The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 425 - Feel Good Friday, Darius Butler and AJ Hawk

Episode Date: May 28, 2021

Todays episode Pat and the boys are joined in studio by former NFL DB, Pat’s former teammate and current host of The Man to Man Pod, Darius Butler. The boys are down in Tampa as Pat prepares for another episode of Friday Night Smack DAHN on Fox. Pat opens up reacting to the latest news and rumors popping off in the NFL today, headlined by Julio Jones drama in Atlanta, and Miles Teller being assaulted while on vacation with Aaron Rodgers. Next Pat welcomes on Super Bowl and College champion AJ Hawk to continue the discussion of Julio Jones and to get his latest reaction to the Aaron Rodgers drama happening in Green Bay. Pat gets into some NBA playoff talk to finish off the show with Heat fan Darius Butler. Make sure to subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow and listen every day on Mad Dog Radio, Sirius XM Channel 82. We appreciate you all for listening, come laugh with us, cheers.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello, it is Friday, May 28th, feel good Friday from down here at the FanDuel Beach House in Tampa Bay, Florida. Can't thank you enough for choosing, or you know, like, just making the decision. I don't know if you chose it, it might have just happened naturally, it might have just started up. But whatever the case, the fact that you're listening right now, can't thank you enough for doing that. Alright, there's a lot of things that can penetrate your ear holes. The fact that you allow us to do so, I'm eternally grateful for. Now, today's show, a good feel, good day, good calls, good conversation, good things to talk about. And that Hawaiian fantasy that Aaron Rodgers has been living in may be over with one punch in the mouth.

Let's get to it. I got a spray tan this morning because Friday night's Smackdown is tonight and my fashion choice for this evening required me not to be a pale red-faced caucasian stitch so i got a spray tan it appears as if it is working i'll be excited to watch this thing grow as the show goes on 18334 mcafee for your phone calls we got a lot of incredible things to talk about today and And joining us in the studio, obviously, we got the Bugle Boys. What's going on, Toxic Table? How's it going, Ty and Connor? Very well.

I appreciate you guys traveling down here every week. I understand it's not easy. Foxy and Zito are there. The boys are back in Indianapolis to hammer down boys. Hockey Talk, everybody. How are you guys doing back there? Pretty good? Good.

I think you look good, Pat. I wouldn't be too hard on yourself. Well, thank you. Diggs, thank you guys doing back there? Pretty good? Good. I think you look good, Pat. I wouldn't be too hard on yourself. Well, thank you. Diggs, thank you for that, dude. And I do know this comes one day after AJ Hawk was trying to get you fired as host of your show. And I don't know exactly if there's any potential narrative behind the compliment, but I want to let you know. I'm going to take it because I think you're a man who has a good sense of culture and fashion and look. No narrative.

Just a feel-good Friday, Pat. Hey, you're right. Feel-good Friday. Hammerdown Boys will be live at 4 p.m. Eastern Standard Time, YouTube.com forward slash Hammerdown. That's D-A-H-N. I assume there's a lot of things to bet on this weekend. I have no idea truly about it.

NHL season is over. But joining us in studio every Friday, absolutely legendary human, host of the Man-to-man podcast and also everything db played nine years in the nfl at corner safety nickel you name it ladies and gentlemen darius butler yeah but it's always nice to get down here to florida and uh you know it feels like a piece of us in florida is getting a chance to share time with darius butler both on the microphone off the microphone.

It's great seeing you, pal. Great seeing you guys, too, man. I want to let you know that you and I have been on a story from the beginning, and that's Tim Tebow being signed to the Jaguars. Yeah. And the reason why we had been covering this so much is because it is Tim Tebow. They didn't pay. One's good.

Get it out. I mean, one's enough. I mean, Jesus. They do a good job putting that all over the label. Get it out. I mean, one's enough. I mean, Jesus. They do a good job putting that all over the label. It is delicious. Know that I would be drinking a Celsius right now if I could, but there's no Celsius on the island we're on. We did go to Celsius.com forward slash buy dash locate,

and there's nothing here. We would have to travel across a bridge or two to get there, but we will do that eventually. But the Tim Tebow thing, business-wise, we said, this is what the NFL is, by the way. The NFL is a business, okay? It absolutely is a business. Tim Tebow made Urban Meyer millions and millions of dollars.

So, you know, a little payback God wants to do is he's from Jacksonville. He's a legend in Jacksonville. I assume he sold like 10,000 jerseys day one of going into the NFL there and joining the Jaguars in the city, you know, that he was kind of king of there for a long time and I would assume still is. This seemed like the right move to make. Now we're getting footage of Tim Tebow, Darius Butler. Your thoughts after seeing him run a couple routes,

block some people from OTAs here. Seems like he's getting after it. Looks like he has been lifting more than Bibles, my friend. Yeah, he looks good. I haven't seen any footage. I've seen still pictures, but he looks in shape. I've heard Trevor talk about him, talking him up. You want to be around that guy, great locker room guy, like you said, from

the business standpoint. He was top five last time I was here. I don't know where he is now. I think he was number one, actually, the last time you were there. I'd assume he's still. One, two, three, four, five. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He was top five. Yeah, top five.

Top five, top five. He is top five, top five. The whole thing is him. And do we have any? Yeah, here it is. Look at him. All right, so let's go back to the beginning. So we catch that thing.

It's a little bit blurry. The camera is losing its mind. Get off me. Ah! Ah, a little push off, a little stutter step. He caught two touchdowns. Two little ass off me, Nick. Yeah go back to the beginning. So we catch that thing. It's a little bit blurry. The camera's losing its mind. Ah, a little push off of a stutter step. He caught two touchdowns. Two little ass off me, Nick. Yeah, get out of here.

He caught two touchdowns yesterday in practice in OTAs. He dropped zero balls. I heard Ryan Clark this morning on first take say. These are real stats. This camera's continuing to get blurry. Zero drops, two touchdowns? Zero drops, two touchdowns. Ryan Clark comes out and says, and Ryan Clark seems to be a little bit of a

against the Tim Tebow getting signed to the Jaguars. And I have a lot of respect for Ryan Clark, obviously. But he was upset about the stat that he caught every ball because that's what he's supposed to do. He's a tight end. I just want to let you know, I don't think we knew he was a tight end yet. Ryan, he is a tight end. No. He's catching every ball out there. He's making moves. He's scoring tight end. I just want to let you know, I don't think we knew he was a tight end yet. Ryan, he is a tight end. No.

He's catching every ball out there. He's making moves. He's scoring touchdowns. He's selling merch. This is a home run for the Jags. He's doing everything we thought he would do. He's checking off all the boxes. I'm just waiting for that over-under to change.

It's still at 12? For yards, 16 or something like that. No, it might have been 12 something no it might have been 12 yards okay it might have been 12 years that in that in route i mean darius leonard is gonna eat t-bows lunch if he steps on the same field i think that's what ryan clark was referring to he saw that clip and then he was like okay all right yeah so we must be watching something else yeah well that's what i'm saying look how fast he gets out of that break. I mean. Let's just talk about his pad level, first of all. Okay.

He was low. He was low on. Who was that? You said that was Rob Nankovich. Rob Nankovich is that pad. And he gets. Look at the bend, you know. Left bend.

The athletic. Ah. Boom. Okay. Now he's potentially getting washed right into the ground there. But he is Tim Tebow. He's coming up, pushing him off. This is what? His third day playing tight end?

Yeah, it's early, man. We're getting to see a fawn take its first steps here. Nice tuck. 3,000 days, maybe. And then he'll be on, like, okay, now this guy's a four-string tight end. What is your deal? Look, I've been on the TV train until I saw this. This is so bad.

There's no way. There's no way he's going to catch a pass in the NFL. It's day four. If it's not a two-yard out route. The guy just learned how to put on gloves. Yeah. He just learned to put on gloves. He doesn't get to use the, what are the ones that are like the cutters?

He has to use Nike because he's a Nike guy. Imagine if he got to use cutters. Just wait until you see that. He's going to start. Well, if he used cutters, then his hands would probably get ripped off from his body because they stuck to his gloves so well. Well, you're thinking. There's no way Tebow is going to be running down the seam catching touchdown passes.

I was hoping for it. Got two touchdowns. I was hoping for it. Yeah, on air. We don't know if it's on air. If the Jags go out there. We don't know. Hey, Tebow, we don't know if it's on air.

Don't you even buy into that. Without defense, if they go out there and play a team with 11 guys who are air, then hey, maybe Tebow's got a shot. Okay, so we covered Tebow. All right, that's a good start here. First nine minutes, we got Tebow done. We got the clip done for Tebow. That's great news.

We'll probably have to talk about this a lot more because it does feel as if, especially going into this Memorial Day weekend. Hey! Long weekend for everybody, including us. You know, big time Coca-Cola 600 on Sunday on Fox at 6 o'clock. You know, it's a big weekend. I hope everybody enjoys themselves. But here on this particular Friday, you know, the week before the June 1st deadline in the NFL contracts,

and really, you know, nothing else happening. Julio is still there. You know, there there's really only one thing that is different other than us getting some T-bone footage. You know what that is, Darius? Miles Teller got punched right in the fucking mouth. Allegedly. There are reports now that Miles Teller. Yes. Miles Teller, that Miles Teller, yes, Miles Teller, Kelly Teller, Shailene Woodley, Aaron Rodgers, have been enjoying Hawaii to the 15th degree. Oh, yeah. Jumping off of waterfalls, playing guitar, singing, and dancing,

throwing up the shakas, eating, having a good time. Trolling on the internet. Kelly Teller actually put out a tweet while, or put out the Instagram post while they were learning the Taylor Swift song or something. It said something about trolling the best or whatever, okay? Then all of a sudden, Miles Teller yesterday posted another photo from them at a restaurant saying, celebrating signing with the Packers. Cheers to signing with the Packers. It's like, okay, trolling again here. Trolling again. Like, did Aaron sign with the Packers. Cheers to signing with the Packers. It's like, okay, trolling again here.

Trolling again. Like, did Aaron sign with the Packers? Did Miles tell her? Is this how Aaron said you can get right? You signed Miles Teller, okay, to play a little running back? Okay, if that happens, I do believe the white privilege conversation will come to the forefront of conversations. If Miles Teller was to get signed, and that was what that tweet was alleging to, I was excited for the fall forefront of conversations. If Miles Teller was to get signed,

and that was what that tweet was alleging to, I was excited for the fallout of that. It was going to be big. Who knows what that, it seems like he was trolling a little bit. And then all of a sudden we wake up this morning and TMZ is reporting that Miles Teller allegedly got punched right in the mouth

at a restaurant in the bathroom. We can't guarantee that it is this. By the way, we'll get to all of that. We cannot guarantee that the picture he posted from the restaurant is the restaurant. But I have a theory on how this potentially all came about. Miles Teller, Kelly Teller, posted a picture probably taken by Aaron Rodgers at a restaurant. Or Shailene, maybe it's the server, maybe they're having their own time, who knows. Sitting out front of a restaurant right along the rail.

Seems to be wide open. He posts that thinking he's going to troll Packers fans or NFL fans. He then finds out quickly that that wasn't the only people that saw that. A wedding planner from Hawaii, Maui, is alleging that Miles Teller has owed him $60,000 since 2019. This is all the alleged story. He sees that photo. He goes, fuck, they're right there. His friend goes, hey, you just going to let him do it?

