The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 396 - LIVE From An Undisclosed Location, Tom Pelissero, Tony Fields II, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: April 15, 2021

On today's show, Pat and the boys are live from an undisclosed location as Pat is up to something (use the hashtag #PatsUpToSomethin and guess what he's doing to enter for a chance to win $7500), as they break down all the biggest news across the NFL including Justin Fields 2nd Pro Day, the Washington Football Team potentially having a new name, and much more. Joining the show is NFL Network Insider and friend of the program, Tom Pelissero to chat about the clash between the NFL and NFLPA about the offseason program, whether or not he thinks it is going to get ugly, what he's hearing about Justin Fields, and if Roger Goodell is Neuralinked into his brain (24:37-44:57). Next, Pat and AJ Hawk chat about Justin Field's Pro Day, the rumors that he might be going to San Francisco now, what AJ is hearing from his sources at OSU, how they think the NFLPA and NFL situation surrounding the offseason program will pan at, and what AJ thinks Pat is up to (47:14-1:12:06). Later, Pat and AJ Hawk welcome former Arizona and West Virginia Linebacker, Tony Fields II. Pat, AJ, and Tony chat about his college career, what type of questions GM's and team personnel have asked him through the draft process, if he's going to the combine, his plans for draft night, and what he thinks about some of the "knocks" from analysts on him at the next level are (1:13:27-1:27:11). Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow and listen every day on Mad Dog Radio, Sirius XM Channel 82. We appreciate you all for listening, come and laugh with us, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello, it is Thursday, April 15th. We're in a Rhodes studio. What's going on? What do you think is potentially happening? I'm up to something. There's a big announcement coming here. Down the pipe in the next, I'll say near future. I'm not 100% sure yet.

Can't thank you enough for choosing to spend some time with us today. I think you're going to enjoy today's conversation about the world, the life, everything like that. And by the end of this show, you enjoy it. Please be a friend and tell a friend. If not, just act like it never happened. Ty, let's get to this thing, shall we? If you're watching on YouTube.com forward slash the Pat McAfee show, we cannot thank you enough for spending time with us.

Day to day. The music, Zito. Day to day. The whole first hour might have had music playing crushed it zito appreciate you buddy oh zito is here breaking news number one there it is there it is breaking news number two we are in our road studio breaking news number three we do not want to tell you exactly where we are right now you can go ahead and guess where you think we are we will be announcing a 7500 giveaway later in the show whenever aj hawk will be joining us i believe he'll be joining us for the second hour and a third hour today so i believe in about an hour from now we will be announcing a hashtag giveaway

for $7,500 for whoever can tweet the most accurate guess of what they think I'm going to announce within the next couple days. I was in a meeting earlier this morning.

This was supposed to be over the next few weeks. This thing got expedited quickly. Zito's been building the studio in anticipation that this would be happening. And I want to let you know, this place is gorgeous. At Boston Connor and Ty Schmid are sitting in here.

The Toxic Table will be joining me live in the Rhodes studio. Boys, could have never guessed this place to be this nice. Zito, Tim McAfee, CFO Phil really want to work and made this magic happen. Absolutely. And I'll tell you what, the weather up here is much nicer than I expected. I was expecting it to be a little bit chilly. I really didn't pack appropriately, if you will. But I'll tell you what, I am very impressed.

Compared to what we were doing in the box truck, we talked about that. I mean, we might as well be. I mean, I feel like we're in L.A. at some big dick-swinging studio. At Boston Connor, you were on hiatus from our company while we were on the road. And for those that are very new to our show, which is we get to see a lot of data, there's a lot of new people here. And we can't thank you enough for why ever the fuck you choose to watch this show. But last fall, not this this covid fall fall before that

right we had a schedule and everybody saw obviously you know me on get up there would be clips of me on get up that would hit the internet and even if you weren't watching the show full time you did see me rex ryan or schlovsky, Greenberg, Ryan Clark. We made some magic happen. Every single Monday, overreaction Monday happened on Get Up For Me on ESPN with Greenberg. Greenberg asked me to do that. He said, I would love to have you in studio. It'd be better.

I said, sounds good. That's in New York. We were doing a daily show at the time. So we had to figure out, okay, okay, now we're going to be in New York on Mondays. We got to figure out a studio to do our daily show. At that time, I think we were live on YouTube. Not a lot of people were watching. Yeah, we were.

We were live on YouTube. We were live on radio, I think. Westwood One, yeah. Westwood One Terrestrial Radio, which is FCC radio. So we had to put on this show. Whilst still being an Indianapolis company, we had to make this thing happen. So the Monday morning get-up thing gets offered. And we all agree, like, yeah, it's a good idea.

It'd be a good commercial. It's overreaction Monday too. Mondays are the best fucking days of the fall. Because whatever happened in the last 24 hours, you can be absolutely obnoxious about it. Especially on those shows where they're just asking you to dial it up to 45 or whatever. You know what I mean? So that's like what that show is about. So I would go in there on 12 every Monday morning,

waking up 5 a.m. because they had production meetings like 5.30 or whatever in the morning for that show. They got to go through everything. We would fly into New York Sunday nights before Sunday night football. Second half of the 4 o'clock games because we tried to watch all the football. So then we would have to do the show

from New York on Mondays. We'd hop in a plane, fly back to Indianapolis Monday afternoon. So then you would think, just do the show in Indianapolis the rest of the week. No, no, no. Then I was asked to do Thursday night football

by Matt Hasselbeck. Matt Hasselbeck was getting Thursday night football alongside Adam Amin and Molly McGrath and he said, would love for you to do this with us. Could we please make this happen? I was like, going to be tough because obviously Thursday Night Football would be another city.

Matt was like, we think it'd be cool. Think about it, though. He didn't want to force me, but he was like, just think about it. So we thought, like, get a chance to commentate some games. Okay, let's do that. So now we got to figure out how to do the show in New York on Monday. Have to figure out how to do the show in some bumblefuck college town on Thursday Night Football. And then whenever College Game Day got entered into the mix, then Fridays I was flying.

Thursday would fly back to Indianapolis Fridays. I would fly to wherever college game day was. Then I would fly back on Saturdays. Then Sundays we would fly to New York and put that thing on repeat for 13 weeks. Okay. Thought we were going to die. Yeah. So now we were potentially staring down another road studio opportunity.

And what we chose to do then was a box truck studio that drove around the country to every place we were. We hired a driver. We were in the back of a box truck. There was 7,000 issues every single time we went live. Never missed a show. Never. Back of a box truck, middle of some interesting neighborhoods in some cities

where outside there was potential real shit going on we're standing in the back of a box truck screaming dancing yelling for three hours or two hours at the time it was just something crazy so whenever whenever this opportunity was potentially going to present itself where it's like hey might have to move a little bit we had to figure out how to do it zito tim said hey we'll build a road studio we don't have because zito was a part of that box truck experience too and it was a oh yeah i want to let you know it was a long ass season it almost died i think we all almost died on numerous occasions not just because the planes almost went down but because we're running on like 40 45 minutes of sleep on most nights every night coming out and

doing a show. And some people will be like, yeah, a lot of energy as other days. It's like, well, fuck. We've been in our 14th city in 10 days. Will you please get off our ass? So we wanted to make this potential opportunity that could happen where we might have to be away for a little bit or we might have to move a little bit better so the show could maintain a solid quality. And what Zito and everybody did down here

is fucking unbelievable. Wait until you see this board. We moved. This studio is nicer than our studio at the office. It might be. This studio is nicer than the studio we have at the office. Yeah, look at this thing. At Boston Corner, I'm thankful that you're back with company,

by the way, for this whole run. But we will be having the boys travel with us as well. there's a group that'll be on the road each week have to keep that fresh by the way for everybody like it has to become something for everybody because you know if we have to travel for a long time which is potentially what's going to happen or a short time you know you can kind of get life on the road can wear on you a little bit so we are going to maintain connection to the studio in Indianapolis for the boys. And I'm not 100% sure if they're on right now. This will be the first time we've even attempted

this. Boys, you're back in Indianapolis, yeah? Yeah, we're here. Yes, sir. Hey, okay. All right. Will we be able to see you guys? Is that something we'll be able to do? Doesn't seem like it, Pat. Get Zito to FaceTime us here, you're coming in real hot.

You're coming in real hot, okay? We've got to figure that out as well. I think Zito's going to FaceTime you guys. So I think what we're doing now, you are all on a phone call with us. So that's where the audio will come from. The FaceTime will be the video. The reason why the FaceTime can't be the audio is because all of this show is being sent back to the board in Indianapolis to send to Sirius.

Sure. So if the FaceTime from them was coming through their board with the audio, you could potentially get a little bit of crossing swords. We learned that, by the way, in the box truck. Yes, we did. The show became a shit show one particular two particular maybe four particular days so we kind of learned that lesson but i believe the boys are here is this something that's going on right now fellas can we see you i cannot believe this is happening now when we said we were going to come over here. You said up here earlier. I said over here.

Hey, Nick, wakey, wakey, pal. We're doing a show. Hey, it's nice to be able to see you guys. We've been listening to the show like some stooges on the radio. Can't even see what you're talking about. You look good. Hey, listen. You look good.

Hey, listen, I want to let everybody know, those that listen only on the radio, we appreciate the hell out of you. Oh, yeah. I don't know how you do it. I can't do it. I don't know how anybody. I have to see the motherfucker that's talking for me to really appreciate it but i want to let you know we appreciate our serious xm family kovid cowboy tone digs how you doing pal i'm doing great pal uh mitt cutting cameras for me you need some trick hey mitt fucking dial it down pal okay you're bouncing around here middle eight bit how you

doing good to see you, Mitt. Good work, dude. This ain't an exercise for how fast your fingers can move over there, Mitt, okay? Let's try to put on at least a little bit of a show here. You're doing great work, Mitt. We appreciate you. Let's stick with the COVID cowboy here. But the ability to chat with the boys in Indianapolis while we're over here

and potentially do a show in a better studio than they're in, this is going to be an amazing run very thankful for it we'll be announcing a 7500 giveaway in about an hour where the people who have followed along and i appreciate by the way everybody getting invested in this it might be because there ain't other shit going on maybe there ain't much shit going on right now i mean there's things for us to talk about today we got a big show packed today very excited about it the sports gods have rained down some riches on us today for us to actually have a conversation about something at this point.

