The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 420 - Feel Good Friday with Darius Butler, Lonie Paxton, and AJ Hawk

Episode Date: May 21, 2021

Todays episode Pat and the boys are joined in studio by former NFL DB and Pats teammate Darius Butler. The boys are down in Tampa as Pat prepares for another episode of Friday Night Smack DAHN on Fox.... The show kicks off with Pat reacting directly to the news of Time Tebow’s Jacksonville Jaguars jersey sales being through the roof. Darius Butler and the boys also weigh in on this along side the rest of the latest NFL rumors. Pat then welcomes on Super Bowl Champion with the New England Patriots Lonie Paxton (34:33.090-57:47.178) to share stories while playing for the Patriots and more. Pat finishes off the show with AJ, Darius, and the boys as they send you off into a great weekend.Make sure you subscribe to YouTube.com/thepatmcafeeshow and listen to us live everyday on Mad Dog Sports Radio.We appreciate  you all for listening, come laugh with us, cheers.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Transcript
Discussion (0)
Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello, it is Friday, May 21st, 2021, and you're listening to the Pat McAfee Show. Pat had to get ready to run over to SmackDown tonight, live on Fox at 8 p.m. Eastern Standard Time. We still got a great show for you today down from the FanDuel Beach House in Tampa Bay. down from the FanDuel Beach House in Tampa Bay. D-Butt's in studio with us. Former Patriots legend Lonnie Paxton joins the show. AJ Hawk, all the boys from Indy. It's a fun one.
Starting point is 00:00:38 If you like the show, let somebody know, you know. Let's do a little guerrilla marketing. If you don't like the show, just act like it never happened. We'll move along and that's that. All right, let's get into it. Big show today. Hey, feel good Friday down here at the Fandle Beach House in beautiful Champa Bay, Florida. Now, we did find out the official shelf life of the FanDuel Beach House down here in Tampa Bay. It was announced this morning officially. Although there were rumors and rumblings around the internet, July 16th, the WWE, more specifically, Friday Night SmackDown, will be live in Houston, Texas for the first event with a full audience I do believe there.
Starting point is 00:01:28 Actually, I don't know what the full whatever it is. I assume Texas it is. I saw full. You saw full? Yeah, I saw full. So we did officially, we beat COVID. We did it!
Starting point is 00:01:43 But in doing so, we will have to say bye to this place in the future of me in smackdown is one that we will have to figure out here this is going to be very interesting did not know when this day would be coming in july 16th did know that it was coming uh we'll kind of see how that whole thing goes i've been enjoying the hell out of it been very lucky to be down here been very lucky to be a part of smackdown every friday night on fox at 8 p.m eastern standard time and to be honest with you one of my favorite parts of this whole thing is when you come down to florida we get a chance to see this dude yeah ladies and gentlemen thirst trap king darius it's not that hot outside yeah darius Darius showed up in full sweats. Okay, this is two weeks, three weeks in a row now.
Starting point is 00:02:26 It is, your Siri told you, it is 83 degrees out there. 82. 7,000% humidity. Feels like 102. And this dude, these Florida people, I don't understand it. He came in sweats and a full long sleeve. I don't know how you're doing it. I don't know if I'll ever be able to do that.
Starting point is 00:02:42 I'm sweating my ass off. I got this thing set at 62 because i need this air conditioning to combat the air that's coming into the house this is just normal for you guys and i feel like the summer it's only about to get even more ridiculous huh yeah so now summertime this shit gonna change in the summertime but right now it's cool what are you doing is this like getting yourself ready like you know how guys train and um like mile high and stuff like that to get their body ready for that stuff? And they lay in those things. What are those things?
Starting point is 00:03:08 Those sleeping things? Those hyperbaric chambers? You know, to get themselves prepared and sometimes work out in there. So have you just your entire life down here gotten yourself prepared for summer by acting as if everything else is cold? Because it's allegedly supposed to get up to like 99 down here in a couple weeks maybe even a hundred and it's going to be four thousand percent humidity i might actually i might fucking croak yeah i might actually die down here i don't know how you guys does everybody just go inside for three months is that what florida is no we're outside that's what it is you grow up uh it's
Starting point is 00:03:40 summer shit all year round really so you just get to it. Is that why you guys are so fast? Exactly. Always outside, man. Could play year round. Okay, so let's talk about speed now. All right? And I don't know where these dudes are from, but Bleacher Report somehow put together.
Starting point is 00:03:55 By the way, good move by Bleacher. Yeah. This is a very good idea. I wish it would have been live. Okay? Heard about it later. Wish it would have been live. Would have been dope.
Starting point is 00:04:04 But I assume the guys that were in it were like, something could go wrong. So let's not go live. Because if somebody gets hurt away from the facility with everything going on, I don't know if that's why they made that decision. It could be, though. But that seems like a smart decision. Yeah. They're cutting promos on the field right before they did it.
Starting point is 00:04:18 Before or after? Before, I believe. Are you sure? Because they were saying, I believe in rugs. He was like, I'm going to beat everybody. This is like classic reality TV where you're like, oh, I'm so nervous right now And then they go into a court and they're sitting there What's going through I'm about to poop right now. They might have been over already. They have something like this
Starting point is 00:04:35 If that couple years ago like 40 years something gold so the probe in some bullshit So the Pro Bowl was this Bleacher Report or was this a guy who was but oh Mark? He's going bro the Pro Bowl mark. He won it. Yeah, I think, was this Bleacher Report? No, I forgot who it was. Dude. Mark, he's good one. Bro, the Pro Bowl. Mark, he won it. Yeah, he won it. I think he was talking about getting his money. Do you remember the Pro Bowl?
Starting point is 00:04:51 Pro Bowl way back in the day. Oh, yeah. Used to have the quarterback challenge, okay? And I want to let you know, I'm no hero. No. Uh-uh. I'm no hero, okay? But the quarterback challenge, if it came back today and was able to come back today, would be awesome.
Starting point is 00:05:08 I got fucking records, too. You can go back and check. A couple years ago, I seen the quarterback challenge for the first time, and I was like, need this to happen somehow. I am in some conversations with some people. You know what I mean? Oh, yeah. And a lot of these conversations I'm with are with people who potentially, you know, could potentially. And they say, like, what are some ideas you think of things that would be cool?
Starting point is 00:05:28 And one of the first things that's always pitched is like, what I need you to do is go on fucking YouTube. Go back to like 1921 or whatever that is. It looks like it's in 510 HD or whatever. Look at the quarterback challenge. It would be awesome. To do so, though, you're going to have to give up a real real award to the winner right like i know quarterbacks are rich but if you're throwing for i don't know five million dollars you have it yeah the people i'm talking to have five million dollars but also let's give five million dollars to charity as well like so
Starting point is 00:05:56 you know and actually get because i think if you put up an actual prize everybody expects these super rich guys just do things like pro bono because they're super rich it's like okay i i respect that i appreciate that they go to a lot of golf scrambles they do a lot of charity shit but if you're gonna get them to compete like if you actually have like a uh like hey there's a chance i'm gonna make some real fucking money on this thing like i think that would potentially get the guys that like the dunk contest if the dunk contest did something like that i think you would get the guys that everybody wants in there. But back whenever they used to do the 40, the quarterback challenge, everything like that, that was must.
Starting point is 00:06:29 I don't know. I might have been small, so maybe it was just like I was younger. But now that I'm even watching it as an old, that shit needs to happen more often because guys compete all the time. Yeah. And it's great content, don't you think? No, that would be dope, man. Like you said, the quarterback challenge,
Starting point is 00:06:44 I want to see who can throw it the furthest yes josh allen pat mahomes stafford and see who can actually do it um because they had that obviously part of the challenge the moving targets that should definitely be dope well the bleacher report putting together this 40-yard dash an incredible move by the way i mean this is very very it's not easy to get these guys in it either i mean mccall hardman is the second fastest guy on his team yeah right and i bet you he's a little bit frustrated about how people say what i just said all the time because mccall is like uh is it miko or mickle miko anybody know i think it's mr hardman i thought it was miko on the broadcast at least they do. So Mecole is tired. Like everybody's saying, like, oh, you're not even the fastest guy on your team.
Starting point is 00:07:25 It's like, okay. So he races against Henry Ruggs. Gas. Okay. Saw that last year whenever he was healthy. He was a game changer. Devin White, linebacker. Okay.
Starting point is 00:07:38 This makes no sense here. I don't know how he ended up in it. Thank God he was. And then Justin Jefferson, wide receiver obviously out of LSU. Everybody remembers Justin Jefferson, not only because last year he was Offensive Rookie of the Year or whatever, and he was talked about as maybe being a top five player or whatever and the gritty and everything that he kind of launched.
Starting point is 00:07:59 But also the Minnesota Vikings front office laughed in the Philadelphia Eagles' face when they didn't draft him and they got a chance to actually draft him. He's going on to be a superstar. Wide receiver, young wide receiver. You assume he's going to have the gas here. He's going to have the jets. He's going to be like Rocket from down there in where? Mississippi or Alabama.
Starting point is 00:08:17 Mecole Hardman, 4-2-2, wins the race. Fucking jets. Yeah. That's flying. Why is everybody, like I think it's gotten desensitized almost because there's more four twos now. Four two is. Unbelievable. Absurd at this point.
Starting point is 00:08:31 That is flying. It's flying. We don't know if it's hand time, laser time. We assume it's on a camera. So somebody at home will probably correct them. We got to see this footage, man.
Starting point is 00:08:40 Are we going to assume they'll release it? And by the way, when they release it, will this story be dead already? I think so. Let's go to Henry rugs. And by the way, when they release it, will this story be dead already? I think so. Let's go to Henry Ruggs, 4-2-6. Devin White, 4-3-7. Justin Jefferson came in last.
Starting point is 00:08:53 Devin White, the linebacker, came in third at 4-3-7. Justin Jefferson, 4-5. Okay? Still incredibly fast. Unbelievably fast. Very successful in the NFL fast. Did they run next to each other?
Starting point is 00:09:07 Did they run one at a time? I guess that's why we have to wait and see the entire thing. Darius, have you ever been in any workouts where anything awesome
Starting point is 00:09:14 has happened competition wise whether it's in the facility or outside of the facility? Have you seen anybody do anything incredible? Probably box jumps. I've seen people you know, compete. Like compete like okay you keep stacking
Starting point is 00:09:27 until somebody stops me so actually the first year I got to Carolina who did the incredible thing well it's funny because they were asking
Starting point is 00:09:43 it was actually me. Me, Captain Munderland, Jonathan Stewart, who was freakishly explosive. We just kept stacking them. It might be on YouTube, actually. I might have to find that. Yeah, great content. You should be finding that. Throwback Thursday is waiting.
Starting point is 00:10:00 Hey, Throwback Thursday is waiting for that. I got you next week. Because your Throwback thursday yesterday and i would like to put a little bow on this i love this happening yeah yeah it's awesome we hope nobody gets hurt especially these guys and if you're running that fast you're incredibly explosive you're incredibly twitchy by the way so you could potentially get hurt when you're wide open like this the fact that they didn't get hurt i assume it's awesome content i hope this happens more often uh congrats me, Cole, getting that win.
