The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 406 - The Aaron Rodgers Fallout, Colts Owner Jim Irsay, & Insider AJ Hawk

Episode Date: May 3, 2021

On today['s show, Pat and the boys chat about the fallout from the NFL Draft and what the deal with Aaron Rodgers is, as his situation with the Packers stole all the headlines from the weekend while at the Kentucky Derby. Joining the show to break down everything from over the weekend, is a man that was at the Kentucky Derby and was with Aaron Rodgers, new Insider, AJ Hawk. Pat and AJ chat about where he thinks Aaron's head out, what he thought of the weekend, what the vibe was like, and ultimately, in AJ's opinion, what he thinks the next few weeks, or months will look like for the Packers and for Aaron. (19:43-43:48, 1:12:02-1:32:12). Also joining the program is billionaire, and Owner of the Indianapolis Colts, Jim Irsay to chat about his life and how he moved up the ladder in the NFL, what it was like being the GM of a team at a very young age, who some of the guys who looked up to in the league were, his philanthropy and the Kick the Stigma campaign which is focusing on mental health, what his favorite piece of music memorabilia that he owns, and much more (45:38-1:10:53). Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow and listen every day on Mad Dog Radio, Sirius XM Channel 82. We appreciate you all for listening, come and laugh with us, cheers.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello, Monday, May 3rd, beautiful day, some good conversation, can't thank you enough for stopping by. We have some inside information, we have a good convo with a billionaire. I mean, today is a good day to have a great day, can't thank you enough for allowing us to penetrate your earholes. If you like this show, by the end of it, please be a friend and tell a friend about it. If not, just act like it never happened. Ty, hope you had an incredible bachelor party weekend. It was great, thank you. A lot of fun. Great to have you back. Good to be back.

And to everybody else, let's get to this thing. Monday is obviously a massive day because a lot of things happen over the weekend that we get a chance to chat about. For instance, Medina Spirit 12-1 in the Kentucky Derby. Congratulations to Medina. Now, were the Ponies important to this Kentucky Derby. Congratulations to Medina. Now, were the ponies important to this Kentucky Derby weekend? Of course. And I had no idea that a dead heat was actually a real thing.

When a horse ties another horse nose for nose, there's two winners of a horse race. It's a dead heat. Blah, blah, blah. I learned all that. Now, I also learned that at the Kentucky Derby, humans were back. More specifically, star-studded humans. To be more exact after that, Tom Brady was there with his crew.

Of course. Baker Mayfield, I think, was with that crew. Saw that. Seemed like the Tom Brady crew was having a good time. Julian Edelman was there. Amendola was there. A lot of people were there. Not as much conversation about them

other than how good tom brady looked dressing now there was another crew you see that was down in louisville down at churchill grants bats dance dance on the grounds of the churchill dance yep aaron rogers and crew were there yeah a. Aaron Rodgers looking incredibly happy alongside Shailene Woodley and his group of friends down there, including that dude from Philadelphia. Yeah. Miles Teller. Miles Teller. I don't know how he made it in there. Good for him.

Ty, you should have been in there, hopefully. But good for him. And their ladies were there. It was a big weekend. Everybody was talking about you know aaron rogers had a hat on because i believe the hair is potentially getting longer he looked incredibly happy big smiles uh he looked very thin i think from the photo he looked incredible shape there i don't know what's going on uh and then when he gave an interview with a horse uh

crew i don't know who it was he had a name tag on it said turd ferguson yeah okay he had a turd ferguson name on. NBC's Mike Tirico asked to speak to him. He goes, no, thank you, sir. Mike Tirico goes, after speaking to Turd Ferguson, he has told us that he is disappointed that this entire rift has gone public. So the entire storyline of the Kentucky Derby is obviously the most, what, electric two minutes in sports or whatever.

Way to go, Medina. Incredible. Thank you, Medina. Wow. Hey, wow. Way to run out there. But the storyline I took away from the whole thing is, okay, Aaron's there. They had zoom-in shots of him.

He was up over the ledge. Everybody wants to know what the hell is going on with him. And I'm here to tell you that today we will be having a conversation with A.J. Hawk. Whoa, whoa. Who was in the photo, the infamous photo. we will be having a conversation with AJ Hawk. Whoa! Who was in the photo, the infamous photo. His gnarly fingers were in that infamous photo. I guess I don't know what to do with my hand.

Situation has happened with AJ Hawk in the photos that he has taken in the past at the Kentucky Derby. Him and Aaron have kind of, it's become like a tradition or whatever. Whatever the case, AJ's coming on the show today. And I talked to AJ yesterday via text message. I said, do you want off this week?

And he said, why? I said, because everything you, you were just with him at Kentucky Derby. And I don't know how much you talked to him. I actually said, I'm going to pepper you with questions. So you just need to let me know, whatever. Everything that AJ says about what Aaron potentially told him is going to get quoted and go. There are people who have sources that are saying there's less than a 5% chance that this ends with Aaron Rodgers as a Packer. Then there's people that are hopeful potential, optimistic that Gunter Kuntz and Aaron can reconsider.

Then there's other people that are like, Aaron's not sticking around if Gunter Kuntz is there. Everybody seems to have sources. Who the hell are all of these sources? We'll never know. A lot of people are saying, of course, Aaron Rodgers wanted to steal all the attention from draft. I think that article that we all read that kind of, you know, leaked all this information publicly, it feels like now, I'm sure if Schefter has come out and said this, and maybe we're not. That felt like that came from the Packers' point of view there. So Aaron saying to Mike Tirico he's disappointed this has gone public, I think that is also what we have to remember here.

Who's talking to who and why and how? We'll talk to AJ and his fucked up fingers after a day and a half or two with Aaron Rodgers to see what he has heard, what he is thinking, what his mindset is. We actually have a poll today asking the people, what do you think the future looks like for Aaron Rodgers? There's a couple options here. He's back with the Packers, which I think Packers fans would be incredibly pumped about. Doesn't seem likely.

Seems like every person that has an alleged source, wherever the hell their alleged source may be, who knows whose sources are talking to who. He might retire, though. You know what I mean? Oh, yeah. He might retire. And he might play somewhere else.

There is a lot of very fascinating outcomes to this entire thing. Our poll at youtube.com forward slash the Pat McAfee show on our community page is up and running right now. The leader in the clubhouse at 53% is Aaron Rodgers plays for another team. 18% of the people think that Aaron Rodgers retires. 29% think that Aaron Rodgers continues to play for the Packers and that's out of a pool of 14,000 people. So Aaron to another team is something I think everybody's assuming is going to happen. What if he retires? What if he stays with the Packers?

It is a conversation piece for sure. And for the foreseeable future. To use the Green Bay Packers words, not ours. Ty Schmidt, how do you feel about the whole thing? We saw Mad Mel Kuyper have to really react to a future with no aaron rogers over there it is taking over every conversation in the nfl right now even though there's a lot of young guys we will talk about oh yeah hey justin fields in chicago do we like it do we hate it got to talk about it we'll talk about mac jones running a four six something allegedly in his pro day how come that was never talked about until right now we'll also talk about mich Michael Vick still running a 4'7 at the age of 40.

Looks like he could still get on the field if he had to. But for a moment, Aaron Rodgers not being a Packer seems to be the majority of people's thoughts. Ty, will you just pick up your fanhood and go elsewhere? Because there's a lot of Packers fans out there saying, if you leave with Aaron, you never cared about the Packers to begin with. They're calling you a foop-gazy. And that's fine.

You know, it's fine because I'm not going to do anything drastic yet. But it is. I mean, we found out this information, what, right before the show started on Thursday. So I kind of just had to sit with it all day and, like, let it soak in. And you never really thought it was going to be real. But even, like, the draft, you know, I mean, it's hard to really – the Packers did a pretty good job. You know, they went out, they got got a receiver they got a couple linemen like they filled needs

that they they definitely needed to do but at the end of the day like until this thing gets resolved this is just a goddamn storm cloud over everything like it's hard to even you don't even want to think about packers or like the or football or anything because if rogers leaves time like it's just i mean you never thought like like we've talked about it like you you felt like you saw the writing on the wall and like that this was coming but then he actually played the year won the MVP it's like okay you know things are going to be put to rest now he's going to be a Packer for the rest of his career and then you know boom the nuclear option comes and everyone's just kind of shocked I mean I don't think anyone should be

because he's been pretty adamant, you know, about how he's felt disrespected up to this point. But it's just, boy, it is tough to swallow. It still almost doesn't seem real. All right, let's move on. Enough with the Aaron Rodgers potentially not a Packer talk for the moment. It will come back in about 50 minutes when A.J. Hawk joins us. Where I want to let you know, A.J., I think he enjoys this show.

I think he enjoys being a part of it every day. He's going to be in a hot seat today. Not today. That's the way it goes. Because I would like to know, too. Yeah. Because I'm going to have to speak about this for a little bit. And I'm not going to be the guy who goes to Aaron and says, hey, I need, give me this

scoop. You need to tell me what's going on. I'm not going to do that. That's just not how I operate. Maybe a couple more years in this business, it'll change me and I'll want to do that or whatever, but I don't. But AJ signed up to be that guy. AJ went on a goddamn

couples resort trip to Louisville, Kentucky with him. Like, hey, this is going to happen. Can't wait to chat. Maybe we'll get some more answers. Maybe we won't get anything. Excited to hear that. The fallout from the weekend with a couple different storylines. Philadelphia Eagles front office not on the same page, it appears,

with the drafting of Devontae Smith trading up and doing that. Although, the spin zone is that they stole a draft pick from the Giants, I believe. The Giants wanted Devontae Smith. The big video going around is when old Howie rolls over to, I think, Bill or Bob something, who's

the director of personnel goes to give him a fist bump after they just did the full rounds and this guy looks directly at his fist and goes get the fuck away from me i don't know he was just fed up he does not like it it was the beautiful depiction of what everybody thinks the philadelphia eagles front office looks like and it happened although i assume this is a regular, okay? I assume that in war rooms, they're called that for a reason. There are some potential casualties in that whole thing. There are some people's opinions that don't get accounted for as much as others. But that was beautiful to watch behind the scenes in Philadelphia.

