The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 439 - Feel Good Friday, Darius Butler, Sean O’Malley, Ian Rapoport, and AJ Hawk

Episode Date: June 18, 2021

Todays episode Pat and the boys are joined in studio by former NFL DB, Pat’s former teammate and current host of The Man to Man Pod, Darius Butler. The boys are down in Tampa as Pat prepares for ano...ther episode of Friday Night Smack DAHN on Fox. Pat opens up today’s show with sending it back to Indy with the Hammer DAHN boys who have rather large bet placed o a Euro’s soccer match. Pat then gets into it with MMA fighter Suga Sean O’Malley previews his upcoming fight and has an electric overall conversation. Next NFL insider Ian Rapoport joins Pat to discuss the latest rumors around the NFL. Pat and Darius react to the breaking news of tomorrow, juneteenth becoming an official national holiday. Pat finishes off the show with a surprise visit from AJ Hawk. Make sure to subscribe to  youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow and listen every day on Mad Dog Radio, Sirius XM Channel 82. We appreciate you all for listening, come laugh with us, cheers.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 What's up everybody? It is Friday, June 18th. You are listening to the Pat McAfee Show 2.0. You know the drill. Pat ran to do Friday Night Smackdown tonight on Fox at 8 p.m. It is truly a feel-good Friday. Today's show, we got Darius Butler in studio down at the Tampa Bay Beach House. Sugar Sean O'Malley joins the show. Ian Rappaport joins the show. Perfect way to send you into your Father's Day weekend. Let's get into it.
Starting point is 00:00:33 What a day. It's always fantastic to get down here because the weather is incredibly hot. The beach looks fantastic. And joining us in touch every other Feel Good Friday, shout out to CBDMD, ladies and gentlemen, nine-year NFL vet, Darius J. Butler. Hey, yo. Host of the Man to Man podcast and also everything DB. We appreciate the hell out of you for joining us.
Starting point is 00:00:55 Darius Butler at Boston Connors here. Ty Schmidt is here. The camera working back there. We appreciate you, boys. Thank you, guys. 18334 McAfee is how you get involved in this show today. Bring it if you get on. We can't wait to chat with you.
Starting point is 00:01:10 Two massive guests aside from just Darius, who has become a part of the show now at this point on film, and from Sugar Land. Minutes or so. He has a fight coming up, I think, in like 24 days or something like that. Cannot wait to chat with him. Saw him bomb a football with his right foot just a week or two ago. Real, hey, like an actual bomb of a football.
Starting point is 00:01:31 Incredible, incredible punt. It was great for the brand. And the guy who was murdered the other day by Chris Long, Ian Rappaport, host of Rap Sheet and Friends will join us in the one o'clock Eastern Daylight Time just to let us know what the hell we should be potentially talking about in the NFL world. I guess big story this morning. Miami Dolphins have got a slide in their facility. Oh, nice.
Starting point is 00:01:52 Yeah, seems to be a two-story slide. 81-year-old owner, Steven Ross, who did appear to look like a dressed-up bag of bones, slid down that thing and then, boom, pops onto the pad there. Absolutely electrifying thing to add to an office is a slide. I was once in an office that had the slide. It was used, I was told, the first weekend. Yeah. And then?
Starting point is 00:02:15 Never again. Yeah. But the fact that they're adding a slide is like, hey, we're fun. We're having a good time. This is a good retreat. Good camaraderie builder. Hey, let's have a blast. Let's put a little.
Starting point is 00:02:24 We're even a bit of a specialized Miami Dolphins pad to put down at the bottom. That fits perfectly. Cincinnati Bengals still don't have an indoor practice facility. Dolphins are dancing around with fucking slides in-house. Cincinnati Bengals still don't have an indoor practice facility. Darius, would you be sliding on this slide every day if this was in
Starting point is 00:02:40 your building? I mean, I feel like it's better use for this money. Maybe like, you know, giving Xavier Howard a little more. So he shows up happy while Ross. Come on, make your ex back in the building for you. I don't know. Look at those. Those players look pretty excited.
Starting point is 00:02:54 Yeah, that's true. That's true. Hey, those employees of that man look pumped to celebrate alongside his decision here to have the slot. Okay, to a building. All right, I'm all about it. I do believe this bucket of money is probably not the same as the X bucket of money. But with that being said, noted.
Starting point is 00:03:12 There was one time I was in negotiation with the Colts, and Jim Irsay had purchased a $2 million drum set in the middle of it. And I was like, excuse me, I'd like an extra $50,000. They're like, no, can't do it. It's like, oh, that's different. Okay, I got it. I understand. Speaking of money, there is a massive first half happening in the Euros today.
Starting point is 00:03:32 Immediately following the Foxy flick that debuts at 3 o'clock, giving away another $1,000 and maybe even more in that Foxy flick debuting at 3 p.m. Eastern Daylight Time. YouTube.com forward slash the Pat McAfee Show. Big shout out to Foxy for his work, by the way. Immediately following that, though, is going to be a little bit of a grinder for the boys back in Indianapolis,
Starting point is 00:03:55 the Hammered Down Boys, who have been living on a heater that the world has never seen before in the sports gambling world. There's been somebody who's been successful for a long, long time in sports gambling, and he actually ended up going to jail for having insider information these two stooges have no insider information these two stooges just post up in indianapolis and just let it rip after diving deep into the depths of delusion that the fan duel sportsbook
Starting point is 00:04:22 has put out there a lot of people think all those bets are a hustle. The house always wins. What Diggs and Gumpy have been doing, finding bets that are locks, I think they're like 30 and 5 or something like that over the last few days. Absolute heater, absolute scorcher. The only one they're truly worried about right now, though, Gumpy for fan reasons because he loves England because he's been paying taxes to the queen
Starting point is 00:04:45 in canada his entire life right so he loves england like that's their their team or whatever but if if england wins the first half against scotland today after the flick they will win ten thousand dollars the hammer down boys and bonuses okay the hammer down boys will win $10,000 in bonuses. Diggs actually had to log into my account today, back in Indiana, to put the bet in that I said I was going to put in because it turns out the odds were getting worse and worse
Starting point is 00:05:15 for the first half money line, actually. I thought it was potentially going to get better. So I forgot that I was going to a state that didn't have it yet. Hey, Florida, let's fucking go. Let's go, dude. Let this thing happen. Let's make this thing happen. And then Diggs logged in to his credit, did not take any of the money,
Starting point is 00:05:30 did not cash out any money, did not transfer any money, put the $14,000 bet in this morning at the minus 140 odds or whatever. Hammered down, boys. How do we feel about England that first half in this massive? We're having to clean up the entire fucking office if Scotland wins that first half. Your thoughts, boys? Yeah, the entire fucking office if Scotland wins that first half. Your thoughts, boys? Yeah, first and foremost,
Starting point is 00:05:47 when we made this initial offer, it was minus 130. I'm sure Fandel heard that and was like, fuck, if Pat says bet, that bet's definitely going to happen. And then when I went into your account today and did 14,000 to win 10 on the minus 140, I had six people check.
Starting point is 00:06:04 I put in thousands and thousands of bets in my life. And I made everyone in here check to make sure that I did it right, even though I've done it a billion times. If you're a fan, it feels like there's an AFC championship happening today for me. Like, I am fucking, I've been pacing around. And, like, just because of the bet and the money, I am jacked. I can't even imagine what Gumpy feels like right now. Yeah, there's no sleep last night, Pat.
Starting point is 00:06:30 If they win this thing, there will be reasons for noise complaints at the old apartment game. Hey, hey, it's a rainy night in London just the way we like it. We're bringing it home, England first half. Here we go, lad. Hey, rainy, huh? A little bit of an under probably gonna be a kg affair maybe that ball's gonna be skipping out there what do you
Starting point is 00:06:48 think maybe get a penalty for old airy eye tackle hey wouldn't that be tough if it was a draw like most soccer has been yeah yeah and i lose out obviously on fourteen thousand dollars right oh shit they have to clean the office and that like 99% of what happens in soccer games. And the boys back there aren't sleeping. They're ready to celebrate. Diggs gets nervous putting the bet in a team that he cares nothing about now. He has a direct relationship with because there's probably a couple thousand dollars coming into his bank. I don't know how they're going to split it.
Starting point is 00:07:23 What are you going to do with the – how are you going to split it what are you going to do with the how are you going to split have you figured that out yet i had an idea and you were like this the bet is for the hammered down crew and pretty much every single human being in the office has been on hammered down and i thought you like maybe we should just split it amongst the office and then you you i mean you you fronted it so you take whatever you want but the rest of it, we split it amongst the office, except for one human being, Evan Foxy. He gets fucking nothing. Oh, you scumbag!
Starting point is 00:07:53 Whoa, what happened? And also, there will be one share that goes to someone who is watching Hammered Down Live today, right after the Foxy flick, which he does a great job every single week on Mr. Friday Night. He came in here like he normally does, and he tried mushing the fuck out of this bet. He came in here, and he took Scotland first half yesterday. Wow!
Starting point is 00:08:15 Let's go, man! This dude is demonic, bro. What is that? Why are you doing that, Foxy? Why do you got to do that? This is a big thing for not only the Hammerdown boys, their fans, the whole office. How about me? How about the entire country of England, too?
Starting point is 00:08:32 Why are you getting involved in this? I said I'm very excited for the boys. They can win a lot of money today. But you know what helps me out, Pat, is a clean office. And I want them to clean every single bit of that office. Let's go. It's coming home to Scotland. Anything good is happening.
Starting point is 00:08:48 People are happy. This scumbag comes and sits in that chair every goddamn time. He's crossed the line. It'd be a real shame if an alligator came through that back fucking window and I heard there's no Daners over here, by the way, because we are. Yeah, because golf's over here. We got salt water. Do me a favor then, Pat. Put a puck
Starting point is 00:09:06 in his fucking teeth. I do not have a stick down here. I wish I did. The last time we did that, I started banging the ice. Hammer down, boys. We'll check back in with you probably closer to when your money is either being made or the office is being cleaned by you guys. Appreciate you guys. Good luck
Starting point is 00:09:22 out there. Great fights on July 10th at UFC 64 against Louis Smolka in a Bantamweight division battle. Another right hand from Sugar Land is inevitable. This person has become one of our favorite internet humans, let alone fighters. Ladies and gentlemen, the Bantamweight champion of the future, the undefeated when fighting actual fights,
Starting point is 00:09:49 Sugar Sean O'Malley. That's what I'm talking about. Thank you, guys. Thank you. I'm jacked to be here. Hey, I'm jacked that you're here, dude. We got to fight a little bit away. Are we training?
Starting point is 00:10:00 We're gaming. We're living. We're chilling. What's going on right now in your life? A little bit of everything. Gaming today. I'm going to take the day off. Got sparring tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:10:10 Three rounds with three fresh people. So I'm basically fighting three people for five. I'm feeling real good. It's been a long, hard week. Sparring tomorrow. Yeah, I grabbed a large coffee on the way here today because I knew I was going to be on the show. Usually I get a medium, but I grabbed a large coffee on the way on the way here today because i knew i was gonna be on the show usually i get a medium but i got the large today let's go enjoy it too it's running through my veins yeah absolutely and i could see it by the way it's coming through your
Starting point is 00:10:35 voice they're electrifying every time you start to speak pal thanks to that large coffee and to you for existing in general but let's talk about your sparring tomorrow uh three rounds five minute rounds new fighter every single round so you're fighting fresh is that full fights is there helmets on are we hitting like and is tomorrow a really big is the reason why you're resting for it is because this is like an actual gauge for you on what you potentially have to work on until july 10th or is it just you want to beat up everybody you fight? No, it's just a natural progression throughout camp. You know, I start at the beginning of camp one round, do one round, do one round for a couple weeks, and then two rounds.
Starting point is 00:11:13 And now tomorrow will be three rounds. Everyone does their, you know, there's headgear worn, and tomorrow's MMA round, so we'll use 7-ounce puffy gloves and shin guards. You take care of your partner. You don't try to knock them out to the head. You go pretty much 100% to the body. I had one of the sweetest finishes.
Starting point is 00:11:36 You're not supposed to talk about sparring, so I'm not going to bring up names, but I had one of the sweetest finishes ever on Saturday. It wasn't a head shot. I try not to hurt. You don't want to hurt your partners, but the liver, the body is pretty much good to go for everybody when you're sparring.
Starting point is 00:11:51 I had one of the cleanest body shots of all time on Saturday. I wish I could post it, but it's just not. You're not supposed to post sparring rounds, but it was just so clean. You should blur the guy's face. I assume that there's a way yeah there's a way you could do it without exposing old buddy for eating a liver shot
Starting point is 00:12:10 you know what i mean or maybe i don't know what the mma rules are it's uncouth or whatever uh nfl practices just recently started getting posted people's even filmed because it was always the similar thing i think now guys are starting to post it because i think it's just a little bit more understood you crush by the way but let's let's talk about your uh comment after the nate diaz fight and by the way you stole a show a couple times by the way popping your head in there look good in the suit by the way look at you all huh huh huh i actually came in late because you weren't fighting and i saw you poke your head in and that was when i asked like hey is this dude going to get his own solo camera what the fuck are we doing i guess you got one earlier i wasn't happy about it yeah they should have put me on a little later but it's okay yeah i mean they know they know
Starting point is 00:12:53 where the money is july 10th they know this whole thing you said though speaking of money nate diaz lost that fight right and i don't know if this is why you said it but watching along nate diaz lost that fight he had him out on his feet there i think at the end i don't know if this is why you said it, but watching along. Nate Diaz lost that fight. He had him out on his feet there, I think, at the end. I don't know if he didn't know or whatever the case was. But he was a draw. He'll be a draw. He had that whole place chanting for him forever because of the style of his fighting. You put out a tweet that said, you're going to put on beautiful performances.
