The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 430 - Julio Jones Is A Tennessee Titan, Logan Paul v. Floyd Mayweather Reaction, Ian Rapoport, Darius Butler, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: June 7, 2021

On today's show, Pat and the boys react to the news that Julio Jones is now a Tennessee Titan after they sent a 2nd and 4th round pick to the Falcons, who was ultimately involved in trade talks with t...he Falcons, the Floyd Mayweather vs. Logan Paul fight, how Ocho Cinco looked in the ring, and the USA soccer team finally having THEE guy. Joining the program to break down everything about the Julio Jones trade is NFL Network Insider, Ian Rapoport. Pat and Ian also chat about the Aaron Rodgers situation, if the Colts were ever in on Julio Jones, and everything else going on in the NFL (15:33-34:29). Also joining Pat and AJ Hawk is 9 year NFL veteran, host of the Man-To-Man podcast, friend of the program, Darius Butler to chat about what Julio Jones does for the Titans, his thoughts on the Mayweather/Paul fight, and what he thought about Chad Johnson's performance (42:22-1:01:51). Later, Pat and AJ chat about everything else going on in the sports world, Jon Rahm having to withdraw from the Memorial Tournament due to a positive covid test after having a 6 shot lead, the Julio Jones trade and why so few teams were in on it, and much more (1:01:53-1:51:27). Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow and listen every day on Mad Dog Radio, Sirius XM Channel 82. We appreciate you all for listening, come and laugh with us, cheers.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello, Monday, June 7th, a lot to talk about. It's a beautiful day. If you enjoy the show by the end of it, please be a friend, tell the friend, if not, just act like it never happened. Ty, let's get to it. Fresh off a massive sports weekend. How are you doing? Hope you are fantastic. Hope you had a great weekend. A lot of things happened, okay? A lot of things happened okay a lot of things that we can talk about how you know uncle covid came into the sports world one last time and said no no to you john rom let's remember that this all started at a utah jazz game if you go back in time whenever we were introduced to what the sports world could potentially look like with old coronavirus in town the pa announcer for the utah jazz goes oh everybody needs to uh get the fuck out of the building and everybody what do not panic but uh everybody get the fuck
Starting point is 00:00:54 out of here as fast as you possibly can we're all gonna die do not panic there was yelling there was everything like that it was like hello covid in america then march madness you know everything happened that had fallen suit i think we just saw now there are going to be people that are going to be mad at me but i think we just got to witness here a couple days ago the uh you know the like curtain call swan song the swan song the uh whenever you come out after the concert's over. The encore. I think we just saw the encore presentation of COVID taking John Rahm's non-vaccinated ass straight out of a couple million dollars he was supposed to win.
Starting point is 00:01:36 Six-shot lead this guy had. Six-shot lead he had to win a couple million dollars over in Ohio playing a game he loves golf. In a world in which we all thought we beat COVID, the cicadas were there. They were loud. These cicadas, sons of bitches, by the way, we will talk about them at some point. I understand there's probably
Starting point is 00:01:53 insect people that love insects and bugs. These cicadas, the catas, okay, these might be the worst thing ever created on Earth. Gotta go. 17 years these sons of bitches were in the ground. They come out, they start yelling loud at everybody.
Starting point is 00:02:10 I guess they duplicate, then duplicate, then duplicate. So the yelling, the crowd is like a snowball. It only gets louder and louder and louder
Starting point is 00:02:18 and louder and then I guess a lot of them die. I see them all over my fucking yard. I hear them all day doing whatever they're doing. I guess they're just gonna go back down in the ground for 17 years and come back that's right i mean pretty good rib i guess good gimmick but we need to potentially think about
Starting point is 00:02:31 flamethrowers all of them within the next 17 years saw them down right into the ground you know what i mean now probably not great for uh you know uh global warming and everything if we're all just taking uh you know flamethrowers to the ground. But they're only in certain areas. We know where they are. My house? Big. Nick's house? Huge. Everywhere. I believe most of Indiana now, since they've been
Starting point is 00:02:54 fucking like rabbits, have kind of got taken over. There's a couple OG spots they will go to. Also, this Memorial Golf Tournament. They were loud over there. So we need to go into the dirt over there, knock them out. But with all that being said, the cicadas, there was crowds there. Oh, yeah, big time. Big crowds there.
Starting point is 00:03:11 There's been crowds. There's been crowds all over the place. And we'll talk about, you know, last night, obviously, there was a crowd there. There's been crowds in everything. WWE, July 16th in Houston, Friday Night SmackDown, by the way. I think it sold out. John Rahm, though. hey you remember that uh that thing we're worried about there for a long time oh yeah don't really think about it anymore you got it you're fucking out of here oh man what I literally just walked off the green you gotta tell me this right now yeah right yeah you're
Starting point is 00:03:44 fucking out of here pal Yeah you lose Yeah you know the couple million dollars You probably already spent That you You don't get it Go home See ya
Starting point is 00:03:52 See ya I'm gonna start crying Yeah do it Fucking cry right now You should I'm on TV though Aren't we on TV right now Yeah cry right now
Starting point is 00:03:59 Do it This is what COVID did to you Remember that Get the fuck out of here John Rahm has come out and said He understands And him and his He's just happy Him and his family Are safe Hey John you're not Actually it did to you. Remember that. Get the fuck out of here. John Rahm has come out and said he understands. He's just happy him and his family are safe.
Starting point is 00:04:08 Hey, John, you're not, actually. Hey, that's what we're saying. That's what they're saying. By the way, I don't think you're supposed to be around your family right now, John. You're supposed to go into a COVID cave. I mean, it is insane that there is a vaccine available for people and we're still potentially kicking somebody out of a tournament for
Starting point is 00:04:23 getting it, but I guess it's the way the protocols are. We're in a time that it doesn't make any sense. But I'd assume, hey, John, we hope you survive this. Good luck, John. Good round, too. Hey, great tournament. You were fucking hitting the hell out of the ball. There was people in the office, Tony Diggs to be specific,
Starting point is 00:04:41 that was asking, does COVID make you better at golf? Because remember, there were some people throughout this COVID thing, they would get COVID and then something great would happen to them afterwards. It's like, okay, so does COVID mean you get in shape? Good luck. And in this particular case, I don't want people to fall into the trap of just recency bias here. COVID does not mean you're going to win a golf tournament. No. And I did look into it because I got $20 million on the line. Right. I just thought to myself, well, you saw how Rahm's played with COVID.
Starting point is 00:05:08 I've heard of no other PGA guys that have played with COVID. I know they weren't leading the goddamn tournament if they were. Six strokes? Does COVID make you better at golf? I thought about it. I will not use that to get to $20 million from A.J. Hawk for our Champions Tour Top 50 bet. But I am happy to hear that john rom understands the severity of
Starting point is 00:05:25 this and uh is going to lock it down for the next 14 to 17 days won't make eye contact with anybody because remember that is how covid can and he will also not be around his family so we hope you survive though john you get some uh swings in this weekend speaking of that 20 mil i did i mean at boston connor thanks for asking ty sch, thanks for, you know, being a part of this massive COVID conversation. I know you've been here since the inception of the COVID conversation. Oh, yeah. You bet. As we all have. I did get some swings. You know,
Starting point is 00:05:54 when you're watching golf, it's hard not to do golf. Get the itch. You know what I mean? You're watching Colin Morikawa, by the way. He benefited, obviously, from the John Rahm falling, but boy. Just in extra holes, huh? I know. You want the extra holes.
Starting point is 00:06:09 Mm-hmm. It's true. And he loses it to an old buddy there that, of course, we have heard of in the past. Good for him. Good for Cantlay. Big, big congrats to Cantlay. You know, can't do it, Morikawa, but Cantlay can get a win out there. We could talk about that all day because COVID came in and took probably its last sports victim when it comes to not death,
Starting point is 00:06:31 but just events, you know what I mean? And we're pulling for it, and we are not celebrating it. We did not. I'm sorry. We did not celebrate too early that COVID was over. No. No, we did celebrate before a guy got banned from a tournament for COVID, so did we all potentially celebrate too early?
Starting point is 00:06:47 Whatever. It feels like now that we got that out of the way, we did beat COVID. We did. We did. We did. So, we can talk about that all day. And that's why I wanted to lead off with this because, like, hey, that's a big deal. Like, I think we just saw the last real sports elbow from COVID, you know, to Jon Rahm.
Starting point is 00:07:05 It was like from Utah to Ohio. Yeah, man. And all the sporting events in between. I mean, it feels like we saw the last dance of COVID there. And, hey, fucking don't let the door hit you on the ass on the way out. See you later. All right. Come on.
Starting point is 00:07:20 Keep it moving there. Could talk about that. That's huge. Yeah. Could talk about last night. I mean, massive sporting event. Yeah. Two things last night.
Starting point is 00:07:29 Three things that were massive last night. If you count the NHL playoffs that are dead. But if you do talk about that, the Bruins still alive. Congratulations. Golden Knights are maybe back. That's happening. The United States wins this tournament that just got started this year. Whatever.
Starting point is 00:07:43 We beat the shit out of Mexico. Hell yeah! Hey, listen. I didn got started this year, whatever. We beat the shit out of Mexico. Hell yeah! Hey, listen. I didn't know this thing was happening. I didn't know the United States was playing Mexico in the championship of the CONCACAF Nations Final or whatever. It's like, okay, here we go. All right, so we're not invited to the Euros. We're not allowed in the Champions League over there.
Starting point is 00:07:59 But we're allowed to play in CONCACAF, which is the Confederate Confederacy of Canada. North America. What's that? The Confederacy of North America. It's something. I know it's the association. It's Canada. It's us. I believe it's the entire
Starting point is 00:08:19 Central America. And I think also potential... I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. But I do know we play other countries that are in our hemisphere. Not because there's some that are below.
Starting point is 00:08:33 Left of Europe. Okay. There you go. North of. Argentina. I think so. That's who we were playing against. And we fucking made it to the championship, dude.
Starting point is 00:08:42 Yeah, we did. But against Mexico, I did not know this was happening. I was awaiting the Logan Paul Floyd Mayweather fight like the rest of the world. I had seen Ocho get down in there. By the way, mad respect. That's off. That's off. That's off.
Starting point is 00:08:56 Hey, man. He represented the NFL community out there. Oh, yeah. You know, there's been some basketball players that have gone out there and fought. Didn't do great. Of course. There were some other people. And in this particular night, I mean, Mitt pitched a photo.
Starting point is 00:09:09 Doing him dirty there. Come on, Mitt. I didn't know this was going to be the photo. Literally did not see this graphic before we went on air. This kind of fucked up, actually. Come on, Mitt. Mitt's like, oh, I was there for money bag. Yo, dude.
Starting point is 00:09:19 Anyways, Ocho, this is bullshit, actually. I do not like that that was up there and chosen by Mitt. Ocho put on a hell of a performance. And I don't know what anybody expected out of him. He was quick on his feet. Always has been. Sweet feet. I mean, yeah, sweet feet is going to get in there.
Starting point is 00:09:36 If you watch Floyd fight, by the way, Floyd is very, because, you know, a lot of those boxers, you hear them talk, and I'm just saying this because I'm in the virtual reality Oculus world. You know, you only have to miss, you only have to duck like a punch, like by like an eighth of an inch or whatever, because it saves you time or whatever. I like the Floyd is like, no, no, no, no. This big, look how big those fucking arms are. He was doing like a full jump up like you would if you were to allay a bull at some points. Ocho was incredible, though. Landed some punches.
Starting point is 00:10:04 I don't know if the landing spot was there or whatever. I'd be dead tired half a round in, four rounds, perform well, flex, got knocked on his ass, kind of had a learning lesson. It looked like he got punched in the neck, too, right in the jugular. Well, yeah, I think it was on the side, though, too. I'm not sure. He popped up, though. I was nervous that he might go down for a little bit. was he was up right away like hey no no let's keep
Starting point is 00:10:28 this going yeah ocho is a showman too and he's also in football i think he has potentially had those moments where you get knocked down and it's like oh shit there's a lot of people watching he actually had one with ray lewis it's kind of on the thing where you get up immediately uh i was super impressed with ocho and just getting in there as insane Eye oculus box getting punched in the real face Much different what were you going to say It was also like I don't know if it was as bad During his fight as it was later in the night But during that open stadium like they had to keep
Starting point is 00:10:54 Wiping down the ring like the footing was Slick and stuff like I can't imagine How hard it would be to deal with that on top Of everything else too Hey Miami you know Party in the city where the heat is on. I don't need to make it on. Welcome to Miami.
Starting point is 00:11:09 It is probably rainy. Yeah. It's like something, you know, we all loved the thought of Miami going down. I said it was going to be hot. I said, I'm not going. I would love to go. I'd love to be able to go.
Starting point is 00:11:21 Sounds like a massive event. I'm a sweater though. Okay, I'm not going to Miami in the middle of June. I'm just not going to do it. Can't do it. Had to play down there. Sat next to the fan, face towards it, so I was facing towards the crowd the entire time down there.
Starting point is 00:11:32 It's hot. Did not think about the rain, but it does rain on a regular basis. And it doesn't, it's not necessarily forever, but it's definitely going to rain almost because of how hot and humid it is. I think they still put on a hell of a show, but while I was waiting for Floyd and Logan, I heard about the United States and New Mexico over there. I go over there, turn on a game, I see the kickoff.
Starting point is 00:11:52 I didn't see Clint Dempsey, but I saw Clint Dempsey debuted on the talking thing. The pre-show, yeah. The pre-show. Wild pre-show. Wild pre-show. Hey, the soccer pre-shows are fucking doing it now. I was a part of a WWE kickoff pre-show Wild pre-show Hey the soccer pre-shows Are fucking doing it now I was a part of a
Starting point is 00:12:06 WWE kickoff pre-show With NXT Numerous times That was kind of My introduction We've all seen The kickoff shows For football
Starting point is 00:12:13 And football is pretty Pretty physical sport You know what I mean I don't think anybody's Ever seen a kickoff show Like the soccer one Last night The host was told
Starting point is 00:12:23 That another person On the panel listen to this listen to this passion would choke her if she said that this was a home game for america okay and i was like hey listen that's a lot of passion pal don't know how that slips out of your mouth ever especially on tv but i only saw the clip i didn't see it live but clint dempsey uh legendary soccer player he just kind of disappeared for a couple years he was on it didn't see any of that okay didn't get you saw it on the internet a couple years. He was on it. Didn't see any of that. Okay, didn't get to see it. Saw it on the internet.
