The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 435 - David Bakhtiari, Dan Orlovsky, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: June 14, 2021

On today's show, Pat and the boys chat about the newest comments made by Mark Murphy in the Aaron Rodgers saga, the Euros and the scary scene with Christian Eriksen, the NBA playoffs and the Suns in 4... guy who dropped a couple of Nuggets fans, and everything else going on in the sports world. Joining Pat and AJ Hawk is 5x All-Pro, 3x Pro Bowler, and the highest paid Tackle in the NFL, David Bakhtiari to chat about his rehab, getting alpha'd by a couple of high school offensive lineman, his thoughts on the Aaron Rodgers situation, and more (42:45-51:25). Also joining the program to talk about the Packers Front Office vs. Aaron Rodgers, how he thinks that's going to play out, his expectation for the Packers if Rodgers isn't there, who he expects to be a Super Bowl contender this year, and which rookie quarterback's are going to make an impact this year (24:47-42:43). Later, Pat and AJ chat about all the different news going on in the NFL, some of their old college workouts, some issues with the Jeep with a Hemi, and much more (51:30-1:35:06). Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow and listen every day on Mad Dog Radio, Sirius XM Channel 82. We appreciate you all for listening, come and laugh with us, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 hello it is monday june 14th 2021 a lot of conversations to be had dane or schlopsky stops by absolutely love that guy obviously can't wait for you to hear the conversation we had with him he made some declarations we didn't necessarily understand but he's done his research so there's a reason behind it aj hawk obviously uh david bakhtiari the boys i mean let's have a monday be a friend tell a friend if by the end of this you like this show if not just act like it never happened all right let's get to it how about soccer maybe being the lead off here here we go this is not it yeah your mic's off your mic's off yeah uh how about soccer potentially being the lead off in this entire thing because this weekend there was soccer teams from all over europe and russia uh playing in a in a tournament that i did not know existed until very very recent
Starting point is 00:00:55 here and if you watch the games this weekend you found out oh you don't give a fuck about this that is probably how a lot of us felt that are listening to this show. That is how a lot of us felt, I think, in here. I tried to watch. I tried to be invested. I tried my best to learn about the world's game, but it was just very difficult to care about any of those games, knowing that
Starting point is 00:01:17 the team that I'm ultimately pulling for in the end, the United States, can never win that. Now, if they would have allowed okay the conca calf nations champion here we go also known as the united states of america to play in an exemption for a representative of the conca calf then i think there would be or maybe if there was even i think then i would think you know what i care about this. It was tough for me to get invested in it. But when that incident happened on Saturday morning, it was almost like a perspective
Starting point is 00:01:50 putter for everybody. I started thinking to myself, if Christian Erickson, a man who had a cardiac arrest on the field while the ball was getting thrown, as he was was touching the ball he passed it back full collapse full cardiac arrest right on tv then all of a sudden you have full panic then these these i don't know if they're paramedics i don't know if they were doctors i don't know if there were nurses i'm not exactly sure who they were they immediately start doing cpr live on the field right in front of everybody i would assume that there was millions of people watching around the globe, I'd assume, especially in Europe, watching that whole thing take place.
Starting point is 00:02:29 We were watching it here in the United States on NBC. Then the people in the stadium. It was a scene that I, honestly, one of the scariest things I've ever seen in my entire life. You're watching this man who is, in your eyes, in my eyes, as somebody who played soccer growing up. He had to be in peak human performance to play soccer. That is a marathon.
Starting point is 00:02:51 That is an absolute problem. I mean, that is something that is this one on. That is something that that sport is not only predicated upon being smart and having, you know, the wits of understanding the strategy and everything like that of soccer. But you also have to have the conditioning of a marathon runner. You have to train basically every single day all year round. Their seasons are incredibly long, especially for him who plays on Inter Milan. who plays on Inter Milan. Then you see something like that happen,
Starting point is 00:03:26 a scary scene where somehow he ends up in stable condition just like 11 to 12 minutes later when they get him into an ambulance and get him to a hospital. There's a shot of him going into the ambulance where his eyes are alert. And my first thought was like, man, that was like 10 minutes long. It started at like 46 minutes on the clock,
Starting point is 00:03:40 which never stopped. By the way, neither did the broadcast, which I'm assuming there's going to be a lot of people that are going to have to answer some questions yeah for sure because as i was watching at home alongside my wife who actually i was i think i had went back to the bedroom to grab something and she like called she was like pat and i came out she was one so we just sat there for what that was like seven eight minutes of just like almost silence. The commentators were trying to put a perspective on it. Then you started seeing his wife was down there, the goalie running back and forth, coach running back and forth, teammates crying. And it was like, at what point do you think you send this back to the studio? Right? I, I, that's what I think I was thinking watching at home. But in this particular case I mean I guess hindsight's always 2020 and we all assume the absolute worst but the incredible work by the medical professionals
Starting point is 00:04:31 I have no idea how they were able to do that I am bravo hell of a job amazing work by the responders there that that took off and did that and I I guess hindsight, since they did show us all that, I think it gives us a much better perspective and think, you know, like in admiration of the medical people that see that whole thing, because we watched a guy that was dead and then they say he was gone. Yeah, he was dead and they brought him back to life. So I guess we got a chance to witness something that potentially happens
Starting point is 00:05:03 sometimes in hospitals behind closed doors But man if that guy ends up dying in the long run, which is incredibly sad Christian Erickson obviously that the people that were covering that we watched somebody's last I mean, it's just that was a Wild situation. I thought they were gonna go to studio a lot quicker than they did then you waif obviously Suspending the match and bringing the match back. That's a whole thing now because they end up losing.
Starting point is 00:05:28 I mean, it is. And by the way, this guy was like a stud player for them. Oh, yeah. This was a guy guy. I texted Gumby. I was like, hey, who is this? He's like, yeah, he used to play here.
Starting point is 00:05:35 Now he plays at Inter. I'm like, damn, how the hell does this happen? Happy he's okay. But that was the big, that was a crazy moment in my sports watching life did you guys get to see it i assume yeah for sure i don't know i can't remember if it was on the like espn copy
Starting point is 00:05:51 or if maybe it was a tweet i saw from just like the stadium or i'm pretty sure they showed them like hitting me absolutely that was what brought him back to life right right paddles but when i saw that i was like holy shit like i was trying to think if i if we'd ever seen anything like similar to this and like any sporting event and most of the time you know it's just like a guy with like a gruesome injury or something like that i was trying to think football but the cramp i guess would be yeah uh-huh the the tony romo the the which by the way it has to be very hard to talk over the those gruesome injuries it's always like bone or something like that like skin blood bone oh my god that surgery is going to be crazy whenever it's like oh hey this guy could die
Starting point is 00:06:32 this is it right here my dad played in a um i forget what age i was over 30 league or over 40 league or something like that and i did not go to the game i usually went to every single one of his games i did not go to this game for whatever usually went to every single one of his games. I did not go to this game for whatever reason. Happened, and I'm very happy I wasn't there. I'd assume that would be a traumatizing thing, especially there. I mean, very, very fortunate that he was in the presence of whoever the fuck saved his life there. Whoever that was, incredible job.
Starting point is 00:06:59 But man, what a perspective. That could happen to Christian Erickson. I mean, it's happy he's all right, man. That's a wild, wild weekend. Then after that, hearing he's okay, good news. Let's go ahead. Hopefully he'll be able to regain everything. Because with that amount of time, with an absence of air flow,
Starting point is 00:07:17 I wonder what potentially happens, you know? That's kind of. But they were pressing, I guess, for the whole time. Ah, man, I don't know enough about medical. All I do know is I said, holy shit, is this happening? I thought it was almost like a, I don't want to say outer body. It just didn't feel real. Instead of just learning this tournament, I just found out it's a massive deal.
Starting point is 00:07:37 Then, bang, I'm watching. It's like, oh, my God, here we go. But then after we find out he's okay, the day moves along. Then what time is it? It's fucking Nate Diaz. then what time is it it's fucking Nate Diaz yeah hey it is Nate Diaz I'm now I know there were other fights okay and there was the stars were in abundance a lot of you know I mean the stars were out there it was a hell of a show okay I didn't catch a lot of the fights leading up to Nate Diaz or many afterwards but
Starting point is 00:08:02 going into you know watching clips on the internet and seeing everybody that was there and the moments and the lead up and Biebs showing up alongside Austin Matthews. Shout out to SportsCenter, you know, on the internet, clipping out the athlete in the photo and putting Biebs in there. By the way, Biebs moves the needle. That's Biebs. I don't know if you saw where Dana White put Biebs. Hard side camera on the opposite.
Starting point is 00:08:26 To give him a little space so he can lean forward too. Incredibly interested in what was going on, by the way. And obviously, he's the needle mover. Then you had the Fertitta guy who sold the company, by the way. The original owner of UFC who's sitting there cage side. And you know it's the first five-round non-championship or non-title fight the UFC's ever had for Nate Diaz. And it starts out, you know, it's the first five-round non-championship or non-title fight the UFC's ever had for Nate Diaz. And it starts out, you know, and Nate Diaz comes out, and I'm like, okay, here we go.
Starting point is 00:08:51 This is our guy. This is it. Place goes apeshit for him. That has to be a feeling that is pretty cool. You're walking out to fight another human. That's a gladiator experience. This is like the actual gladiator. And that entire place in Arizona was on his side.
Starting point is 00:09:06 I mean, the entire place. And then old buddy Leon comes out or whatever. He gets booed. I was like, okay. I wonder if he knew he was going to be the heel. He was very, very, didn't really let it affect him. Didn't play into it much, was in there. But when Nate starts fighting and bending over in front of him
Starting point is 00:09:22 and doing all this, and you got Rogan going crazy. No, this is a part of his strategy, by the way. He is trying to fuck with this guy. I'm like, this is why Nate is the man. Like, you forget about these things after watching so many of these UFC events when a Diaz brother's not fighting. You forget that that is their actual style. Like, hey, fuck you.
Starting point is 00:09:40 They are actually, you know, black belt jiu-jitsu trained incredible athlete fighters that are like street style fighters. And I absolutely love everything about it. He gets into the third round, okay. Felt like he was just trying to make it to the fourth round maybe because I thought somebody might have had a bet or something. Was there an over-under on it? He gets then into the fifth round. It's like, okay, here's Nate Diaz time. And I don't know if old buddy fully
Starting point is 00:10:05 respected it that entire time. Diaz had his ass out. That guy was out with like 48 seconds left. I don't know why he didn't. You know what I mean? I think he tried afterwards, but I think even he was incredibly tired with his incredible cardio and conditioning and he smokes.
Starting point is 00:10:22 Guy's a fucking hero. He's a fucking hero. He's a fucking hero. I think he could have had him. I honestly think he pointed at him and the guy, the camera Hey, scar tissue. He's got so much built up scar tissue from all the fights. He bleeds a lot of blood. That held true. There was a lot of blood.
Starting point is 00:10:39 They were zooming in on old buddy's face. He was out. I think all Diaz had to do was literally just give him a little shove at that one time. I wonder if, you know, when you're 24 minutes into a fight, if that isn't as noticeable as maybe when you zoom in on 4K. Right. When you zoom in on 4K. There's a lot of people tweeting like, oh, it was a work.
Starting point is 00:10:58 He didn't want to beat him. He just wanted to put on a show, blah, blah. There's people tweeting that. He didn't do that. It was like, maybe he's 24 minutes into the fight. And he's like, yeah. I think he's out. I think he's out there. It was an amazing show. I loved it.
Starting point is 00:11:12 And then I went to bed immediately after that. Congrats to Stylebender. Of course. Vittori. Marvin Vittori. That winner. He's who fought Stylebender. Brandon Moreno. Okay, that winner. No, he's who fought style better. Brandon Moreno.
