days.
Have this combine.
We'll do this.
We'll do that.
Yeah, remember, they have to do this stuff because if not,
they're not going to get to the NFL.
They want to get to the NFL, don't they?
We are the NFL.
They got to do all this stuff.
Let's continue to do it.
It's interesting how this has all worked.
Now, granted, Indianapolis handling the March Madness spectacle with very little interruption.
Very little.
I guess there was a team early that got COVID or whatever.
But it feels like Indianapolis was able to handle this.
The NFL, who knows Indianapolis very well because the Combine for years and years has been here,
watched what happened with March Madness, probably gave a couple calls to the city.
Hey, can we just do the Combine?
They're like, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, we're good.
Yeah, we're all good.
We got these tunnels.
You know the tunnels.
We'll do whatever.
You literally walk under the city to get to the stadium and then to the convention center, then to wherever.
Sure, you're fine.
They're like, well, we already did all these pro days.
Do we want to do a combine?
And every team was like, yes, we would like to do a combine.
Now they're doing a combine as well.
The NFL, there's a couple of that going on.
There's some bullshit news headlines that are happening, I guess,
which we were right in the middle of this week.
Oh, yeah.
A lot of those.
That's what's going to happen, though, whenever you're covering sports on a daily basis.
And maybe sports aren't happening on a daily basis that are worth talking about.
Like, for instance, baseball happened yesterday.
Biggest thing out of it, Cleveland TV guy doing his thing.
Biggest thing from day one was Cleveland TV guy calling a caller an ignoramus.
That was maybe my favorite thing that happened out of day
one. Yankees lost. Pirates
won. Tigers won.
Dodgers lost.
Let's assume the Boston Red Sox
today, their first game, they're going to lose.
This is what... Listen, not
because they're not good. It's because
I think if you're even a notable team
at all this season, you're losing early.
And remember when we talked to Euclid yesterday,
he said there's going to be teams that stink
and their fans are going to be happy during the first month
because they have to kind of find their bearings.
But a pretty good bet today, I think, is the Red Sox are going to lose
if you just go off what happened yesterday.
I don't know.
I do have a feeling the Sox are going for the perfect season, 162-0.
So I don't know if I would bet.
Is that what your sources, people in the know, are telling you?
That's what they're saying.
They're saying, hey, look, they're coming out every single game this year
looking for a win.
We talked about baseball.
I buried our show there for a bit.
Do the Yankees stink?
No, they don't.
It looks like it.
Judge is pathetic this year.
Judge played like shit yesterday.
What do you mean?
He was one for five.
He left a lot of guys on base.
No.
One for five. In the bottom of the ninth, I want left a lot of guys on base. No. One for five.
In the bottom of the ninth, I want to say he had guys on second and third
with two outs, a chance to walk off, and he struck out on a heater.
I mean, right down the middle.
No.
It'll take him.
Well, Foxy, he's 98 miles an hour.
It wasn't a meatball.
My first time ever in a batter's box, the guy threw 92 miles an hour. I turned
square on it. Aaron Judd,
bottom of the ninth.
A lot of money on the line.
Tie game.
I didn't know this because obviously I did not watch the rest
of that game. As soon as it got off on the
studio, I would never turn it on again.
I thought we were winning that game.
I wake up this morning. I check the whole thing.
We lost. I lost. whole thing. We lost.
I lost.
We lost.
We lost.
Yesterday.
A pretty significant amount.
And the first thing I look for, I didn't know we had a chance to win this thing.
And our guy, who we bet on multiple times, first home run of the MLB season.
Had a home run. Home run yesterday.
Lost that.
I didn't know he lost that, those bets, and the game for us yesterday.
What's he doing?
Is he too famous?
Is Aaron Judge too popular now?
No.
The pinstripes?
Listen.
He was hurt last year.
It's going to take him a little bit of time to kind of get back into the swing of things.
It's a long season.
Hell, he might hit two homers tomorrow.
Really?
He might not.
Let's pump the brakes on Aaron Judge, all right?
We sound, Connor and I, because how much money, I don't know about Connor,
but I do know how much money I lost.
And Connor also bet on the Yankees, which is not something he wants to do at all in his life.
But he was kind of talked into it.
I think what we were doing was literally what that Cleveland TV guy yelled at the person for calling.
You're going to judge this guy one game?
That's what we did, yeah.
And that's what baseball should be.
It should be a little bit more in-the-moment judgment instead of, hey, he's got 161 more games.
It's like, I don't.
Well, that's not what I was saying yesterday when he struck out with Ducks on the pond in the bottom of the ninth.
You know what I'm saying?
Did you guys watch that here or did you watch that here?
How was the reaction?
I was pumped.
I mean, it was awesome to watch the Yankees lose.
You lost money, though.
You bet on the Yankees.
I'd rather the Yankees lose than me win a bet.
Are you kidding me?
That's what's tough is they were the home team,
so, you know, and then the top of the 10th,
they gave up a run, and then the Yankees
didn't. So it wasn't like a bang-bang
game's over. It was kind of just like
a slow bleed out almost.
It's just unbelievable. It's stuck.
What are you going to do? I cannot believe the Yankees
stink all of a sudden.
They're terrible.
They're going to win
110 games this year.
They're the worst team
in baseball.
Don't you worry.
Don't you worry.
They're the worst team
in baseball right now.
This fucking clown
with the mustache
and he's just diarrhea
from the mouth right now.
I haven't listened
to anything he said.
It is being just a sewer
coming out of his mouth
about the Yankees.
They're in last place
right now.
So how about that? Pirates are in first by the Yankees. They're in last place right now. So how about that?
Pirates are in first, by the way.
They are.
They share first place right now.
It's a new era in the MLB.
Shout out to the Cubs.
Completely dusty.
Don't starve hot.
Don't starve hot, baby.
That's what Uke basically said, by the way.
Yeah.
Uke basically.
That's why I bet against the Red Sox today.
That's when Uke was playing.
This is a new season, boys.
We're talking about baseball in 2021.
Didn't Uke win a World Series?
Listen, that's
a whole different time. So what you're saying
it was very different baseball when you guys were winning?
It's not what the baseball currently is.
Is that why? We still won one after
you. Don't get me wrong.
We won a couple years ago. More recently than
the Yankees. I'm done talking baseball.
Let's go to JoJo in Pasadena, California.
What's going on, JoJo?
Yo, good morning.
Buenos dias.
How we doing today?
Hey, buenos dias.
Me amigo.
Me amigo.
Mon frere is French yesterday.
Francis.
I know that Spanish right there.
I read it, but chill.
Oh, okay.
Sorry, JoJo.
What do you want to talk about?
Anything but baseball, please.
Oh, for sure.
I want to talk about this idea that Jeff Bezos is going to come save the NFL.
Save?
Who said save?
I don't know.
I just hear this talk about him, but I think he needs to keep his dirty little fingers out of our game.
Whoa.
Go to space.
Do what you got to do, bud.
But I want a young Mark Cuban.
I want a young Cat McAfee.
I want a young billionaire to get in there.
I would like that as well.
That's un-American.
I would like that as well.
I heard Monopoly, pal.
Well, JoJo, the thing is Monopoly, I mean,
you just started a whole different conversation now because both Bezos and the NFL, you're talking about a couple monopolies now at this point.
But whenever you talk about a young owner and here's like a, you know,
I think a lot of people already realize this, but since you brought it up
and it's a nice little talking point, the only way you can be a young owner in the NFL
is if the team is handed down from you from your parents or whatever, if it's a legacy.
Because usually if you're going to have to be a self-made person to afford an
NFL team to be able to buy in,
a la what Mark Cuban was able to do with the Mavericks and what other business
Gary Vee allegedly wants to do with the Jets,
and I would obviously love to own an NFL team.
It's going to take some time to accrue the amount of cash to do so.
So the only real young people I think you'll ever see,
and now granted, somebody will come in and create something that's fantastic
and maybe they'll be able to do it,
but normally it takes a little bit to generate enough wealth
to be able to buy a team if you don't come from the super wealth world.
Now, with that being said bezos
is the richest man on earth he also is not nearly as old as a lot of the nfl owners are i think
getting the richest man on the planet into the league is good for the league yeah i also think
he is he's not necessarily considered old now jojo i appreciate you saying me and i i believe
there's other people that are young that are aspiring to appreciate you saying me and i i believe there's other people
that are young that are aspiring to one day get there and hopefully i'll be hey you know what
hopefully i'll be able to buy a fucking team next year yeah hell yeah it'd be awesome well you know
what why not jojo if i'm able to do that or if anybody else able to do that you know powderball
comes around some other shit happens to hit and you can do it i hope that happens but normally
it's going to take a little bit to get that type of money which is why whenever people get into ownership positions
they've been through the gamut had all their success that's why normally you hear those old
whites say fuck you to everybody about everything because of how long it's taking them to get there
now the legacies and like the spanos family that's going on with the Chargers and everything like that, that can sometimes be handed over,
and that person maybe doesn't appreciate or respect the opportunity that they have.
So maybe that's a little bit of a different thing.
But it's going to be tough to get young owners,
especially in the NFL when it's 2.2 bill, 3 bill for a team to get in there.
And even when they're passed down, like Bob Craft's son, who will take over after him, he's
50-something, but how old was Ursa
when he ended up getting the team? Wasn't he pretty young?
30-something, yeah. From his dad. He bought it for
a million bucks or something like that, or no, maybe he got
paid a million bucks. I forget what it was.
He bought it from his dad, though, yeah. He was 30-something.
That's so young. That probably won't
ever happen again. Well, maybe.
