The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 399 - Happy 4/20, The Death Of The European Super League, Congressman Anthony Gonzalez, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: April 20, 2021

On today's show, Pat and the boys chat about 4/20 and how even though it has been vilified for years, more people than you would realize actually participate in 4/20 festivities, plus they chat about different draft scenarios as we get closer to the NFL Draft, and chat about the picture floating around that suggests the Packers are preparing to trade Jordan Love, the 29th pick, and another late round pick, for the Patriots 15th pick (definitely not real). Joining the program is friend of the show, former teammate of Pat and AJ Hawk, member of the US House of Representatives serving Ohio's 16th Congressional District, United States Congressman, Anthony Gonzalez. Pat, AJ, and Gonzo chat about the bill he's trying to pass for the NCAA's name, image, and likeness, when he anticipates marijuana will become legalized in more states, how crazy the last year has been for him, what he thinks the problem with politics these days are, how you trust what you see in the news and where to look, when he expects Ohio to legalize mobile sports betting, if he'll ever run for President, and if he would consider making two footed driving illegal (22:59-56:56). Later, Pat and AJ chat about the shift in defensive line play and how this is the thinnest year for defensive line prospects, if AJ thinks that trend will continue in the future with the way football is changing, Laremy Tunsil dropping in the draft despite having potentially the best lung capacity of any player in NFL history, the death of the European Super League which was gaining steam and losing steam yesterday, and much much more (59:22-1:36:39). Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow and listen every day on Mad Dog Radio, Sirius XM Channel 82. We appreciate you all for listening, come and laugh with us, cheers, and Happy 4/20. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello, it is Tuesday, April 20th, also known as Fall 20th. Hope you guys are enjoying your snacking, laughing, feel better, happy day. Please remember that tomorrow is a massive random drug test day, so keep your eyes and ears peeled and lay low, maybe keep your head on a swivel because there are still people on this planet somehow some way that aren't on board with this magical creation that comes from earth named mary jane have a great day i think we have a good conversation for you hope you appreciate it hope you enjoy it if you do please be a friend tell a friend if not just act like it never happened we talked to a sitting congressman. Big politics show.

Well, I mean, that's not a good lead off if you just listen to this. We are a sports dude show who doesn't know much about the politics realm. But every once in a while, a former teammate of both mine and AJ will come by and smarten us up on everything going on in the world. And some massive news, I think, for Ohio, marijuana, and the NCAA. Can't thank you enough for choosing to let's get to it happy 420 to all of you wherever the hell you may be whether it's on sirius xm or watching along on youtube now 420 is obviously a celebration of you know an herbal remedy that makes a lot of people feel a lot better about themselves both physically and emotionally and the range of humans that celebrate 420 can go from you know some bum that's sleeping on a couch i mean that's going to happen every once in a while

but it also goes all the way up to the most successful people on earth and i think for far too long a certain plant has been labeled a maybe a bum producer a laziness creator a inactivity starter i mean it feels like the way marijuana was viewed by some people for a long time is as if it was the worst thing on earth now i happen to believe that's because a lot of people who are currently in power now and have a big say in the way things are run were first introduced to marijuana via the hippies after a war and the hippies basically stood for everything that the people now and potentially in power that hate um you know marijuana they hated everything that the hippies were for so i think the the first impression of it wasn't fantastic and then the nope to dope and then saying it was a gateway

drug which is an absolute bullshit statement okay that is an absolute i would assume by the way uh that anybody that has gone on to smoke uh meth which by the way don't want you to do that or do any other drugs don't want you to do that those people which is a very small percentage of people that smoke marijuana guess what else they i'm assuming that they've smoked cigarettes before. I'm assuming that they have drank alcohol before. So if you want to label them all potential gateway drugs to the people in our society that is very unfortunate, who don't know how to control or maybe keep things in proper perspective and go on to do something terrible,

you can't label one thing as the reason for that entire thing and this is not a hey it's better than alcohol or tobacco for you because it certainly is but that's never been a good sell what i would like you to know is that marijuana is at this point of time that it's almost going to be legalized i think it's only a matter of time maybe 2022 420 we're all smoking together maybe 2023 we're all smoking together because those people that have hated marijuana for a very long time have been kind of forced into trying it now at this point and turns out they all fucking love it there's a reason it's been around for so long there's a reason that people have tried and smoked it in different fashions, whether, you know, you're doing the peace pipe way back in the day, which is kind of evolutionized into, you know, you can hit a bong if you need to.

The bowl will always be there, which is what I was referring to for the peace pipe there. You can use a gas mask where you actually strap yourself into a fighter pilot's thing and have a steamroller out of the front of that and inhale it. And then you're just engulfed in it for a good 10 to 15 seconds for every breath and you might as well say goodbye to yourself there. There's blunts, there's cones, there's plenty of, there's water bombs, I mean there's water, you can take a Gatorade bottle, cut out a little piece of your screen, go ahead and put that in there, make a bong out of it, you can smoke out of an apple. There is reasons why the multitude of things you smoke out of is the way it is because people have

been trying to smoke this shit for so long because it is fantastic for you. It is great. It is awesome. And science proves it. People's happiness prove it. And I think the success of people that potentially use it also prove it. So if you're somebody out there that hates marijuana, I understand. I appreciate you. But you're fucking wrong. Happy 420 to you as well. Hope you guys have an incredible day. We have a show.

The Toxic Table is back. Boston Connor, Ty Schmidt. How you doing, boys? Great to see you. Great to be here, Pat. Happy 420. Happy 420. Happy you guys don't have COVID.

That's good news. Very happy about that. Zito, how you doing, pal? Happy you don't have COVID that's good news very happy about that zito how you doing pal happy you don't have covid either thank you yeah i feel good you had it one time i had it one time and i have a shot now and you beat it by the way yeah i did beat it yo actually i can't smell still i still can't smell no really it's very weird yeah so my brain is so powerful that i could guess what food tastes like oh yeah so right now you could potentially just be eating like um incredibly healthy things i could but yeah

i like pizza i didn't know what it smells like the smell though is a big part of the taste right yeah oh yeah and you could just kind of slip some i think that is a part of the whole process of why people don't do it i'm sorry you can't smell anymore. I thought you were an immunocorn. I thought you were past it. Hopefully that will come back at some point. Yeah, I said like six months it would come back. Yeah, but they don't know.

They don't know. Yeah, but they don't know. When they tell you that, did they even have a chance to have a six-month study yet? It's very true. They don't know. They have no idea, but happy you're back in here. There is some news that's involving the toxic table directly,

and it's happening in the football world. There was allegedly some photos leaked of a possible trade for the New England Patriots to trade with the Green Bay Packers, and in that trade would be Jordan Love. Toxic table representing both sides of this thing. Who would be more happy in that particular situation? Ty? Yeah, me, 1,000%.

1,000%. If you get rid of Jordan Love, guess what? Raj is in Green bay for the rest of his career he's retiring a packer but i mean do you think this is legitimate or do you think this is just trolling everyone that is kind of like you know in the middle of this aaron rogers drama not knowing if he's gonna be the quarterback i have no idea do we have the photos of this thing yeah because if we have the photos of this thing i have some questions here now if we're gonna move on from jordan love and say hey let's give aaron rogers 10 years this is your team pal let's go ahead and buy in here sorry about the first round draft pick we did just make a move though now with the patriots we're going to try to get

something else but if you're a patriot are you happy about this absolutely not are you kidding me i'm just happy here nobody's happy about this do we have the uh because i didn't really know where the photo had come from because it makes really no sense this is from gillette nation i guess i don't know the twitter account i don't know it's from a packer's desk is this where it's from it's from how did this get out is this a snapchat for those that are listening there was a photo released of somebody's desk and on the desk it has a a um like a binder with some photos or some paper hanging out the bottom of it and the top of it so perfectly hanging out the bottom of it and perfectly hanging out of the top of it and it says potential trade qb uh love and then round one pick, and then round one, pick 29, and then round, I think, two or something else and some other thing.

And then they would obviously be trading with the New England Patriots for this. So whose desk is this? Why do we care? And how did this become something on the internet yesterday? I have no idea. And why would the Patriots be sold enough when all we've heard is that they're trying to potentially move up to get their quarterback? Why would they give their 15th pick for Jordan Love and then the 29th?

Well, because they're getting their guy, Jordan Love. That's right. We were high on him in 2020, apparently. And, hey, this is a quarterback who's been learning from Aaron Rodgers for a year. Are you kidding me? They have not put on a uniform at the same time together. I don't think he dressed the entire season.

I don't think he did. He's been watching a lot of tape. But they were in film. And by the way, you go up to the Patriots, you get a chance to learn from Cam Newton. Exactly. You know what I mean? Maybe start hitting some nets in there.

Maybe Jordan Love's future would be a very bright one if it was around Bill Belichick. And I can't hammer this home enough. This is not Jordan Love's fault. No, it is not. Never has been. Jordan Love got drafted to a position that immediately made him

instantaneously hateable. Oh, yeah. Instantaneously. By an entire fan base that just saw their team get to the NFC Championship. Just saw the San Francisco 49ers gouge him for, I forget the exact total. Yeah, yards before contact on the grounds

who just run the Packers out of the building over there in Santa Clara, California to go to the Super Bowl. So everybody thought this draft alongside Aaron. I think Aaron even thought this as well. Hey, we make this team a little bit better here. We can go on a real run. Then they use their first round draft. Sorry, they trade into the first round to draft for the obvious future. round draft. I'm sorry. They trade into the first round to draft for the obvious future.

And that particular person that had no idea his dream just came true to be drafted to the NFL, let alone to the Packers, a storied franchise. He has no idea that he just got dropped into an absolute buzzsaw. What the fuck? Why are we doing this? That's how every Packers fan had to feel. You actually gave one of the loudest, godmit's and most tense goddammit's of all time immediately falling in his draft pick. There's no reason he deserved to have that, but maybe you move him on. Maybe he gets a chance to kind of see better places. Maybe he gets the experience and kind of spread his wings like Jimmy G behind Tom Brady. Maybe Jordan Love goes on to have a great career and this is all just an unfortunate situation for him. I think it would make sense.

I mean, he could use probably a fresh start. I mean, I'm sure a lot of people. This is Sam Darnold. Yeah, exactly, exactly. Like, if he stays right now, let's say Rodgers doesn't win MVP next year but still has a great year, Packers make the playoffs, and then he leaves and then Love comes right in. Like, he's still going to still gonna you know people are still

gonna they're gonna hate it so why not just kind of hey listen it didn't work out we made a mistake roger still got a lot left in the tank let's get you somewhere else and and give you a new beginning because he could he could use it i i think he could use a very fresh start i honestly believe that he could uh you know because if you go somewhere new, you've got to prove yourself. And I assume Aaron, Aaron said he'll answer any questions. I assume him and Aaron's relationship is okay. Imagine having Aaron as a guy you could text and ask questions to. Yeah.