And Eagles fans go, of course. Of course, the old guy who looks like he's been around football the longest hates what we just did. But it was there. A long snapper got drafted yep yeah to the carolina panthers uh logan fletcher incredible snapper from alabama i do believe and there was a moment caught on tape which by the way i love social media because this shit would have never gotten out in the past it's something that people probably wouldn't have deemed important

enough to put on network television or anything like that. A dream coming true whenever you have no idea. Whenever you're in that seventh round there, there's a lot of calls being made to players in their agents about, hey, undrafted free agency now. There's signing bonuses that are negotiated in the undrafted free agent. So there's some guys that actually, once they become a free agent, sign a signing bonus that is very equivalent to somebody who got drafted in the seventh round because now they have options on places to go and teams want different people so that's its own business in of itself this year I don't know how much because the OTA is being virtual and it's going to be tough to make it in that role but if you're a long snapper punter or kicker normally that seventh round you're praying to god you get drafted but a lot of it is hey which, which situation's best?

Which teams are interested? So Logan Fletcher, long snapper, Matt Rule, I assume he and Matt Rule have had a relationship via a workout or whatever has happened in the past. He obviously assumed that Matt Rule was trying to recruit him to come to Carolina as an undrafted free agent. He was like, you know, you're going to have to talk. I think there's some other beautiful moment.

Matt Rule and his new long snapper, Logan Fletcher, on draft day, seventh round. Hey, Fletch, what's up, bro? What's up, brother? You coming or what? Trying to figure it out right now. No, no, no, no. I just drafted you.

You coming or what? Are you kidding me? Yeah, bro. No, you did not. No, shit. Are you serious? Yeah, bro. No, you did not. No, shit. Are you serious? Yeah, man. Welcome to the Carolina Panthers.

Dude, chill out. Dude, chill out. I cannot wait to help you win, man. I cannot wait to help you win. I love it. That's awesome. So, like, literally, Matt Rule trolling him, too, by the way. Like, are you coming?

And he's like, Matt, I love you love you i appreciate you this is an awesome phone call but i've got a couple other places that need a long snapper no i just drafted you no shit what what a moment good for logan uh that's like the draft weekend that doesn't get talked about a lot late in the seventh round sixth round guys have no idea they were going to make it it is not everybody assumes that it's a fun weekend for everybody. And I assume it could be. I mean, Mac Jones, people were feeling bad for Mac Jones, by the way, because he dropped to 15 or whatever.

Everybody's like, oh, no, because there's a Brady Quinn. Same thing. Johnny Manziel. Same thing. There's guys that have no idea. They're just dropping all the way, by the way, right into fucking insurance salesman. Oh, I mean, there is. You know what I mean? There's a lot of people that are like,

am I going to get a shot? Am I going to get an opportunity? I hope so. Here we go. Logan Fletcher, that was an awesome moment. You get drafted as a long snapper, you're going to have a job for at least a year. Now, you're going to have to really fuck it up to lose your job.

But if you're getting drafted as a long snapper, they're investing capital in there, you're going to be in a good spot. At Boston Connor, Matt Jones walking as if he had just struck a deal at Shark Tank. He was just waiting for some sort of paralegal document to be signed all the way up to Roger Goodell to become the New England Patriot quarterback. I assume you thought, and we all thought, this was Bill's plan all along.

Of course. He's going to get Mac Jones, Mac Jones, Mac Jones. Then once we watched what was going on in the war room, and Robert Kraft and Bill Belichick and Matt Patricia, they did not seem sold on Mac Jones at all. No. At all. Robert Kraft had to go, we're all real excited.

He had to double down on that. They did not sound excited at all. Cam's a starter until Jarrett or Mac can keep up with this. How do you feel knowing now that it didn't really seem like they wanted Mac Jones? This was not a plan. Is this a new Patriots? What's going on over there? I'll be honest.

I was a little worried seeing the walk. And then you look further into it. His nickname is the Joker. And some people were saying he was doing the old Heath Ledger Joker rock. Honestly, a little more moxie for me, honestly. I feel good about it. We talked about it earlier. He ran a 4.68 at his pro day. Who knew? Who's that?

Mack Jones. That's faster than Michael Vick. That's faster than 40-year-old Michael Vick right now. Mack Jones has burners. I can't believe that that wasn't talked about leading up to it. But, I mean, hey, we didn't have to give up anything for him. You know, at least we took a quarterback instead of a, you know, D2 safety,

who's probably unbelievable either way. But it's just nice that we went offense and actually went with a QB that could potentially have a massive future. You might be dead, though, because Ernie's gone. Yeah, that's a bummer. But that even makes me feel better that every single draft pick this year was part of ernie's last draft so i'm expecting you know eight to ten pro bowls combined out of those guys that is that kind of came out of nowhere that ernie was retiring you you assumed he was at retirement age like

10 15 years ago yeah because he's always looked the exact same but whenever you're talking about you know like this super genius that's in the sky for the Patriots that everybody talks about as a secret weapon, a lot of players that have played there go like, oh, Ernie has come down to me and said like, hey, try this instead of this or whatever. He's just like this almost all knowing figure up there in new England. Now his name will always be inked with a lot of different situations as signal stealing and potential other stuff because he just seemed to be smarter than everybody.

But, man, I was always fascinated with this Ernie guy. And I thought to myself, how long can this fucking guy go? It seems like he's been going forever. Now we know this is the last year of old Ernie. Going to have to go get one for, what, his second ring finger? Yeah, win this one for Ernie. Is this one for Ernie? This one's for Ernie. You bring have to go get one for his second ring finger. Win this one for Ernie. Is this one for Ernie? This one's for Ernie. You bring in all those new players.

Julian Edelman retires. He's out of the building. Kyle Vannoy comes back, though. He's going to have to be the one that sets the tone. Like, hey, this one's for Ernie. I know you guys don't know him. This dude's an absolute legend up there. This one's for Ernie. Speaking of the Patriots, Julian Edelman has responded to us

responding to a conversation that happened on the nfl's draft-a-thon tom brady was sitting on a nine-way zoom with mark walberg julian edelman kevin hart i forget who else k k adams deon sanders anyways tom brady told the crowd uh that julian's not retiring he was just scared to tell belichick that he was coming down and he said i've been there and we were like whoa whoa whoa whoa so is tom you know kind of potentially hinting at he's going to try to recruit julian edelman out of retirement and maybe julian edelman right now although his knee hurts he'll find out maybe they'll figure out a way to to manage it a little bit better and is he going to come out of retirement and go down to where retired whites go down to Florida join Gronk Tom and the boys to try to win another Super Bowl we just started thinking like that would that would

make sense oh yeah that would make a lot of sense and then I kind of questioned Boston Connor I was like how do you feel if Julian does this and and and connor was like well then the foxborough forever is actually all bullshit or whatever yeah julian responded and said like hey bubs i ain't going anywhere hashtag foxborough forever yeah okay so connor exactly what you said i think kind of rang true with julian he's like there's the patriots fan he just said that me saying foxborough forever doesn't mean shit if i go and do this i want to let him know i'm with him he said i'm a i'm a patriot for the rest of my life that's right you were almost out on him being in the hall of fame remember oh yeah he was out on him now with that tweet are you all the way back

in first ballot i mean put the guy in the hall of tomorrow. I don't know what's taking so long. You're an absolute idiot. People go through many changes as we get older, isn't that right? Oh, yeah. Hell yeah. For men, one of the less fortunate changes is that testosterone production begins to naturally decrease in the body. Did you know this, AJ? I am aware. For most men, it begins around the age of 30, and testosterone production declines by roughly 1% per year.

My God. So if you live to 130, you ain't got shit left. No. Minus 30. Well, if it starts around 30, this is one of those questions on a test where, you know, begins around 30, and the testosterone production declines by roughly one percent per year so does it start at zero or does it start at 30 that's the thing this is where they can get you

it's one of them damn word problems this is one of those problems where you're like well wait a minute uh which can i ask a follow-up anyways i was good at those tests because i always viewed it as me the fucking teacher that's right okay i don't know what's going on, but this is me versus you. Fuck you. That's how I view it. That's why friends at Roman have a new supplement designed to support testosterone production. I did not know this.

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Let's try that stuff. Okay. I've been looking for that type of stuff. That's good news. That's what I want. Now we know. Hey, Roman. Thank you, Roman.

Thank you, Roman. Thank you, Roman. Hammer Down Boys are in here at Bubba Gumpino, at Tone Diggs, the COVID cowboy. Boys, so riding a hot streak, yeah? Yes, Robin. Hammer Down Boys are in here at Bubba Gumpino, at Tone Diggs, the COVID cowboy boy. So riding a hot streak, yeah? Yes, sir. Nine and five baseball this weekend. Okay, nine and five, Diggs.

Forgot how much I love betting the ponies. Oh, did you hit Medina Spirit? It's close. It did not hit Medina Spirit. Tony! Close, yeah, close. Close doesn't work. It matters in horse shoes, but not in horse racing.

That's right. Still a great day. Still a great day. I enjoyed watching the entirety of the races while, you know, kind of nodding in and out of sleep after Thursday night draft night, which, by the way, now that everybody's here, hey, thank you guys so much. I've been waiting for the Hammer Down boys to get in here, so I wanted you to know, Gumpy, I know you were working the ticker a little bit.