Really? Like the pass-downs,
you think? His daughters are older than that already.
Well, how old's Tony Khan?
That would be like the only one, right?
Yeah, but Shad looks like he's going to live long term.
Yeah, exactly.
It would be dope to have an NFL team, though.
Could you imagine us walking into a stadium on Sunday as the owners?
And they always do like the billionaire owner meetings on the field
where they all have their security flanking them
that were either ex-Navy SEALs or ex-whatever.
And they all kind of just walk across the field.
And, you know, one of them probably tells the other one,
hey, if you need any more friends that want to come do this job,
just tell them and say we need it or whatever.
There's been some owners that have walked across an NFL field
to come talk to Jim Irsay that have had eight to nine people flanking them and they're just walking in
the middle of a football field it's just like it's like an orb like they're the like it's literally
like these people are just orbiting around them and then they get to our sideline to talk to jim
who has his own crew with him or whatever jim had a guy, by the way, that used to just carry around a bag of money. And he was literally the bag man. It was awesome. It was like a, it was like a satin bag.
And cause Jim would just hand out hundreds to people. Like that was just one of Jim's moves
for a little bit there whenever he was really, you know, kind of, he, I think he goes in phases
of like being in public and then some, and then he stays behind the scenes,
and then everybody knows the battles that he's had or whatever.
But there was a string there where he was really up and had a lot of practices.
He was at training camp.
He was at games.
It was really awesome.
His move, he'd get that bag from that.
He would almost summon the bad guy.
The bad guy would come, and he would just start handing out hundreds to people.
That's awesome.
It was fucking electric.
He did a training camp.
You know, in training camp, aside from me and Vinny,
nobody really gets to pay attention about a lot of the shit that's going on around the field
because those night training camps, it's not like I can go over to the other field
and kick for three hours, which is how long practice.
So I'm just literally just hanging out or whatever, watching training camp happen.
And when Jim used to show up in his golf cart and there'd be like a golf cart like flank two golf carts flanking in with people his golf cart would be souped up he would get there
you could see him like have his conversations with people or whatever then he would just get
bored it seemed like and he would get in his golf cart drive over where the people are and it was
just like here's a hundred here's a hundred here's a hundred here's a hundred the place by the way everybody is just flocking yeah it was amazing to watch he asked me
to take a picture with somebody and uh it was at the warm-ups of a game it was i forget who it was
it was somebody in his circle had a child who was a fan of mine on twitter or whatever they were
they happen to be with him and he's sitting there on the sideline.
He's got his people flanking him.
And me and Vinny are just, like, sitting down, bullshit,
waiting for the warm-ups to be over or whatever.
And Jim turns around, and he walks.
He goes, brother, is there any way you could take a photo with somebody
from me or whatever?
I'm like, Jim, yeah.
Sure.
I don't know.
Jim, this whole thing is yours dude
oh you're the best they say you're like the beatles brother i want your photo and i'm like
oh yeah i don't know if that's the case but uh no problem at all he walks away and vinnie goes
uh you might be the most ridiculous fucking human i've ever said excuse me i'm gonna go take a
picture excuse me i gotta so i take the photo you know and i come back and
sit down and i think when i took the photo um me and it was a like a probably like a 13 14 year
old girl or whatever and i'm sitting there and the group of people i'm looking at it was two owners
okay standing there jim mercy had like a sport coat on, clean ass shoes, you know.
He was like, correct.
Everybody that was staring at me
was both the owners' entire entourages, basically.
And then there was like three camera people in the middle.
And our whole team is warming up behind me, right?
So at this point,
a lot of people are seeing what's going on.
So it looks like I'm posing for a photo
with somebody in front of two billionaires
and this whole crew.
Photo happens and then obviously, you know, they do a round of applause like, yeah, thank you. You know, and I two billionaires and this whole crew. Photo happens and obviously
they do a round of applause like, yeah, thank you.
I walk through and I sit down.
Then there starts to be a little bit of a trickle
of people walking. What the fuck are you?
You're taking photos of billionaires
now? I'm like, hey, listen, man.
Jim Hersey said I was like the fucking Beatles, dude.
What do you want from me? But it was those
pregame antics.
If we ever owned a team,
you can do whatever you want. They do whatever they want. grew up for me, but it was those pre-game antics. If we ever owned a team, oh,
you can do whatever you want. Oh, yeah. They do whatever they want.
They just walk in and say, they do whatever
they want. Walk, middle
of warm-ups, go shake the other coach's
hand, and the coach is like, yeah, well, shit, might need
a job someday.
Imagine if we owned a team. It would be
fucking awesome. And it is.
Obviously, that's a very early dream.
I think we are roughly 45 years away from that.
Maybe 30 years away from that.
Could be longer.
That's not bad.
Could be shorter.
Yeah.
Could be a year.
Could be a year.
True.
If one of these teams go up for sale,
and then you take your little,
take a little trip up to Silicon Valley
where all those venture capitalists are,
and you go, listen,
you guys just print money up here.
There's 70 different venture capitalist people
that all have $700 billion.
None of it makes any sense
and they're all in like the same area.
It doesn't make any,
imagine going up there
and rallying the troops
to just give you, can I just get like four billion or so it's a business
i got a good business think about it here's my business model okay we're just going to get in
the nfl and guess what it's going to work so how's that turn on the or wise would be good and if not
by the way just a drop in a bucket for you let's just keep it moving maybe we do try to set up some
meetings here and try to buy an nfl team Maybe that's the move. Walking through a cheese practice.
Hey, Pat.
Sorry.
Pat Mahomes.
Why don't you throw me a ball?
Hey, don't play catch.
I'm going to go deep.
Throw me the ball.
You know that headset?
You know that headset?
It's what?
Offense coordinator, quarterback?
Yeah.
I would like mine.
I'm in there.
I'll stop talking in 15 seconds on the play clock. But I would like at least access from my...
We need a fucking deep ball.
Can we throw a deep, please?
Hey, enough of this, huh?
And then next play, isn't that elevator straight down?
You're fired.
Give me the headset.
I'm calling plays now.
I'm the captain now.
That's what you can do.
Oh, yeah.
Out of all the owners, who would call plays?
Would Jim?
No, no. Jim's doing a halftime performance jerry's calling plays he probably is right now see al davis actually was yeah yeah
so like i think out once he passes away that doesn't happen anymore but there's there's all
those legendary stories from the coaches that like a call would come down and it was they'd
answer and it's al davis saying that something needs to happen he just like put it down you're like okay change
your gameplay i have talked to a coach before who works who had worked in the nfl as an offense
coordinator okay and this kind of sounds like me pawning off a story on somebody uh but it's
this person pretty great coach offense coordinator in the nfl has not been on this show
okay so i'm trying to the night before a game saturday got a call from the owner of the team
he was working for and the owner of the team for one out this is saturday night after team meetings
this is 10 30 11 o'clock at night. Gets an entire hour-long conversation.
Starts out as, how you doing?
Full convo. Then it slowly
goes into a particular draft
choice that was drafted
in the first round. And then it
was, feels like tomorrow
is a good time for this person to
kind of weave through a
conversation. And the offense coordinator
had to change the entire fucking thing before Sunday morning.
He just had to add like seven plays.
He was like, boys, here you go.
This is this whole thing.
I mean, I was not there, but I imagine that was an electric factory.
And I'm like, if I'm the owner, I mean, potentially earlier than Saturday night.
Oh, yeah.
Probably a few more than seven plays, too.
Hey, on Wednesday.
Hey, listen, I drafted the guy for a reason.
Let's fucking get him the ball.
You remember the annexation of Puerto Rico?
Make his fucking ass last.
Run it.
Let's go.
Did it work?
I don't know.
I didn't follow up.
Oh, okay.
So probably not.
They were explaining their life to me.
I was like, what's it like?
You're just playing Madden, but for real.
I was asking, and they're like, yeah, it's not like that at all.
And I'm like, well, quick story.
That's a quick story.
Saturday night after team meeting, after snack, after everything,
get a call from the owner telling me this player basically needs to fucking play,
and we need to do it.
Sunday morning, had to change the entire thing.
Zero sleep going into a big game.
Awesome.
Are you kidding me?
That's the NFL, by the way, and if you coach for our team that we own,
that shit's happening.
Do you think Bezos would be a guy that would do that?
Because it seems like he's almost so rich that he's not going to be involved in any of the day-to-day stuff.
You know what I mean?
It's just another asset.
He doesn't give a fuck about the football team.
I think Bezos is coming out, giving a speech to the team
every once in a while after practice.
You know, when Irv Stey would come to our practice
and then give a speech to the team afterwards, it was always...
Give you a little fire?
No.
Well, I mean, you know how I feel.
Of course.
But my take on speeches is I'm just listening to the person speak.
I enjoy seeing how humans speak, especially who are...
Like Roger Goodell.
Me watching Roger Goodell speak at that thing
in our team meeting room whenever
the lockout was happening and he was trying
to just not answer any questions, deflect
everything. I was like, God, that guy's a good
speaker or whatever. Head coaches giving
team meetings, you know, I'm watching
like I've told Chuck, like, yeah,
pretty good meeting there. Yeah, the performance.
I judge the performance, not so
much like, you know what I mean,
which probably not the right way to look at things,
probably not a good person to be in the audience whenever you're speaking
or whatever, but I'm fascinated how people get their messages across.
When Jim would come talk, it was always like a high level.
It was always a high level conversation about the Colts,
the history of the Colts, where he's been,
what he wants to do with that whole thing.
I would assume Bezos would come in and give a pretty high level.
Same thing.
