The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 429 - Feel Good Friday, Anthony Schlegel, Darius Butler, AJ Hawk

Episode Date: June 4, 2021

Todays episode Pat and the boys are joined in studio by former NFL DB, Pat’s former teammate and current host of The Man to Man Pod, Darius Butler. The boys are down in Tampa as Pat prepares for another episode of Friday Night Smack DAHN on Fox. Pat opens up today’s show with his reaction to LeBron James and the Lakers getting bounced AHT of the playoffs. The Hammer Dahn boys jump in and weigh in on what’s on their slates tonight. AJ Hawk joins the conversation to discuss the latest happenings around the NFL. Pat discusses the impact that Toradol had on himself and many of his teammates as new articles come out about its effects. To finish off this feel good Friday Jaguars current strength and Conditioning coach Anthony Schlegel (59:15:20-1:26:23)came on the show to discuss all all things from how big Tim Tebow is to the covid regulations for OTA’s. Make sure to subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow and listen every day on Mad Dog Radio, Sirius XM Channel 82. We appreciate you all for listening, come laugh with us, cheers.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

What's up, everybody? It is Friday, June 4th, and you are listening to the Pat McAfee Show 2.0. Pat's on his way over to SmackDown right now. We still got a great show from today. Darius Butler joins us live from the FanDuel Beach House down in Tampa. AJ Hawk, obviously, and new strength and conditioning coach for the Jacksonville Jaguars, Anthony Schlegel, joins the program as well for a great conversation. We appreciate you guys all for listening. Without further ado, let's get into it. Big-ass show today because, you know, it's the next show.

It's the biggest show of the year because it's the next show. That's right. Okay, one game at a time, one show at a time mindset right here, live in Tampa Bay. Go Bolts. Go Bolts. Go Bolts, by the way. I do have a house in Tampa Bay, so, you know,

me and Brett Michaels, big, big Lightning fan. I've heard Stomkos has a place right down the road here. Oh, yeah. They lost. Bruins won, though, another time in beautiful fashion. Last night, there was a lot of sports, okay? A lot of sports happenings. Mostly LeBron James losing in a round that wasn't the finals for the first time since 2010 when making the playoffs.

Wow. LeBron James loses in the first round six games into this thing doesn't even force a game seven at home no Anthony Davis because the groin is a tough thing to come back from whenever you talk about athletics and the issue now for the NBA is what are they gonna do LeBron James, after the game, didn't even have a sense of anger. There didn't seem to be much angst. Almost like he kind of understood the situation as soon as he saw Anthony Davis was hurt. And then, by the way, afterwards, says, I'm playing for a tune squad, dude. I'm playing fucking aliens, bro.

I think, you know, in that movie Space Jam, LeBron is debuting his full time movie acting chops. We've seen him in Sprite commercials. We've seen him in Nike commercials. We've seen him in the barbershop being a host of a show. This is the first time I think we're seeing him in a full movie, especially when it's being remade after Michael Jordan did him going, you know, and doing this acting thing is impressive to me. He has the ability to act. He has the ability to buy into a character, know a scene, know a role. I think personally he should have at least acted upset last night.

I think personally there should have been just a little bit of a thespian in LeBron James, and I think he should have acted a little bit upset afterwards. But it was almost like the writing was on the wall this series. Devin Booker's a stud. Obviously, Chris Paul is good, but none of it matters because the Brooklyn Nets are going to win. And people are going to be mad at me saying that because going into the season, I said, well, there's only going to be a couple teams that are going to win. It's going to be the Lakers, it's going to be the Clippers.

At that time, we didn't even know the Nets. Now that all the teams and everybody like myself from the outside has predicted, oh, they're going to win, they're going to win they're going to win they're all out now do we care more about good team basketball in the NBA is that something we need to care about more is the NBA not just a superstar driven league for success it's actually good team basketball we'll find out with the Brooklyn Nets don't just beat the fuck out of everybody we'll follow along with that can't wait to see Space Jam wish LeBron acted a little bit upset. Anthony Davis, wish he was healthy. It doesn't seem like any of them are trying to be like

though, which is awesome. I like that. But now the NBA season's over for us. And it was a good season. Way to get out there and ball. It is very great to have somebody in

studio yet again in the house. Every time we're down here in Florida, a Florida resident joins. At Boston Connor, at Ty Schmidt, myself, Zito, Foxy, all the boys back in Indianapolis who are plugged in via FaceTime, I think. I was going to say satellite, but I'm sure there's a satellite involved. Might be satellite. I'm sure there's a satellite involved. It's just fucking FaceTime. Ladies and gentlemen, nine-year NFL vet, host of Man to Man pod,

Everything DB, Darius J. Butler. Yeah, Darius! What's happening, man? How you doing, Darius? It's great to have you with us, man. Let me tell you why. There is nothing really to talk about. No.

But we haven't heard your thoughts on everything that there was to talk about this week, so now we get a chance to kind of rehash everything that has gone about this week and maybe some new updates. For instance the aaron rogers story was dead you know the only thing being talked about in the aaron rogers stories was uh miles teller potentially getting into an altercation we don't know the details we don't know the details yeah hey we made that mistake before it anyway one week ago we made it and we ended up in uh in e you know i think they called uh some dumb ass guy they called me in their daily mail they called me a professional wrestler in the norwegian tabloids i was getting sent pictures uh in norway i was being referred to as agitator or something i

forget what the word was it was in their language and maybe it meant something different but i got buried for that we don't know okay tmz had the mali police call them i assume or they called the mali police or the hospital and they had their story okay that was evidently wrong i was never told i was then told by miles who told me in a shot whatever nothing's really come out of that story rob domofsky okay green bay packer insider uh for espn i I think him and Aaron actually have pretty good relationship. Okay. I believe so. Yep. He comes out in an interview in Chicago. Okay. He was doing an interview in Chicago, Illinois.

And he says he doesn't see at this point how Aaron comes back to the Packers. Seems like he's too like maybe dug in, dug in in his ways or something like that. That's big news. Okay. So now an espn reporter who has a pretty good relationship with aaron does he know more than us i'd assume at this point i think we maybe burned that relationship with miles teller's little story situation yeah shit by the way don't fucking care i'm sorry miles i i wish you didn't get jumped that's bullshit i don't like it but you could have handled it differently but not neither here nor there he's gone it sounds like

darius uh are you learning about this for the first time because you maybe didn't know that old robert domofsky existed or did you know robert domofsky existed and what are your thoughts on this do you agree with his thought and really this is something we're just learning about today so it's actually kind of something new to talk about yeah i mean you're not familiar with old rob but uh rob does good work oh yes you familiar i mean i've seen robert domofsky's work and people say that's on bitch he's good he's good okay he might be accumulating some shit then so came to his conclusion that uh a rod won't be there man and uh last time i was here i think it was like a 30 chance i gave it he retires. But I see him playing ball.

But I still see him coming back to the Packers now. Yeah. I see him coming back. The interesting thing about him coming back to the Packers is, how do you get past that awkward stage? You know, there's going to be an awkward stage. Russell Wilson and Pete Carroll are going to have to have the same type of thing happen with the offensive line.

I feel like if you have success. The Bulls did it. What's that? The Bulls did it. I mean, everybody hated their success. The Bulls did it. What's that? The Bulls did it. I mean, everybody hated their GM. Oh, crumbs. You know what I mean? You're talking about Jerry Kraus.

Yeah, I mean. Jerry Kraus, Hall of Famer, by the way. Hall of Famer. You're not getting six ships without him. Yeah, that's what everybody's saying. That's what Jerry Kraus is saying. And people forget. Jerry Kraus got painted an interesting light in that whole thing.

There were some people. He really fucked it up. That's Zito. See, Zito didn't. Zito brought you six rings. Yeah, Zito didn't listen to me. Zito brought you six rings. And then he took away two more. Could have had eight.

And also, I mean, the way Scotty Pippen was portrayed in that thing wasn't great either. He was trending. People were calling LeBron Scotty Pippen in this. Oh. Yeah. That's an insult to Pippen. Wow. Zito.

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How happy are the Jordan fans? You guys are loving every moment of this. So happy. They're trying to throw away a wizard stat where Jordan had made the playoff or something two times. It was like, the guy donated his check for 9-11 victims those couple years. Oh, okay. Come on.

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Things are looking good. That might happen. We have no idea if that's going to happen. The LeBron haters, though, last night. I mean, the sixth minute when he had to go poop, they were starting to blossom. They were tough. They were starting to come out.

Then last night, they were down 24 early. They ended up losing by 13. There was a little bit of a run there. A little fight. LeBron put on the gas a little bit in the third quarter. It seemed like he was starting to do his thing or whatever. But they never, the Suns didn't blink. They just continued. They end up winning by 13. The LeBron haters

got excited about it. And Zito is one of the biggest ones because he's from Chicago, so he feels obligated to cheer for Jordan. How old were you when Jordan was? Yeah, exactly. I managed. Which one? Oh, geez. Such a good response there. People – in the post-game press conference, I was like, yeah, all right.

I can see why people potentially hate LeBron. Potentially. Damn. First time since 2010 where getting bounced out of the playoffs is in something other than the finals. That's absurd. That's absolute. I mean, I don't think he'll be appreciated until he's done. And MJ, I mean, MJ had haters too.

It's just different with social media. I mean, most guys, honestly, most people you see talk about MJ and Bron, they probably never seen Jordan miss a jumper. They probably never seen him have a bad game. You compare one guy's career and it's broken down every day. Guys have made a whole life off of talking about LeBron. So, it's crazy. But I'm a LeBron guy.