Starting point is 00:12:47 A lot of people saw it on the internet. A lot of people are going to continue to see that. Insane. She handled that, by the way, in an incredible fashion. I don't know. I saw a little bit of it. I didn't see the whole thing. But I watched the kickoff a minute and 11 seconds into that thing. We're passing the ball to Mexico and giving up a goal.
Starting point is 00:13:01 Okay? We're down 1-0 in this thing. Everybody's dancing on our face. And two, I mean, the point the guy was trying to make, not Howie or whatever he was thinking, Passing the ball to Mexico and giving up a goal. We're down 1-0 in this thing. Everybody's dancing in our face. The point the guy was trying to make, not Howie or whatever he was thinking, it was very pro-Mexico. Not a home game. It was not a home game at all.
Starting point is 00:13:16 I actually put out a tweet. I was like, is this our good soccer team? Because we've had two teams now at this point at the men's level. We've had the team that's good that played last night and then we had the team that wouldn't qualify us for the Olympics or World Cup playing at the same time because a lot of our good guys are over in Europe and can't make all the games. So whenever I think that Reina scored and then Pulisic
Starting point is 00:13:36 comes in and then I don't know who he is but Ethan Horvath getting that save on that last PK! 120th minute! Put him in the pipes all the time. We're winning the World Cup. Yeah. We got the win.
Starting point is 00:13:48 Yeah. So that was happening. That was a nice little treat. I thought we were just going to watch Logan and Floyd battle it out on a Sunday night. I didn't expect a Sunday night. Normally, it's WWE nights. Here we got boxing. We'll talk more about that.
Starting point is 00:14:02 I was, you know, it was a show. Yeah. Floyd actually said, you know, I retired from boxing. I didn't retire from entertainment, though. So if I want to make a quick $30 million on my shorts, my mask, and my hat, I'm going to do that. I'm going to do it. Absolutely loved it. I enjoyed it.
Starting point is 00:14:18 I watched it, as did many people. But that's not the big story of the day. No, no, no. I talked for 17 minutes there about basically everything else to let you know that while I was speaking about all that, there was only one thing that just kept popping into my mind. And that's Julio Jones wearing a Tennessee Titans jersey. Julio Jones was traded yesterday from the Atlanta Falcons to the Tennessee Titans alongside a sixth-round pick. Yeah. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:14:50 Yeah. Yeah. Right? Yeah. Yeah. A sixth-round pick is coming back, and he's giving – Tennessee Titans are giving up a second and a future fourth, as in the next year.
Starting point is 00:15:01 And Julio Jones and a sixth-round pick is in the conversation. I said that every team was going to hear what was inevitably going to be traded for Julio Jones, and their fans are going to go, how the fuck did we not get Julio Jones? Especially if you're a team that has a lot of money left, especially if you're a team that's very aggressive, especially if you're a team that's trying to court a quarterback potentially it seems like the market from what we're hearing since this wasn't that big of a market for julio jones we'll talk to a guy right now who broke the news ladies and gentlemen ian rappaport yeah so now the fallout begins of this whole trade you know what what I mean? A second and a future fourth as in the year following.
Starting point is 00:15:47 And then what, a sixth round in Julio Jones or something like that. I don't forget how the whole thing went in there. It was originally reported, not by you, but it was a second and a fifth and something like that. But how did we get to a second and a future fourth being the worth? And how many people were in this and how long did you know it was going to be the titans uh okay so i had a sense probably last week that it was going to be the titans even though they hadn't really spoken in a while as far as i could tell that was the only real second rounder that they had on the table right like it was i know
Starting point is 00:16:21 everyone talked about like are they going to get a one like they didn't get close to a one they got a two which is a real firm two like it's not a conditional anything that's an actual second rounder and i didn't get the sense that they got that from anywhere else so i thought it was going to be the titans i knew was going to be the titans probably about 9 15 sunday morning then you just want to you know you like to wait until these deals are actually done before it gets reported. But that's what I knew was going to be the Titans. And, you know, it makes sense. So it was like, at that point, it was going to be
Starting point is 00:16:54 a two and then a something else. It was going to be a two and a pick swap or maybe a five or maybe a six. And so they ended up swapping some late round pictures to get a little more value. I thought it was a pretty nice deal by the Falcons.
Starting point is 00:17:10 Like they had a guy who played half the season last year. Is that Aaron news? It is. Hold on. It is not Aaron. Oh, okay. Tell him we said,
Starting point is 00:17:22 what's up? Tell him I was telling him. I'm waiting for him to text me. He hasn't texted me yet. Okay. I understand. Okay. Tell him what's up. Tell Miles Teller to take it easy. I'm waiting for him to text me. He hasn't texted me yet. Okay, I understand. Okay, so let's get back to the Julio news. We'll get to the Aaron news. And also, I think a guy who just filed a $15 million grievance to the NFL
Starting point is 00:17:38 just got picked up by the Ravens, I guess. So that's definitely news that we'll get to. And Juwan James. That was actually the text, what his contract is going to be. But you ask me, I'll tell you. All right, what's the contract? What's the contract? Do you want to hear it?
Starting point is 00:17:50 Yeah, what's the contract? So it's a two-year deal. Basically, he's not going to play this year, obviously. So he gets a $500,000 signing bonus this year, so some pocket change this year, a roster bonus of $500,000 next year, and a base salary of $2.5 million. So it's essentially a two-year, $3.5 million contract with a chance to make a little bit more with very hard-to-reach incentives.
Starting point is 00:18:17 So it's actually a pretty smart deal for the Ravens. So two years, $3.5 million. And Juwan James is going to give $15 million from the Broncos in a collusion thing. So that's going to be $18.5 million. And Juwan James is going to get $15 million from the Broncos in a collusion thing. So that's going to be $18.5 million. Congrats to Juwan James. Howdy, boy. How's it going, Juwan?
Starting point is 00:18:30 How's it going? Those grievances, by the way, do not – those are not quick, and they do not end quickly or easily, especially with $15 million and how much that's going to have to go in there. But congrats to Juwan getting on another team and the Ravens. Now let's get back to Julio Jones. Ian, this, why? Why does this happen?
Starting point is 00:18:49 Why is the thought of we did the math, okay, Ian? I did the math. We went through it. Yourself? Yes, me, okay? You're going to love this. So in the 1980s, there was seven guys drafted in the second round that would go on to make the Hall of Fame. Okay, so I don't know.
Starting point is 00:19:11 I didn't do the math well enough, but let's just say there's 32 teams. I'm not sure if there is. You have to change it a little bit, but it's about a 2% chance you're going to land on a Hall of Famer in the NFL draft in the second round. Then the fourth round, fucking forget it. Okay, so why is there and why does there seem to be, now there's teams that have hit on second rounders. For instance, Chris Ballard has hit on second rounders. I get it.
Starting point is 00:19:32 But you're hoping a Julio Jones is available. Like, that's what you're hoping your person turns into. With how salary caps and contracts are manipulated nowadays, why wasn't the market as big, you think, for Julio Jones? And how did this happen all right great questions that's all anyone wants to know is the value and i think you're right i think we all had a sense it was going to be the titans like that was the leader from early on and i i don't think anybody pushed them i think that was pretty obvious it was really just the value
Starting point is 00:20:00 like were they going to get close to a one and then when it turned out that it's a second rounder plus everybody lost their minds here are the reasons here are the arguments is why a second rounder makes sense he is 32 he played half the season last year he's still julio jones but how long is he going to be julio jones for and how available is he going to be those are after a rough season like last season those are rough questions. The other thing is, um, $15 million guaranteed this year,
Starting point is 00:20:31 $2 million guaranteed next year. Nobody has any money and even worse, they don't have any cap. So like, I would say there were probably, as far as I could tell five teams that were actually kind of sort of in it. And most of the other teams were just not even, it couldn't happen because they didn't have the space or they weren't good enough. So it was such a small market just because it has to be a really good team that he would want to go to
Starting point is 00:20:55 that had enough cap space and were willing to offer at least a two. Like I thought the price was pretty good. I never thought a one was thought one was possible ian i know what you thought and what you do okay but the the thought of 32 years old okay let's say he's let's on the conservative side let's say he's got two years left okay we get two years of julio jones now let's go ahead and have a good time you know he's played in 135 of 160 games in his 10 year career okay last year played nine games still dominated in those games but they were also Now let's go ahead and have a good time. He's played in 135 of 160 games in his 10-year career. Last year played nine games, still dominated in those games, but they were also in the middle of an entire turnover of a franchise. So I would wonder if they were potentially saying to him,
Starting point is 00:21:35 if you're not 100, why are we even? If you're not doing this, why are we even? And now that's being used against him. Is it because the fantasy people, he's always on the injury report, like Tom Brady is, by the way, like somebody, like many other people. And he is always like never somebody that they can put in because they don't know how he's going to play. He has higher, more yards per game in the first 10 years than fucking Jerry Rice. And he's number two in this whole.
Starting point is 00:22:01 Where is that narrative come from? That he doesn't play and that he gets hurt and that he's old and he can't perform still like where'd that come from i don't know because 771 yards in nine games if he played half like everybody's saying okay there's another 14 1500 yard season like what do we even how is this even a thing you know right and this is if you're a member of the tennessee titans or you're in the titans front office or you're a titans fan like this is your argument like okay so last year he had hamstring things and like the end of the year, you know, I don't know if he could have played or not. I guess in the end it didn't, it made sense for him not to play. But, you know, how available was he is definitely a question. When he played, he's awesome. So if you're the Titans, you're like, I'm going to get that guy who's been available and he's going to be awesome because every time he's actually played, he's awesome so if you're the titans you're like i'm gonna get that guy who's been available and he's gonna be awesome because every time he's actually played he's been awesome but you don't know and so like let's let's talk about a second rounder like you don't know if that guy is going to be a hall of famer well aj brown was a second rounder right and he's awesome
Starting point is 00:22:59 also on the titans and cheap and that's what you kind of hope you get. And that basically is the, the potential of getting another AJ Brown is basically what the Titans gave up. And I think for a lot of teams, they'd rather have the potential than maybe one or two years of someone old and expensive, even though they are awesome. But Julio is the,
Starting point is 00:23:21 I need you to run this back to the people that you talk to it because at this point, the only GMs I really talk to, nobody really. Chris Ballard. Ballard doesn't answer your calls anymore? Not anymore. I don't think so. I don't know. Maybe. I sent him a text this morning.
Starting point is 00:23:37 I'm going to have to. I mean, I have to do it. Like, I'm going to have to do it. Got it. And he said, I can take it. Don't worry about it. Which I respect. Thank you, Chris.
Starting point is 00:23:44 I do respect that out of Chris. But it's me as a GM thinking about, like people in the division, old buddy down there drafted Mario Williams or Mario Williams. Charlie, you worked at... Charlie Casserly drafted Mario
Starting point is 00:24:00 Williams, right? To the Houston Texans over Reggie Bush. Do you remember this? He gets fired for that move, by the way Texans over Reggie Bush. Do you remember this? Okay, so he drafted, he gets fired for that move by the way. He goes on NFL Network, he becomes like expert genius GM on the NFL Network. This is how you guys sell him.
Starting point is 00:24:15 I've gotten a chance to chat with him. I think he's a very intelligent guy, knows football well. He said, everybody wanted Reggie Bush, he has that accent, I can't do it. He said, but we're trying to beat Peyton Manning. Like, I'm trying to beat Peyton Manning in here. Like, I'm trying to beat the Indianapolis Colts. If you want to beat, okay, the AFC and NFC champions right now,
Starting point is 00:24:35 you've got to just get depth. Like, you have to get deep. You have to keep up with the teams that are able to take an injury at wide receiver or running back or tight end and still just continue to go because injuries used to be the thing that kill every team. It's like, hey, if we get lucky and don't get hurt at key positions, the Buccaneers loaded up at all the key positions. If they get an injury, they're cool. The Chiefs loaded up at every single position.
Starting point is 00:24:58 It's like the Titans right now, good fucking move, and they loaded up on the defense this offseason. It's like I feel like they get it more than everybody else. Am I wrong, Ian? Or is there just going to be two very different ideas on how you build teams nowadays? No, I mean, I would say you're not wrong at all. And if you're the Titans, there is a reason. You know, this trade is mutually beneficial, right?
Starting point is 00:25:18 That's why these trades happen, because both benefit. If you're the Falcons, like, I'm not going to say they're rebuilding, but it is clearly some sort of a franchise reset. Everyone thought they chose Kyle Pitts to play with Julio. No, they chose him to replace Julio. They are remaking themselves. Same quarterback.
Starting point is 00:25:36 Going to have to remake themselves again, what, two years? Two or one, right? I don't know. We'll see what happens with Matt Ryan this year. He's 30, I don't know. We'll see what happens with Matt Ryan this year. He's 37. Anyway, we'll see. But for the Falcons now, that's a real question. When do they actually hit the rebuild?
Starting point is 00:25:54 But if you're the Titans, you sort of don't care, right? Because you are ready to win now. You have a quarterback in his prime kind of getting to that point. You've got a running back who's awesome, but a lot of carries. This is now the time to win. So that's why for the Titans it makes sense. If the Tennessee Titans get two years out of
Starting point is 00:26:15 Julio Jones and he is awesome, this will be a fantastic trade for them. I don't care what else happens. I agree. I don't like that I have to face them as a fan. And I don't care what else happens. Okay. I agree. I don't like that I have to face them as a fan. And I don't like that I went into their town and told them they stink, basically, in front of all of them. And now. I remember that.