But, Diggs, I absolutely love the fact that you can chime in with some incredible stat or factoid that you have in the middle of this conversation any time I get going. Well, and you talked about the giveaway that you're doing today. The Fandle Hammerdown Rollover that we do every single day where you have to put a 10 leg parlay together yeah is up to 1750 dollars hey we're giving away what 8 000 do the math 200 and 750 you get it hey a lot of money a lot of money on the table and that's more than a stimulus check yeah that's a lot more than a stimulus check listen we're giving out stimulus checks today

and we're going to continue to do that because we're all in this goddamn thing together and what i'm potentially doing is paying us a pretty good pretty good amount of money so i mean we will just try to give that away because i feel like that is the best life served actually to be honest I don't know how other people don't do it I appreciate and respect that I was actually thinking about this morning uh digs believe it or not I got 90 to 94 minutes of sleep last night at this place well where you are over there up up there hey by the way way not to fuck that up because you have not been around us all morning we've been yeah we've been having full conversations the fact that you just jumped right in the water

here without really hearing our off camera well way to go tony tipping a cat street street smarts my friend not necessarily book smart but street smarts i do know how to stay alive in this world uh there's a lot of street traffic where you're at. A lot of honking, a lot of ambulances maybe, something like that? No, that was not it. Not really? That was not it. It's actually really, it's almost like deserted.

It's almost like where we're at. We had to get a full internet listen. The internet company thing that had to happen, they had to come. It's almost like we maybe created internet where we're at. Yeah. But they did a great job. They did an absolutely incredible job. Now, in doing so, though.

They did cut the cable wire. They just completely cut the TV cable wire. Yeah. So no TV. All right. But you got to watch an unbelievable movie last night, if I do recall. Netflix had restricted content pin needed for the particular TV setup that I was in. I guessed maybe, I would say, a hundred different pins

on all their different accounts they had in there, the whole family setup. Never got it. Could only watch PG shit. Watched Cat in the Hat. Fucking what? Who's watching that? What a classic.

Then I watched Thunder Force. Oh, you lucky dog. Thunder Force. I had to. watched cat in a hat fucking what who's watching that what classic then i watched uh thunder force oh you're lucky dog i had to it's a pg it's a pg movie i had to it's the only thing i just stared at the ceiling for five six hours last night i'm i brought no melatonin of any i didn't bring my cbd pm i i i dropped the fucking ball here so i'm gonna get a little bit loopy here probably about an hour or two sure big day you sent the uh you sent the avatar movie poster at 4 18 a.m so i knew yeah so uh so what had happened was i turned that uh cat and hat on yeah of course i got through that whole movie realized that i'm not gonna be able to just watch this type of shit sure this ain't gonna work no way this't going to get me mentally invested enough

to wear me out to put me to sleep. Does that make sense? I feel like that's how my brain works. A lot of people don't want to watch good shit late at night because they don't want to get invested. For me, I feel like while watching the good stuff, I get invested, and by that point, my brain's already tired. It kind of puts me out.

It's almost like a one-two punch that the intriguing shit does to my brain of puts me out it's like a uh it's almost like a like a one-two punch that the intriguing shit does to my brain to put me out now last night pg shit there's nothing interesting i like whenever i have a kid i had i thought about this 3 a.m last night i ain't gonna be able to fake it yeah there we go we go. We could probably appreciate you. Hey, boys, please, if you've got to work, do your thing, but a little bit of alertness if we start yelling, please. Mm-hmm. 10-4. Okay.

There it is. Over and out. Gumby's potentially staying in my house right now watching all the animals. Is he really? Someone's got to. Yeah, someone's got to because we're – go ahead. We had an internet cable issue there last night as well. Oh, no.

Jeez. It's everywhere. The internet does not work there, pal. Cables should, though. The cables should work. That's bullshit. I'm paying a lot for that thing to get fixed. I remember I had DirecTV.

It wasn't working. What do you mean? It cut out at about 11.30, came back on at about 3 this morning. You've got to be shitting me. Comcast had an issue last night. Oh, you don't say! Gumby's got to move the satellite, I thought. Hey, that's a shame.

I lost it too. I apologize, Gump, that that just so happened to happen on your first night at my house, but I want to let you know, I've been through a lot of phone calls with those people over there. I need my fucking TV to work. I know there's no internet here,

so I'm paying a lot. I'm sorry that happened. Nice to know that the brother who does take all the good internet on the property, it also happened to him too. That's pretty good. All right, appreciate you, Gumby. Sorry that happened. Nice to know that the brother who does take all the good internet on the property, it also happened to him too. That's pretty good. All right.

Appreciate you, Gumpy. Let's get to it though. Shall we? Oh, yeah. Come on. Very thankful for this. We're going to be giving away a lot of money today. Shout out to the hashtag FanDuelHammerDonRollover1750, by the way.

Nothing to sneeze at. 10-leg parlay. You got to tweet it out. Minus 130, I think, are better odds. They do that every single day, by the way. Every single night they do that for the Hammered Down Show, which is live 4 p.m. daily. Also, that is something that had to be thought about while this whole thing is going on. There's been a lot going on behind the scenes, and we're appreciating you guys rocking with us.

Now, let's get to some shit that's happening. Oh, yeah. We could talk about Alden Smith signing a one-year deal with the Seattle Seahawks. Congrats, Odin Smith. The comeback tour for Odin Smith, which looked like it was never going to be likely because of how much he was fucking up. And I'm not just saying that

there wasn't probably mental health things going on. I'm not saying he wasn't put into a crazy situation he probably could have never guessed when you get a lot of money and get a lot of success. It's not always just a very easy thing for people to make that transition, especially if they're not potentially diagnosed with something going on. He fucked up. All right. He did. He would, I assume he has admitted that and has come on the other side of that. Took a couple of years off play for the Cowboys last year,

gets five sacks. It's like, okay, Alden still has football in him. Alden still has a chance to rewrite his entire story here, it feels like. He signs with Seattle for a one-year deal. Congrats to him. We're all happy for him. Oh, yeah. Very happy for Alden Smith. Congrats, Alden. Congrats, Alden Smith. Keep that thing going. Would have been nice maybe you come to the Colts, actually.

We lost Justin Houston. Would have been nice to get a pass rusher, but good luck out there in Seattle. They need you. They re-signed Carlos Dunlap. The defense was not maybe fantastic for them last year. No, it wasn't. Good move. Now, listen, they've got a lot of other stuff they're going to have to figure out.

They might be a tighter team than ever, by the way. After a scrap, you might come together tighter than you've ever been. If they lose, there might be some more question marks. Seattle Seahawks are a team to watch this year. But I think what I would like to talk about oh yeah 1888 mad dog six by the way is our phone calls mitt it was running the cameras there so he can't answer the phones I wonder how they're figuring that out actually yeah hey boys figure it out all right Bill can't do it either though Bill's coding Bill's coding right now that's the thing Bill can work 18 it either, though. Bill's coding. Bill's coding right now. Well, that's the thing. Bill can work 18 different screens at once.

So if he's banging my back. I don't know if we can add a horn into that. I don't know. Because he's got to listen to the 100 Thieves folks. True. And see what they got going on. Our show could potentially have something that could be good. He has to potentially know that that's happening.

NBA top shots. Oh, my God. NFT world is happening. And by the way, people think like he's just buying this stuff. No. No, no, no. He's actually writing this stuff. Yeah.

Oh, yeah. He's putting them out on his own. You ever Google something on YouTube? You can go ahead and thank Billy Tubes. Yeah. He's like writing the code to have that thing pop up there. We appreciate Billy.

He cannot be answering the phone, so he's got too many jobs. I assume Mitt's doing it now because we're not really there, but 1-888-MADDOG-6 and I'll wait to hear from you. I've got a computer that is mirroring the computer in the studio. Technology is fucking crazy.

It actually asked me to update. Yeah. Very cool. On this computer, it asked me to update that computer. You don't got to update that one. That one's up to date. This one seems to be very up to date. Yeah.

It's to be able to do this. But I love that this son of a bitch knows that I'm all the way up here and it was like uh hey now's the time just remind you you're out of town what do you think maybe we update it's like no i gotta use you i want to let while we're trying to figure out all this shit and i'm not saying everybody doesn't have to go through shit but while we're trying to figure out road studios and other live shows and tech and everything like that and that's just hey by the way standard business that's right standard business we are very lucky to do this but there's a lot of bullshit that comes on the back end of this thing whenever you're dealing with tech that we got a chance to learn about while we're doing

shows in the back of a box truck around the country or whatever so while trying to figure out all this because this is potentially happening you, and also trying to maintain a show that is worthy of people spending their fucking time with us because we're getting stats and people are spending a long time with us on a daily basis. So the show cannot halt at all. We're also living right now in a time with social media and insiders and leak sources and all this, where the thing that we talk about every day is legitimately, at all times, potential 100% bullshit. Oh, yeah.

All horse shit. Every single day it feels like this, right? Now, whenever we were beginning this offseason, you know, we were gumming gung-ho. Oh, yeah. Had to. Might have been a little bit naive of us. Okay, we're a young show. We're a young show. A little bit naive. There was an bit naive of us. Okay, we're a young show. We're a young show.

A little bit naive. There's an insider that said something. Bang, we're talking about it. Oh, my God, what's this going to do? Then, obviously, two days later, something very different would come out. Then we would get, you know, people that would quote tweet our tweets from two days ago. This aged poorly. It's like, well, fuck you.

We're not in the same. No. We're nowhere near in the same world that we are in right now. As I think we've gone through this offseason, which seems to be more seems to be more bullshit than ever yeah i feel like we're getting a little bit more hardened getting a little bit more skeptical i think we're starting to be like oh really but whenever something grabs our eyes it's hard not to get excited about it like oh this is big news for instance let's lay out that entire thing we just said in a two-tweet operation from this morning. Okay?

This is the NFL. I love that the NFL has so much interest in it. It is the biggest league in the world that there is every little thing that could potentially be news becomes big news. And I love being a part of – I feel like we're pretty much a part of NFL media. I love covering the league. But, you know, there's a lot of shit that gets thrown out that is potentially all... This morning, a guy I'd never heard of breaks a tweet, okay? And we're about to showcase... I mean, are you kidding me?