He goes, hey, $60,000, the guy. He's like, no, no, we're going over there. Goes over there, sits down, waits for old Miles to have to go to the bathroom, which we all, he's going to have to go to the bathroom. That's right. We see him partaking. He goes in the bathroom. They punch him right in the mouth.

Now, is this Hawaii fairytale life that they have been living going to continue, or is this thing abruptly end? Darius Butler, your first quick thoughts on Miles Teller getting punched right in the suck hole in Hawaii, in Maui, in a restaurant, hours, or maybe even moments after posting him flexing, signing with the Packers. This is a wild time to be Miles Teller, I just said. Pay your damn debt. 60 grand.

60 grand is a lot of money, by the way. That's a lot of bread. Hey, punching ahead is something that could happen for 60 grand. There's other stuff that could happen with a 60 grand debt. I wonder if Miles saw the guy and was like, oh, I owe you 60 grand. Or did he not even know and just pow, right in the mouth. Oh, no. What are we doing?

I thought I was jumping off waterfalls with Aaron Rodgers and Shailene Woodley and my wife here. Wild times. You're a Packers fan, Ty Schmidt. We've covered this Hawaii trip in depth. Oh, yeah. Because he did the Kenny Mayne interview from Hawaii. Yep. We saw how happy he was in that interview, how happy he was in life, how much he was enjoying Hawaii.

We had heard rumors, and LeFleur had to do press conferences. We had heard rumors that they had tried to reach out, tried to figure something out. Now that Miles Teller, who has been having a time of his life waiting for Top Gun 2 to come back out, he's been punching him out with your thoughts,

Ty Schmidt, on this whole thing. Well, like you said, things are getting a little unsafe down there, so I'd hate it if, you know, but I really don't see any other way that Raj might have to book a ticket home, head back to Green Bay, and suit up at OTA. Oh, you're saying, hey, listen. We don't know what's going on. Who else does Miles tell her, oh?

Bingo. Who else does Miles? If the wedding planner is owed $60,000, allegedly, this is all alleged. I was, by the way, my wife and I were trying to get married in Hawaii. Yeah. We love Hawaii. Hawaii is very much not a punch in the mouth place, by the way. Hawaii is a place as soon as you land there, it's actually just like, oh, this place is fucking awesome.

Like, hey, here we go. Like, it's very relaxing. There's a, you know, you hear The Rock talk about Amana, I believe. Oh, yeah. Amana, you know, and everything The Rock talk about Amana, I believe. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Amana, you know, and everything. It's like an aura, basically. It's like you arrive at this place that is just the best place on earth. The weather's awesome.

The people are awesome. Miles Teller, you know, he gets punched in the mouth for owing 60 grand. I was going to get married over there. You don't have to, but, I mean, it's very inefficient to use anybody but the local florist. Oh, yeah. Okay? The local food, the local entertainment but the local florists. Okay. The local food, the local entertainment,

the local everything. Did Miles Teller just not pay anybody and thought he could just skip back in there? Because if it's 60 grand to the wedding planner, I couldn't even tell you what the floral is probably over there. I was staring at some budgets of what the floor was a beautiful flowers, by the way. Oh my God.

The rain, the weather, the everything, the flowers are gorgeous. I was staring at some by the way. Oh, yeah. Oh, my God. The rain, the weather, the everything. The flowers are gorgeous. I was staring at some of those budgets. Miles Teller might have two or three left hooks coming back at him before he gets off that island. And this is, once again, to the point.

I know we're all locked down. It got pretty comfortable in our living rooms. There's people out there that will still punch you right in the fucking mouth. Yeah. And Miles Teller, I hope that's the last one. But boy, you're right. Aaron needs to get out of there.

He does. What's he doing? Well, and like you said, I mean, 60K to the guy who's doing your suit. What if the caterer who you owe 250K shows up? I mean, guess what? He ain't going to be punching you in the mouth. No, no, no. He's going to be doing a little something else.

But we talked about this. We don't know if Miles didn't pay anybody. We don't. We don't know if Miles didn't pay anybody. We don't. We don't know if this is just somebody potentially popping off getting shot at Miles Teller and saying, hey, yo, it's me 60 grand.

Could be a Packers fan who's just like, hey, listen, asswipe. All right. Enough with the stir in the pot. We talked about it before the show. Hey, listen.

Personal experience as a Big Ten angler, when you are trolling out there, sometimes you're going to catch something you're not expecting or you don't want to find. In this case, a big right hand from a pissed off ooze. A fist fish was found on the other end of the line while trolling for Miles Teller.

We'll keep you updated on that entire thing. Darius Butler, Aaron Rodgers, a Green Bay Packer this year or not it's looking more and more like he will be a Packer this year he's going to take the first snap

you think so is it because of this punch in the face and you think this whole Hawaii fairy tale is going to end or do you think

they're going to get kicked off the island like I think Aaron's probably in very good standing with the island

there's no way they because Aaron I assume everybody on the island is like this is hey this is not aaron rogers fault okay he's been playing our guitars he's been singing he's been jumping he's been doing he loves this place he's the best they're probably not kicking him out but

i do wonder if now there was a time in college where i uh i took a particular batch of mushrooms. Okay? Ooh, here we go. All right. And, you know, when Bill Stewart became the head coach for the West Virginia Mountaineers my senior year after Rich Rod went to Michigan or whatever, because Bill Stewart was so close with all the players, he knew, you know, like how we got around some of the potential tests.

Okay? So he enforced them differently and i think he wanted to get a lot of people out of there that he wouldn't have had on scholarship and wanted to do this whole thing but we could no longer sleep with the visine bottle in between our legs with somebody else's piss go in and take the thing and then just kind of get on and smoke all the dope we want to smoke okay right that we can no longer do that anymore he shut that whole thing down so obviously being creative you know we immediately went into okay mushrooms you're gonna spinal tap hey bill you're gonna spinal

tap us no okay so we'll start trying out mushrooms a little bit not recommended for everybody but i'm just saying you know that became potentially thing that we decided to try a few times what the first the shrooms you don't piss dirty no, you have to spinal tap, actually. The issue, though, with the mushrooms is it can go one of two ways. Okay? It's going to make you 10x whatever you're feeling inside. So you have to have a brain whenever you're going in there. If you are potentially in a point of your life where you are not confident or having second guesses about yourself or maybe uncomfortable with people, you should not do hallucinogens. You should not do mushrooms because guess what? When you're in there, it it's gonna go 10x and you're gonna be like oh my god oh my

god oh my god oh my god and it's like you have to remember you're gonna come down like hey you're gonna come down at some point you're gonna come down but with that being said i think from looking at their vacation trip over there with how much fun they've had i was on this one mushroom trip in college i was having time my life walking around morgantown walking in and out of parties everybody it was the best day of maybe the best night i've ever had in my life me and my roommate i don't want to out him but it was reed okay we were walking we were walking around all right we're just walking around having the best time and i thought to myself i'm like i hope this never ends you know like i hope i hope this never this is the greatest

feeling of all time like the body felt good i was everything was funny everywhere we walked in it was just like celebrations it was like that never happened in morgantown there's always some shit you're gonna run into i was like i hope this never ends i hope this never i think i'm gonna do this forever this is what i'm gonna do forever we need to find said farmer that got this mushroom from the cow shit and we need everything they got said farmer that got this mushroom from the cow shit, and we need everything they got over there. We need that particular type of cow shit mushroom. I'm going to do this every single day.

And Reed's like, I can't do that. I'm going to do this every day. This is my new me, by the way. This is the new me. This is what's going to happen. Then I woke up the next morning, and obviously your dopamine is much different because you enjoyed it all the night before, so you're going to hone in. It's like, oh, my God.

I wondered if that was potentially gonna happen with this hawaii trip because i assume there's a couple conversations over there with people who have enough money to do so where they're like why don't we just do this forever like hey why don't we just jump off these waterfalls uh sing dance have a great time why don't we just do this forever we got the money to do it and then all of a sudden somebody gets punched in the fucking mouth and it's like, oh, fairy tales ever do. I just woke up the next morning. Yeah, there it is.

Yeah, everybody has a plan, you know, until they get punched in the face. But it looked like they had a great time. I don't want this to discount how great of a trip that probably was, Darius,

just because old Miles Tyler had to eat a right from Oos there at the end of the whole thing. Looked like a vibe over there, man. Living their best life. I hope this didn't ruin it, man. Pay your debts, man.

Have you ever... Pay your debts. Pay your debts. By the way, Clyde Christensen, you still owe me 20 bucks. Ooh, come on, Clyde. Quarterback coach for a Super Bowl champion, Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

I'm in your city right now. You owe me 20 bucks. I made a putt in your office. We weren't betting for money at the time. It was just M&Ms, but we had a nice understanding that it was actually cash. And there's interest.

You owe me $22.50 I got a call from him by the way yesterday it was awesome Uncle Jesse was the banker in the facility what a gig in house bankers the shit he's probably seen and the request he's had

hey I'm down $10,000 in the locker room can you please come down and by the way he uncle Jesse got you here we go here we go come on down uh and I believe Ursa also that's the bank that Ursa used on so Jesse has range you know Jesse is dealing with a lot of things I'd assume but he uh he uh the amount of stories have you ever gone on a trip though that you never want to come back from I assume that there's a couple trips that you ever gone on a trip, though, that you never want to come back from? I assume that there's a couple trips that you've gone on in your life where you're like, this would be awesome if this was every day.

It's not. It never will be. But it would be awesome. You've taken a couple good trips, I assume. Yeah, I mean, anytime you're on a good trip, island, water, you kind of get that feeling. You're there three, four days, like, damn, I really got to go back. But I know some guys. One of my young guys actually i went to college with he played probably five or six years in the league and then he just went took his kid and his girl out to costa rica just never

came back there so some people do it hey there are those people you meet at those resorts where the i've worked here for like 17 years or whatever oh yeah i came down on a visit just never went back or whatever it's like, good for you, man. I don't know how you do it. We've all had that thought. We have all had that thought on a vacation. And then you come back to the real world and it's like,

okay, here we go. I want to get back. Let's figure out how we get back there. I thought this was one potentially, you know, Aaron, AJ said there was no way Aaron retires.