Starting point is 00:26:33 Yeah, they do, too. They do, too. I got a lot of tweets from people yesterday. How do you feel now, Mr. Draft Speech Guy? You know, I'm like, well. Oh, don't check your mentions. No, you know, I'm actually not like hated by everybody. I mean, there are some positive. You got to get through that. There's a listen. Here we go. This is a good little moment between you and me. And I'd
Starting point is 00:26:55 assume that you get a lot of hate from people. You got to get through that. Hey, there's going to be hate. You got to get to the people that want to interact with you, learn a little bit about you, become your you know, I mean, It's all about building a community over there, Ian. It's not just, hey, I've got sources and no friends. It's like, hey, there's people out there that are pulling for the rap sheet. There's people that are like, hey, we want rap sheet and friends back. It's nice to say hello to them every once in a while. You've got to see them to say hello.
Starting point is 00:27:19 In all seriousness, you know my problem with that? I can't respond because people have alerts on now for me as they do for other people in my job and if i do an at message to someone else all i get are people like dude this is not why i have alerts on so i basically can't respond to almost anyone because everyone loses their mind because it's not like you know why why are you adding someone and not trading aaron rogers to green bay i'm a big i'm a two uh den Green Bay? I'm a big – Or to Denver, I mean. I'm a big, like, hey, fuck you type guy. Like if somebody said that to me.
Starting point is 00:27:49 But that is 100% real. That would be very disrespectful to all of Twitter and all of your followers that do have notifications if you were just like, hey, what's going on, guys? That would be very disrespectful. So I have a lot of respect for that. I wish you had maybe like a – Maybe it's a rap sheet and friends. Oh, there you go. We need a leisure rap sheet out there.
Starting point is 00:28:11 Go ahead, Ty. Ian, speaking of Aaron Rodgers, a lot of people are making a big deal about the $93,000 he'll forfeit if he doesn't show up on Tuesday. Have you heard anything? Are the Packers actually expecting him to show up? Because there's no way, right? I mean, first of all i want to say like i don't know i don't know if he's going to show up or not whoa i don't i don't know for sure oh those self-aware i would be i would be surprised uh just my opinion not reporting my opinion i haven't talked to anyone
Starting point is 00:28:40 who thinks he's going to show up um it would make not a lot of sense to show up, honestly. If he's this upset with the organization and they're still trying to work through it contractually and get to some sort of happy medium, showing up just kind of, I don't know, it creates another story that doesn't need to be there. Like, yes, he'll pay the $90,000 in fines. If they do a contract extension, it'll probably be like,
Starting point is 00:29:04 this contract plus an extra ninety three thousand dollars just for your pocket so i don't know if he's going to show up but it would it would it would be a twist i did not see coming i'll say that okay let's let's talk about the peter king statement that and i don't know if he was i think he was potentially just like throwing it out there I'm not 100% sure football morning in America he said that there's a way and I don't know once again if this is in for this is like you with pundit or insider I'm I don't I don't remember how I wondered the same thing honestly go ahead whenever he said like there's a way that they can
Starting point is 00:29:40 talk and be like hey we'll trade you after this year let's just go ahead and have one more year here let's have a spite year let's go ahead and do what bill and tom did basically allegedly and if you want to hate me the hiatus the entire time cool if we want to hate you cool if we want to kind of just have this year where we understand this is the last year and then we'll trade you afterwards that sounds like a very reasonable thing but is are we way past that because that would have to take like because that would have to take like yeah that would have to take like you know there's a lot of trust in that there's a lot of conversation in that there's a lot of you know what i mean that that's a huge step i think to say that that could potentially happen i think we all wish it would though maybe i mean it's i don't know where
Starting point is 00:30:21 that came from i thought about it this morning and i was like, I guess it sort of kind of could make sense. Here's the problem though. What if he gets injured? I mean, I hate to say this. I don't want to speak so much. But that's franchise year stuff. That's like franchise tag conversation too, right? Right.
Starting point is 00:30:36 Well. If he gets injured, they're kind of fucked, both sides. Yeah. That's what you're saying. Yeah. I'm like, how do you, you know, you agree to trade him and then he, I'm not going to, I don like, how do you, you know, you agree to trade him and then he, I'm not going to, I don't want to talk this into the universe,
Starting point is 00:30:50 but like that would kind of ruin any deal. Hey, don't check your mentions, dude. That's why you can't check your mentions. That's what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying? Don't check the mentions. So it was an interesting compromise. I just don't know that it's realistic. Yeah, Connor.
Starting point is 00:31:02 Yeah, Rapshied. Albert Breer wrote in Monday Morning Quarterback that there was a first-round pick swap offer to Tennessee. Do you know which team did that and when that team backed out? I don't know which team. I do know – I had kind of heard the same thing in a little bit of a different language, so I don't doubt it. I just don't know the team. I had thought, just the same thing in a little bit of a different language so I don't doubt it I just don't know the team I had thought just my own personal thought that the Rams uh would offer
Starting point is 00:31:31 their 2024 one as a way of giving them a first rounder it doesn't sound like that actually happened I know it was discussed like at least the two sides got together and said like what if we did this but I don't get the sense the Rams brought it up, and I don't get the sense they actually offered it. So that was kind of – so when I found out that that didn't happen, then I was like, okay, if they can't get a 2024 one, then there's no way they're getting a one at all. And when I heard they got a two, I'm like, they should take it.
Starting point is 00:32:04 Were the Colts ever in? Did Chris even snoop around? I did not hear their name at all. I would just text them to see. Sorry, Vinny. This is like a one of ten. Can you sign it for you? No, I mean, pretty much.
Starting point is 00:32:28 I mean, I don't think there's. He made it. Yeah, I think he did. It's one of these things, dude. And I take care of it so much, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, no big deal, dude. You got any of these? No, you got sources, though.
Starting point is 00:32:38 All right. All I got, you know what I got? I get footballs that Wilson sends me that I put in my backdrop right there so I probably have like in my house 10 like authentic regular NFL footballs very what are they doing just trying to keep you on the good side to Wilson football people are they like no you just gotta you just gotta make sure it looks nice in the old I don't know if you can see it back there in the old backdrops is that a punt passing kick award there that wooden one I got one that looks like that uh no that's another one where they just send me and they're like, here's a nice football statue thing.
Starting point is 00:33:09 And I'm like, that would look awesome. So I'll just throw it back there. Oh, so they're like, hey, Ian, here's something that could potentially look like an award to put behind you. Yeah, I think I have an award. No, no, no. Can't see it. This is legit.
Starting point is 00:33:22 I'm not joking. No. Hold on. Can't see it. This is legit. I'm not joking. No. So first place, the College Football Writers Association of America,
Starting point is 00:33:32 first place game story when I covered Alabama, and I think this was from 2006. Let's go! Wow, man. I was really happy about that. What'd you say? These guys are good. Is that what you said? No, it was when they were, it was Shula.
Starting point is 00:33:46 It was the first year, or it was the last year of Shula. So they were, a kicker by the name of Lee Tiffin missed four kicks and cost them the game. And I wrote it up in a masterpiece. I mean, the rest of his teammates could have lifted him up. But, I mean, four misses is tough to overcome. Okay. Ian, thank you so much, man. I assume you're going to be busy today.
Starting point is 00:34:05 Are we going to have any more news come out today, or do you think this is about it? It might have a little bit more. Who? What? Where? I don't know when the Rodgers stuff is going to come out. My guess is it comes out tomorrow when he just doesn't show up or not,
Starting point is 00:34:19 but we'll see. I'll keep hammering the phones. I'll see if I can give you something. Hey, hit the phones, dude, like the Wolf of Wall Street. We appreciate it. Ladies and keep hammering the phones. I'll see if I can give you something. Hey, hit the phones, dude, like the Wolf of Wall Street. We appreciate it. Ladies and gentlemen, Ian Rapoport. We have some big news for you. Yeah.
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Starting point is 00:36:12 you've already lost the campaign. You will lose that battle. You will come back into the world, and there will be an entire narrative that you did not know was even possible. And then you go, huh, I thought we were going to be friends. Turns out. Turns out i lost this game that happened once but it's probably it was probably the real uh it was probably the right outcome anyways with that whole thing with all those people as well a lot of people turned their
Starting point is 00:36:37 back on me though quickly i thought we were friends i thought we were fighting doing that can we get over me that's why it's good, though, so you can find out. See that? You got a bunch of frauds. A bunch of fugazis. Speaking of fugazis, Colts were never involved. Nope. Sound like the Patriots were never involved. Yeah, not really.
Starting point is 00:36:52 Just at the beginning. You sound like there was a lot of fake reports out there. There's no way the Packers were involved. Ever. Nope. They've got planes flying out to Malibu right now. Yeah, they're fucked. They don't know if they can fly to Atlanta.
Starting point is 00:37:03 They're fucked. What do you mean? Well, as this rolls on and continues to go further and further like I really can see him just not showing up and not playing this year like all these different stories like he's very dug in what would be an easy way to like show him that you are committed you want to win with him you go get Julio everyone said hey they can't do it with the cap we've seen that means nothing doesn't mean shit there are guys who do this who are very good at their jobs who can make stuff work so like it can be done you can make it work but you let that go i mean all the receivers are kind of going back now too like a lot of people were saying like oh maybe this is
Starting point is 00:37:38 in solidarity with rogers i don't think that's the case they're you know the mark murphy came out and said hey the fan base is split over this, like still kind of trying to win the favor of the fans. Oh, you think that was campaigning there like a breakup? A little bit. He was kind of hitting the phones. Yeah. He was kind of hitting the phones.
Starting point is 00:37:56 He was kind of hitting the phones because he made it seem like. They already did that, by the way, with the report of planes. Exactly. So we already knew all this stuff, and now it's just kind of like hey he's not here we just kind of want to remind people like hey we've done everything we can we're going to give him everything he wants but he he doesn't want to he doesn't want to come back so like as we get closer to like these deadlines that don't mean shit and don't exist anyway i really can see him just not playing this year he's not just sitting out that'd be insane when yeah what if
Starting point is 00:38:23 you get quoted by the way ty schmidt owner of the packers and member of the pat mcafee show says that he can see now at this point aaron's sitting out and saying i ain't doing it whoa people keep saying big money big money big money no whammies what is it six million or 6.8 million out of his pocket that he would have to write a check for yeah a lot of money right a lot of money okay that is a lot of money it's not future earnings though which they continue to lump in and julio jones contract by like 38 million is what people are saying no it's actually 17.3 million or something like that which you can move to a signing bonus and kick down the road three days anyways there's people that were tweeting me yesterday that teams couldn't afford his contract i let them know that they didn't know football
Starting point is 00:39:05 and they told me that i didn't know football really they were acting as if i was the stooge here because that might sound like a stooge statement just a year or two ago like no cap means nothing it means nothing it means absolutely nothing mike greenberg okay down in tampa who might be three foot eight yeah unless shregs is nine foot tall he might be a who might be three foot eight. Yeah. Unless Schrags is nine foot tall. Which he might be a bottom. Schrags might be. Schrags could be seven feet tall. We've been talking about this salary cap guru for months now.
Starting point is 00:39:32 We got a chance to get eyes on him for the first time. Schrags was either standing on top of a bench or maybe even a fence next to this guy. But he is able to just boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, move it around. Okay, Veach over in Kansas City, boom, boom, boom, move it around. Travis Kelsey did something for him. We actually told Travis Kelsey he was about to make some moves in his contract to open up some more space over there so they can bring in Kyle Long and everybody else that they're able to do.
Starting point is 00:39:57 The salary cap means nothing. Now, it might in a couple years if Kamish and all the other GMs that don't have a salary cap guru alongside of them say, we can't do this anymore. We're supposed to be a league that doesn't do what baseball does. We're supposed to, if they figure out how to crack down on it, maybe. But it feels like for the time being, none of those numbers mean a goddamn thing. There was a contract signed by Taysom Hill that was four years, $160 million, all years voidable. That's not a contract. No.
Starting point is 00:40:29 And that's what we're saying. There's no salary cap. Everything's bullshit. Everything's bullshit. Three to five years from now, too, who knows where the salary cap will be? It could be up at $250, $230. So even then, it doesn't really matter. Yeah, because we've got new platforms, new networks, new mediums getting into the NFL game.
Starting point is 00:40:46 Let's hope that continues to grow. Amazon's in the game. Why not Apple? Why not Netflix, by the way? Why not Google? Why not anybody? There's a lot of money, let alone all the sports gambling that's about to happen. I mean, there's a chance that there's going to be an ever-evolving amount of money to be spent in that cap i mean it all is going to be generated through you know new earning
Starting point is 00:41:10 opportunities for the nfl in which they have been the most successful league in the history of leagues for some time and they're about to hit they're not even close to what they're about to hit with gambling sports gambling becoming legalized and tech yeah blowing up right and there's an arms race right now which is why you know like we're in a pretty cool spot we're nowhere near the nfl like we are nowhere near the nfl but we're in a pretty cool cool spot for the exact same reasons tech platforms are being built they all want their own exclusive content they're going to do that with the NFL, I assume, as well as everything else that is getting bought up.
Starting point is 00:41:48 And then also the sports gambling. And that money is only growing and growing. It's only in like seven states or something like that. It'll be in 30, 40 within the next 10 years, five years. That money is what? You just simple math there. What's that, 5, 10x what that already is? I mean, there is so much money that's about to get flooded into rosters.
Starting point is 00:42:05 I don't want to say you kick a can down the road, but that's what it seems like all the teams that are winning currently are doing. We'll worry about that later. Now, if the person comes in and they're a complete bust, then you're kicking the can down the road for something that is never or never was. Julio Jones is not going to be a bust. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now Host of the Man to Man podcast Everything DB
Starting point is 00:42:27 Nine year NFL vet Played corner, nickel, and safety Basically understands the defense inside and out Just like AJ Hawk does Ladies and gentlemen, Darius Butler Yeah, D-But D-But D-But, we'll talk about the fight last night
Starting point is 00:42:41 Okay, congrats to both men making a lot of money And putting on a show Also, Ocho, I think fight last night. Okay, congrats to both men making a lot of money and putting on a show. Also, Ocho, I think, represented for all of us. Shout out to Ocho. But before we get to that, D-Butt, let's talk about this Julio situation. Him, Derrick Henry, A.J. Brown. What does that mean? And how and why do you think the market was dry for Julio Jones, D-Butt?