Look at that thing! You're going to have to take the date off. Oh, no, he's moving that thing. Good work here. So this LED board, if you're listening on Sirius, you have no idea. The tweet just popped up behind me. The whole tweet, it's on a wall

that seems to be about 8 and a half feet high and maybe probably eight by eight if i had to guess maybe eight by ten it's it's big and it is 4k i don't know this seems to be very clear and the tweet is just all the way behind me it's fucking absurd we're living in 2035 yes anyway cecil lammy man we've never heard of cecil i believe he's in denver by the way works for the denver, ah, well, it might have been. Okay, a little clever start. I like Cecil. I think I'd enjoy probably Cecil.

The fact that he chose to lead off a tweet with a little bit of, you know, a little flavor. Right. He did do a little something. Yeah, a little Cecil style. He did a little something. He said, excuse me. I dropped him. You know what I mean?

Let me get a little bit of flavor. Ah, well, it might have been. This is him setting the tone for the rest of the information. Much like the don't overreact to this. Right. From David Lombardi at Lombardi himself the other day. Setting the tone for what might have been. League sources tell me, says Cecil,

that the Jets turned down 49ers first round pick for Sam Darnold earlier this offseason. Joe Douglas and company had concerns about Zach Wilson's shoulder and wanted to see his pro day now super confident and will likely be number two pick. Hashtag NFL draft. That thing garnered 128 retweets, 425 quote tweets. Those quote tweets probably garnered over over 100 retweets a lot of

people saw this very quickly because it involves the new york jets the san francisco 49ers sam darnold kyle shanahan john lynch jimmy garoppolo so this is a massive piece of information and zach wilson this is a massive piece of information here to just drop into the twitter world from cecil lammy who by the way we have said after the first five words of this tweet, probably good dude. Yeah. Oh, it might have been. Great style.

Turns out, we find out just, I don't know, maybe 30 minutes later or whatever, a tweet comes out from another NFL insider that says, no, actually, complete bullshit, what just was said right here. What? Quote tweet, complete bullshit. You got to go right here. What? Quote suite, complete bullshit. You got to go back. Oh, it's frozen.

Oh, man. He did say it could be finicky. At least we get the Cecil style on here for the rest of the show. Anyways, Dov Kleiman says he speaks to insiders that would know and tweets out, this is false. This is not true. So now this is every single day this is happening. At what point do you think

it stops or do you think this only grows out here? Oh, it'll never stop. I mean, this will always happen. It has to. Because Cecil will come out and say, well, that's what I was told. Exactly. And also, what are the insiders going to do? You know, they have nothing else to talk about either. They might as well go with the, yeah, you know what, maybe Sam Darnold is going to be a 49er.

Who says no? You know what we actually have, though? We have an actual insider joining us here. Are you serious? Yeah, a man who is from the NFL, actually. Wow. One of the voices of the NFL, to be honest with you. I feel like when he speaks, it's like, okay, he's been told this by somebody at the NFL.

The shield. It is something that I enjoy learning about from this guy, and there's a lot of shit we can cover with him, including this Darnold thing. We'll also talk about the NFL and the NFLPA situation with these OTAs, which, by the way, OTAs, I understand it's big for development, blah, blah, blah, blah. This means nothing, okay?

OTAs, it's great if your players are there, but nothing matters except for the fall football season what happens in OTAs there's a large majority of people that won't even be there and this is going to become a thing that's going to become a problem because it's the NFL and the NFL PA battling yeah joining us right now ladies and gentlemen from the NFL and the NFL network Tom Pellicero Tom what's going on Iicero! Tom, what's going on? I'm up to something, dude. You got any inside sources on what it is? I wish that I had the level of information flow

directly from Roger Goodell that you seem to think I do. Oh! This is a misconception of people at the NFL Network to think that we just get every memo, we're on some internal email chain. Not everybody. Not everybody at NFL Network. not everybody on stuff like everybody else Tom I get that put it this way I get look through my twitter feed over the past several days I have as much NFL PA stuff as NFL stuff I try to I try to be fair and balanced well okay well it does I appreciate

that I appreciate what you just said everybody tries to be fair and balanced I, I thought the Colts grew in the fucking Super Bowl last year. I was trying to be fair and balanced as well. You know what I mean? And whenever we talk to you, though, it's not everybody at NFL Network, by the way. We talk to a lot of people at NFL Network. We love NFL Network, by the way. We are. We are big.

We have NFL Network on our at our home. Not here at Road Studio because we don't have TV. We don't have TV here at the Road Studio. We can't actually watch any television. But at Office Studio back in Indy, you know, a few, I'm not even going to say the mileage from there, but back in Indy, we have NFL Network on all day. You know, it's all access.

We love everything about it. We absolutely love everything about it. But when you come on, it genuinely makes us feel like, okay, Tom seems like is having the entire, he, he, maybe you comprehend it more or easier or it's your style, but it feels like you understand why the NFL is choosing to do exactly what the NFL is choosing to do at that exact time where we may have some questions. You know, that's no offense to that. I don't think. I think everybody has certain areas that they try to have expertise in i would certainly say procedural stuff the memos the way that things internally function those are things

that i just have kind of made a point especially over the past 14 months here amidst all the chaos just to understand it it's not uh i'm not giving you the pitch from either side yeah yeah it is important to the people inside the league i mean you would be surprised every time one of these memos comes out how many coaches and front office people a lot of times haven't seen the memo they see my tweet and then they're asking like so what does this mean what are they doing here because they got 10 other things going on i'm actually going through these 17 page memos and trying to you know pull stuff out and then i mean we appreciate by the way hey the coaches the coaches aren't the only people that appreciate that because there's no way zero chance anybody in this particular studio or in our building uh in indie would ever read a 17

page memo so the fact that you do it I assume there's coaches and players and myself, there's a lot of people that appreciate it, but you do have a more in-depth look at the thing. So let's talk about a couple of these things here. The NFLPA and the NFL, Tom, are starting to beef about these OTAs, okay? As soon as the virtual off-season happened last year, and as soon as the training camp was rescheduled

and how it all worked, you heard the veterans talking while it was happening. They were like, hey, this feels good. This is exactly what I need. In the ramp-up period of the training camp where it was almost like OTAs and training camp were combined, it made our body feel good. The OTAs where you go and then you're down and then you're up again kind of hurts the body, not great for us.

As it was happening, I saw and immediately understood that the players were going to try to fucking let's hey let's let's make sure we oversell how good this thing is so now here we are one year later and you have the NFLPA and the NFL disputing about protocols being safe for players to go into the building they shouldn't be doing O otas we last year we had a lot of success in football which was true the game was great a lot of young guys played well even though a lot of people thought the young guys could suffer from this the special teamers the second stringers kind of got fucked in the whole thing but the stars seem to do good the nfl now says we'll do four more weeks virtual and we'll kind of reassess it is that what they're saying and do you see this really becoming a situation and do you see the otas changing and do you see the nfl since they've already given in the four weeks virtual here which they didn't have to do uh do you see them

potentially extending that or trying to figure this out because all parties know that this is not as big of a deal as it's going to be made out to be well there's a lot of layers to this and let's start with the fact that this is not true bargaining between the NFL and the NFLPA in the sense that for anything, any changes to happen, the union would have to sign off. The union did not sign off on what the NFL sent the clubs yesterday, which was an extension of phase one of the offseason program, no on-field work for those first four weeks. Starting May 17th, there's only a one-week phase two where you can kind of do like a walk-through type of pace, do some things on the field. And then the normal four weeks, 10 days over four weeks of OTAs,

which are voluntary except for the three-day mandatory minicamp. The NFLPA all along has pushed for this entire thing to be all virtual, including the mandatory minicamp. The NFLPA all along has pushed for this entire thing to be all virtual, including the mandatory minicamp. So they're not even close to that. The J.C. Tretter and DeMora Smith sent a note to all the players last night, which I tweeted, saying this did not address our concerns. There's just a minor tweak to phase one. We still recommend based on our based on the data and based on our medical experts that you do not attend any in-person workouts this spring. But if you do, make sure that you're following all the protocols in terms of PPE and social distancing, etc. So to go back to last offseason,

you're absolutely right. What the NFLPA saw was that, yes, there was absolutely an impact on certain teams, especially some of those with new coaches. I mean, off the top of my head, you would think about what happened with the Cowboys defense, not having time to learn a new scheme. The Vikings with their young secondary, just those guys weren't ready to play in the early going. Those are the guys who lost in terms of OTAs. But if you look at the bigger picture, you look at January and February in the playoffs, nobody was sitting back going, boy, this is just not the same.

No, if you watch the entire course of the season, you didn't notice some kind of noticeable drop. What's kind of funny here and somewhat ironic is the NFL put together all this data showing that injury rates did not have any significant spike. They were actually down in the early portion of the season. Major injuries were down. Penalties were down. Quality of play was no different. You still had competitive games. The NFLPA went, yeah, that's right. Look at all that data. We didn't lose anything with the off season. So what you really have here, and I know that they're making it about covet and there's some valid data on that in terms of you have three times the new positive

cases per day right now that you did one year ago uh when they went all virtual this is an issue of power and control this is the union which has over the past decade or so had like a 99 attendance rate at voluntary otas saying we negotiated for all this stuff to be voluntary yet we're all showing up the data last year suggests maybe that extra wear and tear whatever it might be you're talking four hours a day two hours on the field maybe that's not the best thing for us. They see the opportunity here to try to take a stand. And so J.C. Tretter on a call last Friday, which was open to all players, said that. He said that basically the dynamic in these, again, not bargaining, but these talks with the NFL have been, hey, we want to be all virtual. And the owners go, well, we're not going to do that,

but it's voluntary. We know you're going to show up, but it's voluntary we know you're going to show up but it's voluntary and treanor told the players i think it's time to make them eat their words so you've had four teams come out and say we're not going to show up for the in-person voluntary stuff the patriot said some of us will many of us won't that's still five out of 32 teams uh to say nothing of the close to 300 players who either have workout bonuses or de-escalators in their contracts, which absolutely, if their teams start workouts on Monday, is going to incentivize them to show up. And then you've got the trickle down for all these other younger players in particular and the thousand plus guys whose jobs are not secure. They've got to weigh out some things. I can can tell you i have talked to

a number of agents who have told me regardless what the union says i'm telling all my guys to go everybody's got different interests in this entire thing which is part of the reason that from a labor perspective it's really tough always for the nflpa to get 2 500 guys on the same page because they just don't all have the same things at stake particularly at this time of year yeah i 100 agree it's the it's not the young stars you know like justin jefferson was unbelievable the rookie wide receivers were unbelievable there's some rookie defensive play there was rookie players that made plays quicker than we could have ever expected especially with the zoom stuff but it's the backup players the special teams players that they have to understand the defense

to really make the active roster instead of the practice squad, and they maybe potentially don't, and the defensive coordinator doesn't believe in them. So that means the special teams coordinator is not allowed to use it. There's a lot of that type of stuff that goes on as Tom Palacero gets a call from Roger Goodell to tell him to keep it going. He's doing a great job. A couple quick little things here, Tom.

