The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 440 - PMS 100K Giveaway Week, Andrew Brandt, Mark Schlereth, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: June 21, 2021

On today's show, Pat and the boys chat about the weekend that was including Pat calling Hell in a Cell on Sunday night, and his wild day in Tampa on Saturday that involved him walking 18 holes (7 miles) on one of the most exclusive golf courses in the country, and Jon Rahm defeating COVID and winning the US Open in a thrilling final round at Torrey Pines. Joining the program is lawyer, author, former agent, the host of the Business of Sport podcast, and former member of the Packers front office, Andrew Brandt to chat about the new Supreme Court ruling dealing with the NCAA and players, NIL, if we're going towards pay for play, what this all means for the NCAA and more (31:24-47:32). Later, 3x Super Bowl Champion, 2x Pro Bowler, member of the Broncos 50th anniversary team, color commentator for the NFL on FOX, and friend of the show, Mark Schlereth joins Pat and AJ Hawk to chat about this time of year for an NFL player, Stink shares some stories from his time as a player, some interesting ideas he has for teams in training camp, and whether or not he thinks there's a possibility of Aaron Rodgers playing in Denver (1:06:36-1:26:02). Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow and listen every day on Mad Dog Radio, Sirius XM Channel 82. We appreciate you all for listening, come and laugh with us, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello, it is Monday, June 21st, 2021. A beautiful day indeed. Great conversation, reaction to everything, including Hell in a Cell, some lawsuit litigation talk, Supreme Court talk, Mark Schlereth offensive line talk, basketball. I mean, we cover everything today and we can't thank you enough for choosing to join us. If by the end of this thing you enjoy it, please be a friend, tell a friend. If not, just act like this never, ever happened. Ain't that right? Yeah, just keep moving.

Yeah. Two ships a night. We pass, we don't know. You hate the show, keep it moving. Don't tell anybody. Just act like it was a regrettable decision to allow us to penetrate your ear holes. But if you like this thing, let's go boots on the ground.

Yeah. Gorilla marketing. Let's go ahead and grow this thing. Say, hey, the Pat McAfee Show 2.0 not a bad show actually pretty good show pretty good show they covered everything let's get to it this is our last week before we are off for a week and by week i mean we're off on this friday as well because we'll be traveling one of us is getting married this weekend at At Ty Schmidt. Here we go.

Congrats. We're pumped for you. Can't wait to get up there. At Boston Connors here as well. We're going back to the Revolution Region, pal, this weekend. So we'll be here Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday. Then we're off Friday. Ty's big day.

And then we're off that next week. And we'll be back after the 4th of July. We can't wait for it. So we figured, figured hey to say thank you to everybody that has watched along and listened alongside of us chatting into these microphones for a long time uh since the last time we had any real time off around here gearing up by the way for a massive football season yeah I thought about that on the plane last night I was like okay so we got a hashtag pms 100k giveaway week okay coming up hundred thousand dollars will be given away over the next four days whenever you listen to this show now there are gonna watch this show there are gonna be tips and clues that pop on the screen

there's gonna be different ways to give away things not only will it be 25 000 today 25 000 tuesday 25 000 wednesday,000 Thursday, but there will also be hilarious little side item prizes for somebody who maybe was close to winning but wasn't the official winner. For instance, today, we're giving away a golf cart. So one person will win a golf cart. One person will win $25,000 today. You will learn how to win that via youtube.com forward slash the Pat McAfee show to pop up

in the screen sometime in the next three hours or so. And we can't thank you enough for rocking with us. But after 100K giveaway week and a marriage week and then the off week right around the corner football season. Here we go. I am fucking excited to be alive. I am thankful to be in this world that we're living in right now. And I can't wait for the rest of this week

To give away a bunch of money and a bunch of cool things I can't wait to get up to your guys' part of the world Actually, sorry, Connor, your part of the world I can't wait for everything, I'm pumped up And last night, hell in a cell It was a fucking blast, boys I mean, it was a good time I got a chance to, you know

Really sell the fact that I might win an ESPY. That's right. Have we even? Crashed the site. Allegedly. Now, you guys are telling me this, not me, because I can't hop on my phone. We couldn't vote.

Allegedly, immediately after the announcement of, hey, please, we'll be pretty cool winning an ESPY. Because you've got to remember that ESPY moment. It all started right here what did we do we extended an olive branch to scumbag Adam Cole hey we're in quarantine

everybody's locked down let's put our you know let bygones be bygones right let's move along come together he was going to be in town for his family something was happening he was here I

say hey you know what you're in town hey be safe obviously we're all in the the thing come on down let's chat he comes in here we talk he loses his shit breaks a microphone or two a table a chair yells in my face by the way covid yeah what are we even thinking then he pushes a guy with colitis, Ty, out of here, which leads to an entire thing. That leads to me kicking his soul out of his body while his hero, Shawn Michaels and Triple H, are trying to bring life back into his body afterwards after I get kicked out of there. That's up for an ESPY. That would be hysterical.

That would be absolutely hysterical. Calling a hell in a cell pay-per-view, by the way, hysterical. That would be absolutely hysterical. Calling a hell in a cell pay-per-view, by the way, hysterical. It is a very dumb life we're all living and I can't thank everybody enough. Last night was fucking wild, though. Well, I mean, look there. People are just couldn't shut up. Hey, I didn't even see this. Yeah, hey, listen. This is a joke.

Alright? This is a glitch in a simulation. This is a goddamn joke. It has to be. Nothing on Twitter is like this, okay? I live on Twitter. I am a person that spends a large amount of time on Twitter. I've tried to dabble in the other social media platforms, okay? Obviously, YouTube. Every single day we're here.

We appreciate YouTube, folks. Thank you, YouTube. Love YouTube. Great community. Really cool people. I wish I would have started that long ago, to be honest with you. But I focused on Twitter for a long long time try to get in tiktok last week due to somebody potentially asking whether or not i could do it or not and i said fuck you i could do it without doing the whole song and

dance too i could do it yeah there's no chance i'd do that you're done already there's no chance i'd do it as soon as i click on that app it's just mitt's face yelling at me yeah true okay literally as soon as i click on that and then to do do the whole thing, I appreciate TikTok over there. I think the camera is unbelievable. Obviously, they have a group of people on there that are incredible and very positive. It seemed like an awesome, awesome place. But I spend all my time out of habit and out of like, I think I enjoy it the most on Twitter. For these moments to happen where people are like, Hey, uh,

they enjoy what you're doing here. It's like my people on Twitter. I appreciate it. I have loved the interactions on Twitter. It was a cool night, man. The India, the internet wrestling community is this group of people on the internet.

Okay. And they feel like they potentially have a monopoly on being a wrestling fan. Sure. Okay. This is, if you're not an actual wrestling fan, unless you tweet in our circles alongside us, it normally bury everything. Everything's terrible because we're smarter than everybody.

That's kind of the internet wrestling community. Now, I have respect for the internet wrestling community because their passion for professional wrestling is something that every single company business anything hopes for out of their fans okay they're a very passionate bunch they absolutely love wrestling okay they have their entire lives but at this point i feel like a lot of them have potentially gotten jaded because a lot of others that they follow on there are pointing out all the negatives. So they become like the harshest group of fans maybe that I've ever encountered. I feel like I've done some things now.

I've gotten a chance to do a lot of stuff. The wrestling fans, harshest group to get in with. All right. But I knew that because I was on Twitter a lot, and I was also following a lot of people in the wrestling community because I've been a fan of the wrestling community. So I kind of knew what to expect going in. Like, I'm like, okay, these people are going to hate me. Normally in the past, whenever an outsider goes in to do a

wrestling match, that person's the baby face. Okay. The good guy. And it's because they're promoting whatever they're the good person very quickly. And before we very quickly into the conversation to even potentially lead to any of this stuff uh everybody was on the same page including me it's i'm the fucking bad guy yeah and they were like uh they're like yeah that not you know there was a couple people not the really high up people but there was a couple people that were like no because the bad guy drives conversation bad guy drives match basically because bad guy beats up good guy right that's just how it goes and also you're going against big bad guy yeah big big bad

guy or whatever and i'm like yeah but the conversations i was having this is before any conversation up top happens high level happens i'm like you know how this wrestling community is going to be okay i'm coming in i'm getting an opportunity that all these other wrestlers that were in you know literally busting their asses and bingo halls and gymnasiums and all over the world i'm taking one of their spots i'm also a fan that's getting a chance to do something that everybody has dreamed of i mean i'm the bad guy here i am clearly the bad guy and by the way okay with being the bad guy. Because I knew exactly what to do. So it's very cool to know that you're probably going to be bashed by a community when you go in there. Because you're new.

You're taking one of their favorite person's spots. This happens with everybody. This happens. Wrestlers, commentators, even interview people. Like kickoff panels. This happens in the wrestling world a lot. So to see a lot of love from the internet wrestling community last night, it was very nice.

I appreciate you all. I feel like I've tried my best to prove I know what the fuck I'm talking about a little bit. I don't know anywhere near the amount that a lot of you do and everybody else in the business does. But I appreciate the love last night. And I agree, me and Michael Cole fucking killed it. That's right. Now, with that being said, it's because the matches are awesome. They're agree. Me and Michael Cole fucking killed it. That's right.

