The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 412 - People Are Pissed Tebow Is Going To The Jags, Putin Lights Lamps, Darius Butler, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: May 11, 2021

On today's show, Pat and the boys chat about everyone being pissed Tim Tebow for potentially signing with the Jags, the latest update in the Aaron Rodgers drama, Vladimir Putin putting on an absolute show on the ice last night in Russia, and everything else going on around the NFL. Joining the show is 9 year NFL veteran at DB, host of the Man-To-Man Podcast, Everything DB, friend of the program, Darius Butler to chat about why he thinks the country of the NFL wouldn't stand a chance in the Olympics, his thoughts on Tebow going to Jacksonville and why he thinks it could actually work out, and much more (21:31-46:40). Later, Pat and AJ chat more about Tebow going to Jacksonville, reports coming out that people within the Jaguars building aren't happy about the move, Pat and AJ up their bet to $20 million if Pat finishes top 40 of a Champions Tour event before he turns 65, and everything else going on in the sports world (48:12-1:43:34). Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow and listen every day on Mad Dog Radio, Sirius XM Channel 82. We appreciate you all for listening, come and laugh with us, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello, it is Tuesday, May 11th. Can't thank you enough for choosing to listen to this dumbass show. Ain't that right, Ty? Yeah, a lot of nonsense today. Today, good conversations. Today, you're going to walk out of listening to this show, you're going to be like, that's that show. Yeah, and everyone really is mad at T-Bone. Everyone's mad at T-Bone. Good conversation. Can't thank you enough for joining us. If you enjoy this show, by the end of it, please be a friend and tell a friend. I don't think it's going to be likely

with today's episode, but if you do enjoy by the end of it, please be a friend and tell a friend. If not, just act like it never happened. And this is not normal. I mean, kind of, but this one is a ridiculous show. Chalk it up to the game. This is one of those shows where we have a bunch and some of them just get fucking absurd.

Yeah. What are you going to do? Gotta do it. We'll get back on track with another large one tomorrow. Hey, large one tomorrow. Alright, let's get to it. What's the big news for today? Great question. Let me tell you. People are

pissed about Tim Tebow going to the Jacksonville Jaguars. Tim Tebow is catching all types of shots from people all over the world right now. Not only are, you know, pundits on TV questioning whether or not he has earned this opportunity, which, by the way, he earned Urban Meyer probably like $50 million while he was at College of Florida. So now listen, on the field as a tight end, hey, get his ass out of my, okay, if we're going strictly how is he as a tight end, we all assume he's going to stink.

There's a chance he's going to be really, really good. But Urban Meyer bringing Tim Tebow into the building at a position that he has never played before has ruffled some feathers. There's been Coach JB, obviously. He's not happy about this. I believe he called Tim Tebow and Urban Meyer both. These guys are fucking slapdicks. I mean, you can't find somebody fucking better than Tebow.

Coach JB is echoing the sentiments of a lot of people on TV, all over the internet. They are not happy that Tebow has gotten this opportunity ahead of other people. I can see why people get mad about that type of thing, but I don't think you're looking at it in the same fashion that we do. And by the way, we look at things as if everything's a movie too, by the way, and it's just characters.

So whenever Tebow says, hey, I'm thinking about dabbling back into the NFL, and then the conversation goes to the Jaguars, we all knew he was getting signed. As soon as we know he's getting signed, signed okay if this is what Tebow wants Urban Meyer and he probably have a relationship that's so tight and Urban Meyer by the way we have no idea how Urban Meyer is going to be as an NFL coach because he might fucking stink too we have no idea so we knew that was going to I think Urban and I've never talked to Urban Meyer the only time Urban Meyer and I have ever really talked to each other

is whenever he decided to take shots at me through the media, and then I had to answer back. He heard me. I heard him. We settled our differences through a mutual friend and said, we'll see you later, whatever, we'll move on. But I'm assuming he's just trying to get Tebow in the building. He just wants Tebow in the building.

And if he doesn't play well at tight end, we'll have him coach right there on the edge. We'll just say, hey, get back in the building. I assume that's what Urban Meyer is trying to do. But whatever the case, Tebow has ruffled everybody's feathers. People are coming out now and saying Tebow gets yet another opportunity in not calling Kaepernick. Now, I have been on the Kaepernick deserves a spot over a lot of people in the NFL at the quarterback position camp for a long time. I actually was super pumped he was going to have a workout with the NFL because

then if they choose not to sign him after that in video shows that he killed in there, then it's obviously even more people will be on Kaepernick's side of it. But people getting upset about Tebow getting signed as a tight end and not a quarterback in saying that he took a spot from Kaepernick or Kaepernick deserves another spot I don't think that is valid but I will say there should be a lot of tight ends out there that are looking for a job who they should be pissed potentially in this entire thing but you got to remember the NFL is a business that's the way it is operated it's not fair I wish it was it'd be a lot cooler if it was. I think we would all dream about that. But just like in every business, it is a relationship business.

And Tim Tebow has one in which he earned one guy a lot of money. He's now in charge of a place. And he wants to get back in the game. I have no idea how he's going to do. Ty said yesterday, maybe he has 16 touchdowns. Yeah, probably. I don't think it's crazy to think 1,000-plus yards. Maybe. 10 tutters. Maybe. Yeah, probably. I don't think it's crazy to think 1,000-plus yards. Maybe.

10 tutters. Maybe. 65 receptions. Oh, and look for the Russian touchdowns, too, when they put him in the back. Oh, yeah, a little end around. Yeah. There's a chance that could happen. There's also a pretty good chance that he's not even going to make this team.

Right. And when he doesn't make this team, does he become a coach? Does he become an assistant? Does he stay in the building? And is that Urban Meyer's plan all along? Who knows? But people are pissed off. At Boston, Connor, he was a member of your team up there in New England? And is that Urban Meyer's plan all along? Who knows? But people are pissed off. At Boston, Connor, he was a member of your team up there in New England.

How did that go? It was unbelievable. I think he played a couple games in the preseason. Really? And then we hit the road packing. But could you imagine if it doesn't work out at tight end and then they just move him to linebacker? Like, hey, let's just move him around the field and see where he works.

That's the conversation now. The conversation now is, and are they going to try to use him like Taysom Hill? They should. Is he Taysom Hill? Is he going to be covering kicks in this entire thing? The question leads from, does Tebow earn this opportunity? And it's like, you know, earned is in the eye of the opportunity giver. And that's just kind of how it all works.

And there is a lot of bullshit that happens out there. Uh, not only, you know, just in the NFL, but in the world through that entire thing. And I think, you know, if you look at the college admissions scandal, I think that documentary, I think that proves that it's, it's kind of something we all hate, which I would assume why the story is being so blown up because it's like the uh the networks it's not your net your net worth is dependent upon your network who do you know how do you know and where can he get and all that and now that it is obviously in the nfl happening with urban and tebow people are pissed off about it this happens everywhere not saying it right wish it wasn't right believe me

i come from a place my parents friends with nobody they fucking hate everyone there is there is no connections anything like i understand nowhere near what other people have had to experience i understand that but i'm saying i hate that just as much as everybody else but it's just the fact of life like that's just this is how the world goes tebow getting in there though with uh urban now it's led to the conversation of should he have changed his position a long time ago you know he was fighting it for so long here he is uh what six years out of the league eight years out of playing time nine years Should he have changed his position a long time ago? You know, he was fighting it for so long. Here he is, what, six years out of the league, eight years out of playing time, nine years out of playing time,

and he's deciding to go to tight end? Gets signed the first time he even tries it, gets into the NFL as a tight end. Has he been missing an opportunity this entire time? Would we have never got a chance to see old Tebow hop into that batter's box and swing some lumber if he had been playing tight end this entire time I guess we'll get a chance to see with Tebow looks like he's in the best shape for his life right now too I saw him on an IG live last night talking about fitness yeah I don't know if he would have you know been the all pro tight end if he started to do that a long time ago because we have seen Sanchez ring one off his dome when he ran a

little five yard out route but I did not expect to see players hate him so much. Yeah, but Devin Bush said, hey, can't wait to play Jacksonville. I was going to say, at this point, Tebow might be hoping he gets cut because Jacksonville is going to be circled every week and he's going to be taking the other team's best shot, it seems. People seem to be saying I am the picture of white privilege right now. So what I was wondering is, is there any way I could coach for a couple games and then we'll just kind of see how that goes? i'm a special advisor i do wonder if that's

gonna happen tebow ain't scared of a damn thing by the way no tebow has no idea his hate's coming by the way i honestly believe he comes in his world i think they i think he is in his own world i think it is a blinders operation probably i'm not 100 sure but i think so and this is obviously he and i played water poling together of course yeah i'm not sure good player many he is a good player he's got good form and that is almost kind of how you're throwing a football by the way yeah so that's why it was such a uh kind of a problem he was kind of built for beer punk imagine if tim tebow would have started going to parties back here in florida while they were winning and just showed up at the house and just started fucking plunk, plunk, plunk.

And then just walked out. I think he could have. He probably could have. Yeah, but people would have called elbows on him every time. Because if you saw, he was leaning. He was leaning. And by the way, there is every single edge to be taken when you're trying to win. Of course.

You're not cheating. You're not trying. And they're trying to live on the edge, by the way. Urban Meyer. That's potentially why it's happening. But I think he could have been good. He didn't do any of that. I don't think he does anything.

I think he gives sermons now. I don't even know if he has any idea what people are saying. No, I mean, it's just the complete lifestyle. And it's no bullshit. We've met him before. I think you're right. I think it's kind of if you're not in his aura or whatever, his light just kind of dims everything else out.

I don't know if he – he probably doesn't. He has no idea that the entire world is pissed off right now about him signing with the Jaguars. I honestly don't think he has any idea. I mean, I guess he still – I don't think he has any clue. No way. He still works at ESPN kind of, doesn't he?

So maybe he has some sort of idea, but – No, he's at SEC Network, I think, right? Isn't that what he does? Yeah. He goes on those Saturday shows or whatever, right? I don't know how much he does other than that. And I think he has the Tebow thing. Remember, I went to – not a big deal.

I was a Ray Guy finalist. Whoa. Should have won, to be honest with you. Not out of everybody in the country, but out of the people that were finalists, I definitely was the best. I shouldn't have been a finalist, though, if that makes sense. I don't think I should have been a finalist. There were others that were better than me. I was a finalist. I had

to travel all the way down to Orlando in the middle of the week, rent a suit, go do the whole thing. Sally, Tim had to get all dressed up, fancy, travel down there in the middle of the week. Miss Work would come down there. Did you go to Disney? Well, right. There was a torrential downpour.

No. A tornado. Couldn't go. No. First time I went to Disney was like two years ago or whatever. It was a cool place. I don't know how anybody goes there. Avatar world.

But the Avatar game was awesome. But I went down to an award show down there my senior year. And there was rules. There was strict rules. Who can be where? How many people can be in, how many people can be, how many people you can bring and all that shit. And we were sitting in one area and,

uh, Tebow had his entire team right over here. Tebow walked in with his entire team. How you doing? Keep him over right here. And we all just, by the way, um,

who were Colt McCoy was there. I think, uh, who else? AQ Shipley was there. Obviously that's where AQ and I really went out for the first time together. So it was pretty monumental evening. Yeah.

It was pretty big evening down there. We're the only two that went out. We came back and there was somebody that was checking, uh, everybody's rooms and they're like, uh, you were the last two. We're like, no way. So sorry. So sorry about that. But it was just like, and then whenever he went somewhere else, it was like, his people

were with him and his people, it was like his people were with him. It was like he has had, I think, people around him for a long time who I think have had his best interests in heart, by the way. I honestly believe it's a tight group, family members, I think. And ESPN was such a Tebow machine there for a while. I would assume that that team was also having a lot of conversations with him, so it kind of got his own thing. The SEC game day, I honestly believe it's just he with him. So he kind of got his own thing.

The SEC game day, I honestly believe it's just he comes in. He kind of just does his own thing now. I think so. I don't know if he has any idea what the real world is saying or doing. I have no clue. Because it seems like he is always, always, always. And you would assume that at some point, even Jesus had to be a little bit bummed about what people were saying.

