The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 393 - The Masters Recap, NFL Draft Possibilities, Ian Rapoport, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: April 12, 2021

On today's show, Pat and the boys chat about Hideki Matsuyama being the first Japanese born player to win a Green Jacket, and how cool it was to see. They also chat about the Aaron Rodgers situation, and the Bob Demovsky report that the Packers haven't been in free agent negotiations because of Rodgers' current contract situation, Jonathan Kraft's comments about full stadiums, and everything else going on around the NFL as we approach the draft. Joining the program is friend of the show and NFL Network Insider, Ian Rapoport, to chat about the reports that the 49ers might not be sold on Mac Jones, how he thinks the first few picks will shake out, how certain GM's are interested about being involved in every trade conversation, and much more (27:15-53:02). Later, Pat and AJ Hawk chat about everything going on in the NFL, who they would want to see on Hard Knocks next year, and AJ recounts being in Augusta yesterday for the final round of The Masters, and how he got separated from his group 20 minutes into being there and spent the day by himself on the course (55:18-1:44:02). Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow and listen every day on Mad Dog Radio, Sirius XM Channel 82. We appreciate you all for listening, come and laugh with us, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello, it is Monday, April 12th. Can't thank you enough for choosing to listen to this show. I think it's a good one today. Yeah, it is a good one today. I think we had a pretty good Monday. You know, coming out of Masters, coming out of WrestleMania, Ian Rappaport with some NFL talk. I mean, big show today. Can't thank you enough for choosing to listen. If by the end of this thing you like it, please be a friend, tell a friend. If not, just act like it never happened. By the way, I'm up to something. Something big's going on.

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Tell a friend. Let's get to it, Ty. Incredible Masters weekend. Congratulations. I mean, while watching this man play golf on the back nine, there was obviously some holes that caused him a little bit of trouble, but everybody was kind of going through their own battle. Started the day with a four-stroke lead lead ends it with a one-stroke victory but at times it felt like it could get lost never really except for when shelfly kind of went there for a little bit and then he put seven into the water or whatever it never really thought like he never really felt like

hideki was going to lose it and all they they kept saying was, you know, the pressure on this man of the entire country of Japan on his shoulders here. And then there was a cool moment where Jim Nance rattled off all of the famous Japanese golfers, which I enjoyed. It was a nice trip back in time.

But then they would continue, an entire country of Japan is going to be happy for him. And I just kept, hey, I'm going to be fucking happy for this guy too. Hey, what about, like, they kept hammering that home and i appreciate that and i do love the fact that for the first time anytime there's a first time ever you know it is awesome

so the first time ever a japanese golfer has won the masters which is looked at like the super bowl of golf so congratulations to Hideki Matsuyama. Yeah! And I do love the fact that the entire country was on his back, but while I was watching it, I'm like, hey, I'm fucking pumped for this guy. Come on! This is a cool, they kept, I feel like they were like, trying to let us know how much

the country of Japan loves golf. And by the way, I did enjoy that entire conversation, but I felt a great sense of happiness for this guy that I had never heard of before seemed to be one of the calmest coolest guys I've ever seen on the course his putting is so much different that it almost takes you back to like Jack or whatever when he has a little bit of the bend of the leg and the whole thing like that it was just a very cool master's weekend topped off by Wrestlemania weekend which had iconic moments and weather and delays.

And Vince McMahon calling God, saying, hold off just a few more hours. We got a goddamn show to do down here. It was a beautiful weekend. It's a fantastic Monday. And there's a lot of shit going on. Ab Viva Lozito is on vacation. Congrats, Zeke. Enjoy it, Zeke.

Have fun, Zeke. We love Zeke. Tone Diggs and Gumpy, the Hammer Don Boys, which is a daily live show at 4 p.m. will join us in the second hour, as will Ian Rappaport. We'll talk about all things happening surrounding the NFL, which we're about to dive into with that Boston Connor. The New England Patriots have somehow made their way back into the forefront of conversation in the entire sports world in your eyes.

Masters was yesterday. Okay. WrestleMania happened. was yesterday. Okay. WrestleMania happened. Of course. Okay, there's some Aaron Rodgers speculation happening. Connie's over in Cleveland. There's a lot popping off. The NFLPA says, hey, we are boycotting OTAs.

They are voluntary. We are choosing to voluntarily not go as a crew here so we can change the way OTAs are going forward. Okay, there's a lot of craziness going on. In your eyes, though, did this not just happen at Pashment? Yes, this did just happen. As we're about to go live, I go, biggest story of the day. And Connor goes, once again, the Patriots are at the forefront. In your eyes, the biggest news coming out of the weekend we just had is the Patriots doing what?

Being at the forefront of returning full stadiums to the world. Full stadiums? What? Full stadiums. No. Okay? I thought we weren't going to have full stadiums until 2032. And here we are, the crafts, telling everybody, look, it doesn't make sense to not have full stadiums.

We've got to get back to living our lives, Pat. Okay, so there is a Monday Morning Quarterback article that comes out every single Monday morning, obviously. It's a collection of things that have happened from the past week and what to potentially look forward to. It is owned by Sports Illustrated,

I believe, and Albert Breer runs it now. Formerly Peter King, who ran it. Peter King now gets bought out by NBC, so Albert Breer runs Monday morning quarterback. Peter King goes to Sports Illustrated. He runs Football Morning in America because they have Football Night in America on Sunday night. Football Morning in America is Monday morning,

so Albert Breer and Peter King both release things on Monday. What's that? I didn't. I was just connecting dots. I'm sorry. I thought I gave courtesy to the wrong person on a graphic we might use and you just connected all the dots for me so i apologize guys i'll let you know that happens by the way sorry i feel like that does happen that's by the way although people do watch the show radio show that is kind of what you do in radio you kind of

have to paint the picture for people which is is what I was attempting to do. But Peter King in Albert Breer, Peter King used to work alongside Albert. Well, I guess a head of Albert Breer. Albert Breer gets promoted to Monday morning quarterback Peter King, then OG of NFL writing, who will not be on this show, but OG of writing. He now has Football Morning in America for NBC. Anyways, these two articles, very good every single week. And to be honest, I am very kind of sorry if I don't

accurately source, to Foxy's point, information from which article to which article, because it seems like every Monday, whenever these two release, there's new shit coming out, and it is very well done by both of them, Albert Breer and Peter King. But the Kraft quote, Jonathan Kraft, who I believe is old buddy's son. He's the bald guy, thinner head, kind of glasses maybe.

There it is. You see him. He's normally sitting on the left of Jon Bon Jovi. There you go. On the right is old Bob Kraft. Bob Kraft, Kenny Chesney, maybe. I mean, it's a moving cast. And then the left, that other one, that's who we're talking about here.

Yeah, there you go. Okay, so he's in the picture. He's in the frame. He's a part of the conversations, I believe, from the documentaries that I've watched from the behind the scenes. Do your job. He is making decisions. He comes out and says, hey, we got these fucking vaccines going on. Okay, and if we're two weeks removed

from people's second vaccine, and it seems like a large majority of people are going to do that, why are we not going to have full stadium? It would be, I forget how exactly, but somebody else said this earlier, and it might have been Kraft as well, maybe last week,

where they said it would be premature of us to say a percentage of the stadium would be full, especially with how we're looking at this thing. It feels like the crafts, who I assume are a part of conversations that are pretty important in the NFL, are like, listen, vaccine, vaccine. Okay, now the Johnson & Johnson one allegedly has some questions. Okay, so allegedly has some questions. I'm watching the nightly news, and they're like, Johnson & Johnson vaccine recall.

I'm like, is this like a car park? Yeah. How does this, do you go in there? I'm like, shout out to whoever got the Johnson & Johnson when they're watching news. Like, I thought I did what I was supposed to. Good luck. Who knows how any of that goes. But anyways, vaccine, vaccine, or that one singular elbow drop vaccine.

Two weeks afterwards, I assume that's when it has completely made its way through your body. He's like, who says we can't? Who says we can't? Who says no? This is Roger Goodell saying we're expecting full stadiums. Now this is the entire NFL coming out basically in their own ways. Listen, this is why we feel this way. I assume

more information is going to come. All we need to know, and maybe you're right, maybe this is the biggest news. Watch the Masters. A lot of people. Hey, there was a lot of people there watching. Now, it seemed like a majority of them did have masks on. Some groups, if they were sitting around each other, I assume they got comfortable

because they've been hanging out with each other probably for the last 12 months. Now they're sitting in public somewhere. It seemed like there was a lot of people there. A lot of people. Big crowds there. Big crowds. Now you got Jonathan Kraft coming out and saying, hey, we got vaccines. We got full stadiums.

You got Texas Rangers. Have we heard anything there? We have not yet. Have not heard anything there? Which is? Where WrestleMania just had 25,000 in back-to-back nights. Are we? Did we?

Are we? Oh, yeah. Are we? Are we on this? Are we? Uh-huh. Are we on the other side of this whole COVID thing? Did we officially?

We did it. We beat COVID. Wow. We did it! Yeah! Yes! Yes! Come on!

Hey, hashtag Monday motivation. How about that? Yeah. Listen, we are not doctors. No, no, no. We don't even try to be. Okay? We talk to some doctors of the mind and of the body.

Okay? We are a... You know, PhDs is all we talk to. Yeah. Some have two. Some have one. Some have four. Shit.

Fuck. We'll talk to a 10 PhD-having son of a bitch if he wants to come on this show. Exactly. But what it seems like is a lot of the people who probably have to hear things from a higher level, probably have to do things government-wise, protocol-wise, and all that stuff. It feels like, and also up there in Boston, I mean, that was a hot spot there for a little bit. So whoever's talking to Jonathan Kraft, who does sit at the right hand of Jon Bon Jovi in the suite where Bob Kraft is there, he is in the know.

He's like, this should not be an issue at all. He feels like we did it. Yeah, and this isn't Johnny Craft, you know At a bar having a bag of peanuts Telling people, hey, you know, full capacity Let's do it This is the MIT Sloan Sports Analytics Conference, okay The smartest people in the world are up there at MIT

And they're sitting there like Yeah, you know what, John? You're right, we should have full stadiums So, to your point I don't know what Johnson & Johnson But it does feel like we are What was this again? Where was this at?

The MIT Sloan Sports Analytics Conference. What do you mean? I have been hearing about the MIT Sloan Sports Analytics Conference for a long time. Oh, yeah. And now that you're kind of getting a chance to chat about it, it really gets me going. Because whenever you're thinking about the MIT Sloan Sports Analytics Conference Academy or whatever, you're talking about people that are really putting numbers together and isn't that what this is all about since the very beginning of uncle covet all

you really saw was graphs and numbers that's all you saw and then as one number grew everybody else got scared and we continue to get scared we had no idea we're a part of then the numbers start doing something different they're like hey when i dip you dip we dip we're going down now we're talking about analytics now we're talking mit sloan folks now we're talking about analytics. Now we're talking MIT Sloan folks. Now we're talking Jonathan Kraft. We beat fucking COVID. This is awesome, isn't it? What a day. Now I'm not saying that... I'm not

saying anything actually because I didn't really... We know what happened last time. We said we beat COVID. People told us pretty quickly, hey, no we didn't. Okay, but I mean it does sound like we might be over the hill. And back to your point, a lot of 3Ds, actually. Oh, yeah.

Yeah, but no P or Hs. No, none of those. So you said no P's, no Hs or Ds, and I was like, well, take a quick second there. I thought the D stood for doctor, so I wasn't sure in the PH. To be honest, I'm not 100% sure what those what's pH mean? Do we know what that means? No. No way. We read it too. We read it right off.

