The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 404 - Draft Day, Dan Orlovsky, Daniel Jeremiah, AJ Hawk

Episode Date: April 29, 2021

Huge show today as tonight is the first round of the 2021 NFL Draft. Pat and the boys are more than ecstatic about it. Make sure you check out The Second Annual Draft Spectacular tonight on YouTube.com/ThePatMcAfeeShow starting at 7:30 Eastern. Pat and the boys jump right into the latest of draft rumors. Pat has gotten some breaking news "per sources" and immediately begins struggling not to burst. Dan Orlovsky came on to discuss the latest in breaking news and his opinions regarding the Quarterbacks expected to go at the top of this draft. After Dan gives his piece, Pat and the boys continue the conversation with NFL legend AJ Hawk. With much of the conversation around the latest 49ers rumors regarding their draft pick and latest trade rumors. NFL Network insider Daniel Jeremiah joins the program to discuss the process of making a mock draft, and how he expects the draft to play out this year. To finish off the show you Pat, AJ and the boys give their reactions to rumors surrounding the 3rd overall pick as well as the future of last years NFL MVP and friend of the show Aaron Rodgers.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello. Draft Spectacular Day. Okay, that's all you need to know. 730, 10 night, Eastern Standard Time, youtube.com forward slash the Pat McAfee show. Franchises are changing. And with Draft Spectacular's happening all across the country, there is so much popping off leading up to this thing. We have conversations, there's rumors, there's speculation, there's news breaking, there's a lot going on. I think today's the day where you'll say, you know what? Happy I listened to that dumbass show. Not every show's great, but today I think it's a good one. Be a friend. Tell a friend if you like this by the end of it. We'll see you tonight. YouTube.com forward slash The Pat McAfee Show, 7.30 p.m. Eastern Standard Time. Let's get to it. When I woke up this morning, I know you felt just like me.

You took a big sniff. The air seemed to be a bit pure. And it's not because we're down in Tampa Bay at the Vandal Beach House in anticipation for tomorrow night's Friday Night Smackdown, which is going to be legendary. No, no. When I took that deep breath in this morning, oh, the air made me feel so damn good. It felt as if the oxygen had gone in through my nose to my brain to every part of my body and made it feel incredible. The dopamines seemed to be flowing. The shit was the greatest shit I have had in some time.

Then I brushed my teeth. I seemed to hit every crevice of a tooth in a beautiful fashion. The vitamins hit perfectly. Ladies and gentlemen, it was like the night before Christmas last night. I could not sleep. It is. We all just got a text message. Thank you for that text message. It is NFL Draft Spectacular Day.

Hey, there has been so much chatter about what could possibly take place this evening. Dreams are going to come true. Lifelong dreams in hours and hours and hours of hard work will come to a fruition point where they will see millions of dollars thrown at them to play a sport they have played their entire life. Franchises

will hope to make decisions that will affect their cities for decades in a positive fashion as opposed to horrible fashion. Teams could fuck it up tonight. Teams could ruin their fan bases' hopes and dreams tonight with one swift Roger Goodell announcement,

and we will be following along with all of the action starting at 7.30 Eastern Standard Time, youtube.com forward slash The Pat McAfee Show. Our annual Draft Spectacular is back, Jack, with big guests, surprise appearances, conversations, and reactions to everything happening with the NFL this evening. Yes! Shout out to Traeger.

They are the presenting sponsor. They watched last year. They said, have no idea how we could tie into this thing, but we'd like to Traeger. They are the presenting sponsor. They watched last year. They said, have no idea how we could tie into this thing, but we'd like to be a part of it. The tux-related costume that was mandated

just a few days ago will remain in place. Here we go. We will respect the draft. We will dress up nice. We will have that whole thing. And there will be a grill cooking up some magic tonight, buddy.

Shout out to Traeger. We are so excited. Right now, there are smoke screens going everywhere. There's bullshit being tweeted. There's sources telling us stuff that are telling potential other people's stuff. Then those people are hearing other stuff from other sources. Let's just get right to it. Our sources have told us

that Mac Jones ain't going three. What? My God. Listen, I know this sounds crazy, and I'm not one to have sources or to reach out to people to tell me information because I know that I'm probably going to just do what I did right there.

Spilled beans. Could not get it out. Aaron Rodgers is allegedly, was potentially asked for in a trade by the San Francisco 49ers. The number three overall pick, Jimmy Garoppolo, some other players and everything, allegedly was offered to Green Bay. We have no idea if this is real or not. That's a tweet from at Bill underscore Michaels.

And when Willie Mike is talking. Oh, yeah. People, listen. And that was a report from at PA on the mic, who I believe is a Green Bay Packer. I think he's the Minnesota Vikings PA guy. Okay. So maybe he's stirring the pot here from whatever he heard. So that hit the internet this morning.

Right. Could lead off the show with that. We kind of just did because that's a big deal. It's Aaron. And once again, to reiterate my point i won't ask aaron if this was happening no because i don't want to know like because if you tell me information i'm going screaming okay that's just what's going to happen it's been that way my entire life that's just how it goes i understand there's some people that probably don't talk to me as much as they should at this particular hey no love lost here pal i understand i don't want to me as much as they should at this particular. Hey, no love lost here, pal. I understand.

I don't want no information. Sources told me this morning. Saying, yeah, listen, you can say whatever you want. I don't care. Yeah. Because as soon as it was told me, I was like, I feel like I should know this. I feel like I should know this. You should not have told me this.

I'm going to say it. Don't worry about it. Mac Jones ain't going three. Oh, my God. Hey, this is what I was told. It's starting. It's starting. Is this complete bullshit?

What we're going to do tonight for the Draft Spectacular at Boston Connors here. Ty Schmidt is here. I believe there's a Mad Mel in. He's around here somewhere. Mad Mel is around somewhere. I think he'll make. Is Jason Glazer? I believe Jason Glazer is soaking up the rays.

So he's here as well? I think so. Oh, my God. I think so. So those are no surprise guests there. Those are going to be here. They will be here. They are slotted, scheduled, promoted to be in attendance this evening.

Draft Spectacular. That is awesome news. There are some big guests that will be joining us that have not been talked about yet. But for the Draft Spectacular, what we were going to do is we were going to have the first three picks that were locked in okay trevor lawrence sack wilson mac jones okay we're going to have the first three picks we're going to watch it live we're going to watch it live we're going to react to it okay okay good start hey okay what we thought okay okay what we thought then if four maziano and fowler reported yesterday that they were drafting kyle pitts but that just

got reported yesterday. So we have to wonder if that's real or not. So we were actually going to turn off the TV for pick four. Okay, we're going to turn off the TV for pick four. Zito Foxy, the boys back in Indianapolis, would then basically be relaying the information to us. We wouldn't know. So it would be an actual live reaction. By the way, it would be a Traeger girl opening up.

I mean, it was a good idea. We're going to do that after pick three now we gotta go after pick two trevor lawrence one everybody assumes he's locked in there's been no real shit talked about that zach wilson going to the jets at two there's been no real shit talked about that there's been no fake smoke screens who knows if that if that goes up which by the way could happen which is why it's so awesome. But at three now, with what we're being told, I mean, it seems like Trey Lance is going at three. Yeah. And if Trey Lance goes at three, what's that mean for Mac Jones? What's that mean for Kyle Pitts, allegedly locked in at number four to the Falcons? What if Mac Jones is some team's desired quarterback because he's like Rain Man

and they see him not go to San Fran, which has been a lock. Out of nowhere, we didn't understand it either. Listenin fields we thought was the lock no no all of a sudden mac jones no no trey lance is potentially in there no mac jones is that was the way this whole thing was covered now we're getting told this morning day of draft like no no no no it's it is the kid from north dakota is what we're being told so i have no idea what's that gonna what that does but the the domino effect the ripple effect of this thing now what if new england is like wait we wanted mac jones he everybody's saying he's like tom brady we we've tried we tried uh the potential running quarterback

changing up our option our offense but for us right now we don't need hey we need a a genius who is a precision passer who everybody says is gets along with everybody in the locker room, and also Nick Saban and Bill Belichick are like best friends or something like that. Tied at the hip. So what if at four, where the Atlanta Falcons were definitely taking Kyle Pitts, all of a sudden if Mack Jones is not selected by the Niners, that four pick gets automatically very, very interesting. So there is a chance now, if this Trey Lance thing happens at 3 that we

were told. Okay? It wasn't just me, by the way. The boys were all like, we heard it. I got ears. Because there was actually a... Wait. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa! So there's a lot that could happen. We can't wait for tonight. We're so thankful for those of you that will choose to spend time with us this

evening. It's going to be a long fucking night, and we understand if you leave and come back. dude you gotta do we're gonna be stuck here so we'll be here for the entire fucking thing from 7 30 all the way through we will be by the way big guests coming on 7 40 yeah general manager who does have a draft pick in this draft in the first round will be joining us at 7 40 okay so that's. Okay, so that's a little thing. But then we got a couple of big-time guests joining us. The only thing, we'll be stuck through this entire thing. And there's going to be times during this draft where we're going to get very bored.

I mean, there is going to be picks. There'll probably be a run of four picks, five picks there where we probably never even heard of the dude that got drafted. We're excited for him, though. Hey, we'll celebrate and everything like that. But what we're saying is we're going to be here the time and i think there's gonna be content that is gonna come out of tonight that people will enjoy i think there is an evening that will be memorable for everybody and uh we're fucking pumped up about it shout to zito shout to foxy for getting this whole thing

done down here the boys are back in indianapolis at tone digs covid cowboy and gumpy the hosts of the hammer don show which, by the way, back to being hot after a one-day slump. They lost everybody money that one day. Yeah, they did. Especially that COVID Cowboy. He rode his horse right from the cashier right into the fucking toilet. Come on.

Right into the glue factory. COVID Cowboy. What a bummer that guy was. But he bounced back in beautiful fashion. Oh, yeah. He's fucking relaxed. Okay, I'm just saying, hey, this is what people are saying. Not me, by the way.

I'm just, you know, I'm an observer and reporter. It's great that you guys are back to Hammer Down Boys. And with the news that we did call you before the show went live, because, you know, that's something we had. That number three pick changing is a big deal, is it not, Hammer Down Boys? Huge, because a couple weeks ago I got Trey Lance at plus 290. He's now down to plus 150 to go number three overall. Mac Jones still sitting at the favorite, but those odds are changing quickly.

And then the odds with Kyle Pitts, his overrunner used to be five and a half. Hey, are we changing those odds? Uh-oh. Sure sounds like it. Sharks or sharps, whatever you want to call yourself, you are. Okay. How about that? Now we're in a game.

So the draft spectacular we thought was just a nightly event. Here we are early fucking. Hold on. Hold on. We're going to change some odds here. Now, we could be wrong. And we will have, by the way, we will learn that live on the air that we potentially fucked a lot of things up

for people. But we're just telling you what we were told by somebody who I think does know. I think does know. Right. I think does know. So it changes. If you're saying it's changing rapidly,

I believe there was a bet on FanDuel that we saw that was Lawrence Wilson, Lance Pitts. Yep. Now that those odds were massive. Those are changing, I think, as we look at them on FanDuel. But there's a lot of bets on tonight's action. I assume you guys are planning on raking in back there? Yeah, I've got about 25 bets that I'll talk about on Hammer Down today.

But to your point, with the information that you got okay you got information from a credible source and then when you look at fandle and the first four uh picks correctly went from plus 360 to plus 30 or sorry plus 230 with it being lance at three and pits at four and then lance dropping so much for the number three overall pick when you look at the odds dropping plus this information you got three overall pick. When you look at the odds dropping, plus the information you got, it kind of lends you to believe the information you got might be right. Well, but what if people are listening to us as if we are right? Because of how excited we were with the information.

That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying here. No, no, we're not that. We're nowhere near that. We're sports teachers. Ain't nobody listen to nowhere near that. We're sports stooges. Ain't nobody listening to us like that. We're just trying to give our viewers and listeners like, hey, we're just telling you what we're telling. You're part of the team here, okay?

Every sports stooge out there, I feel like, is legitimately part of our team, which is why it's a pretty cool thing. This is not stock market advice. This is not advice. No. We're just telling you what we were told, and this is how we are going to act. So if you would like to act accordingly, feel free to act accordingly, because that is how we are going to act. So when you're watching tonight, that is what you're seeing,

is somebody who was told one particular thing at that pretty important pick. And if that hits, the celebration. Oh, man. Oh, by us? Oh, by us? But what are you doing with that fourth pick back there, gambling-wise? What is the line telling us with that fourth pick? Because let's say Trey Lance does go to three overall.

Mac Jones potentially what? Patriots at four, right? Immediately everybody's thought? So if you think that, Mac Jones is plus 2,200 right now to go number four overall. What if it's to the Saints? The odds have been getting worse. Bingo. What if it's to the Saints? The odds have been getting worse. Bingo.

What if it's to the Saints? Oh, there's an echo. Let me see if you can actually. I know there's somewhere on here that you can get teams first pick and who they're going to pick. I could find the Saints for you and see what we're going to pay out on that. All right. We'll bounce back to you guys here soon. Gumpy, shout out to you for that Death Row record shirt, dude.

Honestly, that is awesome, Gumpy. You are the best, dude. I don't know where you guys here soon. Gumpy, shout out to you for that Death Row record shirt, dude. Honestly, that is awesome, Gumpy. You are the best, dude. I don't know where you even found that. I respect it so much. Okay, so Jay Glazer is reporting. I don't have the Saints' first overall pick here. Do they not have a one? Don't come back to me.

They don't have the Saints. They don't have for the Saints' pick to be correct, so I'm not going to find that. Hey, thank you for that type of honesty, Diggs. Way to own it there. Jay Glazer is reporting, by the way. Okay. We love Jay Glazer.