Yeah, man. And Tebow, now granted, there's been a lot of love on Tebow, a lot of love on Tebow for a long time. Tebow's been loved, loved, loved. But there's also on the other side of that, a lot of hate on Tebow, a lot of hate on Tebow. I assume at this point they've figured out how to block it out, which is fascinating because the entire world hates him right now. Yeah.

It is. And by the way, Ben Affleck and Jennifer Lopez are back together. Oh, my God. Huh? Time is a circle, dude. A-Rod was disappointed to learn. Oh, yeah. Shocked.

Yeah. Shocked and disappointed. Damn, Shane. They had a family. Yeah. They were talking in February, apparently, too, now. We were hosting award shows together from our backyard. They were going to buy the Mets together.

Are you kidding me? Now he's got to settle for the T-Wolves. No J-Lo. No J-Lo. No Mets. Yeah, you get the fuck out of the Big Apple. Go to Minnesota, pal. Now listen, he's excited.

He is. And the guy playing, the Wookiee, he's my favorite basketball player. Anthony Edwards. Anthony Edwards, he's going to be an absolute stud over there. He's going to learn who A-Rod is probably through this entire thing. It's a shame J-Lo was doing that to him. I know. Whoa, whoa, whoa. We can't do what

Justin Timberlake did with Brittany back in the day after watching that Brittany doc. We don't know whose fault it was. That's right. A-Rod probably fucking around too. Yeah. Well, and they did say, listen, J-Lo and Ben's chemistry is outrageous. Off the charts. It's insane. It's not A-Rod probably fucking around too. Yeah. Well, and they did say, listen, J-Lo and Ben's chemistry is outrageous. Off the charts. It's insane.

It's not A-Rod. It's off the charts. I mean, it's meant to be. She saw Affleck burning through heaters and drinking Dunk, and she was like, fuck, I need him back. Give me that guy now. Anthony Edwards also super bummed for A-Rod. He said, you know, I wish that they were still together because obviously he'd be happier with J-Lo. Yeah, and Anthony Edwards is a good guy. Great guy. That's a good guy.

Big baseball guy. Big baseball guy. He actually said he could play every position. Used to bat 3-4. You know what that means. And then he later said Alright, let's move along. He didn't know anything about baseball. Yeah, no, I don't know anything. I don't know who he is. Alright, let's move along here.

Rap Report is re-reporting. Okay. Because this came out on May 6th, I guess. We did our research, right, Todd? Yeah. The athletic article or pieces from it. I don't know when the athletic article came out, but another article that that referenced was from May 6th. So it's been dating like the past week.

By the way, I don't think there's been a lot of conversation. dating like the past week. By the way, I don't think there's been a lot of conversation. Allegedly, the Packers have offered a long-term extension to Aaron Rodgers. And in that May 6th article, it said... Yeah, it said that it was bigger than Mahomes' contract. It'd make him the highest-paid player in the NFL. So what is that? But the terms were not released.

So we don't know how much it was or how long it was or anything like that. Okay, so let's say that's potentially happening and did Schefter maybe think oh they're going to get a deal done soon I got to get this bomb that they were potentially a little bit contentious out here early or is that all bunch of fougues right there is that what you just said coming from somebody who is once again trying to add to the story that we did everything we possibly could to make this happen because if that has happened to Aaron I would be very confused on why there is potentially anything going on if there is anything going on which

at this point we have no idea we'd assume there's potentially some conversations happening where there's disagreements which happens happens, by the way, every league, every team, basically, at some point, the two most powerful people on the team are probably going to have a disagreement at some point. I mean, that is something that's going to happen, especially when there's potentially hundreds of millions of dollars on the line and legacies on the line and strategies. You would assume there's a chance that there could be a little bit of a disagreement there, but this all might be through the negotiation on what is being asked for in the contract. Maybe. Now this is all, by the way,

we are 100% hypothetically speaking here, but maybe Aaron said, I would like a little bit of this or a little bit of this. And they said, no, can't have it. Then another agent said, hey, heard Aaron's asking for this, leaks the information to shepherd well he must be pissed about this like there's a chance okay that every single thing we have heard is true and then there's a chance that every single thing we have heard is complete bullshit and it's insane will we ever find out what has been going on and what has been going on in the actual truth around it all from anybody i wonder well and that's why i kind of thought it was fouguaze was because it was from May 6th. And, you know, we obviously have been following this stuff pretty closely.

And if I would have missed it. Not close enough. It would have definitely got sent to me. Like, I feel like I would have seen this. And something like that gets reported, I feel like every other, you know, sports media station would have been running with it. But that didn't fit the narrative, right? Right, at all.

And that's from the team, you would assume, right? That information? Because that only benefits them? Yeah, but who would know that information? Just the team and just the agent, right? Yeah. So somebody could say, we thought it was this. And what if that is about to drop?

What if there's just some massive deal about to drop out of nowhere? 50 a year? Yeah, and it's just going to be Goont Koontz and Aaron standing there just answering. Let's talk about all the bullshit. We just went through a pretty good negotiation. You know why? There was $600 million up right there. Yeah.

Okay, there's a lot of things that could be there. You ever watch Pawn Stars? You ever see Rick and some random get after it? Yeah, that's 100% the situation when business happens as well between two people at this much. What's going to happen? He was a Denver Bronco for two days. Oh, yeah.

Hey, he was a Bronco for two days. Now he might be what? The highest paid player in the NFL's history for the Packers still. He could potentially be the host of Jeopardy. I mean, Devontae Adams now has come out. He was talking to Colin Cowherd yesterday on the herd, and he was asked his immediate thoughts upon hearing that Aaron Rodgers and the Green Bay Packers might be no more. He said, well, I was having a couple of brewskis.

I was out on a golf course. And, yeah, kind of obviously surprised the hell out of me. And then he went on to say, we've established a lot together. It would change a lot. It doesn't mean I'd be gone when he becomes a free agent in 2021 after this season but i definitely have to do some extra thinking if my guy wasn't here he went on to say some other things he's 100 behind his guy aaron rogers i feel like that's how every player is going to speak if you would hope at least every player would be like yeah he's got business to figure out that's on him that's uh that's how this whole thing goes maybe there

will be people that come out against him. I doubt it, though. But it's nice to hear that Devontae and he are this much together. And I would assume not just Devontae, by the way. A lot of free agents are going to be tough to sign if Aaron Rodgers is not the quarterback for the Green Bay Packers. Like, that is just the fact of life. And I think the Packers know that. That's why they've always tried to build from within or whatever.

But I don't think you're surprised about Devontae saying this at all if you're a Packers fan and allegedly Aaron's not going to be here now Aaron might be here for the next seven eight years this is nothing this could be a nothing conversation but that is something that you obviously like yeah obviously not surprised at all and he's probably he's underpaid right now as is so it's like yeah I mean he he's arguably you know one of the best three receivers in the league. And obviously Aaron, I mean, does a lot to,

to help that. But yeah, I mean, I wonder if they now think like, Hey, we, we, I mean,

maybe they have been pulling out all the stops, but like, this could be like a legit, you know, title wave. It's like, you lose him. Then you lose Devante.

Then like, where does it end? Okay. So Brady, Hey, the fallout is tough. Yeah. You're going to have to spend $157 million next offseason. You it end? Okay. So, Brady. Hey. The fallout is tough. Yeah, you're going to have to spend $157 million next offseason. You got to be willing to do it.

And they are not going to do that. They got to have an owner. So, yeah, it's cool. Go ahead and do it. And Matt Patricia. You don't have to have one of those. And Matt Patricia. He's got sign-offs on everything.

Uh-huh. We got to get to a break. Darius Butler will join us on the other side. He had a terrible take. Not bad. He must have been drunk. Had to have been boozing. Uh-huh.

Or maybe he's all doped up. Could be. Smoking the dope. He must have been smoking the dope. He could have been. People go through many changes as we get older. Isn't that right? Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah. For men, one of the less fortunate changes is that testosterone production begins to naturally decrease in the body. Did you know this, AJ? I am aware. For most men, it begins around the age of 30, and testosterone production declines by roughly 1% per year. My God. So if you live to 130, you ain't got shit left. No.

Minus 30. Well, if it starts around 30 this is one of those questions on a test where you know begins around 30 in the testosterone production declines by roughly one percent per year so does it start at zero or does it start at 30 that's the thing this is where they can get you it's one of them damn word problems this is one of those rounds where you're like oh wait a minute uh which can i ask a follow-up? Anyways, I was good at those tests because I always viewed it as me versus the fucking teacher.

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Thank you, Roman. Shout out to this hater joining us right now. Fucking hater, dude. Ladies and gentlemen, Darius Butler. Yeah, D-Bud. All right. D-Bud. What's good, bro?

Hey, listen. I have a lot of appreciation and respect for things. What are you cranking over there, man? It's a Celsius. Is that a heat? Oh, heat. It's a Celsius heat. Okay, it's a Celsius heat.

It is a diesel, by the way. It's a diesel. No joke. Big boy. Go to Celsius.com forward slash locate, and you can find one of these near you anyways. But things that come out of your brain, okay, D-Butt, through the mouth, all right, over the years here, I have appreciated, I have respected. I'm like, okay, when D-Butt speaks, I'm going to listen.

So I always listen to the Everything DB, the Man to Man pod. I'm a big fan of the things that come out of your mouth. Now with that being said, you tweeted something last night that was out of fucking line. Bullshit! Out of line. Please put his tweet up onto the screen. Nobody else will say it, so I will. Okay, D-Butt says, nobody else

is going to say this, so I will. The country of the NFL wouldn't stand a chance. Are you talking about just in track or the entire Olympics? Because if you don't think we're winning a gold medal in fucking handball, you are out of your mind D-Butt. Out of your mind.

In certain things yeah, we could win. I would even give us a shot, maybe shot put or something like that. Javelin? Javelin? Yeah. The thing Javelin? Javelin? Yeah. I don't know. The thing. The thing.

Javelin. Josh Allen. Like we. I mean. One year. These dudes. These people have put in their life work into this shit, man. And I know like we're fast.

You know, we feel like we're fast. You've probably seen a lot of fast guys. Right? And it's like, damn. But when you go out there and they track, bro, that shit is completely different. I learned this early, high school. Obviously, high school, South Florida. And, you know, I just skated through track all the way to regionals.

And then once I got to that level, I'm like, oh, this shit is different. I'm seeing, you know, cats that don't even different. I'm seeing cats that don't even look. I'm on a 200 coming around that curve and I'm seeing cats just flying by me like, damn, brother, I thought I was fast. Then I get the states and it's a whole different ballgame. I literally got all over these states.

Long jump, high jump, zero technique, 100 meter dash, zero technique, and got destroyed in every event. Exactly. What we're saying is if you took a year of your life, technique, 100 meter dash, zero technique, and got destroyed in every event. Well, yeah, that's what I mean. Exactly. What we're saying is if you took a year of your life, D-Bud, now track, we said was going to be difficult. It was going to be tough.

Track was going to be difficult. We said it was going to be tough. I don't even know if we get it. A year, Pat? One year, every day. Listen, we're eating, we're sleeping, we're breathing the Olympic sport that we are doing every single day. One year you think. Yeah.

So what guys in the NFL right now do you think could medal? In what sport? In any track. I'm sticking with the tracks though. So you didn't even listen to the argument. You didn't even listen to the argument. I'm talking about track and field. 100, 200,

400, long jump, high jump. Just off the top of my head, Tyreek Hill was meddling in all those things. How you doing, Keep It Moving? We got a guy. We got the guy. Yep. All right. Okay.

We got the guy. We call him Cheetah, so I'll give you that. I can say Tyreek Hill if he just – Now, I would still think it would take more than a year. How long? You're going back and you say, hey, if these guys went to college and said, hey, I'm going to college for track instead of football, completely different conversation.

But nine months to a year, bro, we are getting dog walked. Everybody's impressed with, you know, DK Metcalf getting out there running the 10-36. And, I mean, I personally wasn't impressed. I expected him to do that. He's a big, fast dude, like long speed. I expected him to go and run it. It's probably a few guys that go and run a 10-36. So I'm

not impressed that he did it. I expected that from DK Metcalf. Somebody else would have went out there and did it. Maybe I would have been surprised. But DK going out there and doing that, coming in ninth, and I don't know any of those guys. I don't think any of those guys will medal. I don't know.

