The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 403 - Teddy Bridgewater Trade, Nick Mangold, AJ Hawk

Episode Date: April 28, 2021

Today's show opens up with Pat breaking some news regarding the second annual Draft Spectacular which will be going live tomorrow on YouTube.com/ThePatMcAfeeShow at 7:30 PM Eastern. Then the conversation shifts to the latest NFL news including the signing of Tampa Bay Buccaneers receiver Antonio Brown. Pat and the boys discuss Tampa Bay re-signing all 22 of their starters and other key pieces to their Super Bowl championship. Next Pat welcome on Ohio State legends AJ Hawk and Nick Mangold to discuss what it is like playing under the umbrella of New York City media and what to expect from Zach Wilson. Nick gets back to his golf game while AJ stays along side Pat and the boys to discuss the latest news regarding the NFL Draft. Some breaking news popped off as the Carolina Panthers trade quarterback Teddy Bridgewater to the Denver Broncos as Pat gives his real time reaction. Make sure you subscribe to YouTube.com/ThePatMcAfeeShow and listen every day on Mad Dog Sports Radio, Sirius XM Channel 82. We appreciate you all for listening, come laugh with us, cheers.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello, it is Wednesday, April 28th, 2021. Let the speculation begin on what the hell is going to go down tomorrow night. The first round of the NFL draft takes place and we will be live, live, live starting at 7 30 eastern standard time at youtube.com forward slash the Pat McAfee show watching along with what we think will be an absolutely explosive first round in the nfl conversations today are a lot of speculation a lot of rumors a lot of our thoughts a lot of our opinions it's a great time to be an nfl fan a lot's popping off and we are very thankful for you choosing to allow us to be in your ear holes right now.

If by the end of this thing you enjoy it, please be a friend, tell a friend. If not, just act like it never happened. Big shout out to Nick Mangold, who stops by for a quick conversation, AJ Hawk, and the boys. Let's have a Wednesday. Big things coming tomorrow. Be a friend, tell a friend. Cheers.

One day away from the Draft Spectacular. Yes! We are obviously excited for the draft to take place tomorrow night. Our Draft Spectacular will start at 7.30 Eastern Standard Time at youtube.com forward slash the Pat McAfee Show. Surprise guests, big guests, good conversation, and all reactions to everything happening in the NFL tomorrow night as franchises hope to turn everything around will be live.

And I can break some news on our draft spectacular that's happening tomorrow night. Really? We will have a general manager who has a pick in the first round joining us at 7.40 p.m. Eastern Standard Time. He will give us some insights into what he's thinking going into draft night. I did not expect to get a yes here whenever I sent the, or casted the

line out there. Excuse me, how you doing? I know you're going to be busy. Is there any chance you could stop by and have a little conversation inside of us on things? Hold on, let me see. Alright. Just kind of put it down in the thing. I can't believe you got him. Grab a beer. I of put it down in the thing. You got him. Grabbed a beer.

I think that's how fishing trips go. Of course. Grab a beer out there. At this age, I packed on a lot of sunscreen. Okay. I have to. Previously, probably wouldn't have done that. Probably would have just sat on the boat and said, fucking go ahead and get me.

You know what I mean? And then would have been lobster for the next two days. And then all of a sudden, the barber was going, oh, oh, oh. Got it. Three dots. I'm in. How long? Three dots. I'm in. How long? 15 minutes.

Lock it in. Ah! We got it! Thank you, Belichick. Okay. Whoa, whoa. Maybe. Maybe.

Hey, maybe. Woo! You said lobster. Maybe. It's not Bill Belichick. Come on. Maybe, though. It's not Bill Belichick.

But then also, we have massive guests throughout the evening. A.J. Hawk will be joining us before taking off to the Kentucky Derby to join Aaron Rodgers and the whole crew down there. So we cannot wait for that. And also give us, guess what, something to talk about. That's right. All right. Big news today, Wednesday, April 28, 2021.

Big news today. Aside from new vlog from Foxy and Roman's health coming out at 8.30 p.m. tonight. Foxy absolutely killed it. And Roger. Behind the scenes of last week, that was a big storyline in this one. Me meeting Vince McMahon. Me meeting Vince McMahon. Things going on behind the scenes, other stuff.

I think people enjoy it. But other big news that is happening today and was announced this morning, I think it was alluded to by people that I had talked to over the last couple weeks. But ladies and gentlemen, Antonio Brown now back as a Buccaneer on a one-year deal. So now the Tampa Bay Buccaneers have been able to not only put the 22 starters back onto the field after winning a Super Bowl, which they were able to do pre-Antonio Brown. And whenever that happened, we actually said, oh, so Antonio Brown not deemed a starter, I guess.

And everybody was like, why aren't they bringing back A.B.? A.B. actually commented on a Tampa Bay Buccaneers post congratulating themselves on bringing back all 22 starters. And A.B. said, actually bring A.B. back or something like that. With the off the field situation getting handled in the last couple weeks, everybody assumed this was going to happen. We didn't know for sure. He signs for, I think, $3.5 million guaranteed, $2 million signing bonus,

$1.5 million salary. Could go up to six-point-something if he performs again. This is obviously great for Tom Brady and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Antonio Brown is a person that whether you like him or you hate him, which there are people that do both. As somebody who had him shake the shit out of me in the middle of Heinz Field on a

punt return and has had former teammates and friends that have been teammates of his and coaches that have coached him, everybody says the same thing. The guy is dynamic. He works his ass off. And literally, he is a nonstop competitive machine. Now, we obviously all saw him potentially hit rock bottom,

whether it was mental health or whatever else was going on in his life over the past couple years with the whole situation, leaving Pittsburgh, going to the Raiders, leaving the Raiders in a very, very loud fashion, which a lot of people, some people did not like, going to the Patriots, ending up leaving the Raiders, leaving the Raiders in a very, very loud fashion, which a lot of people, some people did not like going to the Patriots, ending up leaving the Patriots, accusations, lawsuits, everything like that. That is all behind Antonio Brown. Now, it feels like last year was a success for him down in Tampa.

Now that everything off the field has been completely handled for him. I feel like there's a lot of people that are very pumped for Antonio Brown's kind of second chapter in the NFL here. And I think if I'm Tom Brady, I got to think to myself, Bruce Arians, Jason Light, Mike Greenberger, my fucking guys. If I was on a team that had this type of head coach, GM and salary guru, I might have won 15 Super Bowls. Because if you're staring down that Tampa Bay Buccaneers team and you saw how good they got late and you listen to our conversation with Clyde Christensen who's been in the NFL forever who is coaching in Tampa Bay had coached in Indianapolis along Peyton Manning obviously

Andrew Luck now he's down in Tampa with Tom Brady and that entire coaching staff he said at the end Super Bowl week he said I wish we had like eight more weeks right like we're just starting to get it like we're just starting to understand the offense. And it was very obvious in the playoffs. It wasn't just the offense that was starting to click. And after that bye week that they had where they changed some things. And I think Tom kind of, you know, had a little bit more assertion on what he wanted to do.

And I think he and Bruce came together on that, which is a smart move by everybody, but they feel like they're only going to get better and better in the defensive side of the ball in the playoffs. They became a defense and everybody was like, God damn, those boys are flying around. All coordinators are back. Bowles is back.

B.A. is back. Leftwich. Byron Leftwich is back. The goodies. Everybody is back. Coach A.Q. Shipley is back. Everybody's back again. And you have to assume that Tom Brady ain't going to let anybody get complacent.

Tom Brady is not going to be like, oh, we won, let's have the Super Bowl hangover. Now, I'm not saying that he's the only quarterback that would do that. I don't think that's the case. But I think Tom Brady at this point, he's about collecting rings. So B.A. has already said, oh, I'm going to beat the shit out of them whenever they get back to training camp or whatever. I don't think there's going to be any complacency. I think you've got a lot of pros down there.

I think there's a chance we see a real run out of this Tampa Bay Buccaneers team, especially in the NFC South. That has become a bit of a question mark now that old Drew Brees is gone and also 10 other players from the Saints had to be cut because of salary cap issue. What's going on in Atlanta? Literally nobody knows. Nobody has a clue. Carolina, they got Darnold, but do they?

So it feels like what Tom Brady did in the AFC East, he's about to potentially do in the NFC South. And how long is that going to be for? And how long will they be able to keep all of their talent? I don't know how the fuck they signed Gronk. Mike Evans. Chris Godwin. Gronk? Yeah. Mike Evans. Chris Godwin. Gronkowski.

Fournette. Antonio Brown. Tom Brady. O.J. Howard. Cameron Brait. Giovanni Bernard. Yeah. Ronald Jones.

Giovanni Bernard. Okay. That's skill positions. Okay. Scooty. And Scoot. Scoot. Scottie Miller. Yeah. Scottiety miller okay that's 11 that's a

starting 11 just at skill positions that are probably all worth amount of money that you would never think you keep and then you go to the defensive side of the ball and dominican sue just re-signed back in there after his best year vita vea i believe had something they have an entire squad down there in tampa that if they can somehow continue to stack years and Mike Greenberg, their salary cap guru, can continue to just kick the can down the road, we'll deal with this whenever, you know, Google, Apple, Netflix, and Amazon

are the ones bidding on games. And it's just, I don't know, maybe $250 billion somehow or at some point they'll sign like a 20-year deal or whatever with the way money's going with streaming in this particular. So I just feel like they're going to be able to do it. And you have to ask yourself, how many Super Bowls are these sons of bitches going to win down in Tampa?

That's our poll for today. Zito, if you could please read that. I would like to see the early indications of what the fans are thinking because I'm not saying Antonio Brown was a make or break for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, but I not saying Antonio Brown was a make or break for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers but I think adding Antonio Brown to that team you have to think yourself these motherfuckers are gonna do it again oh yeah they're gonna do it doesn't hurt last year COVID protocol couldn't even be in the same locker room with each other they didn't know each other uh

couldn't you couldn't eat together you couldn't really have anything Tom Brady went in there and Peyton Manning told us that on our Super Bowl spectacular he he said that what Tom has been able to accomplish is very impressive, especially or more impressive than anything I've ever done. Without the ability to hang around people, without the ability to build the team chemistry or anything like that, they went to the high school, I guess, but still, no preseason games, no nothing. Now they have an entire season behind them.

They've been through their lumps. They've experienced things together. They're back on it. You have to think that they're going to win at least another one down there in tampa over the next couple years that is our poll for today zito what do we have uh how many super bowls will the tampa bay buccaneers team win uh last place right now four at four percent three at seven percent we have uh one at 41 percent and two at 48 percent so two super bowls has the majority. I think that is the smart, like, they're definitely going to win another one.

