The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 411 - The Jaguars Are Signing Tim Tebow?! Adam Thielen, Shams Charania, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: May 10, 2021

On today's show, Pat and the boys chat about Smackdown on Friday night and how Pat shaved for the first time in a very long time, what movies and documentaries he watched this weekend, and everything that is going on in the sports world currently. Later, 2x Pro Bowler, All-Pro, and friend of the program, Adam Thielen joins the show to chat about making waves with his recent comments about Lambeau Field, what he's heard about when they might be going back to work at the facility, what he's been doing in the offseason, and how his golf game currently is (18:18-36:17). Pat and AJ Hawk also chat about a variety of different things including the whole Adam Thielen situation, Bob Baffert allegedly being a cheating scumbag, players changing their jersey numbers, the Jaguars zeroing in on signing Tim Tebow to play TE, and much more (38:34-1:28:26). Later, Pat and AJ are joined by NBA Insider for The Athletic and Stadium, Shams Charania, to break down everything we need to know about the NBA as we head into the playoffs including when LeBron is coming back, what the status of the Nets is, if people are still pissed about the play-in game, and more (1:29:45-1:43:48). Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow and listen every day on Mad Dog Radio, Sirius XM Channel 82. We appreciate you all for listening, come and laugh with us, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello, it is Monday, May 10th, 2021. Can't thank you enough for choosing to listen to this show. I know there's a lot of shit that could penetrate your ear holes. The fact you allow us to do so, we are eternally grateful for. We have Adam Thielen on, okay? He talked massive amounts of shit. Feels like he actually kind of got caught up a little bit in some bullshit, but he's a great conversation as always. Same with Sean Sharania, AJ the the boys let's have a monday shall we and remember if you like this show please be a friend tell a friend if not just act like it never ever happened cheers we'll see you on the other side i look like i'm 12 all right oh i don't know about that it is why it's worth a big change well anything distract from my face you know this is an interesting moment here.

I have not shaved my face my entire life, basically. Since I had a little bit of scruff on my face, probably 16, maybe 15. I was a late grower. You know, the facial hair does not come in that strong. Ever since I had some, I always kept some on. Now, my face not the best so anytime you keep a little scruff on there it at least you know it became like my look now every once in a while i'd use uh something that wasn't the lawnmower oh man or like uh where

you can have the and i would mess up and i would have to like you know maybe like down to a one or something like that but i always had something on friday to commit to a bit to commit to a bit uh being vince mcmahon on friday night smackdown throwback edition i was bullied into shaving my face okay michael cole all right michael cole was one of the leaders all right of that bullying uh don't be a bully. Be a star is what I thought. And Michael Cole goes, you could really commit here and shave your face or whatever. Because he had an awesome look going as well, which didn't make it to air. The only thing that made it to air was the denim.

He had frosted tips. Oh, man. I mean, he committed to 1999 Michael Cole. And by the way, as a lifelong fan of the WWE, whenever he walked over to me with his frosted tips in, I was like, oh, my God. You're back. You look exactly like you used to look.

It was awesome for the thrift. And then, you know, he starts talking. Maybe you should, you know, because you're Vince here. They got the wig for you. It was too small for my head. It felt like my forehead was in a rear naked show the entire time. But they had the thing on, you know, had the suit, you know, had the tie, did the whole thing.

Wore some dress shoes for the first time. Got blisters on the back of my left heel and my pinky toe on my right side. Ferragamo, shout out. Some Italian tried to take me down from my feet during the day. But I was like, you know what? You're right. I guess I should. A lot of people on WWE, they were like, hey, got to do it.

This is awesome. We remember this. You did this, you know, for the character, for the bit. You did it. You did it. I'm like, yeah, I did it. So I shave it. I immediately look terrible.

OK? Have to go get some more makeup on. Then we're outside. We're shooting a bunch of shit all right everybody got a chance i think on social media to see me coming out of my bentley all right that out of my bed yours my old benjamin bentley made the trip down from uh indiana to florida for this particular maybe setup i get out of there i do an entire you know smackdown you know an entire vince mcmahon thing And immediately following And I couldn't

I'm not saying like Immediately as a joke But I'm saying As soon as I Walked off of that screen Like literally Right as soon as I get To the other camera

We go back How do we feel about it Let's watch it Foxy gets a text From somebody that works With WWE They're like Hang tight or something

Like that So WWE people Make that sound I go Oh Vince is coming. Hey, let's go. No, that's not the case. They come out, everything's been canceled.

No. No. All right. So I walk back into the building. All right. At this point, everybody who was, you know, motivating me to shave my face, they had heard about what had happened,

about the wig being gone and the whole thing, you know. And you can wear the suit, but nothing else really. We're not doing it. As soon as I get back in there, everybody's like, sorry, man. So sorry. That's all. Sorry to hear. We heard.

We heard. Sorry. So sorry. It'll grow back. It'll grow back. This is four days. Nothing. You see that?

Nothing. This might grow back by the time I'm 40. That last one took 34 years. You know what? That beard was older than Jesus fucking Christ. Jesus. Okay? Jesus lived to 33.

This thing's never coming back. I look like I'm 12. It is a weird thing to see. My mom's pumped. I bet. My mom and I, you know, had a conversation yesterday. Happy Mother's Day, by the way. I hope everybody celebrated.

We had a conversation. She's like, first time I've seen my baby's face in like ever, basically. She was like, you look very young. You look handsome. My mom loved it. My wife, very positive. It's going to grow back, babe.

Whatever you want. You look good. This whole thing. Me, I look in the mirror. I'm like, you fucking turtle looking son of a bitch. You know,

this morning, I almost tried to put mascara on it. I was thinking about doing Hollywood Hulk Hogan. You know what I mean? I watched Booker T's doc last night. Got a chance to see Hollywood Hulk Hogan again. The little throwback to WCW days. I was thinking about doing Hollywood Hulk Hogan. You know what I mean? I watched Booker T's doc last night, got a chance to see Hollywood Hulk Hogan again. The little throwback to the WCW days.

I was like, oh, I think I have that amount. Like, I could roll some paint on this thing. I think it would catch on to the little, little tiny thing. But I probably don't have a beard for another two to three weeks. It's going to be a long time coming. I apologize for that. The boys are here at Boston Corner. If I could grow a mustache like you have right there,

I would do it immediately. The thing about mine is it will never come back, so I am very envious of you, but you look great as usual. I mean, by football season, you'll at least have a little bit more stubble. There is something on the other side of the horizon. You'll get there. Plus, you can spin into Mother's Day.

You did it for your mom. But I didn't. Listen, I did it for Vince McMahon. I I didn't. I did it. I did it for Vince McMahon. I did it to be Vince McMahon or whatever, which. I was going to be Vince on Vince's show in front of Vince. Right. So that is I was watching the film. I mean, I was not enough.

I didn't think I did enough research before Friday. But once I got to Friday Friday it started to hit me I'm like I'm Vince McMahon on Vince's show in front of Vince McMahon and Vince does not like that type of shit like Vince does not he does not like any acknowledgement he does not like he does not like to be thanked by people he does not like to be mentioned by people he does not like to be anything and I'm gonna be coming out like you are fire like i'm gonna be doing so i like there was a good like you know i had a moment with myself where i was like fuck okay this could go real bad i guess like you know this could go so i started watching videos okay i was trying to get it down the walk you know which everybody mocks everything

like i i figured that out with the the rhythm of his head too he has a little dilo brown which nobody really taught not as much as dilo when he came out but when he would walk his head would go back and forth i mean i did like real research i was excited yeah i thought there was a chance we're gonna do something magical and then all of a sudden you know it's over the ass sorry guys hey you're gonna have to go redo your makeup too because they did the makeup as if you know you still had the wig and the thing. And your hair is probably going to have to get. And we only got 42 minutes until the show starts. You better hurry.

Get on it. Go ahead and get on it. But, hey, I understand. I respect it. I appreciate it. Wish I didn't shave. And while shaving, I wish we would have stopped at the mustache or the handlebar or even the chops. But guess what?

Everything had to happen within three minutes because we had to go film something. gonna go and film something see you later yeah it's a bad day it all got shut down in three minutes is there any chance uh evan fox he's gonna be able to release the tapes of you know what was missed possibly the basement tapes if we have we have a lot of stuff it's good by the way not only foxy wwe was following me around okay because that clip they they posted was awesome and it feels like that was the tip ofy, WWE was following me around. Yeah, because that clip they posted was awesome, and it feels like that was the tip of the iceberg. They were following me around all day to create, I think, a documentary of me becoming Vince McMahon. Oh, man.

That's real. Even while I was putting the suit on, they even had the shot of the skin. As I was tightening the thing, they had the entire thing. As the wig was going on, they were on the makeup, the whole thing. I mean, there is me walking around the arena. Oh, my God. There's so much. So the vlog, probably on Wednesday, we'll have some of it.

I don't know what will be left for maybe Doc down the road as opposed to right now. But, I mean, it should be shown pretty well. The depths that we want to make this thing happen. And then it immediately, immediately getting flipped on its head and being like, all right, well, it would have been cool. Maybe next time. Maybe next time we'll do it. And we'll just go ahead and jot this one in the back as, like, learning experience. This is a learning experience.

But now I have to deal with it for at least three, four weeks. Yeah, well, that's what my next question was going to be. Is there tape on who exactly pressured you into shaving your face? Because you can start making the list here. It's very obviously Michael Cole. Did you ask him to shave the soul patch? He should at least have to do that. Michael Cole did commit.

I mean, listen. Michael Cole. He was all in as well. Yes. Michael Cole, since the beginning of his career at the WWE, has fully committed to everything. There was times there where he was The Rock's literal punching

bag for three, four weeks. But without Michael Cole, that scene can't happen. Michael Cole has committed to the WWE fully at all times. He just, you know, he was wondering if I was going to do the same. Because I am

Vincent Kennedy McMahon am Vincent Kennedy McMahon on Vincent Kennedy McMahon's show while Vincent Kennedy McMahon is watching. You know, it just seemed like... Got to commit to the bit. And by the way, he wasn't the only one. Okay, there was others. But it did feel like,

felt like Michael Cole was potentially at the beginning of like, you know, this could be epic if we... And by the way, there was nobody else in that building more excited than Michael Cole about me being Vince McMahon. He's the only one who really got to hear any of it because we're doing a lot of, you know, planning and setup. He was very excited for it.

So I think when he had to tell me afterwards that it was over, he like, he was, he was like, I am, you know, like this is, we'll keep it different down the road. I'm like, Hey, listen, not your fault. I understand. Let's move on. That's the way it goes. Okay. If we could get me a prop fucking before we get started, that'd be fantastic.

But I'm enjoying the hell out of that SmackDown stuff. Yeah. I mean, from what you told me too, that didn't make the show. The intro that Cole had. Oh my God. It was magnificent. I mean, I didn't want to bring it up, but. I was past it. It was magnificent. I mean, I didn't want to bring it up, but it was hysterical.

It might have been our biggest moment we've had in some time on the Internet, if that's allowed to go. Well, maybe they'll use you for season two, Young Rock. Ooh. Yeah, maybe. You're right. You're right. Maybe that'll happen.

Absolutely. Have Viva Lazzito, Evan Foxey, Jason McAfee, Nick Marauder, Ty Schmidt is here. This ain't about me anymore. Just know that what you're looking at something I don't enjoy and I think I have to do this. Oh, the giraffe? Yeah. Stretch it out? That's what you got to do, I think.

Whenever you got like just a jug head and neck that's just coming. Hey, I hear you. You know what I mean? My body is completely connected from here all the way to here. It's just basically the same size. It is a tough thing to do. Need the to get back it'll come but never give away the neck i should also have a beer in the office ty i do i think it looks pretty good you look like fucking don johnson in miami vice get a pink suit for you how about this corvette down there look at that

how about we go to yale Yeah, Harvard Which Ivy League school I came through the side door Yeah Okay Came through the side door Me and that guy What did you guys do this weekend? I saw you were back in Iowa

How was it? Yep, it was good You know, I saw the fam A little bridal shower It was nice Yeah, what was that? I seen you with a picture there With a sash on

Yeah I didn't do that What happened? No, I don't Well, my aunts uh they weren't there but they sent some stuff and it was just for like that because we're getting married on the east coast a lot of people uh in iowa aren't gonna go out there so uh yeah just a lot of those people and then uh some of my brothers were there family got a little a little tuned up maybe a

little too tuned up you guys have a couple adult beverages? Yeah, yeah. I lost my phone for about three hours or so, but it was a good weekend. Thank you for finding it. I did find it. It does have a little bit of water damage now, but I did find it. Okay, got to put in some rice. Yeah.