I don't know them personally. I've never heard any. I still, to this day, haven't heard any of the guys' names. I do know a young lady who ran 1077 on the same day, though. So take that for what it's worth. So we did some research. Tyreek Hill, 10-1-9. Like I said, Tyreek, he would be a guy.

That's the country of the NFL. What's meddling? What times are meddling? I don't know. What's Usain Bolt want to run this year? That's the question. He's low. DK is in the wrong event.

He's a 200-meter hurdles guy. It was obvious. Built for it. Bang, jumping over that thing. But once again, we have to reiterate we didn't think we were going to win in track. No, no, no. What we're talking about is... Handball. I heard you say, I heard you speak

about volleyball. Discus. Julio. Imagine, Julio Jones. Okay. And I think it's DK. We didn't even have DK on our track team. We didn't even have him on the track squad. We didn't even have him on there. We had McCole Hardman on there. We subbed somebody out.

We put in that rookie from Cleveland, that kid named Flash. Oh, yeah, Scooty. And Scotty Miller. Dude, Scotty Miller fucking leading that ball. But DK Metcalf,

Julio Jones, beach volleyball, fucking gold medal. Go ahead and count it. Gold? Well, they got that. They're going to win silver against Dolhouser.

Yeah, we got Phil Dolhouser. That's an American. How tall is he? He's like to win silver. Yeah, because we got Phil Dollhouser. Dollhouser. Dollhouser. That's an American. How tall is he? He's like 6'9". 6'9". He's very tall. They're all very, very tall. Yeah.

They're all very, very tall. Lanky, too. I'm telling you, bro. Rugby. We'll be up here in that net just jumping. Fuck. And they'll be setting our ass up. Hell!

I've seen that shit, too. I try. I try. So maybe we don't win. Hey, maybe we don't win beach volleyball. Okay I try so maybe we don't win hey maybe we don't win beach volleyball okay we already said we wouldn't win

and when Dole Hauser is gone still on the podium tell him rugby rugby rugby we're winning Derrick Henry

how you doing he's tossing it to guess who Christian McCaffrey guess who Christian McCaffrey is tossing it to Zeke

you saw you saw Daniel you saw Daniel Dungo you put Daniel Dungo on the field with Christian McCaffrey if you want to. He can't catch him. Yeah, but dude, listen, we saw Adongo could catch him, by the way. He was 260 pounds like Gunner. I got him to play Gunner.

Probably 2% body fat. Look up a picture of Daniel Adongo. He was also probably one of the picture. He's on the team. Look up a picture of Daniel Adongo. He was in the NFL. He was also probably one of the best rugby players in the world. Hey, he's on our squad, by the way, because he's in the country of the NFL. He is in the country of the NFL. You're right. Okay, so Adongo's pitching it to Derrick Henry, who's pitching it to Christian McCaffrey,

who's pitching it to Jonathan Taylor, who's pitching it to Aaron Jones, who's pitching it to Alvin Kamara, who's pitching it to Dalvin Cook, who's pitching it to Aaron Jones who's pitching it to Alvin Kamara who's pitching it to Dalvin Cook who's pitching it to by the way, Tim Tebow. Oh, let's go. Hey, people are pissed, Darius. Hey, people are pissed. Hey, we've been talking about this, man.

People are... Oh, shit. Don't go. I need something to think about. It's crazy to think about it. We saw Don go come. He probably came in 235 maybe. And like within what? A year, two years? He was probably like 260 something.

That was absolutely nuts. But Tim Tebow. Gunner. Put up a picture of Tim Tebow. Let's see what Tim Tebow is looking like today, man. We knew Tebow was coming back, man. We knew this was going to happen. Darius, people are pissed.

People are pissed, Darius. I didn't expect people to be this pissed. I think some of it is kind of like you see somebody else speak on it and you see them pissed off about it. You say, oh, yeah, you know, I'm pissed off about it too because why the hell not? That's just kind of the world we live in today with a lot of shit. But, I mean, the T-Bone thing, it makes sense from a business standpoint.

For the people that don't know Tebow is a Jacksonville legend I would say a god but I wouldn't you know want to offend anybody but he's a legend exactly so I wouldn't want to offend Tebow or Trevor Lawrence but

but Jacksonville needs legend in Jacksonville. Obviously, when the Gainesville did his thing there with the Heismans, the Natties, didn't pan out in the league as a quarterback. I didn't think he was ever going to be a good quarterback in the league, honestly, but good athlete, good leader, good guy you want in the locker room. I don't know the three guys that you know that can beat them out right now off the top of my head are they are there guys maybe we'll see give them a shot yeah

so right now the last year i think their leading tight end had 12 yeah jimmy o'shaughnessy yeah shaughnessy had 12 catchers or something like that right now the over under has been set in some sports books at tim tebow to have over under 12 yards. There's no way we think he's actually going to be able to. 12 yards for the season? Yeah. Oh, you guys. What's the odds on that? I got to get on that.

Oh, you think over? Slam it. Listen, Tim Tebow is making this football team. Tim Tebow is going to be a team captain of the Jacksonville Jaguars. He's going to be on all the commercials, the season tickets. He's going to play. It's going to be on all the commercials, the season tickets. He's going to play.

It's going to be a package with Tim Tebow. And from a realistic football standpoint, that's something we got a game plan for. I'm thinking about the heavy Tebow package when you get near the goal line, like the Cam Panthers package you have. The jump passes, the RPOs, lining them up at tight end. I can see this thing working. Debuck, quick.

There's highlights coming out now of him whenever he was playing PP on the punt team and he was not a good blocker. But he was not a good blocker. By the way, we knew that he was not a good blocker, but we couldn't do anything really because he's potentially throwing a fake every single play, which he did against us, by the way, we knew that he was not a good blocker, but we couldn't do anything really because he's potentially throwing a fake

every single play, which he did against us, by the way. He did. We were planning for that the entire week. We're not rushing even though he can't. Was he successful? Oh, yeah. 35, 40 yards right down the middle. Tebow delivered that thing.

That's winning a bet right there. Yeah. I mean, no, he threw it. It was passing. Yeah, he threw it. But there's a lot of clips of him not being able to catch and him not being able to block or whatever from his previous experience. Now that he's going to tight end,

do you think that's something that he'll be able to, like, switch into? Like, okay, now I actually have to block. I'm not just, like, a quarterback in a gimmick PP. I'm actually going to have to do something. Do you think he'll be able to flip that switch? Because in college, we saw him running people over. I don't know if that transition is real or not. Do you think he can be able to flip that switch because in college we saw him running people over i don't know if that transition is real or not do you think he can make that easily or no i would say easily but if you're looking at positions that you we've seen people come in and transition oh yeah basketball tight end is the position and i've seen basketball players do it

over the years so i mean if i can see basketball we saw we saw Swoop do it, Mo'Ally Cox, Jimmy Graham, Antonio Gaze, Gonzalez, a lot of guys over the years coming to do it. So tight end is more about positioning yourself than just being an ass kicker. You know, some guys can do both, like a George Kittle or Gronk. Those guys can really manhandle guys. For the most part, these guys are positioning themselves. It's footwork. It's hand placement. I mean, it's not the hardest thing in the world to do, if you're being honest. He's got to have good hands. He played quarterback his whole life.

That's a position that's always catching the ball. I think it's just repping. It's going to be reps. Is he a guy that I think is going to come into camp prepared? Absolutely. So, it's a guy I wouldn't – I mean, if you put him on a 90-man roster, you give him a chance to make the team, I feel like the Jacksonville Jaguars are going to give him every opportunity to make a team.

To make the team, you know, he's going to have to go out there and really stink it up to not be on that roster when it's all said and done, in my opinion. We're talking to Darius Butler, a nine-year NFL vet who played corner, safety, nickel in the NFL, hosted the Man to Man podcast alongside Antoine Bethea. You just gave like a very good breakdown on why the tight end position of all positions is actually a good position to go to if you're big and athletic because you're 100%. Antonio Gates started that entire thing, right, coming out of Kent State. And then that has continued.

Jimmy Graham, I think. Yeah, Miami. Julius Peppers. I think he played in college, too, didn't he? Yeah. Yeah, no, Pep, Pep, he played both sports, basketball and football. Which, by the way, is at North Carolina. Freakish.

I played basketball. Yeah, that's unbelievable. But you played basketball with him before? With Pep, yeah. How'd that go? Get out of the way. Get out of the way. Do your thing, big dog.

Do your thing. Yeah dog. Do your best. Yeah, that was. But you're right. Swope, though. Swope is the guy who caught the pass that I had on Thanksgiving. Okay, he's, I don't want to say like kind of mild-mannered, but he is kind of a chill guy, like super low-key. Super chill, yeah.

Great athlete, obviously, but super laid back. And, you know, there was a lot of, like, teaching the form. You know, like, there was a lot of that where he had to learn, and he had to take, like, notes on that whole thing. He was, like, learning the sport of football while also, you know, trying to make an NFL team. And he got good. Like, he got good at that entire thing.

Hell, yeah. He got, like, good. It is something if Tebow, will he buy into it? He bought into playing double-A baseball for, like, seven years when everybody was like, what are you doing? Like, what are are we doing you're still on buses yeah tebow come model get the fuck out of the batter's box dude and he's like no i won't do this and now he's doing football i guess there is a chance he could be good i i think maybe you know they just want him in the building i don't think they have many expectations for him on the field i assume he is much different

to thinking about what he's going to do good time ahead, Ty. Well, I was just going to say, too, I mean, can you imagine how many Tebow jerseys they'd sell? He'd outsell Trevor Lawrence, maybe. Hey, the living legend thing in Jacksonville not talked about. I did not know that, by the way. Until it came out that Urban Meyer bought a house next to Tebow, I was like, oh, I didn't know Tebow. I didn't know he stays in Jacksonville.

They're like, no, that's his hometown or whatever. It's like, oh, business-wise, this is starting to make even more sense. That town, like I said, that was the first I knew of him at Jacksonville and Neese High School. That was the first I knew of Neese High School. And then, obviously, he went on to do what he did at Florida. And he went on early on as a freshman and kind of split time with Chris Lee and won that first national championship.

So even from – and every player that I play with, a lot of Florida former Gators and everyone speaks of him, not even speaking to you about it. Everyone speaks to him kind of in that same light. And, you know, in the pros, that doesn't hold as much weight as it does in the college locker room is a high school locker room. But if you're a college coach coming into a pro locker room he can even help kind of that transition a little bit like you said even if he comes in and just completely stinks completely suck i can see him being still in that building with that team in some type of role like i think him coming out he's not gonna leave you're trying to build a new culture you got a new quarterback a new coach new general manager everything's new i, why not have the guy in the building and see what value he can have?

I mean, he's a championship player. He's a championship-type intangible guy. And those things do matter to a level. They matter in the locker room, obviously, in meetings, you know, can set the tone. Especially it's Tim fucking Tebow, you know, so it's like. It's Tim Tebow. And he may take some, you may take some hype away from Lawrence. Some of the distraction

that rookie, we saw luck. He wasn't even a guy who wanted to be in front of the cameras and interview all the time, but you're the number one pick. You're the next great hope for the league. You're going to have to deal with that. That may pull away from even the circus that will be

surrounding Trevor Lawrence. I don't know where the hell that will be surrounding Trevor Lawrence. So, I mean, I don't know where the hell this is even coming from, where I'm on this fucking T-Bone train. Yeah, dude, I did not expect this. I did not expect this. And I was talking to you about it last week, I feel like. And this is just like immediately where my, you know, where my mind went with this. So, you know, I'm sticking with it. I've been getting the hate, too.