Starting point is 00:13:18 I think this is. And by the way, the last time you had the guy dead with a left hand, you let him live. Hey, pick him up. Let him live. So you can knock him dead with a left hand you let him live hey pick him up let him live so you can knock him out with a right hand so you can sell the merch another right hand from sugar land right do we still have the merch yeah no i i had a different shirt actually but yeah yeah keep going keep going well i'm complimenting you that you get it though i feel like this is this is a real thing like hey in fighting you have to, and I'm in the W-W-W, you know, combat promotion, how you do it.
Starting point is 00:13:47 Like, I think you're so good for the UFC. I assume they know that. And if you put on beautiful performances and knock folks out, like, God damn, I can't wait to watch you become champion for what, the next 10, 15 years or just dominance? Yep. Yep, next 10 years.
Starting point is 00:14:00 I think I said insanely beautiful performances. Okay, sorry. No, it's okay, it's okay it's okay but i think they're gonna truly be insane i uh i feel like i just bring something different to the to the octagon when i'm in there i think it's just you know even just watching fights on tv it's just i feel like i bring a different energy a different level of excitement into into the octagon and i was thinking last night i don't know if you're too familiar with Peter Jan, the Russian. He's not champ right now.
Starting point is 00:14:27 I thought he won that fight. He didn't know the rules going into the fight and lost. But I think me versus Peter in Russia is going to be an extremely huge event someday. And I think that's going to be a big fight. I've got to get through Luis Smolka. I have a name in mind to call out. I'd knock that dude out, and then I think I'd going to be a big fight. I've got to get through Luis Smolka. I have a name in mind to call out. I'd knock that dude out, and then I think I'd get that Peter fight.
Starting point is 00:14:50 So I'm just working my way up the ladder. So, yes, are you young in the game? I should know this. I should have done more research. But are you young in the game, and do you expect that you have to get a couple wins to get up in there? Because I feel like in the fight game, you have no idea you get a big win it's like i want the guy immediately after there that's almost the thing you are you young in this game is that why you're like i understand i still got to kind of go because for me if i'm dana i'm putting a strap on you immediately like
Starting point is 00:15:19 hey let's get this guy up there but is it just kind of the process is that kind of how it all goes yeah i think a lot of people are expecting a bigger name um coming into this fight they gave they offered me luis smolka um which who's a ufc vet i think he's got 13 14 15 ufc fights um he's not the most well-known guy he's definitely a dangerous opponent uh i knocked out thomas almeida a lot of people thought i was gonna get a top 10 guy, including myself, but they offered me Luis Smolka. I'm getting paid the same amount, whether I fight Luis Smolka, or I say, I don't even know if I can say no. I don't want to fight him. I want to fight someone else. They offered me him. I accepted the fight. I just had to go out there, put his lights out the way that I do, and I just kind of hope that I'm going to... I got to say something clever on the
Starting point is 00:16:04 mic. That's part of the game. Like I said, you to – I've got to say something clever on the mic. That's part of the game. Like I said, you get 15 minutes plus a little bit of time on the mic to say what I've got to say. So I think with a good performance and a good callout, I'll get the name that I want and it's up from there. Are you practicing your promo while tired? Like tomorrow, after those three fights. Are you practicing the promo while tired? Like tomorrow after, after those three fights,
Starting point is 00:16:25 are you practicing the promo too? So you. Dude, that's a good idea. I gotta think about that. I gotta get my heart. I gotta hit like a couple of sprints on the treadmill and grab a mic. And that's a good idea. Make sure my heart rate's up when I'm,
Starting point is 00:16:37 when I'm trying to spit fire on the mic. So there's a hilarious story about OutKast. OutKast, whenever they came out with Stankonia and everything, they were in high school. They used to run laps around their neighborhood while rapping so that they could perform and do everything like that so they could do it. Then once I got into the WWE and I started doing some things
Starting point is 00:16:57 and then I had to talk afterwards, there was a couple. Okay, Jesus Christ, I am dead tired. The brain in the mouth is not as good. I think the promo game is a big deal, and you only get a couple times a year to perform. So I think we got to, you know what I mean? You're the guy. We need it. Yeah, no, I think I have some ideas in my head right now.
Starting point is 00:17:14 I'm going to have to go home after this and practice those. That was a brilliant idea. Thank you. Hey, no problem. Is this your studio here? Yeah, this is my gaming house. My little brother just moved down from Montana, so they're staying at, this is my gaming house. My little brother just moved down from Montana, so they're staying at my house, my gaming house. I just have one of my rooms set up to stream and game. Speaking of gaming, I was taking some notes from your VR boxing.
Starting point is 00:17:36 Oh, shit. I have a couple things that might help, some ideas. All right. I've been watching your tutorials, by the way. Oh, good. So that should help. That might help. Some ideas. I've been watching your tutorials, by the way. Oh, good. That should help. Cardio, first thing. Obviously, you've got to maybe get some more nasal breaths. You're heavily mouth-breathing.
Starting point is 00:17:55 Which is fine. It's part of fighting. You get tired. You can't fight with a shirt on. That'll fuck you up. First and second of all. Yeah, you're right. You have a nice right hand. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:18:08 But you got to mix it up. You can't throw seven in a row. At some point, it's going to hit. You know what I mean? But I think if you mix it up, maybe you threw a couple jabs in there. I did like that. But maybe double up the jab. Power and speed.
Starting point is 00:18:22 I'm serious. It was beautiful right hand. Power and speed. But maybe level change. Hit him with a jab up high maybe a jab to the body and then come over the top with that right hand um i thought i thought overall though your performance was pretty good on the videos that my little brother and i were just watching um when you do switch southpaw maybe uh you know work on your left hand a little bit. But other than that, I thought you looked good. Whoa. Hey, people are saying, more specifically, my opponents in the Oculus with their reactions to my punches.
Starting point is 00:18:53 Left hand's got lightning too, pal. It looks fast. You just didn't throw it enough. I just saw right hand over right hand over right hand. Left every once in a while. But I actually have never done that. And I look very entertaining. It looked like a good workout.
Starting point is 00:19:11 Okay. Seeing us today every Friday in the house is Darius Butler. He was in the NFL nine years. He was a teammate of mine. He just got the Oculus two days ago or last night. He was boxing last night. Now, he's knocked out nobody. But he looks really good. It's real. No, no, not yet. Not yet. Now, he's knocked out nobody. But he looks really good. It's real.
Starting point is 00:19:27 No, no, not yet. Not yet. You haven't knocked anybody out yet. But it's real in there. He's in much better shape than I. But it's like a great workout. For you, obviously, you don't need it. But it's awesome in there.
Starting point is 00:19:37 Yeah, it's some good cardio, man. I was working on my jabs. I wasn't just throwing haymakers in there. But you figured out the little glitches on the game to get knocks out. I figured it out. No, no, there's no glitches on the game to get Knox out. I figured it out. No, no, there's no glitches. There's no glitches. It is a real thing.
Starting point is 00:19:49 He figured out a little cheat code. Yeah, he got something. He knows what he's doing. When you train there, okay, because I train in the Oculus. I'm fighting guys from the Philippines. I'm fighting guys from Mexico. You know, these guys. The toughest.
Starting point is 00:20:03 By the way, it's hard to make them bleed. They're robots. You know what I mean? It's tough. But I do that whole thing. Do you just understand that you have a good jaw or your skin or your body can take good hits? I don't get hit.
Starting point is 00:20:15 Okay. All right. That's good. You know, I think the biggest thing. Who's that? Is that Dana White? Oh, your mom. Okay.
Starting point is 00:20:23 I thought it was Dana. The biggest thing for me, even since started on 16 is like i didn't i didn't like getting hit that was always like the number one thing for me was how can i hit this dude and not get hit and it's just i've created a style around that thankfully for me i'm long lengthy um so pretty much everyone i fight i can stay at the end of my jab at the end of my distance and uh you know obviously i've been hit you get hit i do have a pretty good job from not getting Pretty much everyone I fight, I can stay at the end of my jab, at the end of my distance. Obviously, I've been hit. You get hit.
Starting point is 00:20:50 I do have a pretty good job from not getting hit so much. But yeah, the goal is to not get hit and not get hit once. That's the goal. And that's, in my mind, realistic. That's how I plan on going. I don't think— Hey, what is the Bantamweight? Because you seem to be very tall, right, in the Bantamweight. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:03 And that's like— It's 136—or 135 pounds with a pound allowance um right now i'm 155 pounds so that's pretty pretty average for for most fighters cutting 20 pounds walking around 20 pounds once i once i get up to 160 162 i'll probably move up a weight class but for for now uh bantamweight division it's not easy it's not fun to make the weight class it sucks every time um but it's just how the rules are not rules it's just how the the the athletes compete right now is by cutting that much weight were you a wrestler growing up that's what you've just been spitting into buckets and and doing the bathtub since you're in high school no No. How'd you get into this? Jiu-Jitsu,
Starting point is 00:21:50 fighting, street fighting? I hated Jiu-Jitsu and wrestling. I got in just kickboxing. Just my buddy asked if I wanted to go check out a fighting gym. And basically it was, you know, it was back in Helena, Montana. There's no legit coaches. There's no high level coaches there. It was basically, you know, sparring every class, hit mitts a little bit and then spar um and i was just naturally you know pretty good at it knocking people out when i was 16 and i thought you know that's probably where i got a lot of confidence from was was dropping people out at such an early age i've been knocking people out for 10 years now i'm almost too confident sometimes uh go ahead darrys hey going going a fight. I know going into games for me, music was important. I was a chill guy, slow jam type guy actually before games.
Starting point is 00:22:30 What type of music do you listen to going into a fight? And where does that get your mindset? Yeah, that's a really good question. So once we get to the arena, I'd say about if we're there an hour early, I'll throw on some Jack Johnson, something slower, something mellow, something chill. Um, just kind of breathing, getting into my breath. Um, and then I'd say about 20 minutes before we'll switch it up to some, some DMX.
Starting point is 00:22:58 Okay. Just, you know, we'll get gangster for a little bit. Okay. I like that. You know, I feel we're going into war. The first half, chilling, getting into my breath. In the second half, I'm still feeling my breath. That's the constant.
Starting point is 00:23:15 It's just constantly nasal breathing, feeling the breath into my air. But, yeah, it's 20 minutes. We'll flip a switch, throw on some gangster music and just feel good. Must be nice to be able to breathe through your nose, Sean. All right, I don't know if you didn't ride a bike into the side of a truck as a child. You know, that kind of ruined my entire hopes and dreams. When you're walking out to the cage, have you had a packed arena for any of your fights? You have.
Starting point is 00:23:43 And I thought of this as the diaz fight was happening so i apologize but that's the most recent that entire place popped for him that entire place soon as he walked in there that walk to a cage to go fight another human while a crowd is basically chanting to you to kill kill kill how that has to be fucking on that's a tough high to chase i assume i don't know how many of those you ever find outside of that situation right yeah that uh you know my last well i fought it i'm fighting at t-mobile arena again in vegas my my uh i fought there march um last year i think it was right before covid so fought, it was like one last event, uh, that had,
Starting point is 00:24:25 uh, fans there before COVID was, was my last fight at T-Mobile arena. So yeah, I kind of forget, you know, I've made three walks in the silence at the UFC apex. So you kind of forget what it's like, uh, being at the fights last weekend was a good reminder. Um, for me, I'm always, I do a really good job of, you know, I have one job, I have one mission. That's stay calm, stay focused, get to the cage. I enjoy the walkout. I usually walk out pretty slow. You know, I take a look around, see the fans, hear the music.
Starting point is 00:24:57 I do a good job of taking it all in. But, yeah, it's a big, you know, some people let the crowd get to them too much, get too hyped before the fight. I like to save as much energy as possible for that 15 minutes that I have to go to war. So I don't get too hyped. I do a perfect amount of a warm-up in the back to where I'm not – to where I'm warmed up. I'm not going to get injured in there like I almost did when I punted that football. I didn't warm up enough. injured in there. Um, like I almost did when I punted that football,
Starting point is 00:25:25 I didn't warm up enough. So, uh, I gotta, you gotta make sure I'm warmed up plenty and, uh, make the walk. I want to, I want to let you know, sugar, Sean, I hope our friendship grows and blossoms and continues. But if, if you would've got hurt doing what I did for a living, that would have been, that would have been tough for you. I every conversation you know what i mean like tingled for a second i was like oh i warmed up i thought i warmed up enough i hit a couple laps hit a couple stretches uh but realistically it wasn't enough hey you fucking bombed that thing i mean i don't know i don't know if that is ever something you do
Starting point is 00:25:59 kickboxing it makes sense you bombed that ball it's very impressive go ahead connor yeah sean you just mentioned uh moving up weight classes is your goal to be a double champ and have the bantamweight belt and you know the 155 belt or you're just gonna you know see how it goes yeah yeah the bantamweight 135 and then the featherweights which 145 but yeah of course that's the that's the goal i have a good frame, a good body size for that. Some people don't have the right frame to be able to go from one class to another. And for me, 35 to 45 is only 10 pounds. So it's easier than going from like 55 to 70, which is obviously more.
Starting point is 00:26:40 But yeah, that's the goal. Be bantamweight champ in the next couple of years i've um i mean i'm gonna be in this sport for probably another 10 years so we could be looking at a champ champ champ depending upon how comfortable you get at meals too you never know you might be able to yeah you never know might move up a little bit exactly what do you eat nothing do you eat all year round do you just are you a grilled chicken guy no yeah i'm a i'm a super clean. I get my blood tested, my saliva, my stool, my pee. I get it all tested and have a guy named Dan Garner. He lives in Canada.
Starting point is 00:27:11 He studies all the results that I get from the labs according to what I should be eating. So I do that a couple times a year. Some food causes inflammation. You know, I don't know the science behind it. I'm a fighter and a gamer and a punter, not a fucking scientist. So I just – I listen to what they say. Right now I'm out of steak, eating a lot of beef.