Diggs, I know you were trying to do your best to research everything. The boys in the back, everybody that was here, thank you guys so much for Thursday night. It was fucking fantastic. I hope you know that. I had a blast. It was a lot of fun, so thank you all for all your work. A man who also joined us on draft night, then hopped

in a car immediately to drive to be in a photo that would be seen across every single news market. Ladies and gentlemen, A.J. Hawk. What's up, man? How you doing? Just hanging out, bro. How are you? Oh, I see. What are you doing with your hand up like

that? What's that, man? I'm just, I saw this in TMZ. I saw this. I saw this on the E-Network. I saw this. Okay. I think Ryan Seacrest put it out. I heard Mike Tirico talking about it. I seen it on my social medias, your social media. Oh yeah, Chuck Robinson. I saw it on Charles Robinson. I saw it on everybody's social media. They're calling it the AJ Hawk claw. The claw photo. Get your claw claws up. Get your claw photo up.

You looked unbelievable, as did your wife. The entire crew looked incredible. How was the weekend, AJ? Let's talk about it. It was fun. It was a very short weekend for me. I don't know how this picture got out there anyway. Can we post it first? I actually don't. He said it was Takatari's family that leaked that whole thing.

It was his lady. It was on her Instagram. That's what Zito just said. So I don't know. I don't know how it got out. That is what Zito is alleging, which, by the way... I looked everywhere and found it. Nothing you can do about it if it is Takatari. There ain, nothing you can do about it if it is. Don't talk to Yari. There ain't nothing anybody can do about it either. But you look good in that photo.

Everybody looks so happy. Was it a happy vibe down there, or did everybody kind of get the vibe like, oh, there's a lot of shit being talked about us right now everywhere? Yeah, when I showed up, they were already there, obviously. It had been an eventful Thursday night for them, I guess.

With everything that had gone on, they'd all gotten into town. And, yeah, I walked into it. And it didn't feel that weird. And when we got to the track, we were in a little different area this year, up top in, like, our own little box. So it wasn't crazy why we were there. Okay. So I'm happy to hear you guys are in a new place.

All right. Air conditioning up there. The significant others were brought. Also, Miles Teller. Did you get any selfies with Miles Teller or Mai Tai? Did you know him going in? How did that all come about? Miles is the man.

We had a great dinner Friday before we left town, and Miles was a very active participant, me and him going back and forth for a while. I played golf with him in Tahoe, and he's been around a decent amount. Yeah, awesome dude. Great actor, too. Miles Teller. Oh, yeah. I mean, he embodies the character whenever he goes in there.

We love Miles Teller. Let's also talk, you know what, while we're at it? Randall Cobb's down there. That's awesome. Greg Batari's down there. Some other guy, I've never heard of. But there was Aaron Rodgers. I don't know if you saw that Some other guy, I've never heard of. But then there was Aaron Rodgers. I don't know if you saw that. Aaron Rodgers was there

wearing a hat. He looked incredibly happy right behind Shaley and Woodley there. He looked a little thin in this particular photo, but I don't know what he normally would look like. How was he doing, AJ? How was Aaron Rodgers, also known as Turd Ferguson, doing through this entire thing?

Man, that was awesome. I mean, I think from what I could tell you, he does look a little trimmer than normal. He's definitely a little skinny at the moment. Is he retiring? He's retiring. He's retiring. So that's one thing I absolutely could say.

My opinion would be there is a 0% chance Aaron retires. Okay. Wow. Hey, we all saw the cloth. It was in the photo. His opinion is that there's a 0% chance of retirement. Okay, so hey, that's what you

told me. Did people really think that was a possibility? I don't care. No, but if you actually look at it, just go back. I know you can't think five minutes before what just happened, but you go back and you listen to him speak on like the competitive nature of what football is not what it brings him you really think that dude's gonna walk away from the game no listen i understand and believe me we talked about that as well but then there was reports

allegedly from his team that he is willing to take a hard line on this, whether it's holding out or possibly even retirement, which caused the internet to go completely into a scurry yet again, just like after the day he said he would love to be the Jeopardy full-time host, and he did well in it. So, hey, with your conversations and what you're saying, you know him a lot better than any of us. You're a claw in the photo at the Kentucky Derby. You say 0% chance retirement. Okay, so there's one. Okay. You know him a lot better than any of us. You're a claw in the photo at the Kentucky Derby.

You say 0% chance retirement. Okay, so there's one. Here we go. Okay. Now. And I'm not speaking for him by any means. Too late, dude. Too late.

I would. Okay, Pat. I'm just saying. When I heard that floated out there, I was like, that's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. I guarantee you he's not retired. Okay. Guarantee. that floated out there i was like that's the dumbest thing i've ever heard i guarantee you he's not retired okay guarantee aj hawks thoughts all right after potentially being in the same photo did you talk to him at all and i know this is a uh away from business trip right it's everybody in there hey let's have a good time significant others are there i assumed that it

had to be addressed the situation that was happening directly around that little box you guys were in there was a camera full time on your box i assume you know that there was tweets and photos coming out anytime you guys moved there had to be some sort of conversation about the world or did you guys say hey let's go ahead and disappear from the world here for a little bit and just get blacked out drunk with cigars at the Kentucky Derby? Is that the mindset? Well, I mean, I was making a three and a half hour drive home after, so no, I was not having anything to drink. Just full

tobacco for me. Okay. So was there conversations had about the world that you guys are currently living in? Yeah. So, of course it was a social trip and I went there very naive to what was going on around everything i was you you made sure to remind me that no this is hey this is something's popping off here something's going on here my god i thought i was just hanging out i guess i'm not

anymore no no you weren't you weren't and yesterday when i texted you and i said hey you're coming on the show everybody's expecting something from there seems, then there's reports coming out. Charles Robinson says somebody in Aaron Rodgers' camp says that he has said it's either him or Gutekunst. Do you think anybody from his camp would be releasing that? No, I'm going to stop you. That's garbage, too, I think. Okay. Wow.

I don't think, I definitely do not think that Aaron is out there trying to say fire duty. Okay. Here we go. Another PLV on him. Retiring, no fire. Okay, not retiring. He's not out there saying, hey. Like I said, though, for real, I'm not speaking for him.

I'm just telling you what my feelings are from being around him. Yeah, your vibes, your vibes, your vibes, which are much better than what anybody else is talking about right now. So this is good. So there's no retirement loves football. Not saying saying do you think there's any chance that maybe they get back good or does it feel like that is also going to be very difficult as well i mean i it seems like it will be difficult for sure i i would never say never with anything i have no idea what the chances would be but also i think the front office probably knows like hey this

isn't something that just crept up on us and all of a sudden we have issues i think it's something they know like wow we how did we ever let it get this far i i've said that from both sides like man it should never have gotten to this point okay all right thank you thank you okay and i don't i mean we could do this all day but i don't want to. Yeah, I got one. I got one as well. Hold on. What's it about, though? We won't talk about it.

It's about, you know, everything going on in the front office between if AJ had any sort of conversation with anyone up there. What do you mean? What are you talking about? We can't hear you. There was a report about AJ possibly calling the front office and then the front office, you know, Hawk giving his two cents about it. So AJ's actually potentially. Did AJ actually talk to Gutekunst? I think you should, Hawk giving his two cents about it. So A.J.'s actually potentially. Did A.J. actually talk to Goode to kind of ask him that? I think he should.

Yeah, I think that's because there at the end of his last question, I don't know if you heard it, or his last answer, he said, I don't think it's good for either side. Exactly. Almost like he's like, hey, let's put our swords down. It's almost like he knows what's good for the other side as well. Yeah, you should ask him that. Will you ask if Aaron would be mad if A.J. was friends with Goode?

Yeah, I would. Okay, that is good. Hey, good luck with him. Will you ask if Aaron would be mad if AJ is friends with Goons Goons? Yeah, I would. That is good. Hey, good luck with this. Alright, thanks. AJ, some people were talking about you possibly being the voice piece to the front office. Did you have a conversation with anybody up there? Connor, I have not had

any conversations with anyone in Green Bay. We told you. We told you. We knew it. Tony, what did you want me to ask? No, no, it's over. He said in Green Bay. So maybe Goontagoon wasn't in Green Bay when he called. Was he at the Derby too? Why would Goontie

ever want to speak with me? Well, because they think maybe you're like the let's put our swords down. You're the middleman. I am not that guy. I never will be that guy. I am absolutely not the peacemaker. Hey, I want to let you know, we appreciate you sitting in the fire there for a good 10 minutes.

I don't care. No, I'm fine with it. Also, something that I want people to think they should know, it's also not about Jordan Love. It's not about drafting Jordan Love. That wasn't a big pivotal moment. I don't think it's that either it's like it's just things over time I feel like that probably tiny little things they could have done to make him be like a partner with them make him feel like hey you have some kind of say we're going to keep you in the loop I think they

probably failed to do that year after year after year and it probably just got to this point you think the by the way I appreciate you saying that and that feels like that is coming from a place of truth and reality there the the jordan love draft pick it's not jordan love it is what they chose to do with the draft pick and how they could potentially have continued to build a winner now and everything like that right that's that's kind of the thought like jordan yeah i'm sure it's that and also not – I don't think he knew they were drafting Jordan Love. He wasn't privy to that. By the way, Tampa Bay Buccaneers called Tom at the last pick of the second round. They said, hey, this is what we're thinking, Tom.

Is that cool? Tom, by the way, on the Mount Rushmore of quarterbacks just like Aaron. Andy Dalton's been a Chicago Bear for four weeks, maybe? A couple of weeks. And they called him and said, hey, man, listen, we're drafting Justin Fields. We've got to take him. We've got to take him.

We're so sorry. So you would just think that that might be a common courtesy whenever it comes to the quarterback of your fucking team, which is the face of your team, which is everything, let alone if he's Andy Dalton or if he's a Mount Rushmore quarterback like Tom Brady. But I assume that's not the only thing, by the way. Just like to your point, that is just one thing in a series of events.

