The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 407 - May The 4th Be With You, Peter Schrager, Congressman Anthony Gonzalez, & The Insider's Insider, AJ Hawk

Episode Date: May 4, 2021

On today's show, Pat and the boys chat about the Aaron Rodgers situation and where things currently stand while they wait for the Insider's Insider, AJ Hawk to join the show and divulge more information, plus they get down to the meaning of May the Fourth be with you. Joining Pat and AJ is NFL Insider, co-host of Good Morning Football, NFL Insider for Fox and friend of the show, Peter Schrager to chat about what he's hearing from the other side of things with the Aaron Rodgers situation, why he doesn't think Rodgers leaked the news to Schefter, what he thinks will ultimately happen, and if there was ever a chance he was going to be dealt on draft night (28:34-43:14). Pat and AJ also chat about swimming in the waters of the insider game, if he has any more thoughts on the Rodgers situation, and much much more. Later, US Congressman and friend of the program, Anthony Gonzalez joins Pat and AJ to give an update on the status of sports gambling in Ohio, and how the show might have been a driving contributor in getting a bill to be processed (1:31:27-1:41:05). Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow and listen every day on Mad Dog Radio, Sirius XM Channel 82. We appreciate you all for listening, come and laugh with us, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello, it is Tuesday, May 4th. May the 4th be with you, Ty. Hey, may the 4th be with you as well. May the 4th be with, you know, all the listeners right now. Honestly. Are you mic muted? No, it just sounds very, very loud back here. So I'll just kind of turn it down a little bit. All right, let me start. Hello, it is Tuesday, May 4th. May the 4th be with you, Ty. And also with you. Oh, thank you for that, man.

Hey, you bet. May the 4th be with all the listeners. Everybody out there. How about it? Great day to be alive. It is a great day to be alive. I've never seen a Star Wars movie, but the fact that it's around here for five decades,

stay in power like no other, fans that are passionate and loyal, may the 4th be with you. Yeah! Enough of that. Let's get to the show. Hey, good conversation today. Schrag stops by, gives us some information. Fans that are passionate and loyal, may the 4th be with you. Yeah! All right, enough of that. Let's get to the show. Hey, good conversation today.

Schrag stops by, gives us some information. The insider to the insiders, AJ Hawk, who's being headlined and clipped all around the internet right now is here. The boys have fantastic stories, questions, and things to talk about. Let's have a May 4th that we'll never, ever forget, shall we? Hell yeah! All right, if you like the show, by the end of it, please be a friend, tell a friend. If not, just act like it never happened. Let's get to it. This is a sports show, but how could we not

give a massive shout out to the incredible Star Wars fans. Star Wars faithful, huh? Ty, you watched that movie? Ty, your thoughts on Star Wars faithful? May the 4th be with you guys. May the 4th be with you, guys. Hey, may the 4th be with you.

Okay, Connor, you're a big Star Wars guy. I love Star Wars. May the 4th be with both of you and everyone back there as well. No, may the 4th also be with everybody in here at Boston. Connor, all the boys in the back, we appreciate the hell out of you for watching today. I have no idea what that means, all right? But I do know that the Star Wars fan base is one of the most impressive things I have no idea what that means. Alright, but I do know that the Star Wars fan base is one of the most impressive things I

have ever seen. The ability to withstand the loyalty and the passion for what seems to be maybe five decades at this point, maybe six decades is unbelievable. Now, my wife, very new to Twitter this morning, dropped herself right into a fucking buzzsaw. She says,

listen, never seen Star Wars, but I have seen Star Trek. Tomato, tomato. Listen, I do not stand side by side with her thoughts. I've never seen any of the Star Wars movies either, and you can stack Star Trek on top of that. I've never seen that either. But I will not stand for the slander coming at potentially me because her doing what she did to Star Wars. Can't do that. I've never seen that either. But I will not stand for the slander coming at potentially me because her doing what she did to Star Wars.

Can't do that. And you know what? This weekend my wife and I, you know what we're going to do? You're going to watch all the Star Wars movies. Probably not. Every single one. Come on! Probably not. You should! But we should. And now we know we should. So shout out to May the 4th and the Star Wars.

Way to go. Thank you. I love my wife, but I had to call her immediately upon her tweeting that and say, do you know what's potentially on the other side of this thing? Do you know what's potentially on the other side of this? She was like, it's not that big of a deal. Whoa, whoa, whoa. You do not know.

It is. Massive deal. Star Wars is awesome. Yeah. It's May the 4th be with you. So that's why they made it May the Fourth be with you. And the Force is when I'm not your father. Bingo.

Pretty much. Right? You've pretty much seen the movie. Well, these are the memes and the gifs and the things. Yeah, I get it. You could guess the end, too, so it really doesn't matter if you watch them or not. I could. I could.

And by the way, the Force is going to be with whoever was May getting it for the whole time. I assume that is the end of it. So you've seen him. I assume. Hey, spoiler alert. May the Force be with you. It finally does actually get to the desired location. Bingo.

There you go. Is that right? He nailed it. Is that the move? Welcome to the galaxy far, far away. Jason McAfee, by the way, he probably did watch all the Star Wars, if I had to guess. No. Oh! So is this a McAfee, by the way, he probably did watch all the Star Wars, if I had to guess. No. Oh!

Is this a McAfee thing? Why did we never watch this? I've watched a few of them, like the older ones, but all the newer ones kind of sucked. Oh, Jay! Listen, so my wife, my wife not knowing, and never watching, and now my brother doing it. This is not reflecting

upon how sports dude feels. I just want to let everybody know that. Jeez Louise, Jay. I thought he was going to be the representative for the McAfee family, by the way. If anybody in our family would be. Yeah, thanks, Jay. Jesus. Good God. Zito, you watch Star Wars? Hell yeah. Okay,

Zito, you do watch Star Wars. You absolutely love it. Yeah, I love them all. Perfect. Big Star Wars guy. All right, good. Now let's move on. That Force that was fucking real. Awesome. Oh, yeah.

And when it made, you know, with you. Uh-huh. Oh, big deal. Yeah. Oh, wow. Yeah. Yeah. Foxy, you've seen these movies, right?

Yeah, I've seen all you have. I give him a big old. He's going to big old Foxy may the fourth be with you dude you can't be dancing on these graves made for that's what I told I told my wife this I was like listen not today Cinco de Mayo sure those tomorrow my birthday do what you got to do but on May the fourth you're making fun of Jesus on Christmas there's no no reason to do that, Foxy. I'll let them have their day. Go ahead, Nick. You have something back there?

I see you. Listen, just because you guys like Avatar, a much less successful franchise, it's only one movie. It doesn't mean you have to dump on everybody else's parade. What did I do? Why are you attacking me? Everybody knows that when you attack Avatar, you are attacking me.

I don't like Avatar either. Whoa! Hey, Jay, fuck you! Holy shit! Holy shit! This is unbelievable. My God. I'm done.

We're a sports show, okay? Done talking about this. It's tearing families apart. It's only Tuesday. Hey, Jay, on a very serious note, I just want to let you know, don't you ever fucking talk about Avatar again. That's why I don't. You hear me, Jay?

Jay, don't you ever do that. He's right, though. Avatar does. Whoa! Fuck you, Kyle! You're so good. I'm so sick of this. A lot of true colors are being shown.

Yeah, we learned a lot on May the 4th. Is this the 4th? Is this the 4th that they're looking for? A divisional one? No way. Hey, listen. May the 4th be with you, okay? I'm not trying to divide and conquer here.

I'm just saying Avatar fucking stinks. Jeez. Go to hell. I can't. There's no reason. Because whatever Avatar day is, Jeez. Go to hell. I can't. There's no reason. Because whatever Avatar day is, which there should be one. And by the way, us Avatar fans should meet up in our fan groups and kind of talk about a day like May the 4th here has for Avatar.

But on that day, maybe a week, by the way. Maybe Avatar should get a whole week. When it's Ava week, you know, whenever we're doing whatever we're doing, I want to let you know, I won't fucking come take shots at Star Wars, okay, because I know what you just did about Avatar. Retweeting, co-signing with that negative fuck back there, Jason McAfee, can't happen. Hey, if you want to give Avatar a day, a week,

you might as well give it two decades, because that's the next time we're going to see one of them goddamn movies. February 21st. By the way, I have been celebrating. Okay, I have been celebrating. That's the only long movie I've ever committed to. Ever. In my entire life.

Loved it. Absolutely loved it. People say you should probably try other types of movies like that out. And I'm like, nah, nah. Jacob Sully's my fucking guy. I ain't gonna do it. You watched one of the Avengers at one time. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

You saw that. Yeah, you're right. That was a bad idea, too. Because that was the culmination of all the other ones. Of like 15 different movies. A lot of, oh, who's this guy? What's that?

I did tweet alongside, oh, a metal guy just got real pissed at other guy, and everybody's like, you fucking idiot. Anyways, Star Wars is next. So may the fourth be with you all. And also with you.

And also with you. Not you, Ty, though. Fuck you. Yeah, and you too, Joe. I want to letth be with you all. And also with you. Not you Ty though. Fuck you. Yeah and you too Joe. I want to let you and you too Nick because you started that by the way. We're almost past May the 4th and you came in and were like oh Avatar stinks and everybody's like yeah. You know what I've been waiting to tell you. That's unbelievable

what you did there Nick. Anyways this is not what Star Wars is all about. No. It's not. Star Wars is all about bringing people together. The good. The community. Star Wars is all about bringing people together. The good. The community. Okay? That's why May the 4th Be With You is still happening all these years later when Star Wars has been around since what?

Like the 50s? Jay, when did you start watching Star Wars, Jay? They are from like the 80s or 70s. Yeah, late 70s, I believe. 70s. So five decades. Whenever I said that earlier, I was right. Shout out me.

Because I remember seeing some terrible graphic stuff. And I'm like, oh, that had to be from like, but it was colors. Cutting edge at the time. Yeah, so I had to think of myself. So maybe I do know. I get it. Okay, but anyways, let's talk about some stuff that are happening in our world, shall we? Sounds good.

Sure. Terry Bradshaw can fuck right off. That's right. I didn't know how hard I was going to go with Terry Bradshaw, okay, can fuck right off. That's right. I didn't know how hard I was going to go with Terry Bradshaw here with what he said. He called Aaron weak, I think. He said he's so weak because he got upset. And I forget, he also said he's dumb as a box of rocks or something. Terry Bradshaw said about Aaron Rodgers.

Pot calling the kettle black. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Okay, so listen, this is just like the may the fourth thing don't need to be taking shots anybody else although somebody's taking a shot in this particular stance so we would be sticking up for somebody by taking a shot up uh back at him we don't have to question terry bradshaw's intelligence okay the man's been on tv for a long time and i think he has private planes he's made football a football living at a very high level for a long time i think we can all appreciate and respect that.

He goes from winning Super Bowls for the Pittsburgh Steelers to never talking to the Pittsburgh Steelers again, but also maintaining a football career for also like four decades at this point. A lot of people love him. He has a massive role on that Fox NFL Sunday show. But it feels like when he opened his mouth here about Aaron Rodgers, I've never seen somebody look like a bigger hypocrite or fucking idiot. Legitimately.

Now, granted, I'm sure I have, and this is me potentially living in the moment, but there's no reason for Terry Bradshaw to bury Aaron Rodgers like this. Terry Bradshaw has been through some beefs and things, especially with the Steelers organization, I do believe. He's come out and said some things that have been blatantly wrong about people because of personal feelings. So, like, I don't think Terry Bradshaw is a human that should feel okay

talking about this situation. But I do have respect for the career that Terry Bradshaw has had. So I'm kind of torn on this thing. Did not expect this from Terry Bradshaw, I think. Maybe I should have. I'm not 100% sure. But it just feels like there's people now attacking Aaron, and everybody's thinking, well, Aaron wanted this out.