Starting point is 00:43:02 First and foremost, that's tough, man. That's tough coming into that game as a D.C. Obviously, you know, football for forever has been stop the run first. And I still think it's going to be that when you play the Titans, you've got to stop the run. But what do you do with that extra safety? Do you bring him down in the box to help against the run? Or do you keep him back to help against A.J. or Julio?
Starting point is 00:43:22 I mean, it's tough. We'll see. I still, I'll make Tannehill have to beat Still, I'll make Tannehill have to beat me. I'll make Tannehill have to beat me before Derrick Henry, even with those receiving weapons. And I heard Rapshie talking about it earlier. The reason why they were able to get him, because his injury history, obviously his age, and then that second-round pick,
Starting point is 00:43:39 that's a high pick to a lot of these GMs. You know, you look at even the Titans. I think Derrick Henry was the second rounder. AJ Brown was the second rounder. So people just don't want to give those up with a guy who they think may be on the telly in his career. If he's the missing piece that you think may get you to a Super Bowl
Starting point is 00:43:56 and make you a contender, I think you take a shot at him. But you've been saying it all along that he was going to go for a pick like this. I still thought he would go for a first. But shit, what the hell do we know? Nothing. D-Butt, hey, other than Julio's, like, size and his speed, what separates him, you think, from the rest of the league, really?
Starting point is 00:44:17 Man, I mean, those are two big things. I mean, there's a lot of big dudes you know that can't play like him. He gets in and out of breaks. You know, him. Now he gets in and out of breaks. You know, usually little guys can get in and out of breaks, but he can get in and out of breaks, intermediate, short routes, long routes, and he's a threat to take it, you know, 50, 60 yards any time he gets that ball in his hands. Now, obviously, the big thing is him staying healthy.
Starting point is 00:44:42 And we all know once you kind of hit that 30-year-old mark as a skilled position player in the league, a lot of these decision makers, you know, look at you like an old man. So, Julio, if there's one guy I would bet on, though, it would be Julio Jones. I just saw the chart you put up. I didn't need to see it. We all saw him play the game. He's a special, special talent. And, you know, shout out to Titans, you know, taking their shot, going out and getting them.
Starting point is 00:45:05 Obviously still a lot of question marks, a lot of holes in that defensive side of the ball. And whenever you got, you know, not a strong defense, you know, your special teams usually aren't going to be that good because your defensive depth usually is a big indicator there. So, I mean, big, big, big upgrade for the offensive side. But let's, you know, let's not give you sides out. So it's still the Tennessee Titans, and they still stink.
Starting point is 00:45:28 That was a great tweet, by the way. Absolutely. They got fired up by that one. Hey, just so we're clear, by the way. Just so we're clear. Just so we're clear, Titans still stink. Now, there is some alarming stats about Ryan Tannehill, too, where you say, like, hey, I want Ryan Tannehill to beat me
Starting point is 00:45:45 obviously having Derrick Henry in the backfield he has the second best play action uh rating behind Aaron Rodgers I believe Aaron has the highest rated passer rating uh after um uh play action and Ryan Tannehill is at two and it's's like, well, obviously, when Derrick Henry's there, people have to come fill. People have to come fill. So then you've got people behind there. But Tannehill with Derrick Henry, without Derrick Henry, let's just, you know, it is what it is. His stats next to Patrick Mahomes in the last like 26 starts
Starting point is 00:46:17 or his 26 starts with the Titans versus last 26 starts with the Chiefs, this dude does not stink. I think the Miami Dolphins Tannehill kind of oozes potentially into conversation sometimes conveniently, and for good reason. That guy was a wide receiver playing quarterback at Miami under Adam Gase. But since they just said, Mariotta, you've been the face of our team, take a seat, pal, and Tannehill has gotten in, he's been dominant. Now, Derrick Henry helps out a lot.
Starting point is 00:46:45 And Patrick Mahomes is going to go down as a Mount Rushmore quarterback in the history of the game. But Tannehill, he has to be so excited for this. I mean, the A.J. Brown, Julio Jones, and then you have to fill the box. What do you do? Is it just single coverage? Is that why everybody is probably like what do you what do you do here i mean it's tough it really is because aj aj brown's not a guy you want to leave with a
Starting point is 00:47:11 bunch of one-on-one coverage either and um he's a younger guy i think what is he going into his third year maybe and um he's a home run hitter as well julio i still expect him to be uh maybe not you know 15 16 100 years 100 yards a Julio, but he'll still be dominant. So it's tough. I mean, first down, you want to win first down. That's your best bet. Win first down, put him in second and long. But, I mean, it is tough because Derrick Henry,
Starting point is 00:47:35 he's 2,000 yards a year back damn near. So it's like, what the hell do you do? I mean, is it going to be a bunch of 38 to 35 type games? You know, if it is, you know, hats off to the Titans. Give them more weapons. Give them more firepower. Derrick Henry against the Colts last year when DeForest Buckner and Autry were out. Going into that week, I believe I said, hey, I normally bet on the Colts all the time.
Starting point is 00:48:04 This feels like this is going to be tough. Okay. Autry's now with the Titans. DeForest Buckner's still there. The Titans and Colts are about to go. In the Colts' defense, I'd put them up against any offense in the NFL and feel good to get a stop whenever they need it. But, boy, life just got difficult, I think, for the next two, three years
Starting point is 00:48:23 in an AFC South that nobody knows what's going to happen. Go ahead, Connor. Yeah, D-Butt, does this move for the Titans kind of, you know, make you think that they are a definite lock for, you know, the divisional round of the playoff, possible conference championship? Or are there still too many holes in the defense for you to make that type of statement? Knowing that you think they stink, by the way. Yeah, they absolutely stink. But, I mean, there's too many holes in the defense. Like I said, special teams, that's the phase of the game, too.
Starting point is 00:48:48 How well are they going to be there? I do love Coach Braybill. But, you know, you've got a big question mark still with the Colts, with the quarterback position. I think Carson Wentz would be a lot better being back with Frank Wright. He's got a lot of weapons around him, great backfield. Like Pat talked about, great defense. Is that first-round pick, is he going to be dynamic out of the gate?
Starting point is 00:49:08 I still think that's what we're missing on that defense. The Colts is a top-notch pass rusher. But the AFC is loaded, man. You got the Browns, the Ravens. You can never count out the Steelers, obviously the Chiefs. I think the Patriots will be back on top this year. You got a lot of teams that AFC is really loaded. I definitely wouldn't put
Starting point is 00:49:28 Tennessee in that division of the round. Go ahead, Ty. D, but I think it was Keyshawn Johnson who said this morning that he didn't really like the move for the Titans because their strength is running the football and all that kind of stuff. To what you alluded to with their defense stinking so they need to control
Starting point is 00:49:44 the football and everything. Do you think this will actually have them change their philosophy and identity a little bit, or not really? Are they still just going to use Julio as a home run hitter and primarily use him off the play action? Yeah, I mean, shit, if anything, it makes the run game better. Just like we talked about, what are you going to do with that? I don't get it. Why are these people so fucking stupid? I don't get it. Why are these people so fucking stupid?
Starting point is 00:50:06 I don't get it. This is all the internet yesterday, by the way. Just suck. Yeah. Like, I don't understand. What people? What people are you talking about, Pat? Who?
Starting point is 00:50:15 Well, I'm not. Keyshawn. I like Keyshawn a lot, but he just fed into what a lot of people were saying on the internet yesterday. It's like, I just. Doesn't it help the run game? And the run game helps Julio by the way it's a part of the whole fucking thing yeah i mean that was shit i would kishon johnson i'm sure would have
Starting point is 00:50:30 loved a back like derrick henry back there you know it's probably take away a couple touches he may not get 100 and you know five catches a year you may get 85 but i mean those are going to be home runs because you got one more one-on-one coverage so i'm sure julio you know he's coming from atlanta where he's seen double coverage probably his entire career outside of maybe his first two years when Roddy White was still there playing at a high level. But, you know, now with this offense, Taylor LeJuan coming back, strengthening that O-line, there's going to be a handful on the offense.
Starting point is 00:50:58 Right-hand man Taylor LeJuan. Go ahead, Diggs. D-Bot, PFF this morning, they're a very confident organization. He's very confident in everything they say and predicting the future. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. We need PFF to survive. We, PFF this morning, they're a very confident organization. It's very confident in everything they say and predicting the future. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. We need PFF to survive. We love PFF. I mean, they say some things that are very fascinating, but we do.
Starting point is 00:51:12 Yeah, they say some wild shit, but, you know, shout out to my guys over here. I forgot that you did the trap. Shout out, shout out, shout out. They now said that Calvin Ridley is their favorite to lead the league In yards so does it Is it going to happen this way or does Calvin Ridley face every single double now And is going to hurt it I mean you got Kyle Pitts
Starting point is 00:51:34 There too so Kyle Pitts I mean you know that's A mismatch that's a nightmare right there for defense As well but I like Ridley I like Ridley a lot Man I really think he's a one Leading the league in yards, they will have to throw the ball around a lot,
Starting point is 00:51:50 I would assume. So, I mean, it wouldn't be a bad bet depending on the odds. But it's not a bad bet at all because Kyle Pitts, he's going to demand some attention too. We don't know that! No, Kyle Pitts, he's going to demand it. We don't know that! 1000%. Okay, listen.
Starting point is 00:52:05 I hope Kyle Pitts dominates. I hope so because I'm excited to watch him play. But, I mean, they are allegedly thinking Kyle Pitts is going to replace Julio Jones. Schrag said this morning, and Schrag seems to be pretty dialed in, J-Rock, okay, the GM for the Titans, he was on pontoon, okay, getting after it yesterday while negotiating this deal, I guess, with Atlanta and Julio and everything like that. He said that Arthur Smith, new head coach from Titans,
Starting point is 00:52:35 as soon as he signed for the job, he knew there wasn't going to be Julio, basically. This has been something that they both kind of understood for the long, long time. So I think they were drafting Kyle Pitts. Maybe Kyle Pitts will be a replacement for Julio. But, I mean, this is a lot of pressure on old Kyle Pitts right now, I think, coming out of this thing. But he's either got it or he doesn't, right? He got it. They're crowning him.
Starting point is 00:52:57 You know, they're crowning him. A lot of people are putting him already as a top five tight end. I mean, he definitely has all the athletic ability. He'll get the target. He's going to be a mismatched nightmare. If he's matched up with tight ends, I mean, lineback has all the athletic ability. He'll get the target. He's going to be a mismatched nightmare. If he's matched up with tight ends, I mean, linebackers and safeties, I mean, he has favorable matchups. But, you know, you still got to prove it on this level.
Starting point is 00:53:12 You still got to, you know, have it mentally. You still got to be able to handle the game physically. So it's definitely an adjustment. So I'm not going to crown him just yet. But I would assume he's going to take some attention, a little bit of attention off Calvin, really. No, I don't think so. PFF said he's going to.
Starting point is 00:53:28 Third best tight end in the league. Yeah, for two, 300 a game. Darius, we appreciate you, man. Appreciate you guys, man. Ladies and gentlemen, at Darius J. Butler, host of the Man to Man pod and everything DB. We appreciate you, man. Yeah, dude.
Starting point is 00:53:41 Hey, go Heat. Go Heat, dude. Yep, go to hell home. Hey, hey. Hey, you still there? Yeah, what. Hey, go Heat. Go Heat, dude. Yep. Go to hell home. Hey, hey. Hey, you still there? Yeah, what's good? You told us with certainty. You remember when we walked in?
Starting point is 00:53:53 Hey, they're going to fill that stadium up. It's going to be easy. Hey, they're going to fill that stadium up. They just had Canelo down there. They filled that whole place up. Was it the rain? Was it that bad last night? How many people were there?
Starting point is 00:54:03 A lot of people. A lot of people. A lot of people were there. lot of people a lot of people a lot of people were there i'm saying massive amounts of people in a stadium though it can get exposed obviously if there is it did it rain was it a tropical storm down there last night why i mean down here this time of year you're always gonna get passing showers you're gonna get rain i know those people pissed off paying all that money to be you know on court ring side and getting rained on suited and booted they had to keep wiping wiping the ring side and getting rained on, suited and booted. They had to keep wiping the ring and shit.
Starting point is 00:54:28 I mean, that was bad. But I mean, I was entertained. A lot of people, I don't know, people expected fucking Canelo Mayweather. I expect to be entertained. I got Amigo's performance. I got a money bag, yo. I saw a Pokemon card.
Starting point is 00:54:41 I mean, it was cool, man. Hey, there was a lot going on out there. I also saw some undercard fights that were good. Ocho. O mean, it was cool, man. Hey, there was a lot going on out there. I also saw, you know, some undercard fights that were good. Ocho. Ocho held it down. He did. I think he represented the NFL pretty well out there. He took a shot, but he got right back up.
Starting point is 00:54:53 He was winning a couple rounds before that, I thought. Took a shot, got right back up. Even tried to dap him up. I think he was a little dazed there for a second. But, I mean, he held it down. No more basketball players getting in the ring. You know, football players, I trust this. I think Pac is going to get into one.
Starting point is 00:55:09 Pac-Man is going to find his way into winning one of these fights for us, I think. Pac is a fighter, though. I hope he, you know, you can't fight a boxer. So, if he's fighting somebody, I hope he's just fighting another amateur. No, no, listen. Ocho took the fight against that actual boxer. They said, Ocho, you want to fight Pac-Man? He's like, I don't think
Starting point is 00:55:28 so. I don't think I'm doing that. Anyone else? I don't think I'm doing that. By the way, you enjoyed that entire evening. You thought, okay, the Migos, great performance. Couldn't hear a lot of them. Didn't know the song. Probably should have known the song. That's on me. I didn't know it either, but you know,
Starting point is 00:55:43 they all kind of sound a little similar. Okay, a shot at me guys you just took there no i'll rock you yeah yeah yeah yeah that's what you said i assumed they were going to do fight night though right because yeah yes it is you know what i mean like and that's one of the best it actually has oh you're true true they probably they're probably you know going on tour or something probably trying to pub that song i understand but for the sake of the show, though. You know what I mean? Like, for the sake of the show, like, I think that would have been good. Moneybagg Yo, hey, that's Mitt's favorite rapper right there.