MJ guy as well. Yeah, you're literally wearing, like, a Chicago Bulls outfit right now. Yeah, you're not a LeBron guy. You can say it. I'm a LeBron guy. I didn't like him walking off the court like that. He had a poop. He had a poop. No, you're talking about last night. I'm shaking my handsron guy. You can say it. I'm a LeBron guy. I didn't like him walking off the court like that. He had to poop. He had to poop.

No, you're talking about shaking the hands. I had to poop. Yeah. I felt some kind of weird. Last night, he didn't have to poop. And I obviously was not up for that. Yeah, it was 1 o'clock in the morning. There's no chance I was going to be up for that.

And I think everybody knew that that was going into that game. And the NBA knew that if this thing doesn't get tight quick and it's not a boat race, there's probably a lot of people that aren't going to see the end of this. The whole non-shaking hands thing. I don't know the NBA well enough. I guess I should. Hockey, for instance, after a series like the – That's what it is, yeah.

Same thing. It's a big deal. Like in hockey, it's a massive – these dudes potentially just fought each other, and then it's like, let's put our swords aside for the good of the game and then in the last dance right it was the isaiah yeah that was a big thing that was a big thing is it a big thing in the nba to do the handshake thing and why didn't that happen why did lebron just bounce in the nba like they don't shake hands after any other game until until the series is over like after you know game one game two game four whatever they walk off but uh after it's over, it's like, you know, whoever won, you know, dap them up.

And think, you know, knowing him and Chris Paul's relationship. Yeah, they're on banana boats. Oh, yeah. Evan Booker just, you know, dropped 47 almost. Like, hey, you know, just something. Well, he gave him his jersey. Afterwards, yeah, yeah. That was dope.

There was an entire behind-the-scenes thing. That was dope. I do wonder, like, hey, LeBron, you are the game. You know what I mean? So that is kind of like a... Maybe he doesn't want it to happen anymore. Maybe he's saying, listen, this is something that we don't want to happen anymore. Maybe LeBron

wants to stop tradition. That's what people will say that hate LeBron by. Could be a COVID scare thing, too. He's not vaccinated yet. So, I mean, you know. We don't know. He's not vaccinated yet. So, I mean, you know. We don't know. He's not. I don't think so.

As far as I know, he's not. Hey, down here in Florida, you don't even got to do that. No, no, no. Hell no. Why not? In Indiana, you know, the only stadium that has not been granted to say that they can have full capacity by the time... Lucas Oil?

The local governing authority says no. The mayor in Indy says, hey, listen. On my time, pal. I need to see some more numbers. Maybe he's right in that whole thing. But in Indiana, you gotta walk into a place and you get a little look and you just gotta... Still a lot of masks

up there? In Indianapolis. It is slowly slowing in indianapolis it is that where you know it's like it's slowly like kind of rolling out it feels like but down here you don't even got to do the no no i got one everybody should see you're good you look weird with a mask on down here now yeah completely even at home thank god hey'm excited. But the mandate's getting lifted in Indy. Maybe that's what we're waiting for, you know? Well, people could say if, you know

how you can deem something post-June 1. The football season's in the fall. That would be post-June 6th. Whenever the mandate is being lifted. So, that little foresight. But hey, he's got a lot on his plate. He's got more numbers than everybody else. He's got a different virus than everybody else in Indianapolis on his plate. He's got more numbers than everybody else. He's got a different virus than everybody else in Indianapolis.

He knows. He's probably getting another round of data coming soon, and then once that comes through. Come on, Jim, just promise to open the roof. Well, hold on. Let's not do that, okay? It's a lot better when that thing's closed and the window is shut. Let's go ahead and have that thing at 70 degrees, no wind.

That place is beautiful. Ain't that right, D-Butt? Love it, man. I'm just thinking about it. NBA's losing a lot of money now because you got the Lakers out now. Oh, a lot of money every day. You got the Knicks out. You got my Heat. You got South Beach out. Who we got? We got Utah left.

Clippers are going to be out, right? Denver. They're down 3-2. So if they loosen up, they're done. Clippers are going to be out. It's going to be a lot of small, small markets. Let's continue the NBA conversation. And I know the fact that we've got Darius here, who is a big-time NBA fan, could play in the NBA, by the way. Bar.

I've seen him. I've seen him play. Wild highlights. Incredible highlights. Once again, though, to his point, we don't see any other place. Don't you miss us. It's true. Hey, see, I don't believe that there's any.

It's true. I don't believe that there's any. It's true. I don't believe that there's any potential, you know, lack of effort out there. Oh. I don't think that's not something Darius would ever do. Airballs. I don't think there's any of those. Okay. Maybe a missed pass.

Not getting back on defense. A couple turnovers. You get stripped out there? Definitely take a couple possessions off on defense these days. Okay. Yeah, yeah. All right. Lack of effort in Okay. Yeah, yeah. All right. Lack of effort in there.

Yeah, for sure. By the way, we don't need to see that. You know what I mean? No. We'll see that. Only the banger survived. But big-time basketball fan. So nobody's really thinking like, hey, I want to hear what Pat McAfee has to say about the NBA.

But I'll tell you what. Everything I've been saying about the NBA seems like it's going to be coming true. Trey Young is going to try to get to the Knicks. Yep. Zion Williamson is going to try to get to the next yep zion williamson's gonna try to get to the next okay dame lillard uh dame dalda best rapper in athletes i'm gonna say it he's out of there he's gone dude just a year ago he was uh it was like hey he ain't ever going anywhere this is this guy loyal and and everybody was like cool that's awesome this guy's loyal that's very cool that's very cool that's very cool but me as somebody who like doesn't watch the nba on a day

to day and maybe doesn't follow the uh trailblazers as much i would maybe if they like got to the big like you know they take stage yeah they did the whole thing and they're like no he's not gonna do it he wants to build that team put it on his back or whatever it's like okay but the way the nba is going he needs to get out of there doesn't he i love his loyalty it's great i hope he if he does it awesome they're gonna try to get him out of there and it seems like hey he's quoting nip nipsey hustle here he's like how long should i stay dedicated maybe he's thinking about question mark oh and then obviously how long till opportunity meet preparation which is the luck uh the old luck quote is you know luck is when uh preparation meets opportunity or whatever.

So I don't know what he's implying here. Is Damian Lillard going to retire instead of play somewhere else? Darius, is that what he's – how long should I stay dedicated? Or is that dedicated to Portland? What do you think? I'm thinking Portland, man, because I mean – Oh, it's heartbreak. You saw that.

Sorry, Portland. Man, that double nickel game he had, it was ridiculous. And his team gave him, they were like one for 17, one for 19 or something down the line, overtime. So it was tough. And he's been loyal. And he's spoken about it plenty of times. But in today's NBA, you just talked about it earlier with the Nets.

Like, you know, he can be loyal for another eight years, but he won't sniff a chip. Because guys are linking up. And nobody's going to Portland to play with him. Portland chip because guys are linking up and nobody's going to portland to to play with him portland's beauty yeah you should see the woods they have yeah hey the wood that they have up there beautiful views hey look hey that fan base up there too hey listen pacific northwest oh They play no games. You can get out there. The house you could buy in Portland, I assume. Oh, and one of those NBA Max contracts? Well, you could have probably a part of an entire community up there in Portland.

For sure. You know what I mean? With the beautiful lumber in the back. Mountains. Is there mountains in Portland? Probably. I'd assume. There's woods.

I'd assume. Brigo Rain, too. It's going to be green. Very lush. But with that being said, the owners would have O'Reign, too. It's going to be green. Very lush. But with that being said, the owners would have to decide to do that, to pay everybody to come in there. I don't know if that's going to happen. That hasn't seemed to happen yet, but maybe it is Portland

and not the decision being made. Well, if we're talking about fans being too wild, doesn't Portland have all the psychedelics and everything legalized now? So if you're an NBA player, meth, crack, LSD, acid, dope, heroin. So you just walk in the store and just order? No, no, I don't think you can do that. Oh. Yet.

Whoa, whoa, whoa. I don't know. I don't know the regulations, but I'm just saying. We're not lawyers. No. Okay? We're not paralegals. We have not Tom Pellicero'd through the memo of what that law actually consists of, but

I think if you're caught with some money, it's not like a jail right i i i'm not 100 sure if you can just walk into cvs down there and say two things of meth now because you just get carded for what cough syrup oh yeah because people when you're out in the country somewhere where meth is and i don't know if big city people know this or whatever if there is a massive meth problem in there they will start like id'ing you for things that are potential recipe oh yeah ingredients for the meth it's almost like a shot by the way by the cashier that is working at walmart telling you you're gonna make meth with this i'm like oh fucking chill out dude all right i respect everything you're a part.

Okay, I appreciate what you're doing, but you're accusing me of making meth right now, I think. I'd like to just

fucking get my throat back. All right, I'm gonna go to sleep. How do we do this whole thing? It's beautiful. That's awesome.

Look at that mountain up there. Wow. That's gorgeous. For those that are wondering, that are listening, on Sears.

Yeah. See what Miami looks like, Zeke. You see that backdrop? Oh, man. No income tax. I would assume Portland, you know.

How are they? They probably got the same. I would assume they have very high taxes. I would just guess. Yeah, if they're letting people run around, you know, cooking meth and snorting blow, yeah. They probably should have a pretty high income tax. All right, let's, I don't know how the, I don't think we're talking about income tax. I mean, you're taxing people so they're not, you know, buying that stuff.