Go grab another one. Yeah, they're going to get another one. Is it this year or is it the year after that? Maybe it's even the year after that with what they've been able to do contract-wise. They might be able to kick Tom's salary 10 years down the road. Will Tom be able to play for four years? I mean, the TB12 business model is to say hey become the best version of you he is proving that he's better than he's ever been at this point looks in better

shape than he's ever looked and there's a guy uh bland i think played till he's 49 or something like that so wouldn't it be good for the tb12 life thing to say hey this is how you become a superhuman if you become the oldest greatest player of all time in the biggest league of all time maybe i've never talked to him legitimately i've never talked to him but if i'm a businessman thinking of the tb12 thing you should want to be the greatest the oldest the everything yeah and by the way if that happens not i'm not bought in now all right i should be tb12 already i think we all should be this is kind of like a powerball where people won't play until it's like 800 million or something like that like 70 million isn't enough to come on okay one or two dollars now to 70 million pretty good pot odds there but it's not until it's like 600 700 900 where people are like

oh i'm gonna play now i'm gonna play now and that's why you see the big jumps there at the end like we should be respecting the tb12 thing now But if he was to become a 50-year-old fucking quarterback and winning, it'd be like, all right, I guess I'm in on the pliability. How do I go ahead? What are these immunity pills you got selling on there? I need all this shit. What's the avocado ice cream? I'll fucking eat it right now.

So I'm very impressed with what Tampa Bay has been able to do, especially in the salary cap era. I have no idea how they've been able to do it. No news on the front of Aaron Rodgers other than the foreseeable future stuff, Ty, but whenever you're Aaron, if you're Aaron, and I'm not saying I have no idea. This is once again, have not talked to Aaron since the last time he was on this show.

If you're Aaron, you see Tampa doing this with Antonio Brown coming back, costing 3 million bucks. Antonio Brown, obviously unbelievable talent, both if he wanted to get in the punt return game, he's not. But whatever the case, he's going to start wherever the hell he goes. That's what Antonio Brown's going to do. Although he wasn't even started last year, I guess, for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

But you get it. The thought of being a quarterback, looking around and seeing, like, oh, Tom's getting this, this, this, and this. Especially after all these OG quarterbacks are like, the only thing that matters in this draft is the organization and the team they're going to you have to think there has to be some envy coming from other quarterbacks for what's going on in tampa bay kansas city and other places like that yeah absolutely and we'll see because it it almost does feel like this might be the year where the packers do take a receiver like a lot of the stuff i've been reading is saying they might be

interested in trading up to get one of their guys so i mean i don't know it just it's not only that they got everyone back but then they like still added you know it's not just like they did they saw they re-signed everyone but then they still got a couple of these other guys who like you know the packers could have had interest in to help rogers out it's like well shit you know i mean the bucks weren't supposed to have any money you guys don't have any money like how are how are they the ones that ended up getting the deal done? I'm fascinated by how all these deals work long term because it feels like it is. And we've hammered this home, and it's getting annoying for me to say, so I'd assume it's annoying to listen to.

But there's going to be two very different teams. There's going to be two styles of team creation that's going to happen. It started with the Rams a little bit, you know, when they had Goff and they started bringing in, and Dominick Kinsu was a part of that. Aqib Tlaib was a part of that. They started signing everybody, the biggest deals of all time. They were bringing in a bunch of talent around Jared Goff because they had a cheaper quarterback in Jared Goff's rookie contract.

Then they paid Jared Goff, they paid everybody, and all of a sudden it all kind of went to shit. So they obviously get rid of Goff. They bring in Stafford. They save money bringing in Stafford, although they had to pay for some of Goff's dead cap space. But the super team idea with the OGs, you're going to start seeing it. I bet every warm climate team is starting to think. Oh, yeah.

Like, if I'm Miami, listen, I know Miami is not doing this. This is not what they're in. But let's say this particular regime does not work in Miami for whatever reason. I'm not saying B-flow is not going to work or is going to work. Who knows how that will think. But they should think down the road if they do ever have a regime change, people would love to retire down here in Miami. We can get older players down here.

We can get guys that have been there, done that with the entire league. You've got no state tax down here. It's beautiful. It's warm. We can become a goat farm, like what Tampa's basically doing, what Kansas City's trying to do. I feel like there's going to be that type of idea, and then there's going to be teams that are like, all right,

we're going to build you up. Build through the draft. We're not going to be able to probably get guys to want to come ring chase with us, which is basically what all those teams. Tampa Bay is a ring chasing place. People are going to say, okay, I want to go get a ring. I'm going to Tampa. I'm going to Kansas City, which by the way, shout out to Kansas City making that happen

in the middle of the map. Incredible barbecue. Oh yeah. Does get cold as fuck. Freezing. But Patrick Mahomes, Andy Reid, quite a destination for people to go to. I wonder what teams are going to pick and choose to do what? Look at fucking New England.

New England's like, all right, listen, we're going to, we're going to go. We tried. We've going to pick and choose to do what look at fucking new england new england's like uh all right listen we're gonna we're gonna go we tried uh we've done that whole thing didn't work we're gonna acquire talent that's what we're gonna do i wonder who's gonna do that who's not gonna do that that'll be fascinating to see and what's more successful is it the proven ogs that are somehow taking pay cuts but also getting paid in the in the back end somehow that'll continue to win or will it be the teams that build through the draft and kind of go young and can't necessarily get the big time free agents to come to town what's that what do you think even like a team like the chargers you know like they have their quarterback in uh herbert so it's like hey if we know we have this guy for the next x amount of years like what we're in la same deal brand new stadium. Who's to say they won't do it as well? And that defense, that defense is very good.

Herbert's going to be very good. Austin Eckler was on Levitard's show. Congrats to Levitard once again, by the way. That was a massive deal yesterday. Massive deal. Good for Dan Levitard. Awesome. But Austin Eckler was on there.

He said the first time he saw Phil Rivers with his kids, he thought it was a meet and greet. Fucking hysterical line. That's one of my favorite things I've ever heard in my entire life. I thought it was like a meet and greet situation. It turns out it was just his kids or whatever. It's like, okay, Austin Eckler, another stud in there. They have Keenan Allen, right?

Yep. They lose Hunter Henry, though, which is a big deal. Now he goes to New England. But there's going to be some teams that are going to be very good that are maybe one to two players, you think, away, one injury away. Because injuries happen in the NFL, and it is a bummer. Listen, it is not good. I seen Peyton get hurt.

Oh, yeah. We almost lost every fucking game. We were undefeated until we chose to lose. Two years later, Peyton gets hurt we almost went completely defeated until Dan Orlovsky came in boy Danny Dan won us two games there at the end almost lost us Andrew Luck but then you look like Andrew Luck it's injuries at vital positions are a killer like that is just something that happens but I feel like the way you prepare for that is you just get depth yeah you get massive amounts of depth at positions that if you lose, you're dead.

Weapons, I think, are some of them. I think you lose a dynamic playmaker, everybody else feels it. Now, Cleveland Browns lost Odell, and their offense kind of hit a rhythm. And Baker came out and said that that's because they're in bye week and they were learning the offense and things, something like that. It's an absurd thought for people to think that Odell Beckham is not going to help that Browns offense next year. It's like, well, I mean, it's absurd now.

I hope Odell comes in there and crushes it. But aside from that, if somebody gets hurt, you kind of get fucked. And now if your quarterback gets hurt, you're in trouble regardless. But when you're stocking up on these dynamic players, I mean, you're looking out for your future self whenever you inevitably run into an injury bug that's going to hurt you. And it's like, we would have won a Super Bowl if it wasn't for this. It's like, well, you could have stocked up on that, though.

That seems to be what everybody else is doing. Tampa Bay, you just mentioned it. Tampa Bay has 12 guys at the skill positions that they can interchange. Ronald Jones got hurt. Yeah. Hell of a running back, Ronald Jones got hurt. Leonard Fournette came playoff lenny was birthed from that whenever whenever stud running back ronald jones and

they had leonard fornette was playing but he wasn't playing as good as he had played when ronald jones got hurt and leonard fornette was told like hey you're the guy now it was like it was a whole new here you go but that's the type of injury that their offense could have got affected by if you go to a non-leonard for net play right evans got hurt late in the season there they're worried he was going to even play in that playoff game against washington and godwin steps up like yeah i mean it's fine it never is it's one of those things where one of those injuries could have been catastrophic and could have been a oh what would have been like oh we could have won if it wasn't for this those teams are like no if they get hurt, hey, thank you for your run.

Take two, three weeks. Take a breather because we're going to need you because old buddy's about to get old. Oh, yeah, he's an old pro as well, by the way. It's just fascinating to see the ideals behind it because I think there's going to be some people who old school, you know, they came up through the scouting, like drafting is the big deal. And listen, drafting is a big deal. scouting like drafting is the big deal and listen drafting is a big deal okay i i think you have to hit on some draft picks to continue to build your team and undrafted free agents and all that shit i think it's a big deal but i think it's going to become i think it's gonna become a situation

where the people that are building upon that have to be very very patient in the world that we live in will they be able to be patient enough that's like for the new york jets zach wilson that's gonna be a very young team will the jets fans in media and everything over there be patient with them growing? I doubt it. No way. I doubt it. I doubt it. Like Bob Salah is loved right now, right?

Everybody loves Bob. Everybody loves Joe Douglas. Steve Young on Mark Sanchez's Fourth and Forever Adventure series. Yeah, Fourth and Forever series. Fourth and Forever series. It's on a YouTube. It is on a YouTube. Fourth and Forever. Fourth and Forever's it's on uh it's on a youtube it is on a youtube fourth and forever fourth and forever's youtube yeah is that the number four

is it spelled out number four th the and symbol forever and he talked to steve young about i think zach wilson and everything like that and he was sitting in a desert i think he was it felt like arizona or something middle of a desert it was pretty good little backdrop there's a cool pool yeah very cool pool bag a little mountain too too, I think I saw in the video. Steve Young said something about basically like if Joe Douglas is saying something like, you know, he means it or something like that. Yeah. So what the fuck does that mean?

Is Joe Douglas just known for like Joe Douglas is just a stern but fair guy? Oh, yeah. He says it. He knows. He means it. No bullshit. That's what Joe... That Sanchez-Steve Young conversation, very good. I would, he means it. No bullshit. That's what that Sanchez Steve Young conversation. Very good. I

would definitely listen to it fourth and forever. Now I haven't, but I should is what I'm going to. I'm going to listen to it. We're hopping on a plane here to head down to the FanDuel Beach House. I'll probably watch him on there. I think he also sat down with Ryan Day and Justin Fields and went through some film and stuff like that. It's a very good series like pumped that Sanchez did that.