There's things that he's said publicly if people would have looked. I think he talked about the receiver, Jake Kummerow, who I actually played with Jake in Cincinnati. He mentioned they end up cutting Jake towards the end of training camp, and I guess the day or so before, Aaron talked him up to the media, said how excited he was to have him on the team. He's going to be a great number three receiver, and then he's cut the next day without Aaron's knowledge. And Buffalo picked him up the day or so before, Aaron talked him up to the media, said how excited he was to have him on the team. He's going to be a great number three receiver. And then he's cut the next day without Aaron's knowledge.

And Buffalo picked him up the day after. And by the way, if you think about – Gumpy, we'll get to you in one second, though. But if you think about Tom, Bruce Arians actually said, I've got top two guys, but if Tom wants to pick three through five or whatever, Tom can do whatever he wants when he's talking about wide receivers. Peyton Manning, if Peyton Manning didn't want you on the field for a practice, you weren't going to be. If Peyton Manning wanted you on the field, guess what?

He's actually getting you your suit to travel in, getting you the seat that you're sitting in, the hotel room you're in, and then on the field, he's actually subbing you in, whatever there's things happening. That is a massive deal, I would assume, to a quarterback. So that's just, by the way, that's just another tiny little thing that happens that Aaron goes, what the fuck?

Everybody else. With that one too, I'm sure it's things like that. Little things over time that build up. With the Kumaro thing, it wasn't like, this guy was my friend. It was a charity case to have him on the team. No, he was going to throw the ball to this dude. He was counting on him.

Well, and then the contract stuff, too, obviously. You know, it's like you just wait and wait and wait and wait, and then this shit comes out. It's like, well, yeah, we'll give him whatever he wants. It's like, well, you know, you pissed him off. I don't think it's about it. I don't think that's – I'm sure that added to it, but I don't think it's even part of it.

I don't think he cares that much about that. So the money thing is not like a main driver behind any of this, you don't think? I don't think so because I think that's something that's more recent. I think the stuff's been building up for a long time. AJ, I want to let you know, we in the sports media world, hey, we appreciate you doing this. Thank you, AJ!

Turd Ferguson looked good, though. Oh, yeah, the hair. I don't know what that was. I didn't ask him. I wasn't there that the hair I don't know what that was I wasn't there that day I know the Tert Ferguson reference but I'm not sure why he wore that It's called comedy dude Come on

Thank you for explaining that to me You ever heard of it AJ? To AJ's point about Kumaro apparently Rapshie just said the Packers releasing Jake Kumaro was almost immediately after Rodgers praised him was described as a death kneel in the relationship. When did he release that tweet?

Somebody else tweeted it that Rapshie just said it nine minutes ago. Oh, so it was before we said it. It was before we said it. They fired his quarterback coach, too, who he loved without talking to him about it. It does seem like he doesn't get treated like no just little jabs everywhere listen by the way there's people who think Aaron is an asshole an asshole or whatever you know there's people that think that about him so no matter what he does how he does they're going to think that whatever he's doing is an asshole move but

at the quarterback position let's get his ass to Sunday. Who cares? Especially if you, and that's why all these other GMs and front office people who are either out of the game now or retired or head coaches that are out of the game,

they all say, if you listen to them, like, man, if I had Aaron Rodgers, I would be bending over backwards to just make him happy. And it's not like, it's not like I don't think he's asking for anybody to bend over backwards,

but I just think it's a very known thing in high-level football. In the NFL, it's like, yo, let's make the goddamn quarterback happy. If it's a new workout that he wants to do in the weight room, let's do it. Hey, if he wants different food, let's do it. Maybe some other OGs too, But the quarterback position is so vital. And if you've got a guy, who cares? Let's just get to Sunday. We've got a chance to win every game.

It's not like that everywhere. Well, and that's why you look around the league. I'm sure Connor would be the first to tell you, you can't let that guy leave the building because guess what? If he leaves and goes somewhere else next year and wins a Super Bowl in his first year, that's just – Well, look at the Colts. Yeah, exactly.

It's a nightmare scenario, and you the Colts. Yeah, exactly. It's just a nightmare. It's a nightmare scenario, and you can't let it get to that point. I just, it's like, you know, you're still just in a state of shock that it has gotten to that point. AJ, how much pressure did you feel coming onto the show today? None. I didn't feel any pressure. Wow.

What pressure do I, like, okay. I don't, I just don't understand the pressure I'd be under. Well, you were in that photo. So everything you say, everybody's like, oh, this is Aaron speaking. The hand thing. I love that that's, like, become a thing. What is it, by the way? How did that start?

You just looked like a stooge in one photo, and they didn't know, so you just kept doing it? No, I mean, it goes back years. I think I was, I did it in a picture while we were at the Derby years ago to make fun of somebody, and then I think I told Aaron it was an Illuminati signal, and then I did it in a picture while we were at the derby years ago to make fun of somebody, and then I think I told Aaron it was an Illuminati signal, and then I did it for a couple more years, and then I thought it was played out, and then they started asking me to do it, and now

they do it. So now it's like, I'm forced to do it. He's like, come on, man. I'm like, alright, I thought this was over. Do you guys just refer to it as the Illuminati? No. It started first. I was making fun of somebody for having alligator arms, trying to catch a ball.

And then it went from there. You guys are the best. Awesome. How he's, everything he does gets talked about, speculated. Everything he does. This is obviously an absolute firestorm because it's him wanting to go somewhere else. I thought early everybody was on Aaron's side. Then the NFL and Gunter Kuntz and them did their best to get their side out.

I feel like some Packers fans have gotten upset with Aaron through this entire thing. I want to let you know there's 28 other teams that are like, come on in the water. He's fine. This is a tough thing, I'd assume, for Packers fans to go through, but every other team in the NFL is very excited about the potential here. If he goes to Patrick Mahomes' division,

and I'm not saying he will, but Aaron Rodgers' Patrick Mahomes two times a year is going to be fucking awesome. That'd be awesome, AJ. You know times a year is going to be fucking awesome. Prime time. That would be awesome, AJ. You know what's funny is I got texts from multiple friends and acquaintances in the league that – no GMs, but people that work in front offices that are like,

hey, tell Aaron if he wants to come here, he can do whatever. He has full say in everything. I got a couple of those messages as well. And I don't know what the rules are to let him know on who's saying that but that's why i think it's so fascinating to hear you know like bloggers potentially and journalists cover who's feeling what and then like other nfl people that are in positions that are like hey hey let's let him know if he wants a player on team we fuck whatever he wants yeah put him at guard if he is shit Shit. Whatever the hell he wants.

It is so important to have that guy. Now, with these young quarterbacks, A.J., Justin Fields, the Chicago Bears are getting heralded as having an incredible draft this past weekend because they pick up Justin Fields. Bear fucking God. Some other weapons up there, okay? Matt Nagy, Ryan Pace really going all in, trading some stuff to make a move. The Chicago Bears are

only posting Justin Fields all over their Instagram. They're saying, hey, listen, we got a guy. AJ, Justin Fields goes in there and wins. He's a hero forever. If he doesn't, are the Bears fans going to turn on him because of how much hype there is right now? No.

We'll see. Well, no, because if he doesn't play well, then the coaching staff will be fired and he'll get another chance, a fresh start with whoever comes in. Hopefully it's a fresh start. Is that your dream, Zeke? You hoping Ryan Day gets called? That's actually a good point.

Not a bad idea. Seems like we started here. Clip that. Save that for when that happens. I don't know when it will take place. What if Justin Fields comes in and balls, though? Seems like we started here. Clip that. Clip that. Save that for when that happens. I don't know when it will take place, but probably next year. Next year, probably. What if Justin Fields comes in and balls, though? With Aaron getting out of the division, potentially,

the Chicago Bears being the face of the NFC North. So we all agree that Justin Fields will start game one? Yeah, because I guess now they're saying Andy Dalton is still our starter. I think everything is dependent upon how quickly you learn the offense, which, by the way, if the Dr. Goldman standard test has anything to do with anything, he's going to be able to pick up the offense quickly. Then it's like at what point do you want to put him in? I'm a big fan, and history has shown us that if a guy sits,

he has a much better likely outcome that he's going to do well. If he sits and gets a chance to watch the starter not only play, not only practice, but handle themselves in the building and understand what's going on potentially now that you are the quarterback of a team. I like a player sitting and learning at that position. Now, with that being said, I'm also a guy who if Justin Fields is the fucking guy, put him out there. Andrew Luck is the guy, put him out there. Justin Herbert sat for a little bit, put him out there. I just, it depends on the situation. Situations are situational, but if he could sit behind Andy Dalton and learn a bit and they have success, I think that is best case scenario for everybody. Don't you think there's a good chance that, well, I would say, I would guess,

sitting here right now, that maybe Andy Dalton starts the season and if andy can find a way to win and they're playing well then you keep andy and you let you let him sit for a little bit but if then things start to turn and don't go so well you can plug justin fields in and you may be able to save yourself a season if you show a bunch of hope with whatever justin fields can do if he plays well aside from them calling andy dalton to let him know that they're trading to get Justin Fields and Andy Dalton being like, yeah, don't you worry about that, Andy Dalton might be the perfect, one of the most perfect quarter now Fitzmagic people say, and there's other OGs or whatever, but Andy Dalton might be a really good guy to learn under. He's seen what it's like in Cincy.

He's been to Dallas. Now he's in Chicago. He's won. He's gotten to playoffs with teams that probably shouldn't get to the playoffs. I mean, he is a – and I don't mean the talent on the roster. I'm talking about the organization of Cincinnati. So it's just I think he's a really good guy to potentially learn under. It might be best-case scenario, but then if he has any struggles at all,

there's going to be people calling for Justin Fields immediately. Wouldn't you think of Justin Fields, Trey Lance, and Mac Jones, and this is a big if, if Jimmy G does end up being on the roster for the Niners at the beginning of the season, that Fields has the best chance of playing before the other two? So you're taking that's a big shot at Andy Dalton? Yeah. I don't know.

