The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 414 - Baron Corbin, Julian Edelman

Episode Date: May 13, 2021

Todays show comes from you down in Tampa Florida as Pat Begins to prepare for Friday Night Smack DAHN. The boys have made the trip with him and jump right into the conversation surrounding the NFL Schedule release. Former NFL lineman, and current WWE superstar Baron Corbin joins the show in studio. Baron and Pat reminisce on their time as teammates as well as tell some legendary stories. AJ Hawk comes on to the show to Join pat in his conversation about the upcoming NFL season. Super Bowl Champion Julian Edelman joins the show to discuss his recent retirement and his time as a New England Patriots. Make sure to subscribe to YouTube.com/ThePatMcAfeeShow and listen every day on Mad Dog Sports Radio, Sirius XM Channel 82. We appreciate you all for listening, come laugh with us, cheers.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello, it is Thursday, May 13th, 2021, years after zero. We are currently sitting in a living room at the Fandle Beach House in Tampa Bay. Foxy is shuffling a deck of Euchre cards with the scorecards in there as well to decide who will have to pay for lunch down here in Tampa Bay. It's a fantastic day to be alive. We have Julian Edelman on the show. He gives us a great conversation. A.J. Hawk, Baron Corbin. It's a big day to be alive. We have Julian Edelman on the show. He gives us a great conversation. AJ Hawk, Baron Corbin.

It's a big Thursday. The boys are on fire. If you enjoy the show, by the end of it, please be a friend. Tell a friend. If not, just act like it never happened. Ty, let's get to this thing. That's right. The NFL schedule was officially released last night, although there was a bunch of leaks

and we were a part of one of the leaks. Yes, Tampa Bay will have to travel to Los Angeles, all the way back to Tampa, then up to New England for the Brady-Belichick battle of week four. So that's a little bit of bullshit, but the Patriots are also facing the most teams coming off of bye weeks, and that's really all you can digest with the schedule release. There's a lot of expectations on who has the easiest schedule,

who has the hardest schedule. None of us know any of that. Okay. It is physically impossible to determine which teams next year are going to be ass. We know there's going to be a couple of teams that are going to be good. Okay. Everybody kind of knows that there's going to be teams that are going to go

out there. They're going to be in contention. Actually coaches and GMs in the winning organizations actually come out and have said there's normally only about six seven of us maybe eight of us that can really go on a run here now injuries are a real thing both with teams getting them last year and maybe not playing anywhere near their best so they are ranked low and teams say this is a terrible team they're playing it's like well what if and Michael Pittman come back and all of a sudden the Indianapolis Colts have a full arsenal of weapons for Carson Wentz to throw the ball? But also, what if they get hurt again?

What if Carson Wentz stinks? You have no idea what the Colts could be. A lot of people are saying the Colts have an easy schedule. A lot of people are potentially saying they have a hard schedule because the Colts are on them. I'm a Colts fan. Paid to be one. Was a part of the Colts schedule released last night.

We have no idea what that team's going to be. They could be Super Bowl contenders for the next 10 years, or they could stink. They won't stink because they have enough good players. But you understand what I'm saying. There's nothing we can really get out of this schedule release except for excitement for some moments that are going to come. Now, we all knew that Tom and Bill were going to battle. Now we know it's week four. We all knew that Post Malone's dad used to be a chef in the Dallas Cowboys organization,

but we had no idea that he and Jerry Jones would be making it rain schedule cards on top of Dak and Zeke after putting a big-ass chain on Jerry Jones and them playing beer punk, okay? So there's some magical moments that came out of last night that we'll definitely have to talk about. We're down here at the FanD beach house in tampa bay florida uh tampa bay is a story of a lot of things going into the nfl season especially after schedule release but now we have odds on quarterbacks there's some schedules that were released that didn't have pictures of their star players hello atlanta

hello atlanta no julio jones in the photo interesting what's that mean does that mean julio jones on a move where the hell is he going is he going to green bay is that how they're gonna keep aaron rogers around i tell you what that'd be a good start is that what's gonna happen is that what's gonna happen who knows also uh raiders derrick carr was not on one of the schedule photos wow yeah they had two schedule photos that they tweeted out derrick carr was not on either one of them what does that mean is derrick are the guy or is that just they're trying to give other people a little bit of shine you tell me i'm not sure should we dig guy, or is that just they're trying to give other people a little bit of shine?

You tell me. I'm not sure. Should we dig into it, or should we not? I'm sure Raiders fans don't want us to, so we won't. So fuck them. But I am excited for the season, and I think last night kind of rekindled the flame inside of me about excitement that NFL season, although it seems like it's far, far, far away. It's right around the corner. I have Boston Connor, Ty Schminder here, the Talks to the Table boys. How you doing, Connor? season although it seems like it's far far far away it's right around the corner at boston connor

ty schminder here the toxic table boys how you doing connor the patriots in your eyes got fucked but in my eyes the only game that matters early in the season is belichick brady and it seems like they're trying to fuck brady for that thing well i mean from first look maybe but then you go and you see jimmy winston you know boxing with jay glazer and we got a jay glazer jimmy winston and then a junior Tom Brady right after it. Are you kidding me? Interesting.

You said Tom Brady, Tom, Thomas Patrick, Edward Brady, or Thomas Edward Patrick. Thomas Patrick, Edward Brady. Thomas Patrick, Edward Senior called in. So that would mean that Tom Brady is a junior. Oh yeah, he's a junior. How come we never talk about that? I don't know. He doesn't like it, I don't junior. How come we never talk about that? I don't know. He doesn't like it, I don't think.

He doesn't want the junior to come back. What if that was TBJr12? What if that was the... I guess it is a little bit different. What if everybody started calling him Deuce, as in like the second, you know what I mean? Change his number, maybe? Oh, my.

Anyways, Thomas Edward Patrick Brady Sr. called into a New England sports show this morning. Yes, sir. What was the name of the show? Zo and Bertrand. And that is on? 98.5 Sports Hub. Okay.

And are we assuming that this definitely is Thomas Brady Sr. calling into this? Because this clip that has made its way into our show, potentially here in the next 30 seconds, interesting to listen to. We're saying this is definitely him? I'm going to say it's definitely him, but as far as my recollection of how Tom Brady Sr. sounds, I'm not 100% positive because I blocked him out of my brain. Okay, so I think this is my favorite story

coming out of the scheduled releases. Tom Brady Sr. calling into a talk radio show in New England this morning to talk about it. Foxy, go ahead and roll that thing. I saw the schedule come out last night, and I started salivating when I saw that we play the Patriots in the fourth game of the season, and that we're coming up here to make our record 4-0 after the fourth game. So it's a pretty fun time. Well, I mean, hey, you got Cowboys on that opening night, and then I think it's Atlanta.

Then you got a tough West Coast trip against the Rams. That's going to be a short week for your guy there to get ready. But you still think it's 4-0 coming out of the gate? Well, I don't know if it'd be – yeah. I actually – you know, they're all tough. You look at them and there are no walkovers. It's the NFL. But, you know, coming back home to Boston, you know, it's our second home here.

And the Patriots are our second favorite team. It's a game where we get to root against nobody. We get to root for the Patriots. But our most favorite team, of course, is the Buccaneers. So we expect to beat the Patriots rather handily. I wonder if Junior heard this clip

and said, Dad, come on. Are you shitting me? Stop calling it. So it was a call from Tom in California. We don't know if that's Tom Brady Senior or not. It would be a fascinating human to call in and act as if he was Tom Brady Senior to call in there. But it does feel as if the Patriots fans, you know, who got to see Tommy boy go out and win another one for another team. Finally give him the reception he has deserved for all these years of service.

And I assume, unlike how you guys treat everybody else in that building, when Tom's taking a snap and when Tampa Bay's on offense and he goes like this to you guys. Oh, yeah, right. And you guys are all going to get quiet. Oh, no. He's going to be up there. You guys are going to be like, this is Tom's house.

Oh, no, no. The Buccaneers might score a touchdown. Buccaneers might score a touchdown. I assume first player or something like that. Tom will hit Gronk. Oh, yeah. And then Gronk might grab the Minutemen's little gun and then shoot that thing off. And then all of a sudden, Gronk will maybe go like this to the crowd.

And maybe he'll go, this is Gronk's house. No chance. Gronk, this is your wicked house, dude. Nuh-uh. Yeah, that's what you guys are going to have to do. No way. Listen, Vinatieri. Yes, exactly. Vinatieri. Yes, exactly.

Vinatieri, obviously living legend. I got a chance to shoot some content with him. He is absolutely yoked right now. Yeah. And out of our scheduled release video that came out from the Colts, incredible job editing that by the Colts. Well done. Great video.

Thank you for letting us be a part of that. We had to record that a couple weeks ago. I had a beard then. It was a nice trip back to glory days. It's coming back. It is, but it's... It is. Yeah, but you see how weak it is.

