The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 413 - NFL Schedule Release, Ian Rapoport, John Kuhn, and AJ Hawk

Episode Date: May 12, 2021

Today's show jumps right into the right into the latest news surrounding the NFL schedule release for the 2021 season. The HammerDAHN boys come in early to talk about their way to early favorite lines for Week 1. Pat dips his toes into the NFL insider pool, and breaks the schedule details of Tom Brady and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers traveling to New England for their week 4 matchup which will be the prime time night game of the week. Pat is joined by the boys and AJ Hawk like usual to continue the discussion. Insider for the NFL Network, Ian Rapoport joins the show comes on to talk about the latest scheduling rumors circling the internet and the official announcement of schedules expected to be released later tonight. AJ Hawk the insider to the insiders has no news to break so he phoned his former teammate and friend John Kuhn, the former Packers Full Back sadly had no insider updates on the Aaron Rodgers drama. The episode ends with Pat, AJ, and all the boys speculating what will happen with the rest of the NFL. Make sure you subscribe to YouTube.com/thepatmcafeeshow and listen everyday on Mad Dog Sports Radio on Sirius XM Chanel 82. We appreciate you all for listening, come and laugh with us, cheers.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

hello wednesday may 12th 2021 big show ty massive show today john coon a.j hawk and the boys we can't thank you enough for spending time with us if by the end of this thing you like it please be a friend tell the friend if not just act like it never ever happened right yep see ya see you later we'll see you on the other side of this thing uh there it is here we go what a day wednesday may 12 2021 is tonight the nfl schedule will be officially released although the internet has found a lot of games which have already been leaked out from the schedule release we'll go through a lot of those obviously the big one is tampa and the Dallas Cowboys will kick off the season on September 9th in Tampa Bay Florida Tom Brady is a six-point favorite in that game

against Dak Prescott in the Dallas Cowboys I will be hammering with the biggest hammer I have I wish I had two more hands so I could swing four of these motherfucking hammers. The Tampa Bay Buccaneers, September 9th on Thursday, minus six. I think it's going to be an awesome game. I love the Dax coming back. I like that we see Zeke in the star-studded cast of the Dallas Cowboys. But let's all remember that if Tom Brady and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers are playing anywhere near how they

were playing at the end of last year, which let's assume they won't, let's assume it will be towards the end of the regular season last year though, that team is nowhere near its peak. We have seen nothing of what they'll be able to become, I believe. They're probably going to win that thing by three scores, but that is what schedule release day is all about. Looking ahead, knowing that football season is right around the corner And although we're sitting in a drought filled with sports that maybe it's tough to care about every single day Football season trigger Stadiums are gonna be filled

Rivalries will be reignited with a showcase game for the Week 17 game where teams that don't normally play against each other will be playing against each other. Two trips to London. There's a couple Thanksgiving games per normal, but Christmas is going to be electrifying with the Browns and the Packers playing. I mean, there's a lot to look forward to in football. It's right around the corner. To join us in the first hour, the Hammer Don boys at Bubba Gumpino, at Tone Diggs, the COVID cowboy, Boston Connor, Ty Schmidt in here,

all the boys in the back. Appreciate the hell out of everybody for joining us here on Sirius XM, Channel 82, Mad Dog Sports Radio, and YouTube.com forward slash The Pat McAfee Show. Before we get into the NFL schedule, and I know the Hammer Down boys have some, I would assume, early predictions on why lines are being favored in certain fashions. The Colts are favored by two at home against the Seahawks opening week. Fascinating to me.

That means they must think Carson Wentz is going to be a guy. Because if he's not going to be a guy, let's assume Russell Wilson potentially can win any game, especially early in the season. Remember last year, early in the season last year? Russell Wilson was the MVP. That's right. He had everybody's vote first week, second week, third week. That team got hot.

You know, Pete Carroll chewing gum. They're competing now. Allegedly behind the scenes, there was potential, you know, a war happened. They got past it. They're back. The Colts are favored by two. The sportsbooks must know something. We don't know.

But before we get to that and more thoughts like that, and that's why, you know, even though schedule release meant nothing to me for a long time. Sure. That's right. When I was in the league, I mean, it meant something. When are we going to the cold-ass cities? When do I have to punt in a wind tunnel if we're going to Pittsburgh

or Cleveland or Buffalo or something, anywhere and also on the flip side when are we in some domes are we in domes late, that would be cool but then immediately after that it's like, okay, I don't really care let's go ahead and move along, when is the bye that is definitely something, but after that let's move on

right now for us it really does feel like a nice little you know, like hey like hey football like the draft it was like free agency happens it's like okay here we go new year all right then the draft happens it's like okay still very early then it's like schedule release it's like wait a minute and then there's allegedly there's going to be some um now this might be some sort of breaking news. I think teams and players from teams are trying to figure out how to make the OTA thing work. What do we have to do to bring you guys back in the building? Because we don't think, and I would assume this is just from my sources, three of them.

I was going to say two from one particular, one from another bucket of people. But three particular sources told me that teams are potentially talking to their players, asking them, hey, how do we, what do we need to do? So the teams, and this is fascinating because I think this is how the United States of America is supposed to work. Okay. Oh. Okay. So the United States of America, and now we all know I read books. All of them.

A ton of them. All of them. Every one you had to. I believe the United States of America is supposed to work as, like, hey, there's federal regulations, obviously, but each state, I think at the beginning, was supposed to operate as its own country almost.

Okay? You run your own shit, and then there's federal shit that you guys can't do. Now, it feels like there's a lot more federal stuff that happens before the states do stuff and then there's individual stuff like the sports gambling the recreational marijuana you're kind of seeing that but i feel like that's how it's supposed it feels like that's potentially what teams and teams players are thinking about doing like hey we are in this obvious big umbrella nfl pa nfl that's a massive umbrella but within here how can we make this work

what do we need to do because we might be able to do something for our building that you guys feel is makes it safe enough for to come back in that other buildings maybe don't want to do or want to we want to do i feel like that is happening with some teams so i think we'll hear some updates maybe from players or teams within the next couple weeks okay so i think that will be something you'll hear where maybe they'll be adjusted somehow to make some things happen. I'm not sure you'll see an overarching like, hey, this is what we agreed upon for the NFL

and the NFLPA, but I think you will potentially hear about segments, which we did start to hear a little bit with the players. There was like 10 teams or 15 teams or 20 teams or however many teams it was. I think you're going to start hearing that happen around. But aside from that, I mean, once that happens, it's like, okay, we are in the season.

We're off. Here we go. We're back in it. There's a lot of things to look forward to, but right now we're in the dead time. So what are we watching tonight? Charlie and Chocolate Factory. Oh, really? Is that right?

What a classic. How was it? First time watching it. So I didn't know if it was my first time watching it or not when the movie started. But I had seen the Johnny Depp one so I saw the Johnny Depp one and I get it I always got it I always understood the conversation

I had not seen this Gene Wilder one I'll tell you what, my wife wanted to watch it or whatever she enjoys I think whenever she finds out that I've missed a pretty normal moment of everybody else's kind of life or whatever. She enjoys it. She kind of mocks me, but she does enjoy watching me.

That's a creepy fucking movie, dude. Whoa. That's a creepy movie. Hey, there's a lot of. How so? How about the guy with, I mean, no spoilers, right? No, it's all right. I came out in 1982.

No spoilers. Spoilers, right? No, it's all right. I came out in 1982. No, spoilers. The scar guy? Yeah, with the monocle? Who slides in and grabs the child and whispers in the ear and everything like that?

Could you imagine that happening live on the news? Like right now, that'd be like the weirdest thing. Well, get that fucking Scarface guy out of the kids. They'd put a bullet in their face. And then it's every single time. Then, I mean, I don't want to get right to it, but, I mean, arguably the biggest bum in the history of bums, fucking Grandpa Joe. And let's not let George slide either.

I mean, his ass has been in Georgina and Joe and Josephine or whatever. They've been in a bed for 20 fucking years. And then all of a sudden, hey, fresh as a day. And I listened to Jimome go off on it here this morning ty introduced me to the jim rome jim rome really paints a beautiful picture that guy maybe being the worst human of all time and i i enjoyed that he was an optimist you know he was the only one that was telling charlie there like hey you have the same amount of chance of winning as everybody else now that was that was a fucking boldface lie from the bum that is grandpa joe

because there was there was families buying all the fucking boxes. Yeah, it was an entire chocolate store. By the way, listen, we're probably going to do some sort of golden ticket type of thing. Oh, that was a great idea. I mean, I used to hope that... It's never not worked. All we have to hope is that there's one kid

who has a uber-rich parent that just buys all of our stock. Yeah. There was a lady whose husband was getting kidnapped and he was being held hostage. If she gave up her box of Willy Wonka chocolate bars, they would let him go. She said no. Can't do it. No way.

I mean, what a brilliant marketing but anyways he was positive with charlie he was the only one in charlie's life that was positive with him by the way charlie seemed like a real go-getter that kid he was fucking humble working his ass off yeah i love that charlie kid okay i wish i wish there was more charlie's out there but with that being said the mom negative is fuck it makes sense because she's working exactly i mean she's been beat down for years now she's taking care of this sack of shit grandpa joe and the other ones who kind of just get off the hook i mean yeah because grandpa joe's doing a dance and the shanty looks a lot smaller than whenever they get up to i got the golden ticket it was massive because they were

doing a full on oh yeah charlie dancing into the jacket the whole thing. But that was just seconds after it was being sold that he was a paraplegic, right? Yeah, pretty much. 20 years. Hasn't been out of bed in 20 years. Just a lot of questions. I understand that it survived and they made another one, but I got a lot of questions. It's not to let Charlie off the hook either.

I mean, what a scumbag. You know, you got your four grandparents laying there. He's like, yeah, you know what? I think I'll take Grandpa Joe. I mean, of those other three. Grandpa Joe was the only one telling him he had a chance to win, though. And they were talking to the other three. They were just locks.

They were just locks. Yeah, can the other three even walk? You know, Grandpa Joe can't. Well, if Charlie would have been like, hey, show me a little excitement and maybe I'll fucking take you with me. I mean, Grandpa Joe. What do you want to make? You want to make Charlie make them do song and dance?

He should have took his mom, though. He should have. Yeah, true. Charlie should have took his mom, even though his mom very, very negative. Also, could his mom get off work because nobody could cover her shift? How about all the stains on fucking Grandpa Joe's thing, too? It's a sob. Mrs. Moth.