I think the overall tax ideals over there are much higher, I think, than in the state of Florida. I'm not 100% sure. I think than in the state of Florida. I'm not sure and I do believe that the reason why I'm feeling that ipso facto I think is because of everything we just said about the Stadium does look good. You remember when that used to be Wade Connie Dwayne Wade and Shaker Man was a good time. What was that, like 2008, 2009? You know, Wade came in with 0-3. We had a nice run.

Won our first chip in 0-6. Then, you know, the Heetles got formed, and then we had another run. The Celtics won the championship in between there, too. The Celtics did what they had. They got a big three. You guys don't even have a fucking coach. Whoa, whoa, whoa. We got a coach.

We don't even have a coach. He's in the front office now. Now he's in the front office. Now we got two coaches. That guy got burned out so bad of coaching in Boston, he fucking quit. He's 25 years old, that coach. He said, I'm burnt out of coaching. He's supposed to be the next great coach.

He's supposed to be the next, who's that dude, downtown Indianapolis? He's taking a knee with all the legs around him. John Wooden. This guy's supposed to be the next John Wooden. All right? I think Indiana offered him like 70 million or something like that to come coach. Oh, yeah. 10 years. all the legs around him this guy's supposed to be the next john wood all right i think indiana offered him like 70 million or something like that coach he's supposed to be the guy he's supposed to be the guy he got burned out so much from being in boston he said i can't fucking do

it anymore i get get me out of this coaching get me get the whistle out of my hand okay get me in a goddamn corporate meeting room now i can't do anymore. You guys suck the life out of the future greatest coach of all time, Brad Stevens. We did not. The bubble did. I mean, he's already top 50 and wins all time, I'm pretty sure. Brad Stevens had a hell of a career. He's going to have a better career as a front office member. Danny H said he was born to do this.

I wouldn't be surprised if Dame Lillard's coming over to Boston, play with old Jason Tatum. Oh, Jason Tatum and Dame would be a hell of a one-two. That would be a hell of a one-two. That would. You like Tatum? You like Tatum as a player? Like Tatum.

Needs another piece around him, though. Love Tatum, though. Jalen Brown. Taco fall. Taco. Taco. Yeah, give him the rock. Big kid.

He laughed in her face. Why are you laughing? Yeah, why are you laughing at Taco? Why are you laughing at Taco that What's that all about Nah I wanna know How you feel about How you really feel about Brad Stevens

You know not being able to Get over the hump With 15 guys So moving to front office So now he has to manage The whole fucking building So how do you feel I mean it doesn't make much sense

But you know You bring in Jason Kidd You have Jason Kidd Run the boys around And teach him how to win Gotcha Just curious how you guys Makes no sense though That's how it feels Hey Darius Darius you're Jason Kidd. You have Jason Kidd around the boys around and you teach him how to win. Makes no sense, though.

That's how it feels. Hey, Derrick, you're not a big fan of what just happened there in Boston? I mean, it's just... When do you see that work? Elway, I think he kind of fired himself

and then moved up. Did Larry Bird do that? Yeah, Larry Bird. Larry Bird was the GM, then the president of operations, I think, and then he was the GM again, and then he was gone, then he was back. I think the Pacers were like, hey, Larry, anytime you want to come around, do whatever you want to do. Come on back, pal.

He did it with the Celtics too, right? Not with the Seas, but he was a coach before he moved into GM, and Jordan beat him. He had a – I mean, Larry, you know Larry Legend. He's kind of earned it. The legend. Yeah, I'll kind of earned it. The legend. Yeah, I'll give.

Love Larry. The legend. I got a chance to chat with him because he was, I think he was president or GM with the Pacers. I was doing something with local news or whatever, and I got a chance to chat with him. And it was just casual, just casual conversation with him. We were being recorded.

He knew we were being recorded, but he didn't want to stand and do the whole thing. So we were just sitting while they were doing practice or whatever just sitting in like one of the arena seats he was just like super chill and uh i go uh you ever shoot anymore no like hell no or whatever i was like how could you shoot he said better than everybody you fucking see hey one of the greatest shit talkers ever man i laughed so hard i laughed so so hard it was I'm like man you are the greatest

and then as more stories come out about him it's just like the three point contest thing is hilarious he shows up who's last second or whatever

wins in warm ups the left hand shit was like he told the team like I'm saving my right hand for the Lakers some shit 25 or 30

I'm like 40 only left handed I gotta fight you we gotta get ejected he's the last one to win three straight MVCs for the Lakers. 25 or 30. I'm like 40. Only left-handed. I got to fight you. We got to get ejected. He's the last one to win three straight MVPs too, I'm pretty sure. Three straight.

That's wild. What was it? It was Magic and Bird, right? They did that on HBO. HBO. It was Magic talking about, he said, there's a white one.

There's a white, he's doing everything I'm doing. He's in Indiana. That's like, that is, by the way, that's how, that's a white. He's doing everything I'm doing. He's in Indiana. That's like, that is. By the way, that's how a real locker room would still act, would always act, and how the whole thing goes. It's like, hey, hey, hey, the white's got one. They got one. And he still doesn't give a fuck about anything.

He had a seat in the Pacers' banker's life. And before that, it was the something field. Field house? Something. Conseco? No. Yeah, yeah, Conseco. It was Conseco and then banker's life.

And then he had a seat that was in the corner by where they go into the locker room. But it was up a little bit so he could see everything. And then it felt like there was never anybody that sat in front of him or behind him and then the whole place was just so he's just sitting there and uh he would just get up randomly and i'm like i wonder where he goes like oh he's gonna smoke two cigarettes real quick oh man he's coming back in i was like oh i thought he's gonna like watch film fire somebody like make a call maybe trade somebody in the middle of the game he'd like get on where's he going like oh he's gonna he's gonna smoke some butts right yeah that guy's awesome beast what a legend man especially when they're playing the heat during like the paul george time i remember there being

like big moments and everyone going nuts and they cut the layer and he doesn't give a sitting man cold not even the finals i don't care uh let's get to a break. No, before we get to a break. Sorry. We have to celebrate. We legitimately have to celebrate. Gumpy is back. Yes! Go Gump! Okay. The Hammered Down Boys go live. 4 p.m. Eastern Standard Time.

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In our office do a show daily they give Out picks they've been winning and winning and winning And winning and then guess what E-A-H-N. A couple degenerates in our office do a show daily. They give out picks. They've been winning and winning and winning and winning. And then guess what? A slump slapped them right in their fucking mouth. Oh, no. Happens to the best of us. Yeah, it does. It happens to everybody, by the way.

That's why what they were doing with this show, I thought they were lying to my face. Like, every day I asked them how they do it. Four and one. He went three and one or whatever. I'm like, you got to be'm like you gotta be lying gotta be lying they were doing that for real gumpy was in the pits he was miserable to be around okay he was not he was not upbeat he was not uh the same old lively hilarious fun loving gumpy because he was taking it on shins on twitter because he was losing last night fucking gumpy's back how do

you feel gumpy that's gotta feel pretty good pal they were counting you out they're saying you were dead undertaker gif how you doing keep it moving huh hey we always bounce back pat we needed it 4-0 night roll that into the weekend and stay hot tales of your demise were greatly exaggerated my friend covid cowboy tone digs how you feeling are you winning still or are you just laughing at Gump? Are you winning alongside of him? What's going on? Has the slump shifted to the Italian kid from Pittsburgh?

No, no, I had a good night, too, last night. The slump was like, what, a day or two? Yeah, yeah. Not really a slump over here. I mean, we're still on top of the world on the MLB betting. I wouldn't doubt us. Okay, so, by the way, you are the standard, you know? So, like, when you have a bad day or two,

compared to what you guys had been doing, you know, that can't become the new normal. I think it's what everybody's saying. It's like, hey, there's a lot of people giving out losing picks all the fucking time. Right. Okay. I mean, I may or may not be one of those people

in certain situations, you know, just because, you know, my emotions get involved a little bit too much. It happens. You guys are calculated. You take emotions out of this thing, and you are becoming a bankroll for people, Tone. Do you look in the mirror and say,

you know what? Not a bad guy I am. Is that what you're saying these days, Tone? I do that a lot, actually, Pat. I mean, I'm glad you brought that up. The standard is the standard. It's what Mike Tomlin says all the time. You know, when he doesn't win a Super Bowl

or potentially go to the AFC Championship, everyone yells at him for that. We have one losing, two losing nights. Everyone does the same for us. I like to think I'm a pretty good guy. Let's get to a break. I like to think you're a pretty good guy too pal hey it's funny you said the um are the stories of our demise are greatly exaggerated because i said the same exact thing on the show yesterday well because you guys are back huh yeah yeah it feels like it till tonight no no no no no you're back we're back Till tonight Nah Nah Nah Nah Nah Nah Nah Nah Nah Nah Nah Nah Nah Nah Nah Nah Nah Nah

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Well if it starts around 30 This is one of those questions on a test where It begins around 30 And the testosterone production declines by roughly 1% per year. So does it start at zero or does it start at 30? That's the thing. This is where they can get you. It's one of them damn word problems.

This is one of those problems where you're like, well, wait a minute, which, can I ask a follow-up? Anyways, I was good at those tests because I always viewed it as me versus the fucking teacher. That's right. I don't know what's going on, but this is me versus you. Fuck you. That's how I view it.

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That's good news. Let's try that stuff. Okay. I've been looking for that type of stuff. That's good news. That's what I want. Now we know. Hey, Roman.