Do you have that much confidence in Jimmy G? Ricochet, I guess. I mean, big shot in Andy Dalton there. What were you going to ask about the confidence in Jimmy G? Yeah, I was going to say, Diggs must have a bunch of confidence in Jimmy G. Ricochet, I guess. I mean, big shot in Andy Dalton there. What were you going to ask about the confidence in Jimmy G? Yeah, I was going to say, Diggs must have a bunch of confidence in Jimmy G, right? Well, last time he played, he went to the Super Bowl. Yeah, but that's the thing, though, right, is he doesn't play all the time. But now he knows, too.

It's either going to make him excel to the next level, or it's going to be tough when you know you have that guy sitting right behind you that's ready to become the next franchise QB. With that face, though, you're always confident. I think he's confident. He's not going to crumble. You think Jimmy G's very confident? Yeah.

I assume as well, by the way. I like Jimmy G. I think he'll play well. I like Jimmy G as well, and I think he has had a lot of success. But with hearing Kyle Shanahan and John Lynch say, yeah, but when he gets hurt, we suck. I can understand why they brought him in. Trey Lance.

The story of Trey Lance is going to be a cool one. Oh, yeah. If he goes on to be good, the story that we're going to have to tell is a guy we had never heard of. A guy we had no idea skyrockets up the board, gets picked over the two national champion quarterbacks. I mean, it is. It's a wild story there. It is a wild story. And how many games did he play this last season?

One. One. One. Showcase game. I think he threw the ball like four times. Man. Crazy. I wonder what a non-COVID year would have looked like.

Would it have been any different? Yeah, I think he would have played. He would have won a national championship. I mean the draft. No, I mean would it have changed the draft order? Maybe a two. He might have won a two, yeah. Yeah, he might have won higher.

Old Trey Lance. Zach Wilson. What is going to happen with him? Man. Wow. That is a experiment. If Justin Fields ends up being a guy too and Zach Wilson isn't, I mean.

In New York. He sent a little baby plan to pick up Trevor Lawrence. I don't know if anybody saw that. Huh, really? I did. Anybody saw that? Jim Irsay sent a little baby plane to pick up Trevor Lawrence. I don't know if anybody saw that. Huh, really? I did. Anybody saw that? Jim Irsh, they sent a 727 to pick up Quitty.

They're letting him know, hey, you got to earn this. Trevor Lawrence? Yeah, you got to perform first, and then we'll send you the big plane. I guess. I wonder if Shad was using the big one. No, he was there. He met him when he got there. Yeah, his mustache looked perfect.

He had some Jaguars sweats. Ooh. Yeah, it was there. He met him when he got there. His mustache looked perfect. He had some Jaguar sweats. Yeah, it was pretty interesting. Trevor Lawrence got off a tiny little plane. He did look big walking off that plane. It was a tiny plane. I mean, it was probably a short trip. Why waste the big one? Why not?

Because he's the face of your franchise. Why not? It's a short trip. I bet you Trevor Lawrence is such a good guy. He's like, you know what? That's worse for the environment. Send a small joke. Ooh, yes, sir.

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Last hour, a lot of the things he said have started circulating the internet about his friend and Kentucky Derby compadre Aaron Rodgers. AJ, a lot of people saying thanks for coming out and speaking the truth. Thank you, AJ. That's what they're saying, AJ. They're saying thank you, AJ, for coming out and speaking some sense into this whole thing. Because there's sources coming from everywhere on this story, AJ. Sources everywhere, dude.

Well, I mean, I'm not proclaiming like I know everything and I know what's happening. I'm as confused as everybody else, I think. But. But. But. With that being said. But not as confused as a lot, I think. Yeah.

Yeah, maybe. And in some ways, maybe still very confused. Because, like I said, I have no idea how this ends up. I don't know what the conclusion is. Turd Ferguson and A.J. Hawk this weekend did chat, but not enough for you to know what the end of this whole thing is. I respect it. I appreciate it, A.J.

Thank you for your information. As an entire sports media, we appreciate you. It's going to be talked about tomorrow. It's going to be talked about forever. And I think the thing about that type of situation is no matter how this ends, it's going to end wrong for somebody. He goes somewhere else, he gets traded away, and they're like, well, he kind of forced their cards.

He wins. It has a good time somewhere else. It's not even going to be remembered about how it happened. It's just going to remember. Remember when the Green Bay Packers messed that entire thing up there? And if he stays, it's like, well, remember they were able to reconcile. It's a wild, fascinating world in the NFL, especially whenever you're talking about a Mount Rushmore-like quarterback. Joining us now is a man who has had a few of those work for him.

Ladies and gentlemen, the owner of the Indianapolis Colts and the founder of Kicking the Stigma, a campaign that hopes to make mental health illness a lot more respected and appreciated as opposed to something that's kind of cast down upon ladies and gentlemen jim ursa how are you boss hey what's going on patrick uh i don't know if you know that belated birthday oh thank you boss i appreciate that aj hawk is here as well legendary green bay packer he's sitting on the other side there. How you doing, Mr. Ursa? Thank you for coming on. I love guys who got after guys on that

football field, particularly up in Green Bay. That's some classic football gridiron there. Hey, Jim, I think that's what people don't fully understand about you. And we'll talk about kicking the stigma, which begins this evening, by the way. Very cool that you're getting involved in that. I'm thankful, especially with where we are in the world. We need that. But I don't think people understand. You're a football guy. Like, you are a football guy.

You played. You've been in the equipment room. You tell that story. The coaching, the general manager, I think, in your 30s, the owner. You love football. I don't think that ever gets talked about enough, your depth knowledge. Have you been involved with Chris Ballard with decision-making and stuff like that?

And how much of an input do you have on the team in decisions that are made? Well, it's a blessing to start from 11 years old getting paid $5 a week, picking up jockstacks in the locker room to do every job in the organization. And center manager at 24 and owner at 35. It's come fast, but I've really enjoyed getting to know every role in the organization. in the organization. So when it comes to Chris Ballard, I really try to do anything I can to help him at main times when decisions are about to be made

as he thought everything through, as he really looked at everything. But in the end, I also respect that it's got to be his call because he's the one who's the expert and has done all the work. Mr. Ersett, what was it like being 35 years old and owning an NFL team? Well, I tell you, it all has come on quickly. I think I addressed the team first time when I was 16 years old in Detroit

in the old Silverdome when my dad fired another coach in preseason. So it was interesting growing up with him, and he had great intentions, and he wanted to win. It just didn't turn out that way all the time. But it was really a blessing to start that young but you looked at people like pete roselle who was commissioner at 33 george hallis who was player owner coach in his 20s so um i i just i looked at it as a challenge and i've always liked challenges

jim uh mr ursae, sorry. I am nowhere near at the level to call you Jim, so I apologize. No, look, I mean, my friends call me Jim. You can call me Jimmy. Hey! Jimmy from the Colts! Jimmy from the Colts! I mean, that's a line from Strikes, brother.

Don't do it again. Brother, I'm sorry, brother. I'm sorry. Jim, whenever you get a team at the age of 35 and you kind of grow up in it, I assume the plan all along was for the NFL to be the biggest league in the world.

Right now, you guys just got out of signing an 11-year, $110 billion rights deal that I think is changing daily now that Amazon is taking over thursday night football next year as opposed to in 2023 what do you think it was is it the game is it the coverage of the game at what point since you've been around for so long do you think really the nfl and football blew up it's massive ratings are going down everywhere the nfl continues to go

up how at what point did you kind of realize that? And where do you guys try to go from here? Well, you're right, Pat. It really in most classes you take in economics and business management. The first rule of thumb is diversification and be concerned about how much you have invested in one area in case that doesn't go well. But with the NFL ever since the Colts-Giants game in 58-59, when TV became a big factor, Pete Rozelle became commissioner in 1960, television just went hand-in-hand with the NFL to really make us the premier

league in the world. And so it's been remarkable to see through the decades, through the 70s and 80s and 90s and there beyond where you're in the room and a new TV contract comes in or new developments come in. So it's been really a blessing. But one thing you're taught by the guys who founded the game is take care of the game. Don't reach for every dollar you can.

Protect the game. Make sure that the game is being treated the right way and the fans are because, really, that's all you being treated the right way and the fans are because really that's all you have in the end, and it just happens to be the greatest game for television, for lack of a better word, and that's really helped our growth. What is it like when you get together with the other owners? I just wonder if you have this healthy, competitive attitude with them.

When you're making moves and you know you guys bring in carson wentz you do all this are you thinking like hey this is gonna i'm gonna beat my buddy who owns this team or that team like do you think about that well it's it's interesting you know it was so fun to be around the other owners in the 70s and 80s and be in owners meetings throughout the 80s it was a colorful crew i i mean guys would come in leave the bar a few of them after a few martinis and uh it would get very very interesting and heated sometimes in those um old owners meetings. And I just remember the Jack and Cooks and Joe Robbies and so many guys before me. And I just observed them as a young man. And you learn from them.

I remember when I was 23 years old and Jack and Cook pulled me aside. He said, son, just remember, it's not always what you earn, it's what you don't lose. And that always, you know, stayed with me. Little nuggets of wisdom that they pass on through the years. And I was so blessed because George

Alice was at my wedding. I mean, that would be like Biden saying, well, George Washington was at my wedding. You know, I mean, that would be like Biden saying, well, George Washington was at my wedding. You know, I mean, here I am walking down the aisle and the founder of the league who was in that Humpmobile showroom in 1920 was at my wedding in a wheelchair. My dad was good friends with him. So it was such a privilege to know these greats. I remember Art Rooney Sr. gave me a cigar at a meeting in Palm Springs in 1981.