Love him. Yeah. He's the man. Jay Glazer is the man. He's reporting that the Saints are trying to move all the way up to the top 10. Yeah. Then the Saints just tweeted out the looky eyes things. Oh, they have the eyes

and then jay glazer quote tweeted this thing and said it's not for a qb so whoa is that cal pits then which is what everybody right cal pits is the guy that everybody says is a lock is that who they're going for what uh is if it's not for a qb and then by the way jay glazer i think is potentially tweeting for the saints as well it seems like they are in a it feels like the like, yeah, what he's saying is fucking pretty real there with the eyeballs thing. Like, I respect good social media from the team there. Like, hey, we are trying to mix up. This might all be bullshit. Yeah.

This might all be bullshit. Jay Glazer, though, been around a long time. Long time. That's right. And if Jay Glazer's been covering, I think, 26 drafts or something, if he's putting something out on draft day, Jay's got a pretty good feeling about it. Pay attention. He ain't messing around. something out on draft day jay's got a pretty good feeling about it pay attention you ain't messing around i think so i think he's good i think he's got a good feeling about it jay knew jay knew jay knew jay knew listen so so if the

saints tried it what if they're trying to get mac now jay said not for a qb and maybe the saints did tell him we're trying to move and and maybe they said no it's not for qb or whatever because they do have jameson tasem hill on that four year voidable one hundred and six million dollar contract. Completely voidable. It's not real. It's fake. So like the the thought is, is this Mac Jones effect? Is this the Justin Fields effect? Is this Kyle Pitts? Is what what is this? And number three carries a lot of weight on everything else that happens in the NFL for the next 10 years, by the way, for the next fucking 10 years. If could you imagine if Bill Belichick is obsessed with Mac Jones for some reason? I don't know.

It hasn't come out that he is. Right. And I don't know if anything would ever come out. But let's say Bill Belichick is infatuated with Mac Jones. They can't get the four or they can't get the three. But allegedly they've talked to Atlanta and the Carolina Panthers. Four through 14 apparently is what's being reported. That they know what it's going to take to get up to one of those picks. And Stephon

Gilmore allegedly is on the block and who knows if Atlanta would want Stephon Gilmore with where they're at. I mean if they don't trade Julio and they keep Matt Ryan it means they're going to be a veteran team so they're going to at least try to go for it I guess. So who knows how they're going to do it. But imagine if Bill Belichick gets Mac Jones and

Mac Jones is everything that they crack him up to be or whatever and they go on a fucking terror in the AFC like that this is a big what happens at three is a big deal oh yeah we won't be able to judge it for a couple years but what happens at three is a massive deal for everybody else in the NFL well and it's brutal as a Patriots fan just because I've set myself up so poorly with all the hope I have with hey we got to get the QB we got to get the QB so if we don't it's going to be a massive letdown. But for the Saints, there's probably no way they can get to four

because you wouldn't think the Falcons would trade with, you know, an interdivision, you know, opponent so that they could get up there to get their player. Oh, you got it. Source said. More source. Sources have told us. Hey, hold on.

Oh, no. Oh, no. Oh, no. Uh-oh. Already? So what's going to happen now? Hey, hold on. Oh, no. Oh, no. Oh, no. Uh-oh. Already? So what's going to happen now? Are you kidding?

Does nobody know? Is Pat Jones going one? What is going on? This is why I don't tap. Hey, listen. I said it from the jump. That's right. This is why I don't get into this game.

It's also why, you know, the last two months, everything that's been talked about means fucking nothing. Because of what just happened. Yeah. I mean, what time is it? 12, 19, and three seconds more than the clock that we have. Uh-huh. Which I have to remember for the hard-out at the end of the show.

By the way, for some reason, this clock, every second is like 1.0001 seconds. Yeah. So, like, after a week. yeah so like after after a week no i think after a week like that 1.001 becomes like a one second delay then after like another week it becomes because it's been what it's been one second added each week we're a third week it's three seconds so whatever the math is for this the second thing it is off by whatever each second is actually 1.000 whatever and so it gets off by one second every single week man hadn't even

considered you know when we're three months into this thing and that thing's 35 seconds off and you're having to all right so ladies and gentlemen it's a ceiling. Orlovsky will be joining us in about four minutes and 24 seconds. Here we go, Danny. All right, quick math there. But no, this, what, 35 minutes or like 45 minutes, basically. Yeah. It's changed since then. Source who's a pretty good source says, hold on, hold on.

People are moving. But this might be because we are living in an entirely different set of circumstances right now than we were 45 minutes ago remember when we woke up this morning we thought niners mac jones yeah read a tweet niners aaron rogers yeah got a got a piece of information oh niners trey lance this is potentially all true, by the way, at the time. And then as it kind of evolves, that's why the draft is so beautiful. It is so beautiful. Now, listen, I don't know how people watch, okay, and Diggs loves it,

and I assume Connor enjoys it. And I feel like people have seen at this point, I'm a massive NFL fan. I can't do. Two, okay, I'll go early too all right but like i announced the third round draft pick that is the only third round draft pick i will ever watch live happen right yeah yeah i don't know how people watch it all the way through i have no idea how you know the fact that you do i appreciate like i the fact that maybe it's somebody on your college team that you hope gets it. Like, I appreciate that you're pulling for them that hard.

I just get very bored because I have no idea what these fucking guys are. OK, and I should follow it closer. I understand because of job. And I rely on people that are much smarter than us to do that. And I'll just kind of talk to them and see what their thoughts are and get a read for it or whatever. And also listen to interviews and see what I do down the road when they make it into men's league. But this first 10 picks, I think, tonight could be amazing television. Like, I honestly believe that there's a chance it could be explosive tonight.

Now, with that being said, this could just be so fucking boring. And that is the draft. That's the draft, baby. That's what it is. Do you think it's possible that the information you were given, that some other teams now may be privy to that information and will see that's what's causing the Saints to be like, okay, fuck, we're at 29 or 28.

Let's go get into the top 10. If Mac Jones is potentially not going at three, that opens up a lot of things for a lot of people. There's no way. or 28 like let's go get into the top 10 if if mac jones is potentially not going at three like that opens up a lot of things for a lot of people there's no way that anybody has any clue what's gonna happen huh no no sound like it well and i read i read an article i think it was last week it was a tweet that was saying like over the course of the shanahan uh lynch era like if they've wanted to keep things close to the chest, they do. So all the stuff you're hearing, it's kind of unusual that all this stuff is coming out.

And so many people seem to have an idea of what the 49ers are doing. How about Shanahan, though, and Lynch walking right into that press conference, just being like, this is what we do. Don't worry about it. They gave away nothing. Yeah. And crushed the press conference it they gave away nothing yeah and crushed the press they gave away nothing it was i don't know how easy that would be i don't think that's easy like i think that press conference that shanahan and lynch put together one of the most impressive

speakings speakings oh yeah oh yeah i've ever seen just because they had they sat out there i think for a bit too a half hour they were out there for a bit so that's just like for instance i enjoy watching speakers speak like i very i always have i i even if i don't understand or appreciate the message i i want to see like how they handle delivering the message right like that's a that's a big literally chuck pagana's first team meeting as we're walking out of the team meeting we both have to walk the same direction uh to the special team's room into the head coach's office so after the team meeting you go to your individuals or whatever and i go uh eight out of ten pretty good start there and he was like excuse me i'm like

that was a good speech like it was pretty it was entertaining it was pretty good you know like i really i've always had real appreciation for that so like for instance i think my chris ballard appreciation after the seasons he'll go out to his press conference no notes and he will sit there for an hour and a half and there's nothing it's just him i'm like oh this son of a bitch is a good speaker okay this guy's guy's really. Shanahan and Lynch. Now, Lynch deferred to Shanahan on a Jimmy G question. So that was the only real flaw I saw in the entire thing. Other than that, they gave away nothing. They burned no bridges with Jimmy G.

They explained their stance on Jimmy G. So if you weren't a diehard Niner fan, you'd be like, okay, that does make sense. Two out of three years, this guy's been hurt. We've gone to shit. Jimmy knows that. I mean, it's just something we can't do. We have to prepare for the team, for the fans, blah, blah, blah. Even though the city we played in kicked us out. He should have said that. He didn't say that. That should have been something he kind of like... Oh, by the way.

Hey, by the way, we got kicked out of our city last year. Just something to think. I know the Niners an incredibly historic franchise. Oh, yeah? But an NFL team got kicked out of a city. I mean, that is... There's going to be repercussions know the Niners, an incredibly historic franchise. Oh, yeah. But an NFL team got kicked out of a city. I mean, that is, there's going to be repercussions down the road for that. Something's going to happen down the road because I just, you know, it's just like the players that opted out. And then a bunch of people played.

Santa Clara kicked the Niners out and everybody else was able to play still. So, you know, there's going to be, maybe not this year, maybe not five, maybe 10 years. Something is going to be said about, hey, you remember when you fucking kicked us out in the middle of the season and everybody else was able to play? You remember that? We're going back to San Francisco. Yeah, there's going to be something that falls from that. But they were able to come out looking good, the baby faces in the entire thing, and told nobody anything.

It's insane to me. It is absolutely insane to me. And by the way, our source could know. And our source, by the way, might now be... He might be... Or she. You're right. Of course. See what we did?

See what we did there? They could be kayfabing us right now, too. This could be an entire thing. Target for false information. Oh, my God. They said it. Oh, dude.

Who knows? What if? By the way, Shanahan and Lynch came out like two days ago, and they said, we know who we're picking. Yeah. Yeah. So they were so confident on how nobody would know. Or maybe they didn't say that, by the way. Maybe.

And then this's also possible. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, a man who is not our source for this information, but he might have sources that know more than us. He works on ESPN. He's on every show over there, I think. His quarterback breakdowns have been magnificent to kind of watch and listen to. He pissed off an entire state quickly, the state of Ohio, with releasing information that he was told by his sources.

I think we all learned from that situation. And I respect the hell out of this man's brain. I think the whole show does. Ladies and gentlemen, Dan Erlofsky. Yeah! Roman Reigns shirt. Okay, how you doing? Keep it moving.

Head of the table. What do you want to talk about? Whatever you want to talk about, bud. It's great to be back, man. It's been a little bit of time since I was on, as you mentioned. So I'm thankful to be back on draft day, bud. Well, hey, by the way, didn't make the spectacular. I'm disappointed.

To share with everybody so they know know you sent out the tweet, notifying everybody that you were going to be having the draft night, spectacular show. And I sent you a message saying, if I'm not on the show, delete my number. And your response was in capital letters. We're having big guests. That's right. Thanks bro. Yeah. And right. Thanks, bro. Yeah, but then you responded

with something where I think if any other human on earth responded with what you responded with, I would have immediately blocked their number. You used fudging. You used the word fudging in a sentence. And I think at this stage of my life, at this stage of my life, 33,

about turning 34, I've gotten a chance to kind of learn a little bit about life. I've been a douche. I've always been a stooge. I've been around, you know. At this point, if any other human other than Dan Orlovsky uses fudging to me, I immediately go, okay, cool, never fudging talking to those people again. Okay, that's what I say. You somehow, though, make it work, and that's, hey, that's Orlovsky, baby. That's a Dan Orlovsky charm.

So I'm thankful you're here on draft day. And are you working tonight? Are you doing anything tonight? Are you in Cleveland right now? Yeah, I'm in Cleveland. We had NFL live for two hours today. Usually it's four to five, but we're three to five. They gave us two hours today.

I'm not doing anything live during the draft. We'll be watching it as a crew and kind of sending out instant reactions on social media stuff. Will you join us tonight? Will you join us tonight at some point? I would be honored. I would be honored. I'll be there. Let me see.

Let me know when. Let me see. I don't know. Big guests. Big guests. Well, I got to see. I got to see. You know what?

Let me caveat that. If Mac Jones goes number three, I'd love to come on. Okay. All right. Okay. Okay. Now let's talk about this, though. Let's talk about Mac Jones going number three.

By the way, Dan, Dan Orlovsky will be on tonight's draft. Let's go, Dan. We'll rerun whatever you're about to say here. I'm joking. So we had potentially heard from a source now with everything though seems like it's potential bullshit especially on draft day because teams are playing poker with everybody right now yeah trey lance to the niners is a i guess a real possibility at this point if trey lance goes to the niners at three now i'm not saying this is

going to happen because we were told this is happening. Then we're told, whoa, whoa, hold on. Maybe. Hey, just want to let you know. Yeah, just got an update. Maybe. So let's say Trey Lance goes three. Do you think now the Justin Fields story, that is going to be something that we are going to follow very closely?

And maybe Justin Fields, by the way, is going. Maybe. Maybe he ends up going number. What if he ends up going to by the way in the sack but anyways it would be absolutely amazing but yeah if mac jones doesn't go to the niners do you think there's a couple teams allegedly the saints are trying to move in the top 10 not for a quarterback but like the patriots that number four overall pick that is allegedly locked in by maziano your boy and fowler they said they're taking pits that number four overall pick that is allegedly locked in by Maziano, your boy, and Fowler, they said they're taking Pitts. That number four pick probably gets very, very expensive for people that thought they had no chance to get Mac Jones, I'd assume, right?

Yeah, absolutely. I think the number four pick is more expensive than past years anyway because Atlanta is not – like you got to pay a premium to go up and get the four pick this year because of who we think is going to be the four pick. It's Kyle Pitts. Atlanta's not sitting there going, we're going to take Rashawn Slater or Penne Sewell. Really, really, really good players. And in past tradition, it's like, oh, well, the number four pick, it's usually going to cost you this draft capital to go up there and get it. But if I'm Atlanta, I'm sitting there going, I'm not only giving you the number four pick,

go up there and get it. But if I'm Atlanta, I'm sitting there going, I'm not only giving you the number four pick, I'm also passing on the likely opportunity to take Kyle Pitts, who everyone believes, myself included, that this guy's the best. And future earnings. Listen, you need to pay for future earnings I'm missing out on. Correct. Yeah. You got to pay a premium for that four slot. And I think that's part of the reason why Atlanta is probably having some difficulty trading that pick is because the price tag is so much higher than in traditional past years you know so um I do think that the NFL community at least coaching wise views Mac Jones in more high regard than the public I do think that I've had conversations with coaches who love him like absolutely love his game on the field so I don't I think that if he doesn't go to three, the phone calls would be ringing.