Thank you, Roman. Thank you, Roman. Thank you, Roman. Rob Domofsky has come out and said, he doesn't see how Aaron goes back. He seems to be too dug in. He said that on a Chicago radio show. I think, whoa.

Wasn't waddling. Cap and hood. Yeah. Hey, cap and hood, for that good. If you could, you should and would listen to them in Chicago. Domoski was talking in enemy territory. Justin Fields actually said that one of his friends got drafted to the wrong team, the Packers. So I guess that's a massive beef in this whole thing.

Rob Domoski says he ain't coming back. He's too dug in. We didn't know if you had potentially texted Aaron and got any information since this report has come out. Do you think he's toot dug in, A.J. Hawk, the man who was in the Kentucky Derby picture with his hand being displayed right over his wife's shoulder? Well, I think Bob Demoski, first off, he does great work. I think he's got his ear to the streets or the ear to the train track, whatever you want to call it. However, Connor says it. Or the ground. Ear to the ground or the ear to the train track, whatever you want to call it, however Connor says it. Or the ground.

Ear to the ground, I think. There you go. But he's down. Don't you think he probably did? Just put the face down in there, though. Sorry about that, AJ. Go ahead. He's probably saying this because we haven't heard anything.

We haven't heard anything from either side, from Aaron, from the front office, really. I mean, we've heard what LeFleur has said, how he wants them back in the worst way and all of this. But there just hasn't been any development. So I think everyone probably feels like the longer we go, how are we going to work this thing out? Well, the only developments we're going to get, though,

and Darius said this earlier, he said, when's A.J. Hawk going to fucking tell us something? Yeah, that's exactly what I said. That's what Darius said. That's what Darius said, and I think that's what Bob Domofsky is probably thinking too. Matt Schneidman, you're talking about. The whole world.

Lily. Lily Zhao. Zhao. I mean, there's a lot of people that are just waiting on the good word from A.J. Maybe Miles Teller will come out. Hey. Here we go. Maybe Miles Teller will give a little heads up.

Do we know anything about this? We don't know anything about this situation, huh? No. I mean, there's been no developments. And I haven't spoke with aaron i i'm kind of like you in this situation i just i'm trying to stay away because i don't smart there's no reason for me to sit there and he's not a source to me as rap sheet wanted to say okay so this is very smart i think like um like you're not asking him questions because you don't want to know the answers and don't want to be the one like, hey, I'm not going to be the mouthpiece for you. We're friends. I don't want

to do this. I don't want to get involved in this. There's a lot on the line. I like and respect that a lot. And what you're also saying there, though, and this is what I say about my friends that I don't want to go ask them. Maybe there is information getting out, though, to other people from, you know what I mean mean just because aj isn't hearing it or if somebody i'm close to has news happening i'm not hearing it that's because aj it sounds like you're choosing not to ask or hear anything is that is that fair to say and maybe bob old bobo bobert domovsky does have uh intel from a very high situation or you think this is him reading the situation i mean i

don't know maybe it's some of both maybe i'm sure it's him just reading the situation and being around the the facility all the time but you know like that's i mean i don't there's not like there's you think aaron has like a clear cut plan where he's going to lay out for somebody okay aaron how do they how do we make this better he has like a five-step process of what they have to do okay so aj hawk says aaron does not have a five-step plan on what they could do okay we will now wait for is it six it might be six okay or seven hey however many enter by the way remember to enter remember to enter because however many you want you know what i mean however many you want to guess there's potentially in here but um all right so we just going to act like we know nothing. Bob, I have a lot of respect for Rob Domofsky.

Love him. I love Rob Domofsky. Thank you, Rob. I assume Rob's going to see this. There was some more news that came out this morning, AJ. And you're not really affected by this, I don't think. They're taking Tordahl away from the goddamn NFL. Have you heard this?

Do you think this is my fault, potentially, for being the cheerleader for Toradol in this whole situation? Yeah, just exactly how you are the anti-cheerleader for the Bengals, exposing the fact that they don't have an indoor facility. You are that to give great pub to Torad all and say how amazing it is and you continue to mention it show after show so yeah i figured it was time they're going to take some action they're really going to dig in because you have really brought it to light i guess for people that didn't know about it darius you said that i was current players all are going to want to fight you now

no no this is not me no no i'm not the current player or former player by the way a big part of it though you're you're the guy no no actually it's not me st player or former player, by the way. You're a big part of it, though. You're the guy. No, no, no. Actually, it's not me. You're the old stooge. You're the old retired stooge that says, oh, back in my day. No! No, no, no, no, no, no. You know whose fault it is, though?

There's actually a picture of three men. Okay, there are three men that are being pictured alongside this thing. And I don't think they're necessarily pumped about that either. I think they're supposed to just be answering questions. Former teammate of mine, Andy Studebaker. Andy Studebaker. Friend of mine. I wonder if Stude, you know, potentially.

Was he the spearhead in this whole thing? But don't you believe that if they are against it, they're saying, hey, you will thank me later in life. That's probably what they're saying. And Darius and I talked about this. I don't know, 2012 if they are against it, they're saying, hey, you will thank me later in life. That's probably what they're saying. And Darius and I talked about this. I don't know, 2012 was the year, you think? Yeah, I believe so. 2012, whenever they came out and they said, hey, Tordal, we might have to stop this thing.

Who knows what does your liver and kidney and I think every other. But didn't they say they'll still offer you to take the Tadol pill, which I guess doesn't work nearly as much. That'll still affect your kidneys. Yeah. But then they backed off of it completely. I mean, they backed off of it completely at some point. And Darius said he took it. And Darius said something that was very interesting, too.

Darius said that I was in the era of when the pain killers were being used, like pretty lackadaisical. pain um killers were being used like pretty lackadaisical i mean i did see a couple situations where i was like wow it feels like you're getting access to something that you shouldn't i guess a couple times but was that widespread instead of tort all over there was there a lot of i don't maybe not the doctors promoting it but were guys trying to find other shit to try to mask you know pain or anything like that i mean guys would definitely try to but that's the thing like i said before in green bay they're so conservative with everything they would never you didn't have the doctor walking down there oh you go hey you're throwing pill vials to people you see in movies or hear about on other teams so i definitely knew of it i got in the league in 06

talking to buddies on other teams it was definitely like that at certain places derry's not talking i i my surgeries, you take it. And that's the only reason why I was able to watch that show with your favorite actor in it, because I was kind of laid up or whatever. Oh, your boy Spacey. Yeah, he got a new role. Did you congratulate him on his new role?

Your boy. Your boy. Your guy. I don't pound the desk and say he's my favorite actor. You text him. Listen, I don't wear a pinky ring anymore, but... FaceTime. When Frank Underwood did the double tap with a pinky ring anymore but facetime when frank

underwood did the double tap with his pinky ring with his high school graduation military academy ring that shit was about to fucking pop off on that show little i know it was happening in real life too i didn't know that at the time but anyways i couldn't poop okay i don't i don't know how i don't know how people get past that whole thing but also i guess toward all i feel like works much differently than the painkillers and by the way not a doctor believe it or not have phds what's that you have phds i have um different philosophies of things yes okay phds uh philosophy degrees or whatever the hell that is but I think the way they operate is differently The painkiller I think

It shuts off something in your brain So it doesn't feel the pain I think I think that is what it does The Toradol that thing felt like it hit my whole body I mean it felt like my whole So I think there's a difference between the anti Is it Toradol and anti-inflammatory Yeah there's a difference between the anti-inflammatory

And the pill And I all an anti-inflammatory yeah there's a difference between the anti-inflammatory and the the pill and i think the anti-inflammatory right that seems to be much better for you than maybe the painkiller but guys aren't going to be they're not worried the guys are going to be all hopped up on vikadin and percocet playing games now because they can't get toward all i would imagine well and does this younger crew crew even know you know like you said you came in you heard stories when we came in we heard like is the younger generation i don't know derrick she might i don't know maybe they care about their maybe they're more conscious care about their body more but i mean you said we were just trying to get no get to care about your body right now don't you you're playing in league i care about how my body feels how did you have a day in the league hey you aj what torn pec yeah torn calf

yeah popped groin yeah broken every single finger yeah needed like four knee surgeries I didn't break any I've never broken any finger

no bullshit it's ligament damage it's not a cow put your hands up torn pec he said by the way he had black and blue

all down his entire arm so it was like legit yeah right and that what happened yeah under the skin yeah that's when I woke up and it was like legit. Right? Isn't that what happened? Yeah, under the skin, yeah.

That's when I woke up and I was like, oh, this may be something. This may be something. You missed one game that entire time. What did you do? You just stared it down? You're the lady giving birth with no pain? No epidural. How were you able? I never had it.

I never had it, so I never knew what it felt like to have to it all. So that's just, you just learn, that's just what you do. Like, what else am I going to do? I enjoy playing. I want to be out there. Why would I not? Here's the official report out of Ian Rappaport. It was also a Pro Football Talk article.

Ian Rappaport, though, an NFLPA memo went to players on the use of Toradol via the Joint Pain Management Committee. In the memo, due to the risk of Toradol causing major bleeding. Really? Uh-oh. Toradol should not be used prior to, during, or after NFL games or practices as a means of reducing anticipated pain. No, it's anti-inflammatory.

That's what it looks. I mean, as means of reducing anticipated pain, people will be like, are you taking this to reduce anticipated pain? No, no, no. Just make them find the way for them. Absolutely. But anyways, down here is the players that are part of the joint pain management committee. And Studebaker is that first one right on top.