Right. No way ever retires. He's got a lot. He said that by the way he said no i'm not done or whatever i'm gonna do my thing i can do both jeopardy and that whole thing i feel like i've been on a couple trips both hallucinogen and vacation wise where i've been like i want to do this forever and i think aaron has the capability to do things forever i wouldn't say no way i'll give it a% chance that what he retires

oh so at least 20 25 he's made a bunch of money bunch of money and you're out there singing I mean and having

smart as hell can do whatever whatever he really wants to do Jeopardy they're saying 10 to I didn't say this somebody said

10 to 20 million a year to host Jeopardy and you live in LA can't he's got that house in the booth get to the post season with Jeopardy as well

you know I didn't think there was any chance I thought there was 0% chance in LA. He's got that house in the boot. Get to the postseason with Jeopardy as well. You know? I didn't think there was any, I thought there was 0% chance. And, you know, AJ was largely because that. I was just like, all right, there's just, there's no way he's going to retire. But as we've kind of dragged on here and gone, like started the summer

and he's been down in Hawaii, I have been like, yeah, shit. He actually might just say fuck it and be done. I don't think he'll retire. Now, remember when he and I were think remember when he and i were talking when he and i were talking he made it before any of this stuff came out it was when the jeopardy was promoting jeopardy i think it was during his jeopardy media run before it happened he said you know a lot of people said you made a dumb decision he in by the way aaron did follow along through that entire thing and i had heard about him i

heard for heard from him through that whole thing like hey good luck almost you know and he saw a lot of people bash me he's like it's worked out pretty good for you right i'm like yeah and then the conversation just kind of went away and then at night i was laying down and i was like was he eluding is he is he like at night i thought that and then the next morning i think that's when aj was like there's no way and i think he went on to Shailene's like Instagram and it was like he's able to do both or whatever

but I mean nowadays dude I mean if he does it there's so much money out there gotta do it here what's that on this yeah just follow up Vinny oh Vinitary you know

there's no way that'll happen Vinitary by the way I assume there's some people that are pissed off with how that whole thing went down oh yeah and by the way there was people at the Colts I got texts from people at the colts

people you know at the colts and they're like hey is this real and i was like what are you talking about like is this we want to put out like quotes and stuff because we feel like but is this vinny just like is this vinny fucking with people or like you know how vinny works like is vinny is this vinny just doing whatever i'm like oh i have, I have no idea. I was like, why don't you ask him? They're like, we have. He's not answering. I'm like, oh. I was like, so Vinny was starting to pot over at the Colts or whatever. And I was like, that's on you to figure it out.

But the fact that Vinny is potentially fucking with the Colts, like, yeah, maybe. I don't know. You tell me. Hey, you tell me, pal. That's so funny to me. Even better if he comes back after doing that. It's hysterical. Everybody wanted me to retire. I said I retired early. Yeah, that's right. About time. They if he comes back after doing that it's hysterical everybody wanted me to retire i said i retired yeah that's right about time uh they were celebrating me i'm

fucking back that'd be such a video move that'd be such a video move no i think vinny was just messing with the one particular person that we were referring to and that's conti yeah the conti conti's the best hey he's everybody's guy yeah the PR people at teams and this is such a niche group of people that have no idea these people exist but these people have to deal with like they used to back in they just have to deal with the media and a couple players and a couple coaches right that's how it all used to be back in the day this person's doing a press conference these are the media people that are allowed to talk they'll tell the story if we need something broke these people do it now it's social media just kind of becoming what it is and every

player basically being its own entity and it's a it being this whole thing this Conti guy was right there at his I think his dad was even in the game for a long time so he knows the NFL he's been around but he was like a junior deputy assistant in this whole thing and then he moved up and then he was the one that had to come he was the one that talked to me every time there was an issue and then it was always just like uh hey man listen listen that's what he would always say i know listen i know but this is what i'm being listen this is what has to happen no tell them to go fuck themselves i'm not gonna do that pat i can't do that it's like well can't you that's you're you're the arbiter that's your job i'm sitting right back there and it's like he had to do that with like almost every situation everywhere at all times and now he's i think

the head guy he does yeah you saw him climb all the way up the ladder he's the best dude he's not an easy job at all trying to keep these billion dollar operations you know pr wise and because there's a lot of shit that happens oh yeah cleaning up dice games in the locker room guys can you can you please fucking not do that now? Come on, guys. Guys, there's a guy right here who just wrote that all NFL players are the worst people of all time. And now he's standing there. And you guys just move the dice game just 10 feet out of the way.

Hey, he came into our locker room, pal. South Sanctuary, buddy. Let's get to a break. The NFL is such an crazy world. That guy works in the NFL. There's a surgeon that works in the NFL. Banker. There's a banker.

There's Hot Rod that works in the NFL. There's Tim Tebow. Tim Tebow is back in the NFL. Easterby. I mean, it is just the Easterby is running in NFL. We'll talk about the Houston Texans, by the way. Coach Dave's got no shot. Coach Dave's got no shot. That guy's got no shot, Coach Dave, down there.

He's got no shot. But the range of humans in the NFL business never gets talked about. The PR guy, Conti, is a good dude. Now, he'll fuck us over sometime. Every once in a while. Because now we're in a media world. And he does have to deal with us every once in a while. And I'll remember it.

I won't forget it. People go through many changes as we get older. Isn't that right? Oh, yeah. For men, one of the less fortunate changes is that testosterone production begins to naturally decrease in the body. Did you know this, AJ? I am aware. For most men, it begins around the age of 30.

And testosterone production declines by roughly 1% per year. My God. So if you live to 130, you ain't got shit left. No. Minus 30. Well, if it starts around 30, this is one of those questions on a test where, you know, begins around 30,

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It says that on his license plate. Ladies and gentlemen, Super Bowl champion, A.J. Hall. Yeah! A.J., what's going on, pal? Is that Roback? Roback! That's Roback! Hey, real quick.

The Roback in my face... Same color. Pretty similar colors right now. Your face is actually much darker than this shirt right now. Your face looks like it got a different spray tan than the rest of your body, especially your neck and your upper chest. Well, you got to remember,

my face is a different color than the rest of my body. I'm Irish white. I do have a red face on it. So it is a little change. I will shower here in about an hour or two and I will turn a completely different tone, but I am cooking right now. I am currently baking

and I'm sure that it's only going to get more and more tan like the equator came down and kissed me itself. But I'm excited to be here in Tampa. Big news today, though, AJ. OK, and it's not how good my tan is and how much of an Ohio State legend you are. It actually revolves around one of your best friends getting punched right in the mouth within the last 12 hours. right in the mouth within the last 12 hours miles teller star of top gun 2 or whatever the hell it is alongside his wife kelly teller shailene woodley and other best friend of you aaron rogers and my best friend as well uh gets punched in the mouth in the bathroom in maui over a wedding debt allegedly worth 60 000 from 2019 i laid out what I thought happened.

He posted this photo, said, I'm signing with the Packers or whatever, and then he's trolling. They're having the time of their lives. They're drinking whatever. Oos, who's owed $60,000 for two years, allegedly sink that. They're right there.

Wait for him to go to the bathroom. Punch him in the mouth. Couple questions to you as somebody who's hung around Miles Teller on a regular basis in the past. How's his jaw? Did he eat this, you think? Or did he owe $60,000?

Did he know he owed $60,000? And is this whole Hawaii vacation over now? I mean, I really don't have any idea. I would assume that they got into like a full-blown fight rolling around the restaurant when I heard he was punched in the bathroom. I'm sure Miles wasn't going to back down. So there's got to be some kind fight rolling around the restaurant when i heard he was punched in the uh in the bathroom i'm sure miles wasn't going to back down so there's got to be some kind of there is some answers there uh do you think aaron was there do you think it was just i don't think aaron was even there why you keep saying like aaron don't you think if aaron was there this would be a bigger story and there would people would talk about oh aaron would aaron had to

break him up or something you would say well aaron didn't go to the bathroom with him maybe but maybe aaron was at the restaurant we don't know who took that photo but the reason why we're talking about aaron being there is because every other video and photo that has come from the tellers in hawaii aaron has been a part of it pal that that is why we but you're right i would assume if aaron was there wedding planner doesn't punch miles teller because aaron probably does a fool like hey what are we even doing here don't even worry about this let's figure this out but I was going to have a wedding in Hawaii I talked about this earlier it's not just a wedding planner

there's floral there's catering there's entertainment there's space what if Miles Teller just isn't paying any of his debts what the hell is going on out there Darius I mean my question for AJ is Aaron more of a break it up guy or a jump in there guy

that's a good question I think honestly Aaron's definitely a break-it-up guy or a jump-in-there guy? That's a good question. I think, honestly, Aaron's definitely a jump-in-there. He's not scared to jump in if he knows it. He's not going to jump in and try to jump in on a fight with someone he's an acquaintance with. But if he's friends with somebody, yeah, I'm sure he's not scared to get in there. I don't know how close they are. Seems like they're very close.

But I don't think Aaron should be jumping in the middle of oos and miles teller over $60,000 debt okay when there's a couple hundred million dollars probably right around the corner of this hawaiian trip you know just i i like the fact that he's like hey i'm gonna get in there okay and i'll mix it up or whatever but i bet your miles teller would feel terrible at the end of the day hey i'm sorry i don't pay my fucking debts and you lost out on a couple hundred million or whatever i I'm sorry about this whole Hawaiian vacation having to come to an end. Have you been invited out there? Are they just going to stay there forever? I've been on a couple trips that I've had that happen.

Do you think that's going to happen here? That they're just going to stay there? Yeah. Yeah, maybe. I mean, they don't have any kids. I don't know if Aaron's still there. He didn't have any kids. You don't have anything pulling you back, do you?

Well, that's what I'm saying. I said this earlier. You told us there's no way Aaron retires. Okay? That's what we're talking about. It's rising. He was at 20% earlier.

I thought, after our first conversation before Jeopardy aired, so this is a long time before all this kind of became the way, he said to me, you made a leap

and people called you an idiot for it out of nowhere. You know, and I've always had respect for that a leap and people called you an idiot for out of nowhere, you know, and I've always had respect for that or whatever. And I thought about later, I'm like, Oh, this guy's going to retire.

He's going to host jeopardy. He's going to get the job. He wants a job. They like the job. The ratings are up. He did well. I mean, he got better every single show.

It's, this is going to happen. He's, he's in Hollywood now. He's got a house over there. He's doing the whole thing. He's, he's a MVP.

He's made a bunch of money. He's won a super bowl. He's a guy in my head. That's how I operate too. That's how I think. So literally I got to the conclusion. He's won a Super Bowl. He's a guy. In my head, that's how I operate, too. That's how I think. So literally, I got to the conclusion, oh, that's what he's doing. He's retiring. Then I woke up the next day.

Then I saw Shailene Woodley's IG where he was like, I can do both. I'm still going to play. You said there's no way he retires or whatever. I start seeing these Hawaiian trips. I want to let you know. It was not a hard thing for me to dive back into the mindset of oh this guy's fucking done with football even though i don't know aaron like that haven't talked to aaron i could see how you potentially enjoy the hell out of your life you've made enough money you've accomplished a lot you got other things that are available for you 10 to 20 million dollars a year

i've been told is what they would pay to host jeopardy let alone anything else he would want to do which venture capitalists i assume he'll get into other businesses, maybe other things. He might start his own companies, who knows, or maybe he just does nothing. I could, I could think how he could, you know, see how he could get into a spot where, you know, I'm going to retire. You don't think that at all, huh? You think football still definitely happen in AJ? Yeah, I do.

And I mean, there's a reason Warren Buffett still works. There's 95 year old billionaires that still work every day. Think about a guy like Aaron Taipei, like driven, one of the most competitive guys on the planet. He knows he just won the MVP. You think he's like, oh, Hawaii's pretty cool. This is nice. I'm just going to hang out here for the rest of my life.

And also his fiancee is a working actress as well, so she's going to shut her career down too? Like you really think she wants to do that? Okay, listen, I understand that I'm maybe being a little bit dramatic and see how happy he is okay over there and i don't know aaron as much as you though so like that's something where i'm just guessing too i'm just telling you by like i cannot imagine him walking away when he knows how good he still is well that's and by the way i kind of thought that about vinatieri with his last season how it went and how it wasn't great i was was like, there's no way.