But it is an interesting thought that well Zach will just like Sam Darnold you know and who knows what Sam Darnold's gonna be but will he ever really get a chance if they stink because we're in an instant gratification society now and it's much different than it used to be in New York I guess it's always been this way because there's always been a lot of eyes on them but across the entire NFL it's starting to happen. If you stink right now, you're going to hear about it on social media. You're going to have to feel your fans' actual wrath.

There's a chance they're going to be booing and boycotting if you seem like you stink. I mean, that has happened to ownerships. So I feel like that, and I wrote about it in 2017 maybe in my notes section. 2017 maybe in my notes section. I feel like, I feel like if you don't get hot early, you're never really going to get the chance that you could, you have. And that could be very detrimental to some of these young teams.

I want to kind of do an upstart through the draft as opposed to the OGs that kind of all mingle and migrate to a place. It's like, these guys have all figured out how to play football. That's why they've been in the NFL long enough. They figured out how to make it in the NFL. And when they start gathering, I'm always going to think that

that team is going to beat the fuck out of the young team. I have always, just from watching older players who like, here we go. And Gary Brackett does not deserve this. Okay? Gary Brackett does not deserve this. He's awesome.

Gary Brackett, incredibly cool dude Love Gary Friend of the show Friend of the show He's been very nice to me Like I love Gary Brackett But when I saw Gary Brackett If I had an uncle that was black

It would look exactly like Gary Brackett Like he's built like Connor Right He's built like Boston Connor Like same size Right There's nothing really Like you look at him

You're just like That is just Regular dude That's just like that is just regular. That's a businessman. That is a regular ass dude. Yeah, but he was so smart. He knew the game inside and out. He did tendencies. He knew everything he could hit. Obviously, he's incredibly tough and everything like that. But if you

were to have Gary play against a bunch of young players, and I saw it in practice, and I saw it in the game, Gary was going to win. Like that's just, Gary was smarter than you were. He's been around. He knows how this game works. He knows how to lose it. Now, granted, he got got, okay?

But what I'm saying is, when you get the OGs, and you get them all together, the amount of football knowledge that is in there, and NFL knowledge that is much different than college football or anything like that, it is just, I tend to believe that that's going to be the way to win. Yeah. And I think there's going to be a lot of teams' fans that are just going to be the way to win yeah and i think there's gonna be a lot of teams fans that are just gonna be sitting on the sideline watching those teams make those plays and utilize the salary cap and try to do that whole thing and

that's why if i ever thought chris ballard i'm gonna say why the fuck is julio jones not gonna be in that and sanchez said it about sam donald he was like look hey this guy's gonna go three and out and get booed out of the stadium and never have a real chance like if zach wilson and the jets start out oh and2, 0-3, he's going to get eviscerated. I don't know. See, I think they'll let him one season. Okay.

Okay, like I think. 16, 17 games. I don't know the Jets fans as well as Jet fans who are probably watching this, but I think they would be understanding for one season. Yeah. Okay, new head coach, new quarterback. We've stunk. Okay. I think they would be understanding for one season. New head coach, new quarterback, we've stunk. I think they would be.

That second year, though, if things started to get bad, I believe it would be okay, we ain't fucking doing it again. Fireman Ed's going to quit again. I feel like that is how it'll go, but in your second year, are you anywhere near where you're potentially going to be? Imagine if Buffalo just quit on Josh Allen two games into the second year are you anywhere near where your potential gonna be imagine if buffalo

just quit on josh allen like two games into the second year and put in a backup which could potentially happen if fans would have won apeshit not that bill's mafia is not very loyal but i'm just saying if they were calling for it and calling for it because josh's first year was not impressive no okay josh allen looked like a rookie quarterback and he looked like a guy who okay had all the talent in the world but this doesn't seem like this league is going to be for him. Then in the offseason, come back for year two, he looked much better. But he did not look like an elite quarterback still. He was a second-year quarterback.

Then he came back for his third year and was like, holy fuck, here we go. This guy is a player. Like if he's in other cities other than Buffalo, does that happen? I'm not 100% sure. And it's kind of, you know, it's going to be interesting to watch how this whole thing fucking pans out for these teams. Well, and to Dilfer's point from yesterday, too,

like how much more that heats up if, you know, Mack Jones or Justin Fields or whoever goes into San Francisco and they start playing pretty, or, you know, the team's winning and they're playing okay, then it's like, okay, well, you know, look at these guys They're out here performing And Zach Wilson, obviously, he's got a young team Doesn't have the same chance

Like, they stink I mean, the odds might just be, like, stacked against you With who else is going behind you in the draft class Hey, you know how this doesn't happen? You go out and fucking win That's right That's, I mean It's all that matters

But if Fields and Lance and Mac Jones do better than Zach Wilson They're gonna burn the city down. Those headlines are going to be awesome. Oh, yeah. Especially if it's, you know. Zach a shit. What if. Oh, man.

Oh, my God. That's a good one. Yeah, I hope that. We'll have to remember that. Yeah, we'll see if that one makes a play or whatever. And Zach doesn't deserve that, by the way. No. Hey, Zach, you don't deserve whatever happens if you don't play incredible football early.

And, you know, because different quarterbacks take time. I think Peyton Manning went through the most interceptions in the history of the NFL or something like his rookie year or whatever. And then, obviously, he continued to get better and better and better and better. And now I'm a Mount Rushmore guy. So it's like those days are gone, though, it feels like. Yeah. It's going to be tough.

If one of those quarterbacks ends up in New England and they do well in New England in the division where Zach Wilson is, it's just going to be amplified even more. Especially with them talking about trading up and potentially getting Justin Fields allegedly now. There's a lot of smoke around that that the Patriots are going to go get Justin Fields if he falls at all. Well they already said

they've laid the groundwork for the Panthers at eight. So if there are no trade-ups between picks four and seven then you assume hopefully the patriots go up to eight and get their guy we'll see okay so we're gonna let everybody know that we made the decision this morning for the draft spectacular that for the first 10 picks we will not be watching the draft the decisions made with the draft picks will be popping up on the screen to us as the viewers are watching along. So we might be five to ten seconds

behind. So if something absurd happens and you're not watching, know that there's probably about to be a fucking uproar. Oh yeah. Both in Indianapolis and at the house down in Tampa Bay. So I think that was a good decision. I don't think we can do it for all 32 because, you know, if somebody's

falling in the green room or something like that, we're going to have to watch. We're going to have to have that. There's potential other drama that could happen. But for those first 10 picks, anything could happen out there. And whenever I say anything, I mean absolutely anything, including $20,000 being given away by me and AJ.

Oh! Yeah, yeah, yeah. So we'll see how that whole thing pans out. We're doing a 20K Top 10 Pat Hawk Mock, and it is $10,000 for charity, $10,000 to the viewers, the commenters, and Fando has already got us going on and doing our thing. People go through many changes as we get older, isn't that right? Oh, yeah.

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Well, if it starts around 30, this is one of those questions on a test where, you know, begins around 30 in the testosterone production declines by roughly 1% per year. So does it start at zero or does it start at 30? That's the thing. This is where they can get you. It's one of them damn word problems. This is one of those rounds where you're like, oh, wait a minute.

Which, can I ask a follow-up? Anyways, I was good at those tests because I always viewed it as me versus the fucking teacher. That's right. Okay? I don't know what's going on, but this is me versus you. Fuck you.

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Hey, Roman. Thank you, Roman. Thank you, Roman. Thank you, Roman. Join us now, ladies and gentlemen, two Ohio State legends, NFL legends as well, from the same hometown in Ohio. Nick Mangold chooses to go back and see the people of Centerville.

A.J. Hawk refuses to go back. Ladies and gentlemen, A.J. Hawk and Nick Mangold. Yeah! How you doing? I find it hard to believe that A.J. has not gone back to Centerville. I've been back recently. Hey, Nick, you live in New Jersey, though, full time, so it's not like Nick's there.

Oh, jeez. I kind of said he's a sellout there. Are you golfing right now? Are you a good golfer? Yeah, man. Out here with my good friend Tim Cooney. We got Mike Felix out here. How's your game?

Bushwood Country Club. How's your game? Terrible. He's putting. Sorry about that. Nick, I don't want to interrupt your golf match. You look unbelievable. The beard looks good. The glasses. I mean, your golf accessory game is

top 10 right now. You could get on any course because you have the polo, but you're still letting everybody know I'm here for the good time, the apres golf, not necessarily the golf. I appreciate that. Mangold, the New York Jets are about to get Zach Wilson as the quarterback. Will he survive long enough to potentially become a good player, or is he going to get run out of town if they stink early, you think?

I hope he survives long enough. You know, I'm the internal optimist. That worked out well in my favor last year, drinking some barbecue sauce. So good. So good. So good.

But, you know, I got my fingers crossed. I want him to do well because I want my son to see a Super Bowl. Really? How fast does he have to be good, though? I know Sanchez came right out of the gates, and you guys had a good team around him.

He was playing very well, so I think the fans liked him early. Does Zach Wilson have to come out the first four games and put on a show? Yeah, I think that's the big key. I think he needs to come out and just show a stable quarterback. He doesn't have to do anything crazy, but he needs to win some games and show that he can win the game and not the team around him winning it. So as long as he does that, he'll buy himself an extra two years. Okay. Do you think, did you know Zach Wilson existed before, you know, a couple of

months ago or what did, who did you think was coming to the jets all along? Or did you not really pay attention? I got, I'm not going to lie to you guys. I didn't pay attention. I've never heard of this, that kid. Hold on. We got the putt. One-handed putt. Come on. Come on. Got it. Oh, lived right off the rim. 30 feet would have been beautiful. Left-handed putt.

Son of a bitch. Hey, if it went in, we wouldn't have known anyways. But did you know Zach existed? Oh, no. Oh, no. Hey, could you hear me ask if you knew that Zach Wilson existed? Yeah, and I said, no. He asked, hey, could you hear me? He asked if you knew that Zach Wilson existed. Yeah, and I said that no. I heard about a week ago.

Yeah, so when you heard that a week ago, what were your initial thoughts? Were you like, okay, I thought we were getting Justin Fields. I thought we were getting Ohio State. What were the initial thoughts of Zach Wilson? And do you, as somebody who's from Centerville, Ohio, got thrusted into New York and New Jersey, now you're a center, so it's different. Do you think that is made out to be much more than it actually is?