It would be like, hey, our business, we need to do this type thing.
I think if you buy a team, you're only buying a team so you can go to the games
and hang out at the practices and kind of be a part of it.
Yeah.
But maybe Bezos just buys it and says,
this is just something that's guaranteed to make money because the CBA says we have to.
Right.
And then now, you know, you guys' games are going to be coming through my platform either.
So just a nice little one-two punch.
You're welcome for being on this team.
Yeah.
You're playing on my network.
You're on my team in my stadium.
Basically, I could buy this whole fucking league if I wanted to.
Yeah.
Every league.
That stadium.
Good luck on that.
Good luck on that.
He would reset the standards on practice facilities, stadiums.
It would be awesome.
That's where he would really show his skill.
It would be great to have Bezos in the NFL.
Yeah.
All the other owners would hate him, though.
It'd be good for business.
Maybe Jerry and Kraft and the guys that are really calling the shots business-wise.
Maybe they'll enjoy him because, you know, business mind.
But, man, whenever he starts just shitting on everybody else's everything because he can't,
he can buy the NFL, the NBA, and something else right now if he wanted to
and still be one of the richest humans to ever exist.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure it was every team in every professional sports league in the United States.
And still be a top 50 richest person of all time.
Jesus Christ.
That's wild. Hey hey good for you man
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No.
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Well, if it starts around 30,
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Hilarious show thus far.
Had the return of a character last hour got a chance to chat with
Him about us getting April Fool's pranked
How did we
Let that happen boys
That's on me
Yeah but
I mean you were probably the one
That sent in the group which
That group text is a ongoing
List of things to potentially talk about On a day-to-day or whatever.
It's a beautiful message board in there, basically.
Oh, yeah.
You know, with a lot of tweets getting sent and things like that.
But normally when it gets sent in there, I see it.
All right, I see it.
And then normally I do my own, let me click, let me go see what's going on.
Sure, sure.
Let me get the response.
Like, I do that.
I'm on my phone a lot in this particular profession.
With that one, I shamed it.
I clicked on it.
I think Dana answered.
Yes.
I was so excited.
I was so pumped.
I was so thankful.
Like, okay, Bones is back.
I just completely let down my entire guard, I think.
And also, I mean, it was the next day.
It was April 2nd when I read it.
So I had my guard down. So this is allegedly just an
April Fool's prank, and Bones actually tweeted out moments before tweeting this
one out that it's actually 1142 here where I'm at right now.
And the next tweet was this one. And that was him basically saying, it's still
April Fool's Day, isn't it, over here where I'm at? So he got us. We talked to
Ariel about that. Ariel broke the news to us that that was that.
And that's kind of tough letting him get a win.
Yeah, it's a real bummer.
Yeah, but if it happens, then, you know, we were right.
He'll want he was wrong.
Exactly.
True.
If they potentially come to an agreement here in the next couple days,
we knew it all along.
Exactly.
But we did get got.
That's going to happen in this game.
You just got to get yours more than you got got, though.
And I think we've had, you know, some good conversations this week about a lot of things.
We have a guest joining us here momentarily that I cannot wait to chat with.
And whenever he was in Minnesota as a Viking, I think he was one of the most talked about defensive backs in the entire NFL.
And something happened at the end of Minnesota run.
The Colts signed him.
Chris Ballard brings him over.
Last year, dominant. Yeah. Hell of a player. Absolute end of Minnesota run. The Colts signed him. Chris Ballard brings him over. Last year, dominant.
Hell of a player.
Absolute hell of a player.
Hell of a player as soon as he gets to Indianapolis.
It was awesome to see.
It was great for the Indianapolis Colts.
Just recently, he signed a one-year deal to come back to the Indianapolis Colts.
So we don't know if that's for another year to potentially try to get to free agency,
which I think if he continues to play how he's been playing,
he will be able to get paid from somebody.
But Xavier Rhodes, I'm very pumped to hear about everything going on in his world.
He's not on.
Come on, Xavier.
I was trying to draw out the intro as much as possible.
Literally, I was trying my absolute best.
The thing I did miss is he was first-round pick back in 2013 out of Florida State.
That's right.
Three-time Pro Bowler, first-team All-Pro, hell of a football player,
just signed back with the Indianapolis Colts.
He's still not on.
I was about to go through it again.
He played against Aaron Rodgers.
This guy knows what it's like to step on a football field with Aaron Rodgers playing.
He's been around now for a long time.
Former first-round draft pick in 2013.
Has had a resurgence in Indianapolis as a member of an incredible Colts defense
that Matt Eberflus is in charge of.
He's signed a one-year deal to come back to Indianapolis just recently.
Ladies and gentlemen, Xavier Rhodes.
Yeah!
How you doing, dude?
I'm doing great, man. Can't complain. Life is great.
Hey, congrats on another year deal.
I'm not 100% sure if that's what you were thinking you were going to sign
or what you were going to get into, but as a Colt fan, I'm pumped you're back.
I'm happy to be back with the Colt Nation, you know, horseshoe.
Now, when you come to Indianapolis, you know, because nobody –
I think whenever you got to Indianapolis, a lot of people are,
okay, Xavier Rhodes, holy shit, we got a great player here.
Then you think about, you know, some things maybe weren't perfect in Minnesota.
What has it been like in Indy, though, for this?
It feels like you're back to being top of your game.
Like, in your prime right now, it feels like here, whenever you're seeing your career,
it was so damn good.
It feels like you're playing better than ever.
What has it been about the Colts that has made you, is it the leadership role that you
automatically fall into?
Is it the defense?
What is it, you think? Confidence. You know, playing DB, you know, it the leadership role that you automatically fall into? Is it the defense? What is it you think?
Confidence.
You know, playing DB, you know, it's all about confidence,
having confidence to go into that game,
knowing you can do your job the best way you can,
and, you know, just going out there with just the confidence,
knowing you can win each and every down.
And those guys believed in me, and I felt they believed in me.
The coaches showed that they believed in me, and they told me each and every day. And those guys believed in me, and I felt they believed in me. The coaches showed that they believed in me.
And they told me each and every day, like, we're going to help you get back
to your ability to do what you was before.
And we're just going to build this confidence in you,
have you not worry about anything out there on the field.
That's really cool of you to say, by the way.
Really cool of you to say.
We appreciate that.
Was there things that were happening?
Was it on the field confidence, off the field? What was it? Was it a combination of
things? What do you think it really was? I mean, it was more off, you know, and I had to deal with
off the field with family issues and me personally. And, you know, that triggered in with football
and a lot happened once that happened.
Everything was just a domino effect from there.
Okay, so whenever you get, by the way,
thank you for telling this.
It's very fucking cool to hear this.
And I think a lot of people will learn from this
that, hey, you know, even the best athletes on earth
sometimes deal with some shit and go through some shit.
So I appreciate you saying that.
Frank Reich, has he been a big part of this whole thing?
Because, for instance, Carson Wentz seems to be a guy in Philadelphia
where he wasn't playing his best football.
Seems like confidence, if you watch his game, was the type of thing.
Now he just said he kind of needs something new.
They say Frank Reich is a guy that when you're in there, is it Frank?
Is it the culture?
What is it about Indianapolis that really had you kind of turn it all around?
It's both, man.
Frank, he's going to let you be you.
You know, he's going to make you go out there and play, give everything out there on that field, man.
You can see it out there with the players.
We run to the ball.
We play hard.
The offensive players, they're running routes as hard as they can. I mean, they fight for every yard on the players. We run to the ball. We play hard. The offensive players, they run in routes as hard as they can.
I mean, they fight for every yard on the field.
On the defensive side of the ball, we strip the ball.
We try to create turnovers.
We run to the ball.
As you can see, we run to the ball each and every day.
Yeah, it's a race.
Yeah, it is a race.
See who can get to the ball first.
See who can strip the ball first.
We compete in everything, you know.
And not only on offensive defense.
You see on special teams.
Them guys are out there hustling, running, tackling.
You know, every man, every 11 players are to the ball.
And that's what they preach.
And that's what we do each and every day at practice.
Darius Leonard said, I think it was on this show,
when there was a potential, you know,
at the beginning of this free agency, the tampering period, which you were experiencing
in your own right, but there were some big names that were out there, like big name defensive
players.
J.J. Watt was available at the time.
I mean, there was a bunch of people that were potential free agents and the Colts who have
a lot of money.
Obviously, a lot of people are thinking, well, the Colts are going to sign all these big
name players, both defense, offense, everybody everybody they're potentially going to make moves and Darius said
hey if you're going to come to this team like you're going to have to work like this this is
not a this is no vacation you know if you're going to join our team you're going to come work it feels
like with what you just said there's a lot of pride on that defensive side of the ball like
hey we're a hard-working badass group on defensive side of the ball. Like, hey, we're a hardworking, badass group on the defensive side of the ball
that can win a Super Bowl if we have to, huh?
Yeah, I mean, what Darius said is right.
But also, I can speak on every team.
I've been on another team, and we work there too.
It's just the attitude you bring on that field.
It's just that camaraderie you have on that field,
being able to – be with the coach
and being able to just go
each and every day and working
hard. I mean, being on that team,
you're going to work.
It ain't no if, ands, buts about it. You're going to
work every day.
You just got to have that mentality as in
like, man, today is going to be the
day I got to work and I can't complain.
I can't whine. I can't do anything.
It's just I got to grind through it.
Every day is a hard day.
There's no easy days with the coach.
And then with that being said, you know, that mentality is like, all right, cool.
During the week, it's going to be hard.