Until he says it, and I guess this is why everybody, I guess, it was such big news when he actually said it. But I thought there's no way. And then you hear like, no, he was trying. Yeah, he was. Adam Vinatieri was like, yeah, I'm not going out like that. So I was like, okay, I did get the right read on my guy, but his body wasn't responding how he wanted it to. You saying like, Aaron, there's no way Aaron is just going to be done. Like body wasn't responding how he wanted it to you saying like aaron there's no way aaron is just going to be done like that's not how he's driven that means

a lot and that is probably exactly what you said the last time i assumed he was retiring and i got completely out of it darius butler though has gone from 20 to 30 are you back down now after hearing really close friend one of his very close friends talk about him there still at 30 okay because it's the opposite because like vinny like you said he had a season that wasn't great so the competitor and it's like hey i got to get back out i can't go out like this you know a rod just got an mvp so it's pretty nice to retire on top i will say you know yeah going out the most valuable player yeah it's not a super bowl but you know i will say you know because the rest of your life now people are going to say is he he coming back? He can come back.

For instance, for me, anytime somebody punts bad or kicks bad, they're like, Pat's still got it. Pat's still got it. Hey, this guy was a pro bowler last year. He can still do it if he wanted to. People will say that forever, by the way, until I'm the age that people think I can no longer do it. And could I go make an NFL roster if I wanted to right now?

Yes. I mean, that's something I could do. But there's never a thought like I'm going to go do it unless it's the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and there's a chance maybe to kick and punt, you know, for one game or so to think about. Should we check on luck every three months? Exactly.

That's what Aaron would get forever. Aaron would be like, oh, hey, somebody needs to go to Malibu, court Aaron, get him on this roster. If he was on this roster, this team would be unbelievable. And it's like, Aaron's still jumping off waterfalls in Hawaii, pal. I don't know. I don't know if that's going to happen. You're saying you don't see that from Aaron at all.

No, I do not see him just walking away. No. But I do think Brandon Jacobs should make a comeback, and I think the Jags should sign him. Okay, so let's talk about it. By the way he said that someone needs to give me a chance dn whatever yeah you can play dn brandon but i want to hand you the ball a few times a game too he's a monster he's where uh you played with him you

said played against him multiple times yeah have fun tackling that dude yeah well by the way i got a chance to play against one time he was on the niners and uh he was so frustrated with what was going on he went to hit his helmet off the bench you see, and he was so frustrated with what was going on, he went to hit his helmet off the bench, you see, and he ended up throwing his helmet 14 rows into the crowd at Lucas Oil. Okay? 14 rows. It was awesome.

I've never seen anything like it. Everybody feared him. When him and Ahmad Bradshaw were in the backfield, that thunder-lightning combo for New York was awesome. And Ahmad Bradshaw, by the way,. That thunder lightning combo for New York was awesome. And Ahmad Bradshaw, by the way, one of the coolest dudes to ever exist. Very lucky to be his teammate in Indianapolis. He was awesome. Brandon Jacobs, though, I like his take.

I like his take. Tebow ain't more athletic than me, okay? If anybody wants to give me a shot, let's go ahead and do this thing. I'll be able to figure it out. But this happened. Who was the wide receiver? Calvin Benjamin. Calvin calvin benjamin was like i'll go to tight end okay what if this does start happening where guys may be at their positions for whatever reason it's not working anymore and they're like uh you know maybe i'll transition to another position now

in the nfl the best players are going to get on the field, you hope, unless there's draft picks or contracts that get involved and there's politics and everything. But if a guy's going to get out there and tackle the quarterback, there ain't a single coach on earth that would give a single fuck that he's a running back or old. Can he tackle a quarterback? Yeah. Get his ass out there.

I like this whole thing, D, but you coming back, you going to play a little bit? What are we going to do? Come on, D, bud. Nah, I'm done. But, I mean, I don't want him to get a shot if he wants one. I don't think he'll get one, though. Bree Jacob.

What is he, 38? Is he 38? Yeah, he's older than me. He looks like a monster, but, I mean, he's going to a completely different side of the ball, completely different positions. Yeah, but that's logic. If he's going to come back. You're talking about logic.

Yeah, I mean, guys change positions all the time, like know in their 20s why though think about though d but if if brandon jacobs wants to come back why doesn't he come back as a running back why try to play a position you haven't played in is like one of the most technical things you have to work on every single day like pass rush moves you can do that cool but we want to we want to have a few packages on offense too if you make exactly and i don't fully understand how Tim Tebow going to tight end is the direct equivalent to him playing defensive end, but I do like the thought that if Brandon Jacobs thinks he can do it, I think he can do it, too.

That's how I feel. And he just needs to go to Robert Mathis, okay? Do like six, seven months with Robert Mathis up there, a gridiron gang. Get it all down. See if he'll know if he's going to be able to get it or not with all the technical stuff. You're though by the way the hand the get off the stance that's tough it's very just to look natural just to look like you're supposed to be there in your stance and everything which i'm sure brandon does look like and he's definitely

physically gifted and still works out a lot but i mean that's such a specialized position listen to two like outside rushers just have a conversation during the game, throughout the game, and be like, oh, okay, this is not – they're not just trying to run upfield and tackle the quarterback. Oh, they're playing chess as well. Oh, okay. They're some of the greatest athletes of all time. They're incredibly powerful.

They have great discipline with their technique. And they're also playing chess. But, by the way, Brandon Jacobs knows that, right? I mean, he knows that, I would assume. He's been around. If he thinks he can do it, I am not doubting him. But I do like the fact that he's like, I'm fucking more athletic than Tim Tebow. Okay?

What are we? I do like that that's potentially a narrative. Did people come after him? Did he have to shut his mouth after they showed the footage from yesterday's practice where Tebow just lit it up? What are your thoughts on that footage? Lit it up, huh? Didn't you say he did zero drops, right? Two touchdowns, zero drops, and we saw him get off, hit a bag, and cut very quickly.

Are they allowed to do seven on? I don't know. That's why I was asking D, but I think some teams are. Minnesota Vikings have them wearing soccer goalie helmets. Yeah. Oh, can I see that? You have a picture of that? I don't know why I haven helmets. Yeah. I see that. You have a picture of that. I don't know why I haven't seen it.

Look at that. Hey. Wow. Go back to pausing this, Zito. You know when to pause it. Look at that dip, dude. Look at his shoulder. Oh.

Look at that dip. That coach has no chance with that pad. No chance. The pad is an unfortunate spot to be in, and I've seen plenty of men get dumped on their asses because they weren't ready for it. I couldn't do it, by the way, so I'm not saying that I could do better, but that is a unfortunate spot to be in, and I've seen plenty of men get dumped on their asses because they weren't ready for it. I couldn't do it, by the way, so I'm not saying that I could do better, but that is a tough spot to be in when you just got Tim, Tebow, Keto, God running at you. Look at that first get-off step.

That looks bad. Well, it's paused, obviously. He also just added 50 pounds of muscle. Yeah, what do you want from the guy? It's terrible. Look at that. Rip, rip, rip. It's terrible.

Good getoff. Boom, first down. Did you see that leverage, AJ? There ain't nothing anybody can do to that. Tie hit at best. Boom, first down. That's all that matters. Move the chains.

That's what Timmy does. What, and he doesn't drop the ball? No. No. Probably won't the whole time during OTAs. From seeing Tebow, do you guys think Brandon Jacobs, without any training, could get by Tim Tebow or could Tim Tebow block Brandon Jacobs? That's my question for you.

Hey, Tim Tebow doesn't have to block Brandon Jacobs. He doesn't. In this hypothetical, it's, you know, four- I live in the hypothetical where all Tim Tebow does is catch touchdowns. Okay, yeah, but it's a running point. He's not blocking anybody. It is today. He's potentially a chip. You're saying he's not getting off the line?

Is that what you're thinking? You're thinking he's getting a shot there? I'm saying, you know, there's five guys. There's a blitz coming. It's Jacobs and Tebow one-on-one. Who's winning? Timeout. Trevor Lawrence has got to read that.

He's got to timeout. And then they go back with the same play. And it's Jacobs and Tebow. Tim Tebow's going to have, okay, his technique dialed in. So you're saying Jacobs is blowing Tim Tebow up without any training. Is this Brandon Jacobs post-Robert Mathis, pre-Robert Mathis? This is pre. Right now?

Yeah, right now, no training. Him off the couch. That photo that he posted, him shredded, huge. Dude who threw his helmet 15 yards into the goddamn stands is he blowing by tim tebow yes or no at this point tim tebow i think is taking an l in that particular yeah but that's not who we have to compare it to is brandon jacobs able to do that to george kittle is brandon jacobs ever able to do that to these other top tight ends that's a real conversation okay absolutely and so you know right back at you

is tim tebow going to be able to do that to deforest buckner you know deforest buckner's in the middle of the thing so let's hope not but if he does get quitty pay out there i don't know how he's yeah i don't know what he's gonna do with old quitty pay von miller uh khalil mac the list goes on and on there yeah he's not gonna have to block him though he's in there he's catching touchdowns and moving the chains. Why doesn't Brandon Jacobs come back as a tight end? We know he's athletic. He can handle the ball.

Why not that? Why does he not want to be on offense, you think? I don't know. Because he wants to just wreck shop on D for a little bit. I do. I'm more athletic than Tebow. There's no way.

Had to throw that in there. There's a lot of people thinking that, by the way. You know, OGs who kind of maybe still got a little athletic burst, playing against their kids in knockout or whatever like you. And then all of a sudden Tebow's able to play baseball, football, another position. I'm more athletic than Tim Tebow. He's ready to go, though.

Hey, that looks like defense. You don't think his get-off is going to be good, AJ? No, I do think it. I said he will. He was a professional football player. He was a great running back and a giant dude. Yeah, it's not like it's going to be completely foreign to him. By the way, Brandon Jacobs saying,

I ain't wearing no short-ass shorts you motherfuckers are wearing nowadays. Yeah, man. Okay? This ain't. I ain't it. I thought the same thing. I ain't it. I'm wearing these basketball shorts down to my shins because that's what we do.

OG. OG. I don't know about those thighs, skies, how shit you guys are doing now. Everybody's rolling their shorts up, by the way. Soccer players started doing it. Now everybody in OTAs are starting to do it. NBA started doing it. I think the Hoopers started that.

No, soccer players did. Yeah? Yeah, yeah. Nobody saw it, though. Yeah, nobody. I don't know if the basketball players did not see it. Listen, I'm not assuming that the NBA saw what the soccer players had been doing. But, like, Cristiano Ronaldo has been a thirst trap his entire life.

He has his. Oh, that's his thing. Yeah, it's like his thing. Yeah. But I love it. LeBron bought Liverpool, saw them doing it, and then brought it to the NBA. Oh, it's kind of like, you know, seeing soccer players with arm sleeves and then getting half of it done. Right?

Yeah. Yeah. I'm going to finish it this season with the Euros or next year with the World Cup. I'll figure it out. He watched the World Cup, saw all the players with sleeves, tatted sleeves, and he was like, I'm getting one of those tomorrow

because Diggs is very much of what he's watching. He has that cowboy hat on because he's Kevin Costner in Montana running a gangster family. That's what he's currently in right now. But at the time of the World Cup, because he was all the way in, he was Chris Yonder and all that. He was Lionel Messi. He was every player over there had cool tats.

