The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 423 - Adam Vinatieri Officially Retires On The Show, Ian Rapoport, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: May 26, 2021

On today's show, Pat and the boys chat about The Match 2 that will see Tom Brady and Phil Mickelson take on Aaron Rodgers and Bryson Dechambeau, Aaron is currently still living his best life in Hawaii..., and everything else happening in the sports world with the NBA and NHL playoffs. Joining the program is 4x Super Bowl champion, the All-Time leading points scorer in NFL history, the GOAT, Adam Vinatieri, to chat with Pat and AJ about his career, what it was like playing for Bill, and ultimately, to officially announce his retirement from the NFL (39:51-59:02). Later, NFL Network Insider Ian Rapoport joins the show to chat about everything going on around the NFL including any new news about Aaron Rodgers' situation, and why Rapsheet thinks the door is still open for him to return to Green Bay, the Julio Jones situation and whether or not he knew he was live on Undisputed, as well as other tidbits of news popping up around the league as we are officially into OTA's (1:03:00-1:24:57). Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow and listen every day on Mad Dog Radio, Sirius XM Channel 82. We appreciate you all for listening, come and laugh with us, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello! Wednesday, May 26th. Massive news on today's show, plus conversation and reaction to everything. Can't thank you enough for choosing to join us. If you enjoy the show, by the end of it, please be a friend, tell a friend. If not, just act like this never happened. Let's get into the massive show, shall we here? Aaron Rodgers is back in action! Yep. Aaron Rodgers is back in action. Yep. Singing Taylor Swift alongside Miles Teller and his lady in Hawaii with Shailene Woodley jumping off waterfalls.
Starting point is 00:00:31 And it has officially been playing the guitar, singing songs, having a good time out in Hawaii, enjoying the off-season a little bit with his, you know, I believe Kelly. Kelly. Kaylee, I think. Kaylee Teller, who is Miles' wife, has documented a lot of this stuff. They seem like an incredibly cool group of people. They said we're here with soulmates in Hawaii.
Starting point is 00:00:52 I think he's living his best life right now, and it has been announced. As of this morning, he and Bryson DeChambeau will be battling against Tom Brady and Phil Mickelson July 6th somewhere in Montana. Big Sky Country. Bleacher Report and Capital One have another match for Tom and Phil. I'm pumped.
Starting point is 00:01:17 I'm pumped about this. We are going to attempt to try to get in the area of Montana. Mostly because I've heard nothing but amazing things about Montana. And in the middle of July there's not much to talk about. So if this is going on, guess what? This might as well be the fucking Super Bowl for this show. Can I wait to chat about that? Then watch what's going on. By then, I would assume a lot of things have unfolded with Aaron and the Packers. How will that go? We will keep an eye out for you. That June 1 date, by the way, everybody thinks is very important, not just for Aaron, but also for Julio and some
Starting point is 00:01:46 other moves. That'll be massive for us, but in July, ha, America's birthday happens, and then it's kind of a waiting game. Let's hope Otani throws perfect games every night and hits home runs every single night. He might. He just hit another one last night, by the way. Greatest
Starting point is 00:02:02 baseball player of all time. But that's going to be awesome. I'm excited they got that done. uh excited to see if tom plays a little bit better this time yeah remember last year he was going into a new team didn't have that much time to golf especially with the covet era and he had one incredible moment from the golf course when he chipped in from like 200 out didn't showcase his best golf i think he's excited to get back out there with phil phil by way, coming off the biggest weekend of his life where he outdrove a person 20 years younger than him
Starting point is 00:02:29 by 16 yards or something like that, or 50 yards, 16th hole, going in to win the PGA Championship at the age of 50. I mean, Phil Mickelson is living his best life. Aaron's living his best life. DeChambeau and Brooks are having an amazing time. Tom, this is
Starting point is 00:02:45 four guys having the time of their lives going out on the golf course and battling. Cannot wait to watch it. There's also a massive game six tonight in the NHL playoffs. Last night, Bron Bron
Starting point is 00:03:01 got a win. That game ended around 2 a.m. Shout out to Turner and everybody just saying, you know what, Bron, you're win. That game ended around 2 a.m. Shout out to Turner and everybody just saying, you know what, Bron, you're right. It isn't fair for the left coast to have to play at 4 o'clock their time so that the east coast folks can watch it and enjoy it at a time and then go to bed. There is an east coast bias.
Starting point is 00:03:18 LeBron, let's change that. You're a guy that we would have you play 7.30 your time. Hey, everybody else can eat shit. 10.30 at night, but guess what? We're up, we're watching, we're enjoying, and I like it. It's almost like the Pac-12 games that are on late at night. It's almost, I would assume the NBA is potentially seeing good numbers.
Starting point is 00:03:37 When I was a kid, I used to watch Lakers games at night, whenever Kobe and Shaq, because it was on late night. I actually have enjoyed staying up. Now, it sucks in the morning, but watching that game last night in the fourth quarter when they needed it, zero brawn 30 or whatever the fuck he calls himself in the playoffs, seemed to remember like, hey, this is the playoffs. Like, hey, I was at Mr. Loverboy and I's tequila party
Starting point is 00:04:02 the same goddamn day as the first playoff game acting as if this is a regular season it's almost like LeBron was reminded after losing and being disinterested in in game one which has happened numerous times before he was reminded like hey this is the playoffs he's head to head with Colwell but I want you to shoot okay Anthony Davis is making shots I mean it feels like they potentially You know were woken up and told Like hey this is the fucking All that other stuff we did all year
Starting point is 00:04:30 Not worth a damn this is the only thing that matters Let's go ahead and do this thing And old Jenner's boyfriend He's a great ball player Feels like they're starting to bully him a little bit That's going to probably be something that old AD Bron Bron and them are going to go He's a hell of a player. Chris Paul was hurt.
Starting point is 00:04:46 I don't know what happened to him. He tried to bust Bron's arm, and he hurt himself trying to take off the Bron's arm in game one. We're not sure, but I enjoyed that last night. I'm happy the Lakers are back. The Clippers are dead. And by the way, it doesn't matter what's going on in the West anyways. There's an all-star team in the East
Starting point is 00:05:01 who put up 71 points in the first half of a playoff game against the Boston Celtics, who have a pretty good team. That team, it's going to be tough to beat. That team is going to make rosters realign. That team is going to make free agents do different things. That team in Brooklyn will never, from what I've been told, ever be the team of New York City. That's what I've been told, that they will never, ever be the team of New York City.
Starting point is 00:05:26 The Knicks, like the reason why Madison Square Garden was the way it was and Barclays Center couldn't sell out all their tickets is because the Knicks are New York City's team. Like this is how it is. And I said, what if the Nets win like five straight, four straight, three straight? Well, that doesn't matter. We'll never be it. So I think the Nets are becoming more of like a national team. Like we're all starting to like, okay, I enjoy what they're doing now.
Starting point is 00:05:48 Basketball purists and people that are sport enthusiasts and love the competition. Oh, they're buying a team. They're putting it together. Welcome to the NBA. We don't necessarily love it, but it's the reality. It's what you got to do. Let's hope Zion now gets recruited to another team. Okay, let's hope Zion gets recruited out to LA, you know.
Starting point is 00:06:04 Anthony Davis is like, hey, I've been there, done that with New Orleans. Come on over here. We win championships and get Rolls Royces over here. And maybe I didn't work at all this past offseason because I did get championship, got the money, got the Rolls Royce, and maybe it is a little bit of a slow roll. Anthony Davis had to hit a three late last night. Buried a three late last night. Anthony Davis had to have a swat late last night.
Starting point is 00:06:24 Anthony Davis had a swat last night. I think they're going to run into a potential ammunition problem against the Nets. I think that's going to happen. This is what's happening in the NFL, by the way. People are running into teams that have five wide 4-2-40s, premier wide receivers, and you don't have enough to keep up. It feels like that's the NBA in a nutshell,
Starting point is 00:06:43 and the Nets have three guys on their team that are just unbelievable at basketball. Well, we don't know if they'll be able to gel together, said everybody. It's like, basketball, you don't really have to, right? I mean, you don't really have to gel. Nope. It's like a react type thing, isn't it? Yeah. Like the triangle offense, everybody talks about the triangle offense
Starting point is 00:07:00 being so successful, but triangle offense, if you learn it and know it, it's all reactionary. And I would assume that there's most basketball strategy is reactionary. Kevin Durant, James Harden, Kyrie Irving, they're going to figure it out. Plus, they got fucking Blake Griffin who paid $13 million to get out of Detroit. I mean, it is. That team's a lot of fun to watch. The NBA playoffs, though, pale in comparison to the NHL playoffs.
Starting point is 00:07:22 Here we go. Okay. The NHL playoffs, and the reason why I'm going to talk about this in a fashion I'm talking about it, because, you know, last year I only got like two weeks worth of NHL playoffs. Real bummer. Because the Pittsburgh Penguins actually got swept. So it was actually like a week. They got swept 4-0 right out of the bubble.
Starting point is 00:07:42 See you later. Before the season could even start, the Penguins were sent out of the fucking bubble. Now, they were still invited to the bubble up there in Canada, which is awesome. And, you know, a show of respect for Hockey Town. And there are some teams like the Detroit Red Wings. Was that? I mean, you didn't have to do this. There were some teams.
Starting point is 00:08:00 Yeah, you did. You got a big game tonight. You don't have to worry about the Red Wings today, Pat. I'm painting a whole picture, Fox. Okay? I'm painting an whole picture, Fox. Okay? I'm painting an entire picture so everybody can understand this. The Pittsburgh Penguins last year were invited to the bubble. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:12 The Red Wings and other teams were not. Nope. Oh, no. It was a select group. And just like the NBA bubble where they added some spots in that bubble to get Zion into the bubble. And they didn't make it this year for whatever reason. We need Zion in the playoffs, by the way, at least in a play-in game. The Celtics are in the fucking playoffs, and they lost.
Starting point is 00:08:30 They gave up 71 points in a day. What's that? We were just talking about the Brooklyn Knights being one of the greatest teams of all time. Don't bury the Celtics while you're putting up the net. So the bubble for the hockey, there was no way Sidney Crosby and the boys weren't going to be in that bubble. There's no way the Pittsburgh Penguins weren't going to be in that bubble. And when
Starting point is 00:08:46 they get in the bubble, I'm excited. I'm, I'm pumped. Here we go. We're going to win another Stanley cup because you know, I hadn't done enough research on our roster. You know, I hadn't done enough research on the team, the style of play, mostly because COVID was around and nobody knew what the fuck we're going to get on the other side of it. We got swept. See you later. Get out. So this year, obviously following along with the Penguins. Watch first couple games. Kind of keep track via social media because out here in Indianapolis, they refuse to play any hockey games, which
Starting point is 00:09:12 is a massive part of my anger with the NHL because if I want to watch Sidney Crosby, the greatest hockey player of all time in Indianapolis where there isn't an NHL team, I should be very easily able to get to a game to watch this guy play. The NHL has done a terrible job. I've talked about this over,
Starting point is 00:09:30 you know, probably years at this point, but a lot more people are listening now. The NHL has done a terrible job of marketing the game. That's just something from, coming from hockey time, a place with a team that would get invited to any NHL tournament at any time, if the Penguins were rated too low for that bubble, they would have made that bubble big enough to fit the entire fucking league to get Sidney Crosby in there. The NHL would have done that to get the Penguins in there. They didn't invite the Red Wings.
Starting point is 00:09:58 Left them out. It's because they stink. Anyways. Stink. The team we have this year was a team that I thought, hey, we're going to go. There's this Tanev guy. He's got this long hair. He's fast as fuck.
Starting point is 00:10:11 We need speed, actually. We're kind of getting a little bit older. We got the studs. Sidney, obviously, greatest of all time. And Evgeny Malkin. We got these players that are up there. Letang has been around. He's been at it.
Starting point is 00:10:21 Letang has his Letang moments, but Letang is a stud. Gensel, I mean, Rusty, it felt like, and old Jeff Carter, whatever the fuck his name is, he turned the puck over,
Starting point is 00:10:32 right, the blue line, in the third period, as if he was just, he was tired, they said. Well, fuck,
Starting point is 00:10:37 dump it in then, Jeff. Jeff won us a game, just a couple of nights ago, so we had a good roster, this Jari character, who started out terrible, and then got hot, and now we're in the NHL playoffs. Here we go. This is when hockey gets awesome. This is when it is the best time to be a hockey fan. This is when every other
Starting point is 00:10:57 sport should watch what the NHL does and go, man, every night it is electric. There's overtimes, there's high speed, there's action, there's skill, there's grace. And at this particular time, there's terrible goaltender play out of the fucking Pittsburgh Penguins and Tristan Charles. So tonight, game six, Coliseum there against the Islanders.
Starting point is 00:11:19 You know, this could have been a bye-bye Coliseum. Get the fuck out of the NHL night. But instead, since our goalie forgot how to play goalie for the sport of hockey in the second overtime of a playoff game and passed it right to the Islanders, here we sit staring down potential elimination. And elimination doesn't just mean the Penguins, greatest team of all time, don't win another Stanley Cup. Doesn't just mean the Penguins, greatest team of all time,
Starting point is 00:11:44 don't win another Stanley Cup. And that Lord Stanley, post-COVID, doesn't then get a chance to waltz down the south side of Pittsburgh, bar to bar, getting bonged and chugged all around Pittsburgh. A magical moment. Lord Stanley has come back home. We beat COVID. Here we go. That is potentially gone after tonight, okay?