But I believe that for Justin and Trey as well. Okay. Go ahead, Connor. Yeah, you mentioned Justin Fields, Dan. So what do you think the chances are he falls to like seven or eight and then a team like New England will trade up with the Lions or the Panthers to get him? Yeah, Connor, i don't think the quarterbacks get out of eight i just in my gut i don't think any of them last past the eighth pick so that's why the the trade yesterday between

denver and carolina i do believe a team like detroit was a big winner because if you're one of those teams new england chicago p, Pittsburgh, Washington, and you are like, you know what? We want Justin Fields or Trey Lance or Mac Jones. You got to at least believe that Carolina is in the mix for one of them, that they're at eight. And if you want one of those guys, you have to jump. You've got to go jump eight and go, we have to go get this player. And so I think New England, at the end of the day, New England's going to have to be overly aggressive. And so would Chicago and so would Pittsburgh and so would Washington if they want that quarterback. Now, which one do I believe that they would be more willing to be

aggressive for? It's Justin Fields. I just think he's more talented. Yes, there's issues that you have to fix with them. I gonna do a tape on nfl live about it today and i don't know if it's fixable i don't know i think it is difficult but i think his talent is pretty impressive hey we have no idea if any of these dudes are going to stink or not right i mean sure and pat this this is why it's a great point i love that question so here's my thing about all this they could all stink hey they could all stink they could all be all pros they could all be all pros they could all be all pros we have no i have said this for like three years now we got like six or seven maybe

eight great quarterbacks in the nfl great that those guys pretty much annually no matter what's around them they're gonna play really really good football if not elite hall of fame great football and then there's that crew of like eight guys that are good that can be really good for seasons play caller health talent around them right why do we think every year that five dudes are going to go be hall of famers like it just doesn't happen that way now if trey lance goes to san francisco i think it's the greatest flyer at the quarterback position in the history of the nfl. Okay. Okay. Because quarterback is a repetition position. You only get better by repetitions. He's thrown 318 passes in college,

318. The last cat to get drafted in the first round of quarterback that's thrown less than 500 is Mark Sanchez. Mark threw for 487 times at USC. 318 is the lowest number in 40 years. So you're taking like a massive flyer on a guy that like, yeah, there's talent there, no doubt. But man, it is a huge risk. And these quarterbacks that are franchise quarterbacks, they don't go into the NFL and fail because they're not talented. Oh, here we go hey this is going to be an Orlovskyism I think yeah all these guys are talented but they go into the NFL and fail because the organizations and coaches don't figure out what their flaw or their two flaws are

and they don't figure out a way to fix them they don't figure out a way if you can and if they're able to fix them and that's why these guys they can go be great but if you don't address the flaw man because they all got them if you don't address the flaw they'll never be great we're uh chatting with dan orlovsky here espn talking head he's on every show over there uh anytime turn on the espn he will be on it looks like he is doing well though those are good drapes drapes. Is that your room? Are you in a conference room or are you in your room right now? I see you in my room. This is my hotel room. I'm at the Hyatt.

Whoa! Hey, look at them taking care of old Dan Orlovsky over there. Just ate lunch. Just ate a little Quest bar for lunch. You called me when I was working out. Getting some push-ups. No free ads. Yeah, what do you have, a hotel workout?

Is that what you do because you've got like 55 kids? you have to do like quick workouts and stuff like that yeah i really i can't go like 48 hours without working out if i do i i become like super douchey so really hey that's a good self-diagnosis like you just said about these quarterbacks you know coaches find a flaw was this your wife that said like hey every four to eight hours we need you to work out because i'll tell you what it gets tough around here when you don't do that is that what happened yeah my wife was like why are you on edge why are you on edge the kids just woke up and i'd be like i haven't worked out in a day or two so i try to sweat but you look hey you look like you're about 165 170 right now nah dude i'm six foot five me for me to be six and 170, I would look like, you know, like Christoph Porzingis.

You know, like I'm 200 pounds. No, you're not. No way. Yes. No, you're not. Do you see this tricep guy? No, I don't. No, I don't.

No, I don't. It's very good lighting. You got good lighting. You couldn't do the shadows. You know what I mean? You couldn't see the shadow because it's good lighting over there. You're in incredible shape. So tonight, when inevitably a team makes a massive mistake,

how will you judge that? What do you think a team will do that would be absolutely a nightmare? Has something happened? No, not yet. Okay, all right. Hey, I've heard there's something. I've heard something's cooking right now, by the way. What are you, like, in the world?

Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. I've heard something's cooking. now by the way i what are you like in the in the world yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah i've heard something's cooking now listen i don't know what's real what isn't real i don't know what's real what isn't real and i feel like listen dan you're on come on no listen you're on you're on espn so like you have like big time connections you know you do the handshaking thing with all the suits and all that shit. You enjoy that stuff. I do not. I do not enjoy that stuff. I don't like having these connections because it's a lot of pressure.

How am I not supposed to fucking say what I just read in my phone right now? I don't know. I don't know how I'm not supposed to say it, but I'm not going to say it. I'm not going to say it. Let's talk about quarterback play in the NFL. Give context clues. Something big. Huge.

Huge. Bigger than the draft. Change the fabric of the league. Yep. What in the wide world of sports is going on? Yeah. All right, who knows? It's draft day.

We got to remember, everything could be fake. Hey, what did you learn this draft cycle? Yeah, you're right. You're right. This is why you're smarter than me. And I hate it, but you are. No, you saw me just, I mean, I just, I lived in the moment there for about 35, 40 seconds.

But I think what we have learned about this draft cycle is anybody could be a pawn in somebody's open Sicilian chess game. Yep. Correct. And I could be one. I think I'm more of a horse. You know what I mean? Okay.

You're nice. Don't forget, don't forget when horses can't run anymore, they just get shot. So I wouldn't like do that. No, I'm talking about the knight. Okay. I'm talking about the Okay. You're a knight. Don't forget, don't forget when horses can't run anymore, they just get shot. So I wouldn't like do that. No, I'm talking about the knight. Okay. I'm talking about the L. We're talking chess.

You wouldn't understand that. You don't even know. I said close Sicilian on you. You had no idea. Go fish guy. I'm a go fish guy. Hey, not a bad game. You're also a good game.

Go fish isn't bad though. Pretty elementary game. I think you can move up. You seem to be smarter than that. But Dan, Trevor Lawrence, is he going to be good? Yeah, 100% sure?

Yeah. Quick, quick, quick, quick. Not full, not full, not full. You think Trevor Lawrence is going to be good, though? Yes, I think he's going to be great. Zach Wilson, 100% sold that Zach Wilson is going to be good at the Jets? Absolutely not. Zach Wilson or Jets?

Both. Okay. More Zach Wilson. Do you think there's any move that the Jets don't take Zach Wilson at this point? No. Okay. So you think those two are locked in? Do you think you think Mac Jones to 49ers is also a lock in your eyes? No, I think Mac Jones will be the pick. I think Mac Jones should be the pick. I would not be shocked if it's Trey Lance. Okay, Dan. All right. What time do you want to join us tonight? What pick? How about pick?

Yeah, 15. It depends, Pat. If Mac Jones goes three, I would love to come on somewhere in that time frame. Oh, so Dan, you want to come on while pick fours, five, six, seven, and eight? Of course you do, Dan. No, that's you, pal. That can't happen, Dan.

Patrick, what do you want me on? You can't be on the top. No, I understand. And it's very nice of you to pander to me right there. And because I do appreciate whenever that happens every once in a while. But top ten, we can't have anybody because we have no idea what's going to happen. And everything. Then I'll come on after that.

Okay. So, but at ten, we do have somebody. So, I think at like maybe. Actually, I don't know. Okay. 15, I think we get 16. Pick 16. I'm there.

Okay, 15 to 16. That's, like, what, 9, 30, 10 o'clock, right? Last year, that might have been 1 a.m. I mean, when we signed up to do the show last year, we had no idea it was going to be a seven-hour affair. Okay. Yeah, just remember, there's this artist named Nas who said, sleep is the cousin of death.

I don't need sleep tonight, bud. Yeah, Nas, actually, OG, named Nas who said sleep is the cousin of death. I don't need sleep tonight, bud. Yeah, Nas actually, OG, I watched part of his documentary on Netflix last night. So I'm a big Nas fan. I actually couldn't sleep. We have no TV here, okay? I need TV to fall asleep. I watched Netflix on my phone for fucking seven hours.

Anyways, ladies and gentlemen, ESPN legend, former NFL quarterback, probably a head coach at some point, ladies and gentlemen, Dan Orlovsky. See you tonight, Dan. Thanks, buddy. People go through many changes as we get older, isn't that right? Oh, yeah.

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Thank you, Roman. Thank you, Roman. Joining us now, straight out of Ohio, ladies and gentlemen. Hold on. A college football national champion. I know. I saw Zito, by the way. I was just going to do an extended.

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A man that I just called before we got on air and asked him if he had heard anything. And he said, no, obviously I haven't heard anything about anybody. And I said, okay. Well, I told him exactly what I heard. Because I said, if I have to sit through two hours of not saying this live on air, neither can you, pal.

Ladies and gentlemen aj hawk aj we were happening we were delivered now well i was delivered and then you were delivered some potential nfl news and i want to let you know good luck not fucking saying it i had to deal with it for 19 minutes in that first hour. I almost, I don't know how we're going to get through today. There's going to be so many, you know, breaking news announcements today from insiders and sources. There's going to be so many things that come out today over the next two hours that we're just going to have to not act like it's gospel.

Right. But it's going to be very difficult not to get excited about news that potentially breaks and information about tonight and everything. It's going to be very difficult not to get excited about news that potentially breaks and information about tonight and everything. It's going to be very difficult for these next two hours, I think to kind of keep it together in anticipation for tonight, AJ. Well,

what do you think that, that information that you shared with me that you, you got from somebody, when would that happen? When would this news break to everybody? Pray to God in the next couple of hours. You know, we pray to God and it's God in the next couple of hours. Yeah. Right now. We pray to God and it's like within the next five minutes so that we don't have to do two hours of this game

where I have to like, you know, do one of these with every sentence because everybody knows the way I speak. It's running down a grocery store aisle and just grabbing things that are in my brain and then turning around and going fucking right back for three hours. That's what the show is. rain and then turning around and going fucking right back for three hours. That's what the show is. And right now,

there is the entire right aisle is this one thing. And I'm running through it. It's, ah, guys. Ah. Ah. Oh. Ah. It's going to be tough. It's going to be tough for the next two hours. So I'm hoping

you know, the numerous things that we have heard today, and I'm not looking at my phone. There's three more text messages. Oh, Jesus. Not yet. Huh? Nothing. Oh, now all the sports books have moved to the number three overall pick.

You know what I mean? I think I'm the reason why that happened, and then I got a text like 20 minutes later, and it was like, oh, we do not know. Hold on. So, AJ, this is a bad day. This could be an incredibly long day, strenuous day, exciting day, pumped day. I mean, this is draft spectacular day. We should have expected nothing different.

Right, AJ? Right. Was it Trent Dilfer who told you, like, you are a bastion for misinformation? People want to give to you that you can spew to the world. Well, we addressed that in the first half. We did have quite a moment where, you know, we had to look each other in the face and say, we're getting used right now.

Yeah, hold on. We're getting used right now. Actually went through an entire story about how the show was once in a basement. Yeah. You know, people listen, but not as many as people that listen now. And then now we're at this point, and to Trent Dilfer's point, maybe we are just, you know, a rook in this game, dude. Maybe we're a fucking pawn out here.

What's that one that just goes straight up and down real fast? Oh, the queen. No, the other one, the one on the far right. Oh, bishop? Oh, no, you're a rook. Oh, the rook. The rook, that's the rook? Yeah.

The one that just goes straight up and down? Yeah, up and down, side to side. It's got a little bit of a castle on top. Should be a gargoyle hanging out the outside. Should be. If I created chess, that's what I would have done. That one. We are potentially that right now.

And I think that would be the one we are, by the way. Or the one that goes super diagonal. What's that one? That's the bishop. So we're either the bishop, because they're trying to slice through all the bullshit. That's right. So we're either a bishop or a rook in this game, I think, to try to get to the other side as fast as possible, if I had to guess.

And I don't like it. I don't want to be a fucking bishop. I don't want to be the king. I want to chill. You know what I mean? And I want the information to come to me. That's what I would like to get. But that's not how this is going to go.

We are potentially going to get used. I mean, old Knight Connor over there is potentially going to get a text message from somebody in Boston that knows somebody in the New England Patriots organization. They're going to want to get that out. We all have to realize where we are right now, and I understand that. But, boy, it is very difficult not to just mimic and say exactly what I'm told by somebody. It's very difficult to not do that right now.

I'm sure this is a great test for you. I guess you should be honored, though, that you are a place where people can put out information that they want out there, whether it's correct or not. Well, are we fucking up the game? Are we ruining the game? Are we then a part of the whole thing that we bash on a regular basis? And are they even doing that?

Are they just trying to watch a squirm? You know? I mean, are they just, Hey, let's send this to Pat and watch him squirm for the next three hours. It'll be awesome. You think these people are potentially sitting in whatever rooms they're in, whether it is nice rooms, war rooms, whoever, you know. By the way, congrats, Andrew Barry just had a baby.

Cleveland Browns GM had a draft day baby. I assume that's good news for Andrew Barry. Andrew Barry's the man. He's awesome. The Browns have to be incredibly pumped about everything going on. What are they going to do? Who knows? Maybe they slide up into the top five.