Obviously, that's not true. Maybe, though. We don't know. But a couple quick things. Whenever you say it's only four hours, two hours on the field, the wear and tear, I think the reason why a lot of vets don't like it is because they have to travel back to the city.

They can't work out with their own people. Their guru, if they do have a body guru, has got to travel with them to the city. It's away from family that's that's the biggest thing i think for a lot of guys and also and also sorry to cut you off but the ramp up and also the ramp up the the otas even though it's two hours on the field or whatever they're doing like by the end of otas they're doing full practices basically but with no pads so it's like a mid-season almost type of reps for quarterbacks wide receivers corners like it's like a mid-season almost type of reps for quarterbacks wide receivers corners like it's happening like that and then all of a sudden

go to a dead period for three and a half four weeks depending upon when your first game is and then all of a sudden it's like training camp it's like here we go we're going right back into it so a lot of the older guys i think they enjoyed the ramp up so the two hours four hours in total thing i think that is i i agree that that is potentially what they're talking about, but I think it's more so a high level, you know what I mean? Zoomed out view is what they're mostly talking about. I think if you could relay that to Raj and the boys. I've heard from agents in particular that there's a lot of players

who don't feel like they get as good a work in the facility than they do two hours with their guy doing stuff versus two hours as part of a group of 10, which is what the weight room limit is right now, that that's not going to be as good. You also have, you know, if you look at that memo yesterday, one of the things in there says, you know, so you get four hours a day in phase one, of which two hours can be directed activity, but also your testing, the daily testing that you still have to undergo. And it appears as of now, even if you're vaccinated, you still have to get the daily Mesa test.

That doesn't count toward the four hours. So that's been one thing. So it's in the morning. I thought the, I thought the Fachiachi was the green, the, the, the, the green light. Yeah. Get out of jail free. That's what I thought. There's still, it will eventually, but the NFL and the NFLPA haven't come up with any of these protocols.

At some point, they're going to set a threshold at which point you can scale it back on a team-wide basis in terms of PPE and social distancing and all that type of stuff. And then also on an individual basis, if certain people are vaccinated, they would not have to follow certain protocols. The NFL and NFLPA not mandating it for players. Certainly they are encouraging it. You saw the Broncos yesterday. Tier one, tier two.

Right. The Broncos are putting on a vaccination event. All teams are being encouraged to make the vaccine available during phase one. And then the real thing, yeah, the tier one, tier two, which is a big deal, and I've heard from people within the league, front office people in particular, who are not happy about this. There's people who, for certain reasons, do not want to take a vaccine that is, of course, approved for emergency use, but is not yet FDA approved.

And they're, in essence, being told, again, it's not a mandate, but effectively it's a mandate. Yeah, it's becoming everywhere, by the way, not just in the NFL. That's college football, Mac Brown said. Mac Brown said, what I've been told is that if every player gets the vaccine, we can operate as if this was pre-COVID time. Every coach does the same thing. If not, we've got to move on.

So it effectively is a mandate, and that's becoming the Buffalo Bills stadium. If you want to come to a game, you've got to have a vaccine. Now, I guess there's a potential state, federal. There's legal questions about that, and there's also logistical questions that have been going on for months with Ticketmaster and the places that are going to be obviously facilitating some of that. Like, how do you prove you've been vaccinated? Those are all kind of macro questions that they're going to be sorting out in the coming

months. You get that card, you get that card, you just walk up and go, it's been triple stamped. Are you scanning that card and it's inserted in your ticket master account? These are all, all things that they've got to be able to figure out. But the more immediate thing is this tier one, tier two is banned. You are banned from being tier one one tier two as a staff member uh if you're not vaccinated yeah so that means for coaches again technically they're not mandating it but they're saying yeah so if you don't get the vaccine you can't be on the field you can't be in meeting rooms you can't

be anywhere on the football side of the building you know it's like milton from office space will move you down to storage room b, and you coach from there. But the season, there's not a lot of guys who are going to be on board with that. And so, yeah, the vaccination issue is going to be a huge thing. I think we talked about this before, too. If you go back to last year when the NFL recommended the flu vaccine for players, and that was in part because even though not many people were getting sick last year, it was because if you might get the flu, might have symptoms that look like covid now you're taken

out of practice you're taken out of the game you don't have it but the percentage of players that actually did that was extremely low there were some teams that had less than a handful of players that actually got the flu vaccine because there are founded reasons that people are skeptical of vaccines in general tom so you from the perspective, not only with the COVID thing, like you don't want to get the symptoms that potentially lead people to think that you, because at one point people are just getting their temperatures taken. If you had the temperatures like, yeah, you probably, you got to at least leave for a second and we got to get a double, triple test or whatever.

But the flu vaccine, that was always something that teams, from my understanding, have made available. Like, hey, because if the flu gets, that was always something the teams, from my understanding, have made available. Like, hey, because if the flu gets in your building, that thing's going to, you know what I mean, potentially take you out. So from the team standpoint, it's like, well, if we can at least try to limit that. And then, you know, as we all got smarter with the whole thing,

it's like, well, there's actually like 15 different strains of the flu, the vaccine. It's just like all of this shit has so many different views on it from people and everybody is kind of locked in on it it's going to be coming out of this whole covid thing is going to be almost just as insane as going into like not as i guess the world shut down please don't panic but i'm just saying coming out of this thing utah jazz game well coming out of this thing there's going to be a lot of shit that's going to get figured out that's going to piss off a lot of people by the way it's going to be we're in for it right now i just hope that you

and roge get another season off yeah because we're going to need it again ty what do you have tom pat briefly mentioned it there with the uh neuro link we've seen and i know you kind of already answered this but we've seen Elon Musk controlling that chimpanzee, playing ping pong, you know, basically just doing it for him. Are you sure? And this may be, you know, like it could have been against your actions. You might not even know about it. Are you sure that either Raj or someone at the league office isn't actually Neuralinked

into your brain and just sending you all this information? Because, I mean, it's true. You know everything, it seems like, before anyone else knows what's going on. It's unbelievable, Tom. Elon Musk controlled a chip? Yeah. Am I behind on this? When did that happen?

Well, by the way, you don't have time to look at the pong because the way your neural link is scheduled, you're just going to read memos all day. You know what I mean? I am locked in. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's really where i'm hung up no as far as i'm aware i have not had a chip uh implanted into my brain okay i

cannot cannot confirm uh fully never want to say never on anything uh but i'm unfamiliar with that tom can you tell that we're potentially very high earlier talking about you and every we start having a conversation about our conversations with tom we're always like it feels like that son of a bitch knows more from these memos and by the way you're never really I don't think anybody's ever come out and been like Tom's 100% wrong it's like you're like a robot with these things almost it is very fascinating I'm sure Dr. Goldman a man who has two PhDs would love to test your brain to see how that whole thing operates. Connor, what do you have? Yeah, Arrow, the Falcons have been making moves this morning. They signed Daron Harmon.

They signed Cordero Patterson. Are they gearing up to trade back and, you know, let some other team pick at four or what? The Falcons certainly would be open to opportunities to trade back. The real question is with the 49ers already having moved up to number three, who else is looking to go all the way up to number four? Because if you're the Falcons, you don't want to trade out of what you would regard, and every board's going to be different, but you don't want to trade out of those premium type of picks. I mean, if there's one team that we're looking at at this point that potentially would come up for a quarterback, it's probably

the Patriots, but they're sitting there at 15. That's a long way to go up to number four. You're talking about first-round pick and a lot more than that to be able to make that type of a leap. Now we've seen teams like the Dolphins execute kind of almost a three-way trade, which those aren't allowed in the NFL, but two separate trades that works that way, going down and then coming back up. There's a lot of different opportunities. And the fact that some trades have gotten done early in the process here uh provide some clarity where the

falcons have the opportunity to you know take those calls and potentially work out deals far sooner than you normally would have in a year where a lot of those big deals would be happening as you get into draft week you know really the the mystery within the league for teams at this point is what the 49ers do at number three and which quarterback it's going to be. We've certainly heard a lot about Mack Jones from Alabama. You know, that would be, if you were talking to people across the league, the consensus would be that that is probably the pick. They're going through, you know, the Justin Fields workout. They're going through the Trey Lance workout.

They worked with John Beck, who's training both those quarterbacks kyle shanahan to implement things from kyle shanahan's practices drills and throws footwork all things that kyle does into those second workouts to give them the best view possible so at minimum the 49ers are uh doing their homework here on all those quarterbacks and so so, you know, to a degree also, if you're looking to move up, you're wondering which quarterbacks are going to be available. And one thing that probably hasn't gotten enough attention when you're talking about how clouded it potentially could be there at 2-3-4, all three of those teams, the Jets, 49ers, and Falcons,

run essentially the same offense. Because the Jets and Mike LaFleur as their offensive coordinator, he's taken the Kyle Shanahan scheme with Robert Sala to New York. You of course have the 49ers who run Kyle Shanahan scheme. And then you have the Falcons who just hired a coach in Arthur Smith who learned the scheme from Matt LaFleur when he was the Titans offensive coordinator and had previously worked for Kyle Shanahan. So when you're talking about evaluating the traits, very similar. So there's a chance Darnold was going to be a Niner this offseason,

or is that bullshit you think? This morning there was conflicting reports. I'm not in the business of shooting down anybody else's reporting. Certainly there was a thought that Darnold could be a fit for that offense, but Joe Douglas talked about it publicly. They had the opportunity to financially reset through the course of this offseason, and obviously they feel very confident about the type of quarterback they're going to be able to get at number two.