But on game day, it's going to be the day I can be able to relax and chill
because it's going to come smooth and easy for us
because we work so hard during the week.
Corners obviously have to run a lot.
I mean, that is – do they put the tracking on you?
And have you been told how, like, a distance you have ran in a practice
or in a training camp or anything like that?
Yeah, I can't tell you.
I can't remember, man.
It came to a point I just didn't want to know.
Because I think that was the big thing.
Because before, you were around when they didn't have those, right?
I mean, that was, then the science came in and it was like, okay, we're going to put these trackers.
When I was introduced, they actually described it as Soviet satellites.
That said, Soviet satellites is how it was described.
I'm like, oh, my.
Old Russians are involved in this?
Like, what is going on?
And then, like, the data.
They were like, do you know that InterName here runs six miles at practice every single day?
Maybe we should dial it back a little bit.
Because there, for a while, nobody had a clue the exact amount of you know
how much running was happening then they started putting those trackers on and they're like whoa
we need to we need to potentially save the quarters you were you kind of played through
that whole process right did that change anything for you uh it ain't changed nothing
you're running huh you're gonna work you to work. You're going to run.
I mean, you can't dictate.
You can't really prepare for the game because you don't know.
You never know how the game is going to go.
So, in practice, they just try to manage the mouths
or the workload throughout the week to get you to the point to function
and play fast and play free on game day.
But, I mean, you can't manage
how hard and how fast a game
or how long you've been playing a game. You might
play in a game and be
going overtime twice.
You know, overtime games. Or
it might be a
defensive game where there's a lot of hit
and a lot of running. Or it might be an offensive game
where there's a lot of running. You just never know. But it might be an offensive game where there's a lot of running. You know, you just never know.
But you just always try to prepare yourself throughout the week
and try to assimilate that game for that week.
Do you stay in shape?
Are you training all year round?
Do you take downtime?
Like right now, are you in the middle of obviously getting back into shape
or just staying in shape?
No, I'm in shape.
I mean, I work all day every day.
No, I'm in shape.
I mean, I work all day, every day.
I mean, this year, I would say this year, you know, with COVID last year and how long we was able to stay and work out, I didn't take any time off.
No time.
Like during COVID last year, I had me a private trainer,
and we found a field.
We found – he had his own private gym, you know, just me and private trainer and we found a field. We found, we had,
he had his own private gym
and just me and him and we was working
each and every day and I didn't stop.
You know, I worked out
every day. Did you like that?
Did you like that offseason where you got to control
more? Because I think that's something that they're pitching
for the future here.
Oh yeah, I mean, but then again, you know, you
have, I mean, you have different people,
different strokes
from different folks.
You know, some people,
like, they need to be monitored.
You know, they need to be pushed.
Do you have some
that can just do it on their own?
I mean, but then again,
I don't know.
For me, I don't need to be monitored.
I'm going to work
each and every day.
I don't, I don't, I don't,
I've been in the league
long enough to know
what I can and cannot do. I know my body. I know how hard i can push my body how far i can go i don't know
what can help help me recover faster so it's like i don't need anyone to monitor me because i learned
like the years playing in the field what's good for me yeah and i think a lot of vets feel that
way and i do believe if there was to be a vote, there's a lot of, I think there would
be a separation in age on who would
want what, and that was kind of like the last CBA that
was being talked about, too. Everybody kind of
puts that in a thing, but the people that last
are the faces of the game. I think they should have
a little bit more say in a lot of things.
We're talking Xavier Rhodes, three-time
pro bowler, all-pro, corner for the Colts, just
signed a one-year deal. Who's
somebody, who's a wide receiver you played against that you will always,
you know, when you have the conversation, that you have to rank next to?
Like, who was the best person that you played against?
Now, Grant, I know everybody has different styles,
but in your illustrious career here, who is somebody you played against
that was just like, well, that guy fucked me up a little bit?
Oh, man, it's a few of them, man.
I can give you,
I can't just give you one.
Okay.
I just,
I'm going to give you a few.
I'm going to spitball a few.
Calvin Johnson was one.
Hilarious.
Was that just hilarious?
Huh?
Was he just hilarious
to play against?
Bigger, stronger, faster,
what in God?
Everything seemed like
the nicest guy of all time, too.
Nicely, I don't mean,
he didn't say nothing.
Just ball. Yeah, I was when Julio was another. Devante Adams. Oh, God.
Devante Adams, Antonio Brown. Michael Thomas, that was a
battle.
Do they talk?
Are you a talker?
Is it quiet?
No.
You?
Until then, I'm not going to say because I'm a talker.
Oh, so you do.
Yeah, yeah.
You talk a lot of shit out there, huh?
Is that early?
Is that early?
Do you do research on them going into the game for your verbal assault
that's potentially going to happen in there?
No, I don't really talk.? No, I don't really talk.
I mean, I don't really talk.
To me personally, I don't know.
Like I say, difference goes for different folks.
Me personally, what I believe in, the best don't talk trash.
The best just go out there and play.
You know, they just stand there.
They just go in there and play their game.
And watching film is my talk.
You know, when you watch film on me, you're going to know what you're going up against.
You know what I'm saying?
That's how I talk.
You know what I'm saying?
Because I know this week, you know what I'm saying, the next opponent is going to watch that film.
They're going to watch.
You know what they say, your best game is your last.
So they're going to watch your last game, and they're going to determine you and how to beat you off your last game.
So it's like that's how I play.
That's how I play. That's how I play. I play in that moment, but also in the back of my head,
like next week I'm going to play against this team
and they're going to watch this film
and try to depict the weaknesses of that film.
Man, I never did any of that.
It probably could have been a lot better if I had to guess.
What do you have, Connor?
Yeah, Xavier, there's a proposal going around now for DBs
to be able to wear single-digit numbers.
Is that something you're interested in, and would you change your number?
I don't care.
I don't care about that.
I mean, you make the number, the number don't make you, man.
That's always been my motto.
Yeah, but, I mean, a defensive end or outside linebacker with a single-digit
number, you immediately go, oh, he used to be
in a skill position. That guy used to,
that guy, that's a thought, isn't it?
So, growing up, it's just
like, you see a D lineman
with a number one, oh, he must be good.
Like, don't have one on his back,
oh, he must be the best player on the team.
You know, that's what, that's just a
mind-mental thing, you know what I'm saying? So, that's all it is, but for me. That's just a mind mental thing.
That's all it is. But for me,
I don't really care for it.
You said bullshit.
That's what you said. It's all bullshit.
I didn't say that. Don't put words in my mouth.
See that going out in the public.
TY
comes back to the Colts as well for another year
did you know about him before you came to indianapolis i would assume you did um but
he's not like media wise not nationally known i don't think but around the league i feel like he
has a pretty good respect from a lot of people what are your thoughts on ty and obviously are
you excited he's back as an Indianapolis Colt?
I mean, yeah, I'm excited he's back, man.
He's a big part of Indy.
Like, to me personally, he's Indy.
You know, he's been in Indy his whole career.
He has broken some records.
He done done things a lot of very few receivers able to do there.
It's been a few that broke.
He still have to reach some milestones from previous receivers.
But also, he just did great there.
I feel like it's awesome for him to come back to the Colt Nation and to the family
and finish out there if he continues out playing.
Do you guys one-on-ones?
Do we one-on-ones? Yeah.
I mean, yeah, we go against each other
in practice. Yeah, yeah. How is that?
Because I do know, I believe he's a pretty competitive human.
I'd assume you are as well.
There's no one's competitive.
Yeah, yeah.
I would assume that's the case.
We can't thank you enough for joining us here. Did I hear a ghost
in the background there?
Was that a...
A ghost?
Well, it sounded like a yell, a shriek there in the background.
Oh, that was my daughter.
It was your daughter?
Yeah, I'm surprised she didn't bust in here
hearing me talking and start warning her.
How old?
She's three.
Oh, nice.
So at that age, you're going to have to forgive me.
I don't know the humans at that age.
Full conversations, yeah?
Can you kind of get a vibe for what she's going to do?
At that age, her favorite word is no, and she'll do what she wants.
Sounds like a great time.
Well, I'm happy you said yes to the Colts.
I'm having a vacation right now.
Talking to us right now?
We can extend this if you'd like to just kind of spend some more time away.
Where do you stay?
Where do you stay?
Where do you stay?
Where do you stay?
Where?
Florida.
Is it just wide open down there, by the way?
I just hear it's open down there.
Is that true or is that not true?
It's, I mean,
come down and see for yourself, man. You might
have a good time, you might not. You want to wear a mask?
Go come down here.
Ladies and
gentlemen, Xavier Rhodes.
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Let's get back to the show.
That's right.
Today's the day that Jesus died.
R.I.P.
Today's the day that Jesus died. And they were singing bye-bye
Jesus Christ.
That's what they said.
And then a couple days later, he came up out of the cave,
said, I'm back, bitch. And that's what Easter is
on Sunday. We hope you have a fantastic
Good Friday. We hope you have
an amazing Easter Sunday.
And we can't wait for you to listen to
another hour in 57 minutes of complete bullshit about sports at Boston Connors here.
Ty Schmidt is here.
Aviva Lozito is here.
The boys in the back are here as well.
Hour One saw us talk about the Chicago Bears.
Ryan Pace, Matt Nagy spoke to the media.
We learned a lot of things.
We also talked about Bezos potentially becoming an owner in the NFL
and what that would mean.
We talked about a lot of things,
but we did not chat about the rule changes that came to be this week in the NFL.
17-game season happening.
Let's go.
We talked during the break.
Our predictions for the Chicago Bears record next year.