Trust me. Yeah, I'm sure people are not going to be thrilled with everything that we have talked about today the internet and you said you said like people see something on the internet and they like jump on it's like i think people see something they're like yeah absolutely i actually agree with that maybe they would have never thought of it themselves and they're like that's why it may be you know there are players and we can Kaepernick is obviously on that list at the top of it, but there's a lot of players that you and I, you and I have met through, by the way,

that are like bottom half of roster people who deserve to be on a roster, but for whatever fucking reason, it just doesn't happen. Right. Whether it's, they burned a bridge somewhere or they said something about somebody or something else happened or whatever. That's just the business of the NFL. Like I hate, like I wish that wasn't the case, but that's how it is like that is just how it is and it's always been that way and I assume it's it's going to be that way forever in life is like that the world is like that I don't like it I hope that it changes that way I hope like hey every single

qualified person gets every single job that they deserve to have and I believe that would be fair I believe that would be awesome but it's just not the fucking way the world work I we wish hey we wish yeah Yeah, especially in sports, you know, it's supposed to be you know What's that word media talker see where you prove you basically prove and you're worth every day And if you're the best person for the job, you should get opportunity we agree But we know in reality that's not the case for one reason or another It's the just like most businesses. It's a people business.

It's a relationship business. So Tim Tebow get it out. This dude was just with the Mets for however long. He stunk. Like that was because it was Tim Tebow. Jordan get an opportunity. He got it. He got it.

Like, you know, different people get different opportunities. That's just the reality. If you were to come out and say right now, like, I want to, you know, punt next year. Like you would different opportunities. That's just the reality. If you were to come out and say right now, I want to punt next year, you would get opportunities, obviously partly for what you've done on the field, and then you still have these certain relationships. Now, a friend of mine, somebody I spent time with before, Marquette King, he was a guy from the outside looking in, looking at punters like, damn, this dude has a fucking bomb.

I know he pisses people off, may have rubbed some people the wrong way. But that dude, in my opinion, athletically, doing it, getting the job done, it's a no brainer. He could be an NFL punter. We've seen him do it at a Pro Bowl level. But the relationship side of it, the whatever other things behind the scene that we may not know, maybe he's in the way of that. So that's just the reality of the world we live in. And, you know, you can definitely be pissed off about it. Some people do.

I get pissed off about it at times. But then obviously, you know, you just kind of, you know, go keep it moving. Yeah, Marquette is a beautiful example of this entire thing, by the way. Like, you see him hit a ball. I see him hit a ball. By the way, I called his XFL game. I basically, during the XFL game, was talking about how he should be in the NFL with how he hits. But I do

believe there is potentially among some people in the NFL where they're like, well, why didn't it work here? Why didn't it work here? What's going on there? And at the punter position, I think they think to themselves, well, we're not doing that or whatever, even though it's bullshit. And I agree. But that's how it is, I think, with fucking everything.

Even you. You were a punter a decade. And, you know, GM hated you. I was not well-liked. I was not well-liked. He hated your gut. So, I mean, it's just part of what it is. Hey, I knew, though. Hey, listen.

I had a good feeling, you know, that if I went into a little bit of a drought, you know, if I had a three-week hiccup just anywhere in there i was probably fucking on my way out i can't afford them anymore sorry see you later you've had three bad weeks get on out of here so by the way that motivated me all right if i'm gonna start talking i have to play well because if not you're just giving ammunition you're giving ammunition to people immediately i said this about juju as soon as juju As soon as Juju came into the league, he started doing things. I was like, I love his personality. I love everything about him.

As soon as he doesn't play at his absolute peak, though, all this shit he's doing, people are going, oh, he should be focusing on this. He should be focusing on this. Which is stupid. Yeah, that's the world we live in, though. I understood it at a very micro level as opposed to everybody else. It's just the world we live in. It stinks, but we'll get through it.

Hey, you know what? We're going to make it right for the future. Hell yeah. We're going to make it right. There we go. We're going to make it right. Someone's got it. Connor, go ahead.

Someone's got it. We got to start buying some teams, man. Start some leagues. I'm trying. That's a big one. That's a big one. I think interest rates right now are pretty good. Yeah, that's what I'm thinking about.

Pretty good. Good time to invest. Can't get gas to get to the bank, but can get to the bank and get a good loan with no interest on it. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. What do you got there? Yeah, Debo, we were just talking about basketball.

So naturally, my thought was, do you think the country of the NFL could podium in basketball? No chance, dude. No chance. I don't know. Absolutely not. I don't know. We didn't even put that team together. No chance, dude. No chance. I don't know. Absolutely not. I don't know. We didn't even put that team together. No, we didn't.

Josh McCown, that point guard. Come on. Kind of like, I would say after probably soccer, it's probably the most global sport. So, like, these guys are playing for me. Luka was a pro at, what, 15, 16, something like that. He runs a 7-2-2. Luka runs like a 9-2. Luka runs like a 9-2.

Luka runs maybe a 9-2-40, and it does not matter because he's just so much smarter and better at basketball than you. It's unbelievable. It's such a skilled sport. So, like, nah, not a chance. And also. Not with a year. You're talking about, once again, three, four years?

Actually, nah. Nah. Maybe. Maybe. Maybe. Bron's been playing a long time. Hey, listen. You bump into Tony Parkers and Gasols and Manos and Greek Freaks. Like, you're not.

Have you seen Funches play? Yeah, that's true. Have you seen Devin Funches play basketball? Against football players. All right, you're a hater, dude. I mean, go ahead, Ty. D-Butt, as a defensive guy, when you see the stuff with, like, Rogers going on and then Devontae Adams comes out and says, like, well, if he's gone,

I'd have to take a look at where things are next year. Like, if you were a defensive player and you had, like, one year left or a couple years left, are you paying close attention to that or is it, like, different side of the ball so it doesn't really matter? Oh, yeah, for sure. If you're a player that's, you know, especially approaching like a contract a year, because playing at a high level is one thing, but, you know, you want to win as well. And when you're another team, another general manager, another front office,

you want to pick from those like winning teams you know you're a lot of times you're going to get you're going to be you know more highly coveted so you're probably going to be able to garner more money on the market so for sure and aaron rogers is one of those guys that if he leaves you know they could win five games next who knows what your love is um and i don't see any other, you know, it's not just top-tier quarterbacks sitting out there waiting, you know, outside of Tim Tebow. So, we're going to see. What's your problem?

But as a defensive player, I'd definitely be locked in on that. What's your problem, dude? What was that Tebow shot for right there? Come on. I'm just saying, you know, we didn't see it coming. All right. Hey, what do you got the rest of the day? Anything cool?

You doing anything cool today? You talking to anybody about anything? Are you doing business investments? What are you doing? I know you guys were – actually, we just did a good interview with my guy, Michael Bappas, who works up at Rockefeller. Doug and Tilla, the financial thing. What, did you just walk into that thing?

He's a suit. So, you know, there's a lot of people who don't like the suits right now. But he dropped a lot of game on it. And then I got Jim Rome later. Don't crush me like you guys did. We love Jim Rome. Hey, listen, when you go on Jim Rome, what you're doing is a beautiful piece of entertainment with OG legend in the game, Jim Rome. The issue with AJ is AJ goes on all these other shows

and breaks all this information and all this inside news on everybody else's show. And then we sit there and he goes, I don't know anything. No idea. You guys don't deserve that, man. Thank you, D-Butt. We were thinking the same damn thing. D-Butt, know your big hockey guy. Playoffs are starting this weekend.

Who you got? You riding with the Lightning again or you going with somebody else this time? You did pick the Stanley Cup champs last year. Incredible work by you. Big hockey guy. Yeah, you did. I'm going with the Lightning. If the Panthers didn't make it, right?

Oh, you know. They're playing the Panthers, dude. Yeah, you know. Uh-oh. Uh-oh. Can we rewind? Is this live? No, no. We'll dump it. We'll dump it. All right. Cool, cool, cool. I'm're playing the Panthers, dude. Yeah, you know. Uh-oh. Uh-oh. Can we rewind? Is this live? No, no.

We'll dump it. We'll dump it. All right, cool, cool, cool. I'm going with the Panthers. Whole team. There you go. What do you like about that team? Their colors.

Hell yeah. You know, the unity that they play with, the camaraderie. Play hard. You know, man, they really bring the community together. What about their style? They really rally around those guys down at the BB&T Center. Yeah. What about their style on the ice?

What is something that makes you think? Aggressive, man. Ah, Panthers. They're Panthers. Yeah, Panthers. They come out. Just the speed of the game. They're always one step ahead of the other team.

They're kind of like the Heat, kind of underdogs. You don't really expect them to do much. They can catch you slipping. So I look forward to the Panthers catching and lightning slipping tonight. Oh, my goodness. Ladies and gentlemen, J.S. Butler. Thank you. Thank you, J.S. Butler.

The Hammer Dime Boys have joined us. HTV, how you guys doing? Are we still winning or no? Great day yesterday. 2-0 in footy, 2-0 in baseball. Oh, Gumby's back. He's back. Just ride the wave.

Keep it going. Hey, welcome back up. Because the Cowboys still heat? Yeah, it's 3-0 yesterday. Really keeping score. The Hammered Don boys are handing out money at 4 p.m eastern standard time youtube.com forward slash hammer down it's unbelievable the uh heat wave you guys are on i want to let you know once it comes fall the ends are gonna be cold i'm gonna

be hot oh that's fine somebody is no yeah you're right i don't even know why i said that just hate why as long as one's hot, we're good. I know I said that. Well, last year, pretty big competition. Had to have his death. But now it's just like, hey, we're trying to rake as much money from Fandle as possible. That's right. Hey, boys, need you to remain hot through football season.

Because I'm probably going to be a bit chilly over there. And we need to continue to rake in all the fucking money. Is the first five still happening? Are we still betting on that? Still first five. First inning draw. We're on it now as well. At what point is Fandle you think going to realize we are

just getting cooked right now? We have the head of Fandle bookmaking on the show tomorrow, so we'll ask him. Have you had to reconfigure any algorithms due to what the HDBs have been doing? Are we going to get the first three on there anytime soon?

Oh, you think you need to add maybe another one? Okay. The ace is maybe coming out in the fourth inning every once in a while. So then we can really start telling what we're doing. Join us now, ladies and gentlemen, in Ohio, AJ Hawkins. AJ, great shirt. What's going on, dude? You looking at the wolf pack

over there? How you doing? Good to see you guys. Hey, it's great to see you. Also joining us, Mike in New Jersey. Mike, what's going on, dude? Panda boys, how we doing on this terrific Tuesday? Hey, things are fantastic. By the way, way to catch on right there, right in stride.

There's no delay or anything. Told the boys during the break, going to introduce everybody and bring in Mike from New Jersey since we lost him. What do you want to talk about over there, Mike? You know, I just want to talk a little bit about your guy Carson now. You know, I've been a big fan of the Eagles here in Philly for a long time. And I feel like he's the guy who single-handedly destroyed our franchise. Now I'm just kind of curious, like where's this guy been?

You know, like he was in your studio and everything. You had to play soft and everything When you Asked our questions Mike I asked our question. What questions did I not ask about? I just I just know that you had a little bit of a different opinion, you know When Aaron Rodgers was available Thank you. Thank you, you know But regardless kind of wondering like has this guy been in the building like where's this guy been? Matt Stafford. Yeah, yeah. There it is. Thank you. Thank you. You know. He's like third or fourth on the list.

But regardless, I'm just kind of wondering, like, has this guy been in the building? Like, where's this guy been? You know, are you worried about a potential, like, Andrew Luck situation where he just kind of goes away for a little bit? Mike. Mike. What is this? Mike. Mike.

Mike. Mike. Mike. Mike. Mike. Mike. He has a point. Hey, Wallace.

Oh, listen. Hey, Jay. Hey, listen. I have a point. Mike, you don't have a point. If Wentz doesn't work out, Rogers will be here next year. Hey, no big deal. Don't worry about it.

I don't care about that guy since he was in your building. This guy, Mike. Get him off. You agree with him, AJ? What is this Carson Wentz slander on this beautiful tooth? Today is the slander of Tebow. That's right. The entire internet agreed that today is the day you go after Tebow.

We ain't going after Carson Wentz. We've been past this, AJ. What do you say Mike has a point? Mike has a point because before they did get Carson Wentz on the Colts, anytime his name was brought up, you would sprint out of the room and tell us to shut up, and we are not allowed to speak of that. Well. That was a different time.