Okay. All right. Thank you so much, Tom. You're the absolute best. People go through many changes as we get older, isn't that right? Oh, yeah. For men, one of the less fortunate changes is that testosterone production begins to naturally decrease in the body. Did you know this, AJ?

I am aware. For most men, it begins around the age of 30, and testosterone production declines by roughly 1% per year. My god. So if you live to 130, you ain't got shit left. No. Minus 30. Well, if it starts around 30, this is one of those questions on a test where, you know,

begins around 30. And the testosterone production declines by roughly 1% per year. So does it start at zero or does it start at 30? That's the thing. This is where they can get you. It's one of them damn word problems. This is one of those rounds where you're like, oh, wait a minute.

Which, can I ask a follow-up? Anyways, I was good at those tests because I always viewed it as me versus the fucking teacher. That's right. I don't know what's going on, but this is me versus you. Fuck you. That's how I view it.

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A college football national champion, a Super Bowl champion, ladies and gentlemen, A.J. Hawk. Yeah! You look terrible. Oh, my gosh. You look so bad. You guys look terrible. I was going to say you look terrible oh my god you look so bad you guys look terrible I was going to say

you look terrible in whatever this setup is you have right now oh yeah you know why listen listen everybody has said

how good we have looked for the last hour actually we've been standing ovation giving to Zito in every single break AJ we've been clapping

like Zito no idea how you did this no idea how Zuto tim and cfo phil were able to put this thing together the fact that they did we appreciate obviously but aj i think now is the time for us to announce you know a 7500 contest basically don't you think so yeah it sounds like a good idea what let's do it what what made you wait until now well is this a good time well there's a meeting i had to attend to this morning and we assumed

that things were going positively we thought it would be uh this i thought this meeting was going to lead to another meeting zito thought he potentially had another week and a half two weeks to do this so i just want to let everybody know the fact that this has come together has been a uh blessing from whichever god you believe i'm not getting into that conversation whichever god you believe in this is an absolute blessing but this morning yeah it was like uh it was a quick like hey how you doing let's go ahead and make this thing happen so it's probably going to come out maybe in the next few days so we got to give at least people that have been following along on the internet a chance to guess and if you're going to guess and participate in something especially with what just happened

have to give away money 7500 use the hashtag pats up to something okay that's p-a-t-s-u-p-t-o-s-o-m-e t-h-i-n that is it no g okay pats up to. No G. Okay, Pat's up to something. I'm up to something. Pat's up to something. Most accurate. Now, be descriptive here, okay? Because I have seen people kind of, yeah, Ty just told Connor to get the hell out of the way there. And we don't have it properly, completely sized on the other side there. Okay.

Got to do it in a favor, actually. Yeah, yeah. There we go. And we got it. Our new led board is a hysterical thing here. But most accurate be descriptive now. Okay. Be descriptive. The most accurate descriptive guests will win $7,500 when you tweet with the hashtag pats up to something with your guests. If there are numerous correct responses, okay. Numerous accurate guests, If there are numerous correct responses, okay, numerous accurate guesses in our eyes, in the panel's eyes, the money will go to the person who had the tweet first, which we will search and then go all the way down to the bottom, $7,500.

Go ahead and let them fly. I've seen the speculation from everybody. I appreciate everybody's investment into this. It feels as if people are excited and feel like people know what's going to happen. Let's go ahead and give you a $7,500 tweet. Hashtag PatsUpToSomething. AJ, will you be participating in this? Because I've gotten numerous text messages from you over the last couple of days kind of giving your guesses and such.

Well, you got my guesses after you texted me and asked me, Hey, what do you think I'm up to? You have guests, though. You have guests. I have. At this point, you are a observant human, don't you think? Oh, yeah. AJ's very observant.

He's a hawk. AJ knows how we operate, and this was an actual thing to not let AJ know. Like, not even, because AJ doesn't even know the conversations were happening with whoever was happening. He actually, whenever I said, hey, I'm up to something and started doing it on the show, there was an actual, like, is this, what are you? What are you up to? And I was like, well, I'm not telling you. I'm not telling you.

But now at this point, you've been through a couple guesses. Will you be participating in trying to get a $7,500 bonus because you've been left in the dark over there in stupid Ohio? Well, I haven't exactly been badgering, asking you guys, like, what are you guys up to? By the way, you have not. You have not. You've played into the game. You've given a couple guesses. I kind of like it.

Yeah. I kind of like being, I kind of like trying to figure out, trying to guess. And all I've come up with is if this thing, like, whatever you are going to do, it better absolutely, like, blow my socks off, as they say, with all the hype that's going into it. Now, we have potentially worried that there's a chance, you know. Like if you're not announcing that you are going to be the Rocks vice president when he runs for president, then like, I don't know. He already has a vice president. Watch Young Rock, dude.

He already has a vice president. Okay, 2032. We're coming. I'm coming. Who's coming? The homeless guy came back? No, it, dude. He already has a vice president. Okay, 2032. We're coming. I'm coming. Who's coming? The homeless guy came back? No, it wasn't. He OD'd.

It wasn't Chet. Waffle? Waffles. It wasn't French pancakes. It wasn't. It wasn't. Memorable character. Chet Hanks?

It was not Chet Hanks either. Who knew Dubai? What do you think it's going to be, though? Will you give a guess? Well, the fact that you're in that studio, are you going to be traveling home in the next few days? What's that, bub? Will you be traveling home anytime soon,

or are you down there right now for good? I plead the 1, 2, 3, 4, 5th on that particular one. I don't think that is a piece of information that needs to be known. I will let you know, though, this is a nice house. Very nice house. Gorgeous. Nice house. So, yeah, if you set up a studio inside a house with that giant screen,

then you're going to be there for a while. Maybe. Yeah. Maybe not. What's your guess? I mean, I don't have a guess. The fact that you're actually going and staying somewhere, that's what's weird.

Like, whatever it could be, Monday night football, you don't have a good the fact that you're actually going and staying somewhere. That's what's weird. Like whatever it could be Monday Night Football. You don't need to move for that daily. It's got to be something we show. Why would you why would you need to move everyone? It does Monday Night Football lives all over because it only be because that would be in partner with you

joining Greeny or something daily on that show. Okay, I'm not doing Monday Night Football. It will rule that out about Thursday Night Football. Okay, so i'm not gonna do this game with you okay there's 7500 we're good i got it don't worry yeah we're good okay you don't need to move though i'm gonna let you know you don't need to move just to go do bezos thursday night okay congratulations congratulations where you're playing where are you gonna to play? What's that? Where are you going to play football somewhere? Oh. Oh.

Is that what you're thinking now? What's that all about? I thought you were doing – You never know with you. I mean, with you, you never know. You like to always pop up a little picture of you kicking some balls in some random park every once in a while. Hey, that's – Hey, AJ, that's because –

Hey, AJ. Hey, AJ. So those are a hint. That's a hint, right? That's a clue. It is not. I forgot my glasses. I don't know how I did it.

I was so bummed I got down here. I forgot my CBD PM. I forgot my glasses. I forgot a lot of things down over here. Oh. Oh, am I down? Am I down? Am I down? Oh

Crazy Anyways Let's move along You have to tweet With the hashtag Pats up to something To enter officially We will not count

This thing that you just did Both Five guesses you just gave Basically This will not count You will have to tweet By the way You can enter as many times

As you want Go ahead But be descriptive. Remember, there will be, you know, be as descriptive as possible. Because when we find, when we search for the winning, we're going to be very descriptive. Yeah. Then we'll dumb it down a little bit. There might be numerous people that do that.

Then you have to go down the first one. So be as descriptive as possible. Limit to 10 guesses. but if you want to do 100 yeah we're not gonna count hey or or pat it could be uh maybe you're down filming a movie you're gonna be there for like three months maybe atlanta i know they film a lot of movies there up north in canada they do right now with covid i'm sure that's not the case so maybe you did maybe you you grew from your first role when you were the doucher wearing tassel shoes and khaki pants that had nice pleats in them.

Maybe you jumped up to number one on the call sheet for that movie. Well, listen, I will say, because we did give away what that show was. Yeah. It is not, it is definitely not involving that particular show, which I am excited to watch, by the way. But maybe, maybe, hey, maybe you are onto something over there, AJ. You're going to have to tweet it out, though,

because all these bullshit guesses you're giving won't count towards the $7,500, AJ, which could potentially buy you a new camera, because we're thousands and thousands. Potentially. Probably not, actually. We're not that far away from the studio. Maybe we are. But we're way away.

And we're connected to the boys back in Indy. We're connected to Sirius YouTube right now. Perfect. We have an LED board behind us. And you just look like somebody, like Bob Ross painted you onto the screen, basically. Believe me, that's not coming from my camera. That's with, however, the connection. No, it's not connection no it's not the arrow was just had the arrow oh this

is tim cook huh what arrow oh palisaro yeah hey did you hear what he said by the way what he was talking about basically the the ota thing that you and i kind of have already talked about how this is going to get made into a big deal because it's going to be players disagreeing with other players and teams doing things with other teams and it's the NFL and the NFLPA it's going to get blown out of this is going to be something that's going to get taught but OTAs in the grand scheme of things like I understand development matters and coaches love it because coaches love the coach like that's what coaches love to do in the grand scheme of things these these don't matter like they what happens in the OTAs it definitely helps like I'm not getting crazy but nothing

matters until fall like the OTAs you could be a very different team in OTAs than you are in a team this is going to become something though I think because we're involving vaccines now he's talking about how coaches have reached out to him about how they're not happy because although it's for emergency purpose it's not NDA approved or something like that. And there's coaches that have reached out to them and they're like the tier one, tier two mandate, basically. So now not only do we have OTAs in an NFL and NFL PA potential beef, now you got the vaccination beef that is happening in our world.

Very loudly. You got all this thing kind of coming into one for something in the grand scheme of things isn't that important. But, man, it's going to become something I think it already is. Well, don't you think it could become much more important if there's, say, half the teams that are sitting out all offseason and then some teams come back and they actually have full OTAs? Well, the teams that are going to have full OTAs, we assume,

are going to be better teams, especially with younger coaches, right? Like the rookie head coaches last year, what, they just stunk, right? Oh, they weren't great. They just absolutely stunk. And was it because they stunk as head coaches, or is it because they didn't have a chance to do anything in OTAs? They're probably trying to learn how they're going to be a head coach during those OTAs, how to address the team, how to talk to the team,

what to do during practices, how to set up the day, manage the day, the bullshit that could come. There's a lot of things that go into being a coach. If you don't have OTAs, if you're in a brand new position, you could potentially not know what the fuck you signed up for or whatever. So I think coaches definitely want this thing. But then the NFL is like, well, there's a chance you have to get the vaccine to do that.