It's a pH scale. I know that. Is it a pH scale? Well, I know there is a pH scale when it comes to water and stuff like that. Acidity. But I have no idea what it stands for in the pH or D. I'll tell you what, very important though. Oh yeah. Because when that pH comes and then it stands for in the PH or D. I'll tell you what's very important, though. Oh, yeah. Because when that PH comes and then OD slips in the back door, let me tell you what happens.

Everybody takes you serious. Listen to this guy. Very, very quick. We don't have any of those. No. And we are just now learning about what PH means. After a quick Google search, a PHD is a doctor of philosophy. A non-medical doctor.

Hey, hold on. Oh, yeah, because a doctor is an MD. Yeah, because that's a medical doctor. And then a dentist is a DMD or DDS. Which is a doctor of dental sciences. Boom. Look at us.

Holy shit, dude. PhD philosophy. Maybe you do have a PhD. Yeah, I have a lot of philosophies. Exactly. You know what I mean? Maybe. Yeah, I have a lot of philosophies. Exactly. You know what I mean? No, I could be a PHM. I am a multitude of philosophies. There it is.

I'm a PHM. Wow. Anyways, what we're saying is we hope that COVID's over. The signs seem to be, if this was blues clues, it seems like it'd be leading us right to a potential headstone of COVID. We're going to have to deal with this forever, I think. I believe this is going to be

something that's going to be a part of our lives now. But it feels like just by watching other people who we assume know people who actually know stuff. So we do have to let you know that this is potentially secondhand complete bullshit. Of course. Because Jonathan Kraft could just be saying this in a fashion that's business-centric as opposed to what has had to have been talked about for the last 13 months, which is medical-centric. So he might be full of shit, but from what he's saying,

and Roger Goodell, who is one of the most cerebral speakers of all time, then WrestleMania, Texas Rangers Stadium, and the Masters is in Georgia. It's creeping up. You know, like, Texas and Florida had this thing kind of held down for a while. Like, hey, we won't keep it open. And then all of a sudden, it's going up

into Georgia now, and then where else will it go next? Who knows? We'll find out. Massachusetts, hopefully. And that's a long road to get. That's a way up there. into georgia now and then where else we'll go next who knows we're fast truces hopefully and that's that's a long road yeah exactly that's a way way up there but i think one of the things he said too i don't know if it was the exact thing but he's like it would be intellectually dishonest to tell people to tell people that we can't open when we're telling them hey you get the vaccine like your life's going to be able to go back to normal a little bit and it's basically just like we're treating these people like morons if we say that kind of stuff and then we can't have full capacities intellectually

dishonest i was i was looking for it there was no way that was coming uh you know i mean there was no way that was coming thank you for reminding me that was what was said there uh at ty schmidt some news that maybe circulates around you and by the way this isn't like a the country of japan's gonna be happy for hideki type thing where i'm saying this because we understand that you also have a little bit of an expertise in surviving covid because we've all lived through this thing more directly to you there's been some more write-ups and where there's smoke there's fire in the seattle seahawks fans uh some of them a portion of them turned on us for covering the smoke before there's an actual fire but that's

what we have to do. We observe and report. That's literally what we do on this show. And we enjoy doing it. We have no journalism degrees. We are sports stooges. That's right. Sports stooge that has a little bit more of maybe a sense of what's going on

because we can keep up with trends. For instance, if Mike Florio and Pro Football Talk are talking about something, there has to be a reason. Unless Florio's just making it up, but Florio's been in the game for a long time. I don't know if that's how anything works, especially no matter what your thoughts are on anything that Florio and Pro Football Talk do,

there's a reason everything's happening in our eyes from what we've watched. Any narrative that's pushed publicly through insiders, there's a reason. Maybe it's true. Maybe it's partial true. Maybe they're leaving out a lot of truth. But it feels like somebody's always cooking something

for a reason. Mike Florio started talking a little bit heavily this weekend on Pro Football Talk, even so much so as much as putting up a poll this morning about Aaron Rodgers and the Green Bay Packers relationship. How do you view this going, Ty, especially after that there's being some real coverage being put on it by a lot of different people?

We talk about it as like a, you know, like, I mean, there's one year guaranteed money. You assume that he would get this deal done, especially with what everybody else is doing. But teams are fickle in what they do, that whole thing. In your eyes, this Aaron Rod rogers green bay packers story warrant the amount of conversation it has garnered at this particular point ty or do you think this is all a bunch of to do that really is going to end up being nothing i mean i think it obviously is overblown a little bit because aaron's come on we we've talked about it because he doesn't do that many interviews and

stuff like that a narrative kind of gets out there. And because he just won an MVP, he's one of the best players in the NFL, kind of creates a firestorm. But also, I mean, extend the fucking guy. End this. It's like at this point, if something hasn't gotten done, like if you read Florio's article, he basically posits that the Packers are more comfortable on having Rodgers

on a year-to-year contract in case his play slips. But basically what he says in the end is it comes down to, are the Packers going to commit to Rodgers long-term, or are they going to be okay with sending Jordan Love out there in 2022? In Florio, who has been good to us, but I know he's very much a people either love him or hate him type guy, but he's always been good to us, and I assume he knows that people either love him or hate him too, so that's not saying anything.

But he was reacting to a Rob Domovsky article or interview or something like that. An old Bob Domovsky in the conversation cited an anonymous agent, an anonymous executive, an anonymous somebody else, and the agent felt like it was potentially another Packers players agent was talking to Bob Domofsky about how the Packers continue to say, you know, we got something potentially big during their negotiation. So it's like, OK, so maybe they to Bob Domofsky's entire thing, made it sound like they were acting as if they can't spend money because money's tied up in Aaron Rogers' contract. And then we all kind of like hear at Pro Football Talk tweets, in a comprehensive look at the current relationship between Aaron Rogers and the Packers, Rob Domofsky quotes an unnamed agent who says the Packers aren't making free agent moves due to Rodgers' contract. So that's like, okay, now which way and why? Is it because they're

renegotiating one? And it's tough to make moves because when you don't know what exactly is going to happen over the next three, four years with the prime money user of a salary cap on every team, basically, which is the quarterback? Or are they saying, because the contract's so big, they can't pay anybody else? That is kind of where I'm kind of torn on this entire thing, because if they're saying they can't spend money on anybody else because it's Aaron Rodgers' contract, they could do that Houdini shit that's going on all around the NFL, turn his salary and his signing bonus, free up some money, now we can make moves.

And if it's the other way where they're, you know, they just don't want to extend them or they're not renegotiating, that's fascinating too because Florio mentions in there that Mark Murphy might have found the perfect recipe of pissed-offness, basically, of Aaron Rodgers where he's happy but he still has a little bit of an edge. basically of Aaron Rodgers where he's happy but he still has a little bit of an edge and if that is what Mark Murphy is going to say in the future for why they drafted Jordan Love because I knew it would motivate Aaron to play his best I fucking love that spin zone yeah I love that spin zone if that's what's going on I I would love that too but yeah like you said the way I read it in that article was that they were saying hey we like people were coming to them free agents were coming maybe potentially interested and they were

saying hey we can't get anything done because of roger's contract but like once that's done you know we can't and then they just haven't done it they've continued to push it off so they haven't signed anyone they haven't done anything with him yet and then now it's like you run the risk of hey you piss him off too much and when he gets to like the end exactly it's gonna you run the risk of, hey, you piss him off too much. And when he gets to the end. It's going to get loud. Exactly. It's going to get very loud. And then after seeing what happened with Brady,

you can't let this guy leave the building. You just can't do it. And Peyton, by the way. Yeah. Peyton wouldn't want a Super Bowl. Tom wouldn't want a Super Bowl. I think this feels like these are things that happen. And then the thought that they can't spend money because of Aaron's contract,

and that's why they can't spend on free agents. Warren Sharp, who's like super analytic guy, you know what I mean? Of course. Great mustache. Oh, yeah. That's sharp analytics. He'll dive into all this. I think he like, when he hears something like that, he's like, oh, great,

another math little study I can get into. Put maybe some headphones on and he just starts going in. The money that the Packers have spent before, A little study I can get into. Put maybe some headphones on and he just starts going in. The money that the Packers have spent before, this is before the massive Rodgers contract, lowest in the entire NFL. It's lower than the Detroit Lions. Oh, yeah.

Okay, so Warren Sharp at Sharp Football says, no team spends less in free agency than the Packers. Nothing to do with Rodgers' contract, which was signed in 2018. Warren Sharp did this research after this interview came out. Now, I'm not sure, again, if the agent that told Bob Domofsky was saying they couldn't do anything because Rodgers' contract was so high,

or was he potentially saying, was Mark Murphy telling that agent that, hey, we're renegotiating right now, and they couldn't let that. You know, so I'm not 100% sure, but let's go with, and this is what Warren Sharpe's stats are about, is that they're telling people we can't pay because we have to pay Aaron Rodgers, which is interesting because before Aaron Rodgers' big contract,

they paid $181 million in free agency from 2011 to 2017 over 39 players. That's number 32 in the NFL. League average is $437 million. Okay, so that's 4X right there. And then the number one team, the Jacksonville Jaguars, $835 million. So the disparity there between the number one overall spending team in free agency versus the number 32 team in spending in free agency is $835 million to the Packers $181 million. But league average is where I'd assume most people will be, still way below

that. Sounds like this is just classic excuse on why they don't want to pay anybody. Yeah, for sure. And I mean, like if you're a Packers fan, you know this is just, this is business. I mean, that's why you know everyone gets so pissed. Is it because there's no owner? I think it has to be. Potentially, yeah. I think it has to be. Kraft? Exactly.

Kraft said, we lost one year. Let's not do that again. Mara came out and said, I'm sick of having to explain why we're losing at the Giants. Jerry Jones is infatuated with Kyle Pitts right now. Let's assume he's potentially been infatuated with other players before and paid them. I think it has to be because there's no owner. And I'll tell you what, I never really would have looked into the Green Bay Packers situation ever in my life if it wasn't for you and getting to know

Aaron and AJ and everything like that. I think the no owner thing, although very cool, is quite a detriment to the success of your team. Killing you. I really do believe that. And it's cool. It's a detriment to the success of your team. Killing you. I really do believe that. And it's cool. It's a great story.

And Green Bay is awesome. Like, I love Green Bay, Wisconsin. Got a chance to go up there, had those butter burgers and cheese curds. Wrote down something that was outside something. Sat in a bar I thought was Mason Crosby's bar. That was a lie. I gave him a lot of money because I thought it was Mason Crosby's bar. They were doing just fine without me, but nonetheless, I love...

It seems like it is quite a detriment for those types of reasons, for other decisions, for maybe something that would help Green Bay in a media deal that maybe they could speak up for. I mean, it is a massive fan base, massive organization, and I don't know how they're able to, oh,

because they got Aaron Rodgers as a fucking quarterback. Yeah, that's right. And even going back to when we had Andrew Brandt on the show when he used to work there, they'd have the owners' meetings or whatever, and something would be said, and they'd just scoff at Green Bay. It's like, all right, well, you guys aren't even, you know.

It's like, well, your opinion does not matter. It's these guys who hold all this money. Hey, will you go ask Ty Schmidt of Iowa what his thoughts are and then get back to us next week. Thanks. He's more of an owner than you are, by the way. Like, it would be, yeah, I think there has to be a voice. I don't know.

I just think there has to be, if it's a family, a group, whatever it is, there just has to be some sort. But then as soon as that happens and bad decisions get made, now you have somebody to blame, too. So it's kind of, you know what I mean? It's kind of like a six, one way, half dozen deal. Because you either are making moves because that family wants to, or if it doesn't, it's like, I hate that family.