That was a different time. Listen, Aaron Rodgers was allegedly available around that time. And by the way, we don't know. Still might be. We don't know if he's – Carson would love Green Bay. Now, I'm not saying that, okay, because Carson's my guy right now. But I'm saying if back then they were able to do a three-way trade potentially, which my brain could not think of at the time, maybe I would have liked it.

But when Aaron was on the table, allegedly, I'm like, let's try to get if we're going to get a veteran quarterback, let's go ahead and get the let's go get the MVP of the league. Let's go. And then if Matthew Stafford is available, it's like, hey, not a lot of people have watched the Lions games. I have. Okay. Strictly because Foxy

is with me on a regular basis. You know, I'd like to be able to chat with him about his team. So I watch all the Lions. That dude, if you get him on a good team, and I would like to be able to chat with him about his team. So I watch all the lines. That dude, if you get him on a good team, oh, he's going to be unbelievable. So then once those two guys are, well, one of them gone for sure, the other one maybe not available, it's like,

okay, I was ready for Carson Wentz. What I'm saying is you're doing what, you know, I'd say people have to stir shit to, and that's take things out of context. That's what you're doing. Of course. AJ's been up all morning doing other shows, so we kind of... What news? Holy shit.

I'm so sorry. I did not mention that. The Insider to the Insiders did have a couple more appearances today. What is the news? Are we breaking any news, AJ? No. It was Keyshawn and J-Will, and I are we breaking any news aj no i i it was uh kishan and and jay will and i did not break jesus zubin there uh there was another voice i was not sure if it was zooms or not it wasn't zoo when i was watching aj i seen how do you do do you break any news a little bit

that's the thing that's is there any way we could just have like maybe one of the news breaks that you do on all those other shows? We talk to you every day, two and a half hours. Yeah. Save something. Is there any way we can get some news breaks every once in a while? What is the most recent update? Because Rappaport's re-reporting that they allegedly offered him

a long-term extension, and then in a May 6th article that was quoted from the athletic that we missed somehow it was bigger than mahomes's deal allegedly but that was back when narratives were trying to be painted and who knows what was real and what wasn't real but have you heard anything of this and did you break this news to rapaport no i i have not heard anything of this but did when did this offer supposedly come in to er? Well, allegedly the May 6th article. Yeah, it said it could have been within like over the last few months. I mean, it really wasn't specific at all.

Bro, nobody knows shit. How come everybody's just allowed to speculate on what's going on and put it as news? We need to start doing that. I kind of like that. And we don't know. Let's say they did offer a long-term extension. We have no idea what it looks like. They could have, the team could have opt-outs after every year. So it's not even like a long-term extension. We have no idea what it looks like. They could have – the team could have opt-outs after every year,

so it's not even like a long-term deal. They could try to word it like that. Yeah, they could have the voidable year thing. Apparently Bob Baffert's group – It could just be a team-friendly deal. It could be a contract offer. Okay, so here is speculation. We will get back to Aaron Rodgers,

especially because you are the news source for the Aaron Rodgers news now. So we are very thankful, by the way. We get a chance to. AJ. Thank you, AJ. We appreciate you so much. What did you wear? Did you wear that this morning?

No, it was a phone call. I was not FaceTime. Oh, they didn't pay the extra fee. They need to do a FaceTime for the Hawk fee. The Hawk line. And see the wolf. Yeah, the Hawk line. The Hawk line.

That would be awesome. We have the Hawk Line. The Hawk Line. That would be awesome. We have the Hawk Line every day. I think something we had to talk about yesterday was a potential groom from a wedding or a groomer of a horse peeing on hay and then feeding said hay to Medina Spirit, Kentucky Derby champion, and then failing a drug test because the piss that was on the hay that got fed to the world champion horse that is going to be worth hundreds of millions of dollars

probably whenever it's done. Why is it eating pissed hay is what we said. Turns out Bob Baffert came out today. It was not cancel culture like he originally believed. No, no. It was actually they did use the shit that you're not allowed to use for some time. And he also went out to say that it did not cause Medina Spirit to win, by the way. It was not enough.

This was just an ointment to an anti-inflammatory ointment that put on the hind then, I believe, is exactly where he did. But it's a situation now that it is looking bad for Medina. Medina didn't deserve this. No. Medina's just standing there, right? I don't think they lay down. He's standing there, and they just start rubbing this shit on him. Does he sleep standing up?

I think so, yeah. Sometimes it's bad news if they lay down. Yeah. That's why. Yeah, I think they're a stand animal. Oh, yeah. I'm excited for Baffert to come out tomorrow and be like cancel culture is a street name for the drug that we were putting oh so he was never lying

out there did you hear this about bob baffert and did you break this news as well no i did not break this i heard it and it made me wonder is the horse allowed to run in the preakness this weekend i know bob baffert can't go to church hill downs but wherever the preakness is i guess he's allowed in right so he's had over like 30 fines, allegedly, in this game. So I assume that whenever, every single year, that flowing white hair and sunglasses and Will Ferrell in Eastbound and Don Look hits our TVs on NBC, he is normally highlighted pretty well.

Oh, yeah. And I feel like the other members of the horse community don't necessarily probably love that. They're like're like hey this guy cheats all the time this guy ointment he says wait till you see you with the other he's had 30 of these types of situations and maybe they're a little bit too strict in bob baffert's eyes maybe it's it's hard to keep track or whatever but it feels like this is like a bill belichick new england type situation where everybody go yeah but yeah but hey is that Bob Baffert's legacy? Whoa.

Hey, but can we see how many other infractions and fines other trainers have had? Or is Bob way top of the list? True. Is this an infraction-filled sport? I look at it like cycling. Ah. Bingo. There you go.

Lance Armstrong was definitely dope in his blood. Oh, yeah. Definitely. But. Lance Armstrong was definitely dope in his blood Oh yeah Definitely I think he was doing that Oh yeah Say it's Floyd Landis Yep The serious audience loves this They get it people that can't see this i am acting as

if i am uh taking out and then injecting blood into my uh left forearm in a rapid fashion because i believe they they take out the blood they cycle it to add oxygen to it then they add more blood back in so you have more blood more oxygen which means better cardiovascular uh performance and then also there's some other shit allegedly potentially in a documentary that i saw that we have not been able to find a potential something in a gear as well that maybe was making. I believe cycling is a business. I don't know if Lance is doing that, but I think Lance was. That was an Icarus? They implied.

No, no. Icarus was this entire thing. But I'm talking about there was another doc I saw. Yeah, mechanism on the bike. Like an e-bike? It was like a moped. Yeah, yeah. It was kind of like a moped, I guess, that somebody was able to make it.

And that person was paid to not talk for like 10 years or let anybody else use the bike or something. And I'm not saying that was Lance, but you're right. In the cycling business of sport or whatever. And by the way, we used to go to races. Hey, Jay, we used to go to like, Tim McAfee loves cycling. Yeah, there used to be a race in Pittsburgh that we went to a few times when we were younger. Yeah, like when Lance came to town and the yellow jerseys were coming to town, we were a family that wouldn't watch because old Tim McAfee got pulled over in the park for speeding on his bike.

Damn. Like Tim was doing that type of shit. And then as you watch all these documentaries and stuff, you start realizing like, oh, everybody's cheating. Everybody, every single person that we watch miraculously climb up the alps in a fashion that we never thought a human could do is like oh they were cheating that entire time never would have guessed it never would have guessed it but maybe horse racing is the same way you're right maybe it is that everybody's just getting juiced up out there that's the shit these horses don't deserve this so you were right yesterday though i mean on the line, Bob Baffert is a cheating sack of shit. Allegedly.

Well, I think it's pretty matter of fact. It's just there's a lot of other cheating sacks of shit out there as well. We've got to figure out who told the horse to put the bomb on. Yeah. You're trying to place blame on Medina here. I don't think we should be doing that. I don't think we should be blaming the

horse here. AJ, your thoughts? If it's, I mean, could this just be like a smoke screen for other stuff? If it's a bomb, I would imagine they're injecting stuff that's much stronger. So could this be, hey, let's get caught with this anti-inflammatory because we're juicing them up with something really good. No, Bob Baffert.

Mark McGuire explained that, why he put the bottle of Andro in his locker. So then the media would ask about that, and they'd ask, oh, yeah, it's this pill with Andro's stinging dog. He was just on creatine, AJ. Yeah, it was creatine. Great thing to work out. But Bob Baffert believes in Icy Hot, okay?

So he believes in the Icy Hot for horses, which is this very illegal thing. And he's out there stroking hind end with them. He's just stroking the horse's ass. Just doing this loosen it up he's not shooting anything yeah he's just kind of loosening up it sounds like he just didn't he didn't taper off early enough is what it sounds like i'm sure they're all doing it but you have to get it out of the horse's system so by race day they're good yeah that's kind of like right fighters say that yeah don't fighters say that people know and by the way icarus there's doctors and i guess also in uh screwball or whatever it's called screwball there's doctors that can figure out

how to get things in and out of your system for tests too they're trying to stay one step ahead of the um i think it's what's the regulatory the main one is the olympic testing. So that's the problem when they test for HGH. USADA. USADA. USADA. USADA or whatever. And there's WADA too. They say they test for HGH, but no one knows what the levels for HGH are.

It's not like testosterone. That was awesome when it came to the NFL. And it was a big fight. It was a big fight. The HGH. There's no baseline. There's no baseline anyway. So no one's going to test positive for this because we don't know what positive is. That's what the. There's no baseline anyway, so no one's going to test positive for this

because we don't know what positive is. That's what the end-up result was. They were like, we're going to test for it. We don't know. But I don't think anybody has failed an HGH test, right? Nobody has failed an HGH test in the NFL's history, I don't think. Well, one guy got suspended. I'm not even going to put his name out, but he did get suspended

because his dealer, I think, snitched on him. Okay, but it wasn't the HGH test that actually— They didn't say, oh, you're piss-tested or your blood tested positive. Yeah, they started taking blood from people out of nowhere. They started taking blood from people. They're like, oh, that's for the HGH testing. And it was like a year and a half, I remember, the NFLPA sending out emails, the NFLPA sending out emails.

We refuse to give in on our stance that there is not enough studies on the actual growth hormone that is involved in everybody. And then, by the way, the NFL players probably have a little bit more just naturally than everybody else, so there's no baseline, so they can't test for this slander names

and also have you fail tests. And then all of a sudden, out of nowhere, we got those emails, and then it was like, they're're testing for hgh and then a follow-up email was like you're kind of good though you'll be okay they still don't know they still don't know what the what the amount is and still to this day i assume they have no idea right do they still take blood like are they still taking blood from players yeah i think so yeah pretty sure but yeah you're right no one's ever tested positive for HGH that we know of. Man, I think that was when I first learned of HGH,

whenever it started coming in the emails. And I started asking around, you know, I was like, what is this? And they're like, you don't want that stuff, man. You recover faster. Your skin gets healthier. Your hand-eye coordination gets better. You don't want that stuff, man. What?

Yeah, you're going to be able to work out like four times a day. Okay, you can heal quicker. I mean, you don't want this stuff man listen yeah you're gonna be able to work out like four times a day okay you can heal quicker i mean that is you don't want this stuff man i mean it is i was like what the fuck is this as soon as i retire i'm getting my hands on that shit and as soon as i retire i learn it's not that easy to find in the middle of indiana i guess it's not just the easiest thing to find but it sounds like hgh is like the greatest thing of all time. I assume that there is drawbacks to it. I assume there is.

People's heads get ginormous. I mean, I've seen that. I've heard that your cancer cells grow. Yeah, so everything grows in your body, your organs and everything. So when you stop taking it, like you can be on it forever. It's not like steroid where you cycle. AJ, organs. You sick fuck. You ass clown.

Your penis is an organ. But yeah well if you stop it then your organs they kind of try and come back down to regular size you are such a child yeah kidding me like you weren't wondering the same thing i mean i guess whenever he said all organs i immediately ran through my entire body and i was like okay but the the when you get off of it yeah what's the long-term effects so your your organs will try and shrink that back down to what they regularly were and it's probably not going to be the same if you know what i mean but i assume fighters right

like fighters are probably on this i think most people once they start it you just take it for the rest of your life like you can stay on it forever how many people you think are in it that are in like in the NFL, AJ, and we haven't been in, I guess, for years, so I have no idea what it is now. And I don't know if HGH is necessarily something this new generation is in. But whenever HGH was maybe like the new thing that was out there, AJ, how many people you think were taking it potentially in the NFL? You think, I think it's a lot less than people think.