No, New York is a very difficult place to be. The media is always around you, no matter what program you come from. Coming from the Ohio State University, like my good friend A.J. Hawk, we always had media around but there's nothing like new york media um so as long as anyone's prepared for it they can deal with it um but you know byu that that's not really the media hub of the u.s wait amen go ahead ty nick i don't know if you recently saw aj is now a big-time influencer for miller light i'm just wondering when you guys live together, uh,

did you have to like kind of like babysit him and be like, Hey AJ, we can't just have like 500 Miller lights laying in the living room at all times. Like you got to clean. Was he like a slob or how was he to live with? No, no. He was a neat freak. Um, in fact, I think we all were, um, probably except for me, but he,. But he definitely was the neat freak. He kept the place clean. We had one of those vacuum cleaners that they have at restaurants where you just push and pull and it sucks things up.

He was always using that thing. AJ, I didn't know that about you. Is that still, are you like OCD now still, AJ? Yeah, I like to keep things clean. Okay. Makes sense. He does vacuum his desk. That's why your desk, your stupid cluttered desk bothers me so much because

I see it like that would cause anyone some issues, I think. Not anyone. No, I don't think so. But I have got to the point where I think I need to clean this thing. Because I have that other desk down in Tampa, you know, and I've realized that it's much easier to kind of operate. There might be seven. Now, we did have a contest going.

Oh, I'm still counting. Still counting. Zito got halfway through. He did bookmark it. How many pieces of paper do you think are right here? You used the hashtag big stack. Yeah, Pat's big stack. Pat's big stack.

There it is. That's the exact amount. And you tweet it out, and you get it right. You win $10, stack. There it is. That's the exact amount. And you tweet it out and you get it right. You win $10,000. Keep sending them. Pat's big stack. Zito's halfway through counting. That's very nice of him.

Connor, what do you have? Yeah, Mangle, we were talking about the Bengals earlier. Why do the Bengals have to go get an offensive lineman? And do you think that they'll actually fall through with it or just let Joe Burrow die? No, I really don't think that they want him to die. I think an offensive lineman would be great. I know playmakers are the sexy thing to do,

but if your quarterback's on his back, it's not going to do you any good. All right, Nick, we appreciate you. We hope you get a birdie or four out there. You look unbelievable. We hope the game replicates that. I appreciate it. That's why I dress so nice, because I'm going to play terrible, but I'm going to look sweet doing it. Well, you almost just

buried a 30-foot putt, so keep it going. 74 barbecues, unbelievable. Ladies and gentlemen, Nick Mangold. Thank you, guys. Appreciate it. See you, man. So, AJ, we can't have people on a golf course on the show. I sensed that right away from you.

Hey, we talked about it. He said, is it all right if I answer from the course? I said, yeah. I thought maybe he'd be sitting in his cart or whatever, but no, he was actively playing. Almost drained a 30-foot putt. It's tough. I knew, you know, because who knows with the golf course

how much service there is as well. I've been forced to do an interview from a golf course before, and it wasn't, it was terrible. I mean, it was no fun for anybody. Everybody's upset about it. It's like, but we appreciate Nick coming in there. The New York media thing is real, though, AJ. Like, I think the Zach Wilson situation is going to be fascinating to watch. Is he, do we know, and this is, the Mormons don't deserve this.

Is there a good Mormon community in New Jersey or New York? Do we know? And is he a devout Mormon? Yeah, I do not think so. Because I think that's a big deal. I think the Mormon community that you're around is a big deal. I'm getting a stern head shake of no from Mansouri who grew up in the area. There's not a lot of Mormons over there?

Not a very large Mormon contingent in New York, no. Uh-oh. Usually if there are, there are transplants from Utah that have migrated east. Okay, and is he a devout Mormon? Because I believe that's a massive thing. The community is a very, very big deal. So my initial thoughts were if he has that very tight Mormon community kind of welcoming him in over there, I don't think he'll even, you know, potentially get too caught up with all the shit. Now, he might.

I mean, I don't know. But I think that is a question that I would like to know before I, you know, buy in on whether or not the big city is going to kill him or not. I just I think in the modern day, the Internet, I mean, Sanchez said the microphones are right in your face every single day. So that's a little bit different. I guess it's right there physically, but I feel like everything Zach Wilson does for the rest of his life is going to be talked about New York. It's obviously heightened. It's obviously very heightened, but like Carson Wentz, I don't even think he knows the world exists. You know what I mean?

He just came from Philadelphia. He's just out in the woods doing stuff. I just, I feel like you can escape from it. If you, if you're the type of person that's going to escape from it or you're going to be in it if you're the person that's going to be in it, you know? Yeah, I think it's a little bit harder to escape from it if you're trying to in New York City compared to Indianapolis or somewhere else, Green Bay. It's a lot easier to shut everything off or kind of get away from it, even for the night or something when you leave the facility.

But going back to your Mormon thing, don't you think, though, anyfl team he goes to there's going to be a lot less mormons around him than he has right now so it's not like he's going to go to green bay oh hey there's 14 000 mormons here ready to welcome you it's not going to be like that does green bay have that many mormons is green bay a big mormon oh i have no clue brady papinga my roommate for five years on on home and away games yeah he was i was. I mean, he'll be offended. He did Church of Latter-day Saints, so he's very specific in how he likes to be talked about. Oh, man. Book of Mormon, by the way, was my introduction to the Mormon religion.

And then when I—why'd you laugh like that? He would love to hear that. He would love to hear that. That's how—that's your introduction, too. Austin didn't love that either. Austin Cawley, obviously, was the same draft class as me and i think that was first thing i told him he's like bro come on like he gave me he was austin cawley one of the coolest dudes of all time and i've told this story before he broke down the entire mormon religion in about a 30 minute

speed and agility session out in our practice field and i ran with the speed group that time just so i could run next to him or whatever and this was when mitt romney was allegedly going to be president oh yeah so i said hey austin if this guy's going to be a president i'd like to fucking know what's going on yeah you know i seen book of mormon i'd like to i'd like to know he gave me like a 30 minute rundown of the whole thing answer my questions i was like okay like i don't believe that but i could see how that is your religion like i could see because there's a lot of shit in a lot of religions that if you were to just say out loud and be like oh yeah that makes sense like that that's you know there's a lot of things that you have to go on faith or whatever and i

think the mormon community is a very very very tight-knit one you know what i mean like and i think austin the mormon community i think he found some people here in Indianapolis that you can kind of hang around. I think. I might be completely out of line in saying that. But I wondered immediately if he's like a – is he a devout Mormon or is he potentially – I almost said super Mormon. Yeah, you heard me almost say that. You started to chuckle. Have you heard of Jack Mormon?

I've heard of that term. What is that? Searching. I guess just not as devout, not as serious. You may take a little. Maybe you have a little bit of caffeine or something. I don't know. Hey, listen.

Diet Cokes will get the boys buzzing. Oh, yeah. Oh, my God. But I would like to know what that is over there. Murder of the Mormons. That tells you a lot about what was going on over there. What's that? Salt Lake City. What are you talking about? Hey, look. I just don't know everything of the Mormons. That tells you a lot about what was going on over there in Salt Lake City.

What are you talking about? Hey, look, I just don't know everything about the Mormon religion, so I'm not going to get into it. I don't think anybody does, by the way. There's only one person. It feels like you could spin a lot of shit over there. Whoa, whoa, whoa. What are you? Irish Catholic?

I don't know what I am. I'm a worldist. That's what I am. I am somebody who legitimately has a lot of respect for people's religions because I've had a lot of interactions with a lot of people from a lot of different religions, and I have a lot of questions for all of them. So you do what you got to do. But, I mean, just sitting up there on a perch,

potentially believing in a sea parting, somebody dancing on water, and two-stepping into a full redfish-bluefish situation. I mean, I assume that a sea parting, you know, and somebody dancing on water and, you know, two-stepping into a full redfish, bluefish situation. I mean, I assume that the Mormons would be like, and how does this go there? And I assume there's other religions that are like, well, we're the oldest religion, so wouldn't we

be the right one? Reincarnation? We're the oldest one. Don't you think God told us first? And there's a lot of questions. Tom Cruise. But I think the community's a big deal. Oh, yeah. Yeah, Scientology is another one. There's so lot of questions. Tom Cruise. But I think the community is a big deal. Oh, yeah. Yeah, Scientology is another one. There's so many. Easy.

I don't even know if we're allowed to. Come on. Easy, pal. What are you talking about? I told you that. I wanted to go in. I wanted to go check it out. I am so curious about religion.

I'm legitimate. And I get people. I think some people hear me say things about religion. They come after me because they think I'm mocking their religion. No, no. I am so fascinated wars okay wars and wars and wars and wars have been had because of this so many people have people have changed their entire lives because of this thing people have disappeared off the face of the earth because of different religions i am so fascinated

by the religion thing just all of it it. So I have so many questions. I had never seen a Scientology building. That was the first time I ever was like. Oh, and it's a nice building. Oh, yeah. They got big. Oh, my God. I got questions.

Hey, how did we get here? How was Tom Cruise the guy? Like, what about Travolta? I heard he was getting run out of town. I got questions. And Ty, like, I've never seen Ty so stern with me. Ty, obviously, super toxic, super

that whole thing. I've never seen him so, don't you fucking even... I heard Ty in his voice go, we got a pretty good thing going. Do not fuck this up. That's kind of what it was. Once they get their claws into you, guess what? You ain't ever coming back.

There was a guy falling for three blocks that afternoon. It was awesome. It was insane. Wait, where was this? San Francisco. Oh, in San Fran. Okay, I thought you were going out to L.A. to like the main, you know, the celebrity center, the famous building they have there,

trying to walk in the front door. I mean, the San Fran one might be pretty legendary, too. It's a great satellite center. It's an entire, I don't know if it's satellite. That might be another HQ of some sort. It is right on the main drag down there. Cities will go and then they'll part

and then there's a line of buildings in the part there. It was right at the edge, at the point of that thing and it was massive. We had a plan to put the For the Brand flag in there. Who did? We did. No, no, no, no, no. We were like, we're dropped this off as a gift.

Hey, put this up. I did. I was so fascinated. I want to learn. And Ty was like, don't you fucking look at it, dude. You're like a boss to a flame. Yeah, yeah. And that's, by the way, especially with how I was at that particular time in California where it is

very illegal to do whatever you want. I was just fucking walking around like, oh my God, let's go here with these guys. I love that. When people show up at the house on their bikes or whatever, the Mormons or the Jehovah's Witnesses. I fucking love it.

People hate that? Come on in. Fucking sit down. Let's have a conversation. How did we get here? I love it. People hate that? Come on in. Fucking sit down, dude. Let's have a conversation. How did we get here? I love it. That's very different, and it has put me in some situations, obviously. I believe the batteries. I don't know, Bats.