Starting point is 00:27:35 Right now I'm not eating beef or chicken. I'm eating more bison, lamb, turkey. So I get my blood tested, get all that stuff tested to make sure I'm eating the right foods for my body type specifically. So I eat pretty clean all year round. So Dan Garner is just saying, give me your shit, dude. Let me look through this stuff. I just send my shit to him and he just looks at it and figures out what I eat. Tyga.
Starting point is 00:28:04 Sean, it's pretty obvious that you love what you do and you know like you're you're obviously a rising superstar in the ufc but do you ever look at you know like the mayweather versus paul and like these kind of like celebrity sideshow fights and and think like ah shit like it's it's tough to want to turn something like that down when the bag is just so big or are you just all focused on getting uh the strap in the ufc yeah um the paul brothers logan and jake are my buddies i i take inspiration from that genius by the way genius i love it i think they're killing it you know one of my before i got in the ufc before i even started really fighting i wanted to be an entertainer that's what i wanted
Starting point is 00:28:42 to be and that's what jake and lo are. They were entertainers moving into the fight game. I'm in the fight game working my way up so I can move into the entertainment game. I want to, you know, be, do both. I have five, four or five more fights on my UFC contract. I have potentially some big offers from, from other companies that, uh, that are more entertainment rather than, um, you know, I, I see myself being in the UFC forever. It's just that hopefully, um, you know, I, I, I see myself being in the UFC forever. It's just that hopefully, um, you know, I'll be able to get paid as much in the UFC as I will from another company. That's going to be offering me a lot of money to do these kinds of crazy fights that, uh, more celebrity boxing or celebrity fighting or whatever it turns out to be. But
Starting point is 00:29:21 yeah, I love watching them. I was excited for Logan versus floyd i was oh i was i was excited i was i love i love it you said celebrity fighting is there look do you have a little bit of an ear to the ground that there's potential mixed martial arts celebrities about to happen is that what's going to happen you think or you just think it's going to evolve eventually at some point it's hard to say with fight real fighting um boxing you can get away with a little bit it's just so much less that goes into it um for celebrities that actually don't know how to you can go train for two months like the youtubers tiktokers go train for two months and put on a boxing event and be somewhat entertaining um you can't really do that with fights um if if one person knows uh like a couple
Starting point is 00:30:03 years of wrestling or someone that fights... That's over. That's over, by the way. That's just absolutely over. That's just a scoop tackle. When's Pat getting in the ring? I don't like getting hit in the actual face. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:30:16 Yeah, I agree. I don't either. I'm not as quick as you, Bob. I would just eat it. That's why that truck got me when I was like, yeah, exactly. And want to do that and to be honest i don't want to get what is a booty up in the air yeah i don't want to get booty up in the air either you know what i mean but i do respect the people that go out there and put themselves into that potential position i think i have a lot of respect for it but i don't think the time has come for me yet let me knock out a
Starting point is 00:30:42 couple more people in that oculus and start feeling myself, and then I'll get going. Let's talk about the business here before we let you go, and I can't thank you enough for your time here. Just, what, 20-some days before your fight here July 10th, one day before a massive sparring session to see where you're at. Let's talk about the business, because you seem to be a good businessman, obviously. Gaming, you're in the game, you're entertaining.
Starting point is 00:31:04 Content business, you're incredible at game you're entertaining content business you're incredible at it over there you obviously focus on it you have an entire gaming house your merch legendary you thinking about your merch in the middle of your oh this shirt the way that this shirt came about was was was i don't know genius some might say um yeah the sugar state athletic commission obviously with that one fight that i uh got kicked to the perennial nerve um was was wild and uh but i talked to the sugar state athletic commission and they overturned it they said it didn't count that shit was it doesn't so officially undefeated now they overturned it officially the
Starting point is 00:31:43 record books even state now. The Sugar State Athletic Commission went on record saying that I am 13-0. Wow. It's a big deal. Hey, congratulations. It's not just a big deal for you, but future fighters. Yeah, that's right. You know, in the future of the sport when that potentially happens
Starting point is 00:32:03 and you can get caught and the Sugar State says, hey, listen, we got some stuff for you to make you feel better. OK, you can blow some trees if you like to. But also we're going to be fair and down the center here. Shout out to sugar state. We're going to buy 10, 10 of those. We'll give away 10 of those shirts. If you tweet right now, PMS sugar state hashtag PMS, then S.U.G.A.
Starting point is 00:32:25 Then S.T.A-T-E. We'll give away 10 shirts. We'll buy them and give them away. Thank you, bro. No, thank you for your time. Thank you for your commitment to potentially getting bodied for our entertainment. And then also, on the other side, body bagging people for our entertainment. Ladies and gentlemen. Hopefully we do that.
Starting point is 00:32:41 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sugar Sean O'Malley. Hey, thank you guys, man. That was awesome. Oh, you're awesome, dude. O'Malley. Hey, thank you guys, man. That was awesome. Oh, you're awesome, dude. Thank you. See you, dude. Yes, sir. Have a good one. Need a strap on him. Yeah, immediately. Maybe two of them. That's the truth. Maybe three of them.
Starting point is 00:32:56 Do you know that guy existed? Of course. Come on, man. Sugar Sean undefeated. 13-0. Whenever he did the... I think that was when I met him, right? He had the braids in. I think he did a shimmy at one point in the middle of the fight. I think he even did one of those.
Starting point is 00:33:13 The braids were all different colors, right? Yeah. And then the next fight he had, after that performance, the next fight he had, he knocks a guy basically out left-hand. Guy's out. He goes down. Literally looks at him and backs up. And the commentator's like, what is he doing? Basically not taking advantage or whatever.
Starting point is 00:33:31 I don't know how many seconds later it was. It was a right. The guy was dead. And he came onto our show and said, yeah, I had him down there, but I already had merch made. And it said another right hand from Sugar Land. So he let this guy. Oh, that's some legendary.
Starting point is 00:33:46 Yeah, that's what I was like. In the ring, this guy is like, oh, god damn, I didn't. Get up. Get up, please. Come on, guys. This is $10,000 to $15,000 in overhead. Okay, and merch that I have already in the warehouse ready to ship out. Get up.
Starting point is 00:34:00 Oh, he gets up. Okay, thank god. We're not through. By the way, you should have just been doing what I did the entire fight sean right hand should just throw it right hand after right hand uh we got to get to a break we're back on the other side uh more conversation about what's going on in the world big thanks to sugar sean i'm a massive fan of that yeah he's incredible i'm a massive fan of that guy and if you weren't watching along at youtube.com forward slash the pat mcafee show tell him the volume was really far down.
Starting point is 00:34:28 That's on me. It's on here. It was turned down. I apologize. But Jay, good work back there. Everybody back in Indianapolis. Good work. And big thanks to Sean for joining us, man.
Starting point is 00:34:36 He's electrifying. Yeah. Yeah. What's the other companies are paying more that are more in the entertainment business? I don't know. You just got to be thinking about those, you know, the show times, and see what they're doing, that type of stuff. Imagine him just boxing these celebrities. It would just be so much fun.
Starting point is 00:34:50 That'd be awesome. UFC celebrity fights? Yeah, he made a good point about that. That would not be good. See, I would feel much more comfortable in that as opposed to a boxing thing. Really? No.
Starting point is 00:35:01 Yeah, yeah, I think so. Against another celebrity? Yeah, I'm not fighting a real fighter. Oh, okay oh okay okay okay okay i am spearing this person yeah and then by the way if they lift them up okay cool we're going right back down to the ground i that i think against a celebrity yeah for sure that is something i'm with you but actual fighter no fucking chance by the way put on the oculus it's a real fight you can break a couple legs i think so so, yeah, with the kicking too.
Starting point is 00:35:26 Like, I think I could really get going. But I don't think you're going to see me in a lot of those things, situations, unless there is a hilarious guarantee on that thing. Yes. I won't pull a Kinseiko. I won't dive. You know what I mean? I wouldn't do that. I wouldn't put up a fight. Yeah, you have to. The reason why
Starting point is 00:35:42 I don't do it is because I have no idea how it would go in there. Because in the Oculus, it feels very easy. You know what I mean? When I just line them up and knock them down. Since the first time I put that on my head. Even Foxy knocked somebody out. Not like... Just once.
Starting point is 00:35:57 He's similar to D-Butt. Did not knock someone out the first time he played. D-Butt, how many fights did you have on that throw of the fight? How many times have you been out? We saw it all over Instagram. Yeah, I'm 2-0. I'm 2-0 right now. 2-0?
Starting point is 00:36:08 So you fought... No knockouts. You fought sloppy decisions. I bumped into the cards. In that tiny little workout, Jim, you went to the cards? Yeah. Oh, couldn't be me. Couldn't be me.
Starting point is 00:36:17 Let's get to a break. Wow. She's the ice, D-Bud. Oh, my. Hit the weights, D-Bud. What is that, a crowd of 10? A crowd of 10 watching you? Small crowd. Small crowd. Oh my. What is that, a crowd of 10?
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Starting point is 00:36:42 to naturally decrease in the body. Did you know this, AJ? I am aware. For most men, it begins around the age of 30, and testosterone production declines by roughly 1% per year. My God. So if you live to 130, you ain't got shit left. No.
Starting point is 00:36:57 Minus 30. Well, if it starts around 30, this is one of those questions on a test where, you know, begins around 30 in the testosterone production declines by roughly 1% per year. So does it start at zero or does it start at 30? That's the thing. This is where they can get you. It's one of them damn word problems. This is one of those ones where you're like, well, wait a minute.
Starting point is 00:37:21 Which, can I ask a follow up? Anyways, I was good at those tests because I always viewed it as me versus the fucking teacher. That's right. Okay? I don't know what's going on, but this is me versus you. Fuck you. That's how I view it. That's why friends at Roman have a new supplement designed to support testosterone production.
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Starting point is 00:38:55 A pretty A pretty big event For Sirius coming up Really? I think so I don't know how big it is actually I have no idea I think it's just gonna be on
Starting point is 00:39:03 Like on the internet I think I don't know if it's been announced yet Am I allowed to do it? It has not been announced yet Breaking I haven't know how big it is, actually. I have no idea. I think it's just going to be on the internet. I think. I don't know if it's been announced yet. Am I allowed to do it? It has not been announced yet. Breaking. I haven't seen it myself. All right, so I shouldn't.
Starting point is 00:39:10 Breaking news. No, I don't know. I don't know if I should, actually. I don't want to. It's pretty cool, I think. Yeah? It's very cool. Really?
Starting point is 00:39:21 Yeah, I think so. I think it will be. This is a big event. I don't know if it's big, but I think it'll be a cool event if that makes sense. Yeah. I'm excited. This is one of the first times that Sirius has kind of, you know, they put us in a commercial during the Indy 500 or whatever.
Starting point is 00:39:33 Right? They had me and Aaron chatting, laughing as a part of the commercial, which was dope. Like, that was really cool because our relationship with Sirius is an interesting one. They license our show from us, basically. So we run interesting one. They license our show from us basically. So we run the show. They license a show from us,
Starting point is 00:39:48 put it on mad dog sports radio, which is very cool, but we're not in there every single day. It's not like we're serious employees, you know? So we don't get a chance to interact as much or kind of hear from people as much. I don't think.
Starting point is 00:39:59 And it's, it's literally no, it's just, we do our thing. Like, Hey, they got their thing. We're very thankful for it.
Starting point is 00:40:04 So when they put us in that commercial, it's like, yeah, that's really cool. Hey, thank you for that. That's very dope of you guys. And now with this thing, I think it's even more like, okay, cool. Like fucking. All right. So serious kind of gets it a little bit. Okay.
Starting point is 00:40:15 Here we go. It feels like serious kind of likes us a little bit. Good to know. Yeah. I thank you for people listening wherever the hell you are, whether it's in a truck, a delivery van, um, stay awake while you're driving those vans yeah I just want everybody to know that there is a story about the hundred and seventeen thousand dollar Jeep that I bought with a Hemi a couple of couple weeks ago turns out turns out it ate a
Starting point is 00:40:40 painting van last night at about 60 miles an hour while I was going about 35, 30. Yeah, right to the back, painting van. Boom, off the road, saws down some trees, a road sign, then cuts in front of me across the road into a front yard, basically. This van right here comes crashing. I guess the driver behind me fell asleep. It was a beautiful day. Look at the clouds. There's none of them
Starting point is 00:41:05 look at the sun it's shining it was beautiful i was in the jeep there's no roof i was listening to some music how you doing let's keep it moving all of a sudden close to my house there close to my house i'm almost home about to see the wife then take off down here to champa you know all right there's a lot of good things going on right on the back oh my god let me slowly say i'm looking at this guy in his van right next to me while i'm on the road after getting womb i look to my right he had swerved off next to me now at this point i look at him womb cuts in front of me i'm like holy shit the dude came like i think it was like this far away from a massive telephone pole like that that could have been one and by the way that's why you gotta you gotta remember every time you step in a car anything can happen that's right never know i look
Starting point is 00:41:49 alive it might it might be considered basic to you you're doing the same drive that you literally do two times a day for the last four years this is the roads you understand maybe get a little bit too comfortable you have no idea there might be a painting van behind you with 13 to 14 ladders on top of it that just come flying into you like 50, 60 miles an hour and you're the only thing that happened to your car after getting rear-ended at pretty high speed is a couple little nicks a couple little scratches a couple little fixes we'll clean that right back up to shiny meekum auto auction ready uh in the other car obviously you saw it wasn't just my jeep in it though he had like two trees a road sign it was crazy dude three probably four what was it about 4 15 probably four o'clock yeah about 4 15 i think when that whole thing happened just out of nowhere glad everybody was able to walk away man bingo he was good by the way okay driver this was good passenger seat was good neighbors all came flying out obviously because it
Starting point is 00:43:01 was very loud uh everybody seemed to be okay it was great outcome obviously for what could have been absolutely insane i think the driver fell asleep is the story that i was told there sure i was asked if any damage happened to my jeep i looked back i looked at it and said of course not no it's a tank of course not this fucking tank that thing's probably out of commission forever oh yeah by the way potential final destination while i'm sitting there waiting for the scene it became a scene i mean it was very it became a scene very quickly imagine if jeep no roof that guy rear ends me very fast pace right by the way coming he came very hot like it was very very hot imagine those ladders that are on
Starting point is 00:43:39 top that's shooting into the top of my jeep final destination probably had you can't have it that's what i'm saying i thought about that while I was standing there. I was looking around. I was like, imagine if I fucking eat one of those ladders. This is insane. Happy everybody's okay. Here we go. Just goes to show you
Starting point is 00:43:53 and reinforce the fact that AJ Hawk should not be driving a vehicle. This guy falls asleep behind the wheel. You see what happens. 4.15. 4.15. Nowhere near the time. Not quite golden hour.