Starting point is 00:56:12 They cut the... Legit song. They should have had you on their announcement. The fight was decent. And I rock with Desus and Mero. They're funny dudes on their show. I've been rocking with them since Vice, but they were horrible ringside announcers. Like, horrible. Was there other dudes from
Starting point is 00:56:28 WWE? More of them. Used to be at WWE. Couple different stints. I got a chance to meet him over there. Incredibly talented dude. I mean, incredibly talented guy. He has been calling, you know, combat sports for, I think since he was like 17 or 18 years old
Starting point is 00:56:44 at this point. Yeah, long, long time. Very enthusiastic. Got a chance to learn a lot about him. Good guy. But I don't like, and I'll say it. I'll say it. I'll say it. Say it, Pat.
Starting point is 00:56:54 I didn't want to say it, you know, because I, like you, have been watching, you know, DeSouza and Mero since Vice and the internet and everything. Big fan, you know, like love their gifts as well. I mean, I use them in response for things. I mean, it is, I am a fan. I don't like though, Pete Davidson did this with Triller.
Starting point is 00:57:12 He just buried Jake Paul the entire time. Like we get it, we get it. Okay, Jake Paul, we get like everything, but it's kind of like he's the reason you're there though. Like, so at least he could have a little bit of a positive spin on this thing. Mauro has been in the combat sports for, you know, like three so at least he could have a little bit of a positive spin on this thing morrow has been in the combat sports for you know like three decades at this point so i feel like he had to represent for combat sports like if he would have said that logan paul you know had a
Starting point is 00:57:34 chance or or like completely you know like if there would have been any positive spin i think he thinks that the boxing world would have attacked him and you know because he does have credibility and then days there's a mirror i feel like they thought okay white guy all right it is youtuber we got to bury him as well i just think like all the motherfuckers don't know you're there because of him and floyd like like that's my big thing yeah hey yeah pat but what i think though i think what days is america are doing i think they believe they're speaking for the majority of americans watching the fight like hey we're gonna make like people like oh good look at him giving it to logan because a lot of people are upset that logan's in that situation and i understand there's a balance you know why man yeah
Starting point is 00:58:13 you can't i'm not saying it's right again yeah i mean i feel you but it i just i i mean i didn't like i wasn't a fan and shout out to logan too you know he lasted eight floyd was landing some shots i didn't expect him to get knocked out. I knew he was bigger than Floyd, even with the face-offs. But when they got in the ring, that shit looked crazy. He looked huge. So I didn't expect him to get dropped. He was obviously gassed.
Starting point is 00:58:35 And he was smart, you know, leaning on him, hugging him up. But he lasted eight, man. He definitely earned some respect from me. I just think that there's a way to do a both. You know what I mean, AJ? I think there's a way to do a both you know what i mean yeah aj that's what like i think there's a way to speak for the majority of people but also for the reality of the situation too like i thought it was weird yeah especially when they would cut to jake and they
Starting point is 00:58:56 would like make tiktok jokes like just every time yeah it did seem to yeah it was the whole night was weird yeah yeah i like i Yeah. Yeah. I like it. I'll watch it. I'll watch it again. Yeah. Chad looks awesome. Hey, I have a ton of respect. I've always had respect for Chad.
Starting point is 00:59:10 But first off, his cardio is off the charts. And he said he trained for two months. He looked good, man. Yeah. 40 something. 43? Yep. I sent him a DM.
Starting point is 00:59:20 You know, he and I have followed each other for a bit now. We've only had like two interactions. But Ocho is OG now. Twitter, everything. Like while I was doing Twitter in a very, you know, small way, Ocho was the guy, right? Yeah, he was early. Him and Biz, right? He got me fine.
Starting point is 00:59:40 He got you fine? He got me fine. My second year in the league, we were opening up with him, and he was tweeting me something, you know, talking shit going into the game. It was me. I was in my second year. Devin McCourty was in his rookie year, and we were matching up against him and T.O., and he was talking shit.
Starting point is 00:59:57 Oh, you know, you guys are going to double me, Bob. I'm like, man, nobody doubled you, you know, in two, three years. And then Belichick showed me the whole printout you know saturday after a walkthrough so i got fined for conduct detrimental talking about the game plan and typical bill uh og fast we actually whooped their ass but you know um ocho he definitely put like 150 on me did you double no we did not double we were up like three scores in the second half, so Carson probably threw it 35 times in the second half. So it was the best feat ever.
Starting point is 01:00:32 Ever, and he showcased it again last night. He played soccer. I don't think he's got an incredibly powerful leg. I don't think he played soccer growing up. Just a great athlete, but he's entrepreneurial. It is. With what he was doing with Twitter, him and biz, Paul, biz and net biz nasty.
Starting point is 01:00:47 It was always Ocho and biz were kind of the two guys that were in the Twitter game. I was like, Oh, these dudes are crushing it, you know? And it's, it's cool to see him continue to go, you know, like for sure. I was really like pumped for him last time. Yeah. Ocho's in a fucking boxing match right now on showtime. Like that's all Logan Paul said it a couple times
Starting point is 01:01:05 and I think he understood. And that's why I didn't like that they were just burying him because he was admitting, like, yo, this is a glitch in the simulation. I should not be here. Like, I think he was... Now, granted, the crowd was cheering for Floyd for the first time ever whenever he was starting to pepper
Starting point is 01:01:21 Logan or whatever. So, you know, clear heel, baby face situation there. But I don't know. I just, that was a joke. He earned more of my respect, especially after, you know, hearing him interview. And I'm literally watching. I'm like, yo, this dude is really fighting Floyd Mayweather right now.
Starting point is 01:01:37 It was, you know, and then seeing Ocho in the ring. And it was, I mean, it was low-key inspirational. Legit. You know, anything is possible. That's right, Kevin Garnett. Ladies and gentlemen, Darius Butler. Darius Butler. Joined by the HDB Hammerdown Boys.
Starting point is 01:01:58 Begins now. Also joining us from Ohio. About 25 minutes away from a COVID case this weekend. John Rahm's COVID, let's hope it did not float over to the Hawk household. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now, college football national champion, Super Bowl champion, A.J. Hawk. You all right? Is everything okay? Is everything all right over there with COVID? Running wild, brother. Yeah, everything is good.
Starting point is 01:02:24 I was watching John Rahm on TV about five minutes away where my house is from where he got picked up on the 18th. Too bad for the dude, man. Hope he's okay. We hope he's okay, too. He actually put out a statement saying it is what it is or whatever, you know, and then he said he's just happy him and his family are safe.
Starting point is 01:02:40 That's not the case. Jon, that's what they're saying. Jon. Jon, you need to stay away from your family right now. Not safe. Don't catch a bird. He's before the case Johnny John that's what They're saying John John you need to Stay away from your Family right now Not safe Don't count your Birdies before they
Starting point is 01:02:49 Hatch dude Nice How about that Two million bucks I think 2.1 million Or one point Something million
Starting point is 01:02:56 Dollars He would have won And all the FedEx cup points Like all of What that does To help you Qualify for
Starting point is 01:03:02 Upcoming tournaments It's unbelievable Now what is he So he'll count? Where is they going to rank him for that tournament? DQ? All right, like a WD. I think so.
Starting point is 01:03:10 Oh, no. John Raw and Powell. Last sports thing. Uncle COVID had a hell of a run in the sports world. I mean, it took out everything that we didn't even know was possible. March Madness was canceled at one point. March Madness, see you later. An entire season canceled by leagues
Starting point is 01:03:31 and moves and bubbles and this and that. And COVID had one last, you know what I mean? They came out and they played the hit one more time. Here's your leader. He's up six. He's going to win. COVID said, Here's your leader.
Starting point is 01:03:42 He's up six. He's going to win. COVID said. I'm coming home. Coming home. To throw a big old bone in your game like yesterday. They fucked him up, man. Big time.
Starting point is 01:04:04 Hey, it's crazy time to be John Rahm. And I'm happy to say that since that did happen and that was the official swan song the official encore of covid wait you think that's the official you think this is the last time covid affects a sporting event are you if you're gonna let me hold on agent if you're gonna we're about to announce something there. Please do, man. Please do. Like I was saying, hell of a run, man. Okay? You know what I mean? All time. What COVID did to sports is something that
Starting point is 01:04:32 sports could have never... I mean, sports were on the ropes. Yeah. Sports were damn near knocked out. Sports were hanging on to the arms like that one boxer last night who definitely didn't understand English and was disqualified for doing that whole thing in the in the undercard of the sports was there and then
Starting point is 01:04:51 one last shot from covet and john rom had to eat it just right right in the button you know what i mean and since that happened now and we have deemed it as you know like hey that's the final one like deemed it as you know like hey that's the final one like sports world we beat covid so sorry john rom had to be the representative it's from utah to john rom pal that's the covid sports run and that's all she wrote what were you trying to say in the middle of that announcement it sounds like you were trying to contradict the announcement, which is wild to me. Well, yeah, I mean, sorry for for jumping in there. You had such an amazing point. So I'm glad I didn't get to finish what I was saying. But I was saying you truly think this is the last time COVID comes into like to play in a big way when it comes to sports.
Starting point is 01:05:39 I do. Yeah. Strictly because of the backlash and everything that happened. You know, everybody being like, I mean, immediate burial of John Rahm for not getting the vaccine was the... You did earlier this week though, right? Oh, so he's in the middle. I didn't know he was in the middle. I don't want to dox. Hey, I ain't a dox. I don't know for sure what happened, but I've heard
Starting point is 01:05:58 that he got it this week when he was at the memorial. He got his first shot, but because he had been close contacts with somebody that had it. And so then he rushed, I heard, and got the vaccine. Okay, so he... I may be wrong, but there's something. It's not... I think he has at least one
Starting point is 01:06:13 shot. So you only get one shot. Don't miss your chance to blow, dude. Okay, he had six shot lead. It's funny you say that one shot talk, because he did have a six shot lead. But the people that were lead but the people that were normally the people that were saying when a positive came that it was reckless and all that shit you know like hey you're risking people's life those people weren't saying that they were
Starting point is 01:06:35 saying should have got the vaccine you idiot so like that was the fight as opposed to the you know what i mean so that's why i think it's about where we we did that's why I think it's because as opposed to saying that John Rahm was a terrible guy because he was endangering the lives of everybody around him instead it which was the normal reaction result
Starting point is 01:06:57 from that particular hey this is much bigger than what everybody else is treating at this side that was their normal like hey hey now it was like should have got the facts should have got the facts you wouldn't have to do a test so i i just it feels like we're there and it feels like covid i mean it did win against sports but this wasn't a trilogy this was a five fighter oh yeah and we came back late i think and here we are on the other side of it go ahead i agree with you that i was like oh yeah jazz to rum that's it but then i just thought about the olympics and all the fucking that goes
Starting point is 01:07:28 on in that village yeah but they're all going to be oh they're faxed up so they're not even going to test them oh cool we're good that's what i that's what i think a lot of the people on the internet were saying like hey there's a vaccine available why are you still testing for people like hey if they that's the whole thing and i assume it's because protocols and we're in a time right now where you know the nfl just put out a uh hey you have if you got one shot you're allowed to coach outside not allowed to coach inside if you got no shots by the way go ahead and just stay at the house you can't coach anybody you got about two weeks to do this this is right during the mandatory stuff so the the NFL hops on board with basically every single other operation is saying, if you get the vax, you're good.
Starting point is 01:08:12 If not, you're not. This is obviously going to be taken a couple different ways. They set the numbers into single digits for the amount of assistant coaches who haven't got vaccinated, who potentially will not be able to coach while everybody else coaches. It just feels like now we're in the part where we're going on the other side and the vax is being, you know,
Starting point is 01:08:30 so the vaccine is being pushed up so much to the argument of the people, okay, that probably had a lot more research than me for sure, but everybody else on earth it seemed like, that said how deadly it was, right? They're the same people that are propping up the vaccine. So it behooves them to say the vaccine does take care of everything that they were promoting before. But if they come out and say the vaccine isn't good enough, then it's like, well, wait a minute. Then the, the, the, is it, they're propping up this vaccine as like, Hey, this is, this is
Starting point is 01:09:04 the end all be all that's why i think we're on the other side of it you know it's a different fight now uh from my viewing from outside it seems like it's a much different fight if that makes sense yeah it's definitely still a fight though we'll definitely see people have strong opinions on both sides but the john rom thing is interesting too because he tested positive while he was there at the memorial I guess and then they were waiting to hear the reason they got him at 18 is because they were trying to back up that test to make sure it was true when do you think they truly knew that he tested positive the second time so in the morning he didn't have a failed test or something like that he got a test in the morning that said he was good to go and then that other
Starting point is 01:09:41 one came back at the time that you saw him i guess so i think they were trying to get to him as fast as possible now i don't they had to do the retest and nowadays the the retest is what 15 minutes 30 minutes yeah 15 like 15 minutes i think depending upon the line there's no line there nobody else getting tested other than john so i assume that's like a 10 minute thing a quick little turnaround and oh God, get the fuck out of here. Get him in his own car. Get him away from his family. Never come back.
Starting point is 01:10:08 Did that happen or not? Because if, if it didn't happen, then, then what are we doing? What are we doing here? You know what I mean? What do you mean? If they didn't take him out of there right away? Yeah. And like isolate him.
Starting point is 01:10:20 They put him on the back of a, on the back of the golf cart with this caddy. Do you see, they were driving him off the property. But, yeah, where does he go? Luckily, he's a golfer and he can fly home private. What do you do if you can't fly home private? You get in a car somehow and drive yourself. Do we not care about the pilots? You have to have at least two pilots in there.
Starting point is 01:10:36 Well, they could close their door and have their mask on as Rom comes on. The air, though. Yeah, air circulates. I mean, you're basically. You think John Rom is sleeping in Columbus somewhere today? Should be. Should be in your house. Lock him down in a villa.