I've not been able to hear much of anybody. How does this happen almost every single day? Because, dude, batteries die. What do you mean? It doesn't really happen. There it is, B die. What do you mean? Yeah. That really happened. Ha ha! There it is. Fats.

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Yeah. You can recharge them. Do you have a good alternative for us to use, Pat? Solar energy. What's up, AJ? Did you say, do I have an alternative? Yeah. If you think batteries are bad, what's your alternative? Would say do i have an alternative yeah if you don't if you think batteries are bad what's your alternative would you have something that we can replace why you

gotta have all the fucking answers huh all right i don't have i don't have the answers but i'm saying like i don't i can't condemn this if i don't have some kind of alternate for us to use you should i have to do that sometimes and it happens a lot in the world, too. Everybody wants to refix everything. You know, like, I mean, Kanye and Rogan. And by the way, Rogan's trending this morning. When Kanye and Rogan had their conversation, Rogan looked at Kanye and was like, oh, you're a deconstructor. Like, you want to tear things down and rebuild them or whatever? You want to rebuild them?

And I think that's a very good mindset to have, but if you don't have the answer on how to rebuild it and, and it's actually a feasible answer, I think that is a tough thing to like, continue to do. You know, like I haven't figured out how to do that on a regular basis. So for like our company, somebody will send over like a design or something and I'll be like, uh, I don't like it. I don't like it. And like, what don't you like about it? It's like, I don't like it. I don't like it. They're like, what don't you like about it? I wish I could tell you how to fix this. I have no idea. Like, I do not know what we should change. And I actually say every single time, I know I'm an asshole for saying this, but I have no idea.

I just know that we could probably do something a little bit different. I don't have the answer. So I know I have to give you an answer, but I don't like it. So let's just do something different. And normally it's Foxy who's like, all right, noted. I'll come come back and i don't know how it ever works but i do appreciate it's hard it's hard to be that type of person so when i say batteries are probably bad i have no clue what the answer is so i probably shouldn't talk about it you're right i mean they can be bad and you don't have to have a some kind of something else that we could use but going back

to what you're saying yeah i guess that that happens all the time, I think, with a lot of people. All the time. It's weird. It's the whole world. This stinks. Okay, well, fucking hell. Nah, I ain't getting fucking sick.

It probably stinks. The problem is a lot of people that have the answers are irrational idiots that don't have the answers. Yeah, but sometimes the line you can find cold yeah you got to throw you got to throw everything out there i agree you got to take a shot i and that's yeah so are you right okay i guess i'm kind of wrong there like yeah it doesn't matter everyone's not an idiot if you take a shot i have to respect it no you don't though that's the problem is normally the answer comes from somebody that you'd be like oh you've gotten 7 000 things

wrong before not going to fucking listen to you, pal. Show me your resume why I should take that serious. And then like five years later, it's like, son of a bitch was right. They knew it. I think that happens in the world a lot more than anywhere else. That's like sports. Like the GM, the GMs are going to get eviscerated after this draft tomorrow night.

And it's going to be by fans. Well, who would you have taken? I don't know. Fucking somebody good, though. Oh, yeah. And it's going to be by fans. Well, who would you have taken? I don't know. Fucking somebody good, though. It's like, did you watch 176 live games last year? Hey, Pat, also, though, also other GMs are going to be praised like they won the draft and they're the best ever. I'm like, no, we don't know either way yet.

John Lynch said that. It's going to be a couple years down the road before we even know if this was a successful draft. Well, and John Lynch was trying to soften the blow, I think, for the next year to get the pressure off of whoever gets drafted, who they even said it's going to be immense. I think the only bad draft that I've seen that I can tell right in the moment is the Packers trading up to get Jordan Love. That was bad.

That was terrible. Doesn't matter how it works out. That was terrible. No, yeah. I mean, again, no way to justify it a year later. But, hey, it's all right. You know how we justify it? We do something good this year.

We do something. Maybe trade for Julio in the first round. Well, the New York Post, I did an interview with the New York Post for, you know, that's where that guy, Mushnick, who attacked me, he tried to write a hit piece on me. Oh, yeah. That was like the, there was another attempt, I guess, that attacked my character and things like that and said the deal was bad from some nobody. But like this one, I didn't know, not know Mushnick existed. And it was in New York Post.

I'm like, fucking New York Post. Holy hell. Here we go. Oh, my God. Why? Then I read it. I was like, OK, this guy hates me. Standard New York Post. Holy hell. This is. Here we go. Oh, my God. Why? Then I read it. I was like, OK, this guy hates me. Standard old white.

This is standard operation. OK, here we go. And there was nothing I had to come out and even answer about or anything. You know, like I just found it fascinating. And I almost canceled the New York Post entirely. All right. Never fucking talking to them again. Yeah.

So then after the WWE debut with SmackDown, I fucking, I got asked to do a couple interviews. And I normally don't do that because there's enough of me talking already. I don't need to be talking on other, like, it's to save people from too much of me. Like, there's too much of me already. I don't need to be going out and doing a bunch of interviews. But WWE asked me to do it. I'm like, cool, I'll do it. So I do an interview with the New York Post.

And it was a cool conversation. Guy was a good guy. I thought it was going to be about wrestling. Post today says, the headline says that Pat McVie says that the Green Bay Packers basically mail it in on the draft and screw over Aaron Rodgers. Whoa! Why'd you say that? I didn't mean it. I did say it. I've said it

numerous times, by the way, on this show. But now it's a headline on the Post. I'm going to have to fucking answer for it. I've said it numerous times, by the way, on this show. But now it's a headline on the post. I'm going to have to fucking answer for it. I'm going to have to say, yeah. Yeah, but it's real, especially when Rodgers walks out the door. Who wrote the article? The guy that wrote the article. I'm looking at the headline right now as a stooge.

He's the same guy that buried Michael Cole after the WrestleMania mishap on night one. Oh, here we go. He's just a young up-and-comer that's trying to get fucking attention. Well, he did, though, because I saw the headline. I was like, that was not what the interview was supposed to be about. That was such a small part of the interview. It was a throw-in at the end. I don't even remember it.

It was a throw-in at the end. It was a throw-in at the end, and now I'm like, oh, my God. That's what they do, though. The Post is basically like the fucking National Enquirer of New York. See, I did not know that. As somebody from Pittsburgh and from Indiana, when that Mushnick thing came out, I was like, okay, I'm going to have to address this. Before I read it, I'm like, okay, it's New York Post.

I'm going to have to address this. And I read through, I'm like, okay, it's New York Post. I'm going to have to address this. And I read through it. I was like, oh, that guy fucking stinks. I'm not even going to give it any time because it would be helping them out. But I still, you know, outside of New York, a lot of respect for that headline. I mean, I did kind of say it, though, so I guess it's not a lie. But, Paul, goddamn, I thought it was about WWE. And now, hey, Packers, I meant it.

Uh-huh. Take care of your guy. Try to win a Super Bowl. Try to win a Super Bowl. They have to hate me over there, by the way, I'd assume. Oh, good. I don't know. I mean.

I think they have enough people. They got enough people coming at them, don't you think? I don't know if they can really zero in on individuals too much. I think we're a pretty large Green Bay Packer fan, show. I think so. They might just block out the noise. They only hear stuff inside the building. That's why.

Well, it seems like that is the case. Yeah, that's why it's not working. But I also have. It is working to back to back NFC championship game. So it's kind of like, you know, like, do you do kind of do you? Are you looking at gift horse right in the mouth here? Because back to back NFC championship games will be awesome. And this is the same thing.

This is the same thing we just started this whole thing with was like, do I have the answers? No. I think so. Yeah. Get Julio in it. How are we going to make that work? I don't know.

You're fucking out. You're fucking doing it. Finger that. Finger that. That's kind of the world we live in. Well, and I haven't ruled it out. I mean, let's say Jordan Love is incredible in five, six years. I may have a bullet waiting for my head from you know, from one of these two guys.

You know, I see him somewhere. It's like, okay, there's a guy. He's good. Let's shoot this fucker in the head and get rid of his body. What was that guy? Mad Mel? Was it Ty? Kelly.

TY. I fucking hate that guy. That's him right there. Let's go get him. Mark Murphy, too. Looks like he can handle some of this. Oh, yeah. Mark Murphy can throw some.

He played. He played in the league like seven or eight years. He was very nice to me, too, when I called that Lions-Packers game. I must say, he was very nice to me whenever he said, just go get some, go get depth. Let's win a Super Bowl. It's an arms race. It's closing.

But maybe the Jordan Love draft pick will be a good draft pick five, six years from now. Could be. I mean, if he's on the team five, six years from now, I think most people would probably be surprised, right? Yeah. Go to that graphic, first-round quarterbacks. Go to that graphic from first-round

quarterbacks, let alone whenever you have Aaron Rodgers as your starting quarterback who's about to play an MVP year for at least on contract, allegedly for another three years. This is the first-round quarterbacks that have been drafted 2010 through 2020. For those that are asking, that are listening on SiriusXM, there's two in 2010, four in 2011, four in 2012, only one in 2013.

That was E.J. Manuel. Yeah, shout out. E.J. Manuel. In 2014, there was three. 2015, there was two. 2016, there was three. 2017, there was three. 2018, there was five. 2019, there was three. 2020, there was two. 2016, there was three. 2017, there was three. 2018, there was five. 2019, there was three. 2020,

there was four. That's just basically a rundown of first-round quarterbacks that get drafted to their team. Here we are 10 years later. The amount of quarterbacks that are left on their roster still. From 2010, zero. 2011, zero. 2012,

zero. 2013, zero. 2012, zero. 2013, zero. E.J. Manuel did not work out. 2014, zero. 2015, zero. 2016, zero. Now, 2017 had Patrick Mahomes and Deshaun Watson. Who knows what's going on with Deshaun Watson's situation in Houston?

Allegedly, there was teams interested before all the allegations came out that were absolutely terrible. Justice, we hope, will be served to the umpt degree or whatever. We hope justice is served over there. That's terrible. But Patrick Mahomes just locked in for 10 years. Okay, he has a 10-year, $500 million deal or whatever. He's going to be there. So that will remain in the 2017 draft.

In the 2018 draft, Sam Darnold with the Jets, he's gone. Lamar Jackson with the Ravens, he's gone. Lamar Jackson with the Ravens, he's still there. Josh Allen with the Bills, he's still there. Probably going to get a long-term deal up there if we had to guess. And Baker Mayfield just got his fifth-year option picked up by the Cleveland Browns. 2019, Kyler and Daniel Jones, how will that turn out three years from now? Interesting.