Starting point is 00:12:09 here we go that that is potentially gone after tonight okay but also i'm afraid that i won't watch another hockey game nope and that means that the greatest thing in sports outside of football okay this is the aside from that we are aside from the nfl the greatest thing in sports i will not get to enjoy past six games of the first round, and I just can't fathom that happening to me right now. So I'm thinking the Pens win by seven to eight goals tonight. Okay. Okay. I'm thinking Jari, definitely a fucking shutout. That guy knows what he did at the end of that game.
Starting point is 00:12:36 He had to walk back into that dressing room, stare at all the boys. Hey, boys. Hey, hey. Sorry I passed it to him there. Fucked up, boys. Hey, boys. They fucked it up. Hey, it was a one-timer, I thought.
Starting point is 00:12:45 Next game, boys. Hey, sorry, boys. And everybody. Hey, it was a one-timer, I thought. Next game, boys. Hey, sorry, boys. And everybody's like, fuck you, Jari. One too many times. We want Maxime Legacy to go in, our third-string goalie, consummate third-string guy who's 28 years old. But they're saying, no, put you back out there tonight. He pitches a shutout.
Starting point is 00:12:57 Pens win by eight. That thing comes back to PPG. And it's Pens at seven. Let's go. Or I fucking riot over to the Pittsburgh Penguins facility. Big game tonight, though. Big one. Huge game.
Starting point is 00:13:10 Can't wait. Let's enjoy this thing tonight. This might be the last time this entire show talks about hockey. I mean, the Bruins might be in there. Connor will try to shoehorn it in there. Absolutely. But I will obviously not pay attention to that because hockey already crashes the ratings, and it's for a team that I care about.
Starting point is 00:13:24 And it's also a team that has the goat on it and it still doesn't matter. And I actually have some information on it. It's going to be tough for me to talk about the fucking avalanche. I don't watch the avalanche. Not going to watch the avalanche. I love NHL playoff hockey, but if I don't have a team in there,
Starting point is 00:13:40 I don't have a horse in the race, I ain't going to fucking watch the race. That's just not going to happen. Especially if the Bruins go on to win anything at all, I will just not watch out of spite of this entire thing. Can't do it. Probably pretty smart. I'm pulling for the Pens because I want
Starting point is 00:13:55 that Bees-Pens series, and that's why it's so devastating to tell you that the Penguins are probably going to lose by 15 in that five minutes. Strictly because Jari does not know how to play goalie, and it seems as though Sidney Crosby might be a little banged up if he's skipping shifts. That's at Boston, Connor.
Starting point is 00:14:10 He was skipping shifts last game. And by the way, I was the only person, I think, that talked about the NHL who noticed that he was skipping shifts strictly because I am probably one of his biggest fans on earth. And as soon as he gets on, even when he isn't around the puck, like I want to watch what he's doing. I want to watch what he's doing i want to watch what he's what is sydney doing mostly because i feel like i can learn the game of hockey best by watching the best player and just see what he does so it's like the away from the puck type stuff like i've enjoyed learning about hockey via watching sydney
Starting point is 00:14:39 crosby in that last game it was like is this guy what's going on he's not even out where is he and he was he was missing shifts. What the hell happened? Do we know anything? He might have a broken spine from carrying that fucking organization for the last 10 years. It does stink. And what you're leaving out here as well is if the Penguins get bouncing around one, it is time to move on from Pittsburgh being hockey time.
Starting point is 00:14:59 They are not hockey time anymore. Are you nervous Sid's going to leave town after this year if they lose tonight? No, no. Then you guys maybe turn into what Detroit has been for the last couple years. No, no. The last couple years, yeah. And then no one's going to be calling it hockey time anymore. It's just going to be Pittsburgh.
Starting point is 00:15:13 It will always be hockey time. They're probably going to sell the team because they tried to do that like 20 years ago or so. Now listen. It ain't hard. Are you nervous? We had a hell of a run, okay? We had a hell of a run. We had a hell of a run, okay?
Starting point is 00:15:30 We had a hell of a run with Mary Lou Mew, Yarmour Yager, Ronnie Francis, and the boys. Okay? The starter jacket with the triangle, with the penguin. Good times. Couldn't tell me fucking nothing, okay? I was moving cigs in that starter jacket. In their front pockets. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:15:50 That thing was, now I will say, not me obviously, in the Penguins, the reason why I was such a diehard Penguins fan is because I got to go to Penguins games. Pittsburgh Steelers season tickets, you're never going to be able to get in there. The price is just absurd. You're never going to be able to get in there. We were able to go to Penn's games and watch. I have been in the nosebleeds of the igloo way back in the day, the one that got imploded before the PPG Paints Arena was built,
Starting point is 00:16:15 which is a fine establishment, but it ain't the igloo. I had sat in the nosebleeds and watched the boys decorate nets from front to back. It was something that I enjoyed immensely. And I do believe the city maybe did turn a little bit against the Penguins, you know, because the Steelers continued to do their thing. And the Pirates, they stunk always. But there was a time maybe in between that particular team and then getting the first overall pick in like three straight drafts,
Starting point is 00:16:42 which is awesome, by the way, absolutely awesome. We drafted one guy who couldn't even play for a year because the fucking Russian mob had held him up. By the way, absolutely awesome. We draft one guy. Couldn't even play for a year. Cause the fucking Russian mob at Elm up. Now, you know, him as if Kenny Malcolm, he'll score tonight. We will win.
Starting point is 00:16:51 That's boosted to plus 500 on FanDuel. Okay. Yeah. So, I mean, there was a time where it was dreary days, but don't ever think that it was because of the fans. No,
Starting point is 00:17:00 no, this was because of ownership at the time. This was a Kraus type situation. Then Mario Lemieux said, Hey, we ain't going anywhere. Buys into the team, rebuilds it, and we've always been there. We ain't ever going to be the Red Wings, pal. All right? That ain't ever going to happen.
Starting point is 00:17:13 Listen, hey, I'm pulling for you guys tonight. I want this show to continue to talk about hockey because I know Hockey Town is on its way back. This next five years is going to be run, the NHL run through Detroit. Okay. We'll be waiting. That's wrong. We'll be waiting. going to be run, the NHL run through Detroit. Okay. We'll be waiting. That's wrong. We'll be waiting. The AHL maybe.
Starting point is 00:17:31 You guys weren't even invited to the tournament last year. We didn't want to go to the COVID Cup. We only played for Stanley Cup. What about this year? Huh? What about this year, Foxy? We're loading up. We're going to save hockey. It doesn't matter.
Starting point is 00:17:38 Okay, we're not. Listen, I understand that you have to, like, kind of baby face for the Red Wings right now because I kind of bury them on a regular basis, but it's true. I mean, the team stinks. We're a hockey town. Well, you're not going to be a hockey town if you lose in the first round again.
Starting point is 00:17:52 It'll be coming back home to Boston. It'll be hockey time. It's never going to happen. No. It's not hockey time. Exactly. Now you know what I'm saying. No, that ain't happening, dude.
Starting point is 00:18:01 It's going to take more than one cup in 20 years to take that crown, pal. Talking about you. We won one in 2012, so it would have been two in 10. Talking about you, pal. Yeah, two in 10 years? Okay, I think that warrants it. God, I just don't know. I mean, the whole place is falling apart.
Starting point is 00:18:16 Good Lord. You know what I mean? I mean, my goddamn pack here. It's just the issue is, you know, and I feel like I'm an eternal optimist when it comes to this Penguins team. Sure. Absolutely. More than anybody else. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:18:31 Because I only do get a chance to really see them when they're in the playoffs. Yeah, when it matters. Hey, we're in the playoffs. Play the hits. We're in the dance. Here we go. We're going to win. This is what the Penguins do because for a large portion of my life, that is, all the Pens do is fucking win. Now, if you are from Hockey Town, your parents probably got a chance to experience that.
Starting point is 00:18:55 Back whenever there was no face masks on goalies and whenever they could barely. I don't even know if there was. Well, there was no salary cap and you could just buy up every Hall of Famer in the league, put them on your team, play third line, doesn't matter. Brett Hall, one of the greatest goal scorers of all time. Yeah, you're playing third line, don't matter. Listen, by the way, I don't mind that, okay? I don't mind people that are spending money to win, okay?
Starting point is 00:19:16 I'm a big fan of that. But Pittsburgh is a hockey winning town. It wins. It is a popular sport in hockey because the Penguins win. And if it's back-to-back first-round exits when it fucking matters, I'm going to lose my marbles. It would actually be three years in a row. Oh, no!
Starting point is 00:19:37 Listen, if the Pens get bounced, I mean, math is waiting with open arms in Vegas. Friend of the program. I mean, listen, Stoner and the boys are hot. I don't know how many times I have to say it. They're winning tonight. Who? Vegas?
Starting point is 00:19:52 Yeah. Yeah, that is interesting. Wouldn't you want to celebrate the first championship in the franchise's history? It's very interesting because we get to watch Jari do Jari stuff, and then Maff is on immediately afterwards. And it's like, oh, that guy's best friends with Sidney Crosby grew up in the same goddamn town. That guy right there led us to a couple of Stanley Cups. Now he got run out of town, obviously, because there was a younger, better version of him in everybody's eyes.
Starting point is 00:20:14 But still doing it. It is tough with those West games happening right afterwards. It's late. It's very late. It's like, because you got Braun last night. Exactly. Now you got Marc-Andre Fleury tonight. But Ty makes a great point.
Starting point is 00:20:27 As soon as the Penguins get bounced, I will jump ship over to Vegas and become a huge Vegas Golden Knights fan. Probably bigger than Ty. It's fucking, hey, whoa, easy, pal. Easy, pal. Get in line. I'm still waiting for my season tickets. Get in line.
Starting point is 00:20:40 You know? Who bought those? All the sports books out there? I don't know. I mean, T-Mobile Arena is rocking every week. All right. Let's talk about rocking. Who bought those? All the sports books out there? I don't know. I mean, T-Mobile Arena is rocking every week. All right, let's talk about rocking. There was some news that came out. By the way, let's go to Penn's tonight.
Starting point is 00:20:53 Yeah. Come on, Penn. It's a jersey Nick and Phil got me for my 30th birthday. I figured I'd bring it out because the season might be over. I hope it isn't. You better put that thing on and get in between the pipes if you don't want the season to be over. I don't think I'd pass a lot of the tests
Starting point is 00:21:08 that they're currently giving, but I could fucking... I got a good glove hand. And that's where the Islanders have been shooting. I think Jari bounces back. I do believe the Pens win tonight, but inevitably I don't know if we got the... It's okay. I don't know if we got the team to win the Stanley Cup.
Starting point is 00:21:27 Oh, no. You ain't getting by the beast. I don't know if we got it. Sorry. Getting a little long in the tooth. It's not that. It's just they were so good for so long, this team, and then they lost all their toughness.
Starting point is 00:21:43 You send Phil Kessel out of fucking town, all right? What are you talking about? And listen, that guy loves hot dogs, and he's tough all their toughness. You send Phil Kessel out of fucking town, right? What are you doing? And listen, that guy loves hot dogs and he's tough and everything like that. Crazy hair. I'm not saying he's the toughest guy of all time, but that gives you at least a little grit, you know? He's a warrior. And that kind of spreads throughout the entire thing.
Starting point is 00:21:58 We get bullied out there by this Islanders, and we've been getting bullied. Now, we are the pests, but, you know, normally you want one, maybe two pests on the team. You know, and then let the big fish handle the things. And then you got the pests that are kind of stirring up the shit. You know what I mean? Just gotta protect Sid.
Starting point is 00:22:15 And then, yeah, but we have all... We ain't got no fucking big fish. We have all pests. Yeah, yeah. Not great. All right? Because you have to have at least one. Geno could be our guy.
Starting point is 00:22:24 And by the way, you shouldn't be asking Geno. Probably top six hockey player of all time, if I had to guess. Top six, top seven hockey player of all time. I mean, I'm not going to get into the list. Just know that he's in my top eight, bro. You're literally saying you have a bunch of Necton, but no Sharks in there. Well, that is, I think that Necton is a mentality that B.J. Fleck asks his players to have,
Starting point is 00:22:48 that they're always hungry. And I'm not 100% sure if there's any sharks in there or any Necton mentality. Geno's no tuna. No, he ain't catfish either, though. You know what I mean? He ain't a sucker. He's a swordfish, maybe.
Starting point is 00:23:06 He's fucking large mouth bass. Okay. Solid fish. Ain't winning no cups, though. It's definitely better than an octopus up there in Detroit, though. We haven't seen that in years. When was the last time that happened? Speaking of fish, but you're right.
Starting point is 00:23:20 I don't know if we have a team to win the Stanley Cup. I mean, a lot of things are going to have to happen. Jarry's going to have to be better than he's ever been in his entire life, every single game, for every single time. It's like in hockey, if you don't know hockey that well, the goalie is playoff necessity. If your goalie gets hot, because in the season they take breaks, they play like a game or two games and they're off. In the playoffs, if a goalie gets hot, because in the season they take breaks. They play like a game or two games and they're off.
Starting point is 00:23:46 In the playoffs, if a goalie gets hot, you just send them out there. And it becomes like a household name because of how important it is. In every playoff game, not every game, there's blowouts obviously, but 90% of NHL games are goal differential overtime. So if your goalie is a stud, it's just like defense in the NFL. You can tell at the end of the season which defense is a Super Bowl-ready defense. The Tampa Bay Buccaneers,
Starting point is 00:24:13 I thought it was going to be the Saints defense for a long time. I actually said, hey, Saints have the offense, but they also have a defense that could go in a Super Bowl run. Now, they had a lot with Drew's injury and everything like that, and their defense could have done it.
