The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 444 - Back From Vacation With Darius Butler, Ian Rapoport, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: July 5, 2021

On today's show, Pat and the boys are back from vacation and recap everything they did on their weeks off, catch up on all the stories they missed while they were off including the NCAA and Name Image and Likeness rule has been changed, how it's going to impact everything, and everything else going on in the world. Also joining the program for a couple of great conversations are 9 Year NFL veteran, Everything DB, host of the Man To Man podcast, and friend of the progrtam, Darius Butler (33:22-58:06), NFL Network Insider Ian Rapoport (1:12:53-1:24:48), and AJ Hawk for the remaining two hours of the show. Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow and listen every day on Mad Dog Radio, Sirius XM Channel 82. We appreciate you all for listening, come and laugh with us, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Good afternoon, beautiful people. It is Monday, July 5th, 2021, years after zero, and we are back, baby! Yeah! That's right, I hope everybody's fantastic. I hope you had a great Fourth of July. Happy Independence Day to everybody. Celebrate, you know, the fact that we told the Brits to scram, nerd!

Celebrate, you know, the fact that we told the Brits to scram, nerd! And then we got a chance to celebrate that for the last 245 years. You know, hey, here we go now. We're an independent country. We'll tell the Brits to go fuck themselves. See you later, you know. And then it's celebrated. And there were definitely not all the ideals were followed whenever this country has we are nowhere near perfect i think we're working there but anytime you can celebrate something

you're going to celebrate something and on fourth of july everybody knows that when you celebrate you do a couple different things okay you're gonna see fireworks out there somewhere absolutely i want to see them boom boom bob cavoyan Host of Bob and Tom show Him and his wife Becky put on a firework spectacle In the neighborhood that I live in Last night 35 minutes 15 minute grand finale Wow

That was the best My dogs thought there was a potential fucking Baghdad going on But it was unbelievable So you know you're going to do fireworks You're going to eat a hot dog at some point Maybe a burger, maybe a pool Maybe a brew or two It was unbelievable. So, you know, you're going to do fireworks. You're going to eat a hot dog at some point. Okay, you're going to eat maybe a burger, maybe a pool, maybe a brew or two, a little festive time. Maybe some vitamins or whatever.

You know, like everything like that. And you're also going to watch, all right, a guy who now lives in Indiana, calls Indiana his home, Indianapolis his home. You're going to watch a guy shove 70-plus dogs and buns into his gullet. Okay? You're going to watch that at noon. Last year, no fans. What are we doing? This year, back to Coney Island or wherever the fuck it is.

We're in a baseball field. All right? We got Golic Jr. Golic Sr., by the way, was not happy with my response to Sha'Carri Richardson's ban and thing. I mean, not happy, but he had a differing opinion, and he responded like everybody, by the way. I've seen him on my Twitter thing more than anybody else. I'm like, hey, Mr. Golik, good to see you.

Have invited him on the show before. I don't think he got back to me, but I would like to have him on and have a conversation with that thing. But Golik Jr. was the president of Major League Eating, which we definitely knew was a fucking thing. Oh, yeah. MLE. Oh, yeah. MLE.

We definitely knew that. And then, you know, old Fitz. Oh, yeah. Fitz Simmons. Fitz. Fitz Simmons on there. I love good guy. He's out there.

He's doing his thing. The most electrifying human on earth is on a microphone. And Mr. Shea, Dave, Dave, George, George, George, George, George, there it is. That guy's fucking unbelievable. His introductions to every single eater yesterday were magnificent. Each one seemed to top the previous one. In the first one he gave, he introduced a guy who was wearing like an octopus head thing, and he gave an entire promo cut on this guy, kind of being buried under the ocean, eating

his way through popcorn to become this. It was unbelievable. You watch this every year, though. You say, hey, here's a good American tradition. They actually hype it up as such. Hey, Joey Chestnut, the hero, the legend, the icon, the Indianapolis native now. How are you doing? The whole world starts the 4th of, not the whole world, obviously, because it's America holiday.

That was me being the American student I am, by the way. The whole world. England probably doesn't celebrate it. I understand there's probably another. Canada, you could have, by the way. England probably doesn't celebrate it. I understand there's probably another Canada. You could have, by the way. They just said, nah. Nah. No thanks.

There was no line or nothing, by the way. None. We like taxes. We have no idea. Do any of us know why Canada did not just join? How did that happen? It's the same Canadian Independence Day. Yeah, but what are you independent from?

You guys are still. I still answer to the Queen. I'm here now. That's all that matters. No, congrats to that, by the way. We're painting ships to private trips. The story of Bubba Dundino on his whole thing there. But anyways, you celebrate 4th of July by watching this.

Yesterday, these rat bastards, okay? And I assume they're working Their asses off over there They've had a long week ESPN had a ESPN had a Maybe the toughest day in their existence Not 100% sure

But we'll talk by the way about what you Wanted to talk about I just want to ask How do you not have connection for fucking Joey Chestnut eating 76 hot dogs in 10 minutes? How do you not have a connection on that guy? After everything we've been through, after everything the world

has been tossing at all of us, we don't even get a chance to see something, somebody, that I watched chug 13 pints of beer in 72 seconds. We don't even get to watch this guy break his own world record. He's going to be sick.

This guy commits his entire life to this and with what? Six seconds, seven seconds, 16 seconds left in this 10 minute thing where they were having problems throughout the entire time. And they had the ticker at the bottom in 4K so we knew. Okay, so it's not us.

Because if that thing freezes at home, you think to yourself, oh, maybe it's my fucking internet again. You think about getting a ladder to go up there and hit the whole thing. The ticker was clear as day, so it's like, no, this is these motherfuckers. It's on you guys.

We couldn't see it. They froze up. Obviously, it's a nightmare, un-American situation, but Joey Chestnut wins. We watch fireworks. We do our thing. And today, we couldn't wait to get back onto the microphones. Boys,

I miss talking to you. People watching, I want to let you know, I miss this immensely. I had a hell of a time with my wife on a private island. Okay? It was unbelievable. This is Lifestyles of Richard Famous. I just, I got to experience it there for a second. There's a

chef there. This son of a bitch didn't even have a menu. Okay? Whoa. It's ever-changing, ever-evolving. So my wife told me no information about where we were going. There's no TVs on the island. I was going to say. As soon as I got there, I learned there's no TVs on it. Still has internet, by the way, which I found very nice. It was actually pretty

nice. And there was no real live games going on. I mean, basketball was happening, which I found very nice. It was actually pretty nice. And there was no real live games. I mean, basketball was happening, but I could see that on that entire thing. There's no TVs on the entire island. And also, there's no menu. Yeah, the chef just kind of decides what he's going to serve. Oh, nice. He knows when you're hungry. So I said, Sam, what the fuck are we doing?

That's wild. What are we doing? There's no TVs here, and the chef just kind of picks and chooses. What the fuck? This, so listen, Sam. All right, I love you, okay? You know me, I think, at this point. This is everything that I hate, isn't it?

I mean, we're at a place that has no TVs, okay, and a chef that is so fucking conceited, okay, that he just thinks he can just willy-nilly on a menu whatever he wants and I just have to, you just think I'm gonna like it? I'm gonna love it. Sam was like, I didn't want to tell you before we got here because I know you would have made a big scene. Let's just see how it goes. She was like, let's just see how this goes. I'm like, okay, sounds good. So,

I'll tell you what, the reason why that chef is so fucking conceited, that son of a bitch can cook. It's like you're living at a guy's house. Was it a guy? Yeah, that son of a bitch can cook. Hey, it was fantastic. It's like you're living at a guy's house. Was it Guy? Yeah, it was definitely Guy. Guy Fieri?

Was it Guy? Oh, no. I don't think Guy Fieri was... Was it some gangster donkey sauce on the burger? It did. Maybe Guy was back there. Maybe.

Maybe a disciple of Guy. That's his MO. I sent seven compliments to the chef, okay, by people that were bringing the food to our bungalows that was happening. So it's like this perfect set up. I mean, it was the best. My wife absolutely crushed it with this.

I'm not going to say a name of a place because I don't want to fucking ruin it. Sorry, don't want to blow it up. But it is in America. It is unbelievable. This chef, though, every night, they just print out what you're eating, basically. Okay, so you had no idea beforehand. It was kind of get ready. There was a couple regulars. Caesar salad was only on there one night, eating, basically. Okay, so you had no idea beforehand. It was kind of, get ready. There was a couple regulars.

Caesar salad was only on there one night, by the way. Oh, really? Yeah, so there was a couple things that were regular during the day. You can get a drink, you can get a food or whatever. But most of the food, like, hey, you get a piece of paper, like, this is what we're serving tonight. You actually have to call down if you want it or go down and get it or whatever.

And I would just stare at shit that I would never in a million fucking years ever serve. And then showed up and i was like this guy delicious compliments to the chef they're like he says thank you i was like does he really does he know how much i love this guy uh they're like he he's very private so like i don't they wouldn't nobody would let me like i wanted to meet there and be like yo what the fuck are you doing like this is he might have the greatest gig of all time anyways i was very lucky to have a great trip. But my trip pales in comparison to a man who is now a very different person. A man whose costume is now forever changed.

A man who kneeled in the same pew as George fucking Washington. The president? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. George? Same church, same pew. Ladies and gentlemen, now a married man, Ty Schmuck. Thank you, guys.

Thank you very much. It was a lot of fun. I'm glad you guys got to come out there. Not everyone's met all my brothers and my family. And we've been talking about it for, for so long, you know, so I'm,

I'm glad it's over. I mean, it was awesome. We went on our honeymoon right after, which was great. And like you said, like being able to just disconnect, like I really,

you know, we don't ever get to do that. So it is kind of, it was nice. Our job, by the way, is nowhere near as hard as anybody out there we understand that but part of the job is you have to be like super duper

connected and it was and by connected it means like oh just kind of having a little bit of a radar of what the fuck's going on and by the way last week while i was on an island and ty was doing his thing a lot of shit happened i didn't find out till later it was actually kind of nice it was if we had to talk about it during the day we'd have been fucked would have been fucked completely have to know but it was kind of nice to deconnect for a little bit and i'm sorry but i i wanted to hit on that play it was really fucking nice yeah it was amazing too the resort uh we went to was great you know top notch uh tyler johnson who we played golf with down in the Bahamas. I checked in. He was like the first person I saw there. It was wild.

I was like, you know, it was crazy. And I was like, yeah, exactly. The same guy. You remember him? Yeah. You remember him? Yeah. Yes.

From Miami. He had the tats. Light skinned dude. Yeah, yeah. Yes, he is. Plays for the Brooklyn Nets now. Hey, super cool dude. Yeah, very cool.

Yeah, yeah. And I was thinking about, you know, but I was like, eh, I'm not going to do it. But anyway, yeah, it was great. I had a good time. Hey, by the way And I was thinking about it, but I was like, eh, I'm not going to do it. But anyway, yeah, it was great. Hey, by the way, I was the drunk guy with Matt Fee there. Yeah, exactly. I probably rear-ended the cart a couple times. Yeah. No, but it was – I mean, it feels good to be back because it was just like a lot of stress and everything.

And I think that is something that I was not prepared for at all. I thought I was going to be fine and everything everything and i was just like a ball of nerves nervous energy the entire time but i'll tell you what i don't feel much different but it is it is good to be back with you guys i missed you guys your wedding your wedding was awesome a lot of a few of us got a chance to go which was beautiful newport rh Rhode Island will be a conversation we'll have off air. I mean, it's nice, isn't it? Wonderful place. Wait, wait, wait.

Actually, what are you alluding to? Are you alluding to the greatness of Newport? So that's a place where you guys went as kids, so it holds like super memory. It's like Disney for people. Is that what it is? Sort of, sort of, yeah. It's up there in the upper echelon of places to go on the coast.

As a child, right? Yeah, my wife grew up like 20 minutes from there, so she went there as a kid all the time with her family and everything. So we were always going to get married there. That place was packed. I mean, it was. I mean, I probably haven't been there as many times as Connor has, but I've never seen it like that. It was beautiful. Hey, it was cool views. I got a chance to stay at a really cool place, but that is not a place I would frequent.

Hey, let's go to Newport. That seemed like a lot. It was like a fucking amusement park almost for like two, three, four, five blocks. It was just, there's stores everywhere. There's great food. Hey, there was great, good people, by the way. Got a chance to chat with a lot of people,

but it was nothing like what I thought it was going to be. And staring out at the ocean is fascinating, too. I saw some... What's that shit? Sailors. I saw the Olympian sailors. They do the...

Not the crew, like the actual boats? Yeah, they do the... Are they sailors? It's like a regatta. Yeah, you gotta regatta's like a regatta. Yeah, you got a regatta. You got a regatta. You got a regatta. But yeah, I saw them training in the morning when I woke up after your wedding.

I looked outside. There was like a gloom and doom over the Atlantic Ocean. And the wind was blowing. And the sails, the things were like slapping. And I was like, God damn, this is such a different world than I grew up in or whatever. Then in tights, it was like a movie. Trotting in there, Team USA carrying this goddamn almost metal ladder thing. That got tossed out in their sailor.

It was crazy. But I want to let you know, wedding was awesome. Reception was cool. Food was great. We appreciate you. That was good hospitality you guys did well yeah i mean like i said you know i i would have never imagined i was going to get married there either but george fucking washington's church yeah yeah the number one yeah

it's like the oldest church in america it is the oldest church in america so ty obviously you didn't know this because you were dealing yeah that's the's the guy that prayed there. Holy shit. Hey, I want to let you know, the God shit that's in that guy's brain, all right, we learned where it came from. Yeah. And Ty got married in the same pew that that guy he was learning. Hey, Ty. Attaboy, Ty. Osmosis.

Osmosis. His teeth was in the pew. Yeah, they made the pew out of his wooden teeth. There were human remains buried under some of the pews, yeah. It was slightly disturbing. So that's what I was going to say while you were stressed out about Do Your Thing. We showed up a little late. We were the last ones, literally the last people in the entire thing.

Whose fault was that, Pat? Excuse me? What was that? Whose fault was that? Well, I don't like to point fingers, but I know the fingers aren't pointing at me. Okay. My wife. We ended a little late.

We ended a little late. We only had one shower. It was actually probably my fault because I, there was just an entire thing, but we got there perfect time. I mean, right on. It was definitely our fault. Never a doubt. Phil picked, I did. I had some, because I knew weddings don't, like, hey, this ain't something that just kind of like ah dilly dally around especially at the oldest like wedding started

a certain time so we land our flight got delayed we couldn't even fly in because of the fog which by the way scary as shit it looked like we're walking into sleepy hollow oh yeah you know that uh headless horseman thing that you were as a kid you like it felt like we were driving into that you go over this bridge and then the fog was just so strong. Couldn't see the end of the bridge at all. Newport's on the other side. It was crazy, but our plane got delayed. We got to get, it was, we got there right on time.

But the church, a little bit late, actually. But the church, nah, right on time. Yeah, you're right there. I mean, the priest didn't take his five-minute set, didn't start yet. Oh, that guy was an absolute comedian. That guy was a weapon. Genius. That guy was a weapon.

He did have a couple good jokes that I was not prepared for. Hey, and by the way, I did not. Lighten me up a little bit. We did not miss any of those, by the way. No. And I like the fact that he complimented the verses you guys chose. You could have taken the blah, blah, blah, but you actually decided for the insert Colletian's Cross. It's this.

So it was a good little banter there. These churches, is this normal? Diggs, I'll ask you. We were sitting in boxes, like tiny little boxes. There were penalty boxes. They were stacked next. So instead of like a pew that goes straight across, there were little penalty boxes, and you had to open a door to get in and out of them and it was like two per

box and they were stacked from the front of the church all the way to the back too wide on the right too wide on the left deep good air conditioning so they definitely upgraded old george's church a couple times too but it's like you're in an old wooden roller coaster? Yes, bingo. That's exactly what we were in. But much great metaphor description for that. With Kenny Wood's to my mind. Hey, the racers down there.

It was very comfortable, though. Very comfortable seat, the whole thing. It was hard not to read all the things that were around, though, because the memorial that was next to me Was a family that started going to church There in 1720 Oh good family

Maybe Could have been a really bad family We have no idea Learned that on the internet yesterday A lot of that At Boston Corner Ty Hey, Ty, very proud of you, Ben. Thank you. Thank you very much. Thank you for coming.

I'm glad you guys got to be there. And by the way, thank you everybody for your well wishes to us last week and also to Ty. I saw a lot of those at Boston Corner. What did you do? Did you stay up there all week? Oh, yeah. I just stayed up there, just hung around with the same, you know, schlubs I grew up with. Just, you know, hammering Coors Lights at like 1030.

I was hanging out with the liberator. A.M.? P.M.? A.M. I was hanging out with the liberator of Kuwait, Bud Cody. Got to catch up, hear a bunch of war stories with him. It was an incredible time. But I actually did find something out. I got a bone to pick with actually all of you.

I'm suffering from male pattern baldness, and none of you let me know I got a massive bald spot on the back of my head. We got the stuff, all right, Roman? Yeah, we got the stuff, but we need to spread awareness. You got to let people know when you see things. Oh, dude. Oh, you in the back, too. How did you find out?

How did I find out? I walked by a mirror and looked in the corner of my eye and saw like a massive bald spot. You had to take a bunch of selfies in the mirror. Looks like a gosh darn cloud. All right, listen. Hey, that isn't. You looked amazing at the wedding. Thank you.

Okay, maybe my favorite human view I've ever seen in my life, to be honest. One of my favorite outfits and get togethers that I've ever been a part of as well. I mean that is the dress up you right? That's dress up you now? 100%. Yeah you looked unbelievable you glued your hair down I mean it was. That thing was

I could have rode a motorcycle to the wedding and my hair wasn't moving. Is that why it looked like you actually did ride a motorcycle? You did. Funny you say moving. Is that why it looked like you actually did ride a boat spot? You did. Funny you say that. Is that why, though, you think maybe you saw the boat spot? Is it because you had hair glued into different places? So that actually, I didn't even know at that point.

At that point in the vacation, I didn't know. It was around like Tuesday, Wednesday. I'm hopping out of the shower, and I'm like feeling great about myself. And then all of a sudden, boom. Good news. Right there. Good news. What's that?

Roman's got you. Yeah, they do. Send those drops right now, Bruce. I think you're in a majority, like 66% of men experience some sort of hair loss. Now, granted, the front did look a little thin. I've seen that, though. Anytime you pull, yeah, because mine's starting to get a little thin. Anytime you pull it straight back, that's going to happen.

You're basically trying to rip that thing off of the ledge that it's hanging onto. Whenever you pull it back. So that's not a big deal. But Roman's got you, dude. You're in the majority of people that it happens to. You look like you just won the championship for the Mass State Police softball bureau. I had 80 homers in one season. But I know Roman's got me.

I just think that we need to spread awareness that people who are going through it, when you see it, identify it. I saw it at the wedding. I wasn't going to burst your bubble. See, that's what I mean. There's a time and a place. You're not going to burst your bubble at a wedding, Connor. I mean, it looked incredible.

The gel might have set you up for a little bit of failure. A little bit of show. So true, yeah. Well, apparently not, though, because he saw it without it, and he said it's still there. But Roman got your back. Thank you, Roman. Gumpy, how was your week?

Good week? You were at every Boston Red Sox game that happened, right? 5-0 all week long. Hey, Gumpy. Good job. Good job, baby. It's been 10 years since I've been to Boston, so once I got there, I just ended up staying the whole week.

Now, Boston, beautiful city, right? Oh, yeah. Awesome. Probably the best. I think Nick back there even sent me a text and said, hey, this is a beautiful city. Did not expect it to be that nice for a place that's full of so many scumbags. It was incredible how nice the city was. That's, I mean, but think about it.