Starting point is 00:11:26 Moreno, yeah. Moreno, champion. Okay, congrats to him. And he beat up that other guy. Oh, yeah. He beat up that other guy. Figaro. Figaro Henry, right?
Starting point is 00:11:38 Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Figaro. Yeah. Even if Diaz didn't want to win, though, isn't that what makes him so awesome? Is that he's just in there to put on a show and fucking point at people after he knocks them out? Well, then he also gave away his home address. So he's having a house party.
Starting point is 00:11:54 Come on over to our house. And then I think he was trying to get a shout out to a sponsor or a business there at the end. He got it, by the way. He goes over, he talks again, the camera was off. Which I wonder if that was going to be maybe a a plug for his bud or something like that because you know i mean after you fight for 25 minutes i'd assume it's difficult to get a shirt off yeah what a legend man love that guy by the way and then he was asked about what strand of weed he was smoking and he said it is an indica but i like i'll smoke yeah big fan of that
Starting point is 00:12:26 uh shout out to him then obviously on sunday there's some golf happening there's some life happening uh there was an indycar race there was a tennis joker yeah joker big win over in paris there in tennis he had it with that greek fellow though hey he had it all i mean that went to extra innings oh yeah that thing goes to extra innings almost goes into even more you know what i mean almost sudden death ot was happening at one point joker is uh incredibly talented i like how emotional he is i like that he you know has a little bit of like competitive juices oh yeah i like that a lot now i assume he is considered to be a bit brash and maybe insufferable by some in the tennis community. Yeah, I think there's probably a lot of people who don't like him.
Starting point is 00:13:09 I enjoy whenever somebody goes into one of those yuppie worlds and is just completely a maniac. I think that's why people like McEnroe. If you think back to when Tiger went into the golf world, that was a super, hey, how you doing, how you doing, how you doing, keep it moving type sport. And Tiger comes in and is like, yeah, fuck you no i'm trying to win every single one we got here like i i enjoy like when competitive juices start popping off in situations that are competitive
Starting point is 00:13:34 that have to get buried by people though it seems like some of those sports they're like hey that's not hey it's always like act like you've been there act like you've been there act like you've been there it's like well what if my natural reaction is to be like, yeah, I haven't been here. Hey, I'm pumped. Hey, I might have been here before, but I may never be here again. Let's go ahead and enjoy this thing. You know, I like that with the way he handles some shit. Well, and he is one of those guys who can say, well, not many people have been where I'm at.
Starting point is 00:13:58 I think he won his 19th Grand Slam. And I think we were talking about this a couple weeks ago, but, like, top-tier tennis, like very, very competitive tennis, is one of the most fun things to watch. Champion, when it matters. Yeah, exactly. That's what I'm saying. Like, days like yesterday where it's, like, the sets, like, every point is just long volley.
Starting point is 00:14:19 It was awesome. I was trying my best because it keeps score just like baseball. Oh, yeah. You know, so I seen it on the TV. They're going a little bit long. I didn't remember what it was. They got the deuce there, though. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:29 In that extra set to win that whole thing. Joe Caputo, not today. You're not going to have your little fairytale night against me. No. Cipitas. Was that his name? Cipitas. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:40 Cipitas. Cipitas. Cipitas. Cipitas. I became a fan of him. He's young, too. Yeah, I became a fan of him in that match or whatever but
Starting point is 00:14:46 and I thought to myself there was a moment where old Joker Tsitsipas is that his name? Tsitsipas I believe that is how you pronounce it
Starting point is 00:14:55 I'm trying my best I see it on the screen I didn't know how to pronounce it when it was on the screen I didn't have sound on so I so I'm trying to sound it out but it is a Greek last name
Starting point is 00:15:03 I apologize representing Gristo there was a moment where they were in extra sets have sound on so i so i'm trying to sound it out but it is a greek last name i apologize representing uh gristo there was a moment where they were in extra sets and it was getting pretty close there and i think it could have turned for him like he could have potentially went on the way he had this moment where he did like this nice deep breath it was like a and i i like i would like to know what he was thinking in that moment you know Because I assume he was thinking to himself, I've worked my entire fucking life. I'm playing against Joker right now in the championship of whatever the fuck it's called.
Starting point is 00:15:33 That was a cool moment for me, looking at the athlete inside. There was a full, deep, deep inhale. It was like, yeah, you've been here before? No, you haven't, actually. No, you have not. This is Joe. You thought you were here.
Starting point is 00:15:46 Ah, fuck it. Like, I really, I enjoyed that moment. It was cool competition to watch. Whenever you say, like, high-level tennis is cool to watch, if it matters. You know, that's, like, my thought with this Euro is, like, I assume this is good soccer. A lot of the teams I watched this weekend as Euros, I think our United States team, the Concacaf champs could go walk in there and just fucking have their way
Starting point is 00:16:07 by the way. Which makes me feel even better about the World Cup that's coming up. Hey, hate to break it to you, Europe. Hate to break it. We learned the game. We learned how to play the game. We got the guys. Okay, we got to send our guys over to your towns. Alright, we send them over to your towns. You guys
Starting point is 00:16:23 just kind of give them the game and then they're coming back and they're teaching everybody else. Shout out to Rain towns. We send them over to your towns. You guys just kind of give them the game. And then they're coming back and they're teaching everybody else. Shout out to Reina. Shout out to Pulisic. Shout out to the World Cup champs on the air whenever the fuck the World Cup is in a year or two, three, whatever it is. You mentioned them going over and playing. I mean, don't do that. We won the CONCACAF.
Starting point is 00:16:42 Let's get the winner. Let's get the winner of the Euros, and then we'll play that team. Hey, you know what? You're right. Yeah. Because this was the first time the CONCACAF ever happened. Yeah, right. Some are saying CONCACAF, but then you're leaving out a certain, at least Caribbean, I think you're also leaving out there, which is a little bit rude. But what if the CONCACAF is the premier title? What if the United States goes on to win the World Cup and all of a sudden the CONCACAF is now the league that homes the World Cup champion? Boom.
Starting point is 00:17:12 What do we do now? Do you guys potentially, you know, is it like a Champions League thing where you guys are competing? Top four can come play against the CONCACAF World Cup champion league? That's a good idea. I mean, maybe. I'm just spitballing here. This could happen.
Starting point is 00:17:23 So maybe invite us to the Euros earlier. You know what I mean? So we don't have to do that type of stuff. You idea. I mean, maybe. I'm just spitballing here. This could happen. So maybe invite us to the Euros earlier. You know what I mean? So we don't have to do that type of stuff. You know what I mean? We can kind of bring this whole thing together. But until the United States of America, which is its own continent, is part of the Euros, it's going to be hard for me to be invested. Well, like we said, too.
Starting point is 00:17:40 I mean, listen, the CONCACAF is the second most prestigious tournament in the world after the world cup yeah gumpy's been out here trying to sell us a bag of goods on these euros i mean hey it was it was tough to watch and they gave multiple 9 at 9 a.m 12 p.m 3 i mean you had multiple opportunities okay hey maybe maybe we got some guys in this one hey you know what i learned though with that type of booking you, with that type of booking? You know, with that type of booking or whatever. Like the NFL, when they have that morning game, I'm going to watch it because it's the NFL.
Starting point is 00:18:11 Right. Okay, so I'm just going to watch it because it's the NFL. But I can see how a casual fan, that morning game, if it's not a good game, guess what? They're gone and they're like, okay, when's the next games? Next games are at 1. All right, cool, I'm going to go do my shit. I'll be back at 1.
Starting point is 00:18:24 And then at 1, there's like 17 games. There isn't. There isn't. But there is you. you you get it there's a lot of games at one then at four there's a plethora and then you know the sunday night football primetime game you're hoping is going to be a good game so that's kind of you know when we do the setup on our thing the issue with it is just like the casuals have with the nfl with the morning game if i if i peek into one of these zeros games, and I don't even know what the countries are when I just see the little – I don't know who – and I don't know a single player on any of these, and it's 0-0. I mean, there's a good chance.
Starting point is 00:18:55 I'm like, all right, when's that next game up? Three hours from now? All right. Sounds good. Maybe I'll come back. Croatia's playing? Sounds good. All right, I'll check in on the Croatians here.
Starting point is 00:19:03 Then you go back over there, and it's like 1-0 or whatever. I don't know how you use people. This game's over. I already missed the goal. I already missed the goal. I missed the whole thing. I showed up at the gas station and the winning scratch-off was already sold. There ain't no winners here.
Starting point is 00:19:18 I'm just buying it. That's basically what you feel like when you're watching this game. And then you get, maybe even you watch 20, 30 minutes. It's like, what am I fucking doing? What's going on here? Why am I, why am I doing this? That's kind of how I felt all weekend. I think, though, when it gets to, like, the quarterfinals, semifinals,
Starting point is 00:19:35 I think I'll get, I'll be invested then. You know, like, whenever it's a semifinal of this Euros. Yes. You know, maybe if England's playing, you know, since I watched the crown, I feel like I know a little bit about what's going on. The Lions. Yeah, exactly. And by the way, I heard there's a little dissension
Starting point is 00:19:54 among the ranks in the French squad. Yeah, not good. Heard the French teams potentially in disarray. They were the favorite to win the whole thing. And then Belgium came through. Hey, good team, that Belgium team. They show up. Hey, good team, that Belgium team. Hey, until they show up. Hey, when we get to the Euro football playoffs,
Starting point is 00:20:11 hey, when we get to the quarterfinal or whatever, that's when I'm going to pay attention to that. Okay. I don't know if there's any feeling that can equate to when you're watching a soccer game and you get up and you're not watching and they score a goal. That is the – it completely takes the air out of your sails. You can't watch it anymore.
Starting point is 00:20:29 I waited 49 straight minutes. And what do you do? Fucking knock one in? What a joke, dude. I'm taking a dump. Are you kidding me? I was forced to go to the bathroom because you guys were playing so long. You decided to make this thing go 50 minutes in the first half
Starting point is 00:20:50 because there's five minutes of extra time or whatever, and now I go poop or pee and you guys decide to make something happen. Now you're right. I mean, now everybody just DVRs goes back. Not me. I got to watch it in real time. And a big issue I'm having is that moment that you missed, you know, because you were taking a dump.
Starting point is 00:21:07 I probably saw it before you on my Twitter timeline. Yeah. You know, and I probably saw that goal happen, and guess what I didn't have to do? Watch 48 minutes of action. Bingo. It's the worst part. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:18 You know what, though? If the United States was playing, I'd watch that thing. 100%. We need a team to win, like, seven or eight nothing, too. Like, I feel like that like with like the women's world cup like every once in a while i'll be like oh yeah i'll watch the women's uh the u.s team like we're gonna beat someone 15 to one today like that's fun to watch well and also by the way if you if you see a team hanging eight on someone nine you're like okay
Starting point is 00:21:40 this is my new favorite team right i'm regassing regassing now. This is my team. Okay, so when they're playing, there's a chance this is going to happen. A lot of people are probably calling us just ignorant, though, I assume right now for the way we're speaking about the World's Game. I'm sorry. It's the truth. Hey, we might be in the minority of thinking about the sport, but just know that this opinion does exist out there. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:03 Right now it's happening in this room. Pretty correct. That was tough to watch, yeah. Right now it's happening in this room. Pretty correct. That was tough to watch, dude. I wanted to so bad. Joining us now, though, to talk about some other big news that happened this weekend, especially in our world. Now, I took every minute I possibly could not to talk about something because I said to myself and to the team on Friday,
Starting point is 00:22:21 I'm not talking about Aaron Rodgers until something happens. I literally said, I said, listen, I'm not doing it anymore. I'm sick of it. Rodgers until something happens. He said that. I say, listen, I'm not doing it anymore. I'm sick of it. I'm done with it. Nothing new is happening. Recycled information is now becoming breaking news yet again. I think at this point, we're done with it.