Starting point is 01:10:48 So, you know, when you open that plane thing, you're basically just... You're breathing everybody else's air. Yeah. You might as well just go... And just, you know, shotgun it basically around. That's what you're doing. So those pilots are breathing the same air.
Starting point is 01:11:02 They don't feel the same Gs, it feels like. No, they definitely don't. Up there in the front. No way. But they are breathing the same air. They don't feel the same Gs, it feels like. No, they definitely don't. Up there in the front. No way. But they are breathing the same air as everybody else. I mean, he's got to still be there, right? There's no way that they, I mean. He definitely flew home.
Starting point is 01:11:14 I don't know. Isolate. From the way he's doing. Hey, Diggs got COVID. Diggs, what'd you do when you got COVID? I fucking isolated. Right into the cave. One to the cave.
Starting point is 01:11:23 Now he became the best gambler of all time. Does COVID make you a good gambler? Does COVID make you a good golfer? There are, you know, examples that we could argue that for days. Absolutely. Especially with how John Rahm's played. He's the only known COVID player I've ever seen play golf. Unbelievable.
Starting point is 01:11:39 The best I've ever seen this guy play. Unbelievable golfer. Diggs became the greatest gambler he's ever been. But Diggs was smart. Yeah. Diggs said, listen gambler he's ever been. But Diggs was smart. Diggs said, listen, I don't want to take down the whole office. No. I don't even want to take down the family. No.
Starting point is 01:11:53 He locked himself in a bedroom as soon as he found out. The COVID cowboy hung his cap up right there on the door, left the light on, said, I'll be back after this fight. If John Rahm failed the COVID test and they had to disqualify him immediately, it's because, what, they were scared of the potential health repercussions to everybody, right? Yeah, of course. Put him in a tent. Get his ass
Starting point is 01:12:14 in one of those meth-making suits that old buddy was wearing out. Hazmat suit, yeah. Get him in there. What do we do? That might be the last case that we ever see. Hopefully. I didn't take my private plane anywhere. See? He knew the pilots.
Starting point is 01:12:28 Could breathe the same stuff. I promise you, John Rahm is not in Ohio right now. There's no way. So he's just taking COVID. Every one of these guys is just trotting around. He's going to hang out for 14 days here? You really think that? What state's like, yeah, come on.
Starting point is 01:12:43 Does he live in Texas or Florida? At least until he gets the next vaccine shot, and then he can get out of there. Maybe. No, but then it's 14 days. No, it's 14, I think. I think it's 14. He's in Ohio for a month.
Starting point is 01:12:55 Another month? Oh, my God. Bro, they had to disqualify him from a tournament. I know, but he still can go home. He still, I promise you. He's confident. He was probably staying at AJ's. AJ knows he's not there anymore.
Starting point is 01:13:07 Oh, when did he move out of your house? Do you got COVID on those walls? Stayed there. Huh? What would I have done? Say I rented my house to him. He tests positive for COVID. What do I do?
Starting point is 01:13:17 How do I come back into the house? You don't, dude. Burn it down. Build a new one. You ever seen Bug when they... Bio dump? Yeah, when you put a tent over your house and they fumigate it, and then you go back in.
Starting point is 01:13:27 Anyways, what we're saying, though, is obviously we might be overreacting. Just a little bit. Maybe. But they also told him he could not play in a tournament, that he had a six-shot lead in. Costs millions of dollars. So that's setting the standard of how we're acting towards this and how we're treating it.
Starting point is 01:13:44 Okay, it's costing this guy, potentially with the FedEx Cup standings, four to five million dollars. Yeah. Okay, potentially. Two there, and then who knows whatever else. If he's in a certain group, potentially. So we have to treat it as such. I mean, they put him on the back of that golf cart and took him right off the premises.
Starting point is 01:14:02 Get him the fuck out of here. He's got to still be in Ohio at least another 21 days. He's going to be missing more tournaments too. It's not like he can play next week. Well, 21 days because he's got to get the next vaccine, which is probably two weeks from now. Yep.
Starting point is 01:14:20 Then he has to have at least another 10. I'm sorry. So we got 24 days. Yeah, possibly. Might have to get Merrill Hodge on to ask him. All 10. I'm sorry. So we get 24 days. Yeah, possibly. Might have to get Merrill Hodge on to ask him. All right. All right, Gumpy. All right.
Starting point is 01:14:31 At least maybe Rom can watch our show in his COVID tent for the next 29 days that you say he's going to stay. We did pick up a lot of viewers due to their experience in their COVID caves. And I would like to thank all of them for taking it as serious as John Rom should. Yeah. If we see him swing in a club within the next 10 days, kick him off the tour, Doug. Put him in jail. Hey, you can technically, Ty, you would know,
Starting point is 01:14:52 can't you technically test positive still after you have the vaccine? Yes. Yeah, but if you have the vaccine, you don't get tested. Yeah, I mean, maybe. Maybe not. No, I'm pretty certain. That's how, like, everybody's operating. That's what I'm saying, though, about not. No, I'm pretty certain. That's how like everybody's operating. I think that's what I'm saying though
Starting point is 01:15:07 about the whole thing. Because if you get the vax, you're not subject to tests. I've seen on the internet, there's actually two doors in some places. You know? Hey, vaccinated go this way, non-vaccinated go this way.
Starting point is 01:15:21 Okay? I've seen that. So that's how it is now. You're non-vaccinated you get you have to get tested if you're vaccinated you don't have to get tested but we're not forcing you to do this but you would be looking out for society if you did it i mean there's just a never-ending there's just and by the way there's people on both sides of political affiliations and once again i'm not somebody that follows that close enough to give real opinions.
Starting point is 01:15:46 I'm just telling you about people that I know that are on both sides. You know what I mean? Both sides hate the vaccine, hate it. There's people on both sides that are like,
Starting point is 01:15:55 nah, I'm not doing it. You can't force me to do it. I'm not the experiment, okay, on this new thing you guys just popped up in a month and a half. Then there's people on both sides that are like,
Starting point is 01:16:04 you are a threat to fucking earth if you don't get it. So to your point, it feels like it's never going to end because usually it's just ah, ah, ah. This one, it feels like it's the cicadas. Ah,
Starting point is 01:16:20 ah. You know, there's just no. And here we are. We beat COVID. We did it. We did it. AJ, there's just no. And here we are. We beat COVID. We did it. We did it. AJ, let's get to it now. We spent 17 minutes in the first hour. Pitter pattering, doing the bullshit.
Starting point is 01:16:37 Then we got right to it. Julio Jones, Tennessee Titan, a second and a future fourth, another sixth. And Julio, I mean, what second and a future fourth, another sixth, and Julio. I mean, what the hell is going on here? How does this happen? We talked to Ian Rappaport, and he tells me his age, his injury, which I debutted, not debunked. And debutt will debunk as well immediately upon him saying it.
Starting point is 01:17:01 It's like 135 out of 160 regular season games. Is that good? I don't know. You tell me.. Is that good? I don't know. You tell me. Is that fucking good? I don't know. I'm not sure. How about most yards per game?
Starting point is 01:17:10 Number one in the NFL's history in 10 years. Number two in overall receiving yards or something like that to Jerry Rice in his first 10 years. There's another graphic that he is in the top right axis part, which, by the way, if you ever see a graphic, it's like, I'm sorry, in this particular one, you know those little Y and X axis things? You ever see that one?
Starting point is 01:17:33 Yeah. You ever see this? Okay, so you see where the right shoulder is? Shoulder roll like Floyd, by the way. What? What, dude? What? What, dude?
Starting point is 01:17:41 What? What? Anyways, this one means something, and this one means something, and this one means something. And if it's a positive graph, there's a lot of negative graphs, but if there's a positive one, he who sits way the fuck up here is normally the best one. Look who the fuck's way over there.
Starting point is 01:17:59 Wow. A sign from Julio Jones, okay, which is in the top right corner. Shout out to NFL Reddit, by the way, posted by Giants. We don't know if this stat is accurate, obviously, but we assume it is because it got promoted by the NFL's Reddit page or whatever. So there's targets, and then there's amount of yards, basically, per target. He's the best in the history of the game. By far.
Starting point is 01:18:23 This is just classic. Aside from julio he ends up going for a second a future fourth and then a sixth and julio jones the other way it just this is wild dude this is fucking wild to me that this happened in tennessee titans that offense becomes i mean if tannehill continues to do AJ that team becomes a fucking problem Immediately in the AFC South Which I mean Colts are a great team Their defense ain't going to be scared of anything
Starting point is 01:18:51 I understand that but god damn If he's on the Colts I mean we're going I mean we're doing it I think Tennessee Titans feel the exact same way AJ Well it sounded like the Colts Were never in the game Pat like I don't know how much they Explored That's what Ian said But every star player that becomes a free agent it sounded like the Colts were never in the game, Pat. I don't know how much they explored.
Starting point is 01:19:06 That's what Ian said. But every star player that becomes a free agent, you feel like the Colts have to sign? Not everyone. Oh yeah, my bad. You didn't want them to sign Carson at first, that's for sure. Well, if Aaron Rodgers is available, I would like the Colts to sign Aaron Rodgers.
Starting point is 01:19:24 If Julio Jones is available, guess what? I would like the Colts to sign Julio Jones. If Julio Jones is available, guess what? I would like the Colts to sign Julio Jones, especially if we have the money, the team, everything to do so. That's just me being like, hey, I live in the city, got a lot of love for a lot of people that work in that building, athletic trainers, equipment managers, front office people. Like, hey, the community's awesome. Like, we got a team.
Starting point is 01:19:43 Let's go get it. Not everybody. I'm not out here politicking for everybody. But Julio fucking... So sorry to interrupt, but I want to let you know that if you're not gambling with FanDuel, you're wrong. Okay? FanDuel Sportsbook is available in seven states, I believe, at this point. Six, seven, eight. You get it.
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Starting point is 01:20:45 it yet use it nah also there's fantasy on there daily fantasy and free to play games where you can win money shout out to vandal shout to you let's get back to the show hey how you doing pal hour three let's go how are you doing this one out aj hey i'm doing great what uh it seemed like to be uh an energetic return from the break where you were kind of chuckling. What happened? We were talking actually about you. Funny you say that.
Starting point is 01:21:10 We were talking about how you got a weed whacker sent to your house or whatever, you know? I've been looking for a weed whacker from Manscaped for like two, three months at this point. Long time. At least. So long that Zito actually forgot that he's already offered up to search for one in the office.
Starting point is 01:21:24 And I was like, no, we've already did that. He was like, oh, okay, sorry about that. I'm going to look again, though. And then we were talking about how as you get older, actually, there's more. And you can't just pull them out. It hurts so bad just to pull them out. And that weed whacker I had when it broke, it was perfect. And I broke it, by the way.
Starting point is 01:21:40 It was traveling. Oh, really? Put it in something. No, good. So my massive sniffer, it's on my knee. So we actually talked about you getting one. I was like, God damn, AJ got one before me. I'll send it to you.
Starting point is 01:21:50 Hey, I don't have a hairy inner nose. I've never used it, so I can send it to you. What? So you lied during the read then last? Yeah. What do you? I don't know what to believe now. You're a fraud.
Starting point is 01:22:01 You're full of shit. You're a fraud. You're bad. You're a fraud. You're full of shit. You're a fraud. You're bad. You're bad. I don't know if I've ever had to use a nose trimmer. I don't know. I'm not a hairy guy, especially my nose. Well, you keep the germs out then.
Starting point is 01:22:13 Yeah, because that's what the nose hair does. The nose hair is a little, it's like in Gladiator. You know in Gladiator when they're all out there and they put the shields down and the spikes up and they're in the middle there? That's kind of what your nose hair is in your nose But sometimes some can get a little bit too, you know ahead of their skis in there You know what I mean? And some try to start battling outside the nose and that's when you need that weed whacker, which is beautiful and amazing and I'm actually gonna buy one. Let's go to Roland in Texas Roland. What's going on pal? I'm actually going to buy one. Let's go to Roland in Texas. Roland, what's going on, pal?
Starting point is 01:22:45 What's up? What's up, Pat and the boys? How y'all doing? Not too shabby. How are you down there in Texas, pal? Hey, I think John Rom's flying there. So, take it easy. Lock him down. Keep an eye out. Good luck down there. What do you want to talk about, Roland?
Starting point is 01:23:00 Oh, you know, I wanted to talk about... There was nobody listening here Deshaun Watson Sorry, Roland, go ahead, pal I wanted to talk about The best quarterback in the NFL Deshaun Watson
Starting point is 01:23:14 And what's going on down there You know, Tyrod Taylor's backing up Is he going to take us to the Super Bowl, maybe? Alright, Roland Hey, you think maybe Are you a diehard Houston Texans fan? Oh, yes, sir, I am. But, you know, we fucking suck. You know, fuck
Starting point is 01:23:29 Easterby. Listen, he tweeted this weekend. He said something like, little things lead to big things or something like that. It's the little things. He tweeted something this weekend. I saw it pop up and I was like, thank you, Jack. Hey, real quick. this is the
Starting point is 01:23:45 first roland i've ever met huh jay's dog's name's roland that's a badass name pal i just want to let you know that were you an oilers fan uh no man i was uh i was born uh in 1999 so i didn't get to enjoy those days when did the texans come back to houston uh 2002, so it is like your entire generation because somehow that stadium was always filled with diehard fans, and I think people said, well, it was the Oilers fans, and then now it's the young kids that have been around long enough. I always thought Houston had one of the best places to play, one of the best fan bases we ever played against,
Starting point is 01:24:23 but it never really got the prominence that I thought it should. Also, what? Third largest? No, fourth largest city in America? I mean, yeah, right? Third? No, fourth. I think Chicago was third.