Starting point is 00:10:26 Congrats to me, Cole. Congrats to me, Cole. Stick to it. Your throwback Thursday yesterday was awesome, man. That was a good time. Darius posted a video of the plane. I have told stories of the plane after games and after wins and how good of a time it is now.
Starting point is 00:10:43 The second regime didn't handle the plane the same way the first regime did it was a bit different but times had changed but still the point remains those plane rides after a win are awesome because for a lot of guys you know that's potentially their only time where they're not with uh you know their kids they're not with whatever they're not at work they're not watching film like that is like an actual like it's a club in the sky for some people and i'm not saying nightclub but also maybe they're just like maybe it's a a country a spot like a song like a getaway it's like the only time i think like a lot of guys get to relax almost am i misreading that you think no sure could be a casino could be a casino a lot of things that are playing man and like you said after after win obviously is
Starting point is 00:11:23 it's great but shit even after a loss, honestly. Yes. Being real, if you're an older guy, it's just part of it. You get, what, eight of them a year? Probably nine now with a different season. You know, that's a part of the game you miss, you know, the road trips. For us, especially during those times, we had some hellified dice games in the hotels. Like, we looked forward to those.
Starting point is 00:11:45 So, dinners, just different things on the road in different cities. So this was just a little peek into what that looks like. You guys in that dice game, some legendary tales had been. You guys. Excuse me. I was not a part of the ones you're referring to. I was not a part of it. Now there were.
Starting point is 00:12:04 Okay, listen. I was. Hand up. was on a part of it. Now, there were... Okay, listen. I was... Hand up. Was a part of something. But there were some stories that have lingered out of some of the games you guys have had that were just absolutely legendary. And Ahmad Bradshaw commented on the post yesterday. He, as soon as he came to our team, it was like, oh, this is a guy.
Starting point is 00:12:20 Like, you know what I mean? Like, oh, this is a guy. He had a neck issue, so nobody knew how healthy he was going to be. But you're talking about coming into a locker room and just immediately being a guy. Eric Walden, same exact thing. D but whenever you came in, same exact thing.
Starting point is 00:12:34 It was like we had a group. And I think, you know what? I, I didn't, I guess I don't really give the guy enough credit ever because of our personal relationship. But Gregson did get some guys in there and his scouting department did get guys in there where our locker room became like a tight one not easy to do by the way that is something that you have
Starting point is 00:12:52 to think about when you're building a team now there's always going to be some people that don't like it or whatever but this video at this point is so fucking awesome just because even like the flight attendants like you know like i forgot about i forgot about the flight and then there was like colt anderson's in there in this minute and like there's guys that i see in it and then mike adams obviously cuts a promo let's run this thing let's run this thing what the fuck are you talking about okay pause all right so ty hilton immediately uh let's assume ty had a pretty nice night there. We looked back on this thing. This was in Denver, right? And he had a pretty good game.
Starting point is 00:13:30 What did he have? I think he had like five for 80. Something real damn good. Big time plays there. I would assume they were divisional round, playoff game on the road. Moving the chains. Against Peyton. For him, against Chris Harris, Tlaib, Roby, Von. They had some dogs out there. T. Against Peyton. For him, against that, I had Chris Harris, Tlaib, Roby, you know, Vaughn.
Starting point is 00:13:48 They had some dogs out there. TJ Ward. Yeah, I did see him comment to this video as well. That was basically like, SOTY! And by the way, I think releasing this at this time, this far along, the right time to release this thing. Like these types of clips getting posted immediately after the game could cause massive problems for some people for sure like for instance talib or tj ward yeah i would assume at this point though both of them like yeah fuck this
Starting point is 00:14:15 you know at this point it's kind of bygones be bygones then and let's break this down back of the plane so they do have for us at least I don't know if that was where it is everywhere, but they basically have like, they tell you where to sit. Okay, right? So they tell you. And normally it's like positional, like who sits where. But that doesn't mean anything once the plane is in the sky though, right? Like people move, they move.
Starting point is 00:14:39 For instance, the second batch you're about to see, I'm up in with the offense in the special teams area, right? They were a very relaxed group up there. I mean, for a while, they were a very calm, cool demeanor. They did like Sudokus, crosswords. They did. They did have some wine and things like that. They had a good time.
Starting point is 00:14:56 But I do like the fact that you were showing people like, hey, here is how this operates. And, you know, towards the front of the defense is where, you know, the OGs are choosing to sit that were new to the team. And whenever we make it to, you know, past DeQuel and then to Mike Adams, that's where this video really takes an upset. Don't you think so? Yeah, I agree. And what are your thoughts on how the plane is set up for teams? You like it?
Starting point is 00:15:19 You know, I've been on three different teams. I feel like every team has something like a different dynamic. Like with us, it was just you can – they tell you where to sit, like you said, but you can kind of pick and be like, all right, I want to sit next to this guy or that guy. And then, you know, depending on what you're doing on the plane, you know, you want to sit next to the guys who are doing those same things. Similar things.
Starting point is 00:15:38 You know, similar things. You don't want a guy up there, you know, super focused, you know, doing his own quiet thing. You got a little – you know, so you know how it's doing. They did a good job, but somebody asked me, my friend Andrew, King Batch on the socials, he's like, who's sitting in first class? I was like, well, you know, the coaches
Starting point is 00:15:57 and probably Vinny, the OG Vinny. The coach is up there, my 40-year-old kicker's up there. But man, those player rides are fun, man. That was the first time when Vinatieri got up in the first class. He was never offered it before, right? So when it old regime, everybody was in the back. Everybody was in the back. And there was even like a curtain.
Starting point is 00:16:18 And it was like, hey, we're going to go ahead and handle this back here. You guys are up there. You do your thing. It was the front office. Oh, my God. That just made me think about, who was that lineman? Yeah, yeah. I fucked two bad bitches at the same damn time.
Starting point is 00:16:32 Yeah, I've told that story before. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I didn't say his name, though. I don't know. Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. You can now. You can now.
Starting point is 00:16:40 I don't know. He's probably a politician or something. Science teacher. Science teacher, you can say but um that was that man he was killing it too hey hey hey and then somebody came running back
Starting point is 00:16:55 it's like that owner is on the point put the phone down okay well alright you are fucked dude anyways let's continue with that that was awesome all right so sometimes you know younger players have to sing like that has to happen and this plane was incredibly jovial this one i don't know why it seemed like it was a good time we had to have had a pretty big win there. Guy in the offensive line room, young,
Starting point is 00:17:27 but talking to him, had a personality. Everybody knew that, right? Sure. So on the spot, middle of the plane, you know, they're like, hey, sing! You know, like, it becomes like a speech type thing, but it's in a plane. So to do so, he goes and grabs the speaker, you know, with the,
Starting point is 00:17:39 you know, that whole thing. And he grabs this and uh he starts freestyling you know what i mean he and he as he's you know i fuck two bad bitches at the same day and he's this big guy the offensive line he's a big guy and everybody starts like hyping him up you know he started everybody starts gassing him everybody i'm not when i say we i'm not talking like me and darius i'm talking like everybody's like oh even the people that are like watching film are like yeah and then this person and play certain plane rides are different too so certain rides you got a different group of
Starting point is 00:18:15 people on there so you may have more you know of like the owner's friends or sponsors things the different family members who aren't typically on the plane. This happened to be one of those. And this guy had no clue. I don't think any of us did, by the way. Yeah, and they came back, man. Because usually, you know, they let us, we rock. We do our thing on the plane. Music in the thing, even.
Starting point is 00:18:37 It's one of those things, I think, where the front office that is up in the front, whoever traveled, they almost feel like more part of the team, I think, on those. Whenever the music's playing, they get a chance to like see they get a peek behind like the curtain almost right how the whole thing is now i assume some people hated it like i i assume that there was some people first regime there was a couple people that whenever things were getting a little bit too much they were like can we turn it down and keep it down yeah but then normally the back of the plane would be like, nah. Nah, nah, nah.
Starting point is 00:19:06 Yeah, you keep it down. It always became one of those. That was a really awesome thing. But man, when that person came flying back, walking down the aisle, and then delivers the news, his soul leaves the plane. Not just his body. He just basically, they take the phone out.
Starting point is 00:19:27 The one flight attendant who was really cool, forget her name. Star? Yeah, Star. Star takes the phone like slowly and just like, it was like out of a fucking movie.
Starting point is 00:19:39 And everybody said, you know what? You turned to your seat. You saw the plane, everybody standing up. That was good. That was good. So he knew instantly he was going to get cut. so you turned to your seats you saw the player everybody standing up that was yeah that was that was good ah so he knew instantly he was gonna get cut ah yeah his future probably wasn't yeah the greatest hey man hell of a run what a moment though still talking about it yeah
Starting point is 00:19:56 all right let's get back to the plane here shall we we? Shout out to Overton over here. He's got a Budweiser dome on. Oh, there's Taquell having a good time here. That was SP. Oh, was it? Okay. Okay, Fort Town Army. Shout out to Brandon. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:20:16 Now, this is where it gets good. Hey, man. The difference with us is when we do what we do, we do what we do, but we do it like we do it for TV. Oh, shit. You hear that? Mike thought he dropped a bar right there, too, bro. Hey, listen, we do have to have a little bit of understanding,
Starting point is 00:20:34 the state of mind that pops probably. He played for the Broncos. Yep. Okay. Big win. Big win. I assume he is, you know, we're not in the sky yet, but I assume there's something going on potentially altitude wise.
Starting point is 00:20:47 I'm not saying with what I do or what anybody else, I'm assuming he is not a sober human at this point. Yeah. Okay. This is the, the party already started after the game on the bus to the plane. I mean, there is already, there's already, there's already something. And also they have to pack the whole plane. So all of our shit has to get packed in there too.
Starting point is 00:21:04 So it's a, you hang out there. A little bit of a process. Yeah, there's a process. So I don't want people to think, like, oh, the party hasn't even started yet. No, no, Mike. He's had eight beers already. But no, the party had not started yet at this point. Oh, jeez.
Starting point is 00:21:17 The real one. I had somebody hit me, like, oh, this is the... Man, I'm like, we didn't even take off yet. Like, this is just a start. But like you said, there's a process. Let's get my credit leave the stadium. There's toward all in there He's feeling good big win not a bad a by the way delivered it and that's what it's all about I fucking love pops by the way, but let's go ahead. Let's keep it moving. Hey, what's happening? I'm going to give a shout out. You know.
Starting point is 00:21:46 Yeah, we out here. We out. We on the plane. So, yeah. I mean. Altitude. Yeah. I mean, we had a good time there.