And I think Aaron wants to do this right, but also understands, like, yo, this is not my, it's not my job to coach you either. Like, I don't know what you want me to do here, you know. And how pumped is Aaron, you know, when he finds out that if they do trade up to 50 and get like Devontae Smith, and then you partner him with Adams, and all of a sudden their offense is going. Oh, my God. Yeah.

He's potentially going to move. There's a lot of other things going on in the NFL as well. Mike Tomlin just got a three-year extension. Congrats to Mike Tomlin. This is unbelievable. I guess if he stays through this entire contract, which is likely, the Steelers I don't think are going to fire Mike Tomlin. This is unbelievable. I guess if he stays through this entire contract, which is likely, the Steelers, I don't think, are going to fire Mike Tomlin at this point,

short of his contract coming to an end. Maybe, I don't know. I would assume not. But this would be 55 straight years that the Steelers have had with like three coaches or something like that. Unbelievable. Teams are dying to find head coaches. There is a turnstile at the head coaching, I need a job market. I mean, it is all the time.

And the Steelers just go from one to another. And now they find Tomlin, who was a defensive coach for the Vikings whenever he came over. He was very young. Nobody had a clue what the hell a Mike Tomlin was, I think, outside of Minnesota. He comes in, leads them to a Super Bowl, absolutely beloved by his players, and now he's going to keep this thing rolling. I know there is Pittsburgh Steelers fans, and I think it's because of the amount of consistency

the Steelers have shown for so long. It's kind of a gift and a curse for the fans because the expectations get to a completely different level. But Mike Tomlin is beloved by a lot of people in Pittsburgh yep there is a a group of yinzers though that are about done with Mike Tomlin okay they say hey listen team's been good for a long time we want to win a Super Bowl it's not easy to be good for a long time in those teams that are good potential injury or two away

if you look back on a couple seasons of the pittsburgh steelers of them winning a super bowl i mean the the the crowning accomplishment of how good tomlin was with one tweet was in 2019 with uh duck Hodges and Mason Rudolph playing quarterback And they would complete less passes than I potentially have in a game. Okay? And that's not their fault. That's not their fault. Just the way things were going. We love Duck.

Oh, yeah. Duck is a player. Duck is a player, okay? Mason Rudolph, we don't know him, but we understand that he plays football as well. Right. You know? And it's one of those things. And not that he's not.

They almost made it. We were there for the night against the Buffalo Bills. Yeah. Who were turning things around. right you know and it's one of those things and not that he's not it's they almost made it we were there for the night against the buffalo bills yeah who were turning things around and by the way bills mafia was heavy in there they win that game somehow they're in the playoffs and that team should not have made the playoffs at all somehow tomlin had them believing that they were supposed to win those games they were not now there's a lot of people that say they almost made a playoff mark madden actually this morning almost made the playoffs is a crowning achievement. It's like winning with a bad team is like almost the best thing a coach can do.

Like that's the purpose of a coach. Now, can he go win another Super Bowl for the Pittsburgh Steelers? I think that is what all eyes are going to be on. And, you know, I think if you're – I'm pumped at Tom. Tomlin's one of the reasons why I'm in the NFL. I like Tomlin a lot. But could you imagine the Patriots, I guess? Yep.

Bill Belichick. Long time. Long time. Sean Payton. Sean Payton's been around a long time down there in New Orleans. I mean, the Packers. Yeah, McCarthy was there for a long time. But then LeFleur comes in, new coach.

Have had success, though. So there's three franchises, basically, that have been very, you know, content with new coaches. You've got to go Tony Dungy, Jim Caldwell, Chuck Pagano, Frank Reich. Spurts of success through all of those things there. Jim Caldwell, he got fucked. Yes. Twice. I mean, in Detroit, he got screwed as well.

But in Indy, he got absolutely. I mean, we'll lose our quarterback. Then allegedly there was people maybe higher up than the coach that were potentially planning for the future with Andrew Luck sitting there. Players did not know that. I don't think coaches knew that. But now that there's potentially stories coming out that said, you know, some decisions were being made at the high end through whatever potentially put us in the best position for success, which they did. But Jim Caldwell has to just sit there, stare down the pipe of an almost completely defeated season.

Two years before that, we were undefeated until we chose to lose. And that was his first year head coaching, I think. Yeah, and that's what made me say it. I mean, granted, he had Peyton Manning. Now that's what everybody would say. He had Peyton Manning. He had Peyton Manning. But then he goes up to Detroit.

He wins in Detroit. And they're like, not good enough. Get him out. Get him out. It's like, come on. Come on. But circumstance, new regime in Indy. Detroit're like, not good enough. Get him out. Get him out. It's like, come on, come on. But circumstance, new regime in Indy. Detroit had no excuse.

No chance. And that's why Tomlin is so impressive, because Big Ben goes down, and they could easily turn and be like, all right, hey, let's go 2-14 and get the best possible player. And he's like, no, fuck that. We're going full speed ahead. Trading for Minka. Yeah, bring him in.

All right, we've seen these boys in practice, right? We're not going to be able to move the ball much. No, no way. We need to toughen up the defense. Okay, let's go trade for Minka Fitzpatrick, who's going to almost become defensive MVP, by the way, immediately upon arriving in Pittsburgh. Not that he wasn't great in Miami, but it was like that is what Tomlin does.

And him and Colbert there have been together for a long time. Congrats to Tomlin getting a new deal. and Colbert there have been together for a long time. Congrats to Tom and get a new deal. The Broncos allegedly via Woody Page, who's OG icon in the sports media world. The Broncos allegedly made the first call to the Atlanta Falcons for that fourth overall pick. So the interesting thing here is,

and we had an entire graphic for this because the Falcons, you know, there wasn't a lot of talk about them potentially moving out of there. Now, draft night might be completely different, but allegedly the Falcons were sticking around. Now Woody Page is alleging that the Broncos have already reached out and the Falcons are still there. So everybody's like, are they going to take quarterback or what are they going to do? Then maybe Kyle Pitts gets drafted top five. So that conversation led us to how many tight ends have been drafted top five in the NFL?

We did a little research. We did some math. Since 1950-something, only two tight ends have been drafted top five. So if Kyle Pitts goes at four to Atlanta, or if Lana moves and another quarterback gets drafted there, or if he goes to five and he gets drafted number five overall or whatever, Mike Ditka in 1961 was drafted top five as a tight end and riley odoms was pick number five in 1972 since then zero tight ends have gone in the top five now there have been some that have gone in the top 10 but the way people are talking about kyle pitts he might go

in top five for the falcons is since you're sticking with matt ryan out of necessity basically i mean i'm sure they love Matt Ryan down there. Listen, I understand he's a good player. Arthur Smith will be a great coach. He's a good offensive mind with Matt Ryan. But they also owe him $100 million. I'd assume that was a little bit of a difficult trade. But Jared Goff got traded.

So I guess anything could have happened. But if the Falcons stay there, you've got to assume they're going to go best player on the board. Everybody says best player on the board is Kyle Pitts pitts if he goes top five that's legendary status down there dick gun 60 riley in 70 and then nobody ever since that's insane to think about and that falcons offense you know ridley jones pitts they got hayden hearst he's a pretty good tight end like ryan i mean they might throw for 500 yards a goddamn game now todd girley is no longer um a falcon right he's a free agent he's a free agent i believe but the falcons got a lot of leverage sitting there oh yeah a lot of leverage uh there's some other shit going on

fitz magic said uh on the chris long green light yeah podcast yep well done the issue is his instagram is like joel91 or something so every time i see it pop up there's like four names here okay so it's who it is okay long chris long then it is joel91 then his green light pod and i'm like god damn i want to get it right because he does great work and i appreciate the hell out of him but there's a lot going on there on the green light pod r, Ryan Fitzmagic, absolute legendary human, talked about him texting Alex Smith after his injury. I think we have the clip here. Regrets to date.

When Alex broke his leg in that game a few years ago, I had what I thought was a similar injury. I fractured my tibia in 2014 with the Houston Texans. And so the single worst tweet or not tweet, I've never tweeted the single worst text I've ever sent out. I sent it to Alex and I said, Hey, Alex, just want to let you know, they'll fix you right up. You'll be good as new. You know, I'm out here and I don't feel any pain from, you know, my injury, you know, three years later and i don't feel any pain from you know my injury you know three years later or whatever and i sent it and felt good about it he said well mine might be a

little more complicated 17 surgeries later and the story of what he had to overcome i mean i felt like he's okay and we can laugh about that now me too what a moment there for fitz ah hey man quarterback to quarterback i appreciate what you've done uh been there done that with that thing and alex is just like throbbing in pain he's like ryan dude mine's a little bit more complicated actually talking about maybe having to amputate my legs so that legit was a worry staff infection near death too yeah i think there was a couple of those how many 17 surgeries 18 surgeries that's wild what a comeback um and then what a retirement congrats to him on a hell of a run alex smith i just ryan fitzmagic though like such a good guy like oh man i hate that for alex

yeah he's probably feeling so bad about himself right now i'm gonna let him know it's gonna be okay feels good about the text. Hey, man. Probably edited it a couple times. Invited a guest. Sends it out there. Hope you're feeling better, sport. You know, at the end. Alex is just like, I've already had four surgeries in less than 12 hours.

Things are not going good over here. Oh, my God. Fitz had to feel so absolutely terrible. People go through many changes as we get older isn't that right oh yeah for men one of the less fortunate changes is that testosterone production begins to naturally decrease in the body did you know this aj i am aware for most men it begins around the age of 30 and testosterone production declines by roughly one percent per year my god so if you live to 130 you ain't got shit left no minus 30 well if it starts around 30 this is one of those questions on a test where you know begins around 30 in the testosterone production declines by

roughly one percent per year so does it start at zero or does it start at 30? That's the thing. This is where they can get you. It's one of them damn word problems. This is one of those ones where you're like, well, wait a minute. Which, can I ask a follow-up? Anyways, I was good at those tests

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that introduces this show to the people that are voting for this potentially. So that's a lot of pressure. I need you to remember that. Okay, I will. That is noted. I will have that on my mind whenever I'm at these hoity-toity events you tell me I go to. Well, I don't tell you you go to. You tell us you go to. You go to them every

weekend. And then you tell us you go to. Well, I don't tell you you go to. You tell us you go to. You go to them every weekend. And then you tell us you go to. Every weekend, yeah. Okay. Hey, I'll be on the lookout. I'll be asking everybody at any event I'm at, hey, do you vote? Oh, be cool. Be cool.