There are so many scumbags, and the place is still unbelievable. So when you think about how incredible that is in itself, I think everybody should go to Boston at least once a year. Boston has some superpower to be able to withstand the force of scum. All the dirtbags, yes. To be able to withstand the scum that seeps out of the streets of Boston and to still be that beautiful. I mean, that's, you know, one in a million.

No city can do that. I don't think I've ever spent any real time in Boston. I feel like I've been, you know, I've been here everywhere. I really do because I say yes to a lot of things. And I regret them almost always, but at least you get a little tail. I don't think I've ever spent any time in Boston, ever. Foxy and I went to that Gillette Stadium that Gillette Stadium I think it was

for DK at the time they had a gathering and I chugged 30 everybody was awesome I mean everybody 30 beers talked to Gronk we got to see Patriot Place there because that's where we kind of checked in I think we came day of checked into a hotel went to the thing went back to the hotel flew out

so I haven't seen it, but everything I've seen has been awesome. Much better reaction from crew in the back there than Newport, Rhode Island did, I will say. I will say much better reaction to Boston than Newport, Rhode Island. Newport's

unbelievable. It's just when the sun's not out, it's tough to really get the whole feel of it with the sailors to your point Boston was beautiful from day one I mean, granted it was 110 degrees Hey, we had to outrun A tropical storm down there in Florida There's one there, T's and P's

Hey, Jake, good luck down there Good luck, Jake Hey, Rolando, good luck down there Good luck, Rolando Hey, Rolando gave me the keys to a Boston Whaler. Ooh. Those things move. They don't, actually.

It makes a lot of sound, though. Trying to plug it, you know, because it did have a plug in the back, which I guess most boats do in the keys because there's a chance water's going to get in with the way you're moving or whatever. So I did elect to plug the hole in the boat while we're going into water turns out that didn't matter our biggest issue was going to be moving you know i had that thing on full rabbit mode i don't know the gas motor all the way up there that thing just like a cobra it sat up like this and it was going hell yeah and i was moving out maybe a knot or two. Maybe a knot or two.

And there were seaplanes landing in the same place that I was trying to get across. I was playing Frogger with massive, there was a cigarette boat, I think, at one point. Wow. Came flying by. Because down there in the Keys, I mean, that's how people go island hopping. That's actually what they do. So the boat community is a strong one. And I'm on that whaler with obviously samantha and we're

almost getting run into the fucking gulf dude it was it was a wild time out there but the water when it's beautiful it's so nice up there in rhode island i didn't think it was ever going to be sunny up there i looked out and it looked like every movie i'd ever seen from up there it was why it was a it was a wild wild Ty, have you ever been up there before? Yeah, I've been there a couple times. And to Connor's point, when it is really nice. It was very nice on Thursday. And then it was kind of just overcast the rest of the weekend.

But when it is really nice, I mean, it's the same thing. You go to one of those places and get dinner on the water. I mean, it looks incredible. But, you know, what are you going to do? Diggs, I saw you living that lake life. You going to move in there? I think I am. Yeah. I love it. I mean, we looks incredible. Yeah. What are you going to do? Diggs, I saw you living that lake life. You going to move in there? I think I am. Yeah.

I love it. I mean, we live the river life. Crick. Crick life for a long time. Crick life, river life. I think the next step, it is lake life. It's a definitely cleaner experience than living the dead body river life and crick life that we grew up on. Pittsburgh, by the way.

Yeah, we have a lot of dead bodies. There was actually, I rented a boat back in pittsburgh for us one weekend and uh captain of the boat forget his name whatever his name was so we were not allowed to get off the boat and get in the water uh like most cities do because they pulled a dead body out of the water the morning of us sure in this one particular spot so we don't know if there's any other bodies there's also a dead rat next to the boat that was the size of a moose. Hey, did you see that wolverine over there in Utah? No.

It was on the news. What? There was a wolverine that ran through somebody's first yard or front yard over there. That was the size of the rat. You see that? That was the size of the rat in the thing. But yeah, the lake life, you loved it. Did you get out there?

You got jet skis? Yeah, spent half the week in Pittsburgh, half the week in the lake, got jet skis. They have a jet ski and a pontoon, so that's good life. Wow. Not bad. Good for you. All right. Let's start talking about some sports now. Foxy, Zito, Jay, everybody back there.

Appreciate you guys. Great to see you. Let's get into some stuff. Darius Butler will be joining us in about two minutes. Ian Rappaport will join us next hour. Here we go. Then, A.J. Hawk, obviously, will join us next hour. Cannot wait to chat with him. And maybe a surprise guest today.

Whoa. Surprise guest. Maybe. I don't know. To be honest, I do not know. Would be big. Okay. All right.

So it would be a surprise. I mean, it would. Is it a surprise? What do you mean by that? It would be a surprise. I mean, it would. Is it a surprise? What do you mean by that? It would be a surprise, yeah. Well, maybe not a surprise. We're not sure if it's happening or not. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Oh, yeah. Very much not so much sure. Yeah, yeah. Sent a prayer out this morning. Okay. Has not been responded. But we'll see, because there was an interaction last week that potentially led to,

you know, I just don't know. But anyways, today's show is going to be good. 1-833-4-MACIFI. We will answer some phone calls. There's a lot in the sports world to get to and that we missed. So I've been trying to balance in my head, how far back should we go to give a fuck?

You know what I mean? Like, who cares? What should we talk about? And there has to be a couple things right off the jump. Name image like this. Okay? So congrats to the college athletes and high

school athletes and new school athletes. And goddammit, those elementary kids are good. Congrats. I've seen six-year-olds. You know, T.Y. Hilton's kid would have been getting a Nike sponsorship probably when he was eight or nine and flagged football. But congrats to the amateurism rule no longer being a thing. Now, the schools.

Hey, shout out. Shout out. Shout out. Darrell Jollo. You know, interesting photo choice. You know, I don't fully know how to describe it. Me and Jollo were friends.

We were tight. This moment I don't think came, you know, as naturally as many people. It's a great celebration. We were happy though. Champions. We were champions. But I'm pumped for the name image likeness rule to get in there. Because guys, if they can make money, they can make money. Now, they should be able to make money off of their names.

They were born with their names. I granted the school does make them more popular with their football program or basketball or volleyball or soccer, whatever it is. And the TV rights help make them a star. But their name is their name. If they can get paid from that, they should be allowed to do so. If it's coming from outside sources, and you don't have to deal with figuring out how the school pays who, right?

Because that was always the thing. Well, how would they determine who gets paid? The school's going to pay people? Well, who are they paying? Only the people. It's like, all right, well, fuck the school figuring it out. At least let capitalism figure it out with the person's name that they've been,

you know, kind of born with. Definitely not all. I guess there is name changes. OK, I've seen a couple of those, but they should be able to profit off their name. So this happening is a huge deal for all of us that were ever, you know, potentially collegiate athletes or got to ride the coattails of other people and saw their success immediately lead to everybody else getting millions and millions and millions of dollars, including the school. Pat White, Steve Slayton, Noel Devine, Adam in there, Owen Schmidt. There's an entire crew there at WVU. But our freshman year versus our senior year with everything. Not just the football locker rooms, the stadiums. I'm talking full campus.

The entire campus was renovated, basically. Now, was that because of West Virginia donors? Maybe, probably. I'm not sure. But is the rise in attendance and the price that you can charge and the amount of commercial and everything that West Virginia was getting in the partying. and the price that you can charge and the amount of commercial and everything that West Virginia was getting. And the partying.

People heard about our partying on ESPN about whenever we win, oh, there's going to be couches that are burned, which, by the way, attracts a certain group of people. And, by the way, those people want to go to college and do that type of stuff. West Virginia got uber, uber popular. And now Major Harris is getting his number retired. Congrats to the Mitch. He was a stud. You know, I think Pat has said that he but I watched Pat White and Steve Slayton completely flip West Virginia. Just completely

flipped the whole place. Now there was other players, great players that were on our team. I was very lucky to be teammates with all of them. But Steve, he gets drafted. He does well, makes some money, fizzles out though, right? From injury. The guy got hurt, fizzles out. Pat, right, from injury. The guy got hurt, fizzles out. Pat White, decade ahead of his time probably. He gets hurt as well, has to go play. Made money. These guys made money.

But the amount of money that these two guys missed out on while they were at college because the NCAA kept relying on this amateurism word that they made up, I have always found to be profoundly bullshit. Like, me personally. Now, I might always found to be profoundly bullshit. Like I, me personally. Now, I might have a different view than everybody else, but I think Pat and Steve, if they wanted to go sell some cars for some people or do anything like that because of how big they were. And now granted, if WVU wants to get a percentage of that cool or sign some autographs or do whatever, I just, I always thought that was something that happened.

So that, but boy, this is going to get crazy out here. Yeah. This is going to get insane now and every you know action has an equal and opposite reaction i think the reaction to the nil is there has been a lot of very excited people people trying to do business in the nil for these athletes that probably have no idea about how digital marketing business goes maybe Maybe, maybe you do. You weren't allowed to, I guess, to really be a part of the conversations. But I assume this is a whole new world, not only for a lot of people, but these athletes.

So there's a lot of people that are like, hey, we'll help you with this. We'll help you with this. We'll help you with this. We'll help you with this. We got agencies on top of agencies all of a sudden for a lot of these student athletes. And I, you know, my first thought, and I put the tweet out as soon as I had heard about this, was I'm going to make a for the brand team,

was my first thought. But then I started thinking about it actually. And how, so how is this going to work? So if you were to become an agency, you've got to represent these people, you've got to sell these people, you've got to make deals for these people, you've got to tell them what to do,

you've got to do everything like that. what happens if this doesn't work out or anything like that like for me i am not talented enough to figure that all i think there are people that'll do well by these athletes and there's numerous i saw barstool signed a lot of people they are you know they're the people that are laying blueprints in this digital marketing business i don't know how it's going to work out there but i think if anybody can succeed it's them i think there's other people that'll be able to figure it out but for me i don't know how it's going to work out there, but I think if anybody can succeed, it's them. I think there's other people that'll be able to figure it out. But for me, I don't think I could figure it out,

but I think I've gotten around it. I think I am going to participate in the NIL. But I'm going to be, we're going to be Santa Claus in the game. You know what I mean? We're going to be Santa Claus in the game whenever we show up. Happiness is here. It's not going to be like doctors or anything like that.

Whenever you only go in with something bad or a dentist with something bad. We are showing up whenever. I think. This is just a very complicated game. It's only getting even more crazier whenever you see like Hersey, Masterpiece Kid, sign a $2 million deal to a company that none of us have heard about. Okay? None of us have absolutely heard about Web Apps America. But Hersey Miller, son of Percy Miller, Master P, gets a $2 million deal the day it happens for this tech company.

We can assume that this tech company just wants to go all in. Okay, this is stuff that happens. In this venture capitalist world that we're in, there's a lot of money that gets dumped into companies that are startups. 90% of that money goes into marketing. 10% of it goes into the actual product. If it catches on, okay, then we'll have to start paying and creating everything. But let's just see. And if it doesn't, we'll just move along.

Or maybe, just maybe, there's a chance that somebody could see this type of thing happen, never knew that the company existed. And other schools can just start a company real quick, get a booster to fund some money and say, hey hey you're going to be our lead spokesman for this company who gives a fuck.com and uh you're going to be our that's see this is what happens though everything happens and then there's an there's an abuse that happens and then it gets crazy but as long as guys are making money that's all i really give a fuck about joining us now is

a former uh student athlete himself. He had to sit through all the bullshit NCAA meetings that I had to sit through, and I think he probably hated them maybe just as much as me or more than I did, but that's just the way it goes. Host of the Man to Man podcast, and I think he's about to do something more.

I mean, I don't want to. I think there's a lot of big shit coming, and I'm very happy for him. Nine-year NFL vet, ladies and gentlemen, Darius Butler. Glad to see you guys back, man. It's been too damn long. Hey, Deebo, we agree. And that Friday, that first Friday where we just did SmackDown and flew up to Rhode Island and took off.

It was like 10 days ago. We were all super bummed. That's our Darius Butler time. Hey, we missed you, buddy. I want to let you know we have missed you. Missed you guys too, man. Feeling the same. Feeling mutual.

All right, let's talk about this NIL thing. All right, you saw Hersey sign for 2MIL on the Web Apps America thing, which none of us have heard about ever in a million years. Nope. What's that? I mean, I love it. Sounds good. You know, looks good.

You know, I don't know. I don't want to be that guy with the negative dance. Do it. Do it. Hey, I'm here. Sometimes you hear some of this shit and it's like, ah, really? Yeah. You got to look into it.

You know, and I follow a bunch of nerds on Twitter, and they're like, oh, it's only six employees at the company. It's only, oh, hey, the website's not secure. It's a tech company. So it's like, I hope he sees every bit of that $2 million. I think I heard Masterpiece speak on it briefly. He said it's a four-year deal. So we see how it works out. Like you said, sometimes it could be who knows who cutting that check,

and maybe they just want it. Because now a lot of people know who this company is. A lot of people now have heard about it. So we'll see. I hope it comes out to be true. But, you know, it's a little fishy right now. Okay, so let's say that one's real. We won't be the negative people.

Let's say Web Apps America is real. Let's go, Web Apps. Let's go. Hey, give Hersey his fucking money. All right. Or let's look at it as somebody who could, these people could do this. Okay, I'm not saying, I'm not saying that they are doing this with Web Apps America. I'm saying if I'm a college football coach and, or a college basketball coach or any college coach that is wildly competitive and will bend.

Oh, no. What? What happened? Bend any rule that McDonald's bend. Oh, no. What? What happened? Bend any rule of McDonald's bag. Where'd it go? That just happened. Like last year, a guy from Tennessee puts a McDonald's bag. Hey, you want some extra cheese?

Oh, yeah. $40,000 or $20,000. But these coaches, if they can find a way around, okay, if there happens to be a little bit of a loophole, like in their eyes, even if it's not a Web Apps America loophole, I mean, could they not, and this is, we probably shouldn't bring this to light, but

it's probably going to happen. People could probably just create fake. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. And just do the ha ha. It's going to be wild, man. It's going to be wild. We fuck up everything though, don't we? We have to fuck up everything. I mean, but it's going to be some bad.

It's going to be some good. I'm glad the guys are getting paid, though. It's been a long time coming. I do think all of these money, all of the resources that have gone into compliance offices and all these bullshit charges from people in the past, I hope those same resources should now go into something that can somewhat protect some of these athletes. And even, we were talking about it on the show with Amanda Mayer,

with AB, and saying maybe even if it's just like kind of a blueprint of certain contracts, like, all right, we got this type of contract, this type, we got four different contracts. And these are the contracts that these businesses have to sign to deal with our athletes. And then you know that the athletes aren't getting fucked over and signing off perpetually. The same deal as you see in the entertainment industry

when somebody's just trying to get on, and then they're fucked for the rest of their career, and the executives are living good for the rest of their life. So I hope there's some protection. It's going to be wild. It's been a wild, wild west, honestly. But now you're just kind of going to everybody handing the bucket yeah i think behind the scenes and you might know more than i do i think it has been the wild wild west in certain places

you know like there's some places that are just you know they seem to do better than ever now i am not implying that anybody that is successful but it seems like there are some things that happen behind closed doors but i'm implying it. You alluded to it. Come on, man. We know how this thing goes. On any level, damn near any industry, the biggest winners are doing the most bullshit behind the scenes. That's just how it goes. You know, it's been the amateurs weren't getting paid, but it's still, I mean, you're still raking in billions of dollars.

You know, it's a lot of bullshit going on. So it is what it is. You know, it's a lot of bullshit going on. So, um, it is what it is, you know, it's part, it's part of the game. Okay. So let's get, I want to get back to your point though, about musicians, because this is a massive ordeal over there. And also this is why, and this is gonna, you know, sound maybe soft to me or whatever. I don't want like the thought of the name image likeness is the same thought as like signing another show or somebody on here like the way those deals are created and made it's like very fascinating you know and you hear a lot of chatter i mean prince started this conversation what a long long time ago and i assume before prince other people had that conversation where they're talking about basically all of our creativity and artistic ability is sucked and drained and used, decided when it can be used.

And then we make like two or three percent off of that forever. And somebody else is making like 60, 30, 20, 10 and whatever this whole thing. So I fear just like you do that just like that can happen in the music industry, this could easily happen for some of these guys. And there are a lot of businesses in this particular world that do try to fuck people over, too. I mean, it is something that happens. But with what you're bringing up is a great point. There has to be somebody out there that's like, you know, or maybe there's just a public set of standards that are set, too. Like, hey, this is how these types of things go. This is how it should be. Because in this business,

there's so many people that do lying about numbers and this and that. And we need this and we need that. And you have to do this or we won't do this. It's like, come on. There's a lot of bullshit that can be placed into those places. And if you're a student athlete who is still going to have the schedule that you're going to have, it going to be have to be managed if i was these guys and girls i'd be worrying about merch okay merch is what you can control merch is what you own now logistics are going to be enough you're starting to go to the agency right i heard you know no i can't i that's literally that's why i can't do it is because I don't want to. The only way I think it makes any money is you have to fuck somebody over, basically.

And if somebody starts making good money, it's like I am legitimately, legitimately the type of person that's like, hey, you should be doing this yourself. Like, you should be doing this. You should go. I am legitimately that type of person now that is probably not good in this particular world if i wanted to run like a media company which i i guess i kind of yeah because if you if you once again if you could have easily been even further than you already are organically if you you have to fuck people over to do that's how people do it that's how people get up there so fast so if you have that fuck people over to do it. That's how people do it. That's how people get up there so fast.

So if you have that. That's not everybody, I don't think. Is it everybody? No, I'm not saying everybody. But the majority of the big winners. In the business world. And in the business world. Win for a reason.

And they cheat the game or they cheat the individuals that are doing it. And for some people, they say, hey, if I can make five million ten million dollars a year for rest of my life I'm cool. If you make a hundred million off of me every year. I'm cool. And that's that's my price. I'm good Yeah, so that works for both sides But if you're working you're in your slave and for however many hours or days or years And then when you're done and you want to see the real, you know You know reap you want to reap real benefits and somebody else is for the rest of their life and their kids life Then that's where it's different But if both sides are happy that's one thing but

a lot of these industries a lot of these things is one person that kind of and in this digital space i feel like you understand it a lot more than most of these other people on both sides executives or people trying to get on because it's so new so people are fucking themselves over from both sides right now so uh we're in an interesting space. And I'm dealing with it as well because I'm trying to grow. And this is the lane that I'm in now. And I'm having a lot of these same conversations and got to understand the language. Uros started coming out of the water.

And these schools started hiring them to come advise and consult the players on what they can do and what they can't do. I guess we're going to find out if these guys were right or wrong or these girls were right or wrong because I saw, I feel like there's only a few people that have gotten this whole thing right in the digital world. There's only been a few people. I've been very lucky. We've been very lucky to learn from one particular place that is very, very, very successful in this world,

and that's the Barstool folks. Then you look at like Joe Rogan's strategy in this entire thing. Bill Simmons has been able to sell a couple of companies. You know, the digital space is very fucking difficult to go and make money in. And that's why when I saw these consultants getting hired and these experts and we'll be the ones who teach and guide these players and coaches what you should expect and everything. I was like, what the fuck have you done? Like, why? How are you able to do to do this because you got to have a massive ego to be like hey listen huh you just you guys should just be paying me for my opinion like these motherfuckers better be good that consulting thing is insane i don't know how it's all going to work out to you

but i honestly don't over there no it's it's it's going to be interesting like you said it's the wild wild west it's going to be some winners some losers said, it's the wild, wild west. There's going to be some winners, some losers. Man, you can only hope for the best. But I'm glad that people have the opportunity to get it right. Some people will get it right. And I'm glad. And some people, this will be the most money they make probably in their life for a while. So they can capitalize off these years in college and these college towns. If you're the man in Morgantown or you're the man in...