I can only imagine what that house smelled like. Oh, Jesus. Just balls. Yeah. Terrible. Well, mothball is real ball. Like, everything would be so bad. Anyways, that movie, I get it.

I got it. Good story. All right, do your thing. Creepy. I thought it was creepy. I don't know what you guys were doing back there. And watching it now with all our technology is, I don't know how you guys felt for any of that shit being real.

It was cool. The Oompa Loompas, too. I mean, they don't get enough credit to begin with. They were being eaten and killed in their country. That is why. That's right. They got saved. Yeah, they got saved by Mr. Wonka there.

Cocoa beans. Yeah, Mr. Wonka. He's a showman. You've got to give him him that How about him limping Yeah at the start He rolls I mean Yeah come on

How about the boat And it just Turns into an acid trip Yeah so Pretty cool So that thing wasn't moving at all right And then How about when they

How about when they come out of that door And then the hallway gets smaller Oh yeah And then he Punches in a little song And it opens the whole thing how about when they come out of that door and then the hallway gets smaller? Oh, yeah. And then he punches in a little song and it opens the whole thing. And then they open the door. And I like the fact that they tried to show the door that they had come out of

the Wonka elevator or whatever, the elevator. But it was like, obviously a tiny little shitty set that they couldn't fit everybody into. I just, incredible acting. Okay. Enjoyed the movie.

Thought it was creepy. Don't know what the hype's all about. Still to this day. Don't know what the whole. I just, incredible acting. Enjoyed the movie. Thought it was creepy. Don't know what the hype's all about. Still to this day. Don't know what the hype's all about. Chocolate factory. Well, we were six. What's that? We were six.

Yeah, but I heard you guys talking about it. Everybody's all jacked up. So you're processing this movie with the mind of a highly intellectual 35-year-old man, 34-year-old man. 34-year-old man. We were six. Yeah. Well, I'm just telling you.

Situations are situational okay yeah I remember hearing what you guys said about all these movies that I've watched now for the first time as an adult

they all stink except for Fast and Furious correct alright that's true I didn't make it to the fact of learning

that that was DVDs in the back of that show you gotta start somewhere I thought it was Cacana Will Smith absolutely crushed it as the genie in the back of that show. You got to start somewhere. I thought it was called Kanye. Will Smith absolutely crushed it as the genie in the Aladdin.

Oh, yeah. Yeah, that was an absolute. Work of art. Just an absolute astonishing performance. No one saw it. Nobody cared. Everyone still knows Robin Williams is the best genie of all time. That's true.

By the way, he was. Anyway, so let's get started. What did you think about Augustus Gloop? So that kid, you know, fascinating. Yeah. Fascinating. He was inhaling food, that kid. Oh, man.

You know, I don't know how he held it. He appeared to be out of shape. Oh, yeah. His BFS. Well, that's what I'm saying. He's a fatso. But there's been some interesting bodies that have been great athletes and in shape and stuff. How did he hold his breath that long? Kid couldn't even breathe while he was eating and stuff. How do you hold his breath that long?

Kid couldn't even breathe while he was eating his donut. How do you hold his breath? Big lungs. Huh? Big lungs. No way. No way. Because you've got to have big lungs by, like, exercise.

Like, they don't just happen. Like, you don't just eat. Well, he even hails food in fucking long lungs. Oh, you think, like, the donuts go in there. He holds his breath and fucking starts munching. Anyways, if he did... Oh! Gump. Holy shit! Terrible person. Terrible person. Put the saw away. He holds his breath and fucking starts munching. Anyways, if he did... Oh, gum.

Holy shit, gum. Terrible person, gum. Put the saw away. What about... I thought Canada was supposed to be a nice country. So did I. Me too. I thought the way he was explaining it, it was like he knew that's what I was saying.

That guy's not Canadian. That guy, we all know that at this point. Anyways. I would have took competitive eater. But I didn't think Augustus was going to survive. I thought we saw a dead kid in a river right there. I thought, oh, my God, they're killing him. And then he popped up in a tube.

And I was like, okay, how's this? And then they launch him. How about them bursting through the top of the chocolate factory? And just floating around in the Wonka Vader. Pretty awesome. How about those geese? Go on. The geese?

The golden eggs. Oh, she wants them all. She wants all the those geese? Go on. The geese? The golden eggs. Oh! She wants them all. She wants all the golden geese out there. I won't get how much for a golden goose. Well, you know what? You lose. Hold on.

You get nothing. Yeah. You lose. Yeah. Good day, sir. I did not know that's where that came from. Oh, yeah. I had heard that.

I had heard that so much on sports radio. I had heard that. I had heard that so much on sports radio. I've heard that on shows, on everything. I've heard that so many times. Whenever he had his half office where everything was cut in half. Come on. The fuck is going on? Incredible. Okay, maybe. Yeah, so he goes over and he starts

impassionately doing that entire you get nothing. You lose. Good day, sir. I was like, oh my, actually, that's where this came from? And then the follow-up, he hits another thing in there in the same tone or whatever. I was like, legendary movie. That was a pretty good scene.

Yeah, the everlasting. Yeah, did not know that's where it came from. You were like a Leo meme pointing at the TV. I've seen this. I've heard this. Anyways, let's get to the schedule. All right, it was leaked last night and this morning. I did potentially know the schedule.

You did? No, because the video that I saw, that I seen, had the Colts with Houston Texans opening day. It's actually them playing the Seahawks. So I was wrong, which I'm happy we didn't just run with my shit. I'm happy we did have reconsideration. But all these things have gotten out there, and I think everybody's immediate thought is how are we gambling on it,

how are we making money? Hammered down boys in here in the first hour to discuss this perfectly. We'll start with COVID Cowboy Tone Diggs. Your thoughts on the early lines. Tampa Bay, minus six to lead off the NFL season on September 9th against Dallas. It started at six and a half. It is now down to minus six. So that means people are hammering Dallas.

Is that what that means? And what are your thoughts on some of the other lines? That one's a big one. The one that I immediately took was Browns plus 5.5 at Kansas City. Okay. Is that opening week? Yeah. So Browns-Chiefs opening week.

Yeah. That's going to be fucking awesome. Hey, let's go, NFL. Super Bowl losers are 3-16 ATS in week one. And I think the Browns are really good. The Chiefs are dealing with a new O-line. So I think it may take them a little bit to figure that out. So let me get the Browns plus 5. in week one. I think the Browns are really good. The Chiefs are dealing with a new O-line, so I think it may take them a little bit to figure that out. So let me get the Browns plus five and a half week one.

I like that bet as well. Also because the Chiefs they'll win. Okay, that's what the Chiefs do. Chiefs will win the game. But last year we all lost, and by we I mean me. I lost a lot of money on the Kansas City Chiefs because you thought about them from

the year previously in the playoffs where they were down 21-3 they were down what uh 17 uh three they had what a 10 a 20 point comeback and everything like that and then they win the super bowl against the niners and that game was very close but whenever you thought about that kansas city chiefs team it was like greatest show on turf type feel. It's like, hey, this team is going to be able to score however many points they want against that team. With Tyron Matthew, Stone Cold Chris Jones and the boys on the defensive

side, that team's very good. They're going to crush people. They're going to crush people. They're going to crush people. I thought that last year a lot. They did not crush people, but they never felt like they weren't going to win yeah we always felt like they were going to win but it wasn't like a blowout it wasn't like we're running by you it was just like hey we need uh we need a touchdown on this drive bang we got it

travis kelsey travis kelsey tyree kill travis kelsey touchdown they win ah we're still undefeated and uh sports stage lost a couple thousand. And they seem to be so happy. I'm happy for you. I'm happy you got the win. But I thought you were going to win by more. This seems like a very smart bet. I would assume a lot of people are thinking the same thing. They went nine weeks in a row last year without covering.

Oh, I know. I rode that thing, too. I was in Chiefs Kingdom for that entire run. I had to go this one, I said. I think it was after, like, third one. I was like, we all know. This is the week. This is it.

They can put 45 plays together straight if they want to and have to. Like that's what they – they haven't chosen to do so, but this week they're not going to lose four straight. They're not going to not cover four. Hey, there's no way we go into two months here, five weeks. I've got a chance. You know, all right, it's been wild. Five weeks. You know, it's been wild. Five, then six,

then seven, then eight. I rode that entire thing because I was like, at some point they're going to come back. My speech that I give every week about the Chiefs coming back to life has to stop this week. It never fucking did. I like that bet a lot. I like the Browns too. They get Odell Beckham

Jr. into an offense that was really starting to click. I assume he's going to be used well. Everybody, you know, at the end of the season, just to talk shit on Odell, it felt like this is literally what they tried to do. Like, hey, we got to talk shit on Odell. So when he left, the team got good. It's like, well, maybe the team just learned the offense as

well because it was COVID. They weren't allowed in the building and they were just understanding. Maybe adding Odell Beckham to that offense would be cool too. I might be wrong. They might be right, but I feel like that bronze team with Clowney on that D-line now too, I think they're only going to go. Can I give you one more of that? Yeah, come on. Hey, that's what we're doing

here. Opening weekend, Sunday night football, Rams are minus seven at home versus the Bears. Everyone will say that the Rams got better in almost every single way this offseason. Number one defense potentially in the league last season going against the Bears offense that fucking stinks. We don't know if it's going to be Dalton or Fields.

Give me the seven, lay the seven with the Rams. Yeah, and this is Sunday Night Football, Matthew Stafford. Ooh. Coming out and saying, welcome to the show, by the way. Debuting the new stadium, kind of. This has been, with fans, this has been my entire career in Detroit. You haven't seen it.

Now I got an offensive guru calling plays and we got weapons. I would hammer the over in that one as well. And the Rams team over in that one. I assume that is going to be a fucking show for Matthew. Yeah. Oh yeah. I guess the Bears team too.

That's been beaten up on the line. And he knows the Bears team. Yeah. He knows his Bears team pretty well. Yeah. He knows the, well, I guess Chuck,

Chuck did retire. Yeah. Chuck Pagano retired. New D coordinator. Even more so. That's not good. Yeah. That's not good. No. Yeah. But they got guys. They Pagano retired. New D coordinator. Even more so. That's not good. That's not good. Yeah, but they got guys.

They got guys over there. Maggie's going to be desperate. Dalton gets lit up. Game one against the Rams. Easy to start Justin Fields week two. So you think maybe somebody's going to do the when Sunshine gets in to remember the Titans. Hey, Andy, go get slaughtered out there.