Starting point is 00:21:58 I think in that particular game, you know, we win. Anytime you're in Denver and you're kicking balls, I mean, it's a fun time. Yeah. I think I potentially got hit by a guy and also pinned him in the five, like, we win. Anytime you're in Denver and you're kicking balls, it's a fun time. I think I potentially got hit by a guy and also pinned him in the five penalty thing. It was like I had an okay ending to the game. I'm not sure I started good, but we just won the playoffs too,
Starting point is 00:22:14 so these stats do not matter. Who gives a fuck? Let's go. We're going to the AFC Championship game. Now, I didn't have any... We don't have to talk about that game, by the way. None of us recall what happened a week after this. One week after this video was taken, a lot of things changed quickly, okay? Talk about playing party.
Starting point is 00:22:32 Life hits you fast. But, I mean, you see a camera, you know, in the middle of that thing. Yeah. I mean, I wish I would have shouted, like, world star. I wish I would have. But go ahead and keep that thing going because a legend is about to pop into this thing darius good shooting by the way that is andrew that's him that's andrew By the way, this is Andrew Luck after winning a playoff game against Peyton Manning.
Starting point is 00:23:08 Just, hey, how's it going? Hey, guys. Hey, good to see you. Hey. What's up, D-Butt? Nicest guy of all time, by the way. Not normal, you know, for people just to whip out a camera in Andrew Luck's world, I'd assume. Right?
Starting point is 00:23:21 Andrew, I think he potentially just lives in the woods. Off the map off have you heard Anything about him I mean even this video It's looking a little grainy now what do you do to Well we had to pause it and this Is a rip from your rip off of your rip I mean it's like he is in there though He's right behind it but I mean
Starting point is 00:23:37 That is just such a perfect Andrew Luck yeah All right He's awesome and go finish this thing out it was a big play it was a big play Take my picture. All right. You're part of the party too, buddy. Get in here. Hop your ass in here. I want big family. That was awesome.
Starting point is 00:24:09 That was a nice trip down memory lane. Yeah, it was. I assume this isn't great radio, but I apologize. That peek into the post-game flights, because we always hear about it, but actually seeing how it was. Sweet. You saw Coach Doofus there sitting up. Yeah, I saw Coach. Yeah, did you see Coach?
Starting point is 00:24:25 You saw his cup. It was, that thing was ready to get demolished. Nice little Kangol hat. Yeah, following in Bruce's steps. I mean, that guy. D-Bot, thanks for posting that, man. Hey, no problem, man. Good memories.
Starting point is 00:24:36 Good trip down memory lane. Did you record yourself saying anything else that night? Yeah, but Tom Brady changed that. Real quick in a hurry but uh i mean i was you know i was on one man we all were how could you not that doesn't happen a lot yeah you know you don't win playoff games on the road much against the guy who the legendary quarterback who left your franchise too i mean who got released right there's a uh there's a photo after that game i think uh it's me and payton shaking hands and i have like a backwards hat on and i think you actually can see me going have a good night sir it is by the way pain was a great teammate very
Starting point is 00:25:19 cool but for a lot of people in that building you know, that was a massive night for them. Big. Huge. Massive night. The people that made the decision. It worked. Andrew. That's a big deal.
Starting point is 00:25:34 Also at home, Sunday Night Football. We won that game too. Oh, yeah. That was the year before, right? Yeah, 2013. Those are big. That game, and they posted that. Yeah, just saw it recently. I saw it a couple days ago.
Starting point is 00:25:44 That was an electric atmosphere. And I know everybody says every game is the same. And for me, every punt was hopefully the same. But that week, you know, those weeks, yeah, there I am. Hey, have a good night, dude. He's probably like, fuck you. Well, I don't know if he said that exactly But he did get the gist You know
Starting point is 00:26:06 Of the situation there Where I was I was gonna go have a blast On that play Yeah And he knew it You know He's a good
Starting point is 00:26:12 He was a good guy You never teammates with him huh Nope Never get to meet him The first You know As a kid You get into
Starting point is 00:26:19 You actually get to the league And it's like Damn I'm playing Matter of fact Playing that fourth and two game My rookie year That was the one of probably Three games in my career where i was like i feel like this shit is like a movie oh yeah you told us that you're in a video game just being
Starting point is 00:26:33 lined up and just hearing you know the sheriff do his thing and then been on the sideline and watching brady do his thing like that was crazy but after that game and bill belichick belichick you know you got so it was crazy so after that know, got to run up and shake Peyton Manning's hand. Got to. So went up, shook his hand, and he was like, hey, man. He said something along the lines of me and Donald Brown. Because Donald Brown was the first-round pick that year with you guys, my college teammate.
Starting point is 00:26:57 Like, oh, shit. Peyton knows who I am. Oh, he knows a lot about you. Yeah. He probably knew exactly the color of your tape every single night. So I was like, okay. That was a dope moment. Played him probably a handful of times
Starting point is 00:27:10 and he was always cool and passive. First time I met him, he said his name. Hi, I'm Peyton Manning. In the Indianapolis Colts locker room. I met him. I know, Peyton. I'm trying not to get cut. Bill just drafted me to do a position I don't fully understand. You and I might not be teammates for long. I'm trying not to get cut. Okay. Bill just drafted me to do a position I don't fully understand.
Starting point is 00:27:26 All right. So you and I might not be teammates for long. I'm just going to shut the fuck up here. Nice to meet you, sir. Let's get to a break here. He's, I mean, Robert talked about it. Yeah. Robert said, hopefully he'll be at my ring of honor induction thing.
Starting point is 00:27:38 But sacking him was the thing, you know, because he was like in practice, people get fired if they even came close yeah three yards three yards it'd be like old boy on the plane let's get to a break hey pops i thought you did great dude yeah good promo fair enough what's that all about that was terrible fair enough what's that all about that shit was terrible
Starting point is 00:28:02 that shit was cool he didn't know too much dog pops my dog though yeah he didn't know he didn't know who was gonna see that he didn't know
Starting point is 00:28:10 I caught him in the moment he had something ready at least you gotta give him that yeah he was the top and energetic yeah and ready he was ready
Starting point is 00:28:16 I think we were flying on smaller planes all year that's why I was potentially mocking the situation they tried to is that the year they tried to
Starting point is 00:28:24 go to a yeah so I think that is why I was potentially mocking the situation They tried to Is that the year they tried to Go to a Yeah Oh that shit backfired So I think that is why I was potentially mocking That's why the Noah's Ark and the Titanic By the way Titanic not a good reference Nope Especially before you take off
Starting point is 00:28:35 Yeah yeah but you gotta remember I was I mean we were in Denver Yeah Save you with Noah's Ark Yeah Yeah Well Did that go
Starting point is 00:28:42 Yeah that went well That worked That's why I said that. That went well. Titanic probably came out of the mouth, and I was like, whoa, whoa. What's big in State of Life? No, it was ours. Save the world.
Starting point is 00:28:53 That's what we need to get back on. All right. I'm sure this is award-winning radio. Right up there. 1-833-4-MACAFEE. We'll answer some calls on the other side. Tebow, top five selling items on NFLershop.com up there. 1-833-4-MACAFEE. We'll answer some calls on the other side. Tebow, top five selling items on NFLershop.com right now.
Starting point is 00:29:10 Somebody told you guys that. Never. Never would have guessed that. Shocker. Wasn't it? It was crazy. Wonder why he's getting an opportunity and not, you know. Northwest Missouri State guy? Yeah. Who deserves a shot. What, you don't care about that guy?
Starting point is 00:29:26 He's not moving needles. No, he is not selling out. I'm sure he might sell. No, we don't know. What's his name? What's his name? I don't know. I thought if I changed my name to P-H-U-C-K, I thought that would move a lot of Jersey. Fuck one.
Starting point is 00:29:37 Yeah. I don't know if it would have been okay, but when I saw Ocho do it, I was like, whoa. Hold on. I could probably do this as well here. But then, you know, Tim and Sally McAfee would have to call their son Pat Fuck. And that would be... The Cubs had that.
Starting point is 00:29:51 He had Fukudomi. Cubs fans bought that just for that. Oh, yeah. That's all I was thinking was, you know what? I get four cents for every jersey sold. Let's go ahead and sell at least a hundred of them. Why not? I can get four bucks out of this thing. Shout out to the NFLPA, by the way. Great negotiation.
Starting point is 00:30:06 What were you going to say, Ty? His actually said, fuck you, do me. That's how it was spelled, too. F-U-K-U-D-O-M-E, right? Yep. Yeah. I think I own one of those jerseys. For sure.
Starting point is 00:30:16 It was like a Shockers hat, Wichita State Shockers hat back in the day. Yep. The Fukudomi. Any guess on the first non-T-bow? Like the highest selling non-T-bow item? Justin Fields. Hell yeah. Let's get to a break. Is that right? Yep.
Starting point is 00:30:36 No shit. Is that right? You're absolutely right. It's a great Friday! The Bears! The Bears. A lot of Mad Dog Radio fans have been tweeting their displeasure with It's a great Friday. Go Bears. Buy your shirts now. A lot of Mad Dog Radio fans have been tweeting their displeasure with our frat-like antics whenever we all yell into the microphone. Sorry.
Starting point is 00:30:53 I'd like to let you know that that ain't stopping ever. Bad you. It probably will, though, at some point. We'll get too tired to do it. And at that point, we'll retire because we'll know that our best days were behind us whenever we were doing frat-like antics yelling into the microphone. It's Feel Good Friday. These people don't feel good at all.
Starting point is 00:31:11 I checked their Twitter accounts. They fucking stink. Okay. But with that being said, they are entitled to their opinion. Yeah, of course. Everybody is. Even if it fucking stinks. Well, that's what I've been saying.
Starting point is 00:31:22 There's been a lot of people that have made terrible decisions off of terrible opinions for, what, probably thousands of years at this point. Oh, yeah. Don of times. Think about this. The Italians killed Jesus. Huh. Good point.
Starting point is 00:31:33 Pontius. Yeah. I guess Pontius Pilate was not actually Italian. That's not true. I don't know. What's that, Diggs? He's heard somebody. That's not true.
Starting point is 00:31:44 No, you just heard an Italian somebody. What's that? Thatiggs? I just heard somebody, that's not true. No, you just heard an Italian somebody. What's that? That's simply not true. What isn't true about it? Well, they were hired, so. Mercenaries? Also was not from Italy. He's from Judea.
Starting point is 00:31:59 What's that? It's Judea. It ain't Italy. You Italians. You don't even know where it is. You just saw a word that ain't Italy. You Italians. You don't even know where it is. You just saw a word that wasn't Italy, and you were like, all right, what if it's in Italy? It's not, and if it was, it's not there anymore. People go through many changes as we get older, isn't that right?
Starting point is 00:32:20 Oh, yeah. For men, one of the less fortunate changes is that testosterone production begins to naturally decrease in the body. Did you know this, AJ? I am aware. For most men, it begins around the age of 30, and testosterone production declines by roughly 1% per year. My God. So if you live to 130, you ain't got shit left. No.