Got to put in some rice. Time to get a new one. I'm happy you guys had a great week. It looked like a blast, though. Yeah, it was good. I mean, we're getting close now, so now, like, after that, I feel like that was kind of like the last thing,

and now it's like, hey, you know, wedding's right around the corner, soats yeah excited aside from the beard how was your weekend uh my weekend was okay it was good it was really good the um you know got to watch some stuff hang out i slept till noon on saturday yeah that that was i woke up and i was like god damn what time is it my wife had been up for like four hours. She's like, it's noon. And I'm like, golly, I got to figure that out. But watched some movies, you know, obviously.

Got a chance to chat with the moms. That was nice. Watched two things, though, I would recommend. Okay. This is Netflix, HBO, Apple. Apple is one of them. Oh. So, obviously, the Sons of Sam, Son of Sam doc on Netflix.

Worth a watch. Okay, worth a watch. I think it was done by the same people that did the hotel thing. Oh, okay. What's the hotel thing? The one, Cecil? Yeah, Cecil Hotel. The Cecil Hotel.

Because we all watched the Cecil Hotel and it was like five, six episodes or whatever. And we said, you know what? Could have been two episodes. The thing about Son of Sam could most definitely be two episodes oh i mean could but maury terry who was the investigative reporter who wrote this entire story you know try to take us on a ride and everything like that and i respect him a lot and i also believe it was the process okay there was an occult involved i I think people need to, I think people need to understand that. This is not a one man job.

Worth a watch. I did not know about the, um, the son of Sam thing though. I had no idea. I was born in 1987, which is a pretty crucial date through that entire thing. 1987, June, actually one month after I was born, something happened in it. And I've heard in rap songs, son of Sam, son of me or whatever. So I knew That it existed That was crazy

And then I started Thinking about that The world back in the 70s Let alone New York City But just the world People were able To get away with Whatever the fuck

They wanted Oh yeah Like back in the day You could get away With whatever That's why I understand that stats Say there's serial killers

Everywhere And I think by the way A guy who killed The Delphi girls Is potentially Allegedly way a guy who killed the uh delphi girls or is potentially allegedly maybe a guy that was involved in that case linked is potentially been arrested or whatever because he had a kid locked in his basement or something this guy has two the tattoos of the delphi girls with tears all over their faces like as tattoos on his arm really so everybody just assumes this guy is potentially something i forget his name i won't

say his name because I might be wrong. But I guess people are saying he was potentially a serial killer that did that. And I know that they exist out there. But, man, back in the day, people could just move a couple hours away and do whatever the fuck they wanted. Literally. Or travel even like an hour and do whatever. That's insane to me. I don't know how everybody operated back in the day without. I mean, I would assume there was just terrible people all over the place i'd assume that was

especially just the crimes like the berkowitz and like the other people who are linked to it they were just walking up to car windows firing shots and walking away well that is wild you're gonna learn some other stuff later if you have not finished it oh really i got one more last one now you're gonna watch the last one you're gonna say i could have just watched this one you know because they do like a full yeah top to bottom and they kind of explain it all. But it's a nice ride, I think. Percy versus Goliath is another one. Whoa.

Okay. Percy Scheisser, I believe from Saskatchewan, Canada. Oh, not Saskatchewan. This guy was just a farmer. All right. He's played by Walken. What's his name? Christopher Walken. Christopher. I think that's the guy, right? He was in that ping pong movie. Yeah. played by Walken. What's his name? Christopher Walken.

I think that's the guy, right? He was in that ping pong movie. Yeah. Balls of Fury. Yeah, yeah. Okay. So he was in that movie. So Balls of Fury, that guy plays this farmer, whatever,

77-year-old farmer or something like that, who ends up getting sued by this Mancanto seed GMO creators, basically, because somehow their seeds ended up on his farm and he wasn't paying them a license to use their their seed whatever you would think it's a very boring movie yeah not bad hey we got the supreme court of canada involved up there yeah they have to wear costumes i guess up in canada whenever you go to supreme court you got to act like you're going back way back in the day. No wigs on, but the, the full costumes, it was pretty good little thing.

I learned a lot about farming though. Hey, there are some manipulative bullshit happening in the farming world, huh? Oh yeah. I mean, I don't know, but I would assume so because you know, I mean there's a lot of land disputes where people have, where stuff is more valuable and I mean, shit, farmers make a lot of money. So I think big corpse, by the way, uh, I don't know if this is more valuable. And, I mean, shit, farmers make a lot of money. Well, I think big corps, by the way, I don't know if this is still happening. This was happening in 2001, I think, maybe, is when it all happened, or 1999 or something like that. It feels like a lot of big corporations try to take advantage of farmers.

What do you mean try to set them up and say, hey, these farmers are a bunch of stooges out there. Little do they know, those farmers will look at you right now and say, fuck you. And that is what Percy did. That is kind of the story of this Percy guy. So I enjoyed it a lot because it was about something that I knew nothing of. But, of course, big corporations are getting into the farming world and taking over.

Grady Corporate Fat Cats, what do you expect? Does the Supreme Court look like Santa in their photos? No. Go ahead. That's the first video that popped up. Okay, so this is probably a Christmas version, but the two tie things were hanging over like a black robe, basically.

It wasn't just the judge or that. The prosecuting or the attorneys for the big corporation, that were six of them, they all had to have their costumes on. The defense lawyer for Percy had to have his costumes on the defense lawyer for percy had to have his costume on and then percy the farmer was just sitting there in his own like suit it was pretty but they had like seven lawyers attacking this one guy and it was very it was just very

fascinating there's nothing new really out no i love a good courtroom drama too if those are done well those are very very entertaining you know walken was a pretty good actor oh yeah he crushes it still got it you bet what was he he was in something else i know too wedding crashers yeah there it is that's the thing all right anyways enough about my weekend with no fucking hair uh joining us now is a man who uh just did a podcast where he said the entire city of green Bay, Wisconsin stinks. Ladies and gentlemen, Minnesota Viking wide receiver Adam Thiel. Adam, how you doing?

I'm pretty good. Thanks for adding fuel to the fire for the last couple hours. No, I have not. No, we have not done that at all, Adam. How are you? It is great to see you. You look amazing, pal. I'm good. It's good to see you guys. I love being on the show. How are you? It is great to see you. You look amazing, pal. I'm good.

It's good to see you guys. I love being on the show. Love seeing you guys. But, yeah, just crazy, crazy times. Okay, let's talk about the crazy times. You said, and we quote, and we might get this wrong. You said the worst stadium in the NFL by far. It has the least updated technology.

They pipe in wind and sound in there. It's got bleachers as if this is a high school amateur rinky-dink play. Don't forget, only porta-potties, no bathrooms. Porta-potties. You've got to walk two miles from the visiting locker room. You're talking about Lambeau Field. Do you want to clarify any of the statements you made there? And how has it been in in the firestorm i assume that you have been sitting in here for the last day or so so this just puts a little bit of a glimpse on the firestorm uh i woke up this

morning and showed my wife everything you know blowing up and and she goes what are you talking about lambeau feels the best field of all time. My wife is coming out. She loves going to games there. But, yeah, so I'm not here to defend myself, but I do want to put a little context on this. To start the conversation, I said it is one of my favorite places to play. And then it went into, okay, well, I've heard, you know, they said, you know, I've heard that, you know, it's not the nicest stadium in the world.

The locker room's not that nice. And they wanted me to elaborate on that. And I, you know, went into saying what I said and ended up getting killed for it. So I will say that I love playing at Lambeau, you know, the tradition, the history. Oh, yeah. Sure. Convenient. say that I love playing at Lambeau. You know, the tradition, the history. Oh, yeah. And I will say my favorite thing about Lambeau is coming out of that little, little tunnel.

Walking out to the field, you know, fans pouring beer on you when you do a Lambeau leave, stuff like that. It's great. But yeah, I said what I said and I'm getting killed for it. So it is what it is. Did you have any idea, I guess, when you said it in the moment that it was going to cause a stir?

I took it as, honestly, I was like, he didn't really say anything bad about Lambeau. You said it's not luxurious. Okay, I think people in Green Bay are like, hey, that's good. We're here to watch football. That's what we want to do. And obviously you didn't really, like, you weren't killing the facilities. You said the away locker room isn't great, which I think if you would build a brand-new stadium,

I would make the locker room garbage. I wouldn't paint it pink like Iowa, but I'd make the away locker room isn't great, which I think if you would build a brand new stadium, I would make the locker room garbage. I wouldn't paint it pink like Iowa, but I'd make the away locker room just garbage. Single-ply toilet paper. I mean, the whole thing. You're right. You're 100%. Well, I think it's funny because when you do these podcasts or come on these shows, you're just kind of talking with the boys.

You're just kind of hanging out, talking, and you don't really think about those things. And I actually recorded it a long time ago when i was out in arizona and with played golf with those guys and uh they're great people by the way you should have them on the show uh but um but anyway so i didn't even think anything of it and then all of a sudden stuff starts blowing up and getting killed but uh but like you said you know like i was just saying you know what what it looks like and and that's not a bad thing. I think it's kind of cool to have that atmosphere of just backyard football. Nothing like rolling into Lambeau Field when you drive on the bus

and you're going through houses, and all of a sudden there's Lambeau Field. I think it's pretty cool. But anyways, it is what it is. Listen, Adam, we are obviously trying to stir shit. Oh, yeah. You should not feel bad at all about what you said. Now, with that being said, I'd assume coming out of that interview, you know, talking to the wife, like, hey, well, hey.

It went well. Those guys are cool. I mean, yeah. Got a chance to talk a little football. We talked a little Lambo. Talked a little golf. I had a great time. Then all of a sudden here a couple weeks later it comes out,

and it's like, I did not know that was going to happen. That is – that's funny. How was your golf game? You get better this offseason or worse? It's pretty solid, I'm not going to lie. My ADHD is still pretty bad, so I'm not as consistent as I'd like to be and not scoring the way I am. But, man, I've been hitting the ball better than I've ever hit in my life. I wish I could make some putts.

Are you doing football stuff now too? How's this whole thing working with the whole NFLPA, NFL offseason, virtual offseason, the torn Achilles by Jawan James? How is this whole thing – how is this all coming together for you guys on your side? It's been quite a wild offseason just like, you know, hearing is this whole thing, how is this all coming together for you guys on your side? It's been quite a wild offseason, just like, you know, hearing all this stuff, kind of being confused of are we supposed to show up? Are we not supposed to show up? Are our guys going in? Are our guys not going in? It's kind of been confusing, to be honest, and just trying to jump on all these calls and figure out where guys are at and what we want to get done.

And it's kind of confusing. But yeah, just kind of trying to train through all that, trying to take care of business, get on these virtual meetings we've had for the last few weeks. And it sounds like, you know, we might be in the building next week and getting back to work. And we have great conversations with the coaches about, you know, trying to do what it takes to help this team win a Super Bowl. So, hopefully that's the case,

and hopefully we can make strides towards that ultimate goal. You guys are back in the building next week? I don't know. It sounds like it. Hey, you're going to end up in shit again, Thielen. You mean just the Vikings, or do you hear other teams, or how does it work? Well, honestly, I think there's been a lot of guys already in the buildings across the league, and I think that's kind of why we're at where we are now. It's like, well, there's already a handful of guys already in the buildings across the league and I think that's kind of why we're we're at where we are now it's like well there's already a handful of guys in

the building and and you know you don't have any leverage if there's guys in there and going to work so at the end of the day it's it's more of an individual team thing where you try to figure out okay how can we compromise have communication with the coaches and the staff and try to make it what's best for the team, you know, taking care of guys but still being able to be around guys and get work in but being smart about it. Go ahead, Ty. Adam, you already addressed the Lambeau thing, which is okay, because you admitted last time you came on the show that you've been trying

to play for the Packers, you know, and get over there and play with Aaron for years. Oh, yeah. We can just avoid that. I forgot about that. How weird would it be to play the Packers next year? How much does that division change if Aaron's not the quarterback? Well, yeah.