I don't think Aaron wanted this out. I think this is legitimately not aaron's like hey i want the public to know about this but i do believe there is some real passionate shit happening behind the scenes i mean there it's obviously being being documented but i just i don't like the thought of other people who don't know the entire situation if they were in that situation i assume they would be pissed as well coming out and talking about it now i just this is a fucking weird time to kind of be an aaron rogers fan i think well and i don't know you look at the stuff it's like it's kind of what you go back to say about like i mean granted he is a legend and everything but like these old guys talked about how the game you know like it's like guess what now guys like elite quarterbacks like they do have a say in personnel decisions. It happens around the league.

So to use that as the lynch point of his argument, why he's weak and everything, I mean, shit, Terry Bradshaw got lost trying to find our set at Radio Row. So I mean, I don't know. He's still looking. So I don't know if he should be the end-all, be-all on this. But it is just, it's interesting. It kind of just seemed like it was out of nowhere. Yeah, because, you know, there's been some quotes from older quarterbacks

that show up in places that we would never expect. And we're like, what the fuck are you talking about? Now, Terry is associated with the NFL. So, obviously, every single thing that he says has a lot of weight behind it as well. So, whenever he says stuff like this, it kind of, you know, it just makes me go like oh i fucking hate that guy i guess but maybe he has a reason to feel this way maybe him and aaron have a certain relationship may i have no idea i don't know anything about

that but this aaron rogers situation in this story it is not slowing down now we try to figure out why it's because there's nothing else to talk about yeah we could talk about all the drafted players which by the way, should. They'll probably be great. I'd like to see them do something first, and then we'll kind of go ahead and judge that because I don't want to be caught in one of those freezing cold takes, which I could be caught in a lot because we do overreact to a lot of things. But saying that this person's going to be unbelievable

or this person's going to stink, I don't want to be a part of that strictly because there's a chance any one of these guys could be the greatest of all time, and there there's a chance any one of these guys could be the greatest of all time and there's a chance that any one of these guys could be the worst of all time like there there could be the biggest bust in the history of the nfl draft sitting right here oh yeah or there could be the greatest draft pick in the history of a franchise right here i mean it is it is such a a crapshoot so this aaron rogers situation is not going away because there's really nothing else to talk about at this particular time by the way going into the draft he was almost the full conversation because how much the football world changes if this changes where does he go what the

vision becomes huh what do the packers do what is the trade worth for future potential moves now that uh peyton has moved tom has moved a has moved, is this just a thing that happens? Now Matthew Stafford has moved. Is this just a thing that everybody can expect? There's a lot that weighs into this. And if you're a Packers fan, you've got to be holding on. Obviously hope that it's not going to happen and you're not going to kind of stray away.

But it feels like everybody that's on TV or talking right now in the sports world has a source. Whether it's a source from around the league uh that i've heard from gms around the league who think that there's no way this ends well in green bay okay so that person saying that who are they getting their information from then this other person's like they think they can come to a reconciliation it's like well who are you talking to right now everything is so speculation but i think there is a problem but can they make it up could they not none of us have a fucking clue no yeah and i think that's why it's so hard to even like know what's going on because

it does feel like there's just so much misinformation out there and it's all from you know unnamed sources and stuff like that but you're right i mean at this point it's like you're kind of just holding on to see what's next because it's tough to envision anything with the packers if aaron rogers isn't there. Okay, so Michael Gertie, Dirty Gertie, drawn to the game, works for us. Okay, he's currently remote. He's been to the office. I assume at some point we will try to figure out whether or not he should be full-time with us or he can continue to work remotely. That's his life, our life, our business, everything like that, but he works for us he sent a graphic over yesterday uh in preparation for today that basically had uh may the fourth be with you okay so it had it had a

jeopardy uh section right there you see jeopardy oh yeah then it had obviously gutekunst in green bay here and then it had mark schlareth and the denver broncos over there and it's basically like aaron choosing his fate or trying to figure it out he works for our company is in our group text knows everything that we say basically he thought there was a chance he was going to retire and go to jeopardy okay when he made this graphic right everybody thought there was a chance that retirement could really happen like hey he'll hold out games he'll retire he'll do that whole thing then aj came on yesterday and was like there's he's not retiring it's like okay so that kind of gets pushed off the list or

whatever so now it's like now do we know if what aj is saying in aj's conversations with whoever like aj was with him this past week and i assume he talked to him but was aj trying to find information whatever we assume that aj if he's going to speak on this is right yeah okay i'm going to assume when aj speaks and it's right so with that being said we can get retirement off of there and he doesn't want guti fired he said that is that is not he does not want good to conspire that is not something that's what aj relayed message to us so it's like okay so if he doesn't want him fired is there more of a chance you think of them potentially coming back together once you start dissecting credible information in your mind now i don't know what credible information is for everybody else i don't know what everybody else

is in my mind though if aj saying he's not retiring and he's not out saying hey we need to fire guti i wonder if if that means there's more of a chance he's going back to green bay than going elsewhere than we originally thought or is it still a potential standoff well and it could it be both you know could this be you know one more last year and then like all right guys like clearly i don't want to be here anymore with the front office. Like now I'm going to move on. A little Spite Super Bowl. Yeah, Spite Super Bowl. Everyone's kind of more prepared for it.

Like, hey, this is the last time we're going to see Rodgers. Be happy that he's even on your team this year because next year he's going to Denver. He's going to the Raiders. He's going somewhere else. And Green Bay fans should be thinking to themselves, oh, this is that Jeter year. Yeah, exactly. This is that Jeter year. When he exactly. This is that Jeter year. When he comes to town, let's go hot.

Thank you, 12. Yeah. Love you, 12. Thank you, 12. A lot of those. Yeah, but that could be the case. We have no idea. We have no clue.

I don't know if anybody has any idea how this is going to play out. Both Green Bay, I'd assume Aaron has something he would like to happen. Once again, I have not talked to him. AJ has those. So when he's on, we will try to pepper him with questions,

but like, I would assume he knows like, Hey, how this could work. I wonder if green Bay does. And if they are, if they're trying to or not, because that article where we first learned about this was a lot of like

green Bay trying to tell people we we've done, we've done everything. We've exhausted every option. We've tried our best. We've tried our best to do this whole thing. That is clearly what that article was, which, by the way, in their sense, in that article, they might have been.

But from the other side, what we're being told is there's a lot of stuff that has got to this point. So it's a fascinating storyline in the sports media world, especially when there's nothing else going on. It's hard not to talk about this this because if he goes to a team, any other team, it's like, oh, they're going to the Super Bowl. The Green Bay Packers team, a lot of talent on that offensive side. Defensive side, got some guys as well.

But if he goes to another team, let's assume most teams he goes to is probably going to have a similar amount of talent maybe of Green Bay or more maybe, let's assume, on the whole team, not just there. But then you can also, on the whole team, not just there, but then you can also assume that some people are going to try to get to there and they're probably going to be a place that's going to be like, let's go ahead and welcome this type of thing as opposed to potentially shove it away. So if you're Green Bay, would you go to a place like the Chargers

or the Bengals who have a young quarterback in Burrow and Herbert and be like, hey, let's do this. You want Rodgers? Imagine Tom Telesco. Yeah. Tom Telesco would be like, I, let's do this. You want Rodgers? Imagine Tom Telesco. Yeah. Tom Telesco would be like, I love Herbert. I fucking drafted Herbert. We're staying

with Herbert. Aaron fucking Rodgers. I mean, he could play another six, seven years, this guy. He could play another seven, eight years, maybe, however long he wants to. It feels like he is taking care of his body. This past year, he said it was the best he's ever felt. We see Tom do it. it yeah because teams have to start thinking like this which by the way

is even more painful to think about as a packers fan i would assume it's like yeah this isn't just like a like when peyton went and we all everybody assumed okay two years or whatever it was three i think all together maybe maybe four or whatever if he plays another six seven years i mean that my career was eight years okay if he plays another six years or whatever. If he plays another six, seven years, I mean, my career was eight years, okay? If he plays another six years or whatever, which he could, he's 36 or whatever, he can get 42, very easily do that, especially with how he plays and how athletic he is

and how smart he is and how live his arm is at 36. I mean, you're staring down maybe the actual future of a franchise as well as opposed to the short-term. This is just short-term, short-term. It's like, what is long-term? Is six years long-term? That's a fucking long-ass time. Yeah short term. This is just short term short term. It's like what is long term? Is six years long term? That's a fucking long ass time. That's a very long time. That would be

absolutely amazing for anybody you think at this point. Now I'm not saying Telesco would do it. No. Justin Herbert would be one of the situations you assume not happen. Because I got 17 years with him. Yeah but there's a lot of GMs that are thinking out there like pfft. Weak it. Shanahan I guess did call out yep I was

gonna say Shanahan did call the floor I guess and the floor said you're wasting your time because Shanahan said in a interview I think it was with Rich Eisen he said if we were to wake up on Friday morning and learn that Aaron Rodgers was getting traded or whatever we would have felt very dumb for not doing our due diligence he said he called the floor the floor said no that ain't happening and he said okay okay, sounds good. He moved on. So the Packers said only one team reached out. Was it that call or was it another call or the Packers lying?

Our team's not really thinking it's real. Now you have to digest all that information. I thought they were lying because I think Gutekunst came out and said nobody's called. There has been conversations about Rodgers getting traded. But from what it sounds like, that Shanahan call might have been real quick but do you think they would move like lance if it does become a point where it's like okay now we have to trade them they have a quarterback who hasn't played any games yet and clearly the niners want them there was people that i have respect for tweeting and stuff like that immediately after the broncos pick just certain i think right yeah

they're like do you think the Packers potentially told them the draft Sertain? And that type of thing. Like, there's people that think that if there was conversations happening for Aaron Rodgers, that there was a chance like, okay, do you want the number three overall pick? And they're like, no, we're not there yet or whatever.

And they're like, well, if we were, like that whole, that was being talked about on Twitter. And I think that's massive. Obviously, the fact that the NFL is so large and that conspiracy could even happen is hilarious. But it's like people were thinking that in depth that teams would be willing to do whatever to get Aaron in there. Just like I thought teams would be willing to do whatever to get Tom Brady in their building. I might be wrong again.

And maybe the reports were wrong last year. But if you get that person in your building, which, once again, this stinks to listen to as a Packers fan, I would assume. You get that person in the building, everybody's better because they're like, oh, we got a guy that can get us there. So if we don't get there, it's not that guy's fault. It's probably our fault. I'm not going to be the reason.

So the extra reps, the extra film study, the better eating habits, the sleeping, everything is heightened by everybody. If you got a guy, the equipment managers, the athletic trainers, the media people, everybody, everything is up because it's like, Hey, we got a goddamn guy. I got a chance to watch Peyton, uh, operate and he made me a better punter. And we have nothing in common in position of what we do at all. You know, he made everybody better. He made equipment managers want to be better at their jobs because of it. It's like, oh, we got a guy.

Then when Andrew came in, we got a guy. I hear stories from other places and people are like, oh, this happens. This happens. I'm like, why? Why was it? And I started thinking about it. I think it's because there isn't somebody at the main position that is like, hey, this is how we do it. This is where we're going. Don't fuck around. You can have fun, but let's go ahead and win. It changes everything. It changes just the course of the way everybody operates.

I assume Tom Brady was wanted by every team. It came out that that was not the case. It worked out for Tampa pretty good. Hopefully I won't be wrong about this one either. I'd assume there's 25 teams that are like, we should look at having Aaron in our building. Everything gets better when you've got a guy. And when you don't got a guy, life sucks for everybody.