Like, everybody sees this first one. It's going to take three more of those to grow in for it to actually be visible because I'm a red-faced Irish person. I think it looks good with the hat, though. I think the hat distracts quite a bit. Yeah, well, I don't have the chain, right? Because I couldn't put the chain on to distract from the face. But anyways, me and Vinatieri shot that a couple weeks ago.

Vinatieri said in the thing, he's not officially retired. He still kicks because his kid is a fucking stud, I guess. His kid's going to go D1, probably into the NFL, can bomb balls. I've seen videos of him. And I asked Vinny, I'm like, what's up with AJ? Like, is he, by the way him and I asked Vinny I'm like what's up with AJ like is he is AJ by the way there's a junior I'm like how is how is AJ you know he's like he's getting there he works hard or whatever

it's like yeah but is he hitting balls you know he's like yeah he had some balls where I'm like okay this is like NFL type ball I'm like damn it's gonna be better than you this fucking awesome you know so he's like let's not get too you know too excited whatever I'm like nah kids gonna make a billion dollars like hey tell him stop going to school yeah what's he get his get too excited or whatever. I'm like, nah, kid's going to make a billion dollars. It's like, hey, tell him to stop going to school. Get his ass out there on the field.

No, I'm joking. I'm joking. That's why I don't have a child. And hopefully I will someday, but it will probably be a piece of shit kid if I had to guess. And hopefully my wife, Sam, will do that whole thing. But Vinatieri, he's not officially retired. I think he could go out and kick right now if he had to. and maybe if his son punts for a team he'll come out and kick it'll be like a ray mysterio uh dominic mysterio lebron and brawny situation you know

maybe that's what vinatieri's trying to do there's no reason he should be in as good a shape as he's in right now put him at running back foxy you got to see him. He is yoked. He looked incredible. He looks so good. Yoked right now. He's a full linebacker. What is he, 48 or 49? 48 maybe? 47? He's up there somewhere.

Oh, yeah. Whatever it is. Close to 50. He's absolutely yoked. It was cool to do that. But Vin and Terry going back to New England, because at the beginning of my career with Indianapolis, we played New England every year. Tom, Peyton.

They wanted to make it happen. It was just, and for whatever reason, whenever I got there, we were going to New England every year. Tom, Peyton. They wanted to make it happen. It was just, and for whatever reason, whenever I got there, we were going to New England every year. Now, granted, there's that fourth and two at home. Melvin Bullitt with the big tackle. That was at home. But every other time, it felt like we were going up there and playing up there a lot. Vinatieri, walking onto the field for warm-ups. Everybody's so nice.

Oh, yeah. It was unbelievable how nice. I was like, you know what? I've never really been up to the northeast much only plays a couple of soccer tournaments don't really know the people up here everybody's like venice you know venice thank you for what you did you know then as we go back in after warm-ups you know then as more people fill in and then it's getting to game time we walked out before everybody to go kick a little bit it walking out there for the game it was a much it was a a switch was flipped oh yeah i have never

it was the polar opposite of same person asking vinny for a autograph or a picture or or merch or like a glove or something or anything as soon as he comes back out there, you fucking rat piece of shit. Oh, Bob. I was like, oh my God. I literally was like, I just saw this guy. So then the entire game on the sideline, by the way, because we're sitting on the sideline, and that place doesn't get anywhere near the amount of credit it gets

for being a terrible place to play. I mean, the weather always stinks. It's always windy. And the fans, people hate Patriots fans on the internet yeah in real life if you're not a Patriot it is a rompous environment they are a it seems like a working class fan base okay that has that mentality uh there's still a lot of grit you know still a lot of oh yeah but also really good, you know, so you kind of put that whole thing together. That is not an easy place to play.

What they did to Vinatieri for four straight quarters every time we went up there on the bench was unbelievable. As soon as the game's over, though, by the way, the switch is flipped once again. Thank you for everything, Mr. Vinatieri. Love you, Vinny. I'll be excited to see what they do for Tom up there. Honestly, he gave you your entire childhood. Tom Brady gave you your entire fucking happiness, your life, parades.

He gave you your fanhood probably. All of New England can thank Tom Brady, not only because of what he did on the field, but because of what he was doing in the locker room and in the meetings, allowing Bill Belichick to chastise him in front of everybody else so he could do it to everybody else, taking pay cuts so that team could continue to win, doing all this shit. Johnny Foxborough, okay?

Junior. Junior. I don't know if Tom Brady Sr. is considered Johnny Foxborough the first, but Johnny Foxborough up there behind the scenes at the end of it, he felt like he was disrespected. There's no way these Patriots fans, though, this quickly, will be able to flip the switch just like they did with vinatieri and bury him up there because it's not it's not anymore you know so bill belichick treats him like shit so you guys gotta treat him like shit yeah exactly fall in line act as the leader acts but it's not as if

it's you know new england patriot legend tom br Brady forever. It's Tampa Bay Buccaneer legend Tom Brady now going forward because he got that Super Bowl. I bet it's the loudest in New England it's ever been when they come to town. You're telling me you don't think Bill Belichick should, out of just gratitude for what Tom and Gronk and even Antonio Brown have done, just let them score a couple early. Antonio Brown. Yeah, let them score a couple early week four.

Week four, they should just let them go hey you know what go ahead and let tom run one in like the good old days and then whenever the the cannon goes off and then i think they're not sounding cannons when the buccaneers score yeah they should tom no this guy no tom no yes no listen when tom goes up there you guys probably what oh and three at the time? 3-0. Okay. A couple blowouts. Minus Jimmy Winston.

Senior says they're going into that game 3-0 and they're not playing on leave without having a 4-0 record. There's no way this guy loses to this guy, right? You don't think that this guy is going to possibly rest players week three just to be fresh for this guy coming to town week four? There's no way this guy loses to this guy. That guy isn't winning in this guy's house. This guy took a stand, walked out of the building, wins a Super Bowl. You think when he goes back into the house he's going to lose?

Look, this guy didn't just walk out of the building. He made a Hulu commercial and messed with everybody in New England that the fans don't forget about. He won a Super Bowl without him. Oh, yeah. He did not fucking leave it, and then he fucking left. So there's a lot of animosity from New England fans towards Tom Brady. And you're going to hear it week four.

That's interesting. I thought you guys were, like, claiming Tom there at the end of the playoff run last year. Good for Tom. It's our Tom. That's our Tom guy. We love Tom. As all people should, we bow down to the ones who won the whole thing. And he won seven it was pretty

sweet to see hey i like history he sued me you know what do you want from me okay but when that week four game happens belichick's walking out with a victory it's crazy you like history but you guys will completely forget that the guy that made all of your history moments is coming back and you will refuse to show any respect and that i appreciate yeah and also you know i think that's why people potentially call you guys scumbags it's a what have you done for me and it's always been new england versus everybody and it always will be no it's actually detroit first everybody they have that thing thank you a lot of people have almost been sued because they try to do what you just did is merch. And then the city of Detroit sues you.

Like, we don't have much up here, okay? We don't have much up here. We do have that statement. Don't do that. I think the week four matchup, though, is awesome. And I'm excited to see the Patriots fans do what the Patriots fans do. Just like when Peyton came back to Indianapolis. You know, Peyton came back to Indianapolis for the War of 1812.

And that was his first trip back. And I did not know how it was going to work because when Peyton was the Indianapolis Colts quarterback, when he would do this, okay, it wasn't just the stadium, whether it was the RCA Dome. I was not there for that, but Lucas Oil Stadium. Babies in hospitals stopped crying just because they wanted Peyton to be able to clearly communicate with his offense. Everybody in Indiana knew the deal when Peyton was quarterback. And when Peyton would do this, hey, we need a little bit, guess what? Those babies that are in just popped out, you know what I mean?

They're in those little things. They're standing on top of those little bubbles that they're in, and they're hitting the fucking thing. That's the type of control that Peyton had over the entire state because it was a basketball and racing state, and then Peyton showed up and the boys, not just Peyton had over the entire state because it was a basketball and racing state, and then Peyton showed up and the boys, not just Peyton, by the way, and he's the one who gets the statue and everything. There's an entire crew of that whole team.

Whenever they would do a thing, the entire state knew it. They'd get quiet. When he came back, though, loudest I've ever heard of stadium, whenever he was on offense, it felt as if the Colts fans were almost like, hey, Peyton, you remember what you taught us? Like, now we're going to fuck you with this thing. I'd never heard them any game after that or before that do what they did that night in trying to make Peyton's life miserable.

When he came out, there was an entire video montage, which I assume you guys will do as well. Like, a thank you for Gronk and for Tom, I assume. Fans, by the way, standing ovation. It was almost like a chills moment almost because he took his because peyton is a robot as well so like he took his helmet off after he came out and did like a thank you like a full thank you thing you know and then helmet goes back on and i was like how's this gonna go i i really did not know how it was gonna go because i think i was you know a long i mean this guy this guy. This guy. Hey, we're live, dude. Okay, are you outside?