Level through, right? Take one for the team, Andy. He's getting beat like he stole something. How about that? Hell, grabs the guy's face mask. That D-Tackle, man. Vicious. What a moment.

Hey, that movie. That movie was my favorite. All time. Still plays. It holds out. Still plays. That movie is unbelievable. I mean, it's like complete bullshit, but it's an all-timer.

It's no Friday Night Lights. I do, and I have heard, we'll talk about your statement right there in a second, but I have heard with Remember the Titans, there was some creative liberties. Yeah. A few. I've been told. I've been told. That's just what I've been told.

That happens. That's good cinema. But I'm happy I got a chance to learn about what they had in there. It made me invested more, so I guess there is good of it. But, yeah, for a while there, I would have been able to tell you that's exactly what it is. Let me tell you. You know Gary Burtine? Hey, I thought it was a documentary.

Yeah. That was not. I heard. Thank you, Gary. Hey, thank you, Gary. Thank you, Gary. Sign Gary Ball right there. It's buried under those jerseys.

Who's the piece of shit? The real, real piece of shit in there? Oh, the tight end. Ray Butts. Ray Butts, yeah. What a bad matchup. I thought he was like a right guard, wasn't he? Nah, he's tight off the team, Ray.

And Gosling's dad. Louis Lastic made the call, made the odd one. Ray didn't hear it. Yeah. I do love the... How many plays did they have? Three. Three plays. I love that.

Like Novocaine. Give it time. That's what Navy said too. Whenever I was calling one of the Navy games, they were talking about their – Triple option. Yeah, they dropped the Novocaine line. Just wait.

It always works. It does. And by the way, I think they had to lead in the first half, and then they lost in the second half. I think. That was a really good game, I think. It was tight. Was it Memphis, maybe?

I think so. There was a couple games in Memphis, wasn't there? Yeah, we spent a lot of time in Memphis. Too much time. Memphis was a good time down there. They were great. You know, just mind your piece of goosey and get your throat slit. Ty had a conversation with an Australian man at a bar in Memphis. He was also the Navy.

The Australian man, allegedly. Allegedly. He told you that. This guy might have been a serial killer, to be honest. He was wide open. He told Ty five times he was might have been a serial killer, to be honest. He was wide open. He told Ty five times he was going to get his throat slashed. Yeah.

I was not with you guys whenever this happened, but when you were telling me the story, my first reaction was, so this guy told you right to your face you're going to get your throat slashed five times? Yeah.

With an accent, you said. While he was on a blind date, by the way, as well. Yeah. Well, he actually went on to kill that lady. When I'm picking up on this conversation. That is what we thought was maybe going on. Try the garlic knots.

He's drinking a beer and just, oh, oh, oh, one more. One more. One more. You got to finish it. You got to finish it. Yeah, gosh. Jesus. Horrible guy.

Memphis better get out there right now. But he was a scumbag. He. But he was a scumbag. He was. He was a scumbag. Funny guy. Wonder what he's up to these days. Out the conversation. So refresh me here.

Did he come into your guys' convo? I went to him. I think so. Zito, you went to him. He was talking to a lady he was sitting at the bar with for a good 20 minutes, and all of a sudden Zito chimed in with, Do I hear a hint of Australian? Yep.

That was it. That was it. Yep. And then he turned around and you guys. And then he just kind of fucking took the top off and just, Hey, try the garlic knots. They're unbelievable. And that was really the can of worms.

And they were complete dog shit. They were so bad. Hey, the guy was blacked out. Yeah, he was. Where did he tell you not to go? Oh, God. Near the stadium. Past Beale Street.

Yeah, near the stadium, and it was, yeah, don't go down Beale Street after 10 p.m. You need to get your throat slashed and your wallet stolen. Let's get to a break. And he wasn't kidding at all. He was doing it. Right, right. All right, let's get to a break.

Ian Rappaport will join us today in one hour. There's a lot of, obviously, schedule release talk. I want to ask him, you know, how are these leaks happening? How are these leaks happening? You know, wouldn't it have been cool just to have those schedules released in one month? That would have took over the internet, by the way. Oh, yeah. If they just drop out of nowhere.

I enjoy a surprise. I enjoy, like, I don't necessarily love leaks. Like, for instance, March Madness there. Remember, for a while, they had to figure out. And then for the drafts there, for a while, they had to figure out, like, hey, you can't be tipping picks or whatever. I think the schedule release would have been cool. That would have been a cool moment on the internet.

Yeah, yeah. Like a random album drop. Loving that. Yeah, it would have been a cool moment, I think. But we get to find out and speculate about things a day early, so maybe we should be thanking the leakers. But I'm just saying I think that would have been a cool moment. And I thought the NFL would have had it locked down.

I thought they would have. They do not. We'll talk to Rappaport about that. Also, Rich Eisen's report of what he heard from the draft behind the scenes. Did Ian tell him that or hear that information? Because he is part of NFL Network with Deshaun Watson and Aaron Rodgers. And everything else, your questions are also very much welcomed at 18334 McAfee. We'll see you on the other side of this break.

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Ladies and gentlemen, Super Bowl champion, all-time leading tackler for the Green Bay Packers, A.J. Hawk. Yeah! Pay up. A.J., great to see you today. Do you want to buy out of this bet early? I'll go $5 million.

You want to buy out now, pal? No, I mean, I would easily double down before I would buy out of this. $40 million. What? $40 million. I'm not going to because if I do double it, it turns into a sideshow.

It turns into something I don't want it to be. You truly think this is a real thing that can happen. If we keep bumping it up, it's going to be like, oh, this isn't real. Oh, you're right. $20 million for this isn't like a, that's not like, oh, this isn't real. You are going to, do you,

I sent you two houses last night. You got them. I sent you two houses last night. One's 8.8, one's 11.9. I know that's a little bit more, but I think if you go with cash, we'll be able to get that for $20 million easy. I appreciate that.

That's coming, AJ. I had 100 balls last night in the backyard. 100 balls last night. I backyard. 100 balls last night. I got 31 years to do this. You're out of your mind. I just want to let you know. It's not a good decision. It's not a good decision by you, and I'm looking out for you as a friend.

Okay. Hey, trust me. I wish you would have put some of those shots on Instagram or something. When do you think you'll feel good enough about your game to start posting about it? Well, listen, what you do in the dark will come to the light. You grind when there's no cameras. 31 years later. Okay, exactly.

What are you bringing Tiger Woods into this for? That guy's rehabbing right now? I don't know if you know this. I don't know why you're trying to stir him into this stupidity for me. What's this all about? You think Tiger Woods is going to get offended by me saying this? Maybe. I figured guys like him that spend their whole life, for me,

it's like three years and up playing golf every single day, maybe they get a little bit offended by some ex-pro football player that thinks he can jump into their game. Okay, so you did try to stir shit with me and Tiger fucking Woods last night. That's exactly what this was? Well, I would assume hopefully Tiger has, we know he has some time on his hands. Maybe he's scrolling through

his Twitter page and maybe he sees this buffoon talk about being able to join the Champions Tour and he wants to respond. Could you imagine, because you are A.J. Hawk and he does see this and he cuts a promo, imagine him coming off of his injury. What if he cuts a promo

about, I'll play left-handed for the rest of my life and you won't win? What if you somehow, because you are A.J. Hawk, spin this in that way? And then I would like him to put maybe $20 million into it as well. And then we'll make a sideshow out of this thing, you know what I mean? And $40 million

would be cool. But A.J., we have to get right to it. It's a big day, dude. Hey. Huge. You texted me about it. You knew what we wanted to hear from you. AJ Hawk, your thoughts on the schedule release leaks that have happened thus far. A couple big games. Tampa Bay Buccaneers playing host to the Dallas Cowboys September 9th. Buccaneers favored by six.

I'm hammering them with every single hammer I can find. Are you going to ride with the Cowboys opening night? And what are your thoughts on some of these other games, AJ? Are you excited that we're getting a chance to hear who's going to London when? What are the Thanksgiving games? How about Christmas? Colts are playing the Cardinals that has been released, and also the Browns

and the Packers. Aaron Rogers is on the Green Bay Packers. Imagine the star studded spectacle that is Jesus Christ's birthday. I mean, AJ, are you not pumped up about this? This is a big day. Yeah.

So I watched a little bit of the show earlier, and you guys talking about the different travel schedules of what Tom Brady's going to have to do. I know this game is in October. Oh, what about this? Back-to-back tough games. And I just almost wanted to fake an illness maybe because I have a hard time trying to find ways to make schedule.

I think that the week one game is the one I do care about. That Thursday night, Cowboys-Bucks, I got to play in that game. We played the Saints after the lockout, and there was a bunch of buildup. It was awesome. There was concerts out on the street before the game. Like, that's a fun game to be a part of i'm excited to watch that game because it starts the whole season but i think the cowboys might look pretty good there too okay so you play you've obviously played won a super bowl you that first week that first game it does feel like that because

the media hype is what for almost two months maybe for that point super bowl is only two weeks of build but it's all eyes it's a whole world but in the football world that thursday thursday night games in general by the way but that thursday night game all eyes are there i mean here we go you got the super bowl champs and then you got the team that aj hawk said was going to represent the the nfc in the super bowl this past year big mike mccarthy his second year, but only his first real year with Dak Prescott back. How are they going to look? I'd assume not good opening night. That's just what I think. But 17

games is a long time. I'm not saying Dak and Mike and that team won't figure it out because they even won some games last year. I assume they will, but it feels like this is Buccaneers buzzsaw Thursday night. Tom Brady's going to love this, I think. I mean, the game's going to be awesome.

There's going to be a ton of hype. We're going to talk about it before. We're going to react to it after. And in the grand scheme of things, it's not going to mean anything for the grand total of the season. Yeah, it could come down. You could point back to it. But no matter what happens, good or bad for either team, like, hey,

this isn't who you are right now tonight. Yeah, I mean, Bill Belichick has been the most open about that whole thing. You know, like, first couple weeks, he's, I mean, they win, they lose. I mean, I guess every reaction from him is the exact same, but. You can't get too excited. That's what I'm trying to say. Like, if you do look amazing and blow somebody out, Belichick's one of those guys. Yeah, I don't think he ever lets anybody get too excited about their success, but yet you can't

put too much into it either way, I think. Football season, Doug, begins until after Thanksgiving. That's right. That's when you're trying to, every coach, I assume, says, we just got to get better every day. We can't be playing our best football now, we got to be playing our best football in December, like that's

how everybody feels, but you can't give it away early, though. You can't give yourself no chance early in the season. But, man, those teams that get hot late, those are the most dangerous ones, it seems like, in the playoffs. And, by the way, Tampa was that team. Tampa got hot. They had that bye week.