And then 2020, who knows? So, long-term, if any first-round quarterback is on the team six years later, to your point, AJ, massive amount of success. Now, to be on the same team that you have an MVP quarterback, I think it's got to go – I think the chances of him surviving have got to go way, way, way, way down. But if he ends up being a stud for Green Bay,

how awesome would his story be in the long run? You would probably be a part of the doc. Yeah. You would be a part of the doc. I'd pat him on the back and say, hey, listen, it was never about you. Yeah, because Jordan Love did not deserve to be in the situation. It was never about you. It really isn't on his end.

Terrible for him. Yeah. He's hated by a lot of people. Yeah. Teddy Bridgewater has been traded from the Carolina Panthers one year after being signed to the Carolina Panthers to be their quarterback of the future in the Matt Rule era to the Denver Broncos for a sixth-round draft pick, adding competition to Drew Locke,

who they're not 100% sure is going to be their guy going forward or not. To clear up a—I misspoke in the last hour. Drew Locke's second-round draft pick didn't have a fifth-year option, actually, so they are just trying to figure out whether or not he's the guy going forward. Drew Locke, Teddy Bridgewater, as of right now, will be battling out as a quarterback position in Denver Broncos for the Denver Broncos organization. Michael Lombardi has come out and tweeted that he thought this would happen a month ago.

A lot of people, Chicago Bears fans are unhappy that Andy Dalton is a Chicago Bear when Teddy Bridgewater was potentially out there. That's disrespectful to Andy Dalton. Have a little bit of respect, although Teddy Bridgewater could be a hell of a player and was an MVP like player when he was with Minnesota. Then he goes to the Jets for like $250,000

signing bonus. Then he goes down to the Saints, wins a bunch of games, goes over to Carolina. He gets moved on from with a Sam Darnold trade because the new owner new head coach new gm kind of want to figure out what they want to do he's now in denver seven pick overall for the carolina panthers still remains ninth overall pick tomorrow night for the broncos still remains nobody has a clue what's going to happen i guess there's an update now on the contract situation uh per adam schefter the broncos are acquiring quarterback teddy bridgewater on a restructured contract the panthers will convert seven million of the 10 million guaranteed into a paid bonus leaving a one-year three million

fully guaranteed contract for denver carolina clears about five million of space while adding pick 191 which was the six round pick in return so for the denver broncos they have three million fully guaranteed for teddy bridgewater next year two million dollar contract uh for drew lock five million dollars in a quarterback and the number nine overall pick nobody knows what they're going to do with it aj a lot has happened i don't know if we've gotten a chance to fully digest it but uh here we are one day before the draft and action starting to pick up well reading that tweet it seems to make sense for both sides. For the Broncos, yeah, if I can pick up Teddy Bridgewater, maybe add some competition with Drew Locke,

maybe Drew Locke can learn a few things from him, and we'll see what happens. And you'll have to pay him $3 million. Now, the Panthers, you would think, man, we're going to pay $7 million of this dude's salary just to ship him off. But when it says there they gained $5 million cap space in what they pick up, the 191st pick. Okay. Seems to work out alright.

Well, and they'll have to pay that at some point. At some point, everybody's moving money to some way, but it feels like all parties involved wanted to make this happen. The interesting thing now is, they moved Teddy Bridgewater because they didn't want there to be a conflict of interest with Sam Darnold. Is that right? So they didn't want Sam to have to compete with Teddy Bridgewater, or they wanted to do Teddy Bridgewater because they didn't want there to be a conflict of interest with Sam Darnold. Is that right? So they didn't want Sam

to have to compete with Teddy Bridgewater or they wanted to do Teddy Bridgewater a favor by moving on? And should Drew Locke Drew Locke or Sam Darnold? Who's had who's had more success? Oh, you know, I guess it's like you got to do the potential thing.

I guess you got to do the potential thing. I guess you got to do the potential thing. It's like so Teddy goes from the Carolina Panthers want to move on from Teddy, I assume, to give Teddy a fresh start and everything like that, but also probably because they want Sam Darnold to feel maybe like, hey, this is your team now, pal. And give him all the reps, too. They don't want to have to split reps with Sam Darnold. I doubt Teddy, if Teddy was still there,

I'm sure he would want to be taking reps in camp and want to prove that, hey, I can still be the starter. I've only seen Drew Locke one time. It was at the draft. I saw all his boys. Feels like he's a cool dude. The potential, whenever he's playing, he looks unbelievable. But the same things are being said about Sam Darnold, right?

I've never met him either. I've never seen his boys. I have no idea. They're saying his potential is unbelievable. It's like Drew Locke, Sam Darnold, one organization's like, let's try to empower. Now, granted, they might draft a quarterback and completely flip this entire narrative that I'm currently saying on its head.

Like, they might draft a young quarterback that they don't, and they make $5 million out of this thing. Maybe it's completely wrong what I'm about to say, but it feels like the Panthers are like, all right, Sam, we're going to give you at least an opportunity here to go. The Denver Broncos now at this point with this many years into it feels like the Panthers are like, all right, Sam, we're going to give you at least an opportunity here to go. The Denver Broncos now at this point with this many years into it are like, Drew, listen, you're going to have to earn this thing to keep it going.

Fascinating, fascinating approaches there by both sides. I guess it's a first year there for Sam Darnold, so they're maybe still in the honeymoon phase where for Drew Locke it's different. But I don't know which one you would say has been more of a success right now. Don't you – I still feel like Drew Locke's being judged too harshly. Me too, by the way. He's only played two seasons. Mitt, you're back there.

You were a Broncos fan for like a year and a half, and then you became a Cowboys fan. There's a couple games where Drew Locke dominated. Lit it up. Houston, I think, like two years ago or something like that, is when he came on the scene. Then there's obviously the memes and the gifs or whatever. And I guess because he was a second-round pick, he doesn't get as much leeway because he was a second-round pick. He was at the scene. Then there's obviously the memes and the gifs or whatever. And I guess because he was a second-round pick,

he doesn't get as much leeway because it was a second-round pick. He was at the draft, too, and he was the one that dropped that everyone was looking at like, oh, look at Drew Locke. And his boys were cool about it. His boys were cool. The big thing about Drew Locke that I would say is he's a big team and camaraderie guy. I think last year really threw him off. You remember the Broncos had that QB situation where he wanted to take

everyone's mask off, and that ended in them starting a receiver at quarterback. Oh, okay. They had to run off the field. Oh, okay. Yeah, during the walkthrough. Yeah. The day before the game, they were told the entire quarterback position has got to run off the field.

And by the way, nobody that is even associated with them can play tomorrow, so we've got to actually get somebody who hasn't played quarterback since they were at Wake Forest their junior year. And they don't know anybody on the team or the roster. And for Sam Darnold, he's been under Gase, who is a person who people say, once you get away from Gase, your career is going to take off. I just think Drew Locke. I mean, Denver Broncos fans, obviously, I assume they might be ready to move on.

And I don't know how they feel about this. I think one Broncos fans, obviously, I assume they might be ready to move on. And I don't know how they feel about this. They might. I think one Broncos fan tweeted me, and I don't know if they are the sample of the entire Broncos fan base, but they're like, feels like we're just getting right back into the quarterback carousel here. How many years does Teddy have? Just one year? This is just a one-year thing?

He has two left on his current contract. But they restructured. How'd they restructure it? Will they have to pick up the third year for Teddy? There is so much going on. Everybody's just trying to find a guy. Everybody just wants to find a guy, and they hope they can find a guy

to move guys and do things. But I think Drew Locke, I mean, who's going to win, Drew Locke or Teddy Bridgewater? I assume Teddy Bridgewater. Oh, yeah. Just because Teddy Bridgewater is a lot more. But what if Drew Locke comes in and lights it the fuck up in camp?

And what, Teddy's just the backup there? And they're like, well, Teddy's been a great backup in the past. And then Teddy, though, was looking for a trade because he didn't want to be a backup. Teddy Bridgewater, I'm happy you found a new home. I wish you would have went somewhere you would have been able to start, but this feels like this is going to be a bit of a clusterfuck to figure out. Teddy's starting to go on that Fitzpatrick run.

Yeah. More like Tyron. He's unlucky as hell. Un Fitzpatrick run. Yeah. More like Tyron. Tyron Taylor. He's unlucky as hell. Unlucky, unlucky, unlucky. Hey, if you're Drew Locke, would you rather the team bring in Teddy Bridgewater or would you rather them take a QB number one? Well, take QB number one, you're out. I know.

Then it's like, okay, well, my best case scenario, I start this first year, the rookie's not good enough, and I can showcase myself to the rest of the league. But with Teddy, if there's a competition, you could win the job and try to hopefully prove that you are the franchise qb you were never a part of a quarterback competition team right brett and aaron were never actually in a competition no see that's what i'm talking about though brett was always the guy this is the backup i think you i don't know i just feel it's good for the team and it even gives the quarterbacks like a little bit of an out when they're talking to their teammates or friends it's like hey i'm we're not making this decision

this is the guy let's go ahead and do that it kind of gives them as opposed to trying to win over an entire locker room okay and somebody else trying to win over an entire locker room because the quarterback that's what you got to do and then a decision is made and it's like automatically people are gonna be like well i just think that's a messy thing, but it's the NFL. I guess everybody can just handle it. I think about the locker room at all times. That's kind of my immediate thought is like when I was in the NFL, it felt like teams that were good, great locker room.

Locker room got along. When we stunk, I'll tell you what, locker room hated each other. How do you make locker room hate each other? Well, you divide them right in half. How do you do that? Well, here's one quarterback, here's another quarterback. It's just I feel like that's bad business personally i'm with you i would like to see somebody dive into the the stats and look it up and see if like what's the best record a team has had coming off a training camp where they had an open qb competition

where someone was named a starter like a week or two before week one like has anyone had a ton of success with that well and then you automatically go well if they're having a competition that means they didn't feel good about either quarterback so how good were either quarterback you know like there's always excuses and deeper stats i can look into it but i just don't know how that is conducive to building a team which is what you need in football you need like a team team you need to find you need defined roles and a defined vision of what this is hey like what a great leader a great coach does he gets everyone going in the same direction from all different walks of life and however creative way they can do that to keep people engaged. But if you have two guys vying to be

the most important position in this billion dollar, billions and billions of dollar franchise. Yeah. Like there's just too many questions everywhere. Like, Oh, how'd it go today, man? Who do you think the starter is going to be today? Like the whole team's talking back and forth and they all secretly or openly have their favorite who they think should be the starter, too. And by the way, it's not just the players. It's the coaches. It's the athletic trainers.