Starting point is 00:44:04 Especially not in Indiana. Golden hour's at 10 p.m. in Indiana right now or whatever. Youhere near the time. Not quite golden hour. Especially not in Indiana. Golden hour is at 10 p.m. in Indiana right now or whatever. You know what it is. But, yeah, this guy fell asleep. I mean, it was an insane situation. Speaking of insane situations, this man joins us to talk about all those that happened in the biggest league on planet Earth. Ladies and gentlemen, insider for the NFL and NFL Network and NFL.com and a man that got
Starting point is 00:44:27 absolutely assassinated the other day by Chris Long. Ladies and gentlemen, host of Rap Sheet and Frenzy and Rapper Boy. Hey, Rap Sheet! What's going on? Assassinated? Yeah, he killed you, dude. Did you see it? I mean, it was a slaughtering dude. Yeah, full dunk on your face, dude.
Starting point is 00:44:44 Yeah, I mean, I wouldn't, I guess I would, first of all, you can hear me okay, right? I don't have my AirPods. Can you hear me all right? Oh, yeah, you look cool. By the way, this is like kind of like cool, you know, business cash rap here. Friday rap.
Starting point is 00:44:54 Yeah, Friday, feel good Friday rap. Yeah, you sound good. Friday, it's the summer. I would not say I got killed. I mean, it was a little bit of a drive-by. I'll tell you what I did. I wanted to see a little bit of a drive-by. I'll tell you what I did. I wanted to see, I wanted to see a little more. What did he say when you were like,
Starting point is 00:45:14 Hey bro, like that's my guy. Don't talk about him like that. Like what was his response? Oh, whenever somebody on our show said that about you there? Yeah. Well, I assume you did. So what? No, no, that wouldn't be something. I'm not really combative. We actually talked about it afterwards. We said it would really, it would be doing a disservice to the entire show if I got combative there because we never really show that much other times. You know, we're feel good.
Starting point is 00:45:32 So we just let him kind of assume that you were somebody's guy in the room. You know, he got it. He got the message. Yeah, he got the message. He understood. You're right though, Rap. That was kind of how it all ended and wrapped up.
Starting point is 00:45:45 He talked about his brother and talked about everything going on. It was a great conversation, but you did get absolutely murdered. And we're happy to see you still around. Is there any news going on in the world right now? We were trying to scan. Let me see if we got it all here, right? Okay. The Dolphins have a new slide in their facility.
Starting point is 00:46:02 Okay, that's a big deal. There's pictures of Julio Jones catching footballs. It is awesome. Hey, what he is doing is incredible. Great receiver. Brandon Staley's mic'd up. He has energy. He's a coach.
Starting point is 00:46:16 That's crazy. And let me get this straight. Peyton Manning's potentially going to Amazon. And maybe Calvin Johnson still hates the Lions. I think those are the only two that have been new that are maybe little needle movers. Anything you know about and anything we should be thinking about? Or are we in a very dead time right now? Yeah, I mean, I think we're in, I mean, cross my fingers,
Starting point is 00:46:37 but I think we're in a pretty dead time right now. I mean, minicamps basically ended yesterday. There's a couple like things, some teams are cleaning up, maybe a signing or two. Jets have had talks with Morgan Moses. Maybe they wrap that up today at some point. But it's really like everyone's getting ready
Starting point is 00:46:53 to go away for the summer. So I'm getting to the point for me where if I call someone, like if I need to call a coach or a GM, it better be worth it because that dude is going to be on the golf course or in Cabo hanging with Sean McVay or whatever like it's getting to the point now where everyone's getting ready to go away for the summer so if something happens you know that it's like really really bad like when JPP had the fireworks accident on July 4th like many many
Starting point is 00:47:20 years ago like that kind of bad that's what it would have to be to be news in the NFL, probably for the next like four weeks or so. The wrap when Calvin Johnson was going through it. And by the way, thanks for the heads up on that. We're actually taking off next, next week, not next week, but the next week after that. You've earned it. Well, it's the first time in a long, long time.
Starting point is 00:47:40 We're taking a week off actually. And I want everybody to enjoy it. We're celebrating tie at the beginning of that. It just sounds perfect from what it sounded like from you there though ain't shit gonna happen so i'm pretty pumped about that i'm pretty pumped about that decision that's good well you're crossing your fingers for us that week we cross our fingers for every other week we hope something happens so we can continue to talk into microphones for three and a half four hours a day but this new stuff coming out about calvin johnson's interesting to me.
Starting point is 00:48:05 And I don't know what you were doing when all that shit was popping off and your knowledge of the subject and anything like that. But Calvin Johnson obviously had to pay money back to the Lions. And everybody just assumed that because that happened, there was a bad, bitter ending. And some of us even joked that that potentially put a curse on the Lions because they demanded money back an actual check back from one of their greatest players of all time who was good
Starting point is 00:48:29 did that curse the Lions and they did I guess they did the same to Barry Sanders before that but now it's come out to Calvin Johnson said he wanted to go somewhere else they wouldn't let him so he's forced to walk away that is happening now because people are thinking there's maybe a a rekindling of a relationship with photos of him at practice, I think, with Dan Campbell. So what is the stance on this? And will we ever see Calvin and the Lions back together? And if he was going to go play somewhere else, should we hate the Lions for not allowing us to see more Calvin Johnson football? Because his highlights are spectacular.
Starting point is 00:49:02 And it sounds like there should be a lot more of those. Man, there's so much here, and I was, I think I was at NFL Network when this was happening because I think this was the, if I remember the timing correctly, I believe this was the beginning of Bob Quinn's tenure at the Detroit Lions. And so just so people know, like when players retire, regardless of the circumstances, right, when players retire players retire decide to walk away decide for whatever reason they don't want to play for the team anymore their bodies have had enough with whatever it is um sometimes they're signing bonus
Starting point is 00:49:35 money that could theoretically be paid back generally in the nfl the team goes you know what don't pass back the million dollars like you're a great player you're walking away for whatever reason 25 million to andrew luck by the way from jim mercy i think it was 25 million dollars or something like that and i was gonna say i think that's the best and biggest example and like yes andrew luck walking away or hurt the organization but you would also argue that he helped the organization immensely. Also, like, he's a good guy. Like, you know, like, Jim Murphy's a good guy.
Starting point is 00:50:09 It's good business. Right. So, anyway, the Lions made sure that Calvin Johnson knew that he had to repay the money, and I didn't specifically know that he wanted to play somewhere else, but I do remember there was a storyline the year after he retired where some teams were interested in trading for him and he kind of wanted to come back, and the Lions were basically like, no, we're just not going to do it.
Starting point is 00:50:35 So I knew that happened after he retired. I didn't know it happened before he retired, but I think you play for an organization that really has struggled like the Lions did. I think he you know, you play for an organization that really has struggled like the Lions did. I think he had had enough. But I will say this. If you if this was let's say the Calvin Johnson situation happened this year and he was changed his name to, I don't know, Julio Jones. The organization probably would have traded it. Like we see players call their destination now and have a say in where they want to play so much more now.
Starting point is 00:51:06 It's just we weren't back there yet. Well, back then also, I think the big narrative was if a player doesn't like their situation, they're a brat because a lot of people dream to play in the NFL. They don't. So you're you're living out my dream. So the fact that you want to change that dream into a different dream, you're an asshole for that. And that was kind of like a narrative that was real, as opposed to potentially just being like, hey, listen, all right, you and I are not the same.
Starting point is 00:51:36 We are very different. I am a very fucking good football player. I have dedicated my entire life to this organization. We stink. I would like to win. Can I go win somewhere? That would be awesome if I went to a better place. I'm even thinking about taking less money somewhere else.
Starting point is 00:51:49 And I think that is why, I think with that being explained to people, it may be a little bit more understanding why it's becoming a much more commonality. I think that is a big deal because as soon as you get the fans to understand why, and not everybody still is ever going to. I mean, there's players that are called assholes by their fans all the time. I mean, Packers fans are kind of doing it right now with Aaron Rodgers for everything Aaron has done for the Packers fan base. He just wants to maybe, I don't know how that goes,
Starting point is 00:52:17 but any player wants to go experience it somewhere else or play somewhere else, maybe closer to home, maybe a different place with a friend or something, and it's always like a big deal. Now it seems more common. Are there people around the NFL, though, that are scared that it's going to become like the NBA where there's just going to be too many super teams? And are those people maybe thinking wrong and they should just be like, okay, I should build a super team then if that's what's going to happen,
Starting point is 00:52:41 as opposed to, oh, I'm pissed off that there's going to be super teams when they happen. Isn't that what competition's all about there? Yeah, I mean, I don't know that it would ever be super team-like because there's a salary gap. What? A Buccaneers? Look at the Buccaneers. Look at the Buccaneers. Right, but, like, the super team were, like,
Starting point is 00:52:57 Antonio Brown kind of at the end, Gronk kind of at the end. You know, so, like, it was kind of like that. I mean, they were obviously very good anyway, but it wasn't like. That's three touchdowns in a Super Bowl. Hey, that was three touchdowns in a Super Bowl you just said right there. No, that is a good point. But I'm just saying salary capitalized, it didn't kill them. But there are people who I think are, you know, older people, older school people who are frustrated that players, star players have as much say as they do.
Starting point is 00:53:23 Like, you know, why does Matthew Stafford get to, you know, dictate where he plays? Well, I mean, why would he not? I mean, right? Like, he's one of the better quarterbacks in the NFL. He gave a decade to a trying, struggling franchise. Obviously, it wasn't working. And that's what I liked about how the Lions handled it. They were just like, you know what?
Starting point is 00:53:42 You are right. Like, we are going to get picks for you you deserve better we are going to amicably part and like that was the playbook and i kind of think the falcons did the same thing like you know what we love you we are going to make sure nobody trashes you on the way out we're going to make sure you go to a place you like we're going to get draft pick compensation and it is okay and and it is it is sort of a time of player empowerment in the NFL. And like the guys, a lot of the guys who are demanding where they play also kind of deserve a say.
Starting point is 00:54:13 So I think it's okay. Yeah, definitely. Especially with the way the business is now and the access and content and the transparency of what moves the needle and what doesn't now has given a lot of people, I think, a much better sense of what their actual worths are. You know what I mean? So I think like that is that is something that is only going to continue to evolve, I assume, with the NFL growing and continue continuing to grow.
Starting point is 00:54:39 Darius Butler, go ahead, pal. Rapsheet, man. It's good to see you, man. So way, way back in the day, coming in as young, my first two years in the league, you were covering the Patriots, you know, as a beat writer up there. And I know how much it had to suck dealing with Belichick on a day-in, day-out basis with the media. When you got your national job with the network, how much different was that talking to other coaches, talking to other teams that actually, you know, give you answers you answers i want to answer that but can i tell a deris beller story absolutely hey yeah here we go here we go we love this was something that i will never ever forget so you know deris and i were cool in the locker room it was real early for me covering the
Starting point is 00:55:19 patriots and i hadn't really you know struck up any sort of relationship or whatever with a lot of players. But Darius is a good dude, probably still is a good dude, I would assume. So we were friendly in the locker room. So he gets released by the Patriots and I didn't break it. I think Mike Reese actually broke it. But I called him up and to, you know, confirm it and to make sure it was true. And I sounded like I was like upset. I really was upset
Starting point is 00:55:46 because this is a really good guy who I didn't think deserved to be cut. And it was kind of it. It really sucked to me. And so he confirms he'd been released and is like, hold up. Like, why do you sound like this? I'm like, oh, man, I'm so sorry. He's like, stop. I was like, I'm not dead. I'm going to be fine. You don't have to worry about me. You don't have to feel sorry. This is a business. I will be okay.
Starting point is 00:56:11 And then ended up playing seven more years in the NFL after that conversation. I will never forget that. Yeah, D-Button knew. Hey, real quick, though. Hey, real quick, though. Was that your welcome to the NFL moment? Was Darius Butler saying, hey, John? I was actually happy.
Starting point is 00:56:26 I was actually happy that I was released and kind of getting a fresh start. Because as you know, that New England, it was rough. Once you get in that doghouse, it's tough to get out. So a lot of people around, friends, family, and, you know, rap. Hey, man, I appreciate you feeling for me, too. But I was happy. I was excited to move forward, man. Well, you're lucky.
Starting point is 00:56:44 You went to Carolina? Carolina first and then Indy for my last six. It was awesome when you got there. I think you had a pick six your first day. He might have two picks the first day you were on the field or whatever. I was like, who the fuck is this guy? This guy's awesome. He went to Connecticut?