Be cool. Jesus. Be cool, AJ. I'm just saying, like, hey, how's it going? Aaron James Hawk. What's your name? And they say something that sounds like they're potentially a part of the National Academy of Teachers,

Arts, and Sciences or whatever the hell it is, if it sounds like that, just give a little, maybe get that pinky, the deformed pinky out of there and just give a little extra squeeze. Maybe even sneak in the middle finger in the middle there and just give a little, how you doing there? How you doing? We need you to do that. Okay, and then I'll wink at him and I'll walk away and go to the next one.

The wink might be too much, depending upon if you really get in there with the little finger. You'll be fine. Don't wink. Don't be winking. You look like a weirdo. The middle finger tickle won't make it weird at all. No. It's comfortable.

He's going to get us an Emmy. Did this guy just tickle my palm with his middle finger? I like that. What show does he do? I like that. Get that guy an Emmy. What show is he going on? Joining us now.

Nope. What a good transition. Hey, if anybody knows, Anthony Gonzalez might have a couple guys up there in the academy. First question. You're right. He's heading, like spearheading some legislature that's going to change the game completely and maybe save the NCAA, to be honest. But I do believe, first question, with where we currently sit is, hey, do you know anybody

from the National Arts and Sciences of Studio Korea? What is it? What is the name? The National Academy of, that's all I got, of TV Arts and Sciences. Television Arts and Sciences. There you go. You probably know this stuff, right? Is this the academy they all talk about?

I believe the academy for this is different than the academy awards, which is just movies and whatnot. Okay, so these are two different academies. You need to start shaking a lot of hands, AJ, because we potentially need all the academies to get on our side. Who I'm going to call is, what's that guy from the admissions scandal? Oh, Singer. He knows all of them. Yeah, Singer scandal oh uh he knows all yeah singer singer singer knows all uh joining us now ladies and gentlemen a man that could potentially get us nominated for an emmy one day a man who is trying to single-handedly save the ncaa with his name

image and likeness legislature he's trying to pass a former ohio state legend indianapolis cult absolute stud of a human sitting congressman out of ohio anthony gonzalez looks good how are you gonzo i'm good these are the best intros ever thank you i would assume now we did talk about your job in the first hour and it's nice to know you and aj know each other in the same way you and i know each other so we're all kind of in this thing the same together we're talking about your job earlier whenever we first introduced that you were coming on the show hour one and we talked about how sports fans very passionate oh yeah you know what i mean bill's mafia they're jumping off rvs through tables there there's a lot of stuff going

on a lot of fan bases you know shirt, naked, potential things getting thrown on the field that are used behind closed doors and everything like that. But political fans over there, whenever your fans make their way into my timeline, the most passionate people of all time. And also, it somehow is some way this person can be very passionate about this thing, and there is an exact polar opposite view this way that is just as passionate, always going to be a stalemate. Is that your life, just figuring out how to avoid potential stalemates? Or is that just every single day in the world of politics? I don't know much

about it. It's basically every single day in the world of politics. I mean, so I spend most of my time trying to find bipartisan stuff that we can work on and places for agreement and all that sort of thing. And you can do it. But look, on the hot button issues, and you could name 10 of them, folks are very passionate. They are where they are. And most folks aren't moving. And so that leads to a lot of the problems that you see. And it's a lot of why we can't get as much done as we should.

Well, and that's the world, too. I think any time you have 50 states being governed by one body, and those 50 states have people inside of them that come from very different worlds, it's insane to think that one potential place can legislate over everybody. But I appreciate the fact that you decided to serve our country and try to make some magic happen. Let's talk about something that you're reintroducing. I don't know if it's to the floor. Is that proper?

You're reintroducing it to the floor here. This name image likeness thing for the NCAA, this is a big deal, Gonzo. This is potentially going to save the NCAA and also help the players. This feels like this would be a bipartisan thing. Are you feeling that? And what are the next steps to really make this thing happen? Yeah, so it is bipartisan, our bill is. So basically, for those following it, so we're in a bit of a chaos situation. So the state of California passed the name,

image and likeness bill. Florida and Mississippi's are coming online here in the next couple months in July. So we're going to be in a world where if you are a college athlete in Florida or Mississippi, you can market yourself, but nowhere else around the country. And so, you know, that creates an unlevel playing field. And so what we want to do is we want to extend the right to all athletes across the country. I think it's a common sense economic right. Everyone else in every other profession that I'm aware of can do this except for the college athlete. And so we'll

extend the right, we'll put up some guardrails around recruiting, make sure that you're not literally paying guys to go to whatever school. And then, you know, empower the athletes and hopefully get college football or college sports in general, I think it'll apply to everybody. Back to a place that makes sense. Because if we're in a world where every state has a different set of rules with respect to what you can do marketing-wise, it's chaos. So we're going to get out of that world. Gonzo, I'm confused where the pushback is coming from and why. I feel like this name, image, and likeness, it takes the NCAA out of it.

They don't have to worry about trying to pay every single athlete the same thing from the football players down to the crew team. Now it's just, yeah, you can say it's unfair or whatever because some guys are going to get a bunch of money and some people won't. But I feel like the NCAA, they're bailed out by this. Yeah, so they've been very supportive of what we're doing. And frankly, when we first started working on this a year and a half ago, there was a good chunk of people who didn't think we should go down this path.

I think we're kind of past that. Where we are now is what all do we put in there? So some of my colleagues want to open up what I would argue is a can of worms and go actual employment, unionization, health care, and full benefits, sort of like what you would have in the NFL via your union. And I'll just tell you flat out, I've spoken to a handful of universities, many of which are great college programs, that have said they would just stop sports. They're just not going to do that. They're not going to employ their student-athletes. And the thing that I always say is, if you go in the employment model, maybe that sounds good, but it also means you're going to fire

your student-athletes. And so if somebody's not performing, and that definitely doesn't make sense to me. And so what we're going to do is try to keep it on name, image and likeness, maybe provide some additional disclosures on various items and hopefully get it done that way. And our bill right now is the only bipartisan bill in Congress. And so hopefully that's the one that ultimately gets through in the name, image like this or just on Earth. Just in name, image and all right i thought there was potentially no listen i don't know i don't follow your world enough to really know if you would have said there is zero bipartisan support bills right now aside from this one i would have been like yeah seems like yeah sounds about right way to go way to get the first one through um we're talking to anthony

gonzalez congressman from Ohio. You said there will be some disclosures to, you know, kind of slow down recruiting or whatever. We have talked about your bill here a lot today, like three, four different conversations, and a couple things have popped up. So, like, shoe deals or anything like that, social media stuff, how do you regulate that and make sure that players can still profit off

the incredible work they've done on social media but the shoe deals that's a massive deal for the university as well that could become a little bit conflicting is it like no fortune 500 companies are allowed to get involved or how do you kind of ride those guardrails so we're trying to make sure that there's no conflicts uh admittedly that that is a sticking point uh for for some of my colleagues so you you hit on the right thing look at us hey are we congress run all right you should run pat no no no no uh very electable from what i can tell and i mean that sincerely but um so uh one of the things that that you brought up was social media. And it's interesting, when we talk about name, image, and likeness, most people think about college football or

college basketball, and they tend to think men's sports. There was a study that was just released not long ago that showed if you just look at social media followings, I want to say it was seven of the top 10 in terms of who could capitalize on name, image, and likeness were women's basketball players because they have big social media followings. And there's a lot you can do with that. And so I actually think it's an idea that's going to benefit all the student athletes no matter what you do, whether you're a high-profile athlete or you just want to teach some swim lessons or whatever it is. And so that's part of why I think it's the right move. But you did hit on some good conflicts because it's tricky. Okay, I appreciate that.

We'll get to some other conflicts potentially happening in your world before we wrap up this name image like this. So I did, I mean, I was great American history. I was pretty good. Civics? Civics? Civics was a class that I enjoyed the teacher. He was awesome.

Mr. Carpenter, I believe, was his name or something like that. He was cool. But I don't remember a lot of it. I know there's three branches. I know there's a lot of shit going on. Supreme Court is the final hammer on a lot of stuff. But when it comes to what you're doing here, so you're reintroducing this bill. Will there be a vote on this now?

Who votes on it? How do we get this thing this bill. Will there be a vote on this now? Who votes on it? How do we get this thing passed? And what's a realistic timeline on this potentially happening? Because the NCAA might need this a lot sooner than later with how there's a pop-up of money-making things happening for high schoolers now at this point and also college athletes. Yeah, so our goal is to get it done by the end of the year. I think you're right. The longer we let it play out, the worse it gets. In terms of will it see a vote, now here's something they probably didn't teach you in civics class, but it's absolutely true. Unless the Speaker of the House puts a bill on the floor or wants a bill on the floor, it will not get there. So we have to do our part to work with our colleagues on the other side of the aisle

to make sure that this is ultimately the one of the three or four that are being debated that makes it to the House floor for a vote. That's a, you know, you can imagine a bit of a frustrating process at times, but since we're the only bipartisan game in town, I hope that we can get there. Is this what you got to do? You just got to do a lot of this, huh? A lot of this, a lot of PowerPoints. A lot of that. So many handshakes. We're not doing that. We're like doing bumps. Oh yeah. I forgot.

Smart. I need you guys over there to stay alive. Are you doing decks and PowerPoints and everything like that? We're not really a decks and PowerPoints kind of a common operation. Of course. That would give us too much credit. We'd be smarter, but we don't do that stuff. Okay. Can we move along to other things as well? I hope the name image likeness thing goes on. You'll be saving a lot of lives. You're the only human I really talk to ever in my orbit that would know answers to a lot of questions I have. Perfect.

We can talk about whatever you want. It's 420. When are we getting dope legal? When are we getting that? Because there's a lot of states that have it, recreational now. It started out as a medicinal thing. It seemed like it was maybe going to be a slow rollout. I think some places got faster.

Uncle COVID came through. Shut down a lot of places economically. Is this something that we're maybe going to see the light of day here during my lifetime? Are we going to get a federal dope potentially? In your eyes, obviously. I don't want to, you can't predict everything, but does it feel like that's something that's maybe going to happen on this beautiful, monumental holiday of 420? You know, it's funny. I had no idea it was 420 until you said that. Yeah. Oh, Jesus. He's so dialedzo. He's so dialed in. Yeah. He's so dialed in. Happy 420, Gonzo. Happy 420.