I'm outside. Okay, all right. We'll let you in. Someone needs to go let him in. Baron Corbin will be joining us. Yeah. But whenever, in studio. But whenever, when Peyton went out on offense,

I didn't know what the Colts fans were going to do. You know, I thought they were going to, like, show him respect or whatever. They did not. It was very loud. It was rompous. It was awesome. I would assume the Patriots fans are going to do the exact same thing. And Gronk might get treated worse than Tom. I would assume so, especially

after some of the stuff coming out where it's like, hey, Gronk was thinking about coming back early. He was told not to by someone else who's coming back home for the first time, Junior. And so I do think all the former Patriots coming back to New England will get a full day of screaming. Okay, that's week four. Can't wait for that to happen.

Ty, the Packers have one Monday Night Football game and it's week two or something like that? Correct, against the Lions. How many primetime games? Five. Five primetime games, which is. How many primetime games? Five. Five primetime games, which is a lot of primetime games. Yeah. Tied for the most. A lot of primetime games tied for the most.

I guess that means everybody is assuming that Aaron's coming back. Andy Reid came out and said something along the lines of, can't wait to see Patrick Mahomes and Aaron Rodgers play. Does Andy Reid think that Aaron Rodgers and Green Bay Packers are going to get something done? Does anything that has happened with the schedule release or any of the information we've heard that has been released in the last couple days make you believe Aaron Rodgers is definitely going to be a Packer next year?

Maybe a little bit. I mean, five primetime games is a lot. We're live. You hear me? What is that, seven phone calls while we're live over there? I know. We don't have your time. You'll be back on the other side of the break.

But to your point, two of those games I think can be flexed out of so they could move them down to three. It's hard to get excited because guess what? You know, the Packers will be one of those teams who could win the Super Bowl next year if they have Rodgers. If they don't, no shot at Jordan Love, no shot at Blake Bortles. They will be ass next year. That's one of the teams who could win the Super Bowl next year if they have Rodgers. If they don't, no shot at Jordan Love, no shot at Blake Bortles. They will be ass next year. That's one of the teams that could be ass.

Exactly. Now, Blake Bortles, congrats on... I'm obviously a big Blake Bortles fan. Of course. Saw him in the AFC South, got a chance to chat with him. Yeah. He actually punted a ball in celebration against us in London. I thought it was potentially a kick in the nuts to me while doing it. He did not get a penalty because the refs were against us that day.

It was fucking Walt. But hammer down boys back in Indianapolis. What were you going to say? You guys got some stuff here? So on Good Morning Football this morning, the two heads of the schedule making committee or whatever were on today and they start making the schedule literally the first day after the season's over

and then they finish a couple days before it is put out. So I doubt they had any work. We're working for three months. Hey, we've been working on this show, what, since the last show ended. Yesterday, we started working on this show at 3.34.

And we kind of pieced it together here right before we went live. Diggs, come on. You don't believe that. Yeah, I do. Why wouldn't I? Diggs, come on. You don't believe that. Yeah, I do. Why wouldn't I? Diggs. Tony. Tony.

Diggs, everybody's full of shit. You know that. I mean, it's like 270 games. What are we talking? I don't know. Anyways. What should we be betting on? We have to get to a break here in like two minutes or so, so that Tom Pestock, Baron Corbin, King Corbin can join us.

He just, I mean, what did he he tried to do he tried to take over the show when he wasn't in the room yeah of course he comes into the room hammered down boys is there any bets we should be looking at and did you guys learn anything via the schedule release on how we can potentially take all of FanDuel's money with this entire thing they did release the week two matchups today on

FanDuel you can get the Chiefs minus one at the Ravens nah don't do it. Listen. Remember what we just talked about yesterday, boys? That Chiefs team will kill you. That's just a money line pick, though. Chiefs own the Ravens. Okay. Let's get to a break. We'll get to a break.

Baron Corbin, King Corbin is a massive Kansas City Chiefs fan. Oh, yeah. So we'll talk to him about that. You know, people are saying Chiefs maybe never, never make it back to the Super Bowl. Yeah, yeah. A lot of people are saying that. We weren't saying that.

A lot of people are saying that. We'll talk to Tom who's been on. What should I call you? What should I call you? What should I call you, though? What am I allowed to call you? What should I call you? King Corbin.

King Corbin will join us on the other side can i wait to chat with him he was uh how many teams two three two teams been there done that small school undrafted free agent i mean and then now they call him king yeah what a life people go through many changes as we get older, isn't that right? Oh, yeah. For men, one of the less fortunate changes is that testosterone production begins to naturally decrease in the body. Did you know this, AJ? I am aware. For most men, it begins around the age of 30,

and testosterone production declines by roughly 1% per year. My God. So if you live to 130, you ain't got shit left. No. Minus 30. Well, if it starts around 30, this is one of those questions on a test

where, you know, begins around 30. And the testosterone production declines by roughly 1% per year. So does it start at zero or does it start at 30? That's the thing. This is where they can get you it's one of them damn word problems this is one of those problems where you're like well wait a minute uh which can i ask a follow-up anyways i was good at those tests because i always viewed

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That's good news. That's what I want. Now we know. Hey, Roman. Thank you, Roman. Thank you, Roman. Thank you, Roman. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now,

I don't know everything you've won in WWE. It's a long list. King Corbin Yeah I like that you clap for yourself I do like that Hey you and I were teammates rookie year You had a much different body then Same mindset

You and I chatted a lot About if this doesn't work Because at that point I didn't really know how to punt a football And you were an undrafted free agent We're gonna go do we're gonna go do wrestling that's what we're gonna do that was the plan we talked a lot about it with the lockout too because we were worried about the lockout a little bit we were like we need a we need a secondary plan our rookie year they were telling us like hey this lockout's coming you all are fucked save money basically there's probably not gonna be football next year yeah it was a big

deal so we had to spoke we golfed a lot together we went out a lot together we uh but i feel like our common interest of wrestling was really what brought us together because if you if somebody's a wrestling fan growing up you can talk to them a certain way they understand like it's like uh it's like one of those things like they get it and now here you are man i before i get into just berating you and burying you for like an hour and a half or whatever. You're still mad about all those times I beat you in golf. That's the problem. You have no idea.

At one o'clock, whenever AJ gets on here. Okay. And I don't know if you know AJ Hawk. You two are very similar human beings. I assume you're going to get along very well. I don't know if you heard about this. There's a $20 million golf bet that I hear. $20 million.

Yeah. We'll wait for him to get on for you to really $20 million golf bet that I hear. $20 million. Yeah, yeah. We'll wait for him to get on for you to really hear about that thing. But I want to let you know, incredibly proud of you, buddy. Yeah! Thank you. I remember back in the day, you were scared to have any tattoos that were maybe potentially going to piss off the family. Now, look at you.

Ink your whole body. Covered. Covered. Covered. I was still worried. My mom still yells at me. I'm 36 years old. My mom still yells at me i'm 36 years old my mom still yells at me yeah i remember you got one on like your thigh i think or your chest i had my chest done

in indie yeah you had your chest done and you had one on your thigh i think at the time and i i believe i asked like why do you have all these fucking weird placements of these tattoos like well my mom can't see them yeah i don't from the mall that's the truth i was like valid valid okay i get it uh but i want to let you know, incredibly proud of you. It is awesome. Now let's get to what we have to get to here. Kansas City Chiefs are playing the Buccaneers yet again, right? That's happening?

It is. Is that happening in the season? Also, Kansas City Chiefs have to play Aaron Rodgers and the Packers. I believe the Kansas City Chiefs, for probably the next 10 years, are going to have a tough schedule. This is just like when the Colts had the Peyton in the Patriots or whatever. Now that you guys are spotlight team, primetime team, they're going to try to play you against everybody. Are you not worried that the Kansas City Chiefs now we have a lot of friends over there.

So I have to really balance how much I'm shit talking you and them at the same time because they don't deserve what I'm sending to you. But are the Chiefs ever going to make it back to the Super Bowl, you think, with how long these roads are going to be? I know you're just trying to rile me up. No, no, no. It's a real question. I just want to know. It's not.

Okay, so what Green Bay are we going to see? Oh, you're saying with Aaron Rodgers or without? With or without. And if he's there, is he disgruntled? Does he want to play? Does he want to win? What happens? Because he wanted out after the draft, I feel like, last year.

So he went out and had a Pro Bowl season to rub it in their faces of how good he is. Now he wants out. His timing was perfect to irritate him. So what do we get? What Green Bay do we get? What Bucs do we get? We're here in Tampa Bay. So you're saying Chiefs beat the Packers.

There's one of them off. I'm saying that it's going to be interesting to see what Green Bay we have out there. Now, as a former player in the NFL and a man who now is I mean, whenever you're in WWE it's a lot of business talk too. Like you've got to handle your own business. There's no offseason. You've got to

figure out what you're going to do body-wise, everything like that. Can you see how Aaron could be incredibly pissed off with what the packers are doing with what kansas chiefs have done for patrick mahomes now patrick mahomes has to have the ability to make all those plays and he has to be a guy he was a guy they sent alex smith out of town after alex smith's best season andy reed and viet you're like hey let's load this team up for this guy we can do that do you not think and you've been in the nfl obviously you know nfl guys you're friends

with nfl guys do you not think if you're let let's say Aaron or even Russ, when you see what happens in Kansas city, you see in Tampa Bay, don't you think you could see even as undrafted free agent and me as a punter, so low on the totem pole of the entire life thing, you could see how a quarterback could potentially be fucking pissed off about it. Dude, I would be livid. What did we say? We talked about this last week. It was like what?