Starting point is 00:56:58 Okay. All right, here we go. But to answer your question, it was was it was different, you know, getting to know all the other coaches and kind of getting to understand the information was not like that. Other places like it was in New England, like there were people I knew in, you know, with the Patriots, like say like John Robinson, for instance, was with the Patriots. And I was there. I would barely say hello to him when I'd see him like on the road at a deli because I was nervous that I would get him in trouble for talking to me. Now, specifically with Belichick, I liked dealing with him because you always knew what you were getting. The consistency was there. And if you had football questions, like as a reporter, he would always really answer them. So I liked dealing with
Starting point is 00:57:40 Belichick. The lack of information was frustrating. And it was unbelievable when I really got to know people elsewhere to be like, wow, sometimes people talk about what's really happening in the locker room. And that was kind of funny and interesting. Yeah, dumb, by the way. Yeah, that is very, like, if you talk to anybody in the NFL, I think, now granted, you kind of have to. And I rarely spoke about anything I was doing
Starting point is 00:58:04 as a punter in the NFL on the Internet because, you know, punting, the NFL has been around for like 100 years and punting was never interesting. So it was nothing I really went off with. But those people that are very good at saying absolutely nothing to the media and just keeping it moving are awesome. But normally those people are, their resume holds a little bit of weight, so they can do that.
Starting point is 00:58:26 Was Bill Belichick always like that? Was he always, because you said he would give you answers if you asked football questions. Is it just the drama shit that he's hated all these years? Or my favorite answer from him, whenever he was asked after a loss, you know, what they have to get better at, and he said, we got to get better at first down.
Starting point is 00:58:46 We got to get better at second he said uh we gotta get better at uh first down we gotta get better at second down both sides we gotta get better at third down and we gotta get better at fourth downs and that was the next question like what a fucking answer like hey it's the right answer listen we need to get better on every single one was he always like that or did that evolve as he continued to build that dynasty of just being the goat at both head coach and gm by the way which nobody ever says in that whole thing i have felt that what he first of all like my favorite is we'll be like look we just got to score more points like what do you the offense didn't do that we need to score more points and i'm like you know what you do need to score more um i i always took it as this at some point early on in
Starting point is 00:59:28 his new england tenure he was like players watch my press conference and he never told me this but this was always my read players watch the press conference they get the message that they're going to be delivering to media through him so because he has the most he's the most disciplined interviewer i've ever seen or interviewee i've ever seen in my life so has the most, he's the most disciplined interviewer I've ever seen or interviewee I've ever seen in my life. So he makes sure that he's on message 100% of the time and he does not care what you think of him. So he is going to,
Starting point is 00:59:54 if he has to give you the stiff arm, like he's going to do it to make sure his team knows that's how they need to respond to the media. He's just, because he doesn't care what people think about him, he's able to be disciplined 100 of the time and dictate basically dictate the coverage that we use to to kind of report on the team it's extremely fascinating kind of how he's gone about it yeah those press conferences are seen by everybody in your building not just your players the other
Starting point is 01:00:20 coaches everything it's like okay this is how we're viewing this week my favorite one i've told the story a couple times chuck pagana going into the last week we had no quarterbacks uh andrew luck had died that week or that year matt hasselbeck also died uh charlie whitehurst he died somebody else died so we had no quarterbacks going into the final weekend or the final game we had no playoffs on the line either funny funny to find that out either as well so it was a game that was like okay we we don't have we're going into a game with no quarterback we have no hope let's go ahead and enjoy this and chuck's big thing was hey listen we're gonna win we're gonna get a win this is what we're gonna do we're gonna end this whole thing and in his press conference he was asked about the quarterback situation because at that time
Starting point is 01:01:02 they had not even signed a quarterback yet this This is Tuesday. Game's on Sunday. We have no quarterbacks healthy on the roster. He said, you know, we're putting some things together here. You know, we're going to give Pat McAfee maybe a package. And I was watching. I was like, what the fuck did you just say? No, I am not getting a package. Okay, I just saw three quarterbacks die out there.
Starting point is 01:01:19 There is no chance. So the next day, literally we're walking in the hallway. And I'm just like looking at him like, you have something to say to me? He's like, good morning, Pat. Like, hey, we're going to go win. Chuck, like classic. I'll beat him. I'm like, hey, what was that quarterback package?
Starting point is 01:01:31 You did a pretty good joke, huh? I was like, joke? I was like, Jesus Christ. I thought there was a chance. He was like, listen, Pat. Now is not the time for you to play quarterback. Something like that. But it was those press conferences set the tone for everybody.
Starting point is 01:01:45 Who did we end up with? Freeman? Yeah, Josh Freeman. Yeah, Josh Johnson. Josh Freeman? Josh Freeman. Yeah. And who was the – Finley?
Starting point is 01:01:54 I did not remember that. Ryan Finley? No, he was on the team at some point. I don't know if it was him at that time, though. But one of them learned the two-minute. I think it was Freeman learned the two-minute. And then the other one learned just the offense. So the two-minute, and I did, by the way, I did that week.
Starting point is 01:02:11 Like the whole, I did actually a couple, you know, full thing. And I was like, if you get in, we're just going to run it or whatever. Don't worry about it. We just need somebody to take the snap or whatever. That's when I realized that thing on Madden. You know, like Madden, like the punter. It's like your third, fourth string quarterback. I'm like, oh, shit, it's real. It's real, yeah. That's really how realized that thing on Madden. You know, like Madden, like the punter. It's like your third, fourth string quarterback. I'm like, oh, shit, it's real.
Starting point is 01:02:26 It's real, yeah. That's really how they're going through a cadence. And by the way, it's because, you know, cadence and, like, potentially having to take a snap. But the quarterback center, I've been doing that. College, they had me do a couple of those, too. So, like, I know it. I get it.
Starting point is 01:02:40 I'm not going to fumble it, hopefully. And maybe they just. But if that ever happens, by the way, and it happened, I think, for Tupac,ac who was a quarterback and then he ended up punting like the Darius Butler's on the team and like the other guys who are the best athletes on the world what after one or two series I assume somebody's going to be like all right don't you think you can maybe put me in shotgun I could just maybe right I assume it wouldn't last long but when Chuck said I fucking lost it yeah we won that won that game, though, by the way.
Starting point is 01:03:05 Let's go. We won that game that week. Did you? Yeah. I'm pretty sure we won that week somehow. It was insane. And he was playing for the what's that island in New York that doesn't get talked to? Staten Island.
Starting point is 01:03:18 It was like the Staten Island something. It was some amateur football team. He was playing on like two weeks or three weeks beforehand. One of the quarterbacks was. And Chuck's like, we won with the fucking staten island go ahead time rap shit i think it was on nfl network you were saying that you don't think there's going to be any resolution in the rogers situation until like the end of july is that just what packers fans should expect now and i can kind of tune it out because i think a lot of people
Starting point is 01:03:41 assume that we would at least get some you know information from uh the golf event on July 6th but nothing's gonna happen until late July no matter what yeah I mean that's sort of just my read on the situation I mean I'm I'm gonna be watching the golf and first of all that course looks amazing second of all like there's going to be some funny stuff like you know they're not gonna take it easy on Rodgers which I appreciate so that will be fun but he seems to be enjoying his summer he seems to really like not having to do football things if there is going to be a resolution it's only going to be when he wants so he's not going to want to do anything Packer related I don't think until right before training camp and plus like there's no reason to come to any agreement or fix anything at all now because there's no deadline.
Starting point is 01:04:29 Same reason that, you know, the players who are franchise tagged and could do deals like very few happen now. They all happen like July 14th because there's kind of no deadline. There's no reason to. So for me, like, get through through the summer tune in right before camp and see what the resolution so didn't aaron tell us last year he didn't start throwing until july or something yeah something like that and really yeah he said something about he didn't throw until july and i think early in our conversations with aj and aaron aj made a joke at aaron that felt like an inside joke so let me go ahead and try to dissect here where there was a quarterback
Starting point is 01:05:07 throwing. I don't, it wasn't this year. It was like maybe last year or two years ago, somebody was doing a workout on a beach. I don't remember if it was Lamar when he was out there, when he jumped over that jet ski or whatever and scored a touch. I don't know if it was Tom doing something or any of the other potential
Starting point is 01:05:21 quarterbacks that were throwing a ball on a beach at the time. And AJ asked Aaron a question about the time when they were throwing and basically mock like Aaron not liking to throw for certain times and I think we are potentially I don't I don't know if we were in it for the entire thing because he would come back for OTAs I assume but last year I think he got his first real chance to do like what he probably had always wanted to do with his time off and then a lead up and then kind of do his own thing and he said he felt better than he's ever felt so it's like i'm not 100 sure he missed any football that he would normally have like in his mind although otas do serve quite a purpose and a point i think throwing wise he told us he won't start till july
Starting point is 01:06:02 or something last year and i was reminded that of somebody that tweeted us the video. I'm like, hey, he said this last year. I forget who it was. I appreciate you tweeting me that. So that kind of adds a whole other turn to this and twist to this. What if Aaron literally wasn't listening to any of the hype that was going on? He was oblivious to everything. Is that potentially what happened?
Starting point is 01:06:20 No. Well, first of all, I remember last year when we were going through the sort of what's the NFL going to be like in COVID, what's the offseason? If I remember correctly, Tom Pelissero told me this or reminded me of this, so who knows how accurate it is. But he was saying that Rodgers was pushing for like a really late start of, I think, training camp, like didn't want to start any training until like late July at all. Didn't want to start any training until like late July at all. I think it sounded like that's where he was kind of most comfortable, was just not doing anything, which he's one of the best players to ever do it.
Starting point is 01:06:58 So if that's good for him, then I think he should probably keep doing that. But I would imagine he's hearing all of it, just knowing how much he cares about this stuff. I would imagine he's hearing all of it, just knowing how much he cares about this stuff, I would imagine he's hearing all of it, not caring at all, probably laughing at a lot of us. And saying Taylor Swift. Because he knows so much more than we do about the situation. And, like, we're all – there's nothing else to talk about,
Starting point is 01:07:19 so we're all spending time doing it. And meanwhile, he's picking out great T-shirts to wear for his prom promotional. Great shirt, great line in the middle of that virtual press conference as well. Can't wait to watch and see what he says and see what we make of it, because there's probably going to be nothing else to talk about. And there was a little bit of a news yesterday that kind of felt good. There was an earthquake in the middle of America, by the way. OK, so I hope everybody's OK. Hope that really. There was an earthquake in the middle of America, by the way. Yeah. Okay, so I hope everybody's okay. I hope that.
Starting point is 01:07:45 Really? And there was an initial thought that that earthquake, and thankful that everybody was safe, was it was maybe George Hallis rolling over in his grave because there was a chance that Chicago Bears were going to become the Arlington Bears, you know, with a raceway property purchase looking into the future from the president and CEO, Tom Phillips. And when Ted, Ted, Ted Phillips, listen, when Ted
Starting point is 01:08:16 Phillips starts saying, hey, we're buying this, it's nothing. We're just kind of looking at every possible option. And then you start piecing together the patriot place up there which i think has a casino a plaza a mall and you look at the cowboys and i'm assuming las vegas has a hell of a setup around there they have nightclubs in there you look at all the money that is made from owning the space not just the stadium but around it so you can take every dollar that people spend on the weekend to yourself for your games you say say to yourself, oh, my God, are Chicago Bears about to be the Arlington fucking Bears? Is this really going to happen?
Starting point is 01:08:51 Especially when the Bears come out. And the initial report out of Bears fan faithful was, oh, it can't happen, oh, my God. And then it started rolling out. They don't own Soldier Field. They only lease it. If they were to own it, it's actually better for business, blah, blah, blah. But then Mayor Lightfoot came out and dropped an elbow off the top rope on the bears both
Starting point is 01:09:11 basically proclaiming her love for the bears and for the city of chicago while also saying and y'all motherfuckers need to stop worrying about moving within the city you guys need to figure out how to start winning a little bit more. And this is obviously in the middle of a massive negotiation, I'd assume, for a new stadium. This always gets ugly. There was reports plenty of times when an owner was looking for a new stadium, they'd hop on a helicopter, they'd go fly over Los Angeles,
Starting point is 01:09:39 then they would fly back. Somebody would report, probably you, this owner was seen in a helicopter flying over a property that could become a new stadium then all of a sudden out of nowhere the negotiation with the old place is done there's a new stadium new tax dollars probably going in there in a beautiful place being built do i have this right that this is just negotiation here by ted and by the mayor and do you see anything happening before 2033, which is allegedly how long that contract is in place there in Chicago?
Starting point is 01:10:11 That was a fantastic synopsis. That's what I do. I don't win. But that's what I do. Thank you. There's some sage burning in here earlier. I got a chance to really, you know, try to connect the dots. But did I miss anything?
Starting point is 01:10:24 And how do you see it playing out? Yeah. So I would say your first point about how much money they can make from all of the other stuff is massive. I mean, the Chicago Bears, one of the marquee names in the NFL should be like extremely valuable, one of the most valuable franchises in the NFL, top three. And it's not quite like that because you mentioned they don't own the stadium. They're currently in negotiations with the city for more improvements, but it's, and it's a small stadium, but still it's not going to be like all these other unbelievable new stadiums like Minnesota or Vegas or LA. It's just not.
Starting point is 01:11:00 So until they get a state-of-the-art amazing stadium, they're not going to be making as much money and be as valuable as they probably should be. So yes, it's negotiations with the city. Yes. This could end up like last time where it's basically just using this to kind of prod the city a little bit and get more favorable terms. But I kind of get the sense that at least this is a real consideration. Oh, they got a lot of fans in the suburbs.
Starting point is 01:11:30 They would build a Patriots place type situation. Smart, smart business. They make a lot more money. It actually, I mean, I, I love Chicago. So like I want everything.
Starting point is 01:11:37 Oh, you're in with Ted. Hey, Mayor Lightfoot's going to come out and murder you again. You're going to die. You've got nine lives. If you're a caddy and you're going to have two of them taken this week with Chris Long and Mayor Lightfoot if you do what you're about to do here.
Starting point is 01:11:50 A move does make sense. And the crazy thing is it would hurt the city a lot, but fans would love it. They'd love the city. The Arlington Bears do. Go ahead, Connor. Yeah, rap sheet. Bob Anderson and now also Christian McCaffrey have come out with some glowing reviews on Sam Darnold.