And to see these legends that were still alive was such a blessing for me. This being my 50th year this year. Hey, let's go! Congrats on 50 good ones, boss. Man, that's awesome. Thank you, Pat. No problem. Okay, boss, whenever you become, you know, the owner of a team in your 30s,

and, you know, for you, I mean, you used to move weight, too. I mean, you used to move weight. You love music. You know, you're an incredible musician and lover. You're the friends that you have made over this life. I assume that that is something you have to be absolutely mythified by because whenever you and I chatted, whenever I was going to retire, you dropped so much knowledge on me in this hour and a half. And you were quoting people that you were friends with you know you know my old friend blah blah insert name uh Beatles here and then

another member is like who has been somebody that has been very important that is not from the sports world that you rely heavily upon maybe in decision making and kind of through life and everything like that well it's interesting I picked up things from everyone even nemesis or maybe adversaries if you will that I didn't agree with 95% of the time but if they had some wisdom in that 5% of the time I'm that you know plagiarism is the way to success look at how other people do it you take a little bit of it stash it in your back pocket and you keep going you know and so it's um it's amazing so many people have such an influence on me i mean al davis had a huge influence on me. He was so brilliant. But there he was suing his partners. So there was this dynamic that I was torn with because it's difficult when you have that dynamic

and see what happened in the 80s and what it did to Roselle and those things. But Al was brilliant. Tech Schramm. Paul Paul Brown to have a chance to talk football with Paul Brown the guy really invented classroom teaching in football it's just incredible to have had to be around those guys Don Shula and it's such a privilege to have known and worked with those guys at a young age. And so, you know, when you become owners, it's a it's an interesting thing because a

lot of people wonder because my dad, you know, we were arguing about a raise, I think, for myself at the time that he got sick and passed away. And I mean, I was I had a bloated visa bill, the house payment and everything. And so I went from that to owner. And everyone wonders, what's it like, when you have billions of dollars and, I mean, you don't go in your basement,

there's not like gold bullion sitting there. Oh, it's just like you call this person and you say, will you transfer, you know, $80 million? Okay. And then on your screen it disappears. I mean, you never see the money. I mean, you know, people think, you know, that you have some big trade of gold sores.

Like, no, it's just like, tell me it's there. So I said, I can go pick up that plane. Hey, boss, my favorite time, and I don't know if you're still doing it or not. I haven't seen you out and about at any events because I haven't gone or whatever. But there came a time where every time you went in public, you were just handing out hundreds to people. It was electric. I loved everything about it. You come to training camp, we'd have, you know, a boss's golf cart would show up.

And there would be an instant buzz around the entire city of Anderson. They're like, Earth Day's here. Boss man's here. And everybody knew exactly what that meant. Okay, he's about to give out probably three, maybe $30,000 tonight, just hundreds to everybody. It was, you've always been so gracious with your money. Now, obviously, you feel as if you have to because of the blessings you receive, but you've always been very, very giving with your money. That's a very cool thing. And I don't think a lot of people who sit in your seat act that way.

So I've always been very grateful for the way you act. Well, thanks, Pat. You know, for me, my grandparents came across Ellis Island with just a shirt on their back. Four immigrants with nothing. You know, my grandmother raised five kids in the inner city of Chicago, and she was a maid and couldn't even speak English, an immigrant from Poland. And so I've learned that, you know, I know what it's like being without i mean i remember working construction in chicago uh doing demolition and my dad got me a fake union card and he said you're going to work this summer you're going

to work in the city demolition so i'd be there you know in my hard hat half an hour for lunch and i wish i would have came by and given me $100. I needed it, you know. And so, like, with housekeeping, for instance, I always, first of all, leave several hundred dollars for housekeepers every time on the bill. But, more importantly, write a note to say, I see you. God sees the work you do.

Your hard labors do not go without being recognized and thank you for making this world and this country what it is because that's the backbone of what we are and you have to get them one at a time and try to help anything in any way

you can one at a time and a lot of times I've shut down a lot of Girl Scout, you know, donations, things by the side of the road, you know. Hey, here's $2,000. We're going home, you know. That's awesome. Everyone should just, all the Girl Scouts should set up on the path from your

house to the facility. They just want to make sure they catch you. It's worth way more than $2,000 to watch the smiles of them dancing in the parking lot saying, we're going home now. We got our quarter for the next year. So it's a lot of fun.

What are you doing tonight? Just treat others like you want to be treated. And we all play that role in life where sometimes we're the pauper sometimes we have you know ripped pants and dirt on us and we're working hard other times you know we're in a position of kingsmanship or something and i don't take either role very seriously i mean for me it's dust to dust and and I'm humble with all the blessings God's given

me, because I know, in my mind, the term self-made man is a very spiritually arrogant term, because there is no self-made man or woman. You know, the good Lord looks after us and blesses what direction we end up going, and we just hope to have the right energy going forward to earn the right karma if you will to succeed amen we appreciate that mindset obviously and I think AJ was going to talk about this tonight starts a very big couple days here what made you want to kind of dive into this kicking the stigma campaign and what can people look forward to? I think Carson Daly is holding a council, Darius Leonard's gonna be there amongst many others. I know Kalen was involved in this. Whenever I saw the commercial and I saw you on

there I was so incredibly pumped for you because I know that a lot of people are gonna listen. How did you decide to get into this and what are you expecting out of it? Well I've realized through my own experiences and and through observing life there there's kind of you know you know two different instances that sometimes happen sometimes guys will get liquored up and go swimming in the Broad Ripple Canal. Whoa, whoa, whoa. So there's wrecked traffic in their underwear. Now, Kate Floyd calls that a momentary lapse of reason. Momentary lapse of reason.

But then you have other issues that run more seriously. And that's the ones that we really aim at because mental illness and all that surrounds it is so important in this country, in this world at this point, to try to have an outreach to help. And when you think about how hard it is just to overcome a physical illness,

if you have cancer, for instance instance what Chuck Pagano went through but imagine if that person feels guilty because they have the disease and is afraid to seek help and feels they won't get their insurance company out or feels that authorities are going to seek them out because they have a disease and they need help. I mean, all these things make it so difficult for people to get well. So we're just here to take that stigma away and create an environment of wellness and make it easier for people. And it's still very hard, but to make it easier if we can. Well, I appreciate you doing that.

That's massive. The panel will air tonight on colts.com forward slash KTS, Kicking the Stigma. Carson Daly, Darius Leonard, Hayden Hurst, Solomon Thomas, Darren Waller, among others. There will also be content from Mr. Hersey, Chris Ballard, Frank Wright, and online auctioned memorabilia that is signed in experiences. Raise funds will go toward a new Kicking the Stigma Fund, which will support expanded programming by Mental Health America, Indiana. Yes, sir.

Pat, you just, you know, right here, just Project Healthy Minds. Yep. Bringing change to Minds, Mental Health America, and National Alliance on Mental Illness. That's all some of the main organizations we're working with. And at Colts.com slash KTS, you can find out more, contribute, and be part of this great effort. That's what I'm talking about, Mark! Hey, I can't wait to watch that. I appreciate you for your time.

I would be remiss if I didn't ask. Your music collection, your guitars, drums, everything like that, is very widely known about. What's your favorite piece you have, and what is potentially next for you to purchase to bring that museum together even more well i'd say probably john lennon piano um the one that he wrote so many great songs like sergeant pepper's the whole album and imagine um it's just staggering to look at this piece of history that sits there.

And the music means so much because when you mention that, Pat, for instance, that helps people with mental health issues. But let me say this before we end thank you pat mcafee for your humor and what you bring to this world because you change and make this world better help people that have serious problems depression etc by bringing i mean humor is the bridge to sanity and you do great work without even realizing it with your show, with your humor. People look so forward to hearing you. And laughing is one of the best remedies to mental illness that there is. So thank you seriously, bro.

No, that was awesome. No, that was very cool. Thank you so much. You're the best, Mr. Hersey. Ladies and gentlemen, go to coach.com forward slash KTS to help them, watch them, learn some, and ultimately, hopefully, feel like you're not alone. Ladies and gentlemen, Jim Ursae. Thank you.

Thanks, JJ. You're the best. Thanks, Scott. He's the best. That was incredible. Yeah. AJ, you ever talk to that man before? Never have, man. That was awesome. I. AJ, you ever talk to that man before? Never have, man.

That was awesome. I love how he ended it. It's very true what he said about you, but so cool for a guy like that to say it. Yeah, it was very nice. I mean, I obviously look up to Mr. Ursae a lot. I mean, he is the reason why all this even started or whatever, but he always had an interesting, I think a narrative about him was always interesting because he had battled some demons in the past, you know? And it feels like, by the way, talking to him there him there feels like we're in a great spot which is awesome news

congrats on that but I like he's giving back and every time I got a chance to chat with him you know after that alleged event that he potentially mentioned after that alleged event he would come talk to me every single practice he came so I feel like I got a chance to really chat with him and obviously now people know me so the questions I would ask I feel like I got to learn a lot about him and I'm very lucky and I'm he's a cool dude and he will do whatever to win you know he is the type of guy who will do whatever to win can I can I transfer 80 million I've never seen it yeah he's the best they tell me it's there oh my god dog pain behind him too yeah that's hilarious he in the chair i don't know what he's i hope that's where he makes decisions kicking the stigma awesome campaign there was a real song on the back of that commercial

whenever they launched the kick in the stigma it was like everybody hurts I think yeah everybody has some time so as soon as I was like oh shit they had to pay a lot of money to get this right if they're doing this a national commercial so I called I was like you guys paid for that song like no Jim's friends with a just of course of course what am i what am I even thinking he's good dude man how much how much do you think that John Lennon piano, how much did he buy it for? Dude, he also has Nixon's resignation letter. Yep. He doesn't have a couple of guitars?

He has vaults. Does he have a museum or something? Hopefully at some point they'll display it for everyone to see, right? He has a Colts museum, and then he also has another museum, I do believe. On the Colts website, they show all the things. He has a signed Campbell tomato soup by Andy Warhol. He has the first Jerry Maguire scripts. It's insane.