And he scheduled appointments. He got the inside of his arm completely done. World Cup's ended. He's out. The outside of his arm's still not done yet. So he needs the next World Cup to really come through. He's going to be able to finish it off. It looks sweet, though, Diggs.

It does. Thanks, man. Appreciate that. D-Bud actually told me that's what he did with his sleeve. He was like, wow, the World Cup's amazing. Soccer players, is that why you got it? Yeah, that's exactly why. Hey, that watch is really cool.

How can I tap into the World Cup when I watch those games? We're not sure. I think next November. Next November? But listen, when it happens, it is all day. Oh, yeah. It is all day. It's like the Olympics.

You're all in it. You're cheering for people. I don't even know if we're in this one. Our fandom is. World Cup. Oh, yeah. Holistic. We're back.

We're one of the best teams in the league this year. We are in this one. Oh, yeah. Okay. I didn't know we lost one of them. I know our women are usually good. I think that was. Yeah, the women have always won. They've dominated. Okay. I didn't know we lost one of them. I know our women are usually good. Yeah, I think that was... Yeah, the women have always won.

They've dominated. Our men's team have notoriously stunk. Yeah. Until now. Until now. Now we got the guys. We got the guys now. Got the ponies.

Don't read into any of the atrocities that are being committed while they're building the stadiums for the World Cup, though. That'll really put a damper on your day. A lot of deaths in that desert. A lot. Where is it again? It's in Qatar, in Qatar. They decided that they would put the World Cup,

not because they got paid hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars to do so by somebody in Qatar, however, whatever you want to, Q-A-T-A-R, but because it was the most reasonable place. This is what FIFA, it was the most reasonable place. I think average temperature, 135 degrees or something like that. They had no stadiums built, none of them at all. But we got enough time. We'll just send people out there and build them.

Everybody's dying out there building these stadiums. Oh, yeah. He's drunk. That's why it's in November. It's in December. It's in December. There you go. Because it's so goddamn hot.

They got to do it during the winter. But it was because of them having the best facilities, obviously being the best place to host the World Cup, not because of the embezzlement, greedy corporate fat cats up at FIFA making that decision. Beautiful stadium, though. Beautiful stadium. If you can get over the fact that you are playing on top of a mass grave,

then it is a beautiful stadium. And what do we do? Do we watch to support so that they didn't die in vain? Or do we not watch because there is bodies all over the floor? That's a great question. Hearing that it is in December, I'm probably not going to watch. And I like when it's in the

summer months. You got Euros in two weeks, boys. What are those? We don't care. This is America. All day. 9 a.m., noon, 3 p.m all day long who's playing all the top european squad clear my schedule can't wait it's the world cup for europe yeah well it doesn't sound like the world to me because america's winning the world cup and if we're not invited to their little european game

we're thankful for it because we want the war actually to get out of that fucking tournament. I'm not watching. I'm watching that. I'm not going to watch that because I'm going to stand with what went down. Not everything that went down, obviously, the more and more we learn. But the decision that was made that we don't we don't mess with the queen anymore. OK. And that was just a decision that was made long ago.

It didn't officially happen until years after 1776. But I will... Are we going to make a lot of money off of that, Gumby? Yes, sir. Okay, I will watch. Gumby's going to bet. You feel good? Are those all the A teams over there? Yeah, so England, Germany,

France is stacked this year. Mbappe, Benzema's back, Griezmann, they're loaded. What about Portugal? Portugal is still in it Ronaldo could throw him on his back one more time they won the last one

what about Argentina nah they ain't in it they're in the Copa America that's another tournament happening at the same time with Brazil what the hell so no Messi

no Messi in this one coming up he's in the Copa America he quit that Argentinian team like five times though hasn't he yeah every time he misses a penalty he just retires.

It's not a bad move. I respect it. Let's go to Ross in New York. Ross, what's going on, pal? Hey, what's going on, man? Happy Friday. Happy Friday to you too, Ross. Thank you, thank you. Just a question.

When you, as a former you thank you uh just a question when uh you as a former player you hear your quarterback come out and say that they didn't know the playbook uh very well uh how does that make you feel and also pat what are you going to do with your 20 million dollars from aj thank you ross i will spend it on two houses i've already sent him to aj he knows what he's going to have to buy they're very nice. I'm sure he's proud of it. Tua, rookie, said he didn't really understand the playbook in the reads and everything last year that made him tentative.

I don't think anybody is judging a rookie quarterback for that. You're in Miami. What are your thoughts on that whole thing? I mean, yeah, that's part of it. That's not on him. That's not wild to expect. Mahomes came out after winning the MVP saying he still didn't know how to read defenses. So, partly on the coaches, but he's a young guy. He's got plenty of wild to expect. Mahomes came out after winning the MVP, saying he still didn't know how to read defenses.

So partly on the coaches, but he's a young guy. He's got plenty of time to learn. I think the rookie quarterback curve is something everybody expects. Peyton Manning threw the most interceptions in the history of the league his rookie year, and everybody was like, yeah, he still got it. Joe Burrow was dead a couple times. They did not win a lot of games. He's like, yeah, he'll figure it out.

I think it's just something that's understood. With Tua, there's a lot of other things it's like it may be the playbook is the the main problem but i think he didn't think a lot of people were open that were open in the nfl standings and he was gun shy on throwing it i think that's one thing but maybe it's because he didn't know what the fuck was going on with the offense which could also lead to all those other second guessings there was none of that with luck when he came in, he was just so smart. He just kind of. He knew the offense better than everybody as soon as he got on the field.

Yeah. He made a check the first day of OTAs because he missed the first four weeks of OTAs or whatever because he was graduating in architectural engineering from Stanford or whatever. So he had to do that. He showed up, made a check to something that we had not covered yet. And they actually had to stop. And they were like, we haven't got there yet. Okay.

He's like, oh, sorry. You sent me the iPad like a day ago and I just got your phone behind he probably got the playbook a few weeks before the draft too yeah I would assume they already knew that

yeah he's a sharp sharp dude he had an actual photographic memory oh shit luck did yeah luck at it that's why

is that like can you can you measure that somehow though yeah I think if you just look at it and he got it I think that's it. Because I guess that was what happened.

They would show him something, and then he would just look at it. It was like, okay, it's over. Where Peyton, he had to continue to – there's two different ways of, I assume, schooling and learning and everything. Are you a visual learner? Do you learn better by reading text? Yeah, what is it? Yeah yeah i'm a big reader like i like to see not reader i'm a big like i need to see it i couldn't read a playbook and tell you what the fuck it is i need to see it and write it out i need to see it and write it like right hand write it out not even

even typing it does help but if i see it and i write it or even if i reproduce it like that's that's how i learn you know fuck it what hell yeah suck it from the office no you I reproduce it, like, that's how I learn. You're going to fuck it? What? Hell yeah. Suck it from the office? No, you said reproduce it. Are you going to fortify it? Yeah, make a copy almost, I guess. Oh, okay. Oh, okay.

Hell yeah. You guys had to do the... Thanks, Zeke. My boy, Zeke. You guys had to do, like, the quizzes, right? Where you had to draw in shit? We had, like, the night before the game, we'll the quizzes, right? Where you had to draw in shit. We had like night before the game, we'll have quizzes,

certain checks that we need to know based off, you know, motions or shifts or something like that. But some people like everybody learns different. Some people you can meet, meet, PowerPoint, everything to death, but they don't get it until they do a walkthrough. The walkthrough is what all the coaches wanted, right? The walkthrough is like coaches want that. Now with the Vikingsings have we got these photos of the vikings the minnesota vikings have introduced soft pads and they have these uh helmets on that are goalkeeper from soccer helmets on dalvin cook here high schoolers i see high schoolers wearing those in seven on

seven oh yeah yeah yeah big seven on seven thing once again started in soccer i do believe but peter chach they won't get credit for it. All their OTAs, they have to wear these? I don't know if they... It looks like Dalvin Cook is smiling, which I'm pretty thankful that... I'm sure the Minnesota Vikings are pretty thankful that he's smiling about that. Because that is exactly what I think Darius talked about,

AJ talked about, J.C. Tretter talked about, and everybody that talked about these OTAs, where it's supposed to be half speed and it's just walkthrough and all this. Whenever add that helmet on you got a little skeleton on people are going to fly around this can become a full speed practice where if there is an edge to be had to potentially look better on film to maybe get a job to support your family where there's only a certain amount of jobs people are going to take it people are going to go i like that this helmet's on dalvin cook seems to enjoy that this is on. But this is a sign of like, oh, these practices are about to get a little bit more intense

if they're thinking about this. Don't you think, Darius? Extra safety, man. I think it looks very stupid. Oh, yes. I mean, if he's going to throw that on and just put on a helmet or like nothing. I mean, we're pros. We know how to practice.

Like, we're not going to bump heads in a walkthrough. Like, come on. What do you think here, AJ? I mean, coaches may like it better than just like wearing hats and having a walkthrough like come on what do you think here aj i mean coaches may like it better than just like wearing hats and having a walkthrough maybe they probably think it makes the players like dial in a little bit more but with how dumb those helmets look i can't wait till the footage comes out of the first real fight during ots you guys so pissed trying to like how do you with that weird no face mask thing yeah Yeah, it's John McClain.

Everything's changing. Diehard, right? John McClain, Western Diehard. This particular John McClain, though, will die hard as a Houston Texans coverage guy or media guy. He's the guy that breaks all the news out of Houston, basically. I think he's been around a long time. He is not happy with the new rules they are enforcing at OTAs. John McClain put out a tweet this morning that said they were given a notebook with the players on there for media.

No names, no numbers on anybody. So watch in the practice. There's no names. There's no numbers. There's no nothing on anybody. They're keeping that thing locked down. Media doesn't need to know who's doing well. Casario Easterby said,

only God can judge anybody anyways. Why do we have any numbers on anybody? I'm sure coaches are pumped about this. Coach Dave has been thrown right into a fucking fire. Every press conference he has, I wish the media would be a little bit nicer to him. He said everybody is participating in a Zoom call. Follow-up question.

Everybody, including Deshaun? I'm not talking about deshaun obviously this guy is going into it john mcclain's not happy that whole thing with the media and we talked about this with the dallas cowboys the media and fans were allowed their entire practices entire they're allowed in the indoor facility if you pay enough you can get into the club which is like a v area. You can watch our practices. I don't, that whole, a lot of people that I've encountered, if the media got to see nothing of practice and know nothing of what happened,

they would be very happy about it. It's not good for the business and it's not good for us, obviously, in the world we're in. But the whole keep the media kind of blind to a lot of stuff in the fans and potential enemies and spies and however you want to view it that is how everybody thinks I would assume that Casario felt good making this rule about OTAs so McClain be pissed off about but other people are going to want to do this as well this is kind of the old game of information is the king in this whole thing and if you can keep info from anybody else you're going to to do so. But they're not the first ones to do this.

I mean, the Patriots do that. They, a lot of times they're wearing t-shirts. I know Matt Jones is wearing what number 50. So do they hand out rosters to like the Patriots beat writers with their, their new guys in their weird old, like first numbers? I'm not sure. Darius. So like,

was there anything that you recognize or saw where people were trying to hide things from the media that would come in? And the media would only come in in Indy for the first, like, period. So it was very quick. There's other places. They're there for, like, half the practice, I guess. Oh, yeah. New England. Stretch.