It works. And I think that is maybe just my small little brain. We're going to get involved. Yeah. We're going to get involved. We're going to do that thing. But I don't see how it all plays. Long term, too, by the way, whenever whoever is the college athlete at the time,

what happens in, you know, like, I don't know. I don't see how it works. I'm excited for people to figure it out, though. I just, I'm not smart enough to do so. If someone goes on like a Johnny Manziel type run in college football, like, are they going to set a cap where it's like, hey, this dude can make, you know, basically unlimited money, but, you know, we'll kind of put a little number on it

so he can't make like $100 million? So it's independent, right? It's outside, so it is a free market. I think it's capitalism, however. That apps thing, that Web Apps America, I hope it's real. But if I'm a coach and I'm at a place, and I wouldn't do this, by the way, I don't want to be a coach, probably because to win, you have to be able to pull the trigger on

doing what i'm about to say right now whenever however you got to be able to do people will create a company i mean i created a company shirts for america.com 17 days before the 100th running of the indy 500 strictly to sponsor connor daly's car so connor had a car and enough money to run in the 100th running of the indy 500 as an indianapolis kid okay yeah 17 days before the hundredth running of the indy 500 i started shirtsforamerica.com i called phil i was like hey need to start shirtsforamerica.com he's like what is it i was like shirt company for america okay we're gonna sell it and it was 250 000 so the company cost me roughly 330 grand to get started with the shirts to be able to get them in time and everything like that. I ended up only losing like $95,000.

But with that being said, still lost. Still steep. I was able to start a company and sponsor my friend to get into 100th running of the Indy 500, which is a pretty massive ordeal. It was sold out, by the way. I wasn't able to get tickets. It was actually sold out. It was awesome. It was awesome. It crashed with Connor.

Fucking legend. Do your thing. If I was a coach, I'm doing that. I'm doing that every year. I got 100. How many scholarships do I have? Let me tell you how many companies I have. I mean, that is just... It's going to be tough.

It would be tough for me not to do that. And I've been a big proponent of this. So I don't want this to sound like I'm... I think there are some things that have to get figured out here. I think there are going to be... Or just let these guys rake in cash, let the games play.

And as long as the quality is good, I don't think anybody's going to give a single fuck in the fall. Well, and to your point, like, if you did start, if you started doing that, that would fundamentally change, like, you know, that's a huge responsibility, and then you are just, I mean, like, knowing you, like, what happens to those, however many people you would do it to, like, that's, like, a real responsibility and something that you have to,

like, dedicate a lot of time to. My whole life. Yeah, exactly. My whole life now becomes... I mean, look at this stooge right here. Yeah. I have to deal with this stooge for the rest of my life because I won't be able to not to.

That's right. You know what I mean? Until I have hair again. Hey, shout out Roman. Shout out Roman. Thank you, Roman. Joining us right now, ladies and gentlemen, Darius Butler.

Darius Butler! I think it's us. I think it's us. I think it's us, by the way. I guess our internet's spiking over here. Our internet has been on vacation for 10 days. Oh, man, they're trying to knock us out. We're talking some real shit on here. Hey, we were. You actually said both sides are getting fucked. It immediately came

after that, so I thought potentially both sides were attacking to take you down the coding thing. We covered that. Do you have anything to put on the uh the end of the name image likeness are you good i want to move on to something that you and i are oh no we're good i have a quick question for you guys reggie bush should he get the heisman back yeah what are we even doing what are we even doing yeah what are we even doing absolutely he even made the most money with this thing. In L.A.? Him and Weiner? Oh, my God. I mean, maybe Tebow down there in Jacksonville.

If you're saying he's a Jacksonville legend. You know, yeah, he got a religion thing. He got football. I think what would work for Reggie would be like his social life. People would care just as much about it. Or more people probably would care more about his social life and who he's dating, where he's at in LA,

and then the football on top of that. But, um. Oh, and then on that same vein. Oh yeah, that market, that LA market, it's just. On that same vein, yeah, give him back his Heisman.

On that same vein though, like J.J. Reddick I think would have been. Oh yeah. Oh man. Hey, J.J. Reddick would have made bank. I think there's a lot of

big money motherfuckers coming out of Duke too, right? Oh yeah, for sure. Imagine how many of those car fish Tebow would have sold. Oh, the eights. Yeah, the eight fish. Yeah, yeah. The unfinished eight.

Oh, it's the infinite fish. Yes. The in fish. The in fish. You know what we're talking about? You know what we're talking about, D-Blood? Like the fish with Jesus in the middle? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Got it. Got it. Dude, he would have been able to. Oh, yeah. With his number in the fish with a 15 right there? His merch, though, would have been fantastic. There's something going on. Zito, what's going on, dude?

What's going on? He can't hear you. What's going on, bub? Oh, we're just trying to figure out. There's a computer that's doing like 30 gigs of internet and it's bringing us Don oh so are we live right now or no we are live yeah yeah cause we're only on so let me tell you why

I had to put a halt to the conversation there to ask cause we're only on YouTube today and he said that there has been internet issues and then I saw him stand up nick stand up and jason i'm like are we even fucking lying i'm not speaking are we just speaking for nobody right now we're back baby okay we're back um okay shakari richardson Carrie Richardson. D-Butt! Listen! I put out a tweet, okay, said, listen, it ain't the dope, all right?

It ain't the vitamins that she is smoking that is making her the fastest woman on earth, okay? It's obviously her drive, her work ethic, everything. Her swag is insane. Everything about her is why she's the fastest woman. If she wants to hit a cone or a gas mask, by the way. Okay. So I added gas mask in there for a pop for myself, legally, legally, because she was in a place where it was legal to make her body feel better or life happier. Let her live. Hashtag free Chicago. Okay. So I put that, that got like 7,000 or 6,000 retweets. Okay. Not, nobody was mentioning the gas mask in there,

which kind of slipped by a couple, I think, goalies there because the gas mask, if they were reading that thing and then thought of Sha'Carri with a gas mask on, and they did not laugh, like that was a problem. But anyways, point stance. This is a joke, and a lot of folks are like, is it a rule? She should have known it was a rule. It was like, okay, you don't know what she's going through. Obviously, her mom passed away. There's a lot going on. What's she supposed to do? Get on a bunch of pills, drink. This is how she decides to handle it. And did she know the rule? Yeah, she knew the fucking rule. She's an Olympian. But of a lot of very potentially death causing things, pills, alcohol, you name it. There's a

strain of marijuana that can take care of the same shit that's going on without any of the other bullshit in there. And people say, well, you can't just compare it to the other bad shit or whatever. It's like, well, why not? Because at this point, if this is what you're demonizing and saying is terrible, a plant that can handle and take care of things for people that they haven't been able to figure out for the rest of their life. If you can still demonize that at this point, you're a fucking stooge. And if you're one of those people that she knew the rule, do it. It's like, I agree. Okay. She probably, she shouldn't have done it. We all know when we can't smoke, when we're going to get tested in the NFL, she shouldn't have done it.

But we're allowed to bitch about it still being a rule in the Olympics. Like, that is something we are very much allowed to do. Fastest woman on earth isn't allowed to compete because of a plant. That doesn't seem like a very Olympic thing for me. I don't know. I might be different. No, I mean, I was definitely, definitely salty. My first, my initial thought was like, you know,

it was damn like, you know, she tricked off this opportunity, big stage, big moment in her life. And then, you know, you immediately go to where I went to, you know, she's 21, people make mistakes. And then dig a little further. She came on a Today Show and she was talking about what she was actually going through. She found out that her biological mom had passed away she found that out from an interviewer like just random stranger told her that information so to take that information in whatever you deal with there and then at the same time you're competing for the olympic trials so um it's obviously a lot for anybody to deal with and a 20 21 year old at that um she took she took all accountability um she didn't make any excuses she said she knew what she did was wrong she still chose to do it um you know uh i did i

mean i want to run i wanted to realistically i don't think it'll happen obviously um and a lot of us we like damn it's weed it's 2021 like like where we should be well past this a lot of places still illegal a lot of places around the world is still illegal so she took accountability she'll move on she got a lot of career ahead of her but um I think we all wanted to see her you know win that goal in that 100 meter dash so definitely disappointed but um I hope she's well she's good and I'm sure she's got a fantastic career going forward I hope so and she'll remain faster than everybody for a long time. And to your point there, I very much know that the tweet that I put out there,

even adding the Olympics, that ain't going to change a goddamn thing. Unfortunately. The Olympics, that whole group of people, they don't give a fuck about it. And to Darius's point, that's going to be tested forever by the Olympics because some of the countries that are represented in the Olympics are, you know, like dictatorships. Yeah.

They'll kill you for it. I mean, that's okay, by the way. But marijuana's not. Yeah. Okay. It's all right being a dictator. That's all right. It's fine.

Send your athletes they've been letting them dope dope up for years just do whatever the hell you want put on a good show but don't you dare

fucking smoke weed in the process can you not utilize the word dope in the fashion that you used it because I was attacked for that

on the internet dope we'll call it weed dope really yeah yeah and I only do that and it's a deeper thing

because the whole Nope to Dope campaign was what started the illegalization of weed, basically, and the entire face change of that thing. So every time I say, I'm smoking dope, it's a direct reference to that dumbass

era. You know what I mean? Like that entire thing. What do you have, Diggs? You guys make great points, but I saw on the internet this week week and i can't remember who said it exactly but he or she brought up a good point like yeah it's fine if you if you're smoking dope and you're running straight lines but what if she got too high and stole a javelin and threw it into someone's heart hey hey d-butt this is an nfl guy that said this. Hey, hey, we got to talk about this. Yeah, we got to. Diggs, listen, there was no reason for the Curvy Cowboy to hop in that particular saddle.

What are you talking about? Well, there was just no reason. Hey, D-Butt, it was a conversation off air here. Absolutely ridiculous, man. I mean, wow. This guy. Yeah, that was bad bad and i think it's on us you know like you said i was a football player that said that i chose man watch i said that and i think it's on us i take that responsibility as a former player you gotta call bullshit out when

you see it yes and that was one thousand percent bullshit uh and it's just like i mean every it's a lot of shit that's legal that you can go out there, but people aren't going to show up to their event. It's blasting. Listen, fuck all that. What are you talking about? He's talking about running in a straight line. Is it okay? I mean,

so a straight line is like one of the most difficult parts of an entire intoxication test or an ebriation days or what so it's okay and what she's out there throwing the jab come on how deep did he have to like hey archo listen where do we draw the line hey where do we oh yeah is it this is your fault then this is your fault that's my god i mean you know everybody has some terrible takes said some bullshit

that is true here and there but that you know that was one hey that is very hey that is very very true i guess we shouldn't put it past him but he did have a follow-up whenever he... Uh-huh. Yeah, he did have a follow-up. Yeah, what's that, D-Buddy? He had a couple follow-ups. I didn't realize that was what we made square, dude. Hey, man. Hey, Ocho, you're cool, dude. Hey.

Thank you, Ocho. Thank you, Ocho. I mean, he's an enemy in this particular battle. Yeah. So we have to, you know what I mean? Like, this has... I apologize, Ocho an enemy in this particular battle. Yeah. So we have to, you know what I mean? Like, I apologize, Ocho. He's clearly never.

Well, how about some uncomfortable conversations with potheads, Ocho? Hey, that's a series. Hey, how about you? That's a series. I mean, what is. Presidents, doctors, everybody on there. Write that down. We should do that.

Uncomfortable conversations with potheads. We should do that. Uncomfortable conversations with five heads. We should do that. Dump that so nobody sees it. Dump that so nobody sees it. I'm worried about what locker rooms he was in, though. You know what I mean? I think he may have played with Chris Long. I'm not sure.

Chris Long kind of was fucking with him, too. But I'm sure there's probably some interest in interesting locker room. I'm sure he had some moments. I mean, there's probably people that he sat very close to that were high every day. I mean, playing football. By the way, hitting them, potentially. I don't know if it was hitting them straight lines, but I mean, they're potentially

hitting people. I'm sure those guys are probably talking on Ocho as well. If I had no cats, there's a chance those guys are like, hey, you see what fucking Ocho showed up in today? You're an absolute idiot. That's not true. Ocho is crushing it out there, as is

the Man to Man podcast host, and a guy, I think he's about to get into more stuff. I can't wait to see it. Ladies and gentlemen, Darius Butler. Thank you, D-Butt. Appreciate you, man. Appreciate you, Pat. Yeah, you too, dude. I'll talk to you soon. All right, man. Later. He, um...

I love D-Butt, dude. He's a good guy. He's a good conversation. He knows, too. What's that? Like, he's very smart with everything. Oh, I thought you were trying to bury Achi. No, no, no.

Hey, hey. What was that all about? I'm not burying Achi. What was that all about? What was that all about? What was that all about? Oh, fuck you, dude. What was that all about? What was that all about? Tony. I'm not burying, aren't you? What was that all about? What was that all what about? Oh, fuck you, too. What was that all what about?

Tony. I'm just saying. You guys are bad, dude. You're terrible people. I thought literally coming out of, you know, a vacation, a little happy, he's staying boss, I guess. Yeah, wait until AJ comes on. Man, I got some stuff for him. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now from an attic in Ohio, a man who will not be joining us, I don't think, for the rest of the week because he has a college football national champion,

the all-time leading tackler for the Green Bay Packers, and a Super Bowl champion, ladies and gentlemen, A.J. Hall. Yes! Good work, Zito. Hey, man, what is with the ocho slander? I caught the last one. What are you guys doing? You sons of bitches. Come on. guys doing? You son of a bitch.

Come on. Come on. We lost again today. We had a great argument. I watched the clip. He had a great argument about it. You're either trying to gain a positive or take away a negative. He had a good follow-up, and you guys are just over here just killing the guy.

I am not. I am not. Who? Connor? Not me. He's making the old dope argument Hey great to see you man How's the break AJ?

Did you get into anything? Did you do anything? What have you been up to man? We missed you No not a whole lot I mean we had like four days of 4th of July celebrations Because of how everything played out I guess With the date

Fireworks and parade So yeah it's good, man. It's been fun. Well, I don't know. I texted you this. Your commitment to being an adult is next level, dude. I was texting with him. He was in the middle of his four different things he had to go to. Of course.

I'm like, how the fuck do you do it? I would have zero drive to do it. Obviously, Dad of the Year, he goes, it's kids drive to do it. And he, obviously, Dad of the Year, he goes, you know, it's kids' memories or whatever. And I'm like, golly. You're Dad of the Year, though, man. You're always out and about. I never see you not doing, you're always doing something. It's amazing to me.

Well, I mean, kids are pretty active. I know you don't have any, but, yeah, there's always things going on. So, yeah, man, it's been fun. What is that? So, listen, it's actually a full story. I was getting. It's been fun. What is that? It's actually a full story. I was getting stabbed here by a green marker, I think. Do you need one, by the way, for tall help?

Hey, you need one for tall help? I was getting stabbed here in my pocket. I can't wear it in my clothes that have been recently cleaned. Why is that? Great follow-up question, AJ. Thanks for asking the detergent that we potentially move to or use caused an entire rash on my full body anywhere that touched clothes i had a rash it was my entire my entire midsection my entire here and it was for basically the first five four days of the vacation i couldn't really you know mean? It was kind of a tough thing.

Tough go, a little itchy here. So we think it's a potential change in maybe the bounce sheets or the detergent. Or maybe it's the Amazon shit that I bought and wore. Whatever the case, everything has to get cleaned at the house or I'm going to break out entirely. My full body, I might die. Have you always been one of those people that has real sensitive skin and things like that? No, that's Jay. Jay's always had this. Yeah, I'm allergic to everything.

Yeah, he got all of it. It's unbelievable. Jay, I can help you. I can help you overcome a few of them. I'm not microdosing shrooms or whatever the fuck you're doing. Jay, you are microdosing shrooms because that is something that happens and that's the first thing that came to your mind whenever you heard microdosing. Jay, are you microdosing shrooms because that is something that happens, and that's the first thing that came to your mind whenever you heard microdosing, right? Jay, you microdosing shrooms or what?

No. Dope. Oh, Jay's on. Dope. Tripping balls back there. Don't give a javelin. Jay. Hey, that's fine when you're running and moving things in a straight line.

All right? It's a good thing I was going to hit buttons that don't move, you know? Geez. Well, they are kind of moving now, but. Golly. Those are all self-help. Golly. Hey, don't, I mean, Pat, though, think about it.

Ocho's argument, if that's not just a great example of having to take another point of view on an argument, I give him credit how he is all in. Like, I believe that he believes what he is saying. He is good at TV.

Are you saying you're not? No. No. No. I wouldn't say that. You're saying that he crafted that? No. I'm not even saying it's crafted.

No chance. I'm saying he's obviously against the marijuana use in Olympic sports, but I feel like that's just how his brain works. That's what he comes to. Hey, man, I don't want to see anybody killed with a javelin either like that'd be tragic that would be a traumatizing experience all right agreed i mean maybe that is good shows i've seen it in movies i think is that where ocho got to and by the way that's why lawn darts were uh that's right banned oh you know what i. They were actually banned. Bring them back. The thing is, I actually have a set at the house.

Really? Yeah. I do a pretty good game by the way. Shocker. What's that? Have you ever opened them? Yeah, I played a couple games actually. I can't.

I mean, it's going to be fun to clean your place out when you die. We're going to get so many. Jesus Christ. That was fun. Yeah. Like most places just have like knickknacks. You don't want to clean their place out like yours. I'll be first in line. Well, I appreciate that. There's a lot of good stuff

in there and you should see my in-laws. They are actual, they go like antiquing and stuff. They go to auctions and stuff. They have even more so than me, I think, a collection of shit that is pretty awesome too kind of scrap through. But also we have to move all that shit into the house at some point probably as well.

I mean, it's going to be a lot, but I appreciate you offering up your services here on this July 5th, 2021 for when I die. That means you're going to outlive me. Shout out you. By the way, shout out. Shout out you. Way to go, man. I appreciate that. these rules will not get changed with the Olympics though I mean we're dealing

there's no way this will get changed in my tweet you know I had gas mask I feel like I was speaking for a lot of people though you know and I like to think that maybe somebody at the Olympics figured out how to speak English and maybe they all speak English at the Olympics I'm not 100% sure but they

read my tweet and they said you know what pretty good and maybe they all speak English at the Olympics. I'm not 100% sure, but they read my tweet, and they said, you know what? Pretty good. And then they said about that. I hope that happened maybe because I did at them. But this is all falling upon deaf ears. There ain't nothing ever going to change, right? I mean, that's just what we have to realize. It's international.

Think about it. Like, there's people that compete from all over the world. So, like, in Singapore, if you put a piece of gum on the ground, you get executed. I know if you bring any kind of drugs in, you can get executed too. So how would they – you think they're going to okay this? Well, you can – You can opt out. Yeah, you can make it Olympic –

The IOC? Does the IOC make the rules there? Yeah, the International Olympic Committee. That a boy, Adrian. Thank you. The IOC can just take it off the ban things and then let the country sort it out. Yeah, the International Olympic Committee. That a boy, Adrian. Thank you. The IOC can just take it off the band things and then let the country sort it out. Yeah, exactly. Let the country sort it out. Hey, if the dictator wants to do what the dictator wants to do, and we, by the way, have decided to say, yeah, dictator, you can put a team together or whatever, and you can

compete against our other teams, and that's okay. But, you know, can't they just drop it from the thing? Like, that's what the NFL should do. But is the IOC made up of people from all over the world, though? Think about it. I'm sure there's people in the IOC that aren't going to okay that because they probably come from those countries. Yeah, you're right.

They should let – you know, they shouldn't let Ocho in to talk. Get Phelps on the board. They should let Michael Phelps speak or something like that. Lochte. All right. Jack! That's no longer him, by the way. Make sure you let Michael Phelps speak or something like that. Lock T. All right. Jack! That's no longer him, by the way. That's not who he is anymore.