I don't think they'll do that. He just had a baby. He signed Baker Mayfield. It's with your option. But what if people are just watching right now and just like, Oh, look at him. Look at him. We got him.

What if this is like for all the years of shit that I have done. These are people like, Oh, fun little game, huh? Getting back at you. They're doing the first hour too, AJ. The first hour. And they're like, Let's go ahead and just. This is like a social experiment for them. I assume, hey, by the way, shut up, okay?

If that is what this is, fuck you, first of all. This will come back around. I won't let you know. And also, pretty good idea. I would probably want to see me squirm like this too. I am pretty excited about it as well, AJ. Pat, you know what? The more I think about it, there's a real possibility

that that is the case. Somebody is trying to entertain themselves and the group that they may be with currently watching you have a meltdown live on your own show what's that all about i feel messed up i feel like i've been a good guy yeah you know what i mean been a good guy whoo let's get through odds have just changed by the way. They're saying like 100 points. There's 100 odds difference since that week. Tell me, for which one? For what bets? The number three overall pick.

We came out because we were told earlier, right before we go live on air. I disagree with that. I'm glad because I hope your top ten has this in it for tonight. So, yes, continue. I'm sorry. So, you got – I have not shared my top ten with anybody. No. Other than the boys here because we –

I just shared mine with Gertie. That's it. Okay. Dirty Gertie making a graphic, by the way. Shout out to Gertie. Can we put up the Fandle Beach House thing that he made here? And the draft spectacular thing maybe that he put up here? Gertie, Dirty Gertie, incredible, incredible attitude.

Yeah. I get texts from him like, hey, let's go. Let's have a good day today. And then he just goes into his little lab and just starts creating. This dude is a wizard with shit. Look at the draft. Can you put the draft one up there? The draft spectacular thing that goes up there.

It is the amount of time and tedious bullshit that this takes for drawing. He has to cut out every single one. We got jersey swaps tonight, AJ. The jerseys are drawn to the game. Dirty Gertie. I want to let you know, I appreciate the hell out of you. With that being said, you do work for this company. Okay?

Send me what AJ Hawk's top ten was immediately. Right now. Immediately send that over, Gertie. Okay, so you got Mack at three, I just heard. Is that what I just heard? You got Mack Jones at three? I don't know. Maybe I knew this would happen, so I sent him a decoy top ten.

Oh, so that's a smoke screen. Of course, your $20,000 potentially half to charity, half to the viewers, is all just a smoke screen now. Okay, that makes sense. That makes sense that that's what you're doing. That makes a lot of sense. What the fuck's going to go on tonight? Nobody knows, AJ. Nobody knows. The more information I'm told, lot of sense. What the fuck's going to go on tonight? Nobody knows, AJ.

Nobody knows. The more information I'm told, the less I fucking know. What's going on, Diggs? To your point of you moving the odds, before you went on air and said the news at number three, Mac Jones was minus 270, I believe, and Trey Lance was plus 280. And now Trey Lance is plus 105. They have no money. Jesus.

No. Jesus fucking Christ. The first four immediately changed too. It was like plus 370 to plus 230. Oh, buddy. This is what it is. Hey, no money, no problems. Hey, is this like a GameStop thing where now everyone can come and they can just manipulate you to get what they want when it comes to –

All right. Jeez. Hey, Jay. I'm going to learn from this. I might be fucking right. I might be right, by the way. How about that? How about that?

How about when that happens? Is that what you're upset about? Are you upset that you're saying, like, no, I want to be the person that breaks all these things? No. I don't want to be the person that breaks all these things. But when these things just come to me, what am I supposed to do? What am I supposed to do, dude?

Got to talk about it. Yeah, you should turn off the back studio there, Andy. I appreciate you though. Zeke's got like 10 things. He's like a DJ right now. AJ, all right. So I can't read this. I'm too close to it.

That says Mac Jones there? Yeah, Mac Jones is minus 135. AJ alright so I can't read this I'm too close to it that says Mac Jones there yeah Mac Jones is minus 135 you have it looks like moved the Trey Lance line quite a bit

and by the way that was before that was after Darren Revell's tweet about the amount of money bet on this third overall pick

yeah so that's only building I know I'm trending in I believe 49ers Twitter I'm going ham over there nice they are very pumped to hear what i said they are very excited it's not matt jones for whatever reason that's what i've learned from you allegedly by the way not mad jones but so multiple you have

multiple sources your first your first thing was to talk about the number three pick not being mac jones right and possibly trey lance yeah listen to AJ. I get that 10 minutes before we go live. Okay. I get that 10 minutes before we go live. And I say, I have to say this. I have to. I have to say this. And there's like kind of no response actually to that. But then, uh, then as I'm kind of going through that entire process and you know, the whole thing's happening,

then I get this other thing from somebody else and it's just like, what, why, doing this right now and by the way what if i'm right yeah you're right then what i'm not going to get back in these waters okay i'm not going to get back in the sources of sources waters okay i'm not going to do it but it's nice to kind of jump into water every once in a while and just be like fuck it i knew i could do this professionally if i wanted to i knew i could do this full time i knew it i knew I could be an insider. But then if it doesn't work, it's like, that's why I didn't want to be an insider. Get me out of this water. This is terrible.

It's a risk reward thing. You know what I mean? It's a risk reward thing. I mean, this stuff did fall in your lap, too. It's not like you were out diving through the bushes looking for this kind of stuff. It is presented to you. You're just saying what you've been told. I just got a text message. Zita, you at my phone what has happened updated updated uh the top 10 right there for you

oh this is aj's top 10 oh yeah i just got your top 10 shout out dirty good hey that's not my boy that's smart move dirty that's smart move dirty Dirty. That's smart move, Dirty. That's my top ten. That is my top ten. Absolutely. You're proud of it. Yeah, I will. Hey, Gertie, keep your inbox open, bud. Might send you something else later.

Oh, you don't think Gertie has other shit to do? Come on, dude. Hey, put that draft spectacular. You're the one that screwed him. You are the one that screwed him. No, I did not. No, I did not. No, I did not.

You put us together in a text this morning and said, hey, privately send your top ten to Gertie. And you did. I appreciate you doing it. Now, with that being said. You're a good guy, man. You're a good guy. Thank you.

I set up that situation. That's very nice of me. People don't talk about that enough. But you know how long this probably took for him to fucking make, AJ? You think he's got time to make, what, six top tens for you? No. What do you got going on, pal? Come on. It's amazing's amazing i mean i yeah there's no chance i could ever even i don't even know how to begin to start something like that i think to be honest the only person that

might not like dirty gertie that's associated with our company aside from you in this exact moment we all love him is trager trager's got to be pissed that is the smallest smallest good go back to that full screen here, Foxy. That is, it looks good at that size. Now zoom out. I mean,

I think it's very small. They are not going to be through it, but shout out to Traeger. Shout out to Traeger. Hey, Traeger made the graphic, Pat, and I'm proud of them.

Traeger made this graphic? No, no, no, no, no, they're on the graphic. okay,

okay. Foxy did not. He's got a grape with Gertie. He's not on the bottle. It okay foxy did not he's i did not make the it's okay i'm camera stooge that's all oh he zoomed out a little bit now would you foxy would you rather have your picture on or would you rather like it's better to not be on or to be on like connor with those glasses and that look that's a fair point that's a very fair point. It's the best look

I've had in a decade. By the way, Foxy did take modeling photos. What was that, two weeks ago? Yeah, he did. He did take modeling photos. He told WWE photographer,

please, please, tell Roman Reigns to wait. I need, I need a couple shots. I'm ahead of the table now. That kind of attitude

is probably why I'm not on the graphic. No, no. I think Gertie maybe, hey, Gertie put 700 people on his graphic. Yeah. I just forgot couple shots. I'm ahead of the table now. That kind of attitude is probably why I'm not on the graphic. No, no. I think Gertie maybe. Hey, Gertie put 700 people on his graphic. Yeah. Probably just forgot, Fox. You have a little brain.

Corey hates your guts. You don't want to do it. By the way, for people that are watching, Foxy does deserve to be on the graphic, obviously. Oh, yes. But Foxy's also giving away $500. Whoa. That's true.

Can I add something to that for Gertie? Foxy's $500. What's going on? Gertie based it off of Bill's graphic. Oh's true. Really? Can I add something to that for Gertie? Foxy's 500. What's going on? Gertie based it off of Bill's graphic. Oh. Bill. Bill. By the way, did Gertie just text you that?

No, I know. I just know that. Oh, he just know. Oh, so that was Bill, actually, that you have to beef with. So Gertie actually was like, all right, I got 10 hours invested in this thing. Let me go ahead and just pluck Bill's over here and put it on there. So Foxy, are we still maybe grudge against Bill, or is that just something that will always exist? Yeah, Bill might get smacked in the mouth, but it's okay.

Okay. Whoa. I like that. He needs it. Shout out to the voicemail we got the other day about Bill leading Ben Roethlisberger to the promised land in the Oculus to beat the shit out of his dick. Yeah.

Yep. Which he probably should. What's that, AJ? Can you detail that message to me? What happened? We got a voicemail. We probably could. We got a voicemail line now

at 1-833-4-MACAFEE. Everybody told us that we've worked at it. It's so expensive to get your own phone line, especially if you want to have people on hold and everything. We were like, yeah, there's no reason for those people to lie to us. It's not at all. They were lying.

Zito was like, we can get six lines and I think we can take a never-ending supply of voicemails. We have 1,000 voicemails currently sitting in this thing. 1,000 of them. We picked out Zito, I think, has picked out like 10 to listen to. One of them was from

an anonymous yinzer, and I think this is going to become something if we can figure it out. Ladies and gentlemen, the voicemail of the day from an anonymous yinzer in Pittsburgh. Yeah, guys, two things. One, we need to send Big Ben an office so he can bop his baloney and become MVP. We need Billy Toons to teach him how to use it,

what websites are the best capable. Yeah, number two, listen, as a Steelers fan, we need to take Brett Michaels out behind his head and do what we got to do because we don't need him beating his chest and all that bullshit. I appreciate you guys.

Thanks. Here we go. I appreciate you guys. Thanks. Here we go. I appreciate you guys. Thanks. I appreciate you guys. Here we go. I guess very good. Yeah, I assume he has a podcast or a show.

You know, and I asked the boys last time. We had a pretty in-depth conversation about him whenever we arrived here because we still don't have television. So, you know, you have to kind of take a trip back in the day. They thought that was his first go at that thing i did yeah i don't i feel like with voicemails can't you listen to them and then delete them and then re-record them oh yeah at the end of it but you think that guy hey guys two things you think that was just right off the thing and then he hung up and was like fucking nailed it you think he had that moment you think yeah i think so i just know like for me, like if I was going to do something like that, chances are just

your first go at it is probably going to be the funniest. He tries to do it a couple more times, add stuff. It gets worse. I think I think it might have just been off the cuff. It was a great thing. And you can call us one eight three three four McAfee. You can leave a voicemail. There's a lot of them.

What we're saying is we might listen to it. We might not. But if we do listen to it and we like it, good chance is going to make it on air. Cause we got three hours of time to fucking fill it. What's that? Make sure it's good. Well, Zito is the one listening to all of these.

So I believe there was probably a good 15 to 20 voicemail run where Zito was trying to punch himself in the face. Like we get it. We love you too, guys. Yeah, we, Hey,

by the way, that's really cool of you guys. Yeah. A lot of love. It's very nice. Yeah. We love you guys too. Uh By the way, that's really cool of you guys. A lot of love yous. It's very nice. Yeah, we love you guys too. 18334 McAfee. Here's Carter in Vermont. What's going on, Vermont?

Yo, what's up, Pat? I want to talk about Patriots possibly trading up and maybe getting the Atlanta Falcons fourth pick and also getting Julio Jones in that trade and possibly getting Justin Fields. Okay, so Carter from Vermont's like, hey, listen, don't want to pay Stephon Gilmore. We'll ship him out of town for sure, but bring in Julio.

Okay, we'll get Julio. We also want Julio in the number four overall pick. So what does Atlanta get back for that So what does Atlanta get back for that? What does Atlanta get back for that? Is that everybody you guys signed in the first day of free agency? Is that what you send back for that whole thing? Absolutely not, but there was a report that came out earlier that picks for next

year's draft are apparently like gold right now. So if we gave them, you know, the first round one, two, and three of next year's draft for that fourth pick, why not? To get Julio as well and the chance to miss out on Kyle Pitts, who is a for sure all pro in everybody's eyes. I don't know. I think

the Patriots make a move, AJ. I just don't know if they're going to get Julio alongside it. If they do, are you kidding me with what Bill Belichick's been able to pull off? Well, yeah, they may make a move. I mean, I don't yeah, a move and Julio. That seems like a bit much for tonight, but if they move how far up do you think they come up? Well, allegedly they have set the framework to do a deal,

a business negotiation with either Atlanta all the way through to the 14th pick. Bill has been planting seeds. We got to sit down and get more. What do you think? We got to sit down and get more. Kyle Van Noy too, if you want to. What if they did that? Hunter Henry, you want to fuck him?

Guy that killed Eric? What if he did just, what if that's how it goes? Because allegedly, he's ready to go anywhere from 4 to 14. I assume that's because maybe he thought 3 was locked in. Yeah. Yeah. And let's assume, okay, let's assume that if I got the information, somebody else did too, right?

Yeah. This isn't just me. No, no, no. What if it is? What if I am the only one that's being fucking thrown into the fire here? The thing with Gilmore is, though, he has to go to a team that can afford him going forward because he wants an extension.

So, like, the Falcons wouldn't be able to pay him next year. So, would a team really take on, you know, a 30-year-old cornerback for one season? I would. The fucking guy's a defensive MVP. I would. Even if they don't want to, even if they know they're not going to pay him an extension,

they know, like, Gilmore can't sit there and say, no, I'm not going, can he? He doesn't have a no-trade clause. Okay. Here we go. Patriots are trading with the Dallas Cowboys at 10. Stephon Gilmore's going to Dallas Cowboys. Does that not feel like a Jerry Jones move?