Starting point is 00:22:35 Dan Mark Murphy has to go do a stand-up set. Yeah, right. Okay, has to go do a stand-up set and says, you know, as Greg Thompson once said, Aaron Rodgers is the worst. He didn't say that exactly, but I mean, for a guy who's a president of a billion-dollar, multi-billion-dollar operation that is publicly funded, basically, I mean, the lack of being able to read a room by calling Aaron a complicated fellow, which, by the way, I'm not saying that's a massive, I'm not saying that's like a haymaker shot.
Starting point is 00:23:06 No. But just in the world that we're in, we're trying to get a fucking resolution to this situation. We are, as a show, NFL fans are, as a whole. Other teams are probably trying to figure out, can we get Aaron Rodgers or can we not get Aaron Rodgers? Then I guess there are some teams that are like, we don't want Aaron to control the narrative,
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Starting point is 00:24:51 but to hopefully explain to us how and why this whole thing happened, like he does every single day, every single night on ESPN, Dana Schloss. What's up, boys? What's going on? What are you doing, man? You've been on vacation for like two, three months. Haven't seen him on TV forever. What have you been up to? I was on TV four days ago.
Starting point is 00:25:13 I'm on TV two days, so that's a completely false statement. I've been chilling, just hanging some family time, coaching my kids in lacrosse and baseball, cussing them out when they don't do the things I want. So it's been good. Hey, listen, you need to fudge and throw the twine a little bit harder.
Starting point is 00:25:31 So what you say over there in lacrosse practice, you need Uncle Pat to come in. I've been learning a lot about the old total sticks. I actually just got done dropping off lacrosse shirts to this team while the kids are at school. My son is obsessed with the sport man obsessed so hey sport of the future sport of the future i think it's gonna happen come if you can come coach him you're hired well we'll see how the schedule works i'm saying that hopefully that you
Starting point is 00:25:57 were saying no because i know nothing about the sport but i appreciate you being a good dad good dad out there dano especially in the middle of everything else you got going on, like being the expert on all things quarterbacks in the world of ESPN and the NFL world. Dan, the Mark Murphy thing. Me thinks, okay. Your tweet, man. Me thinks, okay, very similar to how you think right now i think how do you view this whole
Starting point is 00:26:28 thing with aaron and mark at this point and everybody keeps saying good to goons good to goods and we was hey there's a couple people i think that we're potentially leaving out in this whole how everything gets handled situation what are your thoughts dan how does this end you think yeah over the weekend my brain kept going to Jim Harbaugh and I remember like Jim Harbaugh the head coach of the 49ers when they had their four-year run or five-year run where they were unbelievable and he was with cap and you know they went to a couple NFC championship games and obviously a Super Bowl and then I remember like them you know there was the reports that the 49ers wanted to move on from Harbaugh and I just remember going back and thinking I was like
Starting point is 00:27:04 why would you want to move on from a coach that's been that good? And everyone was like, well, he's really hard to deal with. Or they, people don't get along with them or this and that. And that's all my brain went to this week, this weekend with Mark Murphy,
Starting point is 00:27:15 making him his comments. Because first of all, to say that Aaron is a complicated fella, let's break that down. So you mean to tell me that the guy that was overlooked in high school recruiting, then the guy that was overlooked after he went to Juco College, then the guy that was overlooked in college, then the guy that was overlooked in the NFL draft, he's got a little bit of stuff to him that you don't like now that he's gotten an incredible amount of no duh no do it
Starting point is 00:27:45 dude like you don't you don't do all of that unless you are that is wired very very very uniquely and i know a lot of people that aren't complicated i was one of them that was that's why i was a backup for 12 years like that's just the truth of it and so it seems and it sounds like the packers front office can tell us everything that we want to hear about we want to do everything we can to bring aaron rogers back and we're going to attack it every single day no you're not you're you're not you're not dude because you whether you consider complicated fella to have a negative connotation or not it's not a positive one yeah it's not uplifting like you know like hey we need this guy back because he's our super bowl caliber quarterback so i just think that the front office is done i just think the front office
Starting point is 00:28:36 doesn't want aaron rogers around anymore just as much as it sounds aaron doesn't want to be there to follow up on your complicated point you know to be a human that has accomplished what he has and basically amongst all football people the most talented quarterback in the history of football he's an alien he's unique if you could consider uh how he got there or how he became him that guy that one of the goats like i guess that could be complicated because if we could figure that out i guess we'd put it in a bottle we'd put it in a bottle and we would just go ahead and give it to everybody but whenever you do say stuff like that and you do think like oh this and uh you know this is a he didn't say it it kind of got taken out of context but as soon as he said it he knew it was
Starting point is 00:29:19 going to get taken out of context especially in the position he's at where it's like this aaron situation is you know splitting our fan base or whatever and then now with position he's at where it's like this aaron situation is you know splitting our fan base or whatever and then now with the he's a complicated fella it's like he's doing this on purpose he has to if not he shouldn't be yeah this guy's the president of the green bay packers i know because of my past with the broadcast boot camp that I did, that those people that are in those prominent roles constantly get public speaking coaching. You know, like the way to speak to certain groups, things to focus on.
Starting point is 00:29:54 Like those guys, they've been publicly speaking for two decades. He knows exactly what he's doing. That wasn't a slip-up, nor was the division of the fan base a slip-up. He's exactly what he's doing. That wasn't a slip up, nor was the division of the fan base a slip up. He's being very tactical, just like Aaron is very smart with the way that he comes out and says things. Mark Murphy's trying to be just as smart with the way he is saying things. And all I know is this, dude, at the end of the day, you alienating your quarterback, now having his teammates completely go out and publicly support him, it does absolutely nothing to benefit your organization or address the potential of him coming back.
Starting point is 00:30:34 Are we too late now, though? What do we think? Because everybody, it depends on the day on who's reporting what, to be honest. You know, Aaron Rodgers is strong as hell in how he feels and then the next day it's like they're not gonna trade them so then next day it's like they should uh have a year where they just say hey one more year one more time and then that'll set us up that sets you up that whole thing and now it's at this point how do you see them coming to an arrangement i i don't know.
Starting point is 00:31:05 And we're getting close here now. Not soon enough. The season doesn't start soon enough, but it starts soon. I mean, there is – you know what I mean? How does this end, you think, Dan? Yeah, I said this last week. Like at some point, when does Green Bay focus on football? Because they're the only team in the NFL that hasn't had the opportunity
Starting point is 00:31:21 to focus on football. I think the only way that Aaron goes back, there's two ways that I think Aaron, because my mind has changed a little bit now that we've got to the middle of June. There's two ways that my mind sits there and says, Aaron plays for the Packers this year. He just doesn't want to give up $30-plus million by sitting out. You know, like he just – and I don't know where he is with that or if it's not something he would do, but if he doesn't want to do that, that's obvious.
Starting point is 00:31:46 Or two, and I kind of talked about this a couple weeks ago, his agent David Dunn. Like what happens if his agent David Dunn goes back to Aaron and says, hey, the only team that is going to give up enough that Green Bay is going to consider this trade as the Las Vegas Raiders. Because then Aaron has to, I would imagine, sit back and go, all right, as much as I dislike some of the people that are here, I'm not winning the Super Bowl in the next two or three years with that defense in Las Vegas. So costs above all things, and no matter what the destination is, or does he want to go out to a place that, listen,
Starting point is 00:32:28 he's got a shot to win the Super Bowl, and that's not in Las Vegas. I do think he has it in Denver. So I think those would be the only two ways that Aaron actually goes and says, all right, I'll stick around for another year. Dan, I think a lot of teams would be interested if they find out Aaron's potentially on the move, though, don't you think? Well, again, this goes back to this. Do you have the capital to give it up to Green Bay?
Starting point is 00:32:52 And do you have a young player at the position that you really believe has a super bright future? Because, again, if you're the Cleveland Browns, sure, every team wants Aaron Rodgers. But is it worth giving up those potentially three first round picks and likely moving on from Baker Mayfield? I would say that's a tough pill to swallow if you're Cleveland after finally building it up. The Miami Dolphins, are you going to give up all that and move on from Tua? That's the team that I could sit there and say has a young, promising quarterback, but if you had the chance to give up three ones and move on from Tua. That's the team that I could sit there and say, has a young, promising quarterback, but if you had the chance to give up three ones
Starting point is 00:33:28 and move on from that young quarterback, they should very much so entertain doing it because they're a Super Bowl contender with them. The Denver Broncos are obviously a home run. I think that there's a lot of variables attached to it other than, man, we want Aaron Rodgers.
Starting point is 00:33:43 Did you say Miami Super Bowl? I think any team with Aaron Rodgers as quarterback is in a conversation for winning whatever. Again, I'll go back to the Raiders. Not with that defense. What about Miami? They're a Super Bowl contender with Aaron. Absolutely. Really?
Starting point is 00:34:01 Absolutely. That defense and those weapons offensively that they got, they are a Super Bowl contender with Aaron. People need to start paying more attention to the Dolphins, you think? Because what if Tua you kind of said he stinks, but what if Tua who is at 60%, you kind of said that
Starting point is 00:34:17 what if Tua who is at 60% or whatever last year, if he comes out and has a very, very, very good year you think the Dolphins are going to surprise some people this year? Oh, yeah. I think that's the best division. I think that's one of the top two or three divisions in football.
Starting point is 00:34:33 With that defense, like here's the thing. They got two tight ends that are really good in Miami. They have three offensive linemen that were top four draft picks or four first-round draft picks that all were rookies last year. So, like, that offensive line is going to be massively improved. The addition of Watto, the addition of Will Fuller, will he stay healthy? You know, big question marks. I love their two tight ends. I think they're really well coached. Their defense gives up, I don't know, 17 a game, 20 a game. Like, Tua is fed up to play really, really good football.
Starting point is 00:35:05 The Dolphins should be very good this year. Hey, they got rid of Kyle Van Nooy. They made some changes on that defensive side. I didn't know that it was a this-year type run for the Dolphins. I had not looked into them enough. Hey, good for Gumpy. Hey, go ahead. Fins up.
Starting point is 00:35:19 Hey, fins up, pal. Go ahead, Ty. Dan, given everything with Aaron going going on if he doesn't come back what is a realistic expectation for the packers this year with jordan love i assume you've watched you know more tape on him than most people and i see a lot of people saying that they'll still go to the playoffs if they have jordan love you think that's the case i don't see them as a football team but they're definitely the right situation to break in a young, inexperienced quarterback. Top five offensive line, top five run game, number one receiver, runaway number one,
Starting point is 00:35:53 but one of the best in the league. A couple of good variable pieces in an improving defense and a really good play caller. They're not going to fall off and become a team that wins three or four football games. I think they're a team that probably flirts around 500 or so. What are they? Seven and ten, right? Seven and ten, maybe eight and nine type of football team. I do. I have said this. Jordan Love is the first quarterback since 2005 that was drafted in the first round that didn't start a football game last year so the nor did they even think he was capable ready or good enough to be their backup so the reports of him still struggling with accuracy in training or otas and minicamp like yeah those are concerning to me because it only gets harder. Like I should be accurate when I'm in shorts and can't get hit. Once I know that people can hit me, I play a little bit more like,
Starting point is 00:36:50 uh-oh, I'm going to about get my head taken off. So my accuracy doesn't, you know, it doesn't get better. It gets worse. Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Jordan Love had a terrible day one, allegedly. And then day two had a good day. Should he be having terrible days if he's going to be good or does that happen everybody no i think you have terrible like i think there's different terrible days i remember years ago patrick i think it was patrick's first
Starting point is 00:37:15 year going into a starter he threw like six interceptions one practice and everyone was like oh my gosh young quarterback you're just trying to figure things out when I stare to the left 45 yards downfield. There's a difference between struggling and still having accuracy issues, at least in my opinion. Like when you're still showing accuracy issues, that's concerning when you're throwing, again, throwing routes on air, throwing one-on-ones, and throwing in shorts when you're not getting hit. Struggling with that is different than, you know, we had a couple of rough periods.