Much like the nuttings in Pittsburgh and the Pirates. I hate that family because they don't do anything. So with Tepper getting involved 14 and a half billion down there in carolina he's making some moves bezos wants to get involved and now you got a team still that doesn't have an owner you're going to be miles behind whenever big bank tepper walks in there and wants to make some rules or something like that the thing that i like really don't get either is a number that keeps getting thrown around as his cap hit is like they can save 22.6 million dollars in like 2022 yeah is it like is it worth it is getting rid of aaron rogers worth 22.6 million dollars in cap space salary

caps going up to 250 million they said for the couple years. Let's get to the poll here, and then we'll get to a break. I can't wait for the phone calls on the other side. Hell yeah. About everybody's weekend. What do people talk about? But I can't wait to hear what the poll says about our poll today. Oh, what do we got? Will Aaron Rodgers be the quarterback for the Green Bay Packers beyond the upcoming NFL season?

Yep. Says 69%. Nope. 31%. Already 14,000 votes. 69% of the people that have voted on this poll on YouTube say he's going to stick around. That is fascinating

because I don't think people understand the situation enough. Yeah. One year guaranteed money left on this contract. That is basically no contract after this year, especially at the quarterback position and somebody that'll be 37 years old. That deal either has to get extended. Neither side wants to go into this year without a new deal. Yeah.

If they do go into this with no new deal, is Aaron going to be on the road? Is he going to be a Green Bay Pack? No way. Is Aaron going to be on the road? Is he going to be a Green Bay Packer? No way. Is he going to retire? He said on Shailene Woodley's Instagram, no, I ain't retiring. All left. Hey.

We're good, huh? Did you hear that little... How many people on earth do that? Not enough. She's got to walk on fingers. You know beginning? Oh, strut. How many people on earth do that? Only a couple probably. Not enough. She's got to walk on fingers.

Oh, yeah. You know what I mean? Quick fingers. Quick fingers. Carlos Santana. Oh. Yeah. Slash.

Joe Bonamassa. Yeah. I always say his name because I think he's a very good... I think he's like in the guitar world. Like if guitar people were to watch this, they'd get pissed off probably about, you know, like the super guitar community. So I always always try to i went into their community one night yeah kind of looked around i think that's the answer that like you know highly respected guitar judges would say he's a jay bonamassa you're talking about jay bonamassa of course so i just give

our show a little bit of a defense mechanism sure that it looks like we know we're talking about but to be clear i have never heard joe bonamassa's fingers on a guitar but it sounds beautiful hey he's good yeah joining us now is another person who is good at what they do an insider from the nfl also hosts a rap sheet and friends which is a riveting conversation that people are waiting eagerly for the next episode to drop. Ladies and gentlemen, Ian Rappaport. How you doing, little loose tie? I'm all done waiting, so that'll be fun. When are you going to do that?

Are you going to do that show ever? What's going on? It wouldn't now be the time? I mean, now would be a great time. I'm in control of many things. That is not one. I am hopeful for the reboot. Oh, it got canceled.

Oh, no. No, your show got canceled? Wow. No, it didn't get canceled. It's rebooted. Wow. Sounds like. Oh, my God.

I'm so sorry to bring that up every time. Yeah, big news. I got a good story for you. Want to hear it? No, no, no. I can tell it on the podcast. Ian, Ian. Every time I bring on the podcast. I'm not Ian. Ian.

Every time I bring it up, you should have told me. I feel bad now that we brought up. It did not get canceled. Okay, good. It did not. Well, we're happy. We're fans. I love it.

We're fans. I stopped it because I wanted to reboot it and go in a little bit of a different and kind of whatever direction with more things. I wanted to follow in your footsteps. And there's things in discussions. And we'll see what happens. Okay. All right.

We can't wait to watch and listen, whatever it's going to be. Good tease, by the way. And also, Ian, by the way, hey, I'm up to something, too. Maybe. But what's the story? You've got a good story. What are we talking about? I got a good story.

So I was in Mississippi with my wife's family and talking to one of her relatives, talking to one of her relatives. And he told me this story. So he was kind of mentioning, mentioned me, mentioned my wife, Leah, to this friend of his. And it's like okay whatever whatever and then he says and then max and jude who are the names of my two sons and the guy goes wait jude jude rapaport oh from the pat mcafee show and he was like he brought his cat on that day right and the guy was like yeah like oh that's like, oh, that was great. Love the Macca. So

I didn't get recognized. It was actually Jude for bringing his cat on your show. Hey, well, shout out Jude. That's awesome. And shout out to whoever remembered that happening on the show. You know what I mean? Because that fan is dedicated. So we...

Hats off to you. Hey, cheers to whoever you are, Don Mississippi. I don't know. Probably, hey, I would what I mean? Because that fan is dedicated. Hats off to you. Cheers to whoever you are down in Mississippi. I don't know. Probably A. I would assume. I'm not 100% certain, but I assume down here in Mississippi. We're talking. Oh, yeah.

Splatoon. Oh, we got a Splatoon? Does that guy have a Splatoon there? Was there a ding? I would say likely, but I couldn't confirm. Okay. Let's not judge a book by its cover, but I appreciate them down there and everybody listening and watching.

We also appreciate you and your time because we know your mind is one that knows more than us about some things, not all things. But let's talk about a little bit of the, not all things. Let's talk about a little bit of the inside information happening right now. At the top of the draft, we know Trevor Lawrence going to Jacksonville. Okay. Check mark. We're all there.

We've all bought in since the pro day where Urban Meyer and he set up his surgery or whatever. At two was Zach Wilson, and then at three with Mac Jones. Now there's conflicting reports that they're not sold. Are they sold? What are you hearing? And do you think draft night is potentially going to be a pretty big night of action? It's weird to me when the big trade happens before the draft. We've seen some where it has and some where it hasn't, right?

And it does feel like the craziness almost has already happened with the 49ers trading up and the Dolphins trading back and trading up again. So I feel like those trades, it's more fun for me, more fun for everyone if those trades happened before draft night. But they didn't. So I still think we could get some intrigue here because I think you're right on one and two. But number three, the 49ers are doing all the work, right? So they're going to Ohio State for Justin Fields' second pro day.

They're going to North Dakota for Trey Lance's second pro day. They're all going to be there. And they're going to do the thing where they evaluate everyone. I believe there is a leader in the clubhouse. I don't know who, although the conventional wisdom is that it's Mac Jones, but I know there's been no final decision. I believe Trey Lance would also be heavily in the conversation in San Fran. So we'll see which way they go.

Probably the most interesting quarterback decision we've seen in some time, especially if it's Mack Jones, who I think some people view as more of a mid to late first rounder. Okay. And some people are potentially media people or team people you talk to? Team people. Okay, cool. But it also sort of like, I kind of don't know if it matters, right? Because if the 49ers have number three and they just want to get their guy and they know that he is going to be their franchise starter for 10 years, then it doesn't matter what anyone else thinks and they should just go get him.

But that pick, how sold they are on Mac Jones at three, if that is it, is going to be the most fascinating pick we've seen in a very, very long time. Out of the 32 owners, you only need one to be interested. A lot better if two are, though. A lot, lot better. Life is a lot better if two or more are in that entire thing. So you think Zach Wilson to the Jets is

a locked up, and then allegedly now the Falcons are thinking quarterback there with Matt Ryan owed like $100 million and him not being traded by this point. You would assume they're going to take that on. Are they really thinking quarterback or is there a thought they're thinking narrative that they want people to think they're thinking quarterback so they trade up to potentially

get that particular pick? I would say first on Zach Wilson, I think he probably does go number two. Okay, congrats, Zach. Joe Douglas basically came out and said at his press conference, like, yeah, I think everyone's been on it. And I'm like, okay, that's not a confirmed. Who said that? Who said that?

Joe Douglas at his press conference. He basically said, like, people seem to know our plans. And then was like, so, I mean, wow. Oh, so he's bullshitting it that i would have to watch that back that's him calling you guys out saying that everybody has our plans etched in stone but maybe i didn't hear the delivery was the inference that you guys are full of shit in the insider was that the inference from joe douglas i don't know It was kind of deadpan. Oh! So maybe we shouldn't have congratulated Zach. Yeah, not yet. Oh, good for Joe.

I mean, I think it's going to be him, but that was a real... Joe Dean's got the Oreo. It's like, you know, some old takes exposed kind of stuff. He'd be like, oh, thanks, guys. I'm going to love New York. And then it's not. The Falcons, though, just as interesting there because you're right. They have Matt Ryan for a lot of money.

Not going to trade him this year. But they do have a little bit of a luxury, and they can take, if they want, a quarterback. And a lot of the people I speak with think that the Falcons go quarterback. They have the luxury of just having someone sit for a year or two years and just taking their time like you you know you hope to never get to pick that high but if you are you might as well take a quarterback and just figure it out right because you'd rather have them than not so i mean that's the way if i had to guess right, that would be my guess on that. And there might be a massive offer to get up to four, depending upon what the first three picks do, too.

So the Falcons are sitting in a pretty good spot there. The thought, though, of drafting a guy at four overall and then basically telling him he's going to sit for two years is an interesting kind of social uh you get it experiment there how is that going to pay i don't know that that's an interesting because matt ryan too could potentially be like well what is going on yeah i don't know that's a weird thing but like you said you never know when you're going to be in the top four pick mike tomlin told chase young i don't ever want to lose as many games to get somebody like you or whatever that looks like you which

is real once you're up there looks like you, which is real. Once you're up there in the top five, that is a promise ground both for other people's shit and for something potentially awesome that's a franchise changer. Everybody's talking about Kyle Pitts, Ian. Is there going to be moves to get up to get Kyle Pitts? Everybody's saying he's the only guarantee, aside from Trevor Lawrence, future all-pro in this entire draft is Kyle Pitts. Do you think anybody makes a move to go get them?

It's most of the moves up. We see, especially at that point of the draft or for quarterbacks, right? Like it's rare. You have the Sammy Watkins deal a couple of years back. Actually a lot of years back now. You just don't see that many move ups for non quarterbacks.

You know, Kyle Pitts kind of makes me think of is Quentin Nelson. Because everyone I know he's a guard, but everybody was in love with him. The whole world. Right? So that's what Kyle Pitts is. I haven't even I couldn't even give you

in my notes right over there, which you can't see. I don't have anything negative about him. Everybody loves him. I know he's a tight end, so it's not like a premium premium position but he could go if he went four nobody would say that's overdrafting they'd be like wow great player so i don't know where he's going to go but it's going to be very high um and everybody is in love with him okay let's talk about another player that everybody was in love with whenever he was coming into the draft and since then has had a great career but maybe not as many highlights as everybody would expect but still garnering a lot of interest

allegedly jdavion clowny allegedly has interest from the ravens and the colts but the browns seem to be the most interested a flight got canceled this weekend so now that he's rescheduling his trip back to cleveland on wednesday is a deal done over there in a year ago they tried to get clowny on there with miles garrett on that defensive front a year after over there? And a year ago, they tried to get Clowney on there with Miles Garrett on that defensive front. A year after now, here we are, make a playoff playoff win. A lot of hope in Stefanski. Is Clowney in Cleveland something that's destined to happen

over there, Rappaport? How about this? You know what he turned down in Cleveland last year, right? Three for 57. That is what he turned down. And I don't think he's going to get that here. I mean, if he does end up signing, it'll probably be a shorter term deal.

Who's your source? Who's your source on the three-year 50-something? Was that a legit thing yet? Yeah, it's pretty legit. Because he ended up, remember, ended up signing a one-year deal, but like three months after that original offer. Okay.

Yeah, because it was post-training camp, everything like that. It was kind of chill. Right. So basically what Clowney did was hijack my entire summer, which let's just hope he signs this week so I don't have to do Clowney again next year. Saying, like, I got golf to play.

Clowney! Clowney gives a single fuck about Ian Rappaport's golf game. How is your golf game? Pretty good? I haven't played yet this offseason. I might get one run in before the draft. After the draft, I'll be playing a lot.