2001 was the last time they first round drafted. 2002. But I mean be livid. What did we say? We talked about this last week. It was like, what, 2001 was the last time they first round drafted? 2002, I think. But, I mean, come on. How are you not going to help the guy? He can only carry so much weight right now in Green Bay. So you've got to get help around him. They did it with Mahomes. They do it with all kinds of guys.

I mean, they did it here in Tampa Bay. When Tom Brady came, they brought in some help. You have to help your quarterback. How long have you lived here? Eight years now here 8 years now 7 years now you think about becoming a Buccaneer fan

last year not a chance no I heard you did I didn't know no I absolutely did not I talked to your neighbor no my neighbor

is standing right there and we talked about it this morning that I will never commit to the Buccaneers they bought a team to win the Super Bowl that's what they did

everybody who scored in the Super Bowl wasn't on the team the year before they bought a team who cares in the Super Bowl wasn't on the team the year before. They bought a team. Who cares? Who cares? But I'm saying that doesn't earn me as a fan.

Oh, I'm Kansas City all the way through. What, they just did Patrick Mahomes $500 million? Oh, they're buying a team. He earned it, though. Did he not earn it? Yeah, he did. I mean, he's really fucking good. Andy Reid did his thing. I'm all about everybody getting, hopefully, a billion Why in the T? He earned it, though. Did he not earn it? Yeah, he did. I mean, he's really fucking good. Andy Reid did his thing.

I'm all about everybody getting hopefully a billion dollars in the business. We want everybody to make as much as possible. As much as possible. That's kind of how every player in the history of players has always felt. That's why you're not going to hear a lot of players ever bury other players whenever they're handling their business. You got money. Everybody's proud of you.

Yeah, congrats. Comes in the locker room. Hey, good for you, man. Yo. I know there's some drama. Do your thing thing? You're not gonna talk about the exact money But if let's say there is a public dispute that happens business-wise Nope, like it's our job as teammates not to like hey man. What the fuck you do like that is not That is not what teammates are gonna do it all. No, it's a complete opposite actually

It's like okay. Hopefully you get your money man. luck and as an offensive lineman too your quarterback gets 500 million go man i bet he's gonna get us a nice present at the end are we gonna get rolex's we're gonna get golf clubs he's gonna take us to hawaii i mean when i was in uh arizona i think it was it was derrick anderson took the whole starting line to hawaii on vacation it's like it's like derrick anderson did that yeah and then i think cobb was taking the boys hog hunting. Like, it's, you know, your quarterback's taking care of stuff. If he gets paid, everybody gets broken off a little bit. I would assume Christmas is a little bit better in Kansas City there for the big boys.

Did you see Kyle Long? He retired. One year, right? Yeah, he's coming back. One year for Kansas City. So, as an offensive lineman, Missouri, which one? Northwest Missouri State. Northwest Missouri State.

Whenever you go from, I don't want to say small school it is division two you went to a small school yeah they missed by the way all the big schools missed on king corbin so i had some offers i had i had missouri ku and wyoming were big school offers but okay they were all like two and ten teams yeah they stink and then wyoming's going hey we have tunnels to you know get the climb going what tunnels for what and they're like well you get like four or five feet of snow i go i'm i'm going back like no thank you was it tough i'm not trying to freeze to death i mean obviously you didn't end up being an all pro in the nfl but you were around a lot longer than a lot of people in the n. How hard was it going from like Northwest Missouri State to the men's league as an offensive line?

It's the stigma you have. I think that's the hardest part because talent-wise, I think there's a lot of guys who are equivalent from small schools to major schools. I think the difference between a Division I school, obviously, and Division II is they have 11 guys plus backups that are playing at that level, where a premier division two school has two or three guys that i think could hang at major division one schools uh so you don't think

trey lance like trey lance is coming out of nowhere getting dropped into the san francisco 49ers like you don't think that type of like oh this is the big lights now you don't think that's that big of a deal no i don't't because you know the top tier players they play when those lights are on regardless of where they're at and I think the hardest part is getting over the stigma of being from a division two school because I had scouts there every week talking to me my whole senior year I'm talking every single week and they go man if you were just at a big big school you'd be a third round pick and I'm going what's the difference so they could see you play against others yeah and and that's it too and you know I played against Division I guys in the Texas First Nation game kind of thing.

And you're going, I can play with these dudes. I'm the same size. I'm faster. I'm stronger. Yet the competition every week is not there because there are dudes when we play schools like Fort Scott, or not Fort Scott, but Fort Hayes, which is a Division II school. Like, to me, that was shooting fish in a barrel. I was just murdering people left and right.

Like they had no business, in my opinion. Yeah, but that happened to D1 too. It does. It does because you get big schools that want to play those lower end Divin I's. You got him playing Dn at some places. Yeah, but again, I'm feisty. You never know. I'll fire off.

Yeah, absolutely. But you face that stigma your whole career. We look at the NFL. It is a paper league, in my opinion, to some extent, where they could take two guys with the exact same ability and go, well, this guy's from Ohio State. This guy's from Northwest Missouri State. We're going to go with this guy because it's going to help us not only on the field

but with coaches, with bringing other things. Look at Tebow now. I was about to say. Rob Ninkovich, hold on. Before you get done, Rob Nink who i texted i said hey yo i wanted him to come on he said uh to greeny i said i don't know if it was on greeny's radio show or on get up he said i've been out of the league for whatever i'd go put some pads on i could throw around tim tebow right now this is not something that happens or whatever in the nfl i guess

they'll find out you hate that they signed him or no i mean again i'm not hating anybody for going to get paid getting an opportunity to play. But is he taking an opportunity away from a kid that potentially could do better? Yes, I think so. From Northwest Missouri State. From anywhere. To me, he's going in there because of the coach and he wants

him there because he's a locker room leader, a good guy, whatever it is. But to me, you're taking an opportunity away from a 22-year year old kid that i think could potentially be four or five six year player that you know doesn't have the recognition or the connections that tim tebow has how many years are you in the league about three we're talking to a king corbin which you you won the andre the giant battle with the inaugural one the first one yes yes no no i was the third who won the first one? No, I was the third.

Who won the first one? Cesaro. Oh, by the way, big weekend for Cesaro. Right? Huge. It's going to be important. We'll see if he steps up to the plate. You give guys opportunities.

Sometimes they knock it out of the park. Sometimes they fall flat. What does that mean? So in your guys' business, what does it mean knocking it out of the park? Before we get to wrestling. You just got to tear it down, yeah. How tall are you? 6'7 on a good day.

What did you weigh in the NFL? I was 330 in Arizona. Jesus. Hey, the photos are not good, by the way. I mean, but you have to be. Offense line, you have to be big. I was not good, but I was happy because I was eating whatever. I was eating peanut butter milkshakes and mozzarella sticks every night because I had to be fat.

You had to be. You literally had to be. When I was in Indy, they wanted me like 315, 318. Then I got to Arizona, they moved me inside the guard because they had a lot of pulling plays and zones and screens, and I could get out and run. They're like, we want you a little bigger, between 325 and 335. And I was like, okay.

There was a convenience store by my house. I got hot dogs, onion rings, mozzarella sticks. Because, you know, when you're in the league, but you're working out so hard all the time, especially in Arizona. We had John Lott, who he was awesome. He was crazy as could be. Strength coach?

Yeah. And we would go out, and it felt like we were running for hours in 110-degree heat, and it's hard to keep that weight on. So I couldn't eat. Now I'm 265. I'm trying to get under 260 right now. Hey, you look good. You've done a full transformation.

You know what I do. Right in front of the world's eyes, by the way. Yeah. You did it right in front of the world's eyes. The hair thing that happened. Hair was off. Pretty pumped for you to. Yeah, that felt good.

Yeah, we're pumped you moved on from there. Me too. Me too. That was rough. Sleeping with it. And then, you know, to wrestle with it, dude, you got to put seven gallons of conditioner in it or you're going to choke on it. It's just one of those things.

It's not fun. Okay, so the guy I – scumbag I wrestled, you know, my first match. Yeah, yeah. The little guy, right? Yeah. Shithead. He did beat you, though. I made a real mistake, and you did not help me with that.

You did not say, hey, when he puts his head right in front of the stairs, don't do it. He's going to try to get you to kick the stairs and break your foot. You didn't tell me that. Bad friend. I thought you were a little bit smarter. Bad friend. That's my bad.

Bad friend. My bad. But anyways, you know, because I had never been in there really before. Yeah. Except for that time you wrestled in overalls or jean shorts or whatever it was. War pig. War pig. One, two.