Starting point is 01:24:33 New York, LA, Chicago. Yeah, but Houston's trying to get Chicago. Oh, yeah. They're closing in. Chicago's number two, I think. No, no. You guys are far third, but I think also close fourth. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:42 I think Houston's trying to get you guys. They're nipping. Now, from one side of Houston to the other is a four-hour drive. It is a lot of land mass out there, but their fans are awesome. Shout out to you, Roland. The AFC South, I mean, couldn't he have went to the Patriots? If he goes to the Patriots, I think as a Colts fan, I'm like, yeah, of course he went to the Patriots,
Starting point is 01:25:06 but he goes to the Titans. It's like, we potentially have to stare this down because we were one of, now there's future contracts that have to be paid. All right. There's players, young players that were drafted by Ballard that have been incredible, absolutely incredible. And Chris Ballard has great drafting experience. So I can understand how the draft picks are very, very valuable. Now, with that being said, last year's first, he traded for DeForest Buckner. He loves DeForest Buckner, paid DeForest Buckner.
Starting point is 01:25:33 Now, if you have a chance at Julio and you have the salary cap at the moment, I guess that doesn't account for the future, that whole thing. But now we got to stare him down two times a year, at least, and hopefully he's a big fat fucking bust all right i hope i hope everything that everybody's saying uh telling me i'm an idiot on the internet and all these other people are just completely right and i'm completely wrong
Starting point is 01:25:55 because i think that makes that team hey that ball club is a tough ball club all of a sudden aj that's if he goes to the patriots like yeah it's the afc it's the patriots that's what they do but now it's like oh no is there a potential AFC East. It's the Patriots. That's what they do. But now it's like, oh, no. Is there a potential tide turn in the AFC South? Colts are still an incredible team. Absolutely incredible team. Special teams defense. And if Carson Wentz is not broken, offense as well.
Starting point is 01:26:16 But, God damn, they've made it to the playoffs a couple years in a row as well. I just don't know how I'm going to deal with this whole thing. And Texans fans have to deal with it. Jaguars fans have to deal with it. But I think the Colts fans potentially have the most vested interest in this entire thing, AJ. Especially if Julio just lights them up for the next couple years.
Starting point is 01:26:36 I'm sure you will be sounding the horn and reminding everybody that you possibly could have had. No, no, no. I won't. AJ, you know it's not like me. Oh, that's not like you at all. You're right. But do you know what? So the Titans pick up all of Julio's salary.
Starting point is 01:26:48 They don't make the Falcons responsible for any of it. Do you think that may have been something that other teams were not able, they didn't want to take on his whole salary, and that's why it fell through maybe? Per Albert Breer this morning, allegedly the Patriots were in conversation, but then as soon as it got to the who's paying what, they kind of drifted out of the conversation quickly
Starting point is 01:27:05 So I I understand the negotiations are all you know negotiable, that's right, just like situations are Situational and I can see how you don't want to be the person that loses a trade or whatever but like Stefan digs DeAndre Hopkinskins you know now it's like we are in a time where if you get a guy that puts you right there in the conversation why not do it the green bay packers it sounds like we're never even a thought now the colts i guess we weren't either but that's a situation and aj the man who was in the kentucky derby photo with his ratchet-ass hand above his wife's shoulder alongside Aaron Rodgers.
Starting point is 01:27:48 The first picture that surfaced of Aaron Rodgers since all this conversation happened about the accumulation tweet from Adam Schefter, day of draft. AJ, if Julio Jones is brought to the Green Bay Packers, do you think that changes how this whole thing with Aaron goes? I would say there's no chance that it would make it worse if you brought Julio in. Wow.
Starting point is 01:28:13 See, now Julio, though, if Julio was a part of the conversation, and they're like, you want to go to the Green Bay Packers? No, I don't know if the Green Bay Packers even snooped around. Probably not. Sounds like they didn't, and that isn't something they would do ever. I guess they have traded for people in the past or whatever. But if that happens, you think Julio asks, well, I saw videos of Jordan Love. Now, I know he's probably gotten better.
Starting point is 01:28:35 Okay, I understand he's probably gotten better. But is Aaron there or is Aaron not there? And you're like, well, we're not sure at this point. Maybe Julio said Green Bay's not on the list. You know, we have no idea what it is. We have no clue. We've got to hope for another Julio Jones appearance, probably on Buss list you know we have no idea what it is we have no clue we got to hope for another Julio Jones appearance probably on Bussing with the Boys by the way down there with Taylor and Will Compton I can't wait to hear that see what they say
Starting point is 01:28:53 but there's a lot of teams it's like why will Jalen Ramsey tweeted we could have got into this couldn't we I mean we've given away a lot we've made a lot of plays but we could have got Julio Jalen said we're not I mean we're probably not of plays, but we could have got Julio. Jalen said we're not – I mean, we're probably not stoppable if we would have got Julio. I just – I wonder if some people were scared of the potential market and didn't snoop around, or they did snoop around and it was legitimate like that's too much for us and why. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:29:19 I just think we and next players maybe view him much differently than a lot of other people apparently. Yeah, I didn't know people – like, I'm i'm with you like i've seen everything you tweet out like you're so surprised that this is all it took to get julio and some people act like that was that's a huge thing you have to give up i i view it the same way you do and the i guess the biggest concern and or the reason people wouldn't go after him is if you sign him you give away these picks and what julio plays, like four games this year, six games next year,
Starting point is 01:29:48 like they're worried that he's going to be hurt. Is that what it is? I guess, but the actual teams in actual places will be like, hey, how's the hamstring? You know, hamstring's something you can recover from. I guess that's what he had last year. He is older, right? So maybe it's like once his hamstring starts going, it's going to continue to go maybe that's their thought but i what is a bust here especially if they
Starting point is 01:30:10 and maybe we don't know this will kind of come out as we go maybe there's a contract renegotiation that is also a stipulation on side of this right because that's why stefan gilmore was allegedly on the trade block from new england for so, even while he was winning defensive player of the year, is because that next contract, the Patriots aren't going to pay him, so they want to try to get something in return, and then the thought would be a re-contract negotiation would happen in his new home. I wonder if that's what happened with this,
Starting point is 01:30:39 and everybody's like, we won't be able to pay him for the next five years, which is maybe we'll see that over the next couple of days with Tennessee. I just, I do not. Randy Moss, when I was in the league when it happened, I was confused about. That seemed to work out. Nobody ever talks about that. Everybody seems to talk about the 2% chance that a second rounder
Starting point is 01:30:58 becomes a Hall of Famer or a fourth rounder is next to 0%, by the way, out there. But it's like, I don't know, man. Get you a guy. This is the aside from guy. AJ, we have to live by a set of rules, I mean, a code. Like, if it's the aside from guy or girl, can't treat them the same as everybody else.
Starting point is 01:31:18 Just can't do it. I think that is something we got to do. If it is the aside from this person, blah, blah, blah, can't do it. And listen, those people aren't going to be perfect. They're going to fuck up too. But Julio, by all accounts, including that graph, get that graph back up. The actual, can we get the axis? Look at this fucking thing.
Starting point is 01:31:40 I mean, this is like the most aside from graph I've ever seen in my entire life. Look at it literally everything i've been it's even the fucking hand motion that i made aside from julio jones up here it is just i don't why why am i seeing it so differently than all these gms why is it because they don't want to lose what is it i'm still here are, two hours and 13 minutes into the show the following day where the United States soccer team has won a fucking international tournament. The men's soccer team, that never happens. The women are the only people that win in the soccer world for us.
Starting point is 01:32:15 Logan Paul, Floyd Mayweather had a battle. Ocho Cinco impressed. John Rahm got COVID, and that whole thing happened. But all, I just don't understand. I didn't understand about Tom last year. last year allegedly nobody was in the market this one i just don't fucking get it makes me question everything makes me question everything i think and everything i know aj i mean i guess they value these draft picks more than we do sitting here why they're the ones that are making the decisions i guess we don't value the picks as much as they do. But you know why, AJ?
Starting point is 01:32:45 Tell them. Why? I said this last week. Tell them, AJ. You'd much rather have a proven player that's made plays than a potential? Man, why would we do that, AJ? Why? Yeah. Because you want to win games and make money?
Starting point is 01:32:59 Well, and also because we've seen it, right? Like you probably not because you're middle linebacker, fifth overall pick. You're probably so focused on leading that defense. Click clack. Click clack, dude. Fucking click clack.
Starting point is 01:33:12 Click clack. I got to see, you know, like everybody that came in for special teams and everybody that has come through a locker room. I've tried to meet literally every motherfucking guy
Starting point is 01:33:22 that has come through our locker room because, hey, they might be on special teams. If they're going to be on special teams, I would like them to like me because I would like us to work good together. Like, I feel like I have met a lot of motherfuckers that were unbelievably talented, but for whatever reason, could not play in the NFL. I don't know why. I have no clue why. I wish it didn't happen.
Starting point is 01:33:44 You don't hear about a lot of them because maybe they have like a good career, not great, not terrible, so they're not labeled a bust, so you don't talk about them. It's just kind of just move along. How are you doing? You just kind of get it going there. That happens so much in the NFL. And I think that's why you, me, other players, I saw Torrey, no.
Starting point is 01:34:06 Torrey Smith? No, somebody tweeted it last night. Somebody tweeted, I'll take a proven player every single time. And it's because, I think it's because we've been and just seen, like, this guy's supposed to be the face of this franchise. This guy stinks. Like, hey, this guy is supposed to be great. For whatever reason, great guy. Hey hey this guy supposed to be great for whatever
Starting point is 01:34:25 reason great guy hey great guy love this he fucking stinks of football like it just in the NFL like there's just that happens on such a a high percentage and I think that's why a lot of players are like give us the fucking real guy we know he's gonna be here now I guess he's gonna be hurt 135 of 160 games so I mean he is to miss maybe a game and a half, two games or something like that, even though nine and five are the two years where he missed a large majority of his fucking games. It's just like, come on, what are we even doing? But last year, the games he sat out, like if Atlanta was in a playoff push, I wouldn't doubt that he was out there. He's playing.
Starting point is 01:35:01 Exactly. During the Super Bowl, when they went to the Super Bowl, he had that banged up foot, and he played every single game and still made ridiculous sideline catches. I'm getting a lot of tweets from people that are saying in fantasy, fantasy owners can't trust him because he's questionable, questionable, questionable.
Starting point is 01:35:15 But hey, in real life, I respect fantasy. I respect you guys a lot. I appreciate the dedication. It is time consuming to be in the fantasy game. The daily fantasy people, I got a lot of respect. Over here in fucking reality, though, the motherfucker plays. Okay?
Starting point is 01:35:30 So I know he might not be in your lineup because he's questionable. There's a cue next to him on practice report maybe or something like that. Like, okay, for questionable. Wow. Wow. okay, for questionable. Well, yeah. But anyways, in real life, he shows up and he plays. So I can understand where you maybe have this narrative like, oh, he doesn't play. He doesn't play because he doesn't play necessarily for your fantasy team. It's like he plays and he does good, really good.
Starting point is 01:36:02 So much so that he's one or two in almost every statistic in the history of the fucking league in this entire thing. And Deebo was just saying, like you guys were talking about it, him being on the field, just being there, helps out Derrick Henry and A.J. Brown. Like, that's not shit that's going to pop up on a fantasy football score, but that's the reality of the football game. Hey, fantasy football is good stuff.
Starting point is 01:36:21 I do appreciate it. Thank you, fantasy. I appreciate fantasy football. It's a big part of the entire business of everything, football. We don't dabble in it at all. Probably missing a boat on some stuff. Yeah, that's surprising. Wouldn't it?
Starting point is 01:36:34 I mean, it would definitely benefit you to come up with like a fantasy show. Maybe have Diggs and Connor do it or maybe Jay and Billy. Jay and Bill? Yes. I don't know if Jay does fantasy football. Jay's a big real-life guy. Yeah, no. Yeah, Jay, no. Jay and Bill? Yes. I don't know if Jay does fantasy football. Jay's a big real-life guy. Yeah, no. Yeah, Jay, no.
Starting point is 01:36:48 Jay sniping people on Call of Duty all night every night. Yeah, true. He doesn't have time to look at fucking rosters and see who's sick and who isn't. True. Bill is a big fantasy football guy, though. Is he really? Oh, yeah. Loves him.
Starting point is 01:36:58 That makes sense. I appreciate Bill and what he does, but I can't fake interest stuff. I wish I could. The boys, I mean, if somebody wants to do a fantasy show, absolutely. I think we've talked about it a couple times. Too many people to help out there. You can't help them all. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:37:11 I forgot. We had a fantasy guru. I forgot about that. That happened, and then he had to retire it because he felt bad he couldn't help everybody because so many people were asking him for fantasy advice. He also dunked on Matthew Barry before. Big time. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:37:24 I asked Matthew Barry a question, and before Matthew Barry, the guy who created fantasy football, I think, is what everybody says, before he could get it out, turned and was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. The Damien Tomlinson. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Which, by the way, right answer. Nailed it.
Starting point is 01:37:37 Nailed it. Right answer from the COVID cowboy. Lost touch with the industry. So we had a fantasy expert, dude. We did have a fantasy expert there for a little bit. I forgot all about it. That was fantastic. What was that, like two, three weeks?
Starting point is 01:37:53 Yeah. Oh, yeah. Michael Pittman actually was one of them. The one week where he had all of his yards. Yeah. Diggs had them. Hey, that guy's a ball player now. That guy's a ball player.
Starting point is 01:38:05 Gambling's more fun. It is. Yeah. And it's quicker. Don't you gamble on fantasy somehow, though? Yeah, there's money. Fantasy was legalized gambling there for a while. That was kind of like a way to sneak in.
Starting point is 01:38:18 It's like CBD, sneaking in some places instead of sports gambling. That's kind of what it was like. It was like, come on in, dabble. Have a share of, I don't know, $100 thousand dollars if you don't stink come on in there isn't that what most people are doing in states where it's not legal but they can still do yeah like the fan duel daily fantasy stuff so there's a free to play too that i guess is just contest you know you see them promoted like get your share of blah blah blah answer these questions i think we can make like any one of those we want. We should start doing that a little bit more.
Starting point is 01:38:47 Okay. Like, picking the scores of each game and stuff like that? Because I think it's for everybody. You have to be 18 plus or whatever. But, like, for some events, I tried for my NXT TakeOver 30 to put one together. But I thought of it too late because I do not think ahead at all. You know, I thought of it, like, four days beforehand, and I was like, hey, can we – any way we can do this?