I mean, it's completely different, right? That guy's one of the best to ever do it. He's a completely different – he's a game changer on any team, with any personnel, you know, he's a game changer. And definitely be different, but at the end of the day, it's a rivalry game. We haven't won too many times in Lambeau because of that. You know, it's a rivalry game. They've kind of owned the division for a long time, won a ton of Super Bowls.

And, you know, as a competitor, that's who you want to play. That's who you want to beat. And that's why I said whatls. And, you know, as a competitor, that's who you want to play. That's who you want to beat. And that's why I said what I said about, you know, there's nothing better than coming out of Lambeau with a win because they do have that kind of chip on their shoulder as the NFC North champions and with all the Super Bowls they've won. So as a competitor, that's who you want to play. You want to play the best.

You want to knock them off their game. And, yeah, it's going to be different. We'll see what happens. But at the end of the day, it's still a rivalry game, and you're still going to get the best out of them. Hey, do you guys think maybe, and maybe you run this up to Zim or whatever, but do you think the week you guys play in Lambeau, you go play at some high school fields in front of the bleachers?

Oh. You know, because maybe with all that plush, like that new Viking Stadium. Oh, man. So nice. I mean, it is so nice. I mean, when the thing goes, the whole thing. Oh, it's so beautiful. Do you think maybe it is the bleachers and, like, the rough and tough

and, like, old school throwback attitude over there that gets you is that the issue like you're going into green bay and it's the bleachers get you off your game a little bit dealing the bleachers have been just amplified since that came out but no it's funny you say that because i was actually i was actually seeing somebody posted something and after after this all came out and it was was like, check out these NFC North stadiums. And it was like all the nice pictures of the Lions, Vikings, and Bears stadium. And then it was a picture of bleachers. That's all it was for Lambeau.

People are really taking this and running with it. You're a terrible guy, Adam. You're a terrible guy. Adam. You're a terrible guy. Adam, what do you have, Connor? Yeah, Adam, since you clarified that, it's clearly not Lambeau. Just to keep the shit stirred here, what is your least favorite stadium to play in? Yeah, worst fan base? Uh-huh.

Oh, man, you guys are really trying to get it. What's your favorite? I'll take it this way. So everybody always asks, what's your favorite stadium so everybody always asks okay what's your favorite stadium to play and you know what's your least favorite things like that and um like i said in this interview i said you know lambo is one of my favorite places to play um like i said it was it's one of your the best places to come out with a victory uh you know and and and on the reverse side of that it's the worst place to come out with a loss because it's just it's just like

feel like you've lost the super bowl when you come out of there, it's the worst place to come out with a loss because it's just like, I feel like you've lost the Super Bowl when you come out of there because, you know, the Vikings fans, like you just ripped their heart out because you lost at Lambeau and the Packer fans continue to have those bragging rights. But honestly, I love just crazy atmospheres. You go to the Superdome or the Mercedescedes-benz dome now um in new orleans uh you got you got uh seattle i mean there's nothing like those i mean you come out of there you can't hear for a week because it's just electrifying so um i love playing in those kind of environments where

the fans are nasty and uh you know a place like philly you know we played there in the nc championship game and uh it's just fun to play in those places that they hate you and they want you to do terrible. And that's kind of as competitive a place you want to play. I love those places as well. I'd assume AJ does as well. I think not enough fan bases understand how much a lot of players appreciate that, actually.

Like, I think some people are like, oh, let these guys work or come to the job. It's like, no, I think we kind of enjoy of enjoy it actually whenever we can look at somebody and say hey hey i'm gonna smack you right in the mouth like i enjoy those like baltimore i love going to baltimore i don't know if you get a chance to go obviously nfc as much that place is amazing houston was absolutely amazing down there i never got to play in Seattle. I feel like I missed out greatly there. Speaking of Seattle, AJ, do you know about the heckler? Do you remember that guy that sits out the locker room in Seattle and just kills people?

No. Right outside the away locker room? It's incredible. You can hear him in the locker room. So the year after we lost to them in the playoffs, we missed the field goal at the end of the game and blair walsh was still on our team and and you could hear the guy outside of our locker room for for literally the entire pregame just screaming blair walsh like for

literally an hour and a half and hear him like playing his day in the locker room but he's like literally the world's best heckler. I wish I could find the guy's name because he's incredible. Oh, that is beautiful. And he knows, by the way, that he can be heard inside that locker room. I assume the Seahawks were like, hey, pal, listen, we've been scouting you. We understand you're good. We're going to put you right above their locker room, basically.

You can say whatever you want. That's a weapon. Good for that. There used to be. He's getting in my head, like, before the game. And he comes with the most, like, deep dives. Like, this guy really does his work. Like, I'm pretty sure he's paid by the Seahawks because he does that good of work.

Like, he deep dives to get, like, to get, you know, stuff on guys that you would. You're like, what? Where did he even come up with that? That is true, sir. But what the fuck? Where did he even come up with that? That is true, sir, but what the fuck? Where did that come from? We can't thank you enough for joining us. You're the man.

Did you see the hit Darius Butler? I mean, you felt it whenever we played, but that was making its way around the internet as you were attacking Green Bay. Obviously, Packers fans were like, oh, to hell with this guy, and it just so happened to be great friend of the show, Darius Butler, killing you across

the middle. Do you remember that hit? And is that the biggest one you've taken in your NFL career? Yeah. So again, along the lines of when people ask me, what's the biggest hit you've ever had? That's the one that comes to my mind every time. That season was the only game I didn't have a catch in, was that game. And that was why he knocked me out of the game.

Oh, Darius. Bully, dude. Everybody's tagging me in this clip and saying, hey, I'll give you $10,000 to go do this to Adam again. But anyways, I was watching it. I'm pretty sure that was a catch. So I should have had a catch there. It was a catch and fumble.

That's a great picture there I love that uh but anyways yeah that was one of the best hits I've ever and the best part about it was I I saw the whole thing happening because uh I remember it pretty plain as day it was like a double move and I think I beat the corner pretty good got on top of him and and Sam Bradford was a quarterback he got hit as he's throwing so I'm I'm looking at Sam he's getting hit as he's throwing so the ball was a little bit inside it and I'm like literally looking at Darius in the eyes as I'm running towards this ball like all right here we go just get killed so uh that was a good one hey Sam Bradford Kirk Cousins similar uh yeah you know I think it's kind of fun, honestly. You know, I've been able to play with so many different quarterbacks.

Everybody, all of them kind of have their strengths and their weaknesses. But Sam was one of the most accurate guys I've ever played with. I mean, it was just incredible. The way that he was able to throw like a fade ball or get the ball like up and down. But it was like a kind of a happy medium of a, you know, throw it up in the air and let me run to it and like a line drive but i remember playing the packers that year and and at lambo actually and and uh was my most receiving yards i've ever had in my in my career and it was it felt pretty good hey that felt pretty good how did you go along and it was it was literally all sam brad I mean, I remember a couple of those throws were just ridiculous.

Like, I look back at it, like, he literally caught the ball for me. Was able to do a Lambeau leap that game, and I dreamed my entire life of doing a Lambeau leap and was able to do it and got beer poured on me and got booed pretty good by a bunch of my former college teammates were booing me in the stands, so it was pretty good. Okay, so is that when, when you did the Lambeau Leap, you were like, oh, this place stinks?

I appreciate you. Adam, have a great day. Good luck this upcoming season. I hope you kill it, as always. And thanks for stirring shit for us to talk about. If you could do that more often, we'd appreciate it. I figured you guys would like that. Something to talk about on a Monday.

Well, not just a Monday. We are in a dead time. We'll be talking about this on Wednesday. Yeah, anytime you want to potentially. We need to change this number now. Adam, we need to change your number and then we need to know how much it costs to buy out your old number,

the inventory and everything. What do you think? I think number, what single digits are available for you? Well, that, I actually was like, that's kind of sweet because my college number was number nine. And so that's why I picked number 19.

So I was like, oh, I'll just switch to number nine. And then I saw Delvin Cook was going to have to pay $1.5 million. And I'm like, ah, yeah, I'm good. I'll pass. So you haven't even looked into it? No, I haven't looked into it. I figured it would be more than $10, and I'm not willing to change the word. The punter has number nine anyway,

so thank God for staying away from that. Ladies and gentlemen, Adam Thielen. Good dude. Yeah. That's crazy, though, that, you know, how the world works nowadays. He says,

I love playing in land, blah, blah, blah, blah. I mean, it's nothing fancy. You can clip it right there. I mean, it's nothing fancy. It's just like a throwback, and then all of a sudden, it's like, boom,

$10,000, Darius. You take this guy it's nothing fancy. It's just like a throwback. And then all of a sudden it's like, boom, $10,000. Darius, you take this guy's head off again. It's like, whoa. That's the awesomeness of the internet, by the way. Weeks ago, too. He'd completely forgotten about this until. Good interview. That's awesome. That's great.

He's a good guy. You ever meet him in person? Yeah, I have. He's awesome. Great dude all the time. Great guy. I mean, unbelievable golfer, but also a stud receiver. He's really good.

How about he had to pay to try out for the NFL? How does a guy like him slip through the cracks, as they say? Where'd he go? He was at Marshall, Minnesota University? Mankato State, maybe, or something like that. Mankato? Minnesota State? If it was Mankato, by the way, that's the big corp.

That's the big corp that Percy Scheisser went after is Moncanto. Oh, no. Minnesota State. Minnesota State. There it is. What's that, dude? Wait, who went after somebody? Percy Scheisser, dude.

Have a little fucking respect, please. A moment of silence. Sorry, Minnesota State, Mankato University. I knew it was a mixture of the Mankato. Okay, so I hope that has nothing to do with the Mankato seed, GMO seed company. Oh, Monsanto, okay.

My bad. Do you know what Monsanto is? Of course. What is it? Monsanto, the giant company that people, they get a bad rap, I guess, for GMOs, for genetically modified seeds and stuff.

Nah, they don't get a bad rap because of that. Which, by the way, they created the shit that kills the weeds, which also kills the plant in the harvest. Then they created seeds to survive their own shit that killed everything. And it became the only thing you could use. Smart. So, I mean, it was a hell of a business move. But Percy Shizer said, uh-uh. Just because your seeds happen to blow into my field, I ain't fucking doing it.

Yeah. No spoiler alerts, but it gets to the Supreme Court. Whoa. Percy versus Goliath, it's worth it. You should watch it. People go through many changes as we get older, isn't that right? Oh, yeah. Hell yeah.

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So does it start at zero or does it start at 30? That's the thing. This is where they can get you. It's one of them damn word problems. This is one of those rounds where you're like, oh, wait a minute. Which, can I ask a follow-up? Anyways, I was good at those tests

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Thank you, Roman. Thank you, Roman. Hammer Don boys have joined us in the studio. Gumpy and Diggs. Diggs, I'll ask you, because Gumpy told me not to ask him. How is the weekend power? We making money for people. Great weekend.

Got a new bet. No run in the first innings. Might be my new bet. Oh, I saw everybody had been telling you that that should be your new bet. And then I tried it on Saturday. Hit a three-team parlay with that. So you're raking in money on this baseball season right now? Baseball's the best, dude.

First five and then the no runs. Is this because the pitchers are better this year because the new balls? They introduced a new ball. It's a little bit of a dead ball this year. I mean, the weather was cold. The weather's heating up a little bit. So overs are actually starting. They're starting to hit a little bit more.