Starting point is 00:32:41 Minus 30. Well, if it starts around 30 this is one of those questions on a test where you know begins around 30 in the testosterone production declines by roughly one percent per year so does it start at zero or does it start at 30 that's the thing this is where they can get you it's one of them damn word. This is one of those rounds where you're like, oh, wait a minute. Which, can I ask a follow-up? Anyways, I was good at those tests because I always viewed it as me versus the fucking teacher. That's right.
Starting point is 00:33:12 I don't know what's going on, but this is me versus you. Fuck you. That's how I view it. That's why friends at Roman have a new supplement designed to support testosterone production. I did not know this. They formulated their own supplements with transparent and scientifically backed ingredients.
Starting point is 00:33:28 You hear this, AJ? Roman's testosterone supplement is for anyone who wants to support their own body's natural function. They formulated their own blend with transparent and scientifically backed ingredients. Getting started is simple. Just go to GetRoman.com slash USA. Their supplement contains vitamin D3, zinc, magnesium, and ashwagandha in a unique blend designed by healthcare professionals that you can't get anywhere else.
Starting point is 00:33:58 To learn more about these incredible ingredients, visit GetRoman.com slash USA. Roman is offering $15 off your first order and will deliver your supplements right to your door with free two-day shipping. When you go to GetRoman.com forward slash USA, get $15 off your first order plus free two-day shipping. That's GetRoman,
Starting point is 00:34:15 G-E-T-R-O-M-A-N dot com forward slash USA. That's good news. Let's try that stuff. Okay. I've been looking for that type of stuff. That's good news. That's what I want. Now we know. Hey, Roman. Thank you, Roman.
Starting point is 00:34:28 Thank you, Roman. Thank you, Roman. Here's a man joining us now who's in the NFL who has made great business decisions, I think. I don't know the ins and outs. I haven't asked him about his goddamn bank account, but I've seen the humans he was just at dinner with the other night, and I a chance to you know see i haven't tried it yet but i saw his wine show up in my house that he's launching now game time wine i believe it just showed up at my house he was a gopro for a long time super bowl champion numerous times with the new england
Starting point is 00:35:00 patriots one of vinita's close friends one of of Tom Brady's close friends. He's a part of that Kentucky Derby crew. He's a long snapper. He's a legend. He's a businessman. Ladies and gentlemen, Lonnie Paxton. Yay! What up, dude? Now you're muted.
Starting point is 00:35:18 Jesus Christ. I mean, Jesus Christ. It's probably our fault. It's probably our fault. I'm on. I'm on. Yay! Was that our fault or his?
Starting point is 00:35:27 That was your fault, but that was a great fucking intro, so thank you. What's that? AJ's on. Oh, AJ's on as well? Yeah. Lonnie, I don't know if you know this dude. Ladies and gentlemen, AJ Hawk also. Yeah!
Starting point is 00:35:39 AJ, I'm sorry. What's up, AJ? You're good. What's up, Lonnie? How you doing? Good, brother. Good. Good. Good.
Starting point is 00:35:45 Long time. Hey, Lonnie, so you guys run into each other at the Kentucky Derby every once in a while? You guys real sober, talking, shaking hands, having no fun at all over there? Is that what goes on, Lonnie? Yeah. I mean, typically the Derby is one of the quietest times of my year with all the boys you know we go there and just uh sit down high five and tell old stories about you know what it used to be like yeah um no fun's had there but in all reality it is pretty much the greatest 36 hours on the face of the planet
Starting point is 00:36:17 i could imagine i get to see some pictures and hear the stories and as soon as i talked about you and knowing you, AJ was like, oh, I know Lonnie from the Kentucky Derby and everything like that. And I'm very thankful for you joining us today. Congrats on this game time wine. Let's go. Thanks.
Starting point is 00:36:35 Thank you. Thank you. Yeah, it's been real. It's been crazy. I mean, as you know, with the pandemic and shit, there's been obviously a lot of changes. And I was at GoPro for a long time, got super fortunate to pick up that role right out of the NFL and traveled the world, did some really amazing shit with them.
Starting point is 00:36:51 But now I'm advising and I've got my hands in a hundred different things, kind of like you mentioned. And one of them is this wine by a brand called Knocking Point. And we launched Game Time Wine. We're the official wine of sports. Ashton Kutcher's on a board of directors. It started by a celebrity who's actually playing a wrestler on a TV show with James Harrison. His name's Stephen Amell.
Starting point is 00:37:11 So, I mean, it's right down your alley, buddy. Yeah, Stephen Amell, second greatest celebrity wrestler of all time, I think a lot of people would say, in the history of the business. Good for him. He was awesome, and I can't wait to see that show. We saw the picture, and can we bring this picture up? It's on his Instagram. Zito's's gonna try and find it right now in this picture was that a board meeting what and is that just is that that you're in the illuminati now you're in the illuminati man so that was at ashton's house um he's got this ridiculous house that uh he couldn't even
Starting point is 00:37:43 tell us how big it was because he didn't know that's how big it was but it's it's it's up at the top of the hills in Beverly Hills Denzel Washington's his neighbor but he invited us all there and the idea was to get legends involved to really lean into the next varietal of this game timeline so what you're going to taste or soon hopefully is where it's at today but moving forward we wanted to get some of these guys like, you know, Dwayne Wade and Brandon Marshall, Allie Raisman, and, you know, a handful of these celebrities and sports icons. Michael Irvin was there, you know, and they all leaned in.
Starting point is 00:38:16 We voted. Tony Hawk, dude! Yeah, I mean, I tried to hit up your publicist. They said you weren't available. Nah! That ain't true. And by the way, I don't deserve tried to hit up your publicist. They said you weren't available. No! That ain't true. And by the way, I don't deserve to be at this table yet. Maybe someday I will.
Starting point is 00:38:30 Go ahead, AJ. Lonnie, I'm curious. That dinner, that meeting, what is your role? And do you feel comfortable being pretty vocal and adding things to that? Well, my role in the company is chief strategy officer. So I was brought in as an advisor and elevated to kind of run the strategy, man. So, you know, I helped gather up some of the athletes who were involved, helped talk about, you know, what we're doing moving forward with content and marketing and storytelling. And, you know, it was an honor for me to just sit at the table and listen to a lot of these legends talk. And, you know, we run around the table and Ashton made everyone kind of say,
Starting point is 00:39:05 you know, announce who you are and tell us what makes you a champion, which was kind of a really cool moment when you went around the table there and got to hear it from everybody. And, you know, I'm a long snapper, bro. So, you know, I've prided myself of being America's guest
Starting point is 00:39:20 and doing the job that no one wants to do and just shut the fuck up and be silent and reap the job that no one wants to do and just shut the fuck up and, and be silent and, and, and reap the rewards off the field. Jeez, Lonnie. Um, real quick.
Starting point is 00:39:30 I know probably in this world that you've been in now, cause your business excellence and also your snapping excellence as well. Long time, massive games. Didn't fuck up. Doesn't get talked about ever, but you're a great long snapper as well. Nobody cares, but you were a great long snapper as well. Nobody cares,
Starting point is 00:39:45 but you were a great long snapper as well. I want you to know that. I appreciate that. And coming from you, that means a lot. Cause you're the, you know, you guys are my mojo.
Starting point is 00:39:53 You know, you make us look good on sometimes we throw it inside or throw it low, whatever. And you, you let the ballers like AJ and the, and the office players, you know, make all the plays and win the games.
Starting point is 00:40:02 But you know, when it comes down to those, you know, 40 mile-hour wins in Buffalo and those 50-yard kicks and those plus 50 punts that you're supposed to do good, we can't fuck it up. And that's the beauty of our position. It's also the worst part of it. And if you do, by the way, you're gone.
Starting point is 00:40:20 Okay? See you later. Yeah, you're gone. I mean, the best long snapper and the worst long snapper in the league are probably just one play away from each other. Hey, Mule Bach. Hey, Mule's still going, dude. It's unbelievable.
Starting point is 00:40:33 He throws freaking smoke, too. Yeah, he's a real freak. All right, let's get back to this building, though. Let's get back to this dinner. I would like to get back to this dinner. Darius, you know Darius Butler? He came to New England after you, I believe, but he were in Denver whenever he got up there. What's up, bro? What's up, Lonnie?
Starting point is 00:40:48 Yeah, I don't know if we've met. I'm sure our stories have collided in some form or fashion. For sure. Lonnie, I like to hear that bullshit, by the way. I just heard you work there. Hey, Darius, you know what I mean? That was great. That's good business, man. I'm going to steal that.
Starting point is 00:41:03 Me too, AJ. That seems like we should probably try to steal everything Lonnie's saying because look at the fucking dinner he's at. Did you guys eat food? Was there food at this thing? There was food served by Wolfgang Puck's crew. My God. Wolfgang. How do you get to the Illuminati?
Starting point is 00:41:23 This is it. This is a movie. You were at a movie. It was unbelievable. You couldn't say it more. Obviously, it was the first time in a long time getting together in a public setting or a group setting like this. It was crazy walking into his house. I've been to Brady's house. I've been to some other guys' houses. This, by far, was just it was crazy walking into his house and i mean it just i mean i've been to
Starting point is 00:41:45 brady's house i've been to some other guys houses and this by far was just one of those things you just it was unbelievable just a quick what's your price yeah what's your price in for game time it's good because i assume with all these people these are like important wine people i'd assume these people have like brandon marshall's in here i assume he's potentially a wine drinker. I think I've seen some videos of him drinking wine. Is the game time wine for the wine people or is game time wine like it's good. It's good ass wine because it comes from Walla Walla right at the Oregon border. So we make really good wine, but it's at a price point like 18 to 25 bucks. That is reasonable.
Starting point is 00:42:22 And the reason we're kind of going down the sports lane is because when you go to a sporting event or you you know you sit around on the weekends and watch sports you know plugging 10 ipa beers like you used to just ain't really good for the figure as you can tell um with a lot of our former teammates so you know you either have this snobby wine scenario where it's 100 bucks a bottle or you got this gasoline they serve you a game right so we're kind of in this sports lane we're collaborating with artists you know a lot of these guys who left that uh room are investors now because of a what they believed in the how it tasted and and ashton's on board everything he touches turns to gold so um you know i sit on an
Starting point is 00:42:59 executive table with me ashton and steven amell and the co-founder andrew harding so can you believe that no i can't it's awesome though after I mentioned I got a chance to chat with you a couple times actually I can believe it by the way after getting a chance to chat with you you are an incredible communicator and also by the way I think you're incredibly intelligent obviously I mean this is something that's happening and this is not a normal trait by the way for somebody to be in the NFL but also be as business savvy as you are I hope you look in the mirror every once in a while say pretty fucking good you know what i mean i hope you do that yeah i appreciate it man i mean i couldn't sit up here and do what you do i mean you guys taught i mean you're so tuned in on pop culture and sports
Starting point is 00:43:38 culture and all the things you talk about and be able to do that all day and you know have fun doing it i knew i wasn't built for that. I wasn't built for coaching. And so I was always the guy kind of giving – I had the swag in the locker room. Guys would send me boxes. I'm handing out shoes, shirts. The plug. Going to Red Bull events.