Starting point is 01:39:09 They're like, fuck, yeah. And it was like an entire thing. But now we're at the point, I think, where we could tech-wise just kind of do whatever. But like is this going to go longer than five minutes, yes or no? Well, pat, kick, Adam Cole, yes or no. You can have like five ten questions and if you get a certain amount right you get entered into potentially win a share of a prize or whatever that's kind of you know fantasy is different than that but that can happen in places as well i
Starting point is 01:39:35 believe so it's fantasy and free to play what those called if it's not sports gambling regulated state i believe i mean that's a great way to work the system. Holy shit, I didn't know that's what they were doing in all the states that weren't legalized gambling. Now, I don't know if it's every single state you can do that in, but it's definitely more states than the sports gambling thing. But yeah, that would have been dope. I thought it was a good idea.
Starting point is 01:39:56 I was pretty pumped when I thought of it. It's like, of course, couldn't fucking do it any earlier. You did that with the punting, right? Wasn't there one week where it was like, how many punts will be over 50? How many will be under 50? What did he say? The punting.
Starting point is 01:40:09 With the punting. The punting. What did you think I said? What did you think it was? Take that G out of here, right? Huh? He took that G right off that word, didn't he? Yeah, I guess so.
Starting point is 01:40:21 Punting. Okay. So you're talking kick the ball, how Pat kicks the ball. Is that the word you're talking about? What the hell are you talking about? What are you doing? What are you talking about?
Starting point is 01:40:28 You're a sick puppy, AJ. The punting? What are you talking about? Yeah. The punting. Oh, my God. What are you talking about? The punting?
Starting point is 01:40:36 Is he punting the ball? Is that what you're talking about? We made a prop bet. We made a prop bet about punting. Punting in the NFL. Yeah, but Connor says punting. That's on the side. I don't know what he's trying punting. Punting in the NFL. But Connor says punting. That's on the side. I don't know what he's trying to say. Punting the ball. So you hate his... Hold on.
Starting point is 01:40:51 So you hate the way he speaks. So, Pat, you were in the NFL. You were a punter. You punted the ball. Or you could say punting. Connor is saying punt... What's he saying? Yeah, when Pat was in the league, he was punting the ball on Sunday. Hey, don't be a punt over there, dude.
Starting point is 01:41:07 Don't be a fucking punt, pal. All right. He just has an issue with the way that I said punting. Milk, milk to him right now. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Does he really say milk? No, I don't say milk. I say caramel, though. Pittsburgh's
Starting point is 01:41:24 a big milk town. Really? Pillow. I said milk. Pillow, pillow. Yeah. All the ways. Water.
Starting point is 01:41:32 Roof. Roof. Roof. Potato, potato. Roof. Slippy. Wolf. A lot of potatoes out there.
Starting point is 01:41:39 Really? I ate tomatoes as well, pal. Anyways. Yeah, we did that once for punting. Yeah. Yeah. Sorry. I was. So, first, we did that once for punting. Yeah. Yeah. Sorry.
Starting point is 01:41:46 Okay. So first off, I honestly didn't know what he meant at first. And then you guys kept acting like you had no idea what I was talking about. I still do. We didn't ever know because, you know, we were so dialed into the statement that he was making. That's why this show is the show. Which fantasy league is it where you have to, like, they dye your poodle green if you lose? What is that? Nick, actually. That's why this show is the show. Which fantasy league is it where you have to like, they dye your poodle green if you lose? Nick, actually, that happened to Nick. He didn't have a poodle,
Starting point is 01:42:10 but he had to puke four or five times in one day. Oh, the beer mile, right? Yeah, the beer mile, the field goal. It was a boozy combine. Had to chug a beer in between running a 40-yard dash, kicking two field goals, throwing two balls as far as you can, punting two balls as far as you can, running a 40-yard dash, kicking two field goals, throwing two balls as far as you can,
Starting point is 01:42:27 punting two balls as far as you can. There you go. Running a mile. Yeah, it was terrible. Yeah, I like the fantasy football community. I really do. I enjoy everything. The punishments, the amount of dedication it takes to be good at it, the shit-talking, the trades, the strategery.
Starting point is 01:42:42 But over here in reality, it's a little different story with Julio, okay? So you just keep what's going on on the Internet. the trades, the strategery. But over here in reality, it's a little different story with Julio, okay? So you just keep what's going on on the internet. We're just talking about the real world. Don't let that sway your narrative because he's not in your starting lineup because he's questionable going into the game. He's playing 135 times out of 160 times. And it sucks.
Starting point is 01:43:01 I'm sorry you can't take advantage of how good he is because the fucking Titans are about to. And this is a problem, AJ. I am flustered about. Always will be. What's that, Gump? The Titans, probably easier for them to pull the trigger after what happened with their first rounder last year too, right?
Starting point is 01:43:15 Yeah, he's already gone. Yeah. First round draft pick. Home run, guaranteed. Look at the stats on that. Not. They did not have a number two wide receiver this year. They were in some trouble there.
Starting point is 01:43:25 Yeah, because they lost tight end John. Yeah, and Corey Davis went to Jets. Well, I'll tell you about the Jets quietly. You know, if you talk to any Jets fan.
Starting point is 01:43:35 Building a contact. They're building something. Massive. You want to have a moment of silence for Jets? Stinking? AJ? Because that whole season
Starting point is 01:43:42 might be over. I don't know if they're going to stink. I have faith in Zach Wilson. And? Well, his mom has taken a step back from public life, right? I believe his mom
Starting point is 01:43:54 has taken a step back. Okay, the bright lights on. She's focusing on the game. She knows it's all about the ball. That's right. She should have won a woman's show on Broadway. We call it Live from the Shadows of New York City. Yeah. That's a lot easier over there with Spotlight.
Starting point is 01:44:10 You know what I mean? Especially on Broadway. Not just for Zach, by the way, who's out there slamming. His friends are slamming beers at the Islanders games in the Coliseum. I like Zach. Because remember, there was the picture thing. Oh, yeah. That was at the draft.
Starting point is 01:44:24 It looked like he had never been outside of Utah before. And then he's – oh, yeah. Oh, no. Oh, no. And then, you know, Hoover, we thought there's no chance this dude was going to be able to survive outside of the cave he's been hibernating in. And he's out there at the Islanders games just – they're shotgun and say, hey, welcome to the world, by the way. Yeah. Here we go. We're back. He's out there at the Islanders games. They're shotgun and say, hey, welcome to the world, by the way. Here we go. He's in there.
Starting point is 01:44:50 They're winning out there. Bob Sala, I think, was at the game, too. Here we go. Are football players most talented drinkers of all sports? Those hockey guys get after. I think rugby guys get after pretty heavily. Baseball. I don't know about baseball. Baseball guys can drink.
Starting point is 01:45:05 I was with old buddy. Tony La Russa's been doing it a long time. Shout out Tony. Who was that guy? Was it Bobblehead Knight? AJ Burnett. I don't know if it was him though. That's a legend. I'm not sure. But he did start hours after me and him.
Starting point is 01:45:21 Toast in the Pittsburgh. What a night. There's a story of Wade Boggs drinking like 65 beers on a cross-country flight. David Wells. No hitter. On acid. Right?
Starting point is 01:45:35 His eyes were bloodshot red. He's like, I can barely see. That's awesome. LeBron made a game winner. He couldn't see either, too. Who's the acid I can barely see. That's awesome. LeBron made a game winner. He couldn't see either, too. True. Maybe he's just poking the eye. Who's the acid guy?
Starting point is 01:45:48 Doc Ellis. Love that. He's great. But I think hockey players get after it, too, I'd assume. I've seen Lord Stanley Cup in Pittsburgh a lot. You know, a lot more than. Same with us. Every city in here, actually. No, we actually have.
Starting point is 01:46:02 We're tied. Since my existence? Since your existence? Yeah, we're tied. I don't think so, pal. No, we're tied. Since my existence? Since your existence? Yeah, we're tied. I don't think so, pal. That is not the case. In my lifetime, down there, south side of Pittsburgh, I have seen
Starting point is 01:46:13 Lord Stanley more than any motherfucker on earth. Those hockey guys get after it. I think they are a party community as well. They go hard. NBA guys, are they even able to yeah they go out there to wine they're like sophisticated drinkers true they get after it there's been some stories actually about the celtics and the brooklyn
Starting point is 01:46:34 nets partying together during this last little uh finals this last little series in the first round really oh yeah that's right i didn't know they're friends with people oh yeah allegedly kairi and some of the celtics players they played around 18, went out, played their game. Then they had the elimination game. The Celtics stayed behind, partied with the Nets after they lost. It sounds like Celtics fans are a little pissed off about potentially being off the course. You know, if the coach is getting fired or moving up and everything's changing. I mean, there's got to be something there, right? Okay.
Starting point is 01:47:06 There's got to be. Wow. Basketball players have all the power. You can't tell a basketball player what to do. Yeah, because there's only a certain amount of 6'9", incredibly athletic, talented dudes out there, and they need them. They know it. We know the Aussie Rules football guys.
Starting point is 01:47:24 They get after it every day of the week. They know it. We know the Aussie Rules football guys. They come after you every day of the week. Professional wrestlers. Yeah. Their stories of professional wrestlers being like rock stars on this because they have to travel and then they just go ahead and shut it down.
Starting point is 01:47:40 Travel. Beat the shit out of their body. Shut it down. Travel like five, six nights, rolling into like 120, 300 nights a year. That's unbelievable. Yeah. If you count that in the same vein, I think you should, by the way.
Starting point is 01:47:54 Absolutely. I couldn't have done that, dude. One hangover takes me out, one match almost killed me. They were doing it every night. I don't know how they did it. I don't know how they did it. It's different now, right?
Starting point is 01:48:02 That doesn't seem like it's the same thing going on. Yeah, science and cell phones, you know, two things really changed, I think, the way everything kind of operates. You know, like, what you're doing to your body is scientifically terrible. Okay, so don't do it. And also, everybody's going to see everything you're about to do. Are you cool with that? Is that good with you? No, okay, just what I thought.
Starting point is 01:48:22 So go into your house, play some fucking video games. It's kind of what it's all become you know yeah unfortunately yeah they have to hide these young guys like zion what he tried to shoot his shot at one girl oh yeah at duke and she just exposed him i was like this guy he's not gonna trust anybody for the rest of his life can't literally the whole thing arch manning yeah i mean's not going to be able to do anything since the day he was born as Arch Manning. But now with these ball flips, mid-pump fake, dude. That's unbelievable. Trevor Lawrence, same thing.
Starting point is 01:48:54 I don't know how. I mean, Luck, right? Andrew Luck. Did Luck go through that? I think he was pre. A little before, yeah. Like his whole life was not being tracked. Now everybody's tracked for everything.
Starting point is 01:49:04 It's crazy. It's a crazy time to be somebody, I guess. Is it? Uh-huh. It's a crazy time to be a cicada, too. That's something, bitch. Man. Those things are just in their little fucking holes.
Starting point is 01:49:15 You know what I mean? They're little lean-tos. So how long do they live when they come out? No, we don't know. Everybody's saying four to six weeks, all summer. But who the fuck knows? These things could have transformed in 17 years. couldn't there have been some evolution underground with these sons of bitches that they aren't the same cicadas they were 17 years maybe we don't know
Starting point is 01:49:31 that's what the scientists will say afterwards so it turns out this somehow was a different soiled cicada that came out oh okay but next in 17 years from now we'll be able to give you a little bit better description what's going to go on. Because was I told? It was a celebration. These fucking catas were coming out. I saw it on local news. Yeah. Hey, look for it.
Starting point is 01:49:50 Look for it. Hey, I'm not looking for anything. I can hear them coming. All right? Sure. They're like, first time in 17 years these things are coming to ground. Who's celebrating these catas? Local news.
Starting point is 01:50:00 Before it happened. Before it happened. Big insect. It was like, hey, they're coming back. Watch out. 17 years. It was like, did anybody say? Like, hey, let's call it. It was like, hey, they're coming back. 17 years. It was like, did anybody say...
Starting point is 01:50:06 Let's call it. Yeah. See, I think that's horse shit. Yeah. They say 17 years. I swear to God, there were cicadas seven years ago or so.
Starting point is 01:50:16 And they're just saying, oh, yeah, 17 years. They're agreed. It's so damn loud. I mean, it's ridiculous. It's a different variant. They'll be here until September. What is this, the brood?
Starting point is 01:50:23 We heard four to six weeks last summer, too. Ah, well, we heard two this, the brood? We heard four to six weeks last summer, too. Well, we heard two initially, but then it did go to four to six. Yeah, you're right. Oh, there's a parade in Baltimore for cicadas. Shut it down. I'm going to use that Friday night Smackdown. Baltimore's having parades for cicadas,
Starting point is 01:50:41 so let's not assume that everybody's making smart fucking decisions. Probably Jimmy's seafood fault. is jimmy's famous that place is awesome the food is so good delicious ownership good dudes great great guys great conversation but they continue to just push these things. Now they're having parades for cicadas? Unbelievable. Can't hear it out, Jimmy. They even dress them up, too.
Starting point is 01:51:12 Best crab cakes I've ever had in my life. Far none. Yeah, by far. They ship them, by the way, I think across the entire country. They show up somehow fresher than they are. Whenever they leave, Jimmy's famous. Just as good. But these goddamn parades
Starting point is 01:51:26 for cicadas get over. Can't thank you enough for choosing to listen to this show. The fact you allow us to penetrate your ear holes, I am very grateful for. Very grateful. What a life, dude, huh?
Starting point is 01:51:41 Thankful in the sports world some stuff happened. Thankful, you know, for everything going on. Not thankful for Julia not being a cult though as that was abundantly clear today what's next now aaron rogers news is he going to report to mandatory camp tomorrow oh no will he or won't he a lot to talk about plus some interviews can't thank you enough be a friend tell a friend ty please play some independent music and propel these people into a beautiful monday evening Thank you. In someone else, ayy In someone else In someone else, ayy Thank you. Thank you. you

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