Oh, and they're probably going to change back to the good ball, too, because people are probably getting bored with this whole thing. I saw the only time they really make it into conversation is when somebody has a perfect game or a shutout. People like dingers. And then the immediate conversation is, is this good for baseball? And everybody says, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope. So fascinating because I do appreciate the work the pitchers have

put in, but it feels like if the MLB can't just let them eat steroids anymore like what used to happen, they have to at least give them a little bit of a, which is a little pop off the ball there. Let's assume that happens again. Remember this show had Tucker Barnhart on a year before it was announced that they

had juiced balls that they were playing with. He was the catcher for the Cincinnati Reds. I think he still is. He came on and he was like, they're going to say that there's nothing. These new balls that we've been using fly or whatever. And he touches it every single pitch or whatever. And then I think like six months later it came out. During the playoffs

that year it came out that like, yeah, we did juiced balls. I believe he caught, was he catching on Friday night? Yeah, he caught a no-hitter on Friday night. Wade Miley. He's a golden glove, Tucker. He's from Indiana. Cool dude. Great beard, by the way. He'd probably laugh right in my face. Joining us, he's a clean-shaven

man. Ladies and gentlemen, AJ Hawk. Hey, dude. What's up, man? You guys are twins. What's up, man? You guys are twins. What's up, dude? Wow. I need to have a clean-shaven face.

So you used an actual razor, like an old man, and shaved it? I did not. I sat down in a chair, and somebody else did. Oh, was it a straight razor? No, it was a triple-sorted thing. Oh, Jalaka. Jalaka. I think so.

Foxy. Foxy. Do you remember Foxy? Yeah, I would just call it, Norelco. I think so. Foxy. Foxy. You remember Foxy? Yeah, I would just call it an electric shaver. I have no idea. I think it was a round one, though. Round one? Oh, three of the... Yeah.

So you could shave your chin. Yeah, I'm not 100% sure, but I think... I was not happy about it while it was happening, so I couldn't stop to do the mustache or the chops. It was gone before I even got a chance to really blink or say anything. It was absolutely gone.

So it's a whole new me, AJ. You're looking at a new me for about, I don't know, probably three or four years now at this point. At least it worked out and the bit got on air. That was great, man. Well, that did not get on air. That's the thing, AJ. It got on air.

That's the thing. You know, and actually everything else. I thought maybe they slid in towards the end. I don't know. Oh, yeah, because you fell asleep. You were watching, but up with the family, obviously. You might have fell asleep at the end because big Saturday coming up, you know, a fight and everything.

But, yeah, never made the year, and everything else that was potentially going to make the year got canceled. But, you know, you got to do what you got to do. Now I've got a fresh face. Yeah, I think you look good. I mean, you definitely look different for sure. Thank you. AJ AJ there ain't nothing grow back it's been for the Friday nothing there's nothing you got a little bit of a five

now see that's on my neck where they didn't shave you guys are seeing oh on my face there's nothing like it makes your hey I think it makes their chain pop a little bit maybe you should always have like that well I put the chain on to distract from the face. This is a gift from Connor. Actually, thank you, Connor. I appreciate it. It looks good. Connor got us from a birthday.

Appreciate that. You did grow some respect within the business, though. Yeah. And you can't put a price on respect. No, you cannot. Hey, you got any updates on Aaron? I hate to say it, but no, I do not have any updates. What the fuck going on, AJ?

Are there any rumors out there? Like, are there any new rumors floating around the internet, though? Well, I heard you were on with Colin and talked about a TV show or something. Was he filming a TV show? Is that what you said to Colin? I don't think I ever said anything to Colin. Kyle heard about that. No, you said he's filming a TV show.

He said he's filming TV shows. And then I saw a trailer. He's on a TV show. Yeah. Connors. Oh, a TV show yeah Connors oh he's on the corners he's on the corners as the Jeopardy host with Dan Conner yeah no he's I I saw the I don't know if Dan Conner or James Conner it's the uh sister though that that she's on Jeopardy I believe and Aaron's the host oh AJ didn't tell us that thanks a lot wait he was on an episode of the Roseanne knockoff show? It's not a knockoff, AJ. Spinoff, I mean, yes.

Continue. My bad. Well, I mean the way you said it. But wait. Remember Roseanne was on that Ambien? Good Lord, AJ. You called it Mickey Mouse Roseanne. She's not there anymore.

Oh, yeah. She did get run out of time. See ya. They ran her out of the neighborhood real quick. Don't need you, lady. By the way, we'll create the same show without you. Classic Andy. The show's still on, and Aaron's on it, dude.

Aaron's on it. And then you broke it. I'm learning about it right here from you. I had no idea that happened. Okay, so you're out of the loop, too. So none of us know anything right now. Is he retiring from Big TV? There were the fake Adam Schefter tweets over the weekend that he had been, that he got traded to the Raiders.

A lot of people were, you know, worked up about that. But what do you know? It wasn't true. Yeah, so it feels like it's all just going to continue to go around Carousel. And if you're not going to break any news, nobody will. There's some other things going on. DK Metcalf, AJ Hawk, he ran a 10-3-7 this weekend in 100-meter heat. Okay, he did not win.

He actually came in dead last. Yeah. All right, he actually came in dead last. Yeah. All right. He actually came in ninth out of nine. But I will tell you what. There are people that are tweeting me as if I was wrong with my thought that the country of the NFL could win some Olympic gold medals if they wanted to. If they were to focus nine months to a year on the sport that they were going to go dominate in the olympics do you the the country of the nfl i still believe would have a lot of success if i was to put together a four by 100 team i wouldn't have put dk meccaf on that

team but then when dk said hey i'm going to run the olympics thing i was like i caught buda baker that we should have had him on there yeah tyreek Hill alongside him, who his nickname is the Cheetah because of how fast he is. He came in dead last with a couple weeks of training here. He's also 50 pounds heavier than all these other motherfuckers. People were tweeting me as if this proved that I was wrong. I want to let you know, this proved that I was right. I'm even more confident at this point. If DK wanted to, after one year of training, if he was to lose 30 pounds,

he might Usain Bolt that fucking thing like this. The weight, the get-off, all the little things. Now, Grant, I know these aren't like Olympic gold medals here, but he was floating. All incredible athletes, all much faster than me or whatever, but people were acting as if this made NFL players look bad.

I think the complete opposite, AJ, don't you? I mean, he ran a 10.37. I don't think the general public understands how fast that really is. Yeah, it's unbelievable. Especially for a guy his size. And it also, it's like the horse races, you know, where it's like, I don't want to say the noses, but I mean, he's what, four yards behind? Yeah.

He's not getting smoked by any means. Which in a track that is huge, I guess that's a huge difference. But I assume if he worked on his get-off for, I don't know, maybe four months straight every single day, and I would assume he'd be a lot faster. And by the way, this is one year of dedicated life. Eat, sleep, breathe, whatever that sport is, like the Olympians do, which I have a lot of respect for.

I just think there needs to be a little bit more respect on the amount of athletes and great athletes that are in the NFL. Plus, I think in the country of the NFL versus everybody, track was going to be the hardest one to win. We said that too. Track is difficult. That is not an easy one. Because speed is speed.

Hey, and you can't teach that. Well, yeah. That as well. It was striking, though, seeing him stand next to the the dude afterwards like oh jesus christ he is he's 45 50 pounds heavier than this guy this is unreal bro he was with him yeah oh yeah he was his stride look i did not know he was an under armor guy until this by the way i had no idea he was an under armor athlete under armor should be trying to maybe push that a little bit maybe i would have sold if i was him i have tried to sell sponsorship on the back everywhere,

all over those tights, everything. I don't think he needs it. DK is going to get paid a lot of money. But, I mean, this is your chance to be a race car. I mean, I'm maybe getting tattoos sold on me if I ever get a chance to do something like that. Good for DK, though. But I was getting attacked by the Olympic community this weekend.

I mean, it also at the same time shows you like how legit runners are too like how fast truly people are there's so much skill and talent in all different walks of life but yeah i think dk is unbelievably impressive but yeah he got nine out of nine on that heat like you said i'm sure he could beat some guys if he had a couple more months but there's uh yeah there's talented people everywhere man go watch some high school play and i'm blown away i'm like how's this dude not the biggest star in the history of the world? How is this the girl in the lead? She's not in movies every day.

There's a lot of talented people everywhere. How about the goddamn kid from Texas that's going to Alabama next year? Oh, boy. Have you seen this dude? The Yodel Kid? What's that dude? Does he come with the Yodel Kid? Yeah, he's playing quarterback at Alabama next year. What?

Mason? Mason Ramsey, yeah. Ramsey? Yeah, he's playing quarterback at Alabama next year. What? Mason? Mason Ramsey, yeah. Ramsey? Yeah, signed with Alabama. I guess he had like a huge growth spurt, gained like 75 pounds. Wow. Yeah, he can spin. He was coming out like this. Yeah. He was flying this big?

Yeah, now he's doing that on the fucking football field, going out of the pocket. Bro, you're like... Remember that? Yeah, now he's doing that on the fucking football field. Going out of pocket. Bro, you're fucking... Remember that? Yeah, every time. I remember Foxy was doing that. Yeah, how's your girl? How's your family?

I believe it was captured there. Yeah. It's like, whoa. Wow. I know, time flies, right? Bro, he was yodeling in Walmart, what felt like yesterday. I know. Now he's throwing TDs.

Anyways, I don't think it's him. I don't think it's him. I don't think it's him. What I was talking about was the linebacker. There's a linebacker. I just sent Zeke the picture. Kendrick Blackshire is his name. Kendrick Blackshire? He is maybe 6'10", 400 pounds.

Oh, shit. He looks like he can just run faster than everybody as well. He's going to Alabama. And they're like, why does Alabama always win? You know? Wait until you see this dude. What's his name? Kendrick Blackshire.

That guy going to Alabama. Holy shit. Can we get him along next to others? Let me see. I can see. Yeah. Is he what? 17, 18 max?

17 years old, yeah. Oh, my God. That's not bad. 17-year-old? That's awesome. I mean, it's amazing. Playing the same position as A.J. H. Oh, my God. That's a 17-year-old? That's awesome. I mean, it's amazing. Playing the same position as A.J. Holt. Good God.

He's got to be an outside backer, right? You've got to have that guy rush the passer. He looks so tall. I would assume. And hopefully he'll wear a single digit all the way through his entire NFL career. The Arizona Cardinals are going to be the most swagged-out team, I do believe. A lot of new players going there. So, you know, you can change your number without having to buy out the old jersey numbers

because if you're in the same place, you change your number, you have to buy all the jerseys that are left in inventory, both for the shop and in the building. I guess Dalvin Cook, it would have been $1.5 million or something like that for him to pay for that. James Conner goes to the Arizona Cardinals. He's wearing number six. Yeah, he's rocking a number six back here. You know what I mean?

Whoop, whoop, whoop. I don't know why. I have no idea. I assume there's a reason why he's wearing a number six. AJ, what number would you have worn if you would have went to the Arizona Cardinals this year? Because I think Buda also wearing a low number. He's wearing number three. I think they're going to be – maybe JJ's wearing a number nine. He's wearing number three. I think they're going to be – maybe J.J.'s wearing a number nine.

He should. He should. I mean, that team's going to be swagged out. Kyler Murray wearing the number one. Cliff Kingsbury with his feet up in that house. I'll tell you what, that owner hopped on his plane and said, we're going to try to make a run at this thing. A.J. Green comes in, obviously, alongside.

We don't know if Fitz is coming back for $10 million guaranteed. Let's assume he will. That team could be good, and they're going to enjoy the hell out of it. Is A.J. Green going to change number? He should go single-digit for sure. I mean, it seems like it's a thing to do over there. I'd like number two. I would want to wear that if I had a single-digit.

Something just happened here. Our picture was sitting on top of a MySportsUpdate tweet. Some more jersey number updates. Cardinals running back Chase Edmonds is now switching to number two. Cornerback Byron Murphy is going to number seven. And as also previously mentioned, Buda Baker is switching to number three. James Conner will wear number six. Wow.

It is a – hey, Arizona Cardinals are a fun team to play for. They are. Rondo Moore will probably wear number four. Yeah, maybe, huh? That's what it will be, yeah. Uh-huh. A.J. Green was eight in Georgia. Ooh.