Starting point is 00:43:55 The plug. Things like that. Right. I got the guy. Yeah. Okay, last question before I know we're going to get to some football, and I know AJ wants to ask you, and I assume you can't tell us whose speech was the worst,
Starting point is 00:44:07 but did anybody bomb in here, and did anybody really do well when they were asked by Ashton Kutcher what makes them a champion? No, well, it was funny. It was funny. The winemaker who's wearing the Kindness Pass It On shirt in the middle, that's another partner of mine. It's a sustainable marketplace,
Starting point is 00:44:24 and it was started by a guy who left GoPro, number four gopro and so i do some stuff for them i drive this big van around that says kindness pass it on but the guy in the middle he was starstruck he was the winemaker he's kind of the genius but he was just starstruck so he couldn't get his words out and he was just like you know i'm sweaty's sweating. Knee arms are heavy. We're like, oh, yeah. Oh, man. He's got so much to say, too. I bet he knew what he wanted to say.
Starting point is 00:44:52 He looks back on it and says, you know what? I make great wine. All right, that's good. But I had that chance right there in front of Michael Irvin, Ashton Kutcher, Brandon Marshall, Ali, the whole crew there. Tony Hawk. Dwayne Wade. Tony Hawk. Hey, do Marshall, Allie, the whole crew there. Tony Hawk. Dwayne Wade. Tony Hawk.
Starting point is 00:45:06 Hey, do a kickflip, dude. What a moment. Hey, congrats on game time, Wanda. That's awesome. Let's talk football. Thank you, bro. Go ahead, AJ. Let's talk some football, though.
Starting point is 00:45:15 Hey, Lonnie, speaking of your time when you were in New England, I'm just with what you're doing and all your business savvy and you're the guy, you're the connector. Did you feel comfortable doing things like outside of the locker room? Like if you were, whether self-promotion or whatever, I just feel like if I played, I feel like it's like my high school coaches. I feel like anything I did outside of the locker room, they're just going to kill me and make fun of me and make me run for it.
Starting point is 00:45:36 Like, do you feel when you're in New England, can you do stuff outside? Back in the day, you couldn't, bud. I mean, I didn't even get on Instagram until I was at GoPro I mean, I didn't have social media until then and thank God social media wasn't around the early days because we were running the streets of Boston anyways, but yeah, you know the What I would say to that is that you know I picked and choose what I could do I was actually the way I got a lot of my opportunities was I was the guy who did the freebies for the guys upstairs
Starting point is 00:46:02 They needed you to go to this event to shake hands for, you know, a free limo ride, or you got to go to this children's hospital. You know, some guys would charge money for that stuff. I was one of the guys who did a lot of stuff for free, which helped build those connections in the city, which then progressed after football and kind of led into some of these roles. And so it wasn't really outward promotion, but it was a lot of these networking things that kind of occurred, you know, from those marketing guys who come down and ask you to do shit.
Starting point is 00:46:29 Hey, you have, you got a chance to experience, right? I mean, the dynasty, you were in there, right? You went three with them, I think. Three? Three? Three, yeah. Three out of four years, but that one that hurts is the Giants one, so. In Indy, by the way, that's tough.
Starting point is 00:46:44 Yeah. I almost went undefeated man that's a shame i'm really sorry you didn't you know i am bummed about it which which should which will be a follow-up to this so uh you know it has meaning oh deep-rooted there we have not forgotten you said that's why tom brady on the nfl draft-a-thon whenever he was asked if he would give up two rings for the perfect season he said he would and everybody thought he was potentially joking is this something that whenever you guys didn't go perfect against the giants it was like devastating for everybody
Starting point is 00:47:14 and still something you talk about to this day still still hurts i was with tom we actually did the derby trip a couple weeks ago it was a little different we didn't have you know the the normal the ogss like Teddy and Welker and Braves and his own castle. We went and it was different. A couple of guys, he brought that up and you could see the smoke coming out of his ears.
Starting point is 00:47:35 Oh, so they're going to go undefeated next year? I told you. I mean... I told you. I don't know. I didn't say it here, but they're on fire. Oh, okay. So this is Tom's. Giselle asked, what more do you need to prove?
Starting point is 00:47:50 And he goes, you fucking forgot. I mean, we are almost. Those 72 Dolphins guys are still popping bottles at this moment. Let's go take that. Okay, let's get back into the football a little bit. You know, the Tom Brady, Bill Belichick stuff. Okay, this is obviously. And I would assume that you have learned a lot from both of them that you have taken into your life now in the
Starting point is 00:48:10 business world and everything like that but I think this is just from outside looking in and I think AJ agrees with me here they needed each other but also very understandable that at some point that could potentially combust right like I think that is just something that the whole world that's potentially in that world understands but as these stories start to trickle out about them hating each other you know it's kind of interesting for the fans though to be like oh these two like they hated each other they didn't get along when you were there did you sense any of that do you think that happened later do you like how do you think they hate each other or do you think this is all getting blown out of proportion because it is tom brady bill belichick i think i i think
Starting point is 00:48:50 in the early days it was just a grind you know i mean they he beat everyone down i mean from the teddies rodney's toms uh special teams guys uh even junior sao he was beaten down when he got there um and it was just playing on the Patriots a lot of times was the way you worked hard you brought your lunch practices were tough, you'd have the low lights on Monday even if you won by 40 and on to the next one
Starting point is 00:49:16 but obviously after many years of that, I'm assuming you grow up, you hear media kind of sending Bill's ego and Bill's legacy this way and Tom's this way, and they're causing this split. But as a family, I mean, they love each other.
Starting point is 00:49:37 He would never have said that he probably could have done that somewhere else if it wasn't for the group of guys that came in, the way the ownership treated us um the the assistant coaches and and the team that they put together after you know we were 5-11 2000. okay so so they hate each other you think no they don't they like each other um deep respect i deep respect i don't know if you'd see him at on his boat in nantucket like week four like week four for instance week four is i can't wait to that game because that's i think that'll be pure hate like i think they're both though like i think they are both at that one
Starting point is 00:50:19 that is going to be remembered that's a big one yeah and they'll probably leave that one saying i'll see you in la yeah ah that would be awesome what do you have this is a big patriots fan boston connor what do you have yeah lonnie thank you for you know snapping the ball to adam during those two game winning kicks those are perfect of course ken walter as well josh miller of course josh good guy hilarious uh but this upcoming season i do believe long snappers will be getting voted to the Pro Bowl. What do you think kind of constitutes a Pro Bowl long snapper? And then also, you think you'll throw your hat in the ring to kind of select who will go? Hey, Lonnie, and let me follow up on that because this is a big deal.
Starting point is 00:50:59 There's nobody that's going to be able to tell who the best fucking long snapper is in the league unless they watch all the clips and know what they're talking about nobody's i like that it's happening because it's like more acknowledgement for the long snappers but there's no way anybody's going to know no way no no you can't know that and you know the only guys who know really are a couple special teams coaches your guards who play next to you um your fullback and and obviously the punters and holders i mean those are the only really guys that should vote and should know. Maybe the guys who tried it, you know, like the early days in AJ's world when he was on special teams trying to rush over me might have blocked him,
Starting point is 00:51:35 might have not. But those guys who try and, like, game the snapper, they might know. But it is worth acknowledgement. And like I said earlier, I i mean a lot of times the difference between the best and worst is one snap so there's other factors it's not just perfect snaps it's your blocking it's your coverage um you know it's it's everything it's it's the rhythm that you have yeah and then obviously having a good punter if you have a shitty punter you're gonna be the best long snapper in the world and you just don't get
Starting point is 00:52:01 recognized because you know the whole team's getting booed by the way if the punter's bad everybody's getting you can have a perfect snap i shake that thing booze or raining down on your ass while you're jogging off yeah yeah yeah or a holding penalty and we got to do it all over again or like shit bad guy you got four fours running by you by the way you're supposed to snap it set and not hold not hold onto a guy while it's all happening. I was middle safety. I'm down there. Unless the guy ran into me, I wasn't making a tackle. Go ahead, Ty.
Starting point is 00:52:34 Lonnie, did you have plans in place in terms of what you wanted to do after football? Because you obviously have a very infectious personality and everything, but you said you didn't have Instagram or anything like that, and I assume being a long snapper, you really need to, like, obviously dedicate to the craft. Because if you fuck up, like Pat mentioned, you're gone. Like, at what point, like, were you just trying to, you were going to do it as long as you wanted to do it and go out on your own terms? Or, like, at what point did you, like, start thinking about, like, okay, I need to start figuring out what I'm going to do post-football? Yeah, I mean, I came from SoCal.
Starting point is 00:53:02 okay, I need to start figuring out what I'm going to do post-football? Yeah, I mean, I came from SoCal, and a lot of the way I was just brought up, and my friends were in action sports and branding and marketing and these events and Red Bulls and Oakleys. I mean, I had a house when I was from 2004 to 2011. I had three acres. I had a big BMX track in the back. I had a giant grotto pool, and we would host events there and have like a thousand people slightly stupid was playing.
Starting point is 00:53:27 And so you got to learn all the brand managers and the, and the action sports athletes, Carrie Hart shows up and Brian Deegan and, you know, these motocross guys I grew up around. So I kind of was integrating unknowingly into this, this culture and this life. And then as my career came to an end in end um in denver uh the red bull guy went to gopro who said hey there's just going to be this new thing and and we want to get into pro
Starting point is 00:53:52 sports you know i think you could help us and so i started thinking about it and actually he brought a bunch of cameras out uh an opening day and we were you know we're giving them to the dj williams and champ bailey and all these guys in the parking lot. So I'm seeding product, and I'm getting their reactions. And they're like, oh, let me hook you up and do this for you. So it became this thing that I unknowingly was doing. And then when things ended, I was like, oh, maybe I should give that a try because of what I said earlier.
Starting point is 00:54:21 But broadcast booth or coaching just didn't feel like it was for me. So, yeah, so that's kind of how it went. Coaching is a nightmare. Go ahead, AJ. Lonnie, going back to the whole Brady-Belichick situation, do you think that Bill and the Patriots, has things changed, you think, now that Tom has left? Like, is he able to still grind on him like he did back when you were first there?
Starting point is 00:54:45 I mean, he grinds on everyone. That was actually the common denominator was you sat in that meeting room and he's telling Tom not to throw into team meetings. He throws an interception in practice. Three guys are around him. He's like, Tom, don't throw in this fucking team meeting. And everyone kind of chuckles. We're kind of like, wow, he just said that to TV.
Starting point is 00:55:07 And then he calls out Junior. One funny time, he actually called out Junior. It was right as we were leaving for off-season. So it was the end of minicamps. And it was the last day. He literally had a flight. He had two flights booked that day. He was going to miss the first one.
Starting point is 00:55:23 And so he says, Junior, what the fuck are you doing here? And all Junior said, he was in the back row, he said, C2A, Bill. Boom. Like the sound that you make when you push the button in first class. And everyone just died. And he kind of broke the meeting on that. So he loosened up towards the end of his career. That's awesome.