As you know, it's not my thing. It is not. But having said that, so look, we actually just voted on something. I think it was last week. I voted in support that would allow for states that have legalized, that have gone down that path,

allow those businesses that are licensed to enter the financial system so today as you may or may not know it's all it's an all cash business they can't open a checking account these businesses that are licensed in states they can't open a checking account they can't go through the traditional financial sector it's really dangerous for the operators because you're walking around with all this cash and it's and it just doesn't make a whole lot of sense so what we did was we voted to legalize the idea that if you are a licensed operator in a particular state and you're following the laws of that state you can now enter the banking sector it's actually a big step that's huge huge right because that was that's federal

is because the i remember when uh colorado, the story was, oh, they made this massive amount of money. There was people traveling to Denver and Colorado from out of state. But when you got there, there was these people that had maybe AR standing at the door or whatever, because it was an all cash operation, because they were scared to put the money into the bank because the feds run the bank and they could freeze the account. And this is potentially something that maybe is an obstacle or a hoop that people no longer have to worry about if they were to legalize it. I feel like this is a massive step for you guys. Even if even if the federal government doesn't legalize it or deschedule it, it would allow them to enter the financial system. So it's basically

a carve out in the law that says no matter what happens at the federal level if at the state level it's legal you can now transact using the banking system so it is actually a big deal now that passed the house it hasn't passed the senate yet but i think it probably i think it probably will within the next two years and i could see that getting signed into law two years gon? What are we doing? Is that a lot or a little? For a long time! I might be on six different careers in two years. So you're the House? Is that what you are?

We're in the House, yes, sir. You sent it over to the Senate, and they have less or more people over there? They have fewer. Yeah, they're smaller. 100 people there, 435 where we're at. Okay, so when it gets through the 435 and gets through the hundo over there,

they just have a stack of shit they got to vote on? They can't just put this one through and be like, this makes sense, this makes our country smarter. All in favor? Aye. All right, 100 voices, yeah, let's go ahead and move on. That's not how it works at all, huh? It does on some issues.

Like, if you want to name a post office, you can probably do it that way. If you want to name a post office you can probably do it that way if you uh if you want to do something like this you're going to have hearings and and they're going to have to go through their own process we've gone through our process they're going to go through their process hey well thank you thank you for doing that two or three years hey gonzo i know the next natural question coming from somebody here on the show is about the whole alien situation we have going on. Pat loves to ask me about it. We know we see all these videos out.

How many people from your life that you maybe grew up with or friends or family text you and ask you if you have the inside track on these aliens. And if you're the, you're the one that's, that's met a few of these guys. Yeah. And when can we go to area 51? So you met real aliens.

Um, I thought you were talking about immigration. Yes. No, no, no. Go on. So we don't give a talking about immigration. Yes. God. No, no, no. God, so we don't give a fuck about that now. Listen, what we care about, by the way, come on in. The water's fine. Let's make this place awesome, but do what you got to do.

But we're talking about the Pentagon. Do you stop by over there every single day? Do you just go stop by the Pentagon and say hello? You know, they don't actually let you in like that. So when you get sworn in, you sign this thing that basically says, you know, you can see classified information now and you're not going to disclose it. So, of course, my first question was, where are the aliens? Yep. And what happened to JFK?

Yeah. You know, we got to figure this out. These are things that are on people's minds. Totally denied. Apparently that piece of paper I signed meant nothing. They will not tell me anything about the aliens or JFK. So I'm just going to have to, you know, like you, just see what happens. How long you been around over there?

How many years you been over there? It's my third year. Oh, at what point you think they let you into like the uh the alien information act i don't know i think you got to become president but you know if you remember like well so need you need you to do that okay need you so the pentagon confirms ufos during coven it was like oh that's interesting like nobody cared because we were losing our minds over everything else we we lost speaking of covid um and everything that has happened your world has been insane i assume this is gonna go down as now i didn't live during the great depression or uh obviously either of the

world wars and i have nothing but respect for the people that had to battle through that but the entire world stopped everything was relying upon protocols and science allegedly from this doctor and on the complete opposite side another doctor disagrees completely with what this doctor said over there with that whole dealing of that thing you could have never guessed that was what you were signing up for and how did you go through day to day it had to be fucking miserable over there you know so obviously it was tragic for the country and for the entire world um and so you know what what we always said with covid because things were happening so quickly and the information was changing every day what i told my staff is you got to understand

we're living we need to be able to see three or four days into the future, just long enough so we can prepare our constituents, because it was jarring for people. And not just economically, but everything that you know and love gets shut down overnight, essentially. And so we just focused on trying to provide help for our district and making sure that, you know, the financial supports were there, that we got the health system up and running. It was very, very intense. They were long nights. But, you know, ultimately, I don't think any of us thought we'd be here a year plus later still dealing with this. I know I didn't. I thought this would be about a six month deal. But, you know, the good news is there is light at the end of the tunnel. And I think folks,

at least in my district, folks are completely ready to get back and get back to living life. Yeah, I think everybody is at this point now. Not everybody. Obviously, there's still people my district folks are completely ready to get back and get back to living life yeah i think everybody is at this point now not everybody obviously there's still people that are not everybody yeah obviously there's some people still that are you know optim cautiously pessimistic about everything which by the way have to have those people on earth as well completely understand and the world shuts down never before seen and coming back out of that obviously is going to be something where there's no blueprint on how you do this entire thing. There's been some testy times, though.

I mean, even as somebody that is a sports stooge, there has been some real testy times for this entire thing. I was, hey, we were legitimately worried about you whenever it seemed like there was potential shit popping off over there. Happy to hear you're okay, pal. Thank you. Yeah, no, if you're referring to pal. Thank you. Yeah, no. If you're referring to the January 6th, yeah, those were scary nights. I mean, I was locked in this office for six hours with the lights off. And, you know, they basically said they were ringing alarms.

And if you were on the house floor, they were trying to evacuate you. I had happened to be walking back to my office. Barricade the door. Turn off all all your lights don't make any noise and you know just wait for the chaos to end uh and so you put one of those helmets on behind you did you put one of those helmets on put the old ohio state helmet on might have to earn another buck guy today i'll tell you what i did i actually so i changed out of this suit i put on some jeans and some running shoes and i thought well if they come in, and I thought, well, if they come in, and I got two doors, I said, if they come in, hopefully they'll think I'm here with them or something,

and if not, I'll just sprint like crazy down the hallway. I'm still fast enough, so hopefully they can't catch me. I've only been here three years. They don't know I exist. Let me put on some jeans. Let me get out of here. Who was with you? I had a statement prior telling folks what I was going to do.

So I knew that the folks who were starting from the Capitol, they weren't going to be particularly happy with me. So I, you know, you do whatever you got to do to stay safe. But, you know, in all honesty, I mean, not to go into a darker place, but, look, it's reflective of a lot of what's broken in the country. It's reflective of a lot of the anger and the vitriol. And frankly, I think a factor has been the lockdown and people have been locked inside on their computers, playing around on social media, which is a cesspool in many instances.

And so, you know, we've got to build back out of that. We can't let that happen again. That was a national embarrassment. And we were very close to losing a lot of lives. There was a Viking that was the Speaker of the House for 15, 20 minutes. I don't know if you saw. He didn't say anything, but I just saw a photo or two. I'm happy you're okay.

We're all very pumped up about that. AJ, sorry about that. Six hours gone. Was anyone else in there with you? And I guess if you're barricaded with the lights off, are you checking your phone to see what's going on? And could you hear people? Were they right outside your door? Yeah, so I was checking on Twitter to see what was happening.

And that's one of the reasons I left the house floor. So I was there. I was so upset with what was going on that I left as the objections were happening. And I was seeing it on my phone, and I thought, man, these folks are about to breach. I mean, you could just folks are about to breach. I mean, you could just tell based on what was happening. And I looked out one of the windows and you could see it. So you guys didn't, so there was no, like going into that day,

there was no like, hey, there's a chance that the Capitol is going to get stormed. You don't think there was any pre-briefing of that or was there? A little, nobody thought that. But I mean, I'll tell you i knew something was wrong when they said hey get in early because you know we don't know what kind of demonstrations there's going to be and i thought okay so early to me means like 5 a.m so i wake up at 4 30 i start driving in and the roads are packed with buses of people coming in for the event and i mean packed more so than they are in normal traffic hours. And there were already people all over the Capitol Mall. And I thought to myself, okay, this isn't normal. I mean, I've been in D.C. for some protests, and I've been in D.C. for some

hairy situations, but this is totally different from anything I've seen. And then on top of that, one of the members of Congress was walking across the street from their office to the House floor ahead of the vote. And some guy handed him a flyer that basically said, you know, armed militias are meeting in this particular area. You know, bring your weapons. We're going to be storming the Capitol. That's definitely not normal. And so you start seeing all these signs. And, you know, the reality is what people believed, which wasn't true about the election. You know, you can't, my view, in a democracy, you can't tell people that an election has been stolen and is completely illegitimate and expect people to just go about their day as if there's no problem.

I mean, that's exactly what we started this with. Like, you know, the politics world and i don't i stay out of it i'm very thankful you get into it because you know you can kind of learn us up on this entire thing whenever it happens but the fans of politics are very very passionate and it's like it seemed like this is just from an outsider's perspective watching on the internet like you did the moment that that thing happened and was called upon i was like it feels like there's gonna be some shit that's gonna pop off here like it just felt like it you know what i mean from the internet just judging the internet but obviously i don't think any of us expected the viking to take over the speaker's house for a

little bit there's no way we know yeah you're right and i you know like i said it's um i was trying to fight it the whole way up to january 6. Cause we, I sort of did see, I didn't see that coming, but, but you just know there's going to be unrest. And so we were trying to push back on a lot of the lies about the election, um, and try to at least tell people the truth. Uh, but, um, we could not break through. Uh, and that was frustrating because to your point, you know, you just saw it building, you could feel it building. And then that day, especially. Gonzo, how do you guys deal with how do you deal with the misinformation of the world right now? Like, you guys have to be so focused on your world, right? You have to be so focused on doing

your job, that I guess you can't automatically have a pulse of every single potential narrative that is going out about everything but is that something that you guys are potentially trying to address because you called uh social media cesspool i would assume in your particular world that your social media is accessible by the way because every once in a while your cesspool will make it into my happy i enjoy my social sports social media i have a good time but the politics one will make its way it'll kind of snake its way into my social media everyone sports, social media. I have a good time, but the politics one will make its way. It'll kind of snake its way into my social media. Everyone's around like, geez, that sounds terrible.