Now, with that being said, it's because the matches are awesome. We're only as good as what you're talking about. But me sitting next to Michael Cole, I am so lucky. Hey, this motherfucker is so good, dude. He is a Rolodex of information at all times. Anything I say, it feels like he's in my brain with me. Like he understands either where I'm going or what I'm headed. Last night, he mispronounced counter at one point that was a fun time yeah that happened in the

middle of a match but he's the greatest i'm literally set up with like five parachutes i'm having a great time it's a uh but i appreciate i'm enjoying the hell out of it i'm a little tired i'm a little tired i was down there long weekend yeah since thursday the boys all uh including foxy went back home for father's Day weekend, enjoy it. So I was down in Tampa all by myself. Didn't want to board the dogs, you know, this weekend. And then also all next week or put them in their pet palace or have family stay at the house or whatever we were going to do. Because it's seven animals, so it's a lot of things.

So Sam wasn't able to make it because we're leaving next week. So I was just down there by myself. A lot of me and my thoughts. Sure. All right. That was fun. Played some music. Yeah.

Played some music. Okay. Pool. Yeah. There was a pool. I sat outside by the pool. I did DoorDash by myself. Nice.

Hey, here we go. Let's go. What'd you get? What'd you get? You know, it turns out delivery issues. Oh, hey, rolling blackouts in the deliveries. Yeah, it's tough right now. Yeah, I actually had to go pick up my food at 7-Eleven, but I did order a DoorDash thing that came four hours later.

Okay. Nice. Because I guess the delivery app was out for DoorDash. I don't know if that was Friday night. Maybe, I think it had to have been maybe Saturday night. I'm not sure which night it was when I was kind of outside by the pool waiting for myself. I ordered something and then it basically said my order was canceled and there was no people to pick it up. Then two and a half hours later, I didn't even notice, they found a Dasher for me. And then it showed up like three and a half hours later. And the driver,

Joshua, sent me a text and said, your food's been sitting here for two and a half hours. They said they will not remake it. I was like, that's cool. Bring it on over. So it's four hours late when put it, there's some in the fridge or some, uh, that's going to be bad by the time we get back down there. But it was nice to kind of have my own little time down there. Don't love it. Obviously got lonely at times, just smoked a massive amount of dope down there whenever that happened. But I went golfing on Saturday. How was it? Okay, so, you know, I text Coach Shipley. Of course. Super Bowl champion in Tampa Bay.

Gatekeeper down there. Okay, Thursday night or Friday morning. I don't remember when it was. I texted him. I said, hey, I think I'm going to be alone on Saturday. Is there any golf courses or anything I can just go hit up, you know, spend some time? I was thinking, you know, just go golf by myself, play some music, chill, have a, have a great time. You know what I mean? He was like, yeah, let me go ahead. And he, cause AQ loves golf and he's been down there and won a Superbowl. So he connects me with some guy,

big Mitch. Okay. So big Mitch, myself and AQ are on a group text. And this is like five minutes before the show on Friday. Okay. Big Mitch then while the show's happening, puts me in a group text and this is like five minutes before the show on friday okay big mitch then while the show's happening puts me in a group text with big dan oh daddy this is about 130 145 ish they connect big dan then puts me into a group text with maddie okay it's so and that's like two o'clock and by the time our show ended on friday 305 310 315 i had a tea time set saturday morning 9 a.m okay nice with from maddie via big dan and big mitch all from an aq call it was very nice people were like aq call somebody hey he needs to get on a course like i got him boom incredibly hospitable by big mitch big dan who i still have yet to talk to or meet but they were just part of a kind of a chain text message saying, I appreciate them.

Matty, cool guy. I say there's no way in fucking hell that I'm golfing at 9 a.m. All right? Fair. No chance. No way. I drink a Celsius right before Friday night Smackdown. We got Roman and Rey Mysterio in a hell in a cell.

I'm not sleeping until probably 2, 2.33 a.m. maybe. There's no way I'm up to golf at 9 a.m or whatever so i say i'm so sorry and with all the transactions i'm like i'm not golfing with these people all right this is my first weekend alone i'm not signing up to go golf with fucking big mitch three guys you don't know i don't know who these people are or whatever and maddie responded me in a private text and he was like hey what time you want to golf at 9 a.m too early you have something going on or whatever he's like i said i think i can make in the afternoon but i'm not 100 sure he's like all right cool one o'clock you're coming basically it was like you're coming and i never ever do this is something i would never in a million years do

but i'm like literally i'm not just sitting here by myself all day right and i don't think there was other than the golf tourney which only got a you know electric on sunday i guess yeah there's really nothing for me to do so i go gate for a gate you know there's a gate for a gate we go back long drive all the way back deep into this beautiful golf course absolutely gorgeous golf course i drive in i. I park my car. I get up there. They say, who are you here to meet? I say, Maddie?

They go, oh, he's in the back, way back or whatever. I'm like, cool, I need to buy some clothes here though. I don't have any clothes.

So I was looking for a shirt, shorts, needed a hat. And then Maddie comes in, shakes my hand. I go, cool, which cart is ours?

No cart, we're walking. What? Oh. Oh. Well, I'm going cart is ours? No cart, we're walking. What? Oh. Oh. Well, I'm going to need some. Some gotchas. I'm going to need some gotchas.

Yeah. We are. He was like, yeah, do you want a cart? He asked me, do you want a cart? And I was like, is that something? He was like, we can get you a cart if you need a cart, but this is like a walking course or whatever. And I'm like, okay, cool.

I've only done this one other time in my life. I was forced to do it then. Okay. This is kind of like one of those. those feels like i'm not forced to do this i can leave but okay i'll do this we're gonna have a day here so i get these incredible shoes uh great g4 hat g dash 4fore great brand we should think about it actually okay they have great hats it seemed like good shoes i think this entire thing right down bruce probably very expensive but bruce or ph Phil should write that down. We should potentially do something with them.

So I get this whole thing. We go out there. Rondé Barber's golfing in the group. Really? Yeah. Me, Rondé Barber, a guy who owns a bank. Great guy.

Okay. Named Paul. Good guy. And then Matty. And we went out there. We had four caddies. My guy, Tony, fucking top of the line

tony's been there 20 years 15 years knows that course inside and out he knows every single one of those 147 sand traps seven mile course i walked every foot of them 580 feet in a mile. I walked every single one of them seven times on this golf course. Had the time of my life. I had a blast. Rondé Barber, one of the coolest dudes I've never met before. He was awesome. We were having a good time.

There was nobody else out on the course. I guess not a lot of people golfing in the afternoon in Tampa in the middle of summer. It was 110 to get there. I sweat a lot. I was hot as balls out there walking around. Rondé Barber, awesome. Paul, awesome. Matty, awesome.

I met the guy, I think, that created the Bloomin' Onion, maybe. Get out of town. Yeah, I think so. Hey, good course. You have gold hands. It was awesome, dude. Place was the coolest place I've ever been, I think. How'd you play?

Yeah. How are we looking with the 20-millimeter 20 million i mean this isn't your local muni i assume tough course so you know i what i've learned is the people that are members there like enjoy golf but they also like the seclusion i think of the place so it has to be a course that they can play on a regular basis that they don't just get bored of. So I think it's a pretty fucking tough. It needs to be challenging. It is a tough course, I think. Rondé's a hell of a player. I mean, a hell of a player. And he was having a good time, too. It wasn't like, hey, boring golf, Rondé.

It was like, hey, music playing, having a good time. Paul, the guy, great golfer. They were all very good golfers, you know. But I think I kept up. I mean, I definitely lost out of everybody but i didn't like slow down and that was my first time on the course i was gonna say everyone else has played the course so it's a little different for them versus i got them to pop a couple times early when i told them you know i've been hitting the backyard let's hope

the mat translates to the grass you know good golf good golf yeah we'll see we'll see you know did you play better than you thought you would? Yeah, I played pretty good. And I think when you walk, by the way, you don't want to just go zigzag through the entire course because that seven miles becomes 14. So I think you dial in a little bit. And Tony, my fucking caddy,

he eliminated a club from the bag after two bad shots with the club. He said, we don't need the four. Wow. Puts it in there. That good. Yeah, he was good. So then the next one probably would have been a four. And he just brings with the glove. He said, we don't need the four. Wow. Puts it in there. That good. Yeah, he was good. So then the next one probably would have been a four

and he just brings out the five. He's like, here you go. It might take two but swing out of that thing. He gave me like golf lessons through the day. I mean,

it was a, I feel like I might have played really good golf for the first time ever being out. I shot under 100 by a good bit. There you go. They kept score.

I did have to pick up and there was a big number on that. But it was like real. It felt like it was. I enjoyed it a lot. I really enjoyed it. I think we're after four hours and 110 degrees. That's not bad.

Good sweat there. Four and a half hours. Oh, what are you talking about? Oh, yeah. I'm talking drenched. Two shirts. And I got a Red Bull Yodka. Oh.

Okay. It got brought out there, and I didn't have the. So every two holes, there's a water thing where you just get it's like i don't know they have their bottle on it but it tastes like fiji i mean it was just like it was one of the coolest places i've ever been very i shouldn't have been there obviously i should have been there and once i learned the price to get in i'm like oh okay we'll be back this is fun maybe i don't know to be honest that's how much i enjoyed it like i had a great so it did make you want to like go play go play more. Yeah. Like, I, yes.

Like, I did. Now, Saturday night, 2 a.m., 3 a.m., for the first time in, like, 15 years, I get woken up in the middle of the night, both hamstrings cramping. Oh, no. And anybody that's ever, ha! Oh, yeah. Ha! Yeah.

Then you try to stretch one. Then the other one's tightening up. I did a full leg lock butt drop onto the bed 3 a.m you know and you're a little bit half asleep i haven't had that since college whenever we were going through some workout where you're both your hamstrings just cramp normally when you're growing up you get like one at a time or whatever if you're playing sports then you get the double one you're like oh this is the worst thing of all time you know i got it saturday night after that seven mile walk red bull yadka drink drink like it's water in a couple holes.