What was it, week 11, I think, last year maybe? I think it was week 11. I think so, yeah. I might be wrong. They had a bye week or whatever, week 11, maybe week 12. Week 11 might have been when the Dolphins had their bye week. Might have even been week 13. It might have been later.

Yeah, it was late. It felt late. They had a late bye week. I think that's when Tom and B.A. and everybody sat down and said, hey, what do we need to do? They changed the offense. They started doing different things, more play action, more run, more dump, more.

It felt like more Tom Brady almost after that. And then they got fucking hot. Now, the Heineken machine, Taylor Heineken, he gave him a run there in the first week of playoffs or whatever after Chase Young told Tom Brady he was coming. But, I mean, that team, they're only starting. And they brought everybody back somehow. I just, what if they start too hot?

What if they peak too early? Is that possible? What is that? That is possible. Absolutely. Hey, by the way, what we just did there with you, AJ,

we got you excited about schedule release. Yeah! Yeah, AJ! Yeah, AJ! See that? So, what else, what else is going to be,

you know, released out before the actual release party at what, 8 p.m. tonight? Yeah, I think all of them are going to get, Dove Kleiman is taking a picture of 8 p.m. tonight? Yeah, I think all of them are going to get it.

Dove Kleiman is taking a picture of confidential photos. Oh, yes. And just put them out. Yeah, they're just. Now, Dove Kleiman, people have heard him in his account on this show. Big time news gatherer. Very good news gatherer. Top of the line. Find insiders.

I don't know. Maybe he has connections or whatever. He turned into a pundit, you know, whenever Aaron's situation was happening, that whatever was happening. And he started, you know, I had to unfollow him. Oh, yeah. It was sad to see, really. It was.

It's like, yo, Doug, I did not know you. What was he saying? I didn't see it. I thought we were inside. He just kept burying Rodgers, blaming him for everything. It was really upsetting, to be honest. It was upsetting, to be honest. It was in my timeline, because I enjoyed...

I believe the algorithm of Twitter knows that I do. I was like, okay, I will look at Dove's thing. So I think they were shoveling his tweets in. Then I started seeing these. I'm like, hey, Dove. Hey, listen, pal. All right, I'm a big fan. I love what you're doing,

but what the fuck is this? You're supposed to be... The guy just knows everything about what's going on. That's what we're doing here. And then all of a sudden, you're a pundit. You errands this, errands that. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Okay, I'm going to get it. But today, need Dove because he has all the schedules.

He's got it. So what I'm saying here is, you know, did unfollow Dove personally because I didn't like the negativity in the feed. Like, hey, that's not what I enjoy in my feed. Everybody knows my timeline is everything here. This is what I like to do. But he's releasing every single goddamn game. AJ, I'd assume they're all going to be out very soon.

I guess. I mean, that's surprising that they're – I would imagine the NFL would be very, very secretive just because there's big money tonight. And everybody has a show, right? Yeah, there's big productions. You don't want to do a show, a release party show tonight? That'd be cool. Okay to you want to do a show a release party show tonight that'd be cool okay you want to go five six hours tonight let's do it sounds good okay hey draft spectacular yeah you know what if this is the nfl trying to find out who the rats are just like kim and kanye did yeah all right so we'll give out

fake schedules to people each one of them will have one little minor difference. We'll remember who got which one, and whichever one gets leaked, guess what? Rat! See ya! See ya! That would be awesome if they really did put out fake schedules. I guess that's what Kimye did. Yeah, so whenever their baby was about to be...

Worked out for them. Yeah. Yeah, it did. For a little bit. Yeah. Oh, yeah, that's right. They have three kids, though, I think, right? Uh-huh. North, south, and west. No a little bit. Yeah. Oh, yeah, that's right. They have three kids, though, I think, right? Uh-huh.

North, south, and west. No, St. And Chicago. Hey, I think. But anyways. What if Bill. Hey, what if. I heard Bill Gates is trying to chat up Kim.

All right. Let's see. No. What's your obsession with Gates? Jason Light. Okay. Jason Light. It was Lizzo.

Okay. Jason Light. That was his first relationship. Post-divorce. Is that real? Did you just break news? None of it's real. No. Oh. Jason Light. That was his first relationship. Post-divorce. Is that real? Did you just break news? None of it's real. No.

Oh. Rumors. There's a rumor. In my head, Bill Gates was walking with Lizzo. Way to a screenshot. At the Lakers game. Oh, yeah. Oh.

Cheeks out. Yeah. Gates has them too. Ashless chaps for Gates. Oh, man. All right. Is that right? Is that what's going on billy bunching no way what if bill gates though does that'd be awesome good luck out there bill i mean there's a lot of terrible stuff coming out allegedly about you right now but you know it's gonna be it's gonna be rough waters i think think, for a little bit. Good luck, Bill. Good luck, too.

Good luck out there. I don't think he cares. Bezos just bought, what, a 450-foot yacht that has another yacht aside of it. Half a billion dollars. Yeah, $550 million, I believe. Another yacht is like its protection yacht. So when they need to run to the store, they get on the other yacht

that has a jet ski on it that goes off the other side. So what is it? It's an island? He has an island out there? A traveling island. Yeah. That's pretty cool, man.

Good for him. Remember, he was sitting in that shitty-ass office with that Amazon and graffiti behind him. Way to go. My baby Jeff. Big brain.

I mean, he ended a lot of businesses all by himself. I mean, chopped down at the knees. Hey, I'm going to make what you do much more convenient

for everybody and you are going to be fucked. Yep. Thanks for playing though. It was fun. Oh, groceries.

You didn't think we were going to get, yeah, we got drivers. Yeah, we got that too. We got groceries too. They'll go in. Yeah, they'll get some skim milk. Yep. Thanks for playing though It was fun Oh groceries You didn't think We were going to get Yeah yeah yeah We got drivers Yeah we got that too We got groceries too They'll go in

Yeah they'll get some skim milk We got it No big deal That's what he did And then he just left right Now he's just chilling And buying lots and stuff Sold like 2.5 billion dollars

For the stock And he was like Hey thanks for having me By the way that's nothing to him right Nothing Dropping the ocean That's crazy Let's move along

Jason Light said That Tom Brady can play Until he's 50 if he wants He said you know what To him, right? Nothing. Dropping the ocean. That's crazy. Let's move along. Jason Light said that Tom Brady can play until he's 50 if he wants. He said, you know what? Whatever Tom wants. Rich asked him if they had talked about future whenever they extended the contract. He says that's a private conversation. Not going to talk about it, Rich, all right? Can't do it.

Which I kind of respect a lot. But then he went on to say if Tom wants to play until he's 50, he can be a Buccaneer for however long he wants. Jason Light says, okay, I'll have a job at least for the next seven years here if you're here that's how i see this thing play for however long the hell you want pal how do you feel about this and do you not think that this and this is we went on an entire speculative rant earlier about how aaron and russ this is kind of like albert breer brought this back to the forefront this week. I think he confirmed our suspicions that the Tom Brady-Tampa Bay Buccaneers situation is a situation that a lot of other quarterbacks have looked at and gone.

They're winning. Okay, they're winning. The quarterback is just being helped out immensely from the entire organization. How come we can't do that? How come Peyton went to Denver to get him the keys to the organization? How come we can't do that how come payton went to denver the game the keys the organization how come we can't do that it feels like jason light is like the most supportive general manager to a quarterback maybe in the history of the nfl at this point is that going to change things you think i think it has to i think it absolutely has to right going forward

don't the quarterbacks have all the power i i think quarterbacks absolutely have all the power because if you don't have a guy, you're not going to win. But there's only going to be – is there ever going to be another Tom Brady-type character come through the NFL? Probably. I mean, we're seeing young superstars come out every single year in the draft. So I think players are taking more power.

But don't you think – you said it, right, Pat, that Russ and Aaron have to see this and be like, okay, here we go. I thought you were just – Look what's happening. Yeah, I was trying to find a picture of Aaron to remind you. Like, yeah, Aaron has to be – and by the way, once again, I have not talked to Aaron. But Aaron – and I assume this is with Russ as well, how that whole thing started,

if any of it's true, by the way. We don't know at this point what's true and what isn't true, but let's assume there's maybe something. You see that. You've got to be pissed. Yeah. You've got to be absolutely pissed. And here's another thing I heard, by the way,

sources have told me. Teams reaching out to players of teams, asking them what we need to do to get back in the building or whatever. And players and teams are kind of working it out because they assume that the NFLPA and the NFL won't be able to figure out something because that's like a much larger conversation

that has to happen. But from my sources, I've been told that teams have been trying to figure it out with the players. Like a much larger conversation has to happen but from my sources i've been told that teams have been trying to figure it out with the players like what do we need to do to get you back in here if some other team won't do that we will do it so let's just get you back in here and let's do this thing so i think we're going to see some individual team like changes in the nfl schedule the entire yearly schedule which is fascinating well i think i saw something about that online where teams are talking to players and whatever. They're trying to figure out, aren't they almost negotiating,

like we're going to have a walk-through pace to some of our OTAs? I saw something like that. Yeah, like, hey, we ain't going full speed, all right? You know, we come to these things, but when we show up, you guys make us fly around, okay? You're making us run into each other. We got to hit each other. We got these little, what is skeleton, I think is what it's called.

I don't remember. Shoulder shocks, whatever. Yeah, like the little shock. It's like a, I think you see it in 7 on 7 sometimes, guys. The ones that you wear under your pads as well? Yeah, yes. Yeah, those ones. You just wear those or whatever.

But since there is a little bit of pad, I mean, you guys can thud each other. You can kind of get there, right? You can get there. You got to fit up you can kind of you can kind of get there right you can get the you gotta fit up you gotta fit up is what they'll tell you you can fit up you can feel you can set an edge too you can go ahead and dip right there a little bit and then all of a sudden you got guys who are trying to make a team and make a living that aren't maybe the starters and they're filling in for maybe a backup who's going against the starters and you got guys that are like in their eighth year or whatever they're in a walkthrough and you got a guy who's trying to earn a living for the first time in his life and it's like all right come on man can we what are we doing here this guy's

diving on my knees right now can we can we slow this thing down it is a walkthrough it's like yeah but you've also there's kind of a lot of you know implied things i think that happen in those walkthroughs that uh that a lot of people don't fully understand either, AJ. Am I wrong in thinking that or no? No, there's not unwritten rules, but there's definitely you've got to know the tempo, the pace, but you also at the same time, if you're a vet and you see a young guy and he is kind of

maybe kind of out of control, but he's going so hard, if he's like that all the time, you may be like, hey man, you've got to calm down, but you also respect it too. You'd much rather a guy be that way than just super nonchalant and not care and not know what he's doing. The Ron Landry's first day was awesome. I mean, it wasn't awesome for, I assume, some of the wide receivers or whatever.