I really thought, and I think just strictly because we were talking about Ocho, it distracted you. I thought for sure your first words on today's show was going to be, Oh, I didn't get to hear the whole first hour. You guys talk about Rachel Nichols? I thought... What's going on with her? Okay, pal. She's a great broadcaster. What happened?

Sure, sure. Hey, for real, Ty, congrats. I know you got married. I hope it went well. Thank you, AJ. I didn't know we got arrested. Everything seems fine, so I'm glad everything was all right. Yeah. That's very nice of you. So I don't know what you just said there.

I don't know what just happened. Did you see? I woke up, and I think this part of the story should be told as well. So this Rachel Nichols conversation has been a, I guess at this point, an actual just poorly kept secret almost. A lot of people had known about this conversation that Rachel Nichols, a lot of people had heard. We had heard that there was some sort of conversation happening because there was, I don't know how the video was obtained or recorded or whatever. I don't know the ins and outs of that whole thing. That's probably going to come out in this whole thing.

I don't think this whole thing is over. Maybe. I don't know. But we had heard that there was potentially a recorded conversation. We didn't know who was talking, but we knew not good recorded conversation happened. And this is back in the bubble, I believe. Yeah. So when we heard about it, we gave like a, ooh, I wonder, ooh, I wonder.

And then we got like another update from somebody from a different source. And they're like, hey, did you hear? And they even said Rachel Nichols. I was like, oh, okay. So I came back. I'm like, okay, we're piecing this thing together. But then it disappeared for a long time. I mean, long, long, long, long time.

I completely forgot that happened rachel nichols had already trended since then for the paul pierce video of whenever the girls were getting on the flow getting on the flow hey where's rachel nichols at one of the greatest comments in the history of an ig live or of whatever she turned so i completely had forgot about that and automatically assumed like oh that must have been bullshit like that must have been a bullshit thing and then all of a sudden new york times just out of nowhere on fourth of july it's like boom here we go here's this this is a big deal hey this is a big deal over there at espn because there was another call we had i mean there is potential this is make like what

else does it you know what i mean what else does lead to? I think there's going to be more and more. And it's like, whenever I get, you know, looked at like I'm some scrub, okay, by some people. And then there's this type of real life happening. It's like, okay, what's going on over there? Like, what the fuck is the deal? And you cut off on 76 Hot Dogs on Joey Chestnut. What is going on over there? Why are you the way you are right now? You know,

it's like, this ain't good for anybody. No, it's bad. Who knows how it all plays out. But also, one of the more surprising things that I think came out before the Rachel Nichols deal was talking about what Maria Taylor, she was getting offered 5 million a year for multiple years, and she turned it down like that's what was crazy to me yeah and this seemed like um by the way that is i don't think you've heard what rachel did you hear the clip of what rachel nichols said this i would this happened at uh i think a lot of people have heard this around espn too like the amount of i assume behind the scenes shit that is going on or has been going on ESPN? There's tension all over, I feel like.

There probably is. Not just tension, but also like, hey, that's fucked up. Like really fucked up with you think and say and act in person and how it goes. And then there's probably, you know, you heard Jalen Rose go, hey, give Maria. By the way, we've gotten a chance to be around Maria a couple times for College Game Day. She is fucking cool. Hey, whenever we're talking conversation too,

she's great. I'm a big top five coolest person. Bingo. Legit, she was super cool to us. I didn't even know that she was involved in any of that, the conversation, but I would assume, just like in any place, there's probably clicks and this and I would assume, just like in any place, there's probably

clicks and this and that, and it's just like, whew. That place sounds like a nightmare right now. That place sounds like a nightmare. It makes sense. By the way, it makes sense with everything that we have encountered with ESPN. It all makes a lot of sense at this point. Are you saying that Ariel

got out just in time? Yeah, I think Ariel, he was in his basement for what, two years? Yeah, right. And he told him, don't you fucking leave. Yeah, so I'm not sure if he gets a chance to really hear the drama happening behind the scenes or whatever, but it's wild. Wild

times over there. And Clay Travis's big thing was Rachel Nichols was asked to do something, and she immediately called LeBron's advisor or whatever, LeBron's team. Clay Travis was like ESPN working literally hand-in-hand with LeBron's team. I mean, nobody liked this thing. It is a—and then the Joey Chestnut thing. Yeah.

I mean, it's just like— Last straw. Treating people like—going on behind the scenes, terrible shit. Then on camera, terrible shit. It's like, what's going on over there? It's just good that they're out in these terrible, terrible people, because at least then you don't have to deal with them. And hopefully something does change, but probably not. Rachel Nichols said she'll see people at the finals.

I wonder. I do wonder. I wonder. I do wonder. I wonder how that whole thing is going to go. And Maria Taylor is going to be, what, a free agent then? I think so, yeah. When does that happen? Where does she go, though?

She does football. She can do basketball at ESPN. She hosts. Maria can do whatever. Yeah, TNT. No, she'll be awesome. But, yeah, I guess TNT she could go. But she can't go to Fox.

What's she going to do? Is she going to take over for Aaron Andrews or Pam Oliver? No, but they do have that big noon kickoff. Yeah, college football. They have big noon over there. And the point about TNT with Barkley leaving TNT, if he's still leaving, then she could just slide in right there too. Yeah, he said he's gone. Yeah, he's done.

Hey, they've been doing a lot over there. Oh, yeah. A lot of moving. A lot of shifting. You see Steven Jackson's video? Who did he respond to? The whole, like, Maria, Rachel Nichols situation. I did not see Steven Jackson.

What happened with, that all kind of ended, too. Kwame Brown. Oh, yeah. Oh. Hey, man, there's been too much out there. Hey, let's just have a good time. Here we go. Let's have a good time. Here we go. Let's have a good time.

Last month without football until March. Oh. Here we go. Here we go. Here we go, boys. Joining us now, insider for NFL.com and the NFL Network, a man who hosts a show that is currently in hiatus and has been for some time

and for the foreseeable future, it does appear. A man who has people in every building to give him information to talk about on shows like this one and ones

on NFL Network and on NFL's digital platform. Oh, yeah. Ladies and gentlemen, Rapshit himself, Ian Rappaport. Yeah! Howdy! Hey, Rapshit, what's up? Just got off the golf course.

This guy, you golf every day, huh? Is the game getting better? Are we doing well or no? Uh-oh, I cannot hear Pat's mic. Oh, shit. No. Rapshie. Unbelievable.

Jay? I cannot hear him. Can you hear me, AJ? I can hear you. Can you hear me? Now we got you. All right, let's go. Yep, we're back.

That was on us, yeah? Yeah, we were muted. Yeah. That happens. Hey, what are you doing? You golf every day? You look like you just got off the golf course. Let's go. Yep, we're back. That was on us, yeah? Yeah, we were muted. Yeah. That happens. Hey, what do you do? You golf every day? You look like you just got off the golf course. How's the game? I played all right today.

I played all right. Brought it home with a 43 on the back. I felt pretty good about that. AJ's about to go over to Tahoe. Have you ever been invited, and would you win that thing? I have not yet been invited. It is definitely a career career goal to uh make it there cc the people that organized the event um i did cover it one time as a young reporter for

nfl network and i will never forget first of all i interviewed aj there oh how was he how was he? How was he? Pretty good? Was it good? Yeah. Very cool. The fan. I also will never forget. Aaron Rodgers gave me a one on one like off the putting green, which has like a like just starting an NFL Network reporter was a very big deal. And I've always been appreciative of that. deal and I've always been appreciative of that. Okay, well hopefully you'll get invited one day. Me too. CC them. Same people if that's how we do it. Ian, we've been gone for 10 days. I assume you haven't been doing much either. Has anything happened in the NFL and what should we look forward to this week? Anything?

I mean, I think last week generally, as a pure coincidence, the NFL tends to wrap up some important things right before the July 4th weekend holiday. They did that last week with the Washington football team investigation being wrapped up. $10 million fine for Washington football team. Dan Snyder kind of steps away for a little bit as his wife, the co-CEO, ends up taking over at some league events.

And there were some, you know, some words about that. And I think a lot of people sort of discussed the very, very toxic workplace environment there. A couple other teams got slapped on the wrist for OTAs and fractions. And what else did you miss? Oh, yeah. While I was in St. Thomas on a snorkeling boat, Ryan Ramchick got a big contract.

Oh, yeah. So that is what's going on. Congrats to you and Ryan. Yeah. Woo! Ian, so what's – okay, so from now until the first team opens camp, are we going to get any kind of news that is significant at all? Come on.

Yeah, I think you might get some because there's – I mean, this year there's like so many unresolved issues. Usually you kind of get ready for camp and it's like the franchise tag guys. Okay, like that'll be, you know, that'll be a day. I think there'll be some, probably some deals in there. We have seven, six or seven franchise tag guys who could get deals on July 15th. That's always kind of a big thing. You know, otherwise we have the Aaron Rodgers situation.

Oh, what have you heard? Not much right now, and I wouldn't expect to hear much, but like, you know, the week before camp, the couple days before camp, we need to know. AJ probably knows. Yeah, that's what I was thinking. I know he's playing golf tomorrow.

Yeah, he is playing golf tomorrow. Have you heard anything? Is that tomorrow at that Montana course, right? Yeah. Do you have any inside information on that? Like DeChambeau's caddy quit. Does that mean that Aaron has to go caddyless as well? Are they carrying the bags on their back, Ian?

Have you heard about this? So I have heard that DeChambeau and his caddy have long been at odds. Oh. Like they have. Here's a piece. You know, DeChambeau, I would say the way he has dealt with his caddy was not something that others on the tour really appreciated, just honestly. And remember the viral clip of Koepka kind of rolling his eyes? Oh, yeah.

Like, you remember that, right? As he walked by, he kind of had to stop the interview. That was from what I understand understand according to a source um that was because de chambeau was yelling at his caddy and kepka had to listen to it and he didn't like it so that's why he stopped i like that i was a holder you know in in kicking basically the caddy i've never gotten yelled at down there, but I have had a couple of stern looks that have been sent my way. I couldn't even imagine an open roast session at those golf tournaments.

Is that what DeChambeau's doing? He's saying, give me the ball. And then he's doing like the whole Shooter McGavin nine iron, you're fucking fired thing. He's doing that whole thing out there. Is that what you're hearing? That is what I'm hearing. That's got to go on the ticker. That's got to go on the ticker.

That's got to go on the ticker. I don't want to, but you said it, not me. Rarely do I bring golf scoop, but today I do have a little bit of golf scoop. This is a big scoop, by the way. It's interesting because Kepka is a very matter-of-fact dude.

I like him and I definitely root for him, but I wouldn't say he's the warmest andof-fact dude like i wouldn't i like him and i definitely root for him but i wouldn't say he's like the warmest and cuddliest guy on the tour um but i don't think he treats his caddy like that do you know uh go ahead digs and uh we know there's some knockouts for being on hard knocks and then if there's ever a time that they're not knocked out for a reason are the cowboys always the first choice and jerry's just like yes or no jerry's like yes i would say jerry's like yes this actually i thought it was kind of a good choice i mean not just because like you know i always i watch hard knocks anyway and i would because it's work but it's also it's enjoyable i thought the all or nothing stuff is enjoyable too

cowboys are going to be fun but this also makes me think that they think their team is going to be really good. Every year. I thought they were going to be in the Super Bowl last year. Oh, God. You idiot. Starting quarterback gets hurt. Sorry, pal.

Hey, you think with Dak in all last year they go to the Super Bowl? No, we had a couple other issues to clear up. All right. Okay. We, he says i mean defensive coordinator change coordinator change should help a lot this year i think um they i mean they look like a stacked team though right i mean especially if dac is as healthy as he seems like i think they're going to be really good too and you know micah parsons is not shy we're probably going to get to know him a little bit. I would be curious to know who else is sort of in the spotlight there. But, yeah, I would think once they bring it up to Jerry, he's big.

Yeah, big Micah McCarthy is going to be the spotlight of this whole thing. I mean, he in his opening press conference as Dallas Cowboys head coach, he said, I'll fucking lie to this guy. I mean, he's smashing watermelons. I mean, Micah McCarthy is going to be must-see television. Is that I mean, Mike McCarthy is going to be must-see television. Is that accurate, AJ? Is he going to be must-see TV on this thing? I mean, I'm curious about the access. I think he will

get very annoyed with the access they will want. We'll see a lot of Jerry. I think Mike will be awesome. We need Tom Pellicero on there to talk to him. Yeah, Tom's in his basement. How come you didn't get that scoop, Ian? What was that all about? Is that a Tom Pellicero specialty there, finding coaches?

That was a great feature. I would say that helped Mike land his next job. No, he don't say. He don't say. No way. You know? I think the Pellicero magic touch, I think what's going to be really interesting is which coach does Pelissero

feature this year to get a head coaching job next year? Yeah, that is true. Is Pelissero visiting the Gase household? Yeah. Every city that is going to have a head coaching position open is hoping no. Okay? They're hoping that Tom is not putting anybody over like that. It's got to be Doug Peterson.

Maybe Peterson, by the way, who we don't know what happened. Do you know what happened with it? How did that whole thing blow up so quickly? There's a statue of the guy outside the stadium. He's gone. Carson also gone. Everybody's gone. Who's staying?

What happened with Doug? Who was it? What was it, you think? I think it actually ended it would seem to me like a relationship like it's it was like you know sort of hot and heavy at the beginning but it ended as it should have when it should have because you know clearly the eagle I mean obviously he got fired so the eagles wanted to move on from him I got the sense that he really wanted to move on from them like he you know they they had discussions about

assistance who should stay who should go he wanted to promote from from them. Like he, you know, they had discussions about assistance, who should stay, who should go. He wanted to promote from within, I believe on offense and defensive, if I remember correctly. And they wanted him to hire from outside on both. And he took a really firm stance. And obviously like being a loyal head coach is a good thing, but this is just my gut on the situation. Thinking back now, like I thought he had,

I thought he had had enough. It's just a lot. Philly's a lot. When you win, it's unbelievable. You get a freaking statue. There were a lot of voices. There were a lot of discussions. I think he got tired of it. I think it ended with him being like, you're going to have to fire me.

They were like, okay, let's just do that. Ian, I appreciate you joining us, pal. Can you go split with me and Ian? Or no, he's on a different computer. Trying to find it. Yeah, because AJ just dropped out because his phone. What? What do you know?

You don't say. Yeah, Connor, go ahead. Yeah, actually, I was going to ask you, like, will Hard Knocks force Big Mike to smash Watermelons? But hopefully that just comes naturally. Are any free agents here next few weeks? Anybody going anywhere and something big? Anything like that or no?

Richard Sherman's still out there. Sherman, Melvin Ingram's out there. Geno Atkins is out there. Hey, we're cooking. We got a lot of players out there. Will Compton. Answer. K.J. Wright is out there, too.

There's like some – I mean, this – oh, A.J.'s back. Hi, A.J. This year more than like – more than any other year, there's more big-name free agents who didn't get the money they wanted and are still out there than I can ever remember. So we're going to get some of these guys signing. And every time, like any time there's a linebacker injury, it's going to be like, is KJ Wright going to sign? Any time there's a pass rush, Melvin Ingram. There's going to be a lot of focus this year on these, like,

big-name, kind of older free agents who still want legitimate money in a tough environment. I'm potentially still free agent and linebacker, by the way. Okay. AJ, what do I got to do? Square? All right. Make sure I see the numbers, right?

Hands forward. Good athletic stance. Who needs to see your numbers? Fucking everybody, dude. Flat back. This is who's coming. All right. You needs to see your numbers? Fucking everybody, dude. Flat back. This is who's coming. All right? You need to know it.

AJ, I like to, you know, unlike you with that massive cranium, you like, you know, you run around like this. I like to have my head up, you know, head up football. That's what I do. Ian, let them know I'm still available. We can't thank you enough for joining us. I'll tweet it. I can't thank you enough for joining us, dude.

If you get any, just like an inkling that something might happen, please tweet it so we have something to talk about. That'd be great. You know what I mean? Just, hey, getting, hearing rumors that blah, blah, that would be good for us. You know what I mean? Yeah.

I'll see a special focus on the next two weeks when there's really nothing. I will be thinking of you guys while I'm on the golf course. That's nice. Hopefully your game gets good enough to get invited to all. Ladies and gentlemen, Ian Rapfoot. Yeah, Ian Rapfoot! Thank you, Rap Sheet. You're the man.

What happened to you in the middle of that thing? You didn't like Ian? No, I had to clean up a little mess. I had Zeke drop me off the camera for a second. Oh, what happened? I said I knocked a bunch of stuff off the left side of my table. Oh, you don't say. Hell doped up again.

That's crazy. Luckily it was water, not code red. I'm still dealing with your fucking problems over here. You hear me? Right here. Still dealing with it. I tell you what, that figurine looks good. I'm glad you still present it.

You know, me and this guy got into it. Oh, I did see that. Oh yeah, that's why you brought it it. Oh, I did see that. Yeah, that was awesome. Oh, yeah, that's why you brought it up. Like, come on, man. Fuck you. You know, this thing was prominent position. This was in

position A. Still is. I take a lot of pride in the shit that's on here. It might look like complete shit, but it is in an organized shitty fashion. All right. When AJ moved to above the 74 barbecue, It might look like complete shit, but it is in an organized, shitty fashion. All right? When AJ moved to above the 74 barbecue, that was a big day.

That was a big day. Prestigious honor. That was a big day. That's in every camera. It's in every camera. This one right here. So I thought it was incredibly well done. I put it up there and then accidentally bumped it off.

And I didn't know it was going to break. I didn't try to break it. No, I had no idea. But there was a little inkling, oh, that thing's going up there. So you just wait. Yeah. Clock started. Yeah, I feel.

Yeah, you're right. It was dancing with death for a long time. Exactly. It's even more so incredible work by the person that put this together. The balance is impeccable. Second to none. That thing could have been a little crooked, a little shaky. I got attacked by the designer's friend, the figurine's friend,

that I deny no respect for the beautiful thing. It's like, I have more respect than you do, motherfucker. I had this thing in front of eight and a half million motherfucking people. Why don't you ever do that for your friend? No, fuck you. How about that, pal? Anyways, what's his name? He does good work, though. Rob. Rob Brown.

Thank you, Rob. Bob Brown. Bobby Brown. Bruce. I'm not mad at Bob Brown. I'm mad at his friend that was trying to come after me, but this guy does great fucking work, but it will not survive a six-foot fall. No, it will not. Did you see AJ shake his head and go,

no, when Rappaport was going, you remember when Bryson walked behind Brooks and did the eye roll? And he goes, no, I don't remember that at all. Well, then the sup, your casual sup is so cool, man. You're the coolest dude. I mean, I had to jog my memory for a second when he was talking about the Bryson and the Brooks deal. Yeah, come on. Will you fucking get back to it?

I wasn't right out there. Hey, you haven't had it. Here we go. Come on, we're back, dude. Here we go. Yeah, come on. Will you fucking get back to it? I wasn't right out there. You haven't had it. Come on, we're back, dude. Actually, you're gone. Are you gone every day this week? Tuesday all the way through? What's going on?

I'm trying to think. Possibly Wednesday I could do something. Okay, good news. So what is this? Lake Tahoe. You check in tomorrow? So Aaron's going straight from Montana to Tahoe? Yeah, I think he's going in and out of Montana the same day and he'll go to Tahoe tomorrow night after the match. And then, yeah, Wednesday they have, like, players

meetings and different things and all this stuff. Okay, so you guys have, like, a full check-in? Is there, uh, is it, like, at the pro, uh, at the, uh, you, like, walk in and there's, like, your name tag and you gotta go to, like, walk in and there's like your name tag and you got to go to like this room and a folder and all the photos and everything.

Kind of. Yeah, you got to get your passes and stuff, kind of like that. And there's like a, they say it's mandatory players meeting always on Wednesday night. Man, that'd be so intimidating, I assume, for the first time going. I honestly do believe that. Have you ever been in one of these situations? No.