Starting point is 00:55:41 Go ahead, Darius. Yeah, I got one for you, Lonnie, because I want to be at a table like that one day. So being in the new space that you are, what are any parallels from playing the game and then now into what you're doing now? Yeah, I mean, some of the parallels, you know, I figured out because in the corporate world, you know, a lot of times it feels like some guys
Starting point is 00:56:01 think they're on scholarship, which pisses me the fuck off. I hate the fact that you meet about a meeting about a meeting about a meeting that never gets shit done it takes forever to get shit done you know and so what i like about these startups that i'm involved in kind humans and and knocking point a couple other small projects is like small teams family oriented everyone knows each other. You have an idea. We have a sports background, so we get shit done automatically. They kind of look to you for the teamwork side of it,
Starting point is 00:56:31 the do your job side of it, and then get creative and leverage your network. So the parallels were, you know, working together and making shit happen.com, you know? Gotcha. Amen. And that table is hilarious. I can't wait to drink game time wine. Kindness, pass it on. Can't wait to got you. Amen. And that table is hilarious. I can't wait to drink game time wine.
Starting point is 00:56:46 Kindness. Pass it on. Can't wait to watch you continue to blossom this incredible business run after an incredible NFL career. Lonnie, appreciate you stopping by, Bob. Man, this this has been so fun. I've been I've been looking forward to get on with you guys for a long time. I've been really watching you, Pat, you know, since since you kind of started this thing. You've just elevated the game, dude. And I get a kick
Starting point is 00:57:08 out of just listening to all the shit you come up with. No pun intended, but it is classic in your wrestling stuff. I mean, it's just perfect for you. And I knew it when we played against each other. So congrats to you guys on the show and the success. And if I can ever be any help
Starting point is 00:57:24 to you or you want to, you know, do some more of this stuff, I'd be happy. Come on. Lonnie, we'd love to chat with you. We also got a massive booze hound in the making. His name's Evan Fox. He will drink you guys out of wine if you could. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:36 Ladies and gentlemen, game time. It's Friday, baby. Ladies and gentlemen, Lonnie Paxson. Yeah, the merch is dope. Thank you, Lonnie. Woo! Ladies and gentlemen, Lonnie Paxson. Yeah, the merch is dope. Thank you, Lonnie. So sorry to interrupt, but I want to let you know that if you're not gambling with FanDuel, you're wrong. Okay? FanDuel Sportsbook is available in seven states, I believe, at this point.
Starting point is 00:57:57 Six, seven, eight. You get it. If you're not gambling with FanDuel Sportsbook, though, you're completely wrong. And if we're not in your state yet, we are coming to your state. We have better odds we have a much easier to use app the convenience is next level the people at Fandle actually refund people when they shouldn't refund people giving back hundreds of millions and millions of dollars to their users. FanDuel Sportsbook is the best sportsbook going for a lot of reasons. Most of them, what I just said. We are very thankful for our partnership with FanDuel, obviously.
Starting point is 00:58:32 You know, there was a little bit of a miscommunication last week between myself and FanDuel. We worked that out. That's kind of how things operate whenever you're in a business relationship with each other. But even if we weren't in a business relationship with FanDuel, it'd be hard to say that we wouldn't use the FanDuel Sportsbook app. There are so many different ways to win. There's more things to bet on. Their boosts seem to always hit,
Starting point is 00:58:52 which is just fucking themselves over time and time again. We love the hell out of FanDuel Sportsbook, and you will too. If you haven't used it yet, use it now. Also, there's fantasy on there, daily fantasy, and free-to-play games where you can win money. Shout out to FanDuel. Shout out to you. Let's get back to the show.
Starting point is 00:59:12 AJ Hawk is joining us from Ohio. How you doing, AJ? Darius Butler live down here at the FanDuel Beach House. Darius. I don't like that on the ticker. CLAIMS. In all caps, CLAIMS to be a heat lifer. Zio's laptop just crashed.
Starting point is 00:59:34 No, it's not that song. I don't hear it anymore. Well, I said that the show was wrapping up and the computers. They probably heard that They probably heard that Probably mailed it in On the weekend or whatever But I'm sorry
Starting point is 00:59:48 Go back to what you were saying All I heard was No I'm just watching the ticker And I see Oh yeah Darius Butler claims To be a heat lifer Yeah so that is
Starting point is 00:59:57 I'm loyal Do you want to know Who that is potentially That does that Or do you know I would I think it's Gump Yeah well that would be
Starting point is 01:00:04 100% right. Gumpy is the ticker adder. Ticker tatter. The ticker tinker. The ticker tinker is a Canadian painter. But what he puts up there, it is an honor to make it up there. I think him taking a shot at you though is something that people will see no matter what the video is about that is going to
Starting point is 01:00:30 scroll across the broad and you think that's a little bit slanderous a little bit libel now at this point because it has been written oh no slanderous man what's that all about you think the heat are gonna win it all this year no okay no i do not they stink huh no a very good team great culture i just don't think we have the talent to win it all this year did you watch This year, no. Okay. No, I do not. They stink, huh? No. They're a very good team. Great culture. I just don't think we have the talent to win it all this year. Did you watch the NBA the other night? Yeah, the Lakers-Warriors game? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:52 I stayed up until 3 in the morning to watch that one. Great game, though. Great game. 5.6 million viewers, allegedly. That's the amount of viewers. That is a big number in my eyes eyes especially for the time it was on obviously people that hate the nba though have come out and said can't even break anywhere near what blah blah blah and the nfl does when you got lebron and steph in there and i guess that's a valid point
Starting point is 01:01:16 but 5.6 million people watching i think is a big thing for the nba that's awesome let alone the online content and brom brom looks to be back he? He's shooting at three rims, dude. Shooting at three rims, bro. Three rims. Hey, you, by the way, I saw you tweet it out before the end of the game. Yeah, that is a little contradictory there. But you tweeted out,
Starting point is 01:01:38 I bet Bron's going to say he didn't see when he shot that. And then literally, his first, actually, I think as soon as he made the shot, he turned around. I can't see. Can't even see, bro. I can't even see. Well, I just want,
Starting point is 01:01:49 I hope he gets the respect he deserves. He shot that thing. Is that self-handicapping or the opposite? No, it's him letting people know, like, hey, listen, I'm fucking Pirate Steve right now, dude. Okay, I got one eye.
Starting point is 01:01:58 You saw what the Michigan State product, Draymond Green, did to my face. People won't give me any credit for this, but I shot this thing with one eye, okay? And nobody's giving me any credit. I think that's why he said, are you a LeBron guy or no?
Starting point is 01:02:09 Big LeBron guy. He is, that's the one thing, if it was one thing I wouldn't be a fan of with LeBron is just the dramatics. Well, you know, I was always a diehard LeBron fan. A little dramatic. I was always a diehard LeBron fan. Saw LeBron in high school come to Pittsburgh
Starting point is 01:02:23 and beat the dog shit out of the Pennsylvania All-Star team. It was just his high school team. Pennsylvania All-Star team played. He dunked from the foul line, I think, in front of everybody. And I was like, oh, this guy is awesome. And at that point, he had already had, I believe, the Hummer and the Nike deal. The whole thing had happened at that point.
Starting point is 01:02:38 He was really just getting going. I'm like, this guy's awesome. I think I'd seen him out in Cleveland play, too, whenever he was younger. I had a friend or whatever that drove over there, their family, and we watched him play. It was one of those things where he was like, I feel like a part of our generation.
Starting point is 01:02:53 Yeah, he's a year older than us. Yeah, I think so. But yeah, legend, man. Put his guys on too. He was the first example that I saw of that, like an athlete bringing his day one boys like you did and just put everybody on and everybody's doing, you know, number one agent in the game now, the NBA game.
Starting point is 01:03:09 And then his expectations, like... He's lived. I would probably say the highest expectations of any athlete ever coming out, and he's kind of exceeded them. So shout out to Bron Bron. Yeah, and by the way, not just exceeded the expectations on the court,
Starting point is 01:03:22 but off the court too somehow with everything that you talked about with not only his boys expectations on the court, but off the court too somehow with everything that you talked about with not only his boys, but the community. And also no massive in a world where everything is exploited and seen and heard about, no massive like PR disasters seem to be inevitable for everybody if you're going to be at a LeBron James level.
Starting point is 01:03:41 And with the world handed to him when he was like 16, it's before he even got in the NBA. The world was just handed to him like, hey, you're the king. You're the, you are the guy. Here's a hundred million dollars. And it's like, okay, okay, all right. And he somehow handled the whole thing.
Starting point is 01:03:57 But, and I've always been a fan. When you get around people that aren't fans though, you do start to notice what you were talking about. Like the dramatics, the like, the, you know, like he starts saying things and i'm like oh okay that makes sense and your friends oh you didn't hear him say you didn't hear him just pat himself on the back to say that he was this and then that i was like i guess he did yeah i guess he did do that oh i could see you oh so you hate him for that yeah fucking hate him i'm like oh okay that's not how i feel at all but
Starting point is 01:04:22 he's greatest of all time, in my eyes. The decision, you know, going to the heat, that, and then, you know, trademarking Taco Tuesday. Well, he didn't know. There's a few others. The barbershop thing. Barbershop thing. I mean, there's a whole series. He didn't know what, huh?
Starting point is 01:04:37 He didn't know Taco Tuesday was already a thing. Right. He thought he came up with it. He wanted to patent that trademark. Jesus. Taco. Yeah, it was trademark. Jesus. Taco. Yeah, it was awesome. And he's a,
Starting point is 01:04:48 Ty, you know, I'm sure he's a voracious reader. Big time. Yep. Those photos. He's read The Godfather like a thousand times. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:55 Yeah, people do hate him. Big book guy. Those blatant lies, people say. Every time he gets taken, you know, a photo gets taken of him with a book,
Starting point is 01:05:02 he's always on the first page. People love to point that out. people he's publicly letting his fans know if they would like to be a part of his book club now yeah this is the book we're starting today we are starting this book today you won't see it until we finish this thing we're doing this together that's what he's doing but i could see how once again the people will hate him hate him for what you just said and why I like him still. I'm like, I see it as this. I think you hate him, though. You're a hater.
Starting point is 01:05:28 I don't hate him. I used to hate him. Boston hates LeBron. I used to hate LeBron. I don't hate him anymore. I'm just pointing out all the things that people say on why they hate him. As a businessman, he owns the Red Sox now. That's right.