I said, you know, still got Aaron in there in my head immediately.
Still going to have to figure some things out.
And I said, you know, my first thought was probably going to go 500.
So I said eight, and then I, whoo, in the middle of it.
I was like, no, whoa, whoa.
So eight and nine was my immediate thought.
But that sounds much worse than 9-8
And you know what sounds even worse than that
Is what some prediction at the toxic table was
7-10
Think about how bad it sounds
When your team wins 7 games
Instead of it being 7-9
Which is bad
But everybody's like average
Next year there's going to be a team that goes 7-10
And it's going to sound fucking terrible.
Terrible.
It is very.
Now, listen.
One more game for players.
It might as well be 10 more games because their body, obviously,
they're not happy about this.
Fans, for good reason.
They're only making, by the way, and by only,
it's a lot of money by any other standard,
but also what they do for a living is high risk, and there's also a lot of people that watch it, and there are not a lot of money by any other standard. But also what they do for a living is high risk.
And, you know, there's also a lot of people that watch it.
And there are not a lot of people watching people do other jobs that don't make as much money.
So it is a little bit different.
So it's difficult to judge what they're getting paid versus what somebody else is getting paid who has a much more important job.
So I'm about done with that.
But the one 17th bonus that they get for the 17th game so that you just get paid the same exact amount the
entire time brilliant agreement or whatever but that 17th game didn't earn the nfl just one 17th
more that 17th game added a lot of money there so the nfl wins again in that entire business thing
but for fans this is awesome like 17 games is awesome. We got
the 17th game weekend,
which is supposed to be a showcase weekend where
teams will be playing other high.
It's going to be massive AFC, NFC.
How you doing? Keep it moving. Doesn't happen,
but once every four years normally it'll be happening
every single... Then there's super
wildcard weekend where they added
two more games to that
weekend. Then we get into the playoffs.
I mean, this is a dream come true for the back end of this football season.
And it's only a matter of time before they potentially add another playoff team
on both sides, right?
Yes.
And we kind of just keep making that weekend a little bit longer and longer.
And Friday night kicks off, wildcard weekend.
I know they have an agreement with high school football or whatever,
but at that point high school football is over. So most high school football is over. So you they have an agreement with high school football or whatever, but at that point, high school football is over.
So most high school football is over.
So you could have an entire – yeah, it's only a matter of time.
By the way, players are in on this because it's another check.
More teams in the playoffs.
The only people that will be mad are the teams that are normally high-seeded.
They're like, why are we letting anybody in, this whole thing.
But that will be an easy sell for the players.
Hey, another playoff check for four more teams here.
Another opportunity.
That is to go on a run to win
a Super Bowl. That'll be an easy pass.
The NFL knows that. It's only a matter
of time before the showcase week,
then super
wildcard weekend, and then the play.
I mean, it's only a matter of time before that just
becomes an absolute feeding
frenzy. Media rights deals and everything like that.
And even for the higher seeds, too.
Like the two-seat didn't have a buy this year.
But if they were to add that eighth team, then all of a sudden the one and the two get a buy again, right?
So they would even like that a little bit.
Yeah.
Now, granted, they're not getting money, I don't think, that weekend.
But they do get a buy, which is great news for them.
And the money goes up the next week, I think, yeah.
If you don't play it, I don't think you get the check.
Huh.
I think. This feels...
I was in the playoffs a lot. I was in the playoffs a lot.
But I only had a bye week, I think,
once or twice in the playoffs.
I don't recall. And the one was my
rookie year, and there's no way I remember.
You know, the only thing I remember is that our playoff
checks were the exact same. Me and Peyton were making
the same exact money amount How about that
Off the field he was making a lot more
But obviously and everything like that
But for that game, for me to come out there two times
Me and Peyton making the same exact amount of money
That was awesome
But I don't recall if they pay the bi-week or not
I think they don't because you're not working
So I think you don't get it
And then it goes up the next weekend
But the 17 game ruling is huge
Just the optically
The sound, 7 and 10 sounds terrible
That sounds brutal
8 and 9 sounds
Terrible
And then 9 and 8 it's like
But 10 and 7
That doesn't even really sound
That's a fringe playoff
You gotta go 11-6.
You've got to go 12-5.
12 wins is a huge amount of wins.
Now it's like 12-5.
It's like, okay, I'm a football team.
Pretty good team.
It is.
It is.
That's just one game, and they'll do this again, by the way.
We'll have 18 games at some point.
1978 until now, the fact that it stayed at 16 games is,
especially with how much we see they profit off of everything i guess with the resurgence of media rights just being diversified with streaming and
everything i assume there will never be another stay in the league at all you know guys change
jersey numbers so you can resell jerseys right i know what I mean? Apple Chargers. Like everything.
I assume the NFL will go to 18 games so they can redo the media rights at some point.
Now, I'm not saying it'll be within the next year or two,
but 10 years from now when that next CBA is potentially up
or 12 years from now, they'll just add one in there, add a buy.
Now Apple, Amazon, Netflix, everybody has it.
They're going to be able to generate enough product where they can just rake in all of
the cash.
The $250 million salary cap in the next four to five years that Pellicero, who literally
speaks for the NFL, said it's definitely going to happen.
That's just going to continue to go.
I mean, it's good for everybody.
It's good for fans.
Players initially aren't going to like it.
But I think the amount of money that is about to come from this 17 game jump is going to make the NFL go if we had a buy in another game that's 20 weeks
of football just regular season we have we can resell I think it's going to happen again and I
think that's why this 17 game season is such a big deal because I think this is going to be like
a gateway drug for the NFL to realize they can do remedia deals.
And there's going to be more people, more games, more wildcard weekend.
It just feels like this is potentially going to lead into some more shit, which is good for fans, good for media.
The players, their bodies are going to have to figure it out.
But the money also is going to go up for that whole thing as well.
Yeah, because even though it was a 10-year deal on those, didn't they have outs after a couple years?
It's not ironclad.
It was definitely negotiable to move around.
So there's three years or two years left, three years left of Thursday Night Football and Fox.
But they can get in there in a year from now and renegotiate that.
And then it's an 11-year deal worth $110 million.
But after seven years, a lot of those deals are potentially renegotiated or out.
I think after six years, there's a chance
they left themselves a lot of...
We'll be back.
Hey, you. Dish.
You guys...
Six years from now, you guys going to...
You guys going to be in?
No, probably not, right? What are you guys saying?
Our projections say we're good for at least another
11. The NFL's like, cool, all right, fucking six years from now,
we would like to potentially get a renegotiation in there.
So I think that is why the 17 thing is such a big deal.
There was other rules proposed.
We do not know if the sky judge was voted upon
or what the outcome was for that.
Hopefully we get that.
There was other things pitched by.
The Rams pitched something that would have directly helped them last year, I guess.
So they pitched a rule change for
a double throw, basically. If you throw,
it gets batted. You catch it.
They want to change the throw from being a penalty
to a replay.
There's a bunch of bullshit going on, but there
is a couple very important things.
The 17-game one, I think, is the most
important one. Overtime potentially
changing, which is another conversation, and the onside kick are two other ones that are important. Everything else, I think, is the most important one. Overtime potentially changing, which is another conversation,
and the onside kick are two other ones that are important.
Everything else, I think, is stuff that isn't really –
it doesn't even really have a lot of sizzle.
No.
A lot of like, hey, here's a lot of sizzle.
The sizzle is the 17, the OT, and the potential sky judge.
You think that because of the 18 games, possibly two bye weeks,
within the next 10 years,
you think preseason will also probably be scrapped?
Two games, I think, where if you have a certain amount of years in the NFL,
you're not allowed to play in them.
It'll be a whole thing.
I don't have my years in, but I'm getting a lot of points.
I think that is going out of hour one, we said somebody's dad wouldn't let him on
to come out and play.
Like we were kids, you knock on your neighbor,
he's not allowed.
No, not today. Shuts the door.
It's like, what the hell happened over there?
You know what I mean?
This is kind of the same situation.
Had to ask, make sure everything's kosher.
Dad, come on.
Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now,
the worst human on earth area, Hawaii.
Yeah.
Got it.
Cool plans.
Was that dope back there?
Apologize, Patrick. Apologize not to me, but to your listeners who you've lied to for the last
few weeks apologize to them right now what am i what am i apologizing for apologize for making
up stories apologize for what you just said apologize okay because you turn my banning
of the patrick mcafee show into some other media hubbub. Tell the people the truth.
Tell them the truth about the greatest guests in the history of this program. Tell them the truth
about one half of the ESPN tag team broadcast. Tell them the truth about how many times you've texted me and begged me to come back and begged me to save your show and begged me to save this rinky-dink operation that you call a program.
Tell them what I did to you.
Okay.
Are you done?
I'm not done. I will never be done because the PR tour that you have gone on over the past few weeks was
pathetic, was sad,
was a new low, especially for
you. Tell the people
how many times you called me and
begged me to lift the band
and allow you to
have me back on your program. Go ahead.
Tell them right now. Tell the world.
Tell the world.
Stop lying to the public.
Are you hiding?
Are you scared to get on?
Are you scared?
Are you scared to get on?
Is that what that was?
I thought you were scared to show your face.
Are you scared to show your face right now?
Patrick, I've never been scared.
I will be scared of no man.
I need to speak to my good friend, A.J. Hawk.
Put A.J. up on the screen right now.
A.J.'s on vacation.
Where is he? He's on vacation.
I want to say something to AJ Hawk right now.
Well, AJ, hold on, though. AJ works
every day, though. You know, since
the ban that you got placed
on yourself by the company, you
are one half of the tag team. Patrick,
we're not getting into this because you're
creating a story out of nothing.