Is that high enough, though? Is that enough for the Patriots? For Jerry, absolutely, especially because they need help in the secondary. But at 10, do you get your guy? What do you say? Four to 14, right? Yeah. So maybe it's just how it all plays out.

But isn't that a move you'd see Jerry do? And then if you have the 10th pick, then what can you do with the 10th pick, right? Then maybe you can even Oh, then double down. Pack it again. Okay. Doesn't that feel like a Jerry Jones move, though? Oh, yeah. At least if he's a defensive

MVP again, I'll pay him. I pay fucking everybody around here. What if that is? I mean, they're looking defense, allegedly, with J.C. Horn would be much cheaper, obviously to get a rookie who's potentially going to be a stud or certain, I guess, but all social media videos that have stopped after just releasing two of them lead us to believe that's probably going to be JC Horn.

They had Kyle Pitts, who's supposed to be the super all pro this year, basically put over JC Horn in a video that they put out on Twitter without, I don't think they told Kyle Pitts they were releasing that video. So it feels like they're going J.C. Horn at 10. Is that what you picked as well, A.J.? I don't know what I have at. You have it right in your phone, so you know my top 10.

But I know I do not have him at 10. Look at 9, 10 on my thing if you really have it. I think it might surprise you a little bit. A.J. Hawk. He's got J. got JC Horn, yeah. He's got JC Horn at 10. Hey, by the way. You don't have my picks.

Appreciate you, Dirty Gertie. Whoa. You don't even know. Listen, I'm not changing mine either. The amount of, you've had so much misinformation thrown at you today that you're spinning right now. You don't even know where you are. Dirty, Dirty needs not be a part of that crowd of throwing misinformation.

That is not a good crowd. But I'm not changing mine. Hey, we're both locked in. Good. Is this what you're locked into or no? Yeah, do I have horn going at 10? Yeah. You don't even know who you got, dude.

You idiot. This is an embarrassment. Who did your draft for you? Myself. who you got dude you idiot this is embarrassment who did your draft for you myself do you really have it yeah i got the graph read it i don't care put it out there then read it i don't care i'm not scared of the graphic put the graphic up all right aj listen zito's got to upload it for us to put us on this thing i'm staying too close to it i'm not gonna be able to read it anyways but we're gonna put it up right here because it looks cool on the camera okay aj so have a little bit of respect for the fandor beach house down here in beautiful I'm staying too close to it. I'm not going to be able to read it anyways, but we're going to put it up right here because it looks cool on the camera. Okay, AJ?

So have a little bit of respect for the FanDuel Beach House down here in beautiful Tampa Bay, Florida. And if it rains down here, we are completely fucked with the way our house is set up. Yeah, we are in trouble. Like it's underwater or you're going to have no power or what? All of the above, potentially. Kind of just go into your bedroom. what all of the above potentially you gotta just go into your bedroom and here's the uh 20k top 10 pat hawk mock officially ten thousand dollars will go to charity of choice of uh the winner ten thousand dollars will go to the viewers in the comments section at youtube.com forward slash the pat mcafee show tonight 7 730 Eastern Time. Draft spectacular.

Where did you get that picture of me, first off? Where does that come from? Hey, it wasn't me. You're awesome, though, dude. You look unbelievable. You look unbelievable. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

Continue. Okay. We both got Trevor Lawrence here at one. Wow. Okay. Sounds good. That's pretty easy. I think we're going to be tied.

Tie ball game right there. Yep. Then at two, we both got old Zach Wilson. Ty's bailing on this one. Hates to hear about it. Then at number three, I got, I got, I got Trey Lance.

Okay. This is where, this is where we defer a little bit. You got Mac Jones. And at this number four pick here, we're both at Kyle Pitts, but I want to let you know, when I put this in,

it was immediately after I had gotten the information, I was told, then immediately before me thinking, oh shit, the Patriots are probably going to, who's going to want Mac Jones? And I didn't even, so I put Pitts at four. I'm not 100% sure on this one though. AJ, you like Pitts at four for sure?

Yes, I do. I think Atlanta, if they don't move out of that spot, I do, yes. Okay, so then we both got Panay to the Bengals. I think that's because we don't move out of that spot, I do. Okay. So then we both got a penne to the Bengals. I think that's because we both pray that Joe Burrow survives, right? Correct. Okay. That's good. Jamar chase at number six here. I think we both like this because I thought these two were probably interchangeable five and six. You thought the same thing.

Yeah, a little bit. Okay. Number seven, the lines. I got them taking Devante Smith. I think they need a weapon up there. They lost some wide receivers. They got Goff, who's a thrower. MCDC understands that. You think they're going defense. Patrick Sertain, also first defense corner off the board. You like this right here, huh?

Yeah, I mean, I like it, but I'm not 100% confident in it with Horn. But these also, like, I have trades in mind. I know it doesn't matter in our draft but these aren't the teams that you think are taking these guys well by the way that is that does not matter nope who do you think's going to get patrick certain though i'm not telling you that but don't worry my doesn't matter quarterbacks eight nine ten definitely do okay so you got eight justin fields i got mac jones at eight that's both new england so that's both new england yeah i got new england there yeah yeah we both New England. So that's both in New England. Yeah. I got New England there. Yeah.

Yeah. We both do. Yeah. We both have that. And then we're Sean Slater offensive lineman there. I got him going to Denver because they just got a quarterback, Teddy Bridgewater. I don't think they're going to take another quarterback.

And then you have obviously Trey Lance going to Denver there to make that thing. Trey Lance, Drew Locke, Teddy Bridgewater. You have them trading out of there. I got him. No, I have him staying there that thing. Trey Lance, Drew Locke, Teddy Bridgewater. You have them trading out of there. I got him. No, I have him staying there and get taken Trey Lance.

Okay. And then 10 JC Horn. I have, you have JC Horn as well. He definitely doesn't have the lines at seven. They took a corner with their first pick last year. Yeah. Who do you have at seven? Who do you think straight up with the lines?

Don't worry about it. Oh, you'll debut it tonight. This is a surprise for tonight. Maybe. Yeah. Maybe. it. Oh, you'll debut it tonight. This is a surprise for tonight? Maybe, yeah. Maybe, yeah. What is that? I'm not letting you dictate every single factor of this whole mock draft.

Well, I just want to let you know. Listen, you gave me nine minutes to put it together, too. I was waiting. The last two days, I started thinking, like, wait, we have this 20K thing. I wonder when they're going to send me that link so I can get in on it. And then I got a text this morning. Well, you haven't gotten a link yet either because I don't know how to work the link.

No. So we were going to have Fandle just score it for us, and they were going to have a private link there. I don't know how to work it. It's a full thing. So we're just going to do the 10, okay? And we'll use their scoring system for it. I think we'll be able to figure it out.

Yeah, you had way more than nine minutes too, pal. I mean, hell, we've been talking about the draft for goddamn three months, okay? There's been nothing else to talk about. So you've had a long time, pal. Nine minutes, that means I only had nine minutes too. Yeah, I'd like to see whose mock you copied. Probably. Are you kidding me?

Exactly. Put my mock back. Put my mock back up there, please. Okay? I'm sorry, boys. I appreciate Are you kidding me? Exactly. That's the shit in me, dude. Put my mock back. Put my mock back up there, please. Okay? I'm sorry, boys. I appreciate what you're doing. Please put it back up there. Who do you think's mock am I taking with Trey fucking Lance at three, okay?

This is my, this is my, my sources. This is my, my draft. $20,000 on the, this is what, listen, a lot of people, you know, there's some people I guess that had Mac Jones at three locked in. They bet a lot of money. Oh, yeah. They're attacking me now because they're saying I'm wrong and I'm costing blah, blah, and I'm changing lines and blah, blah. They should be happy, by the way,

because it probably will help them even more if they bet on it now. The odds are getting worse or better for Mac Jones as the day goes on here. But who do you, you take, you're taking somebody else's. This is, what is this, Orlovsky's mock? Is this Schrager's mock? Whose mock is this, AJ? Who'd you steal from? Don't worry about it.

I study everybody, Pat. I study everybody and make my selections. But didn't Orlovsky, he said, didn't he mention something about Trey Lansing, the number of balls he's thrown in college? 318, I believe. Is that scary or does that excite you for like, wow, what this kid could be? Yeah, I have no idea. I'm not Shanahan at all.

I don't know. I didn't know this guy existed. I love him. I'm a big fan of him after getting a chance to learn about him and watch highlights and interviews of him. I'm a massive fan. I know nothing about this dude. And, you know, when Carson came out, I had no fucking idea about Carson.

I had no clue about Carson either I felt bad about it at the time obviously saw what happened in Philly said some things that have been taken out of context a few times now obviously big fan of Carson love North Dakota okay even though South Dakota State does have the Dakota market back okay go big go blue go jacks but I love trailings I have no idea what the potential is the expectation the growth i have no clue i have no idea what it is same with josh allen too i feel like wyoming i feel like no nobody was like hey this guy's by far gonna be you know the best player and their best qb in this draft and then he turned into something

aj i will have you know that gertie did sub out that photo on that graphic that you do not love. Yep. You're crying about it. Dirty Gertie. I didn't say it was a bad photo. I said I haven't seen that in a long time. Oh, so you didn't mind that photo? I don't care.

You can put whatever photo you want. No, Dirty Gertie wants to win you back over. You know what I mean? He wants to win you back over. He never lost me. Gertie's always been good with me. It was you that tried to screw me, not him. Okay, all right.

Welcome back to the show. What he was talking about there is me and AJ's $20,000 top 10 Pat Hawk mock, where we are trying to accurately predict the top 10 players selected. Okay, we're not doing the trades and the teams, just the players in order of selection. Hopefully to help us out with that is a man who has always been incredibly informative with us.

I think we find him very, very entertaining as well. And tonight he'll be on NFL Network for the draft coverage alongside Charles Davis, Rich Eisen. Mooch. Mooch. Mooch. Michael Irvin, maybe. I hope. Brian Billick.

Brian. Baldi. Ladies and gentlemen, move the sticks, Daniel Jeremiah. Yay! How are you, man? I'm doing great, bud. At CD, we've got Charles Davis. We've got David Shaw from Stanford and Rich Eisen. And then we've got Kurt and Joel Klatt over there to the side.

And then Ian Rappaport with all the other stuff going on. So we have the full house, buddy. How are we doing, by the way? Hey, we'll be watching you tonight. Not for picks like 3 to 10. We're not going to watch. We're going to let it happen kind of to us organically. And then after 10, we're going to expect you guys to dance clown

honestly to make it keep it interesting but daniel jeremiah it is heating up here today now i don't know what's all smoke screen what's all real what isn't i assume you're getting a lot of updates on things as well what could potentially come tonight it sounds like this top 10 could get insane tonight am i right in thinking that yeah i think so i think look san francisco all the breadcrumbs all the information guys have been pointing towards mac jones so i've been i just go with what i hear on on a mock draft so everything is kind of steering me in that direction that's kyle's guy and then really kind of over the last 24 hours i've got some you know buddies in the league that are like wait a second i i really think this is going to be Trey Lance. And that's fascinating to me because right when it happened,

right when that trade happened, I was on the air doing, we were doing Zach Wilson's pro day. And my immediate reaction was, okay, they're just traded back. The Niners are coming up for Trey Lance. He just had his pro day. Like it kind of made sense. Like that was the last thing they needed to see to check that box. He gives them something they don't have.

It's a new direction that they can kind of take this offense. It's going to be Trey Lance. And then immediately all the information guys are telling me, no, no, no, this is Mac Jones, this is Mac Jones. So I backed off of that. And who knows? I really don't know, Pat. I think it's up in the air, man.

How many people do you think truly know right now who the Niners are going to take tonight? I would say, I mean, look, I'd say a handful of people in their organization and, and, and maybe, I mean, nobody keeps totally keeps the secret, right. Except for Bill Belichick. So I would say that maybe let's go two and a half people on the outside that have that information.

Does Mike know? Does Mike Shanahan know? How much does Kyle lean on Mike? AJ, great question. I'm sorry about that. And does mike shanahan know i would like you to answer that but you and me are the two and a half are we the two and a half people on the outside that know i came out this morning and said hey from what i've been told and by the way very popular in niners twitter that it's not mac jones very popular in niners twitter it's not mac jones or whatever for whatever reason mac jones might go on to be incredible, by the way.

Who knows who would want to come get him? But was Mike Shanahan a part of this whole thing? I apologize, AJ. I just wanted to make sure that Daniel Jeremiah knew that he was speaking to a, you know, like-minded person. You know, like you and me, we have the same sources, I think, at this point. Well, I was going to say if it's two and a half, then me and you are probably a quarter percent.

So we combined to make up the half on that whole front. But look, I think Mike Shanahan absolutely knows. I mean, I think he was a key part of it, of the decision. I think Kyle obviously trusts his dad, and his dad's been around some great quarterbacks. So I'm sure that he was involved in that, and I'm sure he's aware of what they're planning to do at number three. Okay. There's allegedly some other things cooking in the nfl potentially all right i mean

there's always this kind of chatter that happens are you guys trying to prepare for that as well or are you just trying to prospect are you thinking about potential moves that could be made by nfl teams that don't necessarily involve the prospects are you guys preparing for that are you on a group text chain and what are you being told well i haven't heard anything on that front just kind of you never know i mean the deshaun watson thing's still out there i think we've all assumed that that's not nothing's going to happen and i have no information that anything will happen but you're always just kind of alerted right that be ready in case something were to happen uh with him so that's one that you kind of put on your radar.