There's going to be some coaches that say, no, it's just this is going to be a fucking colossal mess. And for the teams themselves, like if half the Patriots team doesn't show up or whatever, will the other half hate them? There's no chance those guys make the team, right? Yeah. With Bill Belichick, they said there'll be no consequence if you opt out for COVID situations. That was immediately upon saying it. I think you and I said, that's not true. Like, I love the fact that they're saying it,

and that can be a great, that's a great theory, by the way. Hey, that's a great theory to have. I love that that's in there, but that's just not, we're in a human business, and the NFL is a, hey, who, do we want to, you know, go to battle with this guy if he opts out to not be with us? It's a team thing. We just knew that wasn't going to work,

but it's going to become some teams go, some teams don't, some players get cut, some teams stink. I mean, it's just, it's never ending, AJ.

It's all bullshit. Is there any way to solve this? Like, or is it just like things are going to go on and be like they've always been? I don't know. I think the ramp up could potentially work if they extended it a little bit before training camp, you know, if they had like could potentially work if they extended it a little bit before training camp. If they had an OTA kind of thing, a little bit longer,

and then go into the ramp-up that everybody loved. During those OTAs, the rookies can be on the field and doing their workouts, so then the same ramp-up is similar to what it was last year, which all the veterans like. I think they could do that, but that involves a lot of collective bargaining. That's a lot of, you know what I mean, to get that done. Well, don't you think, I don't know. Yeah, like as Ty, that's a great question because is there something that can happen where both sides,

but okay, is there something the owners are saying that, hey, if we do this, the players, we're going to be fine. Like if we figure this out, I don't know what that answer is. Like even if, I know the Broncos are setting up a vaccination site at their place for players for family members that live there with you they're having like a conference call or zoom with doctors to try to explain the vaccine to anybody that's going to come in and get it but to try to say you can't say hey if guys all come in and get vaccinated then they can come in and do their off-season program and be all right because there's no way every player in the nfl is going to agree to get vaccinated it's and that is people can you know say what they want like yo guys will do it if they can get back in the field it's like man the reason why the race like

and there's a lot of like the the opt-out and the thing the owner said like there's a lot of guys i feel like with religious beliefs that would not get the vaccine. I think I know multiple guys like that. A bona fide health or religious reason. If they don't have a bona, they need a bona. Hey, we need a written essay. What's a bona fide religious reason? What does that mean? So God told me, listen, Raj. All right.

Spoke to God immediately upon reading this memo. God told me, ain't doing it. And if that ain't bona fide, what do you want me to go? Get some gold plates in upstate New York? What do you want me to do, dude? You want to climb to the top of a mountain? What's that? How could Raj do that?

You can't really say, hey, no, your religion is not as old as this guy's religion, so it doesn't matter. Your religion doesn't count as much as this one, so your reason is not bona fide. Hey, in the United States of Goodell, though, there is a chance that these religions will be judged. There is a chance that they will be judged. All guys will be making up shit.

Oh, my God. Which religion involves not having to get vaccinated? Guys will be like, that don't want to get vaccinated. By the way, there's humans out there that do not. We can act as if that doesn't happen. That is happening right now. Like that is very, that's a really controversial thing happening in the world.

Um, but there'll be guys is like, what is the religion that I don't have to get vaccinated? I'm that religion for sure. They'll read, they'll read two Wikipedia pages. They'll write an essay. They'll be like,

yeah, I'm fucking, uh, Buddha, dude, yeah, I'm fucking Buddha, dude. Yeah. I'm a Buddhist, bro. They'll be the NFL Koresh. There'll be a Koresh coming out of the NFL now saying, hey, look, what I believe in doesn't tell me I need that. Yeah. So why is that even in the memo?

Maybe it's not going to be that big of a deal. Maybe we're just making some of nothing. Oh, that's what sports are in the offseason. OK, let's talk about some things that are complete bullshit. Possibly. Justin Fields pro day yesterday, AJ. It was somebody gave an opinion that it was held off TV because the teams that chose to invest to go there didn't want other people to see what was going on.

Now, I have no idea if that's accurate or accurate or not. I do not like that it was done on TV. I think it's unfair to Justin Fields, actually, by the way. I think if he would have had another pro day where it was just him, just like Zach Wilson had his own day where it was just him, I think he would have had a chance to absolutely dominate. But if this is what the teams wanted, the teams are going to get what they want. From your birdie that was potentially in the building,

all signs and pictures sound like in videos that have been released. Justin Fields crushed it yesterday. Is that what you're hearing as well? Yeah, that is what I'm hearing from people that were there inside the facility. Yeah, he looked as impressive as he did last time and maybe even a little bit better than his first program. Okay, and also you've compounded that with a quote that Connor found on the internet.

Sermon, the running back, he had a quote that came out. Now, listen, Sermon is teammates with Justin Fields. This is just like the Devontae Smith, Mac Jones, Tua thing. Now, granted, I think that is tough to put somebody in that situation that they did where somebody, Mac, and then somebody else came out and was like Mac, and then a private conversation was leaked publicly. Mac, it's just like, okay, so that'll happen. But Sermon said that basically

everything he's hearing about Justin Fields is a bunch of bullshit almost. He said he's a great leader. He was tough. He was everything like that. Is there a chance here in the last 14 days, we got two weeks until the first round, where this narrative that we've

heard hyped gets completely reversed that that would be awesome for justin fields and also something we got to remember next year as a not so naive show i think you know well i don't think we will remember it next year it seems like it's we're so easy to forget because oh man you just jump on stuff that people hear true but i think yes the narrative could absolutely change over these next couple of weeks and for justin fields hopefully for him it changes into the right i almost feel like though it's it's starting to go that way like people are questioning like oh is he could he go three to san fran like who what teams truly are interested in him and like you said it's all garbage nobody really knows except for those 32 people making that decision but man

the closer you get i feel like there's more chaos involved well then there was a report this morning that sam darnold was almost traded to the niners for the 12th overall pick but joe douglas and company uh had questions about zach wilson's elbow or something like which by the way i didn't know we had shoulder i didn't know we had questions on Zach. Well, did we know that there was... He had an injury his junior year, I think, and he had to miss a bunch of time to get surgery. I did not know we had questions. That never came out.

He skyrocketed. I did not know that there was potential injury issues. And then to hear that, and then it was immediately debunked by another insider. I was like, nah, that's not true. It's just like, who knows? Well, then I saw a bunch of people making a big deal about Matt Ryan before him and Kyle Shanahan were together in Atlanta.

He was taking shotgun snaps with his left foot back, and then he switched them. And the same thing happened with Justin Fields. At his pro day yesterday, he was doing it the same way, so people were saying, like, oh, have these guys been together? Is he kind of morphing into Shanahan's style right now? Did you see that? Yeah, I saw that i do yeah i don't think san francisco probably maybe they did ask them to do that or maybe the players know like hey i need to show them what what i would look like in their

system well in i don't know if the left foot back or the right foot forward is a system tell or anything like that i think quarterbacks change what they do at shotgun. I mean, that happens. You know what I mean? It's whatever's comfortable, yeah, for sure. And they go through phases, by the way. Peyton landed on that. Peyton landed on the – he had his foot back almost, and then he would come.

You know what I mean? Like, I don't know if he always did that. Like, they move their action. There's guys that, like, you know, the clap happens sometimes, and then they do a whole thing.'s guys that like you know the clap happens sometimes and then they do a whole thing that is depending on the play yeah hey depending on the play too if the quarterback has a little rpo or something he might try to wait till the last possible second to shift his feet if he needs to have right foot back or or left foot back to try to whatever the handoff motion may be or play action but man it is and i i've heard i think um uh swagoo i think swagoo tweeted this and i think uh i saw some other people i think damian woody was uh also tweeted i think there was a couple people

ryan clark might have got into it as well it feels like this is becoming like a uh a pretty common thing the over analysis that is happening and i think it's because the nfl and nfl media it's just, it has grown so much. Like even in the last year, it feels like more people are invested in the NFL. There seems like there's more shit happening with the NFL. There's more trades. There's more rumors. There's more GMs in there that I think are more active. There's just like, it's constantly evolving into like this everyday thing. It's, it it's it's becoming a pain in the ass though when it comes to the analysis of potential college prospects that we are no never ever going to

watch full film on you know never never ever going to do that i'm never going to do that so i just have to take the word of people that i respect and then those people's changes or opinions are they're evolving as well as they see more things it It's like, well, I'm getting secondhand fucked here. You know what I mean? This entire thing. You know what I mean, AJ? I think a lot of people, though, there's a ton of people that you may see on TV or listen to on the radio where at certain times, yeah, they're just kind of parroting what they've heard from other people. There's no way to truly study every person.

I mean, Mel Kiper and the draft experts, they definitely do. They know every single person there. I feel like, but what they might have the Tom Pellicero brain and they just read everybody's name or whatever, you know, but by the way, did you hear us dissect Tom Pellicero earlier?

No, I did not. I didn't get to see all of them. I saw a real little bit. Okay. So we had a conversation about Tom coming on and we're like, every time Tom comes on, he is,

it sounds like he is speaking directly for Roger Goodell. Like he's an extension of Roger Goodell. It really, every time he comes on and I'm not saying we don't like it. I'm not saying we love it. We're not, I'm not saying that. I'm just saying that's something we have to think about when somebody comes

on. It's like, all right, we got to remember where this is. Information's coming from as we continue to do this whole thing. So today we decided in a vitamin state, uh, before like, all right, we got to remember where this information is coming from as we continue to do this whole thing. So today we decided in a vitamin state before, like, hey, we're just going to address it with Tom. Like, today is the day we are going to just ask him about. We asked him about a potential.

Neuralink. Neuralink. Elon Musk from Roger Goodell potentially in his brain at all times. He reads those memos and he just collects it and then just regurgitates the entire memo so whenever he's whenever he's giving an answer it is like maybe the most informed well thought out answer for why the NFL is doing what and it's because he's literally just telling you what all the NFL lawyers and PR people put together to announce. He just reads 17 page memos. And like the next day he's just coming out.