I mean, I was not in a great spot, but I would do it again. I'm still sore to this day. If I would have had to climb that cage last night if Boog sort of came out with a guitar, I'm not sure I would have been able to get up there. With the legs? Yeah, I don't think with the legs we would have been able to get up there. But I feel like the golf game is coming around. How was your guys' weekend?

Everything good? Did you guys enjoy it? Did you enjoy yourself? Oh, yeah. We also played golf. Crazy that it actually took you a less amount of time to walk 18 than it did for us to 18 with a car. We had a 2 o'clock tee time.

We didn't tee off until 2.45. I think they booked about 100 people for 2 o'clock, so that was nice. But it was a good weekend. Well, 2 o'clock's a good time, too, because you'll catch the tail end of the afternoon so it might be hot but it'll cool down you could sleep in still get a lunch or brunch there well and the weather was so bad you know we flew back friday night and it was just pouring so we figured out there'd be nobody on the course and boy it was beautiful at two o'clock and there were a lot of people there father's day weekend too yeah yeah there's also a wedding there. Poor planning, but... I think whenever you...

You could have never known a wedding was going to be there. Congrats to them. Yeah. We told them. Shout out, love. You told them congrats? Oh, yeah. Driving by.

Clack, clack. Oh, it wasn't while you were walking. It was while you were driving. They were taking pictures. Any music playing while you guys were driving by? Who was running the music? I don't think so. I don't think so.

No, yeah, because it was post running into the little cart room real quick. Oh, they got it, yeah. Grab a burger, grab a dog. Yeah, the turn, the turn. The turn, there it is. Yeah, I play golf. Yeah, you do. You play a lot more than me, actually.

You're pretty damn good. Oh, I would not say that. I haven't been sniffing 100 in quite some time, but we'll get there eventually. So I think whenever you play with good golfers, it makes you better. You have to kind of play to their their level. It's also much faster. Even if we're walking, those dudes were walking pretty straight. That wasn't like, oh, here we go.

Tony, my caddy, a couple times said, I've been here before. Not a lot, but you should be right over here. He had to kick a bush out of the way. There was a moccasin in there. They said there's allegedly a panther that roams the course. Oh, jeez.

Florida Panthers. No, thank you. I was like, what, there's a puma? You guys got a puma? There's a jungle cat about to run around here? 16th off to the right. Now, I did not even know we were on hole 18 when we got to hole 18, by the way. Locked in?

No, there just isn't like a big pillar that says you're on the 15th, 16th. I think we're playing from. Tips. I don't know if it was the tips, but I think it was somewhere back from where I normally play. But it was a long conversation with them all day, you know, good conversation. And they all, I think, got on very early. They're on AJ's side about the $20 million bet. Oh, sure.

Yeah. Because they heard about it. They learned about it. They had heard about it potentially in this whole thing because they they knew I enjoyed golf. They said they heard I liked golf or whatever. And I was like, I like it. I like the thought of it. Mostly I like hitting balls. I'll watch it. Okay. I love watching it, but going out and doing golf, it just takes so much time. I don't, I don't get to do it as much, not only because the schedule is crazy, but also like mentally wise, I don't know how I can just do, not only because the schedule's crazy, but also mentally-wise,

I don't know how I can just do something for so long. Now, down there, I think I could do what I did there again on Saturday. I think I could do it again. I think that's why a lot of people do that type of thing whenever they go golf. But by the end of it, I think now we're all a little bit- Boozy. Potential little boozy golf playing there at the end. But I think I got a couple of them that were like, you can get top 50 one time.

Some believers now. One time. I mean, they were changing my swing as we were going because that inside out of the pocket thing that I said I was able to do with the clubs, I hadn't done with a driver. And they were like, same thing. Take it over there.

And they were like lining my feet at one point, backing me up a little bit. They put a spot on the ball. They're like, hit that thing right there. And it was like, I hit like a 350, like best drive i've ever hit oh damn yeah so it was really coming around so at the end they were hyping me up a little bit now that might have been all bullshit which it probably was but whenever you watch some pros play golf you think to yourself god damn these guys are good yeah but then when you watch these pros play at the u.s open you're like oh they're

also human okay so there is a little bit of a snap hook out of bounds in a massive moment for woo stays in yeah there is a potential collapse by big golf ball whacker guy there is a situation where they look human it just is very very very rare and i think that's why the u.s open every single year is something we look forward to because the u.s open i like, has a real sense that it's the course versus the players, and we're going to make them pay. There's been snapped clubs in the past. There's been terrible scores. There's normally bitching and complaining by the golfers about whatever's going on on the course, whether the rough is too tall, the greens are too fast. It's just a much different tourney than everything else. And on Sunday, that little thing kind of reared its ugly head for a lot of those golfers. And listening to Jon Rahm talk about winning, not only on his first Father's Day,

not only a week, less than a week removed from beating Uncle COVID and losing out on a few million dollars after a six stroke lead going into the final day. But also him saying that in his biggest, I forget who was interviewing. Somebody interviewed him and said his biggest thing was controlling his emotions down the stretch. And he said on the back nine, he never felt more comfortable, even though he saw all the big names on the leaderboard. All he wanted to do was get his name up there. And he said he felt good. He said, I hit two putts, and I'm going to remember forever. He said, but it was a great day. It was really cool to listen to him speak.

I've never heard him speak before. He seems like an awesome guy. And any time you win, when everybody else seems to be struggling, it has to feel pretty good. Like, hey, I literally gave my best fucking effort, and I beat this course that beat everybody else on one particular day. One week after COVID took me hot now this leads me to think maybe for that top 50 thing i'm trying to get 20 million out of at least one week before an event that i like i should be trying to get

whatever covid because i think you'll get 28 whatever it is at the time maybe covid 40 yeah it'll be there however fast because i heard covid's fucking like rabbits by the way oh yeah covid 20 is already it's already in the oven it's moving it's already it's cooking it's coming out there so maybe i'll do that because last week when he definitely had it he had a six-stroke lead over everybody this week after he beats it he's the only one that scores negative basically on the last day i I mean, you tell me, does COVID make you a better golfer? Research tells me maybe. Possibly.

And I will roll the dice with whatever COVID-40 is coming, whatever $20 million is on the line. But what a day for old fucking John Rahm. Good for him. I think everybody was pumped for him. Yeah, it was incredible to watch. And you do feel bad for Oosthuizen because Rahm finished a little bit early, and Oosthuizen, he just had to hold finished a little bit early and oost hazen like he just he just had

to hold on a little bit longer and he like the wheels really did fall off for him on the the last four holes or so and at one point i saw because i was following along on my phone throughout the day yesterday i was in some meetings yesterday by the way really yeah because normally whenever i go over there we go over there it's after the show everything has kind of been done and then we go i was like am i allowed to and cole's like yeah absolutely dude come on so i go to a couple of these meetings i kind of like learn some stuff and i'm like fascinating okay the full process yeah i don't think i'm supposed to be here for any of these ever again but this is very yeah very fascinating but i was trying to keep up with everything there was uh tj was tj was watching a basketball game

on his phone so i got a chance to go check that out. Clippers Suns, oh my God, okay. Suns are about to do it. Yeah, here we go. Suns are about to do it. I was watching. Hey, they're six-point lead basically all game, too. They like maintained almost.

There was a lot of potential droughts they didn't. But then I'm watching, yeah, Devin Booker is an absolute superstar. Chris Paul, COVID diagnosis post-vaccine. He's in protocol. How long will the protocol be? Shams told us he was going to miss at least the first game whenever he came on the show last week. Devin Booker put the team on his back.

That was fun to watch. Good for Devin Booker. Good for the Suns. They have not lost, obviously, since. Of course. The Suns have four. The Profits. And also, Clippers fans got knocked out last night.

Oh, man. You don't go into the desert. Just don't go into the desert right now and try to fuck with anybody, okay? That Suns hitting them different. That COVID Sun that hit the Phoenix Suns fans is a little bit different than, I guess, L.A. and Denver. Yeah. Because a couple fans have come into the desert, and they've got run out of the goddamn thing with some piss in their mouth. Yeah.

There was a follow-up interview to Sunons and Four Guy who got his ass kicked. He said he didn't get that beat up. He just scratched his nose. Yeah, and get demolished. There's potentially a rough and rowdy coming. Dave Portnoy, I guess, is trying to make that happen. That's good business. Would love to see round two.

After watching the follow-up interview of the guy that got beat up by the Sons and Four Guy, I would bet every dollar I have on the Sons and Four Guy in a follow-up-up fight too where they both know they're going to fight each other okay just mortgage just for future just for future reference but then i'm keeping up with the golf tourney on my phone with alerts and texts from you guys it was almost uh it was almost brooksie and brooksie it was close hey that was one two i think five four right yeah i mean at the turn pretty much and boy de chambeau just melted down on the back. I think he was eight over on the back. But yeah, I mean, going into the turn, like the leaderboard, I mean, it was all recognizable names, and then they did.

Everyone kind of just choked down the stretch except for Rahm. Okay, so let's get to a break. Big shout out to the U.S. Open. Shout out. Huge. Hell of an entertaining day to follow along with thank you for that big thanks i want to sell hope everybody had a uh yeah i mean see it's tough to celebrate this type of thing okay because i was tested so i bet on our theory the research yeah

told me that's right that covid makes you a better golfer if your name is John. Okay? My COVID research told me that one week ago. All right. So that's the type of better I am. Let's go ahead and test it. I put 500 on him on Wednesday or something like that. Quick plus 850, 4750 payout yesterday. Watching John Rahm do his thing.