Starting point is 01:12:09 Is this a whole new Darnold down there in Carolina? And should I bet on him to win Comeback Player of the Year? Is it a Comeback Player of the Year? He wasn't hurt. He played last year. He just stunk. But he stunk. So you can win it if you're terrible.
Starting point is 01:12:22 He was hurt a little bit last year. Was he? Yeah. Could you imagine if he if you're terrible. He was hurt a little bit last year. Was he? Yeah. Could you imagine if you get comeback player of the year in the NFL, if you were good, stunk for two, three years, and then had a good season again, and your peers and everybody in the NFL was like, welcome back, dude.
Starting point is 01:12:41 That would be wild. I don't know if Sam was hurt. That is rude that Sam had to get that. But we have no idea if Sam's going to be good. But everybody's talking about him. They're on his team, so they have to talk him up. They're wide receivers and running backs who catch the ball out of the backfield. So they have to talk him up.
Starting point is 01:12:54 But is this real down there? And what are the expectations you think around time for Sam Darnold? I don't know if it's real yet. But I would say him winning comeback player of the year is really pretty hilarious. But I guess stranger things have happened because he is clearly coming back from something, which is, I guess, not realizing his potential or whatever the Jets situation last year was not the easiest to succeed in. So maybe coming back from that. But, you know, the early returns are good.
Starting point is 01:13:21 But I will say this, like I think for the Carolina Panthers, they are not treating this like, we found our franchise quarterback, we're done, this is our guy. Look at what they gave up for him. It wasn't a lot. They're going to, you know, I know strongly consider taking the quarterback in the draft. They're going to look at every possible avenue to improve the quarterback position.
Starting point is 01:13:42 Darnold is an option, a really intriguing one just because of how incredibly talented he is, but he hasn't put it together yet. The tape last year wasn't very good. He seems like he's played better in minicam this year, but to really get to that next level, you've got to do it for an extended period of time, play at a really high level, get your teammates knowing you're the guy. There's a lot for Sam Darnold to do. So I think the early returns are good,
Starting point is 01:14:08 but he has to do probably a lot more to get to where he probably should be considering where he was drafted. Diggs back in Indiana. This guy is your biggest fan rap sheet. He would have actually told Chris Long not to say what he said if he was in the room whenever Chris Long said it. He was not in the room, so he was out on the catch looking up winners for Hammerdown. Go ahead, Diggs.
Starting point is 01:14:31 Love you, Rap. So this week, Matt Canna came out and said that they are going to do on offense whatever Ben wants to do. Have you heard anything out of the Steelers? Like, did they just hire an offensive coordinator just because they had to or what's the situation going on there yeah I saw that and laughed a little bit that is not reality like it really is with all due respect to Matt Canada like I don't you know I know he said what he said but that's not reality like they're basically putting in a new offense they're going to make sure to tailor it around Ben's skills. And they know enough now
Starting point is 01:15:06 that when he likes to play, he is going to do it better and they probably should run that. But this is not going to be kind of probably like it was the last couple of years where let's just make sure Ben's happy. This is going to be a very new offense where everyone has to learn it. And like Matt Canada is, has really been a curiosity in the league like before he was hired he was the guy that the nfl coaches would go to to learn about all these new cool things you're doing on offense and then the steelers hired him and now made him oc like i think the offense is going to be really really good this year and i think ben is probably going to have a comeback player of the year type season who's telling you he could have won it last year they
Starting point is 01:15:44 won 11 and 0 by the way fresh off of tommy john then the whole thing collapsed once evan foxy became a fan but what who's telling you this if the offensive coordinator okay and this is what i find fascinating about your job airpods in or airpods out on a friday or on a wednesday who's telling you that the offensive coordinator who's did a press conference and saying something is completely lying. How do you find out that information? I wouldn't say he's lying. I would just say that's probably not what he meant to say would be my best way of saying it.
Starting point is 01:16:14 Because, like, obviously they're going to do what Ben is best at because he is a very good player and the quarterback and has played 20 years. I just don't think it's going to be let's do whatever he wants he is going to install his system which has been extremely successful on a couple different levels and and some of the stuff that he put in with the steelers last year sounded like ben really liked um but this is not going to be just whatever ben wants it's going to be here's the system let's find what Ben does best in this system. Hey, Ian, when did, yeah, Diggs is saying what he's hoping, obviously. When did Matt Canada put this stuff into the offense?
Starting point is 01:16:51 Was it late in the season, beginning of the season? When earlier in the season? When was it? I would assume it was only during the 11-0 part of the season. Oh, okay. See, that's what Diggs was hoping for back there. We appreciate you, Ian. Have an incredible weekend.
Starting point is 01:17:05 What do you got? Anything cool? I got some T-ball. I got some second grade Little League. I got some soccer, and I got some grilling. Okay, good luck out there. I bet you're just a grill master, dude. Get that Traeger to work out there.
Starting point is 01:17:20 Hey, that thing can bake, roast, barbecue, braise, grill, and cook anything. Yeah. Anything. Shout out to you, Ian. We appreciate you. Ladies and gentlemen, Ian Rappaport. Yeah, Ian! All right.
Starting point is 01:17:37 So I think what happened there, Diggs, if I was reading through what Rappaport said accurately, is Matt Canada gave an answer that he thought would, you know, be the right answer. Ben loves this. Hey, I love Ben. I'm supporting Ben. And then all of a sudden, all the Steelers fans said, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. We don't want we we don't want we don't want Ben calling on the place. That's what we've been had the last couple of years.
Starting point is 01:18:00 And I assume he just maybe didn't know that that was going to be the reaction. That's why Ian Rapport's coming out and saying that wasn't what he meant is that somebody you know what i mean digs is that what you think happened potentially yeah i agree with him there and anything's going to be better uh than old randy who uh got rid of because i saw from stats guy who we used to have on you warren sharp stats guy um under center, they would run the ball 87% of the time. And then when they were in shotgun, they would throw the ball like 87% of the time. So just everyone knew exactly what they were doing. So it has to get better.
Starting point is 01:18:34 Okay. Well, I hope it does for you Steelers fans out there. Thank you, bud. I got to log back into this thing. I wonder how rap sheet is that T-ball. I think his squad's pretty good. He's stern but fair I've heard with the kids. Oh, I thought
Starting point is 01:18:49 it was his team. Oh, he's playing. I thought he was batting leadoff. All he could be, huh? What if he's the Shohei Ohtani of fucking T-Ball? That's what I mean. He could be. He just burned one down the middle for the Mets the other night and turned out the first pitch. Oh, rap? Yeah. I wanted to ask him why the hell he had
Starting point is 01:19:05 a catcher's mitt out there. God, call him, call him, call him. You're right, because as soon as we saw that photo, that was this week? Yeah, I think so. Call him. What the hell is this guy doing? Because that was, as soon as you see the photo, you're like, oh, good for Rap. Why is he... Did someone tell him
Starting point is 01:19:22 he has a catcher's mitt? What is that? He's going to get mocked. He's going to get mocked. Yeah. He's going to get mocked for this on the internet. That's an immediate thought. Is he on? Hey, Rap Sheet.
Starting point is 01:19:31 What's up? A little bit more casual, kind of sitting down. Hold on. Hold on. No, no, no. No. Oh, there's the Bulldog, by the way. People were asking for that in the comment section.
Starting point is 01:19:41 Saw the Bulldog there. Quick question. We didn't get to it. We do apologize that we had to call you back here in the middle of your friday what why why did you have a catcher's mitt there on your hand while you're throwing that opening pitch how'd that happen what what did we do there is that the only one they offered up or did you bring that one hey you've had that one since you were in little league is that what happened or how did we get to a catcher's mitt there uh on the hand there Shoes. Yeah, great fit. Great shoes.
Starting point is 01:20:05 Great fit, dude. Great fit. I'm sure the throw was good as well, but the catcher's mitt really got us all kind of befuddled. Yeah, it did. And why didn't you throw from the rubber? Yeah, what are you doing? They said do not step on the rubber. They said you can go anywhere else, but don't step on the rubber. Bro, you go in there.
Starting point is 01:20:21 Hey, hey, you got that catcher's mitt too? You take out a catcher's mitt? You fucking get in there. This is your moment, dude. Are you kidding me? Go ahead and fucking hammer that thing. The other thing is you had to bring your catcher because of COVID. You had to supply your catcher, so my wife was doing it.
Starting point is 01:20:38 So I don't want to throw that sink piece that I got and hit her in the shins and embarrass both of us. Oh, you want to go 12 to 6 on her. Yeah, smart, smart. So anyway, the reason I brought a catcher's mitt is very simple. It's because I have been a catcher my whole life. I mean, technically, I don't really play baseball anymore, but I've always identified as a catcher. And that is when I play catch.
Starting point is 01:20:59 That is my mitt. So like in a moment that sometimes could bring on high stress you gotta stick with what got you there the catcher's mitt had done some great things for me brought that out to bound to make sure that that was there with me during that tech in those high pressure moments you're always gonna rely on your fundamentals that's why practice is so important
Starting point is 01:21:17 that's why technique is so important and that catcher's mitt it got you to where you need to be ladies and gentlemen he's in the NFL now. Ian Rathbun. Ian Rathbun. So sorry to interrupt, but I want to let you know that if you're not gambling with FanDuel, you're wrong. Okay?
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Starting point is 01:23:25 watching along there and in trying to win the money that we're giving away at the end of that you know foxy likes to deliver a little bit of an expensive treat to the viewers uh in phil's pocket at the end of every documentary and i can't wait for you to watch it and then after that hey listen after that the hammer down boys at youtube.com forward slash hammer are going to watch England and Scotland in that first half. If England ends up winning it, if they're up 1-0, 2-0, 3-0, 4-0, 5-0, won't happen that. If they were winning, though, at halftime, the Hammerdown boys, while watching along live, will win $10,000. Wow. If Scotland wins the first half overland and it's not coming home at
Starting point is 01:24:08 halftime everybody that is on camera at youtube.com forward slash hammer dive knows that they are gonna have to wash and clean the entire office which is gonna be a nightmare we're coming out of a quarantine where everybody's kind of locked down, separated from each other. We kind of took care of our own little spaces. Some much, much, much better than others. There's going to be a lot to clean up there. That is literal penthouse to outhouse situation in one half of soccer, which is tough to watch, but with a lot on the line, we will enjoy that. Then tonight, Roman Reigns and Rey Mysterio in hell in a cell on Fox
Starting point is 01:24:49 Smackdown 8 p.m eastern daylight time found that out last night that that was going to be happening tonight we're talking about potentially the biggest Smackdown in the history of Smackdowns and I'm not just talking about with my nine-week run here that I've been on. I'm talking about in the history. A Hell in a Cell match is saved for pay-per-views. You've seen the clips when Mick Foley, Mankind, gets tossed off the top in Pittsburgh by Undertaker, falling over 20, 30 feet into a table, concrete floor, losing his tooth and everything like that, then getting tossed through
Starting point is 01:25:25 the top of a cage a couple times blood brutality carnage all of this Roman Reigns the universal champion will fight Rey Mysterio an absolute icon future hall of famer in the WWE live on Fox Smackdown as opposed to this weekend at Hell in a Cell, which is a pay-per-view only available on the cock, Peacock. It's a big night. And then, by the way, the first federally signed Juneteenth weekend. Let's have a fucking good one. Have a weekend, boy.
Starting point is 01:25:58 Listen, I am all about a good celebration whenever, however, whatever. But whatever we learned about Juneteenth, think as a society a large majority of us at least which was something that was not cool at all the fact that it just got signed in I think is an incredibly awesome moment for us all to celebrate together I think it is a cool thing there's people that hate this they think it's whatever for whatever reason and I think it potentially signifies a massive mistake that was made for a long, long time in the country that we currently live in. But I think that's life. You make mistakes, you learn from them, you move on, you grow, you mature. The fact that our country is at a point now to celebrate something that was a massive mistake at one point is not a bad thing it is a great thing this is a
Starting point is 01:26:45 cool thing and for as much as I have a real you know I feel like a connection to this with the life that I've lived and the opportunities and the situations I've gotten to see through both being in a college football locker room an NFL locker room having good friends from all over the country being where I was from which is a working class town, majority white, some trash, you know, some good. But the fact that I got a chance to see things, I think the world coming together is a beautiful thing. But it is not something that everybody's like,
Starting point is 01:27:18 let me hear what Pat McAfee has to think. Darius Butler is here. And Darius, I want to let you know, I'm fucking pumped about Juneteenth becoming a holiday I'm pumped about Juneteenth weekend celebrating for you I would assume this is something that is and now this is me maybe potentially being racist thinking this
Starting point is 01:27:33 but this is I assume this is a massive thing not only for you but for everybody and I think it should be viewed that such that this isn't just a black celebration this is a entire country celebration I think yeah I mean it's definitely it's definitely cool um i didn't know about juneteenth coming up okay so this isn't something that yeah i felt like a stooge by the way for not knowing about it i think a lot of people maybe felt guilty like oh my god i'm a terrible person for this this is something that
Starting point is 01:27:58 was maybe not talked about for a long long time anywhere right yeah i mean and i mean in general honestly you know black growing up in this country you had to kind of do your own due diligence research about, you know, your true history. So, you know, understanding what happened, you know, the slaves were freed with the Emancipation Proclamation, I believe in 63. And then a couple of years later, there were still slaves in Texas. I believe it was Galveston, Texas, where the last enslaved people were free in this country. So obviously a huge moment for black people. You have, you know, the Fourth of July. If you think about when that was put in place, we weren't free.
Starting point is 01:28:33 So this was the day that we were technically free in this country. So definitely dope that it's a federal holiday. Definitely cool that we get to celebrate it and educate the next generation on it. And hopefully we continue to move forward. Obviously more than symbols and holidays and things, but actually putting things in action in place. Because there's a lot of words, a lot of things said. You had fucking end racism in the back of the NFL end zone. They're still practicing race in Norman at the same time.