That's your life in this whole thing. But is there any way to potentially try to stop that? Or how do you regulate that? Is there concepts, ideas, meetings? Like, hey, we need to be more transparent with people. We need to maybe have more press briefings. But even then people think it's bullshit. Like, how do you, you're only three years into this thing. I feel like this probably been happening for centuries now at this point, but it's, it's big with the spread of social

media now, you know? Yeah, it's actually, I think it's worse now than it's ever been. So what I, my personal belief is one of the biggest or the biggest problem we have in the country is a complete collapse of truth. So if you ask people on the street, a question, a political question about what's happening in XYZ issue, they're going to tell you completely different realities. And it's because we're in completely different social media silos. Our media environment is polarized. There's no real incentive to tell the truth. It's much easier. And frankly, as a politician, you can raise a lot more money if you're just making people angry all day. So I choose to do it a different way. How do you fix

it? You know, I'm pessimistic that there's legislation. Here's what I'll say, though. I actually think it's incumbent upon every single person in the country to take responsibility for this on their own. If we all agree it's a problem, don't let it be a problem for you. So, you know, for me, I'm not really on social media. We have official accounts, but one of our rules with our office is we're just going to tell people the truth. They might not like the truth, but we're just going to tell people the truth. Ah, Gonzo, we had an entire thing earlier about people that have teams

that run their Twitter. I mean, you're a – I think he's okay to have a team. He's a congressman. He's a congressman he's a congress he's a representative yeah politics okay sorry i had to clear that up for people that are watching our show but i do like your call for everybody to kind of buy in and find out what the actual truth is because man nowadays with how quick things can go i mean it never i don't know how you guys will combat it, Gonzo. And I'll say that there's some trusted

like news publications. So I personally- The Emmys? The local papers. The local papers are pretty good. They're not going to mislead you too much because they're, you know, most of the time you live down the street

from one of them. And then I think the Wall Street Journal does a good job. But beyond that, it's really hard to find stuff that's factual. The boys have some questions for you. I assume you have a lot going on. Are you cool for a couple more minutes?

Until somebody opens the door over there and hauls me out of here, I'm good with you. Well, let's hope that nobody opens that door. No, no, no. Not like that. My staff. Oh. Okay. We got meetings.

Yeah, got it. Got the whole thing. We got another probably five, ten minutes. Whatever you want. I forget what I was going to ask. Connor, what do you meetings. Yeah, got it. Got the whole thing. We got another probably five, ten minutes, whatever you want. I forget what I was going to ask, Connor. What do you have? Yeah, Congressman Gonzalez, there's been a lot of talk about full stadiums in the NFL, and obviously the Texas Rangers already did it.

In your circle, is that something that is a conversation, or is it just like, hey, this is happening, we're just going to have to let it go? Yeah, I personally don't think we should be getting too involved in that. I would like for the leagues and the cities and, you know, the people closest to the decisions to make those choices as to what's best for their communities. Personally, you know, like I've been vaccinated.

I know a lot of people. I think it's about half of the adults in the country have. I'd love nothing more than to go to a. Hey, so I'm not going to die. If I get a vaccine, i'm not gonna die if i get a vaccine i'm not gonna die the people you're you the people you've talked to say no i didn't die i mean no i look at all honest years just like the uh you know in all seriousness the vaccines are incredibly safe i mean there haven't been really there have been no deaths from a vaccine. Now you're, you probably get some side effects, but you know,

like my arm hurt for a couple of days, but that was about it. Some people, you know, you might feel ill for a day or two, but you know, if the alternative is COVID I'll take the vaccine and deal with a side effect over getting COVID and potentially going into the hospital or whatever it is. Well, and also not being able to go to the game. That's right. Because I like to watch the boys play. Ty, what do you have?

Gonzo, you alluded to it earlier, and I think you've talked about it on this show before, but what the hell's going on? When are you going to run for president? Is that something you would even want to do? Because, I mean, based on the conversations we've had with you in the past, I mean, you're the perfect candidate. Yep. I'm good for this demographic, I guess. No, I mean, based on the conversations we've had with you in the past, I mean, you're the perfect candidate. Yep. I'm good for this demographic, I guess.

No, I don't know. Honestly, I don't want to do that. I don't think it would be very good for my family. The thing I say about this job, look, it's the honor of a life. I get to wake up every morning thinking about how to make the country better, and it's an incredible opportunity, and I take it seriously. It is very difficult on families, especially young families. So we have two young kids. It's just tough.

It's tough being in the public eye, but it's also difficult from a travel standpoint. So I don't know that I'd want to be president, to be honest, but I appreciate the sentiment. Maybe if the folks on the Facebook page or whatever, YouTube or whatever we're on, call for it. Maybe we'll do it. What are you, a 95-year-old man? Figure it out. Just figure it out. All right?

We actually said this. AJ said this earlier, that when you walked on the campus at Ohio State as an 18-year-old, you were somehow the most mature, most intelligent, most incredibly weird person he's ever met in his entire life. You have these traits that, like, after meeting you and hanging around you, and then now once you decide to get into politics, everybody that's probably ever been around you has been like, oh, he's the perfect guy for that. You legitimately are.

The fact that you have no idea what's going on in our world even amplifies that even more, I think. So I do appreciate your work and your effort for everything, and I hope you maybe change some things over there to make the world a better place. We appreciate the hell out of you, Gonzo. Thanks, brother. We'll keep working on it.

You all enjoy the show and keep telling the truth, and we'll figure it out. It's a great country. We'll figure it out. We're just going through some weird stuff right now. Okay, before we let you go, do you know anybody at the National Academy of Television Arts and Sciences? National Academy? I'm sure I do.

Here we go. What are we trying to get done here? We just want to be nominated for one. We want to nominate. SportsMD has announced the nominations today and there's probably four to five different categories we could have got nominated for. We're nominated for not Zito. What do you have?

Always ask for a bill passing, but after this, okay, okay. We got a bill that we would like passing. We would also like an introduction into the sports Emmys people. If you could just kind of put it into your schedule or whatever. What do you have Zito? Can we pass a bill in Ohio for no more two foot drivers? No more two-foot drivers.

As in like the club, like our golf thing? No, no, no. What we're talking about is when you're driving your car around Ohio, we learned very recently that Ohio is the most dangerous state in the union to drive in because a lot of the drivers are using their right foot for the gas and the left foot for the brake it's a normal thing can we can we rule that out or can you put some legislation in for that to be banned that sounds like a state level issue but uh very dangerous if you're trying to drive your car like a go-kart yeah is that right is that right like stooges only right so you'd say just absolutely see why you can't say that because they might have to

vote for you i'll say it gonzo just said that only stooges drive like yes aj a constituent of ohio do you have anything to say in return to congressman anthony gonzalez i respect i respect gonzo's opinion on that i understand he's much smarter than me, much more intelligent, but I'm going to continue with my two-foot drive. Okay. Yeah, he's the face. Yeah. He's the face of it over there. He sent me up there. You didn't tell me that AJ was the one doing this. None of us would have guessed that AJ would be that guy. None of

us would have guessed, Gonzo. It's not your fault. Another state thing that maybe you can help. Can we get Ohio into a Fandle mobile sports gambling? Who do we have to talk to about that? So they're working on it. There's politics. There's a debate as to who should govern it,

whether it should be the Lottery Commission or the Gaming Commission. I won't weigh into that, but as soon as they figure that out, we'll have it. So that conversation is happening, though, you're saying? Yeah, Ohio's going to get it done. It's just a matter of when. Good news! I don't know if you ever get to deliver that in the world you live in. We can't thank you enough. Ladies and gentlemen, Anthony Gonzalez.

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No, I can't because I'm in Indiana. You know what I mean? That's a shame. Yeah. You know, I have had my vitamins, though. I have. i have had my vitamins though i have i have had my vitamins today but since i'm in indiana and it sounds like there's a potential governor's uh helicopter about to land on our studio right now i am not partaking i wish i could one day ohio i think don't you guys have medicinal over there or no yeah it's medicinal here what is it in indianapolis nothing a band yeah 25 to launch. The full state, not just Indianapolis.

I apologize to the rest of the state. Well, the whole state wishes they weren't associated with that. I mean, there's something. You know, sports gambling came through pretty quick, but just a few years ago you couldn't buy beer on Sunday. So I'm going to assume that marijuana is going to be a slow roll, even though Illinois, Michigan, Ohio, Kentucky, I mean, it is starting to become, you know, a little bit surrounding us.

You come out with your hands on your head, Indiana, you are surrounded by weed at this particular time. So maybe that will expedite through this entire COVID process, but we are currently not able to celebrate 420, but we hope everybody else does. You know, that wants. Do it responsibly. Do it responsibly because we don't want to hear it. AJ, did you get a chance to hear Jameis Winston's

new pump-up speech? Did you hear this thing? He has taken massive leaps and bounds since the Eaton Dubs. Now, Dak Prescott's right next to him, as Todd pointed out, has had to come back from a scientific miracle, basically, to be walking again, and that probably took a lot of work. Jameis is working harder. I think Jameis is showing real signs of, like, hey, going to be walking again, and that probably took a lot of work.

Jameis is working harder. I think Jameis is showing real signs of like, hey, going to be a guy, AJ. I mean, this is definitely better than his Eaton Dubs speech. Everyone can agree to that. But I think I saw the part where Ty even said like the best part is at the end when he talks about how like, yeah, he knows Dak is there, but it doesn't matter, man. I'm grinding harder than anybody else on the planet. It doesn't matter who you are.

I wish every starting quarterback in the NFL was there. He would go down the line and give reasons. I know Dak's here. Hey, scientific miracle. Dak's not even supposed to be walking right now. He's probably had to do a bunch of rehab. It doesn't fucking matter. Okay, excuse me.

Aaron Rodgers hosting Jeopardy. This guy's hosting Jeopardy. What do you think I'm doing? I'm dodging balls. I'm dodging balls, dude. I'm running on my heels. I'm doing this all day. I'm bear crawling.

Remember the bear crawling that came out? Oh, yeah. The boxing that came out? Oh, yeah. Jameis is nonstop. He's not hosting Jeopardy. No. Tom Brady.

I know you're 45. Oh, he's playing catcher. David Beckham getting picked off, by the way, by David Beckham. I'm working. I ain't on no beach. I love it. And to be fair, people that I know that have been around Jameis have said, like, guy works his ass off.

That's all he does is just work, work, work all day. I appreciate it. The Saints are hoping that it pays off, unlike, you know, potential outcomes in Tampa Bay, even though he threw for a lot of yards. He couldn't see a damn thing. How hard do you think it would be to be a blind quarterback? I don't think that we've had one yet at least in the nfl okay uh well james led the nfl in passing yeah blind got lasik immediately following that season let's assume he's only going to get better i believe uh two megastars in this super league that is the NFL are currently maybe going back and forth on the

internet. A Kansas City Royals baseball player, sometimes words speak louder than actions, and they showed a video of somebody wearing a Tom Brady jersey, and then he's a Royals player who screams back, Patrick Mahomes is the best or something. And a Kansas City Royals, part owned by Patrick Mahomes, said, you know, sometimes Kansas City Royals. Part owned by Patrick Mahomes said, you know, sometimes words speak louder than actions. And then Tom Brady goes, nah, I think actions always speak louder than words. Oh, it's getting deep.