It is, right? It's intimidating as fuck. When you walk in, the room is full of like 75 people, and you recognize all of them. And if you're not walking in with somebody else, you're like, all right, where do I go stay at? Just hang out in the corner and try to find someone to give me a drink? All right, I'll go fuck myself.

I'm here for the after apres golf. What are we doing here? That would be very – go ahead, Nick. Speaking of, AJ, do you know who you're paired with yet? Is it like you and Carlton, maybe like Kid Rock? Oh, is Kid Rock at this golf tournament? I do not believe he is in the field. I'd assume not.

His name is Alfonso, by the way. No, he's too good of a golfer. I will not be paired with him. We don't find out until later. Kid Rock came on speaker the other day while we were on this island, and Sam was filming something. I think it was a shark or something like that. And it was on my Pandora playlist, so I'm not selecting these things.

And literally, I'm sitting there, and I didn't even really know she was filming. But when I heard some come on, I opened my eyes, I looked over, and I saw her film, and I go, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Cannot with Bob here. Bob is not welcome right now. Bob's going to have to do a long, long conversation.

A few of them. Bob. AJ did tell me he really was hoping that he'd get partnered with Bill Cosby, his buddy. Oh, is he playing? Yeah, his buddy that just came out, yeah. AJ actually texted me during it. This is the worst show of all time. Did I? Did I? Yeah, you never text me and you text me like, dude, you see what happened

to my best friend? He's finally free. I was like, AJ, stop texting me. Alright, let's move along. Who are you golfing with? Sounds like me. Exclamation points on the text. No, actually, just emojis. Just like the... Emoji, all those.

What the hell? Fucking wild, bro. What the hell? This is the issue when we take a break. Everyone's just got it all pent up. Yeah, yeah. We don't need to hit every toxic thing that happened. I can't wait, Dolph.

I didn't want to. AJ never texted me. No, you brought it up, and he brought it up, and you brought it up. I didn't bring it up. This has just been a problem. There's no way he's in the field. He can't even see right now. How could he hit a golf ball? I mean, listen.

Cosby got out of jail somehow with, what, 700 people saying this happened. Nobody understands how it happened. He might show up at this fucking tournament with O.J. Simpson. Cosby and O.J. might be paired up at this fucking tournament with OJ Simpson. Cosby and OJ might be paired up at this goddamn tournament. We have no idea. Why is the world the way it is? We have no clue. We don't necessarily love it, but I'm happy we did today's show.

Oh, yeah. I'm happy we did today's show. Will Smith's going to be there, they said. No. Hey, Will Smith. Will Smith. Hey. Will Smith.

Exactly. This is what we can't continue to do. I hope. That'd be awesome, but yeah, Smith. No, he's not. Hey. Will Smith? Exactly. This is what we can't continue to do. I hope. That'd be awesome, but yeah, I don't think he's there. What, do you want to bring up the fact that Will Smith took yet another ricochet shot from Jada Pinkett Smith's past? No way. I missed this.

Somebody was doing an interview. On that table show? No, it wasn't an entanglement. It was another thing. Basically, Jada was asking Tupac not to beat the fuck out of Will Smith, I guess. Somebody was doing a podcast and told the story and then all of a sudden Will Smith is getting his ass beat by Tupac on the internet again.

I'm like, this guy, this guy does not deserve this at all. Fucking Will is my guy. Is that why you brought him up, Zeta? No, it's him and then I see Marky Mock. Kid Rock was on this list, so he must have got replaced. What tournament are you talking about, Z? It's a different tournament. That is a different tournament.

I apologize. What are you doing? Are you just fucking looking at random websites for him? Just celebrities? How do you get a different? It was travel.com. Google's list of celebrities. Just give me a list of celebrities. Just Google's list of celebrities. Just give me a list of celebrities.

Just Google's list of celebrities. Who do you guess is going to be here? Mark Wahlberg! Who is normally there? Is it the same crew? You guys are kind of like a set group out there, huh? No, I mean, there's like 85 people, 90 in the field. Usually they rotate out.

There's new faces every single year, but yeah, there's some staples. Who's going to win? 85 people, 90 in the field. Usually they rotate out. There's new faces every single year, but yeah, there's some staples. Who's going to win? The Curry family. So Seth is coming this year for the first time. Congrats, Seth. Good luck, buddy. And the dad.

Hey, Del Curry can strike a big golf ball. I played against him down in the Bahamas. And obviously I ended up winning. What's up, Del? But Del was a hell of a golfer. He was. Steph playing this thing too? Yeah, Steph always does the shooting of the basketball thing towards the lake

when you guys are all boozed up. Oh, Osher to La Jolla. This is dunks. Is Miles Teller in this thing? Yeah, Miles is playing. Let's go. Let's go. Joe Buck. Is he all right? I mean, Steph could win this thing. Steph gets? Yeah, Miles is playing. Let's go. Let's go. Joe Buck.

Is he all right? I mean, Steph could win this thing. Steph gets top ten, top five usually. Hey, is Miles Teller all right? Is he all right? Yeah, I think he's fine. All right. Good.

Haven't heard much. I never got a follow-up either. I just got a fucking burial internationally and then heard nothing after that. But I'm happy he's all right. So did everybody that was on the winning team get a belt? Or, sorry, a championship or a title? Yeah, belts hold up your pants, you fucking loser. Please, please.

This is a championship. I hear Sam Roberts say that all the time. I used to listen to him and Jim Norton. This is a belt that signifies, sorry, a championship. Championship. Yeah, everybody got one. So what do they, oh, so they can, but you can call a belt a belt that signifies, sorry, a championship. Yeah, everybody got one. So what do they, oh, so they can, but you can call a belt a belt, though, if it is truly holding your pants up. You know, that is an interesting little loophole that we'll have to find out when somebody makes pants that have belt loops that are the size of a fucking championship belt.

Oh, yeah. That went out of hand. Did you imagine me being this? Parachute pants? That would be awesome. The loops, like, attach right at your nips? Yeah. Right here.

Obvious shorts there. Yeah. All right, so if that ever happens, we got to remember that is the... Championship belt. That is the loophole. Yeah. All right, perfect.

No, yeah, so everybody gets one. Dell was unbelievable. He played with Chris Paul. We debuted, actually, last week, the Baja Mar Throwback Thursday. Full vlog in there. It was nice to take a trip back in time to the Bahamas. With Scotty, too. It's fun watching your videos with Scotty because Scotty has been hot in the news right now.

Okay. Never would have guessed, dude. He's got a book coming out, man. Trying to promote it. Yeah, he's trying to promote, too, and I'm not sure a lot of people are going to buy it that I thought were associated with him. One, Phil Jackson.

He's not going to buy that book. No. I don't think Phil or the Bust family at the Lakers are going to buy any of those books. But Scotty Pippen has gotten a chance to say his side of things now since obviously the last dance painted him in a particular way that I'm sure he didn't necessarily love or the people around him didn't love. So he's come out, he's a Phil Jackson's racist. He's told Dan Patrick that even follow up, double down on it, which is crazy. I don't know Phil

Jackson. I hope he's not a racist, but Scotty obviously knows him a lot better than we do. This book, though, could potentially be a burn it down situation. AJ, have you looked into this? I guess you have. You wanted to talk about it. You brought it up. No, I mean, I saw it when this happened. But it's funny, Scotty's answer, when Dan Patrick says, by saying that it was a racial move,

then you're calling Phil a racist. He says, I don't have a problem with that. That's a creative way of saying yes. Hey, you know what? This is how this is going to get out. I don't have a problem with it. This is how people are going to take this. All right.

Sounds good. He's selling books, though. Yeah. I bet this book will do pretty well. Do books do well? I think so. I mean, when you're calling Phil Jackson racist, now everyone wants to find out, like, oh, okay, then let me see if you wrote anything in there that actually credits that.

Will they ever make the Scottie Pippen book that he's releasing here into a movie? Because that would be nice for guys like me. I'd like to fucking see this. They might. The good thing about this world is people will read it, and they'll pull out the important parts, and they'll tweet it, and then we'll talk about it.

No, see, that's the issue, though, because then we've got to trust the people that are pulling that out. You know, and I had a big, Hey, I was on some deep dope. Staring into the deep ocean out there. And I started thinking about everything, you know, about the, you know, cause when you don't have TV and you're just kind of staring at the ocean, you start thinking about everything. All those little snippets that I potentially see for some stuff,

not all the stuff. No. Just some of the stuff. That has to be selected. Literally everything we see is some sort of bias by the person that is collecting it. Now, it might be not on purpose or it might be accidental or it might be planned.

But everything is, you know, it could possibly be the truth and withhold so much information that it's not an accurate depiction of what the overall context is. And that's the world we live in or whatever. But when you talk about like that Rachel Nichols clip that went around the Internet, I'm like, so there has to be more, right? Like, how come this? I didn't hear hello or goodbye there. I didn't hear any. So why was this particular part taken?

What is the other? Like, that is that just kind of happens with everything. You know, I think that's kind of. Why was she having that kind of conversation with LeBron's agent? Yeah, and I can't believe. We heard about it two times. I told you, I told the show this in the first hour, but a lot of people probably weren't listening and you weren't hearing it, Jay.

That was like a secret that wasn't, I guess since it was real, it would be considered a terribly kept secret. Oh yeah. That would be a terribly kept secret. We had heard about this a couple of times. We, at the beginning, we didn't know that it involved Maria or Rachel Nichols.

We did not know. And then like a couple of months later, passing up, I was like, Oh no, it's Rachel, Rachel Nichols. So we followed up with,

Oh, so this thing does exist. Like this thing must exist. It was all fodder around the office. Cause we'd hear it from people who were potentially, and then it disappeared for so long. It came back. It's like, Oh shit, this was real. It, so was everything we were hearing then about this conversation real? Because if that's the case, I think there's, I think there's, there's potentially more. How did it get out? I don't know. That's the last year. That's what we're that's what I'm talking about. The reason why we had heard about it is because of the way that it was, you know, so it was just I think there's a lot more to this.

There's a lot, I think. And I don't know if the New York Times article. Yeah, the New York Times article said that, like, the way it was recorded went out to a bunch of people at ESPN that was just part of their normal workflow. It wasn't planned or anything, obviously. So a bunch of people have access to it. A lot of people knew. How do they make it this long?

That makes me think, how did they knock it out before? We thought it was fake. We were just like, oh, it must have been a bullshit thing or whatever. We got to wait until we hear from Wendy. Wendy knows all. Hey, Windhorse, he actually is the – If ESPN offered Maria Taylor $5 million a year and she said, no, there has to be a deeper story to this.

They said now, though, now it's down to two to three a year. They dropped it. So they asked her to take a 50% – I guess they offered her five take a 50% I guess they offered her five. Who knows if it's true or not. I think one of the media guys those guys report on the media they said they offered her five last year whenever she said

no and now the offer is at two to three mil. Listen, I'm a fan of Maria. Big fan. I think they should give her all the jobs do what she's got to do but that conversation obviously incredibly alarming and I assume that there is a lot of other shit that's going to follow suit, potentially, I don't know, unless it was a one-time anomaly type situation. I feel like there's a chance all that's going to go on.

Let's talk about your golf game, can we, though, AJ, before you try to get toxically out of there. Can we talk about your golf game? Sure. Why not? Are you going to get on TV one time during this thing? Probably not. What the fuck? You're just going out to

Maybe. I mean, I'm going to have to chip one in from a bunker and get a hole in one or something like that. Alright, so you're never going to be on TV. Yeah, you're not going to hit a hole in one. I plan on striping it. I plan on playing well. Have you been hitting it out of your pocket? I played once. I played one round this year.

I played with Pistol and my brother for this Father's Day deal. We finally got situated. And you know what? I probably lost 12 balls off the tee, but other than that, I played pretty well. Okay. All right. That's good to know. Because in this particular tournament, you have to count all those, right?

Yes. So what I'm saying is if I straighten out that driver, the sky's the limit, man. How's your putting? You got good hands down there? Pretty bad. I mean, I got good hands around the green. My putting's pretty poor. Custom putter.

Do you do the – When it matters. Because when it matters out there in every – and you're like, okay, here we go. Two putt to get a bogey so that I get no negative points. You just want to stay away from doubles. Two putt and everything is tough out there, man. Fast. They're fast, but the greens are like, you know, there's levels to it too.

So if you're down to the bottom shelf like you know there's levels to it too so if you're down to the bottom shelf the pins up top good luck like two putting is you're really good if you do i want to let you know that i um i feel like my golf game is rapidly improving i had a putter all week on that island my wife no tv my wife brought me when it doesn't matter who cares how well you put when it doesn't matter that's cares how well you putt when it doesn't matter? That's like some old fat guy in his office putting into the little machine. Like, I'm really good now. Listen, maybe for you or for somebody else,

I want to let you know every putt I made on that island was for $20 million. Every single one. I have the ability. Okay, I learned it working with Vinatieri. I have the ability to potentially put myself learned it working with Vinatieri. I have the ability to potentially put myself in a place that it is just, you know, happy place.

Happy land? What is that? I'm able to go into a place, I think. I think I've been able to keep this, which is amazing, to be honest. That's why I'm so upset about that crossbar. But the putting, oh, every single one, pal, was for 49th place at a Champions Tour for $20 million.

Every single one on that island, dude. I think I'm getting there. I hope I get invited to this Tahoe tourney one time. You and I are partners, and we get to play one straight through eight days. Yeah, that's what I'm hoping for at some point. You'll back out at the last second like you did last time. No, no, no. Whoa, whoa.

I mean, they called your name at the players. That's how late you backed out. No. Because they always call your name for the first-time players. So, oh, here's our first-time people. Boom, boom, boom. Pat McAfee. And I'm looking around like, oh, did he make it?

Nope, he's not. I sent him a text. Couldn't do it, buddy. I was so bad at golf at that time. It doesn't matter. I put three horrible rounds together last year, and I thought, I went in, I was like, I feel good, I'm going to play great. And I never figured out how to hit a golf ball the whole tournament. People are taking it serious, though, aren't they?

Yeah, people definitely take it serious. I take it serious, believe it or not. I have fun, but I don't get mad at myself when I'm talking to third person. Oh, come on, AJ. I'm never going to do that. He's tackling. He's fixing. Did you like that good pop there that you got for tackling the fans

in the middle of the rap part? That was so corny. Us? What do you mean? We can't wait to watch you, dude. You get a chance, you know what I mean? As the fans just jogging by. We're back. Forehead to jaw. Kill you. CTE City on a golf course. Let's go, dude. I'm pumped for it.

Are you going to lift? Are you going to lift this? Are you going to strike? I don't think it's going to happen. That always happens on Thursday, the pro-am day. And I tee off early in the morning. I don't know if those guys will even be there. Don't worry.

They'll find you. We need a bird call. We need a hawk bird call. Stooge who gets tackled every year at Tahoe. Let's put on a good performance this year. Thursday, early morning tee time for the guy. Get him around 11 or 12th hole. Is that probably the right spot? 11 or 12, you'll be loose?

It's the 7th hole. The same one every year. Oh, so they actually build you like a little Oklahoma drill. They started with just real organic then all of a sudden they started a company. They had a tent next to the tee and then it became a thing, and they have a bunch of people. You have to do that.

Okay. Here we go. So you're just tackling fans into the pond all day. No, no, they're all there to support me tackling the one and same guy. Come see the human whacking guy. Is that what it is, seventh hole? Yeah, that's how it's always right. There's bleachers for this thing?

Or is there people? No, it's just seventh hole is weird. It's like back in the woods. And for whatever reason, these this group of people have always hung out there and kind of heckled people. So that's where I originally tackled them. So they're always back at that exact same spot. Oh, my God. But it's grown like their whole everything that they do is great.

It's funny to watching them. It's almost like we've watched them grow up over the years, too. I've probably been there for 10 years. So now they're getting older and they're like becoming adults as growing. It's funny, too, watching them. It's almost like we've watched them grow up over the years, too. I've probably been there for 10 years. So now they're getting older and they're becoming adults as well. It's funny. Is this why you train? Do you feel like you're an American gladiator? This is your pros versus Joes experience once a year?

Because what if the guy you tackle, what if one year he decides to become a fucking monster? He's like, you know what? He is. He is. I've said that. He's bigger than me. He's like, you know what? He is. I've said that. He's bigger than me. He's definitely probably stronger than me. So that's why originally I had him pretty good.

Because I was like, this guy, if he drops his shoulder, he's going to get me. So that's why you work out every morning at 5 a.m. It's because of this one guy. Does this guy know that? I wonder if this guy knows that. He's awesome. I like him. No, that's not why I work out

if some guy on the 7th hole at Lake Tahoe fucking gives you a boom oh my god your life would be over that would be the most devastating thing to ever happen to an AJ Hawk I'd assume right I mean I think I could laugh at it oh I don't think so

20 years later maybe that's the guy right there he's a big son of a bitch Oh, I don't think so. 20 years later, maybe. That's the guy right there? That's the dude, yeah. He's a big-sum bitch. I mean, he's waiting for you to stop bringing it one time. Is that Dave Bautista? For real?

Is that Dom Bautista? Holy shit, that's him. That's insane. So is he waiting on you, you think, to lose a step? Is that why you train so hard? I mean, I don't know what the rules are now. I don't know post-COVID or pre-COVID. This guy doesn't care. We're back.

This guy doesn't live by rules. This guy does not care about the COVID rules. He got vaccinated for this. Go ahead. He actually, right there on that arm, got right through the barbed wire, the thick one. I need to get fucking tackled by AJ Hall. I don't know what the protocols will be like through NBC and the tournament

American Century and all that. Oh, you think NBC? You're telling me that Jim Nance is going to tell you you can't fucking do it? No way. Jim Nance. You said Jim Nance? Yeah. Tony's going to get up in the booth since it's CBS.

Who's that? Mike Tirico? Mike Tirico's telling you? Oh, that's that guy we just saw? Yeah. Jeez Louise. He would look a lot different when they're on our back. Yeah, that's that guy we just saw? Yeah. Jeez Louise. It would look a lot different when they're on her back. Yeah, that's what AJ says.

You're not too tall whenever you're laying flat on your back. I'm surprised I didn't fall fat. I didn't fall on my face there. I stood forward and let it bounce. Hey, very athletic, but you are doing exactly what I said earlier. You're a big dumbass. You can draw a line. Draw a line from the crown of my head straight.

What a great man. Does he jump at all? Does he have to run a route? What is it? He just runs? Well, we've done it all different ways. That year, maybe, he had his buddy who was like a college quarterback throw him a high ball and expose his ribs.

Nice. Very nice of you. Good buddy. Very nice of you. Why don't we do like a spine buster maybe like a oh I mean

this dude probably weighs 20 pounds more than me so you work out don't you yeah so what

he's gonna like what's a spine buster I'm gonna tackle him and pick him up and twirl him around and drop him bingo you just described

a spine buster yeah surprised they don't bring out a tackling pad AJ for what like for you to tackle him onto instead of the ground Bingo. You just described it. You nailed it. Surprised they don't bring out a tackling pad, AJ. For what? For you to tackle him onto instead of the ground. No. Then you don't get the loud reverberation

through the earth. Reverberate. You see those trees, man. It's fun. It's like a magical environment. Alright, let's go to some phone calls. Hey, we can't wait for the video of you tackling him. Go get him, Hawk. That Batista-looking guy.

Hopefully old Nance lets you do it. Let's go to Zach in Florida. What's going on, Zach? Yo? Yeah, what's going on, man? Can you hear me? Yeah, you sound great, Zach. What part of Florida are you in? I live in West Palm Beach. Oh, no.

Hang on, quick. Is that where... Hang on, quick. Is that where? I believe. Gaze line. I don't know anything about hurricanes, but I believe Elsa is going towards the Gulf Coast, maybe. Zach, hold on. It's Gaze line. Zach, we have not listened.