And it's players asking coaches, like, Coach, man, when are they going to name a starter, man? Like, that's all the media keeps asking here. We all see. We all see, don't we? We all see. There's a lot of that that will start happening. It's not just players, what I was saying there.

Even advertising people who are talking to local companies are like, we all hope, obviously, we all hope that blah, blah, blah is our starter, but we don't know. I feel like by naming one person a starter and saying, hey, you're the starter, you're empowering that person, you're not putting down the other person either. The other person doesn't understand. It's like, okay, I'm back. We want you to be a starter, starter though we want you to take every rep

obviously if things uh don't work out as well you're gonna get an opportunity like i just i don't know i might that's why i'm not a gm though so i maybe i shouldn't talk about it but i feel like that is a very important fucking thing that doesn't get talked about and that's why the saints doesn't make any sense either it's like why wouldn't you just tell tasem hill hey you're just gonna be the gadget guy going forward no matter what, where it seems as though they're telling him, hey, this is an open competition. It's you versus Jameis. I think Sean and Taysom are very tight.

Yeah. Because Taysom wouldn't agree to a four-year, $160 million, all-avoidable contract if they weren't boys, right? I assume those two are boys. And maybe he did tell him that, but the narrative outside isn't that Jameis is automatically going to be a starter. Maybe take pressure off of Jameis. Maybe that is something that we have no idea.

No clue. What does that mean? But I'm not a – I mean, you've got to figure it out somehow, I guess. You've got to find out who the starter is if you actually do believe in them both. But I think by doing that and creating that competition and making people better, I think you're potentially also taken away from a lot of other stuff that is vital to success.

I don't know. I think you can still get the starter better with good competition without potentially burying somebody, but I just think you have to define this is our guy. If he stinks, he won't be our guy. That's why we got this guy. I just don't know. If Teddy's going to won't be our guy. That's why we got this guy.

I just, I don't know. If Teddy's going to be your starter, as soon as you trade today, Teddy's going to be our starter. Drew Locke, who has done great things with us in the past, will back up. If Teddy struggles to learn the offense or figure out the offense or something like that, obviously Drew Locke will get his opportunity. Like, I think there's a statement that you can make there that really is just very quick and easy. And if it's Drew Locke, do the opposite.

That's what the Bears did with Dalton, even though Foles is still there. And bingo, they didn't do it with Mitchell Trubisky and Nick Foles. They said open competition. That became fucking all hell broke loose. I just, I feel like. I was going to say that, Pat. Is this something that the Bears should get a little bit of praise for? That, hey, they took that equation out.

We don't have to worry about our quarterback, whether you agree or not. Andy Dalton is our guy. We're going to try to figure out the rest of this mess we have around him. Well, and they didn't do that equation out. We don't have to worry about our quarterback. Whether you agree or not, Andy Dalton is our guy. We're going to try to figure out the rest of this mess we have around him. Well, and they didn't do that last year. So maybe they learned it and they have the same exact feeling that we have now. And I don't think I've ever been on a team that has had that, by the way. But my thought of that happening, you can see how it easily could be like in the locker room. You never want small groups chatting, okay, in the locker room. You never want small groups chatting.

When you can start getting small groups chatting, that is when it's like, alright, here's clicks here, here's clicks here. It's natural that people are going to just follow one particular style of leadership over another particular style of leadership. So you're kind of fucking both players, I think

actually. It's like, but whenever you say, this is the backup, there are like, okay, this is exactly how we'll look at it. And then, by the way, the teammates of the backup, whether it's Drew Locke is named a backup, they'll go, hey, Drew, hey, you'll get your chance. We don't need you. Like, there's still like a positive interaction for everybody. And even Drew can be like, hey, I got to work here. I got to do my thing. You know what I mean?

It's just, I don't know. We might be be too dumb though to to shape anybody's opinions on this entire thing i'm sure somebody will tell us that we're completely wrong and it's the nfl they're gonna be fucking adults well i think the last time that actually was successful was when the seattle paid matt flynn uh he was you know packers he had a huge game like uh towards the end of the year they paid matt flynn he was gonna be the starter. Then they drafted Russell. They still said Matt Flynn's going to be the starter, but, you know, Russell beat him out, and then it was like, okay. Now we've got to get rid of Matt Flynn.

Yeah, exactly. They said we've got to get rid of Matt Flynn now because we don't need anything in the locker room potentially. I just think that is the quarterback, immediate CEO of the team. We go as you go, bub. And listen, we can act like we're all the same. I'm the punter. I'm not going to act like we're the same.

But, like, everybody, we can act like we're the same. But we're going how you're going, bub. Our team is only as good as you are. So I just feel like that is a pretty vital thing. Brandon Bean, by the way. Yes. Josh Allen. After his second year.

After his first year, not great. After his second year, better. But nowhere near, like, people are thinking maybe Cam Newton will go to the Buffalo Bills, especially because of the way Josh Allen was playing at the time. And Brandon Bean was like, no, no, no. We want Josh to feel as if he has every opportunity to be successful. I just think that is a very, very important part. A listener just sent this in.

George Patton was the assistant GM in Minnesota when they drafted Teddy Bridgewater. Okay, so – Hey, that was when Teddy was balling. Was it a non-contact injury? Were you in the league when that happened? That made its way all the way to our training camp. Maybe it was

OTAs. I forget what it was, but it was like, damn, Teddy didn't deserve that. I believe I was just out, but I remember when it happened because it was giant news everywhere. Didn't they say guys were puking and everything? It was so nasty. Yeah, and it was – because he was just out of MVP conversation. Like he was going to turn everything around,

and then all of a sudden that happened. It was like, damn, Teddy, like you don't – to your point, very unlucky. Tyrod. Tyrod Taylor, yeah. The Finns haven't said anything, but do you think Tua's the guy down there and Jacoby's the backup, or do you think that's another competition? See, I mean, it's the Dolphins, so who knows.oby's the backup or do you think that's another competition see i mean it's the dolphins so who knows not to it's the dolphins i don't know man i mean i don't know what they're doing they're cutting money they're saving cash to do what they haven't brought

anybody in every big contract they signed is gone now we talked about this earlier aj these like miami and b flow is not going to do, and this isn't how they view it, but if B-Flow doesn't work, if, if. I think B-Flow is a great coach. I think he gets the most out of people. I don't know what their decision-making is going on there, but Miami feels like a team that could very easily, the next regime, be a goat farm like Tampa is right now.

You know what I mean? It's warm, no state income tax. Celebrity owners all around that are going to come to the game. Yeah, it's like, hey, listen, if you've been around the NFL, you're going to take a little bit of a haircut on the salary. We'll figure out how to do the bonuses. But just collect guys that have proven they made it in the NFL and at the end of their careers and want to kind of make a run at this thing,

like Tampa. Kansas City, I still – it's because Patrick Williams and Andy Reid are there they'll continue to do that but it feels like these teams that are in these cities desirable potential retirement cities I would do that I don't know why I don't know why you want it at this point but I don't think Miami's going to do that at all but I think for the Dolphins for that to even have a chance of happening Tua has to be like a top five QB in the league probably. Look at all these teams trying to find a quarterback and how many teams came out and tried to get Tom Brady last year.

Like how stupid is this? Yeah, that's allegedly not as many people. The market for Tom Brady is not as big as you would think it was. Should have been 30 teams. I was so mad. Do you remember how mad I was? Oh, yeah. People were calling me stupid.

Like I was getting called stupid on a regular basis for me saying, there is 28 teams that should be trying to sign Tom Brady makes your athletic trainers better, your equipment managers better, makes everything in the building better. If you get him in there, get him in there. Because I got a chance to see Peyton fucking up close. It's like, yo, everybody got better because Peyton was there. It's like, you got a guy, don't want to be the reason we lose. And then they're like, no, Tom doesn't have that big of a market. And Tampa Bay is like, really? All right.

What did he say? What did Bruce Arians say? He said, we would have brought back Jameis, but we were going to look behind the door or whatever, and then we looked behind the door and we saw Tom Brady was standing there. I mean, other than Tom Brady. And also Jameis, or also Teddy Bridgewater, too. But we would have brought – it's a wild time that he was even available.

I can't believe that 28 teams didn't want Tom Brady. I can't believe it. I honestly can't believe it, but I have a different thought than what a lot of other people do. They want younger quarterbacks and going to build within general George Patton of the Denver Broncos has released a statement acquiring Teddy Bridgewater adds competition experience and a strong veteran presence to our quarterback room. He's a talented player and leader who's had success in this league in a number of different situations. Being familiar with Teddy from Minnesota, he's going to compete and do everything he can

to help us win. Okay, so compete, compete, compete. Drew Locke and Teddy Bridgewater about the battle or not. Who's going to win the job? Who's going to win over the locker room? Are they going to win the job as well? Because if not, it's fucked. And does this change anything in what they were going to do early in the draft?

You know, there's no way Kyle Pitts makes it to nine right now. No chance. Jamar Chase might, though, if the Bengals don't take him. If they go alignment, unless the Finns take him. But the Finns probably go an offensive line, right? Isn't that what everybody's thinking? I think that's a smokescreen. Oh, you think the Dolphins are in the line game again like

they were last year? 100%. What is Tannenbaum saying? We know Tannenbaum's full of shit. What were you saying, AJ? Sorry, bud. No, I said, who does think the Dolphins want them if it's a smokescreen about the O-line? Let me clear something up very quick. I don't mean Tannenbaum's full of shit. I think Tannenbaum was used last year, though, as a smokescreen, potentially. I don't know

Tannenbaum personally, but I think he was potentially used last year as the smokescreen for the Tua thing. You think they're doing the same this year? Tannenbaum can be full of shit, but I think the Dolphins. There's a Dolphins fan, by the way. I think the Dolphins will take a weapon. You have to. Like last year, they took all O-linemen in the first round.

You have to give Tua a chance here. And Tua's biggest problem, what, is he wouldn't pull the trigger. Yeah. Play with Devontae Swaddle as well. Yeah, and Waddle. Yeah, but both of them came out and said, we like mad fuck Tua. Uh-oh. You might also want to have, like,

non-manty backfield with a mobile quarterback. You know, there's another situation. Like, Tua getting pulled for Fitz Magic. Okay, there's another locker room sitch. Okay, There's another locker room sitch. Okay. You got a locker room sitch there.