Give him a call. Give him a call. That's the way god oh my god his email too hey studey does not deserve that did rapid report tweet that yeah once again studey this is not my report okay this office line yeah hopefully it's an office line not a cell oh an office line, not a cell. Either way. Oh, my. I didn't even see that. I've always been up on the net since, what, two days? This morning? Speaking of which, I think a similar situation actually happened to AJ yesterday. He sent something to Bakhtari, and he posted the picture, and AJ's address was right on there.

AJ, we know where you live now. Was it really? Oh, yeah. I retweeted it. He deleted it immediately. Someone was like, hey, I know it's blacked out. We can see AJ's address. Take it down and put it back up.

I didn't even know that. Yeah. Hey, man. Billy Tube's coming over. Good luck. Come on down, buddy. We are prepared. Come on down.

Whoa, what does that mean? What does that mean? You got to be ready for anything, man. Of course, dude. Gotta be ready. Let's not get distracted here, though, because we kind of did there with a rap report kind of, you know. But the Tordahl thing. Go back to Tordahl.

Hey, don't you think they're just gonna make guys time away? No, how'd you play? How'd you play? What'd you do? I never knew what it's like to have Tordahl. What'd you eat your Wheaties in the morning, dude? You ate your Wheaties? You had your vitamins? Like, what the fuck did you... I had to do something.

You had to do something. How? You're a superhuman? How did you... No, you take... My Toradol was four Advil, two Tylenol before games. Okay. All right.

Okay. So there we go. All right. So now we figured it out. All right. Yeah. Then that made me feel just so warm. My whole body just felt amazing after that.

No, I'm joking. Didn't feel anything. You know what I drank? Alka-Seltzer. I drank Alka-Seltzer before games, too. That's an anti-cramp mechanism. Really? Because remember, they used to show up with, what was it, way back in the day, bananas?

Coconut water? Bananas, yeah. Pickle juice. Oranges. What was it, way back in the day? Bananas? Coconut water? Pickle juice? Bananas, yeah.

Pickle juice. Oranges? I never had an issue cramping, but Brian Engle, Flea, a great trainer in Green Bay, and Nate Weir, they both turned me on to it. And I still, every once in a while, just for old time's sakes, I'll drink some Alka-Seltzer. Reminds me of games. Put on a helmet? Put on a helmet.

No, no helmet. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Put on a helmet. Run your head into a wall or two. Don't grab every Advil bottle. Oh, my God. You guys talked about weed. Do you think that would be – I mean, it wouldn't be the same effect as Toradol,

but would that be like a reasonable replacement to Toradol? Go ahead, dude. Pre-game? There's nothing pre-game that's a replacement. No? There you go. I mean, I would have to agree with that. I mean, I wouldn't smoke before a game.

Me neither. By the way, me, I don't know why that I mean I wouldn't smoke before a game Me neither By the way Me I don't know why D-Bot wouldn't do it I would practice and try things Very very much It's why I have the house It's literally the reason why I bought the house that I have Because it had a massive field in the back

And I could kind of do that thing But if I did it on a game and I fucked up I always thought like I don't want people to I don't want to have to sleep with You know like that I don't want people to think that but that we've talked about this before there's some guys who can't play without it some great great players great i mean every everybody's different though everybody's different but um like i said the cbd it's a natural thing

that doesn't get you high that could help but um a good old shot man that's what i think they're gonna give it hey i don't think it's going anywhere. I just think they're going to make you make sure the waiver is foolproof. If something happens in the future, we're out of it. I think 2012, they were trying to scare people out of it. Instead, it potentially exposed more people to it. They're like, okay, let's go

do that. And I don't know if this is going to be a similar situation, but the bleeding thing is a little bit alarming. And then I think as you read deeper, it was about concussions, I though so like i think i don't know i don't know there's so much shit going on man with lawsuits potential lawsuits future lawsuits current lawsuits anytime you get into the billion dollar business you know there's going to be dumb shit shady shit and future shit you're going to have to deal with that's what all this is about and that's why like for instance and darius i didn't get a chance to get your to hear your take on this and i

respect the hell out of you that race norming thing did you hear about this fucking thing did you that was how did that happen like how does that happen by the way my entire i let off the show with it yesterday where i was like i think a lot of people are learning a lot about the world that we live in about how potential things could happen i was very lucky to be in a locker room i got a chance to go to some neighborhoods and communities that i would have never been to in the past see things and learn things and i think as the world kind of opens that race norming thing though that is so dumb and disgusting you're like how does this be that's because in every single contract negotiation that these savages get into they're just trying to win by any means necessary and that's why

however they're just trying to win and fuck over the other person however no matter how despicable and disgusting it is and i think that is something that has to change in the future like obviously that whole entire thing has to change in the future but also the way business is done has to change in the future like obviously that whole entire thing has to change in the future but also the way business is done has to be done differently but that's why all these that's fucking that was fucking wild to read to even just read the headline um you know seeing that in 2021 uh the bigger issue though is you know that was that wasn't just them that was like medically like world like world but that was kind of accepted for a while. Like, okay, the cognitive levels are different with this race and that race, which is absolutely crazy. But the lawyer, I think his name is Christopher Seeger. He's representing the NFL PA?

Yeah, who was hired by the PA. I think his law firm might have raked in like 50 million in legal fees. Damn. I think his law firm might have Raked in like 50 million illegal fees Damn And then you get that And this shit would have never saw the light of day If it wasn't for the players wives

Who actually was going through the red tape Like hold on this is bullshit How about that guy coming out And saying I was representing the players In this thing And I was wrong I just know that

You know a large majority By the way Of the league's people I was just completely spitting in their face. And it's like, what? Fuck you. Then you immediately, if you're a player now, you have to wonder, like, OK, who's representing me in everything? In everything. If this is able to happen in one of the biggest settlements in the history of the NFL and the NFLPA, by the way.

This was one of the biggest. If it's able to happen then, not that long ago, what other shit's happening currently with some? Absolutely. It's just like, that's the type of like, I'm a big like, oh, if that's happening, what else is happening? You know, and it's hard not to do that. These are dudes dealing with dementia like some real shit. So you're making it harder for them to get you know their money or help or whatever like yes that's i mean it's a dirty it's a dirty game though we know that let's get back to the topic of uh dope shall we though let's please do that because i don't know if there will ever be

uh i mean maybe there'll be a strand that is uh developed by some genius who has the green thumb. Yeah. They can get in there and just turn any piece of soil into something profitable. You know, maybe somebody will get into the marijuana where it'll be able to be a replacement for Toradol or there'll be something that'll be able to have that type of effect as an anti-inflammatory in how it works for guys and everything. But I think like a a i think a marijuana treatment should be something that rolls into the nfl soon like you know what i mean well they're

doing yeah they're doing like ptsd they're using ecstasy like in medical trials to treat ptsd for soldiers and everyone but i'm saying like their entire like um like i think the nfl could now obviously the nfl probably going to be behind on some things, and then they'll just catch up very quickly because that's what the NFL does. It feels like the NFL lets other people kind of do their thing and then see it, and then they do it. So as marijuana becomes more normal, especially as more research is done, says the gubernatorial debate in Indiana,

the NFL actually investing in their own scientists potentially to create things that players can either get or or something like that to go alongside their arthritis that a lot of guys have to deal again or something like that like i think that would be a pretty smart idea but that but what's that 20 years away you think yeah 30 years away probably so until then tordell is going to be a part of the conversation. All the big pharma pills are always going to be a part of the conversation because as bodies change and science evolves, there's always going to have to be remedies, though, for pain,

which is never going away. That's just kind of how everything's going to happen. It's said that you can't do it before games or practices anymore. Was there like a mandate on how much guys could take or were there guys who would get toward all every single day? I knew nobody. Not every day. Not every day for practice.

I knew nobody that got it every day. Night before and morning of, some people got it. Maybe Michael Jackson's doctor would give it to you every day, but no NFL doctor would. What was his name? Conrad Murray. Hey, he was giving surgery stuff that's not sleeping right yeah i don't think i ever come out of surgery i've been like

fucking refreshed yeah the mike kanye's mom too really i'm pretty sure it's the same doctor now that was down in like a different country i feel like kanye's mom maybe he did actually i think he may be connected to kanye's mom somehow i think they're somehow connected i don't know how but it's crazy but so what michael jackson didn't sleep for how many years then because that's not sleeping you're just getting knocked out right so i assume that that's crazy anyways doctors have a lot of power let's hope they take care of people and i would like to see more studies about when i'm gonna die because it's toward all use that i definitely did once a week, 17 weeks. Do you want to know, though?

Do you really want to know? No. That's like I have a couple of friends in the league who I watched a concussion movie and I told them, hey, you watch this? I don't want to know. Smart. Yeah. Because I thought about you.

I thought about you while watching it. That's a smart idea. I think I view it the same way. I think I actually view it the same way. Thanks for the actually view it the same thanks for the text though thanks for thinking of me when you saw a whole movie about head truck no no no no it wasn't you know i mean they brought it up not me it was just like you're probably far enough removed from it though aren't you i don't know what from like take i mean i feel like what i don't know this shit who knows what you know who knows what was in that honestly

8 straight years of it yeah yeah yeah once a week for no only 7 and a half does it cause internal bleeding or does it cause everything I wonder if it's like a blood thin or two I wonder just a major and that's the worst

thing you know when you get injured like you don't want a bunch of blood or swelling going to it. By the way, his arm, right? I mean, that's what an anti-inflammatory is, is moving fluid and blood mostly away from something. So, is it a blood thinner, potentially? I have no idea. We don't know any of this shit. All I know is it's not me.