All for long, long, long time. You might get lucky and get a couple wins because of your scheme or something like that. But if you don't got a guy, you're fucked. And everybody knows it. And to your point, that's the part that sucks the most. It's not like he's to the point where it's like, okay, the, you know, like, I mean, he said he can see a whole 18. But it's not like, you know, this is just going to be like a stopgap for two years and then he's done. Like, he legitimately could play another, like, six to eight years.

Like, have a full career at another, you know, another place. And that's just like, I don't know, it's just wild to think about. You know, you just never thought that things would get to this position might be his best football oh yeah peyton manning broke all of his own records yeah the year after he left and went to denver tom brady threw more deep balls or whatever than he ever has since maybe randy moss or whatever yeah it's won a super bowl it's worst case scenario i mean i can't i was sitting where he was last year it is it's not happening you were I mean, I can't. I was sitting where he was last year. It's not happening. You were saying, by the way.

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Of course not. There was hope that he'd come back. There's no way. Now it's at the point today where we know Belichick and Brady were fucking. Could you imagine Terry Bradshaw, though, calling Aaron Rodgers dumb as a box of rocks? Oh, man. Imagine Aaron and Terry Bradshaw talking.

Yeah. I mean, Terry Bradshaw's a moron. They should just go on Jeopardy together. Terry Bradshaw's smarter than me. Okay. Terry Bradshaw's a moron. They should just go on Jeopardy together. Terry Bradshaw's smarter than me. Okay? Terry Bradshaw's smarter than me. He's been able to work. See, that's bullshit.

Yeah, you don't. That's bullshit. No, he's not. But I'm just saying, he's smarter than me. Terry Bradshaw and I would be very similar, I think. Terry's smarter than me. I think. We don't know this.

Terry has been successful for like 30 years now okay not off of his football accolades by the way just by the way he's been able to operate so let's assume business-wise he does have some sort of brain or somebody's with him he's some sort of intelligent but aaron is one of those dudes who's just like he's a smart guy yeah he's an alien like he's an actual smart guy like hey that guy's super smart guy like hey i understand you and me maybe you might be above me by the way smart wise whatever the case is we're here but aaron's one of those fucking guys he's like one of those smart he's one of our smarts yeah having this entire thing so the dumb of the box of rocks if you're going to go after him i would put that one back into the holster and i would pull out another one that maybe has

a little bit more relevance to the certain situation you're in like rogers wants to go on jeopardy against real jeopardy contestants yeah you already beat an astronaut yeah it's just there's different levels you already beat an astronaut and a shark but he wants to go play against the super nerds the real one and by the way to them we say may the fourth be with you hell yeah hey well a lot of may the fourth be with you is in the jeopardy houses oh yeah i do believe a lot of them now my wife she with you is in the Jeopardy houses. Oh, yeah. I do believe. A lot of them. Now, my wife, she showcased this on her Twitter earlier by the Star Trek Star Wars thing.

We are a wheel fortune house. Yeah. Okay. But we do watch Jeopardy to watch our smarts battle it out. I like to see our walking, talking smarts battled out against each other. Because there's some smarts up there that get embarrassed by the other smarts. Oh, yes. It's nice to know we have those smarts.

You're picking up factoids, too, for conversations down the line, you know. You know, my memory is very strong. Jeopardy has not been something that has... My brain has just... Transitioned? It has not. Yeah.

I don't know why. Because you would think with the way my brain operates... You'd remember the clues and be able to just. Bang, pow, cool. How you doing? Can't do it. I just think it's because I'm not interested. Book stuff.

Yeah. It's a good category, though. Exactly. Potent potables. You're fucking. Last night there was comedy. They had a comedy one. That one was pretty good.

Yeah. That one was pretty good. Crushed that one. I did. Yeah, I won. I had a clean sweep of that one. Yeah. But would my timing have been good because I didn't play video games?

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No. Minus 30. So if you live to 130, you ain't got shit left. No. Minus 30. Well, if it starts around 30, this is one of those questions on a test where, you know, begins around 30 in the testosterone production declines by roughly 1% per year. So does it start at zero or does it start at 30?

That's the thing. This is where they can get you. It's one of them damn word problems. This is one of those problems where you're like, oh, wait a minute. Which, can I ask a follow-up? Anyways, I was good at those tests because I always viewed it as me versus the fucking teacher. That's right. I don't know what's going on, but this is

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That's what I want. Now we know. Hey, Roman. Thank you, Roman. Thank you, Roman. Thank you, Roman. Join us now, ladies and gentlemen, AJ Hawkins. AJ, your news yesterday that Aaron didn't want Goody fired.

And also, there's zero chance he retires that made some waves hey that made some waves aj you're a big news insider now i don't know if you know that uh i do not think that is the case but uh i think there's some people out there that are aren't they staying strong um with the fact that they're they're claiming that aaron's saying fire goodie i don't know. Has there been rebuttals to yours? Oh, yeah. Oh, you have seen?

Oh, people have, I assume, since you said it, and then we said that you said it, there's people that are now attacking your inside information. Oh, because you're in the waters. Listen, we told you. When you get into that insider's game, it does. If the chum gets out there, sharks are coming too. You can eat a little bit.

Have you been eating some on the shins? Have people been saying you're wrong? No, I've been fine. I haven't really paid a whole lot of attention to it, but I know a couple people did send me something where people kind of doubled down. Okay, all reports are that Aaron wants Gutenkut's fired or he's not coming back.

Oh, wow. Aaron's in an insider. AJ's in an insider beef over Aaron right now. You were in that photo. Imagine, like, disputing AJ's reports when AJ was with the guy all weekend. When this – this happened. You can still dispute my reports. I mean, I'm not speaking for him, so you could definitely still – You're not, but this is your vibe from being here.

There's no other person that's speaking that has been around him. Tariko did, and then what came out was he's disappointed that this went public, and then now Terry Bradshaw's calling him weak and all this. Box of rocks. It's insane what's going on with your

friend right now, though. I just want to let you know that. It is actually insane what's going on. I'm sorry, our friend, obviously. It is wild what's going on with your friend right now, though. I just want to let you know that. It is actually insane what's going on. I'm sorry, our friend, obviously. It is wild what's going on with him. Yeah, it is. With Terry Bradshaw, I feel like he's either misinformed or he just didn't fully look into what's going on. He acted like it was all about Jordan Love.

I don't know, Eric can't handle having another quarterback there going to threaten his job. I'm like, that's – I don't think that's even, that's barely a part of it. That's just one little tiny thing and a string of other things. Well, Jordan was, you know, he was drafted. So I would assume everybody understands that that is maybe a part of it, but it's not really Jordan Love as much as it is the overall grand decision. If I'm reading from the outside in accurately,

there's another person that's about to join us who might have some information from around the league, what the league is thinking about this. He joined us, I think, last week or a couple weeks ago. Was awesome. Incredible. Absolutely incredible. I tried to get him on last week. I forgot to recheck my DMs, so I fucked it up. Ladies and gentlemen,

joining us from Good Morning Football and Fox, I believe, Peter Schroeder. Yeah! Whoa! Whoa! Is that New York City, dude? New York. This is the taste of it.

I'm at the Brooklyn Bridge Promenade right now. This is New York City behind me. No one's ever going to say New York is dead. Look at this guy walking on the street. He's dead. He's alive. He's alive. He's alive.

He's alive. Let's go. Let's go. Thank you for joining us. That is the, that's a dope backdrop. I'm going to be honest. That's a big time flex right there. No big deal. You said no big deal. Um, uh, what are you hearing? What are you learning about this Roger situation? We were just talking about a little bit there. I don't know if you got the tail end. Uh, it's very fascinating. this has captivated everybody because this is a mount rushmore quarterback that could be on the move what are you hearing from around the league anything

outside of green bay other gms or anything like that talking about i'd also go through it from the insider's standpoint of the whodunit of like who leaked it and where to come from because i think the initial response was why would rogers do this and it was putting the onus on Aaron the more I sniff around on this and Pat I think you hit on it I don't think it's coming from Aaron yeah Aaron gets anything out of this this is not from Aaron if he was doing anything about being disgruntled up until this point it has been fairly under wraps publicly and I knowing the way he operates and he goes on your show and he talks to aj and he'll he'll he'll gladly hop on with some unorthodox media i don't see him as the kind of guy who's like i'm gonna plant things with schuster and glazer and rapaport and and go on

this like orchestrated thing on the day of the draft it's not in aaron's mo it's not his style he doesn't do it that way aaron operates a different way he'll go and do it on his own terms and you know what I'm saying like I just he wasn't gonna go to Adam Schefter on a Thursday and say hey at 5 p.m. Eastern you're gonna go with this story it's just not Aaron Rodgers it's not the other end of it I know the Green Bay guys and they're deflated they're devastated with this like the floor did not not want this is hell for them so there's something else at play and whether it be a rival agent or be a rival team or it's just like one of these deals where you know hey adam schefter's really good at his job and all the things that

he said were pretty accurate maybe schefter was waiting for the right time to drop a bomb and that's when he did it and it doesn't come from Aaron, and it's not said from Aaron. Maybe it's one of these deals where there was just good reporting going on. And when he said it and what he did, it was basically a report from ESPN. And guess what? No one's detracted any of it. I think a lot of it is factual. Aaron isn't happy.

And all that stuff that Schefter wrote I think is pretty accurate. And, AJ, you can tell me if I'm wrong. Please do. The fact that – We've been waiting for AJ to do the same thing, Trey. Ed Schefter wrote, I think is pretty accurate. And AJ, you can tell me if I'm wrong. Please do. We've been waiting for AJ to do the same thing, Trey. Hop in line, pal. The fact that it came out is what I'm surprised by and the whodunit part of it. The actual facts to it,

I don't think any of that is so crazy and so wrong and so off the bat. Yeah, I mean, I guess the question is whether did he want to deal with this behind the scenes the whole time or not? It would make sense if you read the statement that, yes, this wouldn't be put out by Aaron, especially the timing. If Aaron wanted to put this out, why wouldn't he put it out like at the beginning of free agency? If he felt like, hey, this is when we can try to move me, that's when you'd want to leak that info.

So I don't think it makes much sense. The timing is really weird to me. But speaking of the draft you do you know if there was any other teams that were inquiring trying to trade for aaron i don't look the pat i think shanahan came on the record and said he sniffed around by calling nataliflor but it didn't even get to the point where where they went there now look i would look at denver not taking a quarterback at nine and i would say that is curious and here's the deal with the timing of it and i made this point on Good Morning Football today.