Outside of that, I mean, you know, the Bridgewater thing had been talked about for a long time. So that happening, I don't think that was a surprise to anybody. But no, everything else is just you're in reaction mode. So you study the players. That's what I try to do. Study the players. I know the players, know the teams and what they're going to do,

and then try and once it all goes down, explain, you know, why they did what they did. It's just going to be nice to be out of the guessing what they're going to do and then try and once it all goes down explain you know why they did what they did it's just going to be nice to be out of the guessing what they're going to do and more reacting and analyzing what they actually did jed york the hell was jed york tweeted out uh hashtag draft day thought i would share my thoughts and experiences today can't wait to make new friends through social media i'll follow you all right let's be friends all right shout out Chad York, by the way. I think we're going to become friends today. Go ahead, Connor. Yeah, Danny, it was reported that the Saints were going to try and trade up to 10,

but not for a quarterback. Who are they looking at then? Corner, corner. They don't have a corner opposite of Marshawn Lattimore. So that's why I've been giving them Tyson Campbell, even though I have Tyson Campbell kind of more of a second-round player. You know, this is a coach-driven team. It's just going to be a little bit more need-driven than maybe a personnel-driven team. And I don't think they feel comfortable about who their other corner is opposite a lot more.

And if you can get up in the top ten, the three cleanest players in the draft, take Lawrence and Pitts and put them away somewhere because those guys are unicorns all by themselves. Outside of that, you've got Horn and Sertan, and then I would say Elijah Verrett-Tucker from USC, the offensive lineman. Those guys are clean medically. They've been consistent players. They check every box in terms of the height, weight, speed, character, all that stuff.

So if the Saints are moving up there in the top ten, I would imagine it's for J.C. Horn or Patrick Sertan. Ty, go ahead. DJ, knowing that basically everything is bullshit or you know i mean all this stuff like it means whatever how much variance do you have in your mock drafts like when you put out your one that's your second to last and then your last mock draft right up before the draft like have have you seen major changes or have you heard that there's going to be major changes from uh you know like the last two weeks to when you put your final one out? Yeah, I mean, I, to be honest, peek behind the curtain, everything but the final

one, I'm just throwing stuff up against the wall, see what sticks and see, you know, see the different scenarios you can play around with. If this guy goes here, then what would be the effects of that? The one that you try and dig in on is the last one to, you know, making a lot of calls and trying to get as much information as you can. So that's the one that you kind of put some some effort into but it's all futile once once somebody goes off the rails the dominoes just completely destroy that whole thing so i don't anticipate this is going to be a very uh accurate mock draft season for anybody daniel okay as i just checked my phone to Twitter, me saying that

my sources have told me Mac Jones not going to the Niners at three, it is really going over there in San Francisco. I mean, it is. Every time I look down, I think to myself, ah, fuck. That's literally, every time I see it go, I'm just like, oh, no, boy.

There's now memes and gifs coming out about it. I'm just like, oh, no, boy. There's now memes and GIFs coming out about it. I mean, it's like San Francisco is so incredibly thrilled that it's not Mac Jones. Have you heard other teams that love Mac Jones? Have you heard of or know of any other places that if Mac Jones doesn't go at three, is he potentially going to, are we going to have another one of those moments to thought for, or is there somebody that's going to try to go get – I haven't been able to pin down a team. I've heard Denver likes him.

New England, nobody gets any information out of New England, so I don't believe anything that comes out saying what New England's going to do. It feels to me like if it does go Trey Lance three, it reminds me, not as players, but as the situation when Aaron Rodgers was in the mix to be the first pick. And it was like up until the end, we didn't know, was it Alex Smith, is it Aaron Rodgers? And then there was the thought if Aaron Rodgers doesn't go, he could go on a little bit of a slide.

To me, Mack feels a little bit like that. I think if he doesn't go three, there's a potential, you know, maybe he can go all the way down into the neighborhood where you're getting into, you know, if the Saints were to stay where they are. You know, you've got the Steelers potentially, some of those other teams. So, yeah, he's got – of all the quarterbacks to me, he's got the widest range of where he could potentially go tonight. Hey, Dan, how is this draft – like this pre-draft process, and especially now the day of, how does it feel compared to other years

as far as misinformation out there, like just craziness? And actually like legit info that you can gather. Yeah, it's hard, AJ. Like one of the things is this year is so weird because the medical, like normally the combine takes place. You have all that information. Hop, hop, hop, hop, hop. So it was nobody.

It was nobody. We're good. If it was good, I would have told you it was good, by the way. I'll give it up if I get a good call. Hey, we would do the same, by the way. We would do the same for you. We would do the same for you. So we appreciate that.

That's very nice of you. I talked to a team this morning with the medical that said they got results today on a player that they like they have to take off their board. Like this information, they're just compiling this over like the last few days. This stuff would always be done in February and March. And then if he didn't feel comfortable, you could bring the guy in for a visit. You know, one of those 30 visits into your facility,

give him another physical and see if he could check it out. So that's having a major impact on, on a lot of these kids. So it's, it's a weird, it's a weird, weird year. The word that keeps coming up over and over again, when I'm talking to buddies is just, we just want safe picks like doubles, not taking too many chances. So we'll see if they stick to that. It seems like there's been a lot of rumors that people, you know, late teens into the back half.

That's exactly what the back half of the league is, by the way, is the late teens. That is a big math show. Daniel Jeremiah, we move the sticks, okay, late teens. That is good math. Big math show, Daniel Jeremiah. We move the sticks, okay? Ten yards at a time. But it feels like there's been a lot of conversation maybe, but it's all bullshit that there might be people trading out of one tonight too, right?

There is a chance that that's going to happen. Now, I was reading headlines that Ballard was potentially thinking of that here in Indianapolis. I think I've seen a couple other places that are in the back know, the back half of the draft thing and the same thing. Is that something that's going to happen? And who do you think is going to get really active? Who's going to want to collect ones this year, you think? Everybody wants to get out. My problem is you've got to find a trade partner who wants to come up.

Because, like, if you want an edge rusher, there's a pack of them, like seven or eight of them. They're similar type players. They're probably going to go, you know, 20 to 40. And so you're saying, why get on the front of the train in the 20s when i can get on the back of the train and still end up in the same location so uh that's why i think teams are trying to do but i've yet to hear many teams that are anxious to come up for anybody um i don't know necessarily who that would be it may be one of those tackles you know darisov from virginia tech some people

really like him you've got tevin jenkins uh from oklahoma state maybe those could be some targets for teams at the top of the second round that could come up for one of those guys um but yeah it's there's a lot more teams that want to go in reverse than want to go forward in this draft and people i've talked to but it feels like there's a couple that want to go up and that's going to be a spectacle there in the top 10 but i mean that could's – That could have been a good one right there. I'll get all that person back. Who was it? Who was it?

No, it was a good one. It was somebody that's involved with one of those top quarterbacks. So, do you want to get off? Do you want to get off and come back in like 15 minutes? I'm not an information guy. I don't care. I'll find out what it is. Excuse me.

Today, I've been in the waters. I've been in the information. Women. Hey, true story. True story, Pat, because you in the waters, though, Daniel. Yeah. I've been in the information. Women. Hey, true story. True story, Pat, because you were talking about kind of the backlash. When I first got out of scouting and Twitter had just launched, right, so I didn't know, like, the scope of it. And so I'm, like, trying to gain some followers.

I got a couple hundred followers. And so I got a buddy that was with the Raiders, and it was when they had, I think, Tom Cable. There was a fight between coaches you remember that story about that so a buddy a buddy was on that staff and told me the whole story so I tweeted out not as a dumb young kid thinking like this is just for my little 300 people listen to this next thing you know I'm getting text messages I don't even know how they found my phone or this is can you come on SportsCenter can you come on this you know I'm like I'm like whoa i backed way off and that was my moment really i want no parts of this information

business you can have it so funny you say that the first time i took a trip into the information business the breaking news business the insider businesses for the raiders as well marshall lynch was in the building okay so marshall lynch was in the building working out. Somebody in the building sends me a text. Yo, just saw Beast Mode. And I was like, come again? Beast Mode. Marshawn Lynch is there? Oh, he's going to be a Raider. This is when he was still under contract with the Seahawks.

I put it out there. Next what? 20 minutes it just goes on the ticker at the bottom. It's like, here it is. And then I got Seahawks fans attacking me. The insider game is a vicious one. It's rough business, bottom. It's like, here it is. And then I got Seahawks fans attacking me. The insider game is a vicious one. It's rough business, man. It is vicious.

Now, I've been in there a couple times. I've been right, too, when I've gotten in there. I think, yeah, I think I've gotten right when I've gotten in there. If Trey Lance goes three tonight, I won't let you know. I will be doing, like, an insider, like, one of those things. You know what I mean? Go ahead, Connor. Yeah, Danny, we haven't heard much about the Julio trade since it first came out.

Do you expect that to happen this weekend, or is that something that will be closer towards that June 1st date? Yeah, I don't think it can be exercised until June 1st the way I understand it. So I think it's something that could potentially happen. I don't think it's something that would happen necessarily this this week so i think that's more down the line that's going to be tricky man because you've got somebody who is a big number makes a lot of money he's older he's broken down a little bit uh but then you you know you hear that there is a market so i think that i think something's going to happen there but i would imagine that's that's going to

be closer as we get to june, good luck making this thing entertaining tonight. You know what I mean? For that, you know, there's going to be a long haul there where you'll know who the people are, but we all won't. You know what I mean? Yeah, for me, after this conversation, boys, I just feel like the top 10, I might just sit back, put my feet up, and then once we get to 11, it is go time, baby.

Now we're on. That's what I'm talking about. We appreciate your service, sir. Ladies and gentlemen, move the sticks daniel jeremiah oh he was getting up by the way to call whoever he was that was a big one how do you feel about me now aj how do you feel about me now what what changed what happened on that interview that i didn't that bolstered how you feel about yourself? What happened? He said what I said and was like, I've been hearing the same thing.

Yeah, but he also said, I have no idea. Nobody knows. Yeah, but then he said for a long time, and then I started hearing the same thing as you, pal. Two and a half people outside the building, dude. You saw two of them on that screen. You were the third stooge. Odd man out. I don't know who the half person was. You saw two of them on that screen. You were the third stooge.

Odd man out. I don't know who the half person was. We'll see. Hey, man, if Trey Lance goes three, I will be happy for you. I will. I'll be so pumped. Oh, yeah. Oh, my God.

What a moment. How am I going to? The dopamine dump. Oh, my God. How am I going to last another 29 picks? I'm going to have to end the show after that, to be honest. Fucking victory lap, dude. Round the house. Round Tampa. Get the backpack connect thing.

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point which has to by the way because here we are with this thing everything's starting to happen that we thought could potentially happen. And there's even more shit potentially in the works that we could have never even dreamed of happening just a week ago. AJ, it is a great Draft Spectacular Day. Happy Draft Spectacular Day to you, AJ. Yeah. Hey, happy Draft Spectacular to all of you as well.

I was just thinking, compared to other sports, the NFL Draft absolutely crushes any draft that's ever happened, I feel like. The NBA draft, I guess, gets a little hype, but other than that, where do we go? That's what I was about to say. The NBA fans are like, the lottery. It's so much fun to come out and they do the ball thing. It's like, all right, okay. It's rare.

All right, okay, yeah. They're waiting the balls, okay. They're putting things in there, obviously. They actually shoved one back down. No, no, not you. I's rare. All right, okay, yeah. They're waiting the balls, okay? They're putting things in there, obviously. They actually shoved one back down. No, no, not you. I don't know how you made it up here. Which, by the way, there's incredible athletes and names that will become household names in time

and already studs that get drafted in the NBA, okay? But we all kind of know who's going, and if we don't, we don't care. If it's some guy, Lithuania comes out of nowhere. It's like, okay, all right, Okay, understand. But we all kind of know who's going, and if we don't, we don't care. If it's some guy, Lithuania comes out of nowhere, it's like, okay, all right, cool, man. Let me see if you can

do what everybody else can do on NBA court. I hope you good luck. The NFL, though, 32 teams, 32 passionate fans, every single pick, everybody kind of feels

as if their entire team's success rides on it. Your team can make a play the NFL draft spectacular spectacle that has become uh the NFL draft is awesome and I think this is the NFL printing money it's the biggest show in town in every town that is what the NFL is they know it too I mean there's 110 billion or something 10 years 10 years 110 billion or some number they just signed. Is that the number?

Yeah. I just said it aloud for the first time in a couple weeks. It clicked. $110 billion deal for the next 10 years the NFL just signed. And that's just, that's pre every other streaming network getting involved. They dominate everything. And it's because, AJ, it's the greatest sport there is. It is such a great sport.

It's easy to see why everybody on earth and hopefully everybody on earth is what Roger Goodell's goal would be falls in love with everything there's so much drama right now there's so much drama there is like a certain feeling of anxiety I assume among some fan bases that some things could pop off and it is just unbelievable I know the soccer hooligans very much love their sport. I love it. I absolutely love it. But I think if when you were a kid, you were introduced to our football,

you would have fell in love with that one immediately. I just think if my intel on European folks, which is a tough, hilarious group of people, and soccer is so long because I think they just want to get away from everybody and go do something. I think they would have fallen in love with football as well. But, man, tonight is going to be awesome. There's going to be, what, 10 million people that are going to watch at least.

There's going to be more than that probably. You know what's a shame is, so Trevor Lawrence has been far and away the number one pick for a long time now. It's almost like everyone just wants to, hey, let's go, let's go, get past that. We don't care. People don't even probably care to see him with Raj other than his family and friends. So, unfortunately for him, maybe that's good though.

Maybe a little less pressure. He's watching in Clemson actually. So that whole thing, Urban Meyer standing in his brand new facility that got built overnight or whatever for him. He's literally standing on a FaceTime probably or a Zoom

right to Roger Goodell. Right to the Trevor Zoom. Hi! Yay! Some pre-packaged video of that girl on TikTok that looks exactly like him will make its way out somewhere. Oh, yeah.

There'll be some stories. There'll be a quick interview. And then it'll be just those first two formalities at this point, it feels like. That thing's going to go quick. When it gets to pick number three, especially with the drama today, think about what the networks are going to do with this, what the NFL is going to do with this.