Starting point is 00:37:46 Because, like, that's when you're learning an offense. That's when you're figuring out how progressions work versus different coverages. That's when you're testing the boundaries, so to speak. So there's different levels or different variables of struggling. And that's why I go back. Like, again, I don't think Jordan Love, when you, I remember breaking down tape on Get Up, and everyone was like, Talon Talon has a talented. There are accuracy concerns. And I remember making the point of, Josh Allen did not have accuracy concerns at Wyoming.
Starting point is 00:38:16 That was a completely misrepresented, blown out thing. Jordan Love at Utah State did. So to continue to still have the accuracy issues yes that's concerning to me all right so i've been told by people that you can't fix that can you fix that that's not that i heard like if you're an accurate throw you're an accurate throw if you're not you're not yeah is that because and i think you can incrementally slightly improve it i don't know anybody and i've been around the game for a long time i don't know anybody who's gone from inaccurate to becoming accurate like that's what
Starting point is 00:38:58 i have heard as well like you're the new you're the you're the next person to tell me that because i've heard that a couple times in the past because as quarterbacks come into the building, whether they're going to be backups or whatever, and they'll show it, but obvious miss, like obvious miss. They'll be like, oh, yeah, that ain't going to be something you can do. I think you can incrementally improve it. I do. You can get a little bit better at it. But, I mean, we're talking about a guy that's been throwing a certain way and a certain
Starting point is 00:39:25 style physically for 12 plus years. That was a bad ball. No, it wasn't. It was a fucking dime. And I got a mini-camp up with the Patriots. I taught you better in 2011 on the sidelines when we were cheering guys on.
Starting point is 00:39:42 I don't think you can get... I just don't believe I've never seen a guy go from Something he is to something he isn't Danny what are you hearing About Mac Jones and do you Think that he will play this year
Starting point is 00:40:00 Or no I love that you just called me Danny our relationship Just went to a little bit of a different level well then he mocked you for the me's thing yeah he did yeah yeah that's why i said you think yeah he did he tried to sneak it in there one step forward two steps back can't win with it i haven't heard a ton about mac you know like i think the patriot situation is always a unique one where it's like we're going to give you weird numbers
Starting point is 00:40:27 and we're not going to really give you a chance to win the job until we want to give you a chance to win the job. And, you know, so they obviously do things a little bit differently. I think that Mac Jones starts week one. Whoa. Off of what information? What? I think I believe all five rookie quarterbacks start week one.
Starting point is 00:40:46 I think they should. Jimmy G? I think Matt Jones starts week one because... Jimmy G? Why would you start Jimmy G? Okay, all right. Go back to Matt Jones. I think that New England is going to go completely 30 years,
Starting point is 00:41:02 absolutely pound the rock, and they're going to be really good offensively top five offensive line they've got really good backs i think they're going to ask their quarterbacks to kind of do the least amount out of most guys in the nfl um and it's going to become about third down passing in new england and to do that really well you got to have two things you got to be able to absolutely own who's not, where's the blitz coming, send the offensive line back. You've got all that stuff. And then you've got to have remarkable ball placement.
Starting point is 00:41:30 And I think those are two things that Mac Jones will excel at. And I think that for those reasons, he's going to be their starter. All right. Well, Dan, every time I get to hear you speak, I feel like I get smarter. I appreciate you coming out of your vacation from being a lacrosse coach and giving us some great stuff, Dan. I appreciate you. You're the man.
Starting point is 00:41:51 I hope you guys are well. You look great, bud. Thank you. I've been intermittent fasting and spray tanning. Oh, yeah. Huh? How's the intermittent fasting going? Have you lost some LBs?
Starting point is 00:42:01 Yeah. I don't get on a scale because I don't like a number to decide how I'm doing, but I have lost a. Yeah, I don't get on a scale because I don't like a number to decide how I'm doing, but I have lost a lot visually, I believe. Yeah, my wife is laughing at the spray tan thing, by the way. Hey, tell her I said hello. Hey, how's it going?
Starting point is 00:42:15 Good to see you. Alright, have a good one. Thanks for stopping by. Sorry for interrupting in the family. Ladies and gentlemen, this is our fault. Kids are all at school. Dan, I appreciate your dedication, pal. We were dropping off t-shirts. Oh, yeah, yeah. I forgot.
Starting point is 00:42:30 You like my saying, bud? What is it? This is what I yell at kids all the time on the lacrosse field. Celebrate with your teammates! Hell yeah! Hey, they need it. Hey, you too, Dan. Ladies and gentlemen, Dan Rebo.
Starting point is 00:42:41 Hey! Anyways, joining us now, very much different than that conversation. Thank God. Thank God. All pro, left tackle. I believe the highest paid left tackle at one point.
Starting point is 00:42:59 I don't know if he still is. Might have to renegotiate. Ladies and gentlemen, from the Green Bay Packers in A.J. Hawk booking, David Bakhtiari. Yay! How's it going, beer chugger man? What's going on? Good.
Starting point is 00:43:17 Just got done grocery shopping. Just got home. I got these two little rascals playing in front of me, so I apologize in advance. Oh! Probably the barking that's going to ensue. They just happen to love fighting right at my feet. Hey, that's good.
Starting point is 00:43:29 You know, make the house be competitive around there. Every toy is needed. You should go to BarkBox.com forward slash pack. Get a free extra toy in every box this year. Bakhtiari, thank you so much for joining us. The initial reason why I was so fascinated talking to you is because that photo of those high school offensive linemen, what were your thoughts as these teenagers surrounded you and looked down upon you during this photo?
Starting point is 00:43:53 This is insane. Is this where you're from? And are these guys all going to Alabama next year, I assume? Well, they're juniors and seniors, and I met them outside my favorite hometown breakfast spot, Christie's, in Burlingame. I've been going there since I was their age. But, yeah, I felt like kind of an alpha move was when we took the photo and they put their arm over my shoulder. Oh!
Starting point is 00:44:18 And, you know, I wasn't going to go for a competitive, like, no, no, no, my arm goes on top of you. So I kind of got uh yeah i got out i got put uh in a beta situation i didn't know how to get out of it and i didn't i didn't want to like oh my god that guy be caught in a move where i'm like competing against you know like these these are still teenagers at the time right now so i i had to just uh i'd take the l on that one and uh and then i just let uh twitter absolutely roast me for being a tiny, I guess, a linebacker. Imagine if that guy starts doing this, by the way. Imagine if he just starts batting you in the head.
Starting point is 00:44:50 Oh, my. That would have been amazing. I assume those kids are nice. Go ahead, AJ. I'm sorry. Hey, I'm wondering how your rehab is coming, man. How's your ACL doing? How many months out are you from surgery?
Starting point is 00:44:59 For some reason, we don't get to hear as much about your rehab because there's a couple other things happening in the Green Bay area. Yeah, you know, typical fashion, Aaron taking all the media so no one gets any attention. The Green Bay Rodgers, so, you know, other guys, hardworking people that are recovering from, you know, big injuries. There's still nothing to talk about on that front. But thank you very much for asking, AJ. It's going really well.
Starting point is 00:45:24 I'm about at the halfway point it's been it's been really good I'm I'm really excited with the progress I've been making from you know having Tommy out here and proactive shout out practice sports performance out here in LA to shout out you know the guys in the athletic training room shout out Nate Weir Flea you know the guys and Lama DiPietro Palo. It's been really nice. I've got a great support staff. It's come along pretty well. I'm excited with where I'm at. Is this your first ACL?
Starting point is 00:45:54 Yes. This is actually my first really big injury. Is this first real serious? Rehab sucks so bad. Nobody talks about it. It is a fucking nightmare, dude. It is terrible. Yeah, it gave me a whole newfound respect.
Starting point is 00:46:08 You know, Brian Belaga, me and him both played tackle for the Packers for a long time. He tore both his ACLs. And, you know, I kind of feel bad the shit I was giving him when he's coming back. And now I totally understand where he's coming from. So I respect the hell out of him that much more. You got to teach your knees how to walk again in every muscle that surrounds it. So good luck with that.
Starting point is 00:46:28 Hey, I know Packers fans are pumped to hear Bakhtiari will be back. Yes! Now, Takatari, I don't know if we know each other that well. Bakhtiari, Mr. Bakhtiari, I have to... No, no, no, you're cool with AJ. You can call me Takatari. Yes!
Starting point is 00:46:46 Woo! By the way, did you get kicked out of the Kentucky Derby crew? No, you were there. No, you weren't there. Were you there? No, you weren't there. No, I was there. I was there.
Starting point is 00:46:54 Again, this was, you know, this is the offseason for Aaron. He needs all the attention. So, uh. Hey, how do you feel about this? Hey, how do you feel about this? You don't have to give me a real answer, and I would never want to put you in a gotcha situation, but as a teammate and a friend, you see this shit happening. You have to, and you're just like,
Starting point is 00:47:12 I know the business side of it is always separated in the locker room. It's like, hey, he's got to handle his business. He's got to handle his business. But it's fucking weird what's going down right now on your team. That has to be, I mean, obviously you've got to worry about your own stuff, but that is interesting, I'd assume, as a teammate of Aaron in that whole situation as well. Yeah, you know, the Packers are kind of notoriously known
Starting point is 00:47:31 for not having a lot of controversy or drama in the offseason. So it's definitely new and uncharted territories for me, being there for as long as I have. I mean, hey, I'm so long for the ride. I got my popcorn. I'm kind of enjoying what's going to happen, what's going to go down. I got a front row seat to how everything's going to unfold.
Starting point is 00:47:50 I'm not going to say it's ideal. I don't say I love it from a co-worker's perspective, but I think we'll all figure it out once, I think, come late July, early August. I think we'll get a good idea of how this thing's going to unfold. Yeah, who knows right now, by the way.
Starting point is 00:48:04 And that's why why if you gave any other answer, the whole world would explode because I don't think anybody has a clue what's going on right now. What do you have, Todd? David, recently I think AJ sent you a package and you posted a picture of it and ended up, I think, kind of doxing and putting his address out there. He deleted
Starting point is 00:48:20 it and then reposted it. AJ was oblivious to it, but what happened during that little situation there? So I was actually a little worried when AJ texted me again. No hello was just more like, what's your address? So I have no idea what's coming. But it was actually very nice. He sent me some Asylum cigars that I need to try.
Starting point is 00:48:38 I have not tried them yet. Oh, very nice. But, yeah, I'm not really very tech savvy, so I kind of thought I was doing the right thing. And then I had everyone blowing me up saying I should put my address out there. And I don't know if it could be shown or not. So I was just like, I'm going to be conservative. I'll just delete this and then re-doctor the photo just to make sure.
Starting point is 00:48:57 But I just thought it was hilarious that I can't believe you put Justin Takatari and it actually showed up at my doorstep. Incredible. You take the FedEx and the post office people don't know that's your name in there? You live there. You're part of the community, man. Well, I mean, I guess. I just missed that name being said around the facility.