Were you wearing pads? No pads. Just jerseys. Not even skeleton. Just jerseys, shorts. Also, I got a text just now. John Coon. Those are spiders. Spiders, spiders. got a text just now. John Coon. Those are spiders. Spiders. Spiders. Thank you, Coon.

John Coon. Coon! Got any new info, AJ? Hey, Coon broke info last week. Ask him if he has anything he wants to say. I want to call in. We should have him call in. I bet he does have info. Okay, we got Rap Report at 125. Have him call. Hey, Coon!

Coon! Hey, if you're watching, Okay, we got Rap Report at 125. Have him call. Hey, hey, Coon! Coon! Hey, if you're watching, man, we'd love to just have a little FaceTime with you in like 30, 45 minutes if that's possible. I'd love to chat with you.

I heard you're a newsbreaker. We used to have one of those. He fucking quit doing his job. I mean, that's, he'll go do it on other shows, which is no fun. Coon! Unbelievable.

Coon! What if Coon comes on? That'd be awesome. Yeah, great. Leron Landry, though. Hey, full speed, whoa. Hey, full speed, whoa. Hey, full speed, whoa. Everything.

If it was a run, he was fitting through. If he had the A gap or whatever, or B gap, whatever it was, he was sprinting all the way through it. Everybody else is walking through. If it was a walkthrough the day before the game, if it was a walkthrough in mandatory OTAs, the first day he showed up, okay, after we signed him to a deal, he shows up. He's like, it looked like 255, maybe 260. I don't know.

I don't know what it was, but it was one of the most impressive bodies I've ever seen in my entire life. He walks through. Everybody's like, God damn. Holy shit. We got a guy. We got a guy. We got a guy. We got a guy. We got a guy. He was incredibly hilarious, insightful.

I think he had very – he was a good guy. I don't know if that gets talked about enough. In our locker room, he was absolutely loved. Now, for whatever reason, on the field, he didn't start as much as maybe he should have or whatever. And he came in for Antoine Bethea, who was loved by the community and the locker room. But he was a cool dude. LeBron was a super cool guy.

He would play special teams. He'd be on the look team for special teams. And it was full speed every fucking time. And the first day of practice, ball down the left side, out, up in the air, bang. We're talking full collision, down, both bodies hit the floor, stand up, excitement for breaking the plate, excitement flex, walk off, then almost a full-on brawl. Okay, almost happens.

A full-on brawl almost happens. And then a conversation is had, you know, in the team huddle at the end of OTAs where it was like, listen, this guy goes full speed. We love it about you. That's why you're going to be great. Okay, that's why we wanted you here. But listen, we got to figure out when and who we can hit, who we can't hit. There's things like that. But it was, those guys go so hard. Who else did it? You said somebody, offensive lineman used to do it to you. Who would just kill you? Oh, Zeitler in Cincinnati, I think I talked about. They were in a screenplay first

OTA ever. Just headbutbutted me into another century, and I had to stand up and still be all right. And by the way, we're going to run that again. We're going to run a lot of that in OTAs, by the way. Running again. Running it back. Running it back because they're trying to still figure out plays and everything then too.

So that happens, and let's go back. Let's actually go back to play four on the sheet. They go back. It's like, whoa, that's three plays ago. That is. We are. We are going to be here a little bit. So I would assume, guys, now this is me just watching on the sideline,

by the way. So I did feel bad for you guys when it was going on out there. But I assume whenever it's like a, hey, we've got to replay that because the offense necessarily didn't succeed, and you potentially did just get head-butted, and they're like, got to do that again you're like yeah okay i'm gonna tap out i need somebody to come in is that what happens or do you just have to do that again no i mean you're never able to tap out especially in a practice there's no chance no if if you get have to redo it like that a lot of times yeah defensive players will take it out on the offensive players and that

repeated play and then there's a fight so what we're saying is, even if it's walkthroughs, if there is any chance of a competitive edge or maybe somebody could earn a job because of it or something like it, because speed kills matchups. That's everything. So even in walkthroughs, if you're going, you could potentially kind of separate yourself on film. That just leads to other it just

always happens it always seems that now granted teams are able to do it and do it professionally but learning how to practice is just as big of a thing for young players as is learning the offense as well the bodies on the ground thing that first regime i was with you know with peyton and uh polian and caldwell was there not d Dungy. Man, somebody on the ground, it was almost like, don't do what you just did right there. You could tear an ACL and you do not

matter as much as Dwight Freeney does. Practicing was almost a perfected craft. There was never balls on the ground. It felt like just everything was awesome you know and then he watched that the next regime it was a younger team watching the walkthroughs become what the i got a chance to see from like the peyton squad and what even on

the defensive side the communication and everything like that kind of watching that whole thing grow it was the how people practice thing was very interesting to kind of see it a lot of guys lost jobs because they couldn't practice if you're reckless yeah absolutely if it happens over and over again like everyone is going to fall down at some point things happen but if you continue to be that guy good luck good luck hanging around get him though who's this guy you're good at football pal but we can't you're not as good as this guy you're gonna kill him every day see you later there was a there was a video going around of um uh cj deuce uh from the houston texans oh charles james charles james yeah he's hilarious by the way he was on the colts i got chance to meet him on the colts he was hilarious he was giving a speech during a training camp

practice to a rookie he was like hey we got to communicate because if we don't communicate they're gonna get our asses out of here okay we're going to get fired we need to communicate and the rookie was like calm down or whatever and he was like no no no hey if this is not calm down this is we will get fired if this is not that's the the difference you know and it's i think that is why it has to all be negotiated i think it all has to be negotiated because there are so many jobs at stake like there has to be written rules on this can happen, this can't happen. Because if it's just implied, there's

always going to be people that are going to take advantage of it. Joining us now is maybe a man who can give us a little bit of information on where this conversation is. Also can tell us about how these schedules have been leaked and was it him that was doing all the leaking?

Ladies and gentlemen, insider for the NFL Network and NFL.com, Ian Arapapo. What's going on, dude? What's up, guys? How you doing, man? Hey, just hanging out. How are you? Are you on TV today? I assume big day on TV with all these leaks.

Are you guys acknowledging the leaks on NFL Network or no? We are not acknowledging them uh i am certainly not acknowledging them and i do not stand for schedule leaking other leaking is totally fine especially when it involves me breaking a story that is like i'm all in on that kind of leak yeah schedule leaking not i'm not in on at all so i will ignore all the schedule leaks unless of course Fox and friends or whoever else decides to announce it this morning. That's also fine.

But I will ignore all of it until 8 PM tonight or whenever our show is. And then we will have three hours talking about the schedule, which many people watch. Okay. So let's AJ obviously, and I had heated conversations about the schedule leaks. I mean, we are pumped.

I mean, that opening matchup, Tampa Bay allegedly, obviously you can't talk about this, Christmas, allegedly Colts, Cardinals, Browns, Packers. Oh my God. I mean, there's a lot of games potentially. Is there any chance that all these

leaks were a master plan by the NFL, just like Kim and Kanye did with false names that they're trying to figure out who the rats are? Or do you think there is a chance that these could get leaked and these could did with false names that they're trying to figure out who the rats are? Or do you think there is a chance that these could get leaked and these could be the actual schedules that we're seeing all over the internet? You know what? That's a great question. I'm going to save some of the leaks and compare when you get the actual schedule later. I mean, I'm always surprised when big news holds. Like when I have something I've been working on for like a couple of weeks and then I break it clean with no one else knowing about it. I'm always like, wow, I can't believe

that didn't leak. Um, so people, people talk, um, I assume most of it is legit, but I haven't, cause it would be weird just to put out a completely fake thing. Um, these are real, but yeah, I mean, I don't, I don't know't know Yeah you can't talk about them obviously But the ones that we are seeing are real We're pumped up about it Go ahead AJ Ian so we see how Everything NFL does

Was that a text It was a text It was actually a call and then a text Oh so it's a board game Call me back See what it is hold on This could be interesting. Yeah, yeah.

It's nothing big. Come on. Response, nothing. Terrible response. Oh, you stink. Come on, dude. You stink. Go ahead, AJ.

Bad source. So we see we're talking about the schedule release, which is crazy to think of how much attention gets paid to it. And I know the NFL continues to grow. Is the NFL always going to continue to grow? Is there a time in the future where the NFL maybe isn't king, isn't this giant? No way. I don't see how.

And I feel like with gambling being welcomed into the world, I feel like it's only getting bigger. And it's been interesting. I'm not a big gambling guy. Obviously, I don't gamble, and I'm also not allowed to gamble. But it is unbelievable. The draft, so much of the news that broke in the draft was relate. People immediately took it, and the odds have shifted.

And it was like that drove so much of the discussion. And it's sort of like fantasy football 10 years ago. It brings in so many other people who weren't interested originally. So I think it's only going to get bigger. I don't know when the actual schedule will get bigger to 18 games. I think we're far off on that. But everything else, you don't believe that. No, I don't because they're going to see how much money this makes,

especially with that showcase game. And then they added games to the wild card weekend. They're going to see how much money this is. They'll somehow end up negotiating with the NFL PA, maybe one more bye week in there. Then the thing will be instead of 110 billion, it'll be like 160 billion all of a sudden overnight. And it's like, of course, that's what the NFL does. And that's what that's literally what the NFL does. Don't you think? Just this geniuses. Yeahes. Yeah, they are. You know, like that TV deal was so monstrous.

Like, you know, obviously great job, and hopefully it trickles down to some of us plain folk. But, yeah, certainly as big as you can imagine. Okay, so let's talk about Rich Eisen. He, on his show, I believe on Monday or Tuesday, I'm not exactly sure which day he talked about how there's no noise being made right now in Green Bay with Aaron Rodgers after that entire thing happened with the and I assume in the insider's world you guys didn't follow along with that whole story but now how it's all happened or whatever but no news in Green Bay with Aaron

and then also in Houston with Deshaun and said, he came out and said that he had heard potentially that Deshaun was maybe in the middle of settling the case or whatever. Then today somebody's come out and said that is not true. And then in that same conversation, Rich talked about how there's like three teams interested in Deshaun. What is the Deshaun Watson situation? Now, the off the field, you, I would assume, the NFL, us, we feel the exact same way. If what is being alleged happened, get them out of the league. Okay? If what's being alleged happened.