But watching that leaderboard, it didn't seem like he was going. He was kind of down there. He didn't seem like he was going. When he became a closer like the Kentucky fucking Derby on my phone, you should have seen how excited I was getting. I'm like,

is some bitch going to do it? COVID does make you a better golfer. Now, that is not, hey. We don't know for sure. We don't know for sure. Not a doctor.

My money has backed research so far. Testing that theory. That could be different. We'll get Diggs on a course, see how he's far. Testing that theory. That could be different. We'll get digs on it, of course. See how he's doing. Here we go. The celebration from Rom, too.

Those two putts. It was incredible. The baby, the whole thing. I guess he got engaged to his wife or married his wife two years ago, three years ago there. It was awesome. Good for him. We have some big news for you. Yeah.

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Andrew, you host the podcast, The Business of Sport. This feels like the business and sport coming together for your dream. This is a big time to be Andrew Brandt. We need you right now, Bob. Hey, Pat. This is for sports law business nerds like me. It's a big day. How many cases in the United States Supreme Court deal with sports?

You could probably count them on one, maybe two hands over the last, whatever, 100 years. So when something goes to the Supreme Court that involves sports, it's big. So let me get us up to date on where we are with this case. All of them, as you mentioned, from West Virginia football player leading the charge to sort of get the NCAA to loosen restraints on what colleges can give or not give to athletes. So the Ninth Circuit with a court before the Supreme Court said, hey, there's no restrictions on what they can do as long as it's education related. Okay, so we're going to come back to that. Okay.

The Supreme Court said that lower court, the Ninth Circuit out of California, they said, yeah, we're in. That's the deal. Nine to zero, the Supreme Court unanimously agrees with the plaintiffs, the players, that there are no restrictions on benefits that schools can give to players as long as they're education related. What does that mean? That means internships. That means computers. That means study abroad. That means internships that relate to somehow to their education. It's hard to define. But let me just say what before we get to questions what it is not. And I do think this is coming. But what it is not is pay for play. Okay, so I appreciate you saying that it is not because you are, you know, I feel like lawyers

are like doctors. You can't say a definite until it actually is because there's so much that has to happen for something to become a definite. I understand. But with Kavanaugh,

I like beer. I still like beer. Brett Kavanaugh, I mean, I bet you he used to just house beers or whatever and he probably still does, especially after making a statement like he made it sounded like although this is about educational stuff it sounded like with the broader picture and if we could pull up these quotes by the way the general sense from kavanaugh was basically like the ncaa is not above

the law everybody else has to pay their workers to make the vast amounts of money that they are making. The schools are conspiring with competitors to pay no salaries to the workers who are making the schools billions of dollars on theory that consumers want the schools to pay their workers nothing. Then also went on to say,

to be sure the NCAA and its member colleges maintain important traditions that have become a part of the fabric of America, Game days in Tuscaloosa and South Bend. Shout out South Bend, by the way, here in Indiana. The packed gyms and stores in Durham. The women's and men's lacrosse championships on Memorial Day weekend. Track and field in Eugene. Spring in baseball. World Series, Oklahoma City, Omaha. The list goes on. But those traditions alone. So it was nice. This is the sandwich technique that you lawyers love doing.

Let's go ahead and build it up at the front. All right. Then let's slide in like the piece of meat, the big problems we have. Then put the bread back on down at the bottom. But those traditions cannot justify the NCAA's decision to build a massive money-raising enterprise on the backs of student-athletes who are not fairly compensated. Nowhere else in America can businesses get away with agreeing not to pay their workers a fair market rate on the theory that their product is defined by not paying their workers a fair market rate. And under ordinary principles of antitrust law, it's not evident why college sports should be any different.

The NCAA is not above the law. What Zach Kavana're you're you're you have a law degree and everything like that you know this much more than me is that him saying hey whatever other ones that you guys think is the right you know push to get this if it makes its way to the supreme court we're on your side is that what he's saying like hey let's cooking these. I know the education one was tip of the iceberg because you had means for actual law and grounds for actual thing. Let's get that other shit in here, too. Is that what he's saying? Yeah, he's setting up the stage. Yes.

Okay. I like beer. I still like beer. I like college football. Those motherfuckers should be paid, though. I like this. A good move by him, I think. You're coming to my class next.

I need you to set me up like that, and then the students will just soak it all in. So listen, Kavanaugh is setting up for the next time. Most of us saw Kavanaugh, as you said, last time publicly in his confirmation hearings and everything that came out of that. Who knew that Justice Brett Kavanaugh would be the champion of the United States Supreme Court for student athlete rights? Even in his questioning of oral arguments back a couple months ago when this case was heard, he was striding against the NCAA. He was after them. Like, why is this there? Why are we still doing this? All the things you

just read, he was forecasting when he was asking the questions. And he wrote a savage, scathing opinion against the NCAA. Now, let's temper it. That is still not beyond education-related benefits. But he's saying to the NCAA and Jeff Kessler, the lawyer who's representing NFL and NBA players, you come here next time, I'll still be here. And we're going to go further. Yeah, he'll still be there. And that's basically what he's setting the stage for. Because he's saying the NCAA is stuck to this principles of amateurism for 100 years. We're outdated. As you said, we got these multi-billion dollar contracts. We got a different stage of NCAA athletic money, business of sports. We can't just hold on to this amateurism

anymore. So now we have education related benefits. Well, as of today, Pat, you can't be a school that stops them from giving some fancy computer. You can't be a school that stops them from giving some high paid internship. You can't be a school that does this stuff. Down the road, we'll see what happens with pay for play. But right now, anything tethered to education, the Supreme Court says, yeah, NC can't stop that. You're done. Do you think any of the other justices even realize what type of racket was going on with NCAA and the athletes? Or do you think that they are so, I mean, I assume you're busy as a justice in the Supreme Court,

and you said there's only been a handful of sports things that have ever made their way up there. Is it, and I assume there'll be more and more younger just, I don't know. I'm not even getting into that. I saw that that made its way into my timeline, and if it makes its way into my timeline, that is not good when it comes to that whole thing. I knew Kavanaugh, though, before this particular statement because of his performance at that thing or whatever. But do you think he potentially was the one in there that had to lay out the case on why the NCAA is such bullshit?

Was that why it was 9-0? Or do you think the Supreme Court would have always been fully on the back of the student-athletes if they had known that there was this type of racket going on? Were they just kind of oblivious to it, you think? Yeah, I think they knew it was a 9-0 decision, unanimous decision. This was Gorsuch, Justice Gorsuch, who was the newest justice before Kavanaugh, wrote the majority opinion. He wrote the main opinion, and then Kavanaugh, for good measure,

took all these shots in a concurring opinion. Yeah, it was 9-0. I didn't think there was a Justice Breyer during the oral arguments. I thought he was kind of squarely in the camp of the NCAA, but lo and behold, no, it's 9-0. Listen, you just mentioned something, the changing world of sports. Take this bigger picture. Three years ago, the last case in the United States Supreme Court about sports was sports betting, new jersey beat back the ncaa the nba the nfl major league baseball hockey saying no you can't stop sports gambling and then it started in the states and here we are today you know you've got a company like fandu sponsoring a big national show i've heard about yeah thank you they are spotting hey hold on they're sponsoring national shows too they needed that you know what i mean they only had on. They're sponsoring national shows, too. They needed that. You know what I mean? They only had regional shows.

Then they got national shows. But, yeah, you're right. There's a precedent. Whenever the Supreme Court gets involved, right, that normally becomes the precedent. And that's where, like, we all learn about insert versus insert. And that's all Supreme Court rulings, right? And then that's kind of how the ball gets rolling. Do they kind of set the tone for all the other judges or is that

kind of how that whole world works? Yeah, listen, there's all these cases apply to be heard by the Supreme Court. The ones that they take are like 3% of cases that apply, apply to be heard by the Supreme Court. And if they're going to take it, they're going to do something. So they're going to set a new market as we saw for sports betting three years ago, and now we have for the NCAA. Wow. So what we have is the NCAA being told, hey, you can't hang on these traditions. You know, just because it's happened 50 years ago, just because of the way it's always been,

we're going to do some change here. And I think it's a big moment. Now, again, no pay for play, but this is the start. This is what I call the inflection point for future changes in athlete pay. My last question for you before Ty and Connor have stuff for you, and we can't thank you enough for joining us, Business of Sports podcast. You also have a newsletter going on. What are you doing right now newsletter-wise?

Yeah, I thought I'd add some more content to my plate. Smart. So every Sunday I put out a newsletter called the sunday seven and it's just unique content for me you don't see on my podcast you don't see in my column for sports illustrated i think it's going well a lot of people are signing up you sign up at andrew-brant.com well congratulations on that we will sign up for sure um my last question i forget what it was i was so captivated by the sunday seven you're you're going into a dry period right now and this is a bad time i think to start a

newsletter isn't it especially because the new i guess there's supreme court sport cases now yeah i guess you're gonna crush it that's on us i'm starting to look at a dry time here but you're like no there's a lot popping off right now behind the scenes supreme court's involved yeah i can't wait to read it andrew-brandtt.com. Go ahead, Ty. Andrew, this is obviously a big deal and like a big stepping stone in the right direction. But like you mentioned, you know, it's not really done yet

and pay for play hasn't come yet. What do you think like a realistic timeline is for all this stuff to kind of get worked out? It's a great question, Ty, because what also is happening right now is we've talked about before name image likeness. Six states are going into effect in a week, July 1. And then the Congress is talking about all these bills they're going to pass.