Yeah. That was a W. Not a good look for you. That was a W. Yeah. At that time, you know, they were good look for you. That was a W, yeah. At that time, you know, they were telling me to put on some weight. I'm joking. But so I go, you know, there's a little moment of heat, I believe,

is the exact term or whatever. There's a moment in there where I grab his head, and then I grab him with the other hand, and then I'm thrown into the corner, and I'm supposed to do an up and over. A little slippery? Oh, my. I could thrown into the corner, and I'm supposed to do an up and over. A little slippery? Oh, my. I could have never known. It was in front of me. They throw me, and my hands have conditioner all over them, okay,

because his hair or whatever. It keeps it wet. It keeps it back and out of the eyes, I guess, and everything like that. I go run into the corner to do the up and over. My hands slip. I do that thing off of both of my palms. Jeez. That's early in the match, by the way.

I thought there was a chance that I'm hitting face right off the turnbuckle. I have never been more scared in my life when I grabbed that thing. I was like, oh my God. Little things you don't think about, right? Yeah, and then when I jump up onto the top, if you watch that replay, both of my shoes are completely down on the the other side of that if there was any conditioner on those things i'm fucking yeah right you gotta worry about conditioner tanning cocoa butter people in the audience spilling drinks you know where i go inside out around the post

somebody had spilled a drink in the audience one time and i took that and my face was the first thing who's that big boss man yeah, that's where I borrowed that from. Do you watch old film? I do. I mean, I grew up watching it. We talked about it. I mean, that's one of the connections. It's funny because, like, especially sometimes grown men, when you bring up wrestling, you're kind of looking to see who looks at you.

Like, how are they going to judge you that you love wrestling? And so we have that connection of watching all the older cats. Yeah. By the way, people, I watch UFC. It's like, yeah, you're not putting it in the right bucket. That is not... That's a different... Do you like the movie Expendables?

Or are you trying to watch... Come on, let's go. You were a Golden Gloves boxer back in the day. I beat up a lot of people. You're legit, by the way. You're legit. Did you stop boxing? How did you-

No, I loved it. And I miss it too. I miss... and this is- By the way, now is a good time to get back into it. Dude, there's so much money in it right now. That's what I'm saying. Now is a good time. Jake Paul or his brother, yo, hey, you want some?

Come get it. I'm happy to break one of your faces for a nice payday. What are you, 6'7"? Yeah, you'd give up a little weight. Maybe I could fight both of them at the same time. There we go. That's what Floyd was going to do. But yeah, there's something special about boxing

and hitting somebody square in the face hard enough that you feel like they're faced through your glove and then they go down and you know it's over. You don't even have to watch them fall. You're like, this dude's done done his cheek just touched his brain how many fights but uh i think i had 30 something fights god damn that's a lot of fights yeah that's a lot of fights well i mean i fought in the gloves three times i fought in the ringside worlds um you know i had an amazing trainer in kansas city and it was a lot of fun dude i miss it i i

it's there's something about that competition. Well, also the cardio. I'm surprised you haven't just brought it back for the cardio purpose. The workouts are insane. I can't find a good gym here in Tampa

that I would be at on a regular basis. Because I would. I'd go back in a heartbeat. I assume somebody's going to send. That'd be awesome. If you know a good boxing gym in Tampa Bay,

let me know. So I've been thinking about potentially going in the... Because Oculus Box may be the best. Yeah, let me know. So I've been thinking about potentially going into the – because I – Oculus Box may be the best. Yeah, you're not even – I've seen some videos. You put it on easy and – No. That's not true.

No, that's not true. It looks like it's on easy. Okay. Because I got lightning in these hands. You hear me? I got lightning. Why did you have to stand up for that? Now I got to look at you in those shorts.

Yeah. Yeah. That's what I thought. Look at me looking down on you. That's right. You hear me right now? Look at me looking down on you right now. No.

Okay. We need to have an Oculus box off then for sure. Why is that my house? Okay. So they haven't created the physics yet, but they said it's getting there. I like it. But if it does, you're done. I only got one combo and it works on every level with every fighter and it's a knockout every time

And I don't know how it's gonna carry into the real world and maybe I want to test it out But whenever there's zero fear of getting punched in the actual face, you'll let those hands. Oh, yeah for sure I mean for sure. So when you go to these boxing gyms and you haven't done this for a while, I assume but what what? Am I just going in there and just fighting somebody like Like if I was to walk into an actual boxers... It depends on the gym, man. It really does. And that's what you got to be careful with. A lot of gyms from mixed martial arts gyms to boxing gyms, you go in there and sometimes even the new guy,

some guys just want to try to hurt you to prove a point. Well, and also you, right? They're a badass. But I mean, I've had that happen. I was in Arizona when I was playing for the Cardinals. I was training at Lions Den Gym at the time. Scott Peters owned it. He used to play offensive line for the Cardinals a little bit so I was in there one day boxing and Scott wasn't in there and this this guy kept bothering me he's like hey man

you want to spar and I was like ah you know I don't need to spar I'm just here hitting the bag having fun and he kept going and his boxing coach was there and he's like dude just come on just a few rounds we never get big guys let's just go and I said I don't have headgear or a mouthpiece they're like oh we can give you both and I was like all right fine let's let's do it i said but hey this is just sparring we're gonna chill like this isn't you know gonna get out of here and he's like no no no yeah we'll just spar friendly spar and um oh is this you uh oh yeah that's off the gram dude that's a gym in texas that was a random gym we went into and he was like, you want to get in? I hadn't hit mitts in years. But what happened to that guy in Arizona? You beat the fuck

out of that guy? Well, so it's a good story. So what happened, he didn't have headgear on and I was like, do you want to put headgear? He's like, no, I'll be alright. We're just going to go light. I was like, okay, cool. So they ring and we're doing like two minute rounds or something in the first round. I'm just playing with him a little bit, just sparring and he takes

like three killer swings. I was like, hey man, chill. I'm telling you we're just having fun. He's like, I know man, I'm just playing with him a little bit just sparring and he takes like three killer swings I was like hey man chill I'm telling you we're just having fun he's like I know man I'm just going light I'm going light and he takes another big swing at me and so now I'm kind of getting irritated and then second round I was like hey dude like slow it down a little bit because we're just playing like he knows I'm a professional football player at the time and he takes another big swing at me and I split that dude's eye wide open but and it was just a straight right hand it was like i just countered it and i hit him with the straight right and dude it was like it was like you put a firecracker under his eye and it just said like dude blood everywhere it just and it was bad did you follow did you

follow up no because it was kind of like i told you so yeah like i just let him know but i mean he immediately like bleeding all over the mat his coach grabbed him and then uh scott told me he never came back to the gym did you yeah i just don't i mean that's what i was saying it's my gym now but it's like come on like but you get that all over especially me being a big guy dudes want to test you and so sometimes you got to hurt get that all over especially me being a big guy dudes want to test you and so sometimes you got to hurt them so when i was we were talking about this yesterday and it's not boxing and uh by the way i'm thankful i haven't gone into a boxing actual boxing class or whatever because you could do boxer size maybe start start there i'm not doing that shit okay no way all right i've seen i've seen that's you that's got your name all over it. No, no. Dude, listen.

Cow peg! That is what it is. The overhand right is a problem. I just want to let you know. But whenever you are, I don't want to say somebody, but you are somebody. Right? And especially in Arizona, you're a Cardinals player. I assume everybody said, hey, this guy's an offensive lineman for the Cardinals.

Former Golden Gloves boxer. This is just like at bars, too. Big guys. Oh, yeah. People always, especially if they hear you're in the NFL, they're like, uh, those are the ones you just got to choke out.

That way it's quiet. It's quiet. Like when they start stuff, you can't hit a kid in the bar cause you're going to end up getting in trouble or arrested or sued. So you just choke them out quietly in the corner. By the way, you should socially distance yourself from these people.

I do. I don't go to the bars. Have you seen my liquor collection at home? I don't have to leave the house. You do love whiskey. I've been meaning to talk to you about that, dude. Take it easy on your fucking liver, dude. My liver's good, dude.

Everything I drink tastes good. It's fantastic. You have become like this, like, you know, like super adult, which I find interesting. Yeah, it's not fun. You got to be responsible. Are you having trouble there? Yeah, my fucking thing. Because my overhand right side is close.

It shot my earpiece. Do you guys have any questions? Yeah, the boys are very excited. You said you're a Golden Gloves boxer. That's a tournament? Yeah. They do regionals. They do states, regionals, and then nationals.

Okay. So the year I went to nationals was awesome. I think Floyd Mayweather actually paid for the entire event, all the boxers' hotel rooms in a hotel in Grand Rapids, Michigan, and that one was awesome. Going back to what you just said previously, like when you first got into the WWE, I assume guys obviously know about the boxing and that you were in the NFL.

Did you get tested all the time, or is that kind of atmosphere not really like that because you have to earn your stripes anyway? No no it's definitely like that a little bit um not to the same extent it used to be where guys would you know show up in wrestling gyms and get beat up and like you know i think somebody tried to break hogan's leg one like they're they're testing because they want guys who are going to stick around right i get it you don't want to waste your time with someone who's going to come in and cry about it and then a week later leave because then you know it's just one of those things. But I was tested more on like when I came in, I was coming from the NFL, and I was coming into FCW, which was here in Tampa originally before NXT.