I am very mediocre. Okay, very. You even, towards the end of after the draft, before the season starts, where there's nothing really happening, that's big, so you don't have to be on your phone all the time. How does your game get to?

Do you get to be pretty good, or do you lose money every time you're on the course? I don't lose money. I don't gamble because that would be illegal. I would say... Why'd you laugh? That was very quick. That was very good.

Anyway, I would say I start out a little rough and then by the end, it's all public so you can look it up if you want to. I'm a 10 now. I was a, and then by the end, I mean, it's all public, so you can look it up if you want to. I'm a 10 now. I was a 12 when I started last year. I got down to about a 9 handicap, and now I'm about a 10.

So I'm mediocre. Okay, you're a player. What do you have in common? Yeah, rap sheet. There's a report from Michael Lombardi that the Washington football team was really high on Trey Lance. Is that real? And if they were to trade up, would that be a draft night move? It would be a draft night move if they were to trade up Would that be a draft night move? It would be a draft night move

If they were going to move up I would say They've done a lot of homework on quarterbacks So Lance is the one Let's say Lance doesn't go forward to the Falcons Which we just discussed Then I don't know where he goes So he might be someone who goes from

Four through the top ten and maybe is available at like 10, 11, 12. And if the Washington football team is interested, and they do have some interest, then maybe that would be a trade-up scenario. But that would be, you know, talk about the storylines as they develop from the draft. If Falcons don't go Trey Lance at four, I'm not sure where he goes.

So then it's going to be like, who would trade up and take him? I think that's going to be really, looking at it right now, like Eagles take quarterback, probably not. Chargers, no. Vikings, no. Patriots, maybe. Cardinals, no. I mean, you get into Washington pretty quick there. They could make a quick trade up and it would probably be worth it if they believe he's their quarterback for the future. Okay. So the Broncos there at nine or whatever whatever can i talk to you about the broncos real quick because now there's a report yeah that they did have an offer out for matthew stafford and then the way the rams came out and won that thing that's true how many it feels like from the

outside looking in it feels like the broncos have been in a lot of quarterback conversations at this point and what's our do you think they're going to make a move for a quarterback? What do you think their plans are, especially with Drew Luck now definitely knowing all of these things potentially happened? Well, there's two things that are going on because they were in, I think they were in all the quarterback conversations. So like, and that's one thing about George Payton. I mean, Minnesota used to be involved in every single trade talk, and I think the Broncos have been involved in all of them too. He likes to get in the mix and see what's there.

So Drew Locke knows that. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. I love the fact that there's a GM that's like, oh, what's going on? What's going on? Who do we have here?

What do we think? Who needs? Who needs? You need what? Oh, can't do it. God. I love that that's potentially how a GM operates. There's like five of them now.

That's why all these trades have happened because you got like, Howie Roseman wants to be involved in every single trade talk. Scott Fitter with the Panthers now. Every single trade talk. Payton with the Broncos. They just want to be, John Schneider will be in every single trade talk. If something happens, but that's why we've seen more trades. Oh, that's awesome.

Who's available? Who's available? I ain't good enough. I can't. Let's go get it. I got a guy. Oh, I got two guys. All right. It's fantasy football all of a sudden happening out there. I mean, this has been our offseason the last three years, kind of, right? I mean, that's why we've seen so many trades.

It's starting to kind of pick up a little bit, and it's only going to expedite that whole thing and i said this uh maybe a week or two ago and i'm assuming i'm not the only person that thought of it i am a phm i have a multiple a multitude of philosophies but the the thought do you know what the ph and phd stands for i was pharmacology pharmacology no no no no idea that was a great guess yeah sure for who it's philosophy it's a the doctor the d is doctor and you're a doctor of philosophy i guess but anyways i have a multitude of philosophies on PHM, and one of them is once this 17-game season succeeds here and the money booms and they've got this super wild-card weekend now, it's easy to think that there's an 18-game schedule coming much sooner than the 16-game to 17-game jump, right?

Don't you think? Am I wrong in thinking that with kind of like where the money's going? They're saying a $250 million salary cap is attainable in four years. Amazon's getting in the game. Apple, let's assume they'll get in the game. There's going to be a lot of money that is going to be asking for more product. And the NFL adds another game. They add two more games to Wild Card Weekend. Are we seeing a potential growth in the season here with this gateway drug of the 17th

game potentially becoming 18 seriously though that's a real feels like my seventh grade health videos um i i think it would take a while like i don't think you're crazy and not about this but i just think it would take a while because this was like in a way this was like the reaction to the pandemic like this was in the cba It was a lever they could pull. All right, 17 games, more money. Everyone benefits, right, because the players basically split it or a little less. So this made sense. To do the next one, you'd have to have a reason for it.

And I don't know just the, all right, we could all get a little bit richer than we already are is enough of a reason. So, like, I don't know. It's nice. I mean, being rich is nice. I don, like, I don't know. It's nice. I mean, being rich is nice. I wouldn't know. You would maybe know more than me, but I just don't know that it's something that would make it imminent.

I've been broke. I've been rich. It is pretty cool. But I just assumed with everybody's pockets getting bigger and maybe the demand for more product or whatever, I just assumed it would happen there. Other things that are potentially changing with the NFL, and we're talking to Ian Rappaport,

who is one of the voices of the national football. That's right. The conversations that are happening, the competition committee is meeting, and obviously these particular meetings is when rules get made and changed and everything like that. The sky judge rule is one that we were super pumped about here in this particular office,

because we saw the XFL instituted the old Xbox controller video right to the ear of the ref on the field, who I was standing literally right next to as a reporter didn't have to move hey this is what we see this is why you're wrong let's go ahead and pick up that flag and move forward it seemed to expedite the entire process and be quick the NFL allegedly pitched that maybe to help the review process now they're out on it what what are you hearing on this particular thing and what should we expect coming out of these meetings and what rules are coming?

Yeah, I think this will be the news after the draft. There's going to be a league meeting in May, which could end up actually being where all the rules get. First of all, it could be in person, which we'll see, but that would be kind of fun to see humans again.

Oh, are we handshaking? No, no, no. Handshakes are done forever. Hey, good to see humans again. Oh, we handshake? Okay. No, no, no handshakes. I'm out. No, no, no. Handshakes are done forever. Hey, good to see you. Fair enough. Just fist bumps.

Elbow slash wrist. Just give a little. That's the word when I see people at like, you know, soccer practice or Little League, whatever, just the hand. I don't get it. No shakes. Anyway. It's closer to your inner hand.

Hey, I want to let you know. Seems like that's closer to the inner hand than if you were to just maybe turn that thing around. Yeah. Be careful. Because, look, it can sneak in the side door here. You ever try to hold water in your palm? It's always going to sneak out. When you do this one here, it feels like COVID could jump right up in there.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So just fist, you think? Yeah. I think when you stay here. I think. Yeah. I don't. I mean, it makes sense. I'm sneezing into my elbow. right up in there yeah yeah yeah so just fist you think yeah i think i think yeah i mean it makes sense i'm sneezing into my elbow why would i want to elbow bump someone oh wow yeah because now you're trying to now you're like hey grab sheet hey no handshakes we can sneeze in our

hands again you're right no handshakes then you sneeze directly into oh yeah oh even better yeah because that would be actually customary now. Good call. COVID cowboy who's an immunicorn. So you're actually thinking about other people, which we do appreciate. Anyways, these rules, though, these rules that are potentially – Yeah, I mean, it's interesting that the Sky Judge has been a tough sell, but it kind of has been.

And, you know, you're talking about the 18 games and how fast that could come. All these changes are so incremental. I mean, the only thing that went really, really fast was the, you know, where past periods could be reviewed, and obviously that did not go great. Whoa! Whoa! Hey!

Whoa! I don't know if you saw that. It was a couple of seasons ago. It was kind of a thing. Whoa! Listen. It didn't go great. It didn't go great because your employer was demanding Alberto River on have this ridiculous

amount of evidence to overturn the call. The entire world would agree on a call and all of a sudden out of Alberto's mouth to whatever stooge ref was on the field was coming out and they would disagree with all of us. I think it would have worked. It was executed improperly. I don't know about any of that. Plus, I have no official opinion. Real quick, off record.

Nobody's listening? Just you and me here? Are you allowed to talk about something like that? No. Probably not. I probably am, but I wouldn't. Have you ever gotten told? Have you ever gotten told, like, hey, stay away? People aren't interested in my opinion. Unless it's informed.

Hey, we are. Our show stinks, but we appreciate your opinion over here a lot. So anyway, big changes always take a million years, and for some reason, it doesn't seem like the sky judge has really taken hold like

I don't know I'm not sure this is going to be the year either it seems to make a lot of sense it would also be a lot of a lot of cooks in the whatever kitchen thing you know so I don't know might be another year for the sky judge we'll see we'll see in May if I can see people in person and maybe ask them about it

well I'll tell you if you can't take the heat get the fuck out of the kitchen make a decision for everybody, okay? I don't care how many cooks are in there. Get old buddy with the British accent, big blonde hair. Gordon Ramsey. Get him in there and he'll start counting all the cooks and tell them what to do. Let's get this thing right. Let's go ahead and sell some food out here.

Yeah, rap sheet. JC Treader came out and said he would urge players to boycott if teams do in-person OTAs. Is this going to be a problem down the road, or will this get settled soon? It's going to be a beef. They can't have boycotts without a little bit of confrontation. It's going to be a thing until it gets settled. I think this is what's going on right now, the NFL and the NFLPA

are going back and forth on what the offseason is going to look like. The NFL can say, based on the rules, that it's, you know, here's what's in person. So I would expect, from what I'm told, some to be in person, to have some sort of OTAs or minicamper, something normal, something normal. So I don't know what it's going to be. And you know, if Treader gets everyone to boycott, it would be interesting, but it would be the first time that players would be all in unison on anything in the history of the world.

It's just too many of them. Yeah, that's why you were talking there. I don't know if you heard me back here. Yeah, I know exactly what's going to happen because the way you just said the NFL can list it as this, that means the NFL has already decided like, hey, we'll say it's voluntary. Hey, it is voluntary. You don't have to come. Now, we will report potentially who's here and who isn't here.

I assume there will be some younger guys that maybe have never gotten an opportunity. They'll be here. If you'd like to be here, it'll be one of those things where it'll become a PR thing and there's no chance the players will win because it's like, go do your job. What, you only work six months? That's just the easy. Now, granted, players. It seems we've seen something like this before, no? Oh, dude. This feels very familiar. You gotta remember, I was a part of

the lockout year, you know? The part of the lockout year. And my friends are all very big NFL fans. I think that is potentially why, you know, I come from a massive NFL fanhood community, basically, which is, I think, why some of this show actually works. But during that lockout, I'd go see somebody. It was awesome. I loved it. I absolutely loved it. I think, why some of this show actually works. But during that lockout, I'd go see somebody. It was awesome. I loved it. I absolutely loved it. I think they should do it.

Every offseason, I thought that. But I'd go see my friends. They're like, why don't you guys go back to fucking work? We're locked in. It's on a strike, okay? It's allowed. Fuck you. That is not how it goes at all.

The PR is always, always problematic for the players in this whole thing. Ty, what do you have? Ian, what the hell is going on in Green Bay? An article came out that said Rogers' contract situation is impeding them from signing free agents, but then they haven't done a damn thing with it. Have you heard anything about what's going on up there? Yeah, I mean, I would say the Packers aren't big free agent guys anyway. I know.

I mean, they re-signed Aaron Jones, who's their own guy, which is a lot of money, and that's technically a big free agent even though he was theirs. That's not where they roll unless they feel like they absolutely had to, like when they signed the Smith brothers a couple years ago. It made it difficult at the beginning because basically they wanted him to just convert it for salary cap space. He wanted an extension. They didn't do either. So they just kind of moved on to giving other players, you know, doing that to other players.