All right? It's not me. Who is it, then? Who got this thing rolling, then then if it wasn't you? You saw the picture of the guy. You just saw his phone number. No, Andy Studebaker. I don't know.

Studebaker is not pumped to be the guy. That picture is right below this. With his phone number. I called him, by the way. I called him immediately upon reading it. Where is this from? That's that same article. That's the NFLPA, though.

Okay, this is the NFLPA releasing this, and this is the reason why. Due to the risk of Toradol causing major bleeding, specific recommendations include Toradol should not be used prior to, during, or after NFL games or practices as a means of reducing anticipated pain. Toradol should be given in its oral preparation under typical circumstances as it is recognized that the oral preparation has a faster onset of action than the oral preparation has a faster onset of action than the IM preparation, has a duration action that is equivalent to the IM and IV forms,

and has a plasma concentration time curve that is early identical to the IM and IV preparations. IM and IV injection of Toradol should not be used except following an acute game-related injury where visceral or central nervous system bleeding is not expected and where other oral or intranasal pain medications are inadequate or not be tolerated so basically saying that sounds like any any studebaker wrote that yeah verbatim sounds like studi no i'm joking that was obviously what 400 lawyers and five doctors put that so they want you to take the pill though they want you to take the the oral pill and i read what they said on paper though that doesn't mean that's reality though i think we've all tried the

uh and guys say it doesn't work yeah yeah yeah yeah well that's the middle of their paragraph there as i was reading i thought to myself oh this is a bunch of fucking bullshit here you know it takes way the pill takes longer. I tried the pill before. That's what I did before the shot. It just takes way longer. The pill would be harder on your insides, too. It has to go through your liver twice, a pill rather than an injection.

Yeah, but the injection, what, that goes right to the whole body, right? That's right in the blood, sure. I don't know. Gump. Yeah, I just, like, whenever, whenever i mean talking steroids like if you did injectables rather than orals injectables are better for you because they only go through your bloodstream once rather than twice like the pills okay so that is at bubba gumpino who is not a doctor. Those are his. I would trust Gump over these doctors.

Okay. Especially after. Yeah. Yeah. But the, I would like everybody to know that's listening or watching. That was a Canadian guy. Okay. Who might have done his own research.

Does not have an MD. We do not. We do not necessarily want to be associated. Hey, Canadians do. To Gump's point, that was what they were warning against, I believe, wasn't it? Because it does accelerate internal bleeding and central nervous system issues. So they were saying, don't inject it, Gump, because it will do exactly what you just talked about. So what's the IM? Intramuscular.

Yeah. So that's shot? Yeah, that's the shot. And the IV's a drip? There's a difference there? Yeah. Intramuscular. Yeah. So that's shot injection. Yeah, that's the shot. And the IV's a drip? There's a difference there? Yeah. Intravenous. Goes straight in the vein. Wait, when do you get a drip of Tordal? I think you get it. I don't know if I've never. I assume

they do that though, right? I think, yeah. I think, yeah. I think they do do that. I just got it right in the brain. Most people just like, but I used to get an iv pre-game too for you know hydration purposes so sometimes they would just can i ever freak out hey sometimes i see they had the fucking worst yes like because you know you got nurses who do that daily but then you got these 70 year old team doctors who do them once a week and they're just pop pop pop

and i had heart veins to get into so that yeah that was man i hated that yeah i remember watching because i was never a big like hey strap me up to uh you know a rocket here pal i need hydrated even though you know i was big time sweater i would lose some weight in pre-season okay but like watching that whole thing happen, I always get like a little. But those respected doctors kind of just playing almost like whack-a-mole with these needles trying to get them in there. I was almost getting sick or whatever. And then that conversation happened. They're like, these doctors are even saying like, oh, we do this only a couple times.

We do it for you guys. That's it. We don't do this at all. And it's like, ah, damn. Can we get somebody to maybe do a proper stabbing here? I mean, that is what you got to do. That's IV, though. That's intravascular.

Not IM. Not intramuscular. Not intramuscular. Would they have to wait, like the NFL, to do the whole weed transition, if they were to think about that, for it to be legalized federally? Like everywhere?

Yes. Yeah, that would have to happen. Because I thought in the United States of Goodell, when Denver legalized it, I was like, everybody's going to go to the Broncos. We're going to learn a lot about the players that are trying to get to the Broncos. Because my first

thought was, okay, it's mile high and dope is legal? I love the Colts, but is there any way I could potentially maybe have the same rules here in India as there is in Denver, you know? And then United States, Gadel did write a memo to everybody, and they said,

here in our particular country, we don't give a fuck about what the local laws are. Okay? Don't be smoking any fucking dope. Don't be smoking dope't fucking dope that's basically what they said and i think they even said until it's federally legalized or something like that they won't even it's gonna be a long time it's gonna be a long time but i like the megatrons getting in the game maybe more maybe some nfl owners will get in the game i assume jerry jones

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in the sports world we've covered meteorology we've covered big pharma we've covered dope we've covered football we've covered nba we will we've covered dope, we've covered football, we've covered NBA. We will talk golf at some point because people are getting escorted out by the police from the Memorial Golf Tournament in Ohio for screaming at Bryson DeChambeau. Let's go, Brooks. Hey! Let's go, Brooks. Hey! Come on now, Brooks.

Come on. In the ever-evolving Brooks Koepka, Bryson DeChambeau, golf beef that we are all here for. I don't know how it ends. I know Brooks got a lot more wins than Bryson has at the moment, but Bryson is golf ball whacker guy. I think A.J. Hawks just joined us back in. We just called him and got connected to him.

Hey, A.J., how's it going, dude? Hey. Is it a male or female? Because my wife's over there. I hope she didn't get row him. Hey, AJ, how's it going, dude? Hey, AJ. Is it a male or female? Because my wife's over there. I hope she didn't get rowdy. Hey, it was full crew. I guess there was groups of people getting escorted out from what is being reported in your backyard, by the way. Aren't you right next door to that?

Yeah, I drove by it, dropped my kids off today. My wife's out there for a few hours today, so hopefully she's all right. What's she doing? Is she working an event? Is she just hanging out watching golf? She's going to, you know, it's a thing. It's a big party. We have different people that, you know, their companies sponsor different things.

So she's just hanging out watching some golf, I guess. Oh, you go tent hopping at this tournament. You guys go tent to tent. That's around the greens, and that's kind of how it all goes. I did the open, or no, the open, no. Whatever's that the Oak want? Could have been a U open or no, the open. No. Whatever's at the Oakmont. Could have been a U.S. Open. U.S. Open.

And we did not do it right. I mean, we paid a lot of money to get passes to walk that thing around. There's people that were in tents that had like air conditioning. They had a much better time than I had, I think. I don't know if I did it right. Is that what your wife's doing? Is that what you will do after this, by the way, for the rest of the weekend? You'll be over there? No, I don't think. I don't know if I'm it right. Is that what your wife's doing? Is that what you will do after this, by the way, for the rest of the weekend? You'll be over there?

No, I don't think. I don't know if I'm going to make it over or not. Maybe take some kids over on Sunday. I usually go today, but obviously I've been doing this, and I could have gone until like 1130. Bro, you should have skipped this. I mean, we appreciate you. Thank you, AJ.

Thank you, AJ. We appreciate you, but you should have skipped this for sure. No. Oh, AJ. Thank you, AJ. We appreciate you, but you should have skipped this for sure. No. Oh, no. I've never missed this, especially when I booked. Schlage's coming on here. Zito, he's texting me and said call back or something, so I don't know what's going on.

Okay, that's good booking, by the way. That's live booking. That's letting a producer in the back know to call him back because we call from the office computer, studio computer, and it is under a different number, different name. I assume a lot of these people that we've never talked to before it shows up i ain't fucking answering this a facetime get out here dude this ain't our life the guy that's about to join us for the first time ever darius have you

ever heard of this dude before what's the name again anthony schlegel no i'm not could have lied that's why darius he's dariusarius Butler. You've seen him, though. The picture we used for the guest announcement today, he was strength and conditioning coach, I think, at Ohio State or whatever. Somebody charged the field. He rock bottoms guy. Like grabs guy who's wearing classic Sperry's, it looks like. Yeah, he rock bottoms kid.

Definitely senior. Yeah, exactly. He is now uh i don't know his official title but i know he's he's running the bodies down there for the jacksonville jaguar team he is the director of head strength and conditioning head strength and conditioning coach ladies and gentlemen joining us now not only a buckeye hero he's on a cereal box not only got it rock bottom some random kid charging a field who deserved it 1 000 now head strength and conditioning coach for one of the 32 nfl teams there's only 32 of these jobs on planet earth for the jacksonville jaguars donna and duval connie ladies and gentlemen aj hawk's great friend,

Anthony Schlegel. Schlegs, what are you doing, dude? I don't know. I'm trying to find my camera on this thing. I don't even know. What's up? What are we doing? Hey, what do we have today?

Did we work out today? I see we're sleeveless. We got the guns out. What do we got going on? You know, got a little guns. What? What? What? Sheesh. How's OTAs going i i want to let you know schlegs uh we'd love to gonna talk about everything ohio state with you obviously your

icon there and the rock bottom of the player is awesome your friendship with aj we'll talk about all that but we just talked about as somebody who's down there in jacksonville and i forget who told us they they said urban was reaching out to him like hey when you get in the building like it was we signed you when we get into this one the boycott was talking and then now there's the numbers are coming out of the amount of people that are down there Trevor I mean Timmy Tebow's down what's the mentality what's the mindset we just saw the Chiefs the Chiefs are in training camp mode right now it feels like how are the Jaguars and I assume that's a big part of your job right now. Absolutely.