Starting point is 00:49:18 I kind of enjoyed it. It kind of humbled me. Justin, that's the thing. No, all the people that would do that, it turns out they just get fired or cut and released. So maybe that name should die in the building. Hey, hold on, Pat. Hey, Justin, what was minicamp like without Aaron there?
Starting point is 00:49:38 I know you're not taking part, but you were rehabbing and everything. What was the vibe? Did it feel weird? I mean, yeah, definitely for me. I'm normally braxing. I'm not uh but other than that uh it's definitely different i think just i think the off seasons are changing so if you were there you'd be like wow this is so much more relaxed this is uh sounds awesome it's definitely going in the right direction i don't think it's where it needs to be but i think it's going in the right direction
Starting point is 00:50:01 but yeah definitely different um not to mention just the guys out there. There's a lot of young guys playing a lot of different positions. So, yeah, as you know, we have a bunch of young guys especially trying to practice, not in pads, and young guys do not know how to practice without pads yet. They can tend to be pretty sloppy. So I think that's definitely an element. And then obviously not having, you know, an MVP at quarterback that's been doing it for 16 years he has a pretty uh um pretty high command in the huddle so he can definitely operate the offense at a lot higher level so uh i definitely that was one thing that i definitely noticed has lafleur looked as miserable as he is in
Starting point is 00:50:39 press conferences all day at those practices no no. I've seen a couple of those little clips where you can just see so much pain behind his eyes, but I think I got to tip my hat to him. He's been handling this very well. Those dogs. Hey! You should see this right now. This is a constant fight.
Starting point is 00:51:02 Pete is coming for you. Oh, starstruck. You guys get camera shy? Oh, okay. They're not ready for the big lights. It's Fight Club. Don't talk about Fight Club. Can't thank you enough for joining us, David.
Starting point is 00:51:13 You're the best, dude. Continued success on the rehab, and good luck this season. No, thank you. I appreciate it. Thank you guys for having me. Hey, those high school kids did. They kind of did, you know. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:24 Okay. high school kids did, they kind of did, you know. Okay. Joining us right now in studio is a man who is titled and billed as such the greatest soccer gambler on earth. Hell yeah. Ladies and gentlemen, the man who hosts a show called hammer die every day 4 p.m eastern daylight time at youtube.com forward slash hammer die uh gumpy joining us right now gumpy you were the one that told us hey this euros thing is a big deal not your fault that none of us were really interested and couldn't find time to invest in the
Starting point is 00:52:02 games we tried i think we all tried. Numerous games. Tried to sport numerous games. Tried my best. Can't do it. Don't know who anybody is. That whole thing. But with that being said,
Starting point is 00:52:16 did you find it as ironic as we did that you co-host a gambling show with a man named the COVID cowboy, Tony Diggs? Tony. Hammered down, 4 o'clock every day. You are literally the greatest soccer gambler on
Starting point is 00:52:30 earth. And in a tournament that you introduced to us, basically, a tournament that you were excited for, the second biggest thing in the soccer world outside of the World Cup, you said these words, not us. Your co-host Diggs, in the first game of that tournament, said,
Starting point is 00:52:48 I'm fucking fading them. Not only am I fading him, okay, I'm also fading the country I fight for every single day. Is there a little bit of dissension among the ranks? The fact that the COVID cowboy, up on his degenerate horse, decided to turn at the greatest soccer gambler of all time and spit on him in the first game and then rightfully fall off his horse and get trampled on by losing the bet is there a little bit of dissension here on hammer down
Starting point is 00:53:18 gumpy is everything all right no i mean when tony went against his own roots his heritage you know i mean what does he care about me? Yeah, you're right. He turned his back on the Italians. That's what I was more worried about. Let's talk about the weekend, though, Gumpy. Was this a good weekend in the soccer world? You loved it this weekend.
Starting point is 00:53:34 Awesome. I mean, that Netherlands-Ukraine game yesterday. You see? Hell yeah. I couldn't find it. What time slot was that? Inside of me. I couldn't find it whenever I turned it on.
Starting point is 00:53:43 I like the Netherlands. They ice skate to work. What? No kidding. In Amsterdam, they ice skate. Amsterdam's part of the Netherlands, right? Yeah. Which is also Dutch.
Starting point is 00:53:58 Yes. Which is also Holland. Yes. Okay, so they're all those same things? Yes. Okay, so I think I like them. The country with the most names. But also, they ice skate to work down the canals and stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:54:08 That seems like a great team to pull for on the pitch. They beat the shit out of that other team you said? So their coach, Frank DeBoer, failed at Atlanta in MLS. Failed at Crystal Palace. Everybody hates him. They're up 2-0. He takes off two of their best defenders. Oh, come on.
Starting point is 00:54:24 Ukraine comes back, scores two blinders. Frank. Frank. Hey, Dubor. Okay. You need to do less, pal. Netherlands scored one to win it at the end, so we cashed that winner. But that was the best game of the tournament by far.
Starting point is 00:54:38 Okay, so that takes me to my next point. That guy stunk in Atlanta. Oh, yeah. Okay, now he's coaching this team. Yeah. I watched a lot of teams this weekend that the United States team could fucking rag doll if they wanted to. Yep. Just
Starting point is 00:54:49 absolutely rag doll. We could go in there and win that thing. Is that what you're saying? I mean, it's coming home. I've never been more sure. You watched that. Sterling almost broke his leg on that goal, pal. They could have had three in the first ten minutes. They were buzzing. They didn't even have two of their best players.
Starting point is 00:55:05 This England team, first time they've ever won the opener at Euros. How come nobody's playing their best players, by the way, if this thing actually matters? Every other day I see a tweet out of you saying, oh, this fucking team's not playing this fucking guy because of these fucking reasons. These guys play so much. I mean, they never stop.
Starting point is 00:55:20 This is the Euros. The Concava Cup. Did you see Reina sitting out? No no do you see polisic sitting out no these dudes are playing over there in dortmund and uh chelsea and everything over there they're they're playing just as much as hey i'll tell you about the old garden soccer getting too complacent that's right getting too comfortable let's show the conca calf some respect here yeah you're right you're right We came up pretty good, Nick. CONCACAF is the premier tournament in the world.
Starting point is 00:55:50 I think the World Cup has to... They're on notice now at this point. Listen, the World Cup has a trophy that's worth $20 million. Holy shit! Yeah, because when we did our little trophy thing, the little trophy off, and Nick put out a poll of just four on the poll.
Starting point is 00:56:06 Let's be honest. We're talking four major American sports. This is Nick talking. That's Nick talking. He won a big poll, though. You know, haven't had a poll in a while. Nick puts that out on my Twitter just before there. All weekend, I was
Starting point is 00:56:21 bombarded with facts and stats about trophies from all over the globe. You live in India. How can't you have the board water? I heard that call. Pat's like, hey, you know, just maybe do that from your Twitter next time. Yeah. I'll retweet your poll.
Starting point is 00:56:37 Hey, who won that poll? I believe it was the Stanley Cup. Yeah. Hell yeah. Yeah, Stanley Cup. Congrats to Nick. But the World Cup's like 20 million or whatever. Damn.
Starting point is 00:56:45 I don't know what these Euros are getting, but I do know the Concava. They got a big one. Hey, you remember? Oh! Massive cup. It was a big moment. So it's coming home to a place it's never been. Nothing gets people riled up quite like it's coming home.
Starting point is 00:57:01 Why? People hate the English. It's the best. Really? See, all I see is people like. It's very split. Like it's either you're Why? People hate the English. It's the best. Really? See, all I see is people like... It's very split. Like it's either you're all in or they hate it.
Starting point is 00:57:09 Oh, the only reason why I see it though, by the way, is because my timeline is only littered with soccer stuff from Gumpy. And Gumpy is very much like, hey, it's coming home. I've paid taxes to that queen
Starting point is 00:57:18 my entire life. I'm also staying home too. That whole thing whenever it comes here. Thank you for updating on... What's another good game that we should potentially maybe be invested in? France? Spain-Sweden should be interesting today.
Starting point is 00:57:29 Spain has some players out with COVID. I mean, it's a big game. When's Mbappé playing? I mean, Portugal with Ronaldo. Portugal's going tomorrow, and then you've got Germany-France, which is the biggest game of the tournament so far tomorrow. What time? I think it's not the early one.
Starting point is 00:57:46 I think it's noon. Okay. Here we go. The watch-along. Okay. Big soccer show tomorrow. Joining us now is a man who won't be with us for the back half of this week, by the way.
Starting point is 00:57:56 Oh. It's a charity thing. No, it's a charity thing he's got to go to. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now, college football national champion, Super Bowl champion, A.J. Hall. A.J. Hall. A.J., did you watch any of the Euros? I wanted to do that conversation
Starting point is 00:58:09 before you got on because I assumed you saw none of it. Did you? I mean, you couldn't hear me. I was trying to jump in and give my input on all those games
Starting point is 00:58:17 that happened, yeah. Okay, so you're just saying bad timing that we're past it or do you want to revisit some games or not? I mean, bad timing, we're probably past it. I think there's a lot of football stuff out there.
Starting point is 00:58:29 Let's talk about it. I mean, we talked about it in the first hour, and I want to let you know because you weren't in the room whenever I said it, but on Friday I made a promise to me. Hey, me, I'm going to do this. I'm not talking about Aaron anymore, okay? I'm not talking about Miles Teller. I ain't talking about even Hawaii this. I'm not talking about Aaron anymore. I'm not talking about Miles Teller. I ain't talking about even Hawaii anymore.
Starting point is 00:58:47 I ain't talking about Aaron anymore. And by the way, guess what? Packers. I'm not talking Packers anymore because I felt like we were doing everybody a disservice by continuing to talk about something that had no new information in it. None.
Starting point is 00:58:59 Recycled information was becoming breaking news on the situation. And I think the only reason why many of us that listen to this show or watch this show knew that it was recycled information that was being, you know, kind of led and titled as breaking information. I think I got to the point where I was like, I'm done with it. Until something happens, I'm fucking done with it. I don't want to talk about it.
Starting point is 00:59:20 And then Mark Murphy goes ahead and I described it as a bit in a stand-up and a set and i'm only saying that because mark had to think about this whenever he was gonna talk about aaron he knew he was gonna be asked about it he knew he was gonna have to talk about it and i assume he knew what the backlash or what the altercation or ripple effect of what he said was gonna happen whenever mark murphy says that your friend, AJ Hawk, the guy you're in the photos with, with your busted up hands at the Kentucky Derby is called a complicated fellow. What is your first reaction? And how is Mark Murphy, um, this like kind of oblivious to reading of a room or is this on purpose? Like a lot of people are saying a lot of people are saying, well, this is cause Mark knows it because mark knows it's over and he's gone blah blah blah then there's other people
Starting point is 01:00:07 are like he didn't mean it in an offensive way there's no way aaron should have felt offended it's like what the fuck is this and why are we talking about this again and it's because this is a big deal all of a sudden well i guess too like murphy it sounded like with in the room like the context of the conversation he kind of brought it up out of nowhere. He didn't really need to respond about Aaron, I guess, when this happened, but he didn't even say it. It's Ted Thompson, the GM. So hold on. So what was being asked?
Starting point is 01:00:34 I'm not sure exactly what it is, but I've heard that he kind of jammed it in. He wasn't asked directly about Aaron. Like these guys. You're telling me that Mark Murphy's like, yeah, I got some shit to say. What's the first question? All right.
Starting point is 01:00:49 You know, Ted used to tell me that these guys like Aaron are just complicated. He used to say it all the time. So, you know, you got any follow-up questions now? Is that what he did? Is that what you're – I don't know. I could be completely off, but that's just what I've heard from – I don't know what the meeting was.