And he has these in places that are unburnable, unpenetrable. He has numerous of these things around there. There's an article about Indianapolis Colts owner buying John Lennon's piano, and it was estimated between $800,000 and $1.2 million. AJ, you can get that. I thought if you would have told me $20 million I would have said okay. Me too. Especially with what some of that art goes for.

Yeah, it's probably going up. Shout out to Jim Irsing. Hey, humor is the bridge to sanity. There's a lot. By the way, go back. He probably dropped four or five of those. But people won't even listen because the delivery is how it is. It's like, no, no, you've got to listen to the fucking guy now. Hey, listen to the guy now.

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uh aj hawk a lot of people talking that you actually said there's no chance of him retiring that is hitting obviously is somebody having a birthday I'm already happy for the birthday boy. Come on, bitch. Let's go. We're a memory. Thank you. It's a clam. It goes with your hair.

Shake his hand, Pat. Oh, thank you, sir. It's horrible on that. Hey, give him a hug. I'm a Viking. I'm a Viking. I'm a Viking. Thank you. What's your name?

Bongo. Hey, I hit the bongo too. Do you do any tricks or are you just a balloon? I have a special message for you. Okay. Happy birthday to you. Come on. Happy birthday to you. Come on. Happy birthday to you.

Thank you. All right. Happy birthday. Oh, shit. Bongo. Bongo. Happy, happy. Oh.

Bongo. Happy birthday. Who was this? Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, Bongo. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

Thank you. All right. who did it? Who? Don't look at me. Hands up. Hands up. Who did it? AJ.

AJ. Was that you? Happy birthday, bud. Oh, I hate you. That was not me. I hate you. That was not me. Trust me.

Not me, I promise. You guys couldn't even pronounce my name right. Fucking clown. Fucking clown. By the way, I thought it was potentially a rabbit. Oh, yeah. That was my first. Big trick energy coming back.

Yeah, that's what I thought it was. Literally, as soon as I saw it, because I saw the jawline, I was like, is that? That's the rabbit. Is that the rabbit? It's probably the rabbit. I died because who was in the rabbit? If the rabbit, the person in the rabbit, was that clown right there?

Oh, my God. Thank you to whoever sent that to me and had him pronounce my name wrong. Did he say McAfee or what? Yeah. I got to deal with this clown blowing COVID through my fucking hair. And then he's going to pronounce my name wrong. Thanks for that.

It was probably Billy Tubes, huh? It might have been Billy Tubes. I mean, I don't know. Someone back there could step up and declare it. John Wayne Gacy was in the clown, so it was definitely Billy Tubes. Bongo did not deserve what you just did to him. Bongo. You got a pretty good voice, huh?

Yeah. It was good. You carried that, uh. The horn was kind of old. The horn was fucking Mickey Mouse. It needed some WD-40. I think Bongo can hear this right outside. Bongo, get a new horn, dude.

Who's paying? How much are we paying? We don't know if he can afford a new goddamn horn. We do not. If that's Billy Tube's, Bongo's not getting a tip for what he did either. You should have seen the car he came in. Oh, so this was Zito. No, not me.

Not me. Supposedly it was a clown car that came in the front. Oh, if he came in the car, sell the damn car for a new horn then. God damn it. The performance is more vital than the transportation, but the clown car is pretty important as well. Big thank you to whoever did that. I appreciate it. The birthday was yesterday, and he said my name wrong.

Thank you, AJ. Thank you, AJ. So what is that, $50? $100? How much does that cost? Nah, Bongo ain't getting out of bed for less than $250. Probably right. I mean, that's an impressive flow.

That's a good fucking guy. That's a good boa. Let me tell you something, brother. I'm sure Bongo's a nice guy, but ever since that John Wayne Gacy talk. Yeah. I've always been scared of clowns. I remember a few years ago when clowns were just hanging out in the woods with knives. Yeah, let's not bring that back.

Well, Waterloo, Iowa got ruined because of John Wayne Gacy. And I do believe clowning as a whole also got. That's what it's called. John Wayne Gacy said, you know, the word clowning has kind of run through the mud or whatever. It's like, well, one clown had 32 bodies below his house. Yeah. He was clowning around. He was clowning around.

Did we take a break? We did. We did, yes. Why'd you send that clown? Just the logistics of trying to do that, I would never be able to from here. It has to be an inside job. Someone's in there. What if I was like Tim McAfee?

Jeez. Oh, man. Maybe. Maybe Brian got so doped up that he somehow. Yeah, you guys are all up in Michigan. Oh, Michigan to clown. And by the way, you saw the name Bongo. Oh, Bongo.

Was it Mitt there? Oh, this is Mitt, potentially. Let's get some phone calls. Let's go to Scott in Atlanta. What's going on, Scott? Hey, what's up, man? Hey, just hanging out, man. If it was somebody from Atlanta that scheduled that clown, it would be Snow Go.

I was going to say you get a bag of blow gum coming with it. I don't know if that's how Atlanta wants to be marketed. But, Scott, what do you want to talk about, pal? Yeah, so I also got to say that if anybody was coming from Atlanta, I don't think they'd be able to get out of here. We're getting pissed on right now. Oh, you're talking about storms? Yeah, it's raining up here too. Not actually.

Someone did say there was a tornado warning in Atlanta this morning. In Charlotte. Oh, really? Hey, T's and P's down there. I did not know that was happening. That is a scary feeling. I had never felt it growing up until I got to Indiana. And you're just looking at the sky hoping it's not you.

There's literally nothing else you can do down there t's and p's to everybody who's potentially in the tornadoes um path at this point is that you scott yeah i passed by you this morning i mean say hello sounded like zeus was slamming taco bell earlier or something because it was just rumbling stumbling but uh we're making it through. What do you want to talk about? All right, so I'm a bit worried about Matt Jones going to the Patriots because since Adam Gase was fired from coaching the Jets, the only job that we've potentially heard he's up for in the future is as the Patriots QB coach.

Past QB coach this past season, left to coach at Arizona, and we have no coach announced for that spot yet. Wow. And the only name mentioned for that spot yet. And the only name mentioned for that spot so far has been Gase's offensive assistant. So, it's so fact that it's the same deal. I'm not

sure if Mack was right to move or not yet. We'll see, I guess. Josh McDaniels. Yeah. Go on with your point, AJ. It's something. Bongo does tie a good balloon. Wait, so the caller was worried that Mac Jones doesn't have a quarterback coach in place, but don't you think Josh McDaniels is going to kind of take

him under his wing early on? And Ernie's playing one more year, right? Yeah. Last one. He was worried that Gase may end up being the quarterback coach. Oh. If Gase does, though, like if Gase to and coaches with Belichick, guess what? He's gonna revive his career. He's gonna be a head coach in like two more years.

Bingo. Just like what they do down in Alabama. Yeah. It was great to see the greatest fourth quarter coach of all time back, back as a special assistant to Bill Belichick. Didn't have to give the okay that he was on board. Bill actually goes, Matt, you okay with this? Matt goes, yup. He was. I seen good quarterbacks. Remember Tom Brady, Matthew Stafford, you guys you don't have this. Matt goes, yep. He was. I've seen good quarterbacks.

Remember Tom Brady, Matthew Stafford. You guys have stinky ones up here. Well, you never know. Why are you taking it apart, man? That was a gift. What's that, pup? Why are you taking that apart? It's a gift from Bongo.

Yeah, but I know how to make a camel. Oh. You know what I mean? It would be a cool thing for me to. Yeah. I'm being completely honest. I didn't know you could take make a camel. Oh. You know what I mean? It would be a cool thing for me to. Yeah. To be completely honest, I didn't know you could take apart balloons. Trying to. That's a.

See what I'm trying to do here. Uh-huh. Just trying to let everybody know what you can do with said thing whenever you get it. You can take that son of a bitch. I thought once those things were tied, they were fucking tied. No, no. The good news about these balloons is they're actually. Flexible.

You know, they move. Pliable. Pliable. Stretch. Yeah, you have good. Malleable. TB-12. Yeah. Theseable. Stretch. Malleable. TB12.

These balloons. That's what I was on. Who was it? Who did it? I think we shouldn't, Pat, let's not get too excited until you actually have a finished product

and there is a camel that we can see. I mean, I've already taken away a goddamn Viking. Yeah, it feels like you should challenge me.

I didn't think you'd get that far. Did you not see this? Can't wait. Can't wait to see the final product, bud. The camel? Yeah. Don't worry about it. Call me Thursday when it's done Maybe by then you'll have some fucking answers

On what Aaron's doing You know what I mean? Yeah that's me I'm that guy Anyways before Bongo got involved in our entire show A lot of people are reacting to Your reactions to the weekend And I just want to make one more thing you know clear or not is aaron rogers going to be a green bay packer or

what come on here we go is he going what do you well how's this thing end when's it end does it end is it gonna end i have no idea i don't think anybody involved has any clue i honestly don't i don't know what needs to be done to mend any kind of things happening. But, yeah, right now it's not looking good. It's an uphill battle definitely for Green Bay, I think, to try to get them back. But what's your sense? What's your sense of what's going on here?

Yeah, what's your Hawkeye feel? Ooh, you know what I mean? Your Hawkeye. My sense is that I like LeFleur. Didn't LeFleur even say, like, I don't even want to take my mind there? What would it be like if Aaron's not here? I think that's where I'm at, where I'm like, no, I know firsthand

how unbelievable this dude is. I cannot imagine him not being in Green Bay, but right now, it's all up in the air. Honestly, I have no clue. Yeah, but when you just said it there, you didn't look nearly as sad as LeFleur did, so we should definitely dive into those a little bit more and everything like that. I have a lot more power in the decision than LaFleur has right now, don't I?

Well, you might. So that might be a part of the problem. Right? Oh, yeah. That might be a part of the problem, maybe. What's that? What? What's the problem?