I mean, it is going to be – the clock is going to hit zero. The pick is going to be in, and there's going to be a commercial break. There is going to be a hold. They're going to hold on to that. And then every pick from then on, it's like if a trade happens, I think they're going to wait until that clock gets all the way down to announce it. Like I think we are sitting in it for those first ten picks where it's like, here we go.

The first two, though, to your point, I think we're all like, come on, come on, come on. Get over it. Congrats, Trevor. You're awesome. Way to go. Congratulations. All your hard work has paid off. Congrats.

Not a lot of number ones overall. Okay, that's insane you did that. Zach, what's the way to go, man? Way to go, Zach. Way to go, Zach. Really proud of you. All that hard work paid off and that's a row by the way whoo awesome man you're good luck in new york we hope you do well the jets fans deserve it but now let's get to the show yeah i'll start you're right aj you're 100 right hey but if you're jacksonville or new york

you're the jets of the first couple picks they put say they put 10 minutes on the clock people say oh they know what you're doing once you turn't you turn your pick in? But no, if you're the Jacksonville owner, you're a part of the franchise, that's like 10 minutes of good pub with tons and tons of eyeballs that you need for your team. Wow, I didn't even think about that. That's 100% right. You want them talking about your team. That's like when everybody's tuned in.

Yeah, I'd be like, if I'm shotgun, I'm like, you take nine minutes and 59 seconds. They need to talk about us. Let's see how many good stats they dug up about this franchise. Now, granted, that could turn bad, too, if they're talking about your team, especially if you're a shotgun in the Jaguars. You know, this team has been terrible for a long time. You know, it could turn into like a roast sesh almost.

But then, obviously, with Urban meyer it's going to go it's going to be a full urban meyer conversation but i didn't even think about that you get 10 marketing prime time is it 10 minutes yeah i think early on yeah in the first i think every pick in the first round is 10 minutes that's why this is that seven hour thing yeah uh-huh fuck dude yeah you're 100 the first, 15 to 20 will probably use all. I mean, shit, they all might use the full 10 minutes. For a potential trade, too, especially in the back half. Yeah.

Everybody's potentially going to wait the entire time, seeing if anybody wants to trade up, gets a little bit of a feel or something like that. Oh, my God. We're in it for tonight. Hey, we are in it. When I say I hope that dopamine dump after Trey Lance at three, you know, that's probably going to, you know, give me, I hope we can survive.

Tonight is going to be, and if you're watching along at youtube.com forward slash the Pat McAfee show at 7.30 Eastern Standard Time, our draft spectacular will kick off. We have a GM who does have a first round draft pick tonight joining us at 7.40. Should be a good tone setter for the evening.

But if that thing hits at three, I don't know how I'm going to finish it. All right? But if you're watching, you don't know how I'm going to finish it. All right? But if you're watching, you don't have to watch the entire time. No, no, no. No, listen, if this thing gets boring, go ahead and bounce around. Come back. You know you're going to be able to come back.

We'll be here. Oh, yeah. We are going to be here. And if you want to ride for the entire nine-hour affair, this is going to be in Cleveland tonight. I mean, last year, AJ, do you remember us all coming to the realization around pick nine or ten maybe? Like, holy fuck.

We're in it. We aren't even a third through this thing. Tonight is a marathon. We all know that. Tonight, a lot of things are going to happen. And if you don't stay for the entire time, it's all good. You might miss a giveaway or two.

You might. Or three. Yeah, there's actually going to be three giveaways. But I'm just saying, if you miss a little bit, you might miss it. There might be four giveaways. You might just miss them. I don't know. Don't hold me to that.

No. That has not been decided. And we don't know what we're giving away yet. But we'll figure it out as we go live. We'll make it happen. Probably some Oculi. Yeah. Why not?

Give away some Oculi. You know what I mean? Probably give away some AirPods. Some merch. I'll give away some merch tonight, probably, to the viewers. AJ's going to give away $20,000. Yeah, because he lost. I mean? Probably give away some AirPods. Some merch. I'll give away some merch tonight probably to the viewers. AJ's going to give away $20,000. Yeah, because he lost. Here we go.

Let's have a night tonight, AJ. Let's get excited. It's going to be a long one though, AJ. How are you going to battle just 400 cigars? And I'll be all right, man. I saw ESPN has it scheduled in the guide from 8 to 11.30. Is this something that normally goes over? There are a lot of times.

We were definitely in midnight. Were we not? Oh, yeah. It goes midnight oh yeah we were definitely it's going over it's like recorded with extended time option you know what i mean you get one of those like hey they do this every year this ain't the way it goes it's this thing especially tonight with the way the world is you're going to record with extra time and they go 30 minutes or they even go like an hour hour and a half what do you think it's probably go down to the hour one if I had to guess. This one, it was so long last year. Is it raining? Hey, is it raining in Cleveland?

It's been pouring in Columbus right now. Great question. Good transition. You are looking live in Cleveland, Ohio, the host of tonight's NFL Draft. We'll be watching alongside as decisions are made in this beautiful city, right here in Ohio, right on Lake Erie, we do believe. A town that has been home to the Dog Pound for a long, long, long time. You are looking live at a rainstorm, which is very symbolic of what the bronze organization was for a long time until Andrew Barry arrived in the, some people used to say,

the mistake on the lake. I would never say that. I would never, ever say that. Arrived in Cleveland, Baker Mayfield and the boys turned the whole thing back around. This is the city where it all goes down tonight, Cleveland, Ohio, A.J. Hawk. Looks beautiful, man, especially on that big LED screen you have behind you. Yeah, it took a little bit to get it up there.

You know, Zito had to dive through the Internet real quick to get back to the website that has an ongoing shot of Cleveland, and they have commercial breaks. So 10 seconds every time. So we found it, though. Did you see the commercial for the draft? They said the greatest city in Ohio. Oh, wow. Yeah, the NFL released the commercial.

I don't know if it was from the NFL or ESPN. I don't know who released the commercial, but it said live from the greatest city in Ohio. And I was like, wow. Oh, my God. Cincinnati took it right on the shins. Even when they were making the commercial, they were like, there's no indoor practice facility.

Exactly. Can't do it. Can't say Cincy. We can't do it. People love the Cleveland practice facility. And then everybody in Columbus is like, yo, people say it's like a small, clean Chicago over here. The Ohio State Buckeyes, the most successful team in the state,

are right here in Columbus, and that's where A.J. Hawk fucking lives. Right. Whoever made the commercial was like, nah, those cities fucking stink, dude. And Cleveland. We're going to Cleveland and Hawk because Cleveland rocks. Cleveland rocks. Cleveland rocks. Your thoughts, Ty?

Well, I'm guessing they didn't put Columbus up because of A.J.'s best friend, Len Waxman, or whatever the guy who loves Epstein. What's his name? He got it. Len Waxman. Nailed it. No. What's his name? He got it. Len Waxman. Nailed it. No. What's your buddy's name, Adrian?

He's not my buddy. The billionaire's name is Les Wexner. So you do know. It's close. Jay Glazer has tweeted out at 2.07 p.m. A few teams have called the Packers about trading for Aaron Rodgers. Okay. Holy shit.

Okay. Okay. Holy shit. Okay. Okay. So earlier today we heard Bill Michaels. Okay. Willie Mike tweeted out that he heard from PA on the mic. Right. Who is the Minnesota Vikings

PA guy. I believe announcer or anything. So he's probably doing a skull. Skull. Skull. Skull. I'm. PA announcer or anything. So he's probably doing a skull. Skull. Skull. Skull. I'm not doing the horn again. It was so good last time I'm not doing it again.

He reported, they reported this morning in what could have been a smokescreen that the San Francisco 49ers allegedly offered Jimmy Garoppolo, the number three overall pick, other players, other picks, to the Green Bay Packers for Aaron Rodgers. Okay? Jimmy Garoppolo, the number three overall pick, other players, other picks, to the Green Bay Packers for Aaron Rodgers. Okay? San Francisco, obviously, Northern California up there, Santa Clara. Aaron Rodgers has saved like 100 businesses up there with a fundraiser. He loves Butte County.

He was a fan, I assume, of the Niners. Now, this comes a decade and a half past them passing him up, which would be an interesting situation. But the Niners-Aaron Rodgers talk makes a lot of sense if that was to happen. But there's no way the Packers do this, right? And if they do, who do they get? How do they feel at three? But if it's not the Niners, is it somebody now? Jay Glazer's saying, well, multiple teams have done it.

It's like, is this going to happen? Is Aaron Rodgers going to get traded today on Draft Spectacular Day? Are you kidding me? Yeah, I mean, I sure as shit hope not. But if they were going to do it, like that Niners deal seems like it actually makes sense in terms of like value that they would get back. Like as you slip closer to, you know, being out of the top 10,

like does that make sense for the Packers? It seems like they're really not getting enough in return, whereas, you know, in that Niners trade, they could maybe actually, like, stomach that. The Arrow, Tom Pelissero has tweeted out, speaking of stomaching something, the 49ers reached out to the Packers on Wednesday about trading for Aaron Rodgers,

but no formal offer was made. And a source said there is a 0% chance that green Bay deals, the reigning NFL MVP that was tweeted out at 1. PM. Okay. So Tom Pellicero, the arrow works for the NFL. Neuralink has the neural link of the NFL in there.

He says that four hours did, did reach out. And now that makes everybody think, is that why the 49ers went up to three? Did they go up to three because they thought there was three good players? Or did they think, hey, that is awfully enticing for the Green Bay Packers if they get number three. Tom Pellicero, Packers general manager Brian Gutekunst said this week,

Aaron is our guy. He's going to be our quarterback for the foreseeable future. The 49ers still shot their shot before presumably taking a QB with the number three pick tonight. Tom Pellicero, listen, this is the thing about you. This is, Tom, this is the thing about you. Tom, Tom, we love Tom. Love Tom.

Tom reads every memo the NFL sends out. It doesn't matter if it's 70 pages long. He reads it out, and he knows why the NFL is deciding to do everything that they do there for the foreseeable future whenever they said that if they were to trade them today that would have been a few days that could have been the foreseeable future tom tom don't take anything these motherfuckers say for real yeah can't do it you just can't do it aj hey pat but okay why would the packers want the number three overall pick they're going to take a quarterback in the

first round back-to-back years and admit the mistake. Then you admit this mistake that you made. If you took a quarterback last year and you traded up for him, then you're going to trade away the reigning MVP just to get the number three overall pick. Who do you take? Hold on. You get the number three overall pick.

Then you bundle that with Jordan Love. Or if you like Jordan Love, you keep Jordan Love. Then you try to bundle that with something else and make another move maybe for somebody. That's what I would do. It could. It's just stupid. If it would happen, it's stupid to even think about them trading Aaron away.

But also, you only do that. The number three pick, yeah, that would be interesting. What do you do with that? Jay Glazer said, hey, multiple teams have called the Packers about trading. So why are these teams calling? Are they just reading headlines? Why not? Are they listening to this show?

Are they thinking? No, because Brandon Bean, remember, Bill's general manager, said if we think there's a chance, we'll reach out and say, hey, is there anything going on? It seems like there's maybe a dispute, a contract, which I guess everybody probably in the NFL knows. Like, how have they not signed this guy? Why have they not done that?

I wonder if as you get closer to the draft, people are calling the backers and saying, hey, I know we reached out before you said no. We got a pretty good package here. We get you the draft. You can turn the team around. I wonder if that's happening. If you're Aaron Rodgers, I have no idea how you feel about it. I have no clue how you feel about it.

But the fact that they have not gotten a long deal done, that's wild I think to everybody. And all these GMs are like, can we fucking get Aaron Rodgers at this point. That's who we'd like. And I can see Shanahan and Lynch going, we can get fucking Rodgers. Yeah, we want to get Rodgers. And they've stunk for a long time, right? The Niners?

Yeah. Super Bowl. Oh shit. Outside of that. That's on me. Not since Kaepernick was the quarterback. But with that team, with how good they are, you put the NFL MVP on that team with how good they are you put the NFL MVP on that team and listen we're not saying we think it's gonna happen okay we're just we're going speculating speculating that is potentially happening so we have to make that clear to Packers fans that we don't we're not saying but you put Aaron Rodgers on that team

with Shanahan who I assume Shanahan and Aaron are gonna have very good conversations at a high level that not a lot of people just like the the floor, just like the floor. Okay. Super offensive guru. That would be on. They, now you're going to talk about, okay, Tom and Aaron in the NFC,

you know, Patrick Mahomes and Carson Wentz in the, in the AFC. You know, that's all you got to talk about. That's all you got to really talk about in the AFC, but in the NFC, what then green Bay Packers would have to stare that down for what next six,

seven years. How long is Aaron going to play? There's no way they trade him to the NFC. There's no way they want to have to stare that down in the playoffs if they ever want to have success that is notable ever again. There's a chance dude's going to play for 10 more years. By the way, I think people would think that Aaron Rodgers, if they trade him away, would have a chip on his shoulder.

It's like, oh, I'm going to bury you for 10, 20, maybe 30 more years. I thought I could see the 18th. I remember he said that. I think I could see the 18th. Turns out, I haven't even made the turn yet. I'm starting to feel a little bit better. I'm starting to feel, that would be insane if that was to happen. If Aaron was to get traded on draft spectacular day, okay,

and I have not talked to Aaron, AJ might have. AJ, hey. AJ, you? No, I have not spoken to him. You will, though, soon. Okay. And I have not talked to Aaron. AJ, AJ, AJ. No, I have not spoken to him. You will though soon. Yeah. How are you going to avoid me? Pete Schrager in your phone when you're at Kentucky Derby tomorrow with Aaron saying, Hey, Hey, can we get some information? Can we get some information? What's going on down there? You know what I mean?