Good show. It's like, good show. It's all right. It's a good show. You know, five teams just pretty much said we're out of the Aaron Rodgers game by taking quarterbacks in the first round. So it doesn't do him any good announcing this the day of the draft. Like you just said, AJ, if he came out in January or Februaryary or leaked it or whatever it was then you had teams like the jets and the

49ers okay of course the bears and all these teams that ended up drafting quarterbacks but if you drafted a first round quarterback you know it's really difficult a week later being like we're gonna now trade that guy and it's hard to even deal with the compensation the night to do it would be draft night and to put it out there would have been far far in advance of the actual draft so long long thing short i saw uh schlereth talking to you pat like i don't know denver's activity as far as whether they're working the phones or not george payton's a first year gm he was with the vikings for years he knows how good aaron rogers is but i have i i would think that them not taking a quarterback at nine and going with bridgewater and drew lock certainly leaves a door open for the Denver Broncos okay so

maybe the Denver Broncos okay cool but as you were talking there and it just this just hit me and once again I cannot reiterate this enough Aaron and I do not talk AJ does so when he speaks you gotta do that I do not this probably he's. So when he speaks, you gotta do that. I do not. He's probably pissed that this got public too, right? I would assume that's like another thing where he's like, what the fuck? Can I throw another thing in here with that? All he wants, I mean, not all he wants,

but something he really wants is that Jeopardy gig. This doesn't help the Jeopardy stuff. It makes him a controversial figure. He doesn't want headlines negative about him. Jeopardy wants Bill Whitaker or someone who's very like you know lavar burton no controversial coach so to have the packers fans or the nfl fans like trashing aaron does him no good on the jeopardy front either well he hosted great shrags let's go around now let's um it was awesome i loved them

is shrags whenever you get this information or you hear information, like for us, it's like, oh, who's a credible source? Who can we listen to? Who can we trust? How do you know who that is? You told us last week, I think, when you were on, that you and a couple, whether it was down at the Senior Bowl, you've known guys since they were like 20-something, just like an assistant and drinking together,

and now you're through there. But is there any place where you don't have or you don't know, or is there ever a time where a credible person gives you wrong information and it's like have burned a bridge or anything like that? Is there any chance that there is credible people giving information to people and it's different information to potentially stir up even more shit? No. And for the relationships that I have, I'll know when to push the buttons and push, but very rarely am I lied to or led astray or given wrong information. Now, you can look at my mock draft and say, oh, well, you didn't have that right. Well, that's a whole other thing.

I'm talking about stuff like this where it's like real deal stuff and where it's actual people's lives hanging in the balance and it's salary stuff and not really like i and i know who to trust and who to go to but very rarely will someone i guess have the balls to just lead me down a completely wrong thing because at the end of the day i've got a platform too and i think it's true like if someone was to feed me like hey look rogers you know said this and cursed and it wasn't right and it wasn't accurate i mean that's some that's some messed up stuff and so that's that's when it gets personal so i think everyone pretty much has their job i'd like to think that i do my job well and i don't run with with erroneous stories and i don't think shepter runs with all the other glazer like i don't think the guys who are the top of this thing like we have too much at stake to be wrong too often you know that's awesome hey by

the way that was a respect that gay that was like a real respect speech right there. Like, hey, listen, you want to fuck me, huh? Oh, fuck you. You buy me out. No, no, no. I buy you out. I don't even know how this goes. What do you have, Connor?

Yeah, Shregs, have you ever seen a draft room react the way the Lions did when they got Penn A. Sewell? And was that always their number one guy on their board? And on the flip side, have you ever seen a draft board like the Patriots or when Matt Jones fell down and they were like, yeah, all right, let's get out of here? Yeah, the Sewell thing. So all my intel on them was like they're going to trade back, trade back,

trade back, unless Sewell somehow falls to them. So he fell to them. And the thing is, like, Dan Campbell and Chris Spielman, like that is Penne Sewell what they got like that is exactly he fits the perfect perfect stuff but it wasn't just that their second round pick i don't know if you guys saw his press conference he throws out four f-bombs in his press love this guy love this guy he's awesome he wants it and then their fifth round fourth round picks guy barnes out of out of Purdue is like a heat-seeking missile. So they got guys that fit.

I don't know if anyone could catch a football on the Lions, but they got guys who fit what they're trying to build. And I've never seen anything like that. Don't need to catch it. You just run that thing. Hell, yeah. Don't worry about it. That's it.

Patriots are the Patriots. That's what they're going to do. I thought the dichotomy of the Rams war room where you've got a framed picture of Goodell in the pool and McVay in shorts, and then going to what we had in Cincinnati where it's like a drab building. It just shows the difference in the NFL.

Cincinnati did not deserve that, by the way. They still did not have an indoor facility. Let's work on that before we work on the draft room. What do you have, Ty? Schrags, are you hearing anything out of Philadelphia after Howie Roseman got denied the fist bump? Like, are people pissed with what they did in the draft? And is he ever going to get fired,

or is he just going to shit can everyone else around him who can't stand it? That was after a third-round pick, by the way. It was a third-round pick. We did not clarify that yesterday. The story behind that was that there was another player on the board. Obviously, the senior scout was Tom Donahue, who's been in the league forever, and he goes for the fist bump not knowing he's on tv he's like nah i wanted someone else and he was upset with how the board fell how he talked about it the day

after uh i love that we captured it on film and i actually liked how he's reaction he looks at him like what what like what like what do you want me to do like that's what we did like what um i don't think how he's getting fired anytime soon Because what they did was They loaded up on draft picks for next year And I think next year is going to be a really interesting draft Because teams are finally Going to get back on the road and scouting And teams are going to have the combine

And the hope is that they'll be a lot more intelligent And right now the Eagles have three first round picks For next year so I think those are Howies to spend And if they're really bad this year That means that those picks might be even more valuable So we'll see oh man that's good for next draft cycle for us yeah that's really good news for us like a potential you know fire that is the philadelphia eagles organization if they don't do well this year i mean it's going to get loud in philadelphia we got three ones though it's like whoa whoa okay okay here we go uh what are you guys talking about on good morning

football there's nothing huh there hey there is nothing we didn't know i i think we should have known this after last year but i think last year this time nothing was happening nothing in the world was true dry it's it's roger's speculation and we're already down that road and it's like we've already done it now for two days we're like all right there's no new information coming out there's only so much we can say and And then it's recapping the draft. But as you guys have learned over the last few years doing this show, and we do ours, you're now in the abyss of the NFL, the May and June. We're literally talking about schedule release party.

Like what game is going to go in? We sell it, man. We sell it. Traeger, we appreciate you so much, man. You're awesome on this show and on Good Morning Football and on Fox and on the NFL Network, by the way. I think you had some time during the draft. So great work on all of that.

Ladies and gentlemen, Peter Schrager. Thanks for having me. Hey, no problem. On the draft. Hey, is he still on? Schrag. Yeah. Hey, they set you up for failure with that microphone.

No, that's no good. It was at the beginning. It became good. But at the beginning, I think it was off a little bit. You look like a potential lip-syncing pop. You know, somebody that wasn't actually singing. But then it tightened up. It got a lot better.

It got a lot better. It got better. But it was loose there early. I was worried about you. All right. I apologize. We'll get better next time. Well, if you're going to have that, too, I think you've got to hit at least one.

Bye-bye. You know what I mean? Yeah. Peter Strayer. Yay! He loved it. Shouldn't have said it. Should have just let him go.

I didn't have to do that. Why did I do that? Because he loved it. God. Louie. At the beginning, it was out wide. What does it matter? He looked so cool there with the New York City in the backdrop

with those shades on. He was great on the coverage. He doesn't mind. If you're listening on Sirius, I'm sorry you missed the backdrop, but Schrager was going for coolest dude on earth. Literally in the shadows of New York City. And, by the way, sunglasses, had a vest on. Oh, he crushed it, AJ.

Crushed it right there. That guy's awesome. He looks good. Didn't they write some I think there's some piece on the whole show Good Morning Football and they talk about everyone moved out to the Burbs and Schrags. He's like, no, I'm in the heart of it. I think he lives in Brooklyn. He said, I'm still here. I need the energy. In the streets, he

taught us. Yeah. In New York City or whatever. AJ, you legitimately are dictating sports media right now. It's awesome. Isn't that cool that's pretty cool you're smoking those cigars up in your attic your axles at the door you're like you know i think uh no chance of him retiring and they're like whoa okay so now he's gonna not gonna retire i mean it is it is your friend our friend is he just said Aaron Rodgers speculation. That's the NFL network right there.

ESPN's doing the same thing. Fox is doing the same thing. This is a seismic type situation that he is involved in. Do you think he knows that? He knows that, right? Yeah, he has to at this point. Yeah, he has to feel it. I think he does probably as good as anybody of getting away from it

and not letting it dominate his life. I think he can still go about his life. But, yeah, I mean, I cannot imagine what it would be like. Yeah, it would be a tough – and no one feels bad for professional athletes. I don't feel bad for them at all. It's not what I'm saying. But, yeah, just doing like run-of-the-mill normal stuff would be really tough with all of this stuff surrounding you.

Like I don't know what he does. Turd Ferguson cannot go get groceries right now. No way. Turd Ferguson cannot go get a coffee. Turd Ferguson cannot go get groceries right now. No way. Turd Ferguson cannot go get a coffee. Turd Ferguson cannot be seen in public right now because there are going to be questions, especially out there where he is, where we all, you know what I mean? Yeah.

He is going to get tracked. There's probably people just parked. Shit, that's Rogers. Go get him. Parked outside of his house right now, if I had to guess. That's why he'd be even more mad that this got out, right? That it would only escalate his whole entire situation. Turd Ferguson's not. I mean,

him doing that in the middle of it is my favorite thing of all time. Just solidifies the fact that he is just hilariously cool bro. You know, like he knows what's going to happen here. It's fantastic, AJ. It is absolutely fantastic. What do you think he does today?

You think he's retiring? No, I do not think. Come on. He's probably working out and, you know, working out for the season, wherever that may be. Breaking. Breaking. Okay, so right now he is working out for the season.

Okay, so he's getting ready for the NFL season. Is he just going about his day as if it's business as usual? A.J. Hawk from the Derby photo. I mean, this is turning just ridiculous. But May 4th, yeah, I would assume this is when he's always working out and getting ready to start. Oh, okay. Holy shit!

So we are on schedule just another year. Okay, things have not thrown off any training. Okay, no, what do you think, though? Okay. Whoa, whoa, whoa, A.J., A.J. Slow down. Don't start speculating on your speculations, please. I'm not speculating.

I'm just telling you, if he was, let's say he's upset on your speculations, please. I'm not speculating. I'm just telling you. If he was, let's say he's upset with the Packers and says, I'm not coming back. You think he's just going to stop working out? He's going to continue to work out. If he's going to retire and do Jeopardy, pal. Yeah, May the 4th, he might be watching movies, but he's not watching movies. Instead, he's working out for the season.

And he loves Star Wars. He has a big Star Wars. He loves Star Wars. So you think on May the 4th, he is taking time away from Star Wars. Love Star Wars. So you think on May the 4th he is taking time away from Star Wars? On May the 4th, you think he's taking time away from Star Wars to go out there and train just as hard as he possibly can so he can

go back-to-back MVP here, you think? Yeah? Probably. That's why you want him in your building. You hear me? That guy fucking loves Star Wars. He's a long way away. I don't even think he was working out this time last year. We don't know. AJ said

he always works out on May the 4th. Well, he was squatting for sure. I'm not sure he was throwing yet, though. We don't know. Oh, is he throwing? Yeah, is he throwing? Is it big leg day today? Hey! Is it big power lift? Let's get under the squat rack.

Hey! Is he trying to run more? Is he trying to be a little bit more active so he can, you know, RPO in the thing? Ladder. What type of workout? Yeah, you think he's hitting the ladder? Yeah. My feet, my feet.

We doing it? We doing it? The icky shuffle, huh? Maybe. I don't know. I heard rumors that he's been throwing strictly left-handed. He wants to go throw right-handed. Oh, shit.

See, AJ, you can't do that. Okay? That's fucked up. I heard. That's what I heard rumors that he's been throwing strictly left-handed. He wants to go throw right-handed. Oh, shit. CJ, you can't do that. Okay? That's fucked up. I heard. That's what I heard. No. That's why we won't win an Emmy. Okay?

He's going to Miami. I take that back. Pat, I take that back. He looked me dead in the eyes. He's like, hey, I'm going to throw left-handed next year. He's like, Tebow was a great lefty. I'm going to be a great lefty. Is he going to go to tight end too like Tebow?

Oh, man. Actually, he might bulk up. That's why he's been doing all those squats he talked about last year. Hey, why don't you FaceTime him right now? See what he's doing. I don't want that. I don't want that. If it comes out that he's playing left-handed next year,

I will lose my mind. That would be awesome. He probably could. I would assume he could, by the way. Who's got the best right tackle in the league? Wow. Who is it? I don't know. That might be where he's going if he's playing left-handed.