And then Patrick Mahomes, did he respond? I guess we will see in 20 years. What an answer! What an answer! What an answer! That is just a walk, walk. You see me in two decades, pal. Now, to be completely clear,

that's good internet. Yeah. Both parties there, by the way. Both parties. Tom Brady's been doing good internet for a long time now. Tom Brady is good internet. Patrick Mahomes, good internet here. This is good.

Kansas City Royals, by the way, even playing a little bit of the game, good internet in this entire thing. With that being said, this is just like the LeBron Jordan conversation. LeBron's in the middle of his career. Is he going to be the greatest whenever he's done? When's he going to be done? Five years from now?

Do we have any idea when he's going to be done? He might win 17 more championships. We have no idea. So the conversation about who's the greatest of all time, guy's still playing. Can we just appreciate it and then judge when it's all said and done? Patrick Mahomes is going to be compared to Tom Brady every single year of his career,

and it's going to be impossible to try to catch. And if he does, that conversation will then turn to who's the next person that's going to potentially be. It's like, can we just enjoy this and then judge it later not whenever they're talking shit to each other no way i guess we gotta judge it i guess we have to age it hey who is so who was the player on the royals wearing the tom brady jersey i'm guessing did he lose a bet with somebody i would assume something like that or maybe i don't know why that's what i'm just thinking like marketing wise for the royals i feel like it's a good job in marketing like not just do things to get people talking about your team?

Hey, Patrick Mahomes is one of our owners. All right, let's come out and just go ahead and talk shit about Tom Brady. Patrick doesn't know we're doing this, but we're going to put him to a little bit of a firestorm. Tom Brady will come out and do perfect internet, which is what Tom Brady does. And then Patrick Mahomes responds. It's just – that's a beautiful thing.

I like that a lot. But they are stirring the narrative that we're going to have to judge him forever. And I think Patrick Mahomes realizes that that's how it's going to go. It's Salvador Perez. Okay, he's a good ball player. Here we go, Sal. He lost a bet. He was not happy wearing that thing. He had the name taped up before. Oh, the Brady?

Yeah, and then some guy on the Royals came and ripped it off. And he said, no, no, no. Patrick Mahomes is the best. He's his boss, too. Smart move by that guy. He had a bet with Maverick Phillips. Great name. Wow. Good for baseball

for us to learn that that guy exists. By the way, Maverick Phillips and Salvatore Perez had a bet where I assumed the loser would have to wear one or the other. He's not happy. He says that his boss is actually the best. Good internet moment happens afterwards i like it happy 420 to everybody you think yet no no you think either of those guys

did the tweet patrick or tom oh digs come on i mean tom's definitely got a team tom's i think patrick i think it's pretty safe to say that patrick does his own i think so i mean honestly i don't i think obviously tom has a team that puts stuff out, but this could have been Tom. It might not have been an assistant or somebody running his marketing crew. All right, nine minutes and an hour or two. It's 420. There ain't really much to talk about.

Let's get into this. How do we feel about people that have people run their entire Twitter accounts? I don't appreciate it at all. I think it's maybe the dumbest thing of all time. And I guess it works for some people, but that's, are you, are you, is it really working then? It's not really, what are you saying? Are you saying you don't like when somebody has someone else run their account, but poses as them? Some people say like, and there's some celebrities that have said stupid things like, Hey, I turned my Twitter over to my team and it's not me now. And it's strictly promotional. Like, why would you follow that account? And what's the purpose of the

account? You might as well just have the team. Like Nick will tweet videos of me doing live things and we'll send it out there. So Nick does that. But aside from that, if it's not me tweeting, why would I ever in a million fucking years when somebody else speaking for me, I just, I don't understand why you would ever want that. That's what Twitter is supposed to be for, for you to speak for yourself. I don't know why you would want somebody else to speak for you. I've had people that tell me, you know, that they run somebody else's Twitter account. And I immediately upon hearing that I lose respect for that person. And then I hate this person. Really? Well, I like the person, obviously it's incredibly incredibly talented, but it's like you're kind of fraudulent.

I mean, there's people that believe. I don't know. It's just, I guess it's a little bit of magic. I've met somebody that runs some pretty high-profile Twitter accounts, and I think you know this person as well. I really, really enjoyed this person that runs these high-profile accounts. Okay, so the person that you and I were talking about right there, incredibly entertaining.

I was not referring to that person in my company that person is hilarious by the way and has to have like seven personalities yeah a lot of masks this person unbelievable you're right but i'm just talking about the standard slapdick you know that he's just like kind of conning people into believing that they're good at social media so let me run your whole thing i'll be the voice for you and it's like until something happens and then all of a sudden it's not you all of a sudden it's everybody else and that's why i like russell wilson to change his handle to like team three because then we know okay hey the whole team is putting these out it's not just russell wilson he's the guy he's the star but the team is part of it somebody puts a dash with the person's name if it's actually from them, from their Twitter account.

And every time I read it, I'm like, okay. Actually me. I love it. But some people are busy. AJ, you know? I'm okay if Robert De Niro, they tell him, hey, we really need a Twitter account for you to make sad Grandpa 4. We need to promote the thing if he has a team. Sad grandpa.

Younger people know. What was that called? The Intern? The Intern was good. Such a good idea, by the way. She was a hustler. They need to make a second one of those. Absolutely. I cannot believe they shut down that newspaper factory.

Damn shame. The fact that he got to go back to work and they're in the same spot. It doesn't happen. And he saved their relationship. It did, didn't it? He uncovered an affair? Yeah. He was getting cheated on.

Fucking scumbag. He's messed up. He's out there just slinging cock. Nanny's all over town. De Niro's got to deal with it on the other end. He doesn't even care. He's just out there salami for you. Salam for you

too. That's exactly how I remember that character. The younger De Niro would have fucking cut his head off. Yeah. You're making my life fucking terrible. Okay, I've got to deal with the backside of this thing. Keep your dick in your pants. That guy needed to hear that from somebody. De Niro, what else did De Niro do? He was

on those super platform shoes Because they made him look taller than four foot tall That was awesome, those photos were very fucked up Meet the Parents was like That was a good deal for him He switched to comedy a little bit Oh, it's just a game fogger Goodfellas, obviously

I've never seen that movie I've seen the The Stiller Spike It's just GameFlock. What were you saying? Goodfellas, obviously. Unbelievable. Casino.

Yeah, casino. Heat. Raging Bull. Taxi driver. You know, like for instance, Vin Diesel is Dom Toretto now. That's right. But he's made so much money, he doesn't care, right? A lot of those actors are like, I don't want to be typecasted.

I want to display my range. And then some of the guys are like, yeah, I made a movie like this once. It worked. Let's make 40 of them. Yeah. And Vinny's making music now, too. He's completely expanding his own entire repertoire. I don't know you, but it feels like I do.

Peter. Yeah. Vin Diesel's making music. Oh, yeah. You're welcome. I should add it to my Patty 420 list. Dude, show your kids. They'll love you forever.

Yeah, dude. We can't play it. Is he independent? He's probably independent. I believe he's with the Kygo record label, so I do not think he's independent at the moment. I was about to just blast that. Vin De Dom will come after me. No.

He's working about Fast 9. Exactly. He's actually made more money being Groot than Fast and the Furious. He's on racetrack records, dude. He's on racetrack records. Yeah, but he's Groot, though. He's not Vin more money being Groot than Fast and the Furious. Oh, he's on racetrack records. He's on racetrack records. Yeah, but he's Groot, though. He's not Vin Diesel. For sure, yeah.

I think it's his record label. I think Vin's got a record. Oh, so. Let it eat. Vinny. He found it. Everybody in the back is shaking their head. He founded racetrack records. Which makes sense because he's out there driving around in trucks and stuff.

Groot? What is Groot? That's from the Avengers. Marvel. That's Batista. Doesn't Batista play that? No. Vin Diesel does the Groot voice in 1,000 languages.

Okay, so real quick. Batista's Groot and Vin Diesel's Groot? Just Vin Diesel. Batista's a different character. I was about to say they have a type yeah awesome dude with the group character let's go to some phone calls batista's i mean that's his entire thing now right is he's that massive yoked up guy in that movie oh yeah they're making more too magic he's just is... He has to work out all day every day to look like that, AJ? I mean, you would think so. He's absolutely jacked.

He had an MMA fight, too, back in the day. Dom Batista. I think he's a blue belt or a black belt. I forget. I've seen videos of him walking through the Hoss Gracie jiu-jitsu. I guess whenever you get a new belt, you have to walk through everybody, and they just whip the fuck out of you.

I've seen the video, and I think it was a blue or a black belt. I'm not sure. He didn't flinch, by the way. Just walked the entire time. I'm like, what the fuck is wrong with you, dude? This guy, what happens? You just go up to a black belt, and you don't have feelings or nerves anymore? How does this even happen?

Well, I would imagine because he's not a WWE superstar anymore, he can probably just eat all the steroids he wants to, right? Oh, yeah, because they do test, by the way. They do test. Oh, so they are two different people. So that's Dom Toretto right here? Yeah. Yo, sorry, Groot. In 2018, he got his purple belt.

Wow. So could have more than that at this point. I did not know there was a purple. I should know more, I guess. What are the levels? There's a yellow. I know there's a brown out there. There's a purple, brown, and black.

That's the top three. Oh, purple is way up there? Yeah, so purple, brown, black, and then coral if you're really legit. And then stripes, right? Don't you get stripes? You get a couple of stripes on there, yeah. Shinigami was talking about meat hooks. What?

Meat hooks? Big smile. Big smile. There it is. Big smile. They were talking about big smile having a certain amount of stripes on his blue belt or whatever. I did not know purple was a good one. So, listen, you see somebody with a purple belt out there.

And, listen, don't mess with anybody anymore. Especially if they look like Dave Bautista. A purple belt, that has to be pretty lethal. When was that, 2001? 18. He's got a brown now, at least. He'll put you in an arm bar for sure. Look out.

That was Diggs' password. It was. Five years arm bar. Because he got into jujitsu for one second. Did you really? Diggs, password. It was. Not anymore. Five years arm bar because he got into jiu-jitsu for one second. Did you really? Diggs, how was it? Yeah, it was probably, what was that, 2008 when that fighting show where they made it, the Ultimate Fighter.