Starting point is 00:24:24 But if you watch the Tampa Bay Buccaneers defense towards the end of that season last year, especially during the playoff run, on a Super Bowl run. Now, they had a lot with Drew's injury and everything like that, and their defense could have done it. But if you watch the Tampa Bay Buccaneers' defense towards the end of that season last year, especially during the playoff run, it was, they were fucking unbelievable to watch. A goalie's a lot like that. If a goalie gets hot, he can win you a cup all by himself, basically. That's why Matt Murray replaced Marc-Andre Fleury,
Starting point is 00:24:40 and Marc-Andre Fleury goes to Vegas as an expansion roster guy, one of the first picks, I think because we had another goalie who had just taken over a playoff series and want to stay in the cup. It's like, Oh, we got a guy.
Starting point is 00:24:51 We got Andrew Luck. See you later, Peyton. We're good here. This go turns out that guy did have a hell of a fucking run. Okay. Yeah. But once somehow something happened,
Starting point is 00:25:00 maybe it was something he ate. Maybe it's something that he like came across and, and like sniffed or something he just forgot how to use his glove that guy just just completely every game just completely then he gets shipped out of town who knows how he's doing now we got this guy he gets hot he gets hot and then something it's a very in between years thing you forget how to do stuff it's it's it's game hockey yeah put in. I don't know if Legacy's the guy either. But he is undefeated this season.
Starting point is 00:25:28 He's got a shutout, too. With a shutout. He ain't never seen a goal go in as a member of the Pittsburgh Penguins. He's rolling right now. But let's talk about something else. Madison Square Garden for the Rangers. Awesome environment. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:43 Coliseum for the New York Islanders. Awesome environment. Yeah. Coliseum for the New York Islanders, awesome environment. Madison Square Garden for the New York Knicks, incredible environment. There's been a lot of places that have been packed out that we have gotten a chance to, you know, go back to when it felt like the world was normal. We got a chance to go back to a time before the entire world stopped. And there was a lot of questions and conversations. Will people want to go back into stadiums again? Will people want to go back into large groups again? Because it takes 20 days to start a habit. People are locked down for 10 months, 12 months, 13 months, depending upon where you lived a different amount
Starting point is 00:26:22 of time or you just stayed home, stayed a lot more social media interactions a lot more isolations which led to you know a lot of potential mental health issues as well and with what we learned quickly about the spread of you know germs and potential diseases and viruses and where new handshakes and the dap was potentially going to be gone forever a lot of people wondered will people still want to get back into stadiums will the experience of sports in front of a gladiator like atmosphere ever return and we're learning very quickly yeah oh yeah yeah it will as soon as there was an opportunity to get in that texas rangers stadium 40 000 people probably not even baseball fans that was sold out immediately over there in jacksonville when in UFC, that thing was packed all the way to the roof. Do whatever you want to do.
Starting point is 00:27:08 Now we're getting a chance to see it in the NBA, in the biggest city, in the biggest market, in the place that was the hot spot for America for a long time. They're packed out. And now it is being reported that 30 of the 32 NFL teams have given a full systems go to full capacity stadiums this season. Feels like we beat COVID. I'm pumped up for this. Obviously, the crowd getting pumped in via the TV and some places having a few or a percentage of people in there. You got to do
Starting point is 00:27:43 what you got to do during the time. But I think all owners in the NFL were pumped to potentially get their fans, the people that are the backbone for their organization, the people that provide everything that you possibly need, whether it's watching, which is the largest. Like when somebody says, I bought a ticket. I paid your salary. It's like, nah, you didn't.
Starting point is 00:28:02 Okay, my salary comes from the TV, but those motherfuckers still have to watch. The ratings still have to be there. They still have to shop from the advertisers. The backbone of every business is their fans. The fact, well, entertainment business, you get it, and football is entertainment, but getting their fans back into the stadiums,
Starting point is 00:28:17 they couldn't wait to make that announcement. Roger Goodell said that at a press conference like two months ago. Hey, I think we're going to have full stadiums this fall as this thing is continuing to unfold and more is kind of learned as we go. I think we're fucking all the way back. Very fascinating, though, in this James Palmer tweet.
Starting point is 00:28:35 The 30 of the 32 NFL teams have agreed to full capacity. Tom Pellicero, I'm sorry, Tom. The only two teams that haven't are the Denver Broncos and the Indianapolis Colts. Oh, jeez. So you're telling me, okay, the Los Angeles Rams, Los Angeles Chargers, San Francisco, which is also the Santa Clara 49ers, who got kicked out of their stadium last season. They've all said, yeah, we're good to go. Okay, we're good to go for full stadiums.
Starting point is 00:29:07 The Buffalo Bills, New York's only team. People forget that that is the only team that is in New York State lines. They're good to go. The New Jersey teams, the New York Giants and Jets, they're good to go. Minnesota Vikings, they're good to go. A lot of the teams that you would expect in cities that you would expect to potentially be slower in rolling out maybe a different protocol than everywhere else, and we all saw who was doing what and who wasn't doing what.
Starting point is 00:29:33 But when you start thinking about it in that fashion with what the protocols are and everything like that, the Denver Broncos make sense. Denver is a city, I think, that is always. Indianapolis Colts though that one's very interesting this fucking guy all right this mayor all right now I'm sure he's a nice he's not actually I have no idea I don't know him but how are the Indianapolis Colts on this thing there's going to be 137,000 people at the Indy 500 this weekend and that's because the Indy 500 has enough space to kind of separate and everything like that imagine if Indianapolis had the same rules that Madison Square Garden has in New York City
Starting point is 00:30:11 I would assume they'd be able to have 200 300,000 people at this Indy 500 oh yeah the fact that the Indianapolis Colts are one of the only two teams to not come out and be able to say we are going to have full capacity because of local governance I would assume we've gotten a chance to witness here firsthand if you haven't just know like a lot of my friends lost their companies that have just worked their asses off and everywhere else it seems to not be happening but this guy's fucking hero over here which we we do appreciate i do i understand it's not an easy job i don't think it's an easy job at all but when you talk about 30 of 32 teams in this city being this city this city is built to host people. This city is literally designed to be hospitable.
Starting point is 00:30:51 And for whatever reason, we're one of the cities that is saying, no, we haven't run our tests yet. We'll see how this whole thing goes. But this is exciting for everybody else, at least at this point. Yeah, fired up. I can't believe, I mean, New England. I thought Massachusetts, I didn't think the Patriots were going to fire it up. I can't believe – I mean, New England. I thought Massachusetts. I didn't think the Patriots were going to be full capacity.
Starting point is 00:31:07 I figured they'd be one of those 32. I have no clue why your team out here is like people in that goddamn stadium. No, it's not my team. All right? My team is you guys. All right? Hell yeah. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:31:21 We have abided by the protocols. We are very lucky to be able to abide with the way we had it built with walls and the spacing that we have a lot of people said this office is way too big for us they didn't know i had no idea they didn't know pandemic ready it was pandemic ready exactly able to stop the whole thing and i understand that it is not an easy job okay i understand it's not an easy job to make those decisions. But what could he possibly be waiting on that everybody else hasn't? Like, I don't know. Is he smarter than everybody? And if that's the case, very proud.
Starting point is 00:31:55 We got a guy smarter than everybody right here in Indianapolis, Mayor. But if not, like, what the fuck are we doing? Yeah, I mean, especially if, chicago which i believe much worse you know like they're good to go i mean cincinnati's what two hours away it's like hey you guys are good i mean i don't know it is wild i did i like when i saw this i was very very surprised at the colts for one of the teams i was reading the tweet from tom pelissero okay because this is tom pelissero and we all know tom pelissero read every part of the memo and he is telling you why the NFL is doing what the NFL is doing he's basically a chip in a glitch from Roger Goodell everything he said right I was so pumped reading the tweet 30 or 32 teams let's
Starting point is 00:32:38 go and then all of a sudden it says but the Colts in the front and of course this fucking guy let's get to a break. Hey, I mean. We're back, though. They beat COVID. They beat COVID. They beat COVID. They did it.
Starting point is 00:32:51 We did it. Hey. Carson's back, too. Hey. Yeah, let's talk about that right now, actually. We didn't talk about it yesterday. I have no idea how. I think it's because my excitement level for it was so high for a moment,
Starting point is 00:33:04 and then I went to sleep, and then I completely forgot about the next day. It was kind of like one of those emotional, uh, like dumps, you know, like when you rollercoaster this entire thing, uh, Carson Wentz is all the way back.
Starting point is 00:33:14 Okay. There were some people that called in a question whether or not he was broken. I may or may not have been one of those people. When I was wondering why we are so content on getting Carson Wentz when at that time, Aaron Rodgers was potentially available and Matthew Stafford was potentially available. Now, do I think Carson Wentz, if Carson can play his absolute best football like he did a few years ago, can he play as good as Matthew Stafford and hopefully one day be able to get to the point where he is Aaron Rogers, 16 years into this thing, the guy, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:33:47 Yes. I think he can. But at this moment, when we were having a conversation about him potentially, you know, being a cult, I was like, yo,
Starting point is 00:33:53 I don't want, there is other options. Oh yeah. But now that Carson, by the way, Aaron, we still don't know. We still don't know what's going to go on.
Starting point is 00:34:03 Matthew Stafford was traded for like three firsts or something like that to the Los Angeles Rams. So they felt the same exact way as I did. Now they might be wrong. I might be wrong. We might be wrong. But I think Matthew Stafford is going to do very well in Los Angeles. And I think a lot of people just haven't seen him play.
Starting point is 00:34:17 I think they have no idea. He's about to absolutely ball out. But now that we get Carson, after all that happens. So I'm on vacation actually when this happens i have to stare down the inevitability of me having to face the music here of saying what i had said because philadelphia was tweeting get carson to indie it's the best fit and i was just one of the only voices that was like who says that's the best fit like who just because he and frank had success in the past who says that's
Starting point is 00:34:46 what i don't want to hear it like i don't need aaron rogers be a great fucking fit too i want to know aaron rogers would be a great fit if he came in here just like tom is a great fit in tampa i don't know if that was something they were thinking but you bring in something like that but now after meeting carson you know in hearing why carson thinks you know and was so thankful of frank reich i mean and now i'm getting to see some you know, and was so thankful of Frank Reich. I mean, and now I'm getting to see some, you know, some footage from practice where he's spinning that thing. Oh, yeah. And I'm hearing conversations he's having with T.Y.
Starting point is 00:35:13 And T.Y. is telling me, like, hey, I am very excited about getting back to work. And then this footage comes of Carson Wentz. And after we had already met him, he's 6'10". He is a massive man, okay? Then there's footage of him at practice, after practice, shooting hoops, playing knockout against a guy
Starting point is 00:35:34 who had 1,000 points at Virginia Commonwealth and Mo Alley Cox in front of the entire team. Carson Wentz is swagging out. Carson Wentz is fadeaway. Now, every time he faded, he missed. So, listen, Carson. Fucking sit in the
Starting point is 00:35:50 pocket, dude. Alright? When he had good form, he knocked it. Bang. Bang. Knocked it down. You could see literally when he was going to make it, when he wasn't going to make it. The team was cheering. Carson had to answer a couple times. He did as such. I mean, there's another answer. I mean, it looks like he's
Starting point is 00:36:05 having a blast it was a celebration and he let his teammate win because he's a good guy obviously great teammate mel ollie cox great tight end great basketball player carson wentz seems to be beloved by everybody and it looks like he's having the time of his life so maybe all that conversation about him being broken just like what frank reich said was all bullshit this guy seems to be loving football again i assume he's loving his teammates again and i assume that's going to bring the confidence back that he had a couple years ago when he was an mvp player i'm so thankful that north dakota dude is in this town yeah and i did not know they had basketball hoops in north dakota but it seems like he's a baller and i had since seen some high school highlights
Starting point is 00:36:43 of him that guy worked the boards he was a big body down there he's a baller, and I had since seen some high school highlights of him. That guy worked the boards. He was a big body down there. He's tough down there. And this guy's all the way back. Carson Wentz MVP. I think it's like plus 20 something. Yeah. Hell yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:56 Get on it now. Get on it now. I think he's ready to go. He looks awesome in the blue and white, too. Those might be his colors. This really might be a whole new Carl Wentz. Yeah, it's Carl wentz 2.0 and uh you know what would help him immensely i think maybe uh another weapon julio john
Starting point is 00:37:12 yeah is that where you're going there's news on the julio jones and um hold on let me shannon sharp story oh really okay so it's coming out allegedly julio did not know he was on tv so what does that mean put that guy in jail that's what a paralegal said on the internet people go through many changes as we get older isn't that right oh yeah for men one of the less fortunate changes is that testosterone production begins to naturally decrease in the body. Did you know this, AJ? I am aware. For most men, it begins around the age of 30, and testosterone production declines by roughly 1% per year.
Starting point is 00:37:55 My God. So if you live to 130, you ain't got shit left. No. Minus 30. Well, if it starts around 30 this is one of those questions on a test where you know begins around 30 in the testosterone production declines by roughly one percent per year so does it start at zero or does it start at 30 that's the thing this is where they can get you it's one of them damn word problems this is one of those rounds where you're like oh wait a minute uh which can
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Starting point is 00:39:56 I believe four-time Super Bowl champion. A man who is a surefire Hall of Famer. A guy who, when was called upon to make a kick that every kicker has ever dreamt about potentially having to kick, but had to actually experience it, feel it, and execute on the grandest stage of them all, the Super Bowl.
Starting point is 00:40:23 You're talking about a sniper. Hey, he's been called. You're talking about a sniper. Hey, he's been called. You're talking about a guy who is ice cold, has ice running through his veins. Ladies and gentlemen, Dad of the Year, Adam Vinatieri. What's going on, dude? What are you doing?