That should be our speculation. Now that we know Aaron is planning on playing left-handed next season, let's really talk about some offenses that are crafted to the lefty miami yep is is one lane johnson's the highest paid right tackle philadelphia does need a quarterback they don't care if it's a lefty i did see this morning that there was potentially some brown speculation as far as aaron rogers could you imagine aaron rogers goes to cleveland plays lefty and wins a super bowl oh Oh, my God. The only quarterback in the history of the NFL that has won a Super Bowl with an entire season right-handed and an entire season left-handed

in a city that was never going to win a Super Bowl. Aaron Rodgers, how you doing? Keep moving. What a story. Broncos have the fourth highest paid right tackle, so if he's playing lefty in Denver, it all makes sense. And the air's a little bit thinner. Yeah, the air's a little bit thinner,

so what he might lose in a little bit of distance, he actually gains in altitude. Wow. It's all really coming together now. Thank you for that, AJ. Thanks, AJ. Thank you for that, AJ. Thank you, AJ.

You're welcome. And it'll give him extra years on his career because he can rest that right arm. So he'll go lefty next year, righty the next year, just rotate back and forth. Fuck, didn't even think of that. Man. Might play until he's 60.

Wow. Is this next George Blanda until he's 60. Wow. Just next door is Blanda. Good beat. All right, let's get to the phone, shall we? AJ, actually, before we get to the phones, we got to talk about some stuff. All right, what? Calm down, dude. I was going to move on.

Calm down. What is that? Your tone. I was going to move on, but since. Just get it out. Just spit it out, please. AJ. AJ. AJ.

What's your fucking deal, dude? What's your deal? I'm listening, man. I was going to talk about the Vikings. They were going to draft Justin Fields, which means they're out on Kirk Cousins. Or does that mean they're preparing for post-Kirk Cousins? I was going to talk about all that, especially in an NFC North that potentially doesn't have Aaron Rodgers in it anymore. Is that what you think that's potentially going to be the situation?

And how do you feel about the Vikings potentially drafting Justin Fields if that was the case? Well, they took Kellen Mond. I mean, we never know what this guy is going to be. In the third, right? Second, third. Was it the very end of the second or the very first? Because I think it was the very last pick in the second.

I did not expect him to go that far down. There was conversations about him being a guy there for a long time. Texas A&M kind of fell off the television. And then Jimbo. Yeah, they're kind of back a little bit now, aren't they? Yeah, what did you say, Z-Dother? Round three he got drafted. He got drafted in the third round.

Third round. Pick number 66. So I'm thinking that was the second pick in the third round. Third round. Pick number 66. I'm thinking that was the second pick in the third round. When did Kirk go? Second, third, fourth? Third, I thought. Third or fourth? Two years left on his deal, right? A lot of money.

Guaranteed. Full guaranteed, I think. What if Kirk goes back to Washington after this year? What? With Ron Rivera? Yeah. Bringing him in there? Give me Kirk, huh? I mean, we can't rule out Heineke being the future of the NFL. Hey, they almost beat the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

That Washington football team, no name. A little bit of a future, though, it seems like. Chase, old buddy Chase down there, absolute animal. You said coming out of Ohio State like people were saying, this guy's an alien. This guy's different than everybody, right? Yeah, that guy was an alien the day he walked on campus at Ohio State. I think I told this on the show.

I went to a training camp practice at Ohio State, and I saw this dude wearing number two, and I said, who the hell is that guy? He looks like Julius Peppers. And it was Chase, and it was like his third day there. He was a freshman. Damn. So at Ohio State, by the way, a lot of big dudes.

Yeah. And at this point, what, both the Jonas brothers were there, right? That's right. Both. Both Boses? Yeah. They were both there. The Boses were there at this point.

And you scan the entire field and you go, whoa, look at that fucking guy right there. And that was Chase Young. That's what I did with Kyle Pitts, right? That's what everybody did with Kyle Pitts last year. It's like, who's that guy right there? He's going to be great, huh? He's going uh who's that guy right there he's gonna be great huh he's gonna be great in Atlanta is he gonna be are they just gonna have Matt Ryan just go ahead and pick people apart and Arthur Smith's gonna do the damn thing are they

gonna potentially go in a little bit of a like a little bit of a heater here is that gonna happen now that they got a new head coach a pro football talk article came out I think this morning and Arthur Smith was quoted in it saying like hey if they were looking for a guy to rebuild like they hired the wrong guy you know like they're ready to he's ready to go with Matt Ryan I think right away well he has to by the way that is the thing he has to right and who knows if they ever thought about trading Matt Ryan and how likely that would have been with his hundred million dollars guaranteed but with salaries not mattering at all anymore how they could have restructured that. What if they do well?

I would have to eat a lot of words. You know, I've seen Matt Ryan, okay? Maybe he was hurt. Maybe he was ailed by something. I saw him come up short on a deep ball that was not that deep of a ball. Not at all. And I thought, this guy's dead. He might have been hurt then.

It might not have happened. But then you watch him in the MVP year, basically, when he goes to the Super Bowl, the MVP-like year. He might have been hurt then. It might not have happened. But then you watch him in the MVP year, basically, when he goes to the Super Bowl, the MVP-like year. He was slinging the rock. And you got Julio out there making plays. If you have Kyle Pitts, Ridley, Julio, and there's some other. Hayden Hurst is pretty good. Hayden Hurst, yeah.

They got rid of him. Oh, he's gone. But anyways, they should be able to make fucking plays and score points. And that's what you need to do in the NFL. Is Tampa Bay going to come back and be dominant all year down there in the South? I wonder. Probably. Seems like they might be pretty good.

All teams back. They won 31-9 or something like that, by the way. And they were only getting better, so it's like, okay. They won a Super Bowl 31-9. Was that score? Yeah. Great question. That's a fucking blowout.

Yeah, they slaughtered. It popped up on a commercial, I think. I saw it the other day. 31-9. They didn't score a touchdown. 31-9 was the score? 31-9, yeah. That's a fucking ass beating against the Kansas City Chiefs.

Now, there's no offensive line, but that Tampa team might really get going, AJ. I think it'll be interesting to see how, like, is it going to be a bit of a roller coaster this season? Because, obviously, we know defending champs, everyone knows, yeah, they can put it together. They already have, and they're only getting better. But last year, the question was, oh, maybe it'll take Brady a few years in this offense and this team.

But they figured out a way to peak at the right time. Now, how long can you continue to peak is the question. Now, interesting you say that because Tom Brady on the NFL draft-a-thon, he was asked by Shannon Sharp during that thing, like the 19-0 run or whatever. Would you rather that? And Tom said he would trade two Super Bowl rings for the undefeated season. So would you be willing to trade two

Super Bowl rings to have gone 19-0? Shannon Sharp says. Tom Brady says yes. I'd give up two to get that 19-0. So you know what happens every single year? Whenever the last undefeated team loses and you know what happens every single year? Whenever the last undefeated team loses, and you know the Miami Dolphins,

they pop champagne and shit. Tom Brady watches that and goes, you old motherfuckers. Oh yeah. Like Tom Brady's like, I'm done with it. I won. We should have had that. He throws a dart at Eli's pitcher. He said, yeah, exactly. Bingo. And then also got caught on his head there. But he says,

he literally says that thing. I'm tired of these old dudes celebrating. He's willing to give up two Super Bowls. Yeah, fuck it. Take them. Don't eat them. I'm going to get a couple more anyways. That 19-0, that made me realize that when he said that, he was like, what you were talking about is

how long can they stay hot and don't get too hot too early? Can you withstand and how long can you do that? And it's, you know, after a change. I feel like he wants that. I feel like he wants an undefeated team. And I would assume that he believes they can. B.A. believes they can.

Mr. Light thinks that they can. And Mike Greenberg down there, the salary guru. I would assume that there's a lot of belief that they can run the table next year. And that is wild to think about if they do go on that run. Well, don't you think it's a safe bet to say that Tom Brady has never gone into a game not expecting to win? He's never been to a game like, man, this is going to be in the big test.

In his brain, he's never been. No matter what he says to the media, in his mind, he's like, we're going to go out of here, we're going to dominate, we execute our game plan, we're going to run these these dudes off the field i feel like he takes that mentality every time and now he knows like this year hey maybe it's a possibility you believe though you know that there's some teams you're on where you're like this team this team's really good and then there's some teams where you're like okay we're gonna have to get lucky a couple times like it feels like this team not as you know good but every game you think you're going to win the strategy is put together the game plan is put together

this is how we win we have to execute we need some things to go away I understand that but I would assume when Tom looks at this Buccaneers roster he thinks to himself this is the greatest roster I've ever had around me last year when we were just learning the offense late in the season after the bye week when we changed some things and And by we, I mean I, Tom Brady, changed some things. They all feel like, what if this is what he is going for? And Gisele asked, what more do you have to prove? And he's like, well, there's these one fucking group of old folks. They celebrate.

I'm tired of it. That would be cool to be us, wouldn't it? Because imagine Tom and Gonk when they're 65 70 years old they're the first to ever do the 17 and 0 all the way through because it's no longer 16 games and they're popping bottles and celebrating that's content for days i would not think that tom would not think like hey that'd be cool to have like i would assume tom be like we we gotta go get that yeah first team to ever go 20-0. Probably the only team ever to. But you got to think they got to come to Indianapolis for week 17.

Hey, there's a showcase game happening. Who knows? It's going to be tough. What's going to be on the line? What if both teams are already in? Are they going to rest players? Tampa's like, no way in fucking hell are we doing that. I was on a team that could have went.

Could have went undefeated. Chose not to. Was not a well-liked decision in the locker room. Now, I was way too young. I didn't say a single thing. I'm just telling you what I've seen from the older folks that were in the locker room. They were not thrilled that

it was a decision made at a high level not to go get that undefeated season. Did the players have any say in it? Did they? No, no. Did you have a leadership counselor or anyone they talked to? I have no idea.

I wasn't that deep into the politics of the locker room whenever I was that age. At that age, I was just the young, stupid guy, dance clown. All right, here we go. I'll do that. But I do remember hearing conversations, you know, from all different groups of the team that I was potentially around. Like, man, we should have fucking went and got that.

We should have went and got that. We should go get that. I think it was a decision that I assume a lot of people had to agree on for it to go, including in the locker room. And I'm not just talking about Peyton or whatever. But I think that was a very, I don't know if Peyton agreed to that or not. I have no idea. I would assume that there had to be some sort of agreement that would have to come there from some of the players, including Peyton and others, and the front office to make that decision.

Like, hey, this is why we're doing it type thing. But, boy, I know it wasn't a well-liked decision. But I'd assume they thought, yeah, if we do get hurt, this is one of the best teams we've ever had. That'd be stupid to ruin it. But that's a gamble I think a lot of people wish that we would have taken. Now, we lose to Drew Brees in the end anyway, so I guess it doesn't really matter.

But, boy, at the time it was a pretty cool thing. I mean, it's a cool problem to have, I guess. But right now, especially adding an extra regular season game, now I'm going to go 17-0. So, A, you have to get so lucky when it comes to health of your team. You know you're going to have some minor dings and stuff and guys will miss some games, but it's a long season, man. You have Gronk.

You have a lot of guys, too, that you're kind of giving this designed rest to throughout the week and everything. It's like the old NBA load management situation. Part of their team is on that plan, so I think they should know, especially VA, that, hey, it's not a huge deal if we drop a few regular season games. Well, and by the way, that was the conversation So I think they should know, especially VA, that, hey, it's not a huge deal if we drop a few regular season games. Well, and by the way, that was the conversation, I think, that ended up being had by everybody,

even though they were still kind of bummed about it. It was like, yeah, we can lose because guys can't. But also, you know, they celebrate every single year. Yeah. They get a chance to celebrate every single year they have a party down there. I don't know. It's fascinating, but it seems like that is something Tom Brady is looking to do. Yep.