And it was all guys basically from – NXT is my – Yeah, that's your world, right? Yeah. And then until Bad Bunny showed up and put this – Okay, okay. Hold on. But I'm just saying. Answer on. But I'm just saying.

Answer the question. I'm just saying that. You don't believe that. Got it. Got it. Answer the question. I'm so sorry. Go ahead.

So it was more of like these guys from the independents and they just instantly hated me because I was getting an opportunity handed to me that they felt like you didn't earn necessarily because they worked in these gymnasiums. And when I was in NXT, that was kind of a character trait for me. I was going, hey, all these internet fans love these independent wrestlers because they work for hot dogs, potato chips. But that's true. Like, these guys that want to become WWE superstars, they're working in local gyms and backyards and parking lots doing shows where they're getting their opportunity to be in a battle royal by setting up the ring, taking the ring down, that kind of thing.

They're paying those dues. They're driving six hours. I used to ride with Tyler Breeze all the time. He was driving six to seven hours across Canada to do these little shows for 20 people. And that was paying the dues for them. Same as the NFL. Guys come from college, come from high school.

You're paying your dues to get to that level. And so I think a lot of guys felt like I hadn't paid any dues and they'd heard that I was making all this money coming in, which was not true. My first contract, I was making like $700 a week when I signed with WWE to go through FCW. And that was like the second tier at that time. So they were irritated.

But, of course, I blew it all out of proportion. I'm like, yeah, I'm getting thousands of dollars a week like i think there was one there was a promo class where because i was getting tired of it i was like dude these guys think that i've never watched wrestling i don't want to be here and of course i'm not going to go hey man look i called wwe i want to be here like i wasn't going to play that game it was a locker room and you kind of got to stay on your ground but i think there was a promo where um you know i made some money playing football so all these other dudes kind of hadn't ever been on that level and so i was like i'm gonna go get 25 grand out of my account bring it to promo class and with a couple watches and put it out on the table and be like yeah dude i'm rich like what's

up and just kind of class by the way yeah so that didn't help my cause and a lot of things but you know i was going to ruffle some feathers. You have to. I think everybody in this business that I think is successful has a little bit of attitude and self-confidence and ego because you have to. You're going to walk out in front of millions of people watching and portray this larger-than-life superhero or, in my case, try to be the most irritating and hated person in the entire world. Like, you have to have an ego to do that. Yeah. I think it's harder than people expect.

You have to have an ego because you're going to get a lot of terrible things said to you. For sure. Yeah. There's going to be a lot of, like, I got some terrible things said to me. Whenever I was just doing kickoff shows from the wrestling community about how there is wrestling bloggers. They're the angriest people in the world. Bro.

For no reason. But wait, when I got a chance, though the angriest people in the world. Bro. For no reason. But wait, when I got a chance, though, you know, to get a microphone, they were like, okay, what do you think you want to talk about? I was like, I got some fucking debts that need to be paid. There is an internet wrestling community that when I came into this kickoff show, by the way,

kickoff show, which is such a, for NXT, which, by the way, it's a 30 minute long show it's a small it's cool it's an awesome opportunity I felt like a dream come true when Michael Cole called me to do that I think I probably called you immediately afterwards like hey this is awesome I'm getting to do this whole thing as soon as I'm working together again yeah we weren't though because I was in a way same umbrella same umbrella but the first time I sat down at that kickoff show thing, the amount of hate I got.

Jim Ross, I think, buried me at one point. All the bloggers were like, this guy doesn't even talk about wrestling. He gets a chance to be in this whole thing. And I'm like, no, motherfuckers. Dude, they're so angry for no reason. Yeah, exactly. So angry. So then when I got a chance to talk.

Probably because they live in their mother's basement. That's why they're angry. Classic. We should do like, what is it, Jay and Silent Bob, where we get the paper and be like, are you Jack746374 and did you say this? And then I'll punch him in the face, you kick him, and we go to the next house. It'd be a long list, though. Now, to be clear, though, with those people, I am now over with them.

Oh! You sold out. No, no, no, no. No, no. They haven't come around on you yet, I don't think. I like to keep it that way. Hour two. We'll be on the other side of this break.

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That's right. He's thrown touchdowns in the NFL as well. Holy shit. Yeah, absolute animal stud Super Bowl champion from Kent State University. Ladies and gentlemen, Julian Edelman. Yeah! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! from Kent State University, ladies and gentlemen, Julian Edelman. Yeah! Woo!

Woo! Woo! Can you hear me? Yeah, can you hear me? Yeah, my earbuds aren't working. Good to see you guys. What's that all about? Why aren't your earbuds working?

I don't know. Is it too static-y? No, you sound good. You look really fucking cool right now, too, to be honest with you. What's up? What have you been up to, man to man are you in an art gallery or is that your house No, I'm at Coast Studios our Coast productions office at Coby cart in Miami is Office so we got a little headquarters out here. We got headquarters there, you know, just trying to Collaborate and Make some cool things, bubs.

What have you been up to? Okay, so you made that documentary. It was your production company, which I should know. Is it J-E-L-E-T? Coast Productions. Okay, so that documentary. This is our South Beach location in Woodwood at Coby Carp's offices. He gave us a little area that we use.

Wow. Hey, you're doing big business. So this is not easy, obviously, as an NFL player, especially for the Patriots with the Patriot way at the level you were playing. That documentary that I feel like a lot of us got the chance to actually learn who you were, like as a fan of your game and watching you play, the documentary to learn your story, your family, everything like that with your daughter i mean it was it was incredible and you created that you sold that so when you retire and say i want to continue to create stuff for blah

blah blah i assume uh when you had success with that documentary did that help you lead to think like okay i will be able to have a successful post career did you know that all along uh i mean burger time was awesome so we it all started with me and my partner asaf swissa who uh we just started creating stupid digital content like to give ourself a voice because as you guys know like in new england there's a certain standard and way you speak and talk with the media. Everything's about football. So you really can't show your personality in any way. And we started making these YouTube videos and then we started transferring everything to Instagram, Twitter.

And we were the first generation as you are in the locker room that basically had social media so it became an outlet for us to play with our creativity. I can't say. Couldn't see you. You were only single. Well, we got full screen on you because you're handsome.

You're talking about how you're a visionary basically. I mean, it deserves a full screen there, Jules. You know what I mean? You're nuts, bro. Your career. You are so fucking good. And I remember I was on NFL Network, and they asked me. This was a long time ago.

It was maybe six years ago. I don't know what year it would have been for you. Maybe seven years ago. I don't remember exactly. And they asked me to rank at like 3 a.m. their time because they were running a morning show, East Coast time, in L.A. So that was absurd that they were doing that. But it was like 3 a.m. their time because they were running a morning show East Coast time in L.A. So that was absurd that they were doing that. But it was like 3 a.m. L.A. time.

I was doing a show for NFL Network and they were like, can you please rank the top five hardest returners you face? So I did my list or whatever. And at that time, Tyreek Hill was not returning the ball and I had not kicked Antonio Brown yet, I think, or maybe Antonio Brown was on there. But you were a nightmare. You were an absolute nightmare. It made no sense. You had no fear. You were shifty. You had good vision. And it felt like every play was like your last play.

Is that like, whenever you were returning, you got one on me, which is bullshit. And you almost got two on me, uh, which is still bullshit, but, uh, I had a pretty good time. You keep on talking about like, you hit me hard on that. I did. I jumped into you. No, I didn't. I jumped into you. No, I didn't. I had nowhere to go. I spine busted.

It was a spine buster. I did a spine buster on you. And by the way, if you do watch the video, I've never said I hit you hard, by the way. Everybody else does. I actually just kind of fall. Actually, it's a very unathletic looking move or whatever, but everybody puts it over, so I'm not going to stop them.

But with that being said, the earning your way, did you feel like returner was where you're going to get on the field and then there's that video now with wes welker and bill going like way to compete basically is that like is that kind of bill told you early like hey you're gonna have to you can earn it you can be whatever you want here is that just kind of how you always been no i think it honestly was when i got drafted in 2009 we had joey galloway randy moss west walker they traded for great lewis they had a special teams captain uh matt slater so like you either had to be really good at one thing or you had to be very versatile so there's a saying around New England always everyone always says the more you can do like if there's someone needs a

water hey man the more you can do you know hey all these things cleaning the room doing this doing that because it's honestly making yourself more valuable there's only 53 spots on the team and they only dressed 46 as you know so I'm still in math in my head well if I come back up the holder 46, as you know, so I was doing math in my head. Well, if I can back up the holder, I can be, you know, return kicks, return punts, cover kicks, you know, do as much as I can. And also be that gadget guy on offense, whatever, just to get the ball in his hands early in my career. Then I was backing up a bunch of people, making myself valuable. So I was just thinking like that. You know, the more I could do, I love playing ball. I i could do i love playing ball i just wanted to make the team i just wanted to make the team and

you know that's what it was when you retire which by the way was really cool really cool i mean the amount of pressure the amount of pressure on you to deliver that monologue by the way after the entire you know what i mean like as i was watching the video i was like oh shit okay here we go like this is gonna have to be a this is to have to be in with the emotions of it all. Like I thought it was a really cool thing, but then Bill Belichick releases a statement about you retiring and how he feels about you. Is that something you knew he felt like that way about you?