They should only be there for stretch, usually. Yeah. How do you even do anything with all that in there? I don't know. I mean, you want to, from a football standpoint, you want to keep as little out there as possible and uh obviously nick nick cassero new gym there he's coming from new england but um there will be times during the season where it'll be certain guys say i was injured and i wasn't going to practice but i'll come out in my jersey and do stretch do warm-ups maybe do a little bit of indie and then as soon as the media leaves i'll go back in the training room

so the media said oh you know so-and-so was on the field. A.J. Hawk was on the field practicing. He didn't really practice. They may put limited participants and bullshit like that, but we used to call it the dog and pony show. So everybody plays these little games. You know, some teams, but some teams, like you said, they put all the information out.

Yeah, we plan on doing this, that, the third, but not a good move from the football standpoint. And by the way, you doing that, the reason why you're doing that is because if you're out and this might have been when you're at nickel or i don't know where you are if they know d butts out like the best nickel corner in the league at this point it's like okay so if he's out he's not practicing we should set some things up to attack whoever's going in here like all that little information it might sound so minuscule and even in the background of a live report you see there's people in here. Like all that little information, it might sound so minuscule. And even in the background of a live report, you see there's people in buildings,

there's people in buildings watching all of that shit. It is even that little piece of information. It's like, Hey, I think we potentially is, they said he was practicing, but we looked at it. He was,

he was kind of standing in the back. He had a thing on like, like all that stuff. Everybody, whatever it is to win a game yeah like that's why the question about hey trevor do you think you gardner and tiba are going to be on the field at the same time it's like trevor was very nice like i hope so whatever ask like one of the coaches there's like who the fuck no if it's gonna win us again okay we'll do it like

that whole thing of like it's just it's fascinating how people think it operates and then how it actually does operate it's like every advantage is trying to get taken advantage like every single thing is trying to get taken at this point and you're talking about the paranoia of the colts coaches when like a plane or anything would even fly over the practice every coach yeah everything in belichick's trying to you know see what's going on over there that's like what's that blimp doing? Is there a race in town? Why is that thing? Who's up?

Ah, fucking Ernie's up there. Every coach. So you're right. Not everywhere is like that. I think that is why the Cowboys may be. Not enough paranoia. And they don't even know. Even like hotel rooms.

You leave a little printout or something in your hotel room. Going out to eat. Patriots may have some housekeepers on staff. Chefs, when you eat down in the team eating area at a hotel or somewhere else or whatever, if there's normally a ballroom or a room, we don't know where those chefs are at. You leave something on your table, they clean that up. I mean, there is, that shit is happening in the NFL, by the way. I don't want you.

I think I told you on the show before, Pat. We played a team, and one of their very prominent players left his game plan in the locker, and our coaches got it and got a lot of the signals, different pre-check, all of this stuff they could use the next time we play. And, by the way, they did. There are stories our coaches told me of them chasing down somebody's like um somebody's papers got blown and they like uh got taken off or whatever and somebody on the opposing team who's on the sideline of a game saw one of the sheets like get blown somewhere and they were like hey go get that and they're like sprint down there like grab it mid-game they're like

that is an intel an intel gathering mission is something that happens a lot. That's why I think when Spygate happened and it all came out to be what it is, and there's more news rolling out about that, by the way. Politics has made its way into my timeline again with Spygate details being released now that weren't happening then. I think you heard a lot of coaches and players like, okay, what they were doing was blatantly, you can't go that far, but if they can get people signals, they're going to try to do that at all costs. It's just like, you know,

that's why I don't think you hear as many NFL players kind of shout out about everything the Patriots have done because they're like, we all... Still got to make the play. You still have to execute. You still have to make the play, even if you know exactly what's coming. Let's get to a break here.

Yeah, we had the Super Bowl too. Like, you know, you didn't win the Super Bowl during that Spygate year, so I was like, who cares? They couldn't do it. Oh, so that's all that matters, just winning the Super Bowl. What about all the other teams that were fucking working their asses off, living everything how you're supposed to live, and they don't even make it to the Super Bowl.

That's all that matters. Absolutely. Winning the Super Bowl is all that matters. Just win. But it is funny to think like, oh, he's deflating balls. He's a fucking cheater. And there's like probably some quarterbacks are like, let's not dig into this too much.

I don't care if that ball looks like a raisin. Who cares? He still has to throw it. Yeah, he still has to throw it. He still has to catch it. He still has to dissect the defense. You know what I mean? He didn't, by the way, that game. Dequell picked him off. Yeah, that's right. Which is why this all happened. Dequell, by the way, freak athlete. So sorry to interrupt, but I want to let you know that if you're not gambling with fandle you're

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my media source. Okay. They had heard a conversation we had earlier about the Julio-Shayden Sharp thing. They did not know. Fox, Julio, Shane and sharp thing. Sure. They did not know Fox Julio.

Nobody knew that that was happening. And that is why we have seen the actions out of Fox that we have seen with the content since it happened. It has not been reposted. It ended abruptly. There was no followup questions. There was no nothing on fox everybody else has talked about they have not so what does that mean in the grand scheme of things that is my media source telling me that information we i still hold on a little bit of hope that julio

knew about this whole thing this is a wild trend to begin with but whenever julio has a new team this will all be forgotten about but it is insane to think about in this world that we're in right now hey wait but pat did so fox isn't re-airing it they're not are they not even talking about this and espn's running the but they're running the clip right i don't think espn has run the clip out the club we have not run the clip either we got a strike yesterday from the herd by the way on our clip come on classic move for running that alex smith interview we should have i mean they ask us for a lot of clips we always give the okay but like um give the shout out yeah what do you mean you get a strike what from who from youtube or them they claimed it gave us a strike which by the way could happen i mean that is how this goes

i'll fucking remember it though like you know like this is one of those things like i will remember because i am the one that sees all the emails asking for you know potential clips and everything like that in other places it's just you know i thought we had a a free flowing thing but it might have been because of the whole julio coverage that we've done this week with fox and that's the herd and all that stuff i'm 100 sure but that's a bad scene i guess they have tried to bury it as much as possible over at fox i assume shannon's not exactly thrilled that this has gone the way it's gone either i don't know maybe he is i'm not sure darius your thoughts it's tough man it's tough tough situation i'm gonna leave it at that hey fox has got to be fox is in a weird spot because it brought a lot of attention and eyeballs

to their shows huge news but then it's for something where they don't are we in some legal issues here we're talking to our lawyers like how do we handle this how i guess a lot of it depends on how upset julio is too right well and like our player is going to be like hey let's go talk to shannon sharp about you know some sort of thing that i want to have on my mind now i don't know shannon alongside skip i don't know if shannon was all i mean club shea shea the podcast was starting to really do well there obviously i enjoy his interviews i enjoy him on the show that show is not revolved around guests though you know i mean so it's like i don't think it's that big of a deal in the grand scheme of things it won't be it's just it's not much to talk about

until shannon sharp gets sentenced to 15 years in jail Yeah, you have not heard the paralegals on Twitter, obviously, D, but there's paralegals out there who have gone to a law school that say, hey, that's a two-consent state over there. He could face jail time. Will you have to sue him or something? I think it's just not happening. I don't know if the family or state of Julio has to sue or if it's just against the law.

You just broke the law there. You can't do what you just did there. Just a heads up. We are in Florida and it's a two-way consent. So just keep that in mind. AJ has agreed. AJ has agreed to be on. I consent.

Thank you. So does Patrick in Ohio. What's going on, Patrick? Oh, no. Z-Bud, Pat, boys, how you doing on the Steel Good Friday? Hey, Rosito. Everything's great. Thank you so much.

And it's great to hear you, Patrick, in Ohio. What do you want to talk about, bub? Well, first off, I wanted to say I'm not speaking for all the fans. I'm just speaking for the ones that count. I just wanted to say, fuck you, Jake. You know, we didn't deserve yesterday for him complaining about being on hold for how long he was being on hold for. I appreciate you, Patrick.

I appreciate you. He wants to complain he needs to put down his pink dumbbells and go down to the nearest Starbucks and go get his soy latte with no foam and then go get his nails done and stop being such a puss. Thank you, Patrick, for the call. Thank you for the call all right thank you for the call okay he meant obviously very delicate and important to society whenever he said that word there he did not mean anything else by that as if it was weak or anything like that he meant very delicate and important to society ain't that right aj yeah yeah soy lattes i hear are some of the like the that's what the

vikings used to drink i heard, and macchiatos as well. Everything you kind of want to have. Let's go to Jay in Chicago. Jay, what's going on, man? Shout out to Patrick in Ohio. That's an Ohio call. That was an Ohio call. That guy's awesome.

What do you got, Jay? Hey, what's up, Patrick? Called last week. Big fan of the show, D-Bud. You. AJ, everybody, the boys. If I'm Aaron Rodgers, also bear down, I forgot to say, if I'm Aaron Rodgers, I walk into Goody's office and say,

hey, I'm fucking Aaron Rodgers. Without me, you guys would be Detroit for the past 25 years, okay? You give me what I want, and if not, I got a sore shoulder. You got to still pay me my money. That's what you should do, AJ. Have you told him to do that? I have not, but I definitely will. Zeke, can you clip this?

I want to send it to him. Maybe I'll Zoom with him and show him the clip. You might as well give him the Patrick from Ohio clip as well. Yeah. True. I don't know what type of soy latte is potentially over there in Hawaii, but after Miles Teller gets punched in the mouth in the bathroom at the restaurant you guys are at, I'm assuming

there could be a little bit of a pick-me-up. I think Patrick in Ohio could do that for him. Let's go to Zach in Oregon. What's going on, Zach? Hey, Pat. How's it going? I got a question for you about multi-sport athletes, MSAs. You yourself, great multi-sport athlete. LeBron James could have done football, but he did basketball.

I'm just wondering if you think that potentially if he would have tried hard enough and not focused on basketball, if potentially LeBron James could do a 900. Thank you. Oh, skate? Oh, yeah. Tony Hawk. Tony Hawk. I mean, with how big LeBron is, probably get good momentum, okay, on that half pipe.

Darius, with your extensive research on skateboarding, do you think LeBron could do a Tony Hawk 900 or a kickflip if he had to, if it's all he did with his entire life? Kickflip for sure. 900, is that like 367, like that? Yeah, Tony Hawk did it. That ain't nothing to sneeze at because when you're going up there, by the way, you're blind to what's behind you. That's right.

And you're like 25, 30 feet in the air, you know what I mean? I used to play the video game, the Tony Hawk game. Oh, yeah. Underground. That was one of my favorites back in the day, but I don't know about a 900. Some bodies aren't built to skateboard. Danny Hawks is the only guy to ever land the 900. I mean, unless we're talking maybe Bob Burnquist, it ain't fucking happening.

Okay? Another skating legend. What about Sheckler, dude? Ryan Sheckler's out there hitting that fucking dunk. Sheckler's doing that. Sheckler's doing that. Sheck could do it. Sheck could definitely do that.

What are you talking about? Rob Dyrdek could definitely do that. He's a street skater, okay? He ain't hitting the half pipe. If he needed to or wanted to. Hey, by the way, he's from Centerville. No, he's from... Who? He's from Kettering where I was born.

Kettering, yeah. He's from Ohio. He's an Ohio guy. I mean, there's obviously a lot of skate legends. Nobody's Tony Hawk out there. Shout out to Mikey Taylor. I had Mikey Taylor on the man. Shout out to Mikey Taylor.