Starting point is 01:01:05 Was it with a shareholder? Now it's even. Yeah. Oh, this was a planted statement by Mark Murphy to maybe set how they feel and maybe to win back the fan base in this PR war that has become very, very, very P in the PR. What do you have? I would say we were talking about like the last couple weeks like how Packers fans feel, whose side in the PR. What do you have? I would say we were talking about the last couple weeks
Starting point is 01:01:25 how Packers fans feel. Whose side are they on? I feel like this statement makes them go completely back to Aaron Rodgers' side. But he thought. Yeah. The opposite. Yeah, which is cool. Or maybe he said, you know what?
Starting point is 01:01:36 I'll be the bad guy in this. Make Aaron look good. He's Herb Brooks. He's good cop, bad cop here with Aaron. Listen, we kind of got ourselves into something here. I'll come out, be the asshole. You come around, good storyline. You skip that thing, we won't find you. We didn't get better at football at all during
Starting point is 01:01:52 the OTAs because you weren't here, but we'll just kind of, I'll be bad guy, you be good guy. We'll come in, celebrate how we're doing, keep it moving, and you're back. I suppose it's possible. Is that what Mark Murphy's thinking, or why is he doing it? Does he have to do these speaking engagements i assume as the president he has obligations to go speak at different groups
Starting point is 01:02:08 is that what this is so he has to talk about it yeah and i guess when i said like i'm not sure how he jammed this in but yeah he has to be do public speaking things he has to answer to shareholders and things when they ask him questions it's not like he tweeted this now if he would have just came out of nowhere and tweeted or just put it out on his social media this statement about so where was it fell then it would be even worse this at a meeting this was a private conversation i mean there's a picture of him at a podium so i don't know i don't think it's like completely private this was this like when ben roethlisberger was telling me it was and he didn't expect it to get out of that zoom and guess what zoom zoomed out of that Zoom. And guess what?
Starting point is 01:02:45 Zoom zoomed out of the Zoom the story of how he found the Lord. I got it. Jesus Christ. That got out before he was even done with his testimony. It was everywhere. Schefter had that out before. Is that what happened? Did he think he was potentially in a safe space?
Starting point is 01:03:00 And he thought he was just having an inside conversation? And then all of a sudden. He's smart enough to know. Don't you think he's know don't you think so that's what we've been saying he is smart enough to know he's the president of the packers so he knows i'm i'm saying he's smart enough to know that there's no like anything that he says will most likely get out even if there's not someone standing there with a recorder in front of him exactly so he has to know that he has to know what that's going to lead to conversationally so is maz because i think think Maz Yonah on ESPN this morning said, the Packers know what's going to happen.
Starting point is 01:03:30 This is just the tip of the iceberg. They're out. I don't know if Maz was directly saying they were out, but pretty much. I mean, he was alluding to it. And then other people were like, yeah, they're definitely out on this whole thing now. Is that the new, is Mark Murphy? What do you mean out as in what? Like they're out on this whole thing now. Is that the new – is Mark Murphy? What do you mean out as in what? Like they're out on Aaron.
Starting point is 01:03:48 Yeah. But they're saying they're just going to sit there and stay on Pat. They're not going to trade him. They're not saying that. Yeah, nobody has said that. Nobody has said that. The story was actually they're not – he's going to have to or he's going to lose out on $30 million.
Starting point is 01:04:00 He's going to have to do – he's going to have to come back. But now the report is mark mark and everybody back there they're they're done with aaron basically wasn't that kind of yeah that was kind of like the report right i tried to listen to it a few times to kind of hear it it was like what is he saying was he not saying and i don't know who knows what and who's talking to who at this point seems like there's a chance maybe the packers people who said like uh we don't talk about this publicly they're talking to a lot of people, it sounds like, potentially about the whole thing, which is fascinating to me because Aaron hasn't really said a word publicly, right?
Starting point is 01:04:31 Not at all, which we have actually been like, hey, fuck it, can you give us something? And I guess he has not because I assume, and I don't know, you might know this better than I do, like there's some real shit going on. So it's like now is not the time to make any public statements. Did Mark Murphy say we're not going to talk publicly? Did somebody say we're not talking publicly? Last time when Mark Murphy, was it when he said
Starting point is 01:04:51 the fan base was split? I think that's when he said it's better that neither side speak publicly. As we're gathered here today, he said at that podium, just weeks after writing a memo to everybody i'd like to let you know what i had said then does not reign true now aaron is a fucking problem just like i said
Starting point is 01:05:16 to aaron when matt lafleur got hired don't be the problem okay just like i said now it's hey this guy he's complicated. You know, hey, we don't fucking help him. He hates us. I mean, we kind of just ride his coattails to success and act like we're the smartest people on earth. We don't really do much in return. We give him fucking money and then enough.
Starting point is 01:05:37 Hey, shut up and just fucking make us all rich, pal. Make us all successful. Make all of our resumes look much better than they probably should. What is it? He's a complicated guy. Shouldn't he just shut shut the up and take it is this is a complicated situation listen we have you know told this guy a lot of things we told him kind of hey hey you play football just shut the up pipe down all right you shut the up we told him after he said uh hey i'd like this guy to be my wide receiver.
Starting point is 01:06:05 We told him real quick, didn't we? Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey! In that contract you have, you play football. Guess what I do? I'm a cuck motherfucker. It's like tomorrow. See ya. You liked him yesterday.
Starting point is 01:06:14 He is gone, pal. All right? Remember what we said. We're all going to get successful here. Remember, all of our resumes are going to go good. This is a fucking complicated situation, man. What's the deal? It's not complicated at all. We make
Starting point is 01:06:25 decisions. You make us look good. Shut the fuck up. We'll do our thing. Here we go. Let's move along. I guess that could be complicated if you're Mark Murphy. Well, and to your point about Maz, I think he kind of made it seem like, and I don't know if, like you said, he wrote this or he's reporting on something else, but it sounded like
Starting point is 01:06:41 they were out on him both business-wise and personally. They had no interest in fixing the situation. So if that's the case, what? Did they trade him? Well, but they said they're not going to trade him, so do they just wait until he – Did something happen in the last couple days that made Mark Murphy go,
Starting point is 01:06:58 all right, we're done? We are – I don't think they're done. I don't know why Maz is – if you're saying if they're truly done with him Then they would trade him Let's get 55 draft picks for this guy Yeah
Starting point is 01:07:13 Give us one more year narrative There's no way he's going to be like I'm just going to give you one more year of my career On the back nine You're right One more time Like J career on the back nine. Hey, you're right. Yeah, let's do it one more. Hey, one more time, huh? Yeah. Like good old days.
Starting point is 01:07:27 Like Jeter on his last year. Every away game I go to, they'll present me with something before the game. All that. It'll be fun. Hey, Jeter, that had to be. How many 162 games? Oh, yeah. Every single one.
Starting point is 01:07:37 I mean, there was a lot of hat tipping, right? Oh, yeah. That's a long time. Some gifts, you know, from teams. That had to be uncomfortable for Jeter. Coach K is going to one-up that this year. Oh, yeah. Uh-huh. Well, Jeter uncomfortable for Jeter. Coach K is going to one-up that this year. Oh, yeah. Well, Jeter didn't want it.
Starting point is 01:07:48 Coach K is going to welcome it. Whoa. Yeah, they're doing a podium at center court before every game so Coach K can address the fan base. Every fan base. Yeah, that's right. The fan bases. Me's think.
Starting point is 01:07:59 Yeah. Me thinks. Imagine Coach K cutting a promo before every game. They roll in the UNC or wherever the hell they play at. Me thinks. Imagine Coach K cutting a promo before every game. They roll in the UNC or wherever the hell they play at. There's a podium for Coach K to coach up the student section, the whole thing. Him cutting a promo and people just burying him.
Starting point is 01:08:16 Coach K, legend. Hey, absolute legendary. Of course. Legendary career. Great work, Coach. He's going to walk out the Cascada the whole time. Oh, yeah. I love hearing that song.
Starting point is 01:08:25 I love hearing that song. Saw him dancing. It's great to walk out the Cascada the whole time. Oh, yeah. I love hearing that song. I love hearing that song. Saw him dancing. It's great to see you. He was mesmerized by that song. Oh, yeah. The whole place. I mean, they were all raising the room. It was awesome, dude.
Starting point is 01:08:41 The camera crazies were going bonkers over that song, dude. It was awesome. Hey, college sports are back, though. Yeah. What happened? College baseball, dude. It was awesome. Hey, college sports are back, though. Yeah. What happened? College baseball, man. I watched them this weekend. Hey, I'm enjoying college baseball. Women's softball.
Starting point is 01:08:53 Isn't Oklahoma dominating women's softball? Greatest. They already won. Greatest softball team of all time. I just want to let you know that. I got a chance to watch them. And left fielder. Mackenzie? Maybe the most intense human on earth, okay,
Starting point is 01:09:08 she is a ball player, okay, out there. She's an absolute ball player. That team, offensively, most gifted lineup in the history of women's softball. Bar none. And what I just said, there is a recycled take from somebody else. Please do not bury me. I sent out a tweet asking if they were the greatest team of all time because I don't know shit, obviously, about softball like I wish I did.
Starting point is 01:09:31 And boy, that caused quite a... I bet you those Jenny Finch Arizona teams were quite upset with you. There was a team in Indiana back in the 60s from what I've been told. Really? I guess they could really throw the ball. Yeah, I bet they could. That Oklahoma team would have fucking 20-runned them. They would have.
Starting point is 01:09:49 They were awesome to watch. That James Madison pitcher that just put the whole school on her back, basically. She had over 1,000 pitches or whatever. And it's fast. I mean, it's fast. And that's like women's hockey. Women's hockey is awesome. Very fast-paced.
Starting point is 01:10:03 It's moves. It's things like that. Do all the women pitchers have to wear the little face masks? No. They don't? No. There were a couple girls that weren't wearing them. Sandra Cock? Sandra Cock definitely was not wearing them because she throws gas. She knows. No one's hitting it back
Starting point is 01:10:18 up the middle of my face. Her coming in down five in the championship was crazy. People were livid she wasn't starting. After seeing her, by the way, she throws that low ball. A lot of grounders out of that Oklahoma team that likes to go yard. That's smart baseball. Boomer!
Starting point is 01:10:33 Congrats, Oklahoma Sooners. College baseball, though, I think they're leading up for their big thing. I was watching one guy. He was a pitcher. Purple. I don't remember who it was, but I think he was wearing purple. They ever zoomed in on his face? The amount of conversation he was having with himself, obviously.
Starting point is 01:10:52 The lip, the licking, the biting, the turning, the whole routine he had. I'm like, that guy is going through mental war. Every single pitch out there. I couldn't even imagine it. The amount of pressure there when you're a college baseball player, you probably haven't been paid yet, or have you? No. Haven't been paid yet, trying to make it.
Starting point is 01:11:10 Massive situation on your shoulders here for your day-to-day. I mean, just the amount of pressure on those pitchers in that college baseball, I couldn't even imagine. That guy looked petrified. And then he got through mud, like 90-something, got the ball back, full routine yet again. Like, oh, my God, every pitch this kid is battling. He was battling through it.
Starting point is 01:11:28 Good for him. But that was intense. Mississippi State just broke another attendance record, I guess. You're right. AJ, college baseball, college softball, awesome to watch. If you ever go in person, I remember I was down – for some reason I was in Knoxville when I was a kid, and we were watching some football thing,
Starting point is 01:11:43 and we walked over to the baseball, like their stadium, and we watched a college baseball game, Tennessee. They were good back then, I guess, too. They had a student section like a couple hundred deep that would, whenever like the opposing manager comes out of the mound, they're doing the left, left, right, left. They're like bagging on every single player. Like it was an awesome environment.