Now, whatever happens, I have no idea what's going to happen. But let's say that that somehow comes to an end. I have no idea how, but let's say it does. There's teams that still would make a move for Deshaun Watson in your eyes. And how would that work out, you think? Yeah, there are definitely still teams interested. And, you know, it would be tricky and it would be difficult, and I don't know exactly how and when it would play out,

but I've talked to a couple different teams who have basically said, like, we could potentially do it, but let's see how this plays out. Philly? It's still a – Philly right now, I'm not going to say that they're involved because they have a starting quarterback, but here's what I will say. If Philly ever wanted to get involved, they have probably more – they're in the same situation for next draft as the Dolphins were in this past draft which is two first-rounders and maybe a third we'll see what happens with with Carson so like if Philly ever wanted to they

really would be like primed because they have all the draft picks because if you're Houston if you're gonna trade to Sean Watson you have to get enough to get the next to Sean Watson Philly Philly has that the Dolphins also have that um you know there's and then you know here's the other thing like is he going to get suspended like you know we're looking at the schedule and you look at like Houston's first game like we I don't know if Deshaun Watson's going to be out there I think it's possible also possible he's suspended also possible he's on another team. That's the most questions, but to answer

your original question, I haven't heard any noise on the settlement, but you're not going to. It's just going to happen. It will be just announced, and then we'll say, oh, wow, he settled. Then we'll see who's serious and who's not. Right before Diggs has a big question

for you. The schedule makers, you know more about this than I do. Is that a team of people? Who's in there? I assume that's an entire elaborate process because they have to try to predict. They have to predict who's probably going to be good, potential matchups, big time. Thanksgiving kind of stinks.

Thanksgiving kind of stinks. Oh, I haven't heard any games that are going to be on Thanksgiving. Okay, you're right, you're right. Sorry, Ian, I do apologize for that. From what I've heard, but we have, has been alleged to, like, that's a pretty massive job. They have to account for Deshaun potentially not being with Houston. Aaron maybe not being with Green Bay.

Like, is that what they have to do? And who do they get their information from to figure that out? I assume that it is a pretty high-end conversation. That is a great point. I'm sure no one thinks or cares about the schedule

makers because the schedule pops up and we have a big show about it. But that is a massive thing because for them, let's say they put the Packers on primetime five times. I don't know. I haven't seen any schedules, but let's just say that's possible. them, let's say they put the Packers on primetime five times. I don't know. Haven't seen any schedules, but let's just say that's possible.

Well, who's the quarterback or through the Texans? Like that could go six different ways. How much stock do you put into Deshaun Watson being there? Like, and that's, and it's never really that much of an issue because usually we know almost everything by now.

Like there's never, there's never any like who's the starting quarterback going to be in may right unless there's like a camp battle this year is just weird um so yeah i mean there's it's like a group of guys who are geniuses who have a humongous computer which i assume takes up like a wall like one of those old school computers just like like a massive, like a Bitcoin computer. Are Bitcoin computers big? Oh, you don't even know, dude.

What are you talking about? Welcome to 2021, dude. Jeez, Diggs, what do you have? Kind of going off of that, there was a team that came out the first game of the year this year, and now they're away for the seventh year in a row to start the season.

So do the schedule makers hate certain teams? Which team is that? Steelers. Steelers are playing away for the seventh year in a row to start the season. No, but let's also talk about allegedly, by the way. Allegedly. We've got to do that. Okay, that has been announced.

But also, let's go into that a little bit deeper. Okay, that has been announced. But also, let's go into that a little bit deeper. Tom Brady allegedly will have to fly from Tampa to L.A. for a primetime game in week three, okay? Then back to Tampa, probably get 6.30, 7 a.m. probably. 6.30, 7 a.m. if I had to guess. He's eating avocado ice cream so he can prepare for that,

and he believes in pliability and everything. But then they're going to go back to Foxborough. That next week it's like, wait a – while Bill's got two home games. Sounds like this whole deflate gate thing is dying hard out there. It must be nice. Isn't that interesting? He's trying to deflate the ball. I mean, you know what I think about? I think about how the schedule makers will call each team individually

and be like, here's your schedule. Now, I don't know if they follow on Twitter. Maybe some of it's linked. Maybe they already know. But they basically will go through the schedule with the coaches. And I wish I could hear, like, the grumbling from some of the coaches when that happens. Like, oh, you know, Tomlin will just get annoyed at having to be on the road for the seventh year in a row to start the season. Or, like, Brady's, you know when brady finds a schedule he's looking

at he's like come on you know annie bows or whatever like what are you doing to me yeah i i wish i could hear some of those grumbling conversations you're supposed to be you though you're that's your you're supposed to be in those calls you're ian rappaport come on that's all annie bow is doing you would think if i was smart enough to do the schedule uh i feel like that would be a lot of fun and then I would make sure none of it leaked. Okay. And AJ has a question for you immediately after this. I apologize, AJ.

The Aaron Rodgers-Green Bay Packers situation, it has been quiet over there. Have you heard anything? We read there was an article written on May 6th that was cited in an athletic article later that said that they offered him, now, by the way, May 6th, I think, was a much different time than maybe we are in now, especially after how everything has unfolded publicly about the behind the scenes.

But the Packers allegedly made Aaron the biggest contract offer in NFL history, which would have been bigger than Patrick Mahomes, allegedly. They offered him a long-time extension. Is any of that true? Do we know of any of that happening? Is that happening currently? What do you know about what's going on with Aaron and the backers?

Because we legitimately know nothing. You would think that guy over there, Ian, would know, but he does not because we do not want to put ourselves in one of those situations. But what are you hearing over there in Green Bay? So you don't want to have your inside source ask the guy the real stuff. We do, yeah. We've been pressuring him, but he has not done it. Right.

It's honestly kind of messed up, but this is why you have sources. You could be like, come on, man. This is your time. Thank you, ref. Thank you. I think AJ views him as a friend, not a source. Ian is our source. Ian's the source.

Here's what I would say, and all due respect to AJ, too bad. Oh! Eaton, don't eat! Sick shack! Through the legs! Holy shit! Here's what I would say about life.

Oh, shut up. I do believe the Packers have made him a significant offer. I don't know if it would have made him the highest paid quarterback. And the problem is the way the Packers structure deals, it's hard to say. Like, yes, theoretically, they could offer him $70 million a year, right? But if only the first year is guaranteed, which is how the Packers structure him, if most of it's in the signing bonus and then everything else is pay as you go,

I don't know if that's what Rodgers wants. To me, it's not about the overall yearly average, which is what we sort of talk so much about in contract. It's about, from what I understand, security and him knowing that he is the Packers starter going forward, guaranteed contractually. So I haven't ruled anything out. I've seen some of the stuff, and I think A.J. Believe was quoted, and then James Jones saying that it's potentially fixable, I think, if I'm correct.

I would agree because there are different ways to make this happen. Ian, who do you think is the point guy there in Green Bay? Who is talking to Aaron's agent? I know there's three guys up top at the executive position i know mark murphy's the president who do you think is is doing most of the work yeah i mean i think that's a great question because when like when they when they all flew out there i believe that they all were out there so that would be gudikens mark Russ Ball. One trip? I'm not sure it was one trip. It could have been multiple trips. Oh, there were three trips.

But, you know, it isn't, I mean, AJ, as you know, it is an odd organization because there's no one owner who would say, look, get this done. Like, it doesn't work like that with the Packers. They're just a different organization. There's no owner. They're kind of fucked because of that, actually. Yep.

I think they've got no seat at the table either whenever rules are being made and decisions and everything like that. It's tough. It's just a – yeah, I mean, it's a different place. But, you know, again, there are ways around this. There are ways to make it happen. I think it certainly seems like Rodgers is frustrated at Gutekunst the most, probably because he drafted Jordan Love,

and obviously that's something that doesn't exactly sit well still with Aaron Rodgers a year later. I just don't know that it's anything that could never be fixed. We've seen this before where, let's say a player requests a trade, or Russell Wilson's a great example. A player's all out. This team is terrible. I hate them them and then the contract gets done you're like yeah we worked it out or you just yeah i mean we've seen harsher situations get worked out i'll say that okay connor

rapture we talked about this in the first hour but when teams are getting selected to play in london do the schedule makers account for how much revenue the stadiums make per game or no? You mean as it relates to the specific team? Like could a specific team? I don't think so because I believe the games get sold out anyway. There's a lot of interest over there. Now, obviously, the Jaguars always get one because of their interest in London. But I don't think it's the individual teams.

I think it's how much revenue would they bring. I think it's more like everyone kind of gets a turn. No, but we're talking about people losing a home game, right? Because Jacksonville, that pool would lose. Because their stadium now, granted, I assume, with Urban, with Trevor. To Bell, of course. To Bo. We assume that there's going to be more tickets sold for that team

because there has to be general interest, I would assume, has spiked down there. But for a while, they had the tarps and everything like that. So sending them to London, I don't think was losing. You know what I mean? Does that go into it at all, you think? Is there any conversation around that for which home game is whose? I don't know firmly the answer to that.

I just know that everyone sort of gets a turn. So like everyone has to lose a home game at some point in the next CBA or the next, I should say the next schedule next year, 2022. I believe there's going to be like a more of a set rotation as far as just who goes over there so i don't think that gets taken into account but i do know the jaguars to basically work this into their program where every year except for last year um you know every year they basically uh the jaguars go over there all right we got to get out of here we appreciate you so much you're the best ladies and gentlemen host of a great show that is currently on hiatus. Rapsheet and Friends. Mr. Rapsheet himself. Is it dead?

R.I.P. Not dead. I'm just, you know, we'll see. Holy shit. Is it on life support right now? Do we need to clear the whole thing? See, I'm not gonna, I was gonna make a joke, but I'm not going to.

So, it is make a joke, but I'm not going to. So it is on life support. But again, similar to the Aaron Rodgers situation, I haven't ruled out anything, and I've seen podcasts come back from worse. Hell yeah. You're going to wrap it up. Yeah! Thank you. AJ, listen.

You have proved to be an incredible college football, high school college football player, college football player, NFL football player, medium mogul. I mean, medium. But now with the booking of our next guest, this is the first time this lightning rod electric human has ever been on this show, AJ. Did you know that? This is his first time coming on the show.