I mean, first off, it's humbling, one, to be a strength coach. Like you said, one of 32. But just the amount of guys that we have. I mean, we had, I think we averaged 65 guys during OTA phase one. I mean, it was amazing. They were coming in, spilling it, working hard. And now days where we have all 90 and that's just a testament to one coach meyer our coaching staff our culture the sports performance team and the guys just buying in and going out there and working on

the crowd because at the end of the day the only reason i made it one being a former player both you guys were players it's's all about the eyes. And it's our job to increase their value and extend their career. And guess what? Go win games. And when you present that to them and then you back it, man, and you have that high leadership factor, they're all in. So it's just fun to be a part of.

Hey, Slakes, we know you coached for Urban. The picture that they posted was you blasting the guy that charged the field. I'm sure we'll talk about it. So you coached for him back at Ohio State. Now you're with him there, the head guy in Jacksonville. Have you noticed any – like is Urban able to coach these guys the same way he was able to coach in college? I'll tell you what, man.

There's one thing about Coach Meyer, he's great with people. And, yeah, he's hard. He's a hard coach. But he cares about these guys i mean i've heard guys come up and talk to me like i've never had a coach like that oh these are guys we're all pro guys i've never had what do they mean there yeah what does that mean what do you mean like he seems genuinely interested because i the thing that came really interested he gives a shit about him he understands that he understands there's a small window you guys we all know this you have a small window i only played two years in a freaking league aj you played for 10 pat you played for

20 years it's like you have a small window to go make as much money as you possibly plan can play in the game you love and guess what our job is to help you in the fundamentals win games and also rejuvenate your body and take care of you so you can extend your career schlegs oh mind blown that we guys love that yeah and by the way that is like whenever you talk about what you think a coach should be it's like that seems like what it should be it's not always like that some people get too invested in either the X's and O's, the business side. They're like, hey, just show up. There's always something.

And I think when Urban was talking about the free agency, you know, because he was signing people, he was like, I'm signing people. I haven't even met them yet. I haven't even shook their hand yet. Like, it feels like he does have that, like, connectivity, a connection with his players. It's nice to hear that that is translating into the NFL. Yeah, he absolutely

loves the guy i mean like that's the best part of our job if there's nobody here i'm just in a i'm just in a random room with a bunch of weights yeah i love that and i want to get bumpy sometimes and train my face off but yeah guess what it's a hundred times better when there's people in it yeah yeah i just i think there are some otas uh that aren't you know with a lot of people their strengths coaches losing their minds around the nfl i'd assume um let's talk about urban meyer though college to nfl and you can sign a free agency you bring in trevor lawrence obviously the team is going to need a reboot but the big thing is you know in college you can recruit and you can get like for instance ohio state's got this kid with a mullet who might be the greatest.

Yeah. Yeah, it's beautiful. He might be the greatest player to ever play football in the history of anything. But anyways, that's like Nick Saban, Urban Meyer, Dabo. You know, there's like guys that are just known. They can recruit and their players are better than everybody in the NFL. known they can recruit and their players are better than everybody in the nfl the difference between talent is very very small even between the greatest and the guys that don't make it what are you telling these guys to generate the best them possible i assume strength coach a lot

of time is spent with the strength coach a lot of time in the weight room it's a different relationship than it is with the coaches it's a different relationship than with the front office what are you telling some of the either the young guys who don't know the league yet because it feels like you might have a young roster, but also the guys like, hey, it's not that big of a difference in skill here as opposed to the college. Are you a motivational speaker in there, Schlage? What are we doing?

What are we saying? Oh, man. I mean, one, you've got to make it individualized. So what we did, I mean, guys, we had 40 guys here before we even started OTAs. I mean, it's one of the things of Jacksonville. I mean, it's a great place to live. I just moved down here from Columbus, Ohio back. I mean, I think coach got the job on the 15th. I was down here on the 17th. We had guys starting to come in and what you do is you make it individualized for them, right? What are the areas of your game that you want to improve upon

all right is the acceleration is in your hip and quad flexibility except you need to get stronger lower body upper body more explosive whatever right you come up with that individual plan for that athlete and then they get to see the results of that that's the biggest difference between what we do here and what i think you can do in the college level because there's so many guys there now you can get into the weeds of what that guy needs plus you have rookies to eight ten-year vets they all need something different i'm just not going to put a bar on the guy's back and say everybody does straight bar back squats you don't do that right you see what they need to extend their career have a great season today this year and then you go do that and when you invest that type of care in them they're all in

and so i'll give you a quick snippet we wanted to work on accelerations for our wide receivers three steps and five yards we filmed every single acceleration they did for them and then cut it and put it in their own private bucket because guys don't want to watch other guys they want to watch themselves getting that takes a lot more time energy and effort to do but guess what they love it and so they can see that and they can use that to coach themselves as to what i need to do to get better so like so i'm just wondering if you feel some added as to what i need to do to get better slags hey so i'm just wondering if you feel some added pressure now so i know timmy tobo sign with the team we've seen the pictures this dude is absolutely jacked are you up are you worried that he's bigger than

you comes yeah let's say he comes in there slags and all of a sudden four weeks into the program he looks like he's shrunk a little bit and lost some muscle. Are you worried that that's going to be on you? Wow. No. Hey, listen, I can't have Tim losing weight. First off, he's not because he eats all the time. He takes care of his body. I will say this.

He made me self-conscious. So he rolled in here sleeveless. I like where it's sleeveless because it's florida i want to get tan i've been living in you know ohio in the midwest yeah exactly so you come to florida i don't want to have a farmer's tan i want to have like a nice bronzed tan redneck tan yeah farmer redneck we know the deal yeah come on yeah so when i go back and see my wife you know it's like hey papa schlake looks good. He walks in. He walks in the building the first week.

My dudes on the staff are like, Schlage, you might want to put your shirt back on. Because Tim is jacked. You know, we got, I mean, we got a bunch of yoked up dudes. So guess what? Papa Schlage better get his mind right. I'm not playing videos anymore because you can't you know i can't be in here training in jeans and combat boots like i used like i normally do car hearts are out of the window because it's 90 degrees down here but i still got to get after it because you know when

called upon i have to respond and that's the other thing like on like on fridays guys come in if they want to get extra work. Let's get bumpy, man. Hey, who wants to work out today with me? All right, let's go. And I had Tyler Shally. We were doing manual shoulders. He's an offense lineman. He absolutely beat the crap out of me.

And I was like, are you coming back this week? Because I want some more. It's just fun dancing back and forth. Darius Butler played nine years in the league has a question for you hey what's up what's up coach nice to meet you man i played uh played for two um great great uh strength conditioning coaches jerry martin and uconn and uh mike walsick up there in new england was it any uh coaches that you looked up to or you like you know saw and said inspired you to be that you know um worse he is

one like he's he's touched so many different lives he genuinely cares about his people marcus paul who recently passed was when i had him when i was with the jets uh for me you know mickey marati was one coming from ohio state and i i grew up brianbson, my dad, Brian Dobson was a gym, a Metroplex gym that I worked at growing up. I mean, he owned it, he ran it, he trained me. But it was all of them shared this one thing in common. It's always about the attitude and intensity of which you train, but pushing their athletes

and that relationship with the athletes. That's why I became a strength and conditioning coach and not a position coach, because I wanted to be around all of them. And I think you'd have a greater impact as a strength coach. This is why I chose the profession. And then like you said, it's a very small profession. And I know so many of the guys that are in the league that I still have

conversations with now. Being able to share information back and forth now that I'm in it and I'm in Jacksonville and I got guys that are in my division that I know and guys you know like Aaron's former or not I can't say former he's still with the Packers right I mean um he's an Northeast Ohio guy you know you get it's a very small community that you have each other's back that you can talk about training you can talk about guys you can talk about hang up so you're going to see when you go to camp or hey we're dealing with covid i mean you want to talk about logistics and operations and what are you guys doing to you know still serve your athletes in the best possible manner having to deal with covid protocols i mean we can only

train 20 guys in the building or only have 20 guys in the building during uh what was it pre-otas then it became i can only have 15 guys in the weight room what are we talking about right and now now i can divide my weight room with a curtain and have 15 on one side and 15 on another and then 15 outside so i could have 45 guys in town well hey schlakes you're doing a great job with it pal hey appreciate you what are we doing hey what are we what are we doing hey we hey we beat it though by the way especially down here in florida you take that sleeves off feels like we beat that thing out here we beat it now you can't say that because you'll get yelled at whatever but i can't i'm sports stooge um it has to feel good and i assume talking to

other strength and conditioning coaches you can get the the gist that maybe there's some jealousy in some places sounds like the con family is gonna build urban whatever the fuck he wants right now i mean it sounds like they're building an entire new city and this is obviously it's good business for jacksonville jaguars to get people in their hotel and everything like that but also the sports performance everything they're building this is a golden opportunity for Urban with an owner that seems to be all in you getting a chance to display your I mean this I would assume the mood around the Jacksonville Jaguars and you aren't there beforehand is much different now than it was just a year ago or two years ago it feels like they're kind of going all in huh oh absolutely I mean I always like to say

charge it to winning right well how do you how do you win in the National Football League you take care of your players you know if in our league if I have healthy guys every single Sunday I have a greater opportunity to win football games than if I'm missing five starters on defense. That's just facts. So if I can rejuvenate them and give them everything they possibly need from strength conditioning, nutrition, rejuvenation, and I like rejuvenation more than recovery because where do you recover to?