Like Zedaria Smith got his thing converted, which, you know, just creates cap space. Doesn't give anyone anything. But it did stall them for a little bit. Now, how many guys would the Packers have signed? I have no idea. They basically re-signed, you know, almost all of their own guys except for Linsley. But it's a thing. I mean, it's definitely like, you know, based on his contract now, just based on his contract,

there's no guarantees he's with Green Bay after this year. So I don't know what could happen. I mean, definitely because they haven't done anything, I've left it open. Ian, I want to let you know, we all say that as well, because it's reality. If you look at the business of the NFL, when there's only one year of guarantees left,

everybody's automatically going to question, okay, especially at that quarterback position. If it was punter, by the way, nobody's having this conversation. It's the MVP, it's quarterback, it's the whole thing. You have to have the convo. Packers fans do not want to hear it, though. They do not want to hear it. They're going to be mad at you for saying what you just said,

just like they get pissed off at me. We all want Aaron to be in Green Bay for the next 10 years. Me, what? I mean, hey, look, if he wants to come to New England, I'm off the page on that. Ian, feel free. Ian, thank you. Oh, Pittsburgh, maybe.

Listen, Ian, thanks for stopping by. Next Ian, thank you. Oh, Pittsburgh, maybe. Hey, listen, Ian, thanks for stopping by. Next time, bring Jude. We'd all appreciate it. I will do that. I'll upgrade your guest list. Thank you, guys. I'm going to go back to my real job now. Hey, Ian, you are awesome.

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because I think it was something that nobody would have expected. AJ Hawk, massive weekend for you, huh? Want to talk about it? Want to talk about it? Yeah, I got a late invite to the Masters, and so I was... Whoa! Click, clack, this dude's at the derby. Okay, living high. This guy is at the American Century Championship

golf tournament of the celebrity. And this guy is going to the mass, ladies and gentlemen, A.J. Hawk. A.J. Hawk. A.J. Hawk. A.J. Hawk. Hey, COVID cowboy, good work there. One little extra one to kind of close it home there.

But, AJ, you're a blue-collar hero, pal. You're a stupid Ohio kid. You're not supposed to be at all these places. Look at you at the Masters walking the grounds down there. Yeah, you're right. I guess it pays to have friends that have connections. And luckily, Jordy Nelson actually texted me late Friday and said, hey, I got an extra ticket Sunday if you can get down here.

I made it work, and I came back last night. Jordy took off from his softball tournament to go down to the Masters. How was it? So cool. By the way, Jordy, we've got to talk to him, what, two times now on this show? Yeah. I think we're going out to Kansas to do something at some point eventually. Yeah, I can't wait for it.

I saw a video of him chasing down cows at a state fair at one point there, so we're going to go do that. Seems like coolest dude of all time. I'd assume you feel that way about him, yeah? Yeah, Jordy, he's the absolute man. All around, like, just awesome guy, and he's also a lot of fun to do anything with, especially to go to something like the Masters or any kind of event. Jordy is a guy that brings a lot of value, I think.

Did you do a lot of walking? A lot of walking? A lot of walking, huh's that shit's like this and like this too i seem to because they're talking about you know the the decline on this hill is much more than it looks like on tv and i'm like really are they mountain climbing are they are they alex honnold over there is it is it a lot of a lot of uh you know tough terrain to to walk around over there it's definitely very hilly up and down. I mean, you know to expect that. I posted up a few times.

Smart. You're not allowed to even bring your phone in. Like, you go through metal detectors and everything. So I guess there's a place you can check your phone by the gate if you want to come back and check it. I don't know. But we just left him in the car, and I had to go to the airport at like 5 o'clock.

I was being picked up. They said, all right, meet back here. It's like you're in third grade back in the day before your phones and everything. Hey, your parents dropped you off. I'll pick you up nine hours later right here. So I had to figure out where that was. We got there at 8.30 in the morning. The first group didn't tee off until 10.

And I stayed until 5. And I got separated from the three other people I was with at probably 10.45 and I never saw them again. I'm not saying that. A lot of time on my own to reflect. So it's just you and your thoughts roaming around Augusta

wondering where, because there's no chance you're going to find them. It is huge. And by the way, everybody's dressed the same too. Everyone's dressed like a golfer. So I didn't fret. I said that I posted up a few different spots that people told me to, and I kept my eyes peeled the whole day,

and guess what? For six straight hours, I never found who I was looking for. Did you sell out? Did you try to join any other groups at any other time, and did you join any other groups? Was there anybody that looked familiar? You walked up and you're like, hey, how's it going, guys? How's it going? Did you join any other time? And did you join any other groups? Was there anybody that looks familiar? You walk up, you're like, hey, how's it going, guys? How are you doing? Master, bro.

Did you join any other groups while you're kind of roaming aimlessly around Augusta for six hours? Well, I thought about it a few times. I made a big mistake. I assumed it's Augusta and you can't smoke cigars. And every once in a while, I'd be sitting in my little spot, and I'd be like, I'll catch a whiff if somebody had a cigar. And I never asked anybody to bum a cigar, but I definitely should have.

If I would have brought a box of Ken cigars, I would have smoked them all, and it would have been the greatest day ever. So you talked to nobody. I thought it would be like that at the Masters, by the way. It was great, though. It was great. It was. No, what I'm saying is I hate that I got mixed up.

I hate that I got lost from my group. Was it like Kevin in Home Alone? How did you? No, I just went about. I just assumed I would eventually find them. Like, hey, okay, here. I know we talked about watching Speets coming up. I'm going to follow him for a little bit.

Maybe I'll find a way to see them across the fairway or whatever. And then all of a sudden, 430 hits. I got to find a way to get out to the North Gate where I'm getting picked up. And I just make the trek on back and get in the plane and come on home. It was somebody you didn't expect to see that you saw that you were definitely too scared to go talk to. Oh, no, I didn't see anyone like that. Really?

I thought that was the big deal. That's why you can't have phones out there because you never know who's going to be walking around. I'm sure there is. But I mean, you had to be wearing masks the whole time. And I wasn't really, I mean, I was watching the big deal. That's why you can't have phones out there because you never know who's going to be walking around. I'm sure there is, but, I mean, you had to be wearing masks the whole time. I mean, I was watching the golfers. I basically just ate all the different kind of food Augusta has and was getting the nice draft beer sitting there by myself. How was that cheese sandwich?

Terrible. I would never try that, never. You said you tried all the food. No, no. I said I ate a lot of food. I didn't try all of the food. I bought a bunch. I think you got a little lost in your mind. I think I ate a lot of food. I didn't try all of the food. I bought a lot of food. I think you got a little lost in your mind.

I think you got a little lost there. Maybe I said I tried all of the food. I will not try the pimento cheese situation. That's not really my thing. Any good cookies or anything in there? Any good treats? Any what? Cookies? Cookies?

No, I didn't have any of those. I ate enough chicken sandwiches that they have there. I bought the trail mix and things, and I saved my little souvenir cups for my beers, so brought those home how many did you have down there three four were they big boys now they weren't that big they were probably 16 ounces yeah i don't know three or four yeah it's the most beer i've had in a while i was just sitting there by myself like all right maybe i'll find somebody i know eventually by the way i think that was life in like 1990 no internet no phones just drinking beer all by yourself.

How fine. You know what I realized, though? All of a sudden I got picked up, and I started thinking. I'm like, I haven't spoke for six hours. Other than to say thank you to the people I bought food from, that's all I said. What an experience. When did you fly down?

Did you see both days? No, just, ticket was just for Sunday. So I flew in Saturday night and then just got up and went right to the course. What a fucking experience. Hey man, happy you got to, hey, that's Augusta. It's going to happen sometimes. When you take a trip back in time, you know, no phone. They go through metal what is going so

that's so no photos can be taken no nothing can be taken there's not i could understand masters i could understand like if you bring your phone out like hey put your phones away it's masters like it's a show or whatever but the thought that because i mean you could very easily see how you could get lost for six hours roaming the grounds. Just like you probably had, was that worst case scenario there at the Augusta? No. No, it's not worst case. I mean, it turned out great. I wish I would have been able to hang with the guys I came with,

but it wasn't like it was a great trip. I still had a great time. It was a beautiful place. What golfer, did you get to see Matsuyama at all? Who did you get to watch? Did you see any good shots that we got to see on TV? Yeah, well, I mean, I got there an hour and a half before the first group teed off, so yeah, I got to see a lot of the guys

in the field. I followed Spieth for a bit. I was hoping he'd make a run. The skinny guy. Zalatorris. I watched that dude for eight or nine holes, man. The crowd was loving him. That guy was dialed in. He was locked in. Very impressive. And I followed

Bryson for a little bit. He was awesome. He was out of it. So he started. The great thing was they only allowed 3,200 spectators, I think. So it's way down. So you could actually get front row and see those guys. Bryson pulled three out once.

And everyone at the tee box is like, oh, man. And he kind of sat and looked at everybody. And he threw it back in the bag and grabbed the big dog. And he started going crazy. Bro, he's starting to become a showman. He's starting to become a showman. And even that's back in the bag and grabbed the big dog. He was going crazy. Bro, he's starting to become a showman. He's starting to become a showman. That's awesome. Hey, you know the best part, though?

He's like, what? He's like, I'm three over there. I'm way out of it anyway. Who cares? Oh, he's doing bits. He's doing bits. Let's go. He bombs a drive into the left woods.

Oh, my God. Oh, yes. It was awesome. He's awesome. That's great for golf, by the way. Imagine when that's on TV And there's a big crowd packed out Whenever he's out in Arizona

If he's in any of that stuff And he has like the You know he pulls out like an iron or something And everybody Oh he puts it back in the bag a little bit He pulls out another one Then he brings out the driver That would be fucking Electric another one. Boo! Then he brings out the driver.

That would be fucking electric. Welcome back, golf, if that's happening. We talked about it. It was cool to watch, man. It was a,

obviously, anytime something is the first ever to happen in the long-ass time we've been around, the first time ever is a cool thing.

First Japanese golfer to win the Masters. That was really awesome. Were you there for the celebrations? You have to leave before that, I guess. No, I watched him win from the little airport lounge with old Bernhard Langer was in the lounge too. Oh, nice.

Bernhard, of course. Great golfer himself. What a day, AJ. What? Bernhard Langer. Legend, dude. What? He's Bernhard Langer. Legend, dude. Great German golfer. Oh, really? Sharp with the eyes.

My God. Langer to banger. So you and Langer to banger out there? Just hanging out? I didn't technically say anything. He won the Masters twice? Congrats to Langer. Good work, Langer.

I thought you were supposed to be standing in that, like, the... In Baller Cabin. The picture thing. Yeah, the picture thing they do. Langer's like, oh, I'm fucking done with it. Sticking around. Nine, dude. Should have looked for Fitz Magic, AJ.

He was hanging out up there. Yeah, did you see Fitz? Did you get to talk to anybody cool? No, you said no. You saw nobody. I saw nobody and I spoke to nobody. Bro. I feel like that's aj's dream day yeah it was like a weird like reset like okay all of a sudden like 11 did you not think you missed everything did you not did you not think

to yourself like a couple hours in there like, I wonder if maybe the world just blew up? What's going on? There was never a thought. I would be, the anxiety I think I would feel would be, I feel like I would miss everything. How long would you last if that happened to you? I don't know. 30 minutes maybe.

Not even. Over the master? Dude, I'd be sitting like this. I'd be sitting like this. It would be probably a five second, five, ten maybe minutes. I don't know. I'm like, all right. I'll watch it. I need my phone. I'll watch sitting like this. I'd be sitting like this. It would be like probably a five second, five, 10, maybe minutes. I don't know. I'm like, all right, I'll watch it. I need my phone.