No, I assumed he'd actually been on the show before. Me too. Want to let you know? Had been conversation in the locker numerous times. Need to get the crew on the show. And now through your booking, with you texting him, asking him, being a Super Bowl champion alongside him, ladies and gentlemen, joining us now,

former legend in Green Bay, I'd assume still legend in Green Bay, and insider to the Aaron Rodgers News Saga, ladies and gentlemen, John Cook. How are you, pal? Look at AJ. Look at AJ pulling guests now. He's just an all-around stud on this show. Yeah, he is. He is.

And by the way, he was just stumbling around the Masters all by himself, too. I mean, texting John Coon, getting him on the show, stumbling drunk around Augusta all by himself. AJ is peak performance right now. What was he like as a teammate? I assume your locker room, now that we've known Aaron a little bit, AJ, I know him a little bit more, you're in there. Was that in Sitton?

Oh, yeah. We learned about Sitton. And TJ Lang, I think, was there as well. That locker room, you guys had to have one of the closest, I'd assume the locker room got along very well there in Green Bay and had to be one of the most ridiculous locker rooms as well that locker room you guys had to have one of the closest i'd assume the locker room got along very well there in green bay and had to be one of the most ridiculous locker rooms as well oh yeah i mean we had a tremendous time and let me tell you what you guys get out of aj here it's such a watered down version of aj hulk in the locker room this guy and this is the reason why i had to send him the uh the spider text because I couldn't believe he didn't know about the spider shells.

Because they're terrible. They're useless. That's why. Because this guy, he was 100% every time, full go, didn't matter what was on the practice field, throwing his big head into you, punching you, scratching you. He did everything. This guy was an absolute lunatic on the field.

So I couldn't believe he didn't know the spider shells. So you guys had a lot of run-ins. I assume, fullback, middle linebacker, and A.J. doesn't know how to practice. And all of a sudden, Coon's got to handle that thing. Iron sharpens iron, though, right? I mean, that's how you got to look at it? Well, I told A.J. all the time, man, brother-in-law, man, brother-in-law, we've been at this for a long time.

Slow down a little bit. A.J., you couldn't turn that motor down on him, though. He was a nut. Okay, Coon, let's get right to it. You broke news last week when you said there's absolutely a chance you think this thing gets done. Brett Favre said, hey, I texted him. He told me he'll fucking get back with me later. You said, you came out and said, hey, I've been talking to him.

Do you have any update that you're willing to share? Because it feels like right now, maybe nobody really has a clue what's going on behind the scenes, except for maybe a few people. What are your thoughts on the whole process and how that whole thing is going to turn out over there? Well, I think just generally speaking, nobody really knows. Nobody really knows except for Aaron and the organization as to where they actually stand in this timeline. I know for me personally, I know just enough information to get myself in trouble between talking with Aaron, living here in Green Bay,

and still being employed with the Green Bay Packers. So I know just enough to really get me. So I got to watch a lot of the stuff that I say here. But what I was really getting at last week is speaking from myself and knowing just kind of the situation and where we're at right now. I do believe there's a chance that Aaron Rodgers come back. I think it's a decent chance that Aaron Rodgers comes back. And really, this whole thing is going to come down to communication for us. Can they make him feel the love, right? Like Jerry Maguire, let me feel the love. And some of that

is probably going to be show him the money. And some of that is probably going to be contract. But he needs to feel the love. He needs to uh a certain type of way right now for whatever reason he just hasn't felt that way in quite some time coon what's it like in green bay right now like what are we know how crazy the fan base is what are they doing what's it like just going around day to day man people are nuts aj you know it people are nuts right now they're they're they're thinking up ways to to to end it all because they don't know what's going to happen if Aaron Rodgers leaves. And then there's the other side that says, we got rid of one. We can get rid of another.

We'll be just fine. It's mayhem right now, fellas. I'm telling you, this town, this state, everybody's turned upside down. They don't know which side of the fence they fall on right now, and they're just all emotional about it. You live in Green Bay full time? Oh yeah let's go good i couldn't get enough of the winners i was about to say i heard it gets real quick now indiana there's not a lot of sun here for like four or five months but i happen to go up there that week 17 lions packers game and got a chance to experience you know like bitter like bitter, cold ass Green Bay,

frozen tundra. Maybe it gets worse in January and February or whatever. But you did you when did you make that decision when you're playing there? Did you're like, you know what, this is going to be forever. I love this place. And I talked to Ty. I guess you were a Steeler originally. You're from Shippensburg, Pennsylvania. At what point were you like oh like i am i am the prototypical green bay pack i am i am the guy at what point did you realize that and know that that was going to be home no pretty much when they started yelling my name 80 000 deep i was like yeah i can't leave this place right now but uh but in all reality i mean i was here for nine years with aj and it was one of those things where towards the end of my career here, I knew it was getting close. My wife and I decided, heck, where do we want to move? Where

do we want to live? It's something a lot of guys in the NFL go through. Where are we going to live when we're done playing football? And for us, it was what's wrong with here? Nothing's wrong with here. So we decided to stay. And even when we went to New Orleans, we kept our place here. And we came back here in the off seasons,asons, which was torture because the off-seasons here is like the coldest time of year. So that was insane to do that. But, yeah, I mean, coming from Pennsylvania to Wisconsin, not all that much different, just a little bit colder, and it just seemed to fit our family well.

Ty Schmidt. Coon, you alluded to it 80,000 deep. You're one of my favorite Packers of all time, just a gritty son of a bitch. I loved watching you play. You already alluded to it going head to head with AJ a couple times. He's told us how he's had guys that basically have just like disintegrated

his teeth into dust. Were you ever getting the best of him? Like you said, we kind of know how he is. Well, I don't know. I mean, what were those really like? Look at his head. Why? Yeah, but look at your fucking jaw, dude. Yeah, dude. That's the only reason I don't know. I mean, what were those really like? Look at his head. Take a look at the size of Coon's head. Yeah, but look at your fucking jaw, dude.

That's the only reason I could not brother-in-law. If you're not going 100% against Coon, he's going to knock you out. You have to just protect yourself. I'm not going to cut it off. We had battles, and it was because AJ would never slow down, so I couldn't slow down. And if it's any point in time, if we could have came to the table

and just solved this as men and, like, talked this through, we probably would have lasted a little bit longer. But the fact that we never – I think we were both too proud to ever, you know, say, okay, well, I'll slow down a little bit, but I need to trust that you're – I don't know if we fully – Oh, this is awesome. This is awesome. You guys, good friends, good friends. Off the field, yeah?

Oh, yeah. But every day at practice, every day at practice, it sounds like, no matter what it was, neither of you would swallow your pride enough to be like, I'm not going 100% today. Neither of you would do that? How many years? When you're going against your friend, you have even more.

You can't let him get you oh my well let me tell you something about aj okay so when i first got to green bay aj was still all swolled up aj from yeah you know from the horseshoe right yeah he was still enormous neck like enormous arms like just big rocked up dude and trying to go nose to numbers with him was just a grind every single day but then aj realized i got chased backs out of the backfield and start covering them on routes and aj started slimming down and aj started running faster and that's when i was like all right aj just give me a little bit just give me a just give me five more pounds so i could try and push you a little bit uh that's incredible was anybody – that's back in the day when you were a fullback.

I mean, that was big bodies. You know, it was a lot of big bodies like A.J. was, and then he changed and the game has changed completely. And A.J., by the way, I don't think he has ever come out and been shy that he is a crown of the helmet to the chin guy. They might change football, but this is how leverage is. You had to. This is leverage, and they might change football but this is how this is how leverage is and this is leverage and this is what football is is leverage so usa football and i play football and all that other shit do not love when aj comes out and starts speaking about football but was there anybody that you had to go against yearly that it was like okay this particular week

i it is me in a cement mixer like is there anybody through your career that you knew was just going to be okay it's going to be a battle on Sunday Monday or whatever day of the week it was yeah I mean we we had some badass linebackers in the NFC North you talk about like EJ Anderson and Lance Briggs and even people our scouts used to come down to the room and say Earl Acker doesn't come down I used to tell you he doesn't have to come downhill. He's 275. He can take one step forward and just be an absolute stalemate, like just kill me with one step. So, I mean, we had real studs in the NFC North to go against, you know,

multiple times a year. But A.J. will attest to this. We had an absolute maniac on the team by the name of Robert Francois. And I had more hits with that dude at practice. He didn't care. He had absolutely disregard to the technique, to his own lifestyle, to his or my head. I mean, mine even less, but he could have cared less about anything.

That guy was a grind to go against every single day because he was all about the explosion at the point of contact. And it was tough, man. Those guys make you better. Well, and by the way, I just learned about this person's existence here. I should have known. But that's like somebody trying to make a team, though, like trying to put a living together for their family. And that's why these OTAs conversation, I think, is such a big deal because a lot of the vets are like, it's not just walkthroughs and this,

it's also these turned from, you know, a walkthrough into all one person has to do is a little bit of a spark. And then by the way, that has to be answered then with a spark. And then if that's just so happens to lean into some other people, there's going to be real. Cause everybody's trying to get a job and a competitive edge and everything

like that. This OTAs thing could get interesting. Where do you stand on that whole thing? Because it sounds like the players that had the virtual offseason and then the ramp up in the training camp last year loved it. But I don't know if that's just an easy thing for everybody to put in, especially because the collective bargaining and all that shit of it, Coon. Pat, I don't remember exactly, and I apologize for not knowing this,

what year you came in. 2009. We had two of these. We had two practices a day with full pads when we were destroying each other, and you'd walk to practice. You couldn't feel your neck walking down to practice, and you knew you had to do it all over again in the same day. I think what the players are trying to do for themselves,

it's only going to extend careers. It's only going to make them feel better. It's only going to make the job more enjoyable. I don't blame them one bit for trying to get every, you know, square inch that they can in this bargaining deal. You got the coaches on the other side like, we got to get these guys ready. It's a tough balance in between the two, but you talk about OTAs. And I can remember a man at the end of his career, Jeff Saturday,

came to us in Green Bay, very last year of his career, right? And we were in OTAs. And that same exact man I mentioned a second ago, Robert Francois, came downhill on an A-gap rush, ran straight into Jeff Saturday. And Jeff said, uh-uh, I'm taking two weeks off, fellas. I'm out of here. I'll see you in two weeks. And he did. But Jeff was a big union guy.

He knew what he was doing. He was setting the stage for the guys now that are playing now. But, yeah, this stuff happens, and it's real. And that's why there's a power struggle right now for how much practice is the right amount of practice. Coon, what about all this? What do you think is going to happen? I don't know if you know if there's how many players maybe going into the facility there at Lambeau to work out. We're hearing different stories about all of these different teams.