Ultimate Fighter. That was big. So, like, you know, fucking had to head down to the local jiu-jitsu. Just in case. Try it out. I went twice, and you had to wrestle strangers and be sweaty with strangers, and I did not enjoy that. Diggs used to just walk in there with an affliction shirt on,

fucking ready, dude. Whose arm's breaking? I did learn the arm bar, though, so that was sweet. He was like Ronda Rousey back in her day. Ronda Rousey. Wait, so you were so enthusiastic about this that your password was armbar for five years after these two jujitsu long time until zito fucking knocks on me yeah we kind of because we had to sign into something he had so it became a

very public it became a very public thing you know it was like uh i believe the thing was like digs you have anything private on this or whatever and he Diggs was like, I don't care if it's private, it's public, whatever. This was back when Diggs was very reckless with his everything, basically. Yeah, it's armbar. Yeah, what's the password? He goes, yeah, it's armbar or whatever. And everybody just, armbar? What?

It started a full conversation. He dove into that whole story. But Diggs, if he's watching something, he will transform into what he's watching. It's like a chameleon effect look he still has a cowboy hat on now from the kevin costner fucking montana thing you should have seen the madman one he was don draper or whatever every single day it comes and goes and that's why the cowboy thing has stuck around a lot longer than any of us have thought i don't think a new

season has been released anytime soon well i think mostly because of the pandemic, shows are slowly rolling back out, so I haven't had a new show to chameleon back into yet. You need to watch City of Lies. Did you watch that movie? No, I couldn't think of the name actually last night. I'm going to eventually. What, you got Dopehead? You can't remember anything over there?

It's Big Dopehead over here. It would be Big Dopehead, by the way. I assume if you put on one of them gas masks, dude, that thing would be so flat against his face. It would just be like, you would see just the... You'd have to get one of those inflatable helmets that teams run out of to actually, you know, find something big enough to go on there.

Man, what's up with you white people in these fucking masks? One of my teammates. What? What's up with you white people in these fucking masks, man? We're like, just go ahead and tighten that thing up. You're going to be good. He said, I'm not going to fucking move for, what, two, three hours? He'll be worth it.

And he goes, I guess. We'll fucking do it. That's why Laramie Tunzel, when he hit that gas mask and did not cough. Man. Now, granted, he did not clear it and everything. I mean, there's a lot of potential stipulations. I have never seen a human do what he accomplished. I have never seen in my entire life.

Draft night, his stock was dropping in my eyes. I'm like, this guy's a fucking hero. How do we get that guy on our team? I think I actually texted Chuck. Now, I don't know if it was that night or the next day, but I texted Chuck and was like, get us. Listen, that guy can run two marathons right now. He might have the best lungs of all time.

I've never seen anything like that. And I think at that point, everybody on ESPN was like, Laramie Tunsler's draft stock is tumbling after a video has surfaced that was – I'm like, that should go up draft boards with what the fuck he just accomplished. We need to get you in one of those, AJ. Maybe. I mean, I don't think it would have helped my draft stock at all, but I think I remember you tweeting. Now, not then.

Didn't you tweet that night? You made a solid case. You basically tweeted what you just said, and I started thinking. I'm like, you know what? If I'm a GM, I might have to rethink it. This guy might have jumped off my board. Listen, I'm a GM. I don't do the dope part.

I don't understand the ins and outs of this whole thing. Let's assume that, I don't know, McAfee noted dope heads. He says that he's never seen anybody do what he just did. Now we've got to judge how many people do we think McAfee has smoked around. Sounds like he said a lot, the way he talks. Alright, let's fucking pull the trigger. Yeah, get him! That was a war room?

Yeah, in the war room, that's the thing. The GM pulls everybody together and he's like, okay, so what do you guys think? And each guy is naming off players that you have played with that are really good. Oh, he's definitely smoked with this guy. What if it's one scout too? Like in the war room, you know, cause they all have to like pitch their cases.

Yeah. What if there's one scout? Like, all right, who do you got? And the person's like, name a player. Who do you got? Name a player. GM's like, who do you got? I got Larry Matanzo and, and, and, and everything I've said previously.

And listen to this tweet that I just found here, nobody's ever been able to accomplish what he just accomplished. I know we don't like the fact that he potentially has a gas mask on, but if anybody's going to put a gas mask on, he's the best to ever do it. I just thought, what if? If it happens this year and someone's like, well, what's McAfee saying about his smoking technique? Because if he says they're good, we might need to go get this guy. It is awesome.

Spoking with different cultures. It is fantastic. I feel like I've gotten a chance to do that. It is so cool. Everybody has very different strategies to go about getting to the same place, though. Everybody's trying to get to the same place. Happy 420. Let's get to some phone calls.

Let's go to Brandon in Aspen, Colorado. Every day over there in Aspen. Where the Capistrana flow Women flock like this. We're talking about Aspen. What do you want to talk about, Brandon? Man, sorry, I just had it. What's up to you guys?

AJ used to tackle a quarterback. What's up to him? Nice. He's a kind of guy. I love that song, man. That was a good one. Hey, we did as well, but the time

changed. I mean, we're going to have to get a new one, actually. We should probably get a new one. Hey, Trago, fucking get with it. All right? Trago's currently beating Colin Cancer. Yeah. Listen, when you find time, All right, Trego's currently beating colon cancer, by the way. Shout out to Trego.

Listen, when you find time, okay, in between battles, can we get another? Get back in the lap. We need 10 to 15 more seconds. We'll bring that back, Brandon. A remix version on the other side. Trego, by the way, we love you, man. Happy 420 to Trego as well. I assume he's potentially getting in there medically.

Yeah. Which science has said makes you feel better. There's a list of things that go. This gubernatorial debate that I had to listen to here in Indiana on a local television show, I could not take it anymore. When I see real scientific proof, I will then make my decision. I want to go through the TV and smack him right in the fucking mouth. Yep. Here you go.

Dumb, dumb. Who was it? Bobby Rainwater? Bobby Rainwater. You're wrong. You're wrong. You're wrong. Let me tell you why.

What do you want to talk about, Brandon? Sorry, buddy. I want to talk about those big girls up in the Minnesota Vikings. Okay. Kelvin Tomlinson and Michael Pierce. 700 pounds in the middle. Free agent.

Sue reference to the middle. Free agent. Sue reference to the big girls? Yeah, and also the... Lizzo? No, who was the other D-line? Vita Vea. Vita Vea, yeah. That was unbelievable.

She did. She's a Minnesota Viking. Yeah, okay. I understand where your brain pieced that together, but Jesus Christ, you can't do what you just did. She loves where she's at but Jesus Christ, you can't do what you just can't do. She loves where she's at right now.

You just can't do what you're doing right there. She was DMing Chris Evans the other day, and there was a whole spute about it on the internet. Well, I guess D-Tackle, this is the thinnest, that's the thinnest position in this draft, I guess, is D-Tackle. So I would have assumed that free agent D-Tackles are pretty hot in the market because the people that are supposed to scout everybody says this is a thin D-Tackle. So I would have assumed that free agent de-tackles are pretty hot in the market because the people that are supposed to scout everybody says this is a thin de-tackle market.

That's going to probably continue, I would assume, that trend. The de-tackle position might be a tough one to find going forward with the change of football. Do you think? Yeah, I mean, with how spread out everything is. If you're a young kid and you're thinking about what position you may play, wouldn't you want to get on the outside and rush the passer? You know that's where the glory is.

You know that's where all the money is. So unless you're just a gigantic kid, you're probably going to try to at least play outside first. I would assume. So the D tackles, by the way, you ever get a chance to talk to D tackles, they are the most entertaining people you've ever been around. The D line room in general, if you go into a football facility and you get a chance somehow you become a bazillionaire and you're like you know what i

want to be entertained i just got in here and it's meeting time just go ahead and pop a squat right into the d-line room there is something electric that's going to pop off either whether it's in film a serious time a non-serious time a big moment a non-big moment some d-lineman is the most hilarious person you have ever seen in your entire life. Might be a position that gets tough to find as we go along. But if you're smart and you and are a big boy and you know that everyone else

is going out to the edge, you stay in the middle and you get paid like Leonard Williams did, $22 million a year. Leonard Williams got paid. Sue just got what, a $10 million deal, up to $10 million. He's gotten paid over $100 million. Shout out to the Dolphins paying him. Who was the guy beforehand that went to Washington? Albert Hainsworth.

He was the guy there for a while. He used to just pick up offense alignment and just throw it. And stomp it on faces. Don't forget Casey Hampton, big snacks. Oh, Casey Hampton was the best. He used to show up to camp every year at least 15 to 20 over. And it was a big story every year. It did not appear as if he lost

any weight and he was starting every game vince will fork also you know legend showing up pretty big what he started swimming he started getting swimming i guess so he hit donald brown one time so hard i thought donald was dead i thought donald brown was dead donald it was and i think donald would even say like that was the worst moment of my life. He got through. I think he thought he was getting through the hole. By the way, Donald Brown was a good running back there for a while, both at Connecticut and for Indy. I don't remember necessarily what happened.

I really don't. But he squirted through the hole or whatever, and it was just a – he went sideways. I've never seen anything like it. It was like, oh, that's Vince Wolfrick. And that was whenever he was up there with Robert Kraft and they were like best friends. Oh yeah, kissing. Yeah, he was the man.

I guess Aaron Donald's a D-tackle. Okay, so if you can be Aaron Donald, I guess. Good luck. He heard what you said, like all the money's going outside. He was like, I'm going to be built like an outside guy, but I'm going to play in here. I'm just going to be stronger than everybody. He was awesome. I mean, Aaron Donald can play wherever he wants, but there's only, there's very, very few Aaron Donalds

to ever come through the NFL. I think a guy with his speed and athleticism, how powerful he is. Yeah, you just got to hope that Pittsburgh creates another one. Yeah. That's just what you got to hope. You know they will. They will. It's just when is that time going to be?

When's the next Aaron Donald come through? Well, this is what Pittsburgh does, by the way. Pittsburgh just creates that type of thing. You know what I mean? Maybe Pittsburgh will keep a couple positions alive. Ooh. You know what I mean? Maybe Pittsburgh will keep a couple positions alive. Ooh. You know what I mean? Fullback.

Fullback, D-tackle. Fullback, D-tackle. Probably guard. We'll probably have some guards. I mean, AQ just retired, so the center position, we need to go ahead and have a little representative out there. And they can just bring in J.J. Watt in a couple years, maybe, too, and have him just move inside and outside with his brother.

All right, let's go. Hey, is that normal, or does or does jj get special privileges there every time i see him mic'd up i hear the conversation go where he's like hey i want to beat the shit out of 71 today and he tells the rest of d-line like all right i'm gonna line up over here he's like testing is that aaron donald i think does the same thing where he'll start somewhere from his film study and then it's like ah this isn't going how I thought it was. I'm going to go over here and ruin this person's life. And if it works out well, this is where I'm going to stay the entire time. Is that kind of how it is for skilled pass rushers all across the board?