There we go. Hey, that team is going to be – they were so good last year. And then at the exact same time, they played like shit. They played like shit some games. It was so expensive to me. It was so expensive to me that early like week five to eight, it feels like, maybe five to nine, I was riding the Cardinals wave. Yeah, last leg in a couple parlays.

What was it, $70,000? How much was it? Yeah, $72,000. $72,000 parlay, Dolphins, Cardinals. Hey, Kyler was banged up though, wasn't he? It seems like he was playing through a lot. I guess we didn't know about it. I think so too.

And also their kicker was short from like 40 yards or something. Oh, yeah. Really? Yeah. Uh-huh. Can't do it, dude. Wait, that's when they – that's when Nuge came in. Nuge started kicking for him.

Yeah, maybe. Yeah, I'll tell you what. Their coach saw the same thing I did. It's the NFL. Can't come up short from that close. Can't do it. What are we doing? That team could be great, though.

Oh, they should – yeah, they absolutely are set up to have a great year. But has Buda Baker come out and said how much it costs him to buy out his inventory? I would assume it's going to cost money. He's popular over there, right? Yeah. Fanatics will come out and let us know. Oh, yeah. Fanatics will say, we ain't eating this. Oh, you think I'm eating that price? No, no. You want to do a little swagged out thing? Okay.

You're going to have to pay us, for sure. That's on you. Fanatics, by the way, are they headquartered in Tampa Bay? We drive by their building, I i feel like down there every single time beautiful building huge they sell a lot of merch down there i don't know if they're locked you got the one coming on yeah we got the one coming on nine minutes he talked shit at lamb on lambo did you hear that he didn't i don't feel like he did he said there's there's nothing like luxurious about it which i take that as a compliment if i'm a football fan. Let's play it. We actually have it here. Let's hear what he actually says.

This was on a golf podcast called Subpar Podcast. Shout it to them. Haven't heard of it before this. We'll listen to more. Yeah, it seems like they are good. I enjoyed the hell out of this. Ladies and gentlemen, Adam Thielen. There's nothing better than leaving Lambeau with a victory.

There's literally nothing better. What's that locker room like compared to what you have at Minnesota now? Yeah, it's terrible. I mean, and the whole stadium is not nice. You know, it's not – there's nothing fancy about it. Like, it's bleacher seats. Whoa. Wow. Yeah, isn't the Tampa – are they in the FanDuel house?

Do they do it in here? Someone – I was a little bit – I was distracted there. Was that in our studio? They have the same one? They got great taste. They do. I don't know who got it first us or them but good idea i apologize good wood great wood that could be in the box truck as well anyways shout out to golf subpar podcast love them uh i'm gonna be a fan moving forward aj already is but he you know he did kind of you're saying he just kind of was

describing it it wasn't meant to be a shot i mean you could take it as a shot if you want but all the things he said like okay it's not nice all right well it's a football stadium it actually like the field the lot even though the the away locker room isn't huge like it's still nice nothing's run down about it the stadium's not run down it's still nice but yeah they have bleacher seats because you can you can fit more people in. It's like every college stadium. They're not – sometimes they don't look as big. Like they can look very similar to an NFL stadium from the outside, but NFL stadiums usually have the bleachers.

So how many – you can fit 65,000 seats compared to 90,000 people if you had bleachers probably. Yeah, well, and they're thinking about comfort and, you know, the entire thing in it. That's not what it's about. It's about getting as many of your fans in the stadium as you can. Listen, I agree. I want to let you know.

But these Colts fans that have been privy to these seats and Operation Universal Stadium, if Jim Irsay was like, you know what, brother, we're going bleachers. We're going to turn this into a gladiator type, you know, Roman. We're going to have 150,000 people in here. The people that have been sitting in these seats with these chairs, with this thing, they'd say absolutely no way. I think that's what I was most impressed by is, you know,

there are spots, club seating, I think, where there's seats and there's suites and everything like that. But there is a lot of bleachers. That thing was packed out week 17, no playoffs on the line, people sitting on top of each other to get in there. You know, it's like a mythical place in the world of football. I still think of Steve Sable, you know, talking in the original NFL films

about the frozen tundra, and you're going out to a thing. It's much different than everywhere else, including that Viking stadium that is gorgeous. So, like, you know, I understand what Dillon's saying, but he did shit on Lambeau a little little bit and what he didn't bring up is it's a nine mile hike from the away visiting locker room to the field i mean it is a hall you gotta walk and then you go down this

little tiny hallway that's cement you know like not slip i mean it is it is not the same experience i'd assume for the packers as it is for a win. But as soon as you get on that field to AJ's point, it's like, this is fucking Lambeau, dude. This is pretty cool. But I like feeling kind of going on. This place stinks. There's a certain section of Heinz that's bleachers.

I do like the chairs. They are. Yeah. A little different. Mostly the bleacher section is not protected From the wind at all The chairs are nice Well Lambo's Very chilly

Yeah Very breezy up there as well The big house is all bleachers Yeah They're literally sitting On top of each other On top of each other It's brutal

Wait till Hey they're going to get good again too Hey Michigan's going to get good again That's right Nah I don't know about that Yeah

Our boss What happened He signed an extension Yeah They're going to be good. What are you talking about? He's worried. You heard the Ohio State worry.

Oh, yeah. You heard us? You guys lose Justin Fields. You guys think, oh, no, we're going to stink. You think Michigan's going to come through and drop the M down there on the O? Are they going to dot the I? Is that what you're going to do? Is that what you're worried about over there?

I'm not worried about it. I mean, it's good for football when Michigan-Ohio State is like a legit rivalry and Michigan is good all year and has a bunch of wins heading into that game. So, no, I'm not worried. I want Michigan to be good. Did I tell you? I walked into Fox Sports headquarters on an NFL Sunday or something like that. You know, I got to sit with fans that probably won the auction from your golf outing to go sit out there and uh it was very fascinating i thought i was going in there for

to potentially you know maybe like uh meet some people be on be on one of their kickoffs because they have two kickoff shows or whatever i thought that's what it was not what i was there for at all apparently i sat in a corner with fans and then got a chance to eat their buffet and then i i got a chance to look at stuff and then i went home it was you know I actually recorded a uh a for the brand video and while I was yelling I got yelled at because there was other stuff going on told me to pipe down so I actually had to go all the way outside I mean it was a real scene but as you walked in there that big ass robot what's his name Cletus yeah the robot on his chest it said it was a countdown in days to Ohio State, Michigan. Like it was a countdown in days to Ohio State, Michigan.

They're like, this is a massive game or whatever. That game is one that is talked about, I think, by a lot of people because of how, you know, cool it is and everything like that. But that has been a one-sided affair for some time now. That thing has to come back. Harbaugh's going to be the guy to do it. Yeah. Or maybe he won't be because he hasn't done it yet, right? There hasn't really been a close one yet. Yeah, there has not

been. The Bears tried to trade Nick Foles, but nobody wanted him. Says Kaplan, at Kaplan NFL. Allegedly during this entire process of getting Justin Fields and I assume Andy Dalton and everything like that, the Bears were

trying to trade Nick Foles and they were trying to do that strictly because the way his contract is set up, if they trade him they save like $13 million or something like that. I believe we have the picture of the contracts actually. If Nick Foles is traded pre-June

1. Pulling it up now. Oh, we don't have it. Oh, shit. It's like $12 million. Is this a reps thing too, potentially? What's that? As far as like Justin Fields getting reps, like, hey, we don't need Foles here stealing reps. No, I think it's just like, hey, this was fun.

Let's try to save some money. And if we cut him, it's going to cost us like $17 million. If we trade, it saves us $14 million. They allegedly tried to move Nick Foles. They weren't able to do it. Now Nick Foles knows that. I assume he was in the loop the entire time. Justin Fields is going to be a starter day one. Andy Dalton is going to be the backup. I feel like the Bears are ready to try to make this run at this thing. And if they don't, Nagy Pace or Fired Fields has a new offensive coordinator,

new head coach, and then they might get into the cycle routine again. But it does feel like Nick Foles is no longer a real thought for the Chicago Bears. Hopefully, big swing and Nick will go somewhere where he gets a chance to run a little magic again. Possibly Green Bay. Who knows? Yeah, I was thinking that they may. Nick Foles signed a three-year, $24 million contract with the Chicago Bears,

including a $8 million signing bonus. If he gets—no, go to the next one. Go to the next one. It's kind of hard now that everybody knows you were trying to trade. I'm like, if you want him, you're going to wait until it cuts. Yeah, well, Kaplan broke this news. I assume that Pace did not know. Okay, so here we go.

So a pre-June 1st trade in 2021, the dead cap hit would be $5.33 million. be 5.33 million. If they released him before June 1st, the cap would be $14.33 million. Okay, so that's $9 million saved there. Post-June 1st, if they were to trade him, the next year cap hit would be $2.6 million. If they were to release him post-6-1, it would cost them $11.66 million next year. So they want to trade him bad. They do not want to cut him. But everybody on earth knows that if they trade him, they have to pay him that money as well. So who knows what's going to happen with Nick Foles. But the Bears are probably not thrilled that old Kaplan released that information.

Or maybe they want it out there so other teams call about potentially getting Nick Foles. I guess so if you pick up Nick Foles and you have to take his contract, what do you owe? One year is 11 mil? That's his dead cap hit. I think it's two more years on that thing, 2021 and 2022, I believe. Yeah, 2022 also has a dead cap hit of $2.6 million if he's released after June 1st, and then $2.6 if he's traded. So 2022 only really gets hit post-June 1st and then 2.6 if he's traded so 2022 only really gets hit post june 1st release or trade yeah so you you're gonna eat an 11.6 million dollar dead cap if you cut him after june 1st

right yeah that's rough like can they find a way to make you know contracts aren't contracts how they void years can you do anything before you cut a guy once again if you're nick fullest why would you do that yeah there's no reason at all to do that it's like matt ryan you know he's he's owed like 100 million now granted uh teddy bridgewater redid his contract so he could get traded yep he's like i'm sick of this probably i'm sick of the situation let me go ahead and try to compete here with drew lock even though allegedly they're still in conversations who knows what the hell's gonna happen over there but like matt ryan owed 100 million and they're well, he could restructure his contract and get traded. I was like, I'm not.

No, no, no. How would it? You owe me $100 million? There's no way I'd be able to do it. Well, it's good for the team. It's like, well, my team, the Ryan family, $100 million is good for our team. You ever think about that? Never think about that.

Is there anywhere for Nick Foles to go? See, at this point, basically everyone who's needed a quarterback, I feel like they've basically addressed that. So, like, is there anything they can do to get rid of him? Maybe the Colts. Relax. Carson needs him. Texans maybe.

What if Frank Reich brought the band back to Texas? Hell yeah. The winning formula. Yeah, that's going to be what drives Carson. Like, hey, Carson, now Nick's going to watch you win a Super Bowl. Ooh. Oh, hey. They drafted someone, right?

Who? Coles. Ellinger. He's a winner. By the way, rest in peace to his brother. God, that was sad. It's hell to hear about. I mean, that is... I don't know what happened, but that is sad, man. Too many people passing away these days.

Let's hope that never happens again. Let's go to Derek in Indiana. What's going on, Derek? Yo, Pat, what's up? Yo! Here we go! Here we go! Here we go!

Yo! Yo! Here we go! Here we go! What's going on, dude? Yo, I have a question. Yo! Dean Brick!

What's going on, man? All right. Fuck, marry, kill. Lambeau Field. Hinesfield. Gillette Stadium. Thank you, Derek. I appreciate that.

Let's go to Adam in Maine. What's going on, Adam? Good job. Hey. Hey, guys. How are you guys doing today? Not too shabby. How are you?

Yes. I'm doing great, man. Thank you so much, Pat, for making SmackDown 100 times better with your commentary. Whoa, whoa, whoa. I don't believe in that. And by the way, I just want to see Jake Paul get knocked the fuck out in the first round, man. Okay, against who? Jake Paul? You want to see Jake Paul getake poggin who's he fighting

floyd money mayweather oh okay okay it's logan paul yeah yeah who cares listen logan paul jake paul top promoters in the game same thing yeah i agree top promoters in the game right now jake jake i believe probably won a Logan Paul at this particular moment on the internet. And then in real life, Floyd is in common. And everybody's involved in this thing. So this is absolutely massive. The gotcha hat, I assume, sold two million of them as soon as he dropped that. They're at the top of that thing.