Did you think that the players were actually going to band together and all not go in person for these OTAs? Well, I suspected that there was going to be some of that, right? But I also know, especially for myself, being an undrafted free agent, know, especially for myself being a, an undrafted free agent, when they start saying, Hey, we're going to pay you $1,500 a week to come in here and jog around in shorts and spiders on. And I'm thinking to myself, I got $30,000, uh, you know, bill that I got to pay to Shibbensburg university. So I better collect this $1,500 for a short period of time while I'm here. I'm going in there and collecting that stuff. So I was really interested to see, can the vets, can the proven old guys with the big voices, can they convince these young players coming out that really need this exposure to try and up their chances to make a

team? And they need that little bit of cash flow. I mean, when you get that first check with a comma in it, you don't want to turn that thing down. So I was really interested to see how this thing turned out when they come back in. Now, the way the Packers are playing, and they're planning for guys to come in here in a couple weeks and start the offseason program, and we'll see if the players end up pushing back on that. The Vikings planned on that as well.

I think Thielen told us, and it might have been breaking news whenever he told us, they're going back in the building next week amid this whole struggle. They're like, if anybody going back in the building next week amid this whole struggle. They're like, if anybody's back in the building, we lose all leverage. So if another team is working out, like the Patriots allegedly have 50 people in the building or whatever, if other people are doing it, we're losing our leverage and we're not getting as good as that team's getting. So there's teams deciding, which we all knew.

Hey, Coon, we all knew. I mean, we all, we're all hoping, you know, good luck out there. But I thought it was going to be pretty difficult for Trevor Lawrence to do that speech at the press conference, you know, with Sean Conn meeting him, coming off of his plane and saying there. And then Trevor Lawrence saying, you know what, fuck you. I'm fucking out. We're changing these OTAs. I've never experienced one.

You just paid me like $20 million, but I'm out of here, dude. I didn't know how that was going to work. it is interesting hopefully it'll change some things going forward schedule release day uh coon anything you looked at whenever the schedule was released as a player bi-week only and what are your thoughts on the potential leaks that have come out thus far well yeah you always check the bi-week you always check to see when the worst period of your schedule is going to be uh if you have three road games in a row that was awful you hated that do you have back-to-back west coast trips things to that nature and then you try to see where uh your easier part of the schedule is your prime time games and stuff like that so that i mean that's really that's about it as a

player you can't really get too jacked up about a schedule because you know once you get into that season it's going to be a long grind you really wanted that bye week to fall somewhere in the middle that was probably the most important part these leaks are insane man i can't believe the nfl is is cool with this they gotta be just all up in arms they're supposed to be a big special tonight at 6 30 everybody's blowing the whistle saying this game's here this heck the packers somehow the packers on paper already have six or seven prime time games and and we don't even know where roger is going to be this year it's absolutely insanity well that sounds like the schedule makers think he's going to be in green bay who do the schedule makers know okay let's dive into that conversation

in sports media that's kind of how this whole thing pans out uh boston connor yeah uh john clearly you know you're from pennsylvania you live in green bay uh during the lockout were you just like laying brick or you know being like a demo man somewhere or you just you know sticking to the weights man i i you're gonna love this i went to the ymca and i worked out at the ymca yeah i'm just in there pounding weights with guys that got wraps around their knees, doing squats with 500 pounds and stuff. And then, you know, they come right up next to the football player that they know the football player is. And they start, yeah, they're getting after me because they're squatting way more than I am in the gym at that point in time. I'm just in there trying to get a good sweat on, not get hurt.

I was going to be a free agent that year. So my most important thing was let's not get hurt. So, okay, I'm going to get a little cardio cardio go play some basketball at the wire after i work out oh sure i mean i took a shot right to the head got eight stitches in my eyes we gotta calm that one down real quick i planned on playing pickup basketball as well and then as soon as they find out who you are everybody in there is going as hard as they possibly can at you as hard as they play basketball yeah me neither i'm like yo come on this guy's dinging me up like full core i'm getting a full core press i'm like i'm just trying to get some cardio can i get out of here please uh coon were

you a big weight guy you ate weights i big meathead guy still to this day yeah i'm a pretty big meathead i'm a basic fullback right i mean you can tell by my background I'm a, I'm a basic fullback, right? I mean, you can tell by my background, I'm a pretty basic dude. And, uh, I just stay, I stay in the weight room six o'clock every morning, try and get my mind right and get ready for the day. What do you do? You just put on some hard rock in there and you just start fucking going. Is it in the basement? Is this a public gym? What do you do now? You know, COVID really got me to, I was, I was sleeping on trying to get this home gym set up at my house. And there's a couple of gyms around town that I go to. I actually just kind of created a training facility for younger athletes here in the Green Bay area.

Yeah, let's go. That's awesome. ETS Green Bay, we train a lot of young people. Oh, that's Thielen. That's Thielen too, right? Yeah, yeah. I partnered with Thielen. Oh, did you hear the despicable things he said about Lamba?

What a classic out of context thing, by the way. Thielen woke up to an absolute war and it was completely taken out of context. But I'm sorry. Congrats on opening that. Good friend of mine. I bashed him on my show, too. Like, you open the green light, you take all the shots. Just start shooting away at him.

So I did the same thing. But yeah, so COVID got me to start actually getting some stuff done i think my wife was pretty happy because now there's not a room with a bunch of junk laying around it's actually organized somewhat dumbbells and some barbells and a couple ellipticals and stuff so yeah i would love it like aj in the morning aj what do you do you listen to death metal in the morning when you're getting after it every morning no i don't listen to anything in the morning. My kids are sleeping. I have to be somewhat quiet. You have headphones, dude.

I mean, I wear headphones, yeah, but no, I don't listen to Death Metal and bang my head off the wall. How come he hasn't given back to the community with the gym? Yeah, how come you and Thielen don't have a gym in Cincinnati? Because maybe an indoor practice facility for the Bengals. Why don't you do that? John Coon's giving back to Green Bay. He is. John Coon's a much better man than I am.

Maybe someday. Hey, John, thank you so much for your time. You're a legend, dude. Anytime, fellas. It was a blast. When's your show on in Green Bay? Nine to noon. It's got a really catchy headline. Nine to noon with Coon.

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go to barkbox.com forward slash pat that's b-a-r-k-b-o-x dot com forward slash pat all right Dot com forward slash Pat. All right. He's lifting more weights than you right now, or you still got him, you think? I mean, he might be. Coon is like one of those power lifters. He can throw some weight around. What if you guys had an Oklahoma drill and it was on the— Yes.

What if you and John Coon was the main event for the— and the undercard was Boston Connor and A.J. Dillon? Yeah. And it was an Connor and A.J. Dillon. It was an Oklahoma Oklahoma fest. You should do that drill that those two kids on the internet did yesterday. People are not happy. People are not happy. Hey listen, people were pissed at

Tebow yesterday. Yeah, they were more. That quickly changed whenever a video hit the internet of a training, a practice where one particular guy with the ball is probably going to quickly change whenever a video hit the internet of a training, a practice where one particular guy with the ball is probably going to be in the NFL and another probable future not football player maybe. Maybe this changes everything. No, no, no. One had a lot more aggression than the other.

Crown of helmet, two jaw, gone. Kick. Yeah, gone. Kick. Yeah, obliterated. Internet immediately goes, why is a four-year-old doing this drill? The brain in the skull has not even fully developed. People are thinking that that potentially is a problem. I agree with them. That's insane.

But then immediately upon watching that, I thought to myself, if Axel did that, AJ, you would probably celebrate this. Pat on the butt. No, I don't think so. Well, first off, the defender is set up for failure here in this drill. You've got to be kidding me. The person gets a running start at you while you're running at an angle trying to stop and redirect. Yeah, it's a terrible drill.

I think the internet said that this was one of the worst drills they've ever seen. Hope that kid is okay, by the way. Also, hope that kid isn't scared to death of football for the rest of their life because of this situation that happened the the football people on the internet basically came out and said whoever he's coached sean merriman i said he said he wants to go against the coach in the same drill you know like one of those like uh one of those like remember whenever um that that fighter, the mixed martial arts guy with MTV. Oh, boy, beat that. Oh, he beat that.

He'd show up and just beat him. Sean Merriman and others were like, they want to do that with the coach that put that kid in that situation. Not good for football, but my immediate thought was, if that was actual, I assume AJ would be like, listen, not good, but you saw. That's how you got attacked. Yeah, yeah.

That's how you got attacked. That's what you would have said. Get your ass downhill. No. I mean, credit to the kid with the ball in his hand. He definitely got downhill in a hurry, and he led with his face and head. Probably not the way they do it. That's how they teach you.

By the way, that kid, I think, has it. Oh, yeah. It certainly looks like it. Yeah, it is. Might be on the high school team. You know, terrible. I want to say terrible drill. But I think that kid has it.

I think that kid has it. I mean, maybe you should never be doing that drill. And if you do, you should probably try to pair them up a little more even than that, I guess. Oh, with mindset and physical size and speed and people that it looked like the one kid that got ran over didn't really understand the drill. He could have been their starting middle linebacker you don't know hey well the thing the problem is he he i don't think he is no i think the kid with the ball is probably yeah i hope that kid's okay obviously we think he is that's why he went on the internet drill is terrible but they i mean they that was that's supposed to be a sideline tackle and then they told him also square him up too like

i don't even know how what was the end game of that whole thing you know what i mean it looks like they're trying to like simulate like angle tackling but i don't know if the guy can turn put his foot in the ground and get up get downhill like that i mean yeah what are you gonna do the little kid his only chance there would have been just to go low and chop the dude's ankles out can we talk about the kid though that did the run over? With the ball? Hey. Yeah, man. He's a talent.

That Bam was already looking at it. He's got the mindset of like, hey, I am going to... Hey, AJ said this to us. He said, bull in the ring, Oklahoma drills. I had to get into the mindset that if the only way to survive this thing

and not get killed is to kill other people, I'm going to have to kill other people. That's right. And that kid has that at, what, four years old or whatever? That kid's going to be good. I think AJ was on to something there. Got to go low, he said. Take their knees out because that

age, you know, ACLs, they'll just repair themselves. I agree. Two weeks. We assume that kid's okay, by the way, because he is young in that whole thing. Can't thank you enough for choosing to listen to this show. If you're listening to this right now, we might be on a plane. We might be at work.

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