I want to rejuvenate to mass capacity. Exactly. Exactly. So you have that in there. You have your athletic training. All those different things come together along with a facility, right? Then you talked about the four seasons and the med center and the performance center there too.

Everything needs to be in one place for the athlete. You know, that's my – that's Coach's vision that I share 100% is that every resource you need to extend your career and be successful on the field should be free to you and in one location. And that's what they're doing. And when you have an owner that is willing to spend that type of capital, I saw our president the other day before they launched the thing,

I just said, hey, bro, I appreciate you, and I appreciate what you're doing for our players. Thank you. It's real. Hey, what about the old wrestling angle? We know Urban handed his laptop over to Chris Jericho, blasted the dude's head. What was in that? Charlie Strong's throwing footballs.

Were you there? Did you get to work out with Jericho? Like, what happened? No, I mean, I didn't get that memo. That's a shame. Maybe they haven't read my resume or seen it on YouTube. I can wrestle. I grew up wrestling. I have a wrestling background. I'm pretty animated. I'm sure I could follow a script and go rogue.

Whoa, whoa, whoa. There's no script. There ain't no script out there, okay? It's all real. It's all real. It's all real. I mean, I could definitely have done something. But you know what, though? The more that you can do, right? Hey, here's this laptop. Yeah, smash that, dude.

Awesome. That was just great because AEW is right here. The venue is like right outside these doors. So to have that kind of collaboration is really fun and our guys get a kick out of it uh the boys at the toxic table here have plenty of questions and i have my last one here is tim tebow everything you thought he was gonna be like every workout every practice is it just because outside when he got signed he was hated hated. I mean, it was a hated decision. We, you know, he's a Jacksonville legend. This is Tim Tebow.

Him and Urban Meyer's relationship runs deep, obviously. And if Tim Tebow is running, looking the way he is, maybe this guy can, basketball players have figured out how to play tight end. Maybe Tim Tebow can do it. Who knows how this whole thing pans out in that whole thing. What has it been like with Tim Tebow coming into that building that team and uh also trevor how has trevor been dealing with maybe the tebow effect or you think that is that is dealt with anything at all yeah i would say for trevor zero effect uh he just comes in and works and grinds and you work with brian shotterhammer one of the best

coaches in the nfl with quarterbacks uh so he he's fine working with Tim. I mean, first off, you come in, our units are fantastic. I mean, you come into a tight end room. We got James LaChancie, Chris Manhurts, Ben Ellison, Tyler Davis. Great room, bunch of hardworking guys. You add Tim in the mix, he's fantastic. He takes care of himself, and he goes out there and he practices hard. It doesn't matter what your name is or who you are. Like, you got to go out there and add value to a team.

And whenever we get to camp and you get to put the pads on, when you really play football, you know, if you can, you can. If you can't, you can't. But I tell you what, though, from everything that he's done here, guys generally like him and respect it. And he just goes out there and does his job. And that's all you can expect. I don't understand why people get so pissy about those type of things.

They shouldn't. You know, if you can make it, you can make it. And I'll tell you this, too. My mindset to everybody, I don't care who you are, undrafted free agent, first-round draft pick, doesn't matter, man. We're going to do everything we possibly can to maximize you. That's it. Hey, by the way, that's why strength coaches are loved by everybody right now.

And I love that you do just fit the mold perfectly also an ex-player which is fantastic go ahead connor yeah papa schlegs uh sticking with t-ball a story was surfacing that when he was 14 years old he did uh 316 curls of uh 55 pounds can you clarify that story or uh i can't clarify that story. The way his biceps look now, he was getting bumpy when he was 13 years old. Yeah, 14.

Getting bumpy. I might have to go try to replicate that and tear my biceps off. 100% bullshit. No way to do it. He couldn't move his arms from all the way. Get out of here. His hands were locked like this.

Get out of here. There was one kid behind him. He didn't want to leave any doubt that he was going to beat that kid. Yes, we beat your heart. Just random stories. Go ahead, Ty. Coach Slakes, going back to you and AJ's athletic primes at Ohio State or in the league, if you guys were to go head up one-on-one,

are you putting AJ's ass into the dirt? How does that shake out? First off, AJ's way more athletic. I mean, he's way more athletic than me. So you can't even say athleticism there because it's, it's like here. And then I don't know where my camera is or where you can see me. Right.

But AJ is super athletic. He's a freak. Bobby was athletic and a freak. Like I'm not, you know, I just was a tough guy that wanted to knock your dick off. That's a, so you,

a sledgehammer head, huh? aj is that what uh i mean look at look at his jaw we like for real we still when we get together we punch slag's jaw the jacksonville jaguars head of strength and conditioning gets punched in the face every single time he sees his old college roommates because they love his jawline. You are an absolute specimen. Never would have guessed this guy was going to be a strength in the industry. Oh, Schlage, we appreciate you, man. What do you guys have?

You have a long weekend. Was it Monday through Thursday? What's the schedule? Yeah, Monday through Thursday we come back and we go Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, rejuvedate, and then another practice Thursday, and then we got minicamp the following week. So, you know, I get on a plane.

I fly home to Columbus, Ohio, see my family, and get rejuvenated, and I fly back, and I spill it for our guys. That's the MO. Does Sean let you use it? Sean give you his plane? It's a small plane. It's not urban on it.

No, no, no, man. no man it's southwest baby that's where you're that's where you want to be anyways that's where schlegs is right you you're by the way you know kind of rounding up everybody let's go let's get on his plane and then motivating the plane by the way hey let's get back on the ground here let's do that entire thing uh i would be i'd be a terrible host if i didn't ask yeah Yeah, hit me. Trevor Lawrence. How, why, is he supposed to be the guy since he's like 10 years old, basically? He seems to be just like one of the coolest customers of all time. He gave some quotes in, I think, a GQ article or something like that where he said, you know, if I lost football, it wouldn't kill me,

and people would start taking that out of question. It's like this guy, he's the the guy has been the guy seems like he's been a professional almost his entire life is that kind of what it's like with him around and how do you think he's kind of handled his first couple months here as being an nfl quarterback oh he's done fantastic i mean his routine is a pro pro-life routine just coming right out of college he comes in the weight room. He handles his business. He gets all of his rejuvenation, you know, doing his film study with Brian. Everything that he does, he's already becoming a leader on the team

just simply by his actions, without even sitting on the field for one game. It's just his presence, right? He just – that's what great leaders, great athletes do, right? They're game changers not only in the game but with their teammates and so you know from everything that i've been able to you know all the times i've been able to be around so far he's exceeded expectations he's already gaining weight he loves training he loves everything about football. How much weight are you trying to get him to gain, Slags? Oh, man.

Weight is relative, right? There's always – Here we go. You fucking said he's gaining weight, Papa Slag. You literally just said it. You definitely did. Hey, man, eat big, sleep big, train big. Hey.

You know, I would say weight is relative, especially when you look at the NFL. It's when you feel – I'll give you guys a prime example. I'm in the NFL playing special teams. Hey, Schlage, you're 250 pounds. You're fat as hell because you eat an entire bag of Oreos when you play Tiger Woods golf. You know what? If you want to make a roster, how about you be 235,

and I'm playing space and one for days. All right, that's good. Guess what what that's your weight you know hey i i have a bad knee i gotta bend okay guess what you don't need to be 260 maybe it's 250 is your number right so it's all relative to the guy being to where he can perform at his max capacity that's really the number but you know as you guys know this is a violent game so to be able to handle the hits in a 17 game season now yeah you're gonna have to put on a little more weight than you had in college but what can you handle and still be able to do what makes them so special yeah i was like andrew andrew had to like kind of had a fine balance there there was a couple times

where andrew came back and he looked i mean mean, it was unbelievable. Yeah, he was jacked. Yeah. Was he bigger than you? Oh, yeah. Was he lifting more than you, you think, Andrew? No. Hey, people were saying he was potentially lifting more. But then there were some times where he was a little bit smaller,

and I wonder how the body reacted. I mean, that's a tough game. Good luck out there, Papa Schlags. We appreciate you so much. You're the best, dude. I appreciate you guys, man. Thanks for having me on. Hey. Good luck out there, Papa Schlaggs. We appreciate you so much. You're the best, dude. I appreciate you guys, man. Thanks for having me on. Hey, good luck out there.

Make sure everybody dominates this year down there for Duval. It seems like you guys are building something very special, and that is a very real thing. I don't think that would have been said about Jacksonville a lot in the past. I mean, there was that year where Blake, yeah, where he goes, and then the defense was unbelievable, and then that whole thing got torn down. It was just like it really has a special feel from outside.

I assume you guys feel it the same way inside. It's a cool thing to be a part of, Schlegs. Yeah, absolutely, and I'm humbled to be a part of it. So we're just going to keep it rolling, baby. Go Jags. Do more. Whoa. Thank you, Anthony Schleg.

I'll tell you again. Yeah, Schleg. All right. All right, that's the show. Once again, we appreciate the hell out of all you guys for listening. We couldn't do any of this without you. Hashtag end of pod squad. Keep sending in your pictures of where you're listening to the podcast.

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and you are listening to the Pat McAfee Show 2.0. Pat's on his way over to SmackDown right now. We still got a great show from today. Darius Butler joins us live from the FanDuel Beach House down in Tampa. A.J. Hawk, obviously, and new strength and conditioning coach for the Jacksonville Jaguars, Anthony Schlegel, joins the program as well for a great conversation.

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