I do believe Floyd's going to win this. But A.J. Hawk said Logan Paul potentially knocks out Floyd Mayweather. Isn't that what you said? Just takes one is what he said. I did not ever say that. I would not ever say that. Logan Paul is going to be much bigger. They're going to let him be 190 pounds. I think that's his max.

Is that right? Yeah. No, he's not going to knock him out, obviously. Floyd, nobody can ever hit Floyd. We'll see what happens, man. But Jake and Logan, too, it feels like they're both competing with each other to be like the biggest influencers. So these guys are going to continue to try to one-up each other. You know what?

I actually, now, I've followed the Pauls here for a while because their business is unbelievable. But I feel like it's nice that they have actually combined. You know what I mean? Yeah. Like Logan, obviously, to bring Jake to that press conference, that is a combined effort there. Like, hey, let's go ahead and try to take this whole thing over.

And then Floyd, I think, potentially to your point, asked, hey, Connor, any way you could potentially get involved here? Let's just go ahead and take this to the moon. The amount of money they are going to rake in for this entire thing is absolutely unbelievable. But Floyd's going to win. And I think it's because Logan Paul, of the Paul brothers, I'm not

sure he's as dedicated to boxing as Jake is. I think Jake loves the game. I think he loves the boxing game. Logan, he has an incredible podcast. He does everything, and he's also going to fight Floyd fucking Mayweather. I mean, it's unbelievable. Because it's an exhibition,

do you think it might go to the scorecards and then they set up the second one to make it even bigger by chance? No, because Floyd's never lost. Floyd can't lose. But that's an exhibition. It doesn't matter how it doesn't count. If these odds are correct, Floyd's minus 100,000. Okay.

So maybe take the flyer on Logan Why not Let's get to a break Adam Thielen will join us on the other side Adam Thielen fresh off a Subpar podcast interview Where he said That Lambo stinks

Whoa We'll ask him about that and how his off season is going And what he's got going on in his life. Can't wait to chat with Thielen. He's always a good conversation, and he's got to answer some questions, because these Packers fans have already been through enough. All right? Thank you. With this

old Schefter-Rogers-Packers, he's gone, he's in, he's gone, he's gone. What's going on? Stuff. Can't do it anymore. Now you got Thielen coming out and being like, whoa, you think it's worse? Let me go ahead and... Let me thaw some gasoline out here. Oh, he stinks! Whoa!

Jay Hawk, join me. What up, everybody? We kick off Hour 3 with some breaking news via Ian Rappaport at Rappsheet is tweeting that the Jacksonville Jaguars are planning on signing Tim Tebow back.

Yeah! Tebow back. Tebow back. He's playing tight and Tebow back, dude. Let's go. The Jaguars head coach Urban Meyer, who coached Tim Tebow at the University of Florida when they had a lot of success together and just bought a house right next to Tim Tebow is allegedly going to sign Tim Tebow within the next week to their tight end room Trevor Lawrence is the quarterback

Timmy Tebow is the tight end Urban Meyer is the head coach and Schlegel is the strength and conditioning guru Look out for the Jags to win the next 6-7 Super Bowl I have no idea how Tim Tebow is going to be as a tight end I would assume he's going to do well I feel like he is a very athletic person I think he could always catch well I'm not sure if that was ever the problem His throwing motion was called into question

On a very regular basis with a lot of outcomes of his throws being 6 to 10 yards off potentially. He goes into baseball. Succeeds. Okay. Had a successful professional career. Never made the majors, but he did play AAA. Hit a couple bombs. Now he's back in football

in a locker room. I'd assume Urban Meyer's like, if he wants to play tight end, cool. Let's go ahead and just get him in here this guy we want to build foundation around i assume they're not going to be skipping otas especially with what theeland just said about the minnesota vikings going back to the building next week tim tebow down there it's a beautiful thing i'm pumped up about this aj hawk i mean i think everyone's pumped up aren't they do you know any of the other tight ends on the roster there in Jacksonville? What does it look like?

What's this competition look like? Well, there is no competition. It's Tim Tebow. That's right. Okay, so T-E-1, T-E-Bow. Okay, so that's, I think, how it's going to go. Who knows if he's going to make the roster? Who knows if he's going to be good, honestly?

He's going to have to play. Hey, if he wants to make the roster, though, Pat, he's going to have to play special teams most likely. Tight end will probably have to play special teams unless he's T-E-1. If he's tight end one, he doesn gonna have to play hey if he wants to make the roster though pat he's gonna have to play special teams most likely tight end probably have to play special teams unless he's te1 if he's tight end one he doesn't have to but if he's backup tight end would have to be probably in some sort of special team which by the way urban meyer he expects a lot of people to play special teams i think that's kind of his thing the nfl is a bit different but he has been you know trying to take a little bit of that mentality to the nfl i think Urban Meyer's going to do well. Why do I think that? I have no idea why I think that, to be honest.

But I just, I think I think he's going to do well. And I think getting Tebow in the building is a good idea. And this is just me hanging out with Tebow one time. Two times, actually. In the lobby. How you doing? Keep it moving. Oh, yeah.

National Championship. Full dap up. How you doing? Comes over, chats with us, okay? So this lobby, we're invited down there to do college game day, and then the simulcast or whatever where we run around the field, Steve Levy, Dan Orlovsky, Adam and me, and just kind of run around and do our thing.

But the lobby was like a – it was one of those events that you go to. Sure. You know what I mean? Oh, okay. Black time. Toity, toity. Yeah, it was like a bourgeoisie of sports media diner. You know what i mean okay black time yeah it was like a booze a bourgeois sea of sports media diner you know what i mean now i was potentially on cloud 40 to 50 you know sleeveless

down there there's a lot of mingling going on handshaking people are doing their thing we just sat down at this one table we're watching tv having a good time place is packed t-bone his crew are walking through. Literally, and this is no exaggeration, looks over, just beelines right for me and Foxy. And I'm literally sitting there like, is Tebow coming to us right now? Comes right over.

Full dap up, full conversation. Tebow, great to see you. Says he loves following along with what we're doing. I return a favor to him. And then he leaves and he walks away. And everybody in there had to be like, how'd fucking Stooge McAfee, how is he the only guy Tebow came and talked to? Because you've got to remember, ESPN was ran by Tim Tebow.

For a long time, Tim Tebow and LeBron James were ESPN. Him getting back in the building, from my interactions, is good for the building. Will he make the team? I think we have no idea, AJ. Yeah, we have no clue what he's going to be like as a tight end what he's yeah how he moves now you assume he still moves great he looks good he's been in shape for a long time yeah there's not gonna i don't think there's like any negative outcomes of bringing tim tebow into your locker room like he's only

going to spread some positivity with guys well tebow mania there became a thing where teams weren't interested i think and that never gets talked about. You know, like when Tim went to Philly and New England and New York. It's your backup. You don't want to have your other players on the team answer questions about your backup. Bingo. That's what I'm saying. And I've talked about this at length. People might not like this, but this is just how the NFL is.

If you are potentially labeled a distraction or considered a distraction, it is very difficult for that label to get off because all anybody's trying to do is win games. Now, granted, be who you can afford to be definitely weighs in there. You know what I mean? Like, if you can do that and you do what you got to do.

But for Tebow, and I don't think this was his fault, by the way. Now, granted granted he was really good seemed to be like the greatest human of all time but the media hype around him everywhere he went I think it got to the point in the NFL where everybody's like we're not bringing this guy like the Patriots they even had to answer questions about it you know and Bill Belichick's like I'm not talking about the blah that whole thing it's just I don't know if it's going to still be like that right now I don't think it's a bad thing because the world is much more like that and the Jaguars might be trying to, you know,

Trevor Lawrence is already a superstar, so it's not like he's sitting on any Trevor Lawrence media or anything like that. But I think he was labeled a distraction at the end of his first run in the NFL. I don't think it would have ever been like as glorious as, you know, I don't think it would have been like an incredible, I'm not saying he would have won on to win Superbowls and all this shit. But I think towards the end,

it was like, nah, let's keep them out of here. But I think him going in there is good. It won't be a distraction. I'm not sure. I think we'll see. And my question would be how,

how quickly will, will the Jags know, like if he's going to make the team or not, they'll, they'll probably know before they put pads on. Well, we talked about this last week, Urban and, uh, Tim. Yeah. Yeah. Come on. They'll probably know before they put pads on. Well, we talked about this last week. Urban and Tim were playing.

Yeah, come on. They're neighbors. That's right. Urban can still sling that thing, right? Didn't we? Yeah. We put up some film on Urban throwing that thing around. Spinning it.

He can spin it. So he probably got a pretty good feel, you know what I mean? Probably back shoulder on old Tim. I assume if he knows he's signing Tim, he's thinking Tim's going to have at least 65 catches, 1,000 yards, and 10 touchdowns next year. I mean, we're not fucking around here. What are we bringing him in for?

I'm serious. Why are you putting those expectations on? Can you imagine? James O'Shaughnessy is the tight end for the Jags. He has a career 88 receptions. The other three tight ends have a combined 14. So Tebow's getting repped. He's catching the ball.

James had 28 for 262 last year, O'Shaughnessy. Plus, they're neighbors. You think Urban's going to want to walk out of his front lawn, grab the paper, and have Tebow staring at him like a coach. Tim's going to be the halftime entertainment, too. He's going to dance on top of the water of those pools. No, okay. Listen, enough with the Jackie Moose stuff.

He does not deserve that, what you just did there. He threw in Jesus, too, though. He's going to dance on top of the water. He kind of tied everything together. Yeah, but hold on. Easterby, I mean, listen, that's his gimmick. We know that. Tim Tebow He's going to dance on top of the water. He kind of tied everything together. Yeah, but hold on. Easter bee. I mean, listen, that's his gimmick. We know that.

Tim Tebow's not going to infringe on anything. But Tim Tebow, even if he goes on to become like an assistant or back, you know what I mean? Like maybe he was, oh, I remember I love football. This is why I'm here. That whole thing, you know? I think that's what Urban's hoping. I think Urban's hoping like like listen boss con

he might stink okay i threw the ball to him in the backyard he couldn't catch a thing maybe maybe he's like that but when he gets in here imagine him and schlegel okay imagine him and schlegel as a tag team motivating these boys to go out there and win some games has schlegel met him yet has he talked to him you you also potential insider to that situation as well let's see if you hold off here on any information that could help the show. Has Schlegel talked to Thiebaud? Has Thiebaud reached out for the conditioning

program yet? I don't think he's talked to Thiebaud yet. I think I told you on the show last week, I texted Schlegs and told him, Thiebaud said he's going to out squat you and double your deadlift, which Schlegel is like a deadlift champion. Nine hours later, when he got out of the weight room slag just texted me ha ha ha ha like 700 times hey that guy's awesome huh oh yeah oh yeah he's doing great he is i've said it before he is

in his element motivating dudes down there just putting individual plans together for each each individual player like he's yeah, he's invested. Did you know this is what he wanted to do? And I should know more about this guy. Paisan, I apologize. I got one text message from you. It was one of the best text messages I've ever gotten in my entire life. Did he go in the NFL?

Yeah, he was a third-round pick to the Jets. Play? Yeah, he played there, and he played in Cincinnati, somewhere else, bounced around for a little bit. I don't know exactly how many years he played, but, yeah, rock hard hit. And then, oh, like you. No, no. Schlegs is another level.

Talk to any offensive lineman that came through Ohio State during Schlegs' time. So he had to transfer in from the Air Force Academy, so he had to register to year. So he played scout team defense and just gave concussions to all of our offensive linemen, like running backs, fullbacks. Like he couldn't take on a lead because Schlegs was putting dudes out. So he was a crown of the helmet, you know, old school USA, be pre-USA football guy.

I mean, he's hitting you with every part of his head. Okay, so good player. Okay, he's not going into the Hall of Fame, but had a great career. At what point did you know, like, this guy's going to be a good strength coach? Was that all along? Was he always, like, gigantic meathead with a super shovel head as well? Well, yeah. He actually grew up working out with Ronnie Coleman, like, nine-time Mr. Olympia down in Texas.