Yeah, it's definitely somewhat common. They'll usually have a plan going into the week, whether, you know, if it's you're an outside guy or inside. They'll have a plan on where you're going to rush, how you're going to rush. But yeah, throughout the game, I think guys like JJ will have a lot more freedom to move around as much as he wants. Usually, guys will come

and they'll talk after the series with the D-line coach and D-line coach and all of them get together. Hey, man, it's not going great. You move to the shade. You go to three technique on the other side. What's shade mean? What's shade mean? If you had an offensive line, center guard tackle, you know how it's numbered?

Inside shade of the guard is a one, head up, two, three on the outside. You always hear three technique? Yeah. Even right, odd left. No. Same number as both sides. This isn't, that's offense when you're in like third grade. Got it, got it. Like 24.

That's what they teach you. Yeah. A zero technique would be head up on Like 24. 46. That's what they teach you. I'd go 35. Yeah. A zero technique would be head up on the center. So a shade is just shaded left or right, one side. Oh, okay. Sounds good. If you could play a D-line, where would you want to play?

I probably would not want to be the shade. I'd want to be a nice wide three technique so you could pass rush a little bit. Yeah, you can eat a little guard maybe into a tackle, kind of go into that game. Yeah, of course. They always want to be wide. They – like D-linemen, they want to be in a wide three too. If you're in a passing situation, we would call it in Green Bay,

jet just means like they can get wide and they get to rush the passer and they don't have to worry about being a shade or a one or a three or whatever. Yeah, you got to watch when you're playing Tom Brady though because he'll see those wide spread out three techniques and he'll go right up the gut for eight, nine yards at a time, stumbling the entire time. It's unbelievable. Super intelligent move, by the way.

Hey, next hour we're talking to Anthony Gonzalez. You know him? Yep, I played football with Anthony Gonzalez. Hey, me too. Hey. I went to, yeah, I went to one of his little, one of his speeches when he was running for Congress.

How'd he do? Was it as good as Jameis? Yeah. Gonzo is awesome. You know him. He is such a uniquely intelligent, weird, mature person. He was that way 18 years old when he walked on the campus at Ohio State. I agree.

Completely couldn't describe him any better. So incredibly smart. Relatable still somehow because he had to be in a locker room and got along with a lot of people. Has had incredible experiences. Now he's got like, I think, four or five degrees at this point. It's like, oh, this guy was created to be the president of the United States of America. Okay, good for him, man. Hey, my name is Pat. I punt balls around here. Hey, my name's Pat. I punt balls around here. His grandparents escaped Cuba like at the last minute from Castro. I can't wait to talk. His dad started a great business too. His dad's very successful.

I can't wait to talk to him, man. Cannot wait to chat. This name, image, likeness thing might be a necessity for NCAA to survive. I agree completely. I want to ask him. I feel like this takes all the pressure off of the schools and the NCAA because the players will be getting paid, but they're getting paid by, you know, sponsorship deals from outside businesses like car dealerships or autograph places that

own memorabilia stores, stuff like that. Now, people are going to hate it, right, because they hate change and people are going to say, well, this is unfair for the Ohio States of the world because there's a lot of boosters and a lot of money involved. It's like Ohio State's on national TV every fucking week. Is that fair for everybody else? Can we just act like the reality of this whole thing is that it's not fair? It's not fair. Hey, I don't know how to say it. Alabama getting a 30 for 30 basically and a a follow along with Nick Saban where I get to see the human side of him on his boat and at his house in their facilities and I don't see that at West Virginia I don't see Neil Brown's house right over there I don't I don't

say it's just not hey there's things that are different things aren't fair like that's just how it goes it isn't fair now it won't be fair whenever money gets introduced but I think it just is going to be a necessity at some point because there's going to be options for all these guys and girls. There's going to be options for leagues and for other things to make money. Content creation. I mean, trick shot people are making massive amounts of money. I just, it's going to have to adapt.

And maybe Anthony Gonzalez is helping the NCAA more than they probably are even realizing right now. Well, especially when you look at like the bonuses, bonuses even for these coaches when they get to the college football playoff or the national championship. It's like, hey, let's share the wealth a little bit here, okay? Let's get some money around. Now, that money will not go to the players. No way.

And the schools always say, we don't make any money, man. Is that right? We're a non-profit. Really? We don't make any. Look at the books. Look at the books. They're actually in the red. Oh, man. Is that right? We don't make... We're a non-profit. Really? We don't make any... Look at the books. Look at the books. Man. We're actually in the red. Oh, yeah. Now, I don't know if you did see here, we just built

this $760 million facility right now. Oh, that's beautiful. Yeah, yeah. They're actually doing research right now, trying to find another COVID vaccination. How'd you build that? With what money? No, no. Well, the conference we're in. Oh, okay.

The TV deal. Oh, you guys get money for that? The stadium tickets. Oh. And then the beers and the food and the merch sale and the tuitions of everybody that's been hiked up 35% for no reason at all. Okay. So yeah, and also, we're not making any money.

But if you look right over here, I don't know if you got a chance to see this on your way in, fucking gold-plated statue. Wow! That looks awesome! Yeah, it cost us $20,000, $25,000, no big deal. Had to add it late into the year. Had to add it late into the year, right before April closed. You know what I mean? Had to add it in there, because the books were, you know, we were potentially going to make

money, but no. Had to have this statue, though. It's a recruiting tool, and it's a symbol of everything we stand for. We make no money, though. We make no money though we make no money hey jerry who who are you uh in this story who are you the person that i like the part of it where they say they had to have a 25 million dollar statue of themselves well i haven't seen that exactly but i did see the west virginia campus from my freshman year to my senior year to what it is now after we win four straight bowl games probably should have won a bigger game I get it but just the success national tv the big east growing from basically everything like that the number of people that went to our school

because we were on national tv every single week plus we were a good time I mean I saw that campus completely completely flip around just one a full 180 on everything. Classes were getting better. Everything was getting better. The stadium got built up. The facility gets built up and everything like this. And Pat White, Steve Slayton, Owen Schmidt, Darius Renaud, and them are just sitting there like, oh, you're welcome.

This is nice. You're welcome for all this. I mean, we don't even get a chance to experience a new locker room because it's in construction, but hopefully the next class will very much enjoy this. I'm sure they'll win. I'm sure they'll win, but made no money, made no money. Well, if you go to any campus of any school that's doing well,

particularly in football, you're going to see a lot of cranes and a lot of construction sites. They're going to be building stuff at all times. You have to do it to keep up. Well, not to keep up, but also to not make any money. Yeah. Yeah, of course yeah yeah you know can't have surplus no you got to keep up to recruit that's what they say oh we

got to keep up for recruiting but also on the back end we very heavily say we make no money so we can't make any money oh you want a new basketball you got it hey sure hey fucking get a soccer stadium right over there fucking build build it for them. Right now. You know what? The rifle team at West Virginia, they deserve their own gun. By the way, they legitimately do. The West Virginia rifle team might be the most impressive group of humans walking around that West Virginia campus. They're snipers with this thing.

Let's build them their entire fucking gun range. Awesome. When I was at Iowa, you work for the college of giving or whatever, and people would call in, and you'd be asking about money for the general scholarship fund, and they'd be like, yeah, fuck that. I'm not giving anything for that. And you'd be like, well, but the football team. They'd be like, okay, yeah, sounds good.

What do you want me to do? Write a check out? Check work? Do I get a gym? Yeah. Do I get my name on a wall? Maybe a statue. Was that Alabama that did the whole facility?

It was like $60-something million? We were in Michigan. Michigan had like a $400 million. Also, the same thing happened at Michigan State. They won the Rose Bowl, Cotton Bowl, made the playoff, and now that campus is completely new. Yeah, but they made no money. And now they stink, too.

They made no money. I was thinking about the LSU graphic that got released from their 2018 profits. It was like the football team made $60 million, and then every other sport they had was in the red that's just what they're reporting by the way and i believe though that there is a very very important role in a lot of the sports that don't garner as much cash i i 100 believe in that that's why i'm not 100 sure that the schools will ever be able to play or pay the money generating sports players like i don't know how they're ever going to be able to figure that out there's going to be a natural

thing but the name image likeness thing it's like i've always thought it's literally always i should be able to sign my name and make money if somebody wants to pay me to sign my name i should be able to make money like i understand you guys have helped me and made more people know me or whatever but i still own this and this goes goes, let's take it out of your hands. You don't have to pay us. Just let us do our own thing. It's going to get obviously fraudulent somehow, but I think it's a good step.

I think it's going to happen. I think there's enough momentum now where it should happen, and you're right. I think it takes it out of the NCAA's hands. They don't have to worry about it nearly as much when they don't have to come up with the money to figure out, hey, I've got to pay the starting quarterback of the football team this, and I've got to pay someone

who is seventh string on the crew team the same amount. Yeah, because then you've got favoritism and blah, blah, blah, and you've got to deal with all that. In those sports, I want to let you know, very cool, very important in this whole thing. I'm not against those sports.

Who is? there are people that say, like, well, they don't make any money. This is the way the world is. They don't make money. Like, hey, you want to do it? Just start making money then. I don't agree with that sentiment. I think that, you know, if you have a platform, you should be able to potentially help others out.

The name image likeness thing, though, is just the quickest way to kind of cut that a lot so do you think guys will be able to shine sign shoe deals under this or is that completely different so fascinating see foxy that is what's going to happen it's going to just wait till helca gets involved because universities have deals with those companies already don't they you won't be able to there'll be something in the they'll They'll have some kind of deal where there's no way, like, you're a Nike team, you can't sign a deal with Under Armour. Yeah, they'll probably have some.

If it's a Fortune 500 company you cannot have a deal with, they'll have some limit. Can't promote alcohol, can't promote weed companies, stuff like that. They have to have those kind of... So it's all jersey sales? And autographs and stuff like that. Jerseys, autographs, appearances, merch. could they use their socials socials yeah it's a lot of money

potentially for some people like that ucf kicker who had the youtube was that donald legale yeah destroying he's a freak athlete yeah he's very athletic i can't wait to say hi to him. I sent a message to him before the announcement of SmackDown. I said, hey, are you ever in Tampa? And he was like, yeah, all the time. What's going on? And I was like, I actually can't fucking tell him. I want to meet him. I want to talk to him.

I can't wait to meet him in person. I'm a big fan of his. All right, that's the show. Told you it was going to be an average one. Maybe above average. I hope you enjoyed the hell out of this 420 spectacular we had. If you did like it, please be a friend, tell a friend. If not, just act like it never, ever happened.

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