No, okay.
I banned you. No,, okay. I banned you, Patrick.
I banned you.
No, my ban.
I banned you.
No, no, no, Ariel.
I banned you.
I banned you. I was tired of the late payments.
I was tired of the lies.
But I want to talk to A.J. Hawk here for a second because when you made up your whole little story, what was the first thing that A.J. said?
He did ask.
Does that include Ariel?
Yeah. He did ask. Does that include Ariel?
He did ask.
You're the man. AJ,
you will never hear a negative thing out of this mouth about you
again. Patrick over there,
we got a beef. We got an issue.
He tried to call up someone who pretended to be me.
He tried to do
a whole little gimmick, Patrick.
A whole little gimmick. I'm on whole little gimmick I'm on to you.
But, AJ, me and you, I think it's thieves.
You're the man, AJ.
I'm kind of disappointed you're not here to talk to the champ
because make no mistake about it, the corporate champ is here.
I want to let you know I'm happy you brought the mask out of retirement.
We saw the in-memoriam tweet you put out. I want to let you know I'm happy you brought the mask out of retirement.
We saw the in memoriam tweet you put out.
It was something we were all very sad.
And I'm thankful that I lifted the ban against you guys to come on to the PN, the Pat Network.
Yeah, just the PN. Can you come on today?
Is it okay if you can face us with your presence today?
We have Xavier Woods on.
He's part of New Day.
No one cares.
Can you talk to us about something other than the NFL drafts?
Xavier Rhodes.
Xavier Rhodes is coming on the show.
Can you bring some entertainment back to this boring show?
Oh, my God.
I don't have enough cut-off T-shirts.
I can't talk about gambling all day long.
Can you come save us, Helwani?
He Helwani saves you anytime he wants to save you, Patrick.
And so I accept your apology.
And here I am.
What do you want to talk about?
What do you want to talk about?
I don't gots all day, my friend.
You want to talk UFC?
You want to talk my hit show on ESPN Plus?
What is it that you want to talk about, Patrick?
I heard.
I did hear.
What about this shiny belt?
I mean, you talk about a belt right here.
You talk about a belt.
The Can-Am connection.
Daniel Cormier and I.
The ESPN broadcast tag team champions of the world.
What kind of rinky-dink operation belt is that?
Is that a fake WBC belt?
What is that?
This is the NFL, the biggest league on earth, taking down the NBA
in golf, pal. I was part of the team.
Look at this.
Look at this. You wish. You wish.
Hey, get up. Can you have me
on your show so I can get one of these?
Maybe one day when we ever
see each other in person.
You took down Stephen A. and Max Kellerman?
That's the closest you'll ever come
to gold, to ever come to some kind of trophy. Hey, you and DC took down Stephen A. and Max Kellerman? You're the closest you'll ever come to gold, to ever come to some kind of trophy.
You and DC took down Stephen A. and Max?
I doubt it.
I doubt it.
What do you mean?
This right here says that we did.
What do you mean?
This right here says that we did.
What more do you need?
I don't know how to scrap this thing.
The Can-Am connection.
I mean, look at this detail that they gave us.
Logo right here.
Look at that.
Who bought that for you?
Flags right here.
Who bought that for you?
What's that?
Who bought that?
The brass.
The powers that be.
Oh, that's why they had to lay off everybody?
Yeah.
They're buying these fucking rinky-dinky belts around here?
What is going on?
A lot of great people lost gigs over there that I have a lot of respect for
to pay for your little stupid fake-ass belt.
That's a shame.
What's fake about it?
That's a shame.
That is a shame that that is where most say they prefer to put their attention.
Here we go with the rumors and innuendo.
So what do you want?
What do you want?
Here we are.
I've come and saved the show.
I've been watching from afar.
It's been a pathetic month for the program.
All the crying and the whining.
Oh, they won't let us have.
What do you want?
Now you get me on?
And this is how you waste my time?
We were not doing that.
What's that, Bob?
What's that?
Well, what I was saying was the program that was crying and whining about this whole thing was not this program.
Actually, this program was the complete opposite direction.
They expected this to happen, by the way, because, you know, when you come on here, you're good.
When you're on TV, which you haven't been, by the way, I think since the band started.
We have not seen it.
Your Francis Ngannou interview I saw.
I saw that got quoted.
You're boring me, Patrick.
No, you disappeared.
You disappeared.
We thought you wanted the hibernation.
We thought they were like, oh, the old hibernating Helwani here
He's going to take three weeks off
You haven't been on the show
Nobody knew you were even still doing anything
Your fans have been very kind
They have sent me a lot of nice messages
And said please save the show
SOS
Save our show
You are so great Helwani
What a star
What a backdrop you have
Beautiful plants What a great you have. Beautiful plants.
What a great guest. You bring
vibrations on a Friday. Hiyawani
Fridays. Something we love. Good
Shabbos to you all. As I said, guys,
listen. Listen.
I'm not doing things for free anymore, okay?
And when you're sleeping in
satin sheets, Patrick, you don't get out
of bed, you know, for a little
FaceTime call with the Jabrons
in Indiana.
I just want to let the world know
we cleared it up.
We've come to terms on a great long-term
deal. My agent spoke to your
agent. Thank you very much, and I'm very
happy with the agreement.
Let's get down to business.
Also, I would like to say
I am thankful for real for to say, I am thankful.
Okay, for real for a second.
I'm thankful that your parents allowed you to come on the show.
Okay, I'm thankful.
My parents live in Montreal.
What are you talking about?
How dare you speak of Mr. and Mrs. Helwani like that?
No, we're not talking about those things.
We're talking about your daddy.
We're talking about your daddy.
Is that what we're talking about?
And please tell your daddy and mommy
that we say
thank you, daddy.
Thank you, mommy daddy.
Thank you, mommy daddy.
Thank you, mommy daddy.
Thank you, mommy daddy.
Thank you, mommy daddy.
Thank you, mommy daddy.
Thank you, mommy daddy.
Thank you, mommy daddy.
Thank you, mommy daddy. Thank you, mommy daddy. Thank you. Thank you.
Come on.
You can cry.
You can cry.
You can go be entertained.
For the first time in three years.
Go ahead.
Be somebody that's worth being on television for the first time in a month.
Go ahead and do it.
Thank you, Mommy, Daddy, for letting the champ back out of the house.
One of us is a linear TV star.
The other is a YouTube star.
And that sure as heck ain't me, bub.
Golly.
I don't see.
Hey, I looked on my TV guide earlier this morning.
I ain't seen no Patrick McAfee show.
You're wrong, actually. Yeah.
Shut up.
Shut up.
Shut up.
You're wrong, pal.
I did see it.
I don't know what you're talking about over there in Indiana,
but I know that right here things are good.
I wish I could say it's been nice to talk to you guys again, but it hasn't.
I'm disappointed that AJ tucked tail once again,
even though I was here to actually extend an all-around.
I thought you were going to be friends with him.
I thought you were going to be friends with AJ.
Yeah, well, where is he?
I mean, here, I guess I found out that I was back,
that the band was lifted on my part, and he ran away.
Okay, well, I'm thankful that, you back, that the band was lifted on my part, and he ran away. Okay.
Well, I'm thankful that, you know, you're here.
Okay.
We're thankful for whatever happened.
You got here.
Now, can we talk a little bit about...
It was a great deal.
I'm happy with the terms.
I don't know what your terms are with your daddy and mommy, okay?
No, no, no, no, no.
Thank you.
Thank you, Mr. Jacobs.
Thank you for the deal.
Thank you for the signing bonus.
Could you imagine
if it was?
Imagine TFO Phil was on the horn with Harry.
Oh, man. Oh, man. It would be awesome.
If you want to shoot, brother,
I could shoot, all right? Don't get
it twisted, okay? I could shoot, too.
Hey, Cole Cabana, I could shoot,
all right? So let's go.
Get on with it. You don't know that reference because you're
Johnny Come Lately. Man, Siri back there knows what I'm
talking about. Shut the fuck up. I know we're co-combatants.
You just need to stop. I think you've been wrestling
there for a bit as well.
Hey,
the CM Punk, yeah.
Yeah, of course, he told you that in your ear. Okay, go on.
I mean, my shoulder's getting tired. I'm smarter than you
every single thing you talk about.
Are you going to be at WrestleMania next week?
Let's break some news. Or did they not call you?
Did Triple H say he doesn't need your sorry ass
anymore? Tell me. That's what was said?
Yeah.
Reminiscent of Monday Night Football?
No, Reminiscent never gave me an opportunity
to win the ratings war one time
or two times.
They wanted you to work at the Boca Raton Bowl?
Yeah, that was exactly what happened, actually.
I was actually out on the field.
I was in jorts, and it was a hurricane throughout the entire game.
It was a lot of fun.
That's your mommy-daddy, though, who was making those decisions.
Nothing to do with that.
Doing NBA May 7th.
Nice!
Where at?
Chi-Town.
Maybe we can link up afterwards.
All right.
It's three hours away. I don't know if I'll drive to talk to you,
but maybe if you didn't put that fart sound in there,
I would have went and done that.
What are you going to do? Are you actually play-by-play?
Yeah.
It's actually, we're going old school, Vince Scully style.
No analyst, no reporter, just one man in the booth calling all the action.
And what an honor it is to be in this position.
I mean, after all these years, all this hard work, it's great to be in this spot, I must say.
Is that on ABC or ESPN?