So Schlage has been known Ronnie forever. And there's videos of Ronnie lifting. That's, like, Schlegs would go. He wears the boots and cut-off jean shorts and deadlifts 985 at a time. That's just who he is. What's that gym in Columbus they have that documentary about? You know who I'm talking about. I know.

Louis Simmons. He's the guy. It's like a bulldog or something. I don't know why I just blanked on it. Louis Simmons is the the guy like the architect of that whole you might get kicked out of columbus yeah like that's what it felt like while i was watching this documentary so this gym it's this west side barbell west side barbell yeah that's probably it and is that the guys that's it oh thank you now that he said it i remember yeah

of course there's a documentary about it they. I guess they've created like four or five of the strongest humans on earth or whatever out of this one gym, and it's just meathead city. It's bricks. There's no lights, really. People go in there. He said that at one point somebody tore their ACL or something or something was bleeding, and they forced them to go back in there and finish their squat or their deadlift or whatever.

It's like this legendary place yeah i i wonder you know long-term effects of that but i would love i would love to be able to be one of those people dude there's some people that are like addicted to lifting weights and like going going absolutely i've tried in my head to get to that point numerous times i'm like how cool would it be to just put like three hours a day in and try to see if i could have the strongest legs of all time which is what they have what you have to do there yeah in in like the upper body they do that entire thing people have broken their arms and they had to do stuff or whatever that is a really fascinating thing you got to beat the fuck out of yourself to do that schlegel is addicted to it huh he like loves the gym loves

absolutely crushing weights and everything like that yeah he loves just motivating people too like that's that's like his calling so that's why and i think they've had plenty of people in their facility working out too over the last month and a half so he's got to to kind of who knows how close he can get to them but he can put plans together for okay so we can cover two things there do you want to cover how close somebody can get to somebody or the amount of people that are at the building first aj do amount of people there okay so we'll cover the the how close people can get bob sala had somebody hug zach wilson because they couldn't get close to him to see how big of a person he was before uh when they were doing a virtual workout to see if they thought his upper body was big enough to handle the NFL. Had Fred Warner, former BYU stud, I believe, who was a friend of Bob's.

Bob Sala says, hey, Fred, can you go hug Zach? We got a little bit of worry about him being a child. You know what I mean? And Fred gives him a hug, I guess, and says, nah, he's good. He feels like about Patrick Mahomes or whatever. They're like, okay, cool. They go on when they couldn't be around each other. They had to send in secret agent hugs by Fred Warner there.

And that would be a mountain close. Did you hear about this, AJ? This is news to me. This makes sense, though. But, hey, it's a lot of pressure on Fred Warner if Zach Wilson doesn't hold up. How many people did he hug before the Zach Wilson hug to gauge how big a hug should be? You know what I mean? How many hugs did he do?

Was it both arms? Think about it, though. Both arms, or did you dap him up with one arm? What did you do? Fred probably has his wife. Come here, let me see. All right. All right, so that's too small.

And then he has, like, maybe friend. That's real big. That's real big. Okay. Average-sized st stooge can you come here okay so that's about it right there so and then he walks over to Zach you know walks over to Zach

he's like hey what's going on man come on in okay we're in business here congrats you're a jet pal alright see you later man have a good one that's pretty much how it went come on in. Oh, okay. We got, we're in business here. Congrats. You're a jet pal. All right. See you later, man.

Have a good one. That's probably what happened. That's pretty much how it went. Yeah. Go for Zach Wilson. Good body. Fred Warner. Hell of a hugger.

Yeah. You also think Zach was like, man, what, why the hell are you hugging me? Fred? No, the bodies.

Everybody knows. Everybody knows Fred's the best mother hugger. You know, he's, if you need a hug done, Fred will get the job done. Call Fred. So we're not going to talk about that then. Okay, so that's close.

That was that story. The amount of people. Allegedly, there's 50 people at the Patriots OTAs right now. Hell yeah. There's people in Jacksonville. We just heard from you. You broke that news because Schlegel Thielen said, it seems like we're probably going back to the building next week. This all comes after a Tom Brady speech uh allegedly on a call that was telling everybody not to do that so

just like we had thought it was going to be very difficult to get everybody on the same page even though there have been calls for that from the highest inside the NFLPA that was just never you know reasonably going to happen I don't think and now it's like kind of coming to that point although I do believe uh that the players had a point where they thought the lead up to the season was much better than an OTA, completely off, then all the way back on for their bodies. So maybe this will spur some change down the road, hopefully. But this ain't going to change, and we knew that, right?

There was no way. Valiant effort, okay? Valiant effort, but we knew this wasn't going to happen, AJ. Well, especially with Tom coming out and making the statement that they need to kind of stick together. I thought that could gain some traction. Me too. But the problem, I feel like the damage is already done.

You can't put the old toothpaste back in the tube, can you, Pat? Once you already have 40, 50 guys in there, you're not going to convince all of them to stop going. You know, because toothpaste, although it is a little thicker substance substance it won't hold together enough for you to push it back in just like this situation there's already 50 people in new england so and there's people other places i guess so you go three days or two days however many days it has been that they've been there this speech is heard and they're like oh fuck okay we gotta bounce out but we also the people that opted out last year did all basically get cut you see the coaches the coaches are standing at the exit like oh what's up guys where are we going

what are you doing we've got two hours left today hey i haven't slept at home for the last four months waiting for the step okay i've been watching drills on top of drills on top of drills of how we can make you the best you you could possibly be on the field. Because although you might like time off and at home, I don't. That's why I'm a coach. So I love that we're fucking doing these OTAs again. And especially after last year, all that Zoom shit, uh-uh. We got laser pointers

back. We got fucking dry erase boards. We got a lot of shit, pal. Let's go ahead and have a good time this OTAs. Here we go. Hey, here we go. Here we go. Here we go. You want to go home and be with your family? Oh, is that nice for you?

That's nice for you. I don't want to do that. No. I want to coach you up. I want to win a Super Bowl. You know Lombardi? Have you heard of Lombardi? That's what I want to do.

Yeah. Yeah. Finish. That's what coaches are doing. Oh, yeah. Well, and one of the special teamers for New England, when teams started opting out, they said, hey, look, if Bill tells us to report, we're going. Yeah.

And we kind of saw that all along. Hey, Pat, what you just did, that was just like a – that was an accurate representation of a lot of coaches when you come back for the first day of off-season workouts when all of a sudden they got 47 new drills that they traveled around the country that they found that we're going to do. And none of them ever work. And you always go back to what you just did before. Well, I thought it was going to work.

You know, you can see how I could think maybe a little bit of shit. You get your eyes in the right spots, right? But apparently it doesn't work. We could have never known that. But let's move along here. We'll go back to the basics. Let's go. Three counts.

Yeah. Here we go. Here we go. Here we go. Because they only have like 15 minutes. So they're about to have a heart attack because they're trying to get everything in. And then it doesn't work. And then the equipment managers, by the way, who were tasked with setting up all the pads in a – He's been having them practice that, too, for the last two and a half months

that the players aren't there. A specific way. Hey, as soon as it moves, you need it right back as soon as it moves. You can watch those, too. We need somebody watching these, too. All right, and the quarterback tackle thing, we need that thing to be in the this exact spot here okay because they're going to come around the corner so if it moves at all we need that to be moved back and the equipment managers are like oh fuck this drill is going to stink first person

goes through kicks the pad kicks the pad tackles the thing slides then you got the equipment managers moving it and the coach has just been waiting like let's go we've talked about this those are awesome i love it I used to watch all those. They were awesome. Hey, that's like, I don't know why it's so funny to me, because I've lived through that. I think 10 off seasons, I lived through that same situation. It's beautiful.

Like, I've seen a lot of them. It's the poor equipment guys I feel bad for. They're the ones that get the brunt of it. That's who I hear the stories from, by the way. So, like, I'll watch a new drill or whatever's happening, and then me and Vinny are like, oh, that was was interesting and then later in the middle of practice you know after we got all our work done you know all of it can't punt four thousand times what do you want us to do dude it's a three-hour practice what the fuck you know we can only do so much so halfway through practice you walk over to the equipment managers it's like hey saw individual

drill man that was a fucking uh shell. They're like, was it? I got an email last night telling me this is the exact amount of feet that these bags need to be away from each other. Because these coaches, every little thing, you know, hey, there's going to be no stone unturned. We're going to get the edge as much as we can. Those are people that are addicted to winning, addicted to football. Their entire life revolves

around it that's why anytime a player gets into it i'm like okay they must love the game because when you're a coach in the nfl you either got to act like you're doing stuff or do stuff 21 hours every single day and there's only so many jobs for that entire thing you know and they love those off-season workouts golly that was awesome. You guys, these guys having to go through these bullshit drills. It's so mad. Just so mad. And then they're yelling at them. Hopefully you have a couple of vets at least,

and you can just kill your coach telling them, oh, where'd you pick this one up, Texas A&M? They always travel around and watch different things. I remember different coaches would go to Texas A&M when Johnny Manziel was there, when defensive coaches would try to learn how do you stop the zone read and the RPO situation. And then they would have these unbelievable plans that they would learn at these different college campuses.

That's awesome. Just thinking of like six, seven, eight-year vets listening to this coach. Like, I saw this down at Texas A&M. We're going to try it out. Get the fuck out of here. By the way, they were right, though. Like, they were, hey,&M we're going to try it out. Get the fuck out of here. By the way they were right though. Like they were hey these RPOs are going to come. We used to do play action but the RPO is going to come.

I think now I honestly believe that like for instance Tony Fields we talked to him before the draft. He got picked 193 or something. Wow. If that was accurate I will walk it off. I don't know if 193. It can't be.

Can we find out when Tony Fields was drafted? 153rd. Oh, man. Middle. 1-5-5-9. How do I fuck that one up? I was on a lot of edibles that day when he got drafted. Anyways, he's basically...

As opposed to others, but yeah. Yeah, but draft day, I mean, I was on a lot of edibles that day when he got drafted. Anyways, he's basically – As opposed to others, but yeah. Yeah, but draft day, I mean, I was – It was tough to get through that. Had to enjoy it a little bit. But he basically grew up in the whole RPO world. I think he's like ready for it. I think these younger linebackers, which means – That's all they know.

Which means there's going to be a change then, right? There's going to be a change then. Go back to grinding pod. It's going to happen, right? I don't know if it's going to be a change then, right? There's going to be a change then. Go back to Grime and Bond. It's going to happen, right? What do you think? I don't know if it's going to happen, man, because quarterbacks, you're not all of a sudden just going to go to statue quarterbacks that are all 6'7 and stand in the pocket.

Well, Matt Jones. That's right. Who? He's walking. He's got a touchdown, man. Dude got a touchdown this pro day. They ran a 4-6-8. Come on.

Give the guy a break. He did. I forgot he caught that. Yeah, he went up and got that. That was a Navy play. That was a real throwback directly at Belichick. And they were saying, hey, listen, people saying I'm an unathletic stooge. Look at me.

Watch this. And also look at this guy. Look how much fun he's having out there. He called that play. Oh, he lost again. Yeah. Jeez. His shirt even stayed tucked in.

Really? Oh, yeah. Lucky for him. I wonder if Bill Belichuk has seen the videos of matt jones having a good time in college and just thought to himself man we're all there we'll sever up up here yeah so sorry to interrupt but i want to let you know that if you're not gambling with fandle you're wrong okay fandle sportsbook is available in seven states,

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A man who has been our generations inside yeah it looks like he's potentially going to step into tomorrow's insider waters in a rapid way because he's already been shaking the entire thing up ladies and gentlemen a man who works for the athletic He also works for the Stadium Network. He is also a man who is very dialed in in the NBA and in the NFL, if need be. Ladies and gentlemen, the incredibly handsome insider to the insiders, Shams Sharani. Yeah, Shams! What's goingiders, Shams Sharan. What's going on, Shams? What's up, guys? How you guys doing? You guys good? Well, we're trying to get a hold of you there.