Starting point is 00:40:41 Dad of the Year, that's impressive. Well, I mean, you're coaching a guy who's going to be in the NFL. Your kid's going to be in the NFL for sure. I mean, let's go ahead and call it what it is. You're dad of the year over there. You're almost retired, maybe not retired. You're just living over there, huh?
Starting point is 00:40:54 I'm enjoying life, bud. Enjoying life. Trying to be like you. What did you do today? What has your daily schedule been like? And what do you do on a day-to-day now that you're not in the league full-time? Well, today was a little bit less. Today's the last day of school for the kids so you get them up and off to school and then get a workout in and just relax man it's uh it's good it's good you get you get a bit you get to actually make uh make make time to figure out what you want to do
Starting point is 00:41:19 but i tell you what it's almost seems like it's more busy now because your honeydew list or your list of stuff you want to get accomplished just keeps growing and growing and growing. Hey, are you comfortable in this post football like that Morton Anderson interview? By the way, legend, did you guys have a good,
Starting point is 00:41:34 you guys have, I assume you two know each other very well. I mean, two goats in this whole thing, right? I assume you guys are good friends. We actually got to know each other a lot more in the last couple of years. You know,
Starting point is 00:41:44 I played against him a handful of times and he was always kind of one of my heroes when I got into the league. I mean, shoot, he was toward the end of his career. And, I mean, he played another 10 years when I first started off. So I just kept on playing against him and just sitting there going, man, it's amazing what you've accomplished. And then being able to play pretty much as long as he did and to be able to do some of the same things that he did was pretty awesome. So we kind of reconnected after he was done, and I broke some of his records and stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:42:14 I was one of the biggest advocates for him to make it to the Hall of Fame. I'll tell you, you played 25 years and got 2,500 points. I don't know how you aren't, you know, at least considered every single year. And it was awesome that he finally got in and Ray Guy. And I think there just needs to be a few more specialists in the hall because of them, those guys. Well, you're going to be in. Go ahead, AJ.
Starting point is 00:42:37 Hey, Adam, I know you came in and you played for Bill Parcells right on. Then you transitioned to Bill Belichick. Obviously two coaching legends. What was that like coming in as a rookie kicker, kicking for Bill Parcells right on, then you transition to Bill Belichick, obviously two coaching legends. What was that like coming in as a rookie kicker, kicking for Bill Parcells? And then what was Belichick like, I guess, when he first got there? Well, it's funny you ask that. Parcells was never a big advocate or fan of rookie specialists. I know he had Matt Barr for a bunch of years who he absolutely loved,
Starting point is 00:43:04 specialists. I know he had Matt Barr for a bunch of years who he absolutely loved, who earned his respect by kicking championship kicks and helping him win Super Bowls and stuff like that. I believe there's a guy by the name of Scott Sisson that he drafted, was a rookie that came in and didn't do great, I guess, at some point and only lasted about a half a year and very shortly thereafter I'm the next rookie kicker in camp with him so he tried to make it as difficult as he could for me he challenged me pretty much every day there was a lot of times where you know that the team was going to do no conditioning or maybe double conditioning depending on if hey Vinatieri run out there and kick this 50 yarder if he makes it there's no conditioning he misses it, we're doing twice as much kind of stuff. And he would stand in my kicking spot,
Starting point is 00:43:48 or he would purposely get in my way when we were doing stuff. But I, in a weird way, I really appreciated that because it just added extra pressure in training camp, in practice, and I think it helped me, you know, just stay focused on stuff like that. Belichick, awesome. It was funny because he was the defensive backs, defensive coordinator when Parcells was there. And for the longest time, I didn't have a name. Belichick would call me, hey, four, hey, asshole.
Starting point is 00:44:19 I'm assuming I can't, but it took probably about a full year before I either learned my name or maybe before I earned enough respect from him to call me by my name. But I learned a lot from them two gentlemen, two of the best coaches ever. I still say Coach Belichick, I have to put him on the top of the list of all-time great coaches. I mean, proof is in the pudding. It's just one of those things that I learned a lot from him. I watched him take the best out of every player. And you might be an average player, you might be an elite player, but he got the best out of every guy. And they won a lot of championships because of it. And I think he
Starting point is 00:44:59 learned some of that probably from Bill Parcells as well another Hall of Fame coach obviously so I was blessed to be around amazing athletes and amazing coaches my entire career and I and I guess that's probably why I ultimately hold some stats and and was around championships because I was just blessed to be around some hello hell of a good coaches and players that's for sure yeah everybody says that they got to be teammates with you though dude like you're one of the only kickers ever that people andrew luck was fucking pumped to meet adam vinatieri he even thanked adam vinatieri in his retirement press conference because andrew and we don't have to dive deep into this but andrew was over in um germany i think with his dad with the world league and they played
Starting point is 00:45:46 against Vinatieri whenever he was a kid so like he had known Vinatieri since the world league and he watched him so then he got to be on a team he was pumped to be your teammate so you're being very humble right now but I got a chance to see like Bill Belichick after the game every single time we played come over to you in like a full you know cool conversation i didn't try to eavesdrop every time but certainly some of the times i did you know like just to see that whole conversation was awesome anytime you saw old coaches from the patriots that were or teammates that were now coaches you were like a godfather of that whole thing and that leads me to this point whenever we would play in new england which tom is going to have to do and
Starting point is 00:46:25 gronk is going to have to do in week four coming up or whatever you going on the field for warm-ups when it's just you know scattered people there a lot of thank you vinay a lot of thank you that boy vinatari we go back in we come back out for the game it was a different world out there from those fans and what you did for them and as soon as the game was over it was right back to all right i i think that place doesn't get enough credit for its fans being just savages and like a part of it because it's almost expected because they are just known as patriots fans but But I think Tom and Gronk, that's going to be a show, don't you think? Oh, it's going to be fun. That's probably why the tickets are astronomical right now.
Starting point is 00:47:11 It's funny, though. You're absolutely right. I remember we're on the sideline of the game, and some dude's yelling, man, Vinny, you effing suck. And I remember you turning around going, come on, really, come on. And his buddy's like, dude, he's right. You know, it was just a the dude out and he had to like eat a bag of crow i guess at that point but it was hilarious you're absolutely right there
Starting point is 00:47:33 they're great fans they're savages that's probably one of the reasons why it's difficult to win there i mean they really have their 12th man on the field if you will by by their excitement their crowd and stuff like that. So it's always enjoyable to play there. It's always one of those, you circle that and you go, I want to beat these guys because, you know, it's just respect. I mean, game recognized game, I guess. But, you know, you just, you just, you have to go in to beat the champs.
Starting point is 00:47:59 And I don't care what their record was last year. It's just, it's a different feeling when you play the Patriots. Oh, I mean, I think a lot of people obviously remember your career from both places. I don't remember you missing any kicks, obviously, in your career either, honestly. Really, when I think of you, I think of you draining game winners in Super Bowls. Every big game you could think of, you're making a big field goal. But I wanted to ask you about, first off, you seem to be as jacked as you've ever been. I saw you and Pat did the schedule announcement.
Starting point is 00:48:27 Looked great. Would love to know your program that you're on right now. And also, like, in a more serious note, if you were still playing and you had to go through this, I just wonder with how the players going through the COVID protocols, not getting to interact, like, how weird would that have been for you? I would have absolutely hated it. Absolutely. My wife said maybe it was good that you stepped away when you did.
Starting point is 00:48:47 I mean, I didn't step away. The knee helped me step away. But she said, I can't imagine you getting your nose swabbed every day. And, Pat, you can vouch for me. I'm the biggest smartass digger. The training staff and those guys would have absolutely hated me because I would have gave them a ton of shit every single day. So they're probably like, thank God Vinny's not in the locker room right now.
Starting point is 00:49:09 But I appreciate you noticing that I've been working out. I've been, you know, honestly just eating healthy. I tell you, COVID, that whole year, I sat around the house, couldn't go anywhere. So I got into the habit of drinking a bourbon or two or three every day. And I just put on a bunch of extra weight. And I remember just literally it was about this last year, getting out of the shower and looking in the mirror and going, gosh, you're disgusting right now.
Starting point is 00:49:35 Like Pat would say, you know, I'm a pretty prideful guy and I challenged myself a lot. And that was one of those things, man, you're going to get back into shape and you're going to look good because I don't care if you're almost 50 years old or not. You're going to be – my goal is when I'm 50, maybe men's health. I go onto the show or I go and do an interview and they take some pictures with my shirt off and they go, damn, for 50, that guy's pretty jacked.
Starting point is 00:49:56 So I'm trying to be like you, AJ. I'm just trying to get big like you, man. AJ works out every morning like 5 a.m. and I assume that you – I'm kind of like you because 5 a.m is a little too early but i'm also retired whatever look at 10 5. um vinnie i think a cool thing about you while you were playing is and this goes to the fitness thing while you were getting i don't say up there because in real life you're not old but as you were looking more and more like the fathers of the teammates of ours you know
Starting point is 00:50:30 what i mean as you were getting to the stage where you could have been dads for some of the players you still got in the bench like you were still there was still like uh there was still like a hey let's not forget you don't just you know you don't fall your way into this long of a career. Okay. Like that was, that was one of my favorite things about you. It was like, you were so competitive. You were, you kept up both, you know, with society in the locker room, but also the music and athletic. I mean, you were just, it's not easy to be an older guy in the locker room, especially as a kicker.
Starting point is 00:51:04 And you were just like one of the coolest dudes of all time in everybody's eyes. So I think that has to be said at some point, you know? Appreciate it. I just like to compete with the guys, you know? I didn't want to be that guy, that kicker over on the other side of the room that was doing his own little quirky stuff that he couldn't lift weights. I'm like, I think at the end of the day, I wanted everybody to understand
Starting point is 00:51:24 that it meant as much to me and I was going to do everything I could do to be the best I could. And shit, we all, you know, I miss kicks and we drop touchdown passes or we throw interceptions or whatever it is, but we're all in it together. And I wanted everybody to make sure they understood how important it was to me, if not as important or more important, because the older you get, the less you know how much time you have left. And ultimately, it was a badge of honor being in there, sitting in the hot tub, talking finances with young guys that know how to invest their
Starting point is 00:51:56 money. And they just asked you about, you know, little simple questions about life, finances, relationship, that kind of stuff. And by no means am I an expert on any of that stuff. life, finances, relationship, that kind of stuff. And by no means am I an expert on any of that stuff. Just had a little few more experiences along the way with 20 extra years of life or 30 extra years of life, whatever it was. So for me, it was awesome having that father figure or big brother or grandfather or whatever you want to call it. It was definitely awesome to be around all these young studs and being able to help out in a in a weird way yeah man i enjoyed watching it and as you were talking there i was just thinking to myself i would have retired probably five years earlier if i had one of those kickers you were talking about i don't know if i would have been able to legitimately i don't know how i would we were
Starting point is 00:52:40 around each other so much so much we're around each other I couldn't even imagine having to be with somebody That you absolutely hate I couldn't even imagine it I was very lucky obviously the goat was the guy But you're also life and everything like that So incredibly cool Connor what do you have? Yeah Adam as a Patriots fan thanks again for the Super Bowls
Starting point is 00:52:59 I mean it was a true pleasure watching you win all the time In a hypothetical world If you were to come back and you could only choose between the Colts and the Patriots, why would you come back and be a Patriot and not a Colt? What's that all about? That's a leading question. At this point, you know, I'm just at the mercy of whoever the heck
Starting point is 00:53:19 would want to bring me back. But in saying that, Pat, you and I have already talked and we've kind of kept things quiet and you're you know obviously the indie star jumps onto this about adam you know blah blah blah hey let's should we just make it real should we just say hey we're done we're riding off into the sunset i mean is that is you want it to be live on your show that vinny's officially done is that what you want i don't want that but if it's gonna happen happy it's happening yeah i would like that to be known so i don't feel obligated don't be feel forced put it this way hey let me see today is what wednesday by friday if paperwork goes in
Starting point is 00:53:54 you hear that you heard it here first first of all congratulations on a legendary fucking career, dude. In a game that revolves around the score, okay? That's how they pick winners and losers is in a game in which they keep score. To be the all-time leading scorer in scoring sport, I think many would say, hell of a fucking job. Unbelievable. South Dakota kid, you didn't have an easy way either.
Starting point is 00:54:34 You went over to Virginia to train. You're a high school teacher, I think, or a substitute teacher. Then you go to the World League over in Amsterdam. Somehow survived the off-the-field activities that you could have fallen into, stayed focused on kicking, go into New England, beat out Matt Barr at some point,
Starting point is 00:54:53 even though he had an incredible career, win Super Bowls, memorable moments, biggest moments in the sports history revolve around your foot in a lot of cases. Congratulations, man. You're the fucking best. I was honored to be your teammate.
Starting point is 00:55:06 Yeah! Hey, one favor to ask. One, you got to come out and help my kid punt, man, and kick and do all that stuff. You know, we got to get him to the next level. I can do so much coaching for him, but another set of eyes and another superstar pro bowler like yourself, man.
Starting point is 00:55:25 I need you. You know what? If he wants to play linebacker, I'll have AJ come out and help him do some stuff too. How about that? Hey, maybe both like his dad. Maybe both like his dad. I'm so thankful for you. I didn't want you to do that or expect you to do that. The fact you did that made me real.
Starting point is 00:55:40 I wish I would have been able to put a little bit more pen to paper on describing your career, because for every specialist, dude, this is real. Justin Tucker has said it, who's probably going to be the next guy, right? There's a chance he's going to be the next guy. There's a couple, Butker, he might be the next guy. He's got a massive leg. He's going to be in big moments. There are some guys that are potentially going to get there.