That's what I think. I think it's probably less. But whenever anyone tells me oh this guy's these guys are on steroids or whatever saying like testosterone I'm like I don't know how you do that with the testing it's very strict testing for actual steroids but when HGH became a thing yeah I was in the league and it has died down like lately I guess you don't talk about as much but I mean I don't know I'd say what do you Maybe two, three guys per team maybe on HGH back when they weren't testing for it? That's what I'm saying.

I think the Outsiders, because of those movies from back in the day. Like the program. The program and things like that. And by the way, that's probably how it was back in the day. I'd assume it was very, very like Wild Wild West. And I assume. Have we ever asked Schlereth when he first got in the league what it was like? Because I talked to a lot of guys that played like mid to late 80s. And they said it was the Wild West and I assume... Have we ever asked Schlereth when he first got in the league what it was like? Because I talked to a lot of guys that played

mid to late 80s and they said it was the Wild West. Yeah, because he's like super meathead too, right? Yeah, like Tony Mandridge. He was doing all this kind of stuff, I think, and that was early 90s. But I don't think... I think people think

that there's more people on shit than there actually is. People assume the NFL is like how I assume horse racing is. They're all juiced up. You talk to people, they're really like, oh, man, so everybody's just on the gas? I'm like, no, I don't know what that means exactly. Is that Kevin Green? Hey, did Kevin Green ask you that?

No, no. Eight to the G. You got the guy on the gas. That guy's awesome huh Kevin Green by the way comes from an era where it feels like that was one of those tone setting arrows where everybody

was flying around that Steelers defense was awesome I mean there's a movie about it now at this point but like the the the thought I think is people think a lot more I'm not saying

nobody is there's definitely and there's fails and things like that. And maybe it is Adderall for some guys that test for an amphetamine and they say they fail a PED, what is it, performance enhancing? And then Street Trek, they fail a PED test. And maybe it was Adderall and they were just out one night or whatever. So I'm not saying I don't think anybody's on it,

but I think it's a lot less than people think it is, even though the HGH test is testing for absolutely nothing. Did teammates in the locker room care if you were? You never talked about it. I know, but. Never talked about it. Literally never talked about it. That was something, right, I'd assume in your locker room,

because of how much it was like chastised against, I think. Same with gambling, like in all that shit with the Pete Rose. The Pete Rose thing was like, don't be Pete Rose, don't be Pete Rose. That's like hammered in there. There's signs everywhere. Nobody really and all that shit with the pete rose the pete rose thing was like don't be pete rose don't be pete rose that's like hammered in there there's signs everywhere nobody really talked about that shit you don't talk really business in the locker room and i don't think i was a part and maybe when i would start asking questions to people they i would get some answers or whatever but that wasn't something that was really talked about in our locker room might have been differently elsewhere maybe not in my position i guess maybe i wasn't part of those

conversations but i don't think that's an open convo at this era you know what i mean like i don't think in this era it's open convo i i never found it to be i think anyone that was taking anything maybe if there was somebody else on the team on it that they might have been introduced to maybe they're tight and they kind of talk with each other but no it was never something that anyone would brag about or show open a duffel bag and show you syringes like the movie. Check it out. Hey, bro. You want to be back by Sunday, dude?

I got a lot of people that texted me about yesterday's NFL coaches getting back into practice. I got like five text messages and then Kelsey was on there. She's like, man, you ain't fucking lying. These coaches, they are ready to get back. Thielen broke some news on the show yesterday, and it hasn't really been talked about. He said we're going back in the building next week because we've seen other people were in there.

So that is obviously, okay, so Tom Brady gives a speech. There's a couple people sitting out. Rookies are going there. There's 50 here. It just feels like I hope it becomes a conversation for the nfl and the nflpa it'll settle down the road or whatever but it feels like this one is over at this point this whole ota boycott thing what did what was interesting theon said i remember he said well once there's already people back there working out like our leverage is kind of gone he basically said like hey it's all or nothing and it's not everybody so here we go we're back

and i mean we could have never guessed no that. And, I mean, we could have never guessed. No. We could have never, we could have never, ever guessed that was the case. But I do like that, you know, hopefully that gets the ball rolling for a potential transformation of what the entire league year looks like. You know what I mean? Because that's what that would have to be, the entire league year. Especially now, Shefty reported this morning that the games will begin on September 9th, Thursday night, in Champa Bay.

And it will end January 9th. Sunday, January 9th is when the season ends. That's the new 19-week or 18-week season. Okay, so it's not that late. It's starting September 9th. Let's go. Countdown is on. Here we go.

Let's go. The scheduled release is happening tomorrow night. I know I know a couple I know a couple of the games. How? Are you kidding me? No.

What team is it for? Well, so I may or may not be. No, I'm not saying anything. Come on. Are you up to something? Not. No. Uh-oh. No, no, no.

We should not. I don't want to. I am up to something, but this is not what. Temper expectations. This is not. Yeah, this is not the something I'm up to, if that means anything. But I do know a couple of the potential games that are going to happen. I know a couple of the games that are potentially going to happen out there.

Okay, I have it in my brain. I potentially know. You know what I mean? Are you going to swing that little baby hammer again at a game? Is that why you know? AJ, it's not the size of the hammer. It's how you swing it. You did a great job. Honestly, you were very entertaining. You did very, very good.

Maybe that's what they had to tip you off and let you know if you're available on this day. So it's not about swinging the massive hammer that I swing with the Indianapolis Colts organization before game days. It's not about that. But it is potentially about that organization. And now that I think about it, I don't even think they have their schedules yet. So what I saw was just a potential of what it could be. Oh, shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. When are you guys uh play in new england uh well i'm not 100 sure

son of a bitch okay i think about it after the information we were told i don't know anything no okay that it'll no no because they only find out which is actually a massive part of the so you just got pool of teams yeah i know who Yeah, I know who is all... I know who is all... Oh, yeah. But I think everybody kind of does. Yeah, the home and the ways are set. Yeah, so no, I know nothing. God damn it!

All right, so I'm not up to anything. No, I'm not. But week 17 of the showcase game. Yeah, you know who the Colts are playing week 17. Yeah, but the teams don't even know the schedule right now. True. Yeah. Son of a bitch.

Or do they? Well, I don't know. Do you really even know the schedule right now. True. Yeah. Son of a bitch. Or do they? Well, I don't know. Do you really care about the schedule? No, no, but it's something for us to talk about. There's God forbid time we're in right now. Time to circle some games on the calendar. Hey, I mean, you're breaking news on every other show but this one. There ain't much to talk about, dude.

You know what let's talk about? Congratulations to Dr. Laurent Tardif Duvernay. Yeah. Shout out. Oui, oui. Good boy, Doc. Oui, oui. Merci beaucoup pour tuer service to a Canadian.

Bonne chance. But welcome back to NFL. Oui. Enchanté. Yeah, oui, oui. The offensive lineman for the Kansas City Chiefs who opted out of last season, not because he felt like it was unsafe to play in the NFL, but because he wanted to utilize his doctorate

and go take care of people and serve as a part-time worker back in Canada for 10 months as a doctor. He said this will make him a better physician. Thank you all for your sacrifices, the people that he worked alongside of, the nurses, the orderlies, and doctors, in which the sentence he missed a comma, which is interesting. He is a doctor, but he is going back to the Kansas City Chiefs. That offensive line is completely revamped. A doc is back in the building. Good for Patrick Mahomes

and hopefully this guy doesn't stink after one year off in being a superhero, you know? Who all do they have new to their O-line now with him coming back? Is there room for him? They got Kyle Long out there. Orlando Brown. Joe Tooney.

The doc the Doc. Doc. And then what, Osemele was the other one? Of course. That's right. Of course. I don't know about Eric Fisher on the Colts. Aren't you excited about that?

Pumped one year, $9.5 million. They won't rush him back. It's a long season. But they are looking to shore up a key position there at left tackle. Duvernay coming back, though. I mean, I'm pumped for this guy. You think he's going to stink? Do you think at any point while he was doing the real-world work out there, he was like, I should have fucking stayed in Kansas City.

What am I doing here? They were running there. He's like, what am I doing here? And then they see Patrick Mahomes running for his life in the Super Bowl. He's like, I wonder if he had any of that. I know he saved lives. I understand that. But I do wonder if there's a human aspect to that at all.

Whenever he sees Patrick just flying around in the Super Bowl, he's like, oh, I could have been there. He's coming back to the team. Maybe they'll go make another run. Seems like it may be him and Kyle Long battling for that right guard spot. Okay, so he was saving lives. Kyle Long was moving bodies. That's what he's been doing.

Can Tootie play something? Yeah. They said he was in a long-term care facility, so he was in an old folks home. That would be a serious 10 months. Very serious. That's not glamorous

work by any means. Especially in Canada. Canada has been completely locked down. A lot of sponge baths. I'm sure he was excited about football. What did you say? What did you say, Zito? A lot of sponge baths for the old guys and ladies.

Okay. I mean, what is your problem? He's serving his peers. Better do that than clean the bedpan. Oh, I didn't think about that. You guys. What's the bedpan? Why are you guys?

Where they take dumps, Connor. Listen, stop diminishing what Duvernay did. He wasn't cleaning toilets. Yeah, I heard what these guys were talking about. You guys didn't sit out to go be a janitor in an old folks home. What the hell? Okay, Zito. Hey, talk to Zito.

Don't talk to me about that. No, you do. You do. You do. This is a disgusting joke. This is disgusting. Canada not have plumbing? I am so sick of this.

We got to get to a break. You guys are appalled. I'm me too. What the hell is wrong with you guys? I may be muting mics on the other side. Hell yeah. Please. It is part of the other side. Hell yeah. Please. It is part of the job, though.

You don't. Surgeons aren't doing that. You don't get it. You just don't get it. You're a bad guy. Okay? I never once said anything about Spun. He's a doctor.

He's not giving Spun's breath. Why not? Oh, you think he's changing underwear and bedpans? He's MD, dude. Get rid of the soil of laundry. We talked about taking things out of context. This isn't Doogie Howser, AJ. Who's taking anything out of...

It's a great show. How about when it opens with him typing, right? Oh, yeah. That was a good open. I did watch that show. That guy's a good dancer. MPH, yeah. He is.

Neil Patrick Harris can move. MPH, yeah. He is. Neil Patrick Harris can move. Doogie can move. He did that Kid Genius show too. It was really good. Did you see that? Did you watch that Kid Genius show? No, what was that? I knew they could only do one season. There's no way there was more than just that group of kids.

It was fucking unbelievable. Smartest kids on earth all went into Neil Patrick Harris' stage set thing and just battled it out and embarrassed everybody. It was unbelievable. Smartest kids on earth all went into Neil Patrick Harris' stage set thing and just battled it out and embarrassed everybody. It was unbelievable. They were memorizing like 75 word sentences. They were doing like 9 times

56 times 338 divided by 5 and then they would do it. And then they would get it. As soon as the number would leave them at 1,220 and they got it wrong, they'd be like, you know, to the... What? And then they just immediately... Shit in me? And then they would get... It was awesome. They'd get... As soon as the number would leave them at 1,220, and they got around, they'd be like, no.

Like, it's all right, dude. Hey, it's okay. You were close. Hey, don't worry about it. You're okay, but it was a good show. Neil Patrick Harris. I think he's won a... He's going for the EGOT.

Oh, yeah. Oh. Does he have a Tony? He definitely has a Tony. He definitely has a Tony. He hosts the Tonys, I think. Definitely has an Emmy, right? With Doogie.

He got... How I Met Your Mother? I think he won one for Doogie. He got butchered in Gone Girl. Yeah. He got the O from Harold and Kumar, though. Bro, can we get an Emmy? AJ, will you please introduce yourself to some people

when you're doing all these goddamn shit? People are probably putting all the inside information that AJ's putting on their shows into their Emmy reels. Yeah. And winning them. It's unbelievable at this point. AJ? I think Neil.