Boom. This is what it's doing. It is fascinating to hear that entire shit. Cause the NFL is spinning stuff too. The NFL is always spinning stuff as well. But does he, on the other side though, will he read stuff that from the PA or what players are trying to do or

somebody pushing against the NFL? And can he regurgitate that? Yeah, I think he can. But by the way, since the beginning of time, the players' messaging is always much, much worse. I don't know why. We talked about this during the CBA negotiation.

I was actually pleading. I almost got into some media beef because of the way I was talking. I was like, hey, the only people that are releasing any information right now during these cba negotiations just like the last time by the way that we were a part of is the nfl the nfl is leaking the offers the information the reasoning so then the media they have that information they're like the nfl offered these fucking spoiled players you know what i mean that's kind of how it all goes there and i was like pleading like nflpa can you please like just just leak some not to me that doesn't have to be to me. Just leak some information to somebody to explain like in a real coherent,

like, Hey, this is why we're doing it. And then all of a sudden the narrative potentially changed. I don't know if the players have ever really recognized that as a massive part of this entire thing, especially publicly. And ultimately in the end, they're never going to win the PR battle either, though. You know? Well, those billionaires are billionaires for a reason.

Those guys and girls have grown up. What they've done, they've built up their big old company or they've taken over a company that wasn't their family or whatever. And they're used to dealing with lawyers and contracts and negotiations all the time. Players are used to playing football.

They're used to, oh, hey, my agent will take care of that. That's all that matters. Yeah, get me. I am not reading that. contracts and negotiations all the time players are used to playing football i've used to oh hey my agent will take care of that give me all the matters yeah give me i am not reading that are you kidding me they actually the nflpa sent like a 10 page something you remember this during the first cba it was like a 10 page email and they asked us to vote on something or whatever and i was like i should not be asked to vote on this there's zero chance i'm reading that fucking thing you know what i mean and then the media was like, the NFL knows that the players are not going to read through this whole thing. And it's like, you're 100% right.

The NFL is 100% right. I'm not doing it. But my entire take was like, I should not be voting. Like, hey, my vote should not matter on this. Because I am not reading this. It is not an informed take at all. Let's go ahead and let the people that are reading it do it. But then you've got to be like, are they actually,

are they just potentially getting what that 10-page email is from somebody else who wants something to happen? It's all big business, baby. Just like this. Hey, hashtag PatsUpToSomething. No G on the end. Give your guess of what you think the big announcement is going to be here within probably the next few days.

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Zito's got like five computers in front of him. And then Mansoury's over here with keys to a rocket ship. I'm trying to figure out this. I mean, it is. There's a lot going on, but they're behind the scenes, and we appreciate them. Matt Boston, Connor, Ty Schmidt is here. The boys in Indianapolis are here as well.

We're going to have a guest joining us at some point. Oh, it's a 20? No, it's 205, right? Oh, Zito thought it was 225. Zito just went behind the thing and was like this. I don't think I have my sheet here unless it's complete lie 205. Tony Fields II

will be joining us here soon. He's a linebacker that's about to come into the NFL. AJ, are you going to give him wisdom or things to think about whenever we talk to him here i don't have a whole lot for him i can hear the facetime calling him right now though can you hear that we cannot hear it so you must have the audio from the backside connected to you if i had to guess i cannot hear that no it is nice to know that we are calling him though that means things are happening you're not going to give him any advice what's that all about you think he's gonna maybe go to green bay i mean he definitely could go to green bay i think they could absolutely use

him but no i'm not one for uh to give unsolicited advice it's not really my uh my thing okay uh college football national champion super bowl champion all-time leading tackler for one of the oldest franchises in the nfl refuses to give any advice to our next guest who'll be joining us right now out of west virginia university played in the guest who will be joining us right now. Out of West Virginia University, played in the Senior Bowl, will be at the Combine, I believe. Incredible player, stud player, flies around. Can't wait to see where he gets drafted, how this whole NFL life changes for him when he gets into the men's league.

Ladies and gentlemen, Tony Fields II. Yay! What's going on, man? What's going on? How you doing? I'm good. Hey, those look like they're fresh twists here, sir. I mean, those just going on, man? What's going on? What's going on? How you doing? I'm good. Hey, those look like they're fresh twists here, sir. I mean, those just got done, huh?

Yeah, about two days ago. They got me right. Yeah, they look good. By the way, they look very good. I hope you're feeling good as well. How's the body? What is it like training for this entire offseason with COVID protocols and pro days and there wasn't a combine?

Now there is a combine. How are you feeling about the whole process right now, Tony? I'm feeling great. I mean, it's a different process for sure. I've never really been able to just work on strictly football. I've always had school as an obstacle in between it. So, I mean, now it's just strictly football. It's pretty cool to be able to take care of my body and get everything right.

Okay, so when you're meeting with these teams or coaches, have you met with anyone in person? And if not, what do you do? Do you Zoom with a position coach and head coach and GMs? What's going on? Since the senior bowl, we've met with all 32 teams at the senior bowl in person. But since then, it's been straight Zoom meetings, like straight phone calls or Zoom meetings or Skypes. That's about it. Do they ask you to, like, draw anything up?

Do they ask you to draw, hey, what's your favorite Blitz package or something? Do they do that for you? Look, I got my – right next to my laptop, I got my pen and paper right here. I got to draw that all the time. I got to sit there and draw a Blitz package. Yep, just like that.

Hold it up. We knew that football coaches by the way would do anything they can to figure out whatever questions they have have you been asked anything like uh psychological or personality it felt like like any stupid questions like if you were an appliance in a kitchen what would you be was there any of those dumb type of questions you've had to experience yet yeah for sure it's some crazy type of questions that you get asked. Like, I feel like the craziest thing was like, if I was the last person on earth, what would I do? How do you answer that? What did you say? Did you say anything? Yeah, I mean, it's hard. That's's what i told him i said it's hard to answer

that i don't know like i don't ever put myself in that position like to be the last man or ever i mean i guess i could do anything i would want to do oh yeah hey by the way i like the fact that you gave a diagnosis of the question which i assume the coaches would be like okay so he's going to think about why or how this would even happen if If I were you, if you could ask that again, just complete bullshit lie, I'd get lonely. You know, I love being around my teammates, my coaches. I have no idea what to do all by myself. What do you think about your game is going to transition well, though,

to the NFL? I guess at the Senior Bowl, you got a chance to work a little bit with an NFL defense and NFL coaches. I assume at the Senior Bowl, you got a chance to work a little bit with an NFL defense and NFL coaches. I assume a little bit of a scheme there. But what do you think about your game? Because you fly around, which is what I think is a massive thing. I think that's it.

But for you, mentally, do you think it's going to be a big transition or do you feel pretty comfortable with what the game's going to be like in the men's league? I feel comfortable with the mental aspect. I mean, I feel like my speed, like you said, I fly around. I feel like that's game's going to be like in the men's league? I feel comfortable with the mental aspect. I mean, I feel like my speed, like you said, I fly around. I feel like that's what's going to help me out at the end of the day. It's going to help me get past the little

small things that I didn't have right away. But, I mean, as long as I get it as far as the playbook and mentally, I'll be good. Do you ever look at any teams in the NFL right now and look at their scheme that they run on defense and feel like, hey, I think I would do well in that scheme? Yeah, all the time. I watch

every team, really, especially with all these meetings. You have to learn some of the schemes. You learn and you learn, like, oh, yeah, I know I'll fit in this scheme or some of them a little bit more shaky than the others. I got a chance to chat with a couple people at West Virginia

whenever you were coming on. They were like, a guy works, he's a worker. Like, Hey, this guy, this guy is a worker. Like I think that is the biggest thing. I think honestly, if you have the ability and if you're a worker, like I just feel like that is the separator between everything. So whenever people were telling me that about you, I was like, Oh, that's great news. Can't wait for another West Virginia guy to have success in the nfl we're talking to tony fields

uh the second am i am i saying that right the second yes sir yes sir that's awesome do you have any like nicknames like deuce or anything they call you two or anything nah nah surprisingly no i thought i was gonna get one but nah they just called me only thing tone that's my only nickname really tone we got a tone as well our tone pretty dumb degenerate gambler you're a bunch of different tone than he is um do you focus at all i guess you haven't really been baptized into the business of the nfl yet but have you had any conversations with either your representations or have you had financial people that have already tried to talk to you or anything like that as you transition into a very new world for everybody, which is what the NFL is?

I mean, yeah. I think as of this week, I think I've finally established my full team within financial advisors, PR, I already have my agency and everything like that. I already have my full team behind me to help me out so I can focus on straight football for real. Do you have a, uh, any deal yet with a shoe company? Do you know if you're going to be wearing Nike's next year?

Do you know anything? I'm waiting till after the draft for that, but I don't, I honestly don't know. Do you care? Do you care which brand you go with? I don't, I don't. I love, I mean, I want to play football. I don't really.

Yeah! Hey, that's what I'm talking about, Tone. Listen, they can all pay to get on your feet, all right? Listen, we don't. There's a couple pairs of shoes that A.J. Hawk put on over there that literally felt like cardboard wrapped around plastic on his feet, but Under Armour click-clacked his bank account in a beautiful fashion. Uh-huh.

Yeah. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. You're going into the business world of this thing. Connor, what do you have? Yeah, Tone, Pat mentioned the combine. Are you going to go, or do you feel like between, you know, crushing the senior bowl and dominating your pro day,

you've kind of done enough here? The combine was canceled, really. It was really more virtual virtual and it was medical things medical examinations for guys that got injured or guys that didn't play football really this year so um it was more just the pro days what did you have to do at the workouts were you prepared for all the the did you like for instance the 40 like that is you said you have nothing but time to focus on football, but I hear a lot of guys that are like, I'm never going to have to do this again. I assume with how fast you were, that was a rather easy process.

Do you have a track background? Do you think that helped you in this whole thing? Or do you just think your natural body of work was good for you? I mean, I don't have a track background. My family ran track. My dad ran track. Maybe that's why the speed in my blood a little bit. But, yeah, like running's always natural to me so just getting ready to run the

forum was the number one thing for the 40 i read a couple scouting reports on you okay because i watch the games but i'm not a college scout like i'm not doing that like i don't have the will or the ability no i hear you you know what i will or the ability. No, I hear you. You know what I mean? But the scouting report, positive, was like, you know, the negative was that you're maybe too small to hit somebody. What is that all about? Why is that a negative that's being talked about with you?