I'll watch it on there. I don't know how you did it. I'm so impressed by that. It was nice. It was nice. People say like, oh, it's a good, like, I thought I would be that way that I'd want to check my phone or whatever, be worried. Like, but no, like it's, I don't like having a phone to begin with.

If I didn't have a wife and kids, I probably wouldn't use a phone. But I did not mind not having one. What are you going to go live out in the fucking woods? No, I'm a chalk. No, I need a phone to I need a phone to listen to, like the podcast I listen to and music. But other than that, I don't need one. OK, man, you're fucking power to you. You're awesome. This yesterday was awesome.

Yeah. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. Cool. I made the best of it. A few times I was like, man, I bet some people would really struggle with this. They'd be worried that they can't find their group and everything.

And I just relaxed and just let it go. You use this as a mental test. Like, hey, this isn't an obstacle. This is an opportunity. How would other people react versus how will I react in this situation? I'll tell you what, you did much differently than I. I would have been trying to find a crew to hang with. Yeah, I was shooting the shit with somebody.

It was nice. I got to overhear a lot of the golf banter being spoken from everybody. That was very fun to hear the different things going about, but I took advantage of not having to listen to anybody else. I was like, okay, we're going to go to 15 and 16 and 19. People want to do all this stuff.

I was like, do I want to stand up and go get some more peanuts and maybe go find Bryson or whatever? Okay, yeah, let's do that. I'll leave this little chair here and come back later. Brother, 19th green at 9. Man, be careful. I can't tell if it's like your camera or what, but it looks like your neck is absolutely barbecued.

Did you get sunburned really bad yesterday? Did you take a trip to the sun? Yeah. Probably, yeah. I mean, I was out there for a while. I was loading up on suntan lotion because I am super pale. Well, did you wear the bucket cap or what you have, just flat bill? Just a regular hat, sunglasses, yeah.

Oh, jeez. Can't do that. You got to wear the full bucket cap, dude. Believe me, that's another thing of being by myself. I didn't have to worry about pushing up to see things. I sat back in the shade a lot of times and just from a distance because you're on your own time you're doing masters your way hey jordy so jordy stayed into that like the the ending ceremonies did everything he was leaving later that night and he texted me he's like hey man where'd you go are you all right

this is like seven hours late this is after i was in i was in atlanta on my connector when i got that jordy's talking to somebody too that is maybe a mutual friend of yours aj was here This is like seven hours late. This is after I was in Atlanta on my connector when I got that text. Jordy's talking to somebody, too, that is maybe a mutual friend of yours. AJ was here. 10, 1045-ish. We haven't seen him, damn. Oh, dang. He's okay.

Do you think that group ever thought, like, where's AJ? Where's the hell is AJ? AJ's going to come back. Do you think they ever had those thoughts or no? I don't know. I doubt they did. Maybe they did. They probably assumed.

They're like, oh, yeah, he's probably in the bathroom. He's coming back. And then they woke up and it's 6.30 and Matsuyama just won. At what point did you split up from them, AJ? What was the conversation there? We were going back and forth from the driving range. Then they wanted to go into the merchandise area and buy a bunch of stuff stuff they make so much money in there man they sell so much oh yeah and i just kind of i cruised around did a lap bought some spf 30 suntan lotion and cruised right back out and then all of a sudden i realized all right i guess we're split up

she got left they left you out there yeah no i i i trailed off and I went to watch the first group tee off. The first group teed off, it was Adam Scott. I was like, oh, there's the course right there. And I walked out and then all of a sudden that's when I turned around and I'm like, oh, there is no way to find these guys. By the way, I love the fact that Ty's question is about your sunburn. And the reason why you were left all by yourself is because you were thinking about your potential sunburn. That is a beautiful thing. Well, let's talk about some football, shall we? Welcome back

to 2021. I heard the trip back in time was pretty electric. Have you heard anything in the NFL world that has piqued your interest today via our conversation with Rappaport or anything else popping off around the internet? I know the whole A-Rod situation from Bob Domofsky and all of that. Did Rappaport have anything on that? Bob Domofsky, I'm not sure Rappaport said anything other than we all know what's going on. I think that's basically, we all see what's going on with the one-year contract. I don't think he gave away any tips or hints on whether or not they're renegotiating right now we're working on anything or thinking about it i think he just basically echoed what we all thought right yeah he just said yeah it's very interesting that nothing's happened yet but

he really didn't you know say anything beyond that tie uh does this worry aj does this worry you at all with it does worry me yeah it definitely worries me it's lingering this is a lingering thing and listen we didn't make this up we are just telling you what is being reported by people who are inside in the reporting world or whatever it just seems like this is a lingering story i don't like it hey i don't like it one bit aj i just wonder what the back and forth has been like how much communication is going on are they negotiating a deal and it all comes down to doesn't like whether they want to commit or not that a rod is going to be the guy for the future or do they just want to give them like a one-year two-year extension that is kind of the question do you think this guy could potentially go because what's

long-term nowadays anyways everybody's like well he's not going to be our quarterback for a long term it's like well is tom brady going to win them two, three Super Bowls? Is that an okay thing to have for five years? Is that an okay thing to have on your team? Or do you want the quarterback to be great eight, nine years from now? I just think that long-term answer conversation is one that isn't real. I think at one point it was great to have a figurehead, a staple. This is what we built our team around.

But then as the game has kind of changed, I don't think it's that big of a deal. So if you can get a guy for the next five years, science is telling us, could be able to maintain a very high level. Why wouldn't you do that? That is just what we're all asking. Yeah, coming off an MVP season where he played arguably better than he has, like, you know, since they won the Super Bowl. Hey, Mike Florio said that Mark Murphy maybe has figured out a way

to reach the pissed-off levelness of Aaron Rodgers to make him the best he can possibly be. Is that a real thing? Is that a real thing? And if it is, by the way, Mark Murphy, I hope, has videos of him and certain dates being like, because this would be awesome. We're going to trade up to get a quarterback because this team, this roster,

if we get a superhuman quarterback, again, a quarterback, we could potentially make a run yet again without having to pay anybody. Let's go ahead and do that. If this is one big master plan to get him to the right pissed off level and play his best football more that's bravo i actually enjoy that whole thing well i mean i think it's possible it could get to that but i don't think it's a conscious effort by mark murphy and the packers to to try to facilitate that and like oh yep this is all part of the master plan just i mean come on

there's got to be a point right isn't there a point to where you're too pissed off or both sides are – there's just too much animosity between the two that it's not going to be good moving forward? You would think. I mean, I'm on the team like, hey, let's make human happy. Human happy work hard. He has two years left, right? He has two years left on this deal? I think three.

I think three with one year guaranteed left. So there's two years on the back end that aren't guaranteed, I think. I'm not 100% sure, but I do believe that is the setup of the thing. So if you gave him a two-year extension, that's basically a five-year deal, right? Yeah, and that's until he's 41, which feels a pretty good deal. We can re-examine here. And with what we're learning about science and how you take care of your body and the way the game's being played now,

there's a chance you're going to be able to sign another three-year two-year deal whenever you get 41 as well there's there's a chance that conversation could happen right i mean that could happen the fact that it isn't is why we're talking about it at this particular time should be happening i mean as someone who still suffers from ptsd from brady leaving if they let rogers walk out the door the whole whole entire team changes. AJ, I talked about this earlier. Peyton leaves, wins Super Bowl. Tom leaves, wins Super Bowl. Who else is on that Rushmore there, okay, if you just do this thing?

He's like, you know, probably if he walks out the door, you're potentially, we're not saying definitely, but you're potentially going to have to experience what we felt in Indianapolis. Like, well, the guy's better than he's ever fucking been somehow. And then what New England had to do with Johnny Foxborough, Tom Brady, Dunner, and Taylor. Well, to your point, like, how many more times can you do this before he's just like, fuck this. I'm not doing this anymore. You go from Favre to Rodgers. You just don't know what it's like to not have a fucking quarterback.

And you don't know what it's like to have a loser taking snaps for you. It does feel like there are some places that kind of get a little bit comfortable. You know what I mean? Get a little bit comfortable. They see other teams that happen. They mock the other teams, but they don't realize, like, oh, there's a couple things that could happen. That could be fucking us real quick. That's the NFL

though, by the way. They go over that entire 16 game era or whatever. They put out the graphic for the amount of winning percentage. Damn near everybody is at 50%, except for there's outliers that are low and then a couple people that are in the 60%, but it's hard

to win. That's the entire thing. And the ebbs and flows of this thing seem to really come. Your team could suck, and all it takes is one to two big-time decisions being made, and all of a sudden you're rebuilding, retooling, trying to figure out how the fuck you won to begin with. What's the only other team? Can you think of another place where you go from franchise quarterback to franchise quarterback other than Montana to Steve Young?

Peyton to Andrew. I think that was. That is. You're right. That classifies. But then Andrew obviously retired a little bit early. But Andrew absolutely was in line with how it worked. Carried the torch, though.

You know, he kind of took it over. Won 10 games. Like, this is what we do here in Indianapolis. And then now, you know, Phillip Rivers has been able to do it. Will Carson Wentz now potentially do that? There's a chance, yes. There's a hopeful yes. It feels like a lot of energy saying yes.

There's a chance at that. And then what do you do? Then you have to try to figure it out. But it feels like we're potentially also hitting an era where there's going to be a lot of quarterbacks available at times. But with the Green Bay Packers not having an owner, how will you be able to really get into the dance for some of the biggest free agent quarterbacks that'll be fascinating to watch

and the way tom brady got back like to sit back and pick his team like say next year this does happen rogers does get to just be able to pick imagine like the browns where he has obj running back and if you win by the way in cleveland or if you win somewhere else, oh, man, you're a hero forever. Not that you're not in Green Bay. I'm just saying. There has been previous stories that have said there is fruit to be tasted on trees elsewhere by these people that are on the top of the world in the NFL. Hypothetical.

These are all hypothetical. We're just saying. Could happen, though, and that's why you have to talk about it until this thing has some sort of answer. I don't like talking about it, but you have to talk about it until this thing has some sort of answer. I don't like talking about it, but we have to talk about it until there's an answer, AJ. So sorry to interrupt, but I want to let you know that if you're not gambling with FanDuel, you're wrong.

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Shout-out to FanDuel. Shout-out to you. Let's get back to the show. AJ, we talked more about your Masters experience during the break. You had to have the worst fucking day in Augusta history. Oh, nut job. Hey, I think the worst day in Augusta is better than, you know, the break day. Okay.

All right. All right, Hawk. Yeah, you're negative. I'm sure Nick's rubbing off on you, and you're a negative guy. But, hey, I'm not. I choose to look at it. It was an opportunity for me. You're right.

You're right. You're right. Man, if I was in that situation, though though i don't know if i would have survived i don't know how you did it i am i had no options i had no option i had a my ride said all right we're dropped off at 8 20. see you here at five what else what do i do and i was glad i was i was happy that that was the case i wanted to have time there. But yeah, like I said, what am I going to do? Walk around and pout the whole time?

Could you have been able to get your phone? No, it was gone. In the car that dropped me off with my bag. Oh, my God. Early mistake. Okay, I'm happy. Where would I put it? He said they have lockers for him.

Don't they have lockers for him or whatever? There's a place, I guess, you can check it in somewhere by, like, the front gate. Yeah. Anyways, welcome back. Who would I have called? Hey, let me call Jordy. Oh, wait, his phone is in the car, too. Right?

And I've heard it's out in the middle of nowhere, too, kind of, huh? Yeah. Did you take it? They have, you know, it's funny. They have, like, free pay phones of, huh? Yeah. Did you think? No, it's funny. They have free pay phones. They call them around the course that you could use. I'm like, okay, if I remember my old home line from my parents when I grew up, who am I going to call? Hey, that happened to me when I got into jail.