Well, remember, LaFleur even went to bat, I guess, for Will Fuller in the middle of the year last year during trade, and that just kind of got pushed aside so you saying that you have as a joke you said i got more power in this thing than the floor does as a joke that might be true you might you actually might because remember there was that thing going around that duke the kins called yeah age or aj and said how do we make this thing right so that was not going around ever that was from you no no no. That was reported. AJ's not as bummed as, you know, LeFleur because he knows if Rodgers goes to, you know, the Las Vegas Raiders, he'll get on every tour bus in America.

Oh, you're 100% right. You're 100% right. The connections for Hawk will only skyrocket. Yep, you're right. Tour bus. Oh, for like musical acts? Yeah, because, you know, whenever Bret Michaels came to see see Aaron Rogers in Green Bay and then you ended up on the tour bus. He said, where's AJ Hawk? With the affliction t-shirt.

Sounds like you guys were in the room. Here we go, AJ! Here we go! Jesus. Did you guys do that? Did you do any songwriting on the bus? No, I have not dabbled in any songwriting. There it is. There it is.

Who has longer hair? That is so amazing. Isn't it? Yeah. Did you get the sense his hair was real there? I was going to ask the same question. It seemed real to me. Yeah.

Still real to me, damn it. It touched the ring. All right, let's get to some phones here. Let's go to Dustin in Montana. What's going on, Dustin? Not much, man. Broncos country out here, and on behalf of all of Broncos country, I'd like to, in one month's time, welcome Aaron Rodgers.

The greatest sporting franchise ever created. There we go. Congrats, Aaron. Way to go. Do you have any insider information? Same quarterback. Do you know any insider information, Dustin, on that's going to happen? John

Elway just got it done once with your man Peyton. Got to have faith he's going to do it twice. Gave him the keys. Just gave Peyton the keys to do whatever you want to do. I don't know. That's going to have to be a big move and the Packers are going to have to agree to it. It is the conversation right now, though. I feel so bad for those

kids who got drafted. Those young men who got their dreams made. The only thing anybody's talking about is Turd Ferguson. Him wearing Turd Ferguson in that interview, AJ. One of my favorite moves. Just with everything that's going on. He knew

as soon as he pops onto that thing, there's going to be a screenshot of it. And just knowing, oh, everybody's going to zoom in on this. Fucking beautiful. Well played. It is absolutely beautiful, AJ. Yeah, just like a lot of things, like you do stuff to entertain yourself. And it seems like that.

I have no idea what this is about or who made this for him. But, yeah, he wore it, and he's obviously just having fun. Let's go to Andrew in Florida. What's going on, Andrew? Diner in Florida. Obviously, just having fun. Let's go to Andrew in Florida. What's going on, Andrew?

Diner in Florida. Boys, AJ, how the hell are we doing on this marvelous Overreaction Monday? Oh, okay. We're feeling magnificent, pal. What do you want to talk about? Absolutely magnificent. I just want to talk about how Jason Light is the absolute greatest drafter that I can think of in recent memory. I mean, you look at who he's picked up, Tristan Warf last year.

Unbelievable. Pretty good. And picking up Kyle Trask in the second round for a steal. I mean, he's just doing it. Absolute steal. You're right, Andrew. Bongo's fucking got a complicated system. I was going to say, that thing looks tight. Bongo's got a complicated system up here in the front.

I can't figure out which one's going which way. It's going to be tough to make the camera if I can't figure it out. I do have the old unicorn going right now. Oh, nice. Yeah, it's like, well, I'm like a racehorse. Put that around your waist. Yeah, it's like, well, I'm like a racehorse. Put that around your waist.

Talking about big old dick. Look, it looks like a goose right now. Look, I just made a goose. Wow. That's incredible. You see, there's the feathers in the back right there. It's an angry goose. Oh, no.

Geez. All right. Who did Bongo? Who did bongo don't look at me nope it was you it was you why would it be me no gumpy did it i think you need like a passport and stuff like that to the air clan let's go uh peter in Connecticut. Jesus, what's going on, Peter? Gentlemen, how go the battles? Hey, not too shabby, pal. How are you? I'm doing well.

Listen, come to my house. Great. You can't have a better U.S. than this. You can buy Hartford for plus. Go to the Pittsburgh River. Yeah, I agree. Pittsburgh Riverhounds.

I think he said Pittsburgh Riverhounds. That team, great at soccer. AJ, you wouldn't be able to fucking stand a chance against the Pittsburgh Riverhounds, AJ Hawk. I don't know. I think I might do all right. CJ in Washington, what's going on, dude? How's it going? Not too shabby.

CJ, what do you want to talk about? All right, here we go. Is Gunter Kuntz in the floor? The next Belichick and the Stats that they're getting ready to do a spike bowl? talk about all right here we go is gunta coons in the floor the next bella checking the fact that they're getting ready to do a uh spike bowl oh or are we on aaron rogers side saying hey you know what i'm a packer fan fuck green bay right now i want aaron to be successful as a human being because of what this show has made him out to be very nice to see jay i think that what if they do go on to win a spike bowl just like tom and bill did after the alleged jimmy g tom brady situation that happened behind closed doors because tom

won the mvp then right tom won the mvp in 2017 yeah so that kind of threw a wrench in the entire we're going to trade him we're going to use jimmy g just like we've done with everybody else then that allegedly explodes behind closed doors they go on to have a spiked Super Bowl together and then Tom ends up leaving seems like that is setting up to do the exact thing right now over there in Green Bay whatever the case if you're a Green Bay Packers fan you don't care if it's a spiked Super Bowl you don't care what it is as long as you win a Super Bowl, but it feels like the Aaron, Tom, Peyton Manning situation at the end is very similar here. It's going to be fascinating to see how this plays out, AJ.

Well, don't you think if you are a Packers fan, you have to hope and pray that they can get a spiked Super Bowl because the only way they have a chance of winning the Super Bowl is if Aaron Rodgers is back on the roster. I just think if he shows up. You guys don't know. Jordan Love. Okay.

Taking massive leaps. It's nothing against him, though. Yeah, it's nothing against him. Think about it, though. He ain't fucking Rodgers. Nobody is. Nobody's Aaron. But I don't think they know what they have in Jordan Love.

I mean, he wasn't even the backup last year. How many reps could he get? I'm just telling you, this is what some people would say. To be honest, we don't know. We don't want the headache anymore. We'll move on, Jordan Love. We'll probably be able to get three ones out of this if we really won or whatever. There's some people that are probably saying that.

You people are stupid. Those people need to realize you need to keep old 12 on that roster for at least another eight years, which he probably has in there. I feel like places get spoiled with things, and they just don't even realize what hell looks like. And then you ask the people in Detroit and Cleveland, and they're like, don't do what you're doing, okay? Don't continue to do what you're doing.

This is going to get bad. This could get bad. And it's like Ty might be staring down being the owner of a team that's just miserable for a while while if this whole thing blows up, which we're not sure it will. Ask Patriots fans. Like you said, unless they think Jordan Love is going to win the MVP next year, unless he can just slide in and win the MVP next year,

then there is no reason to get rid of Rodgers and ride with him. I enjoy playing for the now, but Green Bay's always been an organization that looks at the future. That's right. Foreseeable future. They said Aaron's here for the foreseeable future. Then they said we're not trading the guy. Then there's people saying, well, he's not playing.

And there's this. It's all going to continue to boil as we continue to roll here. Did you see Michael Vick run a 4-7-2 this past weekend for the run-rich run? Unbelievable, AJ. What would you run right now? 6-7 flat, maybe? Well, we had a family knockout game going yesterday with like 8-10 of us, and I tell you what, I mean, I was playing hard, but

it was very painful. Who won? Who won? Oh, I won a few times. My 8-year-old won a few times. Both of my brothers each won. Pistol did not win, unfortunately. He stepped in a little bit. It hindered him a little bit, but he didn't win. So when were you down there? When did you come back from the Derby? I got there at 4 a.m. after the show on Thursday night,

so Friday morning, and we left about 9 p.m. Friday night and got home at 1. What the hell? Were people still up when you got there? Surprisingly, when we rolled in at 3.30, a good chunk of the guys were still up waiting, hanging out. Oh, they were having a good time. Imagine the conversations that were happening there. They were probably going to get leaked, I assume, at some point.

They're on Cali time, too. Yeah, well, Miles Teller is from Philly. That's right. Miles was ready to go. I was like, sorry, but I got to go to bed, man. It'ser is from Philly. That's right. Miles was ready to go. I was like, sorry, but I got to go to bed, man. It's like 4 almost. Oh, so Miles Teller has a good time. Miles, yes.

Miles, he's one of us. I'm actually going to send him a text. We should have him call into the show sometime. If Miles Teller would come on his show, I'd be thankful for it. Look at you being a kid. He's a big Philly fan. He was getting mad because he's a big Philly fan. I was like, oh, Eagles are garbage.

They're going to be so terrible. And then he would come back. He's like, wait, are you serious? Do you really think they're going to be that bad? Get all emotional. Hey, Devontae Smith, I like that. That's good, man. Not everybody in their front office was excited about it, though.

There was a big fist bump blow off situation. Fuck you from an old guy. He's about done with it. I assume he's not going to be a part of the Eagles organization for much longer. No, no. After that whole thing. The draft is fascinating. All these kids could stink.

They could all be great. Can't wait to watch and find out. Can't thank you enough for choosing to listen to this show. I know there's a lot of things you could listen to. The fact that you allow us to penetrate not only your ear holes, but your day-to-day schedule, we can't thank you enough. We hope today was a show you said, you know what? Worthy of my investment of time.

I think so today. I hope so. If not, we'll be back at it tomorrow. We'll be better. Be a friend, tell a friend. If not, just act like it never happened. Ty, please play some independent music and propel these people into a beautiful Monday night. We'll see you tomorrow. ស្រូវតែរសារបស់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្វាប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់� Thank you. សូវាប់បានប់បានប់បានប់បានប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប់ប�ាប់បានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបានបា Thank you. Bye.