But neither of us have smoked him, I would assume. This shit all just popped today. I did not. We don't know if AJ has or not. We have no idea if he's talking about this or if AJ's just talking about him maybe with the derby trip. Like, hey, I'll bring four or 5,000 cigars down this year. You can have one or two.

You know, that whole thing. But if he gets traded, that would be fucking insane, dude. It would be crazy. Yeah, there aren't a whole lot of certainties or things that we can promise, but I can promise that if Rodgers gets traded tonight, you guys will have to take my lifeless body out of the pool because I will walk in there and drown myself. Okay, let's get to a break.

Make sure we get some film of that. Yeah, we'll set up a camera. Yeah, we got an extra camera. You will not die in vain. No. Well, I appreciate that. We will. We will get a good clip out of it.

To your point, too, with Shanahan, you know, I mean, LeFleur, Shanahan, Tree, kind of reinvented his career this last year. MVP season. Maybe go to the guy who created a lot of those concepts. Not great. Packers fans wokeoke up this morning Thought this whole thing Was behind us

Yeah Last year was terrible Thought it was all behind us Okay They woke up this morning This motherfucker And he's the MC Of the Vikings

This guy And then And all of a sudden Palisaro's like Hey Calls have happened And then Jay Glazer gets in And Jay Glazer's like

Multiple teams have called And if Jay gets in That's when you know Jay Jay knew. Jay knows. Teams can call all they want, but we haven't heard if the Packers are listening yet. You know, that is very true.

True. But when you alienate the guy at every turn for the last year and a half, you could wonder that maybe he's ready to get the fuck out of there. Is Jeopardy, he'd be able to move to Santa Clara, right? If he was to go to the Niners? They just moved the studio. I would assume so, yeah. I don't know if we're going to move to Green Bay.

No way. I don't know if they'll move. I don't know if they'll move the Jeopardy studio to Green Bay. I don't trust them. Oh, yeah, because somebody at Pro Football Focus said, keep an eye out for Chicago. What is that? What the fuck does that mean, pal? We are!

Keep an eye out. Like what? What do you mean? For what? I love that guy, too. I actually enjoy following that guy, but that's sweet. Come on, man. Hey, listen. I would. I think if you were the Bears head coach or GM, you're like, alright, I'm

doing what I'm getting. Like, I'm selling out right now because I may be fired in three months. I'm doing all in right now. The Chicago Bears already offered up, allegedly, multiple first-rounders, players, second-rounders for Russell Wilson. So you would think maybe draft night they could accept it. I got a question for Ty. Ty, how would you react if the Packers traded Aaron to the Bears?

I mean, I'd hate it, but guess what? I've always loved Chicago. Oh, geez. I've always loved the city of Chicago Aaron to the Bears. I mean, I'd hate it, but guess what? I've always loved Chicago. Oh, geez. I've always loved the city of Chicago. That's unbelievable. I think a lot of people would feel that way, by the way. If the Packers were like, yeah, end of division, go ahead, do it. We'll trade you after an MVP season.

I think a lot of Packers fans would be like, well, y'all motherfuckers fucking up. Yeah, you can't do that. That is disrespectful to our fanhood. Listen, we are part owners of this damn thing. That's right. We invest a lot of do that. That is disrespectful to our fanhood. Listen, we are part owners of this damn thing. That's right. We invest a lot of money here. We've had a beautiful run.

What you just chose to do to our fanhood is spit on. Yeah, it'd be the ultimate slap in the face. Yeah, I'm in Chicago. We'll see him two times a year. Ain't that fun? Yeah. Damn. I'd be a bear.

Listen. I'm team 12. I've said this. Team 12. I've said it. I'm team 12. I love the Packers. I am team 12. Oh, my I've said it I'm team 12 I love the Packers I am team 12

Oh my god Ty Ty's die hard now Ty's been around Devontae Devontae hasn't signed His extension either No he hasn't

Is Devontae waiting I don't know Jesus I don't know Oh and then he goes How bad would that be If all of a sudden What about Aaron Jones

Aaron somehow got traded Which would be stupid If Devontae And Aaron Rodgers Get dropped into that shanahan offense in san francisco oh jeez call it you got to though by the way they're both going now well that's what he ty was just like he went to fresno state yeah that's what we're this is just all speculation but this is what draft day spectacular you get it is this is what this is is what draft day spectacular you get it is this is what this is reigning mvp aaron rogers is so disgruntled with green bay packers that he has told some within the organization that he does not want to return to the team league and team sources

told espn on thursday more on nfl live now okay so chef d is now reporting that aaron rogers has told the Packers he's not happy with being a Green Bay Packer. What you heard there at the beginning of a reading is Ty Schmidt's soul leaving his body. The diehard Green Bay Packer fan now has to stare down a potential future without Aaron Rodgers. Now, will this be something that will be able to be rekindled?

Will a flame be able to be relit like what happened with Russell Wilson and Pete Carroll? Will Aaron Rodgers and the Green Bay Packers be able to get through this? Or will the fact that a long-term deal has not been struck? And last year, they traded into the first round to draft his replacement. Is this at the point of time that this has all come to a head and Aaron Rodgers' Green Bay Packers is over? It sure feels like is that going to happen? By the way, did not know this was happening.

This is not what I thought it was going to be. So whenever that thing pops up there, wild time to be alive. AJ, have you talked to Aaron Rodgers yet? And how much of this do you know of being accurate? And is this potential? What the hell is going on, you think? Well, I mean, I hate to kill anything for you, but I have not spoken to him about this.

I don't know. I'm learning just like you from Schefter. But I'm just trying to think. Like, if he tells the Packers he does not want to return, that's not a guarantee that he's not going to be in Green Bay next year. But it sounds like they have a lot to work through ty ty ty what's going on dude i mean you alienate the fucking guy no wonder he doesn't want to fucking come back he's done it's over that's the end of it that's the end of it when you say alienate what do you mean by that every opportunity

you've had to piss this guy off, they've done with bells and whistles. It's like, hey, what can we do today to maybe get Rodgers the fuck out of here? Oh, I get it. Let's call a press conference and say, hey, he's going to be our quarterback for the foreseeable future. But, you know, I mean, we don't know. Hey, let's not give him any money.

He doesn't have any guaranteed money left on his contract. Let's just kind of leave that sitting pat. He's not going to give a shit about that. He just won an MVP. What does he have to be mad about? I mean, it's just, you know, goddamn negligence from the top of the organization to the bottom. I don't blame the guy.

It pains me to say it. It hurts. But, I mean, listen, the writing's been on the wall for a while. We've known this, okay? We've known that something needed it. You had to do something. You got to do something. You had to do something. And they didn't do a goddamn thing.

So I don't blame them. I don't blame them. Okay. And that's Ty, obviously, immediate reaction there in the moment. Hey, Ty. You're going to be all right, dude. It's all right, Ty. Ty, it's going to be all right, Ty.

Okay. I don't know about the Packers. I don't know about the Packers and Aaron Rodgers. Oh, he's gone. They're going to fucking stink for a long time. And I do believe that is the fear of a lot of Packers fans. I think Aaron Rodgers has potentially been covering up a lot of maybe warts or things like that. Devontae Adams also does not have a long-term deal either.

So Aaron Rodgers has told people with any organization he's not happy being a Green Bay Packer. What does that mean? Who did he talk to? This would be a cool time to have Aaron Rodgers call into the show. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen. I'm joking. God, did you know that?

That would be awesome. For a second there. Hey, that's fucked up I did. What was the more on NFL Live there that Schefter referred to at the end of his tweet? Does anybody know? Do we have any idea? There was a tweet sent in. Adam Schefter said that. It's the article that I sent in yeah packers gm coach and ceo mark murphy have flown out multiple times to meet with aaron rogers and convince him to come back and rogers quote has not budged on his stance oh shit hey the article read the article too connor the article's got a lot of

what chef he just said on nfl live it over. You don't have to read the article. It's over and done. I'll read the article. He's gone. Here we go. I would like to know. This is insane. What a wild time to be alive.

Here's the article. Okay, can you zoom out on this thing? We'll read this thing. Adam Shefter, zoom in a little bit more there. Reigning MVP Aaron Rodgers is so disgruntled with the Green Bay Packers that he has told some within the organization that he does not want to return to the team league and team sources told ESPN on Thursday the Packers are aware of his feelings concerned about them and have had team president Mark Murphy general manager Brian

Guntekunst and head coach Matt LaFleur each fly out on separate trips to meet with Rodgers at various points as offseason sources told ESPN as we've stated since the season ended we are committed to Aaron in 2021 and beyond Gunter Kutz Stolte ESPN. Aaron has been a vital part of our success and we look forward to competing for another championship with him leading our team. Rodgers has not budged this offseason, but neither have the Packers who have made it known they are not interested in trading Rodgers anywhere. The San Francisco 49ers called the Packers on Wednesday night. A source told ESPN in the Los Angeles Rams inquired about Rodgers in January

before they got Matthew Stafford. The Packers quickly dismissed the Rams' overtures. The source said the Packers have offered to extend Rodgers' contract, sources told ESPN. Whoa. Rodgers unhappy for a variety of reasons, with some of it dating back to last year's draft when the Packers didn't inform him before trading up to draft a quarterback.

With their first-round pick. Some took this as a sign that his days in the Green Bay could be numbered. He also is at a different point in his personal life. Having recently gotten engaged to actor Shailene Woodley, Rodgers also has hosted Jeopardy and said it would be a dream to become full-time host. Okay, dude. On draft night, the Packers' biggest issue isn't who they land but whether they can

keep the former nfl mvp did not know schefter was like a writer like that i thought he was just a uh newsbreaker what's that i guess um this is very fascinating now oh that's rob damoski also damoski uh has contributed to this report shout out to rob domovsky aj your thoughts on it i did not know any of this was happening this is wild to me to think that the packers have gone out there in green bay and aaron's like not but it seems like whoever shepherd's getting his information from certainly he's painting the picture as if the packers were trying to do this thing and maybe it was uh uh too little too late i don't know i'm excited to hear how this whole thing is going to pan out here eventually, probably over the next couple hours, I'd assume.

So the timing, though, why is this coming out right now, do you think? Yeah, because you would think that came from the team side there, that particular information. I don't know, though, but if Aaron wants out, I guess the team, they could leak it out. So, like, if they feel feel i don't know i just feel like the packers how could they there's no way they're giving up on us and hey yeah we're getting rid of them they're gonna do whatever they can to try to keep them did that not sound

slanted though from the packers organ sound like there was information from the packers right they've done everything they can we each flew out separately and we dismissed it quickly and everything maybe they're making like a large announcement like, hey, to everybody that is calling or thinking there's a problem going through Sheffield, we are not trading Aaron Rodgers. And who knows how Aaron feels. But also, we don't know why that information is being leaked by whoever at this particular point. Atta boy, Dove.

Dove Kleiman. Atta boy, Dove. Dove Kleiman at NFL underscore Dove Kleiman. He was sitting on this ready for this. Bill Belichick with Aaron Rodgers in New England. Would Bill Belichick give the Green Bay Packers enough for them to get off their stance that they've allegedly been on via Adam Schefter's article there on ESPN.com that they aren't budging? This is fascinating, Ty. Fascinating times here in Green Bay.

And Aaron Rodgers coming off an MVP season potentially is like, nah, I ain't fucking going anymore. I'm done with it. I'm tired of it. There's been a lot of conversation. And Ty pointed out there before we read the entire thing. There's been a lot of situations where previous GMs or people around the NFL have gone, if we had fucking Aaron Rodgers, right, we'd be doing bah, bah, bah, bah, bah. If we had fucking Aaron Rodgers, right, we'd be doing bah, bah, bah, bah, bah. And I would assume that somebody has told Aaron, like, hey,

do you not think it's bullshit, like, what's going on with Tom down there? Like, what they're doing to build up that team around Tom Brady to make him, he's probably going to win a couple more Super Bowls. Yeah. Do you see what Patrick Mahomes is getting over there? You've met Patrick Mahomes. Obviously, you guys do state farm commercials together. He's a good guy. He's a good guy.

He's just doing everything you're doing. Do you see what they're doing in Kansas City? They just got him 10 fucking weapons. The team's ready to go. They're going all in for this thing. Do you see what you guys have done? Nothing really to go all in in this very new football world. Now, if you're a Packers fan, you can say, hey, this is how the Packers have always done it.

We've always had sustained success. But with Aaron Rodgers, with his contract looking the way it was looking going into the season, they let it happen. After them trading up to say to say hey get the fuck out of town too with jordan love here's the guy that's going to replace you and then watching what's going on around the nfl you could see how aaron's potentially pissed off i just didn't know that he was pissed off because i don't think any of us had ever heard that yeah i mean the writing's kind of been on the wall like uh i basically said that verbatim last year when they drafted jordan love you know it's like a you know whether he says it or not,

obviously this is going to piss the guy off. And even if you take away the, hey, not getting all these weapons or whatever, if you treat someone like shit for long enough and kind of just drag their name through the press and everything like that, you're treating the guy like he's a C-lister, a D-lister, when he just won an MVP. Guess what? That's going to rub some people the wrong way.

So I don't think, I don't know. I mean, obviously, I definitely did not expect to see this today, but it's not like I'm completely shocked and taken aback. Can't thank you enough for choosing to listen to the show. The fact that you do, I am eternally grateful for. We told you big shit was popping off. Hey, and now guess what tomorrow is? Fallout Friday.

Yeah. Okay, Fallout Friday. First round Fallout Friday. Okay? That's actually how we're going to... It's first round Fallout Friday tomorrow. Happy we just got that. That's what we're going to do tomorrow.

Which means it's going to be big. We got... I'm not breaking the... We have a big guest tomorrow big guest on tomorrow can't wait uh for you to get a chance to hear those conversations and uh hopefully uh tell friends that it's not a complete waste of time to listen to this show we appreciate you so much have an incredible first round tonight we'll see you tomorrow be a friend friend. Ty, please play some independent music and propel these people into a beautiful draft spectacular evening. Cheers. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. you