I did not see that on the field at all, at all, at all with you. Do you think that there has been anything that's been said about you or maybe coaches have asked about that you think have just been completely you know kind of bullshit almost i mean only thing that you can say like you said is the size i mean but i'd never let that slow me down and at that i mean uh this season i played at 222 and i'm 230 right now so i'm already up to weight i'm probably gonna go up five more pounds get 2355, and I'll be solid. So that exercise won't be a factor no more either, really. Hey, I want to let you know, I went into a season at 255 once. Just know that.

Solid, huh? No, no, no, no, no. I couldn't catch anybody. But if I did, I would have hit the fuck out of them. I mean, I couldn't catch them. They were running right by me. But if I could, man, that would have been a collision. Ty Schmidt, what do you have? Tone, have you putting any thought into uh like what's gonna happen on draft day like

uh what are you gonna be doing are you gonna have like a big circle with you is it gonna be pretty tight like have you really thought about that at all yet or are you just you know kind of just waiting for the whole thing to be done um I feel like I'm gonna have everybody there that I feel like helped me get there, helped me establish who I am today. So like my family and close friends. But later on that day, I might have like something a little bit bigger within like more friends and more people that I know out in Vegas. Yeah. Smart, by the way. Obviously, socially distanced and all.

Yeah, obviously. Listen, dream come true, all right? Day you've been dreaming about and working your ass off your entire life. We'll do it properly, though. We will celebrate that thing. Hey, no matter what happens in the draft, it does not matter. I hope you know that. And I try to say it to everybody,

and I know if somebody told me that whenever I was going into the draft, I would have been like, I don't need to hear that from you. But legitimately, it does not matter. As long as you get in a building is the only thing that matters. So if something doesn't go exactly how you think it's going to go, it does not matter at all. It's just the beginning of either getting a bigger bag at some point or a long ass, you know.

Not that you ask for advice, but this is just something I would give you because I was devastated whenever I wasn't drafted to where i thought it was going to be i was going to go and then whenever i slid to 222 which you will never see but when i was way down in the seventh round it was like it did not fucking matter in the grand scheme of anything so i hope you just enjoy the hell out of that day and that weekend yes sir for sure i appreciate you yeah no problem aj you got anything for Tony? Well, the size thing we were talking about, you're already up to 230. That's plenty big.

I think that's the most – that's like the laziest thing to put a knock on players, especially coming into the league now. Like you should be between 220 and 230. As long as you can run and you prove that you can hit, like you don't need to weigh 245. It's just an old dumb narrative. I wouldn't worry about that either. Yeah, don't need to weigh 245 it's just a it's an old dumb narrative i wouldn't worry about that either yeah don't put on sure yes they don't hey don't get fat and slow over there tom oh right yeah don't get fried foods uh hey listen you might be able to i've had teammates that were able to

just i mean ocho cinco he's literally a mcdonald's commercial and he's maybe the most fit human of all time at this point I'm told that that'll kill me and I'll gain 500 pounds I don't know what's true I don't know what's right anymore at this age with the new offenses Tony with the new offenses okay RPOs everything like that you've kind of come up through that entire era right it's like old school linebackers whenever the RPOs kind of got introduced it was like oh, oh, this isn't football. The linemen are leaving. How are we supposed to do whatever?

They're dropping it behind. I feel like that's an advantage for the younger linebackers that you've kind of been, you know, kind of birthed in this RPO offense since high school almost, into college, and now it's definitely in the NFL game. Thousand percent. I mean, playing in it, and I played offense in high school. I had to play in it. I had to play against it. It was just a lot of, it's, it's up pace, uh, football's up

pace compared to what it was back in the day, in my opinion. You grew up in Vegas. How was that? Pretty cool. Yeah, it was pretty cool. I mean, I didn't really get out a lot. Uh, my pops kept me tamed. He's going to have to be like, yeah,les on the shackles on me yeah that's smart you're gonna go do uh vegas your hometown whenever you get a bag one time and you're gonna be like oh this is why my dad kept the shackles on me good luck in the draft we appreciate your time thanks for your service at west virginia you're a hell of a ball player, Tony. Yes, sir. I appreciate you for having me. Ladies and gentlemen, Tony Fields II. Tone's a good name.

Great nickname. Tone's a great nickname. I like him. I like him a lot, AJ. You can tell he cares about football. He wants to play. He doesn't care about all the other stuff. By the way, that was exactly what the thing said. Small size could limit him on hitting or whatever.

It's like Buda Baker kills people. Yeah. Go ahead. I think when they talk about linebackers and their size, if they want to bring up possible durability issues, if you're like 220 pounds, they may say, hey, you might not make it through the season. But that's all on an individual basis.

But no, the game is, as he said, the game is spread out, RPOs, tackling space, like you need to be able to move. Now, to be fair, if Patrick Ricard turns his corner on somebody who's potentially not 270, you know, there's a chance you're going to have to eat that. You know what I mean? That is the football. And by the way, you eating that block is actually your job on that play so it's like i guess you could shed and blow up patrick cagard or some other fullback maybe i guess sherman's retired juice or whatever or anybody that's going

to do that but the game is so different now and there aren't as many fullbacks and big guys like that like wouldn't you rather have a dude who is smaller who can move sideline to sideline and cover you know these slot receivers who are evolving the game? He'd be good at the Packers, huh? The Packers. Yeah, he probably would. For sure. Well, and that's what I was curious.

I don't know where he's projected to go, but a guy going into the draft like that, what do you think his agent, between where is he expecting to go, you think? If he's not a first-round pick. I have no idea. I tried to do as much research as possible, but I didn't get to any part that said where he was projected. I have no clue where he's going. Do you think he's thinking that, like, okay, I might go in the second round,

but then he's got some people telling him, like, well, it actually might not be until, like, the fourth round. I just feel like if you're not a first-round pick in these mock drafts or wherever, it's just like you really have no idea where these guys are going to end up going. I'm trying to see if we have the Indianapolis studio connected right now to us.

Do we have that right now, Zito? Technically, no. No, we do not. Technically, no. What? What's that? I'm going to hang up and AJ will call me back. Oh, so we can't have AJ and the boys.

We got to switch the computers. Of course. Of course, I would have never. So after the break, we'll potentially do that. Okay, that's good news. So the boys will close that hour three here. What were you going to say? What do you think they were looking for from that if you were the last person on earth?

Like, yeah, I'd restart the NFL. I'd do it all on my own, I'd say. Yeah. What's that, AJ? Don't you think you would have to mess with them i think i'd be like okay so in this hypothetical i'm the last person on earth and they said yes i'd be like okay well then i executed my plan to kill every other person on the planet and then just see what they say like with your stupid hypothetical question that would never happen i'm gonna give you an answer just as stupid what a fucking answer by the way that's number five overall pick uh-huh when he's going through when he's going through his questions yeah when he's going through his question number five overall

pick well you're the last person on was i the number five overall pick was i rich i don't give a fuck dude i'm playing football i just killed everybody i don't get out fuck, dude. Nope. I'm playing football. I just killed everybody. I don't know. Get out of here. I would assume with other people that potentially, you know, aren't college football national champions, aren't Under Armour faces. I don't claim. Listen, I don't claim that I would have had the balls to do that. I'm just saying it would be awesome to see somebody do that and see. Like, if I was a coach or a scout, I'd be like, okay,

I don't care where he's projected. I'm taking this. a coach or a scout, I'd be like, okay, I don't care where he's projected. I'm taking this. If this guy got so upset about the dumbass question and just decided to bury it completely in front of us, probably a guy we would like to have on our team. Probably a guy. But him saying that's a tough question, really,

I think that is potentially what they were looking for is like, okay, how do you digest something here that is absurd? That Last Man on Earth show, it was pretty good there for a season. I think it had a good season. Then they went to another season, I think, and they kind of ran it. Yeah, it stuck around for a little bit. But yeah, the first season of that was incredible. Awesome television down there.

All right, let's get to a break. We'll answer some phone calls, clean up uh or to finish hour three here the boys in indianapolis i'm sure they have had some thoughts on how this show has gone i can't wait to hear that aj did you tweet out your guess yet i have not tweeted it out yet oh it's because you don't know you still don't know i obviously i do not know no but you still don't you have like seven you gave seven guesses whenever we started talking about this about an hour and ten minutes ago. You still don't know which one's your best one.

Good thin news for you, though. You can put them all out there. That's right. Here we go. I can. Oh, I can put more than one guess out? A limit is ten. Okay.

I think we're safe. I'm not going to hit the max. Well, if you do, by the way, and you maybe put 20, we are not going to count. No. But you got to be descriptive. I can't.

I cannot stress that enough. What does that mean? You know what it means. It means you can't give some Mickey Mouse answer and think you're going to walk into 7500. Yeah, it's not going to happen. You got to be like, this is happening. You know what I mean? That's why you got 10 guesses.

Hey, listen. There's going to be ties because there's going to be a very descriptive answer we're going to search for. It's not going to be there. We're going to take one out, one word out, or one factoid or stat out. Right. Then all of a sudden it's going to go to whittle down. It's like, okay, who was first then?

So what you're doing right now, AJ, is potentially wasting time that it's going to lose you $7,500. This is just like Will Zalatouris who realized too late that he was one shot away, one shot away from the promotion from the Corn Fairy Tour. But don't you worry, Will Zalatouris, because you're going to come around, come in second in the Masters, then a week later, dominate a golf course and win that thing and get your PGA card. He is killing right now, AJ.

Did you hear that? I heard you say that. What tournament is going on right now? It's the AMC movie theaters are back RBC Heritage Open RBC RBC

AMC should put on a golf especially now just everybody hold hold in a line and watching these boys slaying golf balls all over the yard can't thank you enough for choosing to listen to the show the fact that and watching these boys slaying golf balls all over the yard. Can't thank you enough for choosing to listen to the show. The fact that you do, I am eternally grateful for.

There's a lot of things that can penetrate your ear holes. There's a lot of things that you can listen to and do whatever you're doing, whether it's work, working out, hanging out, whatever it is. I know there's a lot of people that are vying for your time to listen to. So the fact that you allow us to do so, I am going to be grateful forever for. Now, I'm not saying I'm going to do this forever, but I am very

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