Or when you read that, was that something that was like, man, that's really fucking cool to hear. But he basically said you epitomize a football player. You epitomize the New England Patriots. And is that something you knew your entire time there? Or is it like a hate me now, love me later type thing situation with Bill? For me personally with Bill, you know, he gives tough love. You don't, you know, he's not going to compliment you always.

He expects you to do your job and do your job consistently. That's what it is. That's how it is there. In retrospect, if you didn't do something right, he would let you know that for sure. And everyone was on the table for that. It didn't matter who you were, how much money you made. You knew if you screwed up that you were going to be on bill tube or low lights or whatever it is. And it could be in practice it could be in

training camp it could be in a game i mean that's just his personality and you know i i loved it because that's what that's i had a father my father and our relationship was very similar similar you know we were very like you know very vocal vocal and very, like, nothing was ever good enough. And, you know, this is why you're not going to make it type stuff. And then I get drafted to New England, and it was kind of like, you know, there's an expectation, like, we're not going to slap you on the butt for doing your job. That's what you're supposed to do.

So you learn quick. And, you know, to hear him say that that meant a lot you know because ultimately coach Belichick gave me my opportunity him and Mr. Craft and everyone who's in that scouting department or whatever um you know and I'm a loyal guy I'll love him to the day he dies for that because he believed in me um you know from when I was a nobody he had the vision for me and you know, I appreciate him for that So he can you can mother can you swear you can swear on this? All right. Yeah. Yeah, this ain't no mickey mouse shit All right, i'm just making sure well, you know, he can mother fuck you. Yes, but I appreciate it

You know, I would be terrified my first my first few years I would sit in there and Like he would say kind of a witty joke getting on someone Like it's very like low sense of humor type of stuff and dry. But like I would be too scared to like, can I laugh? You know? You get, you know, after you've been there for six, seven years and then you're going on being the older guy, the vet. You know, now I'm sitting back just like getting a doctorate in how to get the best out of your people like oh man dang oh oh he's about to get you know what i mean so yeah that's just his way and i you know he evolves and he changes he treats different players

differently but he also everyone's on the table now and i think that motivation right like however you can motivate and you just said sit back and watch him get the best out of his people that's so interesting because i think you have to coach to the player like what is what makes this player the absolute best they could be and that's why i think whenever he came out and was talking about cam last year the way he was talking about cam especially after all the tom stuff happened and all the stories and he who knows what's real who knows what is you probably do. But like,

but I'm talking like as a public, as a, yeah, you, I'm, I would never ask you, but like, what?

Hey, Johnny Foxborough. No, no, listen, but I'm not gonna like, you don't have to tell us that, but from the outside,

who knows what's true, what isn't true. But whenever you're talking about two, like Tom Brady, Bill Belichick, you're talking about like the two greatest of all time and there's at 20 years together there's gonna be something that potentially happens that's just it's natural it happens in business it's gonna happen in football that whole

thing but then whenever he started talking about cam and the way he was talking like everybody loves cam he lights up a room is this and everybody's like this isn't what bill does do you think that is a fair assessment like Like Bill was acting different last year towards Cam or maybe towards other people that weren't Tom? Or do you think that's just how Bill was like, okay, this is potentially how I get the best Cam possible. Is that kind of how it's always been? I mean, I think that's a loaded question

because everyone knew those things about Tom. You know, Cam was kind of coming in and, you know, it's a way to kind of, you know, this is going to be our guy. So we got to ride with him. We got to get our guy right. And, you know, everything he said about Cam was completely true. The guy works his tail off. You know, it was just, I mean, it was a tough situation to go into.

But bringing it back to the other side with Tom, I mean, Tom earned those things and you saw that for 20 years. So like, you know, like you said, it's like a marriage, a 20 year marriage. It's a long time. That's a long time. And you know, they're both the goats, the goat, one's goat called a coach and one's the goat quarterback. So like, you know, that's, that's what it is. Sometimes just moving on is always the best for everyone. And it doesn't have to be friction related. It's just time, you know, time.

It's like, don't you guys have, like, an ex-girlfriend that you love to death? You know, she wanted to get married, but you didn't know where you were at in your life. But, like, you guys fought. You didn't fight too much. But, like, it's just one of those things, like, hey, maybe it's best that we're friends and we move on, you know? Yeah, right person, wrong time. Right person, timing.

Timing, yeah, absolutely. Timing, I mean, and when you talk about it, it's like full circle. You know, it just comes all the way back around. Full circle. Just like time. I mean, 15 years down the road, they'll probably drink a beer and laugh at everything. I hope so. Good time, that, that, this. You know, like, probably drink a beer and laugh at everything. I hope so.

It's just how it goes, man. They're both very competitive people. You do believe, though, that Tom and Bill, and I believe this as well, just from the outside, not looking in. You know this situation a lot better. I assume there's going to be a day where they are going to sit down together. Maybe it'll be done by coast productions it'll be an entire it'll be an entire situation where they go back and relive and it'll be have to be in partnership with nfl films especially with how much it seems like your building was miked up and had cameras in there and only some shit got out

every once in a while which is insane i don't know how that worked in there but that would be you think there's a moment where those two are going to be like good friends again huh i mean there's always going to be a respect you know these guys work for each other they know each they know each other inside and out you know i can't speak for them like first for me oh they're going to do this they're going to do that i don't know but you know like i know that they both love each other deep down in their hearts but you know it's sometimes time's time we're talking to julian edmund super bowl mvp three-time super bowl champ just retired recently or did he so now immediately upon you retiring and you tweeted me i ain't going anywhere bubs is what you said to me

after the draft-a-thon situation with you and tom where tom made a joke in front of kevin hart and numerous others deon sanders Kay Adams, where he said, hey, listen, Julian's just scared to tell Bill he's coming down to Tampa. Okay, we've all been there. And obviously you and Tom are very close friends. We've learned that over the years. So that obviously caused some waves. It's like, wait a second, Gronkowski, he had a hurt back.

He retires. He gets into a CBD company. He's a white tiger. He's doing all these other things. And Tom goes down to Tampa. He's like body feels good again you know and then uh obviously antonio brown gets signed to tampa bay who's one of tom's guys everybody assumes and gronk just came out again you know maybe he'll be healthy again he'll come down there everybody assumed that that's what you were going to do so when tom makes that joke everybody runs with it including us with your

injury your mindset and you just said you're loyal to Bill because Bill gave you your opportunity when you were a nobody. Do you see your future at all playing again? I appreciate Tom. He's the hand that fed me for a long time. I'll do. Oh, my God. I'll do.

That'd be awesome. I'm done, boys. I signed with Inside the NFL. That's my new team. So I look forward to contributing and doing everything I can for that new team that I am going to be performing with. So it's one of those things, like I've said, if I have to work, if I have to put this much time and energy in everything I do, which that's what I do. And I usually get this level of, you know, production out of your body output.

I know, I know the output, you know what I mean? So that's one of those things where if I'm going to go here and I'm only getting here, you're starting at 78%. You already lose a 15% just through the craziness of the season. You know what I mean? You know how it goes. 63. I don't want to put that product out there. That's not me.

I respect the game too much. I don't want to look like an old guy that doesn't – because I know the level I played at for a long time. And it's just one of those things where I don't feel like doing that. You know, and it's going to be a hassle. I can't practice every day. Me, I'm a practice player. You gain your confidence through practice.

At least I always did. Me too. I practice hard. Always. I'm fighting. We're over here battling. We're talking shit in practice all day long if i can't do that and i'll feel those alpha vibes and one-on-ones and drills and i'm starting to

look like i'm not the you know the guy that can do it like the baddest then i'm out i can't do it see that's very interesting because you know i have a lot of respect for you and a lot of the way guys view things right there's some guys that run until the wheels literally fall off and they don't even know that they're not even anywhere near what they were and they're potentially ruining people's long-lasting thoughts about how they're playing now I'm not saying anybody thought that about you but when I was thinking about retiring I was like do I want to put this much amount of work in to be this good in this for more time? Knowing that there's surgeries that are going to come because my knees aren't going to be able to keep up. And if I want to be, you know, in the NFL, I should be invested in the NFL.

And if I want to be I want people to think I'm fucking great, too. So I want people to think like, oh, I got bummed. The amount of time that I have to invest in that, I'm past the point of that. Like I am past the point of wanting to do that. I'm very thankful for my time, but I am past my entire life revolving around kicking a ball on fourth down. I'm thankful. I'm appreciative.