We are so sorry. He's in the past. Zach, we have not listened. We are so sorry. I was just down in that area down there, and we were actually in that funnel. We were in the funnel of the hurricane. It was very scary, but then we talked to the locals. You guys kind of like it got downgraded to a tropical storm, and now I think it's down.

That's kind of just a part of life down there, though, isn't it, Zach? Yes. I've lived in West Palm Beach for like three years, and all I can tell is that whenever the hurricanes come, it's all lies. Like they come, and then the next day the hurricane wakes up and goes a different direction. I mean, I'm no weather guy, but this happens every year. It happened last year. I had to look after all my brother's dogs and, you know,

like my niece and stuff like that, and then the hurricane was just on the Bahamas last year. I'm just going with it. Listen, I got to do what I got to do for family, and that's what it is. Yeah. Hero, Zach, absolutely. The people, though, that I got the chance to speak to that have lived down there for their entire

lives, like, you just can't watch the news. You read the update, and then you just don't listen to the people talking about it, because they are going to get you to think that you are going to be dead and then that happens like three four or five weeks in a row and all of a sudden you just don't and then you can it could happen you see you hear that it could happen you pack up you're ready for it if you need it but i guess down there the news is very like you need to find shelter quick and then people go oh no you you nailed it to a t like the southerners

who have been here for a while will tell you like hey like the hurricanes might just turn one way or another but of course the new yorkers like me who moved down to florida for a new life get real preoccupied and paranoid oh yeah new york and west palm who you chase I live in West Palm Beach, yeah. All right, Zach, what do you want to talk about, man? Well, I initially had a question

about the Olympics, but you guys covered it. I have a very interesting take on you and AJ that I've been curious about for so long, if you guys don't mind me asking. Zach,

we'd love to have you ask a question. AJ actually had one for you, though, Zach. Do you guys want, AJ, do you want to ask your question first? No, you go, bud.

You got it. Okay, so – all right, so I've been looking at AJ and Pat's, like, measurables and trying to compare them, too. So I'm genuinely curious. And when I ask this question, I think you could preface it in three different contexts. What exactly would happen if Pat and AJ went up against each other in an Oklahoma drill? Thank you, Zach.

I'm not listening. Three different contexts. I'm not. I can't. We did it. We're gone. We're done. Shout out, Zach. At this point, with your knees, how do you think you fare? Yeah, you would kill me for sure. No, no, no. I would never in a million years stand in a face-to-face situation with A.J. Hawk on the other side.

I would like to let everybody know that that is something that I like to do a lot of things. I mean, I was swimming with the sharks last week. I was swimming with the goddamn sharks. The nurse shark? What was that? I didn't watch the goddamn sharks. The nurse shark? What was that? It was... I didn't want shark week enough. Okay, I can't dissect which zoologist shark it was, but I was told a lot of them out there.

I saw a lot of fins. Hey. Oh, yeah. A lot of this. I saw a lot of that, dude. I just want to let you know, I did a backflip right into it. I would do a lot of skydive. I've done, I say, I would never in a million years,

maybe whenever you become like wheelchair guy, which is going to happen, I think, without my knee surgery. I think I would. I hope it's from knee surgeries and not brain injury. Well, whatever the case. But if somebody had to wheel you, I would come in. Yeah. I'd come. I would respect that move.

I'd come flying over. But other than that, I would never in a million years. Just look at the head on that. Why would we ever? Unless we were filming an episode of the new American Gladiators. There's no reason. We would never do anything. Yeah, just quick heads up too.

I would, I would never, uh, I would never sign up for the show if that was potentially, well, no, we would like, you know,

the joust in the power ball or is the power ball where they just annihilate people trying to dump the balls in the bucket. So I'd like to, you, you've obviously heard, we have been, I've pitched a lot of people trying to bring it back. I think I should host an adult American gladiator.

You should host with me. Actually, we should, it was supposed to be an entire, we're people trying to bring it back. I think I should host an adult American gladiator. You should host with me, actually. It was supposed to be an entire, we're going to do it ourselves. Should that not exist right now on some streaming platform, an adult American? I mean, yeah, everybody's looking for some kind of content. That'd be awesome. Awesome. And if we get some specimens of athletes out there, and then you get these, there's a lot of people that are into fitness now, too,

that think they could probably come out there.'s gonna be some real the big ass swings too we get in there because there's the ninja warrior people there's crossfit people there's parkour people all of this like they all would do well yeah and i think we should be able to react like naturally like oh shit like i think yeah i think there should be a full thing. That's how you solve the NIL situation. Once they don't make it, they then come to the Gladiator show and compete on that. We're only going to have six, probably. And once they lose, they're out, by the way. Forever.

This is a Navy Seals type situation. We need the elite of the elite retired athlete, whatever you're doing. That'd be awesome. Because those little cylinders, that ball, you know where you have to get it in the cylinder and somebody's in there?

Imagine like some, imagine Pac-Man Jones being in there. Oh, Boogs. Oh, right, Boogs. James Harrison. James Harrison in one of those things. You're going to operate the tennis ball machine gun?

Jeez, we'll probably get that. Jousting? You want to jousting. You want to joust James Harrison up there? Under those platforms? No. That would be awesome, wouldn't it? I mean, that would be so much fun.

Not to do that. No, to watch that, yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what we're talking about. We're not signing up for that. No way. People used to get fucking bodied on that show. Oh, big time. Mike Adamley, right?

Wasn't he the host? Yeah. Yeah. I think so. He's good. With Z Adam Lee, right? Wasn't he the host? Yeah. Yeah. I think so. He was good. With Zonka, right? Yeah. I'm not that good.

But then they brought it back with Hulk Hogan and Laila Ali. Larry? Larry? How'd it do? Unfortunately, it's not around. It was around like a year, wasn't it? That's a shame. We need to get that back.

Theismann was the host with Adam Lee for a little bit. There it was. That was it. Zonka. Zonka. Yeah. Man, that show was a good one. Terrible lighting in that thing. Remember how it just was terribly lit.

When they rebooted, actually, one of the gladiators was, I think, one of AJ's favorites, former MMA fighter Gina Carano. Really? Oh, Gina. She's an actress, right? Very good. Why is she one of my favorites, Nick? Let's go to Vinny.

Hey, you guys can have your conversation elsewhere. I'm just curious. All right, well, you know. I know she's working with Ben Shapiro now, but why does that make her one of my favorites? Okay. So I don't know who this person is, but I did hear Zito in my ear goes, whoa.

I don't know what exactly we're alluding to, but shout out to you two. Fucking somehow, hundreds of miles away, in two different, three different rooms now at this point. Unbelievable work. Let's go to Vinny in Milwaukee. Hey, Bucs! Go Bucs!

Go Bucs, Vinny! Let's go Bucs! Bucs and four! Let's go, Stacks. Bucs and six. Bucs and six. Yeah, yeah, Bucs and six. Bucks and six. Yeah, yeah, bucks and six. What do you want to talk about, Vinny?

Well, I want to talk about my Bucks, of course. But first of all, I want to talk about the Euros. Shout out to Tone, my fellow Italian. Coming home, baby. Hey, it's good. Not coming home to England. It's coming back to Italy. Yeah, I don't think so, pal.

It's definitely not coming home to England. It's coming back to Italy. Yeah, I don't think so, pal. It's definitely not coming home to England. All right, Vinny, thank you for your call, Vinny. The box looks pretty good to me. Hey, it might be coming home. I will say this. We thought for a while that it left the house, said I'm going down to Mark, never came back. We thought it potentially

not only hopped on a bus, but then hopped on a boat, which then led to a plane to go elsewhere, and it was never coming home. It felt like it was never, ever, ever coming home. It felt like it was running around all around town except for

england town it felt like it was never coming home watching that team play soccer it feels like it might come home huh gumpy it might be coming home right now we got eric kane banging goals in now too i mean that is just the cherry on the top. It's coming home. Eric Kane seems to be playing well. Diggs and the Italians could, and Gumpy told me this yesterday, we could lead to a collision course of the Italians versus the English in the Euros finals.

Is that right? Absolutely. And that would be huge for Hammerdown, I assume. Diggs, you bet against the Italians the first game of this entire thing. Phantom versus Phantom is very different. You know that. We play Turkey. What, are we going to crown for beating the Ukraine? The Ukraine is

weak, okay? What about Italy? Say it to their face, Diggs. He just tried. I don't know if they're watching. He just tried. I would never, AJ. Smart. Is Italy worth a fuck? They've looked the best in the entire tournament.

Okay, here we go. Let's go. It's coming home, baby. Let's go. Either way. That was a meatball. Gump, who was England playing when I texted you afterwards? When they beat Germany or when they beat Ukraine?

Oh, no, the Germany game I watched. That was awesome because Harry Kane scored the second goal in that one, right? Yeah, and then he had two in his last one. Harry Kane's got three in the last two games. It felt good for him because I don't know much about it, but I just happened to watch it, and I'm amazed at how skilled these dudes are and how good they are. But they were talking about how Harry Kane was.

They were saying he's old, he's lost a step or something. He just hadn't scored in the tournament. He's only 30, but he had looked terrible. He had no touches or anything. But he was in the original FIFA, too. Oh, yeah. That guy, this guy, he's only 30, but he had looked terrible. He had no touches or anything. But he was in the original FIFA, too. Oh, yeah. That guy, this guy, he's been around, right? He's been a pretty popular character for a long time now.

Oh, yeah. Every Kane is somebody that, like, outside of the soccer world knows. He's been around a long time. This isn't the CONCACAF Cup we're watching? No. This is the Euros. But to that point, great transition by A.J. Hawk, legendary American football player in football transition.

There's another tournament happening right now, electrifying. It's happening down in the Central and South America. The Copa. Copa America. It is. Hey, I was watching, I think, Argentina, Uruguay, Colombia. Who else did I see? They're flying around. That style of soccer, very, very different Argentina, Uruguay, Colombia. Who else did I see? They're flying around.

That style of soccer, very, very different. There's no fans, though. What's going on? So their semis are tonight and tomorrow. We get Brazil-Argentina final in that. It was supposed to be in Argentina, but then I think there was COVID issues, so they moved it to Brazil like two weeks before the tournament. It is.

They're flying. Wait, aren't all the stars playing in this other one? No. No. No. Messi. Like, Messi, the guy who just completed

a $674 million deal. Okay? $674 million deal. He's playing in this for Argentina, and it is... It's a very different style of soccer.

I mean, they are... It's very attacking. The drama is ridiculous. Yeah ridiculous yeah i mean there is chirping the ref is chirping back there's flopping everywhere they're flying around it is attacking though it is a lot it's it's been very close it's kind of a cool thing to watch i hate to cut you off with the flopping so before like people want to get mad at them flopping are they the majority of the time that these guys flop when it's obviously fake. They're not really hurting. They grab their foot or whatever.

Are they just doing that to give the other guys, their own players a break? Like our football players, hey, man, get down. One of your D linemen lays down. Anytime a penalty happens, it's good for the soccer team. Anytime a goal is scored, it's good for the soccer team. Anytime there's a pause in action, it's good for the soccer team. The flopping, though, I have not watched soccer since I played soccer. The flopping has really become like every single so anytime there's interaction the italy guy

steal the ball the italy guy was rolling on the ground and then they put it in the net and he hopped back up right away it's almost like in hockey how anytime somebody's in front of the goalie there's a little bit of a scrum. Soccer has gotten to the point, though, especially in this Copa, which is a very fun – it is very fun to watch. It is very high-paced. They're attacking a lot. It's a cool thing. But any time there is a potential even close – there's a full fall,

roll, ref interaction, full dramatic, the whole thing. I mean, it has definitely changed the game, I think, the whole flow of it. It's smart. I mean, you has definitely changed the game, I think, the whole flow of it. It's smart. I mean, you're getting calls and rests, I guess. I think they thought VAR would stop it, but it has not helped at all. VAR stinks down in the Copa Cup, too? I thought it was just in Europe. It stunk.

It stinks everywhere. Brazil-Peru is tonight in the first semifinal. Who is it? A person that does VAR? So they started it was all, like, up top, but now the refs go and look at the screen. So the ref decides whether it's a penalty or not. Huh?

Yeah. They need to get a bigger screen. Yeah. Hey, but when the guy goes down and he starts grabbing his foot or his leg, and it's usually the wrong leg, does the ref start his watch as that's this extra time because we don't have a real clock in this game? A bad sell. Yeah, it's just kind of a thought up.

Like, it feels like two, three minutes for me. Oh, really? It's not like one guy with a clock? No, it's supposed to be just like the ref's feel. Oh my, that dude has a lot of power. Yeah, that's one ref, right? That's just on the side just doing that. No, I think it's the main ref. The main ref stops his watch.

Yeah, and the main ref is telling the, yeah. That's why they have the Britney Spears. Free Britney, by the way. Free Britney the, yeah. That's why they have the Britney Spears. Free Britney, by the way. Free Britney. Free Britney. Come on. Didn't happen, by the way.

She did not get free. No. How's that happen? What happens? How's that going? What's going on over there? I don't know enough about it. Me neither.

Let's go to Ed in Pennsylvania. Let's go to Ed. That was smart of us. I don't know. I don't know. What's going on, Ed? I mean, we just had a very mature decision that was made in this studio right off a break.

I mean, I'm very proud of us right now. Let's go. Ed, what do you want to talk about? AJ, boys, Pat, glad you guys had a good vacation. It was a long week without you guys. But I'll be quick. I'll get in. I'll get out.

With the Bucs in the finals, I really think Aaron Rodgers is going to settle his dispute with the Packers so he can go to the Bucs games and not have the fans completely just turn on him. Oh, I didn't even think about him being a— By the way, is it going to be Fitzgerald or Aaron Rodgers? That's right. Hey, who's getting an NBA ring, huh? It's going to be Aaron, it's going to be Fitz, huh?

Businessman. Got some ownership in these teams in the finals in Phoenix and in Milwaukee. Aaron, you know, he does go to those games, you know. Oh, yeah. He is there. He's an active owner. He's a fan of the Bucs. I believe he tweets about the Bucs every time they win.

I think he's an actual fan of the Bucs. What's going to happen? Is he going to go to a game, get a sweep maybe, lock it down? Yeah. What's he going to do, AJ? Don't you think if he does actually go to a game, he's going to sit courtside like he normally does? Yeah, you've got to have feet on the wood.

To Ed's point there. To Ed's point. I assume a lot of Bucs fans are going to be like, hey, this is fun, isn't it? Come on, Rog. Huh? Here we go. We're going to go out there and drink a beer right here in Wisconsin. You should ask them if he's going to be grabbing crotches when they celebrate like Palmer

was doing. So I was this close on SmackDown. Oh, really? Yeah. But it was such a big moment. So Edge, you know, Edge had that lock. It was a submission on Jimmy Uso or whatever. And I was going to say that I didn't think I could see a better submission move than Balmer's thigh grab oh and here we are with edge and that was literally like it made its way from my brain to like a motion level that was like oh

yeah to about right here oh my god this is a massive moment no way don't do that so then I had to back off so I was that close for the Balmer thigh grab oh I wish I would have done it but you what the fuck was that that was when we were on vacation what happened that that close for the Balmer thigh grab. Oh, I wish I would have done it. What the fuck was that? That was when we were on vacation. What happened? That was at the beginning of the show. He's just excited, man. Just dudes being dudes, right?

That was his go-to. Just an absolute crazy man. Hey, who are those guys? Hopefully they don't work for him. Someone's going to be like, oh, that's the boss. They have to work for him. Hey, if they don't work for him, that's even worse. That's why he's got a new owner of the Clippers.

I can't imagine that guy at a nude Bill Gates stripper pool party. Are you kidding me? Oh, my God. If he's doing that at a basketball game, what's that guy doing when there's not a camera in his face? Holy shit. That's a valid question. Pretty cool.

Oh my god. Alright. The guy's grabbing his hand like, alright, easy. By the way, why does he always go the head went straight down? Why doesn't he do like a chest or something? Hey, sometimes I guess you just lose your mind. You know what I mean?

They would then end up losing the series, which is tough. Absolute psychopath. Yeah. Yeah. That guy. This guy. Good for him, though. Good for him.

Getting that excited about anything. They're going to stink for the rest of their life. I don't think you should get that excited. I'm not saying you got to grab dongs, but I'm saying this could be that. Spacey. It could be that juice that you've just got to freak out. All right. All right, that's the show for today. This is a good roll into tomorrow.

We weren't live on Sirius today, so I have no idea what we do tomorrow. We just hop right back in. Oh, yeah. Hey, who did the show? Did anyone check on the channel? All right, thanks for bringing this up, actually. Thanks for bringing this up because we. Thanks for bringing this up. Because we did talk about this.

I talked about it. What happens? Okay, this is one of those staring out the ocean. Because I had thought about this. What happens? It was Tom Pelissero, I believe. And then at one point on Friday, I think it was Schwartz and somebody else. I don't know who it was.

What happens if somebody says something on the show that is fucking terrible? Will that say via the Pat McAfee show last week? I thought about that for a good maybe hour or two. What are they saying? And how does that work going forward? Do we just tell people, hey, just name it after them? Do we have a complaint there? It was uncomfortable.

I didn't love it. I didn't love it. And did they say, welcome to the Pat McAfee show? Yeah. That's weird. But I'm telling Pellicero. Yeah, because I feel bad for Tom. It's awkward.

It's uncomfortable. And now I'm directly associated with whatever Tom has to do. How do we change that? Can you change that? Can you just ask serious? Like, hey, can we just, you know, we're not on. Can we just switch the name real quick? It wouldn't really.

Am I being, is this that abnormal? I don't know. Is it that abnormal? No, there's people guest host all the time for people when they go out of town. But I guess because it's the Pat McAfee show and it's not called something else, like, oh, Kicks and Ricks. If it was called something like that, then your name's not. Hang time with Pat.

That's what it was called. I don't know. I just, I found that pretty, I don't know. I'm sure they did a great job, though. I mean, Tom's a Rolodex of every memo the NFL has ever put out. He's unbelievable. Who else was it? Do we know?

Well, I saw it. It was Linda Cohen, I saw. Okay, so, see, I'm 100% cool with Linda Cohen potentially driving the ship, but I wish they would let that be called the Linda Cohen Show. You know what I mean? But then people are going to be like, oh, Linda Cohen has cone has a show now oh did she kick pat off the air oh yeah i didn't even think about it's very i just pulled up my phone this is what shows like for the show right now so it says your name clearly on it and what they're talking about can we play this show um yeah i think so yeah it, I mean, technically, it's my show. My fucking name's on it. Oh, yeah.

But the whole time, people in Wisconsin, look, Wisconsin is a football state. I mean, basketball's great. It's going good. I mean, they have a nice atmosphere. I love seeing the energy at the arena. But it's about the Packers when it comes to Wisconsin. And I'm looking at, you know, this win total. I'm saying it's nine wins, two-two.

Who is this? Should I just say, you know what, take it over and think that Aaron Rodgers is going to come back for one more season? Well, what do I do, Jeff? I lean on you when it comes to some of the expertise from me if I drop a couple of coins on something like this. Oh, okay. It's been adjusted to tell you that they don't think Rodgers is going to play this season.

And I just don't see that happening. I think Rodgers plays. Him sitting out does not. He's torn up. Not sure. The Packers have made the NCAA two years in a row. Not sure. Yeah, that's Jeff Schwartz. I don't want anything else. The Packers don't have to move him.

I think people feel the Packers have – they get the most value for him this year. All right, thank you. That's a good show. All right. I feel good about it. I don't know who that guy was. And the only reason why I knew was Jeff is because he said,

Jeff, I'll ask you about this. Shout out Jeff and whoever's hosting. Shout out. Thank you, guys. Appreciate out Jeff and whoever's hosting. Thank you, guys. Appreciate you guys. All right. We should answer these, too. Noah, Wisconsin.