We didn't call you until I had already started your intro, so I just said a lot of really good things about you, but you deserve all of them, Shams. NBA playoffs are happening. You're breaking news in the rap game as well.'s talk about jay cole then let's get into the nba playoffs a little bit shams what's going on with jay cole how'd this whole thing work out let's do it so for i spoke to jay cole's manager this morning and he told

me that jay cole's been doing a five-week boot camp training camp uh over the last five weeks he's been working with david west um several former uh you know nba player gary clark who just got cut by the denver nuggets jerome robinson who's played in the nba guys that you know are able to help help him really prepare for an opportunity like this he's worked out with a trainer omar kanani who actually works full-time with several nba players as well so in j cole's mind you know it's interesting, the timing, right? He's going to play his first pro game on Sunday. He drops his album on Friday, but his

camp wants to make it known, and his camp wants to make it clear, though, that it isn't a gimmick, that he is serious about playing basketball. He's serious about hooping. He's played ball. It just so happened that the timing, I mean, the timing did work out pretty perfect for him. I think so. I think so too

it is amazing and shout out to J. Cole I love it I hope he plays well if he plays well in the Basketball Africa League for the Rwanda Patriots is there a chance he potentially moves into G League maybe or maybe into the NBA

or has that not been thought about Pat you're right on point. So what I'm told is he had conversations with G League teams. This is going back right before the G League bubble. So right now he's in the basketball African League bubble, which is also going to be a quarantine itself. He's in the midst of a – he's finishing up a four-day quarantine. He gets out of quarantine tomorrow.

But it's just like, you know, the's uh bubble as far as when they were in orlando and when they played the g league in orlando as well and so he did have conversations i can't confirm there were some conversations held with him in the g league if he plays well on a couple 20 point games you never know put him on the pacers dude who's not gonna win we'll have fun let him by the way if he wraps at halftime, fucking great news for Indiana. I mean, that would be beautiful. I can't wait to see what he does. Go ahead, AJ. Hey, I'm curious about LeBron and his situation moving into the playoffs and also his whole idea of the play-in game and Adam Silver.

What's the relationship like? What's the rumors going around about it? So I'll answer the second part first. I think LeBron and Adam Silver's relationship, they're on a call basis. Like if if lebron needs to speak to adam he'll reach out to adam directly and vice versa so i don't think it's anything against them but listen let's let's look at it for what it is i think the playing tournament was a great idea to make sure those teams in the bottom half of the conferences are really given some incentive to keep playing and you see tanking go on year in and year out i think this

kind of stops that now you have a bunch of teams below the eight playoff seed you have nine ten in both conferences and even 11 and 12 really fighting for that playing spot and i think that's only a positive for the league so it's tough that lebron james's team the lakers will probably be in that playing situation but at the end of the day, if they weren't, he probably would have a different tone. So I know the Warriors, for example. What are you saying, Sean? Steph Curry, the Warriors, they're welcoming this playing tournament from what I'm told.

They can't wait until they get in this playing round, which might be against the Lakers. So you're seeing a couple different types of mindsets here. The Lakers are more, you know, they're known. And last year they were at the top of the Western Conference. This year not so much because of injuries. Anthony Davis finally looks like he's back like himself. And LeBron James, as I reported this morning,

he is targeting his return for tomorrow against the Knicks. Okay, here we go. If not, he will return on Wednesday. So LeBron James will be back either against the Knicks tomorrow or the Rockets on Wednesday. Is that in New York? That's in L.A. They got two games back-to-back in L.A.

Oh, yeah. If that was in New York, I think he goes full go there. But since it's in L.A., he'll just kind of chill and wait that out. Who's going to win this? Are the Lakers going to win this or the Nets? I heard the Nets were potentially in a little bit of trouble. They were losing games. But weren't people paying teams to get out of contracts to get to the nets right now and how do you see this whole thing shaping up

i mean they were lamarcus aldridge blake griffin these are major all-star type guys that that gave up money on the table lamarcus aldridge gave up closer to six million seven million on the table to get a buyout to go to the Brooklyn Nets. He ends up obviously retiring because of health issues. Then Blake Griffin, he gives up upwards of $10, I think $13 million to go play for the Nets. So they've been able to get talent. Now it's just about putting it back and getting everyone on the same page.

The return of James Harden is the biggest thing, Pat, that I'm looking at. When will that be? He said last week he will come back before the end of the regular season. Well, he has a couple games. I would really start his clock on Wednesday when the team is back at home against San Antonio and see if can he come back now that they're back at home. Go ahead, Gumpy. Shams, if it's not the Lakers coming out of the West because they can't get healthy,

do you think it's the Clippers or do you think somebody else comes out of the West? I mean, I think it's wide open. I think if you look at Phoenix, Utah, I really think this is the year. Denver, right? If Jamal Murray was healthy, Will Barton was healthy, I might pick them as my favorite to win it all. Of course, those guys are out, so it's tough, but they're still able to win games,

which to me probably solidifies solidifies yoke as the mvp but i really believe that this year this nba is wide open because even out east if james harden kevin durant kairi ervin can't get on that same page come playoff time they've only had six five six games under the belt is that enough and can milwaukee could could philadelphia beat them and go to the NBA Finals? I think this year it is wide open, and LeBron James will be back. I'm told he's had a couple good workouts, but how will he look once he's back? That's what we're wondering. That's what we're wondering. That's what we're wondering.

That's what we're wondering. Because if he's not 90% LeBron James, 100% LeBron James, I can't see how this team is beating the Clippers in a playoff series. They need LeBron James. Hey, why are they kicking – do they hate German people in the NBA? Why did they kick Luka out for that bullshit? Come on. Why are they doing – what is the – what's the process of that whole thing?

What's the fallout there? I mean, that was trash, dude. That guy deserves to play. He loves sport, man. He loves basketball. And they're taking the game away from him for something like that? What a bunch of bullshit. I say,

nine. That's an NFL hit. That's an NFL hit. You can't just chop down at someone's groin area in the NBA. Come on, Pat. Oh, yeah. I didn't see it, to be honest with you. But I did hear that there was a lot of backlash potentially. I thought I was taking a stand for people, and it turns out I was wrong.

What do you have, Connor? Yeah, show them. Since you are the insiders of the NBA, have you been able to see Space Jam 2 yet and what can we expect here? I'm shocked. I haven't seen it yet. It's not German. Yeah, also,

I was going to say, Pat, Luca's not German. Yeah, Alex, you're dark, dude. Pat, Luca is not German. That was a jerk, dude. Okay. He's got the soccer touch of a German player. Unbelievable the way he plays out there, dude. I am so sorry. Just get to it, will you, Sean? Space Jam 2, I have not seen it, but I've heard it's nice.

I have heard Damian Lillard has a major role in the movie. Here we go. Hulu doesn't just have live sports. It's a lifestyle. Hey, he's a great rapper. He is. Oh, yeah, Dame Dahl. Big playoffs for Portland too, Pat, because you look at Dame,

he needs to start winning. And I think he's starting to feel that if I can't get a winner here, are we making the right moves? Are we doing the right things around this franchise? So where do you think he's going to end up at? Lakers? Is that what you're saying? He's on three, four-year max deal after this.

I'm just saying, if Portland loses round one, you look at their coaching staff, you look at some of the roster moves, if they don't start tweaking things around Damian Lillard, I think you might start to hear him be a little more vocal. Oh, man. Madison Square Garden. What if he comes in Zion, by the way?

Zion says he loves New York. Aside from New Orleans, I love playing in New York, he said. Zion in New York would be insane. Is there any groundwork being done for that or no? I mean, Pat, there's never been a player, a rookie player, that's passed on a max contract extension, which Zion Williamson will get in his hand. That's going to end up being, what, five years, 200?

I mean, I don't see any way he's passing on a max rookie extension. So, no. Could it happen after that? Well, can they get in the game then, Sean? Can you tell them, like, hey, let's go. Let's bring Dame Dollar down. Like, hey, if he's getting upset, let's get him down here. Hey, Blake, instead of paying $13 million to go to the Nets,

come relearn how to play basketball in New Orleans. Like, are they going to do that? Or is it just like Zion's just going to sell tickets for them for a while and then he's going to end up going somewhere to win? No, I mean, as far as New Orleans, they're going to try to add talent. But at the end of the day, that's not a market that's going to be going and attracting free agents. They have Brandon Ingram. a market that's going to be going and attracting free agents. They have Brandon Ingram.

Lonzo Ball is going to be a restricted free agent. He could leave as a free agent. So they're going to have some decisions to make this summer. Can't lose, though. Can you text them and tell them, can't do that? We need to bring a whole team there. Go ahead, Ty. Sean, speaking of Zion, what the hell is going on?

I mean, their VP is saying, hey, listen, everyone's hacking him. This is violence I haven't seen since Shaq was in his prime. He's got a broken finger. I mean, are they going to – Take care of their stuff? Yeah, are they going to officiate Zion differently? What type of league we got over there? Just going to let him get abused out there.

You got Luka getting kicked out for nothing. Zion's getting beat up. It's unbelievable. I don't know if this is more of a Zion thing or just a league-wide thing. I think I have heard GMs and other people on the league really upset at the officiating. I think that's going on all across the league. I think David Griffin coming out and saying what he said, I think that was more to support his guy Zion.

Because honestly, if you look at a clip where Zion injured his finger, where he fractured his ring finger, that actually happened on a play where he was going for an offensive rebound. So to say that he got hurt because of officiating when he's going up for an offensive rebound, obviously I don't know where that coincides. But you're David Griffin. You are the executive VP. He can take that 50K fine, which the NBA gave out over the weekend.

So he's 50K lighter in the checkbook. But at the end of the day, he needed to make sure he stood up for his guy because that's been, it's been a pretty disappointing year in New Orleans. And if David Griffin doesn't have the support of his star franchise players, I think, you know, those guys are going to start looking around too.

Well, Zion was shooting like 90% or something this year. Oh yeah. He's unbelievable. He's so good. There was people out there saying he wasn't going to make it in college. And then there was people saying he wasn't going to make it in the NBA. He's an anomaly.

He's going to make it. Go ahead, Diggs. Shams, any chance the Jazz or Sun rest all their players for the rest of the year so that they fall a few spots and don't have to play the Lakers in the first round? Oh, super – I was literally talking about that with someone around the Suns yesterday. Just kind of joking. Kind of joking.

Like, would you guys, wrestling players, get – because the Lakers beat them without LeBron James. So that's a bad sign. You've got to get below so you don't have to play them. But, no, I don't see them wrestling. Donovan Mitchell and Mike Conley most likely will continue to miss time going into the playoffs. But I don't think they're going to be intentionally tanking.

At least I'm not sure it's intentional. Shubbs, what kind of job do you think Steve Nash has done? He steps in year one as a head coach with this super team. Are we not going to know really what kind of coach he is until years down the road? I think you're going to first see how Steve Nash is as a coach during the playoffs. I think that's where the Nets and even Milwaukee,

I think Mike Budenholzer in Milwaukee, these guys are going to be judged. Budenholzer? He's going to be judged in the playoffs. And if those guys aren't able to get it done in the playoffs, the microscope shifts to them. And I think Mike Budenholzer, he's been there for four years, five years. So the judgment will be a little harsher on him.

Whereas if Steve Nash fails this first year, I think there'll be a little bitarsher on him whereas if steve nash fails this first year i think there'll be a little bit of leeway because of everything that's going on but listen steve nash isn't able to make the right adjustments call timeouts at proper timings he's going to get that same type of critique as well i've been saying budenholzer needs to watch it he's going to lose his job if the bucksucs don't win it this year, unfortunately. Okay, well, I mean, that's a little negativity. Don't need that. Shams, you're the absolute best, dude.

Appreciate you guys as always, Pat. Following your lead, man. Keep working, man. No, we're following your lead because you're an insider, okay? You're right there at the tip of the storm. We're just kind of following behind the whole thing. We appreciate you for your service, pal. Appreciate you guys.

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, Sean Serrano. And stop! Can't thank you enough for choosing to listen to this show. The fact that you do every single day makes no sense to me, but I'm grateful for it. I enjoy the hell out of our time together.

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