All right. It seems like that is something. I'm about to take a diesel today. I was going to say. I see you with that fridge. It went with the fucking tall boy. Yeah, I went right down at the bottom. I got the jackfruit.

Don't you shotgun it? Well, I shotgun the smaller ones. This one. What's the blue flavor of the tall boys i'm not sure i by the way i enjoyed the jackfruit so much i won't write back to you read the other day that helps uh lose weight i thought about drinking one but then i thought you know my heart also may explode yeah i don't think you can have this yeah stay away tony old weak ass heart tone can't have this you really have heart issues tone yeah kind of i i get chest pains if i have too much

caffeine he's got Four Loko heart. Yeah, that's probably what happened is he did abuse it in too much of a good thing. Four Loko and Adderall together. Original Four Loko, not the Mickey Mouse Four Loko. That's like six Adderall, I do believe, is the math equation. Young and dumb. But he missed an entire bomb era, too. There was an entire bomb era of

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Like, there's a chance I die doing anything, or like a heightened chance of death? Google it. Can I die for it? Pretty heightened chance. Okay, well, I'm not going to do it. Fair. Just have the Kirk Cousins mantra. If I die, I die.

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Shouts of twine for that. AJ Hawk is back, obviously. AJ, we have learned during the break that Mitt actually put a $1,000 down payment on an apartment that he was going to move into. That is that doesn't exist. Mitch has got catfish and giving a thousand dollars to some random person who I assume is a fan of this show, who has heard the boys numerous times talk about how he's potentially a little bit dumb. Potentially. And somebody took advantage of this fucking guy.

Now he's got no apartment. He's out $1,000. He got kicked off of Twitter. I mean, he's having a bad day right now, AJ. Is there anything you could say to lift this guy's spirits up? Well, I would just like for Mitt to get on the mic

and kind of walk us through exactly how this happened. Mitt, how does this happen? So you put a down payment via Venmo. You didn't see the place? It was on apartments.com. The person, they pitched to me via email that they were an overseas just like renter person. What?

I go and see the house. I like the house. I send them the money via Zelle, which is just bank payment. And then they ghosted me. And then I called the LLC that they claimed. And they're in Louisiana. Own no property in Indianapolis. And I have not heard from the guy since.

So what house did you go see? You said you went and saw a house? Yeah, it's pretty sweet. Wait, did you go inside? No, I went outside. I was just looking around. Did the email end in God bless? So hold on, hold on, hold on one second.

So did you get a God bless at the end? That is something I would like to hear the answer to quickly. Was there on their Twitter bio like saved by the Lord and Savior? It was not a God bless and there was no Twitter bio. It was just an email exchange. Okay, quick though. So do you think they sent you to some house that they just didn't know anybody was in, and that's just their game?

They just try to find empty, abandoned houses and send you to them? The thing about it is that it's listed as fully furnished. So there might be someone there. It's just random people's house. It might have been Ty's house. It sounds like it. Man. Wait, did he say he went inside?

No, I just wanted to look at it. This looks sweet. There's a family in there. You can't interrupt them probably. Oh, my God. Wait, so if you're on apartments.com, I'm sure that's legit. You have people that are fake posting on there and then just reaching out and taking advantage of people like that? A thousand bucks, huh?

Yes, AJ. Rookie mistake. I think they sent him a link to apartment.com, and he thought they were a part of it. Mick, did you talk to anybody about this? Hold on. Come on, dude. You're supposed to see a house inside. Before you do this.

Did they put an apartment.com email at the bottom? Their name was like Sam blah, blah, blah, phone number, office number, blah, blah, blah, and then at the bottom it says like apartments.com liaison or something like that, or was this actually from apartments.com? No, I found this onments.com liaison or something like that? Or was this actually from Apartments.com? No, I found this on Apartments.com and reached out to them. So Apartments.com. They've got some snakes in the ground.

Apartments.com should give you your money back. And then some because you just got embarrassed right in front of A.J. Hawk. Yeah. Wow. On a show that writes laws. Think about it. So you just showed up at the address and just looked outside. This is my house.

I love my house. I thought it was a good deal. Yeah, dude, it was a good deal. I don't know. It wasn't a thousand bucks for the house, I assume. Did you look in the windows? I did look through the windows, Tony. There was no family in there.

The furniture was all nice. I own all of this. Hey, this is my land. Holy shit. This is awesome. Mitt, how much did they say your monthly rent was going to be? It was $890. You're a full house.

Yeah. You're a big house. No, it's not a big house. It's like a one bedroom. Oh, God. Duplex, duplex. Hey, Mitt. Hey, it's a learning lesson, pal.

Yeah, boy, Mitt. Proud of you, buddy. You never know, Mitt. They might get back to you. I think you may get that house. True. I've never heard anything like that. I've never heard of anything like that at all.

I did not know the exact story behind it. Him going through apartments.com, going and seeing a fully furnished house and you can't blame the kid then i guess at this point but if there was no realtor there with him except for not going inside not dealing with it face to face you stand outside on the street and don't see the inside covid you don't know COVID protocol. I agree. Apartments.com has a whole page for avoid scams and fraud. They're covered. They know that that happens. Who the fuck's going to scam me, dude?

This place is sweet. Hey, you'll get them next time, Mitt. That 5,000 square foot house. You got it. That a boy, Mitt. It's a shame. Apartments.com owes them, though, I think. It's at least everything.

Nah, they covered their ass. If they have that whole page, like, hey, Mitt. It's a shame. Barber and Suck calm owes him, though, I think. It's at least like a thing. Nah, they covered their ass. If they have that whole page, like, hey, disclaimer, there might be some fake people on here. Yeah, I guess. They should just put Mitt's face on the home page and be like, don't be this doofus. Don't get scammed by someone. Hey, Mitt, you're okay, pal.

I would have made the same mistake. Don't worry about it. I wouldn't have, but don't worry about it. You're going to learn from this. The kid's really good at other stuff, though. He off twitter for 12 hours so not twitter told you what happened he the story i was told is probably not what it was though because i mean it takes a lot to get kicked off of twitter i'd assume he so he said he told a guy to eat a brick or something like that and i was like that's you're not gonna get banned it was mad he didn't get the shoes this morning in a raffle draw and went at somebody about it.

Classic Home Alone line, do it, eat a brick. Yeah, I mean, there's no way that is. Now he just threw in the towel and he doesn't even want to explain himself. He just walked off. The kid's having a bad day. The kid's having a bad day. He'll be all right.

He'll be all right. Yeah, if he doesn't get scammed again. But there's a massive chance that we're in the same situation next week. Mitt, there is no... By the way, your bank will never ask you to click a link in a text message either. You know what I mean? This one's probably right around the corner.

Once they hear that you fell for this one, there's probably a whole new... Oh, shit. All the scammers. They're all coming. It's good food for thought. You know, Mitt, you're not going to find a 5,000 square foot house with a pool in the backyard for $890 a month. With really nice furniture inside.

Yeah, exactly. But if you do. If you do, jump on it. Jump on it. Okay, let's talk about some other things that have happened here in the sports world. Tom Brady helped the Buccaneers have a 1,200% year-over-year increase in team sales from 2019 to 2020. They went from number 29 on the list of fanatics for merch and everything that is sold up to number one in one year.

It's the biggest single-year increase for any NFL team in fanatics history. It is awesome that Tampa Bay not only got Tom, they get Gronk, AB, a Super Bowl. It was a perfect storm for Tampa Bay to kind of take over, and they hit. And the fact that Bruce Arians and Jason Light were able to bring Tom Brady to Tampa, none of us could have expected. And now that he's there, it's almost like, yeah, it was perfect for this entire thing. Retired Tom down there in Tampa winning Super Bowls, building a super team.

The Super Bowl is their first time ever a home team has won in their own stadium. There's another little check on the Tom Brady thing. Good for Tampa Bay, good for Tom, and good for the Buccaneers just kind of cashing in on the moment and actually hitting a home run as opposed to letting it slip by. You talk about the power of a superstar

like Tom Brady and what he can do. I think what also helped is the it was unexpected. Even the coaching staff didn't be asay. Like, he looked like, hey, we can get Tom Brady. We better get after this dude. And I think the fans thought the same thing. They probably thought, hey, we're probably not in the running for him.

And then, by the way, not only is Tom coming, Gronk's coming, A.B. will be here. Like, we have studs and we won the Super Bowl. That's the biggest thing that helped propel them into all that money. Hey, a good way to make money in the NFL is to win. Yep. I think Robert Kraft saw that last year. Robert Kraft saw that last year now with the COVID and everything like that.

But merch sales were probably down. I'm assuming he was getting reports where he was like, everything's down, huh? What the hell? It's because we're losing. This is it. All right, spend all the money. Listen, spend all the money that we have to spend. And let's get back to winning because that is good business,

which is interesting because Jerry Jones, you know, he has not won the Super Bowl in so long, and he feels like he's super businessman. It is easy. A lot of people call fans bandwagon fans or fair weather fans or whatever. I'll tell you what, it's a lot more accessible, and it's a lot easier for people to cheer for a team whenever they're winning. I mean, you reschedule things things you want to wear jerseys you want to wear t-shirts

maybe you were a fan of the team the entire time but boy a team can make it a lot easier for you to be a better fan uh just by winning and i think obviously tampa understands that at this point well don't you think fan bases are either like okay we're all in we're we're so used to winning that yeah if we lose one game we're upset or you're just a fan base that doesn't expect to win and you're just everyone commiserating in their tears it's like hey we're terrible we suck oh if we win a game we're gonna sarcastically cheer but they they come together over their sadness and disappointment for their team yeah but i don't think there's as many like wear your jersey to work days or to school days.

Yeah. I mean, people get embarrassed. Well, that's all just one big hustle to sell merch, though. I mean, it's awesome to watch it happen. Hey, Friday's going to be everybody in the city wear your Colts gear day. Ooh. It's like, okay, everybody in the city needs to go buy Colts gear. Yeah.

Okay, by the way, we do look forward to the day one day whenever we just say, okay, look, everybody in the state of Indiana, it is wear your merch day Tuesday. Everybody just go ahead and do that. That would be great. Our store would not be. We would fuck it up. People would attempt to do it. They wouldn't be able to figure it out.

But merch sales are, I assume, a pretty massive part. I think it's like 50-some percent or 60 percent, maybe. I forget the number now that I'm trying to guess the exact percentage that the concessions and game day, I would assume game day operations is. Merch is probably something pretty high up there in a lot of these businesses. And I think they have a, don't 31 of the teams have like some sort of profit share thing? They got going with merch, and then the Cowboys have their own thing. I think, if I understand the back end right, AJ, do you know anything about that? There's some kind of marketing deal worked out to where Jerry somehow negotiated his way out of it. He's the only team that gets to keep all of his stuff in-house.

Listen, y'all fuckers can sell, okay? I'll sell my own. That's right. I'm going to sell my own shit, all right? And I'll tell you what. If your team's going to stink and you're not going to sell any sell any shit i ain't gonna see a lack of profit hell no because that's what that 31 thing is you know the the the strength of the pack is the strength of its weakest member especially whenever your profit sharing and everything like that so some cities that maybe

don't have as active as a merch business because their team isn't winning as much so people aren't as apt to go ahead and buy things that money's all kind of getting shared i do believe and then jerry's like it don't matter hey we are going to sell shit here okay we're going to do that get the hell out and i think a lot of people have said in the business world it was like the nfl would have never lasted if there was 32 jerry joneses okay because of the way owners have had to come together in those meetings and i heard say he was talking about in his 70s and 80s that he was sitting in they got a little spirited i think now it's a lot more of a uh congregated effort it's like hey we're all in this thing together but merch sales are good for everybody i'd assume well especially when you have

those like complexes around stadiums where it's like hey let's go there five hours before hang out for a few hours and then go to the game it's like at some point in those five hours, you're going to say, fuck it, let's go buy a jersey. Let's go buy some team hats or some bullshit. Patriot Town up there. A casino is going to be there. A whole shopping district. A movie theater.