Hey, is that right about Wisconsin? You can get some answers. You know that, though, right? You have all these meetings and calls all the time. You could get an answer pretty quickly on the whole channel situation. Ask your agent. He would know. Yeah, but what?

See, what you just did there you you have no idea the conversations i'm a part of that that if i was to ask that question that would be a wild hey these are dumb conversations by the way i was on a dock in the middle of the fucking keys or whatever all by myself talking to somebody i was this is so stupid hey sam sam look at this dumbest life of all timeumbest life of all time. Dumbest life of all time. I appreciate it. And I have an entire rash all over my fucking butt.

This is great. Hey, Noah, is Wisconsin a football state, or are they coming around maybe because the Bucs are in the finals? I would definitely call it a football state, but I got to tell you the hype around the Bucs is real right now. It's kind of rough when you got some terrible cities out here like Milwaukee and Madison, but you know,

it is what it is. What do you want to talk about? That's what ESPN said, not me, man. Remember the Stephen A thing? Anyway. Yeah, he did say that. He did say that. He actually took an entire shot. They said the city sucks or something like that. It is not Milwaukee. It's a great city. It's a great city.

You're chugging beers over there, too. I love Milwaukee. Everybody's chugging beers. We're going to add to the ESPN slander. Anyway, I've got a couple things for you guys. First of all, I want to extend a thank you to AJ. I was at Packer training camp early in my life one year, and you were signing autographs. It was after the session.

They said you'd sign one more, so I was kind of getting jostled around in the crowd, and you actually happened to pull me to the front and sign my jersey. Let's go! Superhero! Of course he did. Thank you.

Also, Pat, I had a question for you. I also have a Roger stick. I wanted to get your thoughts. I don't know if you've seen, but Devante Adams and Derek Carr have been very, very active on social media about their, they really want to play together, their boys from college. So it seems like, especially with Rodgers being disgruntled and all the media noise every offseason about whether or not Gruden's committed to Derek Carr, to me, the answer to keep all parties happy is to trade Rodgers to the Raiders for Derek Carr, and then we could still have something to entice Adams to stay. Do you have any thoughts on that? Great question, Noah. I appreciate you. I assume him and Derek are friends.

I just also assume he's 100% okay with Aaron Rodgers remaining his quarterback. Yeah. I would think. Devonta, I mean, Derek, great player. Hey, he came back from, what, a ripped groin in prime time, what, in 10 days almost.

It was unbelievable. He's won over there. We didn't know if his future was certain in Las Vegas, especially because the way that thing popped off the bone, it looked like, whenever he was rolling right. But he's helped. They win a lot of games. But this is Aaron Rodgers we're talking about here.

I understand Devontae and Derek went to college together. They're friends. By the way, I saw Derek Carr on Hard Knocks. Looks like a cool guy. I see him. Everybody likes him. Devontae knows what's going on here. It's not like Devontae's going to hit free agency and they're going to say,

you know what, we're going to bring in Derek Carr. You want to stay? Devontae's going to go, okay, I'll take less. I'll do that. Devontae's going to go listen to who has to say something. But I do like the fact that Devontae has come out on Derek's side because normally Derek gets dogged in all these situations. Well, and it's all a moot point because Derek Carr said that, hey, guess what?

If the Raiders want to get rid of me, I'm not playing anywhere else. I'll retire a Raider. I ain't doing it. So Devontae would have to go to Las Vegas then. Yeah. And Aaron would potentially go somewhere else. Who knows? We'll see.

AJ, have you asked what's going on? Because you've had to be in contact with Aaron, right? I mean, he's had to. He knows his schedule. He knows when he's going out to Tahoe. They're rooming together for sure. What have you heard? Is there any updates on anything, or is it strictly golf talk?

I don't think there's updates on anything. from any side, really, it seems like. So are you just doing golf talk? You're like, see you on the 19th hole. Help! Is that what you are? Yeah. Telling, like, terrible old dad golf jokes. Hey, Aaron, what are we doing this week?

Hunting birdies? Hey, get your shotgun ready. Is that what you guys are doing out there? Is that the conversation you're having with him? How is it not just drift into like, what's going on? Are you good? I don't know how you do it. I have no idea how you do it.

It's huge. No, I can do that a lot easier when I, you know, if you're in person with somebody. I don't, it's not, it's not something I want to get get into over a phone call or text with people. Are you going to break him, too? Is that guy going to be pissed at you? So you're slow playing it, AJ. This is only $190 at 360. We should not break this.

It's from Foco. It's a goddamn collector's item. Foco here. A little Foco action. Yeah, don't break that one Alright I won't dude So that's his outfit That's his outfit from

The luncheon that they do every year Where he always dresses up That's definitely getting broken That was so fucked up of me I should just knock my old Mangled Ages corpse Sitting up by foot

Shattered into 20 more pieces. Beyond repair. Now I'm recognizing now passing again. Another fight with this dude on Twitter tonight. By the way, that's why I did it. That was a call back. All right,

fuck it. I will keep the head, the torso though. We'll keep the torso. Torso is sticking around with the helmet and the hair. So we still got that jumping. You pick that up. It's right by your right foot there. Don't have to. Torso is sticking around with the helmet and the hair. So we still got that jumping. You pick that up. It's right by your right foot there.

Don't crunch it. Don't step on it. Just roll it over. Hey, also, though, don't you think, like that caller said, if Aaron gets traded to the Raiders, Derek comes to the Packers, all I started to think was, oh, then Devontae's just going to go to the Raiders because they would pay him and bring him in, wouldn't they? The Raiders?

How much money do they have? I don't know. But I'm sure Aaron would be very happy if Devontae came with him wherever he would go if he left. Yeah. I got to stop. I got to get out of here. This show stinks. We got to be back tomorrow with a better one.

How about it? 100%. Tomorrow we'll do a better one. Here we go, boys. Let's go to Steven in Massachusetts, actually. Steven, what's going on? Hey, Pat. Thanks for taking my call, man. This is my guy, Steven. How you doing? Let's go, Steve. Massachusetts actually. Steven, what's going on? Hey Pat, thanks for taking my call, man. This is my guy, Steven. How you doing?

Great energy up here, Steve. What do you want to talk about? Hey man, well energy comes from you, man. If you're ever in Massachusetts, I gotta come down to see where you're at. That way I can have a fucking beer with you, man. Hey, come on. Hey, here we go.

What do you want to talk about, Steven? So I want to continue on the ESPN slander. I wanted to talk about Mike Cannonbaum. I don't know if you guys are seeing this. I think it was last week. I think it was either on Thursday or Friday. It was on the Get Up show. He was talking about the Cincinnati Bengals,

and I'm surprised that they still don't have an indoor practice facility yet. But he talked about how Justin Herbert, like the Cincinnati Bengals, they're basically going to regret taking Joe Burrow over Justin Herbert. And to me, I think that that's kind of stupid because both of them are playing pretty decent. He makes it seem like uh joe burrow like just because he got like that big injury or something that all of a sudden like like he can't play and be like a scrub and stuff thank you steven steven stay on the line mitt i'll give

pat's number to you so you guys all right i hung up on steven i am so sorry steven but what aj said is not necessarily steven it would be great to chat with you at a future time. For sure, love your energy there. In person. What's that? No, it doesn't have to happen there. You can show them how fast you can chug a beer. Hey, listen, I used to be able to do that.

I made a little drink disappear on the island there. What kind? It was a, you know, I did a couple strawberry margs, what? What? A couple Bud Lights, what? What? Hey, Pat, remember, I think last week sometime, whenever the Bucs were playing. What?

What? Remember when Takatari chugged a beer at the Bucs game, whenever that was, a week ago. Sweet taste? What? Done. Yeah. It's keyboard. Yeah, sorry. Done. What's keyboard. Yeah, sorry.

Done. What? Sorry. Will you go? What did Takatari say? No, I think I told you on the – I said on the show, Takatari texted me during the show, he said, hey, is Pat coming to the Bucs game tonight?

And I was thinking, like, why? No. Why? He was, all right, just checking. And I think he was trying to check because he did the whole beer check. He didn't want you to show up and then, you know, beat him. So he was glad you're not. Hey, that chug is retired.

That chug is retired. Although, it does look like it is about the perfect size of cup that they have over there. And it is a beer chugging appreciation city. But that thing is retired. I can't do it. Because you bring out, you know, if I do it for the box game and then I got to do it in a parking lot... For Steven in Massachusetts.

It becomes one of those things. And by the way, you know, you don't want to dance with the devil too much. If I start chugging beers again and I start tasting a little bit, I'm like, well, you know what? We're back. We are back. There's no reason to do that to what I'm doing to my body right now.

I mean, last week I treated it like complete shit, but I feel like better than I've ever felt in my entire life. I start chugging one beer. Then I'll start chugging maybe a little Tito's and soda. Then a little coconut rum and Coke. Then 151. No, I can't do that. Now you're done.

You have no pulse. You'll be a dead. You'll be in a hospital saying, what? What?1. What? No, can't do that. What? Now you're done. What? You have no pulse. What? You will be a dead. What? You'll be in a hospital saying, what? What? What? What?

What? What? What? What just happened? What? Can't do that. Yeah, so that's why I can't do it. But tell Tocatari to go ahead and unleash that thing up there. I'm sure he will be in prime form for the finals.

Yeah, because this isn't just the Bucs. What? What? This is Tocatari. What? This is Jumbotron. What? This is millions. the Bucs. What? This is Dr. Tari. What? This is Jumbotron. What? This is Millions.

What? And Millions. What? All right, I was trying to figure out how to get you to cut. That was awesome. That was a lot of fun. Let us run off a cliff. Yeah, I tried to.

I was trying my absolute best to. Guys, right, that Tana Bomb does stink. I just wanted to clarify that. Oh, see, I forgot. I was trying my absolute best to. Guys, right, Tannenbaum does think. I just wanted to clarify that. Oh, see. I forgot. I completely forgot what he said. And I don't like all the, we went on vacation. Everybody's just getting wild out here.

Yeah. All right. Everybody's just getting wild out here. Too wild. Too much. Too wild. I have a folder on my computer that's everything that Tannenbaum has ever said bad about the Steelers. So if it doesn't come true this season, I will just at him.

Okay. So, see, this is the type of stuff that happens when you're on ESPN every day and saying things, especially when you're a former general manager. Now, I will say Tannenbaum said something about Tua, I think, and then I said, well, Tannenbaum's friends with the owner of the Dolphins. So if he's saying, well, how could you, why would you take Tua at that position? I just assumed like, okay, that's messages potentially coming from the Miami Dolphins or whatever.

So I ran with it. I said it. I delivered my, the thing went, Tannenbaum then sends me a message that me and Tannenbaum, we had a little conversation, interaction. It was a good one, but it does seem that he gets a lot of people cooked up around here. And the things that he says, he pisses off everybody, I think, interaction. It was a good one. But it does seem that he gets a lot of people cooked up around here

and the things that he says. He pisses off everybody, I think, AJ. Is that his thing? Is he just trying to make everybody mad? I mean, maybe that's why he's good on TV. They want people to feel something. He's on TV. What's that?

He's on TV. See, there's a Dolphins fan. You don't necessarily love him strictly because of how he did down there, right? Yeah, he ran the team into the ground, then he tells everybody else how they should run their team. It's just kind of weird. Yeah, well, that is television too in Washington. I mean, there's a lot of people doing that on television, but the

those who can't do it teach, right? There you go. And those who can't teach. Go on. Teach Jim. Yeah, but where do we draw the line? Right? Is that how that ends? Yeah, but where do we draw the line? Right? Is that how that ends? Yeah, that's how that ends.

That's the whole one. Dick, you draw the line at Javelin, okay? Can't fucking throw Javelin. No, so Tannenbaum, is that what he is? He is a guy, though, that just does the stir up stuff? Not on purpose. No, I think he's just giving his honest opinion that stinks. What is this guy's deal? You guys, the Hammerdown boys

vary against Tannenbaum. What did Diggs do? What did Diggs do during his time off? He went to a lake. He became a lake life. Kenny Wood. Did he go to Kenny Wood?

Hey, was it Italian, Dave? No, unfortunately. Kenny Wood. Is that an amusement park? Oh, yeah. You should take your kids there. Your kids can learn something at Kenny Wood, dude.

Is it near Pittsburgh? Yeah, it's fucking near. Are you kidding me? It's in Pittsburgh. It's basically right next to all the old steel mills. You go down to Potato Patch, you get the best fries and cheese you've ever seen in your entire life. Yeah, and then you get on Steel Phantom. Phantom's Revenge will go crazy, too.

Oh, my God. What a time. And then you try to go into the log floating thing there with your lady. What? Got replaced by the steel curtain. Oh, that sounds cool. Swings, bumper cars. Oh, yeah, I got it all, dude.

Take your kids down there, especially on Italian Day. They'll learn a lot. I will. I think it was, did Diggs post some pictures of his dad on Father's Day? Diggs, I haven't seen him. Coach Diggs, that dude looks amazing. Coach Diggs always looks amazing. Thank you, Coach. Every uniform Coach Diggs puts on dude looks amazing. Coach Diggs always looks amazing. Thank you, Coach.

Every uniform Coach Diggs puts on is a perfect one. He steps foot in public, he looks impeccable. That isn't just now, by the way. That's been for decades at this point. He used to roll around in his vet. He just got done working the pipes, I think, somehow. And he's got this incredible sleeveless accessory game, bandana, wave. I mean, he's always looked like the coolest human of all time.

And he's continuing to do it. I don't know how. I have no idea how. I think it's because Diane. I think it's a team effort up there. He's a good guy. He's a chameleon. If there's a new phase, he's going to be wearing it.

Yeah, and he crushes it, by the way. He crushes it. I miss Kennywood,wood dude i can't believe you want the kennywood it's good i we me and you talked about this it's been 10 years since i've been on a roller coaster a lot changes in 10 years i felt like dog shit yeah i got seasick on a whaler out there like dog shit yeah yeah it is it is not it is not fun go the back and forth the magic carpet almost was the one that got me the The back and forth one, it was like, oh, okay, you're actually on a ship. You're a big one, and I should not be on a ship or a big one.

And you just start getting sick there. When you were younger, you just go upside down in those things. We went to Cedar Point. We were fine. You got a candy one now. Done. It felt like dog shit. Potato patch will heal you right up.

What is the potato patch? It's a dog shit. Potato patch will heal you right up. Mm-hmm. Hell yeah. What is the potato patch? It's a potato patch. Everything's pretty expensive, but it does taste good. Does Bill Gates sell down the potatoes, too, like McDonald's? Come on. Bill Gates sells potatoes to McDonald's? Oh, yeah. For their fries.

For all of them. That's the rumor. Bill Gates is in the fry business? Yeah, he's turning his focus to strictly potatoes. Really? In Idaho? I think it is in the fry business? Yeah, he's turning his focus to strictly potatoes. Really? In Idaho? I think it is in the United States. Everywhere.

That's the rumor, right? Connor, he owns so much farmland that he produces all the potatoes for McDonald's fries. I'm sure it's not true. Does he have a compound? So hold on, though. I didn't know it was built because I had heard about this. Listen, this is going to be good. This is going to be good. I had had my ear to the ground in the farming community. And this is one of be good this is going to be good i had had my ear to the ground

in the farming community okay and this is one of those things where i like to know a little bit about everything so i can have a conversation with anybody about anything the farming one is fascinating you know all the farmland is getting bought up because generations are getting passed down farms are getting passed down and the easy payout for the farm is something that every kid is basically taking at this point as opposed to having to run the whole goddamn farm which is incredibly difficult labor i mean you go as the weather goes you go as your animals go you go as the crop go you're you're up you're out you're not coming home for late and it is every day it is not like a sometimes thing and

then when harvest happens, you have to immediately prepare for afterwards. So a lot of people are opting out of running the family farm and selling it. And allegedly, there's a lot of people who might not necessarily have the best interest in heart are buying up all this land and like literally acquiring thousands and thousands of acres of America just in one clean purchase. And it's just happening over and over and over again. I have a friend, roommate, who's a farmer. Son of a bitch is a real ass farmer every single day. That's what he was doing.

And he is the generation that is getting the farm. And I see him working his ass off. And then I see like his degrees that he has and what he could potentially do and the amount of money he could get for the space, and I feel like he's like, no, I ain't fucking selling. I'm not going to be the one that ends up selling, but I think that's happening in volume. I didn't know Bill Gates was in this game.

I had heard some other potential entities were in the game, but a lot of farmland is just getting purchased up left and right, and nobody even knows. I didn't know Bill was in the game, though. Who's farming it, though? If these big corporations buy it, then they have to bring someone in to work. Do you have a lot of farms over there in Ohio? I mean, there is.

I don't. So here, there's a lot of farms here. So it's pretty, you know, I mean, there is a lot of workers that get, you know, contracted or anything like that that happens. I mean, it is. But it's crazy because it's actual land. But if you look at it as territory, you know, it's a couple different ballgames. Bill's the largest private owner of farmland in the United States of America. Yeah, that's crazy.

Look out. Everybody says you buy land, you know, and never devalue. Mm-mm. It can. It sure as hell can. That is what I believe a lot of real estate people have experienced. Doesn't go down unless it does go down. that is what I believe a lot of real estate people have experienced. But doesn't, doesn't go down unless it does go down.

And then when it does, by the way, I believe it's a massive hit for everybody except for the people who have trillions of dollars who can buy up everything, even 20 to $30,000 over asking price. Whenever people immediately put their houses up for sale, it's a wild time in the real estate world right now. This was another rabbit hole I dug deep down into because I'm potentially dabbling in some real estate.

I have been for a couple of years. You know what I mean? Looked, looked and kind of prodded. I did a couple, hated it. Now I got some other people that are asking. And then I've been kind of taught the game of like what's happening, how it's happening. It's like, oh, my God, that's fucking unbelievable. And that's happening right in front of everybody's eyes.

It's like, yeah, yeah, could be pretty big deal could be pretty big deal here like you know five years down the road ten years down the road huge deal yeah because all these houses are just getting the prices are just run up yeah and then you're talking about black rock right then didn't they like a hedge fund or whatever they come they bought tons of houses to drive up the value they're not the only ones by the way it's uh a bunch of others, I think, that are just buying up everybody. So they own every house, basically. And they own all the property. So then you're just renting, basically. And then the price can get driven up.

And then people can't keep up with their mortgages because they're being asked to pay a price that they can't. And then it's a whole. Yeah, allegedly some real shit going on. I don't know enough, by the way. No, a little bit. But I did invest. I'm sure I want to know. I did invest. I have no idea

what's going to happen. But wild time to be alive. I can't wait to be back. Three hours of Mignogna, at least. Probably four. We're back on SiriusXM. This was to, you know, kind of get everybody out of a potential haze that I was definitely in. This is 100% for me. And also because we won't be able to have our, you know,

champion of a guy from his attic where he's trying to burn it down and spill is 100% for me. And also because we won't be able to have our, you know, champion of a guy from his attic where he's trying to burn it down and spill everything on it at the same damn time. That's right. AJ Huck, we're going to miss you, buddy. I'll see what my schedule's like when I get out there. But is today a national holiday? I don't know.

Observed national holiday, yeah. Yeah, I don't know what that means. Yeah, look at it. If a national holiday falls on a weekend, then the day after is the... Observed? Yeah. Okay, so we should have a moment of silence for the observation that we observed. I'm just going to look at the date on the top of the screen and act like it's four. I'm going to think about four.

All right. We observed the shit out of it, didn't we? Yep. Hell yeah. Yeah. Four's up. Four's up. Four's up.

I looked over at Diggs, and I actually saw a 16-year-old Diggs with his helmet on. Walking by me. Walking by me with his four. Oh, Bob. You don't put them up, you got no chance of winning. That was my first experience in football, by the way. I wasn't in the football culture. I was in the soccer culture and never been in a locker room, never put on pads, and I do the game.