Starting point is 01:12:00 I don't know if it's still like that. I assume Mississippi State has that. Hey, I think SEC baseball is like that. Arkansas celebration. Arkansas, the pop off the bat there as soon as it hit. Way better than a Major League game most likely to go to. Yeah, unless you're in the playoffs in New York
Starting point is 01:12:15 and they hit a grand slam. That place was wild. Me and Ty. Me, Ty, Zito, Giuliani, Evan, Foxy, bodied by the guy Oh yeah Foxy
Starting point is 01:12:33 You got a D-bone Giuliani saw it all happening That guy was like 6'6", 240 I had no chance He was smaller than Foxy He was also like 95 years old Get out of here He punked you and just stole your ball He's also like 95 years old. Get out of here.
Starting point is 01:12:48 He punked you and just stole your ball? There's a middle linebacker, AJ. Boom. Pop. That's mine. I saw a lady steal the ball from the kid yesterday. I saw an old man lose out on a ball and throw a tantrum. If that happened now, I could legally sock that guy in the mouth, I'm pretty sure.
Starting point is 01:13:06 It does feel like when you walk into these sports arenas now post-quarantine, people aren't about the shits anymore. Uh-uh. What once might have been a little bit of leeway whenever you're potentially chirping or something like that at a game, post-quarantine, 14 months lockdown,
Starting point is 01:13:26 a lot of potential aggression in the body. That shit ain't flying anymore. No way. The only thing that's flying is a fist and probably your jaw. People are getting fucked up out here. And while fucking people up, all of a sudden their Miss Cleo, call me now. Suns in four.
Starting point is 01:13:44 What the fuck you got? That was amazing. All of a sudden, they're Miss Cleo. Call me now. Suns in four. What a fucking guy. That was amazing. The Suns locker room had to have seen that. And they said, hey, hey. We got to do it. For a fucking guy. That guy's fucking just throwing fists, cutting a promo, throwing him around. Suns in four.
Starting point is 01:14:00 Turns around, of course, clapping. The whole place is it. Sports are awesome right now. But in society, we've said this before, you know, head on swivel, okay? Don't talk no shit. There probably won't be no shit, but you never know right now. But if you were going to chirp and you were in a sports atmosphere, I think now is a time where we're going to learn. Somebody's going to learn about a lot of people.
Starting point is 01:14:24 That Denver Nuggets guy putting his shit in his pocket. What'd you see? This shit. is a time where we gonna learn somebody's gonna learn about a lot of people that denver nuggets guy putting a in his pocket yeah what'd you see this oh no this is not going how i thought it was going to go he put his hands on his head and then the guy like started talking he kind of let his let his guard down all of a sudden another one oh they get me out of here what up i love what's going on people are beating the the fuck out of people, though. Telling his buddy, I'm going to fuck your boy up. And then, like, getting him a couple uppercuts. They did it, by the way. That guy made two accurate predictions while beating the fuck out of two people.
Starting point is 01:14:53 Yeah. Shout out to Sons and Four Guys, dude. Good for you. Even Nuggets fans. Hey, we don't promote violence. No. No. We are just bringing awareness that it does exist out there.
Starting point is 01:15:03 And I think now it is amplified. He was protecting himself. Bingo. That's right. Bingo. Some very short, accurate, compact punches that were very efficient. And he was hitting them with the inside of his fist, too. I think that's like a guy who actually –
Starting point is 01:15:20 He knows what he's doing. Yeah, I feel like he – Yeah, say volleyball, Zeke. Yeah, by the way, that's not volleyball. That's bad volleyball. That's bad volleyball. Hey, Olympics coming around. There's going to be volleyball.
Starting point is 01:15:31 Oh, yeah. That's a good sport, too. Hohhauser and... So what's happening? The Olympics? Yeah. Hohhauser and... Yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:40 Hey, Hohhauser, I'm fucking around, dude. He puts his hands up. It's a roof. You're coming. You know what I mean? He puts his hands up, it's a roof. You're coming, you know what I mean? He puts a roof up there. No, we want, will that be the sand volleyball, right? Like the two-on-two?
Starting point is 01:15:52 Yeah, it's Dole Hauser. Is Kerry Walsh doing this one again? No, I'm saying short legs. Yeah, I've been seeing commercials for her. I'm pretty sure she's in it. Hey, the big thing when you're blocking a volleyball spike, hey, some people think they need to jump real high. You don't.
Starting point is 01:16:06 Most spikes are happening during that candy cane. That's all you need to get to. Okay? Yeah, don't jump too high. The balls will come to you. And then go ahead and talk that thing. Talk that thing. Point.
Starting point is 01:16:17 Why wouldn't you jump too high so you know it's not going over you and if it hits your elbow, it's still going down? Yeah, because then it can just use you. You know? I can just right off the side of your head. Oh, because then it can just use you. You know? I can just right off the side of your head. Oh, hit it off of you. Yeah. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:16:29 No higher than a canny can. Hey, I was a proficient volleyball player. Proficient. I don't know if I'm using that word right or not. I was a good volleyball player. Did you do a jump serve? I had a jump floater. Yeah, so instead of the top spin, I had a running jump floater.
Starting point is 01:16:46 I love sand volleyball. Sand volleyball is awesome. Pool volleyball is fun if you can get one of those together. I had such a fear of water for so long after the incident with my ear. I don't necessarily love pool volleyball, but beach volleyball is the best. I really enjoy it. It's a great workout too, man. You die.
Starting point is 01:17:04 You absolutely die. I saw Hulu's a great workout, too, man. You die. You absolutely die. I saw, who was training? X on the beach. Xavier Rhodes? Oh, Rhodes, yeah. Xavier Rhodes. Did you see his sand workout? No.
Starting point is 01:17:17 He's gliding across the sand. He's coming back, obviously, going to need him. Julio's in town in the AFC Southeast here with the Colts or whatever. He was training on the beach. It was unbelievable watching him. I was puked watching his workout. Helmet on. Yeah, I think he had a few socks on.
Starting point is 01:17:36 On their sand, which is awesome. He was just moving, though. Sand kills you. Did you guys have a sand pit in Green Bay? Yeah, I believe we did have a sand pit eventually. We didn't use it a whole lot, but when we did, yeah, it's death. They try to introduce that a couple different times and a couple different strength coaches at the Colts,
Starting point is 01:17:55 and I don't remember it ever sticking to it. Those first couple workouts in there, whenever you just go in there like, oh, I'm going to work on the sand today. I see it on the internet. This will be fun. You go in there, and literally go in there like, I'm going to work on the sand today. I see it on the internet. This will be fun. You go in there and literally you're four steps in. You're like, oh my. You are running
Starting point is 01:18:08 ten steps to get two feet. Because you're just like a yabba dabba doo guy in there basically. It is. Did you do it in college at Ohio State? We did it a decent amount where there'd be certain days where the whole workout was in the sand pit and on the dip and pull up bars that were right next to it. And it was just, you just killed yourself for an hour straight.
Starting point is 01:18:26 Really? I would have had massive anxiety going into that one. I did. I was very nervous before every single one. Yes, everybody was scared to death. Was it early morning? Was this like off-season early morning type stuff, I assume? No, it was like the weird one-off workouts that you have every once in a while
Starting point is 01:18:40 to change things up, like on a Friday in the summer. We never did that. We died every day. Same way. And then the hill was at the end. And the hill was at the end. The hill. This hill thing, Law School Hill at West Virginia, it was like the end.
Starting point is 01:18:54 Did you have to, like, leave where you guys were practicing, like normally worked out and, like, meet up there? It was outside the stadium. So it was, like, on one side of the stadium. The law school was up on top of it. And then West Virginia, Mountaineers, the hills are a bit steeper. That's why I got a scooter out there. I had to.
Starting point is 01:19:09 The first day I walked to class, I said, never again. The law school hill was what you led up to all summer. All summer workouts was two past law school hill, basically. It was considered the aggro, Craig. Wow. That was your final conditioning test? Yeah, it was the hill, and it was. So that was your final conditioning test? Yeah, was the hill. And it was.
Starting point is 01:19:26 How many? What did you do? I think it was 10 of them. And you had a certain amount of time, depending upon your weight class, to get up and back down before the next one was starting. And then if you didn't make it, you had to make up every one you didn't make. And you weren't allowed to leave, basically. They had people there.
Starting point is 01:19:40 I'm sure people have learned about this now. They had people there until like 4 p.m., 5 p.m. These things started 7.30 a.m. This is when these things started. People were still crawling up and down basically the hill to get there. For me, I was very fortunate. I grew up running up and down hills.
Starting point is 01:20:00 Running down the hill is almost like that is a bigger part of the whole thing because the faster you get down, by the way, the more weight you have. Getting up, you can kind of pace yourself if you know how to run down a hill. Not everybody knows how to run down a hill, especially a steep one. I look like the fucking girl chasing a cheese
Starting point is 01:20:17 during the whole. I was just skipping down that thing and then you just wait at the bottom, but I've seen plenty of souls leave bodies on their thing. Yeah, it is. Especially when you're dead tired, though. Trying to come down a steep hill. Good luck. People just eating shit. Whoa.
Starting point is 01:20:33 You know, like jumping over. Walter used to do it. What's that? Walter Payne. Up and down in Tim's. He used to wear it. Jerry Rice. He used to do it in Tim's. Oh, yeah. Heavy boots. Jerry Rice did that as well, is what AJ just said. Hills are a motherfucker. And we have one in my backyard now.
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Starting point is 01:22:00 to the show oh you guys are gonna like hearing this the jeep would not start no i didn't turn on for a week what that's on me i should have known i should have known it's such so disrespectful to people whose dream is to own a car like that you just let that thing die three days after you might have have a magnet on your car. Hey, to re-say what you just said, what did you say? I let that thing die in three days? That thing died in three days.
Starting point is 01:22:34 Nobody's dreaming of owning a goddamn Jeep with a Hemi that's dying when it's not used for three fucking days. Okay? Hey, for some reason, whoever the original owner was that put that engine into that Jeep that had over 100,000 miles on it and sold it to you for $117,000, I hope they'd reach out to us somehow and let us know what they thought they were going to get. Like, hey, man, I was hoping to get about $35,000.
Starting point is 01:22:55 You turn it. That was a nice thing you did for that guy. Well, I have talked to him, especially recently here, as this thing hasn't you know started back up tim mcfee went and took a look at it this morning though he figured it out oh good to go got a wire that was blown and he said uh probably would have potentially would have known about that you know as but he's gonna figure allegedly this thing's back up and running in the jeep with the hemi with the tires and everything it wasn't that for a hundred some thousand miles obviously doofus i mean what are we doing they took the thing still the bones the bones oh yeah nothing's wrong with
Starting point is 01:23:31 the bones by the way i hop in it fucking still there you know what i mean it just won't it just won't it wouldn't even i mean i got it the alpine radio did turn on. And then, it's a sound that I've heard far too often. All right, here's the battery's fucking dead. We need to drive cars. Like when you have them, you need to drive them to keep them going. Who has the time?