Mikey's the only one. Thank you, Mikey. Let's go to Daniel in California. Maybe Bucky Lasek. Maybe. 900. It's tough. Daniel in California where all the skaters live.

What's going on, dude? Pat, AJ, Darius, the boys. Feel good Friday. Thank you for having me on the show, everybody. Thanks for joining us, Daniel. What part of California are you in? I'm in Palm Springs. Palm Springs, California.

Southern California. That's where the Coachella is, right? I actually work right next to Coachella. Oh, nice. Okay, I was there once. Got trapped out in the middle of that desert for about five fucking hours. It was impossible to get back to L.A. because the traffic was insane. But good times, good people.

Danny, what do you want to talk about? Yeah, it's pretty fucking miserable, but good times. It was. It was very miserable. I had a terrible time, but you're probably a good guy. What do you want to talk about? Hey, everybody gets stuck in it,

so at least we're all miserable together. Yeah, it is kind of, I feel like everybody's miserable. You know, it's my birthday today. Happy birthday,

Daniel. Thank you. Appreciate you guys. I was trying to find a way to feel good because I just got my new penguin sweater and now I feel stupid

wearing it, but... Which player? 87. Yeah, don't ever feel stupid wearing the greatest player of all time, Daniel. Happy birthday. You're welcome, says Sidney. Are the Panthers still on this thing?

Done. Oh, no. They lost to Tampa? Yeah, done. Good run. You know, I was driving. We got a studded goal. We got a studded net, though.

We need them. We're going to try to get them. Yeah, we're going to try to steal him from your team. Because your team, you said earlier that there's nobody down there around where the Florida Panthers are playing, where you're walking out of the gas station and they're saying, go Panthers. Right?

Nobody's doing that. No. We talked about that because Ty walked out of a gas station right down the road here in Tampa Bay, and two people passed each other, and he said, go Bolts. That's right. Go Bolts. And Darius was like, yeah, they ain't doing that down in Miami or whatever

you know what's very interesting I saw Tampa Bay lightning like flags flying on the back of cars all over the place here you know they didn't do it in Florida Florida has no idea South Florida has no idea the Panthers exist they have no idea that that team exists Darius has no clue if Darius wasn't such a big hockey guy

they wouldn't even know they made the playoffs guess who didn't the Detroit Red Wings. Oh. All of that just to shoehorn that joke in. No, it wasn't a joke. It's not a joke. It's real. This is a sports truth show.

Florida Panthers have zero fans that know they exist in their home city. They made the playoffs. They lose to the reigning Stanley Cup champs, obviously, Tampa Bay. But nobody even knows they exist. They're in the playoffs. Yeah. The Red Wings didn't even make the playoffs. They lose to the reigning Stanley Cup champs, obviously, Tampa Bay. But nobody even knows they exist. They're in the playoffs. Yeah.

The Red Wings didn't even make the playoffs. We'll get back there. I thought hockey was over, though. I thought we were done with hockey talk on this show. We are. We are. It's over. It's dead.

Big game. So is the Miami Heat, by the way. Shut up, Fox. Yeah, the Heat are done. The Heat are dead. Oh, yeah. With the Celtics. Your fanhood's dead, too, yeah?

No, absolutely not. You're going to pull for the Lakers now? We'll be back next year. I like the players, man. I would like to see the Nets and the Lakers match up in the finals. Me too. I would like to see that. And by the way, that's outside not NBA fans' perspective as well.

Like, give me the three best players in the East and give me the two best in the the east and give me it's gonna have the two best in the west and have them play against each other that's what we all want to see i assume adam silver wants to see that with the clippers have they played since going down oh two uh no they played tonight yeah they might just get they might get sweat yeah they're done and real g's move in silence like yannis and it seems like they're probably done as well the nets team they scored 71 points okay in the first half against that Boston team and they were fucking around like they are this is what their 10th game together all season they're only going to get better and

better Nets Lakers should be a beautiful one but I want to see the Nets win strictly because the Nets paid the most money tried the hardest they wanted They wanted to win. I want them to win. That's what I think would be fair. Don't you, AJ? Yeah, that does seem to be the most fair situation. And also, this would be Steve Nash, his first year coaching, correct? And he just won a championship? Steve Nash was brought into a white privilege conversation

earlier by Stephen A. Smith when talking about Tim Tebow, by the way. Because remember, when Steve Nash got that job, it was a big deal. It was a big deal that Nash got that job, it was a big deal. It was a big deal that he got that job over others. Now, I don't know if any other coach could have been able to handle this year in that with a player.

I think a player had to be kind of in there, somebody. And I'm not saying Steve Nash. I mean, if they win, he was the right guy for the job. But with everything that was going on in the world, I think you had to have a guy who was a real player oriented team oriented steve nash has done a great job now phil jackson's greatest coach of all time right he got to coach mj kobe and everybody steve nash has a loaded team is that

steve nash's fault or should we actually talk about how good of a coach he is because he had to keep it all together so right i don't know there's there's always like 10 different ways to talk about that whole thing. Managing those personalities. I mean, two-time MVP. He was a great point guard. I wasn't upset that he got that job, but I mean, to get those players, I was like Kerr and the job he got with

Golden State. Well, Nash was coaching with Kerr, I think, right? Was he? Yeah, he was coaching. He was like a consultant. Kerr won in his first year. First year's like a big thing, I feel like, for the NBA. The NBA's a big thing. Ty Lue won his first year First year's like a big thing I feel like for the NBA The NBA's a big thing Ty Lue winning first year Yeah LeBron

LeBron Frank Vogel with the Lakers Yeah Frank Vogel Nick Nurse with the Raptors By the way Vogel had that Pacers squad Going For a long time

And then they kicked His ass out of town Now he's just gonna win Probably five or six With the Lakers Good for Frank Congrats Frank Good guy

As is everybody else On that list. But I feel like managing egos is a big – You can say personalities, but that's old school saying managing egos. Personalities, though, is a big deal. And it's not just egos, by the way. So personalities is a much better way to describe it because there's probably some times where guys are maybe riding real lows

instead of just real highs all the time. And that's a big part of the NBA. I think it's a big part way to describe it because there's probably sometimes where guys are maybe riding real lows instead of just real highs all the time. That's a big part of the NBA. I think it's a big part of professional sports in general. And that's more position coaches as well. I think that's why Clyde is so good at what he does at quarterback position because he's able to, hey, this is what's going to be expected. This is what they're going to want. Let's go ahead and make that whole thing happen. But I think that's a skill that is not something everybody has.

And I think it kind of gets shit on a lot. It's like if you can get the best out of the best people, you're also probably up there in the group of who could be the best at what they do. And there was a time this year where Kyrie Irving was basically radio silent for two weeks and everyone was asking Steve Nash, like, hey, what the hell is going on with your team? It's like, look, I don't know what's going on with Kyrie, but I can just make do with what I have. And they were still a good team.

And then going into playoffs, Kyrie said, basketball does not matter. And Steve Nash is like, hey, listen, I understand, man. You got your mind on bigger things. But all we need, we need just 60 minutes right here. Just need you to pass. Do whatever the hell you want to do. All right? And then afterwards, you want to save the world?

We appreciate you for it. We just need you to show up. That's a skill in in of itself as well just like tom brady allowing uh bill belichick or ba to chew him out like that's a skill that people don't you know account for pop like pop because there's different ways to do it you saw pop with duncan and parker and genoble down over the spurs and then you got a guy like her or should uh phil jackson who let dennis rodman go to vegas for a few days because shit, it's Dennis Rodman and that's how you're going to get the best out of him. So you've got to be able to manage those personalities, manage those egos.

I think that's the thing that's not talked about enough. Who was the guy down in Miami? Eric Spohelstra. Oh, Spoh, yeah. Spohstra. Yeah, of course, Spoh. He was handed the heatles. Yeah.

Right? The heatles. Spoh's a good coach. Yeah, he's a great coach yeah he's great coach yeah great coach he won of course he's crushing a couple times still there i saw him with my own eyes my own fucking eyes in an indiana pacer miami heat playoff game which happened like four straight years or three straight years whatever it was i was front row right behind the heat's bench okay didn't have my standard behind the hoop seat okay i think little wayne was at this game

like i got booted out of my seat for little wayne by the way which is hey cool i didn't pay for it but i'll get it i think it was mike epps little wayne and somebody else was sitting there or whatever and i was in front row right behind the heat bench there was a timeout called in the second half in a very pivotal time. And he sat there with the dry erase board with the marker in the middle of the huddle and didn't move that thing one time. Didn't say one single word. It was strictly for the optics to make it look like he was doing something.

And then at the end, they, like, hand in and they just went back out there. It was like. Were the players talking or? No, nobody was talking. Just sat. Everybody was quiet. Dwayne Wade was here. Braun was sitting down over here.

I think Bosh was maybe standing up. He just sat there like this. It was like a scene out of a movie. I'm like, is he thinking? Is he thinking? That was the entire time out. Okay, see you later. How you doing?

Catch your breath. From that moment, I had lost a little bit of respect in Old Spolstra's coaching ability. But maybe at that point, he was like, I didn't have anything to fucking say. Good luck, Bron. We're playing like shit. Figure it out out there.

It's just buying into the part. I mean, when you got a guy like LeBron or James Harden, any of these guys, Chris Paul, these guys can pretty much run the show. It's on you to manage minutes. Like I said, through the week, personalities, things like that. But these guys, I mean. What's up with Chris Paul? He goes to new teams every year, puts them on the back, carries them to the playoffs, personalities, things like that. But these guys, I mean. What's up with Chris Paul? He goes to new teams every year, puts them on the back,

carries them to the playoffs, they'll win. Why does he get kicked out everywhere? I don't know. It's a good question. He gets hurt in the playoffs, I feel like, consistently every year. Yeah, but he takes a new team to the playoffs every year, though. He's the head of the union, right, isn't he? Yeah.

Yep. Is that why he gets kicked out? I think he is ultra competitive like almost to the point where like his teammates hate him like they respect the hell out of him but like i think it's kind of like a kobe thing where it's just like fuck this guy's a lot yeah because you can do that shit when you win chips but if you're not winning like him and harden in houston they were really good almost beat the warriors and then uh he gets hurt and they end up losing then james harden's like hey i don't really he and i were talking on a t-box right didn't we talk on a

t-box oh yeah oh yeah remember because the news broke that he was gonna be in space jam and he was like where the fuck did you see that i actually said congrats on your role in space jam he was like where'd you see that i was like it was a notification he's like these people he was mad that was our interaction i thought i was going to get a good pop. Like, hey, hey, here we go. And it was not. It was like a complete opposite. It was like, okay.

But he got loose as the round went on. Hey, did that come out? Is that the LeBron Space Jam? Did that movie come out? The trailer did. It's fucking way better than the first one. No, it's incredible. When's the last time you watched the first one?

Come on, Darius. You know I didn't watch it Jordan is in this second one as well I watched the last dance dude I gotta go back and watch the first one the first one unfortunately does not hold up no that's not true Jordan's in the second one too by the way

so LeBron needed him no it's a series right that's how movies do you watch a lot of these things isn't that how it works like in Star Wars is that old fucking all of them or no it would not be the original plot at all and a new story just number two oh so same name different series you're saying yeah

that's normal and they said yeah no Michael Jordan and then now it's coming out who said no Michael Jordan LeBron himself when I don't know he's making this up I don't know it's like the New York City this up. Zeke is making this up. I don't know. It's like the New York City blackout. There was a power outage, AJ.