Starting point is 01:05:41 He's part of Fenway Sports Group. We got the GOAT. That's why the Sox are in first place right now. Oh, because he's the greatest of all time? Yeah! He's bringing that mentality, that prom-prom mentality to the Boston Red Sox. Let's go real hot take. If
Starting point is 01:05:55 LeBron wins this one, okay, with who he's gonna have to beat, how he's gonna have to beat, coming off of this ankle injury, and now he's potentially 17. By the way way year whatever 17 17 straight years 25 point average 18 year 18 i think right i think it's 17 straight i don't think you average 25 his first year i think is your 18 okay so 18th year still coming off of the bubble championship off of covid if he wins this year everybody has to say he's greatest of all time is that what has to happen
Starting point is 01:06:25 yes i think so he filmed a movie as well and he's space jam yeah they are the first seven seed to be favored over a two seed i believe to win a series ever in the history of the nba well that means they're doing it right over there for sure what are you um you know how does that i guess because he was hurt he was out yeah. Anthony Davis is coming back too. Only reason there's a seven seed. Yeah, the game disparity between like the seven seed to the three seed or whatever is like only a few games, so it does make sense. He does do stuff, though, that pisses people off.
Starting point is 01:06:56 Oh, yeah. I mean, people get very mad at LeBron, AJ. I mean, very mad at that guy. I wanted to ask the specific things because, like D-Butt said, I was in Ohio. I saw LeBron play in high school. He's one year younger than me, and the expectations were through the roof for this dude. And he has exceeded all the expectations on the court, and he hasn't gotten in trouble off the court, really.
Starting point is 01:07:15 So, yeah, what is it? Is it just a bunch of little things like that that he says and does? I think so, yeah. Just being around some haters of his. And I've never been around haters because I think everybody in the locker room's like uh what this dude's been able to do is impressive i think everybody that i've maybe was in my life on a regular basis and then you know you go back to pittsburgh and you go around some people and something happens i'm like oh okay and then immediately it's all fuck that guy i'm like what what did that guy what did that guy do and then
Starting point is 01:07:44 you start hearing it and then you'll get a text from that same friend or potentially when he does something else and like of course blah blah blah blah blah like that's it you just i start to hear and see why but i don't feel that way when you're on that level i mean you're gonna your haters are gonna grow as you grow you know so it's part of it part of it i'm sure you you know you get more haters every day. Oh, every day. More and more people learn that they despise me. I mean, it is.
Starting point is 01:08:11 Everything about me. Everything about me for some people just, you know, really gets them upset. Some people get really worked up about everything that I do. The face, you know, that's a problem for some people. The voice. The way I speak speak fuck that guy the way i dress oh they hate it the friends i have oh the people everything everything about it's cool but it's a i told uh orschlovsky this one day orschlovsky put out he looked like that whenever
Starting point is 01:08:40 you were friends with him at yukon by the the way. Oh, yeah. That photo that hit the internet. Oh, Dano, yeah. Dano! Dano! Hey, Zito, you should try to find that UConn photo or whatever. This thing made the... Did you see this, AJ? No, I haven't. No. It's a picture of Dan Orszolowski during his time in Connecticut.
Starting point is 01:08:57 Yeah, so it's no context college football account, and they just post random pictures from the history of college football. And it's just no context. they just post random pictures from the history of college and it's just no context they just posted this particular one was a team photo day dane or slavsky solo shot classic football neil hold ball face stare down to the camera and dan i'd assume it had to be freshman year there huh this had to be freshman year i assume this is freshman day he's tough. Hey, people forget Dan, best player in Connecticut. Hey, Dan was big time.
Starting point is 01:09:31 He put UConn on the map back in the day. I registered my freshman year, so I was his scout team corner. Did you guys play against each other? So you guys probably got along pretty well. That was my games. Those were my games going against him. How'd you do? Yeah, used to kill him. Really?'d you do? I used to kill him. Really? Oh yeah, I used to kill
Starting point is 01:09:48 Dan. True freshman. Buck 60 soaking wet out there picking shit off left and right. Getting cursed out by the OC Rob Ambrose. Shout out Coach Ambrose. Dude, hey, if he runs out, jump the out. Coach, Pac-Man not jumping his out route. That's your first round.
Starting point is 01:10:03 Number nine is not jumping his out route. I'm not jumping that shit. I'm getting a pick. That was Big East football with Pac. And also alongside Pac, a man at West Virginia was Chris Henry then. And Rasheed Marshall is quarterback, I assume, right? Is that the? That was in 2004.
Starting point is 01:10:19 So this was before Pat White. So whoever was right before Pat White. Probably Rasheed. And then, by the way, that guy's... I wasn't playing. I was practicing. No, but I'm saying when you say Pac-Man's not jumping on that, that West Virginia team, that Big East, that West Virginia team was very good at that team.
Starting point is 01:10:33 It was very cool to kind of follow them and watch the team that I was a part of just beat the dog shit out of UConn. Just beat... I was standing on the sideline. I wasn't doing much. I was not a part of this thing, but it felt like when we played UConn. Just beat. I was standing on the sideline. I wasn't doing much. Okay. I was not a part of this thing, but. At all.
Starting point is 01:10:47 It felt like when we played UConn. Extra points. Yeah. Extra points, man. A lot of those, dude. It was. I don't know why.
Starting point is 01:10:54 You guys had a good team. Donald Brown was almost a Heisman. Yeah. I don't know why. It just felt like we, for whatever reason, what we had, you guys
Starting point is 01:11:00 didn't. Yeah. For some reason, whenever you start to learn another school's fight song you know it's not going good shout out dan rolovsky you look good there uh let's get some phone calls shall we what's that dan yeah proud of shelter per source patrick mahomes is ahead of schedule in his rehab and will participate in the chiefs otas that start on may 25th the
Starting point is 01:11:24 thought right now is he will do some stuff and will then be fully ready to go for training camp this coming via james palmer at james palmer tv shout out patrick mahomes he posted a photo i think it was on easter yeah yeah i think it was on easter with his wife and baby and he had a boot on his leg clearly and i thought to myself okay is everything congratulations because i actually said congratulations all right is everything all right i completely forgot about his foot being injured from the season or whatever i had assumed that we were past that already but i guess it was only two months and some change after that the surgery happens now we're hearing he's back on track that's good for everybody everybody. Congrats to Patrick Mahomes getting through a tough rehab, I'd assume,
Starting point is 01:12:08 tough offseason, and trying to have a successful season with the target on your back for the rest of your career. So I think he's probably cut out for this thing. Yeah, I mean, like when we first saw this, you actually had like a back and forth with him, and it didn't seem like he was worried at all. He knew he was going to be ready to go. And it didn't seem like he was worried at all He knew he was going to be ready to go And I didn't think we should be worried at all
Starting point is 01:12:28 What kind of surgery did he have? Do you know? I don't remember Maybe plantar? It wasn't like the Liz Frank deal, right? No, I remember Was it like a sigmoid something? A sesamoid
Starting point is 01:12:40 It was a sesamoid in your foot Which is a ligament that holds your bones together I think It's broken So it's like a focal point I think you have a coupleamoid in your foot which is a ligament that holds your bones together i think is broken so it's like a focal point i think you have a couple of them in your foot uh because it's where the the things connected in your foot there's a lot of little parts there big ben's elbow yeah it's also a joint thing so a sesamoid was injured that was it yeah i completely forgot about that the old sesamoids man we had quite a science day that day. Oh, yeah. Big science day.
Starting point is 01:13:07 Big science day. We're like fucking smart. Sesamoid. I mean, that's a great word to begin with. I might use it tonight. Somebody's going to be attacking somebody's sesamoid. These sesamoids are everywhere. Darius.
Starting point is 01:13:18 Some fucking team doctors over here. What did Dak injure? That's all. He was supposed to be back here ready for training camp. That was a cramp. That was a big cramp. Dak Prescott? Yeah. That's all he's supposed to be back here ready for training cramp. That was a cramp Yeah, yeah, so he had you know he's bounced back though he got a bunch of water in his system Yeah, the crazy couple oranges worst cramps of all time there is she That was what they are referring to in an asshole manner and And they should not have done what they just did right there.
Starting point is 01:13:47 Tony Romo did diagnose that as a potential cramp whenever it originally happened. And to Tony Romo's credit, though, none of us knew what the hell was going on there. Now, I don't think anybody thought it was a cramp. Tony, I can see the bone sticking out of his leg. I don't think it's a cramp. Maybe, I can see the bone sticking out of his leg. I don't think it's a cramp. Maybe he had a cramp at the same time. Maybe Tony noticed his hammy was cramping too. Hey, let's not get distracted by that bone popping out there.
Starting point is 01:14:14 It looks like his calf is tightening. Hey, you see that ball? I've had one of those before. They're going to have to roll that out. Maybe roll it out with the shin action. A couple of feet down. All right, enough. Tony didn't deserve that.
Starting point is 01:14:26 I've said a lot of dumb things live. That's one of them. You know, that just so happened to be. But he got surgery done by the Cowboys Associated Doctor. He got rehabbed with a Cowboys Associated Rehab. And then he signed that monster deal. We're assuming, we don't know anything, right, AJ? I don't think we know anything.
Starting point is 01:14:43 But we, this show has taken a stance that we assume he'll be back. But that one video they showed, he kind of hobbled back out of that thing. But guys have, at the tail end of rehab, made massive steps quickly because it's kind of like things happening up. I don't know the fucking injury. I have no idea. He'll be back. Yeah, if they were, they probably would have brought Dalton
Starting point is 01:15:02 or someone else back in, right? Just to have a second option just in case. Andy dalton was commanded 14 mil a year or something that's true what did chicago pay him uh 10 right yeah he's a star you won i don't think andy wanted to stick around in dallas after his brains got spilled all over the turf and no one helped him up i think he was like you know what jerry it? It's been great, but I'm going to get the hell out of here. I'm from Texas. I'll be back down here. I'll end up being buried in the great state of Texas down here.
Starting point is 01:15:35 And Jerry, you and I both know we love this place, but I'm going to have PTSD every time I put on it. His team hates me. Why did they not help him up, AJ? What happened? I was hoping they didn't see it or something, i don't know man they saw film says that they seen him and walked right by him and he was dead down there that's tough dude maybe they maybe they thought like hey it's you know maybe it's a neck injury you don't want to touch him smart just like last night uh tavarez oh yeah oh man
Starting point is 01:16:00 he got kneed in the mouth after or in in the head after something. That was scary. Scary, scary, scary. I saw that shit. But hockey players are so tough. So tough. And hockey players are absurd. That's why you see, like, four teeth are probably missing in some of them. They run headers right into a wall that does not move, really. And then they just get up and skate off.