Starting point is 01:29:03 So symbols are one thing but we want to continue to move uh progress forward it's dope though yeah it seems it is very dope by the way but it seems like you know hypocritical situations have surrounded this particular conversation for a long long time and i think juneteenth becoming something that we all celebrate is awesome like i think anything that can bring people together, like I am all about. I think if you were to look at who watches and listens to our show,
Starting point is 01:29:30 you might, I think a lot of people would be astounded by, because I feel like I've always been a unifier. I don't know. I just feel like I enjoy when everybody's getting along. It's why I like flip cup over beer pong, okay? Because I think everybody can get in. I like when everybody's getting along it's why i like flip cup over beer pong okay because i think everybody can get in like that's just a i like when everybody comes together and has a good time because i truly believe like hey you don't live a long time on this particular rock it could end whenever and then as you learn more and more you're like okay i feel like we can
Starting point is 01:29:57 help here i feel like we can change this a little bit we can get going and i think just acknowledging a lot of stuff which is what we have a lot of people have been forced to kind of do over the last year is dope. And I think as we move forward, I think we all need to realize, hey, we have a lot more in common. OK, then we have differences. But we need to change some things to make everybody's life as good as possible. And I just think that is really cool. I'm excited for Juneteenth weekend. And Mayor Lightfoot, actually, in Chicago, after burying the Arlington Bears yesterday, they just burying the Arlington Bears yesterday.
Starting point is 01:30:26 They just absolutely buried the Arlington Bears yesterday. Today, she is taking $10 million out of the COVID relief fund that they have, which, by the way, I think she's saying we beat COVID too, so shout out to us beating COVID.
Starting point is 01:30:42 And then she's going to put it to work to end racism. I have no idea how that's going to put it to work to end racism i have no idea how that's gonna work i i are you i don't know what that means are you paying everybody that is just a hateful person i don't know how that works but i think the best thing that we could do as a society to continue to grow is in those spots where you know there isn't a lot of white folks and maybe the only white people that are ever seen throughout an entire life is in a bad fashion. And maybe in those spots in what we all doesn't just happen in the big cities, by the way, these are cities and towns all over the place. If the only opportunity for success that you see on a regular basis is one that is whether it's crime operations or selling drugs or gang related or anything like that,
Starting point is 01:31:26 there's a good chance that that is going to continue to be the standard because there's going to be drive. There's going to be, hey, I want to make my life better. I want to do that. And when your only real thing to look up to, for instance, for me, so my dad, truck driver, my mom, a secretary, no college graduates. In the town that I grew up in our neighborhood by the way we didn't have any lawyers doctors anything like that all working class folks here you know and it wasn't until like I met uh one of my dad's friends was a professor named Danny Gray I met him one time he's a professor I saw his jacket I saw the car he wore I he was driving I like saw the way he operated a little bit that was when I was young I was like okay so there's how a professor
Starting point is 01:32:04 that's how they make their living that That's how they can live. If you're a professor. Then I met my dad's boss for the first time when I was like a teenager and I saw this guy's house was huge and I was trying to see what he does to make his money. Whenever you have like a blueprint or an Avenue or hope basically is all that it is. You, you, you tend to make better decisions and hopefully everything else kind of follows suit. And I think in a lot of neighborhoods, if we really want to end racism or try to do this, I think we have to provide opportunity, and I think we have to provide hope.
Starting point is 01:32:33 And I think whenever you see a player... I think that's more important. I think it's a big deal. I don't think racism is going anywhere. It's not about people not liking other people. It's about everybody really having a, you know, a fair opportunity. Hope. I think that's a big deal.
Starting point is 01:32:47 And you had Fred on yesterday. One of the things Fred always says, shout out to Freddie T, is exposure leads to expansion. And that's the truth. If you can see things, if you can feel it, touch it, you're more likely to reach those goals. But a lot of these communities, a lot of these schools, you know, that hope and that opportunity isn't there so that that needs to be fixed i'm not as concerned with ending racism i could give two shits if you like me or not but as long as we have uh the both uh both a fair opportunity you know in the same place that we're living paying taxes um you know i'm cool with that yeah and i think you know aside from the you know you get profiled at a rate that we can never understand.
Starting point is 01:33:27 I think this is something that people are continuing to realize. And that is something that exists too. So I think acknowledging things that have happened. By the way, and this is not all broad paintbrush here. Whatever we're talking about everything. This isn't every single this. It isn't every single that. It isn't every single thing.
Starting point is 01:33:44 These are just situations that have happened over a long long time that we hope to change but if that 10 million dollars of mayor lightfoot's going is going to a incredible school district or incredible school that has great teachers or maybe a company that can give out great salaries in there that are employing only in areas because i think you just have to i think people have to see something to be able to truly believe in no matter where you're at and when if all you see is one thing one thing one thing you're you're going to repeat that probably so I think there should be much more investment and opportunity I think in a lot of places I think go go to some of these grassroots organizations
Starting point is 01:34:17 man where people are actually making changes they actually know the issues because the issues in Pittsburgh completely different issues in LA Miami Atlanta etc than issues in L.A., Miami, Atlanta, etc. So if you put the money to people who are already boots on the ground and just help them scale whatever it is that they're doing, that's going to be much more impactful than you just coming in, writing a check, and going to something that, you know, may not have any effect at all. Yeah, because there's always going to be people that try to take advantage of any situation, even if it's supposed to be a great situation for everybody and that's why like um what robert mathis is doing yeah with dan with the gridiron gang like he he's got he's got kids that would
Starting point is 01:34:54 never have an opportunity to go to these camps that are available it seems like everywhere else and they're just in their training and they're getting to talk to guys that have been there done that as opposed to maybe uh their older brother or somebody else that is in in the same street or neighborhood that is doing something completely different. But by the way, still drives and Benz's and still has very nice cars. And that is success. Getting a chance to see like, hey, this is what you can do with. Let's do this. I just think I think that's that'd be dope if that's what Juneteenth, you know, really spurred like a conversation of how do we really try to bring this whole thing together. And it's not going to happen quick. And there's always going to be hate.
Starting point is 01:35:30 There's always going to be idiots. But I think, I don't know, I think, I might be wrong. Hey, might be wrong. But I think we have a chance to continue to get better and better and better. And I think we will. I hope we will. So have a great Juneteenth weekend. Wrapping that up, by the way, Hell in a Cell Sunday night. Let's go. So let's have a great Juneteenth weekend Wrapping that up By the way Hell in a cell Sunday night
Starting point is 01:35:46 Let's go So let's have a good one Let's have a good one I But Darius Thank you for speaking On that by the way Oh for sure
Starting point is 01:35:53 If Connor starts Speaking on that Everybody's like Oh okay Look at the white Mustache dude Listen to that guy That guy can shut up
Starting point is 01:36:00 If Zito starts Talking about You know that whole thing People will be like Cool but he's actually From Cuba Okay If we get Foxy in there Darius I really appreciate that And I Zito starts talking about, you know, that whole thing. People will be like, cool, but he's actually from Cuba. Okay. And we get Foxy in there.
Starting point is 01:36:06 Darius, I really appreciate that. And the other day, whenever it was signed in, I wanted to, like, talk about it, you know, and I was like, be very, there'd be a rather large lack of self-awareness if I decided to go at this thing alone. I just, I think at this point in life, we all kind of understand what's going on. But let's move along. I'm happy we did that, though, D-Butt. Thank you for that. I like it, too, man. Let's talk about what's going on in our world.
Starting point is 01:36:30 And to do that, let's call some people, huh? They have some questions. Let's do it. Hammer down, boys. How are you feeling back there? I'm getting a little nervous, to be honest with you. Oh, shit. Why?
Starting point is 01:36:41 Is it because of the cleaning of things? Or what is it because of? No, I'm not worried about the loss. I'm worried about not winning. Okay, yeah, yeah. So you don't really care about England at all. You're just worried about not winning. Let's go to some phone calls.
Starting point is 01:36:55 We appreciate you guys back there. Let's go to Eli in Michigan. Eli, what's going on, pal? Not much. How are you? Just hanging out, Eli. What do you want to talk about i just want to talk about the greatest college football player ever that's now becoming the
Starting point is 01:37:11 greatest and will be the greatest tight end ever tim tobo okay here we go let's do it eli we like these conversations after the first what after the first l they take? He comes out and he goes, I promise, because of Jacksonville Jazz, nobody else will play as hard as me or anybody else in this league. They're going to go on to be the rest of the year. Eli, you're 100% right. I mean, he gave that speech one time, and they did go win a national championship, and he does have a statue about him.
Starting point is 01:37:38 And I think that is potentially. Same coach. Two, right? Yeah, and people forget about that that you know why they signed Tebow because Urban Meyer had some of the greatest moments of his life when Tim Tebow was being Tim Tebow is there a chance that there's a relationship involved there I think so but I think Fred Taylor yesterday said he's gonna be on practice squad don't take him it's gonna take a little bit but he liked him around. Fred Taylor, I think, really appreciated old Tim Tebow around Tom.
Starting point is 01:38:05 He had glowing things to say about him. Great person. He said his energy, you know, being a leader, like that's infectious. That's why he's there. He didn't really make it seem like he was going to have a huge impact. White Vic, he said. He said they were calling him the White Vic in Jacksonville. He said they were calling him the White Vic in Jacksonville.
Starting point is 01:38:21 Oh, in high school. Yeah, when he was coming out of high school. Yeah, he was a real dude. Was Jacksonville always known for good football, it was he the one that kind of birthed jacksonville into the whole thing he's he's the most popular player out of jacksonville that i know but he was i mean tony carter came out of there too but he was he was i mean he was he was a guy coming out of there who normally dominates south florida south florida yeah you guys you got dade county you got broward county palm beach we pretty much dominate that that's all our tampa's Florida. South Florida. Yeah, you guys. You got Dade County. You got Broward County, Palm Beach.
Starting point is 01:38:45 We pretty much dominate that. Tampa's got some teams around here. Go Boats. Go Boats. Go Boats. They're saying right down here they got some teams. What would be the reaction in an NFL locker room if he came out and did the, I'm going to work as hard and practice as hard as anybody?
Starting point is 01:39:02 Well, you know, we've seen situations like this before. Eaton W's. Yeah. Yeah. You know, we've seen situations like this before. Eaton W's. Yeah. Yeah. You know, we've seen that hurt the reaction. Like if Tebow's on the practice squad giving, you know, speeches about pushing everybody as hard as you can. Hey, okay.
Starting point is 01:39:13 So this is exactly, you remember the kicker for Vandy? Yeah. Okay. Giving the speech at halftime. Yeah. I appreciate her going out and doing it. It's not easy to kick. This is awesome.
Starting point is 01:39:23 Anytime you're the first person to ever do something in history, it is legendary. Allegedly, she gave a speech at halftime, and I applaud her for that. That takes much more courage than I've ever had. Punter on the team, I'm not giving a speech ever, okay? I understand that. Tim Tebow, if he's on practice squad, I think he gives a speech.
Starting point is 01:39:39 He's Tim Tebow, okay? A little bit of self-awareness there, but I don't know if he gets the boys going or not. I'm not so sure if he gets the boys going. That'd be tough. Guys probably just start calling him coach even while he's playing. It's like, hey, we know you stink.
Starting point is 01:39:54 You got it, coach. Put him in a polo. Vinatieri, when rookies would come in, the things that would be said, what is that sound? There was a growl in there. Is that a video yes we have a guest here what hello yeah that did sound like a video of aj like uh i heard a little smirk it sounded like he was breathing and smirking at the same time talking about wow aj hawk aj hawk aj hawk A.J. Hawk! A.J. Hawk! A.J. Hawk! How many times have you heard that this week?
Starting point is 01:40:26 How is it going down there, dude? That is the first time I've heard that, Pat. I'm sorry, my Raycons won't connect through FaceTime, so I'm just here going through the phone. I hope it's all right for you. Yeah, you're fantastic. You got a great hat on there. What is that little Buckeye sun cap you got?
Starting point is 01:40:41 Did everybody get this? Is this like a gift bag you got immediately upon arriving at this land cruise you are? Yeah, absolutely. It's part of the swag bag, and I know when you called in when I was hosting your show for you, you had one of these guys on, so I figured I'd do it to honor you a little bit. Hey, I appreciate that. And by the way, that was the day that Carson Wentz was
Starting point is 01:40:57 traded to the Indianapolis Colts on that exact day. Do you have any news like that to break? Have you gotten a little loose down there with the Buckeyes and texted Aaron, and do you know any news like that to break have you gotten a little loose down there with the buckeyes and texted aaron and do you know any news i do not know any news has anything happened i've been kind of out of the last couple days hey i want to let you know literally nothing has happened only we were the news for one day we were the news we were the children uh jay glazer said that he knows aaron rogers still wants out that became big news but that came just a couple days after you and james jones said it was fixable and both can be true but the world reacted as if they couldn't be it's an insane time how is this
Starting point is 01:41:37 thing you're at over there though we saw a video oh wow it's worse we're just where we just talking to somebody in germany the other day yeah perfect Were we just talking to somebody in Germany the other day? Yeah. Perfect connection. We were talking to somebody in London. Somehow, AJ in Ohio and now on a land cruise somewhere. No connection. Welcome back, AJ.
Starting point is 01:41:53 Great to have you. How has this been? Has it been crazy? We saw one video. What has it been like down there? It's been good, man. I mean, they've had, I think this is the 14th year they've done it. And so now this year, it was supposed to be February.
Starting point is 01:42:05 It got canceled. So now they moved it to now. Basically, the whole cruise just took over a hotel here. And they do the same kind of things. It's been good, man. Last night alone, the auction thing they did, they raised $917,000 already. And we still have two more nights to go. All right.
Starting point is 01:42:21 Here we go. Here we go. Here we go. I mean, you broke up throughout all of that. But your audio did get through there. $917,000. Brutal. ago all right here we go here we go here we go i mean he broke up throughout all of that but your audio did get through there 917 917 000 last night and there's still a few more days we have one video we're gonna roll this now is this just every room you walk into is this what it's like i'm not 100 sure we'll run this video do we finding it right now. Okay, we got to get it. We have to get this video.