Starting point is 00:56:00 But to all those guys, you're the guy. And I wasn't a punter, obviously. I thought I was going to be a kicker. I get drafted to Adam Vinatieri's team. And it was an honor, even though we weren't playing the same position, to watch you kind of do your business. And I would have never made it, would have never been the person I was if it wasn't for being teammates with you. You're obviously a hysterical human being off the field, but you fucking did it, dude. And you should be incredibly proud if this is officially it, man. You should be.
Starting point is 00:56:29 It's really, really cool. Appreciate you, man. That's awesome. And it was an honor to be your teammate and still your friend. It was fun being out there because as much as you wanted ultimately to be a kicker too, I think you made me better because I always knew that you were sitting there, if I screwed something up, you, I think you made me better because I always knew that you were sitting there. If I screwed something up, you're going to take my job kind of thing.
Starting point is 00:56:49 So it made me be – this didn't work a little bit harder, too. So if anything, you made me better as well. So hats off to you as well. Well, I think my holds were also spectacular. Come on. There were some times that it even meant a shaky snap, and all of a sudden you and I both look at each other. Not saying that that happened often, but we're all human.
Starting point is 00:57:10 We all kind of – There was one or two times a year that we would look at each other as the Bulls threw the upright going, Thank God that worked out. Nice fucking kickball. Nice fucking kickball. Overton was obviously incredibly good, but at that position, it's impossible to be perfect. There was a couple moments where we got to share. I always talk about it when people ask about you and talk about being the most clutch human of all time. Reference the story of me telling you that.
Starting point is 00:57:45 Going out there for that first, I think it was game winner or game tire. I forget what it was because I always felt it was my job as a caddy almost. Like I'm a caddy, okay? Like I'm trying to either keep it light or just kind of read the room here. Like whatever. Hey, let's go, old man. Uh-huh, this ain't nothing. Like here we go.
Starting point is 00:57:59 Like that's how I, you know, we kind of approached it. And there was moments where I was like, all right, I shouldn't talk to him right now. This is not the thing. That first game winner, and I got the chance to experience why that kick went through against St. Louis and why that snowball game against the Raiders went through it was awesome just hey you ready old man normally get a yep or like something not a single sound was made I turn around and it's just this soulless man standing there like all right here we go all right we're around and it's just this soulless man standing there. I'm like, all right, here we go. All right, we're going. And it was just, there wasn't even a doubt. There wasn't even a anything in your head. You were stone cold out there, man. I tried to learn as much as I could,
Starting point is 00:58:36 but you got to be born with that, I think. And you're one of one, dude. You really are. And that's a super cool thing. I appreciate you, appreciate you you're the best ladies and gentlemen surefire hall of famer i guess officially retired now all time leading scorer in the history of the nfl 101 seasons completed the man who scored the most amount of points four-time super bowl champion adam vinita Good afternoon beautiful people. It is Wednesday. May something. In hour two begins.
Starting point is 00:59:14 Right? Now. In hour one. We experienced some technical difficulties. With our YouTube stream. Everybody on Earth thought we were dead. Thought we were taken out. Call an ambulance. But not for us.
Starting point is 00:59:36 We're fucking hot. Yeah! We have no idea what happened. Why our YouTube crashed. We think an update was asked to happen on our computer that goes live to YouTube. Out of nowhere, software thought they could take us down. An update thought they could take us down. The internet thought we were dead.
Starting point is 00:59:59 They were pissing and dancing on our graves. But what did Zito do? He took the game out of the device. He blew on it and put it right back in there. Are we staring down a future problem that is certain, more certain than the Pittsburgh Penguins winning the game tonight? Yes, this will come back and bite us in the ass. We put a Band-Aid on a flesh wound.
Starting point is 01:00:30 Yep. A dodge. This will probably get us, but we are back. We can't thank you enough for Rock and Roll. Yeah. All right. Let's get to the show. Hammerdown boys have joined us.
Starting point is 01:00:42 It's great to see you guys. Great to see you guys. I also saw whenever all hell broke loose that the COVID cowboy and the Canadian heater did try to jump in and put out some fires. So we appreciate you guys. Thank you guys. Appreciate you guys. Ain't that right, Diggs? As soon as you saw there was a problem, you ran right back.
Starting point is 01:00:59 You were like, what can I help? How can I help? You need a horse. You need a hat. Well, when YouTube went down, actually, I said, oh, I'm going to take a stop. I'm going to go take a shit. Oh, that's right. I didn't You need a horse. You need a hat. Well, when YouTube went down, actually, I said, oh, I'm going to take a stop. I'm going to go take a shit. Oh, that's right. I didn't see you back there.
Starting point is 01:01:08 Yeah, you're also thinking to yourself, does this mean Hammer Down is dying? All right, we'll go home. How's it going, boys? You guys are still incredibly hot. It makes no sense to any of us how you've done it. Last night, you were 4-1 last night? Last night was a good night on the diamond. Tonight, you know, who knows? Gumpy will probably be 5-0 on the diamond. I took it on the shins last night was a good night on the diamond um tonight you know who knows
Starting point is 01:01:25 gumpy will probably be five and oh on the diamond i took it on the shins last night tough night oh no oh no shit i shouldn't have brought it up today no i mean it happens i don't always bring it up though and it feels like when i do bring it up every single time you guys are like we won we won we won so much so that there's side conversations happening in the office and on the internet about you guys potentially lying about your. So this will make some people happy. I had a losing night. I'm sorry. Hey, by the way, I'm not happy.
Starting point is 01:01:53 I'm not happy about it, Gumpy. I'm not happy about it at all. Because you've been winning me money. But I just find it unbelievable to me that we have the hottest gambling podcast gambling show coming out of this office. And it is never going to end. What happened? I'm being told that there have been tweets sent that we are down on Sirius now. No way. That's what Twitter says.
Starting point is 01:02:14 What the fuck? Goddamn dick. What is going on? This is awesome. I guess I gotta call an ambulance. Fuck for serious. What a day. Ian. Ian.
Starting point is 01:02:39 This thing's broke. Oh no. The whole system is going down. Ian. Can you hear me? Is Ian Rappaport there? Ian. I'm here. Hey, what's up?
Starting point is 01:02:49 The whole show's falling. My ear things don't work now. Oh, no. We just got back on Sirius. We are back. Way to go, Z. Ian, a lot of people are saying the reason why our YouTube went down is because the bandwidth
Starting point is 01:03:05 could not be handled in anticipation for the Ian Rappaport appearance. And then Sirius went down, I think, because I heard the anticipation for Rap Sheet and Friends to come back out of hiatus was so high the electricity blew right through the thing and blew it out. But now we get a chance to hear from you. We're back on YouTube. We're back on Sirius. Let's have a wave.
Starting point is 01:03:27 Here we go. Here we go boys. Yup. I'll tell you what, I'm not trying to be a whatever, but if you guys were down on YouTube, I was canceled. I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not gonna do it. I'm just not, I'm just not gonna do it. Now that you're back, I'm really pleased to join you. Well well you're not the only one all right when our youtube went down instead of
Starting point is 01:03:47 coming to help uh hosted a show in in here kovac cowboy he went and took shits and now it's time to take a break actually i heard that yeah you said you'll cancel i mean it's okay you don't have to be in the foxhole with us but at least you'll be able to give us enough intel that we can potentially go in the foxhole and win our own win our own battles uh let's talk about what's going on the nfl ian i appreciate every time you come on here and spill your brain a little bit there's a lot of stories to be had aaron rogers right now uh i do not know anything uh obviously he is not i think he's a friend i think he's a friend not a source though i don't ask him for anything and i don't talk to him really to know anything what have you heard
Starting point is 01:04:21 aside from what we know he's karaoke karaoke-ing in Hawaii. He's learning a Taylor Swift song. He's jumping off waterfalls. He appears to be very, very happy, which I'm very pumped about. And now he's also golfing against Phil and Tom alongside Bryson DeChambeau on July 6th.
Starting point is 01:04:39 What are you hearing football-wise, Packers-wise, Aaron-wise? Is this thing going to end anytime soon? First of all, golf-wise, I'm very excited. I can't wait for Brooks Koepka to be the sideline reporter and just destroy everyone mid round. I don't know if that's actually going to happen, but I would be, I would be here for that because I mean, he really needs to, that rivalry is real. And I am, I am here for it. It's like the rivalry of the unlikable golf pros, which is just – it's like Harbaugh Schwartz from like 10 years ago.
Starting point is 01:05:10 It's great. I mean, I don't know if Koepka deserved that, but go ahead. I think he's won a bunch of majors. Anyway, so as far as the football, Aaron Rodgers is not at OTAs, which was certainly some news this week, especially the fact that he's been posting videos from Hawaii all week. So we've known he's in Hawaii, which he's not in Hawaii. He's not posting videos.
Starting point is 01:05:31 Let's make sure. Thank you. Who's posting? Well, I believe it's Kaylee Teller, who's going to be in Top Gun 7 that's coming out here. That's right. My tell's wife. Is his wife. And also the musician.
Starting point is 01:05:42 Got it. Got it. Okay. Well, that's – so someone is posting videos who I've never heard of, although I'll probably be watching the top – Anyway, as far as Rodgers goes, I think what's been interesting is, like, you know, he's done – obviously did an interview with Kenny Mayne where he said words.
Starting point is 01:05:58 Didn't really change very much. You know, it was – I think it was, I guess, interesting that he at least talked somewhat about football, but it's not like anything he said changed things. To me, he left it a little bit more open with Kenny Mayne than I kind of thought, talking about it's for people, it's the, you know, clearly trying to win over fans, but it's about the culture. But he never said, I want out.
Starting point is 01:06:21 He never said, I'm not going back. He never said he wanted to be traded. There was a lot there that he didn't say and then to hear Matt LaFleur talk about how hard they're working to get him back in the building it's at least at some point if this thing was over and done somebody would have at least insinuated it was over and done and and I don't get that impression and I know from you know one of your esteemed co-hosts AJ doesn't get the impression that it's over and done and and I don't get that impression and I know from you know, one of your esteemed co hosts, AJ doesn't get the impression that it's over and done. So I'm still thinking I'm still have the mindset that this thing could
Starting point is 01:06:53 somehow some way get put back together. Yeah, the silence is deafening is something that is said, obviously, for a lot of situations. This is one of those and I don't think either party expected it to go as public as it did, so I don't think anybody was ready to potentially have to talk about because I don't know if either of them know what's going to happen in the end. Him saying, though, and we talked about this yesterday, I love my teammates.
Starting point is 01:07:16 Yep. I love my coaches. That immediately, like, okay, so him and LeFleur, good. All right, so this is. So there's, like, even though he didn't say much, I feel like LaFleur had a big win in that interview. LaFleur was like, all right, so if he gets back, he and I are still really good. He understands that this ain't me.
Starting point is 01:07:34 This is something that's happened before me. Did you get that same feel or no? You know, I hadn't really quite thought about it like that, but that's actually a good point. I'm surprised. Because, you know, if lafleur has been all over rogers as far as we love him he's the best we want him back i mean all of those things i just you never i mean i don't know it's tough to know what aaron rogers is actually thinking
Starting point is 01:07:55 except if it comes out of his mouth and so the fact that he said that is actually a good point because now it's like we know the i don't i don't know if it's enemy or not but like for lack of a better word we know the enemy we know the, I don't know if it's enemy or not, but like for lack of a better word, we know the enemy. We know the antagonist. Obviously, Brian Gutekunst who drafted Jordan Love is it. If Aaron Rodgers is back up. Hey, listen, there's others, right? Like I have not heard this from Aaron.
Starting point is 01:08:19 Go ahead. But AJ and others that have spoke about this, Kuhn and everything like that, you hear them talk and then you look into the Packers. It's not just – I think there's, like, numerous people that are potentially – you know, because there's no owner. So it's like there's – you know what I mean? There's that whole situation. So I don't want to say it's necessarily just – I don't know,
Starting point is 01:08:39 and I don't think – unless you do. You might know. I don't know. You probably do now that I think about it. Is Gunter Kuhn the guy? is it all good to go into or i i wonder if it's a a culmination of things before gunta kunz even got there as well you know what i mean i don't know yeah i mean he runs the draft so you know his decision to draft jordan love and to me like i know and i know aaron rogers said it's not about jordan love because by all accounts jordan love is an awesome everyone, you know, I have no idea if he's going to be
Starting point is 01:09:06 the future franchise quarterback of the Packers, but everybody likes him, including Aaron Rodgers. He seems to work hard, like all things good. But this is, to me, about the drafting of Love because it's the first time Aaron Rodgers, without a heads up, and obviously we've seen some organizations like, say, the Bears, give their quarterbacks a heads up when you're gonna drop something So my and you don't even got the heads up. Yeah, you know, yeah
Starting point is 01:09:30 But to me that's it was the first time Roger said hold on like am I not here as long as I want and that I think triggered this whole thing But again like contractually they could make it so he doesn't have to worry about that by giving him the guaranteed money That's that this organization rarely or never gives anyone for multi-year guarantees that to me is kind of where the potential fix comes yeah i think so too and hopefully that'll be able to happen but he also it we haven't got the feeling from anybody that actually knows the situation saying that it's not fixable which is also cool if you're a package and so it feels like sure i don't think either side has any idea how this is going to end up.