What did he say? He's going to give us a quote about Neil Patrick Harris and a follow-up stat, I think. Please do. He what? He hosted the Emmys. He's definitely got an Emmy. He's done it all. If you host all of them, is that

like a better? No. And he was nominated every year for How I Met Your Mother. Well, I want to let you know, Golden Globes are disgusting. I'm happy they canceled them. Cruz is about done with it. He's given all his tropes. About goddamn time. Bullshit! I agree. I think he won an Emmy for hosting the Tony Awards.

Thank you. All right. God, holy shit. Yeah, so, I mean, that's what you do. Can he win a Grammy by singing on the Tony Award? Recording it, putting it out? Live performance. Yeah, good.

And he's hosted the Academy Awards. He's the best new artist. He was nominated for a Grammy in 2015. Triple threat. Hey, Doogie is a fucking killer He's gonna win the Oscar when they fucking reboot Doogie In five years and the movie comes out Bingo

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deadlifts in the middle of the Jacksonville Jaguars new workout facility because Jeff Darlington of ESPN is allegedly reporting that there are some people in the building in Jacksonville that are not thrilled with the signing of Tim Tebow. Oh no. Urban Meyer is going to try and find whoever said people are and get them out of the building, I would assume, at this point. Welcome to the NFL, Mr. Urban Meyer. This is every single move you make, every breath you take, they'll be watching you, dude.

And that's just how it goes. And do you think this was potentially Schlegel? Or do you think Schlegel will be hired to go find out who this is, potentially giving the information to Darlington, allegedly? I think Schlegel's the kind of guy that would be hired to find out who this was. You could not ever say anything like

this to embarrass a future teammate who it may be. All this is doing is putting some pressure on Tim to come in. And the good thing is, if Tim is Tim, he can win over the team pretty quickly if he shows he's gonna work and he's not you know he just fits in with the dudes like he'll be fine i'm gonna work harder than everybody i'm gonna give everything i got because i love this city i'm from this city i was born here raised here i'm gonna end my career here in the yeah yeah yeah yeah

that's the reaction he would get definitely in the nfl locker room right uh-huh yeah yeah i'm sure all right dude i'm trying to get a fucking paycheck and win some games i will see you um it's fascinating though like urban meyer's reaction to potential leaks that people aren't happy with the decision he made. You know, like that is because, you know, colleges, coaches are, I don't want to say they're all that way, but I would assume they all have a, you know, a power field because you are the gateway for the future for a lot of people, whether it's education or football wise, you plan out every single member of your team and your staff's days year-round.

Every single day is like this. You're doing this at this time. Whoever comes in the building is by your decision finally, and whoever exits the building is by your decision finally. And then you get in the NFL, and it's like, okay, there's a scouting department potentially that has never been in college or has maybe been there, and they're like, we're wasting a roster spot with fucking Tim Tebow.

I scouted four tight ends that we could potentially make real players. We're wasting a spot. That information gets out. I wonder how Urban handles that. You know, like, do you think he will, if this is real, by the way, who knows if this is real. It's being reported allegedly, so I guess it is something that has to be talked about.

But how do you think Urban would handle that? Do you think he would, like, hey, we got to – what you see, say, and hear here stays here? It has to stay here? Like what do you think? How do you build that, I wonder? Because that's a part of building your culture too, by the way. I mean, yeah, it is. But I think Urban also understands like it's different now than it was 20 years ago.

He was coaching college not too long ago. So he understands that you can't really keep everything in. I'm sure there's things you want to you want to stay there i guess the only question for tim tebow though will be in urban is if tim comes in say he's in training camp and he just can't play and he's not good because that's when people will be like hey man i got like three buddies that are tight ends that are way better than this dude but what what's happening in the media will ask them about tim and it's going to be uh so hopefully for tim's sake and everybody else that he can play. Or by the way, if he can't, there's

acknowledgement by both sides and he goes into a coaching role or maybe trains for another year as a coach there as something like that. However they want to figure that out, they both come to that point. But if they think he's good, give him a chance. Do what you got to do.

I don't know know the thought of that information getting out i assume pisses off urban mario urban urban knows that you can only dress 53 and not 100 and tim like can't stay on the sideline and do this before kickoffs but if you do and also before you come out of the tunnel yeah oh yeah before you come out of the tunnel you know the the sway and then it doesn't urban like pace in front too i think he is a pacer in front of the entire thing. He's going to do that. You don't think he's doing that?

Colts got a little – they got a motorcycle with a sidecar. Yeah, that's awesome. Comes flying out. You know what I mean? Wait, does the coach ever ride in the sidecar? No, no, no. Chuck would not get in there. I don't think Frank Reich's getting in there as well.

You earn, you win as a member of Colts Nation a chance to sit in that side part. That's right. Right there as you're coming out on a Harley out there. Let's go, boys! Holding the flag. Yeah. That'd be pretty heavy. Yeah.

It's awesome. Let's go get them. But if Urban's coming out down there in Duval, and you know him and Timmy are just fucking standing out there in the front. Locked arms. And he's turning around and he's like, One for me, two for you, three for me, and we ready. And Tebow's like going there with Urban Meyer, you know what I mean? And then they're sprinting out.

Jacksonville flags. And then Jackson, the goddamn mascot, he's coming down skydiving from the clouds because that is what he does before every fucking game. And then they're actually sold out. The pools, both of them are packed to the gills. Oh, man, I can see it now. I can see it now, AJ. What a moment that would be. It feels like you've got to

hammer Tebow scoring a touchdown week one because they've got to get on the right side of this PR-wise. What do you think Tebow has? No, you're saying he's playing. I'm saying he could potentially do this if he wasn't playing as well. Khakis, like white, like a three-quarter. Yeah, yeah, that whole thing. And him and Urban are just staying out there about to go to war.

Edge, edge, edge, edge. Yelling that. All right. He could suit up. Maybe, yeah. Trevor tells him, hey, Tim, get the fuck off the field. Give me Jimmy O'Shaughnessy in here. Hey, Trevor, how long do you think these younger quarterbacks will get to that?

I don't think these younger quarterbacks have as many human to human interactions and this is maybe like a generational thing but i don't think there's as many human to human interactions as there used to be and that's like the only form of communication back in the day was interacting with people now obviously it is much different it is an entire thing you know you text you you do you're kind of I don't say isolated you talk obviously but I think the you know the potential disagreement or the potential like hey this is how this goes I don't know if there's a lot of those anymore I'm not a hundred percent sure I'm not a kid anymore I don't really know that but I wonder because it feels like all these younger guys are just cool dudes like just like super cool super happy-go-lucky

which by the way, I enjoy that. Like, I think that's a cool thing to have. But at quarterback, I think the best do have a little bit of that. Fuck you. Like, do you think, you know, like I would assume there's always different ways to win. And obviously, like, I don't know if Russell Wilson's out there saying anything like that. And that's you don't have to win to do that. But I do believe it's quarterback position. That is trait that is something you know you can definitely have and i

wonder how many will continue to have that i don't know will that change i wonder well they i think they still like have face-to-face interactions they still have to deal with people but they probably just deal with a lot less people than maybe you and i did when we were in school like when i was in school yeah i had to go to class every day. I'm walking through campus. You're having tons of interactions now. I guess they probably don't have nearly as many, especially a guy like Trevor Lawrence. He can't walk out of his college house or wherever he lives. Everybody knows that dude, especially on Clemson's campus.

Like, how can he even be there? You think there's any chance Trevor Lawrence, and I hope he does this, by the way, he probably, I assume Urban doesn't want him to do this at this point or whatever but I hope next season at some point we see Trevor Lawrence go to somebody get off the field I just hope there is I just because he seems like such a nice guy like cool guy super likable guy has had to be like okay all good everything's cool because he's been in the spotlight for so long man I I enjoy the thought of a quarterback having that. Just because I saw – now, Andrew did not act the same way.

But Peyton, obviously, watching him kind of get that. And then Andrew towards the end, I think he would start having a little bit more command and saying, like, hey, I want to do this. And you have to earn that, I think. I don't know if Trevor's just going to be able to just jump in there and feel confident enough to do that. But, man, once you start seeing a quarterback start doing shit like that, I get, like, real excited.

I'm like, okay, this guy. This guy's going to go. This guy is going to go. He cares. Yeah. It shows that you see how much the dude cares. He may not like it, but you definitely respect it, and you respect the fact that, hey, this guy absolutely wants to win,

so he's going to make all of us better. I think Kyler Murray had a couple. I think Larry Fitzgerald or maybe Nukeke he came out and said that kyler murray people think he's like calm and reserved or whatever but he will like say like hey need you to do this need you to do that i think kyler has a chance especially with the way they're building that team i think kyler is going to be like watching him last year when shit was going good it was electrifying i mean must see tv i would assume whenever these stadiums get back to being packed which by the way the governor of new jersey said we'd be killed basically i mean not exactly but basically said we'd be covered probably

yeah uh gonna have full stadiums at MetLife or whatever. I think the governor was going on with, you know, like, hey, there's going to be a lot of other things that have to happen. But all I read and heard was we'd be going full stadiums. That's all I read. But when Kyler is playing, like the thought of Kyler going against any other massive, you know, team or name, that is going to be must-see TV. And if he does continue to have it, like, hey, I need you to do this, not just because it's me being selfish,

but because it's better for everybody if we do it this way because we're all winning and it's working, like, I think that's a massive piece. And who will get to that point quickest, I wonder? And you add A.J. Green. Like, that offense is going to be unbelievable. It's hard not to see them completely go all in. What's the owner's name over there? Bidwell, right?

Well, I think you only have five years with Kyler. He'll be playing in the MLB at some point. He did tell us that he always thinks about it. That didn't make any news at all, by the way. That didn't make any news at all whenever he said that on the show. I mean, you look at Mahomes' new deal. It's like in his situation he probably could with his next contract he'd probably make more money than he'd make playing baseball like he's not going to

command that kind of money right away used to be very different oh yeah used to be baseball was where all the money was you didn't have to take any of the hits now it's a grind because you're on the road a lot and it's a lot of games and there's a lot of failure in baseball and everything like that but if you want the money you got to go to baseball if you're a multi-sport. Now with the Patrick Mahomes deal, the alleged Aaron Rodgers deal, that's good news for the NFL if those contracts are starting to get bigger than the baseball contracts, AJ. But how many contracts?

One, two are bigger than baseball? Yeah, yeah. It's going to be hard to get. You've got to start somewhere. It's going to be hard. And they're not fully guaranteed like baseball. True. And, by the way, baseball, you've got to hit the fuck out of that baseball

to make a lot of money. And I'm not saying Kyler can't. I'm not saying Kyler can't. Over and over again, too. You have to be consistent with him. You have to be very – I mean, that's a monotonous job, too. Oh, yeah. Oh, my God.

On the road, you're living in hotels, you're gone. You've got to do this super boring game every night too. Somehow you've got to stay excited and entertained while also working. I mean, that is a tough, tough league to succeed in. Yeah, it is. Is baseball happening right now? Oh, yeah. You bet.

Sox are good, I heard. Fucking Yanks are all the way back. Sox are number one in the latest power rankings. Ken Laird and Chris Curtis did not tell me that, but I do like to hear that the Red Sox are potentially good because the Bruins are going to lose to the Caps. That's not true. Plus, Ken and Curtis aren't talking baseball.

I don't even know what they're talking about, but the Bruins are going to town on Saturday, and they're crushing Char in the cap. Hey, NHL playoffs start this weekend, AJ. Yeah. That's big. That is big. Yeah, I knew that, of course. Oh, my God. Let's get to the phones. I, NHL playoffs start this weekend, AJ. Yeah. That's big. That is big. Yeah, I knew that, of course.

Oh, my God. Spits in the phones. I thought you were a fan. Actually, I know the Blue Jackets season ending because Tortorella isn't the coach. Yeah, Torts is out. He got canned. Torts got canned. He quit, I think. Where's he going? His contract was up. Both parties walked away. It stinks. He said, give me another stupid city. He should sign on with

ESPN to be an analyst. He'd be awesome. Oh, because the NHL does have an ESPN package. They also got what? Turner? Yeah. Yeah, NHL got Turner. You should go coach Putin's team.