You know what I mean? They always talk about your phone call from jail. But at that point, whose number do I know? My dad's cell phone was the only thing I remembered at that point because numbers, you don't remember anything these days. You don't remember a thing. Is it out in the middle of nowhere, though? I mean, not in the middle of nowhere, but, I mean,

it's the main attraction for sure. Because John Daly sets up what at the Hooters. Hooters, Donner. Donner, Hooters. Did you see him, Donner? No, I don't know. Was he there this year? That's a good question. I don't know. Was he there this year? That's a good question.

I don't know. Maybe. I'll read this later. Did you try, like, yelling for Jordy at all? No. It's frowned upon. They don't really like you to yell there. You know what I found interesting, though, is there was places where people were walking in the back,

like during that par three. There's a par three where it just looks like two plots of land there out of nowhere you know i'm talking about then there's a little bit of water then there's there was a back walkway where some of the golfers would walk through while somebody was teeing off i was fascinated at how like normally i'd assume because it was limited to 3200 people you said is that normally like there's there's certain areas where people are and then you don't see all that stuff? Because we got to see a lot of the course, I think. Like there was a lot of like the green and the tee box.

You know, like I feel like I've seen a similar setup on a course. You know what I mean? It felt like I think the people almost hide a lot of the – I feel like we got to see behind the scenes at Augusta a little bit more this year than we had in the past. You more so than all of us, obviously. Yeah, maybe. I don't know. I don't know what the TV product looked like. I was there

wandering around myself. No big deal. Let's get some phone calls, shall we? Let's go to Russ in Michigan. What's going on, Russ? Hey, not too much. Shout out Pat. Shout out Hawkk shout out all the boys hey so i got a question about uh wrestlemania weekend and pat being the wrestling observer

rookie of the year i saw a little segment with randy orton where he was really really uh going hard on how great bad bunny was and how Bad Bunny came from outside of the business and how normally people that don't come from his world don't respect the business. And I wondered if you had any run-ins with Orton, if that was like a shot at you. But, I mean, there's like... Oh, you thought that was a shot at me?

Oh! Oh! I don't know if that was a shot at me from radio. I sure hope not. Never took it that way until you just said it. Should I have not gone to just because it's Randy Orton? The dude's like six foot six, 200 some pounds and has been wrestling for what seems to be 75 years at this point. Might be one of the toughest humans of all time who's been there, done that.

I think what he was talking about is still the thing with Soulja Boy and the potential beefs and outsiders coming into the business and everything like that. I thought Bad Bunny absolutely crushed it. I absolutely loved his performance. I thought he obviously was very dedicated. He appreciated it. He respected the art of professional wrestling, which I think as a fan of professional wrestling, you appreciate the most because back in the day when outsiders would come in, it was very obvious they are there to suck the teat of the WWE to promote whatever the fuck bullshit thing they had going on. They didn't give a damn about the actual show. Whenever you get people in there that are actual fans, understand

it a little bit, understand why it works, how it works, which Bad Bunny clearly does, it has created some incredible performances. I think what Shaq did was awesome. I don't know how he didn't break his shit. He was also very, very entertaining in the ring. I think he bought into it. And I thought what Bad Bunny did was beautiful. Absolutely beautiful.

And he uses it in the proper fashion by the way which i always wondered why the celebrities of the past didn't buy in if you buy in it's much better marketing for whatever bullshit you're pushing and whenever you come in drop in i am the host i have this book that nobody gives a fuck about all right nobody's gonna watch that but you buy in you earn the fans and then hopefully they'll follow you. Him launching the tour right off the back of it was genius, and I'm a Bad Bunny fan now. How did this come about?

I don't know enough about Bad, but has he always been talking about wrestling and trying to get in here? I'm going to be very transparent here. My knowledge on San Benito is very limited to what I've learned here over the last couple months. I'm a fan. Hey, listen.

I am a fan of his, especially after what he did at WrestleMania. I thought he was fucking awesome, but I need to do a little bit more research on the Bad Bunny because I think there's

a lot of good shit to learn, especially after his performance at WrestleMania. You think Logan Paul might get back in the ring and actually wrestle? Hey, he got stunned. He did not deserve that. No, he didn't. Logan Paul was dragged into a situation he did not deserve to get dragged.

Two friends turning against each other. These guys have been friends for decades at this point. Logan Paul, out of respect for everything going on, says, yeah, I'll come and check it out. Sure. Gets stunned right in the mouth. Inexplicable. Unbelievable.

What's the story there with Logan Paul? I feel like that's a random one to throw in there. Well, no, there was a documentary happening, a vlog series around Sami Zayn and the conspiracy from the WWE against Sami Zayn to hold him back, to not allow him to succeed. And said vlog documentary was noticed by Logan Paul, who is a fan, obviously the biggest vlog, biggest, one of the biggest vlogs, biggest documentary guys of all time. He gets him brought in to be a judge of Sami Zayn's documentary trailer that he debuted, Red Carpet Affair.

Then all of a sudden Logan Paul is involved because he gives a sign of approval or he says it's all a scam, which is what he did basically on Kevin Owens' side. And then Kevin Owens, how does he thank him and the whole thing? Stuns his neck for the goddamn ring. I mean, it's just Logan Paul did not deserve what happened. Yeah, I was surprised to see him involved. I didn't know if he was pubbing something or what's going on. How do the wrestling fans feel about when Logan Paul gets thrown in?

I'm sure they respect Bad Bunny because he did some unexpected things, right? So the thing about Logan Paul is at least he understood the fans of WWE. Let me tell you why. The way they had it go. Match ends. Sami Zayn, bad guy, loses. He's that whole thing. Logan pushes him, actually, after the match.

He falls out of the ring. Okay, he lifts Kevin Owens' hand, babyface. Celebration to the crowd. Crowd boos. Whoa. Crowd boos. Logan Paul and the guy that they were just cheering for because Logan Paul is involved. Boo, boo, boo.

See you later. Stunner to end all the things. So I think they, I think the Logan Paul understood what was going to happen and Kevin Owens obviously reacted to what happened there. But I think they knew what was going to happen in there, yeah. So I know there were some rain delays

right on Saturday night. Did they end up getting everything in or did it run to like 2 in the morning? No, they got everything in. It did run late both nights but I thought it was much better than than the one day 17 hour thing i think it was it was pretty good digestive but yeah the uh vince mcmahon god conversation went well both nights a a a definite storm uh just dispersed somehow now there was one casualty there was one slip and fall because of the rain down there in tampa bay Mandy fell on her way in, became a gift, trended worldwide immediately upon happening. But aside from that, didn't really pop off that much.

Aside from me learning that, you know, they call them the Tampa Bay lightning or whatever. I guess they legitimately are like the light, like lightning down there. or whatever. I guess they legitimately are like the light... The science experiment of that latitude and longitude, the science experiment there, I guess the lightning is fucking real down there. I guess. Damn.

That's what people were saying on the internet. I have no idea if that's real or not, but it made a lot... I was like, oh, that's why there's lightning. It must have... I thought they were electrifying, but no. Actually, there's just... Lightning all the time. We're going to have to check some stats on that. I thought they were electrifying. Lightning all the time. We're going to have to check some stats on that.

By the way, that didn't stop the WrestleMania either. But is that specific to Tampa Bay or just the whole state of Florida? We know there's pop-up thunderstorms all the time down there. Yeah, it comes and goes, doesn't it, Don? It comes out of nowhere. It's probably time for a nap, I guess. Clod's just said take a nap. I'm going to wake up on the other side and it's going to be 200 degrees.

Unbelievable. Here we go. Let's get to another phone call, shall we? Let's go to Ryan. No, we just talked about Bad Bunny actually. Ryan, sorry, we covered it right there. We thought he was dope. I thought he was awesome. Ah. Thank you, Ryan. Thank you. there. We thought he was dope. I thought he was awesome. Ah. Ah.

Thank you, Ryan. Thank you, Ryan. Shout out to Pat and the boys, though. Gotta stop being so modest, Pat. Okay, sounds good, Ryan. We appreciate you, though. The podcast, The Best Wrestling Show, period, comes out of this office with Mansouri and Madden. I hope you listen to that. I think I'm going to make

some appearances on there in the near future as well, Ryan. Shout out to you. Hey, WrestleMania'm going to make some appearances on there in the near future as well. Ryan, shout out to you. Hey, WrestleMania, I assume big hit. Will they ever get the numbers? And will we ever know the numbers? Felt like a lot of people were invested in WrestleMania this weekend. Yeah, crushing. I watched it on Peacock TV and it went off without a hitch. I thought it was awesome. Me too. There was a couple of

glitches, I thought, and everything like that. But other than that, I thought it went really well. You missed it, AJ, because you were down there getting yourself ready to walk aimlessly around the greenest grass of all time. Yeah, you're right. So did you just have to have Peacock to watch this? Yeah, but I think there's two Peacocks. There's Peacock Premium, which with the word premium, you think, oh, this is the good one. This one.

Turns out it isn't. It's Peacock Premium, and then there's like an up or something like that down here. What? You got to pay another $4.99. That's the premium one. The no commercial one? What's that? Is that the no commercial one?

Yeah, that's the premium one. The shows will still go to dark, and then they come out of dark, though, as if there was supposed to be a commercial. That's kind of interesting. Huh, that doesn't... I got to figure that out. I thought I was paying.

Blink, you're telling me. Figure that out. I thought I was paying. Blink, you're telling me. Figured that out. Blink. If you were a member, or if you subscribed to the WWE Network, did that carry into Peacock, or... No. Okay, so I'm probably still just getting charged for that,

even though it's non-existent. I need to go. I need to fucking move over to Peacock. Every month. There's a lot of good stuff on there, though. Where, on Peacock? Yeah, like on the WWE part. I think so. There's a lot of stuff over there. Now, the transition. Gacy. What's that?

The Gacy. I downloaded and watched the Gacy docuseries on the way to and from. Well, I was about to say, Peacock has taken a lot of my time as of late with WrestleMania and with the John Wayne Gacy. Young Rock? No, I watch it on Tuesday Nights Live. That's right.

Wait, you're still going to watch? Yeah, yeah. Because there's no way last week's episode will become a trend for the show. It was an anomaly. That's right. You said last week's episode was the worst half-hour television of all time, right? It was like 22 minutes of actual television. It was bad. Okay. Just making sure. To the Hall of Fame, though. He didn't want to take away from it.

From the Hall of Fame, which is WWE, which was happening at the exact same time. Good theory. I'm watching live Tuesday nights at 8. Okay. Okay. Anyways, I've been on Peacock a lot lately, and I was almost happy for him. Yeah.

It's not easy to become a new platform with a couple good strategic purposes and releases of things. You can garner some attention. Now you're going to have to keep going or whatever. That's why Netflix is so impressive. They were able to keep people just the depth of shit that they had. I think they went into massive debt, just acquiring everything. And then it kind of all came back around. So Peacock's crushing it though. And that John Wayne Gacy thing, I had not heard of it before. I haven't finished it yet, but man, it is getting ridiculous out

there. It's pretty good. I think it's like six parts. It probably could have been a few shorter. But yeah, I knew of John Wayne Gacy. I had no idea it was burying bodies under his, allegedly burying bodies under his house. It could have been anybody. Could have been anybody. Left, right, left.

You're right. He gave 12 keys out, right? That's what he said. Yeah, it could have been a number of people. Not me. I did bury one of them, but that was self-defense. Uh-huh. The other 28 could have been anybody.

Could have been anybody. That fucking guy was walking around this world like we do now. Yeah. Just, hey, hey. How you doing? Let me put some clown face on. Iowa was empowering that guy. Let's not forget that.