Starting point is 01:42:45 We got to see it. We saw one video. It was a shot of an entire conference hall, basically, like a room in a hotel. And it looked like it was 90 to 100 hundred-year-olds in one room all doing the O-H-I-O. O-H-I-O. O-H-I-O. That's what it is. That's what this whole week is, man. It's all that.
Starting point is 01:43:13 But there's not just like, there's a range of people here, man. It's not just old people here. So we must have seen the senior council hall or whatever. 917,000 last night. What charity is this going to and are you just at events all day is that what you're doing is there just auctions and meet and greets and conferences all day there's different kind of like fun things that they do yeah and there's all different ways that they raise money but yeah i got some stuff coming up here later we were in the the pool earlier with my kids now they're actually right inside trying to to lay down for
Starting point is 01:43:44 a little bit so i'm out here i'm trying to still have picking up the wi-fi but i knew that yeah so you're in between the connection in the cell service it's you know it's a bad spot but we appreciate you calling from this land cruiser on you're in the pool this morning you pee in there everybody's just pissing in that pool no i did not pee in there but actually we were my kids were in the hot tub and i was sitting outside watching i don't know why it's 8 000 degrees and they all wanted to sit in the hot tub and i look over and axel has his pants down peeing in the bush right next to the hot tub yes oh they're screaming oh they're screaming um okay do you got to do q and a's what are these events you have to do? Do you have to sign autographs? Do you do a show?
Starting point is 01:44:26 Are you singing? Do you do a show? Are you dotting the I over there? Are you doing the whole? I'm not singing, but people have sang. Your guy, Jack Muhort, is here, and he gave one of the greatest, I believe it was Kelly Clarkson, karaoke performances three or four years ago on the boat that people still talk about.
Starting point is 01:44:41 So what do you guys do? You guys all just get boozed up and make bad decisions in the name of charity? I mean, yeah, give or take a little bit. Yeah, that's pretty much what it is, I think. God, it's great to hear you. Yeah, it's great. We have missed you. Go ahead.
Starting point is 01:44:54 Well, I was just supposed to trade you. Are you aware of the $15,000 bet going on at 3 o'clock today? No, I'm not. What happened? What's going on? Okay, so immediately following the Foxy flick that's debuting in 35 minutes at youtube.com forward slash hammered down,
Starting point is 01:45:09 there's a watch along for the England-Scotland game. Euros. You know how much we cover that, AJ. I can't wait. I've been dialed into that down here. Okay, good. I'm happy that the Ohio State Buckeye faithful have kept you updated on what's going on in Europe.
Starting point is 01:45:22 Nobody would have guessed that about Ohio people, by the way. Very, very, very pumped about that. The England-Scotland first half money line, if England wins, the Hammerdown boys win like 10, 11 grand or whatever. If they lose, if England loses the first half against Scotland, they have to clean the entire office. Gumpy didn't sleep last night because of this thing. Diggs is starting to get nervous.
Starting point is 01:45:45 It's a big-time thing around here. Well, so who... Wait, what's the first half money line, though? What has to happen? Just whoever wins. Oh, who do you guys have? Well, Gumpy, Diggs, and everybody has England, obviously,
Starting point is 01:45:58 because it's coming home. It's coming home. It's coming home. It's coming home. Isn't Ronaldo going to win it all anyway with Portugal? Yeah, he's the highest scoring human in the history of scoring in this tournament, I think, in Europe or whatever, over
Starting point is 01:46:15 300 goals or something like that. It's unbelievable. He'd never be touched. I don't know how he's still playing. It's probably because he drinks so much water. But, Gumpy, didn't you have a question for AJ on why he was pulling for Scotland? No, A.J. knows it's coming home. He texted me last night. He knew all about this.
Starting point is 01:46:30 He said it's coming home. Don't worry, pal. Did he? Wow. A.J. Yeah, well, because Gump knows we're past the first round, so there's no more caginess happening between the teams. We're going to go all out.
Starting point is 01:46:40 We're going to try to win these games by a bunch, right? Good soccer. That's why we're on first half money line, AJ. We need a goal early. Let's go. Good soccer. Let's go, man. No caginess. No boringness. Let's get them going. Hey, let's get them playing out there. Let's get the lad going. Let's flop. Let's make sure we flop
Starting point is 01:46:56 and then we have like 82 extra minutes that nobody knows about. Let's do it, man. It's coming home. It's coming home. So's coming home. So what do you guys, how many songs do you got to know over there? Hey, Jay, good soccer analysis, by the way. You guys have to know, like, obviously you have to know the,
Starting point is 01:47:12 what's that called, the alma mater thing? The fight song. The fight song. You're probably singing that a lot. Obviously the OH. That's happening a lot down here, yeah. And unfortunately I can't escape you, too, because a lot of people like to ask me about you.
Starting point is 01:47:25 And there's players. You know, Boom Heron's here. He asked about you. Boom, boom. Love, hey, boom is part of it. All these guys. And then obviously a lot of the people that are here attending, they love you and they love what the boys do and everything,
Starting point is 01:47:34 and they're excited about what you've been doing and what you have up to. You know, people have a lot of questions about you, Pat. You know that. I'm sure the boys get asked all the time, too. Yeah, well, listen. OH, dude. Okay? Yeah, they would probably give it back to you well that's what i'm saying that's because they're a proper representation no it's just they don't know you well enough to not give it back
Starting point is 01:47:53 no jesus christ i just gotta text it's insane hey here it is any chance uh fort lauderdale legend chris gamble made it out there oh man i wish gamble do you know gamble he disappeared like coach trestle can't even get a hold of him. He's doing his own thing. I don't know what he's got going on, but Gamble's the man. I wish he was here. He would be awesome. Look at this. Is this where you are? Where are you in this? Are you just sitting at tables the entire time
Starting point is 01:48:15 while people are chanting OHIO? I honestly don't know. This has to be the biggest... I can't exactly see it. It's so bright out here, but there's like an opening ceremonies type night where you announce and run up on stage and throw stuff in the crowd, and then they just kind of welcome everybody and do a bunch of stuff. Who's all there?
Starting point is 01:48:32 You guys got Pryor there? Claret? Pryor's not. Zeke's here. My kid's got Zeke's autograph today. We had a little autograph signing, so they're excited. Yeah, there's a bunch of people here. Everybody's got that.
Starting point is 01:48:40 A bunch of people here. Everybody's got down. O-H-I-O. Stay back. Stay back. You're my O-H-I-O. Okay, that looks like a blast, AJ. Are you doing drugs?
Starting point is 01:49:03 No, we're not smoking dope down here, Pat. We need you for that, I guess. Well, I'll tell you what. If I was down there, they would need to bring in at least three, four ponds, I think, to get through. You're down there all week. It's a week thing, huh? It's like four or five days, I think, pretty much. That's what it usually is. That is a long time.
Starting point is 01:49:18 Is Greg Oden there? It is. Greg Oden is not here right now. Should he be? I mean, honestly, he probably should invite that guy. He's awesome. What? That guy.
Starting point is 01:49:29 What? You got beef with Greg Oden, dude? What's your problem with Greg Oden? No, I see Greg around Columbus. The dude's awesome. He walks around this place, the country club where I take my kids to swim. He plays golf there a lot. And that dude walking around, obviously, he sticks out a bit.
Starting point is 01:49:43 In Columbus, Ohio, walking around the golf course. He's nine feet tall. Zito's trying to play charades with me. Boom. Shohei Ohtani is competing in this year's Home Run Derby. Let's go! Let's go, Ohtani! We gave away tickets to the Home Run Derby. We were
Starting point is 01:50:00 trying to cook our way into getting our own section, basically, in the outfield of the Home Run Derby. Now the greatest player of all time is going to enter in the home run derby let's go where's the all-star game it's in denver dude they got they got a lot dope out there for us so they're gonna be and they got that air where they're gonna be bombing show you think show he's gonna win yes he's gonna win what are we talking about this is one of those things like bryce harper won when it was in dc in the hair and it was a big moment show he's going to win. What are we even talking about? This is one of those things like Bryce Harper won when he was in D.C. in the hair and it was a big moment. Shohei's going to win because this is his year.
Starting point is 01:50:28 This is his I'm the greatest baseball player of all time time. He's going to hit dong shots out there. We're going to catch him. What was that, Z? So apparently he dropped a highlight film for this, like a big hype video. I don't think the Shohei's won. This is my guy. Let's go.
Starting point is 01:50:39 This is the guy. You know, if he made a highlight film, you know he's winning for sure in your mind. Aren't you supposed to be on some stupid propaganda celebration right now? What are you even – why are you negative right now? I'm not negative. I'm just saying we know how you are swayed by good editing and any kind of workout vid slash like highlight reel. That's all you need for you, and you're all in.
Starting point is 01:51:02 I do this with the editing. I can see it. I can spot it out. That's a fake. That's a fake. I can do that. Don all you need for you and you're all in i do this with the editing i can see i can spot it out that's a fake that's a fake i can do that don't you worry about that but if it is legit and they're doing something that is freakish i'm all in and guess what shohei otani does freakish stuff i'm all in i can't wait to be at the home run derby i can't wait to be there i can't wait are you really gonna go well i say it now I say it now, you know, probably not, but maybe. Let's hope it happens. It's on a Monday, I believe. It is on a Monday.
Starting point is 01:51:28 We've looked into it. We have looked into this for real. Going to try to make it happen. I believe it's the first week of potential live events as well for WWE, if we can make that happen as well. What were you going to say, though, Ty? I saw something negative coming out of your mouth, I think. No, I just remembered where we were thinking about sitting, and then I remembered Tawny's left-handed.
Starting point is 01:51:44 So, you know, he's going-handed so you know he's gonna be having to hit some oppo bombs for us really I did see you get a little negative over there immediately upon this and your thought was like oh no we gotta change section we gotta change section over here AJ what do you have
Starting point is 01:51:58 next aside from the kids nap anything cool or is it time for us to get to a break I'm about to piss my pants you can do whatever you want man it's your show but yeah we have i have some stuff coming up later this afternoon and tonight we have a survivor game it's called i don't know exactly what we're doing i don't know if it's like the tv show but we're some game where we all are on teams tonight you know general bob's here schlegs is here so he pumped the crowd up last night did these quick cows that they used to do at ohio state and everyone going. You know, Shlake, that's his job. He is the man at getting people juiced and getting them ready to go.
Starting point is 01:52:29 What are you doing? The quick jump? Oh, H. Ah. Oh. Let's go. Is that what you guys do? Oh, H.
Starting point is 01:52:36 Ah. Oh. Oh. H. H. Oh. Oh. H.
Starting point is 01:52:41 Ah. Oh. We're going front to back four times. Everyone clap your hands. One big OHIO. Is that what you guys do, like, after the warm-up stretch sesh? No, they did something. They started it when I left with a different strength coach came in.
Starting point is 01:52:51 They do this whole, they call it quick cows. I don't know if Urban's going to take it to Jacksonville with them or not, but they did it here, and people seem to love it. Why are you turning that on? It's OHIO. No, no, yeah, I'm trying to find out what the quick cow is, though. You were kind of stepping on it there. It was actually like I was actually trying to find out what it was
Starting point is 01:53:10 because this is probably what you guys do in practice, right? After the stretch before the stretch before practice. What is it? And I like that you said, I didn't do this, by the way. I like that you, there's no way they were going to get me to do this. Entire teams are forced to do this stuff, by the way. We've all seen the videos. No, it's cool. I'm okay with it. I like it.
Starting point is 01:53:29 The strength coach, when I was there, we didn't do it. They brought it on after me, so I don't really even know how to do it, but Schlage was a so he takes everybody through it. What is it, though? What did Schlage look like while doing it? Oh, you know, he bends over and he blows the whistle, and you just got to know these movements where you're like up, down, up, down,
Starting point is 01:53:46 clap, clap, clap, all this stuff. You got to memorize it. And when everyone does it together, it's an impressive thing to watch. So you guys are trying to do the Ohio Haka? Sure, yeah. That's exactly what it is, I think. Yeah, I can respect that. I really can.
Starting point is 01:53:58 Good luck down there. We appreciate you calling in. Do you feel like you're – I watch a lot of documentaries on cults. Do you think you're at like a cult convention right now? Do you feel like you're potentially a part lot of documentaries on cults do you think you're at like a cult convention right now do you feel like you're potentially a part of it yeah it is it it's a but a good cult if that thing exists but you know how a cult goes there's usually one leader that gets to sleep with all the people so we don't have that here at least uh and as long as we don't have that i think it's going to be a good cult okay it's good news oh wait yeah religion yeah there's some definitely people would love to give it back to you down here. Okay, but not to everybody, though.
Starting point is 01:54:27 They don't give it back to everybody, though. Branch Davidians also thought they had a pretty sweet gig, AJ. Yeah, they did until David Koresh started banging all of them. That's what I'm saying. Sounds like AJ Koresh is coming out to play. Is that what you're doing? Is that why you're leading the chants out there and everything like that? You trying to become Koresh of the Buckeye?
Starting point is 01:54:44 I mean, he did have a lot of power, didn't he? I think within one little trailer park. Yeah, he could shred an axe. I know that. Yeah, he could play like a goddamn guitar. And he was good at running, too. Yeah. He could run really well.
Starting point is 01:54:56 Guy was a great writer. Never saw it, though. Burned up in flames. Damn, damn. Rest in peace to everybody out there. Hopefully nothing like that happens to you there, obviously, at your cult. But I'm happy it's a good cult. Ladies and gentlemen,
Starting point is 01:55:07 calling from the Ohio State Buckeye Cult Charity event that they have every single year. 917,000 raised last night, I think for cancer research I believe, if I looked up the right thing or not. More money on the way. AJ Hawk, ladies and gentlemen. I love you, AJ!
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