Starting point is 01:23:55 Go ahead. You were excited. You were getting ready to like, take it out for a spin. Weather's beautiful this weekend. Oh, where I was headed. Where I was headed, by the way by the way was you know a nice little
Starting point is 01:24:07 drive you know maybe a place that you know would have been cool to potentially you know drive back from as well in the woods a little bit you know out a little bit it was awesome i and to get to by the way i got down a barn you know so it's a little bit of a walk i was fucking skipping to get back in i think because it's been raining for nine straight days. Yeah. Literally couldn't let, I go down, I see it every day, take dogs on a walk, give it a little, good to see you. Hey, happy to see you're still fucking standing,
Starting point is 01:24:34 you know, the bones are. Just try to start it. When you go down there, just give it a little start, too. I know. Then I got to take the keys. You're right. Leave the keys in. You're worried someone's going to come in your barn
Starting point is 01:24:42 and steal your Jeep? Hey, Jay, listen. Yeah. I lock every door, okay? I know. Leave the keys in. You're worried someone's going to come in your barn and steal your Jeep? AJ, listen. I lock every door. I shut every blind. I do. I am a hay. Yeah, I think somebody comes steal that fucking Jeep for sure. What do you think?
Starting point is 01:24:56 Is this a movie where you put the keys up in the sunshade thing? Yeah, this ain't the days where you put the shit in a gas tank. On your own property, I would. Oh, jeez. I'll see. Just hide them in a gas tank. On your own property, I would. Oh, jeez. I'll see. Or just hide them. Hide them in the barn somewhere down there so you don't have to. I'm sure every day you're walking the dogs.
Starting point is 01:25:11 Oh, hey, I'm going to start you up, old buddy. And keys are back in the house. I bet that happens every single day. You know what? To be honest, I never said, hey, I'm going to start you up, buddy. Should have been thinking about that. That is how I'll think nowadays going forward since you taught me. But there's a lot of like patting on them.
Starting point is 01:25:26 You know, saying, hey, a lot of people say you're way overpriced, dude. But I'm happier on my team. I'll let the Jeep know that although it is incredibly inconvenient and tough to drive in a lot of places, and there's not a lot of Sundays to drive that whole thing around, I appreciate it being part of the squad. Maybe we get you a universal remote that like remote starts all at once. Puts being a part of the squad. Love it, Chief. Maybe we get you a universal remote that like,
Starting point is 01:25:45 remote starts all at once. Oh. Puts like a fucking on a schedule. Yeah, so like, boom, eight in the morning, all on. Ten in the afternoon.
Starting point is 01:25:54 Smart. Just like once a week, like one of those systems tests, you know, that you see on the TV. Three lights, all good to go.
Starting point is 01:26:00 EAS ones. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Beep. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Is this your version? Is this your version of Tubin coming back on air and spilling his guts like trying to be relatable to people by saying, like, you don't have enough time to start all the many cars you have?
Starting point is 01:26:15 I only drive my F-150, okay? Hell yeah. That's what I would have said if I wanted to be relatable. What I was trying to say, although that is true. That is a 100% true statement, but if I was pandering, who has the time to go make sure all these fucking overpriced cars are okay?
Starting point is 01:26:33 You guys good? Good. You do your thing, I'll do my thing. When I need you and we need each other, let's do it. These divas... You're right, but when you pay that much, you should expect that they do work Bingo That's what I'm saying
Starting point is 01:26:46 That's what I'm saying It's like hey The F-150 That son of a bitch I'll sit it out 10 days that thing And I'll hit the remote Start on that thing
Starting point is 01:26:53 Guess what It'll go Now there might be a time Where it's You know Gas Tank Sensor thing
Starting point is 01:27:01 Might completely Leave me stranded On the side of a highway Because it's broken Gonna have to fix that but it's a little change Yeah, God, yeah and got the oil changed shout out this weekend. Shout out to that That thing was gonna die for sure. But what I'm saying is These things are a pain in the ass all these vehicles when just you know Jeep Lightning I used to have Jeep Lightning back in high school that thing couldn't go to speed limit on most highways
Starting point is 01:27:22 Guess what that motherfucker turned on every day. What's wrong with these goddamn cars? I'm tired of it. I'm sick of it. I'm sick of it, AJ. How's the Shelby doing? Hey, this weekend, Tim wanted... Tim's tired of that thing sitting around, I think. Yeah. I think Tim McAfee, yeah. I think Tim McAfee is going to end up just leaving
Starting point is 01:27:40 the house one day. I'm 100% sure. Not 100% sure, but much closer to the day-to-day he got a new battery for it he was at the house uh yesterday came over happy father's day tim father's day is coming up by the way uh happy father's day to you too aj happy father's day way to go happy father's day everybody else too out there uh i'll be at hell in a cell on father's day so i had father's day early you know what I mean? Hey, Ray Mysterio is fucking in big trouble.
Starting point is 01:28:08 Look out. Hey, listen, I'm a big fan of Ray's, but he shouldn't have done what he did. Roman Reigns in a Hell in a Cell. Dude, ain't nowhere to run. Not at Hell in a Cell, dude. Acknowledge him. So are you going to rotate? Are the commentary booths rotate back and forth during that? I think so, yeah.
Starting point is 01:28:23 I don't fully understand what's going on, but I do believe me and Corey Graves switch it out, in and out, in and out. How you doing? Well, and I thought he has his crew, you have you and Cole. Yeah, but he sits on the same side as I do on that desk, so he and I have the plug-in thing. It said Graves and Byron for my first for Saxton for my first seven weeks
Starting point is 01:28:48 there this past week. Graves McAfee. Oh, nice. Let's go. Come on. I did it. Every week I looked down and I was like, yeah, I guess people quit. Alright, here we go.
Starting point is 01:29:02 And then it was on there. It was a big moment actually. Jimmy Smith, the new Raw commentator, his name was on there already. Play-by-play guy, though. He does. I mean, his job is much more difficult and harder than mine, I will say. But, yeah, his name's on there. My name's on there anyways. Happy Father's Day.
Starting point is 01:29:20 Tim came over. Got a new battery for that thing. Started it up. Took it around. Drive around the property a little bit. I think old Tim is setting up for a potential moment. And by the way, I'd be
Starting point is 01:29:31 100% okay with it. He would turn that son of a bitch on. Take it, Tim. Just take it. You know if he just drives that thing right to his house, parks it in his garage, you'll never even ask about it. You probably won't realize. You won't even know. He did not have any car parts. I did not have any cardboard.
Starting point is 01:29:46 I did not used to have a shirt. That one I wrecked into a tree and I tried to break up with you. Excuse me. Excuse me. I didn't try to break up with her. We did break up because of that. We have since got back together and now are now married. But anyways, I think he's going to take that whole thing.
Starting point is 01:30:02 The weekend that was, AJ, did you watch Joker play? Yeah, a little bit. I mean, I saw the garbage ejection he got when he barely even made contact. No, no, no. What's he saying? Different Joker. He's thinking of Joe Basketball. Oh, the MVP Joker.
Starting point is 01:30:17 Sorry. Zito and I were having a one-way conversation in my ear. Joker, third quarter, down eight in a must-win game for the mvp's team those mickey moss refs over at the nba just a couple days after a security guard comes sprinting onto the court to break up a potential scuffle now they're kicking mvps out of games in must-win games are you kidding me? Now, Joker did come out and say he was trying to set a tone with this particular swipe.
Starting point is 01:30:51 He did, I mean, hit him in the face. And it was a... He grazed his nose and then got all ball with his hands. Yeah, seven-foot-something, though, coming down, just grazing a face in there. You could see how it could have been a flagrant two or whatever, but kicking the MVP out of the game in a
Starting point is 01:31:10 must-win. Obviously, Suns fans, which are in abundance, by the way, saw a clip from somebody leaving that game where all the fans were out there. I guess Phoenix is a massive basketball town. Congrats to the Suns. I mean, there's an asterisk next to that win to make this Suns in four, but maybe the refs saw what Suns in I mean, there's an asterisk next to that win to make the Suns in four,
Starting point is 01:31:25 but maybe the refs saw what Suns in four guy did in the crowd, acknowledged how awesome it was, and said, all right, let's get the MVP out of here, a guy who has 20 rebounds, 20 points almost every single night, and make this easier. But good for the Suns. You're right, AJ. I didn't like getting kicked out of that game for that either.
Starting point is 01:31:42 I mean, the NBA should not be happy that it happened either, but, okay, like I ask you every time, do the Suns have a real chance? NBA is a part of that. What? NBA is a part of that decision, for sure. But not in the moment, though. Yeah, they go to make the call, dude. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:31:54 Oh, yeah. They go. How fast did he eject him? How fast from when it happened to when he actually ejected him? Any ejection, they go to the thing and they do the thing. Okay, well, if they talk to him before they eject him, yeah, the NBA isn't on. Tim Donahue told us. He hit the monitor and says, he's on.
Starting point is 01:32:10 Wait, did they review it? Did he put a head on? They go review it and then it comes down. It was like a five-minute break. But they always put the thing on. I assume every time they put the thing on, Adam Silver's just sitting there on the other side. Get him out.
Starting point is 01:32:24 I don't know. Okay. He's got to go. Well, then the NBA is trying to set a tone like, hey, we're not going to deal with any of this foolishness. Well, foolishness is the fact that LeBron and Drake are at high school basketball games and not in the tourney still. Whenever you said— Did they go? I didn't see it.
Starting point is 01:32:39 I didn't notice. Yeah, I heard they were at a high school basketball game. Me too, AJ. I didn't see it, but I heard they were there as well. LeBron did have a mask because... Drake. He's not. Drake did not have a mask.
Starting point is 01:32:51 He walked in and gave one of these. Oh, nice. Hey, we're together, but we ain't the same. Uh-uh. All right. Everybody know it's okay. Don't be breathing in his mouth. Come on, breathe in my mouth.
Starting point is 01:33:05 All right. I guess Kyrie Irving, he rolled his ankle pretty bad. Pretty bad. On Giannis' real G's move in silence like Giannis on his foot, actually. That thing turned over completely. Now, walking off the court, he did try to put a little pressure on it it seemed like while he was getting help with the ankle seemed like he felt like it was maybe better than it could have been uh i'm not sure there's been a diagnosis yet but with hard not with the
Starting point is 01:33:35 hamstring and now kairi out with the ankle we're gonna learn a lot about kevin durant and chris paul hey and d book they seem to be a team that's kissed by the basketball gods right now. Chris Paul's never won. What's his legacy? What's his legacy everybody's talking about? I'll tell you what it is. During his seven-game win streak, 226 minutes he's played. Okay.
Starting point is 01:33:57 Nope. 94-plus minutes he's played. You're right. You're right. 226. Yeah. Oh, he's minuses. Yeah. Oh, he's plus 94?
Starting point is 01:34:06 Yeah. Oh, so that's when he's on the court what the score differential is, right? Right. Okay, plus 94 is his plus minus. 535 touches, 51 to 95 on his field goal. That's 54%, no big deal. Hasn't missed a free throw. This is JJ Redick at Duke.
Starting point is 01:34:22 Yeah. 68 assists and only eight turnovers. He's been unconscious and i think through this entire time he's been battling some shoulder injury as well chris paul alongside devin booker in that hey what's the video from the player he's yeah it is i mean whenever he gets up out of his uh bentley maybe rolls not 100 sure Look at this. That's awesome. Awesome, dude. You know, we've been told that Phoenix is a great basketball town because of the teams back in the day. Dan Marley, man.
Starting point is 01:34:52 Thanks to Dan. Barkley as well. And I think Steve Nash is out there. Murray Stoudemire. And they're all the way back. Good for them. Give Chris Paul. He turned down.
Starting point is 01:35:00 Chris Paul turned down some deal, right? Yeah, $44 million. He's probably going to make $100 some again. Yeah, that's what he's looking for 36 years old good for him can't thank you enough for choosing to listen to the show the fact you allow us to penetrate your ear holes on a daily basis i am eternally grateful for there's a lot of other stuff out there the fact that you spend time with us every day i am very very grateful for thank you so much i don't know why why, but I appreciate it. If you like this show, obviously, you're around this long, unless you hate listening, and if you're doing as such,
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