Starting point is 01:10:05 I would assume that they could just sit down and make a bunch of decisions with each other and be like, no, this, this, this, and then it'll get settled. But who knows when that day comes and who knows who's asking for what. Hopefully we'll learn someday. And to the Jordan Love thing, they also, to your point, they kind of told him like your days are potentially numbered here, like the writing's on the wall. But also they didn't use that pick to like make the team like,
Starting point is 01:10:27 you know what I mean? Like they could have, they traded up. They didn't even have one. They traded up to go get somebody and they use somebody that's, they pick somebody four years down the road. We were just in the NFC championship. Like, why don't you, why don't we at least try to do that? I think that's another thing.
Starting point is 01:10:43 If I was, once again, this is not coming from Aaron. this is just me from hearing the thing that you could be like yeah what are we doing tom got everybody back that they wanted they got every vet there he first year out he's able to do whatever the hell he wants he's getting told for a last pick of the second round draft pick like hey we're gonna do this is okay yeah andy dalton hasn't even played a game he's getting it's just i don't know how you fix it i hope they do let's move on though julio jones i'm out of there okay was said and i don't even know if i'm allowed to mention it because allegedly potentially illegally recorded highly illegal highly illegal allegedly the internet has told me i mean the laws are what they are like i'm curious to see what happened I have no idea what's going to happen. But, like, you know, that raised a lot of eyebrows.
Starting point is 01:11:27 Just the, I'm going to broadcast this guy's private phone call on air. Like, that is wild. Like, and reportedly the Falcons are pissed. And I do not blame them. Yeah, I would assume the Falcons are pissed. Julio's team probably not exactly thrilled. Because this doesn't make them look great to other teams, it's like that isn't exactly what Julio has ever been about by the way I don't think that is I don't think Julio is a big public you know like
Starting point is 01:11:52 statement I don't think he is right that's not his thing now he did have that Instagram situation where he took down the Falcons photos when they were in negotiation but Julio I think is a pretty reserved oh yeah you know what I mean pretty behind so ultra private yeah holy Julio, I think is a pretty reserved. Oh yeah. You know what I mean? Pretty behind. So ultra private. Yeah. Holy Julio had to be in on it. I'm like, I, I know that people are reporting that he wasn't and I, it listened. And if it comes out, Julio says, and Shannon says he didn't know or whatever, uh, he had to have known. Don't you think he had to have known that is a, that is a crazy situation to be in for Julio i'd assume if he didn't know you know yeah i mean like career changing situation right like saying i'm out of there for when you've been the face of the franchise like you know i guess theoretically somehow he could go back but it's
Starting point is 01:12:36 hard to put the thing back into the other thing you know that's so i mean you can do it but like you know i don't know i don't know how it happens and what't know. I don't know how it happens. I don't know how deep we want to go into the inner workings of FS1, but I'm not sure they aired that again. Usually on all the other shows, if they have some groundbreaking interview, they go crazy with the audio. Did they air that again? Yeah. You heard the host, while he's on the call she says because they have her separated they
Starting point is 01:13:07 they've done that through quarantine or whatever she says you should tell him he's on live tv or something like she oh i didn't even oh geez but i didn't know if that was i to be honest i thought it was all a bit i thought it was all a part of it you know what i mean like because every once in a while we'll get somebody to call into this show or other people have had it and i literally you know now to my credit i don't do a lot of things good and a lot of things right in this whole hosting world but that is something i feel like is very i don't know what this person is going to tell me and i like listen you what you're about to tell me i don't think the world deserves a year by the way i respect what we have going on if shannon did that to holy i think i think shannon also has to feel pretty fucking terrible
Starting point is 01:13:44 about it because it's like a code, you know? It's like when somebody's mic'd up on the sideline, everybody goes like, hey, hey, hey, hey, like I am mic'd up right now. Do not. It's just you never know. I just, I refuse to believe he didn't know. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:13:56 I just. I don't know the answer to that, but you mentioned the sort of code thing. Like we have, you know, at our network, a lot of very, very good former players. Michael Irvin was one. We've had, you know, you all know Dion and Marshall, all those guys. And they constantly are talking to current players, giving advice, helping, like being a sounding board. Dion was constantly a sounding board for young corners. For everybody.
Starting point is 01:14:18 Dion's a sounding board for everybody, by the way. What Dion has done to the game is awesome, by the way. He's right. It's awesome. And constantly news would happen. And then I would be talking about it and Dion would go, Oh yeah, yeah. I knew about that. And I'd be like, hello. And he's like, Oh yeah. Like I, when a guy tells me I can't,
Starting point is 01:14:34 and it took me a little bit of time to understand, but he's right. Like when they're talking to him, they're not talking to him as a TV analyst or talking to him as one of the best corners ever to play the game. Like that's, there's some, I want everything to be public, but there's some stuff that needs to be private. And like, I have a lot of questions about that. Yeah. You told AJ Hawk that Aaron was a source. It's like, it's like one of his friends.
Starting point is 01:14:56 Like that's you view it much differently than the players. And I mean, that is, that is two different things, but life is very strange. And guys have gotten caught up in saying things on a very regular basis this is this is not a normal or an abnormal thing where guys will accidentally leak some information that they had heard that wasn't supposed to be public it's natural that's why i try to literally block myself from all conversations because i'm like hey listen if it's in here like there's a chance it's going to come out so it is something i legitimately like have to
Starting point is 01:15:25 like adam venetieri for instance he went on uh chris mortensen or not chris more morton anderson's podcast legend of a kicker and talked about how he he basically this just broke today he basically was thinking about like coming back and like trying and his body wasn't reacting how he thought it was because adam venetieri the reason why he is the way he is is because he he's like uber competitive, just like everybody else. But like, I thought there was no way he goes out the way he went out. Like, I didn't think knowing Vinatieri, everybody was like, he's too old. He's hurt. I'm like, that ain't how Vinatieri operates. Like, I don't think that's how this whole thing is going to go. And he was, he's kind of alluded to that. He was thinking about coming back. He finally said it publicly. So now I can talk about it, but I would
Starting point is 01:16:04 never even ask him. I'd see him, and I'm like, I don't even want to hear it because I don't want to have to say it because that's big news. There's a little bit of a, there is a real, like, there's a friend code there, like a teammate code. Hopefully that wasn't the case. We'll see what happens with Shannon. Anything else popping off in the world that we should know about
Starting point is 01:16:20 or anything that's going to happen you think that we should know about? There is, okay, there's nfl owners meeting going on now i'm sure you're you know obviously very much into this the uh a change to the low block rule has been approved uh these sort of things that they're gonna i know very exciting um you know these are the sorts of things just getting some getting some things in order now with nfl's having some league meetings i thought it was interesting yesterday them talking about how many you know the owners and team presidents talk about how many fans are going to be in the stands for uh 2021 like you know covid has sort of forced us to think like one week at a time because you literally don't know what
Starting point is 01:16:58 the numbers are going to be like football is going to be back in a very big way and it's going to be as someone who enjoys football and watching on tv like it is going to be back in a very big way. And it's going to be, as someone who enjoys football and watching on TV, it is going to be awesome to have normalcy. I think so, too. And football is better with fans in it. I mean, it's a part of it. I think NBA, I'm realizing, too. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:15 When you watch that Knicks game and then you watch a game where the fans are super far away, it's a much different game there. That whole thing. There's only two teams. Fun fact, by the way. I will be headed to the Knicks game tonight in apparently very good seats.
Starting point is 01:17:31 I'm not going to brag. I'm just saying. Are you going to be next to Tracy Morgan and Spike? Are you going to be doing a shoulder bop with Tracy Morgan? Look, it's possible. I'm obviously not going to rule it out. I think the main thing is I'm going to have to dress like I'm a semi-put-together person.
Starting point is 01:17:50 I'll have to get some cool sneakers in case we're like, right? I have no idea. This is going to be an experiment. What do we got there? Yeah, you should wear these. These are the Zions. You put these on, by the way, there will be a picture of you sitting on the wood, pal. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:18:02 You can't be the bland white sitting on the wood tonight ian don't can't be that guy you can't be the guy who whose dad made so much money in venture capitalism that they've just kind of lived and they have front row seats and they don't dress anything like a fan they have super polos on and everything like that and they just walk in and out you can't do that ian okay so what do you think are you thinking like nick's t-shirt? No. I can't go jersey. You think just regular pool.
Starting point is 01:18:28 Body paint. Like I'm a... Yeah. Don't tempt me. Body paint. You trying to get on TV? Are we trying to be something or are we just trying to be there?
Starting point is 01:18:36 Are we in the game or at the game? I mean, a little of both. My wife has blue hair. That might get her on TV. There you go. Maybe I'll just be the guy sitting next to the woman with blue hair. Oh, you have orange hair then, right?
Starting point is 01:18:46 Blue hair with orange hair. You might actually be onto something. Please. I mean, this could end up being bad for you, though. I want to let you know, Ian, that photos could be bad. The internet could turn on this. I don't want to give my stamp of, like, positive approval on this, but if you do
Starting point is 01:19:02 that, we will definitely see it, because I don't want to be a part of you potentially getting bullied by people. You know what I mean? I don't want to be a part of that. That's not what I'm about. Go ahead, Dix. Ian, remember when all those teams put out those statements like, hey, we're not going to do OTAs?
Starting point is 01:19:16 That was a fun time. Is there any team that is actually not doing OTAs? Because it seems like all the teams are. I believe at least 22 or more have reached some agreement with their coach. That was a time when everyone was talking about the boycott or whatever. It obviously has not been a boycott. But it's also been, I don't know, kind of interesting and maybe a little helpful that because of all this noise, because of all the boycott slash non-boycott, teams have
Starting point is 01:19:45 definitely dialed back on like what they've done this offseason. So, I mean, do you really need to be full speed in May? Like, I don't think so. You know, there's definitely ways to get better without tearing a knee in May or June. Like that's always been ridiculous to me. So I think that this noise has forced teams to adapt. I don't know that there actually is anyone actually boycotting, but at least players got an extra four weeks of virtual, and OTAs have kind of changed, I don't know, maybe forever. So that's not a loss for the NFLPA, I would say. With the information you just gave us,
Starting point is 01:20:18 and kind of the condescending attitude from the COVID cowboy, and you about this boycott, at the end of the day, what is a boycott? What is it? Nobody shows up. No, it's a protest, okay? And what is a protest? A protest is a drive to try to make some change. What you just told me is they change things. The protest, the boycott worked, actually. Congrats to the players.
Starting point is 01:20:38 There you go! Good work, Mark! Probably right. It ain't gonna change for everybody, though. There's going to be some hell to be paid for this from somebody. Yeah, you're right. But, like, if at the end of all this we get, like, no or fewer injuries in June, like, there's nothing worse than a stupid injury in, like, a June minicamp.
Starting point is 01:21:00 Like, come on. So this is better. Well, especially when people act like it matters. And it does okay it does matter you you lay down the groundwork for your team you get to meet each other you get to mingle it's a camaraderie builder you saw carson and mo alley cox doing their thing you learn the offense it is a big deal okay it is a i've seen a lot of people dominate in otas and then everything changes in training the only thing that matters is training camp.
Starting point is 01:21:26 And that sounds like a terrible thing, but the only thing that matters is training camp. All this other shit doesn't matter. That's why when it was going to become such a big story, I was like, this is about to be a big to-do about nothing, which is kind of all labor agreements, I guess, whenever it comes to what we can potentially negotiate about, which OTAs is definitely a negotiable piece in this entire game. Right. Yeah. Yeah, I mean I mean oh go ahead check well I was gonna tell you that there's power outage in New York you might not be going to that Knicks game oh no that's why we're down on serious I guess there is this what Zito just told me so this is hey we are covering this live as we go here there is a source in my ear
Starting point is 01:22:03 saying that one of our platforms Sirius XM is down yet here, there is a source in my ear saying that one of our platforms, SiriusXM, is down yet again because there is no juice in New York City. Oh, no. Which is where SiriusXM is headed and also where Ian is looking to head to as well to watch the Knicks tonight. We'll keep you updated on the situation as it matures. That is very scary. I need to not have the blackout so I can make my first courtside knicks game appearance if i am in fact court courtside if i'm all the way up on the the boonies then this conversation never happened you know i've gotten a chance to be uh you know courtside on a wood i have six to seven i have six to seven rebounds
Starting point is 01:22:41 okay over my career sitting courtside. People or balls? Balls. Oh, okay. Not like the people felons here. Had a great moment. Roy Hibbert did something. He stumbled over to me.
Starting point is 01:22:54 We get a dap up. He walks away. Sitting next to me was his agent, who was also Jordan's agent. That's why we talked, because he came and said, who the fuck are you? And I said, who the fuck are you? And he said, well, I'm the guy that should be getting dapped up from my client before you should be here or whatever and i'm like oh nice to meet you and he pointed at my shoes and said i created it so i've had a lot of you're gonna have great moments there okay you're potentially gonna get the ball the
Starting point is 01:23:16 light just came on power outages out look at you you're back okay yeah but you know there's you get up to go to the bathroom if you're courtside, all eyes on you in that entire arena. I mean, you are on a stage when you're down there. I want to let you know that. I mean, I got to go. I don't want to, like, take too much time. And, like, I go to the bathroom, I take too much time. And they're like, what was that guy doing?
Starting point is 01:23:37 Like, I need – if I'm going, like, it is going to be the fastest I have ever – and I'm going to, like, run back until I get to the floor. Then I'll kind of walk casually and make sure I don't trip and fall or anything. They do describe courtside tickets, though, as like row three and row four. And I've learned that if you're row three courtside, which is just a chair, a fold-out chair in three rows behind, that's actually the worst seat in the house. You can't see. Your feet's on the wood. You're still on the floor.