It's actually on ABC and ESPN simulcast, also on ESPN Plus, the platform that Chael Sonnen and I built,
Ariel and the Bad Guy, which you can, of course, watch every Wednesday and Thursday.
We built it off our shoulders with our hands.
Only two shows a week.
Mr. Chapek to call us yesterday to thank us for all the subs.
Only two shows a week.
Only two shows a week.
Well, that's that's that show.
Then I got DC and Hawani.
Then I got Ariel Hawani's on the show every Wednesday.
I mean, we're talking about every single day a different kind of program from yours truly.
Yeah, but if a tree falls, you know?
It's like if a tree...
You know how they say, like, out in the middle
of the woods, like, if a tree...
Yeah, yeah, yeah, they say that.
And then they say, if nobody's around, like, did it make
any noise? No, I think
we make noise, my friend. I think we make noise
plenty.
You said you wanted to ask me something about something.
Ask me something. Or was this it?
Was it just this? If this was it, then I'm cool
with it because I'm happy with the deal
that Mr. Jacobs and I signed.
I just want to know if we're okay with
these kinds of questions on the program.
Can you zoom out there, Mansouri?
Can you zoom out there and do your job for once?
That would be foxy.
You need a little respect for foxy, please.
Because the lighting is kind of blinding me.
So much ice on this thing, you can skate on it.
Oh!
Look at that.
Why don't you have a grill yet?
I feel like Kilwani should have a full grill at this point.
A lot of people said that I was gifted with some of the nicest pearly whites
they've ever seen. No braces here, Patrick.
Unlike you. I mean, grandmas
used to stop me on the street and say,
how did you do it? How did you get
such a perfect smile? I said,
sister, good
hygiene, good genes,
good genetics, and a whole lot
of brushing. You know what I'm saying?
And a whole lot of brushing. know what I'm saying and a whole lot of brushing
oh those are veneers
nope look at that
you know what what a compliment
what a tremendous compliment
because they're so good
they look like veneers but no here I am
I mean have you seen the detail on this thing
alright let's get past it the can-amp we get it
you lost Stephen A and Max
definitely came to and got that.
And I would assume that that's the second time Stephen A. has won that
alongside Skip and whoever else Stephen A. is with over there.
And maybe Herbstreit, by the way.
He might get in the ring.
He came off top rope a little bit as well.
But, Ariel, let's talk about something you do know about.
Can I please?
Please.
Do you want to take the belt off your shoulder?
No?
I mean, do you want me to?
Does it make you uncomfortable?
No.
Does it make you feel inferior?
No, but just like a fake belt, you know, fake championship.
While you're talking, you look stupid.
I kind of look like a clown.
Fake show, fake arms, fake shirt.
When's the last time you were tested?
When's the last time?
A couple months ago, actually.
I got a full test, got a blood test done as well.
They were trying to see what I had.
They had to get me.
You know what I mean?
Do you have those jabrons follow you everywhere you go for affirmation?
Can you ever have a one-on-one conversation?
Or does it always have to be like, uh-huh, uh-huh, uh-huh?
Well, with me
I've lived such an incredibly hilarious life
You make me sick
The boys are here to be like
Yes, what are you saying actually did happen
And so much happens
I don't live in the basement
And do four shows a week
I do so many things
I actually forgot that they took my oil
To actually test me that that
did happen a couple months ago so i gotta remember some things because so much happens you know i i
people see my life they see what i do i don't go into disappearance if i get banned from a show you
know what i mean like when are they going to come out with the schedule for your monday night games
i'm really looking forward to that i think you guys are going to do a great job in the fall
will you get to travel to the games or are you going to do them from home?
What's the deal? We might. I mean, that might
be the thought. You know,
I think that Monday night
gig, Ariel,
imagine if I would have got, how quickly
would I have gotten fired from that gig, you think?
After now? Listen,
jokes aside, I think you would have been great.
No, no. I love you
on game day.
Every time you come on, that 30 second spot is phenomenal. Jokes aside, I think you would have been great. No, no. I love you on game day. Oh, shut up, Barry.
Every time you come on, that 30-second spot is phenomenal.
Every time you come on, I mean, it's just quality TV.
And I think you would have been great as, like, I don't know what you would have been.
You would have been, like, the celebrity picker at halftime or something.
You would have had that, you know, Chris Berman job, the fastest two minutes.
I don't know what you would have done.
Hey, hey, hey, hey.
But I think you would have been great regardless.
Don't you... Hey, you
need to slow down about Boomer.
Damn, ricochet shots at Boomer.
You need to take it easy. Boomer's a legend.
Boomer's one of my favorite human beings. Oh, yeah,
sure. Can we talk about...
Buffalo Bills fan, by the way. No one circles the
wagons like Chris Berman and the Buffalo Bills.
Chargers, but the...
Chargers. He's a
Chargers fan, yeah, I think.
The Bills fan.
He's like the Mayor Buffalo at this point.
No, the circle of the Bills wagon thing is real, but I think he's a Chargers fan.
I do believe.
Not 100% sure.
We can look that up.
I mean, what about the offseason?
Brandon Bean is that, huh?
Can we talk about that for a second?
Nobody wants to talk to Ariel Helwani about that.
Okay?
Nobody.
Listen, this is what I want to.
Can you tell me about John Burns Jones and Dana White having dinner, making a deal done?
What would that be worth?
What a mark you are, Patrick.
I mean, just when I thought you couldn't be a bigger mark, here you are marking out again.
April Fools, brother, come on.
No.
Yes.
No.
You fell for this?
Yes.
Like I said, I mean, listen listen i know you went to west virginia i'm
sorry about the beat down that my boys in orange put on you guys i know education isn't exactly
what we'd like to call top notch over there but yes check the date april fools come on
you think it goes down like that listen big mma news only gets broken by yours truly
on twitter come on you see me right now why did we even that was the only reason i know
i mean shit hook line and sinker i guess all of us thanks so dana was a part of that amount of
we have x amount of appearances mr jacobs and i cut a deal i had to be on today you think i wanted
to come on on Friday?
One of my favorite holidays of the year.
By the way,
you coming on was potentially about something that we're all realizing.
It's all bullshit.
All bullshit.
And we're starting to become the biggest MMA show on the internet,
by the way.
Francis and gone.
Who interviewed,
sat down for 30 minutes,
learned his whole story.
Almost got that overnight.
We were becoming,
you know,
we're trying to give you a little bit of a rub in that world.
Turns out we were, oh, wow, we got caught.
We got fucking duped.
No.
Is it bothering you guys that it's shining so much that the belt is shining?
Like, do you feel like it's turning away the viewers or do you think it's driving them in?
What do you guys think?
Well, I do believe if I was to view the numbers and ratings of things that you do, a lot of the things you do on camera drives away the viewers yeah i don't know if it's the belt i mean what a shot this is right here who would
have thought after the ban i put on you guys that we'd be back in this moment me wearing a tie over
my sweatshirt the belt all this stuff this stuff. I mean, this is...
You remember when Hogan and The Rock went face-to-face?
Remember that?
That's like this moment right here.
You went to Syracuse the other way, yeah.
Once in a lifetime or whatever they called it.
Other way.
Other way.
Oh, no.
Oh, yeah, perfect.
Yeah, that's how it works.
Jackass.
We'll mirror your thing so it works for us.
The next time you try to spread...
Why would you not just turn and look at us?
What?
There you go.
I mean, this is great content right here.
I don't know about you guys
but this is some of our best work
is there anything else or
are we done here I don't know
Bones is I thought he and Dana had
I thought so Dana played
along it was after midnight
though but that was on the east coast
I don't know if they're on the west coast
see we're trying to explain why we potentially had our
guard down it's because where we live here on the eastern standard time it was past april fool's day so we put our guards
done what's your level of interest in that fight four thousand should they pay up for it okay
i think so now i don't know what the average amount of money made off of all these are. If you go off the boxing numbers and how much money Floyd makes per fight and how much money Conor made whenever he was fighting over there and the Wilder Fury fights and how much money comes out of the boxing world, which has always been a much larger person anywhere else. Back in time to when John Bones Jones was having his surge in everything and fighting.
He was on cereal boxes and Nike deals and everything.
Yes, yes, I was there, Patrick.
You don't have to give me the whole story.
I lived it.
Go ahead.
Yeah, me too.
I was at the fights.
I was at the after parties.
I was literally in the family there for a little bit.
I thought he was potentially going to be able to be the Floyd Mayweather of mixed martial arts
where go off and do your own events and sell your own tickets and then everything started happening
out of the cage and everything started going kind of haywire and going down I think if John Bones
Jones who was named the greatest fighter of all time basically whenever he was going and everybody
I loved watching him fight his return bout against the story we just
heard yesterday a man who's going to write a book entitled born slave became a king i mean that fight
would be one that i would be very interested in i don't know if he told you that on your show he
did that on my show yesterday or whatever but but that fight would be yes i'd be very interested in
that fight wouldn't you i think it's one of the biggest fights that they could ever do.
He is the closest thing that they've ever had to Mike Tyson.
And what I mean by that is, you know, he suspends disbelief, right?
He looks the part.
He hits like a Mack truck.
He's a heavyweight champion that everyone's intimidated by, who everyone's afraid of.
I mean, he's incredible.
But here's the biggest difference between him and Mike Tyson.
He's just scratching the surface. Yes, he's 34, but I don't think we've seen nowhere near how good this guy can be. And so the idea that you have this guy who's just scratching the surface,
but he's the heavyweight champ who just knocked out Stipe Miocic. And oh, by the way, here's
Jon Jones who vacated the title and said, all right, I'm going to fight either Stipe or Francis.