The NCAA has got to do something, and something this week, because these six states can't have advantages over others. Again, look at recruiting. They're going to be promising things that other state schools can't do. So you have that. We'll see how the NCAA you have that. We'll see how the NCAA reacts to that. We'll see how the NCAA reacts to this Alston decision. And there's going to be another case. I just feel it. Jeffrey Kessler, as I mentioned, he's got all these former students calling him right now. And it's going to be a busy time for the NCAA to back this off.

The NCAA has to react. And they only react, as we've seen, to react and they only react as we've seen they're underwater to litigation they only react to lawyers so there will be lawyers and there will be more lawyers so the ncaa mark emerson in the bunker right now he's got six states about to allow these amateur athletes to make money off of the name that their parents gave them, which is a wild thing that's about to happen. He's got that. And then all of a sudden, Kavanaugh in the Supreme Court, while Mark Emmert's like, all right, we've got to pay off the right people. We've got to get the right people quiet.

And all of a sudden, I like beer. I still like beer. It's like, not me, Pat. I mean, that is, I mean, it really stinks for Mark Emmert, who, you know, is always a guy who seems to stick his face into the cameras when adversity strikes. Not a guy that hides at all or relies upon a word that they made up. Amateurism was made up by them, wasn't it? Yeah, and you know what?

It's a fake word. So I can't go into court and say you know the Ty Schmidtism of this particular thing is why it has to happen it's like what is that well it might be a word

that we made up but it makes sense it's like I never understood how that fucking worked like well it's amateurism it's like

you made that word up so that's you can't just make up a word and that be your defense like that's just not how this whole thing works happy to hear

Mark Emmert might have to take some shrapnel on this entire thing what's on Connor yeah Andrew Emmer might have to take some shrapnel in this entire thing. What's on Connor? Yeah, Andrew, you just mentioned recruiting. So for this to really work, are they going to have to have a fixed rate for everybody? Or will

schools like Bama, LSU, Ohio State have more of a leeway to give players more money? Look for Houston. Houston, yeah. Houston's got oil money, Don. Look for signings. Yeah, I mean, the thing the NCAA always worries about is abuse, and this is going to happen.

You see the arms race that always happens with the facilities, the coaches' salaries, trying to get the best players. You know that's going to happen again, and that's really what scares the NCAA the most is that we're going to have a two-tiered system, if we don't already, with the haves and the have-nots and other schools having trouble keeping up. But listen, that's going to happen. The free market has already taken care of it.

And when the NCAA cries that we're going to lose athletes, we're going to lose sports, the natural response is, well, don't pay coaches $12 million. Take $5 million of that and support the other sports. And then they say, well, it's an arms race. So it's this circular reasoning and one thing about emmert pat i i liken him to roger goodell because he's not the one no no he he's taking the bullets no he hasn't no he hasn't he goes like this hey when starts popping off, you know what Mark Emmert does? It's awesome to watch every single time he's gotten so good at it. You ready?

It's like a tornado drill in his office. He hides. He just doesn't say a thing. He goes under his desk and says, don't ask me. It's amateurism. Fuck off. That's what he says. It's amateurism.

Get out of here. It's right down the road here in Indianapolis. I see him do it. He just gets under his desk and lets everybody else fight his wars and he says it's amateurism. That guy's done for, Brent. You know it. He just got a contract extension.

Fuck that. What? Tens of millions, right? The college president's part of his job is take the bullets so they don't have to. You don't know college presidents. You know, Armour, he's the face and he's taking the heat so they don't have to. How will they adjust? They won't survive. This is just like, there's going to be leagues that pop up. And I think that's why the old... Here's what I leave you with, Pat. I think NCAA sports is going to be a two-tier system.

There's going to be NCAA regulating some sports. And then there's going to be big-time college basketball and football. Something else. Something else. It's not going to be regulated by a body in Indianapolis anymore. I think there's going to be a change of foot where we're going to be regulated by a body in Indianapolis anymore. I think there's going to be a change of foot where we're going to look back in 50 years and like, really the NCAA regulated college football? Like that's weird.

Yeah, I agree. And I think at one point, you know, they sold their right to name a champion to the BCS and now they have the playoff, which is cool. And it's an ever evolving time. And I could see why traditional old school college folks aren't happy about the future potentially looking glim. But if the NCAA and the athletes could figure out how to make it work without there being abuse, which is definitely going to happen, I think it could survive. But at this point, it's going to be tough with how much money is out there. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now, man, or joined us now,

a man that talks all about that all the time, newsletter, the Sunday 7 at andrew-brant.com. And also the Business of Sports pod host, ladies and gentlemen, Andrew Brant. Thank you, Andrew. Joining us in the studio, the Hammer Down Boys. How's it going, boys? How's it going, boys? They're live 4 p.m. Eastern Daylight Time every single day, YouTube.com forward slash hammer. Don! And if you don't listen live, you can download the podcast.

Its title is Hammer. Don! I mean, we're past it. We're way past it. A lot has happened since this point. There was a lot that has happened since this happened. The England bet for the first half against Scotland that you guys were very, very, very strong on. $14,000 bet for me,

$11,000 win for you guys would have been, was an absolute tie, 0-0, which we all figured would happen because guess what? It's soccer. More specific, it is the Euros where there is a lot of this happening. You guys were certain England was going to win the first half against Scotland. They didn't. They didn't win the whole game. And now England's losing to COVID. At Bubba Gumpino. What is going on with the England club? And Friday, I know we're

past it. You're back on the winning streak. You're doing well. We're past it. I was never upset at you. I love that you took the shot. And I love that you not only bet with your heart that has been with England since you were born because the taxes and everything like that, but also you said you liked it overall. This team stinks. It's not coming home.

Isn't that the case? It is not coming home again since 1966, right? It was the last time. Is that what Nigel said? It hasn't come home since then. It sounds like it's going to be out for at least another couple years out and about. The streets have fallen in love with it. Okay.

It is falling in love with being other places than home. It is now. I believe it's a street thing. I don't know if it's ever going to come home. The streetlights came on since 1966. And guess what? Never came home. And now COVID is trying to beat the hell out of it.

Are you all right? Is everything okay? This thing, it went to the store. Okay? It never came back. 1966. You guys are singing every single time. My dad's coming home. He's coming home. Just like Ricky Bobby leaving those tickets down there in Talladega for his dad. His dad, and it feels like it feels like it might never be coming home for you either

that's a shame i hate it for you i hate it for you guys are passionate content of the video quality terrible but the song and the passion is awesome and that team stinks is that the case am i wrong or am i right here just got to tomorrow, get to the knockout stage. Even a draw tomorrow, we're still through. I mean, Stones hits that wide-open header. That game's over. Yeah, I mean, it was a sitter. I mean, someone tried to tell me that wasn't a sitter.

It was a sitter. You're wide open in the six-yard box by yourself. That has to go in the back of the net. That son of a bitch walked right into the six and just sat right down. Yeah. That thing was a sitter all – I've seen it. Sitter right there. Who's going to play on our team, though?

If COVID's running wild like it probably does, and it has in the past with a lot of different teams. I don't know if England's different. Maybe they've got different air over there or whatever. But there's going to be a couple good players down. Maybe a couple more sitters are going to have to be standing out there. And is that good for the England squad? How's the depth?

How do we feel? Who are we playing? It might actually be good because the coach might play some of the players that are good instead of sitting them on the bench. Oh! There's always something, isn't there? There's always something to bitch about. It's the ref.

It's the league. It's the coach. It's this. Weather. There's always something. I love it. That's maybe my favorite part about soccer is it's never the league. It's the coach. It's this. Weather. There's always something. I love it. That's maybe my favorite part about soccer is it's never the team. It's never anything like it.

It's everything else that's going on with it. You show me one other team in the tournament who won their first game and changed both their fullbacks the next game. Show me one other team. If All-Star's your fullback, guess what? You fucking got to beat him to rock. You got to beat him to rock. You try to find another one. You don't take them out of there.

What are we doing at Tone Diggs? The COVID Cowboys still. I see the hat is still on. Well, I was going to say, England could be one of those rare breeds like I and John Rom and only get better with COVID. Yeah, I understand. You did get much, much better during your COVID cave days. Yeah. Yeah, I understand you did get much, much better during your COVID cave days. Then you became an immunocorn, and you've only since grown since then,

except for the England first-half bet against Scotland. I can't harp on that enough. You guys are incredibly great gamblers. But there was a massive bet on Friday that was a loss that you co-signed against, I guess, because you were teammates with Gump. Although you faded him the first game of his Super Bowl or whatever. But I didn't know we were still going to do a cowboy

hat. I thought there was a new sheriff in town! There might be a new sheriff in town, but over here at the COVID Corral, instead of just being one COVID cowboy, I said we should build a COVID community of COVID cowboys. John Rahm, welcome to the Corral instead of just being one COVID cowboy. I said we should build a COVID community of COVID cowboys. John Rahm, welcome to the Corral.

If England comes back and wins, they will also be welcome into the COVID Corral. It's a nice little place. We have fun. Oh, so you guys are like Augusta. It's like you got green jackets but come from cowboy hats that just come out of nowhere. Imagine if you sent John Rahm a cowboy hat

and said, hey, COVID cowboy. Oh, you got him. And said, hey, COVID cowboy. Something to think about. Welcome to the club. Oh, that would be awesome. With a belt buckle too. Something to think about. Oh, my God.

That would be awesome. Congrats to John Rahm, by the way. That's awesome. Have you golfed since getting COVID? Did it work for you or just for him? It didn't. I don't think it reflects only for golf. I think it's whatever your main focus is on, you get better at that.

Oh, so it's like Adderall. Yeah. Holy shit. Yeah, you kind of like get dialed in a little bit. Don't get off the tracks. Wow. Because you're gambling. Correct.