Starting point is 01:24:03 You're still on the floor, but you're not raised at all from the people in front of you uh you have less room and you're i guess you're kind of can flex so you got to pray to god that you're not like row three courtside because i think that's a little bit of a hustle that they've gone away with i thought i walked in i'm like here we go i'm not doing that all right i will see you. See you guys. Ian, enjoy your night. Hopefully they get power. If anything else happens out of these owners meetings, we'll appreciate the updates. All right.
Starting point is 01:24:32 Well, thank you guys. Pray for me and my seats are not in row three tonight. And I'll let you know how I'm doing and what kind of impression I made on the general public. We'll look for your wife with the blue hair. Ladies and gentlemen, Ian Rappaport. You think she has blue, like, are we talking like
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Starting point is 01:28:15 AJ, you have one of these, and your face is always cleanly shaven. I assume you go face and then manscape, or do you have two? I actually bought a lawnmower back in the day. I don't know what version. It may be one or two. So, yeah. Well, don't get caught left behind because the 4.0 is the best version. It's time to upgrade, AJ.
Starting point is 01:28:33 Joining us now, ladies. Thank you, Jay. Thanks for everybody doing everything today. Yeah. Thank you, everybody. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now is a man who has to deal with terrible tech every single day because he lives in Ohio. Super Bowl champion, national champion, ladies and gentlemen, AJ Hall. Yeah!
Starting point is 01:28:47 AJ! What's going on, dude? What's going on? What's happening, guys? How you doing? I heard this whole show go down. Yeah, whole show went down on YouTube. We were live on Sirius.
Starting point is 01:28:57 Then we get back up on YouTube. No sound. Back off on YouTube. Back up on YouTube. Off Sirius. Sirius has a power outage in New York, which is where they're based, so they can't send the thing to anybody. So then Sirius comes back.
Starting point is 01:29:14 We're back. Can't go to a commercial break now because the break button, the break function has not been activated. So now we are live on YouTube and Sirius. We cannot go to a break on Sirius, which is the way that whole thing works. So we're just going to rock with it, baby. Great to see you. Yeah! Great to see you, AJ.
Starting point is 01:29:31 How you doing, man? I'm doing well. I assume you've already touched on the, what, the A-Rod and Bryson, Phil, and Tom Brady match coming up? We let off the show with that, but what are your thoughts? I'm pumped up.
Starting point is 01:29:42 July 6th in montana the match is back phil mickelson the lucky lefty the oldest human to ever win a major in the pga's 7 000 year career champion takes on bryson dechambeau and aaron rogers aaron has not been golfing he's been jumping off waterfalls he's's been singing Taylor Swift. Is he ready for this? Dee Shambo is not going to play any games out there. I'm excited to watch this. Can't wait for it. And hopefully we'll be able to be at the big time in Big Sky.
Starting point is 01:30:14 Oh, you want to go there? You're going to go to it? Yeah, I'm trying to see who I got to call. I think we should do a live show from that for sure. So this is – who's – oh, TNT. So it's like Charles is going to be following them in the fairway and all that i would assume they're gonna do something similar like that yeah but bleacher report and tnt have a relationship with fandle uh-huh so i think we potentially have a you know a little handshake i think we have a potential way in
Starting point is 01:30:41 don't want to ruin the show don't want to be on the show don't need to be on the show don't have me on the show but i think us live from on the show. Don't have me on the show. But I think us live from there would be hilarious. I think that would be very funny for our show. Now, that's not going to be allowed, I'd assume, because Capital One paid a lot of money, and it's not going to be able to. But I have sent out some lawn darts,
Starting point is 01:30:58 seeing if I can stab the right situation. You could remind Capital One, too, hey, we had the second biggest bracket in you guys march madness thing you know so i mean we are we have worked together we do have we've worked together we have a previous relationship here and i have a capital one cart boom here we go so i mean what are we doing here now the way you guys handled me because of my age and everything like that with how much i was allowed to spend there for like a year was a little bit of a problem. I thought you were judging me a little bit. Okay.
Starting point is 01:31:28 But since then, we've had great conversations. It's great to be a Capital One family member in there. And thank you for the rewards. Okay. Thank you so much for the rewards. I don't know where to get them. But I get a text message telling me that they do come. So I'm very thankful for that. Let's go ahead and do that. Tom Brady's talking a lot of shit though i like it he's cooking right now tom by the way also not at otas voluntary otas he has come out in big support of the players you know kind of standing their ground with this ota thing like this is better for everybody long term he's training i assume they're back at the school they're at he has a sick shirt i mean his new merch has all of his Super Bowls that he's won down the spine. It is a great piece of merch.
Starting point is 01:32:08 He's been training. I can't wait to see how this thing pans out. Well, I think it'll be cool now that Tom jumps out there and is not scared to promote this thing. I think Bryson is going to dip his toes in the water too. I don't know how active Bryson is on Twitter. You guys will know better. You think Bryson, A-Rod, this is going to become a thing?
Starting point is 01:32:24 Because we know Phil's getting in the game for sure I think a lot of people are potentially upset that it's not A-Rod Brooks yeah Brooks's health probably had something to do with that and I assume the PGA was like hey we got this golf ball whacker guy the needle for him moved more than anybody else so Bleacher Report TNT, oh, this is the guy we want to get in here. But with where the world currently stands for DeChambeau, is he just going to go ahead? I mean, is he going to talk? I think he is.
Starting point is 01:32:52 I think he's got to buy in at this point now. And Aaron's his teammate. So does Aaron have to do a little bit of that as well? It seems like it. Yeah, probably. I mean, also just how far DeChambeau can hit it, like it'll be worth it. I mean, I think he adds enough value. And I think they said Rodgers is like a three or a four maybe.
Starting point is 01:33:11 So he's also a very, very good golfer. I'm excited to watch this. Hey, he's a good player, huh, AJ? Yeah, he is a good player. I don't know if he was a three or a four right now. I don't think he's been playing as much lately as he has in the past. So we will see. I'm sure he would not have agreed to it if he didn't feel pretty good about his game though yeah and when do you think
Starting point is 01:33:28 it all came about just here recently you think i mean i would think this had to happen like they had to have phil talking with him before he won the pj correct like this didn't just pop out of nowhere i don't think maybe they're like they had preliminary conversations would you want to do this again if we could would you want to do this again if you could then when tom says let's go again if you could? Then when Tom says, let's go teammate after he wins, and they do it, maybe that's when they're like, now's the time. Let's go ahead and do it. I don't think it was planned before this win, but I think maybe the – and who knows, and this is very dumb for me to say
Starting point is 01:33:57 because I fucking have no idea. But it feels like unless they were working, unless Tom was working immediately after that PGA championship, like, hey, let's remember now we are teammates. Phil responds. It's like we got to match. If they're doing like boxing, WWE promotion, like more power to them, that is awesome.
Starting point is 01:34:18 And by the way, Tom Brady, who does social media very well, would do something like that. Whatever the case, I'm excited for it. I'm pumped for it. And how many times is Aaron going to get asked there, you know, what his plans are if it's not figured out by then? Let's assume that that is now the deadline for everything to get figured out with the Packers.
Starting point is 01:34:34 Let's assume that's what it's going to be. Is Miles Teller going to be his caddy? Yeah, are they going to take caddies, or do you think they'll take the carts like Tom and Peyton did? Well, the carts were because of COVID, right? I don't know. They were a big hit, though. Yeah, I they going to take caddies, or do you think they'll take the carts like Tom and Peyton did? Well, the carts were because of COVID, right? I don't know. They were a big hit, though. Yeah, I love the carts.
Starting point is 01:34:49 And also the GoPro in there. Yeah, and the camera inside there. Got to do the cart. Have to have the carts again. Got to do the cart. Yeah. We'll see. I mean, it's going to be fun.
Starting point is 01:34:58 I think Aaron and Bryson will be a fun dynamic to see those two interact. I have no idea if they have a relationship at all, if they know each other. I would assume they do somewhat. So I think their personalities could be fun together. You think Aaron knows about the Koepka meme? What do you mean? Anything bad is
Starting point is 01:35:15 Bryson DeChambeau and then Brooks Koepka's face. Of course. He does know about that? Of course. Even the Packers kicking a field goal meme? Yeah. From Brady? From Brady. Oh, I haven't seen that goal meme? Yeah, from Brady? From Brady. Oh, I haven't seen that one. Yeah. I mean. I haven't really.
Starting point is 01:35:30 Oh, okay. It's a shot. That's that one. Bryson, happy to be here. Aaron realizing he has to spend the whole day with Bryson. Tom Brady tweeted this out. I like these. Yeah, me too.
Starting point is 01:35:40 I'm a big fan of these. And the guy that he just got tag team partner with is the guy in the back who's being associated with every bad thing that has ever happened in the world. Packers kicking a field goal down seven. Aaron Rodgers. I mean, it is. This is Tom Brady, by the way. Yeah, I mean, Aaron's not mad about that.
Starting point is 01:35:59 LeFleur can be mad about that, but Aaron can't be upset about it. LeFleur can't be mad about anything on SportsCenter. Aaron said, I love my teammates. I love my coaches. Everything else. Me, Tom Brady making memes. Aaron and... People are smart, man. I like this.
Starting point is 01:36:15 Tom is a legend, dude. You know, coaches, a lot of old ball coaches, whenever social media was coming about, they hated it. Why are you spending time distracted with social media? Now, granted, I probably, a lot of old ball coaches, whenever social media was coming about, they hated it. Why are you spending time distracted with social media? Now, granted, I probably got a lot more speeches than a lot of other people because I was doing it, I think, at its very earliest inception,
Starting point is 01:36:35 trying to enjoy my life on there. I thought it was kind of built for me. And a lot of people, why are you wasting your time on it? Imagine if you were just focused on kicking. I was like, okay, when I'm laying in my bed at like nine o'clock at night, what am I, am I supposed to fucking kick pillows?
Starting point is 01:36:50 Like, what do you want me to, am I allowed to just lay there and put a tweet out or what is, am I allowed to, you know, that's not as much,
Starting point is 01:36:55 I mean, I guess I could go back to just fucking housing beers every night. You want me to, I mean, that is something I could do or I'll play video games.
Starting point is 01:37:02 I guess I could play video games till like two, 3 a.m. I mean, that's something to keep me in my brain active, I guess. Or I could just sit here and I guess I can play video games till like 2, 3 a.m. I mean, that's something to keep my brain active, I guess. Or I could just sit here and basically send like a text, but through the internet. I mean, there's, I can see how you think that's bad, but this is, I'm just having a good time over here in my downtime or whatever.
Starting point is 01:37:15 I had that speech given to me a lot. I assume I'm not the only person, right? Juju has probably gotten this, this whole thing. But now it's going to be difficult to give that speech because a lot of people are going to be, oh, the greatest of all time. He does social media better than everybody. I mean, he does social media all the time. Aaron, by the way, he goes on Internet Show Weekly.
Starting point is 01:37:34 Okay, so the two greatest, whatever Mount Rushmore you want to put on this game, they're down with it. So if you can't, that seems like a you problem. I mean, I'm very thankful for Tom's activity on the Internet for all of those reasons plus, you know? Well, I don't think that kids now there's no way they like if you're a coach now, you know, coming up like you can't even have even think about having that talk with someone. It's just a different time. You say it all the time. This is just it's a different time right now and
Starting point is 01:37:57 how they've come up with social media and everything, all the so-called distractions. Like I give them a lot of credit because they seem to handle it pretty damn well compared to what distractions were, say, 15, 20 years ago. That's what I'm saying. I think distractions pre-phone were much more devastating to performance on the field than what the distraction is now. The distraction now is just different than what it used to be, so it automatically has to be immediately hated or whatever by some people.
Starting point is 01:38:26 Not everybody, but I'm just saying some people, you know? I mean, distractions before, like people just bored going and stealing things off of cars, taking accessories, stealing grills off of people's porches. Brawling. Yeah. Brawling in bars. Absolutely brawling in bars and then just walking into the facility the next day what's going on you all right yeah i'll be good i mean god got me pretty good there but what happened always he
Starting point is 01:38:54 said you were something to me did he really yeah had to kill him how did he do it it's like that used to happen and everybody's like oh this twitter this tick talking yeah is ruining the game it's like you know what i used to fucking have you've no you know when they were smoking cigarettes on the sidelines of the games imagine what they were smoking when they weren't on the sidelines of the field what are we even what are we even talking about here what's on sidelines still an incredible thing that they maybe should bring back but i mean coaches are on social media now too that that's how they use it they use it for recruiting now. Chuck Pagano, by the way. Him. He's good on Instagram
Starting point is 01:39:28 and he's retired. He's Peloton God. Grandpa. He loves it. I love watching Chuck on there. I wish Rex Ryan would get on social media. That's something I feel like I let him down. Not motivating him enough to get on there. I didn't get
Starting point is 01:39:43 the chance to ask Sanchez or I forgot. Does Rex really have a tattoo of his wife wearing Sanchez's jersey? Yeah, I think it got covered up. I think it was on his arm or leg. Somewhere, wherever it was. Yeah, he does. And there were some other things that Rex will have to
Starting point is 01:39:59 combat for the first couple months of social media. Wes Walker is an absolute genius legend for him. When he got, didn't he get suspended for a half or something? Yeah. I mean, he's not the only one. There's other people that have done a lot of things. I mean, Baker, I mean, he, uh. But Wes stuck with
Starting point is 01:40:16 it. Wes had like a 90 second spiel where he stayed just stone-faced and he stayed in character. Baker did as well, though. That's the, yeah, so, you know, very impressive what Wes did. I've never met him. I've heard stories. I've seen him celebrate horse winnings
Starting point is 01:40:31 where he got paid more than what he was supposed to. Sounds like that's a Churchill. I'm a big Wes Walker fan. Okay, big Wes Walker fan. But that is something that, you know, Rex is going to have to sit in the pocket there for a couple months. That's right.