Everybody loves Tua is what we've heard. Everybody loves Fitz. When you bench Fitz and put in Tua and not even tell Fitz or Tua it's going to happen. And it just gets. I mean, there's a problem with that whole thing PR wise. And B-Flow wasn't happy that it got out or whatever. But then whenever Tua's playing. And in the fourth quarter when you need something,

you pull him and put Fitz in. I mean, you're automatically going to just separate the locker room. It's just automatically going to happen, whether you like it or not, and that's not a... That's not a conducive thing. Jacoby Brissett is Tua's backup right now, right? Yeah.

By the way, if Cam Hayward was not so rude in a just absurdly mean person and dumped somebody onto jacoby's knee jacoby and the indianapolis colts maybe win a fucking super bowl probably do he was slinging he was maybe in the mvp conversation without good then he got hurt couldn't move uh the year before that whenever he did not have a winning record at all he actually got brought in six days before the season started and said, hey, you're a certain quarterback or a guy just quit or whatever.

So he was retired. I'm so sorry. He did not quit. He retired because of injury. I've heard, by the way, he does enjoy the hell out of retirement. Congrats to Andrew Luck. But I think Jacoby Brissett, another great player. But will he potentially have to come in?

He will win over the locker room. I guess he was holding team meetings whenever he was the backup quarterback and everything like that. So there's another situation. Will Tua ever really get a chance? If Tua's your guy, you've got to give him every chance to succeed with these picks you have this year because you're not going to have these picks again. All right.

There is about 15 new text messages in the group text. i would assume that it all has to do with teddy bridgewater fandu sportsbook has put out odds here on what the broncos will do with their pick in the first round micah parsons plus 340 linebacker penn state um i've heard some things. He plays great football, obviously. They're talking about him being a top 10 linebacker pick. Very good. Patrick Sertain, plus 850. Rashawn Slater, plus 340. Does anybody know who that is?

Northwest. He's a stud. Yeah, big. Yeah, yeah. Him and Sewell. Fields at plus 750. Trey Lance, plus 750. J.C. Horn, plus 850.

Sertain, plus 850. Penne, Sewell, plus 950. Iertain plus 850. Penne Sol plus 950. I don't think he's going to be around. Zayven Collins, Matt Jones, Elijah Vera Tucker, who I'm just learning exists. Good for him. He's a shop romper. Hell yeah. Did you happen to see in there the tweet from MySportsUpdate?

No. What happened? So Teddy's now been traded twice. Once from the Jets, once from the Panthers. Both times because of Sam Darnold. He's got to fucking hate him. Oh, boy. At My Sports Update, Teddy Bridgewater, yep, 2018 Jets trade Bridgewater in training camp after using number three overall pick in Darnold.

See you, Teddy. You can go down to the Saints. And then 2021, see you later. Sam Darnold and Teddy Bridgewater. I wonder how their relationship is. Probably terrible. Have they ever talked to each other, you think? Well, if you remember Sam Darnold and Teddy Bridgewater. I wonder how their relationship is. Probably terrible. Have they ever talked to each other, you think? Well, if you remember Sam Darnold said, hey, listen, I love Teddy. I respect the hell

out of Teddy. Love that guy. We haven't heard Teddy's side of it, but, you know, Darnold has nothing but glowing things to say about him. Yeah, it sounds like Darnold and Teddy's got to come out. Darnold would be in a much more positive side of that relationship, it feels like. Come on, Perry and Teddy. You only got one chance.

This guy's won zero fucking games. All right, I'm motorbiking for the Saints. I'm winning almost MVPs in Minnesota. I came back from a gruesome injury, and this guy's just running me out of town. He stinks of football. He's, what, 14 years old still, this guy? Poor Teddy Bridgewater doesn't deserve that. I wonder how it all panned out four years from now. Will any of this matter?

I think there's a chance that Sam Darnold could still be really good. Me too. Oh, yeah. Good situation. When he was coming out of USC, I liked him, man. I liked how he played. He was mobile. He could move.

He's got a strong enough arm. I don't know. I just think he can get it done if he's in the right situation. Did you watch film? I remember when he was coming out of college, yeah, of course. you watch film wow who all was it who what are the other quarterbacks that came out in his class go to the first draft thing josh uh josh baker josh rosen and lamar because there was there was all this talk about uh sam donovan going number one overall and then right towards the end i know shepter came in right before the draft started and said it's baker right

didn't he say or the morning of, maybe? Yeah, and Baker obviously doing the Brett Favre thing was an awesome moment. I'm happy that happened. Sam Darnold could fucking stink, too. Oh, yeah. Of course he could, but I'm saying there's some people that I wouldn't want to hear but he couldn't fucking stink.

This guy could be a terrible football player. He could be. Listen, I'm not saying we have no idea, which is kind of the issue with the NFL, is even after seeing somebody play terrible football, you're like, yeah, he might be good, though, just bad situation. He might just completely stink in Carolina. And then guess what's happening again after next season with Carolina. All right, Sam, see you later, pal.

Thanks, Sam. We're going to go in. We're going to go somewhere else. Carolina will do that. Now, Sam might be unbelievable at football, and maybe the Gayson brother was holding him back like Tannehill was happening to him. But, boy, there's a chance he stinks, too. And Teddy Bridgewater, if I was him, it would be tough for me to be quiet.

Guy ran me out of New York, he stunk. Guy ran me out of Carolina, he stunk. What's he going to do, come the mile high? He stinks. There's a chance Teddy Bridgewater could have that moment, or maybe Sam will get good. Teddy played a whole damn season without Christian McCaffrey, too. I mean, you've got to cut him some slack.

Say what you said one more time. Teddy played the whole season without McCaffrey last year. McCaffrey played like two games. Yeah, so Sam Darn is getting quite a weapon back, a top-ten player in the NFL, Christian McCaffrey. Michael Lombardi just posted a view on this thing. Broncos could still take quarterback in the draft. Teddy starts for one year, Locke is number two and the pick is red shirt.

It makes for a good quarterback room. Yeah, we kind of, we, we agree with what Lombardi could have said there. Imagine they go nine. And this is what you mentioned. If you draft somebody at nine,

a quarterback, that's it's their job going forward. Unless it's Aaron Rogers and Jordan Love, but nine top 10 pick it's their job going forward. Would make for a very interesting quarterback competition for sure. I guess maybe since the Broncos have, I know, John Elway's history of drafting QBs and bringing them in, other than Peyton Manning hasn't been great.

Maybe they think, hey, we need to take a guy and then we need to make sure we give him time to develop into the QB we want him to be. And maybe Teddy's the guy to learn from. What if Drew Locke is that guy, though? That's what I think. If that's your plan and you want to register the guys, Lombardi says, I wouldn't have made the trade for Teddy.

I would have said, hey, let's have Drew play this year. And if we want to develop this guy behind him, give him reps in practice, maybe throw him in like week 11. Maybe they want Drew to learn from Teddy, though. Yeah. The veteran presence in the quarterback room. If they take a QB at nine, we know they don't.

Might as well just move on from Drew Locke now. That's why I think this makes the draft that much more interesting, especially if they're not going to take a quarterback. There's going to be other people coming up to take that pick. What size bag are you taking up into that attic for Draft Spectacular?

What do you mean? Cigar bag, the one you had for kentucky derby we saw on air uh i already have almost two of those bags packed for the trip but uh i got funny now you don't worry we'll be good they must think you're embezzling something yeah the amount of cubans showing up at the aj hawk house cubans no way man what you don't smell i don't need cigars no i don't i don't like like heavy heavy cigars i like you know medium heavy cubans what the hell is wrong with you dude oh dude i don't know man i don't know i boys eat congrats if you do do. But that was unbelievable that AJ just did that out of nowhere. That was really –

Self-conscious, though. AJ, I have a little bit of an issue with my tuxedo. Oh, wait. I just got what you took about Zeke and the heavy cigar. Yeah, heavy Cubans. You hate them. Oh, you just got it, huh? That's not what you meant immediately?

Wake up, dude. Okay, dude. We know how your brain works, bro. A dark-wrapped heavy cigar. Those are what are bitter, and those I do not like. Oh, Zito's bitter now? Yeah. What's wrong with you, AJ?

You guys are all going to hell. Everyone. No. Us. See you there, Paul. How do you body shame Zito and flip it into us going to hell? How dare you body shame Zito and flip it into us going to hell? How dare you? I never once crossed my mind to talk about Zito

when I talked about a heavy Cuban cigar. You don't even think about it. You just let it fly. Your brain doesn't even have to do it. It's your natural instinct. Anyways, my tuxedo thing. You know, sometimes you get the bear. Sometimes the bear gets you.

Oh, no. Well, it's not getting delivered until next Thursday. No. Sure. So has the wardrobe for everyone changed? Well, that's the thing. I think everybody's already done enough preparation. I'm going to have to figure this one out.

We'll figure it out. Do you got your tuxedo affiliated thing, AJ, or? Oh, man. Well, I'm looking right now, and it says arriving tomorrow by 10 p.m. so we'll see yeah I'll tell you what I had that same situation there with the wife and the Amazon I was like hey when's that thing is it getting in today so before the

flight or whatever she goes let's get in Thursday we're looking and the thought was like all right I'll have Mitt fly down the morning with the thing or whatever and then we check the date it's actually next Thursday oh shit so with the thing or whatever. And then we checked the date. It's actually next Thursday. Oh, shit. It's actually next Thursday.

So I'll figure it out, I guess. Yeah, we'll figure it out. Those are back orders? Bro, I assume they don't have a lot of what I ordered. What was it? You can say what it is, right? Well, I'm not going to be able to find it. It was this incredibly dope tuxedo tank top jacket collab. I mean, it was fucking awesome. Leather?

Huh? Leather? No, no, no, no, no. Not downtown, but no, no, no. It was actually like linen. It was like a linen. Nice. Nice. Nice. Nice. Breathable. There might be one down there. I think they had to custom make it. I think it was one of those like, we'll say it's for sale, and then if anybody actually orders this thing, we'll actually have to create it and ship

it, so that would have been awesome. Next time. Golly. So does everybody got their tuxes ready or no? Oh, yeah. Oh, you do? Okay. Good to go.

Sure. Tampa feels like a city that has some tuxedo-related shit. I would think so. Find some Party City or something. What was that? Dump. What's that? Did you make the sound?

Somebody made an A. I kind of did, yes. You don't think Tampa's big tuxedo? I don't think so. They have a tailor. There probably is a tailor that could sew something up. I don't know. You don't think that. I mean, we drive past in Nordstrom.

Is there like a tent factory you can get for Zeke? Oh, come on. You got to stand up and come over the back and go say that. That's the worst part. AJ opened the door. This is your fault. Oh, AJ's laughing? Yeah.

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. AJ! I should take back. I did not. You guys are terrible. Oh, fuck. AJ, why did you text Nick to say that?

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