You became the best you've ever been. John Rom, golf becomes the best he's ever been. Unbelievable at golf. Is that being talked about in the asterisks? That there are potential cases where you know people say they're at 50 miles garrett says 50 cam newton i think he said he felt a cloud so it was happening now this covid19 i mean this thing had some depth okay this wasn't some shallow ass virus no no no you know at times it was able to be spread via eye contact we got to remember that through this

entire thing a lot of negatives talk about though, it took out a lot of people. That is terrible. Hate it. Do not love it. Stop the entire world. There's been a lot of people that said afterwards they feel a certain way. But it feels like for Jon Rahm and Tone Diggs, there's a chance that they were able to get more locked in and become better somehow.

That's wild. I hope that's the type of COVID I get, not that kill one. No kid. I hope I don't get the killer COVID. I hope I get the concentration COVID. Alright, that's what I hope that's the type of COVID I get not that kill one I hope it's at least the full one no kidding I hope I don't get the killer COVID I hope I get the concentration COVID alright that's what I want steroid COVID

a different strain I want a little bit of the sativa indica as opposed to the murdica right you know what I mean that's the COVID strain that I am looking for

because in this room that guy became the greatest gambler I've ever seen in my entire life and John Rahm wins the fucking Open afterwards after leading by six strokes going into a Sunday in another tournament with COVID. It's like, yeah, what is it?

How many different? I feel so bad for the people that didn't get those strands because it seems like you're living your best life. This son of a bitch hasn't taken a cowboy hat off since COVID. Thought he was losing it today because there's a new sheriff. Turns out, no, no. It's just a whole community over there. The final test will be Chris Paul. If Chris Paul comes back and dominates

in his first game back, I mean... Imagine he puts up Devin Booker's stats in the first game. Triple, double, 40 points. Or maybe he doesn't have the gene that we have. The strain, not the gene. Oh, you think it's... I'm surprised. Or maybe he doesn't have the gene that we have. The strain, not the gene. Oh, you think it's potentially the gene. I'm surprised that no one has contacted me for a vial of blood.

Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a man who I think went to a COVID cave this weekend for his cult. Ladies and gentlemen, A.J. Hoff. God, it's great to see you back, A.J. How are you? What's happening, man? I feel like it's been a long time. I called you from the trip. I couldn't, yeah.

You know, that never works out too well. I couldn't see you. I could barely hear you. So sorry about that. Good to be back in our normal spots. No, it's great to have you back, and we appreciate the phone call. You had a great hat on at the time.

You were wearing your cult costume. You had to wear it. So is everybody in there wearing Buckeye gear just the entire day? You go in the pool. It's Buckeye swim trunks. We're peeing into the Buckeye pool with our Buckeye Crocs on. Is that an entire weekend of just all Ohio State, everything there? Yeah, pretty much.

God, that sounds awesome. Think about how much money they make up there. Well, yeah, they brought in, over the time we were there, like four days, they brought in $3 million. They're not messing around. Hey, those Colts, they get it. Yeah, they do. Got to pay your tithes.

Open up that checkbook. Got to pay your tithes. You enjoyed it, huh? I texted you, I forget what night it was, Saturday. I said, that literally sounds like the worst thing of all time. If I was asked to go to this, an entire resort is filled with places you can't go other than your room. And it may be away from, if you want to get away from anything, have a good time. That was a work trip for you.

And I'm incredibly impressed that you would do that just for charity. What a good guy you are. What a great guy, AJ. Good job, AJ. He could just write a check, you are. Great guy, AJ. He could just write a check, but he says, no, you know what? Drop me in the middle of the epicenter of every OH in the country, and I'll just do that for five days with my family and get zero hours of sleep or alone time. AJ, big, hey, thank you.

You're a hero, AJ. For charity, you're a fucking hero, dude. You're a hawk. I didn't do anything, but I did get the text Saturday, I know, after you had your, I'm sure you talked about already, your golf round, where you walked 18 holes for some reason in 700-degree weather. You said you shot a 90, but you picked up on two holes. That means you probably shot a 115.

No, they gave me full eights. Okay, then you probably got a 15 on those holes. Well, I could have if I would have actually finished. I mean, there was a gator near. I can't do that. I spread ball into the gators. And I also heard there was a potential Florida Panther roaming the land. I mean, what do you want me to do?

You want me to die on a Saturday, 150 degrees? No. Just give me the snowman. I'll keep it moving, dude. All right, you want me to die out there? I will say, I enjoyed walking while I was doing it. The double hamstring cramp 3 a.m. Saturday night was something I haven't experienced in a long time. That was tough.

The full old school, both legs, oh my God, stretch, stumble, stretch, locked up type thing. You think it's never going to end? I got past that, but it was a wild experience out there. I had a good time. Those are good people out there. I mean, it sounds like you were at a very, very nice course. Did you say what the name was? Are you allowed to?

I haven't said the name, but I don't think I've said the name on air, I don't think. But no big deal, dude. But you shouldn't have been there is what you're saying. Yeah, yeah. There's no way I should have been there. Rondé Barber, hell of a golfer. The group I was with, very good. They golf a lot.

You know what I mean? That place is for people that travel into town to golf travel back even in like i guess there's people that stay there that'll travel in middle of the week to play one round in the evening and then fly back for another meeting like the next day yeah i guess it's like uh i guess when you go there you love golf and i tell you what i can see why it was fucking fantastic so hot aj it was 150 degrees how was it down here that it had to be so hot down there yeah it was kind of overcast most of the time but yeah like and you know i burn very very easily so that's why i had the old bucket hat on all my kids were there so they want to be in the pool all day it was

i'm not built for that humidity man like if i don't if if it's not my decision to be there i just i don't want to be there imagine those training camps imagine those training camps down there i i guess like you know new orleans had to move they went to west virginia actually and i think they were doing some in mississippi maybe because new orleans humidity oh i mean in the where in training camp is i think that is initially why they're like we got to move this thing. We've got to get out of here. Arizona, I assume, in the middle of summer in the desert is bad.

Miami, I assume that is tough. That would be difficult. Now, not for me, obviously. Hey, not for me. I'm just kicking a ball. But, man, that would be tough. That's a certain advantage, though, early in the season when it's hot as balls down there and

you got a chance to go through a full camp with the humility and although your body will never actually adjust if you're from a cold town you've at least done it a little bit to get acclimated that is a death sentence for some teams coming down there if it's 110 that is a nightmare aj i mean you're right especially early in the. If guys aren't really coming from that. I remember we played in Miami one time. It was one of those days where it was probably 100. It was 9,000% humidity. And it was nasty.

We had guys cramping up all over the place after the game. Same thing, like you were talking about cramping after walking 18. You have that thing in the airplane. There's nothing you can do. You can barely stand up. Ha, ha, ha, ha. I don't know how it doesn't matter how tough you are okay it does not matter how tough you're AJ right there has played through

what a popped calf pop groin knee surgeries everything like that broken hands as soon as all of his fingers have been busted individually like some mob boss got a hold of him after he owed him something he you I bet whenever your hamstrings cramped, there was a, ah! There was, I think it gets everybody. That is some of the, I forgot about it. It's been over a decade since I experienced that. I went right back to the first time I got it. I think I was like 12 or 13 in my bedroom after a soccer tryout.

In the middle of the night, I went, I want to immediately back to that moment. I was just as helpless as I was then on Saturday night. It was like, Oh my God, what do we do here? It's tough. AJ, that shit hurts.

So what are you telling me? You are going to have to work yourself into golf shape if you're ever going to win this bet. So I want to let you know that at the beginning of the round, Hey, Ronday is a smart guy. How does he feel about your bet? So that's at the beginning of the round... Hey, Rondé's a smart guy. How does he feel about your bet? So, at the beginning of the round,

I think they were all very much calling me the dumbest human of all time. All right, don't try to tell me by the end of the round that I told you you were going to make it. I know that's where you're at. I can tell by your tone. I think they never gave me like... Because these guys golf a lot with a lot of great golfers, okay? And these guys are all much better than me at golf.

But they all, after we had a couple of drinks and we made some little changes to the swing and we started seeing some balls fly, Tony, my caddy, was starting to give me some reads. You know, some things were happening. They didn't give me like a, yeah, you're going to do it. But maybe, you know, 31 years they gave me. You know, this is a long time. 31 years is a long time. You could.

So at the beginning, very, it felt like a tough crowd. You know, it felt like the caddies were even all against me, obviously. And the other players. But then as we continued to play a little bit, and some shots were being showcased. Hey, out of the pocket. Hey, out of the pocket. How did that translate?

There was a couple of snap hooks. Almost hit a hole in one. Almost hit a hole in one. 204-yard par three. Cool. Congrats. out of the pocket okay how did that translate there was a couple snap hooks but I'm gonna say the whole one almost hit a hole in one 204 yard par three congrats five iron no big deal how you doing oh my God did you get a bogey on that hole no come on par no but I missed usually how it goes I had two put it yeah but the out of that thing um but I had a great time I had a blast AJ i'm happy you're back uh the big thing that happened this weekend obviously john rom i mean hell in a cell obviously yeah but other than that john rom went in this thing kovid might have made him a better golfer we kovid made

digs a better gambler i think in this particular strand of kovid that digs and i think john rom got it made him better all of a sudden. He said he was more relaxed on Sunday than he's ever been. Obviously, those two massive putts, everybody's falling down the leaderboard. I'm incredibly happy for that guy, AJ. Well, I was here. Zito connected me at the beginning when you came back here at the top of the hour, and so I was watching you talk about the different strands and everything.