I think the Packers were somewhat inspired by that and what they're doing around their stadium. The same thing the Patriots are. At Title Town, by the way, I believe that's where they have that big sled. They have a big hill they they have like outdoor bars and stuff to embrace the cold i think because everybody there is wearing an insane amount because they're going into lambo then there's a strip of bars and everything and it's really the only thing almost i don't want to say in the area but it really is and people flock to green bay the diehard packers fans the owners from

out of state and they come and it's just like, hey, here's your entire weekend if you come. Here's the museum and the shop you can go to on Saturday. Here's game day experience on Sunday. You go to the game. Here's after the game. And then by the way, when you fly out, see you later. It's like that is what people in NFL teams are able to do, which by the way, is brilliant business. I'd assume this is what Tom was talking about with the Tampa Tom Town whenever he was in that meeting with Bill Gates who just got divorced by the way. Tease and peace.

Moment of silence for their marriage. Moment's gone. They said they're going to go in their new life but still do all their philanthropy. They've donated up to $1 billion already for COVID relief. It's a crank you Bill. It'd be alright Bill. Well same with her by the way. their philanthropy. They've donated up to $1 billion already for COVID relief. Oh, no. Thank you, Bill.

You'll be all right, Bill. Well, same with her, by the way. Her name is Melinda. Melinda. Thank you, Melinda. But anyways, he was meeting with Bill and I assume Melinda was there,

by the way, with the way they talked. I guess she was pretty prominent role in a lot of these decisions. Cash at the hip. That's what they're saying. Congrats to both of them,

by the way. Congrats, Lee. Well, I don't like you guys got divorced. Take back the clap on that. We're talking about life. Congrats on the life. Congrats on the life. Not this moment, but the overall.

They may be happier, you know, going their separate ways. It might be better for them. It is. They said, yeah, so congrats to them. Are they the ones that put the clock in the mind? That was Bezos. Never mind. Anyways, congratulations.

He also got divorced. Yeah, well well he got divorced as well congrats to them yeah i saw what bezos did he said let me get back out there let me hit them streets okay so congrats to everybody who is involved that's happy and i'm sorry hitting the streets yeah yeah and i'm sorry for anybody that isn't happy about what happened we wish your life would have been would have more happiness in it whatever the the case is. But with that being said, it was Tom, Bill, Jeter, and then the owner of the Tampa Bay. And then the lingering, however that conversation got out,

whether it was one of their PR teams or maybe a server came over, a waiter came over and overheard some things. They said they were talking about Tom doing real estate down there. If he builds a Tampa Bay Buccaneers title type situation down there, a mall, a restaurant area, I don't even know if it's possible. We've been to Tampa now three times. I have no idea where I'm at in that situation. Everything's on top of each other.

It is impossible to get there. I don't even know if this would be possible. But what if that's what he's thinking? And then he might have a trillion dollars by the time this whole thing's done. He might own the damn Buccaneers at the end of the day. Tom might, huh? He can do whatever he wants. I think tom can pretty much do whatever he wants down there in tampa but he i'd be maybe worried opening up a whole tam or uh tampa bay whatever tb12 situation because tom knows hey why i'm here yeah this place is going to be it's going to be rocking but what happens if he leaves and they're not good anymore you just

listen people are still going to want to live that TB12 lifestyle. Remember the good old days when Tom was here? Well, how about pliability? We can do it just like Tom did. There's a lot to market if Tom's in town or not in town. Have you had that avocado ice cream? That'll fill the streets, pal. Get the fuck

out of here. Who do you think got an area around any stadium that's going to flourish? It's going to go. Because you know why? The NFL is going to go. Correct. Yeah. So if the NFL goes,

ipso facto, it goes. The casino by the stadium is a weapon, though. Genius. I mean, that is... Yes, it is. That is a weapon. By the way, here in Indy,

they could do stuff like that. There is room to add on. Plenty. Plenty. Lots of room. If Jim Irsay wanted to, there is a lot of room to just kind of create his own thing.

Shop they have. I should do that. How much money you think it takes to buy an NFL team? How much money do I need to get a loan out to buy an NFL team? A majority stake of an NFL team? Half a billion. You have no idea.

Maybe a half a bill down payment that's what i'm saying to get the loan though to get the loan weird is yeah to get the loan what's weird is how they buy these like multi-billion dollar purchases aren't a lot of them in like their stock share and companies and then they work it out a bunch of different ways jim said yesterday just 80 million dollars and he's here i guess he said they tell me I can get the plane. I watched his interview back yesterday. There was a couple things in there that I was like, this dude's the fucking coolest guy on earth.

I don't see it. They tell me that the planes are... Dude, they had to change the laws because he was hopping in his helicopter when he would wake up in the morning, whatever, 3.30, 4 o'clock, or if he was still up, hopping his hopping in his helicopter when he would wake up in the morning, whatever, 3, 34 o'clock or if he was still up, hopping his helicopter in his backyard to go to an airport, and he would fly to like Puerto Rico or the Dominican Republic or California or something like that,

and then he would fly back for practice the next day. Damn. He's awesome. That guy is awesome. What were you going to say, though, Dave? The lowest valuation for a team is the Cincinnati Bengals at $2 billion. You just said that on me, by the way. No, no, Forbes actually said that.

Oh, okay. Billy Forbes, dude. Hey, Bill Forbes doesn't fuck around when he's looking into people's bank accounts. He's very snoopy, by the way. The bills and lines are very, very close. I mean, there's a $100,000 gap between the Cincinnati Bengals and Detroit Lions. What are the Bills? $2.05 billion.

Okay, so that's where you'd want to go if you were going to buy a team, right? And I think that has been the team that has been talked about. I think Jon Bon Jovi was getting involved in that team. For a while there, yeah. Magula's bought them a couple years ago. They have a lot of money. And they will not sell this team. I doubt it, because they just got them a couple years ago.

The Bengals is actually the only team that didn't go up in percentage. At what point do you think these bazillionaires... You didn't say that. Forbes did. Forbes said it. Forbes said it. This is not us saying it, okay? They don't have an indoor practice facility.

AJ, at what point do you think the mega-rich people start thinking, like, okay, I'm going to gear up to get an NFL team? At what point do you think that is? Well, I would imagine on the way, like when these billionaires are on their way to becoming billionaires and they start to multiply their money, they're looking around. Don't you think for a lot of the owners now, it was probably like a pipe dream when they were younger. But I wonder when that moment hits where they're like, wait, I can honestly, I can seriously look at buying majority stake in an NFL team.

How much do you have to have when you start thinking that's a possibility? I don't know. That's what I'm wondering. And how much money does it take to get a loan? And who gives those loans? There's probably just one or two banks that gives those loans. You go to any of them. You go to fucking Chase.

Chase Bank. Fucking Wells Fargo. Or my key. I don't buy a key bank. Key bank made over here. I do not know if Key Bank could pull off a... You don't think so?

Imagine you walking across the street asking for a billion dollars. Not one. You need a couple. You need a few billion. We need six billion dollars. We've got to operate day to day, too. Key Bank's revenue was 6.4 billion in 2019.

So you need all of Key Bank's money. Just from that year. Yes. They've got a lotBank's money just from that year yes they got a lot of people's money in there though I don't really fully understand how banks

operate either like you have my money I try to get my money you tell me I can only take so much of my money fuck you I have a real problem with that

if this is correct we're trying to protect you how are you sure thanks it's my money get the fuck out of the way please alright you are just a

a vault here please stop with your bullshit. It'd be great. Key Bank has $170.3 billion in assets. So we can definitely walk right across the street. Yeah, we should go over there right now. They have that much over there? Holy shit.

Just that one right there. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah, unsuspecting. That's why they got that security guard outside. Yeah, always. Look out. He's got good dazer.

He's got good dine. He's got good dine. He knows. Yeah. Anyways, that'd be awesome, wouldn't it? To have enough money to put down to get a $5 billion thing like, hey, I need to operate this thing. And by the way, the NFL, we're going to make this money back.

Like this money's coming back or whatever. It's just insane to think about. It's the pinnacle of this company owning and running an NFL team. I think so. Yeah, I think so. That is where the goal has firmly been placed. Hey, what if, don't you think, is it a possibility, Pat, where Melinda Gates was holding Bill back

and Big Bill's going to go buy an NFL team now? Well, or maybe reversed. Bill's been holding Melinda back, you're right. Yeah, she might be a big sports fan, and he's like, we don't want to talk about Madison. She's the next Sheila Ford Ham. By the way, I thought she handled that draft incredibly well.

MCDC is screaming as loud as he can, a foot and a half away from her on the phone. And she's just like, hey, excited to have you. And as soon as she hangs up, she's like, whoo! Hey, it's a whole new... Motor City Dan Campbell has been saying the reason why we're going to win is because it's Sheila whole new. Hey, Motor City Dan Campbell has been saying, like,

the reason why we're going to win is because it's Sheila Ford Hemp or whatever. Like, that's literally what he. You got to feel good in Detroit, huh? Same family, new mind, though. I've never been this excited for a Detroit Lions run here. We're going to give Motor City Dan Campbell a year. Give him a year. Let him coach for a little bit.

Get used to it. After that, we're off and running because Rogers will be out of the division. That's right. So that's a prediction from Detroit there. One more year and then Rodgers is gone, which is fascinating. But did you see the Ford Bronco Sports? I did, Pat. I saw it the day you mentioned it.

Do you think anything good is coming out of Ford? That Ford Bronco Sports, stop. Who's idea was that? Shield for him. Holy shit. Holy shit. Who was that, by the way,. Who's that dude? Shield for him. Holy shit. Holy shit. Who was that, by the way, that gave us that information? Was that Motor City Dan Campbell there?

Well, yeah. I mean, he knows less than Shield for him. Fuck. I mean, I don't know if we're there yet. I don't know if we're there yet. Ty just took quite a swing at MCDC. I'm excited for during the season for MCDC interviews in this room. Yeah, I think so too.

Hey, we should – I don't know. What happened this weekend, Coach? This year, I don't know if now is the time to pitch to him like, hey, can we have a weekly conversation with you through the season? We want to go through your first year as a head coach together. I assume MCDC is going to be eating so much film. Oh, yeah. He will not have time to talk.

I just can't wait for that first win. That first win, his reaction is going to be eating so much film. He will not have time to talk. I just can't wait for that first win. That first win, his reaction is going to be unbelievable. Week 15. Press conference? Oh, it's going to be so good. So there's still four weeks left. So they're going to get hot late, you're saying. Oh, yeah.

Hey, 3-14. Why not? Hey, by the way, way to do the 17-game season right there. You have to. It's happening. But, Connor, to your point, this is all your guy's fault, Matt Patricia. Yeah, he had to okay the Matt Jones pick. Did you see that, AJ, the clip from the Patriots' war room?

Hey, Matt, you okay with this, Bill says? And Matt's like, yeah, I'll go with me, pal. Go ahead and send it. I just wanted to know, like, what if Matt says no? What happens? All right. Get the fuck out. Take the D lineman. Let's trade the pick. Yeah. Let's trade the pick. What if Matt says no? What happens? Get the fuck out.