You know that? I don't think any of us do know that, actually. I believe you, Zeke. Rolling blackouts. We were told by Shrek. You watch Entourage? No. Oh, jeez.

I did not. That was one of those shows everybody talked about. I never got into it. You'd like it, D-Bud. Jump on in, D-Bud. D-Bud, you would like that show. You have it around. Is it one of those binge? Can I binge it? Oh into it. You'd like it, D-Bud. D-Bud, you would like that show. Is it one of those binge? Can I binge it? Oh, yeah. I think it does hold up

too, I've been told. It does. What seasons? Some people say there's a few in there that don't. Watch through season five, then you can pretty much shit Canada after that. Quite a money grab late there. What's that? It does not hold up. What do you mean?

I've heard that from a few people. I watched it for the first time two summers ago. The acting is so bad. The acting is so bad. It's not about the acting, it's about the story. You're not saying Piven's a bad actor, are you? Piven's great. There ain't no fucking way Vince was getting cast in a Martin Scorsese movie.

I think it's what he's saying. Jim Cameron. He was in Aquaman with Jim Cameron. Yeah. That ain't happening either. Beat Spider-Man. So it doesn't hold up. I was told it does hold up.

Foxy, you just watched it. You said it was good. Yeah, I loved it. But yeah, there are moments you watch it and you just have to laugh to yourself because it's just like, what the hell was that? Oh, it was terrible. But I still loved it. Kind of just in a cheesy way.

The Office, too. I never got into that one either the original or that one the original everyone talks with ricky gervais no no it is you don't know what the guy from me you don't know who you are i know the black dude from the gifts or g. Hold on. Okay, okay, okay, cool. You'll enjoy the office. I know the characters. You'll enjoy the office, okay? Okay. From Steve Carell, 40-year-old virgin as well.

Yeah. You will enjoy that. The creator, though, is a guy named Ricky Gervais. He's a British guy. Okay? He's a comedian. And he is one of the most hysterical humans walking this earth. You would love Ricky Gervais.

So instead of watching The Office, what I'd like you to do is watch some of Ricky Gervais' stand-up on Netflix, and then you'll go ahead and get in a rabbit hole, and you'll get a chance to experience this. This is going to be your new favorite comedian, I think. Let's do it. No. No, just watch his Golden Globes posting gigs. That's where he's funny. Yeah.

He's opening monologue. Wait, so he wrote The Office? Yeah, he was the original. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He. This guy. Hosting gigs. That's where he's from. Yeah. He's opening monologue. Wait, so he wrote The Office? Yeah, he was the... Oh, okay. Yeah, he was the... By the way, he creates... They brought it over here. Yeah, he creates everything almost, this guy.

Just big brain. He's very rich. Very rich. It's a part of his time. And Hollywood hates him. Hollywood hates him. He hates them. I love that.

He's very religious. Oh, yeah. Which religion? The one that doesn't believe in religion. I get you. I believe you. When we die, we're going to ground. Big fan of that.

Afterlife. Loves animals. Great show. The invention of lying. Any similarities with him and George Carlin? I don't know enough about George Carlin. I don't know. He's a very...

Rick Gervais is. I'm going to check him out. He goes on the stage to stir shit. Yeah. Like he's going out there staring it right down and does not care. Check him out. He's very, very, very good. The first thing that's happening after this is showing D-Butt that Golden Globes opened

monologue. Yeah, yeah. Because that in itself will just kind of, it's a good intro for you. Okay. We have some updates here from Tom Pellicero. It's a good intro for you. Okay, we have some updates here from Tom Pelissero. The bills have given Reed Ferguson,

whose brother Blake Ferguson is the snapper for the Miami Dolphins, a $675,000 signing bonus as part of the three-year extension through 2024 that he signed today per source. The NFL's new highest paid long snapper. Let's go, Reed. that he signed today per source, the NFL's new highest paid long snapper. Let's go, Lee. Hey, that Ferguson family is up-down quarterbacks perfection. They are very talented.

Blake is at Miami. He was at LSU, won a national championship down there. That is a position you have no idea exists until they fuck up. If you don't fuck up, you're around a long time. You make a lot of money. $675,000 signing bonus, though. Good for him. A lot of people are going to be pissed off about that, that are fans. Like, why are're around a long time. You make a lot of money. $675,000 signing bonus, though. Good for him. A lot of people are going to be pissed off about that, that are fans. Like, why are we paying a long snap for that?

It's because he could ruin your entire season with just one eighth of a second hanging on to the ball too long and snapping it over somebody's head. Insane position. I would never want to do it. But that is the one that if you want to get your kids into it, and if they're great at not fucking up, they can make money forever doing it. Are most long snappers in the NFL, were they D linemen in college and high school? Tight ends.

I think there's linebackers. Luke Rhodes was a linebacker. Athletic, too. Tom McMahon, I kind of forced him into snapping, I think, on the side. Now he's the guy. If you're a linebacker that's on the fringe, you're a fringe guy, it's a long shot for you to make a roster. And they say, hey, let me take some snaps.

Get your ass over there and take some snaps. You can be the backup long snapper. If you're the backup long snapper, the more you can do. Luke was the backup long snapper there for Jacob Tamme. He was our backup long snapper. He had to snap to me one game there for a bit. He was good. Tight end.

Yeah, tight end. I think Nick was the backup long snapper he had a snap to me one game there for a bit he was good tight end yeah tight end yeah i think nick was a backup long snapper for the patriots yep right he said he could pick up tim tebow and throw him on some scary shit when that long snapper gets hurt that changed the whole game it was awesome by the way change for both teams yeah the other teams like hey the long snappers out okay are we going all out blitz or are we going all out rush or are we sitting back because this punt is going to be terrible like there's like there's two different strategies because if it's four if you go for it it's like all right it's going to be slow up time is going to be slow there's no way that person knows how to block either we can probably run some little games up here at the middle or do we sit back and let them

just kind of let this whole thing fall apart he might snap it over his own head here at the time it's kind of both games there. I only had one game. Jacob Tamme. Justin Snow, we're playing against Tampa. I think it was the same game that Eric Foster. Yeah, hurt himself down there. It was not cool. That was a bad, nasty leg stop down there.

Justin Snow covering. I think he got blindsided concussion. See him go into the thing. He's like, all right, he'll be back. All of a sudden, we get the ball. We have to, we get past the 50. It's like, okay, it's going to be a field goal. I guess he'll be back.

Then all of a sudden, Jacob Tamme comes. He's on the offense. He's getting balls. He runs over on like first down or second down. He's like, hey, I got to get a couple here. Takes his gloves off. He literally just came off the field. Snapped a couple.

He's like, yeah, you're good, dude. We go jogging on the field. It was, he nor I had a clue what was going to happen he was really good in practice but it's a whole different ball game when it's in the game he delivered a seed perfect bang how you doing let's keep it real i did a full celebration behind him he didn't have to snap again i don't think after that but yeah it's a real it's a game changer as soon as that happens what would you say rush i mean I mean, go all out. Yeah, I'm a big rush guy. Blow right through him, block the punt.

I'm a big, like, get somebody laying at the feet of the punter every single time guy. Because I hate that. It gets in your mental? No, you just got to think about it. You just got to like, okay, I can't be. So it gets in your mental? No, nothing gets in my mental. It's a steel trap up here.

Go ahead and look at the stats, especially towards the last four. Nothing really gets me. But it does make me think like, oh, these motherfuckers are bringing it. Okay, so I got to be. I don't mean it's a steel trap up here go ahead and look at the stats especially towards the last four nothing really gets me but it does make me think like oh these motherfuckers are bringing it okay so i don't mean it in a bad like i'm saying you're able to overcome now yeah but the way you're saying it it gets in your mentals it is a negative connotation it's fine you said no but i have to think about it yeah yeah but it gets in your mental yeah yeah but the way you guys are saying it is like in a negative yeah you took it like you took it as a slight to you like you you feel offended right now.

I do, yeah, because it did not. Because you had to bring up your stats and everything. I was giving it as a compliment. Like, no, you're able to overcome the thought. No, you weren't. I know somebody's at my feet. That's not what you were saying. That's not what you were saying.

It is. It is. We know. It's okay. You're going to be fine. Oh, you get that row back three-quarter zip on. Okay, you get that row back on. Support the sponsors man sorry

no i'm just saying you're starting to you know get crazy but yeah it did fuck with me actually a couple times yeah yeah like i saw uh ed reed by the way we're playing against uh baltimore there early greatest greatest punt blocker ever ever uh i think 40 some seconds maybe a minute something left we're up like whatever two and it's a very close game and we're punting. And I see him go put his hand down in the dirt. I'm like, well, he's not coming in to hold up. That is not a hold up over there. Okay.

That is a Brahman down in Houston. Then he went over to Philly. Anytime he was on his head seemed to be this large. You guys had a nickname for him i didn't go to many special teams meetings but i went to enough to know the nickname he was a guy too wasn't he we call him a stallion yeah okay you look like a horse out there you know he was a stallion yeah that was the nickname yeah the D-Bud saying something else is what it sounds like. That was the nickname.

I'm not going to leak special teams information. Hey, look at the Stallion over there. Guy looks like an actual horse is running through. Oh, so it was a horse joke as for his head. It wasn't me. Sharp guy kind of. Yeah, it was not that. It was not that.

Don't even allude to that. You call him Horsehead? No, no, no. No, we call him stallion. This kid's a stallion. And by the way, he used to twist his hair. He had long hair. He would twist his hair like a horse's mane would.

It was unbelievable. The guy was a stallion. A stallion. Twisting his hair, massive dome. So it wasn't stallion. You guys had something ruthless for this guy. No, no, no, no. Yeah.

No, we did not because he almost broke my leg. He blocked like three punts against us. There is nothing. I had the utmost respect. So he was in your head? Brahman? Yeah. He was in my mentals.

Brahman was in my mentals. Hey, Pat, wouldn't— And not just mine, by the way. The people who had to block him, apparently he was in their mentals too because they forgot how to fucking do that every time he stepped on the goddamn field. What's that, AJ? When you said people, you would put somebody at the punter's feet feet don't you think that's key like wouldn't you do that to the kicker as well every time have someone fall in front of him because that you absolutely have to

think about that well and the veterans the veteran rushers the edge rushers for field goals they will always walk in front of the kicker like all even if they're nowhere near it they would just walk in front of the kicker like every single time and you see it on film where somebody's like rushing they don't have the edge and then og will turn back around and like walk right in front of the kicker you know it's just like that little oh are they close and then like some people will yell right ah and then i will have to like make sure vinny knows like he's not even close. Not even close. You're not even. Yeah, I am.

I will get the next one. Not even close. There's a lot of that. Because Vinny, though, that would never happen. Right? That would never happen to Vinny. Vinny is never in there. But you could see how some guys rush.

Like, oh, no, this guy's on. And Ed Reed, the first time I thought about just catching the ball, throwing it. Hey, it's been a great week. Hope you enjoyed it as well. We got a long weekend ahead of us. We'll be back on Tuesday. Hope you have the greatest weekend of your entire life. To all the boys, thank you so much for your time.

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