But you're trying to tell Diggs that he is getting, he got what, like the performance enhancing COVID. And he's saying, no, I just have the clutch gene. And that's what my gene does to the normal COVID. Yeah, Diggs is saying there's only one strand of COVID. It's whether or not you got it in your body, like you actually have it. You either, you're either born with it nor or it's not and that's what digs is trying to spin which would make him a superhuman so that is why he's spinning

that narrative we're not sure if the research is accurate or not maybe rom and digs share that particular whatever but digs got much better at gambling i mean much much much better tenfold better at gambling whenever he got covet john rom Rahm, six-stroke lead with COVID last week, and then wins this thing when everybody else loses one week after COVID. You have to wonder if it's the same thing that Diggs got. Maybe they open-mouthed kissed. I'm glad he was able to play in the event. What did he have to show?

He had to test negative for a few days, I guess, before they would let him go to the US Open? I think the big thing in everybody is two negative tests in a row. I think that's the NBA thing for Chris Paul right now, and I think that was them. Now, granted, all these protocols change weekly, daily, it feels like at this point. By the way, I was reading an article

today, because a few weeks ago when this happened, you guys were talking about, did he have to stay in Columbus? What happened? He had a Southwest flight booked, or he was going to take a private plane. Couldn't do either of those, obviously, because he had COVID. He couldn't drive back to Phoenix. So he got an air ambulance. Apparently those are a thing.

He hopped in a helicopter? No, it was a plane, like an air ambulance plane. Hey, I want to let you know, AJ, you, you were attacking us for talking about, well, how does he get out of here? Everybody on earth knows he has COVID. He's not allowed to be around anybody. You remember we said we said that yeah so he got on a plane and he flew to phoenix he had to find a ambulance plane what is that probably a hundred thousand dollars to get that thing up in the sky hey hey great plane got him better golf yeah got him back

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Ladies and gentlemen, Super Bowl champion, Electric Factory, Fox football analyst, ladies and gentlemen, Mark Schleyer. Yeah, Steve! What's going on, dude? How are you guys, man? Great to be back. Hey, to both of you, happy Father's Day. I hope it was a fantastic day.

AJ was with a cult down in florida the ohio state cult raising money what did you do yesterday anything cool stink i uh you know i spent the day doing some landscaping i i did a uh i did a raised garden project so uh i did a raised flower bed around this tree that i've been uh with. I started it last year. I only did half of it. And my wife said, I'd like it to go the rest of the way around the tree. So something of that nature. I really wasn't listening to her.

So I did it. You know, I did it. And so I spent all day out in the yard yesterday. It was awesome. Happy Father's Day. Great dad move, by the way. Finishing a job that you started a year ago. That's great.

I mean, that's just classic. We're talking about Jon Rahm. I don't know if you got to see that or not. Just, what, one week after being eliminated from a golf tourney where he was in a lead by six strokes, has COVID, has to get an ambulance plane to fly him all by himself. I assume he had hazmat suits on. I assume there's hazmat suits on that thing.

Now he wins the U.S. Open. Did you get a chance to see it? What are your thoughts on old John Rahm? Yeah, I thought it was pretty amazing. It's really cool to have that happen to you. The juxtaposition of him being taken away from that tournament where he's just literally in tears. He's just so upset about it with the big lead that he had created in that tournament.

And then to come back here at the U.S. Open to be able to win that. just so upset about it with the big lead that he had uh that he had created in that tournament and then to come back here at the u.s open to be able to win that um absolutely amazing performance kind of one of those uh you know i don't know if you believe in the golf gods but it just feels like it was one of those karma things you know that uh that that's what happened and by the way the area i didn't even know such a thing existed is the the airplane ambulance right that you can get one of those yeah aj, AJ knew it existed. He just acted like it wasn't that big of a deal. Turns out he had a guy to play

of $700,000 to get that thing. I mean, it's unbelievable. Get out of Ohio! He was one of the only people in the entire world that everybody knew, oh, that guy's got COVID. Right there. That guy right there has COVID.

I mean, that guy lost $2 million and that guy has COVID. Get that guy the fuck away from me is what happened over there in Ohio. Happy he got home. Now he wins. I believe in the universal lot stink. I think we all do. Go ahead, AJ.

So I hate to pivot away from this, but I wanted to go back to you on Twitter and what you're doing. It's fun to watch, but what would it have been like if they had Twitter when you were playing? Would you have engaged with fans like this? No, I probably wouldn't have. And, you know, I just thought when I was playing, that was a business thing.

You know, for me, it's funny. I live next door to a coach who coaches in the league, and, you know, he's back from vacation. I don't know about you, but man, I was miserable cuss. I couldn't enjoy this six weeks that they have off or whatever. I couldn't enjoy that because all I could think about was, man, I'm going to go back to training camp. I'm going to beat the crap out of my body. It's not going to be great.

And so I could never really enjoy the time. So I just don't think I could engage like that on Twitter. And here's the one thing that I would have been fine with. You can say whatever you want about me. It really doesn't matter. You know, it's one of those things that your opinion of me doesn't – I couldn't care less. It doesn't affect me at all.

And so I actually kind of like reading some of the hate, you know, that I get towards on Twitter because I think it's funny. So I appreciate that aspect of it. But I was just so focused on what I was trying to do as a player that I just don't, I don't ever believe that I would have gotten too involved in that as a, you know, as a player.

Now it's, now it's just good, clean fun. When I'm, when I'm bored, I just get on there and start to, you know, try,

you know, just mixing it up with people. So I enjoy that part of it. Well, I, you know, I can understand that you can do hindsight and say you would have done this but I'll tell you what man when you were laying up doing rehab

or whatever at night and you had the entire world in your hand and that wasn't like that whenever you were playing I think you would have been fantastic on there as a player especially with your hatred for who is it Raiders I think the Raiders fans oh you would have been awesome on there but I understand that your mindset each year was like okay I gotta focus on this it's a job I gotta go to camp I you said something there that was fascinating to me at the beginning was there an excitement to get to training camp and then as you got older you hated it or was it always like okay training camp's gonna stink because there's some people I guess that you know there's some people that enjoy it early and then that kind of wears off year two year three

were you always like that offensive line has to be fucking miserable to think about right well it is i mean there's nothing that good can happen to you as an offensive lineman right i mean like if you if you block for a running back gets 250 yards uh rushing you know you're a tag line at the end of the statement like hey gotta think the big fellas up front and then you know but let's talk about me for a while you know but you give up one sack against the guy who's a much better athlete than you you give up one sack and you're a piece of crap and that guy goes to the pro bowl so nothing really good can happen to you as an offensive lineman so i've always i've always believed in that so you know most of us are are completely motivated out of fear of paranoia, you know, of not getting our job done, of making a mistake, of being singled out for holding or whatever the case may be.

So, yeah, it's you know, I love that. I love the camaraderie. I love the fact that you can bring five guys together from different parts of the country with different, you know, economic backgrounds, social backgrounds and all that stuff. country with different you know economic backgrounds social backgrounds and all that stuff and for you guys to be good all five of you have to be on the same page you got to be you got to be working together so that's that's one of the things i love um it's not the individual parts it's the individual parts as a whole that makes it great those are those are really good sets by the way i mean i'm telling you i I love the hands. The hands come right out. Right there. You got to have the guns pulled out of the holster. You got to be ready to roll.

Go ahead, AJ. Mark, I think we can get him to throw his hands. I think we can get a little feint. He's going to throw his hands. We can chop right back. I'm patient. You're coming to me. I got a spot I got to get to. Ain't that right, Stink? I got a spot I got to get to out here at tackle. You got to come to me, pal. The goal is back here. You got're coming to me. I got a spot I got to get to. Ain't that right, Stink? I got a spot I got to get to out here at tackle. You got to come to me, pal, okay?

The goal is back here. You got to come to me. I ain't going to you. Okay. I do have to tell you this, Pat. You know, it's imperative that you change up your sets. It's imperative that you understand the drops, the timing of the quarterback. Is it a five-step drop with a hitch?

Is it a five-step drop with no hitch? Can I up-kick on this five-step drop? I mean, how can I change the angle of my set, the depth of my set, all those things? You've got to be thinking about that stuff. You just can't keep doing the same thing over and over and over again. I like the set, but we've got to change it up occasionally. Just remember the

Titans offense, alright? We only run a couple plays, and we know them. We know them inside out. Nameless, faceless, just give it time. It's going to work. Go ahead, AJ. Sorry about that.

Stink, I was thinking of the great Kevin Green, and when you're talking about pass sets, what did you hate when you're trying to block somebody? Because Kevin Green always would start with the Cobra Strike, head and hands. He thought everything came from physicality. Was that the toughest thing to block? No, I want guys to run into me because that's what i was good at uh you know the guys that like run into me because you know i mean from a leverage

standpoint and technique standpoint and a hand strength standpoint and just a weight room strength standpoint so you run into me it's it's done the guys that gave me trouble are the guys that were almost gelatinous you know the guys that you can't get your hands on the guys that were almost gelatinous. You know, the guys that you can't get your hands on, the guys that, you know, never give you a, they always present this narrow silhouette. They never give you your chin, their chest. You can't grab onto their pads. Those are the guys that drove me nuts. You know, the guys that I had to be patient with, that I couldn't be aggressive with. So that was always the thing that was the most, just the most difficult for me to deal with. So that was always the thing that was the most difficult for me to deal with. I want you to just try to bull rush me.

I want you to be the Cobra Strike. Hit me in the head. I mean, I got nothing in there but a box of rocks. That's what I was hoping you would do. Rest in peace, by the way, to the legend, Kevin Green there. Did you say gelatinous? Yes, gelatinous.