Starting point is 01:40:43 And that's like kind of the speech, like, hey, you're going to have to sit in here and take it. But once you get past that, people are going to love you. Because I got to meet Rex. We got to meet Rex, I think. He's awesome. I mean, that guy is incredible. His brother also is awesome.
Starting point is 01:40:57 Oh, man, that would be incredible. Yeah, I think we have the picture of the tattoo, I believe. Yeah, it's on his arm. I thought so. Look at that guy, though, by the way. Fucking walking around in a big unit. How you doing? Keep it moving.
Starting point is 01:41:11 It might not be a Sanchez jersey. Sure looks like it. It might be a nine. She's upside down hanging. Let's go to the phones. Let's go to Nick in Connecticut. What's going on Nick Nick, Pat, how are you?
Starting point is 01:41:28 Huge fan of the show Quick question about the Rogers situation With the Packers Do you think that opens up the division For someone else like the Bears If they start Justin Fields early on Great question Nick Do we have that Cutler video?
Starting point is 01:41:44 I can get it real quick. Yeah, let's go ahead and do that. Of course, if Aaron Rodgers is not on the Packers, it really helps out the other teams. I'm sorry. Is that what he was asking? Yeah. I did not address that immediately because my mind went directly to
Starting point is 01:41:59 Jay Cutler made an appearance on local sports talk radio in Chicago yesterday and was incredible talking about Justin Fields when he was asked there. Let's assume if Aaron leaves and Justin does well, it will have a little bit of a parabolic shift in the NFC North about who's the king in town. But any now chain reaction, whatever division he goes to, there is a quite... You okay?
Starting point is 01:42:25 I just swallowed something. The cicada. Yeah, yeah. Something hit me there. We got, I mean, hey. It's been a wild day. Okay, AJ. I mean, there's a lot going on right here.
Starting point is 01:42:35 This show. Okay, Connor. Thank you. You're welcome. Well, thank you for having a little bit of respect for what we're battling over here while you sit in front of your bookshelf, okay, up there in your attic with perfect air conditioning and the internet very average and that whole thing. We're battling over here while you sit in front of your bookshelf, okay, up there in your attic with perfect air conditioning
Starting point is 01:42:45 and the internet very average and that whole thing. We're battling over here, okay? We are battling. Coming to you live from one of the only two cities that will not allow full stadiums this fall. We have been battling here
Starting point is 01:42:59 in Indianapolis, especially in this office, especially today. We thank everybody for watching and listening. Couldn't go to a commercial break. Have to go to the hard out, though. Very fascinating. One rule is another rule.
Starting point is 01:43:09 We have no idea how this is going to pan out. I assume there's going to be emails that I'm going to have to be a part of here afterwards and calls and things like that, but I will love it. I will enjoy it. It's great to be here. He couldn't bring up the video. Jay Cutler was asked by Waddle and... Sylvie?
Starting point is 01:43:26 Sylvie. They asked Jay Cutler on the phone, do you think, like, Justin Fields, this is a big day or something like that? And Jay Cutler says, do you believe in Justin Fields or something like that? And they said, yeah. And he said, why?
Starting point is 01:43:39 And he was like, why? And he was just fucking with them, I believe. But it really does lend to a conversation. Like, Justin Fields could be the next Aaron Rodgers, right? He legitimately could be. We have no idea. He could grow into the next Aaron Rodgers. He could be the next Andrew Luck, put a team on his back next year and go to the NFC Championship. He could be all those things.
Starting point is 01:43:59 He could also be terrible at football. That's why I think it is very unfair to say like, hey, this and this and this and this, especially with young players. We have no idea whether or not he's going to be good i hope he is i hope he's great i hope he is awesome for his sake for what he had to go through for the draft cycle for the chicago bears sake their fan base sake but who knows dude and that's kind of what jay cutler was saying i think like yeah hey who knows how this is going to go? Who knows? And aren't most people just like they base a lot of how they evaluate a player is what they hear pundits say on TV. Like what somebody tells me their grade is, whatever. Like how many people are truly watching a lot of the film?
Starting point is 01:44:36 Like Dane Orszewski? After him, who else is watching like all the tape? What do you think? Dan watches all the tape? No, but I i think dane definitely watches what he knows he's going to talk about i think he does research for what he's going to speak about i think so too but that is very time consuming oh yeah hey very very time and by the way lonely it is not a you're in a room hold up now some people love this people love watching film
Starting point is 01:45:03 darius butler by the way loves watching film he'll go in there music on all by himself you gotta have a purpose like you have to have a purpose on like you have to have intent and when you're going in to do it like if you sit back and just watch oh hey let me watch the old 22 of this game no it's terrible it's boring but if you are trying to like okay here i'm gonna study this offense's third and medium situations and then once they get in the red zone, like I'm going to figure out what their little tendencies are. What are they like route combinations, protections. You got to have some kind of goal.
Starting point is 01:45:31 If you're just watching it, you're going to get lost. Yeah. He Darius gives himself like homework assignments. Almost the one was like Sam Darnold. He was like, I'm tired of hearing everybody talk about it. I want to go see. And he came back and he was like, he stinks. Everyone's right. And whenever he said that, I was like, I want to go see. And he came back and he was like, he stinks. Everyone's right.
Starting point is 01:45:46 And whenever he said that, I was like, okay, that means, to your point, when I heard D-Butt say that, I was like, I've seen Darius's film study work. I've seen Darius's film study answer questions that other people couldn't answer. I've seen him be a very, very, very intelligent player. And whenever he's, he didn't say he stinks. stinks i think he did actually he said he has the chance i guess he has made throws in film where you're like wow that's very impressive uh but at this moment he stinks and he started breaking down how there was a play and this might be gaze might not deserve this i guess there was a play where donald hit a guy boom then in like the second quarter or
Starting point is 01:46:26 third quarter same play same defense and if he would have known that this one thing was going to be wide open he would look somewhere else and then he looked somewhere else so i think like darius when he watched the film he looked at it like for a mission like okay does this guy stink or not and then he started finding reasons like okay he forgot about this coverage and i assume darius was like that's a massive that's a massive piece of this whole thing you know so you have to pick and choose who you listen to and you also have to pick and choose who you believe when they say they're watching film you know that is a tough game out here that and i've gotten got hey i've gotten
Starting point is 01:46:59 got it we've all gotten got out here by thinking somebody knows what they're talking about and then it you know it turns out they don't. But there's a couple guys and girls on the internet that I enjoy because it's like, hey, there's some there's some things that it feels like have held true. Like Rossini was our go to there for the entire thing. Hey, she knows. She knows. And that's not just film study. But I'm talking about like day to day, especially in this show. We have to be very careful about like who and we've learned
Starting point is 01:47:26 a hard lesson numerous times but that's like one thing where it's like okay russini is to be believed until she proves otherwise and she hasn't by the way so it's like okay she's a shifter is shifter because for long long long time it it's like, okay, Schefter knows. Woj knows. Like here's Joe DiNardo back in Pittsburgh growing up. Weatherman. Joe knows. Until they prove otherwise. But we are in an information-gathering society
Starting point is 01:47:57 where it's tough to believe who to believe. That's a tough thing to do. Yeah, and to believe those people, though, they are not 100%. There's nothing 100% when it talks about evaluating. Jesus Christ. Predicting success, though. You can't predict success. Jay Glazer can.
Starting point is 01:48:13 Jay knew. Jay knew. There's a few people. Hey, also, good shout-out to Joe DiNardo, the weatherman. You know Joe? No, of course not. But I like that you, when you play it off like, yeah, of course everybody knows old Joe. Joe said it would.
Starting point is 01:48:28 Joe said it would. That was the tagline, Joe knows. I mean, there was just genius. There was another Joe in PA who also knew. Yeah. And by the way, that's Joe Patern knew. Okay. That's what everybody was saying.
Starting point is 01:48:43 I didn't say that. I didn't make that up. I'm just telling you joe dinardo though other italian named joe in pennsylvania that pie's on new moment of silence for jet and aro by the way thank you so much for letting me know when i need a raincoat yeah he's very dead thank you joe miss you joe why are you laughing at Joe like that, dude? You knew. Hey, Joe is a legend. Joe DiNardo and Sally Wiggin, okay, got Pittsburgh through Pittsburgh times.
Starting point is 01:49:12 I smell it in there. Sally's still doing it. Sally's still going. Oh, Sally will never stop. She is Pittsburgh, pal. Hell yeah. Let's go to Leo in Indianapolis. And that actor.
Starting point is 01:49:24 I saw that Ozempa commercial with your boy. Oh, Billy Correll. Bill. He did great. He did great. I saw that Ozempa commercial with your boy. Billy Garrel. Bill. He did great. He did great. He's got some quick feet. You never guessed that. He's fucking angry.
Starting point is 01:49:33 Do you think Billy Gardell can make the ticker? I don't know. I can't see the ticker. The ticker's down. Actually, the ticker is potentially the... Could be poison. No, can't confirm.
Starting point is 01:49:44 The ticker did not do any of this. The ticker was an atom bomb. The ticker happens. The ticker's a nuclear weapon. Everything crashes, you know? No, it was just a big update that needed to happen. And you can't control New York power outages. And by the way, Zito is a guy, when talking about tech, I will listen to.
Starting point is 01:49:58 I will also assume that there is a different way to do it. And it's probably whatever. But I don't know the answer to it. Zito got it figured out. I will listen to Zito and Zito production. This particular time, though, there was one move that was made, and everything has crashed.
Starting point is 01:50:14 I'm assuming that that maybe was an interference in that, but you're saying no, it's all happenstance. No, they're two different things, but it just updates. We need them. Shout out to the ticker, by the way. Shout out. Ticker is awesome. We love that the, shout out to the ticker, by the way. Ticker is awesome.
Starting point is 01:50:27 We love that. I love that ticker a lot. Like a lot. I mean, I think it's like, it's a weapon that other shows don't use that you have. Like it's a thing. Whenever I get to see it, it makes me happy.
Starting point is 01:50:37 Honestly, when I just, I cannot wait to see if it's been updated. We talked to the founder of the ticker actually. And, uh, ticker founder, tickicker Stooge. He's not, by the way.
Starting point is 01:50:50 He's like one of the smartest guys. And Zito was talking to him. I was listening off conversation. Wait, the guy that like invented the technology? The company that does this. They've been doing this for a long time. Yeah, over 30 years. They've been doing this for like a long time.
Starting point is 01:51:02 Ticker Stooge, what did he have to say? He's very smart, but I think he'll appreciate us calling him Ticker Stooge. He's become a fan of the show, I think it sounded like, since watching the show. He hated our show. Okay, his nephew or something listened to the show and he hated our show.
Starting point is 01:51:13 Then he's kind of been forced to watch our show because the ticker is now a part of our show. Big fan of the show. Not our demo at all, by the way. Shout out to that guy.
Starting point is 01:51:23 Hey, you're not, Ticker Stooge is a compliment. Thank you, Ticker Stooge. We're listening to him and he was, I was listening to him talk demo at all by the way shout out to that guy yeah hey you're not ticker stooges compliment thank you ticker stooge we're listening to him and he was uh i was listening to him talk and he talks about how nobody really in the history for like 30 years has ever talked about like the ticker but like our ticker is a weapon down there it's like getting a ticker on the show was a massive celebration point for the show like zito came with the hey, I think we got a ticker or whatever. Because I've asked for one for a long time. If we could get a ticker, that'd be cool. Zito Production
Starting point is 01:51:50 figures it out. I think we got it. It'll also be stored somewhere else, like in a cloud so we won't have to pay or whatever. And we started doing it. I fucking love it. And it is a weapon to the show. It's not on right now? It's dead right now. When we rebooted the computer, it had a reset. I's not on right now. It's dead right now. When we reboot the computer
Starting point is 01:52:05 and reset. I have to reprogram it. The ticker just started singing though. I'm coming home. Coming home. Tell the show I'm coming home
Starting point is 01:52:25 Let the upgrade waste away I'll come back with shit to say And I'm the best ticker ever And I am maybe quite a problem I'm coming home. Coming home. Tell the show I'm coming home. I'm back where I belong.
Starting point is 01:53:00 I never felt so strong. All right. That's the show, yeah. That's it. Hour two wraps up just like that. Take it back, man. Hey, Pat, how many other shows can say they had at least two moments of silence on a national radio show? International, thank you.
Starting point is 01:53:18 One for Joe DiNardo. Deserved it. Thank you, Joe. One for a ticker hiatus. Thank you, ticker. Deserved it. Thank you, ticker. We a ticker hiatus. Deserved it. We don't hand them out to everybody, but when they come along, they are worthy. You laughed
Starting point is 01:53:30 in the face of Joe DiNardo, which I will not get over for some time. Despicable. But the ticker did deserve it as well as Joe DiNardo. Can't thank you enough for choosing to listen to the show. The fact you allow us to penetrate your ear holes Monday through Friday, we are eternally grateful for. And I know every day isn't always an absolute banger, but sometimes some cool moments
Starting point is 01:53:50 happen live while we're recording. And that happened today with Vinatieri. You're the absolute best pal, Ian Rappaport, AJ Hawk, all the boys. Thank you for your time. And to all of you, you're the best humans on earth that you allow us to be a part of your day. We're back tomorrow. Big show. Todd, please be a friend and play some independent music and propel these people into a beautiful Wednesday night. Cheers, everybody. Hashtag in the pod squad. Keep that thing going. See you tomorrow. Thank you. សូវាប់ពីបានប់ពីបានប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពី Thank you. Thank you. Altyazı M.K.

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