Starting point is 01:16:22 It's a very impressive toughness that is needed to be a hockey player. With that being said, last night it almost was a detriment because they were almost asking him to get up or whatever. And just like you just brought up or whoever just brought up about how on a field you're told, hey, you have no idea what could happen. Hockey's not like that. It's almost a part of the sport. Like, get up, let's go ahead and get out of here boys he got carted off though that was scary you
Starting point is 01:16:48 seen it you watch it live ever happened to you on a field any any of those moments ever happened um no just a had a bad knee actually against west virginia my senior year but um i never had to get carted off carted off i don't think how about i've seen it with teammates it's scary and even opponents it's just a scary kind of because we all know you're kind of one play away um playing that violent game so that was that was tough but with this so i saw do they have to like is it mandatory they have to fight after that something like that happens yeah it's like uh hey you gotta answer okay gotta you took our guy out i respect it now granted it was kind of a hit in an awkward type turn yeah it wasn't intentional But hockey's a big fuck you
Starting point is 01:17:25 Or fuck me no no fuck you guy They're big I like it hockey's big in that Huge there was actually Six people in the box after In the pens game No caps rangers Remember that In the pens game there was as well
Starting point is 01:17:40 Yeah but as soon as the game What's up Nick So last night Nick Foligno of the Leafs did fight Corey Perry who was the one who need Tavares in the head and it was accidentally a lot of people were not happy that he did it a lot of people were like Hey, look, it was an accident. He didn't mean to do it. They didn't really see the need for it Yeah, cuz I thought it was kind of an awkward, you know, and I'm hockey aficionado. I've been watching my whole life. But I don't know the ins and outs as much as I can because I can't skate,
Starting point is 01:18:08 to be honest. But it's one of those things where hockey, though, he just has to answer, right? I assume that's what – That's the code. That's what they always talk about. Have the fight go, Nick. You hear the code.
Starting point is 01:18:17 Go on the fight. That's it right there. If you heard a star player, you're going to have to answer the bell and you're going to have to fight for it. But that one, it was probably hard for the least players to see from the bench they probably didn't get the same like they didn't get the benefits seeing all the replays and everything but it was still like people weren't thrilled about that one in particular aj wants to know how the fight went uh not great you can watch it you can tell both guys were even kind of reluctant
Starting point is 01:18:39 to do it yeah perry didn't really want to do it. He just knew he had to. Hockey, though, you know, Sam was talking about this the other night while we were watching the game. It has all the sports combined, including boxing, right, which is pretty cool to think about. And I've said this. Hockey has done a tremendously terrible job. It's tremendous how bad they have done. Worst of all time.
Starting point is 01:19:06 It's tremendous how inept that league, the NHL, has been at promoting the game. Now, let's hope the ESPN and the Turner deal will change things. But Gary Bettman, the commissioner of the NHL, he should have been on every show before the NHL playoffs. And he should have been around going,
Starting point is 01:19:24 hey, listen, our sport, they're flying around faster than every other sport. You hear about these 4-2s. You hear about these 4-3s, 4-4s. These guys are on ice skates. They're going 2-5s, okay? These guys are flying around. There's fighting.
Starting point is 01:19:38 There's action. There's skill. There's talent. There's going to be drama, intensity. There's going to be everything. And with their mic'd up, by the way, these guys are like guys that you were pulling for. From small villages in Russia all the way to Finland and Canada,
Starting point is 01:19:53 and then there's American boys. And the way you could sell it is something very easy to do, and the NHL hasn't done it. What percentage of the NHL, like a ballpark, are like foreign players from like canada or russia so i thought there was a chance that the americans could die off in this whole thing because of how hard it is to become you have to like it's like you have to be willing to put your body through like just grueling pain you got to be skating at like 5 30
Starting point is 01:20:21 a.m you've got to toughen it up you got to do all this shit so i thought there was a chance that the people who potentially used to play hockey because it's expensive hockey super expensive hockey costs money to play here in america it does because there's ice time there's pads there's everything like that you have to pay for so it is a bit expensive i thought there was a chance that not as many americans would play because they would choose to do other things like i think that demo of kid who potentially would go into hockey because you i think it choose to do other things. I think that demo of Kidd, who potentially would go into hockey, because I think it has to do... I thought they would go elsewhere. It's not happening, by the way.
Starting point is 01:20:49 I think Americans getting into the league is actually growing at this point. Okay. I think. That could be... I could be completely wrong, but it's a very diverse league. I mean... Yeah. My first...
Starting point is 01:21:00 Well, I don't know if I would say it's a very diverse league. Country. Country. Oh, gosh. Country diverse. Yeah, but you're right, though. Just watching it. But my first spoke to it was a game.
Starting point is 01:21:09 A video game. NHL used to be like, EA Sports used to make it, I think. Oh, yeah? I used to love that game just for the fights. We used to go out our way to figure out how to get to a fight. But actually playing it in between the fights, it's fun. To be kind of further upon what you said there like when pk suban became like a big name for the nhl that was huge i thought like hey this
Starting point is 01:21:33 is a big deal like here's a guy who hopefully can make people think like okay i can make it too if i want to get in there and by the way i think that would have made the game a lot better i think it's just so difficult in america to really get in the old dinosaurs of the sport did what they did and tried to silence him and bury him, and he's been bounced around teams, and he just gets blackballed, for lack of a better term. Really? Why is that? Why is that?
Starting point is 01:21:55 Because he talks— Too loud, too much of a distraction, not a team guy. They just get labeled with these things, and it's just like it is in the NFL. You guys talk about it all the time. If you get labeled a distraction, it's really hard to come back from that see like that's bullshit yeah you know and I think that's something now in 2021 where I think a lot more of the world would be like oh that's clearly what is happening here you know I'm moving along because the guy was a player right absolute stud yeah he's one of the best in the league and he's he's declined slightly skill
Starting point is 01:22:20 wise but he's still a damn good player well and, and, hey, he was going out with Lindsey Vonn. Wasn't he engaged to her? So he was like a celebrity power couple, too. Yeah, when his career's done, he's going to be on TV, and it's going to be a great thing for the sport. Wow. By the way, just a little heads-up to the sport. Could have that now still.
Starting point is 01:22:37 Yeah. Make that happen. Could have that now. The hockey guy. Hey, oh, D-Bud. One NHL. Hockey, though, like, you hear some of the, like, Evgeny Malkin. This is just one guy who's on the Pens, the team that I am a fan of
Starting point is 01:22:52 and have been my entire life. This guy was drafted to the NHL, okay, out of Russia. Had to go into hiding because the Russian mob would have taken him and not let him go and would have, like, basically had to go into hiding, escape to America to play for the Penguins. Then they had to get his family out because his family. So his family comes over to Pittsburgh and then his family gets put on the Jumbotron. They're like the most famous couple in Pittsburgh, basically. And Gino has had this obviously storied career.
Starting point is 01:23:21 I think now he can go back. But for a while, he couldn't go back or do anything like that like there is so much shit in the nhl that you could market if you had just one ounce of like oh we should try to grow anywhere in a conversation i don't think they have that at all he got smuggled out in the middle of a game right wasn't that the story with malcolm to get him out i think yeah it's like right after a game in finland or sweden i can't remember the country exactly his team was playing and Yeah, it was like right after a game in Finland or Sweden. I can't remember the country exactly. His team was playing, and he basically just snuck away after the game, hid in a hotel, and then got flown out the next day.
Starting point is 01:23:51 Yeah, it was like real life. I thought they pulled him off the ice, and they were like, hey, we got to get on the plane right now. Hey, listen. We just put a tranquilizer on the guy that's watching. We have got to get out of here. Let's get to a break. Hey, by the way, Go's back to assist last night.
Starting point is 01:24:06 That a baby Gene. Islanders won when Geno wasn't playing. Hey, but the Penguins drafted him. Did they draft him knowing that they were going to have to smuggle him out? I believe there's kind of a knowledge of how things operate over there, I'd assume. This is how it's always been, you know. This song's called Putin Pucks In. And I believe that first name there has a pretty good say about what pucks get to go in.
Starting point is 01:24:28 You don't need to wear. Who's shooting where? I think there's pretty good. Who knows what it's like now, but it was definitely like that then. And then just like all the pond hockey, there's just so many stories that could potentially be told and they fuck it up. Now's the time they should be pushing it. I guess we'll do it for you. It's a good sport, too.
Starting point is 01:24:47 Especially if they want to grow the game. It's a fun sport. It is a fun sport to watch, right? It is a violent sport. Like you said, fast. A lot of speed, a lot of up and down. I like it. Teamwork.
Starting point is 01:24:56 The cardiovascular. Now, corners and... How hard is that? Is that... Go watch some of their training. They have some of their training docs. It looks like nothing I could do, boss. I assume you could do, but I could not figure it out.
Starting point is 01:25:13 I assume a lot of others couldn't either as well. Let's get to a break. On the other side, AJ, how about some phone calls, huh? Let's do it. I bet we have some people that have been waiting a long time. Some of the regulars on there still. Okay, so we got Kyle, Josh, Michael. I don't know if I'm allowed to say this name.
Starting point is 01:25:29 Spell it. Kwame? It's about top of your no smoke list. That's a great line, by the way. I'm going to use that on Smackdown tonight. A prophet once said. It's right after you say, welcome to the cock right peacock this is on fox though okay so that would be misconstrued well you could you got to reference the the pay-per-view
Starting point is 01:25:55 that you had on the cock only available yeah wrestlemania backlash was magical only available to be seen on the cock peacock butock. But tonight we will recap everything. Please do it. Please do it and see if Vince chimes in. Ginger Nick is on the phone. Oh, he typed it in. Yeah, if that's what he dubbed himself, you can call him that. I don't know how the Andy Dalton's feel about that whole thing.
Starting point is 01:26:18 My roommate, Reed. Huh? I love it. The Red Rocket. What do you mean? Yeah. I don't think it says Ginger Rocket, though. Ginger Jesus, though.
Starting point is 01:26:29 Well, gingers have no soul, they said on things. The ginger name, I think. I've never heard that. I thought that kind of has gone. People said that. Yeah, people said that for sure. I mean, I didn't say it to my roommate. My roommate, who was a redhead, Reed Williams. You probably, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:26:41 He's a good guy. Reed Williams, good guy. Farmer. Middle linebacker for West Virginia. Okay, linebacker. Yeah, red-headed guy. He had good red hair, but he's still red-headed. Good chicken.
Starting point is 01:26:50 What's that? He has good chicken. Yeah, he sells all the chickens, too, basically every. He's doing well with the chickens. Shout out. Shout out. Shout out. Hey, thanks for the chickens, Reed.
Starting point is 01:27:00 We eat them. Thank you, Reed. Everybody eats them, I think. Oh, yeah. His chickens are fucking, I think. Oh, yeah. His chickens are fucking everywhere, dude. Oh, yeah. But the chicken business I have learned is an interesting one. Yeah, fickle, correct?
Starting point is 01:27:11 It is a fickle business, yeah. It's like ass pennies. Well, I think it's not like ass pennies, and we will move on. This is the Pat McAfee Show. Friday, May. Why did you put that into Zito's life, AJ? Oh, I love it. You're welcome, Z.
Starting point is 01:27:27 Okay, that's the show. Thank you to everyone who listened, watched, all the guests that we had all week. If you haven't already, episode five of Mr. Friday Night and Evan Foxy Joint is available on youtube right now give you a little behind the scenes look at um what goes into these weeks you know from indy to tampa and everything in between they're a lot of fun and also make sure you tweet hashtag end of pod squad send a picture to us let us know uh what you're doing while you're listening to the podcast we'll be giving out some money to uh to people who send that hashtag in we appreciate the hell out of all you guys have a fantastic weekend we'll see you on monday cheers

There aren't comments yet for this episode. Click on any sentence in the transcript to leave a comment.