Yeah, we've done this fucking song and dance before, pal. Okay, it's not. I would like to let you know that Iowans are not appreciative of what you've been doing with this. Well, I wasn't appreciative of them letting him go. That's on you, Iowa. Let's go to Robert in Massachusetts. Here we go. Robert in Massachusetts, you let Connor out of the state. What do you want to say?

How you boys doing? Hey, not too shabby. What do you want? Hey, not too shabby. How are you? Oh, not too bad. You guys are the fucking best. And,

uh, I want to apologize because my question's a little late, but when you talked about it, I was in the hospital with the wife, with the birth of my child. So, Oh, congratulations. Thank you.

Thank you. Hey, um, what's the name? So, uh, Noella, Noella, Thank you, thank you. Hey, what's the name? Noella. Noella.

Noella Catherine. Well, congratulations on Noella. We thought there was a chance maybe a little doobie would have been born there. Doobie doo. Doobie doo. Doobie doo. Anyways, maybe next time, Robert. What do you want to talk about? Well, you guys were talking about how you would

buy an NFL franchise 40 years out or so yeah and uh I was just curious hypothetically if you were ready and there were two franchises you could buy would you rather buy one that was stacked and ready to win now or would you rather buy one that's a rebuild and make your own legacy now i appreciate that and i assume there is somebody that would like to rebuild their own legacy but i'm okay with my legacy starting good let me get that thing now i don't know how everybody else feels you can see how you would want to put your own spin on everything but if you can get a team ready to win that's going to be expensive but that would be fantastic and why is the owner selling at this point now that they're good?

A lot of questions would be asked, but I think that's where I'm at it, AJ. Yeah, I would buy the Dallas Cowboys. Don't they bring in the most money every year? Yeah, but also winning like Cowboys fans did not deserve that. Okay. Hey, we talked earlier. Hard knocks. If they go to the Cowboys, cannot wait to see Big Mike and Jerry Jones.

Cannot wait. So they're one of the finalists, or however many people can? Yeah, it's Panthers, Cowboys, Cardinals. Broncos. Broncos. It has to be the Cowboys then. Well, J.J. Watt. Yeah.

Come on. Come on, dude. Okay, you're right. Arizona would be very intriguing as well. DeAndre Hopkins, Larry Fitzgerald, Kyler Murray, Cliff Kingsbury, Buda Baker. Giants are the other two. Giants. Football Giants.

Big Dan Jones. If Judge is going to be covering fumbles every episode, then. Yeah, yeah, I get it. But we got Jared Donner and Big Mike Hudson. He's going to be doing some cover stuff. You know what I mean? What's Big Mike like during training camp? I mean, he's very intense.

I don't think he would, just from my time with Mike, I don't know if he would love having to do sit-down interviews throughout the day during training camp. Oh, come on. He doesn't have to worry about it. Come on. I think it would make for some great, what do they call them, like confessionals like they do in the real world.

If he's sitting in the dark room with a bright light, just listen to him tell stories about the day, I think would be very fun. Yeah, we're trying to in the dark room with a bright light, just listen to him, like, tell stories about the day, I think would be very fun. Yeah, we're trying to get the best players on the team. What do you think? I mean, Ian's got your cameras around. But haven't they changed that so it's, like, just the small cameras that, like,

and they actually do forget that there are cameras in there for some of the stuff? It's like Big Brother or whatever. Yeah. Yeah. Would you ever get comfortable? I don't know. Because that's, a that's like an

experiment as well you you just forget about them being there i guess everyone don't you hear people that like film reality shows like well after the first week it's almost like we forgot they were there i'm like no they're especially when the shows where they're coming with them and you're sitting at a restaurant and you have to have like special lighting the whole place is looking at you i was like just that alone would be so awful a AQ Shipley and I were at a bar. I forget how many years. We were at a bar in Florida. I think it was either Tampa or Fort Lauderdale or Miami.

I forget where it was. We were sitting at a bar. We're hanging out, having a good time. We just got done golfing or whatever. We're just kind of wrapping up the day. It was in the hotel. You know what I mean? Yeah.

We're just sitting there, and all of a sudden was in the hotel. You know what I mean? Yeah. We're just sitting there and all of a sudden the door opens. Five lighting people come in. Okay. Two camera people in front. And then an entire family comes in and rents out the VIP areas. But this was a small place. So it was literally right behind us. They were the Kardashian family of France, I think they said, or whatever.

Or some other place, it was hilarious. We were like, so we have to leave now, right? They're like, no, no, stay. Please stay. We're like, no, we are not going to be on. It takes over the entire – your entire life becomes that reality show, though. Hard Knocks, though, there's some players that have loved it. There's been some players that have hated it.

And I've heard a lot more hate than love there. But as a fan, I love the show. Yeah, it'll continue because it is. It's fun to see, like, what's going on because they have all those little cameras in the meeting rooms. That's when coaches, I can definitely understand when they have moments where they forget that there are cameras there because they can't see anything. And it's just like, hey, I got to coach my dudes up. I think about a coach going, oh, fuck oh fuck i'm gonna have to explain why i said

that to that particular player now everybody heard what i just said about that there's a lot of trust i'd assume between the team and the the staff meetings are what it's very interesting to me like when they're they're talking about player transactions and where guys are and then that player watches that episode three days after that happens. Yeah, and then, you know, sometimes in the NFL, some things can be said behind closed doors, and I assume they don't make it out of there. And then now with Hard Knocks, it's like, oh, fuck you.

How are you? Is that how this whole thing goes? I love watching it as a fan. I think I would have enjoyed it if it was at the Colts training camp or whatever, obviously. But I don't think I would have enjoyed it for our was it the colts training camp or whatever obviously but i would not have i don't think i would have enjoyed it for our team like for the good of our team you know what i mean like i don't think it's for the good of your team i think it actually is the opposite actually we're going to send some for the brand gear to those five teams so we can get

back on there like last year yeah yeah us making his appearance in that one was pretty cool. JJ, you know, get him geared up for the HBO if it is in Arizona. What's that? What? Hey, his stuff is better than ours. I don't know. Whoa. I mean, his shoe. We don't have shoes, dude.

He's got shoes. He's got a shoe line. Oh, yeah. He's got a shoe line. Whoa. No, no, I don't think I could. Yeah. I tried.

I gave Hoko a call. Yeah. I gave Hoka a call. I gave Hoka a call. Can't do it. Let's go to Jacob in Nebraska. What's going on, Jacob? Hey, no much. What's going on, man? Hey, just hanging out, pal.

What do you want to talk about? Oh, yeah, I want to talk about the Pittsburgh Steelers. Give me a second, man. I had to run out of fucking class. Hey, what? Hold on. Hold on. A lot of questions.

What class did we just run out of? How old are we? I'm 18, man. I ran an animal biology because of. Is this high school? Yeah, man. You're a great student. Yeah, you know it, man.

I'm excited that this just happened. What world is happening where you can just get up? Excuse me. Hey, gotta take a call. Good call. How does that work? That is awesome. Good for you, Jacob.

You must have a lot of pool around those halls. What do you want to talk about? All right. So, obviously, the Pittsburgh Steelers. Oh, yeah, dude, I'm in the hall. But the Pittsburgh Steelers. Can you yell a few times? Has he been on hold for like three classes?

I honestly can't. Yeah, there's a chance. Sorry, what do you want to talk about? Let's get you back to class. What do you want to talk about? All right, so the Pittsburgh Steelers, man. You got Big Ben Roethlisberger, man. He's on the twilight of his career.

You're going into the 2021 draft, and you have a lot of options. I have a few options for them. Either they're picking Najee Harris. Maybe if Justin Fields, he gets going down. Maybe Lance goes over him. Maybe Mac Jones goes over him. Maybe they get him. Maybe they go all-in.

What do the Pittsburgh Steelers do in the 2021 draft? Jacob, hey, get back to animal biology, all right? You hear me? What do you guys learn about today? Like the difference between huff and paw? Hey, fuck all, man. I'm just, man. Fuck all.

This guy's not learning shit. Jacob. I've been on hold for two hours, man. I've been through three classes. I don't, at this point, man, I just. Jacob, listen. Jacob, high school is a test of whether or not you can do or you cannot do. You have to get through this thing.

You know that it feels like you potentially. Hey, man, I graduate in like a month, cuz. Oh, man, I'm out of here. I walked in. Congratulations, Jacob. Congrats, grad. Congrats. You sure he's graduating?

Maybe. Yeah. We are a terrible influence and a bad show. So don't do that if you're in high school right now. You guys should stop watching. Hey, the fact that he was able to have his phone out on hold for two hours through three classes and then he's available right when he comes off hold was pretty amazing. I mean, think about TJ earlier from Washington.

He's nowhere near a high school class. He was on hold for 22 minutes. Answer, TJ, nothing. People come on muted or whatever. He was on hold for 22 minutes. Answer, TJ, nothing. People come on muted or whatever. He was in animal biology. That chair and desk one. Yeah, shut up. Can't take it, though.

I'm hot. Shut up. Shut up. Hey, yeah, what up, Fuzzo? Could you imagine in the middle of high school just having the gall to do that would be so awesome. That would be so awesome to have that ability. That kid's going places.

Hell yeah. Thank you, Jacob. Thank you, Jacob. Thank you, Jacob. Shut. Fuck. Shut. Hold on.

I got a dog. I know. I got a dog. Where do you go? Steelers. Bro, who knows? Mike Tomlin is at the Ohio State workout. There's an incredible clip, actually, of Mike Tomlin talking to Justin Fields

as Justin Fields is either going to work out or warm up or something like that. Can we run that clip? Do we think we can run it? Maybe not. Probably not. Mike Tomlin basically tells Justin Fields, you know why we're here. Go ahead and give it to me or something like that. Or some sort of like, go ahead and show.

Like him, Mike Tomlin is awesome. All right. I just want to let everybody know that. Mike Tomlin put me through my pro day workout at West Virginia. If it wasn't for Mike Tomlin, I'm not sure all of the scouts would have came out to where I was kicking from the indoor facility where Pat White, Steve Slayton, and everybody was working out. I did not get invited to the combine. Mike Tomlin was pretty pivotal for me making it into the NFL, and I'm very grateful. But that moment looking at him

chat with Justin Fields as he's getting ready for the workout, I think is why Mike Tomlin is beloved by basically every, while I was beloved by basically every while I was doing a workout while I was doing my kicking workout he was like talking shit to me we were bantering back and forth it felt like he was saying things louder so people could hear what I was potentially doing he is just like classic guy

you want to play for and I love the fact that he let Justin Fields know like even stating the obvious like hey man you don't know what you – hey, Justin, I don't know if you know this or not. All these motherfuckers are here to watch you throw good luck out there. That's basically what Tomlin was like, and I appreciate it so much. I appreciate how he is.

And when I talk to anybody that has played for him, I always ask them, like, what's Tomlin like? And they all seem to love him. And they're like, hey, man, he leaves you – if you do your job, if you're a pro, like he has that old school mentality like we're gonna grind we're gonna work hard and he's not gonna mess around like he doesn't really care about all the periphery and what's going on as long as you're taking care of business on the field and the locker rooms all right he gave a speech at the um after the draft you go to the uh rookie symposium he gave a speech and he was like

he gave us like five ten minute speech about everything. At the end he said, basically it all comes down to this. Don't be that guy. Just don't be that guy. Then he just walked off. He was like, you know what that means. Everybody knows what that means. Don't be that guy. Just don't be that guy. I was that guy one time. They gave me another

chance. For that, can't thank you enough for choosing to listen to this show. I know there was a chance that when it started, you thought, this show's going to stink. Yeah, sure. But if you lasted this long, we can't thank you enough for spending time with us. We'll be back, Mignogna.

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