Let's trade the pick. If someone did say no right there, I'm like, it's a little too late now, right guys? We've got to pick him anyway. Even if you have an issue, aren't we running out of time? I would absolutely love that. Here we go. You're on the New York Post, AJ.

This is what we've been talking about. New York Post is reporting that there's 0% chance Aaron Rodgers retires former Packers teammate A.J. Hawk. That's what we've been talking about. That's what we've been talking about. Sports Emmys, baby. Is that how this happens? You get sports Emmys for stuff like this?

Yeah, dude. Look at you with your helmet on, by the way. Oh, wow. Tiger pose. Tiger pose. Look at you modeling, dude. Of course, Drake. Usually when I see pictures of you in your uniform, you're Damn. Tiger pose. Tiger pose. Look at you modeling, dude. What? Core strike.

Usually when I see pictures of you in your uniform, you're flipping off the camera. Look at this one giving that GQ look. Yeah. Look at you, dude. Short hair. Short hair? Yeah, what happened? I cut my hair.

Why? What? It was longer. I cut it short. Why'd you do that? Because I wanted to. That is a haircut, though. Yeah. What you had there great explanation

look at the photo they pick of aaron by the way a little bit of a disgust yeah a little distaste yeah a little laissez-faire we we and then aj striking a pose yeah aj did you send them the photo to use for this article please make use the one that makes me look like Tarzan while chiseled. Jesus Christ. Hey, who do you think Bill Gates' first girlfriend is going to be? So he did send a photo.

Let's get out of here. Let's get out of here. We got to get to a break. Just curious. What if he buys a team and he shows up with Lizzo on the sidelines? Oh, that would be awesome.

Revenge body, Bill Gates. Yes. Bounce back body Bill Gates bounce back Bill Gates pulls up with Lizzo owning the Vikings sure there's gonna be some conspiracy theories over there too that's you're talking about you did that on purpose you, what are you doing, dude? That's your fault. You did that on purpose, you asshole. Okay, are you the one scamming Mitt too? Yes. I could never do that to poor Mitt. Honestly, that's not that bad.

I understand how you felt for that. Me too. I agree. Departments.com. We agree. Both sides can be right and wrong at the same time. Departments.com. 1,000% is on him.

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We just saw an article that was posted onto the internet, immediately called somebody that we know that would know about what is happening in the article. Somebody that we know that would know about what is happening in the article. Ladies and gentlemen, to talk about Ohio sports betting being very close, it seems like. Ladies and gentlemen, Congressman Anthony Gonzalez. Gonzo, what's up, dude? Not much. Good to be with you guys again.

Can you hear me? I'm in the airport, so I got to have this mask on. No, no, you're being safe. You're being smart. Okay, yeah, we can hear you. Let's get to it. Gonzo, you spoke to us just a few weeks ago when you came in and said, hey, this name image likeness bill, we're trying to pass it. And then we also asked you about other happenings in government because we don't know anything about that. Sports Stitch, not a government person, just Sports Stitch. And you talked about how you actually said Ohio is going to get sports gambling done.

It's going to get done or whatever. Now there's an article. There's a bill being taken to the floor over there. Is this happening right now? Is it happening in Ohio, Gonzo? It's being introduced, which means we still got a little bit of a ways to go. But I do think it's fair to say that you're the inspiring uh component to this i really believe that so i think i think the pat mcafee show can take some credit for whatever happens in ohio going forward

all right i'll do one of those but now we move on so with this bill being put into and you're saying that potentially because our reaction was a positive one and they didn't know and then the people that of ohio that caught on to it were like, yes, this is awesome. This is awesome. And that potentially gave them like a focus group. That's what you're alluding to, I assume? I think so. So, look, like, you know, we respond to what we're hearing from our constituents and from people.

And, again, I'm not in the statehouse, so I can't say for sure, you know, what the timing was and all that. But when you do a big radio hit and you get some attention on a subject, lawmakers tend to act. Let's go! We did it! Let's go! Hey, we will overreact to good shit all the time. Anything you want to come pitch, that's awesome. We will definitely give a full-on embrace to good shit all the time. Uh-huh. Hey, let's go. Anything you want to come, you know, pitch, that's awesome. We will definitely give a full-on embrace because we're all about it. So thank you for giving us that opportunity because we are excited for the people of Ohio.

Now, AJ, you know, AJ is not going to be able to do it with his fingers. We've all seen it. But when Fandle gets over there, the app is so convenient, it's easy, and we're fucking giving away money basically over there. Now, Gonzo can't say that he's he's obviously not represented by fandle but sports gambling getting legalized is awesome for the state of ohio i'm pumped to be a small part of it if that is the case digs has a question for you gonzo before your flight we appreciate you for your time representative tone um since you just said that we're responsible for sports gambling

in ohio does that mean that legally all of the sports books then in Ohio have to pay us a percentage of their profits? Fascinating business. Yeah, I mean, that's only fair, right? That's legal. We'll write up the bill. We'll write up the bill. We just need you to present it.

We appreciate you. Hey, whenever you say a little bit of ways to go, what is that actual? So, again, like this is in the statehouse. So I'm at the federal level. So I can't tell you exactly. But if it's in the introduction phase, it means it probably has to go through committee. Then it has to be debated. Then it has to pass the Senate and the House.

So, you know, it could be multiple months. You know, we shouldn't celebrate quite yet. But I did think it was at least coincidental that the week after coming on the show, you know, all of a sudden the bill's introduced. So I give you partial credit for sure on this one. Gonzo, you're the best. Ladies and gentlemen, Anthony Gansalian.

Thank you, Congressman. Safe travels. Safe travels. Okay. That's huge. I mean, under a year is good. Listen, it's good that they're even introducing a bill. I thought he was going to say at least over a year.

Yeah, because remember, we talked about dope, and he was like, about two years out. It's a decade away. Two years. Fast track. That's awesome, man. If we were a part of that, cool. If we weren't, doesn't matter.

Ohio getting legalized sports gambling is huge, AJ. Well, it's gigantic. But to me, I don't understand why it's not there already. Like, I don't get why you can't play on your phone, like on an app. Well, what you don't understand is that you've got to introduce a bill. Then it's got to get through this human. Then it's got to get through a committee. Then it's got to get through the Senate, the Congress floors.

Then it has to get okay. That's what you don't understand about America, pal. And that's maybe, when we have a congressman who's probably going to be president someday speaking, let's go ahead and listen up to that. Hey, I am listening. That's what I'm wondering. I just don't understand. How come they can't just stamp it?

How come we can't just stamp it? This one's dope. Bang. Here we go. Let's do it. Well, then they'll abuse the power and they'll do that with something that's also terrible it's like oh fucking a can we not have just a little bit of a hey this is good i i bang pow off here we go all right why can't we do more lobbyists no that's the problem i think is actually the lobbyist grease a couple more palms nah that's what they're doing. Might be an age gap, too.

You're right, AJ. Like, listen, I was trying to tell you you're stupid for not knowing how government works, but why hasn't it been fixed? Why hasn't it been changed? No, I'm saying, who is it? The online gambling thing. So just the brick-and-mortar casinos that are there, they don't want online because then they think people will not come into their casino?

Bingo. In Chicago, Illinois, actually, not just Chicago, but Illinois, they allowed mobile sports gambling, and you were able to download it on your phone, and then they actually shut that off, and they're like, nah, we need people to come into the casino to sign up for the mobile gambling. But the casinos in Ohio, you guys have tables, right? Yeah, there's tables.

Live dealer? Mm-hmm. Yeah. Hmm. Oh, Cleveland. Yeah, we fucking love Yep. Hmm. Oh, Cleveland. Yeah, we fucking love Cleveland. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

It's awesome. So is there a sports book? Is there sports books in Ohio? No. No sports gambling at all? No. That seems like that would just be a natural fit. It doesn't make any sense.

So that's probably where I'd set it first. I'm on sports gambling books, and then they'll decide who's going to get the mobile. Yep. So we're probably, what, midway through football season away maybe, if that's going to have to get all those deals done as well. Yeah, because New York already passed theirs and said they're going forward with it, and they said they hope to have it up and running for football season. Is that brick and mortar or is that mobile?

Mobile, I believe. So I would assume brick and mortar comes first, and then they'll probably. But it shouldn't, by the way, because the brick and mortar is already built on the phone in the mobile sports, but they're already built. Boom, boom, boom. It's just, you're right, though, AJ, and we're sports stooges, so we have to go ahead and make sure we clear that up and clarify that.

But shouldn't it, should we not be at a time of potential stamp right through? Kids can test up a grade, right? Yeah. Can't Bills just fucking go ahead and just, yep, here we go. Let's go ahead and fast track this one. Let's go ahead and get this one. Seems smart. Seems smart.

It benefits everybody so much. It's just, well, where's the downfall? Is there an HOV lane in government? Maybe a fast pass. That's what they need. A super fast pass. Yeah. That one's better than a fast pass.

Yeah, I've heard. It's a little bit more money from what I've been told, but I don't know how to get through Disney World without it. I have no idea how you would. Let's get some phone calls. That's a big deal, Ohio from what I've been told, but I don't know how to get through Disney World without it. I have no idea how you would. Let's get some phone calls. That's a big deal, Ohio. Let's go. Here we go, Ohio.

Ohio. Cleveland's casino was very nice. Ohio sports betting is on its way. The bill won't be perfect on introduction, he said, but will be used as a jumping-off point for hearings and will hopefully answer some questions for interested parties in the state. This information comes a week after Skewring's fellow lawmaker rep, Anthony Gonzalez, made an appearance on the Pat McShown Express.

Oh, shit. Okay, so we really are. I thought Gonzo was trolling on the Pat McShown Express's optimism that sports betting was inevitable for Ohio. They're working on it. It's politics. There's debate as to who should government, whether it should be lottery commissions or the gaming,

it should be the gaming commission. If we're, if we do have a little bit of weight in this, I, I won't weigh into that, but as soon as they figure that out, we'll have it. Ohio's going to get it done.

It's just a matter of time. He said on the show. And then we're in there. There you go. Wow. What? Yeah. What?

Hell yeah. What? What do you want from me, dude? Okay, I'm changing laws. What do you want? Hey, what do you want to work on next? What do you want to get passed through next? The two-foot driving, probably.

Yeah. Let's ban that in Ohio. Yeah. Can that be in the same bill? Because when I drive back to Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, and I have to drive through Ohio, I would very much like to not know that, you know, who's driving next to me isn't

driving with both their fucking feet on the ground. Better rest stops, too. In Ohio? Yeah, we need a little bit more. You do frequent rest stops a lot, so I guess we can try to work on that. That was Diggs. That was for Diggs. I was talking to my constituents. Because it's just, the rest stops in Ohio only have the

vending machines. I need like an Annie Ann's, maybe some fast food in there. Bingo. Bingo. We want a mall. We want a mall. Give us Sparrow pizza in there right now. Dude. China Walk. Hey, there's a rest stop in Pennsylvania.

Which one's that? There's a rest stop in Pennsylvania that is unbelievable. Oh my god. It's a full mall cafeteria. Oh, it's awesome. Whole food court. Illinois has got a couple of those too. The Oasis.

You're going to kill me for forgetting this. Oh, yeah, good Oasis. And you know, that's one of those ones where you've got to pull off and go over the highway to it. Oh, yeah. We're talking Breezewood? Thank you. Yeah, I think it's Breezewood. It is.

Hey, listen. If you stop through Breezewood, you're going to gain a few LBs, dude. A lot of opportunity there in Breezewood. Can't thank you enough for choosing to listen to the show. The fact that you allow us to spend time with you every single day, we are eternally grateful for. We will try not to abuse this privilege by putting out shitty shows today. I don't know how you feel. Hopefully you thought it was at least above average.

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