I still love the game. It's nice to hear that you potentially had that thought too, where it's like, listen, I don't think you lost it by the way. You might be too hard on yourself. I assume you'd be able to still do what you got to do, but you're,

it's not that I can do, I can, I can go get open on one leg and i'm not just saying that to be like that's how i call i've seen every i've seen everything i've seen i know what they're doing before they're doing it i'm not just saying that to say that but like it's gonna be a lot harder you know what i mean and these guys are smart you got film on you and you know what i mean it's just it's a whole nother level that you have to be in and and you got to be in a zone like for maybe five plays a game if you're going to start

being this utility guy or this guy that comes in on third down and like I need to be in I need to be banging my head I need to go block the force I need to go hit a linebacker I need to get smacked over the middle because that stuff like got me going you know what i mean that that's what that's what made me like i get fired up and let's go play let's go dance like let's do this we're gonna be here all night and if i can't do it all night i gotta hang them up what is it and by the way incredibly honorable i want to let you know that's like g shit right there what you just said very very they're very no it's real the the thought of like the five plays or like the gadget guy if you were to go in because you can't get open on one leg so you would think third downs red zones would

be a massive deal i was a fellowship these guys are good i was just no no no no listen hey we've all i want to hold on julian julian hold on, Julian, Julian, hold on. I will say this. I will say this. The offense that you guys ran up there for you, and I think Wes might have started it and maybe Tom, I don't know how they all came. Who's that? Troy Brown started it. Where you guys read, like you are literally, it's like basketball almost. And Tom knows like, okay, if you beat or wherever you're supposed to juke the person.

Griff Whalen on our team played you for the week you're supposed to juke the person griff whalen on our team played you for the week we're supposed to play new england he had 7 000 yards okay so i was like i was like why why why don't we have griff do this yeah why don't we have griff do this but also griff was only able to do it because he was just mimicking exactly what you were doing right in in the the whole thing you would shake people so you're saying you could get open with one foot especially with your football iq i don't think that's embellishing too much or ridiculous and i know it was a joke but with the thought of how you play with tom third downs red zone which is where is the game is paramount people say like okay at one point is it a hairline fracture you have in your knee? Like, is it not curable? Because everybody –

No, I'm just – I mean, I'm just like most guys that have knee problems. I'm just bone on bone. Yeah. And also, it's just my medial side is like just worn out because I tore a PCO years ago, and you don't repair those, so then you get this lag in your tib to fib, and then I'm bow-legged, you're just going over years years years of grinding and that bad boys you know then last year I popped like my the root of my cartilage so the whole medial side just kind of like all right we run all

right let's go in the pool like I hated I hated that. I don't like that. Hey, hell of a run you had there. Hey, those knees had a hell of a run. Because, I don't know if, until that point right there, I don't know if we celebrated your entire career, because I think everybody just assumed, okay, he's going to go down to Tampa because Tom's playing until he's fucking 50. At some point, you're going to feel there.

But I respect the mindset of flipping the switch. I am in South Beach. The joints do feel pretty nice out here. Hey, the humidity too? How hot it is? I mean, we're over here. You know, the... Nah, we'll see.

Yeah, you don't. You see, you just started to talk there. I mean, you know, wait until the knee fall gets right. I mean, Foxborough is too big for a t-shirt. Yeah. Foxborough forever. We just stay there. That's where we live. Oh, but the sequel'll leave Foxborough. It's too big for a t-shirt. Yeah. Foxborough forever. We just stay there.

That's where we live. Oh, but the sequel to the Foxborough forever shirt, the maybe Champa Bay. Oh, no. Look at how fucking handsome you are, by the way, dude. That's unbelievable. It's good lighting. It's good lighting.

Yeah, but you take advantage of the merch game better than any player in the history of the NFL. You are an incredible businessman. I think you're going to have massive success obviously in this productions uh which you already have inside the nfl brandon marshall played and hosted that show so you could do both but we won't follow up with that because your focus is to make that show great and your shit which we appreciate congrats on a hell of a career now appreciate you boys hey we have two questions two questions two more questions boston connor here

massive patriots fan one of your biggest fans he if i if i didn't let him talk to you he would uh probably hold this against me for the rest of my life so connor what do you have thank you pat i probably would uh jules let me just say it's an honor to be talking to a first ballot hall of famer uh that boy jules were there ever was there ever a time uh the building where guys would be trying to sneak out before Bill left because they didn't want to be seen leaving while he was still working and also at Foxboro forever? Love you. Thank you.

First off, thank you, bro. I've heard you, and you've been always a huge, loyal, pat-ation guy. So it's an honor to meet you. You guys have been blowing up and big fan of the show. First off, second off, everyone, everyone didn't, never wanted to be seen by Bill or Bears, his little guy. It's like the little number two. It's like his whatever, but never wanted to be seen by him.

Everyone's like looking, you know, running out. I mean, it was, you know, because he's there. He lives there. Like those coaches live there. I mean, it is. I thought, you know, maybe early in my career I'd get into coaching. You know, I love football. You know, and then I started watching these guys.

They got blow-up mattresses in their office. I put in 14 hours a day. These guys are here for 20. Like, their children and their family come into the parking lot while we're leaving work to say hi before they go to bed. Like, it is crazy. And if I go to another place and I know, like, mentally that is doing it like that, I can, I have to do that. So it's ruined me. I'll never be able to coach because I want to have a life.

So everyone never wanted to be seen by coach when you left. Speaker 1 1 Speaker 2 Hey, Bruce Arians, listen to this shit. Bruce Arians, the first time he retired, you know, he retired? He said in his press conference that he woke up one morning and his wife said Jake, his son, had turned 40. And he said, 40? He said that in the press conference. It was like 40 fucking years.

Coaches are a whole different human. I mean, that is... It's gnarly, man. But that's what bill is man that's what they used to do back in like the 70s when he started with the baltimore colts and like he like loves it man it's it's it's pretty it's pretty impressive to see firsthand like the dedication and like the discipline and the lack of like complacency that comes in when you watch him. He'll be on his treadmill.

He'll be on his treadmill at 10 at night with the film, with the playbook, just walking. Ernie will come up. What do you think about this? He'll bounce back and Ernie will get on it. These dudes are... It's chess.

It's chess. I'm a checkers with those guys. Well, I'm all about getting Kinged as quick as possible. So I'm a checkers guy. The, um, uh, before we let you go and I can't, you've been very cool with your time here. So I appreciate that. Is there pressure on you? Um, anytime a, you know, anti-Semitic situation pops up or right now with what's going on with israel and palestine like do you feel pressure or pride that you get a chance to kind of put voice behind that because i thought you have done an incredible job like piecing things together for people who

maybe have no clue about what's going on is that something that you have you know kind of learned that you can be a pretty cool voice for and everything like that? Without a doubt. It's definitely a pride and a responsibility, you know, you know, for me and my culture, you know, it's, it's, it's a sense of culture. That's, that's what the Jewish people are about. And if something's going to happen and go towards our people, you know, I have to use my platform to get to it. You know, that's, that that's just like you said it's a pridefulness that you have you know but also doing it in a manner where you know it creates a conversation not just going out and canceling someone not just going out and saying screw this and no no no because I'm super anti that everyone makes stupid mistakes all the time all

the time you know why don't we just open up this conversation let's talk about it hey you you said something i know you probably didn't know what you said uh you heard a lot of people's feelings that are you know part of my community let why don't we why don't we talk about this because let's get them to feel like you didn't know what you said you know let's educate each other what are you didn't know what you said. Let's educate each other. What are you? What's your background? Teach me about you. That's what I always grew up around, and that's just how I was brought up.

That's how I feel about all that. Well, that's incredibly dope. I assume you're going to make a lot of probably riveting, insightful, and educational documentaries through a lot of these situations, whatever your brain comes... Yeah, they need to get you into that Fast and Furious movie. You need to be...

Yeah, go ahead. Ideas. Okay, here we go. Nah, it was underground. I got it better. I got it better. I got it better. I got it. Hold on Like pro day And then all of a sudden he punts and he gets a full scholarship field West Virginia and then all of a sudden I

Mean, I don't know. I just thought of that right now. Hold on. Let's do brainstorm. Let's do brainstorm So whenever you talk about that particular story, I think like instead of a casino or something, like it should be like the basement of an Italian restaurant. You know what I mean? Like you could go into like a seedy basement of an Italian restaurant, goes down in my, maybe he kicks like 65 yard field goal, misses a 70 yard field goal wide right.

And then just goes to West Virginia. Then he gets the NFL and he punts to this quarterback from Kent State, and he shakes the shit out of him on primetime television. That's how that thing ends, ladies and gentlemen. The man who ends that story in a sad way. Absolute stud, Julian Edelman. Thank you. Can't thank you enough for choosing to listen to the show.

The fact that you spend your days with us we are eternally grateful for it there's a lot of other shit that can penetrate your ear holes the fact you allow us to do so we are forever thankful hashtag end of pod squad ty's going through still giving away money we can't thank you enough for listening this long once again if you enjoyed this tell somebody about it if not just act like it never fucking happened. Ty, please play some independent music and propel these people into a beautiful Thursday night. Big show tomorrow. Hey, big show.

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