Let's go to Dan and Penn. They are undefeated. Yeah. Torch with Putin. He might score 18 goals next year. Putin's team, I've looked at their schedule. I think they're going undefeated. Really?

Clean sweep. I think Vladimir Putin's hockey team is going to go undefeated in Russian hockey. They're going to take the Putin Cup. It seems that way. I mean, last night, 13-9. He had eight goals. Got to short that defense, though. Yeah.

Nine goals. Nine goals is a lot. That goalie. A lot of two-way hockey. Will not be with us for the next game. A two-way hockey? Yeah, what are you talking about? I can assure you,

Booten was a plus eight last night. He was not on the ice for a goal. Did you not see him come right down the middle of the ice? He sliced the defense. Got a one-timer fucking Topchad Bardanski against Marc-Andre Fleury. Yeah. You think if Booten doesn't play,

they win or lose? They lose. Obviously. This is an Poon doesn't play, they win or lose? They lose. Obviously. This is an Aaron Rodgers and Green Bay type situation. Let's go to the phones. Fucking triple deke last night. Here we go, boys. He did, didn't he?

Yeah. He had two one-timers that I seen. Yeah. Clean up the trash. Did the Goy make any saves on him, though? Has the Goy ever made a save? How many shots did Vladimir have? We did not get a chance to see how many shots. He had eight shots.

I don't think he missed either. That's what we're talking about. He's fucking had that goalie's number for years now. He does have a new helmet this year, I could tell. New visor. And look at him just kind of sit in the hole in the defense, right in front of the goalie. Kind of gets behind him.

Hockey IQ knows how to find the soft areas. Posters. Hey, that's where Sid hangs out. Down where Putin was hanging out. Right where Sidney Crosby's hanging out. Down near the net. Okay, and then this one is the one. Yeah.

Slice into defense. Boom. Snapshot. Wrister. Top ched. How you doing? Pass. And probably his third goal of the night.

Wow. That's where mama keeps the cookies. Top shelf. You're damn right. And the hats came flying the night. Wow. That's where mama keeps the cookies. Top shelf. You're damn right. And the hats came flying over there. Yeah. They were the ones with the big long ear things that had a lot of fur on them because it's cold as shit. Those were the hats that were being thrown as Vladimir put one talk chat here for his hat trick. Congrats.

Another secured dub. Thank you, boo. That a boy, bud. He does have to upgrade his skating a little bit, though. Are we worried that he wasn't moving as fast as he had in previous years? Hey, you remember Happy Gilmore? Son of a bitch couldn't skate. That's right.

But whenever you're a natural goal scorer, they will find a way to put you on the ice. And that's what Vladimir Putin did. Did you not see him parked in front? What'd you say? Happy Gilmore played golf because he couldn't skate. Well, Putin could do that, too, if he wanted to. Well, yeah, of course.

Let's go to Morty and Bob. We are not getting back into the Kim Jong-un versus Vladimir Putin. I do believe Vladimir wins. In our decathlon that we put together, I think Vladimir Putin does beat Kim Jong-un. You've got to put your world leader decathlon together. Well, I think it's a dictator decathlon.

Yeah. A decathlon. A dictathlon. I mean putin's long irons are fucking better than just about anyone's in the world i guarantee you that i heard they offered him to be in that premier golf oh yeah yeah now kim jong did shoot an 18 on 18 holes so we can't discount his ability as well but i do think it was dustin johnson brooks kepka uh i believe they called uh more kawa spieth rory spieth and then vladimir putin and kim jong-un let's go to the phones let's go to anthony in kansas city what's going

on anthony how's it going aj huh great patty and the boys how we doing you know probably our worst show we've ever had today probably but hey first thing thank you first thing I want to say is uh fuck that scumbag Adam Cole it's been a while thank you fuck that agreed I'm back AJ agree secondly no I didn't tell him to shut up this weekend yeah you did thank you you. Congrats on Eric Fisher going to the Colts. I'm going to miss him here in KC. That's a big one. Absolutely. And then shout out to the Cauliflower Brothers down in the wrestling

program of the University of Missouri. But my question for you guys is what rookie has the best chance of playing and starting in a playoff game? What do you think? Okay. Thank you, Anthony. Great question. We have no idea. Okay? We have no clue. best chance of playing and starting in a playoff game what do you think okay thank you anthony great question we have no idea okay we have no clue what was the question again who which rookie has the best chance to start in a playoff game and play in a playoff game now i guess the the

easiest answer would be trey lance okay because that team is built to go on a run, especially if they don't get hit by COVID or their city kicking them out of their stadium or injuries or anything like that. I think Trey Lance, depending upon how good Jimmy G does, which could be incredible, I think that Matt Jones maybe with how much money they spent, but the AFC East with the Buffalo Bills, that could be difficult, just like the Niners. I'm not sure, AJ, your thoughts on rookie quarterback positions

that are maybe set up for success early? I think Mac Jones possibly. I'm not saying he's going to start the season at quarterback, but by the time the playoffs roll around, Mac Jones might be the guy with Cam having some kind of package moved in. I think the Patriots, I would imagine Connor thinks they're going to make the playoffs, right? Yeah, absolutely.

But with Trey Lance, we were just talking about the Cardinals. That division's absurd. Yeah, it's not good. Stafford over there now, too? Yeah, there's more spots in the playoffs, which is good. They'll probably open that up even more. And it's kind of like, you know, in the NBA, big sports show,

Steph Curry gets in the playoffs, he's a problem. That's right. And if he has to play the Lakers in a playing game, it's LeBron or Steph. I'll be excited to see what the NBA refs decide to do. Not saying that they would ever do anything, but you need LeBron in the playoffs. And on the flip side, the way Steph is playing currently, which is how he started his career kind of with Golden State,

you need him in the playoffs too because he changed basketball completely with how good he was and how good he is right now. The NBA is an interesting situation. And you now, AJ, what we're about to do is we're about to hand over the show to Boston Conner to set the table on what we should all be thinking about in this NBA run that's about to take place. AJ, do you feel confident in Conor's ability to break down the NBA, the future of the NBA, and what we should be betting on

in the next two to three minutes here? I feel 100% confident. All right, let's go, Conor. All right, Conor, you watch every single night. Don't fuck it up. Yes, I do. So the playing game starts next week, a week from today. Warriors play the Lakers, so they both can get in

because the winner of that game goes. The loser plays the winner of the nine versus the ten. Oh, so they'll be able to get two games out of Steph. Yeah, they'll both get in. LeBron's winning that first game. Exactly. Because he's not as many games on the ankle. Yep.

Then Steph will win that second game. Then they're both in. But Steph's going to score 40 in both of those games. That's right. Okay. Plus, it probably won't really matter anyways because they will get LeBron to the finals no matter what. Okay, so the Lakers are making the finals in the West. In the West, probably.

In the East, I mean, we said this when James Harden got traded. It's the Nets. You know, there's no one. No matter what. No matter what. I would put the Nets no matter what. Gumpy mentioned the Bucs yesterday. That coach is coaching for his life.

But unfortunately with KD, Kyrie, Blake Griffin, everybody that went to the Nets is the Brooklyn Nets' conference to lose here. James Harden. James Harden. Big congrats to Russell Westbrook last night. Nice triple doubles in NBA history, okay? He's not just scoring, all right? He's not dishing.

He's either getting rebounds or steals as well throughout his entire career. You're talking about an all-around player, shows up at any court, wins every game on both sides of the court. Congrats to Russell Westbrook, hell of a run. I'd assume he is very frustrated that he is not at one of the teams that have all the good players that are winning championships. Yeah, because their team does kind of think they will probably be in a playing game against the Indiana Pacers. True.

How are the Pacers? Are we pretty good? Pacers stink as well. Yeah, they're not great. But, you know, they'll turn around next year when they get Jason Kidd in as the head coach, hopefully. Jason Kidd's coming out here? Yeah, that's what the hot coach right now is for the Pacers.

I passed the NBA ball to Jason Kidd one time. Was the head coach of the Fox? No, he was playing. Oh. I got Pacers. I passed the NBA ball to Jason Kidd one time. Was the head coach of the Bucs? No, he was playing. Oh. I got a board. I was sitting underneath the board. Take it, Jason.

Take it. Take it. And then he pointed at the ref. Ref grabbed it, gave it to Jason. I was about a foot and a half away from him. My hand was about a foot and a half away from holding the ball. Take it. What the hell? Take it. And he wouldn't take it. Pointed at the ref. and a half away from holding the ball. Take it. What the hell? Take it.

And he wouldn't take it. Pointed at the ref. Ref took it. Gave the ball to Jason. What's that about? I don't know. Somebody right next to me said, fuck you, kid. Nice.

It was very nice of them. But I thought I could put that. It was a pretty big moment. I think it was like third, fourth quarter or two. It was a tight game. I forget who he was playing for. He's going to be head coach back here? Yeah, should be.

I'm going to try to pass him the ball one time. Try to get back into his good graces. Well, and he had that really cool thing where he was walking on the court with the cup of ice, and he told his player to hit me so that they could get a little time out to play a game. That's really what he did? Oh, yeah, when he was with the Nets. So whenever he was playing, he was always wondering

why his coach wouldn't do that to get him a breath. Yes. Can we not just spill something here so I can get a breather? And then he carried that into his coaching. Yeah, he said, bump into me, bump into me. You got to remember, Mike Tomlin tackled a guy. That's right. Jacoby Jones.

That's right. No, he lost track of where he was at. Yeah, still tackled a guy. Whatever. Trapped him. All right, that's basketball. I found out last night people do not like Russell Westbrook. Yeah, why is that?

I don't get that either. They say he pads stats or something like that? Like there was a video of him missing the game-winning shot last night, and then underneath the first 1,000 comments were just tearing him apart. Why? Why is that, AJ? Why do you think people hate Russell Westbrook? I mean, I think don't they respect the way he plays,

but then people probably get annoyed with how over the top he is? He's so damn competitive. It seems like he's trying to take everybody's soul. I think he's a guy that could transition into the NFL, by the way, just with his like, you know, I think he could transition very easily. His slot is built well. He seems to be, well, I'm talking about mentally. It's just like I feel like he has that like win at all costs thing.

He went from Oklahoma to Houston, right? Yeah. And then Houston to Washington now? Yeah. And whenever he went to Houston, him and James Harden said, we just ain't doing this anymore. We're out of here. Pretty much.

And James Harden said, I ain't playing. I'm going to an adult ballet in Vegas, actually. Yeah, it is. And then everybody's going to paint me as a bad guy, but I'm going to get the fuck out of here. His team stinks. Go get a ring. He goes to the Nets, and then Westbrook goes to Washington

and kind of just gets tripled doubles, but they lose all the time. Yep. That kind of stinks for us. The best player on the team was out, so Bradley Beal was not playing. Oh, yeah, Bradley Beal did something. He pissed off somebody. Kent Bazemore, yeah. Yeah, he kind of chirped from saying guys are blowing out their hamstrings

trying to catch Steph Curry, referring to Bradley Beal, and he did not like that one bit. Bradley Beal did not like that. I saw him respond. He's a gamer, man. He doesn't sit out games. Like he was. Oh, Beal?

Yeah, he's a gamer. And who talks shit on him? Bazemore. Yeah, Bazemore today was like, hey, I was just messing around. I'm an easygoing guy. I'll say it easy. I don't want any beef with Bradley Beal. Can't thank you enough for choosing to listen to this show.

Today was one of those days we told you early, going to be absurd. Yeah. Going to be ridiculous. Yeah. early gonna be absurd. Yeah. Gonna be ridiculous. Yeah. Gonna be stupid. Yeah. Gonna be dumb. Mm-hmm. Gonna be a show that makes you go how did I just pass two

hours with these guys? Yeah. Hey more power to you if you did. Appreciate you so so much. You have no idea how much we appreciate you. Hashtag end of pod squad. I think we have to give away some more money for people that stuck around to the end of this show. We'll be back tomorrow. Be a friend, tell a friend. Ty, please play some independent music and propel these people into a beautiful Tuesday before a massive Wednesday.

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