And he's an undefeated champion and the greatest light heavyweight champion in most people's eyes,
the greatest fighter of all time, period. That's a massive, massive fight. That's a massive fight.
Now, I would advise John to not negotiate in public. This doesn't rub the UFC brass the right
way. They don't like when people do this.
If he truly wants to make this fight happen, and I believe he does,
there's this notion out there that he's afraid of Francis.
How silly is this notion?
The guy just gave up his title knowing very well that it was either Stipe or Francis next.
There was a 50-50 chance, and oh, by the way, Francis was the betting favorite.
And now all of a sudden he's going to back out?
No.
No.
He just wants to get paid. Now, is his demand a little unreasonable he says eight to ten is too
little i would offer i'm not gonna say he doesn't he doesn't have a very strong point but historically
very very few fighters like i can literally name one or two have made eight to ten or more
connor you know the names connor and khabib that's it in that fight
their first fight or all fights no i'm talking about for a fight oh connor and when they fought
each other you haven't no khabib afterwards has made in that range but there's a difference with
khabib connor's the only one that just gets it period regardless of the situation pay-per-view
khabib gets it because he fights in abu dhabi and there's a deal there with the abu dhabi government so they chip in a little bit but that's it and so does does john deserve it for
his body of work sure i just don't know if he's going about it the right way and by the way i
don't think the ufc is going to stick around like they'll call up derrick lewis pretty quickly to
move on yeah and he said he would take the fight i believe he said eight million she eight million
i'll fight i believe is what he said but um which by the
way he's one of the most entertaining people of all time feels like the heavyweights have a great
thing going right now which is good for everybody anytime there's big people swinging at big people
it's good news what is the what is a normal buy for pay-per-view how many people buy it and
whenever you talk about points did stipe get 700 000 in bonuses from pay-per-view points because
he made allegedly 1.2 something and francis made these numbers from the internet i mean
i guess i expect nothing less from a guy who just made up a whole story a month ago but
um don't believe don't this is not the nba this is not the nfl the numbers that you see online
are not
accurate when it comes to fighting especially mma really they can pretty much disclose what they
want and that's that and most fighters are okay with that because they don't want you know jabrons
like you going through their taxes and so jabrons like me have had every dollar i made basically
publicly stated so it's it's i didn't think it would be a bad thing i think it's kind of normal
for people that are at a high level.
But what is the average?
You're saying the $8 million to $10 million,
there's only two people that have ever gotten that.
Whenever you're talking UFC fighters,
why is it always just widely considered like, yeah, the purse is much smaller?
Is it because boxing has been around a lot longer?
The breakdown is completely different, right?
I mean, let's take Mayweather.
He's his own promoter.
So he's going to take the boatload of the money here here and also the rest of the card is making a lot less so
he's able to take the lion's share even if you don't have a guy like Mayweather
let's say you have a guy like god or no Anthony Joshua he's promoted by match
room boxing Eddie Hearn it's gonna be him versus let's say hopefully one day
Tyson Fury I mean just look at the look at the gate look at everything look at
the the breakdown as far as the TV deals and all mean, just look at the gate, look at everything, look at the breakdown
as far as the TV deals and all that, and then look at what the rest of the guys are making on the
card. So that's not to say that it should be way more in the UFC. It should. But I'm saying they
like to spread it out a lot more. And oh, by the way, because you're essentially working for them
as opposed to being your own promoter or co-promoter you're going to get you know a lesser portion of the pie
so you're saying how many downloads or how many pay-per-view buys for which what i predict that
jones and uh and guy do we get yeah give me like biggest of all time normal and then what is of
all time is is a little over two million for um connor khabib um these days they're on fire uh you know the pandemic has
treated them very well so you know there have been a few like connor and dustin did over a million
masvidal usman did over a million 69.99 or what is it 49.99 69.99
they're doing they're doing big business they are but if you're John Bones
and Connor and everyone that's why you would
automatically see that because the UFC
will survive them
like they will outgrow
can I tell you my biggest issue with all this
my biggest issue is
and I'm happy that we're having this conversation
this is good for us
I mean you've been in a luchador
mask this entire time but I feel like it has been a very good conversation and by the way we've been in a luchador Mass this entire time but I feel like
It has been a very good conversation
And by the way we've been able to
Willfully suspend this belief that we're talking
To a con and actually
Have you know
Like taken what you've said seriously
For good con value so congrats
To us for doing it
You misspelled my name
On the graphic there
You forgot a knee, for the record.
So, going back to the conversation,
Jon Jones relinquished his title off the top of my head June or July, right?
It's currently, what are we, April 1st.
What have we been doing, or second,
what have we been doing since June to April?
We knew that John was giving up his belt to fight either Stipe or Francis.
This has been said time and again, time and again.
Why are we waiting until now to talk turkey with John Jones?
That's the part that bothers me in all this.
If I were in charge, what I would have done was November, December, January.
At this point, we know Francis and Stipe are fighting March 27th.
Get a deal done with Jon Jones and get two separate deals done.
Get a Stipe deal done, a Francis deal done, right?
Get a deal done in writing, verbal, whatever, and then have two promos.
Two promos.
Okay, Francis wins.
End of the pay-per-view.
Could you imagine?
You fade to black
you run the promo
the greatest champion
of all time
moving up the heavyweight
going against the
new heavyweight champion
do I have to run
the show myself
do you see what I'm
saying here
hold on though
hold on though
hold on though
that fight
has
now how long
how many days
removed from that fight
are we now
six days
now the
conversation's reignited again with a april 1st uh april fool's day tweet or whatever but just
whenever you release that video gets big pop that night right at like what 4 a.m or whatever
whatever that pay-per-view ends you get a big pop that night i think you get the deal done obviously
pre-hand but man the slow roll this week of rolling out that john bones
is going to happen i think that would be better booking personally but if you want to make the
announcement at 4 a.m after the fight just ended and take francis's enjoyment moment i mean that is
on the east coast 9 30 on the west and all eyes are on francis and the coronation of the new king
and all that stuff if you want to wait till Monday morning, fine.
But I feel like, I mean, I just look at the
activity online at the end of a pay-per-view.
It's sky high. I mean, my numbers
through the roof. I mean, unbelievable
numbers, you know, for my programs.
So I would have done it then. Promo
or not, I just want to know, what have we
been doing for the last, what is it,
eight months, right? Like, why didn't we get a deal
done? Why are we doing this now? Because you know what's something that's you know it's very unbelievable
bro you're talking right now to a company that's about to go public right ufc is about to go public
right and i think you're making a i think endeavor just bought out uh they now have 100 ownership of
it before it goes ipo or whatever so i don't know what that means but ufc
is about to skyrocket and you're breaking down uh a very very very good point bringing up very
logical questions and things that would be good for their business but you're wearing this luchador
mask the entire time it is it's very difficult. Oh! Oh my God!
Still got the belt.
Still had the belt.
It is me, my friends.
I am back to save this program.
Helwani is back.
Tiawani Fridays are back.
Feel good Friday.
Tiawani Friday.
That's so good he says.
Ariel, you want to take a phone call?
Oh, God.
Who is it?
Booker T. that Jabron?
Did he just finish the set with his five-pound Fisher-Price weights?
All right.
That's not who it is, but we've got to get to a break.
It's been a lot of fun talking to you, Ariel.
Wait.
What's the call?
I want the call.
Give me the call.
I was just going to pick some random, but I mean.
Let's go.
Hit me.
All right. Let's go. Hit me. Alright.
Let's go to Derek.
Let's go
to...
All these questions are very NFL
related, which you know nothing about.
Hit me. I can talk all day about Xavier Woods.
Let's go.
Let's go to Derek in Texas. Derek, what's
going on, bub?
Hey, it's Pat and the boys and Dana White's favorite bluffer, Hilwani.
Yeah!
I like this Derek in Texas.
What do you want to talk about, Derek?
Hey, well, since we've got Hilwani on the line, hey, man,
you think that that Jon Bones, Jonone Ngannou fight's gonna get made?
Because it seems like it's not.
Great question, Derek.
What was the question?
What was the question?
Are they gonna fight or not?
Wow, great stuff, Derek.
Way to bring it, bro.
Way to bring it. I mean, golly.
Alright, this is the level of callers you have.
Are they gonna fight or not? Are Bones and Ngannou gonna fight or not? I'll put it this way. I mean, golly. Alright, this is the level of callers you have. Are they going to fight or not? Are Bones
and Ngannou going to fight or not?
I'll put it this way. I hope they do.
I wouldn't be surprised if they don't.
Okay, ladies and gentlemen.
Way to bring it.
This is the level of answers you give
over there on your ESPN.
Listen,
hey, unlike others,
I don't speculate.
I give you the truth.
That's a shoot, brother.
Hey, call up rfvideo.com.
I'll shoot all over your asses, all right?
All right.
Nice.
Ladies and gentlemen, for some reason, Ariel.
Yeah.
Can't thank you enough for choosing to listen To this show today
This entire week
Thank you for your commitment to listening to the show
Thank you for your fanhood
Thank you to all the boys for their effort this week
Can't thank you all enough
For the fact that we get to do this
And you all listen
This weekend enjoy the hell out of yourself will ya
Please just have an absolute blast.
Life sucks.
The world's got a lot of bad shit going on.
We're all going to die.
But this weekend, we're going to have the time of our lives.
Let's enjoy this thing we call life and laugh a little bit.
And if you did that today, please be a friend, tell a friend.
If not, just act like it never happened.
Ty, please play some independent music and propel these people into the best weekend of all time.
We will see you Monday
with a big show.
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