Let's go ahead and put that on the ticker. Put that on the ticker. Here we get it on there. The toughest defensive lineman to block is a gelatinous one, says Mark Stink Schlereth. Like Zeke. Zeke? Yeah. What does gelatinous mean?

That just means like wary? Like what is... Well, you know, you've been eating jello before, you know? Oh, that's... You're trying to balance it on a spoon or whatever, you know, and it's jiggling all over the place. Yeah. I'm not saying the guy's got to be jiggly.

I'm just saying the guy's got to be, you know, he's got to be smooth. He's got to be – he's hard to get your hands on. That's me, too. I think I could have played either side of the line if I was much tougher, you know, and bigger and stronger. There's just a couple things that if I could just really piece it together, I think I could have been great in the trenches. I wish I could have had that brotherhood alongside you, Stink, honestly.

Yeah, I mean, that honestly is the best part of it. You know, I tell you, one of the things we used to do in my time in Denver, it was one of the funnest things we ever did. And it's funny, as I go around and consult with teams in the offseason, we just talk about how to connect and how to be relational. And one of the things we did was we would always shut down the meeting early on Friday. And our coach would just put a topic up on the board. And we would just discuss whatever that topic may be. And it was always interesting to get other people's

perspectives because you could disagree with perspective. But at the same point, you need to have respect for that person's opinion and where that opinion comes from. So just from a standpoint of being together, studying together, working together, and then understanding one another at a deeper level. It really, to me, it was one of the great things that we got to do in our championship runs here as a member of the Broncos. It's one of the things I enjoyed the most about playing is just being together and being sequestered in that room and being able to kind of have that connection with the guys

that you play with. A culture building is something that everybody's trying to do. And I think a football locker room does such a great job. Not everyone. Hey, there's some bad cultures. And I think all of us have probably gotten a chance to witness at least one somewhere where you're like, okay, these guys hate each other. This is just a purely business outfit here.

But then once you get into a locker room where it feels like everybody's kind of, you know, all in, that is a game changer. And it's something you can never let out of your building if you have you can never let it leave it's hard to get back you know what i mean stink yeah and it's got to be worked on every day it's got to be something that is that's worked on adhered to preached on a day-to-day basis you know one of the things i made the suggestion to a team uh I was talking to two weeks ago. And I'd be interested to get your perspectives on this because I played defense in college for three years. And then I kept getting injured and I ended up retiring from football and coming back my last year,

switching to the offensive side of the ball and playing offense and how how beneficial that was to me as a player because when I'd see things that were out of place as a defense you'd always be like well that dude shouldn't be there like something something smells right something's coming and one of the suggestions I made was hey you ought to do an install where you put the whole like today in training camp here's the morning install and we're going to run you know we're going to run drag slam we're going to run um and we're going to run hook curl and we're going to run you know uh our curl flat we're going to whatever we're going to run right we're going to put in a 19 handoff 18 and we're going to do all that and

you put it in you go out and practice it and then make all the reinstall in the afternoon make all the defensive players go to offensive meetings afternoon make all the defensive players go to offensive meetings and make all the offensive players go to defensive meetings they're gonna hate just so you can understand the different issues that everybody has and i think it would be not only would it be a blast to kind of get a different perspective but then to go out and try to execute that stuff as defensive linemen playing offense and offensive linemen playing defense i just think it would be kind of a fun exercise in trying to understand what other people go through and how difficult each job is hey that's an incredible idea hey great theory great theory

but you just said it those six weeks of off time you hated it because you knew training camp was around the corner could you imagine your fucking ass in the morning having to do offensive line stuff a full practice and then a follow-up meeting and then afterwards okay you're gonna go into the d-line you would have been so furious i mean i would have been i by the way if i was on that team oh my god here we go boys hey let's go another position by the way though i though, it's a good idea. In theory, it's a great idea. I would have liked to play a little D-line and have the D-line coach say, hey, you know, like key in all the defensive linemen,

as they always do, about what the snap count is. You know, like this is not helping your players, right? They'd be like, in inside, like when you're in team, all of a sudden you hear the D-line coach go, a run's called, he goes, hey guys, really be firm in there. Really, dude. Those guys don't know now we're running the ball. So I'd like to have that advantage on the other side. I respect it.

We're talking to Mark Schlaerth, obviously three-time Super Bowl champion, offensive lineman for the Denver Broncos. He's had John Elway's, this one's for John, John Elway's hands in his ass, getting footballs for a long time, a lot of success, legendary human. You talk about the culture there, and especially with your Denver Broncos history. Von Miller had to come out and talk about this because he's Von Miller.

He's one of the stars of your team. He's a full-blown superstar at this point. He was asked about the rumors at the quarterback position, and he had to give an answer representing the entire team and reality at the same time where he was like, I can't really get caught up in those because we got Drew Locke. Drew Locke's our guy. And I think he even said, like, you can hear about him,

you think about him a little bit, but we still still got drew and now we got teddy here as well how do you think that is for building a culture and if it's aaron rodgers i guess like you get aaron rodgers in your building and tom brady is going to be on lebron james uh barbershop talk show and i guess he actually told a team that was interested and backed off at the end or he thought to himself you're going to stick with that so i think there are a couple quarterbacks where it's like you take them over whatever. But when you're the Broncos, you have to hear that there's potentially

Aaron Rodgers coming to the team. How do you block that out, you think, Stink? And have they been able to do that? And how will this affect everything going forward, you think? Yeah, I mean, I think you always kind of, you always, as much as offense is about, you know, rhythm and everybody working together,

you're trying to make sure that you do your job. And if I do my job and everybody has that same attitude, we're going to be pretty good. I think from a blockout standpoint, it means Aaron freaking Rogers, right? If Aaron Rogers is here, this is an offense that's been scoring 17 and a5 points a game for the last four or five years. So, like, you know, there are issues. There are definite issues. And you look at some of the young talent that they have on the offensive side of the ball, and I think that's got to excite you. But, you know, we used to always say, hey, young guys and potential will get you fired.

I want guys that can play. So, you know, I mean, you've got to be able to kind of balance all that stuff play. You've got to be able to balance all that stuff out. You support your guys, but hell, we all know if Aaron Rodgers walks through the door, man, it changes your future. That guy is one of the three or four unicorns that you have in this league. I even think Drew Locke would be like, hey, Aaron Rodgers, great. Maybe what can I learn? I think so, too just – I even think Drew Locke would be like, hey, Aaron Rodgers, great. Yeah. Maybe what can I learn? I think so too.

Go ahead, Ty. Speaking of Rodgers stink, I think it was like maybe a week or two ago that Benjamin Albright in Denver reported that there was a good chance that Rodgers still wants to go there and that they're interested. Being from like around the team and everything, do you see that – like is that a real chance of actually happening or no oh i know i definitely think there's a real chance i mean you know i was like i was funny because the news today was does aaron rogers want to stay in green bay he

renewed his golf membership at the green bay country club i'm like like what's the golf tournament what's that called 2800 bucks i mean you know at the wisconsin country club in green bay i mean i know i don't like i have no idea but it can't be yeah it can't be it can't be breaking the bank or anything i wouldn't i wouldn't imagine it's green bay for crying out well that's what i just said yeah no offense green bay i hope they didn't take any but you're right i mean you can only go off what two months a year right three months a year so who knows how much it would be and when that story came up i found it very entertaining because i it's been an ongoing thing with aj over there

some of my fiscal uh decision making has come into question with old buddy over there i have numerous country club memberships around the country that are on auto pay because i wanted to golf one day and they forced me into signing up for an auto-pay two-year thing. So that is kind of – when I saw this Aaron thing last week, all you renews are saying, I'm like, I'm happy Aaron does the same thing I do. I'd like to golf today. How much do I got to pay? That's a long commitment.

You can get on right now, though. Take it. Fuck it. Deal. It's not good. It's not right, but I think that is potentially what that is. But that Aaron saga, it's almost at this point hard for me to even talk about until something happens.

But if he ends up at Denver, that'd be insane. You guys would be a really good team, right? I mean, that's a really good squad if he ends up there. I think defensively some of the adjustments they've made, some of the guys they've signed on the defensive side of the ball. You know, the way the league is really constructed defensively is different from when I was in the league where, you know, you the way the league is really constructed defensively is different from when i was in the league where you know you could play a lot of cover too you you

just roll up you say as long as we have a great front seven we're going to be okay you know and it was all about stopping the run now you're in sub package you know you're in dime you're in nickel you're in penny whatever you are i mean you're probably 65 70 of the time so i think most defenses like when i came into the league, they were built from the front back. I think most of the defenses now are built from the back forward. And if you don't have a great nickel guy, if you don't have a great dime guy, you're in trouble.

It's just the way it is. And if you don't have speed at the linebacker position, you're in trouble. So that's the way defenses are built. I think they have a pretty good, they've done that this offseason. Obviously, some of the talent they have on the offensive side of the ball is really good. Aaron Rodgers would help

obviously develop that talent, but he also helped that offensive line, the way he gets rid of the football and everything else. I think they've become instantly a playoff team from a 5-11 team that they were last year. Stink, we can't thank you enough for joining us, boss. We're going to move on to probably a dumber conversation,

and we don't want to take up any more of your time. We appreciate you so much, man. Anytime, man. Always a pleasure to be on with you guys. Thanks. Ladies and gentlemen, Mark Schlering. The gelatinous. Can't thank you enough for allowing us to penetrate your ear holes.

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And let's enjoy the hell out of this life thing. Hashtag Endapod Squad. And let's enjoy the hell out of this life. And then, by the way, after the break, football's right around the corner. Let's go. Let's live a little bit. Enjoy this Monday. Ty, please play some independent music and propel these people into a beautiful night. We'll be back, Mignogna, with another big episode.

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