The first game, fourth quarter comes, everybody's goddamn hands are up, and I'm like, yeah, well, fucking right, we're doing it. Love fourth. Hey, we love it. It was like fourth quarter. I'm like, yeah, all right. right, we're doing it. Love fours. Hey, we love it. It was like fourth quarter. I'm like, yeah, alright. Let's go. Yeah, let's go. And then the team was a very passionate

fours up team that we came out with. And I literally just, I mean, I just had a full flashback to teenage digs like fours up. Pat, put your fucking four up. I'm sure AJ's a big fan of that. AJ, are you a big fours up guy? Yeah, I love being a big fours up guy? Yeah, I love being a big fours up guy when you're losing by

31 points or something. Hey, big fourth quarter. We need a plus 32 fourth quarter. Here we go. We can do it. Alright. Hey, let us know what happens with your friend.

I thought he was potentially coming on today. I thought there was a chance. I sent out a Hail Mary. I don't know. I can't wait to watch this. I'll be flying. I want to see the match, man. I do, too.

Yeah. Bryson's got no goddamn caddy. What's going on? Your report broke today. Well, none of them do. I think they're riding in their solo carts like they did with Tom and all them. All right. You think Aaron's got some shit ready for that thing, for that camera?

I don't know. Payton came with stories. I sure hope so, man. Think about it, though. I was talking, my brother was telling me this. He said, like, in a normal golf tournament, if you play bad, they're just not going to show your shots. But in this, when it's four people, they show every single one of your shots.

So if you start playing bad, like, I'm sure anyone that's not a great golfer that is inconsistent knows, like, hey, when it gets bad, sometimes it gets bad for seven, eight holes where it's like, hey, I have no clue where this is going. Let's figure this out. That's an hour and a half there, by the way, of you playing terrible on whatever and the internet watching and getting slow-mo. They'll start slow-moing. They'll start slow-moing the swing.

You see right here he's got a little – if he wants to figure this out, I mean, it's going to take a lot, but he's going to have to change his swing dramatically. Like, there's a chance it could go that way. Not for Aaron, though. No way. Not for Aaron. Aaron's a good guy out there.

He's going to chip in. He's going to be dancing. He's probably going to be ghost riding a golf cart out there. I assume Aaron's prepared for this, no doubt about it. One chip in and you're fine. I feel like Brady was off to a terrible start. Yeah, but live it was terrible. Yeah, very bad. It was bad for Tom.

Live. And then chipped in. He gets a shot. Great for Tom. That's all you remember. That's all. The moments. You don't remember the story, you remember the moments. But that's still an hour and a half of misery, potentially. You better chip in. That's being broadcast. And everything Aaron does, by the way,

is... What's that? Imagine Bryson misses a putt and Aaron just Better chip in. That's being broadcast. And everything Aaron does, by the way, is – What's that? Oh, imagine Bryson misses a putt. And Aaron just gives some look. It's like, there's Aaron again judging his teammates. Hates Bryson. Everything he does is going to be scrutinized tomorrow. And I can't wait.

To be honest, I can't wait to see how he handles it because he's a genius. And I'm excited to see how it all goes. Will you be there? You won't be in Montana, will you? I will not be there. I would have loved to have gone and watched. I don't know why they don't. It's probably just too much of a hassle to bring fans in, isn't it?

Yeah, and why? It's made for TV. There's no reason. They're not trying to get the live gate. They don't care. Were you asked to commentate or anything like that? Yeah, I said no. I turned them down.

No, I don't want to be there. That sounds awful. I was not asked to do anything involved with the match. Yeah, I said, no, I turned him down. No, I don't want to be there. That sounds awful. I was not asked to do anything involved with the match. Yeah, me neither. It's what, Barkley? Next one, though. Who else? You know, it'll be interesting to see.

You know how Bryson's trash talk is. When he comes back at Phil and Tom, I want to see if Aaron cosigns with some of Bryson's, like, his chatter. What if Aaron gives, like, a full pop for Bryson? You know, like. Or nothing. Or if he gives nothing to Bryson's stuff. Fucking swing.

Hit the ball. Hit the ball, you donkey. A little bit less of that. 500 yards. Because Phil was like, all right, we got a little bit of a wet grass. Okay, so I'm going to try to hit it into the down grass. It's a little bit moist. It should be perfect.

All right, way to go. And Tom, like, oh, nice job. Thank you, Phil. Imagine if DeChambeau is teaching up Aaron. That's what's going to be weird. Like, yeah, because Phil doing it, you feel like this is natural. But if Bryson's like, no, Aaron, you're coming way over the top. You got to come right out of your pocket like your buddy Pat.

That'd be awesome. That'd be awesome. That would be awesome. I'm excited to watch it. What time is it? Three? Five, I think. Five? I thought it was in the morning. Five Eastern. Jeez, what a son of a bitch. What's wrong with that? What do you have going on? Well, I was just hoping it'd be right after the show. You know? That'd be nice for me.

Wait till I get home after the show, do some jeeping, and then go in and sit on the couch. God, yeah. Wow. Good call. Italy, and then go in and sit on the couch. Good. Wow. Italy-Spain at three right into the match. Oh, okay. Here we go. The analysts, I believe, are Charles Barkley, Larry Fitzgerald,

Trevor Immelman, former golfer, and Cheyenne Woods. All right, here we go. Here we go. Yeah. Tiger's niece, yeah. Really? I think Immelman's the guy walking behind him that'll be, maybe he'll get to talk to him or maybe ask a few questions on the course.

Well, also, they're rigged right to the studio, right? They're rigged right to the studio. I think so. Well, where's David Faraday? I mean, I don't understand why we don't have him on the course. He's not with TNT, unfortunately. Is he? Is he a free agent now? TNT. No, he's not the course. He's not with TNT, unfortunately. Yeah, but he's free. Is he? Is he a free agent now?

TNT. No, he's not. He's on the Lifetime contract. Yeah, he should be, by the way. Yeah. He's good. I like him a lot. He always gives us a great interview. Oh, yeah.

He's awesome. Great conversation. Because TNT. Is that on TV tomorrow? Are we going to download an app? I think it's on TV. Really? Isn't that why you guys are singing TNT?

Yeah, but we just thought it was a Turner production like Bleacher Report where you had to pay-per-view it or whatever like last time. Because Turner bought Bleacher Report. Oh, yeah, the Phil and Tiger in Vegas. And that was a clusterfuck. It was. That was on clusterfuck. It was. That was on TV, or did we have to stream that? No, I think that one you had to go on the Bleacher Report app. And by the way, AJ, you and I were literally with each other

when that was happening in Texas. You actually saw me streaming it and paying for it and the whole thing stinking. We were together. We were in Texas? What part of Texas? You fucking stink. Go to hell, dude. How many parts of Texas

have we been in together, you think? We've been in Dallas together. Texas Tech Baylor, dude. Bingo. Look at you. That's where it was. Is that when the match happened that long ago? Yes. It doesn't feel like it was that long ago, man. Yeah, it was Tiger Phil, I think. The first one, yeah. Tiger Phil. There's been one since, but...

The Brady one was on TV. I'm thinking the COVID matches.. The first one, yeah. Tiger Phil. There's been one since. The Brady one was on TV. Yeah. I'm thinking the COVID matches. All the COVID matches, yeah. They've been on TV. I don't remember it being on TV. I thought you had to pay for it. You're right.

Now it's all coming back, Pat. Remember, yeah, we're getting to the party. We were talking about how there's not a lot of activity or not a lot of action early. It's definitely on TNT, too, because the finals are on tomorrow night, but that's ABC-SPN. I'm on the website right now, and it says download our apps. No, it's on TV.

It's on TNT. I might just get another way to watch it. The TNT app or the – No, it's definitely on TNT. It's got to be. It says TNT on it, but it says download our apps as well. Because I'm TNT. Hoi!

Hoi! Hoi! So Turner just buys shit, huh? Bought Bleacher Report. Yeah. Scooping everything. He got a lot of money. Well, I know as much as Bill Gates is scooping all the potatoes.

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I can breathe again As being a music thing And then I watched A whole documentary On T-Pain Oh yeah I saw that as well Yeah this is pop

You watch that Dr. Andy Who created Auto-Tune Geologist I think Or something like that Usher Terrible guy Terrible guy

Who knew 2013 Led T-Pain Into a four year depression Yeah For telling him That he fucked up music with the auto-tune. And he was like, Cher used it a long fucking time ago. Yeah, he was also sleeping. He made a stewardess wake him up to send him back to Todd.

Todd Usher on the way to BET Awards. Kind of a great move. What, Usher? Yeah. Did you watch the doc? No, but I heard we talked about it. T-Pain describing, I was sleeping. Stewardess woke me up. Hey, Usher, I want we talked about it. T-Pain describing, I was sleeping. Stewardess woke me up.

Hey, Usher, why don't you have a word? T-Pain, I want to let you know, dude, I appreciate what you did. Love you, T-Pain. You made bangers, dude. Through my college career, you made absolute fucking bangers, dude. We appreciate you. Yeah, but think of how mad Usher had to be sitting and saying, hey, go wake that son of a bitch up.

I've got to say something to him right now. Yeah, because he said first class. He said T-Pain was in first class. Was Usher sitting coach because of T-Pain's auto-tune? Is that why he was so mad, or was it just one big first-class plane? I didn't even think of that. I just figured it was one big massive plane. Usher was in row four, and T-Pain was in row one.

Maybe. Maybe. He was like, this son of a bitch is sitting ahead of me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. T-Pain said he thought he. Maybe. He was like, this son of a bitch is sitting ahead of me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. T-Pain said he thought he and Usher were friends. Yeah. He was like, I thought we were friends. And then this whole thing, he kind of fucked music up.

A little constructive criticism. Friends can't do that? Well, I think the whole world was attacking him because the auto... Now, listen, you're going to have to watch the doc, but Dr. Andy... Who cares, man? A good song is a good song. Who cares if the person can sing or not? No, well, he can sing, though.

That is the thing. And he came out on the Small Desk series the concert when he absolutely crushed it and proved the world that he could sing that was a big moment for t-pain but dr andy created auto tune okay way back in the day in like the 70s or 80s i think i forget what it was it was being used by basically every single uh studio but nobody was talking about it because it was almost like Toradol. No, it wasn't. Yeah, kind of like Toradol. More like steroids, though, for every singer.

More like spider tack on your hand. Yeah, but I think even bigger than that. I think it was like actual, like these, it was something that nobody even knew the name of. They didn't talk about it, but everybody was using it. And then when Cher used it in the one song, you go into a fool, you learn about music in that doc, but they say that he abused it

because it was something that everybody was using. He abused it. He exposed it. Now nobody has to be able to sing because of him. He ruined music, blah, blah, blah. Whatever the case, he made bangers. Everybody used it. Remember, there was the Death of Auto tune Jay-Z rapped about. I mean, everybody was trying to kill T-Pain, I guess, and he felt it.

And I want to let him know, hey, thanks for the great night. Thank you, T-Pain. Love you, T-Pain. Love you, Teddy. Thank you. His Twitch stream, by the way, remember whenever he joined? Yeah. Man, that's what's up.

He's awesome. I'm a big Teddy Payne guy. Big Teddy Payne guy. I think most people are, everyone but Usher. Have they made up? Not just Usher. It was the entire music community told him, basically. Well, they were mad that they couldn't use it anymore without the public knowing. Is that right? They were mad that they were all using it, and now the public knows exactly what was

being used, basically. And Dr. Andy made all this money off it. And T-Pain's like, I didn't fucking create this thing, man. What's everybody mad at me for? And he had to search for it, by the way, because T-Pain was independent, so he was creating his own music. He said he had to go find this thing that existed because he heard on a song somebody used something. He was like, wait a minute, that sounds like something ridiculous because it wasn't really that normal. It was a really cool dog. That was my favorite part.

What did he say, like a year and a half or something like that? He spent looking for that. It was a plug-in on a computer program. Yeah, and he said he went through every single setting on every single plug-in that he could find on a computer with one thing, basically, to see if he could find where. Because it's explained in a doc, okay? When you're hitting notes, naturally, as a human,

there's a ramp-up period whenever you go into a new note or whatever because naturally your voice box is going to do that. With the auto-tune, they have the capability mid-note to send you up to another one, and it has that great effect. So Teddy was looking for that sound or whatever, so he found every – he's talking about CDs and all these DVDs and everything. He found all these different programs and shit, And he said he went through every single one and then he found it. And he was like, got something here. Gotcha.

And then, bang, they just took off. He was, I became a big fan of his while watching that entire documentary that, you know, when you have no TVs on an island, you find that type of shit. You know what I mean? I'm pumped for it. You watched that whole thing on your phone?

Laptop and then on, you know. Airplay. Yeah, yeah. Sam brought a projector. Oh, nice. Sweet. Because she knew I was potentially going to have issues with the no TV thing, so she thought ahead, which was very, very, very cool of her.

So we could airplay on the projector. The issue was it was tough to find a spot on the wall. Sure. There was a lot of, like, you know, it was like one close room. It's not easy to run a move through That's why they're potentially going out of business You gotta be real flat Fast nine

Should have got your sheet off your bed Yeah well we did but the The walls were all The bungalow wasn't the most Necessarily Projector friendly There was a lot of Windows that's why

There was an interesting amount of people that would just show up out of nowhere, it seemed like. Oh, where did you come from? Okay, I'm happy. I'm not naked. What's going on? How are you? They're just trying to help there. But, yeah, a lot of windows.

It was tough, but the wife thought ahead, but I got to see that. It was a great documentary. I would recommend it. I think it's This Is Pop. This Is Pop, yeah. Yeah, is that what it's called? Yeah, it was good. I tried to watch some of the other ones. They would recommend it. I think it's This Is Pop. This Is Pop, yeah. Yeah, is that what it's called? Yeah, it was good. I tried to watch some of the other ones.

They're all right. There's a new Ghislaine one on the cock. So I watched that as well. I watched that as well. Is it good? I mean, does it have new info that we don't know? No, not really. I mean, the trial starts November 2021, I guess, so it's coming up.

So we're about to learn a lot more than we know currently. But it was kind of a collection of things. I was interested because, you know, Peacock was putting it out. I don't know who has connections with who. You know, that's kind of what you always have to think. I was wondering how it was going to go. I think it wasn't great for her, but it was nowhere near what the sensationalism of what I thought it was potentially going to be, but allegedly the court that's coming up.

And also Alex Jones, 10 million percent pronounced her name wrong. So Tim Dillon and Rogan and Alex Jones got on the conversation, and Tim Dillon, I think, said her name properly, by the way. Hindsight. And they were asking, how do you say it? And Alex Jones goes, it's just like a newspaper. True, like. Her dad owned a newspaper. True, by the way. Her dad, I guess, real son of a bitch, this guy. So watch the doc. I'd say

you learned some stuff. Yeah. You learned some stuff. It's like four parts. Three, I think. Yeah, but yeah. Maybe Alex Jones, though, is the only one that knows how to pronounce it correctly. Well, and then there's the thought that they potentially created this entire thing to combat Alex Jones. They say her name no less than 55 times a minute, it seems like.

And none of it's great for her. What do they say her name is? That's a ridiculous name. Ghislaine? That's Ghislaine. By the way, I think her name is Ghislaine. Yeah, you nailed it. I think it is.

Ghislaine, Ghislaine, Ghislaine. I can it is. Gislaine. Gislaine. Gislaine. I can't believe I missed out on that guy. I mean, obviously not great, but I mean, I didn't know he existed until a week and a half before he got banned from the internet. Damn shame. That was fucking unbelievable. Who is this guy? You go, nobody takes him seriously, right?

Yeah, that was the issue, I guess. People did take him serious. Still do. Yeah. It's hard to even say Ghislaine now. Right? He was trending yesterday. 15 years or something. Yeah, he was a part of a video, I think.

Yeah. I don't know. Anyways, what you guys should do is go to manscaped.com. What's so funny, AJ? I didn't know you were still in the read. Yeah, yeah. I mean, we took a couple turns. But if you're talking about Manscaped and Hawkeye Summer,

and you're talking about getting 20% off and free shipping, you have to go to manscaped.com forward slash pat and get 20% off and free shipping on the greatest performance package that has ever been made for people that are manscaping their body for this incredible summer. Isn't that right, Carl? Hell yeah! The Performance Package 4.0. body for this incredible summer. Isn't that right, Carl? Hell yeah! The

Performance Package 4.0. Lawnmower 4.0 trimmer, weed whacker, crop preserver, crop reviver, performance boxer brief, and a travel bag to hold all your goodies. First off, the new Performance Package 4.0 includes Lawnmower 4.0. This trimmer is insane, and dare we say

the goat of ball trimmers. We said it. Yeah, definitely. Is that 4.0? This is 4.0. Look at that LED light. And what you're hearing there is a 9,000 RPM motor powered 360-degree rotary dual-blade system. That's actually on the Weed Whacker, but similar technology is also used on that one right there. But the nose and ear hair trimmer provides proprietary skin safe technology, which helps prevent nicks, snags and tugs.

And there's delicate holes in the lawnmower. That's the same proprietary technology. Get a 20 percent off a free ship and go to Manscaped dot com forward slash. Pat, look how clean this. Go ahead and just go and give him a little buzz. Whoa! By the way, look at how willy-nilly he was with that thing. That's the proprietary skin tech technology.

He's doing it backwards even. Look at that. Pretty good. Keep going. Trim the edges off your wrist. Doesn't matter. No, no, no. I'll get close, though. Doesn't even matter. Look at that. Pretty good. Keep going. Trim the edges off your wrist. Doesn't matter. No, no, no. I'm getting close, though.

Doesn't even matter. Look at that. You can do that with your... You always go put it backwards? Yeah, that's right. That's weird. That's what we're saying, though. It doesn't matter how awkwardly you hold it.

Totally nilly. It has the skin-safe technology to not nick or cut you. Not normally used on the face. Definitely preferred to be on the balls. Not 100% sure if that one has been used or not, but we appreciate Connor going full circle for 20% off and free shipping.

Go to manscaped.com forward slash pat. Trim the bushes. The tree stands tall. Hell yeah. What does that mean? What does that mean? I don't know what that means. Is that in the read? Yeah, dude. you trim your bush I think I might have added it

What's that? What are you saying? I was just trying to explain what it meant The optics You ever look at a forest dude? You know a tree looks taller than one that doesn't have all the shit around it No shrubs Oh okay

That thing goes way up there doesn't it? Because if you got It only looks like it's as tall as on top of shrubs to top. Yes. Get rid of shrubs. Now, guess what? We got the entire base of that goddamn thing, too. Show your wood. Talking about trees still, right?

Yes. Good. It's great to be back. Great to be back. See you in tomorrow. What are we talking about tomorrow? We got Lane Johnson on tomorrow. Oh, nice. I know he's talking about Jalen being the man, right? I don't know, actually.

I'm going to ask him about that. He made some comments. I know he did some kind of interview where he had some high praise, I feel like. Oh, so he likes you. Okay, good news. I'll do some research tonight before he comes on. He's got an offensive line thing going on, too. We didn't get a chance to talk to anybody at the tight end or something. Son of a bitch.

We got a representative over there at the offensive line. We appreciate it, man. Looks like that tight end one was a good time. I wonder what the offensive line one's like. We'll talk to Lane tomorrow. Also, maybe somebody else. Okay. Yeah, big guest tomorrow, AJ. All right. He's got deep jobs. He is dead, I think. How dare you? Rest in peace. All right. We got no jobs. Oh, he is dead.

How dare you? Rest in peace. My bad. I meant Bill Gates. All right. Well, nice try. The potato farmer's not joining us tomorrow, but I do know that there will be big guests because we're not going to have AJ.

We appreciate you. It's been great to be back. You all are the best. Thank